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| [00:40:00] | Ronnie: | can anyone recommend a resolution/bitrate to use for transcoding... i'm aiming for decent quality, and about 600MB/hour |
| [00:43:00] | xris: | Ronnie: from within myth, or with nuvexport? |
| [00:44:00] | Ronnie: | i'd rather do it within myth... do the automatic transcode. I played around with it for a day without much success |
| [00:44:00] | patdk2: | ronnie, is that a real hour? or – commercials? |
| [00:45:00] | Ronnie: | real hour preferably |
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| [00:45:00] | Ronnie: | seems that i download 90 minute movies that are decent quality, and are around 600–700 MB in avi/mpg form |
| [00:46:00] | xris: | Ronnie: most downloaded stuff is around 624x468 at 960kbps |
| [00:46:00] | patdk2: | heh, that is cause you take along time to do it, but you save quality |
| [00:46:00] | xris: | which is exactly what nuvexport defaults to |
| [00:46:00] | patdk2: | I personally do, 720x480 at 1500kbps + 192kbps audio |
| [00:46:00] | Ronnie: | i wouldn't mind the transcoding taking a while.... thats fine |
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| [00:47:00] | Ronnie: | patdk2 how big is a half hour show file? |
| [00:47:00] | xris: | Ronnie: use nuvexport, send it to mythvideo, be happy... built-in stuff is nowhere near the quality that you can get with nuvexport (dunno why, since it's the same library with the same options) |
| [00:47:00] | patdk2: | well, two hours is 1.7gigs |
| [00:48:00] | Ronnie: | i'll check out nuvexport. thanks xris... |
| [00:50:00] | DarkBeer: | if I want to change the settings for live tv, would I do that under the default recording profile? want to see if I can address the slowness/jitter on things like football games |
| [00:51:00] | Juski: | DarkBeer – that'd be the need to deinterlace the video then |
| [00:52:00] | DarkBeer: | i thought deinterlace is supposed to be off on standard def tv |
| [00:52:00] | DarkBeer: | using a boring basic 27 inch tv |
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| [00:58:00] | Ronnie: | hey i'm looking around, but I can't find a good faq or documentation set on nuvexport. can anyone give me a link plz? |
| [00:58:00] | abarbaccia: | hey all – if im using a mATX MB, and single tuners, with an athalon chip under 3 GHz – should i go with the 240W PSU or the 300? |
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| [00:59:00] | Ronnie: | depends..... what kind of stuff is in the casE? |
| [00:59:00] | Ronnie: | how many HDDs? PCI cards, fans, etc |
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| [01:00:00] | Ronnie: | i'd take a good 240 over a bad 300 any day. i have a 250 powering my single HDD, single tuner box |
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| [01:28:00] | D-side: | howdy boys. |
| [01:28:00] | D-side: | now thats a hell of a names list. |
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| [01:30:00] | D-side: | maybe someone's seen the problem i'm having before. i've recently moved, and now i've got an entirely different cable provider. i've got the new channel data d/l'ed from datadirect (after using mythsetup to blow out the old config). the problem is, the channel names are incorrect. |
| [01:30:00] | D-side: | the channel number/name pairs match the old provider. |
| [01:32:00] | D-side: | i think i might shut the hell up now. |
| [01:32:00] | D-side: | all my yapping is likely for naught. ignore me. |
| [01:33:00] | Krazylegz: | You fixed it? |
| [01:33:00] | D-side: | it was never a problem, and i'm just unattentive. |
| [01:33:00] | D-side: | i was basing my statement on the recorded programs listed in the web gui. |
| [01:33:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah. |
| [01:33:00] | D-side: | these were shows that were recorded prior to the move, on the old carrier. |
| [01:34:00] | D-side: | so sure, they were recorded on whatever channel it was back then, and the channel data was saved. of course, that corresponds to new name data, and thats why i was stupid. |
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| [01:36:00] | Juski: | DarkBeer: you need to deinterlace SDTV, even to watch it on most TVs :-( (especially through TV outputs of graphics cards) |
| [01:37:00] | DarkBeer: | i'll give it a try, thanks. svideo out on a nvidia 5200 |
| [01:37:00] | DarkBeer: | it actually has been pretty decent other than football, and anything that scrolls |
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| [01:45:00] | Juski: | yeh DarkBeer.. that's because getting interlaced output to work on TV outputs is er... difficult to say the least |
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| [01:50:00] | redfox_away: | I just removed a bunch of channels from zap2it |
| [01:50:00] | redfox_away: | what is the myth-approved way to update my backend? |
| [01:50:00] | Krazylegz: | mythfilldatabase ? |
| [01:51:00] | redfox_away: | Krazylegz, will that remove the channels I don't want? |
| [01:51:00] | Krazylegz: | I believe so. |
| [01:51:00] | redfox_away: | ok I'll give it a whirl, thanks |
| [01:51:00] | ** Krazylegz hopes that someone smarter is listening ** | |
| [01:51:00] | redfox_away: | haha yeah I know that feeling |
| [01:51:00] | D-side: | maybe clear the channel db first? |
| [01:52:00] | Krazylegz: | I'm not sure if he has to do that, if he set things up in mythtv-setup. |
| [01:52:00] | Icks: | if you wipe the channel database it will update with what zap2it has for sure.. have done that a couple times |
| [01:52:00] | Juski: | it won't hurt to try that.. one of the few things that can't harm |
| [01:52:00] | redfox_away: | yeah I think I'll have to wipe the channel database... it is saying most of the data is up to date |
| [01:53:00] | redfox_away: | which table to I need to clear? |
| [01:53:00] | Icks: | you have to set your account up and, your cards i think.. 2nd one i think .. read them bolth it's clear |
| [01:54:00] | Icks: | channel settings.. |
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| [03:03:00] | poonj: | hey guys.. |
| [03:03:00] | poonj: | if I get a PVR-500, is there a remote for that? |
| [03:03:00] | poonj: | if not, is it possible to get a remote for it? |
| [03:03:00] | Krazylegz: | Depends on which version you get. |
| [03:03:00] | redfox_away: | I don't think the 500 has a remote option... check newegg |
| [03:03:00] | briand: | the PVR-500MCE (Media Center Edition) definitely does _not_ include a remote... |
| [03:04:00] | Krazylegz: | Isn't there a non-MCE model? |
| [03:04:00] | Krazylegz: | Looking on their page, maybe there isn't. |
| [03:04:00] | Krazylegz: | http://hauppauge.com/pages/compare_pvr.html |
| [03:04:00] | redfox_away: | yeah I think that is just for the 150s |
| [03:04:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, I mean a non-MCE PVR-500. |
| [03:04:00] | Krazylegz: | I guess you could always add a remote to the system. |
| [03:05:00] | poonj: | some type of ps2 device? |
| [03:07:00] | Krazylegz: | There are lots of remotes. |
| [03:09:00] | poonj: | that would work with myth? |
| [03:09:00] | poonj: | so if I get the windows mce certified remote.. |
| [03:09:00] | poonj: | it'd work? |
| [03:12:00] | redfox_away: | poonj, I'm using a serial port IR reader, it works with almost any remote |
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| [03:12:00] | redfox_away: | there are some listed on the lirc homepage |
