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| [00:02:00] | MrSpiffy: | syle – first attempt |
| [00:02:00] | MrSpiffy: | GreyFoxx, thanks for that link man |
| [00:05:00] | MrSpiffy: | syle2, it seems to have ripped the vob |
| [00:06:00] | MrSpiffy: | syle2, 6.3G at good quality |
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| [00:07:00] | MrSpiffy: | transcode should take about a day |
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| [00:20:00] | ascii`: | I have a problem. when i try to run mythtv-setup, i get the setup screen up running, but then it freezes totally.is this a known bug or? |
| [00:20:00] | ascii`: | i have to restart my computer to regain controll off it:p |
| [00:20:00] | fatmatt: | is it freezin when you go to set up channels? |
| [00:21:00] | ascii`: | i don't come to that point.. |
| [00:21:00] | ascii`: | it freezes with the first question..i can move the menu up and down for like 2 seconds..then it freezes... |
| [00:22:00] | fatmatt: | where does it feeze? if your using the xmltv tv guude data (non-US) then it switches to the terminal you started it from to put in chan inf, maybe try alt-tab to get to the terminal |
| [00:23:00] | fatmatt: | whats the first question? the one about deleting/not deleting the chanel config? |
| [00:24:00] | ascii`: | i run 'mythtv-setup', and get the question "Would you like to clear all program data...", and before i can manage to answer anything, it freezes..can't move the cursor, can't use ALT + TAB.. |
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| [00:24:00] | ascii`: | sometimes i get thru the first question.. |
| [00:24:00] | syle2: | takes so damn long to switch songs |
| [00:24:00] | syle2: | in mythmusic |
| [00:24:00] | syle2: | anyway to speed it up |
| [00:24:00] | ascii`: | thats the deleting/not deleting the chanel congf.. |
| [00:24:00] | syle2: | i have about 15 thousand songs |
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| [00:25:00] | syle2: | crashes alot to |
| [00:27:00] | ascii`: | fatmatt, do u know what might be the problem? |
| [00:28:00] | fatmatt: | ascii`: not really sure, maybe something to do with the database as it'll be looking at that first, maybe check permissions, see if you can connect from terminal as mythtv user, failing that, are there any error messages in the terminal? maybe start mythtv-setup and point it at a log file |
| [00:29:00] | fatmatt: | something like "mythtv-setup > /home/mythtv/log" so if you reboot you can check for error messages |
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| [00:31:00] | ascii`: | fatmatt, this is wird..i started mythtv-setup from another compuer thru ssh, got no real big errors..got som "Conflict in /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/sqldrivers/libqsqlmysql-non-mt.so:", but nothing big..i also get "mythtv: could not connect to socket". i can connect to the mysql database with the mysql client.. |
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| [00:32:00] | ascii`: | but my mythbackend isn't running, is that normal? |
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| [00:33:00] | fatmatt: | try starting the backend, |
| [00:33:00] | ascii`: | "No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP.Please run setup on this machine and modify..." |
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| [00:34:00] | fatmatt: | okay, thats okay then |
| [00:34:00] | ascii`: | this is really wird.. |
| [00:34:00] | ascii`: | weird* |
| [00:35:00] | fatmatt: | mysql is running? |
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| [00:37:00] | ascii`: | yepp.. |
| [00:38:00] | ascii`: | can access the database with mysql client.. |
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| [00:40:00] | fatmatt: | maybe check /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt see if you've got correct database settings in there. Failing that, that plugin error didn't look good |
| [00:40:00] | ascii`: | it get connected to the database.. |
| [00:41:00] | fatmatt: | can you ssh in once it locks up? |
| [00:44:00] | ascii`: | yes.. |
| [00:44:00] | ascii`: | but i can't kill X for mythtv.. |
| [00:44:00] | fatmatt: | can you kill mythtv-setup? |
| [00:45:00] | fatmatt: | have you checked the mysql logs to see if theres something invalid there? |
| [00:49:00] | ascii`: | nothing unusual there.. |
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| [01:03:00] | ascii`: | i give up! |
| [01:04:00] | Krazylegz: | Yay! :-) |
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| [01:13:00] | syle2: | man mythmusic sucks |
| [01:13:00] | syle2: | damn segfaults |
| [01:13:00] | syle2: | fucking 16 year old that wrote winamp did a better job than this |
| [01:14:00] | Agrajag-: | use winamp then |
| [01:14:00] | ascii`: | syle2, i can't get mythtv to work at all, so stfu:p |
| [01:15:00] | syle2: | i question why you would want to |
| [01:15:00] | soi-disant: | to watch tv shows? |
| [01:16:00] | syle2: | i don;t feel sorry for you ascii |
| [01:16:00] | syle2: | took me a damn week straight to get mine up |
| [01:16:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | ascii: I'm unclear. Does your machine completely lock up? Can you press ALT-CONTROL-BACKSPACE when it locks up? Can you ssh into the machine when it locks up? |
| [01:17:00] | ascii`: | nuonguy_AFK, i can ssh inot it..but doesn't seem like the keyboard is working at all..no respons on any key, not even caps/num-lock.. |
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| [01:18:00] | syle2: | i just want to be able to rip any dvd i want personally and watch tv |
| [01:19:00] | syle2: | libdvdread is such a peice of shit |
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| [01:19:00] | syle2: | ascii what do you mean you can;t kill X |
| [01:20:00] | syle2: | how hard is it to type "init 3" |
| [01:20:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | ascii: That sounds like X/graphics-card/driver issues – what are you running? |
| [01:20:00] | ascii`: | syle2, very hard it seems.. |
| [01:21:00] | ascii`: | nuonguy_AFK, nvidia i think..2 sec.. |
| [01:21:00] | Agrajag-: | syle2: since when does init 3 kill X? |
| [01:21:00] | ascii`: | nvidia |
| [01:22:00] | syle2: | since the dark ages |
| [01:22:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | Anything interesting in /var/log/messages or dmesg or /var/log/X.0.log? |
| [01:22:00] | mocker: | agra: since init 3 is full system w/o X |
| [01:22:00] | syle2: | if X is broken i just alt-ctrl-F1 to terminal anyways |
| [01:23:00] | Agrajag-: | who says? |
| [01:23:00] | Agrajag-: | on debian it certainly isn't |
| [01:23:00] | syle2: | who cares about debian |
| [01:23:00] | syle2: | slackware redhat |
| [01:23:00] | syle2: | then freebsd |
| [01:23:00] | Agrajag-: | you're a tool syle2 |
| [01:23:00] | mocker: | Agra: Look up std init levels |
| [01:23:00] | ascii`: | syle2, doesn't work..hehe.. |
| [01:23:00] | Agrajag-: | mocker: oh? where? |
| [01:24:00] | ascii`: | nuonguy_AFK, nothing there..no errors or warnings.. |
| [01:24:00] | mocker: | google? |
| [01:24:00] | syle2: | tool, haven;t heard that since i met these pot smokers |
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| [01:24:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | Agrajag: What happens if you go to a terminal (e.g. CONTROL-ALT-F!) and then as root type 'init 3' – your X server keeps running? |
| [01:24:00] | mocker: | erp, dinner... |
| [01:24:00] | Agrajag-: | mocker: ok, i've tried, i can't find *anywhere* in any standards docs that says init 3 isn't meant to run X |
| [01:24:00] | syle2: | theres only one real way to kill X |
| [01:25:00] | syle2: | edit /etc/inittab take out the line |
| [01:25:00] | syle2: | init q |
| [01:25:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | Agrajag: What does the last line of your inittab look like? |
| [01:25:00] | mocker: | agra: im on my blackberry or id find a link... |
| [01:25:00] | mocker: | :) |
| [01:25:00] | syle2: | agra your a tool for running debian over freebsd |
| [01:26:00] | ascii`: | nuonguy_AFK, what drivers do u use? |
| [01:26:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | Oh now, that's not nice |
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| [01:26:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | Whatever came standard with xorg |
| [01:26:00] | Agrajag-: | syle2: yeah well funny how my machine actually works, and i spent about 1 hour getting myth setup, and you spent a *week* |
| [01:26:00] | syle2: | unlike you i didn;t run knoppmyth |
| [01:26:00] | Agrajag-: | mocker: trust me, there is no standard anywhere that says anything about what runlevels should run X |
| [01:27:00] | Agrajag-: | im not using knoppmyth you fool |
| [01:27:00] | syle2: | what distro is knopp |
| [01:27:00] | syle2: | debian right |
| [01:27:00] | Agrajag-: | no, it's not debian |
| [01:27:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | Agrajag: What does your /etc/inittab say about running X? It runs it something other than 5? |
| [01:27:00] | Agrajag-: | it's a debian derivative – that does _not_ make it debian |
| [01:28:00] | syle2: | agra i;m not having this discussion with you, if you can actually code a c program then you;d possibly be worth my time |
| [01:28:00] | Agrajag-: | nuonguy_AFK: it runs in whatever runlevels i tell it to, based on /etc/rc.N/ symlinks |
| [01:28:00] | Krazylegz: | I have KnoppMyth. Do I have to look something up for someone? |
| [01:28:00] | Agrajag-: | syle2: i code in C for a living |
| [01:28:00] | syle2: | do you |
| [01:28:00] | syle2: | then explain to me why pthreads are better than using fork |
| [01:29:00] | Agrajag-: | wtf? they're totally different? |
| [01:29:00] | Agrajag-: | you can't say one is better than another |
| [01:29:00] | Krazylegz: | Those are different.... |
| [01:29:00] | Agrajag-: | it depends on the situation |
| [01:29:00] | syle2: | newb c programmer |
| [01:29:00] | syle2: | whatever |
| [01:29:00] | Agrajag-: | that's like saying "why is a bus better than an aeroplane" |
| [01:30:00] | Agrajag-: | and i think you'll find, in *most* cases, you're better off using select() than threads |
| [01:30:00] | syle2: | select has njothing to do with threads omg |
| [01:30:00] | Chutt: | syle2, you really don't know what you're talking about, do you? |
| [01:30:00] | syle2: | select is a ,,ahh forget it |
| [01:30:00] | Krazylegz: | FITE. |
| [01:30:00] | Agrajag-: | err yes it does, you've just proven you're stupidity |
| [01:30:00] | Agrajag-: | your rather |
| [01:31:00] | Chutt: | syle2, if you want to stay in here, you need to clean up your act |
| [01:31:00] | syle2: | i don;t respond well to threats so do what you have to |
| [01:31:00] | Chutt: | i've _almost_ had enough crap |
| [01:31:00] | syle2: | i'm jnust stating facts is all |
| [01:31:00] | ** DarkBeer has had enough ** | |
| [01:31:00] | Chutt: | no, you're not |
| [01:31:00] | ascii`: | nuonguy_AFK, switched to the xorg nv drivers, and now mythtv-setup is running:p |
| [01:31:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | yay |
| [01:32:00] | Agrajag-: | syle2: read this and learn http://threading.2038bug.com/index.html |
| [01:32:00] | syle2: | at least he knows what google is |
| [01:32:00] | syle2: | keep learning agra |
| [01:32:00] | soi-disant: | that's good advice to anyone, anywhere, ever |
| [01:33:00] | Chutt: | threads are good for some things, separate processes for others, and keeping everything in one process and using select is good for yet more stuff |
| [01:33:00] | Chutt: | none of them are 'better' |
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| [01:45:00] | Krazylegz: | I have a sweater I like but it has some loose pthreads. |
| [01:46:00] | Agrajag-: | heh |
| [01:46:00] | Krazylegz: | It has some fuzzies too. :-) |
| [01:46:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | I still haven't been able to get my myth setup to work completely, so I think I might try uninstalling all the myth stuff and then building right from SVN |
| [01:47:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | Cheap advice: Don't try to use the AverTV GO 007 FM card |
| [01:47:00] | Krazylegz: | You think the SVN will be more stable than the release? |
| [01:47:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | I don't know, but at least I might be able to hack it enough to get it to work |
| [01:47:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | The problem I have is that changing channels mucks with my audio |
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| [01:48:00] | Chutt: | what kernel? |
| [01:48:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | I have to invoke umix Line2 R /dev/mixer1; umix Video R /dev/mixer1 after every channel change to get my Live TV audio to work |
| [01:48:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | 2.6.12.somethingorother |
| [01:48:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | FC4 |
| [01:48:00] | Chutt: | ah, not that issue, then |
| [01:49:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah. Well, SVN could help, and if it doesn't, it shouldn't be too hard to go back to .18? |
| [01:49:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | Right |
| [01:50:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | I've done the setup often enough, that should only take a coupla minutes :-( |
| [01:50:00] | Krazylegz: | I'm just talking to myself. Don't mind me. |
| [01:50:00] | Krazylegz: | Er, that time I wasn't talking to myself. Crap. |
| [01:54:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | I followed this guy's FC4 instructions: but he has instructions for stuff that seem unnecessary |
| [01:54:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | Like his modprobe.conf stuff is completely handled during the installer |
| [01:54:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | And I don't understand the .asoundrc stuff at all |
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| [01:58:00] | ascii`: | how to tar only . folder/files ? |
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| [02:08:00] | simcop2387: | i'm going to make a mythtv dvd burner, with the ability to automate burning of recorded shows |
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| [02:09:00] | simcop2387: | autogenerate menus for dvd author and have themable disks |
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| [02:36:00] | pfn: | does mythtv have functionality like that of slingbox? |
| [02:37:00] | mr-david: | have an hdtv antenna question. I get good reception on some channels with the antenna in one position and good reception for the others with the antenna moved to a second position. is it possible to run two antennas in parallel? Will it solve my problem? |
| [02:38:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | what's slingbox? |
| [02:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | pfn: How about you be a little more specific on what functions you are referring to :) |
| [02:38:00] | pfn: | slingbox is a tv-to-net stb |
| [02:39:00] | pfn: | basically allows you to watch any tv source you have connected to it via a piece of software (currently windows-only) |
| [02:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | sounds pretty much like mythtv |
| [02:39:00] | pfn: | allows you to watch and control (timeshift, live, etc) |
| [02:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [02:39:00] | mr-david: | any hd heads here? |
| [02:39:00] | pfn: | so I can watch live tv from a mythtv box from any client? |
