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| [00:00:00] | GdCondor: | hi |
| [00:01:00] | GdCondor: | i'm just wondering if mythtv is an appropriate solution to broadcast video to a traditional tv network.... maybe using the s-video output from a graphic card ? |
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| [00:03:00] | gnuyen: | is autoexpire |
| [00:03:00] | gnuyen: | that it will delete itself |
| [00:03:00] | gnuyen: | if it gets full? |
| [00:03:00] | apoplex_: | hi |
| [00:03:00] | gnuyen: | and not in use? |
| [00:03:00] | apoplex_: | i always get this error "mythbackendSession management error: Could not open network socket" when i try t ostart mythtvbackend |
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| [00:07:00] | seme: | apoplex_: I get the same error but it doesn't seem like that causes any problem |
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| [00:16:00] | seme: | ok so mythmusic won't work... even when I'm playing a cd... it says No useable audio output driver found. |
| [00:16:00] | seme: | any ideas? |
| [00:16:00] | seme: | is it just using mplayer? |
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| [00:19:00] | seme: | I just checked the prereqs and they are all installed |
| [00:22:00] | DD: | is there a better way of getting channels into myth with dvb-s card, as doing the channel-scan and resorting all the stuff with a webmin sql frontend? |
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| [00:34:00] | djperegrine: | can someone walk me through transcoding ? |
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| [00:35:00] | seme: | nice switching to ALSA:default for my sound device made everything all peachy\ |
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| [00:41:00] | sphing: | djperegrine: i want to transcode also so in a few mins we can do it together |
| [00:41:00] | djperegrine: | cool |
| [00:42:00] | djperegrine: | brb |
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| [01:05:00] | Ryushin: | Anyone here running a hd-3000 card? |
| [01:05:00] | djperegrine: | back |
| [01:05:00] | djperegrine: | sphing, what card do you have? |
| [01:06:00] | Ryushin: | I'm having audio problems. When it plays a hd signal, the sound is popping and cracking and it causes dropped frames. But sometimes, it just goes to a pure hiss and the framrate is perfect. I'm using xvmc and I have a lot of spare CPU so it's not cpu bound. I've tried both alsa and oss to no avail. |
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| [01:09:00] | sphing: | 250 |
| [01:09:00] | sphing: | how can i delete an entire season of a show |
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| [01:15:00] | mchou: | nuonguy: ay! |
| [01:15:00] | mchou: | goddamn hauppauge!! |
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| [01:17:00] | sphing: | does anyone have an raid ide pci card? |
| [01:18:00] | nuonguy: | mchou: What's worng? |
| [01:18:00] | mchou: | never guaranteed to get the same damn tuner with hauppauge for the same model card...... |
| [01:19:00] | nuonguy: | ah |
| [01:19:00] | Ryushin: | I think the hiss is related to receiving a 1080i signal. I was watching football today that must of have 720p. My native tv's resolution is 720p. Any thoughts? |
| [01:19:00] | nuonguy: | Samething with wireless cards |
| [01:22:00] | sphing: | Ryushin: i dont have hd so i'm no help :( |
| [01:22:00] | djperegrine: | sphing are you looking up transcoding stuff? |
| [01:22:00] | djperegrine: | Its damn confusing |
| [01:22:00] | Ryushin: | I seem to be one of the very few here that does have HD. It's frustrating at times. |
| [01:22:00] | Agrajag-: | Ryushin: not really sure, but i seem to remember getting similar effects on some hd streams here, was related to ac3 audio issues. not sure if it's been fixed |
| [01:22:00] | Ryushin: | Hmm.... |
| [01:23:00] | guitar256: | What's a good suggestion for bitrate for the low/high quality settings?! |
| [01:23:00] | mchou: | sphing: make your own :) |
| [01:23:00] | Agrajag-: | Ryushin: do you get the same thing from mplayer? |
| [01:23:00] | mchou: | sphing: I can make one for ya :) |
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| [01:23:00] | Ryushin: | I haven't tried mplayer. |
| [01:24:00] | Ryushin: | Do I just cat /dev/dvb/frontend0 | mplayer ? |
| [01:24:00] | mchou: | sphing: I can get you one for $15 + shipping |
| [01:24:00] | guitar256: | @mchou |
| [01:24:00] | guitar256: | @mchou |
| [01:24:00] | Agrajag-: | nah you gotta setup your channels for dvb stuff and then mplayer dvb:// |
| [01:25:00] | Ryushin: | I should be able to do the same with xine right? |
| [01:25:00] | mchou: | guitar256: hat? |
| [01:25:00] | mchou: | what* |
| [01:29:00] | guitar256: | mchou: I was messing around with bitrate settings, and was wonderin what everyone else was using for 'low quality' & 'high quality' |
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| [01:29:00] | mchou: | guitar256: sorry , cant help ya on that. I pretty much use default myth settings |
| [01:29:00] | SpaceBass: | evening |
| [01:30:00] | djperegrine: | how do I get subversion installed in debian? |
| [01:30:00] | SpaceBass: | anyone have expirence with DirecTV cards ? IE sources? |
| [01:31:00] | mchou: | sphing: http://www.weethet.nl/english/hardware_promiseultra100.php |
| [01:32:00] | mchou: | sphing: I have a ready supply of those cards (unmodded) |
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| [01:34:00] | sphing: | has anyone run benchmarks on hardware setups for myth? |
| [01:34:00] | mchou: | sphing: like what? |
| [01:35:00] | sphing: | like raid1 on the backend vs raid1 on a fileserver |
| [01:35:00] | mchou: | sphing: not me, sorry |
| [01:36:00] | sphing: | mchou: anyway back to your pci raid... linux drivers? |
| [01:36:00] | mchou: | sphing: what you talking about? the modded HW? |
| [01:37:00] | sphing: | yea |
| [01:37:00] | mchou: | the modded HW becomes a FastTrack TX2 controller (from Ultra). There are linux drivers for fasttrak in the kernel |
| [01:38:00] | sphing: | yea i'm reading the page... |
| [01:38:00] | mchou: | sphing: but seriously, if you doing raid 1 you not need crapping SW (fake HW) raid from anyone |
| [01:39:00] | guitar256: | Does anybody havea preferred method of flagging commercials.....i.e. is there one that works better than others??? |
| [01:39:00] | mchou: | sphing: just use linux SW raid. you'd be much better off. |
| [01:39:00] | mchou: | crappy* |
| [01:40:00] | sphing: | mchou: wouldn't it be slower? |
| [01:40:00] | mchou: | sphing: lol, nope |
| [01:40:00] | ** SpaceBass is thinking of building a myth box just to automatically download torrents of shows... ** | |
| [01:40:00] | mchou: | promise/mobo raid is SW raid |
| [01:40:00] | ** sphing is very interested ** | |
| [01:40:00] | SpaceBass: | but I'd like to include a way to capture directv via a pic card... wondering if it can be done |
| [01:41:00] | mchou: | sphing: ie fake raid |
| [01:41:00] | sphing: | i want to speed up my channel changing |
| [01:41:00] | sphing: | i think a large part of that is hd writing |
| [01:41:00] | mchou: | sphing: lol, I dont think raid helps w/that |
| [01:42:00] | mchou: | no, that's more or less due to myth prebuffering |
| [01:42:00] | mchou: | or ivtv prebuffer, whatever. |
| [01:42:00] | mchou: | raid aint gonna help that crap. |
| [01:42:00] | djperegrine: | spacebass, check out torrentocracy |
| [01:42:00] | djperegrine: | I think thats whats its called |
| [01:43:00] | djperegrine: | it downloads torrents from RSS feeds |
| [01:43:00] | sphing: | ... mchou it will certainly help with the HD writing |
| [01:43:00] | djperegrine: | and is a mythtv plugin |
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| [01:44:00] | mchou: | SpaceBass: this channel is logged. Illegal file sharing talk is frowned upon by 99.7% of the myth community. |
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| [01:44:00] | SpaceBass: | mchou: ok... cool with that |
| [01:44:00] | SpaceBass: | really more interested in the DirecTV capture card part |
| [01:44:00] | SpaceBass: | can figure the torrent stuff out pretty easily |
| [01:45:00] | mchou: | SpaceBass: what DirectTV capture part? |
| [01:45:00] | funkyelf: | has anyone here ever set up a Tira using lirc to control their cable box? |
| [01:45:00] | SpaceBass: | yeah... I have seen blogs of people talking about a DirectTV reciever card but cannot find anything on them |
| [01:45:00] | mchou: | hmm, what's a tira? |
| [01:46:00] | funkyelf: | mchou, lemmie find a link |
| [01:46:00] | mchou: | SpaceBass: hah, look up free to air |
| [01:46:00] | mchou: | FTA |
| [01:46:00] | mchou: | SpaceBass: and directtv crackers aren't welcomed either |
| [01:46:00] | SpaceBass: | dude |
| [01:46:00] | funkyelf: | http://www.home-electro.com/tira2.php |
| [01:46:00] | SpaceBass: | not trying to do anything illegal |
| [01:46:00] | SpaceBass: | seriously |
| [01:47:00] | funkyelf: | yeah...OJ got busted |
| [01:47:00] | mchou: | funkyelf: hmm, interesting |
| [01:47:00] | mchou: | funkyelf: haha |
| [01:47:00] | mchou: | funkyelf: I thought OJ is still looking for the "real" killer :) |
| [01:47:00] | funkyelf: | I only have one serial port and I wanted a transmitter and reciever, so I saw this was a USB and did both |
| [01:48:00] | mchou: | funkyelf: hmm, how much is it? |
| [01:48:00] | funkyelf: | mchou...well he's doing that, golfing, and stealing DirecTV in his spare time |
| [01:48:00] | funkyelf: | $50 |
| [01:48:00] | SpaceBass: | arrruggg |
| [01:48:00] | mchou: | ouch!! |
| [01:48:00] | sphing: | how can i delete an entire season of a show? |
| [01:49:00] | mchou: | funkyelf: that's way too expensive |
| [01:49:00] | SpaceBass: | not trying to steal directv... i have 5 legit recievers... just want to add a PCI card as a 6th and PAY for it |
| [01:49:00] | funkyelf: | well how else am I supposed to recieve and transmit with only one serial port? |
| [01:49:00] | mchou: | funkyelf: try firewire? :) |
| [01:49:00] | sphing: | funkyelf: you could rig up a nice circuit |
| [01:49:00] | funkyelf: | like that isn't going to be just as expensive as usb |
| [01:50:00] | mchou: | funkyelf: what's wrong with one serial port anyways? |
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| [01:50:00] | mchou: | funkyelf: firewire card + cable is $10 at frys |
| [01:50:00] | funkyelf: | mchou, whats wrong with it is that I need to do two things with one port and there are only instructions for either reciever or transmitters, not both in one |
| [01:50:00] | mchou: | and $15 or so at walmart |
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| [01:51:00] | funkyelf: | sphing, do you know of a circuit that does both? |
| [01:51:00] | mchou: | funkyelf: what kind of STB you want to talk to again? |
| [01:51:00] | mchou: | funkyelf: UIRT |
| [01:51:00] | funkyelf: | cable box from bright-house networks |
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| [01:51:00] | Uberbot: | I recently upgraded to the latest version of KnoppMyth. Now I get a lot of ivtv ENC IRQ EVERLFOW and nfs errors; |
| [01:51:00] | sphing: | funkyelf: this is just a theory i have... but i'm fairly certain serial is 3 wires... clock, tx and rx |
| [01:51:00] | mchou: | funkyelf: hmm, not familar with that STB |
| [01:52:00] | mchou: | funkyelf: who really makes that box? |
| [01:52:00] | mchou: | SA? |
| [01:52:00] | ** funkyelf goes to his living room ** | |
| [01:52:00] | sphing: | so you make a circuit that splits |
| [01:53:00] | funkyelf: | yeah, scientific atlants |
| [01:53:00] | funkyelf: | *atlanta |
| [01:53:00] | johndo: | if i ma putting together a mythbox, what kind of drive space am I looking at? |
| [01:54:00] | sphing: | johndo: HD? |
| [01:54:00] | mchou: | funkyelf: hmm, that may be positive. What model is it? |
| [01:54:00] | johndo: | sphing, yes |
| [01:54:00] | guitar256: | johndo the more the merrier |
| [01:54:00] | sphing: | johndo: ALOT |
| [01:54:00] | johndo: | I havea raid 5 array, but I want to turn it off |
| [01:54:00] | mchou: | johndo: start with at least 250–300 GB :) |
| [01:54:00] | guitar256: | 1gig ~~ 1 hour |
| [01:54:00] | johndo: | guitar256, thanks |
| [01:55:00] | guitar256: | that might be a low estimate |
| [01:55:00] | funkyelf: | mchou explorer 3250 HD |
| [01:55:00] | mchou: | Uberbot: you need a working ivtv driver. |
| [01:55:00] | mchou: | funkyelf: hmm, that's not so positive |
| [01:55:00] | sphing: | is it possible to delete all recordings of a show? |
| [01:55:00] | guitar256: | funkyelf are you connecting that 3250 via firewire? |
| [01:55:00] | mchou: | funkyelf: you have a pvr 150 by any chance? |
| [01:56:00] | funkyelf: | mchou, nope, a 500 |
| [01:56:00] | mchou: | funkyelf: it comes with a irblaster for $60 :) |
| [01:56:00] | Uberbot: | mchou, do you have a suggestion as to version? |
| [01:56:00] | funkyelf: | guitar256, you mean connecting to my TV? |
| [01:56:00] | johndo: | how well does the pvr-500 work with myth? |
| [01:56:00] | Uberbot: | I'm using KnoppMyth. |
| [01:56:00] | guitar256: | no, i mean firewire to your PC |
| [01:56:00] | sphing: | johndo: the 500 doesnt do hd |
| [01:57:00] | johndo: | other than that? |
| [01:57:00] | mchou: | Uberbot: version: 0.3.4-x |
| [01:57:00] | funkyelf: | guitar256, i haven't built my PVR yet...ordered everything on Thursday night. I can control it using firewire? |
| [01:57:00] | sphing: | i think it works pretty well... i have a 250 and it works very well... i think the 500 is about the same |
| [01:57:00] | guitar256: | according to jarod's how-to you can |
| [01:57:00] | mchou: | funkyelf: lol, that's what I said earlier...... |
| [01:57:00] | guitar256: | and we have Cox Comm in my area and they use that box, so i was considering getting hooked up with it myself |
| [01:58:00] | funkyelf: | guitar256, you have a link to jarod's how-to? |
| [01:58:00] | guitar256: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php |
| [01:59:00] | Uberbot: | Thanx. |
| [01:59:00] | mchou: | I'm really pissed at hauppauge |
| [01:59:00] | guitar256: | write them a letter |
| [02:00:00] | johndo: | mchou, why? |
| [02:00:00] | guitar256: | with strong words |
| [02:00:00] | mchou: | those people change tuners for no good reason every other second |
| [02:00:00] | johndo: | I see |
| [02:00:00] | mchou: | It's like a box of chocolates...... |
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| [02:00:00] | johndo: | What are some hughl;y recommended cards or is there a website for highly recommended cards? |
| [02:00:00] | mchou: | you never know what flavor you gonna get |
| [02:01:00] | mchou: | (that's a line from Forrest Gump) |
| [02:02:00] | ** funkyelf can't find where jarod's how to mentions the 3250 ** | |
| [02:02:00] | sphing: | johndo: i cant really help you since i dont use hd |
| [02:02:00] | guitar256: | it's in there |
| [02:03:00] | guitar256: | it's under a section you have to expand |
| [02:03:00] | guitar256: | i think it's the last one in the "install capture card drivers" section |
| [02:03:00] | johndo: | sphing, what do you use? |
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| [02:04:00] | guitar256: | how do i get linux to tell me what hardware is in my box? i.e. cpu/memory etc |
| [02:05:00] | sphing: | i have a pvr250 on a P3–500 with 2–160gb (not raided or LVM) |
| [02:06:00] | djperegrine: | is there a way for it to transcode into a different format and delete the old , bigger file? |
| [02:06:00] | johndo: | how well does the 250 work on the cpu? |
| [02:06:00] | johndo: | sphing, can you watch livetv? |
| [02:07:00] | sphing: | well i'm recording the emmys right now |
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| [02:07:00] | funkyelf: | hrm...so I can capture HDTV using this firewire port? Even the encrypted ones what that pchdtv card can't? |
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| [02:08:00] | guitar256: | last i heard pchdtv is for OTA hdtv, not cable hdtv, so it can't get encrypted ones anyways |
