| Tuesday, August 16th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | dmz: | i can capture mpeg by cat /dev/video0 > file.mpeg and view it fine, however when I run mythtv-setup it only sees a standard v4l device, it doesn't see the 350 mpeg encoder |
| [00:01:00] | dmz: | and other issue is i have my output going to the 350 video out working good for menus/etc, but when I run mplayer (dvd) or view channels it never seems to go anywhere. if I ssh in I can see them running with "xv" option, but nothing on the screen. |
| [00:01:00] | topping: | dmz: that setting you are looking at that it "sees"... that's a popup |
| [00:01:00] | dmz: | i'm using ivtv-0.3.7c |
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| [00:01:00] | topping: | navigate to it with the up/down keys, then use left/right to change it |
| [00:02:00] | jonK: | when you run mythtv-setup it wont let you change the capture card type? |
| [00:02:00] | dmz: | topping, in the setup you mean? i can't seem to get anything |
| [00:02:00] | jonK: | v4l may just be the first entry on a list |
| [00:02:00] | dmz: | correct it won't let me change card type |
| [00:02:00] | topping: | go to that dialog in mythtv-setup |
| [00:02:00] | dmz: | no mouse and it doesn't seem to even go into that field |
| [00:02:00] | dmz: | let me try again, 1 sec |
| [00:02:00] | topping: | use the keyboard |
| [00:02:00] | jonK: | did you build myth from source? |
| [00:02:00] | dmz: | no debian package |
| [00:03:00] | dmz: | 0.18.1 |
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| [00:04:00] | dmz: | oh and my xserver is using ivtvdev for the fbdev |
| [00:04:00] | diggthis: | Is there a setting anywhere in mythtv to set the default channel brightness, contrast, etc? |
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| [00:08:00] | dmz: | doh, i'm surprised it didn't work before |
| [00:09:00] | topping: | fix it? |
| [00:09:00] | dmz: | ok setting up stuff now, i'll let y'all know if it works :) |
| [00:09:00] | dmz: | well it is properly setup now, no idea if it works yet :) |
| [00:09:00] | topping: | hehe |
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| [00:14:00] | sthacher: | hi I looked through the mailing list archive I could find some that where close tried the fixes that they used still with no luck I'm getting a FATAL: Error inserting ivtv (/lib/modules/2.6.12–1.1398_FC4/updates/drivers/media/video/ivtv.ko): Invalid module format |
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| [00:15:00] | sthacher: | I'm going by the wilsonet guide not sure what I am doing wrong |
| [00:17:00] | sthacher: | any advice? |
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| [00:18:00] | mchou: | I found a dead raptor (west nile) while walking my dog. |
| [00:18:00] | cosmo__: | is it possible to make transcode hold its jobs until off-hours? Mythtv documentation seems to suggest that its only possible to run commerical flagging manually, but not re-encoding |
| [00:19:00] | xris: | cosmo__: huh? press X while watching, and it'll start a transcode |
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| [00:19:00] | xris: | by why's it matter. mythtranscode (you sure you want to do that, anyway?) runs at like nice -20 |
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| [00:24:00] | sthacher: | anyone? |
| [00:24:00] | dmz: | it doesn't appear to be working. i'm rebooting to be 100% sure. |
| [00:30:00] | sthacher: | yum is telling me that there isnt a ivtv-kmdl-$KVER to istall but apt-get tells me that I have the curent version to install |
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| [00:33:00] | dmz: | ok, so i can record & play back, but it won't view on the screen if I "watch tv" or try to watch a dvd. i'm guessing it's something to do with the frame buffer output |
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| [00:36:00] | dmz: | what would cause the backend to die and not start giving errors of not being able to connect to database (but a reboot fixes it)? |
| [00:38:00] | Agrajag-: | i would say that error points to it not being able to connect to the database.. |
| [00:39:00] | dmz: | i can manually connect to it |
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| [00:45:00] | jobi: | hi all |
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| [00:48:00] | mejo: | hi |
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| [00:51:00] | Esotericisms: | so anyone have issues with choppy/slow playback from remote playback systems? |
| [00:55:00] | topping: | Esotericisms: i do |
| [00:55:00] | topping: | mac mini has probs |
| [00:56:00] | xris: | topping: osx mythfrontend has issues |
| [00:56:00] | xris: | Esotericisms: what speed network, what bitrate recordings? |
| [00:57:00] | Freud^: | topping, what type of probs are you encountering ? |
| [00:59:00] | dmz: | ok, so it can record and work the tuner ok (although last recording i tested lost sound), but i can't just "watch tv" |
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| [01:04:00] | xris: | Beirdo: you have a link to the info about the bbc streams? |
| [01:04:00] | xris: | (and ever hear of anyone making a myth plugin for it?) |
| [01:07:00] | Beirdo: | umm, it's off bbc.co.uk |
| [01:07:00] | Beirdo: | but I haven't heard of a plugin, no |
| [01:07:00] | xris: | they're .rm, right? |
| [01:07:00] | Beirdo: | I believe so |
| [01:08:00] | Beirdo: | there maybe a .wma version too, but I remember .rm |
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| [01:11:00] | JazHambo: | Hi folks. Anyone here have experience getting the winischhofer sis driver to work? |
| [01:14:00] | kevin_: | does anyone know who kalvan is? he asked me to change my nickname |
| [01:14:00] | Beirdo: | where? |
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| [01:16:00] | kevin_: | not sure. either here or mandriva |
| [01:17:00] | Beirdo: | well, your nick is almost the same as his |
| [01:17:00] | Beirdo: | if he has it registered with the _, he can kick you off |
| [01:17:00] | kevin_: | yeah is it possible that i stole his? |
| [01:17:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [01:17:00] | kevin_: | ahhh |
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| [01:17:00] | Beirdo: | someone has kevin_ registered |
| [01:18:00] | Beirdo: | if it's you, ignore him ;) |
| [01:19:00] | juski: | guess what you don't do if you're not 100% sure you're logged into the right machine? |
| [01:19:00] | juski: | emerge --unmerge mythtv |
| [01:19:00] | dmz: | where do i modify settings of where master server is for a 2ndary frontend? |
| [01:20:00] | juski: | don't you just hate newbies like me? lol |
| [01:20:00] | xris: | dmz: mythtv-setup? |
| [01:20:00] | dmz: | xris isn't that part of the backend? |
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| [01:20:00] | xris: | no, that's the setup for any mythbox. |
| [01:21:00] | blkbearnh: | Evening all, can someone give me a hand with a channel tuning question? |
| [01:21:00] | kevin_: | hmm i don't imagine i'd want someone stealing my name. i'll change it soon |
| [01:21:00] | dmz: | where would it store it though? |
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| [01:21:00] | dmz: | oh wait...in database... |
| [01:21:00] | xris: | dmz: in the database |
| [01:21:00] | juski: | maybe. I'm waiting for 2 copies of mythtv to compile... so I have time on my hands, blkbearnh |
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| [01:22:00] | blkbearnh: | Thanks juski. I've got Hauppauge 250s, so xawtv doesn't work for me (seg fault). I've got a few badly out-of-freq channels (thanks Comcast), and can't figure out a way to get finetune parameters for them |
| [01:23:00] | juski: | blkbearnh... tvtime? |
| [01:24:00] | juski: | or else it'll be a case of run mythtv-setup... go back into the frontend... back into mythtv-setup.... |
| [01:24:00] | juski: | or you could alter the database by hand I guess... then change away from the channel you just adjusted & change back to it |
| [01:25:00] | blkbearnh: | I'll give it a try. Also, any idea why the preview windows for the shows has really funked-up color maps? |
| [01:25:00] | juski: | strange how there's no OSD fine-tuning.. |
| [01:25:00] | blkbearnh: | What are reasonable values to change in the finetune values (how much should I change at a time?) |
| [01:25:00] | juski: | experiment ;) |
| [01:25:00] | juski: | (I don't know) |
| [01:26:00] | blkbearnh: | Yah, that's what I thought |
| [01:26:00] | juski: | you running 0.18, blkbearnh? |
| [01:26:00] | blkbearnh: | Yep |
| [01:26:00] | juski: | I think you need 0.18.2 to fix that |
| [01:27:00] | blkbearnh: | Ok, I'll check that too. I got what Gentoo emerged |
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| [01:27:00] | juski: | maybe it's not marked as 'stable' yet so you might need to unmask it |
| [01:27:00] | blkbearnh: | Or just live with it, assuming I can get WinMyth to run |
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| [01:28:00] | juski: | 0.18.1-r2 is the one you need |
| [01:28:00] | blkbearnh: | Thanks! |
| [01:28:00] | juski: | eew WinMyth? |
| [01:28:00] | blkbearnh: | Hey, my box with the big screen is a Windows box, mea culpa |
| [01:28:00] | cochi: | WinMyth = ouch |
| [01:28:00] | juski: | no offence to the guys who are working on it, but it sucks big-style |
| [01:28:00] | blkbearnh: | I suppose I could just watch the vids via Media Player and control programming with mythweb |
| [01:29:00] | topping: | juski: if it gets more people onto linux and native myth, isn't that a good thing? |
| [01:29:00] | juski: | I can see how WinMyth would get people into Linux ;) |
| [01:29:00] | topping: | my old roomie is like that |
| [01:29:00] | blkbearnh: | It does in the sense that the media server runs Linux |
| [01:30:00] | juski: | it's a good idea |
| [01:30:00] | topping: | he wants to learn linux, but not that bad... yet |
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| [01:30:00] | juski: | but I've never been able to get it to run for more than 5 minutes at a time |
| [01:30:00] | topping: | this is the kind of thing that gets him started |
| [01:30:00] | topping: | true dat |
| [01:30:00] | juski: | I'm still with Windows on my desktop – need it for video editing |
| [01:30:00] | topping: | get a mac |
| [01:30:00] | topping: | lol |
| [01:30:00] | juski: | hahaha |
| [01:30:00] | topping: | that's what i did |
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| [01:31:00] | juski: | yeh well I'm not well paid enough to buy a Mac |
| [01:31:00] | topping: | haha, me neither. thank $DEITY for credit cards |
| [01:31:00] | juski: | bah credit cards :-( |
| [01:31:00] | kevin_: | hmm is it normal that a recorder half hour show is over a gig on the disk? |
| [01:31:00] | kevin_: | recorded* |
| [01:31:00] | juski: | if the bitrate is way high, yes kevin_ |
| [01:33:00] | juski: | don't worry about that.. 500GB disks will be here soon ;-) |
| [01:34:00] | topping: | kevin_: set automatic transcoding after the show |
| [01:34:00] | Krazylegz: | Pffft. I'm not buying a .5TB disk. Terabytes are the tools of the DEVIL!! |
| [01:34:00] | topping: | kevin_: are you using a hauppauge card? |
| [01:35:00] | juski: | anyway I think more Window$ users are venturing into mythtv, judging by some posts I've seen on the mailing lists & forums... |
| [01:35:00] | dougl: | ok, I modprobed all the stuff successfully... err how can I check my dvb card to see if it is working? |
| [01:35:00] | kevin_: | aver 179.... same as the hauppauge 250 i'm told |
| [01:36:00] | kevin_: | i'll play with transcoding, thanks |
| [01:36:00] | topping: | kevin_: that stores the video as mpeg2, which is what the hardware on the card creates |
| [01:36:00] | kormoc: | topping, yes, it does |
| [01:36:00] | kormoc: | kevin_, what kernel are you using? |
| [01:36:00] | juski: | dougl... go to http://www.ethics-gradient.net/myth/mythdvb.html |
| [01:37:00] | juski: | dougl – you'll get some good pointers there |
| [01:37:00] | topping: | kevin_: if your codec is not real time for the particular speed of your CPU, you would want batched transcoding because it would be impossible to do so live. this is a good way to avoid such pitfalls on a general basis |
| [01:40:00] | kevin_: | i'm using the 2.6.11.12 and an athlon xp1700 |
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| [01:40:00] | topping: | my point being... what if you were using a 500mhz celeron? see what i mean? |
| [01:40:00] | kevin_: | yeah, i don't really have a feel for whats enough and whats not enough |
| [01:41:00] | topping: | well, they wanted to make everything as usable as possible |
| [01:41:00] | topping: | it often doesn't matter if a transcode takes several hours, since you don't often watch the show immediately |
| [01:41:00] | topping: | and if you do, you can watch the raw feed |
| [01:42:00] | topping: | which is presumably higher quality anyway |
| [01:42:00] | dougl: | juski: thanks |
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| [01:45:00] | korozion: | slePP you here? |
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| [01:46:00] | keith: | hmmm im trying to set up the controller with lircrc and irxevent- |
| [01:46:00] | keith: | to do mute its \, so whats the config line? |
| [01:46:00] | keith: | config = Key Backslash CurrentWindow doesn't really work |
| [01:46:00] | keith: | nor does plain old / |
| [01:46:00] | keith: | i mean \ |
| [01:46:00] | juski: | you don't need irxevent for mythtv, keith |
| [01:46:00] | kormoc: | keith, what version of ivtv? what tuner.ko are you using? |
| [01:47:00] | blkbearnh: | Well, tvtime is evidently also not compatible with ivtv... sigh |
| [01:47:00] | keith: | juski- it runs better with irxevent for me |
| [01:47:00] | keith: | and i have no clue |
| [01:48:00] | keith: | i just wanat to know what to do for irxevent cause just plain using ~/.mythtv/lircrc caused the screen to blank out if you use the remote for more than 3 seconds |
| [01:48:00] | dmz: | hmm i've lost sound :( |
| [01:48:00] | keith: | but with irxevent i have no problem |
| [01:48:00] | juski: | you just need a lircrc file in ~/.mythtv/ |
| [01:49:00] | keith: | i did, but it screws up when i use the remote- the remote works, but the screen will blank out |
| [01:49:00] | keith: | so i use irxevent instead |
| [01:49:00] | keith: | hence my asking about irxevent |
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| [01:53:00] | juski: | keith: what card/remote are you using? |
| [01:55:00] | keith: | pvr-150 happuage, the remote that came with it and their IR sensors |
| [01:55:00] | kormoc: | keith, you see, I have the same card as you do, and I can't get it working :/ |
| [01:55:00] | keith: | i got it workin |
| [01:55:00] | keith: | kormoc, cant get the ir sensor working eh? |
| [01:55:00] | keith: | whisper me ill walk you through it |
| [01:55:00] | kormoc: | keith, no, I can't get the tuner working |
| [01:55:00] | keith: | oh |
| [01:56:00] | kormoc: | :P |
| [01:56:00] | keith: | sorry :-( i know the nightmare that can be |
| [01:56:00] | keith: | if i had more time id try to help |
| [01:56:00] | kormoc: | tis okay |
| [01:56:00] | dmz: | nothing like a good reboot to fix sound |
| [01:56:00] | kormoc: | if you could just tell me which version of ivtv you are using and what options you are passing it and which tuner.ko you are using, that'd be a grand help :) |
| [01:57:00] | keith: | i think i know something that iwll help you kormoc more than i can |
| [01:57:00] | diggthis: | hey is there anyway to save what i have in buffer? |
| [01:58:00] | keith: | wouldnt hitting record just take what you have in buffer as well? |
| [01:59:00] | juski: | all these folks still using live TV... I dunno... |
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| [02:00:00] | keith: | occasionaly i happen to be in the room when i wanna watch something juski..... |
| [02:00:00] | JazHambo: | Anyone here have experience getting the winischhofer sis driver to work? |
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| [02:01:00] | diggthis: | the guy on jepardy is a compsci/cpe major and he just bid $1337 in final jeopardy and won |
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| [02:01:00] | swim: | hi folks |
| [02:02:00] | swim: | is it just me or is something wrong with installing mythtv on debian? |
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| [02:02:00] | JazHambo: | Anyone know a good channel for video driver related questions? |
| [02:02:00] | juski: | JazHambo... V4L ? |
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| [02:04:00] | JazHambo: | juski: I'm getting choppy video on playback and I believe I've traced the problem to the fact that I don't have xvideo running. So I found for my card I think I need winischhofer's sis driver, but I can't figure out how to get it working. It's just a little beyond me |
| [02:05:00] | dmz: | swim i've been fighting it for 4 days now and just got recording/playback working (still no direct tv or dvd viewing, and mythweb won't let me do htauth entries) |
| [02:05:00] | dmz: | jazhambo you have dma enabled for your media right? |
| [02:05:00] | swim: | dmz, but installation went fine? |
| [02:05:00] | dmz: | swim, installation is different from configuration :) |
| [02:06:00] | swim: | yes, well Im unable to install... |
| [02:06:00] | JazHambo: | dmz: yah dma is enabled |
| [02:06:00] | juski: | hmmm onboard SiS video I bet |
| [02:06:00] | JazHambo: | swim: have you considered knoppmyth? |
| [02:07:00] | swim: | JazHambo, Ive used it and wasnt amazingly fond of the performance, but Im considering it again now |
| [02:07:00] | JazHambo: | juski: exactly onboard sis. I'm paying for being cheap I guess |
| [02:07:00] | juski: | Splurge $25 on a Nvidia card |
| [02:08:00] | juski: | if the board has AGP that is |
| [02:08:00] | swim: | hehe |
| [02:09:00] | JazHambo: | juski: is it gonna be easy to tell from the box or is this gonna be one of those deals where I have to look at the damn FCC ID to find out if I've got the right thing? I must have gone through about 4 wireless cards before I found one that actually had open source drivers |
| [02:09:00] | juski: | you just need something like a Nvidia-based FX5200 |
| [02:10:00] | kevin_: | nvidia mx 440 works well for me. you can find those for about 20 dollars or so |
| [02:10:00] | JazHambo: | juski: what are the chances that if I buy one of those, pop it in, plug my monitor into it and reboot it'll work right off the bat? |
