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[00:08:00] NightBird: weee ubuntu installation is weird on the tv
[00:09:00] NightBird: since it's offset...
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[01:15:00] sphing: Beirdo: was it you whos played with asterisks?
[01:18:00] NamenNewUser: I am trying to diagnose a problem as being mythtv's mythtranscode or ffmpeg. Suggestions?
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[01:20:00] Agrajag-: NamenNewUser: how on earth do you expect someone to suggest something when they have no idea what this 'problem' is
[01:21:00] Agrajag-: that's like going to a doctor and saying "hey i've got this problem, it's with my arm or my hand, suggestions?"
[01:21:00] NamenNewUser: Agrajag: Perhaps a suggestion on what kind of output or tests I can run with mythtranscode and dd to verify that the output it provides is correct.
[01:21:00] NamenNewUser: maybe a protocol verification/validation test.
[01:22:00] Agrajag-: well you should isolate whatever you're doing into the two parts – get the output from mythtranscode, see if it has this "problem"
[01:22:00] Agrajag-: then that into ffmpeg and see if it has this "problem"
[01:22:00] NamenNewUser: I know I can take a bit of C or C++ code and push it therough a tokenizer and lexical analyzer to verify syntax
[01:22:00] NamenNewUser: looking for something similar for mythtranscode
[01:23:00] NamenNewUser: Ok, let;s take that direction.
[01:23:00] NamenNewUser: How should the output of transcode be verified?
[01:23:00] sphing: carefully
[01:23:00] NamenNewUser: err mythtranscode
[01:24:00] sphing: what exactly are you asking
[01:24:00] sphing: how to debug?
[01:25:00] NamenNewUser: Debug? Not really. How to verify the output provided by mythtranscode is actually what is supposed to be provided.
[01:25:00] NamenNewUser: Debugging happens after a problem is diagnosed
[01:25:00] NamenNewUser: at least after you have a target or idea on where to start.
[01:27:00] sphing: so your question is... what is valid output of mythtranscode
[01:27:00] NamenNewUser: If there are no tools to verify data format produced, that is fine.
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[01:27:00] NamenNewUser: sphing: more specific-- what tools if any exist to verify output of mythtranscode as being as it should
[01:28:00] kormoc: NamenNewUser, your eyes.
[01:28:00] NamenNewUser: SO, there are no automated tools to verify this yet.
[01:29:00] kormoc: not at all.
[01:29:00] kormoc: and there is likly never going to be.
[01:29:00] sphing: i'm very confused.... mythtranscode just converts to a raw format
[01:29:00] sphing: so what verification is needed
[01:30:00] sphing: play the file... does it look the same?
[01:30:00] kormoc: sphing, he wants to take a input file and run it though and take the output file and see if it did it correctly or not
[01:31:00] sphing: wouldn't that just be trying to play it?
[01:31:00] kormoc: yeah, but that's not automated, he wants something to just give a thumbs up or down.
[01:31:00] NamenNewUser: some players are more forgiving than others.
[01:32:00] sphing: kormoc: ahh I didn't get the automated part I was so confused....ha
[01:32:00] NamenNewUser: they will play invalid data, and occasional "bad" data can just show up as "blips" breaks, discontinuity, or abberations
[01:32:00] kormoc: and how do you tell bad data?
[01:33:00] NamenNewUser: Automation is what I do. Auotmate a task so I do not have to do it over and over.
[01:33:00] sphing: NamenNewUser: you're debugging... this isnt something that you're gonna do every 2 days
[01:34:00] NamenNewUser: sphing: true, it is somethign I will do any time this problems comes up again.
[01:34:00] kormoc: well then you could write something to do it then, but it's really complicated, esp given noone has the same test file or anything else, so you'd need to write a second version of myth transcode to compair, and what happens when yours is buggy or they both have issues?
[01:34:00] kormoc: NamenNewUser, given you havn't even said what the problem is...
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[01:35:00] sphing: the idea of debugging.. is to fix a problem... so you debug, figure the problem and fix it so it doesnt happen again
[01:35:00] NamenNewUser: kormoc: well, using two different outputs is similar to the method used by the make test in ffmpeg with checksums,
[01:35:00] Chutt: the test stuff in ffmpeg is completely useless.
[01:35:00] NamenNewUser: I've seen too many projects where similar problems resurface.
[01:35:00] Chutt: given that it changes every commit.
[01:36:00] Chutt: if you want help, describe a problem
[01:36:00] Chutt: otherwise, stop wasting people's time
[01:36:00] NamenNewUser: the ideas suggested are good enough for me.
[01:36:00] sphing: we're going in circles
[01:36:00] NamenNewUser: take a "working setup" and store and then compare
[01:36:00] ** kormoc blinks **
[01:36:00] Chutt: why would you do that?
[01:37:00] Chutt: all you get is if it works on a single file, then
[01:37:00] kormoc: for a guy who writes automated code, not thinking of using two passes is rather hard to beleive.
[01:37:00] sphing: am I the only one that feels dumber after this conversation
[01:37:00] kormoc: sphing, not at all
[01:37:00] Chutt: i do!
[01:38:00] NamenNewUser: using two passes is an option for writing code, but why re-invent the wheel if it exists?
[01:38:00] NamenNewUser: there is no tool
[01:38:00] NamenNewUser: I'll write my own.
[01:38:00] NamenNewUser: simple.
[01:38:00] NamenNewUser: But there is more effort invested in harassment than suggestion.
[01:38:00] sphing: NamenNewUser: what would you like us to suggest
[01:38:00] kormoc: but your tool would do the same thing as the current one if it's any good, and hence it only shows that you don't understand the real issue.
[01:39:00] sphing: you havent even described a problem
[01:39:00] kormoc: NamenNewUser, how about edit /etc/mythtv/myth.conf and change line 42 from buggy=yes to buggy=no.
[01:39:00] sphing: you're asking us... if there is an automated tool to help you debug
[01:39:00] NamenNewUser: sphing: If I knew what I wanted you to suggest, I probably would not have a need to ask.
[01:39:00] NamenNewUser: sphing: I asked that, and I got an answer, no.
[01:39:00] kormoc: you could describe the issue you are having.
[01:39:00] kormoc: say, when I transcode, the video that outputs has vertical black lines though it
[01:39:00] sphing: 'hey could you guys suggest a good text editor'
[01:40:00] sphing: ^ example of asking what you need
[01:40:00] down_below: sphing: vim :P
[01:40:00] NamenNewUser: ok, here is a related question.
[01:41:00] NamenNewUser: mythtranscode seems to generate about 8 times more data when exporting raw format than the original files.
[01:42:00] ** kormoc nods **
[01:42:00] NamenNewUser: It also, will eventually fail to malloc, and get killed.
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[01:42:00] NamenNewUser: somewhere areound 1.6GB
[01:42:00] NamenNewUser: why?
[01:42:00] NamenNewUser: the original .nuv file is about 800MB
[01:42:00] kormoc: raw format is expected to be very large, as it's no longer compressed, as your input file is
[01:42:00] kormoc: yes, it is compressed
[01:43:00] NamenNewUser: if a wintvpvr350 is used to generate the output, shouldn't it be stored in mpeg format?
[01:43:00] kormoc: it is, mpeg2, mpeg is a compressed format
[01:43:00] sphing: i cant believe what i'm reading
[01:43:00] soi-disant: it's not really butter?
[01:44:00] Chutt: mmm, butter
[01:44:00] soi-disant: I prefer it frozen on a stick, a buttersicle
[01:44:00] kormoc: NamenNewUser, as for your malloc issues, if it's all being stored in ram, sounds like you ran out of ram + swap space.
[01:45:00] NamenNewUser: sound slike t hat, but 2GB + @GB 4GB swap
[01:45:00] NamenNewUser: 2GB + 2GB
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[01:45:00] kormoc: and how much is used? and how much is used in file buffers or cached files?
[01:46:00] sphing: NamenNewUser: have you tried a small file
[01:46:00] NamenNewUser: system shows cached files ~300MB, and the memory for the process is around 1.6GB
[01:46:00] sphing: like record 5 mins and then try it
[01:46:00] kormoc: maybe you're hitting your syscrtl malloc limits?
[01:46:00] NamenNewUser: sphing: yep. I tried a 300 MB file and ended up with 8GB file as output before it died
[01:46:00] kormoc: or just redirect the output to the harddrive
[01:48:00] kormoc: NamenNewUser, raw video is absolutely *huge* which is why we compress it, aka mpeg, xvid, divx, qt, etc.
[01:50:00] NamenNewUser: kormoc: Ah. My mistake. I understood "raw" as being "original captured format"
[01:50:00] kormoc: for example, a 640x480x32 bit video is 1.1 mb per frame, 24 frames a sec is 28 megs a sec, or 99 gigs a hour.
[01:51:00] NamenNewUser: yes, sorry. My fault. I did not realize "Raw" was a format all its own.
[01:51:00] NamenNewUser: I'me new to video
[01:51:00] syle: whats best remote control to get?
[01:51:00] sphing: kormoc: you can handle this one
[01:52:00] kormoc: hehe
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[01:55:00] Tired_: Hi. I'm thinking about using MythTV, but I can't seem to find any documentation applicable to my hardware.
[01:55:00] Tired_: Will my experience be decent with dual 550mHz Xeons and a hardware encoder?
