| Wednesday, October 19th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | NightMonkey: | Does any zap2it users here have a lot of "NO DATA" channels that need to be purged? |
| [00:00:00] | NightMonkey: | Does any="Do any"... |
| [00:00:00] | NightMonkey: | And are also capable of backing up (and restoring) their mysql DB? |
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| [00:05:00] | Juski: | laga.. do you know the command to reboot a dbox from a telnet session? I've tried reboot but it only succeeds in closing the telnet connection as far as I can tell |
| [00:08:00] | Juski: | lol – had to go downstairs to reset it again anyway |
| [00:08:00] | levolap: | Juski, I feel your pain. reboot does not always succeed (sometimes it does, strange enough) |
| [00:09:00] | laga: | Juski: ok ;) |
| [00:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | NightMonkey: the further away from "now" in the listings the more of those I seen in the 8pm-12am timerange on some mchannels |
| [00:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | and yes I can backup and restore my database :) |
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| [00:13:00] | Cagochi: | anybody have any idea what kind of strange things can cause many of my nuv files that were 1 hour recordings to suddenly be only have size??? I've lost the second have of at least 4 of my shows already. |
| [00:13:00] | Led-Hed: | anyone here good with Software RAID? |
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| [00:15:00] | ** levolap points Led-Hed to man mdadm ** | |
| [00:15:00] | Led-Hed: | why am I not supprised |
| [00:15:00] | levolap: | ;) |
| [00:16:00] | laga: | anyone here good with meta questions? ;) |
| [00:16:00] | Cardoe: | laga: do you have a URL to info about the dbox2? |
| [00:18:00] | ** levolap hits laga with his 5lbs meta physics book ** | |
| [00:18:00] | laga: | Cardoe: http://www.tuxbox.org/ |
| [00:19:00] | Cardoe: | laga: what is it? |
| [00:19:00] | laga: | Cardoe: oh, sorry. |
| [00:19:00] | Cardoe: | like a MediaVP from Hauppauge? |
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| [00:20:00] | Cardoe: | a little standalone mythfrontend capable box? |
| [00:20:00] | laga: | Cardoe: well, it's a set top box. it can receive DVB-S and DVB-C, and you can hack it and put linux on it |
| [00:20:00] | Juski: | Cardoe.. it's mostly just a cable or satellite receiver |
| [00:20:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: I'm looking for testers on a SQL statement that will take care of this. I've tested it on my DB (after backup, of course), and it deleted the 47 channels I had that were empty of program data. |
| [00:20:00] | Cardoe: | what parts of the world? |
| [00:20:00] | laga: | Cardoe: germany for me. |
| [00:21:00] | Juski: | europe only, I think, Cardoe |
| [00:21:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: Here it is: |
| [00:21:00] | NightMonkey: | select channel.chanid,channel.channum from channel natural left JOIN program where program.title IS NULL; |
| [00:21:00] | Cardoe: | ah |
| [00:21:00] | NightMonkey: | (sorry, that's the testing one, good to try first) |
| [00:22:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: And here's the one that needs a backup ;) : |
| [00:22:00] | NightMonkey: | delete channel, program from channel natural left JOIN program where program.title IS NULL; |
| [00:22:00] | Cardoe: | why a natural left join? |
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| [00:23:00] | NightMonkey: | Cardoe: Channel will have some record of a chanid, while program will not, if there's no data for that channel. |
| [00:23:00] | NightMonkey: | So, I'm looking for people with zap2it deleted channels cruft to test and make sure I've not missed some edge case. |
| [00:24:00] | Cardoe: | really doesn't seem like their can be an edge case |
| [00:24:00] | NightMonkey: | Cardoe: I hope not. I trust myself, but verify... ;) |
| [00:24:00] | Cardoe: | well a left join should give you program.title IS NULL |
| [00:25:00] | NightMonkey: | Cardoe: Right. |
| [00:25:00] | NightMonkey: | Cardoe: That's what I hoped someone would say... ;) |
| [00:26:00] | NightMonkey: | Cardoe: Thanks. Now, I just hope someone with cruft will test, too. |
| [00:27:00] | NightMonkey: | Cardoe: I hand counted, with MythWeb, and used an equivalent SELECT to craft it, so I'm pretty confident. |
| [00:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Natur: I |
| [00:27:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: Do you have pure "NO DATA" channels in your DB? |
| [00:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | NightMonkey: I don't have channels of "no data". I have time periods, almost all in the 8pm-12am timeframe |
| [00:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | no |
| [00:28:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: Hmm... Was datadirect updates logging a success? |
| [00:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Do you mean did I have any errors on a mythfilldatabase? If so then the answer is no |
| [00:30:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: Huh. Any mysql errors? In /var/log/mysql/ ? |
| [00:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nope |
| [00:30:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: Let me check my listings, one sec. |
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| [00:31:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: Can you give me a non-local channel that is exhibiting this? |
| [00:31:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: (call letters, I'll match) |
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| [00:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | Spike: (SPIKEC), A&E (ARTSC) And tons of others |
| [00:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | the further out in time I go the more common it is |
| [00:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | but it makes sense |
| [00:34:00] | NightMonkey: | Cardoe: Oh, and I'm using "natural" because that's a shortcut to avert the need for a USING clause. |
| [00:34:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: What's the nearest-in-time example? |
| [00:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | Thursday |
| [00:35:00] | ** NightMonkey is going SQL-KrAzY today ** | |
| [00:35:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: OK, I'll check. One sec. |
| [00:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | What EXACTLY are you looking for or looking to accomplish ? |
| [00:36:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: What channel? |
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| [00:36:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: Uh, to help you figure out why you're having this problem? |
| [00:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | I know exactly why this is happenning |
| [00:36:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: Oh. |
| [00:36:00] | Juski: | anyone seen the xbox media center screen calibration stuff? would it be worth looking at trying to code something similar in mythtv to make setting up screen sizes easier (bearing in mind the changes that are coming to the UI at some point in the future) ? |
| [00:37:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: Why? |
| [00:38:00] | briand: | Juski: I have not seen the xbox media center screen calibration stuff, but a UI to help set up screen size(s) in MythTV would be nice... |
| [00:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | NightMonkey: When you first download the listings from zap2it you get 12–14 days of listings. And quite often zap2it doesn't have the updated programs listings for that far in the future. Then everyday when you do an update it updates today, tomorrow, and grabs the next furthers 12–14th day in the future. So the day that WAS day 12 and had a no data doesn't get updated until it "becomes" tomorrow |
| [00:38:00] | Led-Hed: | with mdadm what is the superblock used for? |
| [00:39:00] | Juski: | basically, briand... it has 2 triangles for setting up the corners of the screen, which you move with the joystick. you can also set subtitle positions etc that way |
| [00:39:00] | Juski: | funnily enough, the dbox also has them |
| [00:39:00] | briand: | Juski: that would be a tremendous help... |
| [00:40:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: I wonder why everyone isn't having this, then? Are you going to purge your program DB, and re-load? |
| [00:40:00] | Juski: | only when the corners are set would mythtv then need to re-load & scale everything :) |
| [00:40:00] | briand: | the main menus of Myth look fine on my television (PVR-350, using it's TV-Out), but most of the setup screens hide the bottom row of buttons ([back] [forward] [cancel] [accept], or whatever they are...) |
| [00:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | NightMonkey: zap2it might very well have data for that area that far into advance. And most people just don't know it's a problem |
| [00:41:00] | briand: | ...i usually have to go through those screens several times, pressing the 'down arrow' a specific number of times before hitting 'ok' on the remote — then go back to see if the changes "took" or not. |
| [00:41:00] | Juski: | yeh I know that feeling.. that's an hour of your life you're never gonna see again |
| [00:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | You COULD make mythfilldatabase attempt to fill in the missing hours as well as download the normal days it currently gets, but it doesn't really bother or affect me that much |
| [00:42:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: OK, thought you were trying to troubleshoot it when you mentioned it. |
| [00:42:00] | Juski: | it's alright for these people with plasmas & projectors... |
| [00:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | if it did I would just do a mythfilldatabase --refresh-all to wipe and fill in all of the data |
| [00:42:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: Yep. |
| [00:42:00] | briand: | Juski: heh.. indeed. and, I've tried playing with 'windowing' Myth... but then it just chops it off at the same point where I run out of television screen — no scroll bars, or shrinking of the page or anything. (ie: it's a near-useless 'feature' for me) |
| [00:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | No, I mentioned it cause you asked if anyone wsa seeing "No Data" in their listings :) |
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| [00:43:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: I should have been more specific. I am looking for people who have deleted channels over 13 days ago from their zap2it channel list. |
| [00:44:00] | Juski: | I guess if I was to do it, it might be possible to bring it in even with the UI changes |
| [00:44:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: So their current list shows "NO DATA". |
| [00:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | That I don't have :) |
| [00:44:00] | NightMonkey: | GreyFoxx: Sorry for the kuk-up... |
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| [00:45:00] | briand: | Juski: yeah.. it's just a minor annoyance for me. I've got the PVR-350 recording/playing back, and the PVR-500 recording on both of it's tuners... the rest is just "icing" after that. |
| [00:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | no worries :) |
| [00:45:00] | hari_seldon99: | Hi |
| [00:45:00] | briand: | I've yet to (successfully) set up/use MythMusic or MythVideo |
| [00:45:00] | hari_seldon99: | I just installed knoppmyth on a dedicated PVR box |
| [00:45:00] | briand: | ...although, I would like to burn a few shows I've been saving to DVD |
| [00:45:00] | hari_seldon99: | It works, except for the Hauppauge grey remote |
| [00:46:00] | briand: | hari_seldon99: set up lirc? |
| [00:46:00] | hari_seldon99: | knoppmyth is supposed to have lirc configged for the hauppauge grey remote by dflt |
| [00:46:00] | hari_seldon99: | & the lirc.conf file looks okay |
| [00:46:00] | ** Juski wonders if there's a #lirc ** | |
| [00:46:00] | hari_seldon99: | dunno |
| [00:47:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Yes, but only 4 people there... |
| [00:47:00] | Darby_: | hari_seldon99: does irw do anything? |
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| [00:47:00] | hari_seldon99: | hang on |
| [00:47:00] | briand: | hari_seldon99: dunno what to tell ya, then. I followed the Fedora installation guide on wilson.net, and had the machine built, installed, and up and running in under two hours. |
| [00:48:00] | hari_seldon99: | I'm logged in to my PVR remotely using ssh, do I have to export the display to the tv or anything before I run irw? |
| [00:48:00] | briand: | irw should 'catch' the IR signals from the remote and report them on-screen. |
| [00:48:00] | briand: | so, you'd need to be in the room with the machine |
| [00:48:00] | Darby_: | hmmmm.... well you would need to run irw and then point the remote at the receiver that's plugged into the pvr, hit buttons and see if anything happens |
| [00:49:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok, hang on. I'll goto my PVR and so it |
| [00:49:00] | Darby_: | "anything" being what briand said ;-) |
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| [00:51:00] | jd86: | ok i got another bt878 card (ati wonder ve card this time) and the sound isn't coming out of the line out either.. something is wierd.. but the screen is black and white now |
| [00:52:00] | Juski: | jd86.. wrong tuner type? |
| [00:52:00] | jd86: | so something more is going on.. |
| [00:52:00] | jd86: | Juski: maybe would that make the card not turn on the line out? |
| [00:52:00] | Juski: | maybe it's muted because there's no audio |
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| [00:53:00] | Juski: | which would happen if the tunertype was wrong.. wrong standard being set or something like that |
| [00:53:00] | jd86: | alright.. how do i find out what tuner i have.. |
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| [00:54:00] | Juski: | there's 'autodetect'.. which doesn't always work |
| [00:54:00] | hari_seldon99: | I'm back |
| [00:54:00] | jd86: | which is what its using now |
| [00:54:00] | hari_seldon99: | I ran irw, nothing |
| [00:54:00] | Juski: | otherwise it's a case of googling and trying different ones |
| [00:54:00] | jd86: | i have the card in front of me, does it say on there somewhere? |
| [00:55:00] | jd86: | its made in singapore ;) |
| [00:56:00] | jd86: | and it says FI1236 thats tuner=2 i believe |
| [00:56:00] | briand: | hari_seldon99: okay. just checking: you did plug the IR receiver into the IR port on the hauppauge card, right? and you were pointing the remote at it? |
| [00:56:00] | hari_seldon99: | Yes |
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| [00:56:00] | hari_seldon99: | When I press buttons on the remote, the power LED on the tv starts flashing |
| [00:56:00] | hari_seldon99: | could there be some kind of interference? |
| [00:57:00] | briand: | what happens (you can do this from your ssh login) when you type "modinfo lirc_i2c" |
| [00:57:00] | hari_seldon99: | hang o |
| [00:57:00] | hari_seldon99: | n |
| [00:57:00] | Dark`-`: | so i got my tv tuner today, and found out i might have wasted $8 on the components i bought for the high-power lirc remote because my card came with an IR blaster :\ |
| [00:57:00] | Juski: | jd86.. so set bttv to use tuner type 2 & see how it goes |
| [00:57:00] | Dark`-`: | anyone know if the IR blaster that plugs into the WinTV pci cards is supported by some type of driver with linux? |
| [00:57:00] | jd86: | yea it auto detected 19 |
| [00:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | Dark`-`: What kind of WinTV card (I suspect the answer is yes btw) |
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| [00:58:00] | Dark`-`: | Go Plus |
| [00:58:00] | Juski: | jd86: I used to mess around with btwincap.. that never used to be able to autodetect properly either.. but that's more down to the cards |
| [00:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'd be suprised if lirc didn't support it |
| [00:58:00] | Dark`-`: | damn |
| [00:59:00] | Dark`-`: | wasted money then lol |
| [00:59:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok, I entered modinfo lirc_i2c. Here are the results: http://pastebin.com/398075 |
| [00:59:00] | Dark`-`: | not too much but still |
| [00:59:00] | Dark`-`: | had no idea this thing came with an ir blaster |
| [00:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | Are you sure it's an IR blaster and not just an IR receiver ? |
| [00:59:00] | Dark`-`: | its both |
| [00:59:00] | Juski: | sell the components, assembled into a blaster, on ebay, Dark`-` |
| [00:59:00] | Dark`-`: | has a receiver and a blaster |
| [01:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | cool |
| [01:00:00] | Dark`-`: | lol i guess i could do that |
| [01:00:00] | Dark`-`: | although i was gunna build it on a breadboard |
| [01:00:00] | Dark`-`: | i dont have the pcb |
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| [01:00:00] | Dark`-`: | ill figure out what to do with it, its a 0.33F cap ;) |
| [01:00:00] | hari_seldon99: | It's the Hauppauge grey remote that came with the PVR 350 when I bought it:http://www.ph.utexas.edu/~daneel/remote.jpg |
| [01:00:00] | jd86: | :( it still doesn't work, i did modprobe bttv tuner=2 and its color now, but sound still no go. |
| [01:01:00] | jd86: | and it locks up when trying to change channels |
| [01:01:00] | briand: | hari_seldon99: did you set up a lircrc file? |
| [01:01:00] | Dark`-`: | the only thing is, do you think lirc supports it even though it connects to the PCI card itself |
| [01:01:00] | Dark`-`: | theres like some port on the card that the transmitter and receiver plug into |
| [01:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | Dark`-`: It probably does support it |
| [01:02:00] | Dark`-`: | ok |
| [01:02:00] | hari_seldon99: | brian: you mean in the user dir? |
| [01:02:00] | briand: | hari_seldon99: that's the same card/remote i have here. |
