| Thursday, October 6th, 2005, 00:01 UTC | ||
| [00:01:00] | Beirdo: | maybe nothing is actually running the queue? |
| [00:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | umm.. it says it is |
| [00:01:00] | Beirdo: | oh |
| [00:01:00] | Beirdo: | well in that case, I dunno |
| [00:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://rafb.net/paste/results/T8Hgcw13.html |
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| [00:19:00] | Beirdo: | well, time to go |
| [00:19:00] | sphing_: | grr |
| [00:19:00] | sphing_: | was about to ask you something |
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| [00:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, you around? |
| [00:39:00] | lknarenra: | Can anyone here help me get LIRC working w/ a serial reciever? |
| [00:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no idea i use rs232 and dctchannel with my comcast box |
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| [00:43:00] | foobum: | hi all.. does anyone know how to set ivtv controls on start of playback? it seems that brightness et al are reset each time i start watching tv.. |
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| [00:46:00] | comcipher: | have you tried using the F key in myth when watching it? |
| [00:47:00] | foobum: | thats xv controls... i mean the ivtv controls |
| [00:48:00] | fofof: | yeah |
| [00:48:00] | comcipher: | no clue, i'm a n00b just thought i'd throw that out there as you seem to be the only other non-idle person in there |
| [00:49:00] | fofof: | ;] |
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| [00:57:00] | Chipdancer: | off, morning again |
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| [01:03:00] | comcipher: | Can anyone here help me get LIRC working w/ a serial reciever? |
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| [01:15:00] | Chipdancer: | comcipher: sorry, haven't done it. I'm still working through my USB IR one. |
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| [01:40:00] | crazy88: | Hi All |
| [01:41:00] | crazy88: | I recently setup mythtv — I have a simple question — using the volume controls (F10,F11) when watching TV has no impact on volume |
| [01:41:00] | crazy88: | I have tried changing the mixer device between PCM, Master etc. |
| [01:41:00] | crazy88: | Would anyone have anytips here? |
| [01:44:00] | comcipher: | have you tried using the [ and ] keys for volume? |
| [01:45:00] | ShockValue: | is there an easy way to stick 2 mpg files together? |
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| [01:46:00] | Krazylegz: | ShockValue: You mean, join them back-to-back? |
| [01:46:00] | ShockValue: | ya |
| [01:46:00] | Krazylegz: | Yes. |
| [01:46:00] | ** ShockValue gets ready for Krazylegz genius: ** | |
| [01:47:00] | Krazylegz: | Heh. Check Yahoo. ;-) |
| [01:47:00] | comcipher: | lol |
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| [01:47:00] | ShockValue: | bah |
| [01:47:00] | Krazylegz: | I wonder if you could just do file2.mpg >> file1.mpg . |
| [01:47:00] | Krazylegz: | comcipher: I got tired of telling people to Google. |
| [01:47:00] | comcipher: | it would probably go horribly wrong |
| [01:47:00] | ShockValue: | im not sure why IRC even exists. everyone's answer is "check the web" |
| [01:47:00] | Krazylegz: | I do know that it can be done. I don't know how to do it. |
| [01:48:00] | crazy88: | comcipher: I can see the OSD changing the volume across the spectrum 0–100, however, the sound output level from the speakers does not change at all |
| [01:48:00] | comcipher: | crazy88: How do you have your sound hooked up, soundcard, onboard? |
| [01:48:00] | crazy88: | onboard. |
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| [01:49:00] | crazy88: | When playing videos using mythvideo the volume controls work just fine |
| [01:49:00] | comcipher: | how strange |
| [01:49:00] | crazy88: | its only when watching TV that its a problem |
| [01:49:00] | comcipher: | what about watching recordings? |
| [01:49:00] | crazy88: | My guess is that mplayer is using some different way to modify the audio level. |
| [01:49:00] | crazy88: | Hmm.. I haven't tried it during recordings |
| [01:50:00] | comcipher: | if it works when watching a recording but not when watching live TV, that's really weird |
| [01:50:00] | smoke_: | any themers on? :) |
| [01:51:00] | redf0x: | has anyone seen a connect: Connection refused error from irw? |
| [01:52:00] | crazy88: | comcipher: no it does not work during a recording either |
| [01:52:00] | comcipher: | But it does work when watching regular video files? |
| [01:53:00] | crazy88: | yes |
| [01:53:00] | comcipher: | Do you have it hooked up to your pc? |
| [01:53:00] | comcipher: | via router or crossover cable? |
| [01:54:00] | crazy88: | i have the backend and frontend on the same system. |
| [01:54:00] | comcipher: | what kind of a capture card do you have? |
| [01:55:00] | crazy88: | pvr-250. |
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| [01:56:00] | comcipher: | You can sftp into the myth box and pull one of your recordings off. Rename the .nuv file to .mpeg so you can play it |
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| [01:56:00] | comcipher: | make sure when you play it on your pc you have sound, that way you know for sure that it's recording the sound and not (for some reason) recording it |
| [02:01:00] | comcipher: | crazy88: Hey, i'm gonna head out for awhile. Not sure how much I can help you but if you want to IM me over AIM you can contact me at comcipher |
| [02:03:00] | LedHed: | is it possible to boot from a Software RAID with Grub? |
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| [02:17:00] | redf0x: | I'm setting up lirc with myth, is there a list of key commands anywhere? |
| [02:18:00] | Agrajag-: | keys.txt i think |
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| [02:20:00] | Chipdancer: | yep, but if you want an online reference to that check out http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/keys.txt |
| [02:20:00] | redf0x: | Agrajag-, ok I found it, thanks |
| [02:20:00] | redf0x: | thanks Chipdancer |
| [02:21:00] | Chipdancer: | you might also want to check out the keys under mythweb's configuratino if you're using it... it will tell you the current commands and also allow you to easily change them |
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| [02:21:00] | redf0x: | ah sweet |
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| [02:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Chutt, are you around? |
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| [02:44:00] | ByteNik: | hey all |
| [02:44:00] | ByteNik: | why won't: |
| [02:44:00] | ByteNik: | * * * * * root pidof mythfrontend 2>&1 > /dev/null || ( DISPLAY=":0.0" mythfrontend 2>&1 > /dev/null & ) |
| [02:44:00] | ByteNik: | in my crontab start up mythfrontend? |
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| [03:10:00] | redf0x: | is there a good guide for setting up ir blasting? |
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| [03:37:00] | atomjack: | anyone know why the video gallery would all of a sudden start taking an enormous time to load (like 4 or 5 minutes)? the frontend and backend logs don't shed any light on it.. |
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| [03:53:00] | eric_: | when i play live-tv (i'm assuming its the same with recorded shows)... the tv displays my video kinda slow... like it seems that previous frames are shown when they shouldn't be |
| [03:54:00] | eric_: | for example, when fast motions occur, like a pitcher throwing a ball, it kinda lags |
| [03:54:00] | eric_: | i'm not really sure how to describe the problem, but does anyone know how to fix this? |
| [03:55:00] | Skaface: | is it like a comb kindof blurring effect on stuff that moves? |
| [03:56:00] | DarkBeer: | i have a similar problem when i watch football. seems like they are just a little bit slow. regular shows are fine |
| [03:56:00] | eric_: | Skaface: yeah, kinda |
| [03:56:00] | Skaface: | do you have deinterlacing turned on? |
| [03:56:00] | Skaface: | in your tv playback settings |
| [03:57:00] | eric_: | i don't have the "Deinterlace playback" option checked |
| [03:57:00] | eric_: | should i check it? |
| [03:57:00] | Skaface: | if you are watching on a computer screen you should have it checked |
| [03:57:00] | eric_: | its on a tv monitor actually |
| [03:57:00] | Skaface: | hmm interesting |
| [03:57:00] | eric_: | i'll try it out, any algorithm you'd recommend? |
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| [03:58:00] | Skaface: | not really, just experiment with them |
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| [03:58:00] | Skaface: | they all seem to do a good enough job for me |
| [03:58:00] | DarkBeer: | deinterlace==off for regular tv? |
| [03:59:00] | Skaface: | as far as i know, yeah |
| [03:59:00] | Skaface: | because a tv is interlaced |
| [03:59:00] | DarkBeer: | k, thanks. I already had it that way, so must need to change something else |
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| [04:02:00] | Skaface: | faster moving scenes take more processor power to compress, so you might need to play around with your live tv encoder settings |
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| [04:09:00] | DarkBeer: | Skaface, 3 ghz w/a gig of ram. was kinda hoping that would be enough horsepower ;) |
| [04:10:00] | redline-: | anyone have any luck setting up an entire house with Mythtv? im talking 4 tvs with mythfrontends and 1 main server with 3 tuners |
| [04:11:00] | geoff__998e: | I have 2 tuners and 3 frontends |
| [04:11:00] | redline-: | and no problems? |
| [04:11:00] | geoff__998e: | not really |
| [04:11:00] | redline-: | what remotes are you using? |
| [04:11:00] | geoff__998e: | two are laptops and one is on the backend |
| [04:12:00] | redline-: | so you can paralell stream content? |
| [04:12:00] | geoff__998e: | I use a remote that came with a pvr 250 even though I don't use that card anymore |
| [04:12:00] | geoff__998e: | yes |
| [04:12:00] | geoff__998e: | even over wireless |
| [04:12:00] | redline-: | nice |
| [04:12:00] | geoff__998e: | 802.11g |
| [04:12:00] | geoff__998e: | watch tv in bed |
| [04:12:00] | geoff__998e: | :) |
| [04:12:00] | geoff__998e: | I use the irman serial receiver for the remote |
| [04:13:00] | geoff__998e: | tried to build my own soundcard based one, it only kinda worked |
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| [04:14:00] | redline--: | just got bumbed, have you used a cable box before? |
| [04:14:00] | geoff__998e: | no, I only have standard cable and a pvr 500 |
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| [04:15:00] | geoff__998e: | no box involved |
| [04:15:00] | redline--: | hmm im having a bear of time with my digital box |
| [04:15:00] | geoff__998e: | you have and irblaster? |
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| [04:16:00] | redline--: | I got my hands on win vista beta 2, and it has mce built in but.. it blocks all digital content even the discovery channel etc.. |
| [04:16:00] | redline--: | I have 2 media center remotes 1 microsoft and 1 phillips |
| [04:17:00] | redline--: | I got the philips working with lircd but not very well, I have to tweak the repeat times i think |
| [04:18:00] | Beirdo: | yah, I need a "sports" profile with a WAY higher bitrate |
| [04:18:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [04:18:00] | geoff__998e: | sorry, not sure what to tell you. Irrecord can be fussy though |
| [04:19:00] | redline--: | Beirdo: I agree |
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| [04:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Beirdo, who would know about this queue thing? I am frustrated I cant get it to do any jobs on the backend :/ |
| [04:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | commflag nothing |
| [04:23:00] | Beirdo: | dunno |
| [04:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | :/ |
| [04:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | maybe Chutt would know? |
| [04:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | when he comes around I will ask him :) |
| [04:25:00] | jemarcks: | how do I remove a file called '-f'? |
| [04:25:00] | jemarcks: | rm -rf "-f" does not work |
| [04:25:00] | Beirdo: | rm — -f |
| [04:25:00] | Beirdo: | man rm |
| [04:25:00] | jams: | rm ./-f |
| [04:26:00] | jemarcks: | jams, thanks.. that did it |
| [04:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Beirdo, man man works better :P |
| [04:26:00] | jemarcks: | :D |
| [04:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | LOL!!! |
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| [04:37:00] | Vantage__: | hrmm anyone here have an asus pundit? |
| [04:37:00] | r2: | nope |
| [04:37:00] | r2: | not me, that is |
| [04:38:00] | Vantage__: | dang. i just picked one up (pundit-r) with a pvr-500 and there's no way the pvr-500 is going to fit in it (even though i was assured it would at the time of purchase...) |
| [04:38:00] | Vantage__: | damn slimey sales people... |
| [04:38:00] | Vantage__: | i'm curious if a pvr-150 would fit |
| [04:38:00] | Vantage__: | or if there's another small board/case combo that would fit the 500 |
| [04:39:00] | mchou: | Vantage__: who did the assuring? :) |
| [04:39:00] | Vantage__: | the store i bought the hardware from |
| [04:40:00] | mchou: | Vantage__: which store is that? |
| [04:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey mchou you know about the problem I am having with queue? |
| [04:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | or are you not familiar with it? |
| [04:40:00] | Vantage__: | canada computers |
| [04:40:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: no idea, sorry |
| [04:40:00] | mchou: | Vantage__: haha, isnt that where Beirdo shops? |
| [04:40:00] | Beirdo: | Vantage__, hahaha |
| [04:40:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [04:40:00] | Vantage__: | no idea |
| [04:41:00] | Beirdo: | you actually listened to them? |
| [04:41:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [04:41:00] | Beirdo: | all those guys are good for is getting stuff out of the locked cabinets, I wouldn't trust their opinions for shit |
| [04:41:00] | mchou: | haha |
| [04:42:00] | Beirdo: | they don't have the best price by having smart people working there |
| [04:42:00] | Vantage__: | i didn't, i asked them to open up the box w/ the card and try it out, but they refused |
| [04:42:00] | Beirdo: | yeah good luck with that :) |
| [04:42:00] | mchou: | haha |
| [04:42:00] | Vantage__: | so now i get to take it back... fun fun... |
| [04:43:00] | mchou: | shounds like a shit retailer |
| [04:43:00] | Vantage__: | but the question is, now what? get a new case/board or a different card? |
| [04:43:00] | mchou: | sounds* |
| [04:43:00] | Vantage__: | mchou: they're cheap though |
| [04:43:00] | mchou: | Vantage__: was length the problem with 500? |
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| [04:44:00] | Vantage__: | mchou: length for sure. height also though |
| [04:44:00] | Vantage__: | though not as bad |
| [04:44:00] | mchou: | get a 150? :) |
| [04:44:00] | Beirdo: | they are fall-off-the-truck-Chinese-style cheap |
| [04:44:00] | Vantage__: | mchou: you think that would fit? (i'd have to get two and the board only has two pci slots) |
| [04:45:00] | Vantage__: | which kinda sucks if I want to add a wireless card or HD card in the future... |
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| [04:45:00] | mchou: | 150 is shorter....dunno abough height. I can measure for you if you want |
| [04:45:00] | mchou: | about* |
| [04:45:00] | mchou: | bbl |
| [04:45:00] | Vantage__: | could you? that'd be great. do you know if they 150 goes past the metal bracket in height? |
| [04:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah you have 30 of them right mchou :P |
| [04:46:00] | mchou: | oh, defintely not past bracket |
| [04:46:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, this is fun, realtime mbox <-> maildir conversion |
| [04:46:00] | rage-: | is it possible to tune to TV broadcast radio channels with myth? ie tv channels with no video track? |
| [04:46:00] | mchou: | Vantage__: oops, I lied.... |
| [04:46:00] | mchou: | it does go past bracket |
| [04:47:00] | Vantage__: | mchou: by a lot? |
| [04:52:00] | r2: | rage-: I think the mythFM project is trying to convince myth to accept audio and ignore the video (i.e. the FM tuner in some of the Hauppauge cards) ... no idea what luck they've had as I haven't installed it yet. |
| [04:53:00] | r2: | rage-: otherwise, if it's a station broadcast over regular stations 2–125 (or whatever the top limit is), then myth shouldn't really care that it's a radio station; if it's something coming out of a set-top box, then as long as it is wired correctly, it should be just fine with it. |
| [04:54:00] | rage-: | I get messages like "channel #xx is off-air" |
| [04:55:00] | r2: | rage-: can't help you there, haven't learned that one. |
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| [05:00:00] | redline--: | anyone got any suggestions as to mpeg to dvd software for... windows =( |
| [05:01:00] | geoff__998e: | easy dvd creator? |
| [05:01:00] | Chipdancer: | I might have suggested iMovie/iDVD if you hadn't have said that last word |
| [05:01:00] | Vantage__: | mchou: ? |
| [05:01:00] | mchou: | Vantage__: height is approx 9.8cm (not including pci fingers) |
| [05:01:00] | geoff__998e: | iMovie / iDvdis useless to take myth mpeg to dvd |
| [05:01:00] | Chipdancer: | geoff__998e: really? |
| [05:02:00] | redline--: | looking for a free one cause my linux box dont have a burner in it yet |
| [05:02:00] | Chipdancer: | I thought it auto transcoded most formats |
| [05:02:00] | geoff__998e: | yeah, can't import mpeg 2 |
| [05:02:00] | Chipdancer: | iMovieHD then? |
| [05:02:00] | geoff__998e: | even with the quicktime mpeg2 plugin |
| [05:02:00] | Chipdancer: | (from iLife05) |
| [05:02:00] | geoff__998e: | nope |
| [05:02:00] | geoff__998e: | doen't work |
| [05:02:00] | Chipdancer: | you've got to be kidding, right? |
| [05:02:00] | geoff__998e: | nope |