[01:55:00] kormoc: for just recording, aye
[01:56:00] Tired_: Oh, and 10k SCSI RAID
[01:56:00] kormoc: for playback, would more depend on your videocard.
[01:56:00] Tired_: geForce4
[01:56:00] kormoc: it would likly work quite well for SD tv, not at all for HD tv, imho
[01:56:00] Tired_: would it be sufficient to record programs to be watched on another machine, you think?
[01:56:00] Tired_: oh, i don't have HD
[01:57:00] kormoc: easily, the hardware encoder means it'd use maybe 2% cpu or so on one cpu
[01:57:00] Tired_: so the whole other cpu would be free for playback, then
[01:57:00] kormoc: hardware overlays on the videocard should take a nice chunk of the playback requirements for ya.
[01:57:00] Tired_: cool
[01:58:00] Tired_: ok, that's pretty muchg what I wanted to know. I'll be back in a few weeks when I screw it up  ;)
[01:58:00] kormoc: hehe, have fun! :)
[01:58:00] Tired_: thank you
[01:58:00] Tired_: ;)
[01:58:00] kormoc: you're welcome.
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[02:00:00] syle: strangeness
[02:00:00] syle: at one time their existed a cord that ran from your cdrom to your soundcard
[02:01:00] kormoc: there still exists such a thing
[02:01:00] NamenNewUser: yep, it is internal on many systems
[02:01:00] syle: does there? i hooked up my dvdrom normally to ide port on motherboard and i can hear sound
[02:01:00] kormoc: there's two types of interfaces now
[02:02:00] kormoc: the old style, analog, and a pure digital playback system, which most computers use now a days
[02:02:00] syle: which motherboard is obviously reading right off the ide port
[02:02:00] kormoc: way back when, the cpu wasn't fast enough to playback digital audio, hence the need for the analog connection, but now it can, so ya
[02:03:00] syle: so does it exist anymore at all on new systems?
[02:03:00] kormoc: yeah, my sony dvd-rw has the connectors for analog, and my sb live has the inputs for it.
[02:04:00] soi-disant: I recall the technology of which you speak, a red/green twisted cable and a flat 4 prong connector at both ends
[02:04:00] kormoc: yup
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[02:51:00] afrosheen: hello room
[02:52:00] afrosheen: is anyone working on a myth frontend to Streamtuner/streamripper?
[02:52:00] afrosheen: like a mythradio type of deal?
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[02:53:00] jemarcks: xris, if the frontend is playing live tv and I pause it, is the live tv buffer on the backend filled or is it on the front end?
[02:53:00] xris: jemarcks: I think it's all on the backend.
[02:53:00] afrosheen: backend
[02:53:00] afrosheen: frontend doesn't have a buffer
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[02:54:00] jemarcks: xris, ok... just setting up my frontend only box and wondered what i really need to set.
[02:54:00] afrosheen: are there ways of getting better visualizations in mythmusic? I want to get Iris installed, it's an xmms plugin
[02:54:00] jemarcks: so far it works great!
[02:55:00] jemarcks: it sure taxes my 700mhz duron however... ;)
[02:56:00] afrosheen: yeah my new box has an athlon xp2800 but it chugs once in awhile
[02:56:00] jemarcks: xris, is there a way to get the cpu utilization down on a 700mhz duron with a gf4 mx 4000?
[02:57:00] afrosheen: he's gone
[02:57:00] afrosheen: but the first thing I'd try is enabling XvMc to offload mpg decoding to the nvidia card
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[02:58:00] afrosheen: also double check your interlace filter settings, some filters are nicer than others on cpu usage
[02:58:00] jemarcks: how do i enable xvmc?
[02:59:00] afrosheen: it's in setup under TV settings, let me look
[02:59:00] afrosheen: btw are you using the nv or the nvidia driver for X
[02:59:00] jemarcks: nvidia driver
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[03:00:00] afrosheen: ok so chances are you have XvMc support
[03:03:00] afrosheen: utilities > setup > tv settings > playback >
[03:04:00] afrosheen: the hardware decoding page is what you're interested in, it's about the 5th page I think
[03:04:00] afrosheen: there's a checkbox for xvmc
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[03:07:00] afrosheen: well?
[03:07:00] afrosheen: sometimes it makes the overlays and menus go nuts so it's not perfect yet
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[03:56:00] godsmoke: sigh — I will only have to endure this horrible internet connection (which keeps dropping out) until the 12th
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[04:10:00] godsmoke: so quiet tonight
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[04:11:00] GreyFoxx: yeah, very
[04:11:00] PatrickDK: heh
[04:11:00] godsmoke: I'm very excited about the tv I'm ordering — thanks to all of the avsforum people
[04:11:00] ** GreyFoxx is finally sitting down to do some coding I've been meeing to do for days **
[04:11:00] godsmoke: GreyFoxx: what kind of coding?
[04:12:00] GreyFoxx: alterations to mythgame.
[04:13:00] GreyFoxx: I have a bunch of requests from users so I'm implementing some of them
[04:14:00] PatrickDK: heh, I just wish the record a show option was easier to use
[04:15:00] PatrickDK: I think the wife will get scared of it
[04:15:00] syle2: is this normal for you guys? you rent a movie from blockbuster , go to rip it and it takes forever , sits there saying things like error cracking css key, then eventually goes through 10 min later and you can rip it
[04:15:00] PatrickDK: sounds illegal, and like a scratched dvd
[04:15:00] jemarcks: xris, is there a way to get the cpu utilization down on a 700mhz duron frontend with a gf4 mx 4000?
[04:16:00] afrosheen: jemarcks: I guess you didn't try what I mentioned
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[04:16:00] ** afrosheen waits impatiently for word on MythRadio **
[04:17:00] afrosheen: PatrickDK: with my pvr250 + remote, I hit the red record button on anything I'm watching and bam, it's recording.
[04:17:00] xris: jemarcks: easy. turn off the machine.
[04:17:00] jemarcks: lol
[04:17:00] xris: seriously, I need more context.
[04:17:00] PatrickDK: afrosheen, that is if you wait to see it
[04:18:00] PatrickDK: we normally schedual all the shows a week or two before hand
[04:18:00] afrosheen: PatrickDK: oh, you're talking about scheduling
[04:18:00] afrosheen: mythweb might be less frightening for her
[04:19:00] jemarcks: xris, when i watch live tv or a recording on my remote frontend only box, the cpu is hammered at a load of 1.5.
[04:19:00] PatrickDK: jer, that doesn't mean much
[04:19:00] PatrickDK: other than more than one program is wanting to run at one time
[04:20:00] PatrickDK: I normally have a veryhigh load value
[04:20:00] PatrickDK: but low cpu usage
[04:20:00] jemarcks: hmm...
[04:20:00] afrosheen: my backend/frontend box with this athlon 2800 is recording right now and using a grand total of 16.6% processor
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[04:20:00] afrosheen: and I'm watching the stream
[04:20:00] jemarcks: that seems reasonable
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[04:20:00] PatrickDK: I'm running right now with 4% cpu usage, and a load of 12
[04:20:00] PatrickDK: on a dual 1.4ghz
[04:20:00] godsmoke_: sigh
[04:20:00] afrosheen: yeah so something is wrong with his box
[04:21:00] afrosheen: unless the frontend works alot harder than the backend..which doesn't seem right
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[04:21:00] afrosheen: jemarcks: run top and see what's eating cpu
[04:21:00] jemarcks: k.... hang on.
[04:22:00] syle2: illegal you obviously don;t know how to exercise your "fair use" rights under copyright law to either "time-shift" or "space-shift" DVD content which you may have purchased legitimately
[04:22:00] syle2: is this normal for you guys? you rent a movie from blockbuster , go to rip it and it takes forever , sits there saying things like error cracking css key, then eventually goes through 10 min later and you can rip it
[04:23:00] PatrickDK: syle2, those would be bad sectors
[04:23:00] jemarcks: afrosheen, mythfrontend is eating 70%... load avg is 1.6
[04:23:00] godsmoke: syle2: you're talking about illegal conduct — which is quite banned from this channel
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[04:23:00] afrosheen: jemarcks: yeah it shouldn't be eating that much
[04:23:00] PatrickDK: perpossly inserted errors onto the dvd
[04:23:00] Chutt: and you obviously don't know that 'purchased ligetimately' doesn't mean 'rented from blockbuster'
[04:23:00] PatrickDK: that make is so you have to keep retrying to read that sector to copy it
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[04:24:00] jemarcks: afrosheen, hence my question
[04:24:00] ** NB_Ubuntu is trying to figure out how to get svideo out to work right **
[04:24:00] godsmoke: the linux dvd toolkit is quite sad — it has serious readerror issues
[04:24:00] afrosheen: NB_Ubuntu: svideo on what, tv out for some card?
[04:24:00] NB_Ubuntu: afrosheen, yes, it's a GeForce 3 ti
[04:24:00] afrosheen: NB_Ubuntu: you installed the real nvidia driver and it's loading right
[04:24:00] NB_Ubuntu: I have no idea
[04:25:00] NB_Ubuntu: afrosheen, how would I go about checking that?
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[04:25:00] afrosheen: NB_Ubuntu: uh... 'cat /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | grep nvidia'
[04:25:00] jemarcks: afrosheen, maybe there is a nvidia option or switch i can set to get the mx4000 to do more of the decode work?
