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| [00:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | otherwise | ps -ef| grep mythbackend and look for the PID thatthey are all children of |
| [00:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | normally it's the lowest but not always |
| [00:00:00] | mmurphy: | what about /sbin/service mythbackend stop |
| [00:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | that might very well work for your distro. I couldn't say specifically |
| [00:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | one way to find out :) |
| [00:01:00] | mmurphy: | ok thanks :-P |
| [00:01:00] | mmurphy: | say its stopped |
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| [00:24:00] | FunkyELF: | does anyone here know php? |
| [00:24:00] | sphing: | ... yes |
| [00:26:00] | FunkyELF: | I want it so that it says file://192.168.1.208/sambashare/somefile.nuv instead of http://192.168.1.208:8080/mythweb/video_dir/somefile.nuv |
| [00:26:00] | FunkyELF: | I was looking at recorded_programs.php and couldn't figure out where they are putting that url together |
| [00:26:00] | sphing: | i have absoutely no idea what your talking |
| [00:26:00] | sphing: | about |
| [00:26:00] | sphing: | you said php... not mythweb |
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| [00:27:00] | FunkyELF: | right...mythweb is written in php |
| [00:27:00] | sphing: | right |
| [00:27:00] | sphing: | i dont know mythweb |
| [00:27:00] | sphing: | i know php |
| [00:27:00] | FunkyELF: | sphing, do you have mythweb installed? |
| [00:27:00] | sphing: | no |
| [00:28:00] | kormoc: | FunkyELF, it's cause mythweb has the videodir there with instructions for you to link it to your recordings |
| [00:28:00] | kormoc: | FunkyELF, cause mythweb can't really figure that out for you |
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| [00:28:00] | FunkyELF: | kormoc, I didn't see those instructions....where are they? I had an empty mythweb/video_dir/ |
| [00:28:00] | FunkyELF: | actually, there was one .keep file in there, but that was it |
| [00:29:00] | kormoc: | uhh, let me check |
| [00:29:00] | mmurphy: | can someone tell me the ivtv-utils command to find version number? |
| [00:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | ivtvctl -V |
| [00:30:00] | kormoc: | FunkyELF, ooh, it's been changed. |
| [00:30:00] | ** kormoc peers at things ** | |
| [00:31:00] | mmurphy: | sweet .. i have ivtv: version 0.1.10 (0.1.10pre2-ck108k) |
| [00:31:00] | mmurphy: | and that is what i need for a pvr150 card |
| [00:31:00] | mmurphy: | thanks GreyFoxx |
| [00:31:00] | kormoc: | FunkyELF, check your config/conf.php file |
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| [00:31:00] | kormoc: | near the bottom, there should be a like akin to |
| [00:31:00] | kormoc: | # define('video_url', video_dir); |
| [00:31:00] | mmurphy: | can someone comfirm? |
| [00:31:00] | ShockValu: | gah, how do i kill my ghost? |
| [00:32:00] | kormoc: | you can uncommnet it (remove the #) and set it to say |
| [00:32:00] | kormoc: | define('video_url', '../sambashare'); |
| [00:32:00] | kormoc: | which should do what you want |
| [00:33:00] | kormoc: | or just do define('video_dir', '../sambashare'); |
| [00:33:00] | ShockValu: | ok, what am i doing wrong here.. I'm trying to rip a DVD to my hard drive.. I put in the disk, hit "go".. it works for like 20 minutes and dumps some temp files in my /media/Video directory, but then when it's done, there are no files and nothing listed in video... |
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| [00:33:00] | kormoc: | ShockValu, /msg nickserv ghost nick password |
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| [00:34:00] | ShockValu: | i must be on a weird mirror.. no such nick " nickserv |
| [00:34:00] | mmurphy: | can somone confirm that i need ivtv: version 0.1.10 for a pvr150? |
| [00:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | I think it's disconnected/split at the moment |
| [00:34:00] | ShockValu: | ah, i see |
| [00:35:00] | ShockValu: | anything obvious that I'm doing wrong trying to rip a dvd? |
| [00:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | mmurphy: No, you need a recent 0.2.0 at least, but a recent 0.3.x or 0.4.0 is likely the better choice |
| [00:35:00] | mmurphy: | really ... |
| [00:35:00] | mmurphy: | dam |
| [00:35:00] | mmurphy: | how am i going to get that :-( |
| [00:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | You obviously have net access |
| [00:36:00] | FunkyELF: | kormoc, thanks...I think that'll work. Now I just need to associate .nuv files with the right program. |
| [00:36:00] | FunkyELF: | time to reboot since windows crapped out on me |
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| [00:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | mmurphy: Most distros have packages for it, or you can just go download and compile it yourself |
| [00:37:00] | mmurphy: | GreyFoxx: yes ... sorry im a newbie, using Jarod's howto .. and im still on fc2 |
| [00:37:00] | mmurphy: | so its a custom kernel |
| [00:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can likely still install a package of it |
| [00:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | or just compile your own |
| [00:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't know what is or isn't in Jarods guide |
| [00:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I'm sure it would cover getting the ivtv drivers |
| [00:38:00] | mmurphy: | well its a matter of upgrate to the newest drivers .. i might have to compile it |
| [00:40:00] | mmurphy: | hmm ... i get an error while installing ivtv package: file conflict: /lib/modules/ivtv-fw-enc.bin |
| [00:40:00] | mmurphy: | do i have to stop/remove something firs? |
| [00:40:00] | mmurphy: | first |
| [00:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | no |
| [00:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | But it wouldn;t hurt to unload the ivtv modules first |
| [00:41:00] | mmurphy: | good idea ... |
| [00:41:00] | mmurphy: | how does one do that? |
| [00:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | that file is the firmware that gets loaded on the card. You can't use it without it |
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| [00:43:00] | mmurphy: | make sence can't overright that file if its in use ... so how do i unload the ivtv modules? |
| [00:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | man rmmod |
| [00:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | And or all I know you have a script for auto loading and removal. |
| [00:44:00] | mmurphy: | should i use modprobe -r? |
| [00:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | rmmod = modprobe -r |
| [00:45:00] | mmurphy: | so modprobe -r ivtv |
| [00:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | depending on the version you are running that might be all you need to do |
| [00:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | older versions have several modules loaded independantly |
| [00:46:00] | mmurphy: | hmmm ok |
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| [00:51:00] | mmurphy: | GreyFoxx: if i modprobe -l | grep ivtv ... i get 2 results ... video/ivtv-fb.ko and video/ivtv.ko |
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| [00:54:00] | mmurphy: | and i can't modprobe -r ivtv as it says FATAL: Module ivtv is in use. |
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| [00:55:00] | mmurphy: | anyway to stop it? |
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| [00:59:00] | ShockValue: | there we go |
| [01:01:00] | ShockValue: | god its hard to stay at work when its so dead and im the only one here |
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| [01:02:00] | Rince: | evening |
| [01:02:00] | Rince: | question: how can I install a second myth-frontend box (or better. everything on my laptop)? where exactly can I configure how to find the backupserver for the streams? |
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| [01:07:00] | mchou: | Rince: it's all documented on the mythtv.org site |
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| [01:13:00] | mmurphy: | anyone here give me a hand? ivtv probblem specifically |
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| [01:16:00] | Rince: | great :) |
| [01:17:00] | Rince: | mchou: sorry; I use mythtv for now two years just with one machine. Since my TV died this week I currently use my laptop |
| [01:17:00] | Rince: | and I thought I would only need the mythfrontend-Package from debian |
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| [01:18:00] | mchou: | I dont know about debian pkgs, but generally better to compile from source :) |
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| [01:19:00] | mmurphy: | mchou: if i compile from source ... |
| [01:20:00] | mmurphy: | do i have to unload the current ivtv drivers/firmware first? |
| [01:20:00] | mchou: | mmurphy: that last statement wasnt meant fo you specifically. |
| [01:20:00] | Rince: | mchou: well – it works :) |
| [01:20:00] | mchou: | for* |
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| [01:21:00] | mmurphy: | mchou: no i know ... but im thinking about doing that |
| [01:21:00] | mchou: | mmurphy: what's your issue w/ivtv? |
| [01:22:00] | mmurphy: | well i have 0.1.10 and im told that isn't compatiable with the pvr150 i want to put it ... |
| [01:22:00] | mchou: | lol, that's ancient |
| [01:22:00] | mmurphy: | and when i use the packages to update i get: file conflict: /lib/modules/ivtv-fw-enc.bin |
| [01:23:00] | mmurphy: | and when i try to modprobe -r ivtv i get FATAL: Module ivtv is in use. |
| [01:23:00] | mchou: | what distro is this? |
| [01:23:00] | mmurphy: | fc2 |
| [01:23:00] | mchou: | fc2 came w/ivtv0.1.10? |
| [01:23:00] | mmurphy: | i don't think so ... |
| [01:23:00] | mmurphy: | i would have added it |
| [01:24:00] | mchou: | mmurphy: the file conflict for the firmware can be ignored. |
| [01:24:00] | mmurphy: | well thats stops the apt-get install |
| [01:24:00] | mchou: | it just needs to be there is all. |
| [01:24:00] | Rince: | mchou: another question: if the picture is far too bright (on the second frontend); where can I change the brightness? Is there a way to do this via mythtv and its setup or do I have to change the brightness of the laptops LCD? |
| [01:24:00] | mchou: | Rince: gah!! RTFM |
| [01:24:00] | mchou: | Rince: keys.txt |
| [01:24:00] | Rince: | I just went through it |
| [01:26:00] | mchou: | mmurphy: I dunno about apt, just "rpm -Uvh --force" :) |
| [01:26:00] | mchou: | or better yet, compile 0.4 from source |
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| [01:26:00] | mmurphy: | mchou: if i compile from the source i don't have any of these issues? |
| [01:27:00] | mchou: | mmurphy: lol, I didnt say that :) |
| [01:27:00] | mchou: | you'd have other issues :) |
| [01:27:00] | mmurphy: | ha ha .. dam like what? |
| [01:27:00] | mchou: | try it any find out |
| [01:27:00] | mmurphy: | o ok ... |
| [01:27:00] | mmurphy: | one second |
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| [01:28:00] | mmurphy: | mchou: should i remove the package with rpm first? |
| [01:28:00] | mchou: | yup |
| [01:29:00] | mchou: | especially the 0.10 version |
| [01:29:00] | mchou: | or whatever. |
| [01:29:00] | mmurphy: | ok here it goes |
| [01:30:00] | mmurphy: | well that wan't great |
| [01:31:00] | mmurphy: | dam what was the command to see what ivtv ackages ihave installed ... |
| [01:32:00] | mchou: | rpm -qa | grep ivtv |
| [01:32:00] | mmurphy: | ok |
| [01:32:00] | Juski: | NightMonkey.. you around tonight fella? |
| [01:32:00] | mmurphy: | and what about when i compile 0.04.stable ... do i need to worry about kernel header packages? |
| [01:33:00] | mchou: | mmurphy: you need kernel source |
| [01:33:00] | mchou: | for your running kernel |
| [01:33:00] | mmurphy: | ha and where do i get those? |
| [01:34:00] | mchou: | mmurphy: this is not a linux support channel |
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| [01:34:00] | mmurphy: | o ok |
| [01:34:00] | Juski: | s'okay NM.. I remembered it myself :) |
| [01:35:00] | mmurphy: | you mean i need the source for my kernel |
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| [01:44:00] | Lightning: | evening |
| [01:45:00] | mchou: | hmm, 300GB seagate drive on sale for $90 |
| [01:46:00] | Juski: | $90?! |
| [01:46:00] | mchou: | yup |
| [01:46:00] | mchou: | PATA |
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| [01:46:00] | Juski: | I dont care if it IS seagate.. that's a mighty fine price |
| [01:46:00] | mmurphy: | mabey someone can answer me this ... i just update to the newest version of mythv and my theme G.A.N.T in kinda wonkey ... i switch themes, the other one seems fine, but still have G.A.N.T buttons in Utilies/Setup > Setup and the Exit Myth Screen |
| [01:46:00] | mmurphy: | and idead? |
| [01:46:00] | Juski: | we got 300GB Wd drives here for er.. £90 |
| [01:46:00] | mchou: | Juski: nah, it could be lower :) |
| [01:47:00] | mchou: | Juski: where you from? |
| [01:47:00] | Juski: | I discovered a bit of a problem with a ** HDD today... put it on an anti-static mat to clone it, and it doesn't work... turn it upside down & it does... a Maxtor Maxline III drive works both ways up |
| [01:47:00] | Juski: | mchou – manchester, UK |
| [01:48:00] | mchou: | Juski: haha |
| [01:48:00] | mchou: | upside down drive works :) |
| [01:48:00] | Juski: | sod it – the other drive – the one that doesn't work the right way up is a brand new WD |
| [01:48:00] | mchou: | haha |
| [01:49:00] | Juski: | I think it's because the head connections are too close to the base of the body of the drive |
| [01:49:00] | Juski: | either way I'm not impressed |
| [01:49:00] | mchou: | lol, no kidding |
| [01:49:00] | mchou: | return and get another |
| [01:49:00] | Juski: | ermmm.. the whole box of 20, from a full pallet were doing it |
| [01:49:00] | mchou: | really?? |
| [01:50:00] | Juski: | really! |
| [01:50:00] | Juski: | WD3200SB |
| [01:50:00] | mchou: | wow, I guess I'm not buying WD any more |
| [01:50:00] | Juski: | looking fwd to work on Monday... getting my hands on the new Maxtor 500GB model :D |
| [01:50:00] | mchou: | SB? is that SATA? |
| [01:50:00] | Juski: | nah – PATA |
| [01:51:00] | Juski: | we only use PIO mode4 for the kit we make |
| [01:51:00] | mchou: | what the hell is an SB? there is JB and BB |
| [01:51:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Sorry, was away. What's the haps? |
| [01:52:00] | Juski: | no problem NightMonkey – was just trying to remember that emerge command you told me last night.. sorted it now.. re-emerging everything to take the new USE into account :) |
| [01:52:00] | Juski: | SB & BB are different bearing types & cache size I think |
| [01:52:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Cool beans. |
| [01:53:00] | Juski: | I still couldn't get apache to work, even when I've (I think) comprehended the changes to config files.. so re-emerging just to be sure |
| [01:53:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Did you ask for assistance in #gentoo-apache? |
| [01:54:00] | Juski: | I'll wait til it's all emerged & try again before I start whining again |
| [01:54:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Cooler beans. |
| [01:54:00] | ** Juski hates looking like a noob who didn't RTFM ** | |
| [01:54:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Happens to the best of us ;). |
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| [01:55:00] | mchou: | oh god!! |
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| [01:55:00] | mchou: | "Im attempting to run 350 miles non-stop" |
| [01:55:00] | Juski: | found out something I didn't know today... HDDs have the same number of 1s and 0s on them no matter what the data.. must explain why a full HDD is no heavier than an empty one |
| [01:55:00] | mchou: | some ppl are crazy! |
| [01:56:00] | Juski: | some? I'm starting to think that only the sane people in the world are using Linux lol |
| [01:56:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: You're kidding, right? |
| [01:56:00] | Juski: | of course lol |
| [01:56:00] | ** NightMonkey hopes ** | |
| [01:57:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Whew. Sorry, no emoticons... |
| [01:57:00] | Juski: | one of our sales folks had a chat with me about some of the questions she gets from customers the other day |
| [01:57:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Where'd you see that joke? I hope it wasn't a Gentoo user :D. |
| [01:58:00] | Juski: | they're the kind of people we're trying to sell IP-based CCTV DVRs to.. god help us |
| [01:59:00] | Juski: | it put my 'bad days' into perspective I can tell you |
| [01:59:00] | Lightning: | any benefit to having a video card with a DVI connect? |
| [01:59:00] | jd86: | I have one of those cheapo hauppague cards (along with a pvr150 thats working).. does anyone have any experiance making them work? i need more then one tuner. |
| [01:59:00] | Lightning: | currently using s-video |
| [01:59:00] | Juski: | Lightning.. depends what you're planning to connect it to |
| [02:00:00] | Lightning: | Juski, am i to take that answer as the newer hdtv's doing the dvi connect? |
| [02:00:00] | Juski: | if you've got an LCD or plasma that'll take DVI.. go with the DVI man! |
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| [02:00:00] | Lightning: | what do the newer hdtv's use though? |
| [02:00:00] | Juski: | HDMI or DVI |
| [02:00:00] | Juski: | or both |
| [02:01:00] | Juski: | you can adapt from DVI to HDMI quite easily too |
| [02:01:00] | Lightning: | k |
| [02:02:00] | Juski: | try to avoid the 'emperors new cables' if you can tho ;) |
| [02:03:00] | Juski: | $150 DVI leads.. perrrrlease |
| [02:03:00] | Lightning: | getting a price list together for a htpc box. geforce 6600 pci express x16, svideo and dvi |
| [02:03:00] | twisted_one: | Is there a way to automate the updating of mythvideo's database? |
| [02:03:00] | Juski: | I doubt you'll need PCI express |
