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| [00:00:00] | JamMini: | np |
| [00:02:00] | NightBird: | ok... now to install the extras.. |
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| [00:06:00] | kgbudz: | anyone have any recommendations on video cards? |
| [00:08:00] | PatrickDK: | geforce 5xxx |
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| [00:11:00] | kgbudz: | i cant get my geforce4 mx4000 to work in linux |
| [00:11:00] | kgbudz: | if i get a new one, i hope it works |
| [00:12:00] | laga: | my geforce 4 mx 440 works fine |
| [00:12:00] | kgbudz: | im sure |
| [00:12:00] | redf0x: | my laptop has a geforce 440 which works great too |
| [00:13:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, that should be fine |
| [00:13:00] | PatrickDK: | there are many people using that |
| [00:13:00] | kgbudz: | a lot of people seem to have issues with the nvidia drivers not working |
| [00:13:00] | simcop2387: | whoa i just got a free error from glibc |
| [00:13:00] | kgbudz: | according to the nvidia message board |
| [00:14:00] | ascii`: | simcop2387, u know why i get sound in xawtv, but not MythTV? |
| [00:14:00] | redf0x: | kgbudz, are you using an mx4000 or 440? |
| [00:15:00] | redf0x: | I've never heard of the 4000 |
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| [00:15:00] | kgbudz: | geforce4 mx 4000 |
| [00:16:00] | kgbudz: | freezes instantly when x loads |
| [00:16:00] | kgbudz: | works fine in windows |
| [00:16:00] | redf0x: | using nv or nvidia drivers? |
| [00:17:00] | kgbudz: | nvidia |
| [00:17:00] | redf0x: | does x load with nv drivers? |
| [00:19:00] | kgbudz: | nope |
| [00:19:00] | kgbudz: | nvidia |
| [00:19:00] | kgbudz: | trust me, this is a well documented issue with no solutions in my case |
| [00:20:00] | kgbudz: | that im aware of |
| [00:20:00] | redf0x: | alright |
| [00:20:00] | redf0x: | anyways, if you are looking for a new card for myth, go with Patrick's suggustion |
| [00:22:00] | ascii`: | kgbudz, u have to use the 'nv' drivers..not the nvidia..then it freezes.. |
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| [00:24:00] | kgbudz: | are the nv drivers any good? |
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| [00:26:00] | redf0x: | not really, they don't do 3d accel |
| [00:27:00] | redf0x: | but if you are just using myth, they should be fine |
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| [00:28:00] | kgbudz: | where do i find these drivers, all im seeing are the nvidia ones |
| [00:28:00] | redf0x: | they come with x |
| [00:28:00] | laga: | they come with X |
| [00:29:00] | kgbudz: | no newer version? |
| [00:29:00] | laga: | darn, you beat me to it ;) |
| [00:29:00] | redf0x: | ;-) |
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| [00:30:00] | NightBird: | hm... how would I give permissions to a directory to a user? |
| [00:30:00] | NightBird: | in linux |
| [00:30:00] | redf0x: | NightBird, usually you put the user in a group with permissions to that directory |
| [00:30:00] | kgbudz: | chmod |
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| [00:31:00] | redf0x: | or you can make the user own that directory, if you just need it for one user |
| [00:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or if that user is the only one to be using the directory chown it |
| [00:31:00] | NightBird: | hm... that sounds like a plan |
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| [00:32:00] | NightBird: | do I need to do something in particular so that all sub directories are owned by that person? |
| [00:32:00] | redf0x: | chown -R |
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| [00:35:00] | NightBird: | gah.... why can't I change the channel? |
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| [00:47:00] | Ediehow: | eek |
| [00:47:00] | Ediehow: | help |
| [00:47:00] | Ediehow: | tne power button stopped working on my remote again:O after reboot |
| [00:49:00] | cosmo_: | what happens when I have 1 backend, with 1 tuner, and two remote frontends watching livetv, and one of the frontends requests a channel change? Does the other frontend see the change? |
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| [00:50:00] | kgbudz: | nope |
| [00:50:00] | kgbudz: | wait |
| [00:50:00] | kgbudz: | 1 tuner? |
| [00:50:00] | cosmo_: | yup |
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| [00:50:00] | kgbudz: | if you have 1 tuner, only 1 frontend can watch livetv |
| [00:51:00] | cosmo_: | hmm, what about recorded programs, can 2 frontends watch two different previously recorded files? |
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| [00:52:00] | Ediehow: | i don't get it |
| [00:52:00] | Ediehow: | irexec is running |
| [00:52:00] | Ediehow: | irxevent i mean |
| [00:52:00] | kgbudz: | cosmo, you can watch any number of recorded programs |
| [00:52:00] | Ediehow: | if i start irw, it says this on hitting botton |
| [00:52:00] | Ediehow: | button |
| [00:52:00] | Ediehow: | 000000000000002f 00 Power PinnacleSysPCTVRemote |
| [00:53:00] | kgbudz: | on any number of front ends at the same time |
| [00:53:00] | kgbudz: | but live tv needs to have 1 tuner per frontend\ |
| [00:53:00] | kgbudz: | get it? |
| [00:53:00] | cosmo_: | yup, makes sense to me, just wasn't sure if two could share a live stream |
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| [00:53:00] | kgbudz: | nope |
| [00:54:00] | Ediehow: | what's the best multimedia daemon for the extra keys |
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| [01:00:00] | NightBird: | ....hm.. |
| [01:00:00] | NightBird: | why would it not change the channel? |
| [01:00:00] | NightBird: | it's acting as if the only channel is cartoon network... |
| [01:00:00] | NightBird: | not there there is anything wrong with that |
| [01:00:00] | NightBird: | but.. |
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| [01:00:00] | cosmo_: | jonny bravo rocks |
| [01:01:00] | NightBird: | yes |
| [01:01:00] | NightBird: | but we need more then just this channel... |
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| [01:01:00] | cosmo_: | ;) |
| [01:01:00] | cosmo_: | sorry, trying to be optimistic |
| [01:03:00] | kgbudz: | i cant seem to get my nv drivers to work |
| [01:03:00] | kgbudz: | im switching back from nvidia -> nv |
| [01:03:00] | kgbudz: | my screen is all messed up |
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| [01:10:00] | eiggirC: | Hey all – would a P3 866 be sufficient grunt for mythtv? |
| [01:11:00] | soi-disant: | depends... Hardware encoder card? backend only? |
| [01:11:00] | soi-disant: | then probably yes |
| [01:12:00] | eiggirC: | its a lifeview pci tuner card – so its all software. uses a philips SAA7134 chip which works well in linux. |
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| [01:13:00] | NightBird: | does anyone know why this might be doing this? |
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| [01:13:00] | eiggirC: | currently the tuner is in a windows XP box, and the software doesn't really schedule properly, and sound is quite iffy. Our VCR packed up recently and you can't buy a new simple VCR any more. I can't really justify the cost of a DVD recorder or anything |
| [01:14:00] | soi-disant: | mythdocs section 3.1 has some data |
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| [01:16:00] | eiggirC: | soi-disant: thanks – the faq had nothing on hardware suggestions. I'll look at it |
| [01:17:00] | pucky: | anyone have any luck getting pvr_150 ir blaster working? |
| [01:21:00] | eiggirC: | seems a P3 866 will be fine but only for recording OR watching. |
| [01:21:00] | eiggirC: | Has anyone made use of the windows front end for mythtv? |
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| [01:23:00] | kgbudz: | yes |
| [01:23:00] | kgbudz: | winmyth |
| [01:23:00] | NightBird: | where is the forums for myth? |
| [01:23:00] | soi-disant: | online |
| [01:23:00] | kgbudz: | there is a email list |
| [01:25:00] | kgbudz: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ |
| [01:25:00] | eiggirC: | kgbudz: did you ever try it? the mythtv homepage suggests its not that good. |
| [01:27:00] | kgbudz: | its not great |
| [01:27:00] | kgbudz: | it works |
| [01:27:00] | kgbudz: | you can watch tv/recordings |
| [01:27:00] | kgbudz: | get listings |
| [01:29:00] | eiggirC: | yup yup – my wife's not a linux person. Hence I'm thinking of the P3 as a backend and she can use winmyth as a frontend over the network |
| [01:30:00] | soi-disant: | is she going to use the frontend for anything else? |
| [01:30:00] | soi-disant: | or is it dedicated to tv watching |
| [01:30:00] | kgbudz: | mythweb is a better windows frontend than winmyth |
| [01:30:00] | kgbudz: | thats for sure |
| [01:30:00] | kgbudz: | just install the nuv wmp plugin |
| [01:32:00] | eiggirC: | okay thanks for that tip |
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| [01:32:00] | eiggirC: | soi-disant: the front end windows box is her computer for everything. |
| [01:32:00] | ascii`: | is it normal that video and sound don't fit? |
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| [01:33:00] | ascii`: | the sound is synced in xawtv, but not in MythTV |
| [01:33:00] | kgbudz: | thats not normal |
| [01:33:00] | kgbudz: | what are your system specs |
| [01:34:00] | Dibblah: | ascii`: If you pause, does sound continue on? |
| [01:35:00] | Dibblah: | ascii`: If so, you've not got alsamixer set correctly ;) |
| [01:35:00] | NPR_Mike: | Question what distribution should I be looking at for an easy installation and stability for mythtv? |
| [01:35:00] | ascii`: | i don't use alsa.. |
| [01:35:00] | Dibblah: | ascii`: Okay, mixer, then. |
| [01:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | ascii`: You need to configure your audio inputs if you are using a NPR: Whatever distro you are most familiar with |
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| [01:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | oops |
| [01:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | somehow I combined 2 replies into 1 |
| [01:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | haha |
| [01:36:00] | ascii`: | i have to enable sound like this : v4lctl setattr mute off |
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| [01:36:00] | ascii`: | to enable sound.. |
| [01:36:00] | Dibblah: | Ahhh... I now see how people manage to type the complete correct names... kompete to the rescue :) |
| [01:36:00] | eiggirC: | NPR_Mike: depends what else you have – I'm going for debian cos I already have debian boxes and a debian apt-proxy running. |
| [01:36:00] | ascii`: | and then it is sound all the time.. |
| [01:36:00] | eiggirC: | NPR_Mike: but whatever you're comfortable with. |
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| [01:37:00] | Dibblah: | nuonguy: Fedora Core 4. |
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| [01:37:00] | Dibblah: | NP:, even... |
| [01:37:00] | Dibblah: | NPR_Mike: even... |
| [01:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | ascii`: Read through here. It specifically covers that sort of thing. http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-7.html |
| [01:37:00] | Dibblah: | Hmmm... 3 letters or more :) |
| [01:38:00] | NPR_Mike: | it will be a new installation I want a new TV box |
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| [01:42:00] | NPR_Mike: | A precompiled package of mythtv ? |
| [01:42:00] | cosmo_: | evidently pvr 250 supports mpg1/mpg2 hardware encoding, and pvr 150 only supports mp2. Is it possible to hardware encode mpg1 with myth? If not, will the transcoder use the mpg1 encoder on the card? Or is the mpg1 encoder feature not useful in linux? |
| [01:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | cosmo_: the 150's use the identical chips for compressing the data so I would think they could output mpeg1 as well |
| [01:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | Why are you looking for mpeg1 anyway? making vcd |
| [01:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | 's or something ? |
| [01:45:00] | cosmo_: | I just prefer mpg1, since the files are small |
| [01:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well your bitrate will determine the size, regardless. |
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| [01:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | Can't say I've ever tried to configure myth to use mpeg1 with my 250's though |
| [01:46:00] | cosmo_: | point taken, maybe I should save money and go for the 150, and use a low bitrate |
| [01:47:00] | mouser25: | with your 250 do you have high pitch sound on channels 2 – 15 ? |
| [01:47:00] | cosmo_: | well, I cant find anything in the docs that suggests theres even an option for mpg1 |
| [01:47:00] | Dibblah: | NPR_Mike: You may find KnoppMyth is what you want. Google. |
| [01:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | mouser25: Not that I've noticed. Though I never watch channel 2 here |
| [01:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | but 15 seems fine |
| [01:47:00] | mouser25: | I get a high pitch sound on my pvr150 ch 2–15 |
| [01:48:00] | Dibblah: | cosmo_: mpg2 is always better than 1 for a given bitrate. Don't worry about 1. |
| [01:48:00] | mouser25: | I found a post about someone else with the same problem but no solutions |
| [01:48:00] | Dibblah: | mouser25: Current IVTV version? |
| [01:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | cosmo_: You can tell myth to use mpeg1 in the recording profile |
| [01:49:00] | mouser25: | Dibblah not the most current I couldent get audio to work with it |
| [01:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Set the streamtype to Mpeg1-VCD |
| [01:49:00] | Dibblah: | Most current being? |
| [01:49:00] | PatrickDK: | 0.3.8 |
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| [01:49:00] | mouser25: | I have 0.3.3u |
| [01:49:00] | ascii`: | what do i need to do, i use CD instead of Line ? |
| [01:49:00] | Dibblah: | mouser25: Letter? |
| [01:50:00] | mouser25: | it is part of the version |
| [01:50:00] | Dibblah: | Doh. Okay. Update :) |
| [01:50:00] | Dibblah: | That's nowhere near current :) |
| [01:50:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, alot of people use 0.2.0 |
| [01:50:00] | Dibblah: | And remove _any_ manual configuration options in your modules.conf or anything that generates module.conf. |
| [01:50:00] | PatrickDK: | I had trouble with 0.3.7 |
| [01:51:00] | Dibblah: | It's getting better, now. |
| [01:51:00] | PatrickDK: | but 0.3.8 works nice for me |
| [01:51:00] | soi-disant: | I get some odd conflinct between a pvr350 and pvr500, if I use 0.3.8, uber-borks system |
| [01:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | version = 0x00000200 (0.2.0) |
| [01:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | HEh |
| [01:52:00] | soi-disant: | have to shutdown power supply before it will even reboot |
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| [01:52:00] | Dibblah: | Hey, it works fine for 3/250s. Why not? |
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| [01:52:00] | mouser25: | ok well how do I uninstall 0.3.3u ? do I do a make deinstall ? |
| [01:53:00] | simcop2387: | *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x08aee1c0 *** i keep getting these when i finish watching a recording... |
| [01:53:00] | simcop2387: | and it segfaults/aborts then |
| [01:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | simcop2387: I was seeing something similar, but it appears to have been fixed in svn as it hasn't happened in a couple weeks now |
| [01:55:00] | Dibblah: | mouser25: Shouldn't need to. Just make / make install on the current drivers. |
| [01:56:00] | ascii`: | why can't mythtv catch the sound when it is coming from CD input? |
| [01:56:00] | mouser25: | Dibblah do you find that your tuner is slow at changeing channels? |
| [01:57:00] | Dibblah: | No. But I don't use live TV :) |
| [01:57:00] | mouser25: | ok |
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| [01:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | mouser25: There is an inherent delay when changing channels of a second or 2 |
| [01:58:00] | mouser25: | GreyFoxx: ok as long as im not the only one |
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| [01:58:00] | Dibblah: | ... Which you can overcome by using (and liking, damnit!) browse mode by default. |
| [01:58:00] | cosmo_: | is that for all cards and configurations? |
| [01:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's spooling the data to the drive/ringbuffer, and then reading it from there fo rplayback |
| [01:58:00] | mouser25: | I might just start useing it for the backend |
| [01:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | cosmo_: Yes |
| [01:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | LiveTV is not really LIVE. It's encoded(if needed) and written to the ringbuffer. It is then read from the ringbuffer and decoded/played by the frontend |
| [02:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's what allows you to pause/rewind live TV |
| [02:00:00] | cosmo_: | ah, which is why streaming it over the network is even possible, seems obvious to me now ;p |
| [02:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [02:01:00] | Dibblah: | Here's my official plug for the "Browse mode by default" bug currently in trac :) |
| [02:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | I just use the EPG for looking over channels for the very rare time I'm in "live tv" |
| [02:02:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, livetv is at best .2sec behind about |
| [02:04:00] | mouser25: | what software is needed to stream your recorded video? |
| [02:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | stream it to where ? |
| [02:04:00] | mouser25: | to my laptop |
| [02:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | well, you have several options. mythstreamtv/vlc, a plain old file share , or winmyth |
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| [02:05:00] | mouser25: | thanks |
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| [02:07:00] | ascii`: | i followed the instruction on mythtv.org, setting up alsa..but then i get no sound..i've used CD Input as capture device..and master is set to a fai amount of sound..what have i done wrong? |
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| [02:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | ascii`: It's been so long since I last used one of those cards I can't remember any issues I had with setting it up. You might want to try searching or posting to the -users mailing list |
| [02:10:00] | ascii`: | from where i stand..i think mythtv is looking for input on "Line", but my input is on "CD", how can i make mythtv look for input on CD instead of Line? |
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| [02:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | *shrug* |
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| [02:12:00] | eiggirC: | christ – theres a hauppage 150 card thats 30% cheaper than the other 150 based cards... and its ALSO a low profile format |
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| [02:13:00] | johnny531: | hey all. anybody recall seeing discussiion about interactions between hd-3000's and pvr-x50's? i'm getting lots of uncorrectable errors in my dvb streams and am fairly certain it's from odd jujo between the cards. dev list searches only touch on it in passing |
| [02:15:00] | ascii`: | GreyFoxx, i managed..:p |
| [02:15:00] | ascii`: | but theres kind og fuzz in the background.. |
| [02:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | Got it working now ? |
| [02:16:00] | ascii`: | kind of.. |
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| [02:18:00] | ascii`: | when i change channel sometimes, i get only fuzz.. |
| [02:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | hrm, to go to a movie tonight or not |
| [02:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | It starts in 15 minutes |
| [02:21:00] | eiggirC: | GreyFoxx: don't bother – 95% of movies are crap |
| [02:22:00] | eiggirC: | get a good book or a bad woman.... at least 50% of them are not crap :) |
| [02:22:00] | EvilBob: | lol |
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| [02:35:00] | cosmo_: | man, why did I have to get a computer without ISA, now I cant get a cadet radio tuner card |
| [02:45:00] | eiggirC: | cosmo_: cos ISA is old ? |
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| [03:04:00] | simcop2387: | NightBird: so ivtv is working fine but mythtv is having problems changing channels? |
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| [03:22:00] | Twiggy: | anybody here well versed with homebrew receivers? |
| [03:24:00] | cosmo_: | no, but curious... |
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| [03:42:00] | simcop2387: | what does everyone think of this idea, a nice little script/plugin that creates dvd's with dvd author from mpeg2 streams recorded with mythtv, it'll create a nice little dvd with menus and the ability to "skip" commercials |
| [03:45:00] | ascii`: | this idea then : get my fucking ir to work..cant compile studpid lirc modules..:( |
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| [03:46:00] | simcop2387: | ascii`: what happens when you try to compile them |
| [03:46:00] | ascii`: | get error..i use modules-assistant auto-install lirc-modules |
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| [03:47:00] | ascii`: | have to configure some conf file with irq and io ports.. |
| [03:47:00] | ascii`: | strange stuff.. |
| [03:56:00] | simcop2387: | what distro is that? |
| [03:57:00] | nuonguy: | Anyone here well acquainted with alsa and OSS? |
| [03:57:00] | simcop2387: | http://vdiddy.bounceme.net/~ryan/mythdvdr.png first mockup of the background for automatic dvd generator script (made it with inkscape) |
| [03:57:00] | simcop2387: | nuongu1: alsa is better in 99% of cases |
| [03:58:00] | nuonguy: | the question I have relates to my setup – it doesn't quite work |
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| [03:58:00] | nuonguy: | I had to enable OSS in my tuner driver (saa7134) to get any live tv audio to work |
| [03:58:00] | nuonguy: | But the audio stops working when I change channels... |
| [04:00:00] | simcop2387: | sounds like it keeps getting muted |
| [04:00:00] | nuonguy: | That's what I thought |
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| [04:00:00] | ascii`: | simcop2387, debian.. |
| [04:01:00] | simcop2387: | nuongu1: i saw a command in here, v4lctl mute off earlier |
| [04:01:00] | simcop2387: | set mythtv to use that command on channel change, its in mythsetup IIRC |
| [04:01:00] | nuonguy: | So, I have to invoke umix line2 record; umix video record to bring the live tv audio back after channel changes |
| [04:01:00] | ascii`: | nuongu1, v4lctl setattr automute off;v4lctl setattr mute off |
| [04:01:00] | nuonguy: | IOW, I have to set Line 2 to Record and then Video to Record on every channel change |
| [04:02:00] | nuonguy: | v4lctl – I don't think I have that installed.... where do I get that? |
| [04:02:00] | simcop2387: | ah thats it |
| [04:02:00] | simcop2387: | good ? i dont know where i got it |
| [04:02:00] | nuonguy: | simcop2387: What distro do you use? |
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| [04:02:00] | nuonguy: | I'm FC4 |
| [04:04:00] | simcop2387: | gentoo |
| [04:04:00] | simcop2387: | lets find out what package gave me this file, then i'll have an idea of what to tell you to go grab :) |
| [04:05:00] | nuonguy: | Yes, please |
| [04:05:00] | nuonguy: | Some googling: I think it's xawtv |
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| [04:09:00] | nuonguy: | If this web site is to be trusted, http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/freshrpms/redhat . . . ur.i386.html , it must be xawtv |
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| [04:13:00] | cae: | hi I have set up mythtv using KnoppMyth and have all going, the only problem is that my audio is ahead of my video. I'm using an SAA7134 chipset TV tuner card. Is ther a way around this or a way to delay audio? Audio is taken from tv card straight to line in. I figure some has probably had this problem before... |
| [04:14:00] | ascii`: | cae : see the mythtv howto on www.mythtv.org, there it is explained.. |
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| [04:20:00] | mouser25: | Iv updated to the latest version of ivtv and I dont get audio |
| [04:21:00] | mouser25: | I have a pvr150 does anyone have a sudgestion |
| [04:22:00] | opello: | does the 150 use the HcwMakoA.ROM for the audio? |
| [04:23:00] | mouser25: | no |
| [04:24:00] | mouser25: | opello where is a good install guide for ivtv I cant seem to find much for a noob like me |
| [04:25:00] | opello: | well, since i'm going to the wiki to look, you could too :) heh – http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/ |
| [04:26:00] | mouser25: | opello ok thanks |
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| [04:26:00] | opello: | this links to the "jarod's guide" which seems to be a good starting place: http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/index.php/FAQ#Di . . . _Information |
| [04:30:00] | mouser25: | opello thanks! |
| [04:30:00] | opello: | np :) |
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| [04:42:00] | jemarcks: | this may be off topic but i was curious what new features the next version of myth will have. What do we have to look fwd to? |
| [04:44:00] | cae: | ascii` : do you mean the mythtvology howto? |
| [04:44:00] | ascii`: | yes |
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| [04:50:00] | nuonguy: | simcop2387: invoking v4lctl, when do you do that? Before mythtv backend even starts? |
| [04:50:00] | simcop2387: | should be at any time |
| [04:51:00] | nuonguy: | k |
| [04:51:00] | simcop2387: | sorry had to step out a bit |
| [04:51:00] | nuonguy: | lemme try that... different machine, takes a minute or two... |