[04:25:00] NB_Ubuntu: I probably don't
[04:25:00] NB_Ubuntu: ok
[04:25:00] godsmoke: NB_Ubuntu: if you don't know — then you didn't
[04:25:00] godsmoke: the nvidia driver is closed source
[04:25:00] afrosheen: so it's never included on a cd
[04:25:00] godsmoke: you've gotta download it fom nvidia directly
[04:25:00] NB_Ubuntu: ok
[04:25:00] afrosheen: well it's apt-gettable for ubuntu/kubuntu
[04:26:00] NB_Ubuntu: how should I go about getting it?
[04:26:00] afrosheen: I think it's apt-get install nvidia-glx or something close to that
[04:26:00] godsmoke: yes, but their packages are rarely the newest
[04:26:00] afrosheen: crack open synaptic and type nvidia
[04:26:00] afrosheen: ubuntu is different than debian
[04:26:00] NB_Ubuntu: already newest version
[04:26:00] godsmoke: and with the experimental nvidia stuff — I always use the newest
[04:26:00] afrosheen: xvmc plays like crap here, I had to turn it off
[04:27:00] NB_Ubuntu: afrosheen, synaptic?
[04:27:00] syle2: An example of time-shifting would be to temporarily store the data from a DVD you rented so as to watch it at a later time after you have returned the disc (and avoided late fees!).
[04:27:00] afrosheen: NB_Ubuntu: wow you are really new to linux huh ;)
[04:27:00] Chutt: syle2, no, that's an example of theft
[04:27:00] NB_Ubuntu: afrosheen, very much so
[04:27:00] afrosheen: NB_Ubuntu: from a commandline, su to root then type synaptic and hit enter
[04:27:00] godsmoke: well, there are plenty of better places to learn about linux
[04:27:00] syle2: chutt then your obviously not a lawyer
[04:27:00] syle2: no its not
[04:28:00] Chutt: no, but obviously, neither are you
[04:28:00] godsmoke: obviously you can't spell "you're"
[04:28:00] godsmoke: so, I don't trust your legal advice
[04:28:00] godsmoke: I think that that's pretty fair
[04:28:00] syle2: http://www.greekapple.com/modules/mydownloads/
[04:28:00] afrosheen: syle2: the only way that would be legal is if your local copy expired after you watched it once
[04:28:00] syle2: well here you go
[04:28:00] Chutt: you're taking legal advice from a russian website?
[04:28:00] afrosheen: since a rental constitutes a one time private viewing
[04:28:00] Chutt: yeah, that's a great way to go about doing things
[04:29:00] afrosheen: NB_Ubuntu: any luck?
[04:29:00] NB_Ubuntu: godsmoke, I know that there are better places to learn about linux. I'm not here to learn about linux(though I do plan on doing so eventually). I would just like to get my myth box up and working
[04:29:00] godsmoke: heh
[04:29:00] NB_Ubuntu: afrosheen, I'm trying to figure out what I need to do next
[04:29:00] syle2: you think dvdbackup would spit out illegal advise
[04:29:00] afrosheen: NB_Ubuntu: did synaptic open?
[04:29:00] travolta: how many times can you watch that time-shifted dvd ?
[04:29:00] NB_Ubuntu: yeah
[04:30:00] godsmoke: NB_Ubuntu: one sort of requires the other with the path you've chosen — if you want a livecd system, it'll do much more of that
[04:30:00] afrosheen: NB_Ubuntu: edit > search > nvidia
[04:31:00] syle2: time shifting doesn;t have limits
[04:31:00] syle2: its temporary
[04:31:00] godsmoke: syle2: stop pitching this nonsense
[04:31:00] syle2: meaning after your done watching it you would delete it
[04:31:00] godsmoke: none of us are lawers
[04:31:00] godsmoke: lawyers*
[04:31:00] godsmoke: almost every "temporary" clause in the law has an implied limit
[04:31:00] afrosheen: yeah, if you ripped it, watched it once then deleted it, that's within your rights
[04:31:00] Chutt: fair use only applies to stuff you own
[04:31:00] godsmoke: now, I think it's time to end this baseless one-sided argument
[04:32:00] Chutt: you don't own a rental
[04:32:00] syle2: yeah well try to explain that to these numnuts lol
[04:32:00] afrosheen: Chutt is right, you don't own it, you pay for the privilege of a time limited private viewing
[04:32:00] syle2: i give up
[04:32:00] Chutt: http://www.nyfairuse.org/fairuse.xhtml
[04:32:00] afrosheen: now if you BUY it and rip it, that's well within your rights
[04:33:00] godsmoke: not without buying a licensed decoder it's not
[04:33:00] godsmoke: that was the whole linux ripping dvds you own issue
[04:34:00] afrosheen: well I personally think that's nonsense
[04:34:00] syle2: godsmoke are you like 18 man
[04:34:00] godsmoke: afrosheen: so does everyone else
[04:34:00] afrosheen: regardless of the OS you buy it, you can watch it
[04:34:00] syle2: you don;t even sound like a business man, first rule is always don;t get caught
[04:34:00] godsmoke: syle2: you stopped making sense about 15 minutes ago
[04:34:00] afrosheen: that's like telling someone if they don't buy a Sony CD player they can't listen to their CD in a Pioneer
[04:35:00] godsmoke: afrosheen: actually, no, that's not how the law reads for dvds
[04:35:00] syle2: your ignorant attitude isn;t needed
[04:35:00] syle2: all you sound like is a momma;s boy
[04:35:00] afrosheen: well implying that Sony has a special chip required toplay the media
[04:36:00] afrosheen: anyway I own a bunch of dvds and I can't get them to rip on my new myth box, transcode daemon is puking
[04:36:00] afrosheen: dvd playback is jerky every half second also
[04:36:00] syle2: what is mtd reporting?
[04:37:00] afrosheen: can't jack with it right now since it's recording
[04:37:00] syle2: mine seems to puke to on some dvd's
[04:37:00] afrosheen: it's on blackhawk down
[04:37:00] syle2: but after 10 min it does go through
[04:37:00] afrosheen: naw, mine waits and waits then eventually pukes
[04:38:00] syle2: start mtd --daemon from a session , then rip dvd, then check output
[04:38:00] syle2: see whats happening
[04:38:00] afrosheen: I'm watching mtd right now
[04:38:00] afrosheen: hmm the disc has invalid IFOs
[04:39:00] syle2: i get that sometimes to, doesn;t really matter long as it can read the real movie files
[04:39:00] afrosheen: what's with the jerky playback
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[04:40:00] syle2: what cpu speed?
[04:40:00] afrosheen: plenty, athlon xp2800
[04:41:00] godsmoke: verified that the disk is fine in another computer?
[04:42:00] afrosheen: yeah it plays fine, no scratches...it's one of my collection
[04:42:00] syle2: jerky playback, you trrying to watch it while its ripping?
[04:42:00] afrosheen: I could dvdshrink it first, then mount it as a loopback, then rip it but what a hassle
[04:42:00] afrosheen: no, playback separately from ripping
[04:43:00] syle2: hdparm -d1 -c1 -X34 -u1 /dev/hdc
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[04:43:00] jemarcks: afrosheen, you can enable XvMC in one of the myth setup screens
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[04:44:00] afrosheen: jemarcks: yeah I know, and it blows on my machine for some reason
[04:44:00] jemarcks: hmmm.... no good eh?
[04:44:00] afrosheen: syle2: assuming that hdc is my dvd burner on that box :)
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[04:44:00] jemarcks: what does it do?
[04:44:00] NB_Ubuntu: ugh
[04:44:00] afrosheen: jemarcks: yeah it breaks all the menus, everything flickers like crazy overlaid on live tv
[04:44:00] NB_Ubuntu: ok, so now that that is better..
[04:45:00] afrosheen: NB_Ubuntu: did you install the nvidia driver?
[04:45:00] jemarcks: hmmm.. thats what i read on the mailing list search results.
[04:46:00] afrosheen: jemarcks: well, if it works for you, have a cookie :)
[04:46:00] jemarcks: thx
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[04:46:00] jemarcks: afrosheen, im just looking for a way to get the cpu load down on my 700mhz amd duron frontend only box
[04:46:00] syle2: hdc should be a symlink to /dev/dvd on your system
[04:47:00] syle2: err other way around on fedora i guess
[04:47:00] syle2: anyone use freebsd?
[04:47:00] afrosheen: this is on knoppmyth
[04:48:00] afrosheen: and yeah, /dev/cdrom is aliased to hdc
[04:48:00] syle2: never tried it, isn;t that just some linux ISO image of someone's working mythtv install
[04:48:00] afrosheen: no, it's got an installer and a bunch of other stuff with it
[04:48:00] syle2: what version of linux?
