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| [00:05:00] | tv: | how do I make it not record so that it won't be delayed? I just want to watch live tv |
| [00:05:00] | ** Juski has been an ignoramus tonight.. and apologises ** | |
| [00:06:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Dude, no worries. :) |
| [00:07:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Nobody knows everything. Oh, except Chutt. |
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| [00:08:00] | Juski: | that's the thing about progress I guess.. you think you know something, then it changes ;) |
| [00:08:00] | Juski: | anyway – it's **friday** tomorrow (wooo!) |
| [00:09:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Gentoo is getting a bit weird, as alot of "behind the scenes" work is no longer very visible via the Forums and alot happens on subprojects on www.gentoo.org, planet gentoo, the gentoo wiki, etc. Getting fractured. |
| [00:10:00] | Juski: | I'm starting to think wikis are evil |
| [00:10:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: And there's a lot of subproject IRC channels now. |
| [00:10:00] | Juski: | anyway.. time for bedski |
| [00:10:00] | Juski: | night all :) |
| [00:10:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Nite. |
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| [00:12:00] | tv: | how do I make mythfrontend not be lagged? |
| [00:12:00] | drb: | -fortune riddle |
| [00:12:00] | drb: | hm |
| [00:12:00] | drb: | wrong window. ;) |
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| [00:16:00] | Rince: | evening |
| [00:16:00] | Urgo: | tv: its lagged like 1 sec, deal with it ;) |
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| [00:16:00] | Rince: | question: where in the frontend can I set up how to find the backend-Server on Port 6543? currently it tries everytime 127.0.0.1... |
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| [00:18:00] | smoke_: | does anyone know where i get the keypress input functions in myth? |
| [00:18:00] | Urgo: | Rince: /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt perhaps has your answer.. not a port, but it has the hostname at least |
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| [00:18:00] | smoke_: | i see some stuff in globalsettings.cpp but it doenst seem to be the right keypress |
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| [00:22:00] | Rince: | Urgo: no, not there |
| [00:22:00] | Rince: | Urgo: there he finds the mysql-Database, but not the mythtv-backend |
| [00:22:00] | Rince: | and I need the backend |
| [00:22:00] | Rince: | I hope it's not hardcoded... :) |
| [00:22:00] | Urgo: | oh |
| [00:23:00] | Urgo: | you want to run mythsetup |
| [00:23:00] | Urgo: | goto general setup |
| [00:23:00] | Urgo: | because when mythfrontend runs it connects to the sql server and reads those :) |
| [00:23:00] | Urgo: | change it to something other then 127.0.0.1 |
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| [00:25:00] | gate: | can anyone point me to some help on why a one of my 3 tv cards would not change to the correct channel when recording. It always stays at the default channel. The other two seem to work fine. If watching live tv on that tunner i can change channels with no problems. |
| [00:25:00] | FunkyELF: | is there a way to lock down mythweb using a password or something? |
| [00:25:00] | overridex_: | is there anyway to toggle window or fullscreen mythfrontend on the fly? |
| [00:26:00] | gate: | funkyelf, setup your web server to require login for that area |
| [00:26:00] | FunkyELF: | any good wiki's for that....is it simple? |
| [00:27:00] | gate: | are you using apache |
| [00:27:00] | FunkyELF: | yup |
| [00:27:00] | FunkyELF: | ...what else is there in the linux world? |
| [00:27:00] | gate: | I'm sure there are others |
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| [00:29:00] | FunkyELF: | gate, what is that method called? what do I search for? |
| [00:29:00] | Urgo: | setup an .htaccess |
| [00:30:00] | gate: | there is a simple config setup for it at the apache site |
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| [00:30:00] | gate: | mod_auth is what it might be called |
| [00:30:00] | Urgo: | http://www.htmlite.com/HTA006.php |
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| [00:41:00] | jd86: | How does the commercial skipping work? |
| [00:42:00] | Randall64: | It detects blank frames by default. |
| [00:42:00] | jd86: | oh |
| [00:42:00] | mmurphy: | what other ways can it work? |
| [00:42:00] | jd86: | can it do it for live tv too? |
| [00:43:00] | Randall64: | It can do it on the fly I know, but dunno about livetv |
| [00:43:00] | mmurphy: | Randall64: are ther other ways of detecting commertials it can do? |
| [00:43:00] | Randall64: | I've never seen the option, but would you want it to just sit there quietly if you weren't way back in the buffer? |
| [00:43:00] | Randall64: | mmurphy: yeah |
| [00:44:00] | mmurphy: | Randall64: such as? |
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| [00:44:00] | Randall64: | mmurphy: It's in the menus, can't recall. |
| [00:44:00] | mmurphy: | awe i'll have ot check it out .. |
| [00:44:00] | mmurphy: | Randall64: setup or frontend options? |
| [00:45:00] | Randall64: | frontend |
| [00:45:00] | Randall64: | setup should go away |
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| [00:45:00] | mmurphy: | i'll check it out!\ |
| [00:45:00] | mmurphy: | thanks |
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| [00:49:00] | FunkyELF: | any ideas on how to get onboard spdif working? |
| [00:49:00] | mmurphy: | Randall64: you know anythign about fc? |
| [00:49:00] | FunkyELF: | I plugged in my headphones into an output on the motherboard and I was getting audio |
| [00:49:00] | FunkyELF: | ...but I want digital audio |
| [00:50:00] | Randall64: | mmurphy: enough to avoid it |
| [00:50:00] | mmurphy: | Randall64: ha ha ha ... awe darn :-( |
| [00:51:00] | Randall64: | mmurphy: As it relates to mythtv, Jarod's howto is supposed to be decent |
| [00:51:00] | mmurphy: | i know i used it to setup .. great! but now i need to install a second card pvr150 |
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| [00:52:00] | Randall64: | Did you run into problems? |
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| [00:58:00] | mmurphy: | Randall64: haven't tried yet ... trying to figure out what i need, if i need to im trying t figure what verion of drivers i have to see if i need to update |
| [01:02:00] | mmurphy: | anyone else know about fc2? |
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| [01:08:00] | SpaceBass: | hey folks |
| [01:08:00] | SpaceBass: | anyone have expirence with torrentocracy |
| [01:08:00] | SpaceBass: | ? |
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| [01:09:00] | klpt_____: | good evening |
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| [01:12:00] | FunkyELF: | anyone know how to enable s/pdif so the sound comes out of there? |
| [01:13:00] | FunkyELF: | ...I have it built in on my motherboard, but right now the only sound is coming out of the analog jacks |
| [01:13:00] | klpt_____: | http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/DigitalSoundHowTo |
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| [01:15:00] | klpt_____: | Anybody here using SVN? |
| [01:16:00] | rjune: | SpaceBass: that's a banned topic here |
| [01:16:00] | SpaceBass: | torrentocracy? |
| [01:16:00] | simon_c: | FunkyELF: Will be a mixer option won't it ? |
| [01:16:00] | SpaceBass: | seriously... this is the 5th time in this room channel and really not a very open place... |
| [01:16:00] | FunkyELF: | simon_c, I don't know...I didn't see it in alsamixer |
| [01:17:00] | SpaceBass: | there are thousands and thousands of LEGAL torrents... system, twit, etc |
| [01:17:00] | klpt_____: | it probably has a goofy name |
| [01:17:00] | klpt_____: | like IEC#### |
| [01:17:00] | simon_c: | FunkyELF: I'm guessing. |
| [01:17:00] | rjune: | SpaceBass: that's nice. talk to Chutt |
| [01:18:00] | SpaceBass: | I can't understand how anything thinks this thing is going to work when people cannot even discuss integration with things like DSS or cable cards... got yelled at that earlier... i guess everyone is content to get content via an alnalogue capture card |
| [01:18:00] | rjune: | mythtv is already a borderline project |
| [01:18:00] | FunkyELF: | klpt_____, so every user has their own ~/.asoundrc ? |
| [01:18:00] | Urgo: | tuner: tuner type not set |
| [01:18:00] | Urgo: | anyone know how to fix that? when the ivtv driver gets loaded it detects my card as a type 57 (pvr500) but I get that in the loading of the driver, and if I try to use it.. |
| [01:18:00] | Urgo: | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/g29OBb23.html note line 80 for example. when I try to capture all I get is static |
| [01:18:00] | klpt_____: | you can get around that |
| [01:18:00] | klpt_____: | by putting it in |
| [01:18:00] | klpt_____: | "/etc/asound.conf" |
| [01:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | SpaceBass: You can certainly talk about dss, dvbs, cable cards and such. But you will NOT get help bypassing content providers encryption or security measures |
| [01:18:00] | rjune: | SpaceBass: chutt wants this to not even enter a grey area of legality. |
| [01:19:00] | FunkyELF: | myth eric # locate asound.conf |
| [01:19:00] | FunkyELF: | /usr/portage/media-sound/alsa-utils/files/alsasound.confd |
| [01:19:00] | FunkyELF: | ...I'm guessing that is not a file that exists by default? |
| [01:19:00] | klpt_____: | ? |
| [01:19:00] | klpt_____: | that's a very strange path |
| [01:19:00] | klpt_____: | and I'm not familiar with gentoo |
| [01:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | LOTS of dvb users in here, but noone in open channel is going to teach you how to get around nagra2 or any other scheme to get at the content that isn't FTA |
| [01:20:00] | mmurphy: | can anyone help me out witha pvr150 |
| [01:20:00] | klpt_____: | what's your issue? |
| [01:20:00] | SpaceBass: | GreyFoxx: I never wanted to bypass anything... I'm a happy paying subscriber... I just want to capture the content directly, not hook a HD reciever to some analogue capture card and lose the whole point of digital content |
| [01:20:00] | FunkyELF: | man...I need to read this stuff sitting in a chair. Right now I am hunched over with a small monitor out in my living room by my TV |
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| [01:20:00] | FunkyELF: | ...thats the next thing. Getting tv-out working on my video card ;-) |
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| [01:21:00] | mmurphy: | klpt_____: have fc2 and a pvr350 running great! i want to add the pvr 150 i just bought ... trying to figure out if i need new drivers and if so how to update |
| [01:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | SpaceBass: I understand your frustation, but the fact is that by not using the equipment provided by the provider for accessing the data you are bypassing their security measures |
| [01:21:00] | SpaceBass: | So, I thought... i can at least build a myth box for bittorrent and get shows like system, twit, etc (all free, legal, etc) and i get chastised for that |
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| [01:21:00] | klpt: | you shouldn't need any new drivers |
| [01:21:00] | klpt: | the ivtv 2.x series natively supports the 150 and 500 |
| [01:21:00] | rjune: | SpaceBass: I wasn't chastising you, just warning you that chutt's anal about it |
| [01:21:00] | klpt: | just plug and go |
| [01:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ok, Lets cut the bullshit here. Yeah there are legal uses for torrents of course, but the fact is that the majority of people using it are NOT using it to downlooad the latest ISOs of their favourite distro |
| [01:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | And noone wants Myth even loosely related to any of that |
| [01:22:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: that's all you use it for right? |
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| [01:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | Anything that brings lawsuit happylawyers and companies down on this project is BAD |
| [01:22:00] | SpaceBass: | sorry if I over reacted... but seriously... been here 5 times and each time I got a "we dont talk about that here" when I'm not trying to do anything suripitioutous |
| [01:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | rjune: Hell no. I download episodes of stuff |
| [01:23:00] | mmurphy: | klpt: im a newbie so bare with me ... i don't have ivtv-utils installed and if i grep rpm i think i may have ivtv-firmware-2.02.023–3 so would that be the 2.x you are refeering to? |
| [01:23:00] | rjune: | LOL as do I |
| [01:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | But I sure as hell wont tell people how to do it here |
| [01:23:00] | rjune: | however, I also pay for the content |
| [01:23:00] | rjune: | so if I d/l episodes of stuff it's legal for me to record.... |
| [01:23:00] | klpt: | you don't need the utils, just the base drivers – which you obviously have if your 350 works |
| [01:24:00] | simon_c: | Is there anyway to get myth to record radio shows from radio channels that also stream their content ? Or any plans to ? |
| [01:24:00] | SpaceBass: | I pay us$110 for tv a month... I have a $150/month itunes bill... not steeling any content here... |
| [01:24:00] | klpt: | and the firmware version isn't very helpful |
| [01:24:00] | rjune: | SpaceBass: you watch too much tv |
| [01:24:00] | rjune: | :-) |
| [01:24:00] | SpaceBass: | rjune: i travel a LOT... watch a lot on planes |
| [01:25:00] | klpt: | mmurphy: run this: |
| [01:25:00] | klpt: | dmesg | grep -i "ivtv: version" |
| [01:25:00] | mmurphy: | klpt: i know i have the base drivers ... but since i don't have ivtv-utils i don't know how to find out which version other then rpm | greg which gave me the above (ivtv-firmware-2.02.023–3). |
| [01:25:00] | rjune: | regardless of what you do, mythtv can already be seen as being grey legally, and chutt wants to minimize that |
| [01:26:00] | mmurphy: | klpt: no output |
| [01:26:00] | SpaceBass: | and i understand that... legit concern... but I'm just trying to rationalize this... why build a $1000 DVR when I can get another HD tivo for $300... granted it can't do everything, but it can do HD direct from the DSS |
| [01:26:00] | klpt: | try |
| [01:26:00] | klpt: | dmesg | grep -i ivtv |
| [01:26:00] | klpt: | that'll show all ivtv output |
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| [01:26:00] | klpt: | oh, excuse me, the ivtv 0.3.x series is what you need |
| [01:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | SpaceBass: Then you just laid it out. It doesn't make sense for you to build one |
| [01:27:00] | klpt: | well, between mythtv itself, mythburn, and a portable dvd player, it might be OK for him |
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| [01:28:00] | rjune: | SpaceBass: because tivo supports all that fun crap like broadcast flags |
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| [01:28:00] | mmurphy: | klpt: i | more and after it all no version number |
| [01:28:00] | SpaceBass: | and HD and digital content... I dont have an analogue option |
| [01:28:00] | klpt: | hmm |
| [01:28:00] | klpt: | odd |
| [01:28:00] | klpt: | mine comes back with "ivtv: version 0.3.9" |
| [01:28:00] | klpt: | well |
| [01:29:00] | klpt: | the best way to find out |
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| [01:29:00] | klpt: | is to plug in your card |
| [01:29:00] | klpt: | and see if it works |
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| [01:29:00] | mmurphy: | klpt: good idea ... |
| [01:29:00] | mmurphy: | klpt: but you think its 0.3.x is needed for the 150? |
| [01:31:00] | klpt: | yes |
| [01:31:00] | klpt: | for sure |
| [01:31:00] | simon_c: | WooHoo. Just got my mythplugin RPM to compile and install on suse10 :-) |
| [01:31:00] | klpt: | simon_c – .18.1 or svn? |
| [01:31:00] | simon_c: | 18.1 |
| [01:32:00] | simon_c: | .18.1 |
| [01:32:00] | klpt: | damn |
| [01:32:00] | mmurphy: | klpt: i aslo got kernel-module-ivtv-2.6.8–1.521–0.1.10–45_pre2_ck108k.rhfc2.at & perl-Video-ivtv-0.12–5.1.rhfc2.at |
| [01:32:00] | mmurphy: | out of rpm | grep |
| [01:32:00] | simon_c: | klpt: Once I get everything sorted out, I might try svn. But that scairs me :-) |
| [01:32:00] | simon_c: | klpt: What problems you seeing ? |
| [01:33:00] | klpt: | that's not real helpful as that's the kernel version |
| [01:33:00] | klpt: | and simcop2387 |
| [01:33:00] | klpt: | mythconfig.mak errors |
| [01:33:00] | klpt: | which I didn't get until recent SVN |
| [01:33:00] | simon_c: | Ahhh. Not seen those, no. |
| [01:33:00] | mmurphy: | sounds like i need to install ivtv-utils |
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| [01:34:00] | prolific_: | hello |
| [01:34:00] | prolific_: | i want to use mythtv just for its EPG .. |
| [01:35:00] | prolific_: | when i try to view the epg i get this message |
| [01:35:00] | prolific_: | You don't have any channels defined in the database |
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| [01:37:00] | mmurphy: | where can i get ivtv-utlis |
| [01:37:00] | klpt: | I have no idea – I don't use redhat |
| [01:38:00] | klpt: | http://dl.atrpms.net/all/ivtv-0.3.8-97.rhfc4.at.i386.rpm |
| [01:38:00] | klpt: | there's a newish version of ivtv for FC4 |
| [01:38:00] | mmurphy: | ya im running fc2 |
| [01:38:00] | klpt: | http://dl.atrpms.net/all/ivtv-0.4.0-98.rhfc2.at.i386.rpm |
| [01:39:00] | klpt: | http://dl.atrpms.net/all/ivtv-kernheaders-0.4 . . . .at.i386.rpm |
| [01:39:00] | klpt: | newer version of ivtv for an older version of FC |
| [01:39:00] | klpt: | have fun |
| [01:39:00] | mmurphy: | one for just ivtv-utils |
| [01:39:00] | klpt: | I wouldn't bother with ivtvl-utils at the moment |
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| [01:39:00] | mmurphy: | no |
| [01:39:00] | mmurphy: | just update? |
| [01:39:00] | jd86: | How do i switch channels from the program guide? if i press enter it gives options |
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| [01:40:00] | klpt: | mmurphy- why not? |
| [01:41:00] | mmurphy: | klpt: i don't want to pooch it ... |
| [01:41:00] | klpt: | save your old rpm |
| [01:41:00] | klpt: | and reinstall that if something dies |
| [01:41:00] | mmurphy: | ha ha ha |
| [01:41:00] | mmurphy: | don't know how to do that |
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| [01:41:00] | klpt: | :-/ |
| [01:41:00] | mmurphy: | :-( |
| [01:41:00] | jd86: | M? |
| [01:41:00] | klpt: | and I'm afraid I can't help you with that... I'm not an RPM person |
| [01:41:00] | klpt: | yay for pacman! |
| [01:42:00] | mmurphy: | klpt: i know its overkill but i was thinking image the system |
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| [01:42:00] | klpt: | holy crap |
| [01:42:00] | klpt: | but whatever floats your boat |
| [01:42:00] | klpt: | g4u? |
| [01:43:00] | mmurphy: | ha never done that in linux so probably won't be doing that |
| [01:45:00] | klpt: | lol, ghost then? |
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| [01:45:00] | mmurphy: | o ghost the hd ... |