| [01:02:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok, good |
| [01:02:00] | briand: | hari_seldon99: well, both. should be one in /home/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc and then a link called '.lircrc' in /home/mythtv |
| [01:02:00] | jd86: | Juski: :( |
| [01:02:00] | briand: | [root@mythtv mythtv]# ls -la .lir* |
| [01:02:00] | briand: | lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 27 Jun 10 23:27 .lircrc -> /home/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [01:03:00] | hari_seldon99: | Yes, there is a file there |
| [01:03:00] | hari_seldon99: | Shall I post it? |
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| [01:03:00] | briand: | i did that because I'm running a script that let's the 'power' button on the remote start up mythtvfrontend if it's not running, or stop it if it is. |
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| [01:04:00] | Juski: | only another like 57 tuner types to try, jd86 :( |
| [01:04:00] | hari_seldon99: | briand: I posted my lircrc file: http://www.ph.utexas.edu/~daneel/lircrc |
| [01:04:00] | Juski: | jd86.. you tried plugging some speakers into the line out of the tuner card? |
| [01:05:00] | jd86: | Juski: yes |
| [01:06:00] | jd86: | because i have ivtv modules installed, would it screw with the bttv modules? |
| [01:06:00] | Juski: | ahhh it might do, jd86 |
| [01:06:00] | jd86: | how do i clense myself of those evil drivers? |
| [01:07:00] | jd86: | ah |
| [01:07:00] | jd86: | hrm |
| [01:07:00] | briand: | hari_seldon99: here's mine: http://pastebin.com/398082 |
| [01:08:00] | Juski: | I give up on this dbox business.. was working earlier when I rebooted the box.. and now it's not. time to list it on ebay |
| [01:08:00] | hari_seldon99: | briand: so if I just overwrite my file w yours and restart the lirc daemons, that'll do it? |
| [01:08:00] | jd86: | Juski: if this works, then my other wintv card might work too.. i'll be pimping like 3 cards :) |
| [01:09:00] | briand: | hari_seldon99: I don't know.. you could try that. I would rename your file to something else.. lircrc.old, etc.. rather than deleting it. |
| [01:09:00] | Juski: | jd86.. 2 bttv cards in a machine might be kinda tricky |
| [01:09:00] | briand: | hari_seldon99: y'know... just in case my file makes it worse on your machine. |
| [01:09:00] | briand: | :) |
| [01:09:00] | jd86: | Juski: yea.. i can afford another machine to be able to have more then one card... but just for knowing.. whats the tricky part? |
| [01:09:00] | hari_seldon99: | briand: right |
| [01:10:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok, lemme try that for a sec |
| [01:10:00] | Juski: | getting 2 soundcards working & figuring out which one is which |
| [01:10:00] | jd86: | tv audio doesn't work still |
| [01:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | Unless you can get the btaudio driver going and pull the audio data right from the card rather than through the sound card |
| [01:11:00] | jd86: | GreyFoxx: i can't even get the damned line out working |
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| [01:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | Just the added CPU requirements alone make it an unfavourable choice |
| [01:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | My BTTV cards have been sitting on ashelf for almost 2 years now |
| [01:12:00] | jd86: | i just want the line out to work.. i dont know why it wouldn't just always be on.. |
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| [01:15:00] | Kabutor: | I have a BT848, did I get a improvement if I switch to a bt878? Im getting some "frames lost" (like slow motion for a couple of seconds), Im testing rtjpeg ATM.. but the card is making me wonder.. |
| [01:16:00] | kormoc: | Kabutor, short answer, not really, no |
| [01:16:00] | kormoc: | Kabutor, longer answer, just get a pvr 150 and be happy :P |
| [01:17:00] | hari_seldon99: | briand: I rebooted the pvr. I put your lirc config file in ~/.mythtv/lircrc & still nothing |
| [01:17:00] | Kabutor: | how much is one of those? |
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| [01:18:00] | briand: | hari_seldon99: do you have a .lircrc linked to the ~/.mythtv/lircrc in myth's home directory as well? |
| [01:19:00] | Kabutor: | I even have a Nexus-S DVB here because it didnt fit in the box |
| [01:19:00] | hari_seldon99: | briand: yes |
| [01:19:00] | jd86: | why is this being such a gooakelrha;l |
| [01:19:00] | briand: | hari_seldon99: mythfrontend NOT running, with irw running? |
| [01:19:00] | hari_seldon99: | here is my output of /var/lo/messages:http://pastebin.com/398091 |
| [01:20:00] | hari_seldon99: | mythfrontend is NOT presently running. Shall I run both mythfrontend AND irw simultaneously? |
| [01:20:00] | Goose-Npa: | can you batch encode with avidemux? |
| [01:20:00] | Juski: | it's just not my night tonight.. dbox goes on ebay this weekend |
| [01:20:00] | briand: | put a space between 'messages:' and 'http' so my irc client will pick up the URL |
| [01:21:00] | briand: | no, don't run them both simultanously... mythfrontend will show on the screen, most likely. umm.. well, did you try just firing up mythfrontend and seeing if it worked there now? |
| [01:23:00] | hari_seldon99: | briand: I ran both irw & mythfrontend at once. Nothing. I ran mythfrontend after terminating irw, nothing |
| [01:23:00] | hari_seldon99: | as you can see from my /var/log/messages, it detects my remote |
| [01:23:00] | briand: | which buttons were you trying? the arrow keys should navigate thru the menus. and, as i said, i didn't see your /var/log/messages because you occluded the URL from my IRC client. |
| [01:24:00] | jd86: | Juski: do you have any idea why on both of these cards the sound line out doesnt worK/ i doubt its coincidence that i got two cards with broken audio outs... and what possible driver stuff could be messing with audio out? (i'm asking you because you've anserd alot of questions relating to this) |
| [01:24:00] | hari_seldon99: | briand: sorry, my /var/log/messages is here:http://pastebin.com/398091 |
| [01:25:00] | hari_seldon99: | I pressed every button on the remote, nothing |
| [01:25:00] | briand: | okay, now put a space between "here:" and "http" or just paste the URL without commentary |
| [01:26:00] | hari_seldon99: | http://pastebin.com/398091 |
| [01:26:00] | briand: | in other words, "here:http:// ..." is not a valid URL, and is not recognized as a URL by my software. ;) |
| [01:26:00] | hari_seldon99: | sorry abt that man |
| [01:26:00] | Juski: | jd86.. if it's happenning on both cards I suspect it's more likely a driver issue |
| [01:27:00] | Juski: | just out of interest, jd86... what video decoder device is on the bttv card? |
| [01:27:00] | jd86: | Juski: i totally removed ivtv, including the drivers it stuck in /extra/ in modules, i dont know what there is left to do.. i'm going to continue searching google but i think ive seen most of the web with the word bttv in it |
| [01:27:00] | jd86: | like what chip? |
| [01:27:00] | Juski: | yep |
| [01:27:00] | jd86: | 878 |
| [01:27:00] | jd86: | which i'm supposed to use the bttv driver for right? |
| [01:27:00] | jd86: | people talk about this cx88 driver.. what is it? |
| [01:27:00] | Juski: | can't imagine that conflicting with ivtv |
| [01:28:00] | briand: | hari_seldon99: hmm. that's nearly exactly what i get here with "dmesg | grep irc" |
| [01:28:00] | jd86: | Juski: well ivtv had a bunch of modified tuner.ko and stuff |
| [01:28:00] | Juski: | jd86.. cx88 is for newer cards |
| [01:28:00] | jd86: | alright |
| [01:28:00] | jd86: | i'm just looking for an answer |
| [01:28:00] | Juski: | though it might be backwards compatible.. I dunno |
| [01:28:00] | Krazylegz: | I <3 MythTV. |
| [01:28:00] | Juski: | I H8 my dbox |
| [01:29:00] | briand: | you are less than 3 MythTV's ?? |
| [01:29:00] | briand: | ;) |
| [01:29:00] | Krazylegz: | I am! |
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| [01:32:00] | hari_seldon99: | briand: so what could be the prob, hardware? |
| [01:33:00] | hari_seldon99: | shall I take pics of my connections and post them? |
| [01:33:00] | hari_seldon99: | It'll take 5 mins |
| [01:33:00] | Led-Hed: | in fstab I have LABEL=/boot /boot. /boot is mounted from /dev/sda1 how would I change fstab to mount /boot from /dev/md0 ? |
| [01:33:00] | briand: | sure, why not. i'd be happy to take a look |
| [01:33:00] | hari_seldon99: | briand: ok cool. hang on... |
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| [01:41:00] | Dark`-`: | anyone here use the gentoo ebuilds for mythtv or lirc? |
| [01:41:00] | red_fox: | yep |
| [01:41:00] | Dark`-`: | if so, how'd they work out for ya? |
| [01:42:00] | red_fox: | fine, no problems to report |
| [01:42:00] | Dark`-`: | ok |
| [01:42:00] | Dark`-`: | thx |
| [01:42:00] | Kabutor: | use the ~x86 ones better I think |
| [01:42:00] | Dark`-`: | 0.18.1-r1 is the current for mythtv |
| [01:42:00] | Dark`-`: | non masked |
| [01:43:00] | Dark`-`: | not new enough? :) |
| [01:44:00] | Kabutor: | masked is media-tv/mythtv-0.18.1-r2 wich probably fix some bugs |
| [01:44:00] | hari_seldon99: | briand: ok, I've taken pics, built a photoalbum and am uploading to my web page |
| [01:44:00] | Dark`-`: | cool |
| [01:44:00] | briand: | okay... |
| [01:45:00] | Kabutor: | what I mean is that is masked is not going to be much different, but a bit newer. :) |
| [01:45:00] | hari_seldon99: | http://www.ph.utexas.edu/~daneel/photoalbum/D . . . Export3/pvr/ |
| [01:45:00] | hari_seldon99: | That's the url of the album |
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| [01:46:00] | Dark`-`: | yea i'd rather have r2 anyway |
| [01:47:00] | briand: | hari_seldon99: can you post a 'dead-on' shot of the back of the card, with all the connections on it? |
| [01:47:00] | hari_seldon99: | ok, hang on |
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| [01:50:00] | mewyn: | hi, does anyone know much about mythcommflag? |
| [01:50:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I know a little... what's up? |
| [01:50:00] | mewyn: | i'm trying to figure out what it's putting into the database |
| [01:51:00] | Kabutor: | Are there any update for myth-game support for xmame-0100 ? |
| [01:51:00] | mewyn: | i'm perticularly looking to get a dump on a specific recording to make a dvd automatically with chapter breaks at the commercials |
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| [01:52:00] | briand: | mewyn: why not do a "describe" on the table and see what it's saving there? |
| [01:52:00] | PaulWay[w]: | The question is, which table? |
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| [01:53:00] | Nwallins: | anyone having problems with zap2it / datadirect? i have installed knoppmyth, opened an acct w/ zap2it, but myth won't download the program guide |
| [01:53:00] | Cardoe: | FUCK |
| [01:53:00] | Cardoe: | my PVR-500 showed up today |
| [01:53:00] | PaulWay[w]: | As briand says, if you know which table it's updating, have a look at the contents for a show that you've got commflagged and then work out what it means... |
| [01:53:00] | Cardoe: | and 3 of the capacitors are broken off |
| [01:53:00] | hari_seldon99: | briand: the back is here |
| [01:53:00] | hari_seldon99: | http://www.ph.utexas.edu/~daneel/photoalbum/K . . . k/index.html |
| [01:54:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Cardoe: jeez, these shipping guys really know how to party! |
| [01:54:00] | Led-Hed: | how would I delete a volume lable with e2label? |
| [01:54:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Why do you want to do that, Led-Hed? |
| [01:55:00] | Led-Hed: | because I changed the label from 1 drive to another and now both have the same label.. I need to delete one of them |
| [01:55:00] | overridex: | is there a hot key to slow video down or go frame-by-frame while watching a recording? |
| [01:56:00] | mewyn: | the table in question is filemarkup, i'm getting numbers that don't line up with either seconds or frames in the mark column, and i have no clue what the offset is reporting |
| [01:56:00] | briand: | hari_seldon99: hmm.. i thought that, maybe, the IR plug wasn't getting fully seated, maybe. I know on my machine, the socket is perilously close to the corner of the slot opening, which could cause the plug not to fully seat in the socket... but it looks like it seats okay on your system... |
| [01:56:00] | PaulWay[w]: | mewyn: do the contents look similar to the contents of the recordedmarkup table? |
| [01:57:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Led-Hed: Try just changing it to '' |
| [01:57:00] | hari_seldon99: | is there anything wrong with my connections? I have the coax cable where it's supposed to be, my DIN connector goes to my RF Modulator, and the rightmost port is where the IR receiver is |
| [01:57:00] | Led-Hed: | PaulWay[w], It then labels it '' |
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| [01:58:00] | mewyn: | i'm doing something on the odd side, to tell you the truth, and only running this on files that are put on the machine. i'm not going to be using mythtv in a pvr fashion, yet. |
| [01:58:00] | briand: | nope.. the connections are correct, as far as I can see... |
| [01:58:00] | mewyn: | i could be totally barking up the wrong tree |
| [01:58:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Led-Hed: That's different, isn't it? |
| [01:58:00] | briand: | lemme take a pic of mine so you can see it. |
| [01:58:00] | hari_seldon99: | briand: sounds good |
| [01:59:00] | Led-Hed: | PaulWay[w], well, I guess so, but I wanted to delete it. That may work for the time being... |
| [01:59:00] | PaulWay[w]: | mewyn: if you're not using mythtv as a pvr, you're missing out :-) |
| [01:59:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Led-Hed: I don't know if there is a way. |
| [02:01:00] | mewyn: | PaulWay[w]: currently, i have a hacked directivo (likely a bad thing in here ;) ) and i have a sync script that grabs all my shows off my tivo onto my server. from there, i'd like to make dvds of shows, but all automated |
| [02:01:00] | Nwallins: | i am getting a 401 unauthorized when wget attempts to download from zap2it (running mythfilldatabase) I have filled in the correct acct / pw |
| [02:01:00] | Led-Hed: | I just changed the LABEL= to /dev/md0 now everything is working. Thanks... |
| [02:01:00] | mewyn: | once either i move and can't get a directv signal, or directv goes and screws me, i'll switch to myth in a heartbeat |
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| [02:04:00] | Nwallins: | is there a way to verify what user/pass wget is using when it attempts to download? |
| [02:04:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Nwallins: ethereal? |
| [02:05:00] | PaulWay[w]: | mewyn: I'm sure no-one holds grudges here :-) |
| [02:05:00] | Led-Hed: | when I change the label for /dev/md0 it also changes the lable for /dev/sda1. Then fstab hoses durring boot saying that /boot is busy... |
| [02:05:00] | Nwallins: | no one else has had this problem? |
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| [02:08:00] | briand: | hari_seldon99: did you get my /msg's ?? |
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| [02:09:00] | hari_seldon99: | briand: Sorry, went to the loo for a bit |
| [02:09:00] | briand: | heh.. np |
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| [02:14:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Does anyone know the channel name for subversion user's questions? |
| [02:15:00] | mewyn: | could those mark numbers be GOP positions? |
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| [02:16:00] | PaulWay[w]: | mewyn: that sounds awfully familiar... I think recordedmarkup contains the same thing. |
| [02:16:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | mew, what marks? (I just came in) |
| [02:16:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Looking for commercials – autoflagged commercial start/stop points. |
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| [02:17:00] | mewyn: | PaulWay[w]: i wouldn't doubt it, looking at the code, it looks like recordedmarkup is for mythtv recorded movies, and filemarkup is for just regular files |
| [02:18:00] | mewyn: | Captain_Murdoch: marks column in those two tables in the myth db |
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| [02:19:00] | hi2: | sweet |
| [02:20:00] | Dark`-`: | like sugar |
| [02:20:00] | Nwallins_: | I figured out part of my problem. my zap2it account is not a 'datadirect' account. where can i find out about how to sign up for a datadirect acct? |
| [02:20:00] | hi2: | ya dm straight |
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| [02:20:00] | hi2: | nwallin: u from big easy? |
| [02:21:00] | Nwallins_: | for 6 years, anyway :) |
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| [02:21:00] | hi2: | think it's labs.zap2it.com |
| [02:21:00] | hi2: | where u goto school? |
| [02:21:00] | Nwallins_: | Tulane U |
| [02:22:00] | hi2: | u graduate yet? |
| [02:22:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | mewyn: recordedmarkup uses marks for various things, commercial start/end points, GOPs, and keyframes. |
| [02:22:00] | hi2: | that's where i went :( |
| [02:22:00] | hi2: | laboratory |
| [02:23:00] | Nwallins_: | hi2: yeah, in '03, CS did you transfer? |
| [02:23:00] | mewyn: | Captain_Murdoch: i don't suppose there's a doc on how these things work, is there? :) |
| [02:23:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | mewyn: I believe filemarkup is for storing the seektable info for MythVideo files (ie, recordings not stored in the "recorded" table) |
| [02:23:00] | hi2: | nah graduated in 03 i think so i prob know u laf |
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| [02:24:00] | hi2: | i was ce tho |
| [02:24:00] | mewyn: | Captain_Murdoch: hrm. what i'm trying to do is run mythcommflag --video <file> to get a commerical cutlist. im starting to get a feeling this isn't going to work for me |
