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| [00:26:00] | angryelf: | I upgraded FC4 and it broke myth, could somebody help me delete my database so I can recreate it? I deleted the file but when i goto recreat it it says access denied |
| [00:27:00] | ShockValue: | theres a section in the documentation about backup and restore etc of your myth database. one of the options in there is to "drop" the database so you can start over |
| [00:28:00] | angryelf: | ty |
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| [00:35:00] | angryelf: | I love how upgrading linux makes it stop working |
| [00:38:00] | MohShami: | value should I use for starting channel, I've been searching for hours, any help is greatly appreciated |
| [00:39:00] | kormoc: | MohShami, anything you want? it's purely for your convience |
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| [00:39:00] | kormoc: | angryelf, FC != linux |
| [00:40:00] | MohShami: | I keep getting this error, and myth won't display anything " Failed to get channel options for channel 11786" |
| [00:40:00] | MohShami: | kormoc: ^^ thanx in advance |
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| [00:41:00] | kormoc: | I have mine set to start up on the tvguide channel myself |
| [00:41:00] | MohShami: | kormoc: where did you get the value from? |
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| [00:41:00] | kormoc: | MohShami, it's the channel number, in my case 74 |
| [00:42:00] | MohShami: | kormoc: excuse me for being annoying, where can I find that value? |
| [00:42:00] | kormoc: | MohShami, look at your tvguide? |
| [00:42:00] | MohShami: | I don't have one, is the value stored in the database somewhere? |
| [00:43:00] | ** mishehu sighs. ** | |
| [00:43:00] | kormoc: | mishehu, just set it to 3 or something, find the station you want and set it later |
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| [00:44:00] | MohShami: | kormoc: the problem is that I get a blank screen when I try to watch live tv |
| [00:44:00] | MohShami: | the ringbuf1.nuv file is not being created |
| [00:45:00] | kormoc: | MohShami, yeah, cause it's tring to tune to channel #11786 |
| [00:45:00] | kormoc: | which isn't a valid station I'd beleive |
| [00:45:00] | MohShami: | I tried 1,2,3 and 15, still no luck |
| [00:45:00] | kormoc: | well in that case something else is up then |
| [00:45:00] | MohShami: | what should I do, I've been searching with no luck |
| [00:46:00] | mishehu: | today's not my day. |
| [00:46:00] | kormoc: | what's your card? |
| [00:46:00] | MohShami: | skystar2, it is working with xine without a problem |
| [00:48:00] | kormoc: | http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t= . . . 90be50f185ff |
| [00:48:00] | kormoc: | that might help you |
| [00:48:00] | MohShami: | I'm checking it now, thanx |
| [00:52:00] | MohShami: | kormoc: can you show me a row from your channel table?? |
| [00:53:00] | kormoc: | MohShami, that won't help, I don't have a card like yours, so mine will be totally different |
| [00:54:00] | MohShami: | mine is a dvb-s card, the link you gave me didn't help much, I just wanted to see the values to compare |
| [00:56:00] | kormoc: | http://pastebin.ca/26220 |
| [00:56:00] | kormoc: | there you go |
| [00:56:00] | MohShami: | thanx |
| [00:56:00] | mishehu: | woot |
| [00:57:00] | mishehu: | I got one device using lirc to work |
| [00:57:00] | mishehu: | my sblive audigy 2zs platinum remote |
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| [00:59:00] | FunkyELF: | hey guys. I live in Florida and recently have experienced two short power glitches and have come to realize that MythTV or linux in general is not very reboot friendly |
| [00:59:00] | kormoc: | why's that? |
| [00:59:00] | FunkyELF: | both times I had to run fsck.jfs /dev/vg/store just to be able to mount the thing |
| [00:59:00] | mishehu: | FunkyELF: sounds like a configuration problem on your behalf. |
| [00:59:00] | mishehu: | that's a filesystem issue |
| [00:59:00] | kormoc: | FunkyELF, yeah. |
| [00:59:00] | mishehu: | that's not linux or mythtv |
| [00:59:00] | kormoc: | FunkyELF, EXT3 is more robust then JFS. |
| [01:00:00] | MohShami: | kormoc: my freqid is NULL in all values, does that have anything to do with it? |
| [01:00:00] | mishehu: | I'd use reiser or xfs |
| [01:00:00] | kormoc: | MohShami, I'd say so, but I'm not a expert |
| [01:00:00] | kormoc: | mishehu, ext3 with index_dirs is quite the speed demon. |
| [01:00:00] | FunkyELF: | okay...well heres another thing. When the system rebooted on me and didn't mount the filesystem it wound up starting mythbackend which started recording things onto /mnt/store...the problem is that this wasn't mounted so it was actually putting things on my / partition. |
| [01:00:00] | mishehu: | I'm actually using reiser4 on my myth box, nice atomic writes |
| [01:01:00] | mishehu: | kormoc: well, though I personally don't like ext3 much, I'd use it over jfs |
| [01:01:00] | FunkyELF: | by the time I stopped mythbackend fixed the filesystem and remounted it I went back into Myth and saw that there were entries from when it tried to resume the recording but when I went to delete them, they didn't disappear probably becasue it did not find them on the filesystem so they remained in the list |
| [01:02:00] | mishehu: | FunkyELF: that's typical mount behavior |
| [01:02:00] | kormoc: | FunkyELF, that's something that just can't really be delt with. The os doesn't realize that your /mnt is 'system critical' and thus it just does what it can. If you can come up with a better way to figure that stuff out, I'm sure a lot of people would love to know |
| [01:02:00] | mishehu: | there is a mount option somewhere that will allow "transparency" |
| [01:02:00] | kormoc: | mishehu, any preticular reasons? |
| [01:02:00] | FunkyELF: | I had to stop thebackend, unmount /mnt/store (mounted from /dev/vg/store) then copy the files from /mnt/store (from / ) somewhere, remount /dev/vg/store and then copy those files there so that when I went to delete them it'd be happy |
| [01:02:00] | mishehu: | kormoc: I know a lot more people who use xfs, ext3, reiser, and reiser4 than I know who use jfs. I have most of my experieince with reiser, though before reiser I did use some ext3. |
| [01:03:00] | mishehu: | and of course, before that ext2 |
| [01:03:00] | mishehu: | FunkyELF: welcome to the wonderful world of computers. |
| [01:03:00] | kormoc: | mishehu, yeah, I ment why arecha a fan of ext3. I'm just wondering |
| [01:03:00] | FunkyELF: | yeah...there is no way Myth is for beginers...I'm suprised I was able to fix it |
| [01:04:00] | mishehu: | kormoc: I find it to be a bit on the slow side, especially if you are doing multiple writes. |
| [01:04:00] | FunkyELF: | I do think that Myth should have removed it from the database of "recorded programs" even tho it wasn't able to delete it from the filesystem. |
| [01:04:00] | Juski: | I thought that mythtv isn't for beginners is a kind of 'given' |
| [01:04:00] | mishehu: | it's fine for 90% read only situations |
| [01:04:00] | kormoc: | mishehu, fair nuff. |
| [01:04:00] | kormoc: | mishehu, it seems to benchmark right bout adverage in all cases, not preticuallry fast on anything |
| [01:04:00] | FunkyELF: | Juski, I figured the setup for it was not for beginers but once it was up and running it was pretty user friendly |
| [01:04:00] | mishehu: | kormoc: not to mention, I do run a number of mail servers that use maildirs on them, and ext3 would bomb on them. reiser and reiser4 pack them in quite nicely. |
| [01:05:00] | kormoc: | mishehu, but with index_dir on, it tends to speed up to near riser4 speeds |
| [01:05:00] | mishehu: | kormoc: what is the cost of using index_dir? |
| [01:05:00] | FunkyELF: | well...here is another problem I have been having....tell me if there is a solution |
| [01:05:00] | kormoc: | mishehu, not much. slightly larger inodes. |
| [01:06:00] | mishehu: | kormoc: I'd imagine still best for mostly read-only environments though... probably doesn't affect write speed correct? |
| [01:06:00] | FunkyELF: | When the power goes out momentarily, about half of the computers in my house come back on, but the other half doesn't. Is there a way without a UPS to make sure that the compuer is running as soon as the power comes back on? |
| [01:06:00] | Juski: | heck, anything with a TV card in it can be a fscking headache. you just have to look at tvcards.com/messageboard to see that for yourself |
| [01:06:00] | kormoc: | mishehu, right, write speeds stay the same. it's only a b-tree has of the dirs |
| [01:06:00] | Juski: | FunkyELF: usually a BIOS setting |
| [01:07:00] | FunkyELF: | Juski, really?...what is it typically called? |
| [01:07:00] | mishehu: | kormoc: well, you know, to be fair to jfs, I'd choose jfs over ntfs any time of day |
| [01:07:00] | mishehu: | heh |
| [01:07:00] | kormoc: | FunkyELF, something like powerstate after loss |
| [01:07:00] | Juski: | erm... it's under power management options on my BIOSes |
| [01:07:00] | kormoc: | mishehu, hehe, fair nuff :) |
| [01:07:00] | mishehu: | kormoc: if you don't know how ugly ntfs is, just read the brief commentary on it on partition image's website. |
| [01:08:00] | Juski: | normally 3 options for restoring on powerup of the PSU: 1. power on 2. enter standby 3. stay off |
| [01:08:00] | FunkyELF: | I'm wondering if I should start using a different file system. I chose JFS because I read somewhere that it can delete files faster than any other filesysem and that is really important in Myth |
| [01:08:00] | Juski: | I can delete a 5GB file in seconds with ext3.. I dunno what all the fuss is about |
| [01:08:00] | kormoc: | mishehu, yeah, I've taken a gander before and I try not to venture back there again |
| [01:08:00] | mishehu: | "gee, let's put our cluster bitmap as a file that it inofitself can get fragmented to shit..." |
| [01:08:00] | FunkyELF: | Both times my system powered down I had to run fsck.jfs....does anyone here think that if I was a different FS this wouldn't have happened? |
| [01:08:00] | kormoc: | Juski, yeah, that's the thing, a few sec is to slow |
| [01:09:00] | kormoc: | FunkyELF, it's partly your distro as well |
| [01:09:00] | mishehu: | FunkyELF: more likely than not going to happen on reiser4. reiser4 is an atomic filesystem. |
| [01:09:00] | FunkyELF: | Gentoo |
| [01:09:00] | Juski: | I've never found that to be the case, even with 150GB of recordings |
| [01:09:00] | kormoc: | FunkyELF, gentoo should have automatically fscked on bootup |
| [01:09:00] | mishehu: | err |
| [01:09:00] | mishehu: | that's confusing what I typed |
| [01:09:00] | mishehu: | more likely NOT going to happen on reiser4 |
| [01:09:00] | mishehu: | since it is an atomic filesystem. |
| [01:09:00] | FunkyELF: | kormoc, I don't think it knew what kind of filesystem it was....it is an LVM2 logical volume |
| [01:10:00] | kormoc: | FunkyELF, that doesn't really matter. |
| [01:10:00] | mishehu: | however, requires patching of the kernel, but for a gentoo user it's probably already patched |
| [01:10:00] | mishehu: | heh |
| [01:10:00] | Juski: | well – looks like that problem emerging mythmusic last night hasn't gone away with a -lcd USE flag.. hmmpph |
| [01:10:00] | kormoc: | FunkyELF, it setups the LVM before it attempts to mount the vg |
| [01:10:00] | kormoc: | FunkyELF, it then should go, ooh, it needs to be fscked. and fsck it and then mount it |
| [01:10:00] | kormoc: | FunkyELF, it might be that jfs doesn't support the 'needs to be fscked |
| [01:10:00] | kormoc: | ' tag? |
| [01:11:00] | Juski: | I'm getting "error: `outputText' undeclared (first use this function)" at line 1521 of playbackbox.cpp |
| [01:11:00] | Juski: | does the same if I try to compile the source myself |
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| [01:12:00] | luxcious: | i have a question if anyone's around |
| [01:13:00] | mishehu: | nobody's around. |
| [01:13:00] | luxcious: | oh well |
| [01:13:00] | luxcious: | at least i tried |
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| [01:14:00] | MohShami: | kormoc: I did another scan and now it is working properly, thanx a lot man |
| [01:14:00] | luxcious: | my mythtv main menu seems rather long, and doesn't like some screenshots i've seen of the main menu |
| [01:14:00] | FunkyELF: | does Myth support multiple ring-buffers for channel surfing during commercials? Like if you were watching 2 shows that were on at the same time? |
| [01:14:00] | luxcious: | Instead of a Watch TV and Watch Recordings menu items, i just have TV, Music, Videos, etc |
| [01:15:00] | fman: | guys, I'm going to powerup a motherboard on my desk with a powersupply hanging off it |
| [01:15:00] | fman: | any sugesstions what to mount this on |
| [01:15:00] | FunkyELF: | fman, not an anti-static bag |
| [01:16:00] | fman: | yep |
| [01:16:00] | FunkyELF: | fman, because static will actually build up on it. Anything non-conductive. Plastic would be bad also |
| [01:16:00] | fman: | wood |
| [01:16:00] | FunkyELF: | wood is good |
| [01:16:00] | ** FunkyELF is a poet and didn't know it ** | |
| [01:16:00] | fman: | no probs |
| [01:16:00] | Juski: | if the PSU is grounded properly and the connections are sound there shouldn't be much to worry about |
| [01:16:00] | fman: | just go find me a piece of timber |
| [01:17:00] | fman: | ok |
| [01:17:00] | fman: | problem is the only case I have is m-atx |
| [01:17:00] | fman: | and this motherboard is atx |
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| [01:17:00] | Chutt: | just keep it on the desk |
| [01:17:00] | Chutt: | won't hurt anything |
| [01:18:00] | fman: | cool |
| [01:18:00] | Chutt: | well, unless you have a metal desk |
| [01:18:00] | fman: | I have a wooden desk anyhow |
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| [01:18:00] | fman: | the only bitch is having to run on/off switches etc |
| [01:18:00] | Chutt: | only reason you'd have to raise it up off the desk is if you had any cards that had connector shields that go down too far |
| [01:18:00] | FunkyELF: | I ran a game server off of a computer without a case for over a month. It didn't have a hard drive either. I booted knoppix, mounted a samba share on my windows machine, installed the BF1942 server there and ran it. Just a mobo, power supply, and cdrom |
| [01:19:00] | Chutt: | i have a naked computer on my desk all the time |
| [01:19:00] | Chutt: | need to for work |
| [01:19:00] | FunkyELF: | fman, paper clips work nice for the on off switches ;-) plus it feels cool, like you're hotwireing a computer |
| [01:19:00] | Chutt: | has a pci card with a 2" lcd display on it, can't see it if it's in the case |
| [01:20:00] | guitar256: | mythtv-setup results in: "Unknown database 'mythconverg'" — dropping the database via the docs didn't delete it well enough --- how do i delete everything and start over? |
| [01:20:00] | FunkyELF: | Chutt, was is the point of the 2" lcd display on a PCI card? |
| [01:20:00] | Chutt: | dev kit for one of our chips |