| [02:10:00] | juski: | I was using an XFX MX4000 card for a while before I got my EPIA motherboard – TV out quality was sweet and CPU usage was very low playing back MPEG2 |
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| [02:11:00] | juski: | JazHambo – slim to none if you don't install the nvidia kernel drivers and get mythtv to have XvMC support |
| [02:11:00] | kevin_: | jazhambo slim to none |
| [02:11:00] | kevin_: | haha |
| [02:11:00] | dmz: | ok, so recording & playback is great; just can't watch tv or watch a dvd (doesn't seem to display anything, watching tv blanks screen but doesn't show anything, and watching dvd fires off mplayer but it never attaches to display??)?? |
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| [02:12:00] | JazHambo: | How about if I re-install knoppmyth from scratch? Chances better then right? |
| [02:12:00] | juski: | "grr is that compiler not finished yet?!" |
| [02:12:00] | juski: | if knoppmyth has nvidia drivers & xvmc enabled, yes |
| [02:12:00] | juski: | the nvidia drivers only take a few minutes to install |
| [02:13:00] | juski: | and mythtv isn't too bad to compile with xvmc support |
| [02:13:00] | fatmatt: | anyone know how I pass an nvtv option to a screen (ie my tv out) from an ssh session? |
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| [02:15:00] | dmz: | i am getting a lot of prebuffering pauses on a remote mythfrontend |
| [02:15:00] | dmz: | every 4 seconds |
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| [02:15:00] | dmz: | 100M connection between mythtv server & this box. how can I increase buffer? (1Gig of ram on both sides) |
| [02:16:00] | trans_err: | can anyone shoot me a suggestion for a cheap/simple/well supported capture card? |
| [02:16:00] | JazHambo: | Well I guess the problem is really that I don't know much about drivers in linux in general. I got a deb package for the sis drivers and ran a program that I though was supposed to "install" the driver, but as far as I can tell it didn't actually do anything except download the driver and un-tgz it. There's got to be something put into XF86Config-4 to make it work... right? |
| [02:16:00] | fatmatt: | dmz isn't there a buffer setting in one of the setup screens, |
| [02:17:00] | juski: | JazHambo: http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsisvga.shtml |
| [02:17:00] | trans_err: | anyone :C |
| [02:18:00] | dmz: | is there? |
| [02:19:00] | fatmatt: | yah, are you able to edit the database directly or do you go through the setup? |
| [02:19:00] | swim: | how is knoppmyth as a full desktop distro as well as a myth box distro? |
| [02:19:00] | dmz: | i can edit database. is it in the setup table? |
| [02:19:00] | juski: | trans_err... talk about the most asked question... it all depends on what your definitions of 'cheap' and 'simple' are |
| [02:19:00] | JazHambo: | juski: yah I've been puzzling over that for days... But I just noticed something after reading the 19th time... hmmm time to go fiddle |
| [02:20:00] | fatmatt: | yeah, think its buffersize, looks like its a per-host config |
| [02:20:00] | fatmatt: | settings table |
| [02:20:00] | juski: | JazHambo – that page is a tad mind-boggling |
| [02:20:00] | topping: | trans_err: get a pvr-150 |
| [02:20:00] | fatmatt: | BufferSize 6 |
| [02:20:00] | trans_err: | juski: something barebones to capture cable-- something I wont have to screw with much-- I'd google some more but my internet connection is pretty horrid lately (stealing from a neighbor until adelphia can get their stuff together) |
| [02:20:00] | dmz: | it is 20, is that # of seconds? |
| [02:20:00] | fatmatt: | although, that may be for live tv... |
| [02:20:00] | fatmatt: | nahh, thats 6gig |
| [02:21:00] | dmz: | ahh |
| [02:21:00] | juski: | trans_err... a lot of people have had success with the PVR150 card but it might not be for the faint-hearted |
| [02:21:00] | dmz: | well i'm getting playback prebuffering pauses on a remote frontend |
| [02:21:00] | juski: | infact no vid capture in Linux is for the faint hearted ;) |
| [02:21:00] | fatmatt: | hmmm, scratch that then |
| [02:21:00] | dmz: | that is the live recording buffer |
| [02:21:00] | topping: | mythtv is not for the faint hearted lol |
| [02:22:00] | topping: | but you learn a lot, and that's half the fun |
| [02:22:00] | dmz: | so any thoughts on where i can control a frontend buffer size? |
| [02:22:00] | juski: | "here be dragons" |
| [02:22:00] | fatmatt: | how the hell do I send a command to a different session, |
| [02:22:00] | trans_err: | juski: I'm familair enough-- as long as it does work and well-- I'll get it setup |
| [02:22:00] | juski: | fatmatt – I saw that once somewhere – damned if I can remember where though – would be handy |
| [02:22:00] | trans_err: | I seem to remember a linux specific capture card on /. at some point--- anyone remember? |
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| [02:23:00] | fatmatt: | trying to do everything on a remote frontend without a keyboard is not simple |
| [02:23:00] | juski: | think it's one of the X server commands, fatmatt |
| [02:23:00] | juski: | you could always run vncserver, fatmatt ;) |
| [02:25:00] | fatmatt: | I need to play around with the tv-out display size |
| [02:26:00] | juski: | er...hook up a keyboard for a while ??? |
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| [02:26:00] | juski: | ahem |
| [02:26:00] | fatmatt: | I can't even get it to show the right screen size atm, |
| [02:27:00] | fatmatt: | and every time I punch in the wrong config it blanks, thus a reboot |
| [02:27:00] | juski: | can you not use nvidia-settings? or is the card too old for that? |
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| [02:28:00] | fatmatt: | juski: is that the graphical config for nvidia? |
| [02:28:00] | juski: | yep |
| [02:28:00] | juski: | they have a slider for the amount of overscan |
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| [02:29:00] | fatmatt: | might try it again see if I can get a workable config screen, thanks |
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| [02:34:00] | JazHambo: | juski: WOOT! One beer, one XF86Config-4 line edit, and one startx later and my choppy video problems are history. |
| [02:35:00] | JazHambo: | Turned out all I had to do was change driver "vesa" to driver "sis" |
| [02:35:00] | juski: | wicked! lol |
| [02:35:00] | juski: | with linux, the devil is in the detail |
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| [02:36:00] | JazHambo: | You bet. Thanks for getting me to look at that website one more time. Now time to get the remote working |
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| [02:40:00] | blkbearnh: | Back again |
| [02:40:00] | dmz: | hmm prebuffering pause may be because remote screen size is a bad size for playback....hmmm |
| [02:40:00] | blkbearnh: | So I know the exact freq for my badly tuned channel now, and that it's 1300 hz off the base channel setting. How do I use the finetune field in the db? |
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| [02:41:00] | blkbearnh: | Actually, it's 1300 of whatever ptune-ui reports, probably khz |
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| [02:45:00] | juski: | blkbearnh – no idea :-( |
| [02:45:00] | juski: | so I just compiled the latest svn of mythtv... |
| [02:46:00] | juski: | did 'make'... and it said 'nothing to be done for 'all'' |
| [02:46:00] | Krazylegz: | Did you configure first? |
| [02:46:00] | juski: | yep |
| [02:46:00] | Krazylegz: | Did that go okay? |
| [02:46:00] | juski: | all my env variables were right |
| [02:46:00] | Freud^: | juski, make distclean ? |
| [02:46:00] | juski: | no errors during compile – odd warnings – nothing unusual there |
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| [02:47:00] | Freud^: | hmm, you compiled and make failed ? |
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| [02:47:00] | Freud^: | doesnt seem to make sense to me |
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| [02:50:00] | juski: | did ./configure --enable-xvmc |
| [02:50:00] | juski: | then qmake mythtv.pro |
| [02:50:00] | juski: | then make |
| [02:50:00] | juski: | as documented |
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| [02:53:00] | topping: | anyone have experience with an operational IR blaster? should I be able to see the thing blinking? |
| [02:54:00] | blkbearnh: | Nope, it's IR |
| [02:54:00] | topping: | figure maybe the glue-on piece has a visible light diode in there as well? |
| [02:54:00] | juski: | maybe with a CCD camera you should be able to |
| [02:54:00] | topping: | strange |
| [02:54:00] | blkbearnh: | Just like your remote control |
| [02:54:00] | topping: | wish i had one around |
| [02:54:00] | juski: | phone camera, digital camera... |
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| [02:56:00] | juski: | this compiling business... I downloaded the source to a directory called /downloads ... would it work okay from there? |
| [02:56:00] | topping: | ah phone cam |
| [02:56:00] | topping: | thx juski |
| [02:56:00] | juski: | yw, topping |
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| [03:00:00] | xris: | Beirdo: well, now comes the fun of sifting through resumes... my next minion position just went live on craigslist |
| [03:00:00] | Beirdo: | woohoo |
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| [03:01:00] | vicodan: | anyone getting Internal Server Error while trying to run mythfilldatabase? |
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| [03:04:00] | juski: | ah toheck with this I'm off to bed |
| [03:04:00] | juski: | I'll find out how to compile myth from source another time |
| [03:04:00] | juski: | night all |
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| [03:11:00] | Krazylegz: | Hmm, I keep getting the error message, "dereferencing pointer to incomplete type", always when compiling vlc, but with different packages. |
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| [03:12:00] | Krazylegz: | I tried to modify my configure to avoid one problem, and then I get the same message with another part. |
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| [03:13:00] | topping: | Beirdo: whatcha hiring for? |
| [03:14:00] | xris: | topping: I am |
| [03:14:00] | topping: | myth stuff? |
| [03:15:00] | xris: | not really |
| [03:15:00] | xris: | http://www.siliconmechanics.com/i3290/careers/php-developer.php |
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| [03:16:00] | topping: | lots of PHP going on these days |
| [03:17:00] | xris: | better than asp |
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| [03:17:00] | topping: | heh, is that saying much? :-) |
| [03:17:00] | xris: | I like it. easy language to use. |
| [03:17:00] | topping: | it seems to be a good balance like that |
| [03:17:00] | xris: | though I'm running into more of its shortcomings lately. |
| [03:17:00] | xris: | I want perl6 |
| [03:17:00] | xris: | then I'll be happy |
| [03:18:00] | Krazylegz: | xris: Still using PHP4? |
| [03:18:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: of course |
| [03:18:00] | Krazylegz: | Same here. |
| [03:19:00] | xris: | php5 is FAR from stable. |
| [03:19:00] | xris: | (granted, it's further along than perl5) |
| [03:19:00] | xris: | er, perl6 |
| [03:19:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah. |
| [03:19:00] | xris: | but from an industry standpoint, we're far ahead of the game. I mean, amazon.com just upgraded to redhat 7.3 a couple of months ago. |
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| [03:22:00] | topping: | wow, i hadn't heard that fact |
| [03:22:00] | xris: | topping: I work with an ex-amazon engineer |
| [03:22:00] | topping: | because it's taken them this long to certify it? |
| [03:22:00] | xris: | but yes. about 2 years to certify. |
| [03:23:00] | xris: | but keep in mind that they run some MAJORLY custom stuff... custom kernel, etc. |
| [03:23:00] | topping: | ah i didn't know that |
| [03:23:00] | xris: | the whole system runs on one single 500M (or so) binary that is apparently nearly impossible to get to compile unless you know exactly what you're doing. |
| [03:24:00] | topping: | fastcgi? |
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| [03:24:00] | xris: | topping: no. ONE binary. no cgi, no nothing.. |
| [03:24:00] | xris: | no apache, etc. |
| [03:25:00] | topping: | there's a library for C called FastCGI. but i see what you are saying now |
| [03:25:00] | xris: | fastcgi uses apache, though. |
| [03:25:00] | topping: | right |
| [03:25:00] | xris: | but no, they have one single 500 megabyte binary that runs everything. |
| [03:25:00] | topping: | very interesting |
| [03:26:00] | topping: | they should write their own kernel and get it over with |
| [03:28:00] | JazHambo: | Hey folks. So I'm getting little jumps while watching livetv. I don't get the jumps when I'm watching a recorded program. The jumps happen about every 3 seconds and I hear a little glitch in the audio too. I'm running a 1.2 GHz AMD with 256 megs RAM and using a Haupauge PVR250 for capture. CPU is at about 30% while watching liveTV and RAM usage is about 135 of 256 megs. Any ideas what the prob is? |
| [03:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | DMA not enabled on the drive? |
| [03:30:00] | xris: | topping: as I understand it, they're close to that, given the amount of tweaks that they put into the kernel they use. |
| [03:30:00] | JazHambo: | DMA is enabled |
| [03:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | Any odd messages in dmesg ? |
| [03:33:00] | JazHambo: | GreyFoxx: what should I be looking for? |
| [03:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | Anything that looks like a recurring error ?:) |
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| [03:37:00] | ** NightBird takes his shirt off ** | |
| [03:37:00] | cosmo__: | wouldn't dma be a problem with recorded media, and not live? |
| [03:37:00] | NightBird: | it's time to build me a computer |
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| [03:37:00] | JazHambo: | saa7115: decoder set picture bright=127 contrast=63 saturation=63 hue=0 |
| [03:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | cosmo__: No, LiveTV is encoded, written to disk, and then readback/decompressed |
| [03:38:00] | JazHambo: | saa7115: decoder disable output |
| [03:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | so it;s more disintensive than a regular recording |
| [03:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | disk intensive |
| [03:38:00] | JazHambo: | saa7115: decoder disable output |
| [03:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | JazHambo: Those are regular ivtv related messages |
| [03:38:00] | JazHambo: | I'm seeing a lot of those in a row but probably just becuase I keep going back and forth between watching tv and IRC :) |
| [03:38:00] | JazHambo: | tag |
| [03:38:00] | JazHambo: | yah |
| [03:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | You could always try running mythfrontend with -v playback and see if anything is written the screen when the skips occur. But I should warning you, a TON of stuff gets echo'd out |
| [03:39:00] | JazHambo: | GreyFoxx: Maybe I just need a little more ram? |
| [03:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nah, that's be plenty |
| [03:40:00] | JazHambo: | Ah I think I'll try that, -v |
| [03:40:00] | topping: | hmm, anyone know if hauppauge uses a less common frequency for their IR remote? |
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| [03:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | cosmo__: The video is written to disk allowing you to pause/rewind live tv |
| [03:42:00] | cosmo__: | oh, I see |
| [03:42:00] | JazHambo: | ran mythfrontend -v playback and it exited with a segmentation fault |
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| [03:50:00] | fatmatt: | anyone using a while loop to keep mythfrontend up? |
| [03:50:00] | fatmatt: | I forget the script |
| [03:51:00] | JazHambo: | Looks like I had encoding to MPEG2-TS instead of PS. PS is giving better results |
| [03:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | fatmatt: I don't but I assume you mean something like : |
| [03:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | while [1] |
| [03:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | do |
| [03:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythfrontend |
| [03:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | done |
| [03:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | ? |
| [03:53:00] | fatmatt: | that looks like it |
| [03:53:00] | fatmatt: | thanks |
| [03:53:00] | dpy: | can anyone here play ringbuf1.nuv with mplayer ? |
| [03:54:00] | dpy: | directly |
| [03:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | You mean while livetv is recording ? |
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| [03:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sure you can, gonna have problems when you hit the end of the buffer though, since mplayer wont know to "loop" around |
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| [03:55:00] | dpy: | well it doesn't work here |
| [03:55:00] | dpy: | how do I play it |
| [03:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | What kind of captue card ? |
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| [03:56:00] | keith: | how come when watching live tv or watching a recording i cant adjust the brightness? |
| [03:56:00] | keith: | or contrast? |
| [03:57:00] | dpy: | philips saa7134 |
| [03:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | dpy, So you are using software encoding to either rtjpeg or mpeg4 ? |
| [03:58:00] | dpy: | yes |
| [03:58:00] | dpy: | mpeg4 software |
| [03:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | you might need to patch mplayer then |
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| [03:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | Since I believe myth uses a slightly different format .nuv than mplayer expects. I know there is a patch out there for it |
| [03:58:00] | dpy: | why aren't these patches in mplayer then ? |
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| [03:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | no idea. I think someone mentioned that the mplayer people didn't like something about the patch. But it's not an issue for me so I don't pay a lot of attention to it |