| [02:04:00] | Lightning: | was having trouble finding an agp board that would have the slot the way i wanted |
| [02:04:00] | Lightning: | although.... hmm |
| [02:04:00] | NightMonkey: | OK, now I have a question. At some point in the future, I'll consider adding a second Dish Network source. But, I have a Shuttle, with one PCI slot (currently with a PVR-350) and one AGP 4X slot. Are there quality TV cards that are AGP? |
| [02:04:00] | NightMonkey: | Lightning: omg. Same question... Didn't see yours! |
| [02:05:00] | mchou: | Lightning: what special requiremnts you need on agp port? |
| [02:05:00] | Juski: | twisted_one: an accepted way of getting programs to run on a frequent, timed basis is called cron... look it up for your distro |
| [02:05:00] | Lightning: | mchou, the difficulty in finding a micro-atx board that does not have pci express nor agp :) |
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| [02:06:00] | Lightning: | so i can have my tuner, vid card (instead of using onboard), and sound card |
| [02:06:00] | twisted_one: | Juski: I know all about cron =P, I just dont know if there is a command I can call to update it, I've only done it via the gui and I dont see anything obvious |
| [02:06:00] | Juski: | TV-out capable cards with AGP?... loads |
| [02:06:00] | mchou: | Juski: quality? no :) |
| [02:06:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: TV-in is what I'm seeking. Mpeg-2, preferably. |
| [02:06:00] | Juski: | oh |
| [02:06:00] | Juski: | only those nvtv thingies... and they ain't even got a whiff of a linux driver yet |
| [02:07:00] | Lightning: | NightMonkey, why not upgrade the tuner to a 500? |
| [02:07:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Sorry, *converting to mpeg-2" rather. |
| [02:07:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Thanks. |
| [02:07:00] | mchou: | Juski: they probably wont ever get linux drivers |
| [02:07:00] | NightMonkey: | Lightning: Yes, I'll consider that, depending on the stability reports of ivtv at the time. |
| [02:07:00] | Juski: | I got one of the purchasing peeps @ work to ask the conexant rep for a datasheet on the cx23416 mpeg encoder for me, so i could help out the v4l guys... |
| [02:08:00] | twisted_one: | my 500 is pretty stable, its nice |
| [02:08:00] | Juski: | he came running over to me desk, horrified, saying they wanted an NDA signing before even talking about it :( |
| [02:08:00] | NightMonkey: | twisted_one: Using the latest ivtv? Cool. |
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| [02:08:00] | twisted_one: | no, actually using one that is a few months old |
| [02:08:00] | mchou: | Juski: what di you expect? |
| [02:08:00] | mchou: | did* |
| [02:09:00] | NightMonkey: | twisted_one: 0.3.9? |
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| [02:09:00] | Juski: | was worth a try, I thought... |
| [02:09:00] | twisted_one: | NightMonkey: dont know off hand and the box is down at hte moment due to a harddisk issue |
| [02:09:00] | Juski: | bloody protectionists.. they'd sell more stuff if it worked in Linux |
| [02:10:00] | Juski: | should I be worried that gcc is being emerged? |
| [02:11:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Yeah, I sent e-mails to Hauppague to make F/OSS drivers. The ivtv folks have done a tremendous job without all the specs, but it could have been so much easier... |
| [02:11:00] | Juski: | they've worked a blummin miracle is what the ivtv devs have done |
| [02:12:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: I sent Chris K. a big box of skater's duct tape as a thanks :). |
| [02:12:00] | Lightning: | hmm. found a few new motherboards i could try. wonder if i can find a different socket though besides 754... |
| [02:13:00] | Lightning: | had to alter my searching to not restrict certain things |
| [02:13:00] | Juski: | great gesture, NightMonkey.. |
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| [02:14:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: That _still_ made my MythTV box cheaper and more featureful than a Tivo. |
| [02:14:00] | Juski: | heh... did you read the story about the guy who's had three tivos in the last 12 months fail on him? a right hoot... |
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| [02:15:00] | Juski: | always have a chortle at the expense of Sky Plus users too.. bless em |
| [02:16:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: One could say Tivo is failing many more users in removing features that sold them on the box in the first place... |
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| [02:16:00] | Juski: | picture the scene... the weather's too bad to pick up the satellite signal... (it's drizzling) ... so you decide to watch something you've recorded. Oh dear. You can't ... ROFL |
| [02:16:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: But, Tivo was the first to the plate, IIRC. That does count. Just to give them the right props. |
| [02:17:00] | Juski: | they did well in the UK for a while.. I was very tempted to get one, even as far back as 1997 |
| [02:17:00] | Juski: | or was it later? anyway... it looked really good |
| [02:18:00] | Juski: | and I read recently that Sky TV have patented a means of showing you advertising while you skip past commercials (!) |
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| [02:20:00] | Lightning: | how much mem on the video card is recommended? looking at the geforce line of cards |
| [02:21:00] | Juski: | once you go past 64MB it'd be academic really |
| [02:21:00] | Juski: | maybe less |
| [02:21:00] | Juski: | unless you're gonna be playing Half Life2:source when you're not watching TV |
| [02:22:00] | Lightning: | so this card should work well then, quiet too http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814135190 |
| [02:22:00] | Juski: | memory might be a bit of overkill for mythtv, but yeh – should be fine |
| [02:23:00] | Lightning: | was more looking at the chip itself for refresh power if watching hdtv |
| [02:23:00] | mchou: | Lightning: what proc you intend to use? |
| [02:24:00] | Lightning: | amd 64 2800+. only one i saw that wasnt semptron for a 754 socket |
| [02:24:00] | Lightning: | which all the micro-atx boards are offering for amd |
| [02:24:00] | Lightning: | at least on newegg with the specs i gave |
| [02:24:00] | mchou: | Lightning: you palnning to do HDTV? |
| [02:24:00] | mchou: | panning* |
| [02:24:00] | Lightning: | not immediately, but 6 months or so, yes |
| [02:24:00] | mchou: | planning** |
| [02:25:00] | NightMonkey: | Funny how Hauppaguge now brags that their PVR cards work with "plus third party TV applications such as BeyondTV, MythTV, SageTV and Showshifter." |
| [02:25:00] | mchou: | Lightning: you might need to forget the 6200 then |
| [02:25:00] | Juski: | the ****ing cheek!!! |
| [02:25:00] | ** NightMonkey steams ** | |
| [02:25:00] | Lightning: | mchou, suggestions then? |
| [02:26:00] | Lightning: | i currently have a 6600 spec'd but looking back over my specs and seeing where it is overkill |
| [02:26:00] | Lightning: | have pci-express at the moment but seeing if i can scale back to agp |
| [02:26:00] | mchou: | Lightning: I'm not sure if that 6200 has it's own memory...... |
| [02:26:00] | mchou: | Lightning: if it doesnt look elsewhere. |
| [02:27:00] | Lightning: | i think it is the lite version that doesnt |
| [02:27:00] | Lightning: | looking on nvidia's site |
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| [02:27:00] | Juski: | they call the shared memory ones 'turbocache'.. something of a mis-nomer, no |
| [02:27:00] | mchou: | Lightning: well, if that's the case 6200 would be ok then. |
| [02:28:00] | Goldfisch2: | I'm trying to uninstall mythplugins from a SVN build. Mythfrontend keep showing the menu options. How do I get rid of them? |
| [02:28:00] | mchou: | Lightning: I suggest using a beefier proc too :) |
| [02:28:00] | NightMonkey: | bbl |
| [02:28:00] | Juski: | bye for now NightMonkey |
| [02:28:00] | jd86: | is saving shows to a network drive alright or is it too slow? |
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| [02:29:00] | kormoc: | jd86, I do it and for the most part it's fine, once in a great while samba burps |
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| [02:29:00] | Lightning: | nvidia lists ddr as memory for the 6200 with no indication that it is system memory. i know the 5xxx says it though |
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| [02:29:00] | Juski: | ahhh.. the 6200 **can** use up to 128MB of system RAM on a 512MB system... |
| [02:29:00] | Juski: | but it has its own ram |
| [02:30:00] | Lightning: | 6200 using turbo cache. found an area about onboard turbo cache so... |
| [02:30:00] | Lightning: | screw 6200 |
| [02:30:00] | kormoc: | Juski, all modern videocards can use system ram, but ya, the trick is to not get a turbo cache card. |
| [02:30:00] | Juski: | I think a 6600 won't cost too much more anyway |
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| [02:31:00] | ** Juski has never spent big bucks (i.e. more than $50) on a video card ** | |
| [02:31:00] | kormoc: | wtf is up with lilo |
| [02:31:00] | mchou: | 6600 probably has a fan, though. |
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| [02:31:00] | Lightning: | only a $60 price increase to 6600GT |
| [02:31:00] | Lightning: | :P |
| [02:31:00] | mchou: | how much is a 6600gt? |
| [02:32:00] | Lightning: | $134 on newegg. of course they have a 6600GT for $96 in pci-express model |
| [02:32:00] | mchou: | oh, Karl Rove testified for the 4th time?? |
| [02:32:00] | Lightning: | cheaper motherboard by going with agp, more for the vid card |
| [02:32:00] | Juski: | so hang on... is there a definitive list of specs you need for HD? I've read so much conflicting stuff.. someone saying they were playing HD on a 1.8Ghz pentium on a Nvidia FX4 – others saying you needed >3Ghz and a $200 card... |
| [02:32:00] | mchou: | Lightning: linky to pci-e? |
| [02:33:00] | Lightning: | http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814145123 |
| [02:33:00] | Lightning: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814135186 |
| [02:33:00] | Lightning: | pci then agp |
| [02:34:00] | Lightning: | pci-e is cheaper than agp... oh well |
| [02:34:00] | mchou: | hmm, that looks like a good deal..... |
| [02:34:00] | Lightning: | that limits me to 1 motherboard if i do pci-e (due to pci slot layout for the case) |
| [02:34:00] | Juski: | there must be some micro-Atx boards with pci express by now |
| [02:34:00] | Lightning: | Juski, there are |
| [02:34:00] | mchou: | sure there are. |
| [02:35:00] | Lightning: | http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813130513 |
| [02:35:00] | mchou: | see them all the time. |
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| [02:35:00] | Lightning: | my catch is that the box i want to use can not have pci-e x1 on it (as that sits next to the pci-e slot and throws the positions off) |
| [02:35:00] | Lightning: | that board doesnt have pci-e x1 on it |
| [02:35:00] | Juski: | I'm gonna get a shock the next time I go to build a PC aren't I? lol |
| [02:35:00] | Lightning: | i dont care for the ati chipset though |
| [02:35:00] | mchou: | Lightning: what box is this? |
| [02:36:00] | Juski: | don't say it's a Silverstone LC-02 |
| [02:36:00] | Lightning: | no, the lc-11 |
| [02:36:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [02:36:00] | Juski: | jesus my EPIA board almost overheats in my LC-02 |
| [02:36:00] | Juski: | well it used to ;) |
| [02:36:00] | Lightning: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811163040 |
| [02:37:00] | Juski: | sure you can FIT a fullsize board in there... keeping it working needs liquid nitrogen though |
| [02:37:00] | Lightning: | the catch is that it uses a riser card to rotate all the cards, and that riser card wont work if the pci slots are not next to a pci-e x16 or agp |
| [02:37:00] | Lightning: | i like the look though, works well for sitting around the tv |
| [02:37:00] | Juski: | yeh the LC-02 has the same issues with slot placement |
| [02:38:00] | Juski: | the trouble I had finding a board with the slots in the right place – sheesh |
| [02:39:00] | Lightning: | Juski, that is why i was looking at motherboards i could use. i could go with the agp boards but the price goes higher for the vid card. i'm not sure if the pci-e is really needed though |
| [02:39:00] | Lightning: | i could save $50 off the motherboard otherwise |
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| [02:40:00] | mchou: | I'd vote agp |
| [02:40:00] | Lightning: | hmm. but does a board exist with agp and 3 sata |
| [02:41:00] | Juski: | I've seen flexi-cables for strange form factor PCs... wonder if you can get em for pci express yet |
| [02:42:00] | Lightning: | apparently i cant get agp and 4 sata (2 for hd, 1 for burner) |
| [02:43:00] | Juski: | sata burner? |
| [02:43:00] | Lightning: | Juski, of course. plextor dvd burner :) |
| [02:43:00] | ** Juski is out of touch with hardware now ** | |
| [02:43:00] | Juski: | so erm.. do these boards have any PATA at all? |
| [02:43:00] | Lightning: | yes |
| [02:44:00] | Lightning: | i could do 2 sata and get a pata burner |
| [02:44:00] | Juski: | not even played with sata yet |
| [02:45:00] | Chutt: | i'd just wait and get a nforce 430/geforce 6150 |
| [02:46:00] | Lightning: | $758 for micro-atx motherboard with 4 sata and pci-e, 6600 geforce, amd 64 2800+, 512MB mem, 2 seagate 250MB drives, 1 plextor data dvd burner (716SA), turtle beach tbs-3300 (optical in/out spdif) |
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| [02:47:00] | Lightning: | thoughts? |
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| [02:47:00] | Chutt: | http://usa.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3&l . . . ;modelmenu=1 |
| [02:48:00] | ** Lightning looks puzzled as to why that doesnt show up in his list of boards ** | |
| [02:48:00] | Lightning: | ah, i see why, 2 pci |
| [02:48:00] | Chutt: | it's not available yet |
| [02:49:00] | Lightning: | the case i want needs 3 (the 3rd is for the riser card) |
| [02:49:00] | Chutt: | get a non-crappy case :p |
| [02:49:00] | Lightning: | i like that case |
| [02:49:00] | Lightning: | and it isnt a big box sitting around the tv |
| [02:50:00] | Chutt: | it's going to be loud. |
| [02:50:00] | Lightning: | and what case would work well that would not be loud but wouldnt stand out either? |
| [02:50:00] | Lightning: | want something that 1/2 looks like it belonds without looking like a pc sitting there |
| [02:51:00] | Chutt: | that board work work, though, going by their pictures |
| [02:51:00] | Lightning: | 3 pci, 1 agp or pci-e |
| [02:51:00] | Lightning: | pci-e x16 |
| [02:51:00] | Chutt: | err, not according to silverstone's page |
| [02:52:00] | Juski: | that's the beauty of mythtv over every other pvr platform, open source or not... you can have a pretty, silent frontend under the TV... while the boss PC sits in a back room somewhere |
| [02:52:00] | Chutt: | seriously, though, 2 case fans, a cpu fan, and something in the power supply |
| [02:52:00] | Chutt: | that's going to be loud :p |
| [02:53:00] | Juski: | if my experience with the LC02 case is anything to go by I wouldn't trust the LC11 |
| [02:53:00] | Lightning: | hmm, where was it i read that 3 pci was needed then. thought it was on their site i read that |
| [02:53:00] | Chutt: | their site says: The AGP or PCI Express X16 slot on your Micro ATX motherboard must be in the first expansion slot position. The first two PCI slots should be in the second and third expansion slots. |
| [02:54:00] | Chutt: | that matches that asus board, though of course you wouldn't likely be using the pci-e slot |
| [02:55:00] | Chutt: | but, i'd look for a case with fewer fans |
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| [02:58:00] | Lightning: | the difficulty i have is finding something that isnt 7" tall |
| [02:59:00] | Chutt: | remember that the pvr cards produce a ton of heat, too |
| [02:59:00] | briand: | Juski — got a question for ya... |
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| [03:00:00] | Chutt: | i've got an antec aria (cube case), but it sits nicely on top of my sub and the gamecube sits on top of that |
| [03:00:00] | briand: | on the board (mythtvtalk), someone asked about PiP, and you stated that with four tuners you could have 3 PiP .... |
| [03:00:00] | Chutt: | only has 2 fans – one 80mm cpu fan and one 120mm power supply fan |
| [03:00:00] | briand: | how? I have 3 tuners, and can only get one PiP popup |
| [03:00:00] | Chutt: | thing's near silent, and certainly quieter than my projector. |
| [03:01:00] | Lightning: | Chutt, link? and atx or micro? |
| [03:01:00] | Chutt: | microatx |
| [03:01:00] | Chutt: | google :p |
| [03:01:00] | Chutt: | it wouldn't fit in my component rack, but that's ok |
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| [03:05:00] | Juski: | briand.. go ahead |
| [03:05:00] | Juski: | oops |
| [03:06:00] | Juski: | I don't remember ever saying you could have 3 PIP |
| [03:06:00] | Juski: | this is about livetv again isn't it? la la la la |
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| [03:07:00] | briand: | someone with 4 tuners asked if he could have 4 PiP, and you said (I think it was you) that no, he could only have 3 — one livetv, 3 PiP |
| [03:07:00] | teevee: | why does mythtv keep setting my volume down to 70? |
| [03:07:00] | Juski: | briand.. was this about the guy who wanted to watch 4 channels at the same time? |
| [03:07:00] | briand: | i guess. |
| [03:07:00] | Juski: | haha I remember that well |
| [03:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | I didn't know you could have more than 1 pip window at a time |
| [03:07:00] | briand: | i was just wondering if i'm missing a hidden keystroke somewhere |
| [03:07:00] | Juski: | AFAIK you can only have the one |
| [03:08:00] | briand: | it'd be nice to hit 'V' for the first one, then 'V' again, etc.. and keep getting PiP until you were at N-1 tuners, then cycle 'em all off. |
| [03:08:00] | Juski: | buy a video quad :) |