| [01:21:00] | FunkyELF: | Chutt, what kind of chip? |
| [01:21:00] | Chutt: | cell phone processor, mostly |
| [01:21:00] | fman: | FunkyElf – paper clips? how |
| [01:21:00] | Chutt: | fman, if you have an extra case, just stick it next to the motherboard |
| [01:21:00] | kormoc: | guitar256, it says it's a unknown database, it's gone. |
| [01:21:00] | Chutt: | easy to run the power cable that way |
| [01:21:00] | fman: | Chutt – thats my plan |
| [01:21:00] | kormoc: | guitar256, you need to recreate it new, as the docs say and then myth will run |
| [01:21:00] | Chutt: | and you can even mount the power supply + harddrives |
| [01:22:00] | Chutt: | to keep them out of the way |
| [01:22:00] | FunkyELF: | fman, use anything conductive where the case's little wires would normall go from the power button to the mobo |
| [01:22:00] | guitar256: | kormac, i've been doing that, i get access denied errors |
| [01:23:00] | FunkyELF: | just put it between the two pins for the power switch to get it going, then move the paper clip away |
| [01:23:00] | kormoc: | guitar256, then your mysql isn't setup right |
| [01:23:00] | guitar256: | it was setup just fine before i yum upgraded |
| [01:24:00] | guitar256: | this is why linux = FC4 is a pile |
| [01:24:00] | FunkyELF: | can you run mysql -u root -pnew-password mythconverge |
| [01:24:00] | Chutt: | so why'd you upgrade? |
| [01:24:00] | kormoc: | guitar256, FC != Linux. FC sucks imho |
| [01:25:00] | Chutt: | fedora's meant to be unstable :p |
| [01:25:00] | guitar256: | if there were a well-written how-to for other distro's i'd more than welcome it |
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| [01:25:00] | guitar256: | FunkyELF, unknown database 'mythconverg' |
| [01:26:00] | FunkyELF: | hrm, I'm not good at databases, look for a command to list the databases |
| [01:26:00] | kormoc: | SHOW DATABASES; |
| [01:26:00] | FunkyELF: | maybe run that same command with out 'mythconverg' at the end. Then try "show databases;" |
| [01:26:00] | FunkyELF: | ha |
| [01:27:00] | FunkyELF: | I should try reading while I type |
| [01:27:00] | kormoc: | FunkyELF, he droped mythconverg, and he wants to recreate it and the docs command line gives him an error |
| [01:27:00] | guitar256: | it's not there, but i can't recreat it either |
| [01:28:00] | ShockValue: | anyone know how to add new videos to mythvideo listings from a remote machine? I dont want to hook up a keyboard to my television box so I can do this - |
| [01:28:00] | FunkyELF: | i don't know about your particular install but I had something that I had to pipe into the database.... |
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| [01:29:00] | guitar256: | shockvalue, everytime you go into manage videos menu it checks the directory for new files |
| [01:29:00] | FunkyELF: | guitar256, I will /msg you the script |
| [01:29:00] | guitar256: | so drop the files in your video folder |
| [01:29:00] | guitar256: | FunkyELF, k |
| [01:30:00] | Chutt: | every install has something they need to pipe into to 'mysql' to create the db |
| [01:30:00] | Chutt: | well, most everyone |
| [01:30:00] | FunkyELF: | CREATE DATABASE mythconverg; |
| [01:30:00] | FunkyELF: | GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@localhost IDENTIFIED BY "mythtv"; |
| [01:30:00] | FunkyELF: | FLUSH PRIVILEGES; |
| [01:30:00] | FunkyELF: | GRANT CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@localhost IDENTIFIED BY "mythtv"; |
| [01:30:00] | FunkyELF: | FLUSH PRIVILEGES; |
| [01:30:00] | Chutt: | good job on that message |
| [01:30:00] | FunkyELF: | alright...i'm out...sorry if that is considered a flood |
| [01:30:00] | Chutt: | and it's wrong, too :p |
| [01:30:00] | FunkyELF: | Chutt, I couldn't figure out how to get a new tab to middle-click into on xchat |
| [01:30:00] | FunkyELF: | Chutt, well...it worked for me |
| [01:31:00] | Chutt: | extra flush in there |
| [01:31:00] | FunkyELF: | i'm out....BIKETOBERFEST ! ! ! |
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| [01:31:00] | guitar256: | "blahblah" <-- at the end of GRANT ALL line.......inside the quotes is the user name, right? |
| [01:32:00] | Chutt: | is the password. |
| [01:32:00] | guitar256: | so....should be ....... <username>@<ip_range> IDENTIFIED BY "<username_password>" |
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| [01:33:00] | Chutt: | no |
| [01:33:00] | Chutt: | you should use what he pasted |
| [01:33:00] | Chutt: | of even, the mc.sql that came with your rpms |
| [01:33:00] | Chutt: | 'or even', rather |
| [01:33:00] | Chutt: | ya know, follow the docs? |
| [01:33:00] | guitar256: | no i shouldn't cause i always ended up redoing that part when i added a remote frontend |
| [01:34:00] | ** kormoc chuckles. ** | |
| [01:34:00] | Chutt: | so, uh |
| [01:34:00] | Chutt: | if you've done this before, multiple times |
| [01:34:00] | kormoc: | well, sense you know better then the guy who wrote the software... |
| [01:34:00] | Chutt: | how come you've been asking about it in here? |
| [01:35:00] | guitar256: | cause everytime i did it i put in about 5 different liens and hoped one of them worked.......seeing if i can do it right this time |
| [01:35:00] | Juski: | if you throw enough mud.. (etc) |
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| [01:35:00] | guitar256: | more or less |
| [01:35:00] | guitar256: | but it's ok, i'll keep doing it that way, dont want to bother you |
| [01:36:00] | Chutt: | right, but you've been acting like you didn't even know how to set up the database. |
| [01:36:00] | ShockValue: | guitar256: how do I do things like add posters, and IMDB#'s and such? |
| [01:36:00] | guitar256: | i can set up the database when i cut and paste commands, it's real simple that way |
| [01:37:00] | guitar256: | but when i get access denied's that aren't suppose to be there, things get iffy |
| [01:37:00] | Chutt: | errr, that 'access denied' was supposed to be there |
| [01:37:00] | Chutt: | since you dropped the database and didn't recreate it. |
| [01:38:00] | guitar256: | k, forget it, i'm gonna go fix it now |
| [01:38:00] | Juski: | when someone has a sec can they please take a look at this? http://pastebin.ca/26225 |
| [01:39:00] | guitar256: | ShockValue, no idea, sounds superfluous |
| [01:40:00] | kormoc: | ShockValue, it's in the mythvideo browser, one of the options is to search imdb for a movie |
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| [01:49:00] | guitar256: | oh i like this.....watching tv kills mythbackend |
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| [01:55:00] | ShockValue: | kormoc, right, but how do i do that without having a keyboard hooked up to my mythbox. Im trying to figure out how to do it remotely |
| [01:55:00] | kormoc: | ooh |
| [01:55:00] | kormoc: | donno |
| [01:56:00] | ShockValue: | im trying to add videos to myth with all the nifty imdb info etc without hookin up a keyboard |
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| [01:58:00] | kersing: | hi ppl, when I try to watch life tv all I get is a blank screen, however recording works ok. life tv used to work fine but it seems I changed something I should not have changed. Any hints? |
| [01:59:00] | kersing: | BTW. have to kill frontend to leave life tv, won't respond to any key presses |
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| [02:00:00] | Jazbo: | Hey folks, so my disk keeps filling up even though I put shows on "auto-expire". Now even after a deleted a bunch of stuff I still can't log into my window manager becuase I get some message about the disk being full. Anyone have suggestions for what to do??? |
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| [02:00:00] | CanadaBoy: | fred-ezone |
| [02:02:00] | fman: | which switches have to be connected on an atx motherboard to get it to startup |
| [02:02:00] | fman: | just power sw or others? |
| [02:02:00] | Jazbo: | I'm stuck to command line only now so it's a bit difficult to find a solution |
| [02:02:00] | kormoc: | fman, just power switch |
| [02:03:00] | kersing: | power sw should work (don't forget to connect power supply as well :-) |
| [02:03:00] | kormoc: | Jazbo, df -h and see how much is free on / |
| [02:04:00] | Jazbo: | k one sec |
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| [02:05:00] | fman: | hmm |
| [02:05:00] | fman: | this aint working |
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| [02:06:00] | guitar256: | Why would opening up the Video menu on a frontend box freeze myth, but it works fine on the backend? |
| [02:07:00] | fman: | got it |
| [02:07:00] | fman: | manual is a bit weird |
| [02:08:00] | kersing: | guitar256: because it wants preview 'icon'/stream and can't get it? |
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| [02:09:00] | guitar256: | i dont know what that means and/or how to find out if that's what it's doing |
| [02:09:00] | kersing: | guitar256: try with preview options off to see if that helps... |
| [02:09:00] | guitar256: | that option under video settings? |
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| [02:11:00] | kersing: | under setup->tv->play (screen 3 i think, preview options) |
| [02:11:00] | hari_seldon99: | Hi |
| [02:11:00] | Juski: | one last paste of the pastebin.. if you have any idea what's up ..feel free.. use insults if you like ;) http://pastebin.ca/26225 |
| [02:11:00] | hari_seldon99: | My mythtv box is an old compaq deskpro 800 Mhz with Hauppauge PVR 350 |
| [02:12:00] | hari_seldon99: | I wanted to install another tuner so I can watch tv & record simultaneously |
| [02:12:00] | hari_seldon99: | So I bought a low end Hauppauge wintv go for the second tuner, but the performance is horrible when mythtv uses it (picture is skippy) |
| [02:13:00] | kormoc: | hari_seldon99, that is because you bought a software encoder. it uses the cpu to do all the display work, and your box is a bit too slow for that |
| [02:13:00] | hari_seldon99: | Can I use Video motion compensation to enhance this, or must I get another pvr series card? |
| [02:13:00] | Juski: | another pvr card |
| [02:13:00] | hari_seldon99: | kormoc: Yeah, I guessed that that was it, but this is REALLY bad. I did not expect it to perform THIS poorly |
| [02:13:00] | guitar256: | kersing, the video menu doesn't play preview streams |
| [02:14:00] | kormoc: | hari_seldon99, yeah, they can be aweful at times. |
| [02:14:00] | hari_seldon99: | oh, pity :( |
| [02:14:00] | hari_seldon99: | can I use video motion compensation or something? |
| [02:15:00] | kormoc: | that's only for playback. your recording is jumpy so working on the playback won't really help |
| [02:15:00] | hari_seldon99: | oh |
| [02:15:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok |
| [02:16:00] | hari_seldon99: | well when I watch live tv on the crap tuner, even then it's bad |
| [02:16:00] | hari_seldon99: | Is that "playback", or does that count as recording? |
| [02:16:00] | Juski: | hari_seldon99: even then it's depending on the CPU to encode it |
| [02:17:00] | hari_seldon99: | right,right |
| [02:17:00] | hari_seldon99: | I get it |
| [02:17:00] | kormoc: | live tv is still recorded and then played back, hence why you can pause it |
| [02:17:00] | hari_seldon99: | right |
| [02:17:00] | Juski: | ding! |
| [02:17:00] | hari_seldon99: | jst checking |
| [02:17:00] | hari_seldon99: | pity |
| [02:18:00] | hari_seldon99: | so I guess I'll need another hardware mpeg decoding capable card if I wanna watch & record simultaneously |
| [02:18:00] | hari_seldon99: | boohoo |
| [02:18:00] | hari_seldon99: | know any cheap ones? |
| [02:18:00] | kormoc: | pvr 150's are the cheapest |
| [02:18:00] | Juski: | pvr150 |
| [02:18:00] | hari_seldon99: | will the pvr150MCE edition work? |
| [02:19:00] | hari_seldon99: | or is that only in MCE? |
| [02:19:00] | Juski: | it'll work in linux |
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| [02:19:00] | hari_seldon99: | with the ivtv driver? |
| [02:19:00] | Juski: | so if you already have a remote you're in |
| [02:19:00] | Juski: | yes.. with the ivtv driver |
| [02:20:00] | hari_seldon99: | yeah, I have the hauppauge grey remote (tho I still have to get it to work with lirc, that's another problem I'm tearing my hair over) |
| [02:20:00] | hari_seldon99: | I compiled the ivtv driver and set XFree86Config for tv-out thru it |
| [02:20:00] | Juski: | well I'm gonna have to live without mythmusic for a while til I can figure out what's gone wrong in this compile |
| [02:21:00] | hari_seldon99: | is there anything I have to do after I plug in the pvr150 (other than setting input connections and capture devices in mythtv-setuo)? |
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| [02:22:00] | hari_seldon99: | teh ivtv driver gets loaded up okay |
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| [02:27:00] | hari_seldon99: | anywho thanks for clearing things up |
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| [02:29:00] | simon_c: | Hi all. I'm trying to get the TV out to work on a Rage Mobility card (dell CPx laptop) Using the old atitvout utility, I've got the console working, but I can't get X to sync right. Where do I go next ? |
| [02:30:00] | simon_c: | this is with suse9.3 (xorg) |
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| [02:37:00] | Juski: | simon_c.. does X work on a monitor? |
| [02:37:00] | Juski: | oops I mean on the main display? |
| [02:37:00] | simon_c: | Juski: Yes. Fine. |
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| [02:37:00] | simon_c: | I've tried dropping the res to 640x480, but I still get a scrambled screen on the TV. |
| [02:38:00] | simon_c: | (plain old 22" tv. no HD, no wide screen) |
| [02:38:00] | djperegrine: | simon_c,, are you trying to get the ati tv out working? |
| [02:38:00] | djperegrine: | it doesn't work |
| [02:39:00] | djperegrine: | I have a readon 7000 and the TV doesn't work |
| [02:39:00] | simon_c: | djperegrine: Yes. |
| [02:39:00] | djperegrine: | yea I tried for 3 weeks striaght |
| [02:39:00] | djperegrine: | it justs doesn't work I gave up |
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| [02:39:00] | simon_c: | djperegrine: This is on a rage mobility (laptop) |
| [02:39:00] | djperegrine: | yea |
| [02:39:00] | Juski: | radeon 7000 is a lot newer than simon_c's vid though |
| [02:39:00] | simon_c: | djperegrine: I got the console text mode console working |
| [02:39:00] | djperegrine: | the best thing to do is get a LCDTV |
| [02:40:00] | djperegrine: | simon_c , that is the VESA driver |
| [02:40:00] | djperegrine: | that works |
| [02:40:00] | djperegrine: | but you can't use xv |
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| [02:40:00] | djperegrine: | which you need for myth to resize the TV image |
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| [02:40:00] | djperegrine: | otherwise it just lags |
| [02:40:00] | simon_c: | djperegrine: Hummm. |
| [02:40:00] | angryelf: | does anyone have an idea why opening either the Videos menu, or the Video Setup menu on a remote frontend causes mythfrontend (and the whole system) to lock-up???? – requiring a reboot |