| [01:45:00] | jd86: | Is there a way of opening the guide directly?? |
| [01:45:00] | mmurphy: | don't have any extra hd's |
| [01:45:00] | klpt: | I meant to an image file |
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| [01:45:00] | klpt: | but I really think that's overkill |
| [01:45:00] | klpt: | way serious supreme overkill |
| [01:46:00] | klpt: | time to brag about arch linux! |
| [01:46:00] | klpt: | its package management system is spectacular and installing it takes less than 5 minutes! |
| [01:47:00] | klpt: | anyway, I have a date with my dremel |
| [01:47:00] | klpt: | I'm afk |
| [01:47:00] | mmurphy: | klpt: thanks! for the help! |
| [01:47:00] | klpt: | np |
| [01:47:00] | klpt: | and btw, I admit to having an image of my frontend |
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| [01:48:00] | mmurphy: | sweet .. well i don't think i will be doing this tonight .... |
| [01:48:00] | mmurphy: | mabey tomarrow night :-( |
| [01:49:00] | mmurphy: | don't want to break it tonight .. |
| [01:51:00] | jd86: | ... anyone know how i can get it so that you cant leave mythtv |
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| [01:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | jd86: vi programs/mythfrontend/main.cpp :) |
| [01:52:00] | jd86: | oh my |
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| [01:55:00] | Krazylegz: | I think you can also require a password for exiting Myth. |
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| [01:55:00] | jd86: | Krazylegz: ooh, how? |
| [01:55:00] | Krazylegz: | Setup. |
| [01:56:00] | Krazylegz: | Hmm, looks like it's just a pin to enter setup. |
| [01:56:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh, you can set "No exit key." |
| [01:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | duh. RIght. I hadn;t seen that option used in so long I forgot all about iot hehe |
| [01:57:00] | Krazylegz: | GreyFoxx got skooled. :-) |
| [01:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | I make no claims on perfection :) |
| [01:58:00] | jd86: | where is the no exit key? |
| [01:59:00] | Krazylegz: | Setup->General->page 4. |
| [01:59:00] | kormoc: | it's under a rock in your front yard |
| [01:59:00] | kormoc: | or where Krazylegz said |
| [01:59:00] | ** Krazylegz hands jd86 a shovel ** | |
| [01:59:00] | mmurphy: | what do people file the best commertial skip setting is? |
| [02:00:00] | Krazylegz: | Man, I saw the Murphy Brown last night where she and Corky have to dress up as hookers. That was great. |
| [02:00:00] | jd86: | Krazylegz: soon as this updating music database finishes in like 3 years :( heh |
| [02:01:00] | jd86: | I definatly either need to figure out how to get my other tv tuner cards (non mpeg encoders) to work or buy another one |
| [02:01:00] | jd86: | are there any hauppague cards that have two inputs? like each one is two tuners? |
| [02:02:00] | Krazylegz: | PVR-500. |
| [02:02:00] | jd86: | that sounds... expencive. |
| [02:02:00] | jd86: | Now, can someone explain why there are two cable hookups for the pvr150's at newegg? they have some special number along with pvr150 but they have two inputs |
| [02:02:00] | Krazylegz: | Since the card doesn't really make any noises, you should maybe just check the price. |
| [02:02:00] | mmurphy: | can somone aanswer me this ... i have a pvr350 working now ... if i buy a pvr250 should i be able to just drop it in and add it to my modprobe.conf since the drivers are all configed and working? |
| [02:03:00] | Urgo: | Krazylegz: do you have the 500? |
| [02:04:00] | Krazylegz: | No. |
| [02:04:00] | Krazylegz: | Other people in here do, though. |
| [02:04:00] | Krazylegz: | http://hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_pvr500mce.html |
| [02:04:00] | Urgo: | yeah I have one... |
| [02:04:00] | Urgo: | having a bitch of a time getting it working though :) |
| [02:04:00] | jd86: | oh no |
| [02:04:00] | jd86: | not that agin |
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| [02:05:00] | mmurphy: | anyone? |
| [02:05:00] | Krazylegz: | mmurphy: No. |
| [02:05:00] | Urgo: | though it would be an easy upgrade from my old card, but nope. :( |
| [02:05:00] | Krazylegz: | They will probably have different firmware versions. |
| [02:05:00] | mmurphy: | seriously? |
| [02:06:00] | gate: | I have a 250 and 150 in the same box. They use the same firmware |
| [02:06:00] | Urgo: | well my old card wasn't an mpg one so definitally :) I got it mostly working but it only gives me static.. |
| [02:06:00] | mmurphy: | so i would have to update the drivers and install firmeare for the second card? |
| [02:06:00] | Krazylegz: | Wait. Gate is right. |
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| [02:06:00] | Urgo: | and "tuner: tuner type not set" |
| [02:06:00] | mmurphy: | o man |
| [02:06:00] | Krazylegz: | That's changed since older versions of ivtv. |
| [02:06:00] | mmurphy: | o man im confused ... |
| [02:07:00] | gate: | yes, just drop one in and configure a second card in mythtv-setup |
| [02:07:00] | js2638: | are we discussing the 350/500 problem? |
| [02:07:00] | Urgo: | I hope so :) |
| [02:07:00] | ** Krazylegz hides ** | |
| [02:07:00] | mmurphy: | gates: can i ./msg ya? |
| [02:07:00] | jd86: | yay music thing works |
| [02:07:00] | gate: | mmurphy, ya |
| [02:08:00] | jd86: | 134$ for a pvr 500... is it worth it? |
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| [02:09:00] | Krazylegz: | I think I paid $160 for my PVR-350. |
| [02:09:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | ok, what does this error Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION: |
| [02:09:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | mean? |
| [02:10:00] | Agrajag-: | means you've got different frontend/backend versions |
| [02:10:00] | funkyelf: | I can't get this .htaccess stuff to work. I have the .htaccess and .htpasswd file but it just lets me in without asking for a password |
| [02:10:00] | mmurphy: | gate: messaged |
| [02:10:00] | funkyelf: | I followed this page.... http://htmlite.com/HTA006.php |
| [02:11:00] | jd86: | Krazylegz: i dont know if you have experiance with this, but you answered all of my other questions so i'll direct this to you. I have a cable box digital cable box downstairs, is there a way of using that's output into mythtv and control it with mythtv? and if so i think it has svid out, and i think my card has svid in, does it work with that? if so does taht mean i can have both things recording at once? or live and then record with actual |
| [02:11:00] | jd86: | cable? and (sorry for continuing to go on) it has a serial thing on the back, i've read about controlling it with that..possible? or just ir thing? |
| [02:11:00] | mmurphy: | gate: get it? |
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| [02:12:00] | Krazylegz: | jd86: I don't do it, but yes that is possible. |
| [02:12:00] | Krazylegz: | You need an IR blaster. It will tell your computer to act like another remote for the DirectTV receiver. |
| [02:12:00] | Urgo: | funkyelf: make sure your apache conf allows processing of the files |
| [02:12:00] | Krazylegz: | Then you map the keys on your computer remote to call commands on the IR blaster. |
| [02:12:00] | jd86: | its not a direct tv thing, its a cable box, a motorola one.. is there some doc u know about it? |
| [02:13:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh. I don't have docs, you'd have to Google |
| [02:13:00] | Krazylegz: | Same idea, though. |
| [02:13:00] | jd86: | yea. |
| [02:13:00] | Krazylegz: | I'm sure people do it with like Comcast DVR, etc. |
| [02:13:00] | jd86: | now i need to find out how to merge two avi's |
| [02:13:00] | jd86: | :( |
| [02:14:00] | jd86: | i hav cox cable. |
| [02:14:00] | Krazylegz: | Does it have a remote? |
| [02:14:00] | Krazylegz: | Er, an IR remote? |
| [02:14:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | Agrajag-, disagree they are the same version. I restarted mysql seems to have fixed it. :\ |
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| [02:14:00] | jd86: | Krazylegz: yea, and it also has a serial interface on back... i wonder what its for |
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| [02:15:00] | Krazylegz: | You'd have to Google that too. |
| [02:15:00] | jd86: | heh |
| [02:15:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | thanks thou |
| [02:15:00] | ** jd86 loves google and mythtvtalk.com ** | |
| [02:15:00] | jd86: | i'm out for now tho |
| [02:16:00] | Krazylegz: | People actually read that forum? |
| [02:16:00] | jd86: | i browsed it a tad.. not much tho |
| [02:16:00] | jd86: | it helped me with one question ;-) |
| [02:16:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, that's good then. |
| [02:16:00] | jd86: | canyou run mythweb on a seperat computer of the backend |
| [02:16:00] | jd86: | ugh i gotata go, thanks for your help |
| [02:17:00] | Krazylegz: | I think you can, yes. |
| [02:17:00] | Krazylegz: | Should be able to. |
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| [02:19:00] | Vantage__: | anyone know what firmware i should be using with a pvr-150 cx25843 type 25 card? |
| [02:20:00] | Vantage__: | all i can find are references to pvr-500 cards |
| [02:21:00] | Vantage__: | i use the one from the CD and i get "unable to open firmware" |
| [02:25:00] | Vantage__: | and "unable to open HckMakoA.ROM" even though it is in /lib/modules |
| [02:27:00] | Cardoe: | maybe that's not your hotplug directory |
| [02:30:00] | Vantage__: | how do you determine the hotplug directory? |
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| [02:32:00] | SpaceBass: | ok... trouble maker is back |
| [02:32:00] | SpaceBass: | :D |
| [02:33:00] | gloin: | what, I haven't even spoken yet? |
| [02:33:00] | SpaceBass: | working with a frontend app on os x... put in the host and sql login/pass and it just exits setup and never presents the front end |
| [02:33:00] | Vantage__: | Cardoe: thanks, I tracked it down. I had no idea what to look for until you mentioned, then i found the answer right away. thanks again. |
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| [02:34:00] | dft: | oi # |
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| [02:35:00] | dft: | how do I find out which lirc driver my hauppauge pvr 250 should be using |
| [02:35:00] | Vantage__: | and now my next question, what's a good remote to get? |
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| [02:37:00] | SpaceBass: | anyone ever used the os x frontend app? |
| [02:37:00] | dft: | my pvr 250 came with one that hooks directly into the tv tuner card |
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| [02:37:00] | dft: | SpaceBass: nope |
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| [02:38:00] | js2638: | you use the hauppauge driver for lirc |
| [02:38:00] | js2638: | and I use the snapstream firefly remote |
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| [02:38:00] | js2638: | it works well |
| [02:39:00] | dft: | so what is the string required for modules.conf |
| [02:39:00] | dft: | alias char-major-61 xxx? |
| [02:39:00] | js2638: | did you compile the driver from source? |
| [02:39:00] | dft: | no, I'm using knoppmyth |
| [02:39:00] | js2638: | hang on... |
| [02:39:00] | dft: | thnx |
| [02:40:00] | dft: | my dmesg has nothing listed re: lirc_dev |
| [02:40:00] | gloin: | hey, I'm trying to compile mythtv on SuSE 10 and am getting the following error (looks like it's barfing in avcodec): http://pastebin.ca/25438 |
| [02:40:00] | js2638: | lirc_i32c |
| [02:40:00] | gloin: | can anyone help? |
| [02:40:00] | js2638: | err lirc_i2c |
| [02:40:00] | dft: | js2638: thnx |
| [02:40:00] | js2638: | oops.. |
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| [02:40:00] | dft: | ? |
| [02:40:00] | jonK: | name |
| [02:41:00] | dft: | ahh |
| [02:41:00] | gloin: | =[ |
| [02:41:00] | gloin: | the only references I see to this error are for amd/64 machines, and this is a p4 |
| [02:42:00] | dft: | try turning off hyperthreading |
| [02:42:00] | gloin: | prior to the make command there, I did "qmake mythtv.pro" |
| [02:42:00] | gloin: | dft: not supported on this machine, not an issue |
| [02:42:00] | dft: | that's a wild buess btw |
| [02:42:00] | gloin: | heh |
| [02:42:00] | gloin: | yeah it was =] |
| [02:42:00] | dft: | lol |
| [02:42:00] | dft: | I've never used suse |
| [02:42:00] | gloin: | I like it a lot, until you want to compile something for it |
| [02:42:00] | gloin: | then it's hell |
| [02:42:00] | gloin: | pure hell |
| [02:43:00] | dft: | hehe, that's why I stick with fbsd as much as possible |
| [02:43:00] | gloin: | anyone else have a look at the pastebin? |
| [02:43:00] | dft: | ports collection rocks |
| [02:44:00] | dft: | can after making changes to modules.conf, do I have to reboot for the changes to take effect? |
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| [02:44:00] | FunkyELF: | well...with my .htaccess file edited...it is just letting me in....not prompting for a password ever |
| [02:45:00] | gloin: | FunkyELF: how did you setup your .htaccess file? |
| [02:46:00] | FunkyELF: | http://68.204.165.215/eric/htaccess |
| [02:46:00] | gloin: | no no, how did you _create_ your .htaccess? =] |
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| [02:48:00] | FunkyELF: | gloin, it was already there, I just added those lines under the first set of comments |
| [02:48:00] | gloin: | restart httpd/mythtv/whatever? |
| [02:48:00] | gloin: | bbiaf |
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| [02:58:00] | jonK: | i'd at least reload the lirc module |
| [02:59:00] | jonK: | why not just let the world have access to your mythweb? |
| [03:03:00] | NightMonkey: | jonK: Because ... http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en . . . ;btnG=Search |
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| [03:07:00] | NightMonkey: | gloin: He/she probably created it with vi/emacs/nano/some-other-editor? |
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| [03:08:00] | NightMonkey: | gloin: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/howto/htaccess.html might help? |
| [03:08:00] | NightMonkey: | I'm doing more apache help here today than myth. |
| [03:11:00] | Urgo: | NightMonkey: feel free to fix my ivtv/pvr500 problem at any time ;) |
| [03:12:00] | NightMonkey: | Urgo: Sorry, I only have a 350. But I do know you'll need the latest ivtv version. But, I'm not clear about what the minimum versions are for the various versions extant. |
| [03:12:00] | Urgo: | I'm using 0.4.0 and I belive its the same encoder as the 350 |
| [03:12:00] | Urgo: | just doesn't have the decoder |
| [03:12:00] | NightMonkey: | minimum kernel versions, I should say. |
| [03:13:00] | NightMonkey: | Urgo: Yeah, but improvements were made in the ivtv codebase to accomodate the PVR 150 and 500. |
| [03:13:00] | Urgo: | just keep getting the damn "tuner: tuner type not set" message even though I set it to 57 manually on module load |
| [03:14:00] | NightMonkey: | ivtv is always in such flux... |
| [03:15:00] | NightMonkey: | Urgo: You shouldn't be setting any module options on load, that's one thing. |
| [03:15:00] | Urgo: | well, I've been trying all sorts of things |
| [03:15:00] | Urgo: | no matter which way I do it, options no options it gives me that |
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| [03:15:00] | Urgo: | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/MR4ylN46.html |
| [03:15:00] | NightMonkey: | Urgo: AFAIK, everything should be "automagic", as long as you don't try to outsmart it by passing options. |
| [03:15:00] | Urgo: | it DOES detect it correctly though |
| [03:15:00] | Urgo: | Oct 13 20:38:54 moria kernel: tveeprom: tuner = Philips FQ1236A MK4 (idx = 92, type = 57) |
| [03:16:00] | Urgo: | but still gives the error |
| [03:16:00] | Urgo: | Oct 13 20:38:57 moria kernel: tuner: tuner type not set |
| [03:16:00] | NightMonkey: | Urgo: Sorry, can't tell you much more. Well, also make sure that any in-kernel modules (i.e. from the main kernel tree) are not "in the way" of the ivtv modules. |
| [03:16:00] | Urgo: | no matter what chan I try to tune to I get static.. I did try the composit instead of the coax and I get video, but its all messed up like its using the wrong card type |
| [03:17:00] | NightMonkey: | Urgo: Make sure you aren't using the in-kernl tuner module. |
| [03:17:00] | Urgo: | hmmmm.... let me check that. that might be it actually.. |
| [03:18:00] | NightMonkey: | Urgo: Brute force way would be to cd to the kernel module tree, and do a 'find . -iname "tuner*"'. |
| [03:18:00] | NightMonkey: | Urgo: If multiple entries show up, but in different directories, you've got a problem. |
| [03:19:00] | NightMonkey: | Urgo: /lib/modules/<kernel version> |
| [03:19:00] | NightMonkey: | Urgo: Or wherever your distro stores them. |
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| [03:21:00] | gloin: | NightMonkey: did you happen to look at my pastebin from the failed compile? |
| [03:21:00] | NightMonkey: | gloin: Nope. |
| [03:21:00] | gloin: | http://pastebin.ca/25438 |
| [03:21:00] | gloin: | can't get it to go |
| [03:21:00] | gloin: | I do qmake mythtv.pro and it instantly goes back to command prompt |
| [03:21:00] | gloin: | what's in the pastebin there is the output from "make" |
| [03:22:00] | NightMonkey: | gloin: Why are you compiling yourself? Just curious? |
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| [03:22:00] | gloin: | NightMonkey: no packages for SuSE |
| [03:22:00] | NightMonkey: | gloin: Why are you using SuSE? |
| [03:22:00] | NightMonkey: | gloin: Not a very supported distro for Myth. |
| [03:22:00] | gloin: | NightMonkey: because I find it to be the best all-around desktop distro, and this machine has to wear a lot of hats |
| [03:22:00] | NightMonkey: | gloin: Debian, Fedora, Gentoo are more supported. |
| [03:23:00] | gloin: | tvtuner works well |
| [03:23:00] | NightMonkey: | gloin: OK. |
| [03:23:00] | NightMonkey: | brb |
| [03:23:00] | gloin: | I won't touch gentoo with a ten-foot-pole |
| [03:23:00] | gloin: | and fedora... Ugh with a capitol U |
| [03:23:00] | jonK: | do you have a 10 foot pole? |
| [03:23:00] | Urgo: | NightMonkey: well. I removed everything from my kernel/drivers/media/video dir (which had a tuner.o that I think was from the kern tree), re-did the make install for ivtv, and then tried again. now I don't have ANY tuner file in my modules dir, I don't get that error, but now I get a warning (and still no video.. static only) |
| [03:23:00] | Urgo: | Oct 13 05:00:15 moria kernel: ivtv0 warning: i2c client addr: 0x00 not found for command 0x4004760f! |
| [03:23:00] | gloin: | jonK: right here, baby =] |
| [03:23:00] | gloin: | anyhow |
| [03:24:00] | ** gloin funroll-loops.org jonK ** | |
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| [03:26:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | I can I make mybackend load up as my user during boot time? and then make mythfrontend load up insted of the login. |
| [03:26:00] | Urgo: | NightMonkey: am I supposed to have a tuner.o? |
| [03:26:00] | Cardoe: | hrm |
| [03:26:00] | Cardoe: | does ivtv always need lirc_i2c and lirc_dev? |
| [03:27:00] | Cardoe: | even if it doesn't have a remote control on it? |