[04:48:00] afrosheen: works like a champ for the most part, just ironing out the bumps now
[04:49:00] syle2: err distro
[04:49:00] afrosheen: some flavor of debian hence the knopp — knoppix
[04:49:00] syle2: no idea i like the devil over the penguin hehe
[04:50:00] syle2: well does your playback problem happen only when watching live tv
[04:50:00] syle2: or when playing recorded things as well
[04:50:00] afrosheen: the playback problem of dvd's being jerky is just dvd's
[04:51:00] afrosheen: I'd like to see if playing a rip changes that but it won't rip
[04:51:00] syle2: you sure its not reading cause of region info settings
[04:51:00] afrosheen: it'll play but won't rip so I'm not sure where it's boogered
[04:52:00] afrosheen: should be region 1 but I don't remember if I ever set it
[04:52:00] NB_Ubuntu: afrosheen, yes the nvidia driver is installed
[04:52:00] syle2: your going to need to pastebin your mtd output then
[04:52:00] afrosheen: NB_Ubuntu: ok you need to edit your xorg.conf or XF86Config-4 file in /etc/X11 next
[04:53:00] syle2: along with any dmesg reports to do with your cdrom
[04:53:00] NB_Ubuntu: afrosheen, do I not need to install nvtv?
[04:54:00] afrosheen: syle2: ok hang on
[04:54:00] afrosheen: NB_Ubuntu: no, that's old school, you probably don't need it
[04:54:00] NB_Ubuntu: ok
[04:54:00] NB_Ubuntu: ok, I have xorg.conf opened
[04:54:00] afrosheen: NB_Ubuntu: opened it as the root user right?
[04:55:00] NB_Ubuntu: yeah
[04:55:00] afrosheen: NB_Ubuntu: alright, find the Driver "nvidia" line
[04:55:00] NB_Ubuntu: yeap
[04:55:00] afrosheen: ok paste this stuff in below that line
[04:56:00] afrosheen: Option "TVStandard" "NTSC-M"
[04:56:00] afrosheen: Option "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO"
[04:56:00] afrosheen: Option "TVOverScan" "0.5"
[04:56:00] afrosheen: Option "RenderAccel" "1"
[04:56:00] afrosheen: the renderaccel is questionable but the rest should be fine
[04:57:00] NB_Ubuntu: is it ok if I use a tab instead of spaces?
[04:57:00] afrosheen: it's all the same
[04:57:00] NB_Ubuntu: ok
[04:57:00] afrosheen: what kind of tv is this being connected to
[04:57:00] syle2: don;t forget xvattr -a XV_COLORKEY -v 66048
[04:57:00] NB_Ubuntu: a phillips tv
[04:58:00] afrosheen: syle2: what's that for
[04:58:00] afrosheen: NB_Ubuntu: so nothing special like an hdtv or anything?
[04:58:00] syle2: its to get rid of that blue line around left and top edges when watching live tv
[04:58:00] afrosheen: syle2: ha, I was wondering about that thing, where does that line go
[04:58:00] NB_Ubuntu: no, just plane ol tv
[04:58:00] NB_Ubuntu: a big one, but nothing that fancy
[04:59:00] afrosheen: NB_Ubuntu: ok next find the line with Depth 24 in it
[04:59:00] syle2: you make it black
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[04:59:00] afrosheen: syle2: yeah..but where does that command go
[04:59:00] NB_Ubuntu: ok
[04:59:00] syle2: i have a shell script personally for kde
[05:00:00] syle2: .kde/Autostart/myth-load.sh
[05:00:00] afrosheen: NB_Ubuntu: remove all the resolutions except for 800x600 and 640x480 there
[05:00:00] afrosheen: NB_Ubuntu: where it says Modes just below that line
[05:00:00] syle2: #!/bin/bash
[05:00:00] syle2: # Load nVidia driver custom settings
[05:00:00] syle2: nvidia-settings --load-config-only &
[05:00:00] syle2: # Stop the Nvidia blue line problem
[05:00:00] syle2: xvattr -a XV_COLORKEY -v 66048
[05:00:00] syle2: # Launch myth frontend
[05:00:00] syle2: mythfrontend &
[05:00:00] NB_Ubuntu: even 720x450 and 720x400?
[05:00:00] syle2: exit
[05:00:00] afrosheen: NB_Ubuntu: just in that one section below Default 24
[05:00:00] NB_Ubuntu: yeah
[05:00:00] NB_Ubuntu: remove those two modes as well?
[05:01:00] afrosheen: go ahead and leave them for now
[05:01:00] NB_Ubuntu: ok
[05:01:00] NB_Ubuntu: anything else?
[05:01:00] afrosheen: those sound like tv friendly modes
[05:01:00] NB_Ubuntu: they do
[05:01:00] afrosheen: that's it, save that file and restart X
[05:01:00] NB_Ubuntu: whats the best way of doing that?
[05:01:00] syle2: if you do;t know how to do that
[05:01:00] afrosheen: ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:01:00] syle2: go to root shell
[05:01:00] syle2: init 3
[05:01:00] syle2: then init 5
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[05:01:00] afrosheen: yep it worked
[05:02:00] afrosheen: he's probably panicking for a few seconds
[05:02:00] godsmoke: haha
[05:02:00] afrosheen: omgwtfbbq!
[05:02:00] afrosheen: oh, there's the nvidia logo, yay
[05:03:00] afrosheen: I think there was one more trick to tvout
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[05:03:00] NB_Ubuntu: hm..
[05:03:00] afrosheen: oh yeah the lilo edit for vga
[05:03:00] syle2: i had a beer and a smoke when i saw it for first time out my svideo
[05:03:00] NB_Ubuntu: ok, svideo out didn't do anything
[05:03:00] afrosheen: NB_Ubuntu: anything?
[05:03:00] syle2: although i had to spend an hour with the kernel modules to figure out why shit wasn;t in right place
[05:03:00] afrosheen: NB_Ubuntu: as root, do lsmod | grep nvidia, see if you get anything
[05:04:00] NB_Ubuntu: yeah, I got two responces
[05:04:00] NB_Ubuntu: an nvidia and agpgart
[05:04:00] afrosheen: well then we know the drivers are loaded for a fact
[05:04:00] afrosheen: wonder why your tvout hasn't been activated
[05:05:00] NB_Ubuntu: yeah, and I see a little nvidia logo when I start up
[05:05:00] syle2: did you init 3 and init 5?
[05:05:00] afrosheen: it may be different on the older cards...can't remember where the example file is for this
[05:05:00] NB_Ubuntu: syle2, no
[05:05:00] syle2: ctl-alt-backspace is only going to send you to gdm or kdm screen i beleive
[05:06:00] NB_Ubuntu: ok, so how should I go about doing that then?
[05:06:00] NB_Ubuntu: I have a feeling doing it in a root console will cause funky things to happen
[05:06:00] syle2: alt-F1
[05:06:00] syle2: login to normal console mode
[05:06:00] NB_Ubuntu: ok
[05:06:00] syle2: alt-f7 to switch back to xserver
[05:06:00] syle2: after init 5
[05:07:00] syle2: alt-F1 or alt-ctrl-F1
[05:07:00] syle2: can;t remember
[05:07:00] NB_Ubuntu: alt-F1 brings up the Applications menu
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[05:07:00] afrosheen: yeah it'd be ctrl-alt-f1
[05:08:00] afrosheen: there's one more line you can try adding to your XF86Config or xorg conf file here
[05:08:00] afrosheen: Option "ConnectedMonitor" "TV"
[05:09:00] syle2: this is my working xorg.conf
[05:09:00] syle2: Driver "nvidia"
[05:09:00] syle2: VendorName "Videocard vendor"
[05:09:00] syle2: BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce FX (generic)"
[05:09:00] syle2: Option "TVStandard" "NTSC-M"
[05:09:00] syle2: Option "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO"
[05:09:00] NB_Ubuntu: ok
[05:09:00] NB_Ubuntu: I did the init 3 and init 5
[05:10:00] syle2: and?
[05:10:00] syle2: well i beleive ctrl-alt-F1 to get out of Xserver but only need alt-F7 to get back to Xserver
[05:11:00] NB_Ubuntu: nothing
[05:11:00] NB_Ubuntu: would I have to restart xserver? or...
[05:11:00] afrosheen: try that line I mentioned
[05:12:00] syle2: init 3 stops X server
[05:12:00] NB_Ubuntu: ok
[05:12:00] syle2: init 5 starts it again
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[05:12:00] syle2: are you using svideo to your tv?
[05:12:00] NB_Ubuntu: ok, I put that in... try the init commands again?
[05:12:00] NB_Ubuntu: syle, yes
[05:12:00] syle2: have you checked svideo works first by connecting up your box there
[05:13:00] syle2: xbox
[05:13:00] syle2: or whatever
[05:13:00] NB_Ubuntu: it was displaying the bios
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[05:13:00] NB_Ubuntu: but then after awhile it stoped doing that...
[05:13:00] syle2: do you have any references to nvidia in /etc/modprobe.conf?
[05:13:00] NB_Ubuntu: it wasn't displaying to the tv monitor, and it wasn't displaying properly to the tv even then once linux started up
[05:14:00] NB_Ubuntu: there isn't a modprobe.conf
[05:14:00] NB_Ubuntu: modprobe.d
[05:14:00] NB_Ubuntu: but nothing in there either
[05:14:00] syle2: ls -al /etc/rc.d/init.d
[05:14:00] syle2: see anything nvidia related
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[05:15:00] NB_Ubuntu: which rc?
[05:15:00] NB_Ubuntu: I see rc
[05:15:00] NB_Ubuntu: er..