| [02:40:00] | djperegrine: | so I just eneded up using a moniter instead of a TV |
| [02:41:00] | djperegrine: | but the best would get a LCD TV |
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| [02:41:00] | simon_c: | djperegrine: No budget for this project though. |
| [02:41:00] | simon_c: | just lots of old hardware. |
| [02:41:00] | djperegrine: | yea then just use a moniter |
| [02:42:00] | simon_c: | I knew I should have kept those old 21" *huge* monitors for something ;-) |
| [02:42:00] | djperegrine: | :P |
| [02:42:00] | djperegrine: | you can convert for money |
| [02:42:00] | djperegrine: | like 100 bucks for a thing :( |
| [02:43:00] | djperegrine: | that converts SVGA to RCA |
| [02:43:00] | simon_c: | djperegrine: Yeh. That's the backup position. Either that or mythweb+windows to play the programs. |
| [02:43:00] | simon_c: | djperegrine: But, I don't think my other half will go for that. She want to be able to use a remote control |
| [02:43:00] | djperegrine: | I can't get that working on 802.11b either :P |
| [02:44:00] | djperegrine: | yea |
| [02:44:00] | simon_c: | djperegrine: Strangly, sometimes I can get good enough reception to watch someting over 802.11b, and other times not. |
| [02:44:00] | djperegrine: | yea it just doesn't work at all for me |
| [02:44:00] | djperegrine: | I can't stream anything |
| [02:44:00] | djperegrine: | I mean I could set it maybe |
| [02:45:00] | djperegrine: | I've streamed stuff from the internet |
| [02:45:00] | simon_c: | and that's sitting about 10ft from the transmitter. |
| [02:45:00] | djperegrine: | yea lol |
| [02:45:00] | simon_c: | this was just mythfrontend on my work laptop |
| [02:45:00] | simon_c: | i |
| [02:45:00] | ** simon_c thinks ** | |
| [02:45:00] | djperegrine: | The wifi doesn't work for me |
| [02:45:00] | djperegrine: | Well |
| [02:46:00] | djperegrine: | not out of the box |
| [02:46:00] | simon_c: | it must be possable to get this ati stuff working. When I try starting X, I see a garbled display. Surly it's "just" a matter of the right mode line. |
| [02:46:00] | djperegrine: | I tried |
| [02:46:00] | simon_c: | just == weeks or horrible research and trying to figure out xorg in detail. |
| [02:47:00] | djperegrine: | yea |
| [02:47:00] | djperegrine: | I did that and I still didn't get it |
| [02:47:00] | simon_c: | :-( |
| [02:47:00] | djperegrine: | but there was some xorg patch that was supposed to fix it but it was for the old version |
| [02:47:00] | djperegrine: | I forget what its called |
| [02:48:00] | simon_c: | i've seen reference in xorg to the "thetar" mode, but I[m not sure if that's built into the distro yet, or if I need to build Xorg from scratch. On this box it would be about a 24 hr compile time I Think |
| [02:49:00] | djperegrine: | nah thats not true |
| [02:50:00] | djperegrine: | I did it like 7 times lol |
| [02:50:00] | djperegrine: | it takes like 3 , 4 hours |
| [02:50:00] | simon_c: | p3–600 mhz ? |
| [02:50:00] | djperegrine: | oh no |
| [02:50:00] | djperegrine: | 2 ghz |
| [02:51:00] | djperegrine: | your only running a front end right? |
| [02:51:00] | djperegrine: | no way you could run a backend to |
| [02:51:00] | simon_c: | yes. only a fe |
| [02:51:00] | djperegrine: | oh ok |
| [02:51:00] | simon_c: | the backend is on a 1.8 p4 and nearly working perfectly. |
| [02:51:00] | djperegrine: | noice |
| [02:52:00] | simon_c: | Theater_out is included into ati.2 driver when the tv_output branch is selected in the CVS repository. |
| [02:52:00] | simon_c: | After downloading ati.2, proceed with the usual installation procedure. |
| [02:53:00] | simon_c: | from the gatos sourceforge page. |
| [02:53:00] | simon_c: | did you try that ? |
| [02:53:00] | djperegrine: | yea that is what I was talking about earlier |
| [02:53:00] | djperegrine: | gatos |
| [02:53:00] | simon_c: | ahh. |
| [02:53:00] | simon_c: | :-( |
| [02:53:00] | djperegrine: | yea its part of the main branch now? |
| [02:54:00] | simon_c: | I'm not sure. I can't get my head around the docs at this time in the morning. |
| [02:54:00] | simon_c: | g |
| [02:54:00] | simon_c: | I'll give up I think. |
| [02:55:00] | simon_c: | buy a cheap DVD player, for teh kids room, and get the myth DVD writing bits working. Dump their stuff to disk and forget it. |
| [02:56:00] | djperegrine: | heh yea |
| [02:56:00] | simon_c: | bleh. It's late, and I'm knackerd. |
| [02:56:00] | simon_c: | gnight all |
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| [03:26:00] | geoff: | I think you need to poke harder |
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| [03:32:00] | Lightning: | signed my life away today, but am now a house owner :) |
| [03:32:00] | xris: | Lightning: congratz |
| [03:32:00] | Lightning: | thanks |
| [03:32:00] | xris: | the 15th was my one-year house anniversary |
| [03:32:00] | Lightning: | maybe now i will have a place for a myth box :P |
| [03:32:00] | Lightning: | ah, so your a recent owner too |
| [03:32:00] | Lightning: | i know Krazylegz is closing end of the month |
| [03:33:00] | xris: | but if you think you'll have TIME for a mythbox, you're sadly mistaken. |
| [03:33:00] | xris: | house ate up all of my dev time. heh. |
| [03:34:00] | xris: | so, who here would take a $2k paycut to work for google? |
| [03:34:00] | Lightning: | i'm already $10k below what i should be making, not me |
| [03:34:00] | Lightning: | xris, i manage to find time to work on the delorean and still dev :) |
| [03:35:00] | xris: | Lightning: just depends on what you want out of the house, I guess. |
| [03:35:00] | Lightning: | fairly new house with very little work needed actually |
| [03:35:00] | Lightning: | at least at the moment |
| [03:36:00] | kormoc|afk is now known as kormoc | |
| [03:36:00] | ** xris pokes kormoc ** | |
| [03:36:00] | kormoc: | Decided I'll sleep today and head up tomorrow |
| [03:36:00] | kormoc: | too exhusted to really drive safe |
| [03:37:00] | xris: | oh, didn't know you were going anywhere. |
| [03:37:00] | kormoc: | I was pondering going to lynnwood tonight |
| [03:37:00] | xris: | ah |
| [03:37:00] | kormoc: | so, why'd you poke me then? :P |
| [03:37:00] | xris: | mind is too busy pondering server disasters, then |
| [03:38:00] | xris: | poked because you're not sleeping. heh. |
| [03:38:00] | kormoc: | ahh |
| [03:38:00] | kormoc: | just took a dose of nyquil |
| [03:38:00] | kormoc: | put on a movie |
| [03:38:00] | xris: | heh |
| [03:38:00] | kormoc: | and gonna watch till I crash |
| [03:38:00] | ** xris goes to drink the "frozen shoulder" tea ** | |
| [03:38:00] | Lightning: | kormoc, so 30 minutes then |
| [03:38:00] | CyberKnet: | gah |
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| [03:39:00] | CyberKnet: | I spent $40 on new antennas for my iwreless router router, and the signal is no better |
| [03:40:00] | Lightning: | ouch |
| [03:40:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: lame |
| [03:40:00] | xris: | better to just get an airport |
| [03:40:00] | CyberKnet: | the antenna is getting returned. |
| [03:41:00] | CyberKnet: | airport is just $40? |
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| [03:41:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: no |
| [03:41:00] | xris: | but router + antenna is about the same |
| [03:42:00] | xris: | airport extreme apparently has awesome range |
| [03:42:00] | CyberKnet: | hmm. |
| [03:42:00] | xris: | then again, my friend who does a lot of wireless stuff has a HUGE antenna.. back when he lived in an apartment bldg, he had about a mile range. could see like 500 access points. |
| [03:43:00] | CyberKnet: | wow. |
| [03:43:00] | xris: | that was powered by a little self-contained thing with power over ethernet. |
| [03:43:00] | xris: | he ran cat5 up to the roof and plugged the box/antenna in up there. |
| [03:44:00] | xris: | then he bought a house and lives nowhere near as interesting as the university district. |
| [03:44:00] | xris: | he's big in the seattlewireless group |
| [03:45:00] | CyberKnet: | omni-directional antenna that picked up a mile away? |
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| [03:46:00] | xris: | it was on the top of a 5–6 story bldg with only smaller stuff around. |
| [03:47:00] | xris: | fairly flat part of town |
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| [03:47:00] | xris: | pretty sure it cost him a fair amount. dunno where he gets all that money for toys. |
| [03:48:00] | kormoc: | pirate radio |
| [03:48:00] | kormoc: | plunder from the high air waves |
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| [03:49:00] | CyberKnet: | I just want 30 feet |
| [03:49:00] | CyberKnet: | through one wall |
| [03:49:00] | CyberKnet: | well, through one doorway |
| [03:50:00] | xris: | airport express should work. and you get the bonus if airtunes. :) |
| [03:50:00] | CyberKnet: | yeah, but I've had the router for about six months now =) |
| [03:52:00] | xris: | odd that you get such sucky range. firmware upgrade? |
| [03:52:00] | CyberKnet: | I think I must have lead in my walls or something =) |
| [03:52:00] | xris: | lot of power cables can do it. |
| [03:53:00] | xris: | in my case, it's my counter-height oven and steel-enclosed stove. |
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| [03:59:00] | mishehu: | bah. |
| [04:05:00] | Dark`-`: | xris: when i try to load the website it tries to download program_listings.php |
| [04:05:00] | Dark`-`: | i do something wrong? |
| [04:05:00] | xris: | Dark`-`: you haven't configured php |
| [04:05:00] | Dark`-`: | ah, makes sense haha |
| [04:05:00] | Dark`-`: | ill take care of that |
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| [04:09:00] | CyberKnet: | let me post a few images so you can get an idea of how far it is from my router to where I am trying to use my laptop. it's really not far. |
| [04:10:00] | Lightning: | CyberKnet, my girlfriend has a router in the room next to her and has 100% signal and it still drops her |
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| [04:13:00] | mchou: | airport? linky? |
| [04:14:00] | mchou: | ah, apple's stuff. No wonder |
| [04:14:00] | CyberKnet: | no wonder? |
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| [04:16:00] | mchou: | (that I didn't know what it was) |
| [04:17:00] | CyberKnet: | oh, okay |
| [04:17:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [04:17:00] | CyberKnet: | I don't have any of that gear either. |
| [04:18:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: what gear you using for wireless? |
| [04:19:00] | CyberKnet: | Linksys |
| [04:20:00] | CyberKnet: | I've used belkin and at&t previously, and both were crap. I heard that linksys gear is the shit to have |
| [04:20:00] | mchou: | hmm, didnt know linksys had bad range |
| [04:20:00] | mchou: | shit as in "good" or bad? |
| [04:21:00] | mchou: | linksys firmware you can boost the power..... |
| [04:21:00] | CyberKnet: | good |
| [04:21:00] | mchou: | default setting may be a bit weak |
| [04:21:00] | CyberKnet: | I don't think linksys does have bad range |
| [04:21:00] | CyberKnet: | I think it's just my house |
| [04:22:00] | CyberKnet: | I didn't mean to sound like I was blaming the gear |
| [04:22:00] | CyberKnet: | I'm sure it's either my house, or something I've done |
| [04:22:00] | mchou: | your house has concrete walls? |
| [04:22:00] | mchou: | living in the pen? :) |
| [04:22:00] | rpete: | my apartment is just like that, tried a bunch of different routers and none of them can give a decent signal more than 20 ft |
| [04:23:00] | rpete: | I finally found just the right place up high in a central room but it was a painful process |
| [04:23:00] | mishehu: | bah. |
| [04:24:00] | CyberKnet: | hah |
| [04:24:00] | mchou: | rpete: just think, those guy in black helicopters cant eavesdrop on you as easily |
| [04:24:00] | mchou: | hehe |
| [04:24:00] | mishehu: | alright, I'm much more cheerful than I was before... |
| [04:25:00] | mishehu: | I actually got my sblive audigy 2zs platinum remote to not just work with lirc, but I got it working (mostly) with mythtv... all I need to do is tweak the .lircrc file. |
| [04:25:00] | mishehu: | so one remote device taken care of today... |
| [04:26:00] | CyberKnet: | http://www.cyberknet.net/images/router/router2.jpg |
| [04:26:00] | CyberKnet: | where you can see the couch at the far end is where I am trying to connect from |
| [04:26:00] | CyberKnet: | you can see the actual router in one of the shots. |
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| [04:27:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: dude, you NEED an interior decorator ASAP |
| [04:27:00] | CyberKnet: | uhh.. sure. |
| [04:28:00] | Dark`-`: | xris: thx, got it working now |
| [04:28:00] | rpete: | wood panel is classy, that's a start |
| [04:28:00] | CyberKnet: | I'm not crazy about the wood paneling either. |
| [04:28:00] | CyberKnet: | but I haven't had time to throw wallsizer up |
| [04:28:00] | CyberKnet: | so.. =) |
| [04:29:00] | CyberKnet: | but you can see it's really not far at all from where the router is to where the laptop is being used. |
| [04:31:00] | xris: | Dark`-`: cool |
| [04:32:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: first of all move the router farther away from the desktop CPU that's there |
| [04:32:00] | mchou: | it would also help if you didnt place the router on a metal cabinet |
| [04:33:00] | Dark`-`: | this is more intense than i expected :), good job |
| [04:35:00] | CyberKnet: | there is no desktop cpu there |
| [04:35:00] | CyberKnet: | I'm thinking about getting a wall mount for the router. |
| [04:35:00] | CyberKnet: | think it'll help? |
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| [04:43:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | for some reason, my remote frontend won't connect to my backend any more.. I get this error 2005-10–21 22:39:43.812 Database not open while trying to save setting: Language |
| [04:43:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | 2005-10–21 22:39:43.812 Unable to connect to database! |
| [04:43:00] | geoff: | mine is in the floor beneath the room I want wireless in |
| [04:43:00] | geoff: | best signal comes from below me! |
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| [04:44:00] | geoff: | (I need 2 aps for 700 sq feet!) My house was build in 1922 |
| [04:44:00] | Lightning: | JoeyJoeJo, can the two systems ping each other? |
| [04:45:00] | Lightning: | if so, is the database running on the backend? |
| [04:45:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | yup, and I cann ssh from the frontend to the backend |
| [04:45:00] | geoff: | also, If you are using a g ap and you have any computers in range using b, the speed will drop |
| [04:45:00] | djperegrine: | Could I make a backedn and frontend on a mac-mini? |
| [04:45:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | also, mythfrontend runs normally on the backend |