| [03:27:00] | Cardoe: | because modprobe just failed for me |
| [03:27:00] | Cardoe: | because of those modules not being found |
| [03:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't have lirc on my box at all and have no troubles |
| [03:28:00] | Cardoe: | hrm |
| [03:29:00] | ** gloin finds it odd that the first question he had about the issue was "Why are you using SuSE." It is, after all, right behind redhat in terms of overall use. ** | |
| [03:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | gloin: heh. That sort of comment happens a lot here :) |
| [03:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | "You are you use X distro. Y distro rules!" |
| [03:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [03:30:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | SuSE 9.2 works great for m.e |
| [03:30:00] | gloin: | asking "Which" distro is perfectly relevant. Asking "why" is, imo, not. |
| [03:31:00] | Skaface: | WAR_CH|LD: i use gdm to auto login as a user |
| [03:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | gloin: Of course |
| [03:31:00] | gloin: | WAR_CH|LD: yeah? did you have any troubles compiling? |
| [03:31:00] | gloin: | http://pastebin.ca/25438 |
| [03:31:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | Skaface then how do you make it launch whatever you need? |
| [03:31:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | gloin not one. |
| [03:31:00] | rjune: | gloin: unless you're using gentoo |
| [03:31:00] | gloin: | lol, hi rjune |
| [03:31:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | using 4xPVR500's. |
| [03:31:00] | Skaface: | depends on the window manager that you are using |
| [03:31:00] | rjune: | WAR_CH|LD: .Xclients |
| [03:31:00] | gloin: | gentoo is a _toy_ |
| [03:31:00] | rjune: | you can run myth and a wm |
| [03:31:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | rjune, thanks. :) |
| [03:32:00] | rjune: | WAR_CH|LD: want my .Xclients file? |
| [03:32:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | yeah, sure. :) |
| [03:32:00] | Skaface: | .Xclients, is that like .Xsession? |
| [03:33:00] | rjune: | yeah |
| [03:33:00] | rjune: | give a sec |
| [03:33:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | np |
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| [03:35:00] | rjune: | http://www.bravegnuworld.com/~rjune/Xclients.txt |
| [03:35:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | you are a beautiful man. |
| [03:35:00] | jams: | gloin, http://folk.uio.no/oeysteio/ |
| [03:36:00] | jams: | packages for suse |
| [03:36:00] | rjune: | WAR_CH|LD: my wife says that all the time |
| [03:36:00] | jams: | gloin, which suse version? |
| [03:36:00] | Skaface: | kwin? |
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| [03:36:00] | rjune: | that might be what I'm using, I forget |
| [03:37:00] | rjune: | it works, so I don't mess with it |
| [03:37:00] | Skaface: | hehe ok |
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| [03:37:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | w00ps |
| [03:37:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | sorry |
| [03:37:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | tnaks! |
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| [03:38:00] | gloin: | jams: 10.0 |
| [03:39:00] | jams: | 64 bit? |
| [03:40:00] | gloin: | 32 |
| [03:41:00] | jams: | well I have yet to try suse 10, but that error looks very familiar |
| [03:41:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | what's the error? |
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| [03:41:00] | gloin: | WAR_CH|LD: http://pastebin.ca/25438 |
| [03:41:00] | gloin: | frell |
| [03:42:00] | jams: | by any chance have you tried compiling from svn? seems like that might have been fixed already |
| [03:42:00] | gloin: | haven't |
| [03:42:00] | gloin: | should |
| [03:42:00] | jams: | btw your right suse is a great distro :) |
| [03:42:00] | gloin: | been with it since 8.2 |
| [03:43:00] | gloin: | still distro-shop about a bit but nothing touches it |
| [03:43:00] | gloin: | (until you try to compile for it) |
| [03:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [03:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well there is something to be said about user loyalty heh |
| [03:43:00] | gloin: | still use deb for swervers – it's a lot lighter-weight |
| [03:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've been using my distro since ~93 or so |
| [03:44:00] | jams: | hehehe suse has done some strange stuff at times |
| [03:44:00] | gloin: | =] |
| [03:45:00] | jams: | is that gcc 4? |
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| [03:47:00] | gloin: | jams: yes |
| [03:49:00] | gloin: | I'm thinking gcc4 is more picky about coding errors and will fail out where gcc3 would just warn |
| [03:49:00] | rjune: | true |
| [03:50:00] | rjune: | there's something else about it too. which is why KDE blacklists some gcc4 versions |
| [03:51:00] | gloin: | eh, what's that? |
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| [03:53:00] | FunkyELF: | can I run mythweb off of a different computer than the master backend ? |
| [03:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | FunkyELF: yes |
| [03:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | as long as it can reachy the database+backend it should be fine |
| [03:56:00] | FunkyELF: | GreyFoxx, you're a gentoo user right? |
| [03:56:00] | jams: | gloin, again pretty sure that was fixed in svn |
| [03:56:00] | jams: | heck it might even be in the fixes branch |
| [03:56:00] | FunkyELF: | I see a mythweb uses a vhosts flag |
| [03:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | FunkyELF: No, I don't use Gentoo |
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| [03:58:00] | FunkyELF: | well...for right now since I have two gentoo boxes....one is running MythTV and MythWeb, and the other is running Gallery, I think I'll change the port for the one running MythWeb. |
| [03:58:00] | Lightning: | evening |
| [03:58:00] | FunkyELF: | Where all do I have to change things to get it to run on 8080 ? I see a place in 00_default_vhost.conf is there anywhere else? |
| [03:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have no idea what sort of config files are provided in a gentoo setup. I just have asingle httpd.conf :) |
| [03:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have mythweb running on a box here that runs several of my sites |
| [03:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I use virtual hosts, not different ports |
| [04:00:00] | FunkyELF: | GreyFoxx, what exactly does that do? |
| [04:00:00] | NightMonkey: | gloin: Back. So, I asked that, and didn't say that SuSE wasn't gonna work. I said "Debian, Fedora and Gentoo are better supported." That's all. |
| [04:00:00] | NightMonkey: | gloin: Sorry, better supported for mythtv. |
| [04:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | FunkyELF: Basically I just configure it so that www.site.com goes to one DocumentRoot, www.othersite.com goes to a different DocumentRoot, etc etc |
| [04:01:00] | NightMonkey: | gloin: But, anyway, let me check my install to see what's what. |
| [04:01:00] | FunkyELF: | ah...I don't have any sites. I probably should since my IP is fairly static |
| [04:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | My IP at home has changed maybe twice in the last 3 years |
| [04:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | most of my stuff is on acolo'd box, but I have several sites here at home for personal use |
| [04:02:00] | NightMonkey: | gloin: So, I have the following as ivtv modules (wuth ivtv 0.2.0_rc3): |
| [04:02:00] | NightMonkey: | gloin: /lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r6/extra/ivtv-fb.ko |
| [04:02:00] | NightMonkey: | /lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r6/extra/ivtv.ko |
| [04:02:00] | NightMonkey: | /lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r6/extra/msp3400.ko |
| [04:02:00] | NightMonkey: | /lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r6/extra/saa7115.ko |
| [04:02:00] | NightMonkey: | /lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r6/extra/saa7127.ko |
| [04:02:00] | NightMonkey: | /lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r6/extra/tveeprom.ko |
| [04:03:00] | NightMonkey: | gloin: But, you're using a newer version, so that's probably not a help. Sorry. |
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| [04:12:00] | Urgo: | FunkyELF: /etc/apache2/httpd.conf look for Listen 80 and change that |
| [04:12:00] | Urgo: | FunkyELF: or if you haven't upgraded lately its in /etc/apache2/conf/apache.conf |
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| [04:26:00] | FunkyELF: | okay....so I am going to attempt to record two things at a time....they're going to start in 4 minutes |
| [04:26:00] | FunkyELF: | I have exited mythfrontend |
| [04:26:00] | FunkyELF: | will I be able to watch one of them while they are recording? |
| [04:27:00] | Urgo: | FunkyELF: you have any problems loading the driver? |
| [04:27:00] | FunkyELF: | Urgo, the ivtv driver? |
| [04:27:00] | Urgo: | yes |
| [04:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | FunkyELF: Yeah you can watch in progress recordings |
| [04:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | but of course you need mythfrontend running to do it >:) |
| [04:27:00] | Urgo: | or mythweb.. :) |
| [04:27:00] | FunkyELF: | I couldn't use gentoo sources because they wouldn't let me enable bit banging, and I couldn't use the vanilla sources because it wouldn't support my network card, so I had to use a masked package of 2.6.14 |
| [04:28:00] | FunkyELF: | GreyFoxx, can I pause those in progress recordings? |
| [04:28:00] | ** Urgo still haven't moved to 2.6.x I have a 2.4.x kern ** | |
| [04:28:00] | FunkyELF: | Urgo, good luck :-/ |
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| [04:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | FunkyELF: Yes |
| [04:28:00] | SqWaw: | bit banging? sounds kinky.... |
| [04:28:00] | Urgo: | lol yeah.. whats that for? |
| [04:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can treat it exactly like a regular watching of a recording |
| [04:29:00] | FunkyELF: | GreyFoxx, so today was the first time I have used mythtv ever |
| [04:29:00] | FunkyELF: | GreyFoxx, what I noticed is that by default it records what you're watching?...is this correct? |
| [04:29:00] | FunkyELF: | I think on tivo you have to tell it to watch in "live" mode no? |
| [04:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | FunkyELF: LiveTV is "recorded" and play'd back yes |
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| [04:53:00] | SqWaw: | Does anyone use an IR Blaster? |
| [04:55:00] | xris: | yup |
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| [04:56:00] | SqWaw: | Working? |
| [04:56:00] | xris: | yes |
| [04:57:00] | SqWaw: | Did you follow a HOWTO or something? |
| [04:57:00] | xris: | yup |
| [04:57:00] | SqWaw: | Can ya link me? |
| [04:57:00] | xris: | google for mythtv losdos |
| [04:57:00] | SqWaw: | I can't get it working in gentoo, maybe im a retard |
| [04:57:00] | SqWaw: | http://losdos.dyndns.org:8080/public/mythtv-i . . . ed_LIRC.html |
| [04:57:00] | SqWaw: | By any chance ^ ? |
| [04:57:00] | xris: | like I said |
| [04:58:00] | xris: | first result |
| [04:58:00] | SqWaw: | Hmmmm lol |
| [04:59:00] | SqWaw: | This is the howto i followed, and it doesn't work :( |
| [04:59:00] | FunkyELF: | my date is messed up on my computer....it says it is 21:58 when it is really 22:58 |
| [04:59:00] | xris: | FunkyELF: daylight savings? |
| [04:59:00] | xris: | PDT, not PST |
| [04:59:00] | xris: | or whatever |
| [04:59:00] | SqWaw: | ya EDT/EST etc... |
| [04:59:00] | FunkyELF: | and mythfront end shows the programs wrong....is this the same issue? |
| [05:00:00] | xris: | FunkyELF: maybe. there's also a zap2it offset fix that you can add an hour or two to. |
| [05:00:00] | xris: | but fix the clock first |
| [05:00:00] | xris: | SqWaw: it's worked for me every time |
| [05:00:00] | xris: | granted, I use fedora. gentoo likes to put files in funny locations (it's more bsd-like than linux-like in organization), maybet hat changes something. |
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| [05:05:00] | FunkyELF: | okay, I fixed my time in Linux....now I will see if myth is still messed up. Shall I restart the backend? |
| [05:06:00] | xris: | FunkyELF: probably |
| [05:07:00] | protonchris: | f |
| [05:08:00] | FunkyELF: | okay, I restarted it, and now I have no upcoming recording |
| [05:08:00] | FunkyELF: | *recordings |
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| [05:08:00] | FunkyELF: | which is fine I guess. The program guide is all wrong, even more wrong than before....so I'm running mythfilldatabase |
| [05:08:00] | FunkyELF: | we'll see what happens |
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| [05:09:00] | timekllr: | anyone else here hit the mythgame -> genre tree bug, and have a fix ? |
| [05:10:00] | timekllr: | tried patches, even compiled .18.2 to no avail |
| [05:11:00] | dev-: | hrm why doesnt mythtv.org mention 18.2 |
| [05:11:00] | timekllr: | gotta go to the svn docs to see it |
| [05:11:00] | timekllr: | http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ |
| [05:11:00] | xris: | FunkyELF: rerun mythfilldatabase |
| [05:12:00] | dev-: | ah |
| [05:12:00] | xris: | could also just be startup.. takes 20–30 seconds sometimes for the backend to create the schedules |
| [05:12:00] | FunkyELF: | I reran it and then restarted the backend again and still the data is off by 4 hours now instead of 1 hour |
| [05:12:00] | ** Lightning grins like a kid in a candy store. he just flashed his razr v3 phone to add video ** | |
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| [05:13:00] | FunkyELF: | Data is already present for Thu Oct 13 2005, skipping |
| [05:13:00] | FunkyELF: | Data is already present for Sat Oct 15 2005, skipping |
| [05:13:00] | FunkyELF: | Data is already present for Sun Oct 16 2005, skipping |
| [05:13:00] | FunkyELF: | ....and so on |
| [05:13:00] | FunkyELF: | but the data is 4 hours off now :-/ |
| [05:14:00] | FunkyELF: | can I force it to re-download? |
| [05:14:00] | xris: | FunkyELF: mysql: delete from program; |
| [05:14:00] | xris: | then rerun |
| [05:14:00] | xris: | thought mythfilldatabase had some sort of --force option or something, too |
| [05:14:00] | FunkyELF: | which should I do? |
| [05:15:00] | FunkyELF: | I don't know mysql or how to go in and delete the things |
| [05:15:00] | gloin: | w00t |
| [05:15:00] | gloin: | finally grabbed svn and it's compiling |
| [05:15:00] | gloin: | at least, it's gone far beyond the earlier breakage |
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| [05:16:00] | FunkyELF: | xris, can I just clear the database all together and start from scratch? |
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| [05:17:00] | gloin: | it looks like a lot of needed cleanup was done to the code from the glance I've had of the updated version |
| [05:18:00] | FunkyELF: | please can someone help me clean up my database so my times are correct |
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| [05:21:00] | FunkyELF: | nobody here know how to force mythfilldatabase to update it even though it has data for those days? |
| [05:22:00] | FunkyELF: | xris, you there? |
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| [05:22:00] | Skaface: | how do I get mplayer to play a movie on my 2nd xinerama screen? |
| [05:23:00] | cosmo_: | anyone think a 64bit system is a wise choice for a myth backend? |
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| [05:24:00] | Skaface: | heh, ive got it |
| [05:24:00] | Skaface: | was looking for 15 minutes, and i found the answer 1 second after i ask in here |
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| [05:31:00] | Skaface: | sigh |
| [05:31:00] | Skaface: | seems to not support full screen mode on xinerama screen 1 |
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| [05:36:00] | timekllr: | so, anyone here have myth > .18 with a working mythgame "genre" tree ? |
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| [05:44:00] | FunkyELF: | what all is stored inside of the database...can I delete all tables in the database and re-run setup and everything will work? |
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| [05:53:00] | FunkyELF: | okay, I went in and ran "delete from program" |
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| [05:55:00] | kahuna_: | Hi. |
| [05:56:00] | kahuna_: | What WM do you guys suggest for Myth? |
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| [05:59:00] | ShockValue: | anyone know the syntax for the lircrc file for mythtv for ctrl and alt? |
| [05:59:00] | ShockValue: | or example, i want to bind a remote function to ctrl-f1. is that the right syntax? |
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| [06:06:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Hi all! |
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| [06:10:00] | ShockValue: | where are the keybindings located at in myth anyway? there's gotta be somepalce to get at em besides mythtweb |
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| [06:12:00] | PaulWay[w]: | ShockValue: don't know for sure, but try the ~mythtv/.mythtv directory |
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| [06:12:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Also, they may well be in the mysql database (mythconverg) |
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| [06:14:00] | ShockValue: | yeah, turns out to be in the database i think.. which sucks.. i dont no sql :) |
| [06:16:00] | PaulWay[w]: | 's easy. |
| [06:16:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Do you know what table it's in? |
| [06:17:00] | PaulWay[w]: | If you're not in the database, use the command 'mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg' to connect to it. |
| [06:17:00] | PaulWay[w]: | If you ever need to quit from that, just type \q and hit enter. |
| [06:17:00] | PaulWay[w]: | That'll quit without executing what you've got on the command line. |
| [06:17:00] | PaulWay[w]: | OK so far? |
| [06:23:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Question is, ShockValue, what are you wanting to do? |
| [06:23:00] | ShockValue: | sorry, was afk testing the mythbox |
| [06:24:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I'll let you get away with it this time :-) |
| [06:24:00] | ShockValue: | ok, i got ALT+F1 to work from the keyboard, but it wont work from the remote control |
| [06:24:00] | ShockValue: | so ALT+F1 is bound to Live TV |
| [06:25:00] | ShockValue: | but: |
| [06:25:00] | ShockValue: | begin |
| [06:25:00] | ShockValue: | prog = mythtv |
| [06:25:00] | ShockValue: | button = f1 |
| [06:25:00] | ShockValue: | config = ALT+F1 |
| [06:25:00] | ShockValue: | end |
| [06:25:00] | ShockValue: | doesnt seem to work from the remote.. (ive verified through IRW that it is sending f1 when i push the appropriate button) |
| [06:25:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Alt-F1 doesn't seem to do anything in MythTV according to the keybindings table I have. |