| [03:12:00] | redfox_away: | there are also USB ones out there |
| [03:12:00] | poonj: | okay.. |
| [03:12:00] | poonj: | what are the mce based ones? |
| [03:12:00] | poonj: | serial? |
| [03:12:00] | poonj: | usb?> |
| [03:13:00] | redfox_away: | I'm not sure about the ones that come with the hauppage cards, the connect to the card I believe |
| [03:13:00] | poonj: | well |
| [03:13:00] | poonj: | for the PVR-500 |
| [03:13:00] | redfox_away: | but I've never used one |
| [03:13:00] | poonj: | it says it comes with a MCE certified remote.. |
| [03:13:00] | redfox_away: | ah well the input to the computer doesn't matter, use whatever works for you |
| [03:13:00] | Krazylegz: | The PVR-500 MCE does not come with a remote. |
| [03:14:00] | poonj: | there is a version that does |
| [03:14:00] | redfox_away: | poonj, link? |
| [03:15:00] | poonj: | http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/pages/products/data_pvr500mcekit.html |
| [03:15:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh, neat. |
| [03:15:00] | Krazylegz: | Then yes, there is a PVR-500 that comes with a remote. :-) |
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| [03:16:00] | redfox_away: | hrm... where does the IR receiver connect to? |
| [03:16:00] | poonj: | not sure...... |
| [03:16:00] | poonj: | thats what I'm trying to figure out |
| [03:17:00] | redfox_away: | well it doesn't say on the page |
| [03:17:00] | redfox_away: | and I don't see an input on the board |
| [03:18:00] | redfox_away: | so I would guess it is serial or USB... you can email them and ask |
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| [03:19:00] | poonj: | are there ps/2 remotes? |
| [03:19:00] | redfox_away: | not that I know of |
| [03:19:00] | redfox_away: | search on the lirc homepage to see if they support it |
| [03:24:00] | Juski: | you could use an infra-red wireless keyboard with a PS2 interface.. then teach a learning remote the keypresses :) |
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| [03:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | One of remotes works that way :) |
| [03:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | err one of my that is |
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| [03:28:00] | firefly2442: | does anyone know how to get around the dependency issues in ubuntu breezy? |
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| [04:35:00] | dft: | hmm, having tvout issues |
| [04:35:00] | dft: | just installed knopmyth |
| [04:35:00] | dft: | added all 3 tvout options to screen section in XF86Config-4 |
| [04:36:00] | dft: | using GeForce4 MX 440 with svideo out |
| [04:36:00] | dft: | the 8xAGP version |
| [04:36:00] | dft: | when I fire the system up I can see the post on the tv then the screen just goes black |
| [04:37:00] | dft: | any thoughts? |
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| [04:45:00] | redfox_away: | dft, I had similar problems |
| [04:45:00] | redfox_away: | there are a lot of good guides out there if you google |
| [04:45:00] | redfox_away: | but I'll post my x.conf, just a sec |
| [04:46:00] | redfox_away: | dft, http://pastebin.ca/24909 |
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| [05:00:00] | dft: | redfox: thnx, so far still no luck |
| [05:00:00] | redfox_away: | oh sad |
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| [05:00:00] | redfox_away: | does the console output to the tv? |
| [05:00:00] | redfox_away: | and just not X? |
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| [05:09:00] | abarbaccia: | hey is there any mythtv plugin to do streaming radio from the web? |
| [05:09:00] | abarbaccia: | because i think i might wanna write one if a few people could help me out |
| [05:09:00] | hadees: | abarbaccia, mythstream |
| [05:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | there is an unofficial mythstream that does that |
| [05:09:00] | abarbaccia: | hurm |
| [05:09:00] | abarbaccia: | how bootleg is it to be unofficial |
| [05:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's just not part of the main source or maintained by one of the devs |
| [05:10:00] | hadees: | abarbaccia, there are a few that are unoffical, but that one is mainly because it isn't where Chutt wanted it |
| [05:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've never actually seen it |
| [05:10:00] | hadees: | I have used it, not really that bad |
| [05:10:00] | patdk2: | I installed it butdoesn'twork for me yet |
| [05:10:00] | hadees: | i belive Chutt wanted streaming audio in mythmusic |
| [05:10:00] | hadees: | and streaming video in mythvideo |
| [05:11:00] | hadees: | something like that |
| [05:11:00] | abarbaccia: | so i think that action needs to be made on mythmusic then |
| [05:11:00] | abarbaccia: | geeze – that would be insane |
| [05:12:00] | hadees: | abarbaccia, just what i remember, you should ask Chutt for the real truth |
| [05:12:00] | hadees: | i could be wrong |
| [05:12:00] | redfox: | when running nuvexport-dvd, do I want to enable deinterlacing?? |
| [05:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | I wouldn't think so unless you were trying to make progressive scan dvd's |
| [05:15:00] | redfox: | alright thanks |
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| [05:23:00] | dberry: | is there any way to get my digital optical output of my cable box to be the audio source for mythtv? |
| [05:23:00] | Chutt: | someone's working on real streaming in mythmusic |
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| [05:23:00] | Chutt: | no more lameass separate plugin |
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| [05:36:00] | Phydoux: | Good evening all |
| [05:38:00] | Phydoux: | Question: I have a program that I recorded via a PVR-150, so it is in MPEG2 format. |
| [05:38:00] | Phydoux: | I then transcoded that recording to MPEG4. |
| [05:38:00] | Phydoux: | When I watch it on my TV it looks fine. |
| [05:38:00] | Phydoux: | When I watch that same recording on my Windows box via mythweb, the colors are washed out. |
| [05:38:00] | Phydoux: | Is this something anybody here has heard of? |
| [05:40:00] | sphing: | is it possible they have different versions of divx |
| [05:41:00] | Phydoux: | I suppose that it is possible. I'd have to check on that. |
| [05:41:00] | Phydoux: | On Linux it would be xvid, right? |
| [05:42:00] | Phydoux: | I do have the xvid codec installed on my Windows box but it is probably an older one... but when WMP comes up it seems to be using DivX, not Xvid. |
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| [05:46:00] | dberry: | anyone recommend an ir blaster setup for a motrola dtc2224? |
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| [06:00:00] | dft: | gawd, I'm sooo close to having this thing running |
| [06:01:00] | dft: | damn tv-out |
| [06:04:00] | Krazylegz: | Chutt: What was that in reference to? I use MythStream. |
| [06:04:00] | Chutt: | it was written wrong. |
| [06:04:00] | Chutt: | should have been integrated into mythmusic |
| [06:04:00] | Krazylegz: | Nevermind. I'm dumb. |
| [06:04:00] | Krazylegz: | I see now. |
| [06:04:00] | Krazylegz: | Sorry. |
| [06:04:00] | Krazylegz: | That would be nice, though. |
| [06:05:00] | Chutt: | someone's working on that, see the dev list |
| [06:05:00] | Chutt: | cuz, like |
| [06:05:00] | Krazylegz: | He could update the default list, too. None of them even worked for me. |
| [06:05:00] | Chutt: | when you go to play music |
| [06:05:00] | Chutt: | it shouldn't matter where the hell the music's coming from |