| [02:39:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | I think the answer (with some caveats regarding setup and config) is yes, but I think your problem is going to be bandwidth |
| [02:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm watching livetv off my machyine in the basement right now |
| [02:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | pfn: that depends on what you mean by any client. if you mean a ny client software no |
| [02:40:00] | pfn: | then what clients does it support? |
| [02:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | itself |
| [02:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythbackend handles the capture portion |
| [02:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythfrontend talks to the backend and plays back the stream |
| [02:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | now if you have a hardware encoding capture card like a pvr 150/250 then the captures are in mpeg2 and can be played by anything that can read the files over the network |
| [02:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | there is also a winmyth client but that's not part of the official source tree |
| [02:43:00] | pfn: | so does mythbackend require X? |
| [02:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can use mythstreamtv to stream to a remote computer over the net if you want to say watch something while at work streamed from home |
| [02:43:00] | Agrajag-: | it requires qt and x libs |
| [02:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's linked against QT, not sure if it really "needs" X or not. But by default it is linked to it |
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| [02:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | x doesn't have to be running, just libraries available |
| [02:44:00] | pfn: | I don't care about the libraries so much |
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| [02:45:00] | pfn: | mostly I don't want to run an X server on my box as it's headless |
| [02:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | If it's just the backend there is no need to actually run X |
| [02:46:00] | patch: | Can someone help me. I run mythfilldatabase , but I get Authorization failed. I can log in to the site with the exact same username and password. Anyone know whats wrong? |
| [02:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | patch: I'd suspect you entered the info incorrect in mythtv-setup |
| [02:47:00] | patch: | I didnt |
| [02:47:00] | patch: | its exactly the same as what i use for the site. |
| [02:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | no spaces before or after it right ? |
| [02:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Are the logins to zap2it case sensitive for the username as well as the password ? |
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| [02:49:00] | pfn: | so mythtv can stream live tv? |
| [02:49:00] | patch: | GreyFoxx: it may be case sensative , but I capitalize what I should. |
| [02:49:00] | patch: | GreyFoxx: its exactly the same username and pass |
| [02:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | pfn: Yes |
| [02:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | Like I said, I'm streaming live tv (to my television) from my basement backend right now |
| [02:50:00] | pfn: | interesting, I'll have to look into installing it, then |
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| [02:50:00] | pfn: | my wife wants to watch tv, but not in front of the projector all day |
| [02:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've got 4 frontends arounde the house that all stream livetv/recordings from the backend in the basement |
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| [02:52:00] | patch: | GreyFoxx : I just logged in again at http://labs.zap2it.com/ and I had no problem. |
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| [02:52:00] | pfn: | so I'll have to look at this winmyth client then |
| [02:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | pfn: I looked at it once when it first came out. I have no idea if it's any good or not |
| [02:52:00] | pfn: | oh, does mythtv absolutely have to run with mysql? I refuse to install it on my box |
| [02:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes, it does |
| [02:52:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | pfn: why? |
| [02:52:00] | pfn: | ugh, mysql is garbage.... |
| [02:53:00] | patch: | Unknown authentication scheme. |
| [02:53:00] | patch: | Authorization failed. |
| [02:53:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | I don't know about that, but either way, what else are you gonna use? |
| [02:53:00] | patch: | when running mythfilldatabase |
| [02:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | there are efforts by some people to support others (postgres) but nothing I've seen commited |
| [02:53:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | I wish that for config options, settings were just stored in a flat file |
| [02:53:00] | patch: | anyone have any ideas? |
| [02:54:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | patch: Did you just set up the account? |
| [02:54:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | patch: Do you have a firewall system in your home network? |
| [02:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | patch: Not really. I'd try packet sniffing the tgraffic to verify what is being sent |
| [02:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | and maybe check www.mythtv.org or the mailing list archives |
| [02:55:00] | patch: | nuonguy_AFK: No I already had it and extended the subscription. And as to the firewall none that I am aware of. |
| [02:55:00] | Chutt: | proxy? |
| [02:56:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | I recall vaguely that my mythfilldatabase invocation got rejected a coupla times and then mysteriously started working... |
| [02:56:00] | patch: | no proxy |
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| [02:56:00] | Chutt: | broken wget? =) |
| [02:57:00] | patch: | nope wget is working fine. |
| [02:57:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | I fear that maybe zap2it's interface to clients is heavily loaded? |
| [02:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | if that was it we would get a lot more complaining here and on the mailing list :) |
| [02:57:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | Yeah, that's for sure. |
| [02:58:00] | nuonguy_AFK: | (Rolling my eyes in agreement) |
| [02:58:00] | patch: | mysql has to be running before I run mythfilldatabase right? |
| [02:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [02:59:00] | Chutt: | it wouldn't run if it weren't |
| [02:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | of course |
| [03:00:00] | patch: | I dont know if this information is revelant or not , but In my.cnf I had to set bind-address to 0.0.0.0 in order for mysqld to work. |
| [03:00:00] | patch: | mysqld is running now no problem |
| [03:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | well, depending on what interface you were trying to bind to that is not a problem |
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| [03:01:00] | syle2: | WinTV-PVR-500 have an IR interface for lirc? |
| [03:01:00] | patch: | I run client server on this same box. |
| [03:01:00] | syle2: | IR interface for a remote control |
| [03:01:00] | patch: | but mythfilldatabase still doesnt work. |
| [03:02:00] | Chutt: | syle2, go to hauppauge's website and find out. |
| [03:02:00] | patch: | Should I make another account at http://labs.zap2it.com/? |
| [03:02:00] | simcop2387: | mythtv plus hardware encoder kicks ASS |
| [03:02:00] | simcop2387: | i just got mine working today |
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| [03:02:00] | syle2: | umm i wouldn;t ask if i didn;t go there first |
| [03:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | patch: It makes more sense to find and fix your current problem. sniff the traffic to verify what it/'s sending, search the mailing list , search the docs at mythtv.org |
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| [03:03:00] | vividan: | hey guys, I have a fresh debian unstable install and I'm trying to get mythtv installed (frontend is enough). I'm following the advice of http://www-isl.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de/~hi93/my . . . _walkthrough . I'm getting uninstalable packages, can anyone help me? |
| [03:03:00] | Chutt: | syle2, so, you missed the page about the pvr-500, and the comparison chart? |
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| [03:04:00] | Agrajag-: | vividan: why are you using unstable? |
| [03:05:00] | vividan: | because stable is really old, and I've always run unstable (since before testing existed) |
| [03:05:00] | syle2: | looking at it now |
| [03:05:00] | syle2: | what about it? |
| [03:05:00] | vividan: | Agrajag-, the site I listed also advises it |
| [03:06:00] | Chutt: | uh |
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| [03:06:00] | Chutt: | the lack of a check on the 'remote control' line in the comparison chart |
| [03:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [03:06:00] | Chutt: | and the "Note: the WinTV-PVR-500 MCE does not come with a remote control or a software DVD decoder. If you are building Media Center systems, please check with Microsoft for a list of MCE certified remote controls and DVD decoders." |
| [03:06:00] | Chutt: | on the pvr-500 page |
| [03:07:00] | Chutt: | kind of difficult to spell it out more obviously than that |
| [03:07:00] | syle2: | and? |
| [03:07:00] | Agrajag-: | vividan: well, you're kinda asking for those kind of problems using unstable. and last i checked, stable is about 2 months old ("really old?") |
| [03:07:00] | Chutt: | and what? |
| [03:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | hahahahahahaha |
| [03:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahh I love it! |
| [03:07:00] | Agrajag-: | vividan: but anyway, what's the problem exactly? |
| [03:07:00] | syle2: | does not come with remote, does that mean has IR blaster |
| [03:07:00] | Chutt: | of course not |
| [03:08:00] | syle2: | ok well this is gay |
| [03:08:00] | syle2: | what do you recommend for one |
| [03:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's happy ? |
| [03:08:00] | Chutt: | it's happy happy happy |
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| [03:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [03:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | happy happy joy joy |
| [03:10:00] | vividan: | Agrajag-, myth-frontend attempts to install libmyth and libqt3c102 which refuse to install |
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| [03:10:00] | vividan: | Agrajag-, attempting to install them reports more packages that refuse to install |
| [03:11:00] | Agrajag-: | vividan: well, that's what you get for using unstable, i can't really help you there |
| [03:11:00] | Chutt: | debian unstable's busted wrt c++ |
| [03:11:00] | vividan: | Agrajag-, you are doing mythtv .18–1 in stable? |
| [03:11:00] | Agrajag-: | nah testing |
| [03:12:00] | Agrajag-: | i compiled myth from source though |
| [03:12:00] | Agrajag-: | but im sure it would work in stable no worries |
| [03:12:00] | vividan: | ah, I'm moving back from gentoo because I'm sick of compiling :) |
| [03:12:00] | Agrajag-: | ahahah what? |
| [03:12:00] | Chutt: | use ubuntu |
| [03:12:00] | Agrajag-: | you're not serious are you? |
| [03:13:00] | Chutt: | it's debian without the suck |
| [03:13:00] | vividan: | I went directly to ubuntu after gentoo, I was unhappy with it |
| [03:14:00] | patch: | Im happy with gentoo. |
| [03:14:00] | kslater: | I'm happy with Redhat 9 |
| [03:14:00] | ** kslater ducking ** | |
| [03:14:00] | Agrajag-: | great, we're one big happy family |
| [03:14:00] | vividan: | hehe |
| [03:15:00] | ** GreyFoxx is happy with ******* Distro ** | |
| [03:15:00] | patch: | Im not so happy with mythfilldatabase =/ |
| [03:16:00] | kslater: | patch: what's up with mythfilldatabase? |
| [03:16:00] | vividan: | My database is all kinds of messed up, but thats not what I'm worried about now :) |
| [03:16:00] | patch: | kslater: authorization failed. |
| [03:16:00] | patch: | kslater: then it just stops. |
| [03:17:00] | kslater: | oh. mysql expert I'm not |
| [03:17:00] | kslater: | more of a pgsql or oracle guy |
| [03:17:00] | patch: | ah |
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| [03:17:00] | kslater: | I've always been able to find enough on the web to get the authorization working tho |
| [03:18:00] | Chutt: | where exactly does it say 'authorization failed'? |
| [03:19:00] | _Nero_: | Anyone here familiar with theme format stuff?? |
| [03:19:00] | patch: | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Unauthorized |
| [03:19:00] | patch: | Unknown authentication scheme. |
| [03:19:00] | patch: | Authorization failed. |
| [03:19:00] | patch: | Chutt: right after I run mythfilldatabase |
| [03:20:00] | Chutt: | right, i was looking for that first line |
| [03:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | patch: Is it actually stopping at that ppint ? |
| [03:21:00] | xris: | Chutt: isn't that just the first attempt, and then shouldn't it try again with the auth info? |
| [03:21:00] | patch: | Chutt: does that help you any? |
| [03:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | I always get a 401 and then it carries on |
| [03:21:00] | patch: | GreyFoxx: nope |
| [03:21:00] | kslater: | me also |
| [03:21:00] | Chutt: | no, the 'Unknown authentication scheme' means it's from wget |
| [03:21:00] | patch: | it stops at Grab complete. Actual data from |
| [03:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | nope what. Is it stopping or continuing ? |
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| [03:21:00] | Chutt: | so, wget's not understanding the server |
| [03:22:00] | Chutt: | it's not mythfilldatabase that's printing that message |
| [03:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | just ok, I didn't even clue in to the unknown auth scheme line |
| [03:22:00] | xris: | patch: it will ALWAYS get that 401 error on the first try... that's what tells wget to try again a second time with the auth info. |
| [03:22:00] | patch: | so my version of wget is outdated? |
| [03:22:00] | xris: | patch: what version is it? |
| [03:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | what version are you running ? |
| [03:22:00] | patch: | Wget 1.10 |
| [03:23:00] | Chutt: | or it was compiled without something it needs |
| [03:23:00] | xris: | odd, should only need 1.9 |
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| [03:27:00] | patch: | hmm |
| [03:28:00] | jemarcks: | I am building a frontend only box and I need a IR remote for it and the IR receiver. What is everybody using for that these days? |
| [03:29:00] | vividan: | I'm interested in that too, I havn't been happy with the remote system that came with my pvr250 |
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| [03:32:00] | Cromz: | probilly home built ir reciever. :P |
| [03:32:00] | blh: | i have a p4 2.4ghz, 256mb pc3200, and a pvr 250.. and i am thinking about adding another pvr 250 to the system.. will that be a problem since i only have 256mb of pc3200? |
| [03:33:00] | NightMonkey: | patch: Why are you running wget 1.10? |
| [03:34:00] | Chutt: | 1.10 works fine |
