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| [00:02:00] | Skiingsean: | anyone able to hint me why after updating my repo's in FC4 i still get a nothing to do when trying yum install mythtv and mythtv-suite |
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| [00:05:00] | ** xris kicks ubuntu's vim ** | |
| [00:06:00] | Skiingsean: | :/ |
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| [00:06:00] | xris: | Skiingsean: do you see it scanning the atrpms repos? |
| [00:06:00] | Skiingsean: | yup |
| [00:06:00] | Skiingsean: | hmm lemme check my .repo again |
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| [00:10:00] | Skiingsean: | hmpf i think its working now, but somehow i enabled a bad repo, yum now yell on yum update |
| [00:11:00] | rjune: | sounds like somebody used atrpms |
| [00:11:00] | Skiingsean: | argh.. Ok why would i be missing Dependency mplayer 1.0–0.lvn.0.26.pre7try2.4 .. mplayer has been installed and functioning, and does this not look like an old ver it is looking for? |
| [00:12:00] | xris: | Skiingsean: conflicting repositories |
| [00:12:00] | xris: | atrpms conflicts with pretty much everything else. |
| [00:12:00] | xris: | I only enable it to install specific mythtv-related packages |
| [00:13:00] | Skiingsean: | wonderfull,but atrpms is now disabled and still yelling.. rofl |
| [00:13:00] | Skiingsean: | hmm <crosses fingers> |
| [00:13:00] | Skiingsean: | if this works,, should i disable all repo's except atrpms to install myth? |
| [00:14:00] | simon_c: | hi. all. |
| [00:14:00] | simon_c: | Is it possable to split a myth recording and create two recordings out of it ? |
| [00:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | not with anything in myth |
| [00:15:00] | simon_c: | GreyFoxx: 'k. Thought as much. Thanks. |
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| [00:16:00] | ** simon_c was hoping to set the sky+ box to play back hours of stuff, and then sort it out later. ** | |
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| [00:18:00] | rsdvd: | Laga : I have fixed the PXE boot..............I have the image inthe wrong directory |
| [00:19:00] | laga: | rsdvd: hehe ;) |
| [00:19:00] | laga: | it's good when problems fix themselves ;) |
| [00:20:00] | rsdvd: | :-) Just can;t get the thing to actaully boot now :-( I get some X errors |
| [00:21:00] | jnunez (n=jnunez@ool-43519335.dyn.optonline.net) Quit () | |
| [00:22:00] | rsdvd: | is there anyone else in tonight who uses MiniMyth ? |
| [00:22:00] | simon_c: | rsdvd: What's minimyth ? I've nevr heard of it. |
| [00:23:00] | rsdvd: | a small linux/myth install desinged for the EPIA M10000 |
| [00:24:00] | simon_c: | Ahh. |
| [00:25:00] | simon_c: | what's the best window manager to use on an older machine, but one you can VNC into to take control of the running X session ? |
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| [00:27:00] | laga: | vnc shouldn't depend on a window manager |
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| [00:28:00] | laga: | i like fluxbox, myself. and X comes with a module called "vnc", maybe you could read up on that |
| [00:28:00] | simon_c: | Ahhh. |
| [00:29:00] | simon_c: | I'm used to the suse setup, where vnc is enabled with krfb, and manged through the "desktop sharing " (which is a PITA and somethign I disable anyway) |
| [00:29:00] | laga: | hehe |
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| [00:31:00] | mishehu: | _Nero_: you around by any chance? |
| [00:32:00] | Skiingsean: | anyone in here work extensively with FC4?? Im pretty new to Yum and ive fudged my repo's somehow.. anyone know exactly which repo's should be set to work properly or how to wipe the yum infor and start over, i aleready got the new yum.conf from fedorafaq |
| [00:32:00] | Skiingsean: | but im sure its a prob with my repos |
| [00:32:00] | mishehu: | I have a semi-working ir blaster... |
| [00:32:00] | ** laga has stuttering playback with xvmc ** | |
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| [00:35:00] | simon_c: | I supprised myself last night. Got the remote working with the "zappy" hardware in about 15 mins start to finish !! (including configuring a brand new remote config file) |
| [00:35:00] | simon_c: | I was damn supprised !! |
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| [00:35:00] | laga: | if i disable "use extra audio buffer", i get 50% idle cpu with xvmc. when enabled, it's only like 20%. i didn't know it would make such a huge difference |
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| [00:36:00] | mishehu: | hmm |
| [00:37:00] | Skiingsean: | ok with only the atrpms and fresh enabled I still get a mplayer dep error on installing mythtv, and none of my repos seem to have that dep |
| [00:37:00] | Skiingsean: | :/ |
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| [00:39:00] | mishehu: | is there any way to get mythtv to NOT drop the leading 0? whenever I put in a channel like 042, and hit enter, it drops the 0, and therefore I only change the channel to channels > 99... |
| [00:40:00] | laga: | what about 100? ;) |
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| [00:41:00] | mishehu: | laga: 100 works too. it's just anything that is two digits or less doesn't work. |
| [00:42:00] | mishehu: | I'm using the change-channels-lirc.sh script... |
| [00:42:00] | kormoc: | so why wouldn't 42 work? |
| [00:42:00] | laga: | it drops leading 0 and leaves you with 42? |
| [00:42:00] | laga: | kormoc: right. |
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| [00:43:00] | kormoc: | does the script expect a 3 digit number or something? |
| [00:44:00] | mishehu: | kormoc: this cumcast cable box only seems to like switching channels when it receives 3 digits |
| [00:45:00] | Skiingsean: | hmmm has anyone here "actually" installed myth on FC4 |
| [00:47:00] | kormoc: | mishehu, likly the best way would be to modify the script to pad the number. |
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| [00:49:00] | mishehu: | kormoc: it appears that the script SHOULD be sending it... |
| [00:49:00] | mishehu: | but I'm a shitting script writer so I could be wrong. |
| [00:50:00] | mishehu: | and the script gets called to transmit one single digit |
| [00:50:00] | mishehu: | so it gets called 3 times to switch channel to 126, for example |
| [00:50:00] | kormoc: | ahh |
| [00:50:00] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [00:51:00] | mishehu: | wonder where _Nero_ is, he might know the fix |
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| [00:58:00] | Ryushin: | Whooaaaa. Outstanding. The new SVN (7600) allows me to HD decoding using libmpeg using my little sempron 64 1600+ overlocked to 2100 mhz. Though it looks like xvmc still skips for me in the current svn. |
| [00:59:00] | Ryushin: | I'm seeing CPU usage from 70–85% right now. |
| [00:59:00] | laga: | Ryushin: hey. xvmc skips for me as well. libmpeg2 is almost fine |
| [00:59:00] | laga: | talking sdtv on a low-end machine. |
| [00:59:00] | Ryushin: | I think the new compile settings I did helped a lot too. |
| [01:00:00] | laga: | mine did the opposite. --arch=i686 doesn't do me any good, but --arch=pentium3 seems to have problems with quickdnr – me thinks, i'm still investigating |
| [01:00:00] | Ryushin: | I'll have to see if it's stable. I pushed the overclocking from 1900 mhz to 2100. Though I've read a lot of people have done 2100 without a problem. 2200 starts showing stability issues. |
| [01:00:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [01:01:00] | Ryushin: | Well, I don't know if 2200 will give me stability issues. Just what I read on the net. Though one person got his to run at 2600 perfectly stable. |
| [01:01:00] | laga: | i thought i killed my mainboard when pushing the p3 450 to 550mhz. the keyboard and the NIC started to act funny, but it was only related to the increased voltage for the chipset. |
| [01:02:00] | laga: | Ryushin: ask the crazy japanese people ;) |
| [01:02:00] | Ryushin: | I just want me HD to work. At least now I have more information to go back to the dev group and show them what I've found. I still would like xvmc to work. It chops the cpu usage in half or more. |
| [01:03:00] | laga: | yes! |
| [01:03:00] | laga: | BTW, i've found out that disabling "extra audio buffers" uses a lot less cpu. it makes playback completely unwatchable, but hey – more free cpu cycles. |
| [01:03:00] | laga: | might want to give it a try |
| [01:03:00] | Ryushin: | I just turned that on. Let me turn it back off. |
| [01:04:00] | ** laga tortures the poor p3 with 124mhz fsb ** | |
| [01:06:00] | Ryushin: | Seems to be about a 5% reduction. I can live with that. |
| [01:06:00] | Skiingsean: | anyone know what to do when installing something via yum yells about missing dep's yet when trying to install that specific dep using rpm it says aleready installed? |
| [01:07:00] | laga: | Ryushin: well, your cpu is a lot faster than mine. anyways, just wanted to let you know ;) |
| [01:09:00] | Ryushin: | laga: So much for 2100 mhz. It just locked. Time to lower it to 2000. |
| [01:09:00] | simon_c: | I'm having playback problems on one of my frontends. The color is slightly washed out, some colors have a halo effect. Is the adjust filter the best place to start ? |
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| [01:09:00] | laga: | Ryushin: my 558mhz are surprisingly stable – been so for the last 10 minutes or so ;) |
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| [01:09:00] | laga: | Ryushin: you could feed it more voltage |
| [01:10:00] | laga: | Ryushin: BTW, take a look at ticket 512 in trac, you're gonna like it probably |
| [01:10:00] | Ryushin: | My motherboard isn't that flexiable. |
| [01:11:00] | laga: | oh, sad. |
| [01:11:00] | Ryushin: | ticket 512 in the myth dev? |
| [01:11:00] | laga: | yep |
| [01:12:00] | laga: | argh, the overclocking addiction is coming back... |
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| [01:14:00] | simon_c: | can anyone sugest something for these playback problems ? |
| [01:15:00] | Agrajag-: | simon_c: is it your tv that's at fault? sounds like the contrast might need adjusting? |
| [01:15:00] | Agrajag-: | or saturation |
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| [01:15:00] | SqWaw: | HELP! |
| [01:15:00] | SqWaw: | lol |
| [01:15:00] | simon_c: | Agrajag-: No. I've tried that. I do have a VGA to TV converter box, and I think it's that that's introducing the problem. |
| [01:16:00] | simon_c: | But you can't change it's color/sat settings. |
| [01:16:00] | simon_c: | I was hoping the adjust filter would help, but it doesn't seem to have done. |
| [01:16:00] | SqWaw: | help: http://pastebin.ca/26791 |
| [01:16:00] | SqWaw: | thanks |
| [01:17:00] | simon_c: | but I don't know enough to have a clue how playing around with the numers would help |
| [01:17:00] | simon_c: | numbers |
| [01:18:00] | simon_c: | 1: luma minimum input value (int) 2: luma maximum input value (int) 3: luma gamma correction (float) 4: chroma minimum input value (int) 5: chroma maximum input value (int) 6: chroma gamma correction (float) |
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| [01:21:00] | Ryushin: | laga: What's the link for the dev bug database? |
| [01:21:00] | laga: | Ryushin: svn.mythtv.org/trac/ |
| [01:22:00] | laga: | Ryushin: nice. i had to overclock this machine to 600mhz to make xvmc work properly. that's kind of stupid o_O |
| [01:25:00] | SqWaw: | Can anyone help? |
| [01:26:00] | SqWaw: | I try to run mythfilldatabase and I get this error: |
| [01:26:00] | SqWaw: | http://pastebin.ca/26791 |
| [01:30:00] | mishehu: | woot. I got the channels changing for all known channels |
| [01:32:00] | laga: | nice |
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| [01:32:00] | Skiingsean: | anyone running myth on a tivo box or Xbox? |
| [01:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | plenty do on an xbox, but I doubt anyone does on ativo |
| [01:33:00] | Skiingsean: | im just curious as to the performance vs. a dedicated PC |
| [01:33:00] | Skiingsean: | <nod> |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | CREATE TABLE romdb ( |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | crc varchar(64) NOT NULL default '', |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | name varchar(128) NOT NULL default '', |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | description varchar(128) NOT NULL default '', |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | category varchar(128) NOT NULL default '', |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | year varchar(10) NOT NULL default '', |
| [01:35:00] | mishehu: | depends on what you want to do with the xbox... i.e. is it a frontend only, is it a frontend and a backend, or just a backend? |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | manufacturer varchar(128) NOT NULL default '', |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | country varchar(128) NOT NULL default '', |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | publisher varchar(128) NOT NULL default '', |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | platform varchar(64) NOT NULL default '', |
| [01:35:00] | ** mishehu hits GreyFoxx ** | |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | filesize int(12) default NULL, |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | flags varchar(64) NOT NULL default '', |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | sha1 varchar(128) NOT NULL default '', |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | md5 varchar(128) NOT NULL default '', |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | KEY crc (crc), |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | KEY year (year), |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | KEY name (name), |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | KEY category (category) |
| [01:35:00] | mishehu: | DROP TABLE GreyFoxx; |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | ) TYPE=MyISAM; |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | dammit |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | sorry, my kid hit the right mouse button and pasted that |
| [01:35:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [01:36:00] | AndyCap: | GreyFoxx: hazards in the unix workplace. |
| [01:36:00] | mishehu: | DROP TABLE ON_Greyfoxxs_offspring |
| [01:36:00] | laga: | rotfl |
| [01:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | AndyCap: Hazards in my living room :) |
| [01:36:00] | Skiingsean: | nishehu, i gotche and can figure out where one or combinations would hurt.. why would one not just want to run a dedicated pc (with the processing power) to do both, minus space, size, looks, sound? |
| [01:37:00] | Skiingsean: | sorry, im all kinda new to the freevo/myth applications |
| [01:37:00] | feld: | ok guys i need some help =/ |
| [01:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey feld |
| [01:37:00] | laga: | a xbox is usually frontend only |
| [01:37:00] | Skiingsean: | <nod> I can see why |
| [01:37:00] | feld: | i had errors before because i had mysql5 though i thought i didnt let that get installed |
| [01:37:00] | ** laga is very happy with the performance of his overclocked box ** | |
| [01:37:00] | laga: | i just hope it wont explode |
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| [01:37:00] | smoke_: | what woudl be the probable causes of the program guide not popping up just the background if mythfilldatabases worked? |
| [01:37:00] | smoke_: | access to mysql? ... |
| [01:37:00] | smoke_: | or thats not even related? |
| [01:37:00] | feld: | and i saw the problems with mysql5 and i tried fixing but it didnt work. |
| [01:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | laga, what in sam hell would make you decide to overclock a mythtv box? |
| [01:38:00] | feld: | so i decided to remove mysql5 and go back to 4.xx |
| [01:38:00] | laga: | SlicerDicer-: 450mhz vs 600mhz makes a big difference. |
| [01:38:00] | mishehu: | Skiingsean: well basically, the xbox makes a nice, quiet frontend box in my opinion. |
| [01:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | laga, point taken |
| [01:38:00] | Skiingsean: | <-- has had disasters in the past oc'ing.. why not just get a powerfull cpu? in the "past" i noticed that safe OC'ing never gave a large bonus on performance vs safety unless thats changed |
| [01:38:00] | laga: | SlicerDicer-: and it's still quiet as hell. |
| [01:38:00] | feld: | but now my users and crap arent working or something? how to i totally remove all the mysql crap from my box or fix it? :( |
| [01:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | feld, is it not working with 4.xx? |
| [01:38:00] | Skiingsean: | mishehu, gotche |
| [01:38:00] | feld: | SlicerDicer-: i downgraded |
| [01:38:00] | mishehu: | Skiingsean: but transcoding and other higher functions really need a higher capability machine. |
| [01:38:00] | feld: | which is a bad idea |
| [01:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | distro? |
| [01:38:00] | laga: | Skiingsean: it works for me. |
| [01:39:00] | laga: | Skiingsean: and i'm usually broke so it's not always easy for me to afford new hardware |
| [01:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what distro feld |
| [01:39:00] | mishehu: | it sucks being broke |
| [01:39:00] | feld: | gentoo |
| [01:39:00] | laga: | mishehu: yep ;) |
| [01:39:00] | Skiingsean: | laga, I understand that All Too Well!! (as im a recently graduated college student!) |
| [01:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | feld, should be rather easy to remove everything :) |
| [01:39:00] | mishehu: | leetricergentoo heh |
| [01:40:00] | feld: | i never said i riced |
| [01:40:00] | ** feld kicks mishehu :) ** | |
| [01:40:00] | laga: | Skiingsean: hehe. i'm still busy with college, kind of |
| [01:40:00] | feld: | portage rules, thats why i stay ;) |
| [01:40:00] | mishehu: | feld: I've seen that repository of patches |
| [01:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mishehu, I will have you know that Gentoo is perhaps one of the easiest distros to run mythtv on if you can withstand the compile times |
| [01:40:00] | mishehu: | even if you don't rice you rice if you run gentee |
| [01:41:00] | mishehu: | SlicerDicer-: *shrug* never touched it. been using slackware since '94 or so |
| [01:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mishehu, if you never touched it then dont judge |
| [01:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dont try to start a flamewar |
| [01:41:00] | mishehu: | it was rather easay to set up on this, and with checkinstall, I make installation packages too |
| [01:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | somebody is asking for yelp and your going on about how much of a ricer he is... perhaps help? |
| [01:41:00] | laga: | so, does xvmc with mythtv's filters, like quickdnr? |
| [01:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | anyway feld it should be pretty easy |
| [01:41:00] | mishehu: | SlicerDicer-: I'm glad you can recognize when somebody is joking. |
| [01:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | feld, did you add mysql to your package.mask for the versions so its impossible for it to upgrade |
| [01:42:00] | laga: | darn, mishehu overloaded my sarcasm detector |
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| [01:42:00] | mishehu: | I've actually had to poke thru portage's files once or twice looking for some x86_64 patches that might fix some compiletime issues I was having on slamd64 |
| [01:42:00] | kormoc: | mishehu, it's not really a joke when it's said at least one a day... |
| [01:42:00] | feld: | SlicerDicer-: i did a few mins ago |
| [01:43:00] | mishehu: | kormoc: not said by me once a day. |
