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[00:11:00] fryfrog: anyone ever seen a PCI card that would stop a system from even powering on?
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[00:14:00] fryfrog: this pci wifi card just keeps the system power from coming on fully, it stays in the low power standby (ie, lan leds working but nothing else)
[00:14:00] fryfrog: when you hit the power button, the fans give a little bump but then stop :/
[00:14:00] fryfrog: guess i need to try it in another puter
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[00:16:00] Ribs: fryfrog: It's possible, yes
[00:16:00] Ribs: I've just found out my TV card stops my system booting, tho I can 'power up'
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[00:17:00] Ribs: fryfrog: If the card is cheap and easy to replace, I advise you just throw it
[00:17:00] Ribs: it could damage a machine... :/
[00:22:00] smoke__: is there something speical i have to do for sound output on a directtv satillite mythtv setup?
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[00:44:00] Ribs: Does anyone here have a SP13000 mini-itx board?
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[01:07:00] Juski: fryfrog: your PSU might be under-rated :)
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[01:11:00] smoke_: hey guys, my sound isnt working for livetv, ... my sound works everywhere else,and im not getting any error outputs or anything.. where should i look? im using a pvr-500 dual tuner card from hauggpage, i was thinking maybe that might be the problem? .. thanks guys
[01:13:00] Ribs: smoke_: Does sound work for recorded programs?
[01:13:00] Krazylegz: Sometimes I have to pause for a few seconds and then unpause, or change channels to get sound.
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[01:21:00] pookSter: evening mythfans
[01:22:00] laga: evening pookSter
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[01:54:00] poimen: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder somone here have got a this card working ???????? I havce tried and nothing :(
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[01:58:00] Juski: poimen: who is the card made by?
[01:58:00] JoeyJoeJo: I'm getting the following error message when I run mythfrontend on a remote frontend
[01:58:00] JoeyJoeJo: 2005-10–24 19:56:41.827 Unable to connect to database!
[01:58:00] JoeyJoeJo: 2005-10–24 19:56:41.827 No error type from QSqlError? Strange...
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[01:59:00] poimen: Haupauge
[01:59:00] JoeyJoeJo: from my remote frontend I can connect to my mysql database on my backend with the mysql -h command
[01:59:00] poimen: Juski I think it is the 260 one
[01:59:00] Juski: poimen: okay – what model.. pvr 250? pvr150?
[02:00:00] Juski: poimen: visit http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Main_Page
[02:00:00] poimen: I dont really kwon more than that becase It was included in my PC when I got it and now I dont have windows installed
[02:01:00] Juski: if it's a PVR250MCE card, you might not be able to get it to work in linux
[02:01:00] poimen: how I get that info?
[02:02:00] poimen: what card in the better for using mythtv and linux???
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[02:04:00] Juski: poimen – people usually recommend the pvr series of cards ;)
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[02:05:00] poimen: ok
[02:05:00] simon_c_home: Hi all. I've at last manaeged to get output from this old laptop, via a VGA to composite converter box (picked it up cheap, as ever...) :-)
[02:06:00] simon_c_home: However, the color seems a little on the bright side, and some of the colors seem a little too vibrant. I don't think it's any pal issues, as the box is setup correctly. Are there any playback filters I can use to correct things, and if so, which ones ?
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[02:08:00] poimen: thankx Juski
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[02:13:00] pookSter: Any users here running myth on a 64 bit distro?
[02:14:00] JoeyJoeJo: I was running mythfrontend fine on a 64 bit, but not the backend
[02:14:00] pookSter: did you try?
[02:14:00] JoeyJoeJo: no
[02:14:00] pookSter: I could not get FC3 or 4 working
[02:15:00] pookSter: apparently there are issues
[02:15:00] JoeyJoeJo: I'm using gentoo.. my guess is that your rpm files were compiled for a 32 bit system
[02:15:00] pookSter: but I know some people got it to work
[02:15:00] JoeyJoeJo: if you build from source, I doubt you will have as much trouble
[02:16:00] pookSter: I followed jarod's 64 bit tutorial
[02:16:00] pookSter: I might bite the bullet and download 32b
[02:17:00] JoeyJoeJo: I'm not to fimiliar with that.. what I can say though is in my experience, nothing can beat using a source distrobution like gentoo
[02:17:00] JoeyJoeJo: I used to use FC2, but it had to many problems for me
[02:17:00] JoeyJoeJo: now my system optimised and runs better than ever
[02:18:00] JoeyJoeJo: I think that you would have a lot easier time getting it to work in gentoo
[02:18:00] pookSter: thats what I hear JJJ, but I am pretty much limited right now to a step by step tutorial lol
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[02:18:00] smoke__: anyone here has ever had a problem with livetv and no sound with it? ... all my sound stuff is working its just live tv that doesnt, im thinking maybe some type of tuner configuration im missing for ivtv
[02:18:00] smoke__: ?
[02:19:00] pookSter: I might check out gentoo's tutorial and see if it makes sense to me
[02:20:00] JoeyJoeJo: it's pretty straight forward
[02:21:00] pookSter: I keep getting this Segmentation fault error when I try to run the front end...and I am not the only person from what I have seen around in the forums
[02:22:00] JoeyJoeJo: in fc4?
[02:22:00] pookSter: yes
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[02:23:00] pookSter: Corrupt JPEG data: bad Huffman code
[02:23:00] pookSter: mythtv: could not connect to socket
[02:23:00] pookSter: mythtv: Connection refused
[02:23:00] pookSter: 2005-10–23 19:10:47.387 Inserting MythDVD initial database information.
[02:23:00] pookSter: Segmentation fault
[02:23:00] newby: I have a problem with adding slave backends to my system
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[02:24:00] newby: slaves are trying to run as master mythtvsetup when running on a slave gets the settings from the master
[02:25:00] newby: errr sorry
[02:25:00] newby: hellow
[02:25:00] pookSter: hey newby
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[02:25:00] newby: hi
[02:26:00] newby: please help me
[02:26:00] pookSter: I've read your problem, but I don't have an answer for you. If someone on here is looking, I'm sure they would if they knew. Just hang around for a while and check back
[02:27:00] pookSter: sometimes answers don't come right away
[02:27:00] newby: ok
[02:27:00] newby: I will try to explain better
[02:27:00] pookSter: in the mean time, google your problem, I remember reading something about it
[02:27:00] newby: ok
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[02:28:00] pookSter: while I was searching for the reason why my box won't run
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[02:30:00] smoke__: anyone have any idea why my damn program guide isnt popping up?
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[02:31:00] newby: my slave backends seem to enherit their settings from the master. It might be somthing to do with mysql but I don't know how to troubleshoot it.
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[02:32:00] pookSter: are you running static IP's?
[02:32:00] newby: Supposedly you setup your tuners on the master first. then when you run mythtvsetup on your slave machine the master's tuners are not there...
[02:32:00] newby: yes
[02:33:00] PITABoy: i cant watch or record tv it says that my card is recording and to stop it before i watch tv
[02:33:00] pookSter: how many backends do you have newby?
[02:33:00] newby: 192.168.1.200 is master 192.168.1.201 and 202 are slaves w/ frontends
[02:33:00] PITABoy: 1
[02:34:00] newby: 1 master 2 slaves and 3 frontends
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[02:34:00] pookSter: sounds like quite a system
[02:34:00] pookSter: any hdtv?
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[02:34:00] newby: yes
[02:34:00] pookSter: cool
[02:34:00] newby: had some issues there too
[02:35:00] pookSter: not that it has anything to do with your problem...just curious
[02:35:00] pookSter: coz thats where I am headed after I get this box running
[02:36:00] Juski: arghhh! www.linuxtv.org could not be found :(
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[02:37:00] newby: don't try to use a HD3000 DVB w/ PVR150/500 ivtv tuner.ko and tveeprom conflicts
[02:37:00] PITABoy: what do i do
[02:38:00] pookSter: tnx for the tip
[02:38:00] pookSter: was looking at the hd5000 with a dvb card for dish network and PVR250
[02:40:00] m3avrck: what is bootsplash all about? saw this new feature with knoppmyth
[02:41:00] pookSter: it doesnt have to do with the splash screen while booting does it?
