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Tuesday, August 30th, 2005, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:00] MrSpiffy: can myth just play my divx avi's ?
[00:00:00] malaTG: example "Castlevania" and "Casstlevania 2"
[00:00:00] malaTG: oops one s :-)
[00:00:00] malaTG: the screens have the same name
[00:01:00] malaTG: another eaxmple is "Battle of The Olympus" where I don't even see any screen
[00:01:00] GreyFoxx: MrSpiffy: Sure it can
[00:01:00] MrSpiffy: GreyFoxx, cool!
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[00:01:00] MrSpiffy: Grey – how do I set the player options to do so, so I can stop using mplayer
[00:02:00] MrSpiffy: GreyFoxx – how do I set the player options to do so, so I can stop using mplayer
[00:02:00] GreyFoxx: malaTG: No, what I want to know the full filenames of all 3 files. the two castlevania roms, and of the screenshot
[00:03:00] GreyFoxx: MrSpiffy: Go into the mythvideo settings and change the playback command to "Internal" without the quotes
[00:03:00] MrSpiffy: yay!
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[00:03:00] MrSpiffy: GreyFoxx, a simple tip but you may have saved my bacon
[00:03:00] MrSpiffy: GreyFoxx, will it use my via xvnc also?
[00:03:00] malaTG: Castlevania.gif Castlevania.nes Castlevania 2.nes Castlevania 2.gif
[00:03:00] GreyFoxx: I use the internal one now, but mostly to try and crash it and find any bugs, I never had any troubles with mplayer
[00:04:00] MrSpiffy: GreyFoxx, brb – gonna set that on my tv box
[00:04:00] GreyFoxx: malaTG: and both of those use the same screenshot? and you are POSITIVE they are not the same image right ? :)
[00:04:00] malaTG: yea I checked that :-)
[00:04:00] malaTG: thought so first also
[00:05:00] malaTG: As I said earlier "Battle of Olympus" don't even show despite the same name
[00:07:00] GreyFoxx: hrm, for some reason my laptop is horking right now, something is spiraling to a painful death
[00:07:00] fluffle: hi
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[00:08:00] fluffle: i've tried to set my main mythtv box up as a backend server and recorder, but i can'tmake it think it has a local encoder
[00:08:00] fluffle: i've tried pretty much every combination of the ip address and hostname in the database
[00:08:00] fluffle: even torn the db apart and remade from scratch
[00:09:00] fluffle: any help would be appreciated :/
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[00:10:00] fluffle: one thing, is this a known issue with 18.0, as i'm still running that release
[00:13:00] fluffle: it all went tits up when i changed the master server and backend server from 127.0.0.1
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[00:14:00] GreyFoxx: malaTG: I'm not using 0.18 so I can't test that, but I did just try it under svn and it worked properly
[00:14:00] MrSpiffy: GreyFoxx, I set the player to INternal and it works great with xvid files created with nuvexport – However it barfs up GREEN when playing divx files I created from DVD's
[00:15:00] GreyFoxx: Dunno what to tell ya, works fine for most everything I've got here except for a little aspect ratio weirdness
[00:15:00] malaTG: hmm strange probably something that I have missed then.....
[00:15:00] GreyFoxx: malaTG:
[00:15:00] malaTG: back to the drawing bord.......
[00:15:00] GreyFoxx: Mythgame in svn is quite different than it was in 0.18
[00:16:00] malaTG: okey sound good I've had a lot of trouble with it
[00:16:00] MrSpiffy: GreyFoxx, hmmm.
[00:17:00] malaTG: GreyFoxx: I have another question if that's alright?
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[00:18:00] GreyFoxx: Ask away, no guarantees I will answer :)
[00:18:00] malaTG: hehe :-) I'm from sweden and the paths and sometimes filenames contain the swedish letters åäö and in mythvideo the files can't be erased from the database because of this
[00:19:00] malaTG: If a remove a file myth wonders if it should remove it from the database and I answers yes however it don't get erased
[00:21:00] GreyFoxx: My only guess would be that the filename needs to be escaped before being passed to mysql, but without looking at the code for that specific example I wouldn't know for sure
[00:21:00] jonK: you could always move from sweeden to somewhere that uses a simpiler alphabet
[00:21:00] malaTG: hehe that is and idea :-)
[00:21:00] jonK: but that would probably be fairly a fairly drastic way to correct
[00:22:00] malaTG: well drastic problems need drastic solutions......
[00:22:00] jgirotti: i need help with nuvexport, i get it started and select options then it says that it is starting transcode, but runs into an error on line 136
[00:24:00] malaTG: If I want to report my problem as a bug, how do I do that? I wrote a couple of rows about it in the mythtv-dev is that enough?
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[00:26:00] MrSpiffy: GreyFoxx, I found the problem – I had deinterlace playback turned on – when I turned it off it played the divx avi fine
[00:27:00] MrSpiffy: interestinf
[00:27:00] GreyFoxx: Ialways have deinterlaced playback on. weird
[00:27:00] MrSpiffy: GreyFoxx, yeah
[00:27:00] MrSpiffy: GreyFoxx, I like it too. perhaps it's a problem with getting the file over the network, or a cpu issue – my set top is a 1G epia
[00:28:00] MrSpiffy: GreyFoxx, or perhaps it's an XvMC issue
[00:28:00] Chutt: cpu, most likely
[00:28:00] GreyFoxx: *shrug*
[00:28:00] MrSpiffy: yeah
[00:28:00] MrSpiffy: *shrug*
[00:28:00] GreyFoxx: well xvmc wont help you with mpeg4 I don't think
[00:28:00] MrSpiffy: GreyFoxx, I record in Mpeg4 also
[00:28:00] jgirotti: it happens when i use ffmpeg or mencoder
[00:29:00] GreyFoxx: well xvmc isn't helping with playback of that I don't think :)
[00:29:00] MrSpiffy: GreyFoxx, I will say that using myth's internal player is a LOT better – way less "blocky" than mplayer
[00:29:00] MrSpiffy: I wonder why if via xvnc isn;t helping me out
[00:30:00] MrSpiffy: GreyFoxx, think I should try and re-index the avi?
[00:30:00] MrSpiffy: I get this:
[00:30:00] MrSpiffy: [mpeg4 @ 0x5b97830]warning: first frame is no keyframe
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[00:59:00] flithm: hey everyone... I just a new tuner card (wintv 150), which I've set up and seems to work good (I can cat a video from /dev/video0 and play it back), but I can't seem to get mythtv to work with the card. Note that this is my second tuner card, and I alreayd have a working mythtv setup. I've tried various capture card settings (standard V4l device, mjpeg capture), but all I get when I go to watch tv is a black screen and mythfrontend hangs. Anyone got
[00:59:00] flithm: any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
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[01:03:00] JameF: help , use Leadtek winfast TV2000XP Expert watch TV no sound, and choppy
[01:04:00] flithm: heh
[01:05:00] JameF: and tv seem no color
[01:05:00] flithm: JameF: I don't know anytihng about those cards. But the no color is probably due to wrong tuner type... if it's a bttv card you probably need to do "modprobe bttv card=xxxx tuner=xx" you can find the values that go in there in the bttv docs
[01:05:00] sphery: flithm: should be set up as a PVR-250/350
[01:06:00] flithm: sphery: oh okay... duh, thanks :)
[01:06:00] sphery: np
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[01:06:00] Chutt: * Unregistered users cannot currently send private messages due to spambot problems. please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup )
[01:06:00] Chutt: smart. veeeery smart.
[01:07:00] JameF: the LeadTek tv2000xp expert is cx88 driver
[01:07:00] JameF: I should also set as PVR-250/350?
[01:08:00] flithm: sphery: that did the trick... just out of curiosity how do you do the sound on one of these? does it get its own /dev/dsp device, or should it automatically come through if I set as 250/350?
[01:09:00] sphery: think it ignores any setting you put for audio capture device since audio and video capture and encoding is done onboard
[01:10:00] Agrajag-: JameF: err i use bttv with a leadtek tv2000xp
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[01:11:00] JoeG: so apparently the mailing list isn't much help how do it fix the waiting for audio buffer issue
[01:13:00] JoeG: heeeeloooooooo out there
[01:13:00] flithm: sphery: weird... I get video, but no audio... I wonder if I've got some setting wrong
[01:13:00] flithm: JoeG: yo :)
[01:13:00] JoeG: well i get audio waiting for buffer to fill: have 3072 want 4096
[01:13:00] JoeG: Broadcasting free space avail
[01:14:00] JoeG: over an over again out of mythfrontend -v all capture
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[01:14:00] JoeG: hey flithm
[01:14:00] JameF: Agrajag-, is your Leadtek deluxe? my leadtek is expert (cx2388x)
[01:14:00] JoeG: think you can help
[01:15:00] Chutt: joeg, you're rather impatient, aren't you
[01:15:00] sphery: flithm: did you get audio when doing the cat test?
[01:15:00] JoeG: yes well i have been wrestling with this thing for months more or less
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[01:16:00] Chutt: no one's going to help if you're annoying, really.
[01:16:00] JoeG: and i am leaving on a trip on wednesday... so i need to be able to record and playback battle star galactica
[01:16:00] JoeG: not trying to be annoying... just getting frustrated by the lack of response
[01:16:00] flithm: sphery: hmmm... no I didn't... so obviously it's not a mythtv thing... when i play the test mpeg file it says there's a pcm audio stream in there though, it's just blank
[01:17:00] sphery: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/141991#141991
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[01:17:00] flithm: JoeG: there was a netsplit before, so people might not have seen your original questions
[01:17:00] JoeG: and while i understand tthis is all volunteer
[01:17:00] Chutt: frustrated by the lack of response?
