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| [00:03:00] | dcstimm: | okay I edited my /etc/fstab and umounted my partition and now its ext2 |
| [00:03:00] | dcstimm: | i am pausing live tv now so hopefully it will fix it |
| [00:04:00] | dcstimm: | what do you guys think of apple? |
| [00:06:00] | mchou: | apple as what? a computer, the music device, or some other thing? |
| [00:06:00] | dcstimm: | in general |
| [00:07:00] | de-v: | ext2 huh. |
| [00:07:00] | de-v: | i have that problem too, only its not ffrwd, its rew |
| [00:07:00] | dcstimm: | de-v rewind is the same too |
| [00:07:00] | mchou: | dcstimm: you getting a job offer over there? :) |
| [00:07:00] | de-v: | guess that makes sense.. i dont even see the filesystem working |
| [00:07:00] | dcstimm: | mchou, i already work for them |
| [00:08:00] | mchou: | dcstimm: heh, ok. |
| [00:08:00] | de-v: | dcstimm: you should mention if this helps you. i would pause for like 30–45minutes just to be save |
| [00:08:00] | de-v: | safe heh |
| [00:08:00] | dcstimm: | de-v, I am |
| [00:08:00] | mchou: | dcstimm: you seen the iflea spoof? |
| [00:08:00] | dcstimm: | mchou, heh yeah |
| [00:08:00] | malverian[work]: | Can someone recommend a TV tuner card that works well with Linux (non-hdtv) ? |
| [00:08:00] | mchou: | that's pretty much sums up apple |
| [00:08:00] | malverian[work]: | and has good quality of course. |
| [00:09:00] | dcstimm: | mchou, not really |
| [00:09:00] | de-v: | malverian[work]: depends on what you're going to be setting up |
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| [00:09:00] | dcstimm: | the nano is awesome though |
| [00:09:00] | de-v: | malverian[work]: is it just a setuptop or are you seperateing mythbackend and mythfronend? |
| [00:10:00] | de-v: | wow i should lean speaky english. is it going to be a set-top or seperated mythbackend and mythfrontend? |
| [00:10:00] | de-v: | there, i think thats better. |
| [00:11:00] | malverian[work]: | de-v, Its going to be running on one machine. But last time I used MythTv I had the daemon and the frontend as separate processes. |
| [00:11:00] | de-v: | id go with a pvr350 |
| [00:12:00] | malverian[work]: | de-v, I'm setting it up on my normal linux workstation. |
| [00:12:00] | malverian[work]: | de-v, Yeah.. that looks like a bloody nice card... |
| [00:12:00] | malverian[work]: | de-v, Are there any others with similar quality, but not such a steep price? |
| [00:12:00] | de-v: | hardware encoder/decoder so you save your cpu. |
| [00:12:00] | de-v: | do on the fly comm flagging or whatever with that. |
| [00:12:00] | malverian[work]: | de-v, And does it work well with Linux? |
| [00:12:00] | de-v: | can do it with pvr250's too, i do, but on the same box id use a 350 at this point |
| [00:13:00] | malverian[work]: | de-v, Well I've got me a nice AMD64 machine, so I'm not -too- worried about performance. |
| [00:13:00] | de-v: | it used to be annoying to setup, but now its fully supported and pretty much just works from what im reading, and a dude at work uses it too |
| [00:13:00] | malverian[work]: | de-v, Does the remote work with it? |
| [00:13:00] | Wizard_Guest: | de-v, you mention on the fly com flagging, how much CPU power should one need for that? |
| [00:14:00] | de-v: | im a little to wrecked to convert it, but on my xp3200 with 512meg of ram, recording 2 streams at the same time with both on the fly flagging, it works fine |
| [00:14:00] | de-v: | its like a load of 5 |
| [00:14:00] | de-v: | but it works fine |
| [00:14:00] | de-v: | heh |
| [00:14:00] | de-v: | oh, thats while watching a recording on the same box, as a frontend |
| [00:14:00] | de-v: | without xvmc |
| [00:14:00] | Wizard_Guest: | now, how does it detect commercials? |
| [00:14:00] | de-v: | magic. |
| [00:15:00] | de-v: | it works pretty well, but i wouldnt autotranscode them out |
| [00:15:00] | Wizard_Guest: | I take it that the flags are sent in the stream? |
| [00:15:00] | de-v: | best to just bind a key to commflag+ commflag- |
| [00:15:00] | de-v: | oh, and thats 2 pvr250's |
| [00:16:00] | Wizard_Guest: | does it work kinda like when you play back a recorded show, when it hits a comercial flag, it just skips to the next flag, so you basically "SKIP" the comercial?? |
| [00:16:00] | de-v: | and sata |
| [00:16:00] | de-v: | they're marked on the nuv |
| [00:16:00] | Wizard_Guest: | or does it SKIP the entire comercial break? |
| [00:16:00] | de-v: | commflag+ commflag- |
| [00:17:00] | de-v: | they're just marks |
| [00:17:00] | de-v: | install and play |
| [00:17:00] | de-v: | :D |
| [00:17:00] | de-v: | i guess its really ymmv |
| [00:25:00] | Krazylegz: | de-v: You're having problems with LiveTV rewind/fast-forward too? |
| [00:26:00] | de-v: | yeah, but it has to be a pretty big buffer, almost an hour |
| [00:26:00] | Krazylegz: | I think you're having the exact problem I had. Which filesystem are you using? |
| [00:27:00] | de-v: | it looks like an io problem because whatever the problem is myth isnt useing more cpu or reading anymore blocks from the filesystem than it was before |
| [00:27:00] | de-v: | ext3 |
| [00:27:00] | de-v: | i just remounted it ext2 |
| [00:27:00] | Krazylegz: | I had setup /cache, which only holds the ringbuffer for LiveTV, as reiserFS. Once the buffer got full, it would pause for a LONG time. |
| [00:27:00] | de-v: | happened to be a lapse in the recording schedule this hour heh |
| [00:28:00] | de-v: | about to play some burnout, for about an hour, while its paused |
| [00:28:00] | de-v: | then do some 80x ffrwd and rewind and see what happens |
| [00:28:00] | de-v: | thats usually when it would take a dump for a while |
| [00:28:00] | de-v: | then just resume out of nowhere |
| [00:29:00] | Krazylegz: | I checked the size of the ringbuffer and saw that once it was full, it would stay full and freeze. |
| [00:29:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, it eventually caught up for me too. |
| [00:29:00] | de-v: | mines never got full |
| [00:29:00] | Krazylegz: | Hmm, that's odd. |
| [00:30:00] | timekllr: | de-v: do you typically pause tv for an hour, then watch it at 80x ? :) |
| [00:30:00] | de-v: | yes |
| [00:30:00] | de-v: | to ffrwd through commercials |
| [00:30:00] | de-v: | it wont commflag livetv |
| [00:30:00] | timekllr: | ahh – i just "jump" 20 secs at a time over commercials |
| [00:31:00] | timekllr: | er 30 secs |
| [00:31:00] | de-v: | only so many buttons on this remote |
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| [00:31:00] | de-v: | i need to make it girlfriend proof |
| [00:31:00] | de-v: | heh |
| [00:31:00] | de-v: | well, ive made it girlfriend proof. only, there's limitations |
| [00:31:00] | timekllr: | that's easy, take it away from her :) |
| [00:31:00] | de-v: | like the amount of buttons you can bind heh |
| [00:31:00] | de-v: | HAHAHAHA |
| [00:31:00] | de-v: | you dont live with a woman do you |
| [00:31:00] | de-v: | hehe |
| [00:31:00] | de-v: | but i have a big office and dual screen so i run mythfrontend here too heh |
| [00:32:00] | timekllr: | de-v this is j dummy :) |
| [00:32:00] | de-v: | haha |
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| [00:32:00] | de-v: | drr |
| [00:32:00] | timekllr: | haha |
| [00:32:00] | de-v: | securitys gonna cut you off irc'ing to the outside |
| [00:32:00] | de-v: | >:P |
| [00:33:00] | timekllr: | security? – they don't know anything down there |
| [00:33:00] | timekllr: | :P |
| [00:33:00] | de-v: | btw you should try turning xvmc on your laptop |
| [00:34:00] | gunerh: | how actually mythtv searches for commercials .. if i have a set of revcorded mpeg files for the commercials.. will it compare and find the relevant commerials through searching |
| [00:34:00] | de-v: | but i bet you tried that |
| [00:34:00] | timekllr: | i think i did and had problems |
| [00:34:00] | timekllr: | don't remember though |
| [00:34:00] | de-v: | thats probably xv then |
| [00:34:00] | hfghfh: | does anyone know if there is some known problems with mythtv-frontend-0.18.1–114.rhfc4.at. I'm getting a segfault every time i try to start mythfrontend |
| [00:35:00] | de-v: | what fs do you run your recordings on |
| [00:35:00] | timekllr: | all my stuff mostly works right now, so i hate messing with it just to try something new :) |
| [00:35:00] | de-v: | oh but thats not funny mess anything up wuss ;p |
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| [00:35:00] | ** xris wonders if he should try to organize another seattle mythtv meetup. ** | |
| [00:36:00] | de-v: | s/funny/gunna, hrm |
| [00:36:00] | timekllr: | I have no problem messing things up if i have the time to play with it – but you know i am currently working on other "projects" so i have 0 time to play with somethign just because :P |
| [00:36:00] | de-v: | very true |
| [00:37:00] | de-v: | you'll have to remember the plans for that so i can pay you to build one for my new place hehe |
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| [00:38:00] | de-v: | man the womanj records alot of shit |
| [00:39:00] | de-v: | 70 programs, using 181 GB (63 hrs) out of 260 GB. |
| [00:39:00] | de-v: | thats all hers man heh. |
| [00:40:00] | de-v: | though im supposed to wipe a bunch of them so i guess i cant complain. |
| [00:40:00] | hfghfh: | hi all, is there anyone here running their mythbox on fedora 4 x86_64 and cam verify that it works |
| [00:41:00] | malverian[work]: | Hmm.. |
| [00:41:00] | malverian[work]: | Aren't there any hobbyist USB device developers? :-P |
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| [00:41:00] | immolo: | hfghfh- I ran on 64bit gentoo so I can't see it not working on fedora |
| [00:41:00] | malverian[work]: | I can't find any good simple schematics.. |
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| [00:42:00] | Juski: | malverian: it's possible to interface PIC devices with USB |
| [00:42:00] | Juski: | and there ain't much (within reason) you can't do with a PIC ;) |
| [00:42:00] | hfghfh: | I works almost for me to immola, but every time i start mythfrontend it just segfaults like this |
| [00:44:00] | hfghfh: | 2005-09–20 00:44:06.087 Switching to square mode (G.A.N.T.) |
| [00:44:00] | hfghfh: | Corrupt JPEG data: bad Huffman code |
| [00:44:00] | hfghfh: | mythtv: could not connect to socket |
| [00:44:00] | hfghfh: | mythtv: No such file or directory |
| [00:44:00] | hfghfh: | lirc_init failed for mythtv, see preceding messages |
| [00:44:00] | hfghfh: | 2005-09–20 00:44:06.671 Joystick disabled. |
| [00:44:00] | hfghfh: | 2005-09–20 00:44:06.701 Registering Internal as a media playback plugin. |
| [00:44:00] | hfghfh: | 2005-09–20 00:44:06.713 Inserting MythDVD initial database information. |
| [00:45:00] | hfghfh: | and then Segementation Fault |
| [00:45:00] | de-v: | that first part looks bad |
| [00:45:00] | de-v: | (heh) |
| [00:45:00] | kormoc: | sounds like your theme is screwed up |
| [00:45:00] | immolo: | Strange, dodgy binaries? |
| [00:46:00] | hfghfh: | where are the themes stored, and how do change theme without starting mythfront |
| [00:47:00] | malverian[work]: | Juski, I'm talking about something simple at first.. turning on and off an LED by sending certain data to the USB device. |
| [00:47:00] | malverian[work]: | Juski, Like I used to be able to do with my simple serial and parallel devices :-P |
| [00:48:00] | malverian[work]: | Juski, I can't find any tutorials for how to do that sort of thing. |
| [00:48:00] | hfghfh: | at the same time doesnt mythfront rescale all images at the start, if it then segfaults that image would become corrupt |
| [00:48:00] | Juski: | malverian: there's an electronics magazine here in the UK (and online) called EPE (www.epemag.com)... they have just the thing... it's cheap to subscribe & download a pdf every month ;) |
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| [00:49:00] | malverian[work]: | Juski, Hmm.. they have that example I mentioned specifically? A simple USB device, simple driver code? |
| [00:49:00] | Juski: | I think they're doing a whole series on it, malverian |
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| [00:52:00] | Juski: | they've even got a speed-camera warning device project you can update over USB. And they've done a USB data logger... I think now they're going through the methods involved |
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| [00:59:00] | mchou: | Juski: hmm, sounds interesting..... |
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| [01:00:00] | Juski: | I used to subscribe to it – but their projects stopped being interesting for a looong time... might subscribe again, but since I've had my first taste of hacking code... ;-) |
| [01:00:00] | mchou: | Juski: are ther links to the title of articles you're talking about? |
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| [01:00:00] | Juski: | just what's on their website, mchou |
| [01:01:00] | mchou: | cause I'm browsing their site.... |
| [01:01:00] | mchou: | no usb jumps out at me :) |
| [01:02:00] | mchou: | lots of PIC projects though |
| [01:02:00] | Juski: | oops... |
| [01:02:00] | Juski: | http://www.epemag.wimborne.co.uk/ |
| [01:03:00] | Juski: | more detail on the UK website for some reason (go figure) |
| [01:03:00] | mchou: | heh |
| [01:03:00] | mchou: | ok, now we're talking :) |
| [01:04:00] | mchou: | UIRT is pic based, no? |
| [01:04:00] | malverian[work]: | mchou, It was under the mag index. |
| [01:05:00] | mchou: | malverian[work]: you still looking for encoder cards? |
| [01:05:00] | malverian[work]: | mchou, Nah.. I decided I'm either going to get one of the PVR-X50 or the PCHDTV-3000 |
| [01:06:00] | malverian[work]: | mchou, Though I'd like it if someone could confirm that the NTSC quality is not crappy (read a review that it was subpar) |
| [01:07:00] | Juski: | anyone here ever known a hard drive take so much current the PC PSU would shut down? |
| [01:07:00] | Juski: | currently rescuing many GB from a Maxtor drive.. taking forever.. using an extra PSU while I grab the data off it |
| [01:08:00] | hfghfh: | does anyone know where myth stores which theme it should use when starting |
| [01:08:00] | Juski: | in the database, hfghfh |
| [01:09:00] | malverian[work]: | Quality wise, what's the cheapest highest quality tuner you guys would recommend? |
| [01:09:00] | Juski: | the 'settings' table... look under the massive list of entries with the hostname of your frontend |
| [01:09:00] | kormoc: | malverian[work], alas, you can't really get cheap quality. |
| [01:10:00] | malverian[work]: | kormoc, Then what's the _least expensive_ good quality card you'd get? |
| [01:10:00] | hfghfh: | i looked there but i could not find it, unless gant is the normal default scheme when nothing else is selected |
| [01:11:00] | malverian[work]: | kormoc, I have a 21" LCD screen, I want something that makes decent use of it. |
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| [01:11:00] | kormoc: | malverian[work], get a hd tuner card then, imho |
