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| [00:09:00] | dmz: | ok, thanks for the resolution fix :) now i can see the whole screen. |
| [00:15:00] | dampjam: | What libraries do I have to install before trying to compile mythplugins |
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| [00:21:00] | mortal5: | could someone tell me why this doesn't work: |
| [00:21:00] | mortal5: | * |
| [00:21:00] | mortal5: | o ffmpeg -i <input-file> -vcodec mpeg4 -b <bitrate> -acodec mp3 -ab <audio-bitrate> -f avi -deinterlace <output-file> |
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| [00:21:00] | mortal5: | err hang on |
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| [00:24:00] | mortal5: | ffmpeg -i test.mpg -vcodec mpeg4 -b 2200 -acodec mp3 -ab 128 -f avi -deinterlace test.avi |
| [00:25:00] | mortal5: | ^someone tell me why that doesn't work? |
| [00:26:00] | sparky_elite: | whats the error? |
| [00:26:00] | mortal5: | hang on |
| [00:27:00] | mortal5: | Unsupported codec for output stream #0.1 |
| [00:27:00] | sparky_elite: | there ya go : ) |
| [00:27:00] | simcop2387: | how would i tell mythsetup that the audio recording device is the second alsa card? |
| [00:28:00] | mortal5: | I've used it before with success |
| [00:28:00] | mortal5: | but it doesn't work now :^( |
| [00:28:00] | sparky_elite: | mortal5, seems likes your trying to output with mpeg4 codec? am I correct |
| [00:28:00] | mortal5: | yes |
| [00:29:00] | mortal5: | ffmpeg used to do it very nicely |
| [00:29:00] | sparky_elite: | mortal5, check the ffmpeg documentation for what packages it needs to output to mpeg4...assuming it doens't know it natively |
| [00:30:00] | mortal5: | thats the weird thing, it's native |
| [00:30:00] | sparky_elite: | hmmm weird |
| [00:30:00] | mortal5: | to that de/encoder |
| [00:30:00] | sparky_elite: | try xvid? |
| [00:30:00] | mortal5: | hang on I'm just gona reinstall it and try again |
| [00:31:00] | sparky_elite: | always a fun thing |
| [00:31:00] | mortal5: | lol now it does it |
| [00:31:00] | mortal5: | I guess something messed with the ffmpeg install |
| [00:31:00] | sparky_elite: | check to see if your bios is set to "random" mode |
| [00:32:00] | dampjam: | When I do a ./configure for mythtv it tells me lirc support no, what package do I have to install to enable lirc |
| [00:32:00] | sparky_elite: | probably lirc-dev |
| [00:32:00] | sparky_elite: | or liblirc-dev just apt-cache search lirc and look for dev |
| [00:32:00] | mortal5: | myth tv is too complicated for me, i just use mplayer :^) |
| [00:33:00] | sparky_elite: | wha? comon...mythtv is easy : ) |
| [00:33:00] | sparky_elite: | what can't ya get to work |
| [00:33:00] | mortal5: | oh i got it to work, I just didn't need all those features |
| [00:33:00] | sparky_elite: | which features? |
| [00:33:00] | mortal5: | couldn't figure out the schedualing etc etc |
| [00:33:00] | sparky_elite: | did you ever get the listings in? |
| [00:34:00] | sparky_elite: | bc once they are in its tha best to schedule recordings |
| [00:34:00] | mortal5: | plus, for some reason it reset my ivtv every time it started |
| [00:34:00] | sparky_elite: | mortal5, what distro are you using? |
| [00:34:00] | mortal5: | slack |
| [00:34:00] | sparky_elite: | is this a standalone box? |
| [00:34:00] | mortal5: | ? |
| [00:34:00] | mortal5: | desktop |
| [00:35:00] | sparky_elite: | oh so you actually use it besides TV? |
| [00:35:00] | mortal5: | lol i use it *for* my tv |
| [00:35:00] | sparky_elite: | cuz I setup knoppmyth on a standalone box |
| [00:35:00] | sparky_elite: | and haven't needed to setup a thing |
| [00:35:00] | mortal5: | heh |
| [00:35:00] | sparky_elite: | so I'm spoiled.. |
| [00:35:00] | mortal5: | well thx sparky_elite it's working now |
| [00:35:00] | sparky_elite: | no problemo |
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| [00:37:00] | dampjam: | yay – now I get to wait an hour for it to recompile |
| [00:37:00] | sparky_elite: | dampjam, welcome to the wonderful world of compiling |
| [00:37:00] | dampjam: | sparky_elite: nobody knows the wonderful world of compiling until you get gnome and xorg built from a stage0 gentoo install |
| [00:38:00] | dampjam: | on a PIII |
| [00:41:00] | sparky_elite: | dampjam, heh...did ya watch it compile and grow a beard or did ya leave it going and come back a week later? |
| [00:41:00] | dampjam: | I got it up to a router functionality level, then I started xorg/gnome and went to classes for 5 days before being able to see my mouse |
| [00:42:00] | sparky_elite: | hah...mmmm I lub my .deb packages |
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| [00:51:00] | Krazylegz: | dampjam: I've done that a few times. |
| [00:51:00] | Krazylegz: | I <3 my Gentoo. |
| [00:51:00] | Krazylegz: | Still, I have no idea why I insist on doing installs from stage 1. |
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| [00:55:00] | heatxsink: | anyone in here have a SnapStream Firefly remote? |
| [00:58:00] | sparky_elite: | nopers |
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| [00:59:00] | heatxsink: | damn |
| [00:59:00] | dmz: | hey y'all, one last question then i think i'll have it 100% operational :) when i go into some menus or apps (mythweb, ...) i lose the focus of my remote or keyboard. so I can't choose anything other than to his esc. any suggestions? |
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| [01:02:00] | dmz: | bbiab |
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| [02:17:00] | simcop2387: | hmm something is wrong with mythtv |
| [02:17:00] | simcop2387: | when i use it to watch tv the audio doesn't come on, but with tvtime it works fine |
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| [02:25:00] | kgbudz: | i just copied from vob files from dvd to my mythbox |
| [02:25:00] | kgbudz: | when i playback, its extremely blocky and the quality is quite poor |
| [02:25:00] | kgbudz: | unwatchable |
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| [02:30:00] | sparky_elite: | kgbudz, what program are you watching them with? |
| [02:30:00] | sparky_elite: | do you have an accellerated graphics card with correct drivers? |
| [02:31:00] | kgbudz: | mplayer |
| [02:31:00] | kgbudz: | yes, nvidia geforce4 |
| [02:31:00] | sparky_elite: | how many frames do you get per sec with glxgears? |
| [02:32:00] | sparky_elite: | have you tried mplayer with -hardframedrop option? |
| [02:32:00] | kgbudz: | im getting about 1500 FPS |
| [02:33:00] | sparky_elite: | thats decent |
| [02:33:00] | kgbudz: | no, im not doing any mplayer options |
| [02:33:00] | sparky_elite: | how much ram? |
| [02:33:00] | sparky_elite: | and whats the cpu? |
| [02:33:00] | kgbudz: | amd 2400 with 750mb ram |
| [02:33:00] | sparky_elite: | hmmm should be beefy enuff for just about anything |
| [02:34:00] | kgbudz: | i think i just need to tweak the mplayer params |
| [02:34:00] | sparky_elite: | try it with xine? |
| [02:34:00] | kgbudz: | dont have xine |
| [02:34:00] | sparky_elite: | apt-get install xine-ui |
| [02:34:00] | sparky_elite: | or equivilant for your distro |
| [02:35:00] | kgbudz: | not found |
| [02:36:00] | sparky_elite: | what distro? |
| [02:36:00] | kgbudz: | fedora |
| [02:37:00] | sparky_elite: | ah yes...you will need the rpms then...apt is for debian based distros.... |
| [02:37:00] | kgbudz: | i have apt-get |
| [02:37:00] | kgbudz: | its just saying xine is not found |
| [02:37:00] | sparky_elite: | so apt-cache search xine |
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| [02:59:00] | Eiko: | hi |
| [02:59:00] | Eiko: | can anyone recommend a USB video capture device for linux? |
| [03:00:00] | Eiko: | i want to build a mini-itx system but it only has one PCI slot, and I want to use a wireless adapter in that PCI |
| [03:04:00] | mchou: | Eiko: why not use wireless usb? :) |
| [03:04:00] | mchou: | makes much more sense to me. |
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| [03:05:00] | Eiko: | mchou: linux support for wireless usb is pretty much nonexistant |
| [03:05:00] | mchou: | Eiko: nah, you kidding me. |
| [03:05:00] | Eiko: | mchou: been there, done that, got the t-shirt |
| [03:05:00] | kilobit: | hey guys, i was wondering if anyone is using mythtv on freebsd? |
| [03:06:00] | mchou: | Eiko: really?? cause I know someone with a perfectly functional wireless usb set up. |
| [03:06:00] | mchou: | using usbnet |
| [03:07:00] | mchou: | and CDCEther back in 2.4 days :) |
| [03:07:00] | lotia: | folks anyone using the mysql 5 beta in their myth setup |
| [03:08:00] | Eiko: | mchou: i want 802.11g and none of that ndiswrapper crap |
| [03:08:00] | mchou: | Eiko: lol. You dont need ndiswrapper |
| [03:09:00] | mchou: | that's the whole point of usbnet. |
| [03:09:00] | Eiko: | mchou: let me look in the kernel setup with menuconfig |
| [03:09:00] | mchou: | sigh, some ppl really need to get a clue :) |
| [03:10:00] | Eiko: | yeah, that's why i'm here |
| [03:14:00] | kilobit: | ok |
| [03:15:00] | kilobit: | wow, anyways will this works on flavors of bsd? |
| [03:15:00] | kilobit: | for the backend? |
| [03:19:00] | xris: | kilobit: if v4l is ivtv works on bsd, then yes. but I don't think so. |
| [03:19:00] | xris: | s/is/or/ |
| [03:20:00] | kilobit: | i dont know jack about *ix really but i have messed around with bsd a little. I guess knoppmyth would be for me then |
| [03:21:00] | kilobit: | i do know mythserv is in the freebsd ports but im not sure what that is |