[01:17:00] Chutt: you waited a few hours, then sent more messages
[01:17:00] JoeG: netsplit
[01:17:00] Chutt: to the list
[01:17:00] Chutt: that's really not waiting for a response
[01:18:00] flithm: sphery: thanks for that link, I'm trying that out
[01:18:00] sphery: good luck
[01:18:00] flithm: sphery: thanks :)
[01:18:00] JoeG: hmmmm it has been a while since i have been on a list so maybe your right i didn't give it enough time...
[01:18:00] Chutt: and your description of the problem is absolutely horrible
[01:18:00] JoeG: flithm what is a netsplit?
[01:18:00] Chutt: so it's no wonder no one is going to try to help you
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[01:19:00] JoeG: Chutt, how was my description poor?
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[01:19:00] Chutt: it's crappy?
[01:19:00] Chutt: you're including no useful information?
[01:19:00] JoeG: chutt that is exactly what i see
[01:20:00] JoeG: ok so what useful info do you need?
[01:20:00] Chutt: why would i help you?
[01:20:00] flithm: JoeG: just so you know I agree with these guys... your description was crappy to say the least. Demanding help from people is generally not a good way to get it.
[01:20:00] JoeG: ahh ok i see we are going to play this game ok well then if that's the case.... i can wait
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[01:22:00] JoeG: filthm yeah i hear ya but i waited nearly months to try this thing again and here i am with all my old problems replaced by completely new one's
[01:23:00] JoeG: i know what i am doing with computers so not having good documentations is driving me up a wall
[01:23:00] Chutt: 'not having good documentations'?
[01:23:00] Chutt: heh
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[01:23:00] JameF: help, seem my tv capture card input noise to mythtv, when I use mythtv play CD, I also can heard the noise, why?
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[01:24:00] flithm: JoeG: well that sucks, feel your pain dude, this ain't the easiest thing to do. There's tons of good docs, you just have to read em, and quit assuming that being "good at computers" is going to make this any easier. It's not easy, get over it, quit whining, and relax... it just takes time.
[01:24:00] JoeG: chutt sorry typing too fast
[01:25:00] JoeG: well time is someting i really don't have a great deal of.... and a computer is the last thing you want to come home and look at when all you do all day is work on computers....
[01:25:00] JoeG: IT sucks after you have been in it 10+ years
[01:25:00] Chutt: wow, you must be the only person that works on the computers all day long
[01:25:00] flithm: JoeG: then maybe this project isn't for you. Either that or maybe your job isn't for you :).
[01:25:00] Chutt: no one else has a computer related job in here
[01:25:00] JoeG: yada yada
[01:26:00] JoeG: ugh i think it's the job... just can't get out.... can't afford the pay cut
[01:26:00] JoeG: anyway
[01:27:00] JoeG: so are you guys going to help me get the right info up or am i just going to have to guess them myself?
[01:27:00] JoeG: :P
[01:28:00] flithm: JoeG: I hear you on that one... I had a nice IT job for a while. Quit and went back to school. I tell you it was tough going from having money to have no money. One thing I will say is, I'm way happier now than I ever before :).
[01:28:00] JoeG: i mean it'spretty straight forward... the backend is working fine... the frontend dive anytime i go to watch video because it gets stuck in that loop
[01:28:00] flithm: stuck in what loop?
[01:29:00] JoeG: flithm, yeah....
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[01:29:00] JoeG: audio waiting for buffer to fill: have 3072 want 4096
[01:29:00] JoeG: Broadcasting free space avail
[01:29:00] JoeG: over and over and over again
[01:29:00] JoeG: so much so that it locks up my computer
[01:30:00] Chutt: that's not locking up your computer, you idiot.
[01:30:00] Chutt: those messages are completely normal.
[01:30:00] JoeG: no it is sending it into a lopp which burn the processor which effectively locks me out
[01:30:00] flithm: hey come on now guys... no need for name calling.
[01:30:00] Chutt: read what he just said, and please tell me you don't agree
[01:31:00] JoeG: anyway
[01:31:00] JoeG: he's a chutt what do you want
[01:31:00] flithm: yeah I agree, and I know you're frustrated with him, but name calling gets us nowhere.
[01:31:00] Chutt: sure it does
[01:32:00] Chutt: it'll get him to leave :p
[01:32:00] flithm: JoeG: dude, it's almost like you don't want help
[01:32:00] flithm: I'm staying outta this one
[01:32:00] JoeG: no it won't i can just ignore you much that you dwill do to me
[01:32:00] JoeG: no i do
[01:32:00] Chutt: heh
[01:32:00] Chutt: yeah, that'll work
[01:33:00] flithm: hey guys... I think I forgot a step about unpacking a firmware for my board (wintv 150). would/could that result in no audio but working video?
[01:33:00] JoeG: anyway i would appreciate the help... if you don't want to offer it so be it... whatever
[01:33:00] Chutt: it could
[01:34:00] Chutt: but you'd see messages about the audio firmware being missing
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[01:34:00] Chutt: no audio's more likely to be a mis-detected tuner type
[01:34:00] flithm: Chutt: I don't see any messages about that, but I do see this: ivtv warning: Encoder Firmware can be buggy, use version 0x02040011!!!!
[01:34:00] JoeG: filth you need makoa
[01:34:00] Chutt: naw, that's non-fatal
[01:35:00] flithm: makoa what is this?
[01:35:00] JoeG: the .rom for the audio
[01:35:00] JoeG: if you have a pvr150 you need that for audio
[01:36:00] Chutt: he just said he doesn't see messages about the audio firmware being missing
[01:36:00] flithm: JoeG: where do you get this ROM and you just put it in /lib/modules and ivtv loads it automatically?
[01:36:00] JoeG: yeap hold on a sec i went through IVTV already
[01:37:00] flithm: I also randomly selected a tuner type of 50 which I saw on a message board, that fixed my video problem, but would that affect audio?
[01:37:00] JoeG: you can just download the ones from the happauge site and just unpack the zip file you will find both the video and audio .roms right ther
[01:37:00] Chutt: flithm, yup
[01:38:00] JoeG: i am using 3.7.h and it autodetects everything
[01:38:00] flithm: I'm using 3.7.k and it did not for me
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[01:38:00] JoeG: really? what distro?
[01:38:00] PatrickDK: flithm, it could affect your audio, but did you delete the linux kernel msp3400 driver?
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[01:39:00] PatrickDK: cause if you don't you will load the wrong driver
[01:39:00] Chutt: the 150 doesn't use the msp3400
[01:39:00] flithm: PatrickDK: I did that use
[01:39:00] PatrickDK: oh, 150
[01:39:00] flithm: PatrickDK: I meant, yes I did that
[01:39:00] Chutt: there's other modules, though
[01:39:00] flithm: Chutt: I deleted all the default kernel ones and replaced them with the ivtv ones
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[01:40:00] Chutt: then that should be fine
[01:41:00] JoeG: flithm, all i have in the modules.conf is lias char-major-81 videodev followed by alias char-major-81–0 ivtv
[01:41:00] JoeG: and everything works
[01:41:00] flithm: JoeG: so it must be that rom file... once you put it in /lib/modules do you need to do anything else?
[01:41:00] JoeG: mplayer /dev/video0 works great
[01:41:00] JoeG: reboot
[01:41:00] JoeG: always reboot
[01:42:00] JoeG: make sure that you are loading a new firmware
[01:42:00] kjp: grr.
[01:42:00] kjp: I can see videos
[01:42:00] PatrickDK: do a cold reboot, not warm
[01:42:00] kjp: but it won't let me play them!!!
[01:42:00] flithm: Ah ha --> cx25840: firmware read failed I do get that a firmware error!
[01:42:00] JoeG: yeah PatrickDK is right
[01:42:00] JoeG: flithm, what distro?
[01:43:00] flithm: JoeG: gentoo
[01:43:00] JoeG: ugh that's what i tried first... i wussed out.... went back to suse 9.3
[01:43:00] JoeG: i like gentoo though... just no time
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[01:43:00] JoeG: to fiddle that much
[01:44:00] kjp: can anyone tell me how to go about debugging mythtv's video library chooser and player? if I run mplayer or xine from the xterm they play fine, but myth tv just flashed "loading" quickly and returns to the chooser screen
[01:44:00] JoeG: so now do i get a little love for helping my boy hout with his ivtv issue?
[01:44:00] PatrickDK: kjp sounds like path problem
[01:44:00] kjp: PatrickDK: how can I check?
[01:44:00] kjp: is there a log file somewhere?
[01:45:00] PatrickDK: only if you make one
[01:45:00] flithm: JoeG: I loaded the firmware and it works fine :) thanks man
[01:45:00] PatrickDK: I think it can log to the database though
[01:45:00] flithm: JoeG: so you're using the same card (150) and you get that audio issue?
[01:45:00] JoeG: flithm, let me know if your loud audio clips using the tv tuner
[01:46:00] JoeG: yeap when i start up mythfrontend -v all &> /tmp/blah
[01:46:00] kjp: PatrickDK: where / how can I check to see if it's a path problem?
[01:46:00] JoeG: i just see that repeated over and over again
[01:46:00] PatrickDK: logs
[01:46:00] flithm: JoeG: you're using 18.1 right?
[01:46:00] JoeG: yeap from here
[01:46:00] JoeG: http://folk.uio.no/oeysteio/
[01:46:00] kjp: PatrickDK: ok, how do I make it log to a file?
[01:47:00] JoeG: using apt4suse
[01:47:00] JoeG: i mean those are hand made for suse 9.3 the version i am using and it still won't work
[01:49:00] flithm: JoeG: hmmm... that's pretty weird man. I'm using the same card, and I get no problems.
[01:49:00] JoeG: yeah whats wierd is that my mythbackend is still recording but i have a black scree and completely unresponsive computer
[01:49:00] JoeG: can't get in via network let alone the console
[01:50:00] flithm: JoeG: you set the device type to 250/350 (and not standard v4l device) right?
