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| [00:06:00] | NightMonkey: | Krazylegz: Yes. (VLC->WMP 9) |
| [00:06:00] | Krazylegz: | Interesting. Do you know which settings you're using with vlc? |
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| [00:07:00] | NightMonkey: | Krazylegz: Lots. I use it with MythStreamTV, slightly modified to also stream to QuickTime. |
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| [00:07:00] | NightMonkey: | Krazylegz: The VLC Streaming HOWTO is very helpful, but you have to read it carefully – skimming will miss a lot of subtlties. |
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| [00:08:00] | NightMonkey: | Krazylegz: The VLC Wiki has some suggested command line ideas for different client players. Check that out. |
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| [00:10:00] | Sylwae: | i have a problem. i have a radeon 7000, my tv out is ok, but when i want to watch tv on mythtv, i see black screen only |
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| [00:10:00] | Krazylegz: | NightMonkey: Thanks, I'll take a look at that. I can't get it working from the CLI well, which I need to do so that I can get MythStreamTV working how I want it. |
| [00:10:00] | Sylwae: | but when i watch tv from mplayer, it's os ... |
| [00:11:00] | Sylwae: | ok |
| [00:11:00] | Krazylegz: | By the way, doesn't trancoding on the fly take too much CPU power for you? |
| [00:11:00] | Sylwae: | any ideas ? |
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| [00:17:00] | Krazylegz: | I can't seem to find anything in the wiki. |
| [00:17:00] | sandos: | anyone using a sempron 2600+? I assume this is more than enough for one frontend... what about backend+2 frontends with a pvr 150? I think it should be fine but... |
| [00:20:00] | NightMonkey: | Krazylegz: transcoding – nope, got an AMD 1600+ in there, and I have a PVR-350, so the box isn't doing too much anyway (just commercial skip scans). |
| [00:20:00] | NightMonkey: | Krazylegz: And the latest and greatest VLC reduced CPU load somewhat. |
| [00:22:00] | NightMonkey: | Krazylegz: http://wiki.videolan.org/index.php/Notes_about_other_clients |
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| [00:23:00] | Krazylegz: | Thanks, I'll check all of that out. |
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| [00:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | does anybody here use widescreen moniters? |
| [00:37:00] | NightMonkey: | OK, is trac the best place to go to see what's coming up in 0.19? |
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| [00:55:00] | pfn: | ok, I'm confused, if mythtv backend depends on mysql, why does mythtv compile without mysql? how does it interface with mysql? command line? |
| [00:55:00] | Chutt: | qt |
| [00:55:00] | Krazylegz: | You can setup a MythTV frontend that does not require MySQL. |
| [00:56:00] | NightMonkey: | Krazylegz: Still needs to talk to it, via a client interface, of course. |
| [00:56:00] | Chutt: | there's no source dependency on mysql, since it uses qt's sql abstraction layer |
| [00:56:00] | Krazylegz: | What for? |
| [00:56:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah. |
| [00:56:00] | pfn: | the mythtvbackend doesn't require mysql? |
| [00:56:00] | pfn: | oh, qt abstraction |
| [00:56:00] | pfn: | hmm, so it should be "trivial" to get it to support pgsql, then... |
| [00:57:00] | Chutt: | nope |
| [00:57:00] | NightMonkey: | pfn: Nope, it is still using SQL. |
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| [00:57:00] | NightMonkey: | pfn: Correction: MySQL-ified SQL. |
| [00:58:00] | NightMonkey: | brb – need coffee |
| [00:58:00] | pfn: | right, but that should be "simple" to fix |
| [00:58:00] | pfn: | it's not as if mysql has the market cornered on functionality |
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| [01:03:00] | NightMonkey: | pfn: But it sure is fast. |
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| [01:05:00] | pfn: | depends on the consumer and application, so fast is relative |
| [01:12:00] | NightMonkey: | pfn: Sure. And, it would seem, for this application and these consumers, mySQL is fast. But, hey, if you change the source code and SQL to accomodate PostgreSQL, I eagerly await your benchmarks! ;) |
| [01:12:00] | pfn: | I'm not so interested in benchmarks so much as just making it work |
| [01:12:00] | pfn: | I've no interest in running mysql, ever |
| [01:12:00] | Krazylegz: | MySQL isn't working for you? |
| [01:12:00] | pfn: | and if that means never using mythtv, oh well |
| [01:13:00] | pfn: | no, I despise mysql |
| [01:13:00] | pfn: | as much as I despise php |
| [01:13:00] | twisted_one: | pfn: port it to postgresql then =P |
| [01:13:00] | twisted_one: | pfn: what are you a C purist? |
| [01:13:00] | pfn: | it's something I'll consider |
| [01:13:00] | Krazylegz: | Heh, so I guess you won't be using MythWeb. |
| [01:13:00] | NightMonkey: | pfn: See ya. |
| [01:13:00] | twisted_one: | pfn: why do you not like php? |
| [01:13:00] | pfn: | because php is a garbage language |
| [01:14:00] | twisted_one: | ok.... |
| [01:14:00] | twisted_one: | garbage is so technical of a term... =P |
| [01:14:00] | pfn: | it's hacky, it does not grow well, poorly managed namespaces (none), etc. |
| [01:14:00] | twisted_one: | there ya go =) |
| [01:14:00] | Krazylegz: | So, JSP? |
| [01:14:00] | Krazylegz: | Perl? |
| [01:14:00] | Krazylegz: | What's your poison? |
| [01:14:00] | pfn: | I'd do jsp perl or python |
| [01:15:00] | Krazylegz: | By the way, are you the same pfn who was in #audiworld on EFnet? |
| [01:15:00] | pfn: | was? |
| [01:15:00] | pfn: | same |
| [01:15:00] | twisted_one: | lol |
| [01:15:00] | twisted_one: | small world = |
| [01:15:00] | twisted_one: | ) |
| [01:15:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, I'm not in there anymore, so I wouldn't know if you were still in there. |
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| [01:42:00] | pfn: | meh, mythv loads the schema dynamically from within the app? boo.... |
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| [01:44:00] | nuongu1: | pfn: You've been griping about MySQL repeatedly; move on! Either invoke your code-fu and fix it or accept it. |
| [01:46:00] | pfn: | well, I'm starting to look at it, that's where these gripes are coming from :p |
| [01:47:00] | nuongu1: | You know where the source is; fix it rather than bitching |
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| [01:48:00] | fweeee: | Hello – quick question – has anyone gotten the new Microsoft Media Centre keyboard working with linux? |
| [01:48:00] | NightMonkey: | fweeee: Wrong channel. |
| [01:49:00] | fweeee: | NightMonkey: Well, I figure a Mythtv channel is the kind of channel people would be trying it in. |
| [01:49:00] | fweeee: | Seeing as though mythtv is a media centre. |
| [01:49:00] | NightMonkey: | fweeee: Try your distro's channel. |
| [01:49:00] | fweeee: | NightMonkey: So it would be specific for distros? |
| [01:50:00] | nuongu1: | fweee: What's not working? |
| [01:50:00] | nuongu1: | What distro? |
| [01:50:00] | fweeee: | nuongu1: Nothings not working – its just it looks cool, but I dont want to buy it and then have it not work in linux (Fedora core 4) |
| [01:50:00] | NightMonkey: | fweeee: There you go. Better to ask in #fedora. |
| [01:51:00] | nuongu1: | It'll probably work just fine, if it's a USB keyboard |
| [01:51:00] | fweeee: | Yeah – I'll give there a go – but unless the people are using fedora for a media centre, its very unlikely they would have tried this keyboard. |
| [01:51:00] | nuongu1: | However, most of the media keys probably will not work outta the box |
| [01:51:00] | nuongu1: | I've tried a few fancy keyboards, and none the media keys work out of the box |
| [01:52:00] | nuongu1: | The sad thing is (for me as a KDE user) that many of them can't be customised easily either |
| [01:52:00] | fweeee: | nuongu1: I kind of figure that – but everything I read about it says "This will only work with windows media centre". It could just be Microsoft BS to steer people towards their OS. |
| [01:52:00] | fweeee: | Hmmm |
| [01:52:00] | nuongu1: | If you invoke the control center and try to assign something to them, they don't get recognised at all |
| [01:53:00] | nuongu1: | Even when you invoke that X program that reports low level keyboard events, can't remember the name right now |
| [01:53:00] | fweeee: | xev |
| [01:53:00] | fweeee: | ? |
| [01:54:00] | nuongu1: | I have a ms media keyboard, a couple years old now, and keys like "My Music" don't show up at all when I invoke xev |
| [01:54:00] | nuongu1: | yeah, xev |
| [01:54:00] | nuongu1: | Well whaddya know? |
| [01:55:00] | nuongu1: | I haven't tried this since FC2, and more of the keys are recognised! :) |
| [01:55:00] | nuongu1: | I should try the KDE control center thing again... |
| [01:55:00] | fweeee: | Hmmm |
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| [01:56:00] | nuongu1: | "Log Off" and "My Music" are still not recognised/reported/whatever by xev... |
| [01:56:00] | nuongu1: | But "Media" FF, RW, volume up&down and play/pause/stop and mute are |
| [01:56:00] | fweeee: | nuongu1: What distro is this with? |
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| [01:57:00] | nuongu1: | But this is a ms natural multimedia 1.0a |
| [01:57:00] | Krazylegz: | NightMonkey: Can I PM about some VLC stuff? |
| [01:57:00] | nuongu1: | FC4 on a thinkpad t30 |
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| [01:58:00] | cosmo_: | anybody here using a pvr-250mce? |
| [02:00:00] | nuongu1: | Ok, that's a downer |
| [02:00:00] | nuongu1: | xev reports events |
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| [02:00:00] | nuongu1: | But, the KDE control center, when I go to "Keyboard Shortcuts" won't allow me to assign the "Media" key to invoking Juk! |
| [02:00:00] | fweeee: | nuongu1: It reports all of them now? |
| [02:01:00] | nuongu1: | control center doesn't seem to be listening to those keys |
| [02:02:00] | fweeee: | bugger. But at least you can use xmodmap to do something with them. |
| [02:02:00] | fweeee: | Maybe not quite the same.. |
| [02:03:00] | nuongu1: | Not the same, and I've only glanced at xmodmap – seems pretty complicated |
| [02:04:00] | fweeee: | nuongu1: Meh – I'm a linux newbie (only learned about linux while installing mythtv a few months back), and it was fairly simple. |
| [02:04:00] | nuongu1: | What was simple? |
| [02:04:00] | fweeee: | using xmodmap. |
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| [02:05:00] | fweeee: | Except when I accidently mapped one letter to another (p to i or something). |
| [02:05:00] | NightMonkey: | Krazylegz: Sorry, busy right now. :/ |
| [02:06:00] | ** pfn tries the patch in trac#240 ** | |
| [02:07:00] | Krazylegz: | NightMonkey: I'll try you later, if you don't mind. I'll go for a pint now. :-) |
| [02:08:00] | nuongu1: | I'm reading the man page for xmodmap; it doesn't say how to make the changes persistent... |
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| [02:10:00] | fweeee: | nuongu1: Persistant? I guess you would have to run the xmodmap command automatically when you boot up for that to happen – I run xmodmap in part of my command to start mythtv. |
| [02:10:00] | pfn: | can mythfrontend run on a remote X11 or only local? |
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| [02:13:00] | Krazylegz: | I suppose you could export it? |
| [02:13:00] | nuongu1: | fweeee: I imagine that on a brand new kb like that, there are more keys for which xev doesn't report any events |
| [02:14:00] | fweeee: | nuongu1: Yeah – I'm kind of suspecting that. Whcih is a pity – the keyboard looks really cool (and comes with a remote). |
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| [02:17:00] | vividan: | Is anyone having issues getting the mythtv debian package to install? |
| [02:17:00] | nuongu1: | fweeee: got 'em link? |
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| [02:19:00] | vividan: | I am getting un-installable packages in stable, testing and unstable |
| [02:19:00] | lwizardl: | Hi |
| [02:19:00] | lwizardl: | is mythtv able to record in HD |
| [02:19:00] | fweeee: | nuongu1: http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkey . . . aspx?pid=038 |
| [02:20:00] | fweeee: | lwizardl: I'm pretty sure that if you can receive in HD, it can record it. |
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| [02:20:00] | vividan: | lwizardl, last I heard you can record from any tv card supported, and there are some over-the-air only HD card supported |
| [02:21:00] | lwizardl: | fweeee: but does mythtv record it in hd or in standard def |
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| [02:21:00] | vividan: | fweeee, HD |
| [02:21:00] | lwizardl: | vividan: cool that was one of the things i was wondering if it will keep it hd or downgrade it to sd |
| [02:22:00] | nuongu1: | mine: http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.pr . . . ct_Id=196807 |
| [02:22:00] | fweeee: | lwizardl: It would record it in whatever def you are receiving it in – my dvb tuner card sees SD and HD as being distinct channels – so when I watch/record tv, I tell it which one to use. |
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| [02:23:00] | lwizardl: | fweeee: ok good thats one worry done |
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| [02:23:00] | fweeee: | lwizardl: I use SD though – I only have a SD tv, and my receiption isnt good enough for HD :( |
| [02:24:00] | lwizardl: | can someone send me an example xml file from what mythtv gras information and store it. i'm trying to see if its like what my current DVR does (my ReplayTV only does SD records) |
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| [02:24:00] | fweeee: | nuongu1: Hmmm, and how many of those buttons have you gotten working right? |
| [02:25:00] | lwizardl: | this is what my current xml files look like (i want to have something similar on my custom DVR setup http://pastebin.com/359248 |
| [02:27:00] | fweeee: | lwizardl: Sorry – I never actually see my xml files – The script just downloads it and does everything it needs to do with it without me ever seeing it. |
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| [02:27:00] | nuongu1: | fweeee: I use it day-to-day right now and it works, but my mythtv setup doesn't work yet, so I haven't tried mapping any of those keys... |
| [02:28:00] | lwizardl: | fweeee: well i use it mainly for the date recorded I'm setting up a Anime/Cartoon/TV episode list site |
| [02:29:00] | fweeee: | nuongu1: Ahhhh. I'm looking for a keyboard exclusivly for mythtv. |
| [02:30:00] | nuongu1: | fweeee: that's the idea for my mediapilot |
| [02:30:00] | fweeee: | I'm using a usb cheapo right now – annoying as hell having to use it from a metre from the tv. |
| [02:30:00] | fweeee: | nuongu1: mediapilot? |
| [02:30:00] | fweeee: | lwizardl: Oh – so its not for use within mythtv? |
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| [02:31:00] | nuongu1: | That keyboard, it's called the MediaPilot |
| [02:31:00] | fweeee: | Oh hang on, yeah, thats the keyboard you just showed me. |
| [02:31:00] | fweeee: | (Just checked the name of it) |
| [02:31:00] | lwizardl: | fweeee: Not exactly. I'm wanting to Have mythtv create the xml file for each recorded show. so I can always tell when "show – episode" aired |
| [02:32:00] | fweeee: | lwizardl: I see. |
| [02:34:00] | lwizardl: | and on the mythtv site it said it uses xmltv and on it link it says what one looks like but i'm not sure if thats the default look of one or not |
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| [02:34:00] | nuongu1: | fweeee: From the pictures, I think I like the MS version better; but the charging in the cradle so the battery won't die feature of the mediapilot is a big plus for me |
| [02:35:00] | spitfire_aus: | Hey guys not sure if anyone is interested but i've written a Howto for making a script that turns the myth xml feed to an rss feed. I use it to monitor my unstable guide data and a few other things. |
| [02:36:00] | pfn: | ink|work you use comma for separators, not semicolons |
| [02:36:00] | lwizardl: | spitfire_aus: you know that might be kinda cool if you could use it to display on a lcd on the from of the machine what shoow is recording, time etc |
| [02:37:00] | spitfire_aus: | yeah |
| [02:37:00] | lwizardl: | from=front |
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| [02:37:00] | spitfire_aus: | It wouldn't be hard to do, but I just drop my in a live bookmark in Firefox so i can keep and eye on my disk usage + guide data |
| [02:38:00] | spitfire_aus: | Here is the link http://www.gtbox.info/gtbox/blog/?p=24 |
| [02:40:00] | lwizardl: | bookmarked |