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| [03:27:00] | tzanger: | what are the requirements ot get the goom visualization? is ti OpenGL or SDL or FFTW< or all of the above? reading goom_core.c isn't really giving up any hints |
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| [03:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey guys whats the lowest cpu speed that I could run mythtv on? |
| [03:32:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: haha |
| [03:32:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: I thought you werent hurting fo HW :) |
| [03:32:00] | mchou: | for* |
| [03:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, dude you should see what I got for 10$ |
| [03:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I got 2 of them |
| [03:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://home.comcast.net/~slicerdicer/compaqthingies.jpg |
| [03:33:00] | mchou: | nice. |
| [03:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah they are at 266mhz right now |
| [03:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but I can bump them to 550 |
| [03:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | is 550 enough? |
| [03:33:00] | mchou: | what are those things? Tablets? |
| [03:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no not tablets |
| [03:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | they are a lcd screen with a base |
| [03:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its pretty slick |
| [03:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://realprogrammers.com/hack/IA-1/disassembly.html |
| [03:34:00] | mchou: | you get those on fleabay? |
| [03:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no neighbor |
| [03:35:00] | mchou: | nice. See if you can get me one :) |
| [03:36:00] | tzanger: | hmm it looks like I'm not the only one missing goom with 18.1 |
| [03:36:00] | mchou: | looks almost like a net appliance. |
| [03:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it is |
| [03:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, hehe |
| [03:36:00] | mchou: | what proc is in it? |
| [03:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | 266mhz k6 |
| [03:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but I can bump it to 550 |
| [03:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | is that enough for a front end? |
| [03:36:00] | mchou: | net appliance with phone jacks?? |
| [03:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah its old skewl |
| [03:37:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: no way jose. |
| [03:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | :/ |
| [03:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | not even at a low res? |
| [03:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | of 480xwhatever |
| [03:37:00] | mchou: | nope |
| [03:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hell... |
| [03:37:00] | mchou: | completely underpowered. |
| [03:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | shit |
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| [03:37:00] | mchou: | at least K6 had MMX though :) |
| [03:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well they are cool none the less |
| [03:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have to get microdrives to put in it |
| [03:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | they have no harddrive |
| [03:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its a 16mb flash thats inside IIRC |
| [03:38:00] | mchou: | you dont need a drive |
| [03:38:00] | mchou: | netboot |
| [03:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hmm |
| [03:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | how do you do that? |
| [03:39:00] | mchou: | dunno on that HW. |
| [03:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have to get it on there somewho too |
| [03:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats why I am going to get a microdrive |
| [03:39:00] | mchou: | with a real nic it'd be easy |
| [03:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I can do usb ethernet |
| [03:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I got the usb ethernet to do it |
| [03:39:00] | mchou: | yup. |
| [03:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | is that enough? |
| [03:40:00] | mchou: | enough for what? :) |
| [03:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | to get netboot on? |
| [03:41:00] | mchou: | dunno about usb net boot. Never tried. |
| [03:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hmm I will look into it |
| [03:41:00] | moodboom: | hey all – quick question – trying to rip a dvd using "excellent" – seems to rip to file fine, then dies on conversion |
| [03:41:00] | moodboom: | both "good" and "perfect" seem to work |
| [03:42:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: http://linux.boeldt.net/IA-1_Description.asp |
| [03:42:00] | moodboom: | where do i configure/check what "excellent" does, any ideas? |
| [03:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yep thats what I have mchou |
| [03:43:00] | mchou: | lol, it's a VIA K6 processor. I thought it was AMD. lol |
| [03:44:00] | mchou: | that's definitely no go juicewise. |
| [03:44:00] | mchou: | that like a i486 66Mhz :) |
| [03:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nah its a AMD k6 266mhz |
| [03:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I opened it |
| [03:44:00] | mchou: | 266Mhz K6–2 VIA Processor |
| [03:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | pulled the cpu out hehe |
| [03:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yes but I can put in the AMD 550k6 |
| [03:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | just got to "slightly" mod it for cooling |
| [03:45:00] | mchou: | doubtful....you need to change voltages and whatnot. |
| [03:45:00] | moodboom: | i have a k6 400 in the garage, it ran hot too |
| [03:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, just telling you what I read about it |
| [03:47:00] | rjune: | anybody know of a command line program to get playtime, and resolution of an mpeg video? |
| [03:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://www.hushtech.com/inventory/CPU_soc7_amd_k62_266.jpg |
| [03:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats whats in it mchou |
| [03:47:00] | mchou: | rjune: mplayer -identify :) |
| [03:48:00] | rjune: | mchou: thanks |
| [03:48:00] | rjune: | SlicerDicer-: I think Via changed the name of the cyrix 6x86 chips when they bought cyrix |
| [03:48:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: yeah, but can you mod voltage if you have proc upgrade? :) |
| [03:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont know mchou I will have to mess with the bios |
| [03:49:00] | mchou: | http://m4i.homeip.net/ |
| [03:49:00] | dampjam: | When I try to compile mythplugins – it says: main.cpp:1: error: CPU you selected does not support x86–64 instruction set |
| [03:49:00] | dampjam: | I have an amd64 processor |
| [03:50:00] | mchou: | dampjam: lol |
| [03:50:00] | dampjam: | any idea? |
| [03:50:00] | mchou: | look up gcc --help |
| [03:51:00] | mchou: | like march needs top be changed :) |
| [03:51:00] | dampjam: | I followed the directions in README – I did not try to change anything – all other software has compiled correctly |
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| [03:52:00] | dampjam: | mchou: I'm not too familiar with gcc flags, is there a page that would talk me thorugh doing it? |
| [03:52:00] | mchou: | for myth it's ./configure --help, iirc :) |
| [03:54:00] | dampjam: | ok... so I guess I"m not familiar with the root cause of this, is it saying that it's trying to compile x64 and I don't support it, or that the program itself does not support 64 bit extensions |
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| [04:00:00] | EL_Whistey: | Hello Chaps. |
| [04:01:00] | mchou: | EL_Whistey: no longer using the word "mate?" :) |
| [04:01:00] | mchou: | hehe |
| [04:01:00] | EL_Whistey: | LOL. Maaaaate |
| [04:01:00] | EL_Whistey: | Yeah, that was idiocy of a high order. |
| [04:01:00] | mchou: | man, I heard that segment on BBC. Funny as all get out :) |
| [04:01:00] | EL_Whistey: | Nearly every political program on telly is now calling *everybody* mate, mate. |
| [04:02:00] | EL_Whistey: | It's part of the conservative programme – Back To The 50s! |
| [04:02:00] | EL_Whistey: | I once phoned the PM's office, asked for his email address to email him a blast. |
| [04:02:00] | mchou: | you give him the stick? |
| [04:02:00] | EL_Whistey: | His receptionist refused, and when I complained, she said (and this is a direct quote) "Conform, or go away" |
| [04:03:00] | mchou: | haha |
| [04:03:00] | EL_Whistey: | And I thought ... fuck me, there's the motto of this government. |
| [04:03:00] | mchou: | sounds like GWB :) |
| [04:03:00] | EL_Whistey: | Howard is GWB's tapeworm. |
| [04:03:00] | mchou: | haha, well said |
| [04:03:00] | EL_Whistey: | He's so far up GWB, you can see Howard's face in GW's throat when he smiles. |
| [04:04:00] | EL_Whistey: | It's disgusting. I know a few people who are just leaving out of disgust. |
| [04:04:00] | mchou: | leaving where? the govt or au? |
| [04:04:00] | EL_Whistey: | au |
| [04:04:00] | EL_Whistey: | heading to eu |
| [04:04:00] | mchou: | haha |
| [04:05:00] | EL_Whistey: | I think nz would be a better bet. |
| [04:05:00] | mchou: | I'd head to ca myself :) |
| [04:05:00] | EL_Whistey: | At least the Canadians have a backbone, and a national identity. |
