| Tuesday, August 9th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | adante: | just tried to backup my mythconverg and realised it takes 59meg of a 62meg database |
| [00:00:00] | JayRC: | or is there a way to make it send without waiting for a response? |
| [00:00:00] | JayRC: | if I do the command like 4 or 5 times in a row, it finally gets it right |
| [00:00:00] | JayRC: | so it's not too far off |
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| [00:22:00] | hadeees: | so i am trying to get through the bs, are pvr 150s well supported or not? because i hear that they are and yet i hear alot of people having problems, so i don't know if those people just don't know what they are doing |
| [00:22:00] | hadeees: | also what about the pvr500 |
| [00:25:00] | rw: | depends on the version. |
| [00:25:00] | rw: | but it's likely 150 and 250 will work. |
| [00:26:00] | hadeees: | rw, hmm what about the version with the fm radio |
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| [00:41:00] | mchou: | jonK: how you like your chair? |
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| [01:03:00] | Agrajag-: | bit off topic, but maybe someone here has come across this problem before – i have 3 cards, one of which i want to use lirc with |
| [01:04:00] | Agrajag-: | im tring to load the lirc_gpio module, but it tells me my card isn't supported (i've checked the lirc_gpio.c source and it apperas that it is) |
| [01:04:00] | CanadaBoy: | anyone here using xbox myth? |
| [01:04:00] | Agrajag-: | i think it's trying to use the wrong card |
| [01:04:00] | Agrajag-: | (i have 2 dvb and one analogue, i want it to use the analogue card) |
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| [01:11:00] | abracadabra: | i'm having a problem with some of the modules ingoring the ESC key after a while |
| [01:12:00] | abracadabra: | seems some others have had same problem from posts in the archive |
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| [01:37:00] | Beirdo: | fuh-huck |
| [01:37:00] | Beirdo: | bought a 256MB SO-DIMM for the laptop... it won't work |
| [01:38:00] | Beirdo: | http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/do . . . d=MIGR-44619 |
| [01:38:00] | Beirdo: | uncle-fuckers |
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| [01:40:00] | MrSpiffy: | yp mon |
| [01:40:00] | MrSpiffy: | yo |
| [01:40:00] | kormoc: | how nice |
| [01:41:00] | MrSpiffy: | anybody ever see an unable to open inout MAD error trying to play an mp3? |
| [01:42:00] | Beirdo: | I'm gonna have to scream |
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| [01:43:00] | Beirdo: | dillholes! |
| [01:43:00] | fatmatt: | heres a question, lets say hda1 filled up with logs, (mysql seems to generate large log files), is it possible that the root partition (hda1) would be remounted read only? |
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| [01:44:00] | Riff-Raff: | bad idea |
| [01:44:00] | Riff-Raff: | why not just stop mysql from logging so verbosely? |
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| [01:45:00] | fatmatt: | I'm trying to work out whats happened, I'll work on stopping it from happening once I can get it booting up with network access again. |
| [01:45:00] | Beirdo: | boot in single user mode |
| [01:45:00] | Beirdo: | clean up the mess |
| [01:45:00] | Jibbas: | I have a legality question. As long as I don't trade/sell/anything else, I can use MythTV just like a VCR is that correct? |
| [01:45:00] | Beirdo: | reboot |
| [01:45:00] | fatmatt: | I'm not able to get physical access to the machine and the read only thing is stopping it from going online so I can get at it from here |
| [01:46:00] | Beirdo: | Jibbas, depends on the country, but basically yes |
| [01:46:00] | Jibbas: | Well what about the states? |
| [01:46:00] | Beirdo: | if it's for personal use, it's functionally a VCR |
| [01:46:00] | Beirdo: | of course, I am not a lawyer |
| [01:46:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [01:46:00] | fatmatt: | reboot doesn;t progress to starting sshd |
| [01:47:00] | Jibbas: | I have been reading up on it, trying to make sure I comply with everything |
| [01:47:00] | Jibbas: | however my luck ill buy all the hw and they will change the law on me |
| [01:47:00] | ** Beirdo tells IBM to comply with specs, you bastards! ** | |
| [01:48:00] | Beirdo: | so this SO-DIMM is going back |
| [01:48:00] | Agrajag-: | Jibbas: they're not about to make vcr's and pvr's illegal... |
| [01:48:00] | Beirdo: | and they say "no returns" |
| [01:48:00] | Beirdo: | fuck them |
| [01:48:00] | Beirdo: | exchange only, my ass, it doesn't work |
| [01:48:00] | Jibbas: | well I suppose I am talking about the broadcast rule |
| [01:48:00] | Jibbas: | *flag |
| [01:48:00] | Beirdo: | there is no broadcast flag, move on |
| [01:48:00] | Jibbas: | right i know. |
| [01:49:00] | Jibbas: | I just wait for it to come back, they will try again. |
| [01:49:00] | Agrajag-: | Jibbas: so? if you buy your hardware now, you're fine anyway |
| [01:49:00] | abracadabra: | anyone have a suggestion for my no response to the ESC key? |
| [01:49:00] | Jibbas: | yeah and hte only real piece of hw that matters is the tuner card |
| [01:49:00] | Beirdo: | just move to a civilized country where the MPAA and RIAA don't run the government. |
| [01:49:00] | Jibbas: | ill be right on that |
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| [01:50:00] | Jibbas: | alright thanks guys |
| [01:51:00] | Beirdo: | and I asked specifically for PC100 |
| [01:51:00] | Beirdo: | the ass gave me PC133 |
| [01:52:00] | Beirdo: | didn't notice till I got home |
| [01:52:00] | NightBird: | bah |
| [01:54:00] | Riff-Raff: | anyone using Pundit-AE3 ? |
| [01:57:00] | Krazyleg1: | I think xris is. |
| [01:57:00] | Krazyleg1: | Somebody here is. |
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| [01:58:00] | ** xris uses an original pundit. ** | |
| [01:58:00] | xris: | the AE3 is something completely new, I think |
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| [01:58:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh, sorry. |
| [01:58:00] | Riff-Raff: | amd64 box, with 754 socket, only the SIS 760GX seems not to be so good |