| [01:11:00] | malverian[work]: | I don't have HDTV signal? |
| [01:11:00] | kormoc: | malverian[work], not even over the air? |
| [01:12:00] | malverian[work]: | kormoc, Maybe.. but most of the channels I want are not broadcast ;) |
| [01:12:00] | kormoc: | malverian[work], no matter what normal tuner you get, it's limited res, due to the signal, none of the sd tuners will make good use of your screen imho |
| [01:12:00] | Juski: | none of the channels I want even exist lol |
| [01:12:00] | mchou: | haha |
| [01:13:00] | kormoc: | malverian[work], the pvr 150 is a good quality sd tuner, which is what I'd get if I was you. |
| [01:13:00] | malverian[work]: | kormoc, I had an old bttv card, it was horribly grainy. |
| [01:13:00] | mchou: | malverian[work]: forget about recording any HDTV that's not OTA or clear QAM :) |
| [01:13:00] | kormoc: | yeah, the 150 would be grand |
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| [01:14:00] | malverian[work]: | kormoc, Okay.. so compared to that old card, the BTTV is a good one to get. Cool. |
| [01:14:00] | kormoc: | BTTV is the old card... |
| [01:14:00] | Juski: | avoid anything with a BT878/BT829 on it.. the newer video decoders are far superior... much better resolution |
| [01:14:00] | PatrickDK: | decoder? |
| [01:15:00] | snerfu: | Do I need to have a variable after the change channel command, here is what I have: "/usr/local/bin/channel". I can change the channel manually running it with the channel number, but I can't get it to work from inside mythtv |
| [01:15:00] | Juski: | video decoder – IC which decodes video & turns it into data |
| [01:15:00] | kormoc: | Juski, actually, the bttv's are just pure frame grabbers, you can't get better res from that, they just had bad tuners... |
| [01:15:00] | kormoc: | and huge cpu overhead... |
| [01:16:00] | malverian[work]: | kormoc, soryr.. that's what I meant.. |
| [01:16:00] | Juski: | kormoc – I work for a CCTV manufacturer & can state that anything which doesn't have a comb-filter for the chroma loses you resolution |
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| [01:16:00] | malverian[work]: | kormoc, Brain fart :) |
| [01:16:00] | kormoc: | Juski, do any of the cards have one of them? |
| [01:16:00] | Juski: | put a 5mhz sweep into a BT829 & see it drop off at about 350 lines :( |
| [01:17:00] | PatrickDK: | they all should |
| [01:17:00] | PatrickDK: | it is what helps keepthe channels from bleeding together |
| [01:17:00] | Juski: | the newer conexant based cards have them, as do ones based on phillips decoders too |
| [01:18:00] | PatrickDK: | I think the 150 does |
| [01:18:00] | PatrickDK: | it has some kind of filter on it |
| [01:18:00] | Juski: | PatrickDK.. I mean a comb filter for the baseband (composite) video out of the tuner |
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| [01:18:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm |
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| [01:19:00] | Juski: | bottom line is.. avoid anything with 878/827/829 chips |
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| [01:20:00] | Juski: | saa7134 from phillips is much better than them, as is the conexant cx23800 |
| [01:20:00] | Juski: | and of course anything made after either of those.. |
| [01:20:00] | redfox: | I'm getting an error from mythfrontend: Realtime priority would require SUID as root. |
| [01:20:00] | redfox: | is this something to worry about? |
| [01:21:00] | PatrickDK: | not unless you want realtime |
| [01:21:00] | redfox: | realtime as in live tv? |
| [01:21:00] | PatrickDK: | no |
| [01:21:00] | redfox: | or is realtime just a priority level? |
| [01:21:00] | PatrickDK: | yes |
| [01:21:00] | redfox: | alright I guess my problem is unrelated then |
| [01:22:00] | snerfu: | Do I need to have a variable after the change channel command, here is what I have: "/usr/local/bin/channel". I can change the channel manually running it with the channel number, but I can't get it to work from inside mythtv |
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| [01:23:00] | snerfu: | I probably should have fit a question mark in there somewhere. |
| [01:23:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, and periods |
| [01:23:00] | snerfu: | I tried the tuner preset channel at 3 and 4 as well, according to some mailing lists. |
| [01:24:00] | snerfu: | Yeah, periods. I messed up. |
| [01:24:00] | snerfu: | The quality is nice on svideo though. |
| [01:25:00] | mchou: | Juski: I've seen some 878 with fantastic quality |
| [01:25:00] | mchou: | even better than 150's |
| [01:25:00] | Juski: | ah well... I can't know everything ;) |
| [01:25:00] | redfox: | how do I change which recording profile is used? |
| [01:25:00] | mchou: | I have an older 878 that I wouldnt part for all the money in the world...... |
| [01:26:00] | redfox: | under setup, there are 3 or 4 of them listed |
| [01:26:00] | mchou: | cause the PQ is better than my 150s. |
| [01:26:00] | snerfu: | I fixed it, I did not restart the mythbackend. |
| [01:26:00] | mchou: | Juski: I also have 2 878s that are considerably worse though. |
| [01:27:00] | mchou: | Juski: so it's all a crapshoot. |
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| [01:27:00] | snerfu: | I have a nasty quality 878 that I retired. |
| [01:28:00] | Juski: | yeh – will probably depend a lot on the design of the card |
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| [01:31:00] | hexbox: | hi, my mythtv is windowed (i can see the taskbar at the bottom), can someone help me fix it? :s |
| [01:33:00] | PatrickDK: | ya, turn that option back off |
| [01:33:00] | hexbox: | how? |
| [01:33:00] | PatrickDK: | it's a check box, you uncheck it |
| [01:33:00] | hexbox: | lol |
| [01:34:00] | hexbox: | you could be more specific |
| [01:34:00] | hexbox: | i dont see an option for windowed mode |
| [01:34:00] | PatrickDK: | mythfrontend -> setup -> tv settings -> playback |
| [01:34:00] | PatrickDK: | heh |
| [01:36:00] | hexbox: | theres nothing in there for that |
| [01:36:00] | PatrickDK: | maybe it was under general |
| [01:36:00] | PatrickDK: | it's there |
| [01:37:00] | PatrickDK: | and I'm not going go looking for it |
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| [01:37:00] | hexbox: | hmm |
| [01:37:00] | hexbox: | can you tell me how to fix the time at least? |
| [01:38:00] | PatrickDK: | time? |
| [01:38:00] | PatrickDK: | you need ntp for that :) |
| [01:38:00] | hexbox: | its 7 hours off |
| [01:38:00] | hexbox: | stp? |
| [01:38:00] | hexbox: | whats that |
| [01:38:00] | hexbox: | my system clock is correct |
| [01:38:00] | hexbox: | so is my BIOS clock |
| [01:38:00] | hexbox: | but the mythtv clock is way off |
| [01:39:00] | hexbox: | ohh you mean ntp, my distro pulls the time off a server every reboot |
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| [01:40:00] | Juski: | you mean the EPG is out of sync with real time? |
| [01:41:00] | hfghfh: | which distribution do you guys recomend for use with mythtv. |
| [01:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | hfghfh: Whatever one you are most competant with |
| [01:42:00] | hexbox: | i dont know |
| [01:42:00] | hexbox: | all i know is my time is way off |
| [01:42:00] | hexbox: | in mythtv |
| [01:42:00] | Juski: | what time? |
| [01:42:00] | Juski: | in the program guide? |
| [01:42:00] | hexbox: | 11:41 PM |
| [01:42:00] | hexbox: | no, like when i watch tv |
| [01:42:00] | hexbox: | the time display |
| [01:42:00] | hexbox: | and the program guide as well |
| [01:43:00] | redfox: | which is better quality; svideo or composite? |
| [01:43:00] | Juski: | have you set the right locale for your timezone? |
| [01:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | redfox: svideo |
| [01:43:00] | PatrickDK: | svideo |
| [01:43:00] | PatrickDK: | unless it's a shitty svideo device |
| [01:43:00] | hexbox: | its set to PDT in my distro |
| [01:43:00] | redfox: | ok svideo it is |
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| [01:43:00] | Juski: | well, hexbox.. is PDT your timezone? |
| [01:43:00] | hexbox: | which is pacific daylight time |
| [01:43:00] | hexbox: | yes it is |
| [01:45:00] | hfghfh: | fedora then, but im having big troble getting the frontend to start. it just segfaults without a clue to what is wrong |
| [01:45:00] | Juski: | hmm I wonder why so many people choose fedora for mythtv... |
| [01:46:00] | redfox: | can anyone recommend a good remote for myth? |
| [01:46:00] | hfghfh: | now i have started to recompile the atrpms mythtvpackage |
| [01:46:00] | redfox: | I was thinking about getting a fancy one with an lcd, but that probably would be excessive |
| [01:46:00] | hfghfh: | juski what distribution are you using |
| [01:46:00] | hfghfh: | redfox, the ms mce remote is quite good |
| [01:46:00] | Juski: | gentoo.. was a loooooooooong install 1st time around.. a friend was talking me though it – had me compiling X & gnome from zip |
| [01:47:00] | redfox: | hfghfh, ok thanks |
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| [01:47:00] | Juski: | I upgraded the backend machine a while back, and the install took about half a day including a long lunchbreak |
| [01:48:00] | hfghfh: | that loooong time is my experience with gentoo too, one time i hade a celeron 400 with only 128 ram compiling xfree and kde for a whole week |
| [01:48:00] | Juski: | hahaha |
| [01:48:00] | Juski: | shoulda used the package CDs |
| [01:49:00] | Juski: | so it takes longer to download, but hey if you've not got a dcc cluster handy... |
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| [01:50:00] | hfghfh: | yes, as soon as you update with that emerge stuff, it will try to fetch, compile and install the newest version ----> back to square one :-) |
| [01:50:00] | Juski: | lol – update portage AFTER installing the packages |
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| [01:51:00] | Juski: | redfox.. people have been saying nice things about the logitech harmony series of remotes |
| [01:51:00] | Juski: | still leaves you needing an IR receiver though, redfox |
| [01:52:00] | redfox: | Juski, yeah I'm planning on buying or building one soon |
| [01:53:00] | hfghfh: | maybe i shuld give gentoo one more chance. one nice thing with gentoo is that you can always find and install the bleeding egde versions |
| [01:53:00] | Juski: | I choose to run only stable stuff.. suits me fine & I get the features I want |
| [01:53:00] | mchou: | I think harmony remote is way overpriced |
| [01:54:00] | mchou: | just get a OFA JP1 remote from ratshack for less than $30 |
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| [01:55:00] | hfghfh: | so how long do ya think recompiling mythtv takes |
| [01:55:00] | Juski: | mchou – I've got a OFA 6 |
| [01:55:00] | mchou: | Juski: is it JP1? |
| [01:55:00] | Juski: | hfghfh... on a 2ghz athlon.. about an hour |
| [01:55:00] | Chutt: | i don't think the harmonys are overpriced at all |
| [01:55:00] | Juski: | yep, mchou |
| [01:55:00] | hfghfh: | im using a a64@3200 with 1gb ram |
| [01:56:00] | Juski: | maybe a little over 10–15 minutes then, hfghfh |
| [01:56:00] | mchou: | Juski: so you found OFA 6 JP1 inadequate? |
| [01:56:00] | Juski: | no i didn't... not in the slightest |
| [01:57:00] | Juski: | was just a bit of a bitch to reprogram at first |
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| [01:57:00] | mchou: | Juski: yeah.... |
| [01:57:00] | Juski: | but then.. for mythtv I 'invented' a remote config based on the RC5 protocol |
| [01:57:00] | mchou: | yeah, that works |
| [01:57:00] | hfghfh: | hmm. that @ is easy to missinterpret as meaning mhz, i was refering to amd:s 3200 classification. so its just running at 2 GHz |
| [01:58:00] | Juski: | then I learned it with irrecord :) |
| [01:58:00] | Juski: | coz not all of the available 'emulated' remotes had enough buttons – at least ones which wouldn't also work my existing kit |
| [01:59:00] | Juski: | could probably do with some more buttons though, so I can access the time-compression feature faster.. I use that a lot |
| [01:59:00] | hfghfh: | the rpmrebuild failed :-( |
| [01:59:00] | hfghfh: | but the fun part is that now mythfrontend starts :-) |
| [02:01:00] | hfghfh: | hmm im getting tired of this, it just segfaulted again :-( |
| [02:01:00] | Juski: | I should really be thrashing my hacked mythtv code now instead of doing all this boring file copying |
| [02:02:00] | Juski: | (damn hard drives) |
| [02:03:00] | Juski: | hfghfh... which version are you using? |
| [02:04:00] | hfghfh: | mythtv v0.18.1 |
| [02:05:00] | Juski: | might be something wrong with a dependent package.. |
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| [02:05:00] | hfghfh: | on fedora 4 x86_64 |
| [02:05:00] | Juski: | nvidia? |
| [02:05:00] | hfghfh: | problably, but how do i find out wich one |
| [02:06:00] | hfghfh: | yes nvidadriver 7676 |
| [02:06:00] | Juski: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-21.html#ss21.2 |
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| [02:09:00] | hfghfh: | but, then is it worth the effort or should i just capitulate and install gentoo or ubuntu |
| [02:10:00] | Juski: | well, gentoo will take a while, but it **should** just work.. not sure about 64-bit though |
| [02:11:00] | kormoc: | gentoo works fine with 64 bit now, iirc |
| [02:11:00] | Juski: | cool – that friend who introduced me to mythtv & linux.. he tried 64bit gentoo a while – had nothing but grief |
| [02:12:00] | hfghfh: | that is what they say about fedora 4 too, but i have still a lot of problem with it |
| [02:12:00] | hfghfh: | but then, gentoo has a litet faster development pace than moste other distributions |
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| [02:13:00] | Juski: | FC almost put me off linux.. but then it turned out I hadn't bothered to MD5 check the files before I burnt the CDs |
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| [02:13:00] | kormoc: | I just don't like rpm based distros |
| [02:13:00] | kormoc: | way too many problems imho |
| [02:15:00] | Juski: | and if you ever wanna put your own features in, you have to compile from source at some point ;) |
| [02:17:00] | hfghfh: | the problem is not the rpms, but instead that you usually is mixing them from different sources |
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| [02:17:00] | hfghfh: | you can compile the source with rpms too. thats what the srpms are for |
| [02:20:00] | Juski: | I think it's time I wasn't here... |
| [02:20:00] | Juski: | night all |
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| [02:23:00] | hfghfh: | god night on you too |
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| [02:44:00] | jcw: | Is the Hauppauge WinTV 401 card still a card of choice? Or is there a better choice available now? |
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| [02:52:00] | Krazylegz: | PVR-250? |