| [02:08:00] | sphing: | acording to top: Cpu(s): 1.9% us, 4.4% sy, 52.7% ni, 39.7% id, 0.6% wa, 0.6% hi, 0.0% si |
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| [02:09:00] | funkyelf: | from the how-to....If you've got one of the SA 3250 boxes, I believe you'll have to use something like an IRBlaster |
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| [02:09:00] | funkyelf: | so you can't control it using firewird |
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| [02:09:00] | sphing: | johndo: ok just kidding... i'm commflagging |
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| [02:10:00] | guitar256: | funkyelf yes ok? |
| [02:10:00] | johndo: | sphing, what is commflagging? |
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| [02:11:00] | sphing: | johndo: commflagging is commercial flagging... its HIGHLY CPU intensive |
| [02:11:00] | funkyelf: | well the IRBlaster uses the Serial port...if I get an IRBlaster, how am I supposed to Recieve IR Signals??? |
| [02:12:00] | guitar256: | with another remote |
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| [02:12:00] | mchou: | funkyelf: I dont get it. serial port can be full duplex. |
| [02:13:00] | funkyelf: | you can get a serial port splitter? |
| [02:13:00] | ** funkyelf knows nothing about serial ports ** | |
| [02:13:00] | johndo: | sphing, I see |
| [02:16:00] | funkyelf: | mchou, so there are splitters for serial ports? |
| [02:16:00] | guitar256: | @funkyelf |
| [02:16:00] | guitar256: | @funkyelf |
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| [02:17:00] | guitar256: | hotkeys :( |
| [02:18:00] | funkyelf: | ? |
| [02:20:00] | sphing: | funkyelf: there are 3 cables on a serial port |
| [02:20:00] | djperegrine: | can I use myth to play .divx SHOWS ? |
| [02:20:00] | djperegrine: | like transcode to Divx |
| [02:21:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah with mythvideo |
| [02:21:00] | sphing: | one for receiving, one for transmitting, and one for clocking |
| [02:21:00] | djperegrine: | and delete the old .nuv file and have that be the main tvshow |
| [02:21:00] | djperegrine: | without mythvideo |
| [02:21:00] | djperegrine: | Do you get what I mean? automaticly transcode the .nuv files into divx files and have it play those instead of the .nuv files? |
| [02:22:00] | sphing: | so in theory you could have a read device AND a write device connected on the same serial port |
| [02:23:00] | funkyelf: | right...but there are no tutorials out there for that or schematics |
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| [02:23:00] | sphing: | you're going to have to play around with it |
| [02:23:00] | sphing: | or get an IR device that does both |
| [02:23:00] | Agrajag-: | djperegrine: yeah i already said, use mythvideo. and don't use divx, use xvid, it's Free |
| [02:23:00] | djperegrine: | yea whatever |
| [02:24:00] | djperegrine: | but thats lame I don't see all the option I would |
| [02:24:00] | djperegrine: | in mythtv |
| [02:24:00] | djperegrine: | I like that menu |
| [02:24:00] | Agrajag-: | oh well, send patch |
| [02:25:00] | Agrajag-: | send a patch rather |
| [02:25:00] | sphing: | Agrajag-: so you just xvid a season and then play it via mythvideo |
| [02:26:00] | Agrajag-: | no, i dont bother transcoding at all |
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| [02:26:00] | sphing: | how much space you got? |
| [02:26:00] | Agrajag-: | 500gig or so |
| [02:26:00] | Agrajag-: | i tend to delete recordings after i watch them anyway |
| [02:27:00] | Agrajag-: | and unlike the average american, i dont watch anything near 4 hours of tv a day :P |
| [02:29:00] | sphing: | lol... |
| [02:29:00] | sphing: | i definately just whois'ed you to see if you're american |
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| [02:29:00] | Ediehow: | hi |
| [02:29:00] | sphing: | hi |
| [02:29:00] | Ediehow: | i upgraded ivtv to a newer version |
| [02:29:00] | Ediehow: | it works, but when i change channel, it says the channel is changed, but i still see same channel |
| [02:29:00] | johndo: | Agrajag- seems to be australian |
| [02:30:00] | Agrajag-: | ;) |
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| [02:42:00] | djperegrine: | which commercial detection works the best? |
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| [02:43:00] | Agrajag-: | depends on the show/channel/etc – there is no one 'best' for all situations, otherwise the other options wouldn't be there |
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| [02:43:00] | djperegrine: | is there a way to set a certial type for each channel? |
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| [02:43:00] | djperegrine: | or show |
| [02:44:00] | Agrajag-: | no |
| [02:48:00] | Ediehow: | Agrajag-: can you help me? |
| [02:48:00] | Uberbot: | mchou, I don't find ivtv version 0.3.4-x. |
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| [02:48:00] | Uberbot: | The latest is 0.2.0. |
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| [02:49:00] | Ediehow: | you have to look for devel |
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| [02:56:00] | Ediehow: | hi |
| [02:56:00] | Ediehow: | anyone familiar with tuner troubles? |
| [02:59:00] | nuonguy: | What kind of trouble? |
| [02:59:00] | djperegrine: | is it possible to stream .nuv files via 802.11b a wireless network? |
| [02:59:00] | Ediehow: | nuonguy: i tell it to change channels, but it does nothing |
| [03:00:00] | de-v: | depends on your bitrate, but any decent setting, no |
| [03:00:00] | nuonguy: | Anyone know where to get the WinTV 150 .ROM file if you don't have the install CDs? |
| [03:00:00] | barry: | After properly installing nuvexport for mythtv version 18.1 and recording and marking the commercials for a TV show, I tried to cut out the commercials with the mpeg2cut portion of nuvexport (version 178) after specifying which show to cut and where to put the target file, avidemux2 exits with the following error "ERROR: opening A/V streams (0/0). Has anyone else run into this problem, and has anyone found a solution? |
| [03:00:00] | nuonguy: | Ediiehow: You mean you have mythtv installed and working, except it won't change channels? |
| [03:00:00] | Ediehow: | right, this just started happening |
| [03:00:00] | Ediehow: | i have latest ivtv module |
| [03:01:00] | Ediehow: | and tuner module is loaded |
| [03:01:00] | Ediehow: | tuner 19548 0 |
| [03:01:00] | Ediehow: | i2c_core 17616 6 wm8775,cx25840,tuner,tveeprom,i2c_algo_bit,i2c_viapro |
| [03:01:00] | nuonguy: | Did you just update? |
| [03:01:00] | Ediehow: | yes |
| [03:01:00] | Ediehow: | 0.3.6-r |
| [03:01:00] | nuonguy: | What do you have? 250 or 350? |
| [03:01:00] | Ediehow: | pvr150 |
| [03:01:00] | Ediehow: | MCE |
| [03:01:00] | nuonguy: | Why did you update? |
| [03:01:00] | nuonguy: | I have the 150 – I just bought it used for #12 |
| [03:01:00] | nuonguy: | er, $12 |
| [03:01:00] | Ediehow: | awesome |
| [03:01:00] | nuonguy: | I need the .ROM file |
| [03:02:00] | Ediehow: | you shouldn't need rom file |
| [03:02:00] | Ediehow: | you can use it without it |
| [03:02:00] | nuonguy: | Can you get tvtime to work? |
| [03:02:00] | Ediehow: | i had everything working till just a bit ago |
| [03:02:00] | nuonguy: | I thought I wouldn't need it, but when I modprobe ivtv, dmesg complains about it and then aborts with an error |
| [03:02:00] | Ediehow: | oh, that happens for me to, about complaint, but hsouldn't matter |
| [03:02:00] | nuonguy: | Try tvtime |
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| [03:02:00] | nuonguy: | Do you get an abort message from dmesg? |
| [03:03:00] | Ediehow: | i actually uninstalled tvtime recently;) |
| [03:03:00] | nuonguy: | I like tvtime for doing sanity testing... |
| [03:04:00] | Ediehow: | mplayer /dev/video0 |
| [03:04:00] | Ediehow: | breb |
| [03:04:00] | Ediehow: | bbiab |
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| [03:04:00] | nuonguy: | Check out the error message: http://pastebin.com/367647 Do you get this? |
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| [03:05:00] | nuonguy: | ratbags! |
| [03:05:00] | barry: | After properly installing nuvexport for mythtv version 18.1 and recording and marking the commercials for a TV show, I tried to cut out the commercials with the mpeg2cut portion of nuvexport (version 178) after specifying which show to cut and where to put the target file, avidemux2 exits with the following error "ERROR: opening A/V streams (0/0). Has anyone else run into this problem, and has anyone found a solution? |
| [03:05:00] | de-v: | man automated questions are annoying |
| [03:05:00] | de-v: | you didnt get an answer the first 12 times |
| [03:05:00] | de-v: | what makes you think the 13th is the one? heh |
| [03:06:00] | de-v: | yeah i think i found a solution. rm -rf / :P |
| [03:07:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, upgrading from mythtv 0.18.1 to svn has fixed my XvMC and vsync problems |
| [03:07:00] | PatrickDK: | but now the screen is only black :( |
| [03:07:00] | nuonguy: | de-v: which questions are bing automated? |
| [03:08:00] | de-v: | you dont seriously have to ask.. do you? heh |
| [03:08:00] | nuonguy: | Oh |
| [03:08:00] | nuonguy: | I tuned out for a while |
| [03:08:00] | nuonguy: | I just saw the exact same paste from barry |
| [03:08:00] | nuonguy: | I dig |
| [03:08:00] | de-v: | thats what i need to do |
| [03:08:00] | de-v: | been trying to get this thinkpad to suspend for too long tonight, aggrevation++ |
| [03:09:00] | nuonguy: | After solving my problems, though, right? :-) |
| [03:09:00] | nuonguy: | Dude, I haven't ever attempted that on my T30 |
| [03:09:00] | nuonguy: | which distro? |
| [03:09:00] | de-v: | gentoo |
| [03:09:00] | de-v: | tpctl: SMAPI BIOS error 0x91 ("system is invalid") — exiting. |
| [03:09:00] | de-v: | its being retarded :) |
| [03:10:00] | nuonguy: | There was a linuxjournal article on that sleep/suspend stuff a few months ago – did you catch that? |
| [03:10:00] | de-v: | yeah, im not trying to hibernate, i want to only suspend — most of the writeups are for hibernating where you need a seperate fat partition to dump memory too etc etc |
| [03:10:00] | de-v: | i just want to suspend heh!! |
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| [03:11:00] | de-v: | i think its because im useing acpi instead of apm (this is an old thinkpad, 600x) |
| [03:11:00] | nuonguy: | You got further than I got |
| [03:11:00] | de-v: | but i figured id try acpi first since its newer and "mo bettah mo powah" but... blah. :) |
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| [03:12:00] | nuonguy: | Am I going to have to boot windows in order to get that silly .ROM file from the pvr150 installer? |
| [03:12:00] | nuonguy: | Drat it |
| [03:12:00] | nuonguy: | Maybe wine can open the file |
| [03:14:00] | PatrickDK: | nuonguy, ivtv will extract it |
| [03:15:00] | PatrickDK: | or you can just download it from the website |
| [03:15:00] | PatrickDK: | the ivtv wiki |
| [03:15:00] | djperegrine: | nuvexport is taking forever :> |
| [03:15:00] | djperegrine: | less then realtime |
| [03:15:00] | nuonguy: | PatrickDK: what do you mean ivtv will extract it? |
| [03:15:00] | nuonguy: | I don't have that .ROM file cuz I don't have install CDs |
| [03:15:00] | sphing: | nuonguy: you can get them from the website |
| [03:15:00] | PatrickDK: | oh, then you have to download it off the website |
| [03:16:00] | PatrickDK: | that would be easiest |
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| [03:16:00] | PatrickDK: | or download the pvr-150 drivers |
| [03:16:00] | nuonguy: | Download the installer? |
| [03:16:00] | PatrickDK: | that includes that file |
| [03:16:00] | jhoke: | evenin' all |
| [03:16:00] | PatrickDK: | that, or the firmware |
| [03:16:00] | nuonguy: | I'm looking and I can't find just that firmware file .... |
| [03:16:00] | PatrickDK: | google it |
| [03:17:00] | PatrickDK: | it's on the ivtv wiki |
| [03:17:00] | nuonguy: | It can't be the .inf file... |
| [03:17:00] | jhoke: | Has anyone ever has a PVR250 just go to hell for no apparent reason? I shut down my box to add a new disk and when I rebooted all I get now is blacksnow on every channel |
| [03:18:00] | jhoke: | Frustrating as hell... cant seem to figure out what's up with it |
| [03:19:00] | nuonguy: | jhoke: Two things come to mind: 1) Your power supply can't handle it or 2) You bumped something loose |
| [03:19:00] | nuonguy: | jhoke: I've done it, but then I can be pretty clumsy |
| [03:19:00] | sphing: | jhoke: try disconnecting the new drive and going again |
| [03:19:00] | nuonguy: | Er, I've knocked something loose |
| [03:20:00] | jhoke: | Nuon: yep... checked it , reseated it (and the drive was a replacement, so same power consumption) |
| [03:21:00] | jhoke: | really f'ing strange, and of course, murphy is a bitch, I am going away tomorrow night and had it set to record all my shows feH! |
| [03:22:00] | jhoke: | I have a feeling the card died after a year and change :( |
| [03:22:00] | jhoke: | unfortunately I dont have a windows box to test it in ... so who knows |
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| [03:22:00] | nuonguy: | jhoke: tvtime, xawtv, noone tunes any more? |
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| [03:24:00] | jhoke: | I have tried ptune-ui and mplayer -vo xv /dev/video0 |
| [03:25:00] | jhoke: | I dont have tvtime or xawtv installed... |
| [03:25:00] | jhoke: | y |
| [03:26:00] | jhoke: | Ok, installed tvtime... says there is no video source... and that itvt can't cat device /dev/video0 |
| [03:27:00] | nuonguy: | Ah – I think I'll have to check out the .2 branch of ivtv and use fwextract.pl to open the .exe to get the firmware .ROM |
| [03:27:00] | nuonguy: | jhoke: does dmesg give you any insight? |
| [03:27:00] | jhoke: | ivtv: ENC IRQ OVERFLOW: #1844 Stealing a Buffer, 2048 currently allocated |
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| [03:28:00] | jhoke: | ivtv: i2c client addr: 0x21 not found! |
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| [03:28:00] | jhoke: | hmmm... I am gonna reboot and see one more time what is going on... feh |
| [03:29:00] | jhoke: | brb |
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| [03:37:00] | nuonguy: | The comment at the top of ivtvfwextract.pl mentions only the PVR250 and the PVR350 – is this just an omission? Is the PVR150 not supported? |
| [03:38:00] | PatrickDK: | nuonguy, that depends |
| [03:38:00] | PatrickDK: | what version of ivtv are you using? |
| [03:39:00] | nuonguy: | 0.3.9 |
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| [03:39:00] | PatrickDK: | out of all the websites that explain this |
| [03:39:00] | PatrickDK: | you can't locate one? |
| [03:39:00] | PatrickDK: | that supports pvr150 and pvr500 |
| [03:39:00] | PatrickDK: | now go to a website that has step by step instructions, and follow them |
| [03:39:00] | PatrickDK: | there are atleast 3 for the pvr150/500 |
| [03:40:00] | nuonguy: | Um, yeah, I downloaded the .3.9 release for the pvr150 – however, that doesn't jive with the comment at the top of that file |
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| [03:40:00] | PatrickDK: | and? |
| [03:40:00] | PatrickDK: | why does that matter? |
| [03:42:00] | nuonguy: | It matters, see, since the ivtv driver is still 'in development' and maybe that isn't finished yet |
| [03:42:00] | nuonguy: | And cuz I get an error message that I don't understand |
| [03:42:00] | PatrickDK: | have you even followed the install instructions? |
| [03:42:00] | PatrickDK: | for the pvr150 |
| [03:43:00] | PatrickDK: | cause they are alot different from the pvr250 install |
| [03:45:00] | nuonguy: | Yeah, I've been following this: http://pastebin.com/367647 |
| [03:47:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, you didn't install the firmware |