[02:41:00] pookSter: I don't know
[02:41:00] m3avrck: no clue that is what i'm thinking but there is an option during install to add it ... no clue what it does :-/
[02:42:00] GreyFoxx: pookSter: That is what it is
[02:42:00] GreyFoxx: a splash screen during bootup
[02:42:00] m3avrck: eh? that is it??
[02:42:00] GreyFoxx: pretty much
[02:42:00] pookSter: heh
[02:42:00] m3avrck: didn't seem like the effort to try it out and then it doesn't work it mentioned, haha
[02:42:00] pookSter: they picked a good name for it then lol
[02:42:00] m3avrck: ok how about this one ... what color is my hauppage remote? silver or grey ... what exactly is the difference here???
[02:43:00] GreyFoxx: grey is more great like, silver is more toward white
[02:43:00] m3avrck: i know that is really rudimentary but what is the actual difference anything more distinguishing?
[02:43:00] GreyFoxx: grey is more green I mean
[02:43:00] GreyFoxx: That I wouldn';t know
[02:43:00] m3avrck: ah ok if the silver is more white ... mine is greyish with a black bottom
[02:43:00] pookSter: I think the new ones have the colored buttons at the bottom
[02:43:00] m3avrck: yeah i have colored buttons as well ... is that considered teh grey one then?
[02:43:00] pookSter: I believe there were 3 flavors
[02:44:00] pookSter: It looks silver to me
[02:44:00] m3avrck: yeah i can't figure which one it is exactly :-/
[02:44:00] GreyFoxx: All of my Hauppage remotes are in a drawer somewhere
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[02:45:00] m3avrck: apparently there are is a grey and silver one
[02:45:00] GreyFoxx: Of that I am aware :)
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[02:46:00] m3avrck: this is the one i have: http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/hauppauge/PVR-350.jpg ... the 350 remote is that the silver or grey remote?
[02:47:00] GreyFoxx: That would be the Silver I think
[02:48:00] GreyFoxx: Very different that the original Grey remotes
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[02:48:00] GreyFoxx: but there were 2 generations of grey ones
[02:48:00] smoke__: hey guys, .. im having this problem where wheni load my program guide nothing happens it jsut shows the background image... anyone know of a problem like this?
[02:49:00] pookSter: here's an old black one, and two different grey and black ones. The older grey and black remote has the four colored buttons around the channel and volume controls,
[02:49:00] pookSter: The newer one has the four colored buttons at the bottom of the remote
[02:49:00] pookSter: so I guess that would be classified as silver
[02:50:00] pookSter: the above was off wilsonet.com
[02:50:00] m3avrck: yeah it does seem like the one with the 350 with colored buttons is indeed the *silver* one
[02:50:00] m3avrck: haha
[02:51:00] m3avrck: thanks pookSter and GreyFoxx
[02:52:00] m3avrck: damn knoppmyth r5a22 doeesn't have the silver one, doh! figures
[02:52:00] m3avrck: haha
[02:52:00] pookSter: it doesn't?
[02:53:00] pookSter: that is the newest release
[02:55:00] pookSter: do you have to format the HD to install Knoppmyth?
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[02:56:00] PITABoy: yes
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[03:19:00] PaulWay: Hi all!
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[03:20:00] PaulWay: Jeez, I've just discovered the hard way that having the top off my computer case interferes with my wireless keyboard and mouse something shocking!
[03:20:00] PaulWay: Anyone around to solve input problems?
[03:20:00] triplep: anyone have sound issues with the second tuner card? basically the second tuner has no sound
[03:20:00] PaulWay: triplep, I've got a second DVB tuner and I have no problems.
[03:20:00] PaulWay: How's your reception?
[03:21:00] PaulWay: Having two inputs off the same lead with a passive splitter will cause problems.
[03:21:00] PaulWay: The reception wil be worse.
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[03:22:00] triplep: reception is fine
[03:22:00] triplep: i'm wondering if it's a VIA chipset issue
[03:23:00] PaulWay: you're using two analogue cards?
[03:23:00] triplep: yes
[03:23:00] triplep: pvr 150's
[03:24:00] PaulWay: Right, so the one and the other should be the same.
[03:24:00] triplep: presumeably yes
[03:24:00] PaulWay: How does the sound normally get in with the PVR150s? Is it an external loopback or is it available on the PCI?
[03:24:00] NightBird: hey, if the only input for my tv is the same as the input for my myth box(I don't know the connector type, but the typical one for cable and antenna), how should I connect the two together?
[03:25:00] triplep: the card does the sound as well
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[03:25:00] PaulWay: NightBird, sounds like you need a female to female or male to male lead / adapter.
[03:26:00] PaulWay: Ah, sorry, read your explanation wrong.
[03:26:00] NightBird: heh
[03:26:00] PaulWay: Ignore what I just said.
[03:26:00] NightBird: yeah, I was going to correct you, but you got yourself already
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[03:26:00] PaulWay: your TV only has an aerial input?
[03:26:00] NightBird: it's a little dinky tv
[03:26:00] NightBird: I got it for free, so...
[03:27:00] PaulWay: If you're going to stick with that TV, you're going to need an RF modulator.
[03:27:00] NightBird: hm....
[03:27:00] PaulWay: The modulator takes the RF output of the mythtv machine and makes it into a UHF or VHF signal that your tv can tune.
[03:27:00] NightBird: ok
[03:28:00] PaulWay: triplep, So one card has sound and the other doesn't?
[03:28:00] PaulWay: Are you seeing /dev/dsp0 and /dev/dsp1 or similar devices?
[03:32:00] triplep: i just set them both to dsp0 methinks
[03:32:00] triplep: which could be a no no i'm guessing
[03:33:00] triplep: infact, they are at defaults, cause i didn't do a thing to either of them
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[03:34:00] PaulWay: triplep, You should definitely have two devices, one from each input stream.\
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[03:34:00] PaulWay: You may even have /dev/dsp{0,1,2}, if your sound card has an input as well.
[03:35:00] PaulWay: NightBird, That or upgrade to a newer television that has an RF input.
[03:35:00] NightBird: PaulWay, yeah, thats another option...
[03:35:00] PaulWay: They're a yellow RCA-style connector – about 8mm across with a shield outside and a connector / hole in the middle.
[03:36:00] PaulWay: white is left, red is right, yellow is video.
[03:36:00] pookSter: Night everyone!
[03:37:00] PaulWay: seeya, pookSter.,
[03:37:00] NightBird: good night
[03:37:00] PaulWay: OK, i've got a question in return:
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[03:37:00] triplep: thanks PaulWay, i'm going to try that in a few minutes after i crank out a bio assignment
[03:37:00] PaulWay: I'm trying to get direct video in from a VHS player.
[03:37:00] PaulWay: triplep, the easy ones first, eh?
[03:38:00] triplep: actually, yes
[03:38:00] PaulWay: I
[03:38:00] NightBird: hm....27" tv is 249.99 on newegg, while the converter is ~$9...
[03:38:00] PaulWay: I have an AVerMedia DVB-T card which has an aerial and an S-Video input.
[03:39:00] PaulWay: And AFAICS there's only one video device, /dev/video0 (linked to /dev/video, of course)
[03:39:00] PaulWay: NightBird, I'm impressed if the converter is that cheap. Go with that then.
[03:39:00] PaulWay: Mind you it might be a piece of crap.
[03:40:00] ** NightBird ponders asking for a tv for christmas... **
[03:40:00] NightBird: http://www.mesztek.com/product_info.php?ad=fr . . . ucts_id=3103
[03:40:00] PaulWay: A reasonable thing to do, if you've only got a 17" TV to watch.
[03:40:00] NightBird: PaulWay, it's smaller then 17"
[03:40:00] NightBird: it's like.... 12" or so
[03:40:00] PaulWay: We upgraded when my monitor (21") was larger than our TV (17")
[03:41:00] PaulWay: NightBird, you'll go blind I tell you!
[03:41:00] NightBird: hm...
[03:41:00] NightBird: so yeah, I'll be asking for a tv for christmas
[03:41:00] PaulWay: I know I've got signal coming to the S-Video input (I've tested it on the TV, and the video is playing a known good tape)
[03:42:00] PaulWay: So how do I actually display / record it?
[03:42:00] NightBird: my s-video out is interlaced kinda badly...
