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| [00:08:00] | Beirdo: | Ahoy there, Cardoe |
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| [00:17:00] | cosmo_: | if I were to make a diskless frontend, about how beefy of a machine will I need? Is the decoding done on the frontend or the backend?\ |
| [00:17:00] | kormoc: | cosmo_, decoding to watch is done on the frontend |
| [00:17:00] | laga: | on the frontend |
| [00:17:00] | ** laga inserts the boot floppy into his diskless frontend ;) ** | |
| [00:18:00] | kormoc: | cosmo_, for how beefy, it depends on what you are watching (hd or sd) and what videocard you have in it. |
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| [00:21:00] | cosmo_: | rats, maybe I cant use this old 200mhz, or this old 400 mhz, guess I'll just have to build the box and look at the performance, thanks |
| [00:21:00] | Beirdo: | sorry did I miss anything? |
| [00:23:00] | kormoc: | cosmo_, likly you can't, no |
| [00:23:00] | kormoc: | and by likly, I mean very very likly no |
| [00:24:00] | cosmo_: | unless I use a hardware decoder? |
| [00:25:00] | kormoc: | well, if all you are watching is mpeg-2 and you are using a 350, *maybe* it would work, |
| [00:25:00] | kormoc: | with a nvidia card with xvmc... very doubtful imho |
| [00:25:00] | kormoc: | with a card without xvmc... very likly not. |
| [00:25:00] | tstm: | What kind of cheap hardware (and quiet!) would you guys recommend for a myth frontend (preferably HDTV-capable) |
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| [00:25:00] | tstm: | ? |
| [00:25:00] | kormoc: | tstm, cheap and hdtv don't really go together :P |
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| [00:27:00] | tstm: | kormoc: Well, I'm going to use a DVB-card. And XvMC doesen't quite cut it, at least not in quality. |
| [00:27:00] | kormoc: | xvmc is only a method of using some of the hardware to decode the video, it should never affect quality |
| [00:27:00] | tstm: | I was wondering, could a Mac Mini be used with myth? |
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| [00:28:00] | kormoc: | yes, it can, but it's really flaky iirc |
| [00:28:00] | tstm: | Oh. =/ |
| [00:28:00] | kormoc: | and I don't think the Mac Mini can do hdtv |
| [00:29:00] | tstm: | Yeah, that can very well be true.. though it does have an XvMC capable video card? |
| [00:29:00] | kormoc: | I'm not sure |
| [00:29:00] | tstm: | Hmm. I had the impression you cannot much affect the deinterlace- or other filters when you use XvMC so the quality isn't as good. |
| [00:30:00] | tstm: | But, I haven't tested any, so I can't be sure. |
| [00:30:00] | kormoc: | I'm realtively certain that you can, and that the filters are applyed before it gets set out to the card to be displayed, tho I could be totally mistaken. |
| [00:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | man this sucks. dhcpcd doesn't like the bootfile name when writing out the DHCP info from a dhcp request... arrggghhhh. That would have made this script trivial. I'll just have to scrap it and make the user have to do it manually |
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| [00:37:00] | PITABoy: | hey |
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| [00:41:00] | PITABoy: | i got my tv tuner working a PVR 350 but all i get is black |
| [00:41:00] | PITABoy: | how do i get it to get tv |
| [00:41:00] | PITABoy: | it is pluged into the cable |
| [00:41:00] | kormoc: | how do you know your tuner is working if you don't get a picture? |
| [00:41:00] | PITABoy: | because it records |
| [00:42:00] | PITABoy: | cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg |
| [00:42:00] | kormoc: | that doesn't mean the tuner is working |
| [00:42:00] | kormoc: | that just means the card is detected |
| [00:42:00] | PITABoy: | oh |
| [00:42:00] | PITABoy: | how do i get it working |
| [00:42:00] | kormoc: | what does dmesg say about ivtv? |
| [00:42:00] | PITABoy: | how do i do a dmesg |
| [00:42:00] | kormoc: | type dmesg |
| [00:42:00] | PITABoy: | just type dmsg? |
| [00:42:00] | PITABoy: | ok |
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| [00:43:00] | kormoc: | notice any errors or anything that looks wrong? |
| [00:43:00] | PITABoy: | ivtv: Timeout waiting for data! Encoder buffers have 0x00000000 bytes. |
| [00:44:00] | kormoc: | how much ram does your computer have? |
| [00:44:00] | PITABoy: | 2gigabytes |
| [00:44:00] | kormoc: | did it detect the card correctly? |
| [00:44:00] | PITABoy: | i think so |
| [00:45:00] | PITABoy: | how do i find out |
| [00:45:00] | kormoc: | look in the dmegs you just ran, it should say somewhere that it detected a 350 |
| [00:46:00] | PITABoy: | it doesnt say anything about that |
| [00:46:00] | kormoc: | can you copy and paste your entire ivtv section of your dmesg and post it to http://www.pastebin.ca ? |
| [00:47:00] | PITABoy: | sure |
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| [00:49:00] | PITABoy: | http://pastebin.com/334149 |
| [00:49:00] | kormoc: | ahh, what happened is the ivtv startup was pushed beyond the end of the dmesg |
| [00:50:00] | PITABoy: | so what do i do should i reboot my pc and see if it loads? |
| [00:50:00] | kormoc: | rmmod ivtv |
| [00:50:00] | kormoc: | modprobe ivtv |
| [00:50:00] | kormoc: | dmesg |
| [00:50:00] | kormoc: | and then you'll see the startup |
| [00:52:00] | PITABoy: | yep it reconised it |
| [00:52:00] | PITABoy: | http://pastebin.com/334150 |
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| [00:53:00] | kormoc: | saa7115: now setting Composite input |
| [00:53:00] | kormoc: | you likly have to tell it to use the tuner rather then the composite input |
| [00:53:00] | PITABoy: | ok how do i do that |
| [00:54:00] | kormoc: | ivtvctl -a -d /dev/video0 |
| [00:54:00] | kormoc: | one of the inputs will be tuner0 |
| [00:54:00] | kormoc: | then type |
| [00:54:00] | kormoc: | ivtvctl -d /dev/video0 -p input_number_tuner_0_is |
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| [00:55:00] | kormoc: | and then try your mplayer /dev/video0 and see if it's working |
| [00:56:00] | PITABoy: | mplayer doesnt like it |
| [00:57:00] | kormoc: | well, whatever you do to test it |
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| [00:59:00] | PITABoy: | well that is better now it is snow |
| [01:00:00] | PITABoy: | noiw i have to figure out how to use it in mythtv |
| [01:00:00] | kormoc: | try running ptune -d /dev/video0 channel_number_you_know_is_good |
| [01:00:00] | PITABoy: | i dont have ptune |
| [01:01:00] | kormoc: | what distro are you using? |
| [01:01:00] | PITABoy: | gentoo |
| [01:01:00] | kormoc: | emerge -s ptune |
| [01:01:00] | Mrgoose: | Beirdo |
| [01:01:00] | kormoc: | and then emerge the one it matches |
| [01:08:00] | PITABoy: | it is working |
| [01:08:00] | PITABoy: | now i need to see if it works in mythtv |
| [01:09:00] | PITABoy: | it is really fuzzy |
| [01:13:00] | kormoc: | try playing with the cable to the card, make sure it's tightly connected and what not |
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| [01:15:00] | k-man_: | morning all |
| [01:16:00] | k-man_: | has anyone managed to get mythtv working in twinview or using dual head? |
| [01:16:00] | k-man_: | so myth is on one screen and X is on the other screen? |
| [01:16:00] | k-man_: | and also, the screen that myth is on is the TV? |
| [01:18:00] | xris: | k-man_: or run X on both, and put myth on one screen and everything else on the other? |
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| [01:21:00] | PITABoy: | i fixed it my stupid splitter that i got from radioshack doesnt work |
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| [01:24:00] | kormoc: | k-man_, or just use two screen sections in your xorg config and do DISPLAY=:0.1 mythfrontend |
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| [01:36:00] | Agrajag-: | k-man_: here's my x config for doing exactly what you just said: http://home.whatsbeef.net:1339/~filip/XF86Config-4 |
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| [01:58:00] | abarbaccia: | hello all – hows it goin |
| [02:09:00] | hadeees: | whats the chip on the first pvr-250 that is supported well? |
| [02:09:00] | hadeees: | i am trying to do an ebay search for the orginal pvr-250 cards |
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| [02:16:00] | abarbaccia: | hadeees, they are all supported well |
| [02:16:00] | abarbaccia: | with almost no issue you can get any hauppauge pvr-x50 working |
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| [02:24:00] | hadeees: | abarbaccia, not what i just heard about the pvr 150 |
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| [02:28:00] | abarbaccia: | hadeees, from what sources? |
| [02:28:00] | abarbaccia: | hadeees, its VERY easy now a days to get the pvr-150 working with ivtv 0.3.x - |
| [02:28:00] | NightBird: | hm... |
| [02:28:00] | NightBird: | hey, what tv tuner card should I get? |
| [02:29:00] | mchou: | hadeees: the only issue is getting different cards to all work together w/ivtv. |
| [02:29:00] | mchou: | otherwise there is no issue. |
| [02:30:00] | mchou: | hadeees: you better tell us the source for this info cause we are dying to know. |
| [02:31:00] | NightBird: | a pvr 150? |
| [02:31:00] | mchou: | NightBird: sure. |
| [02:31:00] | mchou: | why not? |
| [02:31:00] | NightBird: | just asking for a good suggestion |
| [02:31:00] | NightBird: | not the MCE version, right? |
| [02:32:00] | abarbaccia: | NightBird, they both work fine |
| [02:32:00] | NightBird: | oh yeah? |
| [02:32:00] | mchou: | makes no difference in terms of working. different features though. |
| [02:32:00] | NightBird: | I remember people saying they have problems getting the MCE version working |
| [02:32:00] | mchou: | like radio vs irblaster and whatnot. |
| [02:32:00] | NightBird: | and I don't have too much linux experience, so... |
| [02:33:00] | mchou: | NightBird: that's ancient history. |
| [02:33:00] | NightBird: | hm... |
| [02:33:00] | NightBird: | so I should just look for a cheapish WinTV pvr 150, and you guys will help me set up the card regardless of which one I'll get? :P |
| [02:34:00] | mchou: | support cost $95/hr. |
| [02:34:00] | NightBird: | ow |
| [02:34:00] | mchou: | hehe |
| [02:34:00] | mchou: | that's a discount rate just for you. |
| [02:34:00] | NightBird: | so nice |
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| [02:35:00] | ** NightBird pokes around on ebay as well... ** | |
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| [02:41:00] | [Klatuu]: | finally |
| [02:41:00] | [Klatuu]: | livetv is working |
| [02:43:00] | mchou: | lol. [Klatuu] STILL working on this? |
| [02:43:00] | mchou: | lordy! |
| [02:43:00] | mchou: | It's been like 2 months at least. |
| [02:43:00] | [Klatuu]: | no |
| [02:43:00] | [Klatuu]: | longer |
| [02:43:00] | [Klatuu]: | I took a sabbatical |
| [02:44:00] | mchou: | haha! |
| [02:44:00] | mchou: | sabbatical from myth? |
| [02:44:00] | [Klatuu]: | yes |
| [02:44:00] | [Klatuu]: | for awhile everytime I loaded the ivtv module my box would reboot |
| [02:44:00] | [Klatuu]: | so I gave up for awhile |
| [02:44:00] | mchou: | [Klatuu]: you're too funny. |
| [02:44:00] | [Klatuu]: | then I figured out what was wrong |
| [02:44:00] | [Klatuu]: | and it is working again |
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| [02:45:00] | hadeees: | mchou, other people in this channel |
| [02:46:00] | mchou: | hadeees: that's rather nonspecific. |
| [02:46:00] | [Klatuu]: | something in my kernel config was causing my box to reboot when I loaded ivtv |
| [02:46:00] | mchou: | hadeees: maybe you got your info from [Klatuu] :) |
| [02:46:00] | [Klatuu]: | I don't know what it is yet |
| [02:47:00] | hadeees: | mchou, hehe, i can't remember the nicks sorry, anyway i know nothing about these new cards, so buying a pvr-150 should be a simple setup right |
| [02:47:00] | hadeees: | ivtv auto detects everything right |
| [02:47:00] | mchou: | yup. |
| [02:47:00] | [Klatuu]: | now it does |
| [02:47:00] | ** [Klatuu] remembers the days ** | |
| [02:47:00] | [Klatuu]: | when you needed options for the modules |
| [02:48:00] | mchou: | [Klatuu]: you never NEEDed options for modules. |
| [02:48:00] | hadeees: | mchou, i did for m179s |
| [02:48:00] | mchou: | autodetect worked well for me, and I had it up even b4 you considered using ivtv. |
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| [02:48:00] | [Klatuu]: | dare I mess with the recording profiles |
| [02:49:00] | mchou: | hadeees: only tuner= |
| [02:49:00] | mchou: | I never needed for m179. |
| [02:49:00] | mchou: | hadeees: dunno what you're talking about. |
| [02:49:00] | hadeees: | mchou, are you kidding me? i could never get ivtv to set the right tuner |
| [02:49:00] | hadeees: | i still can't |
| [02:50:00] | mchou: | hadeees: no, I'm not kidding you. |
| [02:50:00] | hadeees: | thats why i gave up and am buying better cards |
| [02:51:00] | ** NightBird ebays for a pvr-350 card.. ** | |
| [02:51:00] | mchou: | hadees: I dunno what you're talking about |
| [02:51:00] | NightBird: | hm... $50... |
| [02:52:00] | NightBird: | hm... no card though |
| [02:52:00] | NightBird: | er... |
| [02:52:00] | NightBird: | no remote |
| [02:52:00] | NightBird: | card only |
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| [02:53:00] | mchou: | hadeees: #options ivtv tuner=2,2 (that's my only line for m179 |
| [02:53:00] | mchou: | in modprobe.conf. |
| [02:53:00] | mchou: | NightBird: $50 is a good deal for 350 |
| [02:53:00] | NightBird: | yeah... |
| [02:54:00] | NightBird: | I would like the remote though.... but I'm sure I could do without... |
| [02:55:00] | mchou: | NightBird: lol, you looking at this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/Hauppauge-PVR-350-WinTV-P . . . cmdZViewItem |
| [02:55:00] | NightBird: | probably |
| [02:55:00] | mchou: | there's 5 days of bidding left! |
| [02:55:00] | NightBird: | there are only 3 or 4 pvr 350's on ebay |
| [02:55:00] | NightBird: | yeah |
| [02:55:00] | NightBird: | I'm sure it will get up there |
| [02:55:00] | mchou: | 14 bids already on that one. I can tell you the final price wont be anywhere near $50 :) |
| [02:56:00] | ** NightBird nods ** | |
| [02:56:00] | ** NightBird looks for 250's as well ** | |
| [02:56:00] | xris: | what's wrong with the 150? |
| [02:56:00] | mchou: | exactly. |
| [02:56:00] | NightBird: | heh |
| [02:56:00] | NightBird: | yeah |
| [02:57:00] | mchou: | xris: we keep on asking that but get no real answer. |
| [02:57:00] | mchou: | hehe :) |
| [02:57:00] | jonK: | It's a closely guarded secret |
| [02:57:00] | mchou: | hehe |
| [02:57:00] | mchou: | jonK: heh, you like the chair? |
| [02:57:00] | xris: | I mean, the 350 SUCKS (not to mention being overpriced) unless you absolutely NEED the video output. |
| [02:57:00] | NightBird: | here's a 150.... for $9.99... |
| [02:57:00] | NightBird: | 3 days left... |
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| [02:58:00] | mchou: | NightBird: starting price dont mean jack :) |
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| [02:58:00] | NightBird: | it already has 2 bids... |
| [02:58:00] | xris: | or you could spend $65 or so from buy.com (don't forget the $5 coupon) and have it from a reputable dealer |
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| [02:58:00] | mchou: | xris: exactly :) |
| [02:58:00] | NightBird: | true |
| [02:58:00] | xris: | NightBird: and 3 days left. like 80% of the price happens in the last hour or two |
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| [02:59:00] | NightBird: | yeah |
| [02:59:00] | NightBird: | the $5 cupon? |
| [02:59:00] | mchou: | xris: more like the last 10 minutes :) |
| [02:59:00] | xris: | NightBird: check around at places like fatwallet for coupon codes |
| [02:59:00] | NightBird: | ah |
| [03:00:00] | NightBird: | hm... |
| [03:00:00] | NightBird: | yeah, here's a PVR 150 MCE for 66 w/o coupon |
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| [03:00:00] | xris: | NightBird: that's about what it should cost |
| [03:01:00] | xris: | mind you, no remote with the mce |
| [03:01:00] | NightBird: | :-\ |
| [03:01:00] | xris: | but you get the better audio plugs. |
| [03:01:00] | NightBird: | true |
| [03:01:00] | NightBird: | and I'm buying a wireless keyboard and mouse |
| [03:01:00] | mchou: | NightBird: make sure you get IR |
| [03:01:00] | NightBird: | so does the 150 MCE do output as well as input? |
| [03:01:00] | mchou: | not RF :) |
| [03:01:00] | NightBird: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16823126168 << thats the one I'm looking into getting |
| [03:02:00] | mchou: | NightBird: that's just a waste of money. |
| [03:02:00] | mchou: | is this for a tv or computer? |
| [03:02:00] | xris: | NightBird: you don't WANT output unless you have a crappy-ass machine. output from the 350 is limited to mpeg2, which means you don't get anything other than tv... no avi files, etc. |
| [03:02:00] | NightBird: | for the pvr box |
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| [03:03:00] | xris: | mchou: I use something like that one. |
| [03:03:00] | NightBird: | heh |
| [03:03:00] | xris: | granted, I put a staple through the cable for my rf remote |
| [03:03:00] | mchou: | NightBird: then that's the wong kb/mouse to get. |
| [03:03:00] | mchou: | wrong* |
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| [03:04:00] | ** NightBird is thinking of trying to install myth ontop of an ubuntu installation.. ** | |
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| [03:04:00] | NightBird: | mchou, yeah, but going IR is a good $60 increase |
| [03:05:00] | mchou: | huh?? |
| [03:05:00] | xris: | you'd think that IR would be cheaper. heh |
| [03:05:00] | NightBird: | on newegg anyways |
| [03:05:00] | mchou: | screw newegg. |
| [03:05:00] | NightBird: | the only ir keyboard and mouse combination they have is 85 |
| [03:05:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [03:05:00] | mchou: | some selection :) |
| [03:06:00] | ** xris doesn't see why IR is better than RF. ** | |
| [03:06:00] | xris: | if you want a keyboard, RF is FAR more versatile |
| [03:06:00] | mchou: | huh??? |
| [03:06:00] | mchou: | versatile in what sense? |
| [03:06:00] | xris: | well, "doesn't need line of sight" comes to mind |
| [03:06:00] | NightBird: | what problem would occure if I used RF instead of IR? |
| [03:06:00] | mchou: | xris: how often you stp outside the room? |
| [03:07:00] | mchou: | step* |
| [03:07:00] | mchou: | while watching..... |
| [03:07:00] | xris: | mchou: I keep my keyboard and mouse in rather separate locations. |
| [03:07:00] | xris: | since I rarely use the mouse. |
| [03:07:00] | mchou: | are ANY of your AV equipment RF? |
| [03:07:00] | xris: | only so many places you can put a receiver — I personally like to keep mine out of sight. |
| [03:07:00] | xris: | mchou: wouldn't you laugh if I had BOSE eq. |
| [03:08:00] | mchou: | xris: I would. |
| [03:08:00] | xris: | actually, a lot of high-end AV stuff these days is starting to use rf. |
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| [03:08:00] | xris: | mchou: well, aside from the fact that bose av stuff is a joke. |
| [03:08:00] | NightBird: | dinner time |
| [03:09:00] | Chutt: | xris, hey |
| [03:09:00] | xris: | ? |
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| [03:09:00] | PITABoy: | hey |
| [03:09:00] | Chutt: | know how to restrict trac to non-anon access? |
| [03:09:00] | PITABoy: | i got everything working but now i get this error |
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| [03:10:00] | PITABoy: | Could not connect to the master backend server — is it running? Is the IP address set for it in the setup program correct? |
| [03:10:00] | xris: | yeah, just restrict the whole webserver. heh. |
| [03:11:00] | xris: | or the whole trac path |
| [03:11:00] | Chutt: | that's busted |
| [03:11:00] | xris: | PITABoy: I hardly call that "everything working" |
| [03:11:00] | Chutt: | see the most recent change in trac |
| [03:11:00] | xris: | Chutt: you want to restrict the whole thing, right? |
| [03:11:00] | Chutt: | no |
| [03:11:00] | PITABoy: | it was working but after a reboot i get that |
| [03:12:00] | Chutt: | i want "anonymous" to not be able to modify a ticket |
| [03:12:00] | xris: | oh... that's easy enough... trac admin permissions list |
| [03:12:00] | xris: | trac-admin, that is. |
| [03:12:00] | xris: | there's a TICKET_MODIFY permission |
| [03:12:00] | Chutt: | no |
| [03:13:00] | Chutt: | that'll not let anyone but a developer modify a ticket |
| [03:13:00] | xris: | correct. you said not logged-in. |
| [03:13:00] | Chutt: | no, i said non-anon |
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| [03:13:00] | xris: | there's no way that I know of to prevent a specific userid from doing stuff. |
| [03:13:00] | Chutt: | someone who enters something in the id field's fine, even if they're not logged in |
| [03:13:00] | xris: | that I know of, anyway. |
| [03:14:00] | [Klatuu]: | hrmmm |
| [03:14:00] | xris: | cmlenz on #trac (gone atm) is in charge of ticket stuff... he'd be the one who knows. |
| [03:14:00] | xris: | I haven't messed much with trac lately.. been too busy at work |
| [03:14:00] | [Klatuu]: | this thing is so slow to change channels |
| [03:15:00] | xris: | [Klatuu]: how slow? |
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| [03:16:00] | [Klatuu]: | slow enougn to be annoying |
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| [03:16:00] | CorrosionX: | Hi peeps... my Mythtvfrontend always crashes at startup with a segfault... it used to happen at the beginning, I removed MythGame and now it happens at 0% of Pre-Scaling Images |
| [03:16:00] | [Klatuu]: | and I sense dropped frames |
| [03:17:00] | slePP: | Beirdo: am now |
| [03:18:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [03:18:00] | Beirdo: | a friend is looking for a DID in Owen Sound, ON |
| [03:18:00] | Chutt: | corrosionx, http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-21.html#ss21.2 |
| [03:18:00] | Beirdo: | 519 something |
| [03:18:00] | dougl: | my sound is gone again |
| [03:18:00] | xris: | Chutt: I asked in #trac |
| [03:19:00] | Chutt: | wonder who modemcable159.41-130–66.mc.videotron.ca is |
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| [03:22:00] | Chutt: | xris, trac's annoying me, lately |
| [03:22:00] | Chutt: | way too many missing features in the ticket system |
| [03:23:00] | Chutt: | and the lack of arbitrary version diffs is quite limiting |
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| [03:23:00] | xris: | have you looked at the "diff" branch? |
| [03:24:00] | xris: | trac is still quite young, all things considered. |
| [03:24:00] | Chutt: | i'm not going to use an unstable branch |
| [03:24:00] | Chutt: | when they still don't have their _main_ branch working properly |
| [03:24:00] | xris: | anyway, just pointing out that they're working on it. |
| [03:24:00] | xris: | supposedly |
| [03:24:00] | Chutt: | yeah, but it's pretty crappy compared to bugzilla |
| [03:24:00] | xris: | I hate bugzilla |
| [03:24:00] | xris: | it's WAY too complex |
| [03:24:00] | Chutt: | and there's been patches to fix the ticket notification emails in their bugtracking system for weeks |
| [03:25:00] | Chutt: | and they've not applied them all yet |
| [03:25:00] | Chutt: | so they rather obviously don't even use their own stuff |
| [03:25:00] | xris: | well, only 2–3 people work on it, too... |
| [03:28:00] | xris: | Chutt: http://trac-hacks.swapoff.org/wiki/AccountManagerPlugin |
| [03:29:00] | Chutt: | yeah, i really want to give user-level write access to the password file :p |
| [03:29:00] | Chutt: | that's a really crappy solution to the problem |
| [03:29:00] | xris: | yes |
| [03:29:00] | PITABoy: | mythtv works now but all channels are black |
| [03:29:00] | xris: | nonetheless, curious. |
| [03:30:00] | Chutt: | it'd be rather nice to be able to prevent anonymous abuse of things |
| [03:31:00] | xris: | Chutt: well, it *is* just the web user file.... |
| [03:31:00] | Chutt: | it's _got_ a database and the ability to send cookies, so i don't understand at all why they insist on using apache authentication |
| [03:31:00] | xris: | Chutt: "because it's more secure" (given that people won't run ssl) |
| [03:31:00] | Chutt: | xris, which contains all of our passwords |
| [03:31:00] | ** NightBird is back ** | |
| [03:31:00] | xris: | Chutt: and if it's only readable by apache, not so bad. |
| [03:32:00] | Chutt: | xris, it's only readable by apache now – if i use their user manager, i have to make it writable, too |
| [03:32:00] | xris: | yeah. and how's that worse? |
| [03:32:00] | xris: | it's just trac. |
| [03:32:00] | Chutt: | and the file is not accessable at all to the process |
| [03:33:00] | Chutt: | what if one of the developers used the same password for their actual account on the box? |
| [03:33:00] | Chutt: | but, anyway |
| [03:33:00] | xris: | that's the issue, yes.. but if the file is already readable by apache.... |
| [03:33:00] | Chutt: | it's lame |
| [03:33:00] | xris: | but htdigest doesn't store the password. |
| [03:33:00] | xris: | it stores a hash of the password, username and digest realm |
| [03:33:00] | Chutt: | bugzilla did this stuff right |
| [03:34:00] | xris: | for auth, I agree. |
| [03:34:00] | Chutt: | there's absolutely no reason trac can't do the same |
| [03:34:00] | xris: | in this case, it's a can't vs won't.... |
| [03:34:00] | xris: | or rather, "won't for now" |
| [03:34:00] | Chutt: | right |
| [03:34:00] | Chutt: | which is what's annoying :p |
| [03:35:00] | xris: | yes |
| [03:35:00] | xris: | well, jarod was supposed to be using trac to learn python... but then he had to get a new job and disappear off the face of the earth. |
| [03:35:00] | Chutt: | basically, there's no way for me to easily prevent abuse of the ticketing system |
| [03:36:00] | xris: | shouldn't be that hard to hack it so that if there's no email address attached to the username, you return an error message, no? |
| [03:36:00] | Mrgoose: | Beirdo you around? |
| [03:36:00] | Beirdo: | no |
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| [03:37:00] | xris: | it's too bad all of us dislike python so much to do it ourselves. heh. |
| [03:37:00] | Chutt: | possibly, but last i checked even the 'restrict ticket assignment to people with accounts' stuff didn't work |
| [03:38:00] | Chutt: | and i think that the stuff to get the current username/address is tied to that |
| [03:38:00] | hadeees: | Chutt, do you know if anyone ever tried getting mythtv to work inside eclipse |
| [03:38:00] | Chutt: | no |
| [03:38:00] | Chutt: | i don't use shitty ides |
| [03:39:00] | NightBird: | hey, so quick question, I won't be running into any problems if I go with a wireless RF keyboard and mouse combination, right? |
| [03:39:00] | hadeees: | Chutt, what ides do you use, or was that a general stab at ides |
| [03:40:00] | Chutt: | why the hell does it matter what i use? |
| [03:40:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [03:40:00] | Beirdo: | my IDE of choice: vim |
| [03:40:00] | hadeees: | Chutt, it doesn't |
| [03:40:00] | Chutt: | doesn't change the fact that eclipse is pretty crappy |
| [03:41:00] | hadeees: | i like it for java dev, haven't used it for anything else yet |
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| [03:47:00] | Igg-man_: | Is there a setting to change the way the transcode works? Mine does not seem to be cutting from the cutlist |
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| [03:48:00] | ** NightBird orders a video card and the case and keyboard.. ** | |
| [03:49:00] | NightBird: | er...not a video card...a capture card.. |
| [03:50:00] | Igg-man_: | Which card? |
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| [03:50:00] | NightBird: | pvr 150 mce |
| [03:50:00] | Igg-man_: | Was it cheap? |
| [03:51:00] | NightBird: | 60.99... |
| [03:51:00] | NightBird: | if I can figure out where I check out at.. |
| [03:51:00] | Igg-man_: | Okay, so the 500 is about twice that I think still |
| [03:51:00] | Igg-man_: | check out? |
| [03:52:00] | NightBird: | yeah |
| [03:52:00] | Igg-man_: | wow |
| [03:52:00] | Igg-man_: | what site is that? |
| [03:52:00] | Igg-man_: | I bought a 500 from newegg (I think) |
| [03:52:00] | NightBird: | buy.com... |
| [03:52:00] | Igg-man_: | or was it mwave |
| [03:53:00] | NightBird: | I wasn't able to find any pvr's on new egg.. |
| [03:53:00] | Igg-man_: | oh, buy has a good deal normally, but I'm scared to buy from them |
| [03:53:00] | Igg-man_: | Really? |
| [03:53:00] | ** NightBird nods ** | |
| [03:54:00] | Igg-man_: | I found some, but I havn't found the 150 yet |
| [03:54:00] | Igg-man_: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815116620 |
| [03:55:00] | NightBird: | ...hm... |
| [03:55:00] | ** NightBird ponders getting it from new egg... ** | |
| [03:55:00] | Igg-man_: | $66 |
| [03:55:00] | NightBird: | yeah, it wouldn't be with the $5 discount |
| [03:55:00] | NightBird: | but... |
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| [03:55:00] | ** NightBird trusts newegg a bit more.. ** | |
| [03:56:00] | Igg-man_: | I would too |
| [03:56:00] | Igg-man_: | buy.com might be good if you don't have to return anything |
| [03:57:00] | NightBird: | $207.41 for the card, case, and wireless keyboard+mouse |
| [03:57:00] | NightBird: | shipping is rediculus at $25 >> |
| [03:57:00] | Igg-man_: | Hmm, whatever you like |
| [03:57:00] | Igg-man_: | Do you have a mythtv box setup yet? |
| [03:57:00] | NightBird: | no |
| [03:57:00] | NightBird: | this is going to be it |
| [03:58:00] | Igg-man_: | Okay |
| [03:58:00] | NightBird: | I also like how when I try to view the order history, buy gives me a 500 server error |
| [03:58:00] | Igg-man_: | haha |
| [03:58:00] | Igg-man_: | Do you have it setup yet? |
| [03:58:00] | NightBird: | ? |
| [03:58:00] | NightBird: | the rest of the system? |
| [03:58:00] | NightBird: | no, not yet |
| [03:59:00] | NightBird: | I know the rest works well together, as most of it's worked with the rest at one point in time |
| [03:59:00] | Igg-man_: | Oh, you've done it before then? |
| [03:59:00] | NightBird: | ? |
| [04:00:00] | NightBird: | no |
| [04:00:00] | Igg-man_: | oh |
| [04:00:00] | Igg-man_: | Want some cliff notes? |
| [04:00:00] | NightBird: | I've been upgrading my primary computer |
| [04:00:00] | NightBird: | these are extra parts I've been collecting since I've been replacing them |
| [04:00:00] | NightBird: | for setting up myth? sure |
| [04:00:00] | NightBird: | I'm thinking of installing it on ubuntu |
| [04:00:00] | Igg-man_: | Hmm... first things first, get the ivtv drivers from ivtv |
| [04:00:00] | Igg-man_: | the ones in my distro didn't work |
| [04:01:00] | Igg-man_: | also, you have to remove the kernel drivers if you use the ivtv drivers |
| [04:01:00] | Igg-man_: | lets see... what else was I having problems with? |
| [04:01:00] | ** Igg-man_ talks to himself ** | |
| [04:01:00] | [Klatuu]: | what does the passthrough switch do for ivtvctl? |
| [04:02:00] | Igg-man_: | Also, power the machine off to clear out the firmware |
| [04:02:00] | NightBird: | Igg-man_, aren't the IVTV drivers for 250 and 350? |
| [04:02:00] | Igg-man_: | onces its goofed up, it doens't come back |
| [04:02:00] | Igg-man_: | I think they are the same driver now |
| [04:02:00] | Igg-man_: | mine was anyway |
| [04:02:00] | Igg-man_: | I've also got the .3 something version, not the .1 |
| [04:02:00] | Igg-man_: | never got the .1 working |
| [04:03:00] | Igg-man_: | I think it was a dev version |
| [04:03:00] | NightBird: | uh... |
| [04:03:00] | NightBird: | are you sure that isn't .2? |
| [04:04:00] | NightBird: | 0.2.0 is the latest stable release |
| [04:04:00] | NightBird: | "PVR 150 and 500 support has now been backported from the unstable branch " << I guess that means pvr 150's are supported.. |
| [04:04:00] | NightBird: | oh |
| [04:04:00] | NightBird: | the 0.3.x is the unstable version |
| [04:05:00] | Igg-man_: | Nope, I never got the stable version working |
| [04:05:00] | Igg-man_: | I used the unstable, it seemed to work just fine |
| [04:06:00] | Igg-man_: | except the 2nd tuner lost audio once |
| [04:06:00] | NightBird: | *gasp* |
| [04:06:00] | NightBird: | well, I'll try the stable one first |
| [04:06:00] | NightBird: | failing that, I'll go unstable |
| [04:07:00] | Igg-man_: | well, I have the pvr-500 (which actually detects as 2 150s) |
| [04:07:00] | Igg-man_: | Okay |
| [04:07:00] | NightBird: | ah |
| [04:07:00] | NightBird: | bbiab |
| [04:07:00] | Mrgoose: | Beirdo you around? |
| [04:07:00] | Beirdo: | I'm busy |
| [04:08:00] | Mrgoose: | sigh |
| [04:09:00] | ** NightBird needs to look into getting an svideo to composite connector ** | |
| [04:13:00] | defaultro: | nightbird why are your downgrading quality |
| [04:14:00] | defaultro: | s/your/you/ |
| [04:14:00] | NightBird: | because the only TV I personally own only accepts composite input? |
| [04:15:00] | NightBird: | the one I'll be useing at college might possibly have an s-video connector, but I won't be guarnteed that |
| [04:15:00] | NightBird: | however, I will be guarnteed a composite connection |
| [04:15:00] | Mrgoose: | anyone else here using cacti? |
| [04:18:00] | ** NightBird wonders what it will be like trying to install myth on a ubuntu box.. ** | |
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| [04:19:00] | defaultro: | mrgoose, i used cacti |
| [04:19:00] | defaultro: | but 2 yrs ago |
| [04:19:00] | defaultro: | gotcha nightbird |
| [04:19:00] | defaultro: | Beirdo uses cacti too |
| [04:19:00] | Mrgoose: | yea he's busy though |
| [04:19:00] | Mrgoose: | http://streetlevel.ath.cx/cacti/graph_view.php?action=preview , the graphs dont show up there but they show up when you click on them |
| [04:21:00] | defaultro: | i saw the problem :) |
| [04:21:00] | defaultro: | graph.php in your source is pointing to root dir of your webserver |
| [04:21:00] | defaultro: | however, the link points to cacti/graph.php |
| [04:21:00] | defaultro: | bam!!! |
| [04:21:00] | Mrgoose: | heh |
| [04:21:00] | Mrgoose: | so how would i fix that? |
| [04:22:00] | defaultro: | just modify the source and you should be able to fix that |
| [04:22:00] | Mrgoose: | modify graph.php? |
| [04:22:00] | defaultro: | give me ssh access and i will fix it, root and password too |
| [04:22:00] | dougl: | how do I uprmi to get all the updates after a new install of le2005? |
| [04:22:00] | dougl: | and if update do I have to reinstall my nvidia drivers? |
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| [04:22:00] | Mrgoose: | defaultro: ha |
| [04:22:00] | defaultro: | nope, the file that calls graph.php |
| [04:22:00] | defaultro: | trust me, am a good person |
| [04:22:00] | defaultro: | i have help a lot of people |
| [04:23:00] | defaultro: | i have copied all the /etc/passwd of all the people i have helped |
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| [04:23:00] | defaultro: | oops, wrong sentence |
| [04:23:00] | Mrgoose: | ha |
| [04:23:00] | defaultro: | lol |
| [04:23:00] | defaultro: | just kidding |
| [04:23:00] | Mrgoose: | so how do i determine which file calls graph.php |
| [04:23:00] | defaultro: | you can do it dude |
| [04:23:00] | defaultro: | do a grep graph.php *.* |
| [04:23:00] | Beirdo: | it's likely a setup thing |
| [04:23:00] | defaultro: | in cacti/ dir |
| [04:23:00] | defaultro: | yeah |
| [04:23:00] | defaultro: | it should be easier, take beirdo's route |
| [04:23:00] | defaultro: | it should be in the setup |
| [04:24:00] | Mrgoose: | yea i have my path's set correctly |
| [04:24:00] | Beirdo: | there's likely somewhere you tell it what the URL of cacti is |
| [04:24:00] | ** defaultro goes back to "setting up mythtv to install hardwood flooring" ** | |
| [04:24:00] | Beirdo: | and you likely have it wrong |
| [04:25:00] | Beirdo: | I've never seen it mess up like that for me |
| [04:25:00] | Mrgoose: | hmm |
| [04:26:00] | Mrgoose: | no option on the web interface as far as i see |
| [04:28:00] | NightBird: | hm... |
| [04:28:00] | Beirdo: | it's always worked for me. |
| [04:28:00] | ** NightBird wonders what format ubuntu chose to use... ** | |
| [04:28:00] | Mrgoose: | odd, you have any idea what file defaultro was talkin about editing? |
| [04:28:00] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [04:29:00] | Beirdo: | is there a "conf.php" or something, I can't recall |
| [04:29:00] | Mrgoose: | yes include/conf.php |
| [04:30:00] | Mrgoose: | but that only has info about the mysql database |
| [04:30:00] | Beirdo: | hmm |
| [04:30:00] | Beirdo: | maybe look around in the sql databases too |
| [04:30:00] | Beirdo: | something's not quite right, it's gotta be somewhere |
| [04:30:00] | NightBird: | hm... |
| [04:31:00] | NightBird: | I think I might stick with the knoppmyth cd I downloaded... |
| [04:31:00] | NightBird: | I like ubuntu's gui a bit more, but I shouldn't have to be using it too much since it will just be a myth box |
| [04:38:00] | Mrgoose: | not to sure how to look around sql |
| [04:46:00] | Mrgoose: | Beirdo: the zoom view dont work either |
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| [04:53:00] | Krazylegz: | I need to build a box for checking out different Linux distributions again. Somebody name the current popular distros for me. |
| [04:53:00] | Krazylegz: | QUICK! |
| [04:53:00] | Mrgoose: | Fedora, Slackware |
| [04:53:00] | Krazylegz: | Uh, Myth-content: 1. KnoppMyth. |
| [04:53:00] | NightBird: | ubuntu |
| [04:53:00] | NightBird: | red hat |
| [04:54:00] | Krazylegz: | Slack is still popular? |
| [04:54:00] | Krazylegz: | Mrgoose already said Fedora. I'm looking for desktop/small server distros. |
| [04:54:00] | NightBird: | those 2 and knoppmyth are the only linux distrobutions I have... |
| [04:54:00] | ** defaultro thinks something is weird. mythcommflag fired up and native lirc stopped working. Killed mythcommflag, and lirc started working again ** | |
| [04:54:00] | ** NightBird has red hat 4 64bit version... ** | |
| [04:55:00] | Krazylegz: | Gentoo, Slackware, Fedora, Knoppix and Ubuntu is all I can think of as popular ones. |
| [04:55:00] | NightBird: | from work |
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| [04:55:00] | Agrajag-: | debian is where it's at |
| [04:55:00] | Agrajag-: | (how can you not list debian as a popular one!! :P) |
| [04:55:00] | ** NightBird doesn't know if slack is still popular... it was one of the ones I tried early on, but.... well... ** | |
| [04:55:00] | Krazylegz: | agrajag: You mean Ubuntu, or "real" Debian? |
| [04:55:00] | NightBird: | that didn't go too well |
| [04:55:00] | Krazylegz: | Since I named two Debian-derivatives. |
| [04:55:00] | Agrajag-: | i mean real debian |
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| [04:56:00] | Krazylegz: | Nightbird: I guess Patrick is doing okay now too? |
| [04:56:00] | Agrajag-: | i dont think anyone uses slackware seriously :) |
| [04:56:00] | Krazylegz: | I stopped reading Slashdot over a year ago. |
| [04:56:00] | Krazylegz: | That's the only place I checked for tech news. |
| [04:56:00] | NightBird: | Krazylegz, what? |
| [04:57:00] | ** NightBird doesn't read slashdot... ** | |
| [04:57:00] | Krazylegz: | Nightbird: Patrick Volkerding. Mr. Slackware. |
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| [04:57:00] | NightBird: | uh.... ok... |
| [04:57:00] | NightBird: | when I tried slack, it was at least 2 years or so |
| [04:58:00] | defaultro: | tried slack 10 yrs ago :( |
| [04:58:00] | defaultro: | time is soooo fast |
| [04:58:00] | defaultro: | i'm old |
| [04:58:00] | Krazylegz: | Yeah, last time I used Slack it was a derivative known as ZipSlack. |
| [04:58:00] | ** NightBird should work on his OS some.. ** | |
| [04:58:00] | NightBird: | heh |
| [04:58:00] | Krazylegz: | I'm only 23, though. :-) |
| [04:58:00] | defaultro: | i'm old :( |
| [04:58:00] | defaultro: | can't believe |
| [04:58:00] | defaultro: | i was 23 that time |
| [04:59:00] | Mrgoose: | defaultro: any other ideas, i dont see anything |
| [04:59:00] | defaultro: | just the path |
| [04:59:00] | defaultro: | i would delete cacti and extract it |
| [04:59:00] | defaultro: | and configure from scratch again |
| [04:59:00] | Mrgoose: | yea i dont see it being defined anywhere |
| [04:59:00] | Mrgoose: | there's only one file you configure, and that just specifices the name of the mysql database |
| [05:00:00] | defaultro: | if you configured httpd.conf, that might where be it |
| [05:00:00] | defaultro: | which thinks that cacti is the root directory |
| [05:00:00] | defaultro: | like what i said, i used cacti 2 or 3 yrs ago |
| [05:00:00] | defaultro: | if i have some time tonight, i would help you but am busy looking for hardwood floors |
| [05:01:00] | ** NightBird laughs at his background... ** | |
| [05:01:00] | Mrgoose: | ok |
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| [05:02:00] | NightBird: | It's a picture of Peter from family guy being punched by the computer with the text saying "The Internet has Spoken." |
| [05:13:00] | shodan-: | where does mythvideo store the "play file after this" value and the corresponding name of the next file (or index value) ? |
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| [05:17:00] | King_TJ: | 'lo all .... I have a modeline question, if someone can be so kind as to help? |
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| [05:18:00] | King_TJ: | I'm using a 52" RCA rear-projection TV (Cinerama, as detected by X) and trying to connect an nVidia GeForce 4TI 4600 card to it via DVI cable... |
| [05:18:00] | NightBird: | I can't, because I know next to nothing about linux |
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| [05:20:00] | King_TJ: | Hmm... ok NightBird. Anyone else in here familiar with it? |
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| [05:25:00] | Krazylegz: | It's true. NightBird is a Lunix n00b. Leave him alone! |
| [05:26:00] | King_TJ: | Hehe.... I was just hoping maybe (crossing fingers) somebody had the same TV as me, or a similar model... |
| [05:26:00] | Krazylegz: | I haven't heard of anyone in here using that television, but you also haven't exactly asked a question yet. |
| [05:29:00] | King_TJ: | Krazy: Basically, I just wanted to see if someone had one working well with MythTV... If so, I'd like to know what modeline they're using with it. |
| [05:29:00] | defaultro: | hey guys, what does this sentence mean? "The general view is quality has taken a back seat this year." |
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| [05:29:00] | King_TJ: | When I try it with the nVidia "tv-out" sample XFConfig-4 file they include, I get a picture that only takes up about 50% of the screen on the left hand side of the display. |
| [05:29:00] | Krazylegz: | King_TJ: Ah. Like I said, I don't think anyone uses it. |
| [05:29:00] | Krazylegz: | I presume you already Googled? |
| [05:30:00] | defaultro: | don't use cinerama |
| [05:30:00] | defaultro: | just use simple xconfig |
| [05:30:00] | King_TJ: | Oh yeah... I had no luck, really. Found 1 guy who was in some other AV forum asking the same thing I want to know, but nobody gave him a real answer. (Some schmuck told him to get a different TV, because rear projection isn't good for gaming, etc.) |
| [05:30:00] | defaultro: | xorg.conf i mean |
| [05:32:00] | King_TJ: | Well, what resolution am I shooting for here anyway? I know my set works at 640x480 – and once, I had X working well on it that way (after like 3 days of manual tweaking), but I lost my modelines I used way back then.... |
| [05:32:00] | King_TJ: | Someone said I should really be running 720x480 — not 640x480? |
| [05:32:00] | Krazylegz: | I would think so, since you're 16:9. |
| [05:32:00] | defaultro: | what is your tv? |
| [05:33:00] | defaultro: | is it hdtv? |
| [05:33:00] | King_TJ: | This one: http://www.rca.com/product/viewdetail/0,2588,PI700525,00.html |
| [05:33:00] | defaultro: | don't want to read now |
| [05:33:00] | defaultro: | just tell us the major |
| [05:33:00] | defaultro: | 1080i supported |
| [05:33:00] | defaultro: | or 720p |
| [05:33:00] | defaultro: | and so on |
| [05:33:00] | King_TJ: | Well, that's part of what I'm unclear on. All they really say in RCA's product info is "DVI Input with HDCP – New Connectivity" |
| [05:34:00] | defaultro: | that's just an interface |
| [05:34:00] | defaultro: | like component out |
| [05:34:00] | King_TJ: | They kinda gloss over the DVI connection other than telling you it's cool because you can plug their set-top tuner into it... yadda, yadda. Says the set is "HD ready".... |
| [05:34:00] | Krazylegz: | There have to be more specs somewhere. |
| [05:34:00] | defaultro: | it should |
| [05:34:00] | defaultro: | search for resolution, not the interface |
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| [05:35:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh look, Google: http://www.hdtvpub.com/productdb/televisions/ . . . p;tvnum=1023 |
| [05:35:00] | Krazylegz: | That says that it does 1080i. |
| [05:35:00] | Krazylegz: | It also does 480p. |
| [05:36:00] | King_TJ: | Ok, thanks! My google searches didn't find that particular link for whatever reason. RCA's own web site really sucks. |
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| [05:36:00] | Uberbot: | Hi all. |
| [05:36:00] | defaultro: | so, just set your linux box to 1920x1080 resolution |
| [05:36:00] | defaultro: | that would be it |
| [05:37:00] | Uberbot: | Does anyone know how to make the OSD display longer? |
| [05:38:00] | Krazylegz: | Uberbot: So that you don't have to scroll sometimes? |
| [05:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | Uberbot: Under TV Playback |
| [05:39:00] | Uberbot: | Under tv playback, my wife would want the cid to stay on screen longer.... |
| [05:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | There is a screen related to On-Screen Display options, including the number of seconds to display it |
| [05:39:00] | King_TJ: | defaultro: <nod> That helps! I'll give that a try. Had no idea I could set the res quite that high... But also, nVidia drivers have lots of stuff you can specify in the XF86Config-4 file, such as Option "ConnectedMonitor" "TV" ... Do I need to include those, or skip 'em since I'm using the DVI connection? |
| [05:39:00] | Uberbot: | Where is this screen? I've never seen it. |
| [05:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Under "TV Playback" |
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| [05:39:00] | Uberbot: | Under Myth-setup? |
| [05:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | No, regular myth setup screens |
| [05:39:00] | defaultro: | I have an xorg.conf that i drive my hdtv at 1080i |
| [05:40:00] | Uberbot: | Ok. |
| [05:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | Tv Settings -> TV Playback |
| [05:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | that'swhere you pick the OSD theme , font size , etc |
| [05:40:00] | King_TJ: | I don't think I have an xorg.conf file though? I'm using the KnoppMyth ISO distro (www.mysettopbox.tv) ... |
| [05:41:00] | Uberbot: | I never noticed it. Thanx all. |
| [05:41:00] | ffrg: | is there mythtv or similar project for windows? |
| [05:41:00] | Krazylegz: | King_TJ: Then you have an XF86Config-4 file. |
| [05:41:00] | King_TJ: | Krazylegz: Yes, exactly. |
| [05:41:00] | Krazylegz: | Close enough. |
| [05:41:00] | Krazylegz: | What is the problem? |
| [05:42:00] | King_TJ: | No problem, I guess. Just unfamiliar with xorg.conf. Pretty much the same file format though, you say? |
| [05:42:00] | defaultro: | King, play with this, http://restricted.dyndns.org/xorg.conf.hdtv_as_crt.txt mine is a mitsubishu 448" hdtv |
| [05:42:00] | Krazylegz: | I believe so. |
| [05:42:00] | Krazylegz: | 448"! :-O |
| [05:42:00] | King_TJ: | Hehe.... BIG set. |
| [05:42:00] | defaultro: | oh lol |
| [05:43:00] | defaultro: | 48" |
| [05:43:00] | defaultro: | there is no such hdtv for home at 448" |
| [05:43:00] | defaultro: | lol |
| [05:43:00] | ffrg: | i saw the winmyth link on the site, but its a front end solution..is there a windows back end as well? |
| [05:43:00] | Krazylegz: | Pffft. I'm 5'11". That's 71". I'm bigger than your television set! |
| [05:43:00] | defaultro: | dude, look at what i wrote again, 448 inches |
| [05:43:00] | defaultro: | that's damn huge |
| [05:43:00] | Uberbot: | My wife is happy now. |
| [05:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | ffrg: nope |
| [05:44:00] | ffrg: | ic |
| [05:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | And winmyth is very very basic and some have reported stability issues |
| [05:45:00] | Krazylegz: | defaultro: But then you said 48", to which I am superior. |
| [05:45:00] | defaultro: | yep |
| [05:45:00] | defaultro: | it's really small |
| [05:45:00] | defaultro: | just 48" diagonal |
| [05:45:00] | Krazylegz: | I only have a 20". |
| [05:46:00] | defaultro: | i'm happy though with it most especially when watching hd program |
| [05:46:00] | King_TJ: | Well, my 52" set *used* to have a great picture, till my 3 year old got ahold of it. She rubbed popsicle stuff all over it... and now I have these weird green spots on the screen that won't come out. |
| [05:46:00] | defaultro: | and much more happier since myth has been supplying all my needs, lol |
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| [05:46:00] | defaultro: | lol |
| [05:47:00] | King_TJ: | I wasn't warned in advance thar you need one of those glass screen protectors if you have a kid. Figured the thing would just wipe off with some Windex.. but nope! |
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| [05:47:00] | defaultro: | mine has a plastic screen that can be removed |
| [05:47:00] | defaultro: | i did windex mine |
| [05:47:00] | King_TJ: | And that plastic "ribbed" screen on this thing costs about $300 to buy a replacement for, too. :( |
| [05:47:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [05:47:00] | defaultro: | it came with my tv though |
| [05:47:00] | kennethbr: | does anyone know if there are any plugins for softcam in mythtv using DVB? |
| [05:48:00] | defaultro: | you might get kicked kenneth |
| [05:48:00] | defaultro: | i love to learn softcam though :) |
| [05:48:00] | King_TJ: | Yeah, my set is apparently RCA's model without the screen protector over the top of it... They had another model identical except with one (that they never told me about when I went to buy this one). |
| [05:48:00] | defaultro: | ok |
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| [05:51:00] | kennethbr: | are they SO harsh here? |
| [05:51:00] | defaultro: | not really but it's logged |
| [05:52:00] | defaultro: | we don't want other lurkers to find a hole that can kill myth |
| [05:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | anything relating to softcams, torrents and the like are generally not welcome in the open channel |
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| [05:53:00] | kennethbr: | then i understand... i can't do anything to stop myth!! i love it! |
| [05:54:00] | Mrgoose: | sigh this is reallin pissin me off |
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| [05:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sweet, got the mythtv auto booting, configuring and launching off the usb stick now. All I need is to add an nvidia driver module and it's almost done |
| [05:55:00] | NightBird: | night |
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| [06:01:00] | defaultro: | cool GreyFoxx |
| [06:01:00] | defaultro: | are you saying that your linux is on a usb stick? |
| [06:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup. Mini Slackware distro that can be booted from a CD or a USB stick (which is what I'm doing now). the only config needed is a copy of mysql.txt pointing to the right mysql database being copied to the stick |
| [06:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | And at the moment it doesn't have a module for the Nvidia closedsource driver |
| [06:04:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [06:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've configured it to boot and load the contents of the stick into ram and run from there, but by default it runs off the stick |
| [06:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | welp, enough of this for tonight. bedtime |
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| [06:12:00] | Mrgoose: | Beirdo: what version are you using? |
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| [06:15:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: make sure you compile in xvmc :) |
| [06:15:00] | Drizzt321: | During playback, my video/audio sync has gotten really bad, and I am trying to figure out to resync it during playback. Anyone know? I've looked through the keyboard commands already. |
| [06:16:00] | xris: | Drizzt321: playback of..... |
| [06:16:00] | Drizzt321: | xris: recorded tv |
| [06:16:00] | Drizzt321: | xris: mpeg2, from pvr250 |
| [06:16:00] | Drizzt321: | xris: err...350 rather |
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| [06:17:00] | xris: | using the 350 output? |
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| [06:17:00] | Drizzt321: | xris: yes |
| [06:18:00] | xris: | sounds like maybe a driver issue |
| [06:18:00] | xris: | but that's just a stab in the dark |
| [06:18:00] | Drizzt321: | xris: ugh. I've used it before without issue....maybe I should try rebooting... |
| [06:18:00] | xris: | you hadn't tried that already? |
| [06:18:00] | Drizzt321: | no |
| [06:19:00] | mchou: | Drizzt321: that uptime must be valuable :) |
| [06:19:00] | Drizzt321: | hmm...I just checked syslog, seems its having some Decoder VBI messages |
| [06:19:00] | Drizzt321: | mchou: not specifically, just didn't occur to me. thats a windows way to solve problems, reboot first, then troubleshoot |
| [06:20:00] | mchou: | heh, true enough. |
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| [06:23:00] | Drizzt321: | xris: arg...no help :( |
| [06:23:00] | Drizzt321: | let me try a different recording |
| [06:28:00] | mchou: | heh, true enough. |
| [06:29:00] | mchou: | oops, sorry |
| [06:34:00] | Drizzt321: | hmmm...must just be that recording, this one seems to be just fine |
| [06:39:00] | xris: | heh. probably the card falling prey to its own issues with blank frames. |
| [06:39:00] | Drizzt321: | might be |
| [06:39:00] | xris: | same reason you can't always just remux the file to put into a dvd |
| [06:39:00] | Drizzt321: | but they are all recorded the exact same way |
| [06:39:00] | xris: | Drizzt321: that's not true... could be signal glitches, etc. |
| [06:40:00] | Drizzt321: | xris: ah, yea. |
| [06:47:00] | xris: | hmm, Beirdo's probably asleep... |
| [06:47:00] | xris: | well, no port for him. |
| [06:51:00] | EL_Whistey: | Is there any hook from mythtv to detect when it's transiting between menu-mode and play mode? |
| [06:51:00] | Krazylegz: | I love MythTV. |
| [06:52:00] | EL_Whistey: | I think it would be useful to use such a hook to turn on/off screensaver/tv-sleep mode. |
| [06:52:00] | EL_Whistey: | That is: when mythtv is in play mode, I don't want screensaver. When it is in menu mode, I do. |
| [06:54:00] | EL_Whistey: | New nvidia driver out, btw |
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| [06:57:00] | rpete: | xris, haven't spoken in a long while, but dish network couldn't get a line of sight |
| [06:57:00] | rpete: | so that was a lot of work for nothing |
| [06:57:00] | rpete: | ended up with directv + dual tuner tivo, which works for me |
| [06:59:00] | xris: | rpete: that's lame |
| [06:59:00] | xris: | but at least you got something functional |
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| [06:59:00] | rpete: | well, it would require mounting the dish on the front of the house, and the owner absolutely would not go for that |
| [07:00:00] | xris: | yeah that would have sucked. |
| [07:00:00] | EL_Whistey: | Mount the owner in front of the house. |
| [07:00:00] | EL_Whistey: | on the front |
| [07:01:00] | rpete: | well yeah, I didn't see the big deal in having the dish visible from the street, but it's not my house so whatever |
| [07:01:00] | xris: | I got a GREAT place on my house for mine. doubt my old landlord is really happy with the position of the one I left him with (back of house, but quite visible from the carport area) |
| [07:01:00] | xris: | well, like I said, at least you got something usable.. directv is better than cable. |
| [07:01:00] | xris: | probably better than dish, but more expensive. |
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| [07:04:00] | EL_Whistey: | Paint petals on it and tell him it's a desert cactus flower. |
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| [07:05:00] | rpete: | thunderstorms knock directv out here, which is annoying |
| [07:05:00] | rpete: | I can only imagine what the three-day snowstorms will do |
| [07:05:00] | EL_Whistey: | put eyes on it, and tell him it's an ancestral statue you discovered from an early tribe which discovered how to fabricate steel in parabolas. |
| [07:05:00] | xris: | rpete: they'd likely do the same to dish. |
| [07:05:00] | xris: | electrical is probably more of an issue than snow, though. |
| [07:05:00] | EL_Whistey: | tell him it's a solar bbq. |
| [07:06:00] | EL_Whistey: | tell him it's a birdbath that only collects very oblique rain. |
| [07:06:00] | xris: | heh |
| [07:07:00] | EL_Whistey: | honestly, if you decorated it, he might not have a problem with it. |
| [07:07:00] | EL_Whistey: | it's most likely that he doesn't dig the industrial grunge aesthetic. |
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| [07:09:00] | xris: | EL_Whistey: more likely he just doesn't want a big dish on the front of the house. |
| [07:09:00] | xris: | same as my old landlord, same as my wife with our house now. |
| [07:12:00] | rpete: | yeah, it was his wife who protested :-) |
| [07:12:00] | rpete: | you'd think I'd get some slack for refinishing all the hard wood floors, but no |
| [07:13:00] | xris: | damn |
| [07:15:00] | rpete: | homeownership is too much work for me, I was ready to kill myself after the floors were done |
| [07:16:00] | xris: | lol |
| [07:16:00] | xris: | I like the work. |
| [07:16:00] | xris: | my garden is my feable attempt at a summer exercise program. |
| [07:16:00] | rpete: | these two spend every spare hour working on the place, that's messed up |
| [07:16:00] | xris: | lot of work, but no weight loss. |
| [07:16:00] | xris: | yeah, that's messed up. |
| [07:22:00] | qfour20: | i can't wait to own a home |
| [07:22:00] | qfour20: | (i hope....) |
| [07:22:00] | ** rpete used to feel that way, but not now ** | |
| [07:23:00] | qfour20: | how was putting in hardwood floors? |
| [07:23:00] | ** qfour20 has *refinished* a floor, but never installed one ** | |
| [07:23:00] | rpete: | I just stripped them and refinished\ |
| [07:23:00] | xris: | rpete: that's a LOT of work. |
| [07:24:00] | rpete: | yeah it's a pita |
| [07:24:00] | xris: | (then again, so is moving 10 yards of mulch up the hill/stairs top my backyard) |
| [07:24:00] | xris: | I hope you got a sizeable reimbursement for that work. |
| [07:24:00] | qfour20: | chicka bow bow |
| [07:24:00] | rpete: | they paid for supplies |
| [07:25:00] | rpete: | anyway, I swear this guy and his wife have done a gazillion improvements in the month we've been here, can it go on indefinitely? |
| [07:26:00] | xris: | rpete: if they want it to, yes. |
| [07:26:00] | xris: | rpete: but they didn't credit you for labor? |
| [07:26:00] | xris: | that sucks. |
| [07:26:00] | xris: | any good landlord should have given a rent credit or something. |
| [07:26:00] | rpete: | you know, the apartment was this way when we moved in, there was no agreement that they'd improve the floors |
| [07:27:00] | rpete: | I just wanted something more pleasant |
| [07:27:00] | xris: | ahh, that's something else, then. |
| [07:27:00] | rpete: | but if I owned it, I'd give me a rent credit :-) |
| [07:27:00] | xris: | yes. |
| [07:28:00] | xris: | I bought my house as a project/investment... so I expect a lot of work. |
| [07:28:00] | xris: | put over $2k into my yard (granted, about $750 of that was removing tree stumps) since i moved in... |
| [07:29:00] | xris: | electrical updates, cat5 in the house... |
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| [07:29:00] | xris: | will hopefully re-sheetrock the office this winter (though that may wait until I can afford to put in some skylights. |
| [07:30:00] | rpete: | I imagine you have big home theatre plans too |
| [07:31:00] | rpete: | if this were my house, I'd rip out a few walls and buy a bunch of speakers |
| [07:41:00] | Krazylegz: | Someone needs to make some progress on LUFS. |
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| [07:46:00] | anurag: | i am having pvr 250.... whenever i try to watch TV, all I get is snowy picture |
| [07:46:00] | anurag: | i configured the machine for my zip code 90007 and cable service provider |
| [07:47:00] | anurag: | but i continue to get snowy picture |
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| [07:50:00] | anurag: | and i did check the post: http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t= . . . ight=channel |
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| [07:53:00] | EL_Whistey: | LUFS? |
| [07:53:00] | Krazylegz: | Linux Userland Filesystem. |
| [07:53:00] | EL_Whistey: | Ah, Fuse. |
| [07:53:00] | Krazylegz: | There's something new now? |
| [07:54:00] | EL_Whistey: | http://fuse.sourceforge.net/ |
| [07:54:00] | Krazylegz: | I want to be able to mount an SSH or FTP site as a filesystem. |
| [07:55:00] | EL_Whistey: | Yep. |
| [07:55:00] | EL_Whistey: | I wrote a tcl interface to fuse, so that tcl's virtual filesystems could be exported as linux fs. |
| [07:55:00] | EL_Whistey: | anyway, it's working/workable |
| [07:56:00] | Krazylegz: | Interesting. Thanks. |
| [07:57:00] | EL_Whistey: | no worries. I think userland fs are excellent. |
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| [08:00:00] | EL_Whistey: | tcl already has a bunch of very good virtual file systems, the tclfuse interface enabled me to leverage off them. |
| [08:01:00] | Krazylegz: | I'm really just interested in one for FTP right now. |
| [08:02:00] | Krazylegz: | Then I can store my downloaded videos on my workstation, which has more hard drive space. |
| [08:03:00] | anurag: | hmm people, is it possible to watch tv using mplayer and hauppague 250 card? |
| [08:03:00] | anurag: | i am trying to tune in for the past 2 days using knoppmyth, but no use |
| [08:03:00] | Krazylegz: | Try xawtv. |
| [08:04:00] | anurag: | xawtv gives seg fault |
| [08:04:00] | Krazylegz: | Why? |
| [08:05:00] | anurag: | it gives bunch of msgs related to ioctl and crashes... leme paste the msg again |
| [08:05:00] | EL_Whistey: | Krazylegz, what's wrong with nfs? I mean, for your application, not in general. |
| [08:05:00] | anurag: | how do we tune channels? use the ptune script? |
| [08:06:00] | Krazylegz: | EL_Whistey: My workstation currently spends 100% of it's time in Windows. |
| [08:06:00] | EL_Whistey: | There's your problem right there. |
| [08:07:00] | Krazylegz: | Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. |
| [08:07:00] | Krazylegz: | Linux is fun, but Windows pays the bills. |
| [08:07:00] | EL_Whistey: | use plenty of lube then |
| [08:07:00] | Krazylegz: | Hopefully I'll get away from Windows on the workstation in a month or so, but I'll still need MS SQL Enterprise Manager. |
| [08:08:00] | EL_Whistey: | incidentally, you might find an http fuse fs would be better. |
| [08:08:00] | Krazylegz: | Why's that? |
| [08:08:00] | EL_Whistey: | it's just a vague recollection I have, but I think ftp is possibly slower, but it may just be network latency over WAN |
| [08:09:00] | Krazylegz: | Yes, but FTP gives me more features here. The video manager would actually delete the videos, etc. |
| [08:10:00] | Krazylegz: | Unless I'm missing something. |
| [08:11:00] | anurag: | Krazylegz: mplayer /dev/video0 gives me a snowy picture |
| [08:12:00] | Krazylegz: | Snowy, or just snow? |
| [08:12:00] | EL_Whistey: | Krazylegz, reasonable points. |
| [08:12:00] | anurag: | Krazylegz: sorrie.... just snow |
| [08:13:00] | Krazylegz: | Is your tuner type set properly? |
| [08:13:00] | Krazylegz: | I forget what you can do to set the channel manually. |
| [08:13:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh yeah, ptune.pl, I think. |
| [08:14:00] | anurag: | Krazylegz: tuner type is tuner0 |
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| [08:19:00] | Krazylegz: | No, you need to pass an option to the module when you load it, something like options tuner type=2 . |
| [08:19:00] | Krazylegz: | You have to figure out what your tuner type is, though. |
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| [08:25:00] | k-man: | hello |
| [08:25:00] | k-man: | hey Agrajag-? |
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| [08:29:00] | Agrajag-: | gday |
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| [08:29:00] | fatmatt: | gday |
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| [08:30:00] | fatmatt: | dingos |
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| [08:34:00] | Agrajag-: | k-man? |
| [08:34:00] | k-man: | i was just listening to hhgttg this morning |
| [08:34:00] | k-man: | and i realised where you got your name from |
| [08:34:00] | k-man: | hehe |
| [08:35:00] | Agrajag-: | oh ok, hehe |
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| [08:36:00] | k-man: | are you in aus.? |
| [08:36:00] | Agrajag-: | yep |
| [08:44:00] | smb3_guy: | too bad the only way to get hdtv with myth tv is OTA or nonencrypted cable in the US |
| [08:44:00] | smb3_guy: | no way to get discovery HD |
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| [08:53:00] | Chutt: | too bad that that's the only way to get hdtv with any pc-based pvr application |
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| [08:54:00] | XAD: | hmm, why did they put a "TEA5768HL; Low-power FM stereo radio for handheld applications" in a PVR card??? |
| [08:54:00] | defaultro: | hi Chutt |
| [08:55:00] | k-man: | what is OTA? |
| [08:55:00] | Agrajag-: | over the air |
| [08:55:00] | k-man: | oh |
| [08:55:00] | k-man: | thanks |
| [08:55:00] | Agrajag-: | i tihnk? |
| [08:56:00] | k-man: | yeah |
| [08:56:00] | k-man: | i think you are right |
| [08:56:00] | Chutt: | google, define:OTA |
| [08:56:00] | defaultro: | hi Agrajag |
| [08:58:00] | defaultro: | do you know of any nice plate that I can use outside my house to terminate all incoming coaxial cable? It's because, I'm going to add another coax and am sure, it's gonna look yucky! |
| [08:59:00] | Agrajag-: | heh no idea |
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| [09:02:00] | k-man: | anyone here ever played with building a dipole antenna to receive a specific channel? |
| [09:02:00] | k-man: | ie a tuned dipole |
| [09:02:00] | k-man: | as my abc reception is very crap |
| [09:02:00] | k-man: | and I need to do something to improve my reception |
| [09:03:00] | k-man: | current antenna is provided by the block my units so its not something i can really get fixed |
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| [09:04:00] | thechris: | k-man: what frequency |
| [09:04:00] | k-man: | um... |
| [09:04:00] | k-man: | abc... which is.. um... 261500000 i think |
| [09:05:00] | thechris: | hmm. 261Ghz? |
| [09:05:00] | thechris: | i have a feeling there is a decimal someplace |
| [09:06:00] | k-man: | check your decimal places |
| [09:06:00] | thechris: | oh, 261Mhz |
| [09:06:00] | thechris: | ok, reasonable |
| [09:06:00] | k-man: | thats 226.5 mhz |
| [09:06:00] | k-man: | i just checked |
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| [09:06:00] | k-man: | 226.5 |
| [09:06:00] | k-man: | thechris, yeah? |
| [09:07:00] | thechris: | in anycase the wavelength is about 4ft |
| [09:07:00] | k-man: | i forget the formula.. its something to do with the speed of light iirc |
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| [09:07:00] | k-man: | cool |
| [09:07:00] | defaultr0: | got disconnected :( |
| [09:07:00] | k-man: | relatively short |
| [09:07:00] | thechris: | so that means 1/4th is 1ft |
| [09:07:00] | defaultr0: | anyone familiar with diplexer? |
| [09:07:00] | thechris: | i'm trying to remeber if both leads are 1/4 or the whole thing is 1/4 |
| [09:08:00] | thechris: | defaultr0: only vaugley familiar |
| [09:08:00] | k-man: | no.. i thought each lead is 1/2 of the wavelenght |
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| [09:09:00] | k-man: | and how do i match the impeadance? |
| [09:10:00] | thechris: | http://www.electronics-tutorials.com/antennas/antenna-basics.htm |
| [09:12:00] | thechris: | oh, anyone know how to get a hauppague mce500 to work in linux |
| [09:12:00] | thechris: | google is holding out on me |
| [09:17:00] | XAD: | yes... install unstable ivtv 0.3.x... |
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| [09:21:00] | k-man: | thechris, hm... so quater wave dipole |
| [09:21:00] | k-man: | that makes it um... |
| [09:21:00] | k-man: | only 33 centimeters for each length |
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| [09:22:00] | thechris: | k-man yeah, that seems to be a half wave — 1/4th in each direction |
| [09:22:00] | thechris: | 33 sounds about right |
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| [09:29:00] | k-man: | yeah |
| [09:29:00] | k-man: | so how do i get my signal from the dipole to the TV? |
| [09:30:00] | k-man: | how do i match the impedance from the antenna to the antenna cable? |
| [09:31:00] | thechris: | according to the website it should be 75ohm |
| [09:31:00] | k-man: | and whats the impedance of tv coax? |
| [09:31:00] | thechris: | 75ohm |
| [09:32:00] | k-man: | oh |
| [09:32:00] | k-man: | nice |
| [09:32:00] | k-man: | so i can just plug it straight in? |
| [09:32:00] | thechris: | the site suggest a balun filter |
| [09:32:00] | k-man: | yeah.... what is that and why? |
| [09:33:00] | thechris: | i'm not sure why you would use it, but it is a balenced to unbalenced converter |
| [09:34:00] | k-man: | yeah |
| [09:34:00] | k-man: | not sure either |
| [09:34:00] | defaultr0: | what is this guys, http://satellitetheater.com/C-Band%20World.htm |
| [09:34:00] | k-man: | i might try without first |
| [09:39:00] | thechris: | is X required for mythtv? |
| [09:39:00] | thechris: | xterm comes up as a dependencty |
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| [09:58:00] | rarr: | is it possible to get mythtv to actualy cut out the commericals? Ive used the edit mode to put in cut points and it doesn't play the bits inbetween cut points but the bits its supposed to have cut out actualy still exist within the file |
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| [10:01:00] | XAD: | rarr, that's the idea as the auto-commercial-remove doesn't always work correctly... you can use the auto-comm-remove list to make a cut list when you recode/remake the file... |
| [10:02:00] | rarr: | so Ive got to recode the file for it to remove it from the original file |
| [10:07:00] | XAD: | yes, but some tools can remove sections without recoding... |
| [10:08:00] | rarr: | yeah Ive been trying to use mpeg2cut that comes with nuvexport, not had any luck yet, just looking it all up on google |
| [10:09:00] | XAD: | rarr: any luck == ?? |
| [10:10:00] | rarr: | any success in other words |
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| [10:11:00] | XAD: | it wont cut correctly or you don't get any output?? |
| [10:13:00] | rarr: | hmm I think I'm using it wrong..I'm unable to find any documentation for it |
| [10:16:00] | XAD: | no cut OR no output file?? |
| [10:17:00] | rarr: | no its ok I've supplied it with frames to cut from the file... i thought mythtv stored the cut information within the nuv file and thats what moeg2cut read and used to cut the file.. obviously not |
| [10:18:00] | XAD: | rarr: the auto-commercial-remove is not a cut list... you need to import it to the cut list in the tool... |
| [10:19:00] | rarr: | auto-commercial-remove doesnt work |
| [10:20:00] | rarr: | well it doesnt identify where the commericals are |
| [10:20:00] | XAD: | when you play the clip it doesn't show the commercial, right?? |
| [10:20:00] | travolta: | theres a setting that lets you skip/not skip auto flaged commercials |
| [10:20:00] | rarr: | it did, but I went through it and put in cut points via the edit mode |
| [10:23:00] | rarr: | only after Ive put in the cut points does it not show the commericals |
| [10:25:00] | travolta: | did you check the setting to skip auto flaged commercials? i think by default it is ooff |
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| [10:26:00] | rarr: | yeah Ive turned it on, Ive come to the conclusion it can't detect them... So I was trying to get myth tv to remove them manualy |
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| [12:06:00] | k-man_: | is there a way to measuer the error rate in a particular dvb channel? |
| [12:06:00] | k-man_: | im having trouble getting good enough reception on abc in sydney |
| [12:07:00] | Puuhis: | scan <frequency-file> > /home/yourfolder/.tzap/channels.conf && tzap "Channel" |
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| [12:07:00] | k-man_: | Puuhis, yeah, im looking at that |
| [12:08:00] | k-man_: | the signal to noise ratio on abc for me is between 5800 and 5a00 |
| [12:08:00] | Puuhis: | this is how I do it -> scan dvb-t/fi-Haapavesi > /home/puuhis/.tzap/channels.conf && tzap "Yle TV1" |
| [12:08:00] | k-man_: | yes |
| [12:08:00] | k-man_: | i'm doing that |
| [12:12:00] | k-man_: | hmmm |
| [12:12:00] | k-man_: | as i'm getting a lot of noise just on this channel |
| [12:12:00] | k-man_: | maybe i could put a notch filter in |
| [12:12:00] | k-man_: | to just filter this channel or something |
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| [12:59:00] | Heist: | anyone know why I lose sound when changing to a particular channel, but can get sound on it if it's the first channel myth starts up with? |
| [13:00:00] | directhex|work: | gremlins inside your pc? |
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| [13:23:00] | laga: | Heist: try hitting '+'? |
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| [13:27:00] | Tommck: | laga – did you wire up his machine to log him out when he hit "+" ? ;) |
| [13:28:00] | laga: | Tommck: of course. </bofh> |
| [13:28:00] | Tommck: | :) |
| [13:28:00] | laga: | *yawn* |
| [13:29:00] | directhex|work: | a bofh wouldn't wire up his machine to log him out when he hit "+" |
| [13:29:00] | directhex|work: | they'd wire a 230 volt mains supply to the + key |
| [13:29:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [13:30:00] | laga: | i'm the pimply faced youth then, ok? ;) |
| [13:32:00] | ** Tommck hands laga some acne medicine ** | |
| [13:33:00] | directhex|work: | bleh, it's only thursday. when will this week end >_< |
| [13:33:00] | laga: | THX |
| [13:33:00] | laga: | directhex|work: heh. |
| [13:33:00] | k-man_: | laga, do you get some channels tuning to the wrong audio stream? |
| [13:33:00] | Tommck: | directhex|work – tomorrow? |
| [13:33:00] | ** laga got up at 1pm today ;) ** | |
| [13:33:00] | k-man_: | and pressing + gets it to the correct one? |
| [13:33:00] | directhex|work: | Tommck, that's what they want you to think |
| [13:33:00] | Tommck: | hehe |
| [13:33:00] | laga: | k-man_: no, i use analog. but it works that way with DVB |
| [13:33:00] | directhex|work: | laga, jobless slacker |
| [13:33:00] | adante: | can someone quickly tell me which table should I dump if i want to delete all the current tv guide data |
| [13:33:00] | laga: | directhex|work: heh |
| [13:33:00] | k-man_: | laga, yes, i get that problem sometimes |
| [13:34:00] | k-man_: | is there a way to solve that? |
| [13:34:00] | directhex|work: | ordered a remote for my mythtv box \o/ |
| [13:35:00] | laga: | k-man_: hit + |
| [13:35:00] | Tommck: | laga – doing it again, huh? |
| [13:35:00] | k-man_: | laga |
| [13:35:00] | k-man_: | yes, that solves it |
| [13:35:00] | k-man_: | i'm aware of the + thing |
| [13:35:00] | laga: | directhex|work: i'm going to get a ati wonder remote. when i'm done with being a jobless slacker ;) |
| [13:35:00] | laga: | Tommck: yeah, it's just too much fun |
| [13:36:00] | directhex|work: | laga, i have the most bizzare problem with mine. 5 of the keys don't work in X. |
| [13:36:00] | k-man_: | but what i'm wondering is, is there a way to set which audio stream it should select automaticaly? |
| [13:36:00] | laga: | k-man_: it's possible that mythtv just doesnt know which stream to choose. and chooses the wrong one |
| [13:36:00] | laga: | directhex|work: xmodmap? xev? ;) |
| [13:37:00] | directhex|work: | laga, xev doesn't see the keys. |
| [13:37:00] | directhex|work: | laga, evtest and showkey do. |
| [13:37:00] | laga: | directhex|work: sad :/ |
| [13:37:00] | laga: | directhex|work: i don't know much about the X key events stuff. |
| [13:38:00] | k-man_: | laga, yes, so is there a way to tell it which one to choose? |
| [13:38:00] | laga: | k-man_: dunno. i dont use DVB. |
| [13:38:00] | k-man_: | oh well |
| [13:38:00] | k-man_: | directhex|work, i had a problem like that before with a dvb card's remote |
| [13:39:00] | k-man_: | the kernel was picking up the keys, but not passing them to X |
| [13:39:00] | k-man_: | i never worked out why |
| [13:39:00] | directhex|work: | k-man, i believe it's an xlibs issue |
| [13:39:00] | k-man_: | in the end, i found someone else who had the same remote had hacked the kernel module to make the keys give the key strokes he wanted |
| [13:39:00] | k-man_: | and i used that |
| [13:40:00] | directhex|work: | k-man, i'm waiting with baited breath for xorg to switch over to using evdev input fully. evdev is "teh win" |
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| [13:42:00] | k-man_: | teh win? |
| [13:42:00] | k-man_: | directhex|work, are you using x.org as your x server? |
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| [13:43:00] | directhex|work: | i am at home |
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| [14:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | Blah |
| [14:54:00] | laga: | ack |
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| [14:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | Man, I either need a usb hub or more usb ports on my laptop :) |
| [14:56:00] | laga: | i don't use any usb hardware. except for my mouse, my gamepad, my webcam, my hard-drive..well, never mind |
| [14:57:00] | directhex|work: | i have a usb mouse! \o/ |
| [14:57:00] | defaultr0: | hey laga/greyfoxx. What does provenance mean in this sentence "A neighbor put in 700 ft of the Brazilian "Koa" and it looks gorgeous despite what I know about its provenance" |
| [14:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh I find I use more and more of it. But of course more and more of it is coming out |
| [14:57:00] | directhex|work: | and... um... my media bay attaches to an internal usb header |
| [14:57:00] | rw: | good morning. |
| [14:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | defaultr0: It' |
| [14:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | s referring to where it comes fromn or where it "Grew up" |
| [14:58:00] | defaultr0: | oh ok |
| [14:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: Got that USB mythfrontend stuff to the point where it boots, and launches mythfrontend automatically. Only thing a user needs to do is to place their mysql.txt on the usb stick. It will dhcp and come up automatically |
| [14:59:00] | EL_Whistey: | provenance, where it came from |
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| [15:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | So at this point I need to add in/make a module with the nvidia closed source driver, recompile the mythtv module and I suppose if I'm gonna pass it out add in lirc support, and decide how to handle the mounting of remote partitions which should be simple enough |
| [15:01:00] | defaultr0: | thanks guys :) |
| [15:01:00] | defaultr0: | GreyFoxx, are you writing a howto? |
| [15:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | defaultr0: Nope, just setting up a livecd/usb stick mythfrontend |
| [15:02:00] | defaultr0: | ok, i mean, are you going to write a howto when you are done? |
| [15:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nope |
| [15:02:00] | defaultr0: | ok :) |
| [15:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | At least wasn't planning on it |
| [15:02:00] | defaultr0: | i was hoping that i can use my usb stick too |
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| [15:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'll either give out the iso, or just the modules (which will require some sort of walkthrough) and a short description on how to install it to the usb stick |
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| [15:03:00] | defaultr0: | ok |
| [15:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | Most of my time has been spent in learning mode learning the ins and outs of this particular distro |
| [15:05:00] | robin_: | Ok, I have removed KnoppMyth, and reinstalled my htpc with Kubuntu, the latest ivtv, cvs xmltv, latest firm.. and it works great! superb image quality (no blur) But: |
| [15:05:00] | defaultr0: | hey buddy, have you taken a nap? :) we were talking about this last night |
| [15:07:00] | robin_: | horizontal movements seems to give problems.. looks like interlace artifacts.. don't know what it is. |
| [15:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | robin_: That's likely exactly what it is |
| [15:07:00] | robin_: | Could it be the hsync ? |
| [15:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | interlacing effects |
| [15:07:00] | robin_: | GreyFoxx: but my TV is interlace |
| [15:07:00] | robin_: | GreyFoxx: so timing problems? |
| [15:08:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: very cool :) |
| [15:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes, but the scanlines/timing of your video card lining are not lining up exactly with your TV |
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| [15:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | most of us outputting to a TV still endup deinterlacing the video |
| [15:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | even though it's interlaced again and shoved out |
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| [15:09:00] | simprix: | When you set a recording to schedule does it check the orginal airdate to see if it is a repeat |
| [15:09:00] | robin_: | GreyFoxx: I tried deinterlacing (kernel) but it looks blurry (for example the newsbars you see at CNN) |
| [15:10:00] | robin_: | Well the newsbars on CNN not.. but we have a news channel with fast moving bars |
| [15:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | can't remember which I use offhand |
| [15:10:00] | robin_: | and they looks blurry with deinterlace. |
| [15:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | Deinterlacing + Enabling OpenGL vblank syncing took care of my issues |
| [15:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | Though I would much rather not have to deinterlace it at all |
| [15:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | I agree it "softens" the image a little |
| [15:11:00] | directhex|work: | it would be nice if shows weren't sent interlaced, of course |
| [15:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | my mediamvp with the same content looks perfect, but on the pc with deinterlacing it's "soft" |
| [15:12:00] | robin_: | ok, i'm looking at some modelines and see some have -hsync and -vsync |
| [15:12:00] | robin_: | something to try ? |
| [15:12:00] | robin_: | or is it not possible at all to have the same timings as the TV |
| [15:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can try anything you like. I doubt you will find a perfect solution, but you might improve what you have now. Most people who have "perfect" solutions are using hacked hardware and special modelines or dedicated decoder hardware like the mvp/350/etc |
| [15:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or DVI out of course :) |
| [15:14:00] | robin_: | :) ok |
| [15:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you find something that improves the look, let us know. Always good to have that info |
| [15:14:00] | robin_: | ok |
| [15:14:00] | robin_: | well the image quality has been much improved with my new install |
| [15:14:00] | robin_: | don't know if it was the new driver (ivtv) |
| [15:14:00] | robin_: | but it is now better than my TV tuner |
| [15:15:00] | robin_: | low noise.. and sharp |
| [15:15:00] | robin_: | i'm happy :D |
| [15:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe I find that too |
| [15:16:00] | EL_Whistey: | I can make mythtv use something other than the builtin tv player, yes? |
| [15:17:00] | GeckoFiend: | EL_Whistey you *can* but the question is why would you? |
| [15:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | EL_Whistey: For watching live TV you mean? Or for playback of recordings ? |
| [15:17:00] | EL_Whistey: | GeckoFiend, to wrap the internal player in something which will let me turn off screensaver. |
| [15:17:00] | EL_Whistey: | Watching live tv. |
| [15:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | No, I don't think so |
| [15:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | Uhhh I though it did that already |
| [15:18:00] | GeckoFiend: | EL_Whistey Myth already does that |
| [15:18:00] | EL_Whistey: | Does it? COOL. |
| [15:18:00] | EL_Whistey: | so it'll turn off screensaver before starting any player? That's great. |
| [15:18:00] | EL_Whistey: | and return it to its prior state on completion of the playing? |
| [15:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | Internal player at least, no idea about external apps |
| [15:19:00] | EL_Whistey: | external apps I can wrap. |
| [15:23:00] | EL_Whistey: | How does one discover this fact about mythtv? Source diving? |
| [15:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | -users mailing list, IRC, I'm sure I've seen it on a page or wiki somewhere and of course ultimately looking in the source |
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| [15:35:00] | laga: | oh, i've just noticed that the package i've given to rjune is missing mythfrontend *cough* |
| [15:35:00] | directhex|work: | pfft, mythfrontend is for wusses who can't fiddle the sql by hand |
| [15:37:00] | laga: | and can't read raw nuppelvideo with their eyes |
| [15:37:00] | directhex|work: | aalib, duh! |
| [15:38:00] | laga: | heh |
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| [15:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | man, my laptop needs some serious defragging |
| [15:41:00] | laga: | rm -rf /opt/quake3/ ? |
| [15:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | more like , move all vmware virtual machines to another disk, defrag, move them back |
| [15:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | And or find a better defrag app than what comes with windows that will move them around as well |
| [15:44:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [15:44:00] | laga: | o&o defrag professional? dunno fit that will to the job. |
| [15:45:00] | laga: | s/fit/if/ |
| [15:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | No idea :) |
| [15:47:00] | pjo: | [slightly OT] I'm trying to build an FM monitoring box with about 15–20 PCI cards (some BTTV some sound with looping cables). I'm considering Advantech's solutions? Any recomendations as per sound/BTTV cards that will support PCI bridging that deep? |
| [15:48:00] | pjo: | oh and I'm planning to use Linux (if that matters) |
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| [16:03:00] | PITABoy: | one last problem |
| [16:04:00] | PITABoy: | everything works except everything is black when watching tv unless i do a ivtvctl -d /dev/video0 -p 4 |
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| [16:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | PITABoy: Then it sounds like you configured the wrong interface on the card within myth |
| [16:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's likely trying to watch the svideo or composite input, but your ivtvctl is switching it to the tv tuner |
| [16:17:00] | PITABoy: | yeah it is trying to use composite0 and i need to use ivtvctl to switch it to tuner0 |
| [16:17:00] | PITABoy: | how do i change that |
| [16:17:00] | PITABoy: | in mythtv |
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| [16:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythtv-setup |
| [16:19:00] | PITABoy: | ok i will try it and i will be back |
| [16:20:00] | PITABoy: | i think that i have to restart |
| [16:20:00] | PITABoy: | brb |
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| [16:55:00] | REyM]: | I install mythdvd but when I play it I hear the sound but I don't see the movie I also can't use mythtv when running that dvd |
| [16:55:00] | REyM]: | *installed |
| [16:56:00] | REyM]: | when I mannually run that command in X the dvd begins to play |
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| [17:04:00] | directhex|work: | your window manager is probably preeventing your dvd playback app from going on top |
| [17:04:00] | directhex|work: | kde does it, for one |
| [17:05:00] | REyM]: | and anyone know how I can make mythtv work with my mpeg2 encoder? I installed the debian package but I can't find if it is compiled with xvmc support |
| [17:05:00] | REyM]: | directhex|work ah, ok, I'll look at that |
| [17:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | REyM]: xvmc is used for mpeg decoding, not encoding |
| [17:07:00] | REyM]: | uh, I mean that |
| [17:08:00] | REyM]: | I have got a via epia M1k for the decoding and a haupauge pvr150MCE for the encoding |
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| [17:09:00] | REyM]: | I got mplayer to work with the decoder, I am able to play dvd's with 30% cpu usage :) |
| [17:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've never had to deal with the xvmc via stuff. B ut I would imagine You could do an ldd on mythfrontend and look at the library requirements to see if a filename appears to be what you need. |
| [17:10:00] | directhex|work: | or apt-get source and look at the debian/control file |
| [17:10:00] | directhex|work: | or even anyth revealing information in apt-cache depends |
| [17:11:00] | REyM]: | apt-cache doesn't reveal anything about xvmc |
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| [18:04:00] | Greff: | Has anyone else noticed myth stalling when the stream it's playing is mainly black? (DVB/CVS from early July) Any ideas? |
| [18:06:00] | Greff: | The title to 'lost' is a black screen with smallish writing in the middle, when this is displayed is causes the video to stall/stutter for a second or two. |
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| [18:22:00] | xris: | oooh, greg the bunny is coming (back?) to IFC |
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| [18:24:00] | Filip^: | Greff: did you try to get the latest ffmpeg? |
| [18:27:00] | xris: | Beirdo: finally got to crack open a new bottle of port last night (TF 10yr) |
| [18:27:00] | laga: | crack..bottle...open...*drool* |
| [18:27:00] | Mrgoose2: | Beirdo: i finally got this shit set up |
| [18:27:00] | Mrgoose2: | can you link me to your graphs again? |
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| [18:28:00] | xris: | laga: do germans drink port? ;) |
| [18:28:00] | xris: | thought it was all beer and jaegermeister |
| [18:28:00] | laga: | xris: i, for one, prefer beer |
| [18:28:00] | laga: | jaegermeister? bah |
| [18:28:00] | laga: | blech |
| [18:28:00] | xris: | well, the NAME is german. heh. |
| [18:29:00] | xris: | but I agree. |
| [18:29:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [18:29:00] | Beirdo: | xris: good stuff :) |
| [18:29:00] | Beirdo: | schnapps |
| [18:29:00] | xris: | Beirdo: yes, quite. |
| [18:29:00] | laga: | yummy, schnaps. but jaegermeister makes me puke. *shiver* |
| [18:29:00] | xris: | ah, yes. that's also german-named.. and actually drinkable (depending on the flavor) |
| [18:29:00] | Beirdo: | TF 10yr tawny is yummm |
| [18:30:00] | Beirdo: | the 20yr is even better |
| [18:31:00] | xris: | all I have is 10. |
| [18:31:00] | Greff: | Flip^: I don't think so. Is the latest version supposed to be better then? |
| [18:31:00] | ** laga wonders if you can still drink 20 years old wine ** | |
| [18:32:00] | xris: | but I have several (well, 2 and a half) bottles of "old benson"... awesome stuff. |
| [18:32:00] | xris: | laga: port isn't exactly wine |
| [18:32:00] | Greff: | Flip^ I seem to be using 0.4.9_pre1 (gentoo port) |
| [18:32:00] | Beirdo: | it's ex-wine |
| [18:32:00] | xris: | wine with additives. |
| [18:32:00] | Beirdo: | that's been fortified with brandy |
| [18:32:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [18:32:00] | laga: | xris: i wasn't talking about wine, i'm talking about a bottle i've found in the cellar ;) |
| [18:33:00] | Beirdo: | and yes, if the wine bottle's been kept on its side so the cork stays wet, 20yrs is doable |
| [18:33:00] | laga: | fantastic. my mythtv doesn't record properly anymore *sigh* |
| [18:33:00] | laga: | Beirdo: great, thanks |
| [18:33:00] | Beirdo: | or upside down for that matter |
| [18:33:00] | Beirdo: | if the cork completely dries out, there's a good chance the wine will have spoiled |
| [18:33:00] | Mrgoose2: | Beirdo: can i see the link to your cacti page |
| [18:33:00] | Greff: | Flip^: ok, I'll look into it some more, thanks for your help. |
| [18:34:00] | Beirdo: | https://www2.beirdo.ca/cacti/graph_view.php?a . . . mp;tree_id=9 |
| [18:35:00] | Mrgoose2: | gracisous |
| [18:36:00] | Mrgoose2: | are these addins/scripts you dwonloaded for like the mythtv graphs and stuff? or did you make them up yourself |
| [18:36:00] | xris: | laga: then why did you call it "20 year old wine"? |
| [18:37:00] | laga: | xris: argh. sorry, i meant 'i wasn't talking about port" |
| [18:37:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [18:37:00] | xris: | ahh |
| [18:37:00] | xris: | heh |
| [18:37:00] | laga: | that's great. mythtv says that futurama is being recorded, but it isn't. |
| [18:37:00] | laga: | xris: blame it on the jägermeister ;) |
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| [18:44:00] | upgrdman: | where do i tell mythtv the password for my mysql db |
| [18:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | mysql.txt |
| [18:44:00] | upgrdman: | in what directory |
| [18:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | either in ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt or /usr/local/share/mysql.txt or depending on your install in another location |
| [18:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | If it doesn't exist mythfrontend and mythsetup will ask you for the info when you launch them I believe |
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| [18:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | and will generate it for you |
| [18:46:00] | upgrdman: | damn, i fixed mysql.txt and i still get an error |
| [18:46:00] | upgrdman: | is it ok if i do a small flood |
| [18:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | never flood. use pastebin.ca and post a link |
| [18:47:00] | upgrdman: | 5 lines? |
| [18:47:00] | upgrdman: | ok |
| [18:47:00] | upgrdman: | http://pastebin.ca/19807 |
| [18:47:00] | xris: | upgrdman: locate mysql.txt |
| [18:47:00] | xris: | if it's in multiple locations, mythtv might be hitting the wrong one |
| [18:47:00] | ** upgrdman runs updatedb first ** | |
| [18:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well that isn't a mysql problem |
| [18:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's failing to open the backend. Is mythbackend running ? |
| [18:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | Have you already run mythtv-setup ? |
| [18:48:00] | upgrdman: | doh! im retarded |
| [18:48:00] | upgrdman: | omfg... thx |
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| [18:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [18:48:00] | upgrdman: | yes i ran the setup |
| [18:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | np, |
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| [18:49:00] | ** GreyFoxx finally starts his own MythTV related pages ** | |
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| [18:50:00] | Beirdo: | wow |
| [18:50:00] | Beirdo: | Go, GreyFoxx |
| [18:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | :P |
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| [18:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, I figured It's about time I put down instructions for that ati_remote module for any who want it, and instructions on setting up Mythfrontend on SLAX |
| [18:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | and a million other things I keep meaning to document |
| [18:51:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [18:52:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: or put it into the new wiki ;) |
| [18:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've got the mythfrontend stuff on slax almost done so I figure I should document how to make it, or for users how to just use it |
| [18:52:00] | upgrdman: | well now i ran mythfrontend, and it cant connect to the master server, and it looks like it has the right password and username |
| [18:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: No, any projects I maintain personally are going to be on my own. |
| [18:53:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: heh. |
| [18:53:00] | Mrgoose2: | see |
| [18:53:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: well, i've started my own wiki for my own documentation ;) |
| [18:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | But anything about a myth module will go in the official one |
| [18:54:00] | upgrdman: | 2005-08–11 09:54:18.459 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5) |
| [18:54:00] | upgrdman: | Connection timed out. |
| [18:54:00] | upgrdman: | i gave it the right username and password though.. i dont know whats wrong |
| [18:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | upgrdman: But is "mythbackend" running? the username and password / mysql.txt stuff is for connecting to MySQL, not for connecting to mythbackend |
| [18:55:00] | upgrdman: | mythbackend and mysql are running |
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| [18:55:00] | laga: | my mythtv on ltsp project isn't coming along very well, libstdc++ is missing *sigh* |
| [18:55:00] | upgrdman: | upgrdman@farrell ~ $ /etc/init.d/mythbackend status |
| [18:55:00] | upgrdman: | * status: started |
| [18:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | Can you "telnet localhost 6543" ? |
| [18:55:00] | upgrdman: | command not found... one min |
| [18:55:00] | upgrdman: | :) |
| [18:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: I've been meaning to writing up ahowto for how I do that as well. now that I've got this wiki installed maybe I will |
| [18:56:00] | upgrdman: | hum |
| [18:56:00] | upgrdman: | what package is telnet part of |
| [18:56:00] | upgrdman: | in gentoo, if it makes a difference |
| [18:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | Not being a gentoo user I wouldn't know |
| [18:57:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: heh. wikis are nice. especially if you want people to improve your content. otherwise, vim is good enough ;) |
| [18:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | but there are #gentoo and #gentoo-mythtv channels that might have a good answer for you |
| [18:57:00] | Beirdo: | or man emerge |
| [18:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: I wont likely be letting others edit it |
| [18:58:00] | Beirdo: | learn how to search |
| [18:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | and vi is usually how I do it. Cept I really don't care to design/layout the html for it. |
| [18:58:00] | Mrgoose2: | Beirdo: are these addins/scripts you dwonloaded for like the mythtv graphs and stuff? or did you make them up yourself |
| [18:58:00] | Beirdo: | I wrote them |
| [18:58:00] | Mrgoose2: | ahh |
| [18:58:00] | Mrgoose2: | would you like to share them? |
| [18:59:00] | upgrdman: | telnet: connect to address 127.0.0.1: Connection refused |
| [18:59:00] | Mrgoose2: | for your old pal |
| [18:59:00] | Mrgoose2: | mrgoose |
| [18:59:00] | Beirdo: | I'd have to sanitize them, but it's not hard to do if you know a bit of perl with MySQL |
| [18:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | upgrdman: You did specify the port 6543 right ? |
| [18:59:00] | Mrgoose2: | Beirdo: i dont know any |
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| [18:59:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: a CMS would help ;). typo3 is very nice, but it has a steeplearning curve, imho ;) |
| [19:00:00] | upgrdman: | GreyFoxx, $ telnet localhost 6543 |
| [19:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | My company makes a cms among the various apps we write. But it's windows only, and honestly I like the look of mediawiki better |
| [19:00:00] | cochi: | laga, what about Mambo? better learning curve |
| [19:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | upgrdman: Then either mythbackend is not running, it's running on a different ip/port or you havbe some wacky local firewall blocking you |
| [19:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | upd: netstat -antu | grep 6543 |
| [19:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | what does that return ? |
| [19:01:00] | upgrdman: | upgrdman@farrell ~ $ /etc/init.d/mythbackend status |
| [19:01:00] | upgrdman: | * status: started |
| [19:01:00] | laga: | cochi: umm, i didn't like their themes *cough* i'm not very good at html/css ;) |
| [19:01:00] | cochi: | hehe k |
| [19:01:00] | laga: | cochi: blog51 is nice, but well, it's a blog. and buggy :/ |
| [19:01:00] | upgrdman: | GreyFoxx, returns nothing :/ |
| [19:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | upgrdman: that doesn't really mean much. You are best off checking the output of "ps -ef" |
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| [19:01:00] | cochi: | snipsnap is also nice. wiki+blog+km. but big+slow+almost dead |
| [19:02:00] | Beirdo: | Mambo++ |
| [19:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | when you ran mythtv-setup did you specifiy another IP or port ? |
| [19:02:00] | laga: | cochi: i still need someone who knows css or photoshop, the wiki could use some cosmetical operations ;) |
| [19:02:00] | upgrdman: | GreyFoxx, nope, left it as 127.0.0.1 |
| [19:03:00] | upgrdman: | ps -ef doesnt show it |
| [19:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | Then it's not running |
| [19:03:00] | upgrdman: | i'll try restarting the daemon |
| [19:03:00] | cochi: | i know css+html. but more in technical terms, not design ;)) |
| [19:03:00] | cochi: | so i'm of no use |
| [19:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | regardless of what the init scriot is telling you |
| [19:03:00] | upgrdman: | hum |
| [19:03:00] | upgrdman: | weird |
| [19:03:00] | upgrdman: | * Stopping MythTV Backend ... |
| [19:03:00] | upgrdman: | start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 11254: No such process [ !! ] |
| [19:04:00] | upgrdman: | zapped it... now i'll start it again |
| [19:08:00] | upgrdman: | hum, well i fixed mythbackend i think |
| [19:08:00] | upgrdman: | its now shows in netstat, as TIME_WAIT at least, and i can telnet it |
| [19:08:00] | upgrdman: | but mythfrontend still says it cant connect |
| [19:10:00] | upgrdman: | mythbackend.log shows... |
| [19:10:00] | upgrdman: | Starting up as the master server. |
| [19:10:00] | upgrdman: | QServerSocket: failed to bind or listen to the socket |
| [19:10:00] | upgrdman: | Failed to bind port: 6543 |
| [19:10:00] | Beirdo: | then something else is using it |
| [19:10:00] | Beirdo: | netstat -tanp | grep 6543 |
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| [19:12:00] | upgrdman: | returns nothing |
| [19:12:00] | upgrdman: | and the server dies |
| [19:12:00] | upgrdman: | died |
| [19:12:00] | upgrdman: | so i'll restart it and check netstat again |
| [19:12:00] | upgrdman: | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:6543 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 14232/mythbackend |
| [19:12:00] | upgrdman: | now i'll try running mythfrontend |
| [19:12:00] | Mrgoose2: | when i do |
| [19:14:00] | upgrdman: | hum |
| [19:14:00] | upgrdman: | it seemed to work for a minute |
| [19:14:00] | upgrdman: | when i went to watch tv it sorta sat there all black for a few seconds |
| [19:14:00] | upgrdman: | then it said something about the connection going away |
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| [19:15:00] | upgrdman: | and the log shows this /local_data/hdtv/live-tv-buffers//ringbuf1.nuv: No such file or directory |
| [19:15:00] | upgrdman: | am i supposed to create that file |
| [19:16:00] | upgrdman: | well i just made the dir by hand... live-tv-buffers... now i'll try again |
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| [19:44:00] | hadees: | anyone get any xorg lockups |
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| [19:57:00] | Mrgoose2: | Beirdo: any luck on that script? |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | I'm at work and busy, dude |
| [19:57:00] | xris: | bah, work is overrated. |
| [19:57:00] | xris: | ;) |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:57:00] | Mrgoose2: | Beirdo: sorry |
| [19:57:00] | Mrgoose2: | what kind of work do you do |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | I'll try to look at it tonight |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | UNIX sysadmin |
| [19:57:00] | Mrgoose2: | ahh |
| [19:58:00] | laga: | wannabe-BOFH |
| [20:01:00] | xris: | laga: hardly wannabe... |
| [20:03:00] | laga: | heh |
| [20:03:00] | laga: | ;)) |
| [20:04:00] | ** xris pretends to be a sysadmin sometimes ** | |
| [20:05:00] | xris: | lately, I'm the guy answering the "I'm busy, could you do X for me?" requests |
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| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | I like being a BOFH |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | it's fun |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | for me at least |
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| [20:15:00] | laga: | heh |
| [20:16:00] | purplefrog: | Is there a command-line tool which can signal the myth backend that "I've changed the programs database, so recompute your recording schedule" ? |
| [20:23:00] | Chutt: | mythbackend --help |
| [20:26:00] | purplefrog: | That's what I needed, chutt |
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| [21:06:00] | js2638: | who |
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| [21:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | Think of MPEG as a zipped video. rather than the full raw video frames they compressed(or encoded) into a stream of data that takes up significantly smaller space. However you need to decode(decompress) that stream to video it |
| [21:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | mobytrice: that's for you |
| [21:29:00] | mobytrice: | so do i need mpeg decoding |
| [21:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | err I meant to watch it, not "to video it" |
| [21:29:00] | hadees: | mobytrice, i don't know do you? |
| [21:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | You would not require hardware to do it, it can be done in software |
| [21:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | assuming you have enough CPU to handle the job |
| [21:30:00] | mobytrice: | i have a 2 ghz |
| [21:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's more than enough |
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| [21:30:00] | mobytrice: | ya and its being dedicate just to the card |
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| [21:30:00] | mobytrice: | does the mpeg decoder improve image quality |
| [21:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | no |
| [21:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | It just decodes it |
| [21:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | video quality is handled by other hardware/software |
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| [21:32:00] | mobytrice: | k |
| [21:32:00] | mobytrice: | greyfoxx do u knwo laot about hauppauge cards |
| [21:33:00] | mobytrice: | all the pvr's semm to be the same |
| [21:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | I know "enough" |
| [21:33:00] | Krazyleg1: | Sometimes this channel should be #hauppauge |
| [21:33:00] | mobytrice: | like the 350 has a onbord mpeg decoder which the hauppauge 250 doesnt |
| [21:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | correct |
| [21:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | Krazyleg1: Hehe |
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| [21:33:00] | mobytrice: | whats the difrence between 250 and 150 |
| [21:34:00] | hadees: | about 100 |
| [21:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | mobytrice: slightly different architecture on the cards. Different ways of communicating with the controller chips. And the 150 is cheaper |
| [21:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | the 150 is the replacement for the 250. |
| [21:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | basically they have come up with a way to make a card with the same functionality for a cheaper price :) |
| [21:35:00] | mobytrice: | o the 150 came after the 250 |
| [21:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [21:35:00] | mobytrice: | why did they make the name a lower number |
| [21:36:00] | mobytrice: | should of been higher |
| [21:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | *shrug* I have no idea |
| [21:36:00] | mobytrice: | lol |
| [21:36:00] | mobytrice: | and all 3 150 250 and 250 has same video quality |
| [21:36:00] | Krazylegz: | mobytrice means 150, 250 and 350. |
| [21:37:00] | Beirdo: | the 150 and 500 should have the same video quality |
| [21:37:00] | Beirdo: | and maybe different than the 250 and 350 |
| [21:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | mobytrice: They are all very close (for capture quality) . I've seen reports that the capture on the 150 is not as sharp as on the 250's . But I don't own a 150 to compare |
| [21:37:00] | Beirdo: | I think they used better parts on the 150 and 500 |
| [21:37:00] | Beirdo: | but I can't directly compare either |
| [21:38:00] | Mrgoose2: | Beirdo: could you spare a second brother |
| [21:38:00] | Mrgoose2: | quick quesiton |
| [21:38:00] | mobytrice: | so which card u thinkl i shoud get |
| [21:38:00] | Beirdo: | make it quick, I have lots of work to do :) |
| [21:38:00] | Mrgoose2: | ok i installed the accuweather addin for cacti |
| [21:38:00] | Mrgoose2: | graph comes up but no data on it |
| [21:39:00] | Mrgoose2: | so i check the cacti log |
| [21:39:00] | ** Beirdo shrugs ** | |
| [21:39:00] | Mrgoose2: | and it says |
| [21:39:00] | Mrgoose2: | 08/11/2005 03:37:02 PM – CMDPHP: Poller[0] Host[1] DS[8] CMD: perl /var/www/htdocs/cacti/scripts/AccuWeather.pl 27409, output |
| [21:39:00] | Mrgoose2: | oh ok |
| [21:39:00] | Beirdo: | I don't use that |
| [21:39:00] | Beirdo: | what output is it giving? |
| [21:39:00] | Mrgoose2: | 08/11/2005 03:37:02 PM – CMDPHP: Poller[0] Host[1] DS[8] WARNING: Result from CMD not valid. Partial Result: |
| [21:39:00] | mobytrice: | greyfox which card u think i should get\ |
| [21:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | mobytrice: If it was up to me I would get a 250. They costmore but have been around longer, and people seem to have less problems getting them working. |
| [21:39:00] | Mrgoose2: | Beirdo: no output just the graph, but no data on it |
| [21:40:00] | Mrgoose2: | someone said to |
| [21:40:00] | Mrgoose2: | yeah... try putting that in quotes or just hardcoding it to the script... your input uses the pipe, |, which i think your shell is trying to interpret. easiest thing to do is to just hard code your script since you probably dont need the flexibility too much... |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | dunno, you'll have to mess with the script, I guess |
| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | it doesn't seem to give the required output |
| [21:41:00] | Mrgoose2: | ok |
| [21:41:00] | mobytrice: | greyfox like iw as origanly going to get the 500 |
| [21:41:00] | mobytrice: | but u said before the 500 and 150 have same quality |
| [21:42:00] | Mrgoose2: | Beirdo: what calls the stuff in scripts/ directory? |
| [21:42:00] | Mrgoose2: | the poller.php does that right? |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [21:43:00] | mobytrice: | ill just go with the cheapest |
| [21:43:00] | Mrgoose2: | cause im tryin to find out what is calling perl /var/www/htdocs/cacti/scripts/AccuWeather.pl 27409, output |
| [21:43:00] | Mrgoose2: | i think you need quotes around that |
| [21:43:00] | mobytrice: | since they like all the smae |
| [21:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | mobytrice: They do. But the 500 has more than one tuner so it's like having 2 150's on the same card |
| [21:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can record 2 items at one time |
| [21:45:00] | mobytrice: | k` |
| [21:45:00] | mobytrice: | u know the 500 is cheaper then 350 |
| [21:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yes, but they have different functions |
| [21:45:00] | mobytrice: | o |
| [21:46:00] | mobytrice: | what r the dif functions |
| [21:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | the 350 is 1 tuner mpeg encoder plus a mpegdecoder with TV out |
| [21:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | the 350 is the only one of them with a hardware mpeg decoder and tv out |
| [21:46:00] | mobytrice: | o i dont need taht lol |
| [21:47:00] | kormoc: | you might need a new keyboard though ;) |
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| [21:47:00] | anaxagor1s: | hello |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | ahhhhh, coffee |
| [21:48:00] | mobytrice: | greyfoxx is 87 a good deal on the 150 |
| [21:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't know |
| [21:49:00] | Beirdo: | 87c? |
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| [21:49:00] | mobytrice: | american |
| [21:49:00] | mobytrice: | 87 dollars |
| [21:50:00] | anaxagor1s: | i got some problems running dvds with xine. Which entries do you have in you configuration fpr mythdvd |
| [21:51:00] | anaxagor1s: | i installed xine-libs and cxfe. |
| [21:52:00] | anaxagor1s: | my problem is that with the entry: "cxfe dvd:/ -vo xv -dev /dev/cdrom" gives me an unscaled output of the dvd. |
| [21:52:00] | mobytrice: | im ordering the 1540 now |
| [21:53:00] | mobytrice: | thanks greyfox |
| [21:53:00] | anaxagor1s: | how can i scale it like the mplayer does with the "zoom" flag ? |
| [21:54:00] | Beirdo: | man xine |
| [21:54:00] | Beirdo: | why are you asking us how to use xine? |
| [21:55:00] | Beirdo: | or man cxfe |
| [21:55:00] | Beirdo: | whatever |
| [21:56:00] | ** Chutt buys a harmony 880 ** | |
| [21:56:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [21:56:00] | anaxagor1s: | Beirdo: i thaught you are using mythdvd with xine and you have the experience. unfortunately there are no man files available. |
| [21:56:00] | Beirdo: | I don't use mythdvd, nor xine |
| [21:56:00] | anaxagor1s: | Beirdo: okay |
| [21:56:00] | Beirdo: | that's why I have a nice DVD player :) |
| [21:57:00] | Mrgoose2: | cool Beirdo: i got the script workin |
| [21:57:00] | kormoc: | anaxagor1s, there are man files for xine, you just need the xine-ui or just google for xine help pages. the info is out there. |
| [21:57:00] | Beirdo: | good stuff |
| [21:57:00] | robin_: | Who use SMP and Mythtv ? Any stability issues? |
| [21:57:00] | Mrgoose2: | all i need is your great myth template, script and i'll be good to go |
| [21:57:00] | anaxagor1s: | kormoc: okay i will have a look |
| [21:57:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:57:00] | kormoc: | robin_, smp and myth works perfectly fine with my dual boxs |
| [21:57:00] | Beirdo: | exporting the templates is a PITA, and I didn't make an XML |
| [21:58:00] | robin_: | kormoc: does the deinterlace filters, and decoding uses multi-threading ? |
| [21:58:00] | anaxagor1s: | thx guys anywehere . i ll have a look in the great, wide internet ;) |
| [21:58:00] | Mrgoose2: | oh, i dont need xml i just paste in the data |
| [21:59:00] | kormoc: | robin_, afaik, no, it's one thread for decoding. |
| [21:59:00] | robin_: | kormoc: hmm, I don't have much cpu power, but got another CPU left. Too bad that isn't multithreaded |
| [21:59:00] | fatmatt: | anaxagor1s: mplayer and xine both use -f for fullscreen afaik |
| [22:01:00] | anaxagor1s: | fatmatt: omg thank you for that information i will have try. |
| [22:01:00] | anaxagor1s: | + "a" |
| [22:01:00] | Chutt: | decoding happens in a separate thread than deinterlacing |
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| [22:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yeah. I'll try to do that tonight. If they come back and say anything I'll just wait and resubmit later |
| [22:02:00] | ** GreyFoxx adds the /msg to that hehe ** | |
| [22:03:00] | anaxagor1s: | bye than |
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| [22:07:00] | Mrgoose2: | wow |
| [22:07:00] | Mrgoose2: | they cracked the OS/X X86 |
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| [22:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mrgoose: nice. Looks like I might have another project to play with |
| [22:16:00] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx: right after you finish your site? |
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| [22:18:00] | xris: | Mrgoose: well, probably. and so far no one is sharing about how to do it. |
| [22:19:00] | Beirdo: | of course not |
| [22:19:00] | Beirdo: | Apple likes suing hackers |
| [22:19:00] | Beirdo: | always has |
| [22:20:00] | Beirdo: | argh! |
| [22:20:00] | Beirdo: | that config I pushed out was the wrong one |
| [22:20:00] | Beirdo: | sigh |
| [22:23:00] | fatmatt: | this is annoying, I can only mount windows shares as root |
| [22:23:00] | Beirdo: | simple solution |
| [22:24:00] | Beirdo: | don't mount windows shares :) |
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| [22:24:00] | pirre: | fatmatt: tried sudo? |
| [22:24:00] | fatmatt: | editing sudoers atm, |
| [22:24:00] | pirre: | okay |
| [22:25:00] | REyM]: | /usr/include/linux/joystick.h:142:2: error: #error Unexpected BITS_PER_LONG |
| [22:25:00] | xris: | fatmatt: or put them into fstab with the "user" flag |
| [22:26:00] | xris: | or use automount |
| [22:26:00] | pirre: | REyM]: ...go on |
| [22:26:00] | fatmatt: | I've got them in fstab with user flag, still only root can mount.. must be doing something wrong |
| [22:27:00] | xris: | you need to put ALL mount options in fstab |
| [22:27:00] | REyM]: | got that error when compiling |
| [22:27:00] | xris: | user can only "mount /path/to/mountpoint" |
| [22:27:00] | REyM]: | got an idea how to solve it? |
| [22:27:00] | pirre: | REyM]: compiling *what* ? |
| [22:27:00] | REyM]: | mythtv |
| [22:27:00] | Beirdo: | you planning on using a joystick? |
| [22:27:00] | REyM]: | no |
| [22:28:00] | Beirdo: | --disable-joystick-menus |
| [22:28:00] | Beirdo: | on your ./configure |
| [22:28:00] | REyM]: | thanks |
| [22:28:00] | Beirdo: | then try again |
| [22:29:00] | REyM]: | Beirdo -s |
| [22:29:00] | ** REyM] slaps himself ** | |
| [22:29:00] | REyM]: | I really am a noob :l |
| [22:30:00] | pirre: | we've all been there! |
| [22:30:00] | hadees: | check out this mythtv in a car, http://www.timekiller.org/carpc/ |
| [22:30:00] | ** xris sees that hadees reads the mailing list ** | |
| [22:30:00] | fatmatt: | xris: cannot mount on /mnt/tdx_data: Operation not permitted |
| [22:31:00] | xris: | (a day late) |
| [22:31:00] | xris: | fatmatt: weird |
| [22:31:00] | xris: | dunno, I just use automount |
| [22:31:00] | hadees: | xris, hehe nope, i saw it on digg |
| [22:32:00] | hadees: | i don't think i would use mythtv for a car pc my self, if i were going to all that trouble i want gps |
| [22:32:00] | fatmatt: | I can get automount to work, because it works as root or sudo, but I don't want automount as its a laptop and I'm not always on this network |
| [22:32:00] | xris: | fatmatt: so pass uid= on the mount lines |
| [22:33:00] | xris: | oh |
| [22:33:00] | xris: | fatmatt: but that's the coolness of automount. don't access the drive and automount won't touch it. |
| [22:33:00] | xris: | automount only mounts things when you try to access them |
| [22:33:00] | fatmatt: | hmm |
| [22:33:00] | fatmatt: | vaguely I remember timeouts |
| [22:33:00] | fatmatt: | on boot |
| [22:33:00] | fatmatt: | but I'll give it a shot |
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| [22:34:00] | REyM]: | hmm |
| [22:34:00] | REyM]: | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXvMCW |
| [22:34:00] | fatmatt: | thanks xris |
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| [22:35:00] | REyM]: | but I got mplayer to work with via xvmc |
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| [22:36:00] | fatmatt: | ffs I think I've figured it |
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| [22:37:00] | REyM]: | I am makeing with ./configure --enable-xvmc-vld --disable-joystick-menu |
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| [22:37:00] | Beirdo: | if you are enabling xvmc, make sure you have the libs installed |
| [22:38:00] | REyM]: | Beirdo but I got mplayer to work with xvmc |
| [22:38:00] | ** Beirdo shrugs ** | |
| [22:38:00] | Beirdo: | it's saying it can't find the lib |
| [22:38:00] | xris: | fatmatt: automount/autofs is quite unstable... but usually at shutdown or during use, not at boot. |
| [22:39:00] | fatmatt: | some of the mount points in /mnt are set as owned by root |
| [22:41:00] | fatmatt: | weird, I can mount some stuff fine there |
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| [22:44:00] | REyM]: | Beirdo is there a way to make it look in other places? |
| [22:44:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
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| [22:45:00] | Beirdo: | the file /etc/ld.so.conf tells the system what directories to search for libs in |
| [22:45:00] | Beirdo: | likely you have it installed to /usr/local/lib, which is likely not in there |
| [22:45:00] | Beirdo: | if so, add it (as root), then ldconfig |
| [22:45:00] | REyM]: | ok, thanks |
| [22:46:00] | REyM]: | nope, I noobed, again |
| [22:46:00] | Beirdo: | tis OK, you have to learn somehow |
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| [23:01:00] | fatmatt: | where do you tell xdm/gdm which window manager to use? |
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| [23:10:00] | REyM]: | I now have a error compiling mpegstreamdata. it is quite a long error, is there a pastebin where I can put it? |
| [23:12:00] | pirre: | pastebin.com? |
| [23:12:00] | pirre: | REyM]: can I ask you, what distribution are you using? |
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| [23:12:00] | REyM]: | pirre debian |
| [23:13:00] | REyM]: | http://pastebin.com/334899 |
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| [23:17:00] | pirre: | REyM]: have you compiled dvbdev ? |
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| [23:22:00] | pirre: | REyM]: if you google for "mythtv debian .deb" you'll find debian packages for mythtv |
| [23:22:00] | REyM]: | pirre I installed those but I can't find if it was compiled with xvmc support |
| [23:22:00] | pirre: | REyM]: ah, okay |
| [23:22:00] | REyM]: | I apt-getted the dvb stuff |
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| [23:23:00] | pirre: | REyM]: from what I interpret from the error, the header file where the PESPacket variable is declared is missing |
| [23:24:00] | pirre: | so I googled for "PESPacket" |
| [23:24:00] | pirre: | it's declared in a file called mpegtables.h, among others |
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| [23:27:00] | REyM]: | pirre but what are you suggesting then? |
| [23:27:00] | REyM]: | I am googling for mpegtables.h but can't really find anything |
| [23:28:00] | pirre: | not really sure |
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| [23:28:00] | pirre: | me neither |
| [23:28:00] | pirre: | are you compiling the sources in the right order? |
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| [23:34:00] | REyM]: | pirre uhm, the documents says that I should just do configure, qmake mythpro and then push make |
| [23:35:00] | REyM]: | uhm, I don't know how "push" got there :/ |
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| [23:48:00] | pirre: | REyM]: oh |
| [23:48:00] | REyM]: | any clue? |
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| [23:49:00] | pirre: | no, sorry :/ |
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| [23:52:00] | pirre: | I'm off to bed |
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