| [04:51:00] | ** NightBird looks for a transcoding method for mythtv files.. ** | |
| [04:52:00] | simcop2387: | NightBird: mtd, mythtranscoding daemon |
| [04:52:00] | simcop2387: | or do you want avi's |
| [04:52:00] | NightBird: | I was thinking avi's |
| [04:52:00] | simcop2387: | wait i dunno what i'm talking about |
| [04:54:00] | simcop2387: | http://pvrhw.goldfish.org/tiki-view_cache.php . . . ml%23ss21.19 |
| [04:57:00] | simcop2387: | NightBird: nuvexport seems your best bet |
| [04:57:00] | simcop2387: | https://svn.forevermore.net/nuvexport/ |
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| [05:00:00] | ** NightBird was looking at nuvtools ** | |
| [05:00:00] | cae: | ascii` : thanks! |
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| [05:01:00] | simcop2387: | NightBird: nuvexport is written by the same guy to make things easy to export to another format |
| [05:02:00] | Beirdo: | not quite |
| [05:02:00] | Beirdo: | but whatever |
| [05:02:00] | Beirdo: | nuvtools is mine... not finished. if it works, great, if it doesn't, so sorry |
| [05:02:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [05:02:00] | simcop2387: | ah then i misunderstood the page |
| [05:03:00] | Beirdo: | nuvexport is primarily xris' work |
| [05:03:00] | simcop2387: | and the two themes are too damn similar |
| [05:03:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
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| [05:04:00] | Beirdo: | but I've been rather busy and preoccupied for the last little while :) |
| [05:05:00] | simcop2387: | heh |
| [05:05:00] | simcop2387: | nuv2avi doesn't support the mpeg2 from encoder cards? |
| [05:05:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [05:05:00] | Beirdo: | and it never will |
| [05:05:00] | Beirdo: | there's no need |
| [05:05:00] | Beirdo: | the MPEG2 is already a standard format that most video editing software can handle |
| [05:06:00] | Beirdo: | if you want to transcode it to something else, nuvexport will do it nicely |
| [05:06:00] | cosmo_: | do the hauppauge pvr series of cards support btaudio? |
| [05:06:00] | Beirdo: | no, why would they? |
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| [05:07:00] | simcop2387: | interesting... the .nuv files that are in there are just plain mpegs, i figured they'd have a different header and the streams were encapsulated (though i know nothing of nupplevideo) |
| [05:08:00] | simcop2387: | cool that makes my dvd script even easier |
| [05:08:00] | cosmo_: | from the docs "The MPEG-2 cards supported by the IVTV driver do not require a sound card for audio capture." |
| [05:08:00] | cosmo_: | arent the pvr cards supported under ivtv? |
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| [05:08:00] | Beirdo: | yes, they are |
| [05:09:00] | simcop2387: | cosmo_: the pvr cards give audio through the v4l interface too |
| [05:09:00] | nuonguy: | simcop2387: My problems didn't change with the invocation of v4lctl |
| [05:09:00] | nuonguy: | (I had to build it from src, btw) |
| [05:09:00] | simcop2387: | nuongu1: hmm, dunno then |
| [05:10:00] | simcop2387: | i had so many audio problems with my non-encoder card that when i saw that the 150's were affordable (for me) i splurged |
| [05:10:00] | ** godsmoke has to climb onto the roof of his apartment building tomorrow and test the cable feed up there before it's distributed ** | |
| [05:11:00] | godsmoke: | gotta find out if it's the quality of this capture card, or the cheap cabling |
| [05:11:00] | simcop2387: | hehe |
| [05:12:00] | godsmoke: | if it's the same with the feed and a small portable lcd tv up there — then that means I either live with it ... or I splice the feed :) |
| [05:12:00] | godsmoke: | don't know if the cable company will appreciate that |
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| [05:12:00] | shfhgedshgdf: | will mythtv run on a pentium 1 200mhz? |
| [05:12:00] | godsmoke: | frontend and backend? |
| [05:12:00] | simcop2387: | shfhgedshgdf: that depends on what kind of tv card |
| [05:13:00] | cosmo_: | man, that would be interesting |
| [05:13:00] | godsmoke: | simcop2387: it matters just as much if it's the frontend |
| [05:13:00] | shfhgedshgdf: | i juss wanna stream music and vids from my master server |
| [05:13:00] | godsmoke: | shfhgedshgdf: you didn't answer either question |
| [05:13:00] | shfhgedshgdf: | frontend |
| [05:14:00] | geoff: | I aam on a celeron 450 with xvmc |
| [05:14:00] | geoff: | I wouldn't go much lower than that |
| [05:14:00] | godsmoke: | you really think your pentium 1 200 mhz computer can play a video feed? |
| [05:14:00] | shfhgedshgdf: | will it work on my pentium 1 i just want to stream video |
| [05:15:00] | godsmoke: | ANSWER the questions |
| [05:15:00] | godsmoke: | ok — so this is ONLY backend? |
| [05:15:00] | godsmoke: | and you're using a hardware encoding tuner card? |
| [05:15:00] | shfhgedshgdf: | nevermind |
| [05:15:00] | simcop2387: | i don't think he understands what mythtv is doing |
| [05:15:00] | godsmoke: | obviously he doesn't want help |
| [05:15:00] | godsmoke: | he'd rather troll |
| [05:15:00] | simcop2387: | shfhgedshgdf: i think you're better looking into videolan for what you want |
| [05:16:00] | shfhgedshgdf: | i just wanted to use mythvideo |
| [05:16:00] | geoff: | a p1 is too slow for mythvideo |
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| [05:17:00] | geoff: | unless you have a pvr 350 |
| [05:17:00] | geoff: | which does all the decoding |
| [05:17:00] | geoff: | but that tis still pushing it because the disk controller is likely too slow |
| [05:17:00] | simcop2387: | mythvideo just uses mplayer |
| [05:17:00] | simcop2387: | or some other player |
| [05:18:00] | shfhgedshgdf: | is there a video lan linux distro? |
| [05:18:00] | simcop2387: | not that i know of, but it does have windows versions, for linux AFAIK you'd have to install it all |
| [05:18:00] | godsmoke: | right ... windows will perform REALLY well on a p1 200 |
| [05:19:00] | diamon: | Heh, ow. The mere thought... |
| [05:19:00] | simcop2387: | though mythfrontend works better for browsing videos, and your p1 is way too slow to be doing any videos unless they are raw yuv |
| [05:19:00] | shfhgedshgdf: | i used to have windows 98 on it |
| [05:19:00] | godsmoke: | not when you were playing live video streams |
| [05:19:00] | diamon: | 98 wouldn't be too bad, but still less fun than I'd prefer. |
| [05:20:00] | diamon: | Yeah, and live video streams to a 98 system with those specs, well... |
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| [05:23:00] | geoff: | I have used the frontend on a 333 |
| [05:23:00] | geoff: | p2 though |
| [05:23:00] | geoff: | and it was pegged |
| [05:23:00] | diamon: | Ok, question... I've got a FC3 system with mythtv and a PVR-150 using the 0.2 ivtv driver. I want to keep using apt-get for upgrades and stay with rpm format. Anyone know how I can request that one package (ivtv-0.3.x) via apt without trying to get ALL the development packages? Bleeding edge for a card driver is one thing, but bleeding edge for the whole system would be an invitation to unneeded pain I thought... |
| [05:24:00] | diamon: | geoff: I can see a P2–333 doing frontend with a good video card and NIC. |
| [05:24:00] | diamon: | A p1–200 has a lower FSB and non-integrated L2 cache, which make s a notable difference. |
| [05:24:00] | geoff: | yeah, it did dvd's too ;) |
| [05:24:00] | geoff: | but osd would kill it |
| [05:24:00] | diamon: | Hey, whatever does the job. |
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| [05:26:00] | geoff: | diamon: I just compile the cvs .3 ivtv, it is easier than trying to find a package |
| [05:27:00] | diamon: | geoff: Yeah, I'm big on sources myself, but I'm trying hard to discipline myself to stay with RPM's on RH-class systems or whatever. :P I'm bad about revision messes and leftovers. |
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| [05:32:00] | simcop2387: | diamon: thats why i love gentoo, i tend to be able to mix sources and packages easier, though having to compile EVERYthing takes a while sometimes. (and as the grand Fry said, "My time is worthless!") |
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| [05:33:00] | eidolon: | 'lo folks. |
| [05:33:00] | diamon: | simcop: Don't get me wrong, I'll go in there with a chainsaw and do whatever's needful if I really had to, I'm just trying to stay with RPM's if I can. :) |
| [05:34:00] | simcop2387: | heh |
| [05:34:00] | simcop2387: | eidolon: 'lo |
| [05:35:00] | eiggirC: | okay a question about front and back ends. If I have a mythtv box running as a backend, can the front end machine still watch live TV? |
| [05:35:00] | eidolon: | hiya. so, i'm somewhat embarrassed. i seem to have, while cleaning out the house, mistakenly thrown out my hauppage card. |
| [05:35:00] | eiggirC: | eidolon: doh. |
| [05:35:00] | eidolon: | which is probably okay – it was almost 3 years old (it was a 250). so. what's the current "recommended" tuner card? |
| [05:36:00] | diamon: | I like my PVR-150, I'd suggest anything in that family line. 250, 350, 500, whatever. |
| [05:36:00] | ** eidolon nods. ** | |
| [05:36:00] | simcop2387: | eiggirC: i believe so, i think it requires an nfs setup or something like that |
| [05:37:00] | geoff: | eiggirC: should just work |
| [05:37:00] | simcop2387: | diamon: the 150's are ~$75 with shipping on ebay |
| [05:37:00] | godsmoke: | ebay? |
| [05:37:00] | godsmoke: | why not buy from a real seller? |
| [05:37:00] | simcop2387: | eiggirC: ok i'm wrong |
| [05:37:00] | godsmoke: | for like $60 |
| [05:38:00] | simcop2387: | godsmoke: in my area there aren't anyone selling it, the bestbuy's within 50 miles are only selling ATI tuners for some reason and i can't find any compusa's |
| [05:38:00] | eidolon: | i'm thinking newegg for my supplier. |
| [05:38:00] | godsmoke: | http://www.compuplus.com/insidepage.php3?refe . . . p;id=1003412 |
| [05:38:00] | godsmoke: | $59.95 |
| [05:38:00] | simcop2387: | compuplus? never heard of them |
| [05:38:00] | godsmoke: | and that was just from a quick froogle search |
| [05:38:00] | godsmoke: | who cares? |
| [05:38:00] | eidolon: | are the 150's worth it? i'd like to get something that's reasonably oomphy. |
| [05:38:00] | godsmoke: | it's a $60 order |
| [05:38:00] | diamon: | All I know is Amazon is my friend, between them and CompUSA I'm mostly covered for about anything in the world I need except groceries. :P |
| [05:38:00] | godsmoke: | it's not some $6,000 plasma |
| [05:38:00] | diamon: | eidolon: Err, oomphy'? |
| [05:39:00] | eidolon: | has the horsepower to do fast encoding. |
| [05:39:00] | simcop2387: | godsmoke: $75 with shipping, just like ebay |
| [05:39:00] | nuonguy: | simcop2387: I'm a little confused; mythfrontend's audio output devices is set to ALSA:default |
| [05:39:00] | godsmoke: | why would ebay be better? |
| [05:40:00] | diamon: | I must not be understanding right... 150's are as I understand, the new version of the 250. 350 has mpeg-decoding output as well. The 500 is paired 250's or 150's. |
| [05:40:00] | godsmoke: | paired 150s |
| [05:40:00] | eidolon: | interesting. |
| [05:40:00] | diamon: | So, they're all based on the same family line AFAIK. |
| [05:40:00] | simcop2387: | eidolon: i'm recording at near dvd quality easily |
| [05:40:00] | eidolon: | cool. |
| [05:40:00] | godsmoke: | yes, all based on the same chip line |
| [05:40:00] | godsmoke: | not the same chips though |
| [05:40:00] | eidolon: | okay, back up – i'm VERY VERY VERY VERY new to mythtv. |
| [05:40:00] | simcop2387: | diamon: they changed the chips on the 150's and 500's |
| [05:40:00] | eidolon: | why would i want mpeg outgoing encoding? |
| [05:40:00] | diamon: | godsmoke: No, even the same product lines aren't guaranteed to be the 'same' chip anymore... |
| [05:40:00] | godsmoke: | diamon: I didn't say they were |
| [05:41:00] | diamon: | godsmoke: Just commenting. |
| [05:41:00] | godsmoke: | ok |
| [05:41:00] | godsmoke: | that's not uncommon |
| [05:41:00] | nuonguy: | but the mythsetup is set to /dev/dsp1 which is an OSS interface, right? |
| [05:41:00] | godsmoke: | chips stop getting made, the manuf adapts |
| [05:41:00] | godsmoke: | or they make a cheaper one |
| [05:41:00] | diamon: | Exactly. |
| [05:41:00] | simcop2387: | nuongu1: mythfrontend is the playback, mythsetup is the output |
| [05:41:00] | simcop2387: | er input |
| [05:41:00] | godsmoke: | diamon: what sucks is when one model number comes in two completely different chipsets |
| [05:41:00] | godsmoke: | one linux supported, the other not :) |
| [05:42:00] | godsmoke: | happens all the time with wifi cards |
| [05:42:00] | nuonguy: | mythbackend and mythfrontend communicate solely via IP, right? |
| [05:42:00] | eidolon: | oh.. dual tuners would let me watch one thinga nd record another, yes? |
| [05:42:00] | godsmoke: | eidolon: or watch two things |
| [05:42:00] | godsmoke: | or record two things |
| [05:42:00] | simcop2387: | eidolon: yep, you can do that with a 500 or two 150's |
| [05:42:00] | godsmoke: | any way you want to break it up |
| [05:42:00] | eidolon: | i'm thinking of parking this box in the basement connected up to our cable, and feeding video up over our house network to my workstation. |
| [05:42:00] | eidolon: | that compuplus site has a 500 for $129. |
| [05:42:00] | diamon: | eidolon: Anyway, the 250 apparently is the best-supported AFAIK, the 150's are less expensive and are supposed to have a better encode quality overall. Yes, dual tuners lets you watch and record different things, or of course record two things at once. :) |
| [05:42:00] | eidolon: | that's a good price. |
| [05:42:00] | godsmoke: | the 150 driver support is still CVS afaik |
| [05:42:00] | nuonguy: | diamon: would you take a 250 over a 350? |
| [05:43:00] | godsmoke: | as is the 500 |
| [05:43:00] | eidolon: | but if i'm streaming video from a recorded show to a remote workstation, i don't need the tuner card, yes? |
| [05:43:00] | godsmoke: | since they're the same chip |
| [05:43:00] | eidolon: | since the stream is already encoded and stored. |
| [05:43:00] | godsmoke: | correct |
| [05:43:00] | eidolon: | okay, good. |
| [05:43:00] | simcop2387: | i really need to finish my lircrc file but i don't want to.... |
| [05:43:00] | nuonguy: | newegg sells the pvr350 for ~ $190 |
| [05:43:00] | godsmoke: | heh |
| [05:44:00] | godsmoke: | waste of money |
| [05:44:00] | eidolon: | this is the 500, right: http://www.compuplus.com/i/VIDEO/Video-Captur . . . ;comboid=527 |
| [05:44:00] | nuonguy: | simcop2387: Have you heard of the belking mediapilot? Alternative to a remote control |
| [05:44:00] | godsmoke: | yes |
| [05:44:00] | nuonguy: | godsmoke: What's a waste of money? |
| [05:44:00] | godsmoke: | eidolon: keep in the mind ... the 500 driver support in linux is still unstable |
| [05:44:00] | simcop2387: | nuongu1: no i haven't |
| [05:44:00] | eidolon: | i'm going to be running knoppmyth, so support is critical.. i assume that'll Just WOrk :) |
| [05:44:00] | nuonguy: | the 350? |
| [05:44:00] | eidolon: | oops |
| [05:44:00] | eidolon: | but dual 150's are stable? |
| [05:44:00] | eidolon: | and i can add another 150 later i assume. |
| [05:44:00] | godsmoke: | no no |
| [05:44:00] | godsmoke: | listen |
| [05:44:00] | ** eidolon listens. ** | |
| [05:45:00] | godsmoke: | the 150s and the 500s are the same card |
| [05:45:00] | godsmoke: | the 500 just has double the tuners/encoders on it |
| [05:45:00] | diamon: | The 350 decodes MPEG input, so for low-cpu-capability systems you might want the 350, but I'd go with (as I did) a 150 and a GF4 FX5200 or better for output. |
| [05:45:00] | godsmoke: | the 150/500 driver support is still beta really |
| [05:45:00] | godsmoke: | it's not production by any means |
| [05:45:00] | eidolon: | diamon: i'll only part time be viewing the video on the machine that's doing the encoding. |
| [05:45:00] | diamon: | More flexibility on the output formats and methods. I like to get odd with things. |
| [05:45:00] | eidolon: | godsmoke: hrm. |
| [05:46:00] | godsmoke: | eidolon: the 250s are very well supported — however they're older and more expensive |
| [05:46:00] | diamon: | eidolon: In a week or two you'll find yourself addicted to simply watching recordings... Happened to me, and another of my friends... :P |
| [05:46:00] | eidolon: | so for someone who -really- doesn't want to be recompiling kernel modules all the time, what would you recommend for a hardware platform? pick up another 250? or 2? |
| [05:46:00] | godsmoke: | I'd get the 150/500 |
| [05:46:00] | godsmoke: | and use the slightly unstable drivers |
| [05:46:00] | godsmoke: | and wait for them to improve |
| [05:46:00] | eidolon: | diamon: could be, but i'm not next to wher the machine will be. |
| [05:46:00] | diamon: | god: Agreed. |
| [05:46:00] | eidolon: | so i'll be watching recordings, but not on the physical box. |
| [05:46:00] | godsmoke: | but, keep in mind ... |
| [05:46:00] | godsmoke: | the drivers may flake out on you |
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| [05:46:00] | godsmoke: | they're very new |
| [05:46:00] | godsmoke: | then again ... mythtv will too :) |
| [05:46:00] | diamon: | gods: Beats my old-ass drivers which are perma-flaked out on me. :) |
| [05:47:00] | godsmoke: | since it's far from stable |
| [05:47:00] | eidolon: | godsmoke: *nod* are they rolling into knoppmyth quickly? or... gosh, i could probably just upgrade the knoppmyth drivers after the installation completes. i'm okay with debian maintenance. |
| [05:47:00] | godsmoke: | oh ... |
| [05:47:00] | godsmoke: | I doubt it |
| [05:47:00] | eidolon: | yah. |
| [05:47:00] | godsmoke: | I don't touch that live cd crap |
| [05:47:00] | godsmoke: | use a real installation |
| [05:47:00] | godsmoke: | more control |
| [05:47:00] | eidolon: | yeah, and a helluva lot more work :) |
| [05:47:00] | godsmoke: | no ... |
| [05:47:00] | godsmoke: | not at all |
| [05:47:00] | eidolon: | otherwise ya'll be holding my hand a lot :) |
| [05:47:00] | godsmoke: | I get base systems up in less than 6 minutes |
| [05:47:00] | godsmoke: | I do it every day |
| [05:48:00] | eidolon: | i may hold you to that :) |
| [05:48:00] | eidolon: | i'll have the harwdare platform up and running hopefully in the next week or two. |
| [05:48:00] | godsmoke: | and if you've got a local debian mirror you can get full installs done in 15 :) |
| [05:48:00] | eidolon: | i use an RCN mirror that is net-topology VERY close. |
| [05:48:00] | eidolon: | 600k/sec downloads. |
| [05:48:00] | godsmoke: | nothing like Gbps backbone :) |
| [05:48:00] | godsmoke: | the beauty of local deb respositories |
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| [05:49:00] | eidolon: | well, i'm also stuck on comcast cable modems, so if Joey and Bobby next door are having a fragfest in Quake, i'll take a hit on my downloads. |
| [05:49:00] | godsmoke: | heh |
| [05:49:00] | godsmoke: | there are very few areas where the cable networks are stressed like they were 8 years ago |
| [05:50:00] | eidolon: | anyway, okay, i'll check into the 500. soon as i have my pc kicking around here with the card, I'll get back here and poke ya :) |
| [05:50:00] | godsmoke: | I have a 10Mbps cable line here for usenet downloading — it's stable |
| [05:50:00] | eidolon: | yah, i remember. |
| [05:50:00] | eidolon: | first generation cable modems were horrible. |
| [05:50:00] | nuonguy: | I'm still having live tv audio issues; anyone have an approach I could take to solving my audio issues? |
| [05:50:00] | eidolon: | huge collision domains. |
| [05:50:00] | godsmoke: | who wants to clean my apartment? |
| [05:50:00] | godsmoke: | I'll give you $3 |
| [05:50:00] | eidolon: | nuts to that. i got my own digs to keep clean |
| [05:51:00] | eidolon: | i can run 2 150's with no problem, right? so to cut my buy-in budget here, i may just get a single 150, and add another later if i really need it. |
| [05:52:00] | godsmoke: | right |
| [05:52:00] | eidolon: | we're also planning on using the mp3 handler stuff a lot (one of the adv's of knoppmyth. has mp3, mame, and other emulators already buitl) |
| [05:52:00] | eidolon: | cool on the 150. *digs about* |
| [05:53:00] | godsmoke: | "built" |
| [05:53:00] | godsmoke: | heh |
| [05:53:00] | eidolon: | yeah, that. |
| [05:53:00] | godsmoke: | dude |
| [05:53:00] | eidolon: | cmon, it's almost midnight. i'm wiped. |
| [05:53:00] | godsmoke: | you can just apt-get it |
| [05:53:00] | eidolon: | i know, but if i apt get it and configure it myself, it won't be as interesting a buzz story for my blog, man! |
| [05:54:00] | eidolon: | "Hey, I built a functional mythtv from a cd dsitribution if 14.8 seconds!" |
| [05:54:00] | godsmoke: | huh |
| [05:54:00] | eidolon: | in. |
| [05:54:00] | godsmoke: | that's not impressive ... |
| [05:54:00] | godsmoke: | that's just lame |
| [05:54:00] | godsmoke: | use a real installation :) |
| [05:54:00] | eidolon: | i'm a blogger, i'm the KING of lame! |
| [05:54:00] | ** eidolon strikes a pose. ** | |
| [05:54:00] | cosmo_: | anyone have any estimation on how long it would take for the 500 support to be production ready? Im new with this stuff, so how fast is myth and ivytv development? |
| [05:55:00] | godsmoke: | heh |
| [05:55:00] | godsmoke: | whenever the driver devs feel like it? |
| [05:55:00] | godsmoke: | a year? |
| [05:55:00] | godsmoke: | 5 years? |
| [05:55:00] | godsmoke: | whatever |
| [05:55:00] | eidolon: | note – beer and pizza helps. |
| [05:55:00] | godsmoke: | you just use it — if it dies, your problem |
| [05:55:00] | eidolon: | or sex. *nod* |
| [05:55:00] | diamon: | cosmo: 'Production', in the AIX sense where it won't die, or in the WIndows sense of 'it usually won't BSoD in less than a day'? |
| [05:56:00] | diamon: | eidolon: They need a site for that... Beerandpizza.org, buy a devel a snack today! |
| [05:56:00] | eidolon: | didn't cosmo.com try that? |
| [05:56:00] | diamon: | Dunno. |
| [05:56:00] | eidolon: | one of the big dotcom bombs. |
| [05:56:00] | diamon: | Though now that I'm thinking about it, I wouldn't mind giving that a try... |
| [05:56:00] | cosmo_: | id say an uptime of a day or too, doesn't have to be rock hard, for personal use, not a tv studio......does anyone use the 500? |
| [05:57:00] | diamon: | eidolon: Yeah, but I wouldn't have a CEO or CFO, makes life cheaper that way. |
| [05:57:00] | eidolon: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kozmo.com |
| [05:57:00] | diamon: | cosmo: The 500 is paired 150's, so yes-ish, I use half-of-a-500. :) |
| [05:57:00] | godsmoke: | eidolon: what about it? |
| [05:57:00] | cosmo_: | well, if thats true then the 500 support should be twice as good as the 150 support ;) |
| [05:57:00] | eidolon: | godsmoke: the thread about beerandpizza.org :) |
| [05:58:00] | godsmoke: | I remember ordering things from Kozmo |
| [05:58:00] | godsmoke: | they were crazy fast in nyc |
| [05:59:00] | diamon: | eidolon: Oh hell no, I'd be asking a percent, my mom always taught me to be reasonably bright. :) If I'm not paid, I don't work. Though 'pay' is a wildly variable word with me. |
| [05:59:00] | ** eidolon nods. ** | |
| [05:59:00] | ** eidolon is now playing with the wayback macine looking at kozmo.com in 1999 adn the like ** | |
| [05:59:00] | eidolon: | actgually now i'm looking at some of my sites from back then :) |
| [05:59:00] | diamon: | Heh. |
| [05:59:00] | cosmo_: | anybody in here actually using the 500? That can comment on stability? Id hate to belabor the point but 129 bucks is a good deal as far as Im concerned for 2 tuners |
| [06:00:00] | godsmoke: | yes, the drivers are not very stable |
| [06:00:00] | godsmoke: | I've fooled around with them |
| [06:00:00] | godsmoke: | but they work |
| [06:00:00] | geoff: | I use 500 |
| [06:00:00] | geoff: | all the time |
| [06:01:00] | geoff: | no stability problems whatsoever |
| [06:01:00] | eidolon: | geoff: any issues/ |
| [06:01:00] | nuonguy: | geoff: what distro? |
| [06:01:00] | eidolon: | cool. |
| [06:01:00] | geoff: | debian sid |
| [06:01:00] | godsmoke: | the distro is irrelivant |
| [06:01:00] | geoff: | 2.6.13 |
| [06:01:00] | eidolon: | sid? yikes. |
| [06:01:00] | godsmoke: | heh |
| [06:01:00] | geoff: | unstable |
| [06:01:00] | godsmoke: | silly boy |
| [06:01:00] | eidolon: | oh oh, the permanent sid. gotcha. |
| [06:01:00] | godsmoke: | you're not running experimental? |
| [06:01:00] | godsmoke: | simcop2387: no, sid is always unstable |
| [06:01:00] | diamon: | I use a 150. If only I could fix my audio-whine annoyance I'd be able to die a happy man. Barring sound oddness (which I may have caused myself, farking with the firmware files) I'd be set. |
| [06:01:00] | geoff: | i had some issues several months ago with no audio |
| [06:01:00] | godsmoke: | err |
| [06:02:00] | godsmoke: | eidolon: * |
| [06:02:00] | geoff: | but that was when 500 support was 2 weeks old |
| [06:02:00] | nuonguy: | diamon: count yourself lucky, my audio is totally jacked |
| [06:02:00] | cosmo_: | how unstable are you talking? Crashes once a week, occassionaly produces crappy recordings? Wont run for an hour unattended? |
| [06:02:00] | geoff: | no problems ever since |
| [06:02:00] | geoff: | mine runs 24/7 with no crashes |
| [06:02:00] | cosmo_: | how new is the card? |
| [06:02:00] | cosmo_: | hmm, thats promising |
| [06:02:00] | geoff: | recording at least 12–15 hrs /day |
| [06:03:00] | geoff: | feb |
| [06:03:00] | geoff: | maybe |
| [06:03:00] | eidolon: | dayam. when do you ever do any work? |
| [06:03:00] | nuonguy: | Noone uses the AverTV GO FM 007 |
| [06:03:00] | geoff: | my fiance is the tv watcher |
| [06:03:00] | geoff: | I just build it |
| [06:03:00] | cosmo_: | When that link was posted in this chat, I was on the verge of buying a 129 dollar 250 on ebay, so two tuners for the same price seems like a deal to me |
| [06:03:00] | eidolon: | heh |
| [06:03:00] | diamon: | My audio's fine except sometimes when it goes to a new channel it gets this hideous whine. 90+ percent of my recordings are fine, and aside from audio, runs beautifully. No crashes, no oddness, it just keeps recording. |
