| Wednesday, August 24th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | Beirdo: | yes, I think so |
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| [00:01:00] | djperegrine: | what program do you use to stream video from myth to remote PCs again? |
| [00:01:00] | sphing: | ugh... i ask cause of the remote... i got myth running, but no remote |
| [00:01:00] | Beirdo: | oh, it's not me, but I'm sure "anyone" has |
| [00:01:00] | sphing: | ah... |
| [00:01:00] | Beirdo: | djperegrine: umm, the backend |
| [00:02:00] | djperegrine: | no I mean like |
| [00:02:00] | djperegrine: | there is some program that converts the stream to windows media format and you can view it from the LAN or something |
| [00:02:00] | sphing: | djperegrine, i'd try vlc |
| [00:03:00] | sphing: | vlc can read myth nuv's and stream |
| [00:03:00] | sphing: | but its not meant as a backend |
| [00:03:00] | djperegrine: | I have a backend |
| [00:03:00] | djperegrine: | I want a frontend on my laptop |
| [00:03:00] | sphing: | install frontend? |
| [00:03:00] | djperegrine: | its windows |
| [00:03:00] | sphing: | get knoppmyth |
| [00:04:00] | djperegrine: | um no |
| [00:04:00] | kjp_: | djperegrine: install linux. |
| [00:04:00] | sphing: | djperegrine, why not? |
| [00:04:00] | djperegrine: | I need atleast one windows box |
| [00:04:00] | djperegrine: | plus I am a game devoloper |
| [00:04:00] | sphing: | knoppmyth runs off cd |
| [00:04:00] | sphing: | doesnt touch the harddrive |
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| [00:04:00] | djperegrine: | oh yea |
| [00:04:00] | djperegrine: | I forgot about that |
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| [00:05:00] | sphing: | or just manually stream every file through vlc |
| [00:05:00] | sphing: | but you're going to need vlc on the windows also as wmp sucks at receiving streams |
| [00:05:00] | djperegrine: | brb |
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| [00:08:00] | sphing: | anyone help me with some general lirc questions |
| [00:09:00] | jonK: | maybe |
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| [00:10:00] | sphing: | is there supposed to be a /dev/lirc AND /dev/lircd |
| [00:10:00] | sphing: | i only have /dev/lircd |
| [00:10:00] | MrSpiffy: | yeah sphing, use an adesso infra red keyboard with pointer :) |
| [00:10:00] | sphing: | MrSpiffy: can't |
| [00:11:00] | MrSpiffy: | joking really |
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| [00:12:00] | ExElNeT: | hi. is there a way to validate the videodatabase on every startup of the frontend? |
| [00:12:00] | kjp_: | hmm anyone ever see the live tv module refuse to let you change channels ? |
| [00:12:00] | kormoc: | kjp_, your tuner module isn't correct |
| [00:12:00] | kormoc: | ExElNeT, nopers |
| [00:13:00] | kjp_: | kormoc: ? |
| [00:13:00] | MrSpiffy: | kjp_, yep happened to me once |
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| [00:13:00] | jonK: | do ou need /dev/lirc? |
| [00:13:00] | kormoc: | kjp_, your tuner.ko module isn't working correctly, it's a part of ivtv or your kernel sources. |
| [00:13:00] | kjp: | kormoc: how does one go about fixing that ? |
| [00:13:00] | MrSpiffy: | kjp, I did a hard reboot on the backend and it came back to life |
| [00:13:00] | kormoc: | kjp, depends on what's wrong, what card is it? |
| [00:13:00] | kjp: | kormoc: Hauppauge PVR-250 |
| [00:14:00] | kjp: | (anyone know where I can get a replacement dongle for the ir remote?) |
| [00:14:00] | ExElNeT: | kormoc: ;/ |
| [00:14:00] | kormoc: | kjp, what ivtv version? |
| [00:14:00] | jonK: | kjp i wrote hauppage customer service and they sent me one without charge |
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| [00:15:00] | kjp: | kormoc: looks like ivtv-0.2.0-rc3j |
| [00:15:00] | ExElNeT: | kormoc: i just found an option to display the files directly ... thats nice |
| [00:15:00] | kjp: | jonK: email or letter or ?? |
| [00:16:00] | kormoc: | kjp, rmmod tuner, modprobe tuner might do the trick |
| [00:16:00] | kormoc: | ExElNeT, ooh? |
| [00:16:00] | kjp: | kormoc: interesting. it's recoding now lets see if it's recording the right channel. can I play something thats currently recording ? |
| [00:16:00] | kormoc: | yes |
| [00:17:00] | kormoc: | if it doesn't change channel in live tv, it won't in recorded tv |
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| [00:21:00] | kjp: | kormoc: so I see |
| [00:21:00] | kjp: | kormoc: I can't remove tuner |
| [00:21:00] | kormoc: | you need to stop mythbackend first |
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| [00:22:00] | kjp: | kormoc: half a step ahead of you |
| [00:23:00] | kjp: | just reloaded tuner, and the backend |
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| [00:25:00] | kjp: | kormoc: no dice still won't let me change channels |
| [00:26:00] | kormoc: | kjp, check your dmesg, make sure the cards being detected correctly, you may have to tell it which tuner is your card's |
| [00:27:00] | kjp: | kormoc: is there a db of tuners / cards ? |
| [00:27:00] | kjp: | ie how do I know which tuner to force? |
| [00:27:00] | kjp: | it says quite clearly |
| [00:27:00] | kjp: | tuner 1–0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0) |
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| [00:31:00] | kormoc: | kjp, there is in your kernel source code documents, look for tuners.txt or similar |
| [00:31:00] | kjp: | ok. |
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| [00:31:00] | kormoc: | as for which one of the list, I donno, maybe someone else can help you there |
| [00:31:00] | jonK: | kjp sent email to general, customer service email |
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| [00:45:00] | kjp: | it looks like v4l2 |
| [00:45:00] | kjp: | and ivtv both provide tuner and tveeprom modules |
| [00:45:00] | kjp: | and that v4l2's are the ones in use at the moment. anyone know a cute trick to force modprobe to use the ivtv modules? |
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| [00:50:00] | lotia: | folks is there a guide for getting station icons working? |
| [00:50:00] | lotia: | my program guide source is zap2it |
| [00:51:00] | kjp: | lotia, I saw one on the faq |
| [00:51:00] | lotia: | thanks kjp |
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| [00:53:00] | lotia: | kjp were you referring to the faq listed in the topic of this channel? |
| [00:54:00] | kormoc: | kjp, ivtv 3.x comes with a tuner.ko module for the pvr 150/500, it's not to be used with the 250/350's |
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| [00:54:00] | LedHed: | hello all |
| [00:54:00] | kjp: | kormoc: well humph |
| [00:54:00] | lotia: | kjp: if you modprobe tveeprom and follow it up with ivtv, that should do thetrick for you |
| [00:54:00] | kormoc: | kjp, it's a expernmental tuner.ko, and will be merged into the kernel's tuner.ko when it's stable. |
| [00:55:00] | lotia: | i'm using 0.3.7f i believe and i don't need any options |
| [00:55:00] | LedHed: | kjp whats the prob? |
| [00:55:00] | kjp: | kormoc: I linked (ln -s) the v4l2 tuner.ko and tveeprom.ko to the ivtv ones and they loaded fine. |
| [00:55:00] | ** kormoc raises an eyebrow ** | |
| [00:55:00] | kjp: | it says it wants to use tuner type 2, but it's already set at 39 |
| [00:55:00] | kormoc: | it's not that it won't work, it's just it's not designed to be done that way. |
| [00:56:00] | kjp: | ledhed, can't change channel |
| [00:56:00] | LedHed: | kjp, what distro? |
| [00:56:00] | lotia: | what card kjp |
| [00:56:00] | kjp: | card is a pvr-250 |
| [00:56:00] | kjp: | ledhed latest knoppmyth (though i've already updated the core stuff against debian) |
| [00:56:00] | LedHed: | kjp, sounds like mythbackend is loading before IVTV |
| [00:57:00] | kjp: | LedHed: I can (and have) forced ivtv to load (modprobe ivtv) and then started the backend |
| [00:58:00] | LedHed: | and it still wont change channels? |
| [00:58:00] | kormoc: | nope, cause for some reason the tuner module is using the wrong tuner type |
| [00:58:00] | LedHed: | force it |
| [00:58:00] | LedHed: | tunner type I mean |
| [00:58:00] | kormoc: | to what? |
| [00:58:00] | LedHed: | type 1 |
| [00:59:00] | kormoc: | type 1 didn't work, the kernel's tuner.ko autodetected it as 1 |
| [01:00:00] | lotia: | in case anyone else is wondering about channel icons, the answer may be at http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/tips.php |
| [01:00:00] | lotia: | bye all |
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| [01:00:00] | LedHed: | later |
| [01:01:00] | kjp: | LedHed: how do you suggest i force it? and to what? since type one didn't work? |
| [01:01:00] | kjp: | now though it says this |
| [01:02:00] | kjp: | tveeprom: tuner = Philips FI1236 MK2 (idx = 10, type = 2) |
| [01:02:00] | LedHed: | did you try -1 |
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| [01:03:00] | kjp: | ledhed how do I force it ? |
| [01:03:00] | LedHed: | anyone know what the max cable length for a serial LIRC cable is? |
| [01:03:00] | LedHed: | options ivtv tuner=-1 |
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| [01:04:00] | LedHed: | -1 is autodetect. 1 is pvr-250, 2 is m179 |
| [01:05:00] | kjp: | LedHed: Lets back up. I'm "modprobe ivtv" and that's reporting what i'm about to throw up on pastebin |
| [01:05:00] | LedHed: | put that option in the modprobe.conf |
| [01:05:00] | kjp: | http://pastebin.ca/20919 |
| [01:05:00] | LedHed: | # ivtv modules setup |
| [01:05:00] | LedHed: | alias char-major-81 videodev |
| [01:05:00] | LedHed: | alias char-major-81–0 ivtv |
| [01:05:00] | LedHed: | options ivtv tuner=1 |
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| [01:07:00] | kjp: | LedHed: except that ivtv doesn't have a section in modprobe.conf |
| [01:07:00] | LedHed: | it should |
| [01:07:00] | kjp: | I assume you mean modules.conf |
| [01:08:00] | kjp: | root@Aimee:/etc# grep ivtv *.conf |
| [01:08:00] | kjp: | root@Aimee:/etc# |
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| [01:10:00] | sphing: | the lirc module isnt making the device node in /dev |
| [01:10:00] | sphing: | anyone know why |
| [01:11:00] | LedHed: | kjp, modules.conf exists in 2.4 kernels. modprobe.conf for 2.6 kernels |
| [01:11:00] | LedHed: | what kernel is KnopMyth running |
| [01:13:00] | kjp: | 2.6.11.9-ch2–2 |
| [01:13:00] | kjp: | damn there is no modprobe.conf |
| [01:13:00] | LedHed: | then it should be using modprobe.conf |
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| [01:16:00] | kjp: | LedHed: I know. there just isn't a modprobe.conf. dangit. looks like I get to start from scratch |
| [01:16:00] | LedHed: | :) sucks |
| [01:17:00] | kjp: | Where else would it be picking up this information? |
| [01:17:00] | kjp: | it clearly is |
| [01:17:00] | kjp: | http://pastebin.ca/20919 |
| [01:17:00] | kjp: | thats the dmesg output of the card init |
| [01:17:00] | fatmatt: | hmm, do 2.6 kernels use modprobe.conf or modules.conf? |
| [01:17:00] | LedHed: | all looks good there |
| [01:18:00] | kjp: | LedHed: but all i get is colorful static |
| [01:18:00] | kjp: | I used to at least get #3 |
| [01:18:00] | LedHed: | fatmatt, I'm no linux Guru, but I know Fedora 2,3,4 use modprobe.conf |
| [01:18:00] | LedHed: | kjp, do you have the tunner set to the right input? |
| [01:19:00] | kjp: | yes. |
| [01:19:00] | LedHed: | you sure? |
| [01:19:00] | kjp: | it *was* working just only with channel 3 |
| [01:19:00] | kjp: | now I get nothing. |
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| [01:19:00] | kjp: | the txt overlay comes up and shows me changing channels |
| [01:19:00] | kjp: | just nothing there but stattic |
| [01:19:00] | LedHed: | is the coax cable plugged in? |
| [01:20:00] | kjp: | LedHed: yep |
| [01:20:00] | LedHed: | dont know what else to tell you bud... |
| [01:20:00] | fatmatt: | I don't have one of those.... |
| [01:20:00] | LedHed: | fatmatt, one of what? |
| [01:21:00] | kjp: | LedHed: it's clear from the dmesg output that it's being forced as tuner 39, but detected as tuner 2 |
| [01:21:00] | kjp: | I can't find out where it's getting the 39 |
| [01:21:00] | kjp: | I think thats the problem. do you have any idea where it could be getting the 39 from ? |
| [01:21:00] | LedHed: | I dont think the 2 coralate |
| [01:21:00] | kjp: | how dies |
| [01:22:00] | kjp: | tuner: type set to 39 (LG NTSC (newer TAPC series)) by insmod option |
| [01:22:00] | kjp: | and |
| [01:22:00] | kjp: | ivtv: Setting Tuner 2 |
| [01:22:00] | kjp: | tuner: type already set to 39, ignoring request for 2 |
| [01:22:00] | kjp: | NOT correlate ? |
| [01:22:00] | LedHed: | let me loog at my dmesg. I have pvr-250 also |
| [01:23:00] | kormoc: | kjp, you sure in /etc there's no palce with tuner=39? |
| [01:24:00] | kjp: | yes |
| [01:24:00] | fatmatt: | LedHed: modprobe.conf, using debian.. I've got a modprobe.d directory |
| [01:24:00] | kjp: | root@Aimee:/etc# grep -R tuner=39 * |
| [01:24:00] | LedHed: | I dont know deb |
| [01:25:00] | kormoc: | <kjp> tuner: type set to 39 (LG NTSC (newer TAPC series)) by insmod option |
| [01:25:00] | kormoc: | that says there's something setting that |
| [01:25:00] | kjp: | kormoc: Yeah i know |
| [01:25:00] | kjp: | whats driving me crazy is I can't figure out WHAT |
| [01:25:00] | kormoc: | what bout greping for just 39? |
| [01:25:00] | kormoc: | and is -R the same as -r? |
| [01:25:00] | LedHed: | kjp, my tunners are detected as 8, but they still work if I set them to 1 |
| [01:26:00] | kjp: | kormoc: I believe so yes. |
| [01:28:00] | LedHed: | kjp, http://pastebin.com/344528 my dmesg, for your comparison |
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| [01:29:00] | kjp: | sigh, lets try this. |
| [01:30:00] | LedHed: | kjp, keep in mind that dmesg is for my backend with 3x pvr-250. thats why everything is listed 3 times.... |
| [01:30:00] | kjp: | I understand |
| [01:30:00] | kjp: | I 've not even looked at it yet. |
| [01:30:00] | kjp: | you realize that multiple tuner chips are used on the same card model right ? |
| [01:31:00] | LedHed: | kjp, Are you sure you dont have a pvr-150? |
| [01:31:00] | LedHed: | type 39 = 150 |
| [01:32:00] | kjp: | thats why I think somethings rather BORKED in the damn config files |
| [01:32:00] | kjp: | and yes, I'm not a fracking moron |
| [01:32:00] | kjp: | I know it's pvr-250 |
| [01:32:00] | kjp: | so does the computer, as it's detected by system as a 250. |
| [01:32:00] | LedHed: | IVTV will detect a pvr-150 as a pvr-250 |
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| [01:33:00] | kjp: | the card is clearly labeled as a 250 |
| [01:33:00] | kjp: | ever met a 150 with a remote? |
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| [01:34:00] | LedHed: | Sorry I cant help you. Good luck |
| [01:34:00] | kjp: | and... it *was* working just fine on channel 3 before I started messing with the tunner stuff |
| [01:34:00] | kormoc: | kjp, yeah,lots o 150's have remotes |
| [01:34:00] | LedHed: | so restore the old configs.... you did keep a copy of the originals right? |
| [01:35:00] | LedHed: | kjp, http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/ivtv/devel/ look here..... |
| [01:36:00] | kjp: | LedHed: you condescending ass. of course. |
| [01:37:00] | LedHed: | WTF? I'm trying to help you and you call me an ass? |
| [01:37:00] | kjp: | dude when i help people i don't go arround asking if they've kept originals |
| [01:37:00] | kormoc: | let's keep it civil. |
| [01:38:00] | LedHed: | dude, if you have something in a working state its always a good idea to keep originals, I do... Guess you dont; O Fucking well pal... have fun |
| [01:38:00] | kormoc: | kjp, LedHed is a valued member of this channel, and has helped a lot of people out, you could be a little more respectful of the time he put in to try to help you. |
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| [01:38:00] | kormoc: | LedHed, in all honestly, it did come across as slightly... well, with a bite to it. |
| [01:38:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
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| [01:39:00] | kjp: | LedHed: hey turns out all your second guessing of my hardware was pointless |
| [01:39:00] | kjp: | LedHed: Works fine now |
| [01:40:00] | kjp: | I'm almost tempted to tell you what was wrong |
| [01:40:00] | kjp: | but that'd be too easy. |
| [01:40:00] | kormoc: | ... |
| [01:40:00] | kjp: | kormoc: your right. Thanks for your time ledhed. |
| [01:40:00] | LedHed: | Glad I wasted my time trying to help you. Next time someone asks I'll just not bother and save us both some time..... |
| [01:41:00] | kjp: | kormoc: I'm sorry being treated like a 2 year old and asked if i'm sure that the card i bought, put in, etc is really the model X i say it is? |
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| [01:41:00] | kormoc: | kjp, you wouldn't beleive the number of people who don't/// |
| [01:41:00] | LedHed: | :) |
| [01:41:00] | kjp: | kormoc: Yes... Yes I would. but ask once. not 3x |
| [01:42:00] | butabi: | can i tell the backend via console to change the channel? |
| [01:42:00] | kjp: | kormoc: Forcing the card the *one* time I did to a different tuner type put the tuner chip in whackout mode. |
| [01:42:00] | LedHed: | I asked you once. and posted that IVTV will recognize a 150 as a 250 type 39. which yours is..... |
| [01:42:00] | kjp: | kormoc: I decided to reboot, during shutdown it PANIC'd the kernel with a i2c readout |
| [01:42:00] | LedHed: | it was a valid question. |
| [01:43:00] | kormoc: | kjp, that's not normal. |
| [01:43:00] | kjp: | kormoc: a re-init of the pci bus (on reboot) reset it, and now it's working quite fine. |
| [01:43:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [01:43:00] | kjp: | LedHed: No, see this is what gets me. |
| [01:43:00] | kjp: | LedHed: you didn't read what I posted. |
| [01:43:00] | LedHed: | I dont give a shit. |
| [01:43:00] | kjp: | LedHed: it was being FORCED into mode 39 |
| [01:43:00] | kjp: | LedHed: but detected as type 2 |
| [01:44:00] | LedHed: | anain I dont give a shit. |
| [01:44:00] | Chutt: | there's a lot of people that shouldn't be attempting to help people. |
| [01:44:00] | LedHed: | again |
| [01:44:00] | butabi: | how can i tune the backend to another channel? |
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| [01:44:00] | kjp: | and since it had already been forced into type 39, it couldn't switch to type 2 |
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| [01:44:00] | LedHed: | butabi, be more specific |
| [01:44:00] | kjp: | LedHed: hey look man, I'm just trying to give you pointers on helping people. Try READING what they say /post |
| [01:45:00] | LedHed: | I'll just stop helping you..... Its easier |
| [01:45:00] | kjp: | kormoc: yeah the panic has me a bit worried, but aside from jerky playback (what can I expect, EPIA Nehemiah!) |
| [01:45:00] | butabi: | my backend is struggling with a channel, i cant use frontend to change the channel, i dont want to do mythtv-setup to edit the starting channel, i want the backend to tune to another channel ... thats all |
| [01:45:00] | kjp: | kormoc: it seems to be working find. |
| [01:45:00] | LedHed: | or better yet, before I offer help, I'll ask them how they would like my help served to them.... |
| [01:46:00] | kjp: | LedHed: see this is whats wrong with IRC as help. you irc people get arrogant, and can't take criticism. |
| [01:46:00] | LedHed: | me arrogant. hell, I'm a myth n00b for over a year now.. I know squat about this stuff. |
| [01:46:00] | kormoc: | can we just drop it? |
| [01:48:00] | LedHed: | Outtie, I dont need this crap. Later |
| [01:48:00] | kjp: | butabi, when you say you can't change channels in the frontend describe what happens |
| [01:48:00] | kormoc: | see ya LedHed |
| [01:48:00] | LedHed: | c-ya |
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| [01:48:00] | kjp: | kormoc: I suppose you |
| [01:48:00] | kjp: | 'll blame me for that eh? |
| [01:49:00] | kormoc: | ... |
| [01:49:00] | butabi: | kjp: although my problem is solved (or at least of another nature as i just found out), do you still want to know what i mean initially? |
| [01:49:00] | kjp: | yup |
| [01:49:00] | butabi: | hehe, what a boy :) |
| [01:49:00] | butabi: | okay ... |
| [01:51:00] | butabi: | im using a dvb card, in mythtv-setup you give it a starting channel wenn you connect your card to your source, ya know ... when starting the backend, it automatically tunes to that channel, if there is no such channel or it is corrupt or whatever, frontend livetv will not even work (so you cant change the channel from there) |
| [01:52:00] | butabi: | thats what i meant basically |
| [01:52:00] | butabi: | but now ive got a different problem :) |
| [01:52:00] | butabi: | so nevermind |
| [01:53:00] | kjp: | ok. |
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| [01:54:00] | butabi: | my new problem is that it says "DVB#0 Error – Tuning for channel #3 failed." (but it worked until 10 minutes ago, also this '#' looks strange) |
| [01:55:00] | LedHed: | kjp, try this. It may help you it mey not.... /usr/lib/ivtv/ptune-ui.pl & mplayer -vo xv /dev/video0 |
| [01:55:00] | LedHed: | ptune-ui.pl is a GUI interface that will allow you to change channels and inputs on the card outside of myth |
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| [01:58:00] | LedHed: | anyone know if you can run a composite video signal across CoAx? Not RF modulation, just feed the Composite signal thrue a CoAx wire? |
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| [02:01:00] | butabi: | what sense would that make? do you have a device with coax composite in/out ? |
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| [02:01:00] | butabi: | or just too many coax cables :) |
| [02:02:00] | LedHed: | I have a coax cable running from my server closet to each bedroom. I want to use the tv-out on a card in the closet to feed a tv in my bedroom. But I dont want to run another cable. so I was going to just put some RCA ends on the coax cable that already exists |
| [02:04:00] | k-man_: | hey, whats a good controller for snes type games? |
| [02:04:00] | k-man_: | that works with linux of course |
| [02:05:00] | LedHed: | I've used the Logitech Wingman rumble pad. But I think its been disontinued. |
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| [02:06:00] | telseth: | i got this cheap saitek p880 dual analog from fry's and it does the trick for nes / snes |
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| [02:09:00] | funkyelf: | anyone here know of a way to use Myth with DirectTV? Like having an IR transmitter to change the channel on the satellite box for you? |
| [02:09:00] | LedHed: | like an IR Blaster? |
| [02:09:00] | funkyelf: | is that what they're called? |
| [02:09:00] | telseth: | yeah, 12 bucks gets you one ... or you can build your own |
| [02:09:00] | LedHed: | Look up LIRC |
| [02:09:00] | funkyelf: | ...is it something that myth already supports? |
| [02:09:00] | LedHed: | there is TONS of info |
| [02:10:00] | funkyelf: | i thought LIRC was to recieve IR from other universal remotes, not send out the signals |
| [02:10:00] | LedHed: | ya, myth supports it |
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| [02:10:00] | LedHed: | transmit too |
| [02:11:00] | LedHed: | http://losdos.dyndns.org:8080/public/mythtv-i . . . ed_LIRC.html |
| [02:11:00] | LedHed: | google is a wonderful thing |
| [02:11:00] | funkyelf: | I don't have DirectTV...I have cable, but someone I work with was wanting to build one along with me so we could help each other but he has DirectTV |
| [02:11:00] | telseth: | anyone know why mythfrontend crashes sometimes when leaving a recording or live-tv mode? (fc4 myth install from apt 1 pvr-350 and 1 old bttv card) I set up a button on my remote to restart the frontend...but its kinda annoying (happens bout 1nce a day) |
| [02:12:00] | butabi: | are recordings in .nuv format? |
| [02:12:00] | telseth: | yup |
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| [02:12:00] | LedHed: | launch the frontend and have it log. when it crashes look in the log it created |
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| [02:13:00] | LedHed: | funkyelf, did you check out that site? |
| [02:14:00] | LedHed: | funkyelf, you can buy the IR Blaster for $15 here... http://www.irblaster.info/ |
| [02:15:00] | butabi: | are there any .nuv to .useful converters available? :) |
| [02:16:00] | LedHed: | butabi, what are you using as a capture device? |
| [02:16:00] | butabi: | dvb card |
| [02:16:00] | LedHed: | is that Mpeg? |
| [02:16:00] | telseth: | nuvexport rocks to export nuv to anything |
| [02:17:00] | butabi: | mpeg2 |
| [02:17:00] | LedHed: | then rust rename the .nuv extension to .mpg and it will work.... |
| [02:17:00] | LedHed: | just |
| [02:17:00] | telseth: | cept i have had to always put no on sound normalization otherwise it hangs |
| [02:17:00] | butabi: | ok thx |
| [02:17:00] | LedHed: | for mpeg streams .nuv is just a wrapper |
| [02:18:00] | telseth: | thats only if you have a pvr-x50 card i thought |
| [02:18:00] | LedHed: | I think it applies to all mpeg recordings. I could be wrong |
| [02:18:00] | telseth: | eh, me too |
| [02:18:00] | LedHed: | its easy to test. give it a shot.... |
| [02:19:00] | LedHed: | I dont have a dvb card so I cant say for sure.... |
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| [03:18:00] | purplefrog: | I'm considering turning an Xbox into a dedicated mythfrontend (no xbox games). Are there any non-soldering options besides the mechassault trick? |
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| [03:30:00] | TheWhtRab: | hey |
| [03:30:00] | TheWhtRab: | naybody here |
| [03:31:00] | purplefrog: | plenty, but I think they're all asleep. |
| [03:31:00] | telseth: | snore |
| [03:31:00] | TheWhtRab: | lol |
| [03:31:00] | TheWhtRab: | what u guys think about the hauppauge 500 ce |
| [03:32:00] | telseth: | never used it... |
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| [03:32:00] | TheWhtRab: | anybody else |
| [03:33:00] | purplefrog: | nope. I just have a 250. |
| [03:33:00] | telseth: | i really like my 350 |
| [03:34:00] | TheWhtRab: | r the 350 and 500 same video quality |
| [03:34:00] | TheWhtRab: | if so how is the 350 quality |
| [03:34:00] | burly: | they should be the same tuners and encoders, its just that the 500 has two of them |
| [03:34:00] | TheWhtRab: | k |
| [03:34:00] | TheWhtRab: | how sthe quality on the 350 |
| [03:35:00] | TheWhtRab: | im looking for a card with great quality |
| [03:35:00] | burly: | the 350 has FM doesn't it? |
| [03:36:00] | burly: | otherwise its basically the same as a PVR-150 |
| [03:36:00] | djperegrine: | whenever I try to stream from the card I get ivtv warning:i2c clent addr: 0x44 not found for command 0x401c6466 |
| [03:36:00] | TheWhtRab: | do they come with remotes |
| [03:36:00] | djperegrine: | it worked before now it says that and I get a blank screen |
| [03:36:00] | burly: | TheWhtRab: like i said it should be the same as the 350 or even the 150. That said, I have several friends that use PVR-150s and have had great success with them |
| [03:36:00] | telseth: | yeah, never used the fm though |
| [03:36:00] | burly: | they look good and linux support is good |
| [03:36:00] | purplefrog: | I think the best quality is from cards like Optibase, but they cost like $10k I think. I'm not sure if anyone has bothered to integrate one with MythTV. |
| [03:37:00] | telseth: | the 350 has mpeg decoding and a remote also |
| [03:37:00] | TheWhtRab: | lol |
| [03:37:00] | burly: | yeah it has decoding |
| [03:37:00] | burly: | the 150 has the remote also though |
| [03:37:00] | telseth: | oh didnt know that :) |
| [03:37:00] | burly: | the 500 doesn't have the IRblaster I don't think |
| [03:38:00] | TheWhtRab: | whats that |
| [03:38:00] | TheWhtRab: | i need a remote lol |
| [03:39:00] | burly: | the IRblaster allows you to control the cable/satellite box |
| [03:39:00] | burly: | so you can change the channel on the digital source |
| [03:39:00] | TheWhtRab: | ok |
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| [03:47:00] | goodwill: | hmm |
| [03:47:00] | telseth: | hmm what |
| [03:47:00] | telseth: | ? |
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| [04:35:00] | jase: | Does anyone have a site where the compatible tv tuner cards are listed? |
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| [04:48:00] | rjune: | xris: you're the one that did the HOWTO on setting up the mythbox to act as a remote for Dish network tuners right? |
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| [05:01:00] | Netslayer: | help: "2005-08–23 20:01:09.491 SUPPRESSED recording 'Family Guy' on channel 1296 on cardid 1, sourceid 1. Only 0 Megs of disk space available." |
| [05:01:00] | Netslayer: | /dev/md0 328G 162G 167G 50% /mnt/raid |
| [05:02:00] | Netslayer: | ideas? |
| [05:02:00] | Agrajag-: | /mnt/raid is where myth's recordings are right? |
| [05:02:00] | Netslayer: | yup |
| [05:03:00] | Netslayer: | it's 2 160 drives... so it might be a bug looking at the individual drive or something.. |
| [05:03:00] | Netslayer: | i've gone over 160 before though |
| [05:05:00] | sphing: | Agrajag-: they software raided? |
| [05:05:00] | Netslayer: | got it |
| [05:06:00] | Netslayer: | it's a really bad error message |
| [05:06:00] | Agrajag-: | what was it? |
| [05:06:00] | Netslayer: | my main server lost nfs last night (my oops) until today..remote backends started w/o nfs and the master backend having no backends able to write to the drive on it told me it was full |
| [05:07:00] | ** Netslayer got the criticism from his nancy grace watching parents ** | |
| [05:07:00] | ** Netslayer gets back to his final ** | |
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| [05:09:00] | MrProper_: | anyone here using DVB? |
| [05:10:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah |
| [05:10:00] | MrProper_: | Agrajag-: how long does it take to switch between digital channels? |
| [05:11:00] | MrProper_: | as in the delay |
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| [05:13:00] | Agrajag-: | 1 or 2 seconds i guess |
| [05:13:00] | MrProper_: | Agrajag-: im just trying to work out why mine takes around 4 seconds to do a channel change using DVB |
| [05:14:00] | Agrajag-: | have you tried other apps? |
| [05:14:00] | fangji: | help,who sucssed install Leadtek winfast 2000XP expert, I meed some problem |
| [05:14:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah i have one of them |
| [05:15:00] | Agrajag-: | bttv1: detected: Leadtek WinFast TV 2000 [card=34], PCI subsystem ID is 107d:6606 |
| [05:15:00] | Agrajag-: | bttv1: using: Leadtek WinFast 2000/ WinFast 2000 XP [card=34,autodetected] |
| [05:15:00] | fangji: | I can't use remote controll crectly |
| [05:16:00] | Agrajag-: | use lirc_gpio |
| [05:18:00] | fangji: | I dmesg get winfast 2000xp expert [card5,auto detected]? |
| [05:18:00] | fangji: | if I need change to card 34? |
| [05:18:00] | Agrajag-: | does the card work? can you watch tv? |
| [05:19:00] | fangji: | I have't get any tv channel in mythtv |
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| [05:19:00] | Agrajag-: | how about just with tvtime or mplayer or something? |
| [05:19:00] | fangji: | I use gentoo, and I can't find lirc_gpio to load |
| [05:20:00] | Agrajag-: | card=5 – Diamond DTV2000 <-- that's what my CARDLIST.bttv says. so for you that doesn't look right |
| [05:20:00] | Agrajag-: | well i dont use gentoo because it sucks, but you need to install lirc |
| [05:21:00] | xris: | rjune: no, I didn't write it. just use it. |
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| [05:24:00] | fangji: | I am not try other tvplayer, how to change card from 5 to 34 |
| [05:24:00] | Agrajag-: | pass card=34 with modprobe |
| [05:25:00] | rjune: | xris: you got the URL handy |
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| [05:26:00] | fangji: | when i dmesg I get "cx88[0]:subsystem:107d:6611, board:Leadtek Winfast 2000XP Expert [card=5,auto detected]]" |
| [05:27:00] | Agrajag-: | oh so you're not using bttv |
| [05:27:00] | Agrajag-: | ok i dunno then your card must be different.. mine is bttv based |
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| [05:27:00] | abarbaccia: | hey all – can someone explain deinterlaced playback – and why it looks good on my regular TV? |
| [05:28:00] | xris: | rjune: google for "lirc losdos mythtv" |
| [05:28:00] | MrProper_: | fangji: do you have 2 tuner cards?, im curious as to why BTTV and cxx are being picked up |
| [05:28:00] | rjune: | xris: that'll do, thanks |
| [05:28:00] | fangji: | I only one card buy from China |
| [05:28:00] | MrProper_: | abarbaccia: deinterlaced will not be good for you if your tv is interlaced |
| [05:29:00] | MrProper_: | abarbaccia: deinterlaced would look better on a monitor/screen that is not interlaced |
| [05:29:00] | fangji: | It's cx2388x |
| [05:29:00] | MrProper_: | fangji: what distro? |
| [05:29:00] | Agrajag-: | abarbaccia: afaik, tv's expect interlaced input? |
| [05:30:00] | fangji: | MrProper ? |
| [05:30:00] | MrProper_: | Agrajag-: unless your using HDTV which uses progressive scan, ie any of the 520p 720p 960p 1080p etc |
| [05:30:00] | MrProper_: | fangji: what version of linux are you using |
| [05:30:00] | Agrajag-: | he's using gentoo |
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| [05:31:00] | fangji: | gentoo 2005.0 kernel 2.6.12-gentoo-r9 |
| [05:31:00] | MrProper_: | fangji: can you use the card in any other program? xine? tvtime? |
| [05:32:00] | fangji: | I didn't try, how to use by xine? |
| [05:32:00] | MrProper_: | fangji: have you got tzap? |
| [05:33:00] | Agrajag-: | err isn't tzap for dvb-t cards? |
| [05:33:00] | fangji: | no, what tzap? |
| [05:34:00] | ** MrProper_ slaps head ** | |
| [05:35:00] | MrProper_: | type emerge tvtime |
| [05:37:00] | fangji: | ok, I have another problem in remote control, when i press "2" in control, I find in mythtv is "up" |
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| [05:37:00] | fangji: | no "2" is down "8" is up |
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| [05:38:00] | fangji: | no "2" is down "8" is up "4" is left and "6" is right |
| [05:38:00] | fangji: | how to crrect |
| [05:40:00] | abarbaccia: | Agrajag-, sorry – i was afk – but how do i know if my TV is expecting interlaced or deinterlaced? |
| [05:41:00] | goodwill: | kie Matrox is crap |
| [05:41:00] | fangji: | how to use tvtime? |
| [05:41:00] | Krazylegz: | Where's Beirdo. |
| [05:43:00] | abarbaccia: | anybody can explain deinterlaced playback to me |
| [05:43:00] | abarbaccia: | and why bob deinterlacing makes my video look smooth and clear on my regualr TV but no interlacing looks terrible |
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| [05:45:00] | abarbaccia: | ?? |
| [05:45:00] | robbie__: | afternoons |
| [05:45:00] | robbie__: | anyone got a nice import script for neatly importing pictures in mythgallery ? |
| [05:50:00] | fangji: | who know how to set tvtime, I run "tvtime" get "Tuner refuses to tell us the current frequency" |
| [05:50:00] | xris: | fangji: wrong channel |
| [05:51:00] | fangji: | how to change tvtime config, |
| [05:52:00] | fangji: | the I can't use keyboard to move in setup menu |
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| [06:17:00] | goodwill: | Krazylegz: ping |
| [06:17:00] | Krazylegz: | ping! |
| [06:17:00] | Krazylegz: | Pong? |
| [06:17:00] | xris: | has anyone ever successfully used nuvexport (or anything else) to encode an HD recording? |
| [06:18:00] | goodwill: | Krazylegz: whats your tv out card? |
| [06:18:00] | Krazylegz: | ATI 9100 chipset built-in to the motherboard on my Pundit-R. |
| [06:19:00] | goodwill: | Krazylegz: laptop? |
| [06:19:00] | Krazylegz: | No. |
| [06:20:00] | Krazylegz: | goodwill: http://usa.asus.com/products/desktop/pundit-r/overview.htm |
| [06:20:00] | Cardoe: | xris: anyone successfully used nuvexport? ;) |
| [06:20:00] | Cardoe: | j/k |
| [06:20:00] | Cardoe: | Google Talk is official now |
| [06:21:00] | xris: | Cardoe: interesting.. jabber? |
| [06:21:00] | Cardoe: | yep |
| [06:21:00] | Agrajag-: | with voip too |
| [06:21:00] | Cardoe: | been signed onto it for like 4 hrs via Gaim |
| [06:21:00] | Cardoe: | yeah but not SIP yet |
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| [06:21:00] | fatmatt: | anyone written a gateway to let it work with other jabber servers? |
| [06:21:00] | Cardoe: | it's using some custom XMPP commands |
| [06:21:00] | Cardoe: | fatmatt: it's not that really |
| [06:22:00] | Cardoe: | the issue is the DNS SRV isn't published |
| [06:22:00] | Cardoe: | so username@gmail.com is not pointing to talk.google.com properly |
| [06:22:00] | fatmatt: | ahh, okay |
| [06:22:00] | Cardoe: | it's a quick fix if they wanted to |
| [06:22:00] | Cardoe: | but they obviously don't |
| [06:22:00] | xris: | fatmatt: um, if it's jabber, it should work. |
| [06:22:00] | Cardoe: | since they made a note of it |
| [06:22:00] | xris: | oh |
| [06:22:00] | xris: | so they broke the standard. |
| [06:22:00] | xris: | that's really lame |
| [06:23:00] | Cardoe: | not really |
| [06:23:00] | Cardoe: | they said in time they'll make it work |
| [06:23:00] | fatmatt: | they seem to be a bit more open than ms in general, so you never know |
| [06:23:00] | Cardoe: | I mean they even published their XMPP add-ons for VOIP |
| [06:25:00] | Cardoe: | would not be surprised if there was an asterisk connector in like 2 days |
| [06:25:00] | SlicerDicer--: | hi Cardoe |
| [06:25:00] | SlicerDicer--: | question for ya if you have time |
| [06:25:00] | SlicerDicer--: | been meaning to speak with ya |
| [06:25:00] | Cardoe: | sure |
| [06:25:00] | SlicerDicer-- is now known as SlicerDicer- | |
| [06:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I have been using x86 version of mythfrontend for my tv |
| [06:26:00] | Cardoe: | k |
| [06:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it works great cept for the fact that it will randomly crash |
| [06:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | not during shows just when I go to load them |
| [06:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | every other launch it will crash |
| [06:26:00] | Cardoe: | the entire frontend? |
| [06:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah |
| [06:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | backend is fine just frontend goes bang |
| [06:27:00] | Cardoe: | did you run it in gdb? |
| [06:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont know how to debug it :/ |
| [06:27:00] | xris: | damn, now I have SO many IM accounts... |
| [06:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hi xris |
| [06:27:00] | Cardoe: | xris: heh |
| [06:27:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: gdb mythfrontend |
| [06:27:00] | Cardoe: | run |
| [06:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xris, iChat? |
| [06:27:00] | Cardoe: | (on crash: bt) |
| [06:27:00] | xris: | SlicerDicer-: gaim |
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| [06:28:00] | xris: | 7 accounts, including freenode. |
| [06:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok Cardoe |
| [06:28:00] | Cardoe: | you use gaim for IRC? |
| [06:28:00] | xris: | plus a couple of random old ones I rarely use, and a handful of irc ones I use occasionally (irc.mozilla, etc) |
| [06:28:00] | xris: | Cardoe: yes. |
| [06:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ow |
| [06:28:00] | xris: | I like all of my chats to go in one place. |
| [06:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I dont use anything but IRC so hey |
| [06:28:00] | xris: | don't want to manage 2 separate windows for chatting. |
| [06:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I use xchat :) |
| [06:28:00] | xris: | SlicerDicer-: irc and aim for work |
| [06:29:00] | xris: | aim, msn, icq, yahoo and jabber for friends. |
| [06:29:00] | Krazylegz: | I use Gaim for IRC too. |
| [06:29:00] | xris: | nothing wrong with gaim for irc. esp. with the irchelper plugin |
| [06:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | xris, there was something I was wanting to ask you how hard it would be to put in mythfrontend but I cant remember |
| [06:29:00] | xris: | well, when it's not broken. |
| [06:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | bah |
| [06:29:00] | xris: | SlicerDicer-: keep in mind that ALL I use gaim for irc for is chatting. |
| [06:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | true xris |
| [06:30:00] | Krazylegz: | What else does IRC do? :-) |
| [06:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | umm... you dont want to know |
| [06:32:00] | Krazylegz: | "Bend over and we'll show you" was the expected response. |
| [06:32:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: ctcp, dcc |
| [06:33:00] | xris: | handy aliases |
| [06:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I tried to be nice bout it |
| [06:33:00] | xris: | string commands together.. (though that's clientside) |
| [06:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | bend over and we'll show ya "in a arnold voice" |
| [06:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [06:33:00] | adante: | bugger all those gui im clients.. bitlbee's where it's at :D |
| [06:35:00] | goodwill: | Krazylegz: does rca and vga ports work together? or only one or the othere? |
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| [06:35:00] | Krazylegz: | You can do both if you want. |
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| [06:36:00] | Krazylegz: | You can do dual-head, clone, or just one or the other. |
| [06:36:00] | fangji: | add LeadTek TV 2000XP card, what shold I add in kernel? |
| [06:37:00] | goodwill: | Krazylegz: I read a complain only one did at atime |
| [06:38:00] | Krazylegz: | goodwill: Huh? |
| [06:38:00] | goodwill: | Krazylegz: video and audio syncs ok? |
| [06:38:00] | goodwill: | Krazylegz: I reading reviews on it |
| [06:38:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, just fine. |
| [06:38:00] | Krazylegz: | xris doesn't like the Pundit-R because it uses ATI, but mine works fine with KnoppMyth so far. |
| [06:39:00] | goodwill: | hmm |
| [06:39:00] | Krazylegz: | You do have to jam the PVR-350 card in there, it doesn't quite fit. Doable, though. |
| [06:39:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: ati support in linux sucks, that's all.. it works ok, but not compared to other options. |
| [06:40:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: I wouldn't know. I just know that it works fine for me. |
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| [06:40:00] | goodwill: | xris: whats your tv out card? |
| [06:41:00] | xris: | goodwill: SiS cipset pundit |
| [06:42:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: My Pundit can beat up your Pundit. :-) |
| [06:44:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: afaik, mine was the first pundit ever used as a mythbox. nyah! |
| [06:44:00] | ** Krazylegz thinks of a good comeback ** | |
| [06:45:00] | goodwill: | Krazylegz: just say its ok, old man xris's pundit, lets take youto the nursing home |
| [06:45:00] | goodwill: | :) |
| [06:45:00] | xris: | heh |
| [06:46:00] | Krazylegz: | Sweet! I said what he said. :-) |
| [06:46:00] | xris: | as long as it works, is quiet, etc... |
| [06:47:00] | Krazylegz: | The nursing home or the Pundit? |
| [06:47:00] | xris: | either? |
| [06:47:00] | goodwill: | Krazylegz: no no |
| [06:47:00] | Krazylegz: | Maybe the xris should work and be quiet! |
| [06:47:00] | goodwill: | Krazylegz: quiet eh? thats what teh all say about the trouble makers |
| [06:48:00] | goodwill: | Krazylegz: :-P |
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| [06:49:00] | ** xris wonders if he should whip out the ol' +o and teach the young whipper snappers a lesson... ** | |
| [06:50:00] | Krazylegz: | I'll be good, I'll be good!! |
| [06:52:00] | goodwill: | Krazylegz: so support for Matrox 450/G550 is notoriously crappy |
| [06:52:00] | goodwill: | Krazylegz: G400 is ok, so I am stuck a bit |
| [06:52:00] | Krazylegz: | I figured as much. It's a pretty old card, isn't it? |
| [06:52:00] | goodwill: | G400 actually works, except its black and white |
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| [06:54:00] | Krazylegz: | Does the VGA on that G400 work okay? |
| [06:54:00] | Krazylegz: | Not that it would matter. |
| [06:55:00] | ** xris likes gnucash ** | |
| [06:55:00] | goodwill: | Krazylegz: yup |
| [06:55:00] | goodwill: | Krazylegz: but I tested the card on windows too and its color is off |
| [06:55:00] | Krazylegz: | gnucash is nice. |
| [06:56:00] | goodwill: | thought it has it |
| [06:56:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh, that's weird. |
| [06:56:00] | Krazylegz: | goodwill: Where are you? |
| [06:56:00] | goodwill: | Krazylegz: pardon? |
| [06:56:00] | Krazylegz: | goodwill: Geographically. |
| [06:56:00] | goodwill: | Cali |
| [06:57:00] | goodwill: | why? |
| [06:57:00] | Krazylegz: | Just wondering. |
| [06:57:00] | goodwill: | I still have use for the card :-P |
| [06:57:00] | goodwill: | s |
| [06:57:00] | goodwill: | you wanted one? |
| [06:57:00] | goodwill: | they are like 3–10 bucks on ebay :) |
| [06:58:00] | Krazylegz: | I'm kind of intrigued now, yeah. |
| [06:58:00] | goodwill: | I'll figure it out |
| [06:58:00] | Krazylegz: | I wanted to get one to see if I could get it working in Linux. :-) |
| [06:58:00] | goodwill: | I like the challange anyways |
| [06:59:00] | goodwill: | Krazylegz: I think the card is just weird...windows driver for it matrox official and it still does not work well |
| [06:59:00] | goodwill: | so it must be off |
| [06:59:00] | Krazylegz: | Maybe it's the card? |
| [06:59:00] | goodwill: | i tried different tv's and cables |
| [06:59:00] | goodwill: | it is teh card |
| [07:00:00] | goodwill: | mc |
| [07:00:00] | goodwill: | oops |
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| [07:23:00] | Krazylegz: | Hmm. Is there a module to play/browse Shoutcast streams in Myth? |
| [07:23:00] | Krazylegz: | That would rock. |
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| [07:24:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah, MythMusic patch. |
| [07:25:00] | Krazylegz: | Er, MythStream? |
| [07:25:00] | Krazylegz: | Sure. |
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| [07:33:00] | mchou: | wow, drilling holes in back of the case makes a SIGNIFICANT difference in cooling. |
| [07:34:00] | Krazylegz: | Now you know what to do when you've been out in the sun too long. :-) |
| [07:34:00] | goodwill: | does firefox run on mythtv? |
| [07:35:00] | mchou: | I'm rather pleased with my own handiwork, if I do say so myself :) |
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| [07:37:00] | travolta: | drilling air holes, lol |
| [07:37:00] | mchou: | travolta: just getting rid of the "grill" in the back of the case...... |
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| [07:38:00] | mchou: | been a significant cause of turbulence and noise..... |
| [07:40:00] | mchou: | I should have gotten a 3in hole saw instead of 3–1/8in one though..... |
| [07:40:00] | Krazylegz: | Heh, what did I say last night? :-) |
| [07:41:00] | Agrajag-: | what've you done? what's the 'grill' you got rid of? |
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| [07:42:00] | mchou: | Krazylegz: nah, 3–1/8 is fine if you only want one hole. :) |
| [07:42:00] | Krazylegz: | He had a hibachi on the back of his computer. Now it's cooler and quieter, but he can't barbeque while he works. |
| [07:42:00] | mchou: | 3in for 2 holes :) |
| [07:42:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah. |
| [07:42:00] | Agrajag-: | heh |
| [07:43:00] | mchou: | dropped my temps by around 4 degrees.... |
| [07:43:00] | telseth: | anyone have mythfrontend crash sometimes when leaving a recording or live-tv mode... i get this if i run a log ... *** glibc detected *** mythfrontedn: free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x091a74e8 *** |
| [07:43:00] | mchou: | and I get to run the fan at lower speeds too :) |
| [07:43:00] | telseth: | without the n after mythfrontend |
| [07:43:00] | telseth: | :) |
| [07:44:00] | Agrajag-: | cool. i got a decent cpu cooler (this massive thermaltake one) and it dropped about 25 degrees (celcius) |
| [07:44:00] | mchou: | haha! |
| [07:44:00] | Krazylegz: | Wow. |
| [07:45:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: compared to what? :) |
| [07:45:00] | Agrajag-: | i have an idea that the heatsink that came with it had a really crappy contact with the cpu |
| [07:45:00] | Agrajag-: | it was just a generic p4 heatsink/fan |
| [07:45:00] | Agrajag-: | it was going around 60 degrees celcius |
| [07:45:00] | mchou: | retail or OEM? |
| [07:45:00] | Agrajag-: | oem |
| [07:46:00] | mchou: | the proc was oem? |
| [07:46:00] | telseth: | i guess not |
| [07:46:00] | Agrajag-: | under load it could get around 70 degrees |
| [07:46:00] | mchou: | or the proc was retail? |
| [07:46:00] | Agrajag-: | didn't seem to affect anything though.. i just didn't like the idea of it being that hot. that's AMD type temps :P |
| [07:47:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: AMD temps are lower than P4's :) |
| [07:47:00] | Agrajag-: | uh.. actually yeah the processor was retail |
| [07:47:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: haha, you could have exchanged the proc :) |
| [07:47:00] | mchou: | warranty issue :) |
| [07:48:00] | mchou: | no way a proc can last too long running 70C |
| [07:48:00] | Agrajag-: | i coudn't be bothered, this thermaltake thing wasn't expensive |
| [07:48:00] | Agrajag-: | well it was going for at least 6 months on about that |
| [07:48:00] | Agrajag-: | also i'd put my own thermal paste on it to see if that made a difference |
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| [07:48:00] | Agrajag-: | that would've probably voided the warranty? |
| [07:49:00] | mchou: | heh |
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| [07:49:00] | mchou: | there's the problem right there :) |
| [07:49:00] | Agrajag-: | haha... it was hot before i tried that though |
| [07:49:00] | Agrajag-: | i tried that as a solution to the problem |
| [07:50:00] | Agrajag-: | does anyone have an lcdproc thing happening? i've been looking into getting one for my bday because i can't think of anything good to get... but they seem kinda expensive |
| [07:51:00] | Agrajag-: | well for the crytalfontz one + shipping it's more than i thought it'd be |
| [07:51:00] | Agrajag-: | fedex shipping to .au sucks |
| [07:52:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: you getting stuff from overseas?? |
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| [07:52:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah, i checked places here (crytalfontz.com don't have retailers) and nowhere has decent lcd modules |
| [07:53:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: then foget about it :) |
| [07:53:00] | mchou: | forgrt* |
| [07:53:00] | mchou: | forget** |
| [07:53:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah.. it's just a novelty, i can't think of any real use for one |
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| [08:00:00] | telseth: | im going to try one last time... |
| [08:00:00] | telseth: | anyone have mythfrontend crash sometimes when leaving a recording or live-tv mode... i get this if i run a log ... *** glibc detected *** mythfrontedn: free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x091a74e8 *** |
| [08:00:00] | Agrajag-: | what version of myth? |
| [08:01:00] | travolta: | telseth, no that does not happen to me |
| [08:02:00] | telseth: | 0.18.1.20050523–1 |
| [08:02:00] | Agrajag-: | telseth: try latest cvs/svn with debug mode, if you still get it, run it under gdb and submit a bug with the backtrace |
| [08:02:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: you looked into this? http://www.soundgraph.com/pr/e_pr_15.asp?m1d=1&m2d=15 |
| [08:02:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: http://www.soundgraph.com/pr/e_pr_11.asp?m1d=1&m2d=11 |
| [08:03:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: kinda of useless, if you ask me :) |
| [08:03:00] | Agrajag-: | heh yeah |
| [08:03:00] | Agrajag-: | i supose it only works with their pvr hardware |
| [08:04:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: Huh?? |
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| [08:05:00] | Agrajag-: | i didn't see the first link because i dont have flash.. but the second link is just for a remote/lcd thing right?.. and as far as i can tell, that company makes pvr hardware? |
| [08:05:00] | Agrajag-: | uhh pvr pc software rather |
| [08:06:00] | mchou: | not to my knowledge..... |
| [08:06:00] | mchou: | I mean they have pvr SW but the VFD is meant to be hacked. |
| [08:07:00] | Agrajag-: | oh ok |
| [08:07:00] | Agrajag-: | that's alright then |
| [08:07:00] | mchou: | first page is a distributor in au. |
| [08:09:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: http://venky.ws/projects/imon/ |
| [08:10:00] | mchou: | I still think it isn't much more than a novelty. |
| [08:11:00] | Agrajag-: | heh yeah |
| [08:12:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: you gonna buy one? |
| [08:12:00] | Agrajag-: | not me personally.. it's my birthday in a week and im telling my brothers what i want.. if i can't think of anything better to get, that might be on the list :P |
| [08:13:00] | mchou: | what's the price in .au? :) |
| [08:13:00] | Agrajag-: | bah these flash sites piss me off so much |
| [08:13:00] | Agrajag-: | dunno yet.. trying to find out |
| [08:13:00] | Agrajag-: | firefox is hopeless at automatically installing flash too |
| [08:14:00] | Agrajag-: | tells me it's going to, then just never gets anywhere, sits at "Downloading Macromedia Flash Player..." |
| [08:14:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: dont be a fool. |
| [08:14:00] | mchou: | go get it from the macromedia site yourself |
| [08:15:00] | Agrajag-: | soundgraph lists http://www.zylux.com.au/ as the .au distributer but i can't find any price lists there |
| [08:15:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: the distrib. is HQ in mebourne |
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| [08:16:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah.. brb got a meeting |
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| [08:17:00] | CCFL_Man: | heh, remember the first set top boxes for tvs... |
| [08:17:00] | CCFL_Man: | they were ufh to vhf converters |
| [08:19:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: wow, that's steep. In US that cost US$130...... |
| [08:20:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: for that price I'd rather get another tuner :) |
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| [08:24:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/index.php?redir . . . ategory_id]= |
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| [08:27:00] | Krazylegz: | The name of that website looks borderline PC. |
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| [08:30:00] | mchou: | Krazylegz: what's wrong with the name of the web site?? |
| [08:31:00] | Krazylegz: | AUSPC, looks like something you shouldn't call an Aussie. :-) |
| [08:32:00] | xris: | if anyone wants to pass helpful info along to any non-saavy friends: http://forevermore.net/rants/Software+and+the . . . ses+and+Spam |
| [08:32:00] | mchou: | xris: heh, tell them to use linux? |
| [08:33:00] | Krazylegz: | Not sure that I agree with all of those. |
| [08:33:00] | xris: | mchou: hardly |
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| [08:36:00] | mchou: | xris: you might as well tell people not to have sex :) |
| [08:37:00] | mchou: | xris: changing human behavior is almost pointless |
| [08:37:00] | goodwill: | Krazylegz: I figured it out, it teh cable for G450 not G400 |
| [08:37:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh? It's all because you were using the wrong cable? |
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| [08:38:00] | xris: | mchou: dunno about you, but my friends usually listen to me when I give them computer advice. |
| [08:38:00] | goodwill: | Krazylegz: the stupid cables look the same |
| [08:38:00] | Krazylegz: | Haha. |
| [08:38:00] | FITH: | Heh, mine listen then to stupid stuff anyways... :-/ |
| [08:38:00] | FITH: | (Like use windows) |
| [08:38:00] | Krazylegz: | FITH: Yeah, same here. |
| [08:39:00] | FITH: | "That's really interesting, I'll think about that right after I click on all these executable attachments from people that I don't know!" |
| [08:39:00] | Krazylegz: | I try to teach them to not install just any software, etc. They do it anyway. I'll bet if I were teaching them how to drive and said, "don't drive over the stop sign", we'd be doing some landscaping. |
| [08:45:00] | xris: | heh |
| [08:46:00] | goodwill: | Krazylegz: I had a friend who at work, run VMware within windows box to run linux so it could run crosover office outlook |
| [08:46:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: That's why I disagree with your writeup, I want them to know how to drive, rather than setting them up on padded roads. :-) |
| [08:46:00] | goodwill: | Krazylegz: cause he said it was the only way he was sure he is not getting crap executed automatically by outlook or such |
| [08:46:00] | Krazylegz: | goodwill: That makes my brain hurt. |
| [08:46:00] | goodwill: | Krazylegz: yeah |
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| [08:51:00] | thechris: | i updated my ivtv module to 0.37h, and now i get colored static instead of BW static |
| [08:51:00] | thechris: | any help as to getting an actual picture |
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| [08:52:00] | Agrajag-: | mchou: thanks for looking that up for me. but whoa... yeah that's a ridiculous price for what it really is |
| [08:52:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: your birthday better be damn important :) |
| [08:53:00] | mchou: | if you want the imon vfd that is :) |
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| [08:54:00] | Agrajag-: | pffft... even if i had plenty of money i still wouldn't buy it on the grounds that it's just.. not worth that amount :P |
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| [08:55:00] | thechris: | what isn't worth it? |
| [08:55:00] | Agrajag-: | over the top lcd panel with a fancy remote that doesn't really do anything for you except up your novelty geek points |
| [08:56:00] | thechris: | oh, agreed on that |
| [08:57:00] | ** thechris is getting mad that his new tv tuner will not work in linux or windows ** | |
| [08:57:00] | Agrajag-: | xris: you know.. every year or so i have to reformat my gf's family's computer, because it's just clogged up with malware/spyware/rubbish. every time i do it, i try to make it totally noob proof – done all those things you listed – but they still manage to fill it up with rubbish + virus etc. eventually |
| [08:58:00] | Krazylegz: | Agrajag: Don't let them run as administrator anymore. |
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| [08:58:00] | Agrajag-: | i don't |
| [08:58:00] | Agrajag-: | i've created one admin account that's the only administrator, and they logon as limited users normally |
| [08:59:00] | thechris: | any pvr150 or pvr250 users here? |
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| [08:59:00] | thechris: | what device do i use for myth? |
| [09:00:00] | thechris: | like mpeg0? |
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| [09:00:00] | Krazylegz: | thechris: You want to use the tuner? |
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| [09:02:00] | thechris: | Krazylegz: i assume that lets me watch TV |
| [09:02:00] | thechris: | Krazylegz: so yes |
| [09:04:00] | Krazylegz: | It's usually /dev/video0 , I think. |
| [09:04:00] | Krazylegz: | Can't get to my Mythbox at the moment. |
| [09:05:00] | thechris: | i have to reboot anyway i think |
| [09:05:00] | thechris: | some odd issue |
| [09:05:00] | thechris: | now mythfrontend hangs |
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| [09:09:00] | xris: | Agrajag-: such is life... |
| [09:09:00] | xris: | but it's probably better off than if you had NOT helped. |
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| [09:11:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: My cover letter sucks. |
| [09:12:00] | ** Krazylegz hesitates before clicking "Send" ** | |
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| [09:17:00] | thechris: | hmm. i still get colored static |
| [09:17:00] | thechris: | at least mythtv doesn't hang though |
| [09:20:00] | Krazylegz: | Did you try the ptune.pl script? |
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| [09:28:00] | thechris: | Krazylegz: for what? |
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| [09:28:00] | thechris: | i have no idea what i'm supposed to do |
| [09:28:00] | Krazylegz: | To change channels. |
| [09:28:00] | Krazylegz: | Aren't you following a tutorial? |
| [09:29:00] | thechris: | they all say that the ptune scripts exist |
| [09:29:00] | thechris: | but give no more info beyond that |
| [09:29:00] | thechris: | man ptune didn't give anything |
| [09:29:00] | Krazylegz: | You cannot locate the ptune.pl script? |
| [09:29:00] | thechris: | i have it |
| [09:29:00] | thechris: | but what do i do"? |
| [09:29:00] | Krazylegz: | Try ./ptune.pl , I think. |
| [09:30:00] | Krazylegz: | Like I said before, I don't have my Mythbox available right now. |
| [09:30:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: From southeast Pennsylvania, I stab at thee!! |
| [09:30:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: i.e. YGM. |
| [09:31:00] | thechris: | ok, i changed channel, what does that do for me? |
| [09:31:00] | thechris: | i still have no picture |
| [09:31:00] | Krazylegz: | Then you probably have the wrong tuner type. |
| [09:32:00] | Krazylegz: | Either that, or you need to try a different version of the ivtv driver. |
| [09:32:00] | thechris: | i'm using the newest |
| [09:32:00] | Krazylegz: | That's fine, but you may need to try a different version of the ivtv driver. |
| [09:32:00] | thechris: | i've also tried 0.37c |
| [09:33:00] | thechris: | also, how do i get mythtv to use alsa instead of oss? |
| [09:35:00] | Krazylegz: | One thing at a time. |
| [09:36:00] | Krazylegz: | Try a 0.2.x ivtv driver maybe? |
| [09:36:00] | Krazylegz: | PVR-500, right? |
| [09:36:00] | thechris: | yeah |
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| [09:39:00] | Krazylegz: | Bedtime. |
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| [12:21:00] | Matt---: | Hi all, I'm sorry to join the channel and immediately ask a question, but my Myth front end is about to get thrown out a window. Does anyone now much about modeline configuration for 1080i outputs? |
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| [12:25:00] | Matt---: | I guess everyone's idling. Thanks anyway guys, I'll try again later. |
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| [12:54:00] | robin_: | Is it possible to show Teletext (PAL, The Netherlands) with a PVR-150 in Mythtv ? Nothing happens when I use the 'T' |
| [12:55:00] | sphing: | i believe its supported. but i've never used it |
| [12:55:00] | robin_: | And If yes, is it also possible to record teletext, like subtitles.. |
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| [13:03:00] | Tommck: | now that Google Talk's out, does anyone need a GMail invitation? :) |
| [13:12:00] | laga: | so, 'videofilters' in the channel database is for the playback filters, right? |
| [13:12:00] | Tommck: | no idea |
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| [13:38:00] | tv-newbie: | is there anyway i can start X without the mouse pointer? |
| [13:38:00] | Tommck: | tv-newbie why? :) |
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| [13:40:00] | tv-newbie: | so that i don't get the mouse pointer which is annoying |
| [13:40:00] | GeckoFiend: | laga there's video filters and playback filters... |
| [13:40:00] | GeckoFiend: | tv-newbie Myth hides the mouse |
| [13:40:00] | Tommck: | exactly.. |
| [13:40:00] | tv-newbie: | when starting it, i can see it on tv |
| [13:41:00] | Tommck: | you mean before Myth launches? |
| [13:41:00] | tv-newbie: | yes |
| [13:41:00] | Tommck: | are you trying to fool someone or something? what is that? 30 seconds of time? |
| [13:41:00] | tv-newbie: | its just there, so was wondering if i could get rid of it, thats all |
| [13:42:00] | Tommck: | hhe |
| [13:42:00] | Tommck: | I'm sure there's a way... |
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| [13:51:00] | laga: | GeckoFiend: so, can i set playback filters on a per-channel base? |
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| [16:23:00] | TheWhtRab: | hey |
| [16:24:00] | TheWhtRab: | i saw somewhere on the internet u can find myth tv boxes threw google |
| [16:27:00] | laga: | through* |
| [16:27:00] | TheWhtRab: | yep lol |
| [16:27:00] | laga: | yeah, that's possible |
| [16:27:00] | TheWhtRab: | ya lol |
| [16:27:00] | TheWhtRab: | i found somebodys alreadyt |
| [16:27:00] | TheWhtRab: | lol |
| [16:28:00] | TheWhtRab: | u search this |
| [16:28:00] | TheWhtRab: | inurl:program_listing.php |
| [16:28:00] | TheWhtRab: | how do u prevent this |
| [16:29:00] | laga: | well, you don't let your apache listen on the internet |
| [16:29:00] | laga: | or you some kind of authentification, like via .htaccess |
| [16:29:00] | TheWhtRab: | k |
| [16:29:00] | TheWhtRab: | tya laot of people have authentication which is good lol |
| [16:30:00] | TheWhtRab: | when i set my box up ill have to put osme on |
| [16:30:00] | laga: | yeah |
| [16:30:00] | laga: | and make sure to install mod_speling |
| [16:30:00] | TheWhtRab: | what tipe of card do u have |
| [16:30:00] | laga: | pvr 250 |
| [16:31:00] | TheWhtRab: | hows the quality |
| [16:31:00] | TheWhtRab: | i want to get the 500 |
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| [16:31:00] | laga: | quality is great |
| [16:32:00] | TheWhtRab: | do u have like a sample video i could see lol |
| [16:32:00] | laga: | only some 2gb files ;) |
| [16:32:00] | TheWhtRab: | o |
| [16:32:00] | TheWhtRab: | lol |
| [16:33:00] | TheWhtRab: | do u have a fast connection i could just watch it as a stream for 1 minute lol |
| [16:33:00] | laga: | umm...no, i have 128kbit/s upload ;) |
| [16:33:00] | TheWhtRab: | like i already bought 2 cards which sucked |
| [16:33:00] | TheWhtRab: | could u take osme screen shots in full screen |
| [16:35:00] | laga: | it's not possible to take screenshots. and if i would change my setup to be able to do that, it would look bad. screenshots of video look either blue or rubbish ;) |
| [16:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | still shots from moving video ALWAYS look like crap |
| [16:35:00] | TheWhtRab: | really |
| [16:35:00] | TheWhtRab: | o |
| [16:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you pull an I-Frame from a video it would be one thing. But trying to grab a simple screenshot always looks like crap :) |
| [16:36:00] | TheWhtRab: | im ust afraid about the 500 i dont want to spend the 150 and get ripped off lol |
| [16:36:00] | TheWhtRab: | i dont knwo what an i frame is lol |
| [16:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: Launch myth with xv output disabled and then you can take a screenshot of the video window/osd/whatever |
| [16:36:00] | laga: | i-frame is something like a full image |
| [16:36:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: i know how i do it, but i'm so not going to ;) |
| [16:37:00] | TheWhtRab: | i dont want to trouble u guys lol |
| [16:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | oh :) |
| [16:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | Heh I can show you a scvreenshot of it playing via vmware, but that looks crappy too :) |
| [16:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/mythtv-openbsdvm-x11.jpg |
| [16:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | looks pretty much perfect on the TV however |
| [16:38:00] | TheWhtRab: | ok |
| [16:38:00] | laga: | openbsd in vmware running mythfrontend. you, sir, are a geek. |
| [16:39:00] | ** GreyFoxx borrowed a 350 this morning from a coworker, so I'll add 350 output to that mythslax distro ** | |
| [16:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: heh |
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| [16:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | Had audio working and everything heh |
| [16:40:00] | jams: | GreyFoxx, does that distro include everything needed to recompile myth? |
| [16:40:00] | TheWhtRab: | doe sthe 500 come with a remote |
| [16:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | jams: Nope no dev stuff beyond perl and such |
| [16:41:00] | jams: | when I did mythslax the size was around 500MB |
| [16:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | jams: Mine is about 159Meg total |
| [16:41:00] | jams: | ahh that explains the size difference |
| [16:41:00] | TheWhtRab: | how many gigs would a 30 min simpson show be in mpeg2 |
| [16:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | I am looking for simple usb bootable frontends, If they want to upgrade they just need to replace the module and reboot |
| [16:41:00] | laga: | and he won't let me play with it. ;) |
| [16:41:00] | jams: | I included all stuff required to recomiple |
| [16:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | TheWhtRab: Around 1G based on the bitrate |
| [16:42:00] | laga: | TheWhtRab: 1.5gb here. |
| [16:42:00] | TheWhtRab: | wow |
| [16:42:00] | TheWhtRab: | so i only get 3 episodes per dvd |
| [16:42:00] | TheWhtRab: | that sucks lol |
| [16:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can reencode to clean it up, or lower the bitrate. The cleaner the signal, the better the compression |
| [16:43:00] | laga: | does mythtranscode support denoising? |
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| [16:43:00] | jams: | new nuv2disc released |
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| [16:43:00] | TheWhtRab: | is there a way to get a smaller file without reencoding |
| [16:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | lower the bitrate |
| [16:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | and the video quality lowers as well |
| [16:43:00] | TheWhtRab: | is lowering bitrate better the reencoding |
| [16:44:00] | TheWhtRab: | like im able to renecode a whole dvd in a half an hour |
| [16:45:00] | TheWhtRab: | damm the 500 doesnt come with a remote |
| [16:47:00] | TheWhtRab: | what another dual tuner card |
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| [16:50:00] | TheWhtRab: | anybdody know another dual tv tuner card |
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| [16:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | The only Dual card I've seen around has been the 500 |
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| [16:56:00] | laga: | well, get a 500 and a remote |
| [16:56:00] | TheWhtRab: | hwo do i hook a remote up |
| [16:56:00] | laga: | usb? serial? |
| [16:56:00] | TheWhtRab: | whats a cheap remote |
| [16:57:00] | laga: | one for a low price, i think |
| [16:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | haha |
| [16:57:00] | TheWhtRab: | ya |
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| [16:59:00] | TheWhtRab: | they start at 30 i sea |
| [16:59:00] | TheWhtRab: | see |
| [17:01:00] | laga: | what about the ati remote wonder? or the x10 lola? |
| [17:03:00] | TheWhtRab: | hwo much r those |
| [17:03:00] | laga: | dunno, sorry |
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| [17:04:00] | TheWhtRab: | gtg |
| [17:04:00] | TheWhtRab: | thasnks |
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| [17:05:00] | Krazylegz: | That was weird. |
| [17:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [17:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | Probably just dyslexia. |
| [17:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hell, helf the time I show signs of it :) |
| [17:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | (that was on purpose btw) :) |
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| [17:10:00] | Krazylegz: | Uh huh. :-) |
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| [17:59:00] | disavowed: | are there any uk dvb users here? i'm about 1 step from pulling all my hair out lol |
| [18:01:00] | disavowed: | ok i will rephrase it, is there any uk users here who actually have the tv_grab_uk_rt script workin for them, and not adding another 30 duplicate channels to their list |
| [18:04:00] | johnp_: | At a guess, I'd say you hadn't set up the xmltvids after doing a scan. |
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| [18:05:00] | disavowed: | nope thats set up, they match perfect, but it isnt adding the schedule to the existing channels in the db, its creatin new ones |
| [18:05:00] | disavowed: | ie midlands.bbc1.bbc.co.uk under the xmltvids field |
| [18:06:00] | disavowed: | if i run mythfilldatabase --manual, it says new channel found, it wont match the existing channels despite the same xmltvid |
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| [18:07:00] | disavowed: | ive read on a forum somethin bout the xmltvid field not bein set correctly, but it doesnt explain in any detail |
| [18:08:00] | MrFluffy: | Im having a issue with setup if anyones able to help. Ive got multiple feeds configured but only channels from my uk_grab_rt channels are showing up in mythtv, which is the first set of channels configured... |
| [18:08:00] | MrFluffy: | the rest of the feeds are there, but they dont show up in mythfrontend..? |
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| [18:10:00] | MrFluffy: | but theyre in the sql database when I check there too... Im missing something obvious arent I? |
| [18:11:00] | johnp_: | disavowed, sorry that was my guess. I don't run the script myself so I'm not sure why it's messing up for you. (Not some madness to do with the videosource id is it ? , now that really is a guess) |
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| [18:14:00] | disavowed: | ive been playin with it the last 2 days, even got phpmyadmin constantly open to check the db, it seems that even though the id's match the program disagrees |
| [18:14:00] | disavowed: | i sorted my -1 hour schedule problem though, something i suppose |
| [18:18:00] | MrFluffy: | nobody any ideas why the extra channels arent showing up in mythfrontend? Ive been chasing it for nigh on two days now.. |
| [18:18:00] | MrFluffy: | I just want to be able to have my secure bear to show up on the mythfrontend ;) |
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| [18:28:00] | Hydrian: | What version of xmame works in 18.1? |
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| [18:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | I think the old mythgame code (0.18.1) was happy with anything 0.83 or above |
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| [18:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I never used it back then so I couldn't say for sure |
| [18:31:00] | Hydrian: | thanks... I had real issues with mythgame .17 compaining about mame versions |
| [18:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | in SVN all ties to specific versions are gone |
| [18:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | you can use any version of any emulator |
| [18:32:00] | Beirdo: | including the emulator known as xterm :) |
| [18:32:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:32:00] | ** Beirdo is evil ** | |
| [18:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | But since it's not tied to apps or versions it doesn't have any config screens for you, so you need to configure the app on your own or on the commandline you provide :) |
| [18:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: Yes, xterm would be an option :) |
| [18:33:00] | Beirdo: | damn, I'm tired |
| [18:34:00] | Beirdo: | and I have to go rack 3 servers in a few |
| [18:34:00] | Beirdo: | blech |
| [18:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [18:34:00] | Beirdo: | then take a taxi back |
| [18:34:00] | Beirdo: | blech |
| [18:34:00] | MrFluffy: | just be glad theyre not proxys with disk shelves ;) |
| [18:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm compiling up myth under openbsd 3.8 snapshot to see if it still compiles. Then see if it barfs due to the new memory allocation restrictions |
| [18:34:00] | Beirdo: | I've jockeyed 8U disk shelves before |
| [18:35:00] | MrFluffy: | a fully populated ds14 at 2am, not nice... |
| [18:35:00] | Beirdo: | these are just 1U servers, but still a nuisance |
| [18:35:00] | Beirdo: | how about running customer-serving mail servers? :) |
| [18:35:00] | Beirdo: | "that server has to go up 1U, and we can't shut down for a maintenance" |
| [18:35:00] | Beirdo: | fuuuuuck |
| [18:36:00] | Beirdo: | took 3 people to do that |
| [18:36:00] | MrFluffy: | thats when you order a spare set of rails and find some cat5 barrels for some quick bodging ;) |
| [18:36:00] | Beirdo: | two to hold the damn thing (carefully) and one to move the rails and screw em back in |
| [18:37:00] | Beirdo: | no "quick bodging" |
| [18:37:00] | Beirdo: | it was running and actively sending mail while we moved it |
| [18:37:00] | Hydrian: | Beirdo: I know the feeling. Nothing like moving a fully populated HP ML570 hot. |
| [18:37:00] | Beirdo: | sucks :) |
| [18:37:00] | MrFluffy: | if your fast you can get some cat5 extenders into everything and get the port back up before it causes a problem |
| [18:37:00] | Beirdo: | then when I get back, I get to pull out the rest of the wiring for these 3 servers |
| [18:38:00] | Beirdo: | MrFluffy: not bloody likely |
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| [18:38:00] | MrFluffy: | and if your lucky its a sun and you admin it through the serial, and therefore dont loose the kvm either ;) |
| [18:38:00] | Beirdo: | this server transits >1M mail a day |
| [18:38:00] | Beirdo: | a 2s break is noticed |
| [18:38:00] | Beirdo: | and of course it's Sun :) |
| [18:38:00] | ** Beirdo is a Solaris admin by day ** | |
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| [18:39:00] | Hydrian: | Is the machine dual NICed? |
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| [18:39:00] | Beirdo: | I don't remember |
| [18:39:00] | MrFluffy: | u can get that cat5e extension in, in about 500ms if your deft :p |
| [18:40:00] | MrFluffy: | "must have been network latency" :) |
| [18:40:00] | Beirdo: | OK, gotta go |
| [18:40:00] | Beirdo: | it's GO time |
| [18:40:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [18:42:00] | MrFluffy: | have fun, there but for the grace of being on holiday go I ;) |
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| [18:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | CD MAIL |
| [18:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | LS -LA |
| [18:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Oops :) |
| [18:48:00] | Henkie: | if i watch live-tv, the sample rate of the audio is way too high (i think, the sound goes very fast) |
| [18:48:00] | Henkie: | but i can normally record from the line-in, and then the audio is fine |
| [18:50:00] | Henkie: | btw, i use alsa to record, from the bttv device itself goes fine, but the soundquality isnt really nice |
| [18:51:00] | kormoc: | all bttv cards have semicrappy sound |
| [18:51:00] | Henkie: | yeah, but recording from alsa doesnt work atm, what could it be? |
| [18:54:00] | Henkie: | hmm, restarting alsasound + mythbackend solved it |
| [18:54:00] | Henkie: | strange :) |
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| [19:23:00] | Chacabaou: | Is DVB in the current svn still broken? |
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| [19:30:00] | ** Atamido remembers back when Linux users would say that restarting to fix a problem was a Windows thing. :P ** | |
| [19:30:00] | sona: | it is |
| [19:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | Atamido: IT still is |
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| [19:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | unfortunately with the influx of less knowledgable users who don't understand how to load a module manually or deal with init scripts, rebooting "fixes" their problems |
| [19:33:00] | ** FITH looks at his Myth Front/Back end... up 132 days, 15:04 ** | |
| [19:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | I reboot mine stuff too often due to hardware changes to bother with my uptime :) |
| [19:34:00] | ** Atamido wonders why his MythFrontend will crash to the desktop randomly. ** | |
| [19:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | If it takes out the desktop then it's more likely a video driver bug |
| [19:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | myth might crash, but only take down itself |
| [19:35:00] | FITH: | Heh, yeah, I'm still running 0.16 and ancient ivtv drivers too :) |
| [19:35:00] | Atamido: | A few weeks ago I froze my system by trying to fast forward LiveTV that had been paused for a few hours. |
| [19:35:00] | ** GreyFoxx is running SVN from an hour ago :) ** | |
| [19:35:00] | FITH: | I'll have to come up to 0.18.1 some time soon... probably just in time for 0.19 :) |
| [19:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | Atamido: Did you fill up the ringbuffer ? Can't say I've ever paused livetv longer than an hour or two. LiveTV is also something I only use once every couple weeks |
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| [19:37:00] | Atamido: | Nope, wasn't filled. |
| [19:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | When you say "froze the system" do you mean myth or the entire desktop, ie couldn't even ssh in |
| [19:37:00] | stf33: | is there anybody have probleme with mythfilldatabase ? |
| [19:38:00] | Atamido: | I don't use it to often now that I have shows being recorded often, but I paused something, forgot about it, then left somewhere. |
| [19:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | stf33: According to my email from this morning mythfilldb worked for me today |
| [19:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | what exactly is the problem you are seeing ? |
| [19:38:00] | FITH: | Heh, I had liveTV fill the buffer and unpause itself one time... scared the hell out of me :) |
| [19:38:00] | FITH: | "I hear voices!!!" |
| [19:38:00] | Atamido: | GreyFoxx: I didn't try to SSH, but I tried changing to another term and it finally responded after a few minutes. |
| [19:39:00] | Atamido: | F1, F2, etc |
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| [19:39:00] | Atamido: | Maybe I should get more RAM for it. |
| [19:40:00] | Atamido: | 512MB doesn't seem to be enough. :P |
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| [19:40:00] | stf33: | Let me make the problem. |
| [19:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | that should be more than plenty :) |
| [19:41:00] | Atamido: | I don't like the long pause sometimes when backing out of LiveTV, and sometimes recorded shows. |
| [19:41:00] | stf33: | Warning at /var/www/html/mythweb/weather.php, line 104: |
| [19:41:00] | stf33: | file() [function.file]: php_network_getaddresses: getaddrinfo failed: Temporary failure in name resolution |
| [19:41:00] | stf33: | i cant resolv http://w3.weather.com |
| [19:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | stf33: What has that got to do with mythfilldatabase? OR did you originally meant mythweb ? |
| [19:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | Atamido: Often Filesystem type, and other drive stuff can make that faster |
| [19:43:00] | Atamido: | Probably, but now that I actually have MythTV working, it would take a system meltdown for me to change any settings in it. ;) |
| [19:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yay, I didn't have to patch this to get it running. I was thinking I'd have to |
| [19:44:00] | stf33: | Ho dam i think i'm ready for a another holyday.... Yes me prob is with mythweb specialy with weather |
| [19:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | Atamido: hehe I understand |
| [19:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | stf33: I could use a Holiday myself :) |
| [19:45:00] | stf33: | basicly when i try to get weather via the mythweb i got this error message (Warning at /var/www/html/mythweb/weather.php, line 104: |
| [19:45:00] | stf33: | file() [function.file]: php_network_getaddresses: getaddrinfo failed: Temporary failure in name resolution) |
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| [19:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | I assume DNS is properly configured on that box so that it can lookup the hostname ? |
| [19:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | open a shell on that machine and try to lookup w3.weather.com |
| [19:52:00] | stf33: | ok the prob is dissapere must be a DNS temporary failure... |
| [19:53:00] | stf33: | take for your mental support :) |
| [19:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh np :) |
| [19:54:00] | stf33: | Ho! i got a problem than i never resolv.... I cant see any avi file in the mythlibrary any idee |
| [19:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sure, point mythvideo to the proper root edirectory of your videos, and then use the video manager to scan them into the database (or configure it to just let you navigate the file system so that you don't have to scan them in) |
| [19:57:00] | Chacabaou: | If anybody cares...I tracked the DVB problems in the current svn down to revision 7027. |
| [19:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | Chacabaou: Fill in a bug report or send an email to -dev :) |
| [20:01:00] | Chacabaou: | GreyFoxx: Well, I'm quite busy atm, and not really inside the whole "dev thing", but maybe that information helps somebody. ;) |
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| [20:02:00] | laga: | Chacabaou: filling in a bug report is not a big thing. |
| [20:03:00] | rah[laptop]: | sending a patch is better tho :) |
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| [20:54:00] | bazil--: | anyone here from sweden and willing to record the lost episode on tv4 starting now ? |
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| [20:56:00] | StillBob: | lol |
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| [20:57:00] | bazil--: | lol .. ya .. very funny |
| [20:57:00] | bazil--: | fuck i only have one card and i wanna record 2 shows .. guyes help me out |
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| [21:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | bazil--: Sure, here you go: http://www.pcalchemy.com/product_info.php/pNa . . . rdstv-tuners |
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| [21:06:00] | bazil--: | its nice when ppl actually help out .. thanks alot |
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| [21:09:00] | ** laga wonder if pcalchemy.com ships to sweden ** | |
| [21:10:00] | kormoc: | if you pay them enough, likly |
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| [21:28:00] | Tatster: | Hi – I am thinking about a Mythtv setup but I have a question about tuners including Freeview...... |
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| [21:28:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [21:29:00] | Tatster: | What I am planning is a box in my roof as the backend with 1 or 2 capture cards and plenty of disks etc, then I will have another box in my lounge as the frontend.....so far so good |
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| [21:32:00] | Tatster: | now currently I have a freeview box in my lounge and I would like to have freeview capability in my Myth setup but I'm not sure how that would work in terms of changing channels if the freeview box was attached to the backend server in the roof |
| [21:32:00] | Tatster: | can someone enlighten me? |
| [21:38:00] | Tatster: | Please? |
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| [22:20:00] | MrFluffy: | Tatster, you need to rig up some kind of irblaster and use a external channel change command to send it the ir codes |
| [22:21:00] | k-man_: | whats a good window manager to use? |
| [22:21:00] | k-man_: | im using blackbox at the moment and i'm finding it a bit funny |
| [22:21:00] | k-man_: | any suggestions? |
| [22:22:00] | MrFluffy: | myth and kde play well together...? |
| [22:25:00] | MrFluffy: | I have a question, I have multiple inputs into my single backend server, and multiple channel feeds (theres 3 different listings on the inputs), *but* I put them all in, and myth only shows the channels from the first channel source, any ideas? |
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| [22:47:00] | Tatster: | MrFluffy: sorry can you explain a bit more. |
| [22:49:00] | MrFluffy: | Tatster, you have a stb for the freeview feed right? |
| [22:49:00] | MrFluffy: | you hook that onto your composite feed or the like on the capture card |
| [22:50:00] | MrFluffy: | and put a IR sender on the backend, and set up lirc so you can send the stb the same codes as the remote would |
| [22:50:00] | Tatster: | Yes I get that bit |
| [22:50:00] | MrFluffy: | then, you can send it IR codes to change to a certain channel from the command line, and myth has a way of executing a command to change channel |
| [22:50:00] | MrFluffy: | an external command |
| [22:51:00] | MrFluffy: | what usually happens is someones already wrote a shellscript that you can trigger off in the box in the config |
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| [22:51:00] | MrFluffy: | myth says tune to channel (eg) eurosport, that translates to 415 (made up eg) and that passes 415 off to the shell script |
| [22:52:00] | MrFluffy: | the shell script translates that into IR codes and switches the stb to that channel |
| [22:52:00] | MrFluffy: | i have similar with sky, but I dont use a IR blaster anymore |
| [22:54:00] | Tatster: | so when I change channels on the frontend, Myth frontend communicates with backend to change channels which then translates to 415 (eg) and sends to the shell script – right? |
| [22:54:00] | MrFluffy: | yeppers |
| [22:54:00] | Tatster: | great – I get it now. Thanks |
| [22:54:00] | MrFluffy: | on my sky boxes I have a usb dongle that squirts the IR codes into the RF socket on the sky decoders |
| [22:54:00] | MrFluffy: | I run them with FTA cards... |
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| [22:55:00] | MrFluffy: | sky boxes listen on their RF2 for remote codes in RF... weird... |
| [22:55:00] | LedHed: | can anyone here recommend a Gigabit NIC? |
| [22:56:00] | LedHed: | Copper not Fiber |
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| [22:57:00] | Beirdo: | LedHed: MythTV doesn't care what NIC you use |
| [22:57:00] | LedHed: | I know that |
| [22:57:00] | Beirdo: | then why ask here? |
| [22:58:00] | Beirdo: | nothing a little google can't find ya |
| [22:58:00] | LedHed: | I've been googling |
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| [22:58:00] | LedHed: | seems like linux has lots of trouble with Gig-E |
| [22:58:00] | Riff-Raff: | it has? |
| [22:58:00] | Beirdo: | seems to work fine for me |
| [22:58:00] | Riff-Raff: | with good adapters? |
| [22:58:00] | LedHed: | from what I've seen from googling |
| [22:59:00] | Riff-Raff: | or with crappy realtek ones? |
| [22:59:00] | LedHed: | Beirdo, can you recommend one then? |
| [22:59:00] | Beirdo: | I use whatever's onboard, it works fine |
| [22:59:00] | Riff-Raff: | I will never again buy anything else but 3com and intel |
| [22:59:00] | Beirdo: | Riff-Raff: 3com had shitty ones last I looked |
| [22:59:00] | StillBob: | hell crappy realtek ones are bad for 10/100 |
| [22:59:00] | Beirdo: | realtek are rock solit at 10/100 |
| [22:59:00] | ** MrFluffy looks sadly at the pile of 3c509's in the duff bin near his desk ** | |
| [22:59:00] | LedHed: | Beirdo, what onboard chips have you used? |
| [23:00:00] | Beirdo: | whatever it is that's onboard |
| [23:00:00] | Beirdo: | I dunno |
| [23:00:00] | Riff-Raff: | Beirdo: ok, this "promise" was made back in 2000 or so, since then every board has had an integrated one |
| [23:00:00] | Riff-Raff: | 3c509 rocks :) |
| [23:00:00] | Beirdo: | the 3c509 ruled |
| [23:00:00] | MrFluffy: | maybe ive just been unluck as they got older... |
| [23:00:00] | LedHed: | was looking at the RealTek 8169 or the Marvel Yucon |
| [23:01:00] | Beirdo: | but the 3com gige are troublesome |
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| [23:01:00] | Beirdo: | I think my new machine has Marvel Yukon |
| [23:02:00] | Riff-Raff: | that seems to be pretty common, does it work? |
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| [23:02:00] | LedHed: | the Linksys and D-Link cards use the Marvel... |
| [23:02:00] | ** Beirdo wants to curl up and go to sleep ** | |
| [23:02:00] | Beirdo: | it works fine |
| [23:02:00] | Riff-Raff: | my previous mobo had 3com and nvidia, even in windows the nvidia only got 100kB/sec or so |
| [23:02:00] | LedHed: | Beirdo, what kernel? |
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| [23:02:00] | Beirdo: | LedHed: whatever Ubuntu Hoary installed |
| [23:02:00] | Beirdo: | 2.6.10, I think |
| [23:02:00] | LedHed: | ok thanks |
| [23:03:00] | Beirdo: | I haven't had any issues |
| [23:04:00] | LedHed: | looking at upgrading my network to Gig-E. Marvel Cards are around $25 now.... |
| [23:04:00] | Riff-Raff: | intel is $28.99 |
| [23:04:00] | LedHed: | the Switch is gonna break the bank |
| [23:04:00] | Riff-Raff: | (for 32bit PCI) |
| [23:04:00] | Riff-Raff: | LedHed: what kinda switch are you thinkin? |
| [23:04:00] | Riff-Raff: | managed? |
| [23:05:00] | pmowry: | Any comments about Current SVN versions of mythtv as far as stability with a PVR-350? I have not updated since May 20th. I'm willing to live a few bugs, but don't want to piss off the wife to much. |
| [23:05:00] | LedHed: | Not sure yet. NetGear or D-Link |
| [23:05:00] | StillBob: | LedHed: I run Fedora, I am using GA311 cards from Netgear, one of the 12 failed in the first 3 months others are fine |
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| [23:05:00] | LedHed: | StillBob, GA311 is that Gig-E or 10/100? |
| [23:05:00] | Riff-Raff: | LedHed: you can definitely get gb switches under $100 |
| [23:06:00] | StillBob: | LedHed: Gig |
| [23:06:00] | LedHed: | not a 24 port |
| [23:06:00] | Riff-Raff: | aaa |
| [23:06:00] | Riff-Raff: | ok |
| [23:06:00] | Riff-Raff: | $170 |
| [23:06:00] | Riff-Raff: | not too bad |
| [23:06:00] | LedHed: | StillBob, the GA311 what is it detected as by Fedora? |
| [23:06:00] | StillBob: | LedHed: I went with a lowend netgear Gig switch also |
| [23:06:00] | Riff-Raff: | woot! even claims to have VLAN support |
| [23:07:00] | StillBob: | LedHed: no in the office right now, can't tell you off the top of my head |
| [23:07:00] | LedHed: | did it autodetect it? |
| [23:07:00] | StillBob: | LedHed: Yup |
| [23:07:00] | LedHed: | sweet! |
| [23:07:00] | LedHed: | I'll check it out... |
| [23:09:00] | LedHed: | Humm, The GA311 uses the RealTek 8169 chip.. I've read mixed reviews |
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| [23:10:00] | StillBob: | LedHed: you know how that goes, but "works for me"(tm) |
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| [23:10:00] | LedHed: | ya, thats why I asked for recommendations. Gives me a better idea than google |
| [23:10:00] | Beirdo: | home time |
| [23:11:00] | StillBob: | later Beirdo |
| [23:11:00] | LedHed: | see ya Beirdo |
| [23:12:00] | LedHed: | google seems to bring the worst out, You dont post to forums and bitch if the card works well. So there is a negative slant |
| [23:12:00] | StillBob: | yup |
| [23:13:00] | MrFluffy: | ok, im getting really puzzled now, I have 3 seperate feeds, each with their own channel listing configured in mythtvsetup, I can see them all in mythweb, but when I go into mythfrontend only stuff from the first channel listings feed is present..? any ideas? Im sure its a config issue.. |
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| [23:24:00] | lcdg720: | LIRC – hauppauge 250 remote. irw receives commands. lircd running. ivtv detects hauppauge remote. kirc receives appropriate signal from remote. Remote does not function within MythFrontend |
| [23:24:00] | LedHed: | copy the lircrc file to ~/mythtv |
| [23:25:00] | Krazylegz: | LedHed: Isn't it ~/.mythtv ? |
| [23:25:00] | lcdg720: | have the lircrc file within ~/.mythtv |
| [23:25:00] | LedHed: | yup, sorry |
| [23:26:00] | lcdg720: | currently running as root until I get problems sorted out. have lircrc in /root/.mythtv/ |
| [23:27:00] | LedHed: | try this link. Its a good LIRC howto. Geared towards Fedora, but info applies |
| [23:27:00] | LedHed: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php#lirc |
| [23:27:00] | lcdg720: | looking... |
| [23:28:00] | LedHed: | read all sections even if you dont use serial or pvr-x50 |
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| [23:29:00] | lcdg720: | checking step by step. So far looks like what I followed. I believe I did uses a wilsonet howto but this page does look different. |
| [23:31:00] | jonK: | does mythfrontend report a problem loading the lircrc file? |
| [23:31:00] | MrFluffy: | will mythfrontend still switch to channels if its never had guide data for them? |
| [23:32:00] | LedHed: | I dont know. never tried. give it a shot |
| [23:32:00] | lcdg720: | no problem overtly reported. can't find anything in /var/log for mythfrontend though. Can switch channels with keyboard. |
| [23:32:00] | jonK: | no, run mythfrontend from a shell window |
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| [23:32:00] | jonK: | when it starts it will spit some messages to the shell window |
| [23:33:00] | lcdg720: | ahh. k. will try. |
| [23:33:00] | LedHed: | lcdg720, you have to tell it to log in the setup |
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| [23:33:00] | k-man: | anyone here have experience getting dual head tv-out going? |
| [23:33:00] | k-man: | when my card tries to start the tv-out output in X |
| [23:33:00] | k-man: | i get this error.... |
| [23:33:00] | LedHed: | lcdg720, post your lircrc and lcd.conf @ pastebin |
| [23:33:00] | k-man: | Using ConnectedMonitor string "TV-0" |
| [23:33:00] | k-man: | (EE) NVIDIA(1): The requested configuration of display devices is not |
| [23:33:00] | k-man: | supported in the hardware. |
| [23:33:00] | k-man: | any ideas what I might be doing wrong? |
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| [23:34:00] | LedHed: | lcdg720, have you restarted the frontend? |
| [23:36:00] | lcdg720: | working on it. just enabled logging... |
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| [23:39:00] | lcdg720: | aha!!!!! "lirc_init failed for mythtv, see preceding messages" is in the shell |
| [23:39:00] | lcdg720: | looking for "preceding messages" now |
| [23:40:00] | lcdg720: | hmm. I see "mythtv: could not connect to socket" and "mythtv: Connection refused" immediately before the lirc_init failed for mythtv error. |
| [23:40:00] | jonK: | one question, did you used to have this working"? |
| [23:40:00] | lcdg720: | nope. only in kirc or irw. |
| [23:40:00] | jonK: | permissions on /dev/lirc? |
| [23:41:00] | lcdg720: | checking permissions (but I am running as root) |
| [23:41:00] | jonK: | running mythfrontend as root? |
| [23:42:00] | lcdg720: | lirc0 crw-rw---- |
| [23:42:00] | lcdg720: | I think that is 660 |
| [23:42:00] | LedHed: | is this a serial or i2c reciever |
| [23:43:00] | lcdg720: | i2c receiver. modprove i2c is set and shows up good in dmesg |
| [23:43:00] | jonK: | modprobe lirc_i2c? |
| [23:43:00] | jonK: | you mean don't you? |
| [23:43:00] | LedHed: | i think it needs both |
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| [23:44:00] | lcdg720: | dmesg shows: "lirc_i2c: chip found @ 0x18 (Hauppauge IR)" |
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| [23:45:00] | LedHed: | ok, it cant be a module/hardware issue, because your are getting codes in IRW right? |
| [23:45:00] | LedHed: | permissions either |
| [23:46:00] | lcdg720: | yes. getting codes in irw. lirc.conf should be correct because in kirc when I hit a button on the remote, it goes right to it. |
| [23:46:00] | lcdg720: | "Connection refused" Wonder if it is tied up with something else?.. hmm.. |
| [23:47:00] | LedHed: | lcdg720, it must be the lircrc file. is it set to be executable? |
| [23:47:00] | lcdg720: | think so... checking... |
| [23:47:00] | LedHed: | mine is set to: -rwxr-xr-x |
| [23:47:00] | jonK: | where did you get the lircrc file |
| [23:47:00] | jonK: | only need to read it, |
| [23:47:00] | lcdg720: | yes. lircrc is executable by user, group and others. |
| [23:47:00] | LedHed: | I made it |
| [23:48:00] | lcdg720: | I got the lircrc file from wilsonet (grey hauppauge remote). |
| [23:48:00] | LedHed: | humm |
| [23:48:00] | lcdg720: | It is a pickle. :) |
| [23:48:00] | LedHed: | what distro? |
| [23:49:00] | lcdg720: | gentoo |
| [23:49:00] | LedHed: | :( |
| [23:49:00] | lcdg720: | hee hee. You've helped alot. At least I can see the error now. |
| [23:49:00] | lcdg720: | With some work I should be able to figure it out. |
| [23:50:00] | LedHed: | you have the hard part working. if IRW is giving codes then dont mess with the module/modprobe stuff |
| [23:50:00] | lcdg720: | So far I have 3 problems left to fix: remote, sound (optical in/out), and a blue line on the left of the screen. |
| [23:50:00] | LedHed: | lcdg720, where is the lircrc file exactly? |
| [23:50:00] | ** xris watches his head explode ** | |
| [23:50:00] | lcdg720: | yep. ir hardware is up and running. somehow (i see now) that mythtv can't connect to it. |
| [23:51:00] | LedHed: | lcdg720, where is the lircrc file exactly? |
| [23:51:00] | lcdg720: | From howto guide, there were two options for the lircrc. I chose the option to put it in /root/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [23:52:00] | LedHed: | shouldnt it be /home/root/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [23:52:00] | LedHed: | or is there no home in gentoo? |
| [23:52:00] | lcdg720: | maybe on your distro. root home is /root |
| [23:52:00] | lcdg720: | users homes are /home/username |
| [23:53:00] | LedHed: | I only know Fedora. |
| [23:53:00] | k-man: | for some reason, my video card says this: Multiple displays connected, but only one display allowed; |
| [23:53:00] | k-man: | (WW) NVIDIA(0): using first display |
| [23:53:00] | LedHed: | so where are the user home folders stored? |
| [23:53:00] | lcdg720: | k-man What kind of card? what are you trying to get going? |
| [23:53:00] | k-man: | does that mean I have some sort of crippled nvidia card that doesn't support simultaneous tv-out? |
| [23:53:00] | lcdg720: | user folders are /home/username |
| [23:53:00] | k-man: | geforce fx 5200 |
| [23:53:00] | lcdg720: | I do to. |
| [23:54:00] | k-man: | lcd on the first output and tv-out on the second output |
| [23:54:00] | lcdg720: | geforce fx5200. my tvout is working fine. |
| [23:54:00] | LedHed: | lcdg720, where is roots home folder? not /home/root? |
| [23:54:00] | lcdg720: | want xorg.conf file? |
| [23:54:00] | k-man: | lcdg720, simultaneously? |
| [23:54:00] | lcdg720: | roots home folder is at /root |
| [23:54:00] | k-man: | yeah sure... im using xfree86 though |
| [23:55:00] | lcdg720: | I don't run simultaneous. I do know that when I was setting it up for the first time, it was simultaneous. |
| [23:55:00] | lcdg720: | Haven't used irc for 10 years. lemme figure out how to transfer a file... |
| [23:55:00] | LedHed: | lcdg720, try running it as user mythtv as the docs say. maybe mythtv looks to the /home/user folder and doesnt know where to find it |
| [23:56:00] | k-man: | lcdg720, so you could if you wanted? |
| [23:56:00] | lcdg720: | I think you are on to something LedHed. from the "connection refused" message I'm betting something in MythFrontend is set to connect to it with mythtv. |
| [23:56:00] | lcdg720: | will try to run it as mythtv |
| [23:57:00] | lcdg720: | looking for my xorg.conf ... for k-man |
| [23:57:00] | LedHed: | or just create a /home//root/.mythtv/lircrc file |
| [23:57:00] | LedHed: | too mant slashes :) |
| [23:57:00] | k-man: | thanks |
| [23:57:00] | lcdg720: | will try it. |
| [23:59:00] | LedHed: | hum, looks like I was wrong about fedora using /home/root/ its in /root also.... |
| [23:59:00] | lcdg720: | heh heh. |
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