| [06:05:00] | Chutt: | it should all be in one interface |
| [06:05:00] | Krazylegz: | Like, for real. :-) |
| [06:06:00] | Chutt: | highly annoying that the guy who spent all that time on 'mythstream' didn't understand that |
| [06:06:00] | Krazylegz: | Indeed. |
| [06:07:00] | Chutt: | regarding the 'default list', i think that should be hosted on mythtv.org and re-downloaded periodically |
| [06:07:00] | Chutt: | (and allow user customization, of course) |
| [06:07:00] | Chutt: | that would be neeto |
| [06:07:00] | Chutt: | so it could be automatically updated |
| [06:07:00] | Krazylegz: | That would be hot. |
| [06:07:00] | Krazylegz: | I only have maybe two internet radio stations, though. |
| [06:08:00] | Chutt: | i don't listen to any =) |
| [06:08:00] | Krazylegz: | How selfless, then. :-) |
| [06:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | can you actually specify and aspect ratio value in an avi file or do players just calculate it based on the resolution ? |
| [06:09:00] | Chutt: | players calculate it based on the resolution, i believe |
| [06:09:00] | patdk2: | neither really |
| [06:10:00] | patdk2: | most players just use 1:1 or 4:3 and don't calc anything |
| [06:10:00] | Krazylegz: | Hmm. Eric. |
| [06:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | Chutt: Damn. |
| [06:10:00] | patdk2: | you have no idea how much fun I have trying to guess aspectratio for transcodin |
| [06:11:00] | patdk2: | if i's 1:1, ntsc 4:3 or 16:9, or pal 4:3 or 16:9 |
| [06:11:00] | patdk2: | or some other odd thing |
| [06:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've got a 544x480 4:3 mpeg I want to convert to a 544x480 4:3 xvid. But anytime I play the new xvid/avi players see it as 1.13:1 instead of 1.33:1 and it doesn't get scaled |
| [06:11:00] | Chutt: | err, if they didn't use the resolution, then lots of stuff wouldn't play properly. |
| [06:12:00] | patdk2: | grayfox, I think you will need to make that 640x480 |
| [06:12:00] | patdk2: | cause mpeg actually storesthe 4:3 |
| [06:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | patdk2: that's what I figured, I was hoping I could let the player handle it |
| [06:12:00] | syle: | mpegs always 4:3? |
| [06:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | syle: no |
| [06:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | It just happens to be in this case |
| [06:12:00] | patdk2: | but mpeg stores what the ratio is |
| [06:13:00] | syle: | i was wondering how i could convert my vob widescreens to 4:3 |
| [06:13:00] | patdk2: | syle, pan and scan, chop, or widescreen |
| [06:13:00] | patdk2: | those are the only options |
| [06:14:00] | syle: | i was watching a video while it was ripping and it was in english , when i went back again to watch it it was in french! |
| [06:14:00] | syle: | any ideas |
| [06:14:00] | patdk2: | heh, I have had that problem |
| [06:14:00] | patdk2: | watch a video |
| [06:15:00] | patdk2: | then halfway through, I realize it's not in english |
| [06:15:00] | syle: | doesnt; make much sense to me |
| [06:16:00] | patdk2: | heh, I was translating it in my head |
| [06:16:00] | syle: | its like it switches the audio stream at the end on me lol |
| [06:16:00] | patdk2: | though it was english, but it really was spanish |
| [06:16:00] | ** syle gives patdk2 another crack pipe ** | |
| [06:17:00] | patdk2: | heh |
| [06:19:00] | patdk2: | ok, I need to stop doing rm -rf /etc |
| [06:20:00] | awstott: | do rm -rf / instead :P |
| [06:20:00] | ** GreyFoxx fires off another nice'd transcode ** | |
| [06:23:00] | ** patdk2 does a restore from yesterday ** | |
| [06:24:00] | Phydoux: | exit |
| [06:24:00] | Phydoux: | Whoops :) |
| [06:24:00] | Phydoux: | Bye guys |
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| [06:28:00] | Cagochi: | I'm trying to emerge twm for gentoo so that my mythtv doesn't need to load xorgx11. Has anybody else done it this way? For some reason, gentoo/portage won't let me emerge twm. the error message is that xorg-x11 is blocking it. |
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| [06:35:00] | rage-: | is it possible to tune to audio channels that have no video feeds with myth? every time I try I get "channel X is off-air" and it kicks me back to my previous channel |
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| [07:05:00] | rage-: | is it possible to tune to audio channels that have no video feeds with myth? every time I try I get "channel X is off-air" and it kicks me back to my previous channel |
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| [07:11:00] | simcop2387: | AHHH i've got the pvr150mce audio bug!!! |
| [07:11:00] | awstott: | hmm... I can't get my frontend to connect to the back end... I Think it might just be an ip address issue but we'll see... |
| [07:12:00] | awstott: | at least i got everything up and running... furthest i've ever gotten b4 |
| [07:12:00] | awstott: | hehe |
| [07:12:00] | awstott: | even able to browse the guide :) |
| [07:14:00] | [Klatuu]: | lucky you |
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| [07:16:00] | awstott: | abarbaccia's guide is pretty sweet |
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| [09:50:00] | PaulWay: | Hi! |
| [09:50:00] | PaulWay: | I've got a separate myth frontend but it doesn't show the 'Watch Recordings' or 'Listen To Music' options that the frontend on the backend does. |
| [09:50:00] | PaulWay: | Is there some trick to setting this up? |
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| [09:53:00] | PaulWay: | Is anyone even awake here? |
| [09:53:00] | PaulWay: | :-) |
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| [12:33:00] | devil_: | anybody in here? |
| [12:33:00] | devil_: | any hamstas around? |
| [12:34:00] | devil_: | will try later |
| [12:34:00] | laga: | hehe |
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| [12:35:00] | juski_asleep: | hamstas? |
| [12:35:00] | juski_asleep: | w t f? |
| [12:35:00] | laga: | we've got a hamstaman in #mythtv-de |
| [12:35:00] | juski_asleep: | ahhh |
| [12:36:00] | juski_asleep: | thought I was in the wrong channel for a sec |
| [12:36:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [12:40:00] | juski_asleep: | how's laga been this week then? |
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| [12:41:00] | laga: | fine, i believe. and what cruelties did you have to experience? |
| [12:42:00] | juski: | I finished that damn holiday video yesterday (yay!).. turns out that Vegas puts fields in the wrong order when you reverse a clip – not good for interlaced material |
| [12:42:00] | juski: | other than that it was good |
| [12:43:00] | laga: | hehe, nice. now you've finally got time to mess witzh mythtv again, huh? ;) |
| [12:45:00] | juski: | yep – once this pesky distro is back on my spare machine... I tried ubuntu but didn't find it to my liking. the masochist in me wanted gentoo back |
| [12:48:00] | laga: | same for me. i just dont like ubuntu. |
| [12:48:00] | laga: | although i dig debian and i like gnome |
| [12:48:00] | laga: | i'm currently emerging vmware on my laptop. i got a nice long-term evaluation serial. vmware 4.5 for free for one year :) |
| [12:50:00] | juski: | oooo |
| [12:52:00] | laga: | http://www.vmware.com/de/download/ws45_eval.html <- although it's possible that only readers of this computer mag are allowed to participate |
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| [12:54:00] | juski: | I'm gonna have my hands full enough I think laga |
