| Thursday, October 13th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | jd86: | i can see whatever i think chan 3 is |
| [00:00:00] | jd86: | lol |
| [00:00:00] | jd86: | i can see the tv guide |
| [00:00:00] | jd86: | and the person advertising stuff |
| [00:00:00] | Juski: | right.. so it's tuned to **something** |
| [00:01:00] | Juski: | that's good.. so now you just have to figure out what's stopping mythtv changing channels |
| [00:02:00] | jd86: | i go to change channels and the little thing shows up on the bottom and doesnt have anything in it |
| [00:02:00] | jd86: | and just goes back to channel 3 or w/e this is |
| [00:02:00] | jd86: | maybe i'm on 2? |
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| [00:03:00] | Juski: | it should say which channel you're on for a little while |
| [00:03:00] | jd86: | hmm |
| [00:03:00] | jd86: | well i dont know whats going on.. |
| [00:04:00] | jd86: | when i go chan up, it says the time but not the channel on the top |
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| [00:04:00] | Juski: | I'm lost from this point.. not had any experience with analogue cards in mythtv |
| [00:04:00] | sphing: | Lightnin: we were way off. |
| [00:05:00] | jd86: | theres a Tuner0 and Tuner 1 |
| [00:05:00] | jd86: | for the choices of which tuner to use, what one do i use? |
| [00:05:00] | jd86: | well this is a pvr150 |
| [00:05:00] | jd86: | the mpeg one |
| [00:05:00] | Juski: | tuner0 would be the best bet I think |
| [00:06:00] | jd86: | well thats whats it is on now.. |
| [00:06:00] | jd86: | i wonder what to do. :( |
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| [00:07:00] | Juski: | why has it picked up 2 tuners? |
| [00:07:00] | Juski: | you DID try the cat /dev/video0 thing before installing mythtv didn't you? |
| [00:07:00] | jd86: | uhh.. |
| [00:08:00] | jd86: | i have a /dev/v4l/video0 and a /dev/video0 both of which splitter splat out random crap when i cat them.. |
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| [00:08:00] | Juski: | yeh well they will |
| [00:09:00] | Juski: | try redirecting em into mplayer |
| [00:09:00] | sphing: | jd86: /dev/video0 is just a symlink no? |
| [00:09:00] | jd86: | h/o |
| [00:09:00] | jd86: | yep |
| [00:09:00] | jd86: | whats v4l/video24? |
| [00:09:00] | sphing: | i believe thats raw signal... not mpeg encoded |
| [00:10:00] | sphing: | jd86: try cat /dev/video0 >> test.mpg |
| [00:10:00] | sphing: | then play test.mpg in mplayer |
| [00:10:00] | jd86: | ok |
| [00:10:00] | sphing: | let it run for a couple of secs |
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| [00:12:00] | jd86: | mplayer crashed |
| [00:12:00] | jd86: | whys it trying to open /dev/3dfx? |
| [00:12:00] | jd86: | it says the selected video out thing is not compatible with this file |
| [00:13:00] | fourcheeze: | jd86: which output driver are you using for mplayer? |
| [00:13:00] | jd86: | default.. what one should i use? |
| [00:13:00] | jd86: | its diner time |
| [00:13:00] | jd86: | if i do -vo x11 it plays |
| [00:13:00] | fourcheeze: | try mplayer -vo x11 ... |
| [00:13:00] | jd86: | and it is the same channel |
| [00:13:00] | jd86: | that was on before |
| [00:13:00] | jd86: | i have to go eat... i'll be back. |
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| [00:20:00] | Juski: | bedtime.. nytol :) |
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| [00:22:00] | jd86: | i'm back |
| [00:22:00] | jd86: | so whats the verdict |
| [00:22:00] | fourcheeze: | guilty |
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| [00:22:00] | jd86: | i mean with my poor mythtv |
| [00:22:00] | jd86: | why cant i change channels |
| [00:24:00] | fourcheeze: | sounds like you only have 1 channel stored |
| [00:24:00] | fourcheeze: | did you add some channels? |
| [00:25:00] | jd86: | wheni go to channel editor, listed there are all of the channels i guess it got from the mythfilldatabase... |
| [00:26:00] | sphing: | can you change with ptune? |
| [00:26:00] | jd86: | whats ptune? |
| [00:27:00] | fourcheeze: | jd86: I don't know how to tune a pvr150 but I assume somewhere it needs to know the channel number that the card knows |
| [00:28:00] | jd86: | well theres an ivtv-tune and if i do ivtv-tune -l it lists channel frequencies for us-cable and i dont know if they're right or what.. |
| [00:30:00] | Krazylegz: | ptune.pl |
| [00:30:00] | jd86: | wheres that? |
| [00:30:00] | jd86: | do i have to emerge (i'm on gentoo) ivtv-ptune ? |
| [00:30:00] | Krazylegz: | You'll have to find it on your system. |
| [00:30:00] | Krazylegz: | It should have come with ivtv, I think. |
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| [00:31:00] | jd86: | and what do i do with it once i have it? |
| [00:31:00] | Krazylegz: | Run it. ./ptune.pl . |
| [00:31:00] | Krazylegz: | It will tell you want to do, then you can see if you can tune other channels. |
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| [00:32:00] | Krazylegz: | If you can, then the problem lies with MythTV. If not, then it lies elsewhere. |
| [00:32:00] | fourcheeze: | * media-tv/ivtv-ptune [ Masked ] |
| [00:32:00] | fourcheeze: | Latest version available: 0.2.0_rc3 |
| [00:32:00] | fourcheeze: | Description: ivtv tuner perl scripts |
| [00:32:00] | fourcheeze: | looks like you need that |
| [00:33:00] | jd86: | :-/ |
| [00:33:00] | jd86: | its going |
| [00:34:00] | jd86: | ivtv-tune doesn't do the same thing? |
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| [00:36:00] | FunkyELF_: | hi kormoc |
| [00:36:00] | kormoc: | mornin' |
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| [00:37:00] | FunkyELF_: | I was trying to follow the gentoo wiki mythtv guide. I got my tuners working using cat, then I emerged mythtv. I'm not sure what I was supposed to run as root and what I was supposed to run as a user. |
| [00:37:00] | FunkyELF_: | When I run mythsetup as root it does one thing, but when I do it as a user it is another thing. |
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| [00:38:00] | jd86: | when i go ptune.pl --list-channels it lists them, what am i supposed to do? |
| [00:38:00] | jd86: | ok |
| [00:39:00] | jd86: | so ptune.pl can change channels.. |
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| [00:39:00] | jd86: | ooh i think it works now for some reason.. |
| [00:39:00] | FunkyELF_: | I am getting that 401 unauthorized error when I run mythfilldatabase |
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| [00:40:00] | jonK: | has your subscription run out? |
| [00:40:00] | FunkyELF_: | ...the guide says Go back and make sure you have have a Zap2It account and that you entered your information correctly during mythsetup. |
| [00:40:00] | FunkyELF_: | jonK, no, I subscribed yesterday |
| [00:40:00] | FunkyELF_: | I can log in with the same username / password that I gave to myth |
| [00:41:00] | jd86: | it takes a tad bit to change channels, that might be annoying :) |
| [00:41:00] | jonK: | jd, for live tv it take a bit? |
| [00:42:00] | Krazylegz: | jd86: I use the browse function or the program guide to change channels, but I know what you mean. |
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| [00:42:00] | jonK: | i stopped watching live tv long ago... so it stopped being an issue |
| [00:42:00] | jd86: | Krazylegz: how do i watch the channel with the guide, i never figured out how to use it to switch channels |
| [00:43:00] | Randall64: | These nice Silverstone cases are expensive. |
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| [00:44:00] | FunkyELF_: | who is supposed to run mythfilldatabase ? root? or a user? |
| [00:44:00] | Krazylegz: | jd86: Just enter the guide, then scroll up or down, and press enter to go to that channel. |
| [00:44:00] | Randall64: | Anyone with access to the database. |
| [00:45:00] | jd86: | Krazylegz: it opens the info and settings for it.. |
| [00:45:00] | FunkyELF_: | right now I can only run that as root. But I am getting a 401 Unauthorized when I try to run it |
| [00:45:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh. |
| [00:45:00] | Krazylegz: | Let me check then. |
| [00:45:00] | jd86: | heh |
| [00:47:00] | Krazylegz: | Spacebar. |
| [00:47:00] | jd86: | i wonder what spacebar is on my remote.. |
| [00:47:00] | Krazylegz: | Which remote? |
| [00:47:00] | gcope: | mythtv built on top of qt? |
| [00:47:00] | jd86: | silver grey hauppague one |
| [00:47:00] | Krazylegz: | OK button. |
| [00:48:00] | DarkBeer: | is there a plugin to allow you to stream mythmusic? looking at a patch on timekiller.org, but looks like it might be older than .18 |
| [00:48:00] | jd86: | whys the guide button not work :( |
| [00:48:00] | Krazylegz: | DarkBeer: You mean internet radio stations? |
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| [00:48:00] | Krazylegz: | jd86: Guide button? |
| [00:48:00] | jd86: | Krazylegz: we must have different configs, because ok opens the info screen |
| [00:48:00] | Krazylegz: | Must be. |
| [00:48:00] | jd86: | Krazylegz: yea below the TV button |
| [00:48:00] | DarkBeer: | Krazylegz, no, mp3s. would like to be able to stream them to work ;) |
| [00:48:00] | red_fox: | DarkBeer, I've heard that somebody is working on streaming internet radio in mythmusic |
| [00:49:00] | Beirdo: | so invest in shoutcast or something |
| [00:49:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [00:49:00] | Krazylegz: | jd86: I'm thinking you have a completely different remote than me. |
| [00:49:00] | Juski: | naughty, naughty, DarkBeer |
| [00:49:00] | Beirdo: | there are already tools for that, DarkBeer |
| [00:49:00] | Krazylegz: | DarkBeer: Setup a Shoutcast server. |
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| [00:49:00] | jd86: | Krazylegz: i think i have the new one |
| [00:49:00] | Juski: | and pay your royalties :) |
| [00:50:00] | DarkBeer: | blah. since mythweb already shows the files, I'd think I should be able to get them to play. otherwise, I don't really see the purpose of listing the music in mythweb? |
| [00:51:00] | Krazylegz: | DarkBeer: Mine lets me download them. |
| [00:51:00] | jd86: | OK is space. |
| [00:51:00] | jd86: | .. |
| [00:51:00] | DarkBeer: | when I click on it, it give me a 404 not found |
| [00:52:00] | Beirdo: | then fix yer config |
| [00:52:00] | jd86: | whats this go button... |
| [00:52:00] | Juski: | and pray your workplace doesn't block ogg/mp3/flac file extensions |
| [00:52:00] | jd86: | oh |
| [00:53:00] | DarkBeer: | Beirdo, apache config? and what other "tools" were you referring to earlier? |
| [00:53:00] | Beirdo: | shoutcast... |
| [00:53:00] | Beirdo: | sheesh |
| [00:53:00] | DarkBeer: | oh.. |
| [00:53:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, fix your mythweb config if it gives you 404 |
| [00:53:00] | DarkBeer: | k |
| [00:53:00] | DarkBeer: | thanks |
| [00:53:00] | Beirdo: | you need a symlink to the dir with the mp3 files in it |
| [00:53:00] | Beirdo: | pretty sure that's somewhere in the docs |
| [00:54:00] | DarkBeer: | I must've been looking at the wrong docs then. thanks again |
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| [00:54:00] | mchou: | Juski: your work does that? |
| [00:54:00] | Beirdo: | hey, not a problem |
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| [00:54:00] | Beirdo: | I'd bitch-slap my coworkers if they tried to block music |
| [00:54:00] | Juski: | oh yeah it does, mchou |
| [00:54:00] | jd86: | ugh nothing will switch to that channel, not play, not ok not go |
| [00:54:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:55:00] | jd86: | or space on the keyboard |
| [00:55:00] | mchou: | Juski: which nazis you work for? :) |
| [00:55:00] | Juski: | blocks zip, exe, all the usual media file extensions |
| [00:55:00] | DarkBeer: | glad I don't work with Juski ;) |
| [00:55:00] | FunkyELF_: | I am getting an error about not being able to connect to the master backend server. Also, when I run /etc/init.d/mythbackend restart I get the following.....start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 5763: No such process [ !! ] |
| [00:55:00] | Beirdo: | block THIS! |
| [00:55:00] | Juski: | but strangely not bz, tar etc :D |
| [00:55:00] | mchou: | goddamn remote..... |
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| [00:56:00] | Beirdo: | OK, time for me to go start scanning pictures |
| [00:56:00] | Beirdo: | I only have 8 films to scan |
| [00:56:00] | Beirdo: | here's hoping I don't fall asleep too quickly |
| [00:56:00] | mchou: | Juski: which nazis you work for? |
| [00:56:00] | Juski: | I can work around it though if I wanna download anything... just ssh into my box at home, download stuff & rename it.. the proxy doesn't check the files.. just the names |
| [00:56:00] | pmowry: | Hi, can anyone help me with a mysqladmin line to remove a program from the recorded table? I used nuvexport to backup a program, then restored it after loading an SVN version that started to use .mpg extensions instead. Now I can't delete it using mythfrontend or mythweb. |
| [00:57:00] | Beirdo: | phpmyadmin is your friend |
| [00:57:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, off to scan pics |
| [00:57:00] | Juski: | lucky they pass two ports thru the firewall.. not the usual suspects, mchou ;) |
| [00:57:00] | Juski: | have fun Beirdo |
| [00:57:00] | pmowry: | Beirdo: Thanks, I'll install it and give it a try. |
| [00:57:00] | FunkyELF_: | What are some common reasons that it can't connect to the server? I ran mythsetup as root and changed the IP's in the first page to 127.0.0.1 .... then when I ran mythfrontend as a user and I changed the IP to 127.0.0.1 it continued on and broght me to a screen where I could go to "Watch TV" |
| [00:58:00] | FunkyELF_: | when I go to watch tv, it gives me an error about not being able to connect to the master backend |
| [00:58:00] | Juski: | I used to work for celestica – they actually had a policy where you couldn't right click on the desktop to change **anything** |
| [00:58:00] | Juski: | FunkyELF_: is this on the same machine? |
| [00:58:00] | FunkyELF_: | Juski, yes |
| [00:59:00] | Juski: | is mythbackend running? |
| [00:59:00] | FunkyELF_: | Juski, I'm not sure... |
| [00:59:00] | FunkyELF_: | myth eric # /etc/init.d/mythbackend status |
| [00:59:00] | FunkyELF_: | * status: started |
| [00:59:00] | FunkyELF_: | myth eric # /etc/init.d/mythbackend stop |
| [00:59:00] | FunkyELF_: | * Stopping MythTV Backend ... |
| [00:59:00] | FunkyELF_: | start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 5763: No such process [ !! ] |
| [00:59:00] | Juski: | that'd do it |
| [01:00:00] | FunkyELF_: | it says it started okay but I guess it didn't |
| [01:00:00] | Juski: | run mythbackend in a terminal session and see what it says |
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| [01:00:00] | Juski: | paste the error (there'll be one) in a pastebin |
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| [01:01:00] | FunkyELF_: | http://pastebin.ca/25352 |
| [01:02:00] | Juski: | FunkyELF_: two things... |
| [01:02:00] | Juski: | 1. your tuner isn't working |
| [01:02:00] | Juski: | 2. the recordings and ringbuffer directories don't exist |
| [01:02:00] | FunkyELF_: | Juski, I was able to capture video using the Cat command |
| [01:03:00] | red_fox: | FunkyELF, it is looking for /dev/v4l/video0, does that exist? |
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| [01:03:00] | red_fox: | if not, you need to run mythsetup and fix it |
| [01:05:00] | pmowry: | Dmn, that was easy. Thanks again for phpMyAdmin =) |
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| [01:12:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Helpful hint – use SSH -D 1080 <your home host> to make a socks5 proxy, then add localhost:1080 to any app that supports it. No more pesky blocking ;). |
| [01:13:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Of course, don't violate your company's policies. :) Only for cafe use. |
| [01:14:00] | Juski: | heheh cheers NightMonkey |
| [01:14:00] | Juski: | ahh port 1080 = blocked |
| [01:14:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Use any port you'd like. |
| [01:15:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: 80 or 8080 probably aren't. |
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| [01:15:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: That's just the "standard" port. |
| [01:15:00] | Juski: | 8080 isn't, but I don't wanna be scanned by a kiddie |
| [01:15:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Oh, wait. Sorry, it only matters if SSH (port 22) is blocked. |
| [01:15:00] | Juski: | saying that I already use vnc |
| [01:16:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Since the proxy only sends data over the net using SSH. In other words, the port exists only locally on your machine. |
| [01:16:00] | Juski: | I don't use port 22 anyway.. I use one free port for ssh and the other for vnc |
| [01:16:00] | Juski: | ahhh |
| [01:16:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: So, any proxy-able apps use "localhost" and port "1080". |
| [01:17:00] | Juski: | on my first day in the job I tried going to www.farnell.com |
| [01:17:00] | Juski: | blocked! |
| [01:17:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: This includes Mozilla, xmms, bmp, and I think even Windows apps can use it. |
| [01:17:00] | NightMonkey: | (if you use cygwin's openssh) |
| [01:17:00] | Juski: | later on I tried to go to www.xilinx.com but mis-typed it to www.xlinx.com.. flesh tones all over the screen |
| [01:18:00] | Juski: | so a proper site was blocked, but not the pr0n lol |
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| [01:18:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: As long as your home IP isn't blocked (and you are running sshd there), you'll be fine. |
| [01:18:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: I use it because I just don't trust any networks but my own ;). |
| [01:18:00] | Juski: | they even block sourceforge ffs |
| [01:18:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: All they see is that I'm really a very strong SSH lover. |
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| [01:19:00] | Juski: | well, they must think I have one of our products at home |
| [01:20:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: It is a pretty powerful tool. You can use it for xchat, gaim, and, if you find one that can't, you can use Dante to "socksify" non-SOCKS apps. |
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| [01:20:00] | Juski: | where I work we make CCTV DVRs.. they might make a good pvr with the right software on there lol |
| [01:20:00] | ** NightMonkey is done with the ssh-proxy pitch ** | |
| [01:21:00] | ** NightMonkey hearts privacy ** | |
| [01:21:00] | ** Juski might just stick with vnc if it's all the same – for the rare occasions it's needed ** | |
| [01:21:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Heh, I use it for vnc. I don't like people sniffing that, either. |
| [01:21:00] | kormoc: | NightMonkey, can't you just port forward proxy port X and have everything use localhost port X as a proxy, socks or otherwise? |
| [01:22:00] | Juski: | you'd have to be pretty determined to sniff what's going on in a vnc connection though |
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| [01:22:00] | NightMonkey: | kormoc: Hmm... I think the app needs to speak SOCKS, tho. IIRC. |
| [01:22:00] | Juski: | especially if you don't know it's a vnc connection |