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[05:15:00] NB_Ubuntu: rc0.d, rc1.d, etc
[05:15:00] NB_Ubuntu: up to 6, and then an S as well
[05:15:00] syle2: ls -al /etc/rc.d/init.d
[05:16:00] NB_Ubuntu: there is no rc.d file
[05:16:00] NB_Ubuntu: er... directory
[05:16:00] syle2: what distro u using?
[05:16:00] NB_Ubuntu: ubuntu
[05:16:00] syle2: blah
[05:16:00] syle2: find / -name nvidia*
[05:17:00] syle2: find out how your nvidia is starting up
[05:17:00] NB_Ubuntu: /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx
[05:17:00] syle2: more /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx
[05:17:00] NB_Ubuntu: what am I looking for?
[05:17:00] syle2: case $kernel in
[05:17:00] syle2: 4) module=/lib/modules/"`uname -r`"/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidia.o ;;
[05:18:00] syle2: your checking to see it finds kernel modules in right place
[05:18:00] syle2: that was what problem with me was
[05:18:00] NB_Ubuntu: there is a case "$1"
[05:18:00] NB_Ubuntu: but no case $kernel
[05:19:00] syle2: look where there are nvidia.o lines
[05:19:00] syle2: or .ko
[05:19:00] NB_Ubuntu: don't see it
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[05:20:00] syle2: k well good luck, took me an hour of constant changes to xorg.conf and init 3 init 5's to get it going
[05:21:00] NB_Ubuntu: :-\
[05:22:00] ** NB_Ubuntu checks out nvtv **
[05:22:00] syle2: after you reboot
[05:22:00] syle2: does lsmod|grep -i nvidia show it there?
[05:23:00] syle2: cause if it does, then its simply getting your xorg.conf file right
[05:23:00] syle2: Option "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO"
[05:23:00] syle2: [22:09] <NB_Ubuntu> ok
[05:23:00] syle2: i hope you have that
[05:23:00] syle2: [22:09] <syle2> Option "TVStandard" "NTSC-M"
[05:23:00] syle2: [22:09] <syle2> Option "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO"
[05:24:00] NB_Ubuntu: yes I do
[05:25:00] syle2: ok i am going to do you a favor
[05:25:00] syle2: going to pastebin mine
[05:25:00] syle2: just replace it with yours ok
[05:25:00] syle2: then try it
[05:25:00] NB_Ubuntu: ok
[05:27:00] syle2: http://pastebin.ca/22351
[05:28:00] syle2: give it a shot
[05:28:00] syle2: brb
[05:28:00] syle2: backup your old copy
[05:28:00] NB_Ubuntu: yeah
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[05:30:00] NB_Ubuntu: ok... going to init things again
[05:31:00] NB_Ubuntu: ok... waiting for chance to check...
[05:31:00] NB_Ubuntu: (Roommate is playing xbox..)
[05:32:00] NB_Ubuntu: curses
[05:32:00] NB_Ubuntu: no good
[05:32:00] syle2: reboot to make sure
[05:33:00] NB_Ubuntu: ok, hold on
[05:34:00] syle2: in init 3
[05:34:00] syle2: lsmod|grep nvidia should show nothing
[05:34:00] syle2: if you don;t want to reboot
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[05:34:00] syle2: if it does
[05:34:00] syle2: rmmod nvidia
[05:34:00] syle2: modprobe nvidia
[05:35:00] syle2: its worse with ivtv lol
[05:35:00] syle2: then you need to almost reboot to make any changes lol
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[05:36:00] syle2: or you got a shitload of modules to rmmod on all the time
[05:36:00] syle2: the fun of making shit work in linux
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[05:37:00] NB_Ubuntu: hm...
[05:37:00] NB_Ubuntu: says it can't because nvidia is in use
[05:38:00] NB_Ubuntu: so apparently init 3 isn't shutting down x for some reason...
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[05:41:00] GreyFoxx: syle: You could just make an initscript for loading the ivtv drivers and removing. them. I just call rc.ivtv stop  ; make my changes; then rc.ivtv start to reload/reconfigure
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[05:42:00] afrosheen: NB_Ubuntu: just reboot then
[05:42:00] NB_Ubuntu: ok
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[06:10:00] Ediehow: hi friends
[06:12:00] dmz: howdy y'all. just got my pvr500, booted 1st time with 350 & 500. now X doesn't seem to like my manually configured busid since it says No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:2:8:0) found
[06:12:00] Ediehow: you mean for your video card?
[06:12:00] Ediehow: or the pvr?
[06:12:00] dmz: BusID "PCI:1:b:0" — 000:01:0b.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC15 MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
[06:12:00] dmz: for video card on pvr
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[06:12:00] Ediehow: anyone using lirc w/serial w/remote?
[06:12:00] Ediehow: video card on pvr?
[06:12:00] Ediehow: err
[06:12:00] Ediehow: you plug your monitor into pvr?
[06:13:00] dmz: no it's having an X problem. i'm on a console port
[06:13:00] Ediehow: yeah, that bus id error would be more relevant for video card
[06:13:00] dmz: X says it can't find the device, it is complaining about it at a BusID different than what i manualy said
[06:13:00] dmz: X is complaining...so no tvout
[06:13:00] Ediehow: maybe try commenting out reference to busid
[06:13:00] Ediehow: in xorg.conf
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[06:13:00] Ediehow: and see what happens
[06:13:00] ip_goat_rodeo: sure you're picking up the right config file?
[06:14:00] dmz: yes it was working, only 1 config file
[06:14:00] dmz: put in 550 so it modified bus settings
[06:14:00] Ediehow: BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
[06:14:00] dmz: changed busid & it still doesn't like me
[06:14:00] Ediehow: i don't understand, why are you changing your busid in reference to your pvr card?>
[06:14:00] dmz: because i added a pvr500 on top of the existing pvr350
[06:14:00] Ediehow: i have a pvr-150
[06:15:00] dmz: and it modified bus settings
[06:15:00] dmz: 350 has tvout
[06:15:00] madgino: Im sure this has been asked a million times, which case do I buy
[06:15:00] madgino: :)
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[06:15:00] dmz: so i have my video out through the 350
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[06:15:00] dmz: nm, i'll just play with it
[06:15:00] Ediehow: and you have to edit xorg.conf for that?
[06:15:00] dmz: no XF86Config-4
[06:15:00] Ediehow: my video card has tv-out, not my pvr
[06:15:00] Ediehow: oh, you aren't using xorg?
[06:16:00] Ediehow: what distro are you using?
[06:16:00] GreyFoxx: Ediehow: the pvr350 has TVout and an X driver for displaying X on it. I think it requires you have the right busid info in the config file
[06:16:00] Ediehow: k
[06:16:00] ** NightBird sighs **
[06:16:00] ** NightBird gives up **
[06:16:00] NightBird: at least for tonight
[06:16:00] Ediehow: anyone using lirc w/serial w/remote?
[06:17:00] syle2: where does mtd come from?
[06:17:00] Ediehow: a mother and father mtd
[06:17:00] Ediehow: ;)
[06:17:00] NightBird: nice
[06:18:00] syle2: can;t say i would edie
[06:18:00] syle2: usb is much better
[06:18:00] Ediehow: but i don
[06:18:00] Ediehow: 't have a usb one:(
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[06:19:00] Ediehow: /etc/rc.d/init.d/lircd status
[06:19:00] Ediehow: lircd dead but subsys locked
[06:19:00] Ediehow: :O
[06:20:00] Ediehow: is there a simple setup page for lirc and mythtv
[06:20:00] Ediehow: so i can use my remote?
[06:21:00] NightBird: hm...
[06:22:00] Ediehow: lircd won't stay running
[06:22:00] NightBird: would me haveing my monitor plugged into the video card affect the s-video out thing?
[06:22:00] Ediehow: ohhhhhhh
[06:22:00] Ediehow: cat /dev/ttySO
[06:22:00] Ediehow: cat: /dev/ttySO: No such file or directory
[06:22:00] ** GreyFoxx has avoided using lirc. I've seen too many complaints over the years **
[06:22:00] GreyFoxx: err shouldn't that be ttyS0 (zero not 0) ?
[06:23:00] Ediehow: wiios
[06:23:00] Ediehow: woops
[06:23:00] Ediehow: cat /dev/ttyS0
[06:23:00] Ediehow: lircd/lircdm won't stay running
[06:23:00] Ediehow: irw
[06:23:00] Ediehow: connect: Connection refused
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[06:24:00] Ediehow: i will upgrade lirc
[06:24:00] Ediehow: i think my rpm may be bad
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[06:25:00] Ediehow: shoot
[06:26:00] Ediehow: i can't remember if it's 0x3f8 or what
[06:26:00] Ediehow: how do i see what /dev/ttyS0 is?
[06:26:00] Ediehow: nm
[06:27:00] madgino: can anyone give a link to a case comparasion
[06:27:00] Ediehow: case?
[06:27:00] madgino: yeah case
[06:27:00] madgino: htpc case
[06:27:00] madgino: umm... you put all the goodies in it
[06:27:00] madgino: you heard of them before yeah?
[06:28:00] Ediehow: like the cube?
[06:28:00] madgino: yeah
[06:28:00] madgino: the cube / box / retangle thingo
[06:28:00] madgino: know of any good ones?
[06:29:00] Ediehow: icebox or icecube is good
[06:29:00] Ediehow: my dad has one
[06:29:00] Ediehow: the tiny computers, right?