| [03:59:00] | NightBird: | hey, all video comeing out of a pvr 150 is delayed by 2 seconds, right? |
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| [04:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | NightBird: Well, there is a delay, but most of that delay is from buffering |
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| [04:00:00] | keith: | 3 i think NightBird |
| [04:00:00] | keith: | at least on mine |
| [04:00:00] | NightBird: | GreyFoxx, would it be noticible for a video game? |
| [04:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | The card is like half a second behind, if that. the rest is myth buffering |
| [04:00:00] | keith: | you're capturing a video game or playing it on the mythbox? |
| [04:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | Night, it would make a game unplayable |
| [04:01:00] | NightBird: | heh |
| [04:01:00] | NightBird: | so the game should come after myth |
| [04:01:00] | NightBird: | gotcha |
| [04:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | There is a way to get live, unencoded video from those cards, but it's not supported by any software really |
| [04:02:00] | NightBird: | thats fine |
| [04:02:00] | NightBird: | I just wanted a confirmation of that |
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| [04:07:00] | topping: | NightBird: i've noticed the delay on mplayer < /dev/video0 grows over time |
| [04:08:00] | topping: | or are you using myth without mplayer? |
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| [04:27:00] | topping: | well, I got the IR transmitter working on the PVR-150, but it doesn't seem to send sufficient codes to my set-top box to power cycle it as it should. |
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| [04:35:00] | dmz: | nice 8% cpu for encoding :) |
| [04:35:00] | topping: | haha http://www.gizmodo.com/archives/hello-kitty-headlamps-015334.php |
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| [04:41:00] | psm321: | hi |
| [04:42:00] | psm321: | i used to be able to scroll around in the program guide with 1,7,3,9 but i can't anymore (it just jumps to those channels)... i can't figure out what i changed (havent updated mythtv)... any ideas? |
| [04:42:00] | NightBird: | hm... question, the old style of ide cable... which side is right? I know on one side, there are indents(where as more modern ones are missing a pin and has the little bump out... |
| [04:44:00] | psm321: | theres no bump? |
| [04:44:00] | psm321: | all the ide cables i've seen have the bump (tho not necessarily the missing pin) |
| [04:44:00] | NightBird: | yeah... like I said, it's older... |
| [04:45:00] | NightBird: | it has one of them colored... |
| [04:45:00] | psm321: | i think as a general rule pin 1 (red stripe) goes towards the power connector, but no promises |
| [04:45:00] | psm321: | or some color (not always red) |
| [04:46:00] | psm321: | you might be able to find a label for pin 1 on the device |
| [04:47:00] | NightBird: | ok |
| [04:48:00] | topping: | pin one is always toward the power on drives |
| [04:48:00] | topping: | at least, i've never seen it different than that |
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| [04:52:00] | rhstech: | I'm having problems seeing the TV through TV out. On the computer monitor it works, I can see video, but on the TV all I get is a blue screen with a mouse cursor. Anyone have any ideas? |
| [04:52:00] | rhstech: | Hauppauge WinTV Go Plus capture card and NVIDIA MX4000 video card |
| [04:53:00] | adante: | just fyi the p1 to power rule does not hold for floppies (if anyone uses them nowadays) |
| [04:53:00] | rhstech: | I noticed that xavtv does the same thing when in grabdisplay mode, but works fine in overlay mode |
| [04:54:00] | psm321: | rhstech: r u sure? i wouldve expected the opposite (works w/ grabdisplay but not overlay) |
| [04:55:00] | korozion: | bbl |
| [04:55:00] | adante: | rhstech: you can fix that by either making the tv out the primary display (then the blue will appear on monitor) or (iirc) disabling xv |
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| [04:55:00] | rhstech: | Yeah, positive that's what happens |
| [04:55:00] | rhstech: | adante: how do I do either of those? |
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| [04:56:00] | adante: | rhstech: to disable xv, somewhere in mythfrontend->setup; for tv-out primary, edit your x config |
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| [04:56:00] | rhstech: | Thanks, I'll give that a stry |
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| [04:57:00] | rhstech: | try |
| [04:57:00] | psm321: | btw, never mind about my question... i got it |
| [04:57:00] | adante: | for nvidia i think you'd look at changing a line to ConnectedMonitor "TV, CRT" (as opposed to CRT,TV) |
| [04:57:00] | adante: | but it's been a while so don't quote me on that |
| [04:58:00] | adante: | unless you do have a real need for video on both screens i'd suggest not disabling xv |
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| [05:02:00] | rhstech: | Yeah, I don't care for video on the monitor |
| [05:02:00] | rhstech: | I just want it on the TV |
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| [05:07:00] | rhstech: | adante: X tells me in the log: NV(0): Option ConnectedMonitor" is not used |
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| [05:08:00] | Agrajag-: | are you using the nv or nvidia module? |
| [05:09:00] | rhstech: | nv I believe |
| [05:09:00] | Agrajag-: | im pretty sure you need the (non free) nvidia one |
| [05:09:00] | rhstech: | grr |
| [05:10:00] | Agrajag-: | here's my XF86Config for doing 2 X screens, one on tv and one on monitor: http://home.whatsbeef.net:1339/~filip/XF86Config-4 |
| [05:10:00] | Agrajag-: | works well. but yeah i dont think the free nv driver does tv out |
| [05:14:00] | rhstech: | I get tvout just fine |
| [05:14:00] | rhstech: | With X, xine, myth, etc |
| [05:14:00] | rhstech: | Just not the mythtv Module |
| [05:14:00] | rhstech: | Monitor has video, TV has blue |
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| [05:16:00] | Krazylegz: | I think I'll save mythstreamtv for my Gentoo setup. |
| [05:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythstreamtv was suprisingly easy to setup |
| [05:16:00] | adante: | you run mplayer/xine on the tv and it plays fine? |
| [05:16:00] | rhstech: | Yep, it does |
| [05:17:00] | rhstech: | xawtv works fine too (in overlay mode, not grabdisplay) |
| [05:17:00] | rhstech: | grabdisplay does the same thing mythtv does |
| [05:17:00] | jasoncohen: | GreyFoxx, what's the URL for the ati_remote.c niveus driver again? |
| [05:17:00] | Krazylegz: | GreyFoxx: I think my problems lie with vlc and ffmpeg. |
| [05:18:00] | Krazylegz: | But fine, I'll keep whacking at it. :-) |
| [05:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | Krazylegz: I just compiled mine using the exact ./configure lines from the mythstreamtv docs |
| [05:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | jasoncohen: www.phaze.org/mythtv/ati_remote.c |
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| [05:18:00] | jasoncohen: | thanks GreyFoxx |
| [05:18:00] | Krazylegz: | There's docs?! |
| [05:19:00] | jasoncohen: | GreyFoxx, what did you change between 2.2.3c and d? |
| [05:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | Krazylegz: In mythsteamtv archive |
| [05:19:00] | adante: | rhstech: ah well in that case, it's beyond me – dunno if what i said will help |
| [05:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | a README/INSTALL of some sort |
| [05:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | jasoncohen: I don't really remember |
| [05:19:00] | jasoncohen: | GreyFoxx, it says the driver now supports external keymaps |
| [05:20:00] | rhstech: | adante: That's ok. I'll figure it out... eventually lol |
| [05:20:00] | rhstech: | adante: Thanks a ton for your help though |
| [05:20:00] | jasoncohen: | but it's still looks like it's set from the driver |
| [05:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | jasoncohen: It's always said that |
| [05:20:00] | jasoncohen: | oh, ok |
| [05:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've jus tnever gotten around to adding it in or removing that line |
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| [05:24:00] | NightBird: | hey, how should I set up my hd for myth? any suggestions for partitions? |
| [05:25:00] | NightBird: | or should I just go ext3 for the main drive? |
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| [05:26:00] | Krazylegz: | I asked this in #unixhelp last night. I don't think ext3 is good for anything anymore. |
| [05:27:00] | NightBird: | so, uggestions? |
| [05:27:00] | NightBird: | er.. |
| [05:27:00] | NightBird: | suggestions |
| [05:27:00] | Krazylegz: | I used ReiserFS for the system portion. |
| [05:27:00] | NightBird: | I remember somewhere(don't know where) that they had 500 mb for the os, some for virtual, and the rest for video.. |
| [05:28:00] | Krazylegz: | I don't think 500MB is enough for your OS stuff. |
| [05:28:00] | NightBird: | hm... |
| [05:28:00] | Krazylegz: | KnoppMyth setup 2.2GB for that here, and I'm running out of room. |
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| [05:28:00] | Krazylegz: | That's just Myth stuff, too. |
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| [05:29:00] | NightBird: | hm... |
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| [05:30:00] | NightBird: | so just one partition of reiser? |
| [05:30:00] | NightBird: | bbiab.. |
| [05:30:00] | Krazylegz: | I guess I would do all of them in ReiserFS. |
| [05:31:00] | Krazylegz: | Maybe XFS for the /myth and /cache. If I recall correctly, XFS may deal better with the larger files? |
| [05:31:00] | Krazylegz: | I doubt you would notice on a Mythbox. |
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| [05:38:00] | topping: | anyone have ir blaster suggestions? i think i need to buy some hardware, irrecord can't hear the remote for this STB |
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| [05:43:00] | dmz: | yeah i got it all working (almost:) |
| [05:43:00] | dmz: | tv & dvd now playing, was missing a cache directory |
| [05:44:00] | dmz: | quick question, is there any way to have the dvd play out the pvr350 audio out? or do i have to loop out from dsp into audio in on pvr? |
| [05:46:00] | ananke: | is mythtv cvs closed now? or did something change recently? |
| [05:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | switched to svn a couple months ago |
| [05:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://cvs.mythtv.org more info on using svn |
| [05:47:00] | ananke: | ahh, thank you |
| [05:48:00] | ** NightBird waits as ubuntu installs and configures stuff ** | |
| [05:50:00] | Krazylegz: | NightBird: Ubuntu was too easy to install. :-) |
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| [05:52:00] | NightBird: | Krazylegz, you're saying it like thats a problem |
| [05:54:00] | Krazylegz: | I was actually bored when I installed it. |
| [05:55:00] | Krazylegz: | I thought I'd have to do something, but alas, Ubuntu didn't need my help. |
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| [05:57:00] | dmz: | hey y'all, wierd one...i started a dvd but can't seem to quit it. using mplayer. any thoughts? |
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| [06:02:00] | hadees: | if i setup a job on the frontend does it get run on the frontend or the backend? for example mythfilldatabase |
| [06:03:00] | NightBird: | I never realized how noisy my old video card is.. |
| [06:03:00] | NightBird: | I fear the fan is going bad... |
| [06:04:00] | NightBird: | (it's an old GeForce 3 ti) |
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| [06:08:00] | fangji: | hi, does anyone know if mythmusic support Chinese playlist from CDDB? |
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| [06:33:00] | moodboom: | hey all – installed my pvr-350 yesterday and i was watching tv ok – then after a reboot i try again – tv locks up after 1–2 seconds, "Remote encoder not responding", any ideas? |
| [06:33:00] | dmz: | have you done a full power off reset? |
| [06:33:00] | moodboom: | no |
| [06:34:00] | moodboom: | worth a try i take it? |
| [06:34:00] | moodboom: | will give that a try, thanks dmz! |
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| [06:39:00] | fronkonstin: | anybody out there ir-blasting a comcast HD cable box (DCT-5100)? |
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| [07:00:00] | dmz: | any pvr350 & dvd users here? if my dvd sound is coming out my audio card and my tv is going out the 350 audio out, what should I loop where to get it working? |
| [07:02:00] | Chutt: | pvr350 out -> soundcard in |
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| [07:12:00] | NightBird: | good night everyone |
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| [07:28:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: so is there gonna be a 0.18.2? |
| [07:29:00] | Cardoe: | cause svn.mythtv.org is a bit unclear about it |
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| [07:31:00] | rhstech: | I asked this question earlier, but I still haven't been able to figure it out... |
| [07:31:00] | rhstech: | In short, when I choose Watch TV, there is video on my computer monitor but not on my TV. The TV is just blue |
| [07:32:00] | rhstech: | xine and mythfrontend work fine, as does xawtv (in overlay mode, not grabdisplay) |
| [07:32:00] | rhstech: | Nvidia MX4000 with nv drivers, Hauppauge WinTV Go Plus |
| [07:32:00] | crb: | rhstech: You are saving the output to a buffer and then playing it back |
| [07:32:00] | crb: | so its nothing to do with the TV capture |
| [07:33:00] | crb: | its more to do with where you have X set up to display |
| [07:33:00] | rhstech: | How can I fix that? |
| [07:33:00] | crb: | No idea sorry. :) I think its the TV out settings |
| [07:33:00] | crb: | I only use the one output, else it doesn't display on my TV! |
| [07:33:00] | rhstech: | The TV is set as a clone of the monitor |
| [07:33:00] | rhstech: | Hmm.. I'll keep playing |
| [07:34:00] | Agrajag-: | have you tried the nvidia driver yet? |
| [07:35:00] | Agrajag-: | then you could do use twinview, i have an idea that might work nicer for you |
| [07:35:00] | rhstech: | Well, I don't need video on the monitor at all. Just on the TV |
| [07:35:00] | rhstech: | I'll try the nvidia driver now though |
| [07:36:00] | Agrajag-: | ah ok |
| [07:37:00] | rhstech: | I just unplugged my monitor and reloaded X – now nothing displays on the TV |
| [07:37:00] | rhstech: | I guess my problem is my XF86Config file is just confusing as hell to work with |
| [07:37:00] | rhstech: | Any changes I make cause X not to load lol |
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| [07:40:00] | CCFL_Man: | anyone run mythtv on an xbox? |
| [07:40:00] | crb: | So. Anyone played with mfd/mfe? |
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| [07:47:00] | CCFL_Man: | anyone here? :P |
| [07:48:00] | Chutt: | cardoe, if jarod gets the time, probably. |
| [07:49:00] | Chutt: | there's a couple decent bugfixes in there |
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| [08:00:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: well I'll volunteer to work on it and other stuff. |
| [08:00:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: lemme know what you need help with |
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| [08:03:00] | Krazylegz: | GreyFoxx: Are you still around? |
| [08:05:00] | Krazylegz: | Does anyone know which distro GreyFoxx was using? |
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| [08:06:00] | harryman100: | Krazylegz: he usess slackware |
| [08:06:00] | harryman100: | I think |
| [08:08:00] | Krazylegz: | Whoa. |
| [08:09:00] | Krazylegz: | Myth on Slack. Hardcore? |
| [08:09:00] | harryman100: | Krazylegz: I do the same |
| [08:09:00] | harryman100: | works well |
| [08:10:00] | Krazylegz: | I didn't have any problems with KnoppMyth until this MythstreamTV issue. |
| [08:10:00] | Krazylegz: | Unless I had issues that I already forgot about. |
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| [09:18:00] | dmz: | anyone still awake? :) do I need anything special to save dvd? the button doesn't seem to do anything when I select it |
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| [09:36:00] | pirre: | dmz: check logs? |
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| [10:09:00] | dmz: | pierre i don't get anything in the logs when i try to import |
| [10:10:00] | dmz: | do I need a trailing "/" in the destination config? |
| [10:13:00] | pirre: | dmz: I don't know, sorry |
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| [10:39:00] | riksta: | you need to have mtd running |
| [10:42:00] | mchou: | riksta: what exactly is mtd? |
| [10:42:00] | mchou: | it doesn't seem documented..... |
| [10:43:00] | travolta: | deamon |
| [10:43:00] | riksta: | myth transcode deamon |
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| [10:43:00] | mchou: | ok, never mind, it is documented :) |
| [10:43:00] | riksta: | am surprised you didnt know that one mchou :P |
| [10:44:00] | mchou: | I never transcode, really. |
| [10:44:00] | mchou: | hence why I didnt know what it was :) |
| [10:44:00] | benw: | are you made of disk space? |
| [10:44:00] | riksta: | me either |
| [10:45:00] | mchou: | benw:1.5TB baby |
| [10:45:00] | mchou: | and counting |
| [10:45:00] | benw: | heh |
| [10:45:00] | riksta: | that's nothing |
| [10:45:00] | riksta: | i got a scsi file store 2.7 |
| [10:45:00] | riksta: | TB |
| [10:46:00] | mchou: | bah. I only use 250GB of 1.5TB as we speak :) |
| [10:46:00] | travolta: | lucky bastards :b |
| [10:46:00] | riksta: | i'm just joking :P |
| [10:46:00] | riksta: | i don't really ;) |
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| [10:53:00] | dmz: | riksta was that mtd thing for my dvd import question? |
| [10:56:00] | travolta: | yea |
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| [10:57:00] | fryfrog: | If I am just using ALSA only (no OSS modules loaded), what the heck to I use as "Mixer Device" in general settings for "Audio"? |
| [10:58:00] | fryfrog: | I tried "ALSA:mixer" but that can't be right |
| [10:58:00] | travolta: | you try /dev/dsp ? |