[03:43:00] NightBird: I'm using nvtv, because I'm using a GeForce 3 ti, and the built in s-video out thing for linux(or the one I compiled in, I'm not sure which....) doesn't like the geforce 3 I guess
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[03:44:00] ** NightBird looks for a tv that has vga in... **
[03:47:00] NightBird: hahahaha
[03:48:00] ** PaulWay wishes Nightbird luck, or an infinitely large wallet, whichever comes first. **
[03:48:00] NightBird: so yeah... I'm not going to ask for a $2k tv for christmas.... and if I did get one, I wouldn't bring it down to college with me...
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[03:49:00] PaulWay: Abso-freaking-lutely.
[03:49:00] mitti: howdy folks!
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[03:49:00] NightBird: hi
[03:49:00] PaulWay: how goes, mitti?
[03:49:00] PaulWay: Anyone here use a video input from a cable box?
[03:49:00] mitti: eh, pretty good. Got me one of these Convert-X MPEG-4 encoders.. :)
[03:50:00] mitti: I am, I have a Motorola 6200
[03:50:00] PaulWay: I've got a video input (S-Video) on my AVerMedia DVB card, and I'm trying to record from a VHS player.
[03:50:00] Criggie: NightBird: get a laptop – excellent for college.
[03:50:00] ** NightBird needs to figure out why his myth installation can't play avi files or anything like that... **
[03:51:00] PaulWay: I know the S-Video has a good signal (I can see it if I plug it into the TV)
[03:51:00] NightBird: Criggie, I don't need a laptop
[03:51:00] mitti: Nightbird, what codec is the AVI?
[03:51:00] Criggie: NightBird: need != want :)
[03:51:00] NightBird: divx
[03:51:00] PaulWay: But I'm trying to work out how to record the input.
[03:51:00] NightBird: ok, Criggie, I don't want a laptop
[03:51:00] mitti: do you have divx configured? Using mPlayer?
[03:51:00] NightBird: mitti, I installed Videolan
[03:52:00] NightBird: mPlayer doesn't recognise any video formats..
[03:52:00] NightBird: even the mpeg I got from the capture card awhile back
[03:52:00] PaulWay: NightBird, sounds like you don't have any codecs installed.
[03:52:00] NightBird: PaulWay, probably not
[03:52:00] mitti: NightBird, mPlayer should do MPEG-2 no problem.. what distro are you running?
[03:52:00] NightBird: Ubuntu
[03:53:00] PaulWay: Download the essential pack from mplayerhq.hu
[03:53:00] mitti: Nightbird, where did you get mPlayer packages?
[03:53:00] PaulWay: mitti, how did you get your video input working when you were installing?
[03:53:00] NightBird: mitti, mPlayer came preinstalled I believe
[03:54:00] ** NightBird sighs **
[03:54:00] NightBird: ok, I'm going to go for a bit..
[03:54:00] mitti: NightBird, try adding one of these to your sources file in /etc/apt/ http://www.princessleia.com/MPlayer2.html
[03:54:00] NightBird: bye
[03:54:00] NightBird: ok
[03:55:00] mitti: PaulWay, umm.. Well, registering as a device in /dev?
[03:55:00] PaulWay: AFAICS, it's /dev/video0
[03:55:00] PaulWay: Although I have no way of knowing whether that in fact is it.
[03:55:00] mitti: do you know which kernel module it uses?
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[03:57:00] mitti: do a 'lsmod' see if you can see any bt8xx devices?
[03:57:00] PaulWay: No?
[03:57:00] PaulWay: It's a bt878 so it's using the bttv drivers, I believe.
[03:58:00] PaulWay: Yeah, there's bt878 and dvb_bt878 installed.
[03:58:00] PaulWay: As well as a bunch of others relying on them.
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[03:58:00] PaulWay: afk, ful bladder warning
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[03:59:00] mitti: well, that sounds good.
[03:59:00] mitti: so what is it doing then, any errors?
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[03:59:00] PaulWay: Well, so far I've done 'mplayer tv://' but I just get a green screen.
[04:00:00] PaulWay: And I'm trying to get lavrec running but it's borking out on getting the audio working.
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[04:01:00] ShockValue: anyone use alt or ctrl F# keys for jump points? Im trying to figure out the syntax in both mythweb and lirc syntax to get that to wwork
[04:01:00] PaulWay: ShockValue, you still working on that eh? :-)
[04:01:00] mitti: so you're getting video but not audio?
[04:01:00] PaulWay: Other way around, sort of.
[04:02:00] PaulWay: I can hear the audio through the line-in, but no video AFAICS.
[04:03:00] PaulWay: I'm guessing that I need to do something clever with mplayer to get it to read the right device or use the right parameters or something.
[04:03:00] ShockValue: PaulWay: yeah kinda.. mostly just getting back to it :)
[04:04:00] ShockValue: PaulWay: i keep running into trouble trying to re-use the keys myth has defined by default.. so I figure CTRL-F3 would be safe :)
[04:04:00] PaulWay: I'm just googling the lavrec error message...
[04:04:00] PaulWay: That sounds suspiciously like those lame bash.org jokes about getting people to hit Alt-F4 to get chanops... :-)
[04:05:00] mitti: hmm..
[04:05:00] kev_: is there any way to provide a custom weather map for mythweather? i live in waterloo, ontario and get 'map unavailable' instead of something useful
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[04:05:00] mitti: -tv <option1:option2:...>
[04:06:00] mitti: device=<value>
[04:06:00] mitti: Specify TV device (default: /dev/video0).
[04:06:00] mitti: have you tried that?
[04:06:00] PaulWay: mitti, So I'm leaving that as is as I'mn using the default.
[04:06:00] PaulWay: But I can try setting it explicitly...
[04:06:00] PaulWay: Hang on...
[04:07:00] PaulWay: Still looks like a green screen to me...
[04:07:00] mitti: okay, how about setting this:
[04:07:00] mitti: driver=<value>
[04:07:00] mitti: available: dummy, v4l, v4l2, bsdbt848
[04:07:00] PaulWay: Actually, the problem I'm having with lavrec is that it's segfaulting before it sets up.
[04:07:00] mitti: I'm using v4l2, but that depends on your setup..
[04:07:00] mitti: segfault is usually pretty bad....
[04:08:00] mitti: where'd you get it? did you compile it or was it a package?
[04:08:00] PaulWay: Tried all the non-dummy modes, mitti
[04:08:00] PaulWay: I just did 'yum install lavrec', I think.
[04:08:00] PaulWay: Using Fedora Core here... (don't hate me)
[04:10:00] PaulWay: What's interesting, though, mitti, is that looking through the mplayer log I notice it says "TV selected! \n Selected driver: dummy\n name: NULL-TV\n author: alex\n Selected input hasn't got a tuner!"
[04:10:00] mitti: Fedora isn't bad, I ran Redhat for years before discovering the Debian religion..
[04:10:00] PaulWay: Which is correct (it hasn't, it's just a video in)
[04:10:00] PaulWay: The distro I can't understand is gentoo.
[04:10:00] PaulWay: All this emerge, ecrack thing is just bizarre.
[04:11:00] PaulWay: Fedora has only really come good since they've been using yum and everyone's jumped on board.
[04:11:00] PaulWay: But it's interesting that it still uses dummy even though I've told it explicitly not to.
[04:11:00] PaulWay: Or, hang on, did I?
[04:11:00] mitti: yeah, a guy at work loves Gentoo. it's all about doing it yourself.. I don't want to do anything I don't have to..
[04:12:00] PaulWay: Great Gorilla of Manila!
[04:12:00] PaulWay: It's working!
[04:12:00] PaulWay: I just had to get it to not use dummy!
[04:13:00] PaulWay: Now how the heck do I get it to record?
[04:13:00] mitti: slick, you can probably set that setting in your ~/.mplayer/config...?
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[04:13:00] PaulWay: Oooh, good idea mitti!
[04:13:00] PaulWay: Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you!
[04:13:00] mitti: I wonder if mencoder can encode straight from that device.. I've been very impressed by mencoder..
[04:14:00] mitti: umm, for lavrec you just basically have to do the same thing as you did with mplayer.
[04:14:00] mitti: it looks like it uses environment variables for settings, how lame..