| [06:04:00] | nuonguy: | I'm jealous |
| [06:04:00] | diamon: | And again, I've messed about with my config, driver, and firmware. If I hadn't done that, I may well have been fine. :P |
| [06:04:00] | cosmo_: | ive read about whines |
| [06:04:00] | eidolon: | what dya'll use for remote viewing? linux mostly, but a windows clientw oudl be good too. |
| [06:04:00] | nuonguy: | I'm at a loss now how to tackle my sound problems |
| [06:04:00] | diamon: | My audio's a bit too toward the treble for my taste, but it's fine if I just mess with my audio card output settings a touch. |
| [06:05:00] | diamon: | nuonguy: I was about to try the 0.3.x driver and a new version of the firmware from the atrpms-testing branch. I'll try to let folks know how that turns out. |
| [06:05:00] | geoff: | the issues I have heard about with the 500 and 150 are it not playing well with 250s and 350s |
| [06:06:00] | diamon: | I could go pure source to do it, but I'm trying VERY hard to discipline myself to stay pure-RPM on my FC systems... :P |
| [06:06:00] | geoff: | but even still I used to usem mine with a 250 too |
| [06:06:00] | nuonguy: | diamon: Why? |
| [06:06:00] | geoff: | aand no porbs |
| [06:06:00] | diamon: | geoff: I can believe that, that'd be like an AHA-2940 and 2940UW and 2940U in the same system gets pissed off too. Similar but different-generations hardware cen get freaky. I always suggest folks stay in a family line. |
| [06:07:00] | eidolon: | okay folks, thanks for the tons of input. gonna pick up a card and get my pc ready. |
| [06:07:00] | diamon: | nuonguy: Dunno, just to see what it does. |
| [06:07:00] | geoff: | have fun |
| [06:07:00] | diamon: | eidolon: Good luck, and remember; the Great Lord Google knows all! |
| [06:08:00] | eidolon: | lord don't i know it. i'm a java develoepr most of the time. without google i'd be totally lost. |
| [06:08:00] | eidolon: | not like i'm not now. |
| [06:08:00] | diamon: | eidolon: But at least you're lost with great info, eh? :P |
| [06:08:00] | eidolon: | or someting :) |
| [06:08:00] | cosmo_: | hey, that pvr 500 has two coax jacks on it, is it one jack per tuner or is it one jack for tv tuners and one for the radio tuner? |
| [06:09:00] | PatrickDK: | heh |
| [06:09:00] | diamon: | cosmo: One jack per as I recall, but I can't swear to it. The hauppage site should say in the 'connectors' section though. |
| [06:10:00] | simcop2387: | holy commercial detection worked well during adult swim, i saw nothing commercial wise |
| [06:10:00] | geoff: | no, it has an internal splitter |
| [06:10:00] | geoff: | one jack for tv |
| [06:10:00] | diamon: | You know, I need to figure out how to do a ramdisk in XP so I can mess around with my GigE and see how fast it really goes without the disk limiting it. :) |
| [06:10:00] | geoff: | one for radio |
| [06:11:00] | PatrickDK: | diamon, what gige card? |
| [06:11:00] | diamon: | simcop: Yeah, I LOVE it for my Animal Planet shows, I never see a commercial... |
| [06:11:00] | PatrickDK: | and is it 64bit or 32bit? |
| [06:11:00] | diamon: | Patrick: Broadcom, I think? |
| [06:11:00] | diamon: | Not sure, it's built-in to my i865PE motherboard. |
| [06:11:00] | PatrickDK: | that can do atleast 900mbit |
| [06:11:00] | diamon: | 64 I *think*. |
| [06:11:00] | PatrickDK: | do you have any 64bit slots? |
| [06:11:00] | PatrickDK: | or pci-e slots? |
| [06:11:00] | cosmo_: | arent pci slots all 32? |
| [06:12:00] | PatrickDK: | oh never mind, 865 is only 32 |
| [06:12:00] | PatrickDK: | cosmo, hell no |
| [06:12:00] | PatrickDK: | that would totally suck |
| [06:12:00] | PatrickDK: | pci can't handle gigabit in 32bit mode |
| [06:12:00] | diamon: | Nope, it's a builtin using that HyperTransport bus or whatever... HT might be the AMD equivalent, been doing a lot of tech comparisons recently and my brain is getting all melty... |
| [06:12:00] | PatrickDK: | diamon, well, ya will have to see than |
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| [06:13:00] | PatrickDK: | on my 32bit slot, I get about 35mbyte/s from harddrive to harddrive |
| [06:13:00] | Octane_: | why has .18.2 not been released yet or .19? |
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| [06:13:00] | diamon: | It is assuredly *NOT* part of my PCI bus, and doesn't take bandwidth from it. I just don't know how fast it'll go yet. :P I've maxed out at the slowest of the two system's HDD's, at 45Mbit I think. |
| [06:14:00] | diamon: | Bit? Byte? Arrgh, brain meldown alert... Whatever. A full 750Mb CD copies to my file server in 45 seconds. |
| [06:14:00] | diamon: | Beats 100base and doesn't bog near as bad. |
| [06:14:00] | PatrickDK: | I get nice 950mbit on my 64bit pci servers |
| [06:15:00] | diamon: | 'course, my custom-bastard-cables needed rewiring for gigE, I only ever attached the 4 needed wires, which makes GigE a bit mad. :P |
| [06:15:00] | PatrickDK: | but then, those are loaded with massive raid arrays of 15k scsi drives |
| [06:15:00] | cosmo_: | ebay has the 500's for 129 bucks, so weird that the 500 and 250 would sell at the same price, whatever happened to price gradients? |
| [06:15:00] | diamon: | Mmmm, 15k arrays.... |
| [06:15:00] | PatrickDK: | noting like 260mbytes/s |
| [06:15:00] | diamon: | cosmo: The 500 uses a new 1-chip decoder solution, the 250 has a 2-chip. Silicon production does cost a bit. |
| [06:16:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, none of those have decoders |
| [06:16:00] | diamon: | Patrick: I was hoping to buy an 'outdated' 10k LVD Scsi Ultra FC-attached array from my work. :) |
| [06:16:00] | cosmo_: | hmm, and I thought 90 percent of the price was determied by mere demand and featuresets |
| [06:16:00] | diamon: | Encoder I meant. Arrgh, I think I'm done talking... |
| [06:16:00] | diamon: | Demand helps as well... |
| [06:18:00] | cosmo_: | I dont know if Id want to have an all-in-one decoder and encoder. Im in a bind with my windows system, have an all-in-wonder, tv is still great, but gfx accelerator is out of date. Since Ive only got 1 agp slot....not much I can do |
| [06:19:00] | diamon: | Arrgh, I've got both a testing and stable repo listed in my apt-get's sources.list, and I cannot figure out how to get the ivtv driver from testing... I thought it'd be "apt-get install -t testing ivtv" but that laughs at me... WTF am I doing wrong? |
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| [06:20:00] | diamon: | cosmo: I prefer to separate functions from each other, but sometimes folks can't or won't... GOtta look at the options and decide what you'd like to do... |
| [06:20:00] | redf0x: | diamon, asking on the mythtv-users board is your problem |
| [06:20:00] | redf0x: | ;-) |
| [06:20:00] | diamon: | redf0x: Yeah, well one can hope.... I'm more here to provide moral support for others. :P |
| [06:21:00] | redf0x: | lol, sorry I'd help but I don't know anything about debian/apt-get |
| [06:22:00] | diamon: | Not a problem, it finally worked, but damn if I know why... Now to see if it reboots or if I broke the hell outta something. |
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| [06:23:00] | geoff: | you can download the .deb and instal using dpkg -i |
| [06:23:00] | geoff: | from degian.org |
| [06:23:00] | diamon: | It's not debian, it's FC3 using apt-get for that one fellow's install guide... |
| [06:23:00] | diamon: | For the atrpms repository. |
| [06:23:00] | geoff: | hmmm |
| [06:23:00] | geoff: | sucky |
| [06:24:00] | diamon: | Woo, it gave me new firmware too. Maybe I won't fark with it this time. :P |
| [06:24:00] | cosmo_: | do you not get dpkg when you install apt on FC? |
| [06:24:00] | diamon: | I have no idea, I just used apt where they said to get apt... |
| [06:24:00] | diamon: | Nope, nothing called dpkg on my system. |
| [06:25:00] | geoff: | i was pretty sure apt required dpkg |
| [06:26:00] | geoff: | ie dpkg does the work and apt is the wrapper |
| [06:27:00] | nuonguy: | simcop2387: I owe you a beer or two; if you're in norcal, when would you like to collect? |
| [06:27:00] | simcop2387: | nuongu1: why's that? i'm all the way over in the states and in college, my dad was in norway for a business trip a few weeks ago |
| [06:28:00] | nuonguy: | My livetv audio now works, cuz I learned how to type 'mute' and 'automute' |
| [06:28:00] | nuonguy: | duuuuhhhhh |
| [06:28:00] | simcop2387: | lol |
| [06:28:00] | nuonguy: | :-! |
| [06:29:00] | nuonguy: | The audio sounds like $h1t, but that might be cuz the gain is turned up too high |
| [06:29:00] | simcop2387: | heh |
| [06:29:00] | geoff: | nuonguy: using alsa? |
| [06:29:00] | nuonguy: | Um, if I recall correctly, frontend uses ALSA, backend uses OSS |
| [06:29:00] | simcop2387: | oh hows the menu mockup looking now, http://vdiddy.bounceme.net/~ryan/mythdvdr.png |
| [06:29:00] | nuonguy: | Had to enable OSS in my driver |
| [06:29:00] | geoff: | alsamixer is your friend |
| [06:30:00] | geoff: | ah |
| [06:30:00] | geoff: | nm |
| [06:31:00] | redf0x: | simcop2387, hey not bad. Any reason for the text size change in the description? |
| [06:31:00] | simcop2387: | nope, just a mistake |
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| [06:31:00] | nuonguy: | simcop2387: looks nice |
| [06:31:00] | simcop2387: | it'll autogenerate the dvd off of recorded mpeg2 streams, i'll add support later for nuvexport for non encoder cards |
| [06:31:00] | diamon: | And now I pray and bounce my myth box.... |
| [06:32:00] | simcop2387: | heh |
| [06:32:00] | mchou: | hey, anyone here use Fusion HDTV (atsc)? |
| [06:33:00] | mchou: | looks like air2pc will finally be shipping..... |
| [06:34:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, I needto start working on my replaytv to mythtv importer |
| [06:34:00] | mchou: | the new tv season starts next week, right? |
| [06:35:00] | redf0x: | hey PatrickDK, do you know if you can change the channel using firewire to the cable box? |
| [06:36:00] | PatrickDK: | none I have heard of |
| [06:36:00] | redf0x: | so I'll still have to get an ir blaster... |
| [06:36:00] | PatrickDK: | or use serial |
| [06:36:00] | mchou: | redf0x: look in contrib directory |
| [06:36:00] | mchou: | firewire channel chg works on some boxes |
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| [06:37:00] | mchou: | just ask SlicerDicer- :) |
| [06:37:00] | redf0x: | mchou, contrib directory in cvs? |
| [06:37:00] | PatrickDK: | nice |
| [06:37:00] | redf0x: | or where is this fabled 'contrib directory'? |
| [06:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, what? |
| [06:37:00] | diamon: | Feh, forgot my nvidia driver. Oh well, the backend is working. |
| [06:37:00] | ** SlicerDicer- acts innocent ** | |
| [06:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | contrib? |
| [06:38:00] | redf0x: | SlicerDicer-, we were talking about firewire from a cable box |
| [06:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | waht are thee looking for! |
| [06:38:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: tell them about changing channels via firewire. |
| [06:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well firewire wont work redf0x |
| [06:38:00] | redf0x: | changing the channel over firewire – is it possible? |
| [06:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its not firewire |
| [06:38:00] | redf0x: | oh? |
| [06:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its rs232 |
| [06:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dct 2000 cablebox from comcast is what you need |
| [06:38:00] | mchou: | bah, that's what I meant :) |
| [06:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ask them for the L model |
| [06:38:00] | redf0x: | ah hehe |
| [06:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | make sure it is the L model |
| [06:39:00] | redf0x: | well I was thinking about trying to get the dct 6200, which has a firewire port |
| [06:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | if its not the L model it wont work :) |
| [06:39:00] | redf0x: | I've heard some people are using firewire instead of a tv-capture card |
| [06:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | redf0x, yeah but why? are you using a pvr-*50? |
| [06:39:00] | redf0x: | no I'm still building my box, and wondering if I can save $66 on the pvr-150 |
| [06:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh redf0x I know nothing of that sorry |
| [06:39:00] | redf0x: | no problem, thanks though |
| [06:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | redf0x, think about it in the long run how much you shell out for that box |
| [06:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its 15$ upfront to get that box |
| [06:40:00] | redf0x: | where can I read about the rs232 channel changing? |
| [06:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nowhere |
| [06:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its easy hehe |
| [06:40:00] | redf0x: | hah ok thanks |
| [06:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | too easy to warrent documentation |
| [06:40:00] | cosmo_: | so, its possible to record a file that is mpg2 with a bitrate such that the filesize will be comparable to an mpg1 recording, with better quaility? |
| [06:40:00] | redf0x: | is there an extra monthly fee? |
| [06:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | for that hdtv box yes |
| [06:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | 5$ a month IIRC |
| [06:40:00] | simcop2387: | cosmo_: yes if you tweak it |
| [06:40:00] | mchou: | bs! |
| [06:41:00] | diamon: | The firewire boxes work nice, except the channels which have encryption in their 'digital' format, I've heard. The analog versions of the same channel may well not be encrypted, and thus capturable via a tuner. |
| [06:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | bs to me mchou? |
| [06:41:00] | redf0x: | SlicerDicer-, who is your provider? |
| [06:41:00] | mchou: | you also need to pay for premium channels, no? |
| [06:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | comcast redf0x |
| [06:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, yes |
| [06:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | diamon, thats why I went over svideo + rs232 for changing channels no encryption that way |
| [06:41:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: so it's much more than $15/mo :) |
| [06:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, helped me decide that hehe |
| [06:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, perhaps yes |
| [06:42:00] | redf0x: | any ideas on which channels are encrypted? I think other equipment can use the firewire port too |
| [06:42:00] | diamon: | 'Anything that works' is one of my favorite mottos! :) |
| [06:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | redf0x, I have no idea but I can sure tell you how my box runs what what it cost me |
| [06:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it was pretty minimal really |
| [06:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I mean given the alternative of using what you are talking about |
| [06:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | in the long run you might end up paying way over that 66$ mark that you are trying to avoid |
| [06:43:00] | redf0x: | yeah that makes sense |
| [06:43:00] | mchou: | yeah, no need for homebrew lirc.... |
| [06:43:00] | mchou: | that would just suck. |
| [06:43:00] | redf0x: | well I was also thinking the quality might be a little better if I could keep it digital |
| [06:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | redf0x, when I play mine it looks like dvd quality IMO |
| [06:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | you would never know it was recorded |
| [06:44:00] | redf0x: | I've never seen pvr-150 in real life, so I'm not quite sure what to expect |
| [06:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but I use a very high bitrate |
| [06:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | 4–5gb per movie |
| [06:44:00] | redf0x: | ok well thanks for the help, I appreciate it |
| [06:44:00] | mchou: | I'd wait b4 investing in new HW :) |
| [06:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I use a pvr 350 I mean its pretty much the same as the 150 cept the 150 does not do decode |
| [06:45:00] | mchou: | mpeg4 cards migh be on tyhe horizon :) |
| [06:45:00] | mchou: | might* |
| [06:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, in that case I will upgrade when the time comes :) |
| [06:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | then take my 350 and put it somewhere else to use hehe |
| [06:45:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: like ebay? :) |
| [06:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | more than likely |
| [06:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | unless somebody around here wants it :) |
| [06:46:00] | mchou: | I'll take if off your hands :) |
| [06:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe well when the time comes I will for sure give you a yell |
| [06:46:00] | NightBird: | hey, when recording shows, is there a good way to remove commercials when recording? |
| [06:47:00] | mchou: | NightBird: nope |
| [06:47:00] | redf0x: | SlicerDicer-, I currently have a dct 2524... it has an rs232 port. how can I tell if that will work to change channels? |
| [06:47:00] | NightBird: | doh |
| [06:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | moment redf0x |
| [06:47:00] | mchou: | NightBird: But playback w/o commercial works fine |
| [06:47:00] | mchou: | :) |
| [06:47:00] | NightBird: | yeah |
| [06:48:00] | NightBird: | but some things have about half the recordeing commercials |
| [06:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont know redf0x |
| [06:48:00] | cosmo_: | how accurate is it mchou? |
| [06:48:00] | mchou: | NightBird: huh??? |
| [06:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | redf0x, thats not what I have |
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| [06:48:00] | redf0x: | ok I'll just have to try it when the rest of my hardware gets in |
| [06:48:00] | mchou: | cosmo_: it's pretty accurate for me, around 95%, i'd say. |
| [06:48:00] | NightBird: | my roommate wanted me to record the tennis game tonight.. |
| [06:49:00] | NightBird: | he claims it to be about 50 – 50 commercials – game |
| [06:49:00] | mchou: | I doubt that..... |
| [06:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | redf0x, go to the local cable office and ask for a DCT 2224 L |
| [06:49:00] | NightBird: | I do too |
| [06:49:00] | godsmoke: | it's easy enough to splice out the commericlas |
| [06:49:00] | godsmoke: | commericals* |
| [06:49:00] | godsmoke: | takes roughly 1 minute per 60 minute piece of tv |
| [06:49:00] | godsmoke: | I do it every day |
| [06:49:00] | diamon: | godsmoke: Manually, or can Myth pluck out the commercials? |
| [06:49:00] | NightBird: | but I was wondering if there was a way to remove them, since the thing is roughly 4.5 gigs for the 2 hour thing |
| [06:49:00] | mchou: | godsmoke: not if you live in USA :) |
| [06:49:00] | godsmoke: | I do it manually |
| [06:49:00] | cosmo_: | you mean automatically, or with editing software? |
| [06:50:00] | diamon: | Ah, foo. |
| [06:50:00] | godsmoke: | mchou: I do live in the USA ... |
| [06:50:00] | godsmoke: | cosmo_: with editing software |
| [06:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | redf0x, thats the TIVO cablebox and it works perfectly its the 2224 with the RS232 activated the others do not have it activated IIRC |
| [06:50:00] | diamon: | I'll just keep skipping them and adding storage space. :) |
| [06:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | least thats what they said to me at comcast redf0x |
| [06:50:00] | mchou: | godsmoke: more lile 20 min commercials for 60min of programming |
| [06:50:00] | redf0x: | SlicerDicer-, that one has a HD and stuff? |
| [06:50:00] | godsmoke: | mchou: you didn't read |
| [06:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nay |
| [06:50:00] | cosmo_: | im too lazy to edit, luckily most shows I only want to see once |
| [06:50:00] | godsmoke: | I said it took 1 minute to cut out the commercials for a 60 minute piece of tv |
| [06:50:00] | redf0x: | oh it is made to hook up to a tivo? |
| [06:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | redf0x, none of the HDTV ones will work like that I dont think |
| [06:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | the data port is a DVI port |
| [06:51:00] | godsmoke: | dvi is not a data port |
| [06:51:00] | godsmoke: | it's a digitized image port |
| [06:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | godsmoke, I am just relaying what they told me at comcast |
| [06:51:00] | mchou: | godsmoke: one minute? doesnt even take me that long.... |
| [06:51:00] | godsmoke: | mchou: right, whatever |
| [06:51:00] | godsmoke: | SlicerDicer-: by law, every cable company has to provide a firewire output |
| [06:51:00] | diamon: | mchou/godsmoke: What do you folks use for editing? |
| [06:51:00] | godsmoke: | diamon: custom script |
| [06:51:00] | NightBird: | is there an nuv to avi program for windows? |
| [06:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | either way redf0x AFAIK the HDTV one does not have a rs232 |
| [06:51:00] | mchou: | diamon: myth |
| [06:51:00] | godsmoke: | I set in and out points with a quick scan in vlc |
| [06:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | godsmoke, really then why do mine not have it? |
| [06:51:00] | mchou: | godsmoke: that's just silly |
| [06:51:00] | diamon: | mchou: Really? How do you do it with Myth? |
| [06:52:00] | godsmoke: | SlicerDicer-: you have to ask for it |
| [06:52:00] | godsmoke: | mchou: not at all |
| [06:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | godsmoke, the model I use does not have it and if I want it I have to pay out the ass |
| [06:52:00] | mchou: | diamon: read the docs: keys.txt |
| [06:52:00] | godsmoke: | SlicerDicer-: no |
| [06:52:00] | diamon: | mchou: Cool, thanks! |
| [06:52:00] | godsmoke: | they must provide an alternative model at no extra cost |
| [06:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | godsmoke, so thats not very by law required to me thats stick it to your ass in cost |
| [06:52:00] | godsmoke: | with firewire |
| [06:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | godsmoke, dude the DCT2224 does not have firewire |
| [06:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | none of them do shall I pull up motorola's site for ya? hmm? |
| [06:52:00] | godsmoke: | SlicerDicer-: I'm telling you that they will give you another box |
| [06:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah at a elevated cost |
| [06:53:00] | godsmoke: | no |
| [06:53:00] | godsmoke: | read the law |
| [06:53:00] | cosmo_: | why does the law require it? |
| [06:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont give a fuck about the law I am telling you what comcast does |
| [06:53:00] | eiggirC: | maybe you guys are talking about different companies ? |
| [06:53:00] | godsmoke: | cosmo_: for compatability |
| [06:53:00] | godsmoke: | no |
| [06:53:00] | diamon: | slicer: They have to offer it, they don't have to make it cheap. :) Try asking them for a cable decoder card. They exist, and are only like $10 for a card from my Comcast branch, but it takes an act of god to get one moving... |
| [06:53:00] | godsmoke: | it's an FCC law |
| [06:53:00] | mchou: | godsmoke: lol, you confusing cablecard :) |
| [06:53:00] | godsmoke: | no, I'm not |
| [06:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, he wont listen |
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| [06:53:00] | godsmoke: | this is very clear, and you can go look it up |
| [06:54:00] | godsmoke: | it's also very well known |
| [06:54:00] | redf0x: | I've heard it is an fcc rule too, but I'm not sure about not being able to charge for it |
| [06:54:00] | mchou: | godsmoke: give us the citation for the law..... |
| [06:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well thats all well and good but its not very likely that comcast will give you that box without extra cost |
| [06:54:00] | godsmoke: | mchou: give me a few minutes — I'll give you the pdf |
| [06:54:00] | mchou: | They ARE allowed to charge extra for FW |
| [06:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | godsmoke, I dont care about the law that does not make a differnece they charge extra for it |
| [06:55:00] | cosmo_: | well, if they violate the law they are open for suits |
| [06:55:00] | mchou: | the law does not say the arent allowed to charge extra for FW :) |
| [06:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | godsmoke, law means provide not provide at same cost I am betting |
| [06:55:00] | cosmo_: | ah, just has to be in existence perhaps? |
| [06:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | provide and provide at same cost are 2 differnet things |
| [06:55:00] | diamon: | Exactly. They have to have interconnects, but the costs only have to be 'reasonable' or something like that. |
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| [06:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cosmo_, I am betting yes |
| [06:55:00] | mchou: | cosmo_: exactly :) |
| [06:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | diamon, exactly and reasonable could be 20$ a month for the box given what it can do |
| [06:56:00] | mchou: | well, maybe $ for me is "reasonable" |
| [06:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | 20$ extra for a box with firewire is not unreasonable given what you would use it for |
| [06:56:00] | mchou: | $5* |
| [06:56:00] | cosmo_: | off topic: how do you provate message someone without annoying them by popping up a seperate chat window? Ive been using \msg but Is there another related command? |
| [06:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, think like a lawyer who is bloodthirsty and say that 20$ is not reasonable haha |