| [02:40:00] | fweeee: | nuongu1: Yeah – I think I'll deal with the batteries for all the cool stuff that keyboard has. |
| [02:41:00] | spitfire_aus: | Is it worth spinning an email off to mythtv-users? I don't really know where to post this kinda stuff? |
| [02:43:00] | lwizardl: | spitfire_aus: i'm not using Mythtv yet (still deciding one whats best for me) but if i use myth i think i'll use this to keep track of stuff |
| [02:44:00] | lwizardl: | spitfire_aus: does it track all freespace? |
| [02:44:00] | lwizardl: | like multiple hd's |
| [02:45:00] | spitfire_aus: | Ohh its just the one from mythtv |
| [02:46:00] | spitfire_aus: | Not exactly sure what it checks |
| [02:46:00] | spitfire_aus: | Its whatever myth knows as free space |
| [02:46:00] | spitfire_aus: | Like recordable space |
| [02:46:00] | lwizardl: | well I want to have multiple hard drives setup in my dvr |
| [02:47:00] | spitfire_aus: | Are you going to set them up using raid? |
| [02:47:00] | lwizardl: | and it will be a dedicated dvr box so all the hd's will be recordable space |
| [02:47:00] | fweeee: | lwizardl: I think they would have to be set up as raid or a logical volume for myth to use them all (for recording) |
| [02:48:00] | lwizardl: | fweeee: I was thinking about having them as resierfs (sp?) |
| [02:48:00] | lwizardl: | but i'm still in the planing steps |
| [02:49:00] | fweeee: | Hmmm. Not sure what resierfs are – but I'm going to go the LVM way when I expand my machine. |
| [02:49:00] | lwizardl: | first thing I'm going to do is install mythtv frontend on my xbox and see how the setup goes that way and if i like it (yes i know i can't record a show on my xbox) |
| [02:49:00] | lwizardl: | lvm? |
| [02:49:00] | lwizardl: | linux fs |
| [02:50:00] | nuongu1: | lvm == Logical Volume Manager |
| [02:50:00] | fweeee: | lwizardl: Logical volume management. Its a way of making linux treat multiple hdd's as one big one, without any raid stuff. |
| [02:50:00] | fweeee: | I think there is more stuff you can do with it (lvm), but thats what I plan on doing with it. |
| [02:50:00] | nuongu1: | http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/ |
| [02:50:00] | lwizardl: | well this is what i was thinking http://www.namesys.com/ |
| [02:51:00] | nuongu1: | I'm pretty sure you can use reiserfs on lvm systems... |
| [02:51:00] | nuongu1: | I think they're orthogonal |
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| [03:17:00] | vividan: | lvm sets up a kind of artificial disk that any fs can be put on |
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| [03:28:00] | Ediehow: | hi |
| [03:28:00] | Ediehow: | i had a q |
| [03:28:00] | Ediehow: | i found it before, but can't now, some kind of preference for "show live tv in blah blah mode" |
| [03:28:00] | Fosten: | hi, i am trying to setup a pvr-500 card with a gentoo system, but have had no luck. i am using ivtv version 0.3.8, but get video only/no audio on video0 and just a frozen picture on video1. can someone take a look at my dmesg output and offer advice? |
| [03:30:00] | fweeee: | Ediehow: What sort of mode are you talking about? |
| [03:30:00] | fweeee: | like – stretch? |
| [03:30:00] | Ediehow: | "always use browse mode when changing channels in livetv" |
| [03:30:00] | Ediehow: | i think that's what i meant |
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| [03:31:00] | fweeee: | Ahhhh. |
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| [03:31:00] | fweeee: | Yeah – I did that. Buggered if I can remember where I did it though. |
| [03:32:00] | Ediehow: | oh, i just turned it on |
| [03:32:00] | Ediehow: | but how do you enter? |
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| [03:38:00] | Ediehow: | does mythtv have display in window thing/> |
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| [04:27:00] | k-man__: | how can i watch my dvb-t stream? |
| [04:27:00] | k-man__: | i mean |
| [04:27:00] | k-man__: | from the command line? |
| [04:28:00] | k-man__: | is a higher or lower signal to noise ratio better? |
| [04:30:00] | vividan: | higher I'd think |
| [04:32:00] | NightMonkey: | Gah, my mythstreamtv/VLC no workie no more. |
| [04:35:00] | chowells33: | k-man__: snr = good stuff / bad stuff |
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| [04:36:00] | k-man__: | thanks |
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| [04:39:00] | roz: | Have a PVR-250, and have the composite input set up to record. I can see the video, but I cannot make the audio come through at all. I've tried all my sound card inputs. Can anyone offer any help? |
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| [04:51:00] | k-man__: | how can i watch the stream from my dvb card outside of mythtv? |
| [04:51:00] | k-man__: | for testing purposes |
| [04:52:00] | roz: | anyone know how to record composite in, in myth....I've got the video setup but I need he lp with the audio |
| [04:53:00] | vividan: | could someone help me with installing mythtv... I would be happy with debian or ubuntu. So far no package has worked for me, unless it's version .17 |
| [04:53:00] | pfn: | alrighty, time to install a pctv card in my box and see if mythtv works... :) |
| [04:53:00] | pfn: | (for my configuration, that is) |
| [04:54:00] | k-man__: | vividan, what did not work? |
| [04:54:00] | vividan: | I get uninstallable packages |
| [04:55:00] | vividan: | mostly appears to be package dependency bugs |
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| [04:56:00] | vividan: | k-man_, any advice? |
| [04:56:00] | k-man__: | vividan, what packeges were you trying to install? be more specific... what version of debian are you using |
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| [04:57:00] | vividan: | k-man_, in both debian and ubuntu I am trying to install mythtv or mythtv-frontend |
| [04:57:00] | vividan: | k-man_, I have tried in whatever is the latest ubuntu and in debian stable, testing and unstable |
| [04:58:00] | k-man__: | vividan, what distro do you currently have installed? |
| [04:58:00] | vividan: | ubuntu |
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| [04:59:00] | vividan: | I am willing to reinstall, and the target box isn't the one I'm on now |
| [05:00:00] | k-man__: | vividan, well.. which .debs of myth are you trying to install currently? |
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| [05:00:00] | vividan: | k-man_, the ones provided by apt from the hoary release |
| [05:01:00] | k-man__: | vividan, and what error do you get when it tries to install them? |
| [05:01:00] | k-man__: | vividan, was it a clean ubuntu install? |
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| [05:01:00] | vividan: | it *was* a clean ubuntu install, I've tried bringing myself to breezy, but it didn't seem to help much |
| [05:01:00] | vividan: | the hoary release wanted to give me .17 |
| [05:02:00] | vividan: | I am currently running breezy, and what is the copy/paste channel? |
| [05:02:00] | k-man__: | vividan, whats wrong with .17? |
| [05:02:00] | k-man__: | vividan, just make up a channel |
| [05:03:00] | vividan: | mostly, right now my backend is running .18 |
| [05:03:00] | vividan: | also it's really old and more buggy |
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| [05:03:00] | vividan: | using #flood |
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| [05:05:00] | vividan: | I'll paste the error in #flood when you get there |
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| [05:07:00] | k-man__: | do apt-get install mythtv-frontend |
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| [05:09:00] | k-man__: | you have some dependencie issues |
| [05:09:00] | vividan: | :) |
| [05:09:00] | vividan: | yup |
| [05:09:00] | k-man__: | you'll have to work out a way of solving those |
| [05:09:00] | vividan: | I've spent 2+ days on that |
| [05:09:00] | k-man__: | i suggest you ask on #ubuntu |
| [05:09:00] | vividan: | havn't really gotten anywhere |
| [05:09:00] | k-man__: | as i am not familiar with ubuntu |
| [05:09:00] | vividan: | #ubuntu has proven less than helpfull |
| [05:10:00] | vividan: | what are you familiar with? |
| [05:10:00] | k-man__: | debian |
| [05:10:00] | vividan: | awesome, so am I |
| [05:10:00] | vividan: | what tree are you running? |
| [05:11:00] | k-man__: | testing with a bit of unstable stuff |
| [05:11:00] | k-man__: | so your just trying to set up a frontend? |
| [05:11:00] | k-man__: | you have a seperate backend somewhere? |
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| [05:11:00] | vividan: | yeah |
| [05:12:00] | vividan: | I'd like a backend running to help with transcoding, but openmosix would be even better |
| [05:12:00] | vividan: | you gonna be around long enough for me to reinstall debian? |
| [05:13:00] | k-man__: | whats openmosix? |
| [05:13:00] | vividan: | I already have the debian 31r0a CD burned |
| [05:13:00] | k-man__: | i'll be here for a while i think |
| [05:13:00] | vividan: | ok |
| [05:13:00] | k-man__: | i still don't understand |
| [05:13:00] | k-man__: | is your plan only to install the FE on this machine? or fe and be? |
| [05:13:00] | vividan: | http://openmosix.sourceforge.net/ |
| [05:13:00] | vividan: | FE for now |
| [05:13:00] | vividan: | openmosix is a single image cluster solution |
| [05:13:00] | k-man__: | oh |
| [05:13:00] | k-man__: | ok |
| [05:13:00] | vividan: | very powerful |
| [05:15:00] | vividan: | ok, reinstalling with what is I'm pretty sure a stable CD |
| [05:16:00] | vividan: | yeah, stable |
| [05:17:00] | vividan: | what parts of your install is unstable? |
| [05:18:00] | k-man__: | um |
| [05:18:00] | k-man__: | just the stuff i needed to do an apt-get install of xmame 0.99 |
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| [05:18:00] | k-man__: | i'm testing my capture cards at the moment |
| [05:18:00] | k-man__: | so i'll be rebooting a lot |
| [05:19:00] | vividan: | ok |
| [05:19:00] | k-man__: | but I'll be back on here after rebooting |
| [05:19:00] | k-man__: | um... |
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| [05:19:00] | k-man__: | you should install a bare minimum of stable, and then upgrade to testing imho |
| [05:20:00] | vividan: | agreed |
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| [05:21:00] | patch: | can someone help me with mythfilldatabase? it doesnt seem to work for me. |
| [05:22:00] | patch: | I cant retrieve listings from within myth-setup either |
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| [05:23:00] | vividan: | patch, whats the error? |
| [05:24:00] | patch: | Unknown authentication scheme |
| [05:24:00] | patch: | Authorization failed. |
| [05:24:00] | patch: | Grab complete. Actual data from |
| [05:24:00] | patch: | and it just hangs there |
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| [05:25:00] | vividan: | can you tell if the authorization is to the listings server or your database server? |
| [05:25:00] | patch: | vividan : I have no Idea. |
| [05:26:00] | patch: | vividan: I have more error messages it seems can I paste them to you in private message? |
| [05:26:00] | vividan: | have you registered with zaptoit labs? |
| [05:26:00] | patch: | yes, of course. |
| [05:27:00] | patch: | I can log in to that site no problem |
| [05:27:00] | vividan: | ok |
| [05:29:00] | vividan: | I have no idea |
| [05:29:00] | vividan: | can you watch recordings, or do you not hav any? |
| [05:30:00] | Fosten: | hi, i am trying to setup a pvr-500 card with a gentoo system, but have had no luck. i am using ivtv version 0.3.8, but get video only/no audio on video0 and just a frozen picture on video1. can someone take a look at my dmesg output and offer advice? http://rafb.net/paste/results/NzbXo058.html thanks |
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| [05:32:00] | patch: | vividan: No I dont have any channles cause I cant run mythfilldatabase |
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| [05:32:00] | vividan: | myth-setup works? |
| [05:33:00] | patch: | yeah |
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| [05:55:00] | flindet: | hi, does anyone remember the command to get into the advanced settings of mythgame? I need to tell it to use a pair of gamepads. |
| [05:55:00] | flindet: | I vaguely remember an extra screen that wasn't accessed via the normal menus... |
| [05:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | flindet: Using 0.18.x ? |
| [05:57:00] | flindet: | yeah |
| [05:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ok, Can't help ya there. Was just cheking since svn versions don't have those screens anymore :) |
| [05:58:00] | flindet: | oh, really? |
| [05:58:00] | flindet: | How do you set up mythgame in those??? |
| [05:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah,the player config has been made much more generic/flexible now. You can add any emulator you like (no longer tied to specific versions) and have full control over the commandline |
| [05:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/mythgame/mythgame8.jpg |
| [06:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | A fairly recent screenshot |
| [06:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/mythgame/mythgame7.jpg |
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| [06:03:00] | vividan: | k-man_, wb, upgrading to testing |
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| [06:14:00] | vividan: | k-man_, I now have a fresh testing install |
| [06:15:00] | vividan: | what should I put in my sources.list to get mythtv .18 packages? |
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| [06:20:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Has anyone got any recomendations for a powered coax cable splitter? |
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| [06:22:00] | ChrisMacTire: | I'll take that as a no. |
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| [06:25:00] | vividan: | k-man_, you there? |
| [06:25:00] | compubomb: | i did a search on google: mythtv xvid, and i did not get many hits, my question is, is it possible to record directly to xvid after you record from mpeg-2 in an automated fastion ?.. |
| [06:28:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah you have to use nuvexport though |
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| [06:28:00] | Agrajag-: | then you wont be able to play it through the recordings screen, you'd probably want to put it in your videos section or something |
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| [06:38:00] | ** vividan loves nuvexport ** | |
| [06:42:00] | rtsai: | hello |
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| [07:11:00] | k-man_: | vividan, yeah sorta |
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| [07:41:00] | simcop2387: | hmm i'm tempted to get the Composite extension going now so i can have mythtv running on the root window |
| [07:41:00] | simcop2387: | ooo |
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| [07:44:00] | simcop2387: | that seems like a kickass idea, transparent windows on top of tv with the tv on the root window |
| [07:44:00] | simcop2387: | dunno if i can get mythfrontend on the root window though |
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| [07:48:00] | simcop2387: | this could be cool once i decide to work on it, right now i'm making a cool dvd burning system that works straight from my mpeg2 encoder |
| [07:48:00] | simcop2387: | and i'm bored, and ecstatic about my new working encoder card |
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| [09:39:00] | marc_in_lux: | hello |
| [09:39:00] | laga: | hi :) |
| [09:40:00] | marc_in_lux: | hi laga :-) |
| [09:40:00] | marc_in_lux: | works very fine, mythvideo with the internal player |
| [09:40:00] | laga: | ho are you? |
| [09:40:00] | marc_in_lux: | :-) |
| [09:40:00] | laga: | nice :) |
| [09:40:00] | laga: | i really got to try it, too |
| [09:40:00] | marc_in_lux: | I have other trouble, though... |
| [09:40:00] | marc_in_lux: | I have a PVR350 in my frontend |
| [09:40:00] | laga: | do you just put Internal in the field for the player command? |
| [09:40:00] | marc_in_lux: | yes |
| [09:41:00] | laga: | cool, thanks. what's your trouble? |
| [09:41:00] | marc_in_lux: | and I use mencoder to run over the files to make them mpeg2 |
| [09:41:00] | marc_in_lux: | my backend records nicely, and I use my computer as a frontend – all recordings come out great |
| [09:42:00] | marc_in_lux: | but when I use my PVR350 equipped frontend, recordings longer than about one hour are unwatcheable |
| [09:42:00] | marc_in_lux: | after around 20 minutes, the playback stops and it brings me back to the menu |
| [09:42:00] | marc_in_lux: | it just says ' >> Player timeout |
| [09:42:00] | marc_in_lux: | ' |
| [09:42:00] | marc_in_lux: | sometimes, preceded by "ivtv picture start overflow, please inform mythtv-dev@mythtv.org |