| [10:58:00] | travolta: | err /dev/mixer |
| [10:58:00] | fryfrog: | don't exist, those are OSS items |
| [11:00:00] | dmz: | and is mtd the same as "transcode" or separate? |
| [11:00:00] | laga: | dmz: separate. |
| [11:01:00] | travolta: | mine is set to /dev/mixer now (2.4 kernel with alsa w/ oss) and can boot up in my 2.6 kernel with just alsa and it works |
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| [11:01:00] | fryfrog: | travolta: when you try and use /dev/mixer, its almost certainly loading up the OSS drivers |
| [11:01:00] | fryfrog: | travolta: though i've nothing against oss, so i'll probably just load them up |
| [11:02:00] | travolta: | i dont have oss in my 2.6 kernel |
| [11:02:00] | fryfrog: | i just thought there had to be some alsa:thing to put in |
| [11:02:00] | dmz: | hmm how come i never saw it mentioned anywhere. i'll go search some |
| [11:02:00] | fryfrog: | travolta: you have alsa's oss emulation htough |
| [11:02:00] | travolta: | no |
| [11:02:00] | fryfrog: | thats what i'm speaking of, sorry |
| [11:02:00] | travolta: | but i do for my 2.4 kernel |
| [11:02:00] | fryfrog: | if you have /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer, you do :) |
| [11:03:00] | fryfrog: | i'm pretty sure dsp and mixer are OSS things (including OSS compat from alsa) |
| [11:04:00] | dmz: | main.o: mtd was built without transcode support. It won't do anything. <=- that doesn't look good :( |
| [11:07:00] | travolta: | fryfrog, dont know then :( |
| [11:09:00] | riksta: | dmz: yes |
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| [11:16:00] | robin_: | http://news.com.com/Cell+companion+chip+gets+ . . . 5833453.html :) nice 48 channels at once recording. |
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| [11:36:00] | Atamido: | But where is the MythTV port for Cell? :P |
| [11:38:00] | dmz: | dang, debian build doesn't have transcode support :( anyone have a binary? :) |
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| [11:45:00] | MyNameIsChris: | Hello, really lame question. How does one change visualisations in MythMusic? |
| [11:46:00] | Atamido: | While you are playing, or setting a specific visual? |
| [11:46:00] | laga: | MyNameIsChris: '6' |
| [11:46:00] | MyNameIsChris: | While playing, sorry |
| [11:46:00] | MyNameIsChris: | laga, cheers |
| [11:46:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [11:46:00] | ** Atamido didn't know either way. :P ** | |
| [11:46:00] | laga: | your nick reminds me of the AA ;) |
| [11:47:00] | MyNameIsChris: | laga, haha |
| [11:47:00] | MyNameIsChris: | My Name is Chris and I am a Windows user |
| [11:47:00] | ** MyNameIsChris hides face ** | |
| [11:48:00] | MyNameIsChris: | *That is me trying to be funny* |
| [11:48:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [11:49:00] | MyNameIsChris: | My machine obviously didn't like one visualisation because the whole program just died |
| [11:50:00] | laga: | goom? ;) |
| [11:51:00] | MyNameIsChris: | laga, I don't know, it went 6 to death in under one second |
| [11:52:00] | MyNameIsChris: | laga, and goom works |
| [11:52:00] | laga: | that's a whole new record! ;) |
| [11:52:00] | MyNameIsChris: | laga, uber, do I need a witness? |
| [11:52:00] | laga: | MyNameIsChris: sorry, i'm not aware of the rules. your best bet is to contact those guiness guys. |
| [11:53:00] | MyNameIsChris: | Sure, look for me on Primetime |
| [11:53:00] | laga: | MyNameIsChris: you could find out what vis crashed your system and put only those vis in your setup that work |
| [11:53:00] | laga: | MyNameIsChris: i will! |
| [11:53:00] | MyNameIsChris: | Spectrum |
| [11:53:00] | MyNameIsChris: | In fullscreen only |
| [11:55:00] | MyNameIsChris: | I don't see anything about visuals in setup |
| [11:56:00] | laga: | it's in the mythmusic settings in the frontend |
| [11:57:00] | MyNameIsChris: | laga, got it |
| [11:59:00] | laga: | :) |
| [12:02:00] | MyNameIsChris: | What makes Smart Shuffle smart? |
| [12:08:00] | laga: | umm |
| [12:08:00] | laga: | it takes into account how many times you've heard this song before etc |
| [12:08:00] | laga: | it's even possible to adjust those values |
| [12:08:00] | laga: | that's in the settings, too :) |
| [12:09:00] | MyNameIsChris: | So I would have to use it for a while before it differs from random |
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| [12:11:00] | laga: | MyNameIsChris: possibly. sorry, i gotta go now, bbiafh ;) |
| [12:11:00] | MyNameIsChris: | See you |
| [12:11:00] | MyNameIsChris: | I best be off as well |
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| [12:19:00] | Sneaker__: | Hello, Can someone tell me taht |
| [12:20:00] | Sneaker__: | Hello, Can someone tell me that is it possible to get knoppmyth working with nova-t-usb2? |
| [12:27:00] | pirre: | Sneaker__: is it supported by ivtv |
| [12:27:00] | pirre: | ? |
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| [12:54:00] | fatmatt: | what are the database values to move the myth gui around the display? GuiOffsetX & Y don't seem to do much |
| [13:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | Those are the ones |
| [13:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | Why are you editing them right in the database and not through the GUI ? |
| [13:13:00] | fatmatt: | no keyboard on the frontend |
| [13:13:00] | fatmatt: | and I've altered the keys to suit my remote |
| [13:14:00] | fatmatt: | its one of those usb IR things |
| [13:15:00] | fatmatt: | should I be runnign mythfrontend in a window |
| [13:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | Only if you want the border/titlebar and all that aroundit :) |
| [13:18:00] | fatmatt: | the bloody window won't budge |
| [13:18:00] | fatmatt: | what do the numbers refer to there? pixels? |
| [13:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [13:19:00] | fatmatt: | y is up/down isn't it? |
| [13:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | So, you have altered the database setting AND restarted the frontend ? |
| [13:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
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| [13:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | and since you are trying to move the menu around, have you also shrunk it's display size as well? |
| [13:22:00] | fatmatt: | yes, restarted the frontend, |
| [13:23:00] | fatmatt: | but I've figured out how to do it with the remote on the Frontend just then, still no change |
| [13:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | <GreyFoxx> and since you are trying to move the menu around, have you also shrunk it's display size as well? |
| [13:25:00] | fatmatt: | hey, it moved, but I had to put in a few hundred as a value, that seems excessive |
| [13:25:00] | fatmatt: | well 120 |
| [13:26:00] | fatmatt: | I'm on this now |
| [13:26:00] | fatmatt: | next up, tv guide data |
| [13:26:00] | ** GreyFoxx packs up his kid and goes to work ** | |
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| [13:46:00] | root: | hey can someone help me set up ivtv |
| [13:47:00] | root: | cause i get only errors |
| [13:47:00] | root: | i'm starting to hate those errors |
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| [13:49:00] | root: | someone please help me |
| [13:50:00] | Tommck: | I have not set up ivtv for a long time |
| [13:50:00] | directhex|work: | you know, using IRC as root is unwise |
| [13:50:00] | Tommck: | This is my blog entry about it... http://tommck.jodoshared.com/blogs/toms_mytht . . . /17/150.aspx |
| [13:51:00] | root: | yes but do you know how i can get it work |
| [13:51:00] | Tommck: | root... I had to manually modify the code to get it to compile on my machine :) |
| [13:52:00] | root: | ah :s |
| [13:52:00] | root: | can you help me |
| [13:52:00] | root: | cause i'm not that good in linux |
| [13:52:00] | Tommck: | I have no knowledge except what is in that post. |
| [13:52:00] | root: | apt -get install give me error that he cant get ivtv |
| [13:53:00] | Tommck: | I'd wait for a couple of hours... this room gets more active then |
| [13:53:00] | root: | # apt-get install ivtv-kmdl-$KVER |
| [13:53:00] | root: | # apt-get install ivt |
| [13:53:00] | Tommck: | I have no knowledge of apt and barely any knowledge of ivtv.. |
| [13:53:00] | Tommck: | you're going to have to be patient and wait for someone. |
| [13:54:00] | Tommck: | I would suggest using google and searching on it.. |
| [13:54:00] | Tommck: | or searching the ivtv mailing list |
| [13:54:00] | root: | Err http://dl.atrpms.net fc3-i386/atrpms/stable ivtv-kmdl-2.6.11–1.35_FC3 1:0.2.0–69_rc3k.rhfc3.at |
| [13:54:00] | root: | 404 Not Found |
| [13:54:00] | Tommck: | or joining the ivtv mailing list. |
| [13:54:00] | root: | did already |
| [13:54:00] | Tommck: | have you tried finding the rpm directly, instead of leaning on the apt crutch? |
| [13:55:00] | directhex|work: | apt-rpm is a crutch. proper apt is more like a jetpack |
| [13:55:00] | root: | yes |
| [13:55:00] | root: | installed on the wiki way |
| [13:55:00] | root: | but no succes |
| [13:55:00] | root: | still got no ivtv |
| [13:56:00] | Tommck: | http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/14/idka/ . . . n/2005-07-24 |
| [13:56:00] | Tommck: | that was the FIRST entry in google searching for "ivtv rpm fc3"... |
| [13:57:00] | root: | yes |
| [13:57:00] | root: | but i still dont know how i can fix it |
| [13:57:00] | Tommck: | fix what? |
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| [13:58:00] | root: | how do i need to install the ivtv |
| [13:58:00] | root: | the tutorials only say it on the apt way |
| [13:58:00] | Tommck: | I don't have time to teach you how to use RPMs |
| [13:58:00] | Tommck: | "man rpm" |
| [13:58:00] | ripnetuk: | Hi, what is the correct way to specify dvb_using_eit when building myth? should I be altering the settings.pro file and adding DEFINES += DVB_USING_EIT and CONFIG += dvb_using_eit? or should I just be doing one of these, or niether? |
| [13:59:00] | ripnetuk: | ive googled and cannot find the answer |
| [13:59:00] | Tommck: | no idea... don't use DVB |
| [13:59:00] | directhex|work: | eit? |
| [13:59:00] | ripnetuk: | it pulls the porgram guide out of the DVB stream |
| [14:00:00] | Tommck: | ripnetuk – as far as I know, you don't ever have to modify settings.pro |
| [14:00:00] | Tommck: | you pass parameters to "configure" |
| [14:00:00] | Tommck: | try "configure --help" to see the options |
| [14:00:00] | directhex|work: | ah. wasn't there a tv_grab_dvb to do that? |
| [14:00:00] | ripnetuk: | ok, the first configure? |
| [14:00:00] | ripnetuk: | direct – thats the old way of doing it |
| [14:00:00] | ripnetuk: | thats how i do it now, on my VERY old myth box – im building a up to date box and want to auto-grab listings |
| [14:01:00] | directhex|work: | i see. well, i seem to recall there's only 7 days in the dvb listings, and 14 days in the radio times listings, so i'll stick with the "old" way for now |
| [14:01:00] | ripnetuk: | tom – thanks :) configure --help does the trick |
| [14:01:00] | Tommck: | ripnetuk – np |
| [14:01:00] | ripnetuk: | thanks again :) |
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| [14:01:00] | ripnetuk: | off to build again |
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| [14:08:00] | robin_: | Any PVR-150 Silver remote users online ? |
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| [14:09:00] | robin_: | The silver remote works great, I followed the instructions here: http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4609 (though I'm using kubuntu). But when I do a power down the HTPC for several hours, the remote is lost when I power on the machine. The lirc_i2c driver can't find the 'chip' on the PVR-150. I modified the driver to skip the probing but just use the chip at the known location, but that won't work. I have to reset several times to get my 'ch |
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| [14:09:00] | Tommck: | robin_ – you power down your front end often? |
| [14:09:00] | robin_: | Tommck: atm yes |
| [14:10:00] | Tommck: | robin_ – full shutdown or some sort of sleep mode? |
| [14:10:00] | robin_: | Tommck: full shutdown ('halt'). |
| [14:10:00] | Tommck: | robin_ – and it's OK for you to wait for boot time? |
| [14:11:00] | robin_: | Tommck: that's not the point here... the chip seems not be enabled(?) or least it can't be probed |
| [14:11:00] | ** Tommck is from the USA... we're used to instant gratification ;) ** | |
| [14:12:00] | Tommck: | sorry... I don't really have any ideas for you |
| [14:12:00] | robin_: | Tommck: the system will be probably always-on. But atm its still in testing modus ;) |
| [14:12:00] | Tommck: | ahh.. ok |
| [14:13:00] | Tommck: | I might play with sleep / low power mode for my front-end (separate) sometime |
| [14:14:00] | root: | hello |
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| [14:16:00] | robin_: | Tommck: well, If it is possible to resume it with the remote.. I'm too lazy to press the on/off switch :) |
| [14:16:00] | robin_: | root: hello |
| [14:16:00] | Tommck: | yeah.. good point |
| [14:17:00] | root: | hello |
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| [14:17:00] | robin_: | btw it is __NOT__ wise to login with root on IRC |
| [14:18:00] | root: | i know |
| [14:18:00] | root: | but i'm trying to find someone who can help me |
| [14:18:00] | robin_: | what's up |
| [14:18:00] | root: | with installing ivtv on my fedora |
| [14:19:00] | robin_: | can't help I don't like (read: don't know anything about) redhat |
| [14:19:00] | root: | :'( |
| [14:19:00] | root: | nobody can help me but everyone in this channel have it |
| [14:20:00] | robin_: | Okay, you can try ubuntu |
| [14:20:00] | robin_: | or kubuntu actaully |
| [14:20:00] | directhex|work: | i use debian with dvb |
| [14:20:00] | Tommck: | root – honestly, 1/2 the problem is that there are hardly any people in here right now |
| [14:20:00] | directhex|work: | which is a far cry from deadrat with ivtv |
| [14:21:00] | Tommck: | about another 1/4 is that you're asking very simple questions which could be handled with google searching |
| [14:21:00] | Tommck: | just download the RPM yourself and install it |
| [14:21:00] | robin_: | Use (K)ubuntu and follow the howoto here: http://www.abarbaccia.com/ |
| [14:22:00] | robin_: | *howto |
| [14:22:00] | root: | already tried but it wont work |
| [14:22:00] | robin_: | it worked here |
| [14:22:00] | Tommck: | what does "won't work" mean? |
| [14:22:00] | root: | but i will search further |
| [14:22:00] | Tommck: | you are like a help desk worker's nightmare |
| [14:22:00] | robin_: | :) |
| [14:23:00] | root: | when i do that |
| [14:23:00] | root: | :) |
| [14:23:00] | robin_: | I followed the howto at abarbaccia.com.. And probably there were some issues but nothing I couldn't handle |
| [14:23:00] | root: | i need to enable the driver |
| [14:23:00] | root: | then i says no ivtv found |
| [14:24:00] | robin_: | just download the source => and make && make install |
| [14:24:00] | robin_: | read the README's and docs on the sites. |
| [14:24:00] | robin_: | search the mailingslist |
| [14:24:00] | robin_: | s |
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| [14:24:00] | robin_: | and you will become another mythtv users |
| [14:24:00] | robin_: | -s |
| [14:24:00] | root: | ok ;) |
| [14:24:00] | root: | i will try |
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| [14:25:00] | manplusdog: | Hello all |
| [14:25:00] | manplusdog: | I have a working myth install :) |
| [14:26:00] | manplusdog: | I have a working dvb card |
| [14:26:00] | manplusdog: | and had a working bttv analogue card |
| [14:26:00] | root: | dvb card??? |
| [14:26:00] | root: | never mind |
| [14:26:00] | manplusdog: | nit ivtv :) |
| [14:27:00] | manplusdog: | not |
| [14:27:00] | directhex|work: | digital video broadcasting. mpeg2-over-air/cable/sat. not ivtv. |
| [14:27:00] | manplusdog: | as soon as I watched the bttv card the sound was permenantly on |
| [14:28:00] | manplusdog: | untill i reset the computer |
| [14:28:00] | manplusdog: | (so I ripped the bloody thing out) |
| [14:29:00] | manplusdog: | any thoughts? |
| [14:29:00] | manplusdog: | I could use alsamixer to disable capture on the card |
| [14:30:00] | manplusdog: | should myth do this? |
| [14:32:00] | manplusdog: | is that a great resounding NO? |
| [14:34:00] | Tommck: | manplusdog – sounds like you had the sound hardwired from the bttv to the sound card |
| [14:35:00] | Tommck: | am I correct in thinking that the only options I have for DVD playing with menu support are ogle and xine? |
| [14:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | For the moment |
| [14:36:00] | Tommck: | damn. |
| [14:37:00] | Tommck: | for some reason I can't get xine to work... |
| [14:37:00] | Tommck: | and ogle doesn't do my spdif output with DD5.1/DTS |
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| [14:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | Preliminary DVD support is in the internal player now (Assuming you compile with --enable-dvd). But the menu navigation isn't happenning yet |
| [14:38:00] | Tommck: | right. |
| [14:39:00] | directhex|work: | i use vlc for dvd playing, that's an option too |
| [14:40:00] | directhex|work: | vlc's dvdnav support is pretty good |
| [14:40:00] | directhex|work: | and unlike gole, supports lirc |
| [14:40:00] | Tommck: | I don't want lirc |
| [14:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nifty, I didn't know it supported the menus. ... not that I've tried it for that heh |
| [14:40:00] | Tommck: | I don't use lirc right now |
| [14:40:00] | Tommck: | what is vlc? |
| [14:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | VideoLan Client |
| [14:40:00] | Tommck: | ok |
| [14:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's a video streaming/transcoding app that also is a client app |
| [14:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | very cool stuff |
| [14:41:00] | directhex|work: | there are some caveats to using it in myth though, mostly because it's a pig to make the menu go away, and some window managers seem to misbehave on it |
| [14:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use it to stream shows/live TV to work from home all the time |
| [14:42:00] | Tommck: | slacker |