[04:14:00] mitti: LAV_VIDEO_DEV
[04:14:00] mitti: The video device. Default is /dev/video
[04:14:00] mitti: LAV_AUDIO_DEV
[04:14:00] mitti: The audio device. Default is /dev/dsp
[04:14:00] mitti: LAV_MIXER_DEV
[04:14:00] mitti: The mixer device. Default is /dev/mixer
[04:14:00] kev_: any thoughts on getting weather maps if you live in canada? pressing spacebar, as suggested in the mailing list, doesn't load the map.
[04:15:00] PaulWay: Er, stupid question, how do I put -tv driver=v4l2 in the config mitti?
[04:16:00] PaulWay: don't worry, man mplayer just told me.
[04:16:00] PaulWay: kev_, I can't help you, sorry...
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[04:17:00] PaulWay: mitti, the thing is that all those defaults are correct for this system.
[04:17:00] PaulWay: Er, let me just check which audio device I'm using.
[04:18:00] PaulWay: Yep, only one.
[04:18:00] mitti: PaulWay, are you talking about mplayer or lavrec?
[04:20:00] mitti: kev_, what's your postal code in Water Loo?
[04:21:00] mitti: kev_, never mind, these don't use postal codes..
[04:21:00] PaulWay: mitti, lavrec
[04:21:00] PaulWay: But I've got mencoder working, that'll do so far.
[04:21:00] PaulWay: Will experiment with lavrec.
[04:22:00] kev_: mitti, "these don't use postal codes"?
[04:22:00] mitti: kev_, well, 27::CAXX0531::Waterloo, Canada
[04:23:00] kev_: mitti, my city is listed in the setup part of mythweather. the trouble is that no weather map is loaded. and using spacebar doesn't cause the image to load
[04:23:00] mitti: PaulWay, your environment variables were correct?
[04:24:00] mitti: kev_, well, at least for the US it uses MSNBC for data and Weather.com for map.. I don't know if that's true for Canada..
[04:25:00] mitti: kev_, can you get weather on Weather.com? Do they have your city?
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[04:26:00] kev_: mitti, weather.com has the city including a radar map
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[04:29:00] GreyFoxx: Mythweather only uses msnbc and weather.com for info regardless of where you are
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[04:36:00] kev_: GreyFoxx: any thoughts on why it's not loading an image for me?
[04:39:00] mitti: kev_, I followed the logic used in the source code and I got your weather map up no problem..
[04:40:00] mitti: have you tried running myth with the debug flag turned on?
[04:41:00] PaulWay: Hmmm, well, it's not getting any sound in.
[04:41:00] PaulWay: I'll keep on playing with it.
[04:41:00] PaulWay: Getting video is a major leap forward.
[04:41:00] kev_: mitti, no but it seems like i'll have to
[04:42:00] kev_: mitti, thanks for your help
[04:42:00] ShockValue: .
[04:42:00] mitti: PaulWay, are you using alsa?
[04:45:00] mitti: oh well, I gotta get going.. Paul, you might want to try alsamixer, just a guess..
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[04:57:00] JoeyJoeJo: for the life of me I can't get my remote frontend to connect to my backend.. I get these errors.. 2005-10–24 22:56:43.406 Unable to connect to database!
[04:57:00] JoeyJoeJo: 2005-10–24 22:56:43.406 No error type from QSqlError? Strange...
[04:57:00] JoeyJoeJo: 2005-10–24 22:56:43.406 Failed to init MythContext, exiting.
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[04:58:00] JoeyJoeJo: I can access mysql from my frontend to my backend using the mysql -h command, but I can't use mythfrontend for some reason
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[05:00:00] newpers: do you all happen to know of a rss feed for tv listings? if not, then how does mythtv get theirs?
[05:00:00] Agrajag-: xmltv
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[05:01:00] Agrajag-: + tv_grab_xx scripts
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[05:02:00] newpers: thanks
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[05:08:00] nero_zzzz: got a preview of my new theme, if anyone is interested in testing it.. :)
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[05:08:00] Agrajag-: got screenies?
[05:09:00] _Nero_: yeah, hold on..
[05:09:00] Agrajag-: ta
[05:10:00] _Nero_: http://mdobossy.student.princeton.edu/~nero/oldfilmss.jpg
[05:10:00] _Nero_: its... different.. ;)
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[05:13:00] Agrajag-: that's cool
[05:13:00] Agrajag-: except i dont really like the menu font
[05:13:00] Agrajag-: needs to be wider and anti aliased or something, i dunno
[05:13:00] _Nero_: Oh, it is anti-aliased on screen..
[05:14:00] Agrajag-: ah ok
[05:14:00] _Nero_: that screen shot it looks real jaggie for some reason- is nice and smooth on screen..
[05:14:00] _Nero_: http://mdobossy.student.princeton.edu/~nero/m . . . eview.tar.gz <--- if you want to give it a try..
[05:14:00] _Nero_: (the font you dont like is in that tgz- because of the yellow side it needs a condensed font :/)
[05:15:00] Agrajag-: fair enough. cool i'll give it a go, ta
[05:15:00] _Nero_: the preview image is missing, as are a few of the watermarks.. just a preview, but looking for any feedback.. :)
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[05:33:00] newpers: so where do you all get your xmltv data source from
[05:33:00] newpers: i live in phoenix, az
[05:33:00] newpers: where would i get mine
[05:33:00] PaulWay: OK, how do I record from line-in using mencoder?
[05:34:00] PaulWay: newpers, peeople in the US seem to all use datadirect or zap2it.
[05:34:00] newpers: thanks, PaulWay
[05:34:00] PaulWay: (record audio, that is)
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[05:44:00] FunkyELF: anyone here got firewire working?
[05:51:00] PaulWay: Not me, but I've got audio input working from video!
[05:52:00] PaulWay: Transcribing all my VHS tapes now...
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[05:52:00] PaulWay: Hooray for 1:1 speed dubbing!
[05:52:00] PaulWay: I'm now off to trim the hedge, of all things.
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[06:15:00] newpers: hmm... the zap2it certificate isn't working. JYXN-ZAZN-YBUT
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[06:46:00] PaulWay: How goes?
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[06:47:00] PaulWay: Any recommendations for good video editing software under Linux?
[06:48:00] mandyblock: avidemux2
[06:49:00] PaulWay: Is this just command-line editing or are we talking GUIs here?
[06:49:00] mandyblock: has a gui
[06:49:00] mandyblock: win32 port as well
[06:49:00] PaulWay: Righto, I'll check it out – thanks mandyblock!
[06:50:00] mandyblock: k
[06:52:00] PaulWay: Hmmm – why is yum segfaulting every time I run it now?
[06:53:00] mandyblock: I still get tons of prebuffering pauses
[06:54:00] mandyblock: I know that's been mentioned a ton of times, but I've never seen a fix for it
[06:56:00] PaulWay: Were you the one having the problem where you would get lots of buffering pauses when playing a show that was recording, but could play the show later with no problems?
[06:56:00] mandyblock: I don't think I'm that one, but one of them
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[07:52:00] bradd: hey guys.. I'm getting a 'Remotefile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read()'when myth starts up.. any ideas?
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[08:27:00] wozza: hello
[08:29:00] simcop2387: ipv6!!!!
[08:34:00] KaZeR: bradd, buffer directory unavailable?
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[08:56:00] toresbe: OK, so I alloc a buffer size strlen(filename) + 3. the first character is ", and I skip to the \0 in the orig string, replacing it with "\""
[08:56:00] toresbe: Is that a sane approach?
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[09:44:00] PaulWay: Hmmm – I think I need a larger power supply for this machine.
[09:44:00] PaulWay: The -12V rail seems to be fluctuating between -7 and -14 under load.
[09:45:00] PaulWay: Aaaand mencoder just segfaulted.
[09:49:00] PaulWay: Aaand I'm getting heaps of messages in the kernel log about bt878 irw FBUS risc hexcode.
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[11:24:00] fman: anyone know if getting black and white video on s-video input on a pvr-150 is normal
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[11:29:00] rapha: Hi all!
[11:29:00] rapha: Where do you get dvbscan and szap from (for Fedora Core 4)?
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[15:06:00] Hoxzer: ok, now guys PERKELE!
[15:07:00] Hoxzer: autatte mua nytten paskakasat
[15:07:00] Hoxzer: in english that means: could you guys help me plz
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[15:08:00] laga: you didn't even describe your problem.
[15:09:00] rapha: Hoxzer: Alla Jalavapuun.