| [05:02:00] | Chipdancer: | that's just wrong |
| [05:02:00] | geoff__998e: | I tried for several hours |
| [05:02:00] | geoff__998e: | finally settled on a 3rd party app |
| [05:03:00] | geoff__998e: | can't even export from quicktime pro |
| [05:03:00] | geoff__998e: | it thinks there is no sound |
| [05:03:00] | geoff__998e: | Chipdancer: iMovie is mainly for DV, maybe final cut could handle it |
| [05:04:00] | Chipdancer: | geoff__998e: and at what expense for that added feature? |
| [05:04:00] | Vantage__: | mchou: yeah, same as the 500 then. what's the length? |
| [05:04:00] | geoff__998e: | $699 |
| [05:04:00] | geoff__998e: | ;) |
| [05:04:00] | Chipdancer: | be easier to convert using some freeware app to a format that iMovie/HD understood |
| [05:05:00] | atomjack: | anyone ever have a problem where the video gallery takes an enormous of time to load (4 or 5 minutes)? |
| [05:05:00] | geoff__998e: | I'll stick with the third party app, burns strait to dvd from myth mpegs, no transcoding, jut a remux |
| [05:05:00] | geoff__998e: | Sizzle is the name of the app btw |
| [05:05:00] | geoff__998e: | works better (and cheaper) than anything I have found |
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| [05:08:00] | rage-: | what do I need to be able to do transcoding with myth |
| [05:08:00] | rage-: | I have transcode installed |
| [05:08:00] | rage-: | but when I try to "begin transcoding" on a recording, I don't notice a transcode process start up |
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| [05:11:00] | Vantage__: | mchou: ? |
| [05:11:00] | difeta: | how can i tell if lirc is running? |
| [05:11:00] | Chipdancer: | ps -ef | grep lircd? |
| [05:12:00] | difeta: | Chipdancer, ok, its not, how can i find out why? |
| [05:12:00] | Chipdancer: | check your log files |
| [05:12:00] | Chipdancer: | less /var/log/messages (or similar) |
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| [05:12:00] | difeta: | Chipdancer, lirc doesnt have log in /var/log/lir* |
| [05:12:00] | Chipdancer: | grep -i lirc /var/log/messages | less |
| [05:12:00] | Chipdancer: | it might.. I thought it just logged to syslog and was captured in messages |
| [05:13:00] | difeta: | Chipdancer, nothing in messages |
| [05:13:00] | difeta: | ahh its in syslog |
| [05:13:00] | Chipdancer: | yep, very much depends on your distribution and syslog.conf settings |
| [05:13:00] | difeta: | ah haw! /dev/lirc doesnt exist |
| [05:14:00] | Chipdancer: | ok, off to ./MAKEDEV for you ;) |
| [05:14:00] | difeta: | well its exists. but just cant be opened |
| [05:14:00] | difeta: | my issue is knowing which driver to use |
| [05:15:00] | mchou: | Vantage__: it protudes 5mm above top of bracket, btw |
| [05:16:00] | Vantage__: | mchou: how long is the card? |
| [05:16:00] | mchou: | 13.5 |
| [05:17:00] | rage-: | is there a keybind to "jump to live tv" ? like if you rewinded a few minutes... then want to get back up to where the show is now (without fast forwarding to the end) |
| [05:20:00] | Vantage__: | mchou: thanks. the 500 is about 19 |
| [05:20:00] | mchou: | Vantage__: there is a lp version of the 150, you do realize..... |
| [05:21:00] | mchou: | Vantage__: the lp version 's gotta fit. |
| [05:22:00] | Vantage__: | mchou: but does the bracket go full size? if not, won't it be too small to fit? |
| [05:23:00] | mchou: | Vantage__: they give you two brackets, I think...... |
| [05:23:00] | mchou: | be silly if they didnt |
| [05:24:00] | mchou: | Vantage__: http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_pvr150mcelp.html |
| [05:26:00] | mchou: | lp is longer than regular though :) |
| [05:26:00] | mchou: | judging from the pic |
| [05:27:00] | Vantage__: | mchou: didn't see anything about another bracket... |
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| [05:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey xris I am trying to figure out a problem I have a queue'ed things in myth that will not activate such as commflagging and what not it just locks in queue and wont continue on do you have any idea what can cause that? |
| [05:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | or at least how to remove the queue list from the database so its not setting there |
| [05:34:00] | redf0x: | woo-hoo! ir blasting works |
| [05:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | grats redf0x |
| [05:35:00] | redf0x: | haha thanks |
| [05:35:00] | redf0x: | next on the list is transcoding... |
| [05:35:00] | mchou: | redf0x: what version of irblaster? |
| [05:35:00] | redf0x: | I'm just using lirc |
| [05:35:00] | redf0x: | http://www.lircsetup.com/lirc/blaster/index.php |
| [05:36:00] | rage-: | what needs to be done to be able to transcode recorded videos? |
| [05:37:00] | rage-: | I've got transcode installed... I edited a recording.. and select "begin transcoding" but nothing happens — transcode doesn't show up when I `ps auxw`, nothing. |
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| [05:38:00] | difeta: | hi all I'm trying to get lirc working but when I startup lircd I get an error message that says "lirc_gpio (-1): could not get card type" well. I know my card type, how can i speficy this? |
| [05:38:00] | bpasdar: | Anyone run across a problem with the new comcast motorola boxes and pvr-250? |
| [05:39:00] | r2: | bpasdar: I've got a motorola box with a -500, though that probably doesn't help |
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| [05:40:00] | bpasdar: | This is the new box really tiny |
| [05:40:00] | r2: | bpasdar: no idea, mine's not so tiny |
| [05:40:00] | bpasdar: | it does not deliver a signal on the tuner port |
| [05:41:00] | bpasdar: | composite works fine |
| [05:42:00] | bpasdar: | I gues I'll do some write-up on this to post to the forums |
| [05:42:00] | bpasdar: | Thanks r2 :) |
| [05:43:00] | redf0x: | bpasdar, you mean you get no signal from the coax? |
| [05:43:00] | r2: | anybody know how to use both outputs from a cable box? (1) cable out using the internal tuner functionality of the card and (2) s-video out that puts out the higher channels that the PVR-500 cannot tune itself. |
| [05:43:00] | redf0x: | r2, guess it depends on the box, most of them can only decode one channel at a time |
| [05:44:00] | redf0x: | you could do analog cable for the tuner |
| [05:44:00] | r2: | redf0x: that's true ... it has a coax out, though, and it doesn't modify the signal, so my PVR-500 can tune to whatever channel (< 125) that it wants to. |
| [05:45:00] | r2: | redf0x: however, the one that the box itself is tuned to is what I'm trying to view through mythtv (so I can record some of the non-standard channels) |
| [05:46:00] | redf0x: | hrm... I'm not really sure |
| [05:46:00] | r2: | part of the problem is that I don't know how to configure mythtv to use the same zap2it/xmltv load for both inputs (since I can't record everything on both) |
| [05:46:00] | bpasdar: | r2: I get a signal that works with my tv, but not pvr-250 on tuner port. |
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| [05:48:00] | Chipdancer: | can anybody tell me how to setup transcoding from MPEG2 to MPEG2 (no actual transcoding, but cutting and slicing to remove ads etc)? |
| [05:48:00] | Chipdancer: | you used to be able to do this in 0.15ish |
| [05:48:00] | r2: | bpasdar: have you gone through the ivtvctl drill of setting the control device (6 for my pvr-500) manually? if so, have you tried checking channel 3 or 4? perhaps the box is putting it out similar to an old VCR |
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| [05:49:00] | r2: | redf0x: it's really a problem of how to tell myth I want to go to a different input (s-video vice tuner) |
| [05:49:00] | r2: | bpasdar: (and by "checking channel 3 or 4", I'm talking about tuning the pvr-250 to that channel, not the cable box) |
| [05:50:00] | redf0x: | r2, C changes the input while watching tv... |
| [05:50:00] | redf0x: | you could try that I guess |
| [05:51:00] | r2: | redf0x: I hadn't played with that, but how do I assign the same channel listing to a different input without assigning it to the same exact Video Source? |
| [05:51:00] | PatrickDK: | it should be as easy as setting up two devices |
| [05:51:00] | redf0x: | r2, yeah the settings are in mythsetup |
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| [05:53:00] | r2: | redf0x, PatrickDK: the problem is that if I set it up as part of the same Video Source ("Cable", which downloads from zap2it), then mythtv assumes that both the regular tuner and s-video (and an external channel-changer) are both capable of seeing, for instance, channel 400. If it guesses right (or if I set up the priorities correctly), it'll get it right, but there's not way to say that it *cannot* get 400 on the regular tuner input. |
| [05:54:00] | bpasdar: | r2: That is correct. I have tried both tuning the PVR frequency range as well as channel — no avail. Another cable box works just fine. |
| [05:54:00] | PatrickDK: | don't set it as the same video source |
| [05:54:00] | PatrickDK: | I use different videosources on my setup |
| [05:55:00] | r2: | PatrickDK: sounds like the only way to do it, then, is to use zap2it for one setup and regular xmltv for the second, since zap2it won't let me set up two profiles in the same zip code |
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| [05:55:00] | r2: | PatrickDK: (otherwise, I can't get mythtv to download the channel listing for one of the inputs) |
| [05:56:00] | PatrickDK: | well, that or make two accounts |
| [05:56:00] | r2: | PatrickDK: good point, that would work |
| [05:56:00] | r2: | of course, it'll have to download two heavily duplicated channel listings ... |
| [05:56:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, for mine I don't have that problem |
| [05:57:00] | PatrickDK: | I select analog cable, for coax |
| [05:57:00] | PatrickDK: | and select digital cable for the tuner box |
| [05:57:00] | redf0x: | hey PatrickDK, do you have transcoding working? |
| [05:57:00] | PatrickDK: | zap2it lets me do that |
| [05:57:00] | PatrickDK: | redf0x, I dunno, I hope so |
| [05:57:00] | redf0x: | yeah I have done the same with zap2it |
| [05:57:00] | PatrickDK: | but I don't use it |
| [05:57:00] | redf0x: | haha ok |
| [05:58:00] | redf0x: | np I'll work on it later |
| [05:58:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, 104min till email is transfered |
| [05:58:00] | redf0x: | you have used GFS before, right? |
| [05:58:00] | PatrickDK: | yes, about 2 years ago |
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| [05:58:00] | redf0x: | if I have 2 different computers, each with 1 HD, and I want it to look like 1 shared HD, is GFS what I want? |
| [05:59:00] | r2: | PatrickDK: hmmm ... is the "analog cable" and "digital cable" distinction on zap2it or in mythtv-setup? Can't seem to find it ... |
| [05:59:00] | redf0x: | from an FAQ I read, it seems like it is meant more for clustered computing |
| [05:59:00] | PatrickDK: | redf0x, that depends |
| [05:59:00] | PatrickDK: | r2, zap2it |
| [05:59:00] | PatrickDK: | do you want each harddrive to have a complete copy of each other? |
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| [05:59:00] | PatrickDK: | I dunno if gfs can do that |
| [05:59:00] | redf0x: | no, I just want to have a bigger area to store stuff |
| [06:00:00] | PatrickDK: | gfs was made more for, having an harddrive array, that any computer can use |
| [06:00:00] | PatrickDK: | at the same time |
| [06:00:00] | redf0x: | can the harddrives be spread over multiple computers? |
| [06:00:00] | PatrickDK: | redf0x, in that case, you probably just want to use linux netblock |
| [06:00:00] | PatrickDK: | redfox, gfs doesn't depend on computers |
| [06:00:00] | redf0x: | ah ok |
| [06:00:00] | PatrickDK: | it's mainly gets loaded into the harddrives firmware |
| [06:01:00] | PatrickDK: | and the client apps on each computer |
| [06:01:00] | PatrickDK: | if you use netblock, and use software raid on that |
| [06:01:00] | redf0x: | ah ok, that makes sense |
| [06:01:00] | PatrickDK: | but then you will have to have one computer be a master |
| [06:01:00] | redf0x: | I've never heard of netblock |
| [06:01:00] | PatrickDK: | and the others will have to nfs it over |
| [06:01:00] | redf0x: | yeah, just as well |
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| [06:02:00] | PatrickDK: | it will be slow, I bet |
| [06:02:00] | redf0x: | hrm |
| [06:02:00] | PatrickDK: | I would just get a 3ware card |
| [06:02:00] | redf0x: | yeah sometime I'm going to have to split up my frontend/backend |
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| [06:04:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, command.com |
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| [06:13:00] | pyrotech: | does anyone know the difference between a hauppauge pvr150 and pvr250? |
| [06:13:00] | redf0x: | 150 is newer |
| [06:13:00] | redf0x: | and cheaper |
| [06:14:00] | redf0x: | but that is the limit of my knowlege ;-) |
| [06:14:00] | pyrotech: | i looked on their website but I cant find any comprehensible infos, im trying to figure out if spending the extra money gets me anything |
| [06:15:00] | r2: | PatrickDK: okay, looks like I fixed my program there ... good idea going with analog vs digital, that seems to be what'll let me do what I want; I'm rebuilding mythfilldatabase now and seeing how it'll work |
| [06:15:00] | redf0x: | pyrotech, I asked around on here and most people suggested going for the 150 |
| [06:15:00] | redf0x: | I'm happy with it so far |
| [06:16:00] | r2: | redf0x, pyrotech: I have the pvr-500 and it's so far been really good for the money, and half the slots occupied |
| [06:16:00] | pyrotech: | cool |
| [06:16:00] | r2: | (of course, I'm still tweaking it, but have had no issues recording numerous programs so far) |
| [06:16:00] | redf0x: | yeah I kinda wish I would have considered a 500 |
| [06:16:00] | Chipdancer: | r2: half the slots occupied? |
| [06:16:00] | pyrotech: | does the mce version differ from the standard version? |
| [06:17:00] | r2: | (I've even had the radio work, though not from within mythtv yet) |
| [06:17:00] | redf0x: | one includes a remote |
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| [06:17:00] | r2: | Chipdancer: the 500 has two tuners built in compared to the 150's single tuner, so ... my logic was sound if not my presentation ;-) |
| [06:17:00] | r2: | redf0x: I think the non-MCE version of the cards typically include the remote, but, IIRC, they also don't include the FM tuner. |
| [06:17:00] | r2: | I really don't need yet ANOTHER remote in the house, anyway |
| [06:18:00] | Chipdancer: | r2: it's pointless to me, I'm DVB-T all the way |
| [06:18:00] | redf0x: | r2, yeah I think that is true. I kinda wish I had gotten the remote, so I wouldn't have to use my serial port for lirc |
| [06:18:00] | redf0x: | but I was able to get everything up and going anyways |
| [06:18:00] | pyrotech: | so if you had 200.00 to spend and only need a single tuner and dont care about radio, what would you get>? |
| [06:18:00] | redf0x: | and if you always use a keyboard, then it isn't an issue |
| [06:19:00] | Chipdancer: | redf0x: why are you using your serial port for lirc? what are you using to generate IR traffic? |
| [06:19:00] | r2: | redf0x: I haven't programmed the remote, as it stands, primarily because the IR receiver I know I have is currently "in a safe place" |
| [06:19:00] | pyrotech: | and i would like a remote |
| [06:19:00] | redf0x: | pyrotech, then the non-mce 150 |
| [06:19:00] | r2: | redf0x: I'm currently using a keyboard, but (1) it's corded and (2) it's not the most wife-friendly |
| [06:19:00] | redf0x: | Chipdancer, I'm using an RCA remote |
| [06:19:00] | redf0x: | with a serial IR transiever |
| [06:19:00] | Chipdancer: | RCA? is that a brand or type? |
| [06:19:00] | redf0x: | brand |
| [06:19:00] | ** Chipdancer nods ** | |
| [06:19:00] | redf0x: | I got it from best buy I believe |
| [06:20:00] | ** Chipdancer has the DVICO USB one.. just have to recompile lirc to support it I think. ** | |
| [06:20:00] | redf0x: | it happened to be a remote I had laying around the house, and it worked fine with lirc |
| [06:20:00] | pyrotech: | is there any reason to get the 250 then? |
| [06:20:00] | redf0x: | pyrotech, I believe it is better supported in linux, because the 150 is so new |
| [06:20:00] | redf0x: | but I think most people can get the 150 to work without much trouble |
| [06:21:00] | Chipdancer: | in fact, I have 3 of the DVICO USB remotes |
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| [06:21:00] | pyrotech: | cool, do you know if myth works well w/ a 64 bit system? |
| [06:21:00] | redf0x: | Chipdancer, yeah I have seen some USB lirc stuff while getting mine to work |
| [06:21:00] | redf0x: | but I've never tried it myself |
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| [06:23:00] | difeta: | hi all. I'm trying to load lirc and I'm told that lirc couldn't load the required modules. Can someone help? this is the last piece of my PVR puzzle. |
| [06:23:00] | redf0x: | difeta, I need to go to bed soon, but what was the exact error? |
| [06:23:00] | pyrotech: | thx for the infos, ill see if google has anything |
| [06:24:00] | redf0x: | for me, I had to tell linux to not map the serial port to anything else |
| [06:24:00] | difeta: | redf0x, well. in /var/log/message i see: lirc_gpio (-1): could not get card type |
| [06:24:00] | redf0x: | what is your lirc input? |
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| [06:24:00] | difeta: | redf0x, its on the tv card |
| [06:24:00] | redf0x: | well then this is just a guess |
| [06:25:00] | redf0x: | make sure you compile lirc with the right flag for your card |
| [06:25:00] | redf0x: | I think there is a --with-driver=DRIVER option |
| [06:25:00] | redf0x: | for ./configure |
| [06:25:00] | difeta: | redf0x, i thought i did, ill recheck |
| [06:25:00] | difeta: | i'm using knoppmyth's lirc-reconfigure util |
| [06:25:00] | redf0x: | alright, if that doesn't help then you'll have to find someone else, sorry |
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| [06:25:00] | Agrajag-: | are you sure lirc_gpio is the right module for your card? |