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| [14:42:00] | directhex|work: | doing "vlc dvd:// vlc:quit" should ensure vlc goes away when you finish a dvd, rather than sitting there on a black screen |
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| [14:56:00] | k-man_: | hello |
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| [14:57:00] | k-man_: | anyone here have any experience setting up lirc with the dev/input driver? |
| [14:57:00] | ** Tommck doesn't use lirc ** | |
| [14:57:00] | pirre: | k-man_: how about describing your problem instead? |
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| [15:12:00] | pirre: | t0t3r: don't irc as root. |
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| [15:16:00] | Anaerin: | So... Anyone got Myth to compile under MinGW? |
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| [15:16:00] | directhex|work: | front or back end? |
| [15:17:00] | Anaerin: | directhex|work: FrontEND |
| [15:17:00] | Anaerin: | I got a Backend already. |
| [15:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | there was a Guy who claimed on the list to have done it a long time ago. But I believe it never provided any evidence when asked about it (though I could be wrong) |
| [15:18:00] | directhex|work: | isn't QT for windows, like, $1000? |
| [15:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | After the conversion(whenever that happens) to support QT4 it should be simple |
| [15:18:00] | Anaerin: | directhex|work: No, QT/Windows is free (For Open Source projects) |
| [15:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | directhex|work: There was a QT3 win32 port done of the gpl version by the kde cygwin guys |
| [15:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | ananke: No, QT4 is gpl |
| [15:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | 'd on win32 |
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| [15:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | but trolltech never released a free win32 version. |
| [15:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | the cygwin KDE guys ported it. Otherwise you could get a trial version from trolltech only |
| [15:19:00] | directhex|work: | so winmyth until then? |
| [15:19:00] | directhex|work: | or linux desktops, as god intended |
| [15:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | At this time though Myth doesn't support QT4, so thazt's out. But if you use the trial version or the ported version it should be doable |
| [15:21:00] | directhex|work: | sounds like faff to me |
| [15:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | I messed around with it once with MSVC++ and it was mostly just syntax issues |
| [15:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | but the box I was doing it on went away before I finished |
| [15:21:00] | Anaerin: | GreyFoxx: http://www.trolltech.com/download/qt/windows.html (Which is QT4, I can't find anything on their site that's related to QT3) |
| [15:22:00] | t0t3r: | pirre, dont't irc as pirre |
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| [15:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | ananke: QT4 is recent, and not supported by many apps as there are many changes to properly use it |
| [15:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | It will be an option, after myth is changed to handle it :) |
| [15:22:00] | directhex|work: | t0t3r, the hostmask of "root" gives you away. if you're using something insecure like bitchx, you're just asking to be rooted |
| [15:22:00] | pirre: | t0t3r: why not? |
| [15:23:00] | root is now known as deepdelver | |
| [15:23:00] | pirre: | t0t3r: irc:ing as root may pose a security threat. Instead, create a regular user account and use that for irc. |
| [15:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | Anaerin: You could likely do it with the version that was ported. Assuming the SQL plugins were ported as well |
| [15:24:00] | t0t3r: | oh man |
| [15:24:00] | t0t3r: | i irc as root |
| [15:25:00] | pirre: | okay, your choice |
| [15:25:00] | Anaerin: | GreyFoxx: I'll see what I can do about getting that, though it appears the MinGW environment doesn't want to compile anything (On my machine, at least) |
| [15:26:00] | directhex|work: | doing idiotic things is always your perogative, but it doesn't mean they're not retarded |
| [15:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've never used MinGW. Just be sure to document what you do. If you succeed I'm sure many will want to do it as well :) |
| [15:27:00] | directhex|work: | i've done opengl work with mingw |
| [15:27:00] | directhex|work: | it's a little... volatile |
| [15:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Maybe I'll have to take a look at that in my imaginary spare time |
| [15:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | I should setup a vm session and try it out |
| [15:28:00] | Anaerin: | directhex|work: I'm getting the problem that even "gcc -v" reports "gcc.exe: no input files" |
| [15:28:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: solve an imaginary problem with your imaginary spare time? sounds right to me. :-D |
| [15:28:00] | Anaerin: | GreyFoxx: Bochs is your friend. |
| [15:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Anaerin:I'm a huge VMWARE fan. I use it all the time for a lot of stuff. And vmware 5 is the shiznit :) |
| [15:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | rjune: heh |
| [15:29:00] | Anaerin: | GreyFoxx: I've tried to tell my Debian box to Cross-Compile to MinGW using the MinGW Cross-compilers, and still have problems. |
| [15:30:00] | directhex|work: | i like vmware 5, i'm just not sure i'd have enoguh use for it |
| [15:30:00] | Anaerin: | I've got coLinux on here, so there's not much need for a VM |
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| [15:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | directhex|work: I use it a lot. I do 99% of my development on vm sessions now heh |
| [15:31:00] | directhex|work: | i rarely need to use windows. it's not in my job description |
| [15:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | up until recently it wasn't in mine. But I have no choice but to have windows on my work laptop. Which is where I have the vmware sessions |
| [15:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | most of which have slackware on them |
| [15:33:00] | rw`: | GreyFoxx, do you have write access in the subversion? |
| [15:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | rw`: Yes |
| [15:33:00] | directhex|work: | i have windows on the work laptop, but mostly because i use it to play guiold wars at the fiancee's place |
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| [15:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | directhex|work: hehe |
| [15:34:00] | directhex|work: | recently i've had to use it to test an iso with ICC & ifort on it |
| [15:34:00] | rw`: | GreyFoxx, don't you wanna please take a look in one of my tickets because I would like to add another ticket but it's dependent of this one. It's a pretty simple one #207. |
| [15:34:00] | directhex|work: | which doesn't work, because windows sucks terribly |
| [15:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | rw`: No |
| [15:35:00] | rw`: | GreyFoxx, ? |
| [15:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | No, I'm not going to apply your patch |
| [15:36:00] | rw`: | why? |
| [15:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's assigned to Isaac, not me |
| [15:36:00] | ** Anaerin orders GreyFoxx the ThinkGeek "No, I will not fix your computer" T-shirt ** | |
| [15:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | Anaerin: Heh I have that one :) |
| [15:36:00] | rw`: | GreyFoxx, all new patches are assigned to him right? |
| [15:37:00] | Anaerin: | And the "Bow before me, for I am root" one. :) |
| [15:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yup. and deals with an area of the code I never go near |
| [15:37:00] | directhex|work: | so who goes near mythmusic? ;) |
| [15:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | It looks simple enough, I'm sure it will make it in |
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| [15:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | Just mention it to Chutt next time you see him around |
| [15:38:00] | rw`: | GreyFoxx, ok. Yeah it's simple. The problem is that track haven't implement the feature of ticket dependencies so I can't post my other new patch... |
| [15:38:00] | rw`: | and this new one is really important... |
| [15:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | Just mention it in the ticket that it requires #207 to be applied first |
| [15:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | What does this one do ? |
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| [15:39:00] | rw`: | GreyFoxx, you know about categories in ui.xml? |
| [15:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [15:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | In that I know they are there from having edited a theme or 2 |
| [15:40:00] | directhex|work: | there's some stuff i should really implement properly (e.g. an option to shutdown a combined back-frontend, a separate non-modifier quit key for use with remotes, etc), but dirty hacks are doing the job. plus patches to libmyth are a little redundant with the switch to libmythui. and on top of that, i can't be arsed to send in more patches without at least some acknowledgement – i'm sick of my patches getting ignored on oss stuff |
| [15:41:00] | rw`: | GreyFoxx, you know there is a bloack of code that adds categories and colors. This code is repeated twice in each ui.xml. If we have 10 themes we'll have 20 repetitions of the same code. My patch simply centralizes the code in only one file. |
| [15:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, for the shutdown of a combo I would just add a config option to enable that ability if the user wants it. That and the change to the current if would only be a couple lines. |
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| [15:42:00] | MrSpiffy: | hola |
| [15:42:00] | MrSpiffy: | hey folks – I've been tring to get the audio cd import to look up cddb for a week now |
| [15:42:00] | MrSpiffy: | nada |
| [15:43:00] | MrSpiffy: | this machine is a frontend only – runs startx from rc.local on boot, then backbox (wm) and mythfrontend from startx |
| [15:43:00] | MrSpiffy: | I tried putting a cddb file in /.mythtv – no change |
| [15:43:00] | directhex|work: | it's a couple of lines, true, but it would need actual doing, then actual acceptance into svn. i've mostly done it, but there's a bug i can't be bothered to fix (some screens, e.g. leaving mythmusic settings screens needs use of the power button not the exit button), and the button is defined in the sql but not configurable anywhere |
| [15:43:00] | MrSpiffy: | no error messges to console, nothing |
| [15:44:00] | MrSpiffy: | any thoughts on where I can look for the problem? |
| [15:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | directhex|work: I think a user was working on a onscreen way to configure every key and the action is does similar to what's in mythweb. Though it's not in the main tree yet |
| [15:46:00] | directhex|work: | GreyFoxx, i just shoved in a line to register the extra event, restarted myth, went into mythweb, and it was magically there for the configurin'. i might have my reservations about how some of the code is done, but the abstraction of sql-based config is child's play |
| [15:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [15:47:00] | directhex|work: | actually, can someone run a quick test for me? change your exit key to ctrl-esc, then go into the mythmusic playback settings screen – then back to the home screen can you go all the way back via only the escape key, or is it some else's bug that soe settings dialogs expect the ctrl modifier |
| [15:47:00] | directhex|work: | there was meant to be at least one extra full stop in the above statement |
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| [15:51:00] | CJC: | Where can I find new visualizations for mythmusic? |
| [15:52:00] | MrSpiffy: | hey folks – I've been tring to get the audio cd import to look up cddb for a week now |
| [15:53:00] | MrSpiffy: | I tried putting a cddb file in /.mythtv – no change |
| [15:53:00] | MrSpiffy: | any thoughts on where I can look for the problem? |
| [15:53:00] | CJC: | which users ~/.mythtv? root? |
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| [15:56:00] | MrSpiffy: | CJC, the frontend runs from rc.local |
| [15:56:00] | MrSpiffy: | user listed as ? |
| [15:56:00] | MrSpiffy: | I put a .cdserverrc file in /.mythtv |
| [15:56:00] | MrSpiffy: | no change |
| [15:56:00] | MrSpiffy: | same problem running as root |
| [15:56:00] | MrSpiffy: | same file in ~/.mythtv |
| [15:56:00] | CJC: | well... in my /etc/init.d/mythbackend script, it shows me which users mythtv will run as. |
| [15:57:00] | MrSpiffy: | CJC, this is a frontend only – no backend running on the machine |
| [15:57:00] | CJC: | You'll need the .mythtv directory for that user to have the data as well as have permissions to it... you probably have myth running as root though, don't you? |
| [15:57:00] | CJC: | oh |
| [15:57:00] | MrSpiffy: | yeah |
| [15:57:00] | CJC: | Wouldn't the backend be responsible for the CDDB... especially since the backend works the database? |
| [15:59:00] | MrSpiffy: | I don't know |
| [15:59:00] | MrSpiffy: | the frontend can connect to my backend no prob |
| [15:59:00] | MrSpiffy: | my backend is a server in a closet |
| [15:59:00] | MrSpiffy: | it serves multiple front ends |
| [16:00:00] | CJC: | MrSpiffy I haven't worked out the CDDB thing either... I was wondering why my album art wasn't getting pulled in. What's your log say? |
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| [16:03:00] | MrSpiffy: | nothing |
| [16:03:00] | MrSpiffy: | nothing to console at all |
| [16:03:00] | CJC: | uh... how about /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log |
| [16:03:00] | MrSpiffy: | hey I GOT IT |
| [16:03:00] | MrSpiffy: | no backend – no backend log |
| [16:03:00] | MrSpiffy: | I finally found the damn thing |
| [16:03:00] | CJC: | what was it? |
| [16:04:00] | MrSpiffy: | I had to put the .cdserverrc file in /var/lib/mythtv |
| [16:04:00] | MrSpiffy: | not in /.mythtv |
| [16:04:00] | MrSpiffy: | damn |
| [16:04:00] | CJC: | hmm. |
| [16:04:00] | CJC: | cool... does it fill in your album art now too...? |
| [16:04:00] | CJC: | if so, would you tell me how you did it? |
| [16:04:00] | MrSpiffy: | from .15 to .18 there was a change – the mysql.txt file goes in /.mythtv BUT the .cdserverrc still goes in /var/lib/mythtv |
| [16:05:00] | MrSpiffy: | and here I thought it would be consistent |
| [16:05:00] | MrSpiffy: | sheesh |
| [16:05:00] | MrSpiffy: | no albun art CJC |
| [16:06:00] | CJC: | hmm... So, it works good for you now? Does it redo your ID3 tags for you? |
| [16:06:00] | CJC: | if you have mp3s... or is this just only for ripping cds that you're using it? |
| [16:08:00] | MrSpiffy: | both |
| [16:08:00] | MrSpiffy: | damn – another problem |
| [16:08:00] | MrSpiffy: | it works as root from ssh |
| [16:08:00] | MrSpiffy: | now to work on it as nobody form boot |
| [16:08:00] | CJC: | good idea |
| [16:09:00] | CJC: | So what are you using for visualizations??? the stock set? |
| [16:11:00] | MrSpiffy: | CJC, yes – I have not played with that yet |
| [16:11:00] | MrSpiffy: | CJC, are you using an album art visualization? |
| [16:11:00] | MrSpiffy: | if so it sounds like it could be very cool |
| [16:12:00] | CJC: | I read somewhere about using M$ windowsmedia visualizations with mythtv... but can't find it anymore :( I'm not getting the album art either, but I don't know if that's due to my ID3 tags being mostly v1.1 and old and maybe incorrect. |
| [16:12:00] | CJC: | but it should work |
| [16:13:00] | MrSpiffy: | CJC, good guess |
| [16:13:00] | MrSpiffy: | CJC, I've been fixng my id3 tags to clean up the player |
| [16:13:00] | MrSpiffy: | it's a big job made easier with EasyTag |
| [16:13:00] | Tagada_: | Hi. I want to try setting up MythTV with a PVR-350 (using TVOut) on a Pentium II 400MHz box. Has anybody tried such a slow box with success already? |
| [16:14:00] | CJC: | Tagada: we recommend 1.0GHz per encoder... |
| [16:14:00] | MrSpiffy: | Tagada_, sounds painful |
| [16:14:00] | CJC: | Tagada: Your PII 400 probably only has a pc66 rambus and a ata33 harddrive... you won't even be able to write the video to the disk at the bitrates you want to sample. |
| [16:15:00] | Tagada_: | hmmm good point |
| [16:15:00] | directhex|work: | pc66 sdram |
| [16:15:00] | directhex|work: | NOT rambus on p2 |
| [16:15:00] | CJC: | Tagada: If you try it, first go get an SATA card... and an SATA drive that replaces your slow ide thing. |
| [16:16:00] | CJC: | that way you can free up more proc |
| [16:16:00] | CJC: | Tagada: and if that's doable... probably drop the onboard audio too if it eats up time from the machine |
| [16:16:00] | MrSpiffy: | Tagada_, your cpu will peg at 100% I think your HD is a secondary concern. I am using ata drives and have been for a while – no prob there. when I was running a backend on a 2G pc it nailed the cpu to at least 50% |
| [16:17:00] | CJC: | directhex: thanks... I meant your Ram bus... oops on the typos. hehe |
| [16:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | Tagada_: I've seen it done on a Similar box with a ATA 100 pci controller |
| [16:18:00] | Tagada_: | OK. I will give it a try anyway. If anything I will find out what really is the bottleneck. Thanks. |
| [16:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | A coworker of mine set it up on his 450 when he first got his pvr 350 |
| [16:19:00] | CJC: | GreyFoxx: could he do the whole pause and fast-forward liveTV thing? |
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| [16:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [16:20:00] | CJC: | cool |
| [16:21:00] | CJC: | Am I on a wild goose chase looking for new mythmusic visualizations? Or is there someone here whom can shed a little light on the subject, please. |
| [16:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm unaware of any outside of what comes with mythmusic. But I don't use that plugin really. |
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| [16:22:00] | CJC: | GreyFoxx: ty |
