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[00:23:00] | simon_c: | where's the correct place for logging bugs for myth-web ? |
[00:24:00] | kormoc: | http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ |
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[00:26:00] | Frostilicus: | hey guys, my remote (greyHauppauge w/PVR350) works with the irw command, but not in mythfrontend... any ideas why? |
[00:30:00] | Agrajag-: | are you using built in support? do you have a ~/.mythtv/lircrc ? |
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[00:38:00] | simon_c: | Frostilicus: HAve you tried "ircat mythtv" |
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[00:41:00] | Frostilicus: | I've got /home/mythtv/.lircrc, not /home/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc |
[00:41:00] | Agrajag-: | well do you want to use mythtv built in support? |
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[00:42:00] | Agrajag-: | or are you using irxevent? |
[00:42:00] | Frostilicus: | well, yes I do. I thought I read on one of the guides that it should go in ~/.lircrc |
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[00:42:00] | Frostilicus: | I am not using irxevent |
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[00:42:00] | Agrajag-: | well that guide is wrong or you read it wrong. you need a ~/.mythtv/lircrc |
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[00:44:00] | Frostilicus: | Okay, thanks I'll try that |
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[00:45:00] | DarkBeer: | myth/xmame question: when I go into play games, I go to all games, then xmame, then I get a list of years from 1980–1989. under those there are some categories, but none of my roms. is this a problem with my catver.ini, or do I have something in the wrong place? |
[00:51:00] | knothead: | came up with a solution to myth changing the volume – chown root /dev/mixer |
[00:51:00] | knothead: | it's a hack but I don't need myth to change the volume at all |
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[00:58:00] | simon_c: | Is there anyway to play nuv files directly form the command line ? |
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[00:59:00] | Agrajag-: | simon_c: mplayer |
[00:59:00] | simon_c: | Oh. OK. thanks. |
[01:00:00] | kormoc: | Agrajag-, depenind on what type of nuv file it is and if mplayer can play it. |
[01:00:00] | Agrajag-: | which type can't it play? |
[01:00:00] | Agrajag-: | it can play ones from my dvb card (well they're just mpeg2) as well as ones from a crappy framegrabber |
[01:01:00] | kormoc: | Agrajag-, without the myth patch, it can't play the framegrabber nuv files in my experence at least |
[01:01:00] | simon_c: | Agrajag-: Well, I just tried it on my system, and it crapped out. |
[01:01:00] | simon_c: | kormoc: is there another way to play them ? Or should I just track down the myth patch ? |
[01:02:00] | redfox: | hey can anyone recommend a good distributed file system? |
[01:02:00] | kormoc: | simon_c, I'd look for the patch myself |
[01:03:00] | simon_c: | kormoc. Thanks. |
[01:03:00] | simon_c: | bed time I think. Later guys. |
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[01:36:00] | mynameis: | Anyone know why mythtv would be getting double keypresses on some pages? It does it consistently on the System Status page, pushing down moves down 2, pushing enter flashes the dialogue then selects the default item. I'm using the keyboard, so its not a remote control problem. |
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[01:37:00] | Mulvane: | project.. MythTV server with 6 pvr-250 cards..How much cpu would be needed to convert those to hq real time xvid for network streaming? |
[01:38:00] | PatrickDK: | too much |
[01:38:00] | PatrickDK: | I would estimate, about 5–6ghz per stream |
[01:38:00] | Mulvane: | Not a good answer :-) |
[01:38:00] | Mulvane: | Other solution then? |
[01:39:00] | mynameis: | hard drive and network bandwidth wouldn't be good either I think. |
[01:39:00] | PatrickDK: | get a hardware xvid encoder |
[01:39:00] | mchou: | Mulvane: why do they need to be xvid? |
[01:39:00] | mchou: | just do mpeg |
[01:39:00] | Mulvane: | mchou They don't |
[01:39:00] | redfox: | can anyone recommend a good distributed filesystem? |
[01:39:00] | Mulvane: | I'm trying to plan before I build right now |
[01:39:00] | PatrickDK: | harddrive and network can more than handle that |
[01:40:00] | PatrickDK: | redfox, let me know :) I have yet to find one |
[01:40:00] | Mulvane: | PatrickDK I am on all gigabit..Some of my stuff is redundant gigabit |
[01:40:00] | PatrickDK: | tried many |
[01:40:00] | redfox: | PatrickDK, haha great... |
[01:40:00] | mchou: | Mulvane: so? Mpeg can be done just fine with 100Mbit, afaik |
[01:40:00] | redfox: | I've heard some people mention GFS in this channel |
[01:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mulvane: why convert them at all ? |
[01:40:00] | redfox: | but it seems a little in the early stages |
[01:40:00] | PatrickDK: | I ned to try gfs again |
[01:40:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: exactly :) |
[01:40:00] | Mulvane: | GreyFoxx I didn't know it would stream mpeg.. |
[01:40:00] | PatrickDK: | redfox, gfs has been around for a long time |
[01:40:00] | PatrickDK: | longer than most all others |
[01:41:00] | redfox: | oh hrm alright, I might give it a try |
[01:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mulvane: the average recording is only around 2–4megabit per second. So a 100meg network would handle a lot of streams. a Gigabit even more :) |
[01:41:00] | PatrickDK: | afs is the only one I know of that has been around longer than gfs |
[01:41:00] | redfox: | if I use a distributed system, can I still scp from another computer like normal? |
[01:41:00] | Mulvane: | So I can have 6 pvr-250's streaming 6 channels at once with... P4 2.8? |
[01:41:00] | mchou: | Mulvane: you actually have 6 250s in hand? :) |
[01:41:00] | redfox: | yeah I was thinking about looking over afs |
[01:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mull: syyre |
[01:41:00] | Mulvane: | mchou I have 8 in hand..But I only have need for 6 for my project.. |
[01:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mulvane: The pvr250's use basically no CPU to capture.l |
[01:41:00] | mchou: | Mulvane: nope, probably 1Ghz will suffice..... |
[01:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | and you could easily stream those out to your network |
[01:43:00] | Mulvane: | I'm planning ahead for next April when I get back from sea and have my hazardout duty and other pays saved up, plus my income tax to redesign and expand my lan |
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[01:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | I regularly have 4 streams going over my network and it's not really noticable |
[01:43:00] | mchou: | Mulvane: sea? |
[01:43:00] | Mulvane: | I just put in a custom order for a 48U 19" sound silenced rack |
[01:43:00] | PatrickDK: | each stream will use at most 16mbit |
[01:43:00] | mchou: | Mulvane: you mean iraq? |
[01:43:00] | PatrickDK: | normally closer to 8mbit |
[01:43:00] | Mulvane: | What about hdtv? |
[01:43:00] | PatrickDK: | hdtv uses 19.5mbit |
[01:44:00] | Mulvane: | And 5.1 audio? And hit? |
[01:44:00] | PatrickDK: | 5.1audio uses less than a cd does |
[01:44:00] | Mulvane: | mchou I'm in the NAVY. Stationed on the USS VICKSBURG |
[01:44:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, hdtv willbe the biggest bandwidth hog |
[01:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | PatrickDK: 8? more like 2–4 on average. It's very rare to see much visual improvement over 4 |
[01:44:00] | PatrickDK: | I wouldn't put more than 3 on a 100mbit network |
[01:44:00] | Mulvane: | I've also already put in a custom order for a bunch of matched cases for this project.. |
[01:44:00] | PatrickDK: | greyfoxx, talking worstcase |
[01:44:00] | PatrickDK: | you have to plan forthat :) |
[01:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | PatrickDK: You said "normally" which implies averagte |
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[01:45:00] | mchou: | PatrickDK: 3 what on 100Mbit? |
[01:45:00] | Mulvane: | bandwidth is not going to be an issue at all |
[01:45:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, I'm sure my 8mbit stream used close to 9mbit |
[01:45:00] | PatrickDK: | mchou, isn't that what I said? |
[01:45:00] | mchou: | PatrickDK: 3 what on 100Mbit? |
[01:45:00] | PatrickDK: | read everything I said, not every other |
[01:46:00] | mchou: | PatrickDK: I'm asjking you to clarify |
[01:46:00] | mchou: | asking* |
[01:46:00] | PatrickDK: | [19:44] <PatrickDK> hmm, hdtv willbe the biggest bandwidth hog |
[01:46:00] | PatrickDK: | [19:44] <PatrickDK> I wouldn't put more than 3 on a 100mbit network |
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[01:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | Good thing he is specifically talking about sdtv :) And a gigabit network :) |
[01:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | but hdtv isa hog |
[01:48:00] | mchou: | PatrickDK: you are WAY to conservative |
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[01:48:00] | PatrickDK: | you should never load up ethernet over 60% |
[01:48:00] | mchou: | Each HDTV stream is approx 15mbit/s max |
[01:48:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, it's stated at 19.5mbit |
[01:48:00] | mchou: | PatrickDK: haha, that's your mistake |
[01:49:00] | PatrickDK: | 100% of hdtv info I have seen says 19.5 |
[01:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | same here |
[01:49:00] | mchou: | stations dont use full bw |
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[01:49:00] | PatrickDK: | I doubt they all lie |
[01:49:00] | PatrickDK: | just cause they don't use it, doesn't mean they won't |
[01:49:00] | mchou: | subchannels and whatnot..... |
[01:49:00] | mchou: | lol |
[01:49:00] | JoshTriplett: | Anyone have closed captioning support working with a PVR-*50 ? |
[01:49:00] | redfox: | yeah I've seen 19.5 as well |
[01:49:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, the 3 hdtv stations I have, two have like 4 subchannels |
[01:50:00] | redfox: | hey PatrickDK, have you ever used afs? |
[01:50:00] | PatrickDK: | no, I tried coda |
[01:50:00] | redfox: | alright |
[01:50:00] | PatrickDK: | it really sucked, and kindof worked |
[01:50:00] | redfox: | it looks like gfs might be easier to set up |
[01:50:00] | PatrickDK: | no updates for like 2 years |
[01:50:00] | redfox: | so that is where I'm leaning right now ;-) |
[01:51:00] | PatrickDK: | gfs totally depends on the hardware |
[01:51:00] | redfox: | oh really? |
[01:51:00] | PatrickDK: | where other methods are all software |
[01:51:00] | PatrickDK: | ya |
[01:51:00] | Ryushin: | iSCSI is always an option. |
[01:51:00] | Ryushin: | As is the netblock device. |
[01:51:00] | PatrickDK: | I like iscsi, but no real freebsd support |
[01:51:00] | Ryushin: | No initiator or server for freebsd? |
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[01:52:00] | PatrickDK: | ya, I just wanted the initiator/client |
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[01:53:00] | redfox: | is there a 'server' with gfs? It looks like the system is pretty flat |
[01:53:00] | redfox: | more like p2p |
[01:53:00] | Ryushin: | Looks like they had a beta for an initiator back in March. |
[01:53:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, that is the point of a distributed file system |
[01:53:00] | PatrickDK: | ryushin, didn't work well |
[01:53:00] | redfox: | well with afs, you have to setup a server and clients |
[01:53:00] | PatrickDK: | same with coda |
[01:53:00] | PatrickDK: | it sucks |
[01:54:00] | redfox: | ok sounds good |
[01:54:00] | PatrickDK: | maybe try dfs |
[01:54:00] | Ryushin: | I haven't had good luck with afs or coda. Always ended up going back to nfs. |
[01:54:00] | PatrickDK: | with samba |
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[01:54:00] | redfox: | arg... samba... ;-) |
[01:54:00] | redfox: | I think I'll give gfs a whirl and see what happens |
[01:54:00] | Ryushin: | redfox: what's wrong with nfs over tcp? |
[01:55:00] | PatrickDK: | it's not distributed |
[01:55:00] | redfox: | I'd prefer to have it look like one big file system |
[01:55:00] | redfox: | nfs is the backup plan though |
[01:55:00] | BreezBl0k: | hi im having problems trying to switch between tuners on my frontend.. i have a masterbackend with a btxxx chipset tuner and a frontend /slavebackend with a ivtv tuner but when i press the switch button it goes black and stays on the masterbackend tuner |
[01:55:00] | Ryushin: | Boy, that would be a trip. I'd hate to see the wierdness that myth would create on it if you record HD. |
[01:57:00] | BreezBl0k: | only thing i can find in my log that shows that it tries to switch is this Channel(/dev/v4l/video0)::CheckSignalFull(): input = 0 |
[01:57:00] | BreezBl0k: | strange error flushing buffer ... |