| [06:56:00] | diamon: | Yep, I find $20/month reasonable for digitally-perfect cable (assuming the quality was there, which it isn't always). Basically, Bugs Bunny wasn't made for near-HD resolutions as an mpeg stream, AFAICT. :P |
| [06:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | you would be gutted for saying 5$ is reasonable in a court of law mchou |
| [06:57:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: haha |
| [06:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, :) |
| [06:57:00] | mchou: | that's $60/yr :) |
| [06:57:00] | cosmo_: | I wonder if I should not buy a pvr card, doesn;t the fcc require analogue broadcasts to go off the air eventually? |
| [06:58:00] | mchou: | FW is useless anyways. Encrypted. |
| [06:58:00] | godsmoke: | mchou: no, they're only allowed to encrypt non-broadcast channels |
| [06:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cosmo_, the cablebox converts it |
| [06:58:00] | mchou: | cosmo_: eventually is a LONG time in govt speak. |
| [06:58:00] | godsmoke: | and very few do ... TWC in nyc doesn't encrypt Showtime or HBO |
| [06:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | godsmoke, then what the fuck good is it if you cant use it with HBO and stuff |
| [06:58:00] | godsmoke: | ^ |
| [06:58:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: exactly :) |
| [06:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | godsmoke, thats not comcast |
| [06:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | comcast is evil |
| [06:59:00] | godsmoke: | I didn't say it was |
| [06:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | EVIL!!!! |
| [06:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | EVIL TO THE CORE!!!! |
| [06:59:00] | godsmoke: | move |
| [06:59:00] | godsmoke: | heh |
| [06:59:00] | cosmo_: | slicer, you mean the cablebox converts digital to analogue? |
| [06:59:00] | mchou: | godsmoke: lol, you wanna bet on that for perpetuity? |
| [06:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | sure cosmo_ |
| [06:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cosmo_, otherwise my PVR-350 would not work :P |
| [06:59:00] | diamon: | Yeah, Comcast assuredly encrypts HBO, along with ESPN, APL, Scifi, and a number of others. Until I can get a decoder to use my real cable card, firewire isn't a huge priority for me. |
| [06:59:00] | godsmoke: | mchou: never said anything of the sort |
| [06:59:00] | godsmoke: | I don't use HBO or Showtime |
| [07:00:00] | cosmo_: | guess that means I'll wind up investing in an ir blaster when the broadcast switch comes |
| [07:00:00] | godsmoke: | but, I tested it out — they were free for a month |
| [07:00:00] | mchou: | godsmoke: it just means they havent got around to putting tin the encryption HW at the headend..... |
| [07:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | godsmoke, well free for a month means unencrypted DERR? |
| [07:00:00] | godsmoke: | no ... |
| [07:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its unencrypted for that trial period DUH? |
| [07:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | otherwise how would you get access to it |
| [07:00:00] | godsmoke: | it's unencrypted for everyone in the friggin city who has HDTV |
| [07:00:00] | godsmoke: | because I have about 5 friends who pay for it |
| [07:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | godsmoke, ohh yes mr all knowing |
| [07:01:00] | godsmoke: | and no ... that's not how you access it |
| [07:01:00] | ** SlicerDicer- bows to godsmoke ** | |
| [07:01:00] | godsmoke: | the encryption is only on the firewire |
| [07:01:00] | mchou: | godsmoke: I'm still waiting for the citation of law :) |
| [07:01:00] | godsmoke: | it has nothing to do with receiving the signal |
| [07:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, I think he is trolling |
| [07:01:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: exactly |
| [07:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, obviously he does not know what he is talking about he has yet to produce any tangible evidence for his claims |
| [07:01:00] | diamon: | Slicerdicer: Funny, I was thinking *you* were the troll (DERR?)... |
| [07:01:00] | godsmoke: | that's it — I'm trolling by telling you that TWC NYC has no encryption on the firewire |
| [07:01:00] | godsmoke: | a fact you can look up anywhere |
| [07:01:00] | cosmo_: | cant we all just be friends? |
| [07:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | diamon, lol not really |
| [07:02:00] | mchou: | lol, TWC encrypts analog broadcasts in NYC |
| [07:02:00] | godsmoke: | that's not encryption — learn |
| [07:02:00] | mchou: | must have cable box |
| [07:02:00] | godsmoke: | that's an analog wave deformation called scrambling |
| [07:02:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [07:02:00] | godsmoke: | you're absolutely correct — it still has nothing to do with their HDTV encryption |
| [07:03:00] | diamon: | Whoah, I think I cared for a sec... wait, no, that's just gas.... |
| [07:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | diamon, nah it got started cause godsmoke decided to be a allmighty know it all who has yet to produce any tangible evidence to backup his claims when I was trying to help somebody understand RS232 and Comcast boxes and he goes off about how firewire is required |
| [07:03:00] | cosmo_: | way too much taco bell diamon |
| [07:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | diamon, then he proceeds to say that the law stipulates that you cannot charge more for firewire |
| [07:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | diamon, your caught up to speed :) |
| [07:03:00] | diamon: | Slicer: It is as I recall, I can't recall the citation or why it applies, but firewire is required as an option by request. I looked it up once. |
| [07:03:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: yet godsmoke shows no proof to back up his claims :) |
| [07:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | diamon, but he was claming it has to be provided at the same cost |
| [07:04:00] | godsmoke: | mchou: I can't even grab the pdf here — if I could, I'd be reading the passage |
| [07:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | diamon, that is the problem |
| [07:04:00] | diamon: | OTOH, not that required firewire helps anyone understand rs232 or anything... |
| [07:04:00] | mchou: | diamon: you are indeed correct. But that doesnt mean they cant charge more for it :) |
| [07:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | godsmoke, excuses are like assholes everybody has them |
| [07:04:00] | godsmoke: | smart |
| [07:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | indeed |
| [07:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | insight of true wisdom |
| [07:05:00] | diamon: | Oh hell no, they can charge a decent bit. 'Reasonable fee' is mentioned several times, limited only by a max of half the base cable fees or some such. |
| [07:05:00] | redf0x: | here we go: |
| [07:05:00] | redf0x: | High-definition set-top boxes – Starting April 1, 2004, cable operators must supply, upon |
| [07:05:00] | redf0x: | request, high-definition set-top boxes with functional 1394 “firewire” connectors. By July |
| [07:05:00] | redf0x: | 1, 2005, all high-definition set-top boxes would also require a digital visual interface |
| [07:05:00] | redf0x: | ("DVI") or a high definition multimedia interface ("HDMI"). |
| [07:05:00] | godsmoke: | that's not the fcc law |
| [07:05:00] | godsmoke: | that's some summary |
| [07:05:00] | redf0x: | from http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachm . . . 238850A1.pdf |
| [07:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah so redf0x that does not mean that its to be offered at the same cost thats what he was saying |
| [07:05:00] | mchou: | redf0x: heh, notice there is no mention of additional cost :) |
| [07:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | HAHA pimphand smackdown right there |
| [07:05:00] | godsmoke: | they don't even mention firewire in the entire thing ... it's called by its official standard IEEE 1394 |
| [07:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nice redf0x not fcc law then its fcc.gov |
| [07:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | brilliaant |
| [07:06:00] | godsmoke: | it's the summary |
| [07:06:00] | godsmoke: | written in plain english |
| [07:06:00] | redf0x: | whoa guys, I'm not trying to fan the flames... |
| [07:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yes cause the engrish version says you are not allowed to charge more for the firewire port than a box without it.... |
| [07:06:00] | cosmo_: | hes right, unless its written in lawyerease its not enough, and Im not being sarcastic |
| [07:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | redf0x, ohh dont worry your not |
| [07:06:00] | redf0x: | I'll call comcast on monday and ask if they charge extra for the dct 6200 |
| [07:07:00] | mchou: | redf0x: good, do that :) |
| [07:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | redf0x, :) I know it will cost more I asked 4 weeks ago |
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| [07:07:00] | redf0x: | yeah I imagine they will try to charge more |
| [07:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | 5$ for the box and 5$ for the subscription IIRC that is required if you have the box so 10$ I think |
| [07:07:00] | redf0x: | back to controlling channels over rs232... does that come with myth or is it an add-on? |
| [07:08:00] | diamon: | So long as it *does* more, I'm not afraid to pay for function. |
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| [07:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | redf0x, its in mythtv source |
| [07:08:00] | cosmo_: | 5 bucks a month for the box? |
| [07:08:00] | mchou: | and why you'd pay more for encrypted interfaces is beyond me :) |
| [07:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cosmo_, yeah |
| [07:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, exactly :) |
| [07:08:00] | diamon: | redf0x: Add-on I believe, but commonly used. |
| [07:08:00] | cosmo_: | just for clarification, is this an analogue or digital service? |
| [07:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I have comcast digital cable |
| [07:08:00] | diamon: | As I understand, DirecTV folks use that a lot. |
| [07:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | diamon, hell if I know does it work? |
| [07:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | with directtv? |
| [07:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | if it does then somebody I know would really like to use it |
| [07:09:00] | cosmo_: | ah, so its not a descramble box for the pay-per-view, its a digital to analogue converter |
| [07:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cosmo_, its a cablebox |
| [07:09:00] | redf0x: | cosmo_, no the firewire is to send the digital signal straight to the computer |
| [07:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | search dct2224 |
| [07:10:00] | mchou: | redf0x: computer is the wrong term here :) |
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| [07:10:00] | diamon: | cosmo: The DCT-6200 can decode fine. Firewire is just a digital feed sort of thing. I haven't tried it yet, but I may just for the hell of it. |
| [07:10:00] | redf0x: | mchou, yeah true |
| [07:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | redf0x, but yeah the DCT channel changer is easy to use |
| [07:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | very easy :) |
| [07:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and its also nice cause if the cablebox power is off for some reason it will turn on the cable box |
| [07:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its very cool |
| [07:11:00] | redf0x: | SlicerDicer-, oh really? that is slick |
| [07:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah |
| [07:11:00] | cosmo_: | well, I mean the normal cablebox, without the firewire port, does it rf modulate, or output as rca or something, or is this a digital feed to the tv? |
| [07:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cosmo_, I output from the cablebox via svideo and rca for sound to my mythtv box |
| [07:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I got a splitter thing that turns it from RCA cables to the headphone jack thingo |
| [07:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | then it reverse that to output it to my tv |
| [07:12:00] | diamon: | TV's (except for HD I think) only use analog. The input signal may be analog or digital, depends on how they have things set up. |
| [07:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dunno what that thing is called |
| [07:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its somekinda gender bender though |
| [07:13:00] | diamon: | Just for the hell of asking it; has anyone messed around with Jumbo packets for GigE? over-1500 MTU's? |
| [07:13:00] | cosmo_: | im just paranoid over the analogue to digital switch, afraid to buy an expensive card just to have it useless in howevermany years when everyone is forced to go digital. I guess I'll get the cheap 150 |
| [07:13:00] | cosmo_: | hence my interest in slicers specific setup |
| [07:14:00] | mchou: | cosmo_: I think 150 is worth it, even for a year. |
| [07:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://www.circuitcity.com/IMAGE/product/deta . . . CA.AH205.JPG see that right there? |
| [07:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats how I run sound in and out of my computer |
| [07:14:00] | mchou: | and trust me, it will be for much more than 1 yr. :) |
| [07:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | then I use S-Video in/out |
| [07:14:00] | diamon: | I guess I'm too used to dancing on the bleeding edge... I'm happy enough when I get 1 year out of a $200 or less device, or 2 out of a $200–500... |
| [07:15:00] | mchou: | diamon: get it for $60 is not a bad deal (after rebates) |
| [07:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cosmo_, I got the PVR-350 for 180$ and its already paid for itself |
| [07:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hours of entertainment |
| [07:15:00] | diamon: | Got a PVR-150 already, I love it. Been thinking about getting a 500 for multiple tuners though... |
| [07:15:00] | cosmo_: | hehe.....im poor |
| [07:15:00] | cosmo_: | ;) |
| [07:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | 27 programs, using 113 GB (50 hrs 30 mins) out of 149 GB. |
| [07:16:00] | mchou: | diamon: I meant cosmo_ |
| [07:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | eep... |
| [07:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I need more disk space haha |
| [07:16:00] | diamon: | mchou: Heh, was wondering. :) |
| [07:16:00] | mchou: | $99 for 300GB seagate SATA |
| [07:16:00] | cosmo_: | what bitrate slicer? |
| [07:16:00] | mchou: | oops, PATA |
| [07:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | umm high? |
| [07:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I cant remember what it is let me look |
| [07:17:00] | diamon: | mchou: Really? Not a bad price. Who from? |
| [07:17:00] | cosmo_: | best buy had a 1 day only 15$ 120 gb drive.....wish I knew earlier today |
| [07:17:00] | mchou: | bah, best buy sux |
| [07:17:00] | mchou: | WD sucks too |
| [07:17:00] | diamon: | CompUSA is fun, if for nothing aside from that lovely warranty.... |
| [07:17:00] | cosmo_: | so slicer, you use rs232 to change chanels on the cablebox? |
| [07:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | 6000 cosmo_ |
| [07:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yep cosmo_ |
| [07:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | got it from radioshak |
| [07:18:00] | mchou: | anyone know a good place to buy capacitors? |
| [07:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | radio shack :P |
| [07:19:00] | mchou: | my mobo has one that's about to pop |
| [07:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | they got all kinda weird shit |
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| [07:19:00] | cosmo_: | k, it all makes sense to me now. So even thoug youve moved digital, you still need the card, not for the tuner, but for the rca jacks......I think my purchase decision is finally sound |
| [07:19:00] | mchou: | no, ratshack sux. |
| [07:19:00] | diamon: | Wooo, I used to know a few companies that did nice prices for lots of 100, but it's been a long time since I worked with UPS's at that level... |
| [07:19:00] | opello: | mchou: ask for a sample for a project, may even get some for free :) |
| [07:19:00] | mchou: | diamon: where? |
| [07:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cosmo_, yeah I just use it to imput |
| [07:19:00] | cosmo_: | electronicsgoldmine.com |
| [07:19:00] | redf0x: | mchou, I usually use digikey, but it doesn't make sense for 1 item |
| [07:19:00] | opello: | we got a bunch of neat stuff that way |
| [07:20:00] | mchou: | no, I need 20 caps |
| [07:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cosmo_, I dont use the card for tuner :) the encoder on the card rocks though |
| [07:20:00] | cosmo_: | er is it electronicgoldmine |
| [07:20:00] | opello: | ahh |
| [07:20:00] | diamon: | mchou: Go to a local comp store and tell them you'll buy dead mobo's for $5 each, odds are within 4 you'll get one with a useful cap. |
| [07:20:00] | mchou: | diamon: lol |
| [07:20:00] | diamon: | Oh, 20? That'd take some serious luck. |
| [07:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cosmo_, I can encode + transcode at the same time on 2 different things on a 1.4ghz cpu without issue |
| [07:20:00] | opello: | mchou: replacing them all for good measure? |
| [07:20:00] | mchou: | I was contemplating mouser..... |
| [07:20:00] | mchou: | opello: yeah. |
| [07:20:00] | diamon: | opello: In theory it's best that way to match electrical capabilities... |
| [07:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, what kinda mobo you need? |
| [07:20:00] | opello: | yeah |
| [07:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, socket wise I mean |
| [07:21:00] | mchou: | prefer rubycons |
| [07:21:00] | mchou: | this is for a socket A |
| [07:21:00] | mchou: | XP2000+ |
| [07:21:00] | cosmo_: | transcoding takes advantage of hardware encoders? I didn't know that |
| [07:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cosmo_, no it does not |
| [07:21:00] | cosmo_: | oh |
| [07:21:00] | diamon: | If it could, that'd rock. :P |
| [07:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cosmo_, what I am saying is I can encode without using the cpu power hence the cpu can concentrate on transcoding |
| [07:22:00] | diamon: | Though I do wish someone'd do a DivX hardware encoder card you could toss an MPEG stream to... |
| [07:22:00] | mchou: | cosmo_: egoldmine, thay have a web site?? |
| [07:22:00] | diamon: | Solve two problems at once. |
| [07:22:00] | cosmo_: | SlicerDicer-, what kind of cpu usage do you see when transcoding? I hear its a really low nice level apparently? How long does it take? |
| [07:23:00] | cosmo_: | mchou, I do think so, lemme find it |
| [07:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cosmo_, well I set it to go at full boar on the transcode and it can take about 2 hours or so depending |
| [07:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats just to slice out commercials |
| [07:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have only done it once though |
| [07:23:00] | mchou: | http://www.electronicgoldmine.com/ is the wrong one. :( |
| [07:23:00] | mchou: | cosmo_: you ever buy stuff from arrow? |
| [07:24:00] | cosmo_: | http://www.goldmine-elec.com/ |
| [07:24:00] | redf0x: | mchou, I've used arrow a few times, they aren't bad |
| [07:24:00] | mchou: | redf0x: do they have minimums? |
| [07:24:00] | cosmo_: | nope, never heard of arrow. I havent done much electronics work for several years |
| [07:24:00] | redf0x: | mchou, hrm I don't remember... mine were usually decent sized orders |
| [07:25:00] | redf0x: | their website isn't as easy as newark and digikey's though |
| [07:25:00] | mchou: | cosmo_: arrow is like one of the largest distributors in the US. |
| [07:25:00] | cosmo_: | Slicer, I ask because I am planning on running the backend on my work desktop, just to minimize the number of machines running |
| [07:25:00] | mchou: | redf0x: like define decent size...>$50? |
| [07:25:00] | cosmo_: | Slicer, and to avoid a running machine in the bedroom |
| [07:26:00] | redf0x: | mchou, most of mine were in the 2–300 dollar range, but I'm sure 50 is enough |
| [07:26:00] | redf0x: | at least if it is a common part |
| [07:26:00] | mchou: | redf0x: on their web site they say $30/LINE item. |
| [07:26:00] | mchou: | redf0x: that really scared me off. |
| [07:26:00] | redf0x: | I remember once I needed an uncommon part from them, and they would only sell in lots of like 60 |
| [07:26:00] | redf0x: | you should be able to do it all online and see what the price will be |
| [07:27:00] | mchou: | redf0x: their web site suc. |
| [07:27:00] | mchou: | sux* |
| [07:27:00] | redf0x: | yeah I know :-( |
| [07:27:00] | redf0x: | that's why I stick with newark and digikey |
| [07:27:00] | cosmo_: | frys electronics has a good electronic component selection, unlike radio crap |
| [07:27:00] | cosmo_: | er...I mean, radioshack |
| [07:27:00] | mchou: | I couldnt find shit on their site. |
| [07:27:00] | simcop2387: | 2005-09–11 01:26:54.522 taking too long to be allowed to read.. what does this message mean? (it appears whenever i go into livetv mode, which pauses for a second or two) |
| [07:27:00] | mchou: | cosmo_: nah, frys suck too. |
| [07:27:00] | redf0x: | I've never been to frys |
| [07:28:00] | mchou: | cosmo_: I'd hit local surplus b4 frys :) |
| [07:28:00] | redf0x: | but most people like it over RS |
| [07:28:00] | cosmo_: | yeah, your probably right ;) But its paradise compared to what Ive been exposed to |
| [07:28:00] | mchou: | RS I never go to. |
| [07:28:00] | mchou: | way overpriced and seconds. |
| [07:28:00] | simcop2387: | they don't have frys by me |
| [07:28:00] | simcop2387: | dang east coast |
| [07:28:00] | mchou: | bad in the case of capacitors..... |
| [07:28:00] | cosmo_: | RS was once good, then they stopped pertaining to hobbyists and more to people who dont understand electronics |
| [07:28:00] | redf0x: | yeah, I needed a CB antenna once... they wanted like $65 |
| [07:29:00] | cosmo_: | and people that like rc cars...... |
| [07:29:00] | simcop2387: | redf0x: wow, only $65 last i looked at their antennas they usually ran around $80 |
| [07:29:00] | redf0x: | some of their prices are rediculous |
| [07:29:00] | cosmo_: | indeed |
| [07:29:00] | mchou: | redf0x: I think I may have to use mouser for this one.... |
| [07:29:00] | mchou: | mouser is way better than digikey |
| [07:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cosmo_, sure you could do that without having to worry about the cpu usage |
| [07:30:00] | redf0x: | I've only used them once or twice, but I think they usually are a little cheaper |
| [07:30:00] | mchou: | cheaper and better selection. |
| [07:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cosmo_, or you could run one in your bedroom with minimal investment to quiet it down to no noise at all |
| [07:31:00] | mchou: | redf0x: I have a quote from arrow for Rubycon capacitors....8–10wks lead time. :( |
| [07:31:00] | mchou: | but they were cheap though :) |
| [07:31:00] | redf0x: | hah oh well |
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| [07:32:00] | defaultro: | mchou |
| [07:32:00] | mchou: | like 60 caps for $20 |
| [07:32:00] | mchou: | you defaultro |
| [07:32:00] | mchou: | yo! |
| [07:32:00] | redf0x: | electrolytic? |
| [07:32:00] | cosmo_: | you can make your own capacitors with tinfoil and wax paper |
| [07:32:00] | redf0x: | lol |
| [07:32:00] | cosmo_: | trust me, Im a physicist |
| [07:32:00] | cosmo_: | ;) |
| [07:32:00] | mchou: | redf0x: yeah, nice Rubycon low ESR |
| [07:33:00] | mchou: | cosmo_: where? (I'm one too) |
| [07:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | sorry I am backing up files right now guys if I am not responding |
| [07:33:00] | redf0x: | ok, because 30 cents a cap isn't too cheap for smaller tantilum and whatnot |
| [07:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have about 50gb to backup |
| [07:34:00] | redf0x: | ah monk is on. I love monk |
| [07:34:00] | defaultro: | mchou, did you see my private messages? |
| [07:34:00] | mchou: | defaultro: hold on..... |
| [07:34:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [07:35:00] | cosmo_: | I dont think my private messages go through, so in case not |
| [07:35:00] | mchou: | how the hell do you register on irc? |
| [07:35:00] | cosmo_: | Im a junior at the university of arizona |
| [07:35:00] | mchou: | I forget the command |
| [07:35:00] | cosmo_: | I think its just register |
| [07:35:00] | defaultro: | it's /msg nickserv identify yourpassword |
| [07:35:00] | mchou: | defaultro: ok |
| [07:40:00] | defaultro: | mchou, do we need to buy separate SSL certificate for apache if we are hosting different domain names? |
| [07:40:00] | defaultro: | it's because, i saw SSL wildcard in one of the SSL providers website |
| [07:40:00] | mchou: | defaultro: lol, beats me. |
| [07:40:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [07:41:00] | mchou: | I dont run a web site :) |
| [07:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | defaultro, you showed your head |
| [07:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey I got a question for ye |
| [07:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | does thee still run xda |
| [07:42:00] | defaultro: | Slicer, huh? |
| [07:42:00] | mchou: | never even ran apache ever, if you can believe that. |
| [07:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | defaultro, searching through old archives of mythtv irc chat logs I found you taliking about XDA phones |