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| [06:38:00] | pyrotech: | so if i have 1 pvr 150 could i record a program while watching another program at the same time? |
| [06:40:00] | Agrajag-: | no |
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| [06:41:00] | Agrajag-: | well you can watch another program that you've recorded previously, while recording |
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| [06:41:00] | pyrotech: | i see |
| [06:42:00] | pyrotech: | so i would need a dual tuner to have that functionality? |
| [06:47:00] | Chipdancer: | pyrotech: yes, but do you have a normal tv at the moment as well, or will a mythbox be your only salvation? |
| [06:48:00] | pyrotech: | i have several tv, i guess i could watch the other one while recording progs |
| [06:48:00] | Chipdancer: | multiple inputs on a TV? |
| [06:48:00] | Chipdancer: | or, do like I do, only watch pre-recorded stuff that way you never have to watch ads or be held captive to a stations programming |
| [06:49:00] | pyrotech: | thats what i would like to have, the commerial skipping, so you watch everything 1 hr previous? |
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| [06:51:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | any aussies here? |
| [06:51:00] | Agrajag-: | yep |
| [06:51:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | looking to make a mythtv box with a dvb card... got any recommendations on cards? |
| [06:51:00] | Chipdancer: | yep |
| [06:51:00] | Agrajag-: | this has been discussed very recently on the -users list |
| [06:51:00] | ** Chipdancer uses DVICO FusionHDTV DVB-T1 and DVB Plus ** | |
| [06:51:00] | Chipdancer: | I have one box with 3 cards (2 pluses, 1 dvb-t1 |
| [06:51:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | what driver did you use Chipdancer? |
| [06:51:00] | Agrajag-: | i have 2 visionplus cards, they're cheap, they work perfectly for me |
| [06:52:00] | Chipdancer: | WAR_CH|LD: cx88, works correctly in 2.6.13 |
| [06:52:00] | Chipdancer: | under FC4 |
| [06:52:00] | Chipdancer: | though, to get autodetection of the dvb plus cards to work I had to patch the driver |
| [06:52:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | cools., what vision plus card yo uuse Agrajag-? |
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| [06:52:00] | Chipdancer: | I think the visionplus is the same as the DVICO FusionHDTV DVB-T Plus |
| [06:52:00] | Agrajag-: | can't remember the name. the cheap one. $90 or so |
| [06:53:00] | Chipdancer: | oh, ok.. diff one.. |
| [06:53:00] | Chipdancer: | no, that's the ultraview card |
| [06:53:00] | Chipdancer: | my mistake |
| [06:53:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | yeah, i'm looking at avermedia ones atm |
| [06:54:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | just trying to work out what drive would work with them thou |
| [06:54:00] | Chipdancer: | well, I've been using DVICO ones for a couple of years and am very happy with them |
| [06:54:00] | Chipdancer: | just added the 2 plus cards recently |
| [06:54:00] | Agrajag-: | WAR_CH|LD: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/151845 |
| [06:56:00] | Agrajag-: | people say the visionplus card has a rather insensitive tuner. works ok for me, but im fairly close to an antenna |
| [06:56:00] | Agrajag-: | so if you're in a good signal area and dont want to spend much, they're good |
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| [06:58:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | that's awesome mate |
| [06:59:00] | Chipdancer: | good thread, good pointer Agrajag- |
| [06:59:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | yeah, just I have a supplier with the avermedia stuff so I would like to go with them. cheaper. :) |
| [06:59:00] | Chipdancer: | the DVICO works well in low signal areas |
| [06:59:00] | Chipdancer: | though, I have since put a new antenna up and redone all of the cabling in the house |
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| [06:59:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | cools |
| [07:00:00] | Chipdancer: | ok, I'll ask again.. anybody here know how to just remove commercials without transcoding to a different format? |
| [07:00:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | http://www.avermedia.com/cgi-bin/products_dig . . . _dvbt771.asp |
| [07:00:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | I think I might go for that. |
| [07:00:00] | quink: | is there a way to transcode stuff in mythvideo? |
| [07:00:00] | Chipdancer: | (I would prefer to stick with MPEG2 for now as the xbox seems to have trouble playing MPEG4 transcoded material :/) |
| [07:01:00] | Chipdancer: | no idea |
| [07:01:00] | Agrajag-: | make an mpeg2->mpeg2 transcoder? |
| [07:01:00] | Chipdancer: | Agrajag-: how so? |
| [07:01:00] | Chipdancer: | you used to be able to do this (without reencoding the stream) in earlier mythtv releases |
| [07:01:00] | travolta: | WAR_CH|LD, how much is that? |
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| [07:01:00] | Agrajag-: | not sure, not at my computer with myth now, but can't you just go to the transcoders section, change the one for mpeg2, make the output mpeg2? |
| [07:02:00] | Chipdancer: | no, it's only got RTJPEG and MPEG4 as options |
| [07:02:00] | Chipdancer: | I checked that one |
| [07:02:00] | Agrajag-: | oh ok. not sure then |
| [07:02:00] | Chipdancer: | if I could, I'd prefer that |
| [07:02:00] | Chipdancer: | all I want to do is remove pre/post crap and commercials inbetween |
| [07:02:00] | Chipdancer: | significantly reduce storage space (probably by as much as 50%) and make actual viewing much nicer |
| [07:03:00] | Chipdancer: | it only takes 3–4 minutes per program to do it (and probably less once I'm more proficient using edit mode) |
| [07:04:00] | Krazylegz: | Use nuvexport? |
| [07:04:00] | Chipdancer: | Krazylegz: to do non-reencoding cutting? |
| [07:04:00] | Chipdancer: | do you have an example of how to do this? |
| [07:04:00] | Krazylegz: | No, I don't do it. Let me look into it a bit. |
| [07:05:00] | Krazylegz: | xris or Beirdo would probably know better. |
| [07:05:00] | Chipdancer: | thanks, appreciated |
| [07:05:00] | Chipdancer: | (at work, should be doing so) |
| [07:06:00] | Krazylegz: | Actually, your issue is playback on XBox? |
| [07:06:00] | Krazylegz: | I mean, that's why you can't transcode to MPEG4? |
| [07:07:00] | Chipdancer: | part of it |
| [07:07:00] | Chipdancer: | that and just cutting instead of transcoding would be significantly faster |
| [07:07:00] | Krazylegz: | Hmm. |
| [07:08:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, based on how MPEG works, you'd have to re-encode anyway, I think. |
| [07:08:00] | Krazylegz: | Remember that MPEG works by comparing frames, kind of. |
| [07:08:00] | flindet: | hi, does anyone know how to mark a game as a favorite in mythgame 18.1? |
| [07:08:00] | Chipdancer: | but the xbox is a problem anyhow.. xbmcmythtv doesn't actually playback.. it does everything else, but when I try to start playback it just hangs |
| [07:08:00] | Chipdancer: | Krazylegz: I don't quite follow you there |
| [07:08:00] | Chipdancer: | why would that mean I don't need to re-encode? |
| [07:09:00] | Krazylegz: | It would mean that you DO need to re-encode. |
| [07:09:00] | Krazylegz: | You'd be removing frames from the stream, so the compressed version would have to reconsider things. |
| [07:09:00] | Chipdancer: | no, because the other part of the picture is keyframes every so often with diff frames in between |
| [07:09:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: if you want perfect cutting, you need to reencode some frames.. but everything between GOP's can be left as-is |
| [07:09:00] | Chipdancer: | xris: GOP's are keyframes? |
| [07:09:00] | xris: | Chipdancer: no. GOP == group of pictures |
| [07:10:00] | Chipdancer: | so what's the difference between those and keyframes? |
| [07:10:00] | xris: | GOP's can be a few seconds long, which is why I've never added a basic GOP cutter to nuvexport. |
| [07:10:00] | xris: | Chipdancer: dunno |
| [07:10:00] | xris: | I think key frames have to do with resync or something. |
| [07:10:00] | Chipdancer: | xris: *nods* |
| [07:10:00] | Chipdancer: | xris: so what about just trimming and commercial extraction using nuvexport? |
| [07:11:00] | xris: | works fine. I use it for xvid exporting all the time. |
| [07:11:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: Thanks. I think I was kind of on the right track then. I should do more reading on it. |
| [07:11:00] | Chipdancer: | xris: any info I can read on how to do it? (I want to maintain original format and just use mythtv edit mode to mark cut points and effectively transcode to the same format) |
| [07:12:00] | geoff__998e: | xris: so the easiest way to cut commercials and stay in mpeg 2 is qith nuvexport? |
| [07:12:00] | geoff__998e: | with** |
| [07:12:00] | xris: | geoff__998e: if you can run the mpeg2cut functions in nuvexport (doesn't work with recent releases of most distros), then yes, it works great. |
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| [07:13:00] | geoff__998e: | xris: thanks, I'll check it out |
| [07:13:00] | Chipdancer: | me too |
| [07:13:00] | xris: | Beirdo was working on extracting the necessary pieces from avidemux and lvemux so that they would compile with recent gcc's, and not have so much overhead. |
| [07:13:00] | xris: | I'm sure he'd be HAPPY to have someone else help with the project, given that he's busy with moving/wedding plans these days. |
| [07:14:00] | xris: | there are also rumors of lossless mpeg2 cutting within svn myth, too.. no one has confirmed yet that it works properly, though. |
| [07:14:00] | geoff__998e: | I wish I could help, but graduation / wedding / finding a job are high priority now for me |
| [07:14:00] | geoff__998e: | xris: and how would one activate this rumored feature? |
| [07:14:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: You forgot about the part where Beirdo drinks lots of rum. |
| [07:14:00] | mchou: | DRM is just so much BS. Silicon Imagae is marketing new IDE interfaces with copy protection. WTF??? |
| [07:15:00] | mchou: | Image* |
| [07:15:00] | Chipdancer: | xris: so this is going to go into base myth? |
| [07:15:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: he doesn't drink THAT much |
| [07:15:00] | Chipdancer: | hrmm... any idea on a release date for the next revision? |
| [07:15:00] | xris: | Chipdancer: if it works, yes.. it's been *in* myth since .15 or so... but never worked right. |
| [07:15:00] | xris: | new version not coming any time soon. |
| [07:16:00] | Chipdancer: | ahh, well I recall playing with it in 0.15.. but never got it fully functioning |
| [07:16:00] | xris: | Chipdancer: exactly. Apparently, someone recently started poking at it again |
| [07:16:00] | Chipdancer: | damn! drat! bugger! |
| [07:16:00] | Chipdancer: | it'd be nice to have it in a live system |
| [07:17:00] | geoff__998e: | xris: I am running current svn, do you know where the option is? |
| [07:17:00] | xris: | personally, I'd just reencode to xvid and move the files back into place. |
| [07:17:00] | xris: | geoff__998e: not a clue |
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| [07:17:00] | geoff__998e: | damn |
| [07:17:00] | Chipdancer: | xris: why xvid and not mpeg4? |
| [07:17:00] | xris: | I don't even know if it's enabled without manual editing of pro files. |
| [07:17:00] | geoff__998e: | thanksanyway |
| [07:17:00] | xris: | Chipdancer: um, xvid *is* mpeg4 |
| [07:17:00] | Chipdancer: | ahh, I was wondering |
| [07:17:00] | xris: | xvid == open source implementation of divx |
| [07:18:00] | Chipdancer: | why refer to it as xvid? is that the raw codec |
| [07:18:00] | Chipdancer: | ahh, I see.. |
| [07:18:00] | Chipdancer: | thanks for clearing that up for me |
| [07:18:00] | xris: | divx =~ mpeg4 (what mpeg4 really IS is up for debate, though) |
| [07:18:00] | Krazylegz: | Chipdancer: I didn't understand that until I started playing with vlc. |
| [07:18:00] | xris: | divx and xvid are not completely identical... but close enough for me. |
| [07:18:00] | xris: | and I can't get transcode to do divx on my system, so I use xvid. |
| [07:18:00] | Chutt: | they're different implementations of the mpeg4 simple profile |
| [07:19:00] | xris: | there. Chutt to the rescue. :) |
| [07:19:00] | Chutt: | format's the same, really |
| [07:19:00] | Chutt: | code's slightly different |
| [07:19:00] | xris: | afk for awhile. |
| [07:23:00] | geoff__998e: | from trac: |
| [07:23:00] | geoff__998e: | To use the MPEG2 transcoding you will need to add an entry to the recordingprofiles table. Something like |
| [07:23:00] | geoff__998e: | update recordingprofiles set videocodec = "MPEG-2" where name = "MPEG2"; |
| [07:23:00] | geoff__998e: | should do it. |
| [07:25:00] | geoff__998e: | You can also use "--mpeg2" on the command line for mythtranscode. |
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| [07:26:00] | Chipdancer: | geoff__998e: have you tested that as yet? |
| [07:27:00] | geoff__998e: | I'm working on it |
| [07:27:00] | Chipdancer: | awesome.. let me know when you have it working |
| [07:27:00] | Chipdancer: | I'm much interested |
| [07:27:00] | Chipdancer: | and pretending to work right now |
| [07:27:00] | geoff__998e: | I'm wondering if it is going to remove the commercial breaks automagically or if I have to tell it to, I have never transcoded to remove commercials before |
| [07:28:00] | geoff__998e: | will it pick up the list from mythcommflag? |
| [07:28:00] | Chipdancer: | transcoding automatically uses assigned cut points.. but I don't know about the output of mythcommflag |
| [07:28:00] | Chipdancer: | I always edit first to make certain it's correct |
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| [07:28:00] | Chipdancer: | and besides, you need to load the commercial flagging cutpoints once you have started edit mode |
| [07:28:00] | Agrajag-: | use --honorcutlist if you're running mythtranscode from commandline to do cutlist |
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| [07:29:00] | Chipdancer: | Agrajag-: where are cutlists stored? |
| [07:30:00] | Agrajag-: | recorded table |
| [07:30:00] | Agrajag-: | cutlist field |
| [07:30:00] | geoff__998e: | Agrajag-: and is there a way to do it from the jobqueue? |
| [07:30:00] | Agrajag-: | dunno, i dont use the jobqueue |
| [07:30:00] | ** Chipdancer knows that using manually edited cut lists works from the job queue when you tell a program to transcode ** | |
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| [07:31:00] | geoff__998e: | k, I have modified my database.... *crosses fingers* |
| [07:31:00] | geoff__998e: | lets try it |
| [07:32:00] | geoff__998e: | Chipdancer: how do you load the cutlist when editing? |
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| [07:33:00] | geoff__998e: | *geoff has set up the mpeg2 -> mpeg2 transcoding profile in the frontend* |
| [07:35:00] | geoff__998e: | hmmm |
| [07:35:00] | geoff__998e: | edit mode hangs on my mac frontend... |
| [07:35:00] | geoff__998e: | need to move to the pc |
| [07:35:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | ok, are there dvb cards with a hardware mpeg2 encoder? |
| [07:36:00] | geoff__998e: | or just do command line |
| [07:36:00] | geoff__998e: | dvb steams are mpeg 2 |
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| [07:36:00] | geoff__998e: | there is no encoding necessary |
| [07:36:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | ah, right. explains lots. so it's just recording straight down. |
| [07:36:00] | geoff__998e: | afaik |
| [07:36:00] | Agrajag-: | yep |
| [07:36:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | doesn't need that conversion.... |
| [07:36:00] | ** WAR_CH|LD sigh's with understanding. ** | |
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| [07:38:00] | geoff__998e: | can someone give me an example of using mythtranscode on the command line? |
| [07:38:00] | geoff__998e: | ie how do I tell it which program? |
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| [07:40:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | awesome |
| [07:40:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | thanks guys |
| [07:40:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | this #, so helpful. |
| [07:40:00] | WAR_CH|LD: | totally rocks |
| [07:41:00] | geoff__998e: | nm, mythtranscode --help |
| [07:41:00] | geoff__998e: | shows how tired I am |
| [07:41:00] | Agrajag-: | this explains how nuvexport uses it, you probably want to run things in a similar way: https://svn.forevermore.net/nuvexport/wiki/debug |
| [07:46:00] | geoff__998e: | Agrajag-: and how does one find the chanid and startime of a recording? |
| [07:47:00] | eric_: | can someone please help me fix my problem? watching liveTV, when a fast motion occurs ( like a pitcher throwing a baseball )... the video looks kinda like... how would i say... slow... like a little blurry... kinda like the pitcher's arms are shown in different position as he's throwing the ball... hwo can i fix this? |
| [07:47:00] | geoff__998e: | I tried mythtranscode --honorcutlist --mpeg2 -c 1060 -s 20051005200000 --showprogress and it said: Couldn't find recording 1060 |
| [07:47:00] | geoff__998e: | eric_: you need to turn on deinterlacing in the setup |
| [07:49:00] | xris: | and/or turn up the bitrate |
| [07:50:00] | laga: | eric_: enable deinterlacing |
| [07:50:00] | laga: | darn, sorry. not fully awake yet, geoff__998e :) |
| [07:52:00] | geoff__998e: | np |
| [07:52:00] | geoff__998e: | xris: mpeg2 -> mpeg2 in progress |
| [07:52:00] | geoff__998e: | will let you know how it turns out |
| [07:57:00] | xris: | geoff__998e: cool |
| [07:58:00] | laga: | I just wanted to let everyone know that I am currently implementing uPNP for |
| [07:58:00] | laga: | MythBackend. I am focusing on the Content Directory Service (CDS) first and |
| [07:58:00] | laga: | plan on making it extensible to allow add-ins the ability to register there |
| [07:58:00] | laga: | own content to be listed. |