[15:09:00] GreyFoxx: Likely the same one he has had for days
[15:09:00] Hoxzer: Rapha: :D
[15:09:00] GreyFoxx: He doesn't know what to enter to get a channel scan to work, and wants help importing and existing channels.conf
[15:09:00] Hoxzer: yep ;)
[15:10:00] Hoxzer: as GreyFoxx said
[15:10:00] Hoxzer: damn school takes too much time ;(
[15:11:00] laga: GreyFoxx: argh, the memory comes back
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[15:11:00] Hoxzer: well let me know when you guys can help ;)
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[15:11:00] Hoxzer: have to go to do homeworks
[15:12:00] ** laga suppresses the urge to hurt someone **
[15:12:00] GreyFoxx: I can't, so therefore ... I wont be letting you know :)
[15:13:00] Hoxzer: lol I have answer ^^ in mailing list
[15:15:00] rapha: Hoxzer: That's nearly all I can say in Finnish :-)
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[15:17:00] laga: Hoxzer: told you that searching the ML would work.
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[15:44:00] WebLOCH: Hello ?
[15:44:00] laga: hi WebLOCH
[15:44:00] WebLOCH: hello laga
[15:45:00] WebLOCH: Does anyone here feel like answering some questions ?
[15:45:00] laga: probably, just ask ;)
[15:46:00] WebLOCH: Well firstly I wanted to know if MythTV works well with VCRs?
[15:46:00] WebLOCH: These will possibly be vague questions but are all related to Video/MythTV one way or another
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[15:54:00] laga: what do you want to do with the VCR?
[15:54:00] WebLOCH: playback to monitor
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[15:54:00] WebLOCH: and possibly encode movies into digital format
[15:56:00] laga: yes, this should be possible, although mythtv wasn't really designed to do this. it's a PVR and not a vcr->monitor thingamajick ;)
[15:58:00] WebLOCH: Well i thought the point was its more than a PVR
[15:58:00] WebLOCH: thanks for responding
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[16:16:00] ** juski thought mythtv was intended to replace VCRs. oh well **
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[16:20:00] GreyFoxx: It's intending to improve on what aVCR does, but that does not mean it's intended to be a random recording device
[16:20:00] GreyFoxx: It expects program data, otherwise you the user have to go through extra efforts for your recording
[16:21:00] GreyFoxx: if you want to just replace a VCR then just get a PVR card, and cat /dev/video0> file.mpg after hitting play on the VCR :)
[16:24:00] opello: and if you could set the vcr... does that mean you use cron? :)
[16:24:00] GreyFoxx: well cron and a shell script could use the cat /dev/video0 method :)
[16:25:00] opello: but then it'd be like a vcr, with super scheduling features!
[16:26:00] GreyFoxx: Anyone who wants to make it less painful for a user to just do random recordings is more than welcome to write something. I'm sure others who wish to use it the same way would be happy :)
[16:27:00] opello: heh
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[16:33:00] purplefrog: I want to create HTML with a frameset that includes a mythweb search with a regexp. When I try, it doesn't take the searchstr= parameter from the URL, but instead remembers what I last typed into the field. WTF?
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[16:35:00] purplefrog: Then again, maybe firefox was caching...
[16:35:00] purplefrog: stupid firefox.
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[17:52:00] stoffel: xris: here? is nuvexport working with mythtv svn?
[17:52:00] xris: stoffel: should be
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[17:53:00] stoffel: some say it isn't for them
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[18:11:00] kahuna_: Is SVN locked down for a .19 release? I've heard rumors.
[18:12:00] NightBird: http://thedailywtf.com/forums/47844/ShowPost.aspx << you programmers could appreciate this..
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[18:27:00] GreyFoxx: kahuna_: No
[18:30:00] ** xris pokes Beirdo again **
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[18:31:00] Rince: evening
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[18:34:00] Rince: question: what do I need to be able to use nuvexport to export to PSP?
[18:36:00] Rince: (better: which version of ffmpeg?)
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[18:38:00] xris: Rince: run it and it'll tell you
[18:39:00] xris: yay. I now have a friend who works for google
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[18:47:00] Rince: xris: hm. ok, try to find out :)
[18:47:00] kahuna_: Anyone else here using a pundit-r?
[18:48:00] Rince: well – it tells me that my ffmpeg-version doesn't support psp; which brings me back to my original question – which version of ffmpeg does :)
[18:48:00] kahuna_: ffmpeg.org.
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[19:03:00] zaps: Has anyone had issues with a sound blaster live! card , sound is over modulated and cracky when i watch TV
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[19:05:00] DonChullio: Hi here is a very good Browser Game !!!! http://www.street-conflicts.de.ki !!!!! It's about Gangster and ...... !!!!!!
[19:06:00] laga: DonChullio: we dont care. go away.
[19:06:00] GreyFoxx: DonChullio: take your spamming ass elsewhere
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[19:06:00] laga: GreyFoxx: beat you to it ;)
[19:07:00] GreyFoxx: Not from my PoV :)
[19:07:00] laga: darn ;)
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[19:17:00] kahuna_: Anyone here using a VGA scan converter?
[19:17:00] Led-Hed: kahuna_, I did for a while.
[19:18:00] GreyFoxx: I've got one that I use to use for presentations, but it looks pretty crappy for video
[19:18:00] Led-Hed: thats why I stopped using mine also
[19:19:00] kahuna_: Hmm. So all scan converters are crappier than svideo out on a card then?
[19:19:00] GreyFoxx: All that I have personally seen
[19:20:00] GreyFoxx: ymmv :)
[19:21:00] kahuna_: I have ATI Tv-out.
[19:21:00] kahuna_: I just don't like the ATI drivers.
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[19:23:00] Led-Hed: kahuna_, I dont like ATI in linux either. nVidia is much easier.
[19:23:00] Led-Hed: though I dont see much of a difference in video quality
[19:23:00] Led-Hed: between ATI & nVidia
[19:23:00] kahuna_: Yep. I have 2 tuner cards in my HTPC box and that's all it will fit, so I'm stuck with ATI unless I want to get a new box or get rid of a tuner.
[19:24:00] kahuna_: ATI= no XvMC
[19:24:00] Led-Hed: kahuna_, the pvr-500 has 2 tunners
[19:24:00] kahuna_: It won't fit.
[19:24:00] kahuna_: Already looked into it
[19:24:00] Led-Hed: must be a small case
[19:24:00] kahuna_: When I play a DVB stream myth gets kind of choppy.
[19:25:00] kahuna_: Yes, small isn't the word.
[19:25:00] Led-Hed: sounds like CPU
[19:25:00] kahuna_: I had to mod the case just to fit in a PVR-150
[19:25:00] Led-Hed: lol
[19:25:00] Led-Hed: what speed CPU
[19:25:00] kahuna_: I'm only at 40% CPU. Celeron 2.8 prescott
[19:25:00] Led-Hed: humm.
[19:25:00] kahuna_: Of course the PVR-150 output is flawless.
[19:26:00] Led-Hed: what resolution?
[19:26:00] kahuna_: 640x480
[19:26:00] ** laga is at 66% cpu on a p3–450. there you go ;) **
[19:26:00] kahuna_: So 40% should be fine then.
[19:27:00] kahuna_: Xine plays my dvds fine, but mplayer seems to drop a frame or two every so oftebn
[19:27:00] Led-Hed: my frontends are underclocked Mobile Athlon XP's @ 100x10 . CPU utilization usually at 35–50%
[19:28:00] kahuna_: Is xine better than mplayer when it comes to decoding mpeg2?
[19:28:00] Led-Hed: kahuna_, use Xine then. or is the frame dropping happening durring LiveTV?
[19:28:00] kahuna_: Live TV
[19:29:00] Led-Hed: kahuna_, you said PVR-150 output is perfect? pvr-150 dont have tv-out do they?
[19:29:00] kahuna_: Nope.
[19:30:00] Led-Hed: you mean the capture is perfect...
[19:30:00] kahuna_: I haven't tried the 150 with myth, only xine so far
[19:30:00] Led-Hed: kahuna_, are you deinterlacing?
[19:30:00] Led-Hed: for liveTV
[19:31:00] kahuna_: I haven't enabled any deinterlacing yet.
[19:31:00] Led-Hed: try enabling deinterlacing and OpenGL VSync
[19:31:00] kahuna_: which filter? bob?
[19:31:00] Led-Hed: that may fix your drop frame issues
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[19:31:00] Led-Hed: kernel
[19:31:00] kahuna_: OpengL sync? will that work if I only have 2D accel?
[19:32:00] Led-Hed: are you running the ATI driver or the Open Source?
[19:32:00] kahuna_: ATI
[19:32:00] kahuna_: Open source doesn't support my TV out yet
[19:32:00] Led-Hed: then you are fine... enable OGL Vsync
[19:33:00] kahuna_: And 3d accel is not supported in the proprietary for TV-Out.
[19:33:00] kahuna_: I'll have to try it all out when I get home.
[19:33:00] Led-Hed: it made a big difference on mine.
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[19:34:00] kahuna_: That's good to hear.
[19:34:00] Led-Hed: I use nVidia though.  ;P
[19:34:00] kahuna_: That's what I love about myth. So much stuff to play around with.
[19:34:00] Led-Hed: I didnt know ATI didnt support 3d Accel on TV-Out. thats kinda lame.
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[19:35:00] Led-Hed: or is that a linux specific issue?
[19:35:00] kormoc: ati's linux drivers suck penguin ass
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[19:35:00] kahuna_: linux
[19:35:00] Led-Hed: lol
[19:38:00] Led-Hed: I'm actually starting to get the hang of linux. its sad really. you know you've been using linux a while when you go to a DOS prompt and type ls -lsa
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[19:41:00] beavis: even worse if you start to use pipe grep ;)
[19:41:00] Led-Hed: I actually installed a game on my Linux Desktop. It actually runs better. Sad thing is my Linux Desktop has a GeForce 3 ti200 and my Windows Box has a GeForce 6800 GT. and the linux box holds its own...
[19:41:00] Led-Hed: beavis, no doubt
[19:42:00] beavis: there's a replacement for ls but grep is hard to use on DOS prompt
[19:42:00] Led-Hed: I tried to stop a windows service the other day and typed /etc/init.d
[19:45:00] Cardoe: simcop2387: I'm jealous. I've been fighting with it for ages.
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[19:52:00] amorphix: hi
[19:53:00] amorphix: Does the Kword V-Stream Expert PVR work in Linux?
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[19:55:00] amorphix: hi
[19:55:00] amorphix: Does the Kword V-Stream Expert PVR work in Linux?
[19:56:00] laga: i'm not sure if i understand, could you repeat that please?
[19:56:00] amorphix: sure
[19:56:00] amorphix: Is the Kword, V-Stream Expert PVR supported in Linux with driver module?
[19:57:00] amorphix: that any better?
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[20:00:00] amorphix: hi
[20:00:00] amorphix: Is the Kword, V-Stream Expert PVR supported in Linux with driver module?
[20:00:00] Alan66: Hi all...
[20:00:00] amorphix: Hi Al
[20:01:00] amorphix: hard day?
[20:01:00] Alan66: I have read that some people have had success loading MythTV onto a DBOX2.. is this realistic?
[20:01:00] amorphix: I have no clue what a DBOX2 is
[20:02:00] laga: Alan66: no, it is not. you use the dboxII as a DVB-card, kind of. not as a frontend.
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[20:02:00] amorphix: hi
[20:02:00] amorphix: Is the Kword, V-Stream Expert PVR supported in Linux with driver module?
[20:02:00] GreyFoxx: amorphix: Stop repeating
[20:02:00] GreyFoxx: If someone can answer they will
[20:02:00] amorphix: ok
[20:02:00] amorphix: but thats a new guy who joined who might know
[20:02:00] GreyFoxx: I don;'t care
[20:02:00] GreyFoxx: The rest of us don't want to see it everytime someone comes into the channel
[20:03:00] amorphix: ;-(
[20:03:00] laga: amorphix: it is rather annoying. oh, and you should read up on sarcasm ;)
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[20:03:00] kormoc: amorphix, myth's website has a listing of what hardware works with it. if it's not on the list, it's not supported.
[20:03:00] amorphix: ok thanks i will go check there then
[20:03:00] amorphix: seen as i annoy everyone
[20:03:00] ** amorphix goes off **
[20:04:00] Alan66: laga i realize not the appropriate chan, but what suggestion would you ahve for DboxII (Sportster?)
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[20:06:00] laga: Alan66: i use yadi, from dboxupdate.berlios.de. and i don't want to use sportster since it comes with software for circumventing encryption, iirc
[20:06:00] Alan66: ahhh i see...
[20:06:00] Alan66: so circumventing encryption is iirc?
[20:07:00] flex1grip: someone know where info on using mythtv with a cablebox is? url?
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[20:07:00] laga: Alan66: huh? do you know what "iirc" means?
[20:07:00] kahuna_: lol
[20:08:00] flex1grip: nevermind i think i found it
[20:08:00] Alan66: nope :)
[20:08:00] Alan66: ooops :(
[20:08:00] Alan66: nope
[20:08:00] kahuna_: laga, who cares as long as you don't circumvent the decryption?
[20:08:00] amorphix: http://pvrhw.goldfish.org <-- this is good
[20:08:00] kahuna_: What's that all about?
[20:09:00] amorphix: its a PVR database of cards
[20:09:00] kahuna_: I see
[20:09:00] laga: kahuna_: not me, but some people probably do. maybe even alan66.
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[20:10:00] zaps: hi room
[20:11:00] Alan66: i'm confused...
[20:11:00] laga: Alan66: IIRC means "if i recall correctly"
[20:11:00] Alan66: ahh i see...
[20:12:00] Alan66: laga I believe it does have software to circumvent the encryption however I have not known any other english imgaes that I could load all to the box...
[20:12:00] zaps: I have a sound problem, encoded sound is popping anyone had this problem ?
[20:14:00] Alan66: laga this link gives a how to for mythtv on dbox2 ( I believe) is this false? http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-singlehtml.html#ss22.22
[20:14:00] laga: Alan66: my image has a lot of localisations. english is possible as well.
[20:15:00] laga: Alan66: i wrote it, i don't know what could be wrong with it. works fine forme.
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[20:21:00] kahuna_: laga: he probably doesn't want it 'cuase it doesn't have N2 support :-P
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[20:23:00] laga: kahuna_: N2?
[20:23:00] laga: nagravision?
[20:23:00] kahuna_: yah
[20:24:00] laga: N2 hasn't been cracked yet.
[20:24:00] kahuna_: Not really, but it's been emulated. And keys have been read off of cards.
[20:25:00] xris: laga: not true, actually
[20:25:00] laga: xris: really? oh, i'm pity for the big media companies.
[20:25:00] Hoxzer: :D
[20:25:00] Hoxzer: can I somehow reinstall mythtv-database?
[20:25:00] Hoxzer: or repair it
[20:25:00] Hoxzer: just messed it up
[20:26:00] xris: there are people who are using it with myth, but you won't get any help here about it.
[20:26:00] kahuna_: Were good boys here. That's bad boy talk :P
[20:27:00] zaps: mysqladmin -p drop databasename
[20:27:00] amorphix: hi
[20:28:00] kahuna_: Hi
[20:29:00] zaps: Hoxzer:killall -9 mythbackend && mysqladmin -p drop mythconverg && mythbackend -d
[20:29:00] Hoxzer: zaps: and that should fix it and I would be able to setup my channels again
[20:29:00] Hoxzer: ?
[20:30:00] kahuna_: How much CPU does kernel deinterlacing use @640x480 on a standard Live Tv?
[20:30:00] zaps: yes but try mythtv-setup first if its just a channel issue
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[20:30:00] kahuna_: Hoxzer: you need to do mysql -u mythtv -p < mc.sql too
[20:31:00] zaps: on my 2.4p4 40–80% @ 3300bps
[20:31:00] kahuna_: To recreate the dropped database
[20:31:00] kahuna_: 80%?
[20:31:00] kahuna_: wow
[20:31:00] Hoxzer: zaps: ok
[20:31:00] zaps: ive got a really bad main board thou
[20:32:00] drose: anyone using a pvr-350 /
[20:32:00] zaps: MSI blows !
[20:32:00] drose: with audio out from 350 into line in of soundcard?
[20:32:00] kahuna_: Yup. I agree on that
[20:32:00] zaps: least there VIA chipsets do =)
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[20:32:00] kahuna_: I hear bad things about VIA chipsets
[20:33:00] zaps: got a 865pe chipset coming tomarrow
[20:34:00] otwin: talking about chipsets: what should i choose for my new amd-based backend? nvidia/sis/via...
[20:34:00] kormoc: nvidia
[20:34:00] otwin: what *chipset
[20:34:00] zaps: ive got a DCT1700 to line in might beable to help
[20:35:00] kormoc: otwin, nforce with a nvidia video card
[20:35:00] kahuna_: I'm a staunch fan of PCChips mobos
[20:36:00] zaps: abit here =)
[20:36:00] kormoc: sis and via chipsets have issues a lot of the time.
[20:36:00] otwin: kormoc: i´ll use an old video card, as i only need it for installation -> backend only
[20:36:00] kormoc: otwin, fair nuff :)
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[20:36:00] zaps: AMD's are bad at video encoding =/
[20:36:00] otwin: have bad experience with via too...
[20:37:00] kahuna_: I'm kidding. PCChips is horrible...
[20:37:00] kahuna_: I like asus and abit the most
[20:37:00] zaps: i got a bad bacth of p4800
[20:37:00] zaps: from asus
[20:37:00] otwin: this would be my first amd system – any reason to avoid 64-bit? are apt-repositories complete?
[20:37:00] zaps: so i went to abit
[20:38:00] kahuna_: How many abits have you purchased?
[20:38:00] zaps: between work and home , 20 or so
[20:39:00] kahuna_: They've all worked out great then I take it.
[20:39:00] zaps: all but one , RMA'd it took less then 2 weeks for a replacement
[20:39:00] kahuna_: good deal
[20:40:00] kahuna_: Anyone have an opinion of MSI mobos?
[20:40:00] zaps: they blow =)
[20:41:00] zaps: I have a PT880 , worst main board i ever owned
[20:41:00] otwin: zaps: you say amd´s are bad at encoding. what cpu would match a p4–2.4ghz for encoding?
[20:41:00] zaps: cant get DDR400 to work in it , im stuck @ 333
[20:41:00] kahuna_: I have an MSI board that I can't even fit a stick of corsair DDR into
[20:42:00] kahuna_: I had to go thru a bunch of old DDR just to find a stick that would fit.
[20:42:00] zaps: CMX256A ?
[20:42:00] kahuna_: Nope. S45G
[20:42:00] zaps: i got a pair here , i cant get working
[20:43:00] zaps: otwin; i wouldnt know havent built a AMD in a year or so
[20:43:00] kahuna_: It got great reviews on Toms Hardware, but I'm thinking that Tom's exists only to create advertising revenue.
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[20:44:00] laga: kahuna_: do you remember the story where they got their hands on a brand-new not-yet-released intel processor? some people found out they actually had an engineering sample and overclocked it.
[20:45:00] kahuna_: what a scam...
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[20:45:00] laga: i don't like them. but they have same useful tools. you can compare CPUs on their website, for example.
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[20:49:00] laga: i hope someone with some xvmc knowledge is around. is xvmc compatible with any of the deinterlacing filters in mythtv?
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[20:50:00] blackfeet: hi
[20:50:00] blackfeet: does somebody know if i can run mythtv over esd?
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[20:58:00] smoke__: anyone know anyhting about the program guide not showing up when you hit it?
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[21:00:00] kormoc: Nope, but I know I wouldn't show up anymore after I've been hit.
[21:00:00] smoke__: hit?
[21:01:00] kormoc: hit, aka punched, aka joke
[21:01:00] smoke__: i see. :)
[21:02:00] laga: *cough*
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[21:12:00] zaps: I still have a popping sound on mythtv encoded audio only , Ive recomplied lame, swithed to uncompressed, reboot, Im currently rebuilding the kernel .. has anyone else had this issue using a SB live! card ?
[21:12:00] zaps: 2.6.8.13 kernel
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[21:16:00] Hoxzer: zaps: help me
[21:16:00] Hoxzer: math is haard ;((
[21:17:00] Hoxzer: what is x if x^²+_/3x-6=0
[21:17:00] Hoxzer: I have calculated something like x(x+_/3)=6
[21:18:00] Hoxzer: answer should be x = _/3 or x=-2_/3
[21:19:00] laga: 7join #homework
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[21:19:00] Hoxzer: laga: arent you smart enought to calculate that ^^?
[21:20:00] levon: lol
[21:20:00] laga: Hoxzer: i cant even read that
[21:20:00] levon: lol²
[21:20:00] Krazylegz: #math is a good place.
[21:20:00] Hoxzer: man you have to be able to read ;(
[21:22:00] laga: what does +_/3x-6 mean?
[21:22:00] zaps: +
[21:23:00] levon: hm, honestly.... I don't know what the "_" stands for either...
[21:24:00] laga: it's kind of confusing
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[21:27:00] drose: anyone here using a pvr-350?
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[21:58:00] ** xris wonders how Beirdo's "vacation" is going **
[21:58:00] Rince: too well :)
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[21:59:00] laga: hehe
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[22:04:00] xris: well, I assume he got stranded by the hurricane or something
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[22:05:00] GreyFoxx: He bypassed it
[22:05:00] xris: oh?
[22:05:00] xris: did he change his flight plan?
[22:05:00] GreyFoxx: yeah, flew threw another city
[22:05:00] xris: thought he was only supposed to be there through the weekend.
[22:05:00] GreyFoxx: or he said he was gonna
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[22:07:00] ** xris bemoans the stupid music industry **
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[22:08:00] ** xris thinks of a really good mythweb/nuvexport payback contribution from someone in .be **
[22:09:00] xris: Krazylegz: so I finally hired someone. from lancaster... OH
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[22:25:00] kahuna_: Anyone here build and sell myth boxes?
[22:25:00] Dark`-`: Dell
[22:26:00] kahuna_: Is dell here? We'll I'll be damned.
[22:26:00] Dark`-`: lol
[22:29:00] kormoc: kahuna_, people do, but noone really makes money off of them
[22:29:00] drose: any 350 users here?
[22:30:00] kahuna_: I see PVR boxes up on ebay quite often
[22:30:00] Dark`-`: lol
[22:31:00] Dark`-`: how much?
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[22:31:00] kahuna_: Too much.
[22:32:00] kahuna_: Like $800 when you could buy retail off the shelf for 500–600
[22:32:00] kormoc: exactly
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[22:37:00] Krazylegz: xris: WHAT?!
[22:37:00] Krazylegz: Oh, Ohio. Good job. :-)
[22:37:00] xris: heh
[22:37:00] Krazylegz: That's Lan-cast-er. Not Lanc-uster.
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[22:41:00] kormoc: next minion will be from Lancaster, CA
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[22:42:00] sskk: Why can't I work like the apple UI designers... Have you guys seen the newly released FrontRow software? – awesome...
[22:43:00] sskk: Here's a movie showing some of it: http://www.tuaw.com/files/2005/10/FrontRowOnMacMini.m4v
[22:44:00] sskk: Has anyone got an idea if it will be possible to make something just close to that as a myth theme?
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[22:47:00] dougl: does anyone use mythtv with dishnet?
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[22:58:00] Led-Hed: drose, I'm a pvr-350 user?
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[22:59:00] _Nero_: sskk- not currently, but with the ui re-write (going to OGL) it may be..
[23:01:00] sskk: _Nero_ OK.. Is that the change that is mentioned as part of the 0.20 milestone?
[23:02:00] laga: yep
[23:02:00] Krazylegz: Whoa. I don't want to ask about the timeframe for THAT.
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[23:05:00] smoke__: anyone have a problem with their program guide not coming up? and what package do i need to get the visualizations to work with mythmusic?
[23:07:00] Alan66: guys.. quick question if my ip (NTL) is banned from a network.. can I overcome this with any software?
[23:12:00] kormoc: Alan66, no
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[23:12:00] Alan66: :(
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[23:18:00] sskk: May I ask what mythtv and mythweb theme you guys are using?
[23:19:00] laga: julius or gant for mythtv and the default theme for mythweb
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[23:25:00] GreyFoxx: sskk: I currently use a custom myth theme, and the default mythweb theme. But use to prefer the myth Blue theme
[23:25:00] pookSter: dougl
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[23:25:00] pookSter: you around?
[23:25:00] dougl: yes
[23:26:00] pookSter: you have a card do you?
[23:26:00] dougl: iso card?
[23:26:00] sskk: GreyFoxx: So you have customized it yourself? – have you changed it dramatically, or just minor changes?
[23:26:00] pookSter: no, a dsb card for the mythtv box
[23:26:00] GreyFoxx: sskk: Quite different
[23:27:00] pookSter: Hey GreyFoxx...hows it today?
[23:27:00] GreyFoxx: Whenever the MythUI changes are in the works I'll finish working on it
[23:27:00] GreyFoxx: pookSter: Rain suckls
[23:27:00] GreyFoxx: -l
[23:27:00] dougl: a dvb-s (twinhan vp1020a) with all the modules installed
[23:27:00] pookSter: heh...same here
[23:27:00] pookSter: almost like winter
[23:27:00] pookSter: bah
[23:28:00] dougl: winter... huh... i was painting in the darn snow last week – outside!
[23:28:00] pookSter: snow.....don't want to hear about it!
[23:28:00] GreyFoxx: sskk: http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/theme/ lots to do yet
[23:28:00] pookSter: have you gotten your card to work at all dougi?
[23:29:00] pookSter: just curious as I am going to pick one up soon for dish
[23:29:00] kahuna_: dougl, I have NASA working on DN.
[23:29:00] kahuna_: We can't talk about anything other than FTA here though.
[23:29:00] pookSter: just all the fta stuff kahuna?
[23:30:00] pookSter: ah, gotya
[23:30:00] dougl: pookSter: the thing I am having trouble with is ... yes hardware works ok under windows but all I can do in linux is load the modules so far, but the hardware is working in it's current config... 1 diseqc and 2 lnb
[23:30:00] dougl: kahuna_: that is what I am shooting for.
[23:30:00] dougl: even a successful transponder scan
[23:30:00] kahuna_: Have you tried szap yet?
[23:31:00] dougl: szap, no not me
[23:31:00] kahuna_: Try putting this in your ~/.szap/channels.conf NASA:12296:h:S119.0W:20000:5922:5923:0:0:213:4100: 6:10000
[23:31:00] kahuna_: Of course you need the current tp and pid values. That's really old.
[23:31:00] pookSter: kahuna...what card are (you not) using to watch dish :)
[23:31:00] sskk: GreyFoxx: thanks for the peek – looking interesting – Could you give a guess on the number of hours/days/month spend creating the theme so far?
[23:32:00] kahuna_: I'm using a skystar2. I can get dish, IA6, whatever.
[23:32:00] kahuna_: I don't have a motor yet though.
[23:32:00] kahuna_: check lyngsat for the current tp and pids for NASA, dougl
[23:32:00] pookSter: Greyfox...nice and clean looking
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[23:33:00] pookSter: multi lnb on your dish then?
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[23:34:00] pookSter: I haven't decided which way to go yet
[23:34:00] dougl: kahuna_: k thanks...
[23:34:00] kahuna_: You should be able to get a lock, then try playing with mplayer. I think it's something like mplayer -vo vx -cache 30000 IIRC
[23:34:00] kahuna_: I have a few dishes.
[23:34:00] GreyFoxx: sskk: 2 or 3 evenings. Mostly just learning how the themes work. but the backgrounds are from Project Mayhem 3, I did some minor graphical changes
[23:35:00] kahuna_: My least favorite that I've gotten to work is a dishpro. I can't really get anything with it though.
[23:35:00] dougl: doesn't mythtv scan the transponders and just let u watch the free to air stuff?
[23:36:00] smoke__: anyone here know anything about the program guide not coming up when you hit it?
[23:36:00] smoke__: it just shows the background ...
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[23:36:00] kahuna_: yes. myth does that. What kind of dish and LNB do you have?
[23:36:00] GreyFoxx: dougl: Yeah
[23:36:00] pookSter: could that have something to do with the transperency setting smoke?
[23:36:00] smoke__: pookSter, k
[23:36:00] smoke__: pookSter, ill look
[23:36:00] pookSter: I don'tknow
[23:37:00] pookSter: Its just what I think I read somewhere
[23:38:00] dougl: kahuna_: I have dishes with diseqc and lnb set up on 110 and 119.
[23:40:00] GreyFoxx: Hrm, should I break the ATARI section out to ATARI 2600, 7200 and 7800 or just keep them all in a "ATARI"
[23:41:00] kahuna_: You should be all set to scan then, provided you have the correct diseqc settings in myth.
[23:42:00] kahuna_: It's not a dishpro is it?
[23:42:00] ** pookSter wishes kahuna could pm him lol **
[23:42:00] kahuna_: Well I would but I'm at work right now about to leave in a min.
[23:42:00] dougl: yes I do... and not the one with the sw21 or what ever... diseqc 1.0
[23:43:00] pookSter: np
[23:43:00] dougl: but I have no transponders defined... can I use the ini files from my windows apps?
[23:44:00] pookSter: the wife seems to be warming up on the mythbox idea......got her hooked on TuxRacer :)
[23:44:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[23:44:00] dougl: my family loves linux
[23:44:00] GreyFoxx: I've had my grandmother running a Linux desktop since ~99
[23:45:00] pookSter: I found I have to ease them into things or ideas are regected
[23:45:00] GreyFoxx: My GF loves myth but would never use Linux on her desktop :)
[23:45:00] malaTG: lol
[23:45:00] kahuna_: dougl then you need to manually enter all of the L transponders on 119. Set them to Circular R, then set the value 25600000-(the original value)
[23:46:00] kahuna_: Dishpro uses bandstacking technology that I don't quite understand yet, but I do know you have to enter the L tp's manually because they wont be picked up in a scan.
[23:46:00] dougl: and this info is avail from lyngsat? ...
[23:46:00] malaTG: so what is latest rumour on the 0.19 release?
[23:47:00] dougl: I have always used a list (file) with transponder info in it already on windows apps
[23:47:00] kahuna_: not the info about equipment, no.
[23:47:00] GreyFoxx: malaTG: Not much rumoured :)
[23:47:00] malaTG: oki :-)
[23:47:00] dougl: I will use the transponder nasa is on and see what happens?
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[23:48:00] kahuna_: dougl: sure. If you need a list of tps on 119, google for "phobos dvb na apps". I think the site is phobos.ca or something lke that
[23:48:00] malaTG: I looked at some pictures of the new mythgame on your link GreyFoxx looks really great
[23:49:00] kahuna_: I think he has a list of echostar tps
[23:49:00] GreyFoxx: malaTG: I like it. I'm working on a rommeta data database right now
[23:49:00] kahuna_: I cant wait to get mythgame set up :)
[23:49:00] malaTG: cool
[23:49:00] kahuna_: My kids will love me.
[23:49:00] GreyFoxx: I've got close to 200k roms in it
[23:49:00] dougl: kahuna_: thanks
[23:49:00] kahuna_: np
[23:50:00] malaTG: hehe see if you even can start everyone just ones :-)
[23:50:00] GreyFoxx: well I suppose it's currently closer to 170k
[23:50:00] malaTG: a play for 2 sec
[23:50:00] kahuna_: you own all those games? :P
[23:50:00] GreyFoxx: well this is just a big rom database of meta data. names, year, platform, maker, file size, crc, country, etc etc
[23:51:00] kahuna_: I see.
[23:51:00] GreyFoxx: I've been gathering it and incorporateing into a single source
[23:51:00] kahuna_: Wow. I'll have to check it out.
[23:51:00] malaTG: that is really good!!
[23:51:00] GreyFoxx: and what I can't find info for I've found code to get some of it from the roms themselves
[23:51:00] kahuna_: See you all later.
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[23:52:00] GreyFoxx: The hardest thing is finding "Genre" info as it's more subjective :)
[23:52:00] malaTG: yeaa the genre on some mame games are seriously obscure.......
[23:53:00] GreyFoxx: well I don't mind grabbing thouse for now, but SNES, NES, PCE etc are harder to find
[23:54:00] malaTG: ok
[23:54:00] pookSter: does mame work good on the box?
[23:54:00] malaTG: really good in my opinion
[23:55:00] pookSter: good...lots of favorites in that bunch from years ago
[23:56:00] malaTG: yea I sat a new world record on track and field long jump yesterday :-)
[23:56:00] ** pookSter sees himself installing multiple frontends around the house just so he can watch a bit of tv away from the gamers **
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