| [02:24:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | no, there's some doxygen docs at http://www.cuymedia.net/doxygen-dev-docs/html/ that might help you some. |
| [02:25:00] | mewyn: | cool, thanks |
| [02:25:00] | Nwallins_: | no shit.. my name is Rick.. I knew a couple CE's |
| [02:25:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | mewyn, probably not, mythcommflag wasn't meant to flag programs that Myth didn't record. I don't think it will work to flag an outside program. |
| [02:26:00] | Nwallins_: | did you know Rookie err.. Mike |
| [02:26:00] | mewyn: | what's worse is i'm using files recorded on a tivo. they have annoying GOP sequences which is playing havoc with other applications i'm doing with it. i may just make a mythbox when i move. |
| [02:27:00] | Dark`-`: | does mythtv know which channels i have access to or not? |
| [02:27:00] | Dark`-`: | or do i have to program that in |
| [02:27:00] | Dark`-`: | digital cable |
| [02:27:00] | hi2: | ah cool rick don't think i knew u |
| [02:27:00] | Dark`-`: | nm dont bother answering that |
| [02:27:00] | Dark`-`: | im gunna read the manual lol |
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| [02:27:00] | hi2: | mike? i think i might have |
| [02:28:00] | Nwallins_: | his thesis originally involved recordings in the swamp or something |
| [02:28:00] | hi2: | hahaha |
| [02:28:00] | Nwallins_: | i think he had to start over |
| [02:28:00] | hi2: | wtf |
| [02:28:00] | Nwallins_: | know David Yuen? I think that was his name |
| [02:29:00] | Nwallins_: | lived right off of Audubon park |
| [02:29:00] | hi2: | ya i knew a david, i suck at last names tho |
| [02:29:00] | hi2: | di dyou know a jacob? |
| [02:29:00] | hi2: | are u a red head? |
| [02:29:00] | Nwallins_: | nope, the jacob i know wasn't an engy |
| [02:30:00] | hi2: | ah coo |
| [02:30:00] | hi2: | you use myth tv? |
| [02:30:00] | Nwallins_: | trying desperately |
| [02:30:00] | hi2: | ha |
| [02:30:00] | Nwallins_: | my pchdtv3000 keeps coming up 'busy' |
| [02:30:00] | Nwallins_: | and i'm just getting my datadirect acct |
| [02:31:00] | hi2: | ah cool |
| [02:31:00] | Nwallins_: | i get shitty reception anyway, but i'm about to move to the 14th floor downtown, so i figure i'll get great reception there |
| [02:31:00] | hi2: | pchdtv3000 ack ya that' prob a bitch to setup |
| [02:31:00] | Nwallins_: | using knoppmyth |
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| [02:31:00] | hi2: | i just setup with hd cable box and usb |
| [02:31:00] | Nwallins_: | it gets recognized fine. if i reboot it's usually fine, but if i re-run mythtv-setup it comes up busy |
| [02:32:00] | Nwallins_: | i don't have a capture card right now, only the 3k |
| [02:33:00] | JohnP789: | Is jumping forward 10 minutes in an MPEG2 NUV file likely to be CPU-bound for an old Celeron/400 backend? |
| [02:34:00] | hi2: | ya pchdtv requires some setup with knoppmyth |
| [02:34:00] | hi2: | doesn';t work outta the box |
| [02:34:00] | JohnP789: | Or, are the NUV files easy to seek around in? |
| [02:34:00] | hi2: | a few post about it |
| [02:34:00] | hi2: | http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t= . . . light=pchdtv |
| [02:34:00] | Nwallins_: | hi2: sweet thanks |
| [02:35:00] | Nwallins_: | hi2: what are you doing these days? |
| [02:35:00] | hi2: | work up in maryland |
| [02:36:00] | hi2: | defense research |
| [02:36:00] | hi2: | u? |
| [02:36:00] | Nwallins_: | hugh? |
| [02:36:00] | hi2: | what? nah jhuapl |
| [02:36:00] | Nwallins_: | Atlanta, QA Engineer for credit card processing |
| [02:36:00] | hi2: | quality assurance? |
| [02:36:00] | Nwallins_: | whoa, that's a mouthful ;) |
| [02:36:00] | hi2: | ahh cool |
| [02:36:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | JohnP789: Myth stores the seektable info in the database so seeking around should take the same time in Myth whether it's 10 seconds or 10 minutes. Only slowdown is your hard drive if it takes longer. |
| [02:37:00] | hi2: | ya there's tons of defense research around dc right now cause we keep getting into wars |
| [02:37:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | for nuppel-encoded files the seektable is also stored at the end of the file |
| [02:37:00] | Nwallins_: | my old Tulane roomie is in Baltimore, and another Tulane grad friend is in Salisbury |
| [02:37:00] | hi2: | ah nice |
| [02:37:00] | hi2: | is your old roomie working or in school |
| [02:38:00] | Nwallins_: | he's finishing up at Towson State |
| [02:38:00] | JohnP789: | Captain_Murdoch, OK, thanks. I'm getting 13.3 MB/s from hdparm -Tt on this hard disk, which is OK but not great. |
| [02:38:00] | hi2: | ah nice, towson girls are hot |
| [02:38:00] | JohnP789: | Captain_Murdoch, Hitting PgDn on a remove (fast) machine hangs that front end for a minute or two. |
| [02:38:00] | Nwallins_: | heh |
| [02:39:00] | hi2: | u see my private msg |
| [02:39:00] | Nwallins_: | no |
| [02:39:00] | Nwallins_: | resend |
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| [02:39:00] | hi2: | ? |
| [02:39:00] | Nwallins_: | negative |
| [02:39:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | JohnP789: you should use NFS if you're not, it's faster than streaming I believe. |
| [02:40:00] | JohnP789: | Captain_Murdoch, I'm using smbmount now. |
| [02:40:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | and if it hangs that long it sounds like it's not using the seektable. |
| [02:40:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | is it mounted on the same directory on the frontend and backend? |
| [02:41:00] | JohnP789: | Captain_Murdoch, No, the backend is running on the same machine as the big disk and the smb server. My frontend is on another machine with the rec directory mounted via smb. |
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| [02:42:00] | JohnP789: | The backend machine seems really slow---even browsing the web interface is pretty slow. |
| [02:42:00] | JohnP789: | However, it easily keeps up with recording. |
| [02:42:00] | JohnP789: | (I have the PVR-500MCE.) |
| [02:42:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | right, so is the recordings directory mounted in the same location on both the backend and frontend. (ie, are both /mnt/video or something or is one /mnt/video and the other /opt/video) |
| [02:43:00] | JohnP789: | One is /home/mythtv/myth/rec (backend) and one is /media/myth (frontend). |
| [02:43:00] | JohnP789: | Would that invalidate the seektable for the frontend? |
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| [02:44:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | if the directories don't match, it can't use the network filesystem, it ends up streaming the video. if you know how to use tcpdump, you can verify that sometime. |
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| [02:45:00] | JohnP789: | Ah, OK. So I need ot make both machines look at /mnt/video (or something)? |
| [02:45:00] | JohnP789: | s/ot/to/ |
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| [02:48:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah, I think that may help quite a bit. |
| [02:49:00] | JohnP789: | Can I cheat and make symlinks on the backend, or do I have to move 200+GB of recordings? Maybe that's not so bad with XFS, though. |
| [02:49:00] | JohnP789: | (I'll experiment, just wondering if you have any more tips.) |
| [02:49:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | as long as you're on the same filesystem, mv-ing a file is as fast as renaming one. |
| [02:50:00] | JohnP789: | Is there a conventional place for the recordings in a networked MythTV setup? /var/cache/video or something? |
| [02:51:00] | JohnP789: | You mentioned /mnt/video I guess. |
| [02:51:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | doesn't matter, Myth doesn't care where you put them. |
| [02:51:00] | JohnP789: | I'm recording a show right now, but I'll try out your suggestions when it's done. |
| [02:52:00] | JohnP789: | Thanks! |
| [02:52:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | /mnt/video was just an example. I use /usr2/video/mythtv/recordings for my production setup and /usr2/video/mythtv/dev for my dev boxes, both on NFS. Have some sample recordings for testing commercial flagging under /usr2/video/mythtv/samples and link then in under the dev directory for testing. |
| [02:52:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | just create a link on the frontend and you can try it now. |
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| [02:53:00] | JohnP789: | Ah, I'd have to reboot this machine. Frontend is installed in a fresh Ubuntu setup, but I haven't migrated my mail/IRC/etc. environment to that yet, so I'm in FC3 Land. |
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| [02:53:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | doesn't matter, the link can be either place or you can move files around, just make it so that the same directory name is used on both systems and it should be better for you. |
| [02:54:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | reboot for a link? "mkdir -p /home/mythtv/myth ; ln -s /media/myth /home/mythtv/myth/rec" |
| [02:55:00] | JohnP789: | The frontend isn't runnable unless I reboot this machine. |
| [02:55:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | ah. :) ok. |
| [02:55:00] | JohnP789: | I'm running a Fedora Core 3 install right now, but I installed the frontend on Ubuntu Breezy on the same box. |
| [02:55:00] | JohnP789: | (Confusing!) |
| [02:55:00] | JohnP789: | (and irritating) |
| [02:56:00] | JohnP789: | It takes almost 30 seconds just to show the Backend Status web page. |
| [02:56:00] | JohnP789: | The backend box I'm using is painfully slow. |
| [02:57:00] | JohnP789: | L2 cache must be nice. |
| [02:57:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | gotcha, I misread that line. if you run mythfrontend with the "-v network" option, you can see it streaming the video data from the backend. If you have your network share mounted properly you won't see all that streaming data, just communication as you move around menus, the guide, etc.. |
| [02:57:00] | JohnP789: | This is that Celeron/266 with no L2 cache. Zero. |
| [02:58:00] | JohnP789: | Good tip. I'm writing that down. |
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| [02:59:00] | JohnP789: | Do the web-interface forms look funny in your Firefox/Linux browser? |
| [03:00:00] | JohnP789: | The checkboxes don't line up with the labels, and the textbox entries are too low in their boxes. |
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| [03:01:00] | duende: | Help : I'm trying to run mythfrontend from a remote machine to the backend, it seems to work "alright", but the performance is lacking. In my frontend console output, it complains about not being able to find Xv support, how can enable Xv support? |
| [03:02:00] | JohnP789: | Oops, gotta run. Thanks again for the help! |
| [03:06:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | duende: are you trying to display mythfrontend over the network? |
| [03:07:00] | duende: | Captain_Murhdoch: no, i have mythfrontend installed on the client |
| [03:09:00] | hadees: | are you supposed to run mythfilldatabase from the frontend or the backend? |
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| [03:09:00] | hadees: | also has anyone else noticed alot of missing hours in the programing guide, if i do a --refresh-today it fixes it but i don't know how to fix it for like 2 days or 3 days ahead, also why is it happening |
| [03:10:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | Myth is not really usable without Xv support, the only reason video even displays without it is for testing and making screenshots. Sounds like something isn't configured right with your video card in X or else you're using and old unsupported card. Try googling for things like "xv support linux" and other words like the name of the video card you have. |
| [03:10:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | hadees: doesn't matter where it's run as long as it can talk to the database. |
| [03:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hadee's I run into the same thing on a bunch of channels |
| [03:12:00] | duende: | Captain_Murdoch: ok, i think i might have found an option missing from my xorg conf file. brb |
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| [03:12:00] | ** Captain_Murdoch says "wait, not that option, that reformats your drive!", but it's a second too late. ** | |
| [03:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | The problem is that myth doesn't refresh every days data everytime mythfilldatabase is run (which makes sense) and if zap2it doesn'[t have data for say Channel A 12 days from now, it wont get updated or filled in until it moves closer to "now" |
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| [03:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | If someone really cared they could look to add some sort of mode to try and fill in the "no data" sections only instead of trying to reload a full days worth of data |
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| [03:15:00] | duende: | Captain_Murdoch: yeah, that was it, missing option in xorg. thanks for your help |
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| [03:18:00] | wswanson: | Does anyone know how screensaver support is currently working. e.g. will screen saver be disabled when playing television, but enabled when OSD or menu is up (with no activity) ? |
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| [03:19:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | not sure about when the OSD is up, but the screensaver should be disabled when you start watching a video or LiveTV and be re-enabled when you exit the video/LiveTV. |
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| [03:21:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | I know I see "Disable DPMS" when I watch something and "Enable DPMS" when I stop and I think the screensaver stuff is done at the same time. |
| [03:25:00] | wswanson: | cool – that's what I thought and have experienced. I just switched my plasma from Sarge to Ubuntu. very happy with it |
| [03:26:00] | wswanson: | that is, happy with myth, not my plasma. ;) should have never bought that vpw450hd |
| [03:27:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | :) & :( |
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| [03:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Twiggy: the question was related to it, not asking how to turn it off |
| [03:30:00] | Twiggy: | Hey I'm not using a window manager, but after idling on the menu screen for a bit my screen will go blank until I push a button/key, is there an X setting to turn it off? |
| [03:30:00] | Twiggy: | GreyFoxx: Ahh |
| [03:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | I just have a line in my ,xinitrc to disable that sort of thing |
| [03:30:00] | Twiggy: | wm specific or does it work with X? |
| [03:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | "xset s off" |
| [03:30:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-21.html#ss21.4 |
| [03:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | in .xinitrc , and X setting |
| [03:30:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | and "xset -dpms" |
| [03:31:00] | mmurphy: | i just installed fc4 and all my xvids see to have syning issues in mythtvideo + mplayer ... anyone have any ideas? |
| [03:31:00] | mmurphy: | sycning |
| [03:31:00] | mmurphy: | the audio and video are off ... |
| [03:34:00] | Twiggy: | GreyFoxx: Worked, thanks for the help |
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| [03:54:00] | FITH: | Hmm, how can I tell which recording profile *group* my recordings are using? I have Default, one I created at install time (a year ago), and a transcodings one... Each of the first two have "Default", "LiveTV", "High Quality" and "Low Quality" settings |
| [03:54:00] | FITH: | I can pick which profile when I setup a recording, but I can't pick which profile group they are coming from... I'm guessing this is something obvious :) |
| [04:01:00] | Dagmar: | I think that's something you still have to set on a per-show basis |
| [04:09:00] | FITH: | hmm.. i figured out which group it's using, I just can't see where you select them... I'll poke around more :) |
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| [04:11:00] | NightMonkey: | ShockValue: Were you the person with the samba client mounting problem? |
| [04:12:00] | NightMonkey: | ShockValue: If so, I was just curious how that turned out. |
| [04:13:00] | NightMonkey: | ShockValue: Sorry, you were actually having a problem with files >2GB on a mounted windows share. You were gonna try to add the lfs mount option, but had other issues. |
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| [04:32:00] | pookSter: | 'gnight everyone |
| [04:32:00] | pookSter: | another fun night with the mythbox |
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| [04:43:00] | sw_bluntman_: | Lirc question. If there is a more appropriate place to ask, let me know. I have a Leadtek tv200xp. If I run irrecord or irw, it only seems to detect input from the included controller. Is this to be expected? |
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| [04:52:00] | PaulWay[w]: | sw_bluntman_: you've got another controller? |
| [04:53:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Have you included its definition in the /etc/lirc.conf (I think) file? |
| [04:54:00] | sw_bluntman_: | I have the infrared remote control that comes with the Leadtek, and another controller that came with my Directiv H10. There doesn't seem to be a definition for the H10. That is what I'm trying to create. I've also tried to input using several other infrared remotes. None of them seem to output anything to irw except the leadtek one |
| [04:55:00] | sw_bluntman_: | *directiv = DirecTv |
| [05:00:00] | Goose-Npa: | can you batch encode with avidemux? |
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| [05:02:00] | PaulWay[w]: | sw_bluntman_: I don't really know, I've yet to get irw working at all. |