| [07:58:00] | laga: | oops, sorry :/ |
| [07:58:00] | laga: | anyways, still interesting ;). david blaine to -dev |
| [08:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | can somebody please help me figure out why jobs are not being done that are in queue? |
| [08:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | my jobqueue just stopped working :/ |
| [08:05:00] | eric_: | i already turned on deinterlacing and it doesn't make a difference... i heard deinterlacing is only for monitors anyways, i'm having these problems on my tv... |
| [08:05:00] | travolta: | SlicerDicer, look in mythbackend log |
| [08:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | travolta, looking |
| [08:05:00] | travolta: | probably cause some stuff isnt in your path |
| [08:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what should I be looking for? |
| [08:06:00] | geoff__998e: | xris: seemed to remove the commercials okay |
| [08:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont see anything odd |
| [08:06:00] | xris: | geoff__998e: cool |
| [08:06:00] | geoff__998e: | but ff / rw is totaly broken after mpeg2 -> mpeg2 transcode |
| [08:06:00] | travolta: | do you have it so it runs jobs on that backend? |
| [08:06:00] | xris: | ok, that sounds familiar |
| [08:06:00] | geoff__998e: | all blocky with ghosty images |
| [08:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yep travolta I do |
| [08:07:00] | travolta: | set it up from mythtv-setup ? |
| [08:07:00] | geoff__998e: | I bet with the rebuild keyframes option it would work though |
| [08:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it usto work |
| [08:07:00] | eric_: | xris: i can turn up the bitrate when it comes to "watching tv" and not recordings? |
| [08:07:00] | travolta: | dunno then |
| [08:08:00] | geoff__998e: | eric_ yes, just edit the recording profile called live tc |
| [08:08:00] | geoff__998e: | tv |
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| [08:08:00] | eric_: | ok, thanks |
| [08:08:00] | eric_: | whats XvMC MPEG decoding? |
| [08:15:00] | xris: | eric_: if you have an nvidia card... |
| [08:16:00] | eric_: | i have a geforce fx 5200... what does this option do? |
| [08:21:00] | Chipdancer: | eric_: significantly increases the performance of video decoding by pushing most of it off to the GPU of your graphics card |
| [08:21:00] | Chipdancer: | leaves your CPU to run other tasks while watching recordings |
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| [08:30:00] | eric_: | does this whole fast-motion thing not looking deal with the nature of mpeg encoding? |
| [08:30:00] | eric_: | btw, thanks guys =) |
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| [08:40:00] | kaiyn: | hey, if anyone is around.. im looking at hardware for a kinda beater old box thats running myth... lookin at pvr-350 and had a question about the remote |
| [08:40:00] | kaiyn: | was wondering if the remote + lirc will only be able to control the pvr-350 interface or will work with say, a bttv 2nd capture device |
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| [08:41:00] | kaiyn: | i guess.. thinking out loud... the remote would interface w/ lirc to control mythtv itself.. which would call appropriate change channel scripts... is that correct? |
| [08:41:00] | Rince: | that's correct |
| [08:41:00] | kaiyn: | ok, that makes sense then.. so it would work provided teh remote/hardware work with lirc (which i read they do..) |
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| [08:42:00] | kaiyn: | and one more question... theres no internal (i.e. pci card) solution for digital cable or satellite, correct? only an external receiver would work for that... |
| [08:43:00] | Rince: | for what kind of solution? |
| [08:43:00] | kaiyn: | directv |
| [08:43:00] | kaiyn: | via just video/audio capture on the PC |
| [08:43:00] | kaiyn: | right now i have a cheapo bttv card + external receiver hooked up via serial |
| [08:43:00] | Rince: | well – the pvr350 _is_ a pci card |
| [08:43:00] | Rince: | you just plug in the analog tv-stream and fetch it |
| [08:43:00] | kaiyn: | yes, but i'd have to use analag stream to it |
| [08:44:00] | kaiyn: | yeah, thats what i was wondering |
| [08:44:00] | kaiyn: | theres no like.. "directv tuner" card solutions at all, right? |
| [08:44:00] | Rince: | yes, that's right |
| [08:44:00] | kaiyn: | ok |
| [08:44:00] | kaiyn: | thanks a bunch for the hlep |
| [08:44:00] | kaiyn: | appreciate it |
| [08:44:00] | kaiyn: | i'm sure i'll be around :) |
| [08:44:00] | kaiyn: | have a good night |
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| [09:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey mchou you around? |
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| [09:08:00] | rage-: | is there any way to search the epg without going to scheduling options? |
| [09:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://www.rezsoft.org:6544/ umm no? I searched google for help on something and omg look at that space... |
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| [09:31:00] | Agrajag-: | SlicerDicer-: who's myth box is that? learly 2tb!? |
| [09:31:00] | Agrajag-: | how does someone watch so much tv |
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| [09:32:00] | Agrajag-: | s/learly/nearly |
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| [09:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha Agrajag- |
| [09:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | that was nearly 2 million mb's |
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| [10:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | is anybody around? |
| [10:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | :/ |
| [10:24:00] | rage-: | yup |
| [10:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey rage- can you do me a favor? |
| [10:26:00] | rage-: | I can try |
| [10:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | open mythtv-setup and tell me the defaults for "job queue" area? |
| [10:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | if yours is still defaults |
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| [10:29:00] | rage-: | I can't see the job queue check frequency box |
| [10:29:00] | rage-: | start time: 00:00 |
| [10:29:00] | rage-: | end time: 23:59 |
| [10:29:00] | rage-: | cpu usage: low |
| [10:30:00] | rage-: | I've got my commercial detection jobs checked, don't know if I changed that |
| [10:30:00] | rage-: | and all the boxes on the right (allow) are unchecked |
| [10:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok |
| [10:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mine was end time 00:00 for some reason |
| [10:30:00] | rage-: | on the next page all 3 boxes are unchecked |
| [10:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | perhaps thats my problem |
| [10:32:00] | rage-: | you know your myth stuff fairly well? |
| [10:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah pretty well |
| [10:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | need help with something? |
| [10:33:00] | rage-: | a few things |
| [10:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I was messing with jobqueue stuff cause it crapped out so I needed defaults heh |
| [10:33:00] | rage-: | most simple, what do I have to do be able to transcode my recordings? |
| [10:34:00] | rage-: | do I have to go to the recording profiles and set one up? |
| [10:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah you should |
| [10:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what card you have? |
| [10:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hauppauge? |
| [10:34:00] | rage-: | nah its a soft card |
| [10:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hmm I am not sure how other cards work :/ |
| [10:35:00] | rage-: | running an xp2200+ |
| [10:35:00] | rage-: | well how does myth know which of these profiles to use? |
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| [10:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well mine is a hauppauge so it knows to use mpeg2 transcoding |
| [10:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | at least thats how I understand it :) |
| [10:37:00] | rage-: | ok well lets try this one |
| [10:37:00] | rage-: | do you know anything about audio track selection? |
| [10:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am not quite sure what you are refering too here |
| [10:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | can you please elaborate a bit more |
| [10:40:00] | rage-: | when I go to a channel that has multiple audio tracks available, it by default picks audio track 2 |
| [10:40:00] | rage-: | which isn't the one I want |
| [10:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh hell I have no idea on that one sorry :/ |
| [10:41:00] | rage-: | bleh, transcoding still isn't working |
| [10:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | transcoding took me alot of effort to get working |
| [10:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it was worth it though :) |
| [10:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am finally using it |
| [10:44:00] | batdog is now known as batdog|gone | |
| [10:44:00] | batdog|gone is now known as batdog | |
| [10:44:00] | rage-: | hrmph. |
| [10:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I wish I knew how to help you with it |
| [10:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | did you press x to start transcoding while watching a video? |
| [10:46:00] | rage-: | I've got a recorded video up |
| [10:46:00] | rage-: | and I go into the menu and go to "start transcoding" |
| [10:46:00] | rage-: | it displays "starting transcoding" or w/e in the top left |
| [10:46:00] | rage-: | but transcode never runs |
| [10:46:00] | Chipdancer: | I try x and o in edit mode but nothing seems to happen |
| [10:46:00] | rage-: | I've changed all my keys |
| [10:46:00] | Chipdancer: | to start transcoding, I need to go back to the recording selection screen and queue it from there |
| [10:47:00] | rage-: | oooo wait |
| [10:47:00] | rage-: | there it went.. |
| [10:47:00] | rage-: | I restarted the front end and its doing it now |
| [10:47:00] | rage-: | question is.. which freaking profile is it using |
| [10:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | 10507 root 39 17 64216 34m 10m R 96.2 6.9 15:34.53 mythtranscode |
| [10:47:00] | Chipdancer: | rage-: transcoding is run by a batch process that checks the job queue typically every minute |
| [10:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | should look something like that when its running |
| [10:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | in top anyway |
| [10:47:00] | Chipdancer: | ok, time to make dinner |
| [10:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | rage-, what distro you use for myth? |
| [10:48:00] | rage-: | gentoo |
| [10:48:00] | rage-: | I'm running it on one of my workstations ;) |
| [10:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well this helps alot :) |
| [10:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I do know gentoo hehe |
| [10:49:00] | rage-: | I wish it asked "what profile do you want to use" |
| [10:49:00] | rage-: | or something |
| [10:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | do you want to see my make.conf for mythtv and compare? |
| [10:49:00] | rage-: | or at least tell you which its using |
| [10:49:00] | rage-: | you put something in your make.conf? o.0 |
| [10:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it could be some missing use flags |
| [10:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | rage-, hell yeah hehe |
| [10:50:00] | rage-: | I didn't emerge myth |
| [10:50:00] | rage-: | I compiled |
| [10:50:00] | rage-: | manually |
| [10:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | why not emerge? |
| [10:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cause it was masked? |
| [10:50:00] | rage-: | because I like to go bleeding edge sometimes |
| [10:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [10:51:00] | rage-: | so I'm giving the SVN some trials |
| [10:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I would not bet on everything working then :) |
| [10:51:00] | rage-: | this transcode is maxing out my cpu |
| [10:51:00] | rage-: | buti t's going pretty d amn fast |
| [10:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its transcoding now? |
| [10:51:00] | rage-: | I'm on 18.1 right now |
| [10:51:00] | rage-: | yeah |
| [10:51:00] | rage-: | I dicked with the profiles and now it's doing it |
| [10:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | you compiled 18.1? |
| [10:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | manually? |
| [10:51:00] | rage-: | yeah |
| [10:52:00] | rage-: | yeah |
| [10:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | errm dude.... |
| [10:52:00] | rage-: | after trying a few of the svn |
| [10:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | [ebuild R ] media-tv/mythtv-0.18.1-r2 +alsa (-altivec) +arts -debug -dvb -frontendonly -ieee1394 -jack -joystick -lcd +lirc -mmx +nvidia* +opengl +oss -unichrome +vorbis 0 kB |
| [10:52:00] | rage-: | I know |
| [10:52:00] | rage-: | but I plan on going back to svn |
| [10:52:00] | rage-: | just wanted to get a feel for it 'stable' before I moved on |
| [10:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | righto |
| [10:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | when it comes to something I use everyday my motto is not if it aint broke fix it till it is ;) unless I am expanding features of course for myth but I havent done that in over a month *grin* it pretty much does everything |
| [10:53:00] | rage-: | oh? what have you done to yours |
| [10:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well lets see... |
| [10:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I run dvds, steam AFL "australian football league", stream news, stream radio, watch tv, record videos, rip dvds, transcode videos, run mythweb and more than likely things I am not thinking of at the moment :) |
| [10:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | stream AFL rather |
| [10:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it does alot |
| [10:56:00] | rage-: | mythweb? |
| [10:56:00] | rage-: | web browser or web configuration util |
| [10:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well mythweb rocks |
| [10:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [10:57:00] | rage-: | which do you do? |
| [10:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it allows me to do recording schedules, status of backend I mean a ton |
| [10:58:00] | rage-: | so the web interface, right? |
| [10:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yep |
| [10:58:00] | rage-: | you mess with the video/music stuff at all? |
| [10:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mythvideo you mean? |
| [10:58:00] | rage-: | I'm wondering if I can have myth play divx/mp3s |
| [10:58:00] | rage-: | ones I didn't make/rip with myth |
| [10:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | sure if you rip a dvd to avi it can play it |
| [10:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it uses mplayer to do it but it works |
| [10:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | if thats what you mean |
| [10:59:00] | rage-: | but can you like.. import some avis into myth? |
| [11:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | sure |
| [11:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I ftp them over |
| [11:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and use the selection "watch videos" |
| [11:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it will automagicly scan the folder you specify and find new videos |
| [11:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | then you can can even scan for album art if its a movie and put it on there |
| [11:01:00] | rage-: | can it do the same with mp3s? |
| [11:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | just keep in mind if you want that to work on all your boxes you will need nfs AFAIK |
| [11:01:00] | rage-: | via mythmusic |
| [11:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I havent done mp3's but I dont see why not |
| [11:02:00] | rage-: | well all I saw about mythmusic was cd ripping stuff |
| [11:02:00] | rage-: | in the online manual |
| [11:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it has a player I think |
| [11:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | let me check |
| [11:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have the feature on my box I dont use it |
| [11:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but its there |
| [11:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah it seems you can play them with "listen to music" this is all of course if you have it setup correctly |
| [11:03:00] | rage-: | does it ask you to specify a folder or ? |
| [11:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | you have to do it in myth setup menus for it |
| [11:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its pretty easy to do |
| [11:07:00] | rage-: | hrm I can't delete a recording group |
| [11:07:00] | rage-: | I made a new one and I want to get rid of it |
| [11:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | you may have to go in the database and remove it that way :) although if your not comfortable working with the database I would not advise it |
| [11:08:00] | rage-: | already there >;) |
| [11:09:00] | rage-: | ok since one of these has my hostmask next to it |
| [11:09:00] | rage-: | I'm assuming that's the one I'm using |
| [11:09:00] | rage-: | odd that theres even others in there, since I see no place in there to "select' them by selecting my host in them like the group I created |
| [11:10:00] | rage-: | now my question becomes... how does it know which to use in here? between Default, Live TV, High Quality, and Low Quality |
| [11:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well with mythweb I only use one for recording and thats default :) |
| [11:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I use mythweb to start all recording so I am not the person to ask otherwise |