| [04:45:00] | CyberKnet: | hmmm. my house sits on concrete cinder block walls because it has been expanded several times. |
| [04:45:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | so I know the DB is running |
| [04:45:00] | Lightning: | JoeyJoeJo, ok, that tells me the database is up. can the two systems ping each other or talk to each other? |
| [04:45:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | yeah, I can ssh from one to the other |
| [04:46:00] | geoff: | CyberKnet: so no space at all underneath? |
| [04:46:00] | rpete: | goeff, do you have trouble getting cell phone signal indoors? |
| [04:46:00] | geoff: | yes |
| [04:46:00] | geoff: | need to be near a window |
| [04:46:00] | rpete: | sounds exactly like my place |
| [04:46:00] | Lightning: | need to get someone involved that knows mysql better. i'm not familar with the mysql command line to test remote connect by hand |
| [04:46:00] | Dark`-`: | damn that hurt, just hiccupped and burped at the same time |
| [04:47:00] | Lightning: | that would be my next test as either the mysql port may be blocked (or not being listened on for the network card, only local), or, the mythtv user in mysql is not given permission for remote connects |
| [04:47:00] | Lightning: | and i'm not sure how to test those |
| [04:48:00] | ** rpete considers putting the router in the basement ** | |
| [04:48:00] | JoeyJoeJo: | well, it's really weird that just yesterday everthing was working fine, but then the power went out, and now it's not working |
| [04:48:00] | Lightning: | lose power to the machines then? |
| [04:48:00] | geoff: | rpete yeah, and I have thin floors compared the rest of my house so it works great |
| [04:49:00] | Lightning: | that would make me wonder if maybe the mysql port is blocked or a mysql setting for local only connects was set and took effect |
| [04:49:00] | CyberKnet: | oh no, I have space. |
| [04:49:00] | CyberKnet: | just it would only reach that one room |
| [04:49:00] | Lightning: | firewall settings or mysql config |
| [04:49:00] | CyberKnet: | in account of the concrete "walls" under the thouse |
| [04:50:00] | CyberKnet: | on account, even. |
| [04:50:00] | geoff: | ouch |
| [04:50:00] | geoff: | oic what you mean now |
| [04:50:00] | geoff: | I thought you were on slab for some reason CyberKnet |
| [04:51:00] | geoff: | it it is right against the floor it might work |
| [04:51:00] | geoff: | the signal is meant to be kind of half spherical |
| [04:51:00] | geoff: | i think |
| [04:52:00] | geoff: | I may be talking out of my ass |
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| [04:52:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: sort of like why my signal doesn't reach much further than my front door. I'm on a hill, and the AP is on the floor at the back of the house. |
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| [04:55:00] | CyberKnet: | thinking about trying a cantenna next |
| [04:55:00] | CyberKnet: | I don't need omni directional |
| [04:55:00] | geoff: | is the goal to watch tv on the couch? |
| [04:55:00] | CyberKnet: | and 99% of the time I'm using the laptop in the same place. |
| [04:55:00] | xris: | cantenna is REALLY directional at short range, though, no? |
| [04:55:00] | CyberKnet: | yeah |
| [04:55:00] | CyberKnet: | 30 degrees |
| [04:56:00] | geoff: | yes , you get about 45 degeees |
| [04:56:00] | xris: | I wouldn't want to send that much radiation pointed at that part of my body. |
| [04:56:00] | geoff: | lol |
| [04:56:00] | CyberKnet: | hah |
| [04:56:00] | CyberKnet: | that's a good point =) |
| [04:57:00] | geoff: | CyberKnet: what ap? |
| [04:58:00] | geoff: | and what card |
| [04:58:00] | CyberKnet: | Linksys 802.11g |
| [04:58:00] | geoff: | wrt? |
| [04:58:00] | CyberKnet: | and laptop has wireless built in, which *really* doesn't help |
| [04:58:00] | geoff: | you might try a pccard before cantenna |
| [04:58:00] | geoff: | they are dirt cheap |
| [04:59:00] | rpete: | you could get the modified firmware and try boosting the signal, but I did that and it didn't seem to improve the situation at all |
| [04:59:00] | CyberKnet: | I have the WRT54GS |
| [04:59:00] | geoff: | might also try to see howmany other nets are around and what channels they are on |
| [04:59:00] | CyberKnet: | Only one other net three doors down |
| [04:59:00] | geoff: | you could be getting interference |
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| [04:59:00] | CyberKnet: | more than a hundred feet away |
| [05:00:00] | geoff: | nm then |
| [05:00:00] | CyberKnet: | it's about a hundred and thirty feet. |
| [05:01:00] | geoff: | the WRT54GS can run linux and do some customization of the wifi settings:http://openwrt.org |
| [05:01:00] | geoff: | but I doubt it would help |
| [05:01:00] | CyberKnet: | yeah, that's why I got the gs |
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| [05:02:00] | CyberKnet: | for the extra memory in case I wwanted to run an updated firmware |
| [05:02:00] | geoff: | :) |
| [05:02:00] | geoff: | I just got an actiontec wl-500 Delux |
| [05:02:00] | geoff: | extra mem and 2 x usb2 |
| [05:02:00] | geoff: | Deluxe |
| [05:03:00] | geoff: | I plan to set up wol to wake my master backend |
| [05:03:00] | geoff: | as soon as I can find a nic old enough to support wol with a physical cable |
| [05:03:00] | CyberKnet: | I looked at them, but they cost more, seemed to be less stable with the firmware available when I bought the router, and I couldnt think of a situation where I'd want the usb. |
| [05:04:00] | geoff: | Think flash drive |
| [05:04:00] | geoff: | usb serial for x10 home control |
| [05:04:00] | geoff: | usb audio |
| [05:04:00] | geoff: | web cam |
| [05:04:00] | geoff: | etc |
| [05:05:00] | geoff: | I sold an airport snow for $78 and the actiontec was $106 |
| [05:05:00] | geoff: | It was worth it for me, I really enjoy working with embedded devices |
| [05:06:00] | geoff: | anyone else on comcast having trouble getting to cnn.com or slashdot? |
| [05:06:00] | geoff: | or any other bigname sites? |
| [05:07:00] | CyberKnet: | nope |
| [05:08:00] | CyberKnet: | cnn loaded fine |
| [05:08:00] | geoff: | hmm, I can't seem to get to anything all the sudden |
| [05:08:00] | geoff: | but here is fine |
| [05:08:00] | geoff: | I guess time to go call comcast.... Later |
| [05:11:00] | Dark`-`: | lol great, ill be getting a call at work tomorrow from comcast bitching about it |
| [05:12:00] | geoff: | Dark? where do you work? |
| [05:12:00] | Dark`-`: | motorola |
| [05:12:00] | geoff: | lol |
| [05:12:00] | geoff: | you get comcast a lot? |
| [05:12:00] | Dark`-`: | they buy our cmts routers |
| [05:12:00] | Dark`-`: | and they're pretty high maintenance |
| [05:12:00] | geoff: | I bet they are |
| [05:13:00] | Dark`-`: | its all good though, next time im there im gunna ask them to upgrade me to "friendly" :) |
| [05:13:00] | Dark`-`: | fast modem speeds |
| [05:13:00] | geoff: | :) |
| [05:13:00] | geoff: | fast is good |
| [05:14:00] | geoff: | if you can load a site |
| [05:14:00] | Dark`-`: | lol |
| [05:14:00] | Dark`-`: | its probably their dns server |
| [05:14:00] | geoff: | fast modem dosn't help broken dns and routing |
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| [05:14:00] | geoff: | my dns lookups seem to be ok |
| [05:14:00] | geoff: | i get the ips ok |
| [05:14:00] | geoff: | but then loading fails |
| [05:14:00] | Dark`-`: | they could be the wrong ips tho |
| [05:14:00] | geoff: | as does pinging |
| [05:15:00] | geoff: | PING google.com (216.239.37.99): 56 data bytes |
| [05:15:00] | Dark`-`: | u cant load cnn? |
| [05:15:00] | geoff: | as far as I remember, that is the right ip |
| [05:15:00] | geoff: | no, I can't |
| [05:15:00] | geoff: | or slashdot |
| [05:15:00] | geoff: | or google |
| [05:15:00] | Dark`-`: | looks right, im getting 57.99 tho |
| [05:15:00] | Dark`-`: | but im sure they ahve multiple servers |
| [05:16:00] | geoff: | yeah, somthings borked |
| [05:16:00] | Dark`-`: | those those 3? lol |
| [05:16:00] | Dark`-`: | strange |
| [05:16:00] | geoff: | nah, most everything |
| [05:16:00] | Dark`-`: | you should run a traceroute |
| [05:16:00] | geoff: | except this |
| [05:16:00] | geoff: | it gets stuck at my nat |
| [05:17:00] | geoff: | I forget how to get by it |
| [05:17:00] | Dark`-`: | oh, yea most block icmp traffic |
| [05:17:00] | geoff: | and google doesn't load |
| [05:17:00] | geoff: | there is some flag |
| [05:17:00] | geoff: | I just forget |
| [05:17:00] | Dark`-`: | but u might be able to log into your router and run it there, some have the ping and traceroute utility |
| [05:17:00] | geoff: | I think I just have ping |
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| [05:18:00] | Dark`-`: | strange, u should call them then |
| [05:18:00] | geoff: | yeah |
| [05:18:00] | geoff: | I'm working on it |
| [05:18:00] | Dark`-`: | your modem and first hop router are probably ok |
| [05:18:00] | Dark`-`: | or you wouldnt be able to resolve addresses |
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| [05:18:00] | geoff: | sorry everyone for drifting so far off topic |
| [05:18:00] | Dark`-`: | lol |
| [05:19:00] | Dark`-`: | this is strange, i have the .htaccess and .htpasswd file in the mythweb dir, and edited .htaccess so it has the right info, and no authentication occurs |
| [05:20:00] | Lightning: | Dark`-`, close your browser then try |
| [05:20:00] | Lightning: | all instances of your browser |
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| [05:20:00] | mandyblock: | even the porn ones? |
| [05:20:00] | Dark`-`: | noooooo not my porn |
| [05:21:00] | CyberKnet: | free porn is easy to find, you'll be okay. |
| [05:21:00] | Dark`-`: | damn still ignores those files |
| [05:21:00] | Dark`-`: | i restarted apache2 as well |
| [05:21:00] | geoff: | doh |
| [05:21:00] | Lightning: | i assume apache is setup to use them |
| [05:21:00] | geoff: | I closed my browser and reopened |
| [05:21:00] | Dark`-`: | yea i double checked but it was on by default |
| [05:21:00] | geoff: | guess what works now |
| [05:22:00] | CyberKnet: | porn? |
| [05:22:00] | Dark`-`: | porn always works |
| [05:22:00] | geoff: | I was thinking cnn |
| [05:22:00] | Lightning: | it is usually due to an instance of the browser still in memory so you already had a valid session, or, apache config, assuming the .htaccess is readable by the webserver and set proper |
| [05:22:00] | Dark`-`: | hmm |
| [05:22:00] | Dark`-`: | yea it should be, ive double checked it but clearly i have something wrong, ill keep lookin |
| [05:23:00] | geoff: | any mac users here? |
| [05:23:00] | Lightning: | did you do a restart of apache, or a complete shutdown/start? |
| [05:23:00] | Lightning: | if you had to edit the config |
| [05:23:00] | Dark`-`: | /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
| [05:23:00] | Lightning: | did you have to edit the config to enable htaccess? |
| [05:24:00] | Dark`-`: | by what i remember it was already set to use the .htaccess file |
| [05:24:00] | Dark`-`: | but i may have edited other things |
| [05:24:00] | Lightning: | ok, .htaccess readable by all? |
| [05:24:00] | Lightning: | assuming web user doesnt own it (web user shouldnt own it) |
| [05:24:00] | Dark`-`: | yep |
| [05:24:00] | Dark`-`: | root |
| [05:24:00] | Dark`-`: | and rw-r--r-- |
| [05:25:00] | Lightning: | priv msg the .htaccess info then? |
| [05:25:00] | Dark`-`: | k |
| [05:25:00] | Dark`-`: | AuthName "MythTV" |
| [05:25:00] | Dark`-`: | AuthUserFile /var/www/localhost/htdocs/mythweb/.htpasswd |
| [05:25:00] | Dark`-`: | Require valid-user |
| [05:25:00] | Dark`-`: | oops |
| [05:25:00] | Dark`-`: | lol... |
| [05:25:00] | Lightning: | heh |
| [05:26:00] | Lightning: | no AuthType entry? |
| [05:26:00] | Lightning: | and i believe require has to be lowercase |
| [05:27:00] | Lightning: | i always have "AuthType Basic" at the top of my files, and try making a lower case r on require |
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| [05:28:00] | Dark`-`: | ok |
| [05:28:00] | Lightning: | you may have to shutdown and restart the webserver as it may have cached the current .htaccess |
| [05:28:00] | Lightning: | and your browser of course |
| [05:29:00] | Dark`-`: | still no luck :\, ill keep fiddling with it |
| [05:29:00] | Lightning: | hmm. not usually that difficult. i recall the same issue when i first started playing with .htaccess but i dont recall what else it was besides those couple things |
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| [05:30:00] | Dark`-`: | hehe its gotta be something basic that im missing |
| [05:31:00] | Dark`-`: | i have AccessFileName .htaccess in my httpd.conf |
| [05:31:00] | Lightning: | i'm looking thru my conf for apache (v1) |
| [05:32:00] | Dark`-`: | i didnt comment out any of the auth modules either |
| [05:32:00] | Lightning: | i'll list entries i find for apache 1, they may or may not apply for apache 2... |
| [05:33:00] | Dark`-`: | k |
| [05:33:00] | Lightning: | LoadModule access_module libexec/mod_access.so |
| [05:33:00] | Lightning: | AddModule mod_acccess.c |
| [05:33:00] | Lightning: | i have the accessfilename just as you do |
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| [05:34:00] | Dark`-`: | k |
| [05:34:00] | Lightning: | do you have a <Files ~ "^\.ht"> block? mine is set to deny from all |
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| [05:35:00] | Dark`-`: | yes its blocked |
| [05:35:00] | Dark`-`: | what abotu your AllowOverride line? |
| [05:36:00] | Lightning: | Directory / block, AllowOverride All |
| [05:36:00] | Lightning: | those are the only things i see |
| [05:37:00] | Lightning: | the LoadModule obviously makes sure it loads |
| [05:37:00] | Dark`-`: | yea |
| [05:37:00] | Dark`-`: | i dont have the AddModule line but the previous i do |
| [05:38:00] | Dark`-`: | there are no AddModule lines so that might be a v2 change |
| [05:38:00] | Lightning: | possibly |
| [05:38:00] | Lightning: | if you are doing a full stop then start of the web service for any changes, then i'm not sure why it is not picking up the .htaccess file |
| [05:39:00] | Lightning: | as even if the path to the .htpasswd was invalid, it should still come up. I do recall having to have the AuthType Basic as the first line, and require lowercase |
| [05:39:00] | Lightning: | that htaccess works, for reference |
| [05:40:00] | Dark`-`: | yea i have all that set up properly |
| [05:40:00] | fman: | I've added a tv_grab_nz script to mythtv |
| [05:40:00] | fman: | how do I get this to appear in the mythtv-setup |
| [05:40:00] | Lightning: | not sure where to point except google then for the issue |
| [05:40:00] | fman: | the script is in /usr/bin with the other tv_grab_x application |
| [05:41:00] | Dark`-`: | yep im checkin |
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| [05:45:00] | xris: | heh. ajax is cool |
| [05:51:00] | CyberKnet2: | cool ajax |
| [05:51:00] | xris: | w00t. ajax in mythweb is MUCH cleaner now. |
| [05:51:00] | CyberKnet2: | ajax is cool, mkay? |
| [05:51:00] | djperegrine: | ajax? |