| [07:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | :) |
| [07:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I log all chat hehe |
| [07:42:00] | defaultro: | me?\ |
| [07:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yep you |
| [07:42:00] | defaultro: | hmmmm |
| [07:42:00] | defaultro: | i couldn't remember what xda is |
| [07:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xda, imate, qtek name your poison |
| [07:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | pda phone |
| [07:43:00] | NightBird: | I'm going to go to bed now, good night |
| [07:43:00] | defaultro: | i really don't recall |
| [07:43:00] | defaultro: | show that log |
| [07:43:00] | defaultro: | i might recall the conversation |
| [07:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok let me find it |
| [07:43:00] | nuonguy: | I was very sad to see that atitvout hasn't been maintained since 2002 |
| [07:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | [0:00] <defaultro> anyone familiar with xda from O2? |
| [07:44:00] | mchou: | nuongu1: lol |
| [07:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | IRC Log for 2005-05–08 |
| [07:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | bam |
| [07:44:00] | mchou: | nuongu1: you surprised? |
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| [07:44:00] | nuonguy: | yes |
| [07:44:00] | mchou: | ati is the suck |
| [07:44:00] | nuonguy: | I read his web site, and he explains |
| [07:44:00] | nuonguy: | yes they are |
| [07:44:00] | defaultro: | ah |
| [07:45:00] | defaultro: | I remember o2 |
| [07:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | defaultro, nobody answered you back |
| [07:45:00] | defaultro: | let me go to the site, and i will recall it better |
| [07:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok |
| [07:45:00] | defaultro: | i remember o2 :) |
| [07:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | defaultro, I would advise looking at expansys.com |
| [07:45:00] | nuonguy: | So I wonder what the odds are of my old ati card tv out being supported with atitvout.... |
| [07:45:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [07:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | defaultro, nvm I will just pull a picture |
| [07:46:00] | defaultro: | cool |
| [07:46:00] | mchou: | nuongu1: what model of card is it? |
| [07:46:00] | nuonguy: | Radio 7500 |
| [07:46:00] | nuonguy: | With SVHS out |
| [07:46:00] | nuonguy: | I think it's an AIW card |
| [07:46:00] | mchou: | tv out on that just works. |
| [07:46:00] | mchou: | I have one. |
| [07:47:00] | nuonguy: | Really? |
| [07:47:00] | defaultro: | looks like a UK website |
| [07:47:00] | nuonguy: | You mean, plug the SVHS cable to my TV and voila!? |
| [07:47:00] | mchou: | nuongu1: 7500 AIW |
| [07:47:00] | nuonguy: | wow |
| [07:47:00] | mchou: | yup. |
| [07:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://www.expansys-usa.com/zoompic.asp?type= . . . ;code=124580 defaultro check that out |
| [07:47:00] | nuonguy: | Am I lucky or what? |
| [07:47:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [07:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | btw I am going to get one defaultro :) |
| [07:47:00] | mchou: | still a POS of card though. |
| [07:47:00] | defaultro: | what do you think about it? |
| [07:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it says qtek but its all the same shit defaultro |
| [07:47:00] | nuonguy: | So, your mythfrontend menus show up on your TV if you don't hook up a monitor? |
| [07:47:00] | mchou: | yup |
| [07:48:00] | nuonguy: | mchou: I agree, but it might save me a few $ |
| [07:48:00] | nuonguy: | for now |
| [07:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | defaultro, its made by HTC Taiwan be it the Qtek or the XDA or the Imate or the Siemens or whatever :) |
| [07:48:00] | nuonguy: | I don't want to buy a new graphics card |
| [07:48:00] | defaultro: | so it's also a phone? |
| [07:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | defaultro, yep |
| [07:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | phone/pda |
| [07:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | triband gsm |
| [07:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | builtin wifi and 3.2 megapixel camera |
| [07:48:00] | nuonguy: | If I did by a new gfx card, I'd take my older geforce fx 5200 use it |
| [07:48:00] | defaultro: | that's neat |
| [07:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | defaultro, err 1.3 megapixel haah |
| [07:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | my bad |
| [07:49:00] | defaultro: | can we put mythtv frontend on it? :) |
| [07:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | defaultro, well you mentioned it :) |
| [07:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | defaultro, I want to! |
| [07:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, thinks I am crazy |
| [07:49:00] | mchou: | you are crazy |
| [07:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://home.comcast.net/~slicerdicer/compaqthingies.jpg I want to put mythtv frontends on those too |
| [07:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and I am going to try |
| [07:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [07:50:00] | mchou: | no way for myth on that. |
| [07:50:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [07:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yar har blow the man down why dont you |
| [07:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | :) |
| [07:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | defaultro, but anyway you mentioned the XDA |
| [07:50:00] | ** defaultro got to research about SSL certificates on Apache ** | |
| [07:50:00] | mchou: | hey, you guys have too much time on your hands :) |
| [07:50:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [07:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so I was just wondering if you owned one but you dont |
| [07:51:00] | defaultro: | i didn't |
| [07:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I was getting one and I figured maybe you were crazy enough to come across the linux os designed for that phone and were using it trying to get help or something |
| [07:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | one can hope that you were doing that so I could see how you did with it as a labrat! |
| [07:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | BWA HA HA!! |
| [07:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | can you tell I dwelled on that for a while defaultro :P |
| [07:52:00] | defaultro: | :D |
| [07:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:JuRAvafF . . . da&hl=en |
| [07:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | click! |
| [07:53:00] | defaultro: | which one there |
| [07:53:00] | defaultro: | oh the xda |
| [07:53:00] | defaultro: | then i started helping dhofstra :A |
| [07:53:00] | defaultro: | :D |
| [07:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well thanks for ruining my day! :P |
| [07:54:00] | defaultro: | huh? |
| [07:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | just messin with ya |
| [07:54:00] | simcop2387: | i'd love to have mythfrontend on a zarus |
| [07:54:00] | defaultro: | :D |
| [07:55:00] | simcop2387: | then get a wifi adapter and have it tunnel it over the net to my computer, that'd kick ass, live tv over wifi (scaled down of course) |
| [07:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | heeh |
| [07:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | simcop2387, all my frontends are going to be on wifi thoughout the house soon |
| [07:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | silent nonbroadcasting wepkey protected of course so dont get any ideas! |
| [07:56:00] | simcop2387: | wonder how well that'll work, use alot of bandwidth |
| [07:56:00] | simcop2387: | only WEP? |
| [07:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | simcop2387, each computer will have a dedicated wifi station |
| [07:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | they stack real nice you know |
| [07:57:00] | simcop2387: | SlicerDicer-: hope you don't plan on having more than 3 |
| [07:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | simcop2387, why? |
| [07:57:00] | nuonguy: | *sigh* don't have an SVHS cable; I just learned one of the difference between SVHS and S-Video |
| [07:57:00] | simcop2387: | only 3 non-overlapping bands |
| [07:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | there is 11 channels I can butthog it |
| [07:57:00] | simcop2387: | those 11 channels overlap |
| [07:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | really? |
| [07:57:00] | simcop2387: | yep |
| [07:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | wtf? |
| [07:58:00] | simcop2387: | 11 channels with the bandwidth of 3 |
| [07:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | bah |
| [07:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | to hell with wifi |
| [07:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I will just do it wired |
| [07:58:00] | simcop2387: | heh |
| [07:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | run it under the carpet and have a hub in the hallways that splits it |
| [07:58:00] | simcop2387: | it'll be cheaper to do it wired also, but much less fun to brag about |
| [07:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I got plenty of closets to hide the hub in |
| [07:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | simcop2387, yeah but then I can go at gigabit if I use wired |
| [07:59:00] | simcop2387: | good point |
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| [08:24:00] | diamon: | I have some videos (varying codecs) that I'd like to toss to Myth to be played. Is there some folder I can put random-format AVI's into? |
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| [08:27:00] | simcop2387: | diamon: the mythvideo plugin can do that, check out its setup under mythfrontend |
| [08:27:00] | diamon: | Ok, I know where that folder is. It looked like it'd do that, but I wasn't sure enough to try blowing it up. :) |
| [08:27:00] | simcop2387: | hehe |
| [08:27:00] | defaultro: | any ideas why nuvexport is taking so much long when working with HD content? |
| [08:28:00] | defaultro: | everything is disabled too |
| [08:28:00] | simcop2387: | what format are you converting it to? |
| [08:29:00] | defaultro: | dvd |
| [08:29:00] | simcop2387: | what format was it in before? mpeg4? |
| [08:29:00] | defaultro: | starts at 18 fps then goes down to 7 fps :( |
| [08:29:00] | defaultro: | yup, mpeg4 |
| [08:29:00] | defaultro: | what's your recommendation? |
| [08:30:00] | simcop2387: | its got to completely reencode the video along with resizing each frame, my recommendation is to get a faster processor |
| [08:30:00] | defaultro: | it's an athlon 3000+ |
| [08:31:00] | simcop2387: | you need this http://atomchip.com/_wsn/page4.html |
| [08:31:00] | defaultro: | i think, from my estimate, it's gonna take more than 1 week to finish a 1.5 gig file |
| [08:31:00] | mchou: | haha! |
| [08:31:00] | defaultro: | :D |
| [08:31:00] | mchou: | that's rich |
| [08:32:00] | diamon: | Ow... |
| [08:32:00] | simcop2387: | for me its always been about 2x-4x the length of the video to convert to mpeg2 from mpeg4, though i don't have to do that now |
| [08:32:00] | mchou: | defaultro: you shoulda just recorded non HD :) |
| [08:32:00] | simcop2387: | how long is the video? |
| [08:32:00] | diamon: | simcop: Why not? |
| [08:33:00] | simcop2387: | i've got a hardware mpeg2 encoder |
| [08:33:00] | defaultro: | k |
| [08:33:00] | simcop2387: | tv straight to dvd profiled mpeg2's |
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| [08:33:00] | diamon: | Oh, to mp2 from mp4, I didn't read that right. Seems I left my brain in bed today somehow... |
| [08:33:00] | defaultro: | it's because, i'm using air2pc |
| [08:34:00] | chris: | where do I get the mythconverg database if I compiled from subversion? |
| [08:34:00] | defaultro: | what's atom chip for? |
| [08:34:00] | simcop2387: | defaultro: a vaporware website someone setup that has a 6.8ghz proc in a laptop with 1TBram, 2TB hd, etc.... |
| [08:35:00] | defaultro: | oh, gotcha ;) |
| [08:35:00] | defaultro: | too good to be true |
| [08:35:00] | chris: | anybody here compile from svn? |
| [08:36:00] | defaultro: | i'm using svn trunk :) |
| [08:36:00] | defaultro: | but 3 months ago |
| [08:36:00] | defaultro: | i have never recompiled one again yet |
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| [08:36:00] | quink: | any gentoo users here? |
| [08:36:00] | chris: | quink: I'm gentoo |
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| [08:36:00] | chris: | defaultro: where did you import the mythconverg db sql code from when you pulled in the svn trunk? |
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| [08:37:00] | quink: | i can't remember how to edit modules.conf properly, at least hte gentoo way |
| [08:37:00] | chris: | quink if it's for ivtv do nano -w /etc/modules.d/ivtv |
| [08:38:00] | chris: | and then put them also in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 |
| [08:38:00] | quink: | it'll merge whatever is in modules.d into modules.conf or whatever? |
| [08:39:00] | quink: | i'm having trouble with msp3400. updated my kernel and had to recompile ivtv |
| [08:39:00] | chris: | I had to pound out #alias char-major-81 bttv in my /etc/modules.conf because I was using gentoo |
| [08:40:00] | Howie: | should I trade in my pchdtv 3000 for a PVR 500? |
| [08:40:00] | quink: | there we go. modules-update |
| [08:40:00] | chris: | defaultro: where did you get your mythconverg sql code to import when you built from svn? |
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| [08:45:00] | Ryushin: | Hi all. I'm running myth now as the myth user and not root. I can no longer change channels. Which /dev/? do I have to set the permissions on so I can change channels. This is on a PVR-350 card. |
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| [08:50:00] | chris: | ryushin: you can use ptune.pl |
| [08:50:00] | Ryushin: | Oh, I've had it working with myth under root just fine. I'm sure I'm just missing a permissions problem. |
| [08:50:00] | chris: | is the mysql user in your video group? |
| [08:50:00] | Ryushin: | Whenever I change the channel, it changes the number, but does not change the tuner. |
| [08:51:00] | Ryushin: | Oh. |
| [08:51:00] | Ryushin: | Nope. |
| [08:51:00] | chris: | or the mythtv user i mean |
| [08:51:00] | Ryushin: | Yea, that is. |
| [08:51:00] | Ryushin: | It's part of the video and audio group. |
| [08:53:00] | Ryushin: | I've checked the permissions for /dev/video* and the mythtv user is part of them. Even change the perms to 666 didn't change anything. |
| [08:54:00] | Ryushin: | So there has to be another dev device that I don't know about that I need to change. |
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| [08:57:00] | k-man_: | anyone here use xmame? |
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| [09:04:00] | quink: | any of you have bigscreen tvs? |
| [09:04:00] | quink: | i am just wondering what resolution you use to output to them |
| [09:04:00] | Ryushin: | I do. |
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| [09:05:00] | Ryushin: | 1280x720 at 59.94 hz. |
| [09:05:00] | Ryushin: | Oh, progressive as well. |
| [09:05:00] | quink: | hdtv i guess? |
| [09:05:00] | Ryushin: | yea. |
| [09:05:00] | Ryushin: | dlp. |
| [09:05:00] | quink: | i'm using a slightly older 60" sony projection tv |
| [09:05:00] | quink: | its 'hdtv ready' but built like 2000 or 2001 iirc |
| [09:06:00] | Ryushin: | I'm coming off DVI as well. So my modeline is probably going to be very different from yours. |
| [09:06:00] | quink: | ah. damn |
| [09:06:00] | quink: | sounds good |
| [09:06:00] | quink: | i have a dvi port on this tv just don't have the cables or dvi on the vid card to test it |
| [09:06:00] | Ryushin: | If your in the US, make sure you mode line outputs 59.94 hz. |
| [09:06:00] | quink: | 59.94 exactly? |
| [09:06:00] | Ryushin: | Yea. |
| [09:07:00] | quink: | heh |
| [09:07:00] | quink: | i'm using svideo atm |
| [09:07:00] | ** eiggirC bitchslaps mysqld ** | |
| [09:07:00] | quink: | i am doing 800x600 with 'custom' adjustments |
| [09:07:00] | quink: | Option "TVHSizeAdj" "12" |
| [09:07:00] | quink: | etc |
| [09:07:00] | Ryushin: | I got a chaintech nvidia 5200 card with a dvi port from new egg for $45. |
| [09:08:00] | Ryushin: | Though I'm having permission problem right now figuring out why I can't change channels for users other than root. |
| [09:08:00] | quink: | oh |
| [09:09:00] | Ryushin: | I'm sure there is a dev device I'm not seeing that I need to set the perms on. Just don't know which one. |
| [09:09:00] | eiggirC: | is dsmyth.sourceforge.net down? |
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| [09:09:00] | Ryushin: | Well, I'm off to bed. It's 1:09 am. time to call it quites. Take care all. |
| [09:09:00] | quink: | heh |
| [09:09:00] | Ryushin: | Yea. |
| [09:10:00] | quink: | http://sourceforge.net/projects/dsmyth |
| [09:10:00] | eiggirC: | thnks quink |
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| [10:27:00] | roggy: | im going to buy a dvb-t card for my linux box, im currently looking at Twinhan DTV Ter-CI. |
| [10:27:00] | roggy: | anyone who have experience with this card? |
| [10:27:00] | laga: | roggy: www.linuxtv.org |
| [10:28:00] | Agrajag-: | i have a twinhan dtv card |
| [10:28:00] | Agrajag-: | 2 of them actually |
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| [10:29:00] | Agrajag-: | they work fine |
| [10:30:00] | roggy: | agrajag: ok! was there any problem to get them running under linux? |
| [10:31:00] | Agrajag-: | nope |
| [10:31:00] | Agrajag-: | as long as you use a recentish 2.6.x kernel you should be fine |
| [10:35:00] | laga: | argh, this sucks. i've configured my gamepad in zsnes, and when i remove it and plug it back in, its key bindings change apparently. does anyone have an idea? |
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| [10:39:00] | chris: | myth keeps trying to use directfb even though i compiled it without directfb... can someone help? |
| [10:40:00] | laga: | you've obviously compiled it with directfb, or you forgot to install it or you installed it in the wrong dir |
| [10:41:00] | chris: | well that's what i figured, so I went back to do it again, and this time ./configure shows I'm just building in X11 and XV... it says everything else is off. |
| [10:41:00] | chris: | I had it working under the gentoo ebuild, but now I'm dying to roll my own from svn. |
| [10:43:00] | chris: | laga: do you use a precombiled binary, a gentoo ebuild or compile from source? |
| [10:43:00] | laga: | chris: i compile from source |
| [10:44:00] | laga: | chris: you can use the gentoo svn ebuild |
| [10:44:00] | chris: | that's news to me |
| [10:44:00] | chris: | GREAT! |
| [10:44:00] | chris: | but it takes the fun out of making the stuff I already downloaded work |
| [10:44:00] | laga: | chris: it's been posted to the mailing list. gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ |
| [10:44:00] | chris: | there's a lot of traffic to those lists... especially mythtv-users |
| [10:45:00] | chris: | i subscribed, and watch them ocassionally |
| [10:52:00] | chris: | laga when you install from souce do you use --prefix=/usr or --prefix=/usr/local? |
| [10:53:00] | laga: | chris: i use /usr/local/ when i install from source and /usr7 when i use somd kind of package management for it. |
| [10:54:00] | chris: | laga: are you on nvidia-glx drivers? |
| [10:54:00] | laga: | yep. |
| [10:55:00] | chris: | would you mind helping me sort through mentally the fbdev/xvmc/x11(xv) choice please |
| [10:56:00] | chris: | I'm also on nvidia-glx, but am stuck at linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r8 because I have an older nvidia card |
| [10:56:00] | laga: | umm, yeah |
| [10:57:00] | chris: | well, i don't want to bother you |
| [10:57:00] | chris: | Thanks for your time |
| [10:57:00] | chris: | :) |
| [10:57:00] | laga: | no, it's ok, i'm bored atm ;) |
| [10:58:00] | chris: | I also had mythtv complain about using mysql 4.1 |
| [10:58:00] | chris: | did you try mysql 4.1 and have problems with myth? |
| [10:58:00] | laga: | i use 4.0.24_Debian-10-log |
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| [11:19:00] | chris: | laga: when I compile from source while using nvidia-glx, should I --enable the opengl-vsync? |
| [11:20:00] | laga: | chris: it's not a bad thing :) |
| [11:20:00] | chris: | I think I've just about finished deleted all the old mythtv files I installed form the bad ./configure earlier |
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| [11:38:00] | chris: | laga: when I do a "make" in the 18.2 release's mythtv directory... it tells me no targets specified and no makefile found... this is after I ran configure.... and ideas? |
| [11:42:00] | laga: | chris: qmake mythtv.pro |
| [11:44:00] | chris: | ty |
| [11:48:00] | chris: | laga: after qmake mythtv.pro I did just make... and then I got an error with this in it... any ideas? gcc: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations |
| [11:49:00] | chris: | sorry typo |
| [11:49:00] | laga: | nope, sorry. |
| [11:51:00] | chris: | hehe... I had my cflags variable filled with the command todo an svn checkout on svn.mythtv.... that's why it was screwn'up |
| [11:52:00] | laga: | hahahaha |
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| [11:56:00] | NoRemorse: | hello, a quick question, I am putting together a mini-itx pc for my car, it's gonna have some rips of my dvd's abcked up on it, wouyld mythtv be a suitable program to allow the kids to be able to watch the dvd's in the car using only a mouse? |
| [11:56:00] | laga: | mythtv doesnt support a mouse. |
| [11:57:00] | chris: | noremorese... you could use evdev with a wireless mouse and put some of those 7 buttons to good use... like play stop fast/rev next/back |
| [11:57:00] | chris: | cause X11 does support the mouse |
| [11:58:00] | chris: | hence QT gets the event handling for the mouse |
| [12:00:00] | NoRemorse: | ok thanks |
| [12:00:00] | chris: | did you get a good price on the mini-itx carputer? |
| [12:01:00] | NoRemorse: | can anyone suggest any other OS's, software, or bios firmware that might make it easier to make a "dvd iso playing set top box" from a pc? |
| [12:01:00] | NoRemorse: | haven't bought yet stilld eciding, prolly get the via nano-itx |
| [12:01:00] | chris: | is that made by asus? |
| [12:01:00] | chris: | or via? |
| [12:01:00] | NoRemorse: | dont think so unless VIA is owned by asus |
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| [12:02:00] | chris: | well asus branded a lot of nITX boards when I was looking a long time ago |
| [12:02:00] | chris: | I've seen a guys setup in the car with a whole mythtv... |
| [12:02:00] | chris: | he basically used a remote control instead of a mouse |
| [12:02:00] | chris: | we do have lirc support |
| [12:02:00] | chris: | ! |
| [12:03:00] | NoRemorse: | yes I have ordered one of these...http://www.dealtime.com/xPO-Keyspan_Keyspan_P . . . aser_Pointer |
| [12:04:00] | chris: | you're gonna give the kids a laser pointer for the highway? |
| [12:04:00] | laga: | wow, i didn't have that when i was younger |
| [12:04:00] | chris: | hehe |
| [12:05:00] | NoRemorse: | I am gonna disable the alser :) |
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| [12:06:00] | chris: | laga: will enabling the processor specific optimizations be good for me like I hope? or is it a misnomer? |
| [12:06:00] | chris: | for sparc or ppc... |
| [12:06:00] | chris: | i'm on x86 |
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| [12:06:00] | laga: | well, why'd you want to use sparc/ppc optimizations on an x86? |
| [12:06:00] | chris: | I don't |
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| [12:07:00] | chris: | I was looking for optimizations for p4 on a kernel w/ smp compiled in |
| [12:07:00] | laga: | --enable-proc-opts or how it's called |
| [12:07:00] | chris: | k, that's what I gave it... do I also have to specify --cpu=? |
| [12:08:00] | laga: | i dont know |
| [12:08:00] | chris: | thanks anyways |
| [12:08:00] | chris: | <---- wants to start carputing too |
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| [12:22:00] | JamMini: | hi, im trying to get mythfrontend working on osx |
| [12:23:00] | JamMini: | it says there is a protocol mismatch, eg front end version 18 and back end version 15 |
| [12:23:00] | JamMini: | yet im running mythbackend 18.1 |
| [12:23:00] | JamMini: | any ideas? |
| [12:25:00] | chris: | what does the console output show when you load mythtv-setup |
| [12:25:00] | chris: | or mythsetup? |
| [12:27:00] | JamMini: | a lot, what do you mean specifically? |
| [12:28:00] | JamMini: | if i run the linux front end it certainly says protocol version 15 |
| [12:28:00] | JamMini: | but surely if im unning 18.1 it should be protocol version 18? |
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| [12:30:00] | chris: | JamMini is this your first mythbox? |
| [12:32:00] | JamMini: | yes, but its been working ok for a while |
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| [12:32:00] | JamMini: | im trying to get a second front end working |
| [12:32:00] | chris: | on another pc? |
| [12:32:00] | chris: | did you set your mysqldb to allow that other host to connect to the mythconverg database? |
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| [12:33:00] | JamMini: | yeah the connection is fine |
| [12:33:00] | JamMini: | its moaning about a protocol mismatch version |
| [12:33:00] | JamMini: | which is what's really strange |
| [12:33:00] | chris: | did you build the second ones with frontend-only? |
| [12:33:00] | stoffel: | JamMini: install the same version of mythtv on all pc's running mythtv |
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| [12:34:00] | JamMini: | its a mac, im trying to find a decent binary |