| [03:34:00] | NightMonkey: | patch: Any particular reason? |
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| [03:34:00] | Chutt: | and is the second to newest version of wget |
| [03:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | blh: That is more than enough ram |
| [03:35:00] | NightMonkey: | patch: And, since you are running Gentoo, can you post what "emerge -pv wget" shows for active USE flags? |
| [03:36:00] | blh: | GreyFoxx: there wont be any deterioration of quality from tied up resources? |
| [03:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | blh: no |
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| [03:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | the 250 uses basically no system cpu or ram |
| [03:36:00] | NightMonkey: | Guess he's watching tv now. |
| [03:38:00] | blh: | GreyFoxx: how high should i be able to bump up the quality of the recording (bit rate, etc....), with 2 pvr 250's, and the above mentioned hardware? |
| [03:38:00] | NightMonkey: | patch: Alive? |
| [03:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | blh: as high as you like. Just keep turning it up until you don't notice any improvements |
| [03:40:00] | blh: | GreyFoxx: see, i setup a myth box about a year or so ago, and i had it running on a 667mhz cele, 192mb of ram, and the pvr 250.. and the quality of the recordings would not be bright and crisp, and bumping the bit rate up made the system run all messed up, jerky, etc.., but i would not have these problems with the above hardware previously mentioned.. the recordings will look like they did when they were originally broadcast? |
| [03:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | well with that low a cpu playback could be an issue. With what you mentioned a moment ago it's not a a problem |
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| [03:42:00] | blh: | GreyFoxx: so the recordings will look like they did when the show was originally broadcast? |
| [03:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | blh: that would depend on the quality of your TV out |
| [03:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | and the bitrate |
| [03:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | and of course you have to remember you are doing an analog recording, so it's not going to be "identical" |
| [03:45:00] | blh: | so it will be more like a vcr recording? |
| [03:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | much better than a vcr, but like I said it's not a digital recording so there is the potential for loss. |
| [03:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | in my experience recording through my 250's look better than directly into the tv (tv has a crappy tuner) |
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| [03:46:00] | blh: | but with the hardware i mentioned above, i should have no problems with recording quality, and recording and watching live tv, etc... will all be quality recordings? |
| [03:47:00] | The_Ball: | GreyFoxx, does the 250's give you a coded mpeg stream? |
| [03:47:00] | jemarcks: | I have a old 700mhz duron that i use for my frontend only box... during playback or livetv, the cpu is at 70% and the load is 1.6. is there any way to get that down. I have a GF4 MX4000 video card. |
| [03:47:00] | Chutt: | jemarcks, no |
| [03:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | The_Ball: What do you mean by a coded stream? It's an mpeg stream yes |
| [03:47:00] | jemarcks: | hmm |
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| [03:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | blh: There are too many factors to say. If your signal sucks the recordings will suck. If the bitrate is too low then the picture will look crappy. If the TV out sucks then anything will look crappy |
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| [03:49:00] | jemarcks: | vividan, i have a pvr150 and the remote it came with... works great. |
| [03:49:00] | MajestiK: | Does anyone know if there's a current issue with the debian packages for mythtv? like I can't install them.. missing dependancy on libqt3c102-mt in unstable |
| [03:50:00] | Chutt: | unstable's broken for c++ stuff |
| [03:50:00] | Agrajag-: | i don't understand how people can use unstable, then wonder why something doesn't work |
| [03:50:00] | jemarcks: | Indeed |
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| [03:51:00] | MajestiK: | Agrajag-: I can wonder.. I can't demand that it's fixed though.. |
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| [03:52:00] | blh: | any recommendations which 250 to get? model 975, or 980? |
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| [03:53:00] | jemarcks: | I cant say. |
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| [03:57:00] | jemarcks: | Rats! The cooling fan is dieing on my duron cpu. Had to shut down the box. |
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| [04:01:00] | alexjh: | hello, I'm wondering how I can build a debug version of mythtv |
| [04:01:00] | alexjh: | I've downloaded 0.18.1 from mythtv.org and tried to build according to the instructions, but it bails out with an error almost immediately |
| [04:01:00] | alexjh: | common.h:61: error: array type has incomplete element type |
| [04:01:00] | blh: | GreyFoxx: do you know what model number 250 you are using? |
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| [04:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | blh: Nope. I've got 3 different ones :) |
| [04:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | A FreeStyle, a MCE, and a retail one :) |
| [04:03:00] | blh: | GreyFoxx: so they should all work? |
| [04:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | blh: I've had no problems with them |
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| [04:07:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx |
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| [04:07:00] | CyberKnet: | I have an email that might interest you. |
| [04:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | oh ? |
| [04:07:00] | CyberKnet: | from the founder & CEO of niveus |
| [04:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | cool, forward it on greg AT phaze DOT org |
| [04:08:00] | CyberKnet: | I was surprised to get an email from their CEO |
| [04:08:00] | CyberKnet: | I just emailed them letting them know the Myth community loved their PC remote |
| [04:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [04:08:00] | CyberKnet: | no plans right now to start producing it again unfortunately |
| [04:09:00] | CyberKnet: | not enough capital, I guess. |
| [04:09:00] | CyberKnet: | other parts of their biz that are more lucrative. |
| [04:09:00] | CyberKnet: | =( |
| [04:09:00] | _Nero_: | speaking of remotes- anyone know if the new logitech remote works with linux? |
| [04:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | CyberKnet: suckage |
| [04:09:00] | jemarcks: | whats the best IR keyboard to use with Myth? |
| [04:09:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: Yeah. that was an awesome remote. |
| [04:10:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: I dont think they even realized they *had* a linux market. |
| [04:10:00] | Agrajag-: | greatly offtopic, but does anyone happen to know about how much power an average laptop uses? in watts? |
| [04:10:00] | CyberKnet: | Agrajag: depends on the cpu. |
| [04:10:00] | _Nero_: | jemarcks- I have an old PS2 keyboard taht does the job fine.. |
| [04:10:00] | _Nero_: | has a little thumb mouse on it too. |
| [04:10:00] | CyberKnet: | Agrajag-: Mine will operate on under 65 |
| [04:10:00] | Agrajag-: | what sort of cpu is that? |
| [04:10:00] | CyberKnet: | Agrajag-: Mobile Athlon64 |
| [04:11:00] | jemarcks: | agrajag, it depends on what its doing and what power management is in effect... also how bright the screen is set to. |
| [04:11:00] | cisox: | I have a Hauppauge PVR-500MCE and am running the latest version of MythTV on Gentoo Linux. I am not sure exactly how the card should be setup in MythTV, but I have built the ivtv modules for the card and all seems to work there. I have two questions, firstly is that whenever I try to access the tuner, meaning "Watch TV" or cat /dev/video0, my machine just reboots. |
| [04:11:00] | jemarcks: | _Nero_, is it a IR or a wired version? |
| [04:11:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: the email should arrive shortly from knet at cyberknet dot net |
| [04:11:00] | cisox: | Any ideas as to why this might happen? |
| [04:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | cool |
| [04:11:00] | _Nero_: | jemarcks- IR.. |
| [04:11:00] | Agrajag-: | jemarcks: yeah.. i just need an average around about figure |
| [04:11:00] | _Nero_: | hold on.. lemme see if I can find what kind it is. |
| [04:12:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: Yep. anyways, I'm off.. just wanted to pass that email on to you since you did the modification of ati_remote to work with their remote. |
| [04:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | Thanks :) |
| [04:13:00] | jemarcks: | agrajag-, well my IBM thinkpad T42p has a power adapter that outputs 16v@4.5A so its less than that depending on what your doing. :D |
| [04:13:00] | Agrajag-: | ok, ta |
| [04:13:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: if nothing else it's a good email address to try to get specs from if they release a similar but incompatible product. |
| [04:13:00] | vividan: | Agrajag-, I moved back to debian stable and it installed without any real issues |
| [04:14:00] | _Nero_: | jemarcks- http://shop.store.yahoo.com/pctekonline/skcomwirkeyw.html <--- is the one I have.. its dirt cheap but works well.. |
| [04:14:00] | Agrajag-: | cool. testing is generally ok to use too if you need newer stuff |
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| [04:15:00] | jemarcks: | thx |
| [04:15:00] | vividan: | Agrajag-, for this box Im' only really interested in mythtv, and openmosix |
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| [04:16:00] | _Nero_: | jemarcks- I have no idea about that retailler.. that was one of the few places I could find it in a google search so ymmv.. |
| [04:17:00] | jemarcks: | _Nero_, cook keyboard. You got it working with Myth? Can you email me your Lircrc? |
| [04:18:00] | _Nero_: | jemarcks- it has its own ps2 reciever- no need to use lirc with it.. it uses native PS2 keyboard drivers.. |
| [04:18:00] | jemarcks: | oh duh! ok |
| [04:19:00] | jemarcks: | _Nero_, but I will also need a remote to 'surf' my recordings with. |
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| [04:20:00] | _Nero_: | yeah- I have the keyboard for heavy stuff, and then just a universal remote, with a homebuilt lirc receiver. |
| [04:20:00] | jemarcks: | _nero_, ah... i need a lirc receiver and its hard to find time to build my own... im shopping for a good one. |
| [04:21:00] | _Nero_: | but, if you have a signal learning remote, you can just point the remote at the keyboard, and learn the keystrokes.. |
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| [04:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | _Nero_: I do just that with one of my frontends |
| [04:22:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: What version of ivtv have you installed? |
| [04:23:00] | cisox: | NightMonkey: I have 0.2.0-rc3k |
| [04:23:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: Not from Portage? |
| [04:24:00] | _Nero_: | is anyone running mythtv on Fedora Core4 yet? |
| [04:24:00] | cisox: | NightMonkey: I was planning on getting it from portage, but then had some issues so I tried this version. |
| [04:24:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: Mine is from Portage. Works great. Give it a shot. What kernel are you running? |
| [04:24:00] | cisox: | NightMonkey: Do you suggest I go with the portage version? |
| [04:25:00] | cisox: | NightMonkey: 2.6.12-gentoo-r10 |
| [04:25:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: I'm using ivtv with my PVR-350, but you may be better off with Portage – just give it a shot. |
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| [04:26:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: And make sure your modules.conf stuffs is very stripped down. No need for lots of options. |
| [04:26:00] | cisox: | NightMonkey: I am pretty sure I don't have any options set |
| [04:26:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: Cool. Make sure to remove all traces of your custom installed ivtv. |
| [04:26:00] | cisox: | Inded |
| [04:27:00] | EruditeHermit: | hi, when I run mythtv-setup, and try to configure my card, I get Audio Device: None. If I change it and go back, it goes back to none |
| [04:27:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: In fact, to facilitate that, you might want to rebuild a fresh kernel + modules tree. |
| [04:27:00] | EruditeHermit: | can anyone help? |
| [04:27:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: But, that's just a suggestion. |
| [04:27:00] | cisox: | NightMonkey: I will see how this goes first |
| [04:27:00] | EruditeHermit: | Actually, I am unable to get sound with my mythtv setup so if anyone can help with that, i'd appreciate it |
| [04:27:00] | alexjh: | EruditeHermit: are you able to get any sound out? ie play a wav file? |
| [04:27:00] | EruditeHermit: | alexjh: yes |
| [04:28:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: Make sure to move the msp3400.so from the _kernel tree_ out of the way once you install ivtv. |
| [04:28:00] | EruditeHermit: | alexjh: not with myth, but with other apps such as tvtime, xine etc |
| [04:28:00] | alexjh: | ls -l /dev/dsp |
| [04:28:00] | alexjh: | what does that give you? |
| [04:28:00] | cisox: | NightMonkey: I don't think I have it compiled in or moduled in, what option is it in the kernel? |
| [04:28:00] | EruditeHermit: | alexjh: no such file or directory, but I am using ALSA |
| [04:29:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: One sec, let me look that up (been a while since i messed with my kernel .config there). |
| [04:29:00] | cisox: | NightMonkey: Also, how do you suggest I setup MythTV with the PVR-500 and what is VBI? |
| [04:29:00] | blh: | is it normal for there to be a long delay when changing channels? |
| [04:29:00] | alexjh: | yes |
| [04:29:00] | alexjh: | it needs to rebuffer |
| [04:32:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: (Still looking up what triggers msp3400.so building). VBI is teletext, or Closed Captioning. It is a stream for text to display along with video. |
| [04:32:00] | EruditeHermit: | alexjh: any ideas? |
| [04:32:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: Still being fixed in ivtv. Don't enable it for now. |
| [04:32:00] | cisox: | NightMonkey: Thanks alot btw |
| [04:33:00] | cisox: | NightMonkey: So I should select MPEG2 Encoder when I setup my tuners in MythTV? |
| [04:35:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: Yes. |
| [04:35:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: So, I *think* this is it: "Conexant 2388x (bt878 successor) support" under "Video for Linux" config in menuconfig. |
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| [04:36:00] | simcop2387: | well i can now attempt to help with pvr150's! mines working fine :) |
| [04:37:00] | NightMonkey: | Now, I *think* that you need to configure this so that the proper kernel API hooks are in place for ivtv to work with. Then, once you install ivtv, you replace in-kernel modules with ivtv. I think the ebuilds have instructions for that, too. |