[01:50:00] JoeG: only choice is to reset
[01:50:00] JoeG: flithm yeap
[01:50:00] JoeG: watch tv or watch something from the library and bang everytime it breaks
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[01:52:00] JoeG: and those lines repeated over and over again are the only cles i have.... that's it
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[01:52:00] flithm: JoeG: just out of curiosity, do a "dmesg | grep taint"
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[01:53:00] flithm: JoeG: on your backend machine
[01:53:00] JoeG: yeap there in there
[01:53:00] JoeG: what's that mean?
[01:53:00] flithm: JoeG: there's some taint's?
[01:53:00] flithm: JoeG: is it on anything htat looks like it might be relating to tv stuff?
[01:53:00] JoeG: yeap ivtv: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag.
[01:54:00] JoeG: what's that gonna do?
[01:54:00] laga: nothing.
[01:54:00] JoeG: that's what i thought
[01:54:00] flithm: JoeG: yeah that won't do anything...
[01:55:00] JoeG: that's the first time i have seen that what does U taint mean?
[01:55:00] flithm: that particular one doesn't mean much other than ivtv not officially supported by novell. nothing to worry about
[01:56:00] JoeG: ok
[01:56:00] JoeG: so i have via_ircc
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[01:56:00] JoeG: rt2500
[01:56:00] JoeG: tveeprom tuner cx25840 wm8775 and ivtv all tainted
[01:58:00] JoeG: flithm BTW my ivtv modules autodetected and set the tuner to 50 for me
[01:58:00] flithm: okay I guess that's a deadend. I found a link about another 9.3 user who couldn't get myth to work... actually try dmesg | grep Unknown
[01:59:00] JoeG: no go just bitches about my mouse
[01:59:00] flithm: hrmf
[01:59:00] JoeG: i did a google sweep for "audio waiting for buffer to fill"
[02:00:00] JoeG: and only found one or 2 things but nothing that tells em how to fix it
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[02:01:00] flithm: I'm pretty much out of ideas man
[02:01:00] flithm: are you convinced it's the backend or frontend?
[02:02:00] JoeG: no it's the frontend
[02:02:00] JoeG: the backend continues to work... i know this because the recorded video show up in my videos... and i can see the preview.... plus i can view it just fine in mplayer
[02:02:00] flithm: i see
[02:02:00] flithm: that changes thing
[02:04:00] JoeG: here is sample of what i see right before that "audio waiting for space on soundcard: have 3488 need 4096"
[02:04:00] flithm: the only thing I can think of is that maybe SuSe's package is messed. If it were me I'd try building from source. Other than that I have no ideas.
[02:04:00] JoeG: the right into that loop
[02:05:00] flithm: what sound card?
[02:05:00] JoeG: sb
[02:05:00] JoeG: awe32
[02:05:00] JoeG: i think
[02:05:00] JoeG: hold on
[02:05:00] flithm: wow that's an old one :)
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[02:06:00] JoeG: no SB Live 5.1
[02:06:00] flithm: that's almost the same sound card I have too
[02:06:00] JoeG: well the one on the MB i had to disable because it jsut sucked... that and the pcm was the only thing that could be controlled
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[02:07:00] JoeG: i didn't install the sound fonts though
[02:07:00] JoeG: did you do that?
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[02:08:00] flithm: no didn't do that
[02:08:00] JoeG: what's you processor and MB?
[02:09:00] flithm: athlon-xp 2100, gigabyte mobo.
[02:09:00] JoeG: i have the noname wonder from Biostar M7VIG 400
[02:09:00] JoeG: sempron 2800
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[02:10:00] JoeG: 512 megs of ram
[02:10:00] flithm: I can't see that being the issue... I mean anything is possible, but if everything else works, shouldn't be a problem
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[02:10:00] JoeG: no i agree but i have seen some wierd shit in my years
[02:10:00] JoeG: shit that shouldn't even be possible but ther it is right in front of you
[02:11:00] JoeG: :)
[02:11:00] JameF: help, Failed to run 'cdrecord --scanbus'
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[02:13:00] JameF: why mythtv always open OSS /dev/dsp?
[02:13:00] flithm: JoeG: just out of curiosity have you tried one of the mythtv livecd's like Geexbox, or KnoppMyth? I've not tried these, but if one of those works you know it's something other than the hardware right?
[02:14:00] JoeG: flithm, you know that brilliant.... gonna go download one now and give it a shot
[02:14:00] JoeG: errr that's
[02:14:00] JoeG: and i butchered brillant
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[02:14:00] flithm: JoeG: assuming they themselves work that is :) But either way, if you get the exact same problem you might want to think about trying on different hardware
[02:16:00] JoeG: this is the second MB i am trying this is my upgrade from my old 1g athlon that was giving my fits with the cheapie ide raid
[02:16:00] ** JoeG does the happy dance of frustration **
[02:17:00] flithm: well trust me man, when you finally get it to work, it's worth it.
[02:18:00] JoeG: yeah this is also gonna be my whole house server with mr house and some HVAC thing i found too
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[02:20:00] JoeG: i was thinking of going with jupitertv? i think that's it... it's free for single use, runs on linux and does the mr house thing too... but it's not OSS
[02:21:00] flithm: never heard of it... sounds cool though
[02:21:00] flithm: what is this mr. house thing?
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[02:22:00] gf: at the top of my tv is a line about 2 pixels tall, and in these two pixels its showing what is being seen at the bottom of the screen. anyone have this problem before? any ideas on how to fix it?
[02:22:00] JoeG: flithm, http://w3.misterhouse.com
[02:23:00] flithm: gf: what tuner card?
[02:23:00] gf: pvr250
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[02:23:00] gf: its really obnoxious
[02:23:00] flithm: gf: weird... maybe you need to manually select a different tuner or card type when ivtv loads?
[02:23:00] JoeG: actually if you ask chutt i am really obnoxious
[02:23:00] gf: its when im viewing live tv
[02:23:00] gf: that i see this line
[02:24:00] JoeG: :0
[02:24:00] flithm: gf: but not recording?
[02:24:00] JoeG: err :)
[02:24:00] gf: no recording as well
[02:24:00] gf: my recorded eps of family guy last night show the lines
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[02:24:00] JoeG: tuner or svideo?
[02:24:00] flithm: gf: when you do mplayer /dev/video0 does it show the same thing?
[02:24:00] gf: its outputting via svideo
[02:24:00] gf: 1 second
[02:24:00] gf: i rebooted
[02:24:00] JoeG: no no input
[02:24:00] gf: input is tuner
[02:25:00] flithm: gf: has it always done this or did it just start doing it?
[02:25:00] gf: i believe it just started doing it
[02:25:00] gf: never noticed it before
[02:25:00] gf: i'll tye the mplayer /dev/dvideo0 thing
[02:25:00] JoeG: might have the wrong tuner setup.... might actually be off by a few here and ehre
[02:25:00] gf: its actually only on certain channels
[02:25:00] JoeG: tuner
[02:26:00] gf: on fox its like that
[02:26:00] JoeG: tuner
[02:26:00] gf: but on abc its not. what do u recommend i do joe?
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[02:26:00] JoeG: well i know the 150 inside and out nowadays
[02:26:00] gf: well 250 is close enough
[02:26:00] JoeG: what version of the driver are you using?
[02:26:00] gf: 2.0 one i believe
[02:27:00] JoeG: see i have to use the 3+ series
[02:27:00] gf: well u have a 150
[02:27:00] JoeG: yes
[02:27:00] gf: well what would u do to fix this?
[02:27:00] JoeG: and my understanding is that there are vast differences between 2 and 3
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[02:28:00] gf: its doing some crazy fuzz on mtv2 at the top of the screen, not that i watch mtv
[02:28:00] JoeG: i would try different tuners...
[02:28:00] gf: i dont have another tuner
[02:28:00] JoeG: no there must be a way to set it at the module
[02:28:00] gf: oh
[02:29:00] gf: hold on
[02:29:00] JoeG: if that didn't work give the 3 series a shot
[02:29:00] gf: u tlaking about this: # /usr/bin/ivtvctl -p 4
[02:29:00] JoeG: not sure what tuner number you should try but 47 or 47 seem to work
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[02:29:00] JoeG: errr and 57
[02:29:00] JoeG: i mean
[02:29:00] flithm: hey JoeG I gotta run, but good luck with your problem!
[02:29:00] JoeG: flithm thanks man
[02:29:00] flithm: and thanks for the help
[02:29:00] JoeG: no prob
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[02:30:00] gf: joe ygpm
[02:30:00] JoeG: ygpm?
[02:30:00] gf: you got private message
[02:30:00] JoeG: i have no clue what you mean by that
[02:30:00] gf: i just pm'ed u
[02:30:00] gf: look at where ur windows tab is, u should see one w/my name
[02:30:00] JoeG: ahh nope
[02:31:00] gf: double click my name
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[03:07:00] xris: duh, mythlogbot here, but no +v because beirdo's not identified.
[03:08:00] Chutt: heh
[03:08:00] Chutt: probably a victim of the inability to msg nickserv =)
[03:08:00] xris: well, he's gone... so wouldn't be trying, anyway.
[03:09:00] Chutt: if he's automated..
[03:10:00] xris: true
[03:18:00] bomba_: so I get this when trying to emerge the mythtv-cvs:
[03:18:00] bomba_: * Running cvs -q -f -z4 -d ":pserver:mythtv:mythtv@cvs.mythtv.org :/var/lib/mythcvs" login
[03:18:00] bomba_: Logging in to :pserver:mythtv@cvs.mythtv.org :2401/var/lib/mythcvs
[03:18:00] bomba_: cvs [login aborted]: connect to cvs.mythtv.org(70.84.9.188):2401 failed: Connection refused
[03:18:00] gf: how do u restart mythbackend?
[03:19:00] bomba_: /etc/init.d/mythbacked restart
[03:19:00] bomba_: slighly distro-dependent I would surmise
[03:19:00] bomba_: /etc/init.d/mythbackend restart
[03:19:00] gf: ty
[03:19:00] bomba_: even
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[03:20:00] gf: i have a problem on certain channels where the top horizontal line of pixels are moved over like 30 pixels
[03:20:00] gf: any ideas?