| [09:42:00] | marc_in_lux: | " |
| [09:43:00] | marc_in_lux: | shorter recordings work nicely |
| [09:43:00] | laga: | well, it might be a good idea to do that then. remember that you need to sign up first because it's a mailing list |
| [09:44:00] | marc_in_lux: | yeah... thought I wouldn't be the first with that problem |
| [09:44:00] | marc_in_lux: | they must have thought of something when they put that into the code |
| [09:44:00] | laga: | right |
| [09:45:00] | laga: | try searching the ML at www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ |
| [09:47:00] | laga: | i'm afk. |
| [09:49:00] | marc_in_lux: | laga, didn't bring me that far... only a thread from late 2004 which refers to an old cvs checkout. |
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| [09:51:00] | otwin: | marc_in_lux: are you in luxembourg? |
| [09:51:00] | marc_in_lux: | otwin, yes |
| [09:51:00] | otwin: | salut nooper! |
| [09:51:00] | marc_in_lux: | :-) |
| [09:51:00] | marc_in_lux: | whereabout? |
| [09:51:00] | otwin: | walferdange |
| [09:51:00] | marc_in_lux: | leudelange |
| [09:52:00] | marc_in_lux: | where do you get your xmltv data? |
| [09:52:00] | otwin: | tv_grab_de_prisma & tv_grab_de and then i´m merging the two into one listings.xml |
| [09:52:00] | otwin: | i mean tv_grab_fr |
| [09:53:00] | marc_in_lux: | never heard of tv_grab_de_prisma |
| [09:53:00] | otwin: | http://hamstaman.de/myth_epg.html |
| [09:54:00] | otwin: | how do you get your listings? |
| [09:54:00] | marc_in_lux: | thnks |
| [09:54:00] | marc_in_lux: | tv_grab_de_tvtoday |
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| [09:59:00] | marc_in_lux: | how do you merge, otwin ? |
| [09:59:00] | otwin: | with tv_cat |
| [09:59:00] | otwin: | comes with xmltv |
| [10:00:00] | marc_in_lux: | aha |
| [10:00:00] | marc_in_lux: | I should reread all that documentation... |
| [10:00:00] | marc_in_lux: | been a long time |
| [10:01:00] | otwin: | i have a bash script that i found somewhere and modefied to do all that for me, wait... |
| [10:04:00] | syle2: | otwin you a chink? |
| [10:04:00] | syle2: | that url not in english |
| [10:05:00] | otwin: | so what? what´s a chink? |
| [10:07:00] | marc_in_lux: | otwin, chink is a slang term for chinese. |
| [10:08:00] | otwin: | hmmm – how funny is that... |
| [10:08:00] | marc_in_lux: | rather less funny... |
| [10:22:00] | laga: | re |
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| [10:23:00] | laga: | it's probably a language called 'german' |
| [10:23:00] | laga: | otwin: what does tv_cat do for me? |
| [10:26:00] | marc_in_lux: | laga, if you need multiple grabbers to cover the channels you can receive, you can bring them together into one xmltv file |
| [10:27:00] | marc_in_lux: | might be more or less important, depending on where you are geographically |
| [10:27:00] | laga: | oh, ok. i thought it would also work to get better guide data for one channel form different sources. |
| [10:27:00] | laga: | marc_in_lux: de_tvtoday works fine for me ;) |
| [10:27:00] | marc_in_lux: | ok :-) |
| [10:27:00] | marc_in_lux: | I use it too, but missing the french/belgian stuff |
| [10:27:00] | laga: | why don't you use nxtvepg anymore? |
| [10:28:00] | marc_in_lux: | originally because I moved to a place where Kabel1 isn't provided anymore |
| [10:28:00] | marc_in_lux: | and the available nexview feed from vox wasn't really good. |
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| [10:29:00] | marc_in_lux: | i kept it running, though, for somebody else. Till some weeks ago, that computer died... |
| [10:32:00] | laga: | you get a nextview feed from vox? nice, they don't do that in germany. |
| [10:32:00] | marc_in_lux: | I think it was vox... |
| [10:32:00] | marc_in_lux: | or was it rtl2? |
| [10:32:00] | laga: | rtl2, yep |
| [10:32:00] | marc_in_lux: | anyway – no other feed here than in Germany |
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| [10:35:00] | prodigy7: | good morning |
| [10:37:00] | prodigy7: | i've one question: i added an dvb-t card to my running myth-system with an pvr350 ... now, i configured it so far, dvbscan works ... but when i want watch via dvb-t, my mythbackend log will filled with lines such this: |
| [10:37:00] | prodigy7: | SIParser: Unknown descriptor |
| [10:38:00] | prodigy7: | some ideas what this could be? |
| [10:39:00] | otwin: | laga: sorry, missed your question :-) |
| [10:39:00] | laga: | otwin: don't worry, marc_in_lux took care of it ;) |
| [10:40:00] | otwin: | marc_in_lux: did manage to get nxtvepg working with a pvr-x50? |
| [10:40:00] | marc_in_lux: | no, I used an old BT878 card lying around... |
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| [10:41:00] | otwin: | I somewhat miss videotext... it doesn´t seem to work with pvr´s AND mythtv |
| [10:44:00] | laga: | umm. it works fine for me. |
| [10:44:00] | laga: | otwin: well, for use within mythtv, i had to use a patch. i'm afraid it only works with development version of mythtv from svn |
| [10:46:00] | otwin: | laga: ah! i see – i´m think i´m not ready for svn... i´m happy my backend runs fine now. but that is good news – so it will be released sooner or later. |
| [10:46:00] | Chutt: | that patch needs a bit more work, and i haven't seen them doing anything with it lately |
| [10:46:00] | laga: | otwin: yep. |
| [10:47:00] | laga: | Chutt: all i know is that beebof's patch works fine for me with a pvr 250 in pal country :) |
| [10:47:00] | otwin: | do they work on dual-channel sound? |
| [10:47:00] | Chutt: | right – it works, it just needs cleaned up |
| [10:47:00] | otwin: | so you can choose between two languages on one channel? |
| [10:48:00] | laga: | otwin: i can choose between to sound channels just fine on my dvb recordings |
| [10:49:00] | otwin: | dvb? i´m thinking of pvr-x50´s. |
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| [10:50:00] | laga: | otwin: i don't know how such a thing is implemented in ivtv/analog tv |
| [10:51:00] | thechris: | I'm having issues again with my pvr 500mce |
| [10:51:00] | otwin: | laga: sorry, i thought that patch was for ivtv not mythtv... |
| [10:51:00] | laga: | otwin: the patch i was talking about (by beebof) is for mythtv. |
| [10:51:00] | thechris: | i'm getting a mostly black screen with thin color bars |
| [10:52:00] | thechris: | i cannot change tuner or channel |
| [10:52:00] | otwin: | laga: seems obvious – now ;-) |
| [10:53:00] | thechris: | i take it there are no ivtv users here. |
| [10:53:00] | anxt: | i use ivtv |
| [10:53:00] | marc_in_lux: | thechris, yes, there are |
| [10:54:00] | anxt: | but i wasn't looking at my irc screen |
| [10:54:00] | marc_in_lux: | but no PVR500 for me... |
| [10:54:00] | anxt: | i got a pvr-500 |
| [10:54:00] | anxt: | mce |
| [10:54:00] | thechris: | any ideas as to why i can't change channels or tuners |
| [10:54:00] | anxt: | but atm no audio on it |
| [10:54:00] | anxt: | change tuners? |
| [10:55:00] | anxt: | are you using ptune? |
| [10:55:00] | thechris: | pretty much i can only press esc and quit while watching tv |
| [10:55:00] | thechris: | ptune gives no errors but also does not work |
| [10:55:00] | thechris: | mythtv doesn't change channel or claim to change channel |
| [10:56:00] | anxt: | well if you can't change channels using ptune, forget about myth |
| [10:56:00] | thechris: | i've never had luck with ptune, even on setups where myth worked |
| [10:56:00] | anxt: | what kind of card / driver relases |
| [10:57:00] | thechris: | pvr500, 0.3.8 ivtv |
| [10:57:00] | anxt: | thechris, are the errors dependent perl modules? |
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| [10:57:00] | chris: | is there cvs access to mythtv? svn isn't working for me under gentoo. |
| [10:57:00] | thechris: | i get no errors, but it also doesn't work |
| [10:58:00] | laga: | chris: fix it then. the CVS server only has a very old version |
| [10:58:00] | Chutt: | the cvs server isn't running |
| [10:58:00] | thechris: | how do i test using ptune.pl? |
| [11:01:00] | thechris: | i do get an interesting error in mplayer |
| [11:01:00] | thechris: | The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec. |
| [11:02:00] | chris: | thechris: you're using ivtv yeath? |
| [11:02:00] | thechris: | yep |
| [11:03:00] | chris: | are you loading the ivtv module in your /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6? |
| [11:03:00] | thechris: | yeah |
| [11:03:00] | chris: | usually ptune 33 changes video on tuner0 to tv channel 33. |
| [11:03:00] | chris: | did you setup your /etc/modules.d/ivtv? |
| [11:03:00] | thechris: | yes |
| [11:04:00] | chris: | cat you " cat /dev/video0 > test.mpeg" ? |
| [11:04:00] | thechris: | yes |
| [11:04:00] | chris: | and then mplayer test.mpeg |
| [11:04:00] | thechris: | but i get only a constant image of bars |
| [11:04:00] | chris: | do you have i2c built into your kernel? |
| [11:04:00] | thechris: | not test bars either |
| [11:04:00] | thechris: | i2c is a module and was loaded by ivtv |
| [11:05:00] | thechris: | i2c_algo_bit |
| [11:05:00] | chris: | hmm, I use a hauppauge 500 and build it into ther kernel. |
| [11:05:00] | chris: | you should post your dmesg output |
| [11:05:00] | chris: | dmest > ivtv.init |
| [11:05:00] | chris: | dmesg > ivtv.init |
| [11:06:00] | thechris: | try http://phaselock.homelinux.net/ivtv.txt |
| [11:06:00] | thechris: | not sure if my campus blocks http |
| [11:07:00] | chris: | blocked for me. |
| [11:07:00] | chris: | try pastebin |
| [11:07:00] | anxt: | kick ass |
| [11:07:00] | anxt: | i got my 250 and 500 all working |
| [11:07:00] | anxt: | 3 tuners |
| [11:07:00] | chris: | anxt excellent |
| [11:07:00] | chris: | ! |
| [11:07:00] | thechris: | ok, i see an error in dmesg now |
| [11:08:00] | thechris: | ivtv: Failed to load module tuner |
| [11:08:00] | anxt: | are you THE chris? |
| [11:08:00] | chris: | I'm Chris Camisa |
| [11:08:00] | anxt: | if so thanks |
| [11:08:00] | thechris: | its a joke. there are a lot of chris's in my area |
| [11:08:00] | anxt: | well there is a ck |
| [11:08:00] | anxt: | not con kolivas :) |
| [11:08:00] | thechris: | i was thinking con kolivas |
| [11:09:00] | anxt: | wow |
| [11:09:00] | anxt: | praise the Lord, i should go smoke some cogar |
| [11:09:00] | anxt: | cigar |
| [11:09:00] | thechris: | what is "tuner" |
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| [11:09:00] | thechris: | i get – failed to load module "tuner" |
| [11:09:00] | chris: | tuner is the module which shows tv channels on your monitor |
| [11:09:00] | anxt: | and the cable guy came and added a drop amp so my tv is clear and my internet works :) |
| [11:10:00] | thechris: | where do i get "tuner"? |
| [11:10:00] | anxt: | in v4l |
| [11:10:00] | chris: | usually you buy a tuner and build the driver |
| [11:10:00] | anxt: | v4l2 |
| [11:10:00] | thechris: | is it in the kernel config then? |
| [11:10:00] | anxt: | you need bt8x8 support i think |
| [11:10:00] | anxt: | lemme grep my .config |
| [11:10:00] | chris: | anxt: did you use the patch to ivtv3.7i with your 500? |
| [11:10:00] | chris: | it made much better video for me. |
| [11:10:00] | anxt: | chris, plain old 0.3.8 |
| [11:11:00] | thechris: | i hope that sound issue doens't come back from my last setup |
| [11:11:00] | chris: | anxt: I had capture problems with my 500's video quality... mostly noticed if I tried to capture the weather channel, and actually read the cities they show on the US map with my tuner.. |
| [11:11:00] | thechris: | oh, where is msp4300 or whatever its called? |
| [11:11:00] | thechris: | i need to specifically not enable it |
| [11:11:00] | chris: | usually the driver showed the letters on the map as flashing and incorrect. |
| [11:11:00] | thechris: | but its not listed |
| [11:12:00] | chris: | http://www.ivtv.tv/ Is where I get my drivers |
| [11:12:00] | anxt: | freaking stellar |
| [11:12:00] | anxt: | i wish i had a tape drive |
| [11:13:00] | chris: | anxt do they make mass media tape drives now? >2TB? |
| [11:13:00] | anxt: | now only get the damn 16x9 out of the shop and the DVI working :) |
| [11:13:00] | anxt: | chirs: probably. 200gb is goot for me |
| [11:13:00] | chris: | anxt: i've been hoping for FB myth... |
| [11:13:00] | anxt: | even 50 gb tabe would be ok |
| [11:14:00] | anxt: | framebuffer myth? |
| [11:14:00] | thechris: | yeah, i noticed gentoo has an option for FB mythtv, but i don't see how to use it |
| [11:14:00] | chris: | anything is better than $6 dvd-r DL |
| [11:14:00] | chris: | <-------- is done with gentoo mythtv ebuild |
| [11:14:00] | chris: | I'm pulling in gentoo apache2 so that I can use svn to get the "cvs' mythtv |
| [11:14:00] | anxt: | xv should be much better than fb though |
| [11:14:00] | laga: | chris: you don't need apache 2 to use svn. |
| [11:15:00] | chris: | anxt: i'm in xv |
| [11:15:00] | anxt: | is it for osd you are thinging? |
| [11:15:00] | chris: | laga: i'm ineffecient |
| [11:15:00] | chris: | how do I use apache 1.3.33 with gentoo and svn together? |
| [11:15:00] | laga: | chris: your use flags are, yep |
| [11:15:00] | sandos: | chris: apache2 is _only_ needed if you want to setup a svn _server_ |
| [11:16:00] | sandos: | for client-side stuff apache2 is not used |
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| [11:16:00] | anxt: | maybe you can USE="-server" emerge svn? |
| [11:16:00] | laga: | maybe he should take a look at emerge -pv svn |
| [11:16:00] | laga: | or, well, just read the FM. |
| [11:16:00] | anxt: | no shit |
| [11:16:00] | chris: | I was using apache-1.3.33-r5 from gentoo.. .but svn was giving me varying errors... version 1.23 of sv gave me a couldn't covert to UTF8 err.r and version 1.1 was giving me another error about initializing svn_ra... I'm kinda at a loss with apache 1.3.33 |
| [11:17:00] | anxt: | wow i am so excited i put my pants on |
| [11:17:00] | anxt: | what a paradox |
| [11:17:00] | anxt: | no i am goona go smoke some cigar |
| [11:17:00] | ruby_: | umm guys, is there an option for changing the menu languge in mythTV? i was looking for info about MythTV menu russian/hebrew and found nothing... |
| [11:17:00] | thechris: | what is svn? |
| [11:17:00] | chris: | anxt: me too |
| [11:17:00] | laga: | thechris: www.subversion.org |
| [11:17:00] | chris: | thechris: svn is "SubVersion (a compelling replacement for CVS)" |
| [11:17:00] | thechris: | ah |
| [11:18:00] | chris: | or goto svn.mythtv.org |
| [11:18:00] | chris: | laga are you a gentoo user with svn? |
| [11:18:00] | laga: | chris: i have it installed. |
| [11:18:00] | chris: | I've been wanting svn mythtv for a while, but I've had trouble. |
| [11:18:00] | laga: | chris: there are ebuilds out there. |
| [11:19:00] | chris: | Well, I use ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86" and then I pick the ~x86 packages that work for me. |
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| [11:20:00] | chris: | laga: I also have my kernel set to use the UTF8 locale and my locale_all set to eng.utf8... I've just had some trouble getting it. :( |
| [11:20:00] | thechris: | not using JFS are you?> |
| [11:20:00] | chris: | I use mke2fs -j for my partitions... so they're ext2/3 |
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| [11:21:00] | thechris: | brb |
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| [11:29:00] | thechris: | hmm still no video |
| [11:29:00] | thechris: | screen goes blue, then changes to vertical bars |
| [11:29:00] | chris: | does your dmesg show the ivtv init as okay or no? |
| [11:30:00] | thechris: | it complains about ivtv: Failed to load module wm8775 |
| [11:30:00] | thechris: | i think that is the radio adaptor though |
| [11:31:00] | chris: | well, for me I have Video for Linux built into the kernel... and that's it... and then I have I2C built into the kernel... and ALGOBIT is also built in, but you must also set the EEPROM I2C support only as a module. |
| [11:31:00] | thechris: | yeah, that gets loaded fine |
| [11:32:00] | chris: | what card are you using again? |
| [11:33:00] | anxt: | reboot |
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| [11:34:00] | chris: | not only reboot, but also pull the AC cable and push your power button to juice all the capacitors before you reboot too |
| [11:34:00] | thechris: | pvr500mce |
| [11:34:00] | chris: | anxt has a working configuration for the 500 |
| [11:34:00] | chris: | mine works well too |
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| [11:35:00] | thechris: | i'm trying to find this wm8775 now |
| [11:35:00] | chris: | you have a different problem |
| [11:35:00] | thechris: | could it be video card related? |
| [11:35:00] | chris: | do you have char-major-81–0,1 in your /etc/modules.d/ivtv |
| [11:36:00] | chris: | and do you hav options ivtv ivtv_std=0 tuner=57,57 tda9887=0,0 ivtv_debug=1 in your /etc/modules.d/ivtv? |