| [04:37:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: ^^^ |
| [04:37:00] | alexjh: | EruditeHermit: no, sorry |
| [04:37:00] | alexjh: | I'm actually using alsa as well, and I set my audio device to 'default' but it saves the option |
| [04:38:00] | EruditeHermit: | alexjh: what sound card do you have? |
| [04:38:00] | alexjh: | ati ixp |
| [04:38:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: You might also get some help by reading this: http://www.bitbenderforums.com/~ralpha6/knopp . . . ppmythtv.htm |
| [04:38:00] | EruditeHermit: | ah |
| [04:38:00] | alexjh: | onboard my pundit-r |
| [04:38:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: Even though it is for KnoppMyth, the MythTV stuffs look right. |
| [04:38:00] | EruditeHermit: | alexjh: are there any docs for getting an audigy2 working with myth? |
| [04:39:00] | alexjh: | haven't seen any but that doesn't mean they don't exist :) |
| [04:39:00] | EruditeHermit: | setting up sound in myth is a pain |
| [04:40:00] | cisox: | NightMonkey: Awesome, thanks for the help. I am going to try it out and I will let you know the outcome |
| [04:40:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: I don't have a PVR-500, so someone with direct experience might help you more than I can. But, with Gentoo, you should first try what the devs have laid down for you first, then, reluctantly, go around Portage. Or, better yet, make a new ebuild codifying your discoveries ;). |
| [04:41:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: Did you have Video for Linux set up in your kernel? |
| [04:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | EruditeHermit: What problems are you having ? |
| [04:42:00] | cisox: | NightMonkey: Yes, the IVTV stuff seems to work fine, it just reboots my machine when I go to actually capture anything from the tuners |
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| [04:43:00] | EruditeHermit: | GreyFoxx: I am unable to get sound to work with mythtv |
| [04:43:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: Good luck. |
| [04:43:00] | EruditeHermit: | GreyFoxx: also, when I change channel, mythbackend crashes |
| [04:43:00] | EruditeHermit: | GreyFoxx: but lets try to get sound to work first =) |
| [04:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | EruditeHermit: What are your sound device/mixer set to ? |
| [04:43:00] | cisox: | NightMonkey: Also, one more question not pertaining to my PVR issue, when I go to setup for the music and such for MythTV, it just acts like there is nothing to configure and doesn't take me anywhere, any idea why this would happen? |
| [04:43:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: When you are ready to tear your hair out, you might try #ivtv-dev. Quiet channel, but sometimes helpful. |
| [04:44:00] | EruditeHermit: | GreyFoxx: in mythtv-setup, I try to set it to default, but it doesn't remember the setting and when I go back it says None |
| [04:44:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: Hmm... Are you using mythmusic ebuild? |
| [04:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | EruditeHermit: In mythfrontend settings, under General |
| [04:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | what are in ther e? |
| [04:44:00] | EruditeHermit: | GreyFoxx: in mythfrontend, it is set to ALSA:default and the mixer is default |
| [04:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | And you are using alsa I assume? That should do it |
| [04:45:00] | cisox: | NightMonkey: I used all of the myth ebuilds, it seems like several modules just aren't really working like they should. |
| [04:45:00] | EruditeHermit: | GreyFoxx: yes my machine is using ALSA |
| [04:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | unless you have customized your alsa config to use some other name |
| [04:45:00] | EruditeHermit: | GreyFoxx: nope |
| [04:45:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: But, there is a "Music Settings" under "Setup"? |
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| [04:46:00] | cisox: | NightMonkey: There is that menu option, but it doesn't go anywhere. |
| [04:46:00] | EruditeHermit: | GreyFoxx: I get sound now, but it is not in sync with the video. I think its the sound directly from the TV card and it is not delayed to match the buffered mpeg video |
| [04:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | EruditeHermit: Using a software encoding card ? |
| [04:47:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: Hmm... That's odd. What guide(s) are you using to set up your box? |
| [04:47:00] | EruditeHermit: | GreyFoxx: yes |
| [04:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | then yeah, you are hearing it raw from the tuner |
| [04:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | you need to do some sort of mixer settings with one of those |
| [04:48:00] | cisox: | NightMonkey: Mostly just the IVTV wiki stuff. I was trying to find documentation but got hung up on this. Any suggestions? |
| [04:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Check out this : http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-7.html |
| [04:49:00] | cisox: | Thanks |
| [04:50:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: Well, of course mythtv.org/docs. Unfortunately, the guide I used to setup my box is woefully out of date, but you might check the Gentoo Forums for new info, too. |
| [04:50:00] | EruditeHermit: | GreyFoxx: yeah, I followed that, but it still doesn't work |
| [04:51:00] | EruditeHermit: | GreyFoxx: my sound card has 100s of those mixer settings |
| [04:52:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: And you know about gossamer-threads, right? |
| [04:53:00] | cisox: | NightMonkey: I have stumbled on them I think, but feel free to enlighten me. |
| [04:54:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: http://gossamer-threads.org/lists – has nicely webified searchable archives for ivtv* and mythtv* mailing lists. |
| [04:55:00] | cisox: | NightMonkey: Actually I was already on that page :) |
| [04:56:00] | cisox: | NightMonkey: I checked the dmesg on the IVTV load and it says it can't load the modules, tuner, cx25840, and wm8775 |
| [04:56:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: Ack, I see that on the ivtv wiki the PVR-500 is only supported in the devel branch, apparently. :( Dunno how up to date that is. |
| [04:56:00] | cisox: | NightMonkey: The devel branch of IVTV eh? Hmm... |
| [04:57:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: Hmm... Did you install all of the modules? |
| [04:58:00] | cisox: | NightMonkey: I just emerged ivtv |
| [05:00:00] | cisox: | NightMonkey: I am installing the development version of IVTV right now. |
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| [05:02:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: Here's the Gentoo Wiki MythTV stuff: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV |
| [05:02:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: Dunno how reliable it is, tested, etc. etc. |
| [05:03:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: Here's a forum thread on the PVR-500: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-373082-h . . . +pvr500.html |
| [05:05:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: Sorry I can't help you furhter. One thing I do that alot of people have found useful is to make sure you "modularize" your kernel install as much as is prudent (i.e. don't modularize your root filesystem drivers or your console drivers, etc.) |
| [05:06:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: Oh, here's an interesting thread: http://forum.byopvr.com/dvr/index.php/topic,3212.0.html |
| [05:06:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: PCI/IRQ hardware issue, perhaps? |
| [05:06:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: What's your chipset? |
| [05:08:00] | cisox: | NightMonkey: I have swapped the card to every PCI slot. I have a VIA chipset |
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| [05:12:00] | silly1: | hey guys does anyone know about filesystem issues? |
| [05:16:00] | EruditeHermit: | hey, mythbackend says NVR: AudioInit(): /dev/null : error setting audio input device to 44100kHz/16bits/2channel |
| [05:16:00] | EruditeHermit: | does that mean anything to anyone? |
| [05:16:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: Ah, looks like VIA is pretty flakey with this card – that's what I'm gathering. Gotta watch Andy Hertzfeld's interview – bbl. |
| [05:16:00] | NightMonkey: | cisox: Good luck! |
| [05:16:00] | cisox: | NightMonkey: Thanks for the help, later :) |
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| [05:26:00] | cosmo_: | I must say, I am very dissapointed with the incredible bugginess of the tv scheduling software that ati provides with its tuner cards |
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| [05:29:00] | EruditeHermit: | hey, does anyone here have an audigy2 soundcard working with mythv? |
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| [05:56:00] | simcop2387: | where's the option for changing the OSD theme for when watching tv again? |
| [05:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | under tv playback |
| [05:56:00] | simcop2387: | i must be blind bc i keep missing it... |
| [05:58:00] | simcop2387: | yep i'm blind |
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| [06:05:00] | blh: | anyone have any idea why when i use my nvidia geforce 4, it makes a yellowish ting on the right side of the tv? |
| [06:07:00] | blh: | my bad, its a geforce 2 mx400 |
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| [06:08:00] | travolta: | unshielded cheapo speakers? |
| [06:09:00] | blh: | nope, cant be, cause it doesnt happen when i just watch regular tv w/o the computer |
| [06:09:00] | blh: | but it does look like that though |
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| [06:10:00] | mouser25: | how do I set up auto commercial flaging? |
| [06:10:00] | mouser25: | like how I have auto transcode. |
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| [06:15:00] | mouser25: | ok it looks like it flaged the commercial but when it did the transcode it dident cut them ? |
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| [06:29:00] | mouser25: | how do I auto cut commericals? |
| [06:29:00] | blh: | anyone use an ati radeon 7500 for tv out? |
| [06:30:00] | vividan: | mouser25, the answer isn't so much to cut commercials |
| [06:30:00] | vividan: | mouser25, it's to automaticaly skip them |
| [06:31:00] | cosmo_: | anyone know how much longer we get to use our analogue cards before the fcc switches over? I thought it was just 2006? |
| [06:31:00] | mouser25: | vividan ok so what do I do to auto skip them? |
| [06:31:00] | mouser25: | vividan do I just tell it to detect while recording in setup ? |
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| [06:32:00] | vividan: | I forget where you set commercials to be automaticaly skipped |
| [06:32:00] | vividan: | s/skipped/flagged |
| [06:32:00] | mouser25: | vividan I have them set to auto flagg |
| [06:32:00] | vividan: | ok |
| [06:32:00] | vividan: | while watching: hit 'm' |
| [06:32:00] | mouser25: | ok |
| [06:32:00] | vividan: | select commercial auto-skip |
| [06:32:00] | mouser25: | ok |
| [06:32:00] | vividan: | then auto-skipp ON |
| [06:33:00] | mouser25: | but is that a global setting that will work for all of my recordings? |
| [06:33:00] | vividan: | I think so |
| [06:34:00] | blh: | no one uses a radeon card for tv out? |
| [06:34:00] | mouser25: | I dont have a auto-skip option |
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| [06:35:00] | mouser25: | vividan that works with a recording. I want it to just cut the commercials out so they dont take up space |
| [06:36:00] | vividan: | mouser25, I don't know how to do that, and I've seen many commercial flaggings go horrible |
| [06:36:00] | mouser25: | ok |
| [06:37:00] | vividan: | hard drive space is so cheap now I'm not sure it matters |
| [06:38:00] | mouser25: | vividan it does when all you have is 13GB for your video |
| [06:38:00] | vividan: | oh... yup |
| [06:39:00] | vividan: | how feasable is it to get more? |
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| [06:44:00] | cosmo_: | im rather limited with space. Is it possible to hardware encode mpg-1? Or do I have to heat cpu with transcode? |
| [06:44:00] | nuonguy: | I can get invoke 'umix -d /dev/mixer1' and umix brings up controls for mixer1 |
| [06:44:00] | nuonguy: | Why doesn't the equivelant alsamixer line work: 'alsamixer -D /dev/mixer1' ? |
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| [06:49:00] | Chutt: | because alsamixer works on alsa devices, and /dev/mixer1 is an oss device |
| [06:50:00] | nuonguy: | Well that makes sense |
| [06:50:00] | nuonguy: | I have to say, I don't understand enough about audio, linux-related or otherwise |
| [06:50:00] | nuonguy: | I need to do some ready |
| [06:50:00] | nuonguy: | Suggestions? |
| [06:55:00] | Agrajag-: | are you using alsa or oss? |
| [06:57:00] | nuonguy: | That's part of the problem |
| [06:57:00] | nuonguy: | I had to enable OSS on my card to get any audio to work |
| [06:57:00] | nuonguy: | It still stops working when I change channels |
| [06:58:00] | nuonguy: | To be clear: player DVDs always worked; Live TV audio didn't work until I enabled OSS and then I could at least manually setup my mixer devices to hear the TV until I change channels |
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| [07:06:00] | nuonguy: | Pop quiz hotshot: What does PCM stand for? |
| [07:07:00] | Agrajag-: | Plutonium Contaminated Material |
| [07:08:00] | Agrajag-: | :P |
| [07:08:00] | Agrajag-: | nah but it sounds like you have a screwy soundcard/driver |
| [07:09:00] | nuonguy: | Probably |
| [07:09:00] | nuonguy: | My google search to see if it was supported under v4l/mythtv was too cursory |
| [07:09:00] | nuonguy: | It's an AverTV GO FM 007 |
| [07:10:00] | nuonguy: | PCM: Personal Computer Manufacturer? |
| [07:10:00] | nuonguy: | http://www.totse.com/en/hack/introduction_to_ . . . rgacr8.html: Plug Compatible Manufacturer? |
| [07:11:00] | Agrajag-: | haha.. no |
| [07:12:00] | nuonguy: | http://linux.co.uk/manuals/dictionary/p.html: Pulse Code Modulation |
| [07:12:00] | nuonguy: | Seems most likely |
| [07:14:00] | nuonguy: | Must be getting late: I'm reading http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/ . . . dule=Generic and it's slow going |
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| [09:06:00] | xris: | scary |
| [09:06:00] | xris: | oops, wrong window. |
| [09:06:00] | xris: | 'night, all. |
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| [09:30:00] | The_Ball: | GreyFoxx, what i meant by coded was; is the video stream already compressed so the host doesn't have to process it before writing to disk? |
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| [11:26:00] | kazer_: | what's the best to use with pvr350? mpeg-ps or mpeg-ts ? |
| [11:28:00] | laga: | dvd-special 2? i hear that's what gets the most attention by hauppauge because it is what MCE uses |
| [11:33:00] | kazer_: | thanks laga :) |
| [11:33:00] | kazer_: | is that what you're using? |
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| [12:55:00] | Sneaker__: | I have 2.6.13 kernel installed and CVS build of dvb-kernel from last night. I am using Nebula with mt352. All seems to be fine until frontend initialization. I get dvb_dmx errno=-12 in the dmesg. Any ideas? |