| [05:52:00] | CyberKnet2: | is mythweb cleaner for the ajax though? |
| [05:52:00] | xris: | CyberKnet2: unfortunately, no |
| [05:52:00] | xris: | djperegrine: async javascript and xml |
| [05:52:00] | xris: | click "delete program" and it instantly disappears from the page without a refresh |
| [05:53:00] | xris: | while at the same time, javascript submits the request to mythweb for you in the background. |
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| [05:54:00] | xris: | ok, committed |
| [05:54:00] | CyberKnet: | dhtml and httpxml trickery. |
| [05:54:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [05:54:00] | xris: | that's how it is. ) |
| [05:54:00] | xris: | :) |
| [05:54:00] | xris: | but I'm done for the night. wrist is killing me. |
| [05:55:00] | CyberKnet: | have a great weekend. |
| [05:55:00] | xris: | free baking class tomorrow from kingarthurflour.com |
| [05:56:00] | xris: | ooh, new amarok |
| [05:58:00] | CyberKnet: | I saw quake4 came out. I was completely unenthused. |
| [06:07:00] | mishehu: | I got it cuz I'm bored. |
| [06:08:00] | mishehu: | but I can't play it... /quake4.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0 |
| [06:08:00] | CyberKnet: | ouch. |
| [06:08:00] | mishehu: | I donno why it can't find it... it's there in /usr/lib64... in ld.so.conf... |
| [06:08:00] | CyberKnet: | I didn't feel like spending fifty bucks on boredom =) |
| [06:08:00] | CyberKnet: | I did that with doom3 |
| [06:08:00] | mishehu: | I'm more interested in the mp mods that will come out |
| [06:08:00] | CyberKnet: | Quake4 looked like more of the same. |
| [06:09:00] | mishehu: | the single player? definitely. |
| [06:09:00] | CyberKnet: | I'll wait till they come out. |
| [06:09:00] | mishehu: | I like urban terror on quake3. |
| [06:09:00] | CyberKnet: | hopefully the game will be a lot cheaper by then. |
| [06:09:00] | CyberKnet: | I love quake 3 as shipped |
| [06:09:00] | CyberKnet: | not TA |
| [06:09:00] | mishehu: | I call it kwak anyway |
| [06:09:00] | mishehu: | kwak3 and now kwak4 |
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| [06:10:00] | mishehu: | but anyway, this executable is not a dynamic one... so I guess I have to see if I can hack it in the binary... |
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| [06:12:00] | mishehu: | I bet it has something to do with this-> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:. |
| [06:12:00] | geoff: | xris: Is it still a bad idea to use php 5 with mythweb? |
| [06:12:00] | xris: | geoff: it works for people |
| [06:12:00] | xris: | dunno, I don't run it myself yet |
| [06:13:00] | xris: | should be fine, though |
| [06:13:00] | geoff: | I just seem to get pages that are completely blank... |
| [06:13:00] | mishehu: | xris: did I tell you that I at least got ONE item working with lirc today? |
| [06:13:00] | mishehu: | heh |
| [06:13:00] | xris: | mishehu: good? |
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| [06:15:00] | geoff: | does php have an error log somewhere? |
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| [06:18:00] | geoff: | damnit... completely blank, how do I even start debugging this |
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| [06:19:00] | rpete: | hm, I remember wondering the same thing once |
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| [06:19:00] | xris: | geoff: it should email you errors to the email address in conf.php |
| [06:19:00] | xris: | but php errors also tend to go into the apache error log |
| [06:20:00] | mishehu: | xris: well seeing how much trouble I was having with the transmitter, it made me pretty damn happy to have my creative audigy remote working |
| [06:21:00] | xris: | ahh |
| [06:21:00] | geoff: | xris: yeah, I checked that already, nothing there |
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| [06:22:00] | xris: | geoff: weird. |
| [06:22:00] | xris: | well, start adding "echo 'here!'" stuff |
| [06:22:00] | geoff: | :) |
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| [06:23:00] | kahuna_: | Hi |
| [06:23:00] | ShockValue: | ack, help me out here |
| [06:23:00] | ShockValue: | i installed a larger hard drive.. copied all my recordings over to it, and then restarted |
| [06:23:00] | geoff: | xris: i get to the first line of status.php :) |
| [06:23:00] | xris: | geoff: start with the program listing |
| [06:23:00] | ShockValue: | now mythtv doesnt see any of my recordings and wont play livetv.. (both use that drive) .. what'd i screw up? |
| [06:24:00] | ShockValue: | i replicated the exact structure of the drive.. but myth doenst see the recordings for some reason |
| [06:24:00] | geoff: | xris: doesn't get past here: |
| [06:24:00] | geoff: | / Get the address/port of the master machine |
| [06:24:00] | geoff: | $masterhost = get_backend_setting('MasterServerIP'); |
| [06:24:00] | geoff: | $statusport = get_backend_setting('BackendStatusPort'); |
| [06:24:00] | geoff: | echo "here\n"; |
| [06:25:00] | xris: | geoff: separate machine for webserver? |
| [06:25:00] | xris: | otherwise, start adding them inside of get_backend_setting() |
| [06:26:00] | geoff: | no, on same |
| [06:26:00] | geoff: | changed to program_listings and doesn't make it past here: |
| [06:26:00] | geoff: | require_once "includes/init.php"; |
| [06:27:00] | ShockValue: | so i did a "copy -r /tv/* /mnt/newdrive" then I replaced the drive and mounted "newdrive" as "/tv"... what else do i need to do to get it workin again? :) |
| [06:27:00] | fryfrog: | ShockValue: what user does mythbackend run as? if it isn't root, it may be a simple permissions issue |
| [06:27:00] | fryfrog: | ie, chown or chmod to fix |
| [06:28:00] | ShockValue: | fryfrog: it starts with an init script.. so i assume root? I did a chmod -R 777 /tv as well.. which didnt change anything |
| [06:28:00] | ShockValue: | well, at least it didnt fix anything.. it changed the permissions :) |
| [06:28:00] | xris: | geoff: dunno. only way I know how to debug that stuff is to walk through the program until I figure out what's killing it. |
| [06:29:00] | fryfrog: | ShockValue: if you start the front/back with an "all" verbosity, i bet the error in the logs will make the problem obvious |
| [06:29:00] | fryfrog: | for the FE, simply adding "-v all" will do it |
| [06:29:00] | fryfrog: | i think the same is true for BE, but i use gentoo and its part of a config file |
| [06:29:00] | ShockValue: | thanks fryfrog, ill try that |
| [06:30:00] | ShockValue: | i mean, what i did should theoretically work, right? |
| [06:30:00] | ShockValue: | just copied the whole drive to a new drive, then mounted the new on in the old one's place? |
| [06:31:00] | fryfrog: | yeah, i've done it before too |
| [06:31:00] | geoff: | xris: I have narrowed it down to a line in includes/init.php |
| [06:31:00] | fryfrog: | from hd->hd, partition->hd and from NFS->hd |
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| [06:31:00] | fryfrog: | all worked fine |
| [06:31:00] | geoff: | / Connect to the database |
| [06:31:00] | geoff: | global $db; |
| [06:31:00] | geoff: | $db = new Database(db_name, db_login, db_password, db_server); |
| [06:32:00] | geoff: | before this here shows |
| [06:32:00] | geoff: | after, no |
| [06:32:00] | fryfrog: | oh, and just because an init script starts the backend doesn't mean it runs as root |
| [06:32:00] | fryfrog: | but your chmod -R 777 should have fixed it |
| [06:32:00] | geoff: | is Database a myth class? |
| [06:32:00] | xris: | geoff: includes/db.php |
| [06:32:00] | geoff: | or php |
| [06:32:00] | geoff: | got it |
| [06:32:00] | geoff: | *keeps digging* |
| [06:32:00] | ShockValue: | fryfrog: would i need to chown it too? |
| [06:33:00] | xris: | geoff: which distro are you using? |
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| [06:34:00] | Lightning: | ShockValue, the question is, what user owns /mnt/tv and what user does myhttv run as |
| [06:34:00] | fryfrog: | 777 is wide open, so chown would be a good idea for consistancy... but it shouldn't matter |
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| [06:34:00] | fryfrog: | Lightning has a point, you could be doing "chmod -R 777 /tv" |
| [06:34:00] | fryfrog: | assuming your dir is /tv |
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| [06:35:00] | geoff: | xris: sorry about bugging you |
| [06:35:00] | geoff: | but here is the latest |
| [06:35:00] | geoff: | $this->dbh = @mysql_connect($server, $login, $password) |
| [06:35:00] | geoff: | or $this->error("Can't connect to the database server."); |
| [06:35:00] | geoff: | good before this |
| [06:35:00] | geoff: | bad after |
| [06:35:00] | fryfrog: | chmod -R 777 . from *inside* the /tv dir wouldn't be enough, it wouldn't change perms on the actual /tv dir |
| [06:35:00] | geoff: | xris: Debian sid |
| [06:35:00] | Lightning: | think i need to give my dvd burner a rest... |
| [06:35:00] | xris: | did you install php-mysql? |
| [06:36:00] | geoff: | yes |
| [06:36:00] | geoff: | php5-mysql |
| [06:37:00] | xris: | remove the @ in that line you pasted |
| [06:37:00] | xris: | that'll disable the error suppression |
| [06:37:00] | Lightning: | i'm off. may not be back for a few weeks (at least until cable is ran to the new house). moving all my stuff tomorrow. but i'll be back :) |
| [06:38:00] | geoff: | xris: now we get a call to undefined function |
| [06:38:00] | geoff: | mysql_connect() |
| [06:38:00] | Lightning: | someone say hi to Krazylegz please and let him know the house went thru |
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| [06:38:00] | xris: | geoff: then you don't have mysql installed |
| [06:38:00] | xris: | or php-mysql |
| [06:38:00] | xris: | did you restart apache after installing php5-mysql? |
| [06:38:00] | geoff: | ? phpmyadmin works |
| [06:39:00] | geoff: | yes |
| [06:39:00] | geoff: | let me do it again though |
| [06:39:00] | geoff: | so is @ a standard way to suppress php errors? |
| [06:39:00] | geoff: | *learning php for a while now but still no clue* |
| [06:40:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [06:40:00] | xris: | @ turns off the error messages for that function call |
| [06:40:00] | geoff: | and that was my second dumbass moment of the night |
| [06:40:00] | xris: | ? |
| [06:40:00] | geoff: | I restarted after php5, but not after installing the mysql mod |
| [06:40:00] | fman: | well I've got this all running but can't get tv channel stuff working |
| [06:41:00] | fman: | bugger |
| [06:41:00] | geoff: | sorry to waste your time |
| [06:41:00] | geoff: | but thanks for your help |
| [06:41:00] | geoff: | and I learned something new |
| [06:41:00] | xris: | heh |
| [06:41:00] | xris: | goad it works |
| [06:41:00] | geoff: | its snappy too |
| [06:41:00] | geoff: | beats the pants off of 4 |
| [06:41:00] | geoff: | I'm now impresed |
| [06:42:00] | fman: | I've managed to fill the database up with tv listings |
| [06:42:00] | geoff: | and I can use the php 5 stuff in my projects now :P |
| [06:42:00] | fman: | but when I go to the browse mode myth crashes |
| [06:44:00] | xris: | geoff: yeah. curious to see how well it performs for some stuff at work. |
| [06:46:00] | geoff: | supposed to be like 20% on some stuff |
| [06:46:00] | geoff: | worse on others |
| [06:47:00] | geoff: | interesting benchmark here http://www.sourcelabs.com/pdfs/SourceLabsPHP4vsPHP5.pdf |
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| [06:50:00] | ShockValue: | fryfrog: I keep getting this error in the mythfrontend log: Unexpected result from MYTH_PROTO_VERSION |
| [06:50:00] | ShockValue: | mythbackend logs dont really show anything interesting |
| [06:51:00] | fryfrog: | proto version? |
| [06:51:00] | fryfrog: | that means you updated or something |
| [06:52:00] | ShockValue: | no.. i changed my tv hard drive.. nothing more |
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| [06:52:00] | ShockValue: | it was working 45 minutes ago.... this is weird |
| [06:53:00] | ShockValue: | gossamer threads is suggesting the same thing though fryfrog |
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| [06:55:00] | geoff: | xris: is there an easy way to updatw mythweb to latest svn without losing the config? |
| [06:55:00] | ShockValue: | of course, for all i know i was getting this error for weeks.. ive just never looked |
| [06:55:00] | fryfrog: | geoff: yes, copy your config :) |
| [06:55:00] | geoff: | : lol |
| [06:55:00] | geoff: | I changed some themes too |
| [06:56:00] | geoff: | no way to figure out which files changed and just copy them? |
| [06:56:00] | xris: | geoff: svn update |
| [06:56:00] | xris: | it won't touch files you've modified |
| [06:56:00] | geoff: | hmmm, I think the version I have now dates back to cvs... |
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| [07:00:00] | geoff: | what does G stand for when updating svn? |
| [07:00:00] | xris: | merged update (ie. fuzzy) |
| [07:00:00] | geoff: | gotit |
| [07:01:00] | geoff: | thanks, just copied .svn from mythplugins/mythweb to /var/www |
| [07:01:00] | geoff: | and then did svn update |
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| [07:03:00] | xris: | cool |
| [07:04:00] | geoff: | thanks again |
| [07:06:00] | ShockValue: | well, rebuilding myth to see if that PROTO_VERSION error goes away |
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| [07:34:00] | ** xris wonders why he's seeing double CyberKnets ** | |
| [07:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey xris |
| [07:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | how goes it this day? |
| [07:36:00] | xris: | not bad |
| [07:36:00] | xris: | actually got a few things done on mythweb |
| [07:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I would ask a estimate of when the next release is but more than likely the word would get out that you were going to release it then and everybody would get mad :P |
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| [07:39:00] | xris: | there isn't one |
| [07:39:00] | xris: | don't think anyone is bothering. |
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| [07:43:00] | dopester: | im sure not making a release :) |
| [07:43:00] | dopester: | how ya doin xris |
| [07:45:00] | xris: | heya |
| [07:45:00] | dopester: | sup |
| [07:49:00] | xris: | chillin |
| [07:49:00] | xris: | changing colo's tonight so I get to sit ready for things to break |
| [07:49:00] | xris: | actually, I think I'm just around to shut the machines down remotely so they don't have to plug in a kvm at the old kolo |
| [07:49:00] | xris: | colo |
| [07:50:00] | dopester: | cool im outta here |
| [07:50:00] | dopester: | long ass day |
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| [07:51:00] | xris: | later |
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| [07:56:00] | ShockValue: | ok, im totally at a loss here.. i upgraded my "tv |
| [07:56:00] | ShockValue: | drive" and now i cant watch live tv and my recording list is gone |
| [07:57:00] | ShockValue: | i get a black screen on live tv, and it takes like 60 seconds for it to tell me there are no recordings |