| [01:59:00] | Riff-Raff: | according to http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsispart1.shtml#13 |
| [01:59:00] | Riff-Raff: | I was just wondering if that is a problem with only one display |
| [02:08:00] | ** NightBird attempts to install myth manually in Ubuntu ** | |
| [02:09:00] | abracadabra: | anyone have a suggestion for my no response to the ESC key? |
| [02:10:00] | NightBird: | dang.... no good.... apparently my copies became corrupted.. |
| [02:12:00] | NightBird: | supper time |
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| [02:19:00] | abracadabra: | *yawn* |
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| [02:26:00] | Chacabaou: | How am I supposed to configure a backend (compiled with --disable-frontend), when there's no mythtv-setup? Is this intentional? |
| [02:27:00] | Mrgoose: | ? |
| [02:27:00] | Mrgoose: | in the setup directory there should be a mythtv-setup |
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| [02:32:00] | Chacabaou: | Mrgoose: Actually yes, but it's not built with --disable-frontend. |
| [02:32:00] | Mrgoose: | oh |
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| [02:33:00] | Chacabaou: | Mrgoose: Maybe, it's recommended to run the mythtv-setup-stuff from another machine, that has a frontend. Such a machine is needed anyways. |
| [02:34:00] | Chacabaou: | Any dev in here? |
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| [02:44:00] | Mrgoose: | ChanServ |
| [02:44:00] | Mrgoose: | Chacabaou |
| [02:44:00] | Mrgoose: | when i run mythtv-setup |
| [02:44:00] | Mrgoose: | and choose capture cards |
| [02:44:00] | Mrgoose: | it freezes up my system |
| [02:45:00] | Mrgoose: | is open gl needed or somethin |
| [02:46:00] | Mrgoose: | i click on capture cards and choose new card |
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| [02:46:00] | Mrgoose: | and it freezes my system |
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| [04:35:00] | xris: | wow, kormoc completely offline.. that's rare. |
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| [05:16:00] | Atamido: | Yes, I have finally succeeded in disposing of him. |
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| [05:20:00] | SarahEmm: | anyone noticing much higher CPU needs and possibly memory leaks in .18.1? |
| [05:20:00] | xris: | nope.. (then again, that's about when I got my pvr-150 ;) |
| [05:21:00] | SarahEmm: | ahh |
| [05:21:00] | SarahEmm: | livetv used to leave me with a good 30% free CPU and now eats up *everything* |
| [05:21:00] | SarahEmm: | if i ssh into the box while it's doing it i get frame drops from that |
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| [05:22:00] | SarahEmm: | and it's been up 3wks without a reboot and i just ran out of RAM on the box (1GB) |
| [05:22:00] | SarahEmm: | i was fine at the last version =- |
| [05:22:00] | SarahEmm: | =-/ |
| [05:22:00] | ** SarahEmm is in bttv land still ** | |
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| [05:25:00] | Mrgoose: | hello |
| [05:25:00] | Mrgoose: | when i try to mythfilldatabase |
| [05:25:00] | Mrgoose: | i get this error |
| [05:25:00] | Mrgoose: | Unmarking repeats from grabber that fall within our new episode window...found 9 |
| [05:25:00] | Mrgoose: | 2005-08–08 23:24:33.242 Connecting to backend server: 192.168.0.133:6543 (try 1 of 5) |
| [05:25:00] | Mrgoose: | 2005-08–08 23:24:33.252 Using protocol version 15 |
| [05:25:00] | SarahEmm: | that's not an error |
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| [05:25:00] | Mrgoose: | heh yea i just realized that hwen i pasted it |
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| [05:28:00] | SarahEmm: | okay... |
| [05:28:00] | SarahEmm: | heh |
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| [05:30:00] | Agrajag-: | SarahEmm: there's a recent post saying they've noticed improvements in latest svn |
| [05:30:00] | SarahEmm: | ahh cool |
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| [05:30:00] | SarahEmm: | i should get on writing new code for ivtv to make it more functional with pvr-500s =-/ |
| [05:30:00] | SarahEmm: | kitriches haven't had much time lately |
| [05:33:00] | Exstatica: | anybody know why the tv output would be in black and white? |
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| [05:44:00] | Atamido: | Wrong encoding? |
| [05:44:00] | Atamido: | Tuning a little bit off? |
| [05:46:00] | Exstatica: | no |
| [05:46:00] | Exstatica: | it's hooked up to a cable box |
| [05:46:00] | xris: | Exstatica: is the input b&w? |
| [05:47:00] | Mrgoose: | sup im using geforce 4 mx4000, and like when i start up my system i can see the console fine but when i go into X, then exit back to console all i see is a bunch of colored dots |
| [05:47:00] | Exstatica: | the video coming out of the cable box is correct, but from the backend to the frontened it's only black and white |
| [05:48:00] | Exstatica: | cat /dev/video0 is also black and white |
| [05:48:00] | xris: | Exstatica: ivtv? |
| [05:48:00] | xris: | svideo? |
| [05:48:00] | Exstatica: | ivtv |
| [05:48:00] | Exstatica: | tuner |
| [05:48:00] | xris: | what card? |
| [05:48:00] | Exstatica: | pvr-350 |
| [05:48:00] | xris: | (and doesn't your box have a composite plug?) |
| [05:49:00] | xris: | best suggestion is to try a different version of ivtv. |
| [05:49:00] | Exstatica: | i'm using 3.7b |
| [05:49:00] | xris: | I fought against b&w ivtv for a long with with the svideo port on my 150 |
| [05:49:00] | xris: | Exstatica: why not using the stable branch? (and there is no 3.x tree, only 0.3.x) |
| [05:50:00] | Exstatica: | because i also have a pvr-150 |
| [05:50:00] | Exstatica: | which i havn't gotten to work yet |
| [05:50:00] | xris: | I'm pretty sure they're incompatible... need separate installs of the driver. |
| [05:51:00] | Exstatica: | any information on how to do that? |
| [05:52:00] | Exstatica: | i just don't know why it's black and white |
| [05:55:00] | xris: | ot |
| [05:55:00] | xris: | it's b&w because of a bug in the driver.. happens sometimes. |
| [05:56:00] | xris: | as for installing under a different prefix (eg. unstable_), I don't know. should be some info out there. I know that axel does it for the drivers on atrpms.ebnt |
| [05:56:00] | xris: | net |