[01:58:00] | Ryushin: | I'm compiling from svn, Is there a make uninstall capability? |
[01:59:00] | PatrickDK: | why make uninstall? |
[01:59:00] | PatrickDK: | I just make install |
[01:59:00] | kormoc: | Ryushin, no there is not, you could make it into a rpm or similar package for your distro tho and use it's uninstall feature |
[02:00:00] | Ryushin: | checkinstall it is then. :) |
[02:01:00] | redfox: | how different is the svn version of mythgame? |
[02:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | quite |
[02:01:00] | redfox: | so worth the upgrade? |
[02:01:00] | redfox: | I read on some wiki that it is an improvement... |
[02:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | at least when it comes toadding gameplayers and flexibility |
[02:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | I like to think it is |
[02:02:00] | redfox: | ok sounds good, guess I'll upgrade |
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[02:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | I really should commit in the code toreenable the catver stuff heh |
[02:02:00] | mynameis: | Anyone know why mythtv would be getting double keypresses on some pages? It does it consistently on the System Status page, pushing down moves down 2, pushing enter flashes the dialogue then selects the default item. I'm using the keyboard, so its not a remote control problem. |
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[02:37:00] | fiveiron_: | anyone ever get "Couldn't get the color key color, and we need it" error? |
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[02:38:00] | PatrickDK: | every single time |
[02:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | Never seen it personally. But I've seen it mentioned by others |
[02:39:00] | PatrickDK: | it depends on your video card drivers really |
[02:39:00] | PatrickDK: | I just ignore it |
[02:39:00] | PatrickDK: | but then, it works on my system fine otherwise |
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[03:01:00] | Frostilicus: | I've been having some problems with lirc and mythfrontend, I get correct output when I run irw and hit all the remote buttons. |
[03:01:00] | Frostilicus: | I've got lircrc in /home/mythtv/.mythtv/ |
[03:01:00] | Frostilicus: | any ideas? |
[03:01:00] | Frostilicus: | myth was compiled with native lirc support |
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[03:07:00] | Frostilicus: | no ideas huh? the only thing I can think of is that even though myth was compiled with lirc support, it wasn't fully working when the actual compile took place (all the libraries and modules were there though) |
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[03:15:00] | Mulvane: | Are there any cards with support for digital cable input? |
[03:15:00] | doh: | I got a extra pc with aiw9800 pro will that work with myth tv? |
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[03:29:00] | mynameis: | how to i make mythfrontend run at a higher priority than normal? |
[03:30:00] | mynameis: | *how do* |
[03:30:00] | Krazylegz: | Renice it. |
[03:30:00] | Krazylegz: | Just like any Unix program. |
[03:30:00] | mynameis: | <-- somewhat noobish in this area of linux |
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[03:30:00] | Krazylegz: | That's okay, I'll discriminate against you anyway. :-P |
[03:31:00] | mynameis: | Krazylegz: lol. So I renice it how? |
[03:31:00] | Krazylegz: | http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/xcu/renice.html |
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[03:35:00] | mynameis: | so lower (negative) numbers = higher priority? |
[03:35:00] | mynameis: | exit |
[03:35:00] | mynameis: | (sorry wrong keyboard) |
[03:36:00] | Krazylegz: | http://fusion.gat.com/docview/renice_usage.html |
[03:38:00] | Krazylegz: | Anyway, yes, lower nice is higher priority. A higher nice value means that your program is nicer to other programs. |
[03:38:00] | Krazylegz: | You want mythfrontend to be less nice. |
[03:38:00] | mynameis: | ah...thanks for the help. And the interesting reading :) |
[03:39:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, I need a new job |
[03:39:00] | Krazylegz: | Always willing to help out the real Slim Shady. |
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[03:39:00] | PatrickDK: | anyone want to fund the, patrick doesn't work anymore fund? |
[03:40:00] | Krazylegz: | PatrickDK: Ask xris. He needs minions. kormoc doesn't appear to do anything. :-P |
[03:40:00] | mynameis: | lol, i'll donate -$100 |
[03:40:00] | PatrickDK: | hehe |
[03:40:00] | PatrickDK: | I have plunty of projects to work on |
[03:40:00] | PatrickDK: | if I didn't work, it would take about 5 months to finish them up |
[03:40:00] | PatrickDK: | then I can work again :) |
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[03:41:00] | Krazylegz: | So, you need food and Internet access for free for 5 months? |
[03:41:00] | PatrickDK: | and food for the wife and kid |
[03:42:00] | Krazylegz: | Pfffft. Give the kid up for adoption and divorce the wife. Live your dream! |
[03:42:00] | PatrickDK: | heh |
[03:42:00] | Krazylegz: | Maybe you could convince the wife to get another job and support you. That might be more realistic. |
[03:43:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, I would, if we could go without the medical problems she is having right now |
[03:43:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah. |
[03:43:00] | Krazylegz: | Pick a better time to be a hippie. :-P |
[03:43:00] | PatrickDK: | I know |
[03:44:00] | PatrickDK: | but my contract runs out nov 11th |
[03:44:00] | PatrickDK: | oh well |
[03:44:00] | Krazylegz: | That's my birthday. |
[03:45:00] | Krazylegz: | Veteran's Day. |
[03:45:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: btw, kormoc does plenty of work. more than me today (I was stuck digging through resumes) |
[03:45:00] | PatrickDK: | I got to get this mail system setup |
[03:46:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: I know, I'm just joshing him. |
[03:46:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, I had it setup and working in development servers |
[03:46:00] | PatrickDK: | but that was like almost a year ago |
[03:46:00] | PatrickDK: | now I have to replicate it in production |
[03:47:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: Lancaster County love. :-) |
[03:47:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: yes... just seems like he does ALL of the work lately. heh. |
[03:48:00] | Krazylegz: | Maybe if you weren't so slow in hiring a new minion. :-P |
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[03:49:00] | xris: | me? slow? |
[03:50:00] | xris: | well, I finally have a nice pile of applicants |
[03:50:00] | xris: | finally broke down and shelled out the $$ for monster.com |
[03:50:00] | PatrickDK: | now the question is how many actually sound acceptable |
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[03:50:00] | Krazylegz: | Pick me pick me! |
[03:50:00] | xris: | imho, half are overqualified, a third didn't read the job posting, and the rest might work |
[03:50:00] | Krazylegz: | Just let me work from home. |
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[03:51:00] | PatrickDK: | link so posting? |
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[03:51:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: yeah, I altered the description to explicitly state that won't work (doesn't stop people, though — got one from monster.com from france) |
[03:51:00] | xris: | http://www.siliconmechanics.com/i3290/careers/php-developer.php |
[03:52:00] | Krazylegz: | Does he speak the English? |
[03:52:00] | xris: | I also put in the pay range (still doesn't stop people looking for $30+/hour from applying, either) |
[03:52:00] | xris: | yeah. |
[03:52:00] | xris: | wants to work in the US, or france, or africa, or wherever. |
[03:52:00] | xris: | just didn't say anything about being able to pay his way out here for an interview. |
[03:52:00] | PatrickDK: | damn, I only have like 2 year in mysql and php |
[03:53:00] | PatrickDK: | but damn, those two years are a hell of alot |
[03:53:00] | xris: | PatrickDK: are you in the seattle area? |
[03:53:00] | PatrickDK: | oh, you want documented code |
[03:53:00] | Krazylegz: | I got an offer for $48k today. |
[03:53:00] | PatrickDK: | out of luck :) |
[03:54:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: same company? |
[03:54:00] | PatrickDK: | xris, wash d.c. |
[03:54:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: No, PayQuik. |
[03:54:00] | xris: | ah, yeah, that's a bit of a commute. heh. |
[03:54:00] | PatrickDK: | I start at $35/h though |
[03:54:00] | Krazylegz: | I work for a company in Orting. |
[03:54:00] | Krazylegz: | This place is in NE Philly. If I took it, I would have a 1–1/2 commute to and from work. |
[03:54:00] | Krazylegz: | No thanks. |
[03:54:00] | FunkyELF: | is there anything I need to include in the kernel to support suspend mode? I figure those that don't leave their myth boxes on 24/7 use suspend mode |
[03:55:00] | xris: | PatrickDK: heh. yeah, I can't afford that much. |
[03:55:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, leave it on 24/7 |
[03:55:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: yeah, that makes a big difference. |
[03:55:00] | PatrickDK: | xris,well, if I drop the wife and kid, that would be plunty though |
[03:56:00] | xris: | that's more than I make. heh. although DC is probably more expensive than seattle |
[03:56:00] | PatrickDK: | xris, I'm way too overqualified |
[03:56:00] | PatrickDK: | but then, I love programming :) |
[03:57:00] | xris: | that's the problem with half of my applicants. |
[03:58:00] | PatrickDK: | I can program just about any lang you can think of |
[03:58:00] | PatrickDK: | been programming for 20 years |
[03:58:00] | Krazylegz: | Trying to bring some flames? |
[03:58:00] | Krazylegz: | VAX Assembly. :-) |
[03:58:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, I read up on that, never actually touched |
[03:58:00] | xris: | the other problem is that there are a lot of companies out there willing to overpay underqualified people to do linux sysadmin work. |
[03:58:00] | xris: | PatrickDK: then I don't feel so bad — you have 10 years on me |
[03:58:00] | PatrickDK: | but I did do alot of machine lang |
[03:58:00] | PatrickDK: | that is always fun :) |
[03:58:00] | kormoc|afk: | PatrickDK, can you code a web browser with full javascript and css v3 support in brainfuck? |
[03:58:00] | PatrickDK: | ti99/4a machine lang |
[03:59:00] | xris: | well, 12 professionally |
[03:59:00] | Krazylegz: | kormoc brings the heat. |
[03:59:00] | kormoc|afk is now known as kormoc | |
[03:59:00] | kormoc: | :) |
[03:59:00] | PatrickDK: | xris, well, I only have like, hmm, maybe 1 directly professionally |
[03:59:00] | PatrickDK: | but I have done alot of programs and interfaces for people over the years |
[03:59:00] | xris: | kormoc is a perfect fit for his job. esp. the "willing to work for cheap" part. |
[04:00:00] | kormoc: | yay! The job's wonderful for myself as well. |
[04:00:00] | Krazylegz: | "This company has a Ramen benefit. All the Ramen you can eat, because that's all you can afford." |
[04:00:00] | xris: | PatrickDK: I tend to stick to one or two languages. would rather have a life and interests outside of computers. |
[04:00:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, I could really use being a trust fund baby right now |
[04:00:00] | xris: | my wife keeps asking if she can be a trophy wife. |
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[04:00:00] | PatrickDK: | xris, heh, well, I was 8years old when I started with basic, and learned it was to slow, and went stright to machine |
[04:01:00] | PatrickDK: | cause there was no asm compiler for that pc |
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[04:01:00] | xris: | ah.. I don't count that stuff... |
[04:01:00] | lwizardl: | hi |
[04:01:00] | kormoc: | Krazylegz, actually, I make enough to live comfrontably, quite comfrontably, except I made some mistakes... |
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[04:01:00] | xris: | well, basic. |
[04:01:00] | xris: | serious programming started in high school. |
[04:01:00] | xris: | kormoc: s/mistakes/roommates/ |
[04:01:00] | PatrickDK: | in highschool they tyough basic :( |
[04:01:00] | xris: | we got pascal |
[04:02:00] | Krazylegz: | I didn't start programming seriously until college. I thought I wanted to be a mechanical engineer. |
[04:02:00] | kormoc: | xris, indeed |
[04:02:00] | PatrickDK: | I learned apple][gs asm and c though |
[04:02:00] | xris: | I learned C on my own, but never got very far before I discovered perl |
[04:02:00] | PatrickDK: | I still hate perl |
[04:02:00] | xris: | I love/hate perl |
[04:02:00] | xris: | love/hate php |
[04:02:00] | PatrickDK: | can code it, but not unless I'm modifing another persons program |
[04:02:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, php is fun, evil but fun |
[04:02:00] | xris: | wish I knew more about gnu make and such so I could do C |