| [06:25:00] | ShockValue: | yeah, you can add new ones |
| [06:26:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Alt-F1 goes to the Watch TV option, does it? |
| [06:26:00] | ShockValue: | which seemed to work dandy for keyboard control |
| [06:26:00] | ShockValue: | if you bind it to :) they're called jump points |
| [06:26:00] | ShockValue: | there's like 12 to choose from |
| [06:26:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Your 'begin ... end' quote was from the MythTV lircd.conf or something like that, wasn't it? |
| [06:26:00] | ** FunkyELF goes into the other room to see if his box will record what he told it to ** | |
| [06:26:00] | ShockValue: | aye |
| [06:27:00] | ShockValue: | \home/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [06:27:00] | PaulWay[w]: | So how did you bind Alt-F1 in the first place? |
| [06:27:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I haven't got IR working yet so I haven't had that joy. |
| [06:27:00] | ShockValue: | mythweb. i think you have to use database otherwise |
| [06:28:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Ahhhhh! (goes and experiments on his MythWeb installation...) |
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| [06:30:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Mmmm – interesting. |
| [06:31:00] | PaulWay[w]: | The normal key bindings are kept in a table called keybindings, but the jump points are separate in a table called jumppoints. |
| [06:31:00] | PaulWay[w]: | (No surprises there then... :-) |
| [06:31:00] | PaulWay[w]: | So you've verified using irw that pressing the button on the remote generates an ALT-F1? |
| [06:32:00] | ShockValue: | it generates "f1" which ive mapped to ALT+F1 in the lircrc (pasted above) |
| [06:33:00] | ShockValue: | im thinking its jsut syntax of the lircrc file thats killing me, but i dont knwo where to find the correct one |
| [06:33:00] | gloin: | so |
| [06:33:00] | gloin: | how bad would it be to try and use a local and fast NFS share as my storage volume? |
| [06:33:00] | PaulWay[w]: | ShockValue: Can you get it to generate Alt-F1 directly? |
| [06:34:00] | PaulWay[w]: | gloin: No problem. Plenty of people do it. |
| [06:34:00] | gloin: | PaulWay[w]: won't bork TV shows that're being streamed onto the disk? |
| [06:34:00] | PaulWay[w]: | You just have to make sure that if the NFS server goes down then you unmount and remount the share. |
| [06:34:00] | gloin: | yeah |
| [06:34:00] | ShockValue: | gloin: i do for my movies and music. i think its fine for TV too.. |
| [06:34:00] | PaulWay[w]: | No. |
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| [06:34:00] | gloin: | heh |
| [06:35:00] | gloin: | I guess I should show off the server – it's kind of unusual... |
| [06:35:00] | gloin: | http://flickr.com/photos/taupehat/sets/1079266/ |
| [06:35:00] | gloin: | there's the machine |
| [06:35:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I use it the reverse way around – NFS share from my mythtv machine to deliver video to other machines, so I can't comment from direct experience. |
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| [06:35:00] | gloin: | and one of the photos has the name I chose for it |
| [06:35:00] | gloin: | 200 gigs of goodness =] |
| [06:36:00] | PaulWay[w]: | This is a toaster oven? |
| [06:36:00] | gloin: | this is a server |
| [06:36:00] | gloin: | housed in a toaster oven |
| [06:36:00] | gloin: | and it works beautifully |
| [06:36:00] | gloin: | my old server is also in my flickr zone somewheres |
| [06:36:00] | PaulWay[w]: | the crateserver? |
| [06:36:00] | gloin: | yep |
| [06:37:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Any problems with RF interference? |
| [06:37:00] | ShockValue: | thats a cute server, although I'd rather not have it sitting next to my plasma :) |
| [06:37:00] | PaulWay[w]: | (I'd worry about dust more myself) |
| [06:37:00] | gloin: | it died a combined death of static buildup, no EM shielding, and obsolete hardware |
| [06:37:00] | ShockValue: | wrong style, if you know what i mean |
| [06:37:00] | gloin: | basically, it started garbaging data on the hard drive |
| [06:37:00] | gloin: | heh, yeah |
| [06:37:00] | gloin: | I can't afford such goodies as plasma teevees |
| [06:37:00] | gloin: | although |
| [06:38:00] | gloin: | I did manage to scrape up the dosh to buy a TVBeGone |
| [06:38:00] | gloin: | and went to Circuit City with it =] |
| [06:38:00] | gloin: | that was hilarity |
| [06:38:00] | PaulWay[w]: | ShockValue: any luck directly generating an Alt-F1? |
| [06:38:00] | gloin: | first thing I aimed it at was some mammoth plasma box and it went off instantly =] |
| [06:38:00] | PaulWay[w]: | gloin: fun doesn't have to be expensive :-) |
| [06:38:00] | gloin: | nope =] |
| [06:39:00] | gloin: | the best part was just walking up and down the tv aisles |
| [06:39:00] | gloin: | with the clicker in my hand |
| [06:39:00] | gloin: | the tv sets were blanking in a trail as I walked by – it was all I could do to keep from laughing out loud |
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| [06:39:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I hope it was diabolical, maniacal laughter... |
| [06:40:00] | ** gloin made sure to let up on the button when a salesperson was working with a client – wouldn't be fair to trash their commission after all ** | |
| [06:40:00] | gloin: | "Uh, wow, it just switched itself off. They never do that..." |
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| [06:40:00] | FunkyELF: | why am I showing nothing in /store |
| [06:41:00] | FunkyELF: | I am recording two things right now |
| [06:41:00] | FunkyELF: | does it cache them somewhere else and then copy them over there? |
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| [06:41:00] | PaulWay[w]: | FunkyELF: Not that I've seen... |
| [06:42:00] | PaulWay[w]: | But I've never tried to watch the pot while it boils, so to speak. |
| [06:42:00] | FunkyELF: | yeah....oh well....we'll see what happens |
| [06:43:00] | PaulWay[w]: | My understanding is that it should write it in whereever your store normally sits. |
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| [06:43:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Make sure you haven't run out of disk space, and you haven't lost a mount or NFS share... |
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| [06:44:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Otherwise try doing 'watch df -k' and seeing if the used space goes up... |
| [06:44:00] | FunkyELF: | uh oh...I think it is putting that stuff somewhere besides store |
| [06:44:00] | FunkyELF: | it is putting it in / |
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| [06:44:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Hmmm. That sounds like misconfiguration to me :-) |
| [06:45:00] | gloin: | haha |
| [06:45:00] | gloin: | FunkyELF: that's kind of a silly place for it =] |
| [06:45:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Well, the mythbackend does run as root, so it'll have permissions to write there... |
| [06:45:00] | FunkyELF: | well...that isn't exactly where it is going |
| [06:45:00] | FunkyELF: | /dev/sda3 5004064 1363520 3640544 28% / |
| [06:45:00] | FunkyELF: | that is the one that is growing |
| [06:46:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Right. That makes it a bit harder to find out where it's writing to. |
| [06:46:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Hmmmm. |
| [06:47:00] | FunkyELF: | doh....i made a /store instead of a /mnt/store |
| [06:48:00] | FunkyELF: | I can fix that after this records....its only half an hour show and sda3 is only 33% full |
| [06:48:00] | FunkyELF: | so I another 15 minutes and I should be good |
| [06:48:00] | ShockValue: | gah.. the lircrc syntax is nowhere to be found |
| [06:48:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | whee, company I work for is on the market AGAIN |
| [06:49:00] | ** FunkyELF was suprised to see mythfrontend load on his windows machine using cygwin ** | |
| [06:49:00] | PaulWay[w]: | FunkyELF: do 'echo "select * from settings where value = 'RecordFilePrefix';" | mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg' |
| [06:49:00] | PaulWay[w]: | That's pretty impressive, FunkyELF |
| [06:50:00] | FunkyELF: | PaulWay[w], what will that do? |
| [06:50:00] | PaulWay[w]: | That'll print out where mythtv thinks it should write stored files to. |
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| [06:50:00] | FunkyELF: | PaulWay[w], where were you an hour ago when I was having database trouble? |
| [06:50:00] | PaulWay[w]: | ip_goat_rodeo: doesn't sound pleasant. |
| [06:51:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Hacking C for money. |
| [06:51:00] | PaulWay[w]: | What was the trouble? |
| [06:51:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | Well, this is like 4th time in 6 years or so |
| [06:51:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | interestingly, my company is in the black while our various parents were continuously running red ink... |
| [06:52:00] | FunkyELF: | PaulWay[w], well...I had my date set wrong. I had it pointing to /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST instead of /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Eastern |
| [06:52:00] | PaulWay[w]: | FunkyELF: Ah. That'd be confusing. |
| [06:53:00] | PaulWay[w]: | ip_goat_rodeo: what does your company do? |
| [06:53:00] | FunkyELF: | PaulWay[w], so my date was an hour off...when I fixed that problem my programs were showing up as 4 hours off |
| [06:53:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | FTTH, hosting, etc. |
| [06:53:00] | FunkyELF: | PaulWay[w], so I tried to run mythfilldatabase and it wouldn't overwrite the data that was already there....so I needed some quick help to get into mysql to delete those records in that table |
| [06:53:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | voip too |
| [06:54:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Doesn't everyone do voip these days? |
| [06:54:00] | gloin: | no |
| [06:54:00] | PaulWay[w]: | :-) |
| [06:54:00] | FunkyELF: | PaulWay[w], some of the guys in #mysql want me to read 100 pages of documentation before they'll help me |
| [06:54:00] | gloin: | some of us live in the boonies and vonage won't give us a local area code |
| [06:54:00] | gloin: | I stick to ichat and other applications for voip |
| [06:54:00] | PaulWay[w]: | FunkyELF: They can be like that. |
| [06:55:00] | PaulWay[w]: | SQL is actually pretty easy to learn, but you do actually have to learn if you want to use it. |
| [06:55:00] | FunkyELF: | PaulWay[w], well I understand to a certain extent....I just needed help getting in. Once I was in I could look around and see what i want to wipe out. |
| [06:56:00] | FunkyELF: | PaulWay[w], well yeah, I know a little oracle from work |
| [06:56:00] | PaulWay[w]: | FunkyELF: This comes of a lot of people expecting IRC channels to be a paid help desk :-) |
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| [06:57:00] | PaulWay[w]: | gloin: When they solve the emergency call problem, then I'll start taking notice of voip :-) |
| [06:57:00] | gloin: | PaulWay[w]: they have |
| [06:57:00] | gloin: | they setup a database |
| [06:58:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Well, they still seem to be wrestling with it here in Australia... |
| [06:58:00] | gloin: | when you start service, you give a location of your voip phone, and you're to change it when/if you move |
| [06:58:00] | PaulWay[w]: | And if your internet connection is out and your phone doesn't work and you want to call for help? What happens then? |
| [06:59:00] | FunkyELF: | man is mpeg2 compressed at all??? I have two recordings and they're very very close in size |
| [06:59:00] | FunkyELF: | I'm running "watch ls -al" in /mnt/store |
| [06:59:00] | gloin: | PaulWay[w]: then you.... DIE! |
| [07:00:00] | PaulWay[w]: | FunkyELF: are you using digital TV? |
| [07:00:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I.e. recording straight from an MPEG2 stream? |
| [07:00:00] | FunkyELF: | PaulWay[w], analog cable -> PVR-500MCE |
| [07:00:00] | FunkyELF: | HW mpeg2 encoders |
| [07:00:00] | ShockValue: | emergency call = cell phone. same as if your power goes out and you have only corless phones. or if the telephone pole falls and drops all lines to your house... VOIP causes no /new/ issues |
| [07:01:00] | FunkyELF: | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1165543360 Oct 14 01:00 1066_20051014003000_20051014010000.nuv |
| [07:01:00] | FunkyELF: | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1165297600 Oct 14 01:00 1073_20051014003000_20051014010000.nuv |
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| [07:01:00] | FunkyELF: | that is pretty darn close |
| [07:01:00] | PaulWay[w]: | gloin: True. Unfortunately people want more security, rather than less. |
| [07:01:00] | gloin: | ShockValue: you're no fun. I say if his power goes out, he dies. Sure as the sun goes up =] |
| [07:01:00] | PaulWay[w]: | FunkyELF: What's probably happening is that it's encoding at a fixed bit rate. |
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| [07:01:00] | PaulWay[w]: | It's a space vs speed tradeoff, as well as a space vs quality tradeoff. |
| [07:01:00] | FunkyELF: | PaulWay[w], yeah....those are my first two recordings....tomorrow I will try to figure out transcoding ;-) |
| [07:02:00] | Rince: | question: does anyone know where to configure how to reach mythbackend? it can not be hardcoded in the code, is it? |
| [07:02:00] | PaulWay[w]: | So I don't consider that unusual, if they're roughly the same duration. |
| [07:02:00] | FunkyELF: | ...as they are right now...are these .nuv files just mpeg files? Can I stream them to my windows box? |
| [07:02:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Rince: You're trying to set up a remote front end? |
| [07:02:00] | Rince: | PaulWay[w]: yes |
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| [07:02:00] | Rince: | since my TV died I want to use my laptop temporarily |
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| [07:03:00] | PaulWay[w]: | FunkyELF: yes, although you'll need something that can play nuv files. nuv is just a wrapper around the content, but the player needs to understand that. |
| [07:03:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Rince: How far have you progressed? |
| [07:03:00] | FunkyELF: | PaulWay[w], okay...because when I tested my tuner using the cat command on /dev/video0 I was able to play those files in windows |
| [07:03:00] | Rince: | PaulWay[w]: I am able to use the remote mysql-Database, but mythfrontend tries to connect to 127.0.0.1:6543 as backend; and I can not find where to change that |
| [07:04:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Rince: easy. |
| [07:04:00] | FunkyELF: | alright....well now that the recordings have stopped. It is time to fix my partitioning. do I need to worry about this nfslockfile.lock? |
| [07:04:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Go into mythfrontend, go to setup -> general, and there's an option for the name of the mythbackend host in the first screen. |
| [07:05:00] | FunkyELF: | I am going to cp /mnt/store/* /store |
| [07:05:00] | PaulWay[w]: | FunkyELF: Is anything else connected to your machine via NFS? |
| [07:05:00] | FunkyELF: | then fix fstab to mount /dev/vg/store at /mnt/store instead of /store |
| [07:05:00] | FunkyELF: | PaulWay[w], nope |
| [07:05:00] | PaulWay[w]: | FunkyELF: Ah, I see what you're doing. That makes sense. |
| [07:06:00] | FunkyELF: | PaulWay[w], yeah, you can see how I messed up too |
| [07:06:00] | PaulWay[w]: | FunkyELF: you can try fuser nfslockfile.lock as root to tell you which processes are using it. |
| [07:06:00] | FunkyELF: | and then can I get names from those PID's? |
| [07:06:00] | FunkyELF: | or just ps -eaf | grep id |
| [07:06:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Don't worry, I had to copy my entire /opt/* of two disks to a third disk (borrowed from work) and then created the LVM and copied it back. |
| [07:07:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I only had 13GB free on a 250GB disk... |
| [07:07:00] | PaulWay[w]: | FunkyELF: ps -fp id |
| [07:07:00] | FunkyELF: | I have two 300GB hard disks |
| [07:07:00] | PaulWay[w]: | You lucky devil! |
| [07:07:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Are you mirroring? |
| [07:07:00] | FunkyELF: | nah |
| [07:07:00] | Rince: | PaulWay[w]: in the setup/general I can only set the database-connection (as far as I can see), that's why I am wondering... |
| [07:07:00] | FunkyELF: | I was thinking about dual-booting, but probably not anymore |
| [07:08:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Hmmm. I'm sure it was in there somewhere. |
| [07:08:00] | FunkyELF: | What I am gonna try to do is set up an encrypted filesystem to store my mp3's / videos and such |
| [07:08:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I'm not at home at the moment so I can't check. Can any of you guys check where the option to set the mythbackend machine in the mythfrontend setup? |
| [07:08:00] | FunkyELF: | "in case someone breaks into my house and steals my computer, I wouldn't want the RIAA to go after them since the theif doesn't own the originals like I do" ;-) |
| [07:09:00] | FunkyELF: | It is in option 1 I believe |
| [07:09:00] | Rince: | PaulWay[w]: that's what I thought too :) |
| [07:10:00] | ShockValue: | if they steal your computer, they have your encryption keys too.. what good would that do? |
| [07:11:00] | Rince: | anyway... godda catch the bus, see you later |
| [07:11:00] | FunkyELF: | ShockValue, how would they have my encryption keys? |
| [07:11:00] | ShockValue: | your private keys are usually stored on your computer. |
| [07:11:00] | PaulWay[w]: | FunkyELF: where do the encryption keys come from? Do you type them in in a command to unlock your storage? |
| [07:12:00] | FunkyELF: | PaulWay[w], yes |
| [07:12:00] | FunkyELF: | you generate a random master key using /dev/random or whatever |
| [07:12:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Then they have the public keys from your terminal history. |
| [07:12:00] | FunkyELF: | then you encrypt that using a passphrase of your choosing |
| [07:12:00] | FunkyELF: | what is stored on the hard drive an encrypted copy of the master key |
| [07:12:00] | ShockValue: | so you have to type in a password every time you wanna listen to an mp3? |
| [07:12:00] | FunkyELF: | at boot time you need to enter a password to mount that drive |
| [07:13:00] | ShockValue: | i guess that would slow them down. |
| [07:13:00] | FunkyELF: | That doesn't get stored in the terminal history |
| [07:13:00] | PaulWay[w]: | True. |
| [07:13:00] | FunkyELF: | they use symetric ciphers which are pretty fast |
| [07:14:00] | PaulWay[w]: | You could get it in a variety of ways if you could get the box in a running state. |
| [07:14:00] | FunkyELF: | ...and there is a way to encrypt swap and /tmp |
| [07:14:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I.e. don't unplug it. |
| [07:14:00] | PaulWay[w]: | If they really need the key, they get you and make you type it in or you get your fingers broken. |