| [05:59:00] | Exstatica: | did you get your 150 to work? |
| [06:05:00] | xris: | Exstatica: yeah, it always did. was just a matter of finding a driver version that worked. |
| [06:06:00] | xris: | anything after 0.3.2u didn't work for a long time, but I recently upgraded to something newer, and it worked again. |
| [06:08:00] | Exstatica: | what version are you running? |
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| [06:25:00] | Exstatica: | xris, which version are you running? |
| [06:25:00] | Mrgoose: | anyone here using xfce desktop? |
| [06:26:00] | xris: | Exstatica: 0.3.6o — not that it should matter, since the 150 and 350 use completely different chips (as do svideo vs tuner) |
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| [06:28:00] | Exstatica: | i just don't see why it' |
| [06:28:00] | Exstatica: | it's black and white |
| [06:28:00] | Mrgoose: | cat /dev/video0 > /tmp/test.mpg |
| [06:28:00] | Mrgoose: | cat: /dev/video0: No such device |
| [06:28:00] | Mrgoose: | any ideas about that |
| [06:28:00] | Exstatica: | Mrgoose, check dmesg |
| [06:28:00] | Exstatica: | look for initialized |
| [06:28:00] | xris: | Mrgoose: lsmod | grep ivtv |
| [06:28:00] | Mrgoose: | lsmod |grep ivtv |
| [06:28:00] | Mrgoose: | ivtv 78244 1 (initializing) |
| [06:28:00] | Mrgoose: | i2c-algo-bit 7684 0 (autoclean) [ivtv] |
| [06:28:00] | Mrgoose: | i2c-core 15268 0 (autoclean) [ivtv msp3400 saa7115 tuner i2c-algo-bit] |
| [06:28:00] | Mrgoose: | videodev 5760 1 (autoclean) [ivtv] |
| [06:29:00] | xris: | Exstatica: why is it so hard to understand that there's a bug in the *unstable* version of the driver? |
| [06:29:00] | xris: | it would be MUCH more productive to join the ivtv list and report the problem. |
| [06:29:00] | Exstatica: | ok i apologize |
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| [06:30:00] | xris: | until it's fixed, your best chances for success are to either use the stable tree, or start trying older versions of the unstable tree until one works. |
| [06:31:00] | Mrgoose: | dmesg |grep ivtv |
| [06:31:00] | Mrgoose: | ivtv: version 0.1.9 (release) loading |
| [06:31:00] | Mrgoose: | ivtv: SGarray_size = 340, DSGarray_size = 16 |
| [06:31:00] | Mrgoose: | ivtv: Found an iTVC16 based chip |
| [06:31:00] | Exstatica: | Mrgoose, dmesg|grep initialized |
| [06:31:00] | Mrgoose: | nothing came back |
| [06:32:00] | Exstatica: | then it's not loading correctly |
| [06:32:00] | Exstatica: | dmesg|more |
| [06:32:00] | Exstatica: | and look for errors right after the ivtv comment lines |
| [06:33:00] | Mrgoose: | there are no errors |
| [06:36:00] | fronkonstin: | stupid question from new user: yesterday I tried to convert a nuv using nuvexport, and it brought the box to the ground, using up pretty much all 2GB of RAM and 1GB of swap; anything that I'm doing obviously wrong? |
| [06:37:00] | fronkonstin: | 'cause I don't think that's normal |
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| [06:40:00] | xris: | fronkonstin: 1950-12–06 – The Devil's Playground |
| [06:40:00] | xris: | oops |
| [06:40:00] | xris: | https://svn.forevermore.net/nuvexport/wiki/debug |
| [06:40:00] | xris: | sounds like one of the fifo's overloaded, though. |
| [06:40:00] | Exstatica: | xris, have you ever seen where the cat /dev/video is blank on a 150? it just stays at 0 bits |
| [06:40:00] | xris: | probably from a failed pipe or something. |
| [06:41:00] | xris: | Exstatica: nope |
| [06:41:00] | xris: | fronkonstin: and please make sure you have the latest version from my site — the distros are usually behind. |
| [06:41:00] | fronkonstin: | I downloaded it straight from the website yesterday |
| [06:41:00] | fronkonstin: | but I'll debug |
| [06:42:00] | fronkonstin: | the fifo sounds right, it was mythtranscode that grew and grew and grew |
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| [06:42:00] | Mrgoose: | anyone around? |
| [06:43:00] | fronkonstin: | another question, mythtv-UI related: is there a simple way to just use mythtv in a VCR way, as in "press-here-starts-recording" and "press-here-stops-recording"? |
| [06:44:00] | fronkonstin: | the reasoning is: I want to record something from an on-demand channel, so that's nowhere in the schedule; how do you do that? |
| [06:47:00] | Agrajag-: | custom recording |
| [06:47:00] | Agrajag-: | it's in the schedule recordings menu |
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| [06:48:00] | fronkonstin: | but that implies a specific start and a specific duration, afaik; can't I just do something to start and do something when I decide to end? |
| [06:50:00] | fronkonstin: | alternatively, I guess I could just extract the time I'm interested in from the live buffer, but in any case I don't know how to do that :) |
| [06:50:00] | Agrajag-: | you can just hit record while watching live tv |
| [06:51:00] | Agrajag-: | then go to recordings and use the 'stop recording' option |
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| [06:52:00] | fronkonstin: | I see... would the recording done that way span two shows if I don't stop it? I think the on-demand channel is structured in 2-hour segments in the guide (kind of like pseudo-shows) |
| [06:53:00] | fronkonstin: | anyway, I guess I can just try it, thanks for the tip |
| [06:54:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah that'd probably stop whenever that show in the guide stops |
| [06:54:00] | Agrajag-: | (so wouldn't span two shows) |
| [06:55:00] | Mrgoose: | anyone using lirc? |
| [06:55:00] | Agrajag-: | why is there guide data if it's on demand? |
| [06:56:00] | Krazylegz: | Mrgoose: Go ahead and ask, if you have a question. |
| [06:57:00] | Mrgoose: | for lirc which lines do i need to add to my /etc/modules.conf |
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| [06:59:00] | Krazylegz: | Which distro? Which remote? |
| [06:59:00] | Mrgoose: | slackware , packard bell serial remote |
| [07:00:00] | Krazylegz: | lirc_serial, probably. |
| [07:02:00] | Mrgoose: | cause when i boot up without the lirc lines in modules.conf i can cat /dev/video0 > /tmp/test.mpg fine but when i have the lirc lines in modules.conf and i try that cat line i get no device found /dev/video0 |