| [05:02:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I have a serial IrDA connection on the motherboard, a plug-in thing on the AVerMedia card, and a USB dongle I got with the Twinhan card; none of them work successfully yet. |
| [05:03:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Like you, I need to find the #lirc-users channel... |
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| [05:04:00] | PaulWay[w]: | sw_bluntman_: there's a #lirc channel, but it's me and three other people there... |
| [05:04:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I don't hold much hope... |
| [05:04:00] | sw_bluntman_: | Yeah. I was looking for that one. I wonder if anyone has been successful in using the IrDA connectoin on the MB. I have one too, but don't know what parts to use to build the correct reciever. I am currently leaning toward building a serial reciever using rat shack parts |
| [05:04:00] | emes: | any plans to support transcoding to h.264? |
| [05:04:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I got one from a swap meet; you can't get them anywhere else, it seems. |
| [05:04:00] | sw_bluntman_: | Now it's you and four. Maybe there will be someone with answers and not just questions. |
| [05:05:00] | PaulWay[w]: | emes: I want to see transcoding to OGG first... :-) |
| [05:05:00] | PaulWay[w]: | If only the freenode channel search options were working... |
| [05:06:00] | sw_bluntman_: | Just reposted my q in that channel |
| [05:06:00] | sw_bluntman_: | we'll see, I guess |
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| [05:09:00] | banyan: | what is the recommended repository for grabbing mythtv rpms, without borking one's packages? |
| [05:13:00] | PaulWay[w]: | banyan: what distro? FC4? |
| [05:13:00] | PaulWay[w]: | livna or atrpms, from memory. |
| [05:13:00] | banyan: | ya! |
| [05:14:00] | banyan: | Pretty sure livna doesn't have mpth. |
| [05:14:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I just use everything I can get my hands on. |
| [05:14:00] | banyan: | myth. |
| [05:14:00] | PaulWay[w]: | livna, freshrpms, fedora-extras, dag, dries, atrpms, ... |
| [05:14:00] | banyan: | I gave my computer a migraine by accidentally updating from atrpms after doing an fc3 to fc4 upgrade. |
| [05:15:00] | banyan: | I wanna avoid atrpms for the moment if possible. |
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| [05:15:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Have a look at http://www.wilsonet.com/mythtv – Jared has a RPM with all the repos in. |
| [05:15:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Just install that and then do 'yum install mythtv-suite' |
| [05:15:00] | PaulWay[w]: | What's wrong with atrpms? |
| [05:16:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I learnt the hard way to not use the development and testing repos... |
| [05:16:00] | banyan: | I had so many nonstandard packages that the fc4 upgrade pretty much just left me at fc3 packagewise. |
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| [05:25:00] | Nwallins_: | i have arrival/exit notifications turned off, but I bet it was. i couldn't figure out why firefox was acting all choppy (chatzilla user) |
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| [05:43:00] | Nwallins: | Cardoe: that's ill, any recourse? |
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| [05:45:00] | klax3: | I'm having problems connecting to my Master mythtv server from the other comptuers on the network, can anyone help? |
| [05:46:00] | klax3: | I'm using the Mac OS X 10.4 frontend |
| [05:46:00] | Dagmar: | Does your MySQL permissions allow the frontend to connect to it? |
| [05:46:00] | Dagmar: | (I'm not 100% sure but I think the frontend talks to the DB server directly) |
| [05:46:00] | klax3: | mythtv version 0.18.1 |
| [05:46:00] | klax3: | i think so |
| [05:46:00] | Dagmar: | Ah... that would be something to check on then |
| [05:46:00] | klax3: | yea I'm pretty sure i did hold let me me see what I did |
| [05:46:00] | Dagmar: | MySQL permissions are a little odd |
| [05:47:00] | Dagmar: | I was a little startled to see that you can actually restrict access to tables for a given user differently depending on where they connect from |
| [05:48:00] | klax3: | mysql> grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"%" identified by "mythtv"; |
| [05:48:00] | klax3: | mysql> grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"%" identified by "mythtv"; |
| [05:48:00] | klax3: | I did a 'grant allow all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"%" identified by "mythtv"' |
| [05:48:00] | Dagmar: | So if like, your permissions allow connecting from localhost and you don't have any other rights given, then you can't connect to it from elsewhere |
| [05:48:00] | klax3: | while I logged into the dapabase |
| [05:48:00] | Dagmar: | Is that on Windows? |
| [05:48:00] | klax3: | no Gentoo |
| [05:48:00] | Dagmar: | I got the impression from the docs that Unix doesn't recognize the % construct |
| [05:48:00] | klax3: | my user is root for the database, I don't have a mythtv user |
| [05:49:00] | klax3: | ahhhhh should I replace the % with the IP of my server? |
| [05:49:00] | Dagmar: | Ugh. You probably shouldn't make the mythtv user the root database user |
| [05:49:00] | klax3: | yea I knew it |
| [05:49:00] | Dagmar: | Yeah, try replacing the % with the hosts you're gonna connect from |
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| [05:50:00] | klax3: | what do you mean? the IP addresses? shoudl I use the "mythtv@192.168.1.%" thing |
| [05:50:00] | klax3: | well considering the % doesnt work, what should i use to replace it |
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| [05:51:00] | Dagmar: | Well, you'll almost certainly want one for 127.0.0.1 (localhost) |
| [05:51:00] | Dagmar: | I'm rebooting mine now, if I can remember the command to show the tables I'll post what's in mine |
| [05:52:00] | klax3: | ok awesome, thanks a lot man |
| [05:52:00] | klax3: | I don't even want to use the TV functionality, I'm setting the server up as an on demand movie system throughout my house with my other roomates |
| [05:53:00] | Dagmar: | Not a bad idea actually |
| [05:53:00] | klax3: | yea, I wish I had cat5 running throughout the house |
| [05:53:00] | klax3: | the server is connected to ethernet though |
| [05:53:00] | Dagmar: | ...although you could do that with a Samba share, I don't think you can play DVDs over a samba share without some really interesting hacker |
| [05:53:00] | Dagmar: | s/hacker/hackery |
| [05:54:00] | klax3: | haha VLC would do that nice |
| [05:54:00] | Dagmar: | klax3: Cat5 cable is relatively cheap, if you already have the crimper |
| [05:54:00] | klax3: | yea I'm going to invest in one soon |
| [05:54:00] | Dagmar: | Places like Home Depot sell it in 1000ft spools for about $35 |
| [05:54:00] | klax3: | damn |
| [05:54:00] | Dagmar: | Yeah, considering you can spend that much at CompUSA for two 25ft cables. |
| [05:55:00] | klax3: | yea seriously |
| [05:55:00] | Dagmar: | It does get a little irritating after a while fiddling with all the little tiny wires when you're doing say, nine or ten cables at a time |
| [05:56:00] | klax3: | yeaa i can see, do you know how to add users in mysql? |
| [05:56:00] | Dagmar: | Yep. According to http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.2 you need to grant access to the remote systems |
| [05:57:00] | Dagmar: | One moment, I'm still digging. I suck with mysql and had to look this up yesterday so I know I can find it again |
| [05:57:00] | klax3: | haha ok thanks a lot i appreciate it |
| [05:58:00] | Dagmar: | Hmm... according to the HOWTO, grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"%" identified by "mythtv"; shoudl have worked as a "no security" option. Lemme check the link tot he mysql site |
| [05:58:00] | klax3: | yea I tried that |
| [05:59:00] | Dagmar: | AH, here's the thing that showed me how to look at what I had se tup |
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| [06:00:00] | klax3: | whaaaaaat, im getting this now |
| [06:00:00] | klax3: | 2005-10–19 00:03:57.945 Enabled verbose msgs : important general |
| [06:00:00] | klax3: | QServerSocket: failed to bind or listen to the socket |
| [06:00:00] | klax3: | Failed to bind port: 6543 |
| [06:01:00] | klax3: | nevermind I had two instances of mythbackend running, doh |
| [06:02:00] | Dagmar: | Ouch |
| [06:03:00] | Dagmar: | I am definitely going to have to keep reading up on mysql |
| [06:03:00] | Dagmar: | show grants; doesn't mention the mythtv account, and I nuked the anon account, yet it still all works |
| [06:04:00] | Dagmar: | select host, user from mysql.user; shows me the account just fine... and I even have a % in there. |
| [06:05:00] | klax3: | hmmm |
| [06:05:00] | Dagmar: | I may have to chalk up thinking poorly of the % construct to the fact that most of my setup was done in two nearly back-to-back 14 hour hacking sessions |
| [06:05:00] | Dagmar: | I had some issues (it wouldn't play a damn thing) with the video browser so I blew away the system again and built every little piece from scratch |
| [06:06:00] | klax3: | damn |
| [06:06:00] | klax3: | i hope i dont haev to do that |
| [06:06:00] | klax3: | i connect fine from the local machine |
| [06:07:00] | klax3: | with the front end |
| [06:07:00] | klax3: | over an SSH tunnel |
| [06:07:00] | klax3: | using Apple's X11, and X forwarding on the myth server |
| [06:07:00] | Dagmar: | You're a braver man than I. |
| [06:07:00] | Dagmar: | I won't even try to tunnel something that might carry a video feed. |
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| [06:07:00] | klax3: | haha i'm not trying to carry video |
| [06:08:00] | klax3: | just get to the interface and test it out |
| [06:09:00] | Dagmar: | NOW I know where I got hte idea about %. The http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/default-privileges.html page lists the commands using the % construct in the "For Windows" instructions and italicized hostname for the "For Unix" instructions |
| [06:10:00] | klax3: | ahhhhhhh so the % doesn't work |
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| [06:14:00] | Dagmar: | I'm still unsure about that. |
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| [06:14:00] | Dagmar: | I'm definitely running it on Linux and even though I didn't make any rules using it, I still keep seeing % show it's face |
| [06:14:00] | Dagmar: | Darn them and their vague documentation |
| [06:14:00] | klax3: | should I try restricting it to the IP of the comptuer ill try connecting to |
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| [06:15:00] | klax3: | haha damn |
| [06:15:00] | Dagmar: | If you're behing a firewall, and the mythtv user isn't *root* then I'd just open it to every host. |
| [06:15:00] | klax3: | the mythtv user is root |
| [06:15:00] | Dagmar: | In the database? |
| [06:15:00] | klax3: | yea |
| [06:16:00] | klax3: | how do you make another user I want to make a mythtv user |
| [06:16:00] | Dagmar: | THe little stub script that comes with the mythtv source doesn't set it up like that. It makes a mythtv user |
| [06:16:00] | klax3: | i built it from portage |
| [06:16:00] | klax3: | in gentoo |
| [06:16:00] | klax3: | not from sources and the command line |
| [06:17:00] | Dagmar: | Oh. that's right in the howto then |
| [06:17:00] | klax3: | okay, thanks ill check that out |
| [06:17:00] | Dagmar: | See if this file exists and then try `mysql < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql` |
| [06:17:00] | Dagmar: | It basically pipes the commands right into the client. |
| [06:18:00] | klax3: | that file does exist |
| [06:18:00] | Dagmar: | I had to change the command to mysql -u root -p because I have a password set on the root account |
| [06:18:00] | klax3: | yea thats how I get into mysql |
| [06:18:00] | Dagmar: | Whatever password the mythtv account might have is entirely it's call. I know I didn't set one |
| [06:19:00] | Dagmar: | Slackware's build of mysql is a little gnomic, but it seems quite happy using the my-tiny configuration file that Pat supplies |
| [06:19:00] | klax3: | i dont have a mythtv user |
| [06:19:00] | Dagmar: | You should after you've run that command... |
| [06:20:00] | klax3: | ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO) |
| [06:21:00] | Dagmar: | add the -p to the mysql command and it (should) will ask for the password |
| [06:21:00] | klax3: | k |
| [06:22:00] | klax3: | what password shoudl I put in? |
| [06:22:00] | Dagmar: | Or you can just run mysql manuall;y and the copy and paste the contents of the file from another xterm |
| [06:22:00] | Dagmar: | klax3: Umm... the password you set on the mysql root account. |
| [06:22:00] | klax3: | okay, didnt know if I was setting a new password |
| [06:22:00] | Dagmar: | Note, it's confusing at first, but the mysql root account is *not* the same as the system root acount |
| [06:22:00] | klax3: | ahhh |
| [06:22:00] | klax3: | and I got a message stating it cant create a database because I already ahve one |
| [06:22:00] | klax3: | which I do |
| [06:22:00] | Dagmar: | That's good |
| [06:23:00] | Dagmar: | select host, user from mysql.user; will show you what accounts have been created |
| [06:24:00] | Dagmar: | I've got a '%' in the output of that over here staring me right in the face, so I don't know what the deal is with the mysql docs |
| [06:24:00] | Cardoe: | Nwallins_: contacting FedEx |
| [06:24:00] | klax3: | ahhhhh okay I see it |
| [06:24:00] | Dagmar: | It's kinda pissing me off that I don't know mysql well enough already to figure this out easily. Their docs could really use some elaboration on this subject. |
| [06:24:00] | Dagmar: | I <3 security so this is irksome |
| [06:24:00] | klax3: | hahaha yea |
| [06:24:00] | klax3: | +---------------+--------+ |
| [06:24:00] | klax3: | | host | user | |
| [06:24:00] | klax3: | +---------------+--------+ |
| [06:24:00] | klax3: | | % | mythtv | |
| [06:24:00] | klax3: | | % | root | |
| [06:24:00] | klax3: | | 192.168.1.% | mythtv | |
| [06:24:00] | klax3: | | 192.168.1.101 | root | |
| [06:25:00] | klax3: | | localhost | | |
| [06:25:00] | klax3: | | localhost | mythtv | |
| [06:25:00] | Dagmar: | Yep. You've got a mythtv account in there alright |
| [06:25:00] | klax3: | | localhost | root | |
| [06:25:00] | klax3: | | server | | |
| [06:25:00] | klax3: | | server | root | |
| [06:25:00] | fryfrog: | sop |
| [06:25:00] | fryfrog: | stop |
| [06:25:00] | klax3: | +---------------+--------+ |
| [06:25:00] | Dagmar: | User has some blank fields tho. That's not good. |
| [06:25:00] | fryfrog: | we don't need you to spam channel |
| [06:25:00] | fryfrog: | use pastebin.com |
| [06:25:00] | Dagmar: | Rule of thumb: Anyhthing over three lines should go to pastebin.com |
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| [06:25:00] | klax3: | ok |
| [06:25:00] | Dagmar: | pastebin should probably be recieving some grant money, IMHO |
| [06:26:00] | _Nero_: | Dagmar- only if people would use it.. ;) |
| [06:26:00] | Dagmar: | _Nero_: Man we use the heck out of it for #Droplinie |
| [06:26:00] | klax3: | if I knew about it I wouldve used it |
| [06:26:00] | Dagmar: | er #Dropline |
| [06:27:00] | banyan: | so here's a weird thing I can't explain. Recently did a bunch of upgrades, now my pvr350 plays back at a lower volume than it used to do. Could be because the audio got encoded at a lower volume, could be because the card's decoding it at a lower volume. Any ideas? |
| [06:27:00] | ** _Nero_ thinks people take him too seriously.. ;) ** | |
| [06:27:00] | fryfrog: | now ya do, and as gi joe said "knowing is half the battle!" |
| [06:27:00] | Dagmar: | I just reupped my paypal account, maybe they have donate button |
| [06:27:00] | klax3: | alright so where should I go from here? |
| [06:27:00] | banyan: | That virtual money's burning a virtual hole in your virtual pocket? |
| [06:27:00] | Dagmar: | banyan: I think you probably nailed it. I just set all the volume levels to 90% and try not to think about compression loss |
| [06:28:00] | banyan: | um, probably nailed whatnow? |
| [06:28:00] | Dagmar: | banyan: Nah, I just don't like the thought of things I use so regularly going away for want of a few dollars. |
| [06:28:00] | Dagmar: | There was a time when I would have been completely lost without freshmeat.net |
| [06:28:00] | Dagmar: | ...just one example. |
| [06:28:00] | Dagmar: | Now I've just got a massive set of build scripts that has all the URLs for just about everything built into it |
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| [06:30:00] | klax3: | brb my Mythfrontend for OS X is crashing |
| [06:30:00] | Dagmar: | Odd issue: How the heck do you exit mythbrowser? |
| [06:30:00] | klax3: | er not starting |
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| [06:32:00] | Dagmar: | Ugh I am sucking at XML still, too. Frontend went blooey on my attempt at a new theme. Heh |
| [06:34:00] | Dagmar: | Hopefully after all the pounding on the codecs I did last night the new build of xine/gxine will start being able to play stuff again |
| [06:35:00] | Dagmar: | At least all the little components that have their own test harnesses pass |
| [06:37:00] | Dagmar: | I have got to get the OSD theme to change it's font |
| [06:38:00] | Dagmar: | I don't much care for the baselines and headlines not lining up properly. |
| [06:38:00] | Dagmar: | ...and Arial sux0rs |
| [06:42:00] | Chutt: | make sure you're using 100x100dpi when you do theme designing |
| [06:42:00] | Dagmar: | Oh I just plain old had unclosed objects. |
| [06:42:00] | Dagmar: | I opened it in Mozilla and it made that pretty clear to me |
| [06:43:00] | Chutt: | no, no, for fonts to line up properly |
| [06:44:00] | Chutt: | else it'll look different for everyone else |
| [06:44:00] | Dagmar: | Well, I didn't change it from 100x100 but Freetype might be taking a bad hint from the xserver |
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| [06:46:00] | Dark`-`: | hello :) |