| [11:36:00] | thechris: | alias char-major-81–0 ivtv |
| [11:36:00] | chris: | and you will also need to have tda9887 before ivtv in your /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 |
| [11:37:00] | chris: | you need to have two entries. alias char-major-81–0 and alias char-major-81–1 in your config. |
| [11:37:00] | thechris: | hmm, ok, i missed that |
| [11:38:00] | chris: | hmm that's not good |
| [11:38:00] | chris: | are you on gentoo? |
| [11:38:00] | thechris: | yes |
| [11:38:00] | chris: | you have an /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 file which specifiy's which modules are loaded at boottime, do you see it? |
| [11:39:00] | thechris: | yeah |
| [11:39:00] | thechris: | ivtv is in that |
| [11:39:00] | chris: | please put tda9887 before ivtv |
| [11:40:00] | thechris: | ok |
| [11:40:00] | chris: | and did you not only compile the ivtv /drivers directory, but also compile the /utils directory? |
| [11:40:00] | thechris: | i did mine via ebuild overlay |
| [11:40:00] | chris: | I have 4 lines in my /etc/modules.d/ivtv, what do you do in yours? |
| [11:41:00] | thechris: | and thus the word is gone |
| [11:41:00] | thechris: | i have 4 lines |
| [11:41:00] | thechris: | 1 for videodev, 2 for ivtv, 1 for options |
| [11:41:00] | chris: | you should use the drivers from http://www.ivtv.tv/ for the 500mce |
| [11:41:00] | chris: | emerge unmerge the damn ivtv evuild |
| [11:41:00] | thechris: | i did |
| [11:41:00] | thechris: | err |
| [11:41:00] | chris: | using the sources from that website is the plan of attack |
| [11:43:00] | thechris: | ok, so 0.3.7h is the latest stable version |
| [11:43:00] | thechris: | it looks like 0.3.8 is listed |
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| [11:43:00] | chris: | 0.3.7i works great for me with the patch for the 500mce |
| [11:43:00] | chris: | but antx said the 3.8 woks good too |
| [11:44:00] | thechris: | i'm using the file from that site |
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| [11:46:00] | chris: | which firmware are you using? |
| [11:46:00] | thechris: | one from cd |
| [11:46:00] | chris: | me too |
| [11:47:00] | chris: | post your dmesg > ivtv.init after a reboot with the tda9887 before ivtv in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 |
| [11:48:00] | thechris: | ok. reboot time |
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| [11:53:00] | thechris: | still no luck |
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| [11:53:00] | chris: | what does dmesg > myivtv.init say? |
| [11:54:00] | thechris: | can i paste the results here? |
| [11:54:00] | chris: | no |
| [11:54:00] | chris: | you'll get kicked |
| [11:54:00] | thechris: | yeah |
| [11:55:00] | chris: | what erros do you see? |
| [11:55:00] | thechris: | ivtv: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32 |
| [11:55:00] | thechris: | ivtv: Failed to load module wm8775 |
| [11:55:00] | thechris: | ivtv warning: Encoder Firmware can be buggy, use version 0x02040011!!!! |
| [11:55:00] | thechris: | ivtv warning: i2c client addr: 0x1b not found for command 0x40047767! |
| [11:55:00] | chris: | you can set that latency timer in your bios |
| [11:55:00] | chris: | that's the pci latency timer |
| [11:56:00] | chris: | set it to 64 insetad of 32 |
| [11:56:00] | chris: | that's more sane |
| [11:56:00] | thechris: | it says that it sets it to 64 |
| [11:57:00] | chris: | did you build EEPROM module support into the I2C kernel? |
| [11:57:00] | thechris: | as a module |
| [11:57:00] | chris: | hmm fucked up |
| [11:58:00] | chris: | does the dmesg say it finds the first tuner? |
| [11:58:00] | thechris: | finds both tuners |
| [11:58:00] | thechris: | correctly |
| [11:58:00] | thechris: | knows that its a pvr500 from two 150 sections |
| [11:59:00] | chris: | I don't even see a wm8775 in my dmesg |
| [11:59:00] | chris: | i2c attach to card #1 ok [client=wm8775[50], addr=1b] |
| [11:59:00] | chris: | i see it now |
| [12:00:00] | thechris: | where is it in menuconfig? |
| [12:00:00] | thechris: | i can't seem to find it |
| [12:01:00] | chris: | device drivers -> i2c support -> other i2c chip support -> eeprom (M) |
| [12:03:00] | thechris: | eeprom reader? |
| [12:03:00] | chris: | do you see it? |
| [12:03:00] | chris: | that's it |
| [12:03:00] | thechris: | i see eeprom reader |
| [12:03:00] | thechris: | but not wm8775 |
| [12:03:00] | chris: | right |
| [12:03:00] | chris: | eeprom reader support reading the wm8775 |
| [12:04:00] | thechris: | for CONFIG_SENSORS_EEPROM |
| [12:04:00] | chris: | dunno |
| [12:04:00] | chris: | just put the M next to EEPROM READER |
| [12:04:00] | thechris: | its already ther |
| [12:05:00] | chris: | there is something beyond what is immediately evident wrong with your setup |
| [12:05:00] | chris: | what do you think it is? |
| [12:05:00] | Gumby: | anyone know if there are any debian packages that are running a matching backend to version 17? |
| [12:05:00] | chris: | Gumby: i don't think people run version 17 |
| [12:06:00] | Gumby: | my mandrake box has the same package version, but I am being told that my backend is running v15 and my frontend is v17 |
| [12:06:00] | laga: | version 17? protocol version? |
| [12:06:00] | Gumby: | yes |
| [12:06:00] | Gumby: | sorry |
| [12:06:00] | Gumby: | 2005-09–10 03:02:12.059 Protocol version mismatch (frontend=17,backend=15) |
| [12:06:00] | laga: | Gumby: you could build your own packages. |
| [12:06:00] | Gumby: | I have the latest pacakges from http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu |
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| [12:12:00] | thechris: | hmm. i have no idea what to do now. |
| [12:12:00] | thechris: | maybe i'll try moving the card to a new pci slot |
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| [12:14:00] | laga: | Gumby: http://mythtv.hamstaman.de/files/svn/ <- you could try those packages. dunno if they'll work with your debian |
| [12:14:00] | Gumby: | laga: thx, I might give that a shot |
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| [12:30:00] | thechris: | hmm, sorta good news |
| [12:30:00] | thechris: | my problem was related to the video card |
| [12:31:00] | thechris: | i can now get really bad reception of channel 18, no sound, no color. |
| [12:31:00] | thechris: | also can't change channels |
| [12:32:00] | thechris: | oh, and i can't kill the xserver without rebooting... |
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| [14:41:00] | Krazylegz: | *knock* *knock* |
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| [15:33:00] | Sneaker__: | bit offtopic but what is the file where you can declare hosts that can connect to mysql server? |
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| [15:40:00] | Krazylegz: | It's in the MySQL database. |
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| [15:52:00] | jono: | hi all |
| [15:53:00] | jono: | I am looking to have the quality of the video coming out of my mythtv box as good as the kind of quality that comes out of a normal DVD player – does this mean I should use an RGB out? |
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| [15:53:00] | PatrickDK: | what are you playing? |
| [15:53:00] | sandos: | I think either that or a matrix card with s-video? |
| [15:53:00] | PatrickDK: | dvd? tv? |
| [15:53:00] | sandos: | matrox, sorry |
| [15:54:00] | jono: | PatrickDK, I want to output tv and dvd |
| [15:55:00] | PatrickDK: | I would only do the tests with a dvd |
| [15:55:00] | jono: | I basically want no loss in quality from my sky box or dvds when it goes out to the TV |
| [15:55:00] | jono: | PatrickDK, yeah |
| [15:55:00] | jono: | I basically dont want my tv out to impact the quality of the output |
| [15:55:00] | jono: | do you recommend I use one of the matrox cards with RGB out? |
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| [15:56:00] | PatrickDK: | only if your tv has rgb input |
| [15:56:00] | PatrickDK: | I would recommend a tv with dvi or hdmi input, for simplicity |
| [15:56:00] | jono: | PatrickDK, can I go from rgb to scart? |
| [15:56:00] | PatrickDK: | dunno, I don't do scart |
| [15:57:00] | PatrickDK: | alot of cards are coming out with component output too |
| [15:57:00] | jono: | what is component output? |
| [15:58:00] | PatrickDK: | Y-Pr-Pb |
| [15:58:00] | jono: | eh? |
| [15:58:00] | jono: | sorry I am quite new at all this |
| [15:58:00] | PatrickDK: | are you in the us? |
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| [16:00:00] | jono: | no in the uk |
| [16:00:00] | PatrickDK: | ah |
| [16:00:00] | jono: | is it possible to use mythtv with a matrox card for graphics and tv-out but use a pvr-350 for encoding/decoding? |
| [16:01:00] | PatrickDK: | I have no idea what that is suppost to mean |
| [16:01:00] | Krazylegz: | Yes. |
| [16:01:00] | PatrickDK: | pvr350 will ecode and decode |
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| [16:01:00] | PatrickDK: | matrix will output |
| [16:02:00] | PatrickDK: | but you can't mix the two outputs onto one screen |
| [16:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can only use a 350's decoder with it's tvout |
| [16:02:00] | PatrickDK: | you will use two different tv's |
| [16:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can't decode back into memory to be sent out via another device |
| [16:02:00] | jono: | so I cant decode from the pvr and then send the output to the matrix card? |
| [16:02:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, if you could the pci bandwidth would be horrible |
| [16:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | jono: Correct |
| [16:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | Any decoding done with the 350 is ONLY sent out it's TV out port |
| [16:03:00] | jono: | is there a card with rgb and dvi outputs with a build in encoder/decoder? |
| [16:03:00] | whyz: | is it possible to adjust the gui size relative to the output? as it is now, i can't even see most of the menus because they're in the side of the tv |
| [16:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | no commericial ones I know of |
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| [16:03:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, there is one |
| [16:03:00] | PatrickDK: | I don' |
| [16:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | whyz: you can control the menus size and placement via the mythfrontend setup menus |
| [16:03:00] | PatrickDK: | t think it's being sold yet though |
| [16:04:00] | PatrickDK: | atleast I haven't been able to locate it when I was looking |
| [16:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | None that have drivers for linux that are not proprietary and unsupported but all players I've heard of :) |
| [16:04:00] | jono: | hmmm |
| [16:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | There is a card from Sigma designs em86xx chipset (decoder, not an encoder) |
| [16:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | Besides if you are capturing via the 350 you are already getting some loss since it's an analog capture |
| [16:05:00] | jono: | is there an encoder/decoder card that I could use to then output via my matrox card? |
| [16:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | No |
| [16:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well |
| [16:05:00] | PatrickDK: | not one supported by mythtv |
| [16:05:00] | jono: | oh |
| [16:05:00] | PatrickDK: | but there are cards that can |
| [16:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | the 250's handle capture/encoding which you can playback via software through the matrox |
| [16:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | is hardware decoding a must ? |
| [16:06:00] | jono: | I just want optimal performance but I don't want a lower quality of output |
| [16:06:00] | ** jono wants a DVD to look like a DVD :) ** | |
| [16:07:00] | ** PatrickDK just wants hdtv dvd's :) ** | |
| [16:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | jono: Every analog step will add some loss |
| [16:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | So avoid analog if at all possible |
| [16:08:00] | Tommck: | jono – rip ISO files and buy lots of hard drives |
| [16:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | But honestly, unless you have real shitty tv out the loss is not that much |
| [16:09:00] | jono: | I have a thompson widescreen tv |
| [16:09:00] | jono: | is s-video good quality? |
| [16:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | better than composite, and is the best that you can get with the average tv |
| [16:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | but component/rgb/scart are better |
| [16:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | dvi is about the best |
| [16:11:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, I wish I could get my svideo on my 350 looking good |
| [16:11:00] | PatrickDK: | it looks like crap, but the composite looks excelent |
| [16:11:00] | jono: | so scart is quality right? |
| [16:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | I used one for a couple days. Looked perfect. But it wasn't much better than the svideo out of my video card so I gave it back. Wasn't worth the money for me |
| [16:11:00] | jono: | oh hang on, the pvr-350 has scart output in europe |
| [16:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | the Media MVP so far has been the best of the stuff I've compared |
| [16:13:00] | jono: | so composite is the best output, right? |
| [16:14:00] | PatrickDK: | worst |
| [16:14:00] | laga: | no, s-vhs |
| [16:14:00] | laga: | well, DVI is the best imho ;) |
| [16:14:00] | jono: | is composite better than scart? |
| [16:14:00] | Tommck: | composite is crap |
| [16:14:00] | PatrickDK: | no |
| [16:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | Analog cable < composite < svideo < scart < component/rgb < dvi |
| [16:14:00] | Tommck: | jono – don't confuse composite with component |
| [16:14:00] | jono: | oh |
| [16:14:00] | jono: | I am confusing it :P |
| [16:15:00] | jono: | the pvr-350 has: Video outputs: S-Video and composite. SCART in Europe |
| [16:15:00] | jono: | if I output a DVD with those outputs, will it look as good as the picture I get with my dvd player plugged into my tv with a scart lead? |
| [16:15:00] | laga: | SCARt is imho just an umm 'container' for the various formats |
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| [16:16:00] | jono: | so do you think picture would be the same? |
| [16:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | part of that will depend on the software player |
| [16:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | and any deinterlace/interlace issues and sync problems |
| [16:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | but it should look pretty good |
| [16:17:00] | jono: | I will be using mythtv for all this |
| [16:17:00] | ** jono is just planning what to buy for his box ** | |
| [16:18:00] | jono: | I just dont want to take a hit in quality on my pciture |
| [16:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | the mythtv dvd player is not complete, so you will want to use xine/mplayer for dvd's |
| [16:19:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: does it menus yet? |
| [16:19:00] | jono: | right |
| [16:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | There have been no patches to that part in a while, so no |
| [16:19:00] | jono: | but will the quality be the same as my dvd player? |
| [16:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | how many ways can I say no ? |
| [16:19:00] | jono: | oh, ok |
| [16:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | It can be CLOSE, and if you have a really crappy player it MIGHT better |
| [16:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | but odds are it will not be identical |
| [16:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | But it could be enough so that you can't tell the difference |
| [16:20:00] | jono: | I just want a nice crisp picture |
| [16:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | which like I said will depend on all of the factors I have listed previously |
| [16:20:00] | jono: | if I plugged my pvr-350 from the svideo to svideo socket on my tv, would that be better than scart? |
| [16:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | I give up |
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| [16:21:00] | PatrickDK: | hehe |
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| [16:21:00] | jono: | sorry, I am just trying to guage the difference between the different hardware connectors? |
| [16:22:00] | jono: | I understand there are software issues |
| [16:22:00] | PatrickDK: | try them all yourself |
| [16:22:00] | jono: | but I dont get the difference between composite, component, s-video, scart etc |
