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| [00:12:00] | ziba: | hi. anybody here? |
| [00:12:00] | Krazylegz: | Maybe. |
| [00:12:00] | kormoc: | nope, just 142 bots. |
| [00:12:00] | ziba: | only if I don't ask something stupid eh? |
| [00:12:00] | Krazylegz: | !list |
| [00:12:00] | Krazylegz: | Oooooo. |
| [00:13:00] | ziba: | I've been reading forums, but haven't seen my situation exactly |
| [00:14:00] | ziba: | I've got myth tv running and the db populated with channels and shows. the program guide shows lost of programs, but I'm getting checkchannel failed when I try to change channels. |
| [00:14:00] | ziba: | Please verify channel "" in the "setup" Channel Editor. |
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| [00:15:00] | ziba: | and all channels in the db have what look like full records to me |
| [00:15:00] | ziba: | am I embarassing myself with a stupid question? |
| [00:15:00] | Krazylegz: | Did you check your channels in the Channel Editor? |
| [00:15:00] | ziba: | the channel editor has lots of channels |
| [00:16:00] | Beirdo: | ziba: check the "starting channel" for the card in the setup |
| [00:16:00] | ziba: | with no obvious (to me_ missing info |
| [00:16:00] | Beirdo: | it has to be set to a valid channel |
| [00:16:00] | ziba: | double checking . . . |
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| [00:20:00] | ziba: | Berido: yeah, it's valid |
| [00:20:00] | ziba: | but mythtv just starts and stays on whatever channel I left the tuner on with the last tv app I used |
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| [00:21:00] | Beirdo: | did you restart your backend after changing the setup? |
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| [00:22:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, home time for me |
| [00:23:00] | ziba: | thanks much Beirdo |
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| [00:52:00] | dmz: | if i have a pvr350, and have cable input via the tuner and plan on adding my dish through the svideo in (just ordered irblaster:), as long as there aren't schedule conflicts things should work ok right? and watching tv will work ok correct? |
| [00:54:00] | syle: | try it |
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| [00:56:00] | dmz: | i'm going to once the irblaster comes in |
| [00:57:00] | dmz: | just thought i'd ask. i'm thinking it will |
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| [01:01:00] | mchou: | goddamn enron! |
| [01:01:00] | dougl: | GreyFoxx: you here... thinking about slackware. |
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| [01:06:00] | k-man_: | anyone here ever set up lirc to use /dev/input/eventX? |
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| [01:33:00] | Beirdo: | yawn |
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| [01:35:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, brew some wake up alcohols |
| [01:35:00] | xris: | Beirdo: 4 of the 5 people who've sent in resumes so far actually followed directions |
| [01:35:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:35:00] | Beirdo: | not bad, xris |
| [01:36:00] | xris: | and one gains points for including a hobbies section that includes keywords "making wine and beer" |
| [01:36:00] | Beirdo: | I need sleep or something :) |
| [01:36:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:36:00] | xris: | and he plays go |
| [01:36:00] | Beirdo: | oooh |
| [01:36:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [01:36:00] | Beirdo: | hope he's not a complete dork |
| [01:36:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:37:00] | Beirdo: | he needs to start using Myth |
| [01:37:00] | xris: | and... we went to the same U as my wife. |
| [01:37:00] | Beirdo: | does she know him? |
| [01:37:00] | Beirdo: | that would be scary |
| [01:37:00] | xris: | will ask her when I get home. she's offline |
| [01:38:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:38:00] | Beirdo: | if she says "he's a real asshole"... shred the resume :) |
| [01:38:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:38:00] | cosmo__: | whats wrong with go? |
| [01:39:00] | cosmo__: | ;) |
| [01:39:00] | Beirdo: | nothing |
| [01:39:00] | Beirdo: | but some go players are complete dorks :) |
| [01:39:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:39:00] | xris: | cosmo__: nothing. that was a good thing |
| [01:39:00] | Beirdo: | I think xris would rather have a partial dork |
| [01:40:00] | Beirdo: | no SCA on the resumes yet? |
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| [01:41:00] | xris: | nope |
| [01:42:00] | kormoc: | "Hello new employeer! I like to dress up and carry around sharp things! Do hire me!" |
| [01:42:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:42:00] | Beirdo: | except in this case it might win points |
| [01:42:00] | kormoc: | true, but when you don't know for sure... :P |
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| [01:43:00] | xris: | Beirdo: if I *don't* hire the guy, I'll at least ask him if he wants to help with cooktools. he's already working on a php/css wine/beer managing program with a local winemaker |
| [01:43:00] | xris: | but... utter relief that I'm getting qualified applicants this time. |
| [01:43:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: Do you have a pay scale for that job yet? |
| [01:43:00] | xris: | and only one (so far) hasn't followed directions. |
| [01:44:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: DOE... $15–25, probably |
| [01:44:00] | Krazylegz: | I'm about to sign this agreement. |
| [01:44:00] | xris: | (per hour) |
| [01:44:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah. I'll have to sign this one then. I could have worked for a Myth Man! |
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| [01:46:00] | Beirdo: | xris: cool. |
| [01:48:00] | Agrajag-: | what were the directions? |
| [01:50:00] | kormoc: | Agrajag-, a text only resume or a link to a html resume, no .docs or similar. |
| [01:51:00] | Beirdo: | should asked for XML or TeX |
| [01:54:00] | Agrajag-: | no pdf? |
| [01:54:00] | Agrajag-: | i'd accept pdf :) |
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| [01:54:00] | Agrajag-: | company i work for has just hired two php developers |
| [01:54:00] | Agrajag-: | the amount of extremely crap resumes we got for those positions was amazing |
| [01:55:00] | Krazylegz: | "Write an application interpretable by Perl AND PHP that outputs your formatted resume." |
| [01:55:00] | Agrajag-: | i can't believe people don't bother (or don't know how) to write a proper, good, short resume, tailored for the job spec |
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| [02:01:00] | butabi: | hi guys |
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| [02:02:00] | juski: | ok I'm back |
| [02:04:00] | juski: | I broke my database (no applause please)... but I managed to restore it... only thing is the backup didn't cover some shows. I've managed to insert the new programs into the database BUT there are no recorded markup entries... is there an easy(ish) way to put them back in.. or will I have to re-insert them myself? |
| [02:04:00] | Beirdo: | mythcommflag |
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| [02:05:00] | Beirdo: | will take a while thought :) |
| [02:05:00] | Beirdo: | though even |
| [02:05:00] | juski: | thanks beirdo |
| [02:05:00] | butabi: | ne1 knows why my tv picture hangs about every 1 second? |
| [02:05:00] | juski: | I can live with it taking a while – I need to be able to seek through my recordings :-) |
| [02:06:00] | juski: | (and there are only four files to do) |
| [02:06:00] | butabi: | any chance to activate hardware decoding for a hauppauge dvb card (nexus-s)? |
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| [02:08:00] | juski: | butabi – you're not using a Via EPIA board are you by any chance? |
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| [02:08:00] | butabi: | nope |
| [02:08:00] | butabi: | and also no pvr350 |
| [02:09:00] | butabi: | i just thought hardware decoding could get rid of my problem |
| [02:10:00] | butabi: | my tv image hangs every 1 seconds, no smooth playback, dont know how to explain ... |
| [02:10:00] | butabi: | pic is otherwise clear |
| [02:10:00] | NightBird: | hm... |
| [02:10:00] | purplefrog: | Have you tried copying the .nuv files to another host and playing them there? |
| [02:10:00] | NightBird: | so I'm looking into replacing my old video card(as it's going to be dieing soon).. |
| [02:11:00] | NightBird: | for my pvr system |
| [02:11:00] | purplefrog: | I have stuttering playback if I try to stream the video over 802.11g to a laptop. Not enough bandwidth to play the fat files. |
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| [02:13:00] | juski: | I have the odd stutterring file on my EPIA board with MPEG decoder – it doesn't like MPEGs with more than one soundtrack |
| [02:13:00] | juski: | which is why I asked |
| [02:13:00] | butabi: | i have stuttering in my livetv :) |
| [02:13:00] | butabi: | and i want to get rid of it :) |
| [02:13:00] | juski: | how do the recordings look, butabi? |
| [02:14:00] | geckofiend: | juski The whole "doesn't like MPEGs with more than one soundtrack" really doesn't make any sense. it's not like there's anything magical about mutliple audio streams |
| [02:14:00] | purplefrog: | How fast is your CPU? |
| [02:14:00] | juski: | geckofiend – apparently the unichrome mpeg decoder doesn't like them |
| [02:15:00] | geckofiend: | juski the unichrome mpeg driver doesn't decode audio |
| [02:15:00] | butabi: | juski: i didnt look at the recordings, havent recorded anything yet, just installed the box |
| [02:15:00] | butabi: | hell, i dont even know the correct keys to record :) |
| [02:15:00] | juski: | always with the live TV, you peeps... |
| [02:16:00] | juski: | go to the program guide & schedule a recording – see how it looks when you play it back |
| [02:16:00] | butabi: | my cpu is a p3–500 |
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| [02:16:00] | juski: | you checked for DMA on your HDD? |
| [02:17:00] | purplefrog: | butabi, that CPU might just be too weak. I have an AMD Athlon 2600 (1.9GHz) in mine. Good call, juski. |
| [02:17:00] | purplefrog: | hdparm /dev/hda (or whatever your device is) |
| [02:17:00] | geckofiend: | butabi you're going to need to set your recording profiles to low resoltion and low bitrates |
| [02:18:00] | geckofiend: | ore use XvMC |
| [02:18:00] | butabi: | i dont even want to record, i just want to watch |
| [02:18:00] | juski: | we've just sold another $25 Nvidia card. Yay! |
| [02:18:00] | purplefrog: | xawtv might be for you. |
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| [02:18:00] | geckofiend: | can't watch without recording |
| [02:18:00] | geckofiend: | and it' |
| [02:18:00] | kormoc: | butabi, or tvtime |
| [02:18:00] | butabi: | but i want myth :) |
| [02:18:00] | geckofiend: | and it's not the reording that's the provblem it's the load on your CPU decoding |
| [02:19:00] | purplefrog: | butabi, if you want myth, drop some money on a modern machine. |
| [02:19:00] | juski: | yeh butabi... mythtv is a little ermm... top heavy for just viewing TV.. |
| [02:19:00] | purplefrog: | The one thing I regret about my $700 host is that I didn't spring for more than 256M of RAM. |
| [02:20:00] | purplefrog: | It can do mythtv fine, but if I want to do something else at the same time, I start paging. |
| [02:21:00] | butabi: | while watching tv, my cpu is mostly idle |
| [02:21:00] | purplefrog: | butabi, what's hdparm report? |
| [02:21:00] | butabi: | could you give me a syntax here plz? |
| [02:21:00] | purplefrog: | hdparm /dev/hda |
| [02:22:00] | juski: | butabi it'll report a list of stuff, including whether or not DMA is being used |
| [02:22:00] | butabi: | using_dma = 1 (on) |
| [02:22:00] | juski: | what else is running while you've got mythtv up? |
| [02:22:00] | purplefrog: | So that's not the issue. |
| [02:22:00] | butabi: | it really doesnt look like any performance thing, its a periodic stuttering |
| [02:23:00] | butabi: | like its skipping one frame |
| [02:23:00] | purplefrog: | run "vmstat 10" and send me 5 lines in a PM. |
| [02:23:00] | butabi: | every second |
| [02:24:00] | butabi: | juski: its just mythtv and the backend, the only thing that could eat up memory is apache for mythvweb, but its idle |
| [02:24:00] | butabi: | i also tried to deactivate deinterlace, but thats not the problem |
| [02:24:00] | butabi: | i tried the libmpeg2 decoder, thats not the problem |
| [02:24:00] | juski: | butabi what video card you using? |
| [02:24:00] | butabi: | gf3 |
| [02:25:00] | juski: | should be ok |
| [02:25:00] | juski: | are you using the nvidia drivers? |
| [02:25:00] | purplefrog: | I can play video on crappy trident video cards on laptops from year 2000. |
| [02:25:00] | fronkonstin: | question: is there any way to edit the information about a recorded show? (i.e., title, description, etc) |
| [02:26:00] | purplefrog: | fronkonstin, there is no UI for it, but you could theoretically edit the tables in the mythconverg database (mysql) |
| [02:26:00] | juski: | fronkonstin – yup – you need an SQL editor thing – I use webmin but you can also use phpmyadmin |
| [02:26:00] | butabi: | i use nvidia drivers, yes |
| [02:26:00] | fronkonstin: | ok, I'll take a look at those... |
| [02:27:00] | juski: | OR you could learn some MYSQL commands... |
| [02:27:00] | butabi: | is mythtv recording automatically during livetv? a cache maybe? |
| [02:27:00] | fronkonstin: | yup, that isn't a problem, I know some sql... |
| [02:27:00] | butabi: | cause my hd blinks every second too |
| [02:27:00] | fronkonstin: | I just wanted to avoid getting my hands dirty, if possible... |
| [02:27:00] | purplefrog: | butabi, is that vmstat from when you are playing this blinky video? |
| [02:27:00] | butabi: | yes |
| [02:27:00] | fronkonstin: | or even better, point mythtv to an imdb entry and have it do everythin for me :) |
| [02:27:00] | purplefrog: | The thing I notice is that you have almost no disk IO in that vmstat output, and a LOT of interrupts. |
| [02:28:00] | butabi: | purplefrog: yes it is |
| [02:28:00] | ** juski yells "eek – is mythcommflag really only running at 25fps? zoiks" ** | |
| [02:28:00] | purplefrog: | wait, you do have disk io. It's almost pure output. |
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| [02:29:00] | hyperstream: | ive just did apt-get install mythtv mythtv-frontend mythtv-backend , and im up to the part where i need to su to mythtv user account. but i cannot access mythtv-setup , returns: no such command. i noticed it was with sh: |
| [02:29:00] | purplefrog: | so there are a lot of interrupts and context switches. I'm not sure what you could do about that. |
| [02:29:00] | butabi: | my HD led blinks every time my livetv pic blinks ... thats a sign |
| [02:29:00] | fronkonstin: | another question: what would be the right procedure to send a patch to mythtv? I've sent a trivial one to mythtv-dev a few days, but nobody's even acknowledged it... do I need to file a bug first? :) |
| [02:29:00] | juski: | maybe a more advanced hdparm is called for, butabi |
| [02:29:00] | butabi: | could it be the buffer? |
| [02:30:00] | juski: | butabi – try hdparm -t /dev/hda |
| [02:30:00] | butabi: | Timing buffered disk reads: 40 MB in 3.07 seconds = 13.04 MB/sec |
| [02:31:00] | purplefrog: | heh, -t "should be repeated 2–3 times on an otherwise inactive system" |
| [02:31:00] | juski: | sounds like ATA33 – but even that should be fast enough for this job |
| [02:31:00] | butabi: | well, ill end livetv then |
| [02:31:00] | butabi: | yes its ata33, i think the mobo wont support more than that :) |
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| [02:32:00] | juski: | best advice would be to turn down the rez or the bitrate of the livetv |
| [02:32:00] | butabi: | Timing buffered disk reads: 70 MB in 3.06 seconds = 22.85 MB/sec |
| [02:32:00] | hyperstream: | any ideas? |
| [02:32:00] | juski: | that should take the load off a bit |
| [02:33:00] | purplefrog: | I'm getting 26MB/sec on my mythtv box while I'm playing video. |
| [02:33:00] | Mrgoose: | do you have dma on? |
| [02:33:00] | butabi: | i really dont think it has to do something with the load ... my hd is blinking everytime the tv pic hangs ... thats a clear sign :) |
| [02:33:00] | juski: | hyperstream... su – mythtv |
| [02:33:00] | juski: | not so much the load, butabi – it's more the data throughput |
| [02:33:00] | purplefrog: | I get 43M/sec if I am not watching TV. I have dma on. butabi has dma. |
| [02:34:00] | juski: | I'm commercial flagging & I got 33M/sec |
| [02:34:00] | juski: | and (ahem) recording |
| [02:34:00] | butabi: | hehe |
| [02:34:00] | juski: | so the recorded show is fecked. oops |
| [02:34:00] | fronkonstin: | ok, next question, maybe someone knows this one: is there any way to make avidemux understand mythtv's cutlists? |
| [02:34:00] | purplefrog: | I wonder if there are kernel options that might be slowing butabi's machine down. |
| [02:35:00] | butabi: | hmm, im using the knoppmyth distribution |
| [02:35:00] | juski: | that explains a lot |
| [02:35:00] | butabi: | im going to do a mythtv-setup and looking through the general settings again, maybe i overlooked something |
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| [02:37:00] | hyperstream: | juski, i have tryed |
| [02:37:00] | juski: | I tried knoppmyth once. It crashed my backend |
| [02:37:00] | hyperstream: | i cannot run the command mythtv-setup on that user account |
| [02:37:00] | juski: | try it as the mythtv user... |
| [02:38:00] | hyperstream: | yes |
| [02:38:00] | hyperstream: | i su mythtv |
| [02:38:00] | juski: | on the normal Gentoo install I've got I can run mythtv from any user |
| [02:38:00] | juski: | (go figure) |
| [02:38:00] | fronkonstin: | butabi: the hd is blinking or is it the ide light? could maybe the cdrom be causing the problem? |
| [02:38:00] | hyperstream: | ahh well my user cant |
| [02:41:00] | fronkonstin: | maybe you can try and run 'vmstat 1' on an xterm while this all is going on; everytime your picture freezes you should see a spike of something: bo, bi, in, cs, sy, us, who knows |
| [02:42:00] | purplefrog: | His picture stutters once a second :) |
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| [02:42:00] | fronkonstin: | that would be a problem for vmstat 1 :) |
| [02:43:00] | Krazylegz: | Hmm. I FTPed my recordings and videos to another system so that I make a smaller system image. Now that I've FTPed them back, Myth shows "Sorry, No Recordings Available". |
| [02:43:00] | Krazylegz: | Looking through the database, I don't see where it picks the filenames. |
| [02:43:00] | Krazylegz: | Maybe Myth needs a restart. |
| [02:44:00] | purplefrog: | The filename is based on the start and end date of the recordings. |
| [02:44:00] | purplefrog: | and channelid |
| [02:44:00] | Krazylegz: | Okay. |
| [02:44:00] | Krazylegz: | I'll reboot and see if they take. |
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| [02:44:00] | purplefrog: | 1099_20050217013000_20050217020000 |
| [02:44:00] | purplefrog: | is channelid 1099 , 2005-02–17 01:30:00 , 2005-02–17 02:00:00 |
| [02:45:00] | purplefrog: | check your logs |
| [02:45:00] | purplefrog: | don't reboot, just restart mythbackend. |
| [02:45:00] | butabi: | fronkonstin: well, its the ide light, ill check it, gimme a sec |
| [02:45:00] | Krazylegz: | Meh, easier to restart, to no keyboard. :-) |
| [02:45:00] | Krazylegz: | Thanks for the breakdown, though. |
| [02:45:00] | Krazylegz: | Besides, the filenames are all the same. |
| [02:46:00] | butabi: | fronkonstin: its the hd :( |
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| [02:48:00] | butabi: | is livetv recording a buffer? |
| [02:48:00] | purplefrog: | yes |
| [02:49:00] | butabi: | how can i edit the size/properties of that, in the mythtv-setup? |
| [02:49:00] | purplefrog: | I think you edit it in the mythfrontend gui. |
| [02:49:00] | purplefrog: | In the setup menu. |
| [02:49:00] | butabi: | ive been there over and over again, havent found anything |
| [02:49:00] | butabi: | ill try the other setup |
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| [02:50:00] | abarbaccia: | hey all – i'm having a LOT of trouble getting mythbackend started at boot...anybody using ubuntu and NOT having this problem? |
| [02:51:00] | juski: | abarbaccia – probably something not starting up in time when mythbackend kicks in |
| [02:51:00] | purplefrog: | have you checked the logs? |
| [02:51:00] | abarbaccia: | purplefrog, about to – one seconds |
| [02:51:00] | fronkonstin: | I'm sure you've been asked this over and over, but... is dma turned on? no-dma doesn't mean that the drive is slow, it means the rest of the system becomes pretty unresponsive when there is disk activity... |
| [02:52:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah, my problem appears to be corruption of user permissions somewhere. I can only login to GDM with the root user. |
| [02:52:00] | Krazylegz: | Everything works fine for root, though. |
| [02:53:00] | fronkonstin: | just for fun, can you run vmstat 1 for a few seconds on an xterm while you watch tv, and show what you got? |
| [02:53:00] | abarbaccia: | well, when i run it once i'm logged in, i have no problems – even when i run it from the script |
| [02:53:00] | abarbaccia: | but during boot it never stays loaded, i'm going to change the runorder to 99 |
| [02:55:00] | abarbaccia: | ehh – think i found the error "access denied for user mythtv@localhost"...that whole deal – asking me to configure |
| [02:55:00] | butabi: | ok guys, looking at the mythtv console, i found something: "2005-08–17 02:54:59.540 prebuffering pause" <<< this is happening every 1 sec and causes the stutter |
| [02:56:00] | purplefrog: | abarbaccia, that might be a mysql permissions issue. |
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| [02:56:00] | fronkonstin: | afaik that's nothing more than another symptom for the same disease, but not the cause... |
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| [02:57:00] | butabi: | fronkonstin: talking to me? :) |
| [02:58:00] | abarbaccia: | purplefrog, yes, but why would it start under another user? |
| [02:58:00] | fronkonstin: | butabi: yup... |
| [02:59:00] | butabi: | why is it prebuffering every damn seconds? |
| [03:00:00] | butabi: | its not even good for the hd this stop and go ... |
| [03:00:00] | fronkonstin: | this is my interpretation (but I don't know shit): every second, for a root cause we're going after, mythtv loses it; realizing that, it restarts its buffers to recover sanity |
| [03:00:00] | fronkonstin: | the hd doesn't stop and go |
| [03:01:00] | hadeees: | anyone see on digg Dvorak said good things about MythTV but he also said the systm howto was good |
| [03:01:00] | purplefrog: | abarbaccia: because mythtv permissions are based on the user? my /etc/mythtv/mysql.xt contains, among other things "DBUserName=mythtv" , what about yours? |
| [03:01:00] | butabi: | fronkonstin: according to my led it does, however, could the problem be that i have no epg data in my db? |
| [03:01:00] | fronkonstin: | but it's true that the kernel buffer flush happens periodically |
| [03:02:00] | fronkonstin: | you can't really write continuously, you always need some kind of "quantum" |
| [03:03:00] | fronkonstin: | it shouldn't be a problem in a normal system, really |
| [03:03:00] | abarbaccia: | right – i have the same mysql.txt in my 3 users (desktop, root, and mythtv) |
| [03:03:00] | ** NightBird yawns ** | |
| [03:03:00] | fronkonstin: | can you try the vmstat thing? maybe it will show something off... |
| [03:04:00] | butabi: | okay, need some secs |
| [03:05:00] | purplefrog: | abarbaccia: desperation move: alter the start-up script to have an "strace -f -o /tmp/huge mythbackend", s oyou can see what files it accesses and what sockets it opens. |
| [03:05:00] | purplefrog: | Don't try that with a mythbackend that will succeed, you'll be buried in log output. |
| [03:06:00] | abarbaccia: | purplefrog, i think that's going too far off the deepend |
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| [03:07:00] | butabi: | fronkonstin: maybe it has something to do with my audio card, which is not detected ... but i dont think thats the problem |
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| [03:09:00] | abarbaccia: | anybody know if i can get mythbackend to start from a .xsession ? |
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| [03:09:00] | purplefrog: | abarbaccia: sounds like a bad idea. |
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| [03:09:00] | abarbaccia: | i know – i need it to boot at startup |
| [03:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | Why wouldn't you make it start from an initscript? |
| [03:09:00] | abarbaccia: | GreyFoxx, i'm trying |
| [03:10:00] | abarbaccia: | it doesnt seem to want to work though |
| [03:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | Then you are doing something incorrectly :) |
| [03:11:00] | hyperstream: | anyone here installed mythtv on debian |
| [03:11:00] | hyperstream: | ? |
| [03:11:00] | abarbaccia: | GreyFoxx, i owe you big time – i would've never figured it out without you |
| [03:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | hahaha |
| [03:12:00] | ** NightBird yawns ** | |
| [03:12:00] | NightBird: | hyperstream, I've tried to install it on ubuntu which is based off of debian |
| [03:13:00] | hyperstream: | did you have any issues with the user mythv not being able to run mythtv-setup |
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| [03:14:00] | NightBird: | hyperstream, I had several issues... most from my lack of linux experience probably |
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| [03:14:00] | media: | anyone seen mythmusic where it says all songs are 0 length, and when you fastforward it restarts the song? I deleted all entries from the musicmetadata table and rescanned and the same thing happened again |
| [03:14:00] | hyperstream: | well the apt-get installed it all and mad the user |
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| [03:15:00] | hyperstream: | added* |
| [03:15:00] | abarbaccia: | heres an idea- how do i get something to execute as a different user in an init script? |
| [03:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | abara: su |
| [03:15:00] | riddlebox: | if I move shows out of the dir that I recorded them in, how can I delete them from the database then? |
| [03:15:00] | hyperstream: | i notced the user mythtv is using sh |
| [03:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | for example su – username -c "command here" |
| [03:16:00] | purplefrog: | riddlebox, you can go into the mythfrontend and delete the programs. |
| [03:16:00] | abarbaccia: | GreyFoxx, do i need hte – after the su |
| [03:16:00] | purplefrog: | It should work, even if the file is missing. |
| [03:16:00] | purplefrog: | abarbaccia: the – cleans your environment. It's a good idea whenever you do su. |
| [03:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | need? No, but it forces it to load the users settings/login profile |
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| [03:19:00] | riddlebox: | purplefrog: I have tried to delete them from the web based app but it wont delete, I have moved them from one directory to another...will it not delete them if it doesnt see a show there? |
| [03:19:00] | purplefrog: | Good question, riddlebox. I wonder what is in your logs? Is there an error message from your deletion attempt? |
| [03:19:00] | media: | Could someone atleast check their mythmusic plugin and does it give you the track length, and allow you to fast forward (is it me, or myth?) |
| [03:20:00] | hyperstream: | should mythtv-setup be able to be ran by the user account mythtv |
| [03:20:00] | abarbaccia: | what log will show me what's not working right during startup? |
| [03:21:00] | purplefrog: | abarbaccia: I look at /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log |
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| [03:22:00] | Krazylegz: | Yep. My problem was GDM....because of permissions....but really because there wasn't enough hard drive space. |
| [03:22:00] | riddlebox: | purplefrog:it says file not found |
| [03:22:00] | purplefrog: | Hmm, how annoying. |
| [03:23:00] | purplefrog: | You could "echo blah > filename" to make the "file not found" go away :) |
| [03:23:00] | riddlebox: | is there a way to update the database so if it doesnt see the file it wont show that it is there |
| [03:23:00] | dhofstra: | try checking /var/log/mythbackend.log |
| [03:24:00] | purplefrog: | riddlebox: you could delete the row from one of the tables, let me figure out what table it is. |
| [03:24:00] | wasabi: | My Integrated player won't work. |
| [03:24:00] | wasabi: | It just, doesn't do anything. |
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| [03:24:00] | abarbaccia: | wasabi, what distro + player? |
| [03:24:00] | purplefrog: | the "recorded" table has a row for every recorded show. |
| [03:25:00] | wasabi: | ubuntu. |
| [03:25:00] | wasabi: | "Internal" |
| [03:25:00] | wasabi: | Are there special libs neccassary that I may be missing? |
| [03:25:00] | riddlebox: | purplefrog:will I have to restart mythbackend then? |
| [03:25:00] | purplefrog: | you shouldn't ahve to restart. |
| [03:26:00] | abarbaccia: | wasabi, i believe you need to install mplayer for it to work |
| [03:26:00] | wasabi: | mplayer is installed. |
| [03:26:00] | abarbaccia: | does it work when u play other things |
| [03:26:00] | wasabi: | mplayer works fine as the player |
| [03:26:00] | abarbaccia: | hurm |
| [03:26:00] | abarbaccia: | odd |
| [03:26:00] | wasabi: | it's just "Internal" that doesn't work. |
| [03:26:00] | riddlebox: | I wonder if i can do it with phpmyadmin |
| [03:27:00] | purplefrog: | I have never used that. |
| [03:28:00] | hyperstream: | should mythtv-setup be able to be ran by the user account mythtv |
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| [03:29:00] | kenvandine: | hello all |
| [03:30:00] | abarbaccia: | hyperstream, yes |
| [03:30:00] | abarbaccia: | it needs to be |
| [03:31:00] | purplefrog: | hyperstream: the documentation at http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html shows mythtv-setup being run at a '$' prompt instead of a '#' prompt, so that means non-root. |
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| [03:34:00] | kenvandine: | i am having a problem that is killing me |
| [03:34:00] | kenvandine: | mythtv 0.16, this box hasn't been touched in like a year... and has worked perfectly |
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| [03:35:00] | kenvandine: | now, the backend dies every 20 minutes or so |
| [03:35:00] | kenvandine: | http://rafb.net/paste/results/iJ6Azz24.html |
| [03:35:00] | kenvandine: | this is the error in the mythbackend.log |
| [03:35:00] | kenvandine: | anyone have any ideas? |
| [03:35:00] | purplefrog: | Whoa, are you dropping buffers? What is in your dmesg or syslog? |
| [03:35:00] | kenvandine: | my wife will hang me if i don't fix it soon |
| [03:36:00] | hyperstream: | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server | Xlib: No protocol specified | mythtv-setup: cannot connect to X server :0.0 |
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| [03:37:00] | kenvandine: | http://rafb.net/paste/results/ai4mLm67.html |
| [03:37:00] | kenvandine: | i see alot of that in my messages |
| [03:37:00] | purplefrog: | hyperstream: you need to start an X server, or at least a vncserver (pretend X server you can attach to with vncviewer) |
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| [03:39:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [03:39:00] | kenvandine: | purplefrog: any ideas? |
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| [03:39:00] | hyperstream: | im at the actual machine in x |
| [03:39:00] | purplefrog: | I'm searching through my logs for an example of what happens when I drop buffers. |
| [03:39:00] | hyperstream: | im not accessing this thru ssh or anything |
| [03:39:00] | kenvandine: | ok |
| [03:39:00] | kenvandine: | thx |
| [03:40:00] | purplefrog: | hyperstream, maybe you need to xauth +localhost as the user running the X server. |
| [03:40:00] | purplefrog: | not xauth |
| [03:40:00] | purplefrog: | xhost +localhost |
| [03:40:00] | kenvandine: | i am really puzzled with this problem... since it has worked flawlessly for so long |
| [03:40:00] | purplefrog: | Jan 11 00:21:29 alexandria kernel: ivtv: ENC IRQ OVERFLOW: #34 Stealing a Buffer, 256 currently allocated |
| [03:41:00] | hyperstream: | when i type xhost +localhost |
| [03:41:00] | hyperstream: | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| [03:41:00] | hyperstream: | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| [03:41:00] | purplefrog: | You have to do that as the user who owns the x server. |
| [03:41:00] | hyperstream: | i get that. i think its something to do with the user account of mythtv in debian |
| [03:41:00] | purplefrog: | Only he has the cookies needed to adjust the X server. |
| [03:41:00] | hyperstream: | o |
| [03:42:00] | purplefrog: | Once you succeed in xhost +localhost then any user on the local machine can access the X server. |
| [03:42:00] | hyperstream: | localhost being added to access control list |
| [03:42:00] | hyperstream: | but as the user mythtv |
| [03:42:00] | hyperstream: | same error |
| [03:42:00] | purplefrog: | Hmm, export DISPLAY=localhost:0 ? |
| [03:42:00] | hyperstream: | hyper:/usr/share/mythtv/sql$ mythtv-setup |
| [03:43:00] | hyperstream: | new error: mythtv-setup: cannot connect to X server localhost:0 |
| [03:43:00] | butabi: | "No XvMC found" << how do i get it? :) |
| [03:44:00] | xris: | now I have to go through and figure out which addresses I've given out to people/companies over the years. |
| [03:45:00] | hyperstream: | purplefrog, : any ideas? |
| [03:45:00] | purplefrog: | Gar, it's probably something simple. |
| [03:46:00] | hyperstream: | if i run it as any other user it works fine |
| [03:46:00] | Uberbot: | Hi all. |
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| [03:47:00] | Uberbot: | Can anyone help me get my CD player working under Myth? |
| [03:47:00] | purplefrog: | So, what is the $DISPLAY of your shells that CAN start new X clients (like xterms) ? |
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| [03:48:00] | hyperstream: | purplefrog, how do i set xhost back to its default |
| [03:48:00] | purplefrog: | xhost -localhost |
| [03:48:00] | hyperstream: | after settings that i cant run mythtv-setup anymore on any account |
| [03:49:00] | dmz: | is there a mythradio or any easy interface into the radio tuner on my pvr350? |
| [03:50:00] | hyperstream: | ? |
| [03:52:00] | hyperstream: | purplefrog, ? |
| [03:52:00] | purplefrog: | xhost -localhost |
| [03:52:00] | hyperstream: | thats not working ither |
| [03:52:00] | purplefrog: | nuts. |
| [03:52:00] | hyperstream: | omg you wrecked it :( |
| [03:52:00] | hyperstream: | thanks tho |
| [03:53:00] | purplefrog: | Well, when all else fails, restart X windows. |
| [03:53:00] | hyperstream: | good idea |
| [03:53:00] | purplefrog: | There's something freaky going on. Are any of your disks full? |
| [03:53:00] | hyperstream: | wonder if it'll work tho :/ |
| [03:53:00] | hyperstream: | nope not at all |
| [03:53:00] | ** GreyFoxx fires off a compile and starts counting the seconds until it breaks ** | |
| [03:55:00] | Krazylegz: | GreyFoxx: You use Slack? |
| [03:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | Krazylegz: Yes I do |
| [03:56:00] | Krazylegz: | I can't get MythStreamTV working and you said it was easy, so I'm trying to figure it out. Thanks. |
| [03:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | I did nothing more or less than what is shown in the readme/install doc in the tarball |
| [03:57:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, I did that. Seem to be having problems with ffmpeg. |
| [03:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | you are going to have to be a little more specific than that :) |
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| [03:58:00] | Krazylegz: | I don't need your help! |
| [03:58:00] | Krazylegz: | Just kidding. I am going to try to figure it out on my own first, though. |
| [03:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cool. Always the best thing to do :) |
| [03:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | You learn more than way :) |
| [03:58:00] | hyperstream: | purplefrog, its was export DISPLAY=:0.0 |
| [03:58:00] | hyperstream: | :) |
| [03:58:00] | Krazylegz: | That's what I'm hoping. Besides, I don't know anything more than what I just told you anyway. |
| [03:59:00] | purplefrog: | So, :0.0 works, but localhost:0 does not? bugger. |
| [03:59:00] | purplefrog: | stupid X not listening on the TCP ports. |
| [03:59:00] | Krazylegz: | I thought you always had to use the 0.0. |
| [04:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | weird. .0 is implied if you don't specify |
| [04:00:00] | purplefrog: | :0.0 means DISPLAY 0, screen 0. A multi-screen machine could have DISPLAY=:0.1. My laptop right now has that. :0.0 is the flat panel. :0.1 is the svideo out. |
| [04:00:00] | purplefrog: | GreyFoxx: is right. |
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| [04:02:00] | purplefrog: | holy monkeybutts! I did an emerge -upvD world and it's offering to rebuild like 50 packages :( |
| [04:02:00] | purplefrog: | Tat's what I get for ignoring it for months. |
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| [04:05:00] | hyperstream: | Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
| [04:05:00] | purplefrog: | hyperstream, how familiar are you with x authorization? |
| [04:05:00] | hyperstream: | not |
| [04:07:00] | purplefrog: | Hmm, can you see the output of the X server? Perhaps Ctrl-Alt-F1 ? |
| [04:10:00] | abarbaccia: | anybody know why i can watch a dvd, but not transcode one? mtd does not recognize the disk...its running too |
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| [04:10:00] | swim: | I desperatley need some help, after a successful knoppmyth install, boot just brings me to a blinking cursor on a black screen and goes no further |
| [04:12:00] | butabi: | does the gf3 support xvmc? |
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| [04:14:00] | abarbaccia: | any ideas anybody? |
| [04:14:00] | abarbaccia: | it's really bugging me right now |
| [04:15:00] | NightBird: | I've got ideas.... they won't help you though, I'm sure.. |
| [04:15:00] | purplefrog: | DVDs easily confuse me. I can usually watch one with ogle. Before I run ogle, I can't access any of the UDF files. After I use ogle, I can read all the files. I wish I had a command-line tool that does the ogle magic. |
| [04:15:00] | NightBird: | since I don't even know what the problem is |
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| [04:30:00] | hyperstream: | heh |
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| [04:30:00] | hyperstream: | had to reboot |
| [04:30:00] | hyperstream: | didnt no how to get out of ctrl + alt + 1 and back into x |
| [04:30:00] | hyperstream: | :/ |
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| [04:31:00] | Krazylegz: | alt-F7 |
| [04:31:00] | hyperstream: | ahh |
| [04:31:00] | hyperstream: | hehe |
| [04:32:00] | hyperstream: | yeah something is up with the useraccount of mythtv. whats its default password ill just adduser after dseleteing it |
| [04:32:00] | Krazylegz: | Not sure I'd do that. |
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| [04:37:00] | hyperstream: | ok im about to unstall mythtv / frontend / backend / mysql server |
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| [04:42:00] | hyperstream: | ??? |
| [04:42:00] | hyperstream: | hmm i guess tvtime is working fine enuff |
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| [04:56:00] | Cardoe: | grr |
| [04:56:00] | Cardoe: | 2005-08–16 22:46:46.912 ProgramInfo::FromStringList, not enough items in list. |
| [04:56:00] | Cardoe: | 2005-08–16 22:46:46.912 ProgramList::FromScheduler(): Length mismatch |
| [04:56:00] | Cardoe: | using the latest SVN |
| [04:57:00] | Chutt: | does it repro? |
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| [05:00:00] | ** GreyFoxx jumps another compiling hurdle trying to see if he can get mythfrontend running on OpenBSD ** | |
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| [05:02:00] | Krazylegz: | I gave up on MythStreamTV. I'll try again when I setup Myth on Gentoo. |
| [05:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [05:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's interesting watching people play musical chairs will their distros in an effort to get myth running the way they want :) |
| [05:04:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, there's some method to my madness. I have always wanted to set it up on KnoppMyth, get it working, and then set it up on Gentoo. |
| [05:04:00] | Krazylegz: | I prefer Gentoo. Except for MythStreamTV, I have everything I want working on KnoppMyth. |
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| [05:05:00] | ** GreyFoxx prefers to set it up on one distro and leave it there heh ** | |
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| [05:05:00] | toppin1: | howdy |
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| [05:07:00] | Krazylegz: | I considered just leaving it on KnoppMyth for a while, since I have a dedicated Mythbox now. |
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| [05:07:00] | Krazylegz: | Before, I was going to have to use the same system for Myth and application development, etc. |
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| [06:41:00] | ** xris bitch slaps all of the applicants who can't follow the simple instructions of sending a "text only" resume. ** | |
| [06:44:00] | Cardoe: | xris: what are you taking applicants for? |
| [06:44:00] | xris: | http://www.siliconmechanics.com/i3290/careers/php-developer.php |
| [06:45:00] | xris: | "text only" is how I weed out the people who can't follow instructions. |
| [06:45:00] | Cardoe: | heh |
| [06:47:00] | ** Cardoe pounds on the keyboard randomly in OO.o and sends it to xris. ** | |
| [06:48:00] | Cardoe: | It's plain text |
| [06:48:00] | xris: | thanks.. really. |
| [06:48:00] | Cardoe: | no fun formating |
| [06:48:00] | Cardoe: | ;) |
| [06:48:00] | Cardoe: | I'm just kidding. |
| [06:48:00] | xris: | hey, you didn't read, either. says *formatted* plain text. ;) |
| [06:48:00] | Cardoe: | lol |
| [06:48:00] | Cardoe: | true |
| [06:49:00] | Cardoe: | I need to start working on a resume and job hunting this semester. |
| [06:49:00] | Cardoe: | bleh... not looking forward to it. |
| [06:49:00] | keith: | anyone here ever get mythgame to work? |
| [06:49:00] | Cardoe: | But I guess we have to graduate at some point. |
| [06:49:00] | xris: | yup |
| [06:49:00] | Cardoe: | xris: did you get enough applications that you can just delete the not properly formated ones? |
| [06:50:00] | xris: | 2 so far I'll interview |
| [06:50:00] | xris: | job's only been up for a day |
| [06:50:00] | Cardoe: | not bad |
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| [06:51:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: Your application process is too hard. :-) |
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| [06:51:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: apparently |
| [06:51:00] | xris: | maybe I just expect too much |
| [06:52:00] | xris: | I mean, what kind of linux programmer needs to know the difference between Word and plain-text? |
| [06:52:00] | Krazylegz: | There's a finite amount of intelligence in the world, or something like that. |
| [06:52:00] | Krazylegz: | Do you at least gets some OOo resumes? |
| [06:52:00] | xris: | no |
| [06:52:00] | xris: | well, who knows with .doc |
| [06:53:00] | Krazylegz: | I suppose. |
| [06:53:00] | xris: | I ask for plain text or html |
| [06:53:00] | xris: | I get those and .doc |
| [06:53:00] | Krazylegz: | Would you take "Save as webpage"? :-) |
| [06:53:00] | xris: | got one of those |
| [06:53:00] | xris: | but see, he at least had the sense to DO that. |
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| [06:53:00] | Krazylegz: | True. |
| [06:54:00] | xris: | hmm, need to add SQLite to my resume |
| [06:55:00] | Mrgoose: | xris: whats the pay? |
| [06:55:00] | xris: | Mrgoose: DOE |
| [06:55:00] | Mrgoose: | ? |
| [06:55:00] | xris: | $15–25 |
| [06:55:00] | xris: | (depends on experience) |
| [06:55:00] | Mrgoose: | hmm |
| [06:55:00] | Mrgoose: | can i work from NC? |
| [06:55:00] | xris: | no |
| [06:56:00] | Krazylegz: | Can I work from PA? |
| [06:56:00] | Krazylegz: | Hehe. |
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| [06:58:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: no, you'd have to be like kormoc and move out here. |
| [06:58:00] | xris: | but he was moving out, anyway. |
| [06:59:00] | Krazylegz: | Where did he move from? |
| [06:59:00] | xris: | lancaster |
| [06:59:00] | xris: | I think that's right. |
| [06:59:00] | xris: | middle-o'-amish-country |
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| [07:00:00] | Krazylegz: | Whoa. Next door to me? |
| [07:00:00] | Krazylegz: | Lancaster, PA? |
| [07:00:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [07:00:00] | xris: | like I implied.. "move out here from PA" |
| [07:00:00] | Krazylegz: | Haha, that's great. |
| [07:00:00] | xris: | like kormoc |
| [07:00:00] | Krazylegz: | I thought you were just talking about moving from somewhere else. |
| [07:01:00] | xris: | nope. was being quite literal. :) |
| [07:04:00] | ** xris kicks his webserver and stupid messed up rpm dependencies ** | |
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| [07:29:00] | dmz: | should mtd be started automaticially or do I need to create a startup script for it? |
| [07:32:00] | Cardoe: | gimme a $1 and I'll add one for the ebuild |
| [07:33:00] | Chutt: | it's started by mythdvd if it's not running. |
| [07:35:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: and here I was trying to give the Gentoo users a hardtime |
| [07:35:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: and you took the wind out of the sails. |
| [07:35:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [07:35:00] | butabi: | i hate my box |
| [07:35:00] | ** Cardoe needs a nice case for the living room. ** | |
| [07:36:00] | Cardoe: | I need to start checking them out. |
| [07:36:00] | Chutt: | i like my aria |
| [07:36:00] | Cardoe: | PCAlchemy a good site for them or are they over priced? |
| [07:36:00] | Cardoe: | I have a slightly smaller then micro-ATX PPC board for it |
| [07:36:00] | Chutt: | oh, hey, if you're going to be working on that db patch |
| [07:36:00] | Cardoe: | inheritence |
| [07:37:00] | Cardoe: | is the key to C++ |
| [07:37:00] | Cardoe: | but yeah |
| [07:37:00] | Chutt: | inheritance makes g++ compile slower =) |
| [07:37:00] | Cardoe: | I tried to work from what he had |
| [07:37:00] | Cardoe: | well its retarded to have to pass in the type everytime |
| [07:37:00] | Cardoe: | at the very least |
| [07:37:00] | Cardoe: | when you initialize it |
| [07:37:00] | Chutt: | i just want to ask that instead of changing the escaping of queries " -> ', to modify it to use prepare/bindvalue |
| [07:38:00] | Cardoe: | but best is that there's a MySQL specific and PostGres specific class |
| [07:38:00] | Chutt: | right, that would be best |
| [07:38:00] | Cardoe: | and they conform to the same "interface" |
| [07:38:00] | Chutt: | and no lameass db specific code in the app |
| [07:38:00] | Cardoe: | yeah I can use prepare/bindvalue |
| [07:38:00] | Cardoe: | what lameass db specific stuff is there? |
| [07:38:00] | Cardoe: | I scrapped the whole thing. |
| [07:39:00] | Cardoe: | gonna start from a nice clean vim screen |
| [07:39:00] | Chutt: | + "subtitle, description, " |
| [07:39:00] | Chutt: | + "CASE WHEN year = ' ' THEN 0 ELSE " + QString( |
| [07:39:00] | Chutt: | +(gContext->GetDatabaseParams().dbType == DBTYPE_MYSQL) ? "year " : "cast(year as int) ") |
| [07:39:00] | Chutt: | + + "END, stars, repeat, stereo, subtitled, hdtv, closecaptioned, " |
| [07:39:00] | Chutt: | shit like that |
| [07:39:00] | ** xris gently thwacks Chutt with a trout for flooding. ** | |
| [07:39:00] | Chutt: | that's 4 lines :p |
| [07:39:00] | xris: | hey, I said "gently" ;) |
| [07:39:00] | Cardoe: | oh |
| [07:39:00] | xris: | (and it was more than 4 in my tiny window).. heh |
| [07:40:00] | Krazylegz: | MythIRC. |
| [07:40:00] | Krazylegz: | Tell LxM to work on THAT. |
| [07:40:00] | Cardoe: | Yeah. I didn't even read that. |
| [07:40:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: And you didn't close out the bug telling him how much of an idiot he was? |
| [07:40:00] | Cardoe: | wow. |
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| [07:43:00] | Chutt: | thoughts on #146? |
| [07:44:00] | Cardoe: | uh |
| [07:44:00] | ** Cardoe doesn't have Xorg installed currently. ** | |
| [07:44:00] | Cardoe: | and I accidently just closed Firefox |
| [07:44:00] | Cardoe: | :-D |
| [07:44:00] | Chutt: | hah |
| [07:44:00] | Chutt: | well, i have to use firefox instead of konq at the moment for trac |
| [07:44:00] | Cardoe: | working on fd.o's modular X |
| [07:45:00] | Chutt: | kde's busted in breezy |
| [07:45:00] | Chutt: | at least on amd64 |
| [07:45:00] | Cardoe: | amd64 support is kind of weird sometimes. |
| [07:45:00] | Cardoe: | it's great. but randomly. something just acts up. |
| [07:45:00] | Chutt: | naw, this isn't weirdness |
| [07:45:00] | Chutt: | they've got 3.4.2 versions of the libs |
| [07:46:00] | Chutt: | but everything else is 3.4.1 |
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| [07:46:00] | Cardoe: | oh |
| [07:46:00] | Chutt: | cookies/basic_auth are broken in konq, so i can't log in to trac |
| [07:46:00] | Cardoe: | oh |
| [07:49:00] | Cardoe: | yeah I'm a bit dangerous right now |
| [07:49:00] | Cardoe: | Modular X, GTK+ 2.8 and CVS Gnome bits. |
| [07:50:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [07:50:00] | Cardoe: | can't expect others to test your code for ya |
| [07:50:00] | Chutt: | breezy's had modular x for a month or so now |
| [07:50:00] | Cardoe: | sometimes you have to bite the bullet yourself. |
| [07:50:00] | Chutt: | the transition wasn't terribly fun |
| [07:51:00] | Cardoe: | Yeah. It's not fun |
| [07:51:00] | Cardoe: | mesa just decided to fail on me |
| [07:51:00] | Cardoe: | which is the hang up right now |
| [07:51:00] | Chutt: | i still don't have 'glxinfo' =) |
| [07:51:00] | Cardoe: | hah. Issue over here as well. |
| [07:51:00] | Cardoe: | though I'm producing an ebuild to build it out of mesa. |
| [07:52:00] | Cardoe: | We're working on getting Gentoo setup on modular X and fixing up all the depends on it. |
| [07:52:00] | Cardoe: | This is all out of tree. |
| [07:52:00] | Cardoe: | it's the reason my MythTV box is so bogged down |
| [07:53:00] | Chutt: | ah |
| [07:53:00] | Cardoe: | Cause me and the other guys are using that box as our server |
| [07:53:00] | Cardoe: | so it was building X in a chroot. That's why MythTV was taking forever to recompile. |
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| [07:59:00] | Krazylegz: | "Boss" told me 1h45m ago that I needed to do something by morning. I just realized that he said that, and that I don't know what he's talking about. |
| [08:00:00] | mchou: | haha! |
| [08:00:00] | mchou: | that's straight outta that commercial...... |
| [08:01:00] | mchou: | (forgrt which one) |
| [08:01:00] | mchou: | forget* |
| [08:01:00] | Cardoe: | lol |
| [08:01:00] | ** Cardoe pats mchou on the back ** | |
| [08:02:00] | mchou: | so, a lil old age catching up. Just wait, it will happen to you to :) |
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| [08:03:00] | Cardoe: | heh |
| [08:03:00] | Krazylegz: | Commercial? Eh? |
| [08:03:00] | Krazylegz: | Crap, now I ever forget the commercial. |
| [08:03:00] | mchou: | happens when you FF :) |
| [08:03:00] | Krazylegz: | *even |
| [08:03:00] | Krazylegz: | FF? OH GOD!!!!! |
| [08:04:00] | Krazylegz: | What's FF? :-) |
| [08:04:00] | mchou: | lol, comm detect aint 100% |
| [08:04:00] | mchou: | it's like 95% |
| [08:04:00] | mchou: | so sue me on the 5% :) |
| [08:05:00] | mchou: | Krazylegz: tou get 100% comm detect? |
| [08:05:00] | mchou: | you* |
| [08:06:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh. I'm starting to see where this is coming from. |
| [08:06:00] | Krazylegz: | No, my best friend actually comes over and watches commercials almost exclusively, until someone takes the remote from him. |
| [08:07:00] | mchou: | haha |
| [08:07:00] | mchou: | that's great for superbowl. |
| [08:07:00] | Krazylegz: | He does it all the time. |
| [08:07:00] | mchou: | need a function like that. show only commercials :) |
| [08:07:00] | Krazylegz: | He thinks he likes them because you get to see the whole thing, no cliffhangers. |
| [08:08:00] | Krazylegz: | Haha. !mythcommflag |
| [08:08:00] | mchou: | no, it'd be ~mythcommflag :) |
| [08:09:00] | ** Krazylegz scripts up an alias for mchou ** | |
| [08:12:00] | mchou: | this is ridiculous. |
| [08:12:00] | mchou: | found another dead bird right next to my street. West Nile Virus. |
| [08:13:00] | mchou: | hope my brain dont melt. |
| [08:14:00] | Krazylegz: | I'm out of hard drive space again. Mythbackend ate it all up. What the heck did it do? |
| [08:14:00] | mchou: | recorded a bunch of crap? :) |
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| [08:15:00] | Krazylegz: | That stuff would be on a different partition, and it didn't record anything. |
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| [08:16:00] | Krazylegz: | There it goes again. As soon as I free up some space, mythbackend fills it up again. |
| [08:17:00] | mchou: | pondering another midnight run to wendys..... |
| [08:17:00] | Krazylegz: | Load jumps to 1 and it starts to fill it up again. What's it doing? |
| [08:17:00] | mchou: | myth logs? |
| [08:17:00] | Krazylegz: | Maybe, but why so large, and why when I'm not doing anything? |
| [08:17:00] | Krazylegz: | I did have to delete the logs to free some space. |
| [08:18:00] | mchou: | Burger King out to stay open late |
| [08:19:00] | mchou: | ought* |
| [08:20:00] | Krazylegz: | Taco Bell. |
| [08:20:00] | mchou: | No way. |
| [08:20:00] | mchou: | that's not even close to being "food" |
| [08:20:00] | Krazylegz: | You just made me cry. |
| [08:20:00] | mchou: | fast or otherwise. |
| [08:24:00] | xris: | mchou: you're arguing the quality of "food" between those two places? |
| [08:24:00] | xris: | I have to side with Krazylegz, though. at least tbell has vegetarian food. |
| [08:24:00] | xris: | sorry, "food" |
| [08:24:00] | mchou: | no. Just making a point. |
| [08:24:00] | mchou: | if you call GM soy "food" :) |
| [08:25:00] | mchou: | soybeans* |
| [08:25:00] | laga: | talking about food, i don't have anything for breakfast. morning :) |
| [08:25:00] | mchou: | kinda doubtful they're "veggie" for that matter..... |
| [08:26:00] | xris: | mchou: tbell doesn't serve soy, except maybe mixed in with their "meat" |
| [08:26:00] | Krazylegz: | Heh, I just thought of that PA. |
| [08:26:00] | xris: | but they DO sell meatless things... any of their fat-free-bean things has no meat/lard in it (well, in most of the country, anyway) |
| [08:26:00] | Krazylegz: | http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php?date=2004-02-27 |
| [08:27:00] | Krazylegz: | I think it tastes delicious. |
| [08:27:00] | mchou: | lol, at least you wont get mad cow from that :) |
| [08:27:00] | ** xris will stick to being a food snob married to a chef. ** | |
| [08:28:00] | mchou: | I refuse to eat beef now. |
| [08:29:00] | xris: | mchou: just a matter of the quality of the meat... I don't mind people eating meat, but at get good organic stuff.. or at the very least, kosher/halal |
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| [08:30:00] | mchou: | I doubt kosher hala is any better than generic slaughter..... |
| [08:30:00] | mchou: | halal* |
| [08:30:00] | mchou: | plus that means no pork :) |
| [08:30:00] | mchou: | so no thx :) |
| [08:31:00] | xris: | man, pork scares me a hell of a lot more than beef does. |
| [08:31:00] | mchou: | nope. |
| [08:31:00] | xris: | but you're chinese, so you've got a lot of cultural stuff to deal with there. |
| [08:31:00] | xris: | really? pork can contain things that you CANNOT kill, no matter how much you cook it. that's just nasty. |
| [08:31:00] | mchou: | Pork is a clean animal. As long as you cook it well. |
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| [08:31:00] | mchou: | xris: like what? |
| [08:32:00] | xris: | like I know anymore. |
| [08:32:00] | xris: | I stopped being a militant vegetarian a long time ago. |
| [08:32:00] | mchou: | you cant kill "mad cow." |
| [08:32:00] | mchou: | no matter how long you cook. |
| [08:32:00] | xris: | you don't see me eating that, either. heh. |
| [08:33:00] | mchou: | Pork is probably safest right now. |
| [08:33:00] | xris: | goat, actually |
| [08:33:00] | mchou: | nope. scrapie. |
| [08:33:00] | xris: | muslim friend of mine has been eating goat instead of beef for several years now. |
| [08:33:00] | mchou: | just like Mad Cow. |
| [08:33:00] | xris: | hmm |
| [08:33:00] | mchou: | probably even worse. |
| [08:33:00] | xris: | would say "fish" but you have to deal with mercury and all that crap. |
| [08:34:00] | mchou: | xris: exactly. |
| [08:34:00] | xris: | with vegetables, it's leftover RoundUp and DDT |
| [08:34:00] | mchou: | and GMO |
| [08:34:00] | xris: | (all in concentrations higher than the USDA technically allows) |
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| [08:34:00] | xris: | well, GMO is a separate issue. |
| [08:34:00] | xris: | some GMO isn't really that bad... it's when you start mixing genes of different plants and animals together. |
| [08:35:00] | xris: | I mean, traditional hybridization is technically considered GMO |
| [08:35:00] | mchou: | xris: nah, referring to Monsanto crap.... |
| [08:35:00] | mchou: | and ADM crap too. |
| [08:35:00] | xris: | that's a light word to use for them |
| [08:36:00] | xris: | I'm *currently* pissed at M for lying about the half-life of RoundUp... they claim it's 7 days or so, but it's actually like 2 years. |
| [08:36:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [08:37:00] | xris: | so I used roundup to kill a bunch of grass in my backyard to put in a garden (didn't know of else at the time that really works)..... |
| [08:37:00] | xris: | granted, it's still less roundup than you'd get in the soil from stuff you get at the grocery store, but it pisses me off. |
| [08:37:00] | xris: | it's been linked to sterility in both men and women, too... |
| [08:38:00] | mchou: | man, just dont use that crap. |
| [08:38:00] | mchou: | no call for it. |
| [08:38:00] | xris: | speaking of which, I need to order more of the better (albeing more expensive) alternative I eventually discovered. |
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| [08:38:00] | mchou: | what's that? |
| [08:38:00] | xris: | well, nothing else to do for killing off lawn. |
| [08:38:00] | xris: | http://commonsensecare.com/burnout-weed-killer.html |
| [08:38:00] | xris: | stuff works better than roundup, actually.... |
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| [08:39:00] | xris: | it's both a chemical burn as well as a systemic. |
| [08:39:00] | xris: | roundup hurts blackberries, but doesn't even phase morning glory plants or horsetail.. this stuff kills all of them. |
| [08:40:00] | mchou: | hmm....might have to check that out.... |
| [08:40:00] | xris: | and on less-tolerant weeds like dandelions, it kills them in like 2 hours on a warm/dry day |
| [08:40:00] | Krazylegz: | Man, bedtime. Brain isn't working anymore. |
| [08:40:00] | mchou: | bvut I just take care of stuff old fasioned way. |
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| [08:40:00] | mchou: | fashioned. |
| [08:40:00] | mchou: | dig it out. |
| [08:40:00] | mchou: | nice. |
| [08:41:00] | xris: | I don't have that luxury for some stuff. a lot of this crap is growing through my fence |
| [08:41:00] | xris: | I dig out what I can, but use the strong stuff against the nasty weeds. |
| [08:41:00] | xris: | morning glory is the worst. it'll grow back from like 2" of root. |
| [08:42:00] | mchou: | yeah, no doubt. |
| [08:43:00] | xris: | I get a lot of stuff from gardensalive, too. |
| [08:46:00] | xris: | hmm... using garlic juice spray to repel mosquitoes from your yard.... |
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| [08:47:00] | Krazylegz: | Who am I kidding. I have too much to do to be sleeping. |
| [08:47:00] | mchou: | well, that would be handy for keeping west nile away. |
| [08:47:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [08:47:00] | xris: | and making my backyard bearable after dark. |
| [08:47:00] | xris: | wonder if I can make my own.. $20 seems a lot for a sprayer. |
| [08:48:00] | mchou: | you'd need a buttload of garlic :) |
| [08:49:00] | xris: | actually, nope... 2 cloves |
| [08:49:00] | xris: | er, heads |
| [08:49:00] | xris: | same site has a recipe for making your own |
| [08:50:00] | xris: | guess I need to buy one of those hose-connector things for spraying fertilizer |
| [08:50:00] | mchou: | those thing are handy. |
| [08:51:00] | xris: | hmm.. Do not use on insect pollinated vegetable plants! |
| [08:51:00] | mchou: | things* |
| [08:51:00] | xris: | that's pretty much everything except for my lawn and a couple of trees |
| [08:51:00] | mchou: | what, garlic? |
| [08:51:00] | xris: | the garlic+pepper mixture |
| [08:51:00] | Krazylegz: | Doesn't that keep squirrels away too? |
| [08:51:00] | xris: | man, THAT would be nice. |
| [08:52:00] | XAD|onoff: | so you are dicussing the MythFood plugin?? or is it MythGarden?? ;-) ... |
| [08:52:00] | xris: | mythgarden now. :) |
| [08:52:00] | xris: | hmm, maybe I should rename my cooktools stuff to mythfood |
| [08:53:00] | Krazylegz: | MythRecipe? |
| [08:53:00] | XAD|onoff: | or... MythGormue.... MuthRecipe (or very similar) already exist... |
| [08:53:00] | xris: | well, mythrecipe on steroids... in php |
| [08:54:00] | XAD|onoff: | sorry MythGourme |
| [08:54:00] | xris: | you mean gourmet? |
| [08:54:00] | mchou: | xris: haha!! http://www.gameco.com.au/Flame Weeding.htm |
| [08:55:00] | XAD|onoff: | so xris, how many docs did you get?? |
| [08:55:00] | mchou: | there is a space in the url. |
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| [08:55:00] | xris: | mchou: yeah, I got it |
| [08:55:00] | xris: | XAD|onoff: 2 so far.. out of 6–7 |
| [08:56:00] | xris: | my mom has a flame weeder thing. says it works pretty well. |
| [08:56:00] | xris: | but doesn't hurt anything with good roots |
| [08:57:00] | Krazylegz: | Sounds like it would be fun to use. |
| [08:58:00] | mchou: | Krazylegz: exactly! |
| [08:58:00] | mchou: | torch the back yard!!! |
| [08:58:00] | xris: | it's kind of like a plumbing torch on a 3' stick |
| [08:58:00] | xris: | and you have to lug around a big propane tank |
| [09:03:00] | mchou: | oh, guys, "Murderball" is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED |
| [09:03:00] | mchou: | saw it on Sunday. |
| [09:04:00] | mchou: | that was a movie that deserved $10.... |
| [09:04:00] | Krazylegz: | Whoa, $10. |
| [09:05:00] | mchou: | $9.50 is price of regular ticket here. |
| [09:05:00] | Krazylegz: | Yikes. I guess it's like $8.50 here now, though. |
| [09:05:00] | mchou: | it's really too bad they didnt do a great job marketing the film. |
| [09:06:00] | xris: | man, comes out to like $15 here after parking |
| [09:06:00] | mchou: | this year has been a great year for documentaries... |
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| [09:07:00] | mchou: | but that's only because "regular" movies have been TERRIBLE. |
| [09:07:00] | xris: | still need to go see the penguins |
| [09:07:00] | mchou: | like who'd want to go see Dukes of Hazzard?? |
| [09:07:00] | xris: | had plans to do it last weekend, but friends got sick |
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| [09:09:00] | mchou: | The very end of "Murderball" was a shocker to me. |
| [09:10:00] | genocide_ is now known as genocide | |
| [09:10:00] | xris: | don't think I've even heard of it. |
| [09:11:00] | mchou: | xris: you must go see it. |
| [09:11:00] | mchou: | I'm NOT kidding on this one. |
| [09:11:00] | xris: | how the hell do you play rugby with no arm or leg movement? |
| [09:11:00] | mchou: | that's not a "quad." It's a common misconception. |
| [09:12:00] | xris: | The condition is also termed tetraplegia; both terms mean "paralysis of four limbs". |
| [09:12:00] | mchou: | quad doesnt me no movement. it means impaired movement. |
| [09:12:00] | xris: | quad means four |
| [09:12:00] | mchou: | xris: nope. look it up. |
| [09:12:00] | xris: | but I see... partial |
| [09:12:00] | xris: | I am |
| [09:12:00] | xris: | that's quoted from wikipedia |
| [09:13:00] | xris: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadriplegic |
| [09:13:00] | mchou: | wikipedia is crap. |
| [09:13:00] | mchou: | most info in wikipedia is outright wrong. |
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| [09:14:00] | xris: | nonetheless, "quad" is still a latin root for "four" |
| [09:17:00] | Krazylegz: | Man, I need some SQL help tonight. This is going to drive me nuts. |
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| [09:27:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: tomorrow, maybe. |
| [09:27:00] | Krazylegz: | I don't think it's doable now. Too much data is missing to make it worthwhile. |
| [09:27:00] | Krazylegz: | It's not a difficult query. |
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| [09:39:00] | XAD|onoff: | xris... is internet wrong?? I think the romans didn't really new what they were talking about... ;-) |
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| [12:21:00] | ls--: | i'm having sound issues, there's only sound on some channels |
| [12:21:00] | ls--: | and a warning "mythtv audio buffer overflow audio data lost" |
| [12:21:00] | ls--: | anyone knows how to fix that? |
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| [12:26:00] | syle: | am i going to have a problem installing mythtv? i have an onboard video card and a pci express nvidia card, i want to be able to use the nvidia card for svideo out to tv |
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| [12:30:00] | myth1: | Anyone any experience with a sort-a-like setup as this? Two pc's in LAN. PC1 is connected to internet, running xp and uses ICS (firewall turned off for the moment). PC2 runs gentoo with mythtv. I have setup Mythweb which works inside the LAN, but not outside the LAN, even though I forwarded my mythweb port on PC1 to PC2. When performing port scan on my external IP adress, the mythweb port seems closed |
| [12:31:00] | myth1: | Does anybody has an idea how I can further investigate this problem. I think a good help might be if I were able to track a tcp-ip package |
| [12:31:00] | myth1: | and see where it is lost |
| [12:31:00] | myth1: | because there are two possibilities in my opinion |
| [12:31:00] | myth1: | or my PC1 is not forwarding to PC2 |
| [12:32:00] | myth1: | or my PC2 (linux) is not accepting anything from outside the lan |
| [12:32:00] | syle: | just guessing but probably by turning your firewall off your turned off your port forwarding to, enable firewall, port forward, and unblock that port |
| [12:34:00] | syle: | personally i don;t know why you just don;t get a netgear router like everyone else |
| [12:34:00] | syle: | your box gonna do wireless to? |
| [12:34:00] | syle: | lol |
| [12:35:00] | myth1: | I do have a router, but the problem is that my adsl modem is an usb model |
| [12:35:00] | syle: | so bitch and ask for an ethernet model |
| [12:35:00] | myth1: | and because it's not my lan, I did choose the cheapest setup |
| [12:36:00] | myth1: | in other words, it's not my decision about the network setup |
| [12:36:00] | syle: | don;t they have usb routers |
| [12:37:00] | myth1: | I never saw a router with an usb plugin for the wan port |
| [12:37:00] | directhex|work: | they exist |
| [12:37:00] | syle: | http://www.netgear.com/products/details/DG632.php |
| [12:37:00] | myth1: | and the modem was bought way before they needed a router |
| [12:38:00] | directhex|work: | the draytek 2200usb is the archetypal usb-based router |
| [12:38:00] | directhex|work: | i.e. has a USB port and support for about 20 usb modems |
| [12:38:00] | syle: | i shouldn;t say netgear , i use dlink myself since i find it works bettter with xbox etc |
| [12:39:00] | myth1: | ok, that's interesting to know if I ever need another router (thanks) |
| [12:39:00] | myth1: | but I am going to try the solution of syle now (the firewall turning on) |
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| [12:45:00] | syle: | if you want a quick hack solution , download a trial version of wingate and just port forward what you need |
| [12:45:00] | syle: | gl |
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| [12:48:00] | myth1: | i will try. That way I can also make sure the problem is with pc1 and not pc2 |
| [12:49:00] | syle: | just curious |
| [12:50:00] | syle: | but did you remember to turn iptables off on the linux box hehe |
| [12:50:00] | syle: | sometimes its stupid shit like that |
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| [15:30:00] | robin_: | do I need to connect two cables to the PVR-500, or is it splitting up the channels on-board? |
| [15:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | I think it has an internal splitter |
| [15:31:00] | robin_: | k |
| [15:31:00] | rw`: | it has two tuners, two cables needed |
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| [15:32:00] | robin_: | I know it has two tuners, but I thought it has een internal splitter |
| [15:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | It does |
| [15:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | You plug in 1 coax cable and it splits it |
| [15:34:00] | robin_: | ok thx. |
| [15:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | you see two connectors because one of them is for the radio |
| [15:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or so I've read |
| [15:34:00] | robin_: | ah I see. |
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| [15:45:00] | XAD|onoff: | Grey, thats correct... |
| [15:46:00] | rw`: | GreyFoxx, you are right, it has a spliter: http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2004/10/25/17174 . . . MCE_2005.jpg |
| [15:46:00] | XAD|onoff: | the radio is not splitted as it only contain one radio tuner... (connected to the 1:st encoder chip)... |
| [15:46:00] | rw`: | I wouldn't buy it if I had to plug two cables. |
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| [16:18:00] | robin_: | anyone ever tried to cross-compile Mythtv with Mingw32 / cygwin ? |
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| [16:19:00] | MrSpiffy: | Beirdo, Beirdo, Beirdo |
| [16:20:00] | MrSpiffy: | is Beirdo in the house? |
| [16:23:00] | NightBird: | doesn't look like it |
| [16:24:00] | MrSpiffy: | I'd like to ask him about nuvexport |
| [16:24:00] | MrSpiffy: | trying to export nuv to xvid |
| [16:24:00] | NightBird: | ok |
| [16:24:00] | MrSpiffy: | last attempt make a huge file |
| [16:25:00] | MrSpiffy: | here's my setup – I already transcoded the file in mythtv to 720x544 mpeg4 with mp3 audio |
| [16:25:00] | MrSpiffy: | commercials have been cut |
| [16:25:00] | MrSpiffy: | result is a 1.5G nuv file |
| [16:25:00] | MrSpiffy: | my goal is to export that to basically the same thing – avi |
| [16:26:00] | NightBird: | sounds like a plan to me |
| [16:26:00] | MrSpiffy: | I would like to get an xvid avi file that's about the same size |
| [16:26:00] | MrSpiffy: | output- 720x540 crop border, mpeg4/mp3 (xvid) that is about 1.5G |
| [16:27:00] | MrSpiffy: | my last attempt at constant bitrate and qscale of 2 took 12 hours and 3G – and it wasn't finished |
| [16:27:00] | MrSpiffy: | I'm tryng again with variable bit rate and qscale=6 |
| [16:27:00] | MrSpiffy: | note, 1 pass, no noise reduction, no deinterlce |
| [16:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | I wanted to ask him first because every test takes a day |
| [16:29:00] | NightBird: | hm... |
| [16:30:00] | MrSpiffy: | the job is running on a p4-ht 3G cpu |
| [16:30:00] | MrSpiffy: | what I have so far looks pretty good – only a little blocky around the creditst |
| [16:31:00] | MrSpiffy: | credits |
| [16:31:00] | MrSpiffy: | the transcode is running at 4 fps |
| [16:31:00] | MrSpiffy: | this will take a while |
| [16:31:00] | MrSpiffy: | I tried his nuvexport on the transcoded file – the result was an avi with a broken header and a slight audio sync problem |
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| [16:32:00] | MrSpiffy: | I tried fixing that with avimerge and avifix – no go |
| [16:32:00] | MrSpiffy: | so it looks like I'm stuck with the fifo method |
| [16:34:00] | NightBird: | hm... |
| [16:34:00] | NightBird: | good luck with that |
| [16:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | yeah |
| [16:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | heh |
| [16:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | thanks |
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| [17:39:00] | butabi: | why am i getting "2005-08–17 17:29:21.944 DVB#0 ERROR – Tuning for channel #46 failed." ? i tried every channel now, but it always fails to tune :( although the channels were scanned by the same card ... |
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| [18:17:00] | riksta: | hey, can anyone help here please |
| [18:18:00] | riksta: | when i run configure i get Removing CPU specific compilation options. (-march=x86_64) |
| [18:18:00] | xris: | --help ? |
| [18:18:00] | riksta: | obviously i already did --help |
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| [18:19:00] | Tommck: | riksta – maybe you're not on a 64-bit chip? ;) |
| [18:19:00] | Tommck: | or you're not running a 64-bit kernel? |
| [18:19:00] | riksta: | of course i am |
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| [18:19:00] | riksta: | Linux ethan.orb.org 2.6.11–1.1369_FC4 #1 Thu Jun 2 22:56:33 EDT 2005 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| [18:19:00] | ** Tommck likes starting with the obvious stuff ** | |
| [18:19:00] | Tommck: | is the computer plugged in? |
| [18:19:00] | riksta: | :) |
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| [18:19:00] | Tommck: | any other messages before that? |
| [18:19:00] | xris: | riksta: fc4 puts 64 bit libraries in a nonstandard place |
| [18:20:00] | xris: | you need to patch mythtv |
| [18:20:00] | riksta: | ahh xris |
| [18:20:00] | Beirdo: | go, Warren |
| [18:20:00] | Tommck: | ahh... someone with knowledge... teach us master |
| [18:20:00] | xris: | http://forevermore.net/files/mythtv_misc/mythtv.spec |
| [18:20:00] | riksta: | thanks a lot |
| [18:20:00] | xris: | not warren in this case |
| [18:20:00] | xris: | riksta: should be a commented section talking about that. |
| [18:20:00] | Beirdo: | I'll blame him anyways |
| [18:20:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [18:20:00] | xris: | or you could just use the spec |
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| [18:21:00] | riksta: | xris: is there a howto on that |
| [18:21:00] | xris: | Beirdo: it's actually handy.. lets 64 bit and 32 bit stuff coexist on the same system |
| [18:21:00] | xris: | riksta: you using svn? |
| [18:21:00] | riksta: | no just 0.18.1 |
| [18:21:00] | Tommck: | Beirdo – are you cheering on a network of rabbit burrows? Or should I know someone named Warren? |
| [18:21:00] | xris: | my spec won't work, thewn |
| [18:21:00] | xris: | s/w// |
| [18:21:00] | Beirdo: | Tommck: you obviously don't know the Fedora crowd :) |
| [18:22:00] | Tommck: | :) |
| [18:22:00] | ** Tommck wonders how often people hear references to networks of rabbit burrows ** | |
| [18:22:00] | riksta: | xris: how do i do it then pls |
| [18:22:00] | xris: | riksta: why not just use the atrpms packages? |
| [18:23:00] | riksta: | it says that mtd was compiled without transcode support when you use them |
| [18:23:00] | xris: | but... search the file for "Replace static lib paths" and run those commands from inside the source dir |
| [18:23:00] | riksta: | ok |
| [18:23:00] | riksta: | thanks |
| [18:23:00] | xris: | spec is basically a shellscript with a little extra formatting |
| [18:24:00] | xris: | and I've tried to make sure everything in there is commented and readable (it's unofficially the official mythtv spec) |
| [18:24:00] | xris: | (since jarod uses it for some of his releases) |
| [18:24:00] | riksta: | xris: i ran those commands, is there anything else |
| [18:25:00] | xris: | riksta: read the file and see if you think you need anything else |
| [18:25:00] | xris: | but... why not try to configure, and see if it worked? |
| [18:26:00] | riksta: | i did, it didnt :) |
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| [18:27:00] | xris: | all I know is that rpm will occasionally pass its own march stuff to make, regardless of what the program requests. |
| [18:27:00] | XAD|onoff: | lol... not easy for the kernel to know what to do then... except for returning an error... ;-= |
| [18:27:00] | XAD|onoff: | ;-) |
| [18:27:00] | butabi: | ne1 using knoppmyth and did a recompile of mythtv? |
| [18:27:00] | Beirdo: | I dunno, ask ne1 |
| [18:27:00] | riksta: | xris: i run the configure, and it gives me all the yes/no options but the mythtv.pro is not changed at all |
| [18:27:00] | xris: | but why not try --enable-proc-opts, or whatever it is? |
| [18:27:00] | riksta: | i tried it |
| [18:27:00] | XAD|onoff: | well try 'find' and see if it excist somewhere else.... |
| [18:28:00] | xris: | riksta: you need to "qmake settings.pro" first |
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| [18:28:00] | riksta: | shit i ran it on the mythtv.pro |
| [18:28:00] | xris: | configure, settings.pro, mythtv.pro |
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| [18:28:00] | xris: | ..make |
| [18:28:00] | butabi: | Beirdo: please excuse my l33tness ... |
| [18:28:00] | XAD|onoff: | ahh.. sorry wrong channel... |
| [18:29:00] | riksta: | xris: that isn't what the docs say |
| [18:29:00] | riksta: | it says configure ; qmake mythtv.pro ; make |
| [18:29:00] | xris: | riksta: dunno, that's what the spec does |
| [18:29:00] | xris: | wait, no |
| [18:29:00] | riksta: | anyway the qmake i tried on settings.pro too, it doesnt put anything in the files |
| [18:29:00] | xris: | mythtv.pro loads settings.pro |
| [18:30:00] | riksta: | well when i run qmake on mythtv.pro it just stay the same (configure needs to be run) it says inside |
| [18:30:00] | Chutt: | you don't use settings.pro |
| [18:30:00] | Chutt: | mythtv.pro doesn't get modified |
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| [18:31:00] | riksta: | i used mythtv.pro ChanServ |
| [18:31:00] | riksta: | Chutt: doh |
| [18:31:00] | Chutt: | you run configure first |
| [18:31:00] | Chutt: | and if you're using svn, you don't even need to do the qmake step |
| [18:31:00] | riksta: | this is the problem, i have been doing, it doesnt populate the .pro |
| [18:31:00] | Chutt: | it doesn't populate the .pro |
| [18:32:00] | Chutt: | as i just said: 'mythtv.pro doesn't get modified' |
| [18:32:00] | Chutt: | so i fail to see how that can be your problem. |
| [18:32:00] | riksta: | ok, well on running the configure, it prints the all the yes/no options etc, everything seems fine |
| [18:32:00] | riksta: | then when you go for the make |
| [18:32:00] | riksta: | common.h:61: error: array type has incomplete element type |
| [18:32:00] | riksta: | these kinda make errors appear immediately |
| [18:33:00] | Chutt: | uh |
| [18:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | hahah |
| [18:33:00] | Chutt: | that has absolutely nothing to do with configure or qmake |
| [18:33:00] | riksta: | well i was just told it was by xris |
| [18:33:00] | Chutt: | cut your -march you're passing to configure |
| [18:34:00] | riksta: | i did i removed all the cpu/arch specifics |
| [18:34:00] | Chutt: | then you wouldn't be getting those errors anymore |
| [18:34:00] | Chutt: | or, just use current svn |
| [18:34:00] | riksta: | ./configure --disable-audio-jack --disable-audio-arts --disable-joystick-menu --prefix=/usr ; qmake mythtv.pro ; make |
| [18:35:00] | riksta: | i still get them |
| [18:37:00] | xris: | Chutt: he's not running svn |
| [18:37:00] | riksta: | xris: i think he knows that |
| [18:37:00] | Chutt: | that's why i said 'or, just use current svn' |
| [18:37:00] | xris: | didn't know about the not needing the qmake part, though... should see what I can pull out of my spec |
| [18:38:00] | riksta: | Chutt: i want to use 0.18.1 stable |
| [18:38:00] | xris: | Chutt: (I read the "if you're using svn" first) |
| [18:38:00] | Chutt: | riksta, why? |
| [18:38:00] | riksta: | why do i want it stable? |
| [18:39:00] | Chutt: | why do you think that that's any more stable? |
| [18:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | A release does NOT guarantee stability |
| [18:39:00] | Beirdo: | it's just a static target rather than a more moving one :) |
| [18:39:00] | Chutt: | your issues are showing that it's not :p |
| [18:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | This is a very common misconception in the computer world |
| [18:39:00] | Chutt: | and if you just want to use the release, there's lots of packages to use |
| [18:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | A release is just a arbitrary "looks ok" cut off |
| [18:39:00] | riksta: | i know but it is more likely to be seeing as it's pretty old now, and that you cant magically tell what new bugs are introduced into svn recently, even if your name _IS_ chutt :) |
| [18:40:00] | Chutt: | there's certainly no need to compile a release on your own |
| [18:40:00] | Beirdo: | unless you use a unique distro, I guess |
| [18:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | Man ccache is one handy app |
| [18:41:00] | xris: | GreyFoxx: quite |
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| [18:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Especially when you are on your 15th "make" of the same code with few changes :) |
| [18:42:00] | ** xris sees now why the spec still needs to run qmake... ** | |
| [18:42:00] | Chutt: | why? |
| [18:42:00] | xris: | some plugins and parts of mythtv apparently don't honor --prefix properly |
| [18:42:00] | Chutt: | unless it's not running configure |
| [18:42:00] | Chutt: | not in current svn |
| [18:42:00] | xris: | oh? everything's fixed? |
| [18:42:00] | Chutt: | if they don't, you're patching something in there |
| [18:43:00] | Chutt: | and that should be fixed in the source, not in the spec |
| [18:43:00] | xris: | I agree.. spec is a workaround for source not being updated. |
| [18:43:00] | xris: | the other stuff, I'm not sure about... seems a bunch of axel-type tweaks of stuff like march |
| [18:44:00] | xris: | editing QMAKE_CXXFLAGS_RELEASE and QMAKE_CFLAGS_RELEASE |
| [18:44:00] | xris: | (over-my-head stuff) |
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| [18:45:00] | xris: | more than happy to remove that stuff, but don't really know what's what, so I leave it in |
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| [18:49:00] | butabi: | anyone knows how to enable dvb-eit in settings.pro (i want to create .deb files)? |
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| [18:49:00] | xris: | butabi: why not just use the official ones? |
| [18:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Can't just do it in ./configure ? |
| [18:49:00] | xris: | but that was my next suggestion |
| [18:50:00] | butabi: | xris: im unfortunately using knoppmyth, and the source for the debs is allready coming patched here, would come in handy if i could use that one to create the debs |
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| [18:51:00] | xris: | butabi: can't you "apt-get source" and get the debs from there, and modify them, rather than creating your own from scratch? |
| [18:52:00] | butabi: | well, i dont know where the problem is, it would be the same source anyway ... i just need to find out where to find the option for dvb-eit (other than the configure parameter) |
| [18:52:00] | xris: | butabi: there are two dvb configure options |
| [18:53:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [18:53:00] | Chutt: | time to update ubuntu on my production myth box |
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| [18:55:00] | xris: | Chutt: looks like I'd already fixed the prefix thing in my mythplugins spec |
| [18:56:00] | xris: | ahh, mythmovietime still had it. checking now |
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| [18:59:00] | xris: | ok, mythplugins still requires the qmake |
| [18:59:00] | xris: | mythmovietime, that is.. plugins works fine |
| [19:00:00] | xris: | and prefix is still messed up |
| [19:00:00] | xris: | wait, no configure settings... |
| [19:06:00] | xris: | ooh, major commits in mythtv recently |
| [19:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | dtk has been a busy fella |
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| [19:23:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [19:23:00] | Chutt: | i didn't exactly test much of what i committed last night |
| [19:23:00] | Chutt: | so, uh, don't blame me if it's broken =) |
| [19:24:00] | ** Tommck starts seeing why the release might be more stable :) ** | |
| [19:25:00] | Chutt: | naw |
| [19:25:00] | Tommck: | hehe |
| [19:25:00] | Chutt: | everything was low risk stuff |
| [19:25:00] | Tommck: | I'm just playing |
| [19:25:00] | riksta: | Chutt: svn is compliling fine thanks |
| [19:25:00] | Chutt: | thought it would |
| [19:25:00] | riksta: | compiling even |
| [19:26:00] | riksta: | i'd be interested to know the reason it was happening in 0.18.1 tho |
| [19:27:00] | Chutt: | you've got the source |
| [19:27:00] | riksta: | am new to the 64bit stuff |
| [19:42:00] | mwtb: | To get Mythweb working with an MP3 directory, I jut have to create a symlink to the appropriate directory as /mythweb/music and set permissions on the directory for apache, right? Am I missing anything? |
| [19:47:00] | Krazylegz: | You mean to get the Music part of MythWeb working? |
| [19:48:00] | ** xris just wants a commit to fix #213 ** | |
| [19:48:00] | mwtb: | Yes, so I can access mp3s in my library via the browser. |
| [19:48:00] | Krazylegz: | They should just work. |
| [19:49:00] | Krazylegz: | They don't show up? |
| [19:49:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: only show up if you scan first via the frontend. |
| [19:50:00] | Krazylegz: | With Utilities->Music? |
| [19:50:00] | Chutt: | xris, so get me a backtrace |
| [19:50:00] | xris: | Chutt: I know.. just need the time to do it. |
| [19:50:00] | mwtb: | They show up, but there's a permissions failure on access. I've tried chowning the link and dir behind it to apache, but no dice. |
| [19:50:00] | xris: | plus, it's an infinite-seeming loop, not a hang, so not sure how to deal with that |
| [19:51:00] | Chutt: | just hit ctl-c |
| [19:51:00] | Chutt: | :p |
| [19:51:00] | Chutt: | and maybe use 'cont' and ctl-c again |
| [19:51:00] | Chutt: | to get another backtrace |
| [19:51:00] | xris: | well, I know very little about debugging. but will try to come up with something soon. |
| [19:52:00] | xris: | someone here should be able to walk me through any trouble I have. |
| [19:52:00] | Chutt: | i can't reproduce the issue |
| [19:52:00] | xris: | figured |
| [19:54:00] | riksta: | will the svn frontend only build on a mac mini |
| [19:54:00] | hadeees: | has anyone bought a air2pc card recently? |
| [19:55:00] | hadeees: | i placed a back order with cyberstore and they still don't have it |
| [19:55:00] | kormoc: | Riff-Raff, mac mini is no different then any other ppc osx box |
| [19:56:00] | kormoc: | erm, that was to riksta, not Riff-Raff |
| [19:56:00] | xris: | hadeees: I don't think anyone has it |
| [19:56:00] | riksta: | oki |
| [19:57:00] | hadeees: | xris, i wonder whats going on |
| [19:57:00] | hadeees: | they were supposed to be here like a couple months ago right? |
| [20:00:00] | xris: | hadeees: dopester's the only one I can think of who might know.. I think there was some kind of manufacturing issue (duh) |
| [20:03:00] | butabi: | man, compiling takes long :) |
| [20:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | butabi: heh |
| [20:04:00] | ** GreyFoxx holds his breath as his compile reaches mythfrontend ** | |
| [20:06:00] | Chutt: | can someone test out the patch from #155? |
| [20:06:00] | Chutt: | just make sure it connects to the backend properly.. |
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| [20:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | I can check it out later tonight , but it's gonna be several hours before I get the chance |
| [20:09:00] | Chutt: | ah, no worries |
| [20:09:00] | Chutt: | i'm the same way :p |
| [20:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [20:09:00] | Chutt: | i'll test it tonight, then |
| [20:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've goofing around compiling Mythfrontend on a OpenBSD box. looks like it's almost done |
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| [20:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | very minor patching (so far) |
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| [20:13:00] | Chutt: | bugzilla's gone, as of now |
| [20:13:00] | Chutt: | silly people keep using it |
| [20:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [20:14:00] | Chutt: | man |
| [20:14:00] | Chutt: | looking at some of the random change on the wiki |
| [20:14:00] | Chutt: | some people _really_ need a dictionary |
| [20:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | or the wiki needs a "are you sure" dictionary popup :) |
| [20:15:00] | Chutt: | konq's got built in dictionary stuff now |
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| [20:16:00] | Chutt: | kind of annoying, actually |
| [20:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use to hate the one in MSWord, but as I've been forced to use it more it's come in handy |
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| [20:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | Wooop, mythfrontend running under OpenBSD |
| [20:54:00] | NightBird: | cool |
| [20:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | Of course I have no backend here to verify that it will actually PLAY anything |
| [20:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | but at least it's running and I can hit the database and such :) |
| [20:55:00] | GeckoFiend: | chutt: speaking of the wiki... hows the conversion from mythtv.info coming? |
| [20:56:00] | FITH: | GreyFoxx: Cool! How much hacking on top of the stock 0.18.1 code? |
| [20:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | FITH: I don't use 0.18.1, so I couldn't say for sure. But against SVN from yesterday it was very very minor |
| [20:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | I haven't touched any plugins or anything, just mythtv and all of it's components |
| [20:56:00] | FITH: | Thats awesome! |
| [20:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | It was mostly a header here and there, replacing round() with rint() etc |
| [20:57:00] | Chutt: | geckofiend, they've got it almost there |
| [20:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | and linking in libossaudio under OpenBSD |
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| [20:58:00] | xris: | sweet |
| [20:58:00] | xris: | (re wiki) |
| [20:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | FITH: A coworker/friend who has a backend/frontend asked if he could run mythfrontend on his desktops (all OpenBSD) so I figured Iwould see what it would take. And it was suprisly little effort |
| [20:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | But I have no proof this will actually play anything yet so, at this point it's just a menu :) |
| [20:59:00] | GeckoFiend: | GreyFoxx still need a videoout object for it don't you? |
| [20:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | GeckoFiend: just using XVB |
| [20:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | GeckoFiend: just using XV |
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| [21:00:00] | FITH: | Yeah, I use OpenBSD on a lot of machines as well... I'll have to play with it! |
| [21:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | If this works relatively well, I'll look at the plugins (at least mythvideo since I use that most) heh |
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| [21:07:00] | BrianCW: | I'm having issues getting my frontend machine to connect to my backend's mysql database |
| [21:08:00] | BrianCW: | when I try to allow outside connections in the DB by using the line grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"%" identified by "mythtv"; it always says "0 lines changed" or something like that |
| [21:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | FITH: http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/mythtv-openbsdvm.jpg |
| [21:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | BrianCW: Are you sure you want to open up to ALL IPs? |
| [21:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | BrianCW: And have you followed up the grant with a flush privileges; ? |
| [21:09:00] | BrianCW: | well, I don't really care one way or the other.. I know it's less secure and all, but I'm not too worried |
| [21:10:00] | BrianCW: | yeah, I used the flush privliges;, and still nothing |
| [21:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | Maybe %.%.%.% ? I've never allowed access to it from * before, only from a.b.c.* |
| [21:11:00] | BrianCW: | so is % the wildcard character in sql? |
| [21:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [21:11:00] | BrianCW: | ok, maybe thats my problem |
| [21:11:00] | FITH: | GreyFoxx: Oh sweet! I think I have a box to try it out with at home... and it's a good reason to finally upgrade my aging 0.16 setup :) |
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| [21:13:00] | BrianCW: | here is what I get now |
| [21:13:00] | BrianCW: | mysql> grant all on mythconverg.% to mythtv@"192.168.2.%" identified by "mythtv"; |
| [21:13:00] | BrianCW: | ERROR 1064: You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '% to mythtv@"192.168.2.%" identified by "mythtv"' at line 1 |
| [21:14:00] | BrianCW: | but if I go back to * characters, it goes through and gives me the "Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec)" message |
| [21:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | BrianCW: Ok, when referring to the db/tables it's *, when referring to a data being matched against it's % |
| [21:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | so mythtconverg.* and '192.168.0.%' |
| [21:17:00] | BrianCW: | ok, that makes sense |
| [21:18:00] | BrianCW: | do i need to restart my mysqld processes? |
| [21:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can do that, but flush privileges should do it |
| [21:18:00] | BrianCW: | ok |
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| [21:19:00] | BrianCW: | damn, still didn't do it |
| [21:19:00] | BrianCW: | is there a way to change the passwords for users of a DB? |
| [21:20:00] | Krazylegz: | BrianCW: If, like me, you prefer to edit the tables using SQL, you can do that as well. Just edit the mysql table. |
| [21:23:00] | BrianCW: | that will probably be over my head.. I have almost 0 knowledge of sql.. I just want the stinking mythfrontend to work |
| [21:23:00] | amax is now known as amax_ | |
| [21:24:00] | BrianCW: | well, while we're on the topic of sql, is there a way to take a DB off one computer and put it on another? |
| [21:24:00] | BrianCW: | is it as simple as a cp command, or something different? |
| [21:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | BrianCW: In some cases you can just copy over the data files, or just use mysqldump to dump the database/tables out to a text file, and then you can pipe that file into the destination machine |
| [21:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | mysqldump -ublah -pblah dbname > file.sql then on the new machine after the user blah is created and the blank dbname is created mysql -ublah -pblah dbname < file.sql |
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| [21:26:00] | BrianCW: | ok, that should be simple enough |
| [21:30:00] | Krazylegz: | Try it on MS SQL and then tell us that it's hard on MySQL. :-) |
| [21:31:00] | Spida_: | *g* |
| [21:31:00] | Spida_ is now known as Spida | |
| [21:31:00] | Spida: | anybody here using mythmusic with a LARGE collection of music? |
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| [21:37:00] | jvs: | Spida: about 100 gig |
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| [21:44:00] | andrew1531: | good evening :) |
| [21:45:00] | andrew1531: | any uk users? |
| [21:45:00] | darkfire: | greetings |
| [21:45:00] | andrew1531: | I'm having a spot of bother with getting listings |
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| [21:46:00] | Krazylegz: | Holy UK speak. |
| [21:46:00] | Spida: | jvs: and you are actually using it? I get VERY poor performance and crashes with more than 40gig |
| [21:46:00] | andrew1531: | :p |
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| [21:50:00] | Spida: | i am thinking about patching amarok to be used with mythtv... remote-controllable ui for usage on low resolutions... |
| [21:50:00] | GeckoFiend: | snicker: " Using Perl is like making fireproof toys for tots out of asbestos, and coating them with lead paint." |
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| [21:58:00] | butabi: | if i got 2 soundcards in my pc, and alsa accidently used the wrong card, what can i do to use the other card? :) |
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| [22:01:00] | butabi: | solved :) |
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| [22:03:00] | Discipulus: | heh |
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| [22:04:00] | Krazylegz: | This channel is just that good. :-) |
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| [22:33:00] | terevos: | hey all.. I'm having some trouble with mythweb.. |
| [22:34:00] | xris: | and that trouble is..... |
| [22:34:00] | i10neorg: | I know the rc-5 system and command codes I'd like to use. What remotes allow me to program them? |
| [22:34:00] | i10neorg: | I have a universal, but it seems to only know a popular subset. |
| [22:34:00] | terevos: | fsockopen() [function.fsockopen]: unable to connect to 192.168.1.150:6543 (Permission denied) |
| [22:34:00] | terevos: | yes – mythbackend is running |
| [22:34:00] | i10neorg: | Specifically, I need systm code 19 (0x13) |
| [22:34:00] | terevos: | yes – I can connect to it from a remote frontend |
| [22:34:00] | i10neorg: | I think pronto can do it, any others? |
| [22:34:00] | xris: | terevos: fedora? |
| [22:35:00] | terevos: | xris: fedora 4 |
| [22:35:00] | xris: | turn off selinux |
| [22:35:00] | terevos: | hmm.. didn't think of that.. it's not supposed to be on.. but I'll see if it is |
| [22:36:00] | xris: | I should put that into the readme |
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| [22:39:00] | terevos: | xris: man.. I feel dumb.. I believe that was it |
| [22:40:00] | terevos: | is there a way I can do this without rebooting? |
| [22:41:00] | terevos: | nevermind – found it – setenforce |
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| [22:43:00] | terevos: | xris: do you maintain Wilson's Mythology page? |
| [22:43:00] | GeckoFiend: | terevos that's j-rod |
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| [22:45:00] | Muxen: | Can anyone point me to an lircrc that works with the new black and grey hauppauge (comes with 350) ?? |
| [22:45:00] | Beirdo: | google might be able to |
| [22:46:00] | Muxen: | started there of course |
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| [22:46:00] | mchou: | What doesnt work? |
| [22:46:00] | terevos: | Thanks xris – working well now |
| [22:46:00] | Muxen: | just cant get all the buttons mapped correctly |
| [22:46:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [22:47:00] | mchou: | then it's working :) |
| [22:47:00] | kormoc: | Muxen, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV#Set . . . 2Flircd.conf |
| [22:47:00] | kormoc: | Muxen, first hit |
| [22:47:00] | kormoc: | "If you have the newer versions of the hauppage remote which is grey on top and black on the bottom then you can get a replacement for the /etc/lircd.conf file here" |
| [22:47:00] | Muxen: | I assumed that since it's somewhat working the lircd.conf is ok – but not the lircrc ? |
| [22:48:00] | xris: | terevos: selinux is a bane upon anyone who actually WANTS to run server processes |
| [22:49:00] | i10neorg: | the "irw" will show if your lircd.conf is right. |
| [22:49:00] | terevos: | xris: yeah – I had chosen to not have it during the install.. but I forgot that it's still enabled for network processes.. I think I had that problem with Fedora Core 3, too.. but I had totally forgot about it |
| [22:49:00] | kormoc: | Muxen, then just use the lircrc from that same page |
| [22:49:00] | kormoc: | sorry obut that |
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| [22:53:00] | Muxen: | the lircrc at that link is for the 'grey remote' not the black and grey |
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| [22:56:00] | terevos: | ok, here's another good one – not a big deal.. but does anyone know why when I do nuvexport, it won't show me the percentage complete or fps? |
| [22:57:00] | IzNoGooD: | I'm trying to get an external tuner working with mythtv but have no clue how to go about this |
| [22:57:00] | IzNoGooD: | I created the changechannel script as stated on the homepage |
| [22:57:00] | IzNoGooD: | should I enter this in the mythtv-setup programm somewhere? |
| [23:00:00] | terevos: | no one actually uses nuvexport do they? heheh |
| [23:01:00] | xris: | terevos: sometimes it just doesn't work |
| [23:01:00] | xris: | transcode may or may not print the info nuvexport needs, etc. |
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| [23:02:00] | terevos: | hmm.. that's strange.. wonder if it's broken in the lastest release (myth 0.18.1) – it worked for me on my previous setup, which was 0.18 – but maybe I was just lucky |
| [23:04:00] | darkfire: | i had an 0.18.1 nuvexport work fine for me |
| [23:05:00] | xris: | nuvexport was never .18.1 |
| [23:05:00] | darkfire: | well, the nuvexport that was included in that release of myth, rather |
| [23:06:00] | darkfire: | or one that worked with that release of myth, in the case that it's not actually included with it, and i just forgot that i installed it seperately ;) |
| [23:06:00] | xris: | terevos: it's likely ffmpeg or something |
| [23:06:00] | xris: | darkfire: nuvexport is not included with mythtv. |
| [23:06:00] | xris: | and works with pretty much any version after .17 |
| [23:07:00] | terevos: | sorry – I was mistaken.. I did install nuvexport after the fact – it's 0.2 0.20050723.cvs – I think that's pretty recent |
| [23:08:00] | terevos: | I've got the latest ffmpeg as well (0.4.9-pre1) – do you think there's something wrong with my install of ffmpeg? |
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| [23:10:00] | xris: | no. I'm just saying that sometimes it doesn't pick up on whatever it uses to determine framerate, etc. |
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| [23:10:00] | xris: | I don't use ffmpeg (I think it looks crappy for xvid), so if the strings have changed, I haven't noticed, and no one has reported the issue. |
| [23:11:00] | terevos: | what do you use for transcoding? |
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| [23:12:00] | xris: | transcode |
| [23:12:00] | xris: | well, nuvexport --transcode |
| [23:13:00] | terevos: | and that doesn't use ffmpeg? |
| [23:13:00] | xris: | no, it uses transcode |
| [23:13:00] | terevos: | hmm.. I'll have to try it out |
| [23:14:00] | terevos: | no DivX option for transcode? |
| [23:14:00] | xris: | ffmpeg apparently has better/faster mpeg export stuff, but imho transcode produces better xvids. |
| [23:14:00] | xris: | fedora transcode doesn't work with divx, so I've never been able to make a module |
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| [23:15:00] | terevos: | I like xvid.. but my Palm has a hard time rewinding and ffing xvids for some reason |
| [23:15:00] | xris: | it's sad.. they're supposed to be identical. heh |
| [23:16:00] | terevos: | I'm getting a new Palm soon (Treo 650) – I'll have to try it with that one. (using mmplayer on Palm) |
| [23:17:00] | terevos: | well – it might have something to do with the VBR. in the last version of nuvexport, they didn't have VBR with DivX export.. so I've never tried DivX w/ VBR with the Palm – that might not work either |
| [23:17:00] | terevos: | and Xvid is always VBR, isn't it? |
| [23:17:00] | xris: | so is divx, afaik |
| [23:19:00] | terevos: | no, you can choose to do VBR or not with DivX – or at least that's what it tells me I have a choice of |
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| [23:23:00] | i10neorg: | Is it true a hauppauge IR receiver cannot understand encodings other than RC-5 (like sony's)? |
| [23:25:00] | xris: | terevos: I believe "not vbr" is just "vbr but with the max and min set to the same" |
| [23:26:00] | terevos: | yeah, that would make sense |
| [23:27:00] | terevos: | anyways – thanks for the help.. see ya around |
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| [23:33:00] | darkfire: | ok, so, is Xvid just Divx backwards, or is Divx Xvid backwards? |
| [23:34:00] | darkfire: | Which one modeled their name off of the other? |
| [23:34:00] | ** Beirdo points at google ** | |
| [23:35:00] | darkfire: | aww pfft. i was asking more from sheer curiousity than a need to know, plus it's a good conversational topic, i'd say. |
| [23:36:00] | Beirdo: | pretty sure divx was first, but google can tell you |
| [23:37:00] | xris: | xvid is an open-source implementation of divx |
| [23:37:00] | darkfire: | but, the name Xvid makes sense, somewhat. Divx just seems somewhat arbitrary, unless it's supposed to be Xvid backwards |
| [23:38:00] | xris: | no clue there |
| [23:38:00] | Beirdo: | Xvid is Divx backwards |
| [23:38:00] | xris: | I remember seeing divx long before xvid was around, though |
| [23:38:00] | Beirdo: | on purpose |
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| [23:39:00] | darkfire: | Divx was originally an acronym for Digital Video Express. |
| [23:39:00] | darkfire: | it would seem. |
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| [23:42:00] | gf: | i need knoppmyth help bad, cant get my network card to work at all |
| [23:42:00] | gf: | netcardconfig just tells me that i dont have a network device |
| [23:42:00] | Krazylegz: | Which card? |
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| [23:42:00] | gf: | onboard lan |
| [23:42:00] | Beirdo: | so get a card that's supported? |
| [23:43:00] | Krazylegz: | Which chipset? |
| [23:43:00] | gf: | 865pe |
| [23:43:00] | gf: | intel |
| [23:43:00] | gf: | i think its realtek lan |
| [23:43:00] | Krazylegz: | Which LAN chipset? |
| [23:43:00] | Krazylegz: | You think? Can you find out what it is? |
| [23:43:00] | gf: | yea |
| [23:43:00] | gf: | getting it right now |
| [23:43:00] | gf: | ok its 3com |
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| [23:44:00] | Krazylegz: | Which one? |
| [23:44:00] | gf: | 1 sec |
| [23:44:00] | gf: | still searching |
| [23:46:00] | gf: | whats a good site to find this |
| [23:46:00] | gf: | its an abit is7 |
| [23:46:00] | gf: | the abit site is terrible |
| [23:46:00] | darkfire: | your motherboard's manufaturer. |
| [23:46:00] | gf: | the abit site is terrible |
| [23:46:00] | darkfire: | try just googling abit is7 |
| [23:47:00] | gf: | i did |
| [23:47:00] | gf: | all i see is info about the is7-g |
| [23:47:00] | darkfire: | find a place that sells it and is really specific |
| [23:47:00] | darkfire: | ::shrug:: dunno what to say then |
| [23:47:00] | gf: | heh |
| [23:47:00] | gf: | i'll keep searching |
| [23:48:00] | gf: | http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/reviews/mo . . . IMG_0005.JPG |
| [23:48:00] | darkfire: | heh |
| [23:48:00] | gf: | lol |
| [23:48:00] | gf: | a picture but they dont give u shit for info |
| [23:49:00] | darkfire: | "Which LAN Chipset?" "That one." (points) |
| [23:49:00] | gf: | :) |
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| [23:50:00] | mchou: | wow, I didnt know the marvell chip is from 3com..... |
| [23:50:00] | gf: | learn new stuff everyday |
| [23:50:00] | mchou: | yeah, no kidding :) |
| [23:51:00] | mchou: | has marvell always been 3com or 3com just licensed it? |
| [23:51:00] | butabi: | anyone familiar with lirc and a hauppauge remote? |
| [23:51:00] | Krazylegz: | gf: Sometimes I load up Knoppix to figure out which drivers I need, if I'm lazy. |
| [23:51:00] | gf: | i have knoppik up |
| [23:51:00] | gf: | how do i find out krazy? |
| [23:52:00] | Krazylegz: | lsmod |
| [23:52:00] | gf: | ok now what |
| [23:52:00] | butabi: | cause i get "could not open /dev/lirc" when i try to run lircd |
| [23:53:00] | gf: | there are so many things, where should i look |
| [23:54:00] | Krazylegz: | gf: Now you look at the modules. |
| [23:54:00] | Krazylegz: | This is assuming that Knoppix has setup your hardware properly. Did it setup your LAN card? |
| [23:54:00] | gf: | what should stand out when i'm looking at this list? |
| [23:54:00] | gf: | no |
| [23:54:00] | gf: | thats the problem |
| [23:54:00] | gf: | it wont even recognize the damn thing |
| [23:54:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh. Well, then you're SOL. Back to doing it the old-fashioned way. |
| [23:54:00] | gf: | which is... |
| [23:54:00] | mchou: | gf: lspci in pastebin.com |
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| [23:55:00] | gf: | mchou, what does that mean |
| [23:55:00] | Krazylegz: | Google and lspci, etc. |
| [23:55:00] | mchou: | it means type lspci and paste it in pastebin. |
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| [23:55:00] | mchou: | fucking noobs |
| [23:56:00] | gf: | lol |
| [23:56:00] | gf: | i'm good with winblows |
| [23:56:00] | gf: | but a tard with linux |
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| [23:57:00] | mchou: | Wonder if Marvell got acquired by 3com..... |
| [23:57:00] | mchou: | nope, web site doesn't seem to suggest it..... |
| [23:57:00] | Krazylegz: | mchou: Haha. |
| [23:57:00] | mchou: | Krazylegz: why is that so funny? |
| [23:58:00] | mchou: | that marvell phy has a 3com logo on it. |
| [23:58:00] | mchou: | I've never seen that before. |
| [23:58:00] | Krazylegz: | mchou: The yelling at a n00b was funny. |
| [23:59:00] | gf: | hey! |
| [23:59:00] | gf: | :( |
| [23:59:00] | Krazylegz: | Haha. |
| [23:59:00] | Krazylegz: | gf: Making any progress? |
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| [23:59:00] | gf: | god no |
| [23:59:00] | gf: | i cant believe that nobody has the info on teh chip |
| [23:59:00] | Krazylegz: | Still waiting on that pastebin. |
| [23:59:00] | Krazylegz: | You don't know which chip it is yet. |
| [23:59:00] | gf: | i dont even know how pastebin works |
| [23:59:00] | gf: | i know its 3com |
| [23:59:00] | gf: | but nobody and i mean nobody has info on it |
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