[03:21:00] bomba_: its one line of pixels...
[03:22:00] bomba_: most tvs will overscan and you wouldn't even see those top 20 pixels anyway
[03:26:00] bomba_: n/m on my Q ... cvs seems to be old and busted
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[03:31:00] Chutt: bomba, you found the svn info?
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[03:53:00] bomba_: I found the svn ebuild, yesss
[03:54:00] ddiaz: hello, all! how to install plugins on gentoo? qmake fails to find kde's include files. CPPFLAGS nor CXXFLAGS nor CFLAGS seem to work
[03:54:00] ddiaz: i'm rather new at compiling qt stuff
[03:55:00] Agrajag-: try INCLUDEPATH
[03:57:00] ddiaz: Agrajag-, same: "main.cpp:15:26: kapplication.h: No such file or directory"
[03:57:00] ckline: I need newbie help. Can anyone sink to my level for about two minutes?
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[03:59:00] ddiaz: ckline, i'm stuck at newbie level. can i help?
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[04:00:00] Agrajag-: ddiaz: do you have a kapplication.h ?
[04:00:00] ckline: ddiaz: I'm trying to download Debian so I can install MythTV
[04:00:00] ckline: I'm using jigdo to do this
[04:00:00] ddiaz: Agrajag-, yes, i do: /usr/kde/3.4/include
[04:00:00] ckline: I'm attempting to download a DVD iso of Debian
[04:00:00] ddiaz: Agrajag-, but thanks! i should have STFW first: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV
[04:01:00] ckline: and its been downloading for over 18 hours
[04:01:00] ckline: every five files jigdo downloads, it says "downloaded xxxx byes in 5 files. 5 of xxxxx files found."
[04:01:00] ckline: the 5 never increases
[04:01:00] ckline: just wondering if I'm doing this right
[04:01:00] Agrajag-: why are you downloading the whole dvd?
[04:02:00] ckline: because I didn't want to download 3 CDRoms
[04:02:00] ddiaz: ckline, i wouldn't know — i'm gentooist! :) try #debian or #ubuntu
[04:02:00] Agrajag-: you only need 1
[04:02:00] ckline: ok, well let me back up.
[04:03:00] ckline: as a total linux noob trying to learn linux AND run MythTV... is Debian the choice? Or is another distro more appropriate. I chose Debian because Iw as going to follow a how-to guide on the web
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[04:03:00] ddiaz: ckline, oh, i would recommend http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV !
[04:03:00] Agrajag-: yeah debian is where it's at
[04:03:00] ddiaz: ckline, but then again, gentoo might not be as easy to install as debian-based systems
[04:03:00] ckline: jigdo seems really cool; just not after 18 hours :(
[04:04:00] ckline: ddiaz: I can't even get debian to download
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[04:04:00] Agrajag-: jidgo made my 1 cd image in about 15 minutes from start to finish
[04:04:00] ckline: grr
[04:04:00] ckline: did you use jigdo-lite?
[04:04:00] Agrajag-: i wouldn't recommend gentoo at all, especially if you don't like waiting around for things
[04:04:00] Agrajag-: nah
[04:05:00] ddiaz: hey, Agrajag-, what do you have to lose! don't you have like way too many lives to reincarnate? ;)
[04:05:00] dEdd: Hi all — I can't seem to compress the .nuv recordings down. Hints welcome, I'm using 0.18.1 on Kubuntu hoary.
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[04:06:00] ckline: allright, I'll give jigdo one more try
[04:06:00] ddiaz: Agrajag-, by the way, watch out for a guy named arthur_dent
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[04:10:00] ddiaz: Agrajag-, i bet you get those lines all the time... to the point where it is not funny anymore
[04:12:00] ** Agrajag- nods **
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[04:28:00] ckline: alright
[04:28:00] ckline: jigdo is still doing the same stuff
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[04:28:00] ckline: FINISHED --22:28:00--
[04:28:00] ckline: Downloaded: 4,262,658 bytes in 5 files
[04:28:00] ckline: Found 5 of the 1172 files required by the template
[04:28:00] ckline: but it keeps saying 5 files every time
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[04:38:00] Agrajag-: ckline: are the files changing? is the bytes changing?
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[04:52:00] Manolis: How do I adjust color/hue/brightness for two capture cards that each need different settings?
[04:54:00] ddiaz: i got mythdvd installed. i have a very end-user question: after i select whatever title(s), i keep getting "0 process selected title{s}". how to actually rip now?
[04:56:00] rjune: does mythmusic have a cache to enable?
[04:57:00] jams: ddiaz, press 0
[04:58:00] jams: rjune don't think so
[04:58:00] rjune: heh, I didn't catch on to that immediately either
[04:58:00] jams: what sort of cache?
[04:58:00] rjune: cache the file it's playing
[04:58:00] jams: if it has one it's not under user control
[04:59:00] rjune: I'm using wifi and it's music sometimes skips, videos works well, but mplayer will cache about 15% of the file
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[05:01:00] ddiaz: jams, "No jobs and nothing else to do. You could hit 0 to rip a DVD."
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[05:02:00] ddiaz: now iget the "0" is the key to press. but still, it doesn't do anything
[05:02:00] ddiaz: mtd doesn't give any input
[05:04:00] ddiaz: got it: "bad destination directory in job request: job dvd 6 1 0 0 -1 /share/Movies/dvd/ALF_SEASON2_DISC1"
[05:05:00] ckline: Agrajag-: yes, the files and bytes are changing, I just thought it was weird that it's not recognizing anything other than the five files it juts downloaded
[05:06:00] rjune: ddiaz: you're trying to rip ALF, the mythbox is refusing on the grounds that it has taste
[05:07:00] ddiaz: rjune, oh, that's why! ;)
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[05:34:00] anxt: audio buffer overflow audio data lost
[05:34:00] anxt: i cannot watch anything in mythfrontend
[05:34:00] anxt: mplayer will play the nuv's no problem
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[05:51:00] Chutt: xris, i need to add more resolution types to trac
[05:51:00] Chutt: xris, 'alreadyfixed', 'needmoreinfo', 'submitterisdumb', etc =)
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[06:07:00] anxt: '/dev/null_cause_its_anxt'
[06:09:00] xris: Chutt: yeah... "alreadyfixed" is similar to "invalid"
[06:10:00] xris: but yeah, it does need a "needmoreinfo" status
[06:10:00] Chutt: what would be really nice is an 'action required by' field
[06:12:00] Chutt: for instance, your recording group stuff could be set as owned by you (since you'll be doing the mythweb stuff), but you could fill in gigem or bjm as an 'action required by'
[06:12:00] Chutt: and annoyance emails would be neat, too =)
[06:18:00] xris: yeah
[06:18:00] xris: we need jarod back.
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[06:19:00] xris: trac + mythtv stuff was going to be his "learn python" project
[06:19:00] dopester: not about penis enlargement though i presume? :)
[06:19:00] xris: anyway, afk for awhile...
[06:21:00] Chutt: dopester, work on code
[06:23:00] dopester: gonna be tough to fight it out with dtk who seems to have nothing but free time :)
[06:26:00] Chutt: heh
[06:26:00] Chutt: his stuff seems to be getting closer to working
[06:27:00] dopester: yeah he emailed me while i was in chitown
[06:45:00] mchou: hi dopester
[06:46:00] dopester: heya mchou
[06:46:00] dopester: if you ask me when bbti is gonna have cards im gonna kill ya :)
[06:46:00] mchou: hehe, I was just looking up cyberestore.....
[06:46:00] mchou: still no product.
[06:46:00] dopester: yeah its lies and deception it seems like more and more
[06:46:00] mchou: good thing I didnt rely on them.
[06:47:00] dopester: i bet i have the only 5th gen air2pc
[06:47:00] mchou: haha!
[06:47:00] dopester: and its held togethre with a rubber band
[06:47:00] mchou: no doubt.
[06:47:00] mchou: you mean duct tape :)
[06:47:00] dopester: naw its a rubber band
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[06:48:00] mchou: I've got a shiny new comp waiting for a HDTV card
[06:48:00] Russ: the data that mythfilldatabase obtained from zap2it for later this week isn't right
[06:48:00] Russ: its like they had a temporary schedule up for a while
[06:48:00] Russ: how do I reload it with new data?
[06:48:00] Russ: I get "Data is already present for Mon Sep 5 2005, skipping"
[06:48:00] Chutt: mythfilldatabase --help
[06:49:00] mchou: Russ: why do you care anyways?
[06:49:00] mchou: the stuff gets updated evey day by default :)
[06:49:00] mchou: every*
[06:49:00] Russ: because all it says for friday night is "Stargate SG-1", for like 3 hours, with no episode description
[06:49:00] Russ: and I know that BSG is playing
[06:49:00] mchou: so?
[06:49:00] Chutt: uh
[06:50:00] Chutt: the data's right.
[06:50:00] Russ: and like all the stuff on toonstarting on the 5th, doesn't have episode information
[06:50:00] Russ: it just says "family guy"
[06:50:00] mchou: so what?
[06:50:00] Russ: "futurama"
[06:50:00] Russ: it doesn't know whats a dup
[06:50:00] mchou: it will get corrected....
[06:51:00] Chutt: comedy central often doesn't have episode information
[06:51:00] Russ: you sure?
[06:51:00] Chutt: err, cartoon network, too
[06:51:00] Chutt: i'm absolutely positive.
[06:51:00] Russ: k
[06:51:00] Chutt: same with sci-fi on friday
[06:51:00] Russ: caus I know I can trust people I meet on IRC
[06:51:00] mchou: haha
[06:51:00] Chutt: then why ask for help on irc?
[06:51:00] mchou: truer words were never spoken :)
[06:51:00] mchou: lol
[06:51:00] mishehu: Even a big brain might go insane to contemplain how the inhumane domain of a robot vein can fail to entertain.