| [03:47:00] | PatrickDK: | like that page tells you too |
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| [03:48:00] | djperegrine: | divx is lossless? |
| [03:48:00] | djperegrine: | is xvid ? |
| [03:48:00] | PatrickDK: | hell no |
| [03:48:00] | nuonguy: | PatrickDK: Um, yeah, that's why I'm trying to extract he firmware .ROM file |
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| [03:48:00] | jhoke: | re |
| [03:48:00] | PatrickDK: | lossless is gif and png |
| [03:48:00] | nuonguy: | jhoke; everything work now? :-) |
| [03:48:00] | djperegrine: | :O ? |
| [03:49:00] | jhoke: | Nope... no snow, just a black screen... |
| [03:49:00] | nuonguy: | bummer |
| [03:49:00] | PatrickDK: | nounguy, you don't extract it for the pvr150 |
| [03:49:00] | jhoke: | dmesg not helpfull either... |
| [03:49:00] | nuonguy: | PatrickDK? eh? |
| [03:49:00] | jhoke: | So... I am assuming the card croaked... now suggestions for a replacement? |
| [03:49:00] | PatrickDK: | no where does it say extract firmware for the pvr150 |
| [03:49:00] | PatrickDK: | it says to copy it |
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| [03:49:00] | ** holycow waves ** | |
| [03:49:00] | holycow: | hey all |
| [03:50:00] | holycow: | how long does it take your boxen to change between channels? |
| [03:50:00] | PatrickDK: | about 2seconds |
| [03:50:00] | Ryushin: | PatrickDK: Still having problems between the PVR-350 and HD-3000. Also a problem with sound causing dropped frames on the HD-3000 and pretty much just a straight hiss on a 1080i signal. I'll keep plugging away and when I find a solution, I'll tell you. BTW, XvMC is a must for a HD signal. |
| [03:50:00] | holycow: | my pvr250 takes like 4 |
| [03:50:00] | PatrickDK: | maybe 5sec at the most |
| [03:50:00] | holycow: | ah so i'm not the only one |
| [03:50:00] | jhoke: | Mine was fairly instantaneous |
| [03:50:00] | PatrickDK: | Ryushin, XvMC works for me now, I upgraded from 0.18.1 to svn |
| [03:50:00] | jhoke: | until it shit the bed ;) |
| [03:50:00] | holycow: | how come cable boxes or tvs are instantaneous? just curious |
| [03:51:00] | holycow: | btw, myth rox :) |
| [03:51:00] | nuonguy: | PatrickDK: Where did you get the firmware from? |
| [03:51:00] | PatrickDK: | holycow, cause they don't change channels |
| [03:51:00] | PatrickDK: | it's just line in |
| [03:51:00] | Ryushin: | Very cool. Did you get the gl-vsync to compile? |
| [03:51:00] | PatrickDK: | ryushin, ya, that was fixed in svn too |
| [03:51:00] | holycow: | PatrickDK, oh! i didn't know that |
| [03:51:00] | holycow: | neat |
| [03:51:00] | PatrickDK: | ya, card never does anything, when your using a cable box |
| [03:51:00] | PatrickDK: | cause the cable box changes the channel |
| [03:52:00] | Ryushin: | Okay, they must have just fixed in the last few days then. |
| [03:52:00] | PatrickDK: | well, I wouldn't say completely fixed |
| [03:52:00] | Ryushin: | I'll do a new svn download and try to compile myself. |
| [03:52:00] | PatrickDK: | it uses vsync and xvmc now |
| [03:52:00] | PatrickDK: | but it's a black screen |
| [03:52:00] | PatrickDK: | seeing if I messed something up doing all this testing or not |
| [03:52:00] | jhoke: | Hmm... ok, I need to replace this 250 (will try to RMA it ...) but pro/con 150? how does it compare to the 250? |
| [03:52:00] | PatrickDK: | jhoke, 150 is better |
| [03:53:00] | PatrickDK: | has some nicer filters on it |
| [03:53:00] | Ryushin: | I wish I knew debian more to put in the svn to the debian packages and compile them. |
| [03:53:00] | jhoke: | Patrick, ty... guess I will head out in the AM to pick it up ... |
| [03:53:00] | jhoke: | And see what I need to do to config it ;) |
| [03:53:00] | PatrickDK: | nuonguy, http://atrpms.net/dist/common/ivtv-firmware/ |
| [03:54:00] | Ryushin: | Oh, someone was here last night that made svn deb packages. I don't remember his name though. |
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| [03:55:00] | Ryushin: | It was jnc who did it. |
| [03:56:00] | nuonguy: | Gotta go get some dinner |
| [03:56:00] | Ryushin: | Maybe I can get his source debs. |
| [03:56:00] | nuonguy: | PatrickDK: I wanted to install from source, but I guess the RPMs will do.... |
| [03:56:00] | Ryushin: | nonguy: Eat for the rest of us. |
| [03:56:00] | nuonguy: | Oh, I usuallydo |
| [03:56:00] | nuonguy: | :-) |
| [03:57:00] | nuonguy: | 0 / |
| [03:57:00] | nuonguy: | --( )/ |
| [03:57:00] | nuonguy: | / \ |
| [03:57:00] | nuonguy: | This is what I look like |
| [03:57:00] | jhoke: | Holy Shiii.... I don't know what I did, but it *almost* works now... just some "snow" in the lower channels |
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| [04:01:00] | jhoke: | well, I thought it was... video is way choppy... |
| [04:01:00] | Ryushin: | Well, it's source time. I can't wait. :/ |
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| [04:02:00] | Ryushin: | It just makes upgrading a pain. |
| [04:02:00] | PatrickDK: | heh |
| [04:04:00] | ** Ryushin is about to get flamed. :) ** | |
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| [04:05:00] | fatmatt: | heyas |
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| [04:06:00] | tarick: | Dumb question, I have looked around and was wondering If I am right in saying the ATI TV Wonder ELite (Theatre 550) is not currently supported under linux? |
| [04:07:00] | fatmatt: | tarick: do you know what chipset it uses? |
| [04:07:00] | tarick: | Theatre 550 |
| [04:07:00] | tarick: | it's the new ATI card |
| [04:07:00] | fatmatt: | I don't recall seeing that chipset in the kernel... |
| [04:08:00] | tarick: | fatmatt: that's what I figured, I am just here to see if anyone figured out a kludge I haven't come across |
| [04:08:00] | tarick: | too bad, the only card I have seen with a 3D comb filter |
| [04:09:00] | tarick: | what a waste of $150.00 cdn |
| [04:09:00] | fatmatt: | have you tried th ati drivers? |
| [04:10:00] | fatmatt: | radeon are in the kernel, they might work... |
| [04:10:00] | fatmatt: | its a tv tuner card? |
| [04:10:00] | tarick: | fatmatt: it's a tuner card |
| [04:11:00] | tarick: | my video card is a RADEON 9550, no problems at all |
| [04:11:00] | fatmatt: | does lscpi tell you anything interesting about it? |
| [04:13:00] | tarick: | unfortunately not much |
| [04:13:00] | tarick: | it's doesn't read as a recognized card |
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| [04:24:00] | mr-david: | have an hdtv antenna question. I get good reception on some channels with the antenna in one position and good reception for the others with the antenna moved to a second position. is it possible to run two antennas in parallel? Will it solve my problem? |
| [04:24:00] | PatrickDK: | they have to go to different tunercards |
| [04:25:00] | PatrickDK: | it is possible you might be able to join the signals, but you will have to test it to be sure |
| [04:25:00] | Ryushin: | mr-david: You can use two antennas and plug them in together. |
| [04:25:00] | Agrajag-: | i seem to recall some people having set up devices which rotate their antenna, and a script which does the rotation on channel change |
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| [04:26:00] | Ryushin: | mr-david: Which HD card are you using? |
| [04:28:00] | funkyelf: | aparently according to the FCC, any customer should be able to get a firewire enabled cablebox from their cable provider if they ask for it |
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| [04:28:00] | eiggirC: | doesn't say "for free" |
| [04:29:00] | funkyelf: | Effective April 1, 2004, upon request of a customer, replace any leased high definition set-top box, which does not include a functional IEEE 1394 interface, with one that includes a functional IEEE 1394 interface or upgrade the customer’s set-top box by download or other means to ensure that the IEEE 1394 interface is functional. |
| [04:29:00] | funkyelf: | *replace |
| [04:30:00] | sphing: | then what... have the video come through |
| [04:31:00] | funkyelf: | well I have a Scientific Atlanta 3250 which MythTV is supposed to support as of 0.17, but mine doesn't have firewire on it |
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| [04:32:00] | PatrickDK: | well, no firewire, your out of luck for pure mpeg2 streams |
| [04:33:00] | PatrickDK: | I wonder if there is a dvi capture card |
| [04:33:00] | PatrickDK: | that would solve all these problems |
| [04:33:00] | PatrickDK: | encrypted vs non-encrypted, and lack of firewire support |
| [04:33:00] | funkyelf: | how am I out of luck for pure mpeg2 streams...i would think I'd be out of luck for everything else except mpeg2 streams |
| [04:34:00] | PatrickDK: | well, if firewire doesn't work |
| [04:34:00] | PatrickDK: | you can't get the streams |
| [04:35:00] | funkyelf: | ...right, I hope to get a new cable box. That would be great. I just hope I can use my onboard firewire. Somone was sayin that Asus had problems |
| [04:36:00] | sphing: | how does the firewire work? |
| [04:36:00] | johndo: | can you but a replacement cable box that supports firewire? |
| [04:36:00] | funkyelf: | aparently you just set it up as a capture device in myth. I've never ran myth, so I don't know...my stuff should be here sometime this week |
| [04:37:00] | de-v: | please promise one thing |
| [04:37:00] | funkyelf: | johndo, you shouldn't have to buy anything...your cable company is required to provide you with a replacement |
| [04:37:00] | de-v: | you'll read the docs before asking a billion questions. |
| [04:37:00] | johndo: | funkyelf, replacement? the one I have isn't broken, I just want with firewire |
| [04:37:00] | funkyelf: | de-v, the docs on mythtv.org? |
| [04:37:00] | de-v: | and google |
| [04:37:00] | de-v: | =] |
| [04:38:00] | funkyelf: | johndo, exactly...they need to give you one with working firewire support |
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| [04:38:00] | djperegrine: | how do I make it so the commercial flagging goes BEFORE the transcoding job ? |
| [04:38:00] | de-v: | select it in the setup menu |
| [04:38:00] | johndo: | funkyelf, are you joking? that sounds weird. |
| [04:38:00] | abarbaccia: | guys – im having a little trouble – the webpage is all messed up from my myth box. I can no longer see the recordings i have, movies on my box, or music |
| [04:38:00] | djperegrine: | I did |
| [04:38:00] | abarbaccia: | i feel like the database isnt connecting or isnt being transmitted |
| [04:38:00] | de-v: | why would you want to commercial flag before you transcode? |
| [04:38:00] | de-v: | transcoding removes commercial flags... heh |
| [04:39:00] | djperegrine: | oh yea |
| [04:39:00] | djperegrine: | nm |
| [04:39:00] | de-v: | :) |
| [04:39:00] | funkyelf: | johndo look it up from fcc.gov, http://www.fcc.gov -> Rules & Regulations -> Code of Federal Regulations Search -> Title 47 Telecommunication Oct. 1, 2004 Oct. 1, 2004 -> 76.640 |
| [04:39:00] | abarbaccia: | nevermind.....turns out i was browsing the wrong box |
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| [04:40:00] | djperegrine: | can I have it so it flags before and after in case I want to watch the show while its transcoding? |
| [04:41:00] | funkyelf: | I still have no solution for IR Transmitting and IR Recieving using a motherboard which only has one serial port. On the main lirc.org page I see that they suport TIRA which is a usb transmitter / reciever, but I see no documentation on how to set it up |
| [04:42:00] | de-v: | djperegrine: hrm, no, not that i can think of |
| [04:42:00] | djperegrine: | ok |
| [04:42:00] | de-v: | even if you save copy of the original, you still have to commflag after it transcodes i you setup commercialflagging on the fly |
| [04:42:00] | djperegrine: | yea |
| [04:43:00] | de-v: | but i wonder, if you use commercialflagging on the fly then select commercialflag after transcode, if its smart or dumb enough to do that |
| [04:43:00] | djperegrine: | o_O |
| [04:43:00] | de-v: | then select keep copy of original, guess you'd have to delete that manually, incase it finished at the end heh |
| [04:43:00] | de-v: | er, before the end. |
| [04:43:00] | djperegrine: | hrm |
| [04:44:00] | de-v: | if it did what was select, you'd have the original flagging on the fly, then it transcodes off the original to a seperate file, then commflags that if you have select commflag after transcoding set |
| [04:44:00] | funkyelf: | anyone know what the IR port on the back of a cable box might be used for? It looks like a mini-plug like something you'd plug headphones into |
| [04:44:00] | de-v: | know what im saying? |
| [04:44:00] | de-v: | but you'd have 2 files. would have to delete the original manually or something. |
| [04:44:00] | djperegrine: | where is the "on the fly " setting? |
| [04:45:00] | de-v: | in setup somewhere, the labrynth of setup. |
| [04:45:00] | de-v: | you dont have it commflag on the fly? |
| [04:45:00] | djperegrine: | I dunno |
| [04:45:00] | johndo: | funkyelf, retransmission consent? |
| [04:45:00] | de-v: | thats nice for commercial skipping while its recording. |
| [04:45:00] | de-v: | instead of waiting till it finishes. |
| [04:45:00] | djperegrine: | yea |
| [04:45:00] | djperegrine: | I'm using like almost no CPU so I am enabling all these options now :P |
| [04:45:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, commflag on the fly takes a descent amount of cpu usage |
| [04:46:00] | de-v: | disks have to be fast enough too. |
| [04:46:00] | PatrickDK: | about 500–600 mhz for sdtv |
| [04:46:00] | de-v: | yeah it does, but my xp3200 with dual 250's can do both streams and both commflag on the fly |
| [04:46:00] | de-v: | no problemo |
| [04:46:00] | PatrickDK: | disks being fast enough shouldn't be an issue |
| [04:46:00] | de-v: | even while streaming another show to another frontend heh |
| [04:46:00] | de-v: | yeah my sata can do it. |
| [04:46:00] | PatrickDK: | expecially if you have some extra memoryfor write cache |
| [04:46:00] | djperegrine: | I have "start auto-commercial flagging jobs when the recording starts" set |
| [04:46:00] | PatrickDK: | it won't even hit the disk |
| [04:46:00] | djperegrine: | I just recently set that |
| [04:47:00] | johndo: | funkyelf, I don't see what part refers to my cable company being required to re-issue me a digital cable box with firewire capabilities |
| [04:47:00] | djperegrine: | is that the option you were talking about? |
| [04:47:00] | de-v: | yeah thats slang for onthefly :P |
| [04:47:00] | johndo: | funkyelf, it appears to say that the cable company isn't allowed to rebroadcast content that contains commercials |
| [04:47:00] | djperegrine: | yea |
| [04:47:00] | djperegrine: | its set right now |
| [04:47:00] | djperegrine: | and I have a flag Commercial job set in the queue |
| [04:48:00] | djperegrine: | and the show I just recorded doesn't have any flags |
| [04:48:00] | de-v: | well if you're transcoding, it removes commflags |
| [04:49:00] | djperegrine: | well its transcoding right now |
| [04:49:00] | djperegrine: | its at like 20 % |
| [04:49:00] | de-v: | thats why it has no commflags :P |
| [04:49:00] | djperegrine: | oh |
| [04:49:00] | de-v: | heh |
| [04:49:00] | djperegrine: | I see |
| [04:49:00] | de-v: | SMACK |
| [04:49:00] | ** de-v shakes you ** | |
| [04:49:00] | de-v: | heh |
| [04:49:00] | djperegrine: | well I thought it was playing the old file still |
| [04:51:00] | funkyelf: | johndo, did you not read the part I pasted before?... |
| [04:51:00] | funkyelf: | Effective April 1, 2004, upon request of a customer, replace any leased high definition set-top box, which does not include a functional IEEE 1394 interface, with one that includes a functional IEEE 1394 interface or upgrade the customer’s set-top box by download or other means to ensure that the IEEE 1394 interface is functional. |
| [04:51:00] | johndo: | funkyelf, so far, I want to say thnak you for the information, but I think I followed your instructions wrong |