| [01:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mishehu, just errks me when people say they have never used a distro but yet think they are cool and can invoke sarcasm cause they listen to other people call gentoo users ricers good call |
| [01:43:00] | mishehu: | I think I only said that once this month. |
| [01:43:00] | kormoc: | mishehu, no, but someone in here makes says it at least once a day not as a joke, hence why it's hard to tell... |
| [01:43:00] | Juski: | did anyone ever come across that mythmusic compiling problem I encountered on gentoo? not to worry.. I switched distro anyway |
| [01:43:00] | ** laga is proud to be a ricer ** | |
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| [01:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | feld, ok cool well that will prevent that you should be able to emerge -C mysql I am trying to think of where the databases are stored :) |
| [01:44:00] | mishehu: | kormoc: well, I'm not aorund here enouguh to know that it's now an unfunny joke. heh. |
| [01:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but you may want to back them up before removal |
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| [01:44:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer-, feld, /var/lib/mysql |
| [01:44:00] | mishehu: | feld: what's the matter with mysql5? it was marked as production ready now... |
| [01:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, there you go :) |
| [01:44:00] | mishehu: | though I've not installed it on any of my systems yet. |
| [01:44:00] | feld: | mishehu: it wont work with mythtv |
| [01:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok my comptuer has gone beserk brb |
| [01:44:00] | kormoc: | feld, what's the issue? |
| [01:44:00] | feld: | mythtv uses a repeat column that conflicts with a new feature of mysql5 |
| [01:44:00] | mishehu: | feld: you sure? maybe it's just the qt mysql module? |
| [01:44:00] | mishehu: | ah |
| [01:45:00] | feld: | u have to hack at some crap to make it work |
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| [01:45:00] | feld: | didnt work for me. |
| [01:45:00] | kormoc: | feld, easiest way to downgrade would be to do |
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| [01:45:00] | mishehu: | what repeat column is that? I'm curious. |
| [01:45:00] | feld: | mishehu: i'll show u when i'm done with this crap |
| [01:45:00] | kormoc: | echo ">=dev-db/mysql-5.0" >> /etc/portage/package.mask |
| [01:45:00] | feld: | kormoc: continue |
| [01:45:00] | kormoc: | emerge mysql |
| [01:45:00] | feld: | kormoc: i did |
| [01:45:00] | kormoc: | and it'll downgrade |
| [01:45:00] | SlicerDicer: | kormoc: he already has |
| [01:45:00] | feld: | but now i have a bigger problem |
| [01:45:00] | kormoc: | ooh? |
| [01:46:00] | mishehu: | feld: going to go back to 4.1.x? |
| [01:46:00] | SlicerDicer: | yea he downgraded |
| [01:46:00] | kormoc: | can't read the db can it? |
| [01:46:00] | feld: | the problem now is that mysql is fscked up |
| [01:46:00] | feld: | yup |
| [01:46:00] | feld: | cant read shit |
| [01:46:00] | kormoc: | okay, the easiest way to do it would be to upgrade to 5.0 |
| [01:46:00] | feld: | mysql-administrator gui errors and cant read users |
| [01:46:00] | kormoc: | run mysqldump |
| [01:46:00] | mishehu: | isn't it possible to run multiple versions of mysql on teh same box? |
| [01:46:00] | kormoc: | dump it all to a mythtv.sql |
| [01:46:00] | kormoc: | then downgrade to 4.1.x |
| [01:46:00] | kormoc: | and import it back in |
| [01:47:00] | SlicerDicer: | kormoc: the mastah comes to the rescue :) |
| [01:47:00] | kormoc: | mishehu, yeah, but not purely portage |
| [01:47:00] | feld: | awwwwwwwww |
| [01:47:00] | feld: | :( |
| [01:47:00] | feld: | ok... |
| [01:47:00] | Skiingsean: | am i going to have a problem installing myth if i only have ONE Video card an ATI Radeon 9800 (drivers are installed correctly) no capture card atm and will be using the radeon for output? |
| [01:48:00] | mishehu: | kormoc: portage doesn't allow for installing multiple versions of software? |
| [01:48:00] | feld: | mishehu: yes but its something nobody sane does |
| [01:48:00] | mishehu: | how does it handle the different db libraries out there? |
| [01:48:00] | SlicerDicer: | mishehu: sure it does but as feld just said aye |
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| [01:48:00] | mishehu: | feld: does it bork it up pretty bad if you do that? such as dependency tracking? |
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| [01:49:00] | feld: | mishehu: i dont know what it does, i'm just following directions ;) |
| [01:49:00] | mishehu: | ok heh |
| [01:49:00] | kormoc: | mishehu, it can if the ebuild is designed to do that. Realistically, you don't want to have two different mysql versions dealing with the dbs at the same time, so it limits it to one version |
| [01:50:00] | kormoc: | you can say, change the root it insatlls to something like /tmp/fakeroot and install say a new version into that, which you could do, but it's difficult to walk someone though that |
| [01:50:00] | mishehu: | Skiingsean: mythtv itself is rather limited without a capture card, but I do use mythtfrontend on a couple machines that have no capture card. I only have one backend with a capture card. |
| [01:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mishehu, I have had multiple versions of something on gentoo it can go absolutely crazy you have to do it in weird ways to make it work from what I have seen |
| [01:50:00] | feld: | i just need this god damn database to work and i have a 100% functional mythtv box |
| [01:50:00] | mishehu: | kormoc: naturally, usually people like to optimize one db engine at a time on a given installation. |
| [01:51:00] | Skiingsean: | mishehu, good thats what i was hoping for :) |
| [01:51:00] | laga: | i believe this functionality is called "slots" |
| [01:51:00] | mishehu: | which is why I never messed with postgres even though opegroupware requires it... thus I never touched opengroupware. |
| [01:52:00] | kormoc: | laga, indeed it is |
| [01:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, you ever done multiple versions of any given package on gentoo? |
| [01:53:00] | kormoc: | yeah, xorg, kde, xfce, apache, php |
| [01:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [01:53:00] | feld: | hey mishehu kormoc http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-393803-h . . . v+mysql.html |
| [01:53:00] | feld: | if u can tell me how to fix that like that guy did i'd be much obliged |
| [01:53:00] | SqWaw: | # Misc Features |
| [01:53:00] | SqWaw: | DVD playback no |
| [01:53:00] | SqWaw: | How can I make it compile w/ DVD playback support? |
| [01:53:00] | SqWaw: | (this is from ./configure) |
| [01:54:00] | Skiingsean: | Is there a section that teaches me about implimenting avi's mpegs and divx that I currently have stored elsewhere into MythTV |
| [01:54:00] | kormoc: | feld, can you wait a day or two? |
| [01:54:00] | feld: | no |
| [01:54:00] | feld: | i need it for recording over the weekend |
| [01:54:00] | feld: | =/ |
| [01:54:00] | feld: | as a test bed for the setup |
| [01:54:00] | feld: | because i'm gone all weekend |
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| [01:55:00] | kormoc: | feld, heh, cause cardoe would likly have it fixed and in portage by friday if he's around |
| [01:55:00] | feld: | damnit :( |
| [01:55:00] | feld: | i leave tomorrow night |
| [01:55:00] | kormoc: | I'll see what I can do |
| [01:56:00] | feld: | ty |
| [01:57:00] | laga: | good night |
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| [02:00:00] | feld: | kormoc: maybe it will work for me if u can just tell me what command i need to give the mythtv user in mysql the CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES permission |
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| [02:02:00] | kormoc: | GRANT CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES ON `mythconverg` . * TO 'mythtv'@'%'; |
| [02:02:00] | SqWaw: | Can anyone help? When I try to run mythfilldatabase, I get this error: http://pastebin.ca/26791 |
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| [02:04:00] | Agrajag-: | SqWaw: you dont have qt mysql libs |
| [02:04:00] | kormoc: | feld, http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110584 |
| [02:04:00] | SqWaw: | Agrajag-, Well mythtv used to work.. So I must have them |
| [02:04:00] | Agrajag-: | what distro? |
| [02:04:00] | SqWaw: | Gentoo |
| [02:05:00] | SqWaw: | [ebuild R ] x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r8 |
| [02:05:00] | SqWaw: | R means already emerged |
| [02:05:00] | Agrajag-: | ok that's nice, but that's not qt mysql stuff, that's just qt |
| [02:05:00] | kormoc: | SqWaw, you need qt built with the mysql use flag |
| [02:06:00] | kormoc: | echo "x11-libs/qt +mysql" >> /etc/portage/package.use |
| [02:06:00] | kormoc: | then reemerge qt |
| [02:06:00] | kormoc: | and then it should work |
| [02:06:00] | SqWaw: | Okay... |
| [02:07:00] | Agrajag-: | haha. then do you get to recompile qt? |
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| [02:07:00] | kormoc: | emerge qt will recompile qt |
| [02:08:00] | SqWaw: | yep |
| [02:08:00] | SqWaw: | emerge unmerge gt | emerge qt |
| [02:08:00] | kormoc: | uhh |
| [02:08:00] | kormoc: | no need to unemerge it first, it will deal with that |
| [02:08:00] | SqWaw: | oopsies |
| [02:08:00] | SqWaw: | oh well |
| [02:08:00] | Agrajag-: | haha, the wonders of gentoo |
| [02:08:00] | kormoc: | and why pipe the unemerge to emerge, seems a waste to me :P |
| [02:08:00] | SqWaw: | does it matter? |
| [02:09:00] | SqWaw: | hey man! |
| [02:09:00] | SqWaw: | <-- linux semi-noob |
| [02:09:00] | kormoc: | it doesn't matter much, it's just odd, tis all :P |
| [02:09:00] | feld: | kormoc: do you know the command to give me the permission i'm missing for the database? |
| [02:09:00] | Agrajag-: | compiling everything seems like a waste to me too :P |
| [02:09:00] | kormoc: | feld, <kormoc> GRANT CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES ON `mythconverg` . * TO 'mythtv'@'%'; |
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| [02:11:00] | feld: | sorry dude i didnt see that! |
| [02:11:00] | feld: | another question — what instances of that file do i change =/ the source file. |
| [02:11:00] | feld: | curr_schedule.repeat = (pxmlatts.value("repeat") == "true"); |
| [02:11:00] | feld: | both repeats there to `repeat` ? |
| [02:12:00] | kormoc: | nope |
| [02:12:00] | kormoc: | just in the sql query |
| [02:12:00] | kormoc: | s |
| [02:12:00] | feld: | i dont know what those are |
| [02:12:00] | feld: | i know nothing about mysql |
| [02:13:00] | feld: | if u cant tell =) |
| [02:13:00] | kormoc: | heh |
| [02:13:00] | feld: | can u give me an example of what i'm looking for? there's only 9 instances of the word repeat in here |
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| [02:16:00] | feld: | kormoc: query.prepare("INSERT I.........,duration,repeat,stereo.......... |
| [02:16:00] | feld: | in there? in the query.prepare's? |
| [02:17:00] | kormoc: | feld, yup |
| [02:18:00] | kormoc: | line 181 |
| [02:18:00] | feld: | ok is that the only place? |
| [02:18:00] | kormoc: | 418 |
| [02:18:00] | kormoc: | 621 |
| [02:18:00] | kormoc: | 639 |
| [02:19:00] | Skiingsean: | ok crappy n00b question but how can i get a symbolic link of another directory of videos linked to /mythvideo |
| [02:19:00] | Skiingsean: | i keep getting not permitted errors |
| [02:19:00] | feld: | uh wait 621 is repeat bool |
| [02:20:00] | kormoc: | ooh? |
| [02:20:00] | feld: | so it should be `repeat bool` or `repeat` bool |
| [02:20:00] | Skiingsean: | or can i specify multiple directories in library.xml |
| [02:20:00] | kormoc: | 'repeat' |
| [02:20:00] | Skiingsean: | me? |
| [02:21:00] | feld: | ok saved |
| [02:21:00] | feld: | now you be my savior kormoc |
| [02:21:00] | feld: | how do i tell portage to build from this |
| [02:21:00] | feld: | doesnt portage overwrite it with a fresh unpack? |
| [02:21:00] | feld: | i've never done something like this before, so i'm not sure. |
| [02:22:00] | kormoc: | feld, that's the issue, you eather write a patch and edit the ebuild to use it or you compile it by hand |
| [02:22:00] | feld: | i thought there was a way to tell portage to use those file and not unpack |
| [02:23:00] | kormoc: | there likly is, I just don't know it |
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| [02:24:00] | Skiingsean: | ok another question, wehre do i configure my mouse, when i go to Input Connections i get a segment fault |
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| [02:28:00] | feld: | i wish i knew how to write patches |
| [02:28:00] | feld: | they are so weird looking |
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| [02:40:00] | Skiingsean: | how would i begin to create separated media folders within mythvideo and have the menu understand this? do i need to edit library.xml? im a lil confused.. is there a place that helps with this online? |
| [02:42:00] | sphery: | You could use the folders view of MythVideo. |
| [02:42:00] | Skiingsean: | ok.. havent played enough, I will mess with the settings |
| [02:42:00] | Skiingsean: | :) |
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| [02:57:00] | ocnarfid: | Hello people. I'm trying to figure out the best way to display HD content to 5 HDTV's. What do most people uses at trade shows and such? D-VHS? Computer+HD Card? |
| [02:59:00] | xris: | ocnarfid: wrong channel... but generally, a video splitter would be the best option. |
| [03:01:00] | ocnarfid: | no no, i'm talking about player, not really spliting it between screens. |
| [03:01:00] | ocnarfid: | xris: is there a right channel on here for this kind of topic? |
| [03:01:00] | ocnarfid: | wasn't able to figure out one yet. |
| [03:02:00] | ocnarfid: | I found HDMI splitters for splitting a single source, seems decent. I'm just trying to figure out how most people play recorded HD content. |
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| [03:10:00] | Skiingsean: | how would I go about creating submenus for loads of movies in various formats for example? is see the library xml go's to jump mythvideo when you want to watch videos but how about a sub-menu under videos, for movies, tvshows, etc? |
| [03:11:00] | Skiingsean: | and if its as simple as creating the folders inside /mythvideo then i take it mythtv doesnt understand symlinks? |
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| [03:16:00] | oneforall: | hi I have a saa7133/4 tv/tuner now with oss=1 in the modprobe.onf its supposed to take the next dsp right . But its not its taking dsp0 how do i get the onboard sound card to take that first ,so the tv card will take dsp1 |
| [03:16:00] | oneforall: | I took out the oos=1 ans it still is |
| [03:16:00] | oneforall: | I'd say its becasue rc.alsa isn't loading the sound crad module eh? |
| [03:17:00] | oneforall: | firdt |
| [03:17:00] | oneforall: | er first |
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| [03:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Skiingsean: Mythvideo will follow symlinks just fine |
| [03:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use multiple directories and symlinks to organize my stuff |
| [03:44:00] | Skiingsean: | GreyFoxx, Thanks i just figured that out, for some reason it hadn't refreshed its directory view |
| [03:45:00] | Skiingsean: | i think ive got it now, now to find a more convenient way to control the settings until I can get a remote |
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| [03:46:00] | redline-: | geforce 2 mx400 or geforece 4 mx440 that is the question for standard tv output from mythfrontend |
| [03:46:00] | redline-: | anyone have any suggestions? |
| [03:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'd go with the 44o |
| [03:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | 440 |
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| [03:47:00] | redline-: | i was thinking but wanted to see if it could get away with a cheaper card |
| [03:47:00] | redline-: | 440 has more tv features? |
| [03:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | considering you can buy a "new" one for like $20–30 that's pretty cheap :) |
| [03:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | redline-: better driver support |
| [03:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | and xvmc mpeg decoding abilities |
| [03:48:00] | redline-: | ebay has em for 30 but saw a few 400 for 12 or 10 |
| [03:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | in fact I think the tv out controls are quite shakey to non existant for the old gf2's with recent drivers |
| [03:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | I can get them at my local shop for like $30 CDN |
| [03:49:00] | redline-: | Grey, I am still stumped with some lirc problems, is there any hidden gems of a site out there that would be actually usefull? |
| [03:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't use lirc at all with my remotes/frontends |
| [03:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | can't really help ya there |
| [03:49:00] | redline-: | how do you do it then? |
| [03:49:00] | redline-: | learning remotes? |
| [03:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | 1 learning remote, and 1 RF remote with a usb dongle that I hacked up a driver to handle. The system see's it as a usb mouse and keyboard |
| [03:51:00] | redline-: | nice |
| [03:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | my 3rd regular frontend has a IR keyboard, and the 4th is a mediamvp with it's own remote |
| [03:52:00] | redline-: | I got mey MCE remote to work almost perfectly i just cant controll my cable box yet |
| [03:52:00] | redline-: | I made the irblaster but cant get irsend to work |
| [03:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | I built one of those that I used briefly with a external cable box. But I haven't used it for a long long time |
| [03:52:00] | redline-: | anyway GreyFoxx thanks to you and all the dev's for your work on this project |
| [03:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | My work is minor in comparison to others :) |
| [03:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | But yer welcome nonethe less :) |
| [03:53:00] | redline-: | I setup to mythfronend boxes the other day and much to my suprise i was able to stream live tv! |
| [03:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yeah, it's sweet. |
| [03:54:00] | redline-: | ahhh your work is more visible than others casue you answer questions here, cant make a product if no one knows how to use it |
| [03:54:00] | redline-: | to = two =p |
| [03:54:00] | ** GreyFoxx hopes to be commiting some more mythgame stuff this weekend to use my new romdb ** | |
| [03:54:00] | redline-: | mmmmm |
| [03:55:00] | redline-: | i got tv to work i still cant get music dvd or games to work yet |
| [03:55:00] | redline-: | but i do have weather |
| [03:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've still got a bunch of info to fill in and update but the romdb should be pretty comprehensive |
| [03:57:00] | redline-: | romdb for psp games? |
| [03:57:00] | redline-: | play station i mean |
| [03:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | All gametypes |
| [03:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | but currently there is nothing in there for any PSP games |
| [03:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.phaze.org/romdb/index.php is the little webbased search engine for the db I'm working on |
| [04:00:00] | redline-: | nice, thats a fast search |
| [04:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | crc's are fast, the name search needs to be retooled |