| [12:56:00] | Sneaker__: | With CVS build from last week I got error message saying that driver for the frontend could not be found |
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| [13:44:00] | Sneaker__: | Anyone with working nebula&mt352 combination? |
| [13:44:00] | Sneaker__: | I would be intrested in your dvb-kernel & kernel versions |
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| [14:18:00] | monkeyBox: | Is it possible to stream mythtv over slower connections, eg 802.11b or the broadband internet? |
| [14:18:00] | laga: | look at the bitrate of your recording profiles and at the bitrate of your connection then |
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| [14:24:00] | syle2: | maybe you can enlighten us laga how to do that |
| [14:24:00] | monkeyBox: | hmmm... I see, so I have to record at a lower bitrate then, in order to accommodate? I don't know much about digital video, so I wasn't sure if there was any technology out there that could compress it "on-the-fly" so that it could be streamed over slower connections |
| [14:26:00] | syle2: | i thought the clients themselves buffered a certain amount before playing it to compensate for that |
| [14:26:00] | laga: | syle2: it's in the settings of the frontend. |
| [14:26:00] | laga: | monkeyBox: you might want to take a look at mythstreamtv |
| [14:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | syle: Yeah but that is for dealling with jitter or "jumpy" latency. If the bitrate is too high eventually the buffer runs out faster than it can be replenshed |
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| [14:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | monkeyBox: If your bitare isn't too high and you get a clean enough signal you can use 11b |
| [14:27:00] | laga: | 802.11b works well for my dvb-c recordings. sometimes. :) |
| [14:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | And if you want it over the internet I would suggest mythstreamtv as it will "transcode" on the fly to a lower bitrate/other media formate and stream that |
| [14:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythstreamtv uses vlc |
| [14:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use vlc to stream tons of stuff from home to my office here |
| [14:28:00] | syle2: | you pr0n collection? |
| [14:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | No, I preserve that for when I'm actually home :) |
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| [14:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/theme/mythvideosnap2.jpg |
| [14:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Note the th directory down :) |
| [14:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | 4th |
| [14:31:00] | syle2: | what kind of connection you got at home |
| [14:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cable modem |
| [14:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | Iwuv my cable modem :) |
| [14:32:00] | syle2: | eeks , upstream sucks on those |
| [14:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | Maybe on your ISP |
| [14:32:00] | syle2: | whats your up and down speeds? |
| [14:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | I get 10MBit down, 1MBit up. And I actually reach both regularly |
| [14:33:00] | syle2: | i'm getting ripped off lol |
| [14:33:00] | Goose-NPA: | GreyFoxx: what theme are you using? |
| [14:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | $44.95 CDN a month |
| [14:33:00] | monkeyBox: | GreyFoxx, Thanks! I'll check out mythstreamtv |
| [14:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | Goose-NPA: I started working on a Project Mayhem inspired custom one after the GF saw it and liked it |
| [14:34:00] | syle2: | does ADSL have that |
| [14:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | Have what ? |
| [14:35:00] | syle2: | i would wonder if your cable modem could be worn down by people downloading porn in your neighboorhood, i like dedicated lines |
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| [14:36:00] | syle2: | i didn;t know they offered good upstream rates like that |
| [14:36:00] | syle2: | where abouts are you? |
| [14:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | syle: the whole "dedicated line" crap is mostly a marketing ploy. Sure your line is "dedicated" back to the CO, but it's shared BW back to the main office and shared out to the net. |
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| [14:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | But yeah if your Cable ISP doesn't properly split nodes to keep the BW spread out it can be a problem |
| [14:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | syle: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada |
| [14:37:00] | syle2: | kewl |
| [14:37:00] | syle2: | i thought only women live out in maritimes |
| [14:37:00] | syle2: | no jobs |
| [14:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | Was that an attempt at an insult? |
| [14:37:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: you ever finish the 'myth in a thumbstick' |
| [14:37:00] | syle2: | so many friends of mine have storys how they get picked up at bars down there |
| [14:37:00] | laga: | sphing: thanks for mentioning it |
| [14:37:00] | ** laga hides ** | |
| [14:37:00] | syle2: | by women |
| [14:37:00] | syle2: | hehe |
| [14:38:00] | sphing: | did i open pandora's box |
| [14:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | syle: There are a lot of ladies, especially in the halifax bar scene :) |
| [14:38:00] | laga: | sphing: no dirty talk in here |
| [14:38:00] | syle2: | not an insult, a complement, if you can work with alot of ladies :) |
| [14:38:00] | sphing: | one of my professors was really interested in it |
| [14:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | and it's time for a new crop since University is starting |
| [14:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: I've just got to build the lirc package and it is ready |
| [14:38:00] | sphing: | ahhh ok |
| [14:39:00] | syle2: | thats where i am left to |
| [14:39:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: whoopee ;) |
| [14:39:00] | Sneaker__: | I have 2.6.13 kernel installed and CVS build of dvb-kernel from last night. I am using Nebula with mt352. All seems to be fine until frontend initialization. I get dvb_dmx errno=-12 in the dmesg. Any ideas? |
| [14:39:00] | syle2: | waiting for damn part to arrive |
| [14:39:00] | ** GreyFoxx looks at the code he wrote last night and figures he must have been half asleep while writing it ** | |
| [14:40:00] | ** GreyFoxx scraps it ** | |
| [14:40:00] | sphing: | haha... love those moments |
| [14:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [14:40:00] | sphing: | even better is looking at code you wrote years back |
| [14:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | dunno wtf I was thinking |
| [14:40:00] | sphing: | and you're like wow... what idiot wrote this... |
| [14:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: I love looking at my old stuff. I was a commenting maniac (which I preferred) but I'm too lazy now :( |
| [14:41:00] | syle2: | i hope you at least comment your functions |
| [14:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.bsdg.org/SWAG/MAIL/0020.PAS.html |
| [14:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Some of the old stuff heh |
| [14:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.bsdg.org/SWAG/STRINGS/0070.PAS.html |
| [14:42:00] | syle2: | omg pascal |
| [14:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe I love looking at this stuff |
| [14:42:00] | sphing: | never learned pascal |
| [14:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | TP was the sh*t |
| [14:42:00] | syle2: | omg i remember taking pascal in university way back when |
| [14:42:00] | syle2: | all c++ now |
| [14:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | Though I preferred Modula2 + ASM |
| [14:42:00] | laga: | they made me learn turbo pascal last year in CS class |
| [14:43:00] | sphing: | all we do here is java |
| [14:43:00] | sphing: | with some little C |
| [14:43:00] | syle2: | thats strange your last year should be electives like java asm etc |
| [14:43:00] | sphing: | and very little asm |
| [14:43:00] | laga: | syle2: it was like a starting point to delphi |
| [14:44:00] | syle2: | recursion in assembly, thats something noone misses |
| [14:44:00] | laga: | syle2: noo, not my last year, i mean back in 2004 ;) |
| [14:44:00] | sphing: | syle2: ugh... yes i kno |
| [14:45:00] | syle2: | what did you take for AI? |
| [14:45:00] | syle2: | they made me take prolog |
| [14:45:00] | sphing: | my asm was for my microcontrollers class |
| [14:45:00] | laga: | syle2: it's like a CS class inc ollege. |
| [14:46:00] | syle2: | i'm c challenged now, i lost 4 years of c code on a harddrive crash many years ago, have only done php and perl since |
| [14:46:00] | simcop2387: | where can i find info about making my own jobs to run on recordings? |
| [14:48:00] | syle2: | which is kewl, last perl program i wrote was about 2000 lines , would have taken me 10 thousand lines to do that in c hehe |
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| [14:52:00] | syle2: | i sure miss pthreads though |
| [14:58:00] | syle2: | so the napster computer science graduates wrote another program |
| [14:58:00] | syle2: | skype |
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| [15:05:00] | monkeyBox: | hmm.. Does Totem for gnome-2.10 play mms streams? |
| [15:13:00] | laga: | how does nuvexport handle recordings with multiple audio streams? |
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| [15:34:00] | sphing: | OT: doesn't anybody ever having a problem loading a linux install disk? |
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| [16:02:00] | AngryElf: | has anyone gotten the ati hdtv wonder working w/ ivtv? |
| [16:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | It uses the same chipset as the hauppage cards and not ati's own stuff ?!? |
| [16:04:00] | AngryElf: | ?? |
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| [16:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | AngryElf: Basically I'm asking why would you expect it to ever work with the ivtv drivers |
| [16:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | unless ati is using the same chips that the ivtv driver is designed to handle |
| [16:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | which would be suprising |
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| [16:11:00] | sphing: | mmm "bulshit" just hit the air on msnbc on a live interview |
| [16:16:00] | Beirdo: | bull shit *BLEEP* |
| [16:16:00] | Beirdo: | ? |
| [16:16:00] | sphing: | no beep |
| [16:16:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | the censors were sleeping |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | pretty much nothing is actually live |
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| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | ah well |
| [16:17:00] | sphing: | Beirdo: do you have an asterisk machine? |
| [16:17:00] | esoteric[work]: | I am thinking about getting this card http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.j . . . tCode=321870 for my mythtv box, is there an reason to think that it would not work? |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | we all know that news is all bullshit anyways |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [16:17:00] | esoteric[work]: | hey Beirdo, long time no see |
| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | heya |
| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | I'd think that card should work fine |
| [16:18:00] | sphing: | hooked up to pots? |
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| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, but one of the clone cards is ubershite |
| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | the other works |
| [16:18:00] | sphing: | digium? |
| [16:19:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [16:19:00] | Beirdo: | CLONE |
| [16:19:00] | Beirdo: | digium stopped making single line cards long ago |
| [16:20:00] | sphing: | naw... they have a dev card with on fxo and one fxs |
| [16:20:00] | Beirdo: | that's their 4-line card with 2 modules |
| [16:20:00] | Beirdo: | and is horribly overpriced |
| [16:22:00] | Beirdo: | but if you want one, they should work |
| [16:22:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [16:22:00] | sphing: | i'm looking for a cheap card to play with |
| [16:22:00] | Beirdo: | I'd rather use Sipura SPA-3000 |
| [16:22:00] | Beirdo: | the cheap cards are the X100p clones |
| [16:22:00] | Beirdo: | and they can often suck |
| [16:23:00] | sphing: | so you have your house # that can ring anywhere with a network correct? |
| [16:23:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [16:23:00] | Beirdo: | I use a menu though |
| [16:24:00] | Beirdo: | and I have several numbers |
| [16:24:00] | ** Beirdo is a geek ** | |
| [16:24:00] | sphing: | lol... i'd love to be a telemarker calling... "hi and thanks for reaching <name>, for <name> press 1, for press inqueries press 2" |
| [16:25:00] | Beirdo: | well, I also make it insist on callerid |
| [16:25:00] | Beirdo: | no callerid, no phone rings |
| [16:25:00] | Beirdo: | they have to type in a number, or they go to voicemail |
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| [16:25:00] | sphing: | your mom is like wtf... i just want to talk to my son |
| [16:25:00] | Beirdo: | I haven't had a single telemarketer through to a phone since |
| [16:26:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:26:00] | Beirdo: | mom learned quick |
| [16:26:00] | Beirdo: | so did dad |
| [16:26:00] | Beirdo: | and so did the girlfriend :) |
| [16:26:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:28:00] | Beirdo: | damn, I'm tired |
| [16:28:00] | sphing: | i think i'm gonna set one up for me and my roommate |
| [16:29:00] | sphing: | so if someone called your pot and you were at the office you could forward it to your laptop no? |
| [16:29:00] | Beirdo: | it's good geeky fun |
| [16:29:00] | Beirdo: | if the firewall at work allowed it, yes |
| [16:30:00] | sphing: | have you played with kphone at all |
| [16:30:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [16:30:00] | sphing: | i'm dmz'ed with my router... and kphone still doesn't work |
| [16:30:00] | Beirdo: | I don't do kde |
| [16:30:00] | sphing: | nor do I... what do you use? |
| [16:31:00] | Beirdo: | Sipura devices |
| [16:31:00] | Beirdo: | with real phones |
| [16:31:00] | Beirdo: | and occasionally X-lite or firefly on the laptops |
| [16:32:00] | sphing: | work behind nat? |
| [16:32:00] | Beirdo: | sure. because my asterisk is also behind the nat |
| [16:32:00] | Beirdo: | and all connections out use IAX |
| [16:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use x-lite from behind nat's to reach my asterisk box on the outside all the time |
| [16:32:00] | ** sphing immediately gets x-lite ** | |
| [16:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | But that's 99% outgoing calls |
| [16:33:00] | sphing: | and you can receive calls also? |
| [16:33:00] | Beirdo: | NAT + SIP can be a HUGE nightmare |
| [16:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | only problem I run into is my works cisco pix box seems to cause issues if it's idle for too long |