| [04:51:00] | djperegrine: | de-v, in your experience, what type of commercial flagging has worked best? |
| [04:52:00] | johndo: | funkyelf, I see my mistakje, I was going to 76.64 and not 76.640 |
| [04:52:00] | johndo: | funkyelf, I will be contacting my cable company shortly (: |
| [04:53:00] | funkyelf: | johndo, good luck...Hope it goes well for you. |
| [04:53:00] | johndo: | funkyelf, Thanks again |
| [04:54:00] | johndo: | funkyelf, does it frequently not go well? |
| [04:54:00] | funkyelf: | johndo, can't say, I just wouldn't expect it to...I'm not that optomistic when dealing with cable companies |
| [04:55:00] | funkyelf: | johndo, you may get a new box with a firewire connection but it may be sending encrypted streams of data which would be useless |
| [04:55:00] | johndo: | funkyelf, I understand yout cynicism |
| [04:55:00] | eiggirC: | Effective April 1, 2004 <-- april fools joke anyone ? |
| [04:55:00] | johndo: | eiggirC, its real |
| [04:55:00] | eiggirC: | johndo: 1 April is a bad day to announce anythging :) |
| [04:55:00] | johndo: | (: especially something that helps the consumer |
| [04:56:00] | eiggirC: | YAY! I got to order my PVR-150 today |
| [04:56:00] | eiggirC: | johndo: and something with a possibly jokeworthy subject |
| [04:56:00] | de-v: | djperegrine: i just transcode on the fly. leave them mpeg2. i only cutlist/transcode/commflag the ones i want to keep for any lenth of time. if i really want to keep, i cutlist then burn to dvdr from mpeg2. i dont transcode all of them because i want to use the original video format if i want to do anything with it later. but thats just me |
| [04:56:00] | djperegrine: | I only have 30 gig harddrive |
| [04:56:00] | johndo: | what is a dvi or HDMI interface |
| [04:56:00] | eiggirC: | "We the council believe your street water supply has been contaminated with meningitis. Please hand in a urine sample to the local post office asap." |
| [04:57:00] | johndo: | (if these questions are answered ina faq somewhere, please let me know) |
| [04:57:00] | Ryushin: | patrickdk: Where did your source build want to put the /etc/mythtv files? |
| [04:57:00] | eiggirC: | djperegrine: heh that will last all of a couple hours.... assuming its empty |
| [04:57:00] | de-v: | johndo: that specific question, is a 1 line google search |
| [04:57:00] | de-v: | :P |
| [04:57:00] | johndo: | de-v, thats true, thanks |
| [04:57:00] | djperegrine: | eiggirC, each show is around 1 gig |
| [04:58:00] | eiggirC: | djperegrine: fair enough. I actually haven't got my tuna card yet. |
| [04:58:00] | de-v: | johndo: you'll get a much more detailed explanation there anyway hehe |
| [04:58:00] | PatrickDK: | ryushin, what are you talking about /etc/mythtv? |
| [04:58:00] | de-v: | djperegrine: that depends on your bitrates. because im a bit of a videophile mine are 2.4gig an hour |
| [04:58:00] | PatrickDK: | there is no such thing |
| [04:58:00] | djperegrine: | yea |
| [04:58:00] | djperegrine: | thats around how much I get |
| [04:59:00] | johndo: | really i am wondering if I can interface the cable box with a mythbox without an expensive TVtuner card |
| [04:59:00] | johndo: | which i willprobably get anyway |
| [04:59:00] | Ryushin: | Nevermind. I just symlinked /etc/mythtv to /usr/local/etc/mythtv. mythbackend starts now. |
| [04:59:00] | de-v: | i cant wait to play the hdtv game. |
| [04:59:00] | de-v: | 9gig/hr hehe |
| [04:59:00] | djperegrine: | ah |
| [04:59:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, I have no /usr/local/etc/mythtv |
| [05:00:00] | de-v: | prolly get 3 400gigs in raid5 for hdtv heh |
| [05:00:00] | PatrickDK: | I guess I'm just using ~/.mythtv |
| [05:02:00] | Ryushin: | Yea. I have my change to a mythtv user. |
| [05:02:00] | PatrickDK: | ya |
| [05:03:00] | PatrickDK: | sudo -H -b -u mythtv mythbackend |
| [05:03:00] | Ryushin: | That works too. :0 |
| [05:03:00] | Ryushin: | :) |
| [05:03:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, I am doing that for the frontends |
| [05:03:00] | PatrickDK: | cause I am running two frontends on this one machine |
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| [05:04:00] | PatrickDK: | one video card, and one pvr350 |
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| [05:09:00] | djperegrine: | wait, why the hell am I transcoding this shit |
| [05:09:00] | djperegrine: | I can just make the bitrate lower :> |
| [05:12:00] | funkyelf: | johndo, so you know you will not be able to get any analog channels via 1394...you'll want to get a TVTuner card |
| [05:13:00] | funkyelf: | are there any good how-to's on putting stuff captured using MythTV onto a DVD? |
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| [05:14:00] | funkyelf: | *a DVD that is playable by a normal DVD player |
| [05:14:00] | djperegrine: | what distro? |
| [05:15:00] | funkyelf: | gentoo? |
| [05:15:00] | Faithful: | Hey guys you got 5.1 sound happening on Myth? |
| [05:15:00] | funkyelf: | I haven't started yet...my hardware should be coming in this week sometime |
| [05:15:00] | Faithful: | What card should I buy? |
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| [05:16:00] | mijenks: | does anyone know of a capture card that will pick up digital cable signal (from the cable box) with channels up into the 800s? |
| [05:16:00] | mijenks: | or do they only support up to channel 125? |
| [05:17:00] | funkyelf: | mijenks, I don't think that is possible. I hear you can get an IR Transmitter and hook up composite video from the box to your card |
| [05:18:00] | de-v: | mijenks:if you're getting the signal from the digital cable box, why do you need a tuner? |
| [05:18:00] | mijenks: | de-v: i was thinking i could watch one thing (on tv, for e.g.) while recording another, but i guess with a cable box, that isn't possible |
| [05:18:00] | PatrickDK: | yep |
| [05:19:00] | PatrickDK: | each cable company does it defently |
| [05:19:00] | PatrickDK: | you would have to get the cable company to plug a card into your device to use it, without a cable box |
| [05:19:00] | frog: | Anyone have nuv2disc working properly on Fedora Core 4? |
| [05:19:00] | PatrickDK: | and only some hdtv's support that |
| [05:19:00] | PatrickDK: | and they have not worked very well so far |
| [05:19:00] | de-v: | the digital cable box acts as the tuner, you connect a serial/usb/whatever cable from your myth to your digital cable box and use a script to change the channel |
| [05:19:00] | Atamido: | National Talk Like a Pirate Day is Monday! http://www.talklikeapirate.com/ |
| [05:20:00] | mijenks: | PatrickDK|de-v: i guess i could get two cable boxes, then? |
| [05:20:00] | PatrickDK: | yep |
| [05:21:00] | djperegrine: | intel uses svia chipsets right? |
| [05:21:00] | djperegrine: | *via |
| [05:22:00] | PatrickDK: | intel uses all kinds of chipsets, but I have never seen thm use via |
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| [05:22:00] | djperegrine: | oh |
| [05:22:00] | PatrickDK: | they use intel, super???? |
| [05:22:00] | djperegrine: | lol |
| [05:22:00] | joseronnick: | anyone here using minimyth as a frontend? |
| [05:22:00] | PatrickDK: | all the lower end motherboards use intel chiupsets |
| [05:22:00] | frog: | I'm having a very specific problem getting nuv2disc to respond to remote control key presses (I have altered my .lircrc for eboxy) |
| [05:23:00] | mijenks: | that sucks, extra $6 per month for each extra cable box |
| [05:23:00] | frog: | nuv2disc works properly with my keyboard, but not lirc. |
| [05:23:00] | frog: | any ideas? |
| [05:24:00] | PatrickDK: | the server boards normally use serverworks chipsets |
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| [05:24:00] | funkyelf: | I tried finding a page which explains the differences between master / slave / frontend / backend, but I couldn't find one. I would think it would be the first thing you read in the docs |
| [05:24:00] | PatrickDK: | funkyelf, it is one of the first things in the docs |
| [05:25:00] | dev-: | you learn that by reading all the docs |
| [05:25:00] | dev-: | hehe |
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| [05:25:00] | dev_ is now known as de-v | |
| [05:25:00] | de-v: | oh yay, this spelling isnt taken lol |
| [05:25:00] | djperegrine: | funkyelf, you can have a master backend connected to slave backends |
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| [05:27:00] | djperegrine: | is digtal cable DVB ? |
| [05:30:00] | djperegrine: | oh I guess not |
| [05:31:00] | guitar256: | Does anybody else have problems recording stuff on Comedy Central.....It seems their clocks are not lined up with UTC |
| [05:32:00] | PatrickDK: | some thing with fox here |
| [05:32:00] | PatrickDK: | wish there was a per channel time offset |
| [05:32:00] | djperegrine: | it seems fine here |
| [05:32:00] | frog: | No, I've been recording The Daily Show just fine here. |
| [05:32:00] | djperegrine: | yea me to |
| [05:32:00] | PatrickDK: | fox in d.c. |
| [05:33:00] | de-v: | for me its specific shows on spiketv like ultimate fighter heh |
| [05:33:00] | de-v: | pita |
| [05:34:00] | de-v: | patrick you can do per channel; |
| [05:34:00] | funkyelf: | I am reading a posting here... http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5248 and This doesn't make sense to me...does it make sense to anyone else?..."To be fair. When I setup my Myth Backend I set it up to use the XBMC scipt as my front end and have not used the regular myth front end much." |
| [05:34:00] | de-v: | at least in mythweb you can |
| [05:34:00] | PatrickDK: | oh heh, I haven't seen that yet |
| [05:34:00] | de-v: | its probably in record settings in the interface |
| [05:35:00] | de-v: | i always use mythweb for setting up shows.. much faster than remote hehe |
| [05:35:00] | PatrickDK: | no, that is per recording |
| [05:35:00] | PatrickDK: | not per channel |
| [05:35:00] | de-v: | thats what i meant im sorry |
| [05:35:00] | PatrickDK: | if you set a new recording up |
| [05:35:00] | PatrickDK: | you have to remember what the offset is for that channel |
| [05:35:00] | de-v: | so for you, the entire channel is off? |
| [05:35:00] | PatrickDK: | I would like itto autoinsert it :) |
| [05:35:00] | PatrickDK: | ya |
| [05:35:00] | de-v: | strange |
| [05:35:00] | PatrickDK: | fox5 here is fast by like 5min |
| [05:35:00] | de-v: | dont have anything like that here, you're useing ntpd right? heh |
| [05:36:00] | de-v: | weird |
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| [05:36:00] | PatrickDK: | oh hell ya, have ntpd connected to 14 servers |
| [05:36:00] | PatrickDK: | and to 16 of my computers |
| [05:37:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, scifi channel is always dead on |
| [05:37:00] | PatrickDK: | when the shows stop and start |
| [05:37:00] | de-v: | i wonder if you can set the delay in a recording group |
| [05:37:00] | PatrickDK: | so are most other cannels |
| [05:37:00] | de-v: | then just select the recording group for that channel |
| [05:40:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, network, videocard, and pvr350 are all on the same interrupt |
| [05:40:00] | PatrickDK: | atleast the harddrive and soundcard have their own |
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| [05:42:00] | ** mijenks wants 16 computers ** | |
| [05:42:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, when they cost around 5k each, without monitors |
| [05:43:00] | PatrickDK: | I have my own 42u rack at a colo in d.c. |
| [05:43:00] | djperegrine: | 5k ? |
| [05:43:00] | PatrickDK: | it's loaded up with some servers |
| [05:43:00] | djperegrine: | it might be like 1k each MAYBE |
| [05:43:00] | PatrickDK: | what might cost 1k each? |
| [05:43:00] | djperegrine: | the PC's |
| [05:44:00] | PatrickDK: | no, mine range from 4k to 8k |
| [05:44:00] | djperegrine: | why that much, that is insane |
| [05:44:00] | PatrickDK: | most have 6 73g or 146g 15k scsi drives |
| [05:44:00] | djperegrine: | lol |
| [05:44:00] | PatrickDK: | I need speed |
| [05:44:00] | PatrickDK: | mainly drive speed |
| [05:44:00] | djperegrine: | for recordings? |
| [05:44:00] | PatrickDK: | no |
| [05:44:00] | djperegrine: | oh |
| [05:44:00] | PatrickDK: | webservers, database servers |
| [05:44:00] | djperegrine: | ohh for servers |
| [05:45:00] | djperegrine: | taht is different :P |
| [05:45:00] | PatrickDK: | have a few hundred thousand users |
| [05:45:00] | djperegrine: | yea I get it now :P |
| [05:45:00] | djperegrine: | thats accually pretty cheap :P |
| [05:45:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, a normal home pc |
| [05:45:00] | PatrickDK: | we used to kill them in about 2 weeks |
| [05:45:00] | PatrickDK: | it would be burned out |
| [05:45:00] | djperegrine: | heh |
| [05:45:00] | PatrickDK: | well, what they where running the website on |
| [05:45:00] | PatrickDK: | I changed that |
| [05:46:00] | PatrickDK: | now it has run for 2years without hardware damage |
| [05:50:00] | mijenks: | PatrickDK: could i capture on a channel above 125 if i tune the cable box to a high channel? |
| [05:50:00] | PatrickDK: | you can capture on any cablebox channel |
| [05:50:00] | PatrickDK: | don't use the tuner on the capture card |
| [05:50:00] | PatrickDK: | use the video line in |
| [05:50:00] | PatrickDK: | svideo/composite |
| [05:50:00] | mijenks: | ah ok |
| [05:51:00] | PatrickDK: | that way, anything you can do on your tv, your mythtv can do |
| [05:51:00] | frog: | anyone in here using nuv2disc? |
| [05:51:00] | mijenks: | PatrickDK: thanks a bunch |
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| [05:53:00] | guitar256: | what's the best way to rip DVDs to a file so they can be played in myth? |
| [05:54:00] | immolo: | xvid? |
| [05:55:00] | guitar256: | i've never ripped stuff on linux, do you know of a place to get started? |
| [05:56:00] | immolo: | I used dvdrip in linux but myth has a dvd ripping feautre too but I've never used |
| [05:58:00] | djperegrine: | omg0rz |
| [05:59:00] | de-v: | better off useing dvdrip since you can do that while you're watching tv — if you rip in myth you cant do anything in it while its ripping which may or may not be annoying for you |
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| [06:00:00] | djperegrine: | mpeg=4 is so much better then mpeg-2 :O |
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| [06:01:00] | frog: | leave |
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| [06:01:00] | Lonald: | MythTV locks up everytime i try ot watch live tv or watch a video. I can do playback in mplayer just fine. Any suggestions Xorg.conf looks fine |
| [06:02:00] | dillweed: | anyone here have any experience with mediaportal vs mythtv? |
| [06:02:00] | de-v: | Lonald: you're redirecting mythfrontend output to a logfile i hope, what does that say when it locks up? |
| [06:04:00] | immolo: | dillweed- It just looks like myth for windows but other than that no |
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| [06:05:00] | Lonald: | its logs to the DB |
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| [06:05:00] | dillweed: | (immolo): that's my understanding. opensource too, but windows. I'm running a mythtv which works good, but am always open to alternatives. |
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| [06:07:00] | immolo: | dillweed- Myth seems more mature but I suppose if you have a spare box |
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| [06:08:00] | k-man: | afternoon all |
| [06:08:00] | k-man: | whats new in the mythtv world? |
| [06:08:00] | dillweed: | immolo true, myth is great, works great after some tweaking and seems to run run a tad bit faster than anything windows (not that i actually benchmarked anything) |
| [06:09:00] | dillweed: | btw where does mythtv store its themes? |
| [06:09:00] | immolo: | Linux is pretty much faster then windows in everything but booting |