| [04:02:00] | smoke_: | man i made these modifciations to the mythtv ui to play soudns but now i can't get it to work... something is wrong with QT or something QSound isnt playing any sounds and NAS is working perfectly fine... :/ |
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| [04:06:00] | redline-: | znyone know when the next myth release will be? |
| [04:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | no specific timeline I've seen mentioned |
| [04:09:00] | redline-: | i see there is a ton of changes coming |
| [04:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup, lots of stuff going on |
| [04:09:00] | redline-: | including the UI |
| [04:10:00] | redline-: | im not that savvy with coding but Everquest the game was awsome to learn how to manipulate an xml driven UI |
| [04:10:00] | redline-: | it was very fast and clean |
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| [04:11:00] | Skiingsean: | ok, anyone know why when I go to watch videos under the list view I can see the folders I have newly created, but under browse or gallery, I see none of that, and I see only 2 files (which have been moved/deleted) |
| [04:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | odds are you are using file view under the video list, but the others are not |
| [04:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | and if they sren't then they will only show stuff that'ds in the db from video manager |
| [04:13:00] | Skiingsean: | hmm, how would I update the vid manager DB, ive never actually set it up, as I dont have any tv channels avail right now |
| [04:14:00] | Skiingsean: | arf i found it |
| [04:14:00] | Skiingsean: | sry |
| [04:15:00] | Skiingsean: | ok is there a nice way to organize these in the gallery .. maybe resepctive to their folders, without listing every vid i have in one menu |
| [04:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | I dont' use anything but the video list :) |
| [04:16:00] | Skiingsean: | ok, and what about dvd;s that are on the HD, am i required to traverse the folders and select the correct video ts |
| [04:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | I dont' do that either |
| [04:16:00] | Skiingsean: | what do you mean.. you dont have dvds on the HD, or traverse the folders |
| [04:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | I either play off the disk in mythdvd or use a dvd player |
| [04:17:00] | Skiingsean: | ah okies :) |
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| [04:25:00] | flex1grip: | can someone help me out real quick? do i use ivtv with a TV WONDER PRO? |
| [04:26:00] | feld: | ok guys i'm ALMOST THERE |
| [04:26:00] | feld: | i need to know why i'm getting no TV though |
| [04:26:00] | feld: | everything plugged in |
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| [04:26:00] | feld: | pvr-250 which was chosen as a card with Tuner as the default input because i'm using coax in |
| [04:27:00] | sw_bluntman: | sorry of this is OT. There doesn't seem to be much help available in #lirc. I am trying to compile multiple instances of lirc_serial, but the scripts out there don't seem to support 0.7.2 and I don't really understand the instructions I am seeing as to what to change in the source. Is anyone able/willing to help? |
| [04:27:00] | feld: | my cable provider is Charter — i dont know if their signal is any different. its just basic cable. |
| [04:29:00] | Skiingsean: | do I need to have the backend running to properly apply and change appearance and playback settings? it seems my settings arent being applied and saved, even though the menus show my Resolution changes for example |
| [04:30:00] | flex1grip: | can someone help me out real quick? do i use ivtv with a TV WONDER PRO? |
| [04:30:00] | Skiingsean: | flex, sry i have no clue |
| [04:31:00] | flex1grip: | c2388 chipset |
| [04:33:00] | DarkBeer: | flex1grip, try google? http://www.google.com/search?q=ivtv+ATI+TV+Wo . . . -US:official |
| [04:33:00] | feld: | anyone know anything about my situation? |
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| [04:49:00] | banyan: | I'm having weird things happen with mythbackend when using a fresh fc4 install. I can get the backend to start when I run it as root but when I "service mythbackend start", it dies because it can't access mysql. It isn't using the settings in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt when started as a service. |
| [04:51:00] | Skiingsean: | how do you guys get around or manage video sizes when lots of files look great being fullscreened atuomatically but some are just too small and crapy of a file for that to work? |
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| [04:51:00] | Skiingsean: | banyan im completely new to MythTV .. but do you have the Mysql db installed and setup for user mythtv? |
| [04:52:00] | feld: | banyan: mysql service needs to be started first |
| [04:52:00] | Skiingsean: | try having a second consol open and run the command tail -f /var/log/messages and watch that output as to try to start the backend |
| [04:52:00] | feld: | but it cant be started until u give it a database |
| [04:52:00] | Skiingsean: | <nod> |
| [04:52:00] | simcop2387: | any mplex experts out there? i'm trying to to remplex a recorded show to work on a dvd, right now i've got "mplex --format 8 <output> <input>" and i just keep getting the --help output with no explination |
| [04:54:00] | simcop2387: | never mind... doh stupid error |
| [04:54:00] | simcop2387: | but it still needs to be alot nicer output |
| [04:55:00] | Skiingsean: | man mythvideo |
| [04:55:00] | Skiingsean: | erm sry |
| [04:56:00] | simcop2387: | heh i do that too |
| [04:56:00] | Skiingsean: | just wish there woulda been a real manpage for it :/ |
| [04:57:00] | Skiingsean: | im thinking i might install freevo side by side and give em both a testdrive |
| [04:58:00] | simcop2387: | Skiingsean: what problems with mythtv are you having? |
| [04:58:00] | Skiingsean: | Would you all out there agree or say that MythTV is useless without a capture card? I currently dont live where I could make use of that, but want to in the futre,, right now I want a menu that others can easily use (like myth) and access all of my media currently stored on HD's (but in a nice outlay) and have a good control over the media |
| [04:59:00] | Skiingsean: | simcop2387, im not finding it very easy or nice, to arrrange all of my media (avi, dvd,mpg, divx, etc) into a nice user friendly menu |
| [05:00:00] | Skiingsean: | ive been able to "locate" everything with the watch videos, but for example I cant have the ability to have DVDs on HD have a single file to start/play the movie yet in the same menu have the AVI's of movies also play |
| [05:00:00] | Skiingsean: | i dont know, if that makes ANY sense at all :) |
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| [05:01:00] | banyan: | mysql is running. But it tries to log in with different credentials if I start as a service vs. starting as root. |
| [05:02:00] | Skiingsean: | banyan you say you're installing this on FC4? |
| [05:03:00] | Skiingsean: | if so this helped me a lot http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php |
| [05:03:00] | banyan: | Yes. |
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| [05:03:00] | Skiingsean: | that should be able to solve the MySql issues you are seeing/having (i hope) |
| [05:03:00] | banyan: | I have that open right now actually! It just says I have to make sure I don't have multiple copies of the mysql.txt file. |
| [05:04:00] | Skiingsean: | did you do all of step 12 |
| [05:05:00] | Skiingsean: | along with # mysql -u root mysql |
| [05:05:00] | Skiingsean: | mysql> UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('ROOT_PWD') WHERE user='root'; |
| [05:05:00] | Skiingsean: | mysql> FLUSH PRIVILEGES; |
| [05:05:00] | Skiingsean: | mysql> quit |
| [05:05:00] | simcop2387: | Skiingsean: it makes some sense, did you transcode the dvd's or dump them? if dumping them then yea i don't think mythtv supports detecting and playing those easily (nor does freevo AFAIK) |
| [05:05:00] | banyan: | I did that. |
| [05:06:00] | Skiingsean: | simcop2387, ok I gotche. well most of the DVD's i still have laying around, some have been lost (throughout college) What if I was to turn them into ISO's and mount them as DVD's? |
| [05:06:00] | banyan: | I can log in by hand, and mythtv works when logging in after being started from a shell as root. |
| [05:06:00] | Skiingsean: | they are the exact copy of the DVD stripped down to the PC to be burned again as a DVD |
| [05:06:00] | Skiingsean: | so dumped I guess |
| [05:06:00] | simcop2387: | Skiingsean: if you setup the optical device setup to use the loop device maybe, never tried it |
| [05:06:00] | simcop2387: | yea thats a dump |
| [05:07:00] | Skiingsean: | <nod> |
| [05:07:00] | simcop2387: | thats one thing i don't like about mythtv multiple dvd players aren't supported exactly, you'd have to write a script really to go do it, ooo!!! |
| [05:07:00] | simcop2387: | i just got an idea! |
| [05:07:00] | simcop2387: | you have them as iso's right? |
| [05:07:00] | Skiingsean: | Gotche, ok well i might play with them then.. No but I can easily make em be ISO's and mount them |
| [05:08:00] | Skiingsean: | I gotta figure out more of how Myth handles the xml's and devices and whatnot (only installed it 30 min ago for the first time) so im much of a noob here still |
| [05:08:00] | simcop2387: | Skiingsean: what i'm thinking is that you can setup mythvideo to play different files with different players |
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| [05:09:00] | Skiingsean: | banyan, gimme one min, though i prolly wont be much help, but what is the "exact" mysql error and all say |
| [05:09:00] | simcop2387: | then you can write a script that mounts the iso and plays it, then unmounts it, and have that setup as the player for those, and you get a single file to use in myth video and can still organize it anyway you want |
| [05:09:00] | simcop2387: | and does anyone know how to use the video editor in the recording section? |
| [05:10:00] | Skiingsean: | simcop2387, definately .. i wouldn't have thought to do it that way, but that will most likely be easier than creating symlinks to 20phantom DVD's |
| [05:10:00] | Skiingsean: | lol |
| [05:10:00] | simcop2387: | Skiingsean: heh |
| [05:10:00] | Skiingsean: | hmm ill have to play with that tonight |
| [05:11:00] | Skiingsean: | brb |
| [05:11:00] | banyan: | Database error was: |
| [05:11:00] | banyan: | Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| [05:11:00] | banyan: | That's what it says. |
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| [05:13:00] | Fosten: | anybody using mythstreamtv? i am unable to play streams in client players (wmp, real, vlc)... and the only error in my logs is a [msmpeg4 @ 0xb7ea0930]warning, cliping 1 dct coefficents to -127..127 – but i dont think that's the problem |
| [05:15:00] | simcop2387: | Skiingsean: looks like it'll be easy to do, utils/setup->setup->media->videos->file types, create a new extension, point the command to the script to play them, (the script should accept the file name on the command line) and uncheck use default player and ignore, then hit done and then it'll use that script to play iso's, then its just a matter of getting that script to your satisfaction |
| [05:15:00] | simcop2387: | once you do post it on the mythtv wiki for others! |
| [05:16:00] | simcop2387: | or i'll do it first, i'm about to make a dvd as it is |
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| [05:17:00] | Skiingsean: | banyan gimme two seconds i just saw that fix somewhere i believe lemme look |
| [05:18:00] | banyan: | Oh cool! |
| [05:18:00] | simcop2387: | dang it! how do i use the recording editor to cut out things from the original file! |
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| [05:19:00] | _Nero_: | banyan- can you log into mysql through the command line? |
| [05:19:00] | _Nero_: | (U/N and P/w should be mythtv if I am not mistaken) |
| [05:19:00] | Skiingsean: | simcop2387, ill post some on the wiki tonight, I think im going to write a whole bunch of scripts, I think im going to convert everything I have to Divx first because I have a whole bunch of mpgs, wmas, avis, etc in one folder i have for music vids and whatnot too, i have a few other things i needa do too |
| [05:19:00] | banyan: | I can. |
| [05:20:00] | banyan: | And it logs in correctly if I start as root. |
| [05:20:00] | _Nero_: | but when do you get this db error? |
| [05:20:00] | Skiingsean: | i think he needs to set the permissions on the db "one for the user name and whatnot" and also "a second for his subnet" |
| [05:20:00] | banyan: | I do a "service mythbackend start" |
| [05:20:00] | banyan: | and that's when I get this db error. |
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| [05:20:00] | _Nero_: | do you have phpMyAdmin installeD? |
| [05:20:00] | Skiingsean: | but its been too long since ive been doing this stuff to remember it off the top of my head (hasnt taken a sql class or used sql in 5 yrs :/) |
| [05:21:00] | _Nero_: | hehe.. |
| [05:21:00] | simcop2387: | aw man the cut list doesn't do jack squat other that let you setup custom commercial skips... :( i'll have to cut them out manually from the video |
| [05:21:00] | Skiingsean: | $ mysql -u root mythconverg |
| [05:21:00] | Skiingsean: | mysql> grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"%" identified by "mythtv"; |
| [05:21:00] | Skiingsean: | mysql> flush privileges; |
| [05:21:00] | Skiingsean: | $ mysql -u root mythconverg |
| [05:21:00] | Skiingsean: | mysql> grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"192.168.1.%" identified by "mythtv"; |
| [05:21:00] | Skiingsean: | mysql> flush privileges; |
| [05:21:00] | Skiingsean: | and of course tailor those to your needs.. im not 100% sure but i believe that sounds like what your prob may be |
| [05:21:00] | banyan: | and the identified by is a password correct? |
| [05:22:00] | Skiingsean: | no leave that as is |
| [05:22:00] | _Nero_: | no- identified should be the username. |
| [05:22:00] | Skiingsean: | thats just granted permissions to that user ID and all users identified by "mythtv" |
| [05:22:00] | banyan: | Isn't that redundant? |
| [05:22:00] | Skiingsean: | thats also if you want remote, thats why the identified by "uname" |
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| [05:23:00] | Skiingsean: | im sure that can be written differently, but again i dont remember enough sql |
| [05:23:00] | Skiingsean: | but the identified by should be left as is in that syntax only changing mythtv if using another uname |
| [05:24:00] | Skiingsean: | but unless using a FQDN dont use the mythtv@ one unless you have a domain to put |
| [05:24:00] | Skiingsean: | the second will do the same and allow access from all computers on your subnet |
| [05:24:00] | Skiingsean: | which is secure since 192. is a private IP |
| [05:25:00] | Skiingsean: | or whatever private IP scheme you have |
| [05:26:00] | Boonie: | need some help with getting xmltv installed |
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| [05:26:00] | Boonie: | I'm running suse 9.3 pro |
| [05:26:00] | banyan: | I did have a new respect for mysql today, when I was trying to do something that should have been easy with access 2000 but was not. |
| [05:26:00] | Boonie: | it won't install because it needs |
| [05:26:00] | banyan: | You can only cascade delete, you can't do a "set references to null on delete". |
| [05:26:00] | Boonie: | perl-xmltv: |
| [05:26:00] | Boonie: | Depends: perl-Term-ProgressBar but it is not going to be installed |
| [05:26:00] | Boonie: | perl-Term-ProgressBar: |
| [05:26:00] | Boonie: | Depends: perl-Class-MethodMaker but it is not installable |
| [05:26:00] | Boonie: | Depends: perl-HTML-Tree but it is not installable |
| [05:26:00] | Boonie: | Depends: perl-SOAP-Lite but it is not installable |
| [05:26:00] | banyan: | Whereas in mysql you can do that. |
| [05:27:00] | Boonie: | and I can't get any of those to install |
| [05:27:00] | banyan: | boonie, are you using yum? is that a dumb question? |
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| [05:27:00] | Boonie: | I'm a linux newb |
| [05:27:00] | banyan: | I don't even know whether yum works on suse. |
| [05:27:00] | Boonie: | those packages aren't listed on synaptic or yast |
| [05:27:00] | Boonie: | I dl'd them from the web and did |
| [05:28:00] | Skiingsean: | I dont believe yum works on suse.. i think they use yast2 |
| [05:28:00] | banyan: | You can get rpms of those packages from atrpms but I don't know whether they're built for anything but red hat or fedora. |
| [05:28:00] | simcop2387: | anyone know what table mythtv keeps the cut lists/commercial boundries in mysql? |
| [05:28:00] | Skiingsean: | or debian packages? |
| [05:28:00] | Boonie: | rpm -ivh <package name> and it said they installed |
| [05:28:00] | banyan: | I think it's cutlist. |
| [05:28:00] | Boonie: | but when I go back to install xmltv it says it still needs them |
| [05:28:00] | Boonie: | any ideas? |
| [05:29:00] | banyan: | Try putting xmltv and the perl-* packages all on one install line. |
| [05:29:00] | Boonie: | k |
| [05:29:00] | banyan: | rpm -ivh xmltv-blah-blah.rpm perl-Class-Methodmaker-blah-blah.rpm ... |
| [05:29:00] | Boonie: | how do I seperate the packages? |
| [05:29:00] | Boonie: | ah |
| [05:29:00] | Boonie: | k |
| [05:29:00] | banyan: | with a space |
| [05:29:00] | Skiingsean: | hmm what DVD and ISO proggies you guys use in Linux? |
| [05:30:00] | Skiingsean: | i also havent done much Video in linux yet |
| [05:30:00] | banyan: | That way you are doing it in one transaction. |
| [05:30:00] | banyan: | I use dvdauthor |
| [05:30:00] | Skiingsean: | cool |
| [05:30:00] | _Nero_: | DVD as in play DVDs? or make them? |
| [05:30:00] | banyan: | and growisofs. |
| [05:30:00] | Skiingsean: | all of the above |
| [05:30:00] | banyan: | Playing can be done with mplayer. |
| [05:30:00] | Skiingsean: | well ok not play |
| [05:31:00] | Skiingsean: | i like xine, its nicer on the menus |
| [05:31:00] | banyan: | There's a howto somewhere on mythtv about burning your recordings to dvd. |
| [05:31:00] | _Nero_: | yeah, I use xine to play dvds.. |
| [05:31:00] | Skiingsean: | yeah i wont be recording anything till I move and get my own setup |
| [05:32:00] | _Nero_: | xine is also nice with the chain-reaction post-processing |
| [05:33:00] | Skiingsean: | so you'd recommend using DVDauthor to convert a dumped dvd to an ISO |
| [05:33:00] | Skiingsean: | otherwise I have a windows PC in another room id rather not need to get back onto |
| [05:34:00] | banyan: | Well, dvdauthor can be used to create a dvd file system from a series of mpg files. |
| [05:34:00] | Skiingsean: | ah ok.. |
| [05:34:00] | banyan: | and if you want to do the work, you can build a DVD with menus etc. |
| [05:34:00] | Skiingsean: | what about a dvd image (dumped) and turning that into an ISO |
| [05:35:00] | banyan: | dvdunauthor does the reverse — extracts the dvd into the file system. |
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| [05:35:00] | banyan: | It doesn't exactly create an ISO tho. |
| [05:35:00] | Skiingsean: | hmm ok |
| [05:36:00] | simcop2387: | anyone? |
| [05:36:00] | banyan: | It creates a directory with two directories in it... VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS (I think). |
| [05:36:00] | Skiingsean: | simcop2387, no clue sry |
| [05:36:00] | simcop2387: | Skiingsean: mkisofs is what you'd want to make an iso out of the directory |
| [05:36:00] | Skiingsean: | banyan, right like any dvd dump |
| [05:36:00] | banyan: | and inside the VIDEO_TS will be a bunch of files, one of which will be very large and which is the movie. |