| [07:58:00] | ShockValue: | i see no errors in the mythbackendlog or mythfrontendlog .. i dun understand why swapping out a drive would cause this |
| [07:58:00] | ShockValue: | so.. i changed my "buffers" drive to a different path, and it still just gives me a black screen |
| [07:59:00] | ShockValue: | so.. i re-installed mythtv.. no change |
| [07:59:00] | ShockValue: | any idea what i screwed up? |
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| [08:03:00] | ShockValue: | <cry> my wife is gonna have my head :) |
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| [08:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | on a makeshift pungy stick from sharpend toothbrushes |
| [08:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ? |
| [08:04:00] | geoff: | was the database on a differnt drive? |
| [08:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ShockValue, well... can you view the video directly from the source? |
| [08:05:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: haha :) |
| [08:05:00] | ShockValue: | geoff: yes, my base system is on its own drive.. |
| [08:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | if you do say mplayer /dev/video0 |
| [08:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, :p |
| [08:05:00] | ShockValue: | SlicerDicer- good question, gonna go check |
| [08:07:00] | ShockValue: | SlicerDicer- yes, mplayer /dev/video0 worked just dandy |
| [08:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well then you do have video signal on the computer |
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| [08:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | now to find out why its not connected to myth :) must be something in mythtv-setup |
| [08:07:00] | ShockValue: | my base system was on 1 drive... and i mounted my old drive as /tv. i replaced that old drive witha new drive, and mounted it in the same place.. /tv |
| [08:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | under your card settings I would bet |
| [08:08:00] | ShockValue: | SlicerDicer- I've changed nothing except to replace teh drive where the recordings were sitting |
| [08:08:00] | ShockValue: | plug in new drive.. copy all files from old drive to new drive.. unplug old drive.. mount new drive where old drive was. that's it :) |
| [08:09:00] | ShockValue: | and the only thing that this drive had was the recordings (*.nuv) and the buffers were pointed there |
| [08:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hmm |
| [08:09:00] | hari_seldon99: | Hi |
| [08:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | perhaps permissions were not transfered? |
| [08:09:00] | hari_seldon99: | I have a hardware question wrt mythtv |
| [08:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hari_seldon99, shoot! |
| [08:10:00] | ** SlicerDicer- ducks ** | |
| [08:10:00] | hari_seldon99: | my present pvr box is a compaq deskpro 800 MHz w hauppauge pvr350 |
| [08:10:00] | ShockValue: | SlicerDicer- i did a chmod -R 777 on that drive. i can create files and directories and delete them as my mythtv user |
| [08:10:00] | hari_seldon99: | watching off of the tv-out |
| [08:10:00] | hari_seldon99: | I've been thinking abt adding a pvr150 |
| [08:10:00] | hari_seldon99: | so that I can watch & record at the same time |
| [08:10:00] | hari_seldon99: | Right now, pic & sound is piped thru the ivtv driver & tv-out |
| [08:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hmm ShockValue I dont know :/ I figure if you can watch video off of /dev/video0 then its got to be something with the mythtv-setup buut I am no expert |
| [08:11:00] | hari_seldon99: | I saw in the manuals that the pvr150MCE has no audio-out, only audio-in |
| [08:11:00] | ShockValue: | SlicerDicer-i would agree, but i've changed nothing :( |
| [08:11:00] | hari_seldon99: | how do I get sound off of my pvr150 when it's in use |
| [08:11:00] | hari_seldon99: | ? |
| [08:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hari_seldon99, I can watch and record at the same time with my pvr350 without issue |
| [08:11:00] | hari_seldon99: | oh? how? |
| [08:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | using the hardware decoder |
| [08:12:00] | hari_seldon99: | Whenevr I try mythtv says "all inputs are used for recording" |
| [08:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dunno why cant you? are you using the hardware decoder? |
| [08:12:00] | hari_seldon99: | yes |
| [08:12:00] | hari_seldon99: | I configged it in mythtv's setup |
| [08:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh that... I thought you were talking about watching things that were recording :) |
| [08:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats why I have 2 cableboxes hehe |
| [08:12:00] | hari_seldon99: | no, watching a program while recording another |
| [08:12:00] | hari_seldon99: | like tivo |
| [08:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah I switch inputs |
| [08:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah hari_seldon99 it would require getting another card |
| [08:13:00] | hari_seldon99: | I was thinking abt the pvr150 mce |
| [08:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | IIRC anyway mchou may be able to shed some light on that |
| [08:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | he runs a buncha pvr-150's |
| [08:13:00] | ShockValue: | mchou: any clue what i screwed up? |
| [08:13:00] | hari_seldon99: | a bunch? Wanna sell me one? :) |
| [08:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [08:15:00] | hari_seldon99: | so I'm getting both audio & video off of my present pvr350. But the pvr150 has no tv-out, right? |
| [08:15:00] | xris: | well, so much for our webserver. |
| [08:16:00] | hari_seldon99: | so I'll have to pipe the audio thru the soundcard of the box |
| [08:16:00] | hari_seldon99: | but I saw no "line out" in the pvr150MCE manual |
| [08:17:00] | mchou: | hari_seldon99: you dont need line out on 150 |
| [08:17:00] | hari_seldon99: | oh |
| [08:17:00] | hari_seldon99: | so how do I get sound? |
| [08:17:00] | hari_seldon99: | thru the composite audios? |
| [08:17:00] | mchou: | just like how you dont need line out playing back mpeg movie previews |
| [08:18:00] | mchou: | the sound is encoded in the recording (in the mpeg file) |
| [08:18:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok |
| [08:19:00] | hari_seldon99: | so, apart from connecting the coax cable thru a splitter (on wire to the 150, other to the 350) I dont have to do any more wiring? |
| [08:19:00] | mchou: | nope |
| [08:19:00] | hari_seldon99: | oh |
| [08:19:00] | hari_seldon99: | ah |
| [08:19:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok |
| [08:19:00] | mchou: | hari_seldon99: and you're too late re 150s, I sold them all |
| [08:19:00] | hari_seldon99: | oh |
| [08:19:00] | hari_seldon99: | pity |
| [08:19:00] | hari_seldon99: | Sniping for one on ebay now |
| [08:20:00] | hari_seldon99: | cross fingers |
| [08:20:00] | mchou: | hari_seldon99: how much on ebay right now? |
| [08:20:00] | hari_seldon99: | well this chap's auctioning it off |
| [08:20:00] | mchou: | roughly..... |
| [08:20:00] | hari_seldon99: | 2 days 2 go, bidding at $5.51 |
| [08:20:00] | mchou: | haha!! |
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| [08:20:00] | hari_seldon99: | prob'ly go for around $70 |
| [08:21:00] | mchou: | forget about it. |
| [08:21:00] | hari_seldon99: | oh? |
| [08:21:00] | mchou: | no, the $5.50 |
| [08:21:00] | hari_seldon99: | well, yeah. Obviously it'll be oodles more than THAT |
| [08:21:00] | hari_seldon99: | hoping around $70 |
| [08:21:00] | mchou: | you can get one retail at around $60. |
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| [08:22:00] | hari_seldon99: | retail is around $100 |
| [08:22:00] | hari_seldon99: | so... |
| [08:22:00] | mchou: | bullshit |
| [08:22:00] | hari_seldon99: | oh? |
| [08:22:00] | mchou: | retail is around $60 |
| [08:22:00] | hari_seldon99: | where? Oh, do show me effendi |
| [08:22:00] | mchou: | so if you paying $70 on fleabay you are overpaying |
| [08:22:00] | mchou: | google is your friend |
| [08:23:00] | hari_seldon99: | I checked on Froogle |
| [08:23:00] | mchou: | screw froogle |
| [08:23:00] | hari_seldon99: | regular google? |
| [08:23:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok |
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| [08:24:00] | ShockValue: | ok, im stupid. |
| [08:24:00] | ShockValue: | <sigh> |
| [08:25:00] | ** ShockValue thinks outloud ** | |
| [08:25:00] | hari_seldon99: | http://www.pchotline.com/index.cfm?fuseaction . . . oduct_ID=154 |
| [08:25:00] | hari_seldon99: | ? |
| [08:25:00] | ShockValue: | 1: system working fine. 2: mess with mysql permissions 3: wait 3 days. 4: shutdown and install new hard drive. 5: mythtv b0rked |
| [08:26:00] | ShockValue: | i was blaming #4.. i think it might be #2 :) |
| [08:26:00] | ShockValue: | i just hadnt restarted since i screwed with mysql permissions... i had forgotten about it since i did it days ago |
| [08:27:00] | ShockValue: | now the task at hand is how to fix it :) |
| [08:32:00] | hari_seldon99: | anywho thx for the info, looks like I can get a cheap one retail & not have to go fleabaying |
| [08:34:00] | hari_seldon99: | I mean: mchou:thx for the info, looks like I can get a cheap one retail & not have to go fleabaying |
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| [08:42:00] | ShockValue: | if mythbackend is having trouble reading/writing to the mysql database, i assume i would be getting some kind of errors, no? |
| [08:45:00] | mchou: | yup |
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| [08:51:00] | ShockValue: | hmm, perhaps thats not the problem then.. i see no errors in mysql or myth logs concerning mysql |
| [09:00:00] | eiggirC: | Can I ask about a distro's package for mythweather and friends here? |
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| [09:00:00] | ShockValue: | i dont see why not.. but if its not gentoo, i wont be able to help (even if it was...) :) |
| [09:01:00] | eiggirC: | well – debian unstable says that mythweather depends on libqt3c102-mt. Fine. But its not installable. The replacement package is libqt3-mt which is already installed |
| [09:01:00] | eiggirC: | what am I doing wrong? |
| [09:01:00] | ** ShockValue hides ** | |
| [09:01:00] | eiggirC: | ShockValue: thanks :) |
| [09:01:00] | ShockValue: | sorry, never used debian :) im sure someone here has though... Anyone awake? :) |
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| [09:22:00] | ** ShockValue cries. ** | |
| [09:22:00] | ShockValue: | brand new plasma tv, and my mythv install is b0rked :) |
| [09:22:00] | eiggirC: | ShockValue: obviously they're all off watching recorded programmes |
| [09:22:00] | eiggirC: | heh – watch Live TV through the plasma's tuner |
| [09:22:00] | eiggirC: | or use a VCR |
| [09:22:00] | eiggirC: | or get the mythbox going |
| [09:22:00] | eiggirC: | good motivation |
| [09:22:00] | ShockValue: | tv doesnt have a tuner.. it's just the display |
| [09:23:00] | eiggirC: | yeah – use a VCR |
| [09:23:00] | eiggirC: | watch a DVD |
| [09:23:00] | ShockValue: | bah.. i just want my frickin mythtv to work :) |
| [09:23:00] | eiggirC: | good motivation to get it going then :) |
| [09:23:00] | ShockValue: | oops.. looks like my compile is done.. brb |
| [09:24:00] | ShockValue: | oh im motivated.. im re-installing the entire thing to see if that will help.. im getting errors suggesting i have mismatched versions of the front/backend .. how that happened, i have no idea |
| [09:25:00] | ShockValue: | 50" hi-def plasma scrolling 640x480 black and white compiler text. it's sad :) |
| [09:31:00] | eiggirC: | HAH! |
| [09:31:00] | eiggirC: | why a plasma, and not a projector? |
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| [10:04:00] | PaulWay: | Anyone burnt SVCDs from nuvexport? |
| [10:11:00] | ShockValue: | ok, im totally frickin baffled |
| [10:12:00] | ShockValue: | ive recompiled every myth module.. ive dropped the mythconverg database and started over.. and yet i still cant get it to play live tv. which it was doing fine until 3 hours ago |
| [10:13:00] | ShockValue: | the only error I am getting is: Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION |
| [10:13:00] | ShockValue: | and according to the mail archives, this is caused by a version mismatch... which doesnt make sense since i just reinstalled the entire suite of myth of 18.1 |
| [10:14:00] | ShockValue: | if anyone has any suggestions, i'd love to hear it |
| [10:14:00] | ShockValue: | mplayer /dev/video0 works fine.. just in case you were going to ask :) |
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| [10:20:00] | PaulWay: | Don't ask me, ShockValue... |
| [10:20:00] | PaulWay: | Wish I could help, but I just use the RPMs from atrpms. |
| [10:20:00] | bradd: | hi.. anyone know of a driver for a 'leadtek winfast tv2000xp' that will enable its hardware mpeg2 encoding? |
| [10:21:00] | PaulWay: | What I'd like to know is why seeking back and forward chomps when using XvMC. |
| [10:21:00] | PaulWay: | bradd: I have one of those, but I didn't know it had built-in hardware mpeg2 encoding. |
| [10:21:00] | PaulWay: | I'm not using it at the moment – we're fully digital TV here... |
| [10:21:00] | PaulWay: | (in this house, anyway) |
| [10:22:00] | bradd: | yeah, it has it builit-in on hardware.. |
| [10:22:00] | PaulWay: | That'd be very handy indeed. |
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| [10:24:00] | Krazylegz: | bradd: Backend machine is running the frontend? |
| [10:25:00] | bradd: | well I'm following a tutorial that wants me to install 'ivtv' but I read thru ivtv's docs and it specifically states that my card isn't supported.. so I was wondering if anything similar was out there for me to use |
| [10:26:00] | PaulWay: | bradd: the tutorial mentions your card specifically? |
| [10:26:00] | PaulWay: | What are the dates on both documents? |
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| [10:28:00] | bradd: | dated oct 8 2005.. it sez a 'leadtek Winfast pvr-2000' won't work.. I have a leadtek winfast tv2000xp so I'm assuming they're similar.. |
| [10:28:00] | bradd: | this is from 'ivtv's web site |
| [10:29:00] | PaulWay: | The tv2000xp may be a later card. |
| [10:31:00] | Krazylegz: | lspci? |
| [10:32:00] | bradd: | comes up as a 'conexant winfast tv2000 xp (rev 05)' |
| [10:40:00] | PaulWay: | So what happens if you do try to modprobe the ivtv drivers, bradd? |
| [10:42:00] | bradd: | nothing yet, I haven't made the ivtv modules.. think I should try for the heck of it? |
| [10:42:00] | Krazylegz: | Looks like Winfast tv2000 is bttv? |
| [10:43:00] | bradd: | yup, cx8800,cx88xx get loaded too |
| [10:43:00] | PaulWay: | I thought it was bttv, but the question is to get the mpeg2 encoder working, which the bttv driver may not do. |
| [10:43:00] | bradd: | yeah, I'm googling around.. |
| [10:43:00] | Krazylegz: | Hmm, bttv wouldn't do MPEG2 no. |