[06:52:00] mishehu: yeah, I wish the lazy jerkoffs would provide the full episode info... I'm sick of seeing "The Daily Show: A humour slant on news"
[06:53:00] mchou: bah, you couch potato!
[06:53:00] mchou: stop complaining....
[06:53:00] Russ: maybe I'm spoiled with full episode info
[06:54:00] mchou: write your own sql method to compare episode # :)
[06:54:00] Russ: its just that weekend
[06:54:00] xris: not to mention that the NEW episode is marked as rerun
[06:54:00] Russ: they must be taking any work involving labor day weekend off
[06:55:00] mchou: bingo!!
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[07:33:00] upgrdman_: how do i change to the channel that i have selected a program of, in the program guide
[07:43:00] rpete: hit 'm'
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[07:49:00] FUD: upgrdman_, you can set it in options to just use enter/space to select it
[07:49:00] upgrdman_: so, by defualt there is no way?
[07:51:00] upgrdman_: oh yes, m, like rpete said
[07:51:00] upgrdman_: thx
[07:51:00] upgrdman_: sorry, i must be blind :)
[07:52:00] upgrdman_: any way to tell it to play the channel, but only in the little window in the program guide, so i can watch the channel, yet continue to look through the guide?
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[07:54:00] FUD: not sure
[07:54:00] Chutt: read keys.txt
[07:54:00] Chutt: and the mythtv docs.
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[08:00:00] fiche: Hi, everybody! I've been Googling for a few hours, and trying to read various sites, and I can't seem to find the answer to my question. Has anyone used an Nvidia 5700 for capturing? Not TV-out, but the actual capturing. Thanks! :)
[08:03:00] mchou: 5700 Cinema does not have linux drivers
[08:03:00] mchou: no dma
[08:03:00] mchou: (driver for the board)
[08:03:00] fiche: thanks. that's too bad, though
[08:03:00] fiche: oh well!
[08:04:00] mchou: it's a great output device tough
[08:04:00] mchou: though*
[08:04:00] fiche: Can you suggest a good tuner to go with it?
[08:04:00] fiche: preferably cheap?
[08:04:00] mchou: pvr1550
[08:04:00] mchou: 150*
[08:04:00] fiche: thanks ::0
[08:04:00] mchou: $60 after rebates
[08:04:00] upgrdman_: Chutt, keys.txt... where might it be
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[08:08:00] upgrdman_: nm found it
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[08:15:00] Agrajag-: gah im getting so much pvmsg spam
[08:15:00] Agrajag-: im registered and +e. dunno what's going on
[08:17:00] upgrdman_: whats +e?
[08:17:00] Agrajag-: mode
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[08:21:00] ip_goat_rodeo: difference between pvr150 and pvr350 is mainly the 150 lacks the video out and the remote right?
[08:23:00] mchou: 150 retail has remote and irblaster. But other than that you are correct....
[08:23:00] mchou: 150 retail doesnt have fm either....
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[08:29:00] upgrdman: anyone know approx how many MBps hdtv is
[08:30:00] upgrdman: or well Mbps would be ok... i'd just have to divide it by 8
[08:34:00] Agrajag-: it can be broadcast at whatever the broadcaster chooses
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[08:34:00] Agrajag-: in au there's sd and hd, sd as far as i can remember is about 10–15, hd is... i think about 20mbps. not sure, was a while ago i checked, but around that
[08:36:00] swim: hey folks, in archlinux i cant get any good image when watching tv, i just get static... ive got all the inputs correctly with ivtvctl
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[08:39:00] upgrdman: Agrajag-, Mb or MB ... ps
[08:40:00] Agrajag-: did i write mbps or mBps?
[08:41:00] anxt: swim, is the tuner type set correctly?
[08:43:00] swim: anxt, yes I set it with ivtvctl -P 6
[08:43:00] swim: which is tuner 0
[08:44:00] anxt: no i mean
[08:44:00] anxt: when the modules are inserted
[08:44:00] anxt: ie i have a NTSC pvr-350 and i hafta set tuner type to 39
[08:44:00] swim: oh anxt yes it shows pvr 150..
[08:45:00] anxt: or pvr-250 rather
[08:45:00] swim: and i have had this work before too btw
[08:45:00] swim: not on this distro though
[08:47:00] anxt: dmesg | grep tveeprom | grep uner
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[08:49:00] swim_: anxt, I got this: tveeprom: tuner = <unknown> (idx = 99, type = 1)
[08:49:00] swim_: tveeprom: tuner fmt = NTSC(M) (eeprom = 0x08, v4l2 = 0x00001000)
[08:49:00] swim_: tveeprom: tuner = <unknown> (idx = 99, type = 1)
[08:49:00] swim_: tveeprom: tuner fmt = NTSC(M) (eeprom = 0x08, v4l2 = 0x00001000)
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[10:08:00] swim_: im using an sb live card btw
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[13:09:00] johnp_: dvbtune ?
[13:15:00] k-man_: hmmm
[13:15:00] k-man_: whats that?
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[13:39:00] Agrajag-: femon
[13:39:00] Agrajag-: part of dvb-utils
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[13:55:00] Flimzy: I'm having some difficulty with mpeg4 video transcoded from rtjpeg...
[13:55:00] Flimzy: It won't seek properly
[13:55:00] Flimzy: Yesterday someone suggested that I set the commflag process to run after transcoding... and I did that
[13:55:00] Flimzy: now seeking _sorta_ works.. but not properly
[13:56:00] Flimzy: before the change, an attempt to seek generally led to the video freezing entirely
[13:56:00] Flimzy: Now, it will show a 2-hour movie to be "4 minutes" long (or so), and will seek in incriments of up to "1:45" (which seems to really be closer to 20 minutes, or so)
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[14:40:00] Flimzy: Has anyone else had problems seeking through an mpeg4 stream? in my case, one transcoded from rtjpeg
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[15:48:00] Spherical`: Anyone to recommend a cheap PC TV card with good quality that works under v4l / Linux.
[15:48:00] Spherical`: ?
[15:49:00] laga: hauppauge pvr 150
[15:49:00] Spherical`: OK :)
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[15:50:00] Spherical`: laga, and where do you recommend that I buy it from?
[15:51:00] laga: Spherical`: well, i'd buy it from some german store :)
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[16:27:00] hadees: wtf is going on
[16:31:00] StillBob: hadees: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#spambots
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[17:07:00] epoch: er, wrong #
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[17:11:00] onetwo: Hi, I am trying to transcode a dvb-t .nuv file into an mpeg to watch on pocket tv, has anyone had success doing this?
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[17:38:00] LarruManChu: is there anyway to change the command for mythmusic like you do in mythvideo?
[17:39:00] LarruManChu: I'd like to set the output sample rate to 48 kHz
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[17:42:00] GreyFoxx: LarruManChu: not without editing the code I don't think
[17:43:00] LarruManChu: damn... still having problems with my soundcard and rate locking
[17:44:00] LarruManChu: I disabled it and everything was working for about 20 minutes and then wifey got home and tried to watch a recording... no sound
[17:44:00] LarruManChu: turned on rate locking... sound back but obviously couldn't play all sources correctly
[17:45:00] GreyFoxx: I've never had to deal with that sort of thing at all
[17:45:00] LarruManChu: it's only with envy24 chipsets
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[17:46:00] LarruManChu: it's definately an alsa issue but I might be able to live with it if I could get mythmusic to output a specific sample rate
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[17:49:00] GreyFoxx: looks like there is a audio resampling routine in there, but I don't see anything that calls it
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[17:49:00] GreyFoxx: Eitherway, the source is the only way you are going to get mythmusic to do it for you :)
[17:50:00] LarruManChu: well I could play with .asoundrc until I get one that can convert and then set that as the audio device (e.g. ALSA:digital)
[17:50:00] GreyFoxx: true enough
[17:50:00] mdp_: wow, gcc 4.0 sure screws up firewire ts recordings. all better when running a backend built with 3.4.
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[17:55:00] GreyFoxx: Man, I love computers some days (especially when it doesn't involve customers)
[17:55:00] ** GreyFoxx is playing mp3's in Mythmusic running on a OpenBSD 3.8 snapshot under vmware on a WinXP laptop **
[17:56:00] laga: hehe, nice
[17:57:00] GreyFoxx: And I found a bug in the QT library which was causing mythweather to not be able to resolve the hostnames it needs to grab the weather data, but it's a bug that wouldn't show up under linux which is why it's probably never been fixed
[17:57:00] GreyFoxx: Hopefully the patch will make it into the ports tree before 3.8 is released
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[18:35:00] sphing: anyone used mythstream?
[18:37:00] GreyFoxx: if you mean mythstreamtv then yeah I do
[18:37:00] sphing: link?
[18:38:00] sphing: so i dont ask you a bunch of stupid questions
[18:38:00] GreyFoxx: huh?
[18:38:00] GreyFoxx: link to what ?
[18:38:00] sphing: mythstreamtv.... or is it in the plugins
[18:38:00] laga: there is a difference between mythstreamtv and mythstream
[18:38:00] laga: mythstream is for listening to internet broadcasts iirc
[18:38:00] GreyFoxx: I don't actually remember where I got it from. I think I just used a link that was posted in the mailling list
[18:39:00] sphing: laga: i'm interested in streaming livetv
[18:39:00] GreyFoxx: I actually rately use the interface to mythweb for it, I just use my own shell scripts to call vlc directly now
[18:39:00] laga: sphing: i'm afraid that won't work with mythstreamtv
[18:40:00] sphing: basically... i'm tailgating on saturday... and i'd like to stream it to my car
[18:40:00] sphing: (i'm tailgating on campus, so I have wifi)
[18:41:00] GreyFoxx: I hacked up a perl script I use to generate the vlc command I use to stream livetv
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[18:41:00] sphing: GreyFoxx: and i can change channels?