| [05:36:00] | Skiingsean: | simcop2387, perfect thanks |
| [05:37:00] | banyan: | What I've done, is take that very large file and make it its own filesystem with dvdauthor, and then use growisofs to write that to a dvd. |
| [05:37:00] | banyan: | This gets around the trouble of not being able to write as much data as is usually on a commercial dvd. |
| [05:37:00] | Skiingsean: | yeah, but i want to keep the entire structure with all the submenus and whatnot |
| [05:37:00] | banyan: | (usually it does) |
| [05:38:00] | Skiingsean: | im not going to be burning to a dvd, but if you have a dual layer burner you can recreate that same dvd |
| [05:38:00] | banyan: | If you can write the whole structure (i.e. it's not too big to fit on a disk) |
| [05:38:00] | Skiingsean: | i just want to recreate the file sys (ISO) from the DVD dump,, so ill give mkisofs a try |
| [05:38:00] | banyan: | True, but unless you have a dual layer dvd player you won't be able to play it except on the computer. |
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| [05:39:00] | GeekZoid: | hi |
| [05:39:00] | GeekZoid: | does MythTV support WInTV-PVR 150 |
| [05:39:00] | banyan: | yes. |
| [05:39:00] | GeekZoid: | woo hoo |
| [05:39:00] | GeekZoid: | any howtos for susE? |
| [05:39:00] | banyan: | with the ivtv drivers. |
| [05:39:00] | banyan: | That I'm not sure. |
| [05:39:00] | GeekZoid: | its giving me errors |
| [05:40:00] | GeekZoid: | with suse anyway |
| [05:40:00] | banyan: | You need one extra binary file, for the 150, that you don't need for the 250. |
| [05:40:00] | GeekZoid: | something like novell doesnt support it |
| [05:40:00] | banyan: | Hmm, tainted kernel kinda thing? |
| [05:40:00] | GeekZoid: | banyan: where can i get it? |
| [05:40:00] | banyan: | Usually it's just in a package. |
| [05:40:00] | banyan: | ivtv-firmware... |
| [05:41:00] | banyan: | available from atrpms. |
| [05:41:00] | GeekZoid: | Ya its saying something messed up with the firmware |
| [05:41:00] | banyan: | mailbox ? |
| [05:41:00] | GeekZoid: | does the Infared wrk with it? |
| [05:41:00] | banyan: | Do you remember seeing anything re: mailbox? |
| [05:41:00] | GeekZoid: | no |
| [05:41:00] | banyan: | Yes, lirc can be set up to handle the remote. |
| [05:41:00] | GeekZoid: | i'll try it again though.. I was trying to use it with the auto-setup with suse |
| [05:41:00] | GeekZoid: | but i'll try installing myth tv and see where i go from there.. |
| [05:42:00] | GeekZoid: | at least i know that it works.. thats the first thing :) |
| [05:42:00] | GeekZoid: | which is better 250 or 150.. i suppose 250.. cuz its higher :) |
| [05:42:00] | banyan: | Really, the first thing to do is get the ivtv packages and make sure you can read the /dev/video0 with xmltv. |
| [05:42:00] | GeekZoid: | ok.. |
| [05:43:00] | ** GeekZoid googles for ivtv... ** | |
| [05:43:00] | banyan: | Does suse have a modprobe.conf file in /etc? |
| [05:43:00] | banyan: | also available at atrpms...\ |
| [05:43:00] | banyan: | you may have to get friendly with rpm directly to install them. |
| [05:43:00] | GeekZoid: | oh i understand rpms pretty well |
| [05:43:00] | Skiingsean: | simcop2387, awesome mkisofs works perfectly! thanks |
| [05:44:00] | banyan: | I'm fairly sure I had my mythtv working with suse 9 way way back when. |
| [05:44:00] | GeekZoid: | oh ok... |
| [05:44:00] | banyan: | That was three hats and a lizard ago tho. |
| [05:44:00] | simcop2387: | Skiingsean: cool, i'm working on my autodvd author scripts right now, i'm settting it up so that it makes the dvd's with commercial skipping, AND with the commercials still there so that if they are detected incorrectly you can either turn it off or just rewind |
| [05:44:00] | banyan: | lol |
| [05:44:00] | GeekZoid: | banyan: Do i haveto update the firmware? |
| [05:45:00] | jnunez: | GeekZoid: I think that the 150 and 250 are the same. The 150 is a newer model with the same features. reduced amount of chips on the board and no IR Blaster |
| [05:45:00] | GeekZoid: | will that mess it up so i cant use windows? |
| [05:45:00] | banyan: | do you have any files in /lib/modules that look like they're .bin files? |
| [05:45:00] | banyan: | (is it .bin? hmm) |
| [05:45:00] | GeekZoid: | banyan: Should i update the firmware for it.. ? |
| [05:46:00] | simcop2387: | Skiingsean: also it'll be autogenerating menus |
| [05:46:00] | Skiingsean: | simcop2387, nice! ill definately have to read up on it if you post it in the wiki somewhere.. my problem is,is until i move not only cant i use my capture card, I also am almost out of HD space so I wont be ripping anymore DVD's <cringe> |
| [05:46:00] | banyan: | There's a list of firmwares somewhere on ivtv's website. |
| [05:46:00] | banyan: | That's why ya need to burn them again. |
| [05:46:00] | banyan: | gets 'em off your hard drive! |
| [05:46:00] | Skiingsean: | simcop2387, only the ones I have backed up on what HD's i have left |
| [05:47:00] | Skiingsean: | nah I just needa get some new (larger) HD's and be good to go |
| [05:47:00] | simcop2387: | Skiingsean: well i'll be designing it so that it'll work as a plugin to mythtv, you create a playlist of recorded shows (thats already supported) then you tell it to burn a dvd of them and it'll author the whole thing for you |
| [05:47:00] | banyan: | At 5 or 6 gigs a pop, you'll be buying hard drives weekly. |
| [05:47:00] | Skiingsean: | Id rather have every DVD I own on a HD cluster vs Disc, that way no looking for discs, no ruining discs, no skipping ... |
| [05:47:00] | Skiingsean: | simcop2387, sweet! |
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| [05:48:00] | Skiingsean: | banyan, nah i wanna get a couple 3–400 gig SATA drives and raid-em |
| [05:48:00] | banyan: | I got a couple of 250s. |
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| [05:49:00] | Skiingsean: | <sighs> my last two drives larger than 80gigs (2x 200gig) took a dump not too long ago, also due to where I live .. and well the hurricanes |
| [05:49:00] | Skiingsean: | they are effectively oversized paperweights now |
| [05:49:00] | Skiingsean: | but ill brb, 10min? |
| [05:49:00] | simcop2387: | yea i plan on setting up a raid5 to help combat that a bit |
| [05:52:00] | kev_: | consider raid-1 unless you need high read speeds. it'll double your storage space |
| [05:53:00] | GeekZoid: | hi |
| [05:53:00] | GeekZoid: | banyan: im gettign firmware errors |
| [05:53:00] | GeekZoid: | in my dmesg |
| [05:53:00] | GeekZoid: | firmware failed read.. |
| [05:54:00] | GeekZoid: | and invalid ioctls... |
| [05:54:00] | kev_: | what's the advantage of multiple backends, aside from hardware redundancy? ie, why not dump all the tuner cards and storage space in a single machine? |
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| [06:01:00] | GeekZoid: | HI anyone around |
| [06:01:00] | GeekZoid: | im getting out of range errors.. |
| [06:04:00] | Skiingsean: | ah what the.... mkisofs just gave me file size limit exceeded at 76.27% |
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| [06:11:00] | Skiingsean: | great.. i just started receiving "Creating folders is not permitted with protocol trash" when trying to delete stuff in KDE? |
| [06:11:00] | Skiingsean: | wonderfull |
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| [06:11:00] | GeekZoid: | hi |
| [06:11:00] | GeekZoid: | What would cause your channels not being scannedp roperly |
| [06:11:00] | GeekZoid: | decoder? |
| [06:13:00] | Skiingsean: | GeekZoid, couldnt tell ya's right now.. im WAY new to MythTv |
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| [06:22:00] | GeekZoid_: | hi |
| [06:22:00] | GeekZoid_: | anone ghere/ |
| [06:22:00] | GeekZoid_: | What should i be using for canada? |
| [06:22:00] | GeekZoid_: | i can't get any channels to scan.. |
| [06:23:00] | GeekZoid_: | and itsd saying invalid value for input |
| [06:24:00] | GeekZoid_: | cd ~ |
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| [06:25:00] | GeekZoid_: | hi cyber |
| [06:25:00] | GeekZoid_: | Do you know why 150 would not see any channels being scanned? |
| [06:25:00] | GeekZoid_: | and giving invalid input.. |
| [06:25:00] | simcop2387: | cool i've got the syntax i want for dvdauthor, it'll allow me to make the menus have a selection for commercial skip or not (and have it by default!) and then automatically skip them without any problems |
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| [06:48:00] | Skiingsean: | doh i did a reboot and joind /mythtv i wondered why it was so quiet |
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| [07:11:00] | GeekZoid: | hi |
| [07:12:00] | GeekZoid: | WHat would cause my Ivtv not work so it shows no channel when its scanning |
| [07:12:00] | GeekZoid: | im using a WINTV-PVR150 |
| [07:14:00] | Skiingsean: | sry no clue man :/ |
| [07:16:00] | Skiingsean: | anyone here good with mkisofs |
| [07:17:00] | simcop2387: | Skiingsean: what do ya need? |
| [07:17:00] | GeekZoid: | man this sucks |
| [07:17:00] | GeekZoid: | simcop2387: Do you know why when i scan in ivtv it doesnt show the channels? |
| [07:17:00] | simcop2387: | GeekZoid: yea i've got a pvr-150, but i've never scanned (nor had a problem with it) |
| [07:17:00] | GeekZoid: | simcop2387: What are you using to watcht v/ |
| [07:17:00] | simcop2387: | mythtv |
| [07:17:00] | GeekZoid: | hmm |
| [07:18:00] | GeekZoid: | Maybe its the Scanner in suse thats not working |
| [07:18:00] | GeekZoid: | maybe its not the ivtv... |
| [07:18:00] | simcop2387: | the scanner may be setup for bttv cards in which case ivtv will not work at all with it |
| [07:18:00] | GeekZoid: | simcop2387: Another question.. do i need to install a decoder |
| [07:18:00] | GeekZoid: | rom? |
| [07:19:00] | GeekZoid: | Cuz the pl file didnt work i had to copy the roms from the cdrom |
| [07:19:00] | GeekZoid: | manually |
| [07:20:00] | GeekZoid: | im also on a 64 bit machine.. |
| [07:23:00] | Skiingsean: | what is the file size limit on a vfat part??? tell me its not 2gb <cringe> |
| [07:25:00] | Skiingsean: | simcop2387 sry for the late reply, but what is the max size an ISO can be |
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| [07:29:00] | Krazylegz: | Skiingsean: 2GB for FAT32. |
| [07:30:00] | simcop2387: | GeekZoid: decoder rom? yes |
| [07:31:00] | GeekZoid: | whats the decoder rom file |
| [07:31:00] | simcop2387: | HcwFalcn.rom |
| [07:32:00] | GeekZoid: | oh i think i named that as the encoder... |
| [07:32:00] | simcop2387: | yea |
| [07:32:00] | simcop2387: | then you have it installed |
| [07:32:00] | GeekZoid: | oh ok.. so what abvout dec? |
| [07:32:00] | GeekZoid: | -dec and -enc? |
| [07:32:00] | GeekZoid: | do ineed both bin files |
| [07:32:00] | simcop2387: | decoder? no the pvr doesn't have one |
| [07:32:00] | simcop2387: | er the 150 |
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| [07:34:00] | GeekZoid: | simcop2387: Can mythtv be compiling on a 64 bit machine? |
| [07:34:00] | simcop2387: | not a clue |
| [07:34:00] | simcop2387: | but i'd imagine so |
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| [07:36:00] | Skiingsean: | Krazylegz ouch,, that stinks.. hmm is it possible to simply convert my vfat to something else without corrupting data on that partition |
| [07:36:00] | GeekZoid: | im getting some wierd error regarding avcodec... |
| [07:36:00] | GeekZoid: | any ideas simcop? |
| [07:36:00] | GeekZoid: | array type has incomplete element |
| [07:37:00] | Skiingsean: | actually on vfat could it be a 4gb limit? thats sounds correct.. cuz the file stopped at 4gb |
| [07:37:00] | Krazylegz: | Skiingsean: NTFS. |
| [07:37:00] | Skiingsean: | krazylegz :/ gotta have safe read/write from linux |
| [07:37:00] | Krazylegz: | Skiingsean: I thought it was 2GB, but yes I could be wrong. Anyway, it's pretty small. |
| [07:37:00] | simcop2387: | Skiingsean: use a filesystem with more than 32bit file sizes! or shrink the video |
| [07:38:00] | Skiingsean: | lol they were originally NTFS |
| [07:38:00] | Krazylegz: | Skiingsean: To the best of my knowledge, it's a real pain. Best option might be to use that thing that lets you read ReiserFS from Windows. |
| [07:38:00] | Krazylegz: | I never did find a good solution. |
| [07:39:00] | Skiingsean: | hmm ok.. is Reiser the only linux native fs with >4gb |
| [07:39:00] | ** GeekZoid ponders. ** | |
| [07:39:00] | GeekZoid: | darn thing wont compile |
| [07:39:00] | Skiingsean: | jfs i think can |
| [07:39:00] | Krazylegz: | Skiingsean: I can't think of any Linux native filesystems that cannot do better than 4GB off of the top of my head. |
| [07:39:00] | Skiingsean: | <nod> ok will try to come up with something |
| [07:41:00] | Krazylegz: | If you do, let me know. I'd like a good solution too. |
| [07:41:00] | NightBird: | http://bash.org/?477843 |
| [07:41:00] | Skiingsean: | hmm ok :) |
| [07:42:00] | Krazylegz: | Right now, I store my larger files on my Linux boxen, and then reboot the desktop to Linux to watch those videos/use those files. |
| [07:42:00] | Skiingsean: | that one confused me |
| [07:42:00] | Agrajag-: | err i have files > 4GB on ext3 |
| [07:42:00] | Skiingsean: | store on linux and reboot to linux |
| [07:42:00] | Skiingsean: | Agrajag, ext3 can.. :) |
| [07:42:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, I know that JFS, XFS, ReiserFS, ext2 and ext3 will do > 4GB files. |
| [07:43:00] | Skiingsean: | Agrajag, do you know if i can convert vfat to ext3 |
| [07:43:00] | Krazylegz: | Skiingsean: Two computers. Fileserver is Linux but headless. Desktop is dual-boot. |
| [07:43:00] | Skiingsean: | gotche |
| [07:43:00] | Agrajag-: | Krazylegz: you just said you "can't think of any Linux native filesystems that cannot do better than 4GB off of the top of my head" |
| [07:44:00] | Krazylegz: | Agrajag-: Right. |
| [07:44:00] | Skiingsean: | that cannot do i think was his point.. i read it wrong too.. but then im just really confused at the whole conv... ROFL |
| [07:44:00] | Agrajag-: | haha |
| [07:44:00] | Krazylegz: | All Linux filesystems that I can think of (right now) can work with files of larger than 4GB. |
| [07:44:00] | Agrajag-: | yep |
| [07:45:00] | Skiingsean: | ok i understand that.. but then what did you want me to let you know about for a solution? |
| [07:45:00] | Skiingsean: | you mean in a linux/win environmenT? |
| [07:45:00] | Skiingsean: | which leads me back to my "but then im just really confused at the whole conv..." |
| [07:46:00] | Krazylegz: | Skiingsean: Yes, let me know if you find a good solution for storing files > 4GB and being able to r/w them from Windows and Linux. |
| [07:46:00] | feld: | Krazylegz: ext2 partition |
| [07:47:00] | feld: | there is a new installable driver for windows with full read/write capabilities |
| [07:47:00] | mishehu: | samba? |
| [07:47:00] | Skiingsean: | gotchies! well im not going to be worrying bout win for a while.. would NFS shares not work? what i need to do now is find a way to convert my vfat to another fs without losing data |
| [07:47:00] | feld: | NFS an Samba work too. easy to set up. |
| [07:47:00] | feld: | i use both. |
| [07:47:00] | Skiingsean: | <nod> |
| [07:47:00] | mishehu: | samba works quite well for windoze clients. |
| [07:47:00] | mishehu: | I support several offices that use them. |
| [07:47:00] | GeekZoid: | hmm |
| [07:47:00] | mishehu: | err |
| [07:47:00] | mishehu: | it |
| [07:47:00] | Skiingsean: | Samba is easy to setup.. |
| [07:47:00] | GeekZoid: | can anyone help me with compiling errors for mythtv |
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| [07:48:00] | Skiingsean: | one more real quick.. would u guys suggest i convert my vfat to ext3 or jfs for storing movies, which may or may not later on be shared via samba |
| [07:51:00] | mishehu: | no way to just simply convert it. |
| [07:52:00] | Skiingsean: | nod i just read that.. hmpf.. ok its not possible to mount a dumped dir of a dvd? without converting it to an ISO is it |
| [07:55:00] | mishehu: | a dumped dir of a dvd? |
| [07:55:00] | mishehu: | I'm not sure I follow. |
| [07:55:00] | Skiingsean: | basically a DVD that has been "Backed up" to a HD |
| [07:56:00] | Skiingsean: | its not in a .bin or .iso format |
| [07:56:00] | mishehu: | it's on the actual dvd disc? |
| [07:56:00] | Skiingsean: | its the actuall video_ts folders etc |
| [07:56:00] | mishehu: | oh |
| [07:56:00] | mishehu: | you ripped a dvd movie? |
| [07:56:00] | mishehu: | or something |
| [07:56:00] | Skiingsean: | no they were dvd's of my own I ripped back in college, i was able to recreate all but like 5 that are gone |
| [07:56:00] | Skiingsean: | i had about 2tb of space back then and instead of let roomies play with my discs this was safer |
| [07:57:00] | mishehu: | they are just files on a file system. if they are unencrypted you can just copy them as you would any other file. |
| [07:57:00] | Skiingsean: | no scratching, stealing, ruining, etc |
| [07:57:00] | GeekZoid: | well i see there is problem compiling mythtv with gcc version 4.0 |
| [07:57:00] | Skiingsean: | no i know,, im trying to get a "single" file to nicely showup in mythv, i was going to convert to ISO and write a script to play iso's but thats out of the que, due to the <4gb rule |
| [07:57:00] | GeekZoid: | does the CVS work with 4.0? |
| [07:57:00] | GeekZoid: | gcc 4.0? |
| [07:58:00] | Skiingsean: | i dont want my users to have to traverse the entire directory in mythtv and figure out which .vob file is the correct one |
| [07:58:00] | Skiingsean: | just a simple Movie Title, and it starts |
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| [07:58:00] | mishehu: | GeekZoid: haven't tried gcc 4.x.x yet |
| [07:59:00] | GeekZoid: | bah |
| [07:59:00] | GeekZoid: | i dont wanna compile gcc 3.3... |
| [07:59:00] | mishehu: | don't blame you |
| [07:59:00] | mishehu: | heh |
| [07:59:00] | GeekZoid: | this bites |
| [07:59:00] | GeekZoid: | i want to watch tv hehehe |
| [08:00:00] | GeekZoid: | What do i need if i dont want to record.. i just wanna watch the tv |
| [08:01:00] | mishehu: | you still need a capture card |
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| [08:05:00] | GeekZoid: | hi |
| [08:05:00] | GeekZoid: | What can i download in order to just watch tv |
| [08:05:00] | GeekZoid: | do i need a frontend and backend and so forth? and save it |
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| [08:10:00] | Skiingsean: | GeekZoid all you want to do is watch tv? as in this is your only tv and you dont care about myth right now? |
| [08:11:00] | Skiingsean: | you just want tv right |
| [08:11:00] | GeekZoid: | yes |
| [08:11:00] | GeekZoid: | thats correct |
| [08:11:00] | GeekZoid: | i tried a bunch of tv viewers |
| [08:11:00] | GeekZoid: | and they dont work with PVR-150 |
| [08:11:00] | Skiingsean: | ok,, i havent run any capture progs on linux before but i know they exist in abundance.. ..... OH.. |
| [08:11:00] | Skiingsean: | ok lemme check somethign real quick .. brb.. |
| [08:15:00] | Skiingsean: | sry i know this is not your answer and im still checking but read this yet? looks possibly prommising |
| [08:15:00] | GeekZoid: | i know. its frustrating |
| [08:15:00] | Skiingsean: | http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/support/support_pvr150.html |
| [08:15:00] | GeekZoid: | the reason why i cant have mythtv is because it doesnt work with 4.0 |
| [08:15:00] | Skiingsean: | 4.0 of what |
| [08:15:00] | GeekZoid: | gcc |
| [08:16:00] | GeekZoid: | doesnt compile with gcc 4.0.3 |
| [08:16:00] | Skiingsean: | ah .. that does suck.. well i dont have a capture card in .. and i dont know what ver FC4 is running of gcc but hopefully it will be working when i get setup... though i HAVE heard of a good amountof people running it in FC4 |
| [08:16:00] | Skiingsean: | im running it in FC4.. just no capture card :/ |