| [04:05:00] | EL_Whistey: | too bad about the climate. |
| [04:05:00] | mchou: | nothing wrong with the climate :) |
| [04:05:00] | EL_Whistey: | bbbrrrrrr |
| [04:06:00] | mchou: | lol, it hardly ever snows in vancouver :) |
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| [04:06:00] | EL_Whistey: | Yeah, I guess. Rains a bit I imagine. |
| [04:07:00] | mchou: | yup, does rain there :) |
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| [04:07:00] | EL_Whistey: | Well, there's a point. Our dam is down to 40% or something. |
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| [04:07:00] | EL_Whistey: | Dryest continent on the planet and they allow people to grow cotton and rice. |
| [04:07:00] | mchou: | haha! |
| [04:08:00] | EL_Whistey: | Yeah, it's insane. Apparently our ag is totally marginal. All of it. But the farmers have enormous clout. |
| [04:09:00] | EL_Whistey: | Something like 80% of all the economically valuable ag occurs in like 8% of the area under cultivation. |
| [04:09:00] | [vXv]: | does mythtv work with ati all-in-wonder cards? |
| [04:09:00] | EL_Whistey: | The rest is covertly subsidised. |
| [04:11:00] | rjune: | mchou: easy way to make mplayer only display that info and not try to play the movie? |
| [04:11:00] | mchou: | rjune: yeah. But I forget :) |
| [04:11:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [04:16:00] | EL_Whistey: | I'm on the latest svn version, and watching live tv is totally broken, but oddly recording still seems to happen. |
| [04:16:00] | rjune: | mchou: midentify script, I don't find it in fedora, you using something else? |
| [04:16:00] | EL_Whistey: | The frontend reports 99% signal, No Lock. |
| [04:16:00] | mchou: | rjune: huh?? |
| [04:16:00] | mchou: | it's not a script. it's mplayer command line. |
| [04:16:00] | rjune: | mchou: according to the man page, there's a script that does everything I'm wanting(display the info without the other crap) called midentify |
| [04:17:00] | EL_Whistey: | I also get ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/include/qt3/qvaluelist.h (373) |
| [04:17:00] | EL_Whistey: | Which, I presume, is not a good thing. |
| [04:17:00] | mchou: | rjune: hehe, beats me :) |
| [04:17:00] | rjune: | I was hoping you weren't using fedora |
| [04:17:00] | mchou: | nope, never used ffedora. |
| [04:17:00] | rjune: | great, can you do a locate midentify for me? :-) |
| [04:17:00] | mchou: | onlyt tried it once and said no thx :) |
| [04:18:00] | mchou: | buggier than roach motel. |
| [04:19:00] | rjune: | locate is buggier than a roach motel? |
| [04:19:00] | mchou: | no, fedora, silly |
| [04:19:00] | rjune: | ah |
| [04:19:00] | [vXv]: | :D |
| [04:19:00] | rjune: | yeah well, I'm not gonna argue that one. |
| [04:19:00] | mchou: | rjune: /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/MPlayer-1.0pre6/TOOLS/midentify |
| [04:19:00] | mchou: | hehe :) |
| [04:20:00] | rjune: | found it in CVS |
| [04:20:00] | mchou: | use the src. luke |
| [04:21:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [04:27:00] | EL_Whistey: | No mention of anything in the commit logs. OTOH, 'totally breaks your dvb card' |
| [04:27:00] | EL_Whistey: | is unlikely as a commit comment. :) |
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| [04:32:00] | EL_Whistey: | Ah, "*** glibc detected *** malloc(): memory corruption (fast): 0x081af18a ***" in the backend would do it. |
| [04:39:00] | moodboom: | found my "excellent" transcode command line – why tf does the whole dvd have to be ripped before it transcodes? can't it do that from the dvd instead of a file? or am i getting that wrong? |
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| [04:41:00] | EL_Whistey: | I'm definitely going to have to revert to a more stable version |
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| [04:51:00] | moodboom: | is there a better way to rip dvd's than the default mythtv setup? seems slow to read whole dvd then multi-pass transcode – but what the heck do i know :P anybody have custom jobs set up for that? |
| [04:52:00] | moodboom: | looks like transcode is supposed to be able to do on-the-fly import from dvd |
| [04:53:00] | moodboom: | guess i need to study up :P |
| [04:53:00] | dampjam: | Compiling mythbrowser shows up: tabview.h:14:32: mythtv/mythdialogs.h: No such file or directory – ideas? |
| [04:54:00] | [vXv]: | whats up with mythtv not working with ati aiw card is this true ? |
| [04:54:00] | dampjam: | true |
| [04:54:00] | dampjam: | different chipset – it's not supported |
| [04:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | [vXv]: IT's true |
| [04:56:00] | [vXv]: | sad |
| [04:56:00] | Chutt: | talk to ati about it |
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| [04:58:00] | [vXv]: | i did but they wont listen to a voice of one... prrr |
| [05:00:00] | [vXv]: | they say try Gatos out dated and unsupported crap... :( |
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| [05:24:00] | SpacemiND: | hi there |
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| [05:24:00] | SpacemiND: | does anyone has mythtv running under debian and with a skystar2 ? |
| [05:25:00] | Semhirage: | would running a myth-backend on a duron 700Mhz with 1GB ram be enough or is the cpu in the lacking dept.? |
| [05:25:00] | Semhirage: | tuner card is a pvr-150 |
| [05:26:00] | StillBob: | Semhirage: i think you would be ok |
| [05:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Semhirage: That would be plenty |
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| [05:29:00] | The_Tick: | Semhirage: afaik that card can't scale when recording, so it may end up being 2 gb per hour |
| [05:29:00] | The_Tick: | but otherwise ya |
| [05:29:00] | Semhirage: | 1TB of file storage should last me pretty good |
| [05:30:00] | The_Tick: | yea |
| [05:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | It goes faster than you think. Unless you plan to use it all for recordings :) |
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| [05:32:00] | Semhirage: | well i already have a pair of 200's and an 80GB |
| [05:32:00] | Semhirage: | so the file server would actually have 1280GB and my destkop would have 200GB |
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| [05:36:00] | StillBob: | lol |
| [05:36:00] | StillBob: | You know as long as you are spending a months wages on disk space you could buy a faster machine |
| [05:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | why bother? In a backend with hardware encoding cards diskspace is more valuable (unless you are transcoding to other formats of course) :) |
| [05:38:00] | StillBob: | GreyFoxx: clearly money is no object, why not go all out |
| [05:39:00] | Semhirage: | lol money is an object |
| [05:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | As long as the needs are met then it's about want. More space or more cpu |
| [05:40:00] | Semhirage: | i already have the 480GB of HDD, im ordering the 1TB in 250GB HDD cuz they dirt cheap =P |
| [05:40:00] | StillBob: | Semhirage: I agree, the drives are darn cheap |
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| [05:52:00] | Semhirage: | 250GB sata for 109 is awfully cheap in my book, good drives 8MB cache and a 5yr warranty |
| [05:53:00] | mchou: | bah, 300GB for $69 is even better |
| [05:54:00] | mchou: | 5 yr warranty too |
| [05:54:00] | moodboom: | sata? |
| [05:54:00] | mchou: | nope. |
| [05:54:00] | mchou: | ATA |
| [05:55:00] | Z-Morek: | quick question, what's the easiest bittorrent solution for my myth rig? |
| [05:55:00] | Semhirage: | mchou: where is that and what brand? |
| [05:55:00] | mchou: | Seagate, and CC |
| [05:55:00] | mchou: | a few wks ago though :) |
| [05:56:00] | Semhirage: | ahhh LOL i think i remember those |
| [05:56:00] | StillBob: | 100 in rebates each |
| [05:56:00] | Semhirage: | yea these are seagate 250's SATA im looking at |
| [05:56:00] | mchou: | had to pricematch frys too :) |
| [05:56:00] | Semhirage: | lol |
| [05:57:00] | mchou: | do not buy seagate sata drives :) |
| [05:57:00] | mchou: | them and silicon image cant agree on sata spec :) |
| [05:58:00] | Semhirage: | o.0 why not |
| [05:58:00] | Semhirage: | O.O, what kind of problems it causing? |
| [05:58:00] | mchou: | google seagate blacklist |
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| [06:00:00] | Semhirage: | =( so in other words, avoid a card with a sil sata controller? |
| [06:00:00] | mchou: | heh, that too :) |
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| [06:00:00] | mchou: | but it isn't clear who is right and who is wrong :) |
| [06:03:00] | Semhirage: | hrm, now who out there makes a decent 4–6 port raid sata card w/out silicon image chips on it |
| [06:03:00] | Semhirage: | =P |
| [06:03:00] | mchou: | nvidia? :) |
| [06:03:00] | mchou: | hehe |
| [06:04:00] | Semhirage: | heh, that would involve a big motherboard, cpu, ram upgrade on that system |
| [06:04:00] | Semhirage: | looks like adaptec work pretty well with the seagates |
| [06:04:00] | The_Tick: | get a raid array |
| [06:05:00] | dampjam: | I liked hte highpoint cards |
| [06:05:00] | The_Tick: | get this!: http://www.apple.com/xserve/raid/ |
| [06:06:00] | dampjam: | the only thing worse that a "my first computer by FisherPrice" is a wanna be server "my first computer" |
| [06:06:00] | The_Tick: | then don't shop at wherever you are shopping dampjam |
| [06:07:00] | dampjam: | yeah... apple.com ;) |
| [06:07:00] | mchou: | sigh, this really pisses me off. |