| [01:22:00] | FunkyELF_: | okay, It looks like I can watch TV through mythfrontend now |
| [01:23:00] | FunkyELF_: | but I can't change channels |
| [01:23:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Never underestimate the enemy... |
| [01:23:00] | FunkyELF_: | do I need to list ptune as the command to change channels? |
| [01:23:00] | Juski: | that's why I'm not an IT professional, NightMonkey |
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| [01:26:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Heck, you're using vnc. That bests lots of MCSE out there by a mile ;). |
| [01:26:00] | _Nero_: | hurm.. help.. Just threw in a new soundcard- the sound works fine, but volume controls no longer work.. |
| [01:27:00] | _Nero_: | nm.. had to change the mixer from PCM to Master |
| [01:27:00] | _Nero_: | working now.. :) |
| [01:27:00] | FunkyELF_: | external channel change command?....do I need to set that as ptune with a Hauppauge PVR-500MCE > |
| [01:27:00] | FunkyELF_: | ? |
| [01:28:00] | Juski: | yeh.. our IT guys still use netmeeting.. and didn't know how to fix someone's workstation when they couldn't log in.. turned out their IP addy had expired lol |
| [01:28:00] | red_fox: | FunkyELF, where is your cable input coming from? |
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| [01:28:00] | FunkyELF_: | red_fox, I don't understand. I plugged the cable from the wall into the card |
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| [01:29:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Paper MCSEs do such a disservice to the really great Windows Admins out there. |
| [01:30:00] | Jazbo: | I'm having the following problem: when a bright object (like a face for example) is against a dark background, the bright object looks a bit green on it left edge and a bit purple on it's right edge. Any suggestions for a fix? |
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| [01:30:00] | Juski: | paper CCNA etc are gonna take the edge off the profession too, I guess |
| [01:30:00] | PatrickDK: | my win2k3 server has a 243day uptime |
| [01:30:00] | red_fox: | FunkyELF, if you are using analog cable, and not a cable box or anything, you shouldn't need to specify anything |
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| [01:30:00] | NightMonkey: | Jazbo: What's your video card setup? |
| [01:30:00] | PatrickDK: | and it's behind a very tight firewall, so security patchs aren't that needed |
| [01:30:00] | Jazbo: | Haupauge PVR-250 |
| [01:31:00] | NightMonkey: | Jazbo: What ivtv version, and what module options? Are you using composite connections, or s-video? |
| [01:31:00] | Juski: | I'm running unpatched XP on this box here behind a smoothwall.. enough for home use I think |
| [01:31:00] | Jazbo: | Using cable tv. Looks fine when I view directly from cable to tv so it's definetly a problem with my mythbox |
| [01:32:00] | Jazbo: | My tv has a pc monitor connection and I'm using that |
| [01:32:00] | Juski: | sounds to me like your PC is driving the TV too hard, Jazbo |
| [01:33:00] | Servo888: | Ok is there any kind cpu power distribution available with transcode? |
| [01:33:00] | Jazbo: | Everything else looks okay for example the text in my irc window here looks perfectly sharp |
| [01:33:00] | Juski: | Jazbo – what does it look like when you play back other media on the machine? say in xine etc? |
| [01:33:00] | NightMonkey: | Jazbo: What does the video look like when you just use the mythbox -> monitor directly? |
| [01:34:00] | Jazbo: | Stuff looks fine in xine |
| [01:34:00] | Jazbo: | I think it has to do with the recording from the pvr250 |
| [01:34:00] | NightMonkey: | Jazbo: What are your module options? |
| [01:34:00] | Jazbo: | ivtvctl -V says version is 0.2.0 |
| [01:35:00] | NightMonkey: | Jazbo: What linux kernel ivtv module options (modules.conf, or similar for your distro)? |
| [01:36:00] | Jazbo: | what should I grep in modules.conf? |
| [01:38:00] | FunkyELF_: | red_fox, when I press up or down, it brings up a blue bar across the bottom but doesn't say it is changing channels |
| [01:39:00] | FunkyELF_: | red_fox, also, when I press 'c' which is supposed to change tuners, it doesn't change tuners |
| [01:39:00] | red_fox: | yeah c doesn't do much for me either |
| [01:39:00] | red_fox: | but the changing channels worked right off |
| [01:39:00] | red_fox: | you could play around with ptune and see if it changes anything |
| [01:40:00] | Jazbo: | Actually I can't find anything about ivtv in my modules.conf file. All I can find is bttv stuff |
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| [01:44:00] | NightMonkey: | Jazbo: What distro are you using? |
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| [01:45:00] | Jazbo: | knoppmyth |
| [01:45:00] | NightMonkey: | Jazbo: What does "lsmod | grep ivtv" give you? |
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| [01:45:00] | Juski: | quick q: is anyone in here using minimyth with transcoded shows (as in mpeg4 transcoded shows)? |
| [01:45:00] | Jazbo: | ivtv 808420 2 |
| [01:45:00] | Jazbo: | i2c_algo_bit 10504 1 ivtv |
| [01:45:00] | Jazbo: | videodev 9600 3 ivtv |
| [01:46:00] | NightMonkey: | Jazbo: OK, so it is getting loaded somewhere. |
| [01:46:00] | Jazbo: | ah so i've got to figure out where it's getting loaded to find out what options it's loaded with huh? |
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| [01:48:00] | NightMonkey: | Jazbo: Yeah. And I don't know what version of ivtv KnoppMyth has – older versions needed explicit module options, while later ones "autoconfig"ed very well. |
| [01:48:00] | CanadaBoy: | can anyone tell me how to find out what driver im using for my pvr350? |
| [01:48:00] | NightMonkey: | CanadaBoy: "lsmod |less". |
| [01:49:00] | Jazbo: | NightMonkey: This sounds to you like a problem with ivtv settings though? |
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| [01:50:00] | CanadaBoy: | NightMonkey: no luck |
| [01:51:00] | CanadaBoy: | any other ideas? |
| [01:51:00] | NightMonkey: | Jazbo: Well, it could be your cable -> mythbox connection, too. But, can't know for sure. |
| [01:52:00] | CanadaBoy: | NightMonkey: command not found |
| [01:53:00] | NightMonkey: | CanadaBoy: What distro are you using? |
| [01:53:00] | CanadaBoy: | fedora core 2 |
| [01:53:00] | NightMonkey: | CanadaBoy: OK, try "lsmod" alone. |
| [01:53:00] | Skaface: | NightMonkey is a person, not a command |
| [01:54:00] | Skaface: | :P |
| [01:54:00] | CanadaBoy: | NightMonkey: nope ... still not found |
| [01:54:00] | NightMonkey: | Skaface: If it was a command, what a strange command it would be :D. |
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| [01:55:00] | Juski: | rm -rf juski |
| [01:55:00] | Juski: | right |
| [01:55:00] | NightMonkey: | Skaface: "Boy, I went out last night, and I just NightMonkeyed all night long. |
| [01:55:00] | NightMonkey: | " |
| [01:55:00] | Juski: | bye y'all |
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| [01:56:00] | CanadaBoy: | anyone else ... fc2 ... try to see what ivtv driver im using? |
| [01:57:00] | NightMonkey: | CanadaBoy: "ivtvctl -V" |
| [01:58:00] | Jazbo: | I can't imagine how lsmod could not work |
| [01:58:00] | CanadaBoy: | lsmod ... |
| [01:58:00] | CanadaBoy: | let me try again |
| [01:59:00] | NightMonkey: | CanadaBoy: How did you install ivtv? |
| [02:03:00] | NightMonkey: | Oh well. |
| [02:03:00] | CanadaBoy: | sec. |
| [02:03:00] | CanadaBoy: | phone |
| [02:04:00] | Jazbo: | NightMonkey: I think I found where the ivtv load parameters are set: /etc/init.d/set_ivtv_params. Any thoughts on what I should be looking for there? |
| [02:08:00] | jd86: | hi Jazbo |
| [02:08:00] | Jazbo: | jd86: yes? |
| [02:08:00] | NightMonkey: | Jazbo: Not specifically. What does "ivtvctl -V" give you? I can then maybe tell you if you need to strip and "modprobe ivtv options=" stuffs. |
| [02:09:00] | NightMonkey: | Jazbo: I'm not a knoppmyth user... |
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| [02:10:00] | Jazbo: | ivtvctl -V |
| [02:10:00] | Jazbo: | ioctl: IVTV_IOC_G_DRIVER_INFO |
| [02:10:00] | Jazbo: | driver info: |
| [02:10:00] | Jazbo: | version = 0x00000200 (0.2.0) |
| [02:10:00] | Jazbo: | comment = rc3j |
| [02:11:00] | CanadaBoy: | ha haha |
| [02:11:00] | CanadaBoy: | need to be su |
| [02:11:00] | Jazbo: | for lsmod? |
| [02:11:00] | CanadaBoy: | yup |
| [02:11:00] | Jazbo: | doh |
| [02:11:00] | CanadaBoy: | ivtv 793188 4 |
| [02:11:00] | CanadaBoy: | what does that mean? |
| [02:13:00] | NightMonkey: | Jazbo: So, all I've got for my ivtv options is: |
| [02:13:00] | NightMonkey: | alias char-major-81 videodev |
| [02:13:00] | NightMonkey: | alias char-major-81–0 ivtv |
| [02:13:00] | NightMonkey: | alias char-major-81–1 ivtv |
| [02:13:00] | NightMonkey: | Jazbo: And all the config happens "automagically". |
| [02:14:00] | NightMonkey: | CanadaBoy: Ok, so ivtv is loading. Do "ivtvctl -V" – what does that say? |
| [02:15:00] | CanadaBoy: | command not found |
| [02:15:00] | NightMonkey: | ... |
| [02:15:00] | NightMonkey: | CanadaBoy: How did you install ivtv? |
| [02:16:00] | CanadaBoy: | im probably using an older version |
| [02:16:00] | Jazbo: | well dinner time |
| [02:16:00] | Jazbo: | tnx NightMonkey |
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| [02:16:00] | NightMonkey: | CanadaBoy: How did you install ivtv? |
| [02:17:00] | CanadaBoy: | install ivtv-firmware |
| [02:17:00] | CanadaBoy: | nothing special |
| [02:18:00] | NightMonkey: | CanadaBoy: Hmm... Don't know ivtv on fc2 – but is there an ivtv-utils package, too? |
| [02:19:00] | NightMonkey: | CanadaBoy: Are you using a guide? |
| [02:19:00] | CanadaBoy: | might be ... let me check ... |
| [02:19:00] | CanadaBoy: | yup :-( |
| [02:19:00] | CanadaBoy: | i just bought a pvr150 to add to the pvr250 ... |
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| [02:20:00] | NightMonkey: | CanadaBoy: You need that package, too, then. "ivtvctl -V" will tell you the module version. |
| [02:20:00] | CanadaBoy: | ok sec. |
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| [02:22:00] | Lightning: | evening |
| [02:22:00] | Lightning: | was at my sister's, her boyfriend has a wintv 250 card. $50 :) |
| [02:27:00] | Gumby: | wintv 250? |
| [02:27:00] | Gumby: | do you mean a pvr250? |
| [02:27:00] | jd86: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815116606 << this card supported? |
| [02:27:00] | CanadaBoy: | NightMonkey: not having too much luck with ivtv-utils |
| [02:27:00] | Lightning: | let me look and verify |
| [02:28:00] | NightMonkey: | CanadaBoy: I don't know ivtv in fc2, sorry. |
| [02:28:00] | Gumby: | does anyone in here know of an app or three that will allow my to en/re code two of my recordings to vcd or dvd? I am wanting two recordings on the same disk. |
| [02:29:00] | Lightning: | yes, wintv-pvr 250. it was stamped wintv on the tuner portion |
| [02:29:00] | CanadaBoy: | NightMonkey: thanks anyways! :P |
| [02:29:00] | Lightning: | looking at a pic of it now |
| [02:30:00] | NightMonkey: | CanadaBoy: Try to find a guide for Fedora. I'm sure many others here can reccomend good ones. |
| [02:30:00] | CanadaBoy: | ya i have a guide ... just doesn't mention adding newer cards ,,, |
| [02:30:00] | CanadaBoy: | i'll have to google ... |
| [02:30:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | the mythtv dead-tree book is out of date regarding fedora |
| [02:31:00] | NightMonkey: | ip_goat_rodeo: "dead-tree book" – there is such a thing? |
| [02:31:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | yes |
| [02:31:00] | NightMonkey: | ip_goat_rodeo: Amazon link? |
| [02:31:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/4861 . . . 4544-4917910 |
| [02:32:00] | Lightning: | assuming a winntv model 32032 is the wintv pvr 250. that is what shows up when i google for it |
| [02:32:00] | NightMonkey: | ip_goat_rodeo: I don't read Japanese... |
| [02:32:00] | CanadaBoy: | NightMonkey: what about this ... if i have the 350 running fine now ... i would obviously need to install new ivtv to use the pvr150, and i just install or do i have touninstall? |
| [02:32:00] | Krazylegz: | I think I'm turning Japanese. |
| [02:32:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | then you probably wouldn't get much out of that book |
| [02:33:00] | NightMonkey: | CanadaBoy: You can just use the ivtv you've got. One module -> many cards. |
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| [02:33:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | the book only covers the previous version of knoppmyth and fc1 and 2 |
| [02:33:00] | CanadaBoy: | NightMonkey: even thought my ivtv driver may be pre pvr150? |
| [02:34:00] | NightMonkey: | CanadaBoy: Oh, well, that's a differnet story. I think only the 0.3 and 0.4 series can begin to handle that, IIRC. |
| [02:34:00] | NightMonkey: | CanadaBoy: So, if you installed ivtv as a yum package, you'll need to use yum to get the version info. |
| [02:35:00] | NightMonkey: | CanadaBoy: Or, find a package with "ivtvctl" in it... |
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| [02:40:00] | CanadaBoy: | i used apt-get |
| [02:40:00] | CanadaBoy: | so i need new ivtv and iirc? |
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| [02:43:00] | CanadaBoy: | dam i don't ever know how to use apt-get to get the version info. |
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| [02:48:00] | mikmorg_: | does anyone know why mythtv would have a high pitched whine in the background of selective channels? |
| [02:48:00] | CanadaBy: | NightMonkey: you still around? |
| [02:48:00] | mikmorg_: | not all channels, but Sci-Fi among others have a quite loud constant whine in their audio |
| [02:52:00] | Lightning: | if you pipe the video to a file directly, then play the file, do you get a whine? |
| [02:52:00] | Lightning: | and do you get a whine if other audio files are played? |
| [02:52:00] | Lightning: | could be a setting on the tuner or settings of the audio itself |
| [02:53:00] | mikmorg_: | i get the whine after its recorded, and i play it through mythtv, |
| [02:53:00] | mikmorg_: | but i haven't recorded it to anything else |
| [02:53:00] | Lightning: | more wondered if any other video file whines |
| [02:54:00] | Lightning: | if not, then it may be the recording volume (if adjustable) for the tv card |
| [02:54:00] | mikmorg_: | only certain channels, and i haven't noticed any other video |
| [02:54:00] | mikmorg_: | i wouldn't think it would be volume, unless it saves per channel somehow |
| [02:54:00] | Lightning: | may only take bumping the audio down slightly for the recording as another channel that is louder may be peaking constantly |
| [02:54:00] | Lightning: | that is my thought process at least |
| [02:55:00] | mikmorg_: | i see |
| [02:55:00] | Lightning: | as to how to adjust the record volume, i am not sure. I dont have a setup currently |
| [02:55:00] | mikmorg_: | well, the food network (which is notoriously louder it seems) is fine |
| [02:55:00] | mikmorg_: | ok, |
| [02:55:00] | mikmorg_: | well thanks |
| [02:55:00] | Lightning: | then I am not sure until someone else speaks up :) |
| [02:55:00] | Lightning: | i can only try ideas |
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| [03:01:00] | red_fox: | xris! |
| [03:01:00] | red_fox: | I need a quick tip with mythweb ;-) |
| [03:01:00] | Lightning: | anyone happen to have a spare ir blaster cable for the wintv-pvr 250? |
| [03:01:00] | red_fox: | my video_dir is pointing to the /myth folder, but I keep getting permission denied |
| [03:02:00] | Lightning: | red_fox, does the myth user have permissions to the myth folder? |
| [03:02:00] | Lightning: | and does it exist? |
| [03:02:00] | xris: | red_fox: chmod |
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| [03:02:00] | red_fox: | yeah everyone has read permissions on everything |
| [03:02:00] | xris: | on the full path? |
| [03:02:00] | Lightning: | what about write? |
| [03:02:00] | red_fox: | I wonder if there is a problem with the sym link |
| [03:03:00] | red_fox: | no write permissions |
| [03:03:00] | PatrickDK: | how about execute on the dirs |
| [03:03:00] | xris: | red_fox: the other option is to make sure that you have read the README and set up all of the directory options. |
| [03:03:00] | Lightning: | PatrickDK is right, need execute on dirs too |
| [03:03:00] | red_fox: | drwxrwxr-x 2 mythuser users 3504 Oct 12 20:00 myth |
| [03:03:00] | Lightning: | and what user is myth running as? |
| [03:03:00] | red_fox: | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Oct 12 19:52 video_dir -> /mnt/storage/myth/ |
| [03:03:00] | Lightning: | at the moment when you try it... |
| [03:04:00] | red_fox: | well the problem is through mythweb, so it goes through apache |
| [03:04:00] | Lightning: | ok, so it should only need to read though... is /mnt, /mnt/storage both rx for all? |
| [03:04:00] | xris: | red_fox: symlinks inherit their parent permissions. |
| [03:05:00] | xris: | is each part of /mnt/storage/myth/ readable by all? |
| [03:05:00] | red_fox: | ok I've never really understood how that works ;-) |
| [03:05:00] | red_fox: | yes it appears so |
| [03:05:00] | NightMonkey: | CanadaBy: Yep. You're now in Fedora-land, and I'm not the person to help with that, sorry. |
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| [03:05:00] | Lightning: | think of a symlink as trying to access the file with the provided path. if the other path has permissions issues, then you will have trouble |
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| [03:06:00] | red_fox: | so the permissions on the link itself don't matter? |
| [03:06:00] | PatrickDK: | no |
| [03:06:00] | red_fox: | alright |
| [03:06:00] | Lightning: | nope, otherwise i could symlink to /etc/shadow and write to it :) |
| [03:06:00] | xris: | red_fox: symlinks don't have permissions |
| [03:06:00] | xris: | or rather, they have ALL permissions. |
| [03:06:00] | red_fox: | all the .nuv files are -rw-r--r-- root root |
| [03:06:00] | xris: | red_fox: again, look at each part of the path |
| [03:06:00] | Lightning: | no, they have only the permissions of what it is linked to |
| [03:06:00] | red_fox: | but I can get to a test.html file in /mnt/storage/myth |
| [03:06:00] | red_fox: | I set it to 777 |
| [03:07:00] | xris: | oh |
| [03:07:00] | xris: | how big are the files? |
| [03:07:00] | xris: | apache can't handle file >2G |
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| [03:07:00] | red_fox: | oh hrm |
| [03:07:00] | red_fox: | yeah that is probably the problem |
| [03:07:00] | PatrickDK: | xris, apache 1.3 or 2? |
| [03:07:00] | xris: | PatrickDK: 2 |
| [03:07:00] | red_fox: | yeah you are right; it works fine on my 1.1gb files |
| [03:07:00] | xris: | 1.3 works, and the 64 bit version of 2 supposedly does |
| [03:08:00] | PatrickDK: | I haven't started using 2yet |
| [03:08:00] | Lightning: | i need a spare ir cable for my pvr 250 :( |
| [03:08:00] | red_fox: | guess I'll have to use scp for these then |
| [03:08:00] | PatrickDK: | but havesome friends that do |
| [03:08:00] | red_fox: | thanks for the help! |
| [03:08:00] | Lightning: | but i cant find one online |
| [03:09:00] | xris: | Lightning: could always make one |
| [03:10:00] | Lightning: | xris, if i could find the connect that plugs into the card |
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| [03:10:00] | Lightning: | quite small :) |
| [03:10:00] | PatrickDK: | it's a normal plug |