| [08:17:00] | GeekZoid: | lol that doesnt help at all |
| [08:17:00] | GeekZoid: | cuz its for linux |
| [08:17:00] | GeekZoid: | erk cuz thats page is for windows |
| [08:17:00] | Skiingsean: | ok then im lost.. you want for linux or windows |
| [08:17:00] | GeekZoid: | I want it for linux |
| [08:18:00] | GeekZoid: | I tried Kdetv |
| [08:18:00] | Skiingsean: | oh the happauge page, yeah sry.. the desc in google said linux somewhere |
| [08:18:00] | GeekZoid: | XawTv |
| [08:18:00] | GeekZoid: | oh i did |
| [08:18:00] | GeekZoid: | nothing.. |
| [08:18:00] | Skiingsean: | ivtv is the only thing listed.. and happauge says so too |
| [08:18:00] | GeekZoid: | ya i know |
| [08:18:00] | GeekZoid: | ivtv WORKS |
| [08:18:00] | Skiingsean: | but |
| [08:18:00] | GeekZoid: | but i need to view it with something |
| [08:18:00] | GeekZoid: | its the driver.. |
| [08:18:00] | Skiingsean: | ah |
| [08:18:00] | GeekZoid: | i need something that talks to the driver |
| [08:19:00] | GeekZoid: | i got ivtv seeing my card.. |
| [08:19:00] | Skiingsean: | wine and run wintv2000 ? lol |
| [08:20:00] | Skiingsean: | pull the HD and throw win98/xp on something and wait till something better comes along |
| [08:20:00] | GeekZoid: | lol |
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| [08:20:00] | GeekZoid: | i could try that i guess |
| [08:20:00] | GeekZoid: | but im lazy |
| [08:20:00] | Skiingsean: | yeah |
| [08:20:00] | GeekZoid: | and i wanna get rid of my windows xp partition |
| [08:21:00] | Skiingsean: | when i said wine.. i meant the program wine |
| [08:21:00] | GeekZoid: | im trying to convert everything to my new suse box :) |
| [08:21:00] | Skiingsean: | <nod> i wish i could put everything in this house on fedora.. |
| [08:21:00] | Skiingsean: | soon |
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| [08:25:00] | Skiingsean: | hmm me thinks im going to quite and go watch a movie or so.. almost 2am and i havent done "anythign whatsoever productive" in 2+hrs lol |
| [08:25:00] | Skiingsean: | dont think im going to if i try |
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| [08:25:00] | GeekZoid: | well |
| [08:25:00] | GeekZoid: | WINE doesnt work |
| [08:26:00] | Skiingsean: | whacha mean |
| [08:26:00] | GeekZoid: | jsut tried it |
| [08:26:00] | Skiingsean: | ah that sux |
| [08:26:00] | GeekZoid: | its giving me error |
| [08:26:00] | Skiingsean: | twas only a thought,, i do know that wine is VERY tempermental |
| [08:26:00] | simcop2387: | GeekZoid: getting wine working is an artform, keeping it working is impossible |
| [08:27:00] | Skiingsean: | exactly |
| [08:27:00] | ** GeekZoid chuckles ** | |
| [08:27:00] | Skiingsean: | simcop2387 you cant think of any capture progs for GeekZoid that he hasn't named that work with ivtv driver? |
| [08:27:00] | GeekZoid: | simcop2387: Any ideas on how to get MythTV to work with gcc 4.03/ |
| [08:27:00] | simcop2387: | cat |
| [08:27:00] | GeekZoid: | cat? |
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| [08:28:00] | simcop2387: | cat /dev/video0 (after setting the normal, and the frequency with ivtvctl) |
| [08:28:00] | simcop2387: | cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg #wait a while, hit ctrl+c then play the mpeg |
| [08:28:00] | GeekZoid: | oh |
| [08:28:00] | GeekZoid: | but i wanna switch channels.. |
| [08:28:00] | GeekZoid: | lol |
| [08:28:00] | GeekZoid: | i dotn want to save it |
| [08:28:00] | GeekZoid: | i just want to view it |
| [08:28:00] | simcop2387: | GeekZoid: its a good way to test it though |
| [08:28:00] | GeekZoid: | oh ok |
| [08:28:00] | simcop2387: | make sure its working |
| [08:29:00] | GeekZoid: | hmm |
| [08:29:00] | GeekZoid: | Is there anyway to get the development version of MythTV? |
| [08:29:00] | simcop2387: | yep, use CVS |
| [08:29:00] | simcop2387: | your local pharmacy has tons of copies.... |
| [08:29:00] | GeekZoid: | maybe they got it workign now with gcc 4.03 |
| [08:30:00] | GeekZoid: | lol |
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| [08:30:00] | feld: | got what working |
| [08:30:00] | GeekZoid: | simcop2387: WHats the cvs server name |
| [08:30:00] | simcop2387: | i've always wanted to use that joke |
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| [08:30:00] | simcop2387: | GeekZoid: dunno i'll look it up |
| [08:30:00] | GeekZoid: | feld: MythTV doesnt compile with version gcc 4.0- |
| [08:30:00] | feld: | nothing wrong with 4.xx GCC |
| [08:30:00] | GeekZoid: | it gives element errors |
| [08:30:00] | feld: | yup, dirty code ;) |
| [08:31:00] | GeekZoid: | lol ok. WELL I want a mythtv without dirty code :) |
| [08:31:00] | feld: | GCC 4.xx has some very picky standards |
| [08:31:00] | GeekZoid: | i even tried compiling gcc 3.3.4 |
| [08:31:00] | GeekZoid: | with Gcc 4.0 |
| [08:31:00] | GeekZoid: | and that didnt work out very well either |
| [08:31:00] | feld: | did you know that GCC 4.XX is a requirement for compiling programs the new OSX on Intels |
| [08:31:00] | GeekZoid: | nope didnt knwo that |
| [08:32:00] | feld: | Fedora core 4 compiles their system in gcc4 |
| [08:32:00] | GeekZoid: | my friend keeps telling me to install OS X on my computer |
| [08:32:00] | GeekZoid: | says OS X rocks on intel machiens :p |
| [08:32:00] | Skiingsean: | see thats what I thought, and MythTV runs fine on my FC4 |
| [08:32:00] | GeekZoid: | yes but they probably fixed the code.. |
| [08:32:00] | feld: | Skiingsean: but your mythtv for FC4 wasnt compiled with gcc4 was it? |
| [08:32:00] | feld: | i wonder how u find that out... hrm..... |
| [08:32:00] | Skiingsean: | feld, dunno |
| [08:33:00] | GeekZoid: | eitherway.. my gcc is giving me issues.. |
| [08:33:00] | simcop2387: | http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-view_faq.php?faqId=1#q13 check that out GeekZoid for the cat /dev/video0 test |
| [08:33:00] | Skiingsean: | yeah erm.. noob at the station here.. doan remember how to check my gcc ver |
| [08:33:00] | GeekZoid: | hmm |
| [08:33:00] | simcop2387: | GeekZoid: wait this one is better! |
| [08:33:00] | simcop2387: | http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-view_faq.php?faqId=1#q15 |
| [08:33:00] | feld: | all i know is that my gentoo mythtv rocks |
| [08:33:00] | simcop2387: | wait which does canada use NTSC or PAL? |
| [08:33:00] | feld: | canada uses NTSC |
| [08:34:00] | GeekZoid: | ya i know |
| [08:34:00] | GeekZoid: | canada uses ntsc |
| [08:34:00] | simcop2387: | ah |
| [08:34:00] | simcop2387: | i couldn't remember :) |
| [08:34:00] | feld: | im pissed tho |
| [08:34:00] | simcop2387: | feld: why/ |
| [08:34:00] | feld: | newegg specifically stated that the SB Live! i purchased was an emu10k1 |
| [08:35:00] | feld: | and its the new shitty unsupported processor |
| [08:35:00] | feld: | AND they wont let me return it. |
| [08:35:00] | feld: | right now i'm using onboard sound which is less than desirable. no sound control.... either i mute or its on. |
| [08:36:00] | feld: | so i feel like my mythtv box is not up to par |
| [08:36:00] | simcop2387: | http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto#Test_the_card another place |
| [08:36:00] | simcop2387: | feld: is it the Live 24-bit one? if so the newer alsa's have partial support (output only) i use it fine |
| [08:36:00] | feld: | u mean 10.x_rc |
| [08:37:00] | GeekZoid: | simcop2387: did u by any chacne find the cvs version of mythtv |
| [08:37:00] | GeekZoid: | i coudlnt find it on the site |
| [08:37:00] | simcop2387: | no, i'm using 0.9 |
| [08:37:00] | feld: | ok well the support is junk |
| [08:37:00] | feld: | i couldnt get any sound out of it |
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| [08:37:00] | feld: | and my mixers were missing master and PCM and more |
| [08:37:00] | feld: | all i had was like left right surrond and rear |
| [08:37:00] | hari_seldon99: | Hi |
| [08:37:00] | simcop2387: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html |
| [08:38:00] | feld: | hi hari_seldon99 |
| [08:38:00] | hari_seldon99: | Does Commercial flagging/skipping in mythtv work out well for you fine folks? |
| [08:38:00] | simcop2387: | feld: alsamixer works, but the other generally dont, you need to turn up the following |
| [08:38:00] | simcop2387: | unless your using spdif (i dunno if that works) |
| [08:38:00] | GeekZoid: | thanx |
| [08:39:00] | simcop2387: | Analog Center, Front, Rear, Side |
| [08:39:00] | simcop2387: | and that got it workign for me |
| [08:39:00] | feld: | but how do i control that |
| [08:39:00] | feld: | which one controls the volume? |
| [08:39:00] | feld: | ;) |
| [08:39:00] | feld: | besides ALL |
| [08:39:00] | feld: | lol |
| [08:39:00] | GeekZoid: | thats wierd |
| [08:40:00] | simcop2387: | depends on which port on the back you have it in, i've got mine plugged into the "center" plug so i use center |
| [08:40:00] | GeekZoid: | i didnt know there was a better thing then cvs |
| [08:40:00] | feld: | its ok my little bro has an extra emu10k1 i think so i'm gonna get it from him this weekend. |
| [08:40:00] | hari_seldon99: | Not sure if my config is wrong, but none of the commercials in my recordings seem to get skipped |
| [08:40:00] | hari_seldon99: | despite the fact that logs say that they do |
| [08:40:00] | feld: | GeekZoid: SVN is better than CVS according to some |
| [08:40:00] | hari_seldon99: | ????? |
| [08:40:00] | simcop2387: | feld: yea i've wanted an emu10k1 too but i haven't found one yet |
| [08:40:00] | feld: | simcop2387: they're awesome cuz they work so well in linux |
| [08:41:00] | simcop2387: | yea |
| [08:41:00] | simcop2387: | thats how i ended up with my live 24-bit |
| [08:41:00] | simcop2387: | my old one that rocked (it was an old Trident 4d Wave DX, AWSOME SUPPORT, only card i ever got tv audio working with bttv cards with, it burned up :() |
| [08:42:00] | simcop2387: | feld: its the CA0106 driver in alsa right? |
| [08:45:00] | hari_seldon99: | I'd be mighty grateful if somebody culd offer advice regarding my problem |
| [08:45:00] | GeekZoid: | ok |
| [08:45:00] | GeekZoid: | well im now gettijng lame.. |
| [08:45:00] | Skiingsean: | in xine wahat are the keyboard keys..... m1 and m3 and c1-c9 |
| [08:46:00] | GeekZoid: | woo hoo |
| [08:46:00] | GeekZoid: | its compiling |
| [08:47:00] | simcop2387: | hari_seldon99: is the playback config setup to automatically skip them? |
| [08:47:00] | hari_seldon99: | I think so |
| [08:47:00] | hari_seldon99: | I went to Setup---tv-settings--playback---autoskip commercials |
| [08:48:00] | GeekZoid: | how much disk space shoudl ihave available for mythtv/ |
| [08:48:00] | simcop2387: | hari_seldon99: well an easy way to make sure is to play a show, and while playing hit M to open up the recording menu and check out the commercial auto skip, also are you watching them as they record or after they are done (and commercial skip detection has finished) |
| [08:48:00] | GeekZoid: | in preperation... |
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| [08:49:00] | hari_seldon99: | I watch long after the recording is done (usually). |
| [08:49:00] | simcop2387: | ok then that wouldn't be it |
| [08:50:00] | simcop2387: | honestly i'm not sure, i'm betting some config option isn't set correctly, its working fine for me |
| [08:50:00] | hari_seldon99: | hang on, I'll try one recording now |
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| [08:50:00] | simcop2387: | ones that are currently recording won't have the commercial skip data yet |
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| [08:51:00] | simcop2387: | on my system its usually a few minutes after it finishes that mythcommflag is done |
| [08:51:00] | hari_seldon99: | oh, so mythconnflag runs after the recording is complete? |
| [08:51:00] | hari_seldon99: | mythcommflag, sorrt |
| [08:52:00] | feld: | GeekZoid: i have a 300gb hard drive with 200gb partition taking care of all show recordings. |
| [08:52:00] | simcop2387: | depends on the configuration setup, on mine the job starts immediately when the recording starts |
| [08:53:00] | hari_seldon99: | simcop: where do I check to see if that's the case for me as well? |
| [08:53:00] | simcop2387: | hari_seldon99: you'll want to check out the settings related to jobs in mythsetup under general |
| [08:53:00] | hari_seldon99: | so mythtv-setup--.general? |
| [08:54:00] | GeekZoid: | hmm |
| [08:54:00] | simcop2387: | yea |
| [08:54:00] | GeekZoid: | feld: If im not doing any recording |
| [08:54:00] | GeekZoid: | and im just watching tv |
| [08:54:00] | GeekZoid: | would 20 gigs do? |
| [08:54:00] | ** GeekZoid will get a bigger drive later on ** | |
| [08:54:00] | simcop2387: | GeekZoid: probably |
| [08:55:00] | feld: | GeekZoid: testing tonight i find that 1hr ~= 2gigs |
| [08:55:00] | simcop2387: | you could also store a show or two on there |
| [08:55:00] | GeekZoid: | feld: cool. Well it loosk like the cvs version is compiling onm y computer |
| [08:55:00] | GeekZoid: | so im quite happy |
| [08:55:00] | simcop2387: | feld: thats about what i found, i played with quality, anything lower is almost too bad |
| [08:55:00] | GeekZoid: | maybe i'll go to ebd and let it compile |
| [08:55:00] | hari_seldon99: | my screen res is a bit small, but there is a setting under Job Queue (Global) that says Start Auto-Commercial Flagging Jobs when ...(can't see the rest). That's checked, is that it? |
| [08:56:00] | simcop2387: | should be |
| [08:56:00] | simcop2387: | what about job settings such as when they can start? and how often to check, should be on the page before |
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| [08:56:00] | simcop2387: | or maybe the two before |
| [08:56:00] | hari_seldon99: | I'll look |
| [08:58:00] | hari_seldon99: | There is a "Host Specific" Job Queue before that asks "Allow Commercial Detection Jobs" and another "Allow" checkbox after that. I've got both checked |
| [09:00:00] | \Grooby\_: | hmmmm |
| [09:01:00] | \Grooby\_: | ivtv hates me |
| [09:01:00] | \Grooby\_: | :( |
| [09:02:00] | simcop2387: | hrm, should be working |
| [09:02:00] | simcop2387: | \Grooby\_: whats it doing? |
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| [09:02:00] | \Grooby\_: | i just rebuilt my box using gentoo and at this point, i modprobe ivtv and when I do ivtv-detect |
| [09:02:00] | \Grooby\_: | it segfaulted |
| [09:03:00] | hari_seldon99: | oooohhhhh |
| [09:03:00] | hari_seldon99: | Now I get it |
| [09:03:00] | hari_seldon99: | The commercial skip only works locally in application |
| [09:03:00] | hari_seldon99: | It doesn't not record the commercials |
| [09:04:00] | hari_seldon99: | but skips them as the playback approaches them |
| [09:04:00] | hari_seldon99: | I was downloading the mpegs to my pc and watching |
| [09:04:00] | hari_seldon99: | I thought it just stopped recording during commercials |
| [09:04:00] | hari_seldon99: | my misunderstanding, sorry |
| [09:05:00] | o_cee: | \Grooby\_, just modprobe ivtv and look at dmesg, you probably don't need -detect |
| [09:05:00] | \Grooby\_: | yeah..looking at it now |
| [09:05:00] | o_cee: | whatever it is supposed to do |
| [09:05:00] | \Grooby\_: | noticed it failed loading a bunch of modules |
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| [09:06:00] | o_cee: | when emerging ivtv there's alot of instructions on modules to delete in the kernel |
| [09:06:00] | hari_seldon99: | Grooby: did you build ivtv from that "emerge" thingie in Gentoo or did you compile it separately? |
| [09:06:00] | \Grooby\_: | emerge |
| [09:06:00] | hari_seldon99: | oh |
| [09:06:00] | hari_seldon99: | might wanna try the latest build in ivtv.sf.net |
| [09:06:00] | \Grooby\_: | let me emerge it again in slow-mo |
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| [09:07:00] | o_cee: | the releas ein portage works fine |
| [09:07:00] | \Grooby\_: | i have v4l enabled for hd3k |
| [09:07:00] | \Grooby\_: | i wonder if that causes problems |
| [09:07:00] | o_cee: | no |
| [09:07:00] | o_cee: | what is your problem anyway |
| [09:08:00] | \Grooby\_: | i saw the messages |
| [09:08:00] | \Grooby\_: | brb |
| [09:08:00] | \Grooby\_: | hehehe |
| [09:08:00] | \Grooby\_: | gotta backup some kernel modules |
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| [09:09:00] | hari_seldon99: | Wow a Gentoo user (legs go weak with intimidation) |
| [09:09:00] | \Grooby\_: | <--- total newbie |
| [09:09:00] | \Grooby\_: | :) |
| [09:10:00] | \Grooby\_: | lol..major irq problems |
| [09:10:00] | hari_seldon99: | why should that happen if you compiled from source? |
| [09:11:00] | \Grooby\_: | i think it's the box |
| [09:11:00] | \Grooby\_: | if I do lspci -v |
| [09:11:00] | hari_seldon99: | unless the makefile is misconfigured or ur mobo's wierd |
| [09:11:00] | \Grooby\_: | one of the card has irq of 255..never seen that before |
| [09:11:00] | hari_seldon99: | Dunno much abt IRQ's |
| [09:12:00] | hari_seldon99: | I compiled ivtv from tarball in knoppmyth, works fine |
| [09:12:00] | \Grooby\_: | i was using knoppmyth |
| [09:12:00] | \Grooby\_: | of course i was using A12 when A22 was released |
| [09:12:00] | hari_seldon99: | R5A16 for me |
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| [09:13:00] | hari_seldon99: | So what's the deal with your ivtv? Did you put it in XFree86Config-4 |
| [09:13:00] | hari_seldon99: | ? |
| [09:13:00] | \Grooby\_: | i don't use it for tv out |
| [09:13:00] | hari_seldon99: | oh |
| [09:13:00] | \Grooby\_: | just trying to get it to capture |
| [09:14:00] | hari_seldon99: | just for pvr'ing then? |
| [09:14:00] | hari_seldon99: | does it load up okay (lamod) |
| [09:14:00] | hari_seldon99: | ? |
| [09:14:00] | hari_seldon99: | lsmod, sorry |
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| [09:15:00] | \Grooby\_: | still working on it..... |
| [09:15:00] | \Grooby\_: | :) |
| [09:16:00] | hari_seldon99: | have you finished compiling ivtv? |
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| [09:31:00] | hari_seldon99: | well if you emerge ivtv and it still crashes, then what you probably wanna do is download the ovtv tarball and manually compile it. If it still doesn't work, then, as Sherlock Holmes put it, whatever's left, however improbable, must be true. Your biod/mobo's off |
| [09:31:00] | hari_seldon99: | sorry for the misspellings, I'm wasted |
| [09:34:00] | \Grooby\_: | that's cool |
| [09:35:00] | \Grooby\_: | still working on my problem..seems like i might have to forget my hd3k for now |
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| [09:36:00] | hari_seldon99: | what does "modprobe ivtv" do? |
| [09:38:00] | \Grooby\_: | loads the ivtv module |
| [09:39:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok, so it loads, what abt "ivtvctl -a"? |
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| [09:44:00] | \Grooby\_: | welp..found something on the mythtv mailing list archive |
| [09:44:00] | \Grooby\_: | seems like it has to do with tveeprom |
| [09:44:00] | \Grooby\_: | but it's close to 4am |
| [09:44:00] | \Grooby\_: | i am going to crash |
| [09:44:00] | \Grooby\_: | will work on this later |
| [09:44:00] | \Grooby\_: | cheers |
| [09:45:00] | hari_seldon99: | pip-pip |
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| [11:31:00] | laga: | http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/MythTV < nice, i haven't seen that before. |
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| [11:59:00] | juski: | laga: nice quote: "You should certainly get acquainted with linux before attempting this how-to." :D |
| [11:59:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [11:59:00] | juski: | apt-get install brain |
| [12:01:00] | laga: | darn. i opened a ticket, closed it and now it's time to open it again. i should invoke my brain before doing stuff |
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| [12:45:00] | jd86: | what would cause 291 |