[18:41:00] sphing: *it
[18:41:00] GreyFoxx: The script just gives me the vlc line to do what I want which I paste back to the command prompt
[18:42:00] GreyFoxx: I'm sure vlc could change channels but I've never looked into doing that
[18:42:00] GreyFoxx: otherwise I could use the chann.c app that comes with the ivtv drivers to do it
[18:44:00] sphing: GreyFoxx: can you send?
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[18:46:00] GreyFoxx: www.phaze.org/mythtv/streamlive.pl
[18:47:00] GreyFoxx: I just do something like ./streamlive.pl 9
[18:47:00] GreyFoxx: and it spits out the command I run to live stream channel 9 (ntsc)
[18:48:00] GreyFoxx: of course you would have to change your bitrates/scaling and so on to suit your own needs
[18:49:00] sphing: Internal Server Error
[18:49:00] GreyFoxx: HAHAHAHA it tried to execute it like a CGI
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[18:49:00] GreyFoxx: hold on
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[18:51:00] GreyFoxx: http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/streamlive-pl.txt
[18:51:00] sphing: thx
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[18:52:00] Dibblah: Anyone want to guess how the Gentoo ebuild is broken today?
[18:52:00] GreyFoxx: I just never bothered to finish it to allow for filling in all of the bitrates and such at the commandline and executing ti for you
[18:52:00] Dibblah: The fake one, I guess. I can't be bothered with it, since I moved to "real" builds some time back.
[18:52:00] laga: Dibblah: i'm sure you're going to tell us in a few short minutes ;)
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[18:53:00] Dibblah: TBH, I can't be bothered. DVB is busted for me and I'm trying not to go insane.
[18:54:00] Dibblah: Attempting to learn C++ and a big chunk of the code'll do that to me.
[18:54:00] sphing: GreyFoxx: you've done plenty thanks a bunch
[18:54:00] sphing: how time to see how shitty this will stream
[18:55:00] Dibblah: Is that stream coming off a PVR-x50?
[18:55:00] sphing: 2
[18:55:00] Dibblah: If so, the vlc command line is probably missing some black magic.
[18:55:00] sphing: ... meaning?
[18:56:00] Dibblah: Meaning that playback will be jerky.
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[18:57:00] jchadwick: I'm having a problem connecting to the database from the frontend.
[18:57:00] jchadwick: If i do it manually, everything is fine
[18:58:00] Dibblah: sphing: Got it :)
[18:58:00] Dibblah: Add --cr-average 1000 to the command line.
[18:58:00] sphing: mmm thank
[18:58:00] sphing: s
[18:59:00] Dibblah: Try it without and see if that issue is still current... It may have been fixed.
[19:00:00] sphing: its compiling now
[19:00:00] Dibblah: Huh? A Gentoo guy? Noooooo... Run away...
[19:02:00] GreyFoxx: Dibblah: Yes it's off a 250, no pplayback problems at all
[19:04:00] jchadwick: What is the Debian package that contains the QMYSQL3 drivers?
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[19:04:00] flithm: hey everyone... is there a place for submitting bug reports?
[19:04:00] GreyFoxx: http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac
[19:05:00] GreyFoxx: be very specific
[19:05:00] GreyFoxx: and Maybe look over existing ones to see what has already been submitted incase it's a known issue
[19:05:00] flithm: GreyFoxx: gotcha... and obviously search for preexisting reports :).
[19:05:00] flithm: heh
[19:05:00] GreyFoxx: yeah :)
[19:06:00] flithm: I like this trac way better than bugzilla
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[19:08:00] Spherical`: Spherical` Erm someone recommended that I buy a PVR 150 earlier for Linux – I have plugged it in but I can't see it in "lspci" netiher can I see a /dev/video0 etc
[19:08:00] Spherical`: Spherical` zapping (GNOME TV) doesn't work either.
[19:08:00] Spherical`: Spherical` Is configuration required / kernel recompilation?
[19:09:00] GreyFoxx: I would try moving it around into another pci slots. Regardless of whether or not is has drivers loaded or configured it should at least show up in lspci as being plugged into the system
[19:09:00] laga: Spherical`: ivtv
[19:09:00] laga: Spherical`: ivtv.sf.net
[19:10:00] Spherical`: GreyFoxx, possibly. laga what should I be seeing?
[19:10:00] Spherical`: In lspci?
[19:10:00] flithm: Spherical`: I just got my 150 to work yesterday. It comes up in lspci for me as: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
[19:11:00] Spherical`: 0000:00:0a.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
[19:11:00] Spherical`: Got it
[19:11:00] jchadwick: What library does mythtv use to connect to MySQL?
[19:11:00] GreyFoxx: jchadwick: The QT Mysql plugin
[19:12:00] Dibblah: Pointing someone to the sf version of IVTV? Nasty :)
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[19:12:00] MrSpiffy: yo!
[19:12:00] jchadwick: GreyFoxx: what is the actual library file?
[19:12:00] Dibblah: No.
[19:12:00] flithm: Spherical`: you need the latest ivtv, the dev branch, not the stable branch. and you need to copy HcwMakoA.ROM from your windows driver cd to /lib/modules before modprobing the ivtv module. Also make sure when "make install"ing to follow the instructions exactly about hiding and preexisting kernel modules that ivtv replaces.
[19:12:00] GreyFoxx: libqsqlmysql.so
[19:13:00] flithm: Spherical`: "hiding any preexisting" is what I meant.
[19:13:00] jchadwick: GreyFoxx: thanks
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[19:15:00] flithm: Spherical`: it works really nice though once you get it set up... my other tuner card is a POS ATI TvWonder... it doesn't even compare. Also I don't think the TV apps will work correctly. xawtv doesn't because it expects a standard V4L device (not an mpeg2 transport). But you can test it by doing mplayer /dev/video0
[19:15:00] Spherical`: Ahh :)
[19:16:00] Spherical`: sounds good, have you got mythTv working with it?
[19:16:00] flithm: Spherical`: yeah it works so good. My old card took up 40% of my CPU when watching tv / recording... this one takes like 1% or 2%, and the quality is so much better.
[19:18:00] Spherical`: flithm, how about the remote control?
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[19:19:00] flithm: Spherical`: Oh... I'm using the remote from my ATI... it's an RF remote, I like it way better than the IR ones. I can finally point it at my face and still use it.
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[19:22:00] flithm: Hey Beirdo you here? I got a nuvtools related question.
[19:24:00] GreyFoxx: He's on vacation, might not be online much if at all while he's gone :)
[19:25:00] flithm: cool... well I suppose you guys probably use nuvtools too eh? I'm curious if it will automatically discard flagged commercials somehow? Or do I have to manually edit and set cut points?
[19:26:00] GreyFoxx: I don't use them actually
[19:26:00] GreyFoxx: I don't transcode, nor cut commericals
[19:26:00] GreyFoxx: at least exceedingly rare. I think I MIGHT have done 2 in the last year :)
[19:27:00] GreyFoxx: but nuvexport will honour the cutlist
[19:27:00] flithm: gotcha
[19:29:00] MrSpiffy: flithm, yes, nuvexport will discard the flagged commercials – select Enable Myth Cutlist (Yes) while exporting
[19:29:00] flithm: cool
[19:29:00] MrSpiffy: hey GreyFoxx thanks again for the interal player tip – saved my bacon
[19:30:00] GreyFoxx: MrSpiffy: np
[19:30:00] flithm: what's this internal player tip?
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[19:30:00] MrSpiffy: instead of setting the player to mplayer -blahblah blah set it to Internal
[19:30:00] flithm: there's an internal player!?
[19:30:00] GreyFoxx: Yup
[19:30:00] flithm: whoa dude
[19:30:00] GreyFoxx: the same one you use to watch TV :)
[19:30:00] flithm: can it play divx and stuff?
[19:30:00] GreyFoxx: and you get to keep the same controls, OSD, and menus :)
[19:30:00] MrSpiffy: myth then plays back avi video files using its own player – the same one that you use to watch tv and recorded tv
[19:30:00] GreyFoxx: yup
[19:31:00] MrSpiffy: yup
[19:31:00] flithm: no !$(*&! way
[19:31:00] flithm: that's awesome
[19:31:00] GreyFoxx: Heh
[19:31:00] MrSpiffy: yep !$(*&! way
[19:31:00] MrSpiffy: it rocks
[19:31:00] flithm: why isn't it set as the default?
[19:31:00] GreyFoxx: There is an internal DVD player too :)
[19:31:00] MrSpiffy: it uses the same size/scale/overscan options – centered just right unlike mplayer
[19:31:00] GreyFoxx: But that needs work
[19:32:00] MrSpiffy: GreyFoxx, cool! – same deal, set it to Internal ?
[19:32:00] MrSpiffy: does it support menu's and – gasp – dts ?
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[19:32:00] MrSpiffy: GreyFoxx, good to know – great idea having the whole thing self contained like that instead of relying on external progs
[19:32:00] GreyFoxx: MrSpiffy: I can't remember if it's "Internal", "internal" or "internal %s"
[19:33:00] GreyFoxx: But it needs a lot of work
[19:33:00] MrSpiffy: check
[19:33:00] GreyFoxx: menus and all that are not functional
[19:33:00] MrSpiffy: cool – perhaps in a future release
[19:33:00] GreyFoxx: though it uses dvdnav so it just needs to be hooked in
[19:33:00] MrSpiffy: ah
[19:33:00] MrSpiffy: another dep ;)
[19:33:00] flithm: One thing I like about mplayer is I set it to volume normalize the output... I hate how movies these days are like 10094282 dB when music or explosions happen but like 1.4 dB when people are talking.