| [06:08:00] | The_Tick: | dampjam: it's actually priced cheaper than other raids i've seen at that size |
| [06:08:00] | The_Tick: | and it can run on whatever |
| [06:08:00] | dampjam: | kidding – I like apples, but the people that use them are easy targets |
| [06:08:00] | The_Tick: | heh |
| [06:08:00] | The_Tick: | yea, a lot are |
| [06:08:00] | dampjam: | The reason it's cheap is because most RAIDS are SCSI, apple uses SATA |
| [06:08:00] | Semhirage: | mchou: actually from the sounds of it, the new 7200,8 seagate drives are working with the sil_sata |
| [06:08:00] | The_Tick: | just like gentoo folks |
| [06:08:00] | The_Tick: | dampjam: yep |
| [06:08:00] | mchou: | Semhirage: it's possible. |
| [06:09:00] | dampjam: | I jsut built my 1.2 TB RAID – it's working out great so far |
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| [06:09:00] | mchou: | Semhirage: but I dont think you know till you open the box :) |
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| [06:09:00] | Semhirage: | mchou: worst case scenario i rma the silicon image card back for a slick highpoint or something nifty |
| [06:09:00] | Semhirage: | =P |
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| [06:48:00] | NightBird: | so uh.... I have my myth tv box almost compltetly ready for use... except I don't have a monitor to set it up with, which I need to at least use to setup the geforce so it uses the s-video out.. |
| [06:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | Why would you need a monitor to configure that ? |
| [06:51:00] | Wunsch: | NightBird: Do you not have SSH access to your Myth box? |
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| [06:56:00] | Wunsch: | My newly set up Myth box seems to have an odd front-end interface problem. When I hit Enter on a button (such as a "Next" button in the configuration), the button depresses, but it doesn't actually carry out the action. |
| [06:57:00] | Wunsch: | If the button has an accelorator key, such as Alt+N, I can hit that and it works. |
| [06:57:00] | Wunsch: | Does that make any sense? Has anybody run into that behaviour before? |
| [07:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | Wunsch: Try SHIFT-ENTER, does that make adifference ? |
| [07:05:00] | Wunsch: | Hmm, yeah, that works. |
| [07:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | Lemme guess, Fedora ? |
| [07:05:00] | Wunsch: | No, Mandrake. |
| [07:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ok, there was a bug a while back with the QT+Patches that were supplied with FEdora, no idea if it's the saem issue for you. I would try a different (or newer) version of QT |
| [07:07:00] | Wunsch: | It's quite possible that the guy who built the RPMs I'm using based them on the Fedora packages, and inherited the same bug. |
| [07:07:00] | Wunsch: | Gives me something to poke at, anyway. Thanks! |
| [07:08:00] | NightBird: | Wunsch, about the ssh, I don't know.. I installed ubuntu, and I haven't really messed with it sense, so I might and I might not, depending on if ubuntu has ssh enabled by default or not |
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| [07:35:00] | CCFL_Man: | anyone use mythtv on their xbox? |
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| [09:20:00] | dampjam: | I just setup a frontend and whenever I go to watch tv it says, "WARNING: something is currently using: /dev/dsp, retrying" then allows me to continue without audio |
| [09:23:00] | Randall64: | dampjam: Desktops can lock audio devices (try fuser -v /dev/dsp to see what's doing it) |
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| [09:25:00] | dampjam: | /dev/dsp mythuser 8254 f.... esd |
| [09:26:00] | Randall64: | There, just turn off audio. |
| [09:26:00] | dampjam: | ? |
| [09:28:00] | xris: | man, I love mythtv... heh. |
| [09:28:00] | dampjam: | I love it – except the documentation is terrible for the required libs needed |
| [09:29:00] | xris: | dampjam: been awhile since I've done a clean install, but apt-rpm worked great for me (and yum still does) |
| [09:29:00] | dampjam: | I'm running mythtv front/back on 3 different distributions, all of which have different versions of mythtv |
| [09:29:00] | Chutt: | compiling your own isn't exactly difficult. |
| [09:30:00] | mchou: | exactly :) |
| [09:30:00] | mchou: | and you only need to do it once for the 3 machines :) |
| [09:30:00] | dampjam: | heh, plugins gave me hell for the longest time |
| [09:30:00] | dampjam: | mchou: no – one is an xbox, one is an x64 |
| [09:30:00] | xris: | dampjam: "different versions of mythtv" aren't intended to work together. |
| [09:30:00] | dampjam: | xris: correct, that was my comment on why I needed to compile it myself |
| [09:31:00] | xris: | oh, the distros all had different versions available.. gotcha. |
| [09:31:00] | mchou: | souch had said arches :) |
| [09:31:00] | mchou: | should* |
| [09:31:00] | Chutt: | as far as i know, all the plugins have their requirements listed in their readme files |
| [09:32:00] | xris: | man, air2pc is slow to change channels |
| [09:32:00] | mchou: | yup. |
| [09:32:00] | xris: | odd, audio is only on the right channel |
| [09:32:00] | mchou: | man, that air2pc is some vapor HW :) |
| [09:32:00] | xris: | odd... pause, then unpause and I get left-audio for half a second. |
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| [09:34:00] | xris: | weird... started recording, and now I get stereo. |
| [09:34:00] | xris: | guess I need to update mythtv. |
| [09:36:00] | xris: | haha.. my poor network connection (or computer) just can't handle the stream. |
| [09:36:00] | mchou: | probably your comp. |
| [09:36:00] | xris: | must be the cpu |
| [09:36:00] | xris: | well, mythtv played it fine. |
| [09:36:00] | xris: | xine has issues. |
| [09:36:00] | mchou: | that's cause your xine doesnt have svmc enabled |
| [09:37:00] | mchou: | xvmc* |
| [09:37:00] | xris: | how would my ati 7500 have xvmc? |
| [09:37:00] | xris: | thought that was an nvidia thing |
| [09:37:00] | mchou: | or maybe libmpeg :) |
| [09:37:00] | xris: | nope, that's disabled |
| [09:38:00] | xris: | 1080i signal, though... not bad for a cooking show. heh. |
| [09:38:00] | mchou: | look good enough to eat? |
| [09:38:00] | xris: | Chutt: while you're here, is there a backend command to cancel an in-progress recording? |
| [09:38:00] | xris: | mchou: unfortunately for me, no.. veal. for you, probably. |
| [09:39:00] | mchou: | bah. veal==scrapie :) |
| [09:39:00] | mchou: | beef==mad cow :) |
| [09:39:00] | xris: | heh |
| [09:40:00] | mchou: | veggies==hepatitis :) |
| [09:40:00] | xris: | lol |
| [09:41:00] | mchou: | I'm not joking! |
| [09:41:00] | xris: | water-bound hep is extremely rare (bordering on onheard of) in the US. |
| [09:41:00] | xris: | now, in india..... |
| [09:41:00] | mchou: | fertilizer is NASTYYYY |
| [09:42:00] | xris: | um, buy organic? |
| [09:42:00] | xris: | grow my own? |
| [09:42:00] | mchou: | probably the only way to be "safe" |
| [09:42:00] | xris: | man, hd takes up some drive space |
| [09:43:00] | xris: | mchou: my wife and I have a decent-sized garden.. but one gets tired of zucchini after awhile. |
| [09:43:00] | xris: | (I do get lots of raspberries, though) |
| [09:43:00] | xris: | and will have tons of tomatoes in a few weeks. |
| [09:43:00] | mchou: | get a greenhouse :) |
| [09:43:00] | mchou: | or hydroponics :) |
| [09:44:00] | EL_Whistey: | Is the current svn mythtv unstable? |
| [09:44:00] | EL_Whistey: | Like, highly so? |
| [09:45:00] | xris: | EL_Whistey: rarely is |
| [09:45:00] | xris: | mchou: pondered putting in a hydroponic greenhouse... no real room |
| [09:45:00] | EL_Whistey: | I have real problems with the most current, and the versions for the last week or so. |
| [09:45:00] | EL_Whistey: | dvb-t, it's just failing totally. |
| [09:46:00] | EL_Whistey: | crashing, qt asserts, that kind of thing. |
| [09:46:00] | EL_Whistey: | I wish I hadn't upgraded :) |
| [09:48:00] | mchou: | EL_Whistey: no db backup? |
| [09:48:00] | EL_Whistey: | I have one from a few weeks back. |
| [09:49:00] | mchou: | always back up db prior to upgrade :) |
| [09:49:00] | EL_Whistey: | Ah :) |
| [09:49:00] | xris: | hmm, guess I should fix nuvexport so that it can handle 16:9 aspects... |
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| [09:51:00] | dampjam: | I wish gcc had a progress bar |
| [09:53:00] | mchou: | goddamn power supply.... |
| [09:53:00] | mchou: | whisper quiet my ass! |
| [09:55:00] | dampjam: | libcdaudio, flac, two things that are required by mythmusic but not documented |
| [09:55:00] | dampjam: | don't forget mad |
| [09:55:00] | dampjam: | *the other library, not the emotion |
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| [10:02:00] | dampjam: | mythbackend is generating a lot of " Can't enable VBI recording" what does that mean? |
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| [12:21:00] | barmeier: | hi |
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| [12:23:00] | barmeier: | Does anybody know how I can retrieve a all commercial starting fileoffsets from the mythtv database ? |
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| [13:55:00] | ashley3452: | hi, just a quick, terribly dumb question |
| [13:55:00] | ashley3452: | i anyone is here that is |
| [13:56:00] | ashley3452: | using mythvideo, and a keyboard |
| [13:56:00] | ashley3452: | mplayer starts up movie plays, but how do i control the movie ? |
| [13:56:00] | ashley3452: | ie pause, stop, ffw etc ? |