| [16:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | and what part of this is confusing ? " <GreyFoxx> Analog cable < composite < svideo < scart < component/rgb < dvi" |
| [16:22:00] | PatrickDK: | we have explained that 3 times now |
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| [16:22:00] | jono: | oh sorry, didnt see that :( |
| [16:23:00] | Krazylegz: | GreyFoxx: So, * < dvi ? |
| [16:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [16:23:00] | Krazylegz: | Wait, I don't understand......:-) |
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| [16:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | fsck off :) |
| [16:23:00] | jono: | GreyFoxx, sorry :( |
| [16:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | jono: It's alright. I'm just not a patient guy this mornin |
| [16:25:00] | jono: | GreyFoxx, hey, no probs! you are being a great help to me, sorry if I am being a little dumb today hehe |
| [16:25:00] | ** laga hands GreyFoxx some coffee ** | |
| [16:25:00] | jono: | its a shame there is no card with rgb out, and an encoder/decoder |
| [16:26:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, the decoder is a mixed blessing. |
| [16:26:00] | Krazylegz: | At least, I think it is. |
| [16:26:00] | PatrickDK: | decoder you have X quality |
| [16:26:00] | jono: | if scart is a container for a type of video, I wonder which type of type the pvr-350 uses for its scart output |
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| [16:26:00] | PatrickDK: | with software you can add filters and stuff tothe output |
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| [16:29:00] | jono: | any know of a mythtv supported pci card for recieving sky tv? |
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| [16:31:00] | sandos: | jono: my guess is s-video or composite |
| [16:32:00] | sandos: | thats the "regular" for tv-outs to use |
| [16:32:00] | sandos: | RGB is more special |
| [16:32:00] | sandos: | actually, s-video and composite, not "or" |
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| [16:32:00] | jono: | hmmm |
| [16:33:00] | jono: | would you suspect that a dvd player uses s-video and composite for its scart too, or is it difficult to tell? |
| [16:34:00] | sandos: | I have no idea. afaik, RGB is what what in scart originally and s-video is a later add-on |
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| [16:34:00] | jono: | ok |
| [16:34:00] | jono: | jees, this is quite confusing |
| [16:34:00] | jono: | heh |
| [16:34:00] | sandos: | but I dont know what is common for DVD-players to support. I have no ida what mine uses =) |
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| [16:34:00] | jono: | its so difficult to judge what the quality will be like |
| [16:34:00] | jono: | there are so many variables it seems |
| [16:35:00] | jono: | right I best run |
| [16:36:00] | jono: | thanks for all your help guys :) |
| [16:36:00] | jono: | GreyFoxx, thanks too, sorry to be a bit dumb :) |
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| [16:58:00] | flindet: | hi, does anyone remember the command in 18.1 to get into the advanced settings of mythgame? I need to tell it to use a pair of gamepads. |
| [16:58:00] | flindet: | I vaguely remember an extra screen that wasn't accessed via the normal menus... |
| [17:00:00] | Sneaker__: | can anyone tell me why my dtv_multiplex table is empty? |
| [17:00:00] | Sneaker__: | and how can I necessary data in there? |
| [17:00:00] | Sneaker__: | get |
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| [17:07:00] | Dibblah: | Sneaker__: Those tables should be blank unless you're on DTV. |
| [17:07:00] | Dibblah: | And you fill them with "Scan for channels" in mythtv-setup, generally. |
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| [17:08:00] | Sneaker__: | ok |
| [17:09:00] | Sneaker__: | what is DTV anyway?-) |
| [17:09:00] | Dibblah: | DVB, ATSC, etc... |
| [17:09:00] | Sneaker__: | I'am using dvb-t |
| [17:09:00] | Sneaker__: | So it is DTV? |
| [17:09:00] | Dibblah: | So do a "Scan for channels" in mythtv-setup, then ;) |
| [17:10:00] | Sneaker__: | damn, I thought I did it already |
| [17:10:00] | Sneaker__: | :) |
| [17:10:00] | Sneaker__: | must do it again then ) |
| [17:11:00] | Dibblah: | Err... Unless that's one of those tables that the "Let's leave them in just-in-case someone stored their porn collection in there" crowd asked to be left in... |
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| [17:11:00] | deepdelver: | hey people |
| [17:11:00] | deepdelver: | i've got a problem |
| [17:12:00] | deepdelver: | [root@localhost .freevo]# mythtv-setup |
| [17:12:00] | deepdelver: | mythtv-setup: error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.18.1.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| [17:12:00] | Dibblah: | ... And by extension, so do we :) |
| [17:12:00] | deepdelver: | :P |
| [17:12:00] | deepdelver: | anyone know what to do with it? |
| [17:12:00] | Dibblah: | Which distribution? |
| [17:12:00] | deepdelver: | fedora core |
| [17:13:00] | laga: | deepdelver and his endless quest :> |
| [17:13:00] | deepdelver: | idd :P |
| [17:13:00] | Dibblah: | ldd. Close, but no cigar. |
| [17:13:00] | deepdelver: | but i not going to give up i have freevo working so now i going to make mythtv working |
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| [17:14:00] | deepdelver: | but.... |
| [17:14:00] | deepdelver: | nobody know how to fix? |
| [17:14:00] | Sneaker__: | yum install mythtv-suite |
| [17:14:00] | Dibblah: | Well, how did you install myth? |
| [17:15:00] | deepdelver: | updates-re: ################################################## 937/937 |
| [17:15:00] | deepdelver: | Parsing package install arguments |
| [17:15:00] | deepdelver: | No Match for argument: mythtv-suite |
| [17:15:00] | deepdelver: | Nothing to do |
| [17:15:00] | deepdelver: | from source |
| [17:16:00] | deepdelver: | is yum broken ? :S |
| [17:16:00] | Sneaker__: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php#getmythtv |
| [17:16:00] | Sneaker__: | that is a nice guide |
| [17:16:00] | Sneaker__: | for FC+mythtv |
| [17:16:00] | deepdelver: | i know |
| [17:16:00] | deepdelver: | but he told me the same |
| [17:16:00] | deepdelver: | :P |
| [17:16:00] | deepdelver: | yum install mythtv-suite |
| [17:17:00] | deepdelver: | but thats not going to work |
| [17:17:00] | soi-disant: | just a guess... might want to try reading mythdocs chapter 4.2 regarding shared libraries |
| [17:17:00] | soi-disant: | did you edit your shared library location file? |
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| [17:19:00] | deepdelver: | yes i did what 4.2 says |
| [17:19:00] | Dibblah: | what does ldd `which mythtv-setup` |
| [17:19:00] | Dibblah: | tell you? |
| [17:20:00] | deepdelver: | it works already |
| [17:20:00] | deepdelver: | i gues i forgot a command over there |
| [17:20:00] | deepdelver: | did them all again |
| [17:20:00] | deepdelver: | thnx mates :D |
| [17:22:00] | deepdelver: | but i still have the mysql problem |
| [17:22:00] | deepdelver: | maibe you know a solution for that one 2 |
| [17:22:00] | deepdelver: | [root@localhost .freevo]# /sbin/chkconfig mysqld on |
| [17:22:00] | deepdelver: | fout bij lezen informatie over service mysqld: Onbekend bestand of map |
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| [17:23:00] | laga: | *cough* |
| [17:24:00] | deepdelver: | ? |
| [17:24:00] | deepdelver: | no solutions? |
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| [17:24:00] | deepdelver: | please i so long busy with it |
| [17:24:00] | deepdelver: | i |
| [17:25:00] | deepdelver: | * i'm * |
| [17:25:00] | deepdelver: | fucking shit keyboard :P |
| [17:26:00] | deepdelver: | laga, ??? please help me |
| [17:26:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, I can't read that language. |
| [17:26:00] | laga: | same for me. |
| [17:28:00] | deepdelver: | ow i sorry |
| [17:28:00] | deepdelver: | error by reading information about service mysqld: unknown file or folder |
| [17:29:00] | Krazylegz: | Sounds like the service mysqld doesn't exist. |
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| [17:29:00] | Krazylegz: | Check /etc/init.d . |
| [17:29:00] | deepdelver: | what to check about it? |
| [17:29:00] | Krazylegz: | Check if it exists. |
| [17:30:00] | Krazylegz: | Do ls /etc/init.d and see if it maybe has a different name. |
| [17:30:00] | Sneaker__: | I ran channel scan and still I have empty dtv_multiplex |
| [17:30:00] | deepdelver: | dont see anything about mysqld |
| [17:30:00] | Sneaker__: | yum install mysql |
| [17:30:00] | Sneaker__: | :) |
| [17:30:00] | Krazylegz: | Anything about mysql? |
| [17:30:00] | deepdelver: | ok i will try it |
| [17:31:00] | Krazylegz: | deepdelver: Which how-to are you following? |
| [17:31:00] | deepdelver: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php#sw. |
| [17:31:00] | deepdelver: | Sneaker__, Parsing package install arguments |
| [17:32:00] | deepdelver: | Nothing to do |
| [17:32:00] | Sneaker__: | hmm |
| [17:32:00] | deepdelver: | i did what he said i made him install mysql from the dvd |
| [17:32:00] | Krazylegz: | So, that means that mysql is already installed? |
| [17:32:00] | deepdelver: | i gues |
| [17:32:00] | Krazylegz: | Are you sure that you installed it before, or when you setup the system? |
| [17:33:00] | Krazylegz: | Okay, we can at least check for the client tools. Try 'mysql' (without the quotes). |
| [17:33:00] | defaultro: | hey guys, what's a feedhorn? |
| [17:33:00] | deepdelver: | ERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2) |
| [17:34:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, at least the client libraries are installed. |
| [17:34:00] | Krazylegz: | Try yum install mysql-server . |
| [17:34:00] | defaultro: | deeplever, netstat -na|grep 3306 |
| [17:34:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, we know it's not running. |
| [17:34:00] | deepdelver: | defaultro, did |
| [17:34:00] | defaultro: | oh ok] |
| [17:34:00] | deepdelver: | Krazylegz, busy with it |
| [17:35:00] | defaultro: | what happens when you start it? |
| [17:35:00] | deepdelver: | Krazylegz, total size 1,3 mb |
| [17:35:00] | Krazylegz: | deepdelver: Get busy, but don't do anything I wouldn't do. ;-) |
| [17:35:00] | deepdelver: | ok |
| [17:35:00] | deepdelver: | :P |
| [17:35:00] | Krazylegz: | That's odd. MySQL server should be much larger than that. |
| [17:36:00] | deepdelver: | mysql-server.i386 0:3.23.58–16.FC3.1 – updates-released |
| [17:36:00] | Dibblah: | A feedhorn is the front bit of an LNB. It focusses the microwaves down onto the antenna inside itsself. |
| [17:36:00] | defaultro: | can you try this, locate safe_mysql |
| [17:36:00] | defaultro: | locate safe_mysqld |
| [17:36:00] | defaultro: | Thanks Dibblah |
| [17:36:00] | deepdelver: | defaultro, /usr/share/man/man1/safe_mysqld.1.gz |
| [17:36:00] | deepdelver: | Krazylegz, done |
| [17:37:00] | defaultro: | oh then looks like it's not installed |
| [17:37:00] | deepdelver: | [root@localhost mythtv-0.18.1]# /etc/init.d/mysqld start |
| [17:37:00] | deepdelver: | Initialiseren van de MySQL database: [ OK ] |
| [17:37:00] | deepdelver: | Starten van MySQL: [ OK ] |
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| [17:37:00] | Krazylegz: | Okay, now try looking in /etc/init.d to see if there is a MySQL entry |
| [17:37:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh, good. |
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| [17:37:00] | deepdelver: | :D |
| [17:37:00] | deepdelver: | wierd stuff |
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| [17:37:00] | deepdelver: | weird |
| [17:37:00] | dmz: | morning y'all |
| [17:38:00] | deepdelver: | morning :P |
| [17:38:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, now you can do your /sbin/chkconfig mysqld on, etc. |
| [17:38:00] | dmz: | quick question...i was just cleaning up recordings and noticed that I have 111 *.nuv files in my Recordings dir, but when I browse my "recordings" it lists only 46 |
| [17:38:00] | ** NightBird ponders trying to get s-video to work on his myth box... ** | |
| [17:38:00] | Krazylegz: | deepdelver: Looks like you installed the MySQL client tools but not the server. They are seperate RPMs. |
| [17:38:00] | dmz: | how can I get those in sync (I don't want to waste 20–30 gig) |
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| [17:40:00] | deepdelver: | Krazylegz, ok |
| [17:41:00] | Atamido: | rd recordings |
| [17:42:00] | deepdelver: | [root@localhost mythtv-0.18.1]# mysql -u root -p < /root/Desktop/mythtv-0.18.1/mythtv-0.18.1/database/mc.sql |
| [17:42:00] | deepdelver: | Enter password: |
| [17:42:00] | deepdelver: | ERROR 1064 at line 4: You have an error in your SQL syntax near 'TEMPORARY TABLES ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@localhost IDENTIFIED BY "mythtv"' at line 1 |
| [17:42:00] | deepdelver: | wtf |
| [17:43:00] | deepdelver: | is this normal? |
| [17:43:00] | Dibblah: | If you want to run really, really old mysql, you'll need to remove the temporary tables bit. |
| [17:43:00] | Dibblah: | I think. |
| [17:43:00] | Krazylegz: | MySQL 3 does not support temporary tables. |
| [17:43:00] | deepdelver: | no i just want to make this working |
| [17:43:00] | deepdelver: | i just updated it |
| [17:43:00] | Dibblah: | No, you didn't ;) |
| [17:43:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, do you know which version got installed with that yum install mysql-server command? |
| [17:44:00] | deepdelver: | mysql-server.i386 0:3.23.58–16.FC3.1 – updates-released |
| [17:44:00] | Krazylegz: | Yikes. |
| [17:44:00] | deepdelver: | mysql-server-3.23 |
| [17:44:00] | deepdelver: | that one |
| [17:44:00] | Krazylegz: | You are using FC4? |
| [17:44:00] | deepdelver: | nop 3 |
| [17:45:00] | Krazylegz: | Interesting. I'm not seeing a MySQL 4 for FC3. |
| [17:47:00] | deepdelver: | http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/ |
| [17:47:00] | deepdelver: | do i need 5? |
| [17:47:00] | Krazylegz: | Do you know which version of glibc you have? |
| [17:47:00] | Krazylegz: | No, use 4.1. |
| [17:48:00] | Krazylegz: | 5 is still in alpha, I think. |
| [17:48:00] | deepdelver: | http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/mysql/4.1.html |
| [17:48:00] | deepdelver: | dont know wich download mirror |
| [17:48:00] | deepdelver: | :S |
| [17:49:00] | dmz: | anyone on the recordings/listings out of sync? |
| [17:49:00] | deepdelver: | Krazylegz, do you know wich one |
| [17:49:00] | deepdelver: | ? |
| [17:50:00] | deepdelver: | ow the tutorial says i can ignore the error so i will |
| [17:50:00] | Krazylegz: | Do you know which version of glibc is installed? |
| [17:50:00] | Dibblah: | deepdelver: IRC is like a splint for your brain. Sometimes, you've just got to go without it and do stuff on your own. |
| [17:51:00] | deepdelver: | Dibblah, thnx for your info |
| [17:51:00] | Sneaker__: | Hmm dvb-t is bit complicated to setup I think |
| [17:52:00] | Sneaker__: | I still have empty dtv_multiplex table |
| [17:52:00] | Sneaker__: | everything else is fine I think |
| [17:52:00] | Dibblah: | Do you see channels? |
| [17:52:00] | Sneaker__: | nope |
| [17:53:00] | Dibblah: | Did you do a scan for channels in mythtv-setup? |
| [17:53:00] | Krazylegz: | deepdelver: You want "Server (glibc 2.3)". |
| [17:53:00] | Sneaker__: | Dibblah, yes, I didi |
| [17:53:00] | deepdelver: | i gues? |
| [17:53:00] | Krazylegz: | Grab the client stuff too. |
| [17:54:00] | Dibblah: | Sneaker__: And what did it do? |
| [17:54:00] | Sneaker__: | It scanned for channels |
| [17:54:00] | Sneaker__: | and found them |
| [17:54:00] | Sneaker__: | find |
| [17:54:00] | deepdelver: | Krazylegz, my mythtv-setup hangs when i select next |
| [17:55:00] | Krazylegz: | You're already into mythtv-setup? |
| [17:55:00] | Dibblah: | Sneaker__: So, if you have channels populated, then maybe the dtv-multiplex table should be blank? |
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| [17:55:00] | Sneaker__: | But I think it should be populated |
| [17:55:00] | Sneaker__: | Because I cant see any channels |
| [17:56:00] | deepdelver: | Krazylegz, yes i thought db is installed so i can go to the next step |
| [17:56:00] | Krazylegz: | Okay. |
| [17:56:00] | Krazylegz: | When does it hang? |
| [17:56:00] | Dibblah: | How do you mean you can't see any channels? |
| [17:56:00] | deepdelver: | first he says cant connect to database |
| [17:57:00] | Sneaker__: | Dibblah, when I push watch live tv I get blank screen |
| [17:57:00] | Sneaker__: | and mythbackend says that no pids set |
| [17:57:00] | deepdelver: | then i want to go to the next screen this works sometimes, sometimes i can go to the next screen but then he hangs on the end button |