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| [02:54:00] | piksel: | grr... I just decided to upgrade from 0.16 to 0.18 today, and now I can't watch shows anymore! It says "Unable to initialize video" and from google searches, everyone seems to be able to fix this by disabling XvMN, which I can't really seem to find in the settings. |
| [02:57:00] | jcw: | What makes the PVR-250 better? |
| [02:57:00] | xris: | piksel: compile option, maybe? |
| [02:58:00] | PatrickDK: | no, tv playback option |
| [02:58:00] | PatrickDK: | but yes, you have to turn it on at compile time also |
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| [03:26:00] | pyrodex: | Anyone know why I would have trouble generating a PNG and get the following error in backend logs? 2005-09–19 21:25:07.629 Invalid file handle when opening /video/recordings/1043_20050905230000_20050905233000.nuv.png. 0 retries remaining. |
| [03:26:00] | pyrodex: | The video plays fine. |
| [03:28:00] | Krazylegz: | Does that .png file exist? |
| [03:29:00] | pyrodex: | No, the file isn't getting created. I touched the file hoping it would see it at 0 bytes and remake it but no luck. Mythweb just shows a broken image then |
| [03:30:00] | Krazylegz: | Other thumbnails are created correctly? |
| [03:30:00] | pyrodex: | Yea, just this one show. I recorded about 3 shows today and this is the only one that didn't work. |
| [03:31:00] | pyrodex: | Is there like a mpg check util to run against it too see any bad frames or issues with the file? |
| [03:33:00] | Krazylegz: | Probably. |
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| [03:43:00] | k-man: | is there a way to get mythtv to warn you that its not going to record something because of lack of disk space? |
| [03:44:00] | Krazylegz: | I wish. |
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| [03:47:00] | adante: | oh my system, mythtv warns me by freezing :] |
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| [03:54:00] | piksel: | for a PVR-350, what is the normal output, /dev/video16? |
| [03:59:00] | Krazylegz: | Yes. |
| [03:59:00] | Krazylegz: | dd if=/dev/video0 of=/dev/video16 bs=64k will take input from the PVR-350 and output through the output. |
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| [04:06:00] | PatrickDK: | only if passthrough mode is off |
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| [04:15:00] | funkyelf: | whats up guys, I only have one dvd burner here. It's sitting in it's retail box. I'm trying to decide wether to put it in my mythtv box or to put it in my windows box. I'd like to be able to burn dvd's of programs I record, but I'd also like to use dvdsrhink on Windows. Does anyone here know of any kind of dvdshrink-like software for linux? |
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| [04:51:00] | CyberKnet: | *YawN* |
| [04:52:00] | ** xris dumps coffee on CyberKnet ** | |
| [04:53:00] | xris: | man, I wish that a bunch of this nuv info like resolution was stored in the db. |
| [04:53:00] | xris: | would make nuvexport so much easier to deal with. |
| [04:53:00] | CyberKnet: | yeah. |
| [04:53:00] | CyberKnet: | my IR keyboard got borked today |
| [04:54:00] | redfox: | there is a horizontal green bar flashing at the very bottom of my tv input... has anyone had this happen before? |
| [04:54:00] | redfox: | using a pvr150 |
| [04:55:00] | xris: | redfox: how big? |
| [04:55:00] | redfox: | maybe 2–3 pixels |
| [04:56:00] | redfox: | it seems to be broken into 3 sections |
| [04:56:00] | redfox: | left, middle, and right |
| [04:56:00] | redfox: | and they flash independantly |
| [04:57:00] | xris: | redfox: most likely part of the broadcast overscan region (or whatever it's called) |
| [04:57:00] | xris: | about 2% of the each side of the picture is "reserved" for noise correction, etc. |
| [04:58:00] | redfox: | xris, I see |
| [04:58:00] | CyberKnet: | bbl |
| [04:58:00] | redfox: | probably when I hook up a tv I can scroll it off the screen then |
| [04:58:00] | xris: | that's why myth has overscan settings |
| [04:59:00] | redfox: | overscan is on tv output, correct? |
| [04:59:00] | xris: | well, there's X overscan, which is part of the video card config.. and then there's a sort of "zoom" overscan that's done within myth (if I'm remembering correctly) |
| [05:00:00] | redfox: | ok thanks |
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| [05:00:00] | xris: | w00t. I think I'm now only missing 3 episodes of Good Eats. heh. |
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| [05:04:00] | Krazylegz: | That guy is great. |
| [05:04:00] | Krazylegz: | Aaron something? |
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| [05:09:00] | xris: | alton brown |
| [05:09:00] | xris: | and yes, my favorite tv chef. |
| [05:09:00] | xris: | cool, I think I have nuvexport working with custom filenames now. |
| [05:14:00] | CyberKnet: | anyone know a good (cheap + quality product + reliable) place online to get rechargable AA batteries? |
| [05:17:00] | Krazylegz: | Yes, Alton Brown. I love that guy. |
| [05:17:00] | ** xris kicks yuvdenoise ** | |
| [05:18:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: online? there was a deal at compusa or something awhile back for NiMH ones... google site:hotdealsclub.com |
| [05:18:00] | xris: | or fatwallet |
| [05:19:00] | xris: | someone want to grab the latest nuvexport and tell me if it still works with pre-svn myth? |
| [05:23:00] | xris: | ok, off to go make myself some dessert... |
| [05:23:00] | Krazylegz: | Alton Brown style! |
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| [05:37:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: almost |
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| [05:50:00] | xris: | man, and I finally get the broken preview pixmapin mythweb. FUN. |
| [05:50:00] | xris: | more stuff to fix. |
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| [05:55:00] | hexbox: | my tv listings are screwed up, how do i fix them |
| [05:55:00] | xris: | hexbox: please be a little more vague. |
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| [05:56:00] | hexbox: | for example, family guy is supposed to start at 11pm tonight, but its a early morning kids cartoon instead |
| [05:56:00] | hexbox: | the date and time are correct |
| [05:57:00] | hexbox: | but the listings time slots are 7 hours or so off |
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| [06:02:00] | hexbox: | my listings are all out of place compared to my timezone.. how do i match the times? |
| [06:02:00] | hexbox: | or fix the listings databse? |
| [06:02:00] | hexbox: | database** |
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| [06:09:00] | hexbox: | my listings are all out of place compared to my timezone.. how do i match the times? |
| [06:09:00] | hexbox: | or fix the listings databse? |
| [06:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | well, you stop repeating your self, and make a guess that MAYBE your time settings are causing a problem |
| [06:10:00] | hexbox: | no |
| [06:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | Odds are you have (or your distro did by itself) told your OS that the PC clock is set to UTC/GMT and not to the local time |
| [06:10:00] | hexbox: | the time settings are RIGHT ON |
| [06:10:00] | hexbox: | both in the distro and in mythtv |
| [06:11:00] | hexbox: | its just the shows under the timeslot that are screwed up |
| [06:11:00] | hexbox: | example.. |
| [06:11:00] | hexbox: | right now its 9pm |
| [06:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't need examples |
| [06:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've seen your examples |
| [06:11:00] | hexbox: | and it says 12:00 news is on |
| [06:11:00] | hexbox: | well? |
| [06:11:00] | hexbox: | its not the time settings, if they are set properly |
| [06:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | Then either your time is off, OR datadirect is really fscked up for your area |
| [06:12:00] | hexbox: | how do i reload datadirect |
| [06:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'd rerun timeconfig to verify that your stuff is set to localtime |
| [06:12:00] | hexbox: | in terminal? |
| [06:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [06:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | Though your distro might use another tool to config all the time stuff |
| [06:12:00] | DarkBeer: | knoppmyth? |
| [06:12:00] | hexbox: | fedora core |
| [06:12:00] | hexbox: | (red hat) |
| [06:13:00] | DarkBeer: | that's what I run (fc). previously had a time problem with knopp, but just a case of not reading directions |
| [06:13:00] | hexbox: | should i recreate a new zip2it acct |
| [06:14:00] | hexbox: | and give it the new account/pw |
| [06:14:00] | hexbox: | in the setup? |
| [06:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well if you are just gonna get the same zipcode/listings that wont change anything |
| [06:14:00] | hexbox: | no but my time was scewed up badly before |
| [06:14:00] | hexbox: | i just fixed the time |
| [06:14:00] | hexbox: | but the listings stayed the same |
| [06:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | well, It's not like myth knew you had fixed things. Wipe the programs table and run mythfilldatabase again |
| [06:15:00] | hexbox: | ok |
| [06:15:00] | hexbox: | how would i do that greyfoxx |
| [06:15:00] | hexbox: | im sorry, i dont know everything about myth, i just got it running today :s |
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| [06:16:00] | hexbox: | i know about mythfilldatabase |
| [06:16:00] | hexbox: | but i dont know how to wipe the program table |
| [06:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | You have to login to mysql |
| [06:16:00] | hexbox: | ok |
| [06:16:00] | hexbox: | hold on |
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| [06:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | and do a "delete from program;" |
| [06:17:00] | hexbox: | to login, is it.. |
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| [06:17:00] | hexbox: | musql -u root mysql |
| [06:17:00] | hexbox: | mysql** |
| [06:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | what user did you tell mythtv to connect to the database as ? |
| [06:17:00] | redfox: | mysql -u root -p |
| [06:18:00] | hexbox: | ERROR 1046 (3D000): No database selected |
| [06:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | what user did you tell mythtv to connect to the database as ? |
| [06:18:00] | hexbox: | hex01A4 |
| [06:19:00] | hexbox: | thats my zip2it acct |
| [06:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | what user did you tell mythtv to use to connect to the mysql database. |
| [06:19:00] | redfox: | hexbox, you can see that under myth setup |
| [06:19:00] | hexbox: | ok let me check |
| [06:20:00] | hexbox: | root |
| [06:20:00] | hexbox: | i believe |
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| [06:21:00] | hexbox: | hex01A4 is for zip2it |
| [06:21:00] | hexbox: | mythtv is the user that runs mythtv |
| [06:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | mysql -uUSER -pPASSWORD mythconverg |
| [06:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | you fill in the right info |
| [06:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | then once you are in |
| [06:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | delete from program; |
| [06:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | exit |
| [06:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | then run mythfilldatabase again |
| [06:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | It will redownload the next 12 or so days of listings |
| [06:22:00] | hexbox: | [root@dhcppc0 mythtv]# mysql -uUSER -pPASSWORD mythconverg |
| [06:22:00] | hexbox: | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'USER'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| [06:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | ok. time for some independant thought |
| [06:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | "you fill in the right info" |
| [06:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | as in you replace USER/PASSWORD with the proper info |
| [06:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sorry, but my tolerance level is very low tonight |
| [06:23:00] | hexbox: | ok its root |
| [06:23:00] | hexbox: | thats the user |
| [06:23:00] | hexbox: | im in mysql > |
| [06:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | ok |
| [06:24:00] | hexbox: | delete from program; |
| [06:24:00] | hexbox: | ? |
| [06:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | and you make sure to place that mythconverg part on there too right ? |
| [06:24:00] | hexbox: | yes |
| [06:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah that should do it |
| [06:24:00] | hexbox: | ok |
| [06:24:00] | hexbox: | done |
| [06:24:00] | hexbox: | now what? |
| [06:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | now just exit and rerun mythfilldatabase |
| [06:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | If afterward the listings are still messed then either your time is not fixed correctly, you have some weird bug, or zap2it is providing you will some really messed up listings |
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| [06:29:00] | hexbox: | its all unknown at 8:30 |
| [06:29:00] | hexbox: | 9:30** |
| [06:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | it finished redownloading everything already? Pretty quick |
| [06:29:00] | hexbox: | 10:00, 10:30, and 11:00pm |
| [06:29:00] | hexbox: | all Unknown |
| [06:29:00] | hexbox: | but it starts to show listings from there on |
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| [06:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | do they look like they line up with what you expect to see ? |
| [06:30:00] | hexbox: | let me see |
| [06:30:00] | ** GreyFoxx listens to his bed calling his name ** | |
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| [06:33:00] | Krazylegz: | Evil sirens be there. I try to stay away from my bed as much as possible. |
| [06:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | But I LOVE my bed. It rocks |
| [06:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | I think I must go cuddle with it. *p00f* |
| [06:35:00] | hexbox: | heh |
| [06:35:00] | hexbox: | i love you greyfoxx |
| [06:35:00] | hexbox: | in a plutonic way |
| [06:35:00] | hexbox: | :p |
| [06:36:00] | Krazylegz: | I guess that means you got your listings fixed? |
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| [07:53:00] | taer: | I'm having issues setting my audio to ALSA:default instead of OSS emulation mode of /dev/dsp. I have an old frame grabber, and /dev/dsp is working.. I'd like to use ALSA though. using mplayers ALSA support works perfect. |
| [07:53:00] | taer: | mythtv-setup just refuses to save the ALSA:default for the audio device |
| [07:53:00] | taer: | any help? |
| [07:54:00] | Agrajag-: | well you don't do that setting in mythtv-setup |
| [07:54:00] | Agrajag-: | you do it in mythfrontend |