| [12:34:00] | chris: | eh |
| [12:34:00] | JamMini: | i guess thats the problem |
| [12:34:00] | chris: | not really a problem |
| [12:34:00] | chris: | finding the right support will be the issue. |
| [12:34:00] | JamMini: | yes, cos im guessing the mac guys arent here |
| [12:35:00] | JamMini: | i just dont see why my backend is running using protocol version 15 |
| [12:35:00] | chris: | that is odd |
| [12:36:00] | stoffel: | JamMini: the protocol version has nothing to do with the release version. and iirc 0.18.1 was still at protocol v 15 |
| [12:36:00] | chris: | stoffel: does that mean using remotes is not an option with current release versions? |
| [12:36:00] | JamMini: | well that would seem to be the problem then |
| [12:37:00] | stoffel: | chris: no, but all your myth installlation must use the same version of mythtv |
| [12:37:00] | JamMini: | i just kinda ssumed i had the latest version, but i dont really use a CVS build |
| [12:37:00] | JamMini: | *want to |
| [12:37:00] | chris: | they're using svn now |
| [12:37:00] | JamMini: | ah yes, i did see that |
| [12:38:00] | chris: | svn.mythtv.org |
| [12:39:00] | JamMini: | so i should be looking for an old binary of mythfrontend for macos |
| [12:39:00] | chris: | ask stoffel he know better than me |
| [12:40:00] | JamMini: | thanks guys |
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| [12:42:00] | JamMini: | stoffel: so when did the change over to protocol 18 happen? |
| [12:42:00] | JamMini: | im guessing its still only in SVN |
| [12:43:00] | stoffel: | JamMini: i don't know exactly, but iirc it changed after 0.18 was released |
| [12:43:00] | laga: | that's exactly what i told you yesterday |
| [12:43:00] | stoffel: | nice :( |
| [12:43:00] | JamMini: | laga: yes, sorry i know, i got myself all confused |
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| [12:45:00] | chris: | is aac support and mythbrowser supposed to be broken on the 18.2 release? or is it my platform? |
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| [12:57:00] | Sneaker__: | Hi! I'am trying to setup mythtv with dvb-t card. I was wondering why my dtv_multiplex table in the mysql database is empty? Shouldnt there be a line for every channel? |
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| [13:02:00] | Agrajag-: | Sneaker__: i dont think it's meant to be empty. mine certainly isn't |
| [13:02:00] | Agrajag-: | it looks like i have an entry for every channel |
| [13:03:00] | Agrajag-: | well in .au it's one for every channel because each channel puts all it's channels on the one frequency |
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| [13:03:00] | Agrajag-: | i believe in other countries they put many (all?) channels on the same frequency |
| [13:04:00] | Agrajag-: | so possibly you only need one entry |
| [13:04:00] | Agrajag-: | anyway dvb channels definately need one mplex |
| [13:04:00] | Agrajag-: | bbs |
| [13:06:00] | chris: | hmm... I only compiled in alsa support... and mythtv tells me it can't create audiooutput when I goto watch tv now... |
| [13:07:00] | chris: | any ideas about if I need arts instead or oss? I thought I should just be using alsa. |
| [13:11:00] | stoffel: | afaik oss is still needed when a sound card is used to record sound during live-tv/recordings |
| [13:12:00] | chris: | I have the hauppauge 500mce I guess I didn't add the 500 to my alsa.conf.... so should I compile in only OSS then instead of alsa? |
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| [13:12:00] | stoffel: | did you change the audio device to alsa in the frontend settings? |
| [13:15:00] | chris: | no... I guess I'll have to test them it was set to /dev/dsp... but my other choices are /dev/adsp /dev/sound/dsp /dev/sound/adsp |
| [13:15:00] | stoffel: | try to enter ALSA:default with the keyboard |
| [13:16:00] | chris: | ok |
| [13:16:00] | stoffel: | or try one of the adsp devices, i don't remeber which one should be used. more info should be in the myhttv.info wiki |
| [13:16:00] | chris: | cool I'll check it out. |
| [13:17:00] | chris: | was that ALSA:default for the audio output device or for the mixer device? |
| [13:17:00] | stoffel: | for the output device iirc |
| [13:18:00] | stoffel: | but look in the wiki for more |
| [13:18:00] | chris: | iirc is remote control right? |
| [13:18:00] | stoffel: | no :) iirc = if i remeber correctly |
| [13:18:00] | chris: | ;p |
| [13:18:00] | chris: | cool |
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| [13:19:00] | stoffel: | hi beavis |
| [13:20:00] | beavis: | re stoffel |
| [13:22:00] | Agrajag-: | <stoffel> afaik oss is still needed when a sound card is used to record sound during live-tv/recordings <-- nup |
| [13:22:00] | Agrajag-: | and you need ALSA:default for the output device and "default" as the mixer to use alsa |
| [13:22:00] | stoffel: | ah, thx Agrajag- |
| [13:22:00] | chris: | agrajag: that worked for me! |
| [13:23:00] | chris: | ya'll rock. |
| [13:25:00] | chris: | About TV Recording profiles... I'm recording liveTV... using the hauppauge 500mce... I've been using 640x480 as the recording profile... Do I lose video that way? Or if I set it to 720x480 do I actually keep better video? (I assume the television signal is 4:3 NTSC) |
| [13:27:00] | diamon: | The combination of your bitrate and resolution decides the quality. I have 720x540 or whatever the max NTSC res is, with a 6Mbit rate as I recall. Works nice. Lower rez can take a lower bitrate and keep the same overall quality I'd think. |
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| [13:28:00] | chris: | daimon: well I now have just set my recording profiles all too 720x480 with the highest encoding rate... I want to watch everything in 4:3 and also want to be able to convert later to xvid from the same source.... |
| [13:29:00] | chris: | since 720x480 isn't 4:30 and 640x480 is... will I end up with something nasty after it gets rescaled? |
| [13:30:00] | diamon: | I'd have to say it's likely. You'd have cropping, stretching, or banding I'd think. |
| [13:30:00] | diamon: | Unless you have a widescreen TV, I suppose. |
| [13:30:00] | chris: | well if I always go straight to DVD... then the 720x480 is perfect right? |
| [13:30:00] | diamon: | Yes, I think that's one of the DVD resolutions. I don't know for certain offhand. |
| [13:32:00] | chris: | brb |
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| [13:56:00] | diamon: | It's incredible. Every time I upgrade a CPU, they upgrade the piggishness of the kernel to make compiles take just as long as ever. :P |
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| [14:04:00] | fatmatt: | anyone else using 2.6.12 kernel? |
| [14:04:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, 640x480 is only 4x3 if you have square pixels |
| [14:05:00] | fatmatt: | I'm using alsa but /dev/dsp seems to have disapperaed |
| [14:09:00] | diamon: | Might explain what happened to my sound... |
| [14:13:00] | Agrajag-: | diamon: kernel compiles a lot slower on gcc 3.x and 4.x than 2.95 apparently |
| [14:14:00] | Agrajag-: | and if /dev/dsp isn't there then you probably didn't build in alsa oss stuff |
| [14:14:00] | diamon: | Could be that too, it just seems to take forever. Anyway, I'm bouncing the box now that I've recompiled again. |
| [14:17:00] | diamon: | Dammit, I have lost sound... Hmm, logfile time... |
| [14:17:00] | Agrajag-: | what sound? |
| [14:18:00] | diamon: | SB Live! |
| [14:18:00] | Agrajag-: | heh shouldn't have a problem with that |
| [14:18:00] | diamon: | You'd think. |
| [14:18:00] | Agrajag-: | you probably missed a module or two :P |
| [14:19:00] | diamon: | There's the ivtv stuff at least... |
| [14:20:00] | diamon: | The emu10k1 stuff's in memory... Odd... |
| [14:20:00] | diamon: | fatmatt: You don't happen to have a Live as well, do you? |
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| [14:21:00] | diamon: | Odd, my mixer was muted out and dropped to min volume. That's very strange. |
| [14:22:00] | Agrajag-: | not really, that's what's normally set by default |
| [14:22:00] | fatmatt: | nahh, that was weird, snd_pcm_oss and snd_oss_pci were ther but not loading |
| [14:22:00] | fatmatt: | modprobe them and I'm away |
| [14:22:00] | diamon: | Did a new kernel change it? Hasn't given me any crap in a long time. |
| [14:23:00] | fatmatt: | diamon: I have a live in my other frontend, there was some hassle getting sound up seems okay now tho |
| [14:23:00] | diamon: | Crap-dammit, it ate my lirc as well... |
| [14:24:00] | Agrajag-: | well you just need to install lirc modules again most likely |
| [14:24:00] | diamon: | Yep, likely. |
| [14:28:00] | diamon: | Yeah, damn new module wasn't downloaded with the new kernel... Ah well. I do wish RPM did things a bit brighter but oh well. |
| [14:30:00] | diamon: | Bah. Restarting lirc didn't help, guess I'll do the windows thing and bounce the box again... |
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| [14:38:00] | diamon: | Dammit, still no remote. This is proving to be a very annoying upgrade... |
| [14:42:00] | diamon: | And now we bounce again... I hate that. Always feels like it's a point for the computer if I give up and reboot to save aggrivation. :P |
| [14:46:00] | diamon: | Arrgh, it keeps dying on me. |
| [14:50:00] | diamon: | Ooookay, I'm done with this .12 kernel version, time to revert to what worked, I really want to watch some freaking TV... |
| [15:00:00] | diamon: | Well, a ln -s /dev/lirc0 to /dev/lirc fixed the remote. Man, every time I think of suggesting Linux to a friend, something like this always makes me pause a bit... Ah well. |
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| [15:09:00] | gf-: | when i try to make mythtv i get this error: common.h:61: error: array type has incomplete element type |
| [15:09:00] | gf-: | as well as: common.h:65: error: array type has incomplete element type |
| [15:09:00] | gf-: | any ideas? i'm using the preview release of ubuntu (5.10) |
| [15:11:00] | ascii`: | gf-, why don't u use apt to dowload mythtv? |
| [15:11:00] | gf-: | i would |
| [15:11:00] | gf-: | but its not there |
| [15:11:00] | diamon: | Looks at a glance like it's missing either the kernel headers or some other common header files. |
| [15:11:00] | trillium: | what about yum? |
| [15:11:00] | gf-: | yum is 64bit right? |
| [15:11:00] | trillium: | no, I just used it to install on an AMD 750 |
| [15:11:00] | jemarcks: | how do i use yum to update the smp kernel? yum install kernelsmp? |
| [15:12:00] | gf-: | hold on, im going to edit my sources.list, cuz i get some errors when i open up synaptic |
| [15:12:00] | diamon: | Yum is 64-bit capable I believe. |
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| [15:16:00] | diamon: | Mmmm, I love commercial skipping... |
| [15:17:00] | gf-: | got it |
| [15:17:00] | gf-: | wasnt reading my repositories for some reason |
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| [15:23:00] | ascii`: | anyone got a howto on how to build lirc-kernel-source in debian..i can't get mine to work in anyway.. |
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| [15:40:00] | Asphalt: | All of my audio is routed to my digital out, the sound is working fine, but when i fast forward a dvd I hear this loud repeating popping and clickng noises. Anyone know where to begin resolving this? |
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| [16:08:00] | Sneaker__: | Agrajag-, Do you have any ideas how I could fill my dtv_multiplex table? |
| [16:08:00] | Sneaker__: | channel scan wont do it |
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| [16:19:00] | Sneaker__: | Anybody from Finland? |
| [16:23:00] | Sneaker__: | what is the difference between mythtvsetup and mythtv-setup? |
| [16:25:00] | stoffel: | there is none. newer version of mythtv install setup as mythtv-setup. some packages installed it with different names in the past, so mythtvsetup might be a left-over from an older version of mythtv |
| [16:25:00] | Sneaker__: | ok |
| [16:26:00] | Sneaker__: | I got excited that would be the problem but I guess not |
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| [16:54:00] | Dibblah: | When you say scan for channels sees channels, what do you mean? |
| [16:55:00] | Sneaker__: | me? |
| [16:56:00] | Sneaker__: | So, when I do channelscan with mythtvsetup it will find about ~10 channels. And that is correct amount. |
| [16:56:00] | Sneaker__: | So no problem there |
| [16:57:00] | Sneaker__: | but for some strange reason it doesnt insert the data into the database |
| [16:57:00] | Sneaker__: | or atleast I think it doesnt |
| [16:57:00] | Sneaker__: | dtv_multiplex is empty |
| [16:57:00] | Sneaker__: | and mythbackend says that no PIDS set |
| [16:58:00] | Sneaker__: | hmm |
| [16:58:00] | Sneaker__: | I think I solved the problem |
| [16:59:00] | Dibblah: | You pressed the last button which commits the changes to the DB? |
| [16:59:00] | Dibblah: | Rather than back or escape? |
| [16:59:00] | Sneaker__: | yep. |
| [17:00:00] | Dibblah: | ;) |
| [17:00:00] | Sneaker__: | I think that my database was corrupted or something |
| [17:00:00] | Sneaker__: | which is strange |
| [17:01:00] | Sneaker__: | because I just deleted the database and created again same way I did last time |
| [17:01:00] | Sneaker__: | And now the backend isnt complaining about pids |
| [17:01:00] | Sneaker__: | but mythfilldatabase is still running so we will see in a moment |
| [17:02:00] | Sneaker__: | yep |
| [17:02:00] | Sneaker__: | dtv_multiplex contains now the necessary information |
| [17:02:00] | Sneaker__: | 3 channelbundles |
| [17:02:00] | Sneaker__: | or is the channelbundle a right word?-) |
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| [17:17:00] | _nero_: | Mythbackend is suddenly telling me there is no configuration for it, so it cant find the mysql server. Where is this config file normally? |
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| [17:18:00] | PatrickDK: | in ~ |
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| [17:24:00] | Dibblah: | Actually, ~/.mythtv |
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| [17:24:00] | Dibblah: | However, if it can't talk to your mysql server, it'll present that dialog. Check if that's running first. |
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| [17:38:00] | Sneaker__: | ok |
| [17:38:00] | Sneaker__: | now it works |
| [17:38:00] | Sneaker__: | but the picture quality sucks |
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| [17:38:00] | Sneaker__: | the picture seems to be "breaking" when camera moves |
| [17:39:00] | Sneaker__: | it "breaks" vertically |
| [17:39:00] | Sneaker__: | any ideas for improving that? |
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| [17:40:00] | Sneaker__: | And I think that picture ratio is bit wrong or something because the picture doesnt fill tv-screen |
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| [17:48:00] | simcop2387: | Sneaker__: dunno what to do about the breaking, but to fill the screen you can go to the playback setup and adjust the overscan |
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| [17:50:00] | Sneaker__: | ok |
| [17:50:00] | Sneaker__: | thanks |
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| [17:51:00] | Sneaker__: | Bit annoying that breaking =( |
| [17:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | "breaking" ? |
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| [18:05:00] | Sneaker__: | GreyFoxx, when camera moves the picture seems to be "breaking" |
| [18:05:00] | Sneaker__: | horizontal |
| [18:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | Something like this ? : http://deinterlace.sourceforge.net/screenshots/index.htm |
| [18:05:00] | Sneaker__: | yes, but only when camera moves |
| [18:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's interlacing effects |
| [18:06:00] | Sneaker__: | ok, anyway to get rid of those? |
| [18:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | Enable Deinterlacing in your playback settings |
| [18:06:00] | Sneaker__: | Even if I use tv? |
| [18:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [18:06:00] | Sneaker__: | oh |
| [18:06:00] | Sneaker__: | ok! |
| [18:06:00] | Sneaker__: | thanks alot. |
| [18:06:00] | Sneaker__: | I will try it. |
| [18:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | even though the TV takes an interlaced output there is no way to really lineup the pixels which what is finally outputted by the videocard |
| [18:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | so we just deinterlace and let the videocard interlace it again |
| [18:09:00] | Krazylegz: | Someone was in here asking about if my ATI tv-out would output interlaced. He said that was better? |
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| [18:09:00] | Krazylegz: | I should try to find that. Maybe you could clear up what he was saying for me? |
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| [18:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | The signal from your videocard IS interlaced. It had to be. But the problem comes with the fact that we have no way to ensure that the frames we send are lined up exactly with what the card outputs |
| [18:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | you are recording an interlaced signal, and if you could output the same it would look better |
| [18:11:00] | Krazylegz: | Right, I think that's what he meant. |
| [18:11:00] | Krazylegz: | Does that still apply if I'm using a PVR-350/250 for input? |
| [18:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [18:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | BUT the 350's outputwont require deinterlacing |
| [18:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | since it outputs a properly lined up interlaced picture |
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| [18:11:00] | Krazylegz: | I'm not using the output. |
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| [18:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | then you have to deinterlace it during playback |
| [18:12:00] | Sneaker__: | Hmm |
| [18:13:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, I don't think I have a choice, even though I have the option in MythTV setup. |
| [18:13:00] | Sneaker__: | there seems to be diffrent ways doing this |
| [18:13:00] | Sneaker__: | in the menu |
| [18:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sneaker__: Yup. Pick what works best for you |
| [18:13:00] | Sneaker__: | yep. |
| [18:13:00] | Sneaker__: | thank you, this helped. |
| [18:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | Krazylegz: A choice about what ? |
| [18:14:00] | Krazylegz: | Interlaced/deinterlaced output. |
| [18:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well of course you have the choice (if you are not outputting via the 350) |
| [18:15:00] | Krazylegz: | I don't think my ATI tv-out can output both? |
| [18:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | No video card will. |
| [18:15:00] | Krazylegz: | I tried turning that option off in my MythTV setup, and nothing changed. |
| [18:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you are lucky and the frames line up they you might not have to, but that's not the normal situation |
| [18:17:00] | Krazylegz: | I'm confused. I think I need an interlacing/deinterlacing primer. |
| [18:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | Google is your friend |
| [18:18:00] | Krazylegz: | If my video card won't output both, how do I have an option? |
| [18:18:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah. |
| [18:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | you have the option of sending interlaced or deinterlaced frames to the card, you do not have the option of changing what the card outputs |
| [18:18:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh. |
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| [18:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | the deinterlacing happens in software |
| [18:19:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, then why didn't I see any change? |
| [18:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | <GreyFoxx> If you are lucky and the frames line up they you might not have to, |
| [18:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | but that's not the normal situation |
| [18:19:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh, right. |
| [18:19:00] | Krazylegz: | Okay, I think I have a handle on it now. |
| [18:19:00] | Krazylegz: | Also, I just won't touch it. :-) |
| [18:20:00] | Sneaker__: | Hmm, for some reason mythtv GUI is sometimes "bigger" than the TV |
| [18:20:00] | Sneaker__: | is there somekind of offset I can set? |
| [18:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sneaker__: you can control the x/y size and offsets of the menus |
| [18:22:00] | Sneaker__: | x/y size means true pixels or pixels +/- of current x/y? |
| [18:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | it |
| [18:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | 's the actual dimensions of the menu, not based on the size of the screen |
| [18:23:00] | Sneaker__: | ok |
| [18:23:00] | Sneaker__: | its now 0/0 :) |
| [18:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | which is the default |
| [18:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | ie, fullscreen |
| [18:26:00] | Krazylegz: | GreyFoxx: Why aren't you one of the admin types here? |
| [18:27:00] | Krazylegz: | You be smart. |
| [18:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | What do you mean ? |
| [18:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | The only opped user here is chanserv |
| [18:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | or are you referring to not being voiced ? |
| [18:27:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, voiced. |
| [18:27:00] | Krazylegz: | I don't know the IRC terminology. |
| [18:27:00] | twisted_one: | Anyone know how to get X to run at a non-standard res. I want it to run in a widescreen mode, I have added the modeline but it doesnt seem to work. =\ |
| [18:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | *shrug* not like it will change anything I say :) |
| [18:28:00] | Krazylegz: | I guess it makes you more credible. Not that you're not already credible, but... |
| [18:28:00] | twisted_one: | bleh, credibility is really based on IRC status |
| [18:28:00] | twisted_one: | In fact I could provide a decent argument otherwise =P |
| [18:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | Krazylegz: hehe I don't consider a +v to mean shit. It's just there incase the channel is +m'd :) |
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| [18:29:00] | twisted_one: | But yes, greyfoxx is a very knowledgeable man. =) |
| [18:29:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah, okay. |
| [18:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | I wouldn't mind getting opped whenever someone is in here being an ass, but in the end I just ignore them :) |
| [18:31:00] | Krazylegz: | Being voiced means that you can have the ChanServ op you? |
| [18:31:00] | twisted_one: | I dont see too much of that here, thankfully. |
| [18:31:00] | twisted_one: | It just means that he can talk of the channel becomes "moderated". Which basically prevents all who are not from talking. |
| [18:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | Krazylegz: No, voiced means that you can still talk in the channel if it's +m'd (moderated) |
| [18:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | when a channel is +m only ops and voiced people can talk |
| [18:31:00] | twisted_one: | which is known as +m or -m respctfully. |
| [18:32:00] | twisted_one: | Anyways... |
| [18:32:00] | twisted_one: | GreyFoxx: have you done any work getting X running at odd resolutions? |
| [18:32:00] | Krazylegz: | Again, I should Google. :-) |
| [18:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | twisted_one: not a lot. except for 854x480 for a friends projector |
| [18:33:00] | twisted_one: | I have used the command line tool to generate the appropriate mode lines, but X seems to ignore it. |
| [18:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | Your X log should describe why it wont use a particular mode |
| [18:33:00] | twisted_one: | I haven't tried this for a few months, its been on my todo list so I think Im going to get around to it today seeing as how I dont have work. |
| [18:34:00] | twisted_one: | GreyFoxx: Im reading around in there now =) |
| [18:34:00] | twisted_one: | I just thought I would ask incase there is a really simple thing I haven't heard of and I don't want to spend 5 hours solving something that could have taken 5 minutes (I've done that more than a few times). |
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| [19:32:00] | Dibblah: | Woo hoo! Taking over the Myth codebase one line at a time :) |
| [19:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | huh ? |
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| [19:38:00] | Dibblah: | I seem to have a prediliction for submitting one line patches. |
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| [19:41:00] | number6: | hey, is anyone running myth with alsa 1.0.10rc1? |
| [19:42:00] | Dibblah: | Why? You're just about to report it all works swimmingly? |
| [19:43:00] | number6: | hehehehe |
| [19:43:00] | number6: | yep, nothing to report |
| [19:43:00] | Dibblah: | Cool. |
| [19:44:00] | number6: | ... no, my audio/video skips whenever my tuner is active |
| [19:44:00] | number6: | but the tuner seems to work perfectly otherwise |
| [19:44:00] | Dibblah: | What's the tuner? |
| [19:45:00] | number6: | pinnacle pctv pro, bt878 |
| [19:46:00] | xris: | number6: that'd likely be that you have your recording settings too high for the cpu |
| [19:47:00] | number6: | my cpu usage isn't too high... athlon xp 1700 |
| [19:47:00] | xris: | have you run top while watching livetv? |
| [19:48:00] | number6: | yep |