| [03:10:00] | xris: | Lightning: wouldn't matter if you made your own. could use serial |
| [03:10:00] | PatrickDK: | think cellphone audio |
| [03:11:00] | PatrickDK: | cellphone headset |
| [03:11:00] | Lightning: | xris, ah, but the connect is already there, why not use it? |
| [03:11:00] | xris: | Lightning: apparently you can't |
| [03:11:00] | xris: | anyway, just a valid alternative if you wanted to keep the remote |
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| [03:12:00] | Lightning: | xris, if i could find the cable i'd be fine |
| [03:12:00] | Lightning: | i was thinking that the pvr-250 was a blaster and receiver though (compared to just a blaster) |
| [03:13:00] | xris: | I thought it was only a receiver |
| [03:14:00] | Lightning: | i'm trying to find a definate answer as my sister's boyfriend is giving me the card and there is mixed info it seems |
| [03:15:00] | xris: | probably depends on which version of the card it is |
| [03:15:00] | xris: | afk |
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| [03:16:00] | Lightning: | well, it comes with a remote, yet, the main website lists it as an ir blaster |
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| [03:16:00] | Lightning: | aha, it has a transmitter, and a blaster |
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| [03:17:00] | Lightning: | which means it is probably a 3 wire hookup inside. grrr |
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| [03:23:00] | xris: | Lightning: blaster *is* a transmitter. |
| [03:23:00] | Lightning: | err, reciever and blaster. found a doc on the website showing it |
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| [03:26:00] | tv: | i wish myth didn't use mysql |
| [03:26:00] | PatrickDK: | change it |
| [03:26:00] | tv: | how |
| [03:26:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, you program it |
| [03:26:00] | JohnP789: | I've just setup mythtv, and I have nearly all Unknown (Unknown)'s in my program guide. |
| [03:26:00] | tv: | pffft |
| [03:26:00] | JohnP789: | Some stuff shows up, but only about 5%. |
| [03:26:00] | JohnP789: | Any pointers? |
| [03:26:00] | JohnP789: | I'm using Zap2It. |
| [03:26:00] | tv: | can anyone help me with mysql? it won't let me set the password for user mythtv |
| [03:26:00] | red_fox: | run mythfilldatabase? |
| [03:27:00] | red_fox: | tv, I usually use phpmyadmin |
| [03:27:00] | JohnP789: | red_fox, yep. |
| [03:27:00] | tv: | red_fox: what's that? |
| [03:27:00] | red_fox: | JohnP789, any errors? |
| [03:27:00] | red_fox: | tv, an online database frontend |
| [03:27:00] | JohnP789: | I just noticed that listings start showing up after midnight tonight. It's 8:27PM here now. |
| [03:27:00] | PatrickDK: | I just use mysqlcc |
| [03:27:00] | JohnP789: | Maybe it's just "priming the pump"? |
| [03:28:00] | tv: | red_fox: ok, maybe that will help me understand mysql because right now mysql doesn't seem to work very well at all |
| [03:28:00] | red_fox: | JohnP789, is this the first time you have filled the database? |
| [03:28:00] | tv: | red_fox: i was able to set the root user password but now it won't let me change it, nor set a password for any other user |
| [03:28:00] | red_fox: | tv, yeah that is why I like to use a frontend ;-) |
| [03:28:00] | JohnP789: | red_fox, Yep, I just installed mythtv. Actually, just set up this machine from scratch. |
| [03:29:00] | tv: | red_fox: thanks, i'll try it |
| [03:29:00] | red_fox: | JohnP789, hrm I'm not sure why it wouldn't give you the data for today |
| [03:29:00] | red_fox: | you can try to run mythfilldatabase again |
| [03:29:00] | tv: | red_fox: is phpmyadmin a pain to install and configure? |
| [03:29:00] | JohnP789: | Everything after midnight tonight looks great. |
| [03:29:00] | red_fox: | are you sure your datetime is setup right? |
| [03:29:00] | red_fox: | tv, guess it depends on your distro |
| [03:29:00] | red_fox: | it isn't that bad |
| [03:30:00] | tv: | red_fox: ok, i'll try emerging it ;) |
| [03:30:00] | red_fox: | JohnP789, run date and make sure it is correct |
| [03:31:00] | JohnP789: | Yep, looks fine. |
| [03:31:00] | JohnP789: | The time inside of MythTV is correct. |
| [03:31:00] | red_fox: | well I guess the easy answer is to just wait until midnight, and then you are good to go :-P |
| [03:32:00] | JohnP789: | red_fox, That'll be good enough for me! :-) |
| [03:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | 12~ |
| [03:32:00] | red_fox: | JohnP789, heh sorry I can't help any more |
| [03:32:00] | JohnP789: | I'm gonna be watching a lot more good TV real soon. |
| [03:33:00] | JohnP789: | My MythTV box is a Celeron/266 overclocked to 400MHz. It can't smoothly play video from my ivtv board. |
| [03:33:00] | JohnP789: | I'm planning just to record with it and play videos on another machine over the network. |
| [03:33:00] | PatrickDK: | john, you didn't actually expect it to did you? |
| [03:33:00] | PatrickDK: | my 850mhz almost plays it |
| [03:33:00] | JohnP789: | I didn't expect it would be able to play, no. |
| [03:33:00] | PatrickDK: | really need a 1ghz |
| [03:34:00] | JohnP789: | I have a Hollywood Plus card somewhere. Any help there? |
| [03:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | JohnP789: That wont help you |
| [03:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | there is no myth support for it |
| [03:35:00] | JohnP789: | OK, no problem. |
| [03:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | any 650 or above "should" play the recordings from an ivtv. |
| [03:35:00] | PatrickDK: | greyfoxx, it probably has to do with the other program running on my machine |
| [03:36:00] | PatrickDK: | and 720x480 res with no video card help |
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| [03:37:00] | JohnP789: | It takes several seconds to go through some of the menus in the frontend. :-) |
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| [03:40:00] | JohnP789: | Like hitting "Scheduling Options" in setting up a scheduled recording. |
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| [03:44:00] | tv: | i hope my hauppauge pvr150 will work |
| [03:45:00] | JohnP789: | Is there a way to change when the day starts for purposes of a "Find Daily" schedule? |
| [03:46:00] | JohnP789: | I like a show that airs at 7PM and is rebroadcast at 4AM. I'd like to record the 7PM one, but once daily is picking up the 4AM one. |
| [03:47:00] | red_fox: | JohnP789, I think you could tell it to record the 7PM one by telling it to record 'every day this time slot' |
| [03:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well then just do a in this timeslot every day recording. Otherwise it's going to pick the first one o a given day |
| [03:48:00] | JohnP789: | Ah, right. Duh... :-) |
| [03:49:00] | JohnP789: | Thanks for the pointers. Time to run. |
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| [03:49:00] | mchou: | PatrickDK: what vid card you using on the 850mhz? |
| [03:50:00] | PatrickDK: | it wasa 6800, now it's a sis |
| [03:50:00] | mchou: | PatrickDK: a 6800 with xvmc on 850mhz wasnt enough for analog sdtv? |
| [03:51:00] | PatrickDK: | no xvmc, it wouldn't work |
| [03:51:00] | ip_goat_rodeo: | I still think motorola microprocessors first rather than video cards when I hear 6800 |
| [03:51:00] | mchou: | on a 6800 xvmc didnt work? |
| [03:51:00] | PatrickDK: | I couldn't get it working |
| [03:51:00] | PatrickDK: | install nvidia drivers, those worked |
| [03:51:00] | PatrickDK: | compiled with xvmc, that worked |
| [03:51:00] | PatrickDK: | it said it was using xvmc |
| [03:51:00] | PatrickDK: | but when I turned on any filers or anything |
| [03:51:00] | PatrickDK: | the filters worked |
| [03:51:00] | PatrickDK: | and they shouldn't |
| [03:52:00] | mchou: | PatrickDK: what is average CPU util w/o xvmc during playback? |
| [03:52:00] | PatrickDK: | 90–100 |
| [03:52:00] | mchou: | ouch |
| [03:52:00] | PatrickDK: | I have a program that is using 10–20% of that though |
| [03:52:00] | mchou: | xvmc (if you had it working) probably would have save 10–15% cpu |
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| [03:53:00] | mchou: | you didnt compile myth with xvmc support? |
| [03:53:00] | PatrickDK: | I assume I did, with the options |
| [03:53:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [03:53:00] | PatrickDK: | and I had the xvmc option in the menu |
| [03:53:00] | PatrickDK: | and in the ogs |
| [03:53:00] | PatrickDK: | logs |
| [03:53:00] | mchou: | ok, maybe you did have it in myth...... |
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| [03:54:00] | PatrickDK: | every test says it should be working |
| [03:54:00] | PatrickDK: | but well, that computer is getting upgraded anyways |
| [03:54:00] | mchou: | so what made you think it didnt work? |
| [03:54:00] | PatrickDK: | they said the menus would look like crap |
| [03:54:00] | PatrickDK: | the osd |
| [03:54:00] | mchou: | true.... |
| [03:54:00] | PatrickDK: | andthat if you turn on invert filter |
| [03:55:00] | PatrickDK: | it shouldn't change the picture |
| [03:55:00] | PatrickDK: | causeyou can't filter the hardware decoder |
| [03:55:00] | mchou: | right |
| [03:55:00] | PatrickDK: | and the filter always change it |
| [03:55:00] | mchou: | ok. |
| [03:55:00] | mchou: | I'd chalk that one up to operator error :) |
| [03:55:00] | PatrickDK: | heh |
| [03:55:00] | mchou: | the xvmc part, that is. |
| [03:56:00] | mchou: | the sis, is it unichrome? |
| [03:56:00] | PatrickDK: | no |
| [03:56:00] | PatrickDK: | I don't think so atleast |
| [03:56:00] | mchou: | ok, no mpeg accel on that either, then..... |
| [03:56:00] | PatrickDK: | ya |
| [03:57:00] | mchou: | still, putting a 6800 in 50mhhz is a bit of overkill and craziness |
| [03:57:00] | mchou: | 850* |
| [03:57:00] | PatrickDK: | overkill? |
| [03:57:00] | mchou: | yup. OVERKILL |
| [03:57:00] | PatrickDK: | how so? |
| [03:58:00] | mchou: | mismatched CPU/vidcard |
| [03:58:00] | PatrickDK: | well, like I said the 850mhz was not being used, and was a good base test |
| [03:59:00] | PatrickDK: | I don't have a motherboard for the 2.4ghz cpu's I have here |
| [03:59:00] | Lightning: | any good link on applying filters to the video before it goes out? I came across an article about using ffdshow in windows to crisp things up, etc |
| [03:59:00] | mchou: | it would have been a good base test if you had xvmc working :) |
| [03:59:00] | Lightning: | and any thoughts obviously |
| [04:00:00] | PatrickDK: | well, using the 350 output worked good :) |
| [04:00:00] | mchou: | bah, who needs that |
| [04:00:00] | mchou: | more headaches |
| [04:00:00] | Lightning: | mchou, just looking for opinions :) |
| [04:01:00] | mchou: | Lightning: that wasnt meant for you |
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| [04:09:00] | Lightning: | any suggested amount of memory for a mythbox setup? |
| [04:09:00] | Krazylegz: | As much as you can afford? |
| [04:10:00] | Lightning: | wasnt sure if 512MB would be ok or if i should bump up to 1GB |
| [04:10:00] | Krazylegz: | I have 512MB and I think it's enough, but I'm sure someone will say that you'll want more if you're doing more things. |
| [04:10:00] | Krazylegz: | Dedicated Mytbox? |
| [04:10:00] | Krazylegz: | *Mythbox? |
| [04:10:00] | Lightning: | yes, front and backend on it |
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| [04:12:00] | smoke_: | anyone here use a windows media center remote? |
| [04:13:00] | dhofstra: | I use 512 mb just fine to even do HDTV, dont know why you'd need more |
| [04:13:00] | dhofstra: | I run kde even |
| [04:14:00] | mchou: | 512 is plenty |
| [04:14:00] | mchou: | even if you run other stuff, as long as it's not kpdf/ghostview :) |
| [04:15:00] | Krazylegz: | Gimp. |
| [04:15:00] | Krazylegz: | I want to run Gimp on my Mythbox. :-) |
| [04:15:00] | mchou: | those are memory-suckers. |
| [04:15:00] | dhofstra: | backend = mythbox? |
| [04:15:00] | Lightning: | dedicated box + dev for myth, but that shouldnt do much to it |
| [04:15:00] | Lightning: | planning to run front and backend on the same box |
| [04:15:00] | Lightning: | amd 64 2800+ |
| [04:16:00] | dhofstra: | with PVR shouldnt be a problem, but with bttv would interfere |
| [04:16:00] | mchou: | amd 64? |
| [04:16:00] | Lightning: | not the semptron (duron version) |
| [04:16:00] | dhofstra: | I run gimp, etc on my backend |
| [04:16:00] | mchou: | lol, get as much mem as you can afford :) |
| [04:16:00] | Lightning: | dhofstra, wintv pvr 250 card |
| [04:16:00] | mchou: | memory is cheap these days. |
| [04:16:00] | dhofstra: | that'll use .. well nothing out of your backend resources.. esentially |
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| [04:17:00] | mchou: | Lightning: plan on doing any HDTV? |
| [04:17:00] | dhofstra: | yeah, if it's something you'll have in the back of your head if it ever skips, then like mchou says, memory is damn cheap |
| [04:17:00] | mchou: | dhofstra: on a A64 I'd recommend more mem :) |
| [04:18:00] | dhofstra: | i cant run gimp when encoding and decoding HDTV .. not with 512 |
| [04:18:00] | Lightning: | mchou, in the future |
| [04:18:00] | dhofstra: | yeah, maybe A64 intel does pretty good with 512 |
| [04:18:00] | Lightning: | 2 ddr slots. get 512 now... |
| [04:18:00] | mchou: | Lightning: why?? you dont have Dual channel? |
| [04:19:00] | Lightning: | mchou, i need to look and see if this motherboard does dual chan. micro-atx board |
| [04:19:00] | mchou: | Lightning: what kind of cheapo mobo is this?? |
| [04:19:00] | mchou: | lol, probably some via crap |
| [04:19:00] | Lightning: | MSI motherboard |
| [04:19:00] | dhofstra: | I'd think dual channel would be pretty useful with hdtv anyway |
| [04:20:00] | mchou: | dhofstra: that's not the point :) |
| [04:20:00] | Lightning: | the problem i had was finding a board with pci-express for the vid with pci slots next to it (no pci express x1 to put gaps between them) for the slim case (due to the riser card) |
| [04:20:00] | mchou: | Lightning: bah....pci-exp on matx is like suicide |
| [04:21:00] | Lightning: | http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainbo . . . .php?UID=682 |
| [04:21:00] | Lightning: | i dont care much for ati |
| [04:22:00] | mchou: | oh lord, an ati chipset??? |
| [04:22:00] | mchou: | that's gotta be crappier than even via. |
| [04:22:00] | mchou: | and dont even bother to use on board video. |
| [04:23:00] | Lightning: | i wasnt going to use onboard video |
| [04:23:00] | Lightning: | geforce 6600 |
| [04:24:00] | mchou: | Lightning: I think life is going to be real interesting for you....... |
| [04:24:00] | mchou: | what possessed you to buy that? |
| [04:24:00] | Lightning: | as i said, finding a micro-atx with agp or pci-express x16 with pci slots immediately after (no other pci-express x1) is difficult for amd |
| [04:24:00] | Lightning: | not bought yet |
| [04:25:00] | Lightning: | plus i was looking for sata connects |
| [04:28:00] | Lightning: | there is an ECS one i looked at but the recent reviews were not good for it |
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| [04:28:00] | Lightning: | and that is it, at least on newegg's website |
| [04:29:00] | Lightning: | for motherboards that include 4 sata (2 hd, 1 dvd burner) |
| [04:29:00] | mchou: | Lightning: look at foxconn's offering if you want matx |
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| [04:29:00] | Lightning: | no can do, it has pci-express x1 slot on it. for it's position, it wont work with the riser card for the case |
| [04:30:00] | mchou: | riser card? |
| [04:30:00] | mchou: | you asking for even more trouble |
| [04:31:00] | Lightning: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811163040 |
| [04:31:00] | red_fox: | mchou, are you always this negative? ;-) |
| [04:31:00] | Lightning: | i think that would fit very well for a htpc :) |
| [04:32:00] | Krazylegz: | red_fox: Yes, he is. :-) |
| [04:32:00] | Lightning: | apparently he is |
| [04:32:00] | Lightning: | i'm having fun knocking back though |
| [04:32:00] | smoke_: | anyone here using a media center remote? |
| [04:33:00] | Krazylegz: | MythTV + MS? |
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| [04:38:00] | smoke_: | Krazylegz, well i kinda cant even get lirc to work properly i think i dunno i tried from the cvs |
| [04:39:00] | Krazylegz: | There is no CVS. |
| [04:40:00] | smoke_: | err |
| [04:40:00] | smoke_: | no lirc. |
| [04:41:00] | Krazylegz: | You're using lirc from CVS? |
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| [04:45:00] | _Nero_: | Finally, I have a stable mythmusic, with one exception- if I put in an audio CD, I get a buffer overflow.. anyone heard of this happening? |
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| [04:48:00] | Lightning: | _Nero_, no |
| [04:48:00] | Lightning: | at least not me |
| [04:49:00] | _Nero_: | I think I found something- seems to have something to do with FC4.. |
| [04:49:00] | _Nero_: | the search continues.. :) |
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| [04:50:00] | abarbaccia: | hey guys – quick nuvexport questions |
| [04:50:00] | abarbaccia: | so i transcoded a video – it came out huge (a couple of gigs) and when i go to use a program to create a DVD with it – it tells me taht the bitrate is too high (dvd's use 9800kbps and i have a 107,000kbps video?) is the correct? |
| [04:51:00] | abarbaccia: | or should i jsut ignore the error and keep going? |
| [04:51:00] | Lightning: | i would tend to trust what a program says for what a dvd uses. dvd's are compressed to a certain amount |
| [04:52:00] | abarbaccia: | right – but my question is will it play still? |
| [04:52:00] | abarbaccia: | oh hell, i'm just gonna try it – what do i have to lose right?! |
| [04:52:00] | abarbaccia: | alright – thanks guys – bye |
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| [04:52:00] | poonj: | hey guys |
| [04:52:00] | poonj: | anyone here own a pcHDTV-3000? |
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| [04:58:00] | tv: | anyone know if dillo supports php? |
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| [05:00:00] | tv: | someone suggested phpmyadmin for starting the mysql configuration but I can't seem to get the php to run, it just displays the directory contents |
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| [05:00:00] | Krazylegz: | Then your Apache configuration is incorrect for PHP. |
| [05:01:00] | tv: | i thought it autoloaded php through modules.d |
| [05:02:00] | tv: | there is a php conf file in modules.d |
| [05:02:00] | xris: | tv: modules.d isn't usually an apache thing, is it? |
| [05:02:00] | Krazylegz: | Usually Apache dynamically loads PHP, but you have to check that in your Apache config. |
| [05:02:00] | tv: | see, i already have this line in httpd.conf |
| [05:02:00] | tv: | Include /etc/apache2/modules.d/*.conf |
| [05:03:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, that won't load PHP. |
| [05:03:00] | tv: | xris: apache apparently uses it now |
| [05:03:00] | Krazylegz: | You need a like like LoadModule .... |
| [05:03:00] | xris: | tv: well, your distro does, anyway |
| [05:03:00] | tv: | gentoo |
| [05:03:00] | Krazylegz: | Apache2? |
| [05:04:00] | tv: | apache, i think it's 2.0.54 |
| [05:05:00] | xris: | tv: so can you run any of the php files? |
| [05:05:00] | xris: | maybe just the index file association is broken? |
| [05:05:00] | tv: | xris: i haven't tried because I don't know what to run? what should I run? |
| [05:05:00] | tv: | (all this because mysql sucks) |