| [07:02:00] | Exstatica: | damit... still black and white with just the pvr-350 and the 0.2 branch |
| [07:02:00] | Krazylegz: | Mrgoose: Put your modules.conf in Pastebin. |
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| [07:03:00] | \dev\null: | hey is anyone here ? |
| [07:03:00] | Exstatica: | yeah |
| [07:03:00] | \dev\null: | what is mythtv all about |
| [07:04:00] | \dev\null: | ive heard of it before ... |
| [07:04:00] | Mrgoose: | Krazylegz: http://pastebin.com/332670 |
| [07:04:00] | Agrajag-: | mythtv.org |
| [07:04:00] | Exstatica: | read the topic |
| [07:04:00] | Mrgoose: | \dev\null: its like tivo on crack mythtv.org |
| [07:04:00] | \dev\null: | do u have to pay for it ? |
| [07:04:00] | Mrgoose: | no |
| [07:04:00] | Exstatica: | opensourse |
| [07:04:00] | Exstatica: | source |
| [07:04:00] | fronkonstin: | Agrajag-: frankly I don't know; that's the way it shows up from zap2it; but let me start the box and check... |
| [07:04:00] | Mrgoose: | its a bitch to set up though, works fine after that usually though |
| [07:04:00] | fronkonstin: | it's comcast on-demand |
| [07:04:00] | \dev\null: | is mythtv a program i run on my computer |
| [07:04:00] | Mrgoose: | yes its software |
| [07:05:00] | Agrajag-: | \dev\null: go to mythtv.org and read teh docs |
| [07:05:00] | \dev\null: | oh i guess that i need a tv capture card to make this work right ? |
| [07:06:00] | Krazylegz: | Mrgoose: I think this line is wrong: add above ivtv lirc_dev lirc_serial . |
| [07:06:00] | Mrgoose: | thats why i commented it out |
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| [07:06:00] | Mrgoose: | still doesn't work with that commented out |
| [07:06:00] | Krazylegz: | ivtv is for the PVR-250, but you have a separate serial IR receiver. |
| [07:06:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh. |
| [07:06:00] | Krazylegz: | What about if you take out all three of those lines? |
| [07:07:00] | Mrgoose: | then i can cat /dev/video0 > /tmp/test.mpg with no problem |
| [07:07:00] | Agrajag-: | \dev\null: people didn't put in hours of their time writing those docs so you could ignore them |
| [07:08:00] | Krazylegz: | Do you have to take out both of them? |
| [07:09:00] | \dev\null: | wow mythtv sounds cool |
| [07:09:00] | Krazylegz: | I mean, both of the other ones. |
| [07:09:00] | Krazylegz: | It IS cool. |
| [07:09:00] | \dev\null: | my sattelite provider charges $5 a month for a tivo like service |
| [07:09:00] | \dev\null: | where u can rewind fast forward tv |
| [07:09:00] | Krazylegz: | This is better anyway. |
| [07:09:00] | \dev\null: | dont you need to have that kind of service on the sattelite in order to go forward or backwards ? |
| [07:09:00] | Krazylegz: | \dev\null: http://mysettopbox.tv/ . Start downloading, then start reading. |
| [07:10:00] | Krazylegz: | No. |
| [07:10:00] | \dev\null: | how is that done then ? |
| [07:10:00] | Agrajag-: | it records everything to your hdd |
| [07:10:00] | Krazylegz: | I will kill people. |
| [07:10:00] | Krazylegz: | I keed, I keed. |
| [07:10:00] | \dev\null: | ok |
| [07:10:00] | \dev\null: | how do u fast forward ? |
| [07:11:00] | Agrajag-: | you press the fast forward button |
| [07:11:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, you can't fast forward past the current time. |
| [07:11:00] | \dev\null: | you cant fast forward something that hasnt aired yet if i understand you corretly |
| [07:11:00] | \dev\null: | oh |
| [07:11:00] | Krazylegz: | Right. |
| [07:11:00] | Agrajag-: | of course |
| [07:11:00] | \dev\null: | thats what i mean |
| [07:11:00] | Krazylegz: | That would be disturbingly cool. |
| [07:11:00] | \dev\null: | tivo lets u fast forward past the current time doesnt it |
| [07:11:00] | Agrajag-: | no.... |
| [07:11:00] | Krazylegz: | Uh, no. |
| [07:11:00] | Agrajag-: | how is that possible |
| [07:11:00] | Agrajag-: | have they also figured out how to time travel |
| [07:11:00] | Krazylegz: | Heh, that would be great when I was watching the news. |
| [07:11:00] | \dev\null: | then those ads where they show people fast forwarding commercials |
| [07:12:00] | \dev\null: | is that bullshit ? |
| [07:12:00] | Agrajag-: | look... you can pause it |
| [07:12:00] | Krazylegz: | "Live from Iraq..." I think not! |
| [07:12:00] | Agrajag-: | then later fast foward |
| [07:12:00] | Agrajag-: | you can't fast forward past 'live' |
| [07:12:00] | \dev\null: | so if im watching a movie |
| [07:12:00] | \dev\null: | i cant fast forward the commercials |
| [07:12:00] | \dev\null: | thats fcking lame |
| [07:12:00] | Agrajag-: | yes you can |
| [07:12:00] | Agrajag-: | you start watching it 15 minutes late |
| [07:12:00] | \dev\null: | oh |
| [07:12:00] | Agrajag-: | you fast forward through all the ads |
| [07:12:00] | \dev\null: | but if i watch a movie as its airing |
| [07:12:00] | Agrajag-: | by the time the movie ends, you've caught up to real time |
| [07:13:00] | \dev\null: | then theres no way to fast forward right ? |
| [07:13:00] | Krazylegz: | NO. |
| [07:13:00] | Agrajag-: | far out |
| [07:13:00] | Agrajag-: | genius |
| [07:13:00] | Agrajag-: | not unless you invent time travel |
| [07:13:00] | \dev\null: | thats what i was asking |
| [07:13:00] | \dev\null: | well.. |
| [07:13:00] | Agrajag-: | that's what we answered 10 minutes ago |
| [07:13:00] | Krazylegz: | MythTV is not time travel. Does that answer your question? |
| [07:13:00] | \dev\null: | if i could time travel id go back in time and get rid of martha stewart |
| [07:14:00] | fronkonstin: | yeah my ondemand channel is structured in 4-hour segments in the guide |
| [07:15:00] | Agrajag-: | fronkonstin: only way i can think is for you to do the custom schedule thing then.. hitting record on live tv will stop when the current show finishes in the guide |
| [07:15:00] | Agrajag-: | if it doesn't span over 2 shows, you'd be ok to just hit record though |
| [07:15:00] | fronkonstin: | hmmm, ok |
| [07:16:00] | fronkonstin: | it'd be great if it were possible to integrate on-demand into this thing |
| [07:16:00] | \dev\null: | Agrajag- one thing though. if i start watching a movie 15 minutes late but then fast forward thru commercials assuming the commercials are 5 minutes long, after fast forwarding 3 times then id be caught up to real time |