| [17:57:00] | Sneaker__: | mut they are set |
| [17:57:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, you should figure out why it can't connect to the database first. |
| [17:57:00] | Dibblah: | deepdelver: Give it up. Get FC4, install, then *follow* Jarod's. |
| [17:57:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, FC4 would be better. |
| [17:58:00] | deepdelver: | yeah and then again 4 weeks busy with ivtv and all that other shit |
| [17:58:00] | deepdelver: | owwwww nooo.... |
| [17:58:00] | Sneaker__: | I think it I should somehow bind channel.mplexid <=> dtv_multiplex.mplexid |
| [17:58:00] | Dibblah: | deepdelver: You're coming across the focus bug, I think, in a QT version I can't remember. |
| [18:00:00] | deepdelver: | ok so it can be solved? |
| [18:00:00] | deepdelver: | then i going to download fedora core 4 |
| [18:00:00] | Dibblah: | Sure. Install a recent QT version. |
| [18:01:00] | deepdelver: | where do i get that |
| [18:01:00] | deepdelver: | and what is it |
| [18:01:00] | Dibblah: | Like I said. You get it by default with FC4. |
| [18:02:00] | deepdelver: | but i now using fc3 |
| [18:02:00] | Krazylegz: | You could try upgrading QT I suppose, but I don't know which version will fix your issue. |
| [18:02:00] | deepdelver: | :p isn't it possible to get it on fc3 |
| [18:02:00] | Krazylegz: | I guess we can see. |
| [18:02:00] | Dibblah: | Really, I don't care. I run Gentoo, therefore have bigger issues ;) |
| [18:03:00] | Krazylegz: | Heh, same her.e |
| [18:03:00] | Krazylegz: | I haven't run RH for a measurable amount of time since 7.3. |
| [18:04:00] | deepdelver: | ok i download fc 4 |
| [18:04:00] | deepdelver: | and hopefully i get it working focking shit ivtv driver |
| [18:04:00] | deepdelver: | i hate it |
| [18:04:00] | Krazylegz: | If you know which version you have working, then just remember the version number, etc. |
| [18:04:00] | Krazylegz: | It shouldn't be too hard. |
| [18:05:00] | Krazylegz: | Do you know which version of qt you are running? |
| [18:06:00] | deepdelver: | no but do you know where i can find the dvd version of fedora core 4 |
| [18:06:00] | deepdelver: | can find it on fedora.redhat.com |
| [18:06:00] | Krazylegz: | Dude. |
| [18:06:00] | Krazylegz: | You can BT it. |
| [18:06:00] | deepdelver: | ? |
| [18:07:00] | deepdelver: | what is that |
| [18:07:00] | Krazylegz: | BitTorrent. |
| [18:07:00] | Krazylegz: | They won't provide a download of the DVD because it chews up their bandwidth. |
| [18:07:00] | deepdelver: | ow |
| [18:08:00] | Krazylegz: | deepdelver: ftp://ftp.quicknet.nl/pub/Linux/download.fedo . . . i386-DVD.iso |
| [18:08:00] | Krazylegz: | The mirrors have it listed. |
| [18:08:00] | Krazylegz: | I presume that one is near you. Die Niederlande sind nicht so gross. |
| [18:09:00] | laga: | aber flach ;) |
| [18:09:00] | deepdelver: | :P |
| [18:09:00] | Krazylegz: | Haha. |
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| [18:10:00] | deepdelver: | but now i see i just forgot some shit to install by setup |
| [18:10:00] | deepdelver: | i forgot qt-mysql |
| [18:10:00] | deepdelver: | and so on |
| [18:10:00] | deepdelver: | but when i want to install it now he ask for qt |
| [18:10:00] | Krazylegz: | So, install qt? |
| [18:11:00] | Raven_301 (n=raven_30@Kitchener-HSE-ppp3566873.sympatico.ca) Quit () | |
| [18:11:00] | deepdelver: | thats easy for you but i need to search on google first how |
| [18:11:00] | deepdelver: | so if you know how please tell it me :d |
| [18:11:00] | Dibblah: | USE=mysql emerge qt |
| [18:12:00] | Dibblah: | Well, that's how I do it... Doesn't help you much. |
| [18:12:00] | Krazylegz: | Heh. |
| [18:12:00] | deepdelver: | bash: emerge: command not found |
| [18:12:00] | Dibblah: | No. Make it stop. |
| [18:12:00] | deepdelver: | ?? |
| [18:12:00] | Krazylegz: | deepdelver: If you are going to use Fedora, you should probably get some stuff together first. RPMFind is a good resource, for example. |
| [18:12:00] | Dibblah: | Never mind. |
| [18:13:00] | Krazylegz: | Haha. |
| [18:13:00] | Krazylegz: | I'd like to see "yum install portage" next. :-) |
| [18:13:00] | deepdelver: | yum install portage busy with it |
| [18:13:00] | deepdelver: | Parsing package install arguments |
| [18:13:00] | deepdelver: | No Match for argument: portage |
| [18:13:00] | deepdelver: | Nothing to do |
| [18:14:00] | Dibblah: | Seriously. Please. Stop. |
| [18:14:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, we're messing with you. |
| [18:14:00] | laga: | try 'beat head against wall' |
| [18:14:00] | deepdelver: | ok |
| [18:14:00] | deepdelver: | :-D |
| [18:15:00] | deepdelver: | i sorry but i a noob but i will got better with it |
| [18:15:00] | Dibblah: | FC4. Jarod. |
| [18:15:00] | deepdelver: | but i need some teachers |
| [18:15:00] | Dibblah: | Read Jarod. Don't skip bits. It works. |
| [18:15:00] | laga: | yep |
| [18:16:00] | deepdelver: | ok |
| [18:16:00] | laga: | so i almost bought a dvd writer today, but i wasn't sure because they only had benq and lg. can anyone comment on those? |
| [18:16:00] | deepdelver: | :Î…( |
| [18:16:00] | deepdelver: | benq is the best |
| [18:16:00] | deepdelver: | every computer shop says to |
| [18:16:00] | deepdelver: | benq owned so |
| [18:16:00] | deepdelver: | wich type |
| [18:16:00] | deepdelver: | ? |
| [18:17:00] | Dibblah: | I have the LG. Just used it to do a 600Gb backup. 2 disks failed verify. |
| [18:17:00] | Dibblah: | Which isn't at all bad out of 150ish. |
| [18:17:00] | laga: | deepdelver: i don't remember, sorry. |
| [18:17:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, dvd backups |
| [18:17:00] | laga: | should i prefer a plextor one if i can buy one for an acceptable price? |
| [18:18:00] | deepdelver: | ok but i need to go for diner bye all se you tommorow with fc 4 :P |
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| [18:19:00] | laga: | Dibblah: BTw, what software do you use for backups? |
| [18:19:00] | Dibblah: | Oh good. Looking forward to it soo much. |
| [18:19:00] | Dibblah: | tar and some scripts. |
| [18:20:00] | Dibblah: | 3x dvd writers, lots of disks and lots of trips up a ladder. |
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| [18:21:00] | Dibblah: | Oh. And enough space to store the entire backup before writing it to the disks. |
| [18:21:00] | PatrickDK: | I just use LTO3 tapes |
| [18:23:00] | laga: | Dibblah: hehe, ok, thanks ;) |
| [18:24:00] | Krazylegz: | Dibblah: You're mean. :-) |
| [18:29:00] | laga: | Krazylegz: he's right. deepdelver can be a real peast |
| [18:29:00] | laga: | pest* |
| [18:29:00] | Krazylegz: | He's been in here for a while, hasn't he? |
| [18:29:00] | laga: | yep |
| [18:29:00] | Krazylegz: | Then yeah, I guess he should be a bit farther along by now. |
| [18:30:00] | Krazylegz: | Still, it was pretty funny when he used that portage command. :-) |
| [18:33:00] | Krazylegz: | How often do you guys update your Mythboxen? |
| [18:33:00] | Krazylegz: | I'm not sure if I should really do this apt-get upgrade on KnoppMyth. |
| [18:36:00] | sandos: | Dibblah: wow, you do THAT big backups to DVD? :) |
| [18:36:00] | sandos: | *impressed* |
| [18:36:00] | sandos: | what software do you use? |
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| [18:38:00] | Krazylegz: | Wish me luck guys. |
| [18:39:00] | ascii`: | i've got an conflict, when i try to install libqt3c102-mt i get the package is referred to libqt3-mt, but mythtv-backend doesn't care about that..how to resolve that? |
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| [19:06:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | hm... |
| [19:06:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | svideo is semi-working |
| [19:06:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | it's a bit too jittery for me... |
| [19:06:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | but.. |
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| [19:13:00] | ** NB_Ubuntu needs to figure out how to install ivtv for a pvr 150 mce ** | |
| [19:14:00] | simcop2387: | NB_Ubuntu: hmm i haven't tried my svideo yet but i might be able to help with simple problems (i just got mine two days ago) |
| [19:15:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | can you help me get ivtv installed? |
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| [19:15:00] | simcop2387: | i'll do what i can |
| [19:15:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | ok... where do I start? |
| [19:15:00] | simcop2387: | NB_Ubuntu: what distro are you using? |
| [19:15:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | hoary |
| [19:16:00] | simcop2387: | i should have guessed... i jsut got up, lets see i don't think ubuntu has any packages for ivtv but i could be wrong |
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| [19:16:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | I did an apt-cache search for ivtv |
| [19:16:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | nothing |
| [19:17:00] | simcop2387: | ok, sounds good |
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| [19:17:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [19:17:00] | simcop2387: | http://dl.ivtvdriver.org/ck/ivtv-0.3/ you'll want to download the file ivtv-0.3.7k.tgz from here |
| [19:18:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | ok |
| [19:18:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | downloaded |
| [19:18:00] | StefanD: | hello everyone. i'm having some problems with mythtv lcd, it behaves strange. am i the only one? |
| [19:19:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | huh... nice... myth has all of the packages avalible so I can just install those.. |
| [19:19:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | simcop2387, once I've downloaded it, what do I do with it then? |
| [19:19:00] | simcop2387: | now you'll want to extract the files from it (tar -xvzf ivtv-0.3.7k.tgz) |
| [19:19:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | ok |
| [19:20:00] | simcop2387: | then cd into the directory it created (cd ivtv-0.3.7k) |
| [19:20:00] | simcop2387: | and type make |
| [19:21:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.10-5–386/build: No such file or directory. Stop. |
| [19:21:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | indeed... there is no build |
| [19:21:00] | simcop2387: | sounds like the kernel sources aren't installed, i don't know how to get those with ubuntu for that particular issue you'll want to ask in #ubuntu |
| [19:23:00] | StefanD: | does anyone even use a lcd with mythtv? |
| [19:24:00] | xris: | StefanD: lcd tv, or lcdproc? |
| [19:24:00] | StefanD: | oh, sorry :) lcdproc ofcourse |
| [19:24:00] | xris: | I've heard people talk about it, but I don't know anyone personally. |
| [19:25:00] | StefanD: | would like to know if i do something wrong or if it is a bug in mythtv |
| [19:25:00] | simcop2387: | NB_Ubuntu: do an apt-cache search kernel-sources and paste it here http://sial.org/pbot |
| [19:26:00] | StefanD: | i'm leaning towards a bug, but would like to know if anyone else is using lcdproc and if they have the same strange behaviour |
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| [19:27:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | simcop2387, no results returned |
| [19:27:00] | simcop2387: | NB_Ubuntu: thats odd... |
| [19:27:00] | simcop2387: | i don't know a whole lot about ubuntu but i know that it should have that at least |
| [19:28:00] | simcop2387: | NB_Ubuntu: try apt-cache search kde just to see if its working properly |
| [19:28:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | well, I think I just need to find the correct source area |
| [19:29:00] | StefanD: | can anyone submit a bugreport for mythtv or do i need to go through a developer? |
| [19:29:00] | simcop2387: | StefanD: not a clue |
| [19:30:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | simcop2387, it's working fine |
| [19:31:00] | simcop2387: | NB_Ubuntu: odd, well they should be able to help in #ubuntu, i'll be here for a while and should be able to help once you get the kernel sources installed, you need those to be able to build the ivtv modules |
| [19:31:00] | ** NB_Ubuntu is asking around ** | |
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| [19:34:00] | simcop2387: | man i'm not used to watching tv recordings and be able to skip them... |
| [19:35:00] | simcop2387: | i was just doing something else while they were on... |
| [19:36:00] | simcop2387: | anyone know where i can find out how to use the edit recording option in the 'm' menu of recordings |
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| [19:36:00] | pfn: | hrm, how long does it usually take for registration to take effect for datadirect |
| [19:37:00] | ** NB_Ubuntu installs the headers.. ** | |
| [19:37:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | lets see if that helps... |
| [19:37:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | jez this is a big file.. |
| [19:38:00] | ** NB_Ubuntu is glad for his higher speed connection for once.. ** | |
| [19:38:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | hey... |
| [19:38:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | I see a build |
| [19:38:00] | simcop2387: | pfn: about 10–15 minutes for me, might take longer depending on when they update everything |
| [19:38:00] | pfn: | ah, ok, so I just registered on labs.zap2it... I guess I should wait a bit |
| [19:39:00] | pfn: | now to figure out why mythtv says it can't open the video source when trying to scan for channels... |
| [19:39:00] | ** NB_Ubuntu sighs ** | |
| [19:39:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | "g++ command not found" |
| [19:39:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | of all the.. |
| [19:39:00] | simcop2387: | you need to install gcc |
| [19:39:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | actually, g++ |
| [19:39:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | I already have gcc |
| [19:40:00] | laga: | apt-get install build-essentials ;) |
| [19:40:00] | pfn: | ah, I guess I need to have a video source defined before I can scan channels |
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| [19:40:00] | pfn: | so get c++ support for gcc |
| [19:40:00] | simcop2387: | pfn: usually that helps |
| [19:41:00] | pfn: | so registration to labs.zap2it isn't automatically (instantly) registering to datadirect, booo |
| [19:41:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | hey |
| [19:41:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | it appears to have finished |
| [19:41:00] | batdog is now known as batdog|gone | |
| [19:42:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | without errors even |
| [19:42:00] | Surye: | Man, the commercial detection is magic =O |
| [19:42:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | ok, so now that ivtv is compiled... what next? |
| [19:42:00] | simcop2387: | cool |
| [19:42:00] | pfn: | hmm, so does winmyth require mysql... I hope not |
| [19:42:00] | Surye: | pfn: No, it's a frontend |
| [19:43:00] | simcop2387: | NB_Ubuntu: now you need to install them, sudo make install |
| [19:43:00] | pfn: | ok, I misunderstood then, someone mentioned yesterday that mythfrontend used mysql |
| [19:43:00] | pfn: | so I inferred that winmyth must as well |
| [19:43:00] | Krazylegz: | I do wish I understood the MySQL hate. |
| [19:43:00] | pfn: | because mysql is a garbage database |
| [19:43:00] | pfn: | might as well be using sqlite |
| [19:43:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | I got a bunch of modules saying it conflicts with the ivtv module |
| [19:43:00] | Krazylegz: | So, you're against installing it, even though it would work fine for this purpose? |
| [19:44:00] | pfn: | I'm against installing it because it's a waste of system resources |
| [19:44:00] | pfn: | because I have other perfectly good databases running on the operating system |
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| [19:44:00] | pfn: | because, like I said, it could very well just be sqlite, cuz mysql sucksass that bad :p |
| [19:44:00] | Krazylegz: | It would be interesting to have it work well with other databases. |
| [19:44:00] | simcop2387: | NB_Ubuntu: paste the errors at http://sial.org/pbot and give us the url of your paste |
| [19:45:00] | pfn: | I'm just trying out the patch in trac#240 |
| [19:45:00] | pfn: | don't care if the guy doesn't know what he's doing, it seems to kinda work |
| [19:45:00] | pfn: | then I'll see about improving it... |
| [19:45:00] | Surye: | sqlite doesn't stand up against mysql |
| [19:46:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | http://sial.org/pbot/13031 |
| [19:46:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | it gives some examples of how to hide them.. |