| [03:08:00] | teevee: | where is that preset volume configured? |
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| [03:09:00] | Juski: | briand.. it'd be nice if the PC also washed the dishes.. but it doesn't ;) |
| [03:09:00] | Juski: | we get some crazy questions over there sometimes |
| [03:10:00] | briand: | yes, i've noticed. ;) |
| [03:10:00] | Juski: | teevee – have you ever read any documentation? |
| [03:10:00] | thechris: | is it possible to set the buffer size on a client computer so the video stops skipping |
| [03:10:00] | teevee: | Juski: yes |
| [03:10:00] | briand: | oh, wait just one cotton-pickin' minute!! you mean to imply that it WON'T do the dishes??? hmph. |
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| [03:10:00] | bomba_: | just got a new satellite radio |
| [03:10:00] | bomba_: | I can pause my radio now for 44 minutes |
| [03:11:00] | bomba_: | its portable too so I have it running in the cradle on my desk right now |
| [03:11:00] | teevee: | Juski: i'm still new to myth and I don't feel it necessary to read ALL of the documentation just to find one feature |
| [03:11:00] | briand: | I can pause my tv for about a week and a half. |
| [03:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | teevee: Settings, General. Thought I gotta admit mine never resets back to what is set there. It's always at what I previously had it on |
| [03:12:00] | bomba_: | briand: I can do better I bet! |
| [03:12:00] | teevee: | GreyFoxx: ok i'll check it out |
| [03:12:00] | bomba_: | if I deleted every modern marvel, good eats and family guy ever |
| [03:12:00] | Juski: | oh dear, teevee |
| [03:12:00] | thechris: | now the skipping is extreme |
| [03:12:00] | teevee: | GreyFoxx: maybe something else is going on |
| [03:12:00] | thechris: | i can't beleive its a hardware issue either |
| [03:12:00] | teevee: | Juski: bleh :) |
| [03:12:00] | thechris: | 3 second pauses are not "minor glitches" |
| [03:12:00] | thechris: | especially on Gbe |
| [03:12:00] | teevee: | thechris: i get pauses whenever it runs mythfilldatabase |
| [03:12:00] | briand: | bomba_: you have more than 6.8T of video buffer? |
| [03:13:00] | bomba_: | hmm, only 1TB :( |
| [03:13:00] | thechris: | teevee: i get it all the time |
| [03:13:00] | thechris: | well, actually randomly |
| [03:13:00] | thechris: | but at any time it feels like |
| [03:13:00] | teevee: | thechris: i get it whenever I hold in arrow keys in the menus |
| [03:13:00] | bomba_: | briand: I never said at what bitrate! |
| [03:14:00] | thechris: | teevee: my menus work fine |
| [03:14:00] | thechris: | and mplayer plays the vids fine |
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| [03:14:00] | teevee: | thechris: i have a feeling it's my slow S3 Unichrome video at 1280x1024 |
| [03:14:00] | teevee: | thechris: because a 2.8 GHz celeron D shouldn't have any problem |
| [03:14:00] | briand: | bomba_: oh, well... then i can set it to extremely low quality and go for months... |
| [03:14:00] | thechris: | would the server's video card have any impact on a clients video playvack |
| [03:15:00] | briand: | bomba_: ..but i keep it at 2.2G/hr, for the most part. |
| [03:15:00] | briand: | thechris: the same effect your neighbor's automobile engine has on the performance of your car. |
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| [03:15:00] | Juski: | lol briand |
| [03:16:00] | briand: | ;) |
| [03:16:00] | thechris: | well, my client video card is a 6800 |
| [03:16:00] | thechris: | nvidia |
| [03:17:00] | Juski: | what speed is your network, thechris? |
| [03:17:00] | thechris: | gigabit |
| [03:17:00] | bomba_: | 516 programs, using 893 GB (418 hrs 24 mins) out of 950 GB (99 GB free). |
| [03:17:00] | thechris: | directly connected |
| [03:17:00] | bomba_: | briand: you must have even a bigger problem w/ mythweb being slow |
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| [03:18:00] | Juski: | bomba_ you need to watch some TV |
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| [03:20:00] | teevee: | GreyFoxx: it was the master volume setting |
| [03:20:00] | teevee: | GreyFoxx: it was setting it to whatever was there, like 70 |
| [03:20:00] | Juski: | briand.. I found the thread.. it was majortom99 who claimed you could run more than one PiP window |
| [03:20:00] | Juski: | http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php . . . ighlight=pip |
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| [03:21:00] | Juski: | I guess you might be able to run 4 instances of mythfrontend in window mode (eew) |
| [03:21:00] | Chutt: | pip is just a toy feature |
| [03:21:00] | teevee: | i'd rather have four monitors |
| [03:21:00] | teevee: | or even four computers |
| [03:21:00] | Chutt: | people use it once, then never again |
| [03:22:00] | teevee: | just like composite in xorg ;) |
| [03:22:00] | Chutt: | the state of development of pip in myth reflects that |
| [03:22:00] | Juski: | I've only ever used it to quickly verify both my tuners work |
| [03:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's what I use to use it for when I had 2 tuners and was changing hardware/.drivers around :) |
| [03:22:00] | Juski: | chutt: good :) |
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| [03:23:00] | briand: | i might use it on an occasional saturday afternoon, when I want to follow 2 or 3 college football games at once... |
| [03:23:00] | briand: | other than that, I'd probably never use it |
| [03:24:00] | Juski: | record the other games, then watch them one after the other.. more beer... more beer! |
| [03:24:00] | briand: | heheheh |
| [03:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe Televised Sports = No in this house heh |
| [03:25:00] | Juski: | I wish |
| [03:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | I love to play, but it will be acold day in hell before I sit there and watch someone else get paid a ton of cash to play it unless I'm actually live at the event |
| [03:26:00] | briand: | i don't watch pro football very often... |
| [03:26:00] | briand: | and the college kids don't get (well, aren't supposed to get!) paid to play |
| [03:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
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| [03:27:00] | briand: | i have been to dozens and dozens of home games here... |
| [03:27:00] | Juski: | the way terrestrial TV is going with sports here in the Uk all we'll be left with is pro-celebrity ping-pong |
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| [03:28:00] | briand: | and, while it's fun and all... the line for the bathroom is considerably shorter here at home, and the seating is more comfortable. |
| [03:28:00] | Juski: | and the beer's cheaper.. yay! |
| [03:29:00] | briand: | and more plentiful — you can't have/buy beer at the stadium (on campus) |
| [03:29:00] | Juski: | saying that you can't drink at football (soccer) games in the UK |
| [03:29:00] | briand: | the only time you can (legally) watch FSU live from the stands with a beer in your hand is when they're playing at Alltel stadium in Jacksonville (which they've done a few times in the past) |
| [03:30:00] | Juski: | any of you guys watch 'the daily show' ? |
| [03:30:00] | briand: | i haven't seen it in a while, but i used to watch it occasionaly |
| [03:30:00] | Juski: | video quality of it here looks like it's been transferred onto VHS |
| [03:30:00] | briand: | er, occasionally. :) |
| [03:31:00] | Juski: | been used to almost DVD quality TV for so long now it really showed |
| [03:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: I record it everyday :) |
| [03:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | I stream it to my office and several people watch it :) |
| [03:32:00] | Juski: | does it go down well? I was surprised at the satire, especially considering where it comes from |
| [03:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | what do you mean go down well ? |
| [03:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | do people accept his anti-bush humour ? |
| [03:33:00] | Juski: | is it popular? |
| [03:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | Very popular |
| [03:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | anti-bush humor? where! |
| [03:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [03:33:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [03:34:00] | Juski: | I just watched the edition where he talks about Bush & the polar ice melting... "the water is being liberated" |
| [03:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont watch the daily show |
| [03:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I usto watch it cause of colbert but they dont give him enough airtime |
| [03:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | Juski: hehe yeah |
| [03:35:00] | xris: | SlicerDicer-: you should like monday, then |
| [03:36:00] | Juski: | it's not anywhere near as scathing as the British satire shows, but that's not saying it's no good :) |
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| [03:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | I like it. But then in general I agree with most of the politics of the show |
| [03:37:00] | xris: | GreyFoxx: daily show has politics?!?! ;) |
| [03:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | Just a wee bit :) |
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| [03:42:00] | thechris: | colbert was funnier a few years ago |
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| [03:48:00] | |rt|: | hey guys I have audio studdering and a pitch shift....anyone know how to go about getting to the bottom of it? |
| [03:48:00] | |rt|: | it's in livetv...only fix is rebooting |
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| [05:09:00] | mishehu: | hmm... anybody come across a dvd that they can't view even with libdvdcss? |
| [05:09:00] | mishehu: | Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_06_1.VOB (0x0039aa35)!! |
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| [05:15:00] | Cloak: | what's the tick to getting mdz's packages working with mysql-server-4.1... i'm getting a weird error telling me to upgrade my client |
| [05:15:00] | Cloak: | it looks like the version of the mysql libs is coming from libqt3-mt-mysql but before i rebuilt all of libqt3 i was hoping someone else had a simliar problem |
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| [05:19:00] | mishehu: | Cloak: I've had to rebuild the qt3 mysql modules before because of a the same problem on my distro |
| [05:19:00] | mishehu: | qt came built against mysql 4.0 instead of 4.1. |
| [05:20:00] | Cloak: | heh, my poor p3 750 |
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| [05:21:00] | Cloak: | is there any reason the mythtv stuff is only ever made for unstable and not stable? |
| [05:25:00] | ShockValue: | probably because its always under heavy development.. and its version number is 0.18 :) |
| [05:26:00] | Cloak: | yeah, that's cute and all but unstable is the OS not the app |
| [05:27:00] | Cloak: | debian unstable is barely usable for anything these days, seems painful to be so bleeding edge |
| [05:29:00] | Cloak: | kk, for those who's interested |
| [05:29:00] | Cloak: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . rver;#154662 |
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| [05:32:00] | ** kormoc laughs at debian unstable being so bleeding edge. ** | |
| [05:38:00] | ShockValue: | anyone use xine for dvd playback? im interested in the post-proccessing capabilies |
| [05:38:00] | ShockValue: | like, where do i find where to use them :) |
| [05:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey kormoc |
| [05:41:00] | kormoc: | mornin' |
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| [05:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | question for ya |
| [05:41:00] | qfx: | Hello hello |
| [05:41:00] | qfx: | anyone ever get an ATI 8500DV working? |
| [05:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | have you ever seen mythfrontend crash and just say 'killed" |
| [05:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats all it says |
| [05:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nothing more nothing less |
| [05:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I play one video when its done I start the second one it always crashes |
| [05:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | always at the second video I play no matter what it is |
| [05:42:00] | kormoc: | yeah, I have seen that before, and it's always gone away after I recompile myth |
| [05:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I recompiled last night |
| [05:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what are your useflags? |
| [05:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | [ebuild R ] media-tv/mythtv-0.18.1-r2 +alsa (-altivec) +arts -debug -dvb -frontendonly -ieee1394 -jack -joystick -lcd +lirc -mmx +nvidia +opengl +oss -unichrome +vorbis 0 kB |
| [05:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats what mine are |
| [05:44:00] | kormoc: | mine are |
| [05:44:00] | qfx: | how do you know what your use flags are? |
| [05:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | qfx, you use gentoo? |
| [05:44:00] | ShockValue: | mine crashes occasionally. but never related to one thing or anothe r(i think its heat related) |
| [05:44:00] | kormoc: | +alsa -arts -debug -dvb -frontendonly -ieee1394 -jack -joystick -lcd -lirc +mmx +nvidia +opengl -oss -unichrome +vorbis |
| [05:45:00] | ShockValue: | [ebuild R ] media-tv/mythtv-0.18.1-r2 +alsa (-altivec) -arts -debug -dvb -frontendonly -ieee1394 -jack -joystick -lcd +lirc +mmx +nvidia* +opengl -oss -unichrome +vorbis 0 kB |
| [05:45:00] | kormoc: | qfx, emerge -pv package_name |
| [05:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hmm ShockValue looks like you need a remerge :) |
| [05:45:00] | kormoc: | ShockValue, the * means it's a updated flag and is not currently compiled in, btw |
| [05:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, HAHA!!! I beat thee to thy punch! |
| [05:46:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [05:46:00] | kormoc: | indeed :P |
| [05:46:00] | ShockValue: | yeah i know.. for some reason mine looks like crap with nvidia compiled in.. so i use it on the rest of my box, just not mythtv |
| [05:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, perhaps arts? |
| [05:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cause arts is a peice of well you know |
| [05:46:00] | ShockValue: | arts = teh suck |
| [05:46:00] | kormoc: | Shdwdrgn, so disable it for mythtv |
| [05:46:00] | kormoc: | erm, that was to ShockValue |
| [05:46:00] | kormoc: | ShockValue, type this |
| [05:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont even know why I have arts on there |
| [05:47:00] | kormoc: | echo "media-tv/mythtv -nvidia" >> /etc/portage/package.use |
| [05:47:00] | kormoc: | ShockValue, so myth will never compile with the nvidia flag |
| [05:47:00] | ShockValue: | kormoc: its just as easy to #USE="-nvidia" emerge mythtv |
| [05:48:00] | kormoc: | ShockValue, but when you update world, you need to remember that |
| [05:48:00] | ShockValue: | im invincible |
| [05:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | key kormoc do you know if a AMD 1.4ghz thunderbird has mmx? |
| [05:48:00] | ** rjune is away: sleep ** | |
| [05:48:00] | kormoc: | ShockValue, it's much simplier to just set the package use flag and let it do it's thing |
| [05:48:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer, it should, aye |
| [05:48:00] | kormoc: | ShockValue, invincible, sure, but creating work for yourself seems rather meh :P |
| [05:48:00] | ShockValue: | you know what sucks? I made the mythtv box nice enough that I cant get my wife off the machine so i can tinker with it :) |
| [05:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ShockValue, lol |
| [05:49:00] | ShockValue: | kormoc: i emerge mythtv what, once every 6 months? 10 extra keystrokes keeps me young. |
| [05:49:00] | kormoc: | ShockValue, that's why ssh was created! :P |
| [05:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, indeed! |
| [05:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | stealth fixxer |
| [05:49:00] | ShockValue: | kormoc: yeah, but i cant test post-proccessing filters with xine via ssh :) |
| [05:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | with niceness to make it super sneeky *grins* |
| [05:50:00] | kormoc: | ShockValue, of course you can, she'll just be startled when random videos show up on the screen |
| [05:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ShockValue, thats when you say well the machine is acting goofy I got to fix it |
| [05:50:00] | kormoc: | ShockValue, or you could be really evil, start up porn, and walk by and be like, HUN! WTF?!?! |
| [05:50:00] | ShockValue: | im just scared it would accidentally play a porn instead of the matrix or something >:) |
| [05:50:00] | ShockValue: | lol |
| [05:50:00] | ShockValue: | jinx |
| [05:51:00] | ShockValue: | no honey, i swear thats not why we needed more hard drives! |
| [05:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [05:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | blame it on the dog! |
| [05:51:00] | ShockValue: | it's for more of your queer-eye episodes i swear! |
| [05:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | bad fluffy bad |
| [05:51:00] | ShockValue: | that would almost work.. but the dogs name in Manson >:) |
| [05:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh even better |
| [05:52:00] | PaulWay: | I never let my porn anywhere near my MythTV setup... |
| [05:52:00] | PaulWay: | Never take chances |
| [05:52:00] | ShockValue: | i should eather.. but i have a weekness :) |
| [05:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | PaulWay, well damn... I dont haven any porn so where does that leave me |
| [05:52:00] | ShockValue: | shouldnt ^ |
| [05:52:00] | ShockValue: | SlicerDicer- horney? |
| [05:53:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer, a loonie aussie? :P |