| [05:05:00] | xris: | um, click one of them? |
| [05:05:00] | xris: | mysql doesn't suck. |
| [05:05:00] | Krazylegz: | MySQL does not suck. |
| [05:05:00] | tv: | it does, it wouldn't let me change the password for the mythtv user |
| [05:06:00] | xris: | works great if you know how to use it. imho phpmyadmin sucks. I have no idea how to use it. |
| [05:06:00] | Lightning: | any benefit to having a dvi connect on the vid card? |
| [05:06:00] | tv: | says it was disconnected from @localhost |
| [05:06:00] | Lightning: | i'd currently be using the s-video out... |
| [05:06:00] | xris: | tv: um... GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* to 'mythuser'@'some_hostname' IDENTIFIED BY 'some_password' |
| [05:06:00] | xris: | then FLUSH PRIVILEGES; |
| [05:06:00] | NightMonkey: | tv: Did you add "-D PHP4" to your /etc/conf.d/apache2 ? |
| [05:06:00] | Krazylegz: | Boo for GRANT/DENY. |
| [05:07:00] | tv: | xris: how the hell do I do that?? |
| [05:07:00] | xris: | tv: huh? that's the command you run to grant privs to a user |
| [05:07:00] | xris: | from the mysql client |
| [05:07:00] | Krazylegz: | tv: You have to login to mysql CLI first. |
| [05:07:00] | tv: | xris: oh, mysql |
| [05:07:00] | tv: | that's a start |
| [05:07:00] | tv: | thanks |
| [05:07:00] | xris: | you said it didn't work. I gave you the command that is how you do it. |
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| [05:08:00] | NightMonkey: | tv: ^^^ |
| [05:08:00] | tv: | I can't run mysql. ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO) |
| [05:08:00] | Krazylegz: | You have to login. |
| [05:08:00] | tv: | it won't let me log in. |
| [05:08:00] | NightMonkey: | tv: add "-p" to the mysql command. |
| [05:08:00] | Krazylegz: | tv: Try mysql -p |
| [05:08:00] | tv: | ok |
| [05:08:00] | Krazylegz: | That will prompt you for a password. |
| [05:08:00] | Krazylegz: | In the future, you may want to setup an alias for mysql that instead uses mysql -p. |
| [05:09:00] | tv: | ok |
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| [05:10:00] | NightMonkey: | Doh |
| [05:10:00] | Krazylegz: | Interesting. |
| [05:10:00] | NightMonkey: | He wanted "drive-by support". |
| [05:11:00] | xris: | man, people need to learn to use --help |
| [05:11:00] | Krazylegz: | xris --help |
| [05:11:00] | NightMonkey: | I just have this image in my mind of him madly typing and screaming "AARRGH. Linux sux. MySQL sux. MythTV is leet, but it sux!" |
| [05:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | or google |
| [05:12:00] | xris: | heh |
| [05:12:00] | Krazylegz: | --pm-xris-for-help-now :-) |
| [05:12:00] | xris: | yeah, let's not do that. heh. |
| [05:12:00] | Krazylegz: | l33t! |
| [05:12:00] | NightMonkey: | Oops, my bad. l33t, indeed. |
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| [05:15:00] | tv: | sorry |
| [05:15:00] | tv: | my case fell apart and I had to track down where i was losing video |
| [05:17:00] | tv: | i can't remember where i was |
| [05:17:00] | Lightning: | mysql -p i believe |
| [05:17:00] | tv: | did that finally |
| [05:17:00] | tv: | was going to GRANT something |
| [05:18:00] | Lightning: | any suggestions of a nvidia chipset? was thinking the 6600 but wondered if anything less would work |
| [05:18:00] | tv: | i didn't fully understand the syntax or if there were prerequisites |
| [05:18:00] | Krazylegz: | Mother. Check the ircLog. |
| [05:18:00] | tv: | no irc log |
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| [05:18:00] | Dark`-`: | hey guys |
| [05:18:00] | Dark`-`: | whats up :) |
| [05:18:00] | Krazylegz: | tv: There is a log on the web for this channel. |
| [05:18:00] | tv: | this is a new system, i haven't configured stuff like that |
| [05:18:00] | tv: | *sigh* |
| [05:18:00] | Dark`-`: | hey i have a simple question |
| [05:19:00] | Lightning: | tv, you get a private msg about the log |
| [05:19:00] | Dark`-`: | i bought a tv tuner today, but i realized something that might be a problem |
| [05:19:00] | Lightning: | anytime you join the chan |
| [05:19:00] | Dark`-`: | i have Comcast digital cable, so i was wondering how mythtv is going to change the channels for recording |
| [05:19:00] | Krazylegz: | tv: http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/ |
| [05:19:00] | Dark`-`: | im totally new to this so im sure its a simple answer |
| [05:19:00] | NightMonkey: | tv: Dude, take a breath, and maybe a break. You need to read the mythtv docs: http://mythtv.org/docs/ |
| [05:20:00] | red_fox: | Dark`-`, I use a IR blaster |
| [05:20:00] | red_fox: | other people have been able to hook up to their cable box with a serial cable |
| [05:20:00] | Dark`-`: | hmm |
| [05:20:00] | Dark`-`: | we have this tiny little motorola box |
| [05:20:00] | Lightning: | Dark`-`, you hook up an ir blaster (if you do not already have one) to the serial or usb and myth then uses it to change channels (by sending out the signals like a remote control) |
| [05:20:00] | tv: | thanks for giving me shit when I had to leave |
| [05:21:00] | Dark`-`: | ok |
| [05:21:00] | Dark`-`: | im gunna have to get one of those then |
| [05:21:00] | tv: | i'll go rtfm. |
| [05:21:00] | Dark`-`: | good thing theres a known solution :) i became a bit stressed when i realized that issue |
| [05:21:00] | Lightning: | i think irblaster.info has one cheap |
| [05:21:00] | Lightning: | unless you want a more professional model |
| [05:21:00] | NightMonkey: | Dark`-`: I use an IR Blaster from here: http://www.mytvstore.com/product_id_005.html |
| [05:21:00] | Lightning: | assuming you have a serial port open |
| [05:21:00] | Dark`-`: | whatever works |
| [05:21:00] | Dark`-`: | yea i got serial |
| [05:21:00] | Dark`-`: | and usb |
| [05:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | tv: Sometimes knowing what is said after you leave a room , both IRL and on IRC can be a blessing and a curse :) |
| [05:22:00] | Dark`-`: | thanks guys |
| [05:23:00] | tv: | i've been using linux for over ten years, it's not a problem |
| [05:23:00] | tv: | but you sorely misunderstand me according to your gestures |
| [05:24:00] | Dark`-`: | Lightning: does this work reliably? |
| [05:24:00] | Dark`-`: | i know soemtimes I have issues using the remote control myself ;) |
| [05:25:00] | Lightning: | if you get a decent ir blaster, it sits right at the receiver, so unless the receiver has issues, it shoudl be reliable |
| [05:25:00] | Dark`-`: | ok cool |
| [05:25:00] | NightMonkey: | Dark`-`: Sorry, mislinked – I use the serial version: http://www.mytvstore.com/product_id_004.html |
| [05:26:00] | Dark`-`: | thanks NightMonkey |
| [05:26:00] | Dark`-`: | cheaper, i like it |
| [05:26:00] | NightMonkey: | Dark`-`: They even have a script to use it with Linux and MythTV: http://www.mytvstore.com/mythtv_linux.html |
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| [05:27:00] | red_fox: | Dark`-`, I've had really good luck with this one: http://iguanaworks.net/ir/ |
| [05:27:00] | red_fox: | doens't look as snazzy though ;-) |
| [05:27:00] | Dark`-`: | haha thats ok |
| [05:28:00] | Dark`-`: | as long as the things are reliable thats all i would care about |
| [05:28:00] | NightMonkey: | Dark`-`: Mine has worked fine since 8/2004 |
| [05:28:00] | Dark`-`: | wouldnt wanna come home and find out i recorded sex in the city instead of family guy :) |
| [05:28:00] | red_fox: | haha |
| [05:28:00] | Dark`-`: | nice |
| [05:29:00] | Krazylegz: | Heh. I record Sex and the City but not Family Guy.... |
| [05:29:00] | Dark`-`: | lol |
| [05:30:00] | Krazylegz: | In fact, let's not talk about that. |
| [05:30:00] | Dark`-`: | i guess i have another question, is WinTV Go Plus any good for a cheap tuner? |
| [05:30:00] | Dark`-`: | i read some reviews by people and it didnt seem that bad |
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| [05:31:00] | Dark`-`: | it was on sale at circuit city and i finally had a use for my gift card hehe |
| [05:31:00] | Dark`-`: | they had the WinTV USB 2.0 tuner as well, for less even, but i heard it wasn't as good |
| [05:31:00] | mchou: | Dark`-`: that all depends on luck and your tolerance for bad :) |
| [05:31:00] | Dark`-`: | luck, hah |
| [05:32:00] | Dark`-`: | i guess for tv im not recording HD so it doesn't matter too much |
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| [05:32:00] | NightMonkey: | Dark`-`: Many folks here are fans of the Hauppauge PVR-* line. |
| [05:32:00] | Dark`-`: | they had that too but it was like $30–40 more |
| [05:32:00] | Dark`-`: | i guess if i dont end up liking this one i can always upgrade |
| [05:33:00] | Dark`-`: | friendly irc channel, i like it, i'll stick around :) |
| [05:34:00] | NightMonkey: | Dark`-`: Do check that there is good support in Linux before you set yourself up a nasty grief session. |
| [05:35:00] | NightMonkey: | Now, where's that old hardware wiki... |
| [05:35:00] | ** NightMonkey scrounges ** | |
| [05:35:00] | Dark`-`: | hey red_fox they have the schematic on there ;) |
| [05:35:00] | Dark`-`: | i think im gunna build this puppy myself later this week |
| [05:35:00] | NightMonkey: | Dark`-`: http://pvrhw.goldfish.org/tiki-pvrhwdb.php |
| [05:36:00] | _Nero_: | Here is a strange one.. anyone here use Xine? If I have chain-reaction post processing enabled (deinterlace, denoise, and unsharp mask), the menus/extras on a DVD are slow as can be (pegging my CPU usage). When the chain-reaction is off, it runs fine.. However, running the main movie on a DVD, with the same chain-reaction enabled, and I am only using 65% or so of the CPU.. |
| [05:37:00] | Dark`-`: | NightMonkey: i saw someone on there that used this card and they liked it so I guess that means im ok? :) |
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| [05:37:00] | NightMonkey: | Dark`-`: There you go. Trust, but verify. ;) |
| [05:38:00] | Dark`-`: | coo |
| [05:38:00] | Dark`-`: | $25 they'll send me all the parts and the PCB hah |
| [05:38:00] | red_fox: | Dark`-`, yeah go for it... I didn't want to spend the time |
| [05:38:00] | red_fox: | but it isn't that complicated of a circuit |
| [05:38:00] | NightMonkey: | Dark`-`: Just make sure their entry doesn't have a "1" rating... |
| [05:39:00] | Dark`-`: | yea theres only a few components lol |
| [05:39:00] | Dark`-`: | i could probably do it easily without their pcb |
| [05:39:00] | Dark`-`: | got a decent EE lab here |
| [05:39:00] | red_fox: | the nice thing is that they use a huge cap for the blaster... gets good range |
| [05:39:00] | Dark`-`: | yea to store the charge, not too shabby |
| [05:39:00] | Dark`-`: | i wonder how long it takes to charge it |
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| [05:39:00] | red_fox: | I think they say 10–15 minutes total, but it stays charged after that |
| [05:40:00] | red_fox: | and it'll still work at partial charge, just don't have the range |
| [05:40:00] | Dark`-`: | i built an IR transmitter similar to this a few years ago, reached 200 ft ;) |
| [05:40:00] | Dark`-`: | with a 9V battery |
| [05:40:00] | red_fox: | hah not too shabby |
| [05:40:00] | Dark`-`: | although i did put like 6 IR LEDs on it |
| [05:40:00] | red_fox: | there are some simpler schematics on lirc.org, but less range |
| [05:41:00] | Dark`-`: | hmm interesting |
| [05:41:00] | Dark`-`: | i dont really need range actually |
| [05:41:00] | Dark`-`: | the box is going to be sitting on my pc |
| [05:41:00] | red_fox: | yeah I didn't really need the range either, but I was in a hurry |
| [05:41:00] | Dark`-`: | i gotta wait for my card to come in next week at some point |
| [05:41:00] | tv: | does http://mythtv.org/docs/ say anywhere about configuring the kernel for the capture card? |
| [05:41:00] | Dark`-`: | or else i wouldn't be patient either |
| [05:42:00] | Dark`-`: | the cable box too |
| [05:42:00] | NightMonkey: | Dark`-`: I have mine taped in front of my dish reciever's IR port... |
| [05:42:00] | red_fox: | ah I see |
| [05:42:00] | Dark`-`: | haha yea thats what i gotta do |
| [05:42:00] | tv: | lspci shows my card as 0000:00:08.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01) |
| [05:43:00] | tv: | it's a hauppauge pvr150 |
| [05:44:00] | red_fox: | tv, which distro? |
| [05:44:00] | tv: | gentoo |
| [05:45:00] | red_fox: | go follow the guide on the gentoo wiki |
| [05:45:00] | Krazylegz: | tv: Did you get MySQL to cooperate? |
| [05:45:00] | red_fox: | gentoo-wiki.com |
| [05:45:00] | tv: | ok thanks |
| [05:47:00] | tv: | Krazylegz: somewhat, i was reading the mythtv docs |
| [05:48:00] | tv: | Krazylegz: i created the initial database, i think |
| [05:48:00] | tv: | Krazylegz: the thing I don't understand about that part is in the mythtvfrontend setup there is mysql database configuration, its default is user: mythtv password: mythtv and I don't know if that's system users or mysql users or if there is even a difference |
| [05:48:00] | Krazylegz: | That's a step in the right direction. |
| [05:49:00] | tv: | but i figured i should at least get my kernel configured |
| [05:49:00] | Krazylegz: | MySQL user. |
| [05:49:00] | Krazylegz: | There is a difference. |
| [05:49:00] | tv: | i still haven't seen any documentation on how to add the mythtv mysql user |
| [05:49:00] | Krazylegz: | MySQL users and shell accounts are totally independent. |
| [05:49:00] | Krazylegz: | Do you know SQL? |
| [05:49:00] | tv: | i've avoided SQL purposely, i'd rather use a text file. |
| [05:50:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, MythTV doesn't work that way. |
| [05:50:00] | tv: | now it bites me because i don't have a choice |
| [05:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | tv: The mc.sql file will create the user |
| [05:50:00] | tv: | GreyFoxx: that's all i needed to know about that, thanks |
| [05:50:00] | tv: | GreyFoxx: that part seemed to work when i used the < redirector and mc.sql |
| [05:50:00] | Krazylegz: | I guess MythTV isn't a learning experience for everyone. I thought those people were Tivo people, though... |
| [05:51:00] | tv: | i wonder if my card is supported by BT848 |
| [05:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | That creates the blank mythconverg database and the mythtv user |
| [05:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | tv: the pvr 150 uses the ivtv drivers |
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| [05:51:00] | tv: | GreyFoxx: ok, so *now* i should be able to set the password for the mythtv user :P |
| [05:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | tv: the mc.sql creates it and set the password. |
| [05:52:00] | tv: | GreyFoxx: oh, and ivtv is not in the kernel default yet |
| [05:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | You could certainly change it if you want |
| [05:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | tv: Nope, and likely wont be for a while to come |
| [05:52:00] | Krazylegz: | Okay, how many times will Fran Drescher get a show? |
| [05:52:00] | tv: | GreyFoxx: so now i just need to get my card/driver and the backend going |
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| [05:52:00] | red_fox: | 10 points to whomever can answer this: What song is playing during the Jarhead movie trailer? |
| [05:52:00] | mchou: | Krazylegz: did you realize she was in the movie "Spinal Tap?" |
| [05:53:00] | Krazylegz: | Never saw it. |
| [05:53:00] | Krazylegz: | Now I don't even want to. |
| [05:53:00] | mchou: | Krazylegz: lol. Spinal Tap is a great movie |
| [05:54:00] | mchou: | Krazylegz: get out of those PA woods :) |
| [05:54:00] | Krazylegz: | Woods? You can't grow corn in the woods. |
| [05:54:00] | mchou: | cant believe you've never seen Spinal Tap. |
| [05:54:00] | Krazylegz: | You don't know ME! :-P |
| [05:54:00] | tv: | http://dl.ivtvdriver.org/ivtv/ivtv-0.3.8.tar.gz seems to be missing |
| [05:54:00] | Krazylegz: | I wonder if you can emerge ivtv now. |
| [05:54:00] | tv: | yes |
| [05:55:00] | mchou: | Krazylegz: I dont need to know ya :) |
| [05:55:00] | tv: | but no, it won't download that file |
| [05:55:00] | tv: | Krazylegz: i was just trying to emerge it... the package is ~x86 keyworded, and it couldn't download that file.. 404 Not Found |
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| [05:56:00] | Krazylegz: | Then I guess now. |
| [05:56:00] | Krazylegz: | *not. |
| [05:57:00] | tv: | Krazylegz: gentoo devs just need to update the ebuild or something, ivtv people moved it into an archive directory.. :( |
| [05:57:00] | Krazylegz: | Either way, you should probably just grab it manually. |
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| [06:00:00] | Cardoe: | tv: because that URL is wrong |
| [06:00:00] | Cardoe: | tv: and because 0.3.8 is old |
| [06:00:00] | Cardoe: | tv: more like you need to run emerge --sync |
| [06:00:00] | Cardoe: | and not bitch about Gentoo devs |
| [06:00:00] | Cardoe: | when the Gentoo dev updated it more then 48 hrs ago |
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| [06:00:00] | tv: | sorry. |
| [06:01:00] | Krazylegz: | Cardoe == Gentoo guru. |
| [06:02:00] | Cardoe: | Dunno if I'd say that. |
| [06:02:00] | Krazylegz: | You are. Admit it. |
| [06:03:00] | Cardoe: | I've been working on it for a few years. |
| [06:03:00] | tv: | Cardoe: sorry, really... i should have synced.. I would have done that first if it didn't take so long. |
| [06:03:00] | Netslayer: | is there a way to do auto nuvexporting from mythtv's job system or the like through the scheduler? |
| [06:03:00] | tv: | i've been using gentoo about four years |
| [06:04:00] | Krazylegz: | Netslayer: A cron job to do it wouldn't be too hard. |
| [06:04:00] | Netslayer: | mythtv job support would be nicer heh |
| [06:04:00] | Cardoe: | Netslayer: dunno if nuvexport intergrates. I know mythtranscode does |
| [06:04:00] | Cardoe: | tv: use 0.4.0-r2 |
| [06:05:00] | Cardoe: | tv: that'll be the latest ~x86 |
| [06:05:00] | tv: | syncing now :) |
| [06:05:00] | Netslayer: | what's available though with mythtranscode.. any wrappers for ffmpeg or xvid? |
| [06:05:00] | tv: | i should have done "time emerge sync" to see how long it actually takes |
| [06:05:00] | Netslayer: | tv, if you haven't done it in a while it will take like an hr |
| [06:05:00] | red_fox: | tv, it usually takes me 5–7 minutes, but I keep it up to date |
| [06:05:00] | tv: | Netslayer: it was just about two days ago |
| [06:06:00] | Netslayer: | 20 min prob |
| [06:06:00] | tv: | red_fox: that's a lot longer than it took years ago, and that was on slower hardware and internet connection |
| [06:06:00] | Netslayer: | 1129145497: >>> starting rsync with rsync://192.168.1.28/gentoo-portage |
| [06:06:00] | Netslayer: | 1129145736: === Sync completed with rsync://192.168.1.28/gentoo-portage |
| [06:06:00] | red_fox: | tv, well there are a lot more packages now |
| [06:06:00] | Krazylegz: | tv: I'll do time emerge sync and get back to you. ;-) |
| [06:06:00] | red_fox: | a LOT more |
| [06:06:00] | tv: | red_fox: about six times more than when i started using it |
| [06:07:00] | Krazylegz: | Yah. |
| [06:07:00] | red_fox: | so you have to expect some slowdown |
| [06:07:00] | Cardoe: | be happy to have rsync |
| [06:07:00] | Cardoe: | we used to use CVS |
| [06:07:00] | tv: | Cardoe: of course |
| [06:07:00] | red_fox: | hehe |
| [06:07:00] | Netslayer: | heh |
| [06:07:00] | Cardoe: | I used CVS straight to like release 1.3 |
| [06:08:00] | tv: | heheh.. updating portage cache still sits at 51% for a long time |
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| [06:08:00] | Cardoe: | tweaking hdparm helps a lot |