| [10:44:00] | Krazylegz: | I'll leave you two to it. ;-) |
| [10:44:00] | PaulWay: | Same here – off to dinner for me. |
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| [14:41:00] | Juski: | good afternoon |
| [14:41:00] | laga: | hello Juski |
| [14:42:00] | Juski: | Hi laga. still can't get mythmusic to emerge. I think my install is borked |
| [14:42:00] | Juski: | leaving that for now.. gonna try out the cx88-blackbird driver today |
| [14:42:00] | Juski: | how's it going at your side of things? |
| [14:43:00] | laga: | very lazy. currently upgrading mythwiki.de to the latest mediawiki ;) |
| [14:44:00] | Juski: | I found out last night why the coax feed I put in for the dbox didn't work |
| [14:44:00] | laga: | the blackbird driver? that was the driver for some pvr 250s, right? |
| [14:44:00] | Juski: | yep laga.. that's the one.. only I've got a leadtek lr6632 (PVR2000OEM) |
| [14:44:00] | Juski: | I figure I might be able to help them – if only in terms of testing |
| [14:45:00] | Juski: | but of course if it just works ;) |
| [14:45:00] | laga: | hehe, nice |
| [14:46:00] | laga: | well, the plutohome guys have a special version of this driver, i believe they called it "compatibility layer" for ivtv |
| [14:46:00] | Juski: | I compared the sources.. they look pretty much the same |
| [14:46:00] | Juski: | cx88-blackbird now has comments saying it has parts of ivtv in it |
| [14:46:00] | laga: | oh, ok. well, good luck woith it then ;) |
| [14:47:00] | Juski: | yeh – god I must have been bored the day I looked into that |
| [14:47:00] | laga: | hehe, yep ;) |
| [14:47:00] | ** Juski makes note to self.. get life! ** | |
| [14:48:00] | laga: | i upgraded mediawiki from 1.4.6 to 1.4.11, but it says it's version 1.4.10. argh. |
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| [14:48:00] | Juski: | I can't make up my mind whether I like wikis or not. you can spend all day following links around |
| [14:49:00] | Juski: | oo tvtime has finished emerging |
| [14:49:00] | laga: | hehe. when i'm bored, i either read cooking recipes or wikipedia, it's great |
| [14:50:00] | Juski: | and I read driver source code :/ |
| [14:50:00] | laga: | great way to annoy the wife: print it and read while having breakfast |
| [14:51:00] | Juski: | heheh |
| [14:51:00] | Juski: | that'd work.. if my wife ever had breakfast |
| [14:52:00] | Juski: | eh? I've got no /dev/video0 |
| [14:52:00] | Juski: | but I've had mythtv working with a dvb tuner already in this machine |
| [14:53:00] | laga: | dvb tuners dont give you /dev/video0 |
| [14:53:00] | Juski: | ahh |
| [14:56:00] | Juski: | I need to pass the cx88-blackbird some config info to tell it which card I have.. how do I do that? never played with analogue cards before |
| [14:56:00] | laga: | Juski: modinfo <module name> |
| [14:56:00] | Juski: | thanks laga |
| [14:58:00] | Juski: | don't see anything about card types in there |
| [15:00:00] | laga: | ugh, don't know what to do then |
| [15:01:00] | Juski: | oh damn... my ssh terminal is acting really weird |
| [15:02:00] | Juski: | think a reboot is in order |
| [15:02:00] | laga: | huh? |
| [15:02:00] | laga: | umm, ok |
| [15:02:00] | Juski: | yeh I quit out of nano, and I get text instead of the terminal prompt |
| [15:03:00] | Juski: | Starting a new syntax type: "ebuild" |
| [15:03:00] | Juski: | wtf?! |
| [15:03:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [15:04:00] | Juski: | I might just have to cut my losses here & go binary |
| [15:05:00] | Juski: | damn.. just rebooted, opened nano, quit out of it.. same thing |
| [15:06:00] | Juski: | to hell widdit.. think I'll give ubuntu another spin |
| [15:06:00] | Juski: | I haven't got all day |
| [15:07:00] | Juski: | nothing to stop me building from source in that (I don't think) |
| [15:10:00] | laga: | ugh |
| [15:10:00] | laga: | why do you want to change the distro only because the editor is broken? ;) |
| [15:10:00] | Juski: | I have a feeling that more than just the editor is broken |
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| [15:10:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [15:10:00] | ** Juski thinks hard about the history of the HDD in that machine... ** | |
| [15:15:00] | Juski: | ubuntu mythtv forum? how many mythtv forums are there?! |
| [15:16:00] | Rince: | as much as distributions/Unix-derivates exists... :) |
| [15:16:00] | Juski: | well I know where to point ubuntu users when they ask in mythtvtalk now |
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| [15:49:00] | Juski: | that was a quick install |
| [15:55:00] | laga: | all painless? |
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| [15:59:00] | Juski: | laga: ish |
| [15:59:00] | Juski: | not got myth started installing yet |
| [15:59:00] | Juski: | trying to hold back the sniggers as I open the 'add/remove programs' menu |
| [16:00:00] | laga: | hehehe |
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| [16:08:00] | jd86: | for some reason my init script for mythbackend isn't working |
| [16:22:00] | maniacxs: | jd86: any error messages? |
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| [16:29:00] | jd86: | maniacxs: i fixed it :) |
| [16:30:00] | maniacxs: | jd86: ok |
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| [16:43:00] | Juski: | ack... |
| [16:44:00] | Dark`-`: | i finally fixed the .htaccess thing |
| [16:44:00] | Juski: | 0.17 is the latest package of mythtv in ubuntu? I've not been using it 2 minutes & I'm put off already |
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| [16:47:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | i have a quick question, is there anyway to get mythtv to work with the windows xp media center remote control? |
| [16:49:00] | Dark`-`: | if you edit your config file for the remote then i dont see why not |
| [16:49:00] | Dark`-`: | should be able to use basically any remote |
| [16:50:00] | Dark`-`: | u can program it by pushing the buttons too if there isn't already a config for that remote |
| [16:50:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | isnt there a db online of remotes and config files |
| [16:51:00] | Dark`-`: | maybe, im not sure |
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| [16:52:00] | DarkBeer: | there's a list of lirc supported remotes http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/ |
| [16:53:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | yeah its there |
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| [16:54:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | im downloading it now |
| [16:54:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | hope its better then media center |
| [16:54:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | just one thing i really like bout media center i dont think im gonna get with myth |
| [16:56:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | what is mythmusic? |
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| [17:02:00] | Dark`-`: | anyone know if i can use the RCA video out on the WinTV-Go Plus card to output to my TV? like if I ran the frontend through that somehow |
| [17:02:00] | Dark`-`: | my video card only has svideo out and unfortunately my tv sucks so it doesn't have that |
| [17:06:00] | jd86: | svideo doesn't work so well on that tv. |
| [17:07:00] | Dark`-`: | well doesnt work at all lol |
| [17:07:00] | Dark`-`: | cuz its not there ;) |
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| [17:09:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | anyone know of any plugins for mythtv that streams music from online (or music videos) like it finds songs (like on online radio stations) |
| [17:09:00] | jd86: | i have a cable box (motorola i can get # if needed) with it looks like svideo out, and some sort of serial port, what is the serial looking port used for? and how can i (if possible) use the video from the cable box and mythtv so i can watch digital cable on my mythbox (and how do you control the box?) |
| [17:09:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | kind of like media centers mtv overdrive |
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| [17:19:00] | Hoxzer`: | how do I set mythtv channels? |
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| [17:28:00] | jd86: | i recorded shows before, is there a way to re-add them in (from another setup, with another database i've long lost) |
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| [17:38:00] | jd86: | ah |
| [17:38:00] | jd86: | i found it |
| [17:38:00] | jd86: | myth.rebuilddatabase.pl |
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| [17:43:00] | Hoxzer`: | is there some way how to minimize mythtv-setup? |
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| [17:58:00] | jd86: | Can you use the tuner and svideo at the same time |
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| [18:32:00] | jd86: | anyone aroun? |
| [18:32:00] | jd86: | i need help with changing channels on a dct2000 |
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| [18:35:00] | sunshine82: | can someone help me set up mythtv |
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| [18:45:00] | ShiftyPowers: | anyone been able to use ssh -X mythfrontend to have video play on a remote location? |
| [18:46:00] | Dark`-`: | well ive used the frontend on a remote pc |
| [18:46:00] | Dark`-`: | so im assuming the video play would work too |
| [18:46:00] | ShiftyPowers: | but frontend on a remote pc |
| [18:46:00] | ShiftyPowers: | does that play the video on the remote screen? |
| [18:46:00] | Dark`-`: | didnt try but i think i remember reading in the manual that its possible |
| [18:46:00] | ShiftyPowers: | what i'm trying to do is have my HTPC that is connected to my projector be controlled by a laptop wirelessly |
| [18:46:00] | Dark`-`: | has to stream it to you |
| [18:47:00] | jd86: | anyone have any experiance with the dct2000 scripts? |
| [18:47:00] | ** Dark`-` is goin to radioshack to get a VGA to RCA cable for my tv ** | |
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| [18:47:00] | Dark`-`: | my vid card doesn't have rca out :\ |
| [18:48:00] | ShiftyPowers: | dark what manual were you reading? |
| [18:48:00] | Dark`-`: | mythtv wiki i think |
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| [19:04:00] | juski_: | you can buy an adapter to go from svideo to composite for not much money ($2 or so) |
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| [19:06:00] | juski_: | and btw, ShiftyPowers.. moving video sucks over remote desktop connections ;) better to use mythfrontend on the remote machine |
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| [19:24:00] | mandyblock: | I use vnc to run it remotly |
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| [19:25:00] | juski_: | I find it unusable for video over a 100mbit connection |
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| [19:34:00] | DeltaF: | Anyone have S-video issues with a GeForce 5200? |
| [19:36:00] | juski_: | I had one working for a long time til I changed my frontend to an EPIA |
| [19:37:00] | DeltaF: | I think it may be the svideo->RCA adapter because I don't even get a signal when in text mode booting. |
| [19:37:00] | juski_: | DeltaF: it's more likely to be your TV |
| [19:38:00] | DeltaF: | Can some not handle the adapter? |
| [19:38:00] | juski_: | some can't handle the video output from graphics cards |
| [19:38:00] | juski_: | how old is the set? |
| [19:38:00] | DeltaF: | And FYI, I think I salvaged the adapter from a different card – probably my ATI. |
| [19:38:00] | DeltaF: | I've had my ATI output to it multiple times from windows.. |
| [19:38:00] | StillBob: | DeltaF: check fedorasolved.com, misfit_toy posted a TV out guide |
| [19:39:00] | juski_: | ahh.. so who knows if it's the right pinout for a nvidia card then |
| [19:39:00] | DeltaF: | That's one thought I had.. It's supposed to be the same, but I caught a reference saying that some are non-standard. |
| [19:39:00] | kormoc: | DeltaF, the ati card uses a nonstandard pinout to do one connector for svideo and compostite |
| [19:39:00] | kormoc: | DeltaF, the nvidia one is just svideo |
| [19:40:00] | DeltaF: | The plug is still a 7-pin svideo, but that would explain it. |
| [19:40:00] | juski_: | if you can solder it's easy to fix |
| [19:40:00] | juski_: | if it's 7 pin, then it ain't svideo ;) |
| [19:40:00] | jd86: | ok i pretty much got the dct2000 thing working (t swhiches channels but extremly slow entering the numbers) and sometimes it doesn't finish before it switches channels... can i speed it up? or is there a new script to do it? |
| [19:41:00] | DeltaF: | It's backwards compatible *if* the pins are in the right spot. :) |
| [19:41:00] | juski_: | it might carry svid signals, but it's not a defacto svideo connector |
| [19:41:00] | jd86: | tvbox ~ # setserial /dev/ttyS0 |
| [19:41:00] | jd86: | /dev/ttyS0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4 |
| [19:41:00] | jd86: | is that right? |
| [19:42:00] | juski_: | a diesel pump nozzle might fit in the gas tank of your car.. but that doesn't mean it'll work |
| [19:42:00] | DeltaF: | OK. Well, I just have to find a proper 4-pin connector. |
| [19:42:00] | DeltaF: | That's a better feeling than needing to find a new video card. :P |
| [19:43:00] | juski_: | DeltaF: most decent electronics stores should stock 4pin to RCA adapters |
| [19:43:00] | DeltaF: | Yup. Radio Shack here I come... |
| [19:44:00] | DeltaF: | Anyone running myth on a WinTV-Go? |
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| [19:45:00] | jd86: | DeltaF: i think my card is a wintv-go, one of them at least, i'm not sure what _Card_ it is exactly |
| [19:45:00] | jd86: | DeltaF: bttv detects Hauppauge WinTV |
| [19:46:00] | DeltaF: | How's the quality? |
| [19:46:00] | jd86: | eh |
| [19:46:00] | jd86: | alright |
| [19:46:00] | jd86: | its alright if you're watching on tv |
| [19:46:00] | jd86: | but if you're watching from monitor, its kind of iffy |
| [19:46:00] | jd86: | but its great for the price i baught it for |
| [19:46:00] | jd86: | i just use it to watch tv, and do recording on my pvr 150 |
| [19:46:00] | DeltaF: | How is color acurracy? |
| [19:47:00] | jd86: | alright, i didnt analyze it too much, i was just happy to get it working |
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| [19:50:00] | malaTG: | hi everyone I accidently removed a nuv file and now I can't remove it from within myth. This happend a while ago and I used a script that I found to recreate a fake nuv file. However i have lost the script and don't know how to solve it..... anyone eager to help :-) |
| [19:51:00] | stoffel: | man touch? |
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| [19:52:00] | malaTG: | how do you mean? |
| [19:52:00] | juski_: | malaTG: look in the mythtv log to find out which file it thinks it can't delete |
| [19:52:00] | malaTG: | ok thx |
| [19:52:00] | juski_: | then do a touch <filename> to create the dummy file |
| [19:52:00] | malaTG: | ok I'll try that |