[04:02:00] | Krazylegz: | Heh. |
[04:02:00] | xris: | almost everything I do now is php |
[04:02:00] | PatrickDK: | heh? C is easy |
[04:02:00] | Krazylegz: | It's not so hard. |
[04:03:00] | xris: | C is easy. autoconf/make is not |
[04:03:00] | PatrickDK: | make is easy |
[04:03:00] | Krazylegz: | Same here. PHP pays my bills, but I'd usually rather do something else. |
[04:03:00] | PatrickDK: | audoconf is a pain |
[04:03:00] | xris: | I don't do anything unless I can do it right |
[04:03:00] | Krazylegz: | Ever do any Ruby? |
[04:03:00] | PatrickDK: | damned keyboard |
[04:03:00] | xris: | briefly looked at it, didn't go much further than that, though. |
[04:03:00] | PatrickDK: | ruby, no, damned thing is a disk hog |
[04:04:00] | xris: | I want to learn java next, but I'm hoping that by the time I have time to learn it, perl6 will be out. |
[04:04:00] | PatrickDK: | have you done c++? |
[04:04:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: Which languages do you know? |
[04:04:00] | lwizardl: | is there a listing of analog capture cards that work in mythtv? |
[04:04:00] | xris: | strongly? php, perl and bash |
[04:04:00] | xris: | well, sort of bash |
[04:04:00] | xris: | lwizardl: anything that v4l supports |
[04:05:00] | lwizardl: | xris: url? |
[04:05:00] | xris: | lwizardl: google.com? |
[04:05:00] | xris: | video for linux |
[04:05:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: I've been coding long enough that I can read/tweak pretty much anything (as long as I don't have to deal with specific libraries) |
[04:06:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, that's usually not too hard. |
[04:06:00] | xris: | that's where I ran into trouble with python... too many libraries. |
[04:06:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah. |
[04:06:00] | xris: | that and I *like* braces. |
[04:06:00] | Krazylegz: | Haha. |
[04:06:00] | ** Krazylegz grabs some old Lisp code ** | |
[04:06:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, lisp |
[04:06:00] | Krazylegz: | Lisp was neat. |
[04:06:00] | PatrickDK: | I had do learn that for autocad |
[04:06:00] | Krazylegz: | Prolog was neat too. |
[04:06:00] | xris: | ok, maybe not THAT much. |
[04:07:00] | Krazylegz: | Yes, I recall doing Lisp with AutoCAD as well. |
[04:07:00] | PatrickDK: | prolog? I know that |
[04:07:00] | PatrickDK: | can't think of why |
[04:07:00] | Krazylegz: | That was a pretty long time ago. |
[04:07:00] | Krazylegz: | PatrickDK: You were solving the 4 colors problem and got creative. :-) |
[04:07:00] | PatrickDK: | forth is always interesting |
[04:08:00] | ** xris groans about how slow LW is in finishing up perl6 ** | |
[04:09:00] | Krazylegz: | JSP was......interesting. |
[04:09:00] | xris: | want to rewrite mythweb (again), too... but that'll have to stay php, despite how much I hate some o fit. |
[04:09:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, hurry up on that so that I can help with stuff. |
[04:10:00] | lwizardl: | cool my old happauge card seems to work |
[04:10:00] | PatrickDK: | yep |
[04:10:00] | PatrickDK: | it's 878 or 848 based |
[04:10:00] | PatrickDK: | bttv |
[04:10:00] | xris: | lwizardl: cool. good thing to start/test with... |
[04:10:00] | Krazylegz: | "Perl 5 was my rewrite of Perl. I want Perl 6 to be the community's rewrite of Perl and of the community." — Larry Wall. |
[04:11:00] | PatrickDK: | it will use up some cpu though |
[04:11:00] | lwizardl: | bt 848 |
[04:11:00] | lwizardl: | haven't used it in ages. anyone still use one? |
[04:11:00] | PatrickDK: | I am currently |
[04:11:00] | PatrickDK: | have it in my winxp machine |
[04:12:00] | PatrickDK: | mainly just to check video |
[04:12:00] | xris: | lwizardl: I upgraded to a pvr-150 about 4 months ago or so. |
[04:12:00] | lwizardl: | hows the captures? and whats video specs does it support |
[04:12:00] | PatrickDK: | heh? |
[04:12:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: and from what I've read, it'll be great and fix most of my gripes with it (well, my only gripe with 5 is that it has no true object support) |
[04:13:00] | xris: | lwizardl: captures depend on the card itself — most of those old cards aren't so great. |
[04:13:00] | PatrickDK: | video specs? |
[04:13:00] | Frostilicus: | hey guys, any idea why my hauppauge remote works with the irw program, but not in mythfrontend? |
[04:13:00] | lwizardl: | resolutions that can be captured (like 640x480 or higher) |
[04:14:00] | PatrickDK: | 720x480 |
[04:14:00] | lwizardl: | ok so i can do dvd spec with it |
[04:14:00] | xris: | lwizardl: within mythtv, yes. but keep in mind that the card is far less than that. |
[04:14:00] | mchou: | lwizardl: heh, you have some "special" needs? :) |
[04:15:00] | lwizardl: | mchou: just getting responses from users with some hardware on what they have been seccessful with |
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[04:16:00] | xris: | lwizardl: pvr-150 is the card of choice. |
[04:16:00] | lwizardl: | xris: i'm planing on upgrading to that and a nexus-s |
[04:16:00] | PatrickDK: | pvr-150 is the best :) |
[04:17:00] | mchou: | bah, 150 aint the best :) Some ppl swear by convertX |
[04:17:00] | lwizardl: | but the nexus-s doesn't seem to be listed |
[04:17:00] | PatrickDK: | convertx is dvix/xvid though |
[04:17:00] | mchou: | or whatever that plextor product is called |
[04:17:00] | PatrickDK: | if it ain't mpeg, I won't use it |
[04:17:00] | xris: | mchou: plextor costs 3x the 150, though |
[04:18:00] | xris: | lwizardl: dvb cards are in a category of their own |
[04:18:00] | mchou: | xris: yeah, but PatrickDK didnt mention cost, he said best :) |
[04:18:00] | lwizardl: | xris: oh |
[04:18:00] | PatrickDK: | dvb isn't a capture card though |
[04:18:00] | mchou: | best would be an ATSC card :) |
[04:18:00] | PatrickDK: | it's just a stream passthough, I thought |
[04:18:00] | PatrickDK: | atscis same deal, not a capture card |
[04:19:00] | mchou: | PatrickDK: lol, you splitting hairs now? ATSC tuner card, ok? |
[04:19:00] | lwizardl: | i was told i need it to be able to record my dish network setup (without needing the receiver box) |
[04:19:00] | xris: | PatrickDK: sort of... it's a tuner, not an encoder. |
[04:20:00] | xris: | lwizardl: you can't record dish with a dvb card (legally/easily)... |
[04:20:00] | xris: | I use a pvr-150 hooked up via svideo |
[04:20:00] | PatrickDK: | ya, it's a receive only radio, with channel select |
[04:21:00] | xris: | PatrickDK: yeah. it's more than just a passthrough, though. but no data decoding or anything like that. |
[04:21:00] | lwizardl: | xris: yeah currently i'm subscribed to their "America's everything" package damn near everything they have minus HDTV |
[04:21:00] | xris: | lwizardl: google for "losdos mythtv" to get instructions on hooking up your dish box to mythtv. |
[04:22:00] | xris: | takes an ir blaster (irblaster.info — about the same price as building your own, and you get something nicer-looking) |
[04:24:00] | xris: | lwizardl: you can theoretically tap into the direct dvb signal from dish, but it's encrypted, and illegal to decrypt it (even for those of us who pay for it), and talking about it here (any more than I just said) will get you kicked/silenced/banned pretty quickly. |
[04:24:00] | lwizardl: | k understandable |
[04:25:00] | lwizardl: | anyone here cap from vhs? (i know the horrible picture) |
[04:25:00] | ** xris curses the dmca ** | |
[04:25:00] | xris: | lwizardl: I go through my camcorder into imovie for that stuff. |
[04:26:00] | lwizardl: | imovie? |
[04:26:00] | lwizardl: | ah mac os user |
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[04:27:00] | ** xris is an all-OS user ** | |
[04:27:00] | xris: | but nothing compares to imovie+idvd for making home videos. |
[04:28:00] | lwizardl: | well for now i'm a windows users (just til I find a liux distro that likes my computer hardware) |
[04:28:00] | lwizardl: | *user |
[04:29:00] | xris: | windows moviemaker 2 isn't bad, but has crappy dvd integration. better than mythtv for home video stuff. |
[04:30:00] | lwizardl: | i'm using Ulead DVD movie Factory for my home videos |
[04:32:00] | xris: | I'd stick with that, then... for that stuff, anyway. |
[04:33:00] | lwizardl: | is the card most people are using the pvr-150 MCE ? |
[04:34:00] | lwizardl: | or is mce cards not usable |
[04:35:00] | xris: | not necessarily "most people"... but it's the suggested card, yes. |
[04:36:00] | xris: | I have the mce version, others have the retail version.. there are actually 4–6 different versions of the card (chipset)... basically, retail costs more and comes with a remote.. mce has no remote, but has RCA style audio inputs instead of headphone jack style. |
[04:36:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, low profile :) |
[04:37:00] | lwizardl: | ok |
[04:37:00] | eiggirC: | yeah the low profile version of the PVR 150 is bloody cheap |
[04:37:00] | FunkyELF: | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/vg/video |
[04:37:00] | xris: | oh, and the low profile one. |
[04:37:00] | FunkyELF: | anyone here know LVM? |
[04:37:00] | xris: | eiggirC: huh? it's usually about $15 more. |
[04:37:00] | eiggirC: | and the only difference between the MCE and non-MCE is the software and some of the connectors |
[04:37:00] | eiggirC: | xris: not here. |
[04:38:00] | eiggirC: | I'm still waiting for my 150 to arrive.... dum de doo |
[04:38:00] | lwizardl: | what about the ATI Remote control mythtv support it (USB) |
[04:38:00] | xris: | wholesale, it's usually $60 vs $72... awesome if you found it cheaper. |
[04:38:00] | eiggirC: | Would mythtv work on a sunvideo capture card? |
[04:39:00] | eiggirC: | xris: here its $151 for the lp and $172 for the MCE version, and $232 for the non MCE version |
[04:40:00] | xris: | eiggirC: AU? |
[04:40:00] | eiggirC: | xris: New Zealand |
[04:40:00] | xris: | close enough. heh. ;) |
[04:41:00] | eiggirC: | heh close yes. But we're different countries |
[04:41:00] | xris: | trust me, I know. |
[04:41:00] | eiggirC: | like Canada vs USA |
[04:41:00] | xris: | NZ is much nicer. |
[04:41:00] | xris: | fewer snakes, less desert, peter jacksons... |
[04:42:00] | eiggirC: | no snakes, some spiders but not many. |
[04:42:00] | eiggirC: | no nukes, police have no guns, the crims generally have no guns, its all good |
[04:42:00] | xris: | oh, and legal distilling |
[04:42:00] | eiggirC: | unfortunately, 256 kbit/sec is "broadband" and we have data caps of 1–10 Gb a month, but not everything can be perfect. |
[04:44:00] | xris: | ick |
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[05:06:00] | frox: | anyone got a pvr-500 working with a via chipset? |
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[05:07:00] | alainm: | hi i am just building my myth box with a 350 |
[05:07:00] | alainm: | i am running the dd test to output my video from the input right out to the output.. |
[05:07:00] | alainm: | and i see the video on my tv |
[05:08:00] | alainm: | but it has these white bars that go across it |
[05:08:00] | alainm: | thoughts? |
[05:08:00] | Krazylegz: | Try the ivtvctl thingie to change your alpha around or something. I forget what it is exactly. |
[05:09:00] | frox: | krazylegz, you know if there is any ivtvctrl config i can do to try to stop my computer from rebooting everytime i start watching tv w/ my pvr-500mce |
[05:09:00] | frox: | ? |
[05:09:00] | Krazylegz: | Heh, no idea. |
[05:10:00] | frox: | damn, this thing sucks |
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[05:12:00] | alainm: | what NTSC resolution should i set my card at? |
[05:12:00] | alainm: | for non HD |
[05:12:00] | Krazylegz: | Whatever the how-to says. |
[05:16:00] | alainm: | hmm.. that ivtvctl is not helping me out.. |
[05:16:00] | alainm: | tried different res |
[05:17:00] | alainm: | i have it set for NTSC |
[05:17:00] | PatrickDK: | just use 720x480 |
[05:17:00] | PatrickDK: | anything else isn't pretty |
[05:17:00] | alainm: | yes.. thats what i am using |
[05:18:00] | alainm: | but i just can't get those white bars to go away |
[05:18:00] | PatrickDK: | you won't |
[05:18:00] | PatrickDK: | it's called overscan |
[05:18:00] | alainm: | oh.. |
[05:18:00] | alainm: | so what am i supposed to do? |
[05:19:00] | PatrickDK: | make the picture larger than the screen |
[05:19:00] | PatrickDK: | white bars are at the top or bottom? |
[05:19:00] | alainm: | all thruout the screen |
[05:19:00] | ShockValue: | anyone here using gentoo? |
[05:19:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, that isn't right |
[05:19:00] | PatrickDK: | what are you displaying it on? |
[05:19:00] | alainm: | on my tv |
[05:20:00] | PatrickDK: | try displaying it on a monitor |
[05:20:00] | PatrickDK: | see if it's just the tv out, or not |
[05:20:00] | alainm: | how do i do that? |
[05:20:00] | PatrickDK: | heh? |
[05:20:00] | PatrickDK: | video card? |
[05:20:00] | alainm: | yes.. i tried capturig to a file.. then playing that back |
[05:20:00] | alainm: | it's perfect.. |
[05:21:00] | PatrickDK: | so it's not the capture |