| [07:15:00] | FunkyELF: | I've never heard of the MPAA or RIAA doin that |
| [07:15:00] | FunkyELF: | anyone here familiar with LVM? |
| [07:15:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Or the police get you and force you to hand over your keys as part of their investigation, and if you don't they assert that you're holding masses of illegal stuff on there and give you the maximum sentence. |
| [07:15:00] | PaulWay[w]: | FunkyELF: They have lawyers to do it for you. |
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| [07:16:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Yeah, what do you want to know? |
| [07:16:00] | FunkyELF: | i extended my LVM today but when I run df it is showing /store as 22% after I copied those 2 shows over |
| [07:16:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Rince: How are you getting on? |
| [07:16:00] | FunkyELF: | I extended it by 50 gig |
| [07:16:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Did you also extend the file system? |
| [07:16:00] | FunkyELF: | is there something I need to run afterwards to make it realize that? |
| [07:17:00] | FunkyELF: | well...I have most of a 300 gig hard drive as a physical volume |
| [07:17:00] | FunkyELF: | I added that whole physical volume to a volume group called vg |
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| [07:18:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Does the file system size match the LVM's logical partition size? |
| [07:18:00] | FunkyELF: | then I created some logical volumes in it including /dev/vg/store which was 10 gig |
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| [07:18:00] | FunkyELF: | then I extended it by 45gig to make it 55 gig |
| [07:18:00] | FunkyELF: | PaulWay[w], no, it still shows it as 10 gig |
| [07:19:00] | FunkyELF: | all I ran was lvextend -L+45G /dev/vg/store |
| [07:19:00] | PaulWay[w]: | You need to extend your file system to match the logical partition's size. |
| [07:19:00] | FunkyELF: | do I need to run something else? |
| [07:19:00] | PaulWay[w]: | logical volume, sorry. |
| [07:19:00] | PaulWay[w]: | What file system are you running on it? |
| [07:19:00] | FunkyELF: | jfs |
| [07:20:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Righto. I think you can extend that. |
| [07:20:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | jfs and xfs I'm pretty sure you can, don't know about others. |
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| [07:20:00] | prolific_: | hello |
| [07:20:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Hi! |
| [07:20:00] | prolific_: | when you run mythfilldatabase, which field in your myth database does it fill with the channel info |
| [07:21:00] | PaulWay[w]: | You can extend reiserfs too. I use xfs. |
| [07:21:00] | FunkyELF: | PaulWay[w], so what command is that. Like I said, I already ran lvextend |
| [07:21:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | I used xfs back in the SGI days |
| [07:21:00] | PaulWay[w]: | It should put the data into the programs table, prolific_. |
| [07:21:00] | PaulWay[w]: | It's open source now, ip_goat_rodeo |
| [07:21:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | yeah, but the best bits are gone |
| [07:21:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Hey, give me a break, I'm answering three questions and looking it up on the web. |
| [07:22:00] | kahuna_: | What WM do you guys suggest for Myth? |
| [07:22:00] | PaulWay[w]: | FunkyELF: http://tdlp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/extendlv.html |
| [07:22:00] | PaulWay[w]: | kahuna_: I use gnome and it's fine. |
| [07:22:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | the integration with the SGI lvm system was best bit about xfs |
| [07:23:00] | FunkyELF: | PaulWay[w], that brougth me to an emedicine site |
| [07:23:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Interesting. FunkyELF, do 'mount -o remount,resize /store' |
| [07:23:00] | PaulWay[w]: | oops, that'll teach me to type URLs. |
| [07:23:00] | PaulWay[w]: | tldp.org |
| [07:23:00] | FunkyELF: | PaulWay[w], do I need to run vgscan or vgchange or anything like that? |
| [07:23:00] | kahuna_: | Cool. I won't be running a desktop. What's lightweight and works? |
| [07:23:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | twm? |
| [07:24:00] | kahuna_: | lol |
| [07:24:00] | PaulWay[w]: | You've extended the logical volume, that's it. |
| [07:24:00] | kahuna_: | now thats lightwieght |
| [07:24:00] | PaulWay[w]: | ip_goat_rodeo: what integration was that? |
| [07:24:00] | FunkyELF: | PaulWay[w], okay...now I need to extend the filesystem |
| [07:24:00] | PaulWay[w]: | kahuna_: and it works, apparently :-) |
| [07:24:00] | PaulWay[w]: | FunkyELF: does df -k tell you this is true? |
| [07:24:00] | kahuna_: | good. |
| [07:24:00] | kahuna_: | thanks guys |
| [07:25:00] | FunkyELF: | df -k shows it as 10 gig |
| [07:25:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Use the mount command I gave above. |
| [07:25:00] | prolific_: | should i run mythsetup as root or user ? |
| [07:25:00] | PaulWay[w]: | prolific_: root. |
| [07:26:00] | prolific_: | ok |
| [07:26:00] | FunkyELF: | PaulWay[w], yup, that did it |
| [07:26:00] | FunkyELF: | ...great |
| [07:26:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | didn't have to manually resize things, guaranteed bandwidth (for instance I require 30mbyte/sec to the volume I store my uncompressed video and system will drop everything else to give it) |
| [07:26:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | the guaranteed bandwidth in xlv/xfs was great |
| [07:27:00] | PaulWay[w]: | ip_goat_rodeo: I'm working on an idea for a file system that includes automatic redundancy across multiple volumes, without sacrificing disk space. |
| [07:27:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | no dropped frames on video captures |
| [07:27:00] | FunkyELF: | now I can go to sleep ;-) |
| [07:27:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | store parity in hyperspace? |
| [07:27:00] | PaulWay[w]: | ip_goat_rodeo: But to work it has to know what sections of the file system are on what disks. |
| [07:27:00] | PaulWay[w]: | ip_goat_rodeo: store duplicate copies of inodes and data distributed across the disks. |
| [07:28:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Then if one dies, you still have a backup copy. |
| [07:28:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | I just raid1 everything *shrug* |
| [07:29:00] | PaulWay[w]: | The catch is that if you go beyond the capacity of the mirrored equivalent of your disk space, then what's written isn't backed up. |
| [07:29:00] | PaulWay[w]: | ip_goat_rodeo: when I have money I'll do that. |
| [07:29:00] | PaulWay[w]: | OK, time for me to get back to work. |
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| [07:30:00] | prolific_: | how come i get this error when trying to view the EPG in myth |
| [07:31:00] | prolific_: | You don't have any channels defined in the database |
| [07:31:00] | prolific_: | This isn't going to work |
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| [07:33:00] | ShockValue: | ooo, here's a new one.. how do i start "mtd" at boot? |
| [07:35:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Well, you could put a command to launch it in /etc/rc.d/rc.local |
| [07:36:00] | ShockValue: | hrm.. i stuck it in .xinitrc ill see if that works |
| [07:39:00] | Rince: | PaulWay[w]: I was also sure that there _somewhere_ is it to configure, but I can't find it. Therefore I'll try the sources :) |
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| [07:41:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Rince: I've looked in the mythconverg settings table and there's nothing that's obviously the Right Thing there. |
| [07:41:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I'm _sure_ it's in there, I had this exact same problem a couple of weeks ago. |
| [07:44:00] | prolific_: | how can i check if mythfilldatabase is filling in the data correctly into the database |
| [07:44:00] | prolific_: | i dont think its filling anything at all |
| [07:44:00] | prolific_: | i have phpmyadmin installed |
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| [07:45:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Look in the channels and program tables in phpmyadmin, prolific_. |
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| [07:45:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Have you got the XMLTV IDs set up correctly? |
| [07:46:00] | prolific_: | xmltv ? |
| [07:46:00] | prolific_: | im using zap2it datadirect |
| [07:46:00] | prolific_: | i just entered my user/pass in mythfrontend |
| [07:46:00] | prolific_: | in fact i dont even have xmltv installed |
| [07:47:00] | prolific_: | the channel and program tables are 1kb each |
| [07:47:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Well, that uses a program called tv_grab_us (I think), which uses XML to store its information. |
| [07:47:00] | prolific_: | so i dont think anything is stored there |
| [07:47:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Have you set any channels up in mythtvsetup? |
| [07:47:00] | prolific_: | no |
| [07:48:00] | Rince: | PaulWay[w]: I see it at the backend-sourcecode, but not at the frontend |
| [07:48:00] | Rince: | very strange |
| [07:48:00] | PaulWay[w]: | It is indeed odd. |
| [07:48:00] | PaulWay[w]: | I'm sure it's there, though I was in exactly your situation. |
| [07:49:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Can anyone else here with a running front end (remote or otherwise) find where you put in the name of the mythbackend machine (to connect on port 6543 to) in the mythfrontend setup? |
| [07:50:00] | prolific_: | ok i checked the channel field |
| [07:50:00] | prolific_: | mythfilldatabase isnt putting anything there |
| [07:50:00] | PaulWay[w]: | by 'field' do you mean 'table'? |
| [07:50:00] | PaulWay[w]: | a database is made up of tables which are made up of fields. |
| [07:50:00] | prolific_: | i added a chan manually and it appeared in the channel table .. so i know that the database is setup correctly |
| [07:50:00] | prolific_: | yea the channel table |
| [07:50:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Righto. |
| [07:51:00] | prolific_: | are u in north america ? |
| [07:51:00] | PaulWay[w]: | You need channels in the database, with correct XMLTV IDs, before mythfilldatabase is going to work. |
| [07:51:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Australia. |
| [07:51:00] | PaulWay[w]: | So it's different for me :-) |
| [07:51:00] | prolific_: | how would i get teh chans in there ? |
| [07:51:00] | PaulWay[w]: | The procedure is pretty well documented on mythtv.org and mythtv.info and wilsonet.com |
| [07:52:00] | Rince: | | MasterServerIP | 127.0.0.1 | NULL | |
| [07:52:00] | Rince: | | MasterServerPort | 6543 | NULL | |
| [07:52:00] | Rince: | Hmm |
| [07:52:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Aaaaaahhhhh! |
| [07:52:00] | PaulWay[w]: | That's it. |
| [07:53:00] | Rince: | that's not really good.. |
| [07:53:00] | Rince: | *thinking* |
| [07:53:00] | PaulWay[w]: | "update settings set data = '<your backend IP address>' where value = 'MasterServerIP'; |
| [07:53:00] | Rince: | so I have to put this into my public IP address, restart the backend-Server... |
| [07:53:00] | PaulWay[w]: | " |
| [07:53:00] | Rince: | yes, sure :) |
| [07:53:00] | Rince: | but it's a bad way :) |
| [07:53:00] | Rince: | (at least it will work) |
| [07:54:00] | Rince: | interesting enough: the backend doesn't _care_ for that entry |
| [07:54:00] | Rince: | the backend listens on every interface, not just 127.0.0.1 |
| [07:55:00] | PaulWay[w]: | True. |
| [07:55:00] | PaulWay[w]: | You'd hope it would. |
| [07:55:00] | Rince: | no |
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| [07:55:00] | PaulWay[w]: | If it was only listening on the lo interface you'd never be able to talk to it from afar. |
| [07:55:00] | Rince: | I'd hope that I would be able to configure on which interface the backend listens :) |
| [07:55:00] | Rince: | PaulWay[w]: I know. But I am paranoid enough to ohpe that _I_ can decide when I want to talk to it from afar :) |
| [07:56:00] | Rince: | but at least – it works. And now I have to finish my work (in roundabout 7h) and test it :) |
| [07:56:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Easy! |
| [07:57:00] | PaulWay[w]: | prolific_: good question. |
| [07:58:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Now that you mention it, I think the tv_grab_?? is supposed to set up the channel table if it gets new tables that aren't already there. |
| [07:58:00] | PaulWay[w]: | But it's been ages since I looked. |
| [07:58:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Follow a good howto. |
| [07:58:00] | Rince: | is anyone here programming on mythtv-backend? this should be changed |
| [07:58:00] | prolific_: | i think i got it working now |
| [07:58:00] | Rince: | PaulWay[w]: I think that hardly depends on the country you're in. In Germany this would never work eg |
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| [08:00:00] | prolific_: | yeap its working now =) |
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| [08:02:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Rince: it's in there somewhere, I swear, I found it in the front end setup screens and changed it myself not a month ago. |
| [08:02:00] | Rince: | PaulWay[w]: no... what I mean is that the backend should look into the database on which interfaces it should listen |
| [08:02:00] | Rince: | PaulWay[w]: I agree that that configuration is _somewhere- and I guess it is in mythsetup |
| [08:02:00] | Rince: | not in the frontend-configuration |
| [08:04:00] | ** PaulWay[w] *shrugs helplessly* ** | |
| [08:05:00] | PaulWay[w]: | prolific_: another satisfied customer :-) |
| [08:05:00] | Rince: | I'll ask Beirdo *g+ |
| [08:06:00] | prolific_: | mythtv has a very nice looking epg |
| [08:06:00] | prolific_: | huge improvement over yaepg |
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| [08:17:00] | updatelee: | just wish I could get eit working |
| [08:18:00] | updatelee: | lol, then the epg would look better :) |
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| [08:30:00] | PaulWay[w]: | updatelee: what's going wrong? |
| [08:30:00] | updatelee: | its not populating |
| [08:31:00] | PaulWay[w]: | As in, mythfilldatabase isn't populating the program guide? |
| [08:31:00] | PaulWay[w]: | prolific_ just got his working... |
| [08:31:00] | updatelee: | eit isnt populating the epg |
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| [08:33:00] | updatelee: | mythfilldatabase was working *ok*, not great. wanted to try eit, would be so much nicer |
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| [08:34:00] | PaulWay[w]: | When you say 'eit', are you just misspelling 'it' or is this some new term I haven't heard of. |
| [08:34:00] | updatelee: | --enable-dvb-eit |
| [08:35:00] | updatelee: | download's the guide from the sat stream |
| [08:35:00] | updatelee: | some people reporting it working great, others say its populating some channels, not others. I cant get it to add even one event |
| [08:36:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Aaaahhh, that's something I haven't tried. |
| [08:36:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Basically because the instream program guides here in Australia are crap. |
| [08:37:00] | updatelee: | ahh |
| [08:37:00] | PaulWay[w]: | So I can't really help you here... |
| [08:37:00] | updatelee: | im in canada, DN usually has a good 9day guide, very nice. when it works. lol |
| [08:37:00] | updatelee: | I just cant get mythtv to grab it, mytheatre downloaded it no problem |
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| [08:39:00] | updatelee: | im still playing, editing files, reading web, google is my friend, lol |
| [08:39:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Persevere, and then write the web page about how to do it :-) |
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| [08:42:00] | ShockValue: | doesnt zap2it cover canada too? |
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| [08:43:00] | FITH: | Yup, (at least it covers Shaw in Alberta |
| [08:43:00] | FITH: | ) |
| [08:44:00] | updatelee: | ShockValue: im using dishnet right now and it works for dishnet, I dont know about expressvu |
| [08:47:00] | updatelee: | hmm, got it populating some of the guide now, was on wrong TP, was told TP21 wasnt getting anything, TP29 seems to be working |
| [08:47:00] | updatelee: | getting buffer errors, increased the buffer and recompiling now |
| [08:48:00] | updatelee: | lets see how much it populates ;) |
| [08:49:00] | updatelee: | hmm mysql errors too, lol, im gona have to play some more lol |
| [08:49:00] | updatelee: | who wants to buy a stb when you can have this much fun eh ? |
| [08:49:00] | KaZeR: | hi there |
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| [08:53:00] | updatelee: | hello |
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| [09:30:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Dammit, fastclick.net is somehow getting around Firefox's 'no popups' rule... |
| [09:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | block it in your router :) |
| [09:34:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Hmmmm – I'll have to work out how I do that in Smoothwall. |
| [09:35:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Actually, since it's my work machine, and I'm on a campus network, I'll have to do it on my machine. |
| [09:35:00] | PaulWay[w]: | (Smoothwall is at home, when I remember) |
| [09:36:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Which probably means having to do something clever in iptables. |
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| [09:42:00] | Cardoe: | PaulWay[w]: or /etc/hosts |
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| [09:50:00] | PaulWay[w]: | Hmmm – /etc/hosts, of course. How could I have not thought of that. |
| [09:50:00] | ** PaulWay[w] slaps forehead ** | |
| [09:51:00] | PaulWay[w]: | OK, I'm off – take it easy dudes. |
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| [10:44:00] | PaulWay: | How are we going, boys and girls? |
| [10:45:00] | PaulWay: | Anyone using X-Chat here, BTW? |
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| [11:27:00] | Gumby: | "processed: 115680 of 113835 frams (101.62%), 5.88 fps. <---- is that normal for transcode to go over 100%? |
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| [11:36:00] | Gumby: | After transcode was finished its first part, I get the following "ERROR: Input file ./Survivor- Guatemala – The Maya Empire – Crocs, Cowboys, and City Slickers.10672.mpa was not found" , ls in that directory shows "Survivor- Guatemala – The Maya Empire – Crocs, Cowboys, and City Slickers.10672???????(p?@?" has anyone seen that before? And is there a way of restarting from where it left off? |
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| [12:06:00] | jd86: | I have this wierd bar of grey block things that are flashing on and off on one channel |
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| [13:33:00] | malaTG: | Is there a changelog somewhere on which changes there have been in myth since the release of 0.18? |