| [05:53:00] | mishehu: | I can't believe I had to dl vobcopy just to be able to watch a movie I own. |
| [05:53:00] | PaulWay: | SlicerDicer: wise. |
| [05:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, lol |
| [05:53:00] | mishehu: | for some reason, libdvdcss and xine wouldn't pull the right keys from it. |
| [05:53:00] | PaulWay: | Are you from .au too? |
| [05:53:00] | mishehu: | anybody know how to make these vob files back into a video dvd? |
| [05:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://www.cbronline.com/article_news.asp?gui . . . 2614D93B0E0F |
| [05:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ouch |
| [05:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, still wont stop me from buying samsung ram :) still the best IMO |
| [05:54:00] | kormoc: | :) |
| [05:54:00] | ShockValue: | 3 minutes until her show is over.. off to play :) |
| [05:55:00] | PaulWay: | Never _ever_ think that the companies want to offer lower prices. |
| [05:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | PaulWay, I am not .au right now :) |
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| [05:57:00] | PaulWay: | Has anyone any experience here with getting those USB IR receivers working? |
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| [05:58:00] | woodwizzle: | I have a lirc question (i think) |
| [05:58:00] | PaulWay: | mmmmmm? |
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| [05:59:00] | woodwizzle: | when I use my keyboard arrow keys to scroll through my music it starts slow and then speeds up |
| [05:59:00] | woodwizzle: | which is handy cuz I have lots of music |
| [05:59:00] | woodwizzle: | but my remote stays really really slow if I hold the key down |
| [05:59:00] | woodwizzle: | so I get frustrated and I try to push it really really fast like its a nintendo power pad |
| [05:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | PaulWay, well I tried a serial one but decided on doing rs232 direct to the cablebox insted |
| [05:59:00] | PaulWay: | If you use irw, do you see the key repeating? |
| [06:00:00] | woodwizzle: | PaulWay, who me? |
| [06:00:00] | PaulWay: | SlicerDicer: I'm thinking more a receiver than a transmitter. |
| [06:00:00] | PaulWay: | woodwizzle: yeah, why not :-) |
| [06:00:00] | woodwizzle: | whats irw? |
| [06:00:00] | PaulWay: | man irw |
| [06:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh hell I dont know PaulWay |
| [06:02:00] | woodwizzle: | ok yeah, I see it repeating |
| [06:02:00] | PaulWay: | woodwizzle: then you've got me stumped. |
| [06:02:00] | woodwizzle: | but I'd like to see it start to repeat much much faster |
| [06:02:00] | woodwizzle: | it repeats in mythmusic it just goes slower than holding down the arrow key |
| [06:02:00] | PaulWay: | You've got me stumped from there. I'm still trying to get IR working :-) |
| [06:03:00] | woodwizzle: | there is an option in the setup somewhere that causes holding down an arrow key to speed up. Doesn't work for Lirc I suppose |
| [06:03:00] | PaulWay: | SlicerDicer: I've got a serial IrDA adapter on the motherboard, a thingo that plugs into my AVerMedia DVB-T card, and a USB IR device from my other DVB card. |
| [06:03:00] | PaulWay: | woodwizzle: It may be a lirc option somewhere. |
| [06:04:00] | woodwizzle: | ok, i'll muck around in lirc.conf and see if I can figure something out |
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| [06:05:00] | PaulWay: | None of my IR devices work yet... |
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| [06:10:00] | ShockValue: | how do i make a simple bash script take an argument? |
| [06:10:00] | woodwizzle: | oooh I found it! |
| [06:10:00] | PaulWay: | woodwizzle: do tell! |
| [06:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, have you seen the latest John Dvorak comments? I am laughing myself silly |
| [06:11:00] | woodwizzle: | in my .lircrc I have to edit the repeat= value for the keys I want (i just did the arrow keys) |
| [06:11:00] | woodwizzle: | lower = faster |
| [06:11:00] | kormoc: | SlicerDicer, no I havn't |
| [06:11:00] | PaulWay: | ShockValue: The arguments are $1, $2, etc. The number of arguments is in $#. |
| [06:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, he was talking about Vista wont boot edition |
| [06:11:00] | PaulWay: | woodwizzle: Great stuff! |
| [06:11:00] | ShockValue: | PaulWay: thank you |
| [06:12:00] | PaulWay: | SlicerDicer: where's this? |
| [06:12:00] | PaulWay: | in his blog? |
| [06:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | PaulWay, hang on |
| [06:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1869377,00.asp |
| [06:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its kinda amusing :) |
| [06:13:00] | PaulWay: | I'm just glad that someone with Dvorak's profile has pointed this out. |
| [06:14:00] | PaulWay: | It's like Microsoft: "How can we rort you today?" |
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| [06:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
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| [06:16:00] | PaulWay: | The thing I find amusing about the whole thing is that Windows is now coming neck and neck in major reviews against things like Fedora Core, OS-X, and Linspire. |
| [06:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well of course it would with OS-X it blows the piss out of microsoft |
| [06:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | OSX is a awesome OS |
| [06:17:00] | PaulWay: | Microsoft has spent billions – trillions – of programming dollars and its rivals are passing it. |
| [06:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | honestly its really really nice I like it alot. |
| [06:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | exactly |
| [06:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | PaulWay, Linux is really nice too no matter what distro its nicer than winders IMO |
| [06:18:00] | PaulWay: | My brother's got the "don't distribute this x86 image" image running on his Pentium 4 and it's pretty smooth, apparently. |
| [06:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | the thing that OSX has on linux is the "just werks part" |
| [06:18:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, linux doesn't just work |
| [06:18:00] | PatrickDK: | windows works just fine |
| [06:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | my ass |
| [06:18:00] | PatrickDK: | if you setup and use it properly |
| [06:18:00] | PatrickDK: | my win2k3 servers have never crashed or gone down |
| [06:19:00] | PaulWay: | SlicerDicer: The irritating thing is that the people who complain "oh, but if I go to another OS I won't know how to use it" are the ones that are sticking with Windows. |
| [06:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh yeah like I really have control over how to install the system.... 90% of installs eat dust on my system when I tried to put windows on |
| [06:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what are you on PatrickDK |
| [06:19:00] | PaulWay: | If they could look back at IBM's FUD about other manufacturers from 20–30 years ago. |
| [06:19:00] | PatrickDK: | heh? |
| [06:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | PatrickDK, I am serious |
| [06:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | BSOD on first bootup |
| [06:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah thats really "just werks" |
| [06:19:00] | PatrickDK: | so am I, I maintain some win2k3 servers |
| [06:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | not to start a flamewar or anything |
| [06:19:00] | PaulWay: | PatrickDK: I'd agree with that. |
| [06:19:00] | PatrickDK: | I would perfer not to maintain them, but well, they where needed |
| [06:20:00] | PatrickDK: | disagree with what? |
| [06:20:00] | PaulWay: | I'm not anti-Microsoft because their product isn't slick, well-designed and easy to use. |
| [06:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but PatrickDK you have to agree with me that OSX just works out of the box |
| [06:20:00] | PaulWay: | And I certainly wish the OSS world had Microsoft's influence with developers of hardware. |
| [06:20:00] | PatrickDK: | I'm just saying most windows problems are not microsofts fault, but crappy 3rd party software/drivers |
| [06:20:00] | PatrickDK: | I never use OSX and never wll |
| [06:21:00] | PatrickDK: | I use slackware and freebsd mainly |
| [06:21:00] | PaulWay: | PatrickDK: I've had windows machines crash and burn with nothing but stock Microsoft software on them. |
| [06:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | PatrickDK, well I use OSX on my mac :) its really nice |
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| [06:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | PaulWay, exactly |
| [06:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | fresh bootup not connected to the net just after install and BLAM it dies? what gives |
| [06:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have never seen any other OS do that |
| [06:21:00] | PatrickDK: | Dunno how you all set it up than, I haven't ever had a problem with windows crashing |
| [06:22:00] | PatrickDK: | atleast not since win98 |
| [06:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | WinXP is a pile of poo though |
| [06:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | brown spots on the wall by microsoft |
| [06:22:00] | PaulWay: | If Apple ever say "Hey, let's just make a bunch of money selling OS-X for any x86 machine, not just ones we've manufactured" then Microsoft will have SERIOUS competition. |
| [06:22:00] | red_fox: | SlicerDicer, are you using legit windows cds? |
| [06:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | red_fox, yes I do not own one peice of illegal software |
| [06:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | or have... rather |
| [06:22:00] | PaulWay: | Because the Apple people can out-market Microsoft (and that's saying something!) |
| [06:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [06:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | how do you own illegal software |
| [06:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats like umm dumb? |
| [06:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | PaulWay, well I have a theory to that :) |
| [06:23:00] | PatrickDK: | dunno, my windows sql server is coming up on a year uptime in a month |
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| [06:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | PatrickDK, ohhh goody its not been patched |
| [06:23:00] | PatrickDK: | nope |
| [06:23:00] | PatrickDK: | patchs are bad |
| [06:24:00] | red_fox: | yeah, I've never really heard of people having that much trouble with fresh installs |
| [06:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | red_fox, dunno maybe my disk is bad |
| [06:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its the real deal |
| [06:24:00] | red_fox: | but I have had a backup cd go bad on me |
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| [06:24:00] | red_fox: | had to go back to the origional |
| [06:24:00] | PatrickDK: | the thing to do with windows servers it to keep them behind a firewall, and only allow one single port in (sql) for my server |
| [06:24:00] | ShockValue: | where does mtd store its log file? i cant seem to find it |
| [06:24:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, patchs don't matter much than |
| [06:24:00] | PaulWay: | I only object to Microsoft because they're intent on making money off the customers every way they can. See the Dvorak article. |
| [06:25:00] | PatrickDK: | but to put a windows computer in the net, let alone without a firewall is crazy |
| [06:25:00] | PaulWay: | And to do that they lie, cheat, steal, price fix, bribe, destroy, and worse. |
| [06:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hang on red_fox |
| [06:25:00] | PaulWay: | PatrickDK: To put any computer on the net with no firewall and no anti-virus protection is lunatic. |
| [06:26:00] | PatrickDK: | antivirus is ok |
| [06:26:00] | PatrickDK: | all company/personal stuff is on firewalls |
| [06:26:00] | PatrickDK: | but my servers are not behind firewalls, not my freebsd ones atleast |
| [06:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | red_fox, I took a picture of my winders cd just now for ya :) |
| [06:26:00] | PaulWay: | The point is that the computer shouldn't even really trust the user. |
| [06:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | red_fox, tell me if its legit |
| [06:26:00] | red_fox: | hahaha |
| [06:26:00] | red_fox: | SlicerDicer, I'm not calling you a liar or anything |
| [06:26:00] | PatrickDK: | ya, users are the worst for everything |
| [06:27:00] | red_fox: | just surprised that you would have that much trouble from a fresh install |
| [06:27:00] | FITH: | heh, my FreeBSD, OpenBSD and Linux boxes have survived without antivirus support so far :) (Definatly have firewalls tho!) |
| [06:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://home.comcast.net/~slicerdicer/winders.jpg forgive the low quality |
| [06:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I only have a camera phone thing |
| [06:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | as you can see in the CD refection red_fox :) |
| [06:28:00] | red_fox: | not bad for a cell phone ;-) |
| [06:29:00] | red_fox: | which phone is it? |
| [06:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | umm |
| [06:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://home.comcast.net/~slicerdicer/nokia.jpg not one of those :P |
| [06:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its a 6620 |
| [06:29:00] | PaulWay: | Oh my god! http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3052 |
| [06:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | red_fox, but yeah I am not totally against microsoft they have their uses |
| [06:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | red_fox, they make a great flightsim |
| [06:30:00] | red_fox: | hahaha |
| [06:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | when they do something right they do it right |
| [06:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but damn... |
| [06:30:00] | ShockValue: | microsoft indirectly is resposible for my paycheck :) |
| [06:30:00] | red_fox: | I like some of their hardware... |
| [06:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah I use their keyboards and mouse |
| [06:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and joystick |
| [06:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | that they no longer make? umm no? |
| [06:31:00] | red_fox: | shockwave? |
| [06:31:00] | red_fox: | err nm |
| [06:31:00] | PaulWay: | SlicerDicer: You mean when they buy someone else's product that does it right, they do it right... |
| [06:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | PaulWay, I dont think they purchased flightsim did they? |
| [06:32:00] | ShockValue: | So by that logic: if they buy someone elses stuff that is crap, then its not their fault? |
| [06:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | red_fox, the sidewinder force feedback joysticks were the best stick out there IMO |
| [06:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | why did they stop making it |
| [06:33:00] | red_fox: | ah sidewinder |
| [06:33:00] | red_fox: | I was thinking shockwave for some reason... |
| [06:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | had weight behind it, you could control the tension on the stick... all that good stuff |
| [06:33:00] | red_fox: | yeah I had one, it was great |
| [06:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I still have mine |
| [06:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I will never get rid of it |
| [06:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nothing surpasses it todate |
| [06:33:00] | red_fox: | I would guess they dropped it because joysticks never really picked up |
| [06:33:00] | red_fox: | which is too bad |
| [06:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | red_fox, everybody always wondered why I owned so much at BF1942 lol |
| [06:33:00] | PaulWay: | SlicerDicer: Pretty sure they did, albeit a long long time ago. |
| [06:34:00] | red_fox: | hehe |
| [06:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | flying the planes I was lethal to the button |
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| [06:34:00] | PaulWay: | Halo was produced by a company they bought and absorbed. |
| [06:34:00] | red_fox: | my sidewinder came with this great game... don't remember the name |
| [06:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | PaulWay, maybe but it has no bearing on FS9 I mean they are so radically differnet from FS1 to FS9 that even if they did purchase them none of the orginal code is there I would bet |
| [06:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | red_fox, yeah its sad that the sidewinders are going to be EOL in 2 years |
| [06:35:00] | red_fox: | yeah... I don't even have the joystick port any more |
| [06:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | red_fox, mine is USB |
| [06:35:00] | red_fox: | I wonder if they make a joystick -> usb adapter... |
| [06:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dunno |
| [06:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I bet if more games used joysticks though and I mean really used htem |
| [06:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and the joystick control was far more than you could do with keyboard/mouse they would be more viable |
| [06:37:00] | PaulWay: | SlicerDicer: One could argue that the team that produces FS is not originally from MS, but it's a bit academic now. |
| [06:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but nobody wants to touch them |
| [06:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | every game lately that uses a stick its horrible control vs keyboard/mouse |
| [06:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its sad |
| [06:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | point taken PaulWay |