| [11:11:00] | rage-: | you do all your scheduling with mythweb? o.0 |
| [11:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah |
| [11:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its easier |
| [11:12:00] | rage-: | if you're sitting at your pc, yeah |
| [11:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | view programming schedule on a widescreen computer moniter its bliss :) |
| [11:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
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| [11:17:00] | rage-: | I wish I could figure that audio track problem out... |
| [11:17:00] | rage-: | I go to record something and it picks the wrong audio track |
| [11:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont quite follow what you mean by that |
| [11:20:00] | rage-: | I schedule a recording on a channel with multiple audio streams, and it by default picks audio stream 2 |
| [11:21:00] | rage-: | but that's not right. |
| [11:21:00] | rage-: | I need audio track 1 to be default |
| [11:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I know nothing about that |
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| [11:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well rage- I am heading off to sleep |
| [11:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I hope I helped some |
| [11:28:00] | rage-: | you have :) |
| [11:29:00] | rage-: | thanks man |
| [11:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yep |
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| [11:35:00] | fryfrog: | OT: Does anyone know what you call the "mod" you can do to ATI drivers that lets you install them on a lappy? |
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| [11:48:00] | otwin: | rage-: are you in PAL land? |
| [11:48:00] | rage-: | nope |
| [11:49:00] | otwin: | because i never got those multiple audio tracks to work here... |
| [11:49:00] | rage-: | well I can manually switch tracks |
| [11:49:00] | rage-: | that works fine |
| [11:49:00] | rage-: | but I wish it'd auto-select the right one.. |
| [11:49:00] | rage-: | otherwise I can't schedule recordings on multiple audio track channels |
| [11:50:00] | otwin: | can't help you there, because i can't even choose between streams... |
| [11:59:00] | rage-: | when you're watching livetv, myth isn't converting it at all is it? |
| [11:59:00] | rage-: | or reducing quality or anything |
| [11:59:00] | rage-: | because I notice a lot of horizontal lines in fast moving video |
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| [12:08:00] | Affa: | What's the deal with Gentoo and the 4.1 mysql version? Will MythTV compile and find the QT mysql plugin if I upgrade past mysql 4.0??? |
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| [12:52:00] | Affa: | wazzup everybody |
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| [13:37:00] | Dagmar: | rage-: That's probably due to the interlacing in your source |
| [13:37:00] | Dagmar: | Someone needs to get around to folding tvtime into the code |
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| [14:35:00] | ChanServ sets mode +o Beirdo | |
| [14:35:00] | Beirdo sets mode +b kazer!*@* | |
| [14:36:00] | KaZeR was kicked from #mythtv-users by Beirdo | |
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| [14:40:00] | Beirdo: | oops, my bad |
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| [14:40:00] | ChanServ sets mode +o Beirdo | |
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| [14:40:00] | Beirdo sets mode -b Kazer!*@* | |
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| [14:40:00] | KaZeR: | home sweet home :) |
| [14:40:00] | Beirdo sets mode +b Kazan!*@* | |
| [14:40:00] | laga: | kazer is the same person as kazan? huh? |
| [14:41:00] | Beirdo: | there |
| [14:41:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [14:41:00] | KaZeR: | no :) |
| [14:41:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [14:41:00] | Beirdo: | my brain sucks |
| [14:41:00] | KaZeR: | hi laga btw |
| [14:41:00] | laga: | heya KaZeR ;) |
| [14:41:00] | Beirdo sets mode -o Beirdo | |
| [14:41:00] | laga: | Beirdo: hehe |
| [14:41:00] | KaZeR: | i agree that theses nick can be somewhat confusing :) |
| [14:41:00] | Beirdo: | my apologies, KaZeR. Time for me to go make coffee |
| [14:41:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [14:41:00] | KaZeR: | np Beirdo :) |
| [14:41:00] | Rince: | :) |
| [14:42:00] | KaZeR: | Beirdo, since you're there, i opened a ticked for nuvexport, foreign languages and mplayer file format detection. |
| [14:42:00] | KaZeR: | i wonder if anybody had a look at it :) |
| [14:42:00] | KaZeR: | was around a month ago |
| [14:43:00] | KaZeR: | https://svn.forevermore.net/nuvexport/ticket/46 precisely |
| [14:45:00] | Beirdo: | I haven't, no |
| [14:45:00] | Beirdo: | I haven't looked at much of that in a bit, my girlfriend, soon to be fiancee is holding my interest :) |
| [14:45:00] | laga: | i think one could just call mplayer within an environment where the language is set to english |
| [14:46:00] | Beirdo: | you all should just use English.. heheh |
| [14:46:00] | Beirdo: | let me go take a look at that now while the coffee brews |
| [14:46:00] | laga: | i do :) |
| [14:49:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [14:49:00] | Beirdo: | not sure why that wouldn't be working as is |
| [14:49:00] | Beirdo: | been a while though |
| [14:49:00] | Beirdo: | I think it's using the ID_ lines |
| [14:50:00] | Beirdo: | Oooooh |
| [14:50:00] | Beirdo: | I see |
| [14:50:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [14:50:00] | KaZeR: | :) |
| [14:50:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [14:50:00] | Beirdo: | as laga said, maybe we should see if we can launch it in an English environment |
| [14:50:00] | KaZeR: | i made a quick and dirty fix, but it's far from perfect (keeps complaining when i try to mpeg cut, so i commented the die line) |
| [14:50:00] | KaZeR: | sure i can try. |
| [14:51:00] | KaZeR: | what's the env variable? |
| [14:51:00] | KaZeR: | LANG=en_en ? |
| [14:51:00] | Beirdo: | LANG I think |
| [14:51:00] | KaZeR: | k |
| [14:51:00] | Beirdo: | LANG=en_us |
| [14:51:00] | Beirdo: | en_US rather |
| [14:51:00] | laga: | en_US i think, dunno if it's case sensitive |
| [14:51:00] | Beirdo: | sorry |
| [14:51:00] | Beirdo: | mine has en_US.UTF-8 |
| [14:51:00] | Beirdo: | but en_US should do it |
| [14:51:00] | KaZeR: | ok |
| [14:52:00] | KaZeR: | damn my home's internet is down, i won't be able to test it yet. |
| [14:52:00] | Beirdo: | because if that fixes it, then we should fix nuvexport to launch the subprocess in English all the time, and the problem should be fixed :) |
| [14:52:00] | Beirdo: | stupid multilanguage support :) |
| [14:52:00] | KaZeR: | what should i do? LANG=en_US nuvexport ? |
| [14:52:00] | KaZeR: | Beirdo, i agree :) |
| [14:53:00] | Beirdo: | that'd be a good way to try it, yes |
| [14:53:00] | KaZeR: | ok. |
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| [14:53:00] | KaZeR: | i'll let you know if it works :) |
| [14:53:00] | Beirdo: | cool |
| [14:53:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [14:54:00] | FairWtns: | Sup ppl. |
| [14:54:00] | KaZeR: | hi FairWtns |
| [14:54:00] | KaZeR: | Beirdo, getting fianced so? mmmmm |
| [14:54:00] | KaZeR: | :) |
| [14:54:00] | ** laga hopes she's a good cook ** | |
| [14:54:00] | FairWtns: | Roadmap is looking good for .19. Huzzah. |
| [14:54:00] | laga: | FairWtns: right!! |
| [14:54:00] | FairWtns: | Beirdo:You tie the knot yet? |
| [14:55:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [14:55:00] | Beirdo: | not quite, getting there |
| [14:55:00] | Beirdo: | going to be engaged in a couple weeks |
| [14:55:00] | FairWtns: | Never got to say Congrats. |
| [14:55:00] | Beirdo: | thanks :) |
| [14:55:00] | laga: | heh |
| [14:55:00] | FairWtns: | np. Trying to get their with my girl too. Just got some stuff to sort out first. |
| [14:56:00] | Beirdo: | always the case |
| [14:56:00] | FairWtns: | Yeah. I won't bore you with the details. |
| [14:56:00] | FairWtns: | I've been meaning to try nuvexport mpeg2 cutting again. Haven't in awhile. |
| [14:56:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [14:57:00] | Beirdo: | Oooh, coffee's ready |
| [14:57:00] | Beirdo: | BRB |
| [14:57:00] | FairWtns: | Yeah, I need a refill. |
| [14:57:00] | laga: | caffeine is bad for you |
| [14:57:00] | FairWtns: | Ppl tell me smoking and drinking is too. |
| [14:58:00] | ** FairWtns shrugs. ** | |
| [14:58:00] | Beirdo: | eat me, I need coffee :) |
| [14:58:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [14:58:00] | Beirdo: | just ask KaZeR |
| [14:58:00] | ** FairWtns hacks for a bit. ** | |
| [14:58:00] | FairWtns: | Damn cold. |
| [15:00:00] | Beirdo: | Oh good GOD, Bacardi is fuckin slow |
| [15:00:00] | FairWtns: | ? |
| [15:00:00] | laga: | Beirdo: with making you drunk? |
| [15:00:00] | Beirdo: | in JULY I sent them a question for when I was gonna be in Puerto Rico |
| [15:00:00] | Beirdo: | I got a response last night |
| [15:00:00] | Beirdo: | idiots |
| [15:01:00] | Beirdo: | and I even said I was going in August |
| [15:01:00] | FairWtns: | Hehe. Well, in their defense, what would *you* be doing if you worked for Bacardi? |
| [15:01:00] | KaZeR: | Beirdo, yes you do. feel better now ? |
| [15:01:00] | Beirdo: | not working |
| [15:01:00] | Beirdo: | I was asking if cameras were allowed on the distillery tour |
| [15:02:00] | FairWtns: | I need a dual monitor setup. |
| [15:02:00] | FairWtns: | Hey, I've been looking at a 26" LCD TV. It's got VGA inputs, what's up with those? Does that solve the refresh rate problem? |
| [15:03:00] | ** Beirdo shrugs ** | |
| [15:03:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [15:03:00] | FairWtns: | The deal is too good to be true. Yet so tempting. |
| [15:05:00] | KaZeR: | FairWtns, where did you saw 0.19's roadmap? any ETA on it? |
| [15:06:00] | ** KaZeR isn't even using all new 0.18 features like enhanced commercials detection :D ** | |
| [15:06:00] | FairWtns: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/roadmap |
| [15:06:00] | laga: | does anyone know how i would enable realtime commercial flagging? |
| [15:07:00] | FairWtns: | I'm still fighting with Qt to make my simple file copy/move dialog to work with the remote. |
| [15:07:00] | FairWtns: | laga:It's in the setup somewheres. I wouldn't recommend it though. Easier to just do a 2min jump. |
| [15:07:00] | Beirdo: | mmmmm. coffee |
| [15:08:00] | laga: | FairWtns: oh, ok. |
| [15:08:00] | KaZeR: | thanks FairWtns |
| [15:09:00] | KaZeR: | nice! |
| [15:10:00] | FairWtns: | Realtime commflagging has to analyze frames one by one and do a compare. When I used it (I think back in .17) it would take a minimum of 10 seconds, and it wasn't always accurate. Since most commercials last two minutes, entering "2" then pressing "right" jumps two minutes. If that's not enough, I just "right" which I have set to 30sec jump. |
| [15:11:00] | laga: | ok, thank you very much. when you say that commercials last two minutes, to you mean the whole block of commercials? |
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| [15:12:00] | FairWtns: | Generally television shows take commercial breaks at exactly two minute intervals. At least in the US. Sometimes, although for me it's rare, they take a 2:10 or 3min break. But if you have your jump keys set nicely, you can easily skip to almost exactly where you need. |
| [15:12:00] | laga: | ok. |
| [15:13:00] | FairWtns: | Well, not *at* two minutes, but *for* two minutes. |
| [15:13:00] | laga: | our commercials breaks are like 5–7 minutes. |
| [15:13:00] | FairWtns: | laga:Where's this? |
| [15:14:00] | FairWtns: | crap. laundry. brb. |
| [15:14:00] | laga: | FairWtns: germany |
| [15:14:00] | Beirdo: | you poor wurst-eating bastard :) |
| [15:14:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [15:15:00] | Beirdo: | just kidding |
| [15:16:00] | dopester: | as opposed too the poor hockey fans who got to watch a shootout last night? :) |
| [15:16:00] | Beirdo: | shut up, my PVR cut off at 40s left in the game |
| [15:16:00] | laga: | nothing wrong with wurst. and Beirdo, wtf do you think i'm using commflagging? ;) |
| [15:16:00] | Beirdo: | laga: I was kidding, silly |
| [15:17:00] | laga: | Beirdo: i know ;) |
| [15:17:00] | Beirdo: | DAMMIT |
| [15:17:00] | Beirdo: | and I missed the Sens finally kicking the Leafs' asses?! |
| [15:17:00] | Beirdo: | dammit! |
| [15:17:00] | Beirdo: | they sure were sucking at the beginning of the game |
| [15:19:00] | dopester: | does a shootout count as an ass whipping? |
| [15:19:00] | Beirdo: | good to see the better team won ;) |
| [15:19:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [15:19:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [15:19:00] | dopester: | im waiting for the nhl to install a shot clock next year |
| [15:19:00] | Beirdo: | I guess Alfredsson's earning his pay anyways |
| [15:20:00] | Beirdo: | 3–2 Alfredsson vs. Leafs |
| [15:20:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [15:20:00] | dopester: | do something to increase scoring to that of basketball.. |
| [15:20:00] | dopester: | hehe |
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| [15:21:00] | Beirdo: | I should wear the Sens jersey again today |
| [15:21:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [15:21:00] | Beirdo: | nothing like gloating |
| [15:21:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [15:36:00] | sphing: | women women and pounding your fingers while making your desk |
| [15:36:00] | sphing: | desk = deck |
| [15:36:00] | FairWtns: | Is that a quote? |
| [15:36:00] | FairWtns: | "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing." |
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| [16:04:00] | DonLKSAB: | Hi all |
| [16:04:00] | DonLKSAB: | Anyone here know anything about XF86config-4 files? |
| [16:04:00] | sphing: | i use xorg but ask anyway |
| [16:04:00] | sphing: | they're similar |
| [16:04:00] | DonLKSAB: | I want my myth machine to start on the DVI connection |
| [16:05:00] | DonLKSAB: | Not on the VGA |
| [16:05:00] | sphing: | hmm... dont have DVI so I can't help from experience... what card? |
| [16:05:00] | DonLKSAB: | So myth uses the whole res of the TV i have connected to the DVI |
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| [16:05:00] | DonLKSAB: | nVidia |
| [16:05:00] | knoppix__ is now known as FairWtns | |
| [16:05:00] | FairWtns: | Dang xChat |
| [16:05:00] | laga: | hehe |
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| [16:06:00] | sphing: | DonLKSAB: what card. |
| [16:06:00] | DonLKSAB: | nvidia 5200 |
| [16:08:00] | FairWtns: | Now that I'm back in linux, I forget what my reasoning was for booting into it. Besides being cool, of course. |
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| [16:09:00] | FairWtns: | Beirdo: How about adding the svn url to the title? |
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| [16:10:00] | mark__: | Am i actually on the mythtv-users chat? Man, am i ever a noob. |
| [16:11:00] | laga: | mark__: yep, you are :) |
| [16:11:00] | sphing: | DonLKSAB: have yougoogled... i'm finding alot on nvidia and DVI |
| [16:11:00] | DonLKSAB: | Im on it |
| [16:12:00] | mark__: | i don't think i ever used a chat before.. no that's wrong, never productively |
| [16:12:00] | sphing: | mark__: you've never chatted online? |
| [16:12:00] | mark__: | don't think so |
| [16:12:00] | mark__: | it's kinda weird |
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| [16:13:00] | sphing: | haha... thats impressive |
| [16:13:00] | mark__: | i mean, here i am in my pc room and i'm talking to people i don't know |
| [16:13:00] | mark__: | i suppose it's about time |
| [16:13:00] | sphing: | here I am... in class... talking to you |
| [16:13:00] | ** DarkBeer_ points and laughs at mark__ ** | |
| [16:13:00] | mark__: | what class |
| [16:13:00] | ** sphing loves the internet ** | |
| [16:13:00] | sphing: | Legal and Social Issues in computing |
| [16:14:00] | mark__: | undergrad? |
| [16:14:00] | sphing: | yup |
| [16:14:00] | mark__: | may i ask which U? |
| [16:14:00] | sphing: | Florida |
| [16:14:00] | mark__: | cool |
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| [16:14:00] | mark__: | i wish i had this available when i was in school |
| [16:15:00] | sphing: | ha. yea its pretty nice |
| [16:15:00] | mark__: | is there a reason you're on the mythtv channel? |
| [16:15:00] | sphing: | ... because I use mythtv |
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| [16:16:00] | sphing: | mark__: how long you been on the internet? |
| [16:16:00] | mark__: | i have a ms mce 2005, but i'm getting old on ms |
| [16:16:00] | mark__: | i like the underground feel of linux |
| [16:17:00] | mark__: | well, gotta go, nice talking to you , later |
| [16:17:00] | mark__: | how long? |
| [16:17:00] | mark__: | you mean when did i first use it? |
| [16:18:00] | sphing: | yes... you've never chatted.. thats pretty out there |
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| [16:18:00] | mark__: | i suppose in the early 90s |
| [16:18:00] | sphing: | took you 10+ years to start a chat |
| [16:18:00] | mark__: | i had a multi media class at asu |
| [16:18:00] | sphing: | .... welcome |
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| [16:19:00] | ** FairWtns is getting weary again. ** | |
| [16:19:00] | mark__: | dont' recall, irc was always uhh uncomfortable |
| [16:20:00] | mark__: | here's what's even more weird, i have a bs in computer science |
| [16:20:00] | laga: | BS? |
| [16:20:00] | mark__: | yah, never really used it professionally |
| [16:21:00] | mark__: | i'm thinking of a redhat certification, maybe engineer thing |
| [16:21:00] | Krazylegz: | mark__: Same here. I didn't start IRCing until like 6 months after college. |
| [16:21:00] | mark__: | it's now available locally |
| [16:21:00] | mark__: | don't do like me, graduate young and get your foot in the door right away |
| [16:22:00] | mark__: | well, gotta go, nice talking to you , later dude |