| [19:48:00] | xris: | the other option is that you're saturating the pci bus |
| [19:48:00] | number6: | tv time uses something like 33 percent |
| [19:48:00] | number6: | when i run tvtime, playback is smooth...... but if I try to playback a wav file while tvtime is open, the wav skips the same way myth tv will |
| [19:48:00] | xris: | number6: we're talking mythtv here. |
| [19:48:00] | xris: | ok |
| [19:49:00] | xris: | then that's most likely a pci bus issue. |
| [19:49:00] | Dibblah: | tvtime only uses processing power for deinterlacing. |
| [19:49:00] | number6: | yes, just illustrating |
| [19:49:00] | FatDarrel: | hey guys does the ConvertX PVR work with mythtv ?? |
| [19:49:00] | xris: | since the bttv card sends raw video, that's a huge amount of bandwidth. |
| [19:49:00] | Dibblah: | ... Also, check you have DMA enabled. |
| [19:49:00] | number6: | sorry, where? |
| [19:49:00] | Dibblah: | On your hard drives. |
| [19:50:00] | number6: | oh, for my hard drive, i'm using scsi 10k drives |
| [19:50:00] | xris: | Dibblah: dma won't affect tvtime |
| [19:50:00] | number6: | now for my tvtime example, the picture is flawless smooth |
| [19:50:00] | FatDarrel: | Anyone here ConvertX from Pioneer ? |
| [19:50:00] | Dibblah: | FatDarrel: You mean the mpeg4 thing? Yes, that works. |
| [19:50:00] | number6: | the audio skips |
| [19:50:00] | xris: | number6: how many pci slots in your computer? |
| [19:50:00] | number6: | on a wav file I just recorded from the capture input |
| [19:50:00] | FatDarrel: | Dibblah, its a tv card |
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| [19:51:00] | FatDarrel: | Dibblah, http://www.plextor.com/english/products/ConvertX2.htm |
| [19:51:00] | Dibblah: | DMA will affect tvtime, since if using PIO, there's a lot of busy-waiting. |
| [19:51:00] | FatDarrel: | So i basically get a divx stream out to my tv or what ? |
| [19:51:00] | number6: | 5pci 1agp, all used ;) |
| [19:51:00] | soi-disant: | I have the same issue, all slots taken |
| [19:51:00] | FatDarrel: | I have a question waht is the best hardware based tv card to get Haupage ? |
| [19:51:00] | xris: | FatDarrel: no. records as divx, plays back as whatever you set your video card to do. |
| [19:51:00] | number6: | reeeeally |
| [19:51:00] | xris: | FatDarrel: best for the price is the pvr-150 |
| [19:51:00] | Dibblah: | FatDarrel: So, when I said the mpeg4 thing, you should have said yes :) |
| [19:52:00] | FatDarrel: | Dibblah, yes sir, yes sir |
| [19:52:00] | Dibblah: | Yes, it works with Myth. |
| [19:52:00] | FatDarrel: | xris, and so that is a hardware encoding tv card right |
| [19:52:00] | xris: | number6: best I can suggest is putting the sound card as far away from the tuner card as possible... |
| [19:52:00] | xris: | FatDarrel: the 150, yes. |
| [19:52:00] | number6: | lets see, tuner, scsi, sound, ethernet, wireless ethernet |
| [19:52:00] | FatDarrel: | xris, and you cna use the haupage remote control along with it too |
| [19:52:00] | number6: | ok, thats a good suggestion, i'll give that a shot |
| [19:53:00] | xris: | number6: otherwise, the only fix is likely to be to get a hardware encoder card that'll pull less bandwidth while it's recording. |
| [19:53:00] | FatDarrel: | what do you guys do for remote controls ? |
| [19:53:00] | xris: | FatDarrel: if you get a card with one,y es. |
| [19:53:00] | ** xris uses a wireless keyboard because his RF remote is busted. ** | |
| [19:53:00] | number6: | but if bandwidth was the problem, why doesn't my tuner show any problems |
| [19:53:00] | xris: | (and remotes in general are really slow) |
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| [19:53:00] | FatDarrel: | number6, could be a driver problem |
| [19:53:00] | xris: | number6: could be a pci priority setting or something. I don't know enough about the hardware to tell that. |
| [19:53:00] | FatDarrel: | number6, or just faulty hardware sending crap along the bus |
| [19:54:00] | number6: | the reason I was asking about alsa is because i'm havin to use the development release of alsa to support recording on my sb live 24bit |
| [19:54:00] | FatDarrel: | I was just wondering what is the best remote control for the mythtv setup, I would like one that controls the tv and the volume ? |
| [19:55:00] | number6: | xris, i'll look up how to tweak all my pci settings |
| [19:56:00] | xris: | number6: it's a common issue with non-enterprise-level stuff (meaning, not opteron or xeon) that doesn't have separate pci bridges. |
| [19:56:00] | Dibblah: | Must get around to seeing if the Audigy 2NX is better supported now. |
| [19:56:00] | FatDarrel: | does the PVR 500 work |
| [19:56:00] | Dibblah: | Yup. |
| [19:56:00] | Dibblah: | You'll need recent drivers, however, since the 0.2 series doesn't do the 500, really. |
| [19:56:00] | number6: | hm... do any motherboards support that and desktop processors? |
| [19:57:00] | xris: | number6: no, it's part of the processor architecture. |
| [19:57:00] | Dibblah: | Some of the really cheap server motherboards do. |
| [19:57:00] | Dibblah: | Errr... No it's not? |
| [19:57:00] | Dibblah: | P4, 2 PCI32/66 busses |
| [19:58:00] | xris: | Dibblah: I could be wrong. but every time I've had it explained to me, I'm told no. |
| [19:58:00] | Dibblah: | It depends on the PCI bridge. |
| [19:58:00] | FatDarrel: | Dibblah, so in a couple of months there should be mainstream support I don't understand why haupage doesn't relase linux drivers and help the community out |
| [19:58:00] | xris: | Dibblah: that's different. I'm not talking about separate pci busses |
| [19:58:00] | xris: | but you're correct in that that would work. |
| [19:58:00] | xris: | I mean separate bus for each slot, not separate 32/64 bit busses. |
| [19:59:00] | xris: | but I guess that still makes me wrong about it being built into the proc architecture. |
| [19:59:00] | Dibblah: | Anyway. This is not solving number6's issue ;) |
| [19:59:00] | xris: | true |
| [19:59:00] | number6: | i'm still paying attention though ;) |
| [19:59:00] | mindtriggerz: | hey all. |
| [19:59:00] | xris: | number6: the cheapest solution for a permanent fix (and better for you all around) would be to pick up a pvr-150 |
| [20:00:00] | mchou: | heh, or another sound card :) |
| [20:00:00] | Dibblah: | Or a mpeg4 thing, which is much cooler. |
| [20:00:00] | xris: | mchou: how would that help when the problem is his motherboard? |
| [20:00:00] | mindtriggerz: | I've got a problem. I start up mythbackend and then do a mythfilldatabase, but it always gives me a connection timed out error. |
| [20:00:00] | xris: | Dibblah: and costs 4x as much as the 150 |
| [20:00:00] | mchou: | xris: I thought the prob. was the sound card. |
| [20:00:00] | xris: | well, over 3x, anyway. |
| [20:00:00] | Dibblah: | Yeah, but it's 2x as cool! |
| [20:00:00] | Dibblah: | Oh. Wait. |
| [20:00:00] | number6: | i'm not a fan of hardware encoders |
| [20:00:00] | xris: | mchou: no, most likely it's an overloading of the pci bus bandwidth |
| [20:00:00] | xris: | only happens when he records sound at the same time as video (bttv) |
| [20:01:00] | Dibblah: | What's the motherboard? |
| [20:01:00] | mchou: | or what's the chipset? |
| [20:01:00] | xris: | number6: I own pctvpro and pvr-150 and can guarantee you that the video quality is FAR better from the 150 |
| [20:01:00] | Dibblah: | Yeah. Better question :) |
| [20:01:00] | number6: | i just don't want to spend more money for lossy compressed video |
| [20:01:00] | mchou: | xris: that last statement made no sense |
| [20:02:00] | xris: | number6: huh? it's still lossy from the pctvpro.. you're just encoding in software vs in hardware. |
| [20:02:00] | Dibblah: | number6: So, what exactly are you doing? Adding huffyuv to Myth? I'd love to see your storage array :) |
| [20:02:00] | mchou: | xris: 10>150?? |
| [20:02:00] | mchou: | xris: 150>150??* |
| [20:02:00] | number6: | xris, yeah but there's a whole extra encoding step whenever you use a hardware encoder |
| [20:02:00] | beavis is now known as simone18 | |
| [20:02:00] | xris: | mchou: 150 > pctvpro |
| [20:02:00] | Dibblah: | Not extra. |
| [20:03:00] | soi-disant: | what extra step? |
| [20:03:00] | number6: | i can cut one step of lossy compression by using an analog tuner |
| [20:03:00] | Dibblah: | It replaces doing it in software. |
| [20:03:00] | xris: | number6: no there's not |
| [20:03:00] | Dibblah: | And it does it _much_ better, since the hardware is designed for it. |
| [20:03:00] | number6: | you can't get raw video from a hardware encoder card, you can only get an mpeg2 stream |
| [20:03:00] | number6: | which is compressed |
| [20:03:00] | xris: | number6: the tuner on the pvr-150 is more modern tech, and FAR better than the one in the pctvpro... pctvpro looks blurry compared to the 150. |
| [20:03:00] | Dibblah: | number6: Oh yes you can |
| [20:03:00] | number6: | xris, i'm sure, but theres the cx23883, which is the modern version of the bt878 |
| [20:03:00] | number6: | you can??! |
| [20:04:00] | xris: | number6: correct. but when the quality of the raw video is LESS than that of the hardware encoder, it doesn't matter. |
| [20:04:00] | Dibblah: | /dev/video16 (I think) gives the raw stream. |
| [20:04:00] | mchou: | Dibblah: naw, cant be |
| [20:04:00] | mindtriggerz: | Problem: I start up mythbackend and then do a mythfilldatabase, but it always gives me a connection timed out error. |
| [20:04:00] | simone18 is now known as beavis | |
| [20:04:00] | Dibblah: | However, you're still encoding that lossily using software. |
| [20:05:00] | number6: | i'd really need to see something that would lead me to believe the capture quality of the pvr type cards is better after being compressed than the capture of a cx23883's raw output |
| [20:05:00] | xris: | number6: at ultra-high bitrates, you won't notice any difference with raw video. It's not like we're talking high-res stuff here. |
| [20:05:00] | mchou: | Dibblah: huh??? |
| [20:05:00] | Dibblah: | Okay, /dev/video32. I'm going to keep sending device names until you agree with me. :) |
| [20:05:00] | number6: | if I saw something like that, I would totally get behind a pvr card |
| [20:05:00] | mchou: | Dibblah: has nothing to do with dev names |
| [20:06:00] | number6: | i'm trying to be a total snob about setting up my home theater |
| [20:06:00] | ** xris wishes he still had screen caps from his pctv card ** | |
| [20:06:00] | mchou: | I think a SW encoder is fine, if you have CPU for it. |
| [20:06:00] | xris: | number6: then buy a pvr-150 from a b&m store, test it, and return it if it sucks. |
| [20:06:00] | Dibblah: | mchou: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php? . . . rum_id=27233 |
| [20:07:00] | FatDarrel: | hey if i have a hd cable tuner and I am using a cable box how can I get the HD cable tuner to output to my myth box |
| [20:07:00] | number6: | xris, yes, I know the pctv is a poor tuner, it's old, it's been surpassed by the cx2388x chips |
| [20:07:00] | mchou: | Dibblah: page doesnt come up for me :( |
| [20:07:00] | Dibblah: | Okay... http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:Cu5Tl3bm . . . tv&hl=en |
| [20:07:00] | xris: | but I haven't heard of any v4l non-hardware cards having better quality than the hauppauge cards... raw or otherwise. |
| [20:08:00] | number6: | well i can't afford a pvr now anyway, so it's kindof a moo point |
| [20:08:00] | mchou: | 150 is only $60 after rebates |
| [20:08:00] | Dibblah: | number6: Okay. How this works for you at the moment is raw (YUV) data -> lossy compressor (on the CPU) -> disk file. All you're doing is shifting the CPU burden onto a seperate card. |
| [20:09:00] | xris: | number6: hard to be a snob with no budget. :( but I can sympathize with that. |
| [20:09:00] | xris: | anyway, I think your current option is just going to be not recording audio or watching recordings while you're recording something. |
| [20:09:00] | mchou: | hehe, air2pc looks like it might finally be shipping |
| [20:10:00] | number6: | i understand, hopefully though I can find a way to setup mythtv for lossless software encoding for live tv |
| [20:10:00] | mchou: | number6: what proc you got? |
| [20:10:00] | xris: | number6: lossless software encoding? |
| [20:10:00] | number6: | xris, I can't use mythtv to watch tv then |
| [20:10:00] | number6: | yes, like huffyuv |
| [20:10:00] | xris: | number6: hack a menu option that runs xawtv |
| [20:10:00] | Dibblah: | You're not getting lossless at the moment whatever you do. It's mpeg4 or ... The Other Option. |
| [20:10:00] | FatDarrel: | hey anyone here got an HDTV based pvr ? |
| [20:10:00] | Sneaker__: | how can I enable mythweb? |
| [20:10:00] | number6: | or, maybe rtjpeg is lossless at quality 100 |
| [20:10:00] | xris: | mythtv was not DESIGNED to do non-timeshifted tv, so that's your only option. |
| [20:10:00] | mchou: | number6: what proc you got? |
| [20:11:00] | xris: | Sneaker__: untar, read README |
| [20:11:00] | Dibblah: | number6: Heh. It's not. |
| [20:11:00] | xris: | number6: hardly |
| [20:11:00] | mchou: | number6: what proc you got? |
| [20:11:00] | number6: | xp 1700 |
| [20:11:00] | xris: | in my tests with pctvpro, rtjpeg 100 still didn't look as nice as higher quality mpeg4 software encoding. |
| [20:12:00] | mchou: | lol, that's enough to record and watch at the same time. |
| [20:12:00] | xris: | mchou: except that his pci bus is flooded by the tuner card |
| [20:12:00] | xris: | causes skippy audio/video to record/watch at the same time |
| [20:12:00] | number6: | well a lossless video codec shouldn't be out of the scope of possibility |
| [20:12:00] | mchou: | he never said what chipset |
| [20:12:00] | mchou: | my via chip on XP1800+ does just fine. |
| [20:13:00] | mchou: | and that's crappy via. |
| [20:13:00] | Dibblah: | My goodness! A contented Via owner! Quick! Take a photo! |
| [20:13:00] | mchou: | so something else is going on...... |
| [20:13:00] | xris: | number6: won't happen unless libavi adds lossless theora or something. |
| [20:13:00] | number6: | via kt266A |
| [20:13:00] | xris: | and likely still wouldn't happen because of the cpu usage required. |
| [20:13:00] | FatDarrel: | Dibblah, VIA is a headache |
| [20:13:00] | xris: | anyway, time for me to go be productive. |
| [20:13:00] | Dibblah: | I know. That'a |
| [20:13:00] | mchou: | number6: that's the one I got. your problem lies elsewhere. |
| [20:14:00] | number6: | huffyuv does not have high cpu demands |
| [20:14:00] | Dibblah: | 's why I'm a contented nforce2 user :) |
| [20:14:00] | number6: | thats what I use for recording video on my windows machine |
| [20:14:00] | Dibblah: | It does have high bandwidth demands, however. |
| [20:14:00] | number6: | true |
| [20:14:00] | number6: | very high bandwidth requirements |
| [20:14:00] | mchou: | number6: like I said get another sound card. |
| [20:14:00] | number6: | but perfect picture quality |
| [20:14:00] | Dibblah: | And your array would have to be... Impressive. |
| [20:14:00] | number6: | why? |
| [20:15:00] | number6: | i mean, if it's not too much bandwidth to record and playback a huffyuv stream on the same drive |
| [20:15:00] | Dibblah: | Because huffyuv only gets about 2->1 ratio. |
| [20:15:00] | number6: | then I just need an amount of space relative to how much buffer I want |
| [20:16:00] | mchou: | number6: you cant afford $60 for pvr150 but you can afford the drive space? :) |
| [20:16:00] | mchou: | number6: make no sense to me :) |
| [20:16:00] | number6: | i already own the drive space |
| [20:16:00] | Dibblah: | 10Gb for a 60 minute recording. |
| [20:17:00] | number6: | 10gb for 60 minutes isn't really *that* bad guys |
| [20:17:00] | Dibblah: | Assuming really crappy capture res + color space size. |
| [20:17:00] | mchou: | it's actually closer to 12GB/60min, iirc..... |
| [20:17:00] | FatDarrel: | anyonne know how to get hdtv cable to work |
| [20:17:00] | FatDarrel: | with mytthv |
| [20:17:00] | FatDarrel: | ? |
| [20:17:00] | mchou: | FatDarrel: read the docs? |
| [20:17:00] | number6: | dibblah, ok, what res was that figure you gave me then? |
| [20:18:00] | Dibblah: | 480x480x8 bit. |
| [20:18:00] | soi-disant: | I have an hd3000 but really have done nothing to get it to work |
| [20:18:00] | mindtriggerz: | can anyone help me with a Connection timed out error when I do a mythfillbackend |
| [20:18:00] | mindtriggerz: | ? |
| [20:18:00] | number6: | how many bytes is one pixel in yuv2? |
| [20:18:00] | Dibblah: | mythfilldatabase, you mean? |
| [20:18:00] | mindtriggerz: | yes, sorry. |
| [20:19:00] | soi-disant: | "fill backend" very freudian |
| [20:19:00] | Dibblah: | Post the full mythfilldatabase output to http://www.pastebin.ca |
| [20:20:00] | mchou: | soi-disant: haha, you got such a dirty mind. never even occured to me. |
| [20:20:00] | stf33: | hello !!! |
| [20:22:00] | mindtriggerz: | http://pastebin.ca/22665 |
| [20:22:00] | mindtriggerz: | it sits there for a while |
| [20:24:00] | mindtriggerz: | then it should give me a connection timed out error |
| [20:24:00] | Dibblah: | The fill happened OK, then. Is your backend actually running? |
| [20:24:00] | mindtriggerz: | yes |
| [20:24:00] | Dibblah: | What it's trying to do is tell the scheduler that there's been a schedule change. |
| [20:24:00] | stf33: | I have several problem to sync sound when i export into xvid format any bodies can help me |
| [20:24:00] | mchou: | most likely your backend isnt running or mysql ddoesnt have right perms |
| [20:27:00] | mchou: | any double E's here? |
| [20:28:00] | mchou: | I'm having some trouble with basic math...... |
| [20:28:00] | mchou: | resistance and current :) |
| [20:28:00] | Dibblah: | p=iv :) |
| [20:29:00] | mchou: | Dibblah: nah, that's not what I mean. |
| [20:29:00] | Dibblah: | Damn. You always want the hard answer. |
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| [20:29:00] | mchou: | like why do you need a 10K ohn resistor to slow down 12V 0.17A fan..... |
| [20:29:00] | mchou: | ohm* |
| [20:30:00] | mchou: | as opposed to 20 ohms, which is what my (bad) math tells me :) |
| [20:30:00] | mchou: | likes orders of magnitude off :) |
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| [20:31:00] | Dibblah: | 10k is way too much. You'd get... 12mA passing? |
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| [20:31:00] | mchou: | Dibblah: 10K "works" correctly |
| [20:31:00] | Dibblah: | Personally, I'd just go for the easy option of using the +5 as -ve and the +12 as +ve. |
| [20:31:00] | mchou: | 20 ohm doesnt do jack. |
| [20:32:00] | mchou: | Dibblah: this is in the PSU, heh |
| [20:32:00] | Ryushin: | Anyone have some time to discuss the quality problems I'm having with my PVR-350? |
| [20:33:00] | mchou: | Ryushin: like? |
| [20:34:00] | Dibblah: | mchou: Ah. You're getting the internal resistance of the fan wrong, I think. It's not a resistive load. |
| [20:34:00] | Ryushin: | The PVR-350 is supposed to have a mpeg2 encoder and decoder. When using it for life TV that is coming across, it looks like it may be compresssing it again, or it's not compressing it at all. During really fast motion seens, it goes all blocky. |
| [20:34:00] | Ryushin: | I am using the kernel de-interlace though. |
| [20:34:00] | mchou: | Dibblah: exactly :) |
| [20:35:00] | Dibblah: | Don't use deinterlacing at all if you're using the 350 in and out. |
| [20:35:00] | Ryushin: | Does the PVR-350 dump it's stream progressive or interlated. |
| [20:35:00] | mchou: | Dibblah: fan cannot be idealized as resistive load..... |
| [20:36:00] | Ryushin: | I'm not using the 350 out, I'm going out DVI out of a nvidia card. |
| [20:36:00] | Ryushin: | Oh, and I'm come to the total conclusion, that xvmc sucks. |
| [20:36:00] | mchou: | Ryushin: lol, just figured that one out? :) |
| [20:37:00] | mchou: | xvmc is buggier than roach motel. |
| [20:37:00] | Ryushin: | Yea, after hacking on it for a while. Oh, xvmc works fine, the quality of it's picture sucks rocks. |
| [20:37:00] | mchou: | Ryushin: that too :) |
| [20:37:00] | mchou: | PQ sux rocks |
| [20:38:00] | Ryushin: | It lowered my cpu usage by 200%, but at the expensive of a crappy picture. Not what I wan't. While watching live TV, my CPU is running at 30%. I can live with that, I guess. |
| [20:38:00] | mchou: | 200%??? |
| [20:38:00] | mchou: | what proc is this? |
| [20:39:00] | Ryushin: | Yea. Dropped it from 30% to 10%. |
| [20:39:00] | mchou: | and what display card? |
| [20:39:00] | Ryushin: | nvidia FX 5200. |
| [20:39:00] | mchou: | what proc is this? |
| [20:40:00] | Ryushin: | sempron 64 2600+, which runs at 1600 mhz, which is so underlocked, I've seen people push it to 2600 mhz. I've just mildly overclocked it to 1800 ghz. |
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| [20:41:00] | Dibblah: | 1800 Ghz???? You're my new hero. |
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| [20:41:00] | Ryushin: | Yea! It'a quantum computer. :) |
| [20:41:00] | mchou: | Ryushin: that's weird.... |
| [20:42:00] | Ryushin: | Is that bad or good. What's weird? |
| [20:42:00] | mchou: | I;m using xvmc and my cpu util is around 35% on XP2600+ :) |
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| [20:42:00] | mchou: | with a pvr 150 on a remote backend. |
| [20:42:00] | Dibblah: | That sounds like not using XVMC to me... |
| [20:43:00] | Ryushin: | Wow. I guess I shouldn't complain at all. |
| [20:43:00] | mchou: | Dibblah: xvmc is on.... |
| [20:43:00] | mchou: | blue bar on top and skippy OSD is how I tell :) |
| [20:44:00] | mchou: | and I have a fx5700..... |
| [20:44:00] | mchou: | not that makes much of a diff. |
| [20:44:00] | Dibblah: | The mono OSD doesn't give it away, then? |
| [20:44:00] | Ryushin: | That proc was only $60 from new egg. Got a chaintech mb for $45. Just a stop gap until the dual core athlons come down. |
| [20:44:00] | mchou: | Dibblah: that's what I mean :) |
| [20:45:00] | cosmo_: | which chaintech board? Does it serve you well/ |
| [20:46:00] | Dibblah: | Aaaargh. Bloody stupid Gentoo strikes _again_. Yes, of course I want to start X so it's not listening on TCP. Sassenfrassen... |
| [20:46:00] | mchou: | heh, ok, I take the CPU util back. not running myth ithe cpu util right now is 29% :) |
| [20:47:00] | mindtriggerz: | Dibblah: Gentoo sucks. Use Arch. |
| [20:47:00] | mchou: | so ~6% cpu util if I use myth with xvmc. :) |
| [20:47:00] | Ryushin: | Just the cheapest one they sold. It's model SK8T800. It's a pretty basic board. Though it has a bunch of pci slots which I wanted. It doesn't have any monitoring stuff in it so you won't be able to get lm_sensors to work. |
| [20:48:00] | Ryushin: | But hell, I just wanted to get my PVR working. I wanted to get the 2.2 gz dual core, but they are just too cost prohibitive right now. |
| [20:49:00] | Ryushin: | It's been very stable right now. I've let it run on live tv for a week and not problems at all. Even overclocked to 1.8. |
| [20:49:00] | mchou: | Ryushin: what's the going price for 2.2Ghz x2 right now? |
| [20:50:00] | stf33: | how can i sync sound to video with avidemux2 |
| [20:50:00] | Ryushin: | Well, pricewatch is showing $538. |
| [20:50:00] | mchou: | Ryushin: ouch!! |
| [20:50:00] | mchou: | screw that.... |
| [20:50:00] | Ryushin: | Hince, I'm waiting, and this is just a stop gap solution. |
| [20:50:00] | mchou: | why you need X2 anyways :) |
| [20:50:00] | Ryushin: | Now bad for a total of $113. |
| [20:50:00] | Dibblah: | stf: Are you using the inbuilt transcode stuff? |
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| [20:50:00] | Ediehow: | ih friends! |
| [20:51:00] | Ediehow: | anyone using lirc w/myth? |
| [20:51:00] | Dibblah: | Nope. Noone does. |
| [20:51:00] | Dibblah: | We all use telekenesis. |
| [20:51:00] | Ediehow: | wondering what i need do so that i don't have to hit the forward/reverse button repeatedly |
| [20:51:00] | Ediehow: | do i do repeat option? |
| [20:51:00] | Ryushin: | I want to transcode, watch hd, and record another show, all at the same time. |
| [20:51:00] | stf33: | <Dibblah> What do you meen |
| [20:52:00] | |Tex: | good evening |
| [20:52:00] | |Tex: | i have something strange happening here |
| [20:52:00] | |Tex: | i have 30 channels set up |
| [20:52:00] | |Tex: | but can only see 3 of them |
| [20:52:00] | Dibblah: | stf33: Try using mythencode.pl |
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| [20:52:00] | mchou: | Ryushin: what socket is your sempron? A or 739? |
| [20:53:00] | |Tex: | so changing channels work; but it always jumps to the same channels |
| [20:53:00] | |Tex: | has anybody had some similar experience here? |
| [20:53:00] | |Tex: | i've been searching online now for a few hours; but haven't found anything useful |
| [20:53:00] | Ryushin: | I am have a little problem through changing channels with the pvr-350 through. I can change channels just file being root. But I can't change channels as the mythtv user. It shows the details of the next channel, but the tuner doesn't change the channel. |
| [20:53:00] | |Tex: | the channel table in the db also looks ok |
| [20:54:00] | Ryushin: | mchou: Yea, it's a 754. No much expandability, but hell, it was cheap and fast enough that I could always go in my server when I get the dual core. |
| [20:54:00] | |Tex: | and the ,mythbackend log also shows no errors |
| [20:54:00] | |Tex: | anyone who can help me with this? |
| [20:54:00] | stf33: | Dibblash: Where can i found it ? |
| [20:55:00] | mchou: | Ryushin: does sempron have Cool'nQuiet? |
| [20:55:00] | |Tex: | card is a pvr-150 btw |
| [20:55:00] | Ryushin: | Well, the new sempron 64 has all the new stuff. 90 micron process too. |
| [20:55:00] | mchou: | Ryushin: which sempron you got? :) |
| [20:56:00] | Ryushin: | Let me get it for you. |
| [20:56:00] | mchou: | Ryushin: I ask cause I think Cool'nQuiet is the best thing since sliced bread :) |
| [20:57:00] | mchou: | really makes a big diff in silent operation..... |
| [20:57:00] | mchou: | they should that's put all that in all procs. |
| [20:57:00] | mchou: | they should just* put all that in all procs. |