| [07:55:00] | taer: | ok.. well, I have one of those cards that do the audio out, so my soundcard will be doing the actual recording. |
| [07:56:00] | taer: | im gonna buy a PVR150, but this is a quick trial for the wife to see how it compares to a tivo |
| [07:57:00] | taer: | this is for the backend setup so that it will record using the ALSA device instead of OSS, but I suppose its ok for temp |
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| [08:01:00] | stoffel_: | afaik the backend always uses OSS |
| [08:01:00] | taer: | ahh. |
| [08:01:00] | taer: | what is the mixder device for ALSA? |
| [08:02:00] | Agrajag-: | default |
| [08:02:00] | taer: | just default, or ALSA:default |
| [08:03:00] | taer: | ah |
| [08:03:00] | taer: | default |
| [08:03:00] | taer: | the other is ALSA:default. |
| [08:03:00] | taer: | thanks |
| [08:08:00] | Agrajag-: | yep |
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| [08:10:00] | xris: | fyi for those who care.. mythweb preview pixmaps work in svn again. |
| [08:10:00] | xris: | nuvexport should work with svn now, too. |
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| [08:12:00] | gnuyen: | hi guys |
| [08:12:00] | gnuyen: | i just built mythtv from source |
| [08:12:00] | gnuyen: | and now it says can't find theme G.A.N.T |
| [08:12:00] | gnuyen: | but it's in /usr/share/mythtv/themes |
| [08:13:00] | gnuyen: | do i have to export some kinda variable to tell it where it is? |
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| [08:24:00] | Agrajag-: | did you build from source and change the prefix so it's not /usr/local ? |
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| [08:27:00] | gnuyen: | i built from source |
| [08:28:00] | gnuyen: | and i changed the prefix |
| [08:28:00] | gnuyen: | in the configure script |
| [08:29:00] | Agrajag-: | ok that's a rather stupid thing to do but ok |
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| [09:05:00] | harryman100: | hi, anyone else in the UK, having problems with the Radio times xmltv? |
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| [09:39:00] | gnuyen: | i did |
| [09:39:00] | gnuyen: | ./configure --prefix=~/ |
| [09:39:00] | gnuyen: | it can't find GANT |
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| [09:51:00] | metusine: | i recently upgraded to a sb live sound card, and now instead of having controls PCM, MASTER etc, I've got Analog Front, Analog Rear etc. Myth now (of course) can't find the line in and I get no sound on my recordings. |
| [09:51:00] | metusine: | anyone know how I should go about convincing mythtv to use the new card? |
| [09:53:00] | eiggirC: | sounds like a settings thing |
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| [10:06:00] | metusine: | yeah |
| [10:06:00] | metusine: | but i can't work out where |
| [10:07:00] | metusine: | or whether it's possible to rename alsa devices so it has the PCM, MASTER etc |
| [10:12:00] | eiggirC: | try mythtv's setup program |
| [10:16:00] | Agrajag-: | metusine: make myth use alsa |
| [10:16:00] | Agrajag-: | for the audio output device put ALSA:default |
| [10:17:00] | Agrajag-: | for the mixer, put just 'default' |
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| [11:08:00] | metusine: | Agrajag-: the output does work |
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| [11:08:00] | metusine: | i can play movies fin |
| [11:08:00] | metusine: | e |
| [11:08:00] | metusine: | it's just the recording |
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| [11:20:00] | Twiun: | good morning |
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| [12:34:00] | Twiun: | hmmm, I'm seeing a lot of mentions of technotrend dvb cards being usable – anyone know of a supplier in the uk? |
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| [12:47:00] | asdfasdf: | i'm getting ready to install mythtv and i'm checking to see if my hardware works properly before i install gentoo... in windows, my geforce fx 5200 outputs to tv (composite) fine except when outputting video such as tv video or just regular movies using windows media player... instead of the video being displayed, a black box is displayed where the video should be... anyone have any idea why this is happenning? |
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| [12:49:00] | Twiun: | I'm thinking that those players use video overlay for playback – iirc that doesn't end up in the tv-out |
| [12:51:00] | secretz: | anyone know if it's feasible to setup mythtv on ati rs300? |
| [12:51:00] | asdfasdf: | ok, well will i have this issue after i install gentoo/mythtv? |
| [12:51:00] | Twiun: | asdfasdf: that I don't know – I'm a mythtv wannabe too ;-) |
| [12:51:00] | asdfasdf: | haha |
| [12:52:00] | Twiun: | I'm speccing out the box atm and reading all the howtos |
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| [13:04:00] | jnc: | Twiun: use an Hauppage pvr 250 (*not* pvr 250 mce), the pvr 350, or the mce 500 |
| [13:04:00] | Twiun: | jnc: they're really attractive – but not dvb as far as I can tell, only analogue |
| [13:05:00] | jnc: | ohhh |
| [13:05:00] | jnc: | i forgot, 'dvb' |
| [13:05:00] | Twiun: | ;) |
| [13:05:00] | Twiun: | it's a shame as I'm really interested in a via system |
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| [13:17:00] | PatrickDK: | what does a via system have to do wtih anything? |
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| [13:25:00] | jnc: | BECAUSE VIA IS TEH AWHSUMM |
| [13:25:00] | jnc: | sorry |
| [13:25:00] | jnc: | little outburst WORSHIP VIA there |
| [13:25:00] | jnc: | i'm better now, really. i promise. |
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| [13:26:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, I think I'm just going go with a p4m motherboard/cpu |
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| [14:03:00] | Twiun: | PatrickDK: via has something to do with it as the itx boards usually have a mpeg2 decoder onboard – whereas the dvb cards don't |
| [14:04:00] | Twiun: | PatrickDK: but I'm just looking at practicalities |
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| [14:14:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Hi there, is there a way to disable the signal monitoring patch stuff, short of reverting to an older version of MythTV? |
| [14:15:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | My problem is that I think signal montitoring has broken the use of both my USB based DVB tuners, so I want to turn it off to test if this is the case. |
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| [15:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | dopester: You around ? |
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| [15:40:00] | dopester: | yep |
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| [15:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm looking to pick up and air2pc to test out the rumours that the local HDTV over cable is in the clear |
| [15:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | and was wondering which of the 3 generations of cards you would pick if it was you |
| [15:41:00] | dopester: | well the 3rd works for qam i tested it |
| [15:42:00] | dopester: | the 2nd doesn't work very well at all (consider it 8vsb only) |
| [15:42:00] | dopester: | i have no idea about the 1st gen although i do have one sitting my desk bbti sent me |
| [15:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [15:43:00] | dopester: | it uses such an old 8vsb demodulator i figure its worthless to me unless it does qam |
| [15:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | I imagine it will be a while before one of the 3rd gen makes it to ebay, so look like I'll have to buy retail |
| [15:43:00] | fryfrog: | how much are they? |
| [15:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | ~170USD |
| [15:43:00] | fryfrog: | oh, kinda ouch |
| [15:44:00] | fryfrog: | i should get my pvr250 + crapcast box working and record HD over svideo! |
| [15:44:00] | fryfrog: | rule! |
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| [15:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | I just wish I could verify that it would work without spending the cash. But oh well. Just have to bite the bullet |
| [15:46:00] | dopester: | teh 3rd gen does do qam |
| [15:46:00] | dopester: | 256 and 64 |
| [15:47:00] | dopester: | but as for them being in teh clear thats debatable |
| [15:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | I meant that the local stuff is in the clear :) I trust that it will work hardware wise :) |
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| [15:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [15:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | well I guess if anything I could sell it on ebay and at least get some of the $$$ back if it doesn't work locally :) |
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| [15:55:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: do you have an asterisk server |
| [15:55:00] | sphing: | OT i know |
| [15:55:00] | dopester: | is this channel ever on topic? :) |
| [15:55:00] | sphing: | hehe |
| [15:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: Yes |
| [15:56:00] | sphing: | can i ask you for a small favor... |
| [15:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | The only channel I REALLY try to keep on topic in is #Mythtv :) |
| [15:56:00] | sphing: | i wanted you to give me an extension... for like 15 mins |
| [15:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | errrr |
| [15:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | Why would I want to do that ? |
| [15:56:00] | sphing: | to help me debug |
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| [15:57:00] | sphing: | its just that the hardware i'm trying to connect my asterisk server i think has a bug |
| [15:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | hrm |
| [15:57:00] | sphing: | it ignores the received field in the Via part of the header |
| [15:57:00] | sphing: | i'm pretty sure at least |
| [15:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | 15 minutes, and no fscking around cause I'll be watching |
| [15:57:00] | sphing: | ... not right now... class just let out... in a hour? |
| [15:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | If I'm here I'll set you up with something |
| [15:58:00] | sphing: | im literally going to register... place a call and if it goes through then thats it |
| [15:58:00] | sphing: | ok i gotta go... ill be back.. thx |
| [15:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | Any call you place will be to my cell phone. So it's not costing me money :) |
| [15:59:00] | ** Krazylegz looks up what the heck asterisk is ** | |
| [15:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | Opensource PBX |
| [15:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | SIP/IAX/PSTN/whatever phone server |
| [16:00:00] | Krazylegz: | Private Branch Exchange. |
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| [16:09:00] | rjune: | I should setup asterisk and tie it to my phone line |
| [16:09:00] | rjune: | the continental us is my local calling area |
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| [16:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use it mostly for calling family long distance (bought them some voip phones) and when I travel for work. I can call home, the office, family or whatever and not pay hotel or long distance charges beyond my net connection |
| [16:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | And of course to pop callerid info up on my mythtv screen when I'm watching something :) |
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| [16:15:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [16:15:00] | rjune: | you're using the mythbox as the voip phone? |
| [16:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | nope, different box |
| [16:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | or do you mean the mythphone plugin ? |
| [16:16:00] | rjune: | so what do you use for caller id stuff? |
| [16:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | I get asterisk to spawn mythtvosd with the data, mythtvosd sends it to mythtv |
| [16:17:00] | rjune: | mythtvosd, I'll have to look at that |
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| [16:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | I compiled a version of it without all the normal dependancies for use on that box. Works pretty well |
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| [16:21:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: ya? gyou got the binary handy? |
| [16:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | www.phaze.org/mythtv/mythtvosd |
| [16:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm sure I could remove more. But I just removed what stuff I didn';t have on the asterisk box. |
| [16:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | most of the stuff it's linked against isn't "needed" |
| [16:22:00] | Krazylegz: | Does anyone know if a PVR-500 will fit in a Pundit-R? |
| [16:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | Wooo, my oncall pay arrived. buggers didnt include it in my normal pay deposit |
| [16:24:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: don't need a template? |
| [16:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | rjune: no. You are telling the other end what template to use |
| [16:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | so the template just has to be on the box displaying it |
| [16:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | I only have it broadcasting to my main TV room. I could change it to broadcast to the whole network but haven't bothered since the night I first got it working |
| [16:25:00] | rjune: | can you give me an example of the command? |
| [16:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use this : |
| [16:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | exten => s,2,System(/usr/local/bin/mythtvosd --template=cid --caller_number="${CALLERIDNUM}" --caller_date="${DATETIME:0:2}/${DATETIME:2:2}/${DATETIME:4:4}" --caller_time="${DATETIME:9}" --caller_name="${CALLERIDNAME}" --bcastaddr="192.168.0.10" --udpport="6948" ) |
| [16:26:00] | rjune: | cid is your own template? |
| [16:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | no. It comes with mythtvosd |
| [16:29:00] | rjune: | anything special you have to run on the mythfrontends? |
| [16:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | hrm....... trying to remember if I enabled a setting |
| [16:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | no special apps, but I think there might have been a setting to make it listen for it |
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| [16:30:00] | rjune: | I ran ./mythtvosd --template=cid --caller_number="800" --bcastaddr="192.168.42.21" --udpport="6948", and nothing happened |
| [16:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | Are you playing live/a recording ? |