| [07:16:00] | \dev\null: | right ? |
| [07:17:00] | fronkonstin: | \dev\null: yup |
| [07:17:00] | Agrajag-: | what sort of commercials are 5 minutes long!? |
| [07:17:00] | fronkonstin: | \dev\null: so next time you start 30 minutes late |
| [07:17:00] | \dev\null: | lol yea |
| [07:17:00] | \dev\null: | 30 for movies |
| [07:17:00] | Agrajag-: | what sort of movie has 30 minutes of ads |
| [07:17:00] | Agrajag-: | i wouldn't watch that channel |
| [07:17:00] | Agrajag-: | or live in that country :P |
| [07:18:00] | \dev\null: | 30 minutes total |
| [07:18:00] | Agrajag-: | for a 2 1/2 hour movie? |
| [07:18:00] | \dev\null: | the movies on my sattelite have a lot of commercials |
| [07:18:00] | \dev\null: | yea |
| [07:18:00] | Agrajag-: | that's insane! |
| [07:18:00] | Agrajag-: | what country is this? |
| [07:18:00] | \dev\null: | the movies run for 3 hours total |
| [07:18:00] | \dev\null: | usa |
| [07:18:00] | Agrajag-: | ahaha figures |
| [07:18:00] | \dev\null: | on the tv guide thing |
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| [07:18:00] | \dev\null: | but the movie itself might be 2 hours and another hour of commercials |
| [07:19:00] | Agrajag-: | that's... ridiculous |
| [07:19:00] | \dev\null: | well its true |
| [07:19:00] | Krazylegz: | Agrajag: Where do you live? |
| [07:19:00] | Agrajag-: | australia |
| [07:19:00] | Krazylegz: | Oooo. |
| [07:20:00] | Agrajag-: | i guess we're not too far off though |
| [07:20:00] | Agrajag-: | maybe 15–20 minutes of ads in a movie |
| [07:20:00] | fronkonstin: | I'm from Spain (although I live in the US now); in Spain you can easily get 10 minutes straight of commencials if you watch tv at the wrong time; I've seen simpson's episodes that stretch to 45 minutes |
| [07:20:00] | Agrajag-: | i dont watch much commercial tv though |
| [07:21:00] | fronkonstin: | if you want weather info, you have to wait for about 15 minutes of commercials after the news |
| [07:21:00] | fronkonstin: | makes you wanna kill someone; except that since DPVRs were invented, it's not necessary anymore and we can all get along |
| [07:23:00] | fronkonstin: | another on-demand related question |
| [07:23:00] | fronkonstin: | say I record something sucessfully; but it'll be labeled as "On demand" |
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| [07:24:00] | fronkonstin: | is there any way to change the attributes, and assign that recording to be some media content, by for example pointing mythtv to an imdb entry? |
| [07:25:00] | Mrgoose: | now the next problem im having is that mythtv takes up my entire screen like half of the mythtv is out of the screen |
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| [07:33:00] | travolta: | Mrgoose, your problem with exiting xwindows and getting coloured dots; i get that too |
| [07:34:00] | Mrgoose: | i fixed that one |
| [07:34:00] | travolta: | how? |
| [07:34:00] | Mrgoose: | you using lilo? |
| [07:34:00] | travolta: | i think its cause of tvout |
| [07:34:00] | travolta: | yea |
| [07:34:00] | Mrgoose: | ok |
| [07:34:00] | Mrgoose: | go to your lilo.conf |
| [07:34:00] | travolta: | ok |
| [07:35:00] | Mrgoose: | and change vga to normal |
| [07:35:00] | Mrgoose: | like vga=normal |
| [07:35:00] | travolta: | oh, i got mine set to vga=773 (1024x768) |
| [07:36:00] | Mrgoose: | yea tahts what i had to |
| [07:36:00] | travolta: | but i think if i disable tvout it will fix it too |
| [07:36:00] | Mrgoose: | the problem im having now is mythtv taking up more than the whole screen |
| [07:37:00] | travolta: | theres a setting to set the screen size |
| [07:37:00] | travolta: | think its called overscan |
| [07:37:00] | travolta: | or you can use the --geometry RESxRES commandline option |
| [07:46:00] | Exstatica: | i'm getting black and white on pvr-350 |
| [07:46:00] | Exstatica: | i'm using the composite for input this time |
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| [07:56:00] | xris: | Exstatica: b&w on composite, too? (btw, better choice for quality) |
| [08:03:00] | Krazylegz: | Heh. Also a fine choice if you're colorblind. |
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| [08:09:00] | Netslayer: | can someone paste their xine start line for dvd playback? |
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| [08:20:00] | Krazylegz: | Sweet, wireless is finally working properly. |
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| [08:26:00] | k-man: | anyone here played with mythgame? |
| [08:26:00] | k-man: | or whatever its called? |
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| [08:30:00] | Krazylegz: | Does anyone here use a dual-head setup with the same thing on each screen (clone)? |
| [08:40:00] | fatmatt: | I've had dual head in the past, both extended and cloned |
| [08:41:00] | fatmatt: | extended is nice |
| [08:41:00] | fatmatt: | myth running on the main, desktop on the other |
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| [08:45:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah i do that now. it's awesome |
| [08:46:00] | Agrajag-: | so i have my normal desktop on :0.0 and myth on :0.1 (going to a tv) |
| [08:51:00] | k-man: | Agrajag-, yeah, thats what I'll do once I have it going too |
| [08:52:00] | Krazylegz: | Agrajag: That's not a bad idea. Do you have your XF86Config for that? |
| [08:52:00] | Krazylegz: | Or fatmatt. Sorry |
| [08:53:00] | adante: | i used to run dual-head with a seperate instance of myth on each – monitor in my room, and 8m cable to tv in living room) |
| [08:53:00] | adante: | not a very clean signal unfortunately :] |
| [08:56:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah here's my XF86Config |
| [08:56:00] | Agrajag-: | err gimme a sec |
| [08:57:00] | fatmatt: | Krazylegz: I used this guide http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors |
| [08:57:00] | Agrajag-: | http://home.whatsbeef.net:1339/~filip/XF86Config-4 |
| [08:57:00] | Agrajag-: | it's pretty simple |
| [08:58:00] | fatmatt: | yah |
| [08:58:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah, thanks. |
| [08:58:00] | Agrajag-: | it's good to actually understand how it all works instead of just copy/paste (not hard to understand) |
| [08:58:00] | Agrajag-: | then you can suit it to your setup |