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| [12:55:00] | laga: | juski: hehe ;) |
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| [13:05:00] | Cagochi: | What is the audio output device for ALSA? |
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| [13:34:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | so...anyone have any knowledge of avermedia ultratv usb cards? |
| [13:35:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | it looks like it is a bt-derived chip... |
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| [14:13:00] | stephan__: | Hi all |
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| [14:33:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | hello |
| [14:35:00] | juski: | Aji-Dahaka... linux support of USB tv devices is limited |
| [14:36:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | juski: :( that's too bad |
| [14:36:00] | juski: | always best to do your research before buying hardware ;) |
| [14:36:00] | juski: | when you say 'bt derived' chip what is it? |
| [14:36:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | was in an hurry, had 3 days before I had to be back in Japan |
| [14:36:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | bt8x8, it appears |
| [14:37:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | wish there were a good way to tell that didn't void warranty |
| [14:37:00] | juski: | the important part for you will be which chip it uses for the usb bridge |
| [14:38:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | any good way to tell that? |
| [14:38:00] | juski: | what does lsusb say? |
| [14:38:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | I did lsusb -v, but the output was ... cryptic and lang |
| [14:38:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | long* |
| [14:38:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | would you like me to pastebin it for you? |
| [14:38:00] | juski: | good plan |
| [14:39:00] | ** Aji-Dahaka boots the machine...just a moment ** | |
| [14:40:00] | juski: | just out of curiosity why did you buy USB? is it for a laptop? |
| [14:40:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | yeah |
| [14:40:00] | juski: | usb2? |
| [14:40:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | it seems to work well enough in win32, but I hadn't realised there was so little support for usb tuners in lin |
| [14:40:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | yeah, usb2 |
| [14:41:00] | juski: | is the video device usb2 aswell? |
| [14:41:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | video device? |
| [14:41:00] | juski: | the Tv thing.. is that USB2 compliant? |
| [14:41:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | yeah, the box is usb2 |
| [14:42:00] | juski: | so it'll be worth bothering with, then :) |
| [14:43:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | juski: it really is pretty nice except for the win dependence it adds |
| [14:43:00] | juski: | nobody likes being dependent on that OS |
| [14:44:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | I usually avoid it. My professors said to watch more TV, though |
| [14:44:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | the tv tuners here are all 200USD and up |
| [14:44:00] | juski: | in Japan? |
| [14:44:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | got this thing on newegg for 80 or so |
| [14:44:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | yeah |
| [14:44:00] | juski: | I would have thought it'd be a lot cheaper |
| [14:44:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | tv tuners are oddly very expensive here |
| [14:45:00] | juski: | I suppose importing from taiwan isn't much of an option either |
| [14:50:00] | juski: | how's that pastebin coming along, Aji-Dahaka? |
| [14:50:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | juski: had to recompile kernel, but done now...sorry for the delaf |
| [14:50:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | delay |
| [14:51:00] | juski: | I've got some recompilation to do today... alsa isn't working on my spare machine |
| [14:51:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | http://cerberus.cs.und.edu/lsusb.out |
| [14:51:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | there you go |
| [14:51:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | forgot my vmware ethernet drivers |
| [14:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | You are attempting to use that usb tuner under vmware ? |
| [14:53:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | GreyFoxx: I was trying to use it natively...just used vmware to get the lsusb output I'd forgotten to save |
| [14:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | ic |
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| [14:54:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | I imagine it will work in vmware if it works otherwise, though |
| [14:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've never attempted to use a usb device under vmware. But anytime you put an emulator layer between you and the hardware I can just imagine some issues |
| [14:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | but like I said I've never tried it either |
| [14:56:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | GreyFoxx: well, it's not bad, vmware has a pass-through interface where it passes _all_ of the usb signals through |
| [14:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nifty. I use vmware all the time but never had reason to use it with a usb device |
| [14:57:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | I also never/almost never do |
| [14:57:00] | laga: | when i tried it, vmware wouldnt work with my webcam because it didnt support bidirectional communication |
| [14:58:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | wonder if the newer vmwares have fixed that? |
| [14:58:00] | laga: | i dont know, sorry |
| [14:59:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | juski: find anything useful? |
| [14:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | Anyone offhand know what tool I can use to extract the video only portion out of an avi ? It seems like everything I find is centered around ripping the audio only |
| [14:59:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: extract the audio stream and create a diff? SCNR ;) |
| [14:59:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | GreyFoxx: mplayer? |
| [14:59:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: maybw avidemux2? i don't know |
| [15:00:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | if you do -ao null, the output should be soundless |
| [15:00:00] | Skaface: | i think it says on vmware.com that webcams work with version 5 |
| [15:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | I was hoping I could use one of the transcode utils but so far haven't gotten that to work |
| [15:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | Aji-Dahaka: To rip it to a file? I'm not looking to play it |
| [15:00:00] | juski: | Aji – I think the OVCam drivers support your device – not 100% sure |
| [15:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | just want to seperate the streams |
| [15:00:00] | laga: | Skaface: nice |
| [15:01:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | GreyFoxx: mplayer (mencoder) can output to file |