| [20:58:00] | Ryushin: | I think it's this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819104245 |
| [20:58:00] | Ryushin: | The stock cpu cooler it comes with works great. |
| [20:59:00] | mchou: | Ryushin: hmm, that might have coolQuiet. |
| [20:59:00] | mchou: | but you need a mobo that supports that. |
| [21:00:00] | mchou: | oops, never mind. palermo core. No CnQ, iirc. |
| [21:00:00] | stf33: | Dibblash: OK I found it on my HDD |
| [21:00:00] | |Tex: | anyone knows what's happening? |
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| [21:02:00] | Ryushin: | mchou: Well, with the stock fan, I can't hear it. At all. I have the Silverstone LC17 case. Heck the fan in my DLP TV is louder than my setup. |
| [21:03:00] | sandos: | anandtech has this to say about CnQ: "One note about Cool & Quiet: AMD enables this feature only for models rated 3000+ and faster. It requires a processor driver (downloadable from AMD's website) and when enabled, allows the operating system to reduce the clock speed in several increments to save energy and reduce heat dissipation" |
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| [21:04:00] | Ryushin: | It only uses 62w of power. |
| [21:05:00] | mchou: | Ryushin: how do you tell that? |
| [21:05:00] | ** xris grumbles about his 100w idle athlon mp system ** | |
| [21:05:00] | Ryushin: | http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductIn . . . 1604,00.html |
| [21:05:00] | sandos: | hehe |
| [21:05:00] | mchou: | Ryushin: heh, I thought you meant actual :) |
| [21:05:00] | ** xris wants his wife's p4... 30w at idle ** | |
| [21:05:00] | cosmo_: | whats a good price for a 5 port 100mbit switch........? |
| [21:06:00] | xris: | cosmo_: I got one from buy.com last night for $20 – $10 rebate |
| [21:06:00] | xris: | linksys |
| [21:06:00] | mchou: | xris: what brand? |
| [21:06:00] | mchou: | hmm, not bad. |
| [21:06:00] | xris: | actually, there's a 10% coupon, too |
| [21:06:00] | cosmo_: | linksys ;) |
| [21:06:00] | Ryushin: | Oh, you mean for the whole system? |
| [21:07:00] | mchou: | Ryushin: yeah..... |
| [21:07:00] | cosmo_: | hmm, 40 bucks for a 24 port 100mbit switch.....tempting..... |
| [21:07:00] | xris: | my wife's getting an ibook, so I need to add a switch out by the mythbox so she can get airtunes |
| [21:07:00] | Ryushin: | Don't know how I would measure that without the proper tool. |
| [21:07:00] | xris: | Ryushin: don't think you can. |
| [21:08:00] | xris: | and idle vs load is an issue, too. |
| [21:08:00] | xris: | personally, I only care about idle for my boxes, though. |
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| [21:08:00] | mchou: | xris: nah, you can measure it if you have the very expensive tools. |
| [21:08:00] | xris: | mchou: that's what he said. |
| [21:08:00] | Ryushin: | If I have the tool that is used to measure the inductance on the power cord at the datacenter, it's cake. But I don't have a grand to drop on that tool. :) |
| [21:09:00] | Ryushin: | So, any idea on what is wrong with me change channels? |
| [21:09:00] | mchou: | Ryushin: nope :) |
| [21:09:00] | Ryushin: | I don't think it's a /dev/video* as those all have the correct permissions. |
| [21:09:00] | xris: | Ryushin: I borrowed the smart clamp meter from work to test mine. (cool clamp meter that can measure up to 3 wires inside of a cable) |
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| [21:09:00] | mchou: | Ryushin: what are your perms on /dev/video*? |
| [21:10:00] | xris: | you can actually get cheaper ones that just plug inline with the cable... $20–40, I think. |
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| [21:10:00] | Ryushin: | 660, root:video, and the mythtv user is part of video. Changing it to 666 made no difference. |
| [21:10:00] | Ryushin: | So I think there is another dev device that I need to control. |
| [21:10:00] | mchou: | Ryushin: audio? |
| [21:11:00] | Ryushin: | Same. |
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| [21:11:00] | sphing: | Ryushin: i just joined... what card is this? |
| [21:11:00] | mchou: | how about dev/v4l? |
| [21:11:00] | Ryushin: | pvr-350. |
| [21:11:00] | sphing: | does channel change work outside of myth? |
| [21:12:00] | Ryushin: | It seems that debian doesn't have /dev/v4l. |
| [21:12:00] | mchou: | Ryushin: weird |
| [21:12:00] | Ryushin: | sphing: works using root. Though I haven't tried the ptune.pl as the mythtv user yet. |
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| [21:14:00] | mchou: | xris: the final price on switch was $10 or $20? |
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| [21:15:00] | mouser25: | if you have a pvr150 what driver version are you running ? |
| [21:16:00] | mchou: | mouser25: a version that works :) |
| [21:16:00] | mouser25: | mchou: thanks |
| [21:16:00] | sphing: | Ryushin: whats the verdict of ptune as mythtv |
| [21:16:00] | mchou: | mouser25: version: 0.3.4-x |
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| [21:16:00] | mchou: | mouser25: hehe |
| [21:17:00] | Ryushin: | Wife using the TV. So I'm tying to find the vnc that allows me to take control of :0. |
| [21:17:00] | sandos: | haha |
| [21:17:00] | sphing: | ... awesome |
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| [21:19:00] | mouser25: | ok I added the driver vortex in to modules but eth0 still willnot load does vortex depend on another module i dont know about ? |
| [21:20:00] | mchou: | lol' |
| [21:20:00] | mchou: | modinfo vortex tells all |
| [21:20:00] | mouser25: | ok thanks |
| [21:21:00] | mouser25: | well I wonder how iv been geting my eithernet to work then ... |
| [21:23:00] | Dibblah: | Ryushun: x11vnc |
| [21:23:00] | Dibblah: | And I need to learn to type. |
| [21:23:00] | Ryushin: | Yea. Now I'm setting up xauth. :) |
| [21:24:00] | Dibblah: | Don't bother. xhost + |
| [21:24:00] | Dibblah: | If it's on a LAN. Even if it's not, really. |
| [21:25:00] | Ryushin: | Yea, that use to work. But it seems Debian and Redhat don't use xhost anymore. Unless there is a way to disable xauth. |
| [21:25:00] | Ryushin: | I mean the command is still there, it just doesn't fix it. |
| [21:25:00] | Ryushin: | It's always looking for the MIT MAGIC COOKIE> |
| [21:25:00] | soi-disant: | mmmm.... cookie |
| [21:27:00] | mchou: | Ryushin: well, set that up man :) |
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| [21:27:00] | Ryushin: | Nevermind. Wife gave up the tv. |
| [21:27:00] | mchou: | haha |
| [21:27:00] | sphing: | 'babe i neeeeeeeed it |
| [21:27:00] | Ryushin: | LOL |
| [21:27:00] | Dibblah: | sphing: Yeah. Cos that approach always works. |
| [21:28:00] | Hawko: | Anyone running Myth on FC4? |
| [21:28:00] | mchou: | 'babe i neeeeeeeed it BAD! |
| [21:28:00] | sphing: | haha... wouldn't kno.... i just deal with my roommate... |
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| [21:28:00] | slePP: | Dibblah: sorry, i have to ask again, because i forget if you answered last time |
| [21:28:00] | slePP: | where's the name from? |
| [21:29:00] | mouser25: | mchou when you said 0.3.4-x did you mena version x or just one of the 0.3.4 versions |
| [21:29:00] | mchou: | mouser25: exactly what it said. version x |
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| [21:29:00] | Ryushin: | No go on ptune either. |
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| [21:29:00] | mouser25: | mchou ok |
| [21:29:00] | sphing: | but it works with root? |
| [21:30:00] | Ryushin: | yep. |
| [21:30:00] | Ryushin: | So there has to be a perm problem. I would think. |
| [21:30:00] | sphing: | ln -l /dev/video* |
| [21:30:00] | sphing: | sorry |
| [21:30:00] | sphing: | ls* |
| [21:31:00] | Ryushin: | All owned by root:video. 660. Though changing the perms to 666 made no difference. |
| [21:31:00] | Ryushin: | The mythtv is part of the video group. |
| [21:32:00] | sphing: | but what i'm saying is... i think you changed the permissions of the link... not the device... ie /dev/video0 isn't the device but a symlink to the device |
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| [21:33:00] | Ryushin: | It's 777. |
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| [21:33:00] | Ryushin: | /dev/video is a symlink to video0. |
| [21:34:00] | sphing: | sounds like a perm problem... but if its 777 i dont know what it is. |
| [21:34:00] | NPR_Mike: | trying to find mythtv and ivtv packages for mepis |
| [21:34:00] | mchou: | NPR_Mike: nah, compile from source |
| [21:34:00] | Ryushin: | Is the tuner part of /dev/video* |
| [21:35:00] | mchou: | NPR_Mike: you'd be bette off |
| [21:35:00] | mchou: | better* |
| [21:35:00] | sphing: | Ryushin: on my system video -> video0 -> v4l/video0 |
| [21:35:00] | Ryushin: | Gentoo? |
| [21:35:00] | sphing: | yup |
| [21:35:00] | Ryushin: | Debian puts them all in just /dev |
| [21:36:00] | sphing: | as user mythtv type groups |
| [21:36:00] | mouser25: | mchou guess what that driver works rather well |
| [21:36:00] | mouser25: | mchou I have a black boarder around my video but who cares |
| [21:36:00] | Ryushin: | Never ran that command. Cool. mythtv audio video. |
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| [21:37:00] | sphing: | and ptune still isnt working? |
| [21:37:00] | mouser25: | look in your dmesg |
| [21:38:00] | Ryushin: | Ptune, still no go. |
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| [21:39:00] | sphing: | ugh... i really have no idea |
| [21:39:00] | Ryushin: | Oh, that's strange. |
| [21:39:00] | mouser25: | sphing nothing in the dmesg |
| [21:39:00] | sphing: | ... in my dmesg? |
| [21:39:00] | mouser25: | ya |
| [21:40:00] | sphing: | ... i dont have a problem |
| [21:40:00] | Ryushin: | I lauched the ptune as root through my ssh window, so my wife could watch, and I can't change the channes either. I wonder if I hung something when I probed with lm_sensors. |
| [21:40:00] | mouser25: | oh |
| [21:40:00] | Ryushin: | Gotta reboot. |
| [21:40:00] | sphing: | i was helping Ryushin |
| [21:40:00] | mouser25: | ic |
| [21:40:00] | mouser25: | mine dident work when I was having problems with i2c |
| [21:41:00] | Sneaker__: | When I try to connect to mythweb it says that "The connection was refused" |
| [21:41:00] | simcop2387: | dang the zap2it lists all episodes of The Daily show as repeats of one from 1999 |
| [21:41:00] | simcop2387: | Sneaker__: is apache running? |
| [21:41:00] | sphing: | yea i noticied that alsp |
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| [21:43:00] | Sneaker__: | simcop2387, sure |
| [21:43:00] | simcop2387: | can you connect to apache? |
| [21:44:00] | Sneaker__: | I spoke too soon, the problem is with apache, not with mythweb |
| [21:44:00] | Sneaker__: | sorry |
| [21:44:00] | Sneaker__: | :/ |
| [21:45:00] | simcop2387: | heh |
| [21:45:00] | simcop2387: | no prob |
| [21:45:00] | Ryushin: | Standing order, if after you mess with lm_sensors, reboot the system. |
| [21:46:00] | Ryushin: | Okay. Now to try and fix the quality of the pvr-350. |
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| [21:47:00] | Sneaker__: | Hmm, next I must check into encoding of recorded videos. Example to ->divx |
| [21:47:00] | Sneaker__: | Is it possible? |
| [21:47:00] | Ryushin: | Now, the PVR-350 should use it's build in encoder to encode live-tv, correct. |
| [21:54:00] | xris: | Sneaker__: nuvexport |
| [21:54:00] | xris: | Ryushin: yes |
| [21:55:00] | Ryushin: | So I should set the life tv recording profile to max? |
| [21:55:00] | xris: | if you want |
| [21:55:00] | Ryushin: | Does it even have any affect on it? |
| [21:56:00] | xris: | more than the 4000–9000 range (min-max) is overkill, though |
| [21:56:00] | xris: | or 6k-9k.. forget what I use. |
| [21:56:00] | Ryushin: | Does it even obey it though? Heres the problem, during really fast motion on the screen, it all goes blocky. |
| [21:57:00] | xris: | hmm. never had that issue with my 150. |
| [21:57:00] | xris: | anyway, afk for a bit... |
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| [21:59:00] | mindtriggerz[h]: | why does Myth hate me? |
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| [21:59:00] | brian_1: | When you run mythfilldatabase, is it supposed to run over and over again until you have to control-c it? |
| [22:00:00] | laga: | no |
| [22:00:00] | sphing: | brian_1: it looks like its running over and over... cause thats a different day |
| [22:00:00] | brian_1: | I must be doing something wrong then. It downloads and completes, then clears the source out and starts over again. Has anyone else had that happen? |
| [22:01:00] | brian_1: | ohhh |
| [22:01:00] | sphing: | look at the output... they should be different days |
| [22:02:00] | brian_1: | Yeah I see it changing days now. |
| [22:02:00] | brian_1: | whew |
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| [22:04:00] | shfhgedshgdf: | how would i go about removing a linux partition is there a program that will completey erase a hard disk? |
| [22:04:00] | Ryushin: | What filters is everyone using? |
| [22:05:00] | sphing: | filters? |
| [22:05:00] | mindtriggerz[h]: | mkreiserfs /dev/discs/disc0/part1 |
| [22:05:00] | Ryushin: | Yea. Under deinterlace. |
| [22:05:00] | shfhgedshgdf: | how would i go about removing a linux partition is there a program that will completey erase a hard disk???? |
| [22:06:00] | sphing: | shfhgedshgdf: the more question marks you add the more likely we are to answer |
| [22:06:00] | laga: | sphing: this is completely off-topic |
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| [22:08:00] | mindtriggerz[h]: | there needs to be a MythTV-monolithic branch |
| [22:09:00] | laga: | monolithic? |
| [22:09:00] | mindtriggerz[h]: | no backend/frontend |
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| [22:10:00] | mindtriggerz[h]: | just a singular entity |
| [22:10:00] | number6: | what would the advantage be? |
| [22:10:00] | ** laga gets the LART ready ** | |
| [22:10:00] | mindtriggerz[h]: | easier to configure |
| [22:11:00] | mindtriggerz[h]: | don't have to mess arround with networking |
| [22:11:00] | soi-disant: | sphing: really?????? |
| [22:11:00] | Sneaker__: | ?? |
| [22:11:00] | Chutt: | why would it be easier to configure? |
| [22:11:00] | sphing: | soi-disant: i deserve more than 6 |
| [22:11:00] | Sneaker__: | I had no problem with the backend<->frontend communication |
| [22:11:00] | Sneaker__: | necessary firewall configurations and it was ready |
| [22:11:00] | mindtriggerz[h]: | i'm having tons |
| [22:12:00] | Chutt: | the _only_ configuration is setting where the mysql database is |
| [22:12:00] | Sneaker__: | and allowing mysql queries |
| [22:12:00] | mindtriggerz[h]: | backend and frontend don't see each other, even though they'r eon the same machiene |
| [22:12:00] | soi-disant: | you think so?????? |
| [22:12:00] | Chutt: | how do the not see each other? |
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| [22:13:00] | brian_1: | On the mythfilldatabase command I am returning this error, which I have not yet found on google: error resceduling id -1 in ScheduledRecording::signalChange |
| [22:13:00] | mindtriggerz[h]: | i launch backend, it starts |
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| [22:13:00] | mindtriggerz[h]: | i launch the front end, it tries to connect to the backend, connection time sout |
| [22:14:00] | Chutt: | and what's it say on the console? |
| [22:15:00] | mindtriggerz[h]: | Connecting to backend server 192.168.15.100:6553 (try 1 of 5) |
| [22:15:00] | Chutt: | you've changed the default ports? |
| [22:15:00] | Chutt: | why? |
| [22:15:00] | mindtriggerz[h]: | I thought it might help |
| [22:16:00] | Chutt: | are you running a local firewall? |
| [22:16:00] | number6: | if its on the same machine, why aren't you talking to 127.0.0.1? |
| [22:16:00] | mindtriggerz[h]: | Oh My God. |
| [22:16:00] | mindtriggerz[h]: | lo wasn't up |
| [22:17:00] | mindtriggerz[h]: | wow. |
| [22:17:00] | mindtriggerz[h]: | but now i'm getting an error Can't read vbi data |
| [22:18:00] | Chutt: | you're getting more errors than that if that's fatal. |
| [22:19:00] | number6: | is vbi used for anything other than closed captioning? |
| [22:19:00] | Chutt: | teletext |
| [22:19:00] | number6: | whats that? |
| [22:20:00] | xris: | like television, but text |
| [22:20:00] | number6: | wow |
| [22:20:00] | xris: | seriously |
| [22:20:00] | xris: | weather/news feeds, if I recall |
| [22:22:00] | mindtriggerz[h]: | strange error flushing buffer. |
| [22:23:00] | number6: | i just looked it up, it's like the data service they used to provide from the bbc |
| [22:24:00] | number6: | kindof like... a static bbs |
| [22:25:00] | Sneaker__: | nuvexport crashes with errormsg that starts with "Use of uninitialized value in print at..." |
| [22:27:00] | xris: | at.... ? |
| [22:27:00] | xris: | Sneaker__: http://svn.forevermore.net/nuvexport/wiki/debug |
| [22:27:00] | Sneaker__: | ok |
| [22:27:00] | Sneaker__: | I will check it out |
| [22:27:00] | Sneaker__: | but now it is time to get some sleep |
| [22:28:00] | Ryushin: | Well, using quickdnr and crop increase the cpu from 30% to 40%. It looks "slightly" better. Is it just me, or does a good DLP just show flaws to easily? But I can still say that the tuner that is in my samsung TV, looks better than the DVR-350. I just thought It wouldn't be like this. |
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| [22:30:00] | _nero_: | here is an interesting one.. reinstalling mythtv.. run mythtv-setup, and the system locks up at the second step. Have to kill X to get out of it.. any ideas? |
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| [22:31:00] | Sneaker__: | One question :) |
| [22:31:00] | Sneaker__: | is there GUI for nuvexport |
| [22:31:00] | Sneaker__: | so that I can run it through TV? |
| [22:31:00] | laga: | Sneaker__: extras.mythtvtalk.com |
| [22:31:00] | laga: | dont expect too much, it may not be what you're looking for |
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| [22:36:00] | simcop2387: | AH BUG! mythfrontend stops playing tv when i switch to a VC from X |
| [22:37:00] | Sneaker__: | laga, thans |
| [22:37:00] | Sneaker__: | thanks |
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| [22:37:00] | simcop2387: | 2005-09–11 16:37:15.019 Timed out waiting for free video buffers. |
| [22:37:00] | simcop2387: | thats what happens |
| [22:39:00] | cosmo_: | is it possible to specify a default bitrate for all recordings, but a custom bitrate for one particular recording? |
| [22:40:00] | simcop2387: | cosmo_: the default recording profile is basically for that, all recordings unless specified otherwise will use that recording profile, then use the low quality and high quality profiles for special recordings |
| [22:40:00] | laga: | cosmo_: just create a new recording profile |
| [22:41:00] | simcop2387: | laga: how do i create a new one anyway? |
| [22:41:00] | laga: | simcop2387: dunno. try 'm'? |
| [22:42:00] | cosmo_: | cool, I'll add that to my "reasons to get myth" list :) |
| [22:42:00] | simcop2387: | laga: doesn't do anything |
| [22:43:00] | simcop2387: | i can create a new group of them but that isn't exactly what i'm after |
| [22:44:00] | laga: | sorry, don't know. i'm off to bed, bye |
| [22:44:00] | simcop2387: | k |
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| [22:49:00] | Atzanteol: | Hey, is there a way to have MythTV set the alsa capture device (to, say, Line) when it begins to record? I've been using skype and if I forget to change it from Mic then Myth gets no audio... |
| [22:50:00] | mchou: | lol, dont use skype then |
| [22:50:00] | Atzanteol: | *grin* Yeah, that's one option. :-) |
| [22:50:00] | mchou: | at least not on that computer |
| [22:51:00] | mchou: | BTW, is skype any good? |
| [22:51:00] | Atzanteol: | I noticed Myth can set the volume and such. Didn't know if I could have it control the audio capture device though... |
| [22:51:00] | mchou: | like can you only call other computers? |
| [22:51:00] | Atzanteol: | I haven't used it much yet, but it seems to do a decent job. |
| [22:51:00] | Atzanteol: | They have a skype-phone gateway if you sign up for a monthly fee. Other than that it's only skype->skype. |
| [22:52:00] | mchou: | you sign up for the gateway? |
| [22:52:00] | Atzanteol: | Notorious, I didn't. |
| [22:52:00] | Atzanteol: | er, No I didn't (damned user name completion) |
| [22:53:00] | Atzanteol: | So I don't know how well that works. |
| [22:53:00] | mchou: | get a real voip gateway instead :) |
| [22:53:00] | mchou: | use a regular phone |
| [22:53:00] | Atzanteol: | Well, for my use (using it from my laptop to call home while travelling) it does the job. |
| [22:53:00] | mchou: | otherwise use the myth source :) |
| [22:54:00] | mchou: | Atzanteol: I dont get it..... |
| [22:54:00] | mchou: | your wife oicks up the "computer phone" at home? |
| [22:54:00] | Atzanteol: | Don't get what? |
| [22:54:00] | mchou: | picks* |
| [22:54:00] | Atzanteol: | Yah. |
| [22:55:00] | mchou: | how does she know when the phone rings? |
| [22:55:00] | Atzanteol: | Skype "rings". It's a soft-phone. You get a little IM-like window. It just uses the PC's mic and speakers. |
| [22:56:00] | opello: | it plays a wav file, heh |
| [22:56:00] | Atzanteol: | Which is why I missed the audio when recording a few shows the other night (hadn't set the capture device from Mic back to Line). |
| [22:57:00] | mchou: | Atzanteol: the solution is easy. Buy another sound card :) |
| [22:57:00] | mchou: | no conflicts |
| [22:58:00] | Atzanteol: | That may be a possibility actually. Get a cheap-o card for Skype... |
| [22:58:00] | mchou: | Atzanteol: nope, cant be a cheapo card. need full duplex. |
| [22:59:00] | Atzanteol: | Ahh, yes. Hrm. Maybe just a cron-job that resets the capture at about midnight (since most of what I record is after mid-night)... |
| [22:59:00] | Atzanteol: | Can Myth run a script before it records? I could do it there... |
| [23:02:00] | simcop2387: | here's a probably long awaited feature that needs to be implemented, livetv to recording with buffer retrieval (grab content from the livetv buffer to record a show if you've been watching it and want to record it) |
| [23:04:00] | Atzanteol: | simcop2387: I believe that's something Tivo does isn't it? Sounds like a nifty feature... |
| [23:05:00] | simcop2387: | dunno about tivo, but its an awsome feature, it'd require that when you hit 'r' to record the recording be made in the livetv profile but otherwise it'd be fine, some people might not like that |
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| [23:08:00] | simcop2387: | and dang, i can't get GL and composite working together with nvidia drivers |
| [23:09:00] | Atzanteol: | Yeah, I don't think composite plays well with GL. :-( |
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| [23:16:00] | enthalpyX: | Hi; I've setup Mythtv using Knopmyth with a PVR-250. When I run mplayer on /dev/video & use ptune to change channels, I only get 1 or 2 channels-- and they're distributed across a wide range (e.g. CBS will appear for channels 65..78). Where should I begin looking to diagnose this? |
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| [23:16:00] | qfx: | OH boy oh boy.. making progress |
| [23:16:00] | qfx: | because hopefully someone can read this |
| [23:17:00] | sphing: | ...? |
| [23:18:00] | qfx: | Q: I can see my capture card (Hauppauge PVR-150MCE) with an 'lspci' I can capture from it (cp /dev/video0 foo.mpg, or mplayer /dev/video0) but it's just static, or blank |
| [23:18:00] | enthalpyX: | qfx: use ptune to change channels |
| [23:19:00] | qfx: | ptune. I'll do some digging |
| [23:19:00] | qfx: | thanks |
| [23:19:00] | LasseL: | or xawtv |
| [23:19:00] | qfx: | I have tried tuning it with ivtvctl |
| [23:19:00] | qfx: | I don't seem to have either of those |
| [23:20:00] | qfx: | I've tried ivtv and tvtime. Since I'm new and I'd spent about 2 days doing web searches and reading faqs, I figured a little live help might work better |
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| [23:33:00] | qfx: | OK, turns out I have ptune.pl in /usr/lib/ivtv/ So I did a /usr/lib/ptune.pl -c 22 and it said it tuned it. I then tried to open the channel in mplayer and it's flickering a half second of static, then blank, then static, then blank |
| [23:34:00] | qfx: | I have some errors come up when I open mplayer :( |
| [23:34:00] | qfx: | Linux RTC init error in ioctl (rtc_irqp_set 1024): Permission denied |
| [23:34:00] | qfx: | Try adding "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" to your system startup scripts. |
| [23:34:00] | qfx: | Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll, /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/avisynth.dll |
| [23:34:00] | qfx: | M |
| [23:35:00] | qfx: | No vidix driver name provided, probing available ones (-v option for details)! |
| [23:35:00] | qfx: | vo: X11 running at 1280x1024 with depth 24 and 32 bpp (":0.0" => local display) |
| [23:35:00] | qfx: | [cyberblade] Error occurred during pci scan: Operation not permitted |
| [23:35:00] | qfx: | Then some others... |
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| [23:53:00] | mirak: | hi |
| [23:53:00] | mirak: | I have an error, mythtv says Titivillus theme not found |
| [23:53:00] | mirak: | "Could not find theme: Titivillus" |
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| [23:53:00] | _nero_: | has anyone had problems with mythtv-setup freezing up? |
| [23:53:00] | mirak: | how can I go back t default theme ? |
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| [23:56:00] | weizur: | [Question]i'm trying to use nvtv to change my resolution and it gives the error Fatal: Compiled without gui i used apt-get which says i have the newest version as well, any ideas? |
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| [23:59:00] | Good4now: | hey running a fedora 4 box and having cd audio problems but can't find a fix for it anywhere have found lots of unresolved posts about it while googling but no resolution |
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