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| [13:54:00] | klpt: | good morning! |
| [13:54:00] | laga: | hi klpt |
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| [13:58:00] | moogman: | Hello everyone. I'm trying to setup my DVB card with mythtv-setup. Now, it detects the card and the name of the card etc in the "Capture Cards" dialog, but I can't seem to save it |
| [13:59:00] | klpt: | so when you go back to mythtv-setup it just isn't there anymore? |
| [13:59:00] | moogman: | When I click "Finish", it doesn't even show up in the listbox |
| [13:59:00] | moogman: | It just stays as "(New Capture Card)" |
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| [14:00:00] | moogman: | Hmm, in fact I don't think it's saving any of the settings |
| [14:00:00] | moogman: | There are a few database errors at the top |
| [14:01:00] | klpt: | did you create the mythconverg database? did you tell the mythtv-setup program where it was in the first menu dialog? |
| [14:01:00] | moogman: | I haven't created the database |
| [14:01:00] | klpt: | d'oh! |
| [14:01:00] | moogman: | Although mysqld is running, and a database exists there |
| [14:01:00] | klpt: | that's like... the very first step |
| [14:02:00] | klpt: | http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO.html#toc6.2 |
| [14:02:00] | moogman: | Haha ok. Well I apt-get'd in mythtv in Ubuntu and assumed it'd do the majority of the work |
| [14:02:00] | laga: | that's like..you didn't read the docs |
| [14:02:00] | moogman: | laga: You are correct. Ubuntu has made me lazy :S |
| [14:03:00] | moogman: | Hmm, I wonder why the ubuntu package doesn't auto-configure this for you |
| [14:03:00] | laga: | moogman: well, actually, the package mythtv-database should have taken care of that |
| [14:04:00] | moogman: | laga: Hmm. I installed the package. I'll read the README.Debian |
| [14:05:00] | laga: | sounds good |
| [14:05:00] | klpt: | what are the database errors the program spits out? |
| [14:05:00] | moogman: | Errors that make it obvious that 'mythconverg.keybindings doesn't exist :p |
| [14:05:00] | klpt: | ahh |
| [14:06:00] | moogman: | First error... "QString::arg(): Argument missing: ERROR: Unable to acquire database upgrade lock, Driver error was [2/1017]:" |
| [14:06:00] | klpt: | btw, if you don't know SQL or are a lazy SOB (like me) install phpmyadmin so you can putz around the database more easily |
| [14:07:00] | moogman: | I'm happy with SQL |
| [14:07:00] | moogman: | moogman@greebo:~$ mysql -u root < /usr/share/mythtv/sql/mc.sql |
| [14:07:00] | moogman: | ERROR 1007 at line 1: Can't create database 'mythconverg'. Database exists |
| [14:07:00] | moogman: | It seems that mythtv-database did a half job |
| [14:07:00] | klpt: | when you ran mythtv-setup |
| [14:07:00] | klpt: | under general settings |
| [14:07:00] | klpt: | did you configure database access? |
| [14:07:00] | klpt: | ie, specified the mysql server? |
| [14:08:00] | moogman: | It was set to localhost |
| [14:08:00] | moogman: | mythtv-setup connects to the db |
| [14:10:00] | moogman: | I originally thought it was stupid to have a mythtv. I just figured out why... because of DVR boxes and keyboard-less systems etc, with gdm autologin. D'oh! |
| [14:10:00] | malaTG: | Hi everyone! A question. Is there a changelog over which changes that has been made in the cvs? |
| [14:10:00] | moogman: | s/have a mythtv/have a mythtv user/ |
| [14:10:00] | laga: | malaTG: look for commits and tickets at svn.mythtv.org |
| [14:11:00] | malaTG: | thx |
| [14:13:00] | malaTG: | Is there anything said about when 0.19 will be released? |
| [14:14:00] | klpt: | current word from the devs is: it'll be a while |
| [14:14:00] | klpt: | and that's all |
| [14:14:00] | laga: | "when it's done" |
| [14:14:00] | moogman: | Aha this is better. I dropped the table, re-ran the sql script and it seems to have no errors |
| [14:14:00] | klpt: | which sounds fine to me, since anybody is welcome to use SVN |
| [14:15:00] | klpt: | ...and on that note |
| [14:15:00] | klpt: | I can't compile mythplugins from SVN – at least not for the last couple of weeks |
| [14:15:00] | malaTG: | how hard is it to uprgade to svn? |
| [14:15:00] | malaTG: | I use my myth very much daily |
| [14:15:00] | moogman: | Ah much better. {klpt, laga}, shall I add an Ubuntu section to the Wiki/FAQ? |
| [14:16:00] | klpt: | ehh, maybe contact the pkg maintainer and tell him his pkg sucks |
| [14:16:00] | moogman: | Haha |
| [14:16:00] | klpt: | or explain the bug |
| [14:16:00] | moogman: | I'll do that |
| [14:16:00] | klpt: | your call |
| [14:16:00] | klpt: | :p |
| [14:16:00] | klpt: | anyway, I'm getting compile errors on all the subdirs of mythplugins |
| [14:17:00] | klpt: | make[2]: *** No rule to make target `mythconfig.mak', needed by `Makefile'. Stop. |
| [14:17:00] | moogman: | Well contacting the package manager wont help with old versions of Ubuntu, only future so I guess I'll add both |
| [14:17:00] | klpt: | I checked the mailing list |
| [14:17:00] | malaTG: | do you use your svn distributions daily or more like check them for errors? |
| [14:17:00] | moogman: | klpt: Try running the autogen.sh script again? |
| [14:18:00] | klpt: | I've run the configure script |
| [14:18:00] | klpt: | and it seems ok |
| [14:18:00] | klpt: | and it makes a symlink to my mythconfig.mak file on my system |
| [14:18:00] | klpt: | and the symlink works |
| [14:18:00] | klpt: | but none of the subdirs want to compile |
| [14:18:00] | klpt: | I tried copying the actual file to each of the subdirs (what someone on the mailing list did) |
| [14:19:00] | klpt: | but that didn't fix anything |
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| [14:22:00] | klpt: | aha |
| [14:22:00] | klpt: | putting it in the subdir/subdir did it |
| [14:22:00] | klpt: | but that's a fugly thing to have to do to make the install work |
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| [14:54:00] | Hoxzer: | is mx400 good enought for HTPC use? |
| [14:54:00] | klpt: | depends on what you want to do with your htpc |
| [14:54:00] | klpt: | if you're ok with its tv out quality |
| [14:54:00] | klpt: | then it's fine |
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| [14:55:00] | klpt: | if you want to play quake 3.... then maybe not |
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| [15:09:00] | Randall64: | quake3 isn't very demanding by today's standards |
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| [15:09:00] | dev-: | surprised how well it runs on an nvidia quadro |
| [15:10:00] | Randall64: | Didn't they open source it? |
| [15:10:00] | dev-: | ayeah, recently. that was the binary q3demo even |
| [15:10:00] | Randall64: | That could make for some good open source games. |
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| [15:13:00] | Randall64: | I'm working from home so I can take delivery of my new projector. |
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| [15:42:00] | moogman: | Does anyone know of a channels.conf to MythTV-MySQL script? |
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| [16:04:00] | klpt: | I'm thinking of making an xbox frontend – any recs on distro? |
| [16:05:00] | laga: | klpt: www.xbox-mythtv.org could help you probably |
| [16:05:00] | klpt: | yay, 404 |
| [16:05:00] | klpt: | :p |
| [16:05:00] | klpt: | http://bit.blkbk.com/ |
| [16:05:00] | klpt: | maybe? |
| [16:06:00] | lordliima: | i have xbox frontend |
| [16:06:00] | lordliima: | but it quite sucks :) |
| [16:07:00] | klpt: | really? |
| [16:07:00] | klpt: | why? |
| [16:07:00] | lordliima: | well, buffering and all the bugs in the frontend software |
| [16:07:00] | lordliima: | it's decent, but not really good |
| [16:07:00] | rjune: | the xbox have a bad sound card? |
| [16:07:00] | rjune: | that's been my biggest gripe |
| [16:08:00] | lordliima: | err? |
| [16:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | Most peoples issue is the low amount of ram on the xbox causing lag/swapping |
| [16:08:00] | klpt: | well, I admit mythfrontend in general is somewhat borked, but will it serve for a secondary tv? |
| [16:08:00] | lordliima: | klpt: yea |
| [16:08:00] | klpt: | cool |
| [16:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | klpt: Please elaborate |
| [16:09:00] | rjune: | yeah please, I use it for two different TVs |
| [16:09:00] | klpt: | well, mythbackend has proven to be a pretty solid piece of work for me |
| [16:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use it on 4 TV's |
| [16:09:00] | rjune: | and I was thinking about getting an XBox to mount in my van |
| [16:09:00] | lordliima: | you just gotta have some nerves and dont do anything stupid with the frontend :) |
| [16:09:00] | klpt: | the scheduler works (most of the time, its dupechecking works/doesn't work depending on how new of an SVN I use) |
| [16:09:00] | klpt: | but |
| [16:09:00] | klpt: | mythfrontend has always had issues for me |
| [16:09:00] | klpt: | the biggest being random segfaults |
| [16:09:00] | klpt: | well, not so random |
| [16:10:00] | lordliima: | for example if you boot xbox while watching live tv, backend just stucks recording the live buffer |
| [16:10:00] | klpt: | usually when exiting a recording |
| [16:10:00] | ** GreyFoxx is running svn (as of 2 days ago) on a Master + slave backend, 3 frontend,. with a mediamvp in the mix ** | |
| [16:10:00] | rjune: | that's the only thing I don't use mythtv for, it's tvio abilites |
| [16:10:00] | klpt: | I just finished compiling today's SVN |
| [16:10:00] | rjune: | laga: that webserver is down |
| [16:12:00] | laga: | sad |
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| [16:18:00] | Rince: | evening |
| [16:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mornin too :) |
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| [16:38:00] | Hoxzer: | hi |
| [16:38:00] | Hoxzer: | somebody here has installed mythtv 0.18 to ubuntu? |
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| [18:07:00] | Hoxzer: | hi |
| [18:07:00] | klpt: | good afternoon |
| [18:07:00] | Hoxzer: | somebody here has ubuntu? |
| [18:07:00] | klpt: | not I |
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| [18:07:00] | Hoxzer: | damn |
| [18:07:00] | radiatorbp: | Hya all! |
| [18:07:00] | klpt: | hey |
| [18:07:00] | juski: | I have ubuntu.. but it's not on any system of mine :) |
| [18:08:00] | Hoxzer: | can I somehow remove the configures what I made in last istall wich failed |
| [18:08:00] | Hoxzer: | now I can't change mysql password |
| [18:08:00] | radiatorbp: | Anyone here usiing a PVR card with a DVB in paralell? |
| [18:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | radiatorbp: I use both, but the dvb card is in a slave backend and the pvr cards are in the master. |
| [18:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | I briefly had them in the same box a long time ago |
| [18:10:00] | radiatorbp: | GreyFoxx : Just 1 question: Is it possible to change tuners without having to press Y on the keyboard? |
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| [18:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | radio: I've never tried |
| [18:10:00] | radiatorbp: | What is the use of the browse programmes and the Swap PIP functions if myth cannot change tuner cards |
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| [18:11:00] | radiatorbp: | Have you never tried to watch a channel on the dvb and then try to watch one on the pvr??? |
| [18:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | I know people have had issues with that before, and someone was either working on something in SVN or it's already been commited. I can try it when I get hom |
| [18:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | radiatorbp: No |
| [18:11:00] | radiatorbp: | ;) |
| [18:11:00] | radiatorbp: | I'm using SVN version from last week |
| [18:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't use LiveTV, pretty much at all |
| [18:11:00] | klpt: | me neither, I use my TV when watching live tv |
| [18:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | And the rare times I do I've not had to change tuners |
| [18:12:00] | juski: | I don't use livetv, and now tend to switch off when peopple say 'livetv' |
| [18:12:00] | Gumby: | After transcode was finished its first part, I get the following "ERROR: Input file ./Survivor- Guatemala – The Maya Empire – Crocs, Cowboys, and City Slickers.10672.mpa was not found" , ls in that directory shows "Survivor- Guatemala – The Maya Empire – Crocs, Cowboys, and City Slickers.10672???????(p?@?" has anyone seen that before and does anyone know a possibly solution to it? |
| [18:12:00] | radiatorbp: | Why is livetv so offtopic? |
| [18:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | radiatorbp: I'll certainly give it a shot later :) |
| [18:12:00] | radiatorbp: | thanks. |
| [18:12:00] | klpt: | because people feel that livetv is not within the scope of mythtv |
| [18:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | radiatorbp: It's not offtopic. It's just that after using a pvr for a while most people don't bother with it |
| [18:12:00] | klpt: | though I think it should be... |
| [18:12:00] | klpt: | since it is the first thing on the menu |
| [18:12:00] | klpt: | :p |
| [18:13:00] | radiatorbp: | my WIFE does! |
| [18:13:00] | juski: | livetv is like so 1950s |
| [18:13:00] | Gumby: | I use mythtv + livetv all the time |
| [18:13:00] | Gumby: | nothing like pausing tv to go take a piss |
| [18:13:00] | klpt: | I still use my TV to watch the news and whatnot – things that aren't worth PVRing |
| [18:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | Heh |
| [18:13:00] | radiatorbp: | Howabout when you want to see the evening news? |
| [18:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't |
| [18:13:00] | radiatorbp: | Well i dont have a tv. |
| [18:13:00] | juski: | I don't watch Tv news.. it's too biased |
| [18:13:00] | radiatorbp: | Depend where you live lol ;) |
| [18:13:00] | klpt: | it's not hard to see that bias and hear only the facts |
| [18:14:00] | radiatorbp: | I think that using a pvr eliminates the need for a tv. |
| [18:15:00] | klpt: | I use a TV to watch my mythfrontend – it's a lot nicer than sitting at a computer monitor |
| [18:15:00] | radiatorbp: | that is a huge point for people who dont have a tv, only a pojector for example like me |
| [18:15:00] | radiatorbp: | I would never watch anything on a monitor. (i work 24h infront of a monitor... tv no thanks...) |
| [18:16:00] | juski: | I can't remember the last time I thought "oo it's almost 8pm.. better sit down & get ready to watch the show" |
| [18:16:00] | xris: | juski: I do all the time. |
| [18:16:00] | ** GreyFoxx watches intently as another transcode finishes ** | |
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| [18:16:00] | juski: | I think we can all agree to disagree on this issue then |
| [18:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | Of course, everyones habbits will differ |
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| [18:17:00] | radiatorbp: | i allways get that warm fuzzy feeling when we watch livetv. |
| [18:17:00] | radiatorbp: | its so oldschool |
| [18:17:00] | klpt: | in my house, I'm the only one who's gone through the effort to learn to use myth |
| [18:17:00] | klpt: | it's rather sad |
| [18:18:00] | klpt: | consideirng how nice the setup is and how much effort I've put in to making it *perfect* |
| [18:18:00] | radiatorbp: | get a remote, and throgh out all the others. |
| [18:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | klpt: My 17month old can navigate from the main menu through mythvideo to launch baby einstein. And my GF uses it all the time. She's the only one who uses mythmusic in our house heh |
| [18:18:00] | radiatorbp: | mess up the tuning on the tv sets. |
| [18:18:00] | juski: | hey how's this for a question from a customer? "how much does your DVR weigh?".... "and when the hard drive is full.. how much does it weigh then?" |
| [18:18:00] | klpt: | *doh* |
| [18:18:00] | radiatorbp: | ;) |
| [18:18:00] | klpt: | GreyFoxx – your family must not be as technophobic as mine |
| [18:19:00] | radiatorbp: | you mean legaly? |
| [18:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://pics.phaze.org/?album=albums//2005/10- . . . 774.JPG& – I got her addicted young |
| [18:19:00] | klpt: | nice! |
| [18:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | My kid is obsessed with anything electronic I have |
| [18:19:00] | radiatorbp: | wife too |
| [18:19:00] | juski: | that's a bad sign, GreyFoxx ;) |
| [18:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [18:19:00] | radiatorbp: | no more need to buy necklaces for xmas any more. |
| [18:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | I want her to be a geek like me :) |
| [18:20:00] | radiatorbp: | I think everyone can be a geek as long as they are introduced to electronics the right way. |
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| [18:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | It freaked me out the first time I saw her grab the remote and launch her shows. Ifigured it was dumb luck. But she does it consistantly |
| [18:20:00] | klpt: | heh, nice |
| [18:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | can't talk, but can use myth heh |
| [18:20:00] | radiatorbp: | my wife never used a video before we met, and now she installs debian easyli. |
| [18:21:00] | juski: | that's surely a great testament to how good mythtv is :D |
| [18:21:00] | klpt: | I can't get anyone in my house to figure out how to navigate the menus |
| [18:21:00] | klpt: | it's pathetic |
| [18:21:00] | klpt: | even with a remote, with arrow keys |
| [18:21:00] | klpt: | and labeled ok and exit buttons |
| [18:21:00] | klpt: | I made a little guide on how to launch and program up new recordings, and it's taped to the lamp next to the sofa |
| [18:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | My GF wont watch a show that isn't on the pvr now. She gets cranky if we can't jump throught he commercials or pause it |
| [18:22:00] | juski: | my inlaws don't even know how to select different AV channels on their TV to watch a DVD |
| [18:22:00] | klpt: | OMG, I know! |
| [18:22:00] | radiatorbp: | what? |
| [18:22:00] | klpt: | juski – "How do I select the VCR?" |
| [18:22:00] | juski: | a friend of my wife was round the other day.. saw mythtv and asked where she could buy it |
| [18:22:00] | klpt: | I also love it when they can't figure out that they're not controling the TV with their multi-device remote |
| [18:23:00] | radiatorbp: | if you show them what additional bennefits the system has, they will learn to use it. |
| [18:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | juski: Hehe I've installed 22 different myth setups in the last 2 years because of people who can seen mine :) |
| [18:23:00] | klpt: | or that they're still controlling the TV, and start pressing buttons and wonder why they aren't moving things around on screen |
| [18:23:00] | radiatorbp: | you just have to find out what will get them hooked. |
| [18:23:00] | juski: | heh... we've got some customers who have a PTZ camera, recording to hard disk.. when they play the recorded images back they wonder why they can't reposition the camera |