| [15:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: That might do it. I'll have to install it and give it a shot :) |
| [15:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes, but will it let me extract it without processing it? If so I suppose I could do the same with transcode or mencoder |
| [15:02:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | juski: ovcam doesn't handle tuners, though? |
| [15:02:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | GreyFoxx: good question...I'm always or almost always changing formats, too |
| [15:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | In this case the video is exactly as I want it. I just wanna remove the audio :) |
| [15:05:00] | juski: | not looking hopeful, Aji I'm afraid :( |
| [15:05:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | juski: I was afraid of that... |
| [15:06:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | juski: Win32 it is, then :( |
| [15:06:00] | juski: | anyway even if a webcam driver worked with it, mythtv couldn't use it AFAIK |
| [15:07:00] | juski: | if the device was a DVB-T tuner it'd be a different matter of course |
| [15:07:00] | laga: | juski: i think it's video 4 linux. |
| [15:08:00] | laga: | it's just a matter of changing the channel |
| [15:08:00] | laga: | maybe you can use the external channel changing script functionality here. |
| [15:09:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | hmm... |
| [15:10:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | pci ones surely are a lot simpler |
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| [15:14:00] | juski: | http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=2927 |
| [15:14:00] | juski: | there's the answer from avermedia themselves... |
| [15:15:00] | juski: | and here: http://www.linux-projects.org/modules/mydownl . . . at.php?cid=6 |
| [15:16:00] | ** Aji-Dahaka reads ** | |
| [15:16:00] | juski: | promising, but still not looking too hopeful... http://www.linux-projects.org/downloads/dc11x0.txt |
| [15:20:00] | juski: | but at least it's v4l2 compliant, if it ever reaches a public release |
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| [15:22:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | wonder if anyone has leaked it |
| [15:23:00] | juski: | looks like that linuxprojects.org like people to donate hardware to them, and their authors want money for developing the drivers |
| [15:24:00] | juski: | which is a fine 'thankyou very much' isn't it? |
| [15:24:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | rather |
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| [15:25:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | oh, this is a different product... |
| [15:25:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | this is the avertv usb 2.0 as opposed to the ultratv usb 300 |
| [15:25:00] | juski: | that's the one I was searching on.. the avertv usb 2.0 because thats what your lsusb said |
| [15:25:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | though I'm not sure how different they are, they definitely seem to have different device ID |
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| [15:33:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | looks like maybe a lost cause for now :( |
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| [15:36:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | rather too bad, though, as all of the TV interfaces for Linux are better than what they provided |
| [15:36:00] | juski: | bit of a catch-22 situation really... there's not likely to be anyone writes a driver without demand for it, but if it doesn't work in linux who will buy it... |
| [15:36:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | and being in win32 is generally pretty painful |
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| [15:37:00] | Aji-Dahaka: | yeah, and while i've written drivers, v4l and related are nowhere near my area |
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| [16:17:00] | foobum: | does anyone else get occasional 'crackly' playback from mythmusic? |
| [16:17:00] | foobum: | it seems to depend on the file but happens both mp3s and oggs |
| [16:17:00] | foobum: | th bass seems to cause nasty digital clipping |
| [16:18:00] | foobum: | (im using a digital out) |
| [16:19:00] | foobum: | xmms plays the same files fine |
| [16:20:00] | foobum: | or.. |
| [16:21:00] | foobum: | is it possible to set ivtv controls permanentely (brightness,etc) – they appear to get reset with each playback |
| [16:21:00] | foobum: | alternatively, can i set them at the start of new recording / playback? |
| [16:24:00] | Rince: | hmm |
| [16:24:00] | Rince: | question: |
| [16:24:00] | Rince: | AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, 16 bit (0x10), ratio: 48000->192000 (384,0 kbit) |
| [16:24:00] | Rince: | isn't that the audio-description for DVDs? |
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| [16:52:00] | CanadaBoy: | can anyone tell me the difference between pvr350 and 150? |
| [16:52:00] | opello: | the 350 has a hardware decoder |
| [16:55:00] | dev-: | and hardware encoder |
| [16:55:00] | dev-: | 150 hardware encode? |
| [16:55:00] | dev-: | or is that just the 250 |
| [16:55:00] | opello: | yeah |
| [16:55:00] | opello: | all 3 have hardware encoders |
| [16:55:00] | dev-: | whats the difference between the 150 and 250? |
| [16:56:00] | opello: | just the hardware i think |
| [16:56:00] | dev-: | interesting |
| [16:59:00] | CanadaBoy: | ha ... we |
| [16:59:00] | CanadaBoy: | well i wonder how a 150 compares toa 250 quality wise |
| [17:01:00] | CanadaBoy: | darn they don't have the 2 compared on they site ... |
| [17:03:00] | opello: | someone else here that's used both would probably be able to tell you, i have a pvr-500, which is pretty much 2 150s on the same board, and i like its quality |
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| [17:14:00] | NightBird: | I've heard the 250 is higher quality then the 150, but I'm fine with the quality of my 150 |
| [17:19:00] | patdk2: | 150 is higher quality |
| [17:19:00] | patdk2: | it has filters that the 250 doesn't have |
| [17:25:00] | NightBird: | hm... |
| [17:25:00] | NightBird: | pvr 150 or just 150? |
| [17:25:00] | NightBird: | I've heard that the pvr 150 is alot better then the original 150 |
| [17:29:00] | opello: | i just thought they were pvr150 and pvr150mce |
| [17:30:00] | NightBird: | er.. |
| [17:30:00] | NightBird: | yeah |
| [17:30:00] | NightBird: | mce |
| [17:30:00] | NightBird: | sorry |
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| [17:36:00] | CanadaBoy: | so the pvr150 is better then the 250? |
| [17:36:00] | NightBird: | dunno |
| [17:37:00] | NightBird: | maybe |
| [17:37:00] | CanadaBoy: | hmmm |
| [17:37:00] | laga: | it's cheaper and newer |
| [17:38:00] | NightBird: | the cheaper thing is nice |
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| [17:41:00] | CanadaBoy: | http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/compare_pvr.html |
| [17:42:00] | CanadaBoy: | low cost design |
| [17:50:00] | CanadaBoy: | hmmm' |
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| [17:54:00] | CanadaBoy: | patdk2? |
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| [18:02:00] | CanadaBoy: | says same quality as pvr250 |
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| [18:46:00] | NightBird: | hm... |
| [18:46:00] | NightBird: | dang |
| [18:46:00] | NightBird: | a stack overflow... |