| [06:08:00] | Cardoe: | with rsync |
| [06:08:00] | tv: | not on serial ATA :) |
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| [06:09:00] | Cardoe: | well then it should take a fraction of a sec |
| [06:09:00] | tv: | updating portage cache? 52% now |
| [06:09:00] | Krazylegz: | Since when did this become #gentoo-whiners ? :-) |
| [06:10:00] | red_fox: | hahaha |
| [06:10:00] | Cardoe: | Krazylegz: since you showed up |
| [06:10:00] | Cardoe: | ;) |
| [06:10:00] | Krazylegz: | Ouch. |
| [06:10:00] | Krazylegz: | I got burn-ed by teh l33t. |
| [06:10:00] | Cardoe: | 3 min for emerge --sync here. |
| [06:10:00] | Cardoe: | on a laptop |
| [06:10:00] | Cardoe: | 5400rpm drive |
| [06:11:00] | tv: | i'm going to need to sync again by the time it's done syncing ;) |
| [06:12:00] | Cardoe: | why is your system so slow? |
| [06:12:00] | tv: | not sure |
| [06:12:00] | tv: | it's a celeron? :) |
| [06:12:00] | Cardoe: | you got serial ATA on a celeron? |
| [06:12:00] | tv: | 2.8 GHz celeron D |
| [06:12:00] | Cardoe: | if you're gonna spend the extra cash on serial ata |
| [06:12:00] | Cardoe: | just buy a real processor |
| [06:13:00] | tv: | this is computer 4 of 5 |
| [06:13:00] | tv: | i have real processors in the first three.. this is just a myth box |
| [06:14:00] | tv: | (and i will use it for other things too) |
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| [06:15:00] | tv: | oops, i forgot I still need v4l in the kernel first |
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| [06:16:00] | briand: | argh! |
| [06:17:00] | Krazylegz: | MythTV heals. |
| [06:17:00] | briand: | Okay, I've got ivtv 0.4.0 installed on my mythtv box... and it'll modprobe and start up just fine, finds both my PVR-350 and my PVR-500. When I reboot, ivtv 0.2.0 (rc3j) is loaded again. Where is it finding it?? |
| [06:18:00] | tv: | ok i need to reboot for kernel |
| [06:18:00] | Boonie: | anyone offer some help to a linux/myth noob |
| [06:18:00] | Boonie: | ? |
| [06:18:00] | Boonie: | trying to get myth running on suse 9.3 with ati tv wonder pro |
| [06:18:00] | briand: | I've done a "find / -iname \*ivtv\* -ls and the ONLY ivtv.ko that it finds on the disk is my 0.4.0 version... |
| [06:18:00] | tv: | just remember as i learn more about mythtv i can help others :) |
| [06:18:00] | tv: | brb |
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| [06:22:00] | Cardoe: | briand: obviously it's not the only one. |
| [06:22:00] | Cardoe: | briand: did you compile it by hand? |
| [06:25:00] | briand: | yes, I compiled ivtv 0.4.0 by hand |
| [06:26:00] | briand: | the 0.2.0 version was originally installed from mythtv-suite while I was following Jarod's Fedora Myth guide |
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| [06:28:00] | Cardoe: | briand: ok. you're probably modprobing the ivtv module from the source folder |
| [06:28:00] | Cardoe: | and then one in /lib/modules is still the 0.2.0 version |
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| [06:29:00] | drp: | what's the command to launch mythTV from the terminal |
| [06:31:00] | Krazylegz: | time emerge sync |
| [06:31:00] | Krazylegz: | real 22m54.999s |
| [06:31:00] | Krazylegz: | user 16m4.887s |
| [06:31:00] | Krazylegz: | sys 1m30.107s |
| [06:32:00] | briand: | Cardoe: when I do a "find /lib/modules -iname \*ivtv\* -ls" it returns the three .bin files in /lib/modules (new firmware), and in 2.6.11–1.27_FC3/ivtv it finds ivtv.ko and ivtv-fb.ko, both 0.4.0 with today's date |
| [06:33:00] | Boonie: | do I need ivtv if I"m using an ATI tuner? |
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| [06:34:00] | briand: | Cardoe: "modinfo ivtv" returns 'version: 0.4.0 (tagged release)' |
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| [06:34:00] | briand: | Cardoe: ...but dmesg indicates, in the ivtv section, that 0.2.0 (rc3j) is loading... |
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| [06:35:00] | tv: | re |
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| [06:36:00] | tv: | i think something weird happened, i made it as far as running mythfrontend and chose "watch tv" and the screen went black.. i couldn't figure out any keys to escape except ctrl-alt-bksp |
| [06:41:00] | tv: | i can't seem figure out how to bind video sources to my card's inputs, i don't comprehend the interface so far |
| [06:41:00] | tv: | in mythsetup |
| [06:42:00] | tv: | what is xmltv listings grabber? |
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| [06:46:00] | tv: | weird, it did it again, but this time i can switch between workspaces |
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| [06:49:00] | tv: | why did it tell me to run mythfilldatabase? I tried that and it got 401 Unauthorized |
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| [06:50:00] | tv: | what does this mean? 2005-10–12 22:23:01.884 ChannelBase: Could not find input: Television on card when setting channel 3 |
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| [06:51:00] | MillaTime: | hi |
| [06:51:00] | tv: | hi |
| [06:51:00] | MillaTime: | My room-mate told me that mythTV completely wipes your hard-drive, is this true? |
| [06:52:00] | tv: | i think everyone's asleep |
| [06:52:00] | MillaTime: | oh, do you know? |
| [06:52:00] | tv: | MillaTime: your room-mate is full of shit |
| [06:52:00] | Agrajag-: | yes |
| [06:52:00] | MillaTime: | yes as in, yes this is true? |
| [06:52:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah |
| [06:53:00] | Dark`-`: | dude |
| [06:53:00] | Dark`-`: | i was just reading the schematic on this |
| [06:53:00] | Dark`-`: | .33F at 5.5V lol |
| [06:53:00] | Dark`-`: | i need a plexiglass box to cover this thing ;) |
| [06:56:00] | tv: | should i be using video0, video24, or video32?? |
| [06:58:00] | tv: | damn, i got this far, now all i get is a black screen, and i don't understand the error messages.. google isn't helping |
| [06:58:00] | MillaTime: | where in the documentation does it tell me that my hard-drive will be wiped? |
| [06:59:00] | tv: | MillaTime: it does not |
| [07:00:00] | tv: | MillaTime: your hard drive will not be wiped. |
| [07:00:00] | MillaTime: | Agrajag- says it will. |
| [07:00:00] | tv: | you're missing some marbles |
| [07:00:00] | MillaTime: | no, I'm getting conflicting answers! |
| [07:01:00] | tv: | you asked a stupid question |
| [07:01:00] | MillaTime: | It was stated on Systm, a reputable podcast. |
| [07:02:00] | tv: | heh |
| [07:04:00] | MillaTime: | Well, seeing as how I have working TV on my Windows partition, and if I were to try installing MythTV, and had troubles, I would probably get false answers from you people, simply because the answers seem stupid to you, I'll stick with what I've got. |
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| [07:05:00] | tv: | what a tardlet |
| [07:07:00] | Agrajag-: | ahah |
| [07:07:00] | Agrajag-: | it's a good thing he's not using myth :P |
| [07:09:00] | tv: | Error getting inputs for the capturecard. Perhaps you have |
| [07:09:00] | tv: | forgotten to bind video sources to your card's inputs? |
| [07:09:00] | tv: | speaking of tardlets |
| [07:09:00] | tv: | i can't seem to figure out how to do that correctly |
| [07:09:00] | tv: | whenever i try to "watch tv" it goes to a black screen and mythfrontend freezes |
| [07:11:00] | tv: | any help please? I'm using a hauppauge pvr-150, should i be setting it as pvr-250/pvr-350 or generic v4l device? |
| [07:11:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | 250/350 |
| [07:12:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | and did you do what it said about binding the video source to the proper input? |
| [07:12:00] | tv: | how do i "bind video sources to card inputs?" |
| [07:12:00] | tv: | i'm using mythsetup |
| [07:12:00] | Dark`-`: | lol |
| [07:12:00] | tv: | it doesn't make sense to me |
| [07:12:00] | tv: | there's no "coax" input |
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| [07:13:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | in the backend setup program. Tuner 0 |
| [07:13:00] | tv: | just svideo 0,1 composite 0,1,2,3 and tuner 0,1 |
| [07:13:00] | tv: | is that "mythsetup"? |
| [07:13:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | use Tuner 0 |
| [07:13:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | yes |
| [07:13:00] | tv: | tuner 0 is the one that screws on |
| [07:14:00] | tv: | typical coax cable |
| [07:14:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | yes |
| [07:14:00] | tv: | i see 3. video sources and 4. input connections |
| [07:14:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | it "Tunes" into a frequency coming over the cable. |
| [07:15:00] | tv: | the 3. video sources menu i completely don't understand |
| [07:15:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | that's because the chip supports multiple inputs but there aren't connectors for most of them on the card. Some newer cards have a connector where you can add a couple extra composite inputs I believe. I've seen people selling the cables for them. |
| [07:16:00] | tv: | ok so how to i create a video source? |
| [07:16:00] | tv: | there are none listed |
| [07:16:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | did you read the HOWTO? |
| [07:16:00] | tv: | i was looking through http://mythtv.org/docs |
| [07:16:00] | tv: | that's not the howto is it? |
| [07:17:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | you should read the howto, it's all described in there I believe. you probably haven't even setup the guide data then if you don't have a video source. |
| [07:18:00] | tv: | is the howto mythtv.org/docs? |
| [07:18:00] | tv: | nevermind, stupid question |
| [07:19:00] | tv: | it says fill in the username and password you have established with datadirect |
| [07:19:00] | tv: | can i skip that part? |
| [07:20:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | and did you do that? |
| [07:20:00] | tv: | no, wtf is datadirect? |
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| [07:20:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | you need to do some more research if you don't know what datadirect is. do you know how you're going to get the guide data?? (xmltv, datadirect, etc.) |
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| [07:21:00] | tv: | i don't care about that, i just want to view channel 3 right now ;) |
| [07:21:00] | tv: | is it free? |
| [07:21:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | yes. are you in the U.S.? |
| [07:22:00] | tv: | yes |
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| [07:22:00] | tv: | datadirect.com? |
| [07:22:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | there's info in the howto about that also. labs.zap2it.com |
| [07:24:00] | tv: | signing up |
| [07:24:00] | tv: | *bleah* :) |
| [07:27:00] | tv: | it's requiring a certificate code. |
| [07:27:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | that's in the howto or docs |
| [07:27:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | did you read anything before you started installing Myth? It would save you a lot of heartache. |
| [07:28:00] | tv: | i'm reading as i go. |
| [07:28:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | read ahead. :) |
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| [07:29:00] | tv: | i wonder if i can get this howto in a single text file :) |
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| [07:31:00] | tv: | ok found it :) |
| [07:33:00] | tv: | now it makes sense |
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| [07:36:00] | tv: | YES |
| [07:36:00] | tv: | it all seems to work now |
| [07:37:00] | tv: | too bad my first mythtv experience is Jay Leno |
| [07:40:00] | tv: | what the... up and down arrows don't change channels |
| [07:40:00] | tv: | or it changes to the same channel |
| [07:42:00] | tv: | You don't have any channels defined in the database |
| [07:42:00] | tv: | but i had it fetch the listings.. |
| [07:43:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | did you setup the video source and associate it with Tuner 0? |
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| [07:43:00] | tv: | yes |
| [07:43:00] | tv: | i can watch channel 3 |
| [07:43:00] | tv: | and i even get audio |
| [07:44:00] | tv: | up and down arrows change the channel to channel 3 |
| [07:44:00] | tv: | data direct lineup shows my cable provider name and zip code correctly |
| [07:45:00] | tv: | channel frequency table is us-cable |
| [07:45:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | go into the program guide and see what it shows. |
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| [07:45:00] | tv: | ah what was it, mythfill... |
| [07:45:00] | tv: | i probably still need to do that |
| [07:45:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | mythfilldatabase creates your channels I believe. |
| [07:46:00] | tv: | doing so now |
| [07:46:00] | tv: | program guide was empty ;) |
| [07:46:00] | tv: | which crashed mythfrontend |
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| [07:47:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | hence no guide data and no channels to change to. |
| [07:47:00] | tv: | it keeps downloading the same file |
| [07:47:00] | tv: | http://datadirect.webservices.zap2it.com/tvlistings/xtvdService |
| [07:48:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | did you setup your login and password in mythtv-setup? |
| [07:49:00] | tv: | yes, mythsetup |
| [07:49:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | has to be giving an error message or something. |
| [07:49:00] | tv: | it is downloading said file over and over again but the file size being reported varies |
| [07:49:00] | tv: | no |
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| [07:49:00] | Chutt: | why do you think it's the same file? |
| [07:49:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | it does download about 12 days worth of data. |
| [07:49:00] | tv: | 23:22:33 (50.17 KB/s) – `-' saved [171,019] |
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| [07:50:00] | tv: | 23:23:21 (36.05 KB/s) – `-' saved [149,569] |
| [07:51:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | looks like different files for different days. look at the messages above, it will tell you what day it is working on. |
| [07:51:00] | Chutt: | everyone knows that any given url is completely static forever. whenever someone changes a webpage, they have to rename the file |
| [07:51:00] | tv: | finally got a connection time out |
| [07:51:00] | tv: | the top was just saying "rxvt" |
| [07:52:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | :) |
| [07:52:00] | tv: | i'm running wget 1.9.1... |
| [07:52:00] | tv: | let me try mythsetup again and see if it forgot my settings again |
| [07:53:00] | tv: | this time it remembered |
| [07:53:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | last time you probably hit ESCape instead of ENTER somewhere. |
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| [07:54:00] | tv: | anyway, wget indicates it is downloading |
| [07:55:00] | tv: | a couple hours ago when I tried running mythfilldatabase before i even had a login and password, it said 401 Unauthorized, so I know something is right now |
| [07:56:00] | tv: | You probably should modify the Master Server settings |
| [07:56:00] | tv: | in the setup program and set the proper IP address. |
| [07:56:00] | Cardoe: | tv: echo "net-misc/wget ssl" >> /etc/portage/package.use |
| [07:56:00] | Cardoe: | tv: emerge wget |
| [07:56:00] | Chutt: | cardoe, he's fine. it's saving data fine. |
| [07:56:00] | Chutt: | obviously |
| [07:57:00] | tv: | er |
| [07:57:00] | Cardoe: | I just read the unauthorized line |
| [07:57:00] | tv: | ok thanks, i'll try that |
| [07:57:00] | Cardoe: | tv: wait first |
| [07:57:00] | Cardoe: | tv: what does emerge -pv wget say |
| [07:57:00] | tv: | already had ssl |
| [07:57:00] | Cardoe: | does it say -ssl or +ssl? |
| [07:57:00] | tv: | emerge info |
| [07:57:00] | Cardoe: | ok |
| [07:57:00] | Chutt: | if he's downloading data |
| [07:57:00] | Chutt: | it's correct |
| [07:57:00] | Cardoe: | then ignore what I said and listen to Chutt |
| [07:58:00] | Chutt: | he's already been ignoring me, so, what the fuck do i know |
| [07:58:00] | tv: | for each set of attempts i get three 401's and one download |
| [07:58:00] | tv: | Chutt: am not.. hi |
| [07:58:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: someone told me you got the right answer for 1+1, so I know you know at least that. |
| [07:59:00] | tv: | Chutt: what made you think i was ignoring you when you hadn't said anything to me yet? :) |
| [07:59:00] | Chutt: | because you're still babbling about the fact that it's downloading the same file over and over? |
| [07:59:00] | tv: | what should i do? |
| [07:59:00] | Chutt: | uh, nothing? |
| [07:59:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | check the guide and see if it worked. :) |
| [08:00:00] | Chutt: | thinking that a given url is a single, static file is rather dumb. |
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| [08:01:00] | simcop2387: | mythosd needs to be able to work over mplayer/xine or even during menu selection |
| [08:02:00] | Chutt: | how exactly do you propose to make it work over mplayer or xine? |
| [08:02:00] | tv: | now it's 7 hours off :) |
| [08:02:00] | tv: | probably a local/utc issue |
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| [08:18:00] | tv: | how can I fix the time skew in the program guide? I just changed my clock settings |
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| [08:19:00] | tv: | changed from UTC to local and relinked /etc/localtime correctly |
| [08:19:00] | tv: | instead of GMT |
| [08:19:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | if you fix your clock you need to redownload the guide data. |
| [08:20:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | (and delete the old data first) |
| [08:20:00] | tv: | sounds simple enough |
| [08:20:00] | tv: | where's the old data? |
| [08:21:00] | NightMonkey: | tv: mysql db. |
| [08:21:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | in the program table; |
| [08:21:00] | tv: | :/ |
| [08:21:00] | tv: | how do i delete it? |
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| [08:33:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | figure it out yet? |
| [08:36:00] | tv: | no |
| [08:36:00] | tv: | i haven't really tried yet |
| [08:36:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | here's one link http://d.hatena.ne.jp/nozom/20041114 |
| [08:36:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | look for "delete from program;" |
| [08:37:00] | tv: | i just quit mythfrontend and it started automatically running mythfilldatabase |
| [08:37:00] | tv: | ok thanks |
| [08:37:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | the backend will run it once a day if you configure it to. |
| [08:37:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | might be the default now, can't recall. |
| [08:37:00] | tv: | that must be it, i did configure it to |
| [08:37:00] | tv: | will that replace ALL data daily or just the newest? |
| [08:37:00] | NightMonkey: | tv: I think your data will be screwed up, tho. |
| [08:38:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | replaces just tomorrows. you need to run that delete sql command then rerun mythfilldatabase. |