| [06:37:00] | PaulWay: | Anyway, I'm off to make a work bench. |
| [06:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | red_fox, the microsoft joysticks were not made by them anyway though just had microsoft name on it |
| [06:39:00] | red_fox: | yeah granted |
| [06:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://home.comcast.net/~slicerdicer/joystick.jpg thats the stick I got |
| [06:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it plugs into real power outlet so it has enough power to add electrical tension adjusting and all that stuff |
| [06:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it was like 180$ when I got it |
| [06:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | totally kick ass with USB |
| [06:41:00] | red_fox: | hah you are starting to abuse the camera phone now |
| [06:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [06:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no you should see all the pictures stored on that upload spot |
| [06:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I think I got 87? |
| [06:41:00] | red_fox: | hehe |
| [06:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it aint bad images though for lowlight |
| [06:43:00] | ShockValue: | dang it |
| [06:43:00] | red_fox: | yeah seems to work well |
| [06:43:00] | ShockValue: | mtd keeps bombing out.. telling me that it cant write to the disk |
| [06:43:00] | ShockValue: | but this is after writing about 2G to it |
| [06:44:00] | ShockValue: | is there some file size limitations on a samba share connected to a NTFS drive? |
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| [06:49:00] | mchou: | bah, those arent real joysticks..... |
| [06:49:00] | mchou: | Thustmaster cougar is a real stick |
| [06:49:00] | mchou: | Thrustmaster* |
| [06:50:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdet . . . =us&l=en |
| [06:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hi mchou |
| [06:50:00] | mchou: | hi SlicerDicer- |
| [06:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nah I dont like the thrustmaster |
| [06:50:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: huh??? |
| [06:50:00] | mchou: | why not? |
| [06:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cause its too bulky |
| [06:51:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [06:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | not heavy enough base on the stick too |
| [06:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | when I fly in games I need it to be stable |
| [06:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats part of my reason for being so good is I can get precice control due to the stick being stable |
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| [06:51:00] | mchou: | huh?? cougar doesnt have solid base? |
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| [06:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, no it does not |
| [06:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | try yanking the stick in a dogfight and turning the rudder and watch how the base will jump |
| [06:52:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: you dont know what you are talking about |
| [06:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | you will not have a smooth turn |
| [06:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | bullshit mchou |
| [06:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | my joystick weighs about 7 pounds |
| [06:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it does not budge |
| [06:52:00] | mchou: | You can nount the base on big plywood if you want |
| [06:52:00] | mchou: | mount* |
| [06:53:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [06:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont want it mounted I want it moveable so when I am done I can set it on the floor out of my way |
| [06:53:00] | mchou: | Cougar weighs 2x more than that |
| [06:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
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| [06:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, I am always on the lookout for a better joystick but nothing has been as good yet |
| [06:54:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: bullshit |
| [06:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | sometimes I like really tense spring feel sometimes I like it lose spring feel and I can adjust that on mine can that thrustmaster do that? |
| [06:55:00] | mchou: | yup, can adjust spring tension on cougar |
| [06:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its all done by a motor too so the further you pull it back the stronger it gets and springs dont wear out |
| [06:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well mchou I will have to look at it |
| [06:55:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: so? Cougar has gimbal and motor |
| [06:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, I said I would look at it :) |
| [06:57:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: "18 pound springs for solid resistance" |
| [06:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
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| [07:02:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: http://www.frugalsworld.com/editorials/cougar1-1.shtml |
| [07:02:00] | mchou: | "Oh easy – "all metal" ? metal ?. metal ?. and with that ?.. the weight !!! Every person who's picked up these controllers, and I was exactly the same, comments on their weight, and the cool feel of an all metal joystick and throttle. Seriously, the weight of these things is ridiculous. You drop one of these on your foot and you're in big trouble! I said "all metal" ?. this means practically everything, that's the hats, the trigger, |
| [07:02:00] | mchou: | buttons, the whole thing, the base ?. everything. It's the same with the throttle, practically everything on it is metal. " |
| [07:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well sorry mchou |
| [07:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I havent seen that one |
| [07:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I did not know it was metal |
| [07:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | all the other ones I have seen were crappy plastic |
| [07:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I figured it was just black plastic |
| [07:05:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: well, you figured wrong |
| [07:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | obviously |
| [07:06:00] | mchou: | that why I said: "SlicerDicer-: bullshit" |
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| [07:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well cool mchou I will for sure look at it |
| [07:13:00] | ** Cardoe yawns. ** | |
| [07:14:00] | defaultro: | hi mchou |
| [07:16:00] | mchou: | hi defaultro |
| [07:17:00] | mchou: | get your fusion yet? |
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| [07:32:00] | woodwizzle: | I have onboard nforce audio. It was working ok coming out the regular audio jack but a little gritty. I tried using an optical cable to my receiver instead but I get no sound at all. I played around in alsamixer but nothing seems to turn it on. Any ideas? |
| [07:38:00] | defaultro: | mchou, nope |
| [07:39:00] | defaultro: | mchou, i might get it next year. I'm preparing myself to the new house |
| [07:39:00] | defaultro: | i'm moving out on July |
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| [07:39:00] | defaultro: | just about 5 miles away |
| [07:40:00] | defaultro: | mchou, I'm sleeping now, chat to you later ...... |
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| [07:51:00] | Cardoe: | woodwizzle: search ALSA install guides/info |
| [07:55:00] | woodwizzle: | Cardoe: Ok this is wierd... |
| [07:56:00] | woodwizzle: | I found that I need to set my sound device from /dev/dsp to ALSA:spdif |
| [07:56:00] | woodwizzle: | which worked, but for only one song and then it stopped working completely?! |
| [07:56:00] | Cardoe: | nfc |
| [07:56:00] | Cardoe: | I don't use spdif |
| [07:56:00] | woodwizzle: | nfc? |
| [07:57:00] | Cardoe: | no f-ing clue |
| [07:57:00] | woodwizzle: | I did aplay -l and it showed ALSA:spidf as my digital playback device |
| [07:57:00] | woodwizzle: | oh lol |
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| [08:02:00] | eiggirC: | YAY! I got my tuna card in my mythtv box, and xawtv and radio both work |
| [08:03:00] | eiggirC: | unf its in a tin shed with a rabbit ears aerial so it gets three channels :-\ |
| [08:04:00] | eiggirC: | good for a test though |
| [08:09:00] | woodwizzle: | is it possible to play a dvd.iso file in mythtv? |
| [08:09:00] | woodwizzle: | or is there an easy (who am I kiddin... none of this is ever easy!) way to convert it to mpeg or somethin? |
| [08:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe, do you have any idea what can be causing myth to just crash and say "killed" thats the only message I get I play 1 video its fine I play a second video it crashes... 100% reproduceable everytime |
| [08:12:00] | eiggirC: | sounds like something isn't closing |
| [08:12:00] | eiggirC: | or somethings in a funny state |
| [08:12:00] | ShockValue: | is there a quick way to remove all recording schedules? |
| [08:12:00] | ShockValue: | and all recordings? |
| [08:12:00] | eiggirC: | rm ? |
| [08:12:00] | ShockValue: | without dropping any of my settings.. |
| [08:12:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer: it sounds like oom is killing it |
| [08:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | oom? |
| [08:12:00] | Cardoe: | the kernel |
| [08:12:00] | Cardoe: | eating up too much resources |
| [08:12:00] | ShockValue: | I just upgraded to a 16x9 set, and i want to re-record all my stuff |
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| [08:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | will watch the memory Cardoe when I mess with it over ssh :) |
| [08:14:00] | Cardoe: | search oom killer |
| [08:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok |
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| [08:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | shit... |
| [08:15:00] | Goshen: | When setting up mythtv for bttv card using mic input, what audio input device do I select? |
| [08:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I will fix it later |
| [08:16:00] | blakeb: | is anyone here familiar with the protocol the frontend uses to communicate with the backend? |
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| [08:20:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | blakeb: what about it? |
| [08:20:00] | blakeb: | well, im confused on how to transfer data via a ringbuffer to the remote host |
| [08:20:00] | blakeb: | i know i use ANN Ringbuffer localip 1 |
| [08:21:00] | blakeb: | but then where do i connect to? |
| [08:22:00] | blakeb: | i know it sounds like a dumb question, but i think i'm just missing something big |
| [08:23:00] | Rince: | question: I tried to use a new mythfrontend... which works finally :) but all the colors are far too bright when I play a recorded program; using key "F" doesn't create any reaction (I can not change the brightness or the contrast)... can anyone tell me wether this is a bug and/or where I could enter my "default"-values for that in the MySQL-Database? |
| [08:23:00] | Rince: | blakeb: what about the backendserver port 6543, if you are still on the network level? |
| [08:23:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | I think you connect back to the same port you connected to previously so you have 2 connections open |
| [08:24:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | you should look at tcpdump, ethereal, or try running your backend and frontend with the "-v network" option to see the communication that goes on back and forth. |
| [08:24:00] | blakeb: | but i have already established a connection to that port, so just open up another socket that connects to that host? is it really that easy? |
| [08:25:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | yes, but the announcements are different I believe for your first connetion and the ringbuffer connection. try running "mythfrontend -v network" and you'll see the different sockets and their data. |
| [08:26:00] | blakeb: | cool thanks, i must be smoking some crazy crack, because that is so obvious and i didnt see it. |
| [08:26:00] | blakeb: | im going to write some test code to see what happens |
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| [08:28:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | what language are you looking at writing in? |
| [08:29:00] | blakeb: | im writing the test code in python, but eventually i want to write a cocoa app |
| [08:30:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok. just checking. the mvmpc project has C code to do it if you want to look at that. mvmpc.sf.net |
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| [08:31:00] | Rince: | When I start seeing a program, I have four connections |
| [08:31:00] | Rince: | to port 6543 |
| [08:31:00] | blakeb: | yeah, ive browsed through that libcmyth a little |
| [08:31:00] | blakeb: | four? |
| [08:31:00] | blakeb: | i can only account for 2 |
| [08:31:00] | blakeb: | control, ringbuf transfer |
| [08:32:00] | Rince: | rince@greebo:~$ LANG=C ; netstat -na|grep 6543 |
| [08:32:00] | Rince: | tcp 0 0 172.25.42.24:37142 172.25.42.9:6543 ESTABLISHED |
| [08:32:00] | Goshen: | How do you tell mythtv to get the audio from the mic jack on the soundcard? |
| [08:32:00] | Rince: | tcp 0 0 172.25.42.24:37143 172.25.42.9:6543 ESTABLISHED |
| [08:32:00] | Rince: | tcp 0 0 172.25.42.24:37150 172.25.42.9:6543 ESTABLISHED |
| [08:32:00] | Rince: | tcp 14 0 172.25.42.24:37149 172.25.42.9:6543 ESTABLISHED |
| [08:32:00] | blakeb: | hmm, i wonder what the others are for? |
| [08:32:00] | Rince: | this is when backend is on 172.25.42.9 and the frontend on 172.25.42.24 |
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| [08:35:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | Goshen: you don't, you tell Myth to get the audio from the soundcard and you tell the audio card what input to record from. check out one of the howtos, not sure if this helps or not... http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php#alsa |
| [08:36:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | the other 2 are the normal connections that mythfrontend opens |
| [08:37:00] | Rince: | funny |
| [08:37:00] | Rince: | _now_ the color is fine on the laptop-lcd... but I still can not change brightness or contrast while watching a recording... |
| [08:38:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | they're unrelated to playing, they are the ones that it does all the other communication over like get the recorded programs list, etc.. |
| [08:39:00] | Goshen: | Captain_Murdoch: thank you I am reading through it now..its a little over my head, but I will give it a go |
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| [09:12:00] | blakeb: | i keep getting this error on my mythbackend output "2005-10–15 02:13:13.169 unknown socket" |
| [09:12:00] | blakeb: | any ideas? |
| [09:12:00] | blakeb: | n/m |
| [09:13:00] | blakeb: | im going to look at it tomorrow |
| [09:13:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | you'll see that sometimes when a socket is closed I think. |
| [09:13:00] | blakeb: | hmm |
| [09:13:00] | blakeb: | ill try again later |
| [09:13:00] | blakeb: | thx |
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| [09:40:00] | Cagochi: | I encoded my video from a hauppauge 500mce at 1600000bitrate (the hard max)... how is it possible for me to fit 2 hours of video this size onto a DVD? I need to shrink it down, but still put it on a DVD. help. |
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| [09:44:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | dvd compatible max bitrate is only about 9Mbit/sec I think. |
| [09:45:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | might have to reencode, especially if you didn't encode the video in a DVD-compatible resolution and the audio in a DVD-compatible format. |
| [09:46:00] | Cagochi: | Captain_Murdoch, the video came from mythTV. |
| [09:46:00] | Cagochi: | My encoder card is the hauppauge 500mce |
| [09:46:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | so. :) |
| [09:47:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | on the recording profiles setup screens, you can set the height and width and audio and video types (mpeg1, mpeg2, etc.) |
| [09:47:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | not all formats the PVR cards generate are DVD-compatible |
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| [09:47:00] | Cagochi: | $hit |
| [09:47:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | ie, you might not be able to play them in a DVD player if you chose an odd resolution or weird bitrate on the audio, etc.. |
| [09:47:00] | Cagochi: | I thought it would have been best to capture at the max the hardware encoder allowed.... |
| [09:48:00] | Cagochi: | and then reencode it. |
| [09:48:00] | Cagochi: | Well... most of my video is recorded at 720x480.... some of it is recorded 640x480 |
| [09:49:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | I think 720x480 is in the dvd spec, I usually record my stuff at 352x480 in case I want to burn a show to DVD. I just have to remultiplex the file and I can burn it. haven't done that in a while though. |
| [09:49:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | 352x480 is 1/2 D1 resolution (D1 is 704x480 |
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| [09:51:00] | Cagochi: | Can I do 720x480? |
| [09:54:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | I think that's an acceptable DVD resolution but I'd google to make sure if I were you. some players will play off-resolutions but some won't. |
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| [09:57:00] | Cagochi: | Well... mencoder should have no problem making an mpeg from mpeg video just changing the bitrate should it? |