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| [14:49:00] | stoffel: | barmeier: after loading the comm. flaglist into the cutlist, this is available in the recorded.cutlist field of the database. dunno where mythcommflag stores this info though |
| [14:51:00] | k-man_: | is it possible to add and change the mythmusic visualisations? |
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| [14:58:00] | barmeier: | <stoffel>hmm, my cutlist is always empty :( but the marks of type 4 and 5 are set, but the offset field is empty |
| [15:01:00] | barmeier: | btw: Iam using the mvpmc for the hauppauge mvp, the command set is extremly stripped. Is there a shell command to transfer the comm.flaglist into the cutlist ?? |
| [15:13:00] | k-man_: | Agrajag-, are you awake? |
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| [16:13:00] | Chacabaou: | How do I fetch an older revision with svn? |
| [16:18:00] | Tommck: | don't know |
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| [17:02:00] | simcop2387: | anyone awake? probably not |
| [17:03:00] | Tommck: | yes |
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| [17:04:00] | laga: | re |
| [17:04:00] | simcop2387: | Tommck: know anything about using mythtv with bt878 cards? the audio on mine doesn't seem to work with mythtv, through the digital encoder (btaudio driver) or through the passthrough when using mythtv, it works fine through the passthrough with tvtime |
| [17:05:00] | Tommck: | not really |
| [17:06:00] | Tommck: | I used a bt878 card for about a week. |
| [17:06:00] | Tommck: | the video was so crappy, I removed it |
| [17:06:00] | simcop2387: | heh |
| [17:06:00] | simcop2387: | i can get decent video off mine, its not dvd quality but its vcr quality |
| [17:06:00] | simcop2387: | i'm incredibly tempted to replace it with a hauppage pvr150 soon |
| [17:06:00] | Tommck: | it was horrible compared to me 2 HD3000 cards |
| [17:07:00] | Tommck: | I bought a pvr-500 :) |
| [17:07:00] | simcop2387: | yea i wouldn't use it if you've got something better |
| [17:07:00] | simcop2387: | i can't afford a pvr-500 |
| [17:07:00] | simcop2387: | and what exactly would a 500 give me over a 150? |
| [17:08:00] | Tommck: | well... you can always buy the pvr-150 and another one later, if you want |
| [17:08:00] | Tommck: | 2 tuners |
| [17:08:00] | Tommck: | a 500 is basically 2 150s |
| [17:08:00] | simcop2387: | so the 500 has two tuners on it built in? cool |
| [17:08:00] | Tommck: | yes |
| [17:09:00] | simcop2387: | when i get out of college and get a decent paying job i'm going to build a large mythtv box for all of my tv/video needs two 500's would probably be all i'd ever need |
| [17:09:00] | Tommck: | you in the US? |
| [17:10:00] | simcop2387: | yea |
| [17:10:00] | Tommck: | well... you may want HD cards someday too |
| [17:11:00] | Tommck: | here's my current setup: http://tommck.jodoshared.com/blogs/toms_mytht . . . icles/3.aspx |
| [17:11:00] | simcop2387: | last i looked i hadn't seen any decent hd cards yet, when i can recieve it in my area and the cards come down in price i'd be tempted to get one |
| [17:11:00] | Tommck: | what would make it a "decent" card?? |
| [17:11:00] | simcop2387: | good driver support, and a bit less than $250 (i'm cheap) :) |
| [17:12:00] | Tommck: | $250? they don't cost that much |
| [17:12:00] | simcop2387: | what i like about the 150's is that they are capable of hardware encoding and they are relatively cheap |
| [17:12:00] | Tommck: | they're about $160 or so |
| [17:12:00] | simcop2387: | really, they were when i checked a while ago |
| [17:12:00] | simcop2387: | cool |
| [17:13:00] | simcop2387: | maybe i'll look into those then when i decide that i've got the money to build it |
| [17:13:00] | Tommck: | I'm not sure if the Fusion HDTV cards are supported, but if they are, they're only $100 |
| [17:13:00] | simcop2387: | hmm |
| [17:13:00] | simcop2387: | cool |
| [17:14:00] | simcop2387: | i'd have to setup lirc though (and get a wireless keyboard) |
| [17:14:00] | Tommck: | why lirc? |
| [17:14:00] | simcop2387: | too many people i know would get completely confused by having to use the keyboard to change the channel |
| [17:14:00] | Tommck: | so... use an infrared keyboard...and a learning remote |
| [17:14:00] | Tommck: | that's what I do. |
| [17:15:00] | simcop2387: | hmm |
| [17:15:00] | simcop2387: | interesting idea... |
| [17:15:00] | Tommck: | yeah... ZERO configuration :) |
| [17:15:00] | simcop2387: | well you have to configure the remote :) |
| [17:15:00] | Tommck: | my keyboard was < $20 |
| [17:15:00] | Tommck: | well, you have to do that anyway, right? :) |
| [17:15:00] | simcop2387: | heh |
| [17:16:00] | simcop2387: | i just wish i could figure out whats up with the audio on my card, i want to be able to record saturday morning cartoons for me |
| [17:16:00] | Tommck: | what do you get for audio? nothing? |
| [17:17:00] | simcop2387: | yep |
| [17:17:00] | Tommck: | do you know if your card uses btaudio? |
| [17:17:00] | simcop2387: | its like mythtv doesn't tell the card it needs it or something |
| [17:17:00] | simcop2387: | it can use btaudio, but i just get nothing out of that too |
| [17:17:00] | simcop2387: | but with tvtime it works fine |
| [17:18:00] | Tommck: | maybe, if you use strace to run tvtime and look through all the messages, you might be able to see something that shows what device it uses for audio |
| [17:18:00] | Tommck: | maybe you're not using the right audio device in Myth |
| [17:18:00] | Tommck: | I remember having to set a special input device for audio for that card in myth so it would use btaudio in |
| [17:19:00] | simcop2387: | it uses the pass through to my sound card, doesn't read any audio, and with mythtv neither the passthrough or the btaudio device has anything but silence |
| [17:19:00] | Tommck: | well, the passthrough is wrong, as far as I know... |
| [17:19:00] | Tommck: | it will not be synched with the video, right? |
| [17:20:00] | Tommck: | because the video is converted to mpeg by mythtv when you watch it. so, you need to have the btaudio set up too |
| [17:21:00] | simcop2387: | i used the passthrough to see if its even giving any audio, i've got two sound cards and i've used that setup before to have one record and the other play back fine |
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| [17:22:00] | Tommck: | you say tvtime works? where is it getting it's audio? |
| [17:23:00] | Tommck: | you should look in your dmesg output for where the btaudio device is and capture some of that to disk. Then, play it back. |
| [17:23:00] | Tommck: | this will let you know if it is working or not |
| [17:23:00] | Tommck: | I have to go... my father-in-law just dropped by |
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| [17:50:00] | beixaith: | The Sony VPL-HS51 is looking better than the Panasonic PT-AE700 for htpc use. |
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| [17:56:00] | braniff: | last time i looked, hdtv mythtv was kind of nonexistent. Has that changed at all ? |
| [17:56:00] | beixaith: | That must have been a while ago. |
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| [18:00:00] | braniff: | it was |
| [18:01:00] | braniff: | maybe 8 months ago |
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| [18:08:00] | gf: | question: my new grey haup remote works in mythtv, but when i watch a video in mplayer it fails to respond |
| [18:09:00] | gf: | any ideas? there are mplayer lines in my config (downloaded from jarods guide) |
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| [18:18:00] | beixaith: | I doubt mythtv exerts any control over mplayer once it starts. |
| [18:19:00] | gf: | tru but i bet the experts have it working |
| [18:19:00] | beixaith: | I think you can make lirc generate arbitrary keystrokes (like 'q') |
| [18:19:00] | gf: | ok i'll look into that |
| [18:19:00] | gf: | altho |
| [18:20:00] | gf: | it would be doing the q all the time |
| [18:20:00] | gf: | so when im in mythtv it would still be doing q |
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| [18:20:00] | beixaith: | Assuming you have enough buttons to program it'll be okay. |
| [18:21:00] | beixaith: | Maybe you can use vlc or xine instead of mplayer (those support lirc I think) |
| [18:27:00] | gf: | do u have a remote beixaith? |
| [18:27:00] | gf: | do you know if theres a sepecial line u have to add to the default player settings to enable remote usage? |
| [18:30:00] | CCFL_Man: | can lirc use the microshat IR receiver? |
| [18:30:00] | gf: | ok i figured it out |
| [18:31:00] | gf: | the config is capslock sensitve apparently |
| [18:31:00] | braniff: | most things in linux are case-sensitive |
| [18:32:00] | braniff: | so what's the word on hd-capable capture cards these days ?? |
| [18:32:00] | CCFL_Man: | braniff: air2pc |
| [18:33:00] | CCFL_Man: | only two hdtv cards work with linux, it seems |
| [18:33:00] | ** braniff googles for air2pc ** | |
| [18:34:00] | CCFL_Man: | i want to dual boot from media center edition and mythtv |
| [18:35:00] | braniff: | hmm...so is there a way to capture hd from some kind of cable ( svideo or coax output)? |
| [18:35:00] | braniff: | CCFL_Man, grub is what you need |
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| [18:35:00] | braniff: | install windows FIRST and then install linux |
| [18:36:00] | ** braniff triple boots winxp, debian and fedora ** | |
| [18:37:00] | braniff: | grub is the bootloader |
| [18:37:00] | CCFL_Man: | braniff: yeah, always install windows first |
| [18:37:00] | CCFL_Man: | braniff: how is grub installed, anyway? |
| [18:38:00] | braniff: | when you install your linux distro, there will probably be an option to install grub |
| [18:39:00] | braniff: | it depends on your distro |
| [18:39:00] | braniff: | fedora (jarod's guide) makes it really easy |
| [18:39:00] | CCFL_Man: | i only use debian though |
| [18:40:00] | CCFL_Man: | apt-get install grub doesn't seem to install it on the bootloader |
| [18:40:00] | CCFL_Man: | with xp and debian, i could use lilo |
| [18:40:00] | CCFL_Man: | grub is prettier and better though |
| [18:40:00] | braniff: | yeah you could |
| [18:40:00] | syle: | http://64.70.241.60/Bodybouncer.wmv |
| [18:41:00] | braniff: | there is probably some kind of grub install script to write to the boot area of your harddrive |
| [18:42:00] | CCFL_Man: | grub probably comes with it, yeah |
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| [18:42:00] | braniff: | the people in #linuxhelp would be able to help you more i'm sure |
| [18:42:00] | braniff: | with grub |
| [18:42:00] | CCFL_Man: | braniff: you use media center edition? |
| [18:42:00] | CCFL_Man: | i want to try it |
| [18:42:00] | Semhirage: | CCFL_Man: grub has a command-prompt where you can setup and install grub to the MBR |
| [18:42:00] | braniff: | no, just plain xp |
| [18:43:00] | CCFL_Man: | Semhirage: oh, ok, i never thought of that, thanks |
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| [18:43:00] | braniff: | what all does media center edition offer ? |
| [18:43:00] | CCFL_Man: | braniff: i wonder if the media center remote receiver will work with myth |
| [18:44:00] | CCFL_Man: | it offers microshat DRM and no where near the functionality of mythtv |
| [18:44:00] | ** braniff wonders what the point is then ** | |
| [18:44:00] | braniff: | heh |
| [18:45:00] | gf: | and it costs money |
| [18:45:00] | braniff: | gf, heh not if you warez it :P |
| [18:45:00] | gf: | :o |
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| [18:45:00] | CCFL_Man: | gf: not if you warez it :P |
| [18:45:00] | gf: | i dont warez anymore after i got an email from my isp.... |
| [18:45:00] | CCFL_Man: | but no speak of warez here |
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| [18:46:00] | dampjam: | Whenever I try to play a recorded program, it's jerky and when I look at the terminal output it says, "Prebuffering pause" |
| [18:46:00] | braniff: | gf, email from your isp ? |
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| [18:46:00] | gf: | yea |
| [18:46:00] | gf: | use ur imagination |
| [18:47:00] | ** braniff has never received any emails from his isp ** | |
| [18:47:00] | braniff: | oh well |
| [18:47:00] | CCFL_Man: | dampjam: mplayer did that when playing an windows media stream, i really don't know why |
| [18:47:00] | gf: | i think the torrent i used was one that was setup by the company that made the software |
| [18:47:00] | CCFL_Man: | my isp lets me l33ch as much warez as i want |
| [18:47:00] | braniff: | lol |
| [18:47:00] | gf: | they then would gather ur info and send an email to my isp |
| [18:47:00] | dampjam: | CCFL_Man: It was the first timeI had mythtv record something, any ideas of how to fix it? |
| [18:47:00] | braniff: | oh that sucks |
| [18:48:00] | gf: | yea |
| [18:48:00] | gf: | so since then |
| [18:48:00] | CCFL_Man: | dampjam: not me, sorry |
| [18:48:00] | gf: | i've been very careful and wary of donig such acts |
| [18:48:00] | CCFL_Man: | gf: what software was it? |
| [18:48:00] | travolta: | don't copy that floppy! |
| [18:48:00] | braniff: | caution is advised, that's for damn sure |
| [18:48:00] | gf: | mathcad |
| [18:48:00] | gf: | stuff that i had gotten for free thru school via a network license, but it was running very slow |
| [18:49:00] | CCFL_Man: | ahh |
| [18:49:00] | gf: | so i decided to, ya know |
| [18:49:00] | gf: | ;) |
| [18:49:00] | CCFL_Man: | gf: despiute what they tell you, there is nothing wrong with warez |
| [18:49:00] | burly: | has anyone run into problems with LIRC on Gentoo where lirc wants /dev/lirc and the device is actually /dev/lirc/X |
| [18:50:00] | braniff: | as long as you don't get caught |
| [18:50:00] | CCFL_Man: | braniff: right |
| [18:50:00] | braniff: | mathcad is one awesome piece of software i must say |
| [18:51:00] | Semhirage: | burly: on my gentoo system the lirc device is /dev/lirc0 |
| [18:52:00] | braniff: | burly: could link /dev/lirc to /dev/lirc/X |
| [18:52:00] | burly: | heh, actually i can't use /dev/lirc is a directory if the device is in /dev/lirc/0 |
| [18:52:00] | burly: | Semhirage: are you running devfs or ..? |
| [18:52:00] | Semhirage: | udev |
| [18:52:00] | burly: | ahh |
| [18:53:00] | Semhirage: | devfs is waaaaaaaay deprecated |
| [18:53:00] | braniff: | oh yeah |
| [18:53:00] | burly: | yeah i don't use devfs |
| [18:53:00] | Semhirage: | omgosh its noon |
| [18:54:00] | Semhirage: | i got errands to run |
| [18:54:00] | burly: | but that could explain the reason why you have /dev/lirc0 and I have /dev/lirc/0 |
| [18:56:00] | CCFL_Man: | so, lirc is the remote control program? |
| [18:56:00] | travolta: | if youre using udev, edit your udev rules |
| [18:56:00] | CCFL_Man: | shouldn't it look for a device at /dev/ttySX? |
| [18:57:00] | travolta: | or edit your lirc config files |
| [18:58:00] | gf: | is there a way to turn off mythtv's screensaver? |
| [18:58:00] | burly: | CCFL_Man: yes, its the remote control program |
| [18:58:00] | burly: | travolta: im looking into that now, thanks |
| [19:00:00] | travolta: | i would have thgouth on gentoo it would be so easy to install mythtv |
| [19:01:00] | travolta: | always hear ppl say emerge this and that |
| [19:01:00] | braniff: | emerge mythtv |
| [19:02:00] | gf: | i have a pvr250, do i want to use hardware xvmc mpeg decoding? |
| [19:03:00] | CCFL_Man: | ahh |
| [19:03:00] | burly: | yeah, its just emerge mythtv |
| [19:03:00] | burly: | portage is a get thing |
| [19:04:00] | CCFL_Man: | so no windows drivers for air2pc cards? |
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| [19:34:00] | gf: | anyone know the size of the images that mythvideo uses? |
| [19:35:00] | Krazylegz: | What do you mean? Width x height? |
| [19:35:00] | gf: | yes |
| [19:35:00] | gf: | like the video covers |
| [19:35:00] | Krazylegz: | You can use whatever you want and it will scale it. |
| [19:35:00] | gf: | i need to make some custom ones |
| [19:35:00] | gf: | well in order for it to not scale it poorly |
| [19:35:00] | gf: | do you know the ratio? |
| [19:35:00] | Krazylegz: | No, I've never looked it up. |
| [19:35:00] | Krazylegz: | I'm curious, though. |
| [19:36:00] | gf: | i'll just go find a picture of a dvd cover |
| [19:36:00] | gf: | and use those dimensions |
| [19:36:00] | gf: | makes sense right? |
| [19:37:00] | Krazylegz: | Sure. |
| [19:39:00] | wasabi: | Is there a way to remove the tuning funcationality from myth? |
| [19:40:00] | wasabi: | Like, I had this great idea to use myth as an itnerface for my custom in-car computer. It's got everything it needs... big garish touchable buttons. Simple media-based UI. |
| [19:40:00] | stoffel: | configuring an external channel changer script might work |
| [19:40:00] | stoffel: | oh, then simply don't use the tv features |
| [19:40:00] | wasabi: | Basically all I need are music/video playing funcality. |
| [19:41:00] | wasabi: | Want to hide the UI for it. |
| [19:41:00] | Krazylegz: | Maybe a way to take it out of the menu? |
| [19:41:00] | stoffel: | edit the .xml files |
| [19:41:00] | wasabi: | Hmm. Gotta look into that then. |
| [19:42:00] | gf: | i'm having problems getting channel icons coming up, i get a parsing error for iconmap.xml |
| [19:42:00] | wasabi: | Actually watching broadcast TV in the car would be pretty slick. hahah |
| [19:42:00] | burly: | that would be awesome |
| [19:42:00] | wasabi: | Yeah that would. N/m! UI stays! |
| [19:43:00] | wasabi: | I'd need to get it somehow GPS hooked up so it knew what channel listings to pull. |
| [19:45:00] | gf: | need help on channel icons plz |
| [19:48:00] | burly: | btw, what do you guys recommend for the filesystem for a MythTV backend |
| [19:48:00] | burly: | i see JFS and XFS are recommended by mythtv.org |
| [19:48:00] | burly: | i have been using ReiserFS for most everything, but it's delete speed is horrible |
| [19:49:00] | xris: | burly: personally, I prefer xfs |
| [19:49:00] | xris: | /boot set to ext3 (for grub), and xfs for the rest |
| [19:50:00] | burly: | yeah i use ext2 on /boot, ReiserFS on / but was thinking of using either XFS or JFS for /video |
| [19:50:00] | gf: | what folder can i find the myth/contrib direcotry? |
| [19:50:00] | burly: | any particular reason you prefer XFS over JFS xris ? |
| [19:51:00] | burly: | i will be running /video as an LVM partition on 3x 250GB 16MB 7200RPM SATA drives in RAID5 |
| [19:51:00] | burly: | this will be on the my server which will function as a backend |
| [19:51:00] | xris: | didn't know about jfs at the time (still don't really know anything about it) |
| [19:51:00] | burly: | oh ok, word |
| [19:51:00] | xris: | haven't heard anything bad about it, though.. |
| [19:52:00] | xris: | I guess you just pick whether you like ibm or sgi. heh. |
| [19:52:00] | burly: | yeah, it seems to be more a matter of preference/religion right now than objective reasoning |
| [19:52:00] | burly: | haha, yeah |
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| [19:53:00] | xris: | could be. |
| [19:53:00] | xris: | same with most things in linux-land, I guess. |
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| [19:54:00] | burly: | yeah |
| [19:55:00] | burly: | xris: have you looked into this "Realtime SUpport" option for XFS? |
| [19:57:00] | xris: | nope |
| [19:58:00] | wasabi: | The choice of file system for a non-enterprise app is pretty much unimportant at this point. |
| [19:58:00] | wasabi: | the only question really is "do you want a data journal?" |
| [19:58:00] | xris: | wasabi: man, that's the ONE requirement I have.... |
| [19:58:00] | burly: | yeah i definitely want a journaling filesystem |
| [19:59:00] | wasabi: | well, xfs doesn't do data journaling. |
| [19:59:00] | wasabi: | only metadata |
| [19:59:00] | wasabi: | I think only ext3 does data journaling |
| [19:59:00] | burly: | but this backend may grow to support 4 or 5 tuners and frontends |
| [19:59:00] | burly: | XFS is a journaling filesystem |
| [19:59:00] | burly: | as is JFS |
| [19:59:00] | wasabi: | metadata journaled, yes. |
| [19:59:00] | wasabi: | not data. |
| [19:59:00] | wasabi: | XFS should never totally fry because of a power outage for instance, but your files might. |
| [19:59:00] | wasabi: | I've had it happen many times. |
| [20:00:00] | wasabi: | Do an apt-get update, loose power in the middle... half of the effect files are filled with null data. |
| [20:00:00] | burly: | so XFS doesn't do atomic operations like ReiserFS ? |
| [20:00:00] | wasabi: | Metadata, yes. |
| [20:00:00] | wasabi: | The file will either be there with the riight size, or not. |
| [20:00:00] | xris: | wasabi: I've had ext3 do worse (fry the filesystem) |
| [20:00:00] | wasabi: | But the data IN the file might be corrupt. |
| [20:01:00] | burly: | well thats bogus |
| [20:01:00] | wasabi: | xris, i haven't yet... but I've been using XFS for years. |
| [20:01:00] | wasabi: | Not much experience with long term ext3 maintence. |
| [20:02:00] | xris: | wasabi: like I said, I avoid ext3 now when I can. only use it for /boot |
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| [20:03:00] | burly: | well, XFS, JFS and ReiserFS are all metadata-only journalers |
| [20:04:00] | burly: | so that would leave only ext3 as a full blown journaling FS |
| [20:05:00] | burly: | the reason I want to make sure I pick the right FS for /video is because this backend , while initially only supporting 2 standard def tuners and 2 frontends, will eventually grow to support 4 or more tuners and 5 or more frontends |
| [20:05:00] | burly: | but it seems that neither XFS or JFS have any major things that make them perfect or terrible for it |
| [20:05:00] | burly: | im not concerned about file data integrity on /video like I am on /data |
| [20:07:00] | xris: | burly: biggest issue with ext3 is that it's SLOW for large files... |
| [20:07:00] | xris: | can take 5+ seconds to delete a couple-gig file. |
| [20:07:00] | burly: | yes =[ |
| [20:07:00] | burly: | which is not a problem for /data for me, but for /video that would be problematic |
| [20:08:00] | burly: | ReiserFS has similar deletion issues when compared to JFS and XFS |
| [20:08:00] | burly: | because of the way it handles inode entry update in the freelist |
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| [20:37:00] | Shanee: | hello, I have some trouble with mythtv-svn and dbox. Am I right here? |
| [20:37:00] | Shanee: | Sorry for my english, I'm from germany |
| [20:38:00] | laga: | well |
| [20:38:00] | beixaith: | We can't forgive you for being from germnany. |
| [20:38:00] | laga: | try #mythtv-de then ;) |
| [20:38:00] | Shanee: | laga: I tried it some times, but there where nobody in the channel... |
| [20:39:00] | Shanee: | oh, now there is somebody in #mythtv-de, thanks andy bye! |
| [20:40:00] | beixaith: | I wonder what projectors do with rj-45 ports. |
| [20:40:00] | XAD|onoff: | beix?? |
| [20:41:00] | beixaith: | Yes, it is I. |
| [20:41:00] | laga: | beixaith: are you going to make sense soon? |
| [20:42:00] | beixaith: | laga: When I stop making sense? |
| [20:43:00] | kigam: | this is confusing :) |
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| [20:44:00] | kigam: | so does the pc hdtv 3000 card take digital cable directly? |
| [20:48:00] | kigam: | anyone know what "Error: Desired subchannel not specified in freqid "3", Using 1" means? or "HD5 Error: could not obtain sync" |
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| [20:53:00] | XAD|onoff: | biex, if you think about HP then they use it for control over the network (using a webclient) or use their Remote Asset Management Software... not really for SOHO use ;-) |
| [20:54:00] | beixaith: | XAD: I'm checking out a Sony right now. I wouldn't expect that from them. |
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| [20:54:00] | CCFL_Man: | beixaith: rgb video over cat 5 |
| [20:54:00] | beixaith: | hmm, really? |
| [20:54:00] | CCFL_Man: | yeah |
| [20:55:00] | beixaith: | For what kind of quality? |
| [20:55:00] | CCFL_Man: | XGA |
| [20:55:00] | beixaith: | Would that be the equivalent of composite? |
| [20:55:00] | beixaith: | <-- just getting out of s-video land |
| [20:56:00] | CCFL_Man: | no, actual high bandwidth vga video |
| [20:56:00] | beixaith: | neat |
| [20:56:00] | CCFL_Man: | it's still analog, but uses differential signal transmission |
| [20:57:00] | beixaith: | What other devices speak it? |
| [20:57:00] | beixaith: | "HS51 is equipped with an Ethernet connector for complete AV system integration via IP Control Protocol." |
| [20:57:00] | CCFL_Man: | not sure |
| [20:58:00] | CCFL_Man: | oh, that |
| [20:58:00] | CCFL_Man: | thats video over ip |
| [20:58:00] | CCFL_Man: | either than or just a way to control it |
| [20:58:00] | XAD|onoff: | beix, VPL-PX41... "Control: Connect to and control the projector over a LAN using the RJ45 connection." |
| [20:58:00] | beixaith: | It sounds more like the proprietary link protocols you get if you buy all your components from one vendor. |
| [20:58:00] | XAD|onoff: | ahh. HS51.... |
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| [20:59:00] | beixaith: | Buying a projector is hard. |
| [20:59:00] | CCFL_Man: | CRT will give you the best video, hands down |
| [20:59:00] | beixaith: | I'm looking to stay under $2500 :) |
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| [21:00:00] | beixaith: | There seem to be some decent lcd's and even some dlp's in that range. |
| [21:00:00] | beixaith: | The Panasonic I liked crops on the hdmi port :( |
| [21:00:00] | CCFL_Man: | hdtv crt monitors are the cheapest infact and give the best video quality, but they can only get so big |
| [21:01:00] | beixaith: | yup, I'm thinking > 100" would be nice |
| [21:03:00] | beixaith: | This model at least has dvi. |
| [21:03:00] | CCFL_Man: | using a mythbox with dvi output? |
| [21:03:00] | beixaith: | That's the plan. |
| [21:04:00] | CCFL_Man: | you going to have a server and use a frontend? |
| [21:04:00] | beixaith: | nope, one athlon64, but I'm still not sure how I'll get video in :) |
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| [21:04:00] | beixaith: | I guess capturing from a firewire box isn't good for livetv |
| [21:05:00] | CCFL_Man: | i'm going to have a server with a pvr-500 card, dvb-s card, and an hdtv card |
| [21:06:00] | beixaith: | dvb-s card does what for you? |
| [21:06:00] | CCFL_Man: | if you are in the US, that is youyr best bet |
| [21:06:00] | CCFL_Man: | satellite tv |
| [21:06:00] | CCFL_Man: | free to air |
| [21:06:00] | beixaith: | ahh |
| [21:07:00] | Darby: | Hey all. I just switched my channel feed from cable to digital cable. It pulled the new listings fine, and everything seems to work fine with one exception. When watching live tv, the OSD doesn't have the channel information. When I try to change channels, scanning channels or entering a number doesn't do anything. Any ideas? |
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| [21:07:00] | beixaith: | Darby: you ran mythfilldatabase too? |
| [21:07:00] | CCFL_Man: | how do you get comcast digital cable into mythtv? |
| [21:07:00] | Darby: | yes. |
| [21:08:00] | Darby: | The progream guide is all updated |
| [21:08:00] | beixaith: | CCFL: cable box |
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| [21:08:00] | CCFL_Man: | beixaith: seems like the only way |
| [21:09:00] | beixaith: | I can only tune a handful of channels from comcast analog w/o a box :( |
| [21:09:00] | CCFL_Man: | cable tv is crap anyway |
| [21:09:00] | CCFL_Man: | but directv rapes you as well |
| [21:10:00] | beixaith: | yeah, but I can't do satellite here |
| [21:10:00] | beixaith: | I guess their digital streams are much higher quality. |
| [21:10:00] | CCFL_Man: | cable tv has high prices, directv has decent prices with contracts |
| [21:10:00] | CCFL_Man: | not really |
| [21:10:00] | beixaith: | I heard the bitrate in general is higher than cable. |
| [21:10:00] | beixaith: | I'm sure it varies by provider and area though. |
| [21:11:00] | CCFL_Man: | with crapadelphia, it's digital cable is a bit higher than directv |
| [21:12:00] | beixaith: | It stinks that you have to capture digital cable in an analog way. |
| [21:12:00] | CCFL_Man: | i know |
| [21:12:00] | CCFL_Man: | same with directv |
| [21:12:00] | beixaith: | I wonder if directivo does it all digitally. |
| [21:12:00] | CCFL_Man: | it does |
| [21:13:00] | CCFL_Man: | not sure if it can share with a mythbox |
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| [21:14:00] | CCFL_Man: | i have directivo |
| [21:14:00] | beixaith: | Well, you can get the video out, but I doubt anyone has rigged up mythtv to be smart about programming. |
| [21:14:00] | CCFL_Man: | not sure |
| [21:18:00] | pregier: | uh, this may be a stupid question or a FAQ, but does anyone here know the lowest acceptable bandwidth for decent quality over mythtv and/or mythstreamtv? i'm still a major n00b in these parts... |
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| [21:19:00] | beixaith: | I know 802.11b wasn't fast enough. |
| [21:20:00] | pregier: | dang; that's part of what i'm wondering... |
| [21:20:00] | pregier: | is that why my 800mhz laptop sucks with myth then? |
| [21:20:00] | pregier: | or is that slow for myth in general? |
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| [21:21:00] | beixaith: | pregier: Well, are you streaming giant mpeg-2 or small mpeg-4? |
| [21:21:00] | beixaith: | smaller |
| [21:21:00] | pregier: | that was prolly mpeg-2; it was a while ago, with default config... |
| [21:21:00] | beixaith: | pregier: It's fine for playback only, especially if you turn off some gui options. |
| [21:21:00] | beixaith: | pregier: What kind of card do you capture with? |
| [21:22:00] | pregier: | ati tv wonder apallingly-cheap edition |
| [21:23:00] | beixaith: | I think those are software-only, so you were probably using rtjpeg, which is quite large. |
| [21:23:00] | travolta: | get a hardware mpeg2 card or something |
| [21:23:00] | pregier: | aha; that helps |
| [21:23:00] | beixaith: | mpeg-2 is pretty big too |
| [21:23:00] | pregier: | like hauppage? what about higher-end ati's? |
| [21:23:00] | travolta: | 800mhz pc can handle it with mpeg2 hardware card |
| [21:24:00] | travolta: | mine is 1000mhz |
| [21:24:00] | beixaith: | He's got bandwidth issues. |
| [21:24:00] | pregier: | yeah, the recording pc works in the living room... the laptop is what suffers when watching the main broadcast... |
| [21:24:00] | travolta: | i know 802.11g works |
| [21:24:00] | beixaith: | pregier: Can you upgrade to 802.11g? |
| [21:25:00] | pregier: | eventually... but i'd really like to try over internet eventually too... |
| [21:25:00] | pregier: | cuz hotel tv *SUCKS* :) |
| [21:25:00] | travolta: | encode/transcode to mpeg4 then |
| [21:25:00] | beixaith: | It'd look like crap if you want it realtime. |
| [21:25:00] | pregier: | will that work over 384 upload? |
| [21:25:00] | beixaith: | pregier: no way |
| [21:26:00] | pregier: | dang... |
| [21:26:00] | travolta: | make the bitrate a little less then your max upload and go down in bitrate |
| [21:26:00] | travolta: | yea it would |
| [21:26:00] | pregier: | even low quality comedy central would still be better than the marriott channel :) |
| [21:26:00] | beixaith: | Maybe darwin streaming server could downsample it a whole lot. |
| [21:26:00] | pregier: | darwin? |
| [21:27:00] | beixaith: | video streaming software, never tried it though |
| [21:27:00] | travolta: | set your settings in mythtv to a bitrate that is low |
| [21:28:00] | pregier: | that darwin thing looks cool, and i'll mess with native settings some... |
| [21:28:00] | travolta: | cap in rtjpeg and encode it after to mpeg4 with a low bitrate |
| [21:28:00] | pregier: | i think the server is a 2.X GHz p4; that should be able to do multiple encodings fine, right? |
| [21:28:00] | travolta: | yes |
| [21:29:00] | travolta: | depends |
| [21:29:00] | travolta: | what capture card? software or hardware? |
| [21:29:00] | pregier: | prolly software, that's the one with the el-cheepo ati |
| [21:29:00] | travolta: | probably can do 2 , maybe more |
| [21:29:00] | beixaith: | pregier: You'd need another tuner, and maybe more bandwidth than pci can handle. |
| [21:30:00] | pregier: | i'm looking at capture cards anyway, just not sure what to look for |
| [21:30:00] | beixaith: | You might even need > 1 disk to keep the io going. |
| [21:30:00] | pregier: | made the terrible mistake of getting an aiw |
| [21:31:00] | pregier: | where would the disk enter the picture? between encodings? |
| [21:31:00] | beixaith: | during |
| [21:31:00] | beixaith: | low-quality captures use a ton of disk space |
| [21:31:00] | pregier: | how much space at a time? would a ramdisk work? |
| [21:31:00] | pregier: | ah |
| [21:31:00] | beixaith: | well, codecs like rtjpeg that is |
| [21:32:00] | travolta: | just try it |
| [21:32:00] | pregier: | so a hauppauge? what price range is best for simple applications for good performance? |
| [21:32:00] | beixaith: | pregier: You can get a pvr-150 for like $60 (mpeg-2 in hardware) |
| [21:32:00] | pregier: | that's tolerable |
| [21:32:00] | pregier: | not much more than the ati poc |
| [21:32:00] | beixaith: | yup, seems like a great deal (I'm considering one) |
| [21:32:00] | ** pregier googles... ** | |
| [21:33:00] | beixaith: | dealnews.com will have them, or pricegrabber.com if they don't |
| [21:34:00] | pregier: | wow, that looks slick... |
| [21:34:00] | pregier: | and that would encode to mpeg2, which would then only need to be reencoded once, to mpeg-4? |
| [21:35:00] | pregier: | then mileage would vary for bandwidth, of course, depending on isp and video quality? |
| [21:35:00] | travolta: | how many inputs do you want? |
| [21:35:00] | beixaith: | pregier: reencoded only if you want it smaller, but I don't think you'll ever get xvid or whatever mythtv is using small enough to stream real-time at 384k |
| [21:35:00] | travolta: | if youre encoding to mpeg4 after, a software capture card will do |
| [21:36:00] | beixaith: | If he wants to capture from 2 devices in software, it'll be a tricky balance, and by then he'll have bought another crappy software card. |
| [21:36:00] | pregier: | quality sucks on the ati anyway, though... horribly grainy, bad color, hard to tune properly |
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| [21:36:00] | pregier: | thinking of chucking it in a local box without myth for occasional use |
| [21:37:00] | pregier: | and the situation beixaith describes is something i want to avoid |
| [21:37:00] | pregier: | thinking one input now, more some day in the distant future |
| [21:38:00] | pregier: | so back to the internet topic, what would be the minimum upload? 768 for low to medium quality? |
| [21:39:00] | pregier: | i have gamer roommates, so i don't dare choke the pipe anyway... |
| [21:40:00] | beixaith: | If you stream video at all, you'll interrupt a gamer. |
| [21:41:00] | pregier: | it's just diablo; we generally do fine until some inconsiderate clod actually hits 95% plus |
| [21:41:00] | laga: | man QoS |
| [21:41:00] | beixaith: | My wrt54g is doing QoS but I still notice while playing ut2004. |
| [21:42:00] | pregier: | i haven't gotten into qos yet... probably a good idea to look it up? |
| [21:42:00] | beixaith: | It's a good idea but it won't delay packets forever and there's only so much bandwidth. |
| [21:43:00] | pregier: | still something for the list though, i'm sure... |
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| [21:45:00] | barmeier: | Hi there, does anybody here hav an idea how this comemrcial break markers work that are stored in the recordedmarkup table. I wonder why they have no offset. |
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| [23:31:00] | Chessman: | xris, are you around? I have a question about mythlink. |
| [23:31:00] | Chessman: | When I try to run it, I get "Done RM |
| [23:31:00] | Chessman: | Skipping /tv/2060_20050811210000_20050811213000.nuv |
| [23:32:00] | Chessman: | etc, etc. |
| [23:33:00] | Krazylegz: | Do you have a link to that script? |
| [23:33:00] | Chessman: | Hmm... It's in the darn cvn... or whatever it is called. Let me look. |
| [23:34:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah. |
| [23:34:00] | Chessman: | That is the sh, I'm getting an error with mythlink.pl as well... well a different one. |
| [23:34:00] | Chessman: | It is in the contrib directory. |
| [23:35:00] | Chessman: | A different error that is. |
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| [23:38:00] | MrSpiffy: | yo |
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| [23:38:00] | MrSpiffy: | who's in da house |
| [23:38:00] | Chessman: | Krazylegz, I figured it out. I had to change the script from /tv to /media/video — where I had put my video files. |
| [23:43:00] | MrSpiffy: | has anybod thought of selling mythtv set ups ? I went to tweeter to see what they had for dvr's and it's not much. a motorolla with comcast or who knows what for direct-tv |
| [23:43:00] | Chessman: | Okay, I have to ru. See you. |
| [23:43:00] | MrSpiffy: | has anybod thought of selling mythtv set ups? I went to tweeter to see what they had for dvr's and it's not much. a motorolla with comcast or who knows what for direct-tv |
| [23:43:00] | Chessman: | MrSpiffy, I think there is an Austrilian company that does that. |
| [23:43:00] | Chessman: | See you. |
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| [23:43:00] | MrSpiffy: | the retail on the direct tv box was 699 |
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| [23:54:00] | Krazylegz: | MrSpiffy: Yes, xris's company thought about it. |
| [23:54:00] | Krazylegz: | The problems, if I remember correctly, are hardware costs and support. Some company is going to come out with one for like $2k, for high-end homes. |
| [23:55:00] | Krazylegz: | I think I could do a nice box for like $500 for friends, but I wouldn't do it for others. Do you want one? :-) |
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