| Tuesday, September 13th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | Tanthrix: | 2005-09–12 14:59:30.724 nVidiaVideoSync: VBlank ioctl did not work, unimplemented in this driver? |
| [00:00:00] | Tanthrix: | 2005-09–12 14:59:30.725 DRMVideoSync: Could not open device /dev/dri/card0, No such file or directory |
| [00:00:00] | kormoc: | you don't use DRI/DRM with nvidia cards |
| [00:00:00] | Tanthrix: | This is interesting....glxgears causes X to crash as well.... |
| [00:01:00] | ** kormoc points to what he said ** | |
| [00:01:00] | Tanthrix: | I figured that, kormoc, so why is it trying to do that then? |
| [00:01:00] | sphery: | Yeah. Any GL app will crash. |
| [00:01:00] | kormoc: | because it doesn't know better |
| [00:02:00] | Tanthrix: | Well, that's good. Using glxgears for testing is easier than opening mythtv every time...heh |
| [00:02:00] | Tanthrix: | Now, the question is, why would it suddenly start doing this after working fine? What did I/we change? |
| [00:03:00] | kormoc: | update xorg or your xconf or something |
| [00:03:00] | kormoc: | find the lines that have Load "dri" and Load "drm" and remove them from your xorg conf file |
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| [00:03:00] | sphery: | Any chance you have either of these lines in your xorg.conf (or XF86Config): |
| [00:03:00] | sphery: | Load "dri" |
| [00:03:00] | sphery: | Load "GLCore" |
| [00:04:00] | Tanthrix: | neither |
| [00:04:00] | sphery: | Oops. Got scooped.. |
| [00:04:00] | Tanthrix: | Not DRM either. |
| [00:04:00] | kormoc: | ooh? |
| [00:04:00] | Tanthrix: | (And I haven't touched my xconf since this problem began) |
| [00:05:00] | Tanthrix: | Or any time before it for that matter. |
| [00:05:00] | ned: | Tanthrix: Do you have more than one display attached to your card? |
| [00:06:00] | Tanthrix: | No, I ended up putting in an old voodoo3 for the crt |
| [00:06:00] | Tanthrix: | was having trouble making TV out screen 0 to get accelerated features so I decided just to make the geforce4 strictly TV out |
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| [00:07:00] | dcstimm: | I heard 19 is ready to come out soon, is that true? |
| [00:07:00] | dcstimm: | .18 |
| [00:07:00] | dcstimm: | .19 |
| [00:07:00] | dcstimm: | also is it possible to install a ivtv card into a macosx86 machine and use mythtv? |
| [00:08:00] | dcstimm: | haupaugge 250 |
| [00:08:00] | Tanthrix: | http://novae-res.org/output.txt <--My full xorg log. |
| [00:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | dcts: There has been no talking about .19, so I would say it;s not "soon" :) |
| [00:08:00] | dcstimm: | GreyFoxx, no talk, is mythtv dead? |
| [00:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | No, lots of development. Just noone has mentioned doing up a "release" |
| [00:08:00] | Krazylegz: | They're rewriting some large portions, I believe? |
| [00:09:00] | dcstimm: | what good is development if they dont release anything? |
| [00:09:00] | CanadaBoy is now known as CanadaB[a] | |
| [00:09:00] | dcstimm: | users are the testers |
| [00:09:00] | ** kormoc shakes his head. ** | |
| [00:09:00] | Krazylegz: | You can test it by checking it out of SVN. |
| [00:09:00] | Tanthrix: | Get the SVN and stop complaining. |
| [00:09:00] | kormoc: | no, testers are the ones who use subversion to test. |
| [00:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | dcstimm: So what you are saying is that RELEASES are what ;people should be testing ? |
| [00:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | hahah |
| [00:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | if peoplewanna test then run svn |
| [00:10:00] | dcstimm: | GreyFoxx, isnt that how microsoft does it? |
| [00:10:00] | Krazylegz: | Releases shouldn't be heavily tested. |
| [00:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | Who cares how MS does it :) |
| [00:10:00] | kormoc: | dcstimm, if it was MS, you'd be paying for it. |
| [00:10:00] | dcstimm: | hah |
| [00:10:00] | kormoc: | so be glad it's not. |
| [00:10:00] | dcstimm: | kormoc, oh, I see |
| [00:10:00] | Tanthrix: | That's a great idea, give the enduser the buggy, unfinished code.... |
| [00:10:00] | dcstimm: | Tanthrix, but thats how it gets fixed faster |
| [00:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | besides in the end all a release is is someone says "Ok, I delcare this a release". It's just a point in time of the svn |
| [00:10:00] | Krazylegz: | We don't get the code from MS. |
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| [00:11:00] | dcstimm: | any one see the ipod nano? |
| [00:11:00] | kormoc: | dcstimm, if you want to help test and fix bugs, use the subversion code, most people do not want to test, they just want it to work and be stable. |
| [00:11:00] | Tanthrix: | Although, it takes quite a bit of knowledge to get a mythtv box up, so I can see your point. It's not quite the same as AIM or something that is released to millions of people who aren't geeks. |
| [00:11:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh, look what I found: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/mediacenter/default.mspx . |
| [00:11:00] | dcstimm: | do you think we can port Mythtv to that? |
| [00:11:00] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [00:11:00] | dcstimm: | kormoc, ok cool |
| [00:11:00] | burly_ (n=burly@68-235-170-144.chvlva.adelphia.net) Quit ("going down for a couple of hours for upgrades, bbl") | |
| [00:12:00] | ** kormoc thinks dcstimm is a troll. ** | |
| [00:12:00] | dcstimm: | kormoc, i was kidding |
| [00:12:00] | Krazylegz: | Port MythTV to the iPod Nano? |
| [00:12:00] | dcstimm: | gezz |
| [00:12:00] | Krazylegz: | iPod Flea! |
| [00:12:00] | dcstimm: | it has a color screen |
| [00:12:00] | Chutt: | based on how he's acted in the past, he is one |
| [00:12:00] | Tanthrix: | sphery: My xorg log looks pretty clean. Not sure what's causing this. I am happy though that the problem is a video card one and not a TV card. I'm done with TV card problems for today, heh. |
| [00:12:00] | dcstimm: | maybe we can take video and chop it into a million pictures and use the scroll wheel to animate it |
| [00:13:00] | dcstimm: | Chutt, we all want nanos |
| [00:14:00] | Tanthrix: | sphery: It has to be related though, either to whatever I did that caused the driver problem in the first place, or something we did after, though I'm not quite sure what. |
| [00:14:00] | dcstimm: | sphery, nvidia? |
| [00:14:00] | kormoc: | Tanthrix, throw your xorg in pastebin.ca ? |
| [00:14:00] | Tanthrix: | http://novae-res.org/output.txt |
| [00:14:00] | Tanthrix: | kormoc: It's all in there. |
| [00:14:00] | dcstimm: | mandrake? |
| [00:14:00] | kormoc: | Tanthrix, that's not the configure file tho. |
| [00:15:00] | Tanthrix: | Oh, you want the conf. One sec. |
| [00:15:00] | dcstimm: | Tanthrix, are you using dual cpus? or HT? |
| [00:16:00] | sphery: | Tanthrix: Your tdfx is loading DRI |
| [00:16:00] | Tanthrix: | http://novae-res.org/xorg.conf |
| [00:16:00] | sphery: | It's interfering... |
| [00:16:00] | kormoc: | Tanthrix, the TDFX implys DRI/DRM |
| [00:16:00] | dcstimm: | Tanthrix, ? |
| [00:16:00] | Tanthrix: | Interesting, so I have to disable it for the nvidia card to work? |
| [00:17:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [00:17:00] | kormoc: | it should be a driver option |
| [00:17:00] | Tanthrix: | What is DRI/DRM anyway? I don't even know, heh. |
| [00:17:00] | sphery: | Direct Rendering Infrastructure |
| [00:18:00] | sphery: | Direct Rendering Module (?) |
| [00:18:00] | dcstimm: | enables accelleration |
| [00:18:00] | kormoc: | Direct Rendering Manager |
| [00:18:00] | sphery: | Manager(?) |
| [00:18:00] | sphery: | thx, kormoc |
| [00:18:00] | sphery: | didn't sound quite right... |
| [00:18:00] | kormoc: | hehe, yeah |
| [00:18:00] | Tanthrix: | Now, how to disable it... |
| [00:18:00] | kormoc: | well, the trick is |
| [00:18:00] | kormoc: | TDFX is a DRI module. |
| [00:19:00] | sphery: | It's possible it might work with it enabled. |
| [00:19:00] | Tanthrix: | http://www.xfree86.org/4.4.0/tdfx.4.html |
| [00:19:00] | kormoc: | http://www.xfree86.org/4.4.0/tdfx.4.html |
| [00:19:00] | kormoc: | hehe |
| [00:19:00] | Tanthrix: | hehe |
| [00:19:00] | sphery: | But, TDFX is loading DRI, but it's disabling it because of video memory issues. |
| [00:19:00] | kormoc: | you want NoAccel, and DRI Disabled. |
| [00:19:00] | kormoc: | erm, you want NoAccel enabled. |
| [00:20:00] | kormoc: | yeah, with DRI disabled, ti shouldn't even try to load it, in theory |
| [00:20:00] | Tanthrix: | so Option "DRI" "Off" ? |
| [00:20:00] | kormoc: | "False" |
| [00:20:00] | sphery: | I'm thinking loading, but not using it is causing the failure... |
| [00:20:00] | sphery: | (II) TDFX(0): Not enough video memory available for textures and depth buffer and/or back buffer. Disabling DRI. To use DRI try lower resolution modes and/or a smaller virtual screen size |
| [00:20:00] | kormoc: | I'd also change it a little |
| [00:20:00] | kormoc: | Screen "screen2" |
| [00:21:00] | sphery: | Did you change screen res on the voodoo, recently? |
| [00:21:00] | kormoc: | Screen "screen1" LeftOf "screen2" |
| [00:21:00] | kormoc: | to force it to load the nvidia driver/card first |
| [00:21:00] | Tanthrix: | No, haven't changed any xconf stuff at all. |
| [00:21:00] | Tanthrix: | not since I got it working weeks ago. |
| [00:21:00] | sphery: | Hmmm. |
| [00:22:00] | sphery: | Hold on Tanthrix... |
| [00:22:00] | sphery: | Remember the MTRR thing... |
| [00:23:00] | Tanthrix: | The thing you told me was unrelated ;) |
| [00:23:00] | sphery: | Yeah. That one... |
| [00:23:00] | sphery: | The Memory Type Range Registers are used for video memory. |
| [00:23:00] | kormoc: | MTRR must be enabled for Nvidia cards :P |
| [00:23:00] | Tanthrix: | Glxgears is running perfectly now... |
| [00:23:00] | sphery: | You get a lot of messages with them when they're working. |
| [00:23:00] | kormoc: | Tanthrix, yeah? |
| [00:23:00] | Tanthrix: | With NoAccel Enabled and DRI Disabled. |
| [00:23:00] | kormoc: | nice |
| [00:24:00] | Tanthrix: | Although if that's not the root cause of the problem, I'd prefer to fix the mtrr issue |
| [00:24:00] | Tanthrix: | X just locked up. |
| [00:24:00] | sphery: | But, it's possible that the write-combining range failure (which isn't necessarily a problem) may be causing your system to think the card has less memory than it actually does... |
| [00:25:00] | JaZy84: | hey guys i run ubuntu i |
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| [00:25:00] | JaZy84: | 'm trying to install mythtv |
| [00:25:00] | Tanthrix: | Alright, it came out of it. Got funky when I tried to kill glxgears. |
| [00:25:00] | sphery: | What do you get when you say, cat /proc/mtrr |
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| [00:25:00] | Tanthrix: | [root@ragnarok ~]# cat /proc/mtrr |
| [00:25:00] | Tanthrix: | reg00: base=0x00000000 ( 0MB), size= 512MB: write-back, count=1 |
| [00:25:00] | Tanthrix: | reg01: base=0xe0000000 (3584MB), size= 16MB: write-combining, count=1 |
| [00:25:00] | Tanthrix: | reg05: base=0xd0000000 (3328MB), size= 64MB: write-combining, count=1 |
| [00:25:00] | JaZy84: | it lets me run the setup, but is says something about now being able to connect to mysql database any ideas? |
| [00:25:00] | Tanthrix: | The card Geforce4 is a 64 meg card. |
| [00:26:00] | sphery: | How much video ram in the voodoo? |
| [00:26:00] | Tanthrix: | Not sure to be honest. Probably 16 |
| [00:26:00] | PatrickDK: | you can get geforce4 in 128m versions |
| [00:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | v3's are 16Meg cards |
| [00:26:00] | Tanthrix: | This is a crappy Geforce4 MX400 PCI card |
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| [00:27:00] | PatrickDK: | damn, I go through compression fittings fast |
| [00:27:00] | sphery: | It's trying to set up 32MB ram on the voodoo... |
| [00:27:00] | NightMonkey: | JaZy84: Is mysql running? |
| [00:27:00] | Tanthrix: | Mythfrontend isn't bringing down X anymore, so I guess I can work with this. |
| [00:28:00] | Tanthrix: | I'd rather have the problem fixed though, not juryrigged |
| [00:28:00] | Tanthrix: | GreyFoxx: Is it possible the voodoo3 is a 32meg card? |
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| [00:28:00] | JaZy84: | Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...already running. |
| [00:28:00] | NightMonkey: | JaZy84: Did you set up the DB, and access credentials? |
| [00:29:00] | JaZy84: | i didn't manually set up anything. i just ran the aptitude and used the pkg |
| [00:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Tanthrix: nope |
| [00:29:00] | Esotericisms: | alright I just downgraded from a nvidia fx 5700 to a mx4000 in my myth box and now my display is all borked ... anyone one know have any thoughts ... I removed the configuration for the fx5700 and configured the mx4000 with kudzu |
| [00:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | they were 16meg cards |
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| [00:29:00] | ned: | JaZy84: Have you been through the how to? http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythInstall |
| [00:29:00] | NightMonkey: | JaZy84: Well, there you go. Read the docs at http://mythtv.org/docs/ |
| [00:29:00] | Tanthrix: | sphery: So, then is X thinking the card is 32 causing some of these problems? |
| [00:30:00] | sphery: | Don't know... |
| [00:30:00] | sphery: | Still looking... |
| [00:30:00] | Tanthrix: | K. |
| [00:30:00] | Tanthrix: | Does the "NoAccel" and "DRI" affect performance in any way? |
| [00:30:00] | Tanthrix: | 2d / video stuff, that is. |
| [00:30:00] | Tanthrix: | I don't care about 3d on that card. |
| [00:31:00] | Tanthrix: | Heh, I can answer that question: Yes! Video performance is not as good. Mplayer takes longer to load and moving the window causes sluggishness. |
| [00:32:00] | Tanthrix: | Sphery, you were right about DRI. I got rid of the DRI disable and it still works. Getting rid of NoAccel causes X to crash again though. |
| [00:32:00] | sphery: | Don't I do a good job of pretending to know what I'm talking about? |
| [00:33:00] | sphery: | What if you just turn off DRI? |
| [00:33:00] | Tanthrix: | Hehehe. |
| [00:33:00] | sphery: | And leave out the NoAccel? |
| [00:33:00] | Tanthrix: | Crashes. |
| [00:33:00] | sphery: | OK. |
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| [00:33:00] | kormoc: | NoAccel implys DRI disabled I would assume |
| [00:33:00] | sphery: | Not a good approach, then. |
| [00:33:00] | Tanthrix: | I don't like the affect NoAccel has on my video performance on the CRT |
| [00:34:00] | kormoc: | you could use the NV driver if it supports tv out |
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| [00:35:00] | Tanthrix: | I wouldn't have openGL then |
| [00:36:00] | kormoc: | yeah, I don't think there's any way to do what you want then with those two cards :/ |
| [00:36:00] | Tanthrix: | I can live with the way it is now, the monitor being unaccelerated, but the TV needs the GL for the superior video timing method |
| [00:36:00] | ** kormoc raises an eyebrow. ** | |
| [00:36:00] | Tanthrix: | It was doing it a few days ago though... |
| [00:36:00] | Tanthrix: | So, we know for certain it does work...some how. |
| [00:37:00] | kormoc: | superior video timing method? |
| [00:37:00] | Tanthrix: | opengl vsync, as opposed to usleep |
| [00:37:00] | sphery: | Tanthrix: Did you pay for the full license after your free 7-day trial expired? |
| [00:37:00] | kormoc: | realistically, you just can't mix DRI/DRM with nvidia's rendering method. |
| [00:37:00] | sphery: | ;) |
| [00:37:00] | ** Tanthrix regurgitates stuff sphery has told him ** | |
| [00:37:00] | Tanthrix: | License of what? |
| [00:37:00] | sphery: | Just joking... |
| [00:38:00] | sphery: | License for getting both to work. |
| [00:38:00] | Tanthrix: | Oh, hehe. |
| [00:38:00] | kormoc: | vsync isn't just limtied to opengl, you can vsync any sort of video refresh, and it's not related to rendering of the video output :P |
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| [00:38:00] | sphery: | Actually, the GL is a superior refresh |
| [00:38:00] | kormoc: | or else your monitor would be limited to 24 fps |
| [00:38:00] | kormoc: | (or whatever speed the video is) |
| [00:38:00] | Tanthrix: | Reduces tearing. Everyone knows that! |
| [00:38:00] | kormoc: | yeah, but that's not timing |
| [00:39:00] | Tanthrix: | Hehe, well, I don't know what I'm talking about in this regard. Sphery's the man |
| [00:39:00] | sphery: | You've got it close enough... We fixed your timing and refresh and I never explained the difference... |
| [00:40:00] | kormoc: | sphery, superior in what way? and how are you using myth to output via GL? unless you mean XvMC via Textures? |
| [00:40:00] | Tanthrix: | kormoc: I don't think I meant timing, but sphery and I worked on both at the same time so it all blurred together. |
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| [00:41:00] | kormoc: | Tanthrix, fair nuff, it's just I'm courious as to this, cause if there's a better way to do things then how I am, I'd like to know tis all :) |
| [00:41:00] | sphery: | No. When using OpenGL v-sync, Myth is able to tell when the card is actively drawing a frame and only redraws the image so that you never have the top of one and the bottom of another frame... |
| [00:41:00] | sphery: | It's not drawing with OpenGL, just using it to know when to draw. |
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| [00:41:00] | Chutt: | that's not what the vsync stuff is for |
| [00:41:00] | kormoc: | OpenGL v-sync only deals with opengl rendered windows. |
| [00:42:00] | sphery: | Oh. |
| [00:42:00] | Chutt: | and, no, it works on any window |
| [00:42:00] | kormoc: | Chutt, ooh? |