| [16:34:00] | sphing: | especially for me, considering i IPSEC to another system that allows no incoming connections |
| [16:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | So I just route around that through another outbound firewall for all traffic to that box |
| [16:34:00] | Beirdo: | IAX works great through NAT |
| [16:34:00] | Beirdo: | so my provider connections are all IAX |
| [16:34:00] | sphing: | yes, but I don't have asterisks... my sip server is in a diff city |
| [16:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: I'll have to toy with that then. |
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| [16:36:00] | ** Beirdo sighs. stupid week. be OVER ** | |
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| [16:37:00] | nuonguy: | Beirdo: Have you been up all night? |
| [16:37:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [16:37:00] | ** GreyFoxx wonders if X-Lite(or X-Pro) support IAX ** | |
| [16:37:00] | Beirdo: | why would I do that? |
| [16:37:00] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx: no, but firefly client does |
| [16:37:00] | sphing: | x-lite is a binary |
| [16:37:00] | sphing: | ? |
| [16:37:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [16:37:00] | nuonguy: | I just got up, and you're still here |
| [16:38:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:39:00] | sphing: | mmm x-lite looks pretty |
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| [16:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: Too bad, I really like X-Lite. I'm working on a little project here setting up an Asterisk box for our travelling guys to call home to their families and to the office here and wanted to use x-lite, but the NAT problem was a pain. Maybe firefly wil lsave me the effort |
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| [16:40:00] | Beirdo: | firefly's not as polished, unfortunately |
| [16:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | Damn |
| [16:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'll play with it anyway, thanks |
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| [16:43:00] | Beirdo: | worth a look :) |
| [16:43:00] | sphing: | amazing |
| [16:43:00] | sphing: | xlite works behind nat |
| [16:44:00] | Beirdo: | cool |
| [16:44:00] | ** sphing is firing up ethereal to see what the sip looks like ** | |
| [16:44:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:44:00] | sphing: | kphone and linphone suck |
| [16:45:00] | Beirdo: | and mythphone (IMO) |
| [16:45:00] | Beirdo: | I don't want my phone on the damn TV |
| [16:45:00] | sphing: | theres mythphone?! |
| [16:45:00] | sphing: | for what |
| [16:45:00] | Beirdo: | it does SIP |
| [16:45:00] | Beirdo: | with a webcam |
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| [16:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: It has various nat detection abilities, and will use different types of tunnels. But I'm not messed with that |
| [16:45:00] | Beirdo: | for video |
| [16:45:00] | Beirdo: | but I never got it working right, and I don't like the concept anyways for me |
| [16:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | there is even an X-Lite linux beta version |
| [16:46:00] | sphing: | ahhh .. i was gonna say.. what would a phone under your tv do? |
| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | gives you a videophone on the TV |
| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | but my TV's for TV |
| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | feel free to play with it of course :) |
| [16:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | Plus not all myth boxes are on TV's, some are on desktops, or windowed on d3esktops |
| [16:47:00] | Beirdo: | true |
| [16:47:00] | sphing: | i'm amazed at x-lite |
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| [16:47:00] | sphing: | all i need now is a mic |
| [16:47:00] | Beirdo: | I wanna go back to PR |
| [16:48:00] | Beirdo: | screw this work crap |
| [16:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: It's nifty. I'd buy a buncyh of copies of the pro version if it supported IAX if that will help me avoid users behind NAT's having problems |
| [16:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: heh |
| [16:48:00] | Beirdo: | my resume's down there now |
| [16:48:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:49:00] | nuonguy: | You looking for a job, Beirdo? |
| [16:49:00] | Beirdo: | in Puerto Rico |
| [16:49:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [16:50:00] | nuonguy: | heh |
| [16:50:00] | nuonguy: | If you find one, man, and you need a crack programmer, holler at me! |
| [16:51:00] | ** GreyFoxx snorts water through his nose ** | |
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| [16:59:00] | sphing: | ugh... $600 on my car |
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| [17:02:00] | sphing: | Beird you any good with SIP |
| [17:02:00] | soi-disant: | !ss |
| [17:02:00] | soi-disant: | damn cat... |
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| [17:02:00] | simcop2387: | i think i found a bug in mythfrontend, should i discuss it here or in #mythtv |
| [17:03:00] | laga: | well, give us a shoprt introduction ;) |
| [17:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | simcop2387: What version? |
| [17:03:00] | simcop2387: | nope i was doing it wrong, whoops |
| [17:03:00] | simcop2387: | GreyFoxx: is there anyway to have mythfrontend start straight into watching tv? |
| [17:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | rather than the menu ? |
| [17:04:00] | simcop2387: | yes |
| [17:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | No idea, I've never looked to do that |
| [17:04:00] | simcop2387: | i want to start it there when i hit the power button on my remote |
| [17:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, there is a jump point for livetv, but of course mythfrontend would have to be running already |
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| [17:05:00] | simcop2387: | jump point? |
| [17:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | So you could map the power button to the jump point maybe |
| [17:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | a key binding that lets you "jump" directly to a point in myth without navigating the menus |
| [17:06:00] | simcop2387: | ah |
| [17:06:00] | simcop2387: | hmm |
| [17:07:00] | simcop2387: | my other idea is to start the "mythtv" program first in a shell script then after it exits have it run mythfrontend but i'd rather not have to do that if i don't have to, mythfrontend can go straight to a plugin when run but tv isn't a plugin :( |
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| [17:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sure it is |
| [17:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | well, I support it's not like the other plugins |
| [17:09:00] | Beirdo: | broccoli rules |
| [17:10:00] | simcop2387: | yea, the main reason i don't want to start mythtv directly is that the program guide doesn't work properly then and i don't know how to fix that :) |
| [17:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | simcop2387: So havving myth frontend run all the time, and just configure the power button to jump right to live tv is not sufficient ? |
| [17:10:00] | simcop2387: | GreyFoxx: well its also my desktop pc |
| [17:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahh |
| [17:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | have fun :) |
| [17:10:00] | simcop2387: | i'd love to be able to hit the power button when i wake up and just start watching :) |
| [17:14:00] | simcop2387: | which OSD and menu theme do you use? so far what i've found i like is the "blue" menu theme and the "MythTVMediaCenter" OSD theme |
| [17:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | I like isthmus for OSD, and I use to use blue, but I've been using my own theme lately |
| [17:14:00] | simcop2387: | hmm |
| [17:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | isthmus is my favourite OSD by far |
| [17:14:00] | Beirdo: | I use titivillus :) |
| [17:14:00] | simcop2387: | screenshot? |
| [17:15:00] | Beirdo: | and I don't remember which OSD off hand |
| [17:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | simcop2387: for isthmus ? http://www.aldorf.no/mythtv/ |
| [17:15:00] | simcop2387: | ooo isthmus is nice |
| [17:15:00] | simcop2387: | GreyFoxx: no for the one you made |
| [17:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's integrated into myth or myththemes now |
| [17:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | oh |
| [17:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | www.phaze.org/mythtv/themes are a couple shot of it. I stopped working on it. Waiting for future mythui and theme enhancements before I "complete" it |
| [17:16:00] | sphing: | Beirdo are there any voip providers that do rollover? |
| [17:16:00] | Beirdo: | rollover? |
| [17:17:00] | sphing: | line1 is busy... line 2 |
| [17:17:00] | sphing: | etc |
| [17:17:00] | simcop2387: | sphing: thats typically not called rollover |
| [17:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | call-busy forward |
| [17:17:00] | Beirdo: | not sure if they will |
| [17:17:00] | sphing: | oops... k sorry wrong term |
| [17:17:00] | simcop2387: | GreyFoxx: 404 |
| [17:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | oops, take the s of themes |
| [17:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | www.phaze.org/mythtv/theme |
| [17:18:00] | Beirdo: | if it's coming in VOIP, it often will just come in, it's asterisk's problem to deal with the multiple calls |
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| [17:18:00] | Beirdo: | depending on how they terminate the PSTN of course |
| [17:18:00] | ** GreyFoxx wonders if mysql can replicate db's from more than 1 master ** | |
| [17:18:00] | ** Beirdo cues Extreme – Tragic Comic ** | |
| [17:18:00] | sphing: | Beirdo: i mean if someone calls xxx-xxxx and its busy cause someone is calling at that exact second... then will it fall to the second number? |
| [17:19:00] | Beirdo: | it won't be busy unless asterisk says it is |
| [17:19:00] | Beirdo: | in most cases |
| [17:19:00] | Beirdo: | and you can make asterisk ring whatever phones you want |
| [17:19:00] | simcop2387: | GreyFoxx: kickass theme, can't wait till its ready |
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| [17:20:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [17:20:00] | Beirdo: | Porn/ |
| [17:20:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | Heh I could redo the screenshot, but I don't care enough to do it :) |
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| [17:21:00] | Beirdo: | at least you weren't IN the Porn/ dir :) |
| [17:21:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | True, but I figured that would be a little much :) Besides I wanted to show the poster in there and I don't have posters setup for the pr0n :) |
| [17:22:00] | NightBird: | hahahaha |
| [17:22:00] | NightBird: | that is amuzing |
| [17:22:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:22:00] | EvilBob is now known as Bob-Laptop | |
| [17:22:00] | Beirdo: | you could fix that |
| [17:22:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:23:00] | esoteric[work]: | sorry Beirdo, went to a meeting, thanks for your response. :) |
| [17:23:00] | Beirdo: | no prob |
| [17:23:00] | ** GreyFoxx writes a script for renaming videos both on the filesystem and in the db so that he doesn't have to resetup the imdb info ** | |
| [17:25:00] | nuonguy: | I don't suppose there's a way to have a secret pr0n dir in mythtv? |
| [17:26:00] | nuonguy: | You know, press some super secret keyboard combo that mounts a super secret volume, and, well, you know... |
| [17:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sure, don't name it Pron/Pr0n |
| [17:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | I know there is some sort of pin/parental management stuff in there. |
| [17:27:00] | nuonguy: | A good name would be important... |
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| [17:28:00] | Beirdo: | "Documentaries" |
| [17:28:00] | Beirdo: | that will keep all adults out |
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| [17:29:00] | Beirdo: | or nearly all |
| [17:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [17:29:00] | nuonguy: | I live in a geek house, so that would attract the inner geek in some of us |
| [17:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have a Documentaries folder! :) |
| [17:29:00] | Beirdo: | oh |
| [17:29:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [17:29:00] | travolta: | "woman documentaries" |
| [17:29:00] | Beirdo: | "dating shows" |
| [17:29:00] | travolta: | "sports" |
| [17:29:00] | Beirdo: | or... "home improvement" |
| [17:30:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:30:00] | Beirdo: | depending on the crowd |
| [17:30:00] | nuonguy: | Definitely not "Home Improvement" – the missus would be all over that! |
| [17:30:00] | travolta: | he said he lives in a geek house |
| [17:30:00] | Beirdo: | nuonguy: and that's a bad thing? |
| [17:30:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [17:31:00] | Beirdo: | trying to hide content is rarely worth the trouble |
| [17:31:00] | nuonguy: | Oh yes it is |
| [17:31:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | porn is healthy in normal doses |
| [17:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | no reason to hide it |
| [17:31:00] | Beirdo: | if you need to hide it, maybe you shouldn't have it |
| [17:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | unless it's some sick sh*t |
| [17:32:00] | Beirdo: | there's lots of that out there |
| [17:32:00] | nuonguy: | The problm isn't just the missus, it's also lots of guests who come over and grab the remote and make themselves comfortable on the couch |
| [17:32:00] | Beirdo: | well, keep yer pr0n on a CD or a USB key then |
| [17:32:00] | Beirdo: | remove it |
| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | or have horny guests, whatever works |
| [17:33:00] | nuonguy: | My better half expects me to have some pr0n, but I would be mortified if her parents came over and found out about it! |
| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:34:00] | Beirdo: | fair enough |
| [17:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | haha My fam and the GF's fam see the Porn directory and don't seem to care :) |
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| [17:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | They just don't navigate into it :) |
| [17:34:00] | nuonguy: | Mine isn't nearly that enlightened |
| [17:34:00] | nuonguy: | Or, at least, I don't want to find out that they're not |
| [17:35:00] | nuonguy: | :-[ |
| [17:35:00] | Beirdo: | *cough* wuss. |
| [17:35:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:35:00] | Beirdo: | couldn't blame ya |
| [17:35:00] | Beirdo: | "Internet Downloads" |
| [17:35:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:36:00] | nuonguy: | I haven't been asked yet, but I might be asked to put togehter a mythbox for the future in-laws... |
| [17:36:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [17:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | or, just use mythvideo in file system browse mode. Add a symlink to the porn dir when you want at it, remove it otherwise |
| [17:36:00] | Beirdo: | be sure to put lots of "test recordings" for them |