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| [08:39:00] | tv: | i can't get mythfilldatabase to stop running |
| [08:40:00] | NightMonkey: | tv: Just wait. Give it a few minutes. |
| [08:40:00] | tv: | there, i had to killall mythbackend |
| [08:41:00] | NightMonkey: | tv: Not the best way to stop it... |
| [08:42:00] | tv: | heh |
| [08:42:00] | tv: | there's no interface |
| [08:42:00] | tv: | i had already escaped out of it and quit when it asked |
| [08:43:00] | tv: | Captain_Murdoch: anyway, i was able to run those commands |
| [08:43:00] | tv: | delete from program; |
| [08:43:00] | tv: | and |
| [08:43:00] | Atamido: | Why was it so vital that you stop it right then? |
| [08:43:00] | tv: | delete from oldprogram; |
| [08:43:00] | tv: | Atamido: because i needed to erase all the old program database info |
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| [08:44:00] | tv: | Atamido: it was 7 hours off because i had CLOCK="UTC" but i fixed that now |
| [08:45:00] | tv: | but really i'm not sure, haven't tried it since i made that change |
| [08:45:00] | Atamido: | Yeah, timezones in Linux are always screwy. :P |
| [08:46:00] | tv: | mythfilldatabase is still running, when it catches up I'll find out if what i did fixed it |
| [08:46:00] | tv: | shows that should have been on at 4pm were listed at 11pm |
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| [08:54:00] | tv: | ALL good now |
| [08:54:00] | tv: | thank you |
| [08:55:00] | tv: | now i only need to get familiar with the keys :) |
| [08:56:00] | Atamido: | I changed my hardware clock to correct the time. :P |
| [08:56:00] | tv: | my hardware clock was correct... |
| [08:56:00] | tv: | mythtv seems to not like CLOCK="UTC" |
| [08:57:00] | Atamido: | Mine was correct too. ;) |
| [08:57:00] | Atamido: | _was_ |
| [08:57:00] | tv: | all the times are correct now ;) |
| [08:58:00] | tv: | i feel so much better now |
| [08:58:00] | KaZeR: | rdate is usefull. put something like "0 * * * * /usr/bin/rdate -s time.nist.gov > /dev/null 2>&1 " in your crontab and you'll keep it accurate |
| [08:58:00] | tv: | i'm using ntp-client |
| [08:59:00] | tv: | my problem was from /etc/localtime being linked to UTC instead of Arizona |
| [08:59:00] | tv: | and mythtv couldn't handle UTC |
| [08:59:00] | tv: | so the program browser was 7 hours off |
| [08:59:00] | tv: | all fixed now though |
| [09:00:00] | KaZeR: | oh ok. |
| [09:00:00] | KaZeR: | didn't read the whole thread, i confess :) |
| [09:00:00] | tv: | there may have been some other way to fix it but I should didn't know |
| [09:00:00] | tv: | i prefer local time anyway, not UTC |
| [09:03:00] | tv: | thanks again |
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| [09:05:00] | Dark`-`: | and he quits again |
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| [12:01:00] | woodt: | Hi All, I want to setup my MythTv box without tracknumbers in MythMusic. It seems impossible because the will be defaulted to 0. Is this true? |
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| [13:29:00] | roam: | Can I transform mythtv recordings into mpg-movies or .avis? |
| [13:31:00] | Skaface: | yeah, but they made it as hard as possible to do |
| [13:32:00] | roam: | Skaface: and how do I do it? |
| [13:32:00] | Skaface: | https://svn.forevermore.net/nuvexport/ |
| [13:32:00] | Skaface: | if that works, its easy |
| [13:34:00] | roam: | and if not? |
| [13:34:00] | Skaface: | youll have to use a messy combination of nuvexport and mencoder |
| [13:35:00] | Skaface: | sorry, mythtranscode and mencoder |
| [13:35:00] | Skaface: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-22.html#ss22.1 |
| [13:35:00] | Skaface: | tells you how there |
| [13:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | roam: What kind of capture card ? |
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| [13:45:00] | roam: | GreyFoxx: Haupauge DVB-T |
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| [14:07:00] | PaulWay: | Faithful: did you email me about tv_grab_au? |
| [14:07:00] | PaulWay: | Or am I getting confused with someone else. |
| [14:09:00] | PaulWay: | How are we all this evening, anyway? |
| [14:11:00] | Skaface: | tired |
| [14:11:00] | PaulWay: | wrestling with Linux again? |
| [14:12:00] | KaZeR: | beginning of the afternoon here, but doing fine, thanks :) |
| [14:12:00] | Beirdo: | and I just woke up |
| [14:12:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [14:12:00] | PaulWay: | Hurray for 24-hour internet access! |
| [14:13:00] | PaulWay: | Strangely, my to-do list on mythtv is quite low. |
| [14:13:00] | PaulWay: | All thanks to the mythtv channel. |
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| [14:13:00] | PaulWay: | I've just got to get the remote control working. |
| [14:13:00] | Beirdo: | mine is being ignored... thanks to a woman :) |
| [14:13:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [14:13:00] | PaulWay: | Anyone had any success getting serial IO to work? |
| [14:13:00] | PaulWay: | Beirdo: my woman is ignoring me for my mythtv machine! |
| [14:14:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [14:14:00] | Beirdo: | mine is heading to work |
| [14:16:00] | PaulWay: | (serial IR IO to work, that is – a com port that has an IR thingo attached to it) |
| [14:16:00] | PaulWay: | (courtesy of a motherboard header) |
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| [14:17:00] | PaulWay: | I also have an AVerMedia plug-in IR detector, and a USB IR dongle that seems to fool the system into thinking it has a second keyboard (stupid bloody thing) |
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| [14:19:00] | PaulWay: | And they go all quiet... |
| [14:19:00] | Beirdo: | no clue |
| [14:21:00] | PaulWay: | Yeah, me neither :-) |
| [14:25:00] | PaulWay: | Anything I can help with then? |
| [14:42:00] | Beirdo: | can you make me a pot of coffee? :) |
| [14:43:00] | Beirdo: | it MUST be raining... so dark out |
| [14:43:00] | ** KaZeR would like coffee too :) ** | |
| [14:43:00] | KaZeR: | no sugar, and no milk. thanks :) |
| [14:44:00] | Beirdo: | I don't wanna go to work |
| [14:45:00] | Beirdo: | blech |
| [14:46:00] | PaulWay: | *makes coffee using Jamaican Blue Mountain beans from real Jamaica* :-) |
| [14:46:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [14:46:00] | Beirdo: | good shit |
| [14:47:00] | PaulWay: | Mmmmmm. I'm going to be disappointed when it runs out... |
| [14:48:00] | PaulWay: | Curse, now I want a coffee and it's ten to 11PM and I'd like to get some sleep tonight. |
| [14:48:00] | Beirdo: | you're welcome :) |
| [14:48:00] | PaulWay: | :-) |
| [14:49:00] | Beirdo: | ah, maybe I should just get dressed and head for work |
| [14:49:00] | Beirdo: | blech |
| [14:50:00] | Beirdo: | seeya all in a bit |
| [14:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | Not if I see you first! |
| [14:51:00] | PaulWay: | Beirdo: you know you 'want' to... :-) |
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| [15:09:00] | Lightnin: | morning |
| [15:10:00] | PaulWay: | Goodnight! :-) |
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| [15:10:00] | Skaface: | time for me to go to bed too |
| [15:11:00] | Skaface: | bye |
| [15:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nice, 55Minutes to encode a 1h20m clip. Much better than the 6–13fps I was getting on my other box with transcode heh |
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| [15:20:00] | Lightnin: | GreyFoxx, what ya running now? |
| [15:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | Lightning: I'm doing it on my laptop. avisynth+virtualdub :) |
| [15:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | mencoder, transcode etc are just too slow |
| [15:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | Plus I like the variety of filters for avisynth |
| [15:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | avisynth+DGDecode+DGIndex+Virtualdub = yummy |
| [15:22:00] | Lightnin: | ah |
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| [15:48:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: those windows programs? |
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| [15:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | rjune: Yup |
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| [15:50:00] | Beirdo: | ugh |
| [15:50:00] | Beirdo: | work |
| [15:50:00] | sphing: | ugh... why am I getting this: make: Nothing to be done for `default'. |
| [15:51:00] | sphing: | ... ot.. though |
| [15:51:00] | Beirdo: | less Makefile |
| [15:51:00] | Beirdo: | that means make has nothing to do for the 'default' target |
| [15:51:00] | Beirdo: | you'll have to read your Makefile for more details |
| [15:51:00] | sphing: | http://pastebin.com/392218 |
| [15:52:00] | Beirdo: | then the make -C returned with nothing to do |
| [15:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | It normally means that the stuff is alreasdy compiled and it doesn't feel it needs to do anything |
| [15:53:00] | Beirdo: | so your jiffies.o is up-to-date |
| [15:53:00] | sphing: | i have no jiffies.o |
| [15:53:00] | ** Beirdo shrugs ** | |
| [15:53:00] | Beirdo: | well have fun then :) |
| [15:53:00] | sphing: | haha |
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| [15:57:00] | sphing: | the same makefile works on my pc ... but not on the machine i need to work on |
| [15:59:00] | Lightnin: | it is making modules, but i only see obj-m... |
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| [15:59:00] | Lightnin: | where is the modules section defined? |
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| [15:59:00] | MrSpiffy: | hello – question |
| [15:59:00] | Lightnin: | and i assume "shell uname -r" returns a valid string for an existing directory |
| [16:00:00] | MrSpiffy: | I am using a bttv card – the colors are washed out. I would like the channels to look the same using myth as they do watching reg. cable. I am looking at the channel filters |
| [16:00:00] | sphing: | uname -r is the working kernel |
| [16:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | No, uname -r returns the kernel version, nothing about directopries |
| [16:00:00] | Lightnin: | GreyFoxx, see KDIR definition |
| [16:00:00] | MrSpiffy: | which are recording filters? |
| [16:00:00] | Lightnin: | it is putting it into a directory |
| [16:00:00] | sphing: | no its not |
| [16:00:00] | MrSpiffy: | adjust or the bright/sat/color/hue |
| [16:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | Lightnin: Ok, I see what you mean. It's building a pathname |
| [16:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | using the output of uname -r |
| [16:00:00] | Lightnin: | yes, and i was wondering if that dir exists |
| [16:01:00] | Lightnin: | and PWD obviously is using the current working directory for subdirs |
| [16:02:00] | Lightnin: | but the end of that make line defines modules to be made. but i dont see a modules entry in the makefile, just a define for obj-m |
| [16:02:00] | Lightnin: | sphing, you cut part of the make out? |
| [16:03:00] | ** Lightnin goes back to coding in VB, yes he knows it isnt powerful but great for business apps. now just to do more hardware control from it... ** | |
| [16:03:00] | sphing: | http://pastebin.com/392233 |
| [16:03:00] | sphing: | that one works on my machine but not on the other one. |
| [16:03:00] | sphing: | wtf? |
| [16:04:00] | sphing: | lol I love it... i just copied the file |
| [16:04:00] | sphing: | and now it works |
| [16:05:00] | Lightnin: | notice kdir |
| [16:05:00] | sphing: | Lightnin: ... the first one was a symlink to the same place |
| [16:05:00] | Lightnin: | you are not doing uname -r inside it to obtain a /lib/modules/[kernel version]/ entry |
| [16:06:00] | Lightnin: | that kdir is hard set. what was probably happening was that /lib/modules/$(shell uname -r)/build did not exist |
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| [16:06:00] | Lightnin: | follow? |
| [16:06:00] | sphing: | linux:/proc/jiffies # ls -l /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build |
| [16:06:00] | sphing: | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 Oct 9 22:26 /lib/modules/2.6.11.4–21.9-FS/build -> /usr/src/linux-2.6.11.4–21.9 |
| [16:06:00] | sphing: | linux:/proc/jiffies # ls -l /usr/src/linux |
| [16:06:00] | sphing: | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 Sep 21 23:19 /usr/src/linux -> linux-2.6.11.4–21.9 |
| [16:08:00] | Lightnin: | hmm, wonder if either the uname -r wasnt being executed |
| [16:09:00] | Lightnin: | aha |
| [16:09:00] | sphing: | ? |
| [16:10:00] | Lightnin: | try on the command prompt, echo $(shell uname -r) my box errors about shell not existing. but if i do echo $(uname -r) i get uname -r ran and returned |
| [16:10:00] | Lightnin: | the other box may have shell symlinked someplace to /bin/sh or similar |
| [16:10:00] | Beirdo: | hmm? |
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| [16:11:00] | Beirdo: | $(shell blah) just might be (and I think IS) a Makefile construct, not to be run in a shell |
| [16:11:00] | Beirdo: | info make |
| [16:11:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [16:11:00] | Beirdo: | that should tell you if that's the case |
| [16:12:00] | Beirdo: | damn GNU for not using man pages like they shoulda |
| [16:13:00] | Lightnin: | i was thinking that the makefiles took $() and returned what the command prompt would return (basically a version of a batch file but make itself is interpretting some) |
| [16:13:00] | Beirdo: | not really |
| [16:13:00] | Beirdo: | make has its own parser which is quite complex at times |
| [16:13:00] | Lightnin: | my fault then and i then dont have an answer for why sphing is having trouble |
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| [16:13:00] | Beirdo: | me neither |
| [16:13:00] | Beirdo: | I ain't got time to figure it out either |
| [16:13:00] | Lightnin: | but apparently hard setting kdir fixed his problem hence thinking uname -r wasnt executing |
| [16:14:00] | Beirdo: | tis quite likely |
| [16:14:00] | sphing: | no |
| [16:14:00] | sphing: | cause i copy pasted the make file over |
| [16:14:00] | sphing: | and it didnt work |
| [16:14:00] | sphing: | then i transfered the file over |
| [16:14:00] | sphing: | and it worked |
| [16:14:00] | Beirdo: | of course |
| [16:14:00] | sphing: | ? |
| [16:14:00] | ** Beirdo slaps sphing with a trout that says RTFM on it ** | |
| [16:15:00] | Beirdo: | makefiles MUST have tabs, not spaces |
| [16:15:00] | sphing: | lol... oops |
| [16:15:00] | Beirdo: | cut and paste will put in spaces |
| [16:15:00] | Beirdo: | so the line after default: |
| [16:15:00] | Beirdo: | needs a tab |
| [16:15:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [16:15:00] | laga: | :set paste |
| [16:15:00] | sphing: | alright my laptops batt is dying |
| [16:15:00] | Beirdo: | such a stupidly obscure error message :) |
| [16:16:00] | Beirdo: | welcome to the world of Makefiles |
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| [16:16:00] | juski: | oo I'm liking this HDD cloner.. 2.3GB/min :) |
| [16:16:00] | Beirdo: | dd is nice and fast |
| [16:17:00] | juski: | try getting my workplace to use Linux, Beirdo |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | hehe. poor bastard |
| [16:17:00] | laga: | dd piped to bzip2 should work as well ;) |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | nah, that will slow it WAY down |
| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | if you are cloning, dd is cool |
| [16:18:00] | laga: | hehe, right |
| [16:18:00] | juski: | just out of curiosity, can you do dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb ? |
| [16:18:00] | rjune: | sure |
| [16:18:00] | rjune: | but it may not work like you expect |
| [16:19:00] | juski: | fairy nuff |
| [16:19:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, if they have the same physical size, etc, it can work perfectly including the partition table |
| [16:19:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [16:19:00] | Beirdo: | otherwise, it can sometimes do odd stuff |
| [16:19:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:19:00] | Beirdo: | using "identical" drives has the best result |
| [16:20:00] | juski: | cool. I saw today that my local computer shop has 300GB HDDs for less than £100 now |
| [16:20:00] | ** Beirdo pounds on the desk ** | |
| [16:20:00] | juski: | just thinking it'd be easier to buy 2 identical drives, then keep one aside for mirrored backups |
| [16:21:00] | Beirdo: | make sure you use Scottish pounds :) |
| [16:21:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:21:00] | Beirdo: | make you feel even better about being "frugal" :) |
| [16:21:00] | juski: | then next time I use rm -rf * in the root directory it won't take me a whole day to fix lol |
| [16:21:00] | Beirdo: | hahah |
| [16:22:00] | Lightnin: | juski, i did that in /etc one time... |
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| [16:22:00] | Lightnin: | i had ls /tmp and didnt want the files anymore |
| [16:22:00] | juski: | I think most people only ever do that once |
| [16:22:00] | Lightnin: | just about as bad as the whole drive |
| [16:23:00] | Lightnin: | took me a week to recover all my settings |
| [16:23:00] | rjune: | heh, I did rm -rf * in /usr/lib once |
| [16:24:00] | Lightnin: | heh |
| [16:25:00] | Lightnin: | the sad thing is that when you realize what you've done, even while in the middle of a delete, you cant kill it fast enough |
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| [16:25:00] | juski: | and by the time you do it's too late. in fact it's too late when you press enter |
| [16:25:00] | juski: | no merit in having an 'are you sure' question either..you'd only say 'yes' lol |
| [16:26:00] | rage__: | ah, the lovely "rm something_i_dont_really_want_to" feeling |
| [16:26:00] | juski: | they should make those kind of questions harder to get used to.. like have different possible answers each time ;-) |
| [16:27:00] | Lightnin: | i was recompiling a package and thought i'd update libc and ld, rm -r /lib/ld.so /lib/libc.so ;; mv /[new build dir]/... /lib |
| [16:27:00] | rage__: | been there... been there. |
| [16:27:00] | juski: | anyone else had a drool (er.. look) at the new Mac media doo-dah? |
| [16:27:00] | juski: | 'frontrow' they call it |
| [16:27:00] | Lightnin: | never did work after that |
| [16:27:00] | Lightnin: | juski, not me |
| [16:28:00] | juski: | looks very swish.. wonder if it'd look that cool on an EPIA |
| [16:28:00] | Lightnin: | of course then my thought process was "compile a static ver... oops, i cant compile and i dont have a box to compile on" |
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| [16:30:00] | juski: | you know when mythtv moves to libmythui.. and it's got lots of lovely eye candy etc.. will hat stand any chance of being used with Via EPIA kit? I've tried looking into its 3d hardware stuff but can't seem to find much about its capabilities w.r.t opengl |
| [16:31:00] | Beirdo: | dunno |
| [16:32:00] | juski: | guess I'll find out eventually.. .like when the switch takes place |
| [16:34:00] | Beirdo: | yah, about then :) |
| [16:34:00] | Beirdo: | hopefully some of the eyecandy can be disabled for the CPU/video-challenged mythboxes that a lot of people have |
| [16:35:00] | juski: | CPU challenged... lol I like that |
| [16:35:00] | Beirdo: | note to self... |
| [16:35:00] | Beirdo: | when you tell BIND "notify no;"... it MEANS no |