| [00:42:00] | Tanthrix: | Hehe, I know the feeling kormoc. Sphery played around with me the other day by saying "OpenGL is best, but mode X2389dJ is better" prompting me to start asking how mode X2389dj works... |
| [00:42:00] | Chutt: | all the opengl vsync is for is for frame timing |
| [00:43:00] | Tanthrix: | So, does anyone actually know what they are talking about around here? ;) |
| [00:43:00] | sphery: | Isn't that allowing it to know when to draw the frame so we don't have tearing? |
| [00:43:00] | kormoc: | I was under the impression that to query for the opengl vsync you needed a opengl context handler |
| [00:43:00] | sphery: | Chutt does! |
| [00:43:00] | Chutt: | no, you shouldn't get tearing with _any_ card capable of xv |
| [00:43:00] | Tanthrix: | Sphery is right above all, and I'm armed and prepared to fight anyone who says otherwise! |
| [00:43:00] | Chutt: | all the drivers do that internally |
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| [00:43:00] | ** Tanthrix clings to his dogma ** | |
| [00:44:00] | sphery: | I'll fight that Chutt is right. He wrote it... :) |
| [00:44:00] | Chutt: | kormoc, it's rather easy to open up a gl context on any window |
| [00:44:00] | Chutt: | you don't need to render anything to it |
| [00:44:00] | Chutt: | basically, all the vsync stuff is used for is smooth delivery of frames |
| [00:44:00] | sphery: | So the OpenGL v-sync is used as a timing method? |
| [00:44:00] | Chutt: | there's no standard way of knowing when a frame is going to be shown in x |
| [00:44:00] | Tanthrix: | In any case kormoc, this was working the other day with acceleration on the voodoo3 and GL on my nvidia card. |
| [00:44:00] | Tanthrix: | Video playback was perfect on both, and there was no crashing. |
| [00:45:00] | mchou: | anyone recall if ivtv supports the Hauppauge "Amity" design? |
| [00:45:00] | Tanthrix: | But then I started having mysterious tv card issues and since then it hasn't worked for whatever reason. |
| [00:45:00] | Chutt: | so if you want to know _exactly_ (and you do, if you want smooth tickers/scrolling/etc), you have to use the opengl sync stuff, or there's a few other methods |
| [00:45:00] | kormoc: | Chutt, ahh, thanks for clearing that up. |
| [00:45:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [00:45:00] | kormoc: | Tanthrix, so what have you done to the box sense the other day, any updates of anything at all? |
| [00:46:00] | Tanthrix: | That's the thing, as far as I know, absolutely nothing related to xorg or my video drivers. |
| [00:46:00] | kormoc: | what about anything else? |
| [00:47:00] | Tanthrix: | Setup a logical volume, forced an uninstall of some console graphics mandrake stuff, changed my console resolution |
| [00:47:00] | Tanthrix: | installed libdirectfb and dev for an mplayer recompile that I did |
| [00:47:00] | Tanthrix: | installed valknut from RPM |
| [00:47:00] | Tanthrix: | forced my ethernet card to full duplex |
| [00:47:00] | kormoc: | console resoultion |
| [00:47:00] | kormoc: | FB console? |
| [00:47:00] | Tanthrix: | yes |
| [00:48:00] | kormoc: | might that be taking up too much ram for the voodoo? |
| [00:48:00] | mchou: | my local surplus store is selling the Hauppage "Amity 2" HW encoder card for $13...... |
| [00:48:00] | Tanthrix: | hrm.....that's possible. |
| [00:48:00] | mchou: | I'm tempted to try it..... |
| [00:48:00] | Tanthrix: | I increased the res to 1024x768 from the original. |
| [00:48:00] | Tanthrix: | Should I change it back and see what happens? |
| [00:49:00] | kormoc: | I would |
| [00:49:00] | Tanthrix: | Now, the question is...what was the original setting... |
| [00:49:00] | Tanthrix: | it's vga=792 at the moment.. |
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| [00:52:00] | kormoc: | 769 is 640x480x8 |
| [00:52:00] | kormoc: | http://tuxmobil.org/compaq_presario1600xl155_e.html |
| [00:52:00] | woloi: | does anyone in here use MySQL 4.1? |
| [00:53:00] | Tanthrix: | I'll give that a try. |
| [00:53:00] | PatrickDK: | woloi, I do |
| [00:53:00] | woloi: | PatrickDK: did you upgrade from 4.0 before you starting using MythTV or after? |
| [00:54:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, mythtv doesn't care what version of mysqlyou have |
| [00:54:00] | woloi: | i just upgraded today, and i'm having trouble with mythbackend now |
| [00:54:00] | PatrickDK: | but you have to install the corrent client libs |
| [00:54:00] | PatrickDK: | if it's statically compiled, recompile mythtv |
| [00:54:00] | woloi: | ok |
| [00:54:00] | PatrickDK: | it shouldn't be static though |
| [00:55:00] | woloi: | well, i'll recompile mythtv now, it should go fairly quickly, i'm using a decently fast box |
| [00:55:00] | woloi: | can't hurt |
| [00:55:00] | woloi: | any other suggestions in the meantime though? |
| [00:55:00] | PatrickDK: | not really |
| [00:55:00] | Chutt: | qt links dynamically to the mysql client lib |
| [00:55:00] | PatrickDK: | everyone that had that problem, that fixed it for them |
| [00:55:00] | Chutt: | if anything needs recompiled, it'd be that |
| [00:55:00] | woloi: | recompile qt? |
| [00:55:00] | Chutt: | or the qt-mysql plugin |
| [00:56:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, I don't know how mythtv is linked to mysql |
| [00:56:00] | PatrickDK: | I guess through qt, insead of directly |
| [00:56:00] | kormoc: | I had to recompile qt when I updated mysql to 4.1 |
| [00:56:00] | woloi: | heh, well, i'm running gentoo, so the easiest is to just recompile qt i think |
| [00:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | MythTV -> QT -> QT SQL Plugin -> libmysqlclient |
| [00:56:00] | Tanthrix: | kormoc: No dice. |
| [00:56:00] | kormoc: | Tanthrix, you removed the NoAccel and the DVI lines from the conf? |
| [00:56:00] | woloi: | actually, recompiling QT should solve the problem, i noticed a few QSqlDatabase errors, i assume that's short for QT SQL |
| [00:57:00] | Tanthrix: | Aye. |
| [00:57:00] | kormoc: | Tanthrix, what else have you done? :P |
| [00:57:00] | Tanthrix: | I even remembered to run lilo, hehe. |
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| [00:57:00] | Tanthrix: | That's it, what I told you earlier. That and install/uninstall ivtv five times today |
| [00:57:00] | woloi: | ok, thanks a bunch, i'm going to go while this all recompiles |
| [00:57:00] | kormoc: | hrm, were you running a fbcon before? |
| [00:57:00] | Tanthrix: | fbcon? |
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| [00:58:00] | kormoc: | Tanthrix, FB Console |
| [00:58:00] | Tanthrix: | Yes. Default mandrake. Originally had annoying graphics that I got rid of. |
| [00:59:00] | ** kormoc nods and ponders. ** | |
| [00:59:00] | sphery: | Tanthrix: what happens when you set your voodoo to use 16bpp? |
| [00:59:00] | sphery: | In X? |
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| [01:00:00] | Tanthrix: | I can try, one sec. |
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| [01:01:00] | Octane: | anyone know why we haven tseen a new release in months? |
| [01:01:00] | Tanthrix: | same crashing |
| [01:01:00] | sphery: | Octane: much work going on... |
| [01:01:00] | Tanthrix: | and some weird color issues on my TV.... |
| [01:01:00] | Chutt: | i'm too lazy to do a release |
| [01:01:00] | Octane: | sup Chutt |
| [01:01:00] | Octane: | ltns |
| [01:02:00] | Octane: | i was talking about Jared's .X upgrades |
| [01:02:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, that is what the wife always tells me |
| [01:02:00] | Octane: | lol |
| [01:02:00] | Octane: | ! |
| [01:02:00] | Chutt: | hasn't been a reason for 0.18.2 |
| [01:03:00] | Octane: | im just wondering, its not like im dying for a bug fix. heck, i cant think of a single bug |
| [01:03:00] | Chutt: | that's why there hasn't been a 0.18.2 |
| [01:04:00] | sphery: | Tanthrix: can you post your X log with 16bpp? |
| [01:04:00] | Tanthrix: | Yes, one sec. |
| [01:05:00] | JaZy84: | okay guys when i try to build pkg mythtv-data base i get this error Failed to connect to database: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES) at -e line 5, <> line 1. |
| [01:05:00] | Tanthrix: | Just to clarify, we are talking about color depth, right? |
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| [01:06:00] | sphery: | Yes |
| [01:06:00] | JaZy84: | it says to runn with these triggers dpkg-reconfigure --force mythtv-database |
| [01:06:00] | JaZy84: | which will start a mysql config. |
| [01:06:00] | JaZy84: | but then i will get the same error again any ideas |
| [01:06:00] | Tanthrix: | http://novae-res.org/output.txt – Be sure to refresh |
| [01:07:00] | ** Ryushin jumps up and down, waves his hands back and forth, bangs his head against the desk, wall, etc. So close yet so far. Damn hd dvb crap. Does anyone have even the slightest inkling why I'm getting this error "DVB#0 ERROR – Could not find dvb tuning parameters for transport 0". Pretty please. With a cherry on top. ** | |
| [01:07:00] | sphery: | JaZy84: http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.2 (bottom of page) |
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| [01:07:00] | Tanthrix: | For some weird reason, changing the color depth on the monitor makes colors go weird on the TV |
| [01:07:00] | Tanthrix: | White text is now bright green, but my background wallpaper is unaffected |
| [01:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | Chutt: ummmmmmm check out page http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac ... It referrences a 0.18.2 |
| [01:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | heheh |
| [01:08:00] | Tanthrix: | blackbox theme is also weird colors |
| [01:08:00] | JaZy84: | sphery mythconverg --unknown database |
| [01:09:00] | sphery: | JaZy84: again http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.2 (before doing the stuff at the bottom of the page) |
| [01:10:00] | sphery: | Tanthrix: does running a GL app on the NVIDIA display crash X? |
| [01:10:00] | sphery: | (with 16bpp?) |
| [01:10:00] | Tanthrix: | Yes. |
| [01:10:00] | Tanthrix: | With 16bpp on the voodoo / monitor. |
| [01:11:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, I keep getting really bad ghosts on my pvr350, randomly |
| [01:11:00] | sphery: | I meant 16bpp on the voodoo... |
| [01:12:00] | Ryushin: | Okay, I get it. My messages are going into a black hole. I'm try not to be witty from now on. |
| [01:12:00] | Tanthrix: | That's correct, sphery, that's what I set it to. |
| [01:13:00] | Tanthrix: | 16 bpp for the monitor / voodoo (The voodoo3 drives the CRT monitor, and the geforce4 drives the TV) |
| [01:13:00] | sphery: | OK. The Voodoo can't do DRI with 1280x1024@32bpp because not enough memory is left for textures. Therefore, even before, you didn't have DRI working on the Voodoo. |
| [01:13:00] | Tanthrix: | That figures. It's the "NoAccel" that is what "fixes" this problem. |
| [01:13:00] | sphery: | However, have you actually tried taking out the NoAccel line--but leaving in the no DRI line? |
| [01:14:00] | Tanthrix: | Yes, but I can try again if you'd like. |
| [01:14:00] | Ryushin: | Umm... can someone see me type now? It looks like NickServer wasn't letting me type. |
| [01:14:00] | JaZy84: | well my problem is creating the sql database |
| [01:14:00] | sphery: | The NoAccel (AFAIU) is for the X Acceleration Architecture--which doesn't require DRI. |
| [01:15:00] | Tanthrix: | It crashes, Sphery. |
| [01:15:00] | sphery: | Hmmm. |
| [01:15:00] | Tanthrix: | You're right about the DRI though, it shows in the logs that it was disabling it automatically anyway. |
| [01:15:00] | sphery: | I don't know what else to try. |
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| [01:16:00] | Ryushin: | Umm... Hello. Don't mean to be a pain. But are any of these messages coming through? |
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| [01:16:00] | Tanthrix: | kormoc: Any thoughts? |
| [01:16:00] | Tanthrix: | This is so weird. |
| [01:16:00] | kormoc: | Ryushin, nope, we're not getting your messages |
| [01:17:00] | Ryushin: | Good. Then I'm just loosing my mind. |
| [01:17:00] | sphery: | Ryushin: Don't know anything about HDTV setup (yet)... |
| [01:17:00] | kormoc: | Tanthrix, it's odd |
| [01:17:00] | JaZy84: | think i got it |
| [01:17:00] | sphery: | Good, JaZy84 |
| [01:18:00] | Tanthrix: | Gah, I can notice the lack of acceleration by simply moving windows around. |
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| [01:18:00] | Ryushin: | I'm breaking new ground. But do appreciate everyones help with the PVR-350. It's working, mostly. Except for the picture quality problems. |
| [01:19:00] | sphery: | Tanthrix: Yeah, XAA is very useful... Don't know why you're getting the conflict, though. |
| [01:19:00] | juski: | hi all.. woo it's not deathly quiet for a change when I log in |
| [01:19:00] | sphery: | everyone, shhhh! |
| [01:19:00] | juski: | lol |
| [01:19:00] | ** Tanthrix hides in the bushes ** | |
| [01:21:00] | juski: | just a quick question... is there any way to tell (from the file) what version of a program a patch is intended for? |
| [01:22:00] | sphery: | juski: In the patch it gives a filename for the file to be changed. If the patch was done using CVS or SVN, it should have revision numbers in it. |
| [01:22:00] | sphery: | But that doesn't mean you should downgrade that file to that rev... |
| [01:23:00] | sphery: | :) |
| [01:24:00] | sphery: | Tanthrix: You do realize that the company from which I was considering ordering that TV is now closed, right? |
| [01:24:00] | juski: | ahhh... so no mention of svn or cvs and I can assume it's for the latest official 'stable' release? |
| [01:24:00] | Tanthrix: | Hehehe.....sorry to take up so much of your time. |
| [01:24:00] | Tanthrix: | I suppose that's good though, less money spent! |
| [01:24:00] | jonK: | I have a pvr350, what picture problems are you having? |
| [01:24:00] | juski: | thought as much – just checking to make sure – and thanks |
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| [01:25:00] | sphery: | juski: That means you can assume that they built the patch "manually" from two copies of the file... |
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| [01:25:00] | sphery: | Tanthrix: Right. At least less spent today... |
| [01:25:00] | juski: | hmmm maybe I shouldn't be trying to get my head around code at 00:30 |
| [01:26:00] | sphery: | juski: You can always apply the patch. If there are problems, it will report them. (Then you can go in and edit the files by hand--specifically where the code that was shown the ".rej" (reject) files failed to apply.) |
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| [01:27:00] | juski: | I keep being tempted to patch 0.18.1 to use my dbox... I'd use svn but the dvb code is very broken and I don't know much about programming (if anything) |
| [01:28:00] | juski: | just tell myself to wait for 0.19... but I think that's gonna be a test of patience ;-) |
| [01:28:00] | sphery: | Yeah, juski, if you're a DVB user, you may want to wait... |
| [01:28:00] | juski: | so if I'm in for a test of patience I may aswell try to patch 0.18 myself lol |
| [01:29:00] | juski: | sphery – my production mythtv system is all DVB and I need it to stay working |
| [01:30:00] | juski: | the dbox is just something to play with so i don't have to use a capture card |
| [01:30:00] | sphery: | Sounds like waiting is safest... |
| [01:31:00] | juski: | probably right. sphery |
| [01:31:00] | juski: | looks like it's gonna be a fair while til 0.19 comes out, what with the UI rewrite & everything (but also looking fwd to that very much) |
| [01:32:00] | sphery: | It seems that they need to stabilize DVB before 0.19, too. ;) |
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| [01:32:00] | juski: | not that there's anything 'wrong' with the current UI of course... just anything to make my friends with MCE even more green lol |
| [01:35:00] | JaZy84: | okay guys i got the database created, but now no matter what user i put in the mythtv-setup i get access denied. i'm currently logged on as mythtv user |
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| [01:35:00] | Tanthrix: | sphery, kormoc: Thanks for all the help. |
| [01:36:00] | Tanthrix: | I'm posting to the nvidia forums to see if I can figure out another solution to this problem. |
| [01:36:00] | Tanthrix: | http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.ph . . . 0#post692930 |
| [01:36:00] | kormoc: | your welcome, hope you can solve it |
| [01:36:00] | sphery: | Was it really help if we didn't fix it? I guess that's one for the philosophers... ;) |
| [01:36:00] | sphery: | At least Myth works well. |
| [01:36:00] | sphery: | That's the only important part, anyway. :) |
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| [01:37:00] | Tanthrix: | Hehehe. Only important part exceot the fact the valknut just about dies now when it opens more than a few windows...hehe |
| [01:38:00] | Tanthrix: | Jesus, even scrolling text is slow... |
| [01:38:00] | JaZy84: | and i've read the part on mysql and followed the insturctions for the no secuirty option |
| [01:38:00] | juski: | Tanthrix – I had the GL sync problem on a Nvidia FX5200 card a while back... was a known bug in the Nvidia driver I think |
| [01:39:00] | Tanthrix: | juski: I had this box working perfectly a week or two ago. GL on the nvidia and plain jane acceleration on the voodoo3. Now for some reason it's not working. |
| [01:39:00] | juski: | I hate those kinda problems |
| [01:39:00] | Tanthrix: | Aye. Way, way too much interelated stuff going on. |
| [01:40:00] | juski: | eh? I just downloaded a bz2 from http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine? . . . ;list=mythtv |
| [01:40:00] | juski: | shell is saying 'does not appear to be a valid bz2 archive' |