| [06:46:00] | Dagmar: | ...and Arial sux0rz. I'm gonna replace it with something less annoying (bitstream vera sans) if I can sort it out |
| [06:46:00] | Dark`-`: | i almost got everything set up except one question, any of you use the WinTV-Go Plus IR Blaster? |
| [06:47:00] | Dark`-`: | it came with the card and plugs into a port on the PCI card, but i have no idea how to get that thing working |
| [06:47:00] | Dark`-`: | i have lirc |
| [06:47:00] | Dark`-`: | but i dunno if it can recognize this blaster since its not serial or usb |
| [06:57:00] | Dark`-`: | how do u get lirc-i2c module? |
| [06:58:00] | Dark`-`: | i dont see any option to get that in the kernel config and doesn't seem to be there after emerging lirc on gentoo |
| [07:00:00] | Cardoe: | Dark`-`: echo "LIRC_OPTS='--with-driver=hauppauge'" >> /etc/make.conf |
| [07:00:00] | Cardoe: | Dark`-`: emerge lirc |
| [07:00:00] | Dark`-`: | ok |
| [07:00:00] | Dark`-`: | thank you very much :) |
| [07:00:00] | Cardoe: | Dark`-`: need to read. |
| [07:01:00] | Cardoe: | it's documented in the ebuild |
| [07:01:00] | Cardoe: | the ebuild prints out that info when you start to emerge |
| [07:01:00] | Dark`-`: | been reading their howto setup myth |
| [07:01:00] | Cardoe: | the MythTV docs have that. |
| [07:01:00] | Dark`-`: | and he kinda went half ass right here |
| [07:01:00] | Cardoe: | the WIKI page has that |
| [07:01:00] | Cardoe: | and my little broken doc has that |
| [07:01:00] | Dagmar: | Cardoe: There's a wiki for myth? |
| [07:01:00] | Cardoe: | Myth has their own wiki yes. |
| [07:01:00] | Dagmar: | Yay. |
| [07:02:00] | Cardoe: | but I was refering to www.gentoo-wiki.com (not official Gentoo) |
| [07:02:00] | Dagmar: | I will have to dig it up and see if they've got a little warning about the expected failure of mythfilldatabase |
| [07:02:00] | Dark`-`: | yea Cardoe has a howto on there |
| [07:02:00] | Dagmar: | That threw me for a loop |
| [07:02:00] | Cardoe: | That content is not mine. |
| [07:02:00] | Cardoe: | Some of it is. |
| [07:02:00] | Dark`-`: | worked perfectly until now, i'd go to all the manuals but i wanna sleep hehe, im sure ill be helping other people in here soon enough |
| [07:02:00] | Cardoe: | I'm ripping the crap out as we speak |
| [07:03:00] | Dark`-`: | well up until then i havent had a prob |
| [07:03:00] | Dark`-`: | and prob wont have any other |
| [07:03:00] | Cardoe: | ok |
| [07:03:00] | Dagmar: | You might want to mention the thing that the HOWTO doesn't then. |
| [07:04:00] | Cardoe: | ? |
| [07:04:00] | Cardoe: | Dagmar: ? |
| [07:04:00] | Dark`-`: | its just so u compile the module for lirc-i2c |
| [07:04:00] | Dagmar: | If you're following the howto to the letter (like I was) the first time it tells you to run mythfillbackend, it's going to visibly fail at the end because you've not been told to start the backend yet |
| [07:04:00] | Dark`-`: | thats the only thing i was missing |
| [07:04:00] | Cardoe: | Dagmar: the whole thing is being ripped apart right now |
| [07:04:00] | Dark`-`: | oh well im not following to the letter i guess lol, skipped a few parts here and there like that |
| [07:04:00] | Cardoe: | because everytime I edited it |
| [07:05:00] | Dagmar: | It's expected and fine that it will fail like that, but unless you know it's okay, seeing the error message will send you on a big double-checking spree |
| [07:05:00] | Cardoe: | morons would edit it |
| [07:05:00] | Dark`-`: | the important stuff is there though |
| [07:05:00] | Dark`-`: | lol |
| [07:05:00] | Cardoe: | yeah I've fixed bits and pieces already |
| [07:05:00] | Cardoe: | just so it's not useless while I rewrite it |
| [07:06:00] | Dark`-`: | well if i find anything else noteworthy ill let ya know |
| [07:06:00] | Dark`-`: | and ill find the answer first hopefully ;) |
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| [07:16:00] | ShockValue: | seen nightmonkey |
| [07:16:00] | ShockValue: | \seen nightmonkey |
| [07:16:00] | ShockValue: | how does this damn thing work? :) |
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| [07:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | I didn't think there was a bot in here tracking that sort of thing |
| [07:28:00] | Dark`-`: | lol strange, i walked right over that line in the howto |
| [07:28:00] | Dark`-`: | unless u just added it or something |
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| [07:31:00] | ShockValue: | i just signed up for Netflix.. i have a feeling my harddrive space is gonna go away real quick |
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| [07:40:00] | xanderp: | is anyone here using mythstream? |
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| [07:49:00] | fryfrog: | netflix rar! |
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| [07:51:00] | banyan: | what is mythstream? is that streaming media support? |
| [07:52:00] | banyan: | that'd be cool! |
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| [08:09:00] | PaulWay[w]: | banyan: I think it's the ability to stream programs from your mythtv machine through a web browser. |
| [08:10:00] | PaulWay[w]: | What I want to see is something that allows you to treat a multicast as a channel. |
| [08:11:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Here in Canberra we have an ISP that's using fibre to distribute VDSL to customers, including multicast streams of all the public TV channels (and some more). It'd be great to be able to get MythTV to record from these. |
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| [08:14:00] | NightMonkey: | ShockValue: I'm back. |
| [08:14:00] | NightMonkey: | For a bit. |
| [08:14:00] | NightMonkey: | !seen ShockValue |
| [08:14:00] | NightMonkey: | This channel doesn't have a good bot... |
| [08:14:00] | NightMonkey: | ;) |
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| [08:16:00] | Chipdancer: | hi guys, how's the day? |
| [08:17:00] | Agrajag-: | not bad |
| [08:18:00] | Chipdancer: | just trying to remember who it was that got MPEG2-MPEG2 transcoding working... |
| [08:19:00] | Chipdancer: | I'm about ready to give it a go and wondered if it worked correclty once the db changes were made.. (can't seem to find it in my logs though) |
| [08:20:00] | Agrajag-: | try http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/ :P |
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| [08:24:00] | Chipdancer: | thanks |
| [08:25:00] | Chipdancer: | it's this one http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/index.php?date=2005-10-06 |
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| [09:48:00] | Krazylegz: | Anyone awake? |
| [09:49:00] | Chipdancer: | yup |
| [09:49:00] | Krazylegz: | Woo hoo!! |
| [09:50:00] | Chipdancer: | are you surprised? |
| [09:50:00] | Krazylegz: | Not really. |
| [09:50:00] | ** Chipdancer wonders again how to properly do mpeg2-mpeg2 ad removal and reassembly ** | |
| [09:51:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh, you want to add a cutlist and then transcode back to MPEG2? |
| [09:51:00] | jnc: | is there some manner to set the threshold for blank frame detection? |
| [09:51:00] | Chipdancer: | yep, basically without actually reencoding.. just cutting |
| [09:51:00] | jnc: | i've got a bad capture input and it's not necessarily a full black frame, some parts are a little grey |
| [09:52:00] | Krazylegz: | Chipdancer: You probably want to do this from Myth, don't you. |
| [09:52:00] | Chipdancer: | by preference, however, if there's no option.. then I'm happy to use command line.. (I'm a unix geek.. as all myth users should be) |
| [09:53:00] | Krazylegz: | Hmm, the only options I see in the menu are MPEG4 and RTJPEG. |
| [09:54:00] | Chipdancer: | yes... |
| [09:55:00] | Chipdancer: | I found a hack, to do it from myth.. but haven't tested it and am not sure whether I can trust it or not... (update recordingprofiles set videocodec = "MPEG-2" where name = "MPEG2";) |
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| [10:00:00] | Krazylegz: | Interesting. |
| [10:01:00] | Krazylegz: | It seems I must retire. |
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| [10:42:00] | eiggirC: | YAY! I got mythfrontend working directly on the backend machine! so my fault appears to be getting the mysql server to listen to the network |
| [10:42:00] | laga: | eiggirC: hehe. check ps ax | grep mysql |
| [10:43:00] | laga: | maybe it's running with --skip-networking |
| [10:43:00] | eiggirC: | laga: yep – its running – the only skip param is --skip-locking |
| [10:43:00] | eiggirC: | mysqld is listening on port 3306, but telnet mythbox 3306 gives Trying 10.28.1.4... |
| [10:44:00] | eiggirC: | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
| [10:45:00] | laga: | eiggirC: ok, what distro? |
| [10:46:00] | Smurf2: | what version of mysql are you using the newer version disables external networking because of the root accounthaving no password |
| [10:46:00] | eiggirC: | laga: debian, unstable. |
| [10:46:00] | eiggirC: | mysql Ver 14.7 Distrib 4.1.14, for pc-linux-gnu (i486) using readline 5.0 |
| [10:47:00] | eiggirC: | I feel that mysql is right, but something else is stopping it... checking out hosts.deny now |
| [10:47:00] | laga: | eiggirC: check /etc/mysql/my.cnf for bind-addres |
| [10:47:00] | Smurf2: | yeah I think that is what you need to do sorry I can't remember the file the |
| [10:47:00] | Smurf2: | though |
| [10:47:00] | Smurf2: | it's in something like /etc/conf.d or something like that |
| [10:48:00] | eiggirC: | bind-address = 127.0.0.1 10.28.1.4 |
| [10:48:00] | eiggirC: | I bet that needs a comma or something |
| [10:48:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [10:49:00] | laga: | try removing the 127.0.0.1 one |
| [10:49:00] | eiggirC: | doing it now.... |
| [10:49:00] | eiggirC: | *dance* |
| [10:49:00] | eiggirC: | laga++ you rock dude :) |
| [10:49:00] | eiggirC: | Smurf2 you too :) |
| [10:49:00] | laga: | eiggirC: ;) |
| [10:50:00] | eiggirC: | I did have to put old_passwords = 1 |
| [10:50:00] | eiggirC: | in as well, or downgrde to mysql 4.0.x (which was too hard) |
| [10:50:00] | laga: | eiggirC: regarding the old_passwords – you could just change the passwords. it's documented somewhere on the mysql website |
| [10:51:00] | eiggirC: | laga: yeah – but I'll likely blow this whole machine away if I can.... its a P3 866 with a crap frame grabber. |
| [10:51:00] | eiggirC: | laga: this is all testing to see how it goes |
| [10:51:00] | laga: | eiggirC: hehe. i used to have a athlon 700 with a frame grabber. it totally sucked :) |
| [10:52:00] | eiggirC: | 480x480 is too much for this machine. What truely sucks is that its the best box I have. |
| [10:52:00] | laga: | eiggirC: ouch. did you try rtjpeg? |
| [10:52:00] | eiggirC: | the next one down is a celeron 1200 and a P3 700 |
| [10:52:00] | eiggirC: | laga: yeah thats what its on now |
| [10:52:00] | eiggirC: | should the record size be a square? |
| [10:53:00] | eiggirC: | or is 320x240 okay? |
| [10:53:00] | laga: | square? uh, no, not necessarily. i record in 640x480 or 720x576, iirc |
| [10:53:00] | laga: | 320x240 is fine as well, i think |
| [10:53:00] | eiggirC: | 120x120 :\ |
| [10:53:00] | laga: | but mind you, it's sometimes possible that your capture card won't accept some resolutions |
| [10:54:00] | eiggirC: | point. |
| [10:56:00] | laga: | eiggirC: hey, i believe you could get a nice mythtv machine for $300-$400, probably. nforce 2 board with a nice cheap duron (sempron) or an athlon xp, 256–512mb ddr-ram and a pvr 150 or something. |
| [10:56:00] | laga: | but don't hold me responsible if it doesn't work, i'Ve never used such a setup before |
| [10:57:00] | eiggirC: | laga: welcome to the world of "Not an american" I paid $232 for a PVR-150 alone |
| [10:58:00] | eiggirC: | thats New Zealand dollars |
| [10:58:00] | eiggirC: | which is about $160-$170 USD |
| [10:58:00] | laga: | ouch that sucks |
| [10:58:00] | eiggirC: | yeah well... gotta be something wrong with everywhere :) |
| [10:58:00] | laga: | eiggirC: sorry, i thought you were located in the USA. many mythtv users are :) |
| [10:59:00] | laga: | eiggirC: but hey, your p3 866 should work fine with your pvr 150. |
| [10:59:00] | eiggirC: | I'd be $1000 NZ or ~$700 US for a box here |
| [10:59:00] | laga: | ouch |
| [10:59:00] | eiggirC: | yeah it would, but the BLOODY WIFE nicked it |
| [10:59:00] | eiggirC: | :) |
| [10:59:00] | laga: | i paid like 300–400 euro for mine |
| [10:59:00] | eiggirC: | oops – sorry for calling you a merkin :) |
| [10:59:00] | laga: | eiggirC: hehe. well, will she be able to tell the difference if you gave her the frame grabber? |
| [11:00:00] | eiggirC: | laga: yeah she would know... I married a geekchick |
| [11:00:00] | laga: | eiggirC: darn, that sucks. well, if she's a geek she will understand your needs. |
| [11:00:00] | eiggirC: | how accurate is the clock on your local TV schedules? |
| [11:00:00] | eiggirC: | heheheh – wink |
| [11:01:00] | laga: | you can call me a kraut instead, if you want to ;)) |
| [11:01:00] | laga: | eiggirC: not very accurate, unfortunately. but i record 5 extra minutes before and after every show so it works |
| [11:02:00] | eiggirC: | fair enough |
| [11:02:00] | eiggirC: | laga: as long as you're not a sour kraut. |
| [11:02:00] | eiggirC: | :) |
| [11:02:00] | laga: | eiggirC: no,not a grumpy german. |
| [11:03:00] | laga: | (the GF tends to pull that joke on me) |
| [11:03:00] | eiggirC: | heh |
| [11:03:00] | eiggirC: | hey – how well does commercial flagging work? |
| [11:04:00] | eiggirC: | and which detection method works best? |
| [11:04:00] | laga: | it works quite nicely for me. it's not accurate all the time – i set it to warn me before a commercial and then i just hit my "skip commercials" button. i usually ahve to watch a few seconds of the previews then but it doesn't bother me much |
| [11:05:00] | laga: | well, i use "all". sounds umm complete ;) |
| [11:05:00] | diamon: | Some shows work perfectly for me, while others don't. Most work very nicely for commercial skipping. |
| [11:05:00] | eiggirC: | fair enough |
| [11:06:00] | eiggirC: | mythweather needs to be installed on the front-end box right? |
| [11:06:00] | laga: | eiggirC: all plugins run on the frontend |
| [11:06:00] | eiggirC: | gotcha – thanks |
| [11:06:00] | eiggirC: | I know I'm asking some dumb questions here |
| [11:07:00] | laga: | eiggirC: just watch out for beirdo and his trout |
| [11:08:00] | eiggirC: | I have a fishing licence and plenty of chips... I can deal with trout :) |
| [11:08:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [11:08:00] | laga: | .oO(..round 1: fight!...) |
| [11:10:00] | eiggirC: | and at the same time I'm setting up an old tape changer on my main box |
| [11:10:00] | laga: | for backup purposes? |
| [11:10:00] | eiggirC: | four x 2–5Gb tapes |
| [11:10:00] | eiggirC: | yeah |
| [11:10:00] | laga: | nice |
| [11:10:00] | laga: | i've got an old tape drive lying around somewhere, i really should start using it |
| [11:10:00] | eiggirC: | tapes are too fogging expensive really |
| [11:10:00] | eiggirC: | CDR is better |
| [11:11:00] | eiggirC: | but I have ~8 Gb of shit |
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| [11:11:00] | eiggirC: | and no decent backups |
| [11:11:00] | laga: | i've got a lot of spare time so i hope to finish some mythtv-related projects instead of partying all the time ;) |
| [11:11:00] | laga: | hehe |
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| [11:11:00] | laga: | eiggirC: i'm too lazy for CD-R backups |
| [11:11:00] | eiggirC: | seriously – its embarrassing to admit that my last full decent backup of important shit was Jan 2004 |
| [11:12:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [11:12:00] | laga: | my backups consist of sftp'ing some stuff on different boxes. |
| [11:12:00] | laga: | i believe i could play with rsync to automate it |
| [11:13:00] | eiggirC: | I do that at work, but at home I've not got enough places... and in NZ internet access costs a fair bit, so I can't just sync with a machine at work. |
| [11:13:00] | eiggirC: | we have data caps |
| [11:14:00] | laga: | data caps? what's that? |
| [11:14:00] | eiggirC: | on my plan I can download up to 10 Gb a calendar month |
| [11:14:00] | laga: | sorry i'm not all too familar with all this spiffy professional stuff |
| [11:14:00] | eiggirC: | any more, and I pay 20c per Mb over that |
| [11:14:00] | eiggirC: | so 11 Gb would cost me an additional $200 NZ for going over cap |
| [11:15:00] | laga: | ouch that's a lot. |
| [11:15:00] | laga: | so cap -> capacity? |
| [11:15:00] | eiggirC: | yeah – one of the downsides of living on a couple islands with very limited net connections |
| [11:16:00] | eiggirC: | not quite – cap means limit, or upper amount |
| [11:16:00] | eiggirC: | if something is capped at X then it shouldn't go past that value |
| [11:16:00] | laga: | good, thanks |
| [11:16:00] | eiggirC: | you might "cap" a pipe end to stop water coming out |
| [11:16:00] | eiggirC: | its a bit slangy though |
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| [11:17:00] | laga: | i'Ve been able to get cable internet since a month or so, but i'm not sure. it's quite expensive if you want a decent bandwidth and i'm not sure how their stuff will work with my machines |
| [11:18:00] | laga: | and i've heard that you can have problems with slow internet access when someone in the neighbourhood downloads like mad |
| [11:18:00] | PaulWay: | BTW, anyone know how to get Myth to compress down certain shows after e.g. 2 weeks? |
| [11:18:00] | eiggirC: | cable is generally good... none of the rain fade issues that wireless/satellite has |
| [11:18:00] | eiggirC: | laga: if slowness is evident, then its an oversubscribed system |
| [11:19:00] | eiggirC: | laga: I have 256 kbit at home, and 2 Mbit at work. I know that the residential area work is in has 30 Mbit total, |
| [11:19:00] | eiggirC: | thats a lot for a thousand houses |
| [11:20:00] | laga: | eiggirC: umm, yes. what about latency? with my current DSL plan, i have high ping times (~80ms) which sucks for shell access and online gaming |