[19:34:00] MrSpiffy: flithm, tell me about it
[19:34:00] GreyFoxx: flithm: That would be nice. I hate that too, but I've never looked into fixing it
[19:35:00] MrSpiffy: btw – the new version of avidemux3 doesn;t cough up a hairball on mp3 audio
[19:35:00] MrSpiffy: avidemux2 (sorry)
[19:36:00] flithm: Yeah you just use: -aop list=volnorm to normalize the volume
[19:36:00] GreyFoxx: flithm: Nice. I'm remember that
[19:36:00] MrSpiffy: I used it this moring to copy a myth nuv to an avi
[19:36:00] MrSpiffy: flithm, thanks – I like it
[19:36:00] GreyFoxx: I don't think I've noticed that in Myth but it would be a nice feature if it's not in there now
[19:38:00] flithm: Hey guys... when I use nuvexport the list shows a program that I've already deleted (and does not show up in MythTV)... is it safe to say this is a nuvtools bug?
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[19:40:00] GreyFoxx: Well, nuvtools pulls the list from the database, so I'd wonder why it's finding that in the DB
[19:40:00] flithm: yeah
[19:40:00] flithm: I wonder that too
[19:40:00] flithm: mythbackend crashes for me once in a while when deleting shows... maybe the db got messed up
[19:43:00] flithm: this is odd... if I browse the database with phpmyadmin I can see the deleted program in the recorded table, but when I use mythfrontend or mythweb to browse recorded shows it's not there!
[19:44:00] GreyFoxx: check the sql query being used to poll the DB, they must be excluding something that nuvexport isn't
[19:45:00] flithm: How do I check that?
[19:45:00] GreyFoxx: vi source.c
[19:45:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[19:45:00] GreyFoxx: Or turn on MySQL logging (if it's not already on)
[19:46:00] flithm: hmmm
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[19:46:00] flithm: or I could just close my eyes and pretend nothing is wrong
[19:46:00] flithm: heh
[19:46:00] GreyFoxx: heh
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[20:03:00] Tatster: Hi – I'm just pricing up a new Myth Frontend machine – I have a backend box with my capture cards in. Is a fanless EPIA 800Mhz machine powerful enough to run Frontend across a wireless network?
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[20:05:00] flithm: oh yeah... my frontend is a p3–800 and it uses at max 40–50% CPU when playing tv / movies. it kinda sucks for fullscreen music visualizations, but other than that works good
[20:05:00] GreyFoxx: One thing to remember is that the fanless epias also lower the clock speed when you are busy/get warm from prolonged cpu usage
[20:06:00] GreyFoxx: so that's 800mhz with little load
[20:06:00] flithm: ahh this I didn't know...
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[20:08:00] Tatster: so is it better to go for something a bit faster?
[20:09:00] GreyFoxx: I would. I don't think the 800mhz ones have th eonboard mpeg decoder to save some of the cpu load do they ?
[20:09:00] burly: how much more is the 1GHz version?
[20:09:00] burly: i konw its not entirely passively cooled, but I am curious
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[20:12:00] Tatster: From what I read the EPIA SP 8000E board does have mpeg decoding – http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=444#p1627 – £129.00 +VAT
[20:12:00] XAD: the cn400 versions has MPEG4 hardware support... the CLE266 only have MPEG2...
[20:14:00] burly: MPEG4 support =]
[20:14:00] burly: that would be great for transcoders
[20:14:00] Tatster: burly: Mini-itx have VIA EPIA SP 13000 Mini-ITX Motherboard – 1.3Ghz for £129 + VAT
[20:14:00] GreyFoxx: nah, I've yet to see a consumer level decoder that fed the the decoded data back to the user
[20:14:00] GreyFoxx: It just gets sent right to the video buffers
[20:15:00] XAD: the SP has CN400....
[20:15:00] XAD: why don't you check the MythTV-EPIA-distro forum?? They should know whats enough...
[20:16:00] Tatster: ah that sounds interesting – where is it?
[20:16:00] burly: GreyFoxx: right, but what im saying is, if you transcode to MPEG4 on the backend, when you stream it to the frontend if you have MPEG4 hardware decoding support, it is offloaded to the hardware accelerator
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[20:16:00] burly: like MPEG2 hardware decoder support does
[20:16:00] XAD: there is a link from the MythTV link page...
[20:17:00] burly: which is nice, because MPEG4 decoding is even more CPU intensive than MPEG2
[20:17:00] XAD: there is also epiOS which is a distro for EPIA boards...
[20:18:00] XAD: I think it was there I read a performance test of different cards and DVD/MPEG4 work....
[20:18:00] flithm: hey does anyone here use Picture in Picture? I just changed the recording resolution of my main card, and now the aspect ratio of my PiP window is messed up... anyone know anything about this?
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[20:20:00] Dibblah: Anyone on here on Gentoo, or is everyone else sane?
[20:20:00] flithm: I'm Gentoo
[20:20:00] Dibblah: ... You one of the ones that's having issues with the ebuild?
[20:20:00] Krazylegz: Yes. I am currently have two Gentoo CDs under my butt. :-)
[20:21:00] Dibblah: Ahah. Hah. Hah. ;)
[20:21:00] flithm: ebuild worked fine for me
[20:23:00] Dibblah: Woo hoo! :)
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[20:23:00] kormoc: I'm on gentoo
[20:24:00] kormoc: why wouldn't the ebuild work fine, except for known issues?
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[20:26:00] flithm: anyone know anything about the PiP aspect ratio? I guess its not a big deal, it's just PiP...
[20:26:00] GreyFoxx: hah I just made a customer very happy. I was mucking around in there database and found almost 2000 customers who were not being billed for their cable modem service :) And at the $39 they charge that's up to $78k a month in missing revenue :)
[20:26:00] Dibblah: Because Gentoo's bloody well messing around with symlinks. /usr/lib/X11R6 is a symlink to /usr/lib...
[20:27:00] flithm: Dibblah: I don't even have a /usr/lib/X11R6 at all... I have a /usr/lib/X11 which is not a symlink. But even so, why would that matter? Lots of distros do stuff like that. It's a lot better than keep multiple copies of files everywhere
[20:28:00] Dibblah: Which means the programs / libs when they're built and linked link against the old versions (since /usr/lib/X11R6 is before the build directory. Giving horrible symbol mismatches, which don't tell the person who's building anything useful.
[20:28:00] Dibblah: Yes, but it broke the build. And probably will for _any_ other large project linking against it's own libs.
[20:28:00] ** Krazylegz cancels cable service **
[20:29:00] flithm: I've never run into that... and like i said I don't even have that same thing you do.
[20:29:00] flithm: which is weird
[20:29:00] Dibblah: ls -l /usr/X11R6/lib
[20:29:00] Dibblah: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Jul 16 22:48 /usr/X11R6/lib -> ../lib
[20:30:00] Dibblah: Anyway. I've reopened the bug with a patch, since I'm getting bloody nowhere with my DVB issue.
[20:30:00] flithm: drwxr-xr-x 104 root root 53248 Aug 30 08:53 /usr/X11R6/lib
[20:30:00] ** flithm shrugs **
[20:31:00] flithm: I can see why that would be a problem Dibblah
[20:31:00] flithm: you're not using xfree are you?
[20:32:00] Dibblah: No – This is xorg.
[20:32:00] flithm: weird man
[20:32:00] Dibblah: But it's not xorg's layout.
[20:32:00] Dibblah: This is _purely_ a Gentoo perversion.
[20:32:00] flithm: how old is your install?
[20:33:00] Dibblah: The xorg and baselayout are current.
[20:33:00] flithm: I have two gentoo boxes (with different install dates, both up to date with stable, no unstable)... and neither of them exhibit what you're seeing
[20:34:00] kormoc: Dibblah, uhh, that's not the same on my gentoo boxes as well
[20:34:00] kormoc: baselayout-1.12.0_pre6-r3
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[20:35:00] Dibblah: sys-apps/baselayout-1.11.13
[20:35:00] flithm: baselayout 1.11.13 here too
[20:35:00] kormoc: and baselayout won't touch that anyway.
[20:35:00] Dibblah: I think it's more the xorg, however.
[20:36:00] Dibblah: x11-base/xorg-x11–6.8.2-r2
[20:36:00] flithm: same Dibblah
[20:36:00] kormoc: same as well
[20:36:00] Dibblah: Well, there's a bug in Trac that says it's not just my fevered imaginings :)
[20:37:00] kormoc: have you ran revdep-rebuild lately?
[20:37:00] flithm: I was going to suggest that as well
[20:38:00] Dibblah: Hmmm... I don't see how that affects anything, really. It's in the xorg rebuild...
[20:39:00] Dibblah: ebuild, even.
[20:39:00] kormoc: revdep-rebuild will recalculate the dynamic linking and reemerge packages that are broken, as you seem to sudgest that your packages are.
[20:40:00] Dibblah: No, they're not :)
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[20:41:00] Dibblah: Look at this portion of one of the link commands: moc_test1.o -L/usr/qt/3/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L../../libs/libmyth -L../../libs/libmythui
[20:42:00] Dibblah: ... Which is processed in left -> right order as a library search path.
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[20:43:00] Dibblah: So, what happens is the old (installed) versions of the library are linked instead of the current (just built) ones.
[20:43:00] sparky_elite: is there an easy way to use 2 different remotes with myth?
[20:43:00] Dibblah: Do you mean to control Myth with?
[20:44:00] Dibblah: sparky_elite: ?
[20:44:00] Chutt: why are you installing myth into /usr/X11R6/lib in the first place?
[20:45:00] Chutt: or even /usr/lib, really, if you're compiling it on your own
[20:48:00] Dibblah: I'm not.
[20:48:00] kormoc: it's the gentoo ebuild.
[20:48:00] Dibblah: ... Again.
[20:49:00] kormoc: Dibblah, so unmerge mythtv then emerge mythtv, problem fixed.
[20:49:00] kormoc: anyway, it's dynamic linking, so it really doesn't matter that much anyway, no?
[20:49:00] Dibblah: However, the patch should prevent any of these oddities.
[20:49:00] sparky_elite: Dibblah, yea
[20:49:00] Dibblah: Yes, it does.
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[20:49:00] Dibblah: It fails at link time.