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[06:40:00] Ediehow: what am i doing wrong here?
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[06:56:00] Ediehow: hi
[06:57:00] Ediehow: i almost have my lirc working COMPLETELY with mythtv now, except for turning power on/off!
[06:57:00] Ediehow: this is what is generated
[06:57:00] Ediehow: 000000000000002f 00 Power PinnacleSysPCTVRemote
[06:57:00] Ediehow: so in .lircrc i have this
[06:57:00] Ediehow: begin
[06:57:00] Ediehow: prog = mythtv
[06:57:00] Ediehow: button = Power
[06:57:00] Ediehow: repeat = 4
[06:57:00] Ediehow: config = /usr/local/bin/mythpowerbutton.sh
[06:57:00] Ediehow: end
[06:57:00] Ediehow: so why is that script not being run?
[06:58:00] syle2: what do i put as user pass for mythmovietime?
[06:59:00] syle2: edie cause your gay
[06:59:00] Agrajag-: Ediehow: why have you put 'mythtv' as the prog?
[06:59:00] Ediehow: syle: thx sir
[07:00:00] Ediehow: Agrajag-: that's what i got from the howto
[07:00:00] Ediehow: Agrajag-: the other buttons work:O
[07:02:00] Ediehow: syle2: user/pass is ure/gay
[07:02:00] Agrajag-: ok.. well have you got the button correct? (does irw tell you Power?)
[07:02:00] Agrajag-: does that script exist? does it get run?
[07:02:00] Ediehow: 000000000000002f 00 Power PinnacleSysPCTVRemote
[07:03:00] Ediehow: that's what irw tells me
[07:03:00] Agrajag-: yeah that's fine then
[07:03:00] Ediehow: then
[07:03:00] Ediehow: the script says
[07:03:00] Agrajag-: check if the script is actually getting run
[07:03:00] Ediehow: well, if i run script by itself, it works
[07:03:00] Ediehow: but it's not getting run, it seems
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[07:03:00] Ediehow: http://pastebin.com/357710
[07:04:00] Ediehow: if i run script by itself, it turns on, or turns off
[07:04:00] Ediehow: the .lircrc is used for whatever user runs irw, right?
[07:05:00] Ediehow: if user joe runs irw, /home/joe/.lircrc is used, correct?
[07:05:00] Agrajag-: yeah
[07:05:00] Ediehow: http://pastebin.com/357712
[07:05:00] Ediehow: there's my .lircrc
[07:06:00] Agrajag-: hang on.. if you're using internal lirc support, shouldn't it be ~/.mythtv/lircrc?
[07:07:00] Ediehow: well
[07:07:00] Ediehow: that is symlinked to /home/user/.lircrc
[07:08:00] Agrajag-: oh ok
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[07:08:00] Agrajag-: i think you want irxevent
[07:08:00] Ediehow: i don't think i need that
[07:08:00] Ediehow: cuz
[07:08:00] Ediehow: i am using internal
[07:08:00] Agrajag-: because im pretty sure mythtv doesn't know what to do with config = /usr/local/bin/mythpowerbutton.sh as an argument
[07:09:00] Ediehow: so what do i do?
[07:09:00] Ediehow: just have irxevent running too?
[07:09:00] Agrajag-: i guess. perhaps there's a better way to do it, let me see
[07:09:00] Ediehow: see look
[07:10:00] Ediehow: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/tips.php
[07:10:00] Ediehow: that's where i got it from
[07:10:00] Ediehow: oh wait
[07:10:00] Agrajag-: irexec :)
[07:10:00] Ediehow: i thought i saw some using mythtv
[07:10:00] Agrajag-: nah, it can't
[07:11:00] Ediehow: ok, that works
[07:11:00] Agrajag-: mythtv is expecting a keyboard input command
[07:11:00] Ediehow: thanks!
[07:13:00] Ediehow: hmm, now it's not working again
[07:13:00] Ediehow: it was working
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[07:15:00] Ediehow: :(
[07:15:00] Ediehow: mannnnnn i don't get it
[07:15:00] Ediehow: it was working
[07:16:00] Ediehow: i don't get it! it's not working again:(((((((((
[07:18:00] Agrajag-: is irexec running?
[07:18:00] Ediehow: yeah, i don't get it
[07:18:00] Ediehow: i just had it running
[07:18:00] Ediehow: when irw and irexec were runnin gin terminal
[07:18:00] Ediehow: and now power button doesn't work again
[07:18:00] Ediehow: but channel buttons do
[07:18:00] Ediehow: it's like, if it doesn't show it running in terminal, it won't run
[07:18:00] Ediehow: the power thing
[07:19:00] Agrajag-: restart the frontend?
[07:19:00] Ediehow: ps ps auxw |grep irexec
[07:19:00] Ediehow: david 19894 0.0 0.1 3940 592 pts/4 R+ 00:19 0:00 grep irexec
[07:19:00] Ediehow: ps auxw |grep irw
[07:19:00] Ediehow: david 19579 0.0 0.0 1404 284 ? S 00:16 0:00 /usr/local/bin/irw
[07:19:00] Agrajag-: so uh.. irexec isn't running?
[07:20:00] Ediehow: wait a sec
[07:20:00] Ediehow: i wonder if it's my script
[07:21:00] Ediehow: which should i run first, irw or irexec?
[07:21:00] Agrajag-: i dont think it matters
[07:21:00] Agrajag-: you dont need irw running anyway
[07:21:00] Ediehow: i don't?
[07:21:00] Agrajag-: no, that's just for debugging
[07:22:00] Ediehow: thx:)
[07:22:00] Ediehow: ok, i got it now
[07:22:00] Ediehow: thx sir
[07:22:00] Ediehow: very much
[07:22:00] Agrajag-: no worries
[07:22:00] Ediehow: cya
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[07:39:00] Theo: Hello, I'm using MythTV & MythMusic 0.18.1 on Gentoo. When I try to play music files, the frontend crashes, giving the debug error: "playlist.o: Taking a 0 (zero) off a playlist"
[07:58:00] afrosheen: mythmusic?!
[07:58:00] afrosheen: where
[07:59:00] afrosheen: kidding for a second I thought it was mythradio
[07:59:00] ** afrosheen goes back to being less confused **
[08:00:00] afrosheen: do any of you campers want some smores?
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[08:14:00] afrosheen: does anyone know how to add more visualizations?
[08:15:00] afrosheen: goom is kinda cool but I miss Iris
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[08:25:00] dmz: arrrrgh
[08:26:00] ** dmz finally gets the pvr booting with xf86 working on 350 out and input (cable + svideo working), then add pvr500 and whenever i add the devices (even if i don't have anything assigned to them, video1, video2) then all areas of video0 stop working! **
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[08:39:00] Ediehow: Agrajag-: you there?
[08:41:00] Agrajag-: yep
[08:41:00] Ediehow: everything works but
[08:41:00] Agrajag-: for about 3 minutes then it's home time
[08:41:00] Ediehow: volume changes have no effect
[08:41:00] Agrajag-: :P
[08:41:00] Ediehow: it shows up on screen
[08:41:00] Ediehow: but it has no effect on volume
[08:41:00] Ediehow: it shows when i hit mute
[08:41:00] Ediehow: and it shows the volume levels going up and down when i do that
[08:41:00] Ediehow: but nothing changes
[08:42:00] Agrajag-: paste your config again?
[08:42:00] Agrajag-: oh wait
[08:42:00] Agrajag-: are you using internal mythtv mixer?
[08:42:00] Ediehow: where do i check for that again?
[08:42:00] Agrajag-: make sure you have the right mixer device and stuff set
[08:42:00] Agrajag-: i dunno, somewhere in the frontend setup
[08:42:00] Ediehow: it's not mythtvsetup?
[08:42:00] Agrajag-: nah
[08:42:00] Agrajag-: if you're using alsa, put 'default' as the mixer and "ALSA:default" as the device
[08:43:00] Ediehow: didn't i have to compile it for that?
[08:43:00] Agrajag-: do you use alsa?
[08:43:00] Ediehow: yes
[08:43:00] Ediehow: but i thought i had to compile myth for alsa or something
[08:43:00] Ediehow: but i am using rpms
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[08:43:00] Agrajag-: hmm im pretty sure it would be built in by default (well should be)
[08:44:00] Ediehow: man, i can't find out where to change that stuff
[08:44:00] Agrajag-: it's in the frontend setup somewhere, im sure
[08:44:00] Ediehow: oh
[08:44:00] Ediehow: i found audio outupt device
[08:44:00] Ediehow: set to /dev/dsp
[08:44:00] Agrajag-: it's int he db as AudioOutputDevice and MixerDevice in the settings table
[08:44:00] Agrajag-: change the device to ALSA:default
[08:44:00] Agrajag-: and mixer to just default
[08:44:00] Agrajag-: i gotta go now
[08:44:00] Agrajag-: cya
[08:45:00] Agrajag-: -gone-
[08:45:00] Ediehow: thx
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[08:48:00] Ediehow: man, i changed it to that, but no difference
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[09:05:00] WAR_CH|LD: ok, I am donig some research into a digital TV recording solution for a client. I would like to ask some simple question's quickly, if you don't mind?