| [11:20:00] | eiggirC: | what are you pinging? |
| [11:20:00] | eiggirC: | a machine at your ISP? |
| [11:20:00] | laga: | eiggirC: for example. |
| [11:23:00] | eiggirC: | laga: okay – here's me pinging my work from home |
| [11:23:00] | eiggirC: | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 48.716/68.422/98.808/21.801 ms |
| [11:24:00] | eiggirC: | and I'm downloading hard out here |
| [11:24:00] | eiggirC: | I normally get 5–15 ms when the link is fairly idle |
| [11:24:00] | laga: | that's nice i should switch then ;) |
| [11:25:00] | eiggirC: | I doubt you're in range |
| [11:27:00] | laga: | to my provider, not to yours ;) |
| [11:27:00] | eiggirC: | -grin- |
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| [11:44:00] | eiggirC: | hmmm – debian's mythtv packages are dependant on libqt3c102-mt which does not exist |
| [11:44:00] | eiggirC: | great |
| [11:44:00] | eiggirC: | how the hell did I install them on the backend box just the other day then?! |
| [11:47:00] | mocker: | eiggirC: Different repository? |
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| [11:58:00] | eiggirC: | mocker: don't think so... all machines have been here at home |
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| [13:40:00] | phon: | hello |
| [13:41:00] | phon: | anyone knows how i can play a 960x528 xvid encoded avi with mplayer ? |
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| [13:45:00] | laga: | mplayer vid-960x528-xvid.avi |
| [13:46:00] | phon: | ? |
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| [13:46:00] | phon: | what do you mean by that ? :) |
| [13:46:00] | laga: | well, you pass the file name to mplayer. |
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| [13:48:00] | phon: | hmm |
| [13:48:00] | phon: | i pass it now without any aspect ratio options |
| [13:48:00] | phon: | and it's all screwed up |
| [13:48:00] | phon: | i got a 4:3 image on the left side of the screen, and smudged image on the right side |
| [13:48:00] | phon: | ans some small green lines on top |
| [13:48:00] | phon: | other files work fine |
| [13:48:00] | laga: | that's probably a broken video out driver. try mplayer -vo x11 filename |
| [13:49:00] | laga: | oh, maybe the file is broken? |
| [13:49:00] | phon: | it plays on my windows box |
| [13:49:00] | phon: | with bsplayer |
| [13:49:00] | phon: | and gspot says it's a normal working xvid/ac3 file |
| [13:49:00] | juski: | hi laga...quick Q for you: how often to you need to reboot your dbox? |
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| [13:52:00] | laga: | juski: honestly, i can't tell. maybe three times a week? |
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| [14:07:00] | juski: | laga.. THREE TIMES A WEEK?! |
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| [14:07:00] | juski: | hells bells! I think I'm seriously gonna have to look at some other way of doing this |
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| [14:10:00] | ftwig: | hello everybody. I have been trying to to get mythtv wrking with ubuntu |
| [14:11:00] | ftwig: | douse anyone know if ubuntu binaryes have dvb suport compiled in? |
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| [14:12:00] | juski: | ftwig.. which kernel do you have? |
| [14:13:00] | ftwig: | juski: 2.6.12.9, its a new breezy install |
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| [14:14:00] | juski: | ftwig.. do a modprobe -l |grep dvb |
| [14:17:00] | ftwig: | juski: its in the kernal, ive got karreine working. What I was trying to work out was if the mythtv package has dvb support. |
| [14:17:00] | juski: | ahhhh |
| [14:17:00] | juski: | ftwig.. download the source & compile it yourself ;) |
| [14:18:00] | juski: | if I can do it.. lol |
| [14:18:00] | ftwig: | juski: strange you should say that. Ime actualy doing it ;) Thing is there is no reference to DVB in configure.pro |
| [14:19:00] | juski: | ./configure --enable-dvb |
| [14:19:00] | juski: | or if you want over the air EPG, do |
| [14:19:00] | juski: | ./configure --enable-dvb --enable-dvb-eit |
| [14:20:00] | ftwig: | ta – giving it a go |
| [14:20:00] | juski: | if you do ./configure --help it'll list all the options |
| [14:20:00] | ftwig: | DVB support no [/usr/src/linux-2.6.12-9–386/include] |
| [14:24:00] | juski: | ftwig: you need to tell it where linux/dvb/frontend.h lives |
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| [14:25:00] | juski: | oh wait no you won;t.. |
| [14:25:00] | juski: | not on a 2.6.12 kernel :) |
| [14:25:00] | juski: | ftwig: have you got libdvb installed? |
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| [14:45:00] | ftwig: | juski:ok – did seem to need dvb-path and have libdvb-dev but the make fails really near the bebining |
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| [14:47:00] | ftwig: | my make failed really near the begining- c http://pastebin.ca/25952 |
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| [15:00:00] | catisonh: | anybody here seen Star Wars? |
| [15:00:00] | laga: | no, never. |
| [15:00:00] | catisonh: | not the new ones, but the originals from 1997 |
| [15:00:00] | laga: | those weren't "original" |
| [15:00:00] | catisonh: | laga, you should see it, they are good |
| [15:00:00] | catisonh: | yeah they are |
| [15:01:00] | catisonh: | those are the first ones that George Lucas made |
| [15:01:00] | laga: | the movies were re-released in 1997 with some additional special FX |
| [15:02:00] | catisonh: | no, that was when they first came out |
| [15:02:00] | catisonh: | it took him about 8 years to make all the movies |
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| [15:04:00] | rjune: | wtf? the originals from 97? |
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| [15:06:00] | sandos: | :) |
| [15:06:00] | DarkBeer: | only off by 20 years |
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| [15:15:00] | ftwig: | Having a make problem. almost falls over immediatly. Pasted output to http://pastebin.ca/25952. |
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| [15:35:00] | ftwig: | if I am using dvb do I need video4linux? |
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| [15:36:00] | Lightnin: | morning |
| [15:37:00] | Beirdo: | I'm so glad I don't live in Pensacola area |
| [15:37:00] | ftwig: | mrning |
| [15:37:00] | ftwig: | if I am using dvb do I need video4linux? |
| [15:37:00] | Beirdo: | have another hurricane, they are cheap |
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| [15:41:00] | Atamido: | http://orangeman.commo.de/ |
| [15:41:00] | ** Atamido will soon be quite orange. ** | |
| [15:41:00] | Atamido: | Muahahahaha! |
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| [15:44:00] | sandos: | =) |
| [15:47:00] | Musashi: | hello |
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| [15:48:00] | ftwig: | hi, Having a make problem. almost falls over immediatly. Pasted output to http://pastebin.ca/25952. |
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| [15:54:00] | Lightnin: | Beirdo, i live in florida. I am use to hurricanes. the kicker is i'm closing on a house friday |
| [15:54:00] | Beirdo: | gah |
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| [15:54:00] | Beirdo: | well, it's looking to be at the west end of Cuba then |
| [15:54:00] | Beirdo: | so you might be OK |
| [15:55:00] | Beirdo: | but New Orleans/Mobile/Pensacola looks like they are gonna get it again |
| [15:55:00] | Lightnin: | ah, but it has a hook on it predicted. i'm wanting it to go around cuba then head straight, but have 2 low pressures to the west that is pushing it this way |
| [15:56:00] | Beirdo: | as long as it leaves Miami the hell alone for Friday |
| [15:56:00] | Beirdo: | let me fly to San Juan, then I'm not so concerned... thanks |
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| [15:58:00] | Lightnin: | ftwig, i'd have to see what line 14 of the header is to see what may be wrong. probably something out of date |
| [15:59:00] | marrandy: | hello everyone |
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| [16:11:00] | UhDollar: | anyone have some experience with transcoding hdtv recorded programs..or maybe just advanced transcoding in general? |
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| [16:15:00] | ** _Nero_ wants to throw his mythbox out the window.. ** | |
| [16:16:00] | _Nero_: | every time I get so close, something gets in the way of mythtv bliss.. My kernel keeps shutting down IRQ 7 (which only contains my sound card) if I havent used sound in over 10–12 hours or so. |
| [16:16:00] | _Nero_: | says "irq 7: nobody cared!".. what a dumb error message.. I care!!! |
| [16:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | really, now that is one I've never heard of |
| [16:17:00] | Lightnin: | ftwig, you still there? |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | nice one, _Nero_ |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | never heard of that message before |
| [16:17:00] | _Nero_: | GreyFoxx- if I google for "irq nobody cared", it looks like a TON of people have this issue, but no body know why, or how to fix it. |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | try a different kernel perhaps |
| [16:18:00] | Lightnin: | grep "nobody cared" /usr/src/linux/* |
| [16:18:00] | Lightnin: | :) |
| [16:18:00] | _Nero_: | is it possible to change the IRQ that EMU10K1 uses for the sound card? I put it in a new PCI slot, and the BIOS reported it being at IRQ 6, but once I book, it keeps getting changed in linux back to IRQ 7. |
| [16:19:00] | Kabutor: | _Nero_, http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/20 . . . /001483.html |
| [16:19:00] | Lightnin: | force the irq in the bios |
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| [16:20:00] | UhDollar: | anyone have some experience with transcoding hdtv recorded programs..or maybe just advanced transcoding in general? |
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| [16:22:00] | _Nero_: | funny.. that message claims it is a problem with the controller in the motherboard.. however this never happened with a 2.4 kernel |
| [16:23:00] | _Nero_: | ok, changed it to irq 9.. lets see if this does any good.. |
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| [16:38:00] | UhDollar: | what information does the "recordedmarkup" table in the mythconverg db? |
| [16:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | I believe it holds the seek table for recordings, pointers to the start/end of flagged commericals and the current cutlist |
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| [16:42:00] | UhDollar: | hmm, is it possible that this casuses issues with issues with ffwd/rewind and jumping after a video has been transcoded by an external program? |
| [16:43:00] | UhDollar: | sorry it's early..can't type :) |
| [16:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | UhDollar: It definately would if the seektable is not rebuilt since all of the data would no longer be accurate |
| [16:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Are you transcoding and then moving it back into the same location? |
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| [16:46:00] | UhDollar: | yeah, but i have to transcode by using a program other than mythtranscode |
| [16:47:00] | UhDollar: | i'm using mencoder to set hdtv firewire streams down from 1080i to dvd quality |
| [16:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | and then overwriting the original with the new copy so that it still is accessible in "Watch Recordings" ? |
| [16:48:00] | UhDollar: | they play back fine unless you try to do something like ffwd,rewind..and there are serious issues with setting the bookmark position on exit..etc |
| [16:48:00] | UhDollar: | yep.. |
| [16:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Your problem is thathe seektable is no longer valid and that is what is being used for skippingh forward/back/etc |
| [16:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | you need to rebuild the seektables for the newly transcoded files |
| [16:48:00] | UhDollar: | is there a way to do that? |
| [16:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythcommflag --rebuild -f filename I think |
| [16:49:00] | UhDollar: | hmm never thought that would be in the commflag program.. |
| [16:50:00] | UhDollar: | thought it might be something in the internal recorder, but i'll look into that and see what heppens... |
| [16:50:00] | UhDollar: | happens even |
| [16:50:00] | Wonker: | On that topic: ... I have been using mpeg2desc and mplex to generate multiplexed MPEG2's that are good for other apps |
| [16:50:00] | Wonker: | anyone know a simple way to use the cut list using this method? Don't want to transcode ... |
| [16:50:00] | ftwig: | Lightnin: still here. moved on a bit. I am now building against linuxtv-1.0.1 and using gcc-3.4 rather than 4. but now getting error after 10 mins cmpiling – http://pastebin.ca/25963 |
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| [16:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't actually use a cut list for anything. Any commercial cutting I've done has been manual |
| [16:51:00] | Wonker: | Currently that is how I am doing it as well |
| [16:51:00] | Wonker: | But sometimes I am in a rush and would put up with the built-in |
| [16:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't think myth has any concept of a cutlist based on pid as well as the recording |
| [16:51:00] | Wonker: | and want to rush things... |
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| [16:52:00] | Wonker: | I had the perception that the nuv file contained the cutlist. I am betting this is wrong? |
| [16:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | The cutlist is in the database |
| [16:52:00] | Wonker: | ah, well then, that is a whole different ballgame |
| [16:52:00] | Wonker: | GreyFoxx, thanks, a little info goes a long ways |
| [16:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | And if it's a mpeg2 file then the nuv isn't really a "nuv". It's a mpg with a .nuv filename |
| [16:53:00] | Wonker: | currently I encode to MPEG2, transcode to DV, edit in IMovie, export to others... |
| [16:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | And in svn it's named .mpg |
| [16:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [16:53:00] | Wonker: | transcoding to DV takes a while and a tad bit of diskspace :) |
| [16:54:00] | Wonker: | is it an entirely legal MPEG2 file? |
| [16:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | All of my stuff is either broadcast in mpeg2 (dvb) or hardware encoded before it reaches myth so I never deal with anything but mpeg files |
| [16:54:00] | Wonker: | (I am using PVR-150) |
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| [16:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | Wonker: It should be |
| [16:55:00] | Wonker: | k, maybe I will try renaming and skipping the mplex step |
| [16:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | all of the compression is happening on the card and it "should" be spitting out a compliant mpeg file. Myth just rreads the data and writes it to the drive unmolested |
| [16:55:00] | Wonker: | assuming my transcoder will be able to handle it (It should it can handle just about anything) |
| [16:56:00] | Wonker: | that would save quite a bit of fussing actually |
| [16:56:00] | Wonker: | and it is the fussing I am trying to get down |
| [16:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | My last round of transcoding has all be done on a window laptop using avisynth+dgindex+virtualdub |
| [16:56:00] | Wonker: | next step would be to auto-build an iMovie file from the DV segments ... it has to be split into 2GB segments |
| [16:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've yet to find a *nix group of apps that really made me happy or performed as well |
| [16:57:00] | Wonker: | I am using the iMovie route 'cause it lets me easily generate a variety of transcodes as well as DVD |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | we look forward to your new tools, GreyFoxx :) |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [16:57:00] | UhDollar: | many thanks greyfoxx, that did the trick, rebuilding the seektable works.. |
| [16:57:00] | Wonker: | my g/f is away with limited cable and no PVR, so I am making her DVD's weekly :) |
| [16:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | Only burning I would do to DVD is a data disk with xvids on it :) |
| [16:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | UhDollar: Cool |
| [16:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: Not likely. I'm happy with this setup now :) |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | *cough* wuss :) |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | I understand, dude |
| [16:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | No, it's about priortizing my time :) I'd rather spend it with my Daughter :) |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | but of course |
| [16:59:00] | Wonker: | I think one killer add-on to myth would be select a bunch of programs, hit burn and you get a menued (simple of course) dvd with the content recompressed to fit |
| [17:00:00] | Wonker: | looked into it, it seems like a hellish bit of work as the tools on linux are largely arcane and poorly documented |
| [17:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | There are a few things out there like that |
| [17:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythburn and some others |
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| [17:01:00] | Wonker: | I looked at quite a few, and all seemed fatally flawed in one way or another |
| [17:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | I just don't personally ever burn to a "regular" dvd. All of my players are divx/xvid capable and a standard dvd is a waste of space heh |
| [17:01:00] | Wonker: | ah, I wish I was there. |
| [17:02:00] | Wonker: | mind you ... I might be able to pay off a new divx capable player for her just in DVD's at this rate |