[20:49:00] kormoc: when the new lib is in place it will use it.
[20:49:00] kormoc: ooh?
[20:49:00] kormoc: with what?
[20:49:00] sparky_elite: Dibblah, but never mind I just added stuff to my lircd.conf file for the new remote hat to google
[20:50:00] Chutt: undefined symbols
[20:50:00] Dibblah: sparky: Cool :)
[20:50:00] kormoc: huh
[20:50:00] Dibblah: Look in the bug if you really care ;)
[20:50:00] Chutt: of course, if gentoo didn't have /usr/X11R6/lib in the qt config (it should be completely unnecessary), it wouldn't be an issue
[20:51:00] Dibblah: And at the -commits list now if you want to see a fistfight, followed by Trac going non-anonymous only.
[20:51:00] kormoc: Chutt, that odd thing is, on my box, it doesn't link to /usr/X11R6/lib
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[20:51:00] Chutt: it shouldn't be, really
[20:51:00] Chutt: unless it's putting qt libraries into there
[20:51:00] djperegrine: Ok whenever I have to reboot I have to type in ivtvctl -q 1 to get the audio working, and now I want to get my s-video input working
[20:51:00] Dibblah: No. It's a sucky idea.
[20:51:00] Chutt: which again, it shouldn't be
[20:52:00] djperegrine: it works if I do ivtvctl -p 0
[20:52:00] djperegrine: but when I got to mythtv, and go to watchtv and press c, nothing happens
[20:52:00] Dibblah: However, when is linking to your freshly baked libraries rather than anything that _might_ be lying about a bad idea?
[20:52:00] djperegrine: and after I do ivtvctl -p 0 I have to do ivtctl -q 1 again
[20:53:00] Dibblah: djperegrine: What ivtv version?
[20:53:00] djperegrine: 0.3.7c
[20:53:00] djperegrine: I think
[20:53:00] Dibblah: Oooh. Old ;)
[20:53:00] Chutt: see, myth explicitly sets QMAKE_LIBDIR_X11 to by empty to work around stuff like this
[20:53:00] Chutt: something else in gentoo's qmake config is adding in the /usr/X11R6/lib
[20:53:00] Dibblah: Yup. Gentoo just keeps on coming up with new ways to suck.
[20:53:00] Chutt: and it shouldn't be.
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[20:54:00] djperegrine: Old ?
[20:54:00] djperegrine: its pretty new
[20:55:00] Chutt: dibblah, can you paste your /usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf into pastebin or something?
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[20:55:00] Dibblah: djperegrine: It's more than 2 weeks old! Sheesh. Back when I was getting ivtv working, that was prehistoric!
[20:56:00] djperegrine: lol
[20:56:00] djperegrine: I had the newest
[20:56:00] Dibblah: QMAKE_LIBDIR_OPENGL = /usr/X11R6/lib
[20:56:00] djperegrine: but someone recommened to get this because its more stable
[20:57:00] Chutt: i don't think that should be getting used anywhere..
[20:57:00] Chutt: unless it only breaks on libmythui for you?
[20:57:00] Chutt: err, mythuitest, rather
[20:58:00] Dibblah: That's what the bug was referring to.
[20:58:00] Chutt: right, but does it affect anything else?
[20:59:00] Dibblah: Yes.
[20:59:00] Dibblah: If OpenGL sync is defined...
[20:59:00] Chutt: the libmythtv?
[21:00:00] Dibblah: I'm just double checking that, but I see it in the libmythtv link lines.
[21:01:00] ** GreyFoxx submits 2 months of bogus timesheets and waits for the shit storm **
[21:02:00] Chutt: if it's just that, that's easy to fix in settings.pro
[21:02:00] Chutt: instead of every other .pro file :p
[21:02:00] Dibblah: Ugh. -L/usr/qt/3/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lmyth-0.18 -lmythavutil-0.18 -lmythavcodec-0.18 -lmythavformat-0.18 -lmythmpeg2–0.18 -lfreetype -lmp3lame -lasound -ldvdnav -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXinerama -lXv -lX11 -lXext -lXxf86vm -lXvMCNVIDIA -lXvMC -lGL -lGLU -L../libmyth -L../libavutil -L../libavcodec -L../libavformat -L../libmythmpeg2
[21:02:00] Chutt: which one's that?
[21:03:00] Dibblah: libmythtv
[21:03:00] Chutt: oh, that's from your patch
[21:03:00] Dibblah: That's _after_ my hackery.
[21:03:00] Dibblah: Just a sec, reverting.
[21:03:00] Chutt: you reordered too much
[21:03:00] Chutt: revert everything, i'll commit something that should do it cleaner
[21:04:00] Dibblah: -L/usr/qt/3/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L../libmyth -L../libavutil -L../libavcodec -L../libavformat -L../libmythmpeg2
[21:05:00] Dibblah: Yes, I know. Sorry – I've been staring at code for days now trying to understand how the DVB stuff hangs together, so I can get it working again.
[21:05:00] Chutt: ok
[21:05:00] Chutt: you'll have to reupdate or whatnot
[21:05:00] Chutt: but lemme know if that fixes things
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[21:07:00] GreyFoxx: Chutt: Since the inetcomm.* stuff in libmyth appears to only be used by mythweather should the error messages have the "MythVideo:" stuff removed since it makes it look like errors are coming from a different plugin than what is actually being used ?:)
[21:07:00] Chutt: heh
[21:07:00] Dibblah: Chutt: Thanks!
[21:08:00] Chutt: greyfoxx, one of those http grabber classes should go
[21:09:00] Dibblah: Chutt: That link line looks much better. Can't tell if it really helps until the next binary version update, though.
[21:09:00] GreyFoxx: use httpcomms instead of inetcomms? mythweather seems to use both, but I imagine it could use just the one easily enough
[21:09:00] Chutt: right
[21:09:00] Chutt: greyfoxx, one of them's more capable than the other
[21:09:00] Dibblah: ... Which doesn't necessarily follow. The next update of libmythtv.
[21:09:00] Chutt: libmythui's what caused it to break
[21:10:00] GreyFoxx: httpcomms looks to be much more flesh out than the barebones inetcomms stuff
[21:10:00] Dibblah: Brain the size of a goldfish here.
[21:11:00] Dibblah: Looks OK: -L/usr/qt/3/lib -L../libmyth -lmyth-0.18 -lfreetype -lmp3lame -lasound -ldvdnav -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib
[21:13:00] GreyFoxx: Heh mythweather uses inetcomm to get static radar mapps, but httpcomm to grab animated ones :) weird :)
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[21:17:00] Chutt: heh, yup
[21:18:00] Chutt: written by different people
[21:18:00] GreyFoxx: I'm looking at moving them to httpcomms completely. inetcomms is very barebones
[21:21:00] djperegrine: I also have another problem, often in mythvideo and a few other screens I can't escape
[21:21:00] djperegrine: like I press esc and it does nothing
[21:22:00] djperegrine: so I have to ctrl alt and restart the frontend
[21:22:00] GreyFoxx: have you tried ALT-TAB and then use the keyboard/button ?
[21:22:00] GreyFoxx: Maybe you've got a focus issue ?
[21:22:00] djperegrine: I meant atl tab not ctrl alt
[21:22:00] djperegrine: yea
[21:23:00] GreyFoxx: I assume you are running a window manager of some sort?
[21:23:00] djperegrine: fluxbox
[21:23:00] djperegrine: it happens other times to
[21:23:00] djperegrine: not just the video
[21:23:00] GreyFoxx: still sounds like a focus issue
[21:24:00] GreyFoxx: but I'm not sure how to diagnose it since I never have any
[21:24:00] djperegrine: yea\
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[21:37:00] djperegrine: Can you change the input and still record?
[21:37:00] djperegrine: like lets say I want to watch a DVD from my s-video input
[21:37:00] djperegrine: will it still record TV from the compsite ?
[21:42:00] kormoc: don't beleive so
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[22:01:00] djperegrine: :(
[22:01:00] djperegrine: so I have to stop recording just to watch a dvd
[22:01:00] djperegrine: that is pretty lame
[22:01:00] GreyFoxx: Why would you put the DVD through the capture card at all ?
[22:02:00] GreyFoxx: plug your dvd player directly into the TV/receiver or just use mythdvd/xine/whatever to play it on the PC. No need to put it through a capture card
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[23:04:00] jgirotti: what version of ffmpeg does anyone have installed?
[23:06:00] kormoc: 0.4.9_p20050226-r5
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[23:12:00] otwin: ffmpeg version 0.4.9-pre1, build 4718
[23:14:00] jgirotti: are you running nuvexport?
[23:16:00] otwin: well, it is installed but have not tried out yet.
[23:18:00] jgirotti: i'm running the same build and trying to get nuvexport to work
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[23:21:00] otwin: just tried nuvexport – it doesn´t work, but i don´t suspect it to be linked to ffmpeg (Illegal division by zero...)
[23:21:00] kormoc: I run nuvexport fin
[23:21:00] kormoc: e
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[23:23:00] otwin: i installed that version because of mythstreamtv
[23:26:00] jgirotti: ok how am i supposed to fix the link to ffmpeg? i got the same error and i tried google, the mail-lists and haven't found anything
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[23:27:00] Sevoma: hi
[23:27:00] Sevoma: which is better. the pvr-150 or the pvr-250?
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[23:28:00] Sevoma: umm.. there is a lot of people on. why aren't you talking
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[23:29:00] kormoc: because you could look up the answer in the channel wiki that's in the topic?
[23:30:00] jgirotti: is there a config file that i can edit put in the location of ffmpeg?
[23:31:00] Sevoma: which capture device has the best quaility?
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[23:44:00] Krazylegz: Ah, Beirdo's blog. Such elegant words I have never read. :-)
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[23:59:00] otwin: @jgirotti: may be it´s a bug – found this https://svn.forevermore.net/nuvexport/ticket/43

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