| [16:31:00] | ** jnc grumbles ** | |
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| [16:31:00] | jnc: | st*upid* mame commandline |
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| [16:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | jnc: heh |
| [16:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | they change something again ? :) |
| [16:32:00] | rjune: | nope, just sitting @ the menu |
| [16:32:00] | jnc: | GreyFoxx: i've got it down to two cases, and every game in mame 0.99 is like 50 50 chance of it working |
| [16:32:00] | jnc: | commandline A works for half the games, commandline B works for the other half |
| [16:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | rjune: the OSD is only available during a recording. So it does nothing during menus |
| [16:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | I mean during playback |
| [16:32:00] | jnc: | but no commandline works for all the !@#$%# games |
| [16:33:00] | rjune: | ah, and it will only work when using mythtv as a tivo |
| [16:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | until some UI rewrites it only useful during livetv/watch recordings or using the internal player to play a video |
| [16:33:00] | rjune: | gotcha |
| [16:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | jnc: Ahh that would bve a pain |
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| [16:33:00] | jnc: | GreyFoxx: do you run mythtv with a WM? |
| [16:34:00] | jnc: | i was running it with no WM, and the movie playing function was not accepting input |
| [16:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | jnc: of course. not using a wm at all is bedding for focus problems |
| [16:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | focus issue |
| [16:34:00] | jnc: | oh okay |
| [16:34:00] | jnc: | which WM do you suggest |
| [16:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | personally I use icewm |
| [16:34:00] | jnc: | 'k |
| [16:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | but anything small and light should be fine |
| [16:35:00] | jnc: | how to tell icewm to die when mythfrontend dies? |
| [16:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | Why would I want it to die ? |
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| [16:35:00] | jnc: | i want to run only mythfrontend when the windowmaker is running |
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| [16:35:00] | fryfrog: | fluxbox is another good small one |
| [16:36:00] | Krazylegz: | evilWM! |
| [16:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | jnc: I don't understand what you mean. So when you close mythfrontend you want the wm to close? |
| [16:36:00] | laga: | jnc: umm, you could use something like 'fluxbox & <linebreak> mythfrontend' in your .xinitrc. when mythfrontend crashes, it will close your Y session. |
| [16:36:00] | jnc: | GreyFoxx: correct |
| [16:36:00] | jnc: | laga: ah.... |
| [16:36:00] | fryfrog: | jnc: make a cronjob instead |
| [16:36:00] | jnc: | yeah that may work |
| [16:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | jnc: I don't see a reason to do that , so I've never looked into configuring anything like that |
| [16:37:00] | fryfrog: | jnc: wait, do you want frontend to re-start on crash? |
| [16:37:00] | fryfrog: | or wm and fe to restart on crash? |
| [16:37:00] | jnc: | fryfrog: yep |
| [16:37:00] | ** sphing *winks* at Greyfoxx ** | |
| [16:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | jnc: That is not what you said. You said you wanted the WINDOWMANAGER to close. |
| [16:37:00] | jnc: | i'm being a tard |
| [16:37:00] | jnc: | sorry |
| [16:37:00] | jnc: | i do appreciate the help and suggestions |
| [16:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | If all you want is for mythfrontend to restart then just run it in some sort of loopping script |
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| [16:38:00] | laga: | i use something like while true; do mythfrontend; done |
| [16:38:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: I set my boxes up so that if the mythfrontend closes, they turn off |
| [16:38:00] | fryfrog: | * * * * * pidof mythfrontend 2>&1 > /dev/null || ( export DISPLAY=":0.0" && mythfrontend 2>&1 > /dev/null & ) |
| [16:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | rjune: I could see setting up the shutdown menu option to shut everything down. But I don't want my X/windowmanager going down if myth crashes :) |
| [16:39:00] | jnc: | in svn sources from a few days ago, i only get one sitting of mythtv and then the 2nd time around, it shows black for about 10 min, then errors out and i think mythbackend is still running, i try a 3rd time and mythbackend crashes |
| [16:39:00] | jnc: | is that expected? |
| [16:39:00] | jnc: | it was a real pain to compile debian packages from svn code, so i ask |
| [16:39:00] | rjune: | jnc: in .Xclients: icewm & while [ 1 ] ; do /usr/bin/mythfrontend ; done |
| [16:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: hold on |
| [16:40:00] | sphing: | can i pm? |
| [16:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [16:40:00] | Beirdo: | add a sleep 1 in there |
| [16:40:00] | Beirdo: | infinite loops are bad without a sleep 1 so you can break them |
| [16:41:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: fair enough |
| [16:42:00] | rjune: | could probably do something like this too |
| [16:43:00] | rjune: | jnc: in .Xclients: icewm & while [ 1 ] ; do /usr/bin/mythfrontend ; if [ $? -eq 0 ] then ; halt ; fi sleep 1 ; done |
| [16:43:00] | Beirdo: | gah |
| [16:43:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [16:43:00] | Beirdo: | I'd never want halt in a script |
| [16:44:00] | Beirdo: | my machines stay running 24/7, no automated "shutdown because a program quit" nonsense for me :) |
| [16:44:00] | rjune: | :-) |
| [16:44:00] | rjune: | we turn off the mythboxes |
| [16:44:00] | Beirdo: | hopefully not a combined backend/frontend then |
| [16:44:00] | rjune: | no |
| [16:44:00] | rjune: | backend is my fileserver |
| [16:45:00] | rjune: | I've got two dedicated frontends currently |
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| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | ah |
| [16:47:00] | Beirdo: | autoshutdown on a combined box is foolish |
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| [16:47:00] | rjune: | if that's the only frontend, then you may as well |
| [16:47:00] | rjune: | it's when you have multiple frontends that its bad |
| [16:47:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [16:48:00] | Beirdo: | if it's the only frontend or not, shutting down the machine that's going to RECORD in the middle of the night... dumb |
| [16:48:00] | rjune: | fair enough, but if you're not going to be using it for anything turn it off and save the juice |
| [16:49:00] | fryfrog: | save oj? |
| [16:49:00] | Beirdo: | that's why myth has some built-in suspend support for the backends |
| [16:49:00] | fryfrog: | i thougtht he got away with it :/ |
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| [17:30:00] | twitchmax: | morning all.... |
| [17:30:00] | twitchmax: | i'm having an issue with echo problems.. when i mute the mic, i get no audio, but without the mic muted i get echo |
| [17:31:00] | twitchmax: | how do i fix this |
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| [17:31:00] | twitchmax: | i'm almost to the point of using a hammer on it |
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| [17:32:00] | laga: | unmute the mic and turn its volume to 0% |
| [17:32:00] | twitchmax: | i did that, get no audio then |
| [17:33:00] | twitchmax: | is there any way to cap. w/o the mic cable? |
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| [17:49:00] | twitchmax: | how do i tell mythtv to use btaudio? |
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| [17:51:00] | diamon: | So, somewhere in a change to using the ivtv-0.3.x driver and the related upgrades (FC3 system) I've managed to make GLX mad so it SIG11's if X tries to load it. Anyone happen to know offhand what I should reinstall or recompile to correct GLX's problem? |
| [17:52:00] | laga: | just don't load GLX? |
| [17:53:00] | diamon: | Yep, that works, but I'd rather understand the problem instead of ignore it. Seems kind of windows-ish that way... |
| [17:54:00] | rjune: | diamon: you usin atrpms? |
| [17:54:00] | diamon: | Yep. |
| [17:54:00] | rjune: | thats your problem |
| [17:55:00] | diamon: | Oooookay.... |
| [17:55:00] | rjune: | i'm not being a smart ass. |
| [17:55:00] | rjune: | atrpms is a known unreliable repo that WILL eventually screw your system |
| [17:55:00] | diamon: | Ah, so it's just a bum compile of something? |
| [17:55:00] | rjune: | probably |
| [17:56:00] | rjune: | my advice to you is use fedora + fedora extras + livna |
| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | ewww |
| [17:56:00] | diamon: | Any idea what the hell GLX is part of so I can reinstall that, or recompile it? |
| [17:56:00] | rjune: | then enable atrpms ONLY when you have to |
| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | atrpms has always worked fine for me |
| [17:56:00] | Beirdo: | but then again, I refuse to go past FC1 |
| [17:57:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: in #fedora we get one or two systems a week that have been thrashed by atrpms |
| [17:57:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, and likely hundreds that haven't |
| [17:57:00] | Beirdo: | if not thousands |
| [17:57:00] | rjune: | doubtrul |
| [17:57:00] | Beirdo: | just because one or two people are retarded doesn't mean the repo is bad |
| [17:58:00] | rjune: | no, because the repo randomly overwrites core packages, and regularly thrashes systems means it's bad |
| [17:58:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:58:00] | Beirdo: | the people LET it do it |
| [17:59:00] | Chutt: | http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050920/sftu082.html?.v=26 |
| [17:59:00] | Beirdo: | people who blindly upgrade deserve what they get |
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| [18:00:00] | Beirdo: | nice stuff, Chutt :) |
| [18:00:00] | Chutt: | component out on the motherboard |
| [18:00:00] | Beirdo: | that will be sweet |
| [18:01:00] | Beirdo: | especially once the Linux drivers support it well. :) |
| [18:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | Are there any boards available yet with dvi out? |
| [18:01:00] | rjune: | packagers that push shit packages deserve a boot to the head |
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| [18:10:00] | diamon: | Yeh, but I still need to figure out what houses the GLX function so I can see about fixing it... Bah. |
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| [18:19:00] | diamon: | Hmmm, it's here somewhere... I'm starting to think it's part of X itself, and I don't recall touching X... Maybe a library. Let's see... |
| [18:20:00] | rjune: | diamon: xorg=x11 |
| [18:20:00] | rjune: | gah, xorg-x11 |
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| [18:24:00] | diamon: | Thanks, I'll hit that package, see what it does... |
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| [18:26:00] | rjune: | diamon: you might consider uninstalling xorg-* and grabbing the packages from fedora-updates |
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| [18:36:00] | diamon: | rjune: Messed up my network conenction there. :P Anyway, I like that idea, reinstalling all the xorg-* stuff without atrpms in the list, I'll see what that does. |
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| [18:36:00] | guitar256: | hey all, what's the best way to rip DVDs (avi/mpeg) to watch em in myth? |
| [18:38:00] | pyrodex: | Does anyone here have the following setup maybe they can enlighten me on? I have a PVR350 attached to a DCT6200 via Svideo and I using the firewire to change the channges, I have a second dCT6200 and I want to attach that via firewire to change channels and use as a second tuner and hdtv capture. Does anyone know if I need to create more than one raw1394 /dev entry? plugreport shows both boxes |
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| [18:40:00] | xris: | GreyFoxx: you see that I fixed the mythweb preview pixmap issue? |
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| [18:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | I didn't realize there was an issue |
| [18:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | My pixmaps appear to be working fine |
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| [18:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | What was the problem ? |
| [18:44:00] | rocket: | I have a question about the fonts on the system. My fonts are always huge and dont fit into the space on the OSD what am I doing wrong or where can I go read on how to fix this? |
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| [18:50:00] | pyrodex: | Does anyone here have the following setup maybe they can enlighten me on? I have a PVR350 attached to a DCT6200 via Svideo and I using the firewire to change the channges, I have a second dCT6200 and I want to attach that via firewire to change channels and use as a second tuner and hdtv capture. Does anyone know if I need to create more than one raw1394 /dev entry? plugreport shows both boxes |
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| [19:28:00] | LarruManChu: | what's the proceedure for setting pvr-350 output to xv in myth? I'm currently running 0.17 but it should be the same. |
| [19:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | there is nothing myth specific |
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| [19:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | if you configure the ivtv drivers and the 350's x driver (with a version that supports the xv output) then you are done |
| [19:30:00] | LarruManChu: | is there any way to check that I'm indeed using xv for output? |
| [19:30:00] | dev-: | now if you can just lay that out in bullet points and provide commands for him |
| [19:30:00] | dev-: | he'll be happy |
| [19:30:00] | dev-: | :) |
| [19:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | larry: just make sure that the 350 mpeg output is not enabled |
| [19:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | otherwise enable verbose output from mythfrontend |
| [19:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | and see if it mentions anything there |
| [19:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | dev-: I make people work for their supper :) |
| [19:32:00] | dev-: | hehe |
| [19:32:00] | LarruManChu: | GF: I can manage the verbose logging of mythfrontend but how do I verify that I'm not using the 350's mpeg decoder? |
| [19:32:00] | LarruManChu: | using the frontend logs? |
| [19:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, if you do not specifically have the setting turned on, then I guarantee it's not used |