| [16:24:00] | CJC: | Since my top shows that mythfrontend is running, and it doesn't show that mplayer or xmms are running... how would I know which audio player is being used..? |
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| [16:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | Myth uses it's own internal video player for recordings/livetv and internal player for music |
| [16:26:00] | directhex|work: | aren't the visualisations goom-based? |
| [16:26:00] | CJC: | GreyFoxx: by internal player, do you mean Myth just compiles parts of mplayer into itself? |
| [16:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | CJC: No, it has it's own code |
| [16:26:00] | CJC: | directhex: I've read "goom" in a few threads about the visualizations.. but I haven't learned what it's all about. |
| [16:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | though they do use as common library |
| [16:32:00] | deepdelver: | do somebody know how i can get my windows xp mediacenter remote control working on linux |
| [16:32:00] | CJC: | deepdelver: have you setup lirc? |
| [16:32:00] | deepdelver: | yes |
| [16:32:00] | CJC: | deepdelver: batteries good? |
| [16:32:00] | deepdelver: | yes |
| [16:33:00] | deepdelver: | but when i open lircd it said i need to install a remote |
| [16:33:00] | laga: | have you installed a remote? |
| [16:33:00] | deepdelver: | nop |
| [16:33:00] | directhex|work: | there are new and olf MCE remotes. from what i read, the new ones don't weork with lirc |
| [16:34:00] | deepdelver: | i have him almost a half year |
| [16:35:00] | deepdelver: | but how do i setup an old remote |
| [16:35:00] | directhex|work: | setting up lirc is non-trivial |
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| [16:37:00] | deepdelver: | non what? |
| [16:37:00] | laga: | deepdelver: 'not easy' |
| [16:38:00] | deepdelver: | ah maybe that is the reason why i ask for help? |
| [16:38:00] | laga: | deepdelver: did you use google to find a tutorial for your remote? |
| [16:38:00] | deepdelver: | yes |
| [16:38:00] | deepdelver: | did i find something |
| [16:38:00] | deepdelver: | yes |
| [16:38:00] | laga: | did it work? ;) |
| [16:38:00] | deepdelver: | did it bring me any further no |
| [16:38:00] | CJC: | deepdelver: try typing your remotes model # into the search at forums.gentoo.org maybe someone has already covered it |
| [16:38:00] | laga: | no |
| [16:38:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [16:39:00] | deepdelver: | cause i cant get irw start up |
| [16:40:00] | deepdelver: | CJC, i did but couldnt find on my model nummer |
| [16:40:00] | deepdelver: | but someone now how to start irw |
| [16:40:00] | deepdelver: | /usr/bin/irw |
| [16:40:00] | deepdelver: | reflects to an error |
| [16:41:00] | deepdelver: | while the file is over there for sure |
| [16:41:00] | directhex|work: | irw will throw an error if lircd isn't started |
| [16:41:00] | directhex|work: | lircd won;t start if your remote isn't configured (lircd.conf) |
| [16:41:00] | deepdelver: | idd connection error |
| [16:42:00] | deepdelver: | connect: Connection refused |
| [16:42:00] | deepdelver: | /sbin/service lircd start |
| [16:42:00] | deepdelver: | Starting infrared remote control daemon: [ OK ] |
| [16:42:00] | deepdelver: | connect: Connection refused |
| [16:43:00] | deepdelver: | what i'm doing wrong? |
| [16:43:00] | laga: | umm. |
| [16:43:00] | laga: | i wonder if it's an permission issue with some /dev/lirc* device? |
| [16:44:00] | directhex|work: | probable, but i wouldn't trust any "friendly" init script wrappers with nice messages like OK |
| [16:44:00] | deepdelver: | but can someone please help me set up my remote control already used very much tutorials |
| [16:44:00] | deepdelver: | like http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php#sw |
| [16:44:00] | deepdelver: | and more |
| [16:45:00] | CJC: | deepdelver, sorry if I missed it already... but which distro do you run? |
| [16:45:00] | deepdelver: | fedora core 3 |
| [16:45:00] | MrSpiffy: | deepdelver, ok – it failed – the trick is to see why |
| [16:45:00] | MrSpiffy: | tail /var/log/messages |
| [16:45:00] | MrSpiffy: | right after trying to start it |
| [16:45:00] | ** MrSpiffy runs FC ** | |
| [16:46:00] | MrSpiffy: | it probably did not start despite the OK |
| [16:46:00] | MrSpiffy: | or if it did, the connection refused error may be in the log |
| [16:47:00] | deepdelver: | i sent you my log |
| [16:47:00] | MrSpiffy: | checking |
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| [16:48:00] | laga: | afk. |
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| [16:49:00] | CJC: | see ya guys again soon... I'm going to run some errands. |
| [16:49:00] | CJC: | have a good day |
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| [17:01:00] | deepdelver: | can someone help me mu lirc doesn't work |
| [17:02:00] | deepdelver: | i have already installed it and i have a large red cross in my taskbar |
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| [17:04:00] | deepdelver: | someone?? |
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| [17:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | <GreyFoxx> Try #lirc |
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| [17:06:00] | directhex|work: | even for experienced users, lirc is a massive pain in assorted parts of the anatomy |
| [17:06:00] | deepdelver: | it's emty |
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| [17:06:00] | ** GreyFoxx has happily avoided having to use lirc :) ** | |
| [17:06:00] | deepdelver: | :'( |
| [17:07:00] | deepdelver: | but i need to get it work some tips how? |
| [17:07:00] | directhex|work: | i've used lirc, and generated my own lirc config which gets most (but not all) buttons on my remote working |
| [17:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | Considering I don't, and haven't used it, I wouldn;'t have any tips to give you |
| [17:07:00] | directhex|work: | enough to be usable, anyway, only 4 buttons are screwy |
| [17:08:00] | deepdelver: | ah ok |
| [17:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | I hacked up a driver to support my remote, which several of my friends use. Others just get a learning remote and "train" it to use the same IR codes as their IR keyboards. So bypassing the need for lirc |
| [17:08:00] | deepdelver: | but i have my remote control on usb does that matters? |
| [17:08:00] | directhex|work: | this is NOT a promise to help you, but what are the permissions on all lirc device nodes in /dev, and is your lircd.conf correct? |
| [17:08:00] | deepdelver: | how do i know? |
| [17:09:00] | deepdelver: | how can i check it? |
| [17:09:00] | directhex|work: | i think we have a user problem here, not a software problem. using IRC as root is a good indication that lirc is above your level of expertise |
| [17:10:00] | deepdelver: | thnx |
| [17:10:00] | deepdelver: | but you dont help me further with my problem |
| [17:11:00] | directhex|work: | i said a long time ago that you need a valid lircd.conf for lircd to start |
| [17:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | deepdelver: Have you read all of the howto's and FAQ's from http://www.lirc.org/ ? They might be useful in figuring out your problem |
| [17:11:00] | directhex|work: | is your lircd.conf valid? did you even pursue the matter, or just ignore it? |
| [17:11:00] | deepdelver: | i have found an tutorial where it is explained for a serial bttv or pvr-x50 |
| [17:12:00] | deepdelver: | the only thing i ask is it possible to get the usb working |
| [17:12:00] | deepdelver: | or do i need to buy a serial reciever |
| [17:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | There are many usb based remotes, and several of them work just fine |
| [17:12:00] | deepdelver: | almost all GreyFoxx |
| [17:13:00] | deepdelver: | ok but how do i tell linux that my remote is on usb |
| [17:13:00] | deepdelver: | i can only find tutorials about |
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| [17:13:00] | deepdelver: | where it is explained for a serial bttv or pvr-x50 |
| [17:13:00] | directhex|work: | you need to compile a lirc_mceusb.ko kernel module |
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| [17:14:00] | deepdelver: | can you explain me how |
| [17:14:00] | deepdelver: | ? |
| [17:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's likely because you need to properly configure LIRC, and it not something I can give you specific direction on. Go read the documentation/mailling lists on www.lirc.org like I already said |
| [17:14:00] | directhex|work: | did you even usine bloody google? first link i click on a search for "lirc mce remote", links straight to a site with a tutorial |
| [17:14:00] | directhex|work: | http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=L . . . CE2004Remote <-- there. apply common sense to make it apply to you. AND DON'T USE IRC AS BLOODY ROOT |
| [17:15:00] | deepdelver: | doesnt matter the only thing you can do is screw up my linux |
| [17:15:00] | deepdelver: | so what |
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| [17:16:00] | asdrubal: | PHOTOBLOG.NET MAJOR BUG RELEASED muahaha (still not patched) --> http://www.systemsecure.org/ssforum/viewtopic.php?t=65 |
| [17:16:00] | deepdelver: | and yes i used google but only with the words mce lirc remote fedora |
| [17:16:00] | deepdelver: | cause now i get a tutorial with another shell |
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| [17:23:00] | deepdelver: | can someone help me with this tutorial |
| [17:23:00] | deepdelver: | http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=L . . . CE2004Remote |
| [17:23:00] | deepdelver: | they say i need to type make but he don't know a target |
| [17:23:00] | deepdelver: | what target do i need to give him |
| [17:23:00] | deepdelver: | ? |
| [17:23:00] | directhex|work: | pwd |
| [17:23:00] | Beirdo: | directhex|work: calm down, and quit picking on people |
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| [17:24:00] | deepdelver: | :s |
| [17:24:00] | Tommck: | deepdelver – maybe you need to do "./configure" first? |
| [17:25:00] | deepdelver: | i'm sorry i dont use linux so long as many other people so yes i'm still noop |
| [17:25:00] | deepdelver: | Tommck, i already done that |
| [17:25:00] | deepdelver: | onfigure: error: *** you need to have the Linux kernel source installed |
| [17:25:00] | deepdelver: | for this driver |
| [17:26:00] | deepdelver: | what does that mean |
| [17:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | It means exactly what it says |
| [17:26:00] | directhex|work: | what do you think it means? try to apply common sense. read the message carefully |
| [17:26:00] | Tommck: | you need to have the Linux kernel source installed |
| [17:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | in order to compile whatever you are trying to compile the Linux lernel source must be installed |
| [17:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | lernel! wooo |
| [17:26:00] | deepdelver: | ok i wil search how i need to do that |
| [17:26:00] | Tommck: | deepdelver – what distro? |
| [17:27:00] | deepdelver: | fedora core 3 |
| [17:28:00] | Tommck: | I'm not familiar with that one, so I can't help there |
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| [17:33:00] | deepdelver: | why does nobody make a fucking tutorial wich work i'm fucking 6 days busy with it i now have finnaly my tv-out working my capture card running (i hope) but now my fucking remote doesnt work i get crazy |
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| [17:35:00] | directhex|work: | i'm not going to answer that, Beirdo might interpret it as picking on you & kick me out |
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| [17:37:00] | Beirdo: | deepdelver: why don't you make a fucking tutorial :) |
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| [17:38:00] | Tommck: | deepdelver – dude... this is not a commercial product... you have to do work on your own. |
| [17:38:00] | Tommck: | if you don't want to tinker with it, buy a Tivo and STFU |
| [17:39:00] | Beirdo: | or you make do with what's there |
| [17:39:00] | keith: | er... what he say that your're all yelling at him for.... i came in late |
| [17:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | deepdelver: I'd bed that the tutorials are fine |
| [17:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | bet |
| [17:39:00] | Beirdo: | if you want more docs, write em :) |
| [17:39:00] | directhex|work: | i'll take the above as carte balnche, then. for two reasons. first of all, people work on myhth and associatd documentation in their spare time – they don't owe you anything, and they do things out of their own good will. seconly, because there is a bare expecttation of minimum knowledge – if i write a tutorial, and you can't follow it, then that doesn't neccessarily mean the tutorial "doesn't work" – it cvould just as easily be your o |
| [17:39:00] | directhex|work: | wn lack of understanding |
| [17:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hrm, to buy a pvr350 or not |
| [17:39:00] | directhex|work: | as it stands, i can see one error in that lirc tutorial, but your problem is unrelated to it |
| [17:40:00] | directhex|work: | the fact that you had to ask what "you need to have the Linux kernel source installed for this driver" means you didn't even read your own message – which suggests any tutorial is going to ahve a hard time targeting your level of experience, and writing documentation *isn't fun* |
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| [17:41:00] | directhex|work: | this isn't a personal dig, it's a genral comment on some peoples' reactions to free work – people today have an attitude that "free isn't enough, i want more" |
| [17:42:00] | directhex|work: | the recent comments on the mythtv mailing lists of people complaining because the guy who makes debian packages, unofficially, in his spare tie, isn't doing his "job" fast enough – as if he owes anyone anything |
| [17:42:00] | Beirdo: | he does |
| [17:42:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:42:00] | Beirdo: | he owes himself |
| [17:42:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:42:00] | Beirdo: | but he don't owe us shit |
| [17:42:00] | directhex|work: | he owes himself a beer or two, and i suspect i owe him one too |
| [17:42:00] | keith: | zactly |
| [17:43:00] | deepdelver: | but you see it as an attack |
| [17:43:00] | keith: | direct- i got tons of help from the tutorials here and the chat.... thats why im here- to offer what help i can on my level before i go to class. |
| [17:43:00] | deepdelver: | and yes i have made very much tutorials |
| [17:43:00] | keith: | if anything i owe you guys, not the otherway around |
| [17:43:00] | deepdelver: | and yes i know there are sometimes misstakes in them |
| [17:43:00] | directhex|work: | actually, know what would be nice? rather than open source projects with paypal donations, start up beerfund – donate beer to your target open source project! |
| [17:44:00] | Beirdo: | screw beer |
| [17:44:00] | Beirdo: | I want scotch |
| [17:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | but about us that don't drink ? :) |
| [17:44:00] | directhex|work: | bah, go & rain on my parade :( |
| [17:44:00] | laga: | beer is fine. |
| [17:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [17:44:00] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx: you need screech |
| [17:44:00] | Beirdo: | you're close enough to Newf to get right pissed |
| [17:45:00] | keith: | ack gotta go, batteries dying |
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| [17:45:00] | directhex|work: | i've not made any donations to any open source projects. i've donated considerable time in helping support them, the odd patch & bug report here & there, and whatever media coverage i can get away with, but no actual money |
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| [17:50:00] | directhex|work: | i must go home now |
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| [17:58:00] | deepdelver: | ik heb denk een foutje gemaakt ergens |
| [17:58:00] | deepdelver: | maar ik heb een schijf genaamd /video |
| [17:58:00] | Beirdo: | WTF? |
| [17:58:00] | Tommck: | bless you |
| [17:58:00] | deepdelver: | maar kan deze niet gebruiken in linux |
| [17:58:00] | Beirdo: | we ain't dutch |
| [17:58:00] | ** laga is deutsch. ** | |
| [17:58:00] | laga: | :> |
| [17:58:00] | deepdelver: | ow i'm sorry |
| [17:58:00] | ** Tommck hands deepdelver a tissue ** | |
| [17:58:00] | deepdelver: | :P |
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| [17:59:00] | lil_ze: | I am trying to add a button to my main menu. So I added a button in /usr/local/mythtv/mainmenu.xml but no button is showing up on my menu. Am I editing the right file? |
| [17:59:00] | Beirdo: | and yes, i recognized the language |
| [17:59:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:59:00] | ** laga is still trying to understand it ** | |
| [17:59:00] | deepdelver: | can someone help me cause i made an disk /video but i cant find or use the disk in fedora 3 do i need to mount it or something |
| [17:59:00] | Beirdo: | I knew it was either Dutch or Afrikaans |
| [17:59:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:00:00] | deepdelver: | :P |
| [18:00:00] | deepdelver: | sorry sorry |
| [18:00:00] | Beirdo: | which of course... is derived from Dutch :) |
| [18:00:00] | deepdelver: | i'm so used to type dutch |
| [18:00:00] | Beirdo: | we should get deepdelver to contribute by sending us tulip bulbs |
| [18:00:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:00:00] | deepdelver: | tulip bulbs? |
| [18:00:00] | Krazylegz: | Windmills! |
| [18:00:00] | deepdelver: | what is that ? |
| [18:01:00] | Beirdo: | you know what tulips are, I hope!? |
| [18:01:00] | deepdelver: | yes |
| [18:01:00] | deepdelver: | :P:P |
| [18:01:00] | Beirdo: | the bulbs are what they grow from |
| [18:01:00] | Beirdo: | you plant them |
| [18:01:00] | tuxick: | or you eat them! |
| [18:01:00] | deepdelver: | ow bollen they call i in dutch |
| [18:01:00] | deepdelver: | we eat them only in war |
| [18:01:00] | deepdelver: | :P |
| [18:01:00] | Tommck: | what's better than roses on your piano? |
| [18:02:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, they can be eaten |
| [18:02:00] | Beirdo: | but that's a waste of a pretty flower unless you are starving |
| [18:02:00] | Tommck: | Tulips on your organ! |