| [19:46:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | should I do that? |
| [19:46:00] | pfn: | mysql is as bad a database as php is a bad a language, it lacks the required functionality that comprise a real rdbms |
| [19:47:00] | Surye: | o_O like... sqlite? |
| [19:47:00] | Surye: | Which is only a subset of SQL |
| [19:47:00] | pfn: | mysql completely disregards the standard called sql92 :p |
| [19:47:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | should I go ahead and hide those files? |
| [19:47:00] | simcop2387: | NB_Ubuntu: yep |
| [19:47:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | ok |
| [19:47:00] | Krazylegz: | I'm not defending MySQL here, but I do think that it works for this application. It doesn't have to be the best for MythTV, just "good enough". |
| [19:47:00] | simcop2387: | NB_Ubuntu: those are the original ones from the kernel that will not work with ivtv |
| [19:48:00] | Surye: | And sqlite doesn't fully impliment sql92 =P |
| [19:48:00] | Surye: | besides mysql 4.1 is much more sql92 complient |
| [19:48:00] | pfn: | I never said sqlite was better, I said using mysql, might as well be using sqlite |
| [19:48:00] | simcop2387: | Krazylegz: yep, though i'd love to have postgres instead :) |
| [19:48:00] | pfn: | much more, but not yet |
| [19:48:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | ok depmod didn't display anything |
| [19:48:00] | Surye: | name a sql rdbm that is |
| [19:48:00] | simcop2387: | NB_Ubuntu: cool |
| [19:49:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | so the drivers are installed? |
| [19:49:00] | simcop2387: | NB_Ubuntu: yes |
| [19:49:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | cool |
| [19:49:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | bbiab, plugging the cable in |
| [19:49:00] | simcop2387: | now do sudo /sbin/modprobe ivtv and paste the output from 'dmesg' onto sial.org for us |
| [19:49:00] | Krazylegz: | I, for one, am quite elated that MythTV doesn't require Oracle. :-) |
| [19:49:00] | Surye: | Haha |
| [19:50:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | Module ivtv could not be found |
| [19:50:00] | Surye: | You want a complete disregard for SQL92, try MSSQL |
| [19:50:00] | Krazylegz: | You guys have just named the two databases I have to work with everyday. |
| [19:50:00] | Krazylegz: | As well as the language. |
| [19:50:00] | Surye: | Krazylegz: As do I =P |
| [19:50:00] | ** Krazylegz gets a knife to stab himself with ** | |
| [19:50:00] | simcop2387: | NB_Ubuntu: redo the install setup "sudo make install" ivtv might not have installed itself while those were there |
| [19:51:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | I just tried that.. |
| [19:51:00] | simcop2387: | cd /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ivtv |
| [19:51:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | no such directory |
| [19:51:00] | pfn: | time to walk the damn dog... |
| [19:51:00] | Surye: | I'm thinking of installing mythtv and mythplugins from svn... |
| [19:52:00] | Surye: | And I can't decide what to get first, another 150, or a new HD |
| [19:52:00] | simcop2387: | NB_Ubuntu: hmm that makes it sound like its not installed properly, paste all of the output from sudo make install onto sial.org |
| [19:52:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, I have some large mysql systems |
| [19:52:00] | PatrickDK: | and I believe yahoo is still running off mysql |
| [19:53:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | http://sial.org/pbot/13032 |
| [19:53:00] | simcop2387: | mysql has its place as a simple database for simple applications but for anything decently complex i wouldn't use it |
| [19:54:00] | PatrickDK: | ya, it doesn't have stored procedures, and hmm |
| [19:54:00] | PatrickDK: | can't think of what it is call |
| [19:54:00] | PatrickDK: | stuff that postgres has |
| [19:54:00] | PatrickDK: | have a few postgres db's also |
| [19:54:00] | simcop2387: | find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -iname \*ivtv\* | http://sial.org/pbot |
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| [19:55:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | no result |
| [19:55:00] | simcop2387: | ok this is weird... |
| [19:55:00] | simcop2387: | find /lib/modules/ -iname \*ivtv\* | http://sial.org/pbot |
| [19:55:00] | simcop2387: | lets see if it put it in the wrong directory |
| [19:56:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | 2.6.10 |
| [19:56:00] | simcop2387: | yep |
| [19:56:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | so move everything from those directories into the right one? |
| [19:56:00] | simcop2387: | a bug in the install it would seem or its because of something weird ubuntu wise |
| [19:56:00] | simcop2387: | yep |
| [19:57:00] | Krazylegz: | That pastebot is a neat idea. |
| [19:57:00] | simcop2387: | Krazylegz: gets used in #perl all the time |
| [19:57:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah. I don't hang out in there. |
| [19:57:00] | PatrickDK: | we use one also in #asterisk |
| [19:57:00] | PatrickDK: | pastebin.ca |
| [19:58:00] | Krazylegz: | We usually make people paste into pastebin manually, I think. |
| [19:58:00] | Krazylegz: | Er, 'we' being this channel. |
| [19:58:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | how do you delete a directory? |
| [19:58:00] | ascii`: | can any1 help me..when i enter "Watch TV" i get only black screen, is this a known problem? |
| [19:58:00] | Krazylegz: | Does it have anything in it? |
| [19:59:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | it shouldn'y |
| [19:59:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | I'll double check |
| [19:59:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | it's empty |
| [19:59:00] | simcop2387: | hmm if someone in here has ops they can get pasteling to join and then sial.org can paste the urls of everything to the channel thats pasted from http://sial.org/pbot/mythtv-users |
| [20:00:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | ok it's gone |
| [20:00:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | try make install again? |
| [20:00:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | or no |
| [20:01:00] | simcop2387: | do a depmod -a |
| [20:01:00] | simcop2387: | then a modprobe ivtv |
| [20:01:00] | simcop2387: | and paste the output of dmesg to sial.org |
| [20:01:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | nothing |
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| [20:02:00] | simcop2387: | nothing in dmesg? |
| [20:03:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | oh.. dmesg? |
| [20:03:00] | simcop2387: | yea |
| [20:03:00] | ascii`: | noone can help me? |
| [20:03:00] | simcop2387: | ascii`: have you setup inputs with mythsetup yet? |
| [20:04:00] | simcop2387: | ascii`: what kind of tv card do you have? |
| [20:04:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | http://sial.org/pbot/13033 |
| [20:05:00] | ascii`: | simcop2387, i've got a MEdiaCenter 300i, Pinnacle...SAA7134 chip.. |
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| [20:06:00] | ascii`: | have setup some with mythtv-setup |
| [20:06:00] | simcop2387: | NB_Ubuntu: ok now we'll need the driver disk that came with the card to get the firmware off it, i'll send you a link that'll tell you how to do it much better than i can |
| [20:06:00] | simcop2387: | ascii`: hmm i don't know much about those cards but it sounds like its unable to get any video from them or something |
| [20:07:00] | ** NB_Ubuntu looks for the cd, but fails.... ** | |
| [20:07:00] | simcop2387: | http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-index.php?page=PVR150-500Firmware check that out |
| [20:07:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | it's probably back at home.. |
| [20:07:00] | simcop2387: | NB_Ubuntu: ah i'll put the files up then :) |
| [20:07:00] | Surye: | Anyone know why mythtv's svn refuses to respect the supplied prefix? |
| [20:07:00] | Krazylegz: | ascii`: I've had that happen sometimes. |
| [20:07:00] | Surye: | mythplugins rather |
| [20:07:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | which is 700 miles away, so thats probably not going to work |
| [20:07:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | simcop2387, for a pvr 150 mce? |
| [20:08:00] | ascii`: | simcop2387, i can run xawtv and mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l2 |
| [20:08:00] | simcop2387: | NB_Ubuntu: yep :) i've got one too |
| [20:08:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | awesome |
| [20:08:00] | ** NB_Ubuntu goes about putting the cable into the card ** | |
| [20:09:00] | pfn: | boo, I can't connect a video source to input |
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| [20:09:00] | simcop2387: | NB_Ubuntu: http://vdiddy.bounceme.net/~ryan/HcwMakoA.ROM use those files with the instructioins on the wiki |
| [20:09:00] | lane: | Hi all. I just successfully compiled mythtv-0.18.1 on FC2. Now I'm trying to compile mythplugins. I'm running into tons of errors when I make mythplugins. The first couple are "No such file or directory" for mythtv/mythwidgets.h and mythtv/dialogbox.h. I did a --prefix to install mythtv in a non-standard location. Other than also passing the same --prefix to mythplugins, can anyone think what I need to do to get make to see those fil |
| [20:09:00] | ascii`: | Krazylegz, u know why? |
| [20:10:00] | Krazylegz: | No, but I just restart the backend and then try again, and it usually works. |
| [20:10:00] | Krazylegz: | Sometimes I restart both the backend and the frontend. |
| [20:10:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | hm.. |
| [20:10:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | that wiki you sent me is takeing along time to load.. |
| [20:11:00] | Krazylegz: | lane: If they're header files, maybe you could copy them to the right spot, compile, and then delete them? Would that work? |
| [20:11:00] | lane: | Krazlegz: possibly. But it seems like I shouldn't have to do that. |
| [20:11:00] | simcop2387: | NB_Ubuntu: yea it does sometimes |
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| [20:12:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | ok |
| [20:12:00] | lane: | I'm guessing there's an option to either configure or make that I'm missing |
| [20:12:00] | simcop2387: | if it doesn't load i'll paste the instructions |
| [20:12:00] | ** NB_Ubuntu ponders starting the myth install... ** | |
| [20:13:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | hm.... |
| [20:13:00] | simcop2387: | wait do you have a PAL version? |
| [20:13:00] | lane: | maybe I should ask a different question: does anyone have Mythplugins for 0.18.1 installed on FC2? |
| [20:13:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | ? |
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| [20:13:00] | simcop2387: | no you don't according to dmesg ok |
| [20:13:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | heh |
| [20:14:00] | simcop2387: | it'd be a different firmware if you did |
| [20:14:00] | lane: | I ask because Axel doesn't have rpms up any more for mythplugins on FC2, which is why I'm doing the manual compile |
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| [20:15:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | no good |
| [20:15:00] | simcop2387: | whats no good? |
| [20:15:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | it's not loading |
| [20:15:00] | simcop2387: | ah |
| [20:16:00] | simcop2387: | http://sial.org/pbot/13035 |
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| [20:19:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | ok |
| [20:19:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | I followed those instructions |
| [20:20:00] | simcop2387: | ok now do an rmmod ivtv |
| [20:20:00] | simcop2387: | and then modprobe it again |
| [20:20:00] | Surye: | Why would one use --enable-opengl-vsync ? |
| [20:20:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | ok |
| [20:21:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | Unable to open '/lib/modules/ivtv-fw-enc.bin'. |
| [20:21:00] | simcop2387: | you didn't make the symlink did you? |
| [20:21:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | ln -s HcwFalcn.rom ivtv-fw-enc.bin |
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| [20:23:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | make symlink? |
| [20:24:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | remember, I'm a linux newbie, so unless explicetly told to do so, I probably haven't done it |
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| [20:25:00] | simcop2387: | yea |
| [20:25:00] | simcop2387: | do the ln -s and then rmmod ivtv and modprobe it again |
| [20:25:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | ok |
| [20:27:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | same thing |
| [20:28:00] | simcop2387: | doesn't find it still? |
| [20:28:00] | simcop2387: | ls -la /lib/modules and paste the output to sial.org |
| [20:32:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | http://sial.org/pbot/13037 |
| [20:33:00] | simcop2387: | run the ln -s command in /lib/modules |
| [20:34:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | hey, there it is.. |
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| [20:36:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | awesome |
| [20:36:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | it's been initialized |
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| [20:40:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | so chances are, the tv capture card is now working? |
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| [20:43:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | is there a way to test this so that I know for certain if it's working? |
| [20:45:00] | simcop2387: | NB_Ubuntu: ah sorry was busy for a bit |
| [20:45:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | np |
| [20:47:00] | simcop2387: | NB_Ubuntu: run this command ivtvctl -u 0 -p 6 -r 61250 |
| [20:48:00] | simcop2387: | then go and do this cat /dev/video0 | mplayer - |
| [20:48:00] | simcop2387: | and it should play video |
| [20:48:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | mplayer could not be found.. |
| [20:48:00] | simcop2387: | ah then do this, cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg wait a few seconds then hit control+c |
| [20:49:00] | simcop2387: | the play test.mpg with whatever player you normally use |
| [20:49:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | could not play it... no decoders found to handle it |
| [20:50:00] | simcop2387: | hmm |
| [20:50:00] | simcop2387: | file test.mpg |
| [20:51:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | test.mpg: MPEG sequence, v2, program multiplex |
| [20:51:00] | simcop2387: | well that works but hmm |
| [20:51:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | so the video player doesn't have the right codecs? |
| [20:51:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | thats ok.. so long as myth can handle it |
| [20:51:00] | ascii`: | can someone tell me how to add channels or search for channels..? |
| [20:52:00] | simcop2387: | something like that |
| [20:52:00] | ascii`: | do i have to add channels manual? |
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| [20:52:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | ok, so now install mythtv? |
| [20:52:00] | simcop2387: | ascii`: you need to go register at labs.zap2it.com and use the datadirect thing unless you aren't in the US |
| [20:52:00] | simcop2387: | NB_Ubuntu: should be good |
| [20:53:00] | dgilmore|home: | anyone here able to help me with initial setup of a pcHDTV 3000 card |
| [20:53:00] | ascii`: | simcop2387, whats labs.zap2it.com? |
| [20:53:00] | laga: | *.no doesn't look like USA ;) |
| [20:53:00] | simcop2387: | oh |
| [20:53:00] | cosmo_: | hauppage advertises that the pvr 150 has mpg2 encoder, as does the 250. I understand that the 350 has the decoder, but what exactly is the difference between the 150 and 250? |
| [20:53:00] | simcop2387: | ascii`: in your case i don't know how to add the channels |
| [20:53:00] | NB_Ubuntu: | hm...apt-get is no longer registereing myth as a package to download.. |
| [20:53:00] | laga: | cosmo_: the 150 is cheaper because it uses a different design. |
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| [20:56:00] | ascii`: | anyone know how to add channels?i'm from norway.. |
| [20:57:00] | laga: | ascii`: are you using analog tv? |
| [20:57:00] | laga: | brb |
| [20:58:00] | ascii`: | laga, yes..cable tv..analog signals.. |
| [20:58:00] | simcop2387: | the 150 rocks, its cheaper, does great quality and dang is it fast |