| [19:53:00] | juski_: | and now.. it's time for the weekend. have fun y'all |
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| [19:55:00] | malaTG: | thx a lot guys. The solution is always obvious when you see it........ |
| [19:57:00] | _Nero_: | does anyone else get a bunch of warnings like this when compiling: /usr/lib/qt-3.3/include/qxml.h:433: warning: â has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor |
| [19:57:00] | stoffel: | _Nero_: yeah, just ignore them |
| [19:57:00] | _Nero_: | it appears to be an issue with qt, but is it something to be concerned about? |
| [19:57:00] | _Nero_: | ok.. good- just wanted to make sure.. been seeing those for a while. |
| [19:58:00] | _Nero_: | (though myth seems to run fine) |
| [19:58:00] | jd86: | anyone have any experiance with the dct2000 serial stuff, the python script is so slow |
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| [20:11:00] | Hoxzer`: | what could be the problem if I try to watch TV with myth mythbackend says "Device resource is busy" altrought I don't use it to anything and I just tested it with czap and it worked propelly |
| [20:11:00] | Hoxzer`: | After I shutdown mythbackend and mythfrontend czap gives the same error |
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| [20:15:00] | jd86: | does the line in on the pvr150 work in linux? |
| [20:19:00] | Jester_: | Anyone has experience with transfering VHS content to DVDs ? If so I'd like some feedback on the method you used. Thank you |
| [20:24:00] | DeltaF: | Press record before you press play. |
| [20:24:00] | DeltaF: | ;) |
| [20:27:00] | cosmo_: | awesome Delta, do you work in the industry ;) |
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| [20:28:00] | _Nero_: | why does this VHS->DVD question sound familiar and pretty much un-related to mythtv? |
| [20:29:00] | mandyblock: | I get all my porn straight from dvd now |
| [20:29:00] | mandyblock: | no need to transfer from vhs |
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| [20:30:00] | [Klatuu]: | you pay for porn? |
| [20:30:00] | cosmo_: | well, what if you had the awesomist porn video ever on vhs, and needed to keep it?\ |
| [20:30:00] | mandyblock: | I didn't say anything about paying... |
| [20:30:00] | cosmo_: | ^ another good point |
| [20:30:00] | [Klatuu]: | you said on DVD |
| [20:31:00] | Hoxzer: | No data from DVB card GEEZ :D |
| [20:31:00] | cosmo_: | I want a descreet optical device that I can drag to a blockbuster and quickly rip a dvd without being caught, now that would be awesome |
| [20:31:00] | mandyblock: | then I'd wait for the special edition on DVD |
| [20:31:00] | Hoxzer: | ok, guys |
| [20:31:00] | [Klatuu]: | hrmm |
| [20:31:00] | [Klatuu]: | porn with audio commentary |
| [20:31:00] | cosmo_: | oooh, deleted scenes! |
| [20:31:00] | Hoxzer: | really strange any ideas why czap can get data out of my card but not mythtv? |
| [20:32:00] | mandyblock: | does anyone else find the mythtv themes hidius? |
| [20:33:00] | [Klatuu]: | hideous? |
| [20:33:00] | _Nero_: | nope, not I.. :) |
| [20:33:00] | mandyblock: | what one you like |
| [20:33:00] | [Klatuu]: | what do you think is a good theme? |
| [20:33:00] | _Nero_: | There are 1 or 2 I am not particularly fond of.. |
| [20:33:00] | _Nero_: | I like MythCenter, and GANT, and am partial to my own theme.. ;) |
| [20:33:00] | _Nero_: | ("Old Film") |
| [20:33:00] | mandyblock: | only one I like is mythtvMediaCenter |
| [20:34:00] | mandyblock: | but it's really old |
| [20:34:00] | _Nero_: | yeah- only works with 0.17, right? |
| [20:34:00] | mandyblock: | I have it working with current cvs |
| [20:34:00] | _Nero_: | nice.. |
| [20:35:00] | Alphix: | Blaaaah....a kernel update from 2.6.11 to 2.6.14-rc5 has killed audio from MythMusic....something seems weird with oss emulation and MythTV...sound works from mplayer and xine with both alsa and oss output, and from the parts of mythtv which use alsa, but mythmusic fails |
| [20:35:00] | mandyblock: | but wish it was being updated |
| [20:35:00] | _Nero_: | I am waiting for the new OGL interface to be done.. THEN we can get some real theming.. |
| [20:35:00] | [Klatuu]: | so |
| [20:35:00] | [Klatuu]: | is mysql 5 going to work with mythtv? |
| [20:36:00] | _Nero_: | Klatuu- I dont see why not. |
| [20:36:00] | Alphix: | [Klatuu]: if qt supports it, mythtv should support it |
| [20:36:00] | [Klatuu]: | mmmk |
| [20:36:00] | [Klatuu]: | portage wants to update to mysql 5 |
| [20:37:00] | [Klatuu]: | and I don't want to do it if it will screw everything up |
| [20:37:00] | _Nero_: | It might screw everything up.. |
| [20:37:00] | _Nero_: | I would say stick with 4 for now.. |
| [20:37:00] | _Nero_: | 5, from what I have read, is just introducing much more in terms of features (linked searches, etc..).. stuff that myth isn't taking advantage of.. not worth the risk. |
| [20:38:00] | _Nero_: | and unless you are writing something that will take advantage, no need to upgrade at this point. |
| [20:38:00] | [Klatuu]: | I found this at the gentoo forums: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-393803-h . . . -mysql5.html |
| [20:38:00] | [Klatuu]: | no one answered him so I am wary |
| [20:39:00] | Hoxzer: | "2005-10–22 18:38:13.893 DVB#0 ERROR – No PIDS set, please correct your channel setup." Can somebody tell me how to setup these "Pids"? |
| [20:39:00] | Hoxzer: | what do they even me? |
| [20:39:00] | Hoxzer: | *mean |
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| [20:47:00] | Hoxzer: | :D I don't mind if I get some help |
| [20:47:00] | Hoxzer: | "2005-10–22 18:38:13.893 DVB#0 ERROR – No PIDS set, please correct your channel setup." Can somebody tell me how to setup these "Pids"? What do they even mean? |
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| [20:48:00] | [Klatuu]: | I don't know |
| [20:48:00] | [Klatuu]: | have you googled it? |
| [20:49:00] | [Klatuu]: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine? . . . rch_type=AND |
| [20:49:00] | Hoxzer: | yes I have |
| [20:49:00] | Hoxzer: | ...almost |
| [20:51:00] | Hoxzer: | thx for the link btw |
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| [20:55:00] | Alphix: | snd-pcm-oss....working everywhere but in mythmusic....ring a bell anyone? |
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| [21:05:00] | Hoxzer: | where should I put my "tv_grab_fi" to be able to use it in video source setup? |
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| [21:09:00] | Juski: | dammit – been running ubuntu for like 5 minutes now I need to upgrade the kernel.. arrgghhh! |
| [21:10:00] | Hoxzer: | you don't neeed to :D |
| [21:10:00] | Hoxzer: | you can set updates off |
| [21:11:00] | Juski: | No, Hoxzer I do need to upgrade the kernel. otherwise I'll end up messing about with other stuff |
| [21:11:00] | Hoxzer: | oh |
| [21:12:00] | Hoxzer: | well then good luck! |
| [21:12:00] | Hoxzer: | lett the force be with you |
| [21:12:00] | Juski: | ahh hang on it's already got the modules I need (phew) |
| [21:13:00] | Juski: | ah no.. there's no cx88-dvb |
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| [21:22:00] | Hoxzer: | :D |
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| [21:23:00] | Hoxzer: | I got owned: "What is that witch behind the laptop" -> "biuuuu" "oh now I know |
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| [21:28:00] | Hoxzer: | so where should I put my tv_grab_fi so I can use it in video source setup |
| [21:28:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: you could probably make a symlink to a grabber that is known to mythtv-setup |
| [21:29:00] | Hoxzer: | how ... oh baby tell me hoo |
| [21:29:00] | Hoxzer: | w |
| [21:29:00] | laga: | man ln? ;) |
| [21:29:00] | Hoxzer: | tell me full line |
| [21:30:00] | Hoxzer: | ln "something" "something" |
| [21:31:00] | laga: | uh, i'm not here to read manuals to people |
| [21:31:00] | Hoxzer: | :D |
| [21:31:00] | Hoxzer: | YOU ARE |
| [21:31:00] | Hoxzer: | don't escape help poor Hoxzer :( |
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| [21:38:00] | Hoxzer: | .... |
| [21:39:00] | Hoxzer: | ln -s tv_grab_fi ? |
| [21:39:00] | Hoxzer: | ln -s tv_grab_fi dvb.xmltv? |
| [21:39:00] | Hoxzer: | just tell me :D |
| [21:39:00] | laga: | ln -sf tb_grab_fi tv_grab_de_tvtoday for example |
| [21:40:00] | Hoxzer: | oh |
| [21:40:00] | Hoxzer: | but there is no tv_grab_* at all |
| [21:40:00] | Hoxzer: | at least locate didn't find anything |
| [21:41:00] | laga: | did you do an updatedb before? and where is your _grab_fi then? |
| [21:41:00] | Hoxzer: | in /home/mythtv |
| [21:44:00] | Hoxzer: | and I have not done "updatedb" |
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| [21:49:00] | laga: | oh well, just copy your tv_grab_fi to /usr/local/bin/tv_grab_de_tvtoday |
| [21:50:00] | Hoxzer: | eh.. but it is "de" |
| [21:50:00] | Hoxzer: | shouldn't I then choose germany when I setup my video source? |
| [21:50:00] | laga: | 21:28 < laga> Hoxzer: you could probably make a symlink to a grabber that is |
| [21:50:00] | laga: | known to mythtv-setup |
| [21:50:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: right! |
| [21:50:00] | Hoxzer: | :D but I'm not from germany |
| [21:51:00] | laga: | so? it will use tv_grab_fi then |
| [21:52:00] | Hoxzer: | ok, lets give a try |
| [21:53:00] | Hoxzer: | should I restart my mythtv-setup? |
| [21:53:00] | laga: | and makre sure to open a ticket at cvs.mythtv.org to request that the .fi grabber is added to mythtv-setup |
| [21:53:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: i dont think it will be necessary |
| [21:54:00] | Hoxzer: | :E eh.. |
| [21:54:00] | Hoxzer: | I didn't do anything |
| [21:55:00] | Hoxzer: | just told me I should run "myhfilldatabase --manual" |
| [21:55:00] | laga: | it's probably right |
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| [21:56:00] | parag0n_: | has anyone ever used the btaudio module with mythtv? |
| [21:56:00] | Hoxzer: | wait a sec now |
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| [21:58:00] | Hoxzer: | now I understand this |
| [21:59:00] | parag0n_: | i think i've managed to find the only bttv card in the WORLD that ONLY supports btaudio |
| [22:00:00] | parag0n_: | no other audio connections at all! |
| [22:00:00] | parag0n_: | hmm, gotta reboot, new kernel |
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| [22:12:00] | jonK: | fg |
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| [22:20:00] | Hoxzer: | what fg means? |
| [22:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | fg means foreground. It's bring a backgrounded or paused process to the foreground |
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| [22:23:00] | jemarcks: | yum cant find the nvidia for my kernel. yum install nvidia-graphics7667-kmdl-$KVER didnt work. I have 2.6.11–1.1369_FC4smp |
| [22:24:00] | jemarcks: | No Match for argument: nvidia-graphics7667-kmdl-2.6.11–1.1369_FC4smp |
| [22:24:00] | jemarcks: | Nothing to do |
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| [22:52:00] | parag0n: | should my mouse cursor dissapear when i use mythtv? |
| [22:52:00] | parag0n: | i'm trying to tune in my tv card, and theres no way to press the "scan for channels" button :( |
| [22:53:00] | Goose-Npa: | yes it should |
| [22:53:00] | parag0n: | so how do i press the button? |
| [22:53:00] | Goose-Npa: | i use my remote |
| [22:53:00] | parag0n: | that'd work, if i had one xD |
| [22:56:00] | parag0n: | what type of remote do you have? |
| [22:56:00] | laga: | try moving around with the cursor keys and press enter |
| [22:57:00] | parag0n: | thats how i configured the rest of it |
| [22:57:00] | parag0n: | but it wont go to the two buttons on the bottom of that page |
| [22:57:00] | laga: | do you have an anlogue card? |
| [22:57:00] | parag0n: | yeah |
| [22:59:00] | laga: | channel scanning doesnt work in mythtv 0.181 for analogue cards |
| [22:59:00] | parag0n: | aw :( |
| [23:00:00] | parag0n: | how am i meant to tune in my card? use another program? |
| [23:00:00] | laga: | read the manual, look for mythfilldatabase --manuel |
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| [23:09:00] | Hoxzer: | can somebody tell me what to do if I get "2005-10–22 21:07:45.639 DVB#0 ERROR – No PIDS set, please correct your channel setup." when I try to watch live tv |
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| [23:12:00] | Hoxzer: | I wonder how guys setup their boxes if they don't even know that ;// |
| [23:13:00] | laga: | did you scan for channels? |
| [23:17:00] | Hoxzer: | yes |
| [23:17:00] | Hoxzer: | mythfilldatabase --manual I did |
| [23:18:00] | parag0n: | how long does that nrmally take to run? |
| [23:19:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: mythfilldatabase --manual does not scan. you can scan in the setup |
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| [23:24:00] | Hoxzer: | eh :E |
| [23:24:00] | Hoxzer: | seems like mythtv-setup wont save my starting channel :D |
| [23:24:00] | parag0n: | BAH, my TV card is bust >:( |
| [23:25:00] | parag0n: | someone recommend me a DVB card that'll work with myth |
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| [23:26:00] | Hoxzer: | like lol |
| [23:26:00] | Hoxzer: | I setup my starting channel to 1 |
| [23:27:00] | Hoxzer: | and it stays there |
| [23:27:00] | Hoxzer: | then I start frontend which seems to clear the value totally |
| [23:30:00] | Hoxzer: | well the frontend doesn't clear the channel but when I try to watch live TV then the value is gone |
| [23:31:00] | Hoxzer: | only blackscreen and I have to shutdown the mythtv via console |
| [23:31:00] | Hoxzer: | and backend tells me "2005-10–22 21:07:45.639 DVB#0 ERROR – No PIDS set, please correct your channel setup." |
| [23:32:00] | laga: | well, did you scan for channels? |
| [23:33:00] | Hoxzer: | where it is? |
| [23:33:00] | Hoxzer: | "video sources?" |
| [23:34:00] | laga: | no, in the channel editor i believe |
| [23:34:00] | Hoxzer: | Ok.. |
| [23:34:00] | Hoxzer: | "Error parsing parametres" |
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| [23:34:00] | NightShadow: | hey |
| [23:35:00] | NightShadow: | Does mythtv have support for h263/avc? |
| [23:35:00] | Hoxzer: | http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t= . . . 16a8c425b5ca seems like this is my problem |
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| [23:40:00] | Hoxzer: | :D seems like that guy didn't solve the problem |
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| [23:42:00] | Hoxzer: | Hmmm.. didn't gave a error if I use "full scan to existing channels" or something like that |
| [23:43:00] | Hoxzer: | how long should the scan progress take? |
| [23:43:00] | laga: | good night. |
| [23:43:00] | laga: | Hoxzer: well, till it's done |
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| [23:45:00] | Hoxzer: | :D |
| [23:45:00] | Hoxzer: | isn't there any bard where I could see it? |
| [23:45:00] | NightShadow: | any ideas wabout my question? |
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