| [09:58:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | changing the bitrate meaning re-encoding? if you have DVD RW, you might want to try using tcreplex on it first. |
| [10:00:00] | Cagochi: | i just have dvd-r discs |
| [10:01:00] | Cagochi: | that's big video. |
| [10:01:00] | Cagochi: | but it's interlaced too. |
| [10:01:00] | Cagochi: | so with mencoder i should be able to deinterlace it anyway... |
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| [10:31:00] | amorphix: | hi |
| [10:32:00] | amorphix: | does anyone have any experience/comments on the Typhoon USB PVR's? |
| [10:33:00] | laga: | i've never heard of anyone who got 'em working |
| [10:33:00] | amorphix: | oh that doesnt sound good |
| [10:34:00] | amorphix: | I have an old analogue card at the moment which doesnt do hardware compression, and has a problem with interference on screen/lines at smaller window sizes |
| [10:35:00] | amorphix: | however it captures images ok without any problem |
| [10:37:00] | laga: | amorphix: well, what about the pvr 150/250/500 made by hauppauge? |
| [10:38:00] | amorphix: | i will upgrade to one I think |
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| [10:47:00] | Goshen: | 2005-10–15 02:47:13.105 Couldn't get the color key color, and we need it. |
| [10:47:00] | Goshen: | You likely won't get any video. |
| [10:47:00] | Goshen: | What does that mean? |
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| [11:01:00] | Goshen: | Also, how is it that my cpu is %80 idle and it takes forever and ever to change channels? |
| [11:05:00] | jnc: | Goshen: maybe your compewtarr succhx |
| [11:06:00] | Goshen: | jnc: thats really helpful thanks |
| [11:07:00] | jnc: | Goshen: the delay when changing channels is to be expected |
| [11:07:00] | jnc: | that's like a known feature of mythtv |
| [11:07:00] | jnc: | i don't know, how rediculous is it? more than 2 sec? |
| [11:07:00] | Goshen: | yes |
| [11:07:00] | jnc: | hm |
| [11:07:00] | jnc: | hardware specs? |
| [11:07:00] | Goshen: | what was that command to check for DMA mode? |
| [11:08:00] | Goshen: | athlon 3500+ 64 bit |
| [11:08:00] | jnc: | hdparm – uhh.. |
| [11:08:00] | Goshen: | 1.5 gig memory |
| [11:08:00] | jnc: | i'd have to man page it |
| [11:08:00] | jnc: | it's been a while |
| [11:08:00] | Goshen: | Mandriva 2006 64 bit |
| [11:09:00] | jnc: | o_O 3500xp+ athlon64? yeep |
| [11:09:00] | jnc: | heat the living room with that thing |
| [11:10:00] | Goshen: | it does keep my office really warm |
| [11:10:00] | jnc: | does it dim the lights on the street when you turn it on? |
| [11:11:00] | ** jnc gets smart ** | |
| [11:11:00] | Goshen: | DMA is on |
| [11:12:00] | Goshen: | I have a crappy old WinTV card |
| [11:12:00] | Goshen: | have to get the audio by running a cable from the output to the sound card |
| [11:12:00] | Goshen: | which isn't working either |
| [11:12:00] | ** Juski wakes up (yawn) ** | |
| [11:12:00] | Goshen: | no audio in mythtv, I can get it if I unmute the mixer, but that isn't feeding in to Mythtv |
| [11:13:00] | Juski: | Goshen... you've got to enable the line audio input for recording |
| [11:13:00] | Goshen: | the red dot, I did that yes |
| [11:14:00] | Goshen: | and unchecked the green dot |
| [11:14:00] | ** Juski doesn't have sound on his backend machine, so probably can't help much more ** | |
| [11:15:00] | Juski: | or rather – I don't have a soundcard |
| [11:15:00] | Goshen: | what capture cards do you use? |
| [11:16:00] | Juski: | DVB-T |
| [11:16:00] | Goshen: | is that NTSC? |
| [11:16:00] | Juski: | nope |
| [11:16:00] | Goshen: | I better get to bed |
| [11:16:00] | Goshen: | thanks anyhow |
| [11:16:00] | Goshen: | night |
| [11:16:00] | Juski: | and soon I'll be using a network capable set top box :) |
| [11:16:00] | Juski: | night Goshen |
| [11:21:00] | amorphix: | hi |
| [11:21:00] | amorphix: | im just nosing around |
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| [11:21:00] | BaZiL: | got some questios about this myth for knoppix .. anyone konw about this ? |
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| [11:22:00] | Juski: | ask away, BaZiL |
| [11:23:00] | Juski: | by 'myth for knoppix' I take it you mean 'knoppmyth' |
| [11:23:00] | BaZiL: | ya .. knoppmyht .. thats it .. does it install itself on hd |
| [11:23:00] | Juski: | it can, if you choose to |
| [11:23:00] | Juski: | infact you'll need to do that to run a mythtv backend server |
| [11:24:00] | BaZiL: | so .. its like this .... im quite lame when it comes to linux .. is it easy to install with the knoppmyth ? |
| [11:24:00] | BaZiL: | can it install so it doesnt require the cd everytime it boots ? |
| [11:25:00] | BaZiL: | i seem to have fucked upp the install i have .. quite severely |
| [11:26:00] | Juski: | BaZiL – it's probably the easiest of all to install |
| [11:26:00] | Juski: | but that's no indicator of how easy it'll be to get it working properly ;) |
| [11:26:00] | BaZiL: | install it without knopp? |
| [11:27:00] | BaZiL: | or should i use knoppmyth |
| [11:27:00] | BaZiL: | witch is the most easy one ? |
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| [11:28:00] | Juski: | probably knoppmyth in terms of installation |
| [11:28:00] | Juski: | read all the docs first, then read them again, then start setting up, reading the docs as you go |
| [11:29:00] | BaZiL: | think ill handle it .. the problem i got with the system i had set up is tat it fucked up totally when upgrading from fc2 to fc4 |
| [11:29:00] | BaZiL: | suddenly nvidacard didnt work .. and nvidia installe rcouldnt find the kerneltree .. |
| [11:30:00] | BaZiL: | and then it just got worze and worze |
| [11:30:00] | BaZiL: | now i cant even start the fucker up without it complaining about readonly system |
| [11:31:00] | Juski: | for such a big change, surely a reinstall would have been best anyway (not being an FC user I don't know) |
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| [11:35:00] | BaZiL: | what system is the best one to use for myth juski then ? everybody is complaining on me for using fedora |
| [11:35:00] | amorphix: | i want mythtv on my palm m530 |
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| [11:42:00] | Juski: | I think FC is the best documented for mythtv, judging by what I've seen |
| [11:43:00] | Juski: | just go through jarod's guide again, but reinstall FC4 |
| [11:43:00] | Juski: | I tried a knoppmyth CD once for a frontend... it was slow, and it made the backend crash |
| [11:44:00] | Juski: | backend hadn't crashed before I used it, and hasn't done since |
| [11:44:00] | Juski: | once bitten ;) |
| [11:45:00] | amorphix: | i want to watch mythtv, on my palm m530 |
| [11:45:00] | amorphix: | is it possible? |
| [11:46:00] | Juski: | probably not, amorphix |
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| [11:46:00] | Juski: | you could possibly use it as a remote control though |
| [11:46:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [11:47:00] | amorphix: | juski why |
| [11:47:00] | amorphix: | it has a colour screen |
| [11:47:00] | amorphix: | it can do usb |
| [11:48:00] | Juski: | can you watch videos on it? |
| [11:48:00] | amorphix: | sure |
| [11:49:00] | Juski: | use mythtranscode or mythburn to convert mythtv recordings to a format the PDA can use |
| [11:49:00] | Juski: | live TV, or a mythtv client for it will be pretty much out of the question though |
| [11:50:00] | otwin: | amorphix: you could use mythstreamtv to stream it to your pda |
| [11:51:00] | amorphix: | cooool |
| [11:52:00] | Juski: | http://sourceforge.net/projects/mythstreamtv/ |
| [11:53:00] | amorphix: | thanks juski |
| [11:53:00] | amorphix: | im trying to get mythtv onto my laptop |
| [11:53:00] | amorphix: | but my nic doesnt seem to want to co-operate |
| [11:53:00] | amorphix: | nfs is fuked up |
| [11:54:00] | amorphix: | do you guys use optical mice? |
| [11:54:00] | Juski: | yep |
| [11:55:00] | amorphix: | i only just discovered this technology this week |
| [11:55:00] | amorphix: | its pretty clever |
| [11:55:00] | Juski: | what's wrong with nfs? |
| [11:55:00] | Juski: | just set up /etc/exports with the options you want |
| [11:55:00] | Juski: | run the nfs daemon |
| [11:55:00] | amorphix: | well..it works fine, except when you try and transfer or stream larger media files (2mb +) and then nfs connection goes down |
| [11:55:00] | Juski: | eeeeeeeeeeeeew |
| [11:55:00] | amorphix: | however this works fine on my workstation |
| [11:56:00] | amorphix: | its just the laptop which has the problem |
| [11:56:00] | Juski: | sounds like a bad network driver |
| [11:56:00] | amorphix: | :-( |
| [11:56:00] | amorphix: | I think driver support for this HP Omnibook 3com nic may be questionable |
| [11:56:00] | Juski: | eeeew HP |
| [11:56:00] | amorphix: | i know its supported by the 3c59x |
| [11:57:00] | amorphix: | what? HP is a kick ass company no? |
| [11:57:00] | amorphix: | all my hardware is HP |
| [11:57:00] | Juski: | no |
| [11:57:00] | Juski: | bottom dollar, all the way with them, IMHO |
| [11:57:00] | amorphix: | seriously, HP are pioneers..they been going since what.. 1920's? |
| [11:58:00] | amorphix: | they even had their own Unix OS for a while |
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| [11:58:00] | Juski: | they make great servers and high end stuff |
| [11:58:00] | amorphix: | yes |
| [11:58:00] | amorphix: | anyways, you think its a driver issue then? |
| [11:59:00] | Juski: | more than likely.. what else can it be? |
| [11:59:00] | amorphix: | i dunno im out of ideas right now, ive ran 24 hrs of diagnostics on the laptop, and changed the hub, nic/cable |
| [11:59:00] | amorphix: | ftp transfer protocol works fine for larger files |
| [12:00:00] | amorphix: | could be just a nfs issue? |
| [12:00:00] | Juski: | any log stuff for nfs falling down? |
| [12:00:00] | amorphix: | yup |
| [12:00:00] | amorphix: | some silly errors |
| [12:01:00] | Juski: | such as? |
| [12:01:00] | amorphix: | just says nfs failed..lost connection, trying... etc, and alot of nic related error code stuff |
| [12:01:00] | Juski: | yeh that pretty much ties it up to the nix |
| [12:01:00] | Juski: | *nic |
| [12:01:00] | amorphix: | oh |
| [12:01:00] | amorphix: | but i tried switching to a pcmcia card and that had exactly the same prob |
| [12:02:00] | amorphix: | unless it used the same driver maybe? |
| [12:02:00] | Juski: | maybe |
| [12:02:00] | amorphix: | ive even reinstalled linux twice |
| [12:02:00] | amorphix: | tried different kernels |
| [12:02:00] | amorphix: | i may as well just sell this Omnibook and be done with it |
| [12:02:00] | Juski: | I'm battling on right now getting apache to work |
| [12:02:00] | amorphix: | really? whats up? |
| [12:03:00] | Juski: | I'm stumped |
| [12:03:00] | Juski: | when I start it I get [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts |
| [12:03:00] | amorphix: | I am running apache 2 for the last 2 years and ran 1.3 for 3 years prior |
| [12:03:00] | amorphix: | oh ive seen this one before |
| [12:03:00] | Juski: | and then it dies through (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 192.168.1.20:80 |
| [12:04:00] | amorphix: | sounds familiar |
| [12:04:00] | amorphix: | are you running v2? |
| [12:04:00] | Juski: | yeh |
| [12:04:00] | Juski: | I want the old gentoo one back lol |
| [12:04:00] | amorphix: | ok i will check my config |
| [12:04:00] | amorphix: | hehe |
| [12:05:00] | Juski: | another thing is.. if I start it from the command line, it just complains of the virtualhosts error |
| [12:05:00] | amorphix: | what you got in apache.conf for NameVirtualHost ? |
| [12:06:00] | Juski: | do you mean httpd.conf? |
| [12:06:00] | amorphix: | yes |
| [12:06:00] | amorphix: | sorry im running Debian, so config is a bit different |
| [12:06:00] | amorphix: | arrangement of files etc |
| [12:07:00] | Juski: | at the bottom of the httpd.conf file is an include for vhosts.d/*.conf |
| [12:07:00] | amorphix: | yup |
| [12:07:00] | amorphix: | but you should have a NameVirtualHost entry |
| [12:08:00] | Juski: | it says *.80 |
| [12:08:00] | Juski: | should it say my ip:80 instead? |
| [12:08:00] | Juski: | as in 1.2.3.4:80 |
| [12:08:00] | amorphix: | I think so |
| [12:08:00] | amorphix: | my setup is like this... |
| [12:09:00] | amorphix: | I have just NameVirtualHost * and then I bind on the port 80 in httpd.conf and my virtualhosts have the domain only, no ip is needed |
| [12:10:00] | amorphix: | if you put an IP on NameVirtualHost it will use that for all your vhosts, but you dont need to specify the port I dont think |
| [12:12:00] | amorphix: | in my vhosts entries i have: |
| [12:12:00] | amorphix: | <VirtualHost *> |
| [12:12:00] | amorphix: | ServerName www.blah.com |
| [12:14:00] | amorphix: | GIMP rocks |
| [12:20:00] | Hoxzer: | aarrgh :D |
| [12:20:00] | Hoxzer: | too hard fo rme |
| [12:20:00] | Hoxzer: | can somebody help me to install IVTV to linux? |
| [12:21:00] | BaZiL: | hoxzer .. tryed apt-get install IVTV ? |
| [12:21:00] | Hoxzer: | Bazil: doesn't work |
| [12:21:00] | BaZiL: | what happens |
| [12:21:00] | Hoxzer: | there is no such pakage |
| [12:21:00] | BaZiL: | its like ablind leading a blind ... i hardly know hwat im doing .. but atleast im trying ;) |
| [12:22:00] | BaZiL: | strange .. ive updated ivtv that way |
| [12:23:00] | Hoxzer: | do you have ubuntu? |
| [12:24:00] | Juski: | cheers amorphix.. will try that |
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| [12:30:00] | Hoxzer: | Bazil: do you use ubuntu? |
| [12:30:00] | BaZiL: | nope |
| [12:30:00] | BaZiL: | right now my whole system is totally fucked up an d im reinstalling every freakin thing ;( |
| [12:31:00] | Hoxzer: | but did you use ubuntu? :D |
| [12:31:00] | Hoxzer: | have you installed IVTV to ubuntu? |
| [12:34:00] | BaZiL: | nope on both questions |
| [12:34:00] | Hoxzer: | well what distro have you installed mythtv on? |
| [12:35:00] | BaZiL: | hehe .. im so freakin lame i use fedora |
| [12:40:00] | Hoxzer: | http://www.cs.rit.edu/~css8044/?q=mythtv maybe I just install hoary instead of beezy and follow that instruction |
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| [14:15:00] | Hoxzer: | this killing me :D |
| [14:16:00] | mmurphy: | BaZiL: i doing a fc2 – > fc4 today .... |
| [14:16:00] | mmurphy: | got a new pvr150 that im adding |
| [14:22:00] | Hoxzer: | Mmurphy: what distro do you use with Mythtv? |
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| [14:48:00] | banshee24: | Dudes, when i watch tv the sound is out of sync |
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| [15:28:00] | Pete_: | Im following the instructions on http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.2 |
| [15:28:00] | Pete_: | Im getting an error on the configure though |
| [15:28:00] | Pete_: | # ./configure |
| [15:28:00] | Pete_: | /tmp/ffmpeg-conf-14058-12028–6998.c:1:21: error: altivec.h: No such file or directory |
| [15:29:00] | Pete_: | it carries on, but the make fails right away |
| [15:29:00] | Pete_: | oh no, make works with the svn version now, my mistake |
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| [16:36:00] | Calim_the_Second: | hi – (SEEKING HELP) i've got a quick question about recording ... |
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| [16:38:00] | Calim_the_Second: | ok ... when I do "Watch TV", and press Record, it says ' Recording "" ' but it doesn't record ... I can't use all that planning and channel selection stuff because I cannot use my tuner, i'm using SVIDEO IN and a Sat Receiver |
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| [16:43:00] | Lxy: | in MythMusic, is there a way to quickly browse through the playlist? I have a playlist of several humdred songs and I'd like to quickly browse through it. The up/down arrows take forever |
| [16:43:00] | Lxy: | I'm using a keyboard, not a remote control |
| [16:43:00] | Calim_the_Second: | I can "just" record doing cat /dev/video0 > foo.mpg ... why can't I do a "JUST RECORD WHAT I'M WATCHING NOW" ? or can I? |
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| [16:44:00] | nik0z-u: | is there anyway to save the current buffer in mythtv? |
| [16:44:00] | FunkyELF: | what is up guys....I'm havin problems geting the TV-Out to work on my video card. I have an s-video to composite cable. The TV is showing everything in greyscale. Any ideas? |
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| [16:45:00] | FunkyELF: | I think I had that problem before on another machine running windows. There was a setting for PAL or NTSC and when it was on PAL it was black and white and on NTSC it was fine. But in my xorg.conf I have it set to NTSC |
| [16:46:00] | FunkyELF: | Option "TVStandard" "NTSC-M" |
| [16:46:00] | Calim_the_Second: | ad GREYSCALE: try changing the video input (on my card there are more than one svideo in i think)? i had the same issue, I'm using a PVR350 (ivtv) ... |
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| [16:46:00] | Pete_: | how do I compile mythtv with mouse support? |
| [16:47:00] | Calim_the_Second: | (if you were saying that xorg is b/w too than this does not apply) |
| [16:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | Pete_: YUou don't |
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| [16:47:00] | Pete_: | GreyFoxx: Agh, I don't want it hiding my mouse cursor |
| [16:47:00] | Lxy: | Pete_, AFAIK there is no such thing as mouse support in Myth |
| [16:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | there is a config option to not hide the mouse, but none of the buttons/widgets work with the mouse |
| [16:47:00] | FunkyELF: | Calim_the_Second, I'm talking about my video card, not my TV Tuner card. |
| [16:48:00] | Pete_: | GreyFoxx: Ah ok, I understand now :) |
| [16:48:00] | Pete_: | time to recompile with DVB enabled.. |
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| [16:49:00] | jd86: | The shows recorded are pretty big, is there a way of re encoding them automatically so they aren't so big? (quality is important, but it doesnt have to be the bestest) |