| [06:10:00] | immolo: | /usr/share/mythtv/themes |
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| [06:10:00] | ** de-v spits soda all over his screen ** | |
| [06:10:00] | Lonald: | alright got it logged |
| [06:10:00] | johndo: | windows isn't done botting when you see your desktop |
| [06:10:00] | de-v: | say what?! hehe |
| [06:10:00] | Lonald: | let me get int mysql |
| [06:10:00] | de-v: | yeah all my linux installs boot alot faster than windows |
| [06:11:00] | dillweed: | mine too |
| [06:11:00] | immolo: | naw, until the sysinitv gets replaced windows is faster at booting |
| [06:12:00] | Lonald: | hmm |
| [06:12:00] | immolo: | I put the v in the wrong place :P |
| [06:12:00] | Lonald: | not figuring out the cmd for log files |
| [06:12:00] | dillweed: | mythfrontend -v all > error.log |
| [06:13:00] | dillweed: | I've seen some stuff on initng which seems to show some improvement over sysvinit |
| [06:14:00] | dillweed: | not to get off the subject of mythtv :) |
| [06:14:00] | immolo: | dillweed- yeah 3–4 second booting :D |
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| [06:15:00] | dillweed: | immolo you ought to give it a try and tell us how it goes hehe |
| [06:15:00] | immolo: | I have |
| [06:15:00] | immolo: | immolo dillweed- yeah 3–4 second booting :D |
| [06:15:00] | dillweed: | cool, btw what distro did you run it on? |
| [06:16:00] | immolo: | it booted so fast I couldn't read the errors flly across the screen |
| [06:16:00] | immolo: | Gentoo |
| [06:16:00] | dillweed: | sweet me too. |
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| [06:16:00] | dillweed: | maybe I should give it a try. |
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| [06:16:00] | immolo: | naw, give it a few more months |
| [06:17:00] | dillweed: | still too young in development? |
| [06:17:00] | immolo: | quite young |
| [06:17:00] | immolo: | and every few days is a new release |
| [06:18:00] | dillweed: | yea, I haven't kept up with it, just read a few things about it and browsed the website for a bit. |
| [06:18:00] | immolo: | it's not bad |
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| [06:19:00] | immolo: | just needs some tuning |
| [06:20:00] | Lonald: | nothing in the error log |
| [06:20:00] | Lonald: | really |
| [06:20:00] | Lonald: | it locks up without putting in the error |
| [06:20:00] | snerfu: | I an trying to figure out how to operate an external digital cable box with mythtv, since the tuner will need to remain on channel 3 right? I read all the IR blaster stuff and can change the channels via serial on the box. |
| [06:21:00] | dillweed: | Lonald sounds like your tuner is set correctly for ivtv. I had the same problem earlier, but changing the tuner when the ivtv module was loaded fixed it. |
| [06:22:00] | Lonald: | so just rerun mythsetup? |
| [06:22:00] | Lonald: | 005-09–18 23:15:44.084 audio waiting for space on soundcard: have 928 need 4096 |
| [06:22:00] | Lonald: | 2005-09–18 23:15:44.086 nVidiaVideoSync: VBlank ioctl did not work, unimplemented in this driver? |
| [06:22:00] | Lonald: | 2005-09–18 23:15:44.089 DRMVideoSync: Could not open device /dev/dri/card0, No such file or directory |
| [06:22:00] | Lonald: | 2005-09–18 23:15:44.091 audio waiting for space on soundcard: have 2208 need 4096 |
| [06:22:00] | Lonald: | 2005-09–18 23:15:44.093 RTCVideoSync: Could not set RTC frequency, Permission denied. |
| [06:22:00] | Lonald: | 2005-09–18 23:15:44.095 Using audio as timebase |
| [06:22:00] | Lonald: | 2005-09–18 23:15:44.095 Video timing method: USleep with busy wait |
| [06:22:00] | Lonald: | 2005-09–18 23:15:44.095 Refresh rate: 11745, frame interval: 33366 |
| [06:22:00] | Lonald: | 2005-09–18 23:15:44.101 Broadcasting free space avail |
| [06:22:00] | Lonald: | 2005-09–18 23:15:44.101 audio waiting for space on soundcard: have 64 need 4096 |
| [06:22:00] | dillweed: | no you need to fix the parameters for loading ivtv. |
| [06:23:00] | de-v: | Lonald: next time ask before you decide to spam everybody |
| [06:23:00] | de-v: | thats a great way to have everyone ignore you. |
| [06:23:00] | Lonald: | sorry, acutally was cutting that to a txt pad |
| [06:23:00] | Lonald: | can't watch tv, and manage pc at the same time |
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| [06:25:00] | de-v: | looks like its your card settings, it cant find it. my first guess anyway. |
| [06:25:00] | ** de-v crawls to bed ** | |
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| [06:28:00] | PatrickDK: | heh |
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| [06:31:00] | snerfu: | So with a digital cable box even changing the channel via serial to the cable box, you still have to leave the tuner on 3 right? |
| [06:31:00] | PatrickDK: | yes |
| [06:31:00] | PatrickDK: | but why not use svideo instead of a coax |
| [06:32:00] | PatrickDK: | I mean, that defeats the point of having digital cable |
| [06:32:00] | snerfu: | oh |
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| [06:32:00] | snerfu: | yout right! |
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| [06:32:00] | snerfu: | youf |
| [06:32:00] | snerfu: | your |
| [06:32:00] | snerfu: | sorry new keyboard |
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| [06:34:00] | snerfu: | I knew I was missing something there. |
| [06:34:00] | snerfu: | Have a good night, thanks. |
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| [06:50:00] | jnc: | hey um |
| [06:50:00] | jnc: | what commandline do i use for mythgame from svn? |
| [06:52:00] | djperegrine: | eh? |
| [06:52:00] | jnc: | i mean, for xmame |
| [06:53:00] | jnc: | in mythgame from svn, it wants me to specify the xmame path |
| [06:53:00] | jnc: | or something like that |
| [06:53:00] | jnc: | i don't know what to put |
| [06:53:00] | jnc: | "xmame %s -rompath /home/media/games/mame/roms" is what i tried |
| [06:53:00] | djperegrine: | ohh |
| [06:54:00] | djperegrine: | yea i have no idea |
| [06:54:00] | jnc: | it loads the game zerowing, which i have, but then the window is not fullscreen |
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| [07:16:00] | Lonald: | ugh! i got my mythfrontend resoluiton bigger then my x11 config |
| [07:16:00] | Lonald: | i cna't read aynthing or change it back |
| [07:16:00] | Lonald: | is this info stored in the db? |
| [07:16:00] | jnc: | Lonald: you could change your x11 config to a virtual size |
| [07:16:00] | jnc: | eh? |
| [07:16:00] | Lonald: | i have it for myth -320 |
| [07:16:00] | Lonald: | and for x11 860 |
| [07:16:00] | Lonald: | when i run myth its unusable |
| [07:16:00] | jnc: | Virtual 1280 1024 |
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| [07:17:00] | Lonald: | i was trying to figure out what was causing hte lock up... failed at that |
| [07:17:00] | jnc: | ohh |
| [07:17:00] | Lonald: | i did something really stupd. |
| [07:17:00] | Lonald: | i didn't se any switches for mythfrontend |
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| [07:19:00] | Lonald: | suggestions? |
| [07:19:00] | jnc: | die? |
| [07:19:00] | jnc: | it's an option, just sayin' |
| [07:19:00] | ** jnc grumbles back to what he was doing ** | |
| [07:20:00] | Lonald: | can't guns empty |
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| [07:23:00] | jnc: | 'sup jung |
| [07:23:00] | jnc: | bah |
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| [07:28:00] | NightBird: | it's talk like a pirate day today |
| [07:28:00] | jnc: | yeah |
| [07:28:00] | jnc: | i'm frustrated with xmame |
| [07:28:00] | jnc: | i can't seem to make it go fullscreen in x11 |
| [07:28:00] | jnc: | i've got the xmame 0.99 stuff from debian unstable |
| [07:28:00] | jnc: | built, installed, plays a game (though not fullscreen) |
| [07:29:00] | jnc: | the '-x11' option is missing from the xmame binaries |
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| [07:55:00] | laga: | NightBird: arrrrrr! |
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| [07:57:00] | djperegrine: | Does the cable send more then one language audio channel? |
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| [07:57:00] | djperegrine: | like in cowboy bebop is there english dubbed and japense ? |
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| [08:17:00] | jnc: | cable? |
| [08:17:00] | jnc: | i don't know |
| [08:18:00] | jnc: | i sort of figured out the zoom / fullscreen issue |
| [08:18:00] | jnc: | now on to the "my joystick doesn't freakin' work" issue |
| [08:18:00] | jnc: | lovely day don't you know |
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| [08:33:00] | metusine: | i recently upgraded to a sb live sound card, and now instead of having controls PCM, MASTER etc, I've got Analog Front, Analog Rear etc. Myth now (of course) can't find the line in and I get no sound on my recordings. |
| [08:33:00] | metusine: | anyone know how I should go about convincing mythtv to use the new card? |
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| [08:38:00] | abarbaccia: | how do i change the default program a file type opens in |
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| [08:48:00] | metusine: | settings, videos, file types |
| [08:48:00] | metusine: | or something similar |
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| [09:48:00] | jnc: | got it... |
| [09:55:00] | jnc: | DISPLAY=:0 xmame.SDL -joytype 5 -joydevname /dev/input/js -rompath /home/media/games/mame/roms -skip_disclaimer -skip_gameinfo -fullscreen -dp sdl -ef 2 %s |
| [09:55:00] | jnc: | so far anyways |
| [09:55:00] | jnc: | i don't know if that will work in mythgame |
| [09:55:00] | jnc: | it seems to work from x11 otherwise |
| [09:55:00] | jnc: | that's for xmame 0.99 in debian unstable |
| [09:56:00] | jnc: | the audio seems a little glitchy |
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| [10:01:00] | Bhaal: | Hey guys |
| [10:02:00] | Bhaal: | Im running debian sid, and using the debian myth packages... Now its not able to connect to mysql coz of incorrect mysql client protocol ... Is there a known fix for this? |
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| [10:03:00] | Bhaal: | Ive downgraded mysql-server to 4.0.24 and its still complaining... I cant remember which version of mysql was running before doing a dist-upgrade just before |
| [10:05:00] | eiggirC: | Bhaal: I'd upgrade everything |
| [10:05:00] | Bhaal: | eiggirC: Ive upgraded the mythtv debian packages... Still no go |
| [10:06:00] | jnc: | Bhaal: you need mysql 4.1 |
| [10:07:00] | Bhaal: | jnc... Well mysql-4.1.14 is what was installed by dist-upgrade... |
| [10:07:00] | Bhaal: | And its complaining |
| [10:07:00] | jnc: | oh |
| [10:07:00] | jnc: | you may have to purge everything mysql related |
| [10:07:00] | jnc: | that's not a REAL answer i know |
| [10:07:00] | jnc: | but that's what i did and it worked |
| [10:07:00] | Bhaal: | No, coz then I lose all my myth settings... |
| [10:08:00] | metusine: | heh |
| [10:08:00] | Bhaal: | Maybe I copy mythconverg out... |
| [10:08:00] | metusine: | sometimes if somethings asseds |
| [10:08:00] | metusine: | dropping mythconverg is a good option |
| [10:08:00] | metusine: | but back it up first |
| [10:09:00] | metusine: | and if it works afterwards |
| [10:09:00] | jnc: | i don't know what to do about debian and mythtv |
| [10:09:00] | jnc: | it seems to suck a whole lot |
| [10:09:00] | metusine: | you know it was an issue with your config |
| [10:09:00] | metusine: | what's debian got to do with it? |
| [10:09:00] | jnc: | well, the debian packages that are out there for mythtv do not include mythgame |
| [10:09:00] | jnc: | i had to hack that in there manually |
| [10:10:00] | metusine: | ahhhh |
| [10:10:00] | metusine: | you need to emerge gentoo |
| [10:10:00] | jnc: | so i have my choice between mythtv 0.19 svn including mythgame and mythtv livetv only works once, or mythtv 0.18 that lacks mythgame and mythtv works more reliably |
| [10:10:00] | metusine: | simplifies things enormously :p |
| [10:10:00] | jnc: | eh |
| [10:10:00] | jnc: | that may be. |
| [10:11:00] | jnc: | gentoo isn't a realistic option for the long term goal of making something salable |
| [10:11:00] | jnc: | short term goal is to get the stuff working |
| [10:11:00] | metusine: | salable? |
| [10:11:00] | metusine: | you gonna set up a business with myth? |
| [10:12:00] | jnc: | if an existing client requests a media center box, i'd sure like to be able to provide one |
| [10:12:00] | metusine: | fair enough |
| [10:12:00] | jnc: | some clients have the money to throw around for a media box |
| [10:12:00] | jnc: | it would be nice to have the capability to pull off a media box and sell it for several thousand dollars |
| [10:12:00] | metusine: | the trouble is doing it on a cost comparable basis with a pre made set top box |
| [10:13:00] | metusine: | i did see talk of one around that price |
| [10:13:00] | metusine: | can't remember the exact specs |
| [10:13:00] | sandos: | if you provide something that set tops doesnt, you can always charge more for it |
| [10:13:00] | metusine: | or even if they got to the stage where they were selling it |
| [10:13:00] | metusine: | but basically had a half dozen or so tuners and ooodles of diskspace |
| [10:14:00] | jnc: | ah |
| [10:14:00] | metusine: | the theory behind it was to catch all tv |
| [10:14:00] | metusine: | every thing that played got recorded and stored |
| [10:14:00] | jnc: | does commercial detection flagging work for you? |
| [10:14:00] | metusine: | nah |
| [10:14:00] | metusine: | not at all |
| [10:14:00] | jnc: | i don't seem to understand how to make that function |
| [10:15:00] | metusine: | when ever i turn it on, it seems to radomly bounce around during the adds |
| [10:15:00] | metusine: | but nothing usefull |
| [10:20:00] | jnc: | okay |
| [10:21:00] | jnc: | i'm not very impressed with the stability of mythtv |
| [10:21:00] | metusine: | mmm |
| [10:22:00] | metusine: | it's not a commercial product |
| [10:22:00] | metusine: | it cause it relies on linux running smoothly underneath it |
| [10:22:00] | metusine: | s/it/and |
| [10:23:00] | metusine: | i'd say its a long time away from being as easy to use as tivo |
| [10:23:00] | metusine: | or as stable |
| [10:25:00] | jnc: | possibly |
| [10:25:00] | jnc: | i was hoping to get it rolling on a debian box |
| [10:25:00] | jnc: | i've got it somewhat working |
| [10:26:00] | jnc: | what is really tricky is the bttv cards |
| [10:26:00] | metusine: | yeah |
| [10:26:00] | jnc: | those are teh suck |
| [10:26:00] | metusine: | i haven't played with those |
| [10:26:00] | metusine: | heh |
| [10:26:00] | metusine: | you need to go out and get a pvr250 |
| [10:26:00] | jnc: | i guess so |
| [10:26:00] | jnc: | should i buy one cheap without the remote? |
| [10:26:00] | jnc: | just the card, nothing else |
| [10:26:00] | sandos: | the 250 is very expensive in Sweden... |
| [10:27:00] | sandos: | 150 is more reasonable imo |
| [10:27:00] | jnc: | there are pvr350's selling on an auction site for $1 usd |
| [10:27:00] | sandos: | heh |
| [10:27:00] | sandos: | nice |
| [10:27:00] | jnc: | but they lack a remote |
| [10:28:00] | metusine: | make your own remote |
| [10:28:00] | jnc: | i've got two remotes, the ATI Remote Wonder VE |
| [10:28:00] | metusine: | chances are your remote doesn't have buttons for all the functions you want anyway |
| [10:28:00] | jnc: | they function acceptably with lirc |
| [10:28:00] | jnc: | right |
| [10:28:00] | metusine: | all off the pvrs are real expensive in nz |
| [10:29:00] | metusine: | if your using it with lirc |
| [10:29:00] | metusine: | it doesn't matter what capture card you use |
| [10:29:00] | metusine: | it's independant of lirc |
| [10:29:00] | jnc: | okay |
| [10:29:00] | jnc: | what to do with the ATI TV Wonder VE cards? |
| [10:30:00] | jnc: | sell 'm on the auction site? |
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| [10:31:00] | Bhaal: | jnc: you were right, works now, with the old database so didnt lose anything |