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| [16:24:00] | sphing: | Krazylegz: but you chatted no? |
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| [16:27:00] | Krazylegz: | sphing: What do you mean? |
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| [16:47:00] | FairWtns: | mark:I haven't been able to us my bs in cs either. |
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| [16:47:00] | Krazylegz: | He left. |
| [16:47:00] | FairWtns: | I'm working on certs now, as that's what employers want. |
| [16:48:00] | patdk2: | I'm really hating perls hashs |
| [16:49:00] | FairWtns: | Dang. |
| [16:49:00] | FairWtns: | And I wanted to bitch. |
| [16:50:00] | FairWtns: | I love how MS has a trademark on "Word." I believe that says much more than the sentence states. |
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| [16:51:00] | Beirdo: | word. |
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| [16:51:00] | ** FairWtns fines Beirdo $5 for copyright infringement. ** | |
| [16:51:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:51:00] | dft: | when running a single BE/FE do I have to use the tv out on the video card for the front end, or can I just use the outgoing coax line from my pvr250 to the TV? |
| [16:51:00] | Beirdo: | there is no outgoing coax from a PVR250 |
| [16:51:00] | fryfrog: | er, outgoing coax from a 250? |
| [16:51:00] | laga: | the pvr 250 doesnt have an outgoing coax line |
| [16:51:00] | FairWtns: | pvr250 shouldn't have an tv-out. Only the 350 does. |
| [16:52:00] | laga: | hehe. |
| [16:52:00] | fryfrog: | you are probably seeing the FM coax *IN* that is on the MCE |
| [16:52:00] | FairWtns: | Or the coax *in*, if your using composite. |
| [16:52:00] | dft: | ah, makes sense, I haven't even opened the box for my 250 yet |
| [16:53:00] | dft: | so I'll still need a TV out video card...or convince my wife we need a 23" LCD Widescreen to replace the tv:) |
| [16:53:00] | fryfrog: | depends on the inputs of your tv |
| [16:53:00] | FairWtns: | The latter would be preferrable. |
| [16:54:00] | fryfrog: | if it has component or dvi/hdmi, you could use an adapter/cable |
| [16:54:00] | laga: | i've just replaced an 30" lcd with an 25" crt (i think). SDTV and composite makes me eyes bleed :/ |
| [16:54:00] | dft: | current tv is pretty basic, no comp. in just coax |
| [16:54:00] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [16:54:00] | FairWtns: | Woah, that's *way* basic. |
| [16:54:00] | fryfrog: | i replaced my craptv with a 30" CRT Widescreen :) |
| [16:54:00] | fryfrog: | its... the awsome :) |
| [16:54:00] | fryfrog: | wait, *just* coax in? |
| [16:54:00] | laga: | fryfrog: CRT? how much did you pay? |
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| [16:55:00] | fryfrog: | you'll need one of those $20 walmart svideo/composit -> RF adapters |
| [16:55:00] | laga: | fryfrog: can it do hdtv? |
| [16:55:00] | fryfrog: | ~$800 |
| [16:55:00] | fryfrog: | yes, its a HDTV |
| [16:55:00] | laga: | nice. |
| [16:55:00] | fryfrog: | its cheaper than the projection or lcd |
| [16:55:00] | dft: | fryfrog: yeah I thought so |
| [16:55:00] | FairWtns: | fryfrog, :I need a link for *that* baby. I'm looking at a 26" lcd and $750 is the cheapest I can find. What have you got? |
| [16:55:00] | laga: | well, for 1000EUR, i could get myself a 30" LCD hdtv. sad that i dont have the money :) |
| [16:56:00] | FairWtns: | Aaah wait, CRT? That must be massive. |
| [16:56:00] | fryfrog: | I used consumer reports to pick a Sony widescreen CRT |
| [16:56:00] | fryfrog: | well, its only 30" tv so its not THAT big |
| [16:56:00] | fryfrog: | prolly weights about 75lbs? |
| [16:56:00] | FairWtns: | Havent checked them. Been looking for good reviews on TVs. |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | 75lbs? |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | lightweight POS |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [16:57:00] | fryfrog: | if it weren't akwardly shaped, it would be liftable on my own i think? |
| [16:57:00] | ** Beirdo likes his 36" XBR ** | |
| [16:57:00] | fryfrog: | *maybe* 100lbs |
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| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | mine's 330lbs with the stand |
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| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | the stand's almost 100lbs of that |
| [16:57:00] | fryfrog: | CHRIST! |
| [16:58:00] | FairWtns: | What's an XBR? |
| [16:58:00] | fryfrog: | tell me what you seek and i'll tell you what consumer repots says |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | Sony |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | I have the second largest CRT Sony made at the time |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | they had a 40" as well |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | and it's not 4:3, and not 16:9 |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | somewhere between |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | a beautiful TV |
| [16:59:00] | FairWtns: | fryfrog, : I need to replace my 27" CRT (which I got ripped on, horrible contrast ratio) with an LCD version. I'm hoping one with VGA inputs, because I am also hoping that solves the deinterlacing problem. |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | and it only cost me $4kCDN |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:59:00] | ** FairWtns sneaks into Beirdo's house. ** | |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | about 5 years ago or so |
| [16:59:00] | fryfrog: | FairWtns: go for DVI/HDMI inputs |
| [16:59:00] | fryfrog: | and why LCD? |
| [17:00:00] | Beirdo: | we upped our standards, so up yours! |
| [17:00:00] | fryfrog: | CRT HDTV will be better quality |
| [17:01:00] | FairWtns: | fryfrog: I really want something less massive. I don't need super hi-def, just a better picture than this crappy CRT. There are certain games/movies that are simply unwatchable on it. |
| [17:01:00] | fryfrog: | FairWtns: WS or FS? |
| [17:01:00] | fryfrog: | HDTV or not? |
| [17:01:00] | FairWtns: | I would say WS would be nice. |
| [17:01:00] | fryfrog: | 27" FS is about 30" WS btw |
| [17:01:00] | fryfrog: | i mean, a FS imagine on a 30" WS is about 27" |
| [17:02:00] | FairWtns: | Well, I'll be fine with a 26–27" WS. |
| [17:03:00] | fryfrog: | http://pastebin.com/385021 |
| [17:03:00] | fryfrog: | LCD isn't cheap |
| [17:03:00] | FairWtns: | Cheaper than plasma |
| [17:03:00] | fryfrog: | true :) |
| [17:03:00] | fryfrog: | CRT is cheaper than LCD though |
| [17:04:00] | FairWtns: | It's confusing. I was browsing at Best Buy the other day, and the had a 27" WS (Westinghouse I think) for like $850. Right next to it was a 23" Samsung for $1800. Wtf? |
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| [17:05:00] | fryfrog: | http://pastebin.com/385026 |
| [17:05:00] | fryfrog: | LCD has two major problems |
| [17:05:00] | fryfrog: | high speed motion and black |
| [17:05:00] | FairWtns: | That backs up my current findings. The Wega or Aquos. |
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| [17:06:00] | fryfrog: | for $1600, i think you are close to 50" projection range |
| [17:07:00] | fryfrog: | This 50-inch DLP model was judged very good with DVDs as well as HD. At 20 inches, it's a bit deeper than the other recommended microdisplays of this screen size |
| [17:07:00] | fryfrog: | that 50" is $2100 |
| [17:08:00] | fryfrog: | Samsung HLP5085W |
| [17:09:00] | FairWtns: | Yeah, it's way out of budget though. I don't really need that yet. I need a stopgap TV for a year or two. |
| [17:09:00] | fryfrog: | don't get an LCD or HDTV then :) |
| [17:09:00] | fryfrog: | get a cheap FS tv |
| [17:10:00] | fryfrog: | a 32" FS is only like $350 |
| [17:10:00] | FairWtns: | Yeah, but my problem, and it is my problem, is that I spent like $500 on the 27" I have. If I'm going to spend more money on a friggin TV, I had better at least *feel* like I'm upgrading. |
| [17:11:00] | fryfrog: | dang, what kind of 27" tv is it? |
| [17:11:00] | fryfrog: | don't waste $1600 on a stopgap tv :) |
| [17:12:00] | DonLKSAB: | Doh. Why wont my nvidia module load at boot? |
| [17:12:00] | fryfrog: | change kenrels? |
| [17:12:00] | Beirdo: | you didn't tell it to? |
| [17:12:00] | DonLKSAB: | Not that i know of :-) |
| [17:12:00] | DonLKSAB: | Ohh |
| [17:12:00] | DonLKSAB: | Mabey |
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| [17:13:00] | DonLKSAB: | im fiddeling around with the ati-remote.c file |
| [17:13:00] | DonLKSAB: | Could be that |
| [17:13:00] | DonLKSAB: | Anyone have a ATI remote? |
| [17:13:00] | DonLKSAB: | That has "esc" working? |
| [17:14:00] | FairWtns: | I'm looking at this ViewSonic http://tinyurl.com/3rfez which seems to fit the stopgap without breaking my back. |
| [17:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | DonLKSAB: I don't have an ATI remote, but I use one that is based off the same design and use a modified ati_remote driver for it |
| [17:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | and ESC works fine |
| [17:14:00] | DonLKSAB: | Ohhh |
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| [17:14:00] | DonLKSAB: | Do you have a good ati_remote.c that i can steal? |
| [17:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | www.phaze.org/mythtv/ati_remote.c adds support for my remote (Niveus/OneBox) which ias based on the same lola/ati/etc design |
| [17:15:00] | DonLKSAB: | cool |
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| [17:18:00] | Affa: | Any idea why mythtv eats up 500 meg of ram??? |
| [17:18:00] | DonLKSAB: | GreyFoxx do you know if i can trigger scripts from the ati driver? |
| [17:20:00] | fryfrog: | Affa: you sure you are reading memory usage right? |
| [17:20:00] | FairWtns: | Affa, it probably doesnt. |
| [17:20:00] | Affa: | I'm using gentoo.. |
| [17:20:00] | Affa: | and I'm doing an emerge of a package... and mythtv got really really slow. |
| [17:20:00] | Affa: | so I went to look at my top... and it showed I was using swap (I have 1G ram)... |
| [17:20:00] | Affa: | then I killed mythtv... and was back down to using only 400000k of ram |
| [17:21:00] | fryfrog: | humm, well if it was using swap then it really was using up a ton of ram :) |
| [17:21:00] | fryfrog: | were you watching tv or recording or ? |
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| [17:22:00] | Affa: | 1600000 bitrate 720x480 capture with a hauppauge 500mce watching livetv. and doing deinterlacing. |
| [17:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | DonLKSAB: No, not without it being modified |
| [17:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | It only emulates mouse and key strokes at this point |
| [17:23:00] | fryfrog: | was it the FE or BE using the ram? |
| [17:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | What version of myth ? |
| [17:26:00] | mrmabs: | wondering if anyone can help me with pal/ntsc switching issues? my sat decoder outputs pal and ntsc, but myth only gives me pal, even on the channels i set as ntsc... |
| [17:26:00] | Affa: | GreyFoxx 18.1 on gentoo. |
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| [17:27:00] | Affa: | I think part of my issue is tuning the kernel to act more like a server and less like a desktop with that option for server/desktop responsiveness... |
| [17:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ok, I know there has recently been some leaks in SVN that might have accounted for that |
| [17:28:00] | Affa: | Well as it fills up the ram, the decoder is falling behind on getting frames out to my screen... |
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| [17:33:00] | Affa: | What kind of preemption do I need on for mythtv to run great? |
| [17:34:00] | Hoxzer: | I'm thinking about buying a motherboard that has intergrated sound card with s/pif output do I need to do something to unable the out put via it? |
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| [17:46:00] | fryfrog: | Hoxzer: just make sure the onboard sound has linux drivers, which if its ac97 (98% for sure?) it should work |
| [17:46:00] | fryfrog: | that said, i've not used digital out yet |
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| [17:54:00] | Hoxzer: | fryfrog: it is has ADI AD1888 SoundMAX 6-channel audio CODEC |
| [17:54:00] | Hoxzer: | that is its sound card |
| [17:55:00] | Hoxzer: | oh :O |
| [17:56:00] | Hoxzer: | seems like peapols are having problems with taht |
| [17:56:00] | Hoxzer: | *that |
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| [18:21:00] | Beirdo: | OK, xris got to work, it must be lunch time |
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| [18:27:00] | xris: | lol |
| [18:27:00] | xris: | still no kormoc, though |
| [18:27:00] | Krazylegz: | He's not in yet? |
| [18:27:00] | xris: | poor guy's still sick |
| [18:27:00] | Krazylegz: | He's not in #lanc-lug this morning either. |
| [18:27:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah. |
| [18:28:00] | ** xris takes his green chinese pills again so as not to get infected ** | |
| [18:30:00] | xris: | oh, good. at the doctor now.. hopefully getting poked with needles (acupuncture) if he got an appt with my doctor. |
| [18:30:00] | patdk2: | I thought it was the red pill |
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| [18:30:00] | Krazylegz: | "Putting holes in his head isn't the answer!" |
| [18:31:00] | xris: | patdk2: yin quao is always green (or black) |
| [18:33:00] | xris: | besides... that one is red v blue, not red v green. |
| [18:33:00] | patdk2: | I don't get this |
| [18:33:00] | patdk2: | my uidl's are messed up |
| [18:33:00] | patdk2: | but they all match perfectly |
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| [18:43:00] | DonLKSAB: | So. I can kill X with Ctrl+Alt+Backspace |
| [18:43:00] | DonLKSAB: | But it keeps restarting |
| [18:44:00] | DonLKSAB: | Is there a way to kill it so that it wont start again? |
| [18:44:00] | DonLKSAB: | Or is this a knoppmyth thing? |
| [18:46:00] | jams: | it's a gdm thing, stop gdm and then you should be able to stop X |
| [18:47:00] | DonLKSAB: | ok |
| [18:48:00] | DonLKSAB: | Thanks |
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| [19:06:00] | xris: | DonLKSAB: control-alt-f1 |
| [19:06:00] | xris: | telinit 3 |
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| [20:37:00] | frox: | anyone in here have pvr-500 reboot issues? |
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| [20:52:00] | steveybaby2: | hi all! do any of you ppl know why cutlists are incorrect during playback through myth? |
| [20:53:00] | steveybaby2: | that is, myth auto flags commercials fine, and i can burn to dvd using mythtvburn (pick ing out the frame numbers) but when i watch the original through mythtv the cut points are in the wrong places |
| [20:54:00] | steveybaby2: | its like the time is getting screwed up |
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| [20:55:00] | maniacxs: | hi, does mythtranscode --mpeg2 work with pes ? |
| [20:56:00] | Juski: | hello – must be that time again |
| [20:57:00] | Juski: | just a heads up for UK DVB-T users.. a new channel launches this Monday 10th October – 'More4'. There's already an xmltv feed for the channel in tv_grab_uk_rt, but you'll have to modify the channel_ids file to be able to grab it ;) |
| [20:57:00] | steveybaby2: | Juski, do you have a dvb card? |
| [20:58:00] | Juski: | maniacxs: I can transcode DVB-T recordings without any problems, so I guess so |
| [20:58:00] | Juski: | steveybaby2: yup – 2 of them in my backend (ooerr missus) |
| [20:58:00] | maniacxs: | Juski: i mean with cutlists. |
| [20:59:00] | Juski: | cutlists aren't very accurate, maniacxs |
| [20:59:00] | Juski: | not with mpeg2 recordings from my dvb cards anyway |
| [20:59:00] | maniacxs: | I tried it, but but it did not honor the cutlist ... |
| [20:59:00] | steveybaby2: | Juski: cool :) ever had problems where the cut lists are out when playing thro myth, but not when you burn to dvd through mythtvburn? |
| [21:00:00] | steveybaby2: | Juski: as tho myth's timing is out? |
| [21:00:00] | Juski: | the cutlists are just jump points used during playback AFAIK |
| [21:00:00] | Juski: | no steveybaby – it's more to do with the way DVB is broadcast.. timestamps are all over the place (for error correction & stuff) |
| [21:01:00] | steveybaby2: | yeah. ive auto flagged commercials, loaded into the cut list and played back tho myth, but the cutpoints are slightly out (about 10 secs) |
| [21:01:00] | Juski: | only way to do it reliably I think would be to demux the stream, then re-mux it, then cut it |
| [21:01:00] | steveybaby2: | but when i use project x with the same cut points, it cuts perfectly |
| [21:01:00] | Juski: | I noticed the other day you can set mythtv to compensate for that during playback, but I've no idea if you can do that with transcodes |
| [21:02:00] | Juski: | projectx demuxes it, then remuxes it ;) |
| [21:02:00] | steveybaby2: | true :) |
| [21:03:00] | steveybaby2: | so say i have lots of recording that won't flag automagically |
| [21:03:00] | Juski: | from what I've read on the users' mailing list, you'd have to demux & remux it – bit of a hassle |
| [21:03:00] | steveybaby2: | theres no other way to do it? can i demux and remux and leave as a nuv? |
| [21:03:00] | Juski: | but easy enough to build scripts to do it I suppose... we just ffwd thru the ads in this house (when we record shows from commercial channels – very rarely do) |
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| [21:04:00] | steveybaby2: | yeah, same here. ive been getting all the friends off of e4 and now need to archive em ;) |
| [21:04:00] | Juski: | just buy the DVDs on ebay – it'd be faster :) |
| [21:05:00] | steveybaby2: | i dont like being beaten tho :) |
| [21:05:00] | Juski: | steveybaby – you'd also need to sort them into the right order – E4 show them quite randomly I think |
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| [21:05:00] | steveybaby2: | yeah, ive got the lists, and modded mythtvburn too to allow ordering |
| [21:05:00] | Juski: | heh |
| [21:05:00] | steveybaby2: | so whats this setting to make myth compensate for these timing issues then? |