| [17:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | My player was $90CDN when I bought it |
| [17:02:00] | Wonker: | Might even get motivated to get transcoding working on my linux boxen :) |
| [17:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | And holds ~13 or so episodes per disk |
| [17:02:00] | Wonker: | (or windows box, which is by far my fastest but least used box...) |
| [17:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | plays every file/format I've tossed at it expect for a single indeo file I've had for about 13 years |
| [17:03:00] | ** Wonker is now musing DVD players.... ** | |
| [17:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | If that player had ethernet like some of momitsu(spl?) I'd be using that as a frontend heh |
| [17:04:00] | Wonker: | You have been using avisynth+dgindex+virtualdub on Win? |
| [17:04:00] | Wonker: | My win box has nothing to do 99% of the time .... |
| [17:04:00] | Wonker: | So it would be ideal as a transcode box |
| [17:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | Wonker: Yup |
| [17:05:00] | Wonker: | thanks, man, I have a project for the weekend |
| [17:05:00] | Wonker: | she could always watch the stuff on her iBook in any case |
| [17:06:00] | Wonker: | and I wouldn't have to tether my Powerbook to external drives to do it... |
| [17:06:00] | Wonker: | She might end up with a new DVD player :_ |
| [17:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [17:08:00] | Wonker: | so ... anyone know the quick and easy way to delay a filesystem mount? (short of mucking with an init.d script) |
| [17:09:00] | Wonker: | my new SATA card driver doesn't get loaded in time to mount my myth-lib volume group, causing a manual start up issue.... |
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| [17:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | And you can't just recompile the kernel to have the driver built in rather than loaded ? |
| [17:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | If not then an init script is likely your best option |
| [17:11:00] | Wonker: | Currently I am running a stock kernel; if I go to a custom one, I will give in to the urge to optimize and then leave out some driver or another, and then have to do it all over again... |
| [17:11:00] | Wonker: | been there, done that many many times |
| [17:11:00] | malaTG: | hi everyone! |
| [17:11:00] | Wonker: | lol |
| [17:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | Wonker: I've never used anything but a custom compiled kernel heh |
| [17:12:00] | Wonker: | actually, this is my first stock kernel in many years, and I have been luxuriating in it |
| [17:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | But an init script would do what you need |
| [17:12:00] | Wonker: | I think my first stock on ever |
| [17:12:00] | Wonker: | I guess it is a minor bit of hassle (the init script) |
| [17:13:00] | malaTG: | Does anyone know if there is any good guide out there on how to transcode nuv mpeg2 files to xvid avi automagic when I have marked the commercials in a recordig? |
| [17:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | init scripts are your friend |
| [17:13:00] | Wonker: | I think I am getting lazy in my old age... |
| [17:13:00] | Wonker: | I only recently even went to 2.6... |
| [17:14:00] | Wonker: | malaTG, nuvexport (google it) |
| [17:14:00] | Wonker: | malaTG, works for lots of people |
| [17:14:00] | malaTG: | ok thx |
| [17:14:00] | Wonker: | can't remember if it cuts commercials on xvid though... |
| [17:14:00] | Wonker: | I think so |
| [17:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | It gives you the option of using the cutlist or not |
| [17:15:00] | Wonker: | if you have an very recent version of ffmpeg, can cause a little grief |
| [17:15:00] | malaTG: | no I have figured out on how to transcode my edited(without commercial) mpeg2 to mpeg4 nuv files however i want avi not nuv files |
| [17:16:00] | Wonker: | depends on your skill set |
| [17:16:00] | Wonker: | nuvexport will generate a wide variety of formats |
| [17:16:00] | Wonker: | including avi files |
| [17:16:00] | Wonker: | it does export *to* nuv files, it exports *from* them |
| [17:16:00] | Wonker: | confusing name... |
| [17:17:00] | malaTG: | Ok I will check it out and maybe comeback it I have some questions :-) |
| [17:18:00] | Wonker: | err s/does/doesn't/ |
| [17:20:00] | Beirdo: | it exports nuv files to something else, how is that confusing? |
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| [17:22:00] | malaTG: | I have a really stupid question: What is good with the nuv-format? |
| [17:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | Less audio sync issues compared to avi's for one thing |
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| [17:23:00] | malaTG: | okey |
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| [17:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | *sniff* my box has to get rebooted as they are moving power around in the machine room. |
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| [17:26:00] | ** GreyFoxx quickly whips off a backup sequence ** | |
| [17:26:00] | Wonker: | Beirdo, heh, some of us are extremely pedantic an and are easily confused. |
| [17:27:00] | ** Beirdo gives Hurricane Wilma the finger ** | |
| [17:28:00] | Beirdo: | have to see if my mom wants to reroute to avoid Miami... |
| [17:28:00] | Beirdo: | will make the second time. I did that to avoid Katrina too |
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| [17:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | Man, I really should rebuild that box one day, but it just works "perfectly"... argh |
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| [17:43:00] | Joran: | Hi all, I'm considering building a mythtv box, but I have Sky Sattelite (UK) and there's no cards that can decode sky, you have to record analog, and infrared control the sky box, but will I have to use two IR ports (one for controlling the sky box from myth and one for controlling the mythbox with a remote)? |
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| [18:03:00] | Mrgoose (i=0@user-0c99ssh.cable.mindspring.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [18:03:00] | Mrgoose: | hello |
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| [18:05:00] | Mrgoose: | how come converting to xvid takes like 45 minutes but converting to svcd takes like 4 hours |
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| [18:07:00] | Mrgoose: | how come converting to xvid takes like 45 minutes but converting to svcd takes like 4 hours |
| [18:07:00] | Mrgoose: | oops |
| [18:07:00] | Beirdo: | because it does |
| [18:08:00] | Mrgoose: | cool |
| [18:08:00] | Mrgoose: | which method do you bakc up to? |
| [18:09:00] | Beirdo: | it's likely that it requires more CPU for whatever reason |
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| [18:09:00] | Beirdo: | DVCD if I ever bother |
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| [18:11:00] | Mrgoose: | cool |
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| [18:12:00] | Mrgoose: | baddabing |
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| [18:26:00] | Hoxzer: | hi |
| [18:26:00] | Hoxzer: | now now |
| [18:26:00] | Hoxzer: | mythfilldatabase --manual runs like there was no "manual" setting at all :E? |
| [18:27:00] | Hoxzer: | so can I edit some config file to setup my channels or something? |
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| [18:29:00] | Hoxzer: | god damnit couldn't they have made this a little bit easier to setup :D |
| [18:29:00] | Hoxzer: | like wtf |
| [18:29:00] | Hoxzer: | "Mythfilldatabase --manual" -> is same as "mythfilldatabase" is :E |
| [18:29:00] | Hoxzer: | like yeah |
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| [18:34:00] | Hoxzer: | ;/ |
| [18:35:00] | Hoxzer: | damn I like this channels cause I can always get helpful information ;) |
| [18:36:00] | Mrgoose: | lol |
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| [19:06:00] | juski: | well it's been fun today. the environmental test chamber went beserk & melted 3 dvr units. think it's time to cut my losses & go home |
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| [19:24:00] | Hoxzer: | Eh.... |
| [19:34:00] | kross: | can anyone in here capture hdtv? |
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| [20:09:00] | Hoxzer: | !!! /me goes mad |
| [20:09:00] | Hoxzer: | :D |
| [20:09:00] | Hoxzer: | knoppmyth has nonthing |
| [20:09:00] | Hoxzer: | I can't even install openssh-server |
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| [20:09:00] | Hoxzer: | :D like "hey thx" |
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| [20:22:00] | thechris: | anyone have any examples of how to use mysql |
| [20:23:00] | thechris: | i'm wanting to make a program that takes the tv listings from mythtv and makes a playlist usable by mplayer or windows |
| [20:23:00] | kormoc: | thechris, www.mysql.com |
| [20:25:00] | thechris: | hmm i can't even connect to the mysql server using the dirctions on the site |
| [20:25:00] | Krazylegz: | mysql -p -u mythtv |
| [20:26:00] | kormoc: | thechris, you'll need to read up a bit I'd venture to say |
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| [20:32:00] | thechris: | kormoc: by chance do you know how to just export the table from mysql to a text file? |
| [20:32:00] | Krazylegz: | mysqldump |
| [20:32:00] | Krazylegz: | Or, use phpMyAdmin. Makes it easier. |
| [20:34:00] | thechris: | ok, mysqldump. i should be able to use that easier then learning mysql |
| [20:34:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [20:35:00] | Krazylegz: | Or, you could learn SQL anyway. |
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| [20:35:00] | thechris: | maybe later |
| [20:36:00] | thechris: | the playback in mythtv has gotten way too bad |
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| [20:43:00] | kross: | can anyone in here capture hdtv or pdtv? |
| [20:43:00] | Juski: | pdtv? |
| [20:44:00] | Juski: | what do you mean by pdtv? |
| [20:45:00] | Juski: | hey no PMing without asking.. v. bad etiquette |
| [20:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | pdtv are DVB streams |
| [20:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | dvb streams excoded to xvid/divx |
| [20:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | encoded |
| [20:45:00] | Juski: | ahhh |
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| [20:46:00] | Juski: | I capture DVB-T without any problems |
| [20:46:00] | kross: | where do u live |
| [20:46:00] | Juski: | UK |
| [20:46:00] | kormoc: | Juski, he's been pmming everyone it seems |
| [20:48:00] | laga: | not me |
| [20:49:00] | Juski: | I don't know how to disable PMs in GAIM |
| [20:50:00] | Krazylegz: | Juski: I don't think you can? |
| [20:50:00] | Juski: | thought as much |
| [20:50:00] | Juski: | I'm not installing MIRC again |
| [20:50:00] | kormoc: | xchat for the win |
| [20:51:00] | Juski: | laga.. just reflashed by dbox... seems that last night's fun corrupted the file system somehow |
| [20:51:00] | Juski: | *my.. not 'by' lol |
| [20:51:00] | laga: | Juski: hehe :). not going to play with it anymore, i believe my wrt54g is more interesting |
| [20:51:00] | Juski: | and I now have a theory why the box kept crashing.. too much going on in the way of http requests |
| [20:52:00] | Juski: | httpd was running at 99% CPU usage in top (!) |
| [20:52:00] | kormoc: | Juski, http://www.silverex.info/news/ |
| [20:52:00] | Juski: | so I'm gonna rip the EPG grabber out of the code altogether |
| [20:52:00] | laga: | Juski: ouch. was it caused by mythtv? |
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| [20:53:00] | Juski: | laga: seen as mythtv was the only thing communicating with the box.. it couldn't have been anything else |
| [20:53:00] | eiggirC: | well thanks to laga last night I have a mythtv system with separate front and backends. YAY |
| [20:53:00] | Juski: | hey kormoc.. thanks for that ;) |
| [20:53:00] | kormoc: | yup |
| [20:54:00] | laga: | eiggirC: :) |
| [20:55:00] | Juski: | I never figured out how to get MIRC to log me in automatically & register my nick.. so went with GAIM.. it'll do but I'll definitely look into xchat :) |
| [20:55:00] | ** Juski thinks a mythtv get together should be arranged, where people who owe folks beers can pay their debt :D ** | |
| [20:56:00] | laga: | Juski: well, i believe that this is a bug in the software for the dboxII, huh? |
| [20:56:00] | kormoc: | Juski, there's been one done in Seattle before. |
| [20:56:00] | laga: | Juski: great, spending lots of money on other people and staying sober sounds like fun |
| [20:56:00] | Juski: | laga: I've suspected that for a while, but my german isn't too good, so I could hardly know |
| [20:57:00] | ** Juski wonders whatever happened to 'just getting it up & running, then leave it alone' that he promised ** | |
| [20:57:00] | laga: | Juski: to whom? the wife? ;) |
| [20:57:00] | Krazylegz: | kormoc: You mean when you and xris get together after work for beers? ;-) |
| [20:58:00] | Juski: | laga: basically.. yeah |
| [20:58:00] | kormoc: | Krazylegz, hehe, there was like 5 other people who said they'd show up and never did, but yeah, that's how it ended :P |
| [20:58:00] | Juski: | I wonder how many marriages linux has broken up |
| [20:58:00] | Beirdo: | don't blame Linux |
| [20:58:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [20:58:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [20:58:00] | Krazylegz: | I'm more interested in the number of marriages that Linux has prevented. That's a valuable number. |
| [20:59:00] | Juski: | hahaha |
| [20:59:00] | kormoc: | if a man doesn't understand that woman > computer, it's not linux breaking up the marrage. |
| [20:59:00] | laga: | Juski: ;) |
| [20:59:00] | ** Krazylegz is anti-marriage ** | |
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| [21:00:00] | ** laga is pro-ONS ** | |
| [21:00:00] | Juski: | ONS? |
| [21:01:00] | kormoc: | One Night Stands |
| [21:01:00] | Juski: | ahhh I remember them (barely) |
| [21:01:00] | laga: | Juski: too drunk, huh? ;) |
| [21:01:00] | ** laga hide ** | |
| [21:01:00] | Juski: | who? me or them? |
| [21:01:00] | kormoc: | I feel sorry for people who just want sex. it's so meh. |
| [21:02:00] | laga: | kormoc: indeed. relationships > ONS |
| [21:03:00] | laga: | (i was joking before) |
| [21:04:00] | Juski: | very PC of you, laga ;) |
| [21:06:00] | laga: | Juski: no, i just forgot the smiley. ;) |
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| [21:20:00] | mchou: | haha, this is a cool mod! http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=34479 |
| [21:21:00] | [Klatuu]: | I have that cse |
| [21:21:00] | [Klatuu]: | case |
| [21:21:00] | Krazylegz: | The "you are not logged in" mod? |
| [21:22:00] | mchou: | huh?? The LCD mod |
| [21:22:00] | mchou: | done with a PSOne thingy |
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| [21:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've got one of those |
| [21:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | I was gonna use it in my HT room, b ut then I picked up the touch screen |
| [21:24:00] | Hoxzer: | I just created my grab tv listing where should I put it? |
| [21:25:00] | [Klatuu]: | *sigh* |
| [21:25:00] | [Klatuu]: | I better get working on building my access point/router |
| [21:25:00] | Hoxzer: | is it same as config file named by *.xmltv? |
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| [21:25:00] | Hoxzer: | ;/ |
| [21:25:00] | Hoxzer: | plz |
| [21:25:00] | Hoxzer: | help |
| [21:26:00] | Hoxzer: | ;D why this channel always goes mute when I ask something |
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| [21:32:00] | Juski: | Hoxzer – don't take it personally, man |
| [21:34:00] | Juski: | Hoxzer... if you mean you've got an xmltv formatted program guide to import into the database, look into the mythfilldatabase command line switches ;) |
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| [21:38:00] | Hoxzer: | Juski: well, I did what I did and now it stays on "getting listings" :D |
| [21:39:00] | Hoxzer: | maybe I shouldn't have configured all the channels |
| [21:39:00] | Hoxzer: | how long does it take if you have like 50 channels? |
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| [21:44:00] | Juski: | might take a few minutes, Hoxzer |
| [21:44:00] | Hoxzer: | "few minutes" ;E |
| [21:44:00] | Juski: | depends how the grabber you're using works |
| [21:46:00] | Hoxzer: | Juski: I did this -> I configured the grabber -> I created .conf file from it -> I renamed and move it to my mythtv folder as my xmltv file |
| [21:46:00] | Hoxzer: | *moved |
| [21:46:00] | Juski: | right.. which grabber is it? |
| [21:46:00] | Hoxzer: | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checko . . . _fi?rev=1.37 |
| [21:47:00] | Juski: | is the progress bar moving at all? |
| [21:47:00] | Hoxzer: | I dont see any progress bar |
| [21:47:00] | Hoxzer: | I mean when I did that what I said I ran -> mythfilldatabase |
| [21:47:00] | Juski: | yeh |
| [21:48:00] | Juski: | is mythfilldatabase set up to use tv_grab_fi ? |
| [21:48:00] | Hoxzer: | then it says "getting list of channels" -> "getting listings" -> |
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| [21:48:00] | Hoxzer: | and it is still doing it |
| [21:48:00] | Juski: | hmmm |
| [21:49:00] | Juski: | might be best to test it from the command line first |
| [21:49:00] | Hoxzer: | Juski: I renamed it as my .xmltv file so it automatically used it |
| [21:49:00] | Hoxzer: | Im doing this in command line |
| [21:49:00] | Juski: | so it's called "the_name_of_your_video_source.xmltv" |
| [21:49:00] | Hoxzer: | no its called "DigitaalinenTV.xmltv |
| [21:50:00] | Hoxzer: | ;) |
| [21:50:00] | Juski: | Hoxzer.. I mean, run tv_grab_fi from the command line |
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| [21:50:00] | Hoxzer: | I runned it |
| [21:50:00] | Hoxzer: | I did tv_grab_fi --configure |