| [18:47:00] | ** NightBird ponders how to redo this to avoid the stack overflow then... ** | |
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| [19:10:00] | Servo888: | Ok just purchased a wintv pvr 150 lp – I'm curious as to the current support for the card. |
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| [19:14:00] | Servo888: | And of course the ivtv's maillist search is broken so I can't even search for bugs... |
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| [19:30:00] | mchou: | Servo888: should work..... |
| [19:30:00] | mchou: | use 3.8 |
| [19:45:00] | Servo888: | ok – good to hear. |
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| [19:55:00] | patdk2: | heh, I use 0.3.9 |
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| [20:05:00] | juski: | here I go then... starting work on the mega mega mega mega FAQ |
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| [20:24:00] | Rince: | hi xris |
| [20:25:00] | Rince: | xris: Beirdo asked me to tell you that I found the nuvexport-problem on amd64. With the current cvs-version, you just have to remove the "-hq"-switch from ffmpeg.pm (line 149) to create good results |
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| [21:06:00] | Ryushin: | I'm having a bit of a problem compiling from source. I've compiled mythtv with the prefix of /usr/local/mythtv. That went fine. However, compiling the plugins is having problem as it seems they want to be put under /usr/local. make'ing is not finding /usr/local/mythtv/include when I compile the plugins. Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? |
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| [21:12:00] | jemarcks: | xris. help.. i think my hard drive in my backend is bad |
| [21:13:00] | jemarcks: | xris, how do i test it or reformat it? |
| [21:13:00] | xris: | boot on a rescue cd? |
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| [21:14:00] | jemarcks: | xris. dont have one for fc4 |
| [21:15:00] | jemarcks: | can i boot on the install cd and do any good? |
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| [21:25:00] | Ryushin: | jemarcks: Download the rescue cd from www.sysrescd.org |
| [21:25:00] | Ryushin: | It's gentoo based but it doesn't matter. It will have all tools to check out your hard drive. |
| [21:25:00] | Ryushin: | If you get fsck to work, then you can chroot into it after you mount your partitions. |
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| [22:01:00] | justinjas: | Anyone else using knoppixmyth I'm using the latest version and ran into a problem when upgrading using "apt-get dist-upgrade". I run debian boxes so I'm used to upgrading this way but it seemed to break my knoppixmyth box. Just wondering if upgrading that way is acutally supported or if its best just to wait for a new cd to come out and upgrade that way? |
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| [22:13:00] | xris: | jemarcks: that *is* a rescue cd |
| [22:13:00] | xris: | boot, and then at LILO, type "linux rescue" |
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| [22:26:00] | mchou: | wow, I just found out the linksys voip firmware can be hacked to connect with any voip provider (i.e. free ones) |
| [22:27:00] | mchou: | that's pretty sweet |
| [22:28:00] | xris: | nifty |
| [22:28:00] | mchou: | staples is giving away the HW for free..... |
| [22:28:00] | mchou: | last day..... |
| [22:31:00] | xris: | really? |
| [22:31:00] | xris: | oh well, I already have voip |
| [22:31:00] | xris: | and am stuck in a contract for 9 or so more months. |
| [22:31:00] | mchou: | xris: yeah, no joke |
| [22:32:00] | mchou: | xris: staples web site, item #577467 |
| [22:32:00] | mchou: | get it locally, of course..... |
| [22:33:00] | mchou: | $50 + $50 rebate..... |
| [22:33:00] | mchou: | no sign-up necessary |
| [22:34:00] | mchou: | might be worthwhile just for novelty factor :) |
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| [22:38:00] | CanadaBoy: | so who is using a pvr150? |
| [22:38:00] | mchou: | I'm using several |
| [22:39:00] | CanadaBoy: | mchou how are they? |
| [22:39:00] | mchou: | pretty good. |
| [22:39:00] | CanadaBoy: | how do the compare to a 250's quality ? |
| [22:40:00] | mchou: | probably the best on the market right now..... |
| [22:40:00] | mchou: | (but that's not saying much) :) |
| [22:40:00] | CanadaBoy: | you using pvr150 .. not pvr150l.p or mce right? |
| [22:40:00] | mchou: | 2x retail 150 and 2x mce |
| [22:41:00] | CanadaBoy: | what the diff between 150 and 150 mce? |
| [22:41:00] | mchou: | I dont think you can really tell the diff betw 150 and 250 in A?B test |
| [22:41:00] | mchou: | A/B* |
| [22:41:00] | CanadaBoy: | i have a 350 ... thinking about adding a 150 |
| [22:42:00] | mchou: | CanadaBoy: go to the hauppauge web site, it's all explained there |
| [22:42:00] | CanadaBoy: | ya i've been looking ... |
| [22:42:00] | CanadaBoy: | just want to make sure that im going to get the same quality i've been getting ... |
| [22:42:00] | mchou: | so why are you asking then? |
| [22:42:00] | CanadaBoy: | asking someone who has actually used one |
| [22:43:00] | mchou: | CanadaBoy: I was referring to this: [13:41:03] <CanadaBoy> what the diff between 150 and 150 mce? |
| [22:43:00] | CanadaBoy: | o lol |
| [22:43:00] | CanadaBoy: | ha ha |
| [22:43:00] | CanadaBoy: | i think i will get one ... |
| [22:44:00] | CanadaBoy: | mchou: you have a frontend and backend? |
| [22:44:00] | mchou: | many backends and frontends |
| [22:44:00] | mchou: | group sex :) |
| [22:44:00] | mchou: | j/k :) |
| [22:45:00] | CanadaBoy: | ha ha nice ... quiet the setup ... |
| [22:45:00] | CanadaBoy: | im looking to frind a cheap, nice frontend |
| [22:45:00] | CanadaBoy: | find |
| [22:45:00] | mchou: | you got one with 350. |
| [22:46:00] | mchou: | what's the problem? |
| [22:47:00] | mchou: | 350 probably works in a p2 450 :) |
| [22:49:00] | CanadaBoy: | well i have the 1 pvr350 in the backend ... |
| [22:49:00] | CanadaBoy: | looking at building a frontend |
| [22:49:00] | mchou: | huh??? |
| [22:49:00] | briand: | putting a 350 in the frontend will reduce the CPU requirements. hardware decoding... |
| [22:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey mchou |
| [22:50:00] | mchou: | the BE can also be fe (hermaphrodite) |
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| [22:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol mchou |
| [22:50:00] | briand: | heh |
| [22:51:00] | briand: | mine is... pvr-350 be/fe .. and i'm adding a pvr-500 to it next week |
| [22:51:00] | mchou: | pretty soon my sexual analogies will break down :) |
| [22:51:00] | mchou: | hi SlicerDicer- |
| [22:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well... the 350 is a waste if you dont use it as a FE also |
| [22:51:00] | ** SlicerDicer- slaps anybody who does otherwise ** | |
| [22:51:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: get your STB replaced? |
| [22:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | not yet |
| [22:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cable guy came out |
| [22:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | was baffled though |
| [22:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | tried to hook up a differnet box |
| [22:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | did not work :/ |
| [22:52:00] | mchou: | at all or just same as last box? |
| [22:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | So apparently something changed in the headend in bellevue so I really cant do squat about it |