[09:06:00] WAR_CH|LD: basically, with the hauppauge 500 under mythtv, it says recording two things at once, does this include one av/one arial?
[09:06:00] WAR_CH|LD: secondly, is the ivtv driver, stable enough to be able to handle 4x hauppauge cards in one box, recording a lot of tv? has anyone does this?
[09:08:00] WAR_CH|LD: simply my problem is as follows, I have 6 free to air tv stations and 3 satellite tv stations and I will need to record up to 8 simultaneously.
[09:08:00] WAR_CH|LD: what would be the best solution? :)
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[09:09:00] LJF: !list
[09:09:00] LJF: list
[09:10:00] LJF: exit
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[09:15:00] patch: any of you have trouble running mythfilldatabse?
[09:16:00] patch: i get Authorization failed.
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[11:20:00] bRuZdEGO: hello! I have a professional TV recoarding question. I need to create a solution that will record anywhere up to 8 chanells of Ariel (5 channels) and Satellite (with a decoder box) at a time. recording up to 250 hours a week. how would you do this? :)
[11:21:00] bRuZdEGO: I have looked at hauppauge cards, ivtv and mythtv but the biggest problem I face is that hauppauge 250/350 cards are not available in australia. :\
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[12:30:00] sandos: bRuZdEGO: thats too bad then. On the other hand, why not "just" order it from another country?
[12:30:00] sandos: If its professional I assume money is not a object =)
[12:31:00] sandos: btw, isnt it the 500 that has dual tuners?
[12:34:00] bRuZdEGO: yeah, but the 500 as far as I can tell. has a lot of problems.
[12:34:00] bRuZdEGO: with the current set of devel drivers. I really want to steer clear of that if possible.
[12:35:00] bRuZdEGO: if I setup 2x 500's thou, can I simultanously record av input and aerial input?
[12:36:00] bRuZdEGO: and if so, then could I put 4x cards in one computer and record any combination? 2x on each card limit of coures.
[12:39:00] sandos: hmm
[12:39:00] sandos: I dont think the 500 is that problematic
[12:39:00] sandos: 150/500 are the newer ones, and seem to be finely supported nowadays
[12:39:00] sandos: I thikn there shouldnt be any limitation on recording
[12:40:00] sandos: mind you, Ive never used any of these.. Im thinking of building a HTPC though
[12:40:00] bRuZdEGO: yeah, neither but these are the questions the boss ask's. so I gotta make sure. :)
[12:40:00] sandos: oh, av and aerial.. Ive no idea about that ...
[12:41:00] sandos: I guess it should be possible. if not, they seem to have limited the card somehow
[12:42:00] bRuZdEGO: yeah, my thoughts also. are there any other suggetsions by ppl?
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[15:02:00] onetwo: hi, I have a new problem today, which is mythstreamtv, DVB-T. I get video but no sound. The sound is apparently mpeg1 layer2 in the original according to projectx. Is it me?
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[15:14:00] Ediehow: hi
[15:14:00] Ediehow: the volume changes i make in mythtv have no effect, what to do?
[15:14:00] Ediehow: http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1751
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[17:40:00] NightBird: ....
[17:40:00] NightBird: hm...
[17:40:00] NightBird: ubuntu almost does svideo out..
[17:41:00] NightBird: except it's all.... squiggly... so things must be setup for somethign at too high of a graphics level..
[17:41:00] NightBird: hm...
[17:42:00] ** NightBird watches anime instead of working on it some more.. **
[17:42:00] GreyFoxx: I always found enabling TV out to be the easiest part of the install(or one of the easiest)
[17:43:00] NightBird: don't tell me that, GreyFoxx
[17:43:00] NightBird: though, I figured out what was wrong...
[17:43:00] GreyFoxx: seriously
[17:43:00] NightBird: apparently, you can't do vga output as well as s-video out
[17:43:00] GreyFoxx: What kind of card ?
[17:43:00] NightBird: geforce 3 ti
[17:44:00] Chutt: you just have an ancient video card
[17:44:00] Chutt: newer ones just work
[17:44:00] GreyFoxx: Well, I can't specifically speak to that cards abilities, but normally it's not a problem using both
[17:44:00] NightBird: heh
[17:44:00] NightBird: yeah.. well...
[17:44:00] NightBird: now I think the graphics resolution might be too high or something...
[17:45:00] NightBird: because the tv is acting like how a monitor would if the reslotion is too high for the monitor to handle
[17:45:00] NightBird: I'm not sure what it's at though..
[17:45:00] GreyFoxx: how high is the resolution set ?
[17:46:00] NightBird: don't remember
[17:46:00] GreyFoxx: the card itself should scale down any res larger than the max resolution for your tv standard so it shouldn't matter much what you set the resolution to
[17:46:00] GreyFoxx: so when you output for example 1024x768 it's really just 1024x768 scaled down to something closer to 720x480
[17:47:00] ** NightBird shrugs **
[17:47:00] NightBird: I was thinking it was something like 800x600
[17:47:00] GreyFoxx: but again, I don't know anything about that card :)
[17:47:00] NightBird: so that shouldn't have been the problem
[17:47:00] NightBird: but..
[17:47:00] GreyFoxx: I use 800x600
[17:47:00] adante: hmm might depend on the card... if i push my res too high the tv goes spaz
[17:47:00] ** NightBird shuts it down **
[17:48:00] NightBird: I'll watch bleach, and then check it later
[17:49:00] NightBird: gah
[17:49:00] ** NightBird just got a nasty shock from the case.. **
[17:53:00] soi-disant: it doesn't like you touching its delicates
[18:00:00] NightBird: I pushed it's power button though
[18:02:00] beavis: can the SVN mythgame be installed on 0.18.1?
[18:03:00] GreyFoxx: Can't say I've ever tried that
[18:03:00] ** NightBird is going to have to figure out why his apt-get isn't working right.. **
[18:03:00] NightBird: it complains about it haveing been moved..
[18:03:00] NightBird: which sucks
[18:03:00] GreyFoxx: beavis: I can't think of any specific reason it wouldn't compile/run. but there is only one way to find out.
[18:03:00] beavis: amelie
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[18:04:00] beavis: GreyFoxx: so it's not depending on the 0.19 protocoll?
[18:04:00] GreyFoxx: mythgame doesn't use the mythprotocol for anything. It doesn't talk to the backend process at all
[18:05:00] GreyFoxx: there could very well be library call changes that are not springing to mind though
[18:05:00] beavis: which xmame versions are supported?
[18:05:00] GreyFoxx: beavis: none, and all
[18:05:00] GreyFoxx: It is no longer tied to any verison of any emulator
[18:05:00] GreyFoxx: you have complele flexibility to edit the commandline as you see fit and add any emulator you like
[18:06:00] beavis: I was never able to run the old mythgame because of many changing --options in xmame
[18:06:00] GreyFoxx: part of why it got changed
[18:06:00] GreyFoxx: some old screenshots are here http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/mythgame/
[18:06:00] GreyFoxx: but they show pretty much how it looks now
[18:07:00] GreyFoxx: Warning though. the xmame catver stuff is not currently implemented. I'm actually working on that right now, but what is in svn doesn't use it at all so if you care about the categories and such they wont be there
[18:07:00] beavis: hm, there's no xmame for 64bit linux
[18:08:00] NightBird: hm..
[18:08:00] NightBird: is there a psx game player?
[18:08:00] NightBird: or is that something external of myth?
[18:08:00] GreyFoxx: I believe there are psx emulators out there
[18:08:00] NightBird: like I would just have to find a psx emulator
[18:09:00] GreyFoxx: no , it's just a frontend to whatever you configure
[18:09:00] NightBird: ah
[18:09:00] NightBird: ok
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[18:10:00] beavis: are there any free ROMs for small children?
[18:10:00] GreyFoxx: I believe there are free roms out there. no idea where though.
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[18:16:00] NightBird: hm..
[18:17:00] NightBird: I don't remember my alarm going off..
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[18:47:00] Ediehow: Agrajag-: you there?
[18:47:00] Ediehow: Agrajag-: i have to leave, but please read http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1751 and pm me and let me know what you think to do
[18:47:00] Ediehow: thx
[18:49:00] laga: no.
[18:49:00] laga: Agrajag-: please post it on the forums where it might help other users
[18:57:00] Beirdo: Ediehow: good to see you didn't get flooded out completely
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[19:29:00] simcop2387: wheres the best place for pvr150 ivtv help?
[19:31:00] zuralin: google
[19:36:00] simcop2387: i've been looking on google all day but i can't figure it out, well back to google
[19:37:00] soi-disant: strictly speaking, google may be the best place to -find- help, i doubt it's the best place for help
[19:37:00] soi-disant: what up simcop?
[19:38:00] simcop2387: no audio
[19:38:00] simcop2387: and i can't seem to find the recommended firmware for the 150
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[19:51:00] sandos: are there any plans on enabling somehow a "preview" live view of the video in mythtv?
[19:52:00] sandos: (the thing that anandtech for one thought was not so good with myth)
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[19:53:00] Chutt: a preview live view of the video?
[19:53:00] GreyFoxx: You mean like the preview of the recording when you are moving through the watch recordings screen ?