| [18:23:00] | klpt: | They love the system, but they keep calling me up away from my compy to turn things on for them |
| [18:24:00] | radiatorbp: | crap camera. |
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| [18:24:00] | juski: | no, radioatorhp.,. they wanna move the camera aroound as they play back images recorded from it |
| [18:24:00] | juski: | ermm... |
| [18:24:00] | juski: | lol |
| [18:24:00] | radiatorbp: | yeah thats what i thought to. |
| [18:25:00] | radiatorbp: | just joking there lol. |
| [18:25:00] | klpt: | GreyFoxx – what UI do you use for myth? |
| [18:25:00] | juski: | also had some classic calls where they think 'digital' means we can zoom into a car number plate half a mile away, de-pixellate it and read it |
| [18:25:00] | klpt: | http://pics.phaze.org/?album=albums//2005/08- . . . 474.JPG& |
| [18:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hahah I love how MS Word constantly wants me to respell "cheque" |
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| [18:25:00] | radiatorbp: | Jack Bauer |
| [18:26:00] | juski: | good ole Joe Public eh... |
| [18:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | klpt: My own. I used Blue for a long time but hacked up mine own a while back: http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/theme/ |
| [18:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | I got the OK from the project Mayhem guys to use anything I wanted from theirs |
| [18:27:00] | radiatorbp: | Well on another note, a friend of mine asked me if you can rewind back 2 years on mythtv, becase there was a show he missed. |
| [18:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | After the MythUI stuff comes in I'll finished it and offer it up for others who are intersted |
| [18:27:00] | juski: | GreyFoxx... I was just thinking about that the other day |
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| [18:27:00] | ** juski <hearts> Project Mayhem ** | |
| [18:27:00] | radiatorbp: | Hey fox! Exacly! |
| [18:27:00] | klpt: | Is there any documentation on how mythui is going to work? I'm rather interested in making y own theme |
| [18:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | klpt: Nothing I've seen. |
| [18:28:00] | radiatorbp: | I started porting it a few weeks ago, but stopped as soon as I saw MythUI |
| [18:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | I should say MythUI + Theme improvements , not jus tmythui |
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| [18:28:00] | klpt: | btw, where can I look at this project mayhem? |
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| [18:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | radiatorbp: I stopped when some of the things I wanted to do just are not available and I didn't wanna add them since I know Isaac is going to be changing a lot of things with mythui |
| [18:29:00] | radiatorbp: | yeah.. cant wait to see any new features. |
| [18:29:00] | klpt: | what kinds of things are in store for .19? anything noteworthY? |
| [18:30:00] | klpt: | like, what exactly is mythui going to do for theming? |
| [18:30:00] | radiatorbp: | lots and lots on improvement in the DVB section. |
| [18:30:00] | radiatorbp: | SVN is a massive forestep. |
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| [18:30:00] | klpt: | yeah, I compile a new svn every few days |
| [18:30:00] | juski: | I think Project Mayhem has a homepage.. though I could be wrong |
| [18:30:00] | radiatorbp: | and programme based livetv! |
| [18:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | klpt: The PM mainpaid is : http://www.chokemaniac.net/ |
| [18:30:00] | klpt: | ah |
| [18:30:00] | klpt: | thanks |
| [18:31:00] | klpt: | wow, that looks sweet |
| [18:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | I wish I had a fraction of the talent of some of those graphic+ui designers |
| [18:31:00] | juski: | am I right in thinking that the gui is gonna be based on opengl textures in future? |
| [18:31:00] | klpt: | yeah... that's amazing |
| [18:31:00] | ** klpt goes off to put it on avalaunch ** | |
| [18:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | juski: Yes, with software fallbacks I believe |
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| [18:32:00] | juski: | heh.. for those of us who're GPU challenged |
| [18:33:00] | radiatorbp: | speaking of xbox... my wife got introduced to this whole thing using my xbox media center... |
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| [18:33:00] | radiatorbp: | stepping forward to mythtv was a breeze. |
| [18:34:00] | radiatorbp: | gotto go now. bye |
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| [18:35:00] | Hoxzer: | Eh |
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| [18:35:00] | Hoxzer: | when I try watch tv it says "Could not connect to the record server" |
| [18:35:00] | Hoxzer: | what should I do |
| [18:36:00] | juski: | is the backend still running? |
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| [18:58:00] | juski: | well... time to go home .. laters, everybody |
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| [19:10:00] | Hoxzer: | how can I run mythtv setup program? |
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| [19:14:00] | Hoxzer: | god damn :D |
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| [19:15:00] | updatelee: | mythtv-setup |
| [19:15:00] | xris: | Hoxzer: type mythtv-setup and press enter? |
| [19:16:00] | Hoxzer: | ok thx |
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| [19:22:00] | KD-Misafir678: | slmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmm |
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| [19:27:00] | malaTG: | Hi everyone! |
| [19:29:00] | malaTG: | A question, is it hard to upgrade from Axels mythtv distribution to the svn and does the svn work for everyday use? |
| [19:30:00] | deego: | malaTG: what is "Axels"? newbie here |
| [19:30:00] | deego: | and svn? |
| [19:31:00] | malaTG: | Axels is the compiled version for fedora |
| [19:31:00] | kormoc: | malaTG, depends on your knowledge level more then anything else |
| [19:31:00] | kormoc: | malaTG, and as for ready for everday use? lots of people use it, but it does break randomly in odd ways at times |
| [19:32:00] | deego: | ah, and svn == bleeding edge, ok |
| [19:32:00] | malaTG: | ok because I've used mythtv for a while now and I would like to contribute but I also want to use it "normally" |
| [19:33:00] | malaTG: | a would say that my linux skills are fairly good, used linux for 3–4 years now |
| [19:34:00] | malaTG: | Is ther any guide or instruction on how to upgrade to svn |
| [19:34:00] | malaTG: | ? |
| [19:37:00] | kormoc: | malaTG, not really, you just uninstall your version, checkout the svn code, compile it and run it |
| [19:38:00] | malaTG: | does all my settings go to hell? |
| [19:39:00] | updatelee: | svn isnt working so great for me on dishnet |
| [19:39:00] | updatelee: | haveing trouble tuning into station, haveto try two three times |
| [19:40:00] | malaTG: | ok...... |
| [19:40:00] | updatelee: | you on dishnet as well ? it might work better/worse on other sat's I dont know |
| [19:40:00] | malaTG: | no Im from sweden |
| [19:41:00] | malaTG: | don't use sat I use cable |
| [19:42:00] | kormoc: | malaTG, setting are preserved in the database |
| [19:42:00] | updatelee: | worth a try then might work good for you. |
| [19:42:00] | updatelee: | just backup your mysql db just to be sure then you can play all you want and not loose your settings. |
| [19:43:00] | malaTG: | ok that's good so if I fail I can always return to Axels dist? |
| [19:43:00] | kormoc: | actually not |
| [19:43:00] | kormoc: | when you use the svn release, it updates the database schema |
| [19:43:00] | updatelee: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-22.html#ss22.5 |
| [19:43:00] | malaTG: | ok |
| [19:43:00] | kormoc: | you'd need to backup the current db before you try the svn so you can restore back to the database layout .18.1 expects |
| [19:44:00] | updatelee: | thats why you take a backup of your db, so you can go back :) |
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| [19:46:00] | Hoxzer: | strange |
| [19:46:00] | Hoxzer: | when I try to run mythtv it just gives a black screen :D |
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| [20:04:00] | Beirdo: | BLAH |
| [20:04:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | heya, kormoc |
| [20:05:00] | kormoc: | Mornin' Beirdo. |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | not quite |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:05:00] | kormoc: | hehe, so how goes it? |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | so I get to relax for almost an hour, then train another bunch of cow-workers |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | not too bad |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | got ring, will travel |
| [20:05:00] | kormoc: | nice :) |
| [20:06:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: cow-workers? |
| [20:06:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: where'd ya see the bit on the in kernel tuner module? |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | mooo! |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | all coworkers are cow-workers |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | especially in these veal-fattening pens we call cubicles |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | MOOO! |
| [20:07:00] | Cardoe: | Need to look at what kernel options enable the in kernel tuner module. |
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| [20:07:00] | Beirdo: | and the chiropractor confirmed what I already knew. |
| [20:07:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, I read it awhile ago on the ivtv list, there was no ivtv tuner module until the 150/500 came out, because they were using the kernel one, so they made theirs to figure out what changes needed to be made and the plan was to port them to the kernel tuner.ko and remove the ivtv one. |
| [20:07:00] | Beirdo: | my neck is a bit fuxored |
| [20:07:00] | kormoc: | ouchies |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | what were the words she used? |
| [20:08:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, to get the intree tuner module it's... |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | "your neck definitely has a limited range of motion" |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:08:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: so pvr250/350 can use the ivtv one |
| [20:08:00] | Cardoe: | it's no diff |
| [20:10:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, I think the issue is they are not testing it on them tho, so it might randomly break on the 250/350/179's while working on the 150/500's |
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| [20:10:00] | Cardoe: | cause basically I can add a USE flag. |
| [20:10:00] | Cardoe: | pvr250–350 |
| [20:11:00] | Cardoe: | which would now require your kernel to provide the tuner module |
| [20:11:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [20:11:00] | kormoc: | the options requried are |
| [20:12:00] | kormoc: | CONFIG_VIDE_DEV and CONFIG_VIDEO_BT848 |
| [20:12:00] | kormoc: | or another one of the drivers that require the tuner. |
| [20:12:00] | kormoc: | sadly you can't just compile the tuner. |
| [20:12:00] | Cardoe: | yeah |
| [20:12:00] | Cardoe: | well BT848 is going to be part of the defaults for the install guide |
| [20:12:00] | Cardoe: | so its ok |
| [20:13:00] | Cardoe: | And I'm going to write a Gentoo specific patch to MythTV |
| [20:13:00] | Cardoe: | That'll set the default settings for you. |
| [20:14:00] | kormoc: | coolness |
| [20:16:00] | Cardoe: | so hopefully we'll limit stupidity a little bit |
| [20:16:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [20:16:00] | NightBird: | hahahaha |
| [20:16:00] | NightBird: | every time you try to limit stupidity, they build a better idiot |
| [20:17:00] | Cardoe: | yes I know. |
| [20:17:00] | Cardoe: | but then I can say go back and read the guide |
| [20:17:00] | Cardoe: | and stop bothering me |
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| [20:17:00] | NightBird: | heheheh |
| [20:17:00] | Beirdo: | of course you know, you DO do Gentoo stuff and get to hear from the cream of the idiot crop at times |
| [20:18:00] | ** roger55 wonders what that might mean ** | |
| [20:18:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: anytime you let the user touch the process a little bit. |
| [20:18:00] | cassepieds: | hi, i am one of the better idiots and want to know how to get a working pvr350 under gentoo-amd64 |
| [20:18:00] | Cardoe: | there's going to be more problems. |
| [20:18:00] | NightBird: | heh |
| [20:18:00] | Beirdo: | aye |
| [20:18:00] | Cardoe: | cassepieds: emerge ivtv |
| [20:18:00] | Beirdo: | unless they are smart |
| [20:18:00] | Cardoe: | modprobe ivtv |
| [20:19:00] | Beirdo: | but if they were smart, they wouldn't be "users" |
| [20:19:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
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| [20:19:00] | cassepieds: | i dit it but it worked only once and ten never again |
| [20:19:00] | Beirdo: | then they'd be "admins" |
| [20:19:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:20:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: the problem is Gentoo gets first timers that are people that always want to get hands on |
| [20:20:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [20:20:00] | Beirdo: | man man |
| [20:20:00] | kormoc: | cassepieds, and what errors did you get? |
| [20:20:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:20:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: and they're the people that really should use Ubuntu or something first. |
| [20:20:00] | kormoc: | cassepieds, did you add it to your /etc/modules.d/kernel-2.x file to autoload on reboot? |
| [20:20:00] | Cardoe: | cassepieds: what's the error? |
| [20:20:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:20:00] | cassepieds: | just noise – no picture |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | should use LFS |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | learn the hard way |
| [20:21:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 |
| [20:21:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: heh |
| [20:21:00] | Cardoe: | I'm one of those people. |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | emerge is too easy |
| [20:21:00] | Cardoe: | If the choice is automated |
| [20:21:00] | Cardoe: | or manual |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | learn to compile and configure by hand :) |
| [20:21:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, is 2.6 the default now? |
| [20:21:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: whatever. |
| [20:21:00] | Cardoe: | you forgot "autoload" |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | sure, writing ebuilds ain't easy :) |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | but USING em sure is |
| [20:22:00] | p0rkmaster: | Can someone point me to some info on how to remap the keys on a ATI Remote Wonder? I'd like to know why the default map didn't include a key mapped to 'esc'?!?! |
| [20:22:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, ooh, oops :P |
| [20:22:00] | Cardoe: | cassepieds: so.. dmesg output? |
| [20:22:00] | Cardoe: | ivtv-detect? |
| [20:22:00] | Cardoe: | what's it say |
| [20:22:00] | Cardoe: | ivtvctl -I |
| [20:22:00] | Cardoe: | what's the first 3 lines say? |
| [20:22:00] | Cardoe: | What locale are you? |
| [20:23:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: here's my favorite. |
| [20:23:00] | Cardoe: | We worked on a way to build modules outside of the kernel tree that meshes well with Portage |
| [20:23:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: some package the makefile didn't use the standard names of stuff. |
| [20:23:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: so inside the ebuild it maps the stuff properly. |
| [20:24:00] | Cardoe: | This guy rants and rants about it not working |
| [20:24:00] | Cardoe: | Gentoo compiles the modules for the kernel linked in /usr/src/linux |
| [20:24:00] | Cardoe: | not the currently running one |
| [20:24:00] | Cardoe: | I thought his link was wrong |
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| [20:24:00] | Cardoe: | he refused to gimme that info |
| [20:24:00] | Cardoe: | insisted something was wrong with the ebuild and upstream. |
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| [20:25:00] | Cardoe: | He finally sat down and rewrote like the whole set of Makefiles |
| [20:25:00] | Cardoe: | I read through them |
| [20:25:00] | Cardoe: | sure enough.. he had a bad /usr/src/linux link |
| [20:25:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:25:00] | Beirdo: | Luser |
| [20:25:00] | Hoxzer: | :D I'm totaly lost |
| [20:25:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [20:26:00] | Ribs: | Hi |
| [20:26:00] | Ribs: | I'm getting awfull sound stuttering on my mythtv box, was wondering if anyone could help? |
| [20:26:00] | NightBird: | does sound work for things other then myth? |
| [20:27:00] | NightBird: | like if you play a song? does that sound stuttered? |
| [20:27:00] | Ribs: | NightBird: No, it appears to be a mythtv problem |
| [20:27:00] | NightBird: | hm... |
| [20:27:00] | Ribs: | xine seems to work great with dvds |
| [20:27:00] | Cardoe: | Ribs: hdparm -tT /dev/hdX |
| [20:27:00] | NightBird: | ok, I'm out of ideas then |
| [20:27:00] | NightBird: | :P |
| [20:28:00] | Cardoe: | cassepieds: I can't help you if you don't provide me with some info |
| [20:28:00] | Ribs: | /dev/hda: |
| [20:28:00] | Ribs: | Timing cached reads: 408 MB in 2.00 seconds = 203.62 MB/sec |
| [20:28:00] | Ribs: | Timing buffered disk reads: 110 MB in 3.00 seconds = 36.61 MB/sec |
| [20:28:00] | Ribs: | The problem only started recently, could it be caused by poor reception? |
| [20:28:00] | Ribs: | It's odd, the sound will stutter, and the video will seem to speed up or slow down to match it |
| [20:29:00] | Ribs: | top never shows the cpu above about 80%, which is what I would expect for this system |
| [20:29:00] | cassepieds: | cardoe, i can post a ivtvctl -a but the others wont be happy – can we talk separate? |
| [20:29:00] | Cardoe: | what kind of system |
| [20:29:00] | Ribs: | Cardoe: It's based on a SP13000 mini itx board. |
| [20:29:00] | Ribs: | So a 1.3ghz 686 |
| [20:30:00] | Cardoe: | cassepieds: I wanted ivtvctl -I and only the first 3 lines |
| [20:30:00] | Cardoe: | cassepieds: any errors in dmesg? |
| [20:30:00] | kormoc: | cassepieds, see topic, specifically the 'Use http://pastebin.ca/' part |
| [20:30:00] | Cardoe: | cassepieds: does ivtv-detect show the card properly. |
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| [20:30:00] | Cardoe: | cassepieds: what part of the world are you in? |
| [20:30:00] | Cardoe: | which version of ivtv do you have? |
| [20:31:00] | roger55: | Ribs, what capture card are you using? |
| [20:31:00] | roger55: | Ribs, digital or analogue? |
| [20:31:00] | cassepieds: | check SAA7115 input signal |