| [18:02:00] | deepdelver: | but somebody know where linux hide my 110 gb harddisk |
| [18:02:00] | deepdelver: | partition:P |
| [18:02:00] | Krazylegz: | Heh. |
| [18:03:00] | deepdelver: | and then everybody is silence |
| [18:03:00] | deepdelver: | ...... |
| [18:03:00] | deepdelver: | :P |
| [18:03:00] | XAD|onoff: | ... |
| [18:03:00] | deepdelver: | . |
| [18:04:00] | Tommck: | deepdelver – how are we supposed to know? |
| [18:04:00] | deepdelver: | you are smart |
| [18:04:00] | Beirdo: | fdisk -l /dev/hda |
| [18:04:00] | laga: | deepdelver: fire up cfdisk as root. |
| [18:04:00] | Beirdo: | or whatever the drive is |
| [18:04:00] | Beirdo: | as root |
| [18:04:00] | laga: | well, beirdos approach is better |
| [18:04:00] | Beirdo: | that will list the partitions |
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| [18:04:00] | Beirdo: | welcome back, xris. morning |
| [18:05:00] | xris: | rning |
| [18:05:00] | xris: | morning, even |
| [18:05:00] | ** xris slaps his keyboard ** | |
| [18:05:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:05:00] | xris: | so, resumes have started coming in.... first one sent .doc |
| [18:05:00] | laga: | keyboard smashing is always fun. but i hate keyboard-puzzling :/ |
| [18:05:00] | Beirdo: | straight to the shredder with that one |
| [18:05:00] | deepdelver: | Schijf /dev/video: 0 MB, 0 bytes |
| [18:05:00] | deepdelver: | 255 koppen, 63 sectoren/spoor, 0 cylinders |
| [18:05:00] | deepdelver: | Eenheden = cylinders van 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes |
| [18:05:00] | deepdelver: | Schijf /dev/video bevat geen geldige partitietabel |
| [18:05:00] | Tommck: | lol |
| [18:06:00] | laga: | xris: mv resume_minion.doc /dev/null |
| [18:06:00] | deepdelver: | the last thing i will translate |
| [18:06:00] | deepdelver: | doesnt have a right partition table or somthing |
| [18:06:00] | Tommck: | deepdelver – don't paste stuff in here.. use pastebin.ca |
| [18:06:00] | laga: | deepdelver: umm. /dev/video is your capture card |
| [18:06:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [18:06:00] | XAD|onoff: | deep, and this is MythTV's fault?? |
| [18:06:00] | laga: | but it's creative for sure |
| [18:06:00] | deepdelver: | nop |
| [18:06:00] | Beirdo: | you need to fdisk -l the DRIVE |
| [18:06:00] | Beirdo: | not the capture card :) |
| [18:06:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [18:07:00] | deepdelver: | youre right his name is hda4 |
| [18:07:00] | deepdelver: | how do i mount it? |
| [18:07:00] | Beirdo: | man mount |
| [18:07:00] | laga: | and man fstab |
| [18:07:00] | Tommck: | R |
| [18:07:00] | Tommck: | T |
| [18:07:00] | Tommck: | F |
| [18:07:00] | Tommck: | M |
| [18:08:00] | laga: | Tommck: please use pastebin.ca. |
| [18:08:00] | Beirdo: | Tommck: be nice to the entertaining newbie :) |
| [18:08:00] | Krazylegz: | What's RTFM? |
| [18:08:00] | Krazylegz: | :-) |
| [18:08:00] | ** Tommck is thinking about fstabbing deepdelver myself ** | |
| [18:08:00] | Tommck: | laga – lol |
| [18:08:00] | xris: | Krazylegz: what you should do right after STFW |
| [18:08:00] | Tommck: | U |
| [18:08:00] | Beirdo: | and before we tell you to STFU |
| [18:09:00] | Krazylegz: | None of those will work for Lingo, you need 5 letters. |
| [18:09:00] | laga: | umm, it took me some time to get the 'fstabbing' thing. |
| [18:09:00] | xris: | Tommck: no, stwf.. search the f'ing web |
| [18:09:00] | Krazylegz: | Also, they're not words. |
| [18:09:00] | xris: | stfw, even |
| [18:09:00] | Tommck: | Laga – http://pastebin.ca/20171 |
| [18:09:00] | laga: | Tommck: gooood boy |
| [18:10:00] | deepdelver: | pfffff.... so much letters |
| [18:10:00] | Tommck: | hehe |
| [18:10:00] | deepdelver: | i give up |
| [18:10:00] | deepdelver: | its to high for me |
| [18:10:00] | Krazylegz: | Heh, this is one way to help people, make them go elsewhere. :-) |
| [18:10:00] | Tommck: | I use Trillian... it links up Wikipedia to the chat window... all those things get highlighted and I mouse-over to get the definition if I don't know it |
| [18:10:00] | Beirdo: | http://pastebin.ca/20172 |
| [18:10:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:11:00] | laga: | Beirdo: figlet? |
| [18:11:00] | Tommck: | Krazylegz – the faster they go away, the faster they find someone who will really help. |
| [18:11:00] | Beirdo: | banner |
| [18:11:00] | Tommck: | Kristopher – we're doing them a service :) |
| [18:11:00] | Tommck: | Beirdo – I almost did that :) |
| [18:11:00] | Beirdo: | Bah |
| [18:11:00] | Krazylegz: | Even though we all know what he needed to do? :-) |
| [18:11:00] | Tommck: | I just couldn't remember how :) |
| [18:11:00] | Beirdo: | my boss used to have a 6x8 poster with RTFM on it... |
| [18:12:00] | Beirdo: | he had it on his cubicle wall |
| [18:12:00] | laga: | Beirdo: metres? |
| [18:12:00] | Beirdo: | and when people asked stupid questions, he'd point at it |
| [18:12:00] | Beirdo: | inches |
| [18:12:00] | lil_ze: | oops i found out how to edit the main menu....sory |
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| [18:12:00] | Krazylegz: | That's right, you APOLOGIZE!! |
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| [18:12:00] | laga: | darn, The_Internet_is_for_Porn.mp3 has become my favourite song. |
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| [18:13:00] | Beirdo: | hadees: that looks so nasty, you should complain |
| [18:13:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [18:14:00] | deepdelver: | people i have one question before i give up this mythtv...... I started with knoppmyth but i couldnt get it working with xmltv and the capture card so i tried to configure it bu hand so i could use internet near it and i could change this in the grafic way but i noticed this is much more difficult, so what you guys adivise me do i need to try to go further with fedora and mythtv going further with knoppmyth or just stop it cause I will opr |
| [18:14:00] | deepdelver: | obably never get this working ???? |
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| [18:15:00] | Tommck: | deepdelver – are you following Jarod's guide? |
| [18:15:00] | laga: | deepdelver: so, your only problem is mounting the hard drive? |
| [18:15:00] | deepdelver: | no lirc doesnt work mij capture card i'm not sure if it works my harddrive doesnt work |
| [18:15:00] | deepdelver: | and i really don't know what is next |
| [18:16:00] | deepdelver: | and nop i use the wilsonet |
| [18:16:00] | deepdelver: | but there is a large change that i already tried jarod's |
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| [18:17:00] | Tommck: | wilsonet is Jarod's Guide |
| [18:17:00] | deepdelver: | ok |
| [18:17:00] | deepdelver: | ;) |
| [18:17:00] | deepdelver: | so what do you guys advice me |
| [18:17:00] | deepdelver: | ? |
| [18:18:00] | Beirdo: | speaking of Jarod, he hasn't been here for a while. |
| [18:18:00] | Tommck: | deepdelver – I don't know... google is your friend though |
| [18:18:00] | deepdelver: | i gogled for 6 days to get as far as i'm now |
| [18:18:00] | deepdelver: | but it looks like i get stuck |
| [18:19:00] | laga: | deepdelver: open a terminal. |
| [18:19:00] | deepdelver: | already |
| [18:20:00] | Tommck: | sounds like a few more days of googling is in your future :) |
| [18:20:00] | laga: | deepdelver: type 'man mount' and hit return. without the quotes. |
| [18:20:00] | deepdelver: | that i get +- 200 pages of shit |
| [18:20:00] | deepdelver: | it's more like the trillogy of the lord of the rings |
| [18:20:00] | deepdelver: | :P |
| [18:20:00] | Tommck: | deepdelver – jesus f-ing christ man.. we aren't going to spoon feed you like a child |
| [18:21:00] | deepdelver: | i dont ask |
| [18:21:00] | deepdelver: | i ask what would you do |
| [18:21:00] | deepdelver: | stop with this shit |
| [18:21:00] | deepdelver: | or try knoppmyth |
| [18:21:00] | laga: | deepdelver: i would read this page. |
| [18:21:00] | deepdelver: | or go further with fedora |
| [18:21:00] | Tommck: | you want to know how to mount a hard drive? that has nothing to do with Myth or Knoppmyth.. |
| [18:21:00] | Tommck: | it's a basic linux/unix question. |
| [18:22:00] | laga: | deepdelver: or read the manpage of 'fstab'. or just fire up your favoruite editor and edit /etc/fstab |
| [18:22:00] | deepdelver: | yeah i know but i need ir |
| [18:22:00] | deepdelver: | it |
| [18:22:00] | Tommck: | so go figure it out, we're not your friggin help desk |
| [18:22:00] | Beirdo: | Tommck: who pissed in yer cornflakes? :) |
| [18:23:00] | Tommck: | my cat |
| [18:23:00] | Krazylegz: | You'll never get that smell out. |
| [18:23:00] | deepdelver: | ah... |
| [18:23:00] | deepdelver: | i see |
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| [18:23:00] | deepdelver: | now i give up |
| [18:23:00] | Tommck: | Beirdo – it's just getting ridiculous.. next he'll be asking us how to format a CD-RW |
| [18:23:00] | deepdelver: | for today cause this make me crazy whole the day googlen |
| [18:24:00] | Beirdo: | reading some Linux HOWTOs might help |
| [18:24:00] | deepdelver: | going to shoot some basterds on counter strike source :P |
| [18:24:00] | deepdelver: | yeah i see you later |
| [18:24:00] | deepdelver: | thnx |
| [18:24:00] | deepdelver: | bye |
| [18:24:00] | Beirdo: | have fun |
| [18:25:00] | deepdelver: | thnx |
| [18:26:00] | laga: | that's the problem. the really cool guys prefer enemy territory. |
| [18:27:00] | laga: | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20050815 <- heh. |
| [18:28:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
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| [18:38:00] | ** xris wonders if kormoc forgot to set his alarm again ** | |
| [18:39:00] | laga: | he seems to be a very reliable minion ;) |
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| [18:43:00] | Beirdo: | there he is :) |
| [18:44:00] | riksta: | anyone here got the IR blaster to work in the pvr 150 to change a cable box channel |
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| [19:00:00] | xris: | laga: he's reliable. just needs a new alarm clock |
| [19:02:00] | laga: | heh |
| [19:02:00] | laga: | should use his cell phone |
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| [19:20:00] | xris: | laga: that's broken, too |
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| [19:32:00] | CCFL_Man: | where is the front end application file stored? |
| [19:35:00] | Tommck: | "which mythfrontend" |
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| [19:41:00] | _donofrio: | anyone know why my knoppmyth install wasn't able to "add channels" but I could see static so I knew my pcibt card was working? |
| [19:46:00] | CCFL_Man: | Tommck: n/m |
| [19:46:00] | CCFL_Man: | Tommck: i'm installing mythtv on my xbox |
| [19:48:00] | _donofrio: | the python script for xbmc or full myuthtv frontend with bloated linux and all? |
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| [20:07:00] | robin_: | I have one PVR-150, and like to add another 500. Should a new HDD be fast enough to record 3 shows at once ? |
| [20:07:00] | robin_: | I dont'have raid |
| [20:09:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [20:09:00] | Beirdo: | unless you have really sucky drives |
| [20:10:00] | Beirdo: | most current drives do about 45–60Mbytes/s |
| [20:10:00] | Beirdo: | PVR150 tops out at what, 9Mbit/s? |
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| [20:11:00] | robin_: | Beirdo: well 12mbit's maybe higher |
| [20:11:00] | robin_: | at least 12.. |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | still |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | that's 1.5Mbyte/s |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | and I don't think you'll see any/much difference from 6Mbit and 12Mbit |
| [20:12:00] | robin_: | yes 4.5 MB/s |
| [20:12:00] | robin_: | but |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | huh? |
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| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | oh right |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | *3 |
| [20:13:00] | robin_: | yes :) |
| [20:13:00] | Beirdo: | so about 1/10 the bandwidth of current drives |
| [20:13:00] | Beirdo: | at worst |
| [20:13:00] | robin_: | but, it is not in one file of course.. So the drivers head is switching continuously |
| [20:13:00] | Beirdo: | whatever |
| [20:13:00] | Beirdo: | it's not an issue, move on |
| [20:14:00] | robin_: | yeah yeah |
| [20:14:00] | robin_: | ok |
| [20:14:00] | Beirdo: | I routinely push 3 PVR-250 recordings simultaneously over ethernet and read one back |
| [20:14:00] | robin_: | ok |
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| [20:14:00] | Beirdo: | and 100Mbit ethernet is WAY slower than current drives |
| [20:15:00] | robin_: | true |
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| [20:18:00] | FITH: | cache on the drive will make the track switching disappear as well (since the drive will be clearing cache faster then you are filling it) |
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| [20:18:00] | swim: | hiyah |
| [20:18:00] | ** FITH notices the horse is dead... gives it one more kick, then stops beating it. ** | |
| [20:20:00] | swim: | ive got two video out cards to choose from one is a matrox g400 dual (which I hear is good for tv out, but I dont have a proper cable) and the other... heh Im actually trying to figure out what it is, but I think its an older nvidia (asus agp-v6800ddr) which has composite out (what I want to use is composite) |
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| [20:43:00] | juski: | I'm following the instructions on how to compile mythtv from source (on Gentoo)... and on the bit where it says "check that there has been a link created in /usr/lib/qt3/mkspecs (/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs for Debian) called default" I've got no 'default' link in /usr/qt/3/mkspecs – is this right? |
| [20:46:00] | juski: | though I don't get the compiler complaining the only problem is that it gets all the way through compilation and says "nothing to do for all" |
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| [20:49:00] | keith_: | dhofstra, you here? |
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| [20:51:00] | juski: | anyhoo I've just set it off again, but this time I'm logging all the terminal output |
| [20:53:00] | syle: | i prefer to compile it from sources my first time ever doing it |
| [20:53:00] | syle: | understand whats going on |
| [20:53:00] | syle: | then rpm's from then on lol |
| [20:53:00] | syle: | or make install, if your on fbsd |
| [20:54:00] | juski: | I normally just emerge everything – but I want to try other things out – 'non-standard' features ;-) |
| [20:54:00] | laga: | heya juski :) |
| [20:54:00] | juski: | hiya laga :) |
| [20:55:00] | juski: | my 1st ever compiling from scratch! |
| [20:55:00] | juski: | well not quite lol |
| [20:55:00] | laga: | heh |
| [20:55:00] | laga: | juski: all i can say: ./configure; make; make install works well for me on gentoo. |
| [20:56:00] | juski: | I did that – I didn't get any errors as such – but there were no executables to be found anywhere |
| [20:56:00] | laga: | juski: they should be in /usr/local/bin then...wait a sec, i forgot the qmake mythtv.pro step after the configure ;) |
| [20:56:00] | juski: | lol |
| [20:56:00] | juski: | I did that bit |
| [20:57:00] | juski: | I notice nobody on the forum has been in a hurry to help... same old story |
| [20:57:00] | laga: | sorry, i don't monitor the english forms anymore. let me take a look. |
| [20:57:00] | juski: | that wasn't a dig at you, laga :) |
| [20:58:00] | laga: | hehe ;) |
| [20:58:00] | laga: | i felt guilty anyways |
| [20:58:00] | juski: | awww |
| [20:58:00] | juski: | thankyou |
| [20:58:00] | laga: | yeah, you've got an odd problem. did you try 'make distclean'? ;) |
| [20:59:00] | laga: | juski: heh ;) |
| [20:59:00] | juski: | yep – that was the last thing I did before going to bed lastnight (well almost) |
| [20:59:00] | juski: | so maybe today it'll work |
| [20:59:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [20:59:00] | laga: | try a svn up |
| [20:59:00] | juski: | I can't leave this system switched on right now – the PSU blots out a radio station I listen to (gotta sort that out soon) |
| [21:00:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [21:00:00] | laga: | try to find their online stream ;) |
| [21:00:00] | juski: | I'll see how it goes with this, after doing the distclean last night |
| [21:00:00] | juski: | it might take a while – it's my old backend system – 800mhz athlon |
| [21:01:00] | laga: | i compile on a 700 mhz system ;). do you know about distcc or ccache? |
| [21:01:00] | juski: | not really in a big hurry for this – I wouldn't put SVN out into my livingroom (and it might not work with minimyth) |
| [21:02:00] | laga: | hehe, yep. it won't work with 0.18.1. |
| [21:02:00] | juski: | I don't know a jot about distributed compiling |
| [21:02:00] | juski: | I know precious little as it is lol |
| [21:02:00] | laga: | :> |
| [21:02:00] | laga: | it's easy ;) |
| [21:02:00] | juski: | follow the docs, the docs say.... |
| [21:02:00] | juski: | so I did... lol |
| [21:03:00] | laga: | sorry, gotta go, bbiaf |
| [21:03:00] | juski: | yeh I gotta eat |
| [21:03:00] | juski: | be back soon |
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| [21:24:00] | cortezdapimp: | anyone have a recommendation for a CID-compatible usb modem? |
| [21:24:00] | cortezdapimp: | my sister's tivo has on-screen caller id and i want it on my mythbox now lol |
| [21:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use mythtvosd with my asterisk box to send the callerID into to my screen while I'm watching stuff. Nifty stuff |
| [21:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | into = info |
| [21:28:00] | cortezdapimp: | i was reading about how to do it with mythtv |
| [21:28:00] | cortezdapimp: | but i still need a modem |
| [21:28:00] | cortezdapimp: | and my sff box doesn't have room for a pci modem |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx: I just look at my phone :) |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:28:00] | cortezdapimp: | lol |
