| Saturday, September 17th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | Bio: | I want it to go to PLUGIN mythvideo and then automatically select LISTING from there. |
| [00:01:00] | Bio: | can actions be queued? |
| [00:01:00] | Bio: | like <action>PLUGIN mythvideo;LISTING</action> |
| [00:02:00] | juski: | Bio: on my main menu it's called 'media library' – and that's where mythvideo & mythmusic live |
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| [00:03:00] | Majn00n: | question: if you have like comcast cable and buy a PVR card do u still need the comcast cable box or will the card do the job as well? |
| [00:04:00] | Bio: | You might need an IRBlaster |
| [00:04:00] | juski: | depends on the box, Majn00n |
| [00:04:00] | juski: | i.e. whether or not it does any decryption etc |
| [00:05:00] | MrSpiffy: | juski, gues what – it's the TV |
| [00:05:00] | juski: | its the TV?! |
| [00:05:00] | juski: | heheh |
| [00:05:00] | MrSpiffy: | yep |
| [00:05:00] | Majn00n: | well I have directv so I need the receiver anyway but I was just curious if anyone who is using comast can do without the comcast box |
| [00:05:00] | juski: | of all the things... |
| [00:05:00] | MrSpiffy: | I tried it upstairs and it works just like yours |
| [00:05:00] | MrSpiffy: | so I tried the cable from uptstairs down here – same reult |
| [00:05:00] | MrSpiffy: | its the TV |
| [00:06:00] | MrSpiffy: | the guy at via said to try running the bios at 640x480 |
| [00:06:00] | MrSpiffy: | kind of a last ditch guess |
| [00:06:00] | juski: | I had the EPIA board in work a while ago (showing off)... and the monitors there autoselect... they took a while to lock on the video standard |
| [00:06:00] | MrSpiffy: | hmm |
| [00:06:00] | MrSpiffy: | veddy interesting |
| [00:06:00] | MrSpiffy: | bus schtupid |
| [00:07:00] | MrSpiffy: | it's an old jvc tv |
| [00:07:00] | MrSpiffy: | late 80s I think |
| [00:07:00] | MrSpiffy: | it flashes twice then nada til the driver load |
| [00:07:00] | MrSpiffy: | very odd |
| [00:07:00] | juski: | must be some odd timing issue with the vid. signal then |
| [00:07:00] | juski: | maybe it's not 'by the book' NTSC |
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| [00:08:00] | MrSpiffy: | hmmmm |
| [00:08:00] | MrSpiffy: | veddy interesting |
| [00:10:00] | MrSpiffy: | but schtupid |
| [00:10:00] | juski: | so, Majn00n – depends what method the cableco are using to send the TV down the cable |
| [00:11:00] | ** MrSpiffy dislikes cable boxes ** | |
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| [00:11:00] | juski: | if it's just plain ole analogue, chances are you can bypass the tuner box |
| [00:11:00] | MrSpiffy: | which is why I still have dumb basic analog cable |
| [00:11:00] | h3x: | does the hauppauge wintv go-plus work with mythtv? |
| [00:11:00] | h3x: | its model 1033 (if that makes any difference) |
| [00:11:00] | MrSpiffy: | supplemented with a netflix account |
| [00:12:00] | h3x: | hey... analog cable rules. |
| [00:12:00] | h3x: | :p |
| [00:12:00] | Majn00n: | ahh so like digital cable wont work I see or HDTV |
| [00:12:00] | juski: | if it wasn't for digital cable I wouldn't have broadband |
| [00:12:00] | juski: | Majn00n – you need a box for digital and HDTV |
| [00:12:00] | MrSpiffy: | digital cable here has a lot to be desired |
| [00:12:00] | MrSpiffy: | I've seen it |
| [00:12:00] | MrSpiffy: | blech |
| [00:12:00] | juski: | it has here too.. 350+ channels and nothing on |
| [00:13:00] | MrSpiffy: | quality is poo-poo here |
| [00:13:00] | h3x: | does the hauppauge wintv go-plus work with mythtv? |
| [00:13:00] | MrSpiffy: | at least a tmy parents house |
| [00:13:00] | MrSpiffy: | h3x I am not sure |
| [00:13:00] | Majn00n: | yeah like the pink floyd song "100 channels and nothing but shit on tv" |
| [00:13:00] | h3x: | :( |
| [00:13:00] | juski: | we've got 1.8mbits on all channels – it's very good when the channel has been optimized properly before tx |
| [00:13:00] | MrSpiffy: | h3x, I suspect it is a brooktree device (guess) |
| [00:13:00] | h3x: | whats a brooktree device? |
| [00:13:00] | MrSpiffy: | h3x, google on bttv wintv-go |
| [00:13:00] | juski: | h3x – sounds like a standard v4l capture device... software encoding |
| [00:14:00] | MrSpiffy: | probably |
| [00:14:00] | h3x: | so it should work? |
| [00:14:00] | MrSpiffy: | google it man – if the linux bttv (brooktree) module drives it, then it should work |
| [00:14:00] | MrSpiffy: | I use an old wintv 401 card – bttv, v4l software capture |
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| [00:18:00] | MrSpiffy: | h3x, that card is not good man. mono sound |
| [00:18:00] | MrSpiffy: | eeeeewwwww |
| [00:18:00] | juski: | you haven't bought it already have you, h3x? |
| [00:19:00] | MrSpiffy: | but it is a bttv card so it should "work" |
| [00:19:00] | MrSpiffy: | mono sound |
| [00:19:00] | ** MrSpiffy shudders ** | |
| [00:19:00] | juski: | but you can upsample it to 5.1 in xine lol |
| [00:20:00] | MrSpiffy: | sick man |
| [00:20:00] | MrSpiffy: | 5.1 mono |
| [00:24:00] | h3x: | are you sure its mono sound? |
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| [00:25:00] | eidolon: | hi folks. i'm about to purchase my vidcap card, i think I'm goign to get a single Hauppage 150 card. problem is, there's several on neweggs site. |
| [00:25:00] | eidolon: | 'hauppage 1042 pci interface win tv 150 pvr-mce tuner card for mce" |
| [00:25:00] | eidolon: | ($69) |
| [00:25:00] | eidolon: | 'hauppage wintv-pvr-150 pci interface wintv-pvr-150-Retail' $91.99 |
| [00:26:00] | eidolon: | hauppage wintv-pcr 150mce-lp pci interface wintv-pcr 150mce-lp' $75.00 |
| [00:26:00] | eidolon: | which one? |
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| [00:26:00] | juski: | h3x: WinTV-GO PCI bus card with 125 channel cable-ready TV tuner (mono audio) |
| [00:26:00] | eidolon: | i think 'lp' is just 'low profile' |
| [00:27:00] | juski: | eidolon – yes lp means 'low profile' |
| [00:27:00] | eidolon: | oka, so what's up with the middle one? |
| [00:27:00] | h3x: | ok thanks |
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| [00:27:00] | eidolon: | or, what does 'mce' mean, since that doestn't have that. |
| [00:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | h3 |
| [00:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | h3x |
| [00:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_goplus.html |
| [00:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | actually |
| [00:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | maybe not mono |
| [00:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | only found 1 reference to it |
| [00:30:00] | MrSpiffy: | and that might be wrong |
| [00:33:00] | MrSpiffy: | nope |
| [00:33:00] | MrSpiffy: | doesn;t look like a mono sound |
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| [00:36:00] | NightBird: | mce are the microsoft certified cards |
| [00:37:00] | NightBird: | that means you can use them in the microsoft tv version of their os... |
| [00:37:00] | NightBird: | they don't have a remote, but they have a radio tuner... |
| [00:37:00] | NightBird: | not sure if myth can pick up the radio tuner.... |
| [00:38:00] | eidolon: | hm. |
| [00:38:00] | eidolon: | i'm gonna need the remote, yes? |
| [00:38:00] | eidolon: | i'm most likely going to run knoppmyth, which IIRC, has a prebuilt kernel with LIRC configured for the hauppage remote. |
| [00:39:00] | Krazylegz: | Yes it does. |
| [00:39:00] | eidolon: | okay, so i should do that. odd that the non-mce version is cheaper. :) |
| [00:39:00] | eidolon: | er. |
| [00:39:00] | eidolon: | no, it isn't. never mind :) |
| [00:40:00] | NightBird: | you don't need a remote, but.... |
| [00:40:00] | NightBird: | it makes things a bit nicer.. |
| [00:40:00] | eidolon: | well. if i'm going to park this in with the stereo gear, i'll want to control it via remote, yes? |
| [00:40:00] | NightBird: | or get a wireless keyboard |
| [00:40:00] | NightBird: | :P |
| [00:40:00] | eidolon: | true. bulky though. |
| [00:40:00] | NightBird: | yeah |
| [00:42:00] | NightBird: | but it allows for using it like a linux box as well... |
| [00:42:00] | NightBird: | :P |
| [00:42:00] | NightBird: | ok, I'm away |
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| [00:42:00] | eidolon: | i have PLENTY of linux hardware, thankyouvermuch :) |
| [00:43:00] | h3x: | i have one quick question |
| [00:43:00] | h3x: | how do I get listings |
| [00:43:00] | h3x: | tv listings in mythtv |
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| [00:45:00] | h3x: | im at zap2it but i dont see where to sign up for the listing |
| [00:46:00] | Krazylegz: | http://labs.zap2it.com |
| [00:46:00] | h3x: | thank you master |
| [00:46:00] | Krazylegz: | *Meister. |
| [00:47:00] | Krazylegz: | Do you have a login? |
| [00:48:00] | h3x: | signing up |
| [00:48:00] | h3x: | its asking for a certificate code |
| [00:48:00] | dj_segfault: | Is the account permanent? I remember a while ago I signed up for that and it was temporary. |
| [00:49:00] | dj_segfault: | It expired in 6 months or something. |
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| [00:49:00] | Krazylegz: | Use the code ZIYN-DQZO-SBUT courtesy from mythtv.org. |
| [00:49:00] | PatrickDK: | anyone know if there is a site that lets you know what hdtv channels are receivable in your area? |
| [00:49:00] | Krazylegz: | dj_segfault: Yes it expires, but then you can extend it by taking a short survey. |
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| [00:51:00] | PatrickDK: | ah, found one |
| [00:51:00] | PatrickDK: | antennaweb.org |
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| [00:53:00] | mrproper_: | When i try to transcode any recordings i get a "Unkown Video Codec:" in the mythbackend.log, any ideas? |
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| [00:54:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, you didn't compile in the correct codec into transcode |
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| [00:58:00] | mrproper_: | PatrickDK: im using the apt rpm mythtv-suite |
| [00:59:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, your at the mercy of the rpm creator than |
| [00:59:00] | PatrickDK: | either, you have to install the codec yourself, and it will work |
| [00:59:00] | PatrickDK: | or you willhave to compile from source |
| [00:59:00] | PatrickDK: | not sure, I never use rpm's |
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| [01:01:00] | mrproper_: | PatrickDK: i just want to make sure i havent configured anything incorrectly |
| [01:04:00] | PatrickDK: | dunno |
| [01:11:00] | PatrickDK: | damn, the only hdtv I can receive at my house, is law&order |
| [01:12:00] | PatrickDK: | nbc |
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| [01:42:00] | juski: | heh.. didn't miss much when I stepped out then |
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| [02:07:00] | Ryushin: | PatrickDK: You have HD working? Which card do you have? |
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| [02:21:00] | juski: | hmm having a spot of bother with my query.value in my patchy thing |
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| [02:25:00] | fatmatt: | are there alternate debian packages to the mdz ones? |
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| [02:32:00] | fatmatt: | maybe I should just build from cvs... |
| [02:32:00] | juski: | arrgghh I keep getting the error " error: invalid conversion from `const char*' to `int'" |
| [02:33:00] | juski: | fatmatt – you might be ok so long as you don't use DVB |
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| [02:40:00] | qfx: | anytone know of a good how to for compiling from source on Fedora? |
| [02:41:00] | juski: | ./configure --help |
| [02:41:00] | juski: | then do all the ./configure things you need to do |
| [02:41:00] | juski: | then qmake mythtv/pro |
| [02:41:00] | juski: | then make |
| [02:41:00] | juski: | sorted :) |
| [02:41:00] | juski: | after downloading & unpacking the source, of course |
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| [02:42:00] | qfx: | OK dokee |
| [02:43:00] | qfx: | Actually, I suspect my problem is more in my ivtv drivers.... maybe I'll try that first |
| [02:44:00] | juski: | get the hardware working first... then try it in mythtv ;-) |
| [02:45:00] | ** fatmatt uses DVB ** | |
| [02:45:00] | qfx: | yah. I got a hauppauge pvr-150 but it doesn't seem to work :( |
| [02:46:00] | fatmatt: | I updated my debian packages, unfortuneatley there are issues with the plugins |
| [02:48:00] | juski: | now why did you go & do that, fatmatt? ;-) |
| [02:52:00] | fatmatt: | after an acquaintance of mine got hacked by an un-updated ssh flaw I update stuff regularly.. |
| [02:52:00] | fatmatt: | which might not be such a great idea. |
| [02:52:00] | fatmatt: | maybe I'll just revert |
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| [02:53:00] | juski: | ahhh... |
| [02:53:00] | juski: | don't mind me... just learning to hack code on the fly |
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| [03:00:00] | juski: | OMG my code is compiling at last! |
| [03:04:00] | juski: | where I was going wrong (apart from being a noob at c++ that is) was my function was crap, so I'm doing it without a function now |
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| [03:05:00] | ** juski needs a dcc cluster ** | |
| [03:07:00] | juski: | (and sleep) |
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| [03:12:00] | juski: | is levon watching? |
| [03:12:00] | B5Duster: | hello everyone – I'm having sort of a strange issue. I seem to have lost my ringbuffer (I believe it was because I discovered my mounted /cache was not mounted during the install). I can play video through mplayer fine (/dev/video) however I get the "Can't initialize video" error when I try to play liveTV. /cache/cache is empty. Can I recreate it somehow? mythtv-setup doesn't do it. |
| [03:14:00] | juski: | what's mythtv-setup set to use as the ringbuffer location? 'cache/cache? |
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| [03:15:00] | B5Duster: | juski, that is correct |
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| [03:16:00] | B5Duster: | but I seem to remember a ringbuf1.nuv file residing there |
| [03:16:00] | juski: | is it mounted now, B5Duster? |
| [03:16:00] | B5Duster: | unless that has changed in the new ver |
| [03:16:00] | B5Duster: | juski, yes |
| [03:16:00] | juski: | and when you ls /cache/cache ? |
| [03:16:00] | juski: | nothing there? |
| [03:16:00] | B5Duster: | nothing |
| [03:17:00] | juski: | you set the right permissions? |
| [03:17:00] | B5Duster: | yes. Mythtv user has access to all of cache |
| [03:17:00] | juski: | you could run mythbackend in a terminal session... see what the error message is when you try to watch tv |
| [03:18:00] | B5Duster: | drwxr-xr-x 4 mythtv mythtv 4096 Sep 16 18:14 cache |
| [03:18:00] | B5Duster: | juski, See, that's just it. I don't see anything that resembles an error msg |
| [03:18:00] | redfox: | I just installed the latest version of ivtv, and my pvr-150 seems to be working... should I upgrade firmware or let it go? |
| [03:18:00] | juski: | was it working before, B5Duster? |
| [03:18:00] | B5Duster: | before I was getting unable to open cache/cache/ringbuf1.nuv so i created cache/cache and it never complained again |
| [03:19:00] | B5Duster: | but instated of the black screen I get the unable to init error from mythfrontend |
| [03:19:00] | B5Duster: | no, not really :) |
| [03:19:00] | B5Duster: | This is a new install |
| [03:19:00] | juski: | redfox – if it ain't broken ;-) |
| [03:19:00] | redfox: | juski, that is what I'm thinking... |
| [03:19:00] | juski: | has livetv ever worked for you in mythtv, B5Duster? |
| [03:20:00] | juski: | if it has, I don't think the problem lies with mythtv |
| [03:20:00] | juski: | oops.. I mean if it HASN'T |
| [03:20:00] | joat: | my program listings are off by 4 hours, and I'm guessing because I had one time zone or another wrong somewhere |
| [03:20:00] | B5Duster: | well it has on other machines of similar design |
| [03:20:00] | juski: | that ain't the same thing, B5Duster |
| [03:20:00] | joat: | I tried changing time zone adjustment to auto in mythsetup, and re-ran mythfilldatabase, with no change |
| [03:21:00] | B5Duster: | and like I said, it's not the decoder card if I can grab from /dev/video |
| [03:21:00] | B5Duster: | I know, I know |
| [03:21:00] | B5Duster: | I've never encountered anything like this before though |
| [03:21:00] | joat: | any suggestions? |
| [03:21:00] | juski: | I've read something on the users mailing list about this, B5Duster... video seems to work by catting /dev/video0 into mplayer, but doesn't in mythtv |
| [03:22:00] | juski: | joat – a while ago Qt was causing issues with the time being messed up in the EPG |
| [03:22:00] | juski: | maybe your linux timezone is out of step with your Tv grabber |
| [03:22:00] | B5Duster: | no I know, you're actually viewing recorded video when watching livetv in myth, but all the problems I've ever had required troubleshooting the cap card – this is new territory for me |
| [03:23:00] | joat: | I'm using a fairly old version of myth |
| [03:23:00] | joat: | the last stable in portage |
| [03:23:00] | juski: | I suggest searching the users (and dev) mailing list, B5 |
| [03:23:00] | B5Duster: | juski, Thanks, I shall. |
| [03:23:00] | juski: | what version, joat? 0.18.1-r2 ? |
| [03:23:00] | joat: | yea |
| [03:24:00] | juski: | should be fine I think, joat – it's ok for me... which tv grabber you using, out of interest? |
| [03:24:00] | joat: | pvr-150mce |
| [03:24:00] | juski: | no I mean which EPG grabber |
| [03:24:00] | joat: | oh, zap2it |
| [03:24:00] | juski: | you set your locality correctly there? |
| [03:25:00] | joat: | I think so |
| [03:25:00] | juski: | and is your linux TZ correct? |
| [03:25:00] | joat: | dunno, how would I check? |
| [03:25:00] | juski: | and.. did you try entering an offset of 4 hours into mythtv, joat? |
| [03:26:00] | joat: | not yet, I wanted to see if I could fix it correctly, rather than just sticking that in |
| [03:26:00] | joat: | it was originally set to none, not auto, and if I can't figure out where the tz is wrong, I'll just try + and – 4 |
| [03:27:00] | juski: | I'm damned if I can remember where linux keeps its TZ files lol |
| [03:28:00] | redfox: | can mplayer play dvds? |
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| [03:29:00] | juski: | redfox: yes, but not with menu support |
| [03:29:00] | juski: | xine and VLC both support menus |
| [03:30:00] | redfox: | alright |
| [03:34:00] | DarkBeer: | can anyone help me out with getting my cdrom and dvdrw mounted? using FC4, and trying to follow the instructions at jared's site, but must be doing something wrong. I change my fstab lines, but they wind up getting changed back, and neither drive is mounted |
| [03:35:00] | juski: | you saving the file before you quit, DarkBeer? |
| [03:35:00] | DarkBeer: | yep |
| [03:36:00] | DarkBeer: | not quite sure I understand about HAL and udev? perhaps that is where my conflict is? |
| [03:37:00] | juski: | no idea there... |
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| [03:45:00] | DarkBeer: | this look ok? /dev/hdd /media/cdrom iso9660 pamconsole,exec,noauto,managed,user 0 0 |
| [03:47:00] | juski: | think so... |
| [03:47:00] | DarkBeer: | then mount -a to mount? |
| [03:47:00] | juski: | i normally don't have my cdroms mounted |
| [03:48:00] | juski: | just mount them with mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom |
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| [04:12:00] | redfox: | does mythsetup create the database for me? |
| [04:13:00] | redfox: | or do I have mysql problems? |
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| [04:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythsetup and mythfrontend will create the tables/base values, but they do nto create the database |
| [04:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | that is done by the mc.sql file |
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| [04:16:00] | redfox: | ah ok |
| [04:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | mc.sql creates the blank databsae and sets up the base mythtv user |
| [04:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | then the apps fill it in |
| [04:16:00] | redfox: | thanks... I think that part is missing from the guide I'm using |
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| [04:35:00] | redfox: | mythfilldatabase timed out after grabbing several days worth of data... is it safe to run again? |
| [04:35:00] | redfox: | or is there a better way to handle this? |
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| [04:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | should be safe to run again |
| [04:38:00] | redfox: | actually... I think it timed out because it couldn't connect to the backend |
| [04:38:00] | redfox: | does the backend need to be working first? |
| [04:39:00] | jnc: | fatmatt: hey there |
| [04:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | No, all it REALLY needs is access to MySQL |
| [04:39:00] | redfox: | hmm ok I'll try it again |
| [04:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | it dumps the data into MysqL then sends a command to the backend to tell it to undate it's recording schedule |
| [04:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | update |
| [04:39:00] | redfox: | ah ok |
| [04:39:00] | redfox: | it looks like it finished downloading and was trying to connect to the backend |
| [04:39:00] | redfox: | but I'm not running the backend yet |
| [04:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah, sounds aboutright |
| [04:40:00] | redfox: | ok so no worries I guess |
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| [04:41:00] | redfox: | yeah it worked that time with the backend running |
| [04:41:00] | redfox: | I should probably update this gentoo wiki... |
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| [04:44:00] | juski: | anyone here know anything about the Qstring function? |
| [04:45:00] | juski: | trying to test a db column in an IF statement... column in question is a tinyint in the DB |
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| [04:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | just: QT has very good documentation online |
| [04:48:00] | defaultro: | hey guys, usually, what is the MHz range of Direct TV satellite? |
| [04:49:00] | mchou: | man, that was some serious work...... |
| [04:50:00] | mchou: | just replaced all the capacitors on my mobo |
| [04:50:00] | defaultro: | cool |
| [04:50:00] | defaultro: | was it because, it keeps rebooting :) |
| [04:50:00] | mchou: | no, original caps were bulging |
| [04:50:00] | defaultro: | yeah, soon it will keep rebooting |
| [04:50:00] | mchou: | pregnant caps |
| [04:51:00] | defaultro: | i had 4 or 5 caps preggy too |
| [04:51:00] | mchou: | didnt want it to blow shit all over the mobo and fry my components |
| [04:51:00] | juski: | GreyFoxx – you're not kidding! |
| [04:52:00] | mchou: | I would have preferred Rubycons but all I could get was Nishicon.... |
| [04:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | juski: I keep a link yto it open most of the time :) |
| [04:55:00] | juski: | ahhh... Qstring isn't the thing I need to be using |
| [04:55:00] | mchou: | Now I need to work on my other mobo..... |
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| [04:55:00] | juski: | i've got: if (QString("select useonairguide from channel where channum=m_dbox2channel") = "1") |
| [04:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | uhhhh |
| [04:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | QString is a string storage/manipulation class |
| [04:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's not a means to access the database |
| [04:56:00] | juski: | as I've just read lol |
| [04:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | so you have essentially said if "select useonairguide from channel where channum=m_dbox2channel" = "1" |
| [04:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | plus a single = is an asignment, double == are for comparisons |
| [04:57:00] | juski: | yeh I know that now lol |
| [04:57:00] | defaultro: | GreyFoxx, do you have a satellite connection? |
| [04:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | defaultro: Yes, but I don't use any dvb stuff any more |
| [04:58:00] | juski: | dammit – I knew I shoulda stayed away from Basic in my schooldays |
| [05:01:00] | hadees: | does anyone know what they call a normal coax cable connector. the ones like you hook up to a pvr-250 |
| [05:01:00] | hadees: | i am trying to make my own coax cable |
| [05:01:00] | juski: | in which country, hadees? |
| [05:01:00] | hadees: | usa |
| [05:01:00] | juski: | in the USA it's an 'F-connector' |
| [05:02:00] | hadees: | RF? |
| [05:02:00] | juski: | in the UK & Europe it's a UHF 'Belling-Lee connector' |
| [05:02:00] | jnc: | connects any word to any other fucking word |
| [05:02:00] | ** jnc harumphs ** | |
| [05:02:00] | juski: | no hadees, just 'F' |
| [05:04:00] | juski: | ach well I gave the coding a shot... there's always tomorrow (this morning and afternoon) |
| [05:05:00] | jnc: | i'm upset at mythtv audio quality being poor |
| [05:05:00] | defaultro: | GreyFoxx, I would just like to know the Mhz that DirectTV uses |
| [05:05:00] | hadees: | anyone have any experience with these connectors, i am not sure what to get, there are a bunch of F types |
| [05:05:00] | jnc: | do y'all notice the poor quality of recorded audio or in live tv? |
| [05:05:00] | jnc: | maybe it's my setup |
| [05:05:00] | jnc: | i've tried various input levels |
| [05:06:00] | jnc: | two different sound chipsets |
| [05:06:00] | juski: | right – 4.05 in the A.M.... time to go to bed lol. night all |
| [05:06:00] | jnc: | still, no effect. also, when unmuting via alsamixer manually, the sound is crystal clear. no troubles there. it is only bad in live tv or when recorded via mythtv |
| [05:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | defaultro: No idea |
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| [05:07:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | jnc : In 20 different installs of mythtv (all with pvr cards) I've never had any sound issues. Both OSS and alsa |
| [05:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | most of them were nforce2 boards with onboard sound, but a couple were using a sblive with the emu10k1 driver + oss |
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| [05:12:00] | jnc: | GreyFoxx: my issue is that there is a highfrequency artifact noise |
| [05:12:00] | jnc: | it sounds like alien signals are coming in on top of the tv track |
| [05:12:00] | jnc: | it almost sounds like a bad encoding |
| [05:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | what kind of capture card ? |
| [05:15:00] | jnc: | ATI TV Wonder VE |
| [05:15:00] | jnc: | two of those |
| [05:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | Never used one of those personally |
| [05:16:00] | jnc: | it's fine when i unmute the playback of LINE IN |
| [05:16:00] | jnc: | when it's recorded, no good |
| [05:16:00] | jnc: | btaudio does not work on those cards though |
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| [05:26:00] | h3x01A5: | does the ATI TV Wonder Pro work with MythTV |
| [05:27:00] | jnc: | ask me if hemorroids are a good thing |
| [05:27:00] | jnc: | that's an easier question to answer |
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| [05:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | h3x01A5: The TV Wonder (not the all-in-wonder) cards should be supported by the bttv linux drivers and "should" work fine |
| [05:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | certainly not the most commonly used card, but "suppose" to work |
| [05:30:00] | h3x01A5: | how do i get it on my tv |
| [05:30:00] | h3x01A5: | i dont want to watch it on the monitor |
| [05:30:00] | jnc: | h3x01A5: which video output device do you use? |
| [05:30:00] | h3x01A5: | regular tv |
| [05:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | use a video card with TV out ? |
| [05:30:00] | h3x01A5: | my videeo card only has s-video |
| [05:30:00] | h3x01A5: | there is no tv-out |
| [05:30:00] | redfox: | instead of mplayer, does anyone use a different media player to watch dvds in myth? |
| [05:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | h3x01A5: Are you referring to s-video for capture only ? |
| [05:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | redfox: most use xine |
| [05:31:00] | redfox: | ah ok |
| [05:31:00] | h3x01A5: | i have a nvidia fx5200 with the VGA input which goes to my monitor and an S-VIDEO jack as well |
| [05:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | h3x01A5: That would work |
| [05:32:00] | h3x01A5: | i want to be able to use mythtv on my regular tv |
| [05:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | Assuming you have s-video in to the TV or a s-video-> composite adapter |
| [05:32:00] | h3x01A5: | its an older tv with only coax and RCA jacks (r,y,w) |
| [05:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | an s-video to composite(rca) adapter is what you need then |
| [05:33:00] | jnc: | h3x01A5: you'll need nvidia drivers |
| [05:33:00] | h3x01A5: | how much does one of those cost |
| [05:33:00] | jnc: | like 25 bucks at a walmart |
| [05:33:00] | jnc: | they are overpriced there |
| [05:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | h3x01A5: Most cards come with one. But you can usually find an adapter or a svideo->composite cable for around $20 or less |
| [05:33:00] | jnc: | you want to find one from an online cable store for 8 dollars usd |
| [05:33:00] | jnc: | yes |
| [05:34:00] | h3x01A5: | ok |
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| [05:35:00] | h3x01A5: | i have a dvd burner (http://www.liteonit.com/DC/english/lvw_5005/lvw_5005.htm). its a lite-on with s-video in and out, and the composite cable is currently in my tv |
| [05:35:00] | h3x01A5: | can't i just take a S-Video cable from my video card to the liteon burner? |
| [05:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | Likely |
| [05:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | you will have to experiment on your own to find out :) |
| [05:37:00] | h3x01A5: | will a coax splitter work? it has 1 in and 2 outs |
| [05:37:00] | h3x01A5: | its an "2-way amplifier" |
| [05:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | work for what ? |
| [05:37:00] | h3x01A5: | for getting it on my TV |
| [05:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | no |
| [05:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | S-video is not coax |
| [05:38:00] | h3x01A5: | no i mean |
| [05:38:00] | h3x01A5: | a coax cable that goes from the capture card to the splitter (OUT), the cable feed goes in IN, and TV goes to (OUT) |
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| [05:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well that would work fine for splitting your existing coax signal into your tv |
| [05:39:00] | D-side: | months and months of troublefree operation, and now, "prebuffering pause" hell. out of nowhere, or at least after some unknown change. |
| [05:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | but would not magically pull your videocard output tothe tv |
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| [05:46:00] | h3x01A5: | what do you recommend for a capture card with a remote and that does mpeg 4? |
| [05:46:00] | h3x01A5: | or mpeg 2 |
| [05:47:00] | h3x01A5: | im looking for quality as well but i dont want to go extremely high end |
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| [05:47:00] | D-side: | ignore my whining. "unknown change" was just remembered. |
| [05:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | the pvr250 / pvr150 are by far the most common. quality is good, uses no CPU for compression. But they are standard tv only |
| [05:47:00] | eidolon: | hm. what's a wintv model 190? |
| [05:48:00] | h3x01A5: | what do you mean by standard tv only |
| [05:48:00] | ** eidolon assumes this is something to avoid. ** | |
| [05:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | h3x01A5: No HDTV, and no DVB/satellite |
| [05:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | the PVR xxx cards are for standard analog cable |
| [05:48:00] | h3x01A5: | what is DVB |
| [05:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | digital video broadcast. Digital cable/Satellite |
| [05:49:00] | h3x01A5: | is there any out there that work with both |
| [05:49:00] | h3x01A5: | and are mythtv compatible |
| [05:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | no |
| [05:49:00] | h3x01A5: | im assuming by DVB you're referring to the pcHD3000? |
| [05:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | well, maybe the pchdtv3000. But the standard capture doesn't use hardware compression. It will do over the air HDTV and some unencrypted digital cable (which is getting more rare every day) |
| [05:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | h3x01A5: no, dvb is dvb. |
| [05:50:00] | h3x01A5: | out of curiousity, what card do you use |
| [05:50:00] | h3x01A5: | and what type of signal do you have |
| [05:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | My box currently has 3 pvr250's on regular cable |
| [05:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use to have a dvbs card connected to my dish, but nothing is interesting in the unencrypted stuff so I took it out |
| [05:51:00] | h3x01A5: | what is the difference between the 150 and 250 model and can you give me a rough est of how much these cards go for |
| [05:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | h3x01A5: google is your friend |
| [05:52:00] | h3x01A5: | thanks |
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| [05:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | hahahaha |
| [05:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | that's cute. |
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| [05:54:00] | h3x01A4: | one question, does the 150 and 250 come with a remote? |
| [05:55:00] | h3x01A4: | i only see the front box on google |
| [05:55:00] | D-side: | if it doesnt say "MCE" on the end, probably. |
| [05:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | It depends on if you get the MCE versions or not I think. I think the retail versions do. but it should say on any box or add |
| [05:58:00] | h3x01A4: | now, us-cable and us-cable-hrc |
| [05:59:00] | h3x01A4: | how do i figure which one i got |
| [05:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | try one, then the other |
| [05:59:00] | h3x01A4: | or can i just experiment and switch between the two and see what works? |
| [05:59:00] | h3x01A4: | lol |
| [05:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | or calling your cable company |
| [05:59:00] | h3x01A4: | knew you were gonna say that |
| [05:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's likely just us-cable |
| [05:59:00] | h3x01A4: | ok thanks |
| [05:59:00] | h3x01A4: | again |
| [05:59:00] | h3x01A4: | lol |
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| [06:06:00] | eiggirC: | Yay! my new mythbox is running |
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| [06:24:00] | redfox: | are there any tricks to getting 5.1 surround working with a dvd in xine? |
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| [07:11:00] | B5Duster: | hey all – having a problem with missing ringbuf1.nuv. My permissions on /cache/cache are fine but I can't seem to recreate the file. Nothing strange in the output from mythbackend or mythfrontend... any ideas? |
| [07:11:00] | B5Duster: | I sifted through the mailing lists and google to no avail |
| [07:11:00] | jnc: | no hard disk space? |
| [07:12:00] | B5Duster: | I can output straight to mplayer from /dev/video however |
| [07:12:00] | B5Duster: | jnc, 15 gigs devoted to the partition |
| [07:12:00] | B5Duster: | the file just does not appear |
| [07:12:00] | B5Duster: | I even tried creating it as an empty file to see if myth would append to it |
| [07:12:00] | B5Duster: | it seems to have deleted it instead |
| [07:16:00] | jnc: | well, i'll throw a stupid offer out and say "give me root, i will fix" |
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| [07:21:00] | B5Duster: | jnc, I know better than that :) |
| [07:21:00] | B5Duster: | appreciate the offer though |
| [07:21:00] | jnc: | that's kind of where i'm at |
| [07:22:00] | jnc: | at least make a gesture of help should you be very desperate |
| [07:26:00] | B5Duster: | I'm pretty stumped on this |
| [07:26:00] | jnc: | you could strace it |
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| [07:26:00] | jnc: | that would say a lot of cryptic stuff |
| [07:27:00] | B5Duster: | I have to get smooth dvd playback working as well – I'm not convinced xvmc is working correctly |
| [07:27:00] | B5Duster: | an epia sp13000 with 1.3Ghz and a hardware accelerator should play dvds without issue |
| [07:28:00] | B5Duster: | and I'm using knoppmyth btw – but I think I still need to hunt down the latest unichrome drivers – these damned boards are complex |
| [07:38:00] | B5Duster: | I'm wondering if there is a way to tell if its using hardware accel |
| [07:39:00] | B5Duster: | I guess the xine console output would tell |
| [07:40:00] | B5Duster: | jnc, Can you give me the permissions on your ringbuf1.nuv? |
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| [07:48:00] | jsharpe_: | ivtv isn't getting loaded when I boot, where can i stick depmod -a and modprobe ivtv to get it to load on boot? |
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| [07:49:00] | snerfu: | rc.local |
| [07:49:00] | snerfu: | very ghetto way |
| [07:52:00] | B5Duster: | hmm I think enabling xvMc is my problem |
| [07:53:00] | B5Duster: | lemme try turning that ish off (although I'd like to use it) |
| [07:55:00] | eiggirC: | heh my PII 266 played DVDs okay |
| [07:55:00] | jnc: | B5Duster: got it? |
| [07:59:00] | Cardoe: | Gentoo people? |
| [07:59:00] | Cardoe: | anyone? |
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| [08:00:00] | djperegrine: | yo |
| [08:00:00] | djperegrine: | my auto-expire doesn't work :( |
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| [08:50:00] | Bio: | Uh oh. I just ran the mythconverg database restore script by accident. The last time I backed up was almost a year ago. What have I lost? |
| [08:51:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | what restore script? |
| [08:52:00] | Bio: | /usr/local/bin/mythrestore |
| [08:52:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | don't know what that is, must be created by your packager |
| [08:53:00] | Cardoe: | Anyone have an Aria case? |
| [08:53:00] | Bio: | oh crap. I lost everything |
| [08:53:00] | Bio: | My myth box reverted to 2004 :( :( :( |
| [08:54:00] | Bio: | Oh my god this sucks. |
| [08:55:00] | Bio: | ack! all my recordings are gone! |
| [08:55:00] | Bio: | and my schedules! |
| [08:55:00] | Cardoe: | Captain_Murdoch: do you have an Aria? |
| [08:56:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | no, have old junk. :) my frontend is an old Celeron 466 Dell Optiplex GX100. |
| [08:58:00] | Cardoe: | what kind of backend? |
| [08:58:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | doesn't look too bad in my stereo/video cabinet. It's smaller than my small VCR. http://www4.infi.net/~cpinkham/tmp/dsc01053.jpg |
| [08:58:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | a IBM P3–700 running 3 AVerMedia M179 cards and another identical P3–700 running 2 air2pc cards. |
| [08:59:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | each of those 3 were picked up on compgeeks.com for $99 each a few years ago, so I've spent more on capture cards than systems so far. |
| [08:59:00] | Cardoe: | heh |
| [08:59:00] | Cardoe: | I can't figure out how to get PCI cards into the Aria |
| [08:59:00] | Cardoe: | cause the top part of the metal bracket needs to go in first |
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| [09:17:00] | B5Duster: | jnc, Yes, it was xvmc |
| [09:17:00] | B5Duster: | but I really need it for playback as it's very choppy |
| [09:18:00] | B5Duster: | I may just need to compile the xf86 driver for it |
| [09:19:00] | fatmatt: | anyone using svn? |
| [09:25:00] | jnc: | not i |
| [09:26:00] | timschmidt: | not here either... I am running on Xen though. |
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| [09:26:00] | fatmatt: | trying to work out how to get the plugins installed.. |
| [09:30:00] | fatmatt: | did myth move into the main debian distribution / apt thing? I commented out mdz's lines and myth is still installable |
| [09:31:00] | timschmidt: | wouldn't suprise me. |
| [09:32:00] | timschmidt: | It's been available in Ubuntu for as long as I can remember (which is based on Debian unstable) and since Sarge was just recently released, I'd assume it's available in sarge... checking... |
| [09:33:00] | fatmatt: | looks like its in testing |
| [09:34:00] | fatmatt: | no plugins though |
| [09:34:00] | timschmidt: | Yeah, not in main. |
| [09:35:00] | fatmatt: | maybe I can install the plugins from source... |
| [09:36:00] | timschmidt: | I'm sure it's possible, I'm also sure I wouldn't like to try it. |
| [09:36:00] | timschmidt: | but maybe someone here has done it before? |
| [09:37:00] | B5Duster: | hmm looks like x.org cvs is the way to go with this chipset |
| [09:37:00] | B5Duster: | this board did just come out early this summer – I guess this kind of crap is to be expected :/ |
| [09:38:00] | ** B5Duster plods on ** | |
| [09:38:00] | timschmidt: | What chipset is that? |
| [09:38:00] | B5Duster: | the CN400 northbridge on the via sp13000 mainboard |
| [09:38:00] | timschmidt: | Ah... |
| [09:39:00] | B5Duster: | support is a bit sketchy for it |
| [09:39:00] | timschmidt: | I don't have a browser open atm, but I remember an openchrome project? |
| [09:39:00] | B5Duster: | hm |
| [09:40:00] | B5Duster: | well 'Ivor' released some unichrome drivers but evidently they don't support this chip |
| [09:40:00] | fatmatt: | how do you tell dpkg to ignore dependencies again? |
| [09:41:00] | timschmidt: | dpkg is easy, apt is a bitch |
| [09:42:00] | timschmidt: | is this what you're talking about: http://unichrome.sourceforge.net/ |
| [09:42:00] | timschmidt: | ? |
| [09:43:00] | B5Duster: | yes, dug around there already |
| [09:45:00] | timschmidt: | Ok then. That's all I got. ;) I've been using a Chaintech 7NIF2 for my frontend for a while... It's Nforce2 based. |
| [09:46:00] | timschmidt: | I'd really like to get my hands on one of XGI's Volari V3's though... |
| [09:46:00] | B5Duster: | those things are nice |
| [09:47:00] | B5Duster: | I'm just obsessed with the mini-itx box |
| [09:47:00] | timschmidt: | I would love to be, but I'm poor :( |
| [09:47:00] | B5Duster: | had a v-series via epia board in this box before but it couldn't hack the playback without a decoder |
| [09:48:00] | B5Duster: | and the pvr350 wouldn't fit in the case so I threw money at a mainboard instead |
| [09:48:00] | B5Duster: | these damn things are never-ending projects :) |
| [09:48:00] | timschmidt: | I've worked with C3's before (and loved them — mostly) and that doesn't suprise me. |
| [09:49:00] | B5Duster: | it worked great for everything except dvd playback |
| [09:49:00] | timschmidt: | You're telling me... I've just re-worked my setup from a 1.4Ghz duron with my 7NIF2 to a master backend (the 1.4 duron in another motherboard) running Debian stable + Xen 2.0.7, with Myth as a DomU, Asterisk@Home as a DomU, and an Ubuntu Breezy remote-desktop-via-NX as a DomU... |
| [09:49:00] | B5Duster: | but no matter what I did I couldn't get it to stop dropping frames and de-sync a/v |
| [09:50:00] | timschmidt: | The 7NIF2 is now host to a scavanged Athlon 800. |
| [09:51:00] | timschmidt: | My biggest problem has been getting acceptable over / underscan on my cheap 27" TV... I think my next purchase is going to have to be a used projector via eBay. |
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| [11:35:00] | gnuyen: | hi guys |
| [11:35:00] | gnuyen: | Is there anyway to build just the mythtv frontend? |
| [11:35:00] | gnuyen: | the readme doesn't really list such an option |
| [11:37:00] | gnuyen: | and ubuntu doesn't speak protocol v15 |
| [11:41:00] | fatmatt: | gnuyen: I don't know, you can try building packages from source and only installing the frontend |
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| [11:52:00] | gnuyen: | yeah there doesn' tseem to be a make install frontend |
| [11:53:00] | gnuyen: | so i'm guessing manual copying or install everything |
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| [12:18:00] | Chacabaou: | gnuyen: You can do it with the configure-flags. |
| [12:19:00] | laga: | Chacabaou: only in SVN. |
| [12:19:00] | Chacabaou: | Oh...ok. |
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| [12:30:00] | juski_bedtime: | morning |
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| [12:32:00] | laga: | hi juski |
| [12:33:00] | juski: | late finish last night, laga... my code isn't working yet but that's to be expected – what with my knowledge of QT & datatypes being non-existent |
| [12:33:00] | laga: | hehe |
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| [12:33:00] | laga: | i gave up on hacking mythmusic ;) |
| [12:33:00] | juski: | I managed to stop the dbox epg being grabbed, but I couldn't get it to do it selectively |
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| [12:34:00] | juski: | anyhoo – it's breakfast time :) |
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| [12:35:00] | holycow: | hey all |
| [12:36:00] | holycow: | anyone else loose their sound when they change a channel? |
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| [12:37:00] | laga: | holycow: try hitting '+' |
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| [12:49:00] | holycow: | *hmm* |
| [12:49:00] | holycow: | that didn't do it |
| [12:49:00] | holycow: | also the image gets a bit fuzzy |
| [12:49:00] | holycow: | very weird |
| [13:00:00] | juski: | holycow – what happens if you leave live tv when the sound has gone away on a channel, then go back into it? |
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| [13:31:00] | juski: | levolap... levon? |
| [13:32:00] | laga: | right |
| [13:32:00] | levolap: | left |
| [13:32:00] | laga: | up |
| [13:32:00] | levolap: | <---- this way -----> |
| [13:32:00] | ** laga does the hookey pookey ** | |
| [13:32:00] | ** levolap yawns ** | |
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| [13:33:00] | juski: | hello levon! I really like your dbox2 patch! I'm currently trying to get it to selectively grab the EPG, by checking the 'useonairguide' column |
| [13:33:00] | levolap: | the dbox epg grabber ignores the useonairguide column, it always grabs epg from all its channels. |
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| [13:34:00] | juski: | I know, levon – which is why I'm attempting to write some code |
| [13:34:00] | levolap: | I'm planning on changing some stuff with epg |
| [13:34:00] | levolap: | i c |
| [13:34:00] | juski: | I got it working very well with 0.18.1 :) |
| [13:34:00] | levolap: | sweet |
| [13:34:00] | juski: | my cable provider only gives 3 days worth of EPG data |
| [13:34:00] | juski: | :( |
| [13:35:00] | levolap: | mine gives almost a week, but still not enough for most planning. |
| [13:35:00] | juski: | I got my code to stop grabbing the epg.. but it's still needed on some channels |
| [13:36:00] | juski: | problems I've been having are all down to my lack of knowledge of QT & c++ lol |
| [13:36:00] | juski: | getting there tho |
| [13:38:00] | juski: | in the DBox2EPG::GetChannelID function you do a query.bindValue ... does that just return the value from the channum column into channelnumber ? |
| [13:40:00] | levolap: | bindValue replaces a dynamic variable inside a statement |
| [13:40:00] | levolap: | it does not return anything |
| [13:44:00] | levolap: | yummy... |
| [13:44:00] | ** levolap enjoys some earl grey... ** | |
| [13:45:00] | laga: | my designed frontend is going to enjoy a sledge hammer very soon. POS hardware |
| [13:45:00] | juski: | lol laga |
| [13:46:00] | laga: | designated* |
| [13:51:00] | juski: | so levon, apologies for my stupid questions... the getchannelID function ... to me it looks like it's getting chanid from channel and returning it in a string |
| [13:52:00] | juski: | while putting channelnumber into the channum column? |
| [13:55:00] | levolap: | ?? |
| [13:55:00] | levolap: | I really cannot follow your question |
| [13:55:00] | levolap: | query.prepare() prepares an SQL query |
| [13:55:00] | levolap: | if you want to put your values into a prepared sql statement, you use the bindvalue method |
| [13:56:00] | juski: | AHH |
| [13:56:00] | juski: | the penny drops |
| [13:57:00] | levolap: | ;) |
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| [13:58:00] | juski: | so it's a way to get a variable into an SQL query |
| [14:00:00] | levolap: | into a prepared query, yes. you could also just create a string containing your query and concatenate your where clause, but prepared statements are a lot faster. |
| [14:00:00] | juski: | cool... that's helped me make a leap :) |
| [14:02:00] | juski: | compiling now... might take some time (if it compiles) |
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| [14:14:00] | juski: | well, dbox2epg hasn't made any errors... |
| [14:16:00] | foobum: | The audio out of my pvr350 produces nothing but intermittent static... Also the picture is somewhat "jumpy". The source is fine (a digital sat box). I'm starting to suspect hardware – anything I should try before replacing it? |
| [14:16:00] | foobum: | Oh yeah.. The same problems are present under Windows.. |
| [14:17:00] | foobum: | The audio in seems ok – I get (crap sounding) sound across the pci bus in windows |
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| [14:19:00] | juski: | well, my code doesn't crash, but it's not working lol |
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| [14:20:00] | tns: | hi all |
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| [14:22:00] | juski: | hi tns |
| [14:23:00] | juski: | foobum... you tried the usual card juggling trick? |
| [14:23:00] | juski: | (and has the card worked previously??) |
| [14:35:00] | ** juski goes back to c++ school ** | |
| [14:37:00] | foobum: | card juggling? |
| [14:37:00] | foobum: | and no.. the card is new |
| [14:38:00] | juski: | then the card isn't necessarily hosed, foobum |
| [14:38:00] | foobum: | if you mean a different pci slot then yeah.. |
| [14:38:00] | foobum: | what else should i try? |
| [14:38:00] | juski: | hmm |
| [14:38:00] | juski: | could be a pci bus latency prob |
| [14:38:00] | foobum: | how would i diagnose / fix? |
| [14:40:00] | juski: | is the problem just that when you play a file into the card, you get crap audio at the audio outputs?.. is video ok? |
| [14:41:00] | foobum: | well yeah.. video is kinda ok – it's quite "jumpy" (linux and windows) but the only thing present on the audio out (which is hooked straight into an amp) is some crackly static kinda stuff |
| [14:41:00] | foobum: | this happens the same in windows and linux |
| [14:41:00] | foobum: | in windows the sound does come out of my sound card ok |
| [14:42:00] | juski: | could be that the card doesn't work, or simply that it's just not getting data fast enough over the bus |
| [14:42:00] | foobum: | im suspecting the card |
| [14:42:00] | foobum: | i figure if it doesnt work in windows, it just doesnt work |
| [14:42:00] | juski: | you could be right |
| [14:42:00] | foobum: | i hope so.. i really don't want two that don't work :) |
| [14:42:00] | juski: | what chipset is your motherboard? |
| [14:42:00] | foobum: | nforce4 |
| [14:43:00] | juski: | not via then... |
| [14:43:00] | foobum: | nah |
| [14:43:00] | juski: | well if it's no hassle to swap the card out, try that |
| [14:43:00] | foobum: | yeah.. i just wondered whether i was being stupid :) |
| [14:43:00] | foobum: | thanks for the ideas |
| [14:43:00] | juski: | why would you buy two 350 cards then? |
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| [14:44:00] | juski: | just curious... |
| [14:44:00] | foobum: | well.. i'll see if the new one works |
| [14:44:00] | foobum: | and if it does, take back the other |
| [14:44:00] | juski: | ahh right |
| [14:44:00] | foobum: | or.. i spose i could use it as a second surce |
| [14:44:00] | foobum: | sky -> 1 RF -> 2 |
| [14:45:00] | foobum: | then i can watch terrestial while i record sky i guess |
| [14:45:00] | juski: | it's a little overkill to have two mpeg decoders tho |
| [14:45:00] | foobum: | although it's an expensive way to achieve that |
| [14:45:00] | foobum: | yeah |
| [14:45:00] | foobum: | i'll take the other one back |
| [14:45:00] | foobum: | i just hope it is hardware :) |
| [14:45:00] | juski: | where did you buy the card from? |
| [14:46:00] | foobum: | oh some UK online retailer (that i know quite well) |
| [14:46:00] | foobum: | shouldnt be a problem to get it swapped / refunded |
| [14:46:00] | juski: | ahh cool... some of the places I know charge a handling/testing fee! |
| [14:46:00] | foobum: | ah.. nah.. they'll just take it back no problem |
| [14:47:00] | juski: | good luck with that then ;) |
| [14:47:00] | foobum: | but i'll get a new one first so i can determine if it really is hardware |
| [14:47:00] | foobum: | thanks :) |
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| [16:40:00] | funkyelf: | Whats up guys. I was wondering if MythTV is going to be completly useless in the US after all broadcasts must be digital. |
| [16:41:00] | funkyelf: | I heard this is coming sometime in 2006 |
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| [16:53:00] | PatrickDK: | that is only over the air broadcasts |
| [16:53:00] | PatrickDK: | and they will never keep that date |
| [16:54:00] | PatrickDK: | it will be delayed |
| [16:54:00] | PatrickDK: | and delayed again |
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| [16:56:00] | funkyelf: | so cable tuners are still good? I heard that it was all analog cable or air |
| [16:57:00] | PatrickDK: | they can't do anything about analog cable |
| [16:57:00] | PatrickDK: | that is not under goverment control |
| [16:57:00] | PatrickDK: | that isn't to say that the cable companies won't stop using analog cable, if all their sources start coming in digital |
| [16:58:00] | PatrickDK: | but the gov can't froce the cable company to switch to digital |
| [17:00:00] | funkyelf: | do you know if the composite or s-video in on the PVR 500 MCE can do hardware mpeg2 encoding? |
| [17:00:00] | juski: | funkyelf... yes |
| [17:01:00] | juski: | both encoders can take comp & svid inputs :) |
| [17:01:00] | juski: | (2nd AV inputs come in on a header.. .optional extra) |
| [17:01:00] | funkyelf: | oh, so I can use comp and svid at the same time and have both HW encoded? |
| [17:02:00] | PatrickDK: | only if you use differnt inputs |
| [17:02:00] | PatrickDK: | the one on the card is input1 |
| [17:02:00] | PatrickDK: | you need to get the input2 header to do that |
| [17:02:00] | funkyelf: | okay...so input1 is composite and svideo whichever I choose to use |
| [17:02:00] | PatrickDK: | yes, that is default on the card |
| [17:03:00] | PatrickDK: | input2 doesn't have the jacks |
| [17:03:00] | PatrickDK: | you need the $15 header to convert the plug into the jacks to use |
| [17:04:00] | funkyelf: | so can I set up myth to use both cable tuners and also the svideo from my cable box...so I'll have 3 inputs, but i can just only record two things at a time? |
| [17:04:00] | PatrickDK: | basically |
| [17:04:00] | funkyelf: | is it hard to setup lirc to change channels on my cable box? |
| [17:05:00] | laga: | OT: does anyone know how the option for nfs root is called in linux 2.6? i can't seem to find it in my .config. |
| [17:06:00] | holycow: | guys, what does this mean: --> Also be absolutely sure you're loading the msp3400.o in the driver directory and not the system one under /lib/modules/... |
| [17:07:00] | holycow: | where are your msp3400.ko files located? im running ubuntu and 2.6 kernel of course |
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| [17:31:00] | ** holycow does the happy dance ** | |
| [17:31:00] | holycow: | well got it mostly workin |
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| [17:34:00] | juski: | laga and levon... all this time I was cursing that my code changes weren't making any difference – I forgot to do make install! |
| [17:35:00] | ** juski swears profusely!!! ** | |
| [17:35:00] | laga: | hehehehe |
| [17:36:00] | juski: | I commented out all the epg grabbing code... compiled.. it was still grabbing... |
| [17:37:00] | juski: | that shoulda told me something... ahhh us noobs eh |
| [17:37:00] | laga: | *snicker* |
| [17:40:00] | juski: | wooo! |
| [17:41:00] | juski: | I'm getting my debug out now, meaning it's skipping the epg grabbing |
| [17:41:00] | laga: | my diskless client is booting. whoopee. and it's trying to mount a raid 1.. i should pay more attention to my initrds :) |
| [17:41:00] | laga: | juski: nice |
| [17:42:00] | juski: | right, so if I do a mythfilldatabase & leave the backend running it **shouldn't** over-write the data |
| [17:42:00] | juski: | laga: cool! |
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| [17:51:00] | juski: | right... maybe I'm using the wrong variable... it's skipping all of them |
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| [18:02:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, a 850mhz cpu is just bairly enough for a frontend |
| [18:03:00] | PatrickDK: | unless I use the pvr350's output |
| [18:03:00] | juski: | or XvMC ;) |
| [18:03:00] | PatrickDK: | I guess i need to figure out how to turn on XvMC support than |
| [18:04:00] | PatrickDK: | actually, it's the deinterlace filters that use up 30% of the cpu |
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| [18:31:00] | PatrickDK: | ah, have to compile mythtv with xvmc flag set |
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| [18:37:00] | guitar256: | hey all, I've gotten to the point in jarod's how-to where /usr/bin/irw is run, however i'm not getting any output....everything has gone smoothly, and I think the services are up and running, any suggestions? |
| [18:41:00] | guitar256: | Also, ivtv isn't getting loaded when booting, i'm pretty sure this is related |
| [18:42:00] | PatrickDK: | ya, you need ivtv loaded |
| [18:46:00] | guitar256: | i added all the lines into modprobe.conf and it's still not loading up on its own |
| [18:47:00] | MrSpiffy: | guitar256, the items in modprobe.conf get loaded with those options when a program runs that requires them |
| [18:48:00] | MrSpiffy: | guitar256, so if you want to load the ivtv module at startup put it in your rc.local file "modprobe module options" |
| [18:48:00] | guitar256: | well mythbackend loads up, which needs them, but fails cause ivtv isn't loaded |
| [18:48:00] | guitar256: | so it's not calling modprobe.conf |
| [18:49:00] | guitar256: | however, modprobe.conf has my nvidia info in it, which is getting loaded |
| [18:49:00] | MrSpiffy: | nope – that's a config file for the modules that are loaded when something else needs tham |
| [18:49:00] | guitar256: | and, i did try putting stuff in rc.local, and compy wouldn't boot |
| [18:50:00] | MrSpiffy: | for instance – if you type modprobe ivtv on command line, modprobe.conf will be consulted to check for options |
| [18:50:00] | MrSpiffy: | gahead – try it |
| [18:50:00] | guitar256: | i'm aware, it does work |
| [18:50:00] | guitar256: | when i tried sticking /sbin/modprove ivtv into rc.local |
| [18:50:00] | guitar256: | mythbackend froze when trying to boot |
| [18:51:00] | guitar256: | modprobe* |
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| [18:51:00] | MrSpiffy: | hmm |
| [18:51:00] | MrSpiffy: | mythbackend should have loaded ivtv module when started as it uses it to record. |
| [18:52:00] | MrSpiffy: | what distrib are you running? |
| [18:52:00] | guitar256: | fc4 |
| [18:52:00] | MrSpiffy: | ok |
| [18:52:00] | MrSpiffy: | let's try this one step at a time |
| [18:52:00] | MrSpiffy: | first, stop mythbackend |
| [18:52:00] | MrSpiffy: | /etc/init.s/mythbackend stop |
| [18:52:00] | MrSpiffy: | /etc/init.d/mythbackend stop |
| [18:52:00] | guitar256: | i'm trying modprobe in rc.local again |
| [18:52:00] | guitar256: | hold on, rebooting |
| [18:52:00] | MrSpiffy: | one sec man – try it from command line first so we can see what's happening |
| [18:52:00] | MrSpiffy: | *sigh* |
| [18:52:00] | MrSpiffy: | ok |
| [18:56:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, people are used to windows |
| [18:56:00] | PatrickDK: | you have to reboot every time :) |
| [18:56:00] | MrSpiffy: | yeah |
| [18:56:00] | MrSpiffy: | trained |
| [18:56:00] | guitar256: | hey, be nice :( i'm trying |
| [18:56:00] | guitar256: | allright, that worked this time, however..../usr/bin/irw is now giving me "connection refused" |
| [18:57:00] | MrSpiffy: | guitar256, did mythbackend start ok also ? |
| [18:57:00] | PatrickDK: | you don't have lircd setup right than probably |
| [18:57:00] | guitar256: | well, no cause i forgot to set it to do that, but once i manually started it it started fine |
| [18:57:00] | guitar256: | ...just gotta check that box |
| [18:57:00] | MrSpiffy: | ok |
| [18:57:00] | MrSpiffy: | start the lirc daemon |
| [18:57:00] | MrSpiffy: | /etc/init.d/lirc start |
| [18:58:00] | MrSpiffy: | is that right? I don;t have one... |
| [18:58:00] | guitar256: | ...that *is* set to start |
| [18:58:00] | MrSpiffy: | but did it |
| [18:58:00] | MrSpiffy: | that's the q |
| [18:58:00] | PatrickDK: | I start lircd with /usr/local/sbin/lircd -d /dev/lirc0 |
| [18:58:00] | PatrickDK: | after I modprobe lirc_i2c |
| [18:58:00] | guitar256: | k, hang on, i'm in system-config-services |
| [18:59:00] | guitar256: | and i restarted it, then ran irw, except it kills lircd |
| [18:59:00] | PatrickDK: | that is cause lircd isn't setup right |
| [18:59:00] | PatrickDK: | run the lircd command I pasted |
| [18:59:00] | guitar256: | obviously? |
| [19:00:00] | guitar256: | kk |
| [19:00:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, I need a faster development machine |
| [19:01:00] | MrSpiffy: | I need to clean the old host names out of the mythconverg db |
| [19:01:00] | MrSpiffy: | it's confusing me – trying to change the key binding on pg-up and pg-down |
| [19:01:00] | MrSpiffy: | myth default is backwards in my opinion |
| [19:01:00] | PatrickDK: | ya |
| [19:01:00] | PatrickDK: | I totally changed mine around |
| [19:01:00] | MrSpiffy: | as in page UP should be Forward |
| [19:02:00] | MrSpiffy: | just like mplayer |
| [19:02:00] | MrSpiffy: | bu that's me |
| [19:02:00] | PatrickDK: | I have no idea what pageup is set to |
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| [19:02:00] | PatrickDK: | I think it's set to channel+ |
| [19:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | I disaggree. I reconfigured mplayer to match myth |
| [19:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | :) |
| [19:02:00] | PatrickDK: | on mine |
| [19:02:00] | MrSpiffy: | it's set to jump back and rewind |
| [19:02:00] | PatrickDK: | but then, I only use it on the remote |
| [19:02:00] | MrSpiffy: | hehe GreyFoxx |
| [19:02:00] | MrSpiffy: | I hit the wrong key every time |
| [19:03:00] | MrSpiffy: | hence the binding change |
| [19:04:00] | guitar256: | PatrickDK, in fc4 that command doesn't work, do you want me to just restart lircd in system-config-services? |
| [19:04:00] | PatrickDK: | I dunno, I distrust gui's |
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| [19:05:00] | guitar256: | allright well lemme find the command |
| [19:05:00] | Cairan: | anyone has strange problems trying to use nuvexport? like: dies with a perl error about a divide by 0? |
| [19:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cairan: known problem. Will be fixed |
| [19:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | fails on single recordings of a title, works if you have multiple |
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| [19:06:00] | guitar256: | . /sbin/service lircd start ...sound about right? |
| [19:06:00] | Cairan: | hmmm.. ok so, how would I go about to export my recordings without it crashing? |
| [19:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | until it's fixed ? *shrug* |
| [19:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or recorded another episode of the same show therefore making multiple of that title |
| [19:07:00] | Cairan: | ah ok, so there's no workaround... :-( |
| [19:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | I just gave you one |
| [19:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's just and ugly one :) |
| [19:08:00] | Cairan: | lollllll |
| [19:08:00] | guitar256: | GreyFoxx, do u have a website w/ your files on it? I got an updated remote driver from you a while back....just wondering if you've changed/updated it recently |
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| [19:08:00] | Cairan: | yeah, but it's not feasible for -past- shows :-P |
| [19:08:00] | MrSpiffy: | hmm that's odd – I swapped the keybinding in the db but it didn;t take effect on the frontend |
| [19:08:00] | MrSpiffy: | hm.... |
| [19:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | guitair: Nothing has changed in the driver for months. I have had no reason to touch it |
| [19:09:00] | guitar256: | k |
| [19:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | but if you want another copy of the same one it's www.phaze.org/mythtv/ati_remote.c |
| [19:09:00] | Cairan: | of course I could always use transcode with a pipe and mencoder... |
| [19:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | What kind fo recording? mpeg4/rtjpeg or mpeg2 ? |
| [19:09:00] | MrSpiffy: | ah that's better |
| [19:10:00] | guitar256: | i still have it, but still don't know how to use it :( |
| [19:10:00] | Cairan: | anyway, thanks GreyFoxx ... |
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| [19:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | guitar256: It nees to be placed in your kernel source, compiled and moved/installed to the modules directory and loaded |
| [19:11:00] | guitar256: | yea, no idea, but that's ok...i'll get to it eventually |
| [19:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you don;t know how to do those first couple steps then you have some reading to do :) |
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| [19:13:00] | MrSpiffy: | gotta love compiling kernels/mods |
| [19:13:00] | MrSpiffy: | takes about a day |
| [19:13:00] | MrSpiffy: | nice to have a hobby |
| [19:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | hardly |
| [19:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | from scratch it takes about 20–40 minutes on my slow machine |
| [19:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | if I'm JUST addding a module, maybe 5 |
| [19:13:00] | MrSpiffy: | well that's a dog day isn;t it? |
| [19:13:00] | MrSpiffy: | as in dog years |
| [19:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's not like you have to sit there waiting for it to finish:) |
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| [19:14:00] | MrSpiffy: | seriously – my kernel for a 1G machine took a really long time |
| [19:14:00] | MrSpiffy: | perhaps I am impatient |
| [19:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | My 650 compiles a fresh kernel from scratch in I think 20–25 minutes last I timed it (though that was a 2.4 kernel) |
| [19:15:00] | MrSpiffy: | 2.6.11 |
| [19:15:00] | MrSpiffy: | and I took out the pcmcia, isdn, frame relay, etc |
| [19:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | the 450 I've got running my pbx takes around 40 minutes from scratch |
| [19:15:00] | MrSpiffy: | but left in a whole bunch of modules I didn;t need – hence the long time |
| [19:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | but just making changes or adding modules is significantly faster |
| [19:16:00] | MrSpiffy: | tue dat |
| [19:16:00] | MrSpiffy: | you start with make oldconfig? |
| [19:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | no. I just don't delete the source after installing |
| [19:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | then I just go back into the directory and run make menuconfig, make my changes and recompile |
| [19:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | I keep a copy of .config in a safe place incase I have to do it from scratch, like new kernel versions or something |
| [19:17:00] | MrSpiffy: | cool |
| [19:17:00] | guitar256: | ok....ivtv is loading up on its own, but lircd is not loading up and/or isn't configured correctly : services says status is: lircd dead but subsys locked |
| [19:19:00] | ** NightBird needs to get something installed so that he can transcode files... ** | |
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| [19:21:00] | redfox: | does anybody know how to disable dmix in alsa? |
| [19:21:00] | redfox: | I think it is causing problems with xine |
| [19:22:00] | ** NightBird goes and makes lunch ** | |
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| [19:41:00] | guitar256: | ok...found a good guide, trying to find/download my kernel source, all the mirrors have 2.6.11–1.1369_FC4.src.rpm ...and the kernel i'm using is *1.1447* I can't seem to find that source anywhere (i've tried a couple mirrors) |
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| [20:02:00] | MrSpiffy: | guitar256, you still here? |
| [20:02:00] | MrSpiffy: | I usually use rpm.pbone.net |
| [20:03:00] | guitar256: | yea i got it...about to start my first kernel compile....haha |
| [20:04:00] | ** guitar256 watches computer blow up ** | |
| [20:10:00] | juski: | nah guitar – you watch for it not booting up ;-) |
| [20:13:00] | juski: | right I give up with this code – I'm off out on the beer |
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| [20:35:00] | redfox: | is mplayer or xine better for dvds in myth? |
| [20:35:00] | redfox: | or something else entirely? |
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| [20:35:00] | laga: | xine, because mplayer doesnt support DVDs |
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| [20:36:00] | laga: | err |
| [20:36:00] | laga: | DVD menus |
| [20:36:00] | joseronnick: | anyone here from the US? |
| [20:36:00] | redfox: | yeah that is what I've noticed... but I can't get surround sound to work in xine |
| [20:36:00] | redfox: | joseronnick, yea |
| [20:36:00] | joseronnick: | do you use zap2it's datadirect service for listings? |
| [20:37:00] | redfox: | although for that matter, mplayer surround doesn't seem to be correct either |
| [20:37:00] | redfox: | joseronnick, yeah |
| [20:37:00] | joseronnick: | it always fails for me |
| [20:37:00] | redfox: | what fails? |
| [20:38:00] | joseronnick: | mythfilldatabase.. but mainly the wget.. |
| [20:38:00] | joseronnick: | Grabbing data for Sat Sep 17 2005 offset 1 |
| [20:38:00] | joseronnick: | From : Sun Sep 18 07:00:00 2005 To : Mon Sep 19 07:00:00 2005 (UTC) |
| [20:38:00] | joseronnick: | --11:36:52-- http://datadirect.webservices.zap2it.com/tvlistings/xtvdService |
| [20:38:00] | joseronnick: | => `-' |
| [20:38:00] | joseronnick: | Resolving datadirect.webservices.zap2it.com... 206.18.98.160 |
| [20:38:00] | joseronnick: | Connecting to datadirect.webservices.zap2it.com[206.18.98.160]:80... connected. |
| [20:38:00] | joseronnick: | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Unauthorized |
| [20:38:00] | redfox: | joseronnick, do you have a zap2it account? |
| [20:38:00] | joseronnick: | yup |
| [20:39:00] | redfox: | did you put in your account info with mythsetup? |
| [20:39:00] | ** joseronnick nods ** | |
| [20:39:00] | joseronnick: | I was just wondering if the service wasn't working or something... |
| [20:39:00] | redfox: | well that works for me... I used it last night |
| [20:39:00] | joseronnick: | is your username like.. username@something? |
| [20:39:00] | redfox: | maybe try to log on to their website to make sure it works |
| [20:39:00] | joseronnick: | I did, and I can log-in |
| [20:41:00] | redfox: | did you setup your zap2it accound with your region and cable info? |
| [20:42:00] | joseronnick: | yeah.. but also.. in the mythsetup screen.. when I click get lineups or whatever.. it just tries to do something.. and then the listbox (where I assume a list of your lineups comes up) is always blank |
| [20:43:00] | redfox: | hmm I'm not sure... I'm still setting up my myth box as well, but mythfilldatabase works fine for me |
| [20:44:00] | joseronnick: | hmm.. okay.. thanks for the confirmation... I'm gonna try messing w/ the perl scripts from zap2it |
| [20:45:00] | redfox: | alright good luck... sorry I'm not more help |
| [20:45:00] | redfox: | I would guess it has to be a user/password issue |
| [20:45:00] | joseronnick: | just knowing that it's working for someone else is really helpful actually |
| [20:46:00] | redfox: | yeah I didn't have any real issues with that part... I've been following the guide on www.gentoo-wiki.com |
| [20:46:00] | joseronnick: | oh yeah.. nice.. me too.. and some stuff on the forums.. |
| [20:46:00] | joseronnick: | what kinda capture care do you have? |
| [20:46:00] | redfox: | pvr 150 |
| [20:47:00] | joseronnick: | cool.. I'm using a pvr 500 |
| [20:47:00] | redfox: | nice |
| [20:57:00] | qfx: | redfox. can you help me get my pvr 150 working? |
| [20:57:00] | redfox: | qfx, possibly |
| [20:57:00] | redfox: | to get mine to work, I used the latest ivtv from ivtv.tv |
| [20:57:00] | qfx: | did you recompile it from CVS? |
| [20:57:00] | guitar256: | ok ok, kernel compiled, now the guide is saying i need to use the *exact same* nvidia driver......well I yum installed it, where does yum deposite the pkg so that i can use it? |
| [20:58:00] | redfox: | no just got the latest version |
| [20:58:00] | qfx: | I used atrpms to get it for my box, but I'm willing to give a compile a shot |
| [20:58:00] | redfox: | I used 0.3.9 |
| [20:58:00] | qfx: | From ivtv.tv? |
| [20:58:00] | redfox: | yeah under unstable releases |
| [20:59:00] | redfox: | the current version in gentoo didn't work for my card either, so I had to download and install it from there |
| [20:59:00] | joseronnick: | yeah, me too.. 0.3.9 |
| [20:59:00] | joseronnick: | just cat /doc/quickstart |
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| [21:00:00] | qfx: | redfox do I do a 'make -configure'? |
| [21:00:00] | qfx: | thanks joseronnick |
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| [21:01:00] | redfox: | qfx, I followed the guide on gentoo-wiki.com |
| [21:01:00] | redfox: | it is pretty good |
| [21:01:00] | rben: | hi, what is the best program to use for editing the MythTV mpeg-2 files, so that I can put them in DVDs I can watch later? |
| [21:02:00] | qfx: | would it work with Fedora though redfox? |
| [21:02:00] | redfox: | yeah they talk about building from source |
| [21:02:00] | qfx: | OK, thanks |
| [21:03:00] | qfx: | This channel is WAY more useful than the ivtv channel :) |
| [21:04:00] | joseronnick: | redfox: do you know if mythtv stores the username/password (for getting listings) in the DB? or a flatfile somewhere? |
| [21:04:00] | rben: | anyone ever edit the mpeg-2 files |
| [21:04:00] | redfox: | joseronnick, I honestly don't know... leme look around |
| [21:04:00] | redfox: | I didn't see it in any config files anywhere |
| [21:04:00] | G-funk|laptop: | db |
| [21:04:00] | redfox: | so my guess is theh database |
| [21:05:00] | rben: | I just want to cut out the commercials and burn them to DVD |
| [21:05:00] | sandos: | are there sample clips on the web from pvr-150/500 with a good analog signal source, and encoded with with divx/xvid or something at high enough bitrate to see the quality? |
| [21:05:00] | qfx: | rben I've used a program called Virtuadub under windows. I'm just moving into linux now |
| [21:06:00] | rben: | windows is fine, that's where I have the file at the moment |
| [21:06:00] | joseronnick: | yeah, I think it's there too.. digging around.. |
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| [21:06:00] | rben: | qfx, got a url? |
| [21:07:00] | qfx: | make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12–1.1447_FC4/build: No such file or directory. |
| [21:07:00] | qfx: | I get that error when I do a "make install" |
| [21:07:00] | qfx: | ? |
| [21:08:00] | rben: | qfx, looking at Virtualdub's page, it seems it only works with AVI and mpeg-1 files |
| [21:08:00] | qfx: | rben http://www.virtualdub.org/ |
| [21:08:00] | qfx: | oh really? |
| [21:08:00] | qfx: | Ummm... I've def' used it with mpeg 4 |
| [21:09:00] | rben: | huh, maybe the intro on the page hasn't been updated |
| [21:09:00] | qfx: | sorry rben, it's been a while since I did this stuff, it might be i'm out to lunch |
| [21:10:00] | rben: | I'll download it and try it |
| [21:10:00] | rben: | might do the trick |
| [21:10:00] | rben: | the stuff I found already requires that I convert to AVI, and that is taking FOREVER |
| [21:10:00] | rben: | about 2% per hour |
| [21:11:00] | joseronnick: | qfx: you are prob missing something in your kernel |
| [21:11:00] | joseronnick: | that file should be a symlink to your kernel source |
| [21:11:00] | qfx: | Probably like the source |
| [21:12:00] | joseronnick: | yeah |
| [21:12:00] | qfx: | OK, I'll check that out. Thanks joseronnick |
| [21:12:00] | joseronnick: | np |
| [21:12:00] | qfx: | I gotta go play some Ulti now, but hopefully you guys are around later! I've made more progress in the last 30 mins than the previous 5 days! |
| [21:12:00] | redfox: | qfx, haha stick in there |
| [21:13:00] | guitar256: | is 'make modules_install' gonna take as long as 'make all' ? what about 'make install' (should i go get food?) |
| [21:13:00] | qfx: | I really want to get myth set up. I have a modded xbox and there's a frontend for that, so it would be absolutely stellar for me |
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| [21:13:00] | redfox: | guitar256, modules_install goes pretty fast |
| [21:13:00] | rben: | qfx, it won't open mpeg-2, but perhaps after I transcode it will work for me |
| [21:13:00] | redfox: | install just copies some files over, you can do it by hand if you want |
| [21:13:00] | rben: | I've got the myth box doing the transcoding now |
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| [21:14:00] | guitar256: | why would i want to do it by hand?.....i'd really like "install mythtv" to work, but i guess we're not there yet :( |
| [21:14:00] | redfox: | oh sorry... when you said install_modules I thought you were building a kernel ;-) |
| [21:14:00] | redfox: | yeah just do make install |
| [21:15:00] | guitar256: | i am doing a kernel |
| [21:15:00] | redfox: | ah ok jeez |
| [21:15:00] | guitar256: | oh and, the guide mentions something about having to install the nvidia drivers before reboot, couldn't i just reboot and then yum install them again? |
| [21:15:00] | redfox: | I do the make install by hand, but make install works for most people |
| [21:16:00] | redfox: | you can reboot and reinstall the drivers, but x might not load |
| [21:16:00] | guitar256: | but yum is all command prompt wonderfulness so, just yum install nvidia..., and reboot ought to work? |
| [21:17:00] | redfox: | yeah you should be good to go |
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| [21:20:00] | rben: | thanks for the help ! |
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| [21:21:00] | iceman: | Hi, am running my mythbackend and frontend over a 54Mbit wifi link, yet it often jerks when "Watching a previously recorded show" |
| [21:21:00] | epoch: | heh |
| [21:21:00] | epoch: | same with me |
| [21:21:00] | epoch: | welcome to 54mbit ;) |
| [21:21:00] | iceman: | any idea how i can tweak it? |
| [21:21:00] | epoch: | (hint: you're not really getting 54mbits) |
| [21:22:00] | epoch: | yeah, buy a cable ;P |
| [21:22:00] | iceman: | aaarrh! cable limits application scenarios |
| [21:23:00] | iceman: | surely there must be a plan to compress the traffic somewhat? |
| [21:23:00] | guitar256: | turn down the recording resolution' |
| [21:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | 54megabit is far more than enough for streaming a show or 2. The problem is you are likely not getting a clean 54megabit |
| [21:24:00] | DonLKSAB: | Eyyy GreyFoxx :-) |
| [21:24:00] | iceman: | guitar256: thats a thought... |
| [21:24:00] | ** guitar256 racks one up for the noobs ** | |
| [21:24:00] | DonLKSAB: | It dident work to change primary display yesterday :-( |
| [21:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | the bitrate controls data size, not resolution :) |
| [21:25:00] | DonLKSAB: | I kept on trying all night :-) |
| [21:25:00] | iceman: | haven't noticed any bitrate settings yet? |
| [21:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | DonLKSAB: I know it's doable. I've done it |
| [21:25:00] | DonLKSAB: | Yeah |
| [21:25:00] | DonLKSAB: | Im reading around |
| [21:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | icewm if you have an old software card I don';t remember the specific name of the settings |
| [21:27:00] | ** GreyFoxx has to run ** | |
| [21:27:00] | xris: | GreyFoxx: so I'm finally upgrading myth... hopefully that'll mean I can fix some nuvexport bugs. |
| [21:30:00] | guitar256: | Okkay...I've booted into the new kernel, nvidia drivers don't work, yum won't install them, so i'm downloading nvidia_driver_7667_pkg1.run and i'm about to sh it....is it okay to do this while i'm in the new kernel, or should i reboot into the old kernel and do it? |
| [21:31:00] | redfox: | guitar256, no you want to be in the new kernel |
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| [21:38:00] | guitar256: | yay |
| [21:40:00] | redfox: | guitar256, get it to work? |
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| [21:49:00] | guitar256: | redfox kernel up, and nvidia drivers installed and working...tweaking resolution settings now |
| [21:50:00] | simcop2387: | there's a 5 second delay between changing channels with my pvr150mce, anyone else have this issue? |
| [21:50:00] | guitar256: | GreyFoxx, so I think i've gotten the first couple steps done, got the kernel source, swapped out the ati_remote.c and compiled, and gotten it up and running..........now what?! |
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| [21:55:00] | xris: | great. upgrade svn, broken myth. |
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| [21:59:00] | guitar256: | . /sbin/modprobe ivtv FATAL: module ivtv not found......i'm guessing this is bad....was i suppose to add the ivtv driver before compiling the kernel since I'm doing it this way now? |
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| [22:02:00] | xris: | ok, it works now. weird. |
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| [22:05:00] | Chutt: | xris, hey, is changing mythweb to send the proper pathname for the generate pixmap stuff hard? |
| [22:06:00] | xris: | probably not |
| [22:06:00] | xris: | I just upgraded svn about 5 minutes ago. |
| [22:06:00] | xris: | should be able to get to it tonight, I think |
| [22:06:00] | xris: | I have nuvexport and mythlink fixes to do, too |
| [22:06:00] | Chutt: | cool. |
| [22:07:00] | xris: | now I want to figure out how to get mythmusic to integrate with amarok's cover-art database. heh. |
| [22:08:00] | xris: | man, mythvideo really annoys me at times... it imports all of my stuff, but since it has no info for them, I get a list of blank entries.... |
| [22:09:00] | guitar256: | what is svn? |
| [22:10:00] | epoch: | subversion |
| [22:10:00] | epoch: | like cvs, 'cept better |
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| [22:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | man people suck |
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| [22:11:00] | ** GreyFoxx sents out hate and disgust to all the lawsuit happy slime out there ** | |
| [22:11:00] | xris: | oh, and now I get a bunch of sql errors when pulling up videos. |
| [22:11:00] | xris: | wonder if I delete the mythvideo tables if they'll get recreated? |
| [22:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | xris: repopulated, but not recreated |
| [22:12:00] | xris: | can you tell me what kind of data "childid" is in videometadata? |
| [22:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | not offhand no |
| [22:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | hold on |
| [22:12:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | int(11) |
| [22:12:00] | xris: | DESCRIBE ..... |
| [22:12:00] | xris: | Captain_Murdoch: thanks |
| [22:13:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | default -1 |
| [22:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | I was just logging in to do that :) |
| [22:13:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | :) I keep a sql window open to my dev DB |
| [22:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/videometadata.sql |
| [22:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | I put that up for someone the other day :) |
| [22:13:00] | xris: | ok, MAN that makes a ton of difference |
| [22:13:00] | xris: | filenames load properly, etc. |
| [22:14:00] | xris: | now I'll let it scan my music. all 100G of it. over the network. that'll take forever. |
| [22:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | 100G ? Damn |
| [22:15:00] | xris: | actually, probably not that much. I have a ton of old radio shows and audio books that I pulled out of my main music folder. |
| [22:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythtv@woop:/data/mp3$ du -sh |
| [22:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | 17G . |
| [22:15:00] | xris: | plus a lot of high-quality ogg files. |
| [22:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [22:15:00] | xris: | 87G.. heh |
| [22:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | Most of what I have belongs to my GF. 5 of it is from me |
| [22:15:00] | ** xris has been a music pirate for a LONG time... ** | |
| [22:16:00] | xris: | mostly because a large portion of the stuff I like isn't available in the US. |
| [22:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have never deleted a simple mp3 I've downloaded since '97 :) |
| [22:16:00] | Krazylegz: | Good. Do you have the new Nickelback and Disturbed? :-) |
| [22:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | But Most of what I have on there is rips of her CD's |
| [22:16:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: I don't even know who/what that is. |
| [22:16:00] | Krazylegz: | That's good. |
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| [22:17:00] | ** laga is getting really close to having a diskless frontend ** | |
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| [22:18:00] | laga: | RPC: failed to contact portmap |
| [22:18:00] | laga: | never mind then ;) |
| [22:20:00] | xris: | ok, mythmusic is now scanning.. forever. |
| [22:21:00] | xris: | great. f'd up mythmusic tables, too |
| [22:22:00] | guitar256: | GreyFoxx: you there? |
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| [22:43:00] | Bio: | Since I blew up my myth box last night, I'm just going to rebuild it. I want to set it up with 2 hard drives. 1 for TV and the other for myth and music/videos. Is there anything I need to know before I do this? |
| [22:43:00] | laga: | ' |
| [22:43:00] | laga: | err |
| [22:44:00] | laga: | i'd recommend that you give the OS its own partition |
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| [22:44:00] | Bio: | I suppose I can just mount the TV drive to /myth/tv |
| [22:44:00] | sandos: | Bio: how exactly did you "blow it up"? |
| [22:44:00] | sandos: | :) |
| [22:45:00] | Bio: | I dropped the mythconverg database. |
| [22:47:00] | guitar256: | i'm pretty sure that can be rebuilt |
| [22:48:00] | Bio: | Yes, but I lost all my data. |
| [22:49:00] | Bio: | My myth box was getting kinda funky anyway so I'm just going to rebuild it. |
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| [22:54:00] | sandos: | I thought you meant literally, or atleast that some hw was damaged. Ah well :) |
| [22:54:00] | Bio: | my DVD player is broken :) |
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| [22:56:00] | jhoke: | 'afternoon |
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| [23:06:00] | enthalpyX: | Hey, does anyone know what config file or DB table the offset for getting TV listings is stored? |
| [23:06:00] | enthalpyX: | I've got the appropriate offset set in mythtv-setup, but all the channel listings seem to be GMT. |
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| [23:07:00] | st0rmy: | i cannot get pinnacle pctv pro's remote to work with mythtv, can anyone help me? |
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| [23:11:00] | Bio: | I can't get that remote to work either. |
| [23:11:00] | Bio: | It really depends on which one you have. |
| [23:17:00] | BoBotheClown: | hello group |
| [23:17:00] | BoBotheClown: | a question |
| [23:18:00] | st0rmy: | Bio, pctv pro |
| [23:18:00] | BoBotheClown: | I have myth set up and all is working well |
| [23:18:00] | BoBotheClown: | I would like to pipe s-ideo out of my cable box and into my pvr350 |
| [23:18:00] | joat: | enthalpy, I have the same problem with listings |
| [23:19:00] | joat: | so if you find a solution, let me know :D |
| [23:19:00] | BoBotheClown: | but the only way I know to capture video that way is to change ivtv to 6 |
| [23:19:00] | joat: | I'm about ready to change my system clock from UTC to my local time |
| [23:19:00] | BoBotheClown: | the cat /dev/video > file.mpg |
| [23:19:00] | enthalpyX: | joat: that's what I just tried |
| [23:19:00] | BoBotheClown: | can myth capture that data? |
| [23:19:00] | enthalpyX: | joat: refreshing TV listings now |
| [23:24:00] | joat: | any joy? |
| [23:25:00] | cosmo_: | what kind of playback performance can I expect to get out of a 1ghz box with 150mb ram and a geforce card? |
| [23:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | Assuming you aren' ttrying to play hdtv that should be fine |
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| [23:26:00] | joat: | make sure you have DMA enabled on your drives. I was getting skipping on a amd64 3000 until I enabled it |
| [23:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | cosmo_: is that just a frontend or a backend as well? |
| [23:26:00] | joat: | now it's silky smooth |
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| [23:28:00] | cosmo_: | just frontend |
| [23:29:00] | jhoke: | Heyas... dumb documentation question... where are all the various settings in the Recording Profile/transcoding profile documented? |
| [23:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | jhoke: I don't think there is specific documentation for them |
| [23:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | at least tnothing I've noticed |
| [23:30:00] | jhoke: | I have a PVR250 and trying to set up two different profiles (damn good quality and ok... ) |
| [23:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | probably something on someones wiki somehwere |
| [23:30:00] | jhoke: | Grey... that's what I figured;.. just wanted to make sure I wasn't losing my mind :) |
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| [23:31:00] | jhoke: | I have everything running fairly well on a FC4 based box, but once I get comfy with Myth I will be buying a new system to install it on... its been about 3 years since I built a box lol |
| [23:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | fun stuff |
| [23:32:00] | jhoke: | The beauty of Linux ... things work ...no neeed to upgrade... its also a curse I guess... haven'[t had to look at MoBo;s CPUs etc in years |
| [23:33:00] | jhoke: | In a FE/BE config, the capture cards (hdtv and pvr's) go in the BE right? So the BE needs to be fairly beefy.. but the FE can be a bit less? I am thinking of running the FE off a diskless box for cooling/sound just want to make sure I grok it right |
| [23:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | the be only needs to be beefy if you go with cheaper framegrabber cards |
| [23:34:00] | jhoke: | I thought HDTV ike the 3000 needed a bit more CPU |
| [23:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | if you get cards with hardware compression (or are using hdtv stuff) then the cpu doesn't need todo much work |
| [23:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | that;s playback |
| [23:34:00] | jhoke: | Ah.. FE... k |
| [23:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | but you can still do diskless FE's :) |
| [23:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | jhoke: If you capture standard cable with the hdtv3000 it uses software compression., If you use it to grab ASTC HDTV the stuff is already mpeg2 as it comes in |
| [23:35:00] | jhoke: | I plan on the BE being in the basement ... (building a house now) connected by gigabit ether to the rest of the network. BE will basically just be a box wiht lotsa disks and capture cards |
| [23:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | jhoke: yup, that's how many do it when they have multiple FE's |
| [23:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've got a machine in my basement that stores all media/captures and 4 diskless frontends around the house for playback |
| [23:37:00] | jhoke: | Grey: Thanks, so If i just use the 3000 for over the air HDTV and keep my pvr250 (or get a 500) for cable then the CPU is not all that intense, but the FE for playback of HD will be cpu heavy? |
| [23:37:00] | jhoke: | Grey: Exactly the setup I am looking at (multi FE) |
| [23:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [23:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use 3 PC based frontends and 1 MediaMVP |
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| [23:38:00] | jhoke: | Then one last dumb question I am trying to grok... if my Cable provider has STB with Firewire outs, then I do not need the PVRs anymore (and maybe not hte3000 either?) |
| [23:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | All playing standard cable though. No over the air HDTV here :/ |
| [23:39:00] | jhoke: | Like I said,I am building a house and moving, so I do not yet know what the monopoly will give me in the new area |
| [23:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | jhoke: IF the port is enabled you can capture from it . BUT they can disable it, and in some cases make it lower the video down to standard resolutions |
| [23:39:00] | jhoke: | thnx |
| [23:40:00] | jhoke: | worth trying before buying more cards :) |
| [23:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah , for sure |
| [23:41:00] | guitar256: | GreyFoxx: I compiled the kernel w/ your ati_remote in it.....can I continue using my existing kernel just swapping out the new ati_remote.ko for the old one? |
| [23:41:00] | jhoke: | thanks! I think I have the essentialls groked ... I have an AMD64 laying around that I will use for the diskless FE and get a silverstone case for it :) the BE will just stay in the ugly ass box it is in .. large, plenty of HD bays |
| [23:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | guitar256: Assuming you used the same kernel version and all that you likely can |
| [23:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | jhoke: I'm drolling over the silverstone lc16m |
| [23:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | guitar256: I assume you are using a Niveus remote, or a OneBoxMC remote ? |
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| [23:43:00] | guitar256: | niveus yea |
| [23:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | I saw you talking about lirc earlier so I assumed you were using that |
| [23:43:00] | enthalpyX: | joat: changing my local tz worked |
| [23:43:00] | guitar256: | nah, i was trying to get that working, it's not working out |
| [23:44:00] | enthalpyX: | joat: using tzconfig & date -s |
| [23:44:00] | joat: | local tz, or system clock tz? |
| [23:44:00] | jhoke: | Grey: I dont like the center DVD bay :( was thinkint the 10-M or the 14M |
| [23:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | Using the modified ati_Remote driver you need to be sure to load the ati_Remote with lolatype=1 |
| [23:44:00] | joat: | date -s shows my time as EST, correctly |
| [23:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | jhoke: I want the knob+ control buttons |
| [23:44:00] | joat: | the osd inside myth shows the system time, not the EST time |
| [23:44:00] | joat: | it's ignoring the timezone symlink |
| [23:45:00] | guitar256: | i'm not sure what do do after 'modprobe ati_remote lolatype=1' |
| [23:45:00] | enthalpyX: | joat: hmm |
| [23:45:00] | jhoke: | Grey: gotcha ... what I am really drooling over is the 18 with the touchscreen... Wife woudl kill me though :) |
| [23:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | at that point it should be ready to use |
| [23:45:00] | guitar256: | but i'll get to that later, i got somethin else going on, somethin w/ ivtv not loading and causing the frontend and/or backend to freeze |
| [23:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | jhoke: I don't like having a screen on the system, but it does have the cool factor |
| [23:46:00] | jhoke: | Ok, time to go actually poke around the settings... try to find some wiki guides to them ... hell, if I ever figure them out I may doc'em |
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| [23:47:00] | jhoke: | Thanks again for your ear Grey |
| [23:47:00] | SmokinWeed_420: | http://www.planetbattleground.com/recruit.php?id=273 |
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| [23:48:00] | ** jhoke is away: getting a life... anyone else need one while I'm up? ** | |
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