| [20:31:00] | cassepieds: | ioctl: VIDEO_STATUS = Bad |
| [20:31:00] | cassepieds: | SAA7115 reg[STATUS#1 – 0x1E] = c8 |
| [20:31:00] | cassepieds: | i am in europe (luxembourg) |
| [20:32:00] | Ribs: | roger55: Analogue. A PVR-250 |
| [20:32:00] | Ribs: | roger55: I'm downgrading to ivtv 0.2.x now to see if that helps |
| [20:34:00] | Cardoe: | cassepieds: which ivtv version? |
| [20:34:00] | cassepieds: | ivtv-detect: command not found |
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| [20:35:00] | cassepieds: | Latest version installed: 0.2.0_rc3-r5 |
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| [20:36:00] | Cardoe: | cassepieds: get 0.4.0-r2 |
| [20:36:00] | roger55: | Ribs, that one does hardware encoding. I was wondering if you had set the capture resolution too high or something. |
| [20:38:00] | Ribs: | roger55: Not sure, have it as 720x576 in all the recording profiles. This is a PAL system. |
| [20:38:00] | Ribs: | I thought that was correct? |
| [20:38:00] | roger55: | Ribs, I have no idea, I have a normal analogue card with an epia m10000 and I need to set the capture lower than that. |
| [20:39:00] | Ribs: | roger55: The funny thing is, it *used* to work great. It only broke when I moved the box to another location and had to re-tune it |
| [20:39:00] | Ribs: | if I play old recordings, they are fine |
| [20:39:00] | roger55: | what does re-tune mean? |
| [20:39:00] | Ribs: | well, in the UK, there are different frequencies for channels in different areas of the country |
| [20:40:00] | Ribs: | so I have to change those frequencies if I move the box a big distance, like I did recently |
| [20:40:00] | Hoxzer: | :D |
| [20:40:00] | Hoxzer: | can somebody tell me from hand to hand what should I do to get mythtv work |
| [20:41:00] | Cardoe: | Hoxzer: how if no one knows the problem? |
| [20:41:00] | roger55: | Ribs, ah then I might be on the wrong track all along. |
| [20:41:00] | Ribs: | Well, ivtv downgrade seems to have helped a little |
| [20:41:00] | Ribs: | BBC1 is now behaving, but Channel 4 isn't :/ |
| [20:41:00] | Ribs: | It seems the video is moving too quickly for the sound |
| [20:42:00] | Hoxzer: | Cardoe: the problem is I really dunno what to do |
| [20:42:00] | Ribs: | which is just.... strange |
| [20:42:00] | Hoxzer: | I have 1 analog and 1 digital DVB-C card |
| [20:42:00] | Hoxzer: | and seems like I have to somehow manually configure my channels |
| [20:44:00] | cassepieds: | cardoe, thanks cul8er |
| [20:45:00] | Hoxzer: | 2005-10–15 05:42:00.469 DVB#0 ERROR – Unable to find channel in database. |
| [20:45:00] | Hoxzer: | 2005-10–15 05:42:00.470 DVB#0 ERROR – Failed to get channel options for channel 3. |
| [20:45:00] | Cardoe: | cassepieds: did ivtv 0.4.0-r2 work? |
| [20:47:00] | cassepieds: | cardoe, i have an amd64 and this ist masked – so it takes some time .... |
| [20:47:00] | Cardoe: | ? |
| [20:47:00] | Cardoe: | re-emerge --sync in like 30 min |
| [20:48:00] | cassepieds: | i am using gentoo and masked means that this emerge is not tested for this architecture |
| [20:48:00] | Cardoe: | you said isn't |
| [20:48:00] | Cardoe: | And I'm well aware of what Gentoo is |
| [20:48:00] | Cardoe: | thx |
| [20:50:00] | cassepieds: | cardoe, shure, sorry i would not insult you |
| [20:50:00] | tv_: | hi |
| [20:51:00] | Cardoe: | not saying you are |
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| [20:51:00] | tv_ is now known as teevee | |
| [20:51:00] | Cardoe: | cassepieds: either edit the ebuild directly |
| [20:51:00] | Cardoe: | or wait 30 min |
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| [20:52:00] | Cardoe: | and re-emerge --sync |
| [20:52:00] | cassepieds: | cardoe, i will wait and konfigure my keyboard properly in the meantime ;-) |
| [20:53:00] | teevee: | is there a way to myth to record its scheduled recordings with an extra minute or two before and after? |
| [20:53:00] | Krazylegz: | teevee: Yes. |
| [20:54:00] | teevee: | :) |
| [20:55:00] | teevee: | is it a named feature i can search for in the docs? |
| [20:55:00] | teevee: | i don't know what it's called |
| [20:55:00] | Krazylegz: | Edit the recording and go to scheduling options. |
| [20:58:00] | teevee: | is that under Manage Recordings? |
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| [20:59:00] | teevee: | nevermind i think i found it |
| [21:00:00] | teevee: | wish i could do that from the program menu while watching tv |
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| [21:11:00] | Ribs: | okay, this is really strange. Only one channel is stuttering now |
| [21:12:00] | Ribs: | for some reason, it appears the video is running too quickly |
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| [21:25:00] | Hoxzer: | somebody here has ubuntu? |
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| [21:27:00] | Ribs: | Hoxzer: Mythtv specific problem, or Ubuntu problem? |
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| [21:32:00] | Hoxzer: | Ribs: I'm trying to install mythtv to ubuntu, but seems like I don't really know what to do |
| [21:32:00] | teevee: | is there some kind of global setting for making all recordings start two minutes early and end two minutes late? |
| [21:32:00] | Hoxzer: | I mean I can install it with synapic but I don't think im configuring it right |
| [21:34:00] | xris: | fyi for those who are interested, pics of Jarod's new daughter: http://homepage.mac.com/jarodwilson/PhotoAlbum11.html |
| [21:34:00] | Krazylegz: | teevee: Yes. |
| [21:34:00] | Krazylegz: | teevee: Setup->TV Settings->General-> first page. |
| [21:40:00] | Ribs: | Hoxzer: Does apt-get "install mythtv" not work? |
| [21:40:00] | Ribs: | erm |
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| [21:40:00] | Ribs: | "apt-get install mythtv", rather |
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| [21:41:00] | Hoxzer: | Hoxzer I mean I can install it with synapic but I don't think im configuring it right |
| [21:41:00] | Hoxzer: | I said that |
| [21:42:00] | Hoxzer: | problem is configuring |
| [21:42:00] | Hoxzer: | maybe I need to install IVTV first |
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| [21:57:00] | Cagochi: | nuvexport doesn't show any progress when I convert to DVD... but TOP says I'm using 98% for mythtranscode.... any ideas? I |
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| [22:04:00] | teevee: | what does "begin transcoding" mean under job options? |
| [22:05:00] | teevee: | i started it but it didn't say anything |
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| [22:10:00] | DCGrendel: | how safe is it to force-kill mysqld? |
| [22:11:00] | Cagochi: | DCGrendel... how many connected users? |
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| [22:12:00] | DCGrendel: | uhm, right now, none, i killed all the clients |
| [22:12:00] | DCGrendel: | including apache and mythtv |
| [22:13:00] | DCGrendel: | but i can't get it to die with the init.d script, and i'm pretty sure it was why my myth box stopped working yesterday |
| [22:14:00] | DCGrendel: | i killed it, hopefully nothing is corrupt :/ |
| [22:16:00] | DCGrendel: | oh crud, i see the problem now |
| [22:16:00] | DCGrendel: | no space left on / |
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| [22:28:00] | bdmaglin: | [14:16] <DCGrendel> no space left on / -> good reason to have lots of partitions |
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| [23:22:00] | FunkyELF: | PaulWay, what's up? |
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| [23:24:00] | FunkyELF: | hey guys...I got a question about MythWeb |
| [23:24:00] | FunkyELF: | When I click on the top button..."Myth Video on the Web"...I get this error... |
| [23:24:00] | FunkyELF: | Fatal Error at /var/www/localhost/htdocs/mythweb/video.php, line 27: |
| [23:24:00] | FunkyELF: | SQL Error: Table 'mythconverg.videocategory' doesn't exist |
| [23:25:00] | FunkyELF: | do I need mythvideo installed for that? |
| [23:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yes |
| [23:25:00] | FunkyELF: | okay...2nd question.... |
| [23:26:00] | FunkyELF: | when I go to Recorded programs and click on a program... |
| [23:26:00] | FunkyELF: | The requested URL /mythweb/video_dir/1073_20051014003000_20051014010000.nuv was not found on this server. |
| [23:27:00] | FunkyELF: | what is up with that?...it has a picture from it, all the information seems correct... |
| [23:27:00] | FunkyELF: | what is the supposed to do if it were working? |
| [23:27:00] | FunkyELF: | ...download the .nuv file? |
| [23:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [23:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | It would download/play in your configured player |
| [23:28:00] | FunkyELF: | GreyFoxx, does your's do that? |
| [23:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | Do what ? Give that error ?> |
| [23:28:00] | FunkyELF: | no...download the file? |
| [23:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | It would yes. Ask me if I wanted to download it or open it (in my configured player) |
| [23:29:00] | FunkyELF: | do you want to download it or open it? |
| [23:30:00] | FunkyELF: | should I create a symbolic link /var/www/localhost/htdocs/mythweb/video_dir and point it to /mnt/store which is where I have my recordings? |
| [23:30:00] | FunkyELF: | ...is that how your's works? |
| [23:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you want it to work yes |
| [23:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [23:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | well no |
| [23:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | mine is and nfs mount of the mythtv recordings directory |
| [23:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | but if you are running mythweb on the backend then yes a symlink would be fine |
| [23:31:00] | FunkyELF: | okay....that is the standard way to do it? |
| [23:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yes |
| [23:31:00] | FunkyELF: | I am thinking I went overkill on my system. I was recording 2 things at a time yesterday and it was using 0.5% of my CPU. When I was recording 1 thing and watching it at the same time it was taking 10% and when I was recording 2 things and watching them both (using picture in picture) it was using %14 of the CPU |
| [23:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [23:32:00] | FunkyELF: | ...so I might as well run mythweb off of there...and a couple of game servers lol |
| [23:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you have hardware based compression, or dvb/hdtv then recording takes basically no cpu :) |
| [23:32:00] | NightMonkey: | FunkyELF: When watching your shows via MythWeb, make sure that your Apache can handle >2GB files (if your files are bigger than 2 GB). |
| [23:33:00] | FunkyELF: | GreyFoxx, yeah...I noticed that which is great....so I can add 2 more PVR 500's for a total of 6 tuners |
| [23:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you need that many, then I would imagine so :) |
| [23:33:00] | FunkyELF: | I wonder what percent the disks are running at...wonder if they can keep up |
| [23:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | sure they can unless you are capture all 6 at the same time, full bitrate and playing them back at the same time |
| [23:34:00] | FunkyELF: | Is there a way to get the .nuv files playable on a windows machine? |
| [23:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | FunkyELF: What kind fo capture card ? |
| [23:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | 500's ? |
| [23:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | then they are just mpeg files with a .nuv filename |
| [23:35:00] | FunkyELF: | GreyFoxx, yeah, I have 1 x Hauppauge 500MCE |
| [23:35:00] | FunkyELF: | GreyFoxx, well...someone was saying that they were wrapped in a container...and I need a player that knows how to handle that |
| [23:35:00] | PatrickDK: | funky only for v4l ones nad stuff |
| [23:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | FunkyELF: That applies to the software based cards |
| [23:35:00] | PatrickDK: | not for the pvr-?50 cards |
| [23:36:00] | PatrickDK: | or the pvr-500 |
| [23:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | the pvr cards, dvb etc are straight mpeg2 |
| [23:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | well, mpeg2. Could be TS/PS if you have dvb. But still mpeg2 |
| [23:38:00] | FunkyELF: | hrm...when I click on it, it wants to download it instead of stream it |
| [23:38:00] | FunkyELF: | ...even if I click on open with... it will download the whole thing before opening it with the program that I choose |
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| [23:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | the browser probably doesn't understand what type of file it is. you might have to setup a mimetype in apache for it. |
| [23:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | I never play them that way so I've never really looked into it |
| [23:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | if I'm stuck watching on a windows box I would just do it over a file share |
| [23:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | if I'm local that is |
| [23:41:00] | FunkyELF: | GreyFoxx, you can create a samba share on Linux |
| [23:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | I know :) |
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| [23:42:00] | FunkyELF: | okay...in my .htaccess page I saw this... |
| [23:42:00] | FunkyELF: | # If you have nuv files that are actually mpeg2 files, uncomment this |
| [23:42:00] | FunkyELF: | AddType video/mpeg .nuv |
| [23:42:00] | FunkyELF: | so now it opens up Windows Media Player, but now media player downloads the whole thing before playing it |
| [23:43:00] | FunkyELF: | ...is there a type that I can set it to so that it will stream? |
| [23:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | *shrug* |
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| [23:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | ah I said. I don't play any of them that way to have bothered to really look into it |
| [23:44:00] | FunkyELF: | GreyFoxx, is that I did in my .htaccess setting up the mime type? |
| [23:44:00] | PatrickDK: | funkyelf, try recording as a TS stream instead of PS |
| [23:44:00] | FunkyELF: | what is TS and PS? |
| [23:44:00] | PatrickDK: | TS=transport stream |
| [23:44:00] | PatrickDK: | PS==program stream |
| [23:45:00] | PatrickDK: | TS was made for streaming video |
| [23:45:00] | PatrickDK: | ps was made for recorded video |
| [23:45:00] | PatrickDK: | basically |
| [23:45:00] | FunkyELF: | PatrickDK, so it has to do with the way that I recorded it and not the mime type that it is set up as? |
| [23:45:00] | PatrickDK: | funky, well, you need the mime type |
| [23:45:00] | PatrickDK: | but wmp might be saying it's a PS stream |
| [23:45:00] | PatrickDK: | so it download it all |
| [23:46:00] | PatrickDK: | where as with a TS stream, it might actually streamit |
| [23:46:00] | FunkyELF: | PatrickDK, what is the mime type for a streaming one? |
| [23:46:00] | PatrickDK: | though, I'm not saying wmp is that smart |
| [23:46:00] | PatrickDK: | dunno, I use video/mpeg |
| [23:46:00] | FunkyELF: | PatrickDK, and where is the option to record it as a TS in MythSetup ? |
| [23:46:00] | PatrickDK: | it's not in mythsetup |
| [23:46:00] | PatrickDK: | it's where you set the kbps you record at |
| [23:47:00] | FunkyELF: | PatrickDK, I put AddType video/mpeg .nuv to my .htaccess page |
| [23:47:00] | FunkyELF: | PatrickDK, and your's streams to windows boxes? |
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| [23:47:00] | PatrickDK: | no |
| [23:48:00] | PatrickDK: | I stream other mpeg files off my webserver |
| [23:48:00] | PatrickDK: | not myth |
| [23:48:00] | gloin: | hey, when I try to watch tv using mythtv, sound is seriously screwed up – it can be scratchy, echo, or time-shifted from the video. Without tweaking mixer settings, sound works fine in kdetv. |
| [23:48:00] | gloin: | oh also |
| [23:49:00] | gloin: | I recorded a show and it didn't have any sound at all |
| [23:49:00] | gloin: | uhh |
| [23:50:00] | gloin: | system is a p4 with a hauppage wintv card, sblive 5.1 soundcard with the little cable going between the tv and soundcards |
| [23:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | a software card ? |
| [23:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | bttv drivers and all ? |
| [23:50:00] | gloin: | GreyFoxx: wha? |
| [23:50:00] | gloin: | double-wha? |
| [23:50:00] | ** gloin hasn't the foggiest what he's being asked here ** | |
| [23:50:00] | FunkyELF: | PatrickDK, do you have a small video file that you know can stream that I can put on my webserver for testing? |
| [23:50:00] | gloin: | can you spell it out for me a bit more please? |
| [23:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | Is it a hardware encoding card (pvr250,150,350,500) or a software framegrabber |
| [23:51:00] | gloin: | GreyFoxx: the tv card then. Let me get specific |
| [23:51:00] | ** gloin looks ** | |
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| [23:52:00] | FunkyELF: | actually...I only seem to be getting 1,000 kbps while downloading the file in the first place which is what it is recorded at actually. Maybe I need to learn how to transcode first then worry about streaming |
| [23:52:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: you'd had better luck asking for lspci :) |
| [23:52:00] | gloin: | GreyFoxx: it is a bt848/878 based card and is using the bttv driver |
| [23:52:00] | gloin: | thanks mchou |
| [23:52:00] | gloin: | =P |
| [23:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | gloin: then it sounds like you don't have your mixer settings done correctly to work with myth. There is a section on it on the mythtv.org docs site |
| [23:53:00] | gloin: | specifically, it's a bt878 |
| [23:53:00] | gloin: | ergh, that says use the alsamixer but nothing in that doc lines up with the alsamixer I see... |
| [23:54:00] | gloin: | also, how can I get the frontend to work a bit more quickly, or at least not try to take up the whole screen even in windowed mode? |
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| [23:55:00] | ** gloin has kicked lilo in the shins! ** | |
| [23:56:00] | gloin: | =P |
| [23:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't use windowed mode other than to turn it on once just to see if the config option worked, so I can't comment on that :) |
| [23:57:00] | mmurphy: | should i stop the backend before updating? |
| [23:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | update myth to a newer version ? |
| [23:57:00] | mmurphy: | ya |
| [23:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yes you should |
| [23:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | It'll likely crash otherwise and shutting down is "cleaner" :) |
| [23:58:00] | mmurphy: | whats the command to stop? |
| [23:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | kill PID |
| [23:59:00] | mmurphy: | how do i find the pid |
| [23:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | you might be able to use your init scriptasssuming you have one |
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