| [19:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | But I believe something appears in the mythfrontend logs as well |
| [19:33:00] | LarruManChu: | and that's in TV playback settings right? |
| [19:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [19:33:00] | LarruManChu: | cool thanks dude |
| [19:40:00] | xris: | GreyFoxx: re pixmaps, the starttime/endtime passed between fe and be apparently changed (or rather, was made more specific)... was sending the wrong info. |
| [19:41:00] | xris: | so old recordings worked fine, but new ones after the big file basename commit (.mpg suffix for recorded files) might not have worked if there was pre/post roll, etc. |
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| [19:46:00] | xris: | fyi: Buy.com has the Hauppauge WinTV-PVR 150 MCE video card on sale for a low $62.99, shipped free. |
| [19:46:00] | xris: | coupons available linked via fatwallet.com, etc. |
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| [19:56:00] | guitar256: | Is there a setting somewhere to turn on DVD transcoding? I just ripped a DVD but i'm left with a *.vob file, untranscoded. Nowhere in the process did I see an option to transcode. |
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| [20:02:00] | simcop2387: | anyone know anything about mythtv and irxevent? all of the sudden they don't seem to want to work together anymore |
| [20:06:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: what softclient do you use? |
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| [20:11:00] | redline--: | is there anyway to get smooth fast fwd and rewind in myth ? |
| [20:11:00] | Igramul: | hi – i am quite new to MythTV and I would like to know if there is a hotkey to put mythfrontend in a window while watching TV. |
| [20:12:00] | redline--: | Igramul i dont think there is |
| [20:12:00] | dev-: | --geometry |
| [20:13:00] | dev-: | check mythfrontend --help |
| [20:14:00] | Igramul: | dev-: hmm... but I would like to switch from full screen to window while watching... |
| [20:15:00] | timekllr: | Igramul: can't be done |
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| [20:16:00] | Igramul: | timekllr: Well, thank You anyway. |
| [20:17:00] | Igramul: | MythTV is great, by the way. I've never seen a GUI like that before. |
| [20:22:00] | simcop2387: | redline--: what do you mean, "smooth"? |
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| [20:33:00] | redline--: | when i use ffd or rew it jumps frames |
| [20:33:00] | redline--: | i was hoping to get a smooth frame by frame ffd |
| [20:34:00] | simcop2387: | as far as i know thats not possible with mythtv/any movie player/dvd player/tivo/etc. |
| [20:35:00] | simcop2387: | if you want to rewind a frame at a time, you pause it and hit fast forward/rewind if thats what your after |
| [20:36:00] | redline--: | say i wanted to watch a whole football game in ffd but see alot of detail with out it jumping 30 frames is there a way to do that ? |
| [20:36:00] | redline--: | ffd seems to jump 10 seconds a click |
| [20:36:00] | xris: | MajestiK: weren't you saying something about coming to SC'05 in seattle? |
| [20:36:00] | simcop2387: | you can adjust the time stretch so its 2x the speed |
| [20:36:00] | simcop2387: | hit 'm' and look at the menu |
| [20:36:00] | redline--: | ahhh didnt know it was called time stretch |
| [20:37:00] | redline--: | thanks ill check it out |
| [20:38:00] | ** xris curses the f*ckers who are trying to ssh into his box. ** | |
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| [20:38:00] | Beirdo: | I didn't do it |
| [20:39:00] | simcop2387: | sorry that was me |
| [20:41:00] | simcop2387: | any one know anything about irxevent? it doesn't seem to be working for me anymore |
| [20:43:00] | ** xris wises openssh supported tarpitting ** | |
| [20:43:00] | simcop2387: | ah thats the problem |
| [20:43:00] | simcop2387: | tarpitting? |
| [20:43:00] | simcop2387: | i need to make a lircrc file that allows me to type |
| [20:44:00] | laga: | xris: IIRC, you can blacklist someone's ip if he uses the wrong password. dunno how it's called, though |
| [20:45:00] | xris: | laga: btw, have a website for you: http://radnomaden.de/ |
| [20:46:00] | xris: | crazy germans. |
| [20:46:00] | xris: | (Sarah is a friend of mine from college) |
| [20:46:00] | laga: | i know we're crazy ;) |
| [20:46:00] | laga: | xris: have you watched 'schuh des manitu' yet? |
| [20:46:00] | xris: | no |
| [20:47:00] | laga: | oh, sad ;) |
| [20:47:00] | laga: | yuck, they biked china |
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| [20:50:00] | Wizard_Guest: | can anyone explain to me the actual difference between a frontend and a backend, and if one should have it combined, or seperate |
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| [20:52:00] | xris: | laga: they biked from germany to vietnam, with a side tour to egypt |
| [20:52:00] | xris: | Wizard_Guest: the backend records, the frontend plays |
| [20:53:00] | laga: | xris: they're way crazier than the average german. |
| [20:53:00] | xris: | software, not hardware... separate them as you wish (or not), depending on how many frontends you want, etc. |
| [20:53:00] | Wizard_Guest: | plays live TV??or just recorded? |
| [20:53:00] | xris: | Wizard_Guest: live tv *is* recorded. |
| [20:54:00] | Wizard_Guest: | why would you want to have seperate? |
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| [20:54:00] | Wizard_Guest: | what would be the benefit? |
| [20:54:00] | xris: | Wizard_Guest: well, if you had one big beefy loud backend full of hard drives that you wanted to keep in a closet... |
| [20:54:00] | xris: | and tv's scattered throughout your house that you wanted mythtv on. |
| [20:54:00] | Wizard_Guest: | ahh, ok |
| [20:54:00] | laga: | i keep mine in a clost and i still can hear it |
| [20:55:00] | Wizard_Guest: | what would a frontend have to consist of? |
| [20:55:00] | xris: | for the average user, a combined frontend/backend is usually fine. |
| [20:55:00] | xris: | frontend just needs to be fast enough to decode/play the stuff you record... (so about 1Ghz for SD, 2Ghz+ for HD) |
| [20:55:00] | mchou: | laga: I'd like to do that, bike thru of china. |
| [20:56:00] | mchou: | laga: I dont think they are crazy at all. |
| [20:56:00] | Wizard_Guest: | would I need ot have 2 capture cards then?? one for the backend and one for the frontend? |
| [20:56:00] | Wizard_Guest: | *to |
| [20:56:00] | xris: | Wizard_Guest: no. as many capture cards as you want to record streamas of. |
| [20:56:00] | xris: | streams |
| [20:56:00] | xris: | backend doesn't even need a monitor attached if you don't want. |
| [20:57:00] | laga: | mchou: i wasn't totally serious about the 'crazy' part. i think it's a great idea |
| [20:57:00] | Cardoe: | Any Gentoo-ers? |
| [20:57:00] | xris: | just depends on what you want to do. |
| [20:57:00] | xris: | Cardoe: you? |
| [20:57:00] | Cardoe: | xris: other then me |
| [20:57:00] | ** xris points at kormoc ** | |
| [20:57:00] | ** kormoc blinks. ** | |
| [20:57:00] | mchou: | Wizard_Guest: by definition a backend has at least one capture input :) |
| [20:57:00] | Cardoe: | Test my ebuilds... |
| [20:57:00] | Cardoe: | before I unmask them and mark them stable on you all! |
| [20:57:00] | Wizard_Guest: | so I would need a capture card in the frontend, and could have none in the backend?? |
| [20:57:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, what's new with them? |
| [20:57:00] | xris: | Wizard_Guest: no. in that case, you'd have a master backend and a slave backend. |
| [20:57:00] | Wizard_Guest: | ohh, ok |
| [20:57:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: ivtv 0.3.8 |
| [20:57:00] | mchou: | Wizard_Guest: huh??? |
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| [20:58:00] | mchou: | anyone here have a cuecat? |
| [20:58:00] | kormoc: | hrm. |
| [20:58:00] | ** laga has a cluebat ** | |
| [20:58:00] | xris: | I hear that kormoc has a box of them |
| [20:58:00] | Wizard_Guest: | so then one could network the video from the backend to the frontend to watch TV?? |
| [20:58:00] | ** Cardoe wants a cuecat. ** | |
| [20:59:00] | xris: | Wizard_Guest: that's the whole idea |
| [20:59:00] | mchou: | I can get you one for $3+shipping :) |
| [20:59:00] | Cardoe: | mchou: USB or PS2? |
| [20:59:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, send away if ya want me to test. |
| [20:59:00] | mchou: | ps2 |
| [20:59:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: its been in the tree for like a week |
| [20:59:00] | Cardoe: | mchou: where would ya ship from? |
| [20:59:00] | mchou: | USB is about $10 |
| [20:59:00] | mchou: | CA |
| [21:00:00] | ** Cardoe ponders how much the shipping would be ** | |
| [21:00:00] | xris: | mchou: oh, forgot to tell you that we do have some coppermine stuff laying around... trying to get you some pricing info |
| [21:00:00] | Wizard_Guest: | so my frontend box could have nothing except a AGP video card? |
| [21:00:00] | mchou: | xris: heh, nice |
| [21:00:00] | mchou: | Wizard_Guest: yup |
| [21:00:00] | mchou: | Wizard_Guest: not even a HDD |
| [21:00:00] | mchou: | Wizard_Guest: netboot |
| [21:00:00] | Wizard_Guest: | how woudl it boot then? |
| [21:00:00] | Wizard_Guest: | ohh, ok |
| [21:01:00] | Wizard_Guest: | wow |
| [21:01:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, you have it hard masked or something? |
| [21:01:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: yes |
| [21:01:00] | kormoc: | ahh |
| [21:01:00] | mchou: | Cardoe: where you live? |
| [21:01:00] | Cardoe: | Florida |
| [21:01:00] | mchou: | Cardoe: probably $8 fedex gnd |
| [21:01:00] | kormoc: | Cardoe, correct way to unmask it? |
| [21:02:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: echo "=media-tv/ivtv-0.3.8" >> /etc/portage/package.unmask |
| [21:03:00] | kormoc: | hrm, I thought there was some odd way you had to do to unmask hard masked items. something with keywords... |
| [21:03:00] | Cardoe: | that unmasks it if it's in package.mask |
| [21:03:00] | Cardoe: | if it's keyworded |
| [21:03:00] | Cardoe: | it'd be |
| [21:04:00] | Cardoe: | echo "media-tv/ivtv ~arch" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords |
| [21:04:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: you run x86 or ~x86? |
| [21:04:00] | kormoc: | ~x86 |
| [21:04:00] | Cardoe: | then don't worry about keywords |
| [21:04:00] | xris: | Wizard_Guest: the "best" frontend would probably be a diskless epia system |
| [21:06:00] | mchou: | xris: bah, I disagree |
| [21:06:00] | mchou: | epia's are PITA to maintain |
| [21:07:00] | Wizard_Guest: | what woudl you reccomend? |
| [21:07:00] | mchou: | too many funky compile flags |
| [21:07:00] | ** Twiun perks up at the mention of epia's ** | |
| [21:07:00] | xris: | mchou: hence ""... they're the only fanless machines I could come up with off-hand |
| [21:07:00] | Twiun: | mchou: what's the biggest epia gripe? |
| [21:07:00] | mchou: | go for an A64. They are almost fanless :) |
| [21:07:00] | mchou: | Twiun: too many funky compile flags |
| [21:07:00] | laga: | i'd like to have a pentium-m in my frontend. |
| [21:07:00] | xris: | laga: btx |
| [21:08:00] | xris: | :) |
| [21:08:00] | xris: | and yes, those are really quiet. |
| [21:08:00] | Twiun: | mchou: ahhh, gentoo user? |
| [21:08:00] | mchou: | Twiun: nope |
| [21:08:00] | mchou: | Twiun: the standard distros generally do not generate epia binaries |
| [21:09:00] | mchou: | Twiun: get the hint? :) |
| [21:09:00] | laga: | what's special about epia binaries? |
| [21:09:00] | ** Twiun hides ** | |
| [21:09:00] | Twiun: | I didn't intend to start a epia-fest :) |
| [21:09:00] | xris: | mchou: fc should.. that's why everything is still i386 instead of i686 |
| [21:10:00] | xris: | laga: epia chips are missing a tiny subset of i686 code |
| [21:10:00] | mchou: | epia is not even really an i386 |
| [21:10:00] | laga: | xris: oh, ok |
| [21:10:00] | Twiun: | mchou: tbh, mythtv is still in the concept stage for me – no hw yet, still looking at what to get for 2xdvb in the uk |
| [21:10:00] | mchou: | it's some weirdass chimera |
| [21:10:00] | xris: | technically, it's i586... |
| [21:10:00] | Twiun: | mchou: ... with combined fron+backend in one box |
| [21:10:00] | xris: | but in tests, redhat found that i386 with p4 optimizations was faster than i586 |
| [21:11:00] | xris: | Twiun: you and your dvb-receiving friends suck... ;) |
| [21:11:00] | Twiun: | xris: well, receiving it is another question... I might be ideally located but I dunno if the aerial is up to it |
| [21:12:00] | Twiun: | xris: still on analogue |
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| [21:12:00] | xris: | Twiun: well, I was personally thinking dvb-s... but -t or -c would be good, too |
| [21:12:00] | Twiun: | xris: yeah -t is what I'm aiming for |
| [21:13:00] | Twiun: | xris: it's a shame that the pvr500 doesn't do dvb |
| [21:13:00] | xris: | Twiun: that'd defeat the point. dvb is already digital |
| [21:13:00] | Twiun: | xris: yeah, but those hw mpeg2 encoders look sweet |
| [21:13:00] | Twiun: | xris: and 2 tuners on one card |
| [21:13:00] | mchou: | Twiun: huh??? |
| [21:13:00] | xris: | Twiun: but dvb is *already* mpeg2 |
| [21:14:00] | mchou: | exactly |
| [21:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | dude. Your DVB signal is already an mpeg stream. Your card is just handing it to you to write to disk |
| [21:14:00] | laga: | Twiun: you know, DVB is already compressed. |
| [21:14:00] | Twiun: | ok, blond moment there – apologies |
| [21:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | quick everyone jump on him! |
| [21:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [21:14:00] | ** Twiun takes one last blow to the head ** | |
| [21:14:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: hehehe |
| [21:15:00] | mchou: | laga: where's your cluebat? |
| [21:15:00] | Twiun: | Ok, but you concede that 2 tuners on one card would be nice? |
| [21:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | twin: No, since it is possible to record multiple dvb streams at once |
| [21:15:00] | laga: | mchou: had to clean the blood off |
| [21:15:00] | Twiun: | GreyFoxx: ok, that I wasn't aware of |
| [21:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | twin: The card just picks the particular one it wants to feed you |
| [21:15:00] | Twiun: | laga: you put spikes in it? |
| [21:15:00] | Twiun: | laga: what happened to the foam? |
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| [21:16:00] | laga: | Twiun: heh. it's a special clue bat. i stole it from someone who flamed on the usenet |
| [21:16:00] | sandos: | GreyFoxx: oh, is that so? So the channels are multiplexed together in one big "phsyical" channel? |
| [21:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | sandos: something like that. Though before you ask, myth doesn't support that |
| [21:16:00] | xris: | sandos: sometimes |
| [21:17:00] | sandos: | oh |