[05:21:00] | PatrickDK: | it's the playback |
[05:21:00] | alainm: | no the capture is good.. |
[05:21:00] | PatrickDK: | what are you using to play it back with? |
[05:22:00] | alainm: | now one thing.. even if i am not playing anything.. |
[05:22:00] | alainm: | the lines are still there |
[05:22:00] | PatrickDK: | what device are you using? |
[05:22:00] | PatrickDK: | damn it |
[05:22:00] | alainm: | 350 |
[05:22:00] | PatrickDK: | answer or no help |
[05:22:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, you try upgrading the decoder firmware? |
[05:23:00] | alainm: | n |
[05:23:00] | alainm: | no |
[05:23:00] | alainm: | don't know you could do that on those cards |
[05:23:00] | PatrickDK: | you must not of install ivtv correcly than |
[05:23:00] | PatrickDK: | well, you have to install the encoder firmware atleast |
[05:24:00] | PatrickDK: | for the encoder to work |
[05:24:00] | alainm: | i followed the wilsonnet howto to the letter |
[05:24:00] | PatrickDK: | go back to reading the ivtv info |
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[05:50:00] | _shad: | Client does not support authentication protocol requested by server; consider upgrading MySQL client |
[05:50:00] | _shad: | ... Just did a debian update that updated mysql to 4.1. Anyone seen this? |
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[05:58:00] | Krazylegz: | mysql --version |
[06:00:00] | _shad: | mysql Ver 14.7 Distrib 4.1.14, for pc-linux-gnu (i486) using readline 5.0 |
[06:01:00] | Krazylegz: | Looks good then. |
[06:02:00] | _shad: | looks like libmyth is linked to libqt-msql, which is linked to libmysql12, which is 4.0.24 |
[06:02:00] | _shad: | :) |
[06:04:00] | Krazylegz: | Good work. |
[06:05:00] | _shad: | Yea. kinda sucks |
[06:06:00] | Agrajag-: | what debian are you using? |
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[06:07:00] | _shad: | unstable |
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[06:08:00] | Agrajag-: | heh.. well you can't complain then can you :P |
[06:08:00] | _shad: | :) |
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[06:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | anybody here having issues with myth + comcast? |
[06:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | to where the image is in a box? |
[06:28:00] | Krazylegz: | Explain. |
[06:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | umm |
[06:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hang on |
[06:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Tom Bearden |
[06:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | bah |
[06:29:00] | ** Krazylegz hangs ** | |
[06:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | wrong paste |
[06:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | do a google search on that name its pretty interesting |
[06:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://home.comcast.net/~slicerdicer/mythproblem.png there |
[06:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | all 4 sides have black bars |
[06:30:00] | Krazylegz: | Yes. |
[06:30:00] | Krazylegz: | Not that bad, though. |
[06:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yours does that? |
[06:30:00] | Krazylegz: | Lookup overscan/underscan. |
[06:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well... |
[06:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | if I plug a dvd player into myth for the input |
[06:30:00] | Krazylegz: | Not nearly that bad. I can just tell the difference between Myth and my direct feed by seeing how much border I have. |
[06:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | insted of tv |
[06:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its fine |
[06:30:00] | Krazylegz: | Er, not border, but I'm seeing more. |
[06:31:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah. The television stations send more than what the television can show, and it's supposed to get cut off. |
[06:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hmm |
[06:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | why would my hauppauge just start doing it recently on its own |
[06:31:00] | Agrajag-: | i think you want to overscan it |
[06:31:00] | Krazylegz: | Is that a cell phone picture of your television? |
[06:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | eh? |
[06:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats not my tv |
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[06:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats the clip that mythweb displays |
[06:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but it shows the point |
[06:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Krazylegz, but yeah it just started doing it on the 28th |
[06:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | for no reason |
[06:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | some channels do it some dont |
[06:32:00] | Krazylegz: | You didn't upgrade on that day or something? |
[06:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no |
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[06:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | why would some channels do it and some not |
[06:33:00] | Krazylegz: | I see channels do it more if they have graphics overlayed on top. |
[06:33:00] | Krazylegz: | Logos, tickers, etc. |
[06:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so how would I fix it? |
[06:33:00] | Krazylegz: | Overscan. |
[06:33:00] | PaulWay: | rapid synopsis please? |
[06:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I did not find anything on google related to overscan and hauppauge |
[06:34:00] | Krazylegz: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-22.html#ss22.4 |
[06:34:00] | Krazylegz: | Scroll down just a bit. |
[06:34:00] | Krazylegz: | Before 22.5. |
[06:34:00] | Chutt: | if it's only happening for some channels, i doubt it has anything to do with myth or ivtv. |
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[06:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Krazylegz, but the odd thing :/ |
[06:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it just recently started doing it with some channels that never did it before |
[06:35:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh, right. I don't have a solution for it happening on only some channels. I just deal. Mine isn't that bad. |
[06:35:00] | Krazylegz: | Could it be the content? |
[06:35:00] | Chutt: | check it without myth in the loop |
[06:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I did Chutt |
[06:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mplayer /dev/video0 and it was messed up |
[06:36:00] | PaulWay: | Any other new things happened recently? New broadcast tower, new aerial, new cabling? |
[06:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | not that I am aware of unless comcast changed something |
[06:36:00] | Chutt: | so why on earth are you asking in here? |
[06:36:00] | Krazylegz: | Those sneaky devils. |
[06:36:00] | Chutt: | it's obviously not a myth problem. |
[06:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Chutt, maybe somebody knows? |
[06:37:00] | PaulWay: | Maybe he was hoping other people might have seen the same problem? |
[06:37:00] | Chutt: | i bet the same thing's happening without the encoder at all, if he would plug the cable into the tv |
[06:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | maybe it was a recent update that comcast did and screwed up everybody elses recorder? |
[06:37:00] | Chutt: | why would it be the recorder? |
[06:38:00] | PaulWay: | I think Chutt is right, though, if it's application independent, it's not the application. |
[06:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well you know what I mean yeash it screwed up the video input there |
[06:38:00] | PaulWay: | (Small but finite chance that it could be a shared library...) |
[06:38:00] | Chutt: | how do you know it's the tuner card? |
[06:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont Chutt thats why I asked |
[06:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I know other people here use comcast |
[06:38:00] | Chutt: | so you tested it without the computer at all? |
[06:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats why I was asking |
[06:38:00] | Chutt: | comcast is a fucking national company. |
[06:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | omg Chutt nvm |
[06:39:00] | Chutt: | with lots of little local offices that do things differently than every other local office |
[06:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah well I was hoping that somebody may have had the same issue with comcast and perhaps had it happen recently |
[06:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | is that to much to ask? |
[06:39:00] | Chutt: | yes |
[06:39:00] | PaulWay: | It's always tempting to blame the company, but most are too conservative to bring in any change that might affect a lot of users. |
[06:39:00] | Chutt: | did you test it without the computer? |
[06:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | with a tv you mean? |
[06:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it worked fine |
[06:40:00] | Chutt: | and you have the same amount of overscan on the computer that your tv does? |
[06:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no |
[06:40:00] | PaulWay: | How many cables did you have to change to get that working, SlicerDicer? |
[06:40:00] | Chutt: | paulway, if it's channel dependent, it's not the cabling |
[06:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok damn I will explain what all I did |
[06:41:00] | Chutt: | it's not the computer, it's not the encoder card, it's not myth. |
[06:41:00] | PaulWay: | Chutt: not so – some channels may be weaker and therefore more affected by noise, etc. |
[06:41:00] | Chutt: | paulway, so. noise or interference wouldn't change the size of the picture |
[06:41:00] | Chutt: | unless it's _really_ bad and causing it to not display properly at all. |
[06:41:00] | PaulWay: | OK, so I came in late and don't know what' |
[06:42:00] | PaulWay: | the actual problem is, and I haven't been given a rapid synopsis. |
[06:42:00] | PaulWay: | 8:-) |
[06:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I plugged in the same cables that go to the mythbox into tv it did not have the overscan at all... plug it into the hauppauge its screwed up with 4 bars around the sides. I plug dvdplayer into the hauppauge its fine no overscan |
[06:42:00] | Krazylegz: | He is experiencing overscan. |
[06:42:00] | Chutt: | he's bitching that some (and only some) channels are underscanned more than others. |
[06:42:00] | Krazylegz: | Er, underscan. Whatever Chutt said. |
[06:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah what Chutt said |
[06:42:00] | PaulWay: | Right. |
[06:43:00] | PaulWay: | Analogue, I'm assuming? |
[06:43:00] | Chutt: | of course. |
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[06:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | running via svideo out of my comcast box into the hauppauge |
[06:44:00] | PaulWay: | Very weird. |
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[06:44:00] | Chutt: | on channels that do work fine, is the amount of overscan the same through your computer and to the tv directly? |
[06:44:00] | PaulWay: | Does it vary? On the channels that are affected, do you see it more at some times and not others? |
[06:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yep Chutt its exactly the same |
[06:44:00] | Chutt: | exactly the same? |
[06:44:00] | PaulWay: | (Corresponding to the time the program was recorded, not played) |
[06:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yep Chutt |
[06:45:00] | Chutt: | if you switch back and forth, between, say, a stock ticker, the exact same amount of info is shown? |
[06:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | let me double check for ya |
[06:46:00] | Krazylegz: | Chutt: Are you thinking it has to do with deinterlacing/interlacing? |
[06:46:00] | Chutt: | no, i'm thinking he has X setup wrong and is just seeing the safe area :p |
[06:46:00] | PaulWay: | I don't think that's right. |
[06:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well aint that my luck when I go to do it for some reason there is commercials :) |
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[06:47:00] | PaulWay: | My guess is either some kind of signal change on the comcast side, which most other people are not seeing or not caring about, |
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[06:48:00] | PaulWay: | hang on, afk |
[06:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok yeah there is a bit of space below the ticker your right Chutt |
[06:48:00] | Chutt: | <gasp> |
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[06:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so you said it may be X? |
[06:49:00] | Chutt: | broadcast tv is meant to be overscanned by 5% or so on all sides |
[06:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what I am wondering is how X can impact recording a show or movie and when I 'mplayer /dev/video0' it shows it |