| [21:06:00] | Juski: | for playback – it's under 'playback' in the TV settings menu somwehere |
| [21:06:00] | steveybaby2: | but if i demux and remux every recording, it'll sort out the timing? |
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| [21:07:00] | Juski: | It'll sort out the time stamps... then I presume you'd need to re-mark the cut points |
| [21:07:00] | Juski: | (or at least move them) |
| [21:07:00] | steveybaby2: | yeah, i dont mind that |
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| [21:07:00] | steveybaby2: | maybe the autoflagger will work on ones it didn't work on before too once i de/re mux |
| [21:08:00] | steveybaby2: | it wont mess up the database at all will it? |
| [21:08:00] | Juski: | infact I might have a look at this – been archiving 'bad girls' for mrs juski and there's talk of keeping them like **forever** (shudder) |
| [21:09:00] | Juski: | so you all set for 'More4' ? |
| [21:09:00] | steveybaby2: | :) yeah, and sky3 |
| [21:09:00] | steveybaby2: | u? |
| [21:09:00] | Juski: | sky3? |
| [21:09:00] | Juski: | not seen that on my local muxes yet |
| [21:09:00] | steveybaby2: | yeah, sky travel is becoming sky 3 |
| [21:09:00] | Juski: | oh yeah |
| [21:09:00] | steveybaby2: | no, start of nov i think |
| [21:10:00] | steveybaby2: | 12–18month old sky1 channels |
| [21:10:00] | Juski: | coolio |
| [21:10:00] | Juski: | has it got an xmltv id yet? |
| [21:10:00] | steveybaby2: | you use mythtvburn? |
| [21:10:00] | steveybaby2: | dont think so |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | AAARGH! |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | I want to kill! |
| [21:10:00] | Juski: | no – haven't burnt that many disks for about a year |
| [21:11:00] | Beirdo: | fucking rsync |
| [21:11:00] | Juski: | (not since I got mythtv) |
| [21:11:00] | Juski: | ouch, Beirdo :( |
| [21:11:00] | steveybaby2: | Juski: check out http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds24574.html for the sky3 stuff |
| [21:11:00] | Beirdo: | it's deleting all the files I said to exclude |
| [21:11:00] | Beirdo: | and I don't get it |
| [21:12:00] | Juski: | since I'm still a bit of a noob I just use cp -R, check the destination before i delete anything |
| [21:12:00] | Beirdo: | this is between servers |
| [21:12:00] | steveybaby2: | scp :) |
| [21:13:00] | Beirdo: | hah hah |
| [21:13:00] | Juski: | scp? |
| [21:13:00] | steveybaby2: | i cant talk, i blow things up from time to time |
| [21:13:00] | Beirdo: | you don't understand |
| [21:13:00] | Beirdo: | this is copying like 12k files once we are done |
| [21:13:00] | Juski: | sounds a bit like my mp3 folder |
| [21:14:00] | Beirdo: | customer DNS zones |
| [21:14:00] | Juski: | ahh |
| [21:14:00] | steveybaby2: | sounds like a nightmare |
| [21:14:00] | Beirdo: | and I don't need it blowing away my config files, thanks |
| [21:15:00] | xris: | heh. wikipedia keeps buying servers. glad to see them doing well. |
| [21:16:00] | Juski: | steveybaby – I've just looked at the channels.dat on the radio times site – no feed for sky3, so I'm guessing the xmltv id will remain the same |
| [21:16:00] | steveybaby2: | yeah, could be |
| [21:17:00] | Juski: | actually discovered today you can call a channel anything you want in the xmltv grabber – it's only the channel's ID number that matters |
| [21:17:00] | Beirdo: | HHHmmmmm |
| [21:17:00] | Beirdo: | I wonder if it would help if the far end had the exclude list first |
| [21:17:00] | Juski: | stevey: ID for More4 is 1959 |
| [21:17:00] | steveybaby2: | Juski: dont you use myth to grab the listings from dvb? |
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| [21:18:00] | Juski: | nah – only 7 (at best) days in advance? ugh |
| [21:18:00] | steveybaby2: | it does it automagically if you leave the backend open |
| [21:18:00] | steveybaby2: | yeah, 5 days really |
| [21:18:00] | Juski: | I tried it, and when it went down to 2 days' worth I swapped back to xmltv |
| [21:19:00] | steveybaby2: | i cant blame you if it got to two days |
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| [21:19:00] | steveybaby2: | it stopped working for me until i realised that the backend needed to be open all the time to get the listings |
| [21:19:00] | steveybaby2: | couldnt be bothered to set up radio times – im lazy :) |
| [21:19:00] | Juski: | my backend is on 24/7 |
| [21:20:00] | Juski: | cards are now set to 'on demand' |
| [21:20:00] | steveybaby2: | i got a nice mini-itx, but i only have one card :( |
| [21:20:00] | Juski: | wouldn't risk 2 tuners in one of them – they get a bit warm |
| [21:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey xris are you here? |
| [21:21:00] | Juski: | unless they're 'on demand' I suppose |
| [21:21:00] | steveybaby2: | yeah, it is quite toasty in there |
| [21:21:00] | SqWaw: | weee |
| [21:21:00] | SqWaw: | my 250 just arrived |
| [21:21:00] | Juski: | I've got my epia 10k board in a silverstone LC10 case |
| [21:21:00] | SqWaw: | 500 + 250 = big mess :) |
| [21:21:00] | Juski: | very roomy :) |
| [21:21:00] | Beirdo: | sonvabitch |
| [21:21:00] | Beirdo: | now it's behaving?! |
| [21:22:00] | steveybaby2: | Juski: nice ;) |
| [21:22:00] | Beirdo: | and back to not deleting what I told it to |
| [21:22:00] | Beirdo: | fuuuuck |
| [21:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Beirdo, I am trying to figure out how to have something to record any showing of one program no matter what channel its on... the program is on 2 channels TNT and ABC how would I set it to record both channels? |
| [21:23:00] | Beirdo: | you tell it to record on any channel any time |
| [21:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok |
| [21:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | just wanted to make sure :) |
| [21:29:00] | ** Juski proposes we start kicking people who don't RTFM.. is that a sign I'm becoming a proper geek? ** | |
| [21:30:00] | Krazylegz: | Juski: I've resorted to telling them to "Yahoo." |
| [21:31:00] | Juski: | hehehe |
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| [21:36:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: I need a backend where ever I have an ivtv card right? |
| [21:36:00] | Juski: | steveybaby – I see ITVnews might be going to make way for (shudder) ITV4... do we really NEED more ITV channels?! |
| [21:36:00] | Beirdo: | yep |
| [21:36:00] | Juski: | Cardoe – if you want to record or watch anything from it somewhere else, yes |
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| [21:38:00] | toresbe: | hmm |
| [21:38:00] | toresbe: | When I schedule recordings, the file gets WAYY too big |
| [21:38:00] | Juski: | what do you call 'big' toresbe? |
| [21:38:00] | toresbe: | like, 47MB for a one-minute recording |
| [21:39:00] | Juski: | bout 2.8GB an hour.. you using an ivtv card? |
| [21:39:00] | toresbe: | no |
| [21:39:00] | Juski: | hdtv? |
| [21:39:00] | toresbe: | cx88 standard v4l input |
| [21:39:00] | toresbe: | no |
| [21:40:00] | toresbe: | There's a LOT of static though |
| [21:40:00] | toresbe: | that might kill compression? |
| [21:40:00] | Juski: | mjpeg could be using that much |
| [21:40:00] | Juski: | or are you using mpeg4? |
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| [21:40:00] | toresbe: | mjpeg, I think |
| [21:41:00] | Juski: | toresbe – no , static would just make the picture look bad rather than increase the filesize |
| [21:41:00] | toresbe: | okay |
| [21:41:00] | Juski: | try lowering the quality to see what you find acceptable |
| [21:42:00] | stang: | Does anyone run a ps2 or xbox through their tuner card? I seem to have about a 4 second lag when I hook mine up. Using a Haupp. PVR-500MCE |
| [21:42:00] | Juski: | for SDTV, as mentioned in the mythtv.org docs you'll probably not notice any improvement recording at 720x480 over 480x480 |
| [21:42:00] | toresbe: | okay, I'm pulling it down from 170 to... 50? |
| [21:42:00] | Juski: | you will do, stang... that's a feature |
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| [21:42:00] | stang: | Juski, what's a feature? The lag? Because of the buffer? |
| [21:42:00] | Juski: | toresbe – try it – see what quality you can drop it down to before you think 'ugh' |
| [21:43:00] | toresbe: | Juski: thanks |
| [21:43:00] | Juski: | otherwise – start recording in (or transcoding to) mpeg4 |
| [21:43:00] | toresbe: | Juski: An AMD64 2800+ up for that, you think? |
| [21:43:00] | Juski: | stang – you'd be better off using something like tvtime to watch a games console through your linux box |
| [21:43:00] | Juski: | toresbe- easy |
| [21:44:00] | stang: | well I didnt use myth. I did "gmplayer /dev/video0" and there was a 4 second lag |
| [21:44:00] | Juski: | so long as you're not doing anything daft with it at the time, toresbe.. (and provided you have enough RAM) |
| [21:44:00] | toresbe: | It was rtjpeg |
| [21:44:00] | Juski: | that's the delay in the mpeg encoder on the pVR500, stang |
| [21:44:00] | Juski: | better devote your time to learning to code rather than playing games ;) |
| [21:45:00] | Juski: | rtjpeg – mjpeg (ish), toresbe.. |
| [21:45:00] | stang: | What does coding have anything to with this |
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| [21:46:00] | smoke_: | hey guys, whats the command to just straight to the msuic player? JUMP play music?> |
| [21:46:00] | stang: | ?? |
| [21:46:00] | Juski: | stang – you bought the wrong card for real time video is what I mean... AFAIK there's no way to operate the PVR series of cards without using the onboard encoder |
| [21:46:00] | Juski: | what you gain in terms of less cpu usage, you lose in other things |
| [21:46:00] | stang: | So why should I "be learning to code" again? |
| [21:46:00] | Juski: | just a joke. forget it |
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| [21:47:00] | Juski: | a solution would be to get a video switch box, stang.. bypass mythtv and the pvr card altogether |
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| [21:48:00] | Juski: | or if you have a spare input on the tv go with that instead |
| [21:48:00] | Juski: | ... or buy a cheap software encoding card |
| [21:49:00] | laga: | Juski: i believe that there is a /dev/video32 device that'll give you the raw video |
| [21:49:00] | Juski: | is there... ahh well – you can use that then, stang (or at least try it) |
| [21:49:00] | stang: | laga, i'll look into that... I've saw that but had no clue what it was for |
| [21:49:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [21:49:00] | toresbe: | Juski: thanks for your help, I've scheduled a test recording that should start right about now |
| [21:49:00] | stang: | thought it looked wierd though :-) |
| [21:49:00] | stang: | Thanks for the help guys |
| [21:50:00] | toresbe: | oh, heh, burning at most 15% CPU |
| [21:50:00] | toresbe: | I can live with that :P |
| [21:51:00] | toresbe: | Should probably nice down backend quite a bit |
| [21:51:00] | stang: | laga, out of curiosity now, do you know what video24 is? |
| [21:51:00] | laga: | stang: no, sorry |
| [21:51:00] | simon_c: | Hi all. I've just setup a new front end, but I didnt' have to tell it where my NFS server was, just the database back end. It seemed to magically find the recording anyway. How did that work ? |
| [21:51:00] | Juski: | the magic of the mythtv protocol, simon_c |
| [21:51:00] | laga: | simon_c: it connects to the backend and gets the video streamed |
| [21:52:00] | Juski: | angels & pixies carry the video down the wire (or something like that) |
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| [21:52:00] | simon_c: | laga: ahh. For me then, that would be a double network hop. Is there a way to tell the frontend to pick the data directly from the file system ? |
| [21:52:00] | toresbe: | stang: Probably the same but with 24-bit pixels and not 32-bit pixels |
| [21:53:00] | stang: | ahh... you guys are sharp |
| [21:53:00] | ** toresbe is guessing ** | |
| [21:53:00] | toresbe: | :) |
| [21:53:00] | stang: | well you convinced me |
| [21:53:00] | laga: | simon_c: yep! mount the directory over nfs on your client, start mythtv-setup on the client and set the path to the recordings there. |
| [21:53:00] | toresbe: | I'm an experienced bullshitter, stang :] |
| [21:54:00] | laga: | toresbe: marketing, huh? |
| [21:54:00] | toresbe: | no, not really |
| [21:54:00] | stang: | haha... a very desirable trait |
| [21:54:00] | simon_c: | laga: Thanks. |
| [21:54:00] | toresbe: | Wow, this has been a long day |
| [21:54:00] | Juski: | oh bugger. kernel panic !!!! |
| [21:54:00] | toresbe: | Juski: wow. Not good |
| [21:54:00] | toresbe: | Juski: what kerne/ |
| [21:54:00] | toresbe: | l?* |
| [21:55:00] | simon_c: | Has there been any experimentation with stackable file systems ? I'd like to be able to copy specific recordings to my laptop for playback, without having to go through symlink hell. |
| [21:55:00] | Juski: | gentoo – been playing about on my spare machine |
| [21:55:00] | toresbe: | Juski: ew, gentoo :) |
| [21:55:00] | Beirdo: | genflu? ;) |
| [21:55:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:55:00] | ** toresbe is a debian/ubuntu zealot ** | |
| [21:55:00] | laga: | *sneeze* |
| [21:55:00] | Juski: | hey I tried that umbongo distro for like one day.. then took it back off |
| [21:55:00] | ** Beirdo uses gentoo... and ubuntu... and FC ** | |
| [21:55:00] | toresbe: | Well, it's a target market thing |
| [21:56:00] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [21:56:00] | Beirdo: | it's more a "how much time do I have to fuck around with this distro on my many boxes" for me |
| [21:56:00] | Beirdo: | so gentoo loses badly |
| [21:56:00] | toresbe: | Ubuntu is tuned for relatively inexperienced users |
| [21:56:00] | Beirdo: | I use it for my asterisk box as I want it trimmed right down |
| [21:56:00] | laga: | Beirdo: you use GENTOO? |
| [21:56:00] | Beirdo: | all other new boxes get ubuntu |
| [21:56:00] | toresbe: | Whereas Debian is more of a do-it-yourself(if-you-want-to) distro |
| [21:57:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: so why do you use gentoo? |
| [21:57:00] | Beirdo: | yes, laga... I have for many many months |
| [21:57:00] | ** simon_c uses suse ** | |
| [21:57:00] | ivor: | Beirdo: heh I was talking to the asterix devs today. |
| [21:57:00] | Beirdo: | rjune: I just said! |
| [21:57:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [21:57:00] | Juski: | well I know gentoo now.. no point learning new shit to do the same stuff |
| [21:57:00] | laga: | Beirdo: we just cant believe it. |
| [21:57:00] | Beirdo: | as I want to trim everything on the system down to bare minimum (which means compiling everything anyways) |
| [21:57:00] | rjune: | Juski: other then you want to actually do stuff with your time |
| [21:57:00] | rjune: | and computer |
| [21:57:00] | Beirdo: | but it's a PITA to use, I only use it as it has a good purpose |
| [21:58:00] | Beirdo: | I don't want to have to compile everything for all my machines |
| [21:58:00] | Beirdo: | fuck that |
| [21:58:00] | toresbe: | 48120 2012_20051006172000_20051006172100.nuv |
| [21:58:00] | toresbe: | 13700 2012_20051006215000_20051006215100.nuv |
| [21:58:00] | toresbe: | Quite a significant difference in size, no? :) |
| [21:58:00] | toresbe: | and no noticeable quality difference |
| [21:58:00] | Juski: | so crank it down some more... or leave it as it is... |
| [21:58:00] | toresbe: | Juski: No, I'm happy |
| [21:59:00] | toresbe: | the upper is the rtjpeg, the lower mpeg4 |
| [21:59:00] | Juski: | I don't have to compile EVERYTHING.. that's what the packages CDs are for |
| [21:59:00] | toresbe: | 840MB per hour is acceptable, I guess |
| [21:59:00] | Beirdo: | Juski: you weren't listening :) |
| [21:59:00] | ivor: | any uk dvb users about? |
| [22:00:00] | Juski: | typical gentoo user aren't i? |
| [22:00:00] | Juski: | ivor – yup |
| [22:00:00] | Beirdo: | packages CDs have all the shit enabled |
| [22:00:00] | Juski: | all what shit, beirdo? |
| [22:00:00] | Beirdo: | I will not have X on my asterisk box. fuck no |
| [22:00:00] | ivor: | next... any xtraview patch users about? |
| [22:00:00] | Beirdo: | and a lot of stuff optionally includes X |
| [22:00:00] | Juski: | ivor – forget it... xtraview is going the way of the dodo |
| [22:00:00] | simon_c: | I was at the uk linux expo and saw a talk from the astrix developer. Seems very cool stuff. |
| [22:01:00] | toresbe: | simon_c: oh, it is |
| [22:01:00] | ivor: | Juski: bah, fancied watching some ukgold. |
| [22:01:00] | Juski: | Beirdo – it's good enough for me anyway :) |
| [22:01:00] | Beirdo: | have fun :) |
| [22:01:00] | Juski: | that channel is being canned, ivor |
| [22:01:00] | ivor: | simon_c: heh did you swing by the kde stand? (I was there) |
| [22:01:00] | Beirdo: | too high maintenance for my pile of computers |
| [22:02:00] | simon_c: | ivor: I didn, but didn't lurk around there. |
| [22:02:00] | Juski: | hmmm mebba I'll go back to umbungo... my gentoo cds look like my windows box ate them |
| [22:03:00] | simon_c: | ivor: Kind a thought, "KDE, yes I know that nothing to give anyone a hard time over." and wanderd off to beat dell up about not getting decent linux drivers from their suppliers |
| [22:03:00] | simon_c: | ;-) |
| [22:03:00] | ivor: | simon_c: aahahaaa everyone was doing that! |
| [22:03:00] | Juski: | simple HDD swappage.. just have to sort out ALSA & why it complains about there being 2 soundcards when there is only one |
| [22:04:00] | ivor: | I wanded across to give them a hard time and they were like do you realise how many people have been bitching to us? |
| [22:04:00] | simon_c: | ivor: Got one of their USB lights out of it, as well as a fan. |
| [22:04:00] | simon_c: | ivor: Hopefully it will get back to the people that matter. |
| [22:04:00] | ivor: | don't hold your breath |
| [22:05:00] | simon_c: | I know. They dont' seem to be botherd about linux on the desktop yet. |
| [22:05:00] | Juski: | you wanna beat Dell up about them making it so hard to buy a PC without a Windows OS too |
| [22:05:00] | stang: | I have a quick question about a dual tuner PVR-500MCE with MythTv. In the setup, what's the difference between /dev/video0, /dev/video1, tuner 0, and tuner 1? |