| [21:50:00] | Hoxzer: | then I did tv_grab_fi |
| [21:50:00] | Juski: | yeah Hoxzer but is there a video source you've called DigitaalinenTV ? |
| [21:51:00] | Hoxzer: | Juski: its the conf file that tv_grab_fi did |
| [21:51:00] | Juski: | ahh the xmltv file needs to be called the same name as the video source you want to grab listings for |
| [21:52:00] | Juski: | e.g. my DVB tuners are linked to the video input I call 'antenna', so I have 'antenna.xmltv' in the mythtv directory |
| [21:52:00] | Hoxzer: | juski: I want you to know that the "tv_grab_fi.conf" was renamed to "DigitaalinenTV.xmltv" |
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| [21:54:00] | Hoxzer: | Juski: yes |
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| [21:55:00] | Hoxzer: | Juski: shoudl the .xmltv file look like this: tv.katso.fi"> |
| [21:55:00] | Hoxzer: | <title lang="fi">Veckans hitvarning</title> |
| [21:55:00] | Hoxzer: | </programme> |
| [21:55:00] | Hoxzer: | <programme start="20051025043000 +0300" channel="ztv.katso.fi"> |
| [21:55:00] | Hoxzer: | <title lang="fi">Nattmusik</title> |
| [21:55:00] | Hoxzer: | </programme> |
| [21:55:00] | Hoxzer: | </tv> |
| [21:55:00] | Hoxzer: | But much much more text |
| [21:56:00] | Hoxzer: | that is a one part of it |
| [21:56:00] | Hoxzer: | :E |
| [21:56:00] | Hoxzer: | It completed it |
| [21:58:00] | ivor: | gaaah, damnit. how do you stop your cat sitting on your laptop. |
| [21:59:00] | DarkBeer_: | kill the cat |
| [21:59:00] | DarkBeer_: | buy a dog |
| [22:00:00] | Hoxzer: | Juski: GET back here :D |
| [22:00:00] | [Klatuu]: | boil the cat |
| [22:00:00] | Hoxzer: | should the tv work now? |
| [22:01:00] | Juski: | where's the fire? |
| [22:01:00] | Juski: | that looks like an xmltv file to me |
| [22:01:00] | Hoxzer: | ok |
| [22:01:00] | Hoxzer: | now that I did "mythfilldatabase" should tv work? |
| [22:02:00] | Juski: | tv should work regardless of whether it has program guide info or not |
| [22:03:00] | Hoxzer: | :D |
| [22:03:00] | Hoxzer: | nice to know |
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| [22:03:00] | Hoxzer: | well when I try "watch tv" option it just gives me a black screen |
| [22:04:00] | Juski: | well now there's a thing |
| [22:04:00] | Juski: | time for me to ask some questions, Hoxzer: |
| [22:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | Are you sure you have the video source bought to the right input ? |
| [22:04:00] | Hoxzer: | althrought it identifies my tv chip |
| [22:04:00] | Hoxzer: | ok |
| [22:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | bound |
| [22:04:00] | Juski: | 1. what card are you using? |
| [22:05:00] | Hoxzer: | Juski: I use two cards cinergy 1200 DVB-C for digital use and PCTV rave for analog use |
| [22:05:00] | Juski: | 2. have you already tested it in linux with tvtime or similar |
| [22:05:00] | Hoxzer: | no |
| [22:05:00] | Hoxzer: | should I? |
| [22:06:00] | Juski: | I keep saying this to people.. eventually someone will listen: prove your hardware is working before you even play with mythtv |
| [22:06:00] | Hoxzer: | Juski: I dunno nonthing about tvtime or similar |
| [22:07:00] | Juski: | DVB cards can be tested with the dvb utilities from linuxtv.org |
| [22:09:00] | Hoxzer: | can you give me direct link to one those |
| [22:10:00] | Juski: | http://www.linuxtv.org/downloads/linuxtv-dvb-apps-1.1.0.tar.bz2 |
| [22:12:00] | Beirdo: | STFW |
| [22:13:00] | Juski: | Beirdo.. eh? |
| [22:13:00] | Beirdo: | search the f'ing web |
| [22:13:00] | Juski: | heheh |
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| [22:17:00] | Juski: | getting czap to work might be a bit of a challenge tho.. and I hope your cable service isn't encrapted |
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| [22:18:00] | Pete__: | ok, im recording a program just now but I want to stop it recording. I go into 'upcoming recordings' the current recording is red, I press onto it, go down to 'stop recording' but it continues to record?! Is this a bug or something (v0.18.1) |
| [22:19:00] | Juski: | Hoxzer: where do you live? |
| [22:20:00] | Hoxzer: | finland |
| [22:20:00] | Juski: | oh yeah.. oops |
| [22:23:00] | Juski: | you'll need to find a channels.conf for your cable provider, or else use the scanning util |
| [22:23:00] | Hoxzer: | Juski: are you familiar with software called by "scan"? |
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| [22:23:00] | rapha: | Hi all! |
| [22:23:00] | rapha: | I recorded my first recording with MythTV, but sound is only VEEEERY faint, totally unintelligable ... what went wrong / can it be corrected? |
| [22:23:00] | Juski: | hoxzer: kind of |
| [22:23:00] | Beirdo: | could well be mixer settings, rapha |
| [22:23:00] | Hoxzer: | Juski: ok, what should it do? |
| [22:23:00] | rapha: | Beirdo: I turned up everything. And when I came home the recording still had 15 minutes to go, which I could hear through the speakers |
| [22:23:00] | Juski: | Hoxzer.. in the scan/dvb-c directory there are some files: at-Vienna ch-unknown de-Berlin de-iesy fi-3ktv fi-vaasa-oncable ... are any of those your cable provider? |
| [22:23:00] | Beirdo: | dunno, rapha, off hand |
| [22:24:00] | rapha: | Beirdo: is there at least anything I can do to diagnose this? |
| [22:24:00] | Hoxzer: | Juski: no |
| [22:24:00] | Hoxzer: | I dont think |
| [22:24:00] | Beirdo: | that would depend on the setup, etc |
| [22:24:00] | Hoxzer: | HTV is my cable provider I gues |
| [22:24:00] | Beirdo: | way too many variables to give a standard answer |
| [22:24:00] | Hoxzer: | but now I need to test my hardware |
| [22:24:00] | rapha: | Beirdo: I'd be grateful for _any_ piece of help that you might have |
| [22:25:00] | Juski: | Hoxzer.. without using scan and czap, you're up a certain creek without a certain paddle for the time being |
| [22:25:00] | Beirdo: | you'll need to tell us what type of capture card, etc before we can have much of an idea at all |
| [22:25:00] | Hoxzer: | well its DVB-c and analog? |
| [22:26:00] | rapha: | Beirdo: Okay, that's no prob. The capture card is an analog Bt878 made by Hauppauge |
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| [22:26:00] | MrSpiffy: | moo |
| [22:26:00] | rapha: | Beirdo: what other info need I look up? |
| [22:26:00] | Beirdo: | rapha: OK, how do you have the sound capturing? through a soundcard, or using btaudio? |
| [22:26:00] | MrSpiffy: | question: can myth ripping set to just rip to a VOB and not trarnscode? |
| [22:27:00] | Hoxzer: | Juski: when I do "femon" it outputs something |
| [22:27:00] | laga: | MrSpiffy: yep, do a "perfect" rip |
| [22:27:00] | rapha: | Beirdo: absolutely no idea. Usually, when listening tv with xawtv or so, the sound goes out of the tv cards line-out and into the sound cards line-in. |
| [22:27:00] | Beirdo: | OK |
| [22:27:00] | Beirdo: | good enough |
| [22:27:00] | rapha: | kay |
| [22:27:00] | Beirdo: | you will likely need to tweak your mixer settings |
| [22:27:00] | MrSpiffy: | laga "perfect" rip is just a rip to vob? no transcode? |
| [22:27:00] | laga: | MrSpiffy: i think so. |
| [22:28:00] | Beirdo: | xawtv doesn't actually capture the sound, it just lets it go out the soundcard directly |
| [22:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | laga, one sec – will try that |
| [22:28:00] | Beirdo: | mythtv captures the line in, then plays it back |
| [22:28:00] | Beirdo: | it's fairly well documented, I think |
| [22:28:00] | rapha: | Hmm |
| [22:28:00] | rapha: | kay |
| [22:29:00] | rapha: | Beirdo: but so you say when everything is turned up a 100% I should be able to record sound with MythTV? |
| [22:29:00] | Juski: | Hoxzer.. you're gonna need to know whether or not the cards can actually pick up the streams from your cable provider.. and you need some basic info to get mythtv to scan for channels.. info which scan can provide |
| [22:29:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [22:29:00] | Beirdo: | read the mythtv documentation |
| [22:29:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [22:29:00] | rapha: | Mkay |
| [22:29:00] | Beirdo: | you need to set up the capture source |
| [22:29:00] | rapha: | Thx |
| [22:29:00] | Beirdo: | in ALSA I dunno how to do it |
| [22:30:00] | Pete__: | so, does anyone know anything about the stopping recordings? |
| [22:30:00] | Beirdo: | if you are using OSS sound drivers, it's simple |
| [22:30:00] | Beirdo: | I don't use ALSA so someone else would have to help if you use it |
| [22:30:00] | rapha: | Beirdo: OSS emulation here |
| [22:30:00] | rapha: | Somehow it'll work |
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| [22:30:00] | Beirdo: | that's still ALSA, I think (mixer-wise) |
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| [22:30:00] | rapha: | Yeah, well, you get an OSS mixer and an ALSA mixer |
| [22:31:00] | Beirdo: | I'm sure SOMEone here knows their way around that part... |
| [22:31:00] | Beirdo: | I use PVR-250s now too, so it's not even an issue anymore |
| [22:31:00] | Beirdo: | basically you need to allow capture from the line-in, and mute it from going back out to line-out directly |
| [22:32:00] | Beirdo: | and then set your volumes around 80–90%, not 100% (keep it from clipping) |
| [22:32:00] | rapha: | Beirdo: just looking at the server log which says "Please go into the TV Settings, Recording Profiles and setup the four 'Software Encoders' profiles." and then "NVR: Error, unknown audio codec", sounds like it could be related. But "TV Settings" doesn't seem to be a part of mythtv-setup... |
| [22:32:00] | Beirdo: | it's in the frontend settings pages |
| [22:32:00] | Beirdo: | you'll need to do that too :) |
| [22:34:00] | Hoxzer: | Juski: yes... so how do check that |
| [22:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | laga, I think that's it |
| [22:35:00] | laga: | MrSpiffy: nice ;) |
| [22:35:00] | Juski: | Hoxzer.. I think you're gonna have to resort to looking for a howto or a wiki |
| [22:36:00] | Hoxzer: | or maybe I just ask it from you? |
| [22:36:00] | MrSpiffy: | laga, one of these days I have to recompile mplayer to use xvmc |
| [22:36:00] | Hoxzer: | I'm sure its like "write this command and see" |
| [22:37:00] | Juski: | Hoxzer: you could try ./scan dvb-c/fi-3ktv |
| [22:37:00] | Juski: | then if that doesn't work, try ./scan fi-vaasa-oncable |
| [22:38:00] | Hoxzer: | it says that device is bussy |
| [22:39:00] | Juski: | http://hyvatti.iki.fi/~jaakko/dvb/ |
| [22:39:00] | Beirdo: | then stop the backend first maybe |
| [22:40:00] | Juski: | Hoxzer... I know this seems like a long way round, but if you have problems in mythtv later how will you know which is wrongly configured? |
| [22:41:00] | Juski: | good thing is I accidentally found the dbox2 linux forum :) |
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| [23:14:00] | mmurphy: | anyone have any tips of fixing mplay syncing issues? |
| [23:15:00] | Juski: | mmurphy: use xine |
| [23:15:00] | mmurphy: | its better? |
| [23:16:00] | Juski: | I find it's better |
| [23:16:00] | Led-Hed: | mmurphy, ya xine is much better |
| [23:16:00] | Juski: | you can adjust the a/v offset if you need to |
| [23:16:00] | mmurphy: | you have syncing issues in mplayer? |
| [23:16:00] | Led-Hed: | no |
| [23:16:00] | Juski: | what kind of file are you having sync issues with? |
| [23:16:00] | Led-Hed: | audio / video sync? |
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| [23:17:00] | mmurphy: | ya audio is off the video ... |
| [23:18:00] | mmurphy: | never had an issue on fc2 ... but i have a clean install steaming xvids froma samba share ... |
| [23:18:00] | mmurphy: | worked great before |
| [23:18:00] | Juski: | try xine then |
| [23:18:00] | Juski: | dare I ask: why did you upgrade? |
| [23:19:00] | mmurphy: | no realy ... formated installed pvr150 card |
| [23:19:00] | mmurphy: | clean install |
| [23:19:00] | Juski: | try xine anyway |
| [23:20:00] | Led-Hed: | mmurphy, do you have the extra audio buffering enabled in mythtv? |
| [23:21:00] | mmurphy: | i don't know would that be on by default? |
| [23:21:00] | mmurphy: | and mythtfrontend or setup ? |
| [23:22:00] | Juski: | mythfrontend.. utils/setup |
| [23:22:00] | Juski: | I tink |
| [23:23:00] | mmurphy: | should be off |
| [23:24:00] | mmurphy: | Led-Hed: wouldn't that cause more issues then in just mythvideo? |
| [23:25:00] | Led-Hed: | are your AV sync issues with TV recordings or with DVD's? |
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| [23:26:00] | mmurphy: | xvids, streaming from a samba share, played in mythtvvideo via mplayer |
| [23:26:00] | Led-Hed: | humm. is xvmc running? |
| [23:26:00] | Led-Hed: | err. are U using xvmc |
| [23:27:00] | mmurphy: | xvmc? |
| [23:27:00] | Led-Hed: | ya, for decoding |
| [23:28:00] | mmurphy: | i don't know |
| [23:28:00] | Led-Hed: | there is also an option to use video as timebase to sync audio |
| [23:28:00] | mmurphy: | decoding the xvids? |
| [23:28:00] | Led-Hed: | not sure if that effects MythVideo |
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| [23:29:00] | Led-Hed: | if you run mplayer from the command line to watch the xvids how do they play? better or worse |
| [23:30:00] | mmurphy: | well ive tried ... -autosync 0 -autosync 1 -mc 0 and -nobps |
| [23:30:00] | Led-Hed: | from the command line? |
| [23:30:00] | mmurphy: | addits it to the mplayer mythtvideo command line setting |
| [23:31:00] | Led-Hed: | no no, try running it from a shell / console / terminal window.... |
| [23:31:00] | mmurphy: | i can't right now ... have to try that later ... |
| [23:31:00] | mmurphy: | its all hooped to the tv |
| [23:32:00] | Led-Hed: | you cant see a terminal on the tv? |
| [23:32:00] | Led-Hed: | or you dont have a keyboard hooked up? |
| [23:32:00] | mmurphy: | no keyboard |
| [23:33:00] | Led-Hed: | ah |
| [23:33:00] | mmurphy: | hmmmm |
| [23:33:00] | Led-Hed: | when you try that, also try xine.... |
| [23:33:00] | Led-Hed: | is live tv sync'd correctly? |
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| [23:35:00] | mmurphy: | Led-Hed: yup |
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| [23:35:00] | mmurphy: | np .. just teh xvids in mythvideo ... |
| [23:35:00] | mmurphy: | Led-Hed |
| [23:35:00] | mmurphy: | are u using xine? |
| [23:36:00] | Led-Hed: | ya |
| [23:36:00] | Led-Hed: | can handle DVD's better. |
| [23:36:00] | mmurphy: | ha ha i don't have it installed |
| [23:37:00] | Led-Hed: | mplayer cant use DVD menus |
| [23:37:00] | mmurphy: | i wonder is cache will work |
| [23:37:00] | Led-Hed: | I also have better luck with Xine and DVD audio tracks. mplayer would sometimes detect the wrong language.... |
| [23:37:00] | Juski: | xine is good for deinterlacing too |
| [23:38:00] | Led-Hed: | I've never used it for de-interlacing. all my dvd's play progressive/480p |
| [23:39:00] | Led-Hed: | except for spongebob. I might try it with that dvd |
| [23:39:00] | mmurphy: | i would be happy if it would sync the audio and video .. |
| [23:39:00] | mmurphy: | -nobps was a tad better .. not still not watchable |
| [23:39:00] | Led-Hed: | yum install xine |
| [23:39:00] | mmurphy: | give that a shot tongith .. |
| [23:40:00] | Led-Hed: | I have had AV sync issues with Xvid/Divx in windows but never tried in windows... |
| [23:40:00] | Led-Hed: | neer tried in linux |
| [23:40:00] | mmurphy: | never had the issue i windows |
| [23:40:00] | Led-Hed: | never. err I cant type |
| [23:43:00] | mmurphy: | odd i've never had this issue before ... |
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| [23:46:00] | xris: | sync issues are usually all about the player. |
| [23:46:00] | xris: | different players in linux (or windows) will be different. |
| [23:52:00] | Led-Hed: | xris, I'm excited.. I built a Mini-ITX mail server with SATA & Software RAID1... |
| [23:52:00] | Led-Hed: | used 2 60g SATA notebook drives.... |
| [23:52:00] | xris: | cool |
| [23:53:00] | xris: | we keep meaning to benchmark software raid1 vs hardware.... |
| [23:53:00] | xris: | I'm upset at my sata drive at the moment... it's half as fast as kormoc's pata drive. |
| [23:53:00] | Led-Hed: | The only benchmark tool I've seen for linux is bonnie. and it confuses me. |
| [23:54:00] | Led-Hed: | xris, I finally got my 9500 a 64bit slot.... ;) |
| [23:54:00] | xris: | well, pretty easy to compare reads/writes in a simple time test |
| [23:54:00] | xris: | we're just curious which is faster, since cpu's these days can be better than the processor on many raid cards. |
| [23:54:00] | xris: | maybe not for raid5, but for raid1 it might be better to have software. |
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| [23:55:00] | Led-Hed: | the reason I try to stick to Hardware RAID is the ease of use. Typically the RAID BIOS is easier to manage than software RAID. for me anyhow. |
| [23:56:00] | jnc: | it's terribly expensive |
| [23:56:00] | Led-Hed: | not if you count my time. |
| [23:56:00] | jnc: | a 3ware card was like 20 dollars usd |
| [23:56:00] | jnc: | i sold it for 200 |
| [23:56:00] | Led-Hed: | my 9500 was close to 600 USD |
| [23:56:00] | jnc: | mmhm |
| [23:57:00] | Led-Hed: | its an 8 port SATA RAID controller |
| [23:57:00] | jnc: | well i wanted the 150usd profit more than i wanted to sit down and slave through converting my software md raid1 array to a 3ware setup |
| [23:57:00] | jnc: | neato |
| [23:57:00] | xris: | Led-Hed: yes. and raid5 will almost always be better... but we are curious how it works out for raid1 |
| [23:57:00] | jnc: | hardware 3ware sata raid makes sense i think |
| [23:57:00] | jnc: | if you got the loot |
| [23:59:00] | Led-Hed: | xris, I just setup my first software mirror, and it wasn't too bad. I doubt that there will be much CPU overhead except durring a rebuild... |
| [23:59:00] | xris: | Led-Hed: yes. |
| [23:59:00] | xris: | and there's something about the kernel having better ability to manage simultaneous writes to multiple drives |
| [23:59:00] | Led-Hed: | and even then I never saw the rebuild use more than 1.5% |
| [23:59:00] | xris: | I'm talking speed, not cpu overhead |
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