[06:50:00] | Chutt: | ie, the picture is larger than the actual visible screen by 5% or so |
[06:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | is it that I need to set my hauppauge to underscan? |
[06:50:00] | Chutt: | there is no setting |
[06:50:00] | Chutt: | on the tuner card |
[06:50:00] | Chutt: | it records what is broadcast to it |
[06:50:00] | Chutt: | you have a playback issue |
[06:50:00] | Chutt: | no? |
[06:51:00] | PaulWay: | right. or it's some kind of signal change between the comcast out and the computer in, affected by e.g. other appliances in the house or some strange wiring problem. |
[06:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Chutt, well it never usto do this :/ it just all the sudden started on the 28th for no apparent reason |
[06:51:00] | Chutt: | paulway, still wouldn't change the size of the picture, really. |
[06:51:00] | Chutt: | he's just got X displaying smaller than the tv is, is all. |
[06:51:00] | PaulWay: | Well, that would be true for all channels, then. |
[06:51:00] | PaulWay: | But it isn't. |
[06:51:00] | Chutt: | sure it would |
[06:52:00] | Chutt: | 5% is a lot of space :p |
[06:52:00] | Chutt: | they don't _have_ to display stuff in there |
[06:52:00] | PaulWay: | Yeah, true. I don't understand – I thought it was only on a couple of channels? |
[06:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Chutt, why would it start doing it all the sudden without me changing X or anything? |
[06:52:00] | Chutt: | if they're chopping that for some reason (bandwidth reasons for a digital broadcast, for instance) |
[06:52:00] | Chutt: | it would be visible if he didn't bother configuring X properly. |
[06:52:00] | Krazylegz: | It could maybe be a combination of the channel content/Comcast and your X config not having been perfect before |
[06:53:00] | Chutt: | comcast changed something |
[06:53:00] | Chutt: | which makes your X config problem visible. |
[06:53:00] | Krazylegz: | SlicerDicer-: Pick a channel. I have Comcast here. |
[06:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | 272 271 273 |
[06:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
[06:54:00] | Krazylegz: | Doh. I don't have digital cable. |
[06:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | although thats discovery channels upper ones |
[06:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | this is digital cable |
[06:54:00] | Krazylegz: | Okay. |
[06:54:00] | Krazylegz: | Did you try it without the digital cable box in there? |
[06:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no cause I use svideo input |
[06:54:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah. |
[06:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Chutt, if I change X to where it should be btw it is 800x600 on the backend/frontend main box... will it record the video without those bars around the edges or will they still exist and not show up on the frontend of the correct X setting? |
[06:56:00] | Chutt: | they won't show up |
[06:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | at all? |
[06:56:00] | Chutt: | they'll be recorded, of course. |
[06:57:00] | Chutt: | but when displayed properly, the image will be the same size as on your tv. |
[06:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well shit |
[06:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its not a viable option to change all my frontends resolutions |
[06:59:00] | Krazylegz: | Why not? |
[06:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I usto just be able to press W and have it fill my screen |
[06:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | if it was not filled |
[06:59:00] | Krazylegz: | You can still zoom, I suppose. |
[07:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Krazylegz, beacuse I am not going to change my settings on my main computers that have native resolutions just to watch TV so its not viable :/ |
[07:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | also when I go to rip the video to dvd it will have those bars |
[07:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I will have to crop that and thats too much work |
[07:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | comcast sucks shit |
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[07:02:00] | Chutt: | you can always just adjust the overscan settings in myth |
[07:02:00] | Krazylegz: | This is where we were 20 minutes ago. :-) |
[07:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
[07:02:00] | ** Krazylegz hides ** | |
[07:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Chutt, if I set overscan will it overscan the recordings? |
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[07:04:00] | Chutt: | no, of course not |
[07:04:00] | Chutt: | you need to listen |
[07:04:00] | Chutt: | this is not a recording issue |
[07:04:00] | Chutt: | it is a display issue. |
[07:04:00] | Chutt: | it's not a problem with the channel, or comcast, or anything other than how you're displaying things. |
[07:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well then why did it work fine on all channels before without being set to overscan then on the 28th it screwed up... it recorded it without the black bars etc now they have it |
[07:06:00] | Chutt: | i'm not explaining again. |
[07:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | all the old recorded videos do not have overscan like that and work fine |
[07:06:00] | Agrajag-: | SlicerDicer-: do you have selective reading problems or what? |
[07:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | none of the videos pre 28th have black bars now they do |
[07:07:00] | Chutt: | so? |
[07:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well chutt said its not comcast not channel not anything other then how its displayed |
[07:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | how does that explain it working fine before the 28th on recording without bars then all the sudden recording with bars |
[07:07:00] | Chutt: | i explained that above |
[07:07:00] | Chutt: | go learn how to read english. |
[07:07:00] | Agrajag-: | he explained earlier what might've changed |
[07:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh well |
[07:11:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: you get new speakers recently? :) |
[07:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no |
[07:11:00] | mchou: | maybe bought a new MRI machine? :) |
[07:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no |
[07:11:00] | mchou: | haha :) |
[07:11:00] | fryfrog: | haha |
[07:12:00] | mchou: | maybe aliens decended on WA :) |
[07:12:00] | fryfrog: | do you live next to a junk yard where they have one of those huge car magnets? :) |
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[07:14:00] | PaulWay: | SlicerDicer: Upgraded X recently? |
[07:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no |
[07:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | 4 frontends all experience the same issue :) |
[07:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | all different versions of X |
[07:16:00] | Krazylegz: | That's fine. If you're displaying any part of the safe area, then Comcast is still sending a valid signal, and everything is working properly. |
[07:17:00] | fryfrog: | you didn't accidentaly set your comcast box to output a6:9 over svideo? |
[07:17:00] | fryfrog: | er, 16:(? |
[07:17:00] | fryfrog: | BAH |
[07:17:00] | fryfrog: | you know what i mean |
[07:17:00] | Chutt: | heh |
[07:17:00] | Chutt: | do they let you do that? |
[07:18:00] | fryfrog: | i dunno :) |
[07:18:00] | Chutt: | mine only has options for the component outs |
[07:18:00] | Chutt: | http://scanline.ca/overscan/ |
[07:18:00] | Chutt: | there, that explains things with pictures |
[07:19:00] | Krazylegz: | Oooo, pictures. |
[07:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | looking Chutt |
[07:19:00] | fryfrog: | ohhh, pictures! |
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[07:23:00] | Krazylegz: | So, we're all clear on this now? |
[07:23:00] | Krazylegz: | We're all in the safe area on this? :-) |
[07:23:00] | fryfrog: | i'm sorry, i'm displaying outside the safe action area :/ |
[07:23:00] | ** Krazylegz stabs fryfrog ** | |
[07:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
[07:24:00] | mchou: | Is it safe? (operates drill) |
[07:24:00] | ** fryfrog bleeds to death while cursing USB knives! ** | |
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[07:30:00] | Krazylegz: | kormoc posted this earlier. It's great. We should get one for the channel. |
[07:30:00] | Krazylegz: | http://www.firebox.com/index.html?dir=firebox . . . amp;pid=1109 |
[07:31:00] | Krazylegz: | I particularly like the topmost one. |
[07:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | LOL |
[07:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats horrid |
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[07:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://www.wusthof.com/main.htm thats my knifes Krazylegz |
[07:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | :) |
[07:35:00] | Krazylegz: | Nice. I have some Cutco. |
[07:36:00] | PaulWay: | I've already got a good knife set and block but I should give my brother that... :-) |
[07:37:00] | Krazylegz: | My Cutco is too pricey. I got a good deal because I was a rep for a bit. |
[07:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Krazylegz, yeah those Wusthof knifes aint cheap :) |
[07:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | my chefs knife was 110$ |
[07:37:00] | Krazylegz: | That's about right. |
[07:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah I like wusthof cause of how nice the edge sharpens and the way they are forged |
[07:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | they sing when you sharpen them too :) |
[07:38:00] | Krazylegz: | Heh. |
[07:38:00] | Krazylegz: | Save a few bucks on different knives and get a radio. ;-) |
[07:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | why a radio? |
[07:39:00] | Krazylegz: | Because the knives sing. |
[07:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I can steam radio stations :) |
[07:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
[07:39:00] | Krazylegz: | Better yet, you could play your recordings but watch the knives. You'd never notice the underscan then. |
[07:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
[07:40:00] | ** SlicerDicer- throws some cheap walmart knife at Krazylegz and watches it bounce off and not impale cause its so cheap ** | |
[07:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | shall we try with the wusthof? |
[07:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | :P |
[07:40:00] | Krazylegz: | Haha. |
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[07:42:00] | Krazylegz: | Time for bed. Long day tomorrow. |
[07:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Krazylegz, I sure like the wusthof it may be expensive but I own a ton of saladmaster pans too :) |
[07:42:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, I have to get my own kitchen first. |
[07:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | :) |
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[07:56:00] | rage-: | any knowledged dvb people here? |
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[07:58:00] | Agrajag-: | rage-: whats' the problem? |
[07:59:00] | Alien88: | a few of my channels the resolution seems off in the recordings and live tv.. does anyone have any suggestions? I'm kinda stumped |
[08:02:00] | rage-: | Agrajag-, mind if I pm you? |
[08:02:00] | Agrajag-: | can't you just ask here? |
[08:03:00] | rage-: | of course I could |
[08:03:00] | rage-: | but I've got a few questions and would prefer not to spam the chan |
[08:03:00] | Agrajag-: | it's better to ask here, other people might benefit from the conversation |
[08:04:00] | rage-: | well I'll start with this |
[08:04:00] | rage-: | if I've got multiple video sources, how can I switch between them in the frontend? |
[08:04:00] | rage-: | I've noticed the channels in one of them are available |
[08:05:00] | Agrajag-: | 'c' my default switches cards |
[08:05:00] | Agrajag-: | s/my/by |
[08:06:00] | rage-: | that switches cards |
[08:06:00] | rage-: | I'm talking about video sources though |
[08:06:00] | rage-: | that you set up in mythtv-setup in the video sources menu |
[08:06:00] | rage-: | or, video menu, rather |
[08:06:00] | Agrajag-: | err yeah i meant 'c' changes the input of a card |
[08:09:00] | Agrajag-: | i've changed my keybindings, but if you check the keybindings table there's keys for both SWITCHCARDS and TOGGLEINPUTS. pretty sure 'c' is for TOGGLEINPUTS |
[08:09:00] | Agrajag-: | by default |
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[08:10:00] | rage-: | I've got a single card with a single input, and I've got a 22 switch hooked to the end of the card |
[08:10:00] | rage-: | from there I need to be able to toggle the switch on and off |