[19:54:00] GreyFoxx: I'd love to know how you preview a live event though :)
[20:00:00] bjohnson: Beirdo: http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/humidor-cl/
[20:00:00] bjohnson: mix two hobbies
[20:01:00] Beirdo: what a waste of an expensive humidor :)
[20:01:00] bjohnson: that's what I thought, but if the humidity doesn't hurt the computer, the heat shouldn't hurt the cigars
[20:02:00] bjohnson: have you seen the ammo boxes of cigars? http://www.jrcigars.com/index.cfm?page=cig_vi . . . &rjr=pdf
[20:02:00] Beirdo: heh
[20:02:00] Beirdo: well, cigars are a hobby of the past for me
[20:03:00] Beirdo: moving on to better things...
[20:04:00] Beirdo: woman no like cigar... cigar go bye-bye
[20:04:00] bjohnson: http://www.cigarcyclopedia.com/news/news.php? . . . l&id=360
[20:04:00] bjohnson: pic ^
[20:04:00] Ediehow: hi
[20:04:00] Beirdo: heh, neat
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[20:05:00] Ediehow: http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1751
[20:05:00] Ediehow: the volume controls for mythtv aren't making a different
[20:05:00] Ediehow: difference
[20:05:00] Ediehow: mute, vol up, vol down, nothing is making a difference, even though it shows it on myth screen as i do it
[20:05:00] Beirdo: well look who's back :)
[20:05:00] Beirdo: didn't you fix that before?
[20:06:00] bjohnson: "well, cigars are a hobby of the past for me" .... so now you know what to do with your humidor :)
[20:06:00] Beirdo: or was it just similar? it was months back
[20:06:00] Beirdo: bjohnson: way too small for that
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[20:06:00] Ediehow: Beirdo: i've never once messed with this problem
[20:06:00] Ediehow: ;)
[20:06:00] Ediehow: Beirdo: my volume for myth works, but the myth controls of volume do nothing, which are important for my remote
[20:07:00] Beirdo: K, coulda sworn it was you that had endless sound problems, and fixed it
[20:07:00] Beirdo: ahhh
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[20:07:00] Beirdo: gotcha
[20:07:00] Beirdo: dunno, dude
[20:07:00] Beirdo: I see you escaped the wrath of the hurricane at least with your life. Congrats
[20:07:00] Ediehow: no, not having an endless sound problem
[20:07:00] Ediehow: thx
[20:07:00] Ediehow: http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1751
[20:07:00] Ediehow: this basically keeps me from controlling volume with remote
[20:08:00] Beirdo: dunno what to suggest on that
[20:08:00] Ediehow: i think Agrajag- is familiar with it, but i am not sure he's here
[20:08:00] Krazylegz: Beirdo can get us Zubans.
[20:09:00] Ediehow: it's PCM/master in mixer that control what i hear
[20:09:00] Beirdo: Ediehow: hard to coordinate timing with an Aussie ;)
[20:09:00] Ediehow: so i'd be satisfied if i could change either one
[20:09:00] Ediehow: :)
[20:09:00] Beirdo: big timezone difference
[20:10:00] Ediehow: do u have his email?
[20:10:00] Ediehow: i just want to send him the thread link
[20:10:00] Beirdo: no clue
[20:10:00] Ediehow: k
[20:10:00] Beirdo: he can look in the channel logs
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[20:41:00] stf33: Hello!! I got a error message about a public key when i try to upgrade my system. Any body else can help me !?!
[20:42:00] kormoc: you need to go to your town hall and steal the key to the city, cause it's a public key you see.
[20:42:00] laga: sounds reasonable
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[20:46:00] stf33: What !!!!???? i dont understand
[20:46:00] stf33: Public key for ivtv-kmdl-2.6.12–1.1447_FC4–0.2.0–69_rc3k.rhfc4.at.i686.rpm is not installed
[20:46:00] GreyFoxx: stf33: Your description of your problem kinda sucked so they are joking with you
[20:47:00] stf33: And the rpm comming from atrpms
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[20:56:00] KillerBunny: Im guessing that you need a public key system on you computer?
[20:56:00] KillerBunny: Cant remeber what its called though.
[20:57:00] PatrickDK: pki
[20:57:00] PatrickDK: pke?
[20:57:00] KillerBunny: Something like that.
[20:58:00] PatrickDK: I know it's called one of those two
[20:58:00] PatrickDK: all mine run out end of october
[20:58:00] PatrickDK: have to renew all my ssl keys
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[21:23:00] stf33: I have desable the checking of the pgp key into the /etc/yum.conf file to solve the problem.
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[21:55:00] simcop2387: any pvr150mce
[21:55:00] simcop2387: er
[21:55:00] simcop2387: anyone with a working PVR150 MCE NTSC?
[21:58:00] NightBird: I'll find out if I ever get s-video out working properly..
[21:59:00] NightBird: I kind of have s-video out working properly..
[22:00:00] NightBird: for text... until it tries to go into graphical mode..
[22:00:00] NightBird: then once it goes back to text mode, it's all... squigly
[22:00:00] stf33: The pvr150 have a s-video out !?! for my self i think it's a in
[22:00:00] GreyFoxx: so, it works when you are in non text mode, just looks crappy after exiting back to text ?
[22:01:00] GreyFoxx: stf33: No, he means he'll find out if he has a working 150 AFTER he fixes his tvout issues
[22:01:00] NightBird: no
[22:01:00] NightBird: when it's in graphics mode, it's acting like it's at too high of a reslotion..
[22:01:00] GreyFoxx: What resolution are you trying to use ?
[22:02:00] NightBird: I've tried everyting from 320x240 to 800x600
[22:02:00] NightBird: well..
[22:02:00] NightBird: not everything, but most of it
[22:02:00] NightBird: like 640x480
[22:02:00] GreyFoxx: So for example 640x480 does the same thing ?
[22:02:00] NightBird: it's slightly different, but it's the same effective result
[22:03:00] NightBird: like I see that it's trying to be that size(what I can make of the graphics, it appears like it's a bigger resolution)
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[22:04:00] GreyFoxx: I assume this is with the nvidia driver, not the open source "nv" driver ?
[22:04:00] NightBird: nvidia
[22:05:00] GreyFoxx: Put your X config up on pastebin
[22:06:00] Chutt: the gf3ti is before the nvidia driver can control the tv out
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[22:06:00] NightBird: ?
[22:06:00] GreyFoxx: NightBird: You might need to look at using nvtv then
[22:07:00] NightBird: so my geforce 3 ti won't work?
[22:07:00] NightBird: shoot..
[22:07:00] NightBird: oh ok
[22:07:00] NightBird: hm..
[22:07:00] NightBird: so I need to figure out why apt-get update doesn't like me
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[22:07:00] NightBird: bbiab
[22:12:00] NightBird: ok, back
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[22:13:00] juski: hello again peeps. long time no see
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[22:18:00] NightBird: hi
[22:21:00] simcop2387: ok lets go do the cold reboot
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[23:29:00] Ediehow: hi
[23:29:00] Ediehow: Agrajag-: you there?
[23:31:00] Krazylegz: He's Aussie.
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[23:34:00] Ediehow: got it
[23:34:00] Ediehow: thx
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[23:38:00] MrSpiffy: yo!
[23:39:00] MrSpiffy: I am using mythtv to rip a dvd – it's creating the vob now
[23:39:00] MrSpiffy: the log shows
[23:39:00] MrSpiffy: transcode command will be: transcode -i /mnt/net/video/vob/CRASH/vob/ -g 720x480 -f 0,1 -M 2 -V -j 0,8,0,8 -B 5,5 -y xvid -w 1200 -o /mnt/net/video/CRASH.avi --print_status 20 --color 0
[23:39:00] MrSpiffy: this troubles me – I did not expect myth to size a 16:9 dvd to 720x480
[23:40:00] GreyFoxx: why not ?
[23:40:00] MrSpiffy: um
[23:40:00] GreyFoxx: that's what the DVD is
[23:40:00] GreyFoxx: aspect ratio != resolution
[23:40:00] MrSpiffy: ah
[23:40:00] MrSpiffy: ahhhhh
[23:40:00] MrSpiffy: but is 720x480 16:9 ?
[23:40:00] CanadaBoy: hey user question here ... if my cable provider changes the channel number around how do i update that on my end?
[23:41:00] GreyFoxx: MrSpiffy: http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/aspectratios.htm
[23:41:00] MrSpiffy: Canada – mythfilldatabase
[23:41:00] ** GreyFoxx goes to make support **
[23:41:00] GreyFoxx: supper
[23:41:00] GreyFoxx: man, I've been at work too long
[23:42:00] CanadaBoy: MrSpiffy: don't have to do anything in mythvsetup?
[23:42:00] CanadaBoy: MrSpiffy: they changed say prime from 30 to 23 and moved the old 23 to 30
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[23:47:00] CanadaBoy: dam whats the zap2it subscrition update link
[23:47:00] syle2: haha
[23:47:00] syle2: you filled out wrong one lol
[23:47:00] CanadaBoy: no its got my old e-mail so i didn't get teh notice
[23:48:00] syle2: hehe
[23:48:00] CanadaBoy: and i can't find it off there site
[23:48:00] syle2: put a labs in front of the name
[23:48:00] CanadaBoy: u rock!
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[23:51:00] syle2: mrspiffy
[23:51:00] syle2: you got crash to burn?
[23:51:00] syle2: i been trying to get crash off this damn dvd , won;t work
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