| [16:35:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [17:06:00] | KaZeR: | If anyone here is using gentoo and mythweb, i proposed an ebuild for MythStreamTV. Testers welcome, please use the bug report here : http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109146 Thanks :) |
| [17:07:00] | Krazylegz: | KaZeR: That maybe isn't a good idea? |
| [17:07:00] | KaZeR: | Krazylegz, why? |
| [17:07:00] | rjune: | KaZeR: gentoo is for ricers http://funroll-loops.org/ |
| [17:08:00] | Krazylegz: | KaZeR: Chutt wants the MythStreamTV writer to integrate it into MythMusic, not the way it is. |
| [17:08:00] | KaZeR: | Krazylegz, if people using gentoo want to use Krazylegz, it'll make their life easier, don't you think? |
| [17:08:00] | KaZeR: | Krazylegz, i wasn't aware of that. |
| [17:09:00] | KaZeR: | and i found nothing about that in bugzilla |
| [17:09:00] | Krazylegz: | If Gentooers want to use me, then we'll have bigger issues. I have lots of dependencies, and I'm not an ebuild. ;-) |
| [17:09:00] | KaZeR: | lol damn i'm tired :) |
| [17:09:00] | KaZeR: | anyhow, writing this ebuild was a good exercice for me :) |
| [17:09:00] | KaZeR: | rjune, lol |
| [17:10:00] | KaZeR: | what's a ricer, does it has anything to do with rice? |
| [17:11:00] | Krazylegz: | Sort of. |
| [17:11:00] | Krazylegz: | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ricer |
| [17:11:00] | KaZeR: | oh ok i got it :) |
| [17:12:00] | KaZeR: | what distro are you guys using? |
| [17:13:00] | rjune: | sles and fedora mostly, though I've used gentoo, debian, mandrake, etc |
| [17:13:00] | KaZeR: | k. where does these quotes come from? |
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| [17:19:00] | rjune: | Krazylegz: that's hilarious |
| [17:25:00] | Krazylegz: | I'm using KnoppMyth right now on my Mythbox, but Gentoo everywhere else. |
| [17:25:00] | Krazylegz: | KaZeR: I don't know, that's just where I go when I don't understand some lingo. |
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| [17:28:00] | KaZeR: | Krazylegz, by quotes i meant the gentoo's user quotes from http://funroll-loops.org/ :) |
| [17:28:00] | KaZeR: | anyhow, time to go. |
| [17:28:00] | KaZeR: | bye, all! |
| [17:28:00] | Krazylegz: | Later. |
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| [17:37:00] | Beirdo: | morning, xris |
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| [17:50:00] | rjune: | Krazylegz: a pissed off bumblebee, that's great |
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| [18:01:00] | Krazylegz: | rjune: ??? |
| [18:02:00] | rjune: | the definitions of ricers. |
| [18:02:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah. Must be on one of the other pages. |
| [18:02:00] | rjune: | a car that makes a sound like a pissed off bumblebee |
| [18:02:00] | Krazylegz: | Haha, #15. |
| [18:04:00] | rjune: | though I'm thinking an RX7 engine with an AWD drivetrain could be an interesting mating |
| [18:10:00] | ** juski is seriously considering dumping gentoo after reading that webpage ** | |
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| [18:14:00] | Krazylegz: | Problem with those RX7 motors is the Apex seal, I hear. |
| [18:14:00] | Krazylegz: | Besides, Japanese cars don't have to be rice. |
| [18:15:00] | Goshen: | For anyone using Mandriva 2006 64 bit version, The plf packager is building the packages right now |
| [18:15:00] | Goshen: | for mythtv |
| [18:15:00] | mirak is now known as pouet | |
| [18:15:00] | Chutt: | is the plf packager going to stop being an idiot and build one of the actual releases? |
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| [18:15:00] | Chutt: | i mean, i only asked a few months ago, i guess it can take that long to get things done right |
| [18:16:00] | Goshen: | asking |
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| [18:16:00] | Goshen: | he is in #plf |
| [18:17:00] | Chutt: | https://plf.zarb.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=65 |
| [18:17:00] | ady: | anygirl here |
| [18:18:00] | Chutt: | the packages as built from those sources are badly broken. |
| [18:18:00] | juski: | not me, but wait til the weekend |
| [18:18:00] | xris: | fyi, Jarod Wilson is now (again) the proud father of a 15 day old girl. |
| [18:18:00] | xris: | well, not again on the girl, but again on the father part. |
| [18:19:00] | ** Krazylegz hides ** | |
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| [18:21:00] | laga: | xris: that's awesome. |
| [18:22:00] | xris: | quite. |
| [18:22:00] | Chutt: | goshen, so...? |
| [18:22:00] | xris: | will post a link to his pics as soon as he gives me permission to do so. |
| [18:25:00] | rjune: | cool congrats to him |
| [18:26:00] | rjune: | Krazylegz: I wasn't talking about making it butt ugly. I prefer the catch them running thier mouths and bitch slap them around approach |
| [18:27:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, that's good. It would still be an RX7 though, so it would still get some looks. |
| [18:28:00] | rjune: | well of course. |
| [18:28:00] | rjune: | RX7 is RWD though, |
| [18:30:00] | Cardoe: | KaZeR: that funroll-loops is so old |
| [18:30:00] | Chutt: | it's still hilarious, though |
| [18:30:00] | Cardoe: | it was created pre-1.0 |
| [18:30:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: yeah |
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| [18:32:00] | Krazylegz: | rjune: If you want AWD, why not do a Skyline? |
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| [18:38:00] | Goshen: | Chutt: come in #plf and detail exactly what your problems are and what you suggest for a fix |
| [18:38:00] | rjune: | Krazylegz: ain't doin anything right now. just got a van. |
| [18:38:00] | Goshen: | Chutt: his name is Anssi |
| [18:39:00] | Chutt: | i did that 3 months ago |
| [18:40:00] | Krazylegz: | rjune: Rice it out! |
| [18:40:00] | rjune: | hell no |
| [18:40:00] | Goshen: | Chutt: do it again, he is packaging it right now |
| [18:40:00] | Krazylegz: | I actually do want to soup up a minivan if I ever have a family. |
| [18:40:00] | rjune: | though I do want to paint it black with a red stripe ala the A-Team |
| [18:41:00] | Krazylegz: | Hell yeah! |
| [18:41:00] | rjune: | can't afford the gas in the stupid thing |
| [18:41:00] | rjune: | it's a conversion van |
| [18:41:00] | Krazylegz: | Whoa. |
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| [18:49:00] | ** juski congratulates Jared on his new arrival.. ** | |
| [18:51:00] | Krazylegz: | Maybe we can do an e-card signed by #mythtv-users. |
| [18:54:00] | juski: | I think everyone who's ever used his guide to install mythtv owes him at least that :) |
| [18:57:00] | Krazylegz: | I believe he's more valuable than just his FC MythTV guide. |
| [18:57:00] | Krazylegz: | I think he works on other stuff too. |
| [18:58:00] | juski: | come to think of it... I think a few people owe the devs quite a lot of beers |
| [18:58:00] | Krazylegz: | In Beirdo's case, rum. |
| [18:58:00] | Krazylegz: | Isn't that right, rummy? ;-) |
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| [19:01:00] | juski: | time to go home |
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| [19:37:00] | fridge_: | Does the latest debian package 'mythtv' replace all the old packages of mythdvd, mythweather, mythgallery? It wants to remove these old packages, and I'd rather not break it. |
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| [19:46:00] | beavis: | nope |
| [19:47:00] | fridge_: | It's only a base install? hmm, I do wonder why they removed the extras. |
| [19:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | probably just added another package for the plugins |
| [19:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | But not being a package user that's just a guess |
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| [19:53:00] | BaZiL: | anyone here tryed running mythtv with a tvcard for for example COMHEM ? |
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| [20:12:00] | fridge_: | I've tried running mythtv with a tvcard |
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| [20:15:00] | harryman100: | Does anyone know if there is an easy way to create a DVD from a programme recorded with mythtv |
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| [20:17:00] | stevenh: | harryman100: check out mythburn or nuv2disc |
| [20:17:00] | harryman100: | stevenh: cheers |
| [20:17:00] | Cardoe: | for all you annoying CVS/SVN ebuild people... |
| [20:18:00] | Cardoe: | How I really feel about you guys... |
| [20:18:00] | Cardoe: | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66337 |
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| [20:21:00] | njs12345: | hmm.. I've set up mythtv with a Nova-T PCI card, and I get interference with ITV and Channel 4 but not the BBC channels |
| [20:21:00] | njs12345: | I'm using the hannington transmitter |
| [20:21:00] | njs12345: | and I get interference with both the dvbstream/tzap and myth |
| [20:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cardoe: It's a fact, that users suck :) |
| [20:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | ALL of us |
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| [20:40:00] | SpaceBass: | hey folks |
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| [20:41:00] | SpaceBass: | is there a legal way to capture DirecTV right to myth, with out haveing to use a capture card? ... ie a PIC directv tunder card? |
| [20:42:00] | kormoc: | legal? nopers |
| [20:42:00] | SpaceBass: | ok... are there *cough* other ways? I dont want to steal the signal... i'm a loyal subscriber... but I'd use a PCI card and tell them it was a sony reciever or something |
| [20:43:00] | Krazylegz: | We don't talk about those here. |
| [20:43:00] | SpaceBass: | I can't see the point in going digital-analogue-digital |
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| [20:45:00] | SpaceBass: | well, thats what I keep hitting as my road block to trying myth... |
| [20:45:00] | wswanson: | anyone come up with a good mythtv icon for desktop? |
| [20:45:00] | mchou: | SpaceBass: get a video ipod? :) |
| [20:45:00] | SpaceBass: | thinking about it |
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| [20:46:00] | mchou: | ppv with video ipod...... |
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| [20:46:00] | mchou: | watch on a postage stamp :) |
| [20:46:00] | SpaceBass: | well sounds like apple has plans.. their new FrontRow app... |
| [20:46:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [20:47:00] | mchou: | mac ppl blasting frontrow :) |
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| [20:47:00] | mchou: | they are saying MCE is better.....gasp! |
| [20:48:00] | SpaceBass: | well frankly I'd love to do a myth setup... but i just cannot make it fit my needs... still waiting to see frontrow, dont know much |
| [20:48:00] | mchou: | never thought I'd see the day when mac zealots would say windows is better...... |
| [20:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [20:48:00] | SpaceBass: | i hadn't heard that from anyone yet |
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| [20:50:00] | SpaceBass: | are the dss pci cards not legal? |
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| [20:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | The cards themselves might be, but using them to access directv's encrypted service is where your problem comes in |
| [20:52:00] | SpaceBass: | well damn... i guess I'm stuck with their hd tivo...cost wise i guess its about the same as a Myth setup in the end |
| [20:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | *shrug* |
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| [20:53:00] | js2638: | I think apple should just buy tivo |
| [20:54:00] | mchou: | SpaceBass: yeah, but does it skip commercials? :) |
| [20:54:00] | SpaceBass: | mchou yep |
| [20:54:00] | mchou: | SpaceBass: automatically? :) |
| [20:54:00] | SpaceBass: | i'll trade pushing a button for HD anyday |
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| [20:57:00] | anti-net_: | Hi |
| [20:58:00] | anti-net_: | can you use MythTv on for english digital (such as freeview) |
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| [21:01:00] | Juski: | anti-net.. have you read anything about mythtv, say on the wikis or on mythtv.org? |
| [21:02:00] | Juski: | (the answer is an emphatic YES btw) |
| [21:04:00] | Cardoe: | GreyFoxx: my issue is that I'm trying to come up with a happy solution. Just they all ignore me |
| [21:04:00] | bradd: | anyone have any information on getting X on tv-out to be centered on my tv? i cant find any info on anyt of the sites ive looked at |
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| [21:10:00] | Juski: | bradd – there's only nvidia-settings – and then it only lets you adjust the amount of overscan :( |
| [21:11:00] | ** Beirdo grumbles and feels like breaking stuff ** | |
| [21:11:00] | bradd: | okay..so theres no way to fix it? |
| [21:12:00] | bradd: | why wouldn it not be centered anyway |
| [21:12:00] | bradd: | my nvidia-settings doesnt have an overscan option either |
| [21:12:00] | bradd: | at least not that i can find |
| [21:13:00] | Juski: | there's a big slider under the tv-out settings tab (or something) |
| [21:13:00] | Juski: | it's there, believe me ;) |
| [21:14:00] | bradd: | hmmm |
| [21:14:00] | bradd: | i dont see it.. |
| [21:14:00] | Juski: | bradd.. what kind of nvidia card do you have? |
| [21:15:00] | bradd: | geforce3 |
| [21:15:00] | bradd: | using the latest driver..7667 |
| [21:15:00] | Juski: | should be ok.. hang on just installing nvidia-settings now |
| [21:16:00] | Juski: | don't use nvidia on my frontend anymore, so putting it on my spare machine.. needed it installed anyway |
| [21:17:00] | Juski: | right bradd: the overscan (& other sliders) control will be under the display device section |
| [21:19:00] | bradd: | hmmm |
| [21:19:00] | bradd: | i see sliders for tv flicker tv brightness tv contrast and digital vibrance |
| [21:20:00] | Juski: | ahh do you have the TVOverscan section enabled in your corg.conf? |
| [21:21:00] | Beirdo: | corg? |
| [21:21:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:21:00] | Juski: | xorg.conf lol |
| [21:21:00] | Beirdo: | corgi.conf... almost royal, that |
| [21:21:00] | bradd: | no i dont |
| [21:21:00] | Juski: | I suggest you (ahem) google for "nvidia tv out linux" |
| [21:22:00] | bradd: | i have |
| [21:22:00] | Juski: | or read the rather verbose documentation nvidia provide in the driver readme files |
| [21:26:00] | Juski: | there's plenty of info if you google.. I just saw loads of helpful stuff – like I did when I first started out configuring mine |
| [21:26:00] | Krazylegz: | Try Yahoo. |
| [21:26:00] | Krazylegz: | That's a joke, by the way. ;-) |
| [21:26:00] | Juski: | hey look: ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7676/README.txt |
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| [21:30:00] | smoke_: | hi guys, do any of you know where i can find where the keyboard/lirc input events are located in the source? |
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| [21:41:00] | bradd: | there is no information in the nvidia readme regarding my problem |
| [21:42:00] | supa_user: | anyone here use the plextor convertx as a source? |
| [21:46:00] | mchou: | now that's some weird shit...... |
| [21:47:00] | mchou: | stupid ivtv |
| [21:47:00] | Juski: | bradd – I told you already there's no way to centre the TV out if it's off-centre |
| [21:47:00] | Juski: | in the window$ driver you can adjust every damned thing, but sadly not in the linux one |
| [21:48:00] | Juski: | I tried xvidtune.. everything |
| [21:49:00] | Juski: | you **could** always try making a true PAL or NTSC modeline to see if that helps.. but then you're counting on the driver not spitting it out |
| [21:51:00] | smoke_: | what video formats does mythvideo support? |
| [21:51:00] | smoke_: | xvid/divx what else? |
| [21:52:00] | Juski: | depends on what player you use, I'd have thought, smoke_ |
| [21:52:00] | smoke_: | Juski, oh ... k |
| [21:52:00] | Juski: | mplayer supports just about every format going |
| [21:53:00] | smoke_: | yeah nm :) |
| [21:53:00] | smoke_: | i just thought maybe there was a filter with the viewer |
| [21:53:00] | smoke_: | hey, any of you guys familiar with setting up lirc? |
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| [21:54:00] | smoke_: | i dont get the difference between the lirc.conf and the lircrc file... |
| [21:54:00] | smoke_: | i kinda get the lirc.conf file is for the actual remote and what ir signal it sends, but in lircrc is that for myth? or is that for lirc? |
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| [21:56:00] | Juski: | well one file is to configure how the lirc daemon treats the IR signals it receives |
| [21:56:00] | Juski: | and the other is to configure lirc which buttons do what |
| [21:56:00] | mchou: | this is the weirdest shit. |
| [21:57:00] | mchou: | different versions of ivtv gives me different video and audio quality..... |
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| [21:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | mchou: maybe one is sending different parameters to the tuner so the signal is not as precise for one of them ? |
| [21:59:00] | Juski: | fack... just emerged apache & there's no conf directory in /etc/apache2.. grrrrrr |
| [22:00:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: I dont really know what's going on..... |
| [22:00:00] | smoke_: | Juski, /etc/conf.d/apache |
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| [22:01:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: all I know it's definitely screwed up. |
| [22:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [22:02:00] | simon_c: | Hi all. Anyone had any luck getting myth (well, linux actually) to use the TV out on a Dell CPi series laptop ? It's a strange, almost svideo cable, and I don't really want to track down a cable if it's a waste of time. |
| [22:02:00] | mchou: | with 3.8 w/ one of my cards I had to use audio input 1 (audio in), and 4.0 w/ one of my cards I had to use audio input 0 (Tuner audio) |
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| [22:03:00] | mchou: | whole thing makes no sense..... |
| [22:04:00] | mchou: | simon_c: you need to describe the symptoms better for us to hgelp. |
| [22:04:00] | mchou: | help* |
| [22:04:00] | simon_c: | mchou: :-) |
| [22:05:00] | simon_c: | I've an old dell CPi series laptop. Which I'd like to use as a front end and send the out put to the TV. It has a TV connector on the side, that is almost like svideo, but not. |
| [22:05:00] | mchou: | Does the plug have a lable on it? |
| [22:06:00] | simon_c: | I'd like to know if anyone knows if it's possable to get linux to use this output, before I go to the hassle (and probably spend a few quid) of getting a cable. |
| [22:06:00] | mchou: | label* |
| [22:06:00] | simon_c: | it has an icon of a square, ith a V above it (kind of like a TV) and an arrow leaving it. |
| [22:08:00] | Criggie: | simon_c: yeah I got a CPx |
| [22:08:00] | mchou: | simon_c: what does the manual say that port is good for? |
| [22:08:00] | Criggie: | simon_c: its probably a p3 at 500ish MHz |
| [22:08:00] | Criggie: | ? |
| [22:08:00] | Cardoe: | simon_c: it's getting X to work |
| [22:08:00] | Criggie: | will it have the balls to be a front-end ? |
| [22:09:00] | Cardoe: | simon_c: that's the only part |