| [12:45:00] | jd86: | strange error flushing buffer ... these messages |
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| [14:07:00] | juski: | is it Friday yet? |
| [14:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | Depends on what timezone you are in :) |
| [14:08:00] | jemarcks: | its only thursday here |
| [14:09:00] | juski: | feels like a friday, only I know it's not :( |
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| [14:13:00] | ** laga likes holidays ** | |
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| [14:22:00] | newevmsuser: | does anyone know if the new knoppmyth includes support for air2pc rev 0.2? |
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| [16:04:00] | \Grooby\_: | anyone here got their pvr150/350 to work with hd3k? |
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| [17:50:00] | erich141: | hi |
| [17:51:00] | erich141: | is anyone uses MythTV with two different sources simultaneously? |
| [17:51:00] | erich141: | like SAT and Cable? |
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| [17:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [17:56:00] | \Grooby\: | hd ota and cable? |
| [17:56:00] | \Grooby\: | actually i am having trouble with getting my hd3k's cx88-dvb and ivtv to work |
| [17:56:00] | \Grooby\: | anyone have experience getting both to work at the same time? |
| [17:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | Alas I have no HDTV |
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| [17:59:00] | erich141: | I have PVR-250 and using tuner0 input for cable happily for long time. But I have troubles using S-Video on the same card for sattelite using external top-box |
| [17:59:00] | AOX: | Anybody here good with DVDauthor? I have clips that I am really close to having a finished disc with. My problem is that on the DVD in a HW player, it pauses between chapter1 and chapter2 and chapter3 instead of continuing seamlessly. I've looked at the DVDauthor mailing lists and they say something about this java program called "Project X" that I might need to use for help. Can anybody help me? |
| [18:00:00] | erich141: | does anyone know if this configuration can work in principle? |
| [18:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | erich141: Ahh. I'm using multiple capture devices, but I briefly did it on a single card |
| [18:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | It will, but of course you will only be able to recording from 1 at at given time |
| [18:00:00] | erich141: | aye, I understand it. Ok thanks will play with it more then :) |
| [18:01:00] | Dagmar: | Stuff like that is why I got the PVR500 |
| [18:01:00] | erich141: | there is one thing I do not understand though – if I have overlapping channel numbers in SAT and cable, how will MythTV know which device to use? |
| [18:02:00] | Dagmar: | Now if I can just figure out how to move the second copy of MPlayer around the screen through an external script I'll have some fun stuff for Picture-in-Picture |
| [18:02:00] | Dagmar: | erich141: When you define your sources, they containn the channel lineups. |
| [18:02:00] | Beirdo: | mplayer? |
| [18:02:00] | Beirdo: | hmm? |
| [18:02:00] | Dagmar: | Beirdo: You know what facility I have to access to move windows around the screen? |
| [18:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | erich141: It internally tracks them by a channel id, not by the channel number |
| [18:02:00] | Beirdo: | what does mplayer have to do with mythtv playback? |
| [18:03:00] | Dagmar: | Mplayer is used for the stuff in the Video archive |
| [18:03:00] | Beirdo: | can be used |
| [18:03:00] | Beirdo: | but that has nothing to do with picture in picture |
| [18:03:00] | Dagmar: | ...and I'm also thinking about hacking it up so that the second display slides into the screen instead of just appearing a few seconds later |
| [18:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you configure that way which I think is the default. You can use the internal player however and keep consistant controls, OSD, etc etc |
| [18:03:00] | Beirdo: | it's not used at ALL for TV playback |
| [18:03:00] | mishehu: | Beirdo: got my ir blaster working yesterday, and I'm a much happier person now. heh. |
| [18:04:00] | Beirdo: | cool, mishehu |
| [18:04:00] | Dagmar: | The same facility I am sure needs to be accessed for both modes |
| [18:04:00] | erich141: | but when I start MythTV in "Watch TV" mode and enter "100" with remote, how does it know if it is channel 100 on SAT or cable – i.e. will it use "tuner0" or "s-video" input? |
| [18:04:00] | Beirdo: | Dagmar: well, I guess you'll have fun reading code :) |
| [18:04:00] | Dagmar: | Beirdo: I do a lot of that anyway |
| [18:04:00] | Dagmar: | It gives me something to do while waiting for binary packages to complete. |
| [18:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | erich141: Can't answer that personally, I've never had overlaps like that. My analog channels stop around ~75 and my others start around 115 and up |
| [18:05:00] | Dagmar: | ...and since I've got Qt building right now, I've got some time. ;) |
| [18:05:00] | ** Beirdo curses openssl ** | |
| [18:06:00] | Dagmar: | Heh. You don't like all the updates? |
| [18:06:00] | Beirdo: | fuck no |
| [18:06:00] | Dagmar: | ...or are you trying to use 0.9.8 (teh evil release) |
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| [18:06:00] | Beirdo: | gotta update like 20 production webservers, all of which need an apache rebuild |
| [18:07:00] | Dagmar: | Ah.... You need to make a binary release (or at least a script to do it) then |
| [18:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hahaha my Grandmother just asked me to build her a Myth box :) |
| [18:07:00] | Beirdo: | OMG |
| [18:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | She's been at my parents for the last couple days and using theirs. Now she wants one heh. I can just imagine all of the daytime soaps it's going to record |
| [18:08:00] | Beirdo: | Dagmar: can't. 4 different OS versions, several need very specific modules |
| [18:08:00] | Dagmar: | Beirdo: Still, 4 packages is better than 20 manual bulds |
| [18:08:00] | Beirdo: | it's the SAME |
| [18:08:00] | Beirdo: | and it's not much different |
| [18:09:00] | Dagmar: | For *this* time |
| [18:09:00] | Beirdo: | Solaris packages are such a PITA |
| [18:09:00] | Dagmar: | If you script it now, the next time you will have the scripts to use. |
| [18:09:00] | Dagmar: | Hey they're better than Slackware packages. |
| [18:09:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [18:09:00] | Dagmar: | I always feel bad about saying it, but it's true. |
| [18:09:00] | Beirdo: | I'm not making it easier for others |
| [18:09:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:10:00] | Beirdo: | Oh, and they have different versions of perl, so mod_perl needs rebuilding for each |
| [18:10:00] | Dagmar: | Ouch. |
| [18:10:00] | Beirdo: | and a couple need PHP too |
| [18:10:00] | Dagmar: | You have got to get that under control or it's going to run you into the ground. |
| [18:10:00] | Beirdo: | no shit |
| [18:10:00] | Beirdo: | but these are production machines |
| [18:10:00] | Beirdo: | so... |
| [18:10:00] | Dagmar: | When I was at iAsiaWorks I spent a LOT of time working up binary release scripts. |
| [18:10:00] | Beirdo: | not much I can do about this |
| [18:11:00] | Beirdo: | OK. openssl 0.9.7i for Sol 7 |
| [18:11:00] | Beirdo: | step one |
| [18:11:00] | Dagmar: | It took me about three months to get most of the stuff in sync, but after that I could push out an update to the entire freaking planet in about forty minutes--counting the time it took the things to download to Taiwan and so forth |
| [18:11:00] | Beirdo: | oh believe me, this is WAY better than it used to be |
| [18:13:00] | Dagmar: | I know I definitely want to get rid of the encoder lag on this, or at least hide it. |
| [18:13:00] | AOX: | Where's a good channel to go for help putting nuvs on a DVD disc? |
| [18:13:00] | Dagmar: | It's suboptimal that calling up the PIP display takes a second or so to actually appear |
| [18:14:00] | Dagmar: | AOX: The KnoppMyth guys have a plugin in their config that lets you do that. You might want to just get on their user list |
| [18:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | Dagmar: imho a screen should be displayed immediately with a "openning tuner" message so that the user at least sees something is happenning |
| [18:14:00] | Dagmar: | GreyFoxx: That's my thinking, too. |
| [18:15:00] | AOX: | Dagmar: I might be past that part of it already. I'm stuck with dvdauthor producing discs that pause at the end of each chapter. |
| [18:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | something similar on a channel change might be nice too. With say a moving cursor/bar/whatever to show it's not locked up |
| [18:15:00] | Dagmar: | I figured if I could hack something in to make at least a black window appear _sliding_ into the display, it would make the delay look like showboating instead of a hardware limitation |
| [18:17:00] | AOX: | Dagmar: have you used DVDauthor? |
| [18:17:00] | Dagmar: | AOX: Nope. I'm lazy. My burner came with Nero so I just use that when I need to burn a custom disc |
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| [18:18:00] | AOX: | Dagmar: in linux? |
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| [18:18:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: When does your new minion start? |
| [18:18:00] | Dagmar: | The documentation on the Linux burning stuff needs to stop sucking so much with respect to how you write the scripts that drive the DVD |
| [18:18:00] | Beirdo: | aloha, xris |
| [18:18:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: no clue, actually |
| [18:18:00] | Dagmar: | AOX: No, XP. |
| [18:18:00] | xris: | Beirdo: so tell me the story... |
| [18:18:00] | Beirdo: | which one? :) |
| [18:18:00] | xris: | of your trip |
| [18:19:00] | Krazylegz: | The story with the rum. |
| [18:19:00] | AOX: | Dagmar: on nero did you take a big mpeg and set chapter points? or many video clips each which is a chapter and make one title out of it? |
| [18:19:00] | Beirdo: | hehe, no rum |
| [18:19:00] | laga: | sad |
| [18:19:00] | Krazylegz: | Then, "why is all the rum gone?!" |
| [18:19:00] | Dagmar: | AOX: I normally do the latter, but I've done both. |
| [18:19:00] | Beirdo: | but there was a ring that went on a finger. |
| [18:19:00] | xris: | w00t |
| [18:19:00] | Beirdo: | and a house that got offered on (and accepted) |
| [18:19:00] | xris: | also w00t |
| [18:19:00] | Krazylegz: | Oooo. |
| [18:19:00] | AOX: | Dagmar: when you prepare a disc from multiple clips and use each clip as a chapter of a title.... do you get a pause between chapters? |
| [18:20:00] | xris: | and apparently a notice being served to an employer. |
| [18:20:00] | Beirdo: | pretty much |
| [18:20:00] | Beirdo: | although I'm contracting |
| [18:20:00] | Beirdo: | so it's more like "I think I'll be gone in a few months" |
| [18:20:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:20:00] | xris: | heh |
| [18:20:00] | Dagmar: | AOX: Yes. I suspect that's something that can't be gotten around. It's worth noting that I've never seen a commercial DVD that used multiple files for that |
| [18:20:00] | xris: | well congratz |
| [18:20:00] | Beirdo: | thanks |
| [18:21:00] | Beirdo: | and holy HELL does her mom have a large family |
| [18:21:00] | Dagmar: | Catholic? |
| [18:21:00] | Krazylegz: | Congratulations inded. |
| [18:21:00] | Krazylegz: | Puerto Rican! |
| [18:21:00] | Beirdo: | her mom was. isn't now |
| [18:21:00] | Beirdo: | nor am I |
| [18:21:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh. |
| [18:21:00] | Beirdo: | very much protestant, and in the minority down there |
| [18:21:00] | Dagmar: | That could explain it right there |
| [18:22:00] | AOX: | Dagmar: in the dvdauthor TODO file in /usr/share/documentation... it says. . provide a full example case on the website, buttons, menus, multiple chapters without pauses, etc. so I figured at least someone knows howto do it. |
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| [18:22:00] | Dagmar: | AOX: See if they've got a mailing list |
| [18:23:00] | AOX: | Dagmar: they do... and they mention some program called "Project X" which Java and not in portage right now. I haven't tried it yet as I want a little guidance. |
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| [18:24:00] | Dagmar: | Yeah, but you could ask on the mailing list if someone could give you a hint on how to make the DVD play multiple chapters without pausing. |
| [18:24:00] | Dagmar: | It's probably something rather minor and equally obscure |
| [18:24:00] | AOX: | Dagmar: you're right. I should send them a note. |
| [18:25:00] | Dagmar: | Be sure and send a thank you if you get any answer at all |
| [18:25:00] | AOX: | Dagmar: of course |
| [18:26:00] | AOX: | Dagmar: thanks for you help by the way. ;) |
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| [18:31:00] | a1fa: | any cheap cards that can do tv-out and coax in |
| [18:32:00] | Dagmar: | The PVR-350 has TV-out |
| [18:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | Not very "cheap" though |
| [18:32:00] | a1fa: | it is also a 150 bux |
| [18:32:00] | a1fa: | :P |
| [18:32:00] | Dagmar: | You're not in the US? |
| [18:32:00] | a1fa: | i am |
| [18:32:00] | a1fa: | where r u? |
| [18:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's cheaper to buy a low end nvidia video card and a pvr150 |
| [18:32:00] | Dagmar: | www.pricewatch.com. You can get it for way less than that. |
| [18:33:00] | Dagmar: | I only paid $138 for my PVR-500 |
| [18:33:00] | laga: | darn, i've got some spare money and can't decide wether i should get the pvr 150 mce or the normal one. i've already got a 250 with a remote. |
| [18:33:00] | a1fa: | GreyFoxx : that sounds like an option |
| [18:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | a1fa: It's also the most "Flexible" option |
| [18:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | though with the new xv support for the 350's that's less of a concern than it use to be |
| [18:33:00] | a1fa: | does this remote work with mythtv? |
| [18:33:00] | a1fa: | pvr150 |
| [18:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | a1fa: It works with lirc, and myth works with lirc |
| [18:34:00] | Dagmar: | It's more a matter of if it works with lirc |
| [18:34:00] | a1fa: | cool |
| [18:34:00] | a1fa: | all in wonder radeon supported? |
| [18:34:00] | a1fa: | it has tv-out and tv-in |
| [18:34:00] | a1fa: | ? |
| [18:35:00] | Beirdo: | did you read the FM? |
| [18:35:00] | Dagmar: | It's not supported. |
| [18:35:00] | a1fa: | sucks.. radeon sucks anyway |
| [18:35:00] | Dagmar: | No one can reverse engineer it and they're not releasing the specs |
| [18:35:00] | Beirdo: | very explicitly not supported due to no working Linux drivers |
| [18:35:00] | Dagmar: | ...but chin up. Even some of the nVidia TNT2 cards have S-video output |
| [18:35:00] | a1fa: | i got my AiW Pro working on linux tho |
| [18:35:00] | Dagmar: | Those you can get for like $20 |
| [18:36:00] | a1fa: | yeah.. i am getting those :P |
| [18:36:00] | Beirdo: | you can likely get the output part working |
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| [18:36:00] | Dagmar: | An nVidia card with s-video output is the easiest thing to get working |
| [18:36:00] | a1fa: | nVidia TNT2 Vanta 16MB AGP Video Card |
| [18:36:00] | a1fa: | Part # MS-8830-BULK-N |
| [18:36:00] | a1fa: | New |
| [18:36:00] | a1fa: | $9.99 |
| [18:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | a1fa: If you are using the Gatos drivers it wont help you unless they have finally made them vl compliant |
| [18:36:00] | a1fa: | no video out tho |
| [18:36:00] | Beirdo: | the Radeon > 8500 cards all work OK with the ATI drivers |
| [18:36:00] | Beirdo: | but the capture part won't until they fix the f'ing drivers :) |
| [18:36:00] | Dagmar: | a1fa: The Vantas are very stripped down is why |
| [18:36:00] | Dagmar: | a1fa: Look for a TNT2 M64. |
| [18:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | For some reason I thought the support for TNT2 cards was removed from the nvidia drivers recently |
| [18:37:00] | ** GreyFoxx goes back to look ** | |
| [18:37:00] | Dagmar: | ooof |
| [18:37:00] | a1fa: | k |
| [18:37:00] | Dagmar: | You're right, it might have been |
| [18:37:00] | a1fa: | so tnt2 wouldnt work? |
| [18:37:00] | a1fa: | ;( |
| [18:37:00] | Dagmar: | Still, you could use the 6xxx drivers or maybe the 7176 |
| [18:38:00] | Dagmar: | a1fa: Maybe look for one of the low-end GeForce FX cards. |
| [18:38:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, time for me to have lunc |
| [18:38:00] | a1fa: | later |
| [18:38:00] | a1fa: | i am hitting rally's |
| [18:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | It would be pre 7000, and those have issues compiling under more recent kernels |
| [18:39:00] | a1fa: | hm.. i dont want any issues ... hahaha |
| [18:39:00] | ** GreyFoxx ponders food ** | |
| [18:40:00] | laga: | a1fa: get a fx 5200 then, or a geforce 4 mx |
| [18:40:00] | a1fa: | Sapphire Radeon 7000 AGP 4X 32MB DDR Video Card w/TV-Out ***Free 2nd Day*** |
| [18:40:00] | a1fa: | $29.99 |
| [18:40:00] | a1fa: | this might work under radeon driver, wouldnt it? |
| [18:41:00] | a1fa: | ah.. screw it.. i got an idea.. i am going to buy that PVR-500 |
| [18:41:00] | a1fa: | it comes with a remote, doesnt it? |
| [18:42:00] | Dagmar: | a1fa: Go to www.pricewatch.com and punch "geforce tv-out" into the search box. |
| [18:43:00] | Dagmar: | 3btech.net apparently has something that looks like it would work for $17.99 |
| [18:43:00] | Dagmar: | It's a GeForce MX with 32Mb of RAM, but it's not like you're going to be needing a ton of memory on the thing |
| [18:44:00] | a1fa: | i hear pvr-500 will be illegal next year |
| [18:44:00] | a1fa: | true? |
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| [18:47:00] | Ryushin: | alfa: Where did you hear that? |
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| [18:47:00] | a1fa: | the guy in the cube over |
| [18:47:00] | Ryushin: | The HD cards may be changed to comply with the broadcast flag if it passes. |
| [18:48:00] | Dagmar: | a1fa: He's misinformed you |
| [18:48:00] | a1fa: | kewl |
| [18:48:00] | a1fa: | :P |
| [18:48:00] | a1fa: | he is full of shit |
| [18:48:00] | Dagmar: | I don't think the broadcast flag is going to pass |
| [18:48:00] | Ryushin: | Dagmar: I don't know. They are trying to sneak it in again. |
| [18:48:00] | Dagmar: | There was a big rush on the cards during June while the FCC contemplated the issue, and then they basically decided it wasn't their jurisdiction and that they woulnd't require the broadcast flag even if it was |
| [18:48:00] | Ryushin: | I sure hope not. |
| [18:48:00] | Dagmar: | ...so they'll have little success continuing to pester the FCC about it |
| [18:48:00] | a1fa: | i am going to buy PVR-500 |
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| [18:49:00] | a1fa: | it comes w/ remote? |
| [18:49:00] | Dagmar: | nope |
| [18:49:00] | a1fa: | god damn it :P |
| [18:49:00] | a1fa: | what comes w/ remote? |
| [18:50:00] | Dagmar: | Anything that's not MCE |
| [18:50:00] | Dagmar: | ...but basically you don't _have_ to get a remote with it |
| [18:50:00] | a1fa: | i want a remote :P |
| [18:50:00] | kormoc: | feld, you around? |
| [18:50:00] | Dagmar: | I got my remote from Wal-mart for $12. |
| [18:50:00] | a1fa: | which one? |
| [18:50:00] | a1fa: | did you build irman your self? |
| [18:50:00] | Dagmar: | I already had a serial dongle left over from the incredibly broken AST/Logitech remote I had |
| [18:51:00] | a1fa: | heheh :( |