| [01:40:00] | Tanthrix: | Works in winrar, heh. |
| [01:41:00] | sphery: | juski: Your browser probably uncompressed it. |
| [01:41:00] | sphery: | Try file mythtv-dbox2–200505110842.patch.bz2 |
| [01:41:00] | juski: | just used winrar on it lol |
| [01:41:00] | sphery: | bzip2 compressed data or text? |
| [01:42:00] | juski: | text |
| [01:42:00] | sphery: | browser uncompressed it... |
| [01:43:00] | juski: | heheh |
| [01:43:00] | juski: | now theres something IE probably wouldnt have done |
| [01:45:00] | juski: | downloading the 0.18.1 source to see if the patch will work with it (should do I think) |
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| [01:51:00] | NightMonkey: | JaZy84: Did you "FLUSH PRIVILEDGES" after creating your users on mysql? |
| [01:58:00] | juski: | okees... just so's I don't break my current system... am I right in thinking that if I change the install directory to something innocuous like /temp/newmyth – all the current mythtv binaries will be left intact? |
| [01:59:00] | juski: | I mean by using ./configure --prefix=/temp/newmyth (etc)... |
| [02:10:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh, it's NightMonkey. |
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| [02:14:00] | NightMonkey: | Krazylegz: And so it is. |
| [02:18:00] | Krazylegz: | We meet again! |
| [02:18:00] | Krazylegz: | I forget what I wanted to ask you. |
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| [02:19:00] | Krazylegz: | Actually, I think I figured it out. |
| [02:19:00] | Tommck: | Beirdo – you're an ubuntu fan/user, right? |
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| [02:22:00] | Beirdo: | maybe |
| [02:22:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [02:22:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [02:23:00] | NightMonkey: | Krazylegz: Cool. |
| [02:24:00] | LasseL: | Beirdo, did you install mythtv from the main repos then ? (0.17) |
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| [02:27:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [02:27:00] | Beirdo: | my myth setup's on FC1 |
| [02:27:00] | Beirdo: | and I compile from SVN |
| [02:29:00] | ** LasseL waves hand ** | |
| [02:29:00] | LasseL: | you want to rethink your mythtv setup |
| [02:29:00] | LasseL: | you want to install mythtv on ubuntu and let the world know how you did it |
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| [02:34:00] | _Nero_: | it works! I changed my first bit of mythtv code.. yay.. |
| [02:34:00] | mchou: | yo Beirdo you get your air2pc yet? |
| [02:34:00] | Ryushin: | LasseL: What's the difference of installing it on ubuntu or debian sid? |
| [02:34:00] | LasseL: | no clue |
| [02:35:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [02:35:00] | LasseL: | no much is suspect |
| [02:35:00] | Beirdo: | not gonna buy it, I think |
| [02:35:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: apparently it's shipping. |
| [02:35:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: oh really? |
| [02:35:00] | Agrajag-: | Ryushin: don't use debian sid |
| [02:36:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: opting for something else instead? |
| [02:36:00] | JaZy84: | !ping |
| [02:36:00] | JaZy84: | could someone assist me in getting my channels listed. |
| [02:36:00] | JaZy84: | i'm not understanding the whoe mythfilldatabase thing |
| [02:36:00] | Beirdo: | nah, not bothering |
| [02:37:00] | Cromz: | mchou, you order the flea collar yet? |
| [02:37:00] | Ryushin: | Agrajag-: Any reason why? |
| [02:37:00] | mchou: | Cromz: of course :) |
| [02:37:00] | mchou: | Cromz: and my fleabag |
| [02:37:00] | Cromz: | lol guys at work loved it.. :) |
| [02:37:00] | mchou: | Cromz: haha! |
| [02:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | I wish I could get HDTV OTA here |
| [02:38:00] | Cromz: | told them some wack job in mythtv irc posted it.. ;) lol j/k |
| [02:38:00] | Ryushin: | GreyFoxx: I wish I could get HDTV OTA working! |
| [02:38:00] | mchou: | Cromz: it's all part of the iLifestyle |
| [02:39:00] | Ryushin: | Beirdo: Debian sid and ubuntu are pretty much the same. |
| [02:40:00] | juski: | finally... compiling mythtv-0.18.1 with dbox2 support now.. will test it tomorrow on a different (non production) box :-) |
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| [02:42:00] | juski: | I'm full of questions tonight... DB schema with the patched mythtv will be 1084... will this still work with a standard 0.18.1 frontend? |
| [02:42:00] | Agrajag-: | Ryushin: debian sid is going through lots of big changes atm and is very unstable |
| [02:43:00] | Agrajag-: | .. hence the name, unstable |
| [02:43:00] | Ryushin: | I don't know. I run it on my laptop and on my myth box. Don't have any problems with it. |
| [02:43:00] | Ryushin: | Though I run my own kernels. |
| [02:43:00] | Agrajag-: | are you keeping up to date? |
| [02:44:00] | Agrajag-: | the c++ abi transition isn't complete |
| [02:44:00] | Ryushin: | And the switch to gcc 4 made me recompile my vmware, alsa, and kernel. |
| [02:44:00] | fatmatt: | I've had to run a mixed system, occasional unstable packages just to get things I need installed |
| [02:44:00] | Ryushin: | Every week or so. |
| [02:44:00] | Agrajag-: | there's lots of broken things in sid atm |
| [02:44:00] | fatmatt: | but mostly testing |
| [02:44:00] | Ryushin: | Those are my own sources. So I can understand if they break. |
| [02:46:00] | Ryushin: | Agrajag-: Overall, I guess you're right. I've very experienced, the neophyte shouldn't use it. |
| [02:47:00] | Ryushin: | The debian packages for myth were for unstable. Heck even those didn't work. I had to bebuild those packages as well. Maybe I should have used gentoo. :) |
| [02:47:00] | jemarcks: | Is there a way to clean out the mysql database on myth so its in a 'fresh installed' state? |
| [02:47:00] | juski: | so – does mythfrontend check the DB schema version? |
| [02:47:00] | Ryushin: | Well I'm off. ttfn all. |
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| [02:47:00] | juski: | jemarcks – check out the mysqldump command ;-) |
| [02:48:00] | jemarcks: | ah..cool |
| [02:48:00] | PatrickDK: | mysqldump just is used to backup the database |
| [02:48:00] | juski: | then initialise it again with the mysql -u root (whatever) /usr/share/mythtv/mc.sql |
| [02:48:00] | PatrickDK: | you want to delete the database |
| [02:48:00] | PatrickDK: | and recreate it |
| [02:48:00] | juski: | d'oh |
| [02:48:00] | PatrickDK: | I think it's drop is the mysql command |
| [02:48:00] | juski: | ahh yes |
| [02:49:00] | juski: | drop, and it's late here |
| [02:49:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, I have a script running mysqldump 2 times a day on my critical databases |
| [02:49:00] | PatrickDK: | so they get backed up really really good :) |
| [02:49:00] | PatrickDK: | besides the normaly mysql replication |
| [02:49:00] | NightMonkey: | JaZy84: Honestly, you'll get better help if you follow the docs to the letter, and then ask a question about a specific step. The docs are really good. :) |
| [02:49:00] | jemarcks: | Just looking for a command to reset the database to be like it is when freshly created. |
| [02:49:00] | juski: | I backup mythconverg every night to a new file, then delete week old ones |
| [02:50:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, I have 4 different backup methods |
| [02:50:00] | jemarcks: | good practice |
| [02:50:00] | juski: | pays to be cautious if you care much about the data |
| [02:50:00] | jemarcks: | do you do a cron job? |
| [02:51:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, nothing like mysqldump, mysql replication, rsync, and then normal tape backups |
| [02:51:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, I almost always have a live backup somewhere handy |
| [02:51:00] | juski: | you ever tried to pull data back off a tape? |
| [02:51:00] | PatrickDK: | yes |
| [02:51:00] | juski: | they sometimes work, I hear |
| [02:51:00] | jemarcks: | it works unless you screwed it up |
| [02:51:00] | PatrickDK: | that depends if you don't trash your tapes |
| [02:52:00] | juski: | hahaha – will tell my IT dept at work that then lol |
| [02:52:00] | PatrickDK: | you can onl use them so many times |
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| [02:52:00] | PatrickDK: | just like a cd-rw is only really good for 10 writes |
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| [02:52:00] | PatrickDK: | after that, it's hit or miss |
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| [02:53:00] | NightMonkey: | PatrickDK: And tapes, unlike CD-RWs, can be less reliable with every use (including reads), and need to be re-tensioned regularly. |
| [02:53:00] | juski: | so nobody know if mythfrontend checks the db schema when it loads up? reason I ask is that I've got a pre-compiled diskless frontend, and I'd like that to work without changing anything... db schema before the patch is 1083.. post patch its 1084 |
| [02:53:00] | SlushPump: | "We're in the backup business, not the recovery business". (backup administrator's tagline) |
| [02:54:00] | PatrickDK: | nightmonkey, that is why I only write to them |
| [02:54:00] | _Nero_: | what service does mythmovietime use to get its info? |
| [02:54:00] | PatrickDK: | and only write to mine a max of 20 times |
| [02:54:00] | _Nero_: | it just asks for a username and password, but doesnt tell you the service |
| [02:54:00] | NightMonkey: | SlushPump: Whoah. Let me know who they are so I never hire them or give them referrals. ;) |
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| [02:56:00] | juski: | I need some source tools to look at this code properly.. no use with nano lol |
| [02:56:00] | NightMonkey: | juski: vi? |
| [02:56:00] | NightMonkey: | juski: Better yet, vim? |
| [02:56:00] | juski: | nah I need to be able to see the structure & access the code in a more convenient way |
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| [02:56:00] | juski: | like with Source Insight or similar |
| [02:57:00] | NightMonkey: | juski: j? |
| [02:57:00] | Tired_: | Hello. I found the documentation was a bit unclear about how much HD space I would need...do you guys think I could fit a dedicated backend, mainly for watching live, but also for recording the odd show, would fit in 25GB? |
| [02:57:00] | juski: | j? |
| [02:57:00] | NightMonkey: | juski: Let me find the link, one sec... |
| [02:58:00] | juski: | 25GB? gzip ;-) |
| [02:58:00] | juski: | or cramfs |
| [02:58:00] | Tired_: | ?? |
| [02:58:00] | juski: | ta NightMonkey |
| [02:58:00] | NightMonkey: | juski: http://armedbear-j.sourceforge.net/ Yeah, it's java, but its ok. |
| [02:58:00] | juski: | Tired... you probably could fit a backend into 25GB.. |
| [02:58:00] | Tired_: | Oh, it isn't for HD, just SD in MPEG2 |
| [02:59:00] | NightMonkey: | juski: Of course, it's GUI. |
| [02:59:00] | juski: | cool – thanks muchly! |
| [02:59:00] | Tired_: | Ok. I'm going to use gentoo, so I sorta don't want to compile it for a week then discover it's not enough space ;) |
| [02:59:00] | Tired_: | Thanks :) |
| [03:00:00] | juski: | just use the package CDs, Tired... |
| [03:00:00] | NightMonkey: | juski: Are you looking at the code on Windows? |
| [03:00:00] | juski: | if it's just for a backend you shouldn't need to optimise it much |
| [03:00:00] | juski: | I'm currently going into allthe directories and looking at the files in nano |
| [03:00:00] | Tired_: | i can't. they won't boot on my non-standard machine. |
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| [03:01:00] | juski: | what I'd like to be able to do is browse the whole source tree & follow references to includes etc... |
| [03:01:00] | NightMonkey: | juski: You *might* like gvim – it might make vim more "convenient" for you, if you haven't tried it. |
| [03:01:00] | Tired_: | it's an old Dell server that refuses to boot any debian-derived anything. |
| [03:02:00] | NightMonkey: | juski: http://www.gvim.org/ has some excellent gvim/vim plugins, too, that are just for such a need. |
| [03:02:00] | juski: | all you do with the package cds, tired, is mount them & tell portage to use them |
| [03:02:00] | juski: | cheers again... NightMonkey |
| [03:02:00] | NightMonkey: | </pitch> |
| [03:02:00] | Tired_: | oh, I see what you mean |
| [03:02:00] | juski: | noted :) |
| [03:02:00] | juski: | means it just unpacks the binaries, Tired ;-) |
| [03:02:00] | Tired_: | i thought you meant KnoppMyth... |
| [03:02:00] | Tired_: | sorry |
| [03:03:00] | juski: | but make sure you hold off doing a portage update until after the packages are installed |
| [03:03:00] | JaZy84: | can anyone help me with the channels, when i try to goto watch tv in mythtvfrontend it just get a blue screen, is there a way to scan through the channels i saw something about that in mythtv-setup however it doesn't let me tick it.. |
| [03:03:00] | juski: | or you'll end up compiling for days anyway lol |
| [03:03:00] | Tired_: | i'd rather do it the hard way, tbh...this system is weird enough that it seems to work better that way |
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| [03:04:00] | NightMonkey: | JaZy84: Are you in the US? |
| [03:04:00] | Tired_: | s lon a it fiishes by Xms ok ;) |
| [03:04:00] | juski: | tired – you'd REALLY be wasting your time compiling X etc just for a backend... you really don't need to |
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| [03:04:00] | Tired_: | no, that what useflags are for |
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| [03:05:00] | juski: | and you can't run mythtv-setup without X installed |
| [03:05:00] | Tired_: | i was just more wondering how much disk space it'll take up during usage, not really saving permanent tv files to the drive... |
| [03:06:00] | JaZy84: | yes NightMonkey |
| [03:07:00] | Cromz: | Tired_, don't know about everyone else.. but I get about 2.2 gig file for a 1 hour show (with commercials). |
| [03:07:00] | NightMonkey: | JaZy84: Are you using cable/sat? |
| [03:07:00] | JaZy84: | cable |
| [03:07:00] | NightMonkey: | JaZy84: You need to sign up with Zap2it. |
| [03:08:00] | Tired_: | hmm...when you're watching live, does it make a buffer or something, or does it just keep recording till you stop it and delete some? |
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| [03:08:00] | juski: | Tired.. my root partition is about 5GB without any recordings... that's just a minimal install – X, Gnome (ha! thought I said minimal lol), mythtv & little things |
| [03:08:00] | Cromz: | Tired_, it makes a ringbuff.. you can set it to the size you want I think. |
| [03:08:00] | Tired_: | perfect :) |
| [03:09:00] | juski: | the rest of the TB worth of disks is 75% full lol |
| [03:09:00] | Tired_: | that's what I was looking for..i should be able to make say, 15GB for buffer, and watch with that? |
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| [03:09:00] | Cromz: | ha! mines 76% full |
| [03:09:00] | JaZy84: | NightMonkey what is the cer code ? |
| [03:10:00] | JaZy84: | or how can i obtain one? |
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| [03:10:00] | NightMonkey: | JaZy84: http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.3 |
| [03:10:00] | Tired_: | ok, thanks for the help...i'm sure I'll be back later when I screw it up ;) |
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| [03:14:00] | JaZy84: | i'm getting a 500 internel server error when trying to populate mythifilldatabase |
| [03:15:00] | NightMonkey: | JaZy84: Try again later. They sometimes have server glitches. |
| [03:16:00] | JaZy84: | will i need to get that going before i will see anything under 'watch tv' |
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| [03:20:00] | NightMonkey: | JaZy84: What TV card are you using? And how are you controlling your cable box? |
| [03:20:00] | JaZy84: | because i'm not sure i set it up right for the capture card i'm using the VL4 one. i have the bt848 |
| [03:22:00] | NightMonkey: | JaZy84: I'm not familliar with that card, and I have an external lirc controller for my sat box, so someone else will have to help with that... |
| [03:23:00] | juski: | right I'm off to bed.. morning all! Thanks NightMonkey :) |
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| [03:24:00] | JaZy84: | hrm alright well thanks for all the help thus far NightBird |
| [03:24:00] | JaZy84: | NightMonkey |
| [03:28:00] | NightMonkey: | JaZy84: Night, good luck. |
| [03:28:00] | NightMonkey: | Ah, the NightBird flies... |
| [03:28:00] | NightMonkey: | ;) |
| [03:29:00] | NightMonkey: | The NightMonkey cowers under the great shadow... of... the NightBird. lol ok I'm done |
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| [03:30:00] | mek_: | is there a 0.19? |
| [03:30:00] | _Nero_: | ahhh.. it never ends.. ;) Myth music, if I have the "AlbumArt" enabled, I get an error about my sound device being in use, and music wont play. |
| [03:31:00] | NightMonkey: | mek_: Only in your dreams. |
| [03:31:00] | _Nero_: | if I use any other plugin, it owrks fine.. |
| [03:31:00] | _Nero_: | works |
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| [03:50:00] | Uberbot: | Hi all. |
| [03:51:00] | JaZy84: | i get unknonw video and audio codics on my mythbackend dialog when i run mythfrontend and try to watch tv and ideas? |
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| [03:59:00] | jemarcks: | Video editing question... after marking a commercial, how do i delete it from the recording? |
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| [04:08:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks, transcode it. |
| [04:11:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, so after i set up the cutlist, i run transcode and it takes them out? |
| [04:11:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks, ya.. you saving the videos then? |
| [04:12:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, some of them i burn to dvd |
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| [04:12:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, old classic stuff like startrek, Nova, etc |
| [04:12:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks, use nuvexport.. ;) rip them to mpg |
| [04:13:00] | Cromz: | I got almost all angel and charmed series ;) holly marie combs. hmmmm lol |
| [04:13:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, i have been trying to get nuvexport to run but am having issues. my backend/frontend box is stable but i set it up back in April on myth 0.18. I am feeling the urge to update to fc4/myth0.18.1 but im afraid it will break things |
| [04:14:00] | Cromz: | heh.. I havn't upgraded either.. I'm still at .18 fc3.. but I use this machine as my all in one. |
| [04:16:00] | Cromz: | nuvexport works great on this machine.. x86_64 I use the nuvexort-vcd ;) |
| [04:16:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, yeah, this is my all in one box too.... but i need to install some software development tools... grrr |
| [04:16:00] | Cromz: | lol |
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| [04:16:00] | Cromz: | you can do it.. |
| [04:16:00] | Cromz: | ;> |
| [04:17:00] | Cromz: | I run vmware with xp pro.. to vpn to work when I have too.. play city of heroes.. hmm myth. bunch of other junk :> |
| [04:18:00] | Uberbot: | what does: Can't create/write to file './mythconverg/schemalock.frm' (Errcode: 13) mean? |
| [04:18:00] | Cromz: | at the same time lol cause watching a recovery copy out kind of blows.. so I play city of heroes while I'm watching the job. |
| [04:18:00] | jemarcks: | cool. I use vpn to get to work too. I need to figure out how to ssh from work to my mythbox |
| [04:18:00] | jemarcks: | they dont want you to know. lol |
| [04:19:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks, that's easy.. I've already setup ssh from work to this system.. and do tunneling through it do get to the desktop |
| [04:20:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, do tell! |
| [04:20:00] | jemarcks: | would it work for me? |
| [04:20:00] | Cromz: | Uberbot, check your premissions on the dir.. |
| [04:20:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks, ya.. |
| [04:20:00] | TeknikL: | anyone here have myth working with a nexus-s? |
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| [04:21:00] | Uberbot: | The database is on a remote machine...., Cromz |
| [04:21:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, email me your howto on that pls :D |
| [04:22:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks, you already have sshd install right? change the port in the /etc/sshd.conf to something high. ;) |
| [04:22:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks, lol I don't have one.. |
| [04:22:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, yes. Is that all i do? |
| [04:22:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks, your work machine a windoze box? |
| [04:23:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, yeah.. we all have ibm lap tops |
| [04:23:00] | Cromz: | Uberbot, Can't create/write to file './mythconverg/schemalock.frm' is a local file to that error message.. |
| [04:24:00] | jemarcks: | dont you mean /etc/ssh/ssh_config? |
| [04:24:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks, use putty.exe setup the ssh to log in.. save the settings from the first screen.. load it. look under tunnel.. and forward the ports.. |
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| [04:24:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks, prolly lol been a while. |
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| [04:24:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, yeah.. .do it once and forget it. lol |
| [04:26:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, so i should set port 22 to somthing else? |
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| [04:26:00] | Uberbot: | Cromz, I may have fixed that problem. |
| [04:26:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks, oh hell yeah.. |
| [04:26:00] | Cromz: | Uberbot, ;) you created the './mythconverg/ dir? lol j/k |
| [04:27:00] | Uberbot: | Cromz, ya, it was on the database server, but it was owned by root rw-. |
| [04:27:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks, http://www.engr.wisc.edu/computing/best/rdesktop-putty.html thats sort of the same idea I use.. |
| [04:27:00] | Cromz: | Uberbot, heh told ya.. premissions :> |
| [04:28:00] | Uberbot: | Cromz :-D |
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| [04:29:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks, that sire is mainly windoze to windoze.. but you can forward anyport on your network to any machine on it.. using putty.. it's all on the client side. |
| [04:29:00] | Cromz: | er site.. |
| [04:29:00] | jemarcks: | Cromz, Thats what i needed to see! thx |
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| [04:29:00] | Cromz: | ;) |
| [04:29:00] | thechris: | hey, anyone got a pvr500mce and if so — what should i set the capture cards as? |
| [04:29:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks, I vnc to my wife's machine or mine from work through ssh ;) it rocks.. |
| [04:29:00] | thechris: | also, anyone want to help me with my self-breaking network? |
| [04:31:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, i knew it could be done.. just havnt sat down to set it up |
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| [04:32:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks, dude.. I even found out how to do the X11 forwarding via ssh ;) simple as pie.. check my e-mail at work, looks like I'm running it on my work machine lol but it's using resources from home machine ;) |
| [04:33:00] | jemarcks: | Coooooool. |
| [04:33:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks, http://xlivecd.indiana.edu/ |
| [04:33:00] | Cromz: | I mount the iso image with deamon tools.. run it from the cd / image.. when the prompt come up.. ssh name@where.com -p port_number |
| [04:34:00] | Cromz: | then 'evolution &' |
| [04:34:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [04:35:00] | jemarcks: | sweet... ill download it now........ |
| [04:36:00] | Cromz: | when I tested the 'downloading' from a konquror it wanted to save it on my home system not the work one ;) I got some real funny looks too.. running konquror on a windoze machine lol |
| [04:36:00] | jemarcks: | heh |
| [04:36:00] | Cromz: | the app runs at the ssh host.. the screen is outputted to the client ;) |
| [04:37:00] | jemarcks: | downloading.... |
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| [04:40:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks, if you have a router.. make sure you forward your ssh port to your system ;) |
| [04:40:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [04:40:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, i have a router and i do fwd ports i need |
| [04:40:00] | jemarcks: | lol |
| [04:40:00] | thechris: | i hate X11 forwarding |
| [04:41:00] | thechris: | stupid MIT MAGIC-COOKIE |
| [04:41:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, my router is maxed out. heh |
| [04:41:00] | JaZy84: | i get unknonw video and audio codics on my mythbackend dialog when i run mythfrontend and try to watch tv and ideas? |
| [04:42:00] | JaZy84: | i'm using the bt848 chipset |
| [04:42:00] | Cromz: | thechris, heh. it's not that bad.. ;) with that xlivecd.. but over my cable it's too slow to be real useful. the sshd / tunneling with putty works good tho. |
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| [04:45:00] | thechris: | anyone have a pvr500? |
| [04:46:00] | JaZy84: | is there a way i can see how i need to configure my card? |
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| [04:48:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, ok. downloaded. ill burn a cd in a bit and try it tomorrow at work |
| [04:49:00] | Cromz: | lemme know if you get it to work. |
| [04:50:00] | jemarcks: | will do |
| [04:50:00] | Cromz: | it's pretty simple. just that first command line you gotta do when you get the prompt. 'ssh name@where.com -p port_number' |
| [04:51:00] | Cromz: | oh it'll put a couple of things on your desktop. if it doesn't delete them. watch for them. a ssh dir or link and a 'new shell' link. |
| [04:51:00] | Cromz: | you can delete them when you close the connection |
| [04:51:00] | Cromz: | not a big issue |
| [04:55:00] | JaZy84: | i have a generic bt848 chipset does anyone know which capture card i should select as having thanks.. |
| [04:56:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, burning cd now... (xcdroast) :PO |
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| [04:58:00] | Cromz: | jemarcks, tried to send you a pm. but I havn't authd myself so it didn't go through. lol |
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| [05:00:00] | jemarcks: | heh |
| [05:01:00] | jemarcks: | this should work if i vpn to work from home and then put in the cd and try to get to my myth box from behind the companies fire wall... .right? |
| [05:01:00] | Cromz: | ya |
| [05:01:00] | jemarcks: | *drum roll plz* |
| [05:01:00] | Cromz: | lol |
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| [05:04:00] | jemarcks: | ok.. im in... now putting in cd.... |
| [05:05:00] | BoBotheClown-13: | hello |
| [05:05:00] | BoBotheClown-13: | anyone ever had any experience with this issue? |
| [05:06:00] | BoBotheClown-13: | mythtranscode: mpeg2trans.cpp:668: bool MPEG2trans::process_video(AVPacket*, bool): Assertion `0' failed. |
| [05:06:00] | BoBotheClown-13: | I checked the groups and google but got no love |
| [05:07:00] | geoff: | thechris: I have a pvr 500 and it works fine |
| [05:08:00] | thechris: | geoff: ok, i have an important quesiton |
| [05:08:00] | thechris: | what are the capture card settings supposed to be |
| [05:09:00] | thechris: | there are 2 devices (video0 video1) and 2 tuners (tuner0 tuner1) |
| [05:09:00] | jemarcks: | cromz, it says connection timed out ... port 22 |
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| [06:01:00] | sphery: | dotsony: I think you need some option to the effect of automute=0 |
| [06:02:00] | dotsony: | to the kernel module? |
| [06:02:00] | sphery: | yeah |
| [06:02:00] | sphery: | for the saa7134 |
| [06:02:00] | dotsony: | hm |
| [06:02:00] | sphery: | One sec... |
| [06:02:00] | JaZy84: | hey guys if the video for linux wasn't M in the kernel would mythtv still run? |
| [06:03:00] | dotsony: | i don't see that in modinfo |
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| [06:03:00] | sphery: | Do you have the address of the archive for this channel? |
| [06:03:00] | dotsony: | no |
| [06:04:00] | sphery: | Someone (nuonguy?) just posted info about it yesterday or the day before... |
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| [06:04:00] | dotsony: | hm |
| [06:04:00] | sphery: | found the logs... |
| [06:05:00] | dotsony: | seet |
| [06:05:00] | dotsony: | sweet |
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| [06:09:00] | sphery: | dotsony: http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/index.php?date=2005-09-10 |
| [06:09:00] | dotsony: | i thought for a moment that the info in this thread might be relvant: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . hange;#49797 |
| [06:09:00] | sphery: | Specifically: [23:01] <ascii`> nuongu1, v4lctl setattr automute off;v4lctl setattr mute off |
| [06:09:00] | dotsony: | but i looked at the code and it seems the changes have been integrated |
| [06:09:00] | dotsony: | oh nice |
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| [06:14:00] | sphery: | dotsony: Here's what he told me: |
| [06:14:00] | sphery: | Check it out: I had to install v4lctl (for which I couldn't find RPMs, had to build xawtv from source) |
| [06:14:00] | sphery: | And then, invoke 'v4lctl volume mute off' and then 'v4lctl setattr automute off' |
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| [06:15:00] | dotsony: | hm |
| [06:17:00] | dotsony: | when i mess with v4ctl while tvtime is running the tuner gets fucked up |
| [06:17:00] | dotsony: | er |
| [06:17:00] | dotsony: | messed up |
| [06:18:00] | sphery: | Did you try running it before and then testing? |
| [06:18:00] | dotsony: | well i'm writing all this down |
| [06:18:00] | dotsony: | in case i have to reboot |
| [06:18:00] | sphery: | Good plan. :) |
| [06:18:00] | dotsony: | i seem to have trouble restarting mythbackend without rebooting htough |
| [06:19:00] | dotsony: | i think it's a side-effect of the way the debian package is installed |
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| [06:20:00] | thechris: | i'm haveing issues with a dual tuner setup in mythtv |
| [06:20:00] | dotsony: | but if i get this muting problem fixed i don't care about restarting the backend |
| [06:20:00] | thechris: | any attempts to record on both tuners at the same time fail. |
| [06:20:00] | thechris: | any ideas? |
| [06:22:00] | sphery: | Sorry, thechris, don't know what might cause that... |
| [06:22:00] | sphery: | xris, you there? Got a question about how to proceed patching mythlink.pl for gigem's filename change... ( http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/7240 ) |
| [06:24:00] | xris: | sphery: didn't realize that went in. what's changed? |
| [06:24:00] | sphery: | he's now using chanid_starttime.nuv |
| [06:24:00] | sphery: | Not changing old recordings, though. |
| [06:24:00] | sphery: | has a field in the database with basename (chanid_starttime) |
| [06:24:00] | sphery: | Wondering whether I should patch the current mythlink.pl or the one I've updated in http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/278 |
| [06:25:00] | sphery: | gigem's change just went in tonight, so you're not late at finding it. :) |
| [06:26:00] | sphery: | Currently, you get the filenames from disk and parse chanid, starttime, and endtime to query the DB for description, etc. |
| [06:27:00] | sphery: | With this change, it seems it will be much more straightforward to get info from the DB to start with since some files will have endtime and others won't. |
| [06:27:00] | xris: | should bitch him out for not allowing .mpg |
| [06:28:00] | Captain_Murdoch_: | this is designed to allow that. |
| [06:28:00] | sphery: | he left the placeholder in there... |
| [06:28:00] | Captain_Murdoch_: | commit log even mentions it. |
| [06:28:00] | dotsony: | well |
| [06:28:00] | dotsony: | that seems to have done the trick |
| [06:28:00] | xris: | Captain_Murdoch_: yes.. but if the .nuv isn't included, it should have been.. easier to do now than later. |
| [06:28:00] | sphery: | dotsony: cool. Enjoy. |
| [06:28:00] | dotsony: | allthough i definitely have to be carefull of non-channels |
| [06:28:00] | xris: | but I *did* read about much of it on -developers |
| [06:28:00] | dotsony: | because it no longer mutes when there's no signal |
| [06:28:00] | dotsony: | but yeah thanks a *lot* |
| [06:29:00] | Captain_Murdoch_: | filename including extension, but not including directory is in the DB |
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| [06:29:00] | xris: | sphery: ok, now I see why there was a big deal about "endtimes for in-progress recordings" |
| [06:29:00] | sphery: | Yeah. The change is good, but the legacy filenames make mythlink more of a challenge... |
| [06:30:00] | xris: | anyway, going to need to deal with some other stuff for mythlink that way, though... since it can get confused for files not stored on the same host, etc. |
| [06:30:00] | Captain_Murdoch_: | so you could edit the DB and change the filename to whatever you want as long as you rename the file accordingly and it should still play correctly. |
| [06:30:00] | sphery: | Wow. Hadn't even thought of that... |
| [06:30:00] | xris: | Captain_Murdoch_: thought sphery just said that the .nuv was still added in software |
| [06:30:00] | xris: | er, inline |
| [06:31:00] | Captain_Murdoch_: | no, it's in ProgramInfo::CreateRecordBasename() |
| [06:31:00] | xris: | sphery: yeah, the host becomes an issue. all of my recordings are on one host, but accessible via the same path (nfs mount) on other boxes. |
| [06:31:00] | xris: | Captain_Murdoch_: ok, maybe I read it wrong.. thought sphery just said that "basename" was stored in the database, and then the .nuv was added by mythtv when the data is extracted from the db. |
| [06:32:00] | xris: | anyway, "basename" won't do much good without a path. |
| [06:32:00] | xris: | or a known suffix |
| [06:32:00] | Chutt: | the filename is stored in the database, without path. |
| [06:32:00] | Chutt: | that's how it should be. |
| [06:32:00] | sphery: | the dbcheck code is putting the nuv extension on the end of the basename for all existing recordings |
| [06:32:00] | rtsai: | legacy filename wouldn't be an issue if the upgrade bits renamed the old legacy files to new-format files |
| [06:32:00] | sphery: | http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/7240 |
| [06:32:00] | xris: | Chutt: whole filename? or just the base filename without the suffix? |
| [06:33:00] | Chutt: | the entire filename |
| [06:33:00] | sphery: | UPDATE recorded SET basename = CONCAT(chanid, '_', DATE_FORMAT(starttime, '%Y%m%d%H%i00'), '_', DATE_FORMAT(endtime, '%Y%m%d%H%i00'), '.nuv'); |
| [06:33:00] | Chutt: | read the code before bitching. |
| [06:33:00] | Chutt: | what do 'legacy' filenames matter? |
| [06:33:00] | xris: | sphery: ah, ok. just read you wrong, then. |
| [06:34:00] | xris: | sphery: anyway, how does this make a lot of work for mythlink? |
| [06:34:00] | xris: | just means it can pull the file count from the db instead of scanning... and then only act on files that exist. |
| [06:35:00] | sphery: | not a lot--just wanted to know how whether to patch current version or http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/278 version... |
| [06:35:00] | Uberbot: | I take it I can't send DTMF with mythphone while in a call? |
| [06:36:00] | sphery: | In #278, I removed the perl code from mythlink.sh and had it call mythlink.pl and updated mythlink.pl to add functionality that was in mythlink.sh |
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| [06:37:00] | xris: | sphery: oh.. if you added the extra functionality to .pl, I'd just delete .sh |
| [06:37:00] | sphery: | That would work, too. |
| [06:37:00] | xris: | hang on |
| [06:37:00] | sphery: | Didn't know if it would be useful to leave it there as an example "frontend" |
| [06:39:00] | xris: | dunno. I added the perl one because it was better code (sh calling perl is just silly), but left sh because it did have a few extra features. |
| [06:39:00] | sandos: | ooh, ohhh, can you get myth to pause any playing when/if the phone rings? ;) |
| [06:40:00] | sandos: | (would be awesome) |
| [06:40:00] | sphery: | Yeah, xris, I agree that mythlink.pl is better. That's why I took the perl out of mythlink.sh. |
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| [06:41:00] | sphery: | I don't mind if you delete mythlink.sh |
| [06:41:00] | xris: | sphery: you show strong microsoft-coding tendencies... $d.... |
| [06:41:00] | xris: | ;) |
| [06:41:00] | sphery: | Lack of perl experience. |
| [06:41:00] | sphery: | I hope it's not a MS thing... |
| [06:41:00] | sphery: | I don't even have Windows... |
| [06:41:00] | xris: | nah, it's just reminiscent of that coding style where you prefix all variables with their type. |
| [06:41:00] | xris: | isome_int |
| [06:42:00] | xris: | fsome_float |
| [06:42:00] | xris: | etc |
| [06:42:00] | xris: | dsome_default |
| [06:42:00] | sphery: | That was actually for "default" |
| [06:42:00] | sphery: | :) |
| [06:42:00] | xris: | yes |
| [06:42:00] | sphery: | not for type... |
| [06:43:00] | sphery: | (I'll admit keeping a separate var for default so the help text was correct even if the user specifies a value was a bit obsessive...) |
| [06:43:00] | xris: | ok, your changes are in, and .sh is gone |
| [06:43:00] | sphery: | Sounds good. |
| [06:43:00] | thechris: | Ok, i've found my issue |
| [06:43:00] | thechris: | but can't resolve it |
| [06:43:00] | sphery: | I'll work from there... |
| [06:43:00] | sphery: | Thanks. |
| [06:44:00] | thechris: | how do i force ivtv to use tuner=57 |
| [06:44:00] | xris: | now Chutt can't accuse me of being COMPLETELY lazy. :) |
| [06:44:00] | thechris: | after its been modprobed? |
| [06:44:00] | xris: | thechris: put it in the modprobe.conf options |
| [06:44:00] | sphery: | BTW, I still wouldn't mind your looking over the filename character sub sometime, xris... |
| [06:44:00] | thechris: | that has no effect |
| [06:44:00] | thechris: | thats why i ask for afterwards |
| [06:45:00] | xris: | sphery: only issue I have with it is that you should check numbers. |
| [06:45:00] | xris: | since I didn't want stuff like 3–4 to get split |
| [06:45:00] | xris: | since there are many episodes with fractions in the name (eg. "3/4 second") where the / gets converted to the separator char |
| [06:46:00] | sphery: | Didn't think to try that one... |
| [06:46:00] | thechris: | ok, it seems that "options" do not work in modules.conf |
| [06:46:00] | sphery: | Will test for the upcoming patch... |
| [06:46:00] | thechris: | i can modprobe the card manually and get both tuners up. |
| [06:47:00] | xris: | sphery: should just be a matter of adding some of the lookahead stuff back into the regex |
| [06:47:00] | xris: | - $name =~ s/(?:[\-\/\\:*?<>|]+\s*)+(?=[^\d\s])/- /sg; |
| [06:47:00] | xris: | that matches anything followed by something that is not \d or \s |
| [06:48:00] | xris: | which prevents both "4- 3" and "- " (two spaces) |
| [06:48:00] | sphery: | OK. We took out the lookahead for ending with illegal characters (i.e. "Got_Murder?") |
| [06:49:00] | sphery: | So, I'll try to work that in so it works both ways... |
| [06:49:00] | xris: | I spent a LONG time getting those two regex's right... the one I pasted, and the one on the line following (which gets rid of remaining illegal chars) |
| [06:49:00] | xris: | valid ones are replaced with "- " and the others are only replaced with "-" |
| [06:49:00] | sphery: | Some of the stuff I made you take out removed functionality, so I tried to go back to your original and work from there... |
| [06:50:00] | sphery: | Seems I missed some functionality. |
| [06:50:00] | xris: | anyway, I look forward to the next patch... :) |
| [06:51:00] | sphery: | And I look forward to your constructive criticism. |
| [06:51:00] | sphery: | One of these days I might pick up a little something about perl from you... |
| [06:51:00] | sphery: | I'll probably work on the patch tomorrow. Getting late here. Thanks for the help. |
| [06:52:00] | xris: | :) |
| [06:52:00] | xris: | I'm SO out of practice with perl stuff... |
| [06:52:00] | xris: | well, regex stuff. |
| [06:52:00] | ** xris wants perl6 ** | |
| [06:53:00] | sphery: | BTW, you didn't read me wrong about the basename--I typed it wrong... A bit too much "shorthand"--I left the ".nuv" off my example of the basename. Sorry for causing all that confusion (and not realizing where the confusion came from). |
| [06:54:00] | xris: | no biggie. got straightened out. esp. since the "mpeg with nuv suffix" thing is probably one of the hardest things to get new users to understand and I'm happy to see that it may finally get solved. |
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| [06:57:00] | sphery: | Yeah. It will be nice not to have to say, "Your file is an MPEG file, but it has a .nuv extension." |
| [06:57:00] | xris: | yup |
| [06:57:00] | xris: | hmm, guess I'll have to actually rev nuvexport, too |
| [06:57:00] | sphery: | Yeah. I'll leave that one for you. |
| [06:58:00] | sphery: | It seems to be a lot of work--even when the filenames aren't changing. :) |
| [06:58:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [06:58:00] | xris: | well, it's a HUGE step in the right direction |
| [06:58:00] | Chutt: | but i like the nuv extension |
| [06:59:00] | Chutt: | weeds out the ignorant |
| [06:59:00] | sphery: | lol |
| [06:59:00] | sphery: | Somehow I made it through, though... |
| [06:59:00] | xris: | Chutt: yeah, and drives those of us who deal with them NUTS. |
| [07:00:00] | Chutt: | i just don't deal with em =) |
| [07:01:00] | sphery: | And when you do, you also help weed out the ignorant. ;) |
| [07:01:00] | xris: | sphery: or get them so annoyed that they leave. heh. |
| [07:01:00] | sphery: | either way works. |
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| [07:07:00] | sphery: | xris: Just to verify I understand your suggestions... I should get the basenames, chanid, starttime and endtime from the database (therefore, removing the code parsing the filename) and only link those files that exist (plus make the changes you mentioned to the filename substitution code) |
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| [07:32:00] | thechris: | sweet. the dual recording thing now finally works. life can again resume |
| [07:34:00] | Uberbot: | Does anyone know how I can use MythPhone to check my voicemail on an Asterisk server? |
| [07:34:00] | Uberbot: | I can't send DTMF with MythPhone.... |
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| [08:38:00] | syle: | http://www.gamershell.com/download_9649.shtml |
| [08:38:00] | syle: | dead or alive 4 comming out |
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| [08:46:00] | Skif: | anybody else running mythtv on ubuntu breezy? |
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| [11:06:00] | johahatl_: | Hi, does there exist a mirror for mythtv.org ? |
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| [12:03:00] | maniacxs: | johahatl_, do you need a mirror? |
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| [12:32:00] | johahatl_: | maniacxs: I can't reach the site |
| [12:33:00] | maniacxs: | johahatl_, i am able to reach it. |
| [12:34:00] | maniacxs: | johahatl_, try: http://70.84.9.187/ |
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| [12:41:00] | johahatl_: | maniacxs: that did the trick |
| [12:41:00] | johahatl_: | maniacxs: must be a dns problem, let's hope it will not spread |
| [12:41:00] | maniacxs: | johahatl_, then your dns settings are wrong, or contact your isp, to tell him problem with dns. |
| [12:41:00] | johahatl_: | maniacxs: now it works for me as well, might have been a temp problem from Norway / my DNS servers resolving. |
| [12:42:00] | johahatl_: | maniacxs: I am the ISP .. ;) |
| [12:42:00] | maniacxs: | so you are geir? |
| [12:43:00] | maniacxs: | the subnet is not really big... |
| [12:44:00] | johahatl_: | I don't wuite follow you.. :) |
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| [12:44:00] | johahatl_: | I have a class C subnet, and one smaller with 16 adressess.. |
| [12:45:00] | johahatl_: | I say I am the "ISP" .. that is, I am the admin of the dns servere used by my client computer. |
| [12:45:00] | johahatl_: | I am not Geir.. :) |
| [12:45:00] | maniacxs: | ok..ok :) |
| [12:46:00] | maniacxs: | was a try worth |
| [12:46:00] | johahatl_: | That being said, I know my ISP's net better then they do :) |
| [12:47:00] | johahatl_: | It's all about using zybbix, nagios, mrtg, snmp, smokeping :) |
| [12:48:00] | maniacxs: | what does the dns do with adresses it does not know? does it forward to a specific dns, or does it try to find at root servers? |
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| [13:39:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, my dns servers don't forward |
| [13:39:00] | PatrickDK: | I found that gives bad results, as people keep playing with dns servers too often |
| [13:40:00] | PatrickDK: | hell, even a very large colo around here, has their dns setup odd somehow, and you can't resolve .org addresses with them |
| [13:42:00] | paulweb515: | PatrickDK: it's amazing how a little fiddling can get DNS to not work. |
| [13:45:00] | PatrickDK: | I'm also amazed at how slow bind is |
| [13:45:00] | PatrickDK: | but it's really the only recursive resolver out there |
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| [13:50:00] | paulweb515: | PatrickDK: it didn't use to be that way ... BIND 4 was pretty fast (and somewhat limited), but with the new features in BIND 8 it started getting slower, and BIND 9 ... well |
| [13:50:00] | paulweb515: | Still, it's open source and pretty good quality ... if you've ever dealt with MS DNS servers, it's in pretty good shape |
| [13:51:00] | PatrickDK: | ya, I played around with bind8 and bind9 for speed tests |
| [13:51:00] | PatrickDK: | bind8 was almost twice as fast |
| [13:51:00] | PatrickDK: | I then installed a ldap based dns server to host my domains |
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| [13:51:00] | PatrickDK: | and it clocked in just alittle faster than bind8 |
| [13:51:00] | PatrickDK: | I will say, dns updates in ldap is so much easier than in bind |
| [13:52:00] | paulweb515: | yes :-) |
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| [14:38:00] | immolo: | what would you guys say the min and recommanded RAM was for a myth box? |
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| [14:39:00] | laga_: | 256, 512 |
| [14:40:00] | laga_: | megabytes of course ;) |
| [14:41:00] | immolo: | that could be why my machine is lagging with only 128 :P |
| [14:41:00] | laga_: | right |
| [14:42:00] | immolo: | lucky for me I have 256 on order |
| [14:42:00] | DonLKSAB: | Hi |
| [14:42:00] | DonLKSAB: | I have 512 in mine |
| [14:42:00] | DonLKSAB: | Seems to be enugh |
| [14:43:00] | immolo: | DonLKSAB, Yeah I had 512 in my other box which ran myth |
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| [14:51:00] | JaZy84: | i get unknonw video and audio codics on my mythbackend dialog when i run mythfrontend and try to watch tv and ideas and on the frontend while watching tv i just get a blue screen i can change the channels but with no luck |
| [14:51:00] | Agrajag-: | are you serious |
| [14:52:00] | Agrajag-: | what happened to your punctuation? |
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| [17:01:00] | deepdelver: | hello |
| [17:01:00] | deepdelver: | can somebody pleaaaase help me my card is not correctly recognised in ivtv its an 250 he see an 150 |
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| [17:04:00] | deepdelver: | somebody |
| [17:04:00] | deepdelver: | ?? |
| [17:04:00] | deepdelver: | no? |
| [17:04:00] | Bhaal: | Hey folks... Ive decided to upgrade to ivtv-0.3.7k But I seem to lose audio when I change channels... If I am patient and wait anything upto 10mins I eventually get it back.... If I change to the channel I last had working audio on, its fine... Ive been googling and seen a patch mentioned, anyone know anything about this and where I might find the patch? |
| [17:04:00] | deepdelver: | ok i try it tonight |
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| [17:05:00] | deepdelver: | bhaal |
| [17:05:00] | deepdelver: | do you know what i can do about |
| [17:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | Bhaal: I saw a post on the ivtv list saying that anyone with audio issues should update and test at 0.3.8 |
| [17:05:00] | deepdelver: | my card |
| [17:05:00] | deepdelver: | he sees an 150 |
| [17:05:00] | deepdelver: | i have a 250 |
| [17:05:00] | deepdelver: | pvr |
| [17:06:00] | Dibblah: | deepdelver: I'm pretty sure that's fixed in the version I've been asking you to install all along. |
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| [17:06:00] | jonK: | still.... deep, just where did you get this card |
| [17:06:00] | Dibblah: | deepdelver: ie 0.3.8 now. |
| [17:06:00] | jonK: | woot! |
| [17:07:00] | Dibblah: | jonK: It's a 250 with an ivtc-16 chip. It's rare, but they exist. |
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| [17:07:00] | Dibblah: | woot? |
| [17:07:00] | Bhaal: | deepdelver: Yeah, 0.3.8 ... I know it to be an Australian problem where the original PVR-250s that were released were actually PVR-150s.. And this was unique to .au I believe |
| [17:07:00] | Bhaal: | GreyFoxx: I tried 0.3.8 and thats where I noticed it... |
| [17:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have a 250 with a iTVC16(a FreeStyle) and it detects and works normally as a 250 |
| [17:08:00] | deepdelver: | i just installed the latest unstable version |
| [17:08:00] | deepdelver: | so that need to be correct? |
| [17:08:00] | Dibblah: | GreyFoxx: yup. There were a couple of versions of the driver where it didn't see that cardtype correctly, though. |
| [17:09:00] | jonK: | aah.. finally, a reason why he's been having such troubles |
| [17:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | Dibblah: I didn't touch the 0.3.x except for a few days to play with a 350 and the new xv support. so I might have just aboided the problem |
| [17:09:00] | Dibblah: | deepdelver: What does your dmesg look like now? Post to http://pastebin.ca |
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| [17:11:00] | deepdelver: | Dibblah, |
| [17:11:00] | deepdelver: | i forced it to 250 |
| [17:11:00] | deepdelver: | http://pastebin.com/362548 |
| [17:11:00] | deepdelver: | but i dont think this is gooed |
| [17:11:00] | deepdelver: | good |
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| [17:12:00] | deepdelver: | he either don't have any /dev/video0 |
| [17:13:00] | Dibblah: | No, it's not. |
| [17:13:00] | Dibblah: | You've specified a 350, which you don't have. |
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| [17:14:00] | deepdelver: | ivtv: Initialized WinTV PVR 250, card #0 |
| [17:14:00] | deepdelver: | i did option 1 |
| [17:14:00] | Dibblah: | That's the second one. Is the first card from earlier, then? |
| [17:14:00] | deepdelver: | http://pastebin.com/362551 |
| [17:15:00] | deepdelver: | i gave wrong log |
| [17:15:00] | deepdelver: | the one from my crtl c |
| [17:15:00] | deepdelver: | was old |
| [17:15:00] | deepdelver: | :P |
| [17:15:00] | deepdelver: | this is the good one |
| [17:15:00] | deepdelver: | uhhhh... the not goog one :P |
| [17:15:00] | deepdelver: | good |
| [17:15:00] | Dibblah: | tveeprom is not working for you. what does modinfo tveeprom |
| [17:15:00] | Dibblah: | show? |
| [17:16:00] | Dibblah: | It's long... I'm just interested in where it's sourcing tveeprom from, not any of the parameters. |
| [17:16:00] | deepdelver: | http://pastebin.com/362553 |
| [17:17:00] | deepdelver: | this |
| [17:17:00] | Dibblah: | ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.12–1.1447_FC4/ivtv/tveeprom.ko |
| [17:18:00] | deepdelver: | [root@localhost ~]# /lib/modules/2.6.12–1.1447_FC4/ivtv/tveeprom.ko |
| [17:18:00] | deepdelver: | bash: /lib/modules/2.6.12–1.1447_FC4/ivtv/tveeprom.ko: Toegang geweigerd |
| [17:18:00] | deepdelver: | acces denied |
| [17:19:00] | Dibblah: | You missed the ls -l bit at the beginning of the line. |
| [17:19:00] | deepdelver: | [root@localhost ~]# ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.12–1.1447_FC4/ivtv/tveeprom.ko |
| [17:19:00] | deepdelver: | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 119806 sep 13 14:52 /lib/modules/2.6.12–1.1447_FC4/ivtv/tveeprom.ko |
| [17:19:00] | Dibblah: | Hmmm... And that's when you built ivtv, I take it? |
| [17:20:00] | deepdelver: | ? |
| [17:20:00] | deepdelver: | what do i need to do? |
| [17:20:00] | Dibblah: | 14:52 today. |
| [17:20:00] | deepdelver: | yes |
| [17:20:00] | deepdelver: | installed it +- at that time |
| [17:21:00] | deepdelver: | but cant find an solution for my problem on google |
| [17:21:00] | deepdelver: | so i went over here |
| [17:21:00] | Dibblah: | I get the feeling you have some mismatched modules still installed. |
| [17:21:00] | deepdelver: | thats possible |
| [17:21:00] | deepdelver: | but how do i know wich one |
| [17:21:00] | deepdelver: | shall we reinstall it? |
| [17:22:00] | deepdelver: | don know how to uninstall |
| [17:22:00] | deepdelver: | and everytime ie got the same problem :S |
| [17:24:00] | deepdelver: | Dibblah, still here? |
| [17:24:00] | Dibblah: | Can you do (all one line): |
| [17:24:00] | Dibblah: | ls /lib/modules/2.6.12–1.1447_FC4/kernel/ivtv |xargs -i\{\} find /lib/modules/ -iname \{\} |
| [17:24:00] | deepdelver: | ? |
| [17:25:00] | deepdelver: | unknown file or folder |
| [17:25:00] | Dibblah: | remove /kernel – Sorry :) |
| [17:26:00] | Dibblah: | And replace /lib/modules with /lib/modules/2.6.12–1.1447_FC4/kernel/drivers |
| [17:26:00] | Dibblah: | on that command line |
| [17:26:00] | Bhaal: | GreyFoxx: Okey, Ive re-install 0.3.8 and done a cold reboot... Still losing audio.. In this case, right on opening the tuner for the first time... |
| [17:26:00] | deepdelver: | how do i remove kernel |
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| [17:27:00] | Dibblah: | Bhaal: Report it on the ivtv mailing list. Hans is waiting for that type of report. |
| [17:27:00] | deepdelver: | Dibblah, where is /kernel |
| [17:27:00] | Dibblah: | deepdelver: I mean edit the line I sent to remove /kernel from it. |
| [17:28:00] | deepdelver: | ok done |
| [17:28:00] | Bhaal: | Dibblah: The difference I have is my card is a .au PVR-250 (really a PVR-150) |
| [17:29:00] | Dibblah: | Yes. And this is an issue that Hans is trying to fix. Read the mailing list. |
| [17:29:00] | Bhaal: | righto |
| [17:29:00] | Dibblah: | deepdelver: What did it come up with? |
| [17:29:00] | deepdelver: | installing a lot of files |
| [17:30:00] | Dibblah: | It didn't install anything :) |
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| [17:30:00] | Dibblah: | Can you paste the output to pastebin? |
| [17:30:00] | deepdelver: | http://pastebin.com/362571 |
| [17:30:00] | deepdelver: | :) |
| [17:31:00] | Dibblah: | deepdelver: Can you remove the duplicated files from lib/modules/2.6.11–1.1369_FC4/kernel/drivers/media/video/ |
| [17:31:00] | Dibblah: | ie rm <filename> on each of them. |
| [17:31:00] | deepdelver: | how |
| [17:31:00] | Dibblah: | rm /lib/modules/... |
| [17:31:00] | Dibblah: | For each filename. |
| [17:31:00] | Dibblah: | ONLY the ones in media/video. |
| [17:32:00] | deepdelver: | so the files from the output i need to delete? |
| [17:32:00] | Dibblah: | And ONLY the ones that came up from that command. |
| [17:32:00] | Dibblah: | Not all of them. |
| [17:32:00] | Bhaal: | Gah, guess I need to join the mailing list then... |
| [17:32:00] | Dibblah: | Just a sec – I'll give you a better command. |
| [17:33:00] | Dibblah: | ls /lib/modules/2.6.12–1.1447_FC4/ivtv |xargs -i\{\} find /lib/modules/2.6.12–1.1447_FC4/kernel -iname \{\} |xargs echo |
| [17:33:00] | Bhaal: | Dibblah: users list or devel list? |
| [17:33:00] | Dibblah: | Paste the output of that to pastebin again, just to make sure I'm not going to make any silly mistakes. |
| [17:33:00] | Dibblah: | Bhaal: dev. Users is dead and spammed. |
| [17:33:00] | Bhaal: | fairymuff |
| [17:34:00] | Dibblah: | There's a better way to do this than xargs... But I like xargs :) |
| [17:34:00] | deepdelver: | Dibblah, done |
| [17:35:00] | Dibblah: | You've done the deletes? |
| [17:35:00] | deepdelver: | yes |
| [17:35:00] | deepdelver: | only the one from the outputs that where to in the /medi map |
| [17:35:00] | deepdelver: | so what is next |
| [17:36:00] | Dibblah: | You could reboot. Or ls /lib/modules/2.6.12–1.1447_FC4/ivtv |xargs rmmod |
| [17:37:00] | Dibblah: | Everything after "Or " |
| [17:37:00] | deepdelver: | ERROR: Module ivtv_fb does not exist in /proc/modules |
| [17:37:00] | deepdelver: | ERROR: Module msp3400 does not exist in /proc/modules |
| [17:37:00] | deepdelver: | ERROR: Module tveeprom does not exist in /proc/modules |
| [17:37:00] | Dibblah: | That's OK :) |
| [17:37:00] | deepdelver: | ok lol |
| [17:37:00] | Dibblah: | Now... Hold your breath and modprobe ivtv |
| [17:38:00] | deepdelver: | i added this in my modprobe is that ok |
| [17:38:00] | deepdelver: | # ivtv modules setup |
| [17:38:00] | deepdelver: | alias char-major-81 videodev |
| [17:38:00] | deepdelver: | alias char-major-81–0 ivtv |
| [17:38:00] | deepdelver: | alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv |
| [17:38:00] | deepdelver: | alias msp3400 msp3400-ivtv |
| [17:38:00] | deepdelver: | options ivtv ivtv_std=2 tda9887=0 |
| [17:38:00] | deepdelver: | options ivtv cardtype=1 |
| [17:38:00] | deepdelver: | before i do modprobe and that isn't ok |
| [17:38:00] | Dibblah: | Should be OK. Unnecessary, but OK. |
| [17:38:00] | deepdelver: | should i remove it |
| [17:38:00] | deepdelver: | ? |
| [17:38:00] | deepdelver: | is that better |
| [17:38:00] | deepdelver: | but now i force the card |
| [17:39:00] | Dibblah: | Don't bother. It doesn't hurt anything, I hope. |
| [17:39:00] | deepdelver: | i remove it |
| [17:39:00] | Dibblah: | Just comment it out. |
| [17:39:00] | Dibblah: | # at the beginning of the line. |
| [17:39:00] | Dibblah: | Just in case it does help |
| [17:39:00] | Al: | does anyone know what support is like for the new DVB hauppauge nova-t cars is like atm? |
| [17:39:00] | deepdelver: | ok modprobe ivtv done without errors |
| [17:40:00] | Dibblah: | And your dmesg looks like? |
| [17:40:00] | deepdelver: | an pvr 150 |
| [17:40:00] | Al: | Ive been using a nova-t (phillips frontend) successfully on my own system for over a year. im now looking to build another but i see theyve changed chips and read in a number of places that support for this card is not good |
| [17:40:00] | deepdelver: | http://pastebin.com/362586 |
| [17:41:00] | Al: | just wondering if its improved recently |
| [17:41:00] | Dibblah: | Well, uncomment out the cardtype line and see what happens on the next modprobe after doing that xargs rmmod command. |
| [17:41:00] | deepdelver: | wich one |
| [17:41:00] | deepdelver: | xargs rmmod?? |
| [17:42:00] | deepdelver: | ls /lib/modules/2.6.12–1.1447_FC4/ivtv |xargs rmmod ?????????????????? |
| [17:42:00] | Dibblah: | Ummm... That is a 150 you have. |
| [17:42:00] | Dibblah: | It's not a 250. |
| [17:42:00] | deepdelver: | no i have a 250 |
| [17:42:00] | deepdelver: | but he thinks its an 150 |
| [17:42:00] | deepdelver: | there are more people who has this |
| [17:42:00] | Dibblah: | Otherwise you'd have issues probing the cx25840... |
| [17:43:00] | Dibblah: | You wouldn't get |
| [17:43:00] | Dibblah: | tveeprom: audio processor = CX25843 (type = 25) |
| [17:43:00] | deepdelver: | ok but what do ineed to do about it |
| [17:43:00] | Dibblah: | Well, that should be it working. |
| [17:43:00] | Dibblah: | You've got a tuner registered, even. |
| [17:43:00] | deepdelver: | how do i test |
| [17:44:00] | Dibblah: | mplayer /dev/video0 |
| [17:44:00] | deepdelver: | [root@localhost ~]# mplayer /dev/video0 |
| [17:44:00] | deepdelver: | bash: mplayer: command not found |
| [17:44:00] | Dibblah: | You'll need to install mplayer first ;) |
| [17:44:00] | deepdelver: | did yum install mplayer |
| [17:44:00] | Dibblah: | Ummm... Well, it's not there. |
| [17:45:00] | deepdelver: | its installing now |
| [17:45:00] | Dibblah: | :) |
| [17:45:00] | deepdelver: | 1.0.46 |
| [17:45:00] | deepdelver: | 14 mb :P |
| [17:46:00] | Dibblah: | What makes you think it's a 250? |
| [17:46:00] | deepdelver: | but there are a bunch of card made with a 150 chip or something but it is an 250 for sure |
| [17:46:00] | deepdelver: | hopefully he works |
| [17:46:00] | deepdelver: | i have this problem since fc4 |
| [17:46:00] | Dibblah: | If it has a cx25843, it's a 150 ;) |
| [17:46:00] | deepdelver: | its a 250 |
| [17:46:00] | deepdelver: | in windows xp |
| [17:47:00] | deepdelver: | and an 250 on the box |
| [17:47:00] | deepdelver: | but not in linux |
| [17:47:00] | deepdelver: | right..... |
| [17:47:00] | Dibblah: | If it has a msp3400, it's a 250. |
| [17:47:00] | deepdelver: | yeah sure :S |
| [17:48:00] | deepdelver: | wow |
| [17:48:00] | Dibblah: | wow? Good wow, please. |
| [17:48:00] | deepdelver: | http://pastebin.com/362600 |
| [17:48:00] | deepdelver: | bad wow |
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| [17:49:00] | deepdelver: | very bad wow :s |
| [17:49:00] | Dibblah: | Actually, partially good wow. |
| [17:49:00] | Dibblah: | What's your video card? |
| [17:49:00] | deepdelver: | capture or video |
| [17:49:00] | deepdelver: | ? |
| [17:49:00] | Dibblah: | Video. |
| [17:49:00] | deepdelver: | ati radeon 9200 |
| [17:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | MPEG-PS file format detected. |
| [17:50:00] | deepdelver: | hauppage pvr 250 |
| [17:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | At least it's readiung the data from the capture card |
| [17:50:00] | Dibblah: | Something's busted in alsa. |
| [17:51:00] | Dibblah: | But I don't care about that. |
| [17:51:00] | deepdelver: | is that the same as salsa ? |
| [17:51:00] | deepdelver: | :S |
| [17:51:00] | Dibblah: | mplayer -ao null -vo xshm /dev/video0 |
| [17:52:00] | deepdelver: | http://pastebin.com/362605 |
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| [17:52:00] | Dibblah: | How do you get mplayer to list the -vo options, and what's the one for plain X? |
| [17:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | -vo help |
| [17:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | -vo x11 |
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| [17:53:00] | Dibblah: | GreyFoxx: Thanks! |
| [17:53:00] | deepdelver: | mplayer -vo x11 /dev/video0 ???????? |
| [17:53:00] | Dibblah: | deepdelver: mplayer -ao null -vo x11 /dev/video0 |
| [17:53:00] | Dibblah: | deepdelver: Almost :) |
| [17:54:00] | deepdelver: | ok now he starts but i dont have any people or tv on screen |
| [17:54:00] | Dibblah: | Static? |
| [17:54:00] | deepdelver: | don know |
| [17:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | Likely not tuned, or just on the wrong input |
| [17:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | is it a solid black screen ? |
| [17:54:00] | deepdelver: | black screen with purple and green on the bottom |
| [17:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | wrong input |
| [17:55:00] | deepdelver: | last time on fc3 my tuner input was 6 |
| [17:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | coming in from coax cable ? |
| [17:56:00] | deepdelver: | yes |
| [17:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | ivtvctl -p 4 |
| [17:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | try that |
| [17:57:00] | deepdelver: | [root@localhost ~]# ivtvctl -p 4 |
| [17:57:00] | deepdelver: | bash: ivtvctl: command not found |
| [17:57:00] | deepdelver: | fixed i gue |
| [17:57:00] | deepdelver: | s |
| [17:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you installed ivtv the command is there somewhere |
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| [17:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | /usr/local/bin maybe |
| [17:57:00] | deepdelver: | nop |
| [17:57:00] | deepdelver: | [root@localhost ~]# /usr/bin/ivtvctl -p 4 |
| [17:57:00] | deepdelver: | bash: /usr/bin/ivtvctl: Onbekend bestand of map |
| [17:57:00] | Dibblah: | Or wherever it was build from. |
| [17:57:00] | deepdelver: | last time i did it from source |
| [17:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or did you ONLY install the driver and not the utils ? |
| [17:58:00] | Lonald: | In my program guide it says the correct time, so when i go to schedule a recording let say for (11am EST) in the scheduled recordings section its says (4am) |
| [17:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | in the source there is a driver directory and a utils directory |
| [17:58:00] | Lonald: | 11am Today in the Guide, but 4am Wednesday in the Recorded Schedule |
| [17:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | if you want the utilities/control programs you need to compil and install the stuff in utils as well |
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| [17:58:00] | Lonald: | when i put in "date" it gives me the correct date and time in EST |
| [17:58:00] | deepdelver: | Dibblah, utils don work either |
| [17:58:00] | Lonald: | output in term |
| [17:58:00] | Lonald: | that is |
| [17:59:00] | deepdelver: | Dibblah, i seemed to be wrong somewhere |
| [17:59:00] | deepdelver: | maibe the files we removed |
| [17:59:00] | ** GreyFoxx goes ** | |
| [17:59:00] | Dibblah: | Arf. I've been bitten by -nolisten tcp again. |
| [17:59:00] | Dibblah: | No, the files we removed were the right ones. |
| [17:59:00] | deepdelver: | ok but i cant do that command somehow |
| [17:59:00] | Dibblah: | They were duplicates of what should be provided by ivtv. |
| [18:00:00] | Dibblah: | I don't know what FC package you need to get ivtvctl. |
| [18:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | is he installing from source or from a package? |
| [18:00:00] | deepdelver: | last time that just worked but now not anymore |
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| [18:00:00] | deepdelver: | i installed from source |
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| [18:01:00] | Dibblah: | I'd suggest (now you have at least a partially working ivtv install) going back to Jarod's... |
| [18:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | then go to the source directory |
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| [18:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | cd and go into utils |
| [18:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | and type make |
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| [18:01:00] | Dibblah: | BRB – Gotta go beat up the guy that does Gentoo's build system. |
| [18:01:00] | sandos: | =) |
| [18:01:00] | ** GreyFoxx goes as well ** | |
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| [18:02:00] | deepdelver: | ok making now make install? |
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| [18:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [18:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | *gone* |
| [18:02:00] | deepdelver: | [root@localhost utils]# ivtvctl -p 4 |
| [18:02:00] | deepdelver: | ioctl VIDIOC_S_INPUT ok |
| [18:02:00] | deepdelver: | Video input set to 4 |
| [18:03:00] | deepdelver: | still same screen |
| [18:03:00] | deepdelver: | but i need to go for diner |
| [18:03:00] | deepdelver: | be back in 30 minutes |
| [18:03:00] | deepdelver: | thnx Dibblah hopefully you are there to so you can help me |
| [18:03:00] | deepdelver: | thnx already |
| [18:03:00] | deepdelver: | bye |
| [18:03:00] | Lonald: | Under Recording Schedules I have set a schedule for 11am today for channel X, airdate under RS matches this. However in Scheduled Recordings it has an airdate of today at 4pm. the correct time is 11am today. What is wrong? In a term my printout of "date" shows todays correct date and time |
| [18:04:00] | Lonald: | I did a filldb s well before doing this |
| [18:04:00] | Lonald: | should i go and delete my channels and repopulate? |
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| [19:05:00] | ** xris pokes Beirdo ** | |
| [19:06:00] | Beirdo: | yes? |
| [19:07:00] | xris: | just seeing if you're awake. :) |
| [19:07:00] | Beirdo: | barely |
| [19:07:00] | Beirdo: | had a lovely fever when I went to bed, got almost no sleep |
| [19:07:00] | Beirdo: | so I'm staying home today |
| [19:07:00] | xris: | :( |
| [19:07:00] | Beirdo: | fever's mostly gone |
| [19:08:00] | Beirdo: | and I think I've had about 4L of water so far |
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| [19:16:00] | sphing: | Beirdo: do u have asterisk as a sip client? |
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| [19:19:00] | Bog_: | hello |
| [19:20:00] | jonK: | ahoy |
| [19:20:00] | Bog_: | anyone suggest a fanless system I can use with myth? |
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| [19:21:00] | xris: | Bog_: backend and/or frontend? |
| [19:21:00] | Bog_: | it would be both |
| [19:21:00] | Bog_: | a single system to put in my living room |
| [19:22:00] | Bog_: | been looking at the EPIA boards |
| [19:22:00] | xris: | epia seems to be the preferred... |
| [19:22:00] | Bog_: | not sure which versions can go fanless |
| [19:22:00] | xris: | otherwise, I think the silverstone lc-11 is good, but I believe it does have fans. |
| [19:23:00] | xris: | (albeit quiet ones) |
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| [19:23:00] | Bog_: | I want a slim case |
| [19:24:00] | Bog_: | I also want to be able to record two live shows and watch a recorded show simultaneously |
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| [19:26:00] | Bog_: | any thoughts? |
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| [19:29:00] | Krazylegz: | What about a fanless frontend and noisy-as-hell backend? |
| [19:30:00] | jonK: | bog, then you will need three tuners (or two tuners, and more than one input on the television to switch to while two are recording) |
| [19:30:00] | jonK: | I'd really suggest the pvr500 as a dual tuner card |
| [19:30:00] | Krazylegz: | jonK: He wants to watch a recorded show, not liveTV? |
| [19:31:00] | jonK: | good point... |
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| [19:31:00] | Bog_: | krazy: all components will reside in the living room. I prefer a single fanless and quiet device |
| [19:31:00] | jonK: | ok two tuners, back to the ovr500 which has, appropriately enough, two tuners |
| [19:31:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, but the fanless case might be a problem. |
| [19:31:00] | jonK: | more than the cost of 1, but not 2x the cost of single tuner cards |
| [19:31:00] | Bog_: | jon: perfect, pvr500 |
| [19:32:00] | Krazylegz: | Also only occupies one PCI slot. |
| [19:32:00] | jonK: | also, single input for both tuners, you dont need to split |
| [19:32:00] | Bog_: | jon: will a fanless EPIA provide enough juice? |
| [19:32:00] | jonK: | no idea |
| [19:32:00] | jonK: | how much horsepower does it come with |
| [19:32:00] | Bog_: | jon: ooo.. single imput is nice.. never thought about that |
| [19:33:00] | Bog_: | lemme check |
| [19:35:00] | Krazylegz: | jonK: Do you know if the PVR-500 fits in a Pundit-R? |
| [19:37:00] | Bog_: | jonk: 733 I think |
| [19:39:00] | jonK: | dont know, but have no reason to beleive it couldnt, if it has a standard (not low profile) pci slot |
| [19:39:00] | jonK: | 733 p4? |
| [19:39:00] | jonK: | probably a bit low for simulteanous dual record and playback.. |
| [19:42:00] | Krazylegz: | On my Athlon 800, menus were slow. Big reason for me to upgrade. |
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| [19:43:00] | GeckoFiend: | jonK the epias have hardware accelerated MPEG3 playback so he's fine |
| [19:43:00] | GeckoFiend: | err MPEG2 |
| [19:44:00] | Bog_: | looking for the specific board and CPU |
| [19:44:00] | Beirdo: | sounds like a job for super-google |
| [19:44:00] | Bog_: | yeah.. there now |
| [19:45:00] | Bog_: | it's just a bit time consuming to find out the fastest cpu I can use to be fanless |
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| [19:46:00] | Bog_: | looks like there's dualies that can run fanless even! |
| [19:46:00] | DonLKSAB: | Hi all. |
| [19:47:00] | TiTAN_pi8: | hello |
| [19:47:00] | TiTAN_pi8: | anybody that can help me a bit. i got my pvr-500 working with ivtv (can watch in mplayer) but mythtv doesn't start :( |
| [19:47:00] | Bog_: | here's the link for the mobo |
| [19:47:00] | Bog_: | http://www.viaembedded.com/product/epia_sp_sp . . . rboardId=261 |
| [19:48:00] | TiTAN_pi8: | the backend gives me (among other stuff that probably isn't right): Unknown video codec |
| [19:48:00] | immolo: | if reiserfs or ext3 better for running just the linux distro that runs mythtv as my recorded shows are keeped on a different partition |
| [19:49:00] | TiTAN_pi8: | don't know much about it, but I would say reiserfs. I saw a test once and it was faster than ext3 in almost every test |
| [19:50:00] | Krazylegz: | XFS is fine too. I would stay away from ext3 for the recorded programs. |
| [19:50:00] | immolo: | I've got xfs on the other partition |
| [19:50:00] | immolo: | this is just for storing the distro it's self |
| [19:52:00] | immolo: | I'll probley go reiser |
| [19:52:00] | TiTAN_pi8: | so anybody that can help me with the pvr-500? |
| [19:58:00] | TiTAN_pi8: | I also get: VIDOCGMBUF:: Invalid argument |
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| [20:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | seeing VIDOCGMBUF usually means that you told myth the wrong card type. Likely to set it to Standard V4l instead of the pvr x50/Mpeg Encoder |
| [20:03:00] | DonLKSAB: | Is there anyway to get more info about a error when compiling? |
| [20:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | Do you mean add debug code to myth or have gcc/g++ spit out a more verbose compiling error ? |
| [20:04:00] | DonLKSAB: | The second |
| [20:04:00] | DonLKSAB: | Im trying to solve a problem :-) |
| [20:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | nothing I know of offhand. |
| [20:05:00] | DonLKSAB: | ok |
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| [20:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | there could very well be a verbose flag of some sort, I've just never looked for it |
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| [20:06:00] | DonLKSAB: | Its not easy to fix compile error when you cant code at all :-) |
| [20:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | Most errors are pretty clear, but some can be a pain :) |
| [20:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | believe me, you learn more from broken stuff than you do for things that "just work" :) |
| [20:09:00] | DonLKSAB: | Yeah |
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| [20:12:00] | Bog_: | will an EPIA SP 800Mhz (w/integrated MPEG2 decoder / MPEG5 accelerator) and pvr500 be powerfull enough as a front and backend to record two live programs and playback a recorded program simultaneously? |
| [20:13:00] | travolta: | yes |
| [20:14:00] | Bog_: | thanks, now to find a suitable slim case |
| [20:15:00] | DonLKSAB: | dvbrecorder.cpp: In member function `void |
| [20:15:00] | DonLKSAB: | DVBRecorder::ChannelChanged(dvb_channel_t&)': |
| [20:15:00] | DonLKSAB: | Im going nuts :-) |
| [20:22:00] | GeckoFiend: | Bog_ check out the silverstone lc09 |
| [20:22:00] | GeckoFiend: | it's VERY small |
| [20:22:00] | Bog_: | ok |
| [20:24:00] | TiTAN_pi8: | I got video to work, but I can't seem to switch stations |
| [20:24:00] | Bog_: | I really like Alienware's DHS2... a retro looking VCR style |
| [20:25:00] | Bog_: | gecko: the alienware hides a media reader. I'd like a slot loading DVD though |
| [20:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nifty lookin case. ESPECIALLY if I can program those 7 front buttons to play/top/ffw/etc |
| [20:27:00] | Bog_: | grey: I think thats the idea |
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| [20:27:00] | GeckoFiend: | Bog_ got a link? |
| [20:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Do they sell just the case? Or do you have to buy a "media center? |
| [20:27:00] | Bog_: | grey: have to buy the whole pc |
| [20:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Bah |
| [20:27:00] | GeckoFiend: | ug |
| [20:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | that sucks |
| [20:28:00] | Bog_: | gecko: www.alienware.com |
| [20:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | Otherwise I might have bought one |
| [20:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'e been looking for a case that loooked like that with the lcd and buttons |
| [20:28:00] | Bog_: | grey: all the alienware is missing is a slot loading DVD |
| [20:28:00] | GeckoFiend: | yeah I wouyldn't mind something a little bigger than this LC09 for my Commel |
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| [20:28:00] | Chutt: | hey, it's a geckofiend |
| [20:28:00] | GeckoFiend: | heya chutt |
| [20:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Bog_: That'd be ok with me, I prefer tray's :) |
| [20:29:00] | Bog_: | I'd love to find someone who could do a custom case |
| [20:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | Atech does them. And I would have one in heartbeat if I could convince myself to buy one |
| [20:31:00] | Bog_: | u know a url for atech? |
| [20:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.atechfabrication.com/HTPC_cases.htm |
| [20:31:00] | Bog_: | thanks |
| [20:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | 3k,4k and 5k make me drool |
| [20:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've been coveting one for years :) |
| [20:32:00] | Bog_: | oooo very nice |
| [20:33:00] | GeckoFiend: | Bog_ he's working on a mini-itx case now |
| [20:33:00] | Bog_: | yummy |
| [20:34:00] | Bog_: | does he have any sample designs? |
| [20:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'd love to have the control buttons, and volume knob on it. and not just look like some sort of drive bay insert :) |
| [20:34:00] | Bog_: | yeah.. dont know what I need knobs for though |
| [20:34:00] | Bog_: | I want to replace my scientific america pvr |
| [20:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm often standing near the machine and want to lower the volume, yet have to find the remote or do it on the receiver |
| [20:35:00] | Bog_: | my wife let me subscribe to pvr from my cable service provider to see what it's like |
| [20:35:00] | Chutt: | eww, you change the volume on your myth box? |
| [20:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh I do :) |
| [20:35:00] | Bog_: | we're both hooked on pvr cabailities |
| [20:36:00] | Bog_: | and now I want something I can copy programs off of |
| [20:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'd love to get some sort of volume stabilization going on though. I'll watch a downloaded video and have to run up the volume , then go back to TV/recorded show and have to rapidly lower the volume as it's way to high |
| [20:37:00] | GeckoFiend: | GreyFoxx uggg you use the computer as an amp? |
| [20:37:00] | ** mocker considers cancelling netflix and signing up for LxM. ** | |
| [20:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | If that is what you consider using the volume controls in myth |
| [20:38:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, you could easily add a normalize loop into the audio for transcoding |
| [20:38:00] | Bog_: | mock: whats lxm? |
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| [20:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | I watch video A in mythvideo/internal player. The audio is low enough that I either turn it up in myth's volume controls OR directly on the receiver. Then I go to watch TV recording B and the audio is so much higher than I have to turn down the receiver. |
| [20:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | just as annoying as when you turn up the volume on a tv show just to have commercials come on at twice the volume :) |
| [20:41:00] | PatrickDK: | heh |
| [20:41:00] | mocker: | Bog_: http://wilsonet.com/blog/?p=23 |
| [20:42:00] | Chutt: | just use the receiver :p |
| [20:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Chutt: I do, but if I could "normalize" the volume of what is sent to the receiver I wouldn't have to change either |
| [20:43:00] | Chutt: | yeah, but that'd make things sound crappy |
| [20:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | turn up receiver for a "quiet" show , then have some loud commercial come on aand deafen me |
| [20:43:00] | PatrickDK: | not if you use a real normalizer |
| [20:44:00] | PatrickDK: | normalizers don't kill the quality |
| [20:44:00] | PatrickDK: | they just add or subtract a set number from the audio pcm |
| [20:44:00] | mocker: | Does anyone know if the recommendation stuff is working w/ 18.1 from the LxM suite? |
| [20:45:00] | Chutt: | of course it's not |
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| [20:46:00] | GeckoFiend: | mocker nothing is happening on the LxM front |
| [20:47:00] | GeckoFiend: | the company behind it didn't listen to me, or chutt or anyone else and made wildly optimistic projections for subscribers. Now they're losing money on the deal and haven't paid for any additional development beyond more themes |
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| [20:48:00] | GeckoFiend: | they *do* have a handful of deals for non-myth subscribers pending that should but LxMSuite.com into the black then we might see something from them |
| [20:49:00] | mocker: | Ahh. |
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| [20:49:00] | mocker: | GeckoFiend: That's good to know. :) |
| [20:49:00] | mocker: | Well, good and ad. |
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| [20:49:00] | mocker: | er, sad. |
| [20:50:00] | GeckoFiend: | I was working on a podcast aggregator for their website befroe shit went into the drink... I may tweak finish it up for anyone to use. |
| [20:50:00] | beavis: | is anyone using the LIRC_SERIAL module? |
| [20:51:00] | TiTAN_pi8: | anyone that can tell me why I can't change channels? i'm using the ivtv driver but i have not entered the ptune command in mythtv-setup but the backend seems to keep using it |
| [20:51:00] | GeckoFiend: | mocker LxMSuite.com *should* continue on and grow. I'm just frsutrated with the company behind it because they made promises to me, and I made very public statemenbts based on theose promises and they dropped the ball |
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| [20:51:00] | elarkin: | hey allo |
| [20:52:00] | elarkin: | all. |
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| [20:52:00] | Sneaker__: | does mythfrontend keep logs? |
| [20:52:00] | elarkin: | can anyone point me in the right direction to setup a media center remote with Mythtv |
| [20:52:00] | Sneaker__: | It crashed and I would like to know why |
| [20:52:00] | elarkin: | Sneaker_ yes it can but has to be enabled |
| [20:52:00] | Sneaker__: | damn. |
| [20:53:00] | elarkin: | default output should be sent to your /var/log/messages file though |
| [20:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | I doubt that |
| [20:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | myth doesn't use syslog |
| [20:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | --logfile /path/to/filename.log |
| [20:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | though it might be in /var/log if a packager has an init script default to it |
| [20:55:00] | mocker: | GeckoFiend: Did most of this stuff go down on the mythtv-users list? |
| [20:56:00] | elarkin: | GreyFoxx do oyu know if you can use a usb remote mce edition with myth? |
| [20:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm sure I've seen people talk about using it in here along with a URL to instructions on configuring it |
| [20:57:00] | GeckoFiend: | mocker nah there's not been any mention of it afaik. I don't read -users much |
| [20:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | You might be able to find it by searching the channel logs (which I have never done personally) that are linked off http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/ |
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| [20:58:00] | elarkin: | thakns Grey ill try that |
| [20:58:00] | Pio: | anyone here familiar with a bug or misconfiguration that causes mythtv to only record the left channel? |
| [20:59:00] | Pio: | when i google around i see several people with the same problem.. |
| [20:59:00] | Pio: | and i've had this problem mysteriously come and go on my myth box for yeras |
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| [21:02:00] | TiTAN_pi8: | nobody that can tell me why I can't change channels? |
| [21:02:00] | TiTAN_pi8: | ptune works manually |
| [21:03:00] | mocker: | TiTAN_pi8: Is mythbackend running for sure? Have you made sure that the mythfilldatabase didn't bomb out? |
| [21:04:00] | mocker: | I ran into that quite some time ago but don't remember the fix. |
| [21:04:00] | TiTAN_pi8: | mocker, yep it is running |
| [21:05:00] | mocker: | Try rerunning the mythfilldatabase. |
| [21:05:00] | TiTAN_pi8: | something strange though: in mythtv-setup i have 3 channels but in mythfrontend i can only select one by pressing the up/down keys on my keyboard |
| [21:05:00] | TiTAN_pi8: | is there another way to select channels? maybe get a channel list? |
| [21:07:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, another way? |
| [21:07:00] | PatrickDK: | type in the chnnel number |
| [21:08:00] | PatrickDK: | bring up the guide |
| [21:08:00] | TiTAN_pi8: | yes in windows media center you can get a list of all channels and select one |
| [21:08:00] | TiTAN_pi8: | how do i bring up the guide |
| [21:08:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, the guide button |
| [21:08:00] | TiTAN_pi8: | and that is? |
| [21:08:00] | PatrickDK: | I dunno, I use my remote |
| [21:08:00] | PatrickDK: | not a keyboard |
| [21:08:00] | PatrickDK: | I used to display the menu |
| [21:09:00] | PatrickDK: | then select it from that |
| [21:09:00] | TiTAN_pi8: | i'm sorry for not reading the docs about it but the reason for that is that i want to get everything up and running before taht |
| [21:09:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, I never used a keyboard with mythtv |
| [21:09:00] | Krazylegz: | Press 'm' for the episode guide. |
| [21:09:00] | TiTAN_pi8: | haven't seen an option to get to the guide |
| [21:09:00] | TiTAN_pi8: | k |
| [21:09:00] | Krazylegz: | There is a keys.txt file you can read. |
| [21:09:00] | PatrickDK: | or just look at the database settings |
| [21:09:00] | TiTAN_pi8: | the guide doesn't seem to work |
| [21:10:00] | PatrickDK: | are you using xmltv? |
| [21:10:00] | PatrickDK: | that downloads the guide info |
| [21:10:00] | TiTAN_pi8: | i get the screen where you are supposed to get all the channels listed, but there are no channels listed. when I press the down key it exits with segmentation fault |
| [21:11:00] | TiTAN_pi8: | yes i am using xmltv but i live in belgium and mythtv doens't have that in the list so i renamed tv_grab_be to tv_grab_nl |
| [21:11:00] | xris: | ahh, moon cake season again... |
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| [21:15:00] | Krazylegz: | What are moon cakes? |
| [21:18:00] | PatrickDK: | you don't want to know |
| [21:19:00] | Krazylegz: | How do you know? :-) |
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| [21:23:00] | Krazylegz: | Chinese food? |
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| [21:35:00] | fryfrog: | does ivtv have issues with 2.6.13? |
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| [21:40:00] | eiggirC: | Hardware question – what is special about the new hauppage cards that say "MCE" ? |
| [21:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nothin |
| [21:41:00] | eiggirC: | will they still work with the ivtv stuff? google isn't very helpful |
| [21:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | They should yes? I've seen people complain about getting the 150MCE's to work, but most appear to get them going without too much trouble |
| [21:41:00] | eiggirC: | theres a low profile format of the PVR150 thats $183 NZ, compared to $250 NZ for the fill height one. |
| [21:42:00] | eiggirC: | low profile cheaper than normal profile... very odd. |
| [21:42:00] | PatrickDK: | that is cause it doesn't have the extra a/v inputs |
| [21:42:00] | PatrickDK: | or was it outputs |
| [21:47:00] | eiggirC: | fair enough – but normally one would pay a premium for that size |
| [21:47:00] | PatrickDK: | ya |
| [21:47:00] | PatrickDK: | I ordered a low profile video card |
| [21:47:00] | PatrickDK: | cause I finally found one that I liked |
| [21:47:00] | PatrickDK: | and when I got it, was full size |
| [21:47:00] | PatrickDK: | so sent it back |
| [21:48:00] | eiggirC: | I'm looking at a new tuner card – whats a good card ? Hauppage 150 or 500, or a pinnacle PCTV pro? |
| [21:48:00] | eiggirC: | its for a mythbox in the long run |
| [21:48:00] | eiggirC: | I've got a skanky philips based one at the moment |
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| [21:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | I personally wont use a framegrabber. I like having all of the compression work done by the card |
| [21:51:00] | Pio: | this left channel only thing is driving me nuts |
| [21:52:00] | PatrickDK: | framegrabbers also risk dropping frames |
| [21:55:00] | ned: | What's a framegrabber? |
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| [21:56:00] | PatrickDK: | pinnacle pctv, hauppage wintv |
| [21:56:00] | eiggirC: | ned: I understand that a framegrabber is just that – an interface between the picture source and the PCI bus. Then the compression happens in software. |
| [21:57:00] | eiggirC: | ned: what PatrickDK prefers is a card with an on-board mpeg 2 compressor, so theres a dedicated chip for compressing the data stream. |
| [21:57:00] | nuonguy: | How is that different than a hauppage pvr x50? |
| [21:57:00] | eiggirC: | ned: ie, a WinTVTuner compared to a hardware TVTunrer |
| [21:57:00] | nuonguy: | ah |
| [21:57:00] | eiggirC: | like those crap winmodems |
| [21:57:00] | nuonguy: | Which models are frame grabbers? |
| [21:58:00] | eiggirC: | nuonguy: the cheap ones |
| [21:58:00] | eiggirC: | nuonguy: they need a "Mpeg-2" compression chip on board |
| [21:59:00] | nuonguy: | I have an avertv card: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Searc . . . Sku=A46-4060 |
| [21:59:00] | nuonguy: | It doesn't mention anything about mpeg in hardware, so it's probably just a frame grabber? |
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| [22:02:00] | eiggirC: | nuonguy: probably – was it cheap? |
| [22:02:00] | eiggirC: | nuonguy: not that cheap is a bad thing |
| [22:02:00] | nuonguy: | Yeah, $39.99 at Fry's with a $20 mail in rebate |
| [22:02:00] | eiggirC: | cheap would be perfect for a webcam or periodic snapshots |
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| [22:02:00] | glen: | hi where can i find setup screen where to change transcode settings? |
| [22:03:00] | glen: | ie to what format recorded movies are later encoded to |
| [22:03:00] | eiggirC: | glen: no idea sorry |
| [22:03:00] | ** eiggirC goes to work. ** | |
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| [22:04:00] | eiggirC: | PatrickDK: thanks for the suggestions – I'll look into their provided software too (wife wants it in her windows machine short-term) |
| [22:04:00] | glen: | ie once i transcoded movie and it was still around 2gigs for 50minutes of tv-recording, that's too big |
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| [22:04:00] | eiggirC: | agreed |
| [22:05:00] | JaZy84: | i get unknonw video and audio codics on my mythbackend dialog when i run mythfrontend and try to watch tv and ideas and on the frontend while watching tv i just get a blue screen i can change the channels but with no luck |
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| [22:05:00] | glen: | JaZy84: permissions okay for mythbackend process on v4l device? |
| [22:05:00] | jnsc: | Hi everybody |
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| [22:06:00] | JaZy84: | not sure.. can i just chmod the /dev/video0 ? |
| [22:06:00] | jnsc: | I am trying to setup a mythtv box with the last knoppmyth and I'am getting In troubles |
| [22:06:00] | jnsc: | My main problem seems to be my pvr 500 card |
| [22:06:00] | jnsc: | is there an pvr 500 expert in the chan? |
| [22:07:00] | JaZy84: | i'm using a bt848 with the default settings |
| [22:08:00] | glen: | JaZy84: temporarily to see if that's the problem yes chmod 666 the device |
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| [22:12:00] | JaZy84: | i chmod 666 on /dev/video0 and /dev/dsp and still blue screen when i try to play tv. i get no audio/video |
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| [22:13:00] | Pio: | can you get video in non-myth applications? |
| [22:13:00] | Pio: | tvtime/xawtv/zapper etc |
| [22:13:00] | JaZy84: | haven't tried any of those. |
| [22:13:00] | JaZy84: | should i try out tvtime? |
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| [22:14:00] | Twiggy: | Hey I got this whack issue with shifting between Watch TV and the normal menu and myth turns down my PCM volume every time |
| [22:14:00] | Twiggy: | is there a way to make that stop? |
| [22:14:00] | Pio: | with my bt848, i need to actually pass a tuner= and card= option to the kernel module specifying exactly what card and tuner chipset i have |
| [22:14:00] | Pio: | JaZy84, couldnt hurt |
| [22:14:00] | JaZy84: | alright lemme give that a try |
| [22:14:00] | Pio: | its easier to test with those apps because they are less complicated in general |
| [22:14:00] | JaZy84: | alright sounds good |
| [22:14:00] | JaZy84: | i'll try tvtime |
| [22:15:00] | nuonguy: | JaXy84: Before you try passing options to your module, look at the output of dmesg and see if it finds your card and tuner etc |
| [22:15:00] | Pio: | yeah truedat |
| [22:16:00] | JaZy84: | where? that message be on the backend portion running? |
| [22:16:00] | JaZy84: | or dmesg bttv ? |
| [22:16:00] | Pio: | no, dmesg shows messages from your kernel |
| [22:16:00] | Pio: | just run 'dmesg' |
| [22:16:00] | Pio: | in a terminal |
| [22:16:00] | nuonguy: | JaZy84: just go to a command line prompt and type 'dmesg' |
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| [22:16:00] | nuonguy: | without the quotes, obviously |
| [22:16:00] | glen: | JaZy84: try xawtv, it's simple x11 application, tvtime is probably too big just for testing :) |
| [22:16:00] | JaZy84: | :) |
| [22:16:00] | JaZy84: | alright i'll give taht one a try |
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| [22:17:00] | JaZy84: | hold on booting up yet |
| [22:17:00] | glen: | JaZy84: and with xawtv if you get blue screen, try xawtv -noxv |
| [22:17:00] | glen: | and if that solves you have no xv extension working |
| [22:18:00] | nuonguy: | I've never had a setup with any kind of time shifting or any kind of commercial skip ability, so I'm just loving the myth tv experience, even though it took quite the effort to set up |
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| [22:19:00] | JaZy84: | oh btw dmesg shows alot of my bt848 card info |
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| [22:20:00] | JaZy84: | going to try xawtv now |
| [22:20:00] | glen: | nuonguy: oh yeah, me too (having quite effort for setting up), as i built it for amd64 with %{_lib} == lib64 |
| [22:20:00] | glen: | luckily i made good .spec out of it |
| [22:20:00] | nuonguy: | heh |
| [22:21:00] | nuonguy: | I didn't have my x86_x64 install DVD handy, so I just installed i386 – I'm going to reformat and start over with x86_64 |
| [22:21:00] | nuonguy: | glen: what distro do you use? |
| [22:21:00] | glen: | nuonguy: PLD Linux |
| [22:22:00] | JaZy84: | PLD? |
| [22:22:00] | nuonguy: | PLD? Never heard of it? |
| [22:22:00] | glen: | yeah |
| [22:22:00] | glen: | www.pld-linux.org |
| [22:24:00] | nuonguy: | pld-linux.org won't load for me ... |
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| [22:26:00] | Krazylegz: | Same here. |
| [22:26:00] | JaZy84: | pld.org |
| [22:27:00] | glen: | pld.org is different thing (it's some other split, ie the project did split once) |
| [22:27:00] | Krazylegz: | That's not right either. |
| [22:27:00] | Krazylegz: | Did you guys try pld.org? |
| [22:27:00] | glen: | ie pld.org.pl is the other part of the split, which i believe is suspended |
| [22:28:00] | glen: | no www.pld-linux.org is the right one, probably it's just fucked up :) |
| [22:28:00] | glen: | but cvs is up, that's all i care :) |
| [22:28:00] | glen: | http://cvs.pld-linux.org/SPECS/mythtv.spec |
| [22:29:00] | Twiggy: | Hey I got this whack issue with shifting between Watch TV and the normal menu and myth turns down my PCM volume every time |
| [22:29:00] | JaZy84: | xawtv and xawtv -noxv both give me blue screen i can change the settings put.. it doesnt do anyting the more i think about it.. the more i think it's the card.. hrm |
| [22:30:00] | Twiggy: | anybody know how ot lock my alsa settings so that doesn't happen? |
| [22:31:00] | JaZy84: | the cable might not work here in this room.. could that cause the blue screen? |
| [22:31:00] | glen: | JaZy84: is the input proper selected for xawtv? |
| [22:31:00] | JaZy84: | yeah, television |
| [22:32:00] | JaZy84: | i'm using coax |
| [22:32:00] | JaZy84: | if there is no input does it give a blue scren, cuz the cable in the room i'm in might not work. never actually tested it with a tv. |
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| [22:34:00] | bjohnson: | I've been buying previously viewed dvds at blockbuster lately. I was thinking of making a script to dl the current price list and email it to myself (also with a diff of the previous version) once a week. |
| [22:35:00] | bjohnson: | Has anyone already done something like that? I can do most of it, but I don't know how to convert the html to csv style fields |
| [22:38:00] | shunter: | bjohnson, Perl is your friend |
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| [22:40:00] | nuonguy: | JaZy84: try: tvtime-scanner |
| [22:40:00] | nuonguy: | JaZy84: this takes a long time (maybe 1/2 hour?) but let it finish |
| [22:40:00] | nuonguy: | JaZy84: And then invoke tvtime -f custom |
| [22:40:00] | JaZy84: | need to get tvtime |
| [22:40:00] | nuonguy: | I used that to see if my tuner was actually getting anything at all |
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| [22:46:00] | JaZy84: | it's scanning right meow |
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| [22:48:00] | JaZy84: | keeps saying no signal. |
| [22:48:00] | JaZy84: | maybe it's the cable? |
| [22:48:00] | JaZy84: | well the cable coming into this room |
| [22:49:00] | glen: | no signal means there's no signal :) |
| [22:49:00] | glen: | cable is the problem |
| [22:50:00] | Pio: | did you confirm in dmesg that the bt848 driver is using the correct card and tuner settings? |
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| [22:55:00] | JaZy84: | yeah under dmesg i'm pertty sure it's all right |
| [22:55:00] | JaZy84: | i'm going to try my ps2 |
| [22:55:00] | JaZy84: | ... with it right now |
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| [22:58:00] | JaZy84: | heh |
| [22:58:00] | JaZy84: | yeah |
| [22:58:00] | JaZy84: | it works with my ps2 |
| [22:58:00] | JaZy84: | now to see if myth works.. |
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| [23:04:00] | JaZy84: | how can i change the input for myth |
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| [23:06:00] | JaZy84: | C change inputs on TV Tuner card as posted by website doesn't do anything as far as change the input |
| [23:07:00] | Chutt: | if it doesn't change the input, you don't have the additional inputs mapped to channels |
| [23:08:00] | JaZy84: | chutt how can i map inputs to different channels? mythtv-setup? |
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| [23:11:00] | GeckoFiend: | JaZy84 it's pretty damn clear how to do that in the setup app |
| [23:13:00] | JaZy84: | no i was asking if it was done in the setup app |
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| [23:19:00] | Pio: | heh 'snow crash' nick? |
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| [23:20:00] | thechris: | More PVR 500 MCE issues — how do i get tuner1 to work? |
| [23:20:00] | thechris: | i have tuner0 working just fine |
| [23:20:00] | NamShub: | yup |
| [23:21:00] | NamShub: | is this a correct channel for help with ivtv? |
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| [23:22:00] | thechris: | it would be a good choice |
| [23:22:00] | NamShub: | i cant compile any version (on kubuntu hoary with 2.6.10) |
| [23:23:00] | thechris: | i bet i know why... |
| [23:23:00] | NamShub: | (i tried 0.2.0rc3, 0.3.7 and 0.3.9 — they all failed on msp3400.o) |
| [23:23:00] | thechris: | gcc -v |
| [23:23:00] | NamShub: | gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5–8ubuntu2) |
| [23:23:00] | thechris: | hmm, in that case it should work just fine |
| [23:23:00] | thechris: | i though ubuntu had gone with gcc4 |
| [23:24:00] | Chutt: | ask the ivtv list |
| [23:24:00] | NamShub: | ok, will do |
| [23:24:00] | thechris: | 0.3.8 works for me, with no issues |
| [23:24:00] | thechris: | at least compile issues |
| [23:24:00] | thechris: | i can only get 1 tuner to work. |
| [23:24:00] | NamShub: | its all a bunch of errors in the kernel headers, actually, complaining about error: storage size of `ia_mtime' isn't known or similar |
| [23:25:00] | shunter: | NamShub, have you tried upgrading your kernel? |
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| [23:26:00] | NamShub: | shunter: no |
| [23:26:00] | NamShub: | should i? |
| [23:26:00] | shunter: | NamShub, it's worth a shot. Or, do as Chutt said and post to the ivtv mailing list. |
| [23:26:00] | thechris: | maybe upgrade your kernel-headers? |
| [23:27:00] | shunter: | NamShub, you are using 2.6 headers, correct? |
| [23:28:00] | thechris: | i really hate this. no one knows how to fix my problem |
| [23:28:00] | thechris: | its just "it works fine here" |
| [23:28:00] | NamShub: | yes |
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| [23:29:00] | NamShub: | i followed instruction from http://www.cs.rit.edu/~css8044/?q=ivtv# |
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| [23:31:00] | NamShub: | can i run a frontend on a machine without having a properly-working backend? (ie. only to listen to music and play MAME until everything is fixed)? |
| [23:32:00] | thechris: | yesterday it worked just fine. today it records 6 hours of soap operas instead of what i want... |
| [23:32:00] | thechris: | Oh, and that might be a mythtv issue at that |
| [23:32:00] | thechris: | it doesn't change the channel before recording |
| [23:33:00] | Chutt: | that's a tuner issue |
| [23:33:00] | thechris: | though ptune.pl --input /dev/video1 --tuner-num 1 fails |
| [23:33:00] | thechris: | though it did work yesterday |
| [23:33:00] | thechris: | any ideas on how to fix it ? |
| [23:33:00] | Chutt: | ask the ivtv list. |
| [23:34:00] | thechris: | oh, can i manully edit the mythsetup information from the CLI? |
| [23:34:00] | Chutt: | of course, if you're familiar with the mysql schema |
| [23:35:00] | thechris: | hmm i'm not |
| [23:35:00] | thechris: | guess that means i'll be recording off channel 4 until i get home |
| [23:36:00] | thechris: | and tell mythtv to use only tuner 0 until this all gets sorted out. |
| [23:36:00] | Krazylegz: | Maybe MythWeb would help you a bit? |
| [23:36:00] | Chutt: | um, if ptune.pl fails |
| [23:36:00] | Chutt: | what makes you think that changing settings in myth is going to do anything? |
| [23:37:00] | Chutt: | and you can always export the display |
| [23:38:00] | thechris: | ptune only fails for tuner1 |
| [23:39:00] | thechris: | i could set myth up for tuner0 for the rest of the day |
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| [23:39:00] | thechris: | I really hate ivtv... breaks everytime i reboot |
| [23:39:00] | thechris: | can't wait until i get it stable |
| [23:39:00] | macroexp: | thechris, what kind of card |
| [23:39:00] | thechris: | pvr 500 mce |
| [23:40:00] | thechris: | can't change channels on tuner1 |
| [23:40:00] | macroexp: | you running 0.3.8? |
| [23:40:00] | thechris: | and myth is currently set to record on tuner1 |
| [23:40:00] | thechris: | yes |
| [23:40:00] | thechris: | so all day, i've been inadvertantly recording channel4 soap operas. |
| [23:40:00] | thechris: | however, it did work just fine last night... |
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| [23:42:00] | macroexp: | they say (i haven't seen it happen but) that these cards hold settings for ridiculous amounts of time, and that you should power down for several minutes instead of rebooting |
| [23:42:00] | macroexp: | or something like that :) |
| [23:44:00] | thechris: | but why would it work yesterdya, then break? |
| [23:44:00] | thechris: | guess i'll try that anyways |
| [23:44:00] | thechris: | turn it off now, then try it again when i get home |
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| [23:54:00] | Sneaker__: | Is there a option in a myth-tv that would do this: When I begin recording of show in the middle of it, the mythtv would check the "buffer" and start the recording as early as possible to record? |
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| [23:56:00] | Krazylegz: | Yes, that would be handy. |
| [23:56:00] | Sneaker__: | but its not implemented yet? |
| [23:57:00] | macroexp: | i'm having trouble getting a slave backend running on ubuntu... everything works but there's no mythjobqueue executable? |
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| [23:57:00] | mchou: | anyone happen to know if ivtv works on the hauppauge "Amity 2" design? |
| [23:58:00] | macroexp: | maybe my question is, what is the best source for ubuntu myth packages? |
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