[08:10:00] | rage-: | is there any way to do this besides making two video sources? |
[08:11:00] | rage-: | I noticed you can set up disq in the capture card area |
[08:12:00] | Agrajag-: | hmm no idea |
[08:13:00] | Alien88: | stupid fucking comcast |
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[08:38:00] | travolta: | Alien88, SlicerDicer was having same problem as you |
[08:39:00] | travolta: | just happen recently? |
[08:39:00] | Alien88: | yeah |
[08:39:00] | travolta: | setp 28? |
[08:39:00] | Alien88: | probably |
[08:39:00] | Alien88: | i dont watch much tv, but i noticed my recordings were weird |
[08:39:00] | Alien88: | and it happened after i cleared the channel database to fix my lineup |
[08:39:00] | Alien88: | so i was thinking it was myth.. but i just plugged it directly into the tv and its still messed up |
[08:39:00] | PaulWay: | What's weird about them? |
[08:40:00] | Alien88: | they look like they've been zoomed+boxed |
[08:40:00] | travolta: | same problem SlicerDicer was having i think |
[08:40:00] | PaulWay: | Yeah, that's SlicerDicer's problem. |
[08:40:00] | PaulWay: | And Chutt was so convinced it was SlicerDicer's configuration... |
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[08:42:00] | PaulWay: | BTW, is there any facility in MythTV to record a program from a video input like a VHS input? |
[08:42:00] | PaulWay: | I want to dub some tapes across into MythTV. |
[08:42:00] | PaulWay: | I'm assuming I need to set up a video source for /dev/video or something like that, yeah? |
[08:43:00] | travolta: | just change the settings for input and just record manually and play vcr |
[08:43:00] | PaulWay: | Ahhhh, right. But how do I select that input in the front end? |
[08:43:00] | travolta: | maybe front end or setup program |
[08:43:00] | travolta: | mythtv-setup or mythfrontend |
[08:44:00] | PaulWay: | Ah, I think I see – there's some part of mythfrontend's setup that'll say what its video source is. |
[08:44:00] | PaulWay: | Select 'analogue video-in' instead of 'digital tv' or whatever. |
[08:44:00] | PaulWay: | I'll have to wait until I get home to try it. |
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[09:11:00] | Alien88: | talked with comcast, apparently they're getting numerous complaints about it |
[09:11:00] | Alien88: | unplugging the box for 30 seconds and plugging it back in fixes it |
[09:12:00] | mchou: | goddamn! |
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[09:20:00] | knight_: | i lost one of my directv remotes... anyone have the ir codes for the HRMC-12? |
[09:21:00] | knight_: | need the codes for my usb-uirt |
[09:21:00] | mchou: | knight_: oh, a dude with usb-uirt!!! How does it work? You build it yourself or buy? |
[09:22:00] | mchou: | How well* does it work :) |
[09:22:00] | knight_: | it works well |
[09:22:00] | mchou: | knight_: you build it yourself? |
[09:23:00] | knight_: | nope, bought it |
[09:23:00] | mchou: | bah, where's the fun in that :) |
[09:23:00] | knight_: | i've built many things in the past, dont have time to muck around with a silly ir blaster :) |
[09:23:00] | mchou: | haha, no doubt |
[09:25:00] | knight_: | yeah |
[09:25:00] | mchou: | you didnt have to mess with it too much? like different versions of firmware, etc.? |
[09:25:00] | mchou: | plug'nplay? |
[09:26:00] | mchou: | or plug'npray? :) |
[09:26:00] | knight_: | nope |
[09:26:00] | knight_: | works pretty much out of the box |
[09:26:00] | mchou: | nice |
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[09:51:00] | eric_: | my sound is coming out distorted on my TV, how do i fix this? |
[09:51:00] | eric_: | mainly the bass |
[09:56:00] | laga: | eric_: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
[09:56:00] | eric_: | hehe, cute |
[09:57:00] | eric_: | just wondering if this is a common issue |
[09:58:00] | laga: | yes and no. |
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[10:11:00] | ruiner: | my picture quality is pretty low on my tv card, noticeably lower than when i had the same card running under windows....is there any way to make adjustments that would improve it? |
[10:13:00] | fryfrog: | christ, NGE is omgwtfbbq :/ |
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[10:15:00] | laga: | fryfrog: bbq? |
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[10:20:00] | fryfrog: | close... omgwtfbbq |
[10:20:00] | fryfrog: | Lappy 486 is in IL! |
[10:20:00] | laga: | fryfrog: good crack, huh? |
[10:22:00] | fryfrog: | no no, its "Neon Genisis Evangelion" that is on crack, "omgwtfbbq" is the only phrase i could think of to imply it :) |
[10:22:00] | laga: | hehe |
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[10:23:00] | CellarDoor: | hello all, I'm thinking of getting a Hauppauge WinTV-Express PCI TV Tuner for my kubuntu system... just wanting to hear from anyone who might be using it etc... is it ok ? any problems ? |
[10:23:00] | laga: | CellarDoor: i don't know about this card, but in general, a pvr 250/150/500 is your bst bet if you can afford it |
[10:24:00] | CellarDoor: | hmm ok |
[10:24:00] | CellarDoor: | couldn't point me to a url ? |
[10:24:00] | CellarDoor: | thanks in advance |
[10:25:00] | fryfrog: | google.com |
[10:25:00] | CellarDoor: | are they all Hauppauge ? |
[10:25:00] | fryfrog: | yes |
[10:25:00] | CellarDoor: | ok np |
[10:25:00] | CellarDoor: | thanks |
[10:25:00] | ** CellarDoor gets googling ** | |
[10:27:00] | laga: | www.hauppauge.com |
[10:27:00] | laga: | you can get the drivers at http://ivtv.sf.net may be a good first read |
[10:31:00] | CellarDoor: | ok thanks |
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[10:42:00] | Skaface: | i need help with setting up a joystick |
[10:42:00] | Skaface: | just in linux, not mythtv related |
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[14:46:00] | Shred00: | anyone know how i can create a new transcoder to transcode _from_ mjpeg? |
[14:48:00] | Icks: | did you look in mythtvsetup? |
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[14:50:00] | laga: | mythtv-setup doesn't have transcoding profiles |
[14:51:00] | Icks: | looks like it's under recording profiles > transcoders in mythfront end |
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[14:52:00] | Shred00: | Icks: yeah, in the frontend, i went there and I have a number of transcoders, but none From MJPEG. how do i create a new one? |
[14:52:00] | Icks: | so.. utilites/setup > setup > tv settings > recording profiles |
[14:53:00] | Icks: | i have one from mpeg2 in there |
[14:53:00] | Icks: | no idea how or why them get in there.. |
[14:54:00] | Shred00: | Icks: yup. me too. i need to know how to create a new one though. |
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[15:04:00] | Icks: | shredd00: create a new profile group, on the same menu as transcoders |
[15:08:00] | Shred00: | Icks: ok. i set up the card type as MJPEG and the quality and so on, but this is just duplicating my already existing recording profile for Hardware MJPEG Encoders. not sure how creating a new one of these relates to creating a transcoder for it. |
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[15:24:00] | Beirdo: | come ON firefox, you bitch, get the page already! |
[15:24:00] | Icks: | lol |
[15:24:00] | Icks: | it's to slow for you? |
[15:24:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: yeah, insult her, that'll make her work better |
[15:25:00] | Beirdo: | it times out occasionally while loading stuff |
[15:25:00] | Beirdo: | just a PITA |
[15:25:00] | Beirdo: | booooooo! |
[15:25:00] | Beirdo: | I hate the USA once again |
[15:26:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: neener neener neener |
[15:26:00] | Beirdo: | to get licensed as an engineer, you have to have gone to a US school, or they need to do extra work to accredit you |
[15:26:00] | Beirdo: | up yours, accredit the Canadian universities that are better known than many of the accredited US ones |
[15:27:00] | ** laga points to maniacxs ** | |
[15:27:00] | Icks: | it's prolly a law from when the US had good schools ) |
[15:27:00] | laga: | he's written a nice script that gets you your best-rated songs out of the mythmusic database and puts them on your mp3 portable. or any other directory, for that matter. |
[15:28:00] | Beirdo: | the US still does have good schools |
[15:28:00] | Beirdo: | MIT, Stanford, Berkeley... |
[15:28:00] | Beirdo: | all still good |
[15:28:00] | Beirdo: | but University of BFN isn't necessarily good |
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[16:01:00] | KaZeR: | what's the difference between theses two cards? |
[16:01:00] | KaZeR: | http://www.priceminister.com/offer/buy/325009 . . . aphique.html |
[16:01:00] | KaZeR: | http://www.priceminister.com/offer/buy/258876 . . . aphique.html |
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[16:21:00] | Icks: | man them video's are funny |
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[16:46:00] | Beirdo: | blech. |
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[16:46:00] | sphing: | ? |
[16:46:00] | Beirdo: | mornings suck |
[16:47:00] | Beirdo: | especially when you get to work extra late and realize you will have to STAY extra late as a result |
[16:47:00] | DarkBeer_: | true, monday-friday anyhow |
[16:48:00] | Beirdo: | or any other day you gotta work :) |
[16:48:00] | Beirdo: | thankfully, M-F for me |
[16:49:00] | DarkBeer_: | same. saturday mornings rule! |
[16:49:00] | Beirdo: | nah |
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[16:50:00] | Beirdo: | saturdays around noon rule |
[16:50:00] | DarkBeer_: | football! |
[16:51:00] | Beirdo: | ewwww |
[16:51:00] | Beirdo: | sleep! |
[16:51:00] | Beirdo: | far more important than football |
[16:51:00] | Icks: | sleep is good |
[16:52:00] | DarkBeer_: | hah, 2 kids won't let us sleep until noon. plus, you don't need that much sleep when you're an old fart. I suppose if I could stay up till 4 in the morning I might be able to sleep till noon |
[16:52:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[16:53:00] | ** Beirdo can't sleep much past 8am any day of the week now ** | |
[16:53:00] | Beirdo: | turning into an old fart |
[16:53:00] | Beirdo: | you still need lots of sleep |
[16:53:00] | Beirdo: | but you pass out at 10 |
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[16:54:00] | Icks: | i'm usually up by 7 but i get to bed early most of the time |
[17:00:00] | sphing: | lol @ Beirdo ... my dad sleeps at like 9:30 |
[17:00:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, mine at 10 at the latest |
[17:01:00] | Beirdo: | and now I go to bed around 11 most days |
[17:01:00] | Beirdo: | getting old |
[17:02:00] | Beirdo: | muhahahah |
[17:02:00] | ** Beirdo is wearing an Ottawa Senators jersey. in downtown Toronto ** | |
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[17:03:00] | sphing: | working in a hockey jersey.... nice |
[17:03:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
[17:03:00] | Beirdo: | of a rival team too |
[17:03:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[17:03:00] | ** Beirdo ain't a Toronto Maple Leafs fan ** | |
[17:05:00] | Beirdo: | which is fun living 2 blocks from where they play |
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[17:07:00] | sphing: | lol |
[17:07:00] | sphing: | impressive |
[17:07:00] | Beirdo: | Oh fun |
[17:08:00] | Beirdo: | season opener's tomorrow |
[17:08:00] | Beirdo: | and... Ottawa vs Toronto. in Toronto |
[17:08:00] | Beirdo: | I missed by one day |
[17:08:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
[17:08:00] | epoch: | whoa nice |
[17:08:00] | Beirdo: | that's cool |
[17:09:00] | Beirdo: | I'll have to taunt them a second time |
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[17:14:00] | Beirdo: | so I guess I should see how crappy my current recording profiles are for hockey |
[17:15:00] | epoch: | heh |
[17:19:00] | Beirdo: | oh WOW |
[17:19:00] | Beirdo: | I just found a conflict |
[17:19:00] | Beirdo: | with 3 tuners |
[17:20:00] | Icks: | haha |
[17:20:00] | jhoke: | time to get that new 500 :) |
[17:20:00] | Beirdo: | Boston Legal, Gilmore Girls, Law & Order SVU, Simpsons |
[17:20:00] | jhoke: | ... or a slew of 500's ;) |
[17:21:00] | sphing: | I have a program that record new episodes only and its recording a rerun... |
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[17:21:00] | sphing: | the program details has original airdate: 9/27/2005 |
[17:21:00] | jhoke: | my only conflicts with three cards is on Sunday... getting all the political shows ... |
[17:21:00] | jhoke: | is the episode "new" to mythtv? |
[17:22:00] | sphing: | apparently... |
[17:22:00] | jhoke: | Beirdo: I bit the bullet and intalled kubuntu ... giving it a trial run |
[17:22:00] | jhoke: | sphing: so it is a "new" show ... IIRC "New" means new to Myth, not original airdate only |
[17:22:00] | Beirdo: | cool |
[17:23:00] | sphing: | jhoke: ahh that explains it... apparently OXYGEN reruns 2 week old ellen shows, so it after 2 weeks it will clear out? |
[17:23:00] | jhoke: | Beirdo: so far my biggest peeve is that in order to install firefox I must upgrade to gcc4 (if i do so with apt) ... so .. no firefox on that box ;) |
[17:23:00] | Beirdo: | ?? |
[17:23:00] | Beirdo: | I didn't have to |
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[17:23:00] | Beirdo: | but I don't do kde |
[17:24:00] | jhoke: | Beird ... true ... |
[17:24:00] | jhoke: | I prefer kde right now for boxes that my wife will touch :) |
[17:24:00] | jhoke: | for the rest... init 3 where appropriate |
[17:24:00] | Beirdo: | time to drop priority on the Simpsons |
[17:24:00] | jhoke: | Doh! |
[17:25:00] | Beirdo: | it's all frigging reruns anyways |
[17:25:00] | jhoke: | sphing: probably... although it may try to record them ... not sure how that filter works really ;) |
[17:26:00] | Beirdo: | ah hell |
[17:26:00] | Beirdo: | another conflict tomorrow |
[17:26:00] | sphing: | Beirdo: welcome to my world with a single 250 |
[17:26:00] | Beirdo: | E-Ring, Everwood, NHL season opener, This Is Wonderland |
[17:26:00] | sphing: | E-Ring reruns |
[17:26:00] | Beirdo: | damn you, stop scheduling all the shit at the same time |
[17:26:00] | Beirdo: | not a rerun |
[17:27:00] | Icks: | you must record alot of shows, i had 3 tuners for about 9 months and never seen a conflict |
[17:27:00] | Beirdo: | however, This Is Wonderland is a rerun |
[17:27:00] | Icks: | or one that didn't fix it's self.. |
[17:27:00] | Beirdo: | -1 priority it is |
[17:27:00] | sphing: | I meant i think it reruns on saturday nights |
[17:28:00] | sphing: | the pilot did... |
[17:28:00] | Beirdo: | ah |
[17:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | wooo, 4 more days of TV recorded : Total: 2080.6 hours (86.6916666666667 days) wasted |
[17:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | That is so sad |
[17:28:00] | Beirdo: | not here, I don't think |
[17:29:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: how'd you see that? |
[17:29:00] | jhoke: | lol |
[17:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: I wrote a little perl script to grab the info from the databas |
[17:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | e |
[17:29:00] | ** jhoke hands GreyFoxx a gift certificate redeemable for ONE life... expires at termination ** | |
[17:30:00] | sphing: | hahah |
[17:30:00] | jhoke: | :) |
[17:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/toomuchtv.txt |
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[17:30:00] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx: I still need to fix my database to get accurate results :) |
[17:30:00] | Beirdo: | but I'm sure I've recorded way way more |
[17:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | I really should pad the 0's and trim after the decimal place |
[17:32:00] | Beirdo: | GUH! |
[17:32:00] | Beirdo: | a 5-way conflict! |
[17:32:00] | Beirdo: | I hate this time of year for recording shit |
[17:32:00] | ** GreyFoxx transfers his new get a life certificate to Beirdo ** | |
[17:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
[17:33:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[17:33:00] | Beirdo: | NHL, CSI: NY, Law & Order, The Shield, Simpsons |
[17:33:00] | Beirdo: | buggers |
[17:33:00] | Beirdo: | all new episodes but the Simpsons |
[17:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | 3 of those I watch, 1 rarely, 1 I sometimes record, 1 religously, |
[17:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | the other 2 = no, and hell no |
[17:34:00] | Beirdo: | NHL is no? |
[17:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | hell no |
[17:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sheild is no |
[17:34:00] | Beirdo: | it's Toronto/Ottawa season opener |
[17:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | I enjoyed a year with none of that on TV :) |
[17:35:00] | ** Beirdo is wearing an Ottawa jersey at work ** | |
[17:35:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
[17:35:00] | Beirdo: | in Toronto |
[17:35:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
[17:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm really not interested in any televised sports. Playing is cool, but watching on a tv = never |
[17:35:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
[17:35:00] | Beirdo: | I want to see Toronto get their asses kicked to start the season right |
[17:36:00] | jhoke: | lol |
[17:36:00] | jhoke: | feh... |
[17:36:00] | Beirdo: | and by my fave team too |
[17:36:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[17:36:00] | Beirdo: | I love being an asshole during hockey season. |
[17:36:00] | Beirdo: | I must be Canadian :) |
[17:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | I like being one all year around |
[17:36:00] | jhoke: | Beirdo: did you compile libiec from source, or were you able to find an apt repository with it? |
[17:36:00] | Beirdo: | Ummm, dunno that I ever installed it |
[17:37:00] | jhoke: | k |
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[17:37:00] | Beirdo: | and once again, not using myth on the ubuntu box yet :) |
[17:37:00] | jhoke: | thats riught... sorry ... keep forgeting ;) |
[17:37:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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[17:37:00] | Beirdo: | no prob |
[17:37:00] | jhoke: | bbiab... off to find the source |
[17:37:00] | ** Beirdo continues to fix conflicts ** | |
[17:38:00] | Beirdo: | I record next to nothing all summer, now endless conflicts |
[17:38:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
[17:38:00] | sphing: | you caught up on all your seasons during the summer |
[17:38:00] | Beirdo: | pretty much |
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[17:39:00] | Beirdo: | and the Simpsons are conflicting at least once a day now |
[17:39:00] | Beirdo: | but they are always on, and those are reruns, I don't care |
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[17:45:00] | sphing: | ugh how can i turn off the monitor standy |
[17:45:00] | sphing: | is it an xorg thing or a window manager |
[17:46:00] | Beirdo: | xset -dpms s off |
[17:46:00] | Beirdo: | will shut off screensavers and the monitor standby |
[17:47:00] | sphing: | where do i do that in the xorg.conf |
[17:47:00] | sphing: | *how |
[17:47:00] | Beirdo: | no |
[17:47:00] | Beirdo: | it's a command |
[17:47:00] | sphing: | yes i know its a command |
[17:47:00] | sphing: | but i dont want to do that everytime i boot |
[17:47:00] | Beirdo: | run it in .xinitrc or .Xsession |
[17:47:00] | sphing: | ok |
[17:47:00] | Beirdo: | or just by hand |
[17:47:00] | sphing: | ... for an xbox... |
[17:47:00] | Beirdo: | I dunno |
[17:48:00] | sphing: | just saying why i didnt want to it by hand |
[17:48:00] | Beirdo: | ah |
[17:48:00] | Beirdo: | wuss :) |
[17:50:00] | sphing: | i need to fireup synergy everytime |
[17:52:00] | Beirdo: | ssh doesn't work? |
[17:54:00] | sphing: | yea it does... but when i need to type things into the console |
[17:54:00] | sphing: | xset gives me "cannot open display" over ssh |
[17:54:00] | Beirdo: | there are ways around that |
[17:54:00] | Beirdo: | but anyways, I'm going for lunch |
[17:54:00] | sphing: | no biggie... i just synergize myself |
[17:55:00] | sphing: | ttyl |
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[18:33:00] | jhoke: | bah |
[18:34:00] | Beirdo: | humbug |
[18:34:00] | laga: | schlamassal |
[18:34:00] | jhoke: | xris, what exactly do you loose wiht nuvexport on a gcc4 based box again? (sorry...long night ... havent slept yet) |
[18:35:00] | jhoke: | Hossenfeffer Incorporated (spell?) |
[18:37:00] | xris: | jhoke: huh? |
[18:37:00] | xris: | do you mean specifically for mpeg2cut? it just doesn't work. |
[18:37:00] | xris: | I don't use it. |
[18:38:00] | ** xris pokes Beirdo to remind him about fixing mpeg2cut ** | |
[18:38:00] | ** Beirdo yawns ** | |
[18:38:00] | Beirdo: | what? |
[18:38:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[18:38:00] | xris: | your big project to make a real mpeg2cut. heh. |
[18:39:00] | xris: | the one that your love life got in the way of. |
[18:39:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[18:39:00] | Beirdo: | yeah yeah |
[18:39:00] | Beirdo: | I'll get back to it eventually |
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[18:40:00] | Beirdo: | right now we are starting to house-shop |
[18:40:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
[18:40:00] | xris: | sounds fun |
[18:40:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
[18:41:00] | ** xris takes some funky chinese herb pills to save him from kormoc's illness. ** | |
[18:41:00] | Beirdo: | smoke some herb? |
[18:41:00] | xris: | no. pills |
[18:41:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[18:41:00] | xris: | yin qiao pian |
[18:41:00] | Beirdo: | I'm just joking |
[18:41:00] | xris: | they're "take them and you won't get sick" pills |
[18:41:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
[18:41:00] | rjune: | no kidding |
[18:42:00] | Beirdo: | they are "take them and something else funky will break 6 months from now" pills |
[18:42:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
[18:42:00] | xris: | seem to work pretty well as long as you take them before you've caught whatever it is. |
[18:42:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, echinacea's a similar concept |
[18:42:00] | xris: | echinecea works while you're sick, too. |
[18:42:00] | xris: | sort of |
[18:42:00] | Beirdo: | herbal shit can work |
[18:42:00] | Beirdo: | it helps while sick |
[18:43:00] | Beirdo: | but it's most effective if taken just before |
[18:43:00] | xris: | for while I'm sick, there's lo han quo, and it works WAY WAY better than any western herbs I've taken. |
[18:43:00] | Beirdo: | I'll just be sick :) |
[18:43:00] | Beirdo: | I try to take NOTHING :) |
[18:43:00] | ** laga thinks that stopping smoking when being sick would help him a lot ** | |
[18:43:00] | laga: | darn colds |
[18:44:00] | rjune: | laga: yeah, that's prolly not a bad idea |
[18:44:00] | ** laga lights a cuban one ** | |
[18:44:00] | rjune: | xris: what is lo han quo? |
[18:44:00] | Beirdo: | s/when being sick// |
[18:44:00] | Beirdo: | but that's a start at least |
[18:44:00] | laga: | Beirdo: you're no fun. ;) |
[18:45:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: bah, there is nothing on this earth that will hurt you in moderation |
[18:45:00] | xris: | rjune: it's some kind of fruit or something that grows in china.. contains a chemical 300x sweeter than sugar but with no insulin response, etc. |
[18:45:00] | Beirdo: | rjune: tell that to a heroin or crack addict. nice try |
[18:45:00] | rjune: | xris: so it passes through? |
[18:45:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: that's not moderation |
[18:46:00] | Beirdo: | sure it is |
[18:46:00] | xris: | they mix it into sugar cubes that you can make a "tea" out of.. it's the best cure for a sore throat I've ever used.. good for colds/congestion, too. |
[18:46:00] | Beirdo: | one tiny bit and you are screwed |
[18:46:00] | xris: | for long-term, it's a liver tonic and good for digestive problems. |
[18:46:00] | xris: | maybe liver/kidney... general detox |
[18:46:00] | Beirdo: | make up for the booze |
[18:46:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[18:46:00] | rjune: | xris: damn hippy. :-) |
[18:47:00] | Beirdo: | hey, leave the happy hippie alone |
[18:47:00] | xris: | rjune: not anymore now that I cut off my pony tail. :P |
[18:47:00] | rjune: | xris: NOOOO |
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[18:47:00] | rjune: | I've got long hair, not a hippy though |
[18:47:00] | ** xris is kind of a hippy ** | |
[18:47:00] | Beirdo: | xris: but that's OK |
[18:47:00] | rjune: | we love you anyway |
[18:47:00] | xris: | I like hippy things... don't really dress the part, though. heh. |
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[18:48:00] | rjune: | that's 'cause hippies are so damn bizzare |
[18:50:00] | xris: | heh |
[18:50:00] | rjune: | they smell funny too |
[18:50:00] | xris: | anyway, lo han is good stuff. I should go drink some, too. |
[18:50:00] | Beirdo: | spiced rum is good stuff |
[18:50:00] | Beirdo: | I should go drink some |
[18:51:00] | laga: | beer is the best |
[18:51:00] | Beirdo: | nah |
[18:51:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: here here! |
[18:51:00] | laga: | i should get intoxicated |
[18:51:00] | rjune: | though I lean towards beer too |
[18:51:00] | Beirdo: | beer is too wussie, and makes me piss way too much |
[18:51:00] | xris: | makes me sleepy |
[18:51:00] | xris: | mead, port, rum.... |
[18:51:00] | Beirdo: | if I'm drinking, I wanna get drunk and not have to move |
[18:52:00] | laga: | Beirdo: two words: stadium pal. |
[18:52:00] | Beirdo: | a pint of rum rather than a 12-pack of crappy beer |
[18:52:00] | laga: | your fault when you drink crappy beer ;) |
[18:52:00] | rjune: | no kidding |
[18:52:00] | DarkBeer_: | brew your own :) |
[18:53:00] | maniacxs: | laga: Andechs is good beer |
[18:53:00] | laga: | maniacxs: andechser doppelbock knocked me out after the second one and gave me a huge headache. |
[18:53:00] | Icks: | the buzz from beer is much better.. |
[18:54:00] | rjune: | maniacxs: where is that from? |
[18:54:00] | rjune: | DarkBeer_: I want to get into that. that could be delicious |
[18:54:00] | xris: | I like this whole remote desktop thing for windows. |
[18:54:00] | laga: | rjune: some friends of mine brewed their own beer, it was quite tasty. |
[18:54:00] | rjune: | xris: you mean the one like vnc for linux and windows? |
[18:54:00] | maniacxs: | rjune: it's a german beer It is porduces in the Andechs 'Kloster' |
[18:54:00] | DarkBeer_: | rjune, it's fun. I haven't brewed in almost 2 years now (built a new house), but it's about time to fix that issue |
[18:54:00] | rjune: | maniacxs: bummer, prolly kinda difficult to get here |
[18:55:00] | maniacxs: | maybe |
[18:55:00] | maniacxs: | i personally do not drink alcohol, but my girlfriend likes it much. |
[18:55:00] | xris: | rjune: like vnc but about a billion times faster, yes |
[18:55:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
[18:55:00] | Beirdo: | maniacxs: that could lead to interesting consequences |
[18:55:00] | rjune: | no kidding |
[18:56:00] | laga: | maniacxs: is that how you met her? |
[18:56:00] | rjune: | my wife drinks way more than me to |
[18:56:00] | Beirdo: | hell, even if you make your own beer, you still need to visit the throne all the time |
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[18:56:00] | ** xris kicks IE ** | |
[18:57:00] | maniacxs: | i met her at a private party... :) |
[18:57:00] | Beirdo: | and she was drunk... |
[18:57:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: but so was he, it was a rare occasion |
[18:58:00] | maniacxs: | on www.andechs.de is a online shop, but it is currently not availible. |
[18:59:00] | maniacxs: | laga: you mean this one http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/911/2899/ |
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[19:00:00] | laga: | maniacxs: right. well, it was early in the morning ;) |
[19:00:00] | maniacxs: | Beirdo: i would say she is able to drink a lot :) |
[19:00:00] | laga: | so am i, but it tends to make me throw up ;) |
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[19:01:00] | Beirdo: | I can usually drink about 1L of 40% stuff before wanting to stop |
[19:01:00] | Beirdo: | not a good plan of course |
[19:02:00] | Beirdo: | mind you, I'm not exactly small |
[19:02:00] | laga: | right |
[19:04:00] | xris: | Beirdo: is that before or after you lost 80 lbs or so? |
[19:05:00] | jhoke: | sorry... back... |
[19:05:00] | jhoke: | bah... I can get most of myth setup on kubuntu, except firewire... |
[19:07:00] | jhoke: | (so far...) I may just have to say screw it and install on something else for this amd64 box...gcc4 based and just lose the mpeg2cut functionality of nuvexport ... |
[19:07:00] | ** xris wishes his dishnetwork box had firewire ** | |
[19:07:00] | laga: | jhoke: are you running a stable release of mythtv? |
[19:07:00] | jhoke: | laga: of course not ;) |
[19:07:00] | jhoke: | stability? Why would I want any stability in my life... unused to the idea LOL |
[19:08:00] | jhoke: | laga: why, is there a new function that I am missing? |
[19:08:00] | laga: | jhoke: SVN? good. you might like mythtranscode --mpeg2, or take a look at #158 in trac |
[19:08:00] | xris: | anyone happen to have a link to that site that lists all of the FTA satellites and where they are? |
[19:08:00] | jhoke: | pulling it up now ;) |
[19:08:00] | xris: | laga: did someone actually get lossless mpeg2 stuff fixed? |
[19:09:00] | laga: | xris: i think so. might want to take a look at #158, i haven't got it fully working yet (i'm bitching in #406) |
[19:09:00] | xris: | Beirdo: how hard would it be to modify MythLogBot to respond with a trac URL whenever someone pastes something like that #158? |
[19:09:00] | laga: | xris: that would be awesome. |
[19:09:00] | jhoke: | laga: interesting :) |
[19:10:00] | xris: | laga: yeah, that would rock (whichever you're talking about) |
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[19:10:00] | laga: | xris: the mythlogbot modification |
[19:12:00] | jhoke: | laga: I am going to have to give this a run and see if it works ;) |
[19:12:00] | laga: | jhoke: hehe ;) |
[19:13:00] | xris: | my mug says it's now half-empty... |
[19:13:00] | jhoke: | xris: that would be a good feature for the bot ... !<ticketnumber> |
[19:14:00] | xris: | jhoke: yeah. and changeset numbers, and wiki entries.. well, once the wiki moves to mythtv.org |
[19:15:00] | jhoke: | xris: what is actually holding up the wiki move... seems to be going on forever and a week |
[19:15:00] | xris: | no clue. |
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[19:22:00] | jhoke: | balls... I used mythrename.pl on my files, and mythtranscode cant deal with them that way ... need to specify times and channels... |
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[19:23:00] | laga: | jhoke: hehe |
[19:23:00] | jhoke: | laga: do you know the format for the starttime param? |
[19:23:00] | laga: | jhoke: nope, sorry |
[19:24:00] | jhoke: | heh ... worth a shot... gonna go poke in the DB |
[19:24:00] | laga: | hehe |
[19:27:00] | jhoke: | blah — QTime::fromString: Parameter out of range |
[19:27:00] | jhoke: | got it... |
[19:28:00] | jhoke: | year-month-dayThh:mm:ss |
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[19:35:00] | jhoke: | well, it almost worked... video cut is great... no audio tho... I probably borked the commandline ...bbiab |
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[19:51:00] | sphing: | does anyone record The Daily Show |
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[19:53:00] | orb_rox: | sphing: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine?list=mythtv |
[19:53:00] | sphing: | what about it |
[19:53:00] | sphing: | you're good you |
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[20:01:00] | fir3st0rm: | hi |
[20:02:00] | sphing: | hi |
[20:06:00] | fir3st0rm: | what visualizer do i have to set to show the album art? |
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[20:15:00] | fir3st0rm: | i've set it to cover but i only get a blank screen |
[20:27:00] | fir3st0rm: | when i change visualization to random there sometimes appear the conver art but if i set it to "cover" it shows a blank box :/ |
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[20:29:00] | prodigy7: | is here someone where have mythtv running inside xen ? |
[20:29:00] | prodigy7: | oh, i forgot: Hi ! :-) |
[20:37:00] | DonLKSAB: | So lets try here |
[20:37:00] | DonLKSAB: | I have a small problem with mplayer |
[20:37:00] | DonLKSAB: | When i play files it "jumps". But Xine works fine |
[20:38:00] | DonLKSAB: | Any idea what could make mplyer jump? |
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[20:41:00] | The_Tick: | so basically if I get mythdvd going, it'll rip dvds into the database and I can navigate from there right? |
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[20:55:00] | jhoke: | re's |
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[20:57:00] | Mauriez: | anyone here with xebian/mythtv experience? |
[20:57:00] | jhoke: | so... the only differences between the PVR500 and PVR500MCE is one has a remote and the otehr an FMTuner? |
[20:58:00] | jhoke: | Muariez, not I ... sorry |
[20:58:00] | Mauriez: | ok.. no worries |
[20:59:00] | Mauriez: | the channel is not so active eh? |
[20:59:00] | Mauriez: | lotsa idle ppls |
[20:59:00] | jhoke: | it ebbs and flows :) |
[21:00:00] | Mauriez: | :-) |
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[21:04:00] | Icks: | i did xebian/mythtv about 3? years ago mauriez |
[21:06:00] | Mauriez: | ah.. hmm.. well.. i think its a recent problem.. i found a great howto, but in the last stages it sort a fails on me with dependencies |
[21:07:00] | Mauriez: | let me look the wiki :-) |
[21:07:00] | Icks: | you are using the right verision of xebian? |
[21:07:00] | Mauriez: | yeah 1.1.0 |
[21:07:00] | Mauriez: | but.. maybe it has to do with the marillat site |
[21:08:00] | Mauriez: | ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists unstable is told everywhere |
[21:08:00] | Mauriez: | but there is no such directory anymore |
[21:08:00] | Mauriez: | then my apt-get fails |
[21:09:00] | Icks: | ahh, can't help you there.. |
[21:09:00] | Mauriez: | unstable is sid |
[21:09:00] | Mauriez: | ill try that :-) |
[21:10:00] | Mauriez: | thanks anywayz :-) |
[21:14:00] | Mauriez: | ah.. changing unstable to sid in /etc/apt/sources.list helped! i can continue my install! :-) |
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[21:38:00] | toresbe: | Hey guys |
[21:39:00] | toresbe: | I have a problem, when I click Watch TV, I get a bad picture, but more problematically, I get a looping sound |
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[21:39:00] | toresbe: | it's looping back and being amplified |
[21:39:00] | toresbe: | Is this a known problem or a common PEBCAK? |
[21:39:00] | Icks: | that used to happen to me when i used a bttv card |
[21:40:00] | Icks: | need to mute one of your sound channels maybe |
[21:41:00] | toresbe: | hmm, yeah |
[21:42:00] | toresbe: | that fixed it |
[21:42:00] | toresbe: | how do I switch channels, and adjust the picture? |
[21:43:00] | Icks: | hrmm, push up arrow to change channels? |
[21:43:00] | Icks: | or look at the guids and do it.. |
[21:43:00] | Icks: | guide |
[21:43:00] | Icks: | push m to get a menu if you want to look at guidee |
[21:44:00] | Icks: | i think all that stuff is on mythtv.org |
[21:45:00] | toresbe: | oh, thanks |
[21:45:00] | toresbe: | yeah |
[21:48:00] | simon_c: | Is there a way to change the default group view when looking at the list of recordings ? |
[21:49:00] | toresbe: | I think something went wrong in the channel presetting |
[21:49:00] | simon_c: | IIRC, I had to manually tune my channels. :-( |
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[21:51:00] | MrRagga: | hi, mythbackend will not start, no errors, nothing in log files ;( |
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[22:15:00] | toresbe: | Hmm |
[22:15:00] | toresbe: | Does grounding the machine often improve picture quality? |
[22:16:00] | toresbe: | I'm getting qutie a bit of interference :\ |
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[22:24:00] | Icks: | it should already be grounded from the power cord.. |
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[22:41:00] | maniacxs: | toresbe are you using dvb? |
[22:42:00] | toresbe: | maniacxs: I'm using a cx88 |
[22:42:00] | toresbe: | Icks: It's not |
[22:42:00] | toresbe: | Icks: the cord is nongrounded |
[22:42:00] | toresbe: | maniacxs: So standard PAL video |
[22:42:00] | maniacxs: | i had here a problem with grounding even it was grounded through the outlet, ... |
[22:42:00] | maniacxs: | using dvb-s |
[22:43:00] | maniacxs: | when i tried to szap i had the problem i was loosing the LOCK sometimes |
[22:44:00] | maniacxs: | i changed the multiple socket and it worked. i atteched all hw connected to the pc to one multiple socket. |
[22:44:00] | maniacxs: | is this like your problem toresbe? |
[22:45:00] | toresbe: | no, just random shaky signal |
[22:45:00] | toresbe: | Not DVB |
[22:46:00] | maniacxs: | maybe it is the same ... |
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[22:46:00] | maniacxs: | is every hw connected to computer connected to one multiple socket? |
[22:47:00] | toresbe: | nope |
[22:47:00] | toresbe: | and the two multiple sox aren't even grounded |
[22:47:00] | toresbe: | so... |
[22:48:00] | maniacxs: | then you should take grounded ones. |
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[22:49:00] | maniacxs: | toresbe: try to connect all components with own power supply (conected to computer) to one socket |
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[23:29:00] | DarkBeer_: | any recommendations on a joystick for use with mythgame? never had a joystick for use with Linux before, so any suggestions appreciated. |
[23:29:00] | SiCu: | Howdy :o |
[23:30:00] | fir3st0rm: | hi ^^ |
[23:30:00] | SiCu: | fir3st0rm: Do you get a bad picture with the tv-out? :/ |
[23:30:00] | SiCu: | I've finally got it to show colours etc. But the screen get bent on the right side as soon as I start a video app (vlc, xine etc). |
[23:30:00] | fir3st0rm: | i'm not using the onboard graphics |
[23:31:00] | SiCu: | bugger. |
[23:31:00] | SiCu: | I need a proper xorg.conf me think :o |
[23:32:00] | fir3st0rm: | the onboard chip is a geforce2/mx400 right? |
[23:33:00] | SiCu: | Yeah :) |
[23:33:00] | SiCu: | Tried both s-video and composite, no win. |
[23:33:00] | fir3st0rm: | shouldn't be too hard to find working drivers for this card i guess |
[23:34:00] | SiCu: | well, they work. Question is how to improve quality. |
[23:36:00] | toresbe: | Anyone here from Norway? |
[23:36:00] | toresbe: | I need a channel config file here... |
[23:37:00] | toresbe: | tvtime works, but mythtv won't search files |
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