| [17:36:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:36:00] | Beirdo: | hook the video camera to the capture card |
| [17:36:00] | ** Beirdo is SO bad ** | |
| [17:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | My dad loves his mythbox |
| [17:37:00] | nuonguy: | I gotta go and get to work... |
| [17:38:00] | Beirdo: | so overrated |
| [17:38:00] | nuonguy: | So is paying rent |
| [17:38:00] | Beirdo: | true |
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| [17:40:00] | sphing: | Bierdo; that doesn't make sense... cause then with one voip line you could have a call center |
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| [17:41:00] | Beirdo: | as I said, it depends on how they are terminating the PSTN |
| [17:41:00] | sphing: | ahh missed that part |
| [17:42:00] | Beirdo: | many, you pay per minute, and can have as many simultaneous connections as you want |
| [17:42:00] | sphing: | do you use a voip or a pots? |
| [17:42:00] | Beirdo: | pay per minute per connection |
| [17:42:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [17:42:00] | sphing: | lol... which one |
| [17:43:00] | Beirdo: | most my calls come in over voip |
| [17:43:00] | Beirdo: | but my phone lines are connected too |
| [17:43:00] | sphing: | ah |
| [17:49:00] | sphing: | has anyone connected a bluetooth cellphone headset with a computer and used that as a headset for a softphone? |
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| [18:01:00] | number6: | hey folks, my system seems to skip any time I have a tv window open... not just in mythtv, but thats what i'm trying to fix.... example, I open tvtime and krec and record some tv audio... If I play it back, it skips, if I close tvtime and play the same file again, it plays without skipping |
| [18:02:00] | number6: | it's really preventing me from enjoying myth, might anyone have a sugestion for what I should look at? |
| [18:03:00] | number6: | my cpu isn't being fully used, athlonXP 1700, sblive 24bit (ca0106 ( alsa .0.10 ) ), bt878 |
| [18:03:00] | number6: | fedora core 4 |
| [18:09:00] | number6: | or is anyone else running that newest version of alsa? I had to upgrade mine to get inputs on my sb live 24bit |
| [18:10:00] | number6: | haha, yes, the development version of alsa... I probably just need a more compatible sound card |
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| [18:36:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: you there? |
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| [18:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | for a moment yeah |
| [18:37:00] | sphing: | just letting you know sip works very well through firewalls with STUN |
| [18:37:00] | sphing: | firing up ethereal and i'm working right through my school ipsec firewall |
| [18:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | cool |
| [18:37:00] | sphing: | off to class... ttyl |
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| [18:56:00] | Sneaker__: | Does anyone have nebula&mt352 working with linux? |
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| [19:25:00] | blh: | if i have a pvr 250, am i taking advantage of the mpg2 hardware encoder, even though mythtv encodes things in nubble format? |
| [19:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | blh: If you have a 250 it just written as the mpeg to the .nuv files |
| [19:25:00] | laga: | it's spelled nuppel |
| [19:25:00] | laga: | and...yeah, see what greyfoxx's written ;) |
| [19:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | the nupplevideo format is only really used for software encoders |
| [19:26:00] | blh: | GreyFoxx: can you change it to mpg2 files, so that they are easier to backup, etc..? |
| [19:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | huh? |
| [19:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's IS an mpeg2 file, it just has a .nuv filename |
| [19:26:00] | laga: | blh: mv file.nuv file.mpg |
| [19:27:00] | blh: | so if i changed file.nuv to file.mpg, i would be able to make svcd's out of them, etc..? cause i have gone through a lengthy process of converting them once in order to back somethings up |
| [19:28:00] | laga: | blh: take a look at nuvexport |
| [19:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | blh: Well you would have to ensure it's either recorded or reencoded to have the right resolution/max bitrate tht an svcd allows |
| [19:29:00] | blh: | ahhh.. ok, but the encoding is all the same? why use .nub rather than .mpg? |
| [19:29:00] | adante: | THINK OF THE CHILDREN |
| [19:30:00] | laga: | blh: because of historical reasons? ;) |
| [19:30:00] | laga: | blh: FYI, in unix, file extensions mean nothing |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | think of the kittens |
| [19:31:00] | blh: | laga, i know that.. but it doesnt seem to make sense, if they are mpg2 files, just to change the extention to .nuv.. just cause in unix extensions mean nothing |
| [19:31:00] | laga: | .oO(...every time you masturbate, a kitten kills god...) |
| [19:31:00] | laga: | blh: well, if it bothers you, file a bug in trac at cvs.mythtv.org |
| [19:33:00] | blh: | it doesnt bother me.. just curious as to the reasoning behind it.. and it has to be more than "just cause in unix extensions mean nothing" |
| [19:33:00] | laga: | BTW, would anyone know why my mpeg2enc called by nuvexport would only eat up 50% of my cpu cycles? even renicing to a negative nice level doesn't help |
| [19:34:00] | laga: | blh: well. back in the golden days, mythtv only supported software encoders. and they used nuppelvideo to do the encoding and they saw that it was good |
| [19:34:00] | laga: | blh: when the pvr x50s came up, they just continued to use this extension |
| [19:35:00] | blh: | laga: ahh.. that makes more sence.. so .nub and .mpg files are exactly the same? |
| [19:35:00] | laga: | blh: no. |
| [19:35:00] | laga: | blh: it's the content that matters. |
| [19:36:00] | blh: | ok.. so, mv file.nuv file.mpg; wont actually do the trick then? |
| [19:36:00] | blh: | you actually have to export those files to another format |
| [19:36:00] | blh: | correct? |
| [19:36:00] | laga: | blh: rtjpeg and mpeg4 recordings are in a nuppelvideo container, while the mpeg2 from the hardware encoders/dvb cards is dumped to disk with a .nuv extension. |
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| [19:36:00] | laga: | blh: it's mpeg2. |
| [19:37:00] | blh: | ok, since i am using a pvr250, its just a mpg2 files with a nuv extention? |
| [19:37:00] | laga: | right. |
| [19:37:00] | jharrisonwk: | what can be done if your provider gives an encrypted signal? |
| [19:37:00] | Beirdo: | nothing |
| [19:37:00] | blh: | so just mv file.nuv file.mpg; would actually do the trick.. as long as i am not using a software encoder? |
| [19:37:00] | Beirdo: | use their equipment to decrypt |
| [19:38:00] | Beirdo: | then capture the analog output instead of putting it into the TV |
| [19:38:00] | laga: | blh: umm. well, that'd give you a file with an .mpg extension. |
| [19:38:00] | jharrisonwk: | Beirdo: I was thinking of that |
| [19:38:00] | jharrisonwk: | Beirdo: but then I will have to change channels on the equipment they give me right? |
| [19:38:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [19:38:00] | Beirdo: | using an IR transmitter from the myth box |
| [19:38:00] | Beirdo: | generally |
| [19:39:00] | blh: | laga: right, but is it actually an mpg2 encoded file? or will it still need re-encoding? |
| [19:39:00] | laga: | blh: IT'S MPEG2 FOR GOD'S SAKE |
| [19:39:00] | laga: | *sigh* |
| [19:39:00] | laga: | afk |
| [19:39:00] | jharrisonwk: | Beirdo: what do you mean |
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| [19:40:00] | blh: | laga: i just asked you that same question, and you told me no |
| [19:40:00] | jharrisonwk: | Beirdo: you can control channels with mythtv with an ir transmitter from the mythtv box |
| [19:40:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [19:40:00] | blh: | <blh> laga: ahh.. that makes more sence.. so .nub and .mpg files are exactly the same? |
| [19:40:00] | blh: | <laga> blh: no. |
| [19:40:00] | blh: | <laga> blh: it's the content that matters. |
| [19:40:00] | Beirdo: | it's like the mythbox is using a remote |
| [19:40:00] | jharrisonwk: | Beirdo: so you mean when I change channels on mythtv box mythtv box transmits the IR to the equipment and thus changes the channel |
| [19:40:00] | jharrisonwk: | Beirdo: ah I see |
| [19:40:00] | blh: | so that wasnt right.. its actually the same two files, with 2 different extentions? |
| [19:41:00] | jharrisonwk: | Beirdo: what about getting the digital signal from the provider and then have digital output from the providers equipment to digital capture card on mythtv |
| [19:41:00] | jharrisonwk: | Beirdo: that works too? |
| [19:41:00] | Beirdo: | if it's unencrypted, and you can find a card to capture the format, sure |
| [19:42:00] | jharrisonwk: | Beirdo: format? |
| [19:42:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [19:42:00] | laga: | blh: you just don't get it. a file with a .nuv extension may contain a variety of formats. for example, mpeeg4, rtjpeg or mpeg2. |
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| [19:42:00] | jharrisonwk: | Beirdo: what do you mean? |
| [19:42:00] | jharrisonwk: | Beirdo: there are different formats of digital? |
| [19:42:00] | Beirdo: | I mean if it can capture the format... like DVB, etc |
| [19:42:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [19:43:00] | jharrisonwk: | oh ok |
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| [19:43:00] | laga: | blh: rtjpeg and mpeg4 are usually stored in a container format called nuppelvideo, while mpeg2 is, well, mpeg2. |
| [19:43:00] | blh: | laga: ahh.. but since i am using a 250, it will be mpeg2 that is inside the nuv file |
| [19:43:00] | jharrisonwk: | very interesting |
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| [19:43:00] | jharrisonwk: | the providers PVR unit is 900 dollars |
| [19:43:00] | blh: | laga: so just changing the file extension would work, since the .nuv file is actually a container for the mpg2 stream that came off my encoder? |
| [19:43:00] | jharrisonwk: | im sure I can build one based on linux for much cheaper then that |
| [19:44:00] | jharrisonwk: | im now plotting on how to go about this |
| [19:44:00] | laga: | blh: it. is. not. a. container. |
| [19:44:00] | laga: | blh: it's like 'cat /dev/video > /foo.nuv' |
| [19:45:00] | blh: | right.. which would make a mpg2 file w/ a .nuv extension.. which would make it so that i could just "mv foo.nuv foo.mpg", and it would be all i have to do? |
| [19:46:00] | laga: | if you want a mpeg file with an .mpg extension, yes |
| [19:49:00] | laga: | http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2003 . . . /021724.html <- blh. i refer to the quoted part |
| [19:49:00] | beavis: | mpeg2 is different, since it's just |
| [19:49:00] | beavis: | > an mpeg2 file with a .nuv extension |
| [19:50:00] | Beirdo: | it could just as easily have been .txt or .doc, etc. |
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| [19:51:00] | laga: | Beirdo: don't. he'll probably start asking more questions. ;) |
| [19:51:00] | Beirdo: | sorry |
| [19:51:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [20:06:00] | Tommck: | This is Off-topic, but ... Is there a standard command-line ftp program which will upload directories recursively? |
| [20:06:00] | Tommck: | (for linux) |
| [20:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | ncftp is fairly standard these days. It will do a get/mget -r and I think a put/mput -r |
| [20:07:00] | Tommck: | oh.. cool |
| [20:07:00] | Tommck: | thanks |
| [20:08:00] | laga: | i like yafc. it also supports sftp |
| [20:08:00] | ** GreyFoxx goes in search of food ** | |
| [20:08:00] | Tommck: | well, I don't control the machine, so I have to shoot for something that'll (hopefully) already be there |
| [20:09:00] | Tommck: | sweet.. it's got ncftp |
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| [20:34:00] | Sneaker__: | what partition format is best for recordings in mythtv? |
| [20:34:00] | Sneaker__: | ext3? |
| [20:34:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [20:34:00] | Sneaker__: | ? |
| [20:34:00] | Beirdo: | xfs is generally best for that |
| [20:35:00] | Sneaker__: | xfs |
| [20:35:00] | Sneaker__: | ok |
| [20:35:00] | Beirdo: | it deals with manipulating and deleting large files MUCH better than ext3 |
| [20:35:00] | Beirdo: | I think jfs is about the same |
| [20:35:00] | Sneaker__: | can I create xfs partition with fdisk or is there need for some additional configuration? |
| [20:35:00] | Sneaker__: | ok |
| [20:35:00] | Sneaker__: | sounds good. |
| [20:35:00] | Sneaker__: | I'am glad that I asked :) |
| [20:35:00] | laga: | mkfs.xfs <- to format the partition. |
| [20:36:00] | Beirdo: | it's especially useful for liveTV buffers |
| [20:36:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:36:00] | Sneaker__: | I dont have that :/ |
| [20:36:00] | Sneaker__: | mkfs.cramfs mkfs.ext2 mkfs.ext3 mkfs.msdos mkfs.vfat |
| [20:36:00] | Beirdo: | as every time you change channels, it will delete the buffer (last I checked) |
| [20:37:00] | Beirdo: | you'll need to install it then |
| [20:37:00] | Sneaker__: | yum? |
| [20:37:00] | Sneaker__: | FC4 |
| [20:37:00] | ** Beirdo shrugs ** | |
| [20:37:00] | Beirdo: | I dunno |
| [20:37:00] | Sneaker__: | :) |
| [20:37:00] | Beirdo: | xfstools or something |
| [20:37:00] | Sneaker__: | Ok, I will use google :) |
| [20:37:00] | Sneaker__: | But thanks for the help! |
| [20:37:00] | Beirdo: | yum should be able to search for xfs |
| [20:37:00] | laga: | it's called xfsprogs on debian |
| [20:38:00] | Sneaker__: | and so it is for FC also... |
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| [20:51:00] | DarkBeer: | can transcoding to mpeg-4 be done from a ssh session, or does it have to be done from the front end? I'm at work, and would like to manually transcode a file at home if possible |
| [20:51:00] | laga: | DarkBeer: it should be possible to do that with mythtranscode. it might be a bit tricky, though |
| [20:52:00] | DarkBeer: | knewt, I'll read up on mythtranscode then. thanks |
| [20:53:00] | DarkBeer: | knewt?....don't know where that came from. invisible cat ran across the keyboard ;) |
| [20:55:00] | sandos: | =) |
| [20:55:00] | ** beavis goes to get some beer, been inspired ** | |
| [20:55:00] | sandos: | I thought you meant "I knew it!" |
| [20:56:00] | DarkBeer: | yeah, yeah, that's it! |
| [21:04:00] | jharrisonwk: | Beirdo: what parts of the computer will benefit mythtv performance most? |
| [21:04:00] | Beirdo: | all of them? |
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| [21:05:00] | jharrisonwk: | Beirdo: is 1GB memory sufficent? |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | should be fine |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | I think mine has 512MB |
| [21:05:00] | jharrisonwk: | ah ok |
| [21:06:00] | jharrisonwk: | so athlon64 with 1gb memory and sata drives should work pretty good |
| [21:06:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [21:06:00] | laga: | mine runs shitty with 256 mb when i have a transcoding job running ;) |
| [21:06:00] | jharrisonwk: | alrighty |
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| [21:27:00] | MrSpiffy: | yo |
| [21:27:00] | dougl: | roggae: you are here |