| [21:17:00] | xris: | mostly, though, it just picks the stream on a certain frequency (channel) and feeds that to you. |
| [21:17:00] | sandos: | Im in Sweden, digital TV is years away for me ;) |
| [21:17:00] | xris: | though some places do seem to be embedding multiple stations into a single transport stream |
| [21:17:00] | xris: | sandos: dvb-s |
| [21:17:00] | Twiun: | in that case, (and excuse me for being stupid here) is the cpu requirement lessened for straight recordings (no viewing) and you only need the decoding from mpeg2 for actual display? |
| [21:17:00] | sandos: | its on the verge of getting popular, but it costs money.. I still only have the basic, free analog cable channels here (5 or so) |
| [21:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | twin: yes |
| [21:17:00] | sandos: | xris: ok |
| [21:17:00] | xris: | Twiun: pretty much |
| [21:18:00] | xris: | sandos: no complaining about living in SE... you with your nice health care and large-breasted women. |
| [21:18:00] | Twiun: | and pip is therefore possible, given enough acceleration at the decoding layer? |
| [21:18:00] | Twiun: | (I'm still thinking epia ehre) |
| [21:18:00] | sandos: | xris: hahaha! |
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| [21:18:00] | xris: | Twiun: and two tuner cards |
| [21:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have no idea about the epia's abilities |
| [21:19:00] | xris: | some of the epias have mpeg2 display acceleration, but don't know how they'd deal with pip |
| [21:20:00] | Twiun: | ok – I don't understand the bit about recording multiple dvb streams at once – GreyFoxx implied (from my reading) that this was possible without multiple tuners? |
| [21:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | twisted_one: You missed the "myth doesn't support that" part of the discussion |
| [21:20:00] | Twiun: | Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| [21:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | and not all drivers support it |
| [21:20:00] | ** Twiun gets the clue ** | |
| [21:20:00] | xris: | lunch. afk |
| [21:21:00] | Twiun: | thanks for the enlightenment – it's a lot to take in from the web pages |
| [21:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | It is |
| [21:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | and it's ever changing :) |
| [21:22:00] | Twiun: | well, hopefully! is there a roadmap post or page? |
| [21:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | not that I'm aware of |
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| [21:27:00] | Juski: | I like it when it's quiet here. it means everybody's mythtv is working :) |
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| [21:29:00] | laga: | ohmygosh it driving me nuts |
| [21:29:00] | Juski: | your mythtv is, or the quietness? |
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| [21:29:00] | laga: | no, just mocking you ;) |
| [21:29:00] | Juski: | lol |
| [21:30:00] | laga: | how is it going? |
| [21:30:00] | Juski: | very good thanks laga... still rescuing stuff off that dying disk |
| [21:30:00] | laga: | ouch |
| [21:31:00] | Juski: | this PC has 2 PSUs running it at the minute.. the dying disk is eating way too much current |
| [21:31:00] | laga: | does it make grinding noises? |
| [21:31:00] | Juski: | but judging by the amount of crap I seem to have collected maybe I'd be better off without it |
| [21:31:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [21:31:00] | Juski: | no laga – just runs hot & it's hungry |
| [21:32:00] | laga: | wish i had a wife like this |
| [21:32:00] | Juski: | roflmao |
| [21:33:00] | Juski: | me too ;) |
| [21:33:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [21:33:00] | Juski: | I think the time has come for me to try transcoding out on the backend... |
| [21:34:00] | Juski: | and er.. pry myself away from the PC to watch some of the 89 hours I've recorded |
| [21:36:00] | Juski: | (but not til this backup is done) |
| [21:37:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [21:37:00] | Juski: | how's the diskless f/e coming along, laga? |
| [21:37:00] | laga: | Juski: i'm currently too busy with RL to mess with it |
| [21:38:00] | Juski: | I've still got a massive HDD clearout to do before the weekend arrives – I've been promised to transfer 5 hours of DV and edit a holiday video |
| [21:38:00] | laga: | ouch |
| [21:39:00] | laga: | i've promised to burn a VHS to video cd for a friend of mine, like 6 months ago. and now i've found out that the only VCR in the house is broken |
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| [21:41:00] | Juski: | oh dear :( |
| [21:42:00] | laga: | yep ;) |
| [21:42:00] | sandos: | Ive never owned a VHS |
| [21:42:00] | sandos: | :) |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | spring chicken |
| [21:43:00] | ** Juski sneaks off to have a look to see if transcoding will work for him... ** | |
| [21:44:00] | laga: | sandos: neither have i, i stole my parent's |
| [21:45:00] | Krazylegz: | How old are you two?! |
| [21:45:00] | Krazylegz: | I had friends who had Betamax. |
| [21:45:00] | laga: | 18. |
| [21:45:00] | laga: | betamax was never big in europe, IIRC |
| [21:45:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh. |
| [21:46:00] | Juski: | was it ever big anywhere? |
| [21:46:00] | Krazylegz: | Laga is an evil teenage hacker person! :-P |
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| [21:46:00] | Juski: | h@xx0rs r00l! |
| [21:46:00] | xris: | Juski: it's still used by news media |
| [21:47:00] | xris: | though lately getting replaced by digital stuff (thankfully) |
| [21:47:00] | laga: | Krazylegz: why would you think that? |
| [21:47:00] | Juski: | xris... betacam still in use? ahh probably digitalbeta... |
| [21:47:00] | laga: | xris: well, they use a better version of the old system (what the media uses) |
| [21:48:00] | Krazylegz: | laga: You seem to be pretty smart with MythTV, and you're a teenager. |
| [21:48:00] | xris: | Juski: no clue. just know what video people have told me over the years. beta is/was better quality/durability than vhs, so they used it. |
| [21:48:00] | Juski: | yeh old betacam was betamax running at 6 times the original speed |
| [21:49:00] | laga: | Krazylegz: i could be better. |
| [21:49:00] | Juski: | I wonder if anyone cares about which next-gen DVD format will win... (I don't) |
| [21:49:00] | laga: | Juski: i know that it'll suck. |
| [21:49:00] | Krazylegz: | laga: Quiet, Mr. Black Hat!! :-) |
| [21:50:00] | Juski: | you hear about that college professor who's invented a biometric scanning system to prevent DVD piracy? lunacy! scan your fingerprint before playing each disc... (and at the point of sale...). where do people get these loony ideas? |
| [21:51:00] | Krazylegz: | We will get more DRM in this new DVD format, right? |
| [21:51:00] | Juski: | yeh and now there's the means to squash anyone who cracks it |
| [21:51:00] | laga: | Krazylegz: my GF has just told me to tell you to 'fsck off'. talk about good impressions ;) |
| [21:51:00] | Juski: | :(:( |
| [21:51:00] | Krazylegz: | I guess it's easier to implement biometric scanning than to change your business model. |
| [21:52:00] | Krazylegz: | laga: Haha. Tell her I said, 'hi'. :-) |
| [21:52:00] | Juski: | I find it funny how the price of CDs in the UK has gone down, and CD sales have increased. Weird that |
| [21:52:00] | laga: | Krazylegz: according to her, you're just jealous. *rotfl* |
| [21:52:00] | Juski: | if they try the same with dvds... |
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| [21:53:00] | Juski: | I'm more concerned about DRM & HDTV |
| [21:53:00] | Juski: | oops.. almost forgot that HDCP has been cracked already :) |
| [21:54:00] | laga: | really? that's great news. |
| [21:54:00] | Juski: | you can buy a 'cable extender' which (obviously as a consequence of 'improving the signal') sidesteps the HDCP stuff |
| [21:55:00] | Juski: | that said though. grabbing a DVI signal would be no mean feat |
| [21:55:00] | laga: | nice. because my dad would like to watch HDTV golf and this is not possible with our current HDTV set. |
| [21:55:00] | Krazylegz: | laga: If she's your age, then I'm jealous of YOU. See what she has to say about that! |
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| [21:56:00] | laga: | because the stupid set top box will only output HDCP encrypted garbage. |
| [21:56:00] | Juski: | the British public are gonna be in for a shock when they find their Sky HD boxes won't work with their 'HD ready' screens lol |
| [21:56:00] | laga: | Krazylegz: muhahaha. ok, enough of that ;) |
| [21:56:00] | Krazylegz: | Indeed. |
| [21:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | until the maker of the cables is sued into oblivion unless they replace them with ones that keep the encryption in place |
| [21:57:00] | xris: | anyone here from BE? |
| [21:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | BE ? |
| [21:57:00] | Juski: | belgium? |
| [21:57:00] | xris: | belgium |
| [21:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | oh |
| [21:57:00] | xris: | or nearby, I guess. |
| [21:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | duh |
| [21:57:00] | xris: | trying to track down a new cd by Urban Trad... not available in the US. |
| [21:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | haven/'t been there in months |
| [21:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | but a coworker of mine is there now |
| [21:58:00] | xris: | must be nice to travel. |
| [21:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | he's been there for a month and comes back in a couple weeks |
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| [21:59:00] | Juski: | laga... you know that coding I did at the weekend? |
| [22:00:00] | xris: | just stupid that you can't get music around the world when you can get everything else. |
| [22:00:00] | laga: | Juski: yeah. |
| [22:00:00] | Juski: | I just realised today there was no point... the channels I can't get the xmltv guide for are being discontinued |
| [22:00:00] | Juski: | d'oh! |
| [22:00:00] | laga: | oh that sucks ;) |
| [22:00:00] | Juski: | well it was a good exercise |
| [22:00:00] | laga: | well, it's still a good piece of functionality. are ya going to submit it? |
| [22:01:00] | Juski: | yeh I'm gonna find out how to make it into a patch |
| [22:01:00] | laga: | svn diff |
| [22:01:00] | Juski: | then see if it'll apply against the current svn |
| [22:01:00] | laga: | oh, you dont use SVN |
| [22:01:00] | xris: | diff -bu |
| [22:01:00] | Juski: | ahhh |
| [22:02:00] | Juski: | it might even apply against svn – not sure though... I'll grab svn & compare it to the original (un-juski'd) patch |
| [22:03:00] | xris: | hmm, $17 euros + international shipping. |
| [22:05:00] | xris: | hmm, 22.34 euros is over $27 |
| [22:05:00] | xris: | ouch |
| [22:06:00] | laga: | umm, get a better currency then ;) |
| [22:07:00] | xris: | that's still a lot to pay for a cd |
| [22:07:00] | xris: | and it's better than when I lived in peru. |
| [22:07:00] | laga: | what CD? |
| [22:07:00] | xris: | Urban Trad: Elem |
| [22:07:00] | laga: | oh, dont know that one |
| [22:07:00] | xris: | belgian group. really cool music. |
| [22:07:00] | laga: | oh, ok. what kind of music? does it involve guitars? ;) |
| [22:07:00] | xris: | but don't take my word for it. apparently I have really strange taste in music. |
| [22:07:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [22:08:00] | xris: | urbantrad.com |
| [22:08:00] | Beirdo: | get a guitar, Dieter! |
| [22:08:00] | laga: | grrr ;) |
| [22:08:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm, wonder where the Dieter I know is off to now |
| [22:08:00] | Juski: | well, here goes nothing... 1st attempt at transcoding in almost a year of using mythtv... |
| [22:09:00] | xris: | Juski: with nuvexport? or within mythtv? |
| [22:09:00] | Juski: | within mythtv |
| [22:10:00] | Juski: | how does it go with DVB recordings? can it cope okay? |
| [22:11:00] | xris: | just converts it to nupplevideo files. |
| [22:11:00] | xris: | imho better to use nuvexport.. but way slower |
| [22:11:00] | Juski: | ahh well I'll give it a go... |
| [22:11:00] | Juski: | just seen in my backend status page.. "Last mythfilldatabase run started on 2005-09–20 06:00 and ended on 2005-09–20 06:00. FAILED: xmltv returned error code 65280" |
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| [22:12:00] | Juski: | code 65280? |
| [22:17:00] | Juski: | musta just been one of those things... works ok from a shell |
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| [22:24:00] | LarruManChu: | GreyFoxx: I disabled the 350 output to try to get xv working but now when I try to watch TV I get a green and purple image stuck in the framebuffer. any suggestions? this also happens when I play videos with mplayer and when I try to watch recordings. |
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| [22:29:00] | foobum: | any UK people? having some trouble with tv_grab_uk_rt... |
| [22:29:00] | hexbox: | hi, im having a little bit of a problen.. the text in mythtv is large and i can't read some of the things that myth is trying to tell me |
| [22:29:00] | hexbox: | :s |
| [22:31:00] | Juski: | foobum... what's yer problem? |
| [22:31:00] | foobum: | i'm trying to --configure and it can't find the channel string |
| [22:31:00] | Juski: | for which channel? |
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| [22:31:00] | foobum: | well.. im trying to do the initial configuration |
| [22:32:00] | foobum: | i.e. get a list of channels |
| [22:32:00] | foobum: | if i put in the url it requests manually i get an error message |
| [22:32:00] | Juski: | have a look in /usr/share/xmltv/tv_grab_uk_rt/channel_ids (the text file) |
| [22:32:00] | foobum: | yep? |
| [22:33:00] | Juski: | basically, foobum you enter the channel name.. e.g. for bbc1 you put in 'bbc1' |
| [22:33:00] | foobum: | sorry.. enter it where? |
| [22:33:00] | Juski: | if there's more than one match (which there will be) it then comes back at you with a list |
| [22:34:00] | Juski: | when you go into tv_grab_uk_rt --configure |
| [22:34:00] | foobum: | it doesn't get that far unfortunately |
| [22:34:00] | foobum: | it fails when trying to grab the list of channels |
| [22:34:00] | Juski: | which is what mythtv-setup launches |
| [22:34:00] | Juski: | ahhh |
| [22:34:00] | Juski: | I've never known it ask for a URL |
| [22:34:00] | foobum: | it doesn't.. it's hardcoded |
| [22:34:00] | Juski: | can the mythtv box you've got resolve domain names? |
| [22:35:00] | foobum: | but i there's something changed |
| [22:35:00] | foobum: | yeah.. it resolves and pulls a bunch of html.. but it's an error page |
| [22:35:00] | Juski: | hmmm |
| [22:36:00] | Juski: | I grabbed some listings not 15 mins ago |
| [22:36:00] | foobum: | hmm |
| [22:36:00] | Juski: | what's the error message? |
| [22:36:00] | foobum: | 1 sec |
| [22:38:00] | foobum: | "cannot find channel string in HTML <html ---lots of HTML cut--- > at /usr/bin/tv_grab_uk_rt line 1536 |
| [22:38:00] | Juski: | I normally get those kind of errors |
| [22:39:00] | Juski: | well it usually complains about not being able to find some channels |
| [22:39:00] | foobum: | hmm.. it appears to be a die() |
| [22:39:00] | hexbox: | hi, im having a little bit of a problen.. the text in mythtv is large and i can't read some of the things that myth is trying to tell me |
| [22:39:00] | hexbox: | i.e. descriptions of settings in the setup |
| [22:39:00] | foobum: | yeah.. it is..: $data =~ /<form +name=\"all_channels\"[^>]*?>(.*?)<\/form>/i |
| [22:39:00] | foobum: | or die "cannot find channel string in HTML $data"; |
| [22:40:00] | Juski: | what have you entered as channel names, foobum? |
| [22:40:00] | Juski: | and.. which version of xmltv are you using? |
| [22:40:00] | foobum: | i haven't had a chance yet |
| [22:40:00] | foobum: | and ... |
| [22:40:00] | foobum: | 0.5.34 |
| [22:40:00] | laga: | 0.5.40 is the latest. |
| [22:41:00] | Juski: | I'm on 0.5.37-r1 – which works ok |
| [22:41:00] | Juski: | try upgrading xmltv first then |
| [22:41:00] | foobum: | echo "media-tv/xmltv ~amd64" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords |
| [22:41:00] | foobum: | it's going to give me .39 |
| [22:41:00] | foobum: | i'll give it a try |
| [22:41:00] | laga: | sounds good. |
| [22:42:00] | Juski: | hey that transcode I did seemed to work.. now to try it on the epia frontend... |
| [22:42:00] | laga: | to see if it did worked? |
| [22:42:00] | laga: | scnr ;) |
| [22:43:00] | foobum: | woot.. that looks better :) |
| [22:43:00] | foobum: | cheers juski |
| [22:43:00] | ** laga slaps himself over the head repeatedly ** | |
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| [22:49:00] | LarruManChu: | I'm trying to switch from using pvr-350 mpeg decoder to xv through the pvr-350 tv-out. When I turned of pvr-350 mpeg decoder in mythtv settings I got no output, not even audio. Do I need to change my X config? |
| [22:50:00] | Beirdo: | ummm |
| [22:51:00] | Beirdo: | to use the PVR-350 tv-out, you are using the PVR-350 decoder |
| [22:51:00] | Beirdo: | that's my understanding |
| [22:51:00] | Beirdo: | no chance of Xv on it that I've ever heard of |
| [22:51:00] | hexbox: | can someone help me? when i go to watch tv, i can see a tiny bit of the mythmenu on the left and top side of the screen (its blue) |
| [22:52:00] | hexbox: | using MythCenter as my theme btw |
| [22:52:00] | laga: | Beirdo: there is support for Xv in the development ivtv. |
| [22:52:00] | LarruManChu: | I keep hearing everyone on ivtvdev using xv through the pvr-350 with the x-drivers (which I have). |
| [22:52:00] | Beirdo: | well good luck |
| [22:52:00] | laga: | they should have implemented opengl instead |
| [22:52:00] | ** laga hides ** | |
| [22:52:00] | Beirdo: | so ask on ivtvdev |
| [22:52:00] | Beirdo: | have fun |
| [22:52:00] | simcop2387: | laga: its open source, you do it |
| [22:53:00] | Criggie: | goddamn – my PVR-150 is "indefinitely delayed" Seems that hauppauge is producing many more MCE cards than non-MCE |
| [22:53:00] | hexbox: | criggie: whats the diff. between mce and non mce cards |
| [22:53:00] | hexbox: | because i have a 150 |
| [22:53:00] | laga: | simcop2387: hey, quit typing your password into IRC and we'll talk again ;) |
| [22:53:00] | Criggie: | hexbox: theres about four MCE PVR-150 cards and one non-MCE |
| [22:54:00] | simcop2387: | i haven't typed my password into IRC |
| [22:54:00] | Criggie: | some have FM, some don' |
| [22:54:00] | hexbox: | mine doesn't have FM |
| [22:54:00] | hexbox: | is that bad? |
| [22:54:00] | Criggie: | some have FM, some don't have FM. The non-MCE one works with other versions of windows, and the MCE ones REQUIRE windows MCE |
| [22:54:00] | laga: | simcop2387: oh, that was somebody else then. ;) |
| [22:54:00] | simcop2387: | mine has fm but i can't get it working |
| [22:54:00] | laga: | hexbox: FM as in 'radio' |
| [22:54:00] | hexbox: | yes |
| [22:54:00] | hexbox: | do i really need radio anyways? |
| [22:54:00] | hexbox: | lol |
| [22:54:00] | Criggie: | hexbox: FM is fun but kinda useless. |
| [22:54:00] | hexbox: | i have a stereo right next to the tv |
| [22:54:00] | hexbox: | :p |
| [22:54:00] | Criggie: | I wonder – is there an XMLTV feed for fm radio ? |
| [22:54:00] | simcop2387: | too many commercials on FM |
| [22:54:00] | mchou: | nah, I think radio has it's uses..... |
| [22:54:00] | hexbox: | that as well |
| [22:55:00] | ** laga doesn't have any good radio stations so he could care less ** | |
| [22:55:00] | laga: | simcop2387: umm, mythcommflag? ;) |
| [22:55:00] | Criggie: | simcop2387: yeah – and commercial detection doesn't get the radio ads at all. |
| [22:55:00] | hexbox: | criggie, you use 150 rigt? |
| [22:55:00] | mchou: | simcop2387: then you ought to listen to NPR instead :) |
| [22:55:00] | Criggie: | hexbox: still waiting on it to arrive :-( |
| [22:55:00] | hexbox: | can someone help me with my issue? i can see a little bit of the menu background on the left and top side of the screeen when I watch TV |
| [22:55:00] | mchou: | but myth and radio together, I agree that doesnt make much sense...... |
| [22:56:00] | hexbox: | amd i think the bottom is slightly cut off, cause the window around the program info (when i go to flip channels) is cut off at the bottom |
| [22:56:00] | hexbox: | :s |
| [22:56:00] | hexbox: | im using pvr-150 btw |
| [22:57:00] | mchou: | weather suddenly turned omnious outside. Thunder and lightning.... |
| [22:57:00] | laga: | mchou: mythweather rocks, huh? |
| [22:58:00] | mchou: | (I dont remember the last time it rained here, heh) |
| [22:58:00] | mchou: | too much california sun. |
| [22:58:00] | mchou: | NOLA get flooded while Cali dies of thirst :) |
| [22:59:00] | laga: | the last time it rained here, many houses got flooded. and i was outside wearing nothing but short s and a t-shirt. so much fun ;) |
| [22:59:00] | simcop2387: | hexbox: sounds like your window manager might be doing something funny, or there is a mistake in your configuration regarding screen size |
| [22:59:00] | hexbox: | well when i play a DVD (in mythtv), its fine |
| [22:59:00] | simcop2387: | laga: it hasn't rained here in 2 months |
| [22:59:00] | hexbox: | its only when i watch TV |
| [23:00:00] | simcop2387: | hexbox: dvd's get played by xine/mplayer |
| [23:00:00] | hexbox: | but the display on my tv is fine though |
| [23:00:00] | laga: | simcop2387: nice :/ |
| [23:00:00] | hexbox: | im going through s-video on my vid card to the tv |
| [23:00:00] | simcop2387: | dunno what it is |
| [23:01:00] | hexbox: | well i appreciate your help anyways |
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| [23:23:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Hi guys, anyone know how to disable the signal monitoring on a particular card? |
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| [23:35:00] | twolf77: | hi all, i was looking to find out if there are any set top boxs for sell that run on mythtv? |
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| [23:35:00] | Krazylegz: | Huh? |
| [23:36:00] | Krazylegz: | You mean like a pre-setup MythTV box? |
| [23:36:00] | hfghfh: | anyone using fedora 4 x86_64 and has got mythfrontend working |
| [23:36:00] | twolf77: | yeah, one that is for sell from a retiler, likr a Tivo ot direct tv |
| [23:36:00] | LarruManChu: | no |
| [23:36:00] | LarruManChu: | there are preconfigured boxes but they're not supported |
| [23:37:00] | Krazylegz: | Not yet. xris's company was thinking about it a while ago, and some company may come out with one in a while, but it will be like $2k-$3k. |
| [23:37:00] | twolf77: | 2 to 3 K!!!! why some much |
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| [23:38:00] | LarruManChu: | put it this way... I've had mine for over a year and I almost have it set up correctly |
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| [23:38:00] | twolf77: | lol, oh i see |
| [23:38:00] | Krazylegz: | They want to serve the high-end market, and MythTV does a lot more than Tivo. |
| [23:38:00] | Krazylegz: | Hardware costs are probably also prohibitive. |
| [23:38:00] | twolf77: | yeah |
| [23:39:00] | xris: | twolf77: if you saw what they look like, you'd understand. but there's no real way to make money without aiming for the high-end market. |
| [23:39:00] | xris: | and I think that $2–3k is a *low* estimate for those boxes |
| [23:39:00] | Krazylegz: | Hey, it's xris! :-) |
| [23:39:00] | LarruManChu: | basically it'd be like a custom install every time |
| [23:39:00] | hfghfh: | is there no 64bit users in here at all |
| [23:39:00] | twolf77: | oh ok cool thanks very much |
| [23:40:00] | Krazylegz: | I use my Indy sometimes, it's 64-bit. Doesn't run MythTV, though. |
| [23:40:00] | xris: | I tried to come up with a system for my company to build, but we couldn't really do anything for much less than $600, and at that point it would be hard to be able to keep consistent parts as time goes on |
| [23:40:00] | xris: | hfghfh: from rpm? it should work fine. |
| [23:40:00] | twolf77: | yeah |
| [23:40:00] | twolf77: | i see, thanks you Xris |
| [23:41:00] | twolf77: | oh and, anyone know if Myth tv is going to supprt IPTV like system? |
| [23:42:00] | ** jnc attacks twolf77 for using stupid blogger lingo ** | |
| [23:42:00] | twolf77: | lol, sorry T-T |
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| [23:42:00] | jnc: | say IPTV one more time and i'll kill -9 your process |
| [23:43:00] | twolf77: | hehe, why do you hate that word so much? |
| [23:43:00] | Krazylegz: | jnc: What is *bad word*? |
| [23:43:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah. Got it. I <3 Google. |
| [23:43:00] | jnc: | 'IPTV' is nonsense made up by journalists which the consumerist market will jump on, "invent" and yield crap that everyone binds themselves to |
| [23:44:00] | hfghfh: | ok xris, let me refrase it is there any 64bit mythtv users in here :-) |
| [23:44:00] | hfghfh: | i meant Krazylegz |
| [23:44:00] | xris: | hfghfh: there are plenty. but you didn't answer my question.. are you using rpm's, or are you compiling from source? |
| [23:44:00] | jnc: | meanwhile the established standards yet to mature will be trampled on by consumerists |
| [23:44:00] | jnc: | :) |
| [23:44:00] | hfghfh: | im using rpms from atrpms |
| [23:45:00] | xris: | hmm. axel was supposed to have fixed all of the issues with fedora's weird way of dealing with coexisting 32- and 64-bit libraries |
| [23:45:00] | Juski: | Kingston Communications tried **TV in Hull, UK... it hasn't done very well :) |
| [23:45:00] | hfghfh: | everything except mythfrontend works. |
| [23:46:00] | twolf77: | so whats work sould i use for contant made to be destribted over the internet? |
| [23:46:00] | hfghfh: | when i run mythfrontend i just get a segfault after it has printed Inserting MythDVD database Information |
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| [23:46:00] | xris: | hfghfh: -v all |
| [23:47:00] | jnc: | twolf77: who knows? it's not ready yet. |
| [23:47:00] | jnc: | twolf77: with the Freematrix Multiplex project, (we)'re working to bring 24/7 free-as-in-beer/freedom television distributed over internet protocols |
| [23:48:00] | jnc: | twolf77: if you're interested in helping to develop such a thing i can get you the references of FMM project lead Kye Lewis, and jump in to get Multiplex going |
| [23:48:00] | jnc: | the current notion is to use OggTheora video over HTTP |
| [23:48:00] | jnc: | it's terribly inefficient, though it does work |
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| [23:49:00] | jnc: | orange ice cream and corona beer with lime tastes awesome. |
| [23:49:00] | hfghfh: | -v all does give more information. But the first time run it it said 2005-09–20 23:05:21.077 New DB connection, total: 1 |
| [23:49:00] | hfghfh: | Total desktop width=1024, height=768, numscreens=1 |
| [23:49:00] | hfghfh: | 2005-09–20 23:05:21.154 Using screen 0, 1024x768 at 0,0 |
| [23:49:00] | hfghfh: | 2005-09–20 23:05:21.192 mythfrontend version: 0.18.1.20050523–1 www.mythtv.org |
| [23:49:00] | hfghfh: | 2005-09–20 23:05:21.193 Enabled verbose msgs : important general |
| [23:49:00] | hfghfh: | Conflict in /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/styles/highcolor.so: |
| [23:49:00] | hfghfh: | Plugin uses incompatible Qt library! |
| [23:49:00] | hfghfh: | expected build key "x86_64 Linux g++-4.* full-config", got "i686 Linux g++-4.* full-config". |
| [23:49:00] | hfghfh: | Conflict in /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/styles/highcontrast.so: |
| [23:49:00] | hfghfh: | Plugin uses incompatible Qt library! |
| [23:49:00] | hfghfh: | expected build key "x86_64 Linux g++-4.* full-config", got "i686 Linux g++-4.* full-config". |
| [23:50:00] | hfghfh: | i meant -v all does NOT give more information |
| [23:51:00] | xris: | hfghfh: pastebin next eimt |
| [23:51:00] | xris: | time |
| [23:52:00] | xris: | sounds to me like there's a qt incompatibility |
| [23:52:00] | twolf77: | ok, thanks all, take care |
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| [23:54:00] | hfghfh: | yes but where. is it in the fedora installation which is a fresh install or is it the atrpms mythtv packagages that is corrupt |
| [23:54:00] | hfghfh: | i have even tried to downgrade to the 113 version but that doesnt helt either |
| [23:54:00] | hfghfh: | by the way what is paste bin |
| [23:54:00] | xris: | neither. but there's a REALLY good chance that atrpms is compiled against a non-standard kde. |
| [23:54:00] | xris: | http://pastebin.ca |
| [23:54:00] | Krazylegz: | hfghfh: http://pastebin.com |
| [23:55:00] | smoke_: | mythtv dev is on cvs or subversion server? |
| [23:55:00] | ChanServ sets mode +o xris | |
| [23:55:00] | xris changes topic to '.:. Welcome to the official user-to-user support channel. .:. http://pastebin.ca/ .:.' | |
| [23:55:00] | hfghfh: | ah, I see. I'm learning something new here |
| [23:55:00] | xris sets mode -o xris | |
| [23:56:00] | xris: | smoke_: huh? there is no more mythtv cvs |
| [23:56:00] | hfghfh: | does that mean none is using the atrpms x86_64 compile. since then i should not be the only one that has hade these problems |
| [23:56:00] | smoke_: | xris, k |
| [23:57:00] | xris: | but if you're just talking servers, cvs. and svn. point to the same IP |
| [23:58:00] | xris: | hfghfh: or they've followed the instructions and used atrpms for EVERYTHING, not just mythtv |
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| [23:58:00] | xris: | which is unfortunately what you have to do because axel replaces so many base packages (makes upgrades a nightmare) |
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| [23:59:00] | guitar256: | is mythdvd capable of transcoding from vob -> avi/mpeg? |
| [23:59:00] | hfghfh: | xris, i cant see how i could do that since atrpms does not have all the needed packages |
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