| [21:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: I don't have a phone in every room :) And this is a simple way to do it :) |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | *cough* cordless *cough* |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Though picking up more voip phones would be nifty |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | I like my 5.8G cordless |
| [21:29:00] | cortezdapimp: | so no one uses modems anymore? |
| [21:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | screw that. I've had too many issues over the years with cordless phones |
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| [21:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: Who was the fella that sells the voip stuff in here? From Calgary or Edmonton ? I need a couple X100P(or clones) cards for an asterisk project here in the office |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | I have a 2.4G cordless i don't use anymore as it liked to fcuk up my 802.11 |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | slePP... |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | I dunno if he has those, though |
| [21:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | I suppose I could look at other cards as well . Might want to hook up 2 lines to this thing |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20050815 |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | I like |
| [21:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | HAhahaa |
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| [21:39:00] | swim: | anyone happen to know if there are nvidia drivers on the knoppmyth cd? |
| [21:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Anyone remember just how close to an expiry on the zap2it account you have to be to fill out the survey ? |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | 7 days, I think |
| [21:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | no wonder. I've got 8 days left but had no link to a survey :) |
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| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | I had 1 day when I noticed |
| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [21:42:00] | ** GreyFoxx wonders how pain it will be to compile mythfrontend only on a OpenBSD box ** | |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | try it |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | masochist |
| [21:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Just booting up my OpenBSD vm image now :) |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | probably all work well other than sockets stuff |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | but that's all wrapped in qt fun |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | so who the hell knows? |
| [21:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | I will know eventually :) |
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| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | WTF would you wanna use OpenBSD for anyways? :) |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | pffft |
| [21:44:00] | swim: | openbsd rocks |
| [21:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use it all the time, but rarely as a desktop machine |
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| [21:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm exploring it more for a friend of mine that wants to run mythfrontend on his OpenBSD desktop |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | precisely |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | "rarely as a desktop" |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | Theo-- |
| [21:45:00] | rjune: | I gotta go with Beirdo, why would you wanna run OpenBSD |
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| [21:45:00] | swim: | i think freebsd is a better desktop os |
| [21:45:00] | rjune: | anything is a better desktop OS |
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| [21:45:00] | swim: | and thats what I use mostly except for my knoppmyth box |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | OpenBSD is great for secure boxes like firewalls |
| [21:45:00] | swim: | heck yah |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | and FreeBSD I have no use for |
| [21:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use OpenBSD for a lot of stuff, but as a desktop it's sorely lacking. But in all honesty it's not really going for the desktop user "market" |
| [21:46:00] | Beirdo: | true |
| [21:46:00] | Beirdo: | or the server "market" either |
| [21:46:00] | swim: | damn Ive gotta figure out what nvidia driver will work with this damn card! asus agp-v6800ddr |
| [21:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | But there are those that do use it, my friend being one, so I don't mind taking a look at it |
| [21:46:00] | Beirdo: | especially with the bastardized NTP server they are writing |
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| [21:48:00] | Mrgoose: | hmm Beirdo, you think that slows down your internet? |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | WTF are you talking about? |
| [21:48:00] | Mrgoose: | snmp |
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| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | I don't use it over the internet |
| [21:48:00] | Mrgoose: | i see |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | nobody in their right mind would |
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| [21:49:00] | Mrgoose: | you cable or dsl? |
| [21:49:00] | harryman100: | swim: aren't nvidia drivers card indepedant (to a certain extent)? is the card very old? |
| [21:49:00] | rjune: | Mrgoose: what does ntp have to do with snmp? |
| [21:49:00] | Beirdo: | it can reveal all sorts of private information, and is hard to secure |
| [21:49:00] | Beirdo: | DSL, like it matters :) |
| [21:49:00] | rjune: | harryman100: that's a new card |
| [21:50:00] | harryman100: | rjune: yeah I thought it sounded new, it should work with the latest drivers then |
| [21:50:00] | rjune: | should |
| [21:50:00] | harryman100: | well yes, "should" is the best way to describe it |
| [21:51:00] | Beirdo: | need... sleep |
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| [21:57:00] | Tommck: | laga – you here? |
| [21:57:00] | laga: | umm |
| [21:57:00] | ** Beirdo tosses a beer at laga ** | |
| [21:57:00] | Tommck: | Do you remember those $50 Apple iBooks in Virgiia? (I think you were the one talking to me about it) |
| [21:57:00] | Beirdo: | think fast! |
| [21:58:00] | ** Tommck is drinking one right now :) ** | |
| [21:58:00] | laga: | Beirdo: dude, i already have one. |
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| [21:58:00] | laga: | Tommck: i don't even live in the USA ;) |
| [21:58:00] | Tommck: | I know... |
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| [21:58:00] | ** laga cracks it open ** | |
| [21:58:00] | Tommck: | someone said "I wish I knew someone in Virginia"... thought it was you |
| [21:58:00] | laga: | Tommck: well, i know what you're talking about |
| [21:59:00] | laga: | Tommck: no. prolly xris? *ponders* |
| [21:59:00] | Tommck: | not sure. |
| [21:59:00] | Tommck: | so, for those who don't know, it broke down to violence and had a stampede |
| [21:59:00] | Beirdo: | welcome to the USA |
| [22:00:00] | Tommck: | hehe.. http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/16/computer.frenzy.ap/index.html |
| [22:00:00] | Tommck: | my friend forgot to go get one for me :) |
| [22:00:00] | laga: | that should teach 'em not to mess with geeks |
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| [22:00:00] | laga: | beaten with a folding chair? *rotfl* |
| [22:00:00] | Tommck: | my favorite thing is the lady who pissed her pants rather than lose her place in line |
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| [22:01:00] | Tommck: | it's like professional wrestling :) |
| [22:01:00] | Beirdo: | idiots |
| [22:02:00] | laga: | Tommck: some people do that at concerts...quite disgusting ;) |
| [22:02:00] | Tommck: | nice |
| [22:02:00] | Tommck: | they should get the Stadium Pal! |
| [22:03:00] | laga: | ? |
| [22:03:00] | Tommck: | http://www.biorelief.com/store/stadiumpal.html |
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| [22:03:00] | laga: | Tommck: that's a very, very great device. |
| [22:04:00] | laga: | i should buy one |
| [22:04:00] | Tommck: | basically, it is what is called a "Texas catheter" by doctors.. |
| [22:04:00] | Tommck: | it's like a condom with a tube at the end |
| [22:04:00] | laga: | Tommck: do you know if there are hubs available? it'd be great to share the experience with your friends. |
| [22:04:00] | Tommck: | LOL |
| [22:04:00] | Tommck: | that is really funny |
| [22:04:00] | laga: | Tommck: a codnom? peeing while it being erected doesn't work well. |
| [22:05:00] | Tommck: | laga – it has adhesive on it |
| [22:05:00] | Beirdo: | children! |
| [22:05:00] | cortezdapimp (n=cortez@pool-70-20-21-80.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) Quit () | |
| [22:05:00] | Beirdo: | this is going to be searched by google! |
| [22:05:00] | Tommck: | laga – the funniest part of it all.... http://biorelief.com/images/popup/dm_male_measurement_guide.pdf |
| [22:06:00] | Beirdo: | Jeez, Tommck! |
| [22:06:00] | Tommck: | they have _sizes_... that's how you measure :) |
| [22:06:00] | Tommck: | I'm done... |
| [22:06:00] | ** laga snickers. ** | |
| [22:07:00] | laga: | sad that i don't own a printer. |
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| [22:07:00] | Tommck: | hehe |
| [22:07:00] | Tommck: | you could just get really close to your monitor :) |
| [22:08:00] | ** Beirdo gets out the cricket bat ** | |
| [22:08:00] | cortezdapimp: | lol |
| [22:08:00] | cortezdapimp: | they are 4 year old ibooks? |
| [22:08:00] | ** Tommck wonders what happened to the trout ** | |
| [22:08:00] | laga: | Tommck: rotfl |
| [22:08:00] | ** Beirdo slaps Tommck with the trout ** | |
| [22:08:00] | laga: | Tommck: they even have 'adhesive remover wipes' |
| [22:08:00] | ** laga so should stfu. ** | |
| [22:08:00] | Tommck: | lol |
| [22:08:00] | swim: | anyone know if knoppmyth iso has nvidia drivers? |
| [22:08:00] | juski: | oh heck what did I just walk in on? lol |
| [22:09:00] | Tommck: | laga – checked out the diagrams in the FAQ? ;) |
| [22:09:00] | laga: | Tommck: not yet |
| [22:09:00] | cortezdapimp: | yes laga |
| [22:09:00] | laga: | swim: when i tried it a year ago or so, the drivers were located in /usr/src and you had to build them |
| [22:09:00] | juski: | is it mother-in-law birthday present time again? |
| [22:09:00] | xris: | laga: I'm in seattle. totally the other side of the country. |
| [22:09:00] | cortezdapimp: | on an installed system they're in /usr/src |
| [22:10:00] | swim: | ok cool thx laga |
| [22:15:00] | juski: | laga: |
| [22:15:00] | juski: | compiling didn't finish after all – I get this: |
| [22:15:00] | juski: | make[1]: Entering directory `/downloads/mythtv/config' |
| [22:15:00] | juski: | make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. |
| [22:15:00] | juski: | make[1]: Leaving directory `/downloads/mythtv/config' |
| [22:16:00] | harryman100: | juski: Nothing to be done for `all'. means that it's all already compiled |
| [22:16:00] | laga: | juski: well. |
| [22:16:00] | laga: | juski: look at the Makefile in config/ |
| [22:16:00] | laga: | juski: there isn't anything that is to be done ;) |
| [22:17:00] | juski: | ahh |
| [22:17:00] | juski: | LOL |
| [22:17:00] | juski: | doing a make install now |
| [22:17:00] | juski: | duh |
| [22:18:00] | beavis: | any idea why my .htaccess in mythweb doesn't work? I've set AllowOverride to all and there is a .htpasswd. so it should work |
| [22:18:00] | Riff-Raff: | see httpd logs |
| [22:18:00] | harryman100: | beavis: I had that problem, then it turned out I had two httpd.conf and I was editing the wrong one... |
| [22:19:00] | beavis: | harryman100: i even didn't touch my httpd.conf |
| [22:19:00] | beavis: | apache2 |
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| [22:19:00] | beavis: | so i hope it's only /etc/apache2/sites-available/default |
| [22:20:00] | juski: | grrr.. mythtv-setup not found |
| [22:20:00] | Tommck: | "Shut up Beavis... don't make me kick your ass!" :) |
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| [22:21:00] | beavis: | Tommck: anyone still knows them ;) |
| [22:21:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:21:00] | Tommck: | uh huh huh |
| [22:21:00] | Beirdo: | "shut up, butthead. don't make me kick you in the nads again!" |
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| [22:21:00] | juski: | hmm... if I enter mythtv-setup from my ssh session it'll say "cannot connect to X server" – reasonable |
| [22:22:00] | juski: | yet if I try it from a terminal on the actual machine it says command not found (?!) |
| [22:22:00] | kormoc: | juski, you need to ssh with -Y (ssh -Y juski@blah) to enable trusted x forwarding |
| [22:22:00] | kormoc: | and maybe try mythsetup? |
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| [22:23:00] | Krazylegz: | juski: You can also just enter the full path to it, or add it to your path. |
| [22:24:00] | juski: | trying to find where it is now |
| [22:24:00] | juski: | eh? it's in /usr/local/bin |
| [22:25:00] | juski: | and /usr/local/bin is in $PATH |
| [22:25:00] | Krazylegz: | Did you try /usr/local/bin/mythtv-setup ? |
| [22:26:00] | juski: | just did – TADA! |
| [22:29:00] | ** juski feels very silly now ** | |
| [22:33:00] | juski: | okee, so now I just add /usr/local/bin to my $PATH variable properly, yes? |
| [22:33:00] | laga: | juski: umm. |
| [22:33:00] | laga: | juski: root doesnt have it ins his path, but every other regular user should |
| [22:33:00] | juski: | I was logged in as root |
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| [22:34:00] | laga: | juski: su – mythtv |
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| [22:43:00] | juski: | so mythfrontend works, but it's complaining the backend is protocol 15 |
| [22:44:00] | laga: | juski: perfectly normal. you'd hace to upgrade your backend to SVN. |
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| [22:46:00] | juski: | laga: I know what it is. the previous setup is still there. I'll have to change it to talk to the local backend |
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| [22:51:00] | icedutah: | Can I manually record from the S-video of my DVR-250? I want to record something from my analog camcorder. |
| [22:51:00] | Tommck: | icedutah – cat /dev/inputDevice > file.mpg |
| [22:52:00] | icedutah: | That's it? Are you serious |
| [22:52:00] | Tommck: | yes |
| [22:52:00] | icedutah: | Makes sense since it does have a built-in mpeg decoder. |
| [22:52:00] | Beirdo: | pretty simple :) |
| [22:53:00] | laga: | icedutah: make sure to change your input to the right one, with ivtvcl. |
| [22:53:00] | icedutah: | Man...I've been looking all over for some software to use this capture card. |
| [22:53:00] | icedutah: | Thanks!!! |
| [22:56:00] | juski: | OMG I think I've inadvertently added my dbox to the original backend. I think I'll have to stop messing about & just wait for 0.19 to come out |
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| [22:57:00] | laga: | your dbox? |
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| [22:57:00] | juski: | I'm in over my head here – I should have just wiped the old system completely before starting this odyssey |
| [22:57:00] | laga: | juski: i've hard rumours that the dboxII-patch will apply to 0.18.1. |
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| [23:01:00] | geckofiend: | icedutah it's not QUITE that simple. You'll need to use the command line utilities to swtich the input over to svideo and set the capture resolution and what not |
| [23:01:00] | juski: | laga: yes I have no doubt there's such a rumour. I think I'll just leave it as it is.. can't really afford the time if I break my mythtv |
| [23:01:00] | geckofiend: | bag laga missed you comment |
| [23:01:00] | icedutah: | What's a good util to convert mpeg to divx, quicktime, or WMV? |
| [23:01:00] | geckofiend: | transcode |
| [23:01:00] | Beirdo: | or ffmpeg |
| [23:01:00] | laga: | juski: that's sad. well, bug jarod to put the dboxii-patch into 0.18.2. |
| [23:01:00] | Beirdo: | either should do it |
| [23:02:00] | icedutah: | geckofiend: and ivtvctl does all that? |
| [23:02:00] | Beirdo: | and both have their strengths and weaknesses, and both are a PAIN to deal with :) |
| [23:02:00] | geckofiend: | yeah |
| [23:02:00] | laga: | juski: but on my system, it breaks the automatic mythfilldatabase run. mythfilldatabase thinks that there is epg data for the next 7 days because the dboxII provides this data, but my analog channels are broken then ;) |
| [23:02:00] | laga: | geckofiend: heh |
| [23:03:00] | juski: | I think I should be okay if I un-configure the thingies so it doesn't know about the other backend |
| [23:03:00] | juski: | 7 days? we only get 3 days' EPG here |
| [23:03:00] | juski: | so that's another source hack to disable the EPG grabbing then |
| [23:04:00] | laga: | juski: i thought you were going to stop it? ;) |
| [23:05:00] | juski: | I'm like a dog with a bone who doesn't know how to code |
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| [23:05:00] | juski: | you seen the flipping window$ apps to control the box? they're buggy as hell, or german – and my german ain't too hot |
| [23:06:00] | juski: | anyhoo back OT |
| [23:06:00] | juski: | (on topic...) |
| [23:06:00] | laga: | juski: well, i know german quite well, but i've never used such a tool ;) |
| [23:07:00] | juski: | I only bought the damn thing so I could record the channels I get without a capture card |
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| [23:09:00] | Beirdo: | laga is a German tool :) hehe |
| [23:09:00] | ** Beirdo slaps himself ** | |
| [23:09:00] | feiowjer: | howdy |
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| [23:10:00] | feiowjer: | anyone playing with a dct 6200 in here? |
| [23:11:00] | laga: | Beirdo: very, very corny ;) |
| [23:11:00] | Beirdo: | yeah well |
| [23:12:00] | juski: | I just hope that the database confabulation the old frontend did hasn't broken anything |
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| [23:55:00] | swim: | anyone use knoppmyth? after a successful install on hda the thing doesnt boot just has a cursor blinking sitting on a black screen |
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