| [22:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so the new box was plugged in and downloaded the same screwed up crap from the headend |
| [22:53:00] | mchou: | haha |
| [22:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | all I can really do is wait :/ |
| [22:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hope they fix it |
| [22:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh mchou I been looking at the hdtv card |
| [22:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it seems that it converts it from hdtv? |
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| [22:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so I should be able to play it on a normal tv correcT? |
| [22:57:00] | mchou: | huh?? |
| [22:58:00] | mchou: | I dont understand what you mean. |
| [22:58:00] | mchou: | look at this: http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog . . . p;hp=search# |
| [22:59:00] | mchou: | not bad for $90. |
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| [23:01:00] | mchou: | even has rs-323 interface :) |
| [23:01:00] | CanadaBoy: | if i have a fronend and an backwith tunners with they both record to the backend or to each's own HDD? |
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| [23:02:00] | mchou: | CanadaBoy: they dont have to record to either :) |
| [23:03:00] | CanadaBoy: | ?? |
| [23:03:00] | mchou: | network volume anywhere |
| [23:03:00] | CanadaBoy: | nope |
| [23:03:00] | CanadaBoy: | the backend had 200 gb of hd |
| [23:03:00] | mchou: | so? |
| [23:03:00] | CanadaBoy: | can the frontend record to the backend or does it have to record to itself? |
| [23:03:00] | mchou: | which part of network volume anywhere dont you understand? |
| [23:04:00] | CanadaBoy: | don't know what that is |
| [23:04:00] | mchou: | CanadaBoy: too bad |
| [23:05:00] | mchou: | CanadaBoy: try reading the myth docs |
| [23:05:00] | briand: | and, for what it's worth... the frontend doesn't record; the backend does. |
| [23:06:00] | mchou: | briand: haha, good point |
| [23:06:00] | briand: | good afternoon, mchou.. how're you doing today? |
| [23:06:00] | mchou: | briand: must be losing it :) |
| [23:06:00] | briand: | oh. |
| [23:06:00] | briand: | i thought you were just leaving me an opening. ;) |
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| [23:07:00] | mchou: | memory that is :) |
| [23:07:00] | briand: | y'know, like tag-team smartasses, or something. |
| [23:07:00] | mchou: | haha |
| [23:07:00] | mchou: | who is on first would be appropriate :) |
| [23:07:00] | briand: | yes, who is on first. |
| [23:07:00] | briand: | what's on second |
| [23:07:00] | briand: | i don't know is on third |
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| [23:08:00] | ** CanadaBoy wanders the mythdocs ** | |
| [23:09:00] | briand: | it annoys me that Amazon.com sent me somebody elses order this past week. :/ there is _nothing_ on right now worth watching, nothing queued to be recorded, and nothing previously recorded that is awaiting viewing... |
| [23:09:00] | briand: | in other words, this would be the perfect day/time to install my new PVR-500 |
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| [23:09:00] | mchou: | briand: you got a freebie and you complaining? |
| [23:09:00] | briand: | no, not a freebie. |
| [23:10:00] | briand: | i got someone else's order (and, presumably, they got mine) |
| [23:10:00] | briand: | i have no need for an iPod amplified-speaker setup |
| [23:10:00] | mchou: | briand: what was in the order you got? |
| [23:10:00] | mchou: | haha |
| [23:10:00] | briand: | ..and, frankly, if i had an iPod, i wouldn't pay $130 for this thing! |
| [23:10:00] | mchou: | those things are SO STUPID |
| [23:10:00] | briand: | agreed. |
| [23:11:00] | mchou: | I have a geeky friend, he bought those speakers |
| [23:11:00] | briand: | so, they're shipping me a PVR-500MCE, again... |
| [23:11:00] | briand: | but it won't be here until Wednesday. |
| [23:11:00] | mchou: | I said mp3 are bad enough....why put it on 2in speakers? :) |
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| [23:11:00] | briand: | and, I'm not sure I made it clear to the customer service folks at amazon... |
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| [23:12:00] | briand: | perhaps there will, or maybe there won't... be a UPS call-tag arriving here for the return of the wrong order. |
| [23:12:00] | briand: | i'll give it a couple months, and then put it up on ebay. |
| [23:12:00] | briand: | or.. heheh, better yet, sell it on amazon.com |
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| [23:12:00] | mchou: | briand: you be lucky if amazon doesnt charge you 2x :) |
| [23:12:00] | briand: | they'd best not. |
| [23:12:00] | briand: | the invoice for the replacement indicates a price of $0.00 |
| [23:13:00] | mchou: | briand: they probably think you recieved 2xpvr500s |
| [23:13:00] | briand: | no, they're well aware of what i received. |
| [23:13:00] | rage__: | mp3 are bad enough? |
| [23:13:00] | briand: | i talked to them on the phone, twice. |
| [23:13:00] | ** CyberKnet thinks about creating a partition on the new 250gb raid mirror vs just creating a filesystem on the block device ** | |
| [23:14:00] | mchou: | rage__: mp3 sound quality is the shits |
| [23:14:00] | briand: | well, i'd have no use for a second PVR-500, anyway.. |
| [23:14:00] | rage__: | uh |
| [23:14:00] | rage__: | I disagree... heh. |
| [23:14:00] | mchou: | rage__: they you must be deaf |
| [23:14:00] | briand: | ... my mythtv box is a Pundit-R, which only has two PCI slots... so the PVR-350 and the PVR-500 will fill it up. |
| [23:14:00] | CyberKnet: | rage__: it's your right to disagree. |
| [23:14:00] | CyberKnet: | rage__: but that doesn't mean you're right =) |
| [23:14:00] | rage__: | yes mchou, I'm deaf |
| [23:15:00] | mchou: | rage__: that explains it. |
| [23:15:00] | CyberKnet: | ogg is nicer than mp3, but I've come to appreciate flac/alac |
| [23:15:00] | rage__: | maybe mp3 at 24 bitrate |
| [23:15:00] | rage__: | flac/alac? |
| [23:15:00] | CyberKnet: | yes |
| [23:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, the HDTV card that you can get |
| [23:15:00] | mchou: | mp3 at any bit rate sux eggs |
| [23:15:00] | CyberKnet: | flac, and alac |
| [23:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I was thinking with that does it convert HDTV to where I could view those channels on standard def? I am wondering if I could do that with the computah :) |
| [23:16:00] | rage__: | how do they compare in size? |
| [23:16:00] | CyberKnet: | size is irrelative to me. |
| [23:16:00] | briand: | "irrelevant" |
| [23:16:00] | rage__: | that's not what I asked |
| [23:16:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: that depends on your display card. |
| [23:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, I am using nvidia for output |
| [23:16:00] | CyberKnet: | "speeling narzi" |
| [23:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | geforce 4 440 MX |
| [23:17:00] | briand: | not so much a spelling nazi.. but you used the wrong word. |
| [23:17:00] | briand: | so, maybe a "grammar nazi" ;) |
| [23:17:00] | CyberKnet: | my bad. wrong comparrison. |
| [23:17:00] | CyberKnet: | "gramer hoar" |
| [23:17:00] | CyberKnet: | (the double r in comparison was intended =P") |
| [23:18:00] | briand: | okay. did you also mean to use 'hoar' (== frost) instead of 'whore' ? ;) |