| [10:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hows it going Bhaal |
| [10:32:00] | jnc: | Bhaal: yeah, i don't know why, it just does |
| [10:33:00] | jnc: | sorry |
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| [10:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah I want to get 1 remote to knock mine down from 5 |
| [10:34:00] | jnc: | who all is using mythtv based on debian? |
| [10:37:00] | jnc: | SlicerDicer-: get a Nokia 770 and write some remote software :) |
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| [10:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | bah |
| [10:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I got 16 nokias |
| [10:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no joke lol |
| [10:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://home.comcast.net/~slicerdicer/nokia.jpg thats a few of them :) |
| [10:39:00] | ** SlicerDicer- is a cell phone nerd ** | |
| [10:39:00] | jnc: | are they all phones |
| [10:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yes |
| [10:39:00] | jnc: | the 770 is not a phone |
| [10:39:00] | jnc: | ;) |
| [10:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh well shit |
| [10:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what the hell is the 770? |
| [10:40:00] | sandos: | I want it! |
| [10:40:00] | ** SlicerDicer- notes he controled his mac with his IR on my nokia ** | |
| [10:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Q3 05 :) |
| [10:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | that thing is giant |
| [10:41:00] | sandos: | is it? not compared to any other "tablet" =) |
| [10:41:00] | jnc: | compared to my zaurus c3000, i'd sell my c3000 in a heartbeat |
| [10:43:00] | jnc: | and buy the 770 |
| [10:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | that blows that it dont have 3G on it |
| [10:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | that would rock |
| [10:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | be a reason to have 3G |
| [10:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok damn that thing is small haha |
| [10:44:00] | sandos: | I always weat a phone anyway, so no need for any radio in it.. imo |
| [10:45:00] | jnc: | the 770 has bluetooth |
| [10:45:00] | jnc: | so ... yeah |
| [10:45:00] | jnc: | why bother putting a radio in it? bluetooth for 'net access via your 3G phone |
| [10:45:00] | sandos: | yup |
| [10:47:00] | sandos: | I guess the 770 isnt really powerful enough for a mythtv frontend, right? :) |
| [10:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | jnc, I want the qtek 2020i :) |
| [10:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | tri band phone :) |
| [10:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | sandos, I am sure as hell going to try to put a frontend on the Qtek even though me and mchou discussed the cpu power :) |
| [10:48:00] | sandos: | hehe |
| [10:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=124580 ignore the microsoft part |
| [10:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | that can be rectfied real fast |
| [10:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [10:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | there is a pretty slick 3G version coming out soon |
| [10:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | more power too |
| [10:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I may just get that one |
| [10:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its the 6060 I think |
| [10:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its got 750mhz IIRC |
| [10:56:00] | jnc: | SlicerDicer-: :) |
| [10:57:00] | jnc: | i'm using a motorola phone now |
| [10:57:00] | jnc: | it gets the job done, has bluetooth |
| [11:01:00] | sandos: | me too, a e398 |
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| [11:04:00] | SlicerDicer--: | stupid internet |
| [11:06:00] | jnc: | garrrr |
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| [12:02:00] | hexbox: | im getting an error... |
| [12:02:00] | hexbox: | Could not connect to the master backend server – is it running? IP address set for it in the setup program correct? |
| [12:03:00] | metusine: | i recently upgraded to a sb live sound card, and now instead of having controls PCM, MASTER etc, I've got Analog Front, Analog Rear etc. Myth now (of course) can't find the line in and I get no sound on my recordings. |
| [12:03:00] | metusine: | anyone know how I should go about convincing mythtv to use the new card? |
| [12:10:00] | jnc: | oh |
| [12:10:00] | jnc: | good question |
| [12:10:00] | jnc: | not sure about the answer |
| [12:11:00] | hexbox: | jnc, can you help me out? |
| [12:11:00] | hexbox: | :p |
| [12:12:00] | jnc: | backend is not running |
| [12:12:00] | jnc: | fix that |
| [12:12:00] | jnc: | :) |
| [12:12:00] | jnc: | i'm off to bed |
| [12:14:00] | hexbox: | :( |
| [12:14:00] | hexbox: | c'mon |
| [12:14:00] | hexbox: | help me get it running :( |
| [12:15:00] | hexbox: | oh wait |
| [12:15:00] | hexbox: | i got it running |
| [12:15:00] | hexbox: | but i see blank screen when i hit watch tv |
| [12:15:00] | hexbox: | bah ill pick up where i left off tomm |
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| [13:15:00] | Bhaal: | jnc: Thats a weird error with mysql hey.... Still it all worked out anyway... |
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| [13:31:00] | jhoke: | Mornin' |
| [13:31:00] | laga: | re |
| [13:32:00] | jhoke: | Is there any differences between the various PVR150's out on the market? |
| [13:34:00] | jhoke: | Outpost has this one http://shop1.outpost.com/product/4290334?site . . . MAIN_RSLT_PG for 79.99 after rebate |
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| [13:49:00] | sandos: | I _think_ there are MCE and non-MCE versions |
| [13:49:00] | sandos: | afaik the MCE one has radio, no remote, and the other one has no radio but remote |
| [13:49:00] | PatrickDK: | basically, mce has normal input connections |
| [13:49:00] | sandos: | ok? |
| [13:50:00] | PatrickDK: | and none-mce has remote |
| [13:50:00] | sandos: | yeah. webshops in sweden seem to not sell the retail package though so Im not sure you get the remote even with the non-MCE version |
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| [13:59:00] | jhoke: | sorry, was afk... |
| [13:59:00] | jhoke: | thanks for the heads up... the one outpost has for 79.00 (US) has the remote... so ordering now to replace my dying 250 |
| [14:05:00] | jhoke: | anyone using the 150 with the ATRPMS packages? I currently am using the stable branch, but will need to upgrade to the Dev ATRPMs branch and wanted to know if there were any landmines :) |
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| [16:40:00] | pyrodex: | Does anyone know if the Hauppauge WinTV-PVR 150 Personal Video Recorder that outpost.com and fry's carries in store is the same thing as a normal PVR-150? |
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| [16:59:00] | sphing: | off topic: does anyone know how to capture packets in tcpdump and export them to ethereal |
| [16:59:00] | miah: | save them in pcap format |
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| [17:13:00] | Beirdo: | tcpdump -s 1500 -w blah.cap |
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| [17:13:00] | Beirdo: | aka... man tcpdump |
| [17:13:00] | MrSpiffy: | hello |
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| [17:14:00] | MrSpiffy: | I am having problems aligning the screen on some channels. I've checked around and some of the channels on my bttv card are off (shifted right) |
| [17:14:00] | MrSpiffy: | I am having problems aligning the screen on some channels. I've checked around and some of the channels on my bttv card are off (shifted right) |
| [17:14:00] | Beirdo: | you just said that |
| [17:14:00] | ** Beirdo slaps MrSpiffy with a trout ** | |
| [17:14:00] | MrSpiffy: | I thought that the crop filter would help – I set it to crop 16 pixels from the left while recording |
| [17:14:00] | Chutt: | this is what 'overscan' is for. |
| [17:14:00] | MrSpiffy: | yes CHutt |
| [17:15:00] | Beirdo: | there's not much can be done about that, it's capturing the signal as is. TVs overscan and lose part of the picture |
| [17:15:00] | Beirdo: | you can do the same, or ignore it, your choice |
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| [17:15:00] | MrSpiffy: | my problem is I cannot shift the thing far enough left – it stops moving before getting that blank area on the left off the screen |
| [17:15:00] | MrSpiffy: | maxed out |
| [17:15:00] | Beirdo: | so ignore it |
| [17:16:00] | MrSpiffy: | am I missing something? I thought the crop filter would crop off the image – it appears to just add a black border |
| [17:16:00] | Chutt: | it crops if |
| [17:16:00] | Chutt: | but you don't want to do that |
| [17:16:00] | MrSpiffy: | it doesn;t re-scale the image though – I end up with the same border |
| [17:16:00] | MrSpiffy: | hmm |
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| [17:17:00] | MrSpiffy: | btw – I have the gui lined up at 800x600 and adjusted – tv playback is 720x480 |
| [17:17:00] | MrSpiffy: | damn |
| [17:18:00] | MrSpiffy: | overscan can't move it far enough left |
| [17:18:00] | Chutt: | uh |
| [17:18:00] | Chutt: | you're obviously talking about something else |
| [17:18:00] | Chutt: | not overscan |
| [17:19:00] | pyrodex: | Does anyone know if the Hauppauge WinTV-PVR 150 Personal Video Recorder that outpost.com and fry's carries in store is the same thing as a normal PVR-150? |
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| [17:19:00] | MrSpiffy: | I've tried to compensate for the recording on certain channels being off to the right using overscan. no luck there. |
| [17:19:00] | Chutt: | what the hell do you mean 'using overscan'? |
| [17:19:00] | MrSpiffy: | mythtv's tv playabck overscan options |
| [17:19:00] | MrSpiffy: | x and y offset |
| [17:19:00] | Chutt: | those are 'overscan compensation' |
| [17:20:00] | Chutt: | and not meant for what you're trying to do |
| [17:20:00] | MrSpiffy: | well that explain why it doesn;t work ;) |
| [17:20:00] | Chutt: | all you have to do is display your video at full screen |
| [17:20:00] | MrSpiffy: | any suggestions? |
| [17:20:00] | Chutt: | and let the tv's natural overscan work |
| [17:20:00] | MrSpiffy: | it is displayed at full screen at 720x480 |
| [17:20:00] | MrSpiffy: | tv seems to be falling short in that department then |
| [17:20:00] | Chutt: | no, it's not |
| [17:21:00] | Chutt: | you do _not_ have it displayed full-screen |
| [17:21:00] | Chutt: | if you're bitching about this |
| [17:21:00] | Chutt: | i don't know why i bother, you don't listen |
| [17:21:00] | MrSpiffy: | dude |
| [17:22:00] | MrSpiffy: | I have set myth to use 720x480 for playback – not in a window. aspect set to 4/3 |
| [17:22:00] | MrSpiffy: | is this not fullscreen? If not, then what is the setting for full screen? |
| [17:22:00] | Chutt: | it's not fullscreen if you have x running at 800x600 |
| [17:23:00] | MrSpiffy: | x has a mode for 720x480 – myth is using it as I can see the display re-size while going between the gui and playback |
| [17:24:00] | Chutt: | and what is the overscan value in the driver when that mode is selected? |
| [17:24:00] | MrSpiffy: | default 720x80 and everything lese is over scanned |
| [17:24:00] | Chutt: | sure sounds like it's not |
| [17:24:00] | MrSpiffy: | hmm |
| [17:25:00] | MrSpiffy: | one sec – let me check the modes available |
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| [17:26:00] | MrSpiffy: | Option "TVVScan" "over" is set |
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| [17:52:00] | sphing: | Beirdo: you here? |
| [17:53:00] | ** laga slaps sphing with a frozen trout ** | |
| [17:53:00] | laga: | well, at least it feels like he was here |
| [17:53:00] | sphing: | haha... fair enough |
| [17:53:00] | sphing: | laga you dont have an asterisk server do you? |
| [17:54:00] | laga: | nope, sorry |
| [17:56:00] | sphing: | Chutt: you still around |
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| [18:38:00] | mchou: | xris: you there? |
| [18:39:00] | xris: | no |
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| [18:42:00] | BaZiL: | help .. for some odd freakin reason my mythfilldatabase fucked up since friday .. i get NO data at all .. can there be some changes in tv_grab_se ? |
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| [18:54:00] | mrtvfuenc: | hi all, anyone has the terratec USB XS hybrid tuner running with mythtv ? |
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| [18:59:00] | hexbox: | i'm getting a black screen when i try to watch TV and it says Could not connect to the master backend server – is it running? IP address set for it in the setup program correct? |
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| [19:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | hexbox: then have you checked what it asks you to check ? |
| [19:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | :) |
| [19:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | Looks like a pretty self explainitory error message |
| [19:05:00] | Cardoe: | GreyFoxx: you getting 500's from DataDirect? |
| [19:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cardoe: Not as of 3.5 hours ago when I my last update ran |
| [19:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | I just ran another update and it's running fine |
| [19:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | Is your subscription expired by chance ? |
| [19:10:00] | Cardoe: | could be |
| [19:11:00] | Cardoe: | GreyFoxx: yep. yesterday. |
| [19:11:00] | Cardoe: | heh. stupid me |
| [19:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | xris: I'm not sure if you are aware or not but it looks like another nuvexport problem. None of my recordings that occured past the filename commit on tuesday show up in nuvexport for me to pick to transcode |
| [19:12:00] | xris: | that's because the default filename format is different |
| [19:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cardoe: Hehe lots of people have gotten bit by that. It seems they no longer email warnings |
| [19:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | xris: figured it was something like that |
| [19:12:00] | xris: | my filename commit was only partial |
| [19:12:00] | Cardoe: | yeah. that's what I was waiting for. |
| [19:13:00] | xris: | want to make it smart and look the filenames up in the database now... but that'd mean that .18 users would no longer have a working nuvexport. |
| [19:13:00] | hexbox: | GreyFoxx: 127.0.0.1 right? |
| [19:13:00] | xris: | so I think I'd need to do a version bump |
| [19:13:00] | hexbox: | its only one machine |
| [19:13:00] | hexbox: | the frontend and backend would be on the same machine |
| [19:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | hexbox: If that's what you configured it to be |
| [19:14:00] | Cardoe: | xris: make a .19 branch |
| [19:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | that is the default |
| [19:14:00] | Cardoe: | ;) |
| [19:14:00] | hexbox: | well thats what i configured it to be. |
| [19:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | hex then answer the other question it asked you |
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| [19:14:00] | hexbox: | what was it? |
| [19:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | "is it running?" |
| [19:15:00] | hexbox: | which one |
| [19:15:00] | hexbox: | the backend? |
| [19:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [19:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythfrontend can't connect to it if it's not running |
| [19:15:00] | xris: | Cardoe: yeah. I'm too lazy to maintain 2 branches. |
| [19:15:00] | hexbox: | GreyFox: please look at this http://pastebin.ca/23362 |
