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Thursday, August 18th, 2005, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:00] mchou: gf: fuckin' use lspci, that what it's for.
[00:00:00] gf: i dont know wtf to do with it
[00:00:00] gf: i'm a n00b
[00:00:00] gf: i admit it
[00:00:00] mchou: gf: what's your brain damage?
[00:00:00] gf: now slap me around and help me out
[00:01:00] Krazylegz: Take the output from lspci and put it into pastebin for us.
[00:01:00] gf: oh
[00:01:00] Krazylegz: http://pastebin.com/
[00:01:00] gf: i thoguth u meant to lspci in google
[00:01:00] gf: ok hold on
[00:01:00] mchou: Krazylegz: you're a dufus too.
[00:01:00] gf: i got it
[00:02:00] gf: 3c940
[00:02:00] Krazylegz: Now now.
[00:02:00] Krazylegz: Realtek.
[00:02:00] gf: marvell rev 12
[00:02:00] Krazylegz: Okay.
[00:02:00] gf: 3com corp
[00:02:00] mchou: well well, that's your answer.
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[00:02:00] gf: ok so now that i have the info whats the next step
[00:03:00] Krazylegz: Find the driver?
[00:03:00] Krazylegz: Is that a gigabit chipset?
[00:03:00] gf: no
[00:04:00] gf: shouldnt be
[00:04:00] gf: its a vanilla is7
[00:04:00] gf: altho it does say 10/100/1000base-t
[00:04:00] gf: so maybe i got lucky and got a gigabit chip, i've read that some people have gotten one
[00:05:00] Krazylegz: That chipset is a gigabit chipset, I think.
[00:05:00] gf: sweet
[00:05:00] gf: it'll go well with my sli-dr's gigabit chip
[00:06:00] mchou: gf: modprobe 3c2000 :)
[00:06:00] ** gf is lost **
[00:06:00] Krazylegz: I will break you.
[00:07:00] gf: ok guys
[00:07:00] gf: this aint working
[00:07:00] gf: 3com's site is not getting me the right drivers for this chipset
[00:08:00] gf: oh nvm
[00:08:00] gf: :)
[00:10:00] mchou: gf: or modprobe sk98lin
[00:11:00] gf: woot
[00:11:00] gf: that one worked
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[00:11:00] gf: ok how do i edit the file /etc/modules
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[00:11:00] LoggingIsWrong: gf: emacs /etc/modules
[00:12:00] gf: bash: emacs: command not found
[00:12:00] butabi: shouldnt the precompiled lirc debian packages support the hauppauge controls out of the box?
[00:13:00] LoggingIsWrong: gf: vi /etc/modules
[00:13:00] gf: ty sir
[00:13:00] LoggingIsWrong: gf: I hope you know vi :)
[00:14:00] gf: no
[00:14:00] gf: how do i add this thing
[00:14:00] LoggingIsWrong: gf: google for "quick vi reference"
[00:14:00] butabi: omg :)
[00:14:00] gf: who in their right mind created this vi shit??
[00:15:00] butabi: :))
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[00:15:00] LoggingIsWrong: People from the 70s, but it was very advanced then.
[00:15:00] gf: jeebus
[00:15:00] LoggingIsWrong: Now it persists the same way x86 does.
[00:15:00] gf: heh
[00:16:00] gf: lets say that i wanted to add: sk98lin
[00:16:00] gf: how do i do that
[00:16:00] mchou: gf: go to a linux channel. That has nothing to do w/myth.
[00:17:00] butabi: press "i" whereever you want to insert text, and type
[00:17:00] butabi: then escape and ":x"
[00:17:00] LoggingIsWrong: vi has nothing to do with linux!
[00:17:00] gf: it has to do with mythtv
[00:17:00] gf: and knoppix
[00:17:00] gf: thats why i'm here
[00:17:00] mchou: none of which has jack to do with myth.
[00:19:00] gf: hwo does knoppmyth have nothing to do with myth?
[00:19:00] GeckoFiend: because it's a distro?
[00:19:00] GeckoFiend: because your problem has NOTHING to do with t he mythtv software
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[00:20:00] Rince: evening
[00:20:00] butabi: if i could only get my remote to work :)
[00:20:00] ** Rince needs some help with mythtranscode... how can I get a list of profiles I can choose from with "-p" ? **
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[00:21:00] MrSpiffy: yo
[00:21:00] ** MrSpiffy is in import cd hell **
[00:21:00] MrSpiffy: hit the import cd and myth just hangs
[00:21:00] MrSpiffy: nada
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[00:21:00] kormoc: MrSpiffy, better hope it freezes over soon
[00:21:00] MrSpiffy: it is frozen
[00:21:00] MrSpiffy: that's the problem
[00:22:00] MrSpiffy: arg
[00:22:00] kormoc: did you run it from a console and see what it sputs out?
[00:22:00] MrSpiffy: yes
[00:22:00] MrSpiffy: as root
[00:22:00] MrSpiffy: no errors
[00:22:00] MrSpiffy: last is opening new db connection – total = 3
[00:22:00] MrSpiffy: then nothing
[00:23:00] MrSpiffy: nada in messages, dmesg, nada
[00:23:00] MrSpiffy: sigh
[00:23:00] MrSpiffy: no drive activity either
[00:23:00] MrSpiffy: also tried /dev/hda and /dev/cdrom
[00:23:00] MrSpiffy: chages /etc/fstab so it won;t auto mount either
[00:24:00] MrSpiffy: I thought that was it
[00:24:00] gf: ty logginiswrong, got it working finally
[00:25:00] MrSpiffy: man this is a PITA
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[00:28:00] MrSpiffy: I know that the drive works – just mounted a cdrom
[00:29:00] Krazylegz: gf: I think KnoppMyth also includes the nano editor, which is a bit more intuitive. I use vi, though.
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[00:35:00] FITH: more intuitive?!!? WTF is non-intuitive about replacing a string with  :1,$s/huh/what/g  !?! I mean really!
[00:35:00] hadeees: anyone know why i woudln't be getting audio with a pvr150
[00:35:00] FITH: :)
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[00:36:00] Krazylegz: FITH: I love vi.
[00:36:00] Krazylegz: Like, LOVE.
[00:36:00] Krazylegz: We had to write a tutorial for something in a basic CS course. I did vi.
[00:37:00] FITH: Heh, hey I've been using it for 15-ish years it's a great basic editor, but intuitive it is NOT! :) (Now emacs on the other hand... okay no, I'm not going there).
[00:38:00] kormoc: FITH, just wondering, who said it was?
[00:38:00] Krazylegz: I said that nano was more intuitive than vi.
[00:38:00] FITH: Oh, I just saw the comment up above about nano being "a bit more intuitive"  :)
[00:39:00] kormoc: I took it as being sarcastic :P
[00:39:00] kormoc: or a bit for super large values of bit
[00:39:00] Krazylegz: I did mean that nano is more intuitive.
[00:39:00] FITH: Banging rocks on a tablet is more intuitive then vi :)
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[00:39:00] Krazylegz: Fine. "Nano is a byte more intuitive than vi." — In reference to bytes on 64-bit architectures.
[00:40:00] kormoc: Krazylegz, maybe it's a eastern pa thing :P
[00:40:00] Krazylegz: I can't believe you're from Lancaster. I'm from Coatesville.
[00:41:00] kormoc: yeah, I saw from your hostmask, small world :)
[00:41:00] Krazylegz: You know where it is?
[00:41:00] Krazylegz: I guess it's a small town now.
[00:41:00] kormoc: yeah, I had a friend who lived there
[00:42:00] Krazylegz: Nice.
[00:42:00] Krazylegz: So, should I try to work for xris? :-)
[00:42:00] kormoc: heh, he's the best boss I ever had, and it's the best company I ever worked for, so imho, sure, if it's something you like :)
[00:43:00] Krazylegz: Interesting.
[00:43:00] Krazylegz: I don't think I want to go all the way over there, though. My friends are here, and my girlfriend is in NC.
[00:43:00] dionysus: hey all, I'm having some issues with myth, followed a howto through mythtv-setup, but now when i go to run mythtv-backend, it pulls the scheduling info off the net then spits out this: "Completed 43 URL grabs (415,914 Bytes) in 1 minutes & 27 seconds\n2005-08–18 08:27:07.242 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5 )\nConnection timed out.\nYou probably should modify the Master Server settings\nin the setup program and s
[00:43:00] dionysus: et the proper IP address.\nerror resceduling id -1 in ScheduledRecording::signalChange"
[00:44:00] kormoc: ahh, yeah, I had a lot of reasons to move, so it was rather easy for me
[00:44:00] dionysus: don't spose anyone else has hit something like this?
[00:44:00] kormoc: but ya, never move just for a job imho, if you're happy there, stay there
[00:45:00] kormoc: dionysus, did you do what it said? checked the master backend settings you typed in in the myth tv setup stage?
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[00:45:00] dionysus: yeah, both the howto and tooltips in mythtv-setup said not to change them unless i knew what I was doing....and I want the back and frontends both running on the same machine anyhow
[00:46:00] dionysus: or should i set a lan-addressable IP even so?
[00:46:00] Krazylegz: No, localhost should suffice.
[00:47:00] kormoc: well, the other option is, can it connect to the mysql server?
[00:47:00] kormoc: I'm not good with troubleshooting that one, given it may work with ip addresses in tcp mode but not via hostnames in unix socket mode and I donno how to fix that one
[00:48:00] dionysus: ah
[00:48:00] dionysus: it should be able to hit up mysql, yeah
[00:48:00] dionysus: i can manually, anyhow :/
[00:49:00] kormoc: yeah, mysql's a odd beast at times.
[00:49:00] gf: can anyone help me setup my hauppauge remote or direct me where to go?
[00:49:00] dionysus: bleh nm you're right, I didn't set up a mythtv user in mysql :/
[00:49:00] mchou: anyone use an avermedia a180 here?
[00:49:00] ** dionysus feels stupid now **
[00:50:00] kormoc: gf, didya try google?
[00:50:00] kormoc: dionysus, tis okay, we all make stupid mistakes :)
[00:50:00] gf: yea but i wanted to see if i could get some first hand help first
[00:50:00] butabi: damn, im still getting "lircd 0.7.0: could not open /dev/lirc" ... that sucks
[00:56:00] gf: how long does the mythfilldatabase command take generally?
[00:57:00] kormoc: a few minutes
[00:58:00] kormoc: or so
[00:58:00] gf: cuz it seems like its been running for about 10 so far
[00:58:00] Krazylegz: YEARS.
[00:58:00] kormoc: is it doing anyhting?
[00:58:00] gf: yea it keeps dling stuff
[00:58:00] gf: and then saying that my subscription expires in november
[00:59:00] kormoc: it does likly
[00:59:00] kormoc: you have to renew your subscription every few months
[00:59:00] kormoc: let it go and let it do it's thing, cause it will eather error out or finish, one of the two
[00:59:00] gf: heh
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[01:02:00] hyperstream: whats a ideal Digital TV TUNER capture card(with remote) that works really well in linux?
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[01:02:00] GeckoFiend: degine digital?
[01:02:00] GeckoFiend: define*
[01:03:00] gf: has anyone here had any luck with installing myth on ubuntu?
[01:03:00] Agrajag-: hyperstream: i have 2 visionplus cards that work well
[01:03:00] dionysus: trying it now gf, struggling :/
[01:03:00] gf: yea i tried yesterday
[01:03:00] GeckoFiend: gf isaac uses it I think
[01:03:00] GeckoFiend: chutt
[01:04:00] gf: it seems the abaraccia guide is lacking info or something
[01:04:00] Agrajag-: hyperstream: they were only $105 each, they work fine in linux+australia
[01:04:00] hadeees: alright so i have a pvr-150 MCE, and i am getting no audio with the ivtv driver ivtv-0.3.7f-hans.tgz
[01:04:00] hadeees: but my pvr-250 has audio
[01:06:00] hyperstream: Agrajag-, : true thats awesome
[01:06:00] MrSpiffy: hey folks – question – how does myth look up cddb info? my frontend is bare bones. does it need a web browser to fetch the info?
[01:06:00] MrSpiffy: according to netstat it doesn;t even try
[01:06:00] gf: god why does it look so easy in the systm video
[01:06:00] gf: yet its so feraking hard in real life
[01:07:00] hyperstream: Agrajag-, i was looking at this: http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_show.php?art_no=capCOdvb_t200a
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[01:08:00] swim: hey folks
[01:08:00] swim: hey folks, i need to get video out from my nvidia composite to work... ive tried just cping over the XF86config-4.nvidia-tv-out (from knoppmyth's /etc/X11/) to XF86config-4 but though something happened (black screen on monitor) tv actually didnt display anything... (I do go from composite to vcr, and then vcr to tv)
[01:08:00] Agrajag-: hyperstream: hmm i haven't heard of that card, and im not sure if that chip is supported
[01:09:00] hyperstream: where did you purchase the vision cards?
[01:09:00] Agrajag-: www.msy.com.au
[01:09:00] hyperstream: good quality? overlay support? digital tv?
[01:09:00] Agrajag-: yep
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[01:10:00] hyperstream: cool
[01:11:00] hyperstream: woah this site sucks
[01:11:00] hyperstream: lol
[01:11:00] Agrajag-: lol i konw
[01:11:00] Agrajag-: but cheapest prices by far
[01:12:00] Agrajag-: just get the pdf price list
[01:12:00] kormoc: gf, cause the system video was staged, they bought the right hardware that they knew how to get work and all that
[01:13:00] gf: lame
[01:13:00] gf: how dare kevin rose trick me like that
[01:13:00] gf: cheeky bastard
[01:15:00] ** kormoc shrugs **
[01:16:00] gf: well i'm gonna give ubuntumyth another shot
[01:16:00] ** gf crosses fingers **
[01:16:00] kormoc: you could email him asking for help
[01:16:00] gf: who kevin rose?
[01:16:00] kormoc: sure
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[01:16:00] gf: haha
[01:16:00] kormoc: he's the one that showed you how easy it is
[01:16:00] hadeees: kormoc, they also didn't even use a hardware mpeg encoder
[01:16:00] gf: hey kevin, can i have your cell phone number bro?
[01:16:00] hadeees: which most people use
[01:17:00] gf: yea why didnt they use the pvr250
[01:17:00] kormoc: I don't even know who kevin rose is
[01:17:00] gf: he used to be on the screen savers
[01:17:00] hadeees: gf, no clue, i wrote a page post on what they left out
[01:17:00] gf: haha
[01:17:00] gf: the other dude in teh show is a complete moron
[01:17:00] gf: he has no idea wtf is going on ever
[01:18:00] hadeees: gf, mabey or mabey thats how they do the show, one person asks questoins
[01:18:00] hadeees: while the other answers
[01:18:00] hadeees: otherwise kevin would be talking to himself
[01:18:00] gf: no liek when the dumb dude talks
[01:18:00] hadeees: either way why the hell doesn't my pvr-150 mce have any sound
[01:18:00] gf: its like hes reading off of a cue card
[01:18:00] gf: and he stutters
[01:19:00] hadeees: what ever who cares
[01:19:00] gf: haha
[01:19:00] gf: true
[01:19:00] gf: i just want my mythbox to work
[01:19:00] hadeees: if they don't come out with some intresting shows i won't want them
[01:19:00] hadeees: watch
[01:19:00] hadeees: not want
[01:19:00] gf: lol
[01:19:00] hadeees: anyway pvr-150 MCE not working
[01:20:00] hadeees: comeone i bought these damn cards to get away from problems
[01:20:00] hadeees: with the m179s i was having
[01:20:00] gf: whyd u get the mce one
[01:20:00] hadeees: cause thats what they were selling
[01:20:00] gf: ah
[01:20:00] ** kormoc seems to recall people saying the MCE isn't really supported well yet **
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[01:21:00] hadeees: gf, you don't know the half of it, i have been using mythtv for 2 years now
[01:21:00] hadeees: a few months ago my mythtv got fried
[01:21:00] gf: ouch
[01:21:00] hadeees: and i have been trying to get back to normal ever since
[01:21:00] gf: that sux
[01:21:00] evilbuny: backups :)
[01:21:00] hadeees: evilbuny, you can't backup hardware
[01:22:00] evilbuny: true
[01:22:00] evilbuny: which is a pity
[01:22:00] hadeees: i just want audio
[01:22:00] gf: wat distro u using
[01:22:00] hadeees: gentoo
[01:22:00] hadeees: been pretty good since i started myth
[01:22:00] hadeees: although i am wondering if this is possibly a kernel problem
[01:23:00] MrSpiffy: hey folks – question – how does myth look up cddb info? my frontend is bare bones. does it need a web browser to fetch the info?
[01:24:00] hadeees: MrSpiffy, no
[01:24:00] hadeees: MrSpiffy, it just looks it up
[01:24:00] MrSpiffy: damn
[01:24:00] hadeees: MrSpiffy, why you wanted a web browser?
[01:24:00] MrSpiffy: well in my case it doesn't
[01:24:00] MrSpiffy: no – don;t want one
[01:24:00] MrSpiffy: \just want mythmusic to lok up the cddb info
[01:25:00] MrSpiffy: according to netstat it doesn;t even try
[01:25:00] hadeees: what about the stuff the frontend prints to the command line
[01:25:00] hadeees: see anything there?
[01:25:00] MrSpiffy: not a thing
[01:25:00] MrSpiffy: nada
[01:25:00] MrSpiffy: zero zip
[01:25:00] hadeees: and make sure your settings say to do that
[01:26:00] hadeees: i think it might be an option
[01:26:00] MrSpiffy: yep – only setting is "auto lookup cd info"
[01:26:00] MrSpiffy: which is checked
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[01:26:00] butabi: my nvidia driver kicks my system :)
[01:26:00] butabi: i hate my box
[01:26:00] butabi: did i allready say that? :)
[01:26:00] hadeees: butabi, i hate your box too
[01:27:00] butabi: you really should
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[01:27:00] kormoc: butabi, you could mail it to me if you want... I uhh... Promise you that the hardware will uhh... be destroyed at a unknown point in the future. Sound good? great!
[01:27:00] butabi: perfect
[01:27:00] MrSpiffy: looks like I use grip to rip
[01:28:00] butabi: you would be better of destroying it anyway
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[01:28:00] kormoc: well, if you insist! mail it away! :)
[01:28:00] hadeees: butabi, send it to me and 'll give you the option of electic chair, lethal injection, or hanging
[01:29:00] hadeees: that is if it isn't held up in Fl courts
[01:29:00] butabi: noone takes away from me the pleasure of destroying my box
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[01:30:00] hadeees: does anyone here have a working pvr-150 MCE?
[01:31:00] evilbuny: hadeees: 1 yes and 1 kinda
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[01:33:00] hadeees: evilbuny, wait you have two the same cards and 1 works and 1 doesn't?
[01:33:00] evilbuny: bingo
[01:33:00] evilbuny: well sort of works
[01:34:00] evilbuny: picks up a dozen channels or so and the other picks up 70odd
[01:34:00] hadeees: i am alittle sad no one caught my Terri Schiavo joke
[01:34:00] hadeees: evilbuny, hmm not having that problem
[01:34:00] hadeees: i am having no audio
[01:34:00] gf: fuggin comcast is taking forever to tell me my channel frequency table
[01:35:00] hadeees: gf, um
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[01:35:00] hadeees: why the hell are you asking them
[01:35:00] hadeees: if you have comcast
[01:35:00] evilbuny: hadeees: audio works fine
[01:35:00] gf: ?
[01:35:00] gf: does comcast use only one of the three frequencies?
[01:35:00] hadeees: gf, comcast uses standard US freqs
[01:36:00] gf: there are 3 diff us freqs
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[01:36:00] hadeees: so just try them
[01:36:00] gf: accordign to that systm video you need to call up ur cable company and ask them
[01:36:00] kormoc: no you don't
[01:36:00] hadeees: hehe
[01:36:00] kormoc: just use the standard, preset one
[01:36:00] gf: friggin systm fags
[01:36:00] gf: default?
[01:36:00] gf: or us-cable
[01:36:00] kormoc: that one
[01:36:00] hadeees: us-cable
[01:37:00] hadeees: there is another one us-cable something
[01:37:00] hadeees: and thats the second choice
[01:37:00] gf: us-cable-hrc
[01:37:00] hadeees: if the first doesn't work
[01:37:00] kormoc: gf, just use the instructions on the mythtv website, screw the system thing.
[01:37:00] gf: hehe
[01:37:00] kormoc: comcast uses us-cable tho
[01:37:00] hadeees: kormoc, systm
[01:37:00] kormoc: whatever
[01:37:00] kormoc: :P
[01:37:00] hadeees: gf, your the first person who has tried to follow that guide as an instruction
[01:37:00] hadeees: atleast i have seen
[01:37:00] gf: :(
[01:37:00] gf: i've read the myth site too
[01:37:00] gf: but a video instructino is just easier
[01:37:00] Vitamen: hey i got a drive in a software raid if i take the drive out of the raid will the data be gone from it?
[01:38:00] gf: ya
[01:38:00] kormoc: Vitamen, yes
[01:38:00] hadeees: gf, its 15mins long
[01:38:00] hadeees: it obviously is missing information
[01:38:00] gf: bla bla bla
[01:38:00] gf: ;)
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[01:39:00] gf: that lady was useless
[01:40:00] evilbuny: Vitamen: depends what level raid
[01:40:00] evilbuny: raid5: no
[01:40:00] evilbuny: raid1: no
[01:40:00] gf: idk bout that evilbunny
[01:40:00] evilbuny: they'll simply replicate from the other drive(s)
[01:40:00] gf: they do replicate
[01:40:00] evilbuny: raid0 = no redundancy
[01:40:00] evilbuny: raid1 = mirror
[01:40:00] gf: but arent they connected somehow still?
[01:40:00] evilbuny: no
[01:41:00] evilbuny: raid is for redundency not backup
[01:41:00] Vitamen: heh
[01:41:00] kormoc: gf, yeah, they'd replicated fine
[01:41:00] evilbuny: ie it'll keep going until it looses 2 or more (well in the case of raid 5)
[01:41:00] Vitamen: isn't redundancy almost the same as backup?
[01:41:00] kormoc: nah
[01:41:00] Vitamen: well
[01:41:00] evilbuny: Vitamen: NO
[01:41:00] Vitamen: semi backup
[01:41:00] gf: raid0 is suicide ;)
[01:41:00] Vitamen: not permanent back up
[01:41:00] ** kormoc runs raid 0 on a computer **
[01:41:00] gf: you must not care about losing data then
[01:41:00] kormoc: Vitamen, till a hardware failure kills two drives
[01:41:00] evilbuny: redundency = availability != backup
[01:41:00] gf: or u have it backed up
[01:42:00] kormoc: gf, the data on those drives are backuped ya :)
[01:42:00] Vitamen: heh
[01:42:00] Vitamen: i was running software raid0 but found i was getting a lot of data inconsistencies
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[01:42:00] gf: a friend of mine had dual raptors in raid 0
[01:42:00] hyperstream: what about hardware based tv tuners? doo they work on linux well?
[01:42:00] gf: one died and then i laughed at him
[01:42:00] evilbuny: lol
[01:42:00] gf: and then i bought one of his raptors off of him
[01:42:00] kormoc: hyperstream, win pvrs do, google
[01:42:00] evilbuny: gf: lol
[01:43:00] gf: :)
[01:43:00] kormoc: gf, nice, so how do you know that one won't die soon as well?
[01:43:00] gf: if it does its ok cuz i have ghost
[01:43:00] gf: and a 300gb backup drive
[01:43:00] kormoc: you should look into rsnapshot
[01:43:00] kormoc: I have 7 daily backups, and 4 weekly backups automatited via rsnapshot
[01:44:00] gf: damn
[01:45:00] kormoc: it uses hardlinks so daily backups tend to use onyl 200 megs or so to backup 100 gigs
[01:45:00] gf: is that where it just adds stuff that has changed?
[01:46:00] kormoc: sorta, hardlinks work in a very unique way
[01:46:00] hyperstream: HAUPPAUGE NOVA T MCE OEM Digital Tuner Card
[01:46:00] hyperstream: :)
[01:47:00] gf: are there any special options that i need to do for an nvidia card in my x config?
[01:47:00] kormoc: gf, you need to tell it to use the nvidia driver
[01:47:00] evilbuny: gf: which nvidia card?
[01:47:00] hadeees: alright so i have a pvr-150 MCE, and i am getting no audio with the ivtv driver ivtv-0.3.7f-hans.tgz but with pvr-250 i have everything working fine
[01:47:00] gf: 6800gt
[01:48:00] gf: i installed the nvidia driver already
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[01:49:00] hyperstream: kormoc, : just googleing the Hauppauge on google. couldnt find much about running in linux. you know if it works ?
[01:49:00] kormoc: hyperstream, the win pvr 150/250/350/500 all work, with different levels of sucess depending on system and cards, the 250 is the best supported imho
[01:50:00] gf: kormoc, how do i tell it to use the nvidia driver?
[01:51:00] kormoc: gf, set the driver to nvidia rather then nv
[01:51:00] hyperstream: kormoc, oo HAUPPAUGE NOVA T MCE OEM is a win pvr?
[01:51:00] kormoc: hyperstream, no
[01:51:00] hyperstream: i take it win pvr is the chip
[01:51:00] hyperstream: oo never mind
[01:51:00] kormoc: hyperstream, you want a Hauppague win pvr 150/250/350/500
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[02:03:00] Agrajag-: kormoc: he's after a dvb card
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[02:07:00] gf: question for y'all: Save the firmware in ./ivtv/utils/ does this exist?
[02:08:00] gf: i'm getting this from here: http://www.abarbaccia.com/content/view/19/29/
[02:08:00] hadeees: okay i think i figured something out, i am seeing "cx25840: firmware read failed" for my pvr-150 MCE cards, could that cause the audio problem? also i have the fw in the default location
[02:08:00] hadeees: so i am not sure why it is happening
[02:09:00] dhofstra: getting asked advice about a laptop for a friend; mobile sempron 2800+ = Celeron M 1.3ghz? any huge difference?
[02:10:00] gf: anyone thats installed myth on ubuntu that can answer my question?
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[02:15:00] evilbuny: gf ubuntu stores the firmware in the same location as debian
[02:15:00] evilbuny: /var/spool/something iirc
[02:15:00] gf: so whats up with the whole ./ivtv/utils folder thing
[02:15:00] gf: how do i navigate to that folder
[02:16:00] evilbuny: sorry
[02:16:00] evilbuny: /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware
[02:16:00] evilbuny: ivtv/utils is source code and/or compiled binaries
[02:16:00] gf: ok, as it stands right now
[02:17:00] gf: there is nothing in my firware folder
[02:17:00] gf: prolly something wrong correct?
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[02:17:00] evilbuny: you need to download or extract it
[02:17:00] gf: i've downloaded it
[02:17:00] evilbuny: then just copy it into there
[02:17:00] gf: its an exe
[02:17:00] evilbuny: also some of the drivers expect it in /lib/modules
[02:18:00] evilbuny: you need to extract the firmware from the exe
[02:18:00] evilbuny: there is a couple of ubuntu howtos that cover it on the web i've noticed that cover all that
[02:18:00] gf: could i extract it in windows
[02:18:00] gf: and then just copy the files over?
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[02:19:00] evilbuny: you can do it in linux
[02:19:00] evilbuny: the howtos cover it
[02:20:00] gf: any links bunny?
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[02:26:00] hadeees: okay i think i figured something out, i am seeing "cx25840: firmware read failed" for my pvr-150 MCE cards, could that cause the audio problem? also i have the fw in the default location and I just tired renaming the HcwFalcn.rom to ivtv-fw-enc.bin and still no go, but it seems like the pvr-250 is using the firmware fine
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[03:06:00] GreyFoxx: Hah, looks like I'll need to reinstall OpenBSD on a box to test out this patch to get myth running on it. So far it works fine using X11 for playback under vmware
[03:08:00] hadeees: so anyone know why i would get a "cx25840: firmware load failed" if the firmware is there?
[03:13:00] Vitamen: an yone around?
[03:18:00] gf: ok here we go, about to login to mythtv on ubuntu, hopefully everything works
[03:18:00] ** gf crosses fingers **
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[03:25:00] gf: ok i'm havnig a problem: Could not connect to teh master backend server — is it running? Is the IP Address set for it in teh setup program correct?
[03:26:00] GreyFoxx: And.... what is the answer to that question ?:)
[03:26:00] gf: it should be correct
[03:26:00] gf: i didnt change anything
[03:26:00] GreyFoxx: should be , or is ? Have you verified it ?>
[03:26:00] gf: its still 127.0.0.1
[03:26:00] Agrajag-: is it running?
[03:26:00] GreyFoxx: Ok, is it running?
[03:26:00] gf: how do i tell
[03:26:00] GreyFoxx: and the backend is on the same box right ?
[03:26:00] gf: yes
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[03:26:00] Agrajag-: pidof mythbackend
[03:26:00] gf: i have a mythtv user
[03:26:00] GreyFoxx: ps -ef | grep mythbackend
[03:27:00] gf: ok i typed both of those
[03:27:00] gf: the pidof gave me no info back
[03:27:00] Agrajag-: .. it's not running then
[03:27:00] LoggingIsWrong: gf: /var/log/mythtv is helpful
[03:28:00] gf: $ sudo echo "mythfrontend" | sudo tee /home/mythtv/.xsession
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[03:28:00] gf: $ sudo chown mythtv.mythtv /home/mythtv/.xsession
[03:28:00] gf: ah
[03:28:00] gf: that just starts the front end
[03:28:00] gf: how do i get it to start the backedn automatically too?
[03:29:00] LoggingIsWrong: gf: Are you using packages?
[03:29:00] gf: i'm using ubuntu
[03:29:00] gf: and abarbaccia's guide
[03:29:00] gf: i did an apt-get install mythtv
[03:29:00] LoggingIsWrong: gf: It should be starting already I think. What's in the log?
[03:29:00] gf: 1 sec
[03:29:00] LoggingIsWrong: gf: If you haven't rebooted, /etc/init.d/mythbackend start will get it started
[03:30:00] LoggingIsWrong: well, something like that
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[03:30:00] gf: it cant open the database it says
[03:31:00] Quan: I'm building from source and want to install just the frontend on another box, is there a "make install-frontend" or anything?
[03:31:00] LoggingIsWrong: gf: Can you say ... "mysql -u mythtv -p" to connect?
[03:32:00] gf: when i try to do the /etc/ command i get this error: "mythbackendsession management error: authentication rejected
[03:32:00] gf: i can get into teh sql server via that command yes
[03:32:00] GreyFoxx: Quan: No, but there is a ./configure flag to only build the frontend
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[03:33:00] GreyFoxx: Quan when you do the ./configure add a --disable-backend
[03:33:00] Quan: ahh ok
[03:33:00] Quan: tnx
[03:33:00] LoggingIsWrong: gf: Looks like you need to fix your password
[03:33:00] gf: in mythtv?
[03:33:00] gf: or in sql
[03:34:00] LoggingIsWrong: I think you need the egg before the chicken
[03:34:00] gf: heh
[03:34:00] LoggingIsWrong: I wonder wtf the password for the backend is.
[03:35:00] LoggingIsWrong: Can you cut-n-paste from the log?
[03:35:00] gf: 1 sec, lemme opne up a vnc
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[03:36:00] LoggingIsWrong: oh, /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[03:36:00] gf: yea im in there right now
[03:36:00] LoggingIsWrong: I think you can put plaintext in there.
[03:36:00] gf: yea
[03:36:00] gf: ygpm
[03:38:00] hadeees: so i am getting "cx25840: firmware load failed" when loading ivtv but i have the firmware, mythbackend driver # ls /lib/modules/ 2.6.12-gentoo-r4 HcwMakoA.ROM ivtv-fw-dec.bin ivtv-fw-enc.bin ivtv-fw-enc.bin.old
[03:39:00] hadeees: i think that is the reason i have no audio with the pvr-150 mce
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[03:49:00] LoggingIsWrong: gf: Did you run mythtv-setup?
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[03:51:00] gf: yes
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[03:51:00] gf: ill do it again tho
[03:53:00] LoggingIsWrong: gf: fwiw, you want to follow the howto pretty carefully
[03:53:00] gf: i did, thats the sad part
[03:53:00] gf: i did that stuff word for word
[03:53:00] LoggingIsWrong: heh
[03:53:00] LoggingIsWrong: Well, mythtv is pretty dependent on other things and it's a bit fragile
[03:54:00] LoggingIsWrong: I saw some useful errors there from your log.
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[03:55:00] gf: when i try to start the backedn i get an error that says "unable to set gid to 116"
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[03:57:00] LoggingIsWrong: gf: Are you running /etc/init.d/mythwhatever as root?
[03:57:00] gf: that time i didnt, lemme try it as root and see what happens
[03:58:00] gf: authentication rejected
[03:58:00] gf: le sigh
[03:59:00] Krazylegz: Well, that's better.
[03:59:00] gf: sure....
[03:59:00] LoggingIsWrong: heh, did you set your password to "mythtv?"
[03:59:00] gf: mebbe
[03:59:00] LoggingIsWrong: In /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[03:59:00] gf: yes
[04:00:00] LoggingIsWrong: I'll get right back to you after Mack the Knife
[04:00:00] ** LoggingIsWrong taps foot **
[04:00:00] gf: 1 sec
[04:00:00] gf: its locked and i cant open it
[04:00:00] gf: lemme change that
[04:00:00] LoggingIsWrong: My neighbors are surprisingly tolerant.
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[04:01:00] gf: ahhh
[04:01:00] gf: teh dbpassword in this file is some whacko combination
[04:02:00] gf: woo i think i did it
[04:02:00] LoggingIsWrong: excellent
[04:02:00] gf: 1 sec
[04:02:00] gf: time to test it out
[04:03:00] gf: ok the server is working
[04:03:00] gf: but nwo im getting black picture
[04:03:00] gf: as in nothing is showing on the screen
[04:03:00] LoggingIsWrong: even if you change channel?
[04:03:00] gf: yes
[04:03:00] LoggingIsWrong: What hardware anyway?
[04:03:00] gf: pvr250
[04:03:00] gf: 6800gtoc
[04:04:00] gf: lemme change the frequency
[04:04:00] LoggingIsWrong: I hate to sound like a broken record but ... anything in the logs?
[04:04:00] gf: uno momento
[04:05:00] gf: ok, error getting inputs for the capturecard
[04:05:00] gf: perhaps you have forgotten to bind video sources to your card's inputs?
[04:05:00] LoggingIsWrong: mythtv-setup again?
[04:05:00] fatmatt: is there a howto somewhere on how to remap Alt-F4 (usb remote that acts like a keyboard) to do a reboot?
[04:06:00] gf: what do u suggest i change?
[04:06:00] LoggingIsWrong: fatmatt: That's going to depend on the window manager/ desktop
[04:06:00] fatmatt: ratpoison
[04:06:00] LoggingIsWrong: be careful
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[04:07:00] LoggingIsWrong: gf: the 3rd or 4th thing seems to be hosed
[04:07:00] ** LoggingIsWrong works from memory **
[04:08:00] gf: how do u delete capture cards
[04:08:00] gf: when i was using the vnc it added like 4 vfl cards
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[04:08:00] LoggingIsWrong: gf: answer yes when you start up mythtv-setup
[04:09:00] gf: ah
[04:09:00] gf: good call
[04:09:00] LoggingIsWrong: not a very precise instrument
[04:09:00] gf: heh
[04:10:00] LoggingIsWrong: I think I can trick fortune by redoing my resume tonight, then I'll get the jobs I'm interviewing for tomorrow.
[04:10:00] LoggingIsWrong: Fortune is very short-sighted.
[04:10:00] gf: gay, still a black screen
[04:11:00] LoggingIsWrong: gay is black?
[04:11:00] gf: my time is cut off too
[04:11:00] gf: could it be due to my nvidia drivers?
[04:11:00] LoggingIsWrong: Did you restart the backend after making configuration changes?
[04:12:00] gf: no
[04:12:00] LoggingIsWrong: What were you thinking?
[04:13:00] Krazylegz: LoggingIsWrong: The best way to deal with chance is to plan for all of the bad things that can happen. Then, they never happen.
[04:13:00] LoggingIsWrong: Krazy: There isn't enough time in the world for all that.
[04:13:00] LoggingIsWrong: I just assume everything will go wrong.
[04:14:00] gf: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
[04:14:00] gf: we have liftoff
[04:14:00] Krazylegz: Well, that's what I mean.
[04:14:00] LoggingIsWrong: What about separation?
[04:15:00] LoggingIsWrong: Krazy: That just insulates me against depression. It doesn't assure success :)
[04:15:00] gf: ok, how do you change mythtv's resolution
[04:15:00] LoggingIsWrong: err, ensure
[04:15:00] LoggingIsWrong: gf: It's in the setup under appearance, assuming your X configuration is setup to use those modes.
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[04:16:00] gf: not seeing it
[04:17:00] gf: are you talking about the gui width?
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[04:18:00] LoggingIsWrong: flag separate modes for gui and display
[04:18:00] gf: and i do that how?
[04:19:00] LoggingIsWrong: It's in the appearance menu somewhere.
[04:20:00] LoggingIsWrong: There are no reasonable defaults or intuitive configuration, so you might as well get initimate with the setup screens.
[04:21:00] gf: oooh intimate
[04:21:00] gf: what i really need is to get the remote working
[04:22:00] Krazylegz: Yeah, I love having the remote working.
[04:22:00] Krazylegz: Luckily, KnoppMyth made it really easy.
[04:22:00] gf: hitting up on my keyboard doesnt help
[04:22:00] gf: goes so slow
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[05:14:00] Krazylegz: What's the best way to know you're in a screen session in an SSH session?
[05:16:00] Agrajag-: uhh... if you typed screen when you ssh'd, you're in a screen session
[05:16:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[05:16:00] Krazylegz: Yeah, I could keep track myself of course.
[05:17:00] GreyFoxx: CTRL-A v
[05:17:00] GreyFoxx: will sput out screens version in the bottom of the screen
[05:17:00] GreyFoxx: if you are not in screen, you will see nothing
[05:17:00] GreyFoxx: or try CTRL-AC to open a new window :)
[05:17:00] Krazylegz: Nice, thanks.
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[05:18:00] Krazylegz: Agrajag-: I had to know if maybe I logged in via SSH and then attached to a screen that was spawned from another screen. If I exited the screen, then I could still be in a screen.
[05:18:00] Krazylegz: man screen would also work for educating me. :-)
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[05:19:00] GreyFoxx: If you open screen from within screen, you need to add a layer of CTRL keys to control the "internal" screen
[05:19:00] GreyFoxx: You would know pretty quick :)
[05:19:00] Agrajag-: doesn't it warn you when you do that
[05:19:00] Agrajag-: or is that when you try to attach from within a screen
[05:20:00] GreyFoxx: When you attach to another screen from withing a screen
[05:20:00] Krazylegz: Let's see.
[05:20:00] Agrajag-: btw i made a cool status bar thing down the bottom to show me the windows i've created and which one im on and stuff
[05:20:00] Agrajag-: hardstatus alwayslastline "%-Lw%{= CB}%{+c w}%50>%n%f* %t%{-}%+Lw%<"
[05:20:00] Krazylegz: Nope. Mine just opens another screen within a screen, and I control that screen.
[05:20:00] Agrajag-: put that in your ~/.screenrc
[05:23:00] Krazylegz: Interesting. What is it showing me?
[05:23:00] Krazylegz: Ah, if I create another screen with CTRL-A c, it shows up down there.
[05:23:00] Agrajag-: yep
[05:23:00] Agrajag-: and highlights the one you're on
[05:23:00] Agrajag-: handy if you name them
[05:25:00] Krazylegz: Oh neat, I'm finally learning screen. :-)
[05:25:00] Krazylegz: You guys really should have just told me "man screen". Shame on you!
[05:26:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[05:26:00] GreyFoxx: screen is one of my most used apps.
[05:26:00] Krazylegz: Any way to get it to index the first screen as 1 instead of 0? Makes sense with how the keyboard is setup. Damn us for being CS people.
[05:26:00] GreyFoxx: I use it pretty much 24/7 when I'm online
[05:27:00] Agrajag-: me too
[05:27:00] Agrajag-: and i always have a whole heap of windows
[05:27:00] Krazylegz: Yeah, so do I.
[05:27:00] Agrajag-: that's why that line is so handy for me
[05:27:00] GreyFoxx: Agar: I just use CTRL-A "
[05:27:00] Krazylegz: Do you just have one screen for spawning other screens?
[05:27:00] Agrajag-: you can renumber the screens
[05:27:00] GreyFoxx: but I name the common ones
[05:27:00] Agrajag-: ctrl-a :number <n>
[05:28:00] GreyFoxx: On phaze for example I always know what is what since I always open then in the same order
[05:28:00] Krazylegz: Nice.
[05:28:00] GreyFoxx: 0 = mutt, 1 = irc efnet, 2 = irc freenode, 3 = mutt mythtv-users, etc etc
[05:28:00] Krazylegz: That's hot. REALLY hot.
[05:28:00] Agrajag-: heh i always have 0 as mutt too
[05:28:00] Krazylegz: Sizzlin'.
[05:28:00] Vitamen: anyone familiar with python. i need some help with this error http://pastebin.com/339600
[05:30:00] Agrajag-: im not familiar with python but i reckon i know what's wrong
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[05:31:00] Agrajag-: "Thu, 25 Aug 2005" does not match "%a, %d-%b-%Y"
[05:31:00] Krazylegz: So, like I was saying, do I need to have one screen just for spawning my other screens?
[05:31:00] Agrajag-: dashes in the format string
[05:31:00] GreyFoxx: Krazylegz: Huh ?
[05:31:00] Agrajag-: no dashes in that actual string
[05:31:00] Vitamen: oh ok
[05:31:00] GreyFoxx: You can use CTRL-AC to create a new screen from any of the screens
[05:31:00] Vitamen: thanks
[05:31:00] Agrajag-: i wouldn't recommend running screen from within other screens
[05:32:00] Krazylegz: Duh. Thanks GreyFoxx!
[05:32:00] Krazylegz: Oh, and Agrajag-. :-)
[05:33:00] GreyFoxx: hrm, clean up this patch, or read, or sleep.... hmm
[05:33:00] Krazylegz: Watch television.
[05:33:00] GreyFoxx: I do enough of that :)
[05:33:00] GreyFoxx: mostly at work these days hehe
[05:33:00] Krazylegz: I watch television while working, I suppose.
[05:34:00] Krazylegz: One of the advantages of working from home.
[05:34:00] GreyFoxx: I stream livetv/shows to work from home
[05:34:00] GreyFoxx: I catch up most of my recorded stuff that way now
[05:34:00] Krazylegz: MythStreamTV?
[05:35:00] GreyFoxx: well, yess and no. I have that installed and use it once in a while, but I just setup some shell scripts to do it
[05:35:00] GreyFoxx: mythtv@woop:~$ ls -la stream*
[05:35:00] GreyFoxx: -rwxr-xr-x 1 mythtv users 4152 2005-07–22 11:25 streamlive.pl
[05:35:00] GreyFoxx: -rwxr-xr-x 1 mythtv users 233 2005-07–22 11:39 streamshow.sh
[05:36:00] GreyFoxx: ./streamlive.pl 9 setups up a stream for channel 9 , streamshow takes a video (recording or any other video) and sets that up
[05:36:00] GreyFoxx: I bring them into my desktop and work where I setup a vlc reflector for my coworkers to watch as well
[05:36:00] Krazylegz: Nice.
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[05:36:00] Agrajag-: so uhh... do you guys actually do work?
[05:36:00] GreyFoxx: so 1 stream in feeds like 10 people
[05:37:00] Krazylegz: I have to do work, I don't get paid by the hour. :-)
[05:37:00] GreyFoxx: I do an insane amount of stuff in the run of a day, fuck em if they don't like me having a video running in the background
[05:37:00] Krazylegz: Haha.
[05:37:00] Agrajag-: fair enough :P
[05:38:00] GreyFoxx: Besides, I needs lots of "input" all the time
[05:38:00] Krazylegz: Back in the day, when I used RH, it would actually spawn each user into a screen session from an SSH login.
[05:38:00] GreyFoxx: If I'm not doing 2 or 3 things at once I get bored :)
[05:38:00] Krazylegz: I think.
[05:39:00] Vitamen: how well does mythstream work?
[05:39:00] Vitamen: its it choppy?
[05:39:00] GreyFoxx: Krazylegz: That would have had to be something someone setup
[05:39:00] GreyFoxx: Vitamen: All depends on the bitrate you setup and your connection
[05:39:00] GreyFoxx: Mine works perfectly
[05:39:00] Krazylegz: I'm pretty sure it was just a default RH setting?
[05:39:00] Krazylegz: I certainly didn't set it up.
[05:39:00] GreyFoxx: but I've got a sweet connection, and so does work (on the same ISP)
[05:39:00] GreyFoxx: Krazylegz: I highly doubt it
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[05:39:00] Vitamen: GreyFoxx: whats your connection?
[05:39:00] Krazylegz: You'r probably right.
[05:40:00] GreyFoxx: Vitamen: 10Meg down, 1.5Meg out
[05:40:00] GreyFoxx: Megabit that is
[05:40:00] GreyFoxx: and since I'm streaming out a fractoion of that it's not a problem
[05:40:00] Vitamen: wow
[05:41:00] Vitamen: how much that cost you?
[05:41:00] GreyFoxx: $39.95+Tax CDN
[05:41:00] GreyFoxx: expensed to my company
[05:41:00] Vitamen: what kind of work you do
[05:42:00] GreyFoxx: Unix network/admin/support and some programming
[05:42:00] GreyFoxx: basically "whatever we need you to do"
[05:44:00] Vitamen: is there an easy way to pass files from my home pc to my work pc besides ftp?
[05:45:00] GreyFoxx: ssh/scp ?
[05:45:00] GreyFoxx: sneakernet ?
[05:46:00] Krazylegz: GMail!
[05:46:00] Krazylegz: Actually, if it's just one-way, HTTP might be nice.
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[06:13:00] Chessman: Hi all, I have a quick question. Is there a way to tell which show an *nuv file is?
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[06:19:00] Vitamen: sometimes when i start up my mythtv box i get this error http://pastebin.com/339635 , and when it happens and i try to cat /dev/video0 > /mnt/test.mpg it says no device /dev/video0 found . But when i boot up and i dont get that error it works fine
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[06:23:00] Chessman: Vitamen, I don't think anyone is around to help at the moment. No response to my question.
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[06:24:00] Vitamen: hmm
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[06:24:00] Mrgoose: you around GeckoFiend
[06:25:00] Krazylegz: It was Mrgoose in disguise!
[06:25:00] Mrgoose: heh
[06:25:00] Mrgoose: Krazylegz: you check my erorr ?
[06:25:00] Krazylegz: I did.
[06:26:00] Krazylegz: However, you have been around here long enough to know that I don't know what I'm talking about. :-)
[06:27:00] travolta: Chessman, there is a shell script with the source
[06:27:00] Chessman: travolta, oh!
[06:27:00] travolta: it makes sym links
[06:27:00] travolta: with show names pointing to the nuv files
[06:29:00] Chessman: I'll poke around in the source and see what I can see.
[06:30:00] Krazylegz: Someone asked the other day. xris was working on it. Check the MythLogBot too.
[06:31:00] Chessman: Krazylegz, Hmm... thanks.
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[06:37:00] xris: me working on what?
[06:38:00] Krazylegz: The script that makes symlinks for the .nuv recordings.
[06:38:00] Krazylegz: Weren't you working on that for the turtl_ or someone?
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[06:38:00] Chessman: Krazylegz, :-) I'm still looking around, but I have faith I'll find it.
[06:38:00] xris: Chessman: you want mythlink... in svn (you want those ones), there are two scripts, a pl and a sh script
[06:38:00] xris: both do similar stuff, in slightly different ways.
[06:38:00] Chessman: mythlink?
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[06:38:00] xris: I think mine (the perl one) is probably a little easier to deal with
[06:38:00] Chessman: xris, okay.
[06:39:00] xris: in mythtv/contrib/
[06:39:00] xris: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . /mythlink.pl
[06:40:00] Chessman: xris, let me wget it. :-)
[06:41:00] xris: I need to remember to install that on the mythbox at work...
[06:43:00] Chessman: xris, bear with me, but how do I start the darn thing... just chmod to +x and ./mythlink.pl?
[06:43:00] Mrgoose: xris: you have any ideas?
[06:43:00] xris: Mrgoose: ?
[06:44:00] xris: Chessman: --help
[06:44:00] Mrgoose: sometimes when i start up my mythtv box i get this error http://pastebin.com/339635 , and when it happens and i try to cat /dev/video0 > /mnt/test.mpg it says no device /dev/video0 found . But when i boot up and i dont get that error it works fine
[06:44:00] xris: but yeah, pretty much.
[06:44:00] xris: it creates symlinks to the nuv files, named in something human-readable.
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[07:09:00] xris: stupid netsplit
[07:15:00] Hoxzer: stubidoa :|
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[07:18:00] opopanax_gentoo: hey all.
[07:18:00] opopanax_gentoo: anyone know about myth/alsa/jack and raw digital output?
[07:20:00] opopanax_gentoo: ping
[07:21:00] travolta: pong
[07:24:00] opopanax_gentoo: lol, thanks
[07:24:00] opopanax_gentoo: i told someone about my bitrate problems with mythtv/alsa, and they said JACK might be my solution.
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[08:09:00] xris: so quiet in here now that Beirdo goes to bed early
[08:10:00] butabi: i need lirc support :)
[08:10:00] xris: I'm not the one to give it. heh.
[08:11:00] butabi: damnit.
[08:11:00] Hoxzer: ^^
[08:18:00] xris: when my lirc f's up, I usually spend about a day compiling and reinstalling, and then it eventually works.. no idea why.
[08:20:00] Hoxzer: ^^
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[08:20:00] Hoxzer: it plays with you like my mother board plays with me
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[08:29:00] butabi: i finally got a life signal of my remote, still a far way to go i guess
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[09:00:00] XAD|onoff: blip...
[09:05:00] pirre: blop
[09:05:00] pirre: oh wait, we've already played this game
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[09:07:00] fangji: MythDVD can't find DVD disk, but I can use Mythmusic play CD music in the same DVD-driver. Why?
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[10:27:00] fatmatt: anyone here from autralia using the oztivo xmltv grabber?
[10:28:00] benw_: I'm using tv_grab_au, but you'd never want the same setup as me
[10:28:00] benw_: since I seem to only record channel 9 irrespective of what I select
[10:32:00] directhex|work: what's wrong with channel 9?
[10:33:00] pirre: haha
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[10:42:00] benw_: there's nothing intrinsically wrong with ch9, they have some fine programs
[10:43:00] benw_: but when I try to record something on the other channel, and it just records from the ch9 stream, it can get a little frustrating
[10:43:00] benw_: I suspect ch9 is sponsoring mythtv developers in some underhanded scheme
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[11:30:00] fweeee: Hello – I have a bit of a problem. I want to watch a DVD on my myth machine. mplayer plays the dvd ok, but there is no menu. So I have installed xine. But xine wont play the dvd, as it is complaining about encryption. Now I think I need css (libdvdcss), which is installed. Now – can anyone tell me why xine wont work?
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[12:01:00] hyperstream: how do i reconfigure v4l because ive just replace my tv tuner with a more supported one for linux
[12:03:00] fweeee: hyperstream: you answer my question and I'll answer yours.
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[12:07:00] k-man_: is there a way to control the frontend from another computer on the network? ie, like vnc to it or something?
[12:08:00] k-man_: so i can control the front end from a laptop
[12:08:00] k-man_: for watching live tv
[12:11:00] k-man_: anyone?
[12:12:00] pirre: ssh?
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[12:13:00] pirre: ...or vnc
[12:13:00] pirre: or vnc over ssh
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[12:15:00] fweeee: pirre: I've tried vnc – linux doesnt do it the same as windows, you end up controling a new session.
[12:15:00] pirre: ah
[12:15:00] pirre: fweeee: you're running windows on your laptop?
[12:17:00] fweeee: pirre: No, I run windows on one of my desktops, and when I try to vnc into my mythbox, its not the same thing thats on the TV. Its its own little gui session, independant of whats on tv.
[12:18:00] pirre: okay
[12:20:00] pirre: hm, not sure how to control the gui then
[12:20:00] pirre: via ssh you can use the cli, anyhow
[12:22:00] fweeee: You can use the client via ssh?
[12:23:00] pirre: no, probably not
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[12:25:00] aklobem: hey there ... anyone come across a fix for "kernel: ivtv: ENC Stream 2 OVERFLOW" ? I've read a few posts and most say turn off debuging.
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[12:41:00] oddbudman: can anyone suggest a good tv tuner program for my dvb card and just normal desktop usage?
[12:41:00] hyperstream: how do i reconfigure my new tv tuner ive just stuck into my pc. something to do with v4l?
[12:42:00] fweeee: oddbudman: Wouldnt you use dvbscan, and stream it to mplayer?
[12:45:00] oddbudman: fweeee, yeah, but i want a nice little program like tvtime
[12:46:00] oddbudman: i have it all working, i'm just looking for a nice solution
[12:47:00] hyperstream: i just had a tv tuner in here had issues so i decided to buy a new one that has more support for linux, but /dev/video0 isnt working debug info: http://pastebin.com/339778
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[13:11:00] amorphix: hi guys
[13:11:00] amorphix: anyone familiar with PHILLIPS 7130?
[13:11:00] amorphix: is it best to have MPEG-4 support?
[13:16:00] XAD|onoff: no, what is it??
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[13:22:00] amorphix: a tv capture card
[13:22:00] amorphix: well a chipset on which several cards are based to be precise
[13:29:00] LoggingIsWrong: mpeg-4 support might be nice, since it's a buttload smaller than mpeg-2 (but less portable)
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[13:29:00] LoggingIsWrong: I've only seen one mpeg-4 card and it was $595
[13:31:00] amorphix: woah
[13:31:00] amorphix: so this is a rare feature only found on newer cards eh
[13:32:00] amorphix: cant MPEG4 be done in software in Linux yet?
[13:32:00] LoggingIsWrong: sure it can
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[13:34:00] amorphix: ok
[13:35:00] amorphix: which is the best card for the low end budget
[13:35:00] amorphix: Hauppauge PVR ?
[13:35:00] LoggingIsWrong: I'd consult the mailing lists.
[13:35:00] amorphix: yeah i need some advice
[13:36:00] LoggingIsWrong: Of course you could also capture via firewire if you have the right cable box.
[13:36:00] amorphix: USB = bad choice for Linux eh
[13:36:00] amorphix: seriously?
[13:36:00] amorphix: i have a good cable box
[13:36:00] amorphix: how does firewire capturing work?
[13:37:00] LoggingIsWrong: If you pore over the list archives you'll get a better idea.
[13:37:00] amorphix: my cable box has USB on it
[13:37:00] LoggingIsWrong: I wonder what that's for.
[13:37:00] amorphix: it also has RS232
[13:37:00] LoggingIsWrong: usb is a toy
[13:37:00] amorphix: and IR Blaster
[13:39:00] LoggingIsWrong: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/
[13:40:00] cmug: Can anyone suggest a DVB-C with CI card reader builtin?
[13:40:00] gf: do you ever go to sleep?
[13:40:00] amorphix: LoggingIsWrong thanks
[13:41:00] amorphix: logging IRC chat is wrong?
[13:45:00] amorphix: i have a question
[13:45:00] amorphix: why do you guys bother with pc capture cards and all this stuff, when you can buy PVR boxes with HDD's inside that can store upto 40hrs of programs and do it much more efficiently
[13:45:00] LoggingIsWrong: <-- tired as hell
[13:46:00] amorphix: have a guinness
[13:46:00] amorphix: you'll sleep much better
[13:47:00] amorphix: seriously, a guinness will set you right
[13:49:00] gf: htpc = much more than a pvr
[13:49:00] amorphix: im having one right now
[13:49:00] amorphix: gf: whats a htpc
[13:49:00] gf: home theater pc
[13:49:00] amorphix: oh
[13:49:00] amorphix: how is that more than a PVR box
[13:50:00] gf: its a computer
[13:50:00] gf: can play games
[13:50:00] gf: play music that you've dl'ed ripped
[13:50:00] gf: plays dvds
[13:50:00] gf: no monthly fee
[13:50:00] gf: plays videos that you can dl
[13:50:00] amorphix: sure, but i mean if you puter already, why put a card inside it to make it into a PVR when you can just buy a PVR box
[13:50:00] XAD|onoff: amorphix: epg is a big difference...
[13:50:00] gf: i haev an extra one hanging around
[13:51:00] amorphix: thats what i dont understand
[13:51:00] gf: so its not like i watch tv on my computer
[13:51:00] gf: its hooked up to my tv
[13:51:00] amorphix: what is epg?
[13:51:00] XAD|onoff: electronic program guide...
[13:51:00] amorphix: oh
[13:51:00] XAD|onoff: (I think it stands for)...
[13:51:00] amorphix: PVR boxes support that tho, upto 14 days ahead
[13:51:00] amorphix: most do
[13:52:00] XAD|onoff: it's very WAF... you browse the program guide and select: record it... or record all shows...
[13:52:00] amorphix: from what ive read PVR boxes seem to be far superior to the cards you put inside a PC
[13:52:00] XAD|onoff: well, not in all countries...
[13:52:00] XAD|onoff: amorphix, you know that a some PVR's use linux and have similar cards??
[13:52:00] amorphix: also you have a nice quiet shiney silver box you can place under your TV set so you dont need to have puter on
[13:53:00] amorphix: seriously?
[13:53:00] amorphix: so those are basically just cut down puters?
[13:53:00] XAD|onoff: well, not P4's but simplier chips...
[13:54:00] amorphix:
[13:54:00] XAD|onoff: on HTPC you can play games, not on "real" PVR's...
[13:54:00] amorphix: so im wondering if its worth investing more in a better PVR card
[13:54:00] amorphix: sure
[13:54:00] amorphix: but if you have a PC already, whats it matter
[13:55:00] amorphix: i mean...
[13:55:00] amorphix: basically, im wondering if these purpose built PVR boxes can do the job better than a PC can
[13:55:00] XAD|onoff: well, I would say that in a short time you will be right... but at the moment you have to pay 4–500Euro for a PVR in Sweden... not having EPG... but I think most built there own becuase they can... ;-) :-D
[13:56:00] amorphix: it seems logical to have a separate box
[13:56:00] XAD|onoff: or well,... a lot of people can't but would like to do it anyways... :-D
[13:56:00] amorphix: i see, so cost is the reason why MythTV offers a cheaper way eh
[13:57:00] amorphix: what appeals to me tho about MythTV is the networking side of it, i like the idea of being able to watch cable in other rooms
[13:57:00] XAD|onoff: well, if your time is cheap...
[13:57:00] amorphix: but of course u can get longer cables or video sender boxes cheap
[13:57:00] XAD|onoff: if you value your time and don't value learning linux and how to install MythTV then you can buy Windows MCE and MC-Extender...
[13:58:00] amorphix: i see
[13:58:00] amorphix: media center
[13:58:00] amorphix:
[13:58:00] amorphix: and not even have to worry about how it works
[13:59:00] XAD|onoff: but why are you in this channel?? this is for MythTV users....
[13:59:00] XAD|onoff: ;-)
[14:00:00] amorphix:
[14:00:00] amorphix: yea i have been considering setting up MythTV for the last 2 weeks and have got a tv capture card
[14:00:00] amorphix: but now ive learned about PVR boxes
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[14:09:00] LoggingIsWrong: hauppauge makes a little diskless pvr that'll work with mythtv (for extra rooms)
[14:10:00] fatmatt: LoggingIsWrong: got a url?
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[14:15:00] GreyFoxx: You are referring to the MediaMVP ?
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[14:16:00] GreyFoxx: It's not really a PVR(no tuner/capture), but it can be used as a frontend to playback your myth recordings. It's small, low power and has pretty good TV out quality.
[14:16:00] Tommck: $$?
[14:18:00] GreyFoxx: ~$80USD
[14:18:00] Tommck: will it do HD out?
[14:18:00] GreyFoxx: no
[14:19:00] Tommck: damn
[14:19:00] GreyFoxx: Not without hardware modification
[14:19:00] XAD|onoff: Dedicated hardware decode support for MPEG-2 Transport Stream, MPEG-2 MP@ML, and MPEG-1.
[14:19:00] XAD|onoff: -- Note: you need a 1.8Ghz or faster PC to play DivX movies. ---
[14:19:00] XAD|onoff: Is that really calling DivX support??
[14:20:00] GreyFoxx: XAD|onoff: Thats what Marketing drones do.
[14:20:00] XAD|onoff: The backend convert DivX to an MPEG-2/MPEG-1 stream...
[14:20:00] Tommck: so, the MVP is a bare bones system and you drop your own proc and memory in it?
[14:20:00] GreyFoxx: Tommck: No, It's a little appliance
[14:20:00] Tommck: oh.
[14:20:00] Tommck: then what's XAD|onoff talking about?
[14:20:00] GreyFoxx: Netboots
[14:21:00] XAD|onoff: The MVP is a hardware MPEG2/1 streamer to TV converter...
[14:21:00] GreyFoxx: the mvp plays it's content rfom shares and such
[14:21:00] Tommck: right
[14:21:00] XAD|onoff: the PC has to have the streaming program...
[14:21:00] GreyFoxx: if you want it to play divx then the other end needs to convert it on the fly
[14:21:00] Tommck: GreyFoxx – so it isn't a Myth front end? it's its own program?
[14:21:00] XAD|onoff: Grey, are you sure it takes shares?? doesn't it only read stream...
[14:21:00] GreyFoxx: Tommck: http://www.pcalchemy.com/product_info.php/pNa . . . rdstv-tuners
[14:22:00] GreyFoxx: XAD|onoff: considering I have one, yes I'm sure
[14:22:00] GeckoFiend: so all in all it's not really a frontend, rather a cheap way to watch SOME recordings
[14:22:00] amorphix: we all love Guinness
[14:22:00] Tommck: ahh
[14:22:00] GreyFoxx: GeckoFiend: Exactly
[14:22:00] XAD|onoff: roger... :-D
[14:22:00] Tommck: amorphix – while that's true, what does that have to do with anything?
[14:22:00] amorphix: i dunno, but im on my 2nd
[14:22:00] XAD|onoff: grey, what fileprotocols?? samba only??
[14:22:00] amorphix: i'll let u know on my 3rd
[14:22:00] Tommck: hell, I just had my first cup of coffee :)
[14:22:00] GreyFoxx: XAD|onoff: You can use the windows streaming software OR, boot it with the opensource mvpmc(mvpmc.sourceforge.net) software and have that talk to your backend/file server
[14:22:00] amorphix: :)
[14:23:00] GreyFoxx: XAD|onoff: The thing runs linux
[14:23:00] amorphix: Tommck: AM where you are?
[14:23:00] Tommck: Maryland, USA
[14:23:00] XAD|onoff: ahh... but then you don't get DivX support... right??
[14:23:00] GreyFoxx: XAD|onoff: I've only used nfs with it, I've never attempted samba
[14:23:00] amorphix: UK PM here
[14:23:00] GreyFoxx: XAD|onoff: Correct. Noone has really bothered working on the DivX conversion stuff
[14:23:00] XAD|onoff: ahh... ok... I see... it's a hack... not provided by Haup....
[14:24:00] amorphix: Maryland cookies?
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[14:24:00] Tommck: huh?
[14:24:00] GreyFoxx: XAD|onoff: The Mvpmc stuff allows access to a couple different pvr's, mythtv being one. You can see upcoming recordings, watch, delete etc. They are messing with EPG support and so on now
[14:25:00] XAD|onoff: grey, then thats quite different... I was talking about "retail" version...
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[14:25:00] XAD|onoff: then even DLinks can also support anything as they have/are working on hacking it too...
[14:26:00] Tommck: amorphix – what are Maryland cookies?
[14:26:00] GreyFoxx: the problem is that due to the very low memory in the thing there is no way it would run a full frontend
[14:27:00] XAD|onoff: Grey, not even using xterm and run remote from the server??
[14:27:00] amorphix: Tommck: its a brand sold in UK
[14:27:00] GreyFoxx: but as a cheap, small and quiet frontend for just playback of recordings it's fine. Depends on what your needs are
[14:27:00] Tommck: oh.. ok
[14:27:00] amorphix: Tommck: I thought they came from Maryland USA
[14:27:00] GreyFoxx: XAD|onoff: Huh? What do you mean?
[14:28:00] XAD|onoff: well, you don't run a complete frontend but only an xterm on it and then run the MythTV-frontend on the server...
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[14:29:00] GreyFoxx: No, you don't run "xterm" on it :) It doesn't run X Windows, it runs MicroWindows
[14:29:00] XAD|onoff: roger...
[14:29:00] GreyFoxx: And even if you export an X disploay (say through vnc) that's just visual, not audio
[14:30:00] GreyFoxx: But there has been some people messing around with trying some sort of vnclike method
[14:30:00] GreyFoxx: personally I don't see why they would bother.
[14:30:00] XAD|onoff: because they can... ;-)
[14:31:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[14:31:00] XAD|onoff: Grey, do you like it?? does it work well??
[14:31:00] XAD|onoff: would you buy it again or something else??
[14:32:00] GreyFoxx: Works fine for what it is, and it was cheap which is a plus :)
[14:33:00] evilbuny: anyone know how to exec a daemon after a usb ir device is plugged in and loaded by the hotplug system in linux?
[14:33:00] GreyFoxx: Simple to setup, and works well with my stuff, so it's worth it
[14:33:00] XAD|onoff: whats the WAF factor?? ;-)
[14:34:00] GreyFoxx: Likes it better than the PC we use to have in the bedroom :)
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[14:36:00] Tommck: XAD|onoff – Wife Acceptance Factor
[14:36:00] XAD|onoff: Tommck... not what it stands for... I asked for the factor level... ;-)
[14:37:00] Tommck: oh... :)
[14:37:00] XAD|onoff: Grey, you don't know of a cheap hacked frontend with a display on??
[14:38:00] GreyFoxx: What you you mean with "display on" ?
[14:38:00] GreyFoxx: err
[14:38:00] GreyFoxx: What do you mean with "display on" ?
[14:38:00] XAD|onoff: something to show text or info on....
[14:39:00] GreyFoxx: Are you asking about something with amonitor or screen built in ?
[14:39:00] GreyFoxx: or an LCD display?
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[14:39:00] XAD|onoff: yes... and that can be used as a myth frontend (need to make sure people don't think we are off topic ;-))
[14:40:00] GreyFoxx: I don't know of any in particular. But I haven't looked either
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[14:43:00] XAD|onoff: Grey, how stable is it??
[14:44:00] GreyFoxx: I don't have any problems with it
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[15:04:00] Mrgoose: anyone around
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[15:04:00] Mrgoose: sometimes when i start up my mythtv box i get this error http://pastebin.com/339635 , and when it happens and i try to cat /dev/video0 > /mnt/test.mpg it says no device /dev/video0 found . But when i boot up and i dont get that error it works fine
[15:05:00] GreyFoxx: That sounds like a #ivtv-dev question :)
[15:06:00] GreyFoxx: cause if that kernel module is crashing or dying then you wont be able to access the device :)
[15:06:00] Mrgoose2: cool
[15:07:00] Mrgoose2: sucks no one is hardly ever in there heh
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[15:07:00] GreyFoxx: You could always try the mailing list
[15:07:00] GreyFoxx: Either it archives or asking on it
[15:08:00] Mrgoose2: whats the link to the mailning list
[15:09:00] GreyFoxx: www.google.com
[15:15:00] Mrgoose2: which version of ivtv are you using?
[15:15:00] GreyFoxx: 0.2.0rc3i
[15:16:00] Mrgoose2: yea
[15:16:00] Mrgoose2: thats what i tried
[15:16:00] Mrgoose2: hmm
[15:16:00] Mrgoose2: there is a ivtv-0.3.7f
[15:16:00] GreyFoxx: I downloaded the source to rc3k but haven't had a problem so I haven't installed it
[15:16:00] syle: cat /dev/video0 > /mnt/test.mpg, what does that do exactly, is that to capture the screen off the tv tuner card?
[15:16:00] Mrgoose2: yes
[15:16:00] GreyFoxx: the 0.2.0 is considered the "stable" branch, 0.3.x is the more experimental one where much more development is going on
[15:17:00] Mrgoose2: ahh
[15:17:00] Mrgoose2: i'll give it a shot
[15:17:00] GreyFoxx: syle: If you have one of the pvr cards it will dump the mpeg stream into that file
[15:19:00] Mrgoose2: i even tried a .19 version
[15:19:00] syle: i ordered one of those cards, i been wondering if its gonna cause problems cause i have an onboard video on the motherboard
[15:19:00] GreyFoxx: the pvr card is acapture card, wont affect your outgoing video
[15:19:00] syle: sorry i mean the pci express card i ordered as well
[15:20:00] syle: replace the onboard video, wondering how i can switch between the 2
[15:20:00] GreyFoxx: Mrgoose: run a find on the modules directory and see if you have two msp3400.* files
[15:20:00] syle: obviously the onboard don;t have a svideo out to tv, thats why hehe
[15:21:00] GreyFoxx: I'm confused. You ordered a new video card to replace the old one and want to switch between them ?
[15:21:00] GreyFoxx: Why not just use the new one all the time ?
[15:21:00] syle: that is what i want
[15:21:00] Mrgoose2: GreyFoxx: find on modules?
[15:21:00] syle: but i know when i boot linux its gonna default to using that onboard video instead
[15:22:00] GreyFoxx: syle: No, it will default to whatever your bios is configured to use
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[15:22:00] GreyFoxx: I have an onboard video card, and my system doesn't even see it. It only sees the AGP card I put in
[15:23:00] syle: interesting, i don;t remember ever seeing options like that in bios, i;ll have to check it out
[15:23:00] GreyFoxx: Mrgoose: Yes, ensure that you don't have both the ivtv msp3400 module and the kernel msp3400 module
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[15:23:00] Mrgoose2: im my startup script directory i have
[15:23:00] Mrgoose2: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 25814 2005-01–22 16:11 rc.modules-2.6.10*
[15:23:00] Mrgoose2: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 25400 2005-06–05 23:41 rc.modules.bak*
[15:23:00] Mrgoose2: would that be tryin to load it twice?
[15:23:00] GreyFoxx: no
[15:23:00] Mrgoose2: hmm
[15:23:00] syle: dont; know about AGP thats the old school motherboards
[15:23:00] GreyFoxx: There is a /lib/KERNELVERSIONHERE/modules directory where the modules actually sit
[15:23:00] Mrgoose2: rc.modules-2.6.10* , im not even running a 2.6.10 kernel
[15:24:00] GreyFoxx: errr /lib/modules/KERNELVERSIONHERE I should say
[15:24:00] Mrgoose2: @mythbox:/lib/modules# ls
[15:24:00] Mrgoose2: 2.4.31/ 2.6.10/ ivtv-fw-dec.bin ivtv-fw-enc.bin
[15:24:00] Mrgoose2: im not even running 2.6.10
[15:24:00] Mrgoose2: i was but i uninstalled it
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[15:25:00] GreyFoxx: Mrgoose: if you are using 2.4.31 then do a find in that directory
[15:25:00] syle: i heard something in kernels before 2.6.11 are exploitable
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[15:26:00] GreyFoxx: 99% of exploits are local bugs only. So as long as the person can't you it to remote affect you it
[15:26:00] GreyFoxx: s usually not that big a deal
[15:26:00] GreyFoxx: unless you allow other users local shell access :)
[15:27:00] Mrgoose2: GreyFoxx: i do believe i have ivtv compiled into the kernel
[15:27:00] XAD|onoff: syle, you are afraid of 2.6.11 has exploits but you are going to run MythTV??
[15:27:00] GreyFoxx: Mrgoose: No, it's a module, trust me
[15:27:00] syle: ?
[15:27:00] Mrgoose2: @mythbox:/lib/modules/2.4.31# find msp3400.*
[15:27:00] Mrgoose2: find: msp3400.*: No such file or directory
[15:27:00] GreyFoxx: find . -name msp3400\*
[15:28:00] Mrgoose2: find . -name msp3400\*
[15:28:00] Mrgoose2: ./kernel/drivers/media/video/msp3400.o.gz
[15:28:00] Mrgoose2: ./kernel/drivers/media/video/msp3400.o
[15:29:00] GreyFoxx: One of those is possibly the kernel supplied one and one is the ivtv one
[15:29:00] GreyFoxx: what do you get if you search for ivtv\* ?
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[15:29:00] Mrgoose2: find . -name ivtv\*
[15:29:00] Mrgoose2: ./kernel/drivers/media/video/ivtv.o
[15:29:00] Mrgoose2: ./kernel/drivers/media/video/ivtv-fb.o
[15:30:00] GreyFoxx: Check the timestamp on the ivtv.o and compare to the two msp3400 files
[15:30:00] GreyFoxx: see if one matches
[15:30:00] GreyFoxx: likely the non.gz one
[15:31:00] Mrgoose2: timestamp match on the non.gz one
[15:31:00] GreyFoxx: try moving the .gz one somewhere else for the time being
[15:31:00] GreyFoxx: then run depmod -a
[15:31:00] CJC: Anybody good with mythphone?
[15:31:00] GreyFoxx: and try reloading the modules
[15:31:00] Mrgoose2: oh
[15:32:00] Mrgoose2: also when i upgraded to .20 i get this error when i depmod -a
[15:32:00] Mrgoose2: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.31/kernel/drivers/media/video/cx25840.o
[15:32:00] Mrgoose2: i didn't know if that was important or not
[15:32:00] Mrgoose2: since i dont use that module
[15:33:00] GreyFoxx: I don't use it either
[15:33:00] Mrgoose2: heh ok
[15:33:00] Mrgoose2: alright i'll try rebooting now
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[15:38:00] Mrgoose2: didn't come up after the first reboot
[15:38:00] Mrgoose2: i'll try about 10 times
[15:38:00] Mrgoose2: to see if it comes up
[15:38:00] GreyFoxx: The machine didn't boot?
[15:38:00] GreyFoxx: Or that error didn't occur ?
[15:39:00] Mrgoose2: that error didn't occur
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[15:39:00] Mrgoose2: but it never happened everytime, usually after like 2 reboots or so
[15:39:00] GreyFoxx: ahh
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[15:39:00] GreyFoxx: That alone would lead me to question hardware
[15:39:00] Mrgoose2: hmm
[15:42:00] Mrgoose2: yep still seems to be happening
[15:43:00] Mrgoose2: find . -name msp3400\*
[15:43:00] Mrgoose2: when i do that now
[15:43:00] Mrgoose2: nothing shows up
[15:43:00] GreyFoxx: are you in the /lib/modules/whatever directory ?
[15:43:00] Mrgoose2: i digress
[15:44:00] Mrgoose2: yea only that one msp3400 shows up now, but still get that error
[15:45:00] GreyFoxx: The rfact that it's not every boot, would make me think it's hardware issue.
[15:45:00] Mrgoose2: brb gotta restart this work pc
[15:45:00] GreyFoxx: but have fun figuring it out :)
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[16:01:00] Mrgoose2: hmm
[16:01:00] Mrgoose2: i hope its not hardware
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[16:14:00] CJC: Hi everybody. Does somebody here use mythphone?
[16:16:00] Hoxzer: how do they usually end a letter in England?
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[16:24:00] CJC: Hoxzer: I usually see them close with "Cheers"
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[16:39:00] awb4422: I'm having a problem with the pvr-350 tv-out. I have everything set up correctly as far as i can tell from Jarod's Guide, but there is no output to the tv, and when my computer boots up, X never starts, i just see a solid cursor on the screen
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[16:42:00] LoggingIsWrong: You don't see any grey?
[16:42:00] awb4422: nothing
[16:42:00] epoch: so uh
[16:43:00] epoch: what's wrong with logging?
[16:43:00] awb4422: just the cursor
[16:43:00] awb4422: it boots up and does the udev thing
[16:44:00] LoggingIsWrong: privacy issues, of course
[16:44:00] epoch: weird
[16:44:00] epoch: most people object to the environmental impact
[16:44:00] LoggingIsWrong: Always err on the side of privacy.
[16:44:00] ** epoch chuckles **
[16:44:00] Beirdo: if you don't like logging, you can leave right now
[16:44:00] Beirdo: :)
[16:44:00] Beirdo: this channel is logged :)
[16:45:00] epoch: privacy advocates are criminals!
[16:45:00] LoggingIsWrong: I'm mildly obfuscating
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[16:45:00] epoch: if you have something to hide, you deserve to be exposed!
[16:45:00] epoch: and so forth
[16:45:00] Beirdo: if ya want privacy, stay the hell off IRC, there's no expectation of privacy here
[16:46:00] Mrgoose2: Beirdo: you got any ideas
[16:46:00] Mrgoose2: sometimes when i start up my mythtv box i get this error http://pastebin.com/339635 , and when it happens and i try to cat /dev/video0 > /mnt/test.mpg it says no device /dev/video0 found . But when i boot up and i dont get that error it works fine
[16:46:00] Mrgoose2: so i tried upgrading to the new version and still sometimes it comes up fine then other times this happens . http://pastebin.com/339850
[16:46:00] Beirdo: meh
[16:46:00] Beirdo: dunno
[16:46:00] LoggingIsWrong: Beirdo: Not an expectation, but it is polite.
[16:46:00] Mrgoose2: ok
[16:46:00] GreyFoxx: Beirdo: Mythfrontend running and playing (using x11 only since I haven't tested xv yet) under openbsd : http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/mythtv-openbsdvm.jpg
[16:46:00] Beirdo: well done, GreyFoxx
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[16:47:00] awb4422: ok well i think i made some progress. I turned off rhgb in grub.conf, now i get to a login screen
[16:47:00] Beirdo: LoggingIsWrong: there is no expectation for privacy in a public channel. Live with it. And I will continue to log this channel for the good of the public
[16:47:00] awb4422: no output on the tv yet, and after a few minutes, the login screen goes to the cursor again
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[16:48:00] GreyFoxx: "for the good of the public"? I don't disagree with the logging part, I find that part a little hard to swallow. fsck the public :)
[16:48:00] LoggingIsWrong: Beirdo: Aren't you the one that refers people to the mailing lists? I wonder how much good it does, really.
[16:48:00] awb4422: its helped me a few times..coming across irc logs of problems
[16:48:00] Beirdo: GreyFoxx: OK, for the good of US.. so they can go search what's already been said when they miss shit
[16:49:00] LoggingIsWrong: DRC? (delayed relay chat)
[16:49:00] GreyFoxx: The mailing lists, and google are full of tons of info once you wade through the noise :)
[16:49:00] Mrgoose2: GreyFoxx: i dont see an option to subscribe to the ivtv mailng list
[16:49:00] GreyFoxx: Mrgoose: Then you aren't looking very hard
[16:50:00] Beirdo: GreyFoxx: aye, and the channel logs are seen by google :)
[16:50:00] Mrgoose2: heh i see subscribe to digest
[16:50:00] Mrgoose2: and i click that and it says to scroll to the bottom to subscribe to list
[16:51:00] GreyFoxx: Mrgoose: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ivtv-devel
[16:51:00] Mrgoose2: nevermind
[16:51:00] Mrgoose2: i found it
[16:51:00] Mrgoose2: oh
[16:51:00] Mrgoose2: yea
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[16:58:00] awb4422: Still no output from my pvr-350 :( I've gone through jarod's guide 3 times triple checking everything
[16:59:00] awb4422: if i'm ssh'ed into the system is there a way that i can tell which users are currently logged in?
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[17:00:00] jams: awb4422, who
[17:01:00] LoggingIsWrong: damn owls
[17:01:00] awb4422: mythtv user
[17:01:00] Mrgoose2: GreyFoxx: would my kernel version have anything to do it
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[17:04:00] GreyFoxx: Mrgoose: I used 2.4.x up until last January with no problem, but haven't used it since, so I couldn't say
[17:04:00] Mrgoose2: hmm
[17:04:00] Mrgoose2: i dunno what the problem could be
[17:09:00] awb4422: is there any way to set this option: PVR-350 output users need to enable use of the 350's decoder. Go into Settings ? TV Settings ? Playback and go to the "Use PVR-350 Output" screen
[17:09:00] awb4422: via the command line?
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[17:10:00] GreyFoxx: you could do it via the SQL database, but that's so that Myth will use it for playback, that wont help if your not even seeing X/mythfrontend on the tv output
[17:11:00] awb4422: well i want that on if im using 350 output though right?
[17:11:00] GreyFoxx: Yes, if you want to use the 350's mpeg decoder you will want it. But I think that if you can't even seen the menu's you have something more important to fix :)
[17:12:00] awb4422: lol ok – i thought that could be the reason i couldnt see them
[17:12:00] GreyFoxx: No, that is just for playback. If you are not seeing X or the frontend menus that has nothing to do with that particular setting
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[17:14:00] Mrgoose2: GreyFoxx: i'll try upgrading my kernel
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[17:14:00] hadees: Beirdo, is there anyway to search your irclog?
[17:14:00] Beirdo: not built-in, but google crawls it
[17:15:00] hadees: Beirdo, thanks
[17:15:00] GreyFoxx: http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/, open the day and hit CTRL-F in most browsers ;)
[17:15:00] Beirdo: yeah, that too
[17:15:00] hadees: GreyFoxx, well i am not sure which day, i am trying to find someone else with the problem i am having
[17:16:00] hadees: not much luck in the mailing list
[17:16:00] GreyFoxx: ahh
[17:16:00] Mrgoose2: GreyFoxx: what kernel you using?
[17:16:00] GreyFoxx: My backend is using 2.6.11.5
[17:16:00] Mrgoose2: hmm
[17:16:00] GreyFoxx: the frontends are different versions I believe
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[17:43:00] LoggingIsWrong: haha
[17:44:00] LoggingIsWrong: I tricked fate
[17:46:00] Mrgoose2: ?
[17:47:00] LoggingIsWrong: I distracted it and got an offer for a job while it was focused on screwing me over in other ways.
[17:47:00] awb4422: im going to buy a new cable, thats the last thing it could be i think
[17:47:00] LoggingIsWrong: Fate can be short-sighted.
[17:50:00] GreyFoxx: Nah, it just has longterm plans. You get the little victories and it screws you over just when you think you are winning
[17:50:00] Beirdo: NP: Extreme – Warheads
[17:51:00] Beirdo: been a while since I knew where this CD was
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[18:13:00] ** xris pokes kormoc|afk **
[18:14:00] Mrgoose2: xris
[18:14:00] xris: that's me nick
[18:14:00] xris: my nick, even, were I not accidentally pretending to be irish.
[18:14:00] Mrgoose2: sometimes when i start up my mythtv box i get this error http://pastebin.com/339635 , and when it happens and i try to cat /dev/video0 > /mnt/test.mpg it says no device /dev/video0 found . But when i boot up and i dont get that error it works fine
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[18:19:00] xris: Mrgoose2: sounds like an ivtv bug
[18:19:00] xris: when it happens, have you then tried to modprobe ivtv manually?
[18:19:00] LoggingIsWrong: So most people with hdtv cards couple them with pvr cards or other capture cards?
[18:20:00] Mrgoose2: xris: no
[18:20:00] xris: LoggingIsWrong: I do... but I can only use my air2pc for OTA stuff...
[18:20:00] Mrgoose2: it doens't happen everytime, just happens sometimes
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[18:20:00] Mrgoose2: also happens in all versions of ivtv
[18:20:00] xris: Mrgoose2: dunno why, but my system requires that I manually (well, via rc.local) modprobe it.
[18:20:00] LoggingIsWrong: xris: I guess the hd-3000 has analog inputs for capture, but no tuner
[18:20:00] xris: Mrgoose2: odd
[18:21:00] Mrgoose2: maybe its my kernel version
[18:21:00] xris: LoggingIsWrong: I thought it had a tuner, too.. but they're software-encoded inputs... meaning, crappy quality compared to something like a pvr-150
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[18:22:00] LoggingIsWrong: xris: But the best mpeg-2 (not linux mind you) encoders are software.
[18:22:00] Beirdo: whatever
[18:22:00] Beirdo: anyways, I'm off for a company event
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[18:22:00] Beirdo: you all have fun
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[18:23:00] __pete: Hi, here is a really stupid question, but I have (after some work) managed to get mythTv to install from source, and don't know how to run the app!!
[18:23:00] LoggingIsWrong: pete: Did you consult the documentation?
[18:24:00] xris: LoggingIsWrong: but mythtv doesn't encode in mpeg2
[18:24:00] __pete: LoggingIsWrong : Im reading some of it now
[18:24:00] LoggingIsWrong: xris: true, but good mpeg-4 should meet or exceed mpeg-2
[18:24:00] xris: LoggingIsWrong: unless it's optimized for realtime encoding.
[18:24:00] xris: plus, it's more about the quality of things like the comb filter in the tuner card....
[18:26:00] xris: I can tell you that at the same bitrate, the mpeg4 from my pctvpro bttv card is FAR worse than the mpeg2 from my pvr-150
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[18:28:00] LoggingIsWrong: Is the pvr-150 working well under linux?
[18:28:00] LoggingIsWrong: ISTR them being cheap.
[18:29:00] LoggingIsWrong: 67.99 shipped
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[18:32:00] __pete: Another stupid question, where are the binaries like mythtv-setup located?
[18:32:00] Krazylegz: whereis mythtv-setup
[18:32:00] __pete: tried that, didnt produce any results
[18:32:00] Krazylegz: __pete: That will tell you.
[18:32:00] Krazylegz: Are you root? They might not be in your path.
[18:33:00] LoggingIsWrong: pete: I don't think it gets installed by make. Is there a setup directory in the source tree?
[18:33:00] __pete: i have run it as root, and as my user
[18:33:00] __pete: yes there is
[18:33:00] maniacxs: __pete, locate mythtv-setup
[18:33:00] Krazylegz: whereis mythtv-setup
[18:33:00] Krazylegz: mythtv-setup: /usr/bin/mythtv-setup
[18:33:00] __pete: i don't get that, i just get nothing
[18:33:00] Krazylegz: You might have to do make install first, like LoggingIsWrong is saying.
[18:33:00] __pete: I did make install as root
[18:34:00] Krazylegz: Oh.
[18:34:00] LoggingIsWrong: Actually, I was saying I don't think it gets installed.
[18:34:00] Chutt: it gets installed.
[18:34:00] Chutt: someone's not following the docs, though
[18:34:00] __pete: i did have to compile './compile --enable-dvb --disable-joystick-menu'
[18:35:00] LoggingIsWrong: I guess I'd still rather encode analog on a card even if I have (eventually) hdtv too, so I might as well get a pvr card.
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[18:37:00] LoggingIsWrong: Can you capture any digital channels from a cable box over firewire or just hdtv?
[18:38:00] __pete: Just went into /setup and ran 'make' but it gave errors about JoystickMenuEventLock (which i guess is my fault, as i disabled it during configure, but needed to, as on the previous make it complaned about linux/joystick.h within the kernel source)
[18:39:00] LoggingIsWrong: The joystick errors I get are harmless.
[18:39:00] LoggingIsWrong: As in "there's no damn joystick."
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[18:40:00] __pete: but the make stopped at that point
[18:42:00] __pete: In file included from jsmenu.cpp:39:
[18:42:00] __pete: /usr/src/linux-2.6.11.4–21.8/include/linux/joystick.h:142:2: #error Unexpected BITS_PER_LONG
[18:43:00] __pete: I thought that i wouldn't need joystick support, so re-ran configure with --disable-joystick-menu
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[18:46:00] gf: anyone know why when i login to my regular account my resolution is fine but when i log into my mythtv account the desktop is much larger than the screen?
[18:47:00] LoggingIsWrong: You have a virtual resolution that's greater than any real resolution that's possible, but you probably set the resolution in your regular account via the gui preferences.
[18:47:00] gf: yes
[18:48:00] gf: how do i make them all 800x600
[18:48:00] LoggingIsWrong: Consult /var/log/xorg.0.log or /var/log/XFree86.0.log, then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf or /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[18:51:00] gf: i added "800x600" to all the modes as the first res
[18:51:00] gf: and thats what f'ed them all up
[18:53:00] LoggingIsWrong: You'll have to take out those larger than that.
[18:53:00] LoggingIsWrong: But I think you can actually switch on the fly via xrandr
[18:54:00] LoggingIsWrong: I believe that's how mythtv does it itself.
[18:54:00] gf: what is xrandr?
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[18:55:00] LoggingIsWrong: man xrandr
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[19:02:00] Krazylegz: I wonder how many tuners the average MythTV user has setup (including master and slave backends).
[19:03:00] LoggingIsWrong: 1 is probably common
[19:03:00] gf: ty logging
[19:03:00] LoggingIsWrong: 1.1 is probably average :)
[19:03:00] Krazylegz: True.
[19:03:00] LoggingIsWrong: gf: Some day you're going to tell me whose gf you are.
[19:03:00] Krazylegz: Though, seems like people are using more PVR-500s now.
[19:04:00] LoggingIsWrong: Off to my second interview of the day (what a day)
[19:04:00] Krazylegz: Sure, but later, "Oh what a night!" :-)
[19:04:00] LoggingIsWrong: Well, it is my birthday.
[19:04:00] LoggingIsWrong: I'm hoping my wife makes it a special night.
[19:05:00] Krazylegz: TMI.
[19:05:00] _donofrio: will this device work well with myth? WinTV-USB-FM
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[19:08:00] Krazylegz: _donofrio: Let me put it this way. If everyone bought a PVR-250/350, helping people would be a lot easier.
[19:08:00] Krazylegz: I presume it would work just fine with Myth, as long as you could find good Linux driver for it.
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[20:52:00] anurag: does mythtv has any module that can burn tv shows on vcd?
[20:54:00] Rince: nuvexport
[21:00:00] anurag: Rince: it comes with an interface for mythv?
[21:00:00] anurag: the homepage says its a wrapper
[21:01:00] Rince: yes, it's just a wrapper
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[21:54:00] xris: test
[21:54:00] ** xris grumbles about firewall troubles. **
[22:03:00] Chutt: no irc for you!
[22:10:00] xris: apparently no internet, either.
[22:10:00] xris: running a multiple-provider firewall is a PITA
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[22:48:00] LoggingIsWrong: Worst Buy wants $200 for a pvr-150
[22:50:00] xris: LoggingIsWrong: link?
[22:50:00] cochi is now known as cochi|away
[22:50:00] xris: that sounds pretty messed-up, since the msrp for the card is only $75 or so
[22:51:00] xris: sorry, $100 msrp for the retail card
[22:52:00] xris: lol, holy crap. that's f'd up.
[22:52:00] LoggingIsWrong: Worst Buy is a foul, steaming pile
[22:53:00] LoggingIsWrong: They don't even have real sales.
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[22:53:00] kormoc: so why shop there?
[22:53:00] xris: more likely, someone fat-fingered the price.
[22:54:00] xris: says "not available" anyway.
[22:54:00] LoggingIsWrong: It's only in the most desperate state of impulse that I consider it.
[22:54:00] LoggingIsWrong: It's my birthday and I got a new job today.
[22:54:00] xris: but they're the ONLY place I can see that I can buy a new iriver 899 player from... so I'll save up for that price until I can find somewhere else that sells it.
[22:54:00] LoggingIsWrong: I figure I can't do wrong.
[22:55:00] xris: LoggingIsWrong: so what's up with the nick?
[22:55:00] LoggingIsWrong: logging is wrong
[22:55:00] xris: so you say....
[22:56:00] xris: most of us here find it quite handy for helping people.
[22:56:00] LoggingIsWrong: I just want to _i_rc, not have my conversations posted all over google
[22:56:00] xris: well, just so you know that it rubs people the wrong way to be blatantly confrontational about it.
[22:57:00] LoggingIsWrong: fair enough
[22:57:00] ** xris pokes Beirdo with a stick to see if he's still alive. **
[22:57:00] LoggingIsWrong: He already commented.
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[22:58:00] xris: (that was not related to the logging question)
[22:59:00] ** xris gives up on Beirdo and starts covering him up with dirt.... **
[23:01:00] kormoc: What rolls down stairs, goes over repairs, and runs over your neighbor's dog? It's made of wood, you know its good, ITS LOG!
[23:01:00] LoggingIsWrong: too bad this usb2 thing wouldn't work
[23:01:00] ** GeckoFiend shows LoggingIsWrong the channel exit door... **
[23:01:00] GeckoFiend: Don't like loggging? Don't come here, that simple
[23:02:00] LoggingIsWrong: My response to not liking it is rather obvious. I'm not the one picking fights over it.
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[23:02:00] xris: LoggingIsWrong: like I said, your nick just rubs people the wrong way.
[23:03:00] LoggingIsWrong is now known as m1x8czl
[23:03:00] kormoc: I actually thought it was about real logging of forests.
[23:03:00] m1x8czl: Is minor obfuscation less frictional?
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[23:06:00] xris: since it just looks like a messed-up nick instead of a complaint about how we do stuff here, yes.
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[23:06:00] m1x8czl: I just can't win.
[23:06:00] m1x8czl: I thought it was rather mild actually.
[23:07:00] m1x8czl is now known as DonutLogMe
[23:07:00] xris: you're welcome to keep the other one.. just sounds like a childish complaint, esp. since it won't change how things work here.
[23:07:00] DonutLogMe: It's a drop in the pond.
[23:07:00] syle: I masterbate in the FACE of death muhahaha
[23:08:00] DonutLogMe: Really though, it's not worth it.
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[23:09:00] ** syle is all NATURAL! **
[23:09:00] ** kormoc raises a eyebrow. **
[23:10:00] kormoc: I would have lived the rest of my life quite well not having that peice of information floating in my head...
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[23:13:00] andrew__: hey all – how do i compile something that you have to qmake first?
[23:14:00] andrew__: i did qmake but when i go to compile it i get an error saying no rule for target ....qmake.conf
[23:16:00] xris: andrew__: what are you compiling?
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[23:16:00] andrew__: torrentocracy
[23:16:00] xris: can't help... not here, anywy.
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[23:16:00] andrew__: i want to try it out and see if its worth mentioning on my site
[23:17:00] ** xris pokes Beirdo again **
[23:17:00] kormoc: andrew__, please read the channel faq, that's a topic that we can't discuss in here.
[23:18:00] andrew__: kormoc, got it
[23:18:00] gf: why does teh album art look like complete shite in mythmusic?
[23:18:00] andrew__: gf – crappy music gets crappy art ;)
[23:18:00] gf: :o
[23:19:00] kormoc: gf, likly cause it's scaled not well
[23:19:00] gf: what size are they supposed to be
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[23:19:00] gf: cuz they look fine in other programs
[23:20:00] hadees: gf, they might be shrinking them
[23:20:00] hadees: generally you display tv at a lower res
[23:20:00] kormoc: donno, depends on the theme I'd venture
[23:21:00] gf: yea i have a bunch that look better
[23:21:00] gf: but some look like utter crap
[23:21:00] gf: after i do visualize
[23:21:00] gf: some look decent
[23:21:00] hadees: that doesn't make much sense
[23:21:00] hadees: but then again neither does any of my problems
[23:22:00] gf: sweet, it froze :D
[23:22:00] hadees: keyboard too?
[23:23:00] gf: yea it came back
[23:23:00] gf: after a bit
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[23:24:00] gf: time to install xine as mplayer cant play any of my recorded videos
[23:24:00] gf: well non-myth ones that is
[23:25:00] kormoc: sounds like you installed mplayer wrong
[23:25:00] gf: does it play avis with xvid and divx codecs?
[23:25:00] kormoc: yes
[23:25:00] gf: hmmm
[23:25:00] gf: well i didnt install any of the codecs yet either
[23:25:00] gf: so maybe thats why
[23:26:00] kormoc: one would think so
[23:26:00] gf: ;)
[23:26:00] gf: does libdvix4linux cover xvid as well?
[23:26:00] kormoc: don't think so
[23:27:00] kormoc: xvid covers xvid
[23:27:00] gf: i think xvid does divx too
[23:27:00] kormoc: no, not really
[23:27:00] gf: in teh windows world at least
[23:28:00] Raven_301: Hi all ... Looking to build a PVR ... looking for help on linux sound cards with optical in/out. Any help would be great
[23:28:00] kormoc: gf, http://www.xvid.org/
[23:28:00] kormoc: Raven_301, sound blaster live/audigy 1/2/4 would be your best bet
[23:28:00] kormoc: Raven_301, just make sure it's supported under alsa
[23:29:00] Raven_301: kormoc: ok thanks ... so they have optical in/out?
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[23:29:00] kormoc: Raven_301, some of them do, most don't
[23:30:00] Raven_301: kormoc: ok ... looking to put it through surround system
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[23:33:00] hadees: Raven_301, i have heard M-audio is the best
[23:33:00] Raven_301: hadees: How makes it?
[23:33:00] hadees: not exactly sure, can't afford the best
[23:33:00] hadees: Raven_301, a good site is avsforums.com
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[23:34:00] Raven_301: hadees: ok ... great ... thanks
[23:34:00] hadees: they have a linux htpc forum
[23:34:00] hadees: those guys tend to like the finer things
[23:35:00] hadees: GreyFoxx, with your openbsd port are you also moving over ivtv?
[23:35:00] hadees: or just using software encoding
[23:35:00] kormoc: Raven_301, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829102181
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[23:36:00] Raven_301: Nice kormoc ... thanks
[23:36:00] kormoc: Raven_301, http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.ph . . . _Labs#matrix
[23:37:00] kormoc: Raven_301, so it appears it's supported fine, but as with all things linux, it very well may not
[23:37:00] Raven_301: kormoc: thanks again, that will help alot :)
[23:38:00] k-man_: hello
[23:38:00] k-man_: how does one tell mythtv to use lirc?
[23:38:00] k-man_: and how do you set up lirc to send commands to mythtv?
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[23:48:00] mchou: sigh.....nothing good lasts forever.....
[23:49:00] mchou: I set up tor last night only to find out freenode/irc shut down tor due to ABUSE.
[23:51:00] mchou: but otherwise tor is pretty cool.....
[23:52:00] jobi: hi all
[23:52:00] jobi: I have setup a mythbackend and am now trying to schedule recordings through mythweb
[23:53:00] jobi: I have setup a manual record, which appears in "Recording Schedules"
[23:53:00] gf: xine question
[23:53:00] gf: how do i have it play my avi files in mythvideo?
[23:53:00] jobi: but when the time comes, it doesn't start recording (nothing happens)
[23:54:00] jobi: if I check backend status, the job queue is empty, as is the schedule
[23:55:00] jobi: when I validate the schedule the logs in mythbackend say:
[23:55:00] gf: nvm
[23:55:00] jobi: Reschedule requested for id 10.
[23:55:00] jobi: Scheduled 0 items in 0.6 = 0.35 match + 0.27 place
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[23:59:00] gf: any idea how to get xine to kill after u stop teh video?

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