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| [16:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | jd86: You can configure Myth to auto transcode a show after it's recorded, but I don't use any of that so I can't tell you what settings are best to use |
| [16:53:00] | mwtb: | My mythweb schedule pages are displaying as if I'm in a different timezone. The MythFrontend guide is fine and the server date is fine. |
| [16:55:00] | roger55: | mwtb, I think that's a known bug. |
| [16:56:00] | mwtb: | Ah, okay. The recordings still seem to happen properly, so I guess I'll just wait for a fix. |
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| [16:59:00] | FunkyELF: | so MythFrontend freezes on me when I go to Job Queue. Anyone else experience that? |
| [17:00:00] | jd86: | I think its time to upgrade to a gigabit network |
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| [17:04:00] | FunkyELF: | where can I check for error messages? |
| [17:04:00] | FunkyELF: | When I go to system information->job queue, it freezes |
| [17:05:00] | Pete_: | im going through the mythtv-setup, im in stage 2. I select 'DVB DTV capture card (v3.x)' |
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| [17:06:00] | Pete_: | but it just says 'Recompile with DVB-Support!' |
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| [17:07:00] | Pete_: | although I did ./configure --enable-dvb |
| [17:09:00] | Pete_: | Im using a Hauppauge winTV-NOVA-T DVB.. any ideas? |
| [17:11:00] | jd86: | Does the main documentation explain how to automatically transcode? |
| [17:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | read it and find out ? |
| [17:13:00] | Pete_: | heh |
| [17:13:00] | FunkyELF: | GreyFoxx, have you ever heard of MythFrontend freezeing when going to System Information --> Job Queue? |
| [17:13:00] | jd86: | GreyFoxx: so much reading ;-) |
| [17:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | FunkyELF: Nope |
| [17:14:00] | Pete_: | i did a normal configure with no switches, it complained about no dvb support, did a make distclean, then ./configure --enable-dvb qmake .... etc, agh |
| [17:14:00] | FunkyELF: | GreyFoxx, do you know where I could check for errors to see what the problem may be? |
| [17:15:00] | FunkyELF: | GreyFoxx, when I start mythfrontend from a terminal and it freezes I see no errors in the terminal. Also, no errors in /var/log/mythtv |
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| [17:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | FunkL OIffhand no |
| [17:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | Other than enabling verbose output |
| [17:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythfrontend -v all |
| [17:33:00] | jd86: | what could a flashing like bar thing on the top of the screen when watching tv mean? |
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| [17:43:00] | jd86: | ah i cant stop the dvd |
| [17:43:00] | jd86: | and its playing the wrong language :( |
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| [17:53:00] | Pete_: | any ideas why mythtv-setup is always telling me to Recompile with DVB-Support! ? |
| [17:54:00] | Pete_: | is the svn broken for DVB or am I doing something wrong.. |
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| [17:56:00] | beavis: | mythfrontend --version |
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| [17:57:00] | Pete_: | 0.19.20050712–1 |
| [17:57:00] | Pete_: | Options compiled in: |
| [17:57:00] | Pete_: | linux release using_v4l using_oss using_alsa using_jack using_ivtv using_dbox2 using_lirc using_joystick_menu using_x11 using_xv using_xrandr using_frontend using_backend |
| [17:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | Pete_: Either you didn't actually install the newly compiled version or you have another one on your system that is conflicting |
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| [17:59:00] | Pete_: | ok, I ran make uninstall in my mythtv source folder, mythtvfrontend etc not found so I guess its all removed. make install as root, but its still not saying anything about dvb in mythtvfrontend --version |
| [17:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | Did you previously install from source ? |
| [18:00:00] | Pete_: | GreyFoxx: I Installed from the stable source 0.18.1 or something? |
| [18:00:00] | Pete_: | no wait I didn't, there was an error just into the make |
| [18:01:00] | Pete_: | thats what gave me the idea of trying the svn |
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| [18:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | when did you last do a make install ? |
| [18:01:00] | snerfu: | I am ripping one of my dvd's and both the mythdvd temp area, and mythvideo directories are owned by my mythtv user, the rip completes successfully. When I look at the mythvideo directory, I can see the file there. When the job completes the file is gone. |
| [18:01:00] | Pete_: | GreyFoxx: About 20 secs ago |
| [18:02:00] | Pete_: | in my SVN checkout folder, where I just built from |
| [18:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | Pete_: Ok so does the time stamp on this match that? : ls -la `which mythfrontend` |
| [18:03:00] | Pete_: | 2005-10–15 17:02 /usr/local/bin/mythfrontend |
| [18:03:00] | Pete_: | I suppose it would have been that long ago by now (its 17.07 on this box now) |
| [18:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | when you did the ./configure did the output say it was going to include dvb support ? |
| [18:04:00] | Pete_: | Ah. |
| [18:04:00] | Pete_: | DVB support no [/usr/src/linux-2.6.13-15-default/include] |
| [18:05:00] | gloin: | I'm having some trouble transcoding .nuv files – mencoder says this file is not recognized/supported. Is this just a case of needing to recompile mencoder? |
| [18:06:00] | gloin: | I'm guessing this would explain why mythtv isn't transcoding files like I ask it to upon show completion |
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| [18:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | The built in transcoding doesn't use mencoder and would most certainly understand the file format |
| [18:07:00] | Pete_: | I see, my kernel source is in /usr/src/linux-2.6.13–15/ with no -default. I guess a link should do the trick ;) |
| [18:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | as for mencoder it could very well require a patch to support the myth nuv format |
| [18:07:00] | gloin: | GreyFoxx: interesting. Do you have an example command for me to try manually transcoding a nuv file? |
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| [18:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | gloin: Not really |
| [18:08:00] | gloin: | =[ |
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| [18:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've used transcode manually and nuvexport in the past to transcode |
| [18:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | but never one of the .nuvs from a software card |
| [18:09:00] | gloin: | eh, I thought I had a hardware card |
| [18:09:00] | gloin: | also nuvexport isn't installed here |
| [18:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | which card is it ? |
| [18:09:00] | gloin: | the bt878 |
| [18:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | That is not a hardware encoding card |
| [18:09:00] | gloin: | =[ |
| [18:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | So all of the compression is done by the cpu in real time |
| [18:11:00] | Pete_: | DVB support yes [/usr/src/linux-2.6.13-15-default/include] |
| [18:11:00] | Pete_: | Thats more like it :) |
| [18:12:00] | gloin: | ok, I have nuvexport now... |
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| [18:20:00] | philby: | Does anyone have any experience setting up an old (philips chip) PCI Nova-t with kernel 2.6.13? |
| [18:21:00] | snerfu: | When you rip a perfect copy of a DVD, the vob file it creates is an mpeg2 video right? |
| [18:26:00] | gloin: | hmm |
| [18:26:00] | gloin: | the problem seems to be with mythtranscode |
| [18:26:00] | gloin: | it creates the pipes but doesn't go any further |
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| [18:31:00] | opello: | snerfu: i think so, there may be more to it though |
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| [18:33:00] | snerfu: | ahh ok |
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| [18:37:00] | Pete_: | Ok, It detects my dvb card, I go into 4. Input Connections (mythtv-setup) set video source : to DVB, but pressing on scan for channels it goes to another page, 'scan type: "failed to open the card"' |
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| [18:45:00] | Niklas_E: | can you use the mythtv for analog tv channels? |
| [18:45:00] | laga: | yes. |
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| [18:48:00] | philby: | Does anyone know how to resolve a "tda1004x: found firmware revision 0 — invalid" error with a philips chipset Nova-T ? |
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| [19:07:00] | Niklas_E: | how do I start the master backend? |
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| [19:15:00] | Niklas_E: | it can search for channels right? |
| [19:17:00] | Pete_: | anyone know why its saying 'failed to open the card' |
| [19:17:00] | Pete_: | mythtv-setup |
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| [19:44:00] | beavis: | Pete_: probably your backend is running |
| [19:45:00] | Pete_: | beavis: Pretty sure its not. Just restarted, it didn't work again, not sure why but now it is scanning |
| [19:45:00] | Niklas_E: | can you scan for channels somehow? |
| [19:46:00] | Pete_: | Niklas_E: It seems to be scanning now, I have no idea why but it seems to be |
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| [19:46:00] | Mortis: | Look at http://www.muzyka.oz.pl |
| [19:47:00] | Pete_: | err..? |
| [19:47:00] | Mortis: | just look there |
| [19:47:00] | Pete_: | sweet. Its adding channels. That must be good :) |
| [19:48:00] | Pete_: | Mortis: Err.. its in polish? |
| [19:49:00] | Mortis: | yes, but you can download mp3's singed in english:) |
| [19:49:00] | Pete_: | Hmm, its skipping all the radio services, is there some way to make it add radio services? |
| [19:50:00] | Mortis: | I know but in the few days it will be new version of site |
| [19:50:00] | Pete_: | I was meaning with mythTV ;) |
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| [20:11:00] | Juski: | how's it going, peeps? |
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| [20:13:00] | mmurphy: | anyone here have a pvr350/250 and a 150 in the same box? |
| [20:13:00] | Pete_: | 2005-10–15 19:16:48.092 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5) |
| [20:13:00] | Pete_: | 2005-10–15 19:17:08.098 ReadStringList timeout (quick). |
| [20:13:00] | Pete_: | 2005-10–15 19:17:08.101 WriteStringList: Bad socket |
| [20:15:00] | Pete_: | then mythfrontend locks |
| [20:15:00] | Pete_: | followed by 'Reconnection to backend server failed' |
| [20:15:00] | Pete_: | although Im running mythbackend in another window |
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| [20:28:00] | Pete_: | anyone? |
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| [20:32:00] | AppleBoy: | ok, here's an interesting thing, I'm currently running mythfilldatabase, using zap2it.com services. and http://pastebin.com/394619 keeps happening. any ideas? |
| [20:33:00] | AppleBoy: | actually, updated: http://pastebin.com/394620 |
| [20:36:00] | BaZiL: | how do i know what videounit i should choose when i set up my PVR 350 ? |
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| [20:37:00] | AppleBoy: | videounit? |
| [20:38:00] | AppleBoy: | hrmm, let me check |
| [20:38:00] | Juski: | as in.. /dev/video'x' |
| [20:39:00] | BaZiL: | ya |
| [20:39:00] | BaZiL: | how do i know witch to set ? |
| [20:39:00] | Juski: | IIRC, you want /dev/video0 for the input and /dev/video32 for the output |
| [20:40:00] | Juski: | don't take that as gospel though.. I don't use hauppauge kit |
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| [20:42:00] | ** Juski finally won the battle with apache.. runs sweetly now ** | |
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| [20:45:00] | Juski: | and BaZiL... do a little reading on the subject ;) |
| [20:47:00] | BaZiL: | juski .. i am .. i mean .. im trying .. having a hard time getting my system to actually go along with the infos on how2 set it up |
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| [20:47:00] | Juski: | ahh the old chestnut of prerequisite know-how |
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| [20:48:00] | brejc8: | Anyione using the latest svn with DVB? The SI parser seems to start every 5 minutes and hogs a decent anmmount of CPU time. Anyone know how to get it to only do that at night? |
| [20:50:00] | FunkyELF: | hey y'all |
| [20:50:00] | FunkyELF: | if I want to start fresh...running mythsetup and everything all over again, can I just delete all tables in mythconverg? |
| [20:50:00] | FunkyELF: | ...or do I need to leave the tables and get rid of the rows in those tables? |
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| [20:50:00] | Juski: | you can, so long as you re-initialise the database again |
| [20:51:00] | Juski: | brejc8: sorry, no |
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| [20:53:00] | Juski: | any particular reason you're running svn, brejc8 ? |
| [20:54:00] | brejc8: | Juski: I have my own patches I am working on and didnt want to get too far behind the svn |
| [20:54:00] | Juski: | ahh understood :) |
| [20:55:00] | brejc8: | Its not a big problem but it does consume 50% of my 2.4 Celeron |
| [20:55:00] | Juski: | the SI parser... sheesh that's not good |
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| [20:55:00] | Juski: | that's where the channel tables etc get updated isn't it? |
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| [20:57:00] | _Nero_: | Anyone here having troubles with FC4 cutting off your sound card IRQ? (the "nobody cares" issue??) |
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| [20:59:00] | _Nero_: | er.. nobody cared even |
| [20:59:00] | apple: | argg, mythsetup keeps crashing my system :( |
| [20:59:00] | _Nero_: | apple- nvidia card? |
| [20:59:00] | apple: | yeah |
| [20:59:00] | _Nero_: | make sure you dont have renderaccel enabled.. |
| [21:00:00] | apple: | :/ |
| [21:00:00] | _Nero_: | in your x config file.. |
| [21:01:00] | apple: | well, brb |
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| [21:03:00] | AppleBoy: | didn't help any |
| [21:03:00] | _Nero_: | where is it crashing? |
| [21:03:00] | AppleBoy: | after the first two questions |
| [21:03:00] | cosmo_: | does anyone use a usb gamepad as a mythtv remote? Is this possible? I figure if Im going to have an emulator, might as well not buy two devices...... |
| [21:04:00] | _Nero_: | how does it crash? Screen just freeze up? |
| [21:04:00] | AppleBoy: | it will stall for a few there, then the whole system freezes |
| [21:05:00] | _Nero_: | can you still ssh in? is it X that is frozen or the entire OS? |
| [21:05:00] | AppleBoy: | err, after i answer the second question, it will go to the background, as if it's trying to load the rest, and then after about 10 seconds the whole system freezes |
| [21:05:00] | AppleBoy: | entireOS |
| [21:05:00] | _Nero_: | humm.. not sure then.. the problems I was having were 100% X... |
| [21:05:00] | _Nero_: | sorry.. :/ |
| [21:05:00] | mmurphy: | im trying to get a pvr350 working ... i have ivtv installed and when i do: # /sbin/modprobe ivtv i get no results .... doing: # /sbin/lspci -v doesn't list the pvr350 card ... im assuming its a problem in my etc/modprob.conf .... can anyone help? |
| [21:07:00] | mchou: | mmurphy: if lspci doesnt list it it means the card is not fully seated in the slot. |
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| [21:15:00] | mmurphy: | ha ha that simple? |
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| [21:23:00] | AppleBoy: | god damn that's getting on my nerves |
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| [21:27:00] | AppleBoy: | w00t, didn't crash this time! |
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| [21:28:00] | BaZiL: | who can i bribe to set up my totally newly installed but fuckedup system ? |
| [21:28:00] | AppleBoy: | http://pastebin.com/394679 <-- my error when mythtv-setup crashes |
| [21:29:00] | mmurphy: | mchou: Could it not be with my /etc/modprobe.conf ?? |
| [21:29:00] | BaZiL: | im to stupid to do it myself ;( |
| [21:29:00] | AppleBoy: | does it really need the backend to be setup before I can run mythsetup? |
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| [21:31:00] | _Nero_: | no.. run mythtv-setup before you run the backend.. |
| [21:32:00] | _Nero_: | (mythtv-setup sets up everything for the backend) |
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| [21:32:00] | _Nero_: | I think the error you are getting is not related to mythbackend, but to lirc not being found. |
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| [21:33:00] | _Nero_: | and those errors didn't keep mythtv-setup from setting everything up for you.. now you need to run mythfilldatabase to fill the db with all your programming, then mythbackend. |
| [21:33:00] | FunkyELF: | anyone here got s/pdif working on linux? |
| [21:37:00] | AppleBoy: | _Nero_: then does mythtv-setup need to be ran as root? |
| [21:37:00] | Juski: | FunkyELF: yup |
| [21:37:00] | FunkyELF: | Juski, I can't figure it out. I was playing around in alsamixer but didn't see an option in there for it |
| [21:37:00] | FunkyELF: | Juski, where do I enable that? |
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| [21:37:00] | _Nero_: | AppleBoy- I dont think so. I have always run it as my mythtv user. |
| [21:38:00] | AppleBoy: | hrmm |
| [21:38:00] | Juski: | it's not called SPDIF in alsamixer |
| [21:38:00] | Juski: | you'll know it when you see it |