| [23:18:00] | mchou: | hahah |
| [23:18:00] | CyberKnet: | what do you think you mensa snob? =P" |
| [23:19:00] | briand: | i'm not a snob. ...although i've met many in mensa who are. |
| [23:19:00] | mchou: | man trade show girls are the best |
| [23:19:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: Yes. Yes they are =) |
| [23:19:00] | CyberKnet: | briand: I'm going to stop being an ass now. *grin* |
| [23:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, do you bring them "gifts"? |
| [23:19:00] | ** SlicerDicer- laughs ** | |
| [23:20:00] | mchou: | http://gallery.mtbr.com/data/mtbr/565/235165/ . . . caddilac.jpg |
| [23:20:00] | CyberKnet: | SlicerDicer: nah, just sticky hand shakes |
| [23:20:00] | briand: | CyberKnet: okay. thanks for playing... here's a copy of our home game. |
| [23:20:00] | briand: | ;) |
| [23:21:00] | CyberKnet: | note to self: encourage more people to feed the trolls. |
| [23:21:00] | briand: | SlicerDicer-: nah.. he just likes getting shot at with a t-shirt cannon |
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| [23:22:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: hmmm... that guy is a bit to ... ugly? ... to be a trade show queen |
| [23:22:00] | CyberKnet: | s/to/too/ |
| [23:22:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, howdy |
| [23:22:00] | CyberKnet: | stupid laptop keyboard. |
| [23:24:00] | CyberKnet: | I guess I need to install the 3dm utility |
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| [23:25:00] | CyberKnet: | shit. I had to unplug the cdrom drive to get the machine to boot. |
| [23:25:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [23:25:00] | mchou: | This is a whole new definition of "toy:" http://gallery.mtbr.com/showphoto.php?photo=4 . . . &cat=565 |
| [23:25:00] | CyberKnet: | next note to self: obtain larger wattage psu |
| [23:26:00] | CyberKnet: | man. I don't know which button to push first on that one. |
| [23:26:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: haha |
| [23:27:00] | CanadaBoy: | mchou: any your frontends on xboxes by chance? |
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| [23:27:00] | mchou: | CanadaBoy: nope |
| [23:27:00] | CyberKnet: | I'd like to know what was going on here: http://gallery.mtbr.com/showphoto.php?photo=5 . . . 65&page= |
| [23:28:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: brest implants :) |
| [23:28:00] | mchou: | breast* |
| [23:28:00] | mchou: | balloons for breasts |
| [23:28:00] | briand: | water- or air-filled ? |
| [23:29:00] | mchou: | briand: ask her :) |
| [23:29:00] | mchou: | go up with a thumbtack and find out :) |
| [23:29:00] | briand: | ..and take a chance on ruining her sweater? |
| [23:30:00] | mchou: | briand: bah, that's the hole point :) |
| [23:30:00] | rama: | hi ppl, sorry to interfere between balloons, but I wonder if asking about issues with character encoding using spanish language in mythtv ? |
| [23:30:00] | briand: | ooh. a triple-entendre pun. i like it. |
| [23:30:00] | CanadaBoy: | yo haveyonasty ... |
| [23:30:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: lmao |
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| [23:31:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: you're so hilarity. |
| [23:31:00] | CyberKnet: | ;) |
| [23:31:00] | briand: | rama: what issues are you encountering? |
| [23:32:00] | rama: | CyberKnet, some accentuated characters look horrible |
| [23:32:00] | rama: | CyberKnet, I was playing around with the .xml files for the translation but I have no idea how to generate the appropriate encodings to fit in there |
| [23:33:00] | rama: | plus copy-pasting the encoded char used on another translated string, fixed the problem, but would like to know more about the encodings in there, as I will work out the unstranslated stuff |
| [23:34:00] | briand: | и вондер вхат цодепаР;³Ðµ ыоу аре уÑинг... |
| [23:34:00] | briand: | perhqps chqnging thqt zould help: |
| [23:34:00] | briand: | but then, you weren't talking to me. :) |
| [23:35:00] | ** CyberKnet resists the spelling nazi urge. barely. ** | |
| [23:35:00] | briand: | CyberKnet: there was nothing misspelled there... just typed in various codepages. (russian and french, to be exact) |
| [23:36:00] | briand: | "i wonder what codepage you are using..." & "perhaps changing that would help." |
| [23:37:00] | rama: | briand, let me confirm |
| [23:37:00] | rama: | es_ES ? |
| [23:37:00] | ** CyberKnet curses his client ** | |
| [23:38:00] | rama: | should I set it to UTF-8 ? |
| [23:38:00] | ** rama is almost analphabet for charset stuff ** | |
| [23:39:00] | briand: | rama: perhaps changing the default font to one that renders a better looking spanish charset ... |
| [23:39:00] | briand: | are you experiencing the problem just in the myth menus, or in the OSD as well? |
| [23:41:00] | rama: | briand, ah! good idea, i thought this about related to font, but the funny thing is the accentuated chars, get fixed if I change the "encoded bits" which show up in the XML, the look cryptic in there |
| [23:41:00] | rama: | but using the (let's say) "format" from the string which renders correctly instead of the "mis-encoded one" fixes the issue |
| [23:42:00] | rama: | briand, i didn't try the OSD things yet, I'm working on a plugin to tune into remote streams, based on myth-video |
| [23:42:00] | rama: | mythvideo, sorry |
| [23:42:00] | briand: | ah. |
| [23:43:00] | briand: | but you bring up a valid point... the whole application and the various utilities should be written with multi-language support built in... |
| [23:43:00] | rama: | briand, so the font could be a thing to check, however I would probably need to know how to generate the "encodings" for fitting the strings into the xml files |
| [23:43:00] | briand: | ...so that one would need only specify the 'default language' in the configuration |
| [23:43:00] | rama: | they aren't ? |
| [23:44:00] | rama: | I understand they do, but I might be wrong |
| [23:44:00] | briand: | the typical first step in "internationalization" of code is extracting all the strings to a single module. |
| [23:45:00] | rama: | hmm, that's what I did I think, from the mythtv-setup or somewhere around config.. I've set lang to spanish and it starts reading the spanish strings from the respective XMLs |
| [23:45:00] | briand: | thus, the translators could be put to work on a simple file, rather than having to wade through the code... |
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| [23:46:00] | atomjack: | i'm trying to compile the latest head, and i'm getting a bunch of errors on raw.c, can anyone help? |
| [23:46:00] | rama: | well, in this case is not just one simple file, but a couple of xml files |
| [23:48:00] | Ryushin: | Does the latest svn change the way it handles file recordings from 18.1? I've gotten svn (as of today) running but it always gives me a "Invalid file handle when opening /mythtv/recordings" It doesn't even give the full name of the file, just the path were it should be. |
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| [23:51:00] | rama: | briand, so do you have any clue on what to read for learning about that charset encoding and bla? focused on the xml files for myth |
| [23:52:00] | briand: | i have no specific recommendations, no.. :/ sorry. |
| [23:55:00] | rama: | no problem, thx |
| [23:55:00] | briand: | welcome... and good luck. :) |
| [23:56:00] | rama: | :) pleased |
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