| [22:05:00] | ivor: | Juski: um. I did that too!! :D |
| [22:05:00] | simon_c: | I forgot to beat them up about their BIOS updates breaking linux stuff too. :-( |
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| [22:06:00] | Beirdo: | Dude, you're getting a Dell... HA HA! |
| [22:06:00] | simon_c: | Juski: I did. They reccon 3–6 months for that. |
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| [22:07:00] | Juski: | stang – they're each of the encoders and tuners respectively – the pVR500 has two of each don't ya know |
| [22:08:00] | stang: | Should I put the default input of /dev/video0 to tuner 0, and the default input of /dev/video1 to tuner 1? |
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| [22:09:00] | stang: | Yeah, but in the input connections section of mythsetup, /dev/video0 has tuner 0 and tuner 1 (plus 2 s-videos and 4 composites) unputs, while video1 has the same things |
| [22:10:00] | stang: | I guess that screen throws me off... does that make any sense? |
| [22:10:00] | toresbe: | holy crap mythweather is cool |
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| [22:13:00] | stang: | but you're saying that encoder 0 can pull its signal from tuner 0 or tuner 1, and the same for encoder 1? |
| [22:13:00] | stang: | to me, it just seems that encoder 0 would be locked to tuner 0 |
| [22:14:00] | Juski: | that's what I'd expect.. but I dont know, not being the owner of such a card |
| [22:14:00] | Cardoe: | hrm |
| [22:15:00] | Cardoe: | I still need some kind of IR module for a remote on my new box. |
| [22:15:00] | Juski: | Cardoe – you've got lots of options |
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| [22:16:00] | stang: | one more question... how do I switch to the composite inputs while watching myth? 'C' just changes encoders, i believe |
| [22:16:00] | Juski: | buy an (ugh) MCE remote, build a serial port receiver (or buy one)... buy an IR keyboard then learn the keys onto remote buttons on a learning remote... |
| [22:17:00] | stang: | or do I have to do that through the ivtvctl commands? |
| [22:18:00] | toresbe: | hmm, how can I set global picture values? |
| [22:18:00] | toresbe: | like bright, contrast, etc |
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| [22:29:00] | Cardoe: | I have a remote |
| [22:29:00] | Cardoe: | I need something to receive the IR stuff |
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| [22:33:00] | Juski: | that means you need to do some research about IR receivers which work with LIRC, Cardoe |
| [22:33:00] | Cardoe: | yes yes |
| [22:34:00] | Cardoe: | I was typing in general. |
| [22:34:00] | Cardoe: | I swear.. the next user that talks to me like I'm 3 in here. |
| [22:34:00] | Juski: | your choices boil down to serial or USB.. bearing in mind that serial devices stand more chance of working |
| [22:34:00] | stang: | i thought lirc didn't work w/ usb |
| [22:34:00] | toresbe: | I have a serial SIR device somewhere |
| [22:35:00] | Juski: | i.e. not that many USB receivers work in Linux |
| [22:35:00] | toresbe: | could I use that with a remote? |
| [22:35:00] | laga: | Cardoe: point your web browser to lirc.org and show the circuit prints to your daddy |
| [22:35:00] | toresbe: | beh, now that I think |
| [22:35:00] | ** laga hides ** | |
| [22:35:00] | toresbe: | I don't really want to replace current setup |
| [22:35:00] | stang: | laga is egging it on... :-) |
| [22:35:00] | toresbe: | a keyboard on the dining table works excellently :) |
| [22:35:00] | toresbe: | Could probably go wireless at some point |
| [22:36:00] | Juski: | wireless keyboards can be a bit of a minefield.. as in the manufacturers don't often publish the range specs (or they just lie) |
| [22:37:00] | Juski: | been down that road.. .bought a 'wireless keyboard'.. only good for 2 metres line of sight ARGHHHHHHHHHHH! |
| [22:37:00] | Cardoe: | laga: yeah. I guess. I wish there was a nice commerical solution. |
| [22:37:00] | Cardoe: | That looked pretty |
| [22:37:00] | laga: | Cardoe: well, there are some shops listed there. |
| [22:37:00] | stang: | Cardoe, there's someone that makes that circuit and sells it on ebay |
| [22:37:00] | Juski: | hehehe.. computer kit that looks pretty.. hmmm |
| [22:38:00] | Cardoe: | no no |
| [22:38:00] | Cardoe: | Circuit will not do |
| [22:38:00] | Cardoe: | the female of the house will not be happy with circuitry |
| [22:38:00] | Cardoe: | I'm allowed circuitry in 1 room |
| [22:38:00] | Cardoe: | and that doesn't include the living room |
| [22:38:00] | laga: | Cardoe: well, build a nice box for it |
| [22:38:00] | Juski: | you can buy the circuits ready made but it'll cost you – probably more than an MCE remote package |
| [22:38:00] | stang: | it comes cased up and out of sight |
| [22:39:00] | Cardoe: | I just wish the guys that gave me the hardware for free sent me the right damn card. |
| [22:39:00] | Cardoe: | they gave me a PVR-500 & PVR-150 |
| [22:39:00] | Cardoe: | but a low profile |
| [22:39:00] | Cardoe: | without the longer bracket plate. |
| [22:39:00] | Juski: | no IR header? |
| [22:39:00] | Cardoe: | so the pvr-150 is just sitting in there. |
| [22:39:00] | Cardoe: | Juski: the LP doesn't have one. |
| [22:39:00] | Juski: | ahhh |
| [22:39:00] | Juski: | you can't expect the Earth for free.. but people often do |
| [22:39:00] | Cardoe: | She was happy with the Aria |
| [22:39:00] | Cardoe: | so I got an Aria |
| [22:40:00] | Cardoe: | but the damn stupid PPC board doesn't really go well in there. |
| [22:40:00] | Cardoe: | Juski: I'm gonna stab you. |
| [22:40:00] | Cardoe: | Juski: They didn't mean to send me a LP card. |
| [22:40:00] | Juski: | cool... lived in Manchester for 8 years and never been stabbed, so that'll be a proper initiation |
| [22:40:00] | Cardoe: | This has been asked and answered in here weeks ago. |
| [22:41:00] | ** Beirdo beats rsync to deat ** | |
| [22:41:00] | Beirdo: | death even |
| [22:41:00] | Beirdo: | I think I finally got the damn thing working |
| [22:41:00] | Juski: | come on Cardoe.. you got the hardware for free, so you hardly have right to complain ;) |
| [22:42:00] | Chutt: | free hardware usually sucks |
| [22:42:00] | Chutt: | have to spend more time getting it working than stuff you bought yourself |
| [22:42:00] | Chutt: | and/or buy a bunch of extra stuff to get it working |
| [22:42:00] | Juski: | anyway – how hard would it be to get a blank bracket and drill it yourself? |
| [22:43:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: what are you doing it for? |
| [22:43:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: That's the truth big time. |
| [22:43:00] | Cardoe: | Juski: Not the point. |
| [22:43:00] | Beirdo: | pushing out DNS configs without messing up zones |
| [22:43:00] | Beirdo: | and deleting old zones and configs |
| [22:43:00] | Cardoe: | Juski: Chutt did nail it on the head pretty well. |
| [22:43:00] | Juski: | the point is, you got stuff for free & you're complaining about it |
| [22:44:00] | Cardoe: | Juski: like Chutt said... Would have been better off buying it myself. |
| [22:44:00] | Chutt: | a couple hundred dollars worth of hardware isn't terribly much |
| [22:44:00] | Chutt: | especially since he got the wrong stuff |
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| [22:44:00] | laga: | for me, it is. i wouldn't mind getting a pvr 150 for free. i prefer PAL, though :) |
| [22:44:00] | Cardoe: | and this PPC board which they say is Micro-ATX |
| [22:44:00] | Cardoe: | is really not too Micro-ATX |
| [22:44:00] | Chutt: | VIA did the same thing to me when they sent me a mini-itx board |
| [22:44:00] | Cardoe: | since it hardly fits in an Aria |
| [22:44:00] | Chutt: | all they sent was the lameass motherboard + cpu |
| [22:44:00] | Cardoe: | and it doesn't have the proper connectors |
| [22:45:00] | Cardoe: | So I really just want to return the damn board and just buy a decent x86 board. |
| [22:45:00] | etnoy: | is it possible to use good ol' teletext with a myth, or is support from the card required? |
| [22:45:00] | etnoy: | I've not found any info |
| [22:46:00] | laga: | etnoy: what card are you running? |
| [22:46:00] | etnoy: | laga: hauppauge winTV nova-t |
| [22:47:00] | laga: | etnoy: DVB-T, right? |
| [22:47:00] | etnoy: | laga: yes, that's right |
| [22:47:00] | Beirdo: | YAY |
| [22:47:00] | Beirdo: | only took all day |
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| [22:48:00] | Juski: | there's an experimental patch for DVB-T teletext, etnoy |
| [22:48:00] | ivor: | bah, so how do you get free hardware... do you need to be nice to people? :) |
| [22:48:00] | Cardoe: | Why I hate Gentoo sometime.............. |
| [22:48:00] | Cardoe: | There's an Apache 2 USE flag on the Apache 2 ebuild. |
| [22:48:00] | laga: | etnoy: umm, well, i believe you need to try beebof's patch then. |
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| [22:48:00] | Juski: | ahh it's not MHEG then... |
| [22:48:00] | etnoy: | laga: okay, so it is theoretically posibble? |
| [22:49:00] | etnoy: | I've got questions from my family since they want to have the teletext systems running like the analog tv |
| [22:49:00] | etnoy: | and where do I find that patch of beeof's? |
| [22:49:00] | laga: | etnoy: it is. |
| [22:49:00] | Juski: | try the developers mailing list, etnoy |
| [22:50:00] | Juski: | or the SVN repository |
| [22:50:00] | laga: | etnoy: you can find this patch on the mailing list or in trac, but it's possible that you need to apply it against SVN code. |
| [22:50:00] | laga: | which is not completely stable for DVb atm, iirc |
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| [22:51:00] | etnoy: | laga: great, but I'll just have to wait for it to be stabilized then or make a backport |
| [22:51:00] | etnoy: | I tried the svn version, but it's not stable enough for us |
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| [22:52:00] | Juski: | etnoy: http://mitglied.lycos.de/beebof/myth.html |
| [22:52:00] | etnoy: | Juski: thanks |
| [22:52:00] | etnoy: | is teletext on card level, or does it work on any card? |
| [22:52:00] | etnoy: | just curious |
| [22:54:00] | Juski: | no idea |
| [22:54:00] | ivor: | etnoy: by teletext do you mean the "graphical dvb teletext" |
| [22:54:00] | Juski: | no he means the old analogue style teletext |
| [22:55:00] | ivor: | k. no idea then. :) |
| [22:55:00] | Juski: | not MHEG, though I beleive someone has looked at that in the past |
| [22:55:00] | etnoy: | ivor: the plain ol' analoge |
| [22:55:00] | ivor: | Juski: yeah a few people. me included. |
| [22:55:00] | etnoy: | ivor: is there a dvb teletext system also? |
| [22:55:00] | ivor: | etnoy: yes. |
| [22:55:00] | etnoy: | I know almost nothing on this topic w/ dvb |
| [22:55:00] | Juski: | etnoy – it's called MHEG |
| [22:55:00] | Juski: | interactive (ish) teletext |
| [22:55:00] | ivor: | it's pretty cool. java-ish. |
| [22:55:00] | etnoy: | hm, do you think it is widespread? |
| [22:55:00] | Juski: | basically similar to webpages |
| [22:56:00] | etnoy: | java-ish is not cool :P |
| [22:56:00] | Juski: | bbc interactive etc |
| [22:56:00] | toresbe: | My TV card can do radios too |
| [22:56:00] | Juski: | and even some channels are based on it (eg BBC parliament) |
| [22:56:00] | etnoy: | okay |
| [22:56:00] | toresbe: | uh, FM radio chans |
| [22:56:00] | ivor: | etnoy: there was a full stop between those two statements in case you didn't notice. :D |
| [22:56:00] | etnoy: | but not in Sweden, you think? |
| [22:56:00] | etnoy: | hehe |
| [22:56:00] | ** Juski wonders whatever happenned to DVB-radio for mythtv... not seen much traffic on that subject lately ** | |
| [22:56:00] | toresbe: | Is there a way to set up a radio channel? |
| [22:57:00] | etnoy: | DVB-radio == DAB? |
| [22:57:00] | Juski: | no, etnoy |
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| [22:57:00] | laga: | Juski: oh there is! |
| [22:57:00] | etnoy: | ok |
| [22:57:00] | Juski: | DAB=DAB |
| [22:57:00] | laga: | Juski: let me get you the subject line |
| [22:57:00] | ivor: | DVB-radio == DVB simply without the video pid. |
| [22:57:00] | Juski: | I've subscribed to the devs list but I've not seen any mention of it |
| [22:57:00] | etnoy: | well, that's smart |
| [22:58:00] | Juski: | we used to be able to set a dummy video PID from another channel to record radio |
| [22:58:00] | Juski: | but that's all gone outta the window since 0.18 |
| [22:58:00] | etnoy: | but the plain ol' teletext is not yet in stable |
| [22:58:00] | etnoy: | hm... |
| [22:58:00] | laga: | Juski: "DVB/DAB/FM Radio Plugin" |
| [22:59:00] | Juski: | there was a patch for DVB radio, but they didn't manage to get mythtv to play it back last time I read up on it... a long time ago |
| [22:59:00] | etnoy: | is the 0.18-fixes branch considered stable? |
| [22:59:00] | etnoy: | from svn |
| [23:01:00] | Juski: | laga – cheers for that – will keep my eyes peeled |
| [23:02:00] | Juski: | looks like I'll be putting that 3rd dvb-t tuner to good use soon then :D |
| [23:03:00] | Juski: | maybe I'll have a look to see if it can be tweaked to do dbox radio too |
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| [23:03:00] | laga: | Juski: ;( |
| [23:04:00] | laga: | Juski: i think the dbox tuning stuff works quite different from the regular dvb |
| [23:04:00] | Juski: | it does, yes... but as if that's gonna stop meh |
| [23:05:00] | laga: | oh my god ;) |
| [23:05:00] | Juski: | watch out world! |
| [23:06:00] | Juski: | oh shit. just installed umbongo again... now it doesn't see the internet.. grrr |
| [23:06:00] | Esotericisms: | anyword when the next version is due out? |
| [23:06:00] | laga: | Esotericisms: when it's done ;) |
| [23:06:00] | ** Juski notices it helps when you plug the network cable in ** | |
| [23:07:00] | laga: | Juski: it happens ;) |
| [23:07:00] | rsdvd: | Juski: Hi – did you manage to sort out those recievers? |
| [23:07:00] | Juski: | at BOTH ends |
| [23:08:00] | Juski: | rsdvd.. no – been busy with a family project.. doing a dvd for the godforsaken inlaws |
| [23:08:00] | rsdvd: | lol |
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| [23:08:00] | Juski: | but I've not forgotten you :) |
| [23:09:00] | rsdvd: | :-) Good! .... I have not managed to get round to ordering my new frontend.....so not a big rush |
| [23:09:00] | Juski: | the old 5 hours of shaky earthquake footage into one watchable hour equation |
| [23:11:00] | rsdvd: | sounds like a horrid project :-) |
| [23:12:00] | rsdvd: | does anyone know if the atrpms version of mythtv-suite has dvb-eit enabled? I cannot seem to get the OTA Guide working |
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| [23:16:00] | dampjam: | I just moved, I updated my zap2it listings for where I live now but MythTv is still showing hte old channel names, how do I force it to refresh? |
| [23:16:00] | steveybaby2: | rsdvd: make sure you leave your backend open rather than on demand |
| [23:16:00] | steveybaby2: | rsdvd: so it has chance to get the progs |
| [23:17:00] | rsdvd: | steveybaby......I had nto thought of that! That could be it! I will check when I get chance – thanks |
| [23:18:00] | steveybaby2: | rsdvd: :) no probs – that stumped me for a while |
| [23:18:00] | rsdvd: | :-) |
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| [23:18:00] | rsdvd: | don't supose you have a PVR card aswell as your DVb do you? |
| [23:19:00] | steveybaby2: | no, just a trusty nova-t |
| [23:19:00] | steveybaby2: | with bad timing issues :( |
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| [23:19:00] | rsdvd: | ok......I can't get them to work together :-( |
| [23:20:00] | steveybaby2: | altho thanks to Juski, im trying out something to hopefully solve that as we speak :D |
| [23:20:00] | rsdvd: | what timing issues? |
| [23:21:00] | steveybaby2: | commercial detected cut points dont play in the correct places, but are in fact correct (i know coz ive used mythtvburn with the same indexes) |
| [23:21:00] | rsdvd: | ok....... I will look out for that when I get round to doing commercial dutting |
| [23:22:00] | Juski: | rsdvd – you still not found a way to make the ivtv modules seperate from the kernel then? |
| [23:22:00] | steveybaby2: | works a treat if you dont use the cut points for playing and the auto-flagger finds all the commercials |
| [23:23:00] | rsdvd: | Juski: no! to be honest I ahve not had time to do much on it this week |
| [23:23:00] | Juski: | steveybaby2: in the TV playback preferences page you can set a rewind amount.. which will work nicely if it's skipping too far forward after a flagged commercial |
| [23:24:00] | Juski: | noticed the other night commflagging on channel4 should work flawlessly – blue screens between programme segments.. |
| [23:25:00] | steveybaby2: | yeah – tbh i dont mind pressing skip for the commercials during viewing. its just a pain when i want to cut them out for archiving and they are all out |
| [23:25:00] | steveybaby2: | actually, one the subject of cutting |
| [23:25:00] | steveybaby2: | do you have probs when you skip past an aspect ratio change in edit mode? |
| [23:25:00] | steveybaby2: | i get a seg fault 98% of the time |
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| [23:31:00] | Juski: | to be completely honest steveybaby2.. never done much editing in mythtv |
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| [23:33:00] | steveybaby2: | Juski: duh! i demuxed and remuxed and still the same problem |
| [23:33:00] | Juski: | ahh feck |
| [23:35:00] | steveybaby2: | i read somewhere about ppl with ntsc signals needing to change some multiplier from 12 to 15 |
| [23:35:00] | steveybaby2: | to fix some timing issue, but no other details were given |
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| [23:52:00] | Juski: | is there any code in svn to choose whether or not a video is viewable in mythvideo? (like there is in 0.18.1 for gallery mode) |
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| [23:56:00] | Juski: | ack... setting a video's 'browsable' setting still doesn't make it disappear :( |
| [23:56:00] | Juski: | that'll teach me to rip dvds to 2 cds' worth |
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