| [18:51:00] | Dagmar: | It's not even hard to make a serial reciever if you can use a soldering pencil without burning yourself, but then you can buy the things for about $12 from a BUNCH of different people |
| [18:51:00] | Krazylegz: | Man. My best friend's girlfriend's mom just bought ~$14k worth of A/V stuff. |
| [18:51:00] | a1fa: | http://www.macmall.com/macmall/shop/detail.as . . . d=mwbfroogle |
| [18:52:00] | a1fa: | will this one work? |
| [18:52:00] | sphing: | Krazylegz: thats a hell of a connection |
| [18:52:00] | a1fa: | PVR-150 will work? |
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| [18:52:00] | Dagmar: | Yeah, but that's $112. |
| [18:53:00] | Dagmar: | $26 more gets you the functionality of two of those |
| [18:53:00] | Dagmar: | ...minus the remote |
| [18:53:00] | Krazylegz: | sphing: She bought identical setups for two rooms. |
| [18:53:00] | sphing: | no i meants its like 3 people away |
| [18:53:00] | kormoc: | Krazylegz, get to know her and arrange a movie night! |
| [18:54:00] | Krazylegz: | Had one last night. |
| [18:54:00] | a1fa: | yeah, but where do i get the remote |
| [18:54:00] | a1fa: | i dont have ir reciever |
| [18:54:00] | Dagmar: | Anywhere |
| [18:54:00] | Krazylegz: | Unfortunately, she and her daughter are not audio/videophiles. The center speaker is 5' down and 7' left of the center of the 50" plasma. |
| [18:54:00] | Krazylegz: | Makes for some odd voices. |
| [18:54:00] | Dagmar: | There's a link somewhere int he Lirc docs to some specs for one you can build, as well as mentioning the fact that the guy *sells* the things |
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| [18:55:00] | a1fa: | ok |
| [18:55:00] | a1fa: | i found PVR-150 for $80 with remote? |
| [18:55:00] | a1fa: | scam? |
| [18:55:00] | Dagmar: | That guy is actually selling them normally as well as keeping one listed on eBay at all times just to make them easier to find |
| [18:55:00] | Dagmar: | a1fa: Comp-U-Plus? |
| [18:56:00] | fryfrog: | ahha, 5" or 5'? |
| [18:56:00] | a1fa: | nah |
| [18:57:00] | Dagmar: | Just remember if you get just a single tuner, you're going to be stuck watching what you record |
| [18:57:00] | Dagmar: | If you get two tuners, you can just watch whatever you want and let the recorder deal with recording without interrupting you |
| [18:57:00] | a1fa: | you are right ;( |
| [18:57:00] | erich141: | does anyone know any GUI program on Linux which would allow you to cut *.nuv MPEG2 files? |
| [18:57:00] | Dagmar: | The thing I'm liking the most is that there are no conflicts with two programs that are back to back, when I've got the recordings starting and ending two minutes early/late |
| [18:58:00] | a1fa: | MCI version works on linux? |
| [18:58:00] | Dagmar: | erich141: Keno maybe |
| [18:58:00] | Dagmar: | a1fa: You mean MCE? |
| [18:58:00] | a1fa: | yeah.. sorry |
| [18:58:00] | a1fa: | http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?SCriteria=3625260 |
| [18:58:00] | a1fa: | $130 |
| [18:58:00] | Dagmar: | a1fa: All the MCE means is no remote, and no Windows software (although you do usually get Windows MCE drivers) |
| [18:58:00] | otwin: | a1fa: you can get a ir receiver from here http://lnx.manoweb.com/lirc/ – he will build you one for a reasonable price. and they work great, from every angle and distance – almost... |
| [18:58:00] | a1fa: | kewl |
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| [19:00:00] | a1fa: | i am just going to use the wireless mouse :P |
| [19:00:00] | a1fa: | to move around channels :P |
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| [19:00:00] | a1fa: | it would be funny as shit |
| [19:00:00] | erich141: | Dagmar: do you have a link for Keno? Google returns junks |
| [19:02:00] | Dagmar: | Ooof. I misspelled it. Its' Kino, and it's been morphed into something else now: http://mlt.sourceforge.net/ |
| [19:02:00] | Dagmar: | There's also somethign called Cinellera I need to look into |
| [19:03:00] | Dagmar: | Cinellera looked pretty slick the last time I peeked at it |
| [19:03:00] | Dagmar: | http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3 |
| [19:04:00] | Dagmar: | The Cinelerra guys are also incurable smart-asses, which is something I respect |
| [19:04:00] | a1fa: | ok |
| [19:05:00] | a1fa: | i am getting PVR-500 |
| [19:05:00] | a1fa: | for $130 |
| [19:05:00] | Dagmar: | Cool. Less than I paid even |
| [19:05:00] | a1fa: | that will be sufficient |
| [19:05:00] | Dagmar: | I figure mine will last me until 640i is dead |
| [19:05:00] | a1fa: | i like the idea of two imputs.. i might buy two of them |
| [19:05:00] | a1fa: | so i get 4 imputs :P |
| [19:05:00] | a1fa: | just to be geeky |
| [19:05:00] | Dagmar: | Heh. Give it a while until you've gotten used to two. You may find you don't need the third and fourth tuners |
| [19:05:00] | a1fa: | k |
| [19:06:00] | Beirdo: | I have 3 tuners and it's not enough for me :) |
| [19:06:00] | Dagmar: | The worst that can happen is you save some $$$ on your second card by holding off for a few months |
| [19:06:00] | a1fa: | i need to find a good wireless 802.11b pci supported on linux |
| [19:06:00] | Dagmar: | Anything but Broadcom |
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| [19:08:00] | _Geekzoid: | hi |
| [19:08:00] | _Geekzoid: | Can MythTV bypass copyright protection on dvds? |
| [19:08:00] | _Geekzoid: | so I can make backups of my dvds? |
| [19:08:00] | Dagmar: | Nope |
| [19:08:00] | _Geekzoid: | darn |
| [19:08:00] | _Geekzoid: | :) |
| [19:09:00] | Dagmar: | You don't need to decrypt a DVD to make a backup of it anyway |
| [19:09:00] | a1fa: | Motorola WPCI810G 802.11g? compatible? |
| [19:09:00] | Dagmar: | Just buy a DL DVD recorder |
| [19:09:00] | _Geekzoid: | well you do if you dont have dual layer.. |
| [19:09:00] | Dagmar: | a1fa: Probably so |
| [19:09:00] | _Geekzoid: | oh but i dont wanna buy dual layer dvds.. |
| [19:09:00] | a1fa: | hm.. sucks :( |
| [19:09:00] | a1fa: | it was only $19 |
| [19:09:00] | _Geekzoid: | :p |
| [19:09:00] | Dagmar: | GeekZoid: Then look for DVD X-Copy somewhere/somehow |
| [19:09:00] | Dagmar: | It's not Linux software tho |
| [19:09:00] | laga: | _Geekzoid: we don't want any talk about this kind of stuff in here |
| [19:09:00] | _Geekzoid: | oh sorry |
| [19:10:00] | a1fa: | not compatible? |
| [19:10:00] | _Geekzoid: | but it mentions that MythTV has a dvd ripper :) |
| [19:10:00] | ** a1fa jumps into wireless ** | |
| [19:10:00] | ** _Geekzoid changes the topic though ** | |
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| [19:10:00] | laga: | _Geekzoid: for un-encrypted DVDs. you need libdvdcss to decrypt CSS encrypted DVds which is kind of illegal. |
| [19:10:00] | laga: | in most parts of the world, i mean |
| [19:10:00] | Dagmar: | a1fa: Most of the time the cards will just work, but I suggest looking in the 2.6. kernel's make menuconfig at what drivers are there and use that as a shopping list |
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| [19:14:00] | _Geekzoid: | another quixk questoin |
| [19:14:00] | _Geekzoid: | will MythTV ever support ATi All in wonder cards? |
| [19:14:00] | a1fa: | nop |
| [19:14:00] | _Geekzoid: | why not :( |
| [19:15:00] | _Geekzoid: | too hard to program? |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | it will support it just as soon as someone writes working V4L compliant drivers for it |
| [19:15:00] | _Geekzoid: | hmm |
| [19:15:00] | ** _Geekzoid thinks his x600 card is pretty much useless then :) ** | |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | you can use the output part |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | use the ATI binary drivers |
| [19:16:00] | _Geekzoid: | yes. i got those.. |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | but you can't use the capture |
| [19:16:00] | _Geekzoid: | capture = tv right? |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [19:17:00] | _Geekzoid: | the WinTV PVR-150 is a pretty nice tv tuner :) |
| [19:21:00] | Krazylegz: | a1fa: I use the Linksys WMP55AG. |
| [19:25:00] | feld: | kormoc: yes i'm here |
| [19:25:00] | kormoc: | feld, still need help with the mythtv stuff? |
| [19:26:00] | feld: | kormoc: maybe |
| [19:27:00] | kormoc: | didja get it working and all that? |
| [19:27:00] | feld: | last night i totally purged my system of mysql5 |
| [19:27:00] | feld: | then i recompiled everything with mysql flag to use mysql4 |
| [19:27:00] | feld: | and it WORKED! |
| [19:27:00] | kormoc: | yay! that's good news |
| [19:27:00] | feld: | but now i have another problem — somewhat of an annoyance. |
| [19:27:00] | kormoc: | ooh? |
| [19:27:00] | feld: | why do my first few channels have terrible distortion? |
| [19:27:00] | feld: | any way to fix that? |
| [19:28:00] | ** _Geekzoid had to download the CVS version.. in order to use suse.. ** | |
| [19:28:00] | _Geekzoid: | 10 |
| [19:28:00] | kormoc: | you would need to fidle with the cable line going into the computer |
| [19:28:00] | feld: | its coming out of the wall and into a 4 way splitter |
| [19:28:00] | laga: | GeekZoid: suse uses gcc 4.x, right? |
| [19:28:00] | feld: | goes into my cable modem, mythtv, and straight into the TV |
| [19:28:00] | _Geekzoid: | yup |
| [19:28:00] | kormoc: | the spliter could be causing it, might want to try wall to comptuer and see if it has any issues |
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| [19:28:00] | feld: | kormoc: tried that too |
| [19:28:00] | kormoc: | same? |
| [19:29:00] | feld: | wait |
| [19:29:00] | feld: | ... maybe i didnt? |
| [19:29:00] | GeekZoid_: | i hope theres no bug sin my version |
| [19:29:00] | feld: | i think i did a straight into the wall when i wasnt getting ANY signal |
| [19:29:00] | feld: | maybe i'll check that again.... |
| [19:29:00] | feld: | otherwise its working great and my GF is already planning on destroying the hard drive by recording everything in sight. she already has 4 shows recorded lol |
| [19:30:00] | feld: | ;) |
| [19:30:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [19:30:00] | feld: | its working so well though. i really like it. |
| [19:31:00] | feld: | if i can just get those channels fixed i'll be happy as can be (besides the fact that i have to tweak the remote and get it to work with the video player and dvd player) |
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| [19:32:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [19:33:00] | kormoc: | if the signal from the wall is screwy, you'll have to look at replacing the cable from the wall to where the cable enters the house |
| [19:33:00] | kormoc: | if it's not, the spliter might be causing it |
| [19:33:00] | feld: | kormoc: its an apartment |
| [19:33:00] | feld: | and the signal is PERFECT through the TV |
| [19:33:00] | feld: | if i go mythtv-> tv the signal for the first few channels is bad |
| [19:33:00] | kormoc: | might jsut be the cable wire isn't good? |
| [19:33:00] | kormoc: | from the spliter to the computer |
| [19:34:00] | feld: | i'll look at swapping it with the one that is going straight to the TV |
| [19:34:00] | feld: | see if that fixes it. |
| [19:34:00] | feld: | otherwise i'm literally in love with this toy. best money i ever spent ;) |
| [19:35:00] | Krazylegz: | feld: Which channels give you static? |
| [19:35:00] | feld: | like 3–6 |
| [19:35:00] | feld: | its so distorted and blurry |
| [19:35:00] | Krazylegz: | Hmm. I have static in channels 62–78 or so. |
| [19:35:00] | feld: | those are fine for me i believe |
| [19:36:00] | kormoc: | I have static in <12 and 68–78 or so |
| [19:36:00] | feld: | its a bummer because channel 5 i believe is where i have the new Family Guy shows on and i want to record it but the quality is so crap it would be a waste. |
| [19:37:00] | kormoc: | cartoon network also runs new family guy shows one week later then fox |
| [19:38:00] | feld: | kormoc: yeah i was thinking of doing that too |
| [19:38:00] | feld: | i think i have family guy set to record like 1AM on CN |
| [19:39:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, I miss Cartoon network, Speed and HGTV in there. |
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| [19:41:00] | feld: | Krazylegz: ouch! |
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| [19:42:00] | Krazylegz: | I know. It's like 3 of my favorite channels. |
| [19:42:00] | feld: | 13430 feld 15 0 125m 43m 25m S 10.3 8.6 5:06.73 mythfrontend |
| [19:42:00] | feld: | 10.3 % of CPU |
| [19:42:00] | Krazylegz: | I've tried moving the cable all over the house. I'm fairly sure that it has to be a software problem. |
| [19:42:00] | feld: | ;) |
| [19:42:00] | feld: | 13567 root 32 17 59796 26m 9240 S 8.6 5.2 0:59.54 mythcommflag |
| [19:42:00] | feld: | 8.6 % of CPU |
| [19:42:00] | \Grooby\: | anyone here have experience with HD3K's cx88-dvb module and IVTV 4.0? |
| [19:42:00] | feld: | and thats basically all |
| [19:42:00] | \Grooby\: | seems like there's a conflict with tveeprom? |
| [19:43:00] | \Grooby\: | i can not get ivtv to load properly |
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| [19:44:00] | feld: | on my mythtv box i run backend, frontend, Samba, Gnome as the gui (nothing running on it; i use the built in VNC for administration), ssh, mpd-svn for music streaming, icecast for streaming it over the network/internet, apache + phpmp for managing it over the web page, and apache + mythweb for managing shows on the network. ;) |
| [19:45:00] | feld: | its on an amdxp 3000+ 333fsb w/ 512mb pc 2700 |
| [19:46:00] | erich141: | just found on my an old (year 2000) ATI card based on BT787A, does anyone know if picture quality should be any good? |
| [19:46:00] | erich141: | compared to PVR 250 |
| [19:46:00] | Beirdo: | not nearly as good |
| [19:46:00] | Beirdo: | but it's better than nothing |
| [19:47:00] | erich141: | was thinking about using this ATI as a second card for SAT, but if picture is no good, I will rather use another input on PVR250 |
| [19:50:00] | Beirdo: | try it and see if you like it |
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| [20:11:00] | feld: | OMG WHOOOHOOOOOOOO! |
| [20:11:00] | feld: | kormoc: the new cable FIXED IT! |
| [20:12:00] | SqWaw: | Hey, |
| [20:12:00] | kormoc: | yay! |
| [20:12:00] | feld: | perfect quality on all the channels now |
| [20:12:00] | feld: | YES!!!!!! |
| [20:12:00] | ** feld dances for joy ** | |
| [20:12:00] | SqWaw: | I have the optimize_mythbd.pl script and when I run it, it ouputs loads of errors to the screen |
| [20:12:00] | feld: | and the cable i replaced it with is not nearly as good of quality from the looks of it |
| [20:13:00] | SqWaw: | http://pastebin.ca/26842 |
| [20:13:00] | feld: | its a really thin flimsy push on cable that i had in a package that came with a cheap set of bunny ears ;) |
| [20:13:00] | feld: | i'm so happy. |
| [20:13:00] | ** feld goes to set some new recordings ** | |
| [20:17:00] | ** a1fa is sad ** | |
| [20:17:00] | a1fa: | i cant find a usb or pci 80211b |
| [20:17:00] | a1fa: | :( |
| [20:26:00] | SqWaw: | I have the optimize_mythbd.pl script and when I run it, it ouputs loads of errors to the screen... like: http://pastebin.ca/26842 |
| [20:27:00] | kormoc: | old version of perl? |
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| [20:28:00] | Skiingsean: | hey all... |
| [20:29:00] | Skiingsean: | quick question being new to Myth and all,, when some1 turns an Xbox into a FE you officially decomision it as an XBox correct? Or are you able to keep the partition structure (lets say if you got a bigger drive) and still work as a Myth FE |
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| [20:41:00] | whyz: | i'd like some enlightenment on a few questions.. are there any movie apps that use the fact that cards like the pvr-350 have an mpeg2 decoder? |
| [20:42:00] | whyz: | i mean, it shouldn't be that hard.. just dd if=film.bin of=/dev/video16 works just fine.. sort of :P |
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| [20:48:00] | erich141: | is hardware mpeg2 decoder really useful? I mean any Pentium II should be able to decode without dropped frames |
| [20:48:00] | Dagmar: | I dont' see it as being particualrly useful unless you're very short on CPU power |
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| [20:49:00] | whyz: | why not use it if it's available? |
| [20:49:00] | whyz: | no problems with tearing on the screen etc |
| [20:50:00] | Dagmar: | Use one and see |
| [20:50:00] | whyz: | i just did |
| [20:51:00] | Krazylegz: | whyz: It's fine if you're always playing MPEG2 content, but I didn't want to use it for Myth because the menus, etc were more difficult. |
| [20:52:00] | SqWaw: | kor: what version do i need? |
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| [20:56:00] | whyz: | actually, i'd find it very useful if mplayer of vlc or anything could throw the data directly to the mpeg2 decoder.. as it is now, i'm using a second X session for mythtv (and vlc/mplayer), which is rather bad, because i must have the second X "activated" for it to show something.. so :0.0 goes black while i watch tv |
| [20:59:00] | Dagmar: | God I hate qt build files |
| [20:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | whyz: mplayer has a mpeg output mode which dumps to a mpg file, and you can specify the file name, so maybe you can convert/dump directlty to the 350's decoder |
| [20:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't have a 350 around for testing anymore to try it |
| [20:59:00] | whyz: | GreyFoxx, yeah, i was just thinking the same thing.. poking around in vlc for the same thing right now |
| [20:59:00] | Dagmar: | Yep. that's gotta be useful--reencoding as mpeg2 just to use a hardware decoder |
| [21:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [21:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
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| [21:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | use all of your cpu just to save on cpu :) |
| [21:00:00] | Dagmar: | Here I thought qt was a bitch to package |
| [21:00:00] | Dagmar: | ...until I tried to work with the makefiles in MythTV |
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| [21:04:00] | a1fa: | will some1 recomend a good remote? |
| [21:05:00] | Dagmar: | One For All URC 6131 |
| [21:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | I found it quite simple to make packages of myth |
| [21:05:00] | Dagmar: | GreyFoxx: Exactly what magic invocation did you use to get it to put the binaries somewhere otehr than the live filesystem? |
| [21:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | I didn't |
| [21:06:00] | a1fa: | wow |
| [21:06:00] | a1fa: | this is nice |
| [21:06:00] | a1fa: | does it come with serial ird? |
| [21:06:00] | Dagmar: | INSTALL_ROOT=/tmp/foo/`pwd`/usr/usr/ gets me CLOSE but some files are still winding up in the wrong places |
| [21:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | I installed them on the live system, and pulled in the binaries from there. |
| [21:06:00] | Dagmar: | GreyFoxx: Okay then you were working with a polluted build environment. I don't do that |
| [21:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | Define polluted |
| [21:06:00] | Dagmar: | Most of the time I keep /usr mounted read-only when I'm building, just to be sure. |
| [21:07:00] | Dagmar: | Once they get the overlay fs working properly again, I'm going to go back to using a union mount to detect anything that gets thrown in the live filesystem by accident |
| [21:07:00] | a1fa: | i need ir |
| [21:07:00] | Dagmar: | GreyFoxx: When you are making a binary package, it should *not* actually modify the host operating system files at all. |
| [21:07:00] | a1fa: | Dagmar : what reciever should i get ?: |
| [21:07:00] | Dagmar: | a1fa: Any serial dongle will work with that |
| [21:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | Dagmar: In your definition. |