| [08:59:00] | fatmatt: | my xorg.conf file is butchered, would confuse more than help, I've got it set up on my laptop for various locations,I edit lines in/out depending on where I am |
| [09:01:00] | Krazylegz: | Well, I wanted to see yours as an example for my own. :-) |
| [09:01:00] | Krazylegz: | This page is much better, though. |
| [09:03:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah i mean you should be able to look at mine and figure out how it works and make your own |
| [09:03:00] | Agrajag-: | :) |
| [09:03:00] | Agrajag-: | home time cya |
| [09:05:00] | Krazylegz: | Bedtime. Later guys. Thanks for the help. |
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| [11:39:00] | rarr: | does mythfilldatabase read from ~/.xmltv/whatevergrabberiused.conf ? |
| [11:49:00] | adante: | i don't think mythfilldatabase reads your grabber conf explicitly |
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| [11:50:00] | adante: | unless specified by --graboptions |
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| [12:52:00] | SynrG: | I have a perplexing problem with audio ... |
| [12:52:00] | SynrG: | sound works fine with mythtv *except* on one channel when one show comes on, and it's the same show, two days in a row ... |
| [12:53:00] | SynrG: | after that show starts, audio ceases to function, but only for that one channel |
| [12:53:00] | SynrG: | restarting the backend last night apparently fixed the problem |
| [12:53:00] | SynrG: | this morning, exactly when that one show started, audio cut out again |
| [12:53:00] | SynrG: | switching to another channel restores audio, and switching back, audio is still gone |
| [12:54:00] | SynrG: | trying to restart the backend this morning (after exiting the front end) and then trying to watch the show again (live) does not restore audio |
| [12:54:00] | SynrG: | toggling "mute" does nothing |
| [12:54:00] | SynrG: | adjusting volume does nothing |
| [12:55:00] | SynrG: | running 0.18.1–3 on sid |
| [13:00:00] | SynrG: | pvr-250 card, ivtv 0.2.0 (rc3j) on linux 2.6.11 (stock debian kernel for K7) |
| [13:00:00] | SynrG: | sb live value |
| [13:01:00] | SynrG: | (not that this last bit of info is likely to be relevant, given that audio otherwise functions perfectly) |
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| [13:09:00] | SynrG: | oh, and it seems unlikely the answer given in this thread is relevant: |
| [13:09:00] | SynrG: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/143733 |
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| [13:19:00] | SynrG: | this one *might* be relevant, as it deals with channel and programme-specific audio problems: |
| [13:20:00] | SynrG: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . ound;#141137 |
| [13:20:00] | SynrG: | but no solution is given |
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| [14:31:00] | k-man_: | hello |
| [14:31:00] | pirre: | hey |
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| [14:31:00] | XAD2000: | blip... |
| [14:31:00] | Hoxzer: | how I this software working with non american TV channels? |
| [14:32:00] | pirre: | Hoxzer: what country would that be? |
| [14:32:00] | k-man_: | i have this strange issue |
| [14:32:00] | Hoxzer: | finland |
| [14:32:00] | k-man_: | where i can't scan through all my channels when i press up arrow |
| [14:32:00] | k-man_: | i only get 3 of my channels |
| [14:32:00] | XAD2000: | well, fine... unless "America" has invaded Sweden already?? (BTW, I assume you mean US...) |
| [14:32:00] | k-man_: | and when i press down arrow, i get differnt channels, but not all of them |
| [14:33:00] | Hoxzer: | k-man_: I think you have wrong kind of drivers for your TV-card |
| [14:33:00] | k-man_: | Hoxzer, really? how did you work that out? |
| [14:33:00] | pirre: | Hoxzer: google.com +mythtv +EPG +finland |
| [14:33:00] | Hoxzer: | nah, it was just guess |
| [14:33:00] | XAD2000: | K, have you given them all an ID?? |
| [14:34:00] | Hoxzer: | Your search – Hoxzer: google.com +mythtv +EPG +finland – did not match any documents. |
| [14:34:00] | Hoxzer: | :D oops |
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| [14:35:00] | k-man_: | XAD2000, an ID? I think so |
| [14:35:00] | k-man_: | XAD2000, do all the IDs have to be unique? |
| [14:35:00] | XAD2000: | does anyone know if there is a Philips MK4 tuner datasheet out on the net?? |
| [14:35:00] | XAD2000: | k, you need to give them all a number (or at least the one you want to use) and they must (?) be unique as this number is used to identify the channel in other places of the program... |
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| [14:37:00] | k-man_: | XAD2000, ok, ill check that |
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| [14:39:00] | k-man_: | XAD2000, seems like they all have unique ids |
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| [14:40:00] | XAD2000: | post the sequence of numbers you get when using the up arrow... |
| [14:41:00] | k-man_: | um |
| [14:41:00] | k-man_: | channel numbers? |
| [14:41:00] | k-man_: | ok |
| [14:41:00] | k-man_: | hang on |
| [14:41:00] | k-man_: | abc |
| [14:42:00] | k-man_: | sbsd2 |
| [14:42:00] | k-man_: | 10 |
| [14:42:00] | k-man_: | 28 |
| [14:42:00] | k-man_: | then it loops back to sbsd2 |
| [14:42:00] | k-man_: | 10 |
| [14:42:00] | k-man_: | 28 etc... |
| [14:42:00] | XAD2000: | sorry, not the ID but the number... |
| [14:43:00] | k-man_: | number? |
| [14:43:00] | k-man_: | how do iknow which number? |
| [14:43:00] | XAD2000: | yes there is a channel number... |
| [14:43:00] | k-man_: | in the top left? |
| [14:43:00] | k-man_: | for a second after you change channel, then it fades? |
| [14:45:00] | k-man_: | that was the field called "channum" that i told you |
| [14:47:00] | XAD2000: | but that is a number... you posted... abc – sbs2 – 10 – 28... |
| [14:47:00] | k-man_: | yeah... well, i put letters in there |
| [14:47:00] | k-man_: | nothing stopped me |
| [14:47:00] | k-man_: | so i put letters in |
| [14:48:00] | k-man_: | channum is a varchar |
| [14:48:00] | k-man_: | so you should be able to put letters in |
| [14:48:00] | k-man_: | you think i should change them all to numbers? |