| [22:09:00] | simon_c: | mocker: Manual ?? On something this old ??? Ha. Well, I might be able to find it on dell's website :-) |
| [22:09:00] | Cardoe: | simon_c: what video card do you have? |
| [22:09:00] | Cardoe: | simon_c: you should have an S-Video connector with extra pins |
| [22:09:00] | Cardoe: | simon_c: that's how all laptops are. |
| [22:09:00] | Criggie: | simon_c: I believe that socket has pins for composite out and svhs out |
| [22:09:00] | mchou: | simon_c: sure you would. |
| [22:09:00] | Cardoe: | simon_c: the extra pins are for composite (RCA) output |
| [22:09:00] | Criggie: | simon_c: or it might be the other svhs that separates RGB into separate lines |
| [22:09:00] | simon_c: | Cardoe: It's actally only a P2, but it does playback on the internal screen well enough. |
| [22:10:00] | Cardoe: | there's a special S-Video like cable that basically has an S-Video end on it but it connects to the pins to use RCA |
| [22:10:00] | simon_c: | Criggie/Cardoe Thanks. |
| [22:10:00] | Criggie: | simon_c: fair enough. before you get too far into it – find out how much a cheap AGP card with TV out will cost. would |
| [22:10:00] | Cardoe: | Criggie: it's laptop |
| [22:10:00] | Cardoe: | not a desktop |
| [22:11:00] | Cardoe: | simon_c: it'll work displaying out to the TV |
| [22:11:00] | simon_c: | Criggie: Trouble is, I have no box small enough to put in the space with an AGP slot. And a budget so close to 0 as to make no odds. |
| [22:11:00] | simon_c: | but lots of old hardware :-/ |
| [22:11:00] | Cardoe: | simon_c: basically check the BIOS |
| [22:11:00] | simon_c: | Cardoe: Thanks |
| [22:11:00] | Cardoe: | simon_c: plug the cable in |
| [22:11:00] | Cardoe: | turn on the lapto |
| [22:11:00] | Cardoe: | close the lid |
| [22:11:00] | Cardoe: | the TV should start showing the console |
| [22:11:00] | Cardoe: | and when X starts, it'll display there |
| [22:12:00] | simon_c: | Cardoe: Brill. |
| [22:12:00] | simon_c: | "close the lid" :-/ |
| [22:12:00] | simon_c: | so I need to track down a keyboard too. Ahh well. |
| [22:12:00] | Cardoe: | Might not be necessary to close the lid |
| [22:12:00] | Cardoe: | if you configure the BIOS correctly. |
| [22:12:00] | simon_c: | Cardoe: OK. |
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| [22:13:00] | Cardoe: | Basically if you set it to use both |
| [22:13:00] | Cardoe: | and if you're gonna use this as a frontend |
| [22:13:00] | Cardoe: | well then it has to have a network connection |
| [22:13:00] | Cardoe: | just use SSH |
| [22:13:00] | Cardoe: | you might not even have to play with the BIOS |
| [22:13:00] | Cardoe: | blue Fn keys |
| [22:13:00] | simon_c: | Cardoe: It's for the other half to use. Has to be as simple as possable. :-) |
| [22:13:00] | Cardoe: | might have one called CRT/LCD |
| [22:13:00] | simon_c: | Cardoe: Yep, I got ya,. |
| [22:13:00] | Cardoe: | ok |
| [22:13:00] | Cardoe: | so go experiment |
| [22:14:00] | simon_c: | Track down a cable. first :-) |
| [22:14:00] | simon_c: | So, next question.... |
| [22:14:00] | simon_c: | When I start playback on this box, myth ends up in a window, shifted up by about 10–15 pixels. |
| [22:14:00] | simon_c: | Which is strange. |
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| [22:15:00] | Cardoe: | use a diff WM |
| [22:15:00] | Cardoe: | or configure yours not to do that |
| [22:15:00] | simon_c: | myth starts full screen, it's just when playback starts. |
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| [22:16:00] | Cardoe: | go through the playback setup |
| [22:16:00] | Cardoe: | there's a way to shift stuff down some pixels. |
| [22:16:00] | Cardoe: | I still think it's your WM |
| [22:16:00] | mchou: | go buy a cable already |
| [22:16:00] | mchou: | go to an electronics surplus place. shout charge you no more than $2 for that |
| [22:16:00] | mchou: | should* |
| [22:16:00] | simon_c: | I'll try a different one. I'm suing fvwm on this. |
| [22:17:00] | simon_c: | lol @ mchou. |
| [22:17:00] | simon_c: | mchou: You need a new keyboard, or new fingers ;) |
| [22:17:00] | simon_c: | dig around in some of the cable boxes at work first. |
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| [22:18:00] | mchou: | I need a new inet connection |
| [22:18:00] | mchou: | stupid comcast. |
| [22:20:00] | mchou: | inet keeps going on and off. |
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| [22:20:00] | simon_c: | Cardoe: I think you're right. Moved it down 10 pixels, and it showd the window borders at the top. Thanks again ! |
| [22:22:00] | Cardoe: | yep |
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| [22:33:00] | laga: | nice. i've just fired up k3b on my TV because vnc dislikes me and it's quite usable. |
| [22:33:00] | laga: | when i'd want to add custom entries to the menu, i should copy the corresponding xml-files to ~/.mythtv, right? |
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| [22:38:00] | deego: | hi, I have finally decided to take this plunge.. Is this a decent system to buy: |
| [22:38:00] | deego: | http://205.147.44.194/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=85 SolarPC SP212 PVR |
| [22:38:00] | deego: | with accessories/addons in mind.. wil i be able to make remote control, etc. work? |
| [22:38:00] | deego: | (am a decent debian user) |
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| [22:40:00] | deego: | Else what do you all recommend? Looking for pre-assembled hardware if possible.. willing to install software as needed, (strongly preferring debian or knoppix, just because am comfortable with it) |
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| [22:40:00] | deego: | Saw Dragon, but that thing is 1.7K!? |
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| [22:48:00] | Juski: | deego – it's either spendy spendy big money money or DIY ;) |
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| [22:50:00] | deego: | Juski: well, what about SolarPC SP212 PVR that is only $400? that's my Q.. any comments on that one before i buy it? |
| [22:50:00] | CanadaBoy: | im running fc2 with a pvr350 ... running great... i just bought a pvr150. Looks like i have ivtv-firmware-2.02.023–3.at and kernel-module-ivtv-2.6.8–1.521–0.1.10–45_pre2_ck108k.rhfc2.at what are the odds that the pvr150 will work without me updating my drivers? |
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| [22:51:00] | deego: | CanadaBoy: newbie here.. May I ask: Did you set up your own hardware or buy something (what?) pre-built? |
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| [22:54:00] | FunkyELF: | all I am getting back is 401 unauthorized when I try to run mythfilldatabase |
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| [22:57:00] | FunkyELF: | anyone else ever have that problem? |
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| [23:00:00] | CanadaBoy: | deego: did it myself ... |
| [23:00:00] | CanadaBoy: | but was a while ago and i've never updated a driver |
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| [23:00:00] | CanadaBoy: | anyone? |
| [23:02:00] | deego: | CanadaBoy: thx |
| [23:02:00] | FunkyELF: | hrm...I seem to have gotten the mythfilldatabase running. How many times will it go and download stuff? I see it downloaded all for Thursday Sep 29 at different offsets. What are offsets? |
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| [23:07:00] | FunkyELF: | it seems like it is downloading old stuff |
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| [23:10:00] | CanadaBoy: | hey NightMonkey |
| [23:11:00] | CanadaBoy: | thanks for the help last night :_P |
| [23:14:00] | NightMonkey: | CanadaBoy: No problem. Hope it worked out. |
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| [23:14:00] | CanadaBoy: | well not just yet ... but im working on it ... |
| [23:15:00] | CanadaBoy: | might have found what version im running ... of ivtv .. but maybey not .. |
| [23:15:00] | Juski: | damn this freakin gentoo pile of steaming shite! |
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| [23:15:00] | CanadaBoy: | i am using wilsotnet's custom kernel |
| [23:16:00] | CanadaBoy: | ivtv-firmware-2.02.023–3 mean anything to you? |
| [23:17:00] | NightMonkey: | CanadaBoy: Are you talking to me? |
| [23:17:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: What's wrong? |
| [23:17:00] | CanadaBoy: | ya or anyone who is listening ... lol |
| [23:18:00] | ** NightMonkey thinks somafm is grooving today. ** | |
| [23:19:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Why'd you break your Gentoo? ;) |
| [23:19:00] | FunkyELF: | does anyone here have a PVR500 MCE ? |
| [23:19:00] | Juski: | it's my spare box.. trying to get apache working.. everything I know about it (from previous installs) is now wrong |
| [23:20:00] | Urgo: | FunkyELF: yeah just got it yesterday and having a hard time installing it... |
| [23:20:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: You mean you're using the new apache config layout? |
| [23:20:00] | Urgo: | FunkyELF: right now I have it installed and all but I only get static.. |
| [23:21:00] | Juski: | NightMonkey: yes |
| [23:21:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Yeah, I was dreading upgrading my servers for a while. But, once I did it, things make a bit more sense, in my opinion. |
| [23:21:00] | CanadaBoy: | NightMonkey: so does that mean anything to you? |
| [23:21:00] | Urgo: | also getting "tuner: tuner type not set" but it detects it as type 57 earlier.. |
| [23:21:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Just remember to turn on lots of stuffs in /etc/conf.d/apache2 via "-D ..." |
| [23:21:00] | NightMonkey: | CanadaBoy: Nope, not really. |
| [23:21:00] | Urgo: | FunkyELF: whats your problem with it? :) |
| [23:22:00] | CanadaBoy: | NightMonkey: ok thanks |
| [23:22:00] | Juski: | I've tried with vhosts enabled, without it enabled.. I think the problem stems from my machine not having a domain name |
| [23:22:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Just give it "localhost", then? But, name-based virtual hosts need a resolveable DNS name, IIRC. |
| [23:23:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: If you are just testing from the same host, then /etc/hosts should be enough. |
| [23:23:00] | Juski: | I don't even need vhosts |
| [23:23:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Did you unset "vhosts" USE flag? |
| [23:23:00] | CanadaBoy: | NightMonkey: what about pre2_ck108k? |
| [23:23:00] | NightMonkey: | CanadaBoy: Nope. |
| [23:23:00] | xris: | NightMonkey: no. only the client needs to care. hosts entries work fine for vhosts |
| [23:23:00] | Juski: | ahhh.. I didn't unset the USE flag I didn't know about |
| [23:23:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [23:24:00] | CanadaBoy: | ha ha can't catcha break tonight |
| [23:24:00] | FunkyELF: | Urgo, I'm wondering how to set it up....I heard somewhere that they are both supposed to be Tuner0 |
| [23:24:00] | xris: | client resolves the ip, tells teh server that it wants "example.com" in the query, and the server parses it accordingly. |
| [23:24:00] | Urgo: | FunkyELF: I used http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_PVR_500_Setup baseline, but by no means is it complete :) |
| [23:25:00] | NightMonkey: | xris: You're right. Forgot that the client request header is what does the magic. |
| [23:25:00] | Urgo: | FunkyELF: I still haven't seen any tv coming from my card so I can't say for sure, but thats what that guide says, tuner0 for both.. |
| [23:26:00] | Juski: | I like progress.. but I'm sorry if I have to keep abreast of every last package's development just to do basic configuration |
| [23:26:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Yeah, then do an "emerge --newuse -puDv world" and see what's gonna get blasted, er, I mean, rebuilt. |
| [23:26:00] | Juski: | this is a new install, NK |
| [23:26:00] | Juski: | *NightMonkey |
| [23:26:00] | ** MrSpiffy just mentioned putting mythtv in the fedora-extras package on #fedora ** | |
| [23:27:00] | MrSpiffy: | it was a mistake |
| [23:27:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Problem was Gentoo's old apache config way was pretty different than just about every other distro... |
| [23:27:00] | Juski: | like this time around mythtv didn't have a dependency for xmltv.. didn't find that out til mythtv-setup farted |
| [23:28:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Bug Cardoe about that one. |
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| [23:28:00] | Juski: | I did emerge mythtv mythmusic mythvideo mythdvd mythweb and just left it to simmer |
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| [23:30:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Hmm, so if you are doing a new install, how did you know that your apache was b0rked? |
| [23:30:00] | Juski: | because I configured it exactly the same way as my other box – the main mythbackend machine.. and it didn't worl |
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| [23:30:00] | Juski: | *work |
| [23:30:00] | Peit|home: | has anyone else seen/heard reports of mythtvbackend crashing ehwn a recording that is on a backend is deleted |
| [23:31:00] | Juski: | this is a spare machine I'm gonna use as a test system |
| [23:31:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: So, that doesn't explain why you wouldn't rebuild with "emerge --newuse -puDv world"... Am I missing something? |
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| [23:31:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: (after you change the USE flag, that is) |
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| [23:32:00] | Juski: | NightMonkey.. i've changed the USE flag to say -vhosts and am re-emerging apache |
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| [23:32:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: I always check what else (like dependencies) would be affected by USE flag changes, to make sure I don't get weird linking errors or some such. |
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| [23:33:00] | Juski: | there's also a broken dep. for mod_php |
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| [23:33:00] | Juski: | I'd like to be able to remember which it is, but I have more pressing issues right now |
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| [23:34:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Hmm... if mod_php is busted, your apache might not work... |
| [23:34:00] | Juski: | and I've tried reporting said kind of problems before – never heard anything back so now don't bother |
| [23:34:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Where? #gentoo-apache? |
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| [23:34:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Or bugzilla? |
| [23:34:00] | kormoc: | mod_php is no longer a package |
| [23:35:00] | NightMonkey: | kormoc: dev-php/mod_php-4.4.0-r3? |
| [23:35:00] | Juski: | ahh maybe I made the mistake of posting it where nobody looks.. the gentoo-portage users comments |
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| [23:35:00] | kormoc: | dev-lang/php with use flag of +cgi is the new way |
| [23:35:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Ah, the forums? |
| [23:36:00] | kormoc: | NightMonkey, dev-php/mod_php and dev-php/php was merged into dev-lang/php |
| [23:36:00] | Juski: | no, the 'comments' pages on www.gentoo-portage.com or whatever it is |
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| [23:36:00] | NightMonkey: | kormoc: For stable-x86? |
| [23:36:00] | kormoc: | Juski, that's not even run by gentoo |
| [23:36:00] | kormoc: | NightMonkey, I beleive so, might be wrong tho |
| [23:36:00] | Juski: | arse.. lol |
| [23:36:00] | Juski: | well it was ever such a long time ago |
| [23:36:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Oh, never heard of that site. |
| [23:36:00] | Juski: | and now I know better I won't be using Gentoo for a new install again |
| [23:37:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: The folks in #gentoo-apache are pretty friendly. |
| [23:37:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Wow, burned by using the wrong site to report problems... |
| [23:37:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: But, to each their own. |
| [23:37:00] | kormoc: | forums.gentoo.org is really great as well |
| [23:38:00] | Juski: | NightMonkey.. I saw that other people had posted problems they had there, so just assumed... |
| [23:38:00] | Juski: | duh |
| [23:38:00] | Juski: | lesson learned etc |
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| [23:39:00] | Juski: | I suppose I'm just sitting here feeling pretty dumb about using a distro where everything has to be compiled when I could just use binaries... all I want is for stuff to work – never been bothered about gaining that extra 0.02% performance through optimising |
| [23:39:00] | NightMonkey: | kormoc: Yeah, I think the +cgi stuff is still masked unstable. So, I stick to Stable unless pressed. |
| [23:40:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: I don't really care that much about optmiziing, either. I just like Portage and the community. |
| [23:41:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: CFLAG boasting and wrestling is a time waster and pretty silly. |
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| [23:42:00] | Juski: | well, I know gentoo better than any other distro.. don't really want to spend another 10 months re-learning stuff |
| [23:42:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Tried the GRP or Stage 3 builds? Not as much complining... |
| [23:43:00] | NightMonkey: | er, compiling |
| [23:44:00] | Juski: | I'm on stage 3.. did a stage1 first time around... oh boy! |
| [23:44:00] | Juski: | argghh! [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts |
| [23:44:00] | kormoc: | I did a stage one way back when |
| [23:44:00] | kormoc: | havn't done any other install sense then |
| [23:44:00] | NightMonkey: | Juski: Join me on the #gentoo-apache channel, please? |
| [23:45:00] | Juski: | okees, NightMonkey |
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| [23:46:00] | Cardoe: | Juski: mythtv does have a depend on xmltv |
| [23:46:00] | Cardoe: | Juski: It's dep is on a properly configured wget or xmltv |
| [23:46:00] | ** [Klatuu] ponders how much more drive space to buy ** | |
| [23:46:00] | Cardoe: | if you turn on the right USE flag |
| [23:46:00] | Cardoe: | it'll always force it to pull in xmltv |
| [23:47:00] | Cardoe: | or just tell everyone to get DataDirect type service. |
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| [23:47:00] | [Klatuu]: | my terabyte is quickly becoming cramped |
| [23:47:00] | Cardoe: | And both of you need to quit breaking Apache |
| [23:47:00] | Cardoe: | it's not that hard |
| [23:47:00] | Cardoe: | really |
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| [23:53:00] | FunkyELF: | anyone here know what it takes to add another tv card (identical to the one you already have) to an existing system ? |
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| [23:55:00] | NightMonkey: | Cardoe: Me? My apache isn't broken. |
| [23:55:00] | NightMonkey: | apaches, I should say. |
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| [23:57:00] | poimen: | I have a Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder tvtuner card and Linux says it uses ivtv module but there is no /dev/created :( what should I do? |
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