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| [21:00:00] | laga: | ascii`: well, get your frequencies by using 'scantv' and use mythfilldatabase --manual |
| [21:02:00] | ascii`: | laga : when i use scantv, where shall i enter the "channel=E9"? |
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| [21:10:00] | laga: | ascii`: as the freqid |
| [21:11:00] | ascii`: | are you typing the frequency or the E9 ? 175.25 or E5? |
| [21:12:00] | laga: | E9 etc should work fine. |
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| [21:14:00] | ascii`: | thanks..i'll try |
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| [21:33:00] | simcop2387: | NB_Ubuntu: hows the card working? |
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| [21:43:00] | ascii`: | i don't get more than one channel..damn!' |
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| [21:58:00] | lane: | Hi again. Does anyone know where mythtv-setup looks for its themes? |
| [21:59:00] | lane: | I just compiled and mythtv-0.18.1, mythplugins, and myththemes on FC2 |
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| [22:00:00] | lane: | and when I try to run mythtv-setup, it complains that it can't find the blue theme, even though blue is /usr/local/share/themes/ along with all the other themes |
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| [22:01:00] | lane: | oops, actual path is /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes |
| [22:01:00] | lane: | I see quite a few references to this problem from Apr-May in the archives, but not solutions |
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| [22:09:00] | Twiggy: | Heya anybody here well versed with homebrew receivers? |
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| [22:14:00] | NightBird: | hm... |
| [22:14:00] | NightBird: | so I goofed up in installing myth... |
| [22:14:00] | NightBird: | mainly mythtv-database.. |
| [22:14:00] | ascii`: | i only get one channel in my mthtv, why?:p |
| [22:15:00] | PatrickDK: | channel 3? :_ |
| [22:15:00] | PatrickDK: | :) |
| [22:15:00] | ascii`: | no, i changed it to 1..:p |
| [22:16:00] | ascii`: | but i can't change channels using nay keys.. |
| [22:17:00] | ascii`: | nothing happends when i use the arrows.. |
| [22:17:00] | PatrickDK: | what happens if you type it in manually? |
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| [22:18:00] | ascii`: | the numbers just fades out.. |
| [22:18:00] | PatrickDK: | did you press enter? |
| [22:18:00] | ascii`: | yes |
| [22:19:00] | PatrickDK: | you in the us? |
| [22:19:00] | ascii`: | no, norway.. |
| [22:19:00] | PatrickDK: | did you setup the tv program list correctly? |
| [22:20:00] | ascii`: | i don't know..cause i really dont know how to do it.. |
| [22:20:00] | PatrickDK: | xmltv |
| [22:20:00] | ascii`: | i used mythfilldatabase --xawchannels /dev/video0 /etc/X11/xawtrc |
| [22:20:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, that is what the instructions are for |
| [22:21:00] | PatrickDK: | hmm, dvb? |
| [22:21:00] | ascii`: | i've tried with xmltv too..didn't work.. |
| [22:21:00] | ascii`: | hmm..it's a dvb card, but i don't know if it is using the dvb feature.. |
| [22:21:00] | ascii`: | i can see tv with mplayer and xawtv..there all the channels work.. |
| [22:22:00] | ascii`: | scantv also gives me a nice list of channels.. |
| [22:22:00] | PatrickDK: | can you do a scantv from mythtv-setup |
| [22:23:00] | PatrickDK: | try this: http://www.ethics-gradient.net/myth/mythdvb.html |
| [22:23:00] | PatrickDK: | heh, first google hit |
| [22:23:00] | laga: | he doesn't have DVB. |
| [22:23:00] | PatrickDK: | heh |
| [22:23:00] | laga: | mythfilldatabase --xawchannels /dev/video0 <- does that make sense? |
| [22:24:00] | PatrickDK: | nope, |
| [22:24:00] | PatrickDK: | but if he doesn't have xmltv setup |
| [22:24:00] | ascii`: | PatrickDK, i can't use scantv from mythtv-setup..and i don't know why..the scan for channels button is disabled.. |
| [22:24:00] | PatrickDK: | that won't do anything |
| [22:25:00] | ascii`: | laga, --xawchannels <sourceid> <zawtvrcfile> |
| [22:25:00] | ascii`: | <sourceid> = cardinput |
| [22:25:00] | ascii`: | what should i use insted of /dev/video0 ? |
| [22:26:00] | laga: | ascii`: '1' |
| [22:26:00] | laga: | without the single quotes |
| [22:26:00] | ascii`: | *try* |
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| [22:27:00] | ascii`: | didn?t get any channels.. |
| [22:27:00] | ascii`: | don't understand this! |
| [22:27:00] | ascii`: | :p |
| [22:28:00] | laga: | it's not supposed to scan. and you need to do --manual |
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| [22:28:00] | cosmo_: | I understand the mce radio tuner isn't supported by myth, but is it supported under linux at all? I certainly dont see it in menuconfig, but is it some generic chip? |
| [22:31:00] | NightBird: | hm... |
| [22:31:00] | NightBird: | ok, so I "installed" mythtv.. |
| [22:31:00] | NightBird: | however it can't connect to database.. |
| [22:32:00] | NightBird: | oh yeah, and I'm getting a Segmentation fault.. |
| [22:33:00] | Surye: | Hey, if I am watching a movie, I'm half way into it, the ringbuffer goes back to past the begining, is there a way to record the whole movie, and grab the first half from the ringbuffer? |
| [22:33:00] | PatrickDK: | not really |
| [22:34:00] | Surye: | Hmm |
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| [22:34:00] | NightBird: | it's trying to use lirc... |
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| [22:40:00] | NightBird: | why would myth cause a segmentation fault.. |
| [22:42:00] | ** NightBird takes a break from it for now ** | |
| [22:42:00] | PatrickDK: | it doesn't have enough error checking |
| [22:42:00] | ** NightBird watches anime ** | |
| [22:42:00] | PatrickDK: | I found mythtv-setup segfaults if it can't connect to the database correctly |
| [22:43:00] | ** NightBird nods ** | |
| [22:43:00] | NightBird: | thats whats happening, but I can't figure out how to fix that |
| [22:44:00] | PatrickDK: | all you have to do is cat the sample file into mysql |
| [22:44:00] | PatrickDK: | unless you have multible computers your running myth on |
| [22:44:00] | ascii`: | why cant i scan for channels in mythtv-setup |
| [22:44:00] | ascii`: | ? |
| [22:44:00] | PatrickDK: | then you need to add some more grants |
| [22:44:00] | NightBird: | cat the sample file? |
| [22:44:00] | PatrickDK: | ascii, well, there is no channel scan, that I have found |
| [22:44:00] | PatrickDK: | you have to add them manually |
| [22:45:00] | PatrickDK: | or use xmltv to insert them |
| [22:45:00] | NightBird: | how do I cat the sample file to mysql? |
| [22:46:00] | PatrickDK: | look at the mythtv setup manual |
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| [22:46:00] | NightBird: | hm... |
| [22:47:00] | ascii`: | PatrickDK, in the Channel Editor there are a button called "Scan for channels" |
| [22:47:00] | laga: | ascii`: it doesn't work in 0.18 |
| [22:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | NightBird: What exactly are you trying to accomplish ? |
| [22:48:00] | NightBird: | GreyFoxx, I'm trying to get myth to work |
| [22:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Note the word "exactly" |
| [22:49:00] | NightBird: | oh |
| [22:49:00] | NightBird: | well as of right now, I'm trying to setup mysql since that isn't working as of right now |
| [22:49:00] | ascii`: | laga, is it a version it DO work in? |
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| [22:50:00] | laga: | ascii`: it works for me with the version i got from SVN. but to be honest: if you can't get mythtv working, don't try svn |
| [22:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | NightBird: and at what point are you stuck (which I assume isn't already covered by the docs on mythtv.org) |
| [22:52:00] | ** NightBird can't find mc.sql ** | |
| [22:52:00] | NightBird: | I'm trying to setup the sql database I guess |
| [22:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | did you install myth via a package or source ? |
| [22:55:00] | NightBird: | package |
| [22:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | the mc.sql file is in the source, but if you used a package I wouldn't know where it put it |
| [22:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | but it's only like 2 or 3 lines |
| [22:55:00] | laga: | NightBird: try /usr/share/mythtv/ |
| [22:56:00] | NightBird: | I'm there right now |
| [22:56:00] | NightBird: | found it |
| [22:56:00] | NightBird: | in sql |
| [22:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well if you have that, then I would point you to : http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.2 |
| [22:57:00] | NightBird: | yeah |
| [22:57:00] | NightBird: | thats where I was working at |
| [22:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | and .... |
| [22:58:00] | NightBird: | hey... |
| [22:58:00] | NightBird: | myth-setup is working... |
| [22:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | What was wrong ? |
| [22:59:00] | NightBird: | I had to put that file in |
| [22:59:00] | NightBird: | once I found the mc.sql or whatever |
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| [23:05:00] | ** NightBird needs to sign up for something so that I can get the listings.. ** | |
| [23:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | North America ? |
| [23:05:00] | NightBird: | yeah |
| [23:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | That would be zap2it : http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.3 |
| [23:06:00] | laga: | nice. |
| [23:06:00] | NightBird: | awesome |
| [23:07:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: why didn't you read the docs to me when i was isntalling my mythtv? i feel uncared for ;) |
| [23:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [23:07:00] | NightBird: | Certificate Code? |
| [23:07:00] | NightBird: | n/m |
| [23:09:00] | NightBird: | hm... |
| [23:09:00] | NightBird: | lets see.... how many hours do I play games a week... |
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| [23:10:00] | NightBird: | take out 8 hours for sleep.... a total of 15 because of classes... |
| [23:10:00] | NightBird: | 97 hours... |
| [23:12:00] | KillerBunny: | What about eatin, and touching the penis ? |
| [23:12:00] | NightBird: | I multitask |
| [23:12:00] | laga: | that's 'playing with himself' |
| [23:13:00] | ** NightBird sighs ** | |
| [23:13:00] | NightBird: | ok, so now I need to figure out how to setup things to connect to zap2it |
| [23:14:00] | laga: | stop complaining. zap2it gotta be the easist thing ever. |
| [23:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | Maybe you should consider reading the rest of the docs |
| [23:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | that's in there |
| [23:14:00] | NightBird: | ok ok |
| [23:15:00] | NightBird: | you have to understand, I've been trying to get this to work for several weeks now... |
| [23:15:00] | PatrickDK: | follow howto, every single line |
| [23:15:00] | PatrickDK: | don't jump around |
| [23:15:00] | PatrickDK: | works on first try |
| [23:16:00] | PatrickDK: | it only took me two days, and that includes compiling from source, everything, on a 800mhz p3 |
| [23:16:00] | NightBird: | well, the main problem was trying to figure out how to get s-video working |
| [23:16:00] | NightBird: | that and I'm a newbie to linux |
| [23:18:00] | NightBird: | awesome |
| [23:22:00] | NightBird: | hm... fill database will take awhile, won't it? |
| [23:22:00] | Raven_301: | PatrickDK: what howto are you referring to?? |
| [23:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | NightBird: the first time is the longest. I think around 5–10 minutes |
| [23:23:00] | ** NightBird waits then ** | |
| [23:24:00] | Raven_301: | NightBird: what howto was PatrickDK talking about?? |
| [23:25:00] | NightBird: | ? |
| [23:25:00] | NightBird: | oh |
| [23:25:00] | NightBird: | the official one |
| [23:25:00] | Raven_301: | NightBird: what linux you using |
| [23:26:00] | NightBird: | ubuntu |
| [23:26:00] | NightBird: | hm... |
| [23:26:00] | NightBird: | Connecting to backendserver failed.. |
| [23:26:00] | Raven_301: | thanks NightBird |
| [23:27:00] | PatrickDK: | did you run mythtv-setup? then mythbackend -d |
| [23:28:00] | NightBird: | hm... |
| [23:28:00] | NightBird: | ok, now what? |
| [23:28:00] | PatrickDK: | damnit, read the howto |
| [23:29:00] | PatrickDK: | that is why someone took their life to write it |
| [23:29:00] | laga: | right |
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| [23:31:00] | JamMini: | hi I'm trying to get an osx version of mythfrontend to run connected to a gentoo back end. its saying the server speaks a different version |
| [23:31:00] | JamMini: | it says the backend is version 18 |
| [23:31:00] | JamMini: | sorry |
| [23:31:00] | JamMini: | it says the front end is 18, and the backend is 15 |
| [23:32:00] | JamMini: | though afaik im running the latest build of myth back end |
| [23:32:00] | JamMini: | any ideas? |
| [23:32:00] | laga: | it's likely that your frontend is built from SVN. try to find a release build |
| [23:33:00] | JamMini: | its possible |
| [23:33:00] | JamMini: | thanks |
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| [23:36:00] | JamMini: | just out of interest, SVN? |
| [23:36:00] | JamMini: | is that a cvs style thing? |
| [23:36:00] | laga: | yep! |
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| [23:37:00] | shfhgedshgdf: | im getting an error it is myth cannot connect to X server anybody know how to fix this? |
| [23:37:00] | redf0x: | does anyone here use firewire for tv input, instead of a video capture card? |
| [23:38:00] | ** shfhgedshgdf slaps redf0x around a bit with a large trout ** | |
| [23:38:00] | redf0x: | lol |
| [23:38:00] | redf0x: | hey, if I can save $66 on a capture card... |
| [23:39:00] | shfhgedshgdf: | do u no how to fix the prob with mythtv cannot connect to x server? |
| [23:39:00] | redf0x: | nope I'm still building my myth box |
| [23:39:00] | redf0x: | if x is running, it might be a permissions issue |
| [23:41:00] | shfhgedshgdf: | im getting an error it is myth cannot connect to X server anybody know how to fix this??? |
| [23:48:00] | NightBird: | YES! |
| [23:48:00] | PatrickDK: | run an X server |
| [23:48:00] | NightBird: | a winner is I! |
| [23:48:00] | NightBird: | now I just need a way to listen to the program.. |
| [23:48:00] | PatrickDK: | redf0x, that only works for digital broadcast video |
| [23:49:00] | PatrickDK: | and if your using a cable box that will output firewire |
| [23:49:00] | PatrickDK: | not all output it |
| [23:49:00] | PatrickDK: | and even less output it unencrypted |
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| [23:49:00] | MrSpiffy: | yo |
| [23:49:00] | PatrickDK: | and if the channel you want to watch isn't digital, then your out of luck still |
| [23:50:00] | redf0x: | PatrickDK, an I see... have you tried it? |
| [23:50:00] | PatrickDK: | no, just read up[ on it alot |
| [23:50:00] | redf0x: | I still might call comcast and see if I can get a box anyways |
| [23:50:00] | PatrickDK: | I have no reson to pay the extra money for digital cable |
| [23:50:00] | redf0x: | I wonder if they will charge extra |
| [23:50:00] | PatrickDK: | when there are no channels on it I watch |
| [23:51:00] | redf0x: | I already have digital cable, it was that or sat |
| [23:51:00] | redf0x: | do you know if it is possible to change the channel over firewire, or will I still have to do an ir blaster? |
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| [23:54:00] | NightBird: | now all I need to do is figure out how to disable the obvious interlacing... |
| [23:54:00] | NightBird: | that and figure out where to plug in the speakers.. |
| [23:55:00] | NightBird: | ok, simple problem fixed.. |
| [23:55:00] | shfhgedshgdf: | im getting an error it is myth cannot connect to X server anybody know how to fix this????? |
| [23:56:00] | JamMini: | what window manager are you urnning? |
| [23:56:00] | shfhgedshgdf: | i dont no im new to this give me an example |
| [23:57:00] | JamMini: | what are you running that says it cant connec to the x server |
| [23:57:00] | JamMini: | ? |
| [23:57:00] | shfhgedshgdf: | xfree86 |
| [23:57:00] | JamMini: | well thats nothing to do with mythtv |
| [23:57:00] | JamMini: | if you cant get x working, then you wont get myth working |
| [23:58:00] | shfhgedshgdf: | well what can i do to get it working are there any tutorials? |
| [23:58:00] | JamMini: | www.xfree86.org |
| [23:58:00] | JamMini: | should have one |
| [23:58:00] | JamMini: | sorry, but its not really my area of expertise |
| [23:58:00] | shfhgedshgdf: | o |
| [23:58:00] | shfhgedshgdf: | thanks anyway |
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