| [21:08:00] | Dagmar: | GreyFoxx: No, actually that's a best practice. |
| [21:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | And generally I would agree |
| [21:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | Again "best practice" is an opinion, even if it's a commonly held one |
| [21:08:00] | a1fa: | hehe |
| [21:08:00] | a1fa: | LO |
| [21:08:00] | Dagmar: | You can't very well cross-compile binary packages if you let the things pollute your build environment, either. |
| [21:08:00] | a1fa: | loool |
| [21:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | Who said anything about cross compiling? I certainly didn''t |
| [21:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | Of course that would be a different ball of wax |
| [21:09:00] | Dagmar: | Yeah, well, I tend to follow best practices, especially when they coincide with what I've learned through the pain and suffering of trying to just slap things into working |
| [21:09:00] | Dagmar: | You may note that pretty much every linux distro's rpm/deb/pkg scripts use an isolated build root. |
| [21:10:00] | Dagmar: | ...even Slackware, with one or two particularly evil exceptions. |
| [21:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | make install; find /usr -mtime -1 -type f > filelist; mkdir mythstuff; cat filelist | awk '{print "cp --parents " $1 " ./mythstuff/" }' ; makepkg mythstuff |
| [21:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | Obviously it's ugly |
| [21:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | but it was easy and worked without any problem :) |
| [21:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | though I think that line would need some tweaking to work |
| [21:11:00] | Dagmar: | Yeah, I think I'm just going to walk through the directories and use the install binary to move the relevant files. |
| [21:11:00] | Dagmar: | Thank god the makefiles don't try to compile anything more during the install phase. |
| [21:12:00] | a1fa: | ;( |
| [21:13:00] | Dagmar: | YAY http://forevermore.net/files/mythtv_misc/mythtv.spec |
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| [21:13:00] | a1fa: | Dagmar : loo |
| [21:14:00] | Dagmar: | That spec file has a setting for the qmake stuff i didn't know about that is supposed to eliminate that ../../../../../../.. madness that shows up in the Makefiles. |
| [21:14:00] | Dagmar: | Now to see if it works as advertised |
| [21:14:00] | ** GreyFoxx ponders dropping the indexes on this table until his updates are done ** | |
| [21:15:00] | Dagmar: | This may seem like I'm just crazy, but there's bound to be at least 100 or so Dropline users with tuner cards |
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| [21:15:00] | Dagmar: | Oh sweeeet it really does work |
| [21:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | I can only imagine :) |
| [21:16:00] | rep2: | i am trying to use mythtv-plugins on my ubuntu amd64 box using 0.18.1, however i need to compile them manually, but i can't get it to work. Does anyone have/can someone point me in the direction of a precompiled package? |
| [21:16:00] | Dagmar: | rep2: How's it failing to build? |
| [21:17:00] | rep2: | says something about a package lib-exif-dev – i don't have the latest version |
| [21:18:00] | rep2: | but i can't get the required version for ubuntu-amd64 |
| [21:18:00] | Dagmar: | You should be able to build that package on amd64 without a huge problem |
| [21:18:00] | Dagmar: | libexif is not that complex |
| [21:21:00] | rep2: | can i paste in here? |
| [21:21:00] | Dagmar: | Use pastebin.com |
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| [21:23:00] | whyz: | heh |
| [21:23:00] | whyz: | this works nice.. |
| [21:23:00] | rep2: | this is what i get: http://pastebin.com/408092 |
| [21:23:00] | whyz: | mplayer file -dumpstream -dumpfile /dev/video16 |
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| [21:23:00] | whyz: | awii |
| [21:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | There, adding a couple indexes finished in 2 minutes what previously took 2 hours. |
| [21:24:00] | ** GreyFoxx smacks his own hand for not adding them before ** | |
| [21:25:00] | Dagmar: | rep2: Ask in your distribution's channel for help in building your own package for libexif. THEN you'll have the dependency you need. |
| [21:26:00] | rep2: | cheers |
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| [21:56:00] | Skiingsean: | when unzipping zips in linux i keep getting caution filename not matched.. is there a way around this unzip --help doenst help :/ |
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| [22:05:00] | Kaetzchen: | Is the 'which video capture card is best' debate as inflammatory as PC vs. Mac, Apple ][ vs. Commodore 64, Borg Cube vs. Death Star debates? |
| [22:05:00] | Dagmar: | Nope. |
| [22:05:00] | Dagmar: | Most of us are just happy when the damn things work. |
| [22:06:00] | Dagmar: | Granted, it also helps that the company that makes the most tuner cards is almost the ONLY company that makes them. i.e., Hauppage. |
| [22:06:00] | Dagmar: | So long as they continue to make really good cards, no one's going to be much willing to argue about it |
| [22:09:00] | Kaetzchen: | yeah, I'm looking at Hauppage stuff, I just didn't want to ask for suggestions if it would start a big thing |
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| [22:10:00] | Kaetzchen: | Would 2 dual tuner cards work OK in one box, is what I was wondering |
| [22:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you are referring to the pvr500's then it should work |
| [22:11:00] | Kaetzchen: | not that I want to record 4 shows, I'd like a couple minutes before/after each show, to be sure to get the whole thing |
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| [22:12:00] | Kaetzchen: | how about HDTV? hauppage make anything for that? (us standards)? |
| [22:12:00] | EvilBob: | I really like MythTV but someone mentioned Freevo again the other day, does it compare? |
| [22:12:00] | Dagmar: | Yes, they make the HD-2000 and the HD-3000 |
| [22:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kaetzchen: no hdtv on the pvr cards |
| [22:13:00] | Dagmar: | The GOOD news is that you probably don't even need them |
| [22:13:00] | Dagmar: | If you have a digital cable box, by government decree there is supposed to be a firewire port on it that you can use in lieu of any kind of tuner |
| [22:14:00] | Dagmar: | Just be warned that I've had several people tell me you must have a beefy CPU because what comes out that baby is VERY high definition |
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| [22:15:00] | Kaetzchen: | currently no cable box, a while back we went to basic cable + a Replay TV, and I bought a pair of MediaMVP's a few weeks ago |
| [22:17:00] | Dagmar: | Ahhh you have a Replay? You don't quite need MythTV then |
| [22:17:00] | Dagmar: | You've seen the Java software for it, right? |
| [22:18:00] | Dagmar: | Kaetzchen: Please be to going to http://www.dvarchive.org with full worshipfulness |
| [22:19:00] | Dagmar: | That program is PIMP. |
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| [22:24:00] | GeekZoid_: | i have a question.. why is it that people reverse engineer WINTV cards |
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| [22:24:00] | GeekZoid_: | but not ATI cards.. |
| [22:24:00] | GeekZoid_: | is it cuz ati cards suck or are they hard to reverse eingeer? |
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| [22:26:00] | Dagmar: | No one had to reverse engineer the WinTV cards. |
| [22:26:00] | Dagmar: | They're almost all Brooktree chipset cards, which have a very published interface |
| [22:26:00] | GeekZoid: | really |
| [22:27:00] | GeekZoid: | the PRV-150 says it was reverse engineered |
| [22:27:00] | GeekZoid: | or something |
| [22:27:00] | GeekZoid: | in a table maybe i read it wrong |
| [22:27:00] | Dagmar: | Usually when someone says "WinTV" they're talking about the non PVR versions. |
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| [22:28:00] | Dagmar: | Reverse engineering the PVR cards amounted to figuring out how to make the firmware load and a little biy beyond |
| [22:28:00] | GeekZoid: | oh ok |
| [22:29:00] | Dagmar: | Since the firmware for the PVR cards comes right on the driver CD with nothing really hiding it, that bit was easy |
| [22:29:00] | Beirdo: | I think there was a LOT more to it than just that |
| [22:29:00] | Dagmar: | Yeah, but there's no point in confusing the guy further |
| [22:29:00] | ** GeekZoid chuckles ** | |
| [22:29:00] | Kaetzchen: | running a DVArchive box |
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| [22:30:00] | GeekZoid: | THe thing that sucks. is that GATOS seems like a dead project too |
| [22:30:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [22:30:00] | Beirdo: | and has been for a long time |
| [22:30:00] | Dagmar: | Didn't they get nasty lawyergrams at one point? |
| [22:30:00] | GeekZoid: | I thought ATI was working with them |
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| [22:31:00] | Beirdo: | oh who knows |
| [22:31:00] | GeekZoid: | It mentions them on the ATI web page that they work with gatos |
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| [22:31:00] | Beirdo: | I could drive up to ATI headquarters and wave my ass at them |
| [22:31:00] | Beirdo: | that won't help get it fixed though |
| [22:31:00] | GeekZoid: | lol |
| [22:32:00] | GeekZoid: | what that kinda sucks i guess then |
| [22:32:00] | Beirdo: | I'm sure you could work on finishing it |
| [22:32:00] | GeekZoid: | nah man it would tkae too much time that i dont have :) |
| [22:32:00] | GeekZoid: | id have to learn a whole bunch of new stuff.. |
| [22:32:00] | GeekZoid: | :) |
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| [22:47:00] | Beirdo: | flap flap flap |
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| [22:47:00] | \Grooby\: | wurd |
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| [22:47:00] | \Grooby\: | got my pvr150 and 350 to work |
| [22:48:00] | Beirdo: | hey, kormoc. kick your connection in the head, dude :) |
| [22:48:00] | \Grooby\: | now gotta figure out hd3k |
| [22:50:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, giving kde 3.5 a try, tis all |
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| [22:53:00] | Criggie: | http://dub.net.nz/mj.JPG |
| [22:53:00] | Criggie: | how to piss the boss off on his 10th anniversary :) |
| [22:54:00] | rjune: | LOL, nice |
| [22:54:00] | Criggie: | will a P3 866 be grunty enough to run a PVR-150 ? It won't run a SAA7134 at the moment. |
| [22:55:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: ahhh :) flopping around like a Pacific Salmon that got swatted out of the river by a grizzly |
| [22:56:00] | Beirdo: | Criggie: it'll be enough to capture, but playback might be a touch tight on CPU at times |
| [22:56:00] | Beirdo: | worth a try |
| [22:56:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, yeah, ati drivers suck, and they arn't being very nice right now :P |
| [22:56:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [22:56:00] | Beirdo: | no, YOU suck.. |
| [22:57:00] | Beirdo: | just had to say it. |
| [22:57:00] | Beirdo: | heh, sorry |
| [22:57:00] | Criggie: | Beirdo: its going to be a dedicated backend. My P3 700 is the front end. |
| [22:57:00] | dcstimm: | hey guys, is it possible for mythtv to have a frontrow type feel? Apples new media center type app |
| [22:57:00] | Beirdo: | I need something to smack around... where's a user when I need one? |
| [22:57:00] | Beirdo: | Criggie: should be fine for a backend |
| [22:57:00] | Beirdo: | your frontend might still be a bit shy on CPU |
| [22:58:00] | Beirdo: | and make sure your backend is running the drives in DMA mode, some older motherboards have had issues running UDMA, if I remember right |
| [22:59:00] | Criggie: | Beirdo: fair enough thanks. |
| [22:59:00] | Beirdo: | dcstimm: if you make the theme, I'm sure it could be done... |
| [22:59:00] | dcstimm: | Beirdo, not to much look wise, but how smooth everything is |
| [22:59:00] | dcstimm: | the transitions |
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| [23:00:00] | dcstimm: | it feels like a video game |
| [23:00:00] | dcstimm: | or a dvd or something |
| [23:01:00] | Beirdo: | cool |
| [23:01:00] | dcstimm: | Beirdo, have you seen it in action? |
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| [23:02:00] | Beirdo: | no |
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| [23:03:00] | dcstimm: | http://images.apple.com/imac/tour/videos/frontrow.mov |
| [23:03:00] | dcstimm: | its amazing |
| [23:04:00] | Anonycat: | Another "Myth couldn't connect to the database" problem...Google gives instances of this happening before, but none of their suggested solutions have worked |
| [23:06:00] | dcstimm: | Beirdo, see it? |
| [23:06:00] | Beirdo: | not right now. at work |
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| [23:15:00] | Skiingsean: | what versions of Xmame <ARE> supported I keep getting this version of xmame is <not> supported |
| [23:15:00] | Skiingsean: | over and over |
| [23:16:00] | SqWaw: | How do you check what version of mythtv you are running? |
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| [23:17:00] | Skiingsean: | SqWaw, sry im too new to this |
| [23:18:00] | Krazylegz: | SqWaw: mythbackend --version |
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| [23:20:00] | smoke_: | anyone here using an irblaster? |
| [23:20:00] | \Grooby\: | nope |
| [23:21:00] | \Grooby\: | =D |
| [23:21:00] | SqWaw: | smoke_, I have one, I just can't get it working |
| [23:21:00] | SqWaw: | Krazylegz, thanks |
| [23:21:00] | Krazylegz: | NO problem. |
| [23:21:00] | Skiingsean: | how about the xmame deal |
| [23:21:00] | Skiingsean: | anyone got one working? what ver? |
| [23:21:00] | SqWaw: | Yea I'd like to know what version of xmame is supported... |
| [23:21:00] | smoke_: | SqWaw, ill let you know if i have luick im going to try right now |
| [23:23:00] | \Grooby\: | so umm..anyone here uses HD3K? |
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| [23:28:00] | Skiingsean: | <brain fart> what unzips bz2's |
| [23:28:00] | bill2or3: | bzip2 -dv foo.bz2 |
| [23:28:00] | kormoc: | bzip2 or tar |
| [23:28:00] | Skiingsean: | thnx |
| [23:29:00] | Krazylegz: | tar -jvpxf foo.bz2 is what I use. |
| [23:29:00] | kormoc: | tar -jxf foo.tar.bz2 |
| [23:29:00] | kormoc: | Krazylegz, tar will throw a error if it's not a .tar.bz2, no? |
| [23:29:00] | Krazylegz: | Ack. Mine is for a tarred and bzipped file. |
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| [23:29:00] | Krazylegz: | kormoc: Correct. :-( |
| [23:29:00] | Skiingsean: | Thnx guys! |
| [23:29:00] | Skiingsean: | tar -jvpxf ill be using from now on |
| [23:29:00] | screevo: | Anyone here get mythtv setup on ubuntu? |
| [23:30:00] | Beirdo: | ls -Fart |
| [23:30:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:31:00] | screevo: | I'm getting a "Myth could not connect to the database" error. |
| [23:31:00] | simon_c: | screevo: From a new frontend on your network ? |
| [23:32:00] | screevo: | No, new installation |
| [23:32:00] | Beirdo: | make sure you have setup the mythtv user in the mysql database correctly |
| [23:32:00] | screevo: | Its gonna all be on one media PC |
| [23:32:00] | screevo: | Heres how I set up the user |
| [23:32:00] | Krazylegz: | Beirdo: Shame on you. Flatulence will not be tolerated. |
| [23:32:00] | screevo: | UPDATE user SET password=PASSWORD('mythtv') WHERE user="mythtv"; |
| [23:32:00] | Beirdo: | Krazylegz: don't make me quote Monty Python. |
| [23:32:00] | screevo: | FLUSH PRIVILEGES; |
| [23:32:00] | simon_c: | screevo: I just followed the docs for the database setup. cut/pasted the comands. it all worked fine. |
| [23:33:00] | Beirdo: | screevo: follow the documentation :) |
| [23:33:00] | Beirdo: | that's why it was written :) |
| [23:33:00] | screevo: | Well, theres no documentation for Ubuntu. Do I just use the Debian docs? |
| [23:34:00] | Beirdo: | the mythtv docs |
| [23:34:00] | Beirdo: | I don't know how the packagers are distributing stuff |
| [23:35:00] | kormoc: | enable universe and apt-get install mythtv, no? |
| [23:35:00] | screevo: | I did that. |
| [23:35:00] | ** Beirdo shrugs. ** | |
| [23:35:00] | screevo: | Beirdo: In the mythTV docs, the very first step doesnt work. Thats where my problems start |
| [23:36:00] | kormoc: | which is? |
| [23:36:00] | Krazylegz: | Which step is that? |
| [23:37:00] | screevo: | As far sas setting up the DB, it says under debian to type "mysql < mc.sql" |
| [23:37:00] | screevo: | in the directory where I want the database to be |
| [23:37:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [23:38:00] | kormoc: | and what's the error? |
| [23:38:00] | screevo: | well, right now I'm trying mysql -u root < mc.sql |
| [23:39:00] | screevo: | and it says access denied for user root, using password=NO |
| [23:39:00] | Krazylegz: | screevo: If you have already setup MySQL, then try mysql -u root -p < mc.sql . |
| [23:39:00] | Skiingsean: | great.. just dl'd the newest source for mame/mess and there is like 300 doc's and the make files are tailorable for like 5 os's? |
| [23:39:00] | Skiingsean: | fun |
| [23:39:00] | redline-: | all, anyone use the serial to mono connector for changing dct box channels? anyone know what its called so i can search it? |
| [23:39:00] | redline-: | i know the emmiter is an ir blaster but what is the serial to mono cable |
| [23:39:00] | screevo: | Ah, ok. that completed properly |
| [23:40:00] | Beirdo: | gotta go |
| [23:40:00] | Krazylegz: | screevo: You're ready for step 2! |
| [23:40:00] | Krazylegz: | Later Weirdo. |
| [23:40:00] | ** kormoc waves to Beirdo ** | |
| [23:42:00] | screevo: | Well, I tried the next step |
| [23:42:00] | screevo: | that seemed to complete too |
| [23:42:00] | screevo: | Ah! Bingo |
| [23:42:00] | screevo: | For some reason, I was trying 127.0.0.1 instead of 'localhot' |
| [23:44:00] | dcstimm: | I wish mythtv had a way to transfer video to my video ipod |
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| [23:45:00] | bill2or3: | hmm |
| [23:45:00] | bill2or3: | I'm sure there will be shortly. |
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| [23:46:00] | jd86: | My mythbackend has been unstable.. to say the least... |
| [23:46:00] | jd86: | it crashes |
| [23:46:00] | jd86: | and my transcoding jobs, i was wondering |
| [23:46:00] | jd86: | when would one have the automatically transcode thing set? |
| [23:46:00] | crash-x: | jd86: do you have an ipod video? |
| [23:46:00] | jd86: | in each of the From {RTJpeg,Mpeg-2} things? |
| [23:46:00] | jd86: | ipod videO/ |
| [23:46:00] | jd86: | nope |
| [23:47:00] | crash-x: | ops |
| [23:47:00] | crash-x: | dcstimm: was it |
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| [23:47:00] | crash-x: | dcstimm: is it possible to plug the ipod to a big screen and then play some video file on it in a good resolution? |
| [23:47:00] | screevo: | Ok. Mythfilldatabase is running. |
| [23:48:00] | screevo: | Hopefully this will work just fine |
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| [23:55:00] | screevo: | ... Ok. Now I'm getting "Cannot connect to database" again |
| [23:56:00] | jd86: | screevo: mysql on the same computer as myth? if not have you configured ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt right? |
| [23:56:00] | screevo: | Same computer |
| [23:57:00] | screevo: | hostname "localhost" database "mythconverg" user "root" password "passwordthatisetinSQL" |
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| [23:59:00] | screevo: | Ha. That'll do it. I dont even see a running process for mysql |
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