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| [19:16:00] | hexbox: | and yes, there is /video/recordings |
| [19:16:00] | hexbox: | :p |
| [19:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | hexbox: Well have you done what that error told you to verify ? |
| [19:18:00] | hexbox: | it exists. |
| [19:18:00] | hexbox: | i don't know how to verify its writable by the user :s |
| [19:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | AND |
| [19:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | ok |
| [19:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | are you planning to always run it as the mythtv user ? |
| [19:19:00] | hexbox: | yes |
| [19:19:00] | hexbox: | mythtv user is strictly for mythtv |
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| [19:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | what group is the user mythtv a member of ? |
| [19:19:00] | hexbox: | i guess a regular user? |
| [19:19:00] | hexbox: | theres root and then theres mythtv |
| [19:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | and what group is that ? |
| [19:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | every distro handles user groups differeently :) |
| [19:20:00] | hexbox: | group name: mythtv |
| [19:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | ok |
| [19:20:00] | hexbox: | group members: mythtv |
| [19:20:00] | hexbox: | :p |
| [19:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | chown mythtv:mythtv /video/recordings |
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| [19:21:00] | hexbox: | ok |
| [19:21:00] | hexbox: | done. |
| [19:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | try starting the backend again |
| [19:21:00] | hexbox: | same thing |
| [19:22:00] | hexbox: | i was supposed to do that chown using root (su) right? |
| [19:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | of course |
| [19:22:00] | hexbox: | well thats what i did :s |
| [19:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | try chown -R mythtv:mythtv /video/recordings |
| [19:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | maybe that nfslock file is already there and owned by root |
| [19:23:00] | hexbox: | this is the last line so far |
| [19:23:00] | hexbox: | 2005-09–19 17:23:08.115 New DB connection, total: 4 |
| [19:23:00] | hexbox: | i just tried running mythbackend again |
| [19:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sounds like it started then |
| [19:23:00] | hexbox: | now? |
| [19:23:00] | hexbox: | mythfrontend in another term window? |
| [19:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [19:24:00] | hexbox: | ok instead of the error message when i hit watch tv |
| [19:24:00] | hexbox: | im just getting a black screen |
| [19:24:00] | hexbox: | now it just dropped me back to the menu |
| [19:24:00] | hexbox: | for mythtv |
| [19:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | then look at both backend and frontend and deal with the next problem |
| [19:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | maybe it couldn't access the video capture devices |
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| [19:25:00] | sputnik: | mornin |
| [19:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | Brandon: I can't find that message. |
| [19:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | oops |
| [19:27:00] | hexbox: | greyfoxx: this is what the backend is throwing out when i try to "Watch TV" |
| [19:27:00] | hexbox: | http://pastebin.ca/23363 |
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| [19:27:00] | hexbox: | and the frontend http://pastebin.ca/23364 |
| [19:28:00] | snerfu: | I am looking for information on how to control a digital cable box via mythtv through the serial port. I specifically have a motorola DCT 2244, but any info on that subject will do. |
| [19:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | hexbox: It looks like you need to make sure that other directory exists and is writable as well |
| [19:33:00] | hexbox: | how would i do that |
| [19:33:00] | hexbox: | i've been in /video/recordings in term window before |
| [19:33:00] | hexbox: | it exists |
| [19:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | uhhhh |
| [19:33:00] | hexbox: | and theres one file in /video |
| [19:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | Are you actually READING the message ? |
| [19:33:00] | hexbox: | yes |
| [19:33:00] | hexbox: | I am |
| [19:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | /video/buffer//ringbuf1.nuv: No such file or directory |
| [19:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | notice "video/BUFFER/" |
| [19:34:00] | hexbox: | buffer is there as well |
| [19:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | and writable ? |
| [19:34:00] | hexbox: | doesn't look like it? |
| [19:34:00] | hexbox: | permission denied. |
| [19:34:00] | hexbox: | i tried copying a useless text file to it |
| [19:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | Then change it's owner ships as well to the same as the last one |
| [19:35:00] | jonK: | |
| [19:35:00] | hexbox: | can't i just change the entire /video partition ownership instead of just the buffer folder |
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| [19:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | hexbox: Sure you can, and the -R makes it recurse down into every file and subdirectory |
| [19:36:00] | hexbox: | ok done. |
| [19:36:00] | hexbox: | re run backend and frontend? |
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| [19:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | yu |
| [19:37:00] | hexbox: | it says at the top 1: S-VIDEO then the time on the other side |
| [19:37:00] | hexbox: | it just disappeared |
| [19:37:00] | hexbox: | blank screen. |
| [19:38:00] | hexbox: | doesn't seem like theres any errors on the backend and frontend |
| [19:39:00] | hexbox: | i guess i can type in channels and my listings show up |
| [19:39:00] | hexbox: | but still black screen |
| [19:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | hexbox: Are you using a tuner or s-video in for the cable ? |
| [19:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | If it's a coax cable plugged into the tuner then maybe you have the inputs configured incorrectly |
| [19:47:00] | hexbox: | tuner |
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| [19:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | well if s-video is showing up then you must have configfured the svideo input as your video source instead of the tuner |
| [19:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | so it's trying to capture video from the wrong input |
| [19:53:00] | hexbox: | GreyFoxx: its working |
| [19:53:00] | hexbox: | but the time is WAY OFF |
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| [19:54:00] | hexbox: | hold on |
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| [19:55:00] | BaZiL: | what do i type to get the channelinfo updated ???? |
| [19:55:00] | BaZiL: | mythfilldatabase ? |
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| [20:04:00] | BaZiL: | could someone PLEASE answer me ? |
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| [20:09:00] | laga: | BaZiL: mythfilldatabase . |
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| [20:10:00] | BaZiL: | ya .. buth when i run that it says data is already present |
| [20:10:00] | snerfu: | Anyone know what command I need to send via serial to the digital cable STB to get it to change channel? |
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| [20:12:00] | malverian[work]: | Hey guys, does the HD-3000 work work with normal digital cable, or just with HDTV? |
| [20:12:00] | malverian[work]: | I kinda want to buy one for when I get HDTV in the future, but not if it won't work with my current standard cable television. |
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| [20:19:00] | snerfu: | if anyone is has a question like mine, I found some info here: http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-dev/2003-June/010644.html |
| [20:27:00] | snerfu: | Hm there is also something in contrib |
| [20:31:00] | BaZiL: | anyone have tv_grab_swedb ? |
| [20:31:00] | BaZiL: | i need it |
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| [20:33:00] | laga: | BaZiL: umm, xmltv? |
| [20:33:00] | BaZiL: | ya |
| [20:34:00] | BaZiL: | cant seem to find that file |
| [20:34:00] | BaZiL: | and i dont get my channels updated nomore |
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| [20:43:00] | ** xris grumbles about a lack of good minion candidates ** | |
| [20:46:00] | Krazylegz: | What happened to all of them? |
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| [20:48:00] | malverian[work]: | Can someone recommend a TV tuner card that works well with Linux (non-hdtv) ? |
| [20:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | the pvr 250/150's are the favourites for analog cable |
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| [20:51:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: got other jobs |
| [20:52:00] | xris: | or wanted more money than we could offer |
| [20:52:00] | xris: | GreyFoxx: and for satellite for those in the US who can't just use dvb |
| [20:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | Very true, using and external tuner/receiver |
| [20:53:00] | xris: | and svideo, yup. |
| [20:54:00] | ** GreyFoxx looks over a used switch before he wipes it and updates the firmware ** | |
| [20:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | always interesting to lookup the old IPs and see who use to use it :) |
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| [20:55:00] | xris: | heh |
| [20:55:00] | Beirdo: | I fuckin hate Mondays |
| [20:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | I agree |
| [20:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | You do hate mondays |
| [20:56:00] | xris: | I don't mind mondays. |
| [20:56:00] | xris: | my wife's ibook was delivered, and a bunch of gardening stuff for me. |
| [20:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | I however hate everyday that I am at my job. Regardless of the day of the week |
| [20:56:00] | xris: | :( |
| [20:57:00] | ** laga agrees with beirdo ** | |
| [20:58:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:58:00] | Beirdo: | I just wanna go back to PR |
| [20:58:00] | Beirdo: | fuck this work nonsense |
| [21:01:00] | mchou: | hey xris, need a favor |
| [21:02:00] | xris: | ? |
| [21:04:00] | umami: | tv_grab_uk_rt is broken |
| [21:04:00] | umami: | rt removed their feed |
| [21:04:00] | umami: | does anyone here know why? |
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| [21:16:00] | ** mocker buys a game controller of newegg for mythgame. ** | |
| [21:17:00] | ** Beirdo listens to a Goon Show to relax ** | |
| [21:17:00] | Beirdo: | BBC7 rules |
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| [21:35:00] | sputnik: | are there any issues with running mythtv on a 64 bit amd? |
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| [21:36:00] | timekllr: | i dunno about a dedicated box, but I have issues on my amd64 laptop |
| [21:36:00] | sputnik: | what happens? |
| [21:37:00] | timekllr: | specifically, when i run it in window mode, it doesn't draw right |
| [21:37:00] | sputnik: | hm, that sounds video card related |
| [21:37:00] | timekllr: | mythfrontend runs, and has focus, but nothing appear – if I hit the hot keys to maximaize, the window shows up |
| [21:38:00] | timekllr: | but if I install mythtv in my chrooted 32 bit env. it runs fine |
| [21:38:00] | sputnik: | oh, how interesting |
| [21:38:00] | timekllr: | yeah |
| [21:38:00] | timekllr: | so i just run it in 32 bit env. now |
| [21:38:00] | sputnik: | so my best bet for an easy mythtv box is a 32 bit system |
| [21:39:00] | sputnik: | p4 is best, i take it? |
| [21:39:00] | timekllr: | that's what most of my boxen are |
| [21:39:00] | timekllr: | 3 out of 4 i think |
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| [21:42:00] | sputnik: | the new celerons are fast enough to keep me happy, right? |
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| [21:58:00] | pmowry: | Anyone pointing NTP to us.pool.ntp.org? My system grabbed a date of 1926 and mythtv was not happy. I endedup exporting my recordings, dropping the database and starting over. |
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| [22:47:00] | gunerh: | hullo theee |
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| [22:48:00] | gunerh: | i am planning to design a 4 PVR cards suite to record TV video and sound |
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| [22:48:00] | gunerh: | roughly speaking .. i am at the first step .. which distroý is suitable for a 24/7 applciation |
| [22:49:00] | carden: | has anyone tried setting up a MythTV machine as a router as well? and how well does it perform? |
| [22:50:00] | Juski: | gunerh: just about any linux will do for running 24/7 |
| [22:50:00] | gunerh: | someguys offered me gentoo |
| [22:51:00] | Juski: | I run on gentoo... does the job |
| [22:51:00] | Beirdo: | if you are up to learning gentoo |
| [22:51:00] | carden: | I figured with cable internet why not have the home network routing machine aslo be tivo type of box. I am just worried that I might be overloading the little ITX. |
| [22:51:00] | Beirdo: | gentoo is higher maintenance than some |
| [22:52:00] | Juski: | never fallen over.. had less than 10 reboots (powercuts, fan replacements...) |
| [22:52:00] | xris: | Beirdo: I think it's more "setup" issues than "maintenance" |
| [22:52:00] | Beirdo: | and how many compiles |
| [22:52:00] | Beirdo: | sorry, xris has it right |
| [22:52:00] | Beirdo: | it's the setup and the constant compiling for upgrades |
| [22:52:00] | carden: | gentoo can be configured to use binaries only you dont HAVE to compile everything |
| [22:52:00] | Juski: | Beirdo: use the package CDs before you sync portage and it shaves ooo a good 2 days off the install lol |
| [22:52:00] | gunerh: | i am planning to use Hauppage PVR 250 which is the only one availabel on the market .. |
| [22:52:00] | Beirdo: | most don't though |
| [22:53:00] | gunerh: | do you thing it will work properly for recording audio and video at the same time |
| [22:53:00] | xris: | gunerh: recording audio from where? |
| [22:53:00] | Juski: | a friend of mine has gone with ubunto... from blank disc to desktop in 30 mins... then compiled mythtv... up & running in less than 2 hours |
| [22:53:00] | gunerh: | i will have 4 cards in a box |
| [22:53:00] | gunerh: | 4 differnet tv cahnnels |
| [22:54:00] | Juski: | hmmm .. video & audio at about 8mb/sec max... don't think that'd tax many systems |
| [22:54:00] | gunerh: | will it be possible to have audio recorded from each PVR cards |
| [22:54:00] | Beirdo: | as long as your DMA controller onboard ain't shite, you'll be fine |
| [22:54:00] | Juski: | yes, gunerh.. the PVR cards have their own audio inputs, and encode the audio into the stream at the same time as the video |
| [22:55:00] | Beirdo: | PVR-250 always records the audio with the video for you |
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| [22:56:00] | gunerh: | ubuntu .. i hve its installation cd. |
| [22:56:00] | gunerh: | i can try with that one also.. |
| [22:56:00] | foobum: | is anyone using a pvr350 on an nforce4 board? |
| [22:56:00] | gunerh: | do you thinkl it wil much better to install a gentoo box from scrartch for a better performance |
| [22:57:00] | xris: | gunerh: no better performance |
| [22:57:00] | xris: | and don't install gentoo if you're new to linux (dunno if you are or not — it's just a suggestion) |
| [22:57:00] | ** Juski can't see the point in compiling everything from scratch to shave off a few ms ** | |
| [22:58:00] | Beirdo: | Juski: then why use gentoo at all? |
| [22:58:00] | gunerh: | actually i am fond of freebsd |
