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| [00:02:00] | Icks: | just need to leave mythbackend runnning ehaase |
| [00:02:00] | Icks: | the front end don't matter |
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| [00:11:00] | ehaase: | ok, thanks! |
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| [00:11:00] | fir3st0rm: | hi |
| [00:12:00] | fir3st0rm: | someone here using a tvcard with philips saa7134? |
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| [00:55:00] | jhoke: | heyas |
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| [00:57:00] | jhoke: | are there any documents on the new functionality in SVN (other than the dev list)? |
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| [01:00:00] | grobnica_mladost: | somebody compiled myth ? |
| [01:00:00] | jhoke: | yep |
| [01:00:00] | jhoke: | was bored :) |
| [01:00:00] | grobnica_mladost: | is it work ? |
| [01:01:00] | jhoke: | quite well actually |
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| [01:01:00] | kormoc: | jhoke, could look at the trac logs |
| [01:01:00] | jhoke: | I am having some issues with mythmusic crashing the front end, but otherwise all is good |
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| [01:01:00] | jhoke: | kormoc: thanks! I wanted to see what some of the new configuration settings are for/do |
| [01:01:00] | DarkBeer: | jhoke: does it crash when you select import cd? |
| [01:02:00] | jhoke: | DarkBeer: No (I have not done that yet) but if I click "Next Song" on my remote 5 or 6 times |
| [01:03:00] | grobnica_mladost: | jhoke thanks a lot |
| [01:03:00] | jhoke: | if I can reproduce it regularly I will try and submit a bug report... happened twice with different songs/positions in the playlist... but it may be something on my end |
| [01:03:00] | DarkBeer: | mine would crash the front end when selecting import cd. updated libcdaudio and the problem went away |
| [01:05:00] | jhoke: | DarkBeer: I just reinstalled libcdaudio today, so I hope that I dont get hit with that one :) I will test it this weekend when I rip some more CDs ... I usually use my iMac and iTunes for that though (and share the music to myth via rsync to the mythbox ... added benefit of a backup of my 100+gb mp3 library) |
| [01:05:00] | jhoke: | another thing ... the size of my library may be too big for mythmusic (?) |
| [01:06:00] | DarkBeer: | heh, no idea. i've only imported 5 cds thus far |
| [01:06:00] | DarkBeer: | I did a FC4 install with Jarod's howto about a month ago, and last night used yum to update libcdaudio and it fixed my problem |
| [01:07:00] | jhoke: | I used to DJ and over the past 5 or so years have imported over 20 -25k songs ... which is why I back 'em up... the hell of re-ripping would not be fun |
| [01:07:00] | jhoke: | I used his howto as well, but uninstalled all the rpms for myth today and installed via source... was a good experience actually |
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| [01:09:00] | jhoke: | I am ripping a dvd right now or I would restart the FE from the command line and see if I can crash it again... will have to wait until after I help lil one with her homework and get some dinner |
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| [01:12:00] | Flimzy: | Okay, I now have a digital reciever with 2 tuners... and still have an analog receiver. Is it possible to make MythTV aware of the fact that the analog channels are duplicated on all 3 tuners, so that I don't end up in a situation where it's recording two instances of a program? |
| [01:13:00] | Flimzy: | or is that somehow automagical? |
| [01:13:00] | kormoc: | it should do that automagical |
| [01:13:00] | Flimzy: | I guess if nothing else, it would only record one show with the same title/description anyway, right? |
| [01:13:00] | kormoc: | as long as the backends are networked together (if there's more then one) it'll work fine |
| [01:14:00] | Flimzy: | all one backend (at this point) |
| [01:14:00] | kormoc: | then yeah, it can't not know |
| [01:14:00] | Flimzy: | So then my next question would be.. Suppose I set my digital tuners with a priority of +50 or something, so that a show will be recorded digitally instead of analog, if both options are available... |
| [01:15:00] | Flimzy: | hang on... still thinking the question through |
| [01:15:00] | jhoke: | Flimzy, yep |
| [01:15:00] | Flimzy: | Okay, here's the scenario... I set the dig tuners to +50 |
| [01:16:00] | kormoc: | you set each tuner's order |
| [01:16:00] | Flimzy: | ah |
| [01:16:00] | kormoc: | so anything that can be recorded will record first on the dig |
| [01:16:00] | kormoc: | and then fall over to the others |
| [01:16:00] | Flimzy: | so I don't set a priority on there like I do on channels I "prefer"? |
| [01:16:00] | kormoc: | you do as well |
| [01:16:00] | kormoc: | so it orders the shows |
| [01:16:00] | Flimzy: | Can I set the analog recorder as the first in the order for shows that come in on analog stations only? |
| [01:17:00] | Flimzy: | So I'm not "wasting" my digital tuner on a show that's only available on analog? |
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| [01:17:00] | kormoc: | I think you can set a recording profile's perfered tuner if I'm not mistaken? |
| [01:17:00] | Flimzy: | Okay |
| [01:17:00] | jhoke: | you can set it up however you like... the docs explain it fairly well ... with some trial and error of course :) |
| [01:18:00] | Flimzy: | I'm waiting on mythfilldatabase to download all the new digital channel lineups right now... |
| [01:18:00] | Flimzy: | so I'll start my trial and error in a short time :) |
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| [01:18:00] | jhoke: | the more 'customized' or controlled you want it, the more you will have to configure |
| [01:18:00] | jhoke: | I have 2 analogs, a 150 and 250 ... I have the 150 set up as the 'prefered' card because it is 'cleaner' ... the 250 I use for live tv and if the 150 is already recording... |
| [01:19:00] | Flimzy: | Has anyone here used a Motorola DCT-6200 (or cousin) digital tuner? |
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| [01:19:00] | Flimzy: | I want to set up my digital tuners to be used all the time, *except* when I'm wanting to record 3 shows, and one of them is available on an analog channel |
| [01:20:00] | jhoke: | brb |
| [01:20:00] | sgorilla: | does mythtv support xine? |
| [01:20:00] | Flimzy: | B/c the digital tuner will be less CPU inensive, even for the analog channels (I think) |
| [01:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | sgorilla: What you mean by support it ? |
| [01:20:00] | sgorilla: | what does mythtv use for dvd playback? |
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| [01:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's configurable. You can use mplayer, xine, or the internal player (which is not complete) |
| [01:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | Most tend to use xine |
| [01:22:00] | Flimzy: | When using Xine, does MythTV make any automated attempt to map Xine's control keys to match Myth's? |
| [01:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | Flimzy: No |
| [01:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's up to you |
| [01:22:00] | Flimzy: | but xine can use lirc, I assume? So it could be set up to be seamless, with some effort? |
| [01:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or if you use lirc then you don't gotta worry about it |
| [01:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [01:23:00] | Flimzy: | I haven't gotten lirc working yet |
| [01:23:00] | Flimzy: | I think my IR receiver is defective |
| [01:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | For the brief period I used xine for DVD's I configured the xine keymap. I don't use lirc |
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| [01:24:00] | Flimzy: | Is there a nasty trick to getting transcoding to work on a backend other than the one that originally recorded the program? |
| [01:24:00] | Flimzy: | I have a 3+Ghz AMD64 sitting idle 24/7, when it could be transcoding RTJpeg |
| [01:25:00] | Flimzy: | but can't get remote transcoding to work |
| [01:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | Flimzy: I'm sure you could, I've never done it though |
| [01:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't really transcode any of it. Maybe 5 recordings in the last year :) |
| [01:26:00] | Flimzy: | I'm hoping that with this digital tuner, my transcoding needs will go way down |
| [01:26:00] | Flimzy: | but that's still only MPEG2 for the digital channels |
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| [01:26:00] | Flimzy: | our 100gb partition fills up daily |
| [01:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well the nice thing with DVB recordings is that because the signal is so much cleaner than an analog one the shows take up far l,ess space |
| [01:26:00] | Flimzy: | Remote transcoding is not as easy as the UI would have you believe... |
| [01:27:00] | Flimzy: | it's all set up as it "should be", but mythtranscode always complains that it can't transcode remote files |
| [01:27:00] | Flimzy: | GreyFoxx: I hadn't thought of that. |
| [01:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | for instance a 1 hour recording from my 250's take about 2G, but a 1 hour 50 minute recording from my dvb card takes only 1.7G |
| [01:27:00] | Flimzy: | Altho my analog channels are _still_ broadcast in analog, even tho the receiver is digital capable |
| [01:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | The source is so much cleaner they can transmit with a lower bitrate and still have a good looking image |
| [01:28:00] | simon_c_home: | Hi All. Is there any way to change the default group view on teh front end ? I'd like my "gouplist to be sorted as goups" every time I start the front end. |
| [01:31:00] | jhoke: | yep... seg fault on using "skip" 7 times in a row... like clockwork |
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| [01:32:00] | sgorilla: | anyone here do satellite stuff? |
| [01:32:00] | sgorilla: | like fta |
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| [01:33:00] | Flimzy: | okay, mythfill is done |
| [01:33:00] | jhoke: | feh |
| [01:33:00] | Flimzy: | now I gotta figure out how to test this firewire thingie |
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| [01:41:00] | Flimzy: | Is there some way to scan a ieee1394 bus to see what's attached? |
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| [01:50:00] | Juski: | heads-up for people in the UK: PC World are offerring 512MB PC3200 for about £28 this weekend.. look out for their ads in national newspapers :) |
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| [01:54:00] | simon_c_home: | some times I'm sure it's just best not to bother !! |
| [01:54:00] | simon_c_home: | Hi All. Is there any way to change the default group view on teh front end ? I'd like my "gouplist to be sorted as goups" every time I start the front end. |
| [01:55:00] | simon_c_home: | And also, I seem to have developed a problem tied into the sound lebels. When listing to a recording now, it sounds like the input volume is too high. This is from SCART input into my capture card. Anyone have a clue what I need to turn down to fix that ? It used to be fine a few of days ago. And I don't *thin* I chaned it. |
| [01:56:00] | Flimzy: | Where can I find documentation on how to set up MythTV with firewire? I have it set up in the database to use a Firewire port... But I can't tell that it's actually _doing_ anything... |
| [02:00:00] | simon_c_home: | Humm. Seems to be a bug in mythweb too when setting a manual recording. |
| [02:00:00] | Flimzy: | damn... finding info on using mythtv with firewire is like pulling teeth! |
| [02:00:00] | simon_c_home: | Flimzy: 'frade so. |
| [02:00:00] | simon_c_home: | :-( |
| [02:00:00] | simon_c_home: | sometimes there's ppl here and they've very very helpfull. |
| [02:01:00] | Flimzy: | do you use firewire? |
| [02:01:00] | simon_c_home: | other times, you start to wonder if your IRC client is broken. |
| [02:01:00] | simon_c_home: | Flimzy: No. |
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| [02:02:00] | Flimzy: | I keep seeing reference to a 'test-mpeg2' program... any idea where I would find that? |
| [02:06:00] | Juski: | simon_c_home.. what do you mean by "grouplist to be sorted as groups" ? |
| [02:06:00] | Juski: | what grouplist? |
| [02:09:00] | Juski: | you know... there's a knack to getting questions answered.. and it ain't about making remarks about nobody replying ;) |
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| [02:32:00] | grobnica_mladost: | hello |
| [02:33:00] | grobnica_mladost: | what does this error means : 2005-10–01 02:32:57.094 No error type from QSqlError? Strange... |
| [02:33:00] | grobnica_mladost: | 2005-10–01 02:32:57.095 Unable to connect to database! |
| [02:33:00] | grobnica_mladost: | when I start mythtv |
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| [02:39:00] | briand: | do you have MySQL installed and running? Is the daemon running when you start MythTV? Do you have a 'mythtv' user in MySQL? |
| [02:40:00] | grobnica_mladost: | yes, yes, yes |
| [02:41:00] | grobnica_mladost: | everything runnig and it is installed |
| [02:41:00] | grobnica_mladost: | tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:3306 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 18687/mysqld |
| [02:41:00] | grobnica_mladost: | but |
| [02:42:00] | grobnica_mladost: | I dont know if I have MYTHTV user in MySQL |
| [02:42:00] | grobnica_mladost: | how to set that ? |
| [02:42:00] | briand: | ah, well you would need that. :) |
| [02:42:00] | briand: | there should be a MySQL 'setup' script in your MythTV package. |
| [02:42:00] | briand: | it'll set up the user(s), databases, tables, etc. |
| [02:43:00] | briand: | then, you'll need to run mythfilldatabase to initially fill the schedule, etc. |
| [02:44:00] | briand: | # mysql -u root mysql |
| [02:44:00] | briand: | mysql> UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('ROOT_PWD') WHERE user='root'; |
| [02:44:00] | briand: | mysql> FLUSH PRIVILEGES; |
| [02:44:00] | briand: | mysql> quit |
| [02:44:00] | briand: | replace 'ROOT_PWD' with 'a password you like and/or will remember' |
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| [02:45:00] | briand: | once that is done, you'll need to run a script that comes in your MythTV distribution: |
| [02:45:00] | briand: | $ mysql -u root -p < /usr/share/doc/mythtv-0.18.1/database/mc.sql |
| [02:45:00] | briand: | (enter the password you just set above when prompted) |
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| [02:46:00] | briand: | next step, is to run mythtv-setup ... etc. |
| [02:49:00] | grobnica_mladost: | ok, thanks I am justi following your steps |
| [02:49:00] | grobnica_mladost: | :) |
| [02:51:00] | briand: | no problem. :) |
| [02:52:00] | briand: | not my steps, per se — i copied/pasted from Jarrod's FC3/4 HOWTO pages... |
| [02:52:00] | briand: | ;) |
| [02:52:00] | grobnica_mladost: | ow |
| [02:52:00] | grobnica_mladost: | hehe |
| [02:52:00] | grobnica_mladost: | but I cant find mc.sql |
| [02:52:00] | Flimzy: | Anyone here using firewire w/ myth? |
| [02:54:00] | briand: | hmm. |
| [02:54:00] | briand: | try (as root) typing: find / -name mc.sql -print |
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| [02:55:00] | AppleBoy: | w00t, it is detected right! |
| [02:55:00] | briand: | unless you're also on FC3 (or 4), and installing from the mythtv-suite, it may be somewhere else on your machine. |
| [02:57:00] | grobnica_mladost: | yes, I now |
| [02:58:00] | grobnica_mladost: | I found it |
| [02:58:00] | briand: | great. :) just replace the path/filename with yours in the above command, then. :) |
| [02:58:00] | briand: | pretty straightforward. :) |
| [02:59:00] | grobnica_mladost: | I done that , but nothig, sam thing again :(( |
| [03:00:00] | grobnica_mladost: | same error |
| [03:00:00] | briand: | did you run the mythtv-setup and set up everything? |
| [03:00:00] | grobnica_mladost: | yes, but mythtv-setup exit when I click finish |
| [03:01:00] | grobnica_mladost: | look error (paste you) |
| [03:01:00] | grobnica_mladost: | 2005-10–01 03:01:45.912 No error type from QSqlError? Strange... |
| [03:01:00] | grobnica_mladost: | 2005-10–01 03:01:45.912 Database not open while trying to load setting: Language |
| [03:04:00] | Flimzy: | Blah |
| [03:04:00] | Flimzy: | the Firewire ports appear to be disabled on my DVR |
| [03:04:00] | Flimzy: | and I don't think there's any way for me to enable them |
| [03:06:00] | briand: | grobnica_mladost: fire up mysql (as you did above), but log in using your myth username... once you get to the '>' prompt, type SHOW DATABASES; and hit <enter> |
| [03:09:00] | grobnica_mladost: | but I dont know komands to log in |
| [03:09:00] | briand: | mysql -u mythtv |
| [03:10:00] | briand: | it may prompt you for a password... use the one you configured for your mythtv user account. |
| [03:10:00] | grobnica_mladost: | I get this when I type that : ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: NO) |
| [03:10:00] | briand: | aha! |
| [03:10:00] | briand: | your mythtv user does not have permission to run MySQL... that would be the problem. |
| [03:11:00] | grobnica_mladost: | How to fix that ? |
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| [03:12:00] | briand: | log in as the root user to MySQL [mysql -u root] and type GRANT ALL ON MYTHCONVERGE TO USER MYTHTV; |
| [03:12:00] | briand: | then FLUSH PRIVILEGES; and exit. |
| [03:13:00] | briand: | the mc.sql script _should_ have set up the mythtv user, permissions, etc... |
| [03:14:00] | grobnica_mladost: | mysql> GRANT ALL ON MYTHCONVERGE TO USER MYTHTV; |
| [03:14:00] | grobnica_mladost: | ERROR 1064: You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'MYTHTV'at line 1 |
| [03:14:00] | grobnica_mladost: | What is that sintax error ? |
| [03:15:00] | briand: | it means i tried to give you Oracle DB syntax instead of MySQL syntax, or that it's Friday and I'm tired... |
| [03:15:00] | grobnica_mladost: | jesus :) |
| [03:15:00] | briand: | did you get any errors/output when you ran the mc.sql script?? |
| [03:16:00] | Skif: | I have a pvr500, and I just installed 0.18.1, and ivtv 0.3.8, and now I just get timeouts when trying to watch live tv. |
| [03:16:00] | Skif: | The only thing I can see in dmesg that seems relevant is 'ivtv warning: ENC: REG_DMAXFER 2 wait failed |
| [03:16:00] | Skif: | ' |
| [03:16:00] | Skif: | does that ring a bell with anyone? |
| [03:17:00] | grobnica_mladost: | briand but hot to run that script ?(sorry, I realy dont know that SQL) |
| [03:17:00] | briand: | you said you had located the mc.sql script, yes? |
| [03:17:00] | grobnica_mladost: | yes |
| [03:17:00] | briand: | $ mysql -u root -p < /usr/share/doc/mythtv-0.18.1/database/mc.sql |
| [03:18:00] | Skif: | mythbackend just says "Couldn't read data from the capture card in 15 seconds. |
| [03:18:00] | Skif: | Stopping." |
| [03:18:00] | briand: | that should log into mysql as user 'root' and run the script. |
| [03:18:00] | briand: | you'll need to specify the path that the find statement earlier returned for the full path to *your* mc.sql script |
| [03:19:00] | briand: | Skif: did you run mythtv-setup ?? did you configure a capture card? |
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| [03:19:00] | Skif: | briand: yes and yes. |
| [03:19:00] | Garf`: | hola |
| [03:19:00] | Skif: | In fact, mythbackend complained at me because I forgot to reset the default channel (I don't have a channel 3 in my setup) |
| [03:20:00] | Skif: | Great, now it's hung again when I select "Watch Recordings" |
| [03:20:00] | Skif: | something must be hosed here, but I'm darned if I can figure out what. |
| [03:21:00] | briand: | check the card outside of mythtv and see if it's working properly |
| [03:21:00] | Skif: | good idea, briand. |
| [03:21:00] | grobnica_mladost: | briand |
| [03:21:00] | grobnica_mladost: | debian:/home/morke/MyDownloads/kde-3.4.2/kdebase-3.4.2# mysql -u root -p < /home/morke/mythtv-0.18.1/database/mc.sql |
| [03:21:00] | grobnica_mladost: | Enter password: |
| [03:21:00] | grobnica_mladost: | ERROR 1007 at line 1: Can't create database 'mythconverg'. Database exists |
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| [03:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | Skif: Appears to lockup every time you go to Watch Recordings? Partially draws the screen but not all of it ? |
| [03:22:00] | briand: | grobnica_mladost: does it exit immediately after that, or does it keep running? |
| [03:22:00] | zamboni: | howdy |
| [03:22:00] | Skif: | GreyFoxx: Most of the time it locks up when I try to delete a recording. This is the first time it's locked up when I was just trying to look at them. |
| [03:22:00] | grobnica_mladost: | emediatly, I think briand |
| [03:22:00] | zamboni: | anyone here ever use a FireDTV box with mythTV? |
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| [03:23:00] | zamboni: | saw the thing on DrDish last evening(SatIA5-FTA) |
| [03:23:00] | briand: | grobnica_mladost: okay, no problem.. log into mysql again (as root) and type DROP DATABASE MYTHCONVERGE; then exit back to the '$' prompt and try the script again. |
| [03:24:00] | Garf`: | does lirc support RF remotes? |
| [03:24:00] | Skif: | briand: I get video fine from the card. |
| [03:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | Garf`: It's supports some of them |
| [03:24:00] | Skif: | briand: just 'dd if=/dev/video0 of=file', right? |
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| [03:24:00] | Garf`: | GreyFoxx: how about ati's |
| [03:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | It does support the remote wonder |
| [03:25:00] | grobnica_mladost: | briand : same thing again : 2005-10–01 03:26:04.138 Unable to connect to database! |
| [03:25:00] | grobnica_mladost: | 2005-10–01 03:26:04.138 No error type from QSqlError? Strange... |
| [03:25:00] | briand: | Skif: or cat /dev/video0 >filename.mpg and then hit ctrl-c after a bit... |
| [03:25:00] | Skif: | What pisses me off is I had this working great with 0.17, but ever since I upgraded, it's never worked right :( |
| [03:26:00] | Skif: | briand: cat, dd, same thing. Anyway, I got video off the card, so that seems to be working fine. |
| [03:26:00] | ** Skif will try mythtv-setup again, just to be safe. ** | |
| [03:26:00] | Garf`: | GreyFoxx: im not sure what i have, a friend gave it to me... Its a grey RF remote w/ a USB rf receiver |
| [03:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Garf`: Does it by Chance say "OneBox" or "Niveus" near the bottom under the pause/play/etcf buttons ? |
| [03:28:00] | grobnica_mladost: | briand , I dont know what else to do |
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| [03:28:00] | [Xander]: | v |
| [03:28:00] | Flimzy: | blah blah blah... |
| [03:29:00] | Garf`: | GreyFoxx: no just a big red ATI logo |
| [03:29:00] | Skif: | briand: okay, now this is odd... when I try to set up my cards now, I can select an mpeg-2 card (I have a pvr-500), and I select device /dev/video0, but I have no options for "Default Input" |
| [03:29:00] | briand: | grobnica_mladost: well, the problem appears to be that MySQL has not be properly and/or completely set up for mythtv — are you following a HOWTO guide, by chance? |
| [03:29:00] | zamboni: | Flimzy: that's a Flimzy thing to say |
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| [03:29:00] | Flimzy: | zamboni: can't get myth to work with firewire |
| [03:29:00] | [Xander]: | anyone here know the latest status for pvr350's being able to do closed captions in myth? |
| [03:29:00] | Flimzy: | so I dunno what else to say |
| [03:29:00] | Flimzy: | heh |
| [03:29:00] | zamboni: | hmm |
| [03:30:00] | Skif: | Ah, probably because I forgot to stop mythtv-backend |
| [03:30:00] | briand: | Skif: you should also have a /dev/video1, no? |
| [03:30:00] | zamboni: | well serendipity strikes! |
| [03:30:00] | grobnica_mladost: | briand , no I didnt, but I will do that tommorow ( I have to slepa now) Thanks for help briand |
| [03:30:00] | zamboni: | was interested in the FireDTV box myself |
| [03:30:00] | Skif: | briand: yeah, hang on a sec. Let me retry with no backend running and see what -setup tells me. |
| [03:30:00] | briand: | happy to help (if i actually did!), grobnica_mladost .. g'nite |
| [03:31:00] | zamboni: | these FireDTV ase supposed to be 4:2:2 capable as in FTA Feeds |
| [03:31:00] | [Xander]: | anyone here have a 350 and 150 working in the same box? |
| [03:31:00] | briand: | [Xander]: I haven't tried it on my PVR-350, so I have no personal experience... but reading through the ivtv-dev list the past week or so seems to indicate it's working... |
| [03:31:00] | zamboni: | three tuners in one PVR Imagine that! |
| [03:31:00] | briand: | [Xander]: i have a 350, and am installing a 500 into the box next week |
| [03:32:00] | Skif: | briand: interesting... I get 0 bytes read from /dev/vide01 |
| [03:32:00] | Skif: | /dev/video1, even. |
| [03:32:00] | [Xander]: | [CC] or the 350/150.. ahh |
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| [03:32:00] | Flimzy: | I have a dual-tuner Motorola 6412 |
| [03:32:00] | Flimzy: | but it's not showing up on the firewire bus |
| [03:32:00] | [Xander]: | briand: have they fixed the scaling problems? |
| [03:32:00] | zamboni: | I have a t present a PVR 250 |
| [03:32:00] | briand: | with X thru the PVR's TV-out, you mean? |
| [03:33:00] | [Xander]: | when i tried to use the 150 to record/playback it was all huge off the screen on one side. |
| [03:33:00] | briand: | what version of the ivtv drivers are you using? |
| [03:33:00] | jhoke: | back |
| [03:33:00] | [Xander]: | lemme check |
| [03:34:00] | zamboni: | Xander: soinds like an X modeline issue but that's totally off the cuff |
| [03:34:00] | jhoke: | Xander: I think i saw somehting about the screen issues with the 150 on the mailing list... have you checked the archives? |
| [03:34:00] | [Xander]: | there was a known problem with having to change the default resolutions or something, but that only got me so far... the image was still not full and centered |
| [03:35:00] | [Xander]: | ivtv 0.3.8 |
| [03:35:00] | jhoke: | did you install ivtv yourself or via package? and what distro? |
| [03:35:00] | [Xander]: | installed it myself, gentoo |
| [03:35:00] | jhoke: | k |
| [03:35:00] | briand: | where are you playing back through? TV out on the PVR-350, or from your video card? |
| [03:35:00] | ** zamboni loves forensics ** | |
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| [03:35:00] | zamboni: | Good Question |
| [03:35:00] | [Xander]: | from the nvidia... the X through the 350 gave me fits to figure out. |
| [03:36:00] | jhoke: | I am using 0.3.8–97 under FC4 wtih a 150 w/out issues |
| [03:36:00] | jhoke: | and I am running a nvidia 5500 |
| [03:36:00] | [Xander]: | i'm running amd64 also.. (makes it a little more interesting for me :) |
| [03:36:00] | briand: | hmm. I may need to upgrade my ivtv driver... heheh.. ivtvctl -V indicates I'm running 0.2.0 |
| [03:36:00] | jhoke: | can you correct it via the setup positioning? |
| [03:36:00] | [Xander]: | that won't move it at all... |
| [03:37:00] | jhoke: | briand, only if you are running a pvr150 or 500 I think :) |
| [03:37:00] | briand: | jhoke: I've got a PVR-500MCE on it's way here.. to populate the remaining PCI slot in my Pundit box. |
| [03:37:00] | [Xander]: | do you think i'll have more or less luck with closed captions if i go through the effort of running everything through the pvr350 tvout? |
| [03:38:00] | jhoke: | briand: nice! Then you will ahve to upgrade to the 3 branch |
| [03:38:00] | jhoke: | afaik |
| [03:38:00] | briand: | jhoke: should be straightforward, though, no?? |
| [03:38:00] | jhoke: | xander: i dunno... dont have a 350 :( |
| [03:38:00] | [Xander]: | ahh |
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| [03:38:00] | [Xander]: | i'm a bit hard of hearing, so [cc] would be nice. |
| [03:38:00] | jhoke: | briand: yep ... what distro? You compiling yourself, or via package? |
| [03:39:00] | briand: | I'm running on FC3, using the mythtv-suite rpm |
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| [03:39:00] | briand: | been working just fine for the past several months... but now I want to 'expand' it a bit. |
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| [03:39:00] | [Xander]: | i've got a 350 and 2 150's, but the 150's are sitting on the shelf until i get reassurance that putting all 3 in a box won't wreck my working system |
| [03:39:00] | jhoke: | briand: piece of cake then ... just do a yum update ivtv (I think) |
| [03:39:00] | Skif: | bah |
| [03:39:00] | Skif: | I can't seem to read any data from /dev/video1 |
| [03:39:00] | Skif: | dmesg shows it's being recognized properly. |
| [03:39:00] | briand: | the fall season has uncovered a few recording conflicts that an extra tuner (or two!) would solve... |
| [03:40:00] | Flimzy: | Anyone here using myth w/ firewire? |
| [03:40:00] | briand: | Without A Trace vs. ER, etc. |
| [03:40:00] | jhoke: | tell me about it! I have a 150 and 250... want to get a 500 next so I can toss the 250 into another box :) |
| [03:40:00] | jhoke: | FLimzy, sorry not I |
| [03:40:00] | Skif: | I just want to get my 500 working again. :) |
| [03:40:00] | briand: | there's a firewire port on my Pundit, but I'm not using it... |
| [03:40:00] | [Xander]: | unfortunately for me, the 350 box is 'in production' as far as the wife is concerned, and a little 'off limits' to tinkering for extended periods of time. ;) |
| [03:41:00] | jhoke: | what REALLY sucks is i lost my hard drive this AM and lost all the shows I taped so far this season [bastards!] |
| [03:41:00] | briand: | ouch. |
| [03:41:00] | briand: | how big a drive was it? |
| [03:41:00] | jhoke: | 200gb |
| [03:41:00] | briand: | I've got a 300g drive in mine. |
| [03:41:00] | jhoke: | 70% full |
| [03:41:00] | [Xander]: | jhoke: mirrored drives are your friends |
| [03:41:00] | briand: | jhoke: big ouch. :( |
| [03:41:00] | jhoke: | Xander, agreed... when I have teh $ and space ;) |
| [03:42:00] | jhoke: | i currently plan to nuvexport -> DIVX and drop to DVD more often now :-D |
| [03:42:00] | [Xander]: | i'm wanting to build a little 'silent' frontend, and move this beast off the tv! |
| [03:42:00] | Skif: | briand: any clue as to why mythtv-setup would complain "Couldn't open /dev/video0 to probe its inputs" ? I can cat video off it... |
| [03:43:00] | jhoke: | (until I can build my nice fileserver from hell..... planned it out, wife ok'd it but we are moving so I am waiting till we move and I have a gigabit ethernet backbone for NFS) |
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| [03:43:00] | briand: | jhoke: or, alternatively... write a script to move the physical files after recording to a distant NFS mount and write a symlink in the /video directory ;) |
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| [03:44:00] | jhoke: | briand: until I move I am stuck with only this box, my mail server(not alot of disk in it) and two imacs... so ... will have to wait till I move ... DVDs are my friend :) |
| [03:44:00] | Skif: | bah |
| [03:44:00] | Skif: | I'm just going to reinstall the box. |
| [03:44:00] | Skif: | I prefer ubuntu on it anyway :) |
| [03:44:00] | jhoke: | :) |
| [03:44:00] | briand: | jhoke: ah... but the nuvexport is a lengthy process, no? |
| [03:45:00] | jhoke: | briand: not really ... and I can ssh in from work to create the DIVX copies... |
| [03:45:00] | jhoke: | :-D |
| [03:45:00] | briand: | Skif: did you check to make sure /dev/video0 exists, and has the proper permissions? |
| [03:45:00] | briand: | -rw-rw--- |
| [03:46:00] | gnuyen: | Hi guys |
| [03:46:00] | jhoke: | shit... just noticed that my files are now being recorded as mpg files (running svn) ... should be interesting to see how nuvexport handles this |
| [03:46:00] | jhoke: | heya gnuyen |
| [03:46:00] | gnuyen: | almost got a pvr 500 working |
| [03:46:00] | gnuyen: | almost |
| [03:46:00] | gnuyen: | svideo comes in |
| [03:46:00] | gnuyen: | but the tuner only shows static |
| [03:46:00] | gnuyen: | and i can't change channels |
| [03:46:00] | Skif: | briand: yes, and yes. :) I'll check back in when my rebuild is complete... shouldn't take 20 minutes. :) |
| [03:46:00] | jhoke: | gnuyen, do you have the input set to the svideo instead of the tuner? |
| [03:47:00] | gnuyen: | well i changed it |
| [03:47:00] | gnuyen: | to svideo |
| [03:47:00] | gnuyen: | to test it |
| [03:47:00] | gnuyen: | and it works |
| [03:47:00] | gnuyen: | for svideo in |
| [03:47:00] | gnuyen: | i can see stuff |
| [03:47:00] | gnuyen: | but for the tuner0 |
| [03:47:00] | jhoke: | in mythtv-setup? |
| [03:47:00] | gnuyen: | yes |
| [03:47:00] | gnuyen: | but then when i change it to tuner0 it's just static and i can't change channels |
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| [03:48:00] | jhoke: | was just a thought, i dont have a 500 and I use Fconnectors from my cable :( |
| [03:48:00] | jhoke: | i dont think it will be tuner0 |
| [03:50:00] | jhoke: | AFAIK tuner0 would be the "coax" connector, no? SVideo would require you to change the channel on the STB? |
| [03:51:00] | jhoke: | does the above make sense? Not sure 100% but that is how I grokked it |
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| [03:52:00] | gnuyen: | right |
| [03:52:00] | gnuyen: | bwhat i'm saying |
| [03:53:00] | gnuyen: | is when i don't have it set on tuner0 |
| [03:53:00] | gnuyen: | when i have it set on svideo |
| [03:53:00] | gnuyen: | i can see stuff |
| [03:53:00] | gnuyen: | but when i have it set to tuner0 |
| [03:53:00] | gnuyen: | the coax connector |
| [03:53:00] | gnuyen: | so i can watch cable |
| [03:53:00] | gnuyen: | i can't change channels and all i see is static |
| [03:55:00] | Flimzy: | Is it possible to watch '5C' programs with myth? |
| [03:56:00] | briand: | i'll be back in a little bit.. going to watch NUMB3RS .. |
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| [04:14:00] | Garf`: | zgreyfo: still around? |
| [04:14:00] | Garf`: | greyfoxx* |
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| [04:15:00] | Flimzy: | Hrmm... |
| [04:15:00] | Flimzy: | shouldn't ohci1394 be used by raw1394? |
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| [04:23:00] | fryfrog: | Flimzy: no, you can't watch 5C over firewire cause no company in their right mind would grant the keys and licenses required to do so to an opensource project |
| [04:24:00] | Flimzy: | fryfrog: That's never stopped OS projects before... for instance, with DVD encryption |
| [04:24:00] | Flimzy: | :) |
| [04:24:00] | fryfrog: | dvd encryption was comparitivly weak |
| [04:24:00] | fryfrog: | and they didn't get a liscense for that |
| [04:25:00] | Flimzy: | I don't care about licenses |
| [04:25:00] | Flimzy: | I care about technical ability to do it :) |
| [04:25:00] | fryfrog: | yes, well your devices do :) |
| [04:25:00] | Flimzy: | well if/when someone cracks 5C, they won't care any more |
| [04:25:00] | Flimzy: | hehe |
| [04:25:00] | Garf`: | anyone wanna help with a rf remote and rf usb receiver + lirc (an ati remote, not sure which one...) |
| [04:25:00] | Flimzy: | Before I care about 5C, tho... |
| [04:26:00] | Flimzy: | I just wanna get dang standard firewire stuff to work |
| [04:26:00] | fryfrog: | i tried firewire |
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| [04:26:00] | fryfrog: | could only get 2 HD channels and the analog ones to output |
| [04:27:00] | fryfrog: | all the rest were dead |
| [04:27:00] | Flimzy: | fryfrog: what sort of device were you using? |
| [04:27:00] | fryfrog: | communistcast's motorolo DVR |
| [04:27:00] | fryfrog: | 6400 something? |
| [04:27:00] | Flimzy: | that's what I'm using |
| [04:27:00] | Flimzy: | 6412 |
| [04:27:00] | Flimzy: | how'd you get it to work at all? |
| [04:28:00] | fryfrog: | it'd have been awsome since it has two tuners and two firewire ports |
| [04:28:00] | fryfrog: | what distro? |
| [04:28:00] | Flimzy: | Debian |
| [04:28:00] | Flimzy: | I think that's probably the only way I'm going to get any digital channels w/ mythtv |
| [04:28:00] | fryfrog: | do you have all the proper libs installed? |
| [04:28:00] | fryfrog: | does "plugreport" show the device? |
| [04:28:00] | Flimzy: | yeah, as far as I know |
| [04:28:00] | Flimzy: | I can see the device in gscanbus |
| [04:28:00] | Flimzy: | altho with a big ? mark |
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| [04:29:00] | fryfrog: | gscanbus? |
| [04:29:00] | fryfrog: | is that a firewire scanner? |
| [04:29:00] | Flimzy: | yeah |
| [04:29:00] | Flimzy: | I'm unfamiliar with plugreport |
| [04:30:00] | fryfrog: | its text driven |
| [04:30:00] | Flimzy: | and it's not on my system |
| [04:30:00] | Flimzy: | what pacakge does it come with? |
| [04:30:00] | fryfrog: | humm |
| [04:30:00] | Bachus9000: | Occasionally program guide information changes between the time a given program first appears in the listing and the time it is finally shown. For example, a showing of "Law & Order" may simply show up as just the show title when it first appears in the listings, but later on Zap2It's listings may change to include the particular episode title. In these cases, Mythtv never replaces the outdated program info. Is the |
| [04:30:00] | Bachus9000: | re a way to do this without deleting the whole program guide in mythtv-setup? |
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| [04:31:00] | fryfrog: | media-libs/libiec61883 |
| [04:31:00] | fryfrog: | on my system |
| [04:31:00] | Flimzy: | you using Debian? |
| [04:33:00] | fryfrog: | no, gentoo :( |
| [04:33:00] | Flimzy: | I haven't had any success finding libiec61883 for Debian... and when I tried to compile it myself, it complained that it needed a version of libavc1394 that didn't seem to exist anywhere on google |
| [04:33:00] | fryfrog: | if gscan sees it, i think thats what matters |
| [04:33:00] | fryfrog: | oh? |
| [04:33:00] | fryfrog: | you have the raw thing? |
| [04:33:00] | Flimzy: | Yeah |
| [04:33:00] | fryfrog: | shoot, lemme see the names of these libs one sec |
| [04:33:00] | Flimzy: | I have /dev/raw1394 at the moment |
| [04:33:00] | fryfrog: | does it create a raw de... |
| [04:33:00] | fryfrog: | kk |
| [04:33:00] | Flimzy: | and libraw1394 |
| [04:34:00] | fryfrog: | have you compiled the "6200ch" program? |
| [04:34:00] | fryfrog: | in contrib? |
| [04:34:00] | fryfrog: | myth's contrib that is |
| [04:34:00] | Flimzy: | okay, libiec61883's ./configure script complains that it needs libraw1394 version 1.2.0... But best I can tell, version 0.10.0 (which seems to be aka 1.1.0) is the newest |
| [04:34:00] | Flimzy: | uh |
| [04:34:00] | Flimzy: | let me see if I can find it |
| [04:34:00] | fryfrog: | thats what i started with, it lets you change channels over firewire |
| [04:35:00] | fryfrog: | it at least gives you proof that *that* part works |
| [04:35:00] | fryfrog: | i had to slightly modify the code though i think |
| [04:35:00] | fryfrog: | because it didn't quite recognize my box |
| [04:35:00] | fryfrog: | i *think* i just made it so the "default" was to go ahead and try instead of erroring out saying it didn't recognize the box |
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| [04:36:00] | Flimzy: | what version of myth were you using? |
| [04:36:00] | fryfrog: | supposidly, myth supports firewire channel changes *INTERNALLY*, but i think its for the 6200 not 6400 series |
| [04:36:00] | fryfrog: | svn |
| [04:36:00] | fryfrog: | but i think that script is in the .0.18 or older versions |
| [04:36:00] | fryfrog: | when ever firewire was added |
| [04:36:00] | Flimzy: | I think the 6400 appears as a 6200... but I'm not certian of that |
| [04:36:00] | Flimzy: | (I base this on the fact that the 6412 is a 2-tuner version of the 6208... which I'm assuming is compatilbe with a 6200) |
| [04:37:00] | fryfrog: | Flimzy: yes, they are quite "similar" |
| [04:37:00] | Flimzy: | anyway, I'm not finding the 6200ch program just yet |
| [04:37:00] | fryfrog: | but i think myth (and i *know* the 6200ch script) do not realize they are the same |
| [04:37:00] | fryfrog: | its in the contrib dir of the source, i didn't get it when i installed via my package system |
| [04:37:00] | fryfrog: | who is your cable service? |
| [04:37:00] | Flimzy: | Cox |
| [04:38:00] | Flimzy: | d/ling the myth source right now |
| [04:38:00] | fryfrog: | i'm gonna wager $1 that they 5C all their digital channels |
| [04:38:00] | fryfrog: | and probably a majority of their HDTV chans |
| [04:38:00] | Flimzy: | Hmm |
| [04:38:00] | Flimzy: | Yaknow... |
| [04:38:00] | Flimzy: | well |
| [04:38:00] | fryfrog: | only my 2–81 (analog) and like 2 HDTV chans were not-5c |
| [04:38:00] | Flimzy: | some fellow Cox employees have told me they can watch TV from WinXP |
| [04:38:00] | Flimzy: | altho they didn't specify if they were digital channels |
| [04:39:00] | fryfrog: | i wish you luck :) |
| [04:39:00] | fryfrog: | you *sure* there were not just taking svideo out? |
| [04:40:00] | Flimzy: | The last guy I talked to was talking about, I think, 'mounting' the DVR's internal HD as a share |
| [04:40:00] | Flimzy: | then streaming the live buffer |
| [04:40:00] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [04:40:00] | Flimzy: | which sounds a lot different than watching live TV |
| [04:40:00] | fryfrog: | not *quite* the same thing i think :/ |
| [04:40:00] | Flimzy: | maybe that bypasses the 5C restriction, tho? |
| [04:40:00] | fryfrog: | thats what i'm guessing |
| [04:40:00] | Flimzy: | and maybe it's also completely incompatible with mythtv :P |
| [04:41:00] | Flimzy: | if I could get it to work with myth, that would be nice, tho... esp. if it bypasses the 5C thing |
| [04:41:00] | fryfrog: | i am 98% sure that myth is just listening to the stream output by the device |
| [04:41:00] | Flimzy: | Yeah |
| [04:41:00] | Flimzy: | Altho if I could build my own 'device'... that essentially 'cat's that live buffer to a fifo... |
| [04:41:00] | Flimzy: | I could probably get myth to use that fifo, right? |
| [04:41:00] | fryfrog: | and there didn't appear to be any legal mandate that its HDTV output even *had* to be non-5c |
| [04:41:00] | fryfrog: | no clue, :/ |
| [04:41:00] | Flimzy: | Anyway, I'm jumping ahead of myself |
| [04:41:00] | Flimzy: | right now I just want to access the darn firewire thing |
| [04:41:00] | Flimzy: | hehe |
| [04:42:00] | fryfrog: | it was a pain in the ass and i gave up :) |
| [04:42:00] | fryfrog: | then i bought an air2pc card hoping to get QAM hdtv chans |
| [04:42:00] | fryfrog: | i'm about to give up on that |
| [04:43:00] | Flimzy: | Cox has told me they will NOT provision anything except Motorola digital receivers and "Cable Cards" |
| [04:43:00] | Flimzy: | I know nothing about cable cards, tho |
| [04:43:00] | Flimzy: | maybe the PCI cards appear as a cable card to the Cable co? |
| [04:43:00] | fryfrog: | what does that have to do with air2pc hdtv cards? |
| [04:43:00] | fryfrog: | oh |
| [04:43:00] | Flimzy: | I don't know... |
| [04:43:00] | fryfrog: | nothing like that |
| [04:43:00] | fryfrog: | most of the cable companies use "QAM" to broadcast signals |
| [04:43:00] | fryfrog: | they also don't encrypt their HDTV channels for the most part |
| [04:44:00] | Flimzy: | I asked if I could use a PCI card, and my answer was "If it looks like a cable card to us, we can provision it" |
| [04:44:00] | fryfrog: | (except hbo and such) |
| [04:44:00] | fryfrog: | i am pretty sure they are legally *required* to carry the local HDTV stations that they offer unencrypted |
| [04:44:00] | fryfrog: | they just broadcast it, like OTA |
| [04:45:00] | Flimzy: | probably |
| [04:45:00] | fryfrog: | not probably, thats how it works |
| [04:45:00] | fryfrog: | the two way "provisioning" aspect is for their own stuff |
| [04:45:00] | fryfrog: | like the digital and premium channels |
| [04:45:00] | Flimzy: | Could not find Motorola DCT-6200 on the 1394 bus. |
| [04:45:00] | fryfrog: | the encrypted content |
| [04:45:00] | fryfrog: | 6200ch? |
| [04:45:00] | Flimzy: | yeah |
| [04:45:00] | fryfrog: | yup, thats what i got |
| [04:45:00] | Flimzy: | how'd you 'fix' it? |
| [04:45:00] | fryfrog: | i had to edit the source and make it think it was a 6200 |
| [04:46:00] | Flimzy: | There's a 6412 ID in there... |
| [04:46:00] | Flimzy: | lemme see if it matches mine |
| [04:46:00] | Flimzy: | nope, it doesn't |
| [04:46:00] | Flimzy: | guess I'll add that |
| [04:47:00] | fryfrog: | i think thats what i did :) |
| [04:48:00] | Flimzy: | ha |
| [04:48:00] | Flimzy: | it now says AV/C Command: 050 = Op1=0x00487C20 Op2=0x00487C25 Op3=0x00487C20 |
| [04:48:00] | Flimzy: | I guess that's a good sign? |
| [04:49:00] | Flimzy: | so now what do I need to do yet to get myth to work with it? |
| [04:49:00] | fryfrog: | did it actually cahnge the channel? |
| [04:50:00] | Flimzy: | I'll hafta plug something into it to see |
| [04:50:00] | Flimzy: | one moment |
| [04:51:00] | Flimzy: | Yes... it did! |
| [04:51:00] | Flimzy: | I suppose if nothing else, I could capture the analog output, couldn't I? |
| [04:51:00] | Flimzy: | I wouldn't get digital quality |
| [04:51:00] | Flimzy: | but at least I'd get all the channels |
| [04:52:00] | Flimzy: | in Myth setup, how do I know what port and node to use? |
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| [04:57:00] | Flimzy: | Is there a utlity to test-dump video from the firewire port? |
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| [05:11:00] | Garf`: | exit |
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| [05:11:00] | fryfrog: | Flimzy: port/node is the info i got from "plugreport" |
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| [05:33:00] | SqWaw: | When I do: |
| [05:33:00] | SqWaw: | garf@MythTV / $ /usr/bin/irw |
| [05:33:00] | SqWaw: | garf@MythTV / $ |
| [05:33:00] | SqWaw: | it brings me straight back to the $... |
| [05:33:00] | SqWaw: | does even gimme half a second to hit buttons on the remote |
| [05:33:00] | SqWaw: | any ideas? |
| [05:42:00] | Flimzy: | fryfrog, Do you recall if you used PtP or Broadcast? |
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| [05:48:00] | AppleBoy: | I can't wait, soo close! |
| [05:48:00] | Skif: | okay, I've reinstalled my mythbox, and I still can't get any output out of /dev/video1 with ivtv 0.3.8 or 0.3.9 :) |
| [05:49:00] | Skif: | I can get data from /dev/video0, but mythbackend hangs (apparently) randomly. |
| [05:49:00] | Skif: | man, I miss 0.17 |
| [05:50:00] | Ryushin: | skif: Do you have any other hardware in your box? Ar eyou using a pvr-x50? |
| [05:51:00] | Skif: | ryushin: I have a video card, a wireless NIC, and a PVR-500 |
| [05:51:00] | Skif: | so I guess so, given that a 500 is 2x150 |
| [05:51:00] | Ryushin: | I have a pvr-350, but I guess it should mostly be the same. |
| [05:51:00] | Skif: | I think so; isn't the 350's main difference that it has a hardware decoder? |
| [05:52:00] | Ryushin: | When you modprobe the card in, does it load the firmware? |
| [05:52:00] | Skif: | yes. |
| [05:52:00] | Ryushin: | I think the pvr-150 and pvr-500 are a bit different than the 250 and 350. |
| [05:53:00] | Ryushin: | Why are you trying to get data out of video1 and not video0? |
| [05:53:00] | Ryushin: | Are you able to change the channels using the tune.pl? |
| [05:54:00] | Skif: | Ryushin: a pvr-500 has 2 tuners on it |
| [05:54:00] | Skif: | I can get data fine from video0, but not video1 |
| [05:54:00] | Ryushin: | I know. It's two 150's. |
| [05:54:00] | Ryushin: | Oh, I understand the problem. k. |
| [05:55:00] | AppleBoy: | does mythtvsetup need to be ran as root? |
| [05:55:00] | Ryushin: | Yes. |
| [05:55:00] | AppleBoy: | :( |
| [05:56:00] | Skif: | It does? |
| [05:56:00] | Skif: | I always run it as mythtv with no trouble |
| [05:56:00] | Skif: | Ryushin: what do you think the problem is... |
| [05:56:00] | Skif: | s/.../?/ |
| [05:56:00] | Ryushin: | Well, not entirely. If you get all the devices in /dev that are needed with the correct permissions of another user. |
| [05:57:00] | Ryushin: | But to trouble shoot, it will be best to get it working as root, and then as another user. |
| [05:57:00] | Ryushin: | Yea, but the mythbackend starts as root doesn't it. |
| [05:57:00] | Skif: | Happily, ubuntu's myth packages set that up just fine already. |
| [05:57:00] | Ryushin: | Are you able to tune the 2nd tuner using tune.pl? |
| [05:58:00] | AppleBoy: | in short I'm having problems with zap2it or whatever |
| [05:59:00] | AppleBoy: | it keeps timing out :( |
| [05:59:00] | Skif: | I've never used that before... is it shipped with ivtv or mythtv? |
| [05:59:00] | AppleBoy: | neither, it's a channel xml program |
| [05:59:00] | AppleBoy: | manages channels and shows for you |
| [05:59:00] | Skif: | What's "channel xml"? |
| [05:59:00] | AppleBoy: | Connection timed out. |
| [05:59:00] | AppleBoy: | You probably should modify the Master Server settings |
| [05:59:00] | AppleBoy: | in the setup program and set the proper IP address. |
| [05:59:00] | AppleBoy: | :( |
| [06:00:00] | Ryushin: | ivtv. |
| [06:00:00] | Skif: | I see a ptune.pl, is that it? |
| [06:00:00] | Ryushin: | Sorry, yea. |
| [06:01:00] | briand: | AppleBoy: not to indicate that you don't have an error in your setup... but PINGing labs.zap2it.com seems to time out as well. ;) |
| [06:01:00] | AppleBoy: | no, I don't use ivtv because it's not for the hd-3000 |
| [06:02:00] | Ryushin: | appleboy: Oh, you're having fun with the hd-3000 card too. |
| [06:03:00] | Ryushin: | I have one and a pvr-350 card. Took me awhile to get everything working correctly. |
| [06:03:00] | Ryushin: | Are you doing OTA or QAM? |
| [06:04:00] | AppleBoy: | ?? |
| [06:05:00] | AppleBoy: | oh, I'm going to see if I can't hook straight into the cable |
| [06:05:00] | Ryushin: | Over The Air or QAM over cable. |
| [06:05:00] | Ryushin: | Have fun. |
| [06:05:00] | Ryushin: | What provider do you have for you cable? |
| [06:05:00] | AppleBoy: | cox |
| [06:06:00] | Ryushin: | Hopefully they don't try and hide the HD signals like comcast does. |
| [06:06:00] | Skif: | Ryushin: ptune seemed to work okay, but I still don't get any data from video1 |
| [06:06:00] | Ryushin: | How are you testing it? Are you cat /dev/video1 and then trying to play it? |
| [06:07:00] | Skif: | Ryushin: dd instead of cat, but pretty much, yeah. |
| [06:07:00] | Skif: | Only I get 0 bytes when reading from video1. |
| [06:08:00] | AppleBoy: | briand: do you use zap2it? |
| [06:09:00] | Ryushin: | And your using using hte ptune on /dev/video1? |
| [06:09:00] | Skif: | yes. |
| [06:10:00] | Ryushin: | Appleboy: I use zap2it. Don't have any problems at all. Is it just saying it doesn't connect for you. |
| [06:11:00] | Ryushin: | skif: Have you tried opening up two ptunes to see if you can change each tuner independently? Also, what is dmesg telling you during this. You might want to tail -f /var/log/kern.log. |
| [06:12:00] | AppleBoy: | it can grab my linups and everything |
| [06:12:00] | AppleBoy: | it shows the channels |
| [06:13:00] | AppleBoy: | but the mythfilldatabase gives me errors :( |
| [06:13:00] | AppleBoy: | h/o, I'll post to pastebin |
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| [06:13:00] | AppleBoy: | http://pastebin.com/379366 |
| [06:14:00] | Skif: | Ryushin: I can change the channel on video0 fine. I can't tell if I can change it on video1, since I can't get any data from that device. |
| [06:14:00] | jhoke: | Appleboy, is your backend runnign? |
| [06:15:00] | jhoke: | you have to have the BE running to do a mythfilldatabase now i think |
| [06:15:00] | Ryushin: | skif: What does /var/log/kern.log tell you? |
| [06:15:00] | jhoke: | the connection error you are getting is that mythfilldatabase cant connect to the backend :) |
| [06:15:00] | Skif: | Ryushin: not a darned thing. |
| [06:15:00] | Ryushin: | appleboy: the logs look like mine. |
| [06:16:00] | Skif: | I mean, there's no output at all during the dd runs. |
| [06:16:00] | Ryushin: | skif: Use modinfo ivtv and find out what option you need to set to get the debugging higher. |
| [06:16:00] | AppleBoy: | what is up with the unauthorized crap? |
| [06:16:00] | jhoke: | that'snormal |
| [06:16:00] | Ryushin: | I get that too. |
| [06:16:00] | jhoke: | you connect -> Zap it says... no we want auth |
| [06:16:00] | jhoke: | then you reconnect with your login/pass |
| [06:17:00] | jhoke: | thats the way ALL http sessions work, just in a browser you dont see it |
| [06:17:00] | Skif: | Ryushin: I don't see anything obvious. |
| [06:17:00] | jhoke: | its no different than if you open a .htaccess protected page in lynx really |
| [06:18:00] | Skif: | ah, there it is. |
| [06:18:00] | Skif: | ivtv_debug |
| [06:18:00] | jhoke: | lynx tries to connect then says... no unauthorized, please enter your username/pass |
| [06:18:00] | jhoke: | that make sense now? |
| [06:18:00] | Ryushin: | modprobe ivtv ivtv_debug=511 That will give you max debug. |
| [06:19:00] | AppleBoy: | ah ha, that was it |
| [06:19:00] | jhoke: | ? |
| [06:19:00] | jhoke: | appleboy: ? |
| [06:22:00] | Skif: | Ryushin: http://pastebin.com/379369 |
| [06:23:00] | Skif: | Aside from the bits at the end about "deqbuf: 0 DeQ from empty list!" I don't see anything obvious. |
| [06:24:00] | Ryushin: | I don't see anywhere that your firmware was loaded. |
| [06:24:00] | Skif: | Ryushin: that was when I did the dd |
| [06:24:00] | Skif: | http://pastebin.com/379369 is my modprobe |
| [06:25:00] | Skif: | er sorry |
| [06:25:00] | Skif: | http://pastebin.com/379353 is what I meant |
| [06:25:00] | Skif: | that is the modprobe log |
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| [06:26:00] | Ryushin: | Does it load the firmware for each tuner? I think it's going to have to. |
| [06:26:00] | Skif: | Yes it seems to be. |
| [06:27:00] | Skif: | See lines 30 and 58 |
| [06:28:00] | Ryushin: | I think you're going to have to set up your modprobe.d/ivtv for the second tuner. You will probably want to search the ivtv mailing lists for more information on it. Sorry, I have to be up real early and I'm going to have to crash now. |
| [06:28:00] | Skif: | It's okay. |
| [06:28:00] | Skif: | Only I already did that part. :) |
| [06:29:00] | Ryushin: | By all. |
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| [06:32:00] | ** Skif has 'alias char-major-81–1 ivtv' in /etc/modprobe.d/ivtv ** | |
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| [06:38:00] | SqWaw: | When in MythWeb, going to backend status seems to freeze up the webserver until i do "apache2 restart" |
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| [06:40:00] | ShockValue: | anyone ever used a d10–100 remote with myth successfully? |
| [06:40:00] | ShockValue: | i cant seem to find a code that turns on all the goods |
| [06:44:00] | Skif: | Well, we shall see what ivtv-devel has to say. |
| [06:46:00] | jhoke: | hmmm... has anyone removed atrpms packages and replaced with livna packages (mjpeg* transcode etc) successfully? |
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| [07:02:00] | jroberts_235: | Building a mythtv box in the coming weeks, what should I know? |
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| [07:04:00] | ShockValue: | know linux :) |
| [07:05:00] | ShockValue: | anyone suggest a good/small/ergo remote for myth? has to be a learning one |
| [07:06:00] | rage__: | Is anyone here familliar with scanning problems such as myth only picking up vertical channels? |
| [07:06:00] | ShockValue: | im tryin to use my rc16, but it's not a learning remote, and try as I might, i cant get all the right buttons to turn on with codes. |
| [07:06:00] | jroberts_235: | I'm comfortable in that regard. |
| [07:06:00] | ShockValue: | jroberts_235: well, whats your plan? |
| [07:06:00] | jroberts_235: | I'm looking at the Hauppauge 350 |
| [07:07:00] | jroberts_235: | 3ware SATA – 4 250G drives |
| [07:07:00] | jroberts_235: | Athlon Thunderbird w/1G RAM |
| [07:07:00] | jroberts_235: | D-Vine 5 case. |
| [07:08:00] | jroberts_235: | some sort of DVD rw |
| [07:08:00] | ShockValue: | im not familiar with either of those first 2, i'd check a couple things: TV-OUt issues with the 350, and serial-ata support. |
| [07:08:00] | ShockValue: | and, thats a damn nice setup :) |
| [07:08:00] | mchou: | Shdwdrgn: still on the prowl for a remote?? |
| [07:08:00] | ShockValue: | mchou: i assume you meant me? :) |
| [07:08:00] | jroberts_235: | The 350 is mentioned on the mythtv homepage and SATA is supported in 2.6 kernels |
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| [07:08:00] | mchou: | ShockValue: yeah.... |
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| [07:09:00] | cosmo_: | I cannot kill mythfrontend, any advice? |
| [07:09:00] | ShockValue: | jroberts_235: last time i checked, people had varying success with the tvout of the 350.. but its been a few months since ive read up on it |
| [07:09:00] | mchou: | jroberts_235: why would you want to use a tbird? They're toasters..... |
| [07:09:00] | mchou: | jroberts_235: hot and loud |
| [07:09:00] | jroberts_235: | I have one... |
| [07:10:00] | jroberts_235: | I need to cut cost somewhere |
| [07:10:00] | ShockValue: | mchou: yeah, still looking for a good remote.. i went cruising the local stores and didnt find anything that was all that nice feeling |
| [07:10:00] | mchou: | jroberts_235: bah, sell it on fleabay and upgrade to A64 cool'nQuiet |
| [07:10:00] | ShockValue: | i just wish i could get my r16 working.. but its one of those stupid code-only remotes, and none of the codes will just turn on all the buttons |
| [07:10:00] | mchou: | ShockValue: where you live? |
| [07:10:00] | ShockValue: | Seattle'ish |
| [07:10:00] | jroberts_235: | maybe... |
| [07:10:00] | cosmo_: | nevermind, god I love xkill |
| [07:11:00] | mchou: | ShockValue: try sears...seriously |
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| [07:12:00] | jroberts_235: | I read the hauppauge 350 had a really nice TV-out |
| [07:12:00] | ShockValue: | that kameleon remote looks cool, but it kinda defeats my purpose since you cant feel all the buttons, so you have to look at it to work it. |
| [07:12:00] | jroberts_235: | and the 350 comes with a remote (not sure if it's worth a damn) |
| [07:13:00] | ShockValue: | jroberts_235: it controls mythtv ok, but it wont control anything else in your system |
| [07:13:00] | jroberts_235: | really. That sucks. Does it work through LIRC? |
| [07:13:00] | cosmo_: | nevermind, myth is still running, in the background, hogging alsa. God im so confused |
| [07:13:00] | ShockValue: | jroberts_235: yeah |
| [07:14:00] | ShockValue: | jroberts_235: i use the reciever for that remote on my system, but have a universal remote running myth instead |
| [07:14:00] | jroberts_235: | Hmmm... sounds like a good universal would do both better. |
| [07:15:00] | jroberts_235: | what about using a Tivo remote. |
| [07:15:00] | ShockValue: | jroberts_235: yep... im just still searching for the perfect one :) |
| [07:15:00] | jroberts_235: | can Mythtv be trained to work with other remotes? |
| [07:16:00] | ShockValue: | yeah... you program lirc with your remote codes and give each button a name.. then you map myth's functions to the buttons you defined for lirc |
| [07:17:00] | jroberts_235: | so any remote I like could be made to work? |
| [07:18:00] | ShockValue: | im not sure about that.. it has to send the same kind of codes as the hauppauge one (whatever those are), but it is a fairly common kind of code |
| [07:19:00] | jroberts_235: | ok. Sounds good enough to move forward. |
| [07:19:00] | jroberts_235: | what is your setup? |
| [07:20:00] | ShockValue: | p4 2.4, 120g, hauppauge 250, 512mb, |
| [07:21:00] | ShockValue: | rc2000 remote pointed at it |
| [07:21:00] | jroberts_235: | do you rip dvd's with it? |
| [07:21:00] | ShockValue: | and a marantz sr8000 and NEC 50" hooked up to it |
| [07:21:00] | ShockValue: | no, 120g is just enough for TV mostly |
| [07:22:00] | jroberts_235: | does it work well for you? |
| [07:22:00] | ShockValue: | yeah, im quite happy with it.. the only time it malfunctions is when i try to screw with it to try out new stuff :) |
| [07:22:00] | jroberts_235: | cool. |
| [07:23:00] | jroberts_235: | updates to mythtv break it? or OS updates? |
| [07:23:00] | jroberts_235: | oh yeah, what OS r u using? |
| [07:23:00] | ShockValue: | i use it as a jukebox too, mythmusic is cool.. (but hard to navigate 8000 songs with a remote control) |
| [07:23:00] | ShockValue: | gentoo |
| [07:23:00] | jroberts_235: | 8000! |
| [07:23:00] | jroberts_235: | jeezum... |
| [07:23:00] | ShockValue: | I even payed for most of em :) |
| [07:24:00] | ShockValue: | paid? yes. |
| [07:24:00] | jroberts_235: | I thought about gentoo. I just can't spend 8 hours installing... |
| [07:24:00] | Flamie: | jrtoberts: then take the prebuilt packages from the live-cd? |
| [07:24:00] | jroberts_235: | I use FC, but I think I'm going to use debian for the mythtv box. |
| [07:25:00] | ShockValue: | I did it because i use gentoo as my desktop, and its the only linux ive used.. so i figure it would be most comfortable for my myth box too |
| [07:25:00] | jroberts_235: | Oh yeah... prebuilt huh? |
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| [07:25:00] | ShockValue: | FC would be easiest setup most likely.. there's a great step-by-step guide for a fedora install |
| [07:26:00] | jroberts_235: | FC is too unstable for this project. |
| [07:26:00] | ShockValue: | never used it.. no comment :) |
| [07:26:00] | jroberts_235: | FC, imho, is a hobby os. |
| [07:26:00] | jroberts_235: | tough to stay on top of it. |
| [07:27:00] | ShockValue: | this is my current remote: http://www.billsbest.com/thremote.html |
| [07:27:00] | ShockValue: | it does lots of stuff, but it takes 2 hands and my eyes to run |
| [07:27:00] | ShockValue: | i want something 1 handable, and usable in pitch dark durning the movie |
| [07:28:00] | jroberts_235: | Looks cool! |
| [07:28:00] | jroberts_235: | I bookmarked it |
| [07:28:00] | ** Flamie uses a gamepad instead. So I won't have to switch what I have in my hand when I start playing roms :D ** | |
| [07:28:00] | jroberts_235: | hehe |
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| [07:29:00] | jroberts_235: | gamepad is a great idea! |
| [07:29:00] | Flamie: | it sure is, get one with many buttons thought. |
| [07:29:00] | Flamie: | I still complain about 12 not being enough to control all I want in mplayer :/ |
| [07:29:00] | Flamie: | (Using a PS2 pad) |
| [07:29:00] | ShockValue: | and the dogs tripping over the cord would bug me |
| [07:30:00] | Flamie: | get a wireless gamepad? =) |
| [07:30:00] | ** ShockValue whines about his rc16 not working ** | |
| [07:31:00] | jroberts_235: | good one! |
| [07:31:00] | jroberts_235: | was is easy to configure to work with myth? |
| [07:32:00] | Flamie: | yeah, there is a file where you write the mappings |
| [07:32:00] | Flamie: | JBUTTON1 = enter |
| [07:32:00] | Flamie: | and so on |
| [07:32:00] | jroberts_235: | where did you find info on how to do it? |
| [07:32:00] | Flamie: | |
| [07:33:00] | Flamie: | >_< |
| [07:33:00] | jroberts_235: | ok |
| [07:33:00] | Flamie: | frankly I use to read the myth-howto for gentoo, then adapt with info from google |
| [07:33:00] | Flamie: | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV |
| [07:34:00] | Flamie: | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV#Joystick_control <- to be exact |
| [07:35:00] | jroberts_235: | bitchin' thnx |
| [07:36:00] | ShockValue: | hmm.. these spicy hot peanuts i bought are pretty good |
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| [07:38:00] | ShockValue: | im currently running 0.17.. tempted to upgrade to 0.18... but im affraid to break it and make the wife cranky :) |
| [07:40:00] | Flamie: | Shock, hang on and wait a month or two more |
| [07:40:00] | Flamie: | 0.19 is coming out the door |
| [07:41:00] | jroberts_235: | My hauppauge has a fm radio tuner in it, does myth have radio module? |
| [07:41:00] | Flamie: | and it seems they made a couple of smart things for it, like separating the input/control out of the modules, rewriting live-tv and lots of updates to mythgame :) |
| [07:43:00] | kwatz: | hey Flamie, if you're curious...the problem I was having the other night with the nvidia drivers was solved by not compiling nvidia framebuffer drivers into the kernel |
| [07:43:00] | Flamie: | oki, good you got it going |
| [07:44:00] | Flamie: | when I'm going to build my next mythbox I'll get a pvr-350 with tv-out so I don't need nvidia :) |
| [07:45:00] | kwatz: | :) |
| [07:45:00] | Flamie: | or maybe a DiGiMatrix, thos look so awfully nice! |
| [07:46:00] | Flamie: | kwatz: you've seen a digimatrix? |
| [07:46:00] | Flamie: | it's the most gorgeus thing I ever seen, check the images out: http://www.cappuccinopc.com/dg1.asp |
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| [07:49:00] | jroberts_235: | f-in cool! |
| [07:50:00] | jroberts_235: | price isn't bad either... |
| [07:50:00] | Flamie: | it runs hot if you'd like transcode movies or rip dvd's though |
| [07:51:00] | Flamie: | but it got all the USB you need, a remote, tv in/out and so on so forth :) |
| [07:51:00] | Flamie: | even a nice display you can control |
| [07:51:00] | jroberts_235: | it's small |
| [07:51:00] | Flamie: | yeah, fits any living room |
| [07:52:00] | jroberts_235: | hence the cooling issues. |
| [07:52:00] | Flamie: | mm.. |
| [07:52:00] | Flamie: | maybe running the cpu on a lower frequency than it was designed for? |
| [07:52:00] | jroberts_235: | could be |
| [07:53:00] | Flamie: | my only prob with it is that I would pay for tv-in and lots of stuff I don't need for my frontend |
| [07:53:00] | Flamie: | like a harddrive :) |
| [07:54:00] | jroberts_235: | right. |
| [07:54:00] | jroberts_235: | but the price isn't so much that would bother me to much. |
| [07:55:00] | Flamie: | you live in the US right? >_< |
| [07:55:00] | jroberts_235: | yeah |
| [07:55:00] | jroberts_235: | why? |
| [07:55:00] | Flamie: | more difficult for me to get a good price, live in sweden |
| [07:56:00] | jroberts_235: | oic |
| [07:56:00] | Flamie: | but that's not a real issue, I'm broke anyway :D |
| [07:56:00] | ShockValue: | lol, thats handy... put in "adult" in mythweb as the category to search for... |
| [07:57:00] | ShockValue: | no wonder i need a smaller remote! ;) |
| [07:57:00] | jroberts_235: | Flamie: I hear you... |
| [07:58:00] | jroberts_235: | What about filesystems? HFS, Reiser? |
| [07:58:00] | jroberts_235: | other? |
| [07:59:00] | Flamie: | I use reiser |
| [07:59:00] | Flamie: | and I would love to use v4 |
| [07:59:00] | Flamie: | but the kernel-guys don't seem to like hans reiser, so so far it's been stalled |
| [07:59:00] | Flamie: | no reiser4 for me :/ |
| [07:59:00] | jroberts_235: | why do you like resier? |
| [07:59:00] | jroberts_235: | or, what do you like about it? |
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| [08:00:00] | ShockValue: | i found reiser to be a pain... its fast mostly, but for deleting files it takes FOREVER |
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| [08:00:00] | Flamie: | well, it just seem to be so well made |
| [08:00:00] | Flamie: | and quite speedy |
| [08:01:00] | ShockValue: | so i use XFS.. almost as fast as reiser, and very fast deleting |
| [08:01:00] | Flamie: | when reiser4 ha gotten som testing it will be the most stable, as well as the fastest vfs out there |
| [08:01:00] | Flamie: | (at least as far as I know) |
| [08:01:00] | jroberts_235: | I guess when the files are 4G+, dleting time is an issue. |
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| [08:02:00] | poonj: | hey guys...anyone here have a pcHDTV 3000? |
| [08:02:00] | Flamie: | uhm.. deleting time is based upon amount of files, not filesizes |
| [08:02:00] | jroberts_235: | ok |
| [08:02:00] | poonj: | for some reason, I can't tune to anymore channels over the air |
| [08:02:00] | Flamie: | as they're just removing the filename and start position, so that the filesystem believes the files space is now empty |
| [08:02:00] | poonj: | it was working 2 weeks ago, but now I can't get any stations through my antenna |
| [08:02:00] | ShockValue: | Flamie: you sure about that? I recall it took a very long time when i deleted one show |
| [08:03:00] | Flamie: | ShockValue: I never had any speed issue |
| [08:03:00] | jroberts_235: | Oh, right. I knew that... been that way since DOS. duh... |
| [08:03:00] | ** ShockValue shrygs ** | |
| [08:03:00] | ShockValue: | guess it was just me then |
| [08:03:00] | Flamie: | I did have stability issue half a year ago or so though.. :/ |
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| [08:11:00] | jroberts_235: | thanks for all the dialog... heading to bed. |
| [08:11:00] | jroberts_235: | I'll check back here and let you know how it goes. |
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| [08:24:00] | akjohn: | so anyone around? |
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| [08:27:00] | fastDude: | hi! |
| [08:27:00] | akjohn: | hi |
| [08:28:00] | ShockValue: | kinda |
| [08:28:00] | akjohn: | know anything about changing channels on a set top? ;) |
| [08:28:00] | fastDude: | so I wanted to get a Tivo, and my friend told me (who is a computer science student) to look up myth tv and I cam here |
| [08:29:00] | akjohn: | well I'm 90% to a mythtv setup and it seems pretty nice |
| [08:29:00] | fastDude: | hm |
| [08:29:00] | akjohn: | if you don't like to tinker though, buy a tivo. I've got about 20 hours invested so far |
| [08:29:00] | fastDude: | where do I "buy" it |
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| [08:30:00] | MertleHaggis: | HI! |
| [08:30:00] | akjohn: | you'll need a spare computer with a tv-capture card... then you can download and install linux then mythtv... |
| [08:30:00] | fastDude: | ok |
| [08:30:00] | fastDude: | I'll go purchase these requirements |
| [08:30:00] | fastDude: | where? |
| [08:30:00] | ShockValue: | yeah, mythtv is a project, at least to get it running |
| [08:31:00] | ShockValue: | once its up and running, its pretty stable though |
| [08:31:00] | ShockValue: | unless you tinker with it to death like i do :) |
| [08:31:00] | fastDude: | lol, why not just burn it onto a cd, and install it? |
| [08:31:00] | ShockValue: | you ever installed linux? |
| [08:32:00] | fastDude: | ? |
| [08:32:00] | MertleHaggis: | linux? |
| [08:32:00] | ShockValue: | yeah, mythtv runs on linux... |
| [08:32:00] | MertleHaggis: | oh like redhat |
| [08:32:00] | fastDude: | hmm |
| [08:33:00] | fastDude: | well my friend has redhat (UNIX), and he told me it's better than windows (enviroment) |
| [08:33:00] | MertleHaggis: | yah i run (UNIX) aka linux. |
| [08:33:00] | fastDude: | but he told me to get myth tv, so I come here and purchase requirements |
| [08:33:00] | ShockValue: | ok, yeah well, if you dont even know what linux really is, then I would get a tivo :) |
| [08:33:00] | fastDude: | hm |
| [08:34:00] | MertleHaggis: | does it run well on gentoo linux? |
| [08:34:00] | fastDude: | but my friend (WHO IS A COMPUTER SCIENCE STUDENT), told me that Tivo is not good, and I need this myth |
| [08:34:00] | ShockValue: | fastDude: is your friend (WHO IS A COMPUTER SCIENCE STUDENT) going to set it up for you and maintian it? |
| [08:34:00] | fastDude: | ? |
| [08:34:00] | ShockValue: | MertleHaggis: i run it on gentoo.. works fine |
| [08:35:00] | MertleHaggis: | gentoo is a wonderful flavor of linux AKA FreeBSD |
| [08:36:00] | ShockValue: | fastDude: read some of the documentation.. if it makes sense to you, then go for it: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html#ss3.2 |
| [08:36:00] | fastDude: | he told me to get it, I saw him the other day I flew in from "hometown" and he told me to get it and not tivo |
| [08:36:00] | ShockValue: | MertleHaggis: I wouldnt go so far as "AKA".. it has similarities.. |
| [08:37:00] | fastDude: | i want to learn from him, so I don't understand and he told me to get myth tv, not tivo |
| [08:37:00] | akjohn: | get tivo |
| [08:37:00] | fastDude: | hm |
| [08:37:00] | ShockValue: | fastDude: seriously, read the documentation.. if it makes sense to you, then do it. |
| [08:37:00] | akjohn: | I have a degree in computer science and it's taken me a week to get it up and running |
| [08:37:00] | MertleHaggis: | i dont like the "BLOOIP" noice on tivo |
| [08:38:00] | akjohn: | and I still don't have everything working |
| [08:38:00] | MertleHaggis: | a whole week? |
| [08:38:00] | fastDude: | hm |
| [08:38:00] | ShockValue: | fastDude: but if you find the documentation confusing, then you'll be lost setting it up |
| [08:38:00] | akjohn: | well every night for a week |
| [08:38:00] | fastDude: | so how do I do it then? |
| [08:39:00] | MertleHaggis: | and you have a degree? |
| [08:39:00] | akjohn: | I have a degree |
| [08:39:00] | MertleHaggis: | WOW |
| [08:39:00] | fastDude: | my friend has a degree |
| [08:39:00] | akjohn: | most of the time was spent trying to get my ir blaster working though |
| [08:39:00] | MertleHaggis: | it must be veery confusing documentation. |
| [08:39:00] | akjohn: | the actual linux and mythtv install went pretty smooth... |
| [08:39:00] | akjohn: | I was just trying to get something working thats new and not many ppl have done it |
| [08:40:00] | fastDude: | well my friend (the student) said that I could do it, and to come here and it is easy |
| [08:40:00] | fastDude: | perhaps since you've set it up in the time span of a whole week, that you could help? |
| [08:40:00] | MertleHaggis: | yah my friend the (highschool droppout) said he got it up and running in 2 days. |
| [08:41:00] | akjohn: | I had it running in more or less 1 night |
| [08:41:00] | akjohn: | If I wasn't too cheap to buy a supported IR blaster for $15, that would have been the end of it |
| [08:41:00] | akjohn: | do you have digital cable or satellite? |
| [08:41:00] | ShockValue: | well maybe im just retarded, but it took me a few weeks (nights and weekends) to get it running the way I wanted and stable :) |
| [08:42:00] | fastDude: | I have a sound blaster card in my computer, that is similar to the ir blaster i believe in some respect |
| [08:42:00] | MertleHaggis: | what type of video card? |
| [08:43:00] | akjohn: | shockvalue, are you using an ir blaster at all? |
| [08:43:00] | fastDude: | my video card is on the soundblaster |
| [08:43:00] | MertleHaggis: | thats a nice one. |
| [08:43:00] | akjohn: | I have some old nvidia card with tv-out |
| [08:43:00] | ShockValue: | akjohn: not a blaster, got a cable that goes to my directv box via serial |
| [08:43:00] | ShockValue: | that took quite a bit of screwing around to get to work right ;) |
| [08:44:00] | fastDude: | hahahahahahaha |
| [08:44:00] | MertleHaggis: | i bet it did! |
| [08:45:00] | fastDude: | hmmm |
| [08:45:00] | fastDude: | so tell me of your adventures purchasing mythtv for my own experience |
| [08:46:00] | ** ShockValue thinks fastDude is the dev of mythv, just drunk and probing for info anonymously ** | |
| [08:46:00] | MertleHaggis: | well, i watched my friend set up his mythtv |
| [08:46:00] | MertleHaggis: | he had a lot of problems with the technical support team |
| [08:47:00] | fastDude: | ? |
| [08:47:00] | MertleHaggis: | yah. |
| [08:47:00] | fastDude: | team? |
| [08:47:00] | fastDude: | how many teams? |
| [08:47:00] | MertleHaggis: | well so to speak. |
| [08:47:00] | MertleHaggis: | i think it was two rival teams. |
| [08:47:00] | fastDude: | please tell more |
| [08:48:00] | MertleHaggis: | you know like futball |
| [08:48:00] | fastDude: | hahahahahahahahahahaha |
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| [08:48:00] | fastDude: | i think you mean "soccer" |
| [08:48:00] | MertleHaggis: | but..they kept giving him the wrong instructions |
| [08:48:00] | MertleHaggis: | yes you in the states call it 'soccer' |
| [08:48:00] | fastDude: | everybody knows little childrens play football |
| [08:48:00] | fastDude: | WE call it football, is not the footballs we know |
| [08:48:00] | MertleHaggis: | we call it futball here in france |
| [08:49:00] | fastDude: | hm |
| [08:49:00] | MertleHaggis: | same thing though. |
| [08:49:00] | laga: | MertleHaggis: what's your friend's name? deepdelver? |
| [08:49:00] | MertleHaggis: | no its deletremble |
| [08:50:00] | laga: | oh, never heard of him, i think |
| [08:50:00] | fastDude: | do you think that American Football is for pansies? |
| [08:50:00] | MertleHaggis: | yes. |
| [08:50:00] | fastDude: | HAHAHA, in my country we laugh |
| [08:50:00] | MertleHaggis: | we how do you say. |
| [08:50:00] | MertleHaggis: | rugby is for mans sports. |
| [08:51:00] | fastDude: | yes we have rugby too |
| [08:51:00] | fastDude: | it is played by the women, and the elderly |
| [08:51:00] | MertleHaggis: | fat women, and your old folk are without teeth. |
| [08:52:00] | MertleHaggis: | but if i may continue. |
| [08:52:00] | fastDude: | |
| [08:52:00] | fastDude: | please, my women are beautiful |
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| [08:52:00] | fastDude: | your mother is a prostitute |
| [08:52:00] | MertleHaggis: | you american computer systems are very lacking. |
| [08:53:00] | laga: | ugh |
| [08:53:00] | laga: | play nice kids ;) |
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| [08:53:00] | fastDude: | I am not an "AMERICAN" USA A OK! |
| [08:53:00] | MertleHaggis: | i do not believe that you may run mythtv efficientally |
| [08:53:00] | MertleHaggis: | or how you say |
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| [08:53:00] | fastDude was kicked from #mythtv-users by Chutt | |
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| [08:53:00] | MertleHaggis was kicked from #mythtv-users by Chutt | |
| [08:53:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [08:54:00] | Chutt: | sorry, was playing games else i'dve done that earlier. |
| [08:55:00] | laga: | no problem ;) |
| [08:55:00] | Flamie: | ShockValue: just to tell you you're not the worst, I took ~4 weeks to set it up and get the darn thing work :) |
| [08:55:00] | laga: | Flamie: 6 months. |
| [08:56:00] | Flamie: | laga: we're you really working every day on it for 6 months? |
| [08:56:00] | Flamie: | i not, I took 3 months |
| [08:56:00] | Flamie: | (the time since I first decided to do it, and things worked as expect) |
| [08:56:00] | ShockValue: | im still searching for a good remote control |
| [08:57:00] | yarddog: | tomorrow i will follow the directions from http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php , any suggestions on this? |
| [08:57:00] | Flamie: | ShockValue: get a wireless gamepad :) |
| [08:57:00] | ShockValue: | so does that make it an ongoing project? :) |
| [08:57:00] | Flamie: | ShockValue: maybe, if so I still got stuff to get going, like xmame |
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| [08:57:00] | ShockValue: | yarddog: follow it.. its probably the best guide out there |
| [08:57:00] | akjohn: | I had good luck with the wilsonet directions |
| [08:57:00] | yarddog: | ok, thx |
| [08:57:00] | Flamie: | well, I'm gonna go buy breakfast now (08:57 over here), see you all later |
| [08:57:00] | laga: | Flamie: hehe, no, not every day, of course, but almost every weekend. my problems were almost all related to shitty hardware. |
| [08:57:00] | akjohn: | anyone know anything about external change channel command? |
| [08:58:00] | ShockValue: | im gonna go watch a myth-tv recorded program and pass out :) 12AM here |
| [08:58:00] | Flamie: | akjohn, hang on a moment |
| [09:00:00] | Flamie: | akjohn: "There isn't a good way to work "natively" with digital cable. The least unattractive option is to use a set-top box for decryption and feed the video stream to a capture card. At this point, though, the only capture cards you can buy are standard definition. You'll also need to use an IR blaster to send channel changing commands to the set-top box." quoted from: http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/2005/06/22/myt |
| [09:00:00] | Flamie: | laga: a leadtek tvcard? |
| [09:00:00] | akjohn: | flamie: yeah, I have a blaster, and therein lies my problem |
| [09:00:00] | laga: | Flamie: no, some el cheap bttv crap. what, that's almost the same... |
| [09:01:00] | akjohn: | flamie: I can send commands via the blaster to the cable box with a shell script, but when I tell myth to use that script as an external change channel command, it doesn't |
| [09:01:00] | Flamie: | wierd |
| [09:01:00] | akjohn: | flamie: it acts like I didn't tell it a change channel command at all and procedes to change the tuner channel on my pvr card |
| [09:02:00] | Flamie: | well, breakfast it was |
| [09:02:00] | Flamie: | see ya :) |
| [09:02:00] | akjohn: | top o the morning to ya ;) |
| [09:02:00] | Flamie: | (sorry john, don't know what to do except for googling :) |
| [09:02:00] | laga: | oh my god oh my god oh my god. channel changing in livetv is so fast now. |
| [09:02:00] | akjohn: | fast? |
| [09:02:00] | akjohn: | it's slow as hell for me :( |
| [09:03:00] | akjohn: | thats my biggest gripe, 5 seconds to change a channel |
| [09:03:00] | laga: | akjohn: hehe. sorry, i've just installed the development version from SVN and it works fine ;) |
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| [09:03:00] | laga: | akjohn: the next release should be much faster |
| [09:03:00] | akjohn: | laga: sweet, can't wait |
| [09:03:00] | laga: | akjohn: :) |
| [09:03:00] | akjohn: | that and my lame blaster problem and I'm set :) |
| [09:06:00] | laga: | i think it's 1–2secs now. |
| [09:06:00] | laga: | ok, afk. gotta get ready. |
| [09:10:00] | akjohn: | nice |
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| [09:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | anybody have any ideas what would cause mythfrontend to all the sudden decide to throw a black border around everything? |
| [09:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | When I play recordings they are in a box so to speak |
| [09:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its kinda annoying please help |
| [09:36:00] | Flamie: | SlicerDicer-: make sure you've set the correct display size on your screen/tv in X configuration |
| [09:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well the odd part is... |
| [09:36:00] | Flamie: | there should be a button to switch aspect ratio in myth as well,"m" I think |
| [09:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I look at say for instance Lost.... |
| [09:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | the little preview window thing |
| [09:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it shows it filling the preview window |
| [09:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but for Crimson Tide it is in a box? |
| [09:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | is that the recording screwing up? |
| [09:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | live tv is in a box too |
| [09:37:00] | Flamie: | could be 2 problem as far as I can understand: |
| [09:37:00] | Flamie: | 1. your myth do not know what displaysize your have |
| [09:38:00] | Flamie: | 2. the show was sent with borders to accomodate for widescreen on 4:3 TV's or vice versa |
| [09:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | let me check all my frontends |
| [09:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have many |
| [09:38:00] | Flamie: | easiest to check is just to find the displaysize line in your xorg.conf and make sure it's set to values that corresponds to your screen/tv |
| [09:39:00] | SlicerDicer: | well shit I just killed SlicerDicer- |
| [09:41:00] | SlicerDicer: | well I just recently changed my aspect ratio in myth |
| [09:41:00] | SlicerDicer: | from 480x480 to 720x480 |
| [09:41:00] | SlicerDicer: | but Lost was recorded with that new aspect ratio without issue |
| [09:42:00] | SlicerDicer: | Flamie: some videos play at proper rate some dont but any "new" recordings have gone absolutly stupid |
| [09:42:00] | SlicerDicer: | since lost was recorded anyway |
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| [09:42:00] | Flamie: | well |
| [09:42:00] | Flamie: | the resolution of the recording isn't the important setting |
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| [09:42:00] | Flamie: | it's how myth is syupposed to display it |
| [09:43:00] | Flamie: | I for example have a 16:9 TV, and a 4:3 resolution for my display (1024x768 on my tv-out) |
| [09:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | correct |
| [09:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | btw my main box is back hehe |
| [09:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | if I press "w" while watching tv it does nothing |
| [09:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I try to set the aspect to fill |
| [09:43:00] | Flamie: | and by setting displaysize to a 16:9 ratio it displays movies in the correct aspect ratios |
| [09:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | If I set it to 4:3 it does nothing |
| [09:44:00] | Flamie: | oki, a few questions: |
| [09:44:00] | Flamie: | are you using tv-out? |
| [09:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well it dont really matter if I use that or not |
| [09:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I mean this computer is a frontend |
| [09:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | along with the one setting next to me |
| [09:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | along with my mac and 2 tvs :) |
| [09:44:00] | Flamie: | oki, are the screen you're displaying it on a 4:3 screen or a 16:9? |
| [09:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | they all do the same thing |
| [09:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its a mix |
| [09:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | one is a apple cinema display but that should not matter |
| [09:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it dont do it properly either |
| [09:45:00] | Flamie: | hmm.. |
| [09:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its weird |
| [09:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | do some channels do that? |
| [09:46:00] | Flamie: | well, either way it _should_ work as long as you're in recording in the same resolution / aspect as you're tv-in gives you and then displays it on frontends that _do know_ what displaysizes their screens are using |
| [09:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | make it so its in a box |
| [09:47:00] | Flamie: | some channels add black border to top & bottom to fit widescreen-content in 4:3 screens |
| [09:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its on all 4 sides |
| [09:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | not letterbox hehe |
| [09:47:00] | Flamie: | then that 4:3 video stream displayed on a 16:9 tv will get black borders on left & right to fit the 4:3 stream |
| [09:47:00] | Flamie: | thus borders on all 4 sides |
| [09:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hmm |
| [09:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | maybe I was recording the hdtv channel? |
| [09:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but pvr350 cant pick that up can it? |
| [09:48:00] | Flamie: | I think it can't |
| [09:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am about |
| [09:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | to find out |
| [09:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | channel 533 is what I recorded |
| [09:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | blah |
| [09:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | 533 is messed up |
| [09:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | starz but starzw is not :/ |
| [09:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh well its just some channels |
| [09:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I guess I cant do anything about it |
| [09:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | sorry to bother ya Flamie |
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| [09:53:00] | Flamie: | np |
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| [09:53:00] | Atamido_: | Bah. |
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| [12:41:00] | CanadaBoy: | anyone have any ideas for a good frontend ... |
| [12:44:00] | CanadaBoy: | barebones, shuttel, xbox. itx ? |
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| [12:46:00] | Juski: | is it Saturday already? sheesh |
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| [12:46:00] | rsdvd: | can anyone recommend what the minimum memory required is for a frontend? |
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| [12:51:00] | Juski: | rsdvd... HD or not HD? |
| [12:51:00] | rsdvd: | No....Standard Def....I am in th UK |
| [12:52:00] | Juski: | you can get away with as little as 256MB, but it could be a little sluggish. A comfortable minimum is 512MB |
| [12:52:00] | Juski: | BTW PC World have 512MB PC3200 RAM on special offer this weekend for £28.99, though you'll need a voucher from their newspaper adverts |
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| [12:53:00] | Juski: | I'm no advocate of PC World, but that's gotta be the cheapest RAM in the UK.. and it has a 10 year warranty (?!) |
| [12:54:00] | rsdvd: | shame I have not got the voucher....I am about to place an order on mini-itx for an EPIA M10k.......do you have any experience with them? |
| [12:55:00] | Juski: | rsdvd.. we've talked about this the other night |
| [12:56:00] | rsdvd: | LOL...so we did! I thought it was you.........but I couldn;t rememebr your nick |
| [12:56:00] | Juski: | rsdvd... pick up one of today's newspapers.. there's bound to be an ad in at least one of them ;) |
| [12:57:00] | Juski: | btw – you have a choice for the IR receiver... do you want it with a connector on to plug straight into the motherboard or just a normal serial plug? |
| [12:57:00] | CanadaBoy: | 512 for a frontend? |
| [12:58:00] | rsdvd: | one will be going on this new M10k...so I don;t know if it has a header on the board or not |
| [12:58:00] | CanadaBoy: | that sounds high |
| [12:58:00] | rsdvd: | CanadaBoy..........do you think it should be less? |
| [12:59:00] | CanadaBoy: | well i have 512 on my backaned w/ frontend and its great |
| [12:59:00] | CanadaBoy: | i would have said 256 |
| [13:00:00] | CanadaBoy: | im trying t decind on another frontend now ... |
| [13:00:00] | CanadaBoy: | barebones, shuttel, xbox. itx, etc |
| [13:00:00] | rsdvd: | I have to admit.....I thought it sounded a bit high. all my recordings are from PVR/DVB so they wil lbe in MPEG2.......I woudl have thought it could get away with less |
| [13:01:00] | Juski: | ahhh JUST for a frontend... that's a different matter lol |
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| [13:01:00] | CanadaBoy: | lol |
| [13:02:00] | CanadaBoy: | im trying to find someone that has an xbox myth |
| [13:02:00] | rsdvd: | I am not suer what I will end up having on it........but I will have a 2 separate backends |
| [13:02:00] | Juski: | I run XBMC with the mythtv python scripts, CanadaBoy |
| [13:02:00] | CanadaBoy: | Juski: ya i thought about that ... but i want the frontend to have the exact same gui |
| [13:03:00] | Juski: | makes a very nice frontend.. I can go from powered down to watching recordings in 30 seconds |
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| [13:03:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | hello |
| [13:03:00] | Juski: | CanadaBoy – a long boot time is a big price to pay for having the same GUI ;) |
| [13:03:00] | rsdvd: | Juski....which paper did you see the advert in? |
| [13:03:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | briand |
| [13:03:00] | Juski: | The Times... but they're bound to have ads in all the tabloids today |
| [13:04:00] | CanadaBoy: | too bad no ones made gui mods to xbmc |
| [13:04:00] | Juski: | it's easy enough to do, CanadaBoy |
| [13:04:00] | Juski: | just xml files |
| [13:04:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | could somebody explane me somethign ? |
| [13:04:00] | Juski: | I think it'd be nice if they did it the other way round – I prefer XBMC's GUI lol |
| [13:04:00] | CanadaBoy: | lol |
| [13:05:00] | Juski: | especially Project Mayhem 3... phwoar |
| [13:05:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | god damn |
| [13:05:00] | rsdvd: | Have any of you every used the Hauppague MediaMVP as a frontend? |
| [13:05:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | people |
| [13:05:00] | CanadaBoy: | awk i still need to decide on a frontend |
| [13:05:00] | Juski: | but the mythtv GUI is under massive amounts of reconstruction right now which will open the door for a lot more eye candy |
| [13:06:00] | Juski: | Oliver... WHAT? |
| [13:06:00] | Juski: | just ask the question man |
| [13:06:00] | CanadaBoy: | a quick boot time would be sweet ... |
| [13:06:00] | laga: | Juski: the transition to libmythui will happen *after* the 0.19 release, according to trac |
| [13:07:00] | CanadaBoy: | i think i'll put it in a shuttle box mabey |
| [13:07:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | look this error which I get ALL THE TIME , after all configuration done, allways same error : |
| [13:07:00] | Juski: | laga: hiya! Well it was never gonna happen overnight was it... there's a lot of work to do there |
| [13:07:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | 2005-10–01 13:01:08.753 No error type from QSqlError? Strange... |
| [13:07:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | 2005-10–01 13:01:08.753 Database not open while trying to load setting: Language |
| [13:07:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | 2005-10–01 13:01:08.752 Unable to connect to database! |
| [13:07:00] | Juski: | is mysql running? |
| [13:08:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | But I set alll like in HOWTO manuel |
| [13:08:00] | laga: | Juski: of course :). but i'm think it will be great |
| [13:08:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | Running |
| [13:08:00] | laga: | Oliver-BeograD: please use pastebin.ca the next time instead of flooding the channel |
| [13:09:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:3306 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 5309/mysqld |
| [13:09:00] | Juski: | Oliver-BeograD: where do you get the error? |
| [13:09:00] | Juski: | in mythtv-setup? |
| [13:09:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | When I type in konsole : mythtv-setup |
| [13:09:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | yes |
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| [13:10:00] | Juski: | might not even be a MYSQL error.. could be something to do with QT |
| [13:11:00] | Juski: | CanadaBoy.. be careful of them shuttle barebones.. some aren't very quiet |
| [13:12:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | juski , but what should I do |
| [13:12:00] | Juski: | rsdvd.. frontend capability of the MVP is limited right now... there's only so much its hardware can do (such as it can only decode MPEG1 & MPEG2) |
| [13:13:00] | Juski: | well, some more information would help... such as what versions of packages you're running.. which Mysql & which QT etc |
| [13:13:00] | rsdvd: | |
| [13:14:00] | Juski: | watch recordings, and live tv... it probably can, but don't pay £50 for it.. it sporadically appears for around £30 or less, rsdvd |
| [13:15:00] | rsdvd: | ok! any ideas wher e I can get it that cheap? |
| [13:15:00] | Skaface: | hello (if i'm allowed to say that in here) |
| [13:15:00] | Juski: | I've seen it at www.scan.co.uk that cheap, and also (eek) at PC World |
| [13:15:00] | Juski: | good grief.. what kind of image does this channel have where folks are afraid to say 'hello'? lol |
| [13:15:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | juski : Your MySQL connection id is 14 to server version: 4.0.24_Debian-10-log |
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| [13:16:00] | Juski: | Oliver-BeograD: what I mean is... have you installed stable packages as opposed to 'bleeding' edge ones? |
| [13:17:00] | Juski: | rsdvd – expect the price to drop when the wireless version comes out ;) |
| [13:18:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | Juski : I installed packages from my Debian 3.1r0a Sarge Stable distro |
| [13:19:00] | rsdvd: | Juski ....... is that liekly to be soon? |
| [13:19:00] | Juski: | rsdvd... possibly |
| [13:20:00] | Juski: | getting one working with mythtv can be a bit of a job though... from what I've read of the docs it looks quite involved, rsdvd |
| [13:21:00] | rsdvd: | :-( not good! I have had a world of pain getting the backend to work! I seemed to be cursed when it came to myth installs |
| [13:21:00] | Juski: | Oliver-BeograD: talk us through the error... you start mythtv-setup and get the error right away or what? |
| [13:22:00] | Juski: | rsdvd... sorry to say this but getting mythtv working really isn't that hard. One thing I'll say is that knoppmyth isn't the magic bullet a lot of people assume it is ;) |
| [13:22:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | Juski , I start mythtv-setup , and some windows opens in full screan mode , and I set password , user name , database etc. than I ckick NEXT and i get some screen than I click finish, and MYTHTV exit eith that error |
| [13:23:00] | rsdvd: | i used FC4 and the problems were not myth related.....it was getting my Nova-T DVB to play nicely with the ivtv drivers (for my PVR-150)........in the end Igave up and I am going to have 2 backends |
| [13:24:00] | Juski: | rsdvd.. the Nova-T should want nothing to do with ivtv... there are plenty of people with mixed capture cards like that |
| [13:25:00] | rsdvd: | so I keep being told......but when you install the Ivtv drivers they killed some of the kernel modules that the DVb was using.......not sure how to get ythem both working without intefering with each otheres modules |
| [13:25:00] | Juski: | Oliver-BeograD: I very much suspect there's a package incompatability issue going on there.. maybe the version of QT you have doesn't like talking to the version of MYSQL you have... |
| [13:26:00] | Juski: | rsdvd.. that would have been the I2C kernel module(s).. I think I've read something about making them more independent |
| [13:26:00] | rsdvd: | also other modules.....they both use tveeprom.....but differnt versions |
| [13:27:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | Juski , but how to find out whic version is compatible ? |
| [13:28:00] | Juski: | Oliver-BeograD: I don't know, but you could try rolling them back to previous versions & see what happens |
| [13:28:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | Ok, I will try, THANKS |
| [13:38:00] | ** Juski is off to watch some mythtv and to have a nice big bacon sandwich :P ** | |
| [13:38:00] | laga: | Juski: word |
| [13:48:00] | jhoke: | morning |
| [13:50:00] | Skaface: | has anyone here fooled around with mencoder on a cluster? |
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| [14:14:00] | Eire: | does anyone have a problem on KnoppMyth that they cant access Mythweb it says Fatal Error at /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/includes/programs.php, line 107 |
| [14:16:00] | PaulWay: | Sorry, Eire, no. |
| [14:16:00] | PaulWay: | I've used mythweb recently and it doesn't do this. |
| [14:16:00] | PaulWay: | I'm using a Fedora Core 4 setup, though. |
| [14:17:00] | Eire: | thanks, it doesn't help that i'm a complete noob on this and linux, thanks anyways |
| [14:17:00] | PaulWay: | Hey, don't worry about that. |
| [14:18:00] | Eire: | also i cant seem to access my XF86Config-4 file its not in /etc/x11/ is there anywhere else it can be |
| [14:19:00] | PaulWay: | Ah, you need to remember that unix is filename case sensitive. /etc/X11 |
| [14:19:00] | Eire: | i'll try that then thanks |
| [14:19:00] | PaulWay: | I've just looked at the PHP file in question, and that basically triggers an error if the PHP code tries to load all the program data with an empty Channels array, for what its worth. |
| [14:19:00] | PaulWay: | Have you any channels? |
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| [14:20:00] | Eire: | i thaught i set one up at the beginning, have a sky digital box so only one incoming channel |
| [14:21:00] | PaulWay: | Hmmmm. |
| [14:23:00] | PaulWay: | My original thought was that they way to set that up would be to have each channel programmed in and getting program info, and then use an IR blaster to change the channels on the sky digital box. |
| [14:23:00] | PaulWay: | Where are you? |
| [14:23:00] | Eire: | ireland |
| [14:23:00] | PaulWay: | But then I realised that maybe MythTV doesn't handle having a device that it can't physically change the channels on. |
| [14:23:00] | PaulWay: | How do you cope with multiple channels at the moment? |
| [14:24:00] | Eire: | i'm just setting it up so myth is not doing anything, except sitting pretty of course |
| [14:24:00] | dev-: | i really need to set that up with my digital cable box. just to say ive done it |
| [14:24:00] | dev-: | people ask alot of questions about it, supposedly its easy |
| [14:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | PaulWay: What you do is configure myt to call an external app/script which somehow changes the channel. |
| [14:25:00] | PaulWay: | *shrugs* I've got two DVB cards, so MythTV does all the switching from there. |
| [14:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | Often through an IR blaster which sends the IR signals to the device |
| [14:25:00] | PaulWay: | Aaaaaah, GreyFoxx, clever. |
| [14:25:00] | PaulWay: | I've seen stuff on IR blasters but never had to really think about it. |
| [14:26:00] | PaulWay: | OTOH, if I could get my IR remote controls to work then it'd be even better. |
| [14:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | I put one together once with $10 of parts from rdio shack |
| [14:26:00] | PaulWay: | I knew they weren't difficult. |
| [14:26:00] | PaulWay: | Eire, sorry, I should have guessed where you were from :-) |
| [14:27:00] | Eire: | no problems actually lunch time here so thanks for your time |
| [14:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | MmmLunch sounds good. |
| [14:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | Thought right now it would be more like breakfast or brunch here :) |
| [14:28:00] | PaulWay: | No worries – it's 10:30PM here in Australia so I'll be off to bed soon. |
| [14:29:00] | PaulWay: | GreyFoxx, east coast USA? |
| [14:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Not USA :) |
| [14:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | But yes, East coast :) |
| [14:30:00] | PaulWay: | Brazil? Can't be in Europe or Africa... |
| [14:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | Uhhh, Canada |
| [14:31:00] | PaulWay: | BTW, Eire, there's good help if you google on 'mythtv ir blaster sky digital' |
| [14:31:00] | PaulWay: | Ah, of course, which reaches further east. |
| [14:31:00] | PaulWay: | How stupid of me! |
| [14:31:00] | ** PaulWay slaps forehead ** | |
| [14:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | :) |
| [14:32:00] | PaulWay: | Eire: http://losdos.dyndns.org:8080/public/mythtv-i . . . ed_LIRC.html |
| [14:34:00] | PaulWay: | There's even a guy who's got dual sky digital tuners at http://forum.byopvr.com/dvr/index.php/topic,3461.0.html |
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| [14:37:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | sorry, what does this mean : morke@debian:~$ mysql ; ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'morke@localhost' (Using password: NO) ; morke@debian:~$ mysql -u root ; ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO) ; morke@debian:~$ |
| [14:38:00] | PaulWay: | Eire, there's also a guy in the UK who's built a USB box that will control one or two Sky Digital boxes remotely via RF input (somehow): http://www.heenan.me.uk/control-sky-from-pc/ |
| [14:38:00] | PaulWay: | Oliver-BeograD, it means you can't log into your mysql database. |
| [14:38:00] | PaulWay: | Probably because you need a password for root access to it. |
| [14:38:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | I now, but how to log in ? |
| [14:38:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | OK |
| [14:39:00] | PaulWay: | Do 'mysql -u root -p mysql' |
| [14:39:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | I type : mysql -u root -p |
| [14:39:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | ok |
| [14:39:00] | PaulWay: | It'll prompt you for a password. |
| [14:39:00] | rsdvd: | has anyone ever seen this error when building ivtv : Module /lib/modules/2.6.13.2/kernel/drivers/media/video/tda9887.ko conflicts with the ivtv module of the same name — please hide or delete it. |
| [14:40:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | ok, I done that PaulWay , but MYTHTV wont log in sql |
| [14:40:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | It promp some error |
| [14:40:00] | PaulWay: | no, sorry, rsdvd. |
| [14:40:00] | Juski: | Oliver-BeograD: have you set a mysql user called 'mythtv' ? |
| [14:40:00] | PaulWay: | Oliver-BeograD, define "some error" |
| [14:40:00] | rsdvd: | :-( bugger! Does anyone here have a Nova-t and a PVR-150 inthe same box........ |
| [14:41:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | Juski I set all folowing instruction on HOWTO manual |
| [14:42:00] | Juski: | rsdvd... it's bound to say that if there's already a tda9887.ko module for something else |
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| [14:42:00] | PaulWay: | Oliver-BeograD, Which howto – the one on wilsonet.com? |
| [14:42:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | PaulWay I will PASTE you all lines in #flood |
| [14:42:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | HOWTO whic I downloaded with pacjage |
| [14:43:00] | PaulWay: | Oliver-BeograD, try the paste linker at http://pastebin.ca |
| [14:43:00] | rsdvd: | juski: it has about 4 of these errors (tda9887.ko/tuner.ko//msp3400.ko/tveeprom.ko)....if I allow it to overwrite them the DVB stops working |
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| [14:44:00] | Juski: | rsdvd: hmmm... I think I've read something about building ivtv so it puts the modules somewhere else.. |
| [14:44:00] | rsdvd: | ? any idea where youread that? |
| [14:44:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | PaulWay : http://pastebin.ca/24358 |
| [14:45:00] | Juski: | I think people have even got 2 different versions of ivtv running on the same system for different pvr cards... not sure – it was a long time ago & can't remember where I saw it |
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| [14:45:00] | FunkyELF: | is it still recommended to make swap twice as much as you have RAM in the system? |
| [14:45:00] | rsdvd: | :-( this is the last thing to get working on the backend! When I have this working I have permission to spend more money onthe frontend :-) |
| [14:47:00] | PaulWay: | Oliver-BeograD: I'd say that the mythconverg database didn't exist. |
| [14:47:00] | PaulWay: | Where were you up to in the howto? |
| [14:47:00] | Juski: | lesson learned, rsdvd.. next time get cards based on different chipsets ;) |
| [14:47:00] | PaulWay: | I've got an AVerMedia and a TwinHan card both using the bt878 chipset in the same machine and they run just fine... |
| [14:48:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | PaulWa I red all HOWTO (Robert Kulagowski) and I create mythconverg |
| [14:48:00] | Juski: | yes, PaulWay, but you're not using ivtv which uses its own versions of similarly named modules |
| [14:49:00] | PaulWay: | What do you get if you do 'mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg' |
| [14:49:00] | PaulWay: | Juski: I'm just being smug :-) |
| [14:49:00] | Juski: | it'd be a whole lot better if ivtv was in the kernel |
| [14:49:00] | Juski: | (stating the obvious) |
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| [14:50:00] | PaulWay: | Ah, Oliver-BeograD, you mean the one on mythtv.org, yes? |
| [14:50:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | yes |
| [14:50:00] | PaulWay: | What distro are you using? |
| [14:50:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | Debian |
| [14:50:00] | PaulWay: | Of course, I should have guessed from your pasted machine name. |
| [14:51:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | O yes :) |
| [14:51:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | But I saw that I shopuld maybe instal some limqt3-mysql package ? |
| [14:52:00] | ** PaulWay distracts himself with the linpvr.org project of mythtv on Via EPIA. ** | |
| [14:52:00] | Juski: | paulway: nice project, that |
| [14:52:00] | Juski: | (gets a lot of use in my house) |
| [14:52:00] | PaulWay: | Oliver-BeograD: I would have thought if you used apt-get or similar to install mythtv it would already have got all the dependencies. |
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| [14:53:00] | PaulWay: | Juski: is it using the Unichrome drivers for X? |
| [14:53:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | yes, but This damn debian dont have that package and dont have mythtv, so I compiled |
| [14:53:00] | Juski: | PaulWay: yes |
| [14:53:00] | PaulWay: | Juski: and how good is playback? |
| [14:53:00] | PaulWay: | Oliver-BeograD: Ah. |
| [14:53:00] | Juski: | no idea about cpu utilisation but I can play back dvds, xvid etc without any issues |
| [14:54:00] | Juski: | very responsive :) |
| [14:54:00] | PaulWay: | firestorm: another aussie! |
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| [14:54:00] | PaulWay: | And there he goes. |
| [14:54:00] | Juski: | Oliver-BeograD: without the QT libraries for mysql you're gonna have problems fella – mythtv kinda needs them |
| [14:54:00] | Juski: | (in a big way) |
| [14:55:00] | PaulWay: | 's very true. |
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| [14:55:00] | jhoke: | re's |
| [14:55:00] | jhoke: | anyone having problems with current SVN where mythMusic segfaults when skipping forward songs? |
| [14:56:00] | Juski: | you can almost expect svn to do weird things.. that's a given isn't it? |
| [14:56:00] | PaulWay: | Juski: is it just a frontend or can it do backend as well? |
| [14:56:00] | PaulWay: | jhoke: you're using the latest builds? |
| [14:56:00] | ** PaulWay stays well away from the bleeding edge... ** | |
| [14:56:00] | jhoke: | yep ... was just wondering if it was somethign on my end or the code ;) |
| [14:57:00] | PaulWay: | well, not 'well' away... |
| [14:57:00] | PaulWay: | jhoke: No idea but I suspect the code... |
| [14:57:00] | jhoke: | Paul: 0.19.20050712–1 |
| [14:57:00] | Juski: | PaulWay – purely for frontend only |
| [14:58:00] | PaulWay: | Oliver-BeograD: can you do 'apt-get install qt-MySQL' as root? |
| [14:58:00] | PaulWay: | Juski: Ah, the bitter pain of disappointment. |
| [14:58:00] | jhoke: | Paul, so do I... was thinking it could be the size (both in GB and # of songs) in my library |
| [14:58:00] | Juski: | rsdvd.. maybe it'd be wise at this stage to post a question on the ivtv mailing list or forums |
| [14:58:00] | jhoke: | it seems to only happen on random play ... |
| [14:59:00] | PaulWay: | I've had problems getting the unichrome drivers running on my EPIA machine running Fedora Core. |
| [14:59:00] | Juski: | PaulWay... they're binary drivers, so you'll be limited to the choice of distro you can use |
| [14:59:00] | PaulWay: | Downloading them from the EPIA yum feed at washington.kelkoo.net |
| [15:00:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | PauWay : debian:/home/morke# apt-get install qt-MySQL ; Reading Package Lists... Done ; Building Dependency Tree... Don ;E: Couldn't find package qt-MySQL |
| [15:00:00] | Juski: | there's a good guide on getting gentoo working on the EPIA series tho, PaulWay |
| [15:00:00] | jhoke: | heh... may be time to rebuild the entire box from scratch... too much crap laying around on it from other builds/tools/etc ... may just build all from source and be done with it |
| [15:00:00] | PaulWay: | *sigh* I've spent so much time getting used to Fedora, I don't want to change... |
| [15:01:00] | jhoke: | Paul, yeah, but I am having a number of issues with ATrpms, not to mention that nuvexport has issues with FC => 3 |
| [15:01:00] | jhoke: | (FC 3 and 4) |
| [15:01:00] | Juski: | gentoo isn't too bad... I almost gave up on Linux after trying FC2 |
| [15:01:00] | jhoke: | may be time for SuSE or debian again |
| [15:02:00] | Juski: | rsdvd... some googling has revealed you're not the only one to have had the module conflict problem (quel surprise) |
| [15:02:00] | PaulWay: | jhoke: I set up my mythfrontend on FC4 by doing 'yum install mythfrontend' and letting it sort it out. |
| [15:02:00] | PaulWay: | OK, you're not getting custom compiled binaries, but I don't see any performance problem. |
| [15:02:00] | jhoke: | Paul: for a FE I almost agree ... :) but what about your BE? |
| [15:03:00] | PaulWay: | Same. |
| [15:03:00] | PaulWay: | I just did 'yum install mythtv-suite'. |
| [15:03:00] | jhoke: | Yep... did that.. then did rpm -e `rpm -qa|grep mythtv` |
| [15:03:00] | ** Juski wonders why on Earth ivtv doesn't use different module names for its own code ** | |
| [15:04:00] | jhoke: | and installed svn once I got used to the software... |
| [15:04:00] | PaulWay: | jhoke: erased them? why? didn't work? |
| [15:04:00] | PaulWay: | BTW, you can do 'rpm qa \*mythtv\*' |
| [15:04:00] | jhoke: | I was having a number of rpm conflicts on my backend |
| [15:04:00] | PaulWay: | Odd! |
| [15:04:00] | jhoke: | Paul: I know... old grephabits die hard ;) |
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| [15:05:00] | PaulWay: | You know, the one thing I've found about Linux is the almost unlimited opportunities for learning. |
| [15:05:00] | jhoke: | tomorrow I think I will be installing SuSE9.3 and rebuilding all from scratch... after I backup my database :) |
| [15:05:00] | PaulWay: | There's almost never a time when I want to do something that doesn't require me learning some new tool or technique... |
| [15:05:00] | jhoke: | Paul, yep.. which is good... learning is a good sign of life :-D |
| [15:06:00] | PaulWay: | True. I just re-learned C and PVM, and it's getting much easier... |
| [15:06:00] | jhoke: | i have to run to check out the progress on my house in a few (having a new house built in the Poconos [Pennsylvania]) and I need to keep an eye on the contractor :) |
| [15:06:00] | PaulWay: | Discovering, along the way, the many reasons why I prefer Perl to C. |
| [15:06:00] | jhoke: | LOL! |
| [15:06:00] | PaulWay: | jhoke: webcams? |
| [15:06:00] | jhoke: | no electricity yet |
| [15:07:00] | jhoke: | I just go out every couple of days to surprise him |
| [15:07:00] | PaulWay: | heh heh heh. |
| [15:07:00] | jhoke: | I want them to finish the wall framing so I can run my cat6 througout the house :) |
| [15:07:00] | PaulWay: | I know the feeling – we had our house rebuilt after a fire once and it was very lucky we had my stepfather checking up on them every day. |
| [15:08:00] | PaulWay: | They nearly put the south-facing bay window in the east wall. |
| [15:08:00] | jhoke: | drop in my gigabit ethernet backbone |
| [15:08:00] | jhoke: | eek! |
| [15:08:00] | PaulWay: | And they forgot to put a hole in for the internal staircase. |
| [15:08:00] | jhoke: | Yeah, these builders are actually damn good all things considered... |
| [15:08:00] | jhoke: | we have a house blog for it http://hoke.org/house ... I need to update that as well :) |
| [15:08:00] | PaulWay: | When they cut into the top slab to make one, we found that they hadn't packed the sand down underneath the top slab. |
| [15:08:00] | PaulWay: | Heh. |
| [15:08:00] | jhoke: | oh shit |
| [15:09:00] | Eire (n=luckyiri@A-78-169.cust.iol.ie) Quit () | |
| [15:09:00] | PaulWay: | carnivorous raspberry attack? |
| [15:09:00] | jhoke: | well... time to go sit in the car for 2 hours ... heh heh... charging gameboy for daughter... then outta here |
| [15:09:00] | PaulWay: | Good luck. |
| [15:10:00] | PaulWay: | Anyway, I think I'll go to bed. |
| [15:10:00] | PaulWay: | Oliver-BeograD: how are you going? |
| [15:10:00] | jhoke: | thanks...bbl |
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| [15:10:00] | PaulWay: | Well, good luck anyway. |
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| [15:11:00] | Juski: | rsdvd... have you compared the sources for the conflicting modules? it might be that the bttv ones are a later rev. than the ivtv ones... so you MIGHT be able to install ivtv first, then go back & compile the dvb card driver modules |
| [15:12:00] | Juski: | (or they might be totally different... in which case why the hell have they got the same name?!) |
| [15:12:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | PaulWay I am searchin internet for libqt3-mysql for debian or somethin...NO SUCESS |
| [15:12:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | o god |
| [15:12:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | he left |
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| [15:13:00] | Juski: | Oliver: they changed the package name |
| [15:13:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | But I dont know how to find it |
| [15:13:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | What is the name now ? |
| [15:14:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | I found :) |
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| [15:15:00] | Juski: | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_pac . . . amp;arch=any |
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| [15:30:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | hey, I need to paste five line here , may I ? |
| [15:32:00] | Juski: | doesn't bother me any, Oliver |
| [15:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | Oliver-BeograD: It's probably a better idea to paste it to www.pastebin.ca and post a link to ut |
| [15:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | to it |
| [15:33:00] | FunkyELF: | how do I change the timezone using the date command? |
| [15:33:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | ok |
| [15:35:00] | Juski: | FunkyELF – wouldn't it be better to create a link to the correct timezone instead? |
| [15:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | FunkyELF: I don't think you can with the date command. It will certainly output it, but I don't think you can set it. If you try it just sets the time to what it WOULD be in that timezone but the timezone itself wont change |
| [15:36:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | GreyFoxx: http://pastebin.ca/24363 |
| [15:37:00] | Juski: | FunkyELF.. e.g. ln /usr/share/zoneinfo/yourlocaltimezone /etc/localtime |
| [15:37:00] | Juski: | Oliver – now that really does look like a DB permissions issue |
| [15:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | Oliver-BeograD: That error looks pretty self explainitory :) |
| [15:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | You migth also consider setting a hostname on the box and not leaving it to the "localhost" :) |
| [15:38:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | ok, but I dont have experence with sql |
| [15:39:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | I set 127.0.0.1 |
| [15:40:00] | Juski: | you don't need experience with sql.. just do what the setup docs tell you to do & go create a db user called 'mythtv' |
| [15:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Oliver-BeograD: I'm not sure what instructions you are following but importing the mc.sql file creates the blank databae and the mythtv user |
| [15:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | did you do that step ? |
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| [15:53:00] | gr0mit_home: | hi – any pointers to installing Myth on debian? |
| [15:53:00] | gr0mit_home: | have tried apt-get install mythtv and i get some dependancy issues |
| [15:54:00] | ** Juski smacks his head repeatedly on the desk ** | |
| [15:54:00] | beavis: | apt-get install mythtv ;) |
| [15:55:00] | beavis: | just force it or recompile |
| [15:55:00] | gr0mit_home: | is it better to compile from source? |
| [15:56:00] | beavis: | gr0mit_home: you don't have to, the source for -4 is exactly the same, just another dependencies |
| [15:56:00] | gr0mit_home: | what is the apt-get command to force it to ignore dependencies? |
| [15:57:00] | beavis: | -f |
| [15:57:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | GreyFoxx , I folowed instruction in MYTHTV package on mythtv web site |
| [15:58:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | debian:/home/morke# mythtv-setup |
| [15:58:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
| [16:00:00] | Juski: | that's still a db permissions issue |
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| [16:03:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | Juski but, how to set permision |
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| [16:09:00] | Oliver-BeograD: | Juski , how to set a password for user mythtv ? |
| [16:09:00] | Rince: | question: does anyone here use an amd64 for mythtv? I try to use nuvexport, but... |
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| [16:11:00] | thanius: | Hey, I've got a problem. Though it doesn't seem to have anything to with MythTV except for that it occurs while recording with it also, but still... |
| [16:11:00] | thanius: | When I record from TV, I get distorted sound, and it hasn't got to do anything with the input levels |
| [16:11:00] | thanius: | Anyone got any idea? |
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| [16:12:00] | thanius: | Well, it's not really distorted, but I hear lots of cracking sounds |
| [16:12:00] | thanius: | These do not occur when watching TV, only when I record. |
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| [16:13:00] | thanius: | anyone? |
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| [16:18:00] | Juski: | thanius – could be PCI latency.. is this using a soundcard to record audio, with a bttv card & software encoding? |
| [16:20:00] | thanius: | yeah |
| [16:20:00] | thanius: | from bttv => soundcard => software encoding |
| [16:20:00] | thanius: | no good? |
| [16:22:00] | thanius: | Juski: What should I do, or is there anything I can do? |
| [16:24:00] | Juski: | can you record audio okay from within other apps – i.e. is the crackling only happenning when you capture video at the same time? |
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| [16:26:00] | thanius: | Juski: Dunno, how can I test? |
| [16:27:00] | Juski: | erm... use a sound recording app... |
| [16:31:00] | thanius: | hehe, gnome-sound-recorder seem to suck |
| [16:31:00] | thanius: | better try with sox, I presume |
| [16:31:00] | thanius: | doesn't seem to record anything? :/ |
| [16:32:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm can't you just dump /dev/dsp to a file? |
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| [16:33:00] | thanius: | I already tried that |
| [16:33:00] | thanius: | quite weird |
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| [16:34:00] | Juski: | you got dma enabled & working on your hdd? |
| [16:35:00] | thanius: | Yeah |
| [16:35:00] | thanius: | This system would be quite worthless without DMA. :) |
| [16:35:00] | Juski: | I would say dump the bttv card & get a proper one.. that's my $0.02 worth |
| [16:35:00] | PatrickDK: | two seperate capture devices is just evil anyways |
| [16:35:00] | PatrickDK: | too many audio/video sync problems |
| [16:36:00] | PatrickDK: | cause they don't use the same clock |
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| [16:36:00] | thanius: | Uhmf. |
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| [16:37:00] | thanius: | Any tip on a good (and reasonably cheap) PVR-card that works with MythTV then? |
| [16:37:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | I just started MYTHTV and when I press Watch TV nothing hapendes, screen just blink , When I look in SYSTEN SATTUS is say that some MYTHFILLDATABASE NOT RUNNING |
| [16:38:00] | Juski: | PVR150, thanius? |
| [16:38:00] | thanius: | WinTV? |
| [16:38:00] | Juski: | PVR150? |
| [16:39:00] | thanius: | Yeah. |
| [16:39:00] | thanius: | Oof. |
| [16:39:00] | thanius: | It's quite expensive. |
| [16:39:00] | thanius: | *mutter* |
| [16:39:00] | PatrickDK: | anything that works is expensive |
| [16:39:00] | Juski: | does the job though ;) |
| [16:40:00] | thanius: | Soooo, there's NO way at all to record from a normal BTTV card without latency problems? |
| [16:40:00] | Juski: | sometimes a bigger price is a small price to pay |
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| [16:40:00] | thanius: | Seems quite dumb to support those cards in any tv-grabbing software then. :) |
| [16:40:00] | Juski: | there is – cos some people still use em.. just depends on individual setups |
| [16:40:00] | thanius: | At least MCE and MediaPortal for Win exclude support for softwareencoding |
| [16:40:00] | PatrickDK: | no, not if you don't care about audio |
| [16:41:00] | PatrickDK: | like for security system :) |
| [16:41:00] | PatrickDK: | or baby cam |
| [16:41:00] | thanius: | Hehe |
| [16:41:00] | Juski: | ... or video quality.. but hey |
| [16:41:00] | PatrickDK: | I use mine for baby cam |
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| [16:41:00] | PatrickDK: | juski, my wintv has excelent video quality |
| [16:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | thanius: You Could configure th emyth menus to launch xawtv for the bttv card if you want to watch "livetv" |
| [16:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | without any latency or recording |
| [16:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | Of course it means no pausing or rewinding of live tv, but it would work |
| [16:42:00] | thanius: | I want to watch on my XBOX, I don't care for any PC-viewing |
| [16:42:00] | thanius: | nor Live TV |
| [16:42:00] | thanius: | besides, if I wanted live TV for 900 bucks I could just grab a DVD-recorder with harddrivesupport |
| [16:42:00] | Juski: | PatrickDK – I'm sure it is very good, but it's a veritable pick & mix out there in bttv land... quality varies considerably |
| [16:42:00] | thanius: | 90 bucks, I mwean |
| [16:42:00] | thanius: | :P |
| [16:43:00] | PatrickDK: | ya |
| [16:43:00] | Juski: | yeh thanius.. but would it be reliable enough? I hear they're not so good, even now |
| [16:43:00] | Juski: | I know it's not the end of the world when a show doesn't record, but why put up with the disappointment? |
| [16:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Then what exactly is the issue ? If you are just looking to stream to your xbox then either a pvr card or a old bttv card would be fine |
| [16:44:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | so, nobody knows... :( |
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| [16:44:00] | Juski: | greyFoxx.. the issue is that his soundcard can't grab audio at a decent enough rate I think, |
| [16:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | AAhh ok. I must have missed that part |
| [16:45:00] | Juski: | hey Oliver_Beograd stop being so petulant.. no need to be like that in here |
| [16:45:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | Juski I cant translate word PETULANT |
| [16:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | Oliver_Beograd: What does the backend say ? And the frontend should have some output |
| [16:46:00] | Juski: | ok then... don't be pissed that nobody answered the question ;-) |
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| [16:46:00] | Juski: | mythtv is 'free' and so is the tech-support :) |
| [16:47:00] | thanius: | how high must the latency of the card be without the audio getting all crackly? |
| [16:47:00] | Juski: | you could try swapping cards around in different slots, thanius.. that's been known to help I think |
| [16:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | I stopped using software based cards years ago. But never had any issues with audio |
| [16:48:00] | Juski: | you could also try setting the sampling frequency down a notch or 2 to see if that'd help – you'd probably not notice the difference between 22khz & 44khz sampling with most TV channels anyway |
| [16:48:00] | thanius: | I could try |
| [16:49:00] | thanius: | And it's not like I'm gonna burn a DVD or anything with the recording, it's mostly for one time view-and-delete whenever I work early and thus cannot watch the late night TV |
| [16:49:00] | thanius: | WTF |
| [16:50:00] | thanius: | now vcr doesn't grab any audio |
| [16:50:00] | thanius: | I think I need a reboot |
| [16:50:00] | thanius: | :P |
| [16:50:00] | thanius: | I'll be back in a jiffy! |
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| [16:50:00] | Juski: | that's a windows tech-support solution, is that |
| [16:50:00] | Juski: | whatever the problem, no matter how big or small.. reboot lol |
| [16:51:00] | ** Juski turns round to transcode a 20Gb avi to mpeg2 for DVD ** | |
| [16:53:00] | PatrickDK: | only 20gigs? |
| [16:54:00] | Juski: | yeh.. 'only' |
| [16:54:00] | Juski: | 20GB DV |
| [16:54:00] | PatrickDK: | 38g is raw 720x480 NTSC |
| [16:54:00] | PatrickDK: | for 2h atleast |
| [16:54:00] | Juski: | this is about 1 hour 15 |
| [16:55:00] | Juski: | PAL |
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| [16:59:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, actually, I am calculating something wrong |
| [16:59:00] | PatrickDK: | ah, there we go, 278gigs for NTSC |
| [16:59:00] | Juski: | it's roughly 15GB per hour of PAL DV (720x576) |
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| [17:00:00] | PatrickDK: | 40megs a second |
| [17:01:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, pal comes out the same, 278gig per 2hours |
| [17:01:00] | PatrickDK: | the 576vs480 and 29.97vs25 equals out |
| [17:03:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | hey...I am vondering...but I didnt find that MYTHTV can record from some other source (not Television, but CompositeX , ot SVHS) |
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| [17:12:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | ah, I am tired of this mythtv, an as I see it cant capture video from Composite input from tv card... |
| [17:12:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | Is there any other capture program |
| [17:15:00] | fryfrog: | what do you mean it can't capture composite? |
| [17:15:00] | fryfrog: | and myth isn't a "capture" program |
| [17:15:00] | fryfrog: | its a tv show time shifting program |
| [17:15:00] | fryfrog: | if you just want to capture shit, try "cat /dev/vidoe0 > file.mpg" (if you have a hardware mpeg2 card) |
| [17:15:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | Yes |
| [17:16:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | I now hat |
| [17:16:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | but I want to watchin while I am capturing |
| [17:16:00] | fryfrog: | i record tv shows over svideo and composite all the time |
| [17:16:00] | fryfrog: | so try "cat /dev/video0 > file.mpg & |
| [17:16:00] | fryfrog: | then "mplayer file.mpg" |
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| [17:18:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | Yes , yes , I know that , I even have programs FFMPEG , MENCODER, TRANSCODER, STREAMER....But, I dont know how to capture and watching capturing at the same time |
| [17:19:00] | Rince: | Oliver_Beograd: these are two different processes |
| [17:20:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | But how , for exampele to open XAWTV and MENCODER (or ffmpeg) at the same time |
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| [17:33:00] | Rince: | why do you want to? |
| [17:34:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | I have bttv878 , and I want to recort video from video recodrer on my PC. But I need to watch while I am recording |
| [17:35:00] | Rince: | Oliver_Beograd: why do you need to watch it? Is 5 seconds after it not live enough? |
| [17:35:00] | Chutt: | if you don't want to use myth, you're in the wrong channel. |
| [17:35:00] | Rince: | *nod* |
| [17:36:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | Rince mopt just recording form vide but from camcorder to, I recorded somethin in my room , and I need to watch |
| [17:36:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | Chutt I WANT TO USE BUT I HAVE MANY PROBLEMS |
| [17:37:00] | Rince: | Oliver_Beograd: but your current problem has nothing to do with Myth |
| [17:37:00] | Chutt: | sucks to be you, then. |
| [17:37:00] | Chutt: | stop typing in all caps |
| [17:37:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | Some guy tald me that MYTHTV can capture video |
| [17:37:00] | Rince: | Oliver_Beograd: it can, if you configure a channel where it can "watch" and capture it |
| [17:38:00] | Rince: | or you define one of your entries of the tv-card for the connection |
| [17:38:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | You mean TV chanal ? |
| [17:38:00] | Rince: | yes, Either tv channel or maybe the scart entry of your card |
| [17:39:00] | Rince: | (yes I did that already to make dvd copies of an old vhs program) |
| [17:39:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | OOOO, NICE, but I dont know how to configure that for God sake |
| [17:39:00] | Chutt: | more reading, less typing in all caps. |
| [17:39:00] | Chutt: | is what you need. |
| [17:39:00] | Rince: | channel? Like you configured your tv-channels – with mythsetup/channels |
| [17:40:00] | Rince: | and the other way: find out which entry of the tv-card you want to use for capturing, define it in mythsetup, use it. |
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| [17:40:00] | Rince: | sorry for being so harsh. But it _is_ quite easy if you read the documentation to mythtv |
| [17:41:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | Yes, but what is INPUT CONNECTIONS ? |
| [17:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's one of the menu options in mythtv-setup |
| [17:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | one of the 5 main sections thatyou pick from |
| [17:42:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | What do I need to set there ? |
| [17:42:00] | Chutt: | read the docs. |
| [17:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | Have you now read through all of the docs on mythtv.org ? |
| [17:42:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | allmost |
| [17:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | finish |
| [17:42:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | ok... |
| [17:42:00] | Rince: | Oliver_Beograd: we are not here to read the documentation _for you_. If you have read everything, went on with it and _then_ still have questions, please ask again |
| [17:42:00] | Rince: | (like my problem. But seem to be unique with nuvexport on amd64 ;) |
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| [17:52:00] | hound: | If I want a program I call from myth to use my remote also, and it wasn't designed with lirc support, I can still have lirc send it commands right? do I have execute it through some lirc wrapper? |
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| [17:57:00] | PatrickDK: | just use lircd |
| [17:57:00] | hound: | maybe it's nto working because I am using a phony prog name? pretty sure it's right, what's the logic it uses to determine that? |
| [17:58:00] | hound: | I am using lircd, and configured it in my .lircrc, but it's not working. |
| [17:58:00] | PatrickDK: | sounds like you didn't config it right |
| [17:59:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, nice |
| [17:59:00] | PatrickDK: | two episodes next tuesday :) |
| [18:01:00] | hound: | well I can't find any errors, that's why I was suspicious lirc won't work with just any application. |
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| [18:09:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, I wonder why overlay mixer uses so much cpu |
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| [18:22:00] | yarddog: | ive been following the directions to install mythtv in fedora, ive gotton as far as installing the ivtv driver via yum, i do the depmode -a, then modprobe ivtv fails, what is wrong? any ideas? |
| [18:23:00] | Rince: | what is the exact errormessage you get from depmod -a? |
| [18:24:00] | yarddog: | no errors |
| [18:24:00] | yarddog: | just a regular term prompt |
| [18:25:00] | yarddog: | modprobe ivtv results in 'fatal' |
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| [18:27:00] | Rince: | have you tried eeprom ? |
| [18:27:00] | Rince: | and have you looked in the syslog-logfile? |
| [18:27:00] | yarddog: | no |
| [18:27:00] | yarddog: | im pretty new to this |
| [18:29:00] | Rince: | sorry, I don't have a fedora box. But do a "grep ivtv /var/log/syslog" and see wether there are messages |
| [18:29:00] | yarddog: | do i need to be in the mythtv user mode with root at all times? |
| [18:29:00] | yarddog: | ok |
| [18:29:00] | yarddog: | grep ivtv /var/log/syslog |
| [18:29:00] | yarddog: | grep: /var/log/syslog: No such file or directory |
| [18:29:00] | Rince: | *hmpf* |
| [18:30:00] | Rince: | okay, a fedora guy here? |
| [18:30:00] | yarddog: | im on number 10 at http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php |
| [18:30:00] | yarddog: | for the ivtv and hau.. card |
| [18:31:00] | yarddog: | pvr |
| [18:32:00] | Rince: | and what kind of card do you have? |
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| [18:33:00] | yarddog: | 02:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01) |
| [18:34:00] | yarddog: | The lspci output should return something like this for a PVR-250 within the output (rev2, iTVC16, thus "Unknown device 0016") |
| [18:35:00] | yarddog: | so i believe im in the right spot |
| [18:36:00] | Rince: | sounds right |
| [18:37:00] | yarddog: | except instead of hau.. card it returns sony |
| [18:37:00] | Rince: | do you have a hauppauge-card? |
| [18:37:00] | yarddog: | but i wouldnt think that would matter, the brand |
| [18:37:00] | yarddog: | it doesnt say hauppauge on it, it says sony |
| [18:38:00] | Rince: | well – the brand does matter |
| [18:38:00] | yarddog: | Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 813d |
| [18:38:00] | yarddog: | hrm |
| [18:38:00] | Rince: | unfortunately, this is very important – since sony doesn't just oem the pvr-cards as far as I know; they have their own stuff and drivers |
| [18:39:00] | yarddog: | maybe i should check their support to see if there is any docs on it |
| [18:39:00] | yarddog: | i thought it would be the same |
| [18:39:00] | Rince: | sorry, no ;) |
| [18:39:00] | Rince: | but you can google after your card together with mythtv – maybe someone else already has experience with it |
| [18:40:00] | yarddog: | yeah |
| [18:40:00] | yarddog: | this is not good |
| [18:40:00] | Juski: | sony making pvr cards? that's a new one |
| [18:40:00] | yarddog: | its a desktop viao |
| [18:40:00] | Juski: | ugh |
| [18:40:00] | yarddog: | tvcard came with it |
| [18:40:00] | Juski: | good luck then |
| [18:40:00] | yarddog: | hrm |
| [18:41:00] | yarddog: | its an internext tho |
| [18:41:00] | yarddog: | but i guess that irrelevant, eh |
| [18:41:00] | Juski: | yeah so's my Leadtek lr6632 card... but that isn't supported by ivtv either |
| [18:42:00] | yarddog: | ahh |
| [18:42:00] | yarddog: | ill look at the site and google it |
| [18:42:00] | Juski: | you ***might*** be lucky though – it could be a clone of a Hauppauge PVR card |
| [18:42:00] | yarddog: | thats what i was thinking |
| [18:43:00] | yarddog: | so i attempted the setup from that website |
| [18:43:00] | yarddog: | but its not working |
| [18:43:00] | Juski: | if it's not, just put it on Ebay – some sap will buy it for window$ |
| [18:43:00] | yarddog: | lol |
| [18:43:00] | yarddog: | i used to have windows on here |
| [18:43:00] | yarddog: | it had a sony viao server to use the tv |
| [18:43:00] | yarddog: | but windows is gone |
| [18:44:00] | Juski: | hmmmm .. you might be able to get it to work with the cx88-mpeg driver (to some extent).. I've yet to play with mine – it uses parts of the ivtv code |
| [18:45:00] | yarddog: | hrm |
| [18:45:00] | dj_segfault: | Hey. I just threw a PVR-250 in my SuSE 9.3 box. I've been following http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#pvr250 it's been a little less than smooth. I'm having multiple problems, but I think the root of them is getting ivtv modules loaded correctly. lspci sees the card. When I set up my /etc/modprobe.d/tv file as directed by that page, it didn't work, because it's modules.conf syntax. I commented out the "a |
| [18:46:00] | dj_segfault: | wont load and complains "ivtv: Unknown parameter `debug' |
| [18:46:00] | dj_segfault: | load_module: err 0xfffffffe (dont worry)" |
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| [18:47:00] | dj_segfault: | For starters, I would be grateful to see someone's /etc/modprobe.d/tv file, preferably for a late model SuSE box. |
| [18:47:00] | Rince: | take out the debug-statement |
| [18:47:00] | dj_segfault: | Tried that, but it still gives the err line. Contrary to its instructions, I'm worrying. |
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| [18:49:00] | dj_segfault: | I'll also note that the URL listed on that page for the ivtv project times out, so I can't get help there. |
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| [19:33:00] | stevenm: | Hi. My mythtv recordings directory got deleted, but the recordings are still in the database. How do I delete them from there? |
| [19:35:00] | briand: | they are stored in MySQL |
| [19:35:00] | briand: | ...just delete the corresponding records from the table(s) in the mythconverg database |
| [19:35:00] | stevenm: | briand, so then what> |
| [19:35:00] | stevenm: | Oh |
| [19:35:00] | stevenm: | 'recorded' ? |
| [19:36:00] | briand: | hmm... well |
| [19:36:00] | briand: | there's a table showing what you have on disk... |
| [19:36:00] | briand: | and another table showing what you have recorded... |
| [19:36:00] | briand: | (even if you've deleted the program, MythTV knows you've previously recorded it) |
| [19:37:00] | briand: | best bet would be to use the interface in MythTV to delete the records — then you can specify whether you want to "allow re-record" or not. What this choice does is either retain or delete the corresponding record(s) in the "recorded" table |
| [19:38:00] | briand: | if you schedule a recording and a record exists in the "recorded" table, then MythTV will not (by default) try to record it. |
| [19:38:00] | briand: | umd = university of maryland? |
| [19:41:00] | stevenm: | briand, yes |
| [19:41:00] | briand: | go Terps! |
| [19:41:00] | stevenm: | Indeed |
| [19:41:00] | briand: | ...but not TOO far. ;) |
| [19:41:00] | briand: | <-- in Tallahassee, FL. |
| [19:41:00] | stevenm: | Haha cool |
| [19:42:00] | briand: | so, how did you happen to delete the recordings directory? |
| [19:43:00] | stevenm: | different hard drive |
| [19:43:00] | briand: | ah. |
| [19:43:00] | briand: | well, anyway.. I'd use the MythTV interface to do the cleanup... |
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| [19:43:00] | briand: | there's a number of records in various tables that keep track of those things... |
| [19:43:00] | briand: | (thus "relational" database. :grin:) |
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| [19:44:00] | briand: | one click in MythTV will expunge the record(s) and all related entities in the other tables |
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| [19:45:00] | briand: | to "properly" do it at the MySQL prompt, you'd have to delete all the related records in other tables as well, which would entail determining which tables were related, etc, etc... overall, much easier to just let the program do it. |
| [19:46:00] | briand: | with the file non-existant, MythTV may well produce a "warning" or "error" trying to delete... but should clear the database tables anyway. (I haven't looked at the code, so I don't know exactly how Myth will handle the situation) |
| [19:48:00] | briand: | hey.. i gotta run off to the store and stock up on munchies before the 3:30 kickoff(s)-- i'll be rooting for FSU to remain undefeated, and looking for an upset in Tuscaloosa (cheering for the 'Tide). Good luck with your database cleanup, steven |
| [19:48:00] | stevenm: | alright |
| [19:48:00] | stevenm: | Haha thanks |
| [19:48:00] | briand: | (at the half, MD is up on Va, 21–17 |
| [19:49:00] | briand: | 'k.. well, I'm outta here for a bit. take care |
| [19:49:00] | stevenm: | later |
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| [20:07:00] | FunkyELF: | so BrightHouse just came by and gave me a new STB that has firewire out. But they accidently left my original box here w/ me to ;-) |
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| [20:19:00] | sphing: | does anyone have an ntp server that syncs well with tv time (at least on most US channels) |
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| [20:25:00] | Flamie: | Hi people |
| [20:25:00] | Flamie: | I got an issue (as always :) |
| [20:25:00] | Rince: | ask |
| [20:25:00] | Flamie: | I had sound in zsnes prior to getting my LiveTV work |
| [20:26:00] | Flamie: | now after some fiddling (and getting btaudio to load and work) I don't have any sound in zsnes anymore |
| [20:26:00] | Flamie: | xmame works, and zsnes start games as expected |
| [20:26:00] | Flamie: | output from zsnes doesn't say anything about failing with sound |
| [20:26:00] | Flamie: | I checked my mixer settings, any suggestions? |
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| [20:27:00] | Flamie: | /dev/sound/dsp is my soundcard (via, built into motherboard) and /dev/sound/dsp1 is btaudio |
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| [20:28:00] | Flamie: | I know I had this problem before when working with btaudio |
| [20:28:00] | Flamie: | is there a way to specifiy what dsp for zsnes to use? (I couldn't find any :/ ) |
| [20:28:00] | ElToNmal: | alguem ai eh Brasileiro |
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| [20:57:00] | hadees: | anyone get xorg lockups when running mythtv |
| [20:57:00] | hadees: | it seems to happen randomly |
| [20:58:00] | Chutt: | turn off renderaccel. |
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| [21:14:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | could somebody tell me defaul mysql port in MYTHTV setup , please |
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| [21:15:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | because in "netstat -anp" I get that mysql port is 3306 tcp |
| [21:15:00] | ivor: | Oliver_Beograd: 3306 |
| [21:15:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | hm |
| [21:15:00] | ivor: | heh |
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| [21:18:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | do you maybe know what does this mean : debian:/home/morke/mythtv-0.15/setup# mythbackend -v ; session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
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| [21:18:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | oh |
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| [21:20:00] | Vampie_: | hello when i install 4 tv card hauppauge to freebsd it cannot boot saying Couldn't alloc kernel virtual memory |
| [21:22:00] | Beirdo: | how is that a MythTV question |
| [21:23:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | I asked myth question :) |
| [21:24:00] | Cromz: | Beirdo, go kick his dog ;) lol j/k |
| [21:24:00] | Beirdo: | dunno the answer |
| [21:26:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | What is XMLTV ? How to configure that , if I dont know what that is ? In my country doesnt exist something like that |
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| [21:30:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | I mena in that list , USA , austria/germay etc. I did not si my country |
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| [21:31:00] | sphing: | what does "monitor cd/dvd" do? |
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| [21:33:00] | poonj: | hey guys.. |
| [21:34:00] | poonj: | for some reason, I can tune my hdtv using atscscan |
| [21:34:00] | poonj: | but I can't tune my hdtv in the mythtv-setup scan |
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| [21:34:00] | poonj: | is there something I need to replace in terms of the tuning program for mythtv-set? |
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| [21:40:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | how to set XMLTV if there is no my country listed |
| [21:40:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | it is a problem you know |
| [21:40:00] | laga: | Oliver_Beograd: where are you located? |
| [21:43:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | in SERBIA |
| [21:46:00] | laga: | http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/index.php?date=2005-07-27 |
| [21:46:00] | laga: | [12:22] <GreyFoxx> Ok.... hrm. in North America most use Zap2it, and in most other countries people use the xmltv grabbers but I don't see one listed for Serbia. You might be able to find one from google or by emailing the mythtv-users mailing list |
| [21:46:00] | laga: | but it seems like you're out of luck |
| [21:46:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | oooo |
| [21:46:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | jesus |
| [21:46:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | But how to set up that ? |
| [21:47:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | Do I need to set up that if I only want to CAPTURE video from Composite1 ? From my TV card ? |
| [21:47:00] | Rince: | no |
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| [21:47:00] | sphing: | does anyone use mythvideo in conjunction with their cd/dvd drive |
| [21:48:00] | laga: | Oliver_Beograd: why would you want mythtv only for capturing from composite? or do you have a sat receiver hooked up there? |
| [21:48:00] | sphing: | i've used mythvideo before but if i remember it scans first then throws it into the db... |
| [21:48:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | laga , I have btt878 (tuner, composite, SVHS) but I just want to capture from composite |
| [21:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | What is connected to the composite input ? |
| [21:54:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | CamCorder or camera |
| [21:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ok, so it's not for capturing a scheduled event like a TV show |
| [21:55:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | not for sheduled |
| [21:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | then myth is liekly not the best solution. You could have to setup a fake video source, and put some fake program listsings data in the database |
| [21:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | Myth is not designed to functions like a vcr with no knowledge of what it is recording |
| [21:57:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | ooooo damn |
| [21:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | you could certainly do it |
| [21:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | but it might not be worth the effort. That's up to you |
| [21:58:00] | Oliver_Beograd: | I am searched hole planet for some program for capturing and watchit at the same time |
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| [22:00:00] | Cromz: | GreyFoxx, wouldn't custom scheduling do that? |
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| [22:02:00] | Dayhawk: | I'm having problems with getting mythtv to record my shows properly. It currently only records the video without the audio even though I am able to hear system sounds and the tv audio(connected through line-in) just fine |
| [22:04:00] | Dayhawk: | are there any issues with SB live EMU10k1(oem) cards? |
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| [22:13:00] | purplefrog: | Nuts, I accidentally deleted something and forgot to tell it to allow a re-recording. How do I fix this mistake? |
| [22:17:00] | ** gr0mit_home is having probs. just trying to install mythfrontend onto my laptop. It all compiles ok, but when I run mythfrontend it says no errort type from Qsql Error? Unable to connect to database. Any hints? ** | |
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| [22:19:00] | gr0mit_home: | I've done a tcpdump on the server and no packets are reachint it frommy front end. |
| [22:20:00] | sphing: | did you run mythtv-setup first? |
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| [22:33:00] | rsdvd: | Hi......can anyone remind me how to get DVB OTA EPG working? |
| [22:35:00] | gr0mit_home: | sphing – yes I get this error when running mythtv-setup |
| [22:36:00] | gr0mit_home: | is there an apt-get version for 2.6.8 kernel? |
| [22:36:00] | gr0mit_home: | When I try to run apt-get install mythtv-frontend I get loads of unmet dependencies |
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| [22:39:00] | gr0mit_home: | take a peek at http://pastebin.ca/24393 |
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| [22:39:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | purplefrog: if you know SQL, you can delete it from the "oldrecorded" table and it will rerecord when it comes on again. |
| [22:40:00] | purplefrog: | yeah, I know SQL, but there are 4519 rows in that table. I wish there were an interface for managing it :) |
| [22:40:00] | Beirdo: | phpmyadmin |
| [22:40:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | delete from oldrecorded where title = "the show you want" and subtitle = "the episode subtitle you want"; easy enough. |
| [22:41:00] | Beirdo: | any more wishes? |
| [22:41:00] | gr0mit_home: | Beirdo – can u take a look at the pastebin above and advise on what I have done wrong? |
| [22:43:00] | rsdvd: | Can anyone help me getting the programm info from the DVB card instead of the mythfilldatabase ? |
| [22:44:00] | Beirdo: | dunno, gr0mit_home |
| [22:47:00] | gr0mit_home: | when I compiled from source and try to run myth-setup I get the errors as per http://pastebin.ca.24394 |
| [22:47:00] | gr0mit_home: | http://pastebin.ca/24394 i mean |
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| [22:48:00] | gr0mit_home: | so i have failed using both methods! |
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| [23:54:00] | MrSpiffy: | quiet |
| [23:54:00] | rsdvd: | Hello MrSpiffy |
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