| [21:38:00] | _Nero_: | All of the config stuff is stored in the database, so it is user independent.. |
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| [21:38:00] | FunkyELF: | Juski, okay....so if alsamixer doesn't show it, does that mean that I don't have the right drivers for it?...need to recompile kernel? |
| [21:38:00] | AppleBoy: | where does it put the temporary config data? |
| [21:38:00] | _Nero_: | I dont see any errors listed there that are of any consequence. It simply is saying it cant find lirc running. |
| [21:39:00] | _Nero_: | Which temporary config data? |
| [21:39:00] | FunkyELF: | what buttons do I use in alsamixer? all I figured out was left / right / up / down.... |
| [21:39:00] | Juski: | FunkyElf... I said it's not called SPDIF in alsamixer |
| [21:39:00] | AppleBoy: | well, I ran mythsetup as user appleboy, while it's going to mythfilldatabase it has to store the info somewhere |
| [21:39:00] | Juski: | not 'it's not in alsamixer' |
| [21:40:00] | _Nero_: | Ohh.. mythfilldatabase only does programming info.. |
| [21:40:00] | _Nero_: | there are tables for config/preferences in the database as well, that mythtv-setup sets up. |
| [21:41:00] | _Nero_: | (you run mythfilldatabase every day to keep your programming data up to date) |
| [21:41:00] | Pete_: | Im running mythfilldatabase, It gets to HASH(0x8d9419c), but then stops.. Does it take some time at this point or something? |
| [21:44:00] | FunkyELF: | Juski, I have everything turned all the way up....no sound |
| [21:48:00] | xris: | Pete_: where are you seeing that HASH stuff? |
| [21:50:00] | Pete_: | im running mythfilldatabase, it says some stuff about "RT id 1951 (TV Warehouse) not known in channel ids file"; "RT id 1952 (Thane Direct) not known in channel ids file" then gives me that hash bit |
| [21:51:00] | AppleBoy: | http://pastebin.com/394694 <-- what happens when I run mythfilldatabase |
| [21:52:00] | _Nero_: | AppleBoy- it looks like it updated your database. |
| [21:52:00] | AppleBoy: | _Nero_: look at the bottom though |
| [21:53:00] | _Nero_: | ahhhh.. doh.. you need to run mythbackend first.. my bad.. |
| [21:53:00] | _Nero_: | run mythbackend & |
| [21:53:00] | _Nero_: | then mythfilldatabase |
| [21:54:00] | xris: | Pete_: the HASH thing is perl internal stuff. pretty sure you shouldn't be seeing it. |
| [21:54:00] | xris: | sounds like an error message to me, actually |
| [21:54:00] | AppleBoy: | does mythbackend need to be ran as the same user, or can that be ran by a different user? |
| [21:55:00] | _Nero_: | It can be run as any user that has write access to wherever you are storing your recordings. |
| [21:56:00] | _Nero_: | I beleive I have mine setup to run as the same user as mythfrontend (a user called "mythtv") |
| [21:56:00] | AppleBoy: | I would do the same except I don't just use this system for mythtv |
| [21:57:00] | _Nero_: | cant help too much for that one.. it has been ages since I set all that stuff up.. :/ |
| [21:58:00] | AppleBoy: | no worries |
| [21:58:00] | _Nero_: | AppleBoy.. you a Mac user? |
| [21:58:00] | AppleBoy: | no |
| [21:58:00] | AppleBoy: | gentoo linux |
| [21:59:00] | _Nero_: | gotcha.. (I use Macs all the time.. was wondering about the "apple" bit ;) ) |
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| [22:00:00] | AppleBoy: | I love macs :D |
| [22:01:00] | _Nero_: | hehe.. as do I (typing from my trusty old 1ghz TiBook right now. :D ) |
| [22:02:00] | AppleBoy: | it said it couldn't connect to the database :( |
| [22:03:00] | AppleBoy: | err, backend |
| [22:03:00] | _Nero_: | ps -A grep | mythbackend |
| [22:03:00] | _Nero_: | er.. |
| [22:03:00] | _Nero_: | ps -A | grep mythbackend |
| [22:03:00] | AppleBoy: | /mnt/mythtv/nfslockfile.lock: Permission denied |
| [22:04:00] | AppleBoy: | 2005-10–15 13:03:37.339 Channel(/dev/video32)::Open(): Can't open video device, error "No such device" |
| [22:04:00] | AppleBoy: | which video device would the HD3000 be? |
| [22:04:00] | _Nero_: | I have no idea.. :/ |
| [22:04:00] | _Nero_: | haven't messed with HD stuff at all. |
| [22:06:00] | Pete_: | On this page im also trying the script http://www.ethics-gradient.net/myth/mythdvb2.html |
| [22:06:00] | Pete_: | at the bottom : Using the Freeview EPG For Programme Listings |
| [22:07:00] | Pete_: | its making that massive XML file, but it doesn't seem to be putting it into the database.. |
| [22:08:00] | AppleBoy: | http://pastebin.com/394716 <-- current error |
| [22:08:00] | Pete_: | looking at the database with phpMyAdmin the whole mythconverg database is 114.2kb |
| [22:13:00] | Cardoe: | Pete_: that's tiny |
| [22:14:00] | Pete_: | Cardoe: Exactly, for whatever reason mythfilldatabase not putting the channel listings into the database |
| [22:15:00] | Pete_: | could the fact the whatson.xml contains stuff like <programme channel="4220.dvb.guide" start="20051015195000" stop="20051015203500"> |
| [22:15:00] | Pete_: | do I need to make it say something different in channel="4220.dvb.guide" > |
| [22:15:00] | Pete_: | ?* |
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| [22:20:00] | cougar_h: | anyone here who use lastest svn with pvr500 (or pvr150) card ? |
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| [22:22:00] | xris: | cougar_h: how recent? mine's a couple weeks old |
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| [22:26:00] | AppleBoy: | well, I figured out the permissions thingy |
| [22:27:00] | AppleBoy: | didn't completely help though :/ |
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| [22:29:00] | Pete_: | I see, its giving stuff like Unknown xmltv channel identifier: 12867.dvb.guide; Skipping channel. |
| [22:29:00] | cougar_h: | xris: I have latest mythbackend and latest ivtv |
| [22:30:00] | Pete_: | How do I know what to call them though? |
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| [22:30:00] | cougar_h: | xris: and doesn't work. looks like mythtv tries to do something that ivtv doesn't like. after that /dev/video doesn't work any more and only ivtv module reload helps |
| [22:31:00] | cougar_h: | Pete_: check your tv_grab_... output for example |
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| [22:32:00] | Pete_: | cougar_h: thats giving stuff like <programme channel="4220.dvb.guide" start="20051018152500" stop="20051018154000"> out still |
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| [22:34:00] | AppleBoy: | ok, I'm getting really close, but I still have the problem that I can't actually get video |
| [22:34:00] | xris: | cougar_h: most likely an ivtv issue, then. I haven't upgraded my ivtv in ages because what I have works. |
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| [22:37:00] | AppleBoy: | 2005-10–15 13:36:38.932 HD buffer size 275 KB |
| [22:37:00] | AppleBoy: | 2005-10–15 13:36:38.935 Channel(/dev/video32)::Open(): Can't open video device, error "No such device" |
| [22:37:00] | AppleBoy: | latest error |
| [22:39:00] | xris: | AppleBoy: are the dvb drivers loaded? |
| [22:41:00] | AppleBoy: | http://pastebin.com/394746 |
| [22:41:00] | AppleBoy: | yes |
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| [22:46:00] | Watje: | MythWeb gives me Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/includes/init.php on line 54 |
| [22:46:00] | Watje: | but php4-mysql is installed and phpmyadmin works fine |
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| [22:47:00] | AppleBoy: | what did you install mythweb from? |
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| [22:49:00] | FunkyELF: | I have got xmms to play using s/pdif but it sounds a little garbled....during certain parts of the songs it'll fade out |
| [22:50:00] | FunkyELF: | does anyone here use a pvr-500mce and use s/pdif? |
| [22:50:00] | Watje: | AppleBoy, the plugins package |
| [22:50:00] | Watje: | also tried with apt-get (ubuntu) |
| [22:51:00] | AppleBoy: | hrmm |
| [22:52:00] | AppleBoy: | dunno, I'm still trying to get my card to work |
| [22:52:00] | Watje: | ah ok |
| [22:52:00] | AppleBoy: | what card do you use? |
| [22:53:00] | Watje: | hauppauge pvr 150 |
| [22:53:00] | AppleBoy: | 2005-10–15 13:36:38.935 Channel(/dev/video32)::Open(): Can't open video device, error "No such device" <-- what device is it supposed to be? |
| [22:54:00] | Watje: | /dev/video0 |
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| [22:55:00] | mvanbaak: | heya all |
| [22:55:00] | mvanbaak: | can someone tell me where to change channel frequencies in the mythconverg database ? |
| [22:56:00] | Watje: | channels |
| [22:56:00] | Watje: | :D |
| [22:56:00] | AppleBoy: | actually, I don't know what I did exactly, but it fixed something |
| [22:56:00] | Watje: | did you loose your glasses, or are you just lazy |
| [22:56:00] | mvanbaak: | hhmm, I don't have that table |
| [22:57:00] | AppleBoy: | is it a row? |
| [22:58:00] | Watje: | I have a table called channel |
| [22:59:00] | Pete_: | can someone please help me in setting up mythtv to get DVB-T program information in the uk? |
| [22:59:00] | mvanbaak: | Watje: yeah me too |
| [22:59:00] | mvanbaak: | was looking at the wrong database |
| [23:00:00] | Watje: | ah ok |
| [23:00:00] | mvanbaak: | what field is the frequency ? |
| [23:00:00] | Watje: | freqid |
| [23:00:00] | mvanbaak: | is that in Hz ? |
| [23:00:00] | mvanbaak: | or Mhz ? |
| [23:01:00] | Watje: | depends on the command that you use to change the channels |
| [23:01:00] | mvanbaak: | I used tv_grab_nl |
| [23:01:00] | Watje: | thats for the guide |
| [23:02:00] | mvanbaak: | it gave me the message to run mythfill<something> --manual |
| [23:02:00] | Watje: | which tvcard do you have? |
| [23:02:00] | AppleBoy: | 2005-10–15 14:01:29.492 Channel(/dev/video0)::CheckSignalFull(): input = 0 |
| [23:02:00] | AppleBoy: | 2005-10–15 14:01:29.492 Channel(/dev/video0)::CheckSignal(5000, 65, 0): usingv4l2(1) |
| [23:02:00] | AppleBoy: | 2005-10–15 14:01:29.493 Channel(18)::signalStrengthATSC_v4l2(): signal strength: 0 |
| [23:02:00] | mvanbaak: | PVR-500 |
| [23:02:00] | Watje: | ivtvctl -r |
| [23:02:00] | AppleBoy: | and I know it has signal |
| [23:02:00] | Watje: | and the Mhz * 16 |
| [23:02:00] | Watje: | as argument |
| [23:03:00] | Pete_: | mvanbaak: I used tv_grab_uk_rt |
| [23:03:00] | mvanbaak: | michiel@myth:~$ ivtvctl -r 976 |
| [23:03:00] | mvanbaak: | ioctl VIDIOC_S_FREQUENCY ok |
| [23:03:00] | mvanbaak: | Frequency set to 976 |
| [23:03:00] | Pete_: | but the output is no use, mythfilldatabase doesn't like it |
| [23:04:00] | AppleBoy: | anybody have any idea on that one? |
| [23:04:00] | Watje: | 976? |
| [23:04:00] | mvanbaak: | yeah |
| [23:04:00] | AppleBoy: | because I know the line is working |
| [23:04:00] | mvanbaak: | tv station "Netherlands 1" is on 61 Mhz |
| [23:04:00] | Watje: | ah ok |
| [23:04:00] | Watje: | Nederland 1 203.250 |
| [23:04:00] | Watje: | here |
| [23:05:00] | Watje: | and 189.250 is the lowest (Nederlands 3) |
| [23:05:00] | AppleBoy: | I wish I knew where all the configs were stored so I could post the info and see what you guys think |
| [23:05:00] | Watje: | so I was wondering how you could get 976 ;p |
| [23:05:00] | AppleBoy: | and figure out why I can't get the signal |
| [23:05:00] | mvanbaak: | watje :) |
| [23:05:00] | mvanbaak: | ok, so I did the ivtvctl -r |
| [23:05:00] | mvanbaak: | but how can I store all those frequencies in mythtv so I can actually do something with it ? |
| [23:06:00] | mvanbaak: | I did enter all the ChannelID's as listed in my normal tv when running mythfilldatabase --manual |
| [23:06:00] | Watje: | in mythtvsetup you must choose 'ivtvctl -r' as external command to change the frequencie |
| [23:06:00] | mvanbaak: | but all the channels are showing something, but really snowy |
| [23:07:00] | Watje: | also with ivtvctl -r + Mhz*16? |
| [23:08:00] | mvanbaak: | aaaaaaaaaah |
| [23:09:00] | mvanbaak: | so in mythtv-setup |
| [23:09:00] | Watje: | yes |
| [23:09:00] | Pete_: | anyone? :( |
| [23:09:00] | mvanbaak: | input connections |
| [23:09:00] | mvanbaak: | choose /dev/video0 Tuner 0 |
| [23:09:00] | mvanbaak: | command to change channel |
| [23:09:00] | mvanbaak: | "ivtvctl -r' |
| [23:10:00] | Watje: | yes |
| [23:10:00] | mvanbaak: | and where do I put the 'Mhz *16' ? |
| [23:10:00] | Watje: | in the database |
| [23:10:00] | Watje: | or with the channel editor |
| [23:10:00] | Watje: | whatever you prefer |
| [23:10:00] | mvanbaak: | channel-editor/2nd screen -> freq id |
| [23:10:00] | mvanbaak: | ? |
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| [23:12:00] | findme: | want to download movies:-) |
| [23:12:00] | Watje: | mvanbaak, yes |
| [23:13:00] | Watje: | so Nederland 1 is 13252 in my case |
| [23:13:00] | Pete_: | is anyone here using mythtv, and dvb-t in the UK? |
| [23:14:00] | mvanbaak: | ok |
| [23:14:00] | mvanbaak: | I did ned1 and ned2 with the help of my normal TV set config |
| [23:14:00] | mvanbaak: | running /etc/cron.daily/mythbackend now |
| [23:14:00] | mvanbaak: | after that I will try to see if it works |
| [23:14:00] | Watje: | :) |
| [23:15:00] | mvanbaak: | hhmm |
| [23:15:00] | AppleBoy: | shouldn |
| [23:16:00] | AppleBoy: | err |
| [23:16:00] | mvanbaak: | why is '21' my lowest channel |
| [23:16:00] | AppleBoy: | shouldn't a raw feed from my cable provider work on the HD3000 ? |
| [23:21:00] | FunkyELF: | does anyone know how to route all audio to s/pdif ? It seems to be applicationwise. I figured it out for xmms, but not for mplayer. |
| [23:31:00] | Pete_: | is there anyone here?! |
| [23:34:00] | AppleBoy: | yes, but I'm still waiting to get my card working |
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| [23:36:00] | Pete_: | ah, im wanting to get listings working |
| [23:37:00] | AppleBoy: | didn't you use zap2it? |
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| [23:37:00] | Pete_: | no |
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| [23:40:00] | AppleBoy: | why don't you? |
| [23:41:00] | Pete_: | im just having a look how to get it going |
| [23:41:00] | cougar_h: | Pete_: actually, I have the same problem with 0.4.0. looks like mythtv side is broken |
| [23:41:00] | Pete_: | cougar_h: you can't get any listings either? |
| [23:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | cougar_h: What problem ? |
| [23:42:00] | cougar_h: | Pete_: card works when I just read /dev/video0 but after using mythtv it just hangs |
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| [23:43:00] | cougar_h: | here is what mythtv shows: |
| [23:43:00] | cougar_h: | 2005-10–16 00:40:31.649 TVRec(1): Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| [23:43:00] | cougar_h: | select timeout |
| [23:43:00] | cougar_h: | select timeout |
| [23:43:00] | cougar_h: | select timeout |
| [23:43:00] | cougar_h: | 2005-10–16 00:40:48.941 RingBuffer: Couldn't read data from the capture card in 15 seconds. Stopping. |
| [23:43:00] | Pete_: | cougar_h: I get that sometimes |
| [23:43:00] | cougar_h: | and after that I can't get any data from /dev/video0 any more |
| [23:44:00] | Pete_: | so.. err.. how do I get mythtv and zap2it working? |
| [23:45:00] | cougar_h: | but I can still read /dev/video1 (not configured in mythtv) |
| [23:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Pete_: You are in the UK right ? |
| [23:45:00] | mvanbaak: | Watje: u still here ? |
| [23:45:00] | Pete_: | GreyFoxx: Yes |
| [23:45:00] | Watje: | mvanbaak, yes |
| [23:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Then I don't think zap2it (or at least DataDirect) will be of use to you |
| [23:45:00] | mvanbaak: | I updated all the freqid's |
| [23:45:00] | Watje: | but the godfather starts in 5 minutes |
| [23:45:00] | Watje: | ok |
| [23:45:00] | mvanbaak: | and mythfrontend works |
| [23:46:00] | mvanbaak: | I can select 'wath tv' |
| [23:46:00] | Watje: | \\o |
| [23:46:00] | Pete_: | GreyFoxx: Ah ok. I can't get anything to get listings to work.. |
| [23:46:00] | mvanbaak: | and when I hit the up arrow |
| [23:46:00] | mvanbaak: | it changes from 1 to 2 |
| [23:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | Pete_: I don't know anything about the UK listings grabbers |
| [23:46:00] | mvanbaak: | it also shows the channel icon |
| [23:46:00] | mvanbaak: | and the program info |
| [23:46:00] | Pete_: | GreyFoxx: Ok, thanks anyway. |
| [23:46:00] | Watje: | ok, so everything works |
| [23:46:00] | mvanbaak: | but the tv-signal remains 'rtl7' blurry |
| [23:46:00] | mvanbaak: | it isn't changing the tuner |
| [23:47:00] | Watje: | hmm k |
| [23:47:00] | mvanbaak: | I did setup the 'change command' to ivtvctl -r |
| [23:47:00] | mvanbaak: | I ran /etc/cron.daily/mythtv-backend |
| [23:47:00] | Watje: | You should also initialize the card with ivtvctl as well. The commands I use are below: |
| [23:47:00] | Watje: | ivtvctl -d /dev/video0 -p 6 -f width=720,height=576 -u 1 |
| [23:47:00] | Watje: | ivtvctl -d /dev/video1 -p 6 -f width=720,height=576 -u 1 |
| [23:47:00] | Watje: | sorry |
| [23:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | mvanbaak: Huh.,.... you changed the "change channel" command to call the ivtvctl app ? |
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| [23:48:00] | Watje: | and ivtvctl -d /dev/video 0 -r Mhz*16 |
| [23:48:00] | Watje: | to change the channel |
| [23:48:00] | Watje: | <- pvr 150, so i don't have a dual tuner |
| [23:48:00] | Watje: | and ivtvctl -d /dev/video0 -r Mhz*16 |
| [23:48:00] | Watje: | whoa sorry |
| [23:49:00] | mvanbaak: | yes GreyFoxx |
| [23:49:00] | Watje: | godfather is now at Veronica |
| [23:49:00] | Watje: | so i'm leaving |
| [23:50:00] | mvanbaak: | ok |
| [23:50:00] | AppleBoy: | Watje: do you know anything about the HD3000? |
| [23:51:00] | Watje: | AppleBoy, no sorry |
| [23:51:00] | Watje: | but google does |
| [23:51:00] | AppleBoy: | I'm getting signal strength: 0, and all the other errors to go with it, but I know it has signal |
| [23:51:00] | AppleBoy: | I checked google to no avail |
| [23:51:00] | AppleBoy: | I've been through hundreds of posts :/ |
| [23:53:00] | AppleBoy: | http://pchdtv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1058 |
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