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| [14:49:00] | robin_: | How do I enable/disable the comb filter, and what is it exactly ? |
| [14:50:00] | robin_: | I want to have sharper images, because they are still blurry |
| [14:50:00] | XAD2000: | hmm, not sure... but you have a field for (sorry mine is in Swedish) "name", "short name", and "channel ID" or something... sbs2 should be the short name... try setting them to numbers, unless you already have started to record a lot of things... |
| [14:50:00] | XAD2000: | robin_: if you don't know what it is, why do you want to change it?? |
| [14:51:00] | k-man_: | ok, ill try numbers |
| [14:51:00] | robin_: | XAD2000: well I thought it should enhance the quality. |
| [14:51:00] | laga: | robin_: are you talking about the deinterlacing settings? |
| [14:52:00] | XAD2000: | have you tried changing the spatial and/or temporal filters?? hmm are you using ivtv BTW?? |
| [14:53:00] | robin_: | laga: I was reading the forums, and mailingslist, and saw ppl talking about the comb filter, which should give better quality pictures.. but I dont'know where to set it. |
| [14:53:00] | robin_: | XAD2000: yes i'm using ivtv, but the spatial and temporal settings only make itworst |
| [14:53:00] | robin_: | worse |
| [14:53:00] | laga: | robin_: it's in the settings of the frontend. TV -> playback |
| [14:54:00] | k-man_: | XAD2000, you are a legend |
| [14:54:00] | k-man_: | thanks |
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| [14:54:00] | k-man_: | that seems to have fixed the problem |
| [14:55:00] | XAD2000: | robin_: test with mplayer directly and make the screen the same size as the capture size. if it is a sharp picture then it's the players scaling or deinterlacing causing the blurr and not the encoder... |
| [14:55:00] | XAD2000: | k-man_: np... sometime to much freedom is not for the better... ;-) :-D |
| [14:56:00] | robin_: | XAD2000: well the blur exist without deinterlacing too. |
| [14:56:00] | robin_: | laga: it is called comb filter ?? .. i have not seen it there |
| [14:56:00] | k-man_: | XAD2000, yeah |
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| [14:56:00] | laga: | robin_: it's called deinterlacing. you could also try and enter 'denoise3d' into the filter box |
| [14:57:00] | robin_: | laga: hm,m so deinterlacing is the same as the 'comb' filter ? |
| [14:57:00] | robin_: | ok |
| [14:57:00] | robin_: | didn't knew that |
| [14:57:00] | laga: | robin_: well, deinterlacing is used to remove the combing you get from displaying an interlaced image on a non-interlaced display. |
| [14:58:00] | XAD2000: | robin_: did you try running without any scaling?? are you running on computer screen or tv?? |
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| [14:58:00] | XAD2000: | robin_: no it's not the same... but it can cause blurr... |
| [14:59:00] | robin_: | XAD2000: TV fullscreen |
| [15:00:00] | XAD2000: | ?? TV with progressive input?? |
| [15:01:00] | robin_: | XAD2000: no 4:3 PAL no progressive |
| [15:02:00] | XAD2000: | so why deinterlacing when the output will be interlaced again?? |
| [15:03:00] | robin_: | XAD2000: because it reduces the artifacts when there are fast movements on screen |
| [15:03:00] | robin_: | XAD2000: you know like you see motion blurring. or something like that |
| [15:04:00] | XAD2000: | yes, it does if you display it on a non-interlaced screen... |
| [15:04:00] | robin_: | it does too on interlace screen, I'm not crazy :D |
| [15:05:00] | XAD2000: | ohh, you rescale the picture.. right?? |
| [15:05:00] | laga: | XAD2000: i need to do deinterlacing, because the timing of the interlaced video is not the same as the timing of my TV. imho. |
| [15:05:00] | robin_: | XAD2000: no scaling |
| [15:05:00] | robin_: | Same thing as laga I suppose |
| [15:05:00] | XAD2000: | laga... but the optimal would be to run the output the same size as the caption and the same refreshrate... |
| [15:06:00] | XAD2000: | but, yes otherwise I understand why you do it... |
| [15:06:00] | robin_: | XAD2000: I have running it at 720x576@50hz (I) that is full pall right? |
| [15:06:00] | robin_: | full PAL |
| [15:07:00] | XAD2000: | yes... but if you, as laga, is running the videocard on different refreshrate, ex 60Hz, then you get into (refresh) trouble... |
| [15:07:00] | laga: | XAD2000: i do rescaling anyways. |
| [15:08:00] | robin_: | i'm running at 50Hz so does my TV> |
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| [15:08:00] | laga: | XAD2000: i record at 720x576, my X is configured to 800x600 and the tv-encoder chip in my vga card does its magic while breaking the sync |
| [15:08:00] | laga: | imho. |
| [15:09:00] | robin_: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/ivtv/devel/22452 <= here they talk about the comb filter and blur thing.. |
| [15:09:00] | rw: | laga, did you see your fix was commited yesterday by danielk? |
| [15:09:00] | robin_: | i have the PVR-150 btw |
| [15:10:00] | laga: | robin_: one sec, please! |
| [15:10:00] | XAD2000: | laga... ahh... OK... |
| [15:10:00] | laga: | rw: Compilation fix for non-XVMC compiles. <- but i am using xvmc ;) |
| [15:11:00] | rw: | post a bug, I can't test in here because I am missing a header. |
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| [15:15:00] | k-man_: | anyone here in Aus? |
| [15:16:00] | k-man_: | for some reason, mythfilldatabase updates all my channels except abc and seven |
| [15:16:00] | laga: | rw: well, i'll try compiling it again, it's possible tht it works now.. ;) |
| [15:16:00] | Agrajag-: | what script are you using k-man_? |
| [15:16:00] | Agrajag-: | the one posted in the user list lately works best |
| [15:16:00] | Agrajag-: | use that |
| [15:16:00] | k-man_: | Agrajag-, um...yeah |
| [15:16:00] | k-man_: | taht one |
| [15:16:00] | k-man_: | its cool |
| [15:16:00] | k-man_: | mark smith or something |
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| [15:17:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah.. works fine for me |
| [15:17:00] | Agrajag-: | check your xmltvids |
| [15:17:00] | rw: | laga, I don't think it will... |
| [15:17:00] | k-man_: | michale smith |
| [15:17:00] | Agrajag-: | gtg bed night |
| [15:17:00] | k-man_: | Agrajag-, yeah, i have double checked them |
| [15:17:00] | k-man_: | night Agrajag- |
| [15:18:00] | laga: | rw: neither do i, but it's worth a try, huh? ;) |
| [15:18:00] | rw: | of course! |
| [15:19:00] | rw: | I need to update my distro, this bug (missing header) is already fixed in debian unstable. |
| [15:19:00] | laga: | missing header? which one is it? |
| [15:20:00] | laga: | and it does not compile *sigh* |
| [15:21:00] | rw: | it's X11/extension/something |
| [15:22:00] | rw: | I would have to compile it again to say to you |
| [15:22:00] | laga: | rw: and the problem is with debian sarge? |
| [15:25:00] | rw: | I saw this bug was reported in debian, but already fixed. Affects ubuntu too. |
| [15:25:00] | laga: | ok. gotta try compiling latest SVN on my sarge box ;) |
| [15:26:00] | k-man_: | what can one do about 1 channel thats breaking up |
| [15:26:00] | k-man_: | with dvb? |
| [15:27:00] | laga: | k-man_: remove it from the databasE? |
| [15:28:00] | k-man_: | i mean |
| [15:28:00] | k-man_: | is there any software thing i can do to try and improve the picture? |
| [15:28:00] | k-man_: | im waiting for an antena amp that i ordered |
| [15:29:00] | robin_: | laga: btw, do you also have the grey osd with xvmc ? and stutering images while switching channels and seeking ? |
| [15:29:00] | laga: | robin_: yes. |
| [15:29:00] | robin_: | laga: will/can it be fixed in the near future :) ? |
| [15:29:00] | laga: | robin_: however, there is a experimental patch for color osd, but it didn't apply cleanly anymore against latest SVN. |
| [15:29:00] | laga: | robin_: search cvs.mythtv.org :) |
| [15:30:00] | robin_: | laga: well the grey osd i don't mind, i hate the stuttering imagess.. |
| [15:30:00] | robin_: | laga: or is that fixed also ? |
| [15:30:00] | laga: | robin_: dunno what to do about that. i don't use xvmc regulary |
| [15:30:00] | laga: | regularly* |
| [15:30:00] | robin_: | laga: ok |
| [15:32:00] | robin_: | also anothing thing.. I got the PVR-150 (no mce, so I have not radio), but the driver does recognize radio tuner.. just a bug in identifying ? |
| [15:33:00] | robin_: | just curious, not that i need it. |
| [15:44:00] | ivor: | laga: is the xvmc patch in trac out of step again? |
| [15:45:00] | laga: | ivor: the xvmc color osd patch, yes. |
| [15:45:00] | laga: | let me get you the ticket number |
| [15:45:00] | laga: | http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/101 |
| [15:48:00] | ivor: | updated. http://myth.ivor.org/unichrome/mythtv-osd.diff |
| [15:48:00] | k-man_: | whats the best way to get my remote to send its keys to mythtv? |
| [15:48:00] | k-man_: | and also to program which keys do what? |
| [15:48:00] | k-man_: | should I use Lirc? |
| [15:48:00] | laga: | k-man_: what remote do you have? |
| [15:49:00] | laga: | 15:48 < k-man_> and also to program which keys do what? |
| [15:49:00] | k-man_: | the one that came with the card |
| [15:49:00] | k-man_: | its a usb remote |
| [15:49:00] | laga: | ^^ mythcontrols or mythweb |
| [15:49:00] | k-man_: | and acts as a keyboard |
| [15:49:00] | k-man_: | if i press it now, its as though im pressing keys on my keyboard |
| [15:49:00] | laga: | k-man_: well, with LIRC being a pita, go for the keybopard route and map your keys with mythweb or the mythcontrols plugin |
| [15:50:00] | k-man_: | what does mythcontrols do? where can i find doco for mythcontrols? |
| [15:51:00] | laga: | k-man_: http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . trols/README |
| [15:51:00] | laga: | k-man_: and i dont know if mythcontrols is available for the last release |
| [15:52:00] | k-man_: | oh |
| [15:52:00] | k-man_: | ok |
| [15:52:00] | k-man_: | thanks |
| [15:52:00] | laga: | but mythweb should work just fine :) |
| [15:52:00] | k-man_: | you can program keys with mythweb? |
| [15:52:00] | k-man_: | how does that work? |
| [15:52:00] | laga: | k-man_: settings -> controls iirc |
| [15:52:00] | laga: | in mythweb |
| [15:53:00] | k-man_: | also, some of my keys on my remote only return events, but the events aren't mapped to anyhting yet |
| [15:53:00] | k-man_: | ok, ill have a look |
| [15:54:00] | k-man_: | theres no .deb of mythcontrols |
| [15:54:00] | k-man_: | ill have a look at mythweb |
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| [15:54:00] | AJC: | Where's all the cool visualizations for mythmusic? I can't seem to find new ones online |
| [15:55:00] | laga: | AJC: imho, the visualisations shipped with mythmusic are the only ones that are available |
| [15:56:00] | AJC: | laga: anymore themes around than the few that aren't shipped with mythtv that can be downloaded at mythtv.org??? :) |
| [15:56:00] | laga: | AJC: get myththemes |
| [15:56:00] | AJC: | I just downloaded a zip and installed them from mythtv.org. I like em. |
| [15:56:00] | k-man_: | wow, mythweb is sexy! |
| [15:56:00] | k-man_: | very sexy |
| [15:56:00] | laga: | k-man_: it's the spiff |
| [15:57:00] | k-man_: | yeah |
| [15:57:00] | laga: | AJC: a .zip? |
| [15:57:00] | AJC: | <--- I really like mythtv too |
| [15:57:00] | k-man_: | but i don;t want to change my keybindings |
| [15:57:00] | k-man_: | i'd rather remap my keys |
| [15:57:00] | AJC: | zip... oops... nevermind... |
| [15:57:00] | k-man_: | on the remote |
| [15:57:00] | k-man_: | i dunno |
| [15:57:00] | k-man_: | maybe thats silly |
| [15:57:00] | AJC: | How's myth game work? |
| [15:57:00] | laga: | AJC: great for me |
| [15:58:00] | k-man_: | but i have to remap the remote keys anyway as not all of them point to acutall key presses |
| [15:58:00] | AJC: | What's the simple steps? I have a bunch of my mame carts... I don't have a joystick though... I have been wanting to set it up for a few months. |
| [15:58:00] | k-man_: | ie, there is an event, but its not mapped to a key iykwim |
| [15:58:00] | laga: | k-man_: xmodmap? xev? |
| [15:58:00] | laga: | k-man_: take a look at their man pages. |
| [15:58:00] | k-man_: | yeah, tahts the route i'll have to take |
| [15:59:00] | AJC: | I think I might have to develop the videoLAN interface for MythTV... |
| [15:59:00] | AJC: | have you guys seen one yet? |
| [16:00:00] | laga: | AJC: search the -dev maing list, i've seen vlc being mentioned a few times |
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| [16:03:00] | AJC: | laga: thