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| [00:24:00] | jave: | is it possible to add metadata for a movie on the commandline? |
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| [00:30:00] | PaulWay: | Hi all! |
| [00:30:00] | jemarcks: | hey... is Freshrpms hosed today? |
| [00:31:00] | PaulWay: | Let's have a look here... |
| [00:32:00] | PaulWay: | While I look, answer me this: is there anyway to get transcode to not segfault if something goes wrong in its reading stream? |
| [00:32:00] | PaulWay: | jemarcks: Freshrpms looks OK to me here in .au... |
| [00:33:00] | jemarcks: | hmmm... |
| [00:33:00] | PaulWay: | what's going wrong with Freshrpms for you? |
| [00:33:00] | jemarcks: | No Match for argument: nvidia-graphics7667-kmdl-2.6.13–1.1532_FC4smp |
| [00:33:00] | jemarcks: | Nothing to do |
| [00:34:00] | jemarcks: | I am doing a fresh FC4 install of mythtv today using jarods guide. |
| [00:34:00] | jemarcks: | the nvidia driver isnt being found |
| [00:34:00] | PaulWay: | Do you know where in the US it's hosted? |
| [00:34:00] | jemarcks: | nope |
| [00:34:00] | jemarcks: | yum upgrade worked after I installed fc4 |
| [00:34:00] | PaulWay: | Because sometimes I've had problems with it and all of its mirrors and its fixed itself in an hour or two, and I figured that it was half-way through some important update. |
| [00:35:00] | PaulWay: | And now you're getting this. |
| [00:35:00] | PaulWay: | BTW, are you running a dual-processor or dual core machine? |
| [00:35:00] | jemarcks: | yeah... thats what i thought... |
| [00:35:00] | jemarcks: | Im running a P4 single core wiht HT |
| [00:35:00] | PaulWay: | If so, what type – I like being jealous... :-) |
| [00:35:00] | jemarcks: | 2.8G |
| [00:35:00] | PaulWay: | Oh, OK. |
| [00:36:00] | jemarcks: | 512k ram, 160G disk |
| [00:37:00] | jemarcks: | soon.... the 'many core' machines will come... hehehe |
| [00:37:00] | PaulWay: | Yeah, that's what I'm hanging out for. |
| [00:38:00] | PaulWay: | Mind you, between now and then I hope a lot more software becomes multi-threaded. |
| [00:38:00] | jemarcks: | true... a lot of it is just 'recompiled' so it doesnt take advantage of new features |
| [00:38:00] | PaulWay: | The games are going to be the hardest – the game writers have pretty much said that using both processors is a _big_ challenge. |
| [00:39:00] | jemarcks: | true... unless you start from scratch |
| [00:39:00] | PaulWay: | Well, they're going to say 'takes advantage of new processor features' meaning 'we recompiled it with a compiler that supported using it, so it must have made it faster!' |
| [00:40:00] | jemarcks: | lol.. yeah right |
| [00:40:00] | PaulWay: | The problem for the game writers is that it's very much a linear process – get input from user, decide on where everything has moved to, render screen, display, repeat. |
| [00:41:00] | PaulWay: | The 'render screen' is the part that's hardest, and that chews up 80% of the CPU time per frame; you have to split _that_ across two processors to get the real speedup. |
| [00:41:00] | PaulWay: | Anyway. |
| [00:41:00] | PaulWay: | Have you used transcode much? |
| [00:42:00] | jemarcks: | not much yet |
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| [00:43:00] | jemarcks: | it wasnt working right on my last backend box that i setup back in May. Then, last week, it crashed and I had to do a total rebuild |
| [00:43:00] | PaulWay: | !!! What happened? |
| [00:43:00] | jemarcks: | hence, im here today |
| [00:44:00] | jemarcks: | ummm... well i tried to su root and it said 'no such use' :O |
| [00:44:00] | jemarcks: | no such user |
| [00:44:00] | PaulWay: | I have a feeling that the power supply I got with the Antec case (350W) is not up to driving three drives, two DTV cards, an Athlon 3200 and the rest of the system. |
| [00:44:00] | PaulWay: | oooh, that's got to be bad. |
| [00:44:00] | PaulWay: | what did /etc/passwd say? |
| [00:44:00] | jemarcks: | i think you may be at the limit too |
| [00:44:00] | jemarcks: | i couldnt access it |
| [00:45:00] | jemarcks: | rebooting just caused lots of rc.d/ error line number bla bla illegal instruction.... |
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| [00:46:00] | jemarcks: | i tried for hours to recover it but couldnt.. . |
| [00:46:00] | PaulWay: | Yeah, that sounds like something went tragically wrong with the file system – I take it fsck tried and failed to get it working again. |
| [00:47:00] | jemarcks: | how do you restart nfs? |
| [00:47:00] | PaulWay: | um, service nfs restart |
| [00:47:00] | jemarcks: | i updated fstab.... do i have to restart it? |
| [00:47:00] | PaulWay: | you're mounting a remote nfs share that you've just put in fstab? |
| [00:48:00] | jemarcks: | no.. im exporting my /video dir to my frontend who mounts it |
| [00:49:00] | PaulWay: | Righto. So you've updated the fstab on the remote machine and the exports file on the local machine and you want to restart nfs to share the new mount point? |
| [00:49:00] | jemarcks: | already done |
| [00:50:00] | PaulWay: | OK, I'm a bit puzzled by what you're doing. |
| [00:50:00] | PaulWay: | This probably means it's still too early in the morning for me. |
| [00:51:00] | PaulWay: | You've got the exported share in /etc/exports on the server but it's not being shared yet? |
| [00:51:00] | jemarcks: | trying to export my /video partion |
| [00:53:00] | PaulWay: | So you've got /video in your /etc/exports on the server, and /video in your /etc/fstab on the client – good so far? |
| [00:54:00] | jemarcks: | im working on what to put in my /etc/exports file |
| [00:54:00] | PaulWay: | If you're still working it out, try using system-config-nfs as root. |
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| [01:00:00] | PaulWay: | How's that going? |
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| [01:00:00] | jemarcks: | /etc/exports has /video nugget(rw,insecure,all_squash) |
| [01:00:00] | jemarcks: | this is on my master backend im building |
| [01:01:00] | PaulWay: | righto – did you do that in service-config-nfs? If so, it'll automatically have restarted nfs to start it sharing. |
| [01:01:00] | PaulWay: | Otherwise I think you have to do a service nfs restart |
| [01:01:00] | jemarcks: | i did that manually |
| [01:01:00] | jemarcks: | the frontend /etc/fstab has htpc1:/video /video nfs auto 0 0 |
| [01:02:00] | jemarcks: | the frontend still doesnt see it |
| [01:02:00] | PaulWay: | righto, then – have you created the directory /video on nugget? |
| [01:02:00] | jemarcks: | :/ |
| [01:02:00] | jemarcks: | no. /video is on the backend |
| [01:02:00] | jemarcks: | i want nugget to mount it |
| [01:03:00] | PaulWay: | But in order to mount it, you need a mount point, which is a directory with the same name as the mount point. |
| [01:03:00] | PaulWay: | So to mount /video on nugget (from anywhere), you have to make a /video directory. |
| [01:03:00] | PaulWay: | Then mount fools the file system into thinking that references to that directory actually go through nfs. |
| [01:03:00] | PaulWay: | instead of looking on the disk, e.g. |
| [01:04:00] | jemarcks: | yes, i have a /video dir on nugget. its empty |
| [01:04:00] | jemarcks: | how do i make nugget mount it |
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| [01:04:00] | jemarcks: | nfs restart? |
| [01:05:00] | PaulWay: | I think I know the problem here – have you reconfigured the firewall on htpc1 to allow nugget to access NFS? |
| [01:05:00] | jemarcks: | i disabled the firewall |
| [01:05:00] | PaulWay: | Ah. |
| [01:05:00] | PaulWay: | If you haven't already done so, do "service nfs restart" on htpc12 |
| [01:05:00] | PaulWay: | s/12/1/ |
| [01:06:00] | jemarcks: | ok... its restarted... lots of green [ok] |
| [01:06:00] | PaulWay: | Righto. |
| [01:06:00] | PaulWay: | I take it this is on a LAN that's protected from the internet by a suitable firewall... :-) |
| [01:07:00] | jemarcks: | yep... a dlink router |
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| [01:08:00] | PaulWay: | You've changed the default password and all that? I've heard of several script kiddie attacks using the default remote password on them to bypass the firewall completely. |
| [01:08:00] | PaulWay: | Anyway, I'm sure you're aware of internet security :-) |
| [01:08:00] | PaulWay: | I've been dealing with newbies too much. |
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| [01:09:00] | jemarcks: | not to worry.. its locked down |
| [01:12:00] | PaulWay: | Can you mount it now? |
| [01:12:00] | jemarcks: | nugget still isnt seeing it |
| [01:12:00] | PaulWay: | Hmmm – I need to go and have breakfast and get working. |
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| [01:12:00] | PaulWay: | Does it give you an error message? |
| [01:13:00] | jemarcks: | ok.. .ill get this.. i did it once before |
| [01:13:00] | jemarcks: | think i will try a reboot |
| [01:13:00] | PaulWay: | The way I'd proceed is to run ethereal on nugget and see if it's a protocol problem. |
| [01:13:00] | jemarcks: | i wouldnt know how to do that |
| [01:14:00] | jemarcks: | brb |
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| [01:14:00] | PaulWay: | Ethereal is a packet sniffer – very useful for watching the actual transaction between two hosts and seeing what's going back and forth. It will even look inside NFS packets to tell you protocol information. Learn about it, it's your friend. |
| [01:15:00] | PaulWay: | BTW, my exports have (rw,sync,nohide,all_squash) |
| [01:15:00] | PaulWay: | Take it easy, and /msg me if you have further problems. |
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| [01:15:00] | jemarcks: | ok, thanks |
| [01:17:00] | jemarcks: | paulway, it works! :D |
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| [01:24:00] | jd86: | how do i switch which tuner i'm watching with?.. and i switched over to using svid in on my hauppague wintv-go card, instead of analog cable and serial to change channels, well... now my mpeg2 encoder card is all fuzzy when i watch tv... what could that be because of? |
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| [01:24:00] | Hoxzer: | how long should it take to scan schannels? |
| [01:24:00] | Hoxzer: | channels |
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| [02:53:00] | banyan: | Hey, has anyone in here ever had trouble with a pvr-250 coming up with a "no encoder mailbox" error? |
| [02:54:00] | NightMonkey: | banyan: Nope, what version of ivtv+firmware? |
| [02:56:00] | NightMonkey: | banyan: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine? . . . rch_type=AND |
| [02:58:00] | NightMonkey: | Thank you, please drive through. |
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| [03:09:00] | banyan: | Ah, I wish it was really that simple. I have a 350 working just fine and the 250 should be able to take the same firmware. Yet it chokes on looking for the mailbox. This is a software thing inside the card which this card says it doesn't have. |
| [03:09:00] | banyan: | The only think I've been able to find at all about this issue is switching PCI slots, which did nothing for me. |
| [03:09:00] | banyan: | Not to say that I don't appreciate your assistance. |
| [03:10:00] | triplep: | mySQL is the devil |
| [03:10:00] | ** banyan pets the monkey. Nice monkey... ** | |
| [03:10:00] | banyan: | triplep, are you having a billion selinux headaches with it? |
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| [03:12:00] | triplep: | i'm having an unpleaseant password:YES issuse with it |
| [03:12:00] | banyan: | hmm. |
| [03:12:00] | triplep: | i think it's mostly cause i don't know the workings of mySQL |
| [03:13:00] | banyan: | so your myth can't log into mysql? |
| [03:13:00] | triplep: | exactly, all local |
| [03:14:00] | banyan: | Do you know what the password is set to? |
| [03:14:00] | triplep: | the root PW or mythtv? i'm presuming mythtv |
| [03:16:00] | banyan: | The mysql user and password. You can test this by logging in to the thing. mysql -u <user name> -p<password> mythconverg. There's no space between the -p and the password. |
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| [03:16:00] | banyan: | By default the user name is mythtv. |
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| [03:17:00] | banyan: | Oh crap, sorry, that's wrong. the default user name is mysql. |
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| [03:17:00] | triplep: | i used... grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"%" identified by "mythtv"; |
| [03:18:00] | banyan: | And I suppose the default password is either mysql or blank. |
| [03:19:00] | triplep: | i just logged in using mythtv/mythtv |
| [03:19:00] | triplep: | from the terminal, not through mythfrontend |
| [03:19:00] | banyan: | Cool, so you should be able to stick that in your mythtv setup. |
| [03:19:00] | banyan: | OK. |
| [03:20:00] | triplep: | now i'm getting cnnection timed out errors.... |
| [03:20:00] | ** triplep whacks head on the keyboard ** | |
| [03:21:00] | triplep: | i can feel the closeness... i'm just probably doing something silly that is preventing sucess |
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| [03:21:00] | banyan: | that probably means that you're trying on the wrong port. |
| [03:21:00] | triplep: | i left it at 6543 |
| [03:22:00] | banyan: | Hm, that's the mythbackend port. |
| [03:22:00] | banyan: | The mysql port is, I'm not sure what. |
| [03:22:00] | triplep: | or do you mean the mysql port |
| [03:22:00] | triplep: | one sec, i have the terminal |
| [03:22:00] | banyan: | Oh, you can't connect from the frontend to the backend/ |
| [03:23:00] | triplep: | yes |
| [03:23:00] | triplep: | i mean yes that's my problem... to clarify |
| [03:23:00] | banyan: | Hmm, that's maybe not necessarily mysql related. |
| [03:24:00] | triplep: | i think i might actually be past the mysql follies now |
| [03:25:00] | triplep: | it's all runnuing localhost though, is there any reason a localhost would refuse a localhost connection? |
| [03:25:00] | banyan: | sure, if you have a firewall. |
| [03:25:00] | cosmo_: | are you running a firewall? |
| [03:26:00] | triplep: | i just switched distros, so i don't know all the niceities ... ubuntu |
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| [03:26:00] | banyan: | It might be ipchains. |
| [03:27:00] | banyan: | or sorry iptables. |
| [03:29:00] | triplep: | k, i'm gonna need to read a sec to bring myself up to speed |
| [03:29:00] | jemarcks: | anybody having trouble with installing using yum tonite? |
| [03:29:00] | fman: | anyone able to help with xmame under myth |
| [03:29:00] | fman: | I've got a bunch of roms in the correct directory, loaded catver.ini but no games show up |
| [03:30:00] | banyan: | some of the mirrors seem to be borked. |
| [03:30:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, howdy |
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| [03:33:00] | banyan: | Have there been any updates in the last couple of days? |
| [03:34:00] | triplep: | so i'll need something like 'iptables -D -s 127.0.0.1 -p tcp -j ACCEPT' ? |
| [03:35:00] | banyan: | Hmm. |
| [03:36:00] | ShockValue: | so, I want to rip some of my dvd's leaving them at 100% quality with AC3 audio. is mythdvd the best tool for the job, or are there other options I should consider? |
| [03:36:00] | triplep: | looking to see how i print the rulsets now, |
| [03:36:00] | jemarcks: | xris, howdy |
| [03:37:00] | ShockValue: | and i figured out how to import movies into my main mythbox without hooking up a keyboard to it.... Use this machine as a frontend :)_ |
| [03:38:00] | triplep: | banyan : iptables has no rules in it ATM |
| [03:41:00] | banyan: | hm, so this wouldn't be your issue. |
| [03:41:00] | banyan: | well, shockvalue, I'd probably just use dvdunauthor. |
| [03:41:00] | ShockValue: | banyan: i havent heard of that.. let me look it up, thanks |
| [03:45:00] | jemarcks: | http://ftp.ipv6.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.redh . . . /repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError: <urlopen error (101, 'Network is unreachable')> |
| [03:45:00] | jemarcks: | Trying other mirror. |
| [03:45:00] | jemarcks: | GRRRRRR |
| [03:45:00] | triplep: | http://pastebin.ca/26343 is the output generated by running mythfrontend |
| [03:47:00] | ShockValue: | banyan: i see lots of info on dvdauthor, but nothing about what dvdunauthor specifically does... does that come in the same package as dvdauthor? |
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| [03:51:00] | banyan: | it does |
| [03:51:00] | triplep: | ouch |
| [03:51:00] | banyan: | it rips the contents. |
| [03:52:00] | triplep: | i just had a series of events unleash on me |
| [03:52:00] | ShockValue: | banyan: thanks, checking it out now |
| [03:53:00] | triplep: | banyan: let's for a second pretend that i'm not a dumbass and didn't forget to start the mythbackend server |
| [03:54:00] | ShockValue: | dag nab it.. mythdvd keeps ripping my cd's in the wrong language :) |
| [03:54:00] | ShockValue: | errr dvd's |
| [03:54:00] | triplep: | when i went to watch live tv, she all locked up |
| [03:58:00] | triplep: | banyan : thanks for all of your help, turns out i'm a boob |
| [04:04:00] | ShockValue: | banyan: so, i did a dvdunauthor /dev/dvd... now my dvd player is whirring away.. what's it acutally doing? |
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| [04:09:00] | Servo888: | Anybody know if it would be possible to some how loopback mpeg video from a computer back to the hardware mpeg encoded (pvr150)? And use that to transcode out the commericals? |
| [04:11:00] | jemarcks: | xris, got a min? |
| [04:11:00] | NightMonkey: | ShockValue: Howdy. You might be interested in using some ohter tools for authoring. |
| [04:11:00] | NightMonkey: | ShockValue: I put this together: https://www.ilikelinux.com/howto/pvr3502dvd/ |
| [04:12:00] | NightMonkey: | ShockValue: But, I dunno what your setup is, so it might not be well matched. |
| [04:12:00] | banyan: | shockvalue: it's creating a directory called DVD which is getting filled with the contents of the DVD. |
| [04:12:00] | NightMonkey: | ShockValue: Not that the mythtv.org docs instructions don't also work. :) |
| [04:12:00] | ShockValue: | not really interested in "authoring" per se.. Im just trying to rip the dvd's to a file in full quality.. MythDVD is working ok, but i dont want to miss out on other tools if they're available for that |
| [04:12:00] | banyan: | One of those things will be a great huge VOB file, which is the movie. |
| [04:12:00] | NightMonkey: | ShockValue: Ah, you're ripping. My bad. |
| [04:14:00] | jd86: | ever since i switched my spare tuner from using tuner in to svideo in, with cable box.. my mpeg2 pvr150 has crappy looking channels... with fuzz on some |
| [04:14:00] | banyan: | I'd like to check that out, NightMonkey. |
| [04:14:00] | banyan: | I've had some questionable luck with AVIdemux. |
| [04:15:00] | NightMonkey: | banyan: You should use the latest version – I use 2.0.42. |
| [04:15:00] | NightMonkey: | banyan: But, like DVD authoring in general in Linux, things are a bit shaky ;). |
| [04:16:00] | NightMonkey: | But that reminds me that I need to put "Known Good" software versions on there... |
| [04:17:00] | banyan: | As apparently is also the use of wireless. |
| [04:17:00] | NightMonkey: | banyan: Yeah, other than 802.11b, which is fairly well supported. g/a isn't really ready for the primest of times... |
| [04:18:00] | ShockValue: | anyone know how to make xine choose the "en" language for the audio stream? i know you can do it with -alang en in mplayer, but i cant seem to find how to do it with xine |
| [04:22:00] | NightMonkey: | ShockValue: Hmm... sounds like a locale issue. What does the shell command "locale" give you? |
| [04:24:00] | ShockValue: | LANG= |
| [04:24:00] | ShockValue: | blank |
| [04:24:00] | banyan: | odd |
| [04:24:00] | ShockValue: | wehre is that typically set? |
| [04:24:00] | NightMonkey: | ShockValue: What's funny is that is how my desktop box is. Never had a problem, but I don't use xine. |
| [04:25:00] | NightMonkey: | ShockValue: What is "LC_ALL" set to? |
| [04:25:00] | ShockValue: | blank |
| [04:25:00] | ShockValue: | thhe rest = POSIX |
| [04:26:00] | NightMonkey: | ShockValue: Ah, I believe that must be set. I have mine as "LC_ALL=en_us", change to your local flavor. |
| [04:26:00] | NightMonkey: | ShockValue: That's distro specific where that gets set. |
| [04:27:00] | NightMonkey: | ShockValue: More info in "man locale" if you want more in-depth info. |
| [04:27:00] | ShockValue: | gracias |
| [04:28:00] | NightMonkey: | ShockValue: I'm using Gentoo, and it is in /etc/env.d/02locale. So, wherever your shell enironment vars are set is where you need to set it. |
| [04:28:00] | NightMonkey: | Ah, sorry, mine is "LC_ALL=en_US". Might matter. |
| [04:31:00] | ShockValue: | NightMonkey: i use gentoo as well.. i didnt have a 02locale file |
| [04:31:00] | NightMonkey: | ShockValue: Weird. |
| [04:31:00] | ShockValue: | so i made that file and it is now this: |
| [04:31:00] | ShockValue: | LC_ALL=en_US |
| [04:31:00] | ShockValue: | LANG=en_US |
| [04:32:00] | ShockValue: | do i need quotes around that? seems like i might |
| [04:34:00] | NightMonkey: | ShockValue: Yes. And, just fyi, that's all I have in that file. From looking at the locale docs, the LANG value is optional. LC_ALL will populate all the necessary LC_* variables. |
| [04:34:00] | NightMonkey: | ShockValue: So, yes, I have 'LC_ALL="en_US"' and that's it. |
| [04:35:00] | ShockValue: | thanks |
| [04:35:00] | NightMonkey: | ShockValue: Don't forget to do "env-update && source /etc/profile". |
| [04:35:00] | NightMonkey: | ShockValue: In all your shells. Might be best to either reboot, or restart X, if you are using it. |
| [04:35:00] | ShockValue: | yeah, i was just gonna reboot as soon as this dvd is ripped |
| [04:36:00] | ShockValue: | you are very helpfull, thanks NightMonkey :) |
| [04:36:00] | NightMonkey: | ShockValue: No sweat :). |
| [04:36:00] | ** ShockValue hands NightMonkey a beer ** | |
| [04:36:00] | NightMonkey: | Ah, beer. |
| [04:36:00] | NightMonkey: | I should have one. But my coffee is still warm. |
| [04:36:00] | ShockValue: | its ok, let the beer come up to temp a bit :) |
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| [04:43:00] | banyan: | NightMonkey — when you select a and b, and save, you save between the a and b markers, correct? |
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| [04:43:00] | banyan: | in avidemux, that is.... |
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| [04:48:00] | ShockValue: | thanks, that worked NightMonkey |
| [04:51:00] | NightMonkey: | banyan: Sorry, was not watching IRC. Let me check the doc. |
| [04:51:00] | banyan: | Well, I can check the doc. I just wondered if you knew off the top of your head. |
| [04:52:00] | banyan: | I'm removing commercials. That never used to work is why I asked. I'd select A and B and it would just look at me funny. |
| [04:52:00] | NightMonkey: | banyan: Well, yeah, my doc doesn't go into avidmux2 specifics. I think that I used those markers to indicate what to crop. |
| [04:52:00] | NightMonkey: | banyan: I think I just hit "delete". |
| [04:53:00] | NightMonkey: | banyan: And what would be between the markers would be zapped. |
| [04:53:00] | banyan: | Ah, so you could save between the markers or delete between them. |
| [04:53:00] | NightMonkey: | banyan: I think I only used them to delete. Then, the remaining file is what I save. |
| [04:55:00] | NightMonkey: | banyan: Would be nice if avidmux2 could talk to Mysql to get the cutlists... Nuvexport does that, but I never really relied on Myth's guesses for DVDs. |
| [04:55:00] | NightMonkey: | banyan: Much of avidemux2 was not intuitive – even I had to print and read their guide ;). |
| [04:56:00] | NightMonkey: | banyan: And I had to do the same for DVD Styler. Creating buttons was a mystery to me, even though DVD Styler hides things well. |
| [04:58:00] | banyan: | nuvexport is too messed up tho. |
| [04:58:00] | NightMonkey: | Now, if only k3b would just "do it all" for video DVDs... |
| [04:58:00] | banyan: | I gave up on it quite some time ago. |
| [04:59:00] | NightMonkey: | I should really flesh out the avidemux2 section of my doc, but I'd really just be duplicating much of the avidemux2 guides. And they will change, making my doc stale quickly. |
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| [05:02:00] | jono: | hi all |
| [05:02:00] | jono: | does mythtv run ok on an athlon 64? |
| [05:03:00] | NightMonkey: | banyan: Ah, I see why you might have been confused about A,B markers – the French->English translation of the docs isn't very clear... |
| [05:04:00] | jono: | anyone use mythtv in the uk? |
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| [05:11:00] | jono: | do the tv listings with xmltv work in the uk? |
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| [05:19:00] | xris: | jono: I think there's a .uk file for xmltv |
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| [05:19:00] | xris: | tv-grab-uk or something like that |
| [05:20:00] | jono: | ok |
| [05:20:00] | jono: | cool |
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| [05:29:00] | purplefrog: | Any gentoo users have any problems with the ivtv-0.4.0-r2 ebuild? I'm about to try a new kernel and 0.3.8 isn't available any more. |
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| [05:36:00] | jtwang: | anyone have experience with PIP? |
| [05:36:00] | banyan: | Now, it's growisofs <file list> |
| [05:36:00] | purplefrog: | I didn't even know MythTV could do that. |
| [05:36:00] | banyan: | is it not? |
| [05:44:00] | jtwang: | heh, it does |
| [05:44:00] | jtwang: | but the picture that's in the picture is really small |
| [05:44:00] | jtwang: | it'd be cool if it could do split screen or dynamically change the image size |
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| [06:21:00] | r2: | Q: I'm having trouble with myth not allowing me to watch live TV from a non-tuner input (i.e. composite video from my digital cable set top box); I can record from it just fine, and I finally got myth to change the channels via a program, and that works just fine, but I can't watch it live |
| [06:22:00] | r2: | any thoughts anybody? |
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| [06:23:00] | r2: | BTW: I try "c" to change the video input, and it never changes anything, it always gives me the same tuner number. When I change to a channel that is listed as only doable on the composite input, it does nothing.) |
| [06:23:00] | banyan: | you got more than one source tied to an input? |
| [06:24:00] | r2: | not that I'm aware of |
| [06:25:00] | triplep: | watching live tv isn't going so well... black screen have to ssh in and kill the frontend. ideas? |
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| [06:25:00] | r2: | triplep: are you using xvmc? if so, I had that same problem at one point (poorly configured); I disabled xvmc and it worked again |
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| [06:26:00] | triplep: | r2 : honestly, no idea |
| [06:26:00] | triplep: | lemme look |
| [06:27:00] | r2: | banyan: I have two sources, "analog" (direct coax feed into the tuner) and "digital" (composite feed from the digital set top box). They each have their own datadirect channel feed, and each can operate independently |
| [06:27:00] | r2: | triplep: thanks |
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| [06:29:00] | triplep: | r2 : that's in myth-setup right? |
| [06:29:00] | r2: | right |
| [06:33:00] | cortezdapimp: | heya |
| [06:33:00] | cortezdapimp: | anyone usign knoppmyth? |
| [06:33:00] | cortezdapimp: | i just upgraded to r5a22 and my ati remote stopped working |
| [06:33:00] | cortezdapimp: | probably because i was blindly accepting every dialog that came up |
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| [06:34:00] | cortezdapimp: | i think it turned off the ati_remote module and turned on lirc_atiusb |
| [06:34:00] | cortezdapimp: | but lirc never works on my machine |
| [06:34:00] | cortezdapimp: | i tried rmmod'ing lirc_atiusb but it says its in use |
| [06:35:00] | r2: | cortezdapimp: sorry, no clue ... using gentoo, not knopp, and I haven't configured lirc yet |
| [06:35:00] | cortezdapimp: | do you know how i can make a module not in use so i can rmmod it |
| [06:35:00] | cortezdapimp: | ? |
| [06:36:00] | ShockValue: | unload the other modules that depend on it maybe? |
| [06:38:00] | r2: | cortezdapimp: no easy way, really ... is there a /dev/ file associated with the atiusb module that you could "fuser" against? |
| [06:38:00] | cortezdapimp: | it doesnt seem to have any dependent modules in lsmod |
| [06:39:00] | cortezdapimp: | it just says its in use when i rmmod |
| [06:39:00] | cortezdapimp: | r2: if there is i don't know it |
| [06:40:00] | cortezdapimp: | i think i'm gonna call it quits for tonight and deal with it tomorrow. Thanks for the help anyway |
| [06:40:00] | r2: | cortezdapimp: in my experience (and research), if it doesn't have a filesystem or actual /dev/ device associated with it, it's not easy to real-time determine what has it open. Have you looked through your process list to see what could be doing it? |
| [06:40:00] | triplep: | r2 :easier said than done unfortunately.... i can't run it as mythtv caus i have it setup to start the xssion in myth... and doing it as root is causing problems too |
| [06:41:00] | r2: | cortezdapimp: one thing you may want to try is to close all mythfrontends and other programs that would likely be trying to work with your ati device |
| [06:41:00] | cortezdapimp: | oh wait |
| [06:41:00] | cortezdapimp: | i guess lircd |
| [06:41:00] | r2: | cortezdapimp: try stopping lircd and seeing if the module unloads |
| [06:42:00] | Dagmar: | Yeah, if you're using the usb reciever it'll be keeping that loaded |
| [06:42:00] | cortezdapimp: | oh good point |
| [06:43:00] | cortezdapimp: | oh man i haven't done this in a while, i forget how to stop lircd |
| [06:43:00] | cortezdapimp: | i should just not upgrade once i get this stable again lol |
| [06:43:00] | r2: | banyan, triplep: any luck with my live-tv question? |
| [06:44:00] | r2: | cortezdapimp: what is the development version giving you that 0.18.1 doesn't? |
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| [06:44:00] | r2: | cortezdapimp: (I just don't know what the added features or bug fixes are in it ...) |
| [06:44:00] | cortezdapimp: | well for one thing its supposed to fix a ati remote key repeat bug |
| [06:45:00] | triplep: | r2: might... i just figured out another ubuntu 'feature' |
| [06:45:00] | cortezdapimp: | that was the main reason i was upgrading, because i was sick of it and upgrading from r5a15 to r5a16 took little to no effort |
| [06:45:00] | r2: | ahh |
| [06:45:00] | r2: | cortezdapimp: good reason ... |
| [06:46:00] | r2: | triplep: hmmm ... the word 'feature' can mean so many things to different people ... |
| [06:46:00] | triplep: | it means pain in the ass right now |
| [06:47:00] | r2: | triplep: ahhh, how is ubuntu "helping" you learn more now? |
| [06:47:00] | triplep: | where should i be digging for xvmc? |
| [06:47:00] | triplep: | it wil make me remember at least |
| [06:48:00] | cortezdapimp: | oh ya init.d |
| [06:48:00] | triplep: | execute as a different user stuff using gnome... that's what i've learned tonight |
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| [06:49:00] | r2: | triplep: running everything as a different user is a "good thing" for the most part, though admittedly it had some growing pains since I started testing things as root |
| [06:50:00] | triplep: | can make a big mess when playing with xsession stuff.... |
| [06:50:00] | triplep: | when root owns it all it can get really mesy |
| [06:51:00] | r2: | gotcha |
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| [06:51:00] | triplep: | i can't find the xvmc setting though |
| [06:53:00] | r2: | triplep: to be honest, I started by using vxmc hardware decoding but found out two things: (1) OSD stuff wasn't working, and (2) it wasn't using the built-in nVidia xvmc, which is what I was trying to do. Unfortunately, that's still on my "todo" list. |
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| [06:54:00] | triplep: | i think this is another one of my 'i'm really close to doing this right, but not exactly' moments |
| [06:59:00] | triplep: | perhaps i need to tune the cards with ivtv utils |
| [07:00:00] | r2: | triplep: what do you mean by "tune the cards"? My guess is that, since I can record (if not live) all of the channels, then there's nothing to tune. Is there more to tweak than just the freq and basic quality? |
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| [07:03:00] | triplep: | i can cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg and play it back though |
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| [07:14:00] | triplep: | r2 : so you're thinking that it's the video card framebuffer and the streams not getting along? |
| [07:16:00] | r2: | triplep: sorry, spaced out for a few (multitasking late at night tends to blur tasks ...); is this my problem or your new 'feature'? |
| [07:20:00] | triplep: | no, i don't think so |
| [07:21:00] | triplep: | i'm getting video, just not for live tv, i'm doing some test records right now to make sure |
| [07:22:00] | r2: | k |
| [07:23:00] | triplep: | ls |
| [07:23:00] | triplep: | sorry |
| [07:24:00] | r2: | gotta run ... ciao |
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| [07:34:00] | ShockValue: | hmm.. 350$ for all the supplies I need to build myself a nice home subwoofer. |
| [07:34:00] | ShockValue: | so tempting.. the speakers i have are nice but roll off WAY to high for serious movie watching :) |
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| [10:14:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | hi, im having problems with my saa7130 based tv card in linux. i haven't got it working with tvtime yet. the only thing i can see wrong in dmesg is this: |
| [10:14:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | UNKNOWN/GENERIC [card=0,autodetected] |
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| [10:15:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | i think it cant autodetect the tuner, but i cant know that, because its not anywhere in dmesg |
| [10:16:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | any idea's anybody? |
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| [11:10:00] | Ariestarious: | Which is the best? FrameBuffer, SVGAlib or X?? |
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| [11:26:00] | fryfrog: | best for what? |
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| [11:44:00] | BaZiL: | anyone here ever managed to ge winmythtv to work ? |
| [11:46:00] | Agrajag-: | hmm no i dont think anyone has ever got winmyth to work |
| [11:46:00] | Agrajag-: | :P |
| [11:46:00] | Agrajag-: | well it's always a few protocol versions behind the current myth release |
| [11:47:00] | Agrajag-: | you'll have more luck with mythstreamtv probably |
| [11:52:00] | BaZiL: | ah .. gona try to find that one then |
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| [12:08:00] | maniacxs: | GreyFoxx: are your recordings *.nuv or *.mpg? Does your nuvexport find *.mpg with the svn from 20050922? |
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| [14:14:00] | whosit: | anyone having this problem? I setup my laptop with suse 10 and got everything working good, Except when I go on battery power. No matter what the power settings are it locks up after about 5–10 mins. |
| [14:26:00] | Juski: | whosit: try #suse :) |
| [14:28:00] | whosit: | no, this is for only a problem in Myth |
| [14:29:00] | Juski: | it's an OS issue if myth works when the machine is on mains power IMHO |
| [14:36:00] | whosit: | Dont know yet, I have to do more testing and see if its a OS/Program. Guess I run some other multimedia programs and see if its what it is. Thanks for the info. |
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| [15:48:00] | jemarcks: | E: Couldn't find package nvidia-graphics7667-kmdl-2.6.13–1.1532_FC4smp |
| [15:48:00] | jemarcks: | help. yum and apt cant find the nvidia drivers |
| [15:49:00] | fryfrog: | er |
| [15:49:00] | fryfrog: | why not search for "nvidia" with yum? |
| [15:50:00] | jemarcks: | I am ..... im using jarods guide to build a new backend box. |
| [15:50:00] | jemarcks: | /var/cache/yum/freshrpms/repomd.xml:1: parser error : Document is empty |
| [15:50:00] | jemarcks: | http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/4/i386/ . . . /repomd.xml: [Errno -1] Error importing repomd.xml for freshrpms: Error: could not parse file //var/cache/yum/freshrpms/repomd.xml |
| [15:50:00] | jemarcks: | Trying other mirror. |
| [15:50:00] | jemarcks: | freshrpms is hosed |
| [15:52:00] | fryfrog: | ah |
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| [16:19:00] | dft: | oi |
| [16:20:00] | dft: | anyone else having problems playing back retail purchased dvds? |
| [16:20:00] | dft: | using xine |
| [16:20:00] | dft: | btw, I'm in Canada |
| [16:20:00] | dft: | I tried mplayer as well..and no luck |
| [16:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | Is it giving you an error that might help determine why ? :) |
| [16:21:00] | dft: | mplayer was..one sec, I'll go dig it up |
| [16:31:00] | dft: | kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown |
| [16:31:00] | dft: | Oct 21 21:46:54 couchpotato kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 1333 |
| [16:31:00] | dft: | 64 |
| [16:31:00] | dft: | Oct 21 21:46:54 couchpotato kernel: hdd: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady |
| [16:31:00] | dft: | SeekComplete Error } |
| [16:31:00] | dft: | Oct 21 21:46:54 couchpotato kernel: hdd: command error: error=0x50 { LastFailedS |
| [16:31:00] | dft: | ense=0x05 } |
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| [16:45:00] | Juski: | lol @ those suckers on ebay buying pvr150 cards for more than they go for in shops... :( too bad – I was hoping I could pick one up cheaper |
| [16:46:00] | dft: | what's the default xine string used in dvd playback settings? |
| [16:47:00] | dft: | xine -pfhq dvd:/%d ... |
| [16:48:00] | dft: | it seems not to not want to let go if the device so I can't eject the dvd from the button on the drive |
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| [16:54:00] | purplefrog: | I've gone numb from searching google. the tveeprom in ivtv appears to conflict with the tveeprom in the 2.6.12-gentoo-r10 kernel. I thought I needed kernel modules for my CX23880 chipset pchdtv card. |
| [16:54:00] | purplefrog: | Oct 23 10:25:50 alexandria kernel: cx88xx: disagrees about version of symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog |
| [16:54:00] | purplefrog: | Anyone recognize this problem? |
| [16:56:00] | fryfrog: | i removed all the kernel cards to get rid of the ivtv ones that conflict |
| [16:56:00] | fryfrog: | but i use a air2pc card (well, i don't actually USE it) |
| [16:58:00] | dft: | hmm, does xine have issues with DRM? |
| [16:58:00] | laga: | Juski: it's a small price for good feedbacks... |
| [16:58:00] | dft: | I can play back most of my son's childrens videos, but if I put something like my Matix DVD in, it won't play |
| [16:59:00] | laga: | dft: the DVDs are encrypted with CSS, probably. and we don't talk about libdecss here, it is illegal in most countries to use libdecss to decrypt DVDs. |
| [16:59:00] | fryfrog: | BLACK HELICOPTERS!!!! |
| [16:59:00] | dft: | ahh I see |
| [17:00:00] | laga: | fryfrog: hehe |
| [17:00:00] | fryfrog: | ARRUUUGA, ARUUUGA!! |
| [17:00:00] | dft: | damn,,they're watching us |
| [17:03:00] | triplep: | so, i can cat video0>test.mpg and it works, recording, live tv, and trying to open a stream with tvtime all don't work |
| [17:04:00] | laga: | tvtime probably does not support mpeg2 data. try mplayer. |
| [17:04:00] | triplep: | i can open the stream with that? |
| [17:05:00] | laga: | yep, i think so. |
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| [17:12:00] | triplep: | no dice |
| [17:13:00] | laga: | can you play test.mpg in mplayer? |
| [17:13:00] | triplep: | that isnt' the problem |
| [17:13:00] | triplep: | i can play test recording fine..... but that's about all i can do, myth isn't playing nice |
| [17:13:00] | laga: | but mplayer /dev/video0 doesn't work? |
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| [17:22:00] | purplefrog: | Well, I'm now convinced ivtv doesn't play well with my PCHDTV 3000 card. When I removed the ivtv modules from the /lib/modules, I can load the cx88xx driver. Now to see if I can actually get video. |
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| [17:30:00] | purplefrog: | Crud, I'm not even sure what tools to use to see if my antenna is pointed in the right direction. |
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| [17:52:00] | jd86: | anyone knwo how i can find what remote came with my magnavox television so i can have lirc turn on the tv when i press power on my hauppague remote? |
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| [17:54:00] | Hoxzer: | can I use some other program than mythtv-setup to do channel scan for mythtv? |
| [18:00:00] | drb: | how do I create a "new episode only" recording at high priority and a "all chan all times" recording at low priority for the same show? |
| [18:02:00] | jd86: | I have a hauppague card, with lirc setup, but it says it cant send ... can the hardware really not send? |
| [18:10:00] | triplep: | laga: sorry... had to do eat. gonna try that now |
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| [18:15:00] | triplep: | doesn't seem to work with vide0 but works with video1 |
| [18:16:00] | triplep: | video0 rather |
| [18:17:00] | purplefrog: | BOOYAH! PCHDTV 3000 got some video! |
| [18:18:00] | Hoxzer: | Yeah :E |
| [18:18:00] | triplep: | inside myth or using cat? |
| [18:18:00] | Hoxzer: | but now the prob,lem is how to get it to mythtv? |
| [18:18:00] | Hoxzer: | :E like wtf "error parsing parameteres |
| [18:19:00] | Hoxzer: | what should I doooo oh babe |
| [18:20:00] | Hoxzer: | I cannot scan my channels :D and I cannot find any conclusions to it |
| [18:21:00] | purplefrog: | hoxzer, I don't think I ever did a channel scan. I got a zap2it membership, and told mythtv how to get to it. |
| [18:22:00] | purplefrog: | for analog. |
| [18:22:00] | purplefrog: | For ATSC, I followed the instructions at http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-530806.html |
| [18:22:00] | Hoxzer: | purple: oh, but I dont live in USA :D |
| [18:23:00] | purplefrog: | doom. |
| [18:24:00] | Hoxzer: | but but hey a |
| [18:35:00] | purplefrog: | Hmm, clearly I'm going to have to tune my antenna position. Half the channels I'm supposed to be able to find are noisy as a restaurant with tile floor and wood ceiling. |
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| [18:40:00] | triplep: | i'm getting 'ivtvi invalid argument" 'Cannon open capture device /dev/video0' in tv time... and all my myth recordings are empty. dmesg shows the cards being loaded fine |
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| [19:06:00] | r2: | anyone here know enough about firewire inputs and the dct-6200 to help me out? |
| [19:08:00] | triplep: | who's running a hauppauge pvr150? |
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| [19:08:00] | FunkyELF: | hey guys, anyone here use firewire input for HDTV? |
| [19:08:00] | r2: | triplep, I"m running a PVR-500, close enough I think |
| [19:08:00] | r2: | FunkyELF, I'm trying to get it to work reliably with my DCT-6200 |
| [19:09:00] | FunkyELF: | I have a Scientific Atlanta 3250 |
| [19:09:00] | triplep: | r2 : did you set the cards up as v4l or mpeg2 cards ? |
| [19:09:00] | FunkyELF: | have you gotten it to work at all yet? |
| [19:09:00] | r2: | FunkyELF, sporadically, not consistently |
| [19:10:00] | r2: | triplep, mpeg2 |
| [19:10:00] | FunkyELF: | I also have a PVR-500...how do you set it up to show the firewire input? |
| [19:10:00] | Cardoe: | ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x44 not found for command 0x80287610! |
| [19:10:00] | Cardoe: | anyone remember what that means? |
| [19:10:00] | r2: | FunkyELF, the way I understand it, the pvr-500 has nothing to do with the firewire input |
| [19:11:00] | triplep: | k, i just reset my cards to that, i think that was part of the problem, along with some framebuffer issues |
| [19:11:00] | Hoxzer: | is somebody familiar with "error parsing parametres" problem? |
| [19:11:00] | r2: | Cardoe, when I was getting that, it was because I had a wrong firmware going to it ... upgrading to ivtv-0.4.0 and a better firmware version helped |
| [19:12:00] | r2: | Hoxzer, no, but I've gotten it every time I try to import the channel icons |
| [19:12:00] | triplep: | sweet i'm getting black screen with some color flicker, which is acta=ually a huge improvement |
| [19:12:00] | FunkyELF: | r2, yeah, i Know...I'm trying to get it to stop showing the TV and start showing the firewire input |
| [19:12:00] | FunkyELF: | but when I hit the 'y' button iw just switches from "1: tuner 0" to "2: tuner 0" |
| [19:13:00] | triplep: | r2 : did you leave inputs as video0 and video1 ? |
| [19:14:00] | Cardoe: | r2: it's not my error |
| [19:14:00] | r2: | FunkyELF, I'm still stuck on the test-mpeg2 stage |
| [19:14:00] | Cardoe: | r2: and it's from 0.4.0 using the recommended firmware |
| [19:14:00] | r2: | FunkyELF, I'm assuming you already set it up as an input connection in myth-setup? |
| [19:14:00] | r2: | Cardoe, sorry, that's what fixed it for me |
| [19:15:00] | r2: | triplep, one moment ... |
| [19:15:00] | triplep: | k, thanks dude, i appreciate all of your help |
| [19:15:00] | FunkyELF: | yeah, but I'm not sure what input / node and all of the other fields I have to fill in |
| [19:15:00] | r2: | triplep, yes, video0 and video1 are what I'm using (Tuner0 of each) |
| [19:16:00] | jemarcks: | is anybody seting up a backend box today? |
| [19:16:00] | r2: | FunkyELF, yeah, I'm still ironging out those details |
| [19:20:00] | triplep: | r2 : same here |
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| [19:21:00] | triplep: | i'm guessing that i want us-cable even though i'm in canada |
| [19:22:00] | FunkyELF: | so nobody else in here has set up a firewire input to MythTV? |
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| [19:27:00] | r2: | FunkyELF, apparently not, I asked before you got here with no answer |
| [19:27:00] | triplep: | it looks like us-bcast might be the actual setting i'm getting a feed |
| [19:27:00] | jd86: | i'm trying to use the patched lirc and patched ivtv drivers for the hauppague blaster on the pvr 150, and it says it cant find the firmware, which i placed with all of the other firmware in /lib/modules.. |
| [19:30:00] | triplep: | jd86 : i had problems with that as well |
| [19:30:00] | triplep: | dmesg shows that it isn't being loaded? |
| [19:33:00] | jd86: | lirc_pvr150: firmware haup-ir-blaster.bin not available (-2) |
| [19:33:00] | triplep: | i wish i knew more so i could help more |
| [19:34:00] | jd86: | did you get yours working? |
| [19:35:00] | triplep: | i'm still working on getting my 2 pvr150's working properly |
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| [19:36:00] | FunkyELF: | r2, where do I get test-mpeg ? |
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| [19:46:00] | r2: | FunkyELF, (sorry for the late replay) I got it in libiec61883 (in gentoo, USE="examples" gave it to me) |
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| [19:48:00] | FunkyELF: | r2 great...I am using gentoo as well |
| [19:48:00] | FunkyELF: | ehawk |
| [19:48:00] | FunkyELF: | sorry...wrong window |
| [19:51:00] | Hoxzer: | how do I import channels.conf file to the mythtv? |
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| [20:03:00] | r2: | anybody up who has experience with firewire inputs? |
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| [20:39:00] | Ribs: | Okay, got a very strange problem here... |
| [20:40:00] | Ribs: | I can run the backend fine, but nothing can connect to it |
| [20:40:00] | Ribs: | even on localhost... |
| [20:40:00] | Ribs: | I try telnetting to it, and get no response, and nothing shows on stdout, even with it logging everything |
| [20:42:00] | r2: | Ribs, stupid questions to begin with: how are you confirming that is' running? do you have a firewall? |
| [20:42:00] | r2: | s/is'/it's/ |
| [20:43:00] | Ribs: | r2: I run the backend from the command line. Like so; /usr/bin/mythbackend -v all. Every now and then it will spew output about jobs, and netstat -lp will show it 'listening'... |
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| [20:43:00] | r2: | Ribs, okay ... are you running it as root or as a user? |
| [20:43:00] | Ribs: | Everything connecting to it is connecting on 127.0.0.1, so it should work okay |
| [20:43:00] | Ribs: | backend is running as root |
| [20:44:00] | r2: | Ribs, what does mythfrontend say when you try to start it up? |
| [20:44:00] | Ribs: | things trying to connect to it are as normal user |
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| [20:44:00] | Ribs: | it starts okay, but when it tries to connect to the backend, it just freezes while it waits |
| [20:44:00] | r2: | does the normal user have access to the database? to the file store? |
| [20:45:00] | Ribs: | mythfilldatabase has the same problem, and output's this: |
| [20:45:00] | Ribs: | 2005-10–23 19:37:25.330 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5) |
| [20:45:00] | Ribs: | Connection timed out. |
| [20:45:00] | Ribs: | How do you mean 'access to the database'? |
| [20:45:00] | r2: | Ribs, confirm that mysql is running and running correctly? |
| [20:45:00] | Ribs: | Shouldn't it just connect to the backend, and get access to the mysql database that way? |
| [20:46:00] | Ribs: | mysql is running |
| [20:46:00] | r2: | no, if the user that the mythfrontend is running as does not have access to the database (directly), it won't work |
| [20:46:00] | Ribs: | 'properly', I'm not sure |
| [20:46:00] | Ribs: | maybe mysql is messing stuff up |
| [20:46:00] | r2: | frontend needs direct access to the database, it doesn't go "through" the backend |
| [20:46:00] | Ribs: | I see |
| [20:46:00] | Ribs: | how can I check it has access? |
| [20:46:00] | r2: | you need to add the normal user to the permissions of the mysql database ... hold one, I'll get the line for you |
| [20:46:00] | Ribs: | thanks |
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| [20:48:00] | r2: | Ribs, check out http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html towards the bottom of the screen |
| [20:48:00] | Ribs: | will do |
| [20:48:00] | Ribs: | cheers |
| [20:49:00] | r2: | is anybody up who has experience with firewire inputs? |
| [20:50:00] | Rince: | well – I use dvgrab for it from a Camera |
| [20:51:00] | jd86: | grr |
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| [20:54:00] | Ribs: | hrm |
| [20:54:00] | Ribs: | it appears nothing can connect to the mysql process |
| [20:56:00] | dbfoster: | Hello, Is there anyone here using Ubuntu 5.10, Breezy with mythtv? |
| [21:04:00] | jemarcks: | Is atrpms down this weekend??? |
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| [21:09:00] | Ribs: | r2: okay, I don't think it's the mysql server now |
| [21:09:00] | Ribs: | when the server isn't running, mythfrontend doesn't even start |
| [21:10:00] | Ribs: | It's must be the backend, this is the message I get when it freezes: 2005-10–23 20:09:54.163 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5) |
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| [21:17:00] | triplep: | r2 : it's working |
| [21:18:00] | triplep: | all except sound on the second card is working now |
| [21:19:00] | triplep: | dbfoster : i am |
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| [21:20:00] | r2: | Ribs, okay, let me think for a few |
| [21:20:00] | Ribs: | I'm rebooting the box, maybe that will fix things :> |
| [21:20:00] | r2: | triplep, you know, I heard people were having problems with it, but I tested simultaneous recording and it worked fine for me, so I have nothing to help with |
| [21:20:00] | ** Ribs is a windows user, really ;) ** | |
| [21:21:00] | r2: | Ribs, my sympathy ;-) |
| [21:21:00] | r2: | Ribs, did you "flush permissions" after the "grant" command? |
| [21:21:00] | Ribs: | heh heh |
| [21:21:00] | Ribs: | yes |
| [21:21:00] | Ribs: | It's strange, surely the backend would show attempted connections.. ? |
| [21:21:00] | r2: | Rince, thanks, but I'm specifically looking for firewire from the DCT box |
| [21:22:00] | dbfoster: | I'm am struggling with a sound issue with my sblive. I'm am using a bttv card with the patch cable to line in on the sblive. I can't get line in to mute completely so I always here live tv sound. |
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| [21:24:00] | Ribs: | r2: DEAR GOD |
| [21:24:00] | Ribs: | The reboot FIXED IT |
| [21:24:00] | r2: | good! |
| [21:24:00] | Ribs: | I feel violated |
| [21:24:00] | Ribs: | reboots shouldn't fix things in Linux :> |
| [21:25:00] | r2: | Ribs, I'm guessing it was a permissions-flush problem with a mythbackend restart ... or something like that |
| [21:25:00] | triplep: | dbfoster : sorry i don't have experience with any of that stuff |
| [21:25:00] | triplep: | sorry dude |
| [21:33:00] | sphing__: | xris you here? |
| [21:33:00] | dbfoster: | Well I do know reverting back to Warty will fix it, but that's allot of work :( |
| [21:35:00] | dbfoster: | I have to get going. I have a thread on Ubuntu:users mailing list. I would like to get this resolved as opposed to downgrading to Warty. |
| [21:36:00] | dbfoster: | later |
| [21:36:00] | r2: | dbfoster, good luck |
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| [21:42:00] | pookSter: | I need some advice about an error I am receiving when running mythfrontend for the first time |
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| [21:43:00] | xris: | sphing__: not really |
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| [21:44:00] | abarbaccia: | hey all – i have a cablebox uptop my TV- if i build a system with 3 tuners, only one of them can use the cable box's input correct |
| [21:44:00] | abarbaccia: | because the box can only be tuned onto a single channel at a time |
| [21:44:00] | pookSter: | The error I get is "Corrupt JPEG data: bad Huffman code |
| [21:44:00] | pookSter: | mythtv: could not connect to socket |
| [21:44:00] | pookSter: | mythtv: Connection refused" |
| [21:44:00] | pookSter: | any ideas? |
| [21:45:00] | xris: | abarbaccia: correct |
| [21:47:00] | r2: | pookSter, I get the "could not connect" but everything works just fine ... not sure what that is, but I don't think it is related to your first line of bad Huffman code |
| [21:47:00] | pookSter: | ok, thanks, I'll go down that road first then |
| [21:47:00] | r2: | abarbaccia, not necessarily ... I have a set top box that plugs in to a tuner via composite cable, but I also have the cable coax direct to the tuner card, so I have those two independently |
| [21:48:00] | r2: | (actually, the tuner card is a dual-tuner pvr-500, so I have three inputs) |
| [21:49:00] | r2: | abarbaccia, the catch is that the coax tuners can only get (for me) channels 2–78 ... the remaining are digital stations and require the set top box to decode |
| [21:49:00] | pookSter: | r2 , I see the mythfrontend screen flash, then it shuts down and I get that error, so I can't even get to the configuration screen. |
| [21:49:00] | r2: | pookSter, does /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log have anything informational? |
| [21:50:00] | pookSter: | r2, I did not think to check, thanks, I will go have a look see |
| [21:50:00] | r2: | pookSter, just to confirm, does the user that the frontend is using have (1) access to the file store (where the video files are stored), and (2) access to the mysql database? |
| [21:50:00] | pookSter: | The backend seems to run ok |
| [21:51:00] | pookSter: | but I guess it might tell me why it regected the frontend? |
| [21:51:00] | r2: | pookSter, many people work the backend as root and the frontend as a user ... the rights are easily different |
| [21:52:00] | r2: | pookSter, (database rights are completely different from any filesystem or unix rights) |
| [21:52:00] | pookSter: | is that adviseable to do ? I didn't coz I thought it may be a security issue |
| [21:52:00] | pookSter: | hmm, ok, I 'll have to read up on them |
| [21:53:00] | pookSter: | tnx |
| [21:53:00] | r2: | pookSter, I run both as a non-root user to preclude any security issues |
| [21:55:00] | r2: | pookSter, if it is in fact database rights, check out the portion of the mythtv howto that addresses and gives an example for permissions |
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| [21:56:00] | r2: | pookSter, you can also go to http://www.de.gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Setup_MythTV for help |
| [21:56:00] | pookSter: | This is quite an interesting OS. In a way I'm glad I am running into so many little issues along the way. |
| [21:56:00] | pookSter: | tnx for the link |
| [21:57:00] | pookSter: | I'm stuck here right now watching a not very interesting movie so it should make it go faster :) |
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| [21:59:00] | pookSter: | I'm doing a fedora KDE install..this Gentoo tutorial isn't going to give me any "bad habits" will it? |
| [22:01:00] | abarbaccia: | is the red/white/yellow composite or component |
| [22:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | abarbaccia: Composite |
| [22:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | and only one of those cables will have video |
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| [22:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | the others would be audio |
| [22:05:00] | r2: | pookSter, it's a good starting point, and will answer things like database permissions ... |
| [22:06:00] | r2: | abarbaccia, red/white/yellow is typically a composite video (yellow) with stereo audio (white/red) |
| [22:06:00] | pookSter: | good..thats what I need. |
| [22:09:00] | r2: | anyone using 6200ch for dct-6200 channel changing? |
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| [22:13:00] | Nothingman: | what do I do if I can't connect to my mysql database? |
| [22:14:00] | Nothingman: | I've never gotten mythtv fully operational because as soon as I do the "mysql -u root mysql" step, nothing seems to work after it |
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| [22:19:00] | Nothingman: | OK, thanks |
| [22:20:00] | r2: | Nothingman, did somebody respond to your mysql question? (I didn't see anything) |
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| [22:20:00] | Nothingman: | nope |
| [22:21:00] | r2: | Nothingman, what do you mean "nothing seems to work"? |
| [22:21:00] | Nothingman: | I always say that after five minutes or so of no response, just to be a smart-ass :-P (really) |
| [22:21:00] | Nothingman: | meaning following a tutorial, I can't get anything further working |
| [22:21:00] | Nothingman: | I get denials of permission |
| [22:21:00] | Nothingman: | it's been months since I set up that database, so now I don't remember what password I used |
| [22:22:00] | r2: | Nothingman, have you set up permissions via "mysql -u root mythconverg" (not mysql) followed by "grant ..."? |
| [22:22:00] | Nothingman: | ERROR 1044: Access denied for user: '@localhost' to database 'mythconverg' |
| [22:22:00] | Nothingman: | so I must have done the same with that |
| [22:23:00] | r2: | Nothingman, I'm not a mysql guru, but it sounds like your permissions table may be not-quite-right ... a username of '@localhost' doesn't seem right |
| [22:24:00] | purplefrog: | If you lost your mysql password a quick search of google gives this link: |
| [22:24:00] | purplefrog: | http://www.karkomaonline.com/article.php?story=20030810234911923 |
| [22:29:00] | r2: | Nothingman, the mythtv installation howto has a section (on HOWTO-6 I think) that specifically talks about granting permissions |
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| [22:29:00] | r2: | Nothingman, http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.2 |
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| [22:47:00] | r2: | Nothingman, any luck? |
| [22:47:00] | Nothingman: | still none |
| [22:47:00] | Nothingman: | trying to restart mysql atm |
| [22:47:00] | Nothingman: | not sure why the init script won't restart it |
| [22:48:00] | r2: | Nothingman, are you using fedora, gentoo, debian, ... ? |
| [22:48:00] | Nothingman: | ubuntu |
| [22:48:00] | r2: | Nothingman, okay, the one I haven't played with ... "/etc/init.d/mysql stop" doesn't do anything? |
| [22:48:00] | r2: | Nothingman, (or where-ever the script is located) |
| [22:49:00] | purplefrog: | Maybe mysql is not running. Use ps to see if it's running, and you can just "kill" it if it is. |
| [22:49:00] | Nothingman: | stopping it works |
| [22:50:00] | Nothingman: | "/usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed" |
| [22:51:00] | r2: | Nothingman, you started it back up, no errors, and "pgrep -l mysqld" shows a couple of processes? |
| [22:52:00] | Nothingman: | no |
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| [22:52:00] | r2: | okay, so it isn't starting up |
| [22:52:00] | Nothingman: | that's the error I get when I start through the script |
| [22:52:00] | Nothingman: | "error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'" |
| [22:52:00] | Nothingman: | "Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!" |
| [22:53:00] | Nothingman: | all three of those lines when I do "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start" |
| [22:53:00] | purplefrog: | wiggy. |
| [22:53:00] | purplefrog: | is there a /var/run/mysqld directory? |
| [22:54:00] | r2: | Nothingman, hmmm ... I guess I'd have to look at your /etc/init.d/mysql to know why it's complaining like that ... |
| [22:54:00] | Nothingman: | purplefrog: yes |
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| [22:55:00] | purplefrog: | At this point I suspect it's something mind-numbingly stupid that almost never happens. |
| [22:56:00] | Nothingman: | fair enough |
| [22:56:00] | purplefrog: | like "oh, my car won't start because the gas tank is empty". |
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| [23:03:00] | r2: | Nothingman, have you ever had the mysql database working in the past? |
| [23:03:00] | emes: | xris: are you planning on supporting export to an ipod-playable format in nuvexport? |
| [23:03:00] | engie: | Hi. I've (finally!) got myth controlled by lirc. How do I get the up/down buttons to scroll through the list of currently selected tracks in mythmusic? |
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| [23:03:00] | xris: | emes: why? ipods can play mpeg |
| [23:04:00] | emes: | xris: it only works with .m4v, .mp4, and .mov containers |
| [23:05:00] | xris: | emes: there was someone on here the other night who was playing files straight from his pvr-250 |
| [23:06:00] | emes: | "straight" doesn't help if it's encoded to mpeg-4 by mythtv |
| [23:07:00] | xris: | emes: but svcd, dvc, dvcd, etc should work |
| [23:07:00] | xris: | anyway, I'm happy to take submissions. As long as ffmpeg or transcode supports the output format, it should be pretty easy to modify one of the existing exporters to support it. |
| [23:08:00] | xris: | I actually don't know all that much about ffmpeg, etc. |
| [23:08:00] | emes: | xris: here is a guide on how to rip a dvd to the ipod, using handbrake, (open source ripper for os x) |
| [23:08:00] | emes: | http://diveintomark.org/howto/ipod-dvd-ripping-guide/ |
| [23:09:00] | xris: | doesn't help if the tools aren't available for linux.. osx has quicktime, linux doesn't |
| [23:09:00] | emes: | it uses ffmpeg |
| [23:10:00] | xris: | ah |
| [23:10:00] | xris: | well, shouldn't be hard to figure out how it works. I can't work on it, though (no way to test or even play back the files — not to mention that my arm starts killing me if I spend more than a few minutes on the computer) |
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| [23:11:00] | emes: | ok |
| [23:11:00] | ** xris has a repetitive stress type injury. ** | |
| [23:13:00] | purplefrog: | magnificent. ivtvdriver.org dropped offf the net while i was browsing. |
| [23:13:00] | xris: | not ivtv.tv anymore? |
| [23:13:00] | purplefrog: | nope. |
| [23:14:00] | abarbaccia: | anybody use ivtv0.4? |
| [23:14:00] | purplefrog: | yeah. It conflicts with the PCHDTV 3000 drivers, so I can't get my ATSC card working. |
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| [23:14:00] | purplefrog: | But otherwise ivtv-0.4.0 appears to work. |
| [23:15:00] | xris: | purplefrog: lame |
| [23:15:00] | purplefrog: | I'm watching TV with it right now. |
| [23:15:00] | xris: | I'm still using .3.2 something |
| [23:15:00] | xris: | it works, I don't want to touch it. heh. |
| [23:15:00] | xris: | something in svn the other day knocked out my air2pc. but seems fixed this morning. |
| [23:15:00] | purplefrog: | the annoying thing about ivtv and gentoo is that it's hard to "stay put". It changes so damn often it's maddening. |
| [23:17:00] | abarbaccia: | hurm – i think im just sticking with 0.3.2 |
| [23:17:00] | laga: | purplefrog: well, don't install any new versions then. |
| [23:17:00] | xris: | purplefrog: that's why I install it by hand |
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| [23:23:00] | jemarcks: | i wish yum worked |
| [23:23:00] | jemarcks: | heh |
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| [23:24:00] | r2: | abarbaccia, I'm using 0.4.0 on gentoo, though it's a hand-compiled 0.4 |
| [23:24:00] | r2: | )of course, I have a pvr-500, so I really needed the newer version to get it working well) |
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| [23:36:00] | Hoxzer: | how do I setup mythtv to use channels.conf file? |
| [23:37:00] | r2: | Hoxzer, what is channels.conf from? (I'm not familiar) |
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| [23:40:00] | Hoxzer: | r2: it basicly contains all the channels |
| [23:41:00] | Hoxzer: | you dont need it if mythtv will scan fine but doesn't do it for me |
| [23:43:00] | r2: | Hoxzer, I guessed that it would contain the channels, but ... on my system (and my understanding of mythtv), the channel listing is handled automatically with xmltv and zap2it |
| [23:43:00] | r2: | Hoxzer, or do you mean the list of frequencies for the channels? |
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| [23:43:00] | Hoxzer: | r2: I'm not from USA |
| [23:43:00] | Hoxzer: | zap2it doesn't work here |
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| [23:44:00] | abarbaccia: | r2, did you ever try 0.3.2 with your pvr500? did it not work well |
| [23:44:00] | r2: | Hoxzer, okay, but xmltv does basically the same thing (albeit not as nicely to the servers) |
| [23:44:00] | r2: | abarbaccia, I tried it, it did not work |
| [23:44:00] | Hoxzer: | r2: as I said not for me |
| [23:44:00] | Hoxzer: | channel scan doesn't work for me |
| [23:44:00] | Dark`-`: | any of u guys use a VGA to RCA adapter? |
| [23:44:00] | r2: | abarbaccia, I had to jump to a pre-release 0.39 to get it to do anything, and 0.4 came along while I was still testing |
| [23:45:00] | abarbaccia: | really.... |
| [23:45:00] | Hoxzer: | so I need to use other program to do it |
| [23:45:00] | abarbaccia: | i think i might make some changes then – where did you get 0.4.0? |
| [23:45:00] | Hoxzer: | then import channels.conf to mythtv now I just need to know how |
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| [23:45:00] | r2: | abarbaccia, from ivtvdriver.org, I think |
| [23:45:00] | r2: | Hoxzer, sorry, no idea |
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| [23:46:00] | abarbaccia: | connection refused???? |
| [23:46:00] | abarbaccia: | can u access it right now |
| [23:46:00] | r2: | ? |
| [23:46:00] | abarbaccia: | ? |
| [23:47:00] | r2: | abarbaccia, yuo ... perhaps going direct will help you: http://dl.ivtvdriver.org/ivtv/stable/ivtv-0.4.0.tar.gz |
| [23:47:00] | r2: | s/yuo/syup/ |
| [23:47:00] | r2: | s/yuo/yup/ ... typing malfunctions these days ... |
| [23:48:00] | BigBub: | hi all. I am attempting to softmod an XB0X for use as a mythtv front end. I currently have two, one with K4034/D5960 and another with K5713/D5960. Anyone have any tips on rolling my kernel back to pre-K4020? |
| [23:48:00] | r2: | abarbaccia, any luck? |
| [23:48:00] | abarbaccia: | r2, again, its telling me connection refused... – i'm gonna try wget |
| [23:48:00] | r2: | abarbaccia, good idea |
| [23:49:00] | abarbaccia: | and now it works |
| [23:49:00] | abarbaccia: | very very odd |
| [23:49:00] | r2: | hmmm ... |
| [23:49:00] | ** r2 shrugs ** | |
| [23:50:00] | r2: | anyone here have much experience with firewire inputs and aspect ratios? |
| [23:50:00] | Hoxzer: | r2: what we need is sex |
| [23:50:00] | Hoxzer: | we need to have womens |
| [23:50:00] | r2: | huh? |
| [23:50:00] | Hoxzer: | and then be able to use them |
| [23:51:00] | Hoxzer: | you know that is the problem mutual with nerds |
| [23:51:00] | Hoxzer: | girls just wont be with us |
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| [23:51:00] | Hoxzer: | they dont see that remebering linux source code is sexy |
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| [23:51:00] | laga: | mine does. |
| [23:52:00] | abarbaccia: | r2, with that new version, you still need to get the firmware + audio correct? |
| [23:52:00] | Hoxzer: | laga: yes maybe ;/ but I don't think you have a girl friend |
| [23:52:00] | r2: | abarbaccia, yup ... let me take a look where I found the right firmware |
| [23:52:00] | Hoxzer: | you are just married |
| [23:52:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: no marriage. GF. ;) |
| [23:52:00] | xris: | Hoxzer: laga is only 18 or so |
| [23:52:00] | laga: | right ;) |
| [23:53:00] | Hoxzer: | ;( liar |
| [23:53:00] | xris: | laga: did you say you were 18? |
| [23:53:00] | abarbaccia: | r2 i got that part |
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| [23:53:00] | abarbaccia: | r2 just making sure that you still had to do all that |
| [23:54:00] | xris: | thought you were just starting at uni. |
| [23:54:00] | Hoxzer: | laga: are you 18 year old? |
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| [23:55:00] | r2: | abarbaccia, yeah ... I had a prerelease of the pvr_2.0.35 file ... forget where I got it (ivtvdriver.org is now refusing my connection ... *shrug*), but that's what did it for me |
| [23:55:00] | xris: | Hoxzer: not that we can tell anything on irc. heh. |
| [23:56:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: yep. |
| [23:56:00] | Hoxzer: | LOL |
| [23:56:00] | laga: | xris: i did ;) |
| [23:56:00] | Hoxzer: | too leet for that age |
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| [23:56:00] | ** xris pretends to be a just-turned-18 busty blond coed with nothing on but a silk nightie. ** | |
| [23:56:00] | laga: | xris: http://www.karly-abroad.de/view_photo.php?set . . . ;id=dscn0697 <- how old do i look? ;) |
| [23:56:00] | Hoxzer: | Laga: now you can proof you being as leet as I think and tell me how to import channels.conf to mythtv |
| [23:57:00] | r2: | hmmm ... this topic is starting to slip a little ... |
| [23:57:00] | laga: | xris: and when you don't wear make-up? shorts and a t-shirt? ;) |
| [23:57:00] | xris: | laga: on the left? |
| [23:57:00] | laga: | r2: right. |
| [23:57:00] | laga: | xris: on the right, sorry. |
| [23:57:00] | r2: | gotta go, be back later |
| [23:57:00] | xris: | laga: but no panties. ever. ;) |
| [23:57:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: well, did you search www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ yet? |
| [23:57:00] | xris: | ok, let me put an official stop to that conversation. heh. |
| [23:57:00] | Hoxzer: | damn TELL MRE |
| [23:57:00] | laga: | right |
| [23:58:00] | Hoxzer: | I consider you as noob if you dont tell me :(( |
| [23:58:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: well, give me an dvb-card and a satellite dish and i'll be glad to figure it out for you. |
| [23:58:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: i could care less. |
| [23:58:00] | Hoxzer: | ;( |
| [23:59:00] | ** xris heads out to costco.... ** | |
| [23:59:00] | Hoxzer: | would you like to be pornstar? |
| [23:59:00] | laga: | bye xris |
| [23:59:00] | xris: | stupid vacuum broke. need a new one. |
| [23:59:00] | mchou: | ouch |
| [23:59:00] | xris: | Hoxzer: me or him? |
| [23:59:00] | Dark`-`: | i have one from like 1971 |
| [23:59:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: i'd prefer the dvb-s card. |
| [23:59:00] | Dark`-`: | its awesome |
| [23:59:00] | purplefrog: | vacuuming is for people who want clean houses. |
| [23:59:00] | Dark`-`: | so retro style |
| [23:59:00] | mchou: | xris: wouldnt get one from costco |
| [23:59:00] | Hoxzer: | to laga |
| [23:59:00] | xris: | purplefrog: yes, yes it is... or for married guys. |
| [23:59:00] | Dark`-`: | get one from a pawn shop, thats the best place |
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