| [21:27:00] | dougl: | there is a howto to make/setup mythtv on le2005... I just need to find it |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | gooooogle |
| [21:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | google oogle oggle |
| [21:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | ney Beirdo, are they going to integrate your scripts into mythtv – like a media/recording option to export ? |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | ? |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | you mean nuvexport? That's more xris' than mine |
| [21:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | interate nuvexport into mythtv suite |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | and I doubt it will be directly integrated any time soon |
| [21:30:00] | MrSpiffy: | too bad – it's good stuff. nelongs there |
| [21:30:00] | MrSpiffy: | belongs that is |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | so YOU integrate it :) |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:30:00] | MrSpiffy: | um |
| [21:30:00] | MrSpiffy: | er |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | right |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | and that's why it won't happen any time soon |
| [21:31:00] | MrSpiffy: | It's doen't look so bad – your scripts take command line opts, just store the opts in a mysql table in the mythconverge db |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | they aren't my scripts. |
| [21:31:00] | MrSpiffy: | oh |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | I helped with them |
| [21:31:00] | MrSpiffy: | thought they were |
| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | xris did most of the work |
| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | parts of it I wrote |
| [21:32:00] | MrSpiffy: | I wonder how mythfrontend or mythbackend takes commands to load perl scripts |
| [21:32:00] | MrSpiffy: | with opts |
| [21:33:00] | Sneaker__: | Hi |
| [21:33:00] | MrSpiffy: | ho |
| [21:33:00] | Sneaker__: | I'am running linuxbox with vnc, and running mythtvsetup is causing some problems because the xmlgrabber runs in terminal. Is there a way to run xmlgrabber in shell? |
| [21:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | right now I go ver to my backend and run the script at the console. It would be cool if it could be launched on a frontend like "begin transcoding" or "commercial flagging" job |
| [21:35:00] | MrSpiffy: | Sneaker__, I know this isn;t an answer but I have run mythtvsetup from an ssh session |
| [21:36:00] | MrSpiffy: | if you have sshd running on the machine then you could go that way |
| [21:36:00] | MrSpiffy: | ssh hostname mythtvsetup |
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| [21:38:00] | Sneaker__: | hmm |
| [21:38:00] | Sneaker__: | doesnt mythtvsetup require x? |
| [21:38:00] | blh: | has the burn audio cd option ever been implemented yet? |
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| [21:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sneaker__: yes, you can set your DISPLAY variable to point to the X server. then run the application |
| [21:41:00] | MrSpiffy: | Sneaker__, oh – you are using a windows client and vnc ? |
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| [21:42:00] | MrSpiffy: | Sneaker__, if you are using a linux machine to remote control your backend then you can use ssh and ssh sould set your display environment variable correctly |
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| [21:44:00] | blh: | i think there is something called xwin32 or something like that.. it should allow you to run an remote x session on a windows client |
| [21:44:00] | Sneaker__: | hmm |
| [21:44:00] | Sneaker__: | I'am runnin XP and vnc client |
| [21:44:00] | sandos: | or cygwin. but thats a rather large install. =) |
| [21:44:00] | MrSpiffy: | oh |
| [21:45:00] | MrSpiffy: | well that's a bummer |
| [21:45:00] | Sneaker__: | =) |
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| [21:45:00] | blh: | sandos: yeah, and i think you have to pay to use xwin32 (or whatever it's called) if you use it for more than like 10 minutes at a time (if i remember correctly, been awhile since i used it).. |
| [21:45:00] | MrSpiffy: | hehe |
| [21:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | I think the default longer than that, or it was last I had an unregistered copy of it |
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| [21:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use xwin32 all the time |
| [21:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | my favourite windows XServer |
| [21:46:00] | Sneaker__: | damn |
| [21:46:00] | MrSpiffy: | sorry Sneaker__ I just keep my xp around to play games on |
| [21:46:00] | Sneaker__: | np. |
| [21:46:00] | Sneaker__: | I will have to take my display to the linuxbox |
| [21:46:00] | jharrisonwk: | MrSpiffy: what games? |
| [21:46:00] | ** MrSpiffy calls to convert the heathen ** | |
| [21:47:00] | MrSpiffy: | jharrisonwk, quake 2, caesar 3, pharoe, sim city |
| [21:47:00] | ** MrSpiffy has had bad luck getting these things to work in an emulator ** | |
| [21:48:00] | jharrisonwk: | MrSpiffy: quake 2 runs in linux I think |
| [21:48:00] | jharrisonwk: | MrSpiffy: not the others though as far as I know |
| [21:48:00] | jharrisonwk: | MrSpiffy: maybe with winex |
| [21:48:00] | sona: | probably with cedega |
| [21:48:00] | sona: | quake2 works geat |
| [21:48:00] | sona: | great |
| [21:49:00] | jharrisonwk: | yeah cedega == winex |
| [21:49:00] | MrSpiffy: | jharrisonwk, I did try some of the q2 ports for linux – messed around with SDL al lthat – ran like crap |
| [21:50:00] | jharrisonwk: | MrSpiffy: really? |
| [21:50:00] | MrSpiffy: | jharrisonwk, never tried winex |
| [21:50:00] | MrSpiffy: | jharrisonwk, yeah – lag city between action and reaction |
| [21:50:00] | jharrisonwk: | MrSpiffy: all linux games for me run much smoother then on windows |
| [21:51:00] | jharrisonwk: | MrSpiffy: what graphics card do you have? |
| [21:51:00] | MrSpiffy: | i810 |
| [21:51:00] | jharrisonwk: | intel? |
| [21:51:00] | MrSpiffy: | yep |
| [21:51:00] | jharrisonwk: | thats why |
| [21:51:00] | jharrisonwk: | intel linux support sucks |
| [21:51:00] | MrSpiffy: | dri crashes nicely |
| [21:51:00] | MrSpiffy: | amen brother |
| [21:51:00] | MrSpiffy: | say it again |
| [21:51:00] | jharrisonwk: | intel linux support sucks |
| [21:51:00] | MrSpiffy: | intel linux support sucks |
| [21:51:00] | MrSpiffy: | ty |
| [21:52:00] | jharrisonwk: | I have a ati radeon card that works very nicely |
| [21:52:00] | MrSpiffy: | nice |
| [21:52:00] | jharrisonwk: | but alas I have not played much games lately as I find myself coding and doing other things recently |
| [21:52:00] | blh: | jharrisonwk: do you use a radeon for tv-out by chance? have you had success w/ gatos? |
| [21:53:00] | jharrisonwk: | blh: I do use radeon with tv out but not with gatos |
| [21:54:00] | jharrisonwk: | blh: I use the fglrx ati proprietary driver |
| [21:54:00] | blh: | what radeon are you using? |
| [21:54:00] | MrSpiffy: | jharrisonwk, what distrib? |
| [21:55:00] | jharrisonwk: | MrSpiffy: debian |
| [21:55:00] | Sneaker__: | weird! |
| [21:55:00] | jharrisonwk: | blh: radeon 9000 pro 2 |
| [21:55:00] | jharrisonwk: | MrSpiffy: debian or nothing! |
| [21:55:00] | Sneaker__: | I moved my display to the linux box, but still, it wont run the xmlgrabber in terminal |
| [21:55:00] | Sneaker__: | any ideas? |
| [21:56:00] | Sneaker__: | it just runs through the part where it should be "grabbing" and tells me that I must run with --manual parameter. |
| [21:56:00] | Sneaker__: | bug? |
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| [22:01:00] | Sneaker__: | no ideas? |
| [22:01:00] | Sneaker__: | its really weird |
| [22:01:00] | blh: | have you run it w/ the --manual parameter? |
| [22:01:00] | Sneaker__: | but that should be done after the first run |
| [22:01:00] | Sneaker__: | because atm. I dont have anything in the xml file |
| [22:02:00] | Sneaker__: | and with mythfilldatabase it will move data from .xml to mysql database |
| [22:02:00] | Sneaker__: | --manual parameter is because my feed for the xml doesnt include channel numbers |
| [22:02:00] | Sneaker__: | so I have to punch it manually |
| [22:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: You around ? |
| [22:03:00] | Beirdo: | maybe |
| [22:03:00] | Beirdo: | I'm round |
| [22:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | You said you use IAX for your clients right ??> |
| [22:03:00] | Beirdo: | I use them to my providers |
| [22:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh opk |
| [22:03:00] | Beirdo: | and I use SIP internally on my LAN |
| [22:03:00] | Beirdo: | and have an IAXy in PR |
| [22:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've setup a IAX client and it can call my sip/outside lines |
| [22:03:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
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| [22:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I'm trying to figure out the right config to let someone call the IAX client :) |
| [22:04:00] | Beirdo: | ahh |
| [22:04:00] | Beirdo: | I think there's samples somewhere on the wiki |
| [22:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | Everything I've found so far have had to do with FWD/other peers not with friends/users |
| [22:05:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, not surprising |
| [22:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | man, I gotta trim out the cruft from these config files |
| [22:05:00] | Beirdo: | look for iaxy config examples maybe |
| [22:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | makes it hard to find stuff |
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| [22:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | Those IAXy units look nifty |
| [22:08:00] | Beirdo: | s/nifty/shitty/ ? |
| [22:08:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [22:08:00] | Beirdo: | they only do ulaw |
| [22:09:00] | Beirdo: | but they work |
| [22:09:00] | Beirdo: | I think I'll swap in a Sipura later on |
| [22:09:00] | Beirdo: | if I really wanna geek out... bring a Sipura device, and reprogram her wrt54g and put asterisk on it |
| [22:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh yeah |
| [22:10:00] | Beirdo: | have the Sipura contact asterisk on it, and trunk with IAX to home |
| [22:10:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [22:10:00] | Beirdo: | SIP + NAT = suck |
| [22:10:00] | Beirdo: | I think that would be rather fun |
| [22:10:00] | Beirdo: | but it sure won't be next trip |
| [22:10:00] | Beirdo: | I have enough stress that trip |
| [22:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | A guy here at work setup an Asterisk box after he used mine while we were in Belgium to call home |
| [22:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | now he has half his family on it |
| [22:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | they all call each other, he ordered them all SIP phones (cheapy grandstreams) and now they can all call each other for free since they all have broadband. Use to use up about $1000 or so a month between them all in LD charges |
| [22:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | his biggest problem has been NAT on a few of them, but we were thinking of putting asterisk on one of those units and peering it to get around that |
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| [22:13:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [22:14:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, get a small box doing asterisk, and trunk between them with IAX |
| [22:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | It worked so well he ordered them the first week he got home |
| [22:14:00] | Beirdo: | NAT will no longer be an issue |
| [22:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | apprently his wifes family are on the phone all the time heh |
| [22:14:00] | Beirdo: | as long as you don't try to transcode, the WRT54g may not have the balls to do that |
| [22:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | now he can still use his house phone too :) |
| [22:14:00] | Beirdo: | there are prebuilt packages for it though :) |
| [22:14:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [22:14:00] | Beirdo: | I'm SOOO tempted |
| [22:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [22:15:00] | Beirdo: | but I think I'll spend the dough on the ring first |
| [22:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | as in THE RING ? |
| [22:15:00] | Beirdo: | yep |
| [22:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | Wow |
| [22:15:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [22:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | well congrats (assuming you have asked and she said yes alread) |
| [22:16:00] | Beirdo: | well, not "officially" |
| [22:16:00] | laga: | nice :) |
| [22:16:00] | Beirdo: | but thanks |
| [22:16:00] | Beirdo: | need to bring ring... talk to father... propose "officially" |
| [22:17:00] | Beirdo: | so you see why the next trip will be... um... stressful |
| [22:17:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:17:00] | laga: | good luck :) |
| [22:18:00] | Beirdo: | thanks |
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| [22:21:00] | pfn: | http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/240 |
| [22:21:00] | pfn: | at least it's being worked on.... |
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| [22:22:00] | Chutt: | pfn, the guy doing that patch has no idea what he's trying to do. it certainly won't be applied without a _lot_ more work. |
| [22:22:00] | pfn: | is that so... bummer |
| [22:23:00] | pfn: | I really don't want to be using mysql |
| [22:23:00] | Chutt: | it's just a program |
| [22:23:00] | Beirdo: | OK, I'm heading out, have a good weekend, all |
| [22:23:00] | pfn: | mysql is the suck |
| [22:23:00] | Chutt: | <shrug> |
| [22:24:00] | Chutt: | works well enough |
| [22:24:00] | Beirdo: | so don't use myth |
| [22:24:00] | Beirdo: | we don't care |
| [22:24:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [22:24:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:24:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, have a fine weekend |
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| [23:01:00] | rtsai: | How is svn-current DVB these days for OTA US users? |
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| [23:22:00] | Krazylegz: | Has anyone been able to stream a video with vlc and actually view it in WMP, or another video player on Windows? |
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| [23:31:00] | thomerz_: | hi, is it possible to have a server with mythtv backend running, and watch tv on another pc over the network with the mythtv-frontend? |
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| [23:32:00] | pfn: | thomerz I think that's the whole point of having a separate mythtv backend and frontend |
| [23:32:00] | thomerz_: | this is true :P but i wanted to be sure |
| [23:33:00] | thomerz_: | and if i have 1 dvb card with a cardreader, and one without, is it possible to share this card anyhow? |
| [23:34:00] | pfn: | there are directv cards now? |
| [23:35:00] | thomerz_: | what is directv? |
| [23:36:00] | pfn: | nothing, just us satellite |
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| [23:38:00] | thomerz_: | ah ok, i'm from austria, so never heard about it before |
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