| [22:58:00] | pmowry: | gunerth: everything is broadcast TV? or do you need to control 4 cable boxes too? |
| [22:58:00] | Beirdo: | use ubuntu which is package-based to start with |
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| [22:58:00] | Juski: | well, I'm on gentoo now, and it ain't broke |
| [22:58:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:58:00] | xris: | gunerh: in that case, maybe you'd like gentoo... it tends to act more like bsd than linux |
| [22:59:00] | Beirdo: | gunerh: gentoo's likely the closest you'll find to freeBSD |
| [22:59:00] | Beirdo: | they stole the ports system to create portage |
| [22:59:00] | Juski: | might try ubuntu for my desktop machine... if I can find a video editor to rival Sony Vegas |
| [22:59:00] | Krazylegz: | I actually prefer Portage. KnoppMyth is making me like packages again... |
| [22:59:00] | gunerh: | dd < /dev/video > aaa.mpg ( sound will be in it ? ) |
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| [23:00:00] | Beirdo: | no, because that's a syntax error |
| [23:00:00] | gunerh: | or a separate file |
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| [23:00:00] | Beirdo: | it will be ONE file with both audio and video anyways (once you do the right commandline) |
| [23:00:00] | gunerh: | in case of right syntax.. will audio and video will e burried in the same file |
| [23:00:00] | Beirdo: | it makes an MPEG2-PS stream |
| [23:02:00] | foobum: | my pvr350 /encoder/ works fine.. but the decoder produces jumpy video and just static for sound – anyone have any ideas before I bin it? |
| [23:02:00] | pmowry: | I forget the codec name but Audio is embedded, but not ready to be burned to DVD. |
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| [23:03:00] | gunerh: | is there any other cases for two different files for video and audio .. |
| [23:03:00] | foobum: | i thought it might be the card.. but it's not (tried a different one) |
| [23:04:00] | pmowry: | foobum: tv-out is jumpy of the PVR-350 is jumpy just in mythtv or also the command line using something like dd if=/dev/video0 of=dev/video16 bs=64k ? |
| [23:04:00] | xris: | gunerh: no |
| [23:04:00] | xris: | not from a pvr-x50 |
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| [23:04:00] | foobum: | pmowry: on the command line too :( |
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| [23:05:00] | turdface: | just thought i would say hello |
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| [23:05:00] | foobum: | pmowry: mplayer ... /dev/video0 looks and sounds fine on the 350 framebuffer |
| [23:05:00] | gunerh: | do you think it would be any difficulty make a four PVR cards recording , up and run .. is there any real success examples to follow through |
| [23:06:00] | foobum: | but dd'ing from video0 to video16 produces jumpiness and static |
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| [23:06:00] | dcstimm: | is 18.1 out ? |
| [23:06:00] | dcstimm: | err 2 |
| [23:07:00] | foobum: | pmowry: tried different pci slots, disabling almost everything, forcing irq, etc |
| [23:07:00] | pmowry: | That's not nice. anytime I had a DMA issue, it was all or nothing. Moving to a different slot on my old system fixed it. I'm using a 0.2.0 release of ivtv. I think the latest 3.0 versions break mythtv, but that's not your problem.... |
| [23:08:00] | dcstimm: | pmowry, and if that doesnt work, try taking a flat head screwdriver and sticking it in side the pci slot to spread it out a bit, that always helps for me |
| [23:08:00] | foobum: | pmowry: yeah.. in fact.. the same happens in windows so it's almost certainly hardware |
| [23:09:00] | pmowry: | dcstimm: what? my sarcasim meter (and spellcheck) is broken so not sure how to take that one. |
| [23:10:00] | dcstimm: | pmowry, well just make sure the computer is off when you do it |
| [23:10:00] | pmowry: | =) |
| [23:10:00] | dcstimm: | heh |
| [23:10:00] | foobum: | hmm.. maybe not.. any /good/ ideas? :) |
| [23:11:00] | pmowry: | As for 18.2, I've not been around lately to hear about an 18.2 or .19 release timeframe. |
| [23:11:00] | foobum: | or is anyone succesfully using a 350 on an nforce4 board? |
| [23:12:00] | pmowry: | Have you tried the dd stuff without X loaded? just for the hell of it? |
| [23:12:00] | foobum: | hmm.. don't think i have tried that |
| [23:12:00] | foobum: | the fact that i get the same symptoms in windows suggests it isn't fb related tho |
| [23:13:00] | pmowry: | I'd say hardware except you already changed cards. |
| [23:13:00] | foobum: | yeah.. i'm unlucky but not quite /that/ unlucky |
| [23:13:00] | foobum: | i find it hard to understand how whatever it is only affects the decoder |
| [23:13:00] | foobum: | it encodes just fine |
| [23:15:00] | pmowry: | I did not think windows used an overlay. // Same here. Maybe you can try extracting the firmware for the card again. Perhapes the decoder portion was corrupt? Just grasping at straws here. |
| [23:15:00] | pmowry: | Well no, since windows would load it straight from the source. |
| [23:16:00] | foobum: | yeah.. i'm pretty sure i've tried different versions of the firmware on linux too :( |
| [23:17:00] | pmowry: | For me it was always an all or nothing, excecpt for issues with the ivtv-fb. but decoding always worked, overlays would cause trouble. |
| [23:18:00] | dcstimm: | I have mythtv running on a dual xeon 3ghz system with 1gb of 3200 ram, a 5600 geforcefx 256mb card, and 10,000k rpm scsi drives, with a Haupaugge 250 card and I am getting sluggish behavior out of mythtv |
| [23:18:00] | foobum: | it'd be interested to know if anyone has one working on an nforce4 board |
| [23:18:00] | foobum: | i can't see what else it could be |
| [23:19:00] | dcstimm: | like if its paused for a while lets say 20 min and I fast forward it after resuming it will pause for like 20 seconds |
| [23:19:00] | foobum: | and don't really understand how the chipset could fuck up the decoder (and only the decoder) |
| [23:19:00] | dcstimm: | very annoying, cheap cable company pvrs dont even do this |
| [23:19:00] | Krazylegz: | dcstimm: Is this with recordings, or LiveTV? |
| [23:19:00] | dcstimm: | foobum, nforce4 chipsets are kinda flacky |
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| [23:20:00] | dcstimm: | Krazylegz, livetv |
| [23:20:00] | Krazylegz: | dcstimm: Which filesystem are you using for your cache partition? |
| [23:20:00] | dcstimm: | Krazylegz, i am using ext3 |
| [23:20:00] | Krazylegz: | dcstimm: Try ext2. |
| [23:20:00] | dcstimm: | /dev/hda3 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime) |
| [23:20:00] | dcstimm: | none on /dev type devfs (rw) |
| [23:20:00] | dcstimm: | none on /proc type proc (rw) |
| [23:20:00] | dcstimm: | none on /sys type sysfs (rw) |
| [23:20:00] | dcstimm: | none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw) |
| [23:20:00] | Krazylegz: | I had similar issues. |
| [23:20:00] | dcstimm: | /dev/hda2 on /mnt/store type ext3 (rw,noatime) |
| [23:20:00] | dcstimm: | none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) |
| [23:20:00] | dcstimm: | sorry |
| [23:21:00] | Beirdo: | dcstimm: nforce4 flaky?! bullshit |
| [23:21:00] | dcstimm: | /mnt/store is the one I record to |
| [23:21:00] | dcstimm: | Beirdo, in linux |
| [23:21:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [23:21:00] | Krazylegz: | dcstimm: You record to the same partition as you use as your LiveTV cache? |
| [23:21:00] | dcstimm: | binary drivers are flacky |
| [23:21:00] | foobum: | using a nforce4 + pvr card by any change beirdo? |
| [23:21:00] | Beirdo: | I have nforce3, rock solid. know several with nforce4, solid |
| [23:21:00] | dcstimm: | Krazylegz, I guess |
| [23:21:00] | foobum: | using the mainline drivers for everything |
| [23:21:00] | foobum: | (cept ivtv obviously) |
| [23:22:00] | Krazylegz: | dcstimm: That might be a problem. Everything cleared up for me once I switched to ext2. |
| [23:22:00] | dcstimm: | not a big fan of amd + nforce |
| [23:22:00] | dcstimm: | Krazylegz, Krazy! ;) |
| [23:22:00] | Beirdo: | dcstimm: rock solid |
| [23:22:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [23:22:00] | dcstimm: | Krazylegz, is it possible to turn off ext3 with out reformating the partition? |
| [23:23:00] | dcstimm: | Beirdo, well I know they can be rock solid but I hear alot more issues with amd + nforce than intel with intel |
| [23:24:00] | dcstimm: | its like idiots that use intel with sis or intel with via, what are they thinking!? |
| [23:24:00] | Ryushin: | dcstimm: Mount it ext2. |
| [23:24:00] | dcstimm: | Ryushin, yeah I just thought of that |
| [23:24:00] | Ryushin: | Or do you want to convert it to a different file system such as reiser. |
| [23:25:00] | dcstimm: | Ryushin, I dont feel like doing that at this moment |
| [23:25:00] | dcstimm: | Ryushin, to much stuff on that partition |
| [23:25:00] | Ryushin: | Is the journalling slowing things down to much? |
| [23:25:00] | dcstimm: | Seems like it |
| [23:26:00] | Ryushin: | Are you doing HD? |
| [23:26:00] | dcstimm: | no |
| [23:26:00] | dcstimm: | 250 card |
| [23:26:00] | Ryushin: | I have a 350 card, and it's just ticking over when it writes to the drive. |
| [23:26:00] | Ryushin: | My HD-3000 card makes it work a bit harder. |
| [23:26:00] | dcstimm: | heh |
| [23:27:00] | Ryushin: | Have you used hdparm to optimize your drive yet? |
| [23:27:00] | dcstimm: | if I had a crappy system I wouldnt be worring but I have a dual xeon 3ghz machine. maxed out with goodies, and its still slow |
| [23:27:00] | dcstimm: | Ryushin, of course |
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| [23:27:00] | Ryushin: | How big of a drive are you using and whole old of a IDE chipset is it? |
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| [23:27:00] | dcstimm: | Ryushin, i like hdparm -d1 -c1 -X69 /dev/hda |
| [23:28:00] | Ryushin: | Should be fine. |
| [23:28:00] | dcstimm: | ich4 chipset |
| [23:28:00] | dcstimm: | not old |
| [23:28:00] | Ryushin: | How many goodies? |
| [23:28:00] | dcstimm: | this drive is a raptor wd drive |
| [23:29:00] | dcstimm: | I have other scsi drives I have tried and its the same speed |
| [23:29:00] | Ryushin: | One pvr-250 card? Anything else that is disk intensive? |
| [23:29:00] | dcstimm: | nooe |
| [23:29:00] | dcstimm: | nope |
| [23:29:00] | dcstimm: | just one card |
| [23:29:00] | dcstimm: | I own two, but for trouble shooting I only have one installed |
| [23:29:00] | Ryushin: | Then you should have absolutely no problems whatsoever. |
| [23:29:00] | Ryushin: | What part is slow? |
| [23:30:00] | dcstimm: | well if livetv is paused for like 20 min, then I resume it, and try to fast forward it seems like it freezes for like 20 seconds and then it will be back to normal |
| [23:30:00] | Ryushin: | Which ivtv drivers are you using? |
| [23:31:00] | dcstimm: | let me check |
| [23:32:00] | dcstimm: | 0.2.0_rc3 |
| [23:32:00] | dcstimm: | I dont really want to mess with ivtv again |
| [23:32:00] | Ryushin: | Well, you might want to try 0.3.9 which just came out a couple of days ago. |
| [23:32:00] | dcstimm: | heh |
| [23:33:00] | dcstimm: | seems like a big number gap, I would perfer an gentoo ebuild if possible |
| [23:33:00] | Ryushin: | 0.2.0 was the stable version, but it's pretty old now. |
| [23:33:00] | dcstimm: | Ryushin, understandable |
| [23:33:00] | dcstimm: | it works well though |
| [23:33:00] | Ryushin: | 0.3.9 is the development version. |
| [23:33:00] | dcstimm: | except for my issue |
| [23:33:00] | Ryushin: | Except for your problem. :) |
| [23:33:00] | Ryushin: | You can always go back. Can't hurt to try it. It'll only take about 1 minute to compile it on your system. :) |
| [23:34:00] | dcstimm: | anyone know if there is an ebuild for it? |
| [23:34:00] | Ryushin: | Not I, I'm a debian user. :) |
| [23:34:00] | dcstimm: | its much cleaner than hand compiling |
| [23:34:00] | dcstimm: | Ryushin, pussy;) |
| [23:34:00] | dcstimm: | heh |
| [23:34:00] | dcstimm: | j/k |
| [23:34:00] | Ryushin: | Does gentoo have checkinstall? |
| [23:34:00] | dcstimm: | Ryushin, ubuntu? |
| [23:34:00] | Ryushin: | sid. |
| [23:35:00] | dcstimm: | yeah kinda |
| [23:35:00] | pmowry: | The release notes for a recent relase (0.3.8?) said it removed some i2c calls that would break mythtv until it was updated. |
| [23:35:00] | Ryushin: | At least with checkinstall, you can remove it simply. |
| [23:35:00] | dcstimm: | I can install a rpm checkinstall creates |
| [23:35:00] | dcstimm: | pmowry, thanks for the news |
| [23:36:00] | Ryushin: | I know, I read that too. but it works fine for me. But I'm also running myths svn. |
| [23:36:00] | dcstimm: | Ryushin, well check install creates an installable rpm or tgz file from the source |
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| [23:36:00] | dcstimm: | Ryushin, i am using mythtv 0.18 |
| [23:36:00] | Ryushin: | Yea. |
| [23:36:00] | Krazylegz: | dcstimm: Not that I know of. However, I would create a seperate /cache partition, like I said. |
| [23:36:00] | dcstimm: | Ryushin, I am to scared to try svn, last time I tried it it fucked up my database |
| [23:37:00] | Ryushin: | Just do a ./configure (thought I don't think ivtv needs that), make, checkinstall -R (I use -D) make install and it builds the package for you. |
| [23:37:00] | dcstimm: | Krazylegz, how do I do that? |
| [23:37:00] | Ryushin: | Who's the pussy now. LOL |
| [23:37:00] | dcstimm: | Ryushin, well when I have to clean my database by hand, that is not fun |
| [23:37:00] | Ryushin: | Do a mysql dump before you upgrade it. |
| [23:38:00] | dcstimm: | Ryushin, true |
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| [23:38:00] | Ryushin: | Hell, I automated my system to do a sql dump every night and keeps 21 days worth, just in case. |
| [23:38:00] | Krazylegz: | dcstimm: If you've already partitioned all of your hard drive space, then you would have to adjust the partitions with something like FIPS. |
| [23:38:00] | pmowry: | Oh, I noticed svn gives PVR files an mpg extension now. |
| [23:38:00] | dcstimm: | Krazylegz, well I will give it a try |
| [23:39:00] | dcstimm: | pmowry, it doesnt use nuv? |
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| [23:39:00] | dcstimm: | pmowry, which is good because that nuv file is really just a mpg |
| [23:39:00] | Krazylegz: | No, svn now uses .mpg . |
| [23:39:00] | dcstimm: | cool |
| [23:39:00] | pmowry: | I updated to latest SVN this weekend. All recordings after that were .mpg with the filename only having the start time |
| [23:39:00] | dcstimm: | Krazylegz, what is writing to the /cache partition? |
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| [23:40:00] | Krazylegz: | dcstimm: The LiveTV buffer. |
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| [23:40:00] | dcstimm: | Krazylegz, like the ringbuf9.nuv file? |
| [23:41:00] | Krazylegz: | Right. |
| [23:41:00] | dcstimm: | well it kinda has its own partition |
| [23:41:00] | Krazylegz: | Maybe you could also convert your / to ext2, but I wouldn't recommend that since you'd lose journaling. |
| [23:41:00] | Krazylegz: | It does? |
| [23:41:00] | Krazylegz: | Paste the output from mount -l into pastebin. |
| [23:41:00] | dcstimm: | Krazylegz, because nothing else is on that partition, no recordings or anything else |
| [23:43:00] | Krazylegz: | It didn't look like you had a partition for your ringbuffer before. |
| [23:44:00] | dcstimm: | i dont |
| [23:44:00] | dcstimm: | but even when there is nothing on that partition its still slow |
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| [23:49:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, the filesystem is still ext3, right? |
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| [23:55:00] | dcstimm: | sorry yeah |
| [23:55:00] | dcstimm: | ill try to re mount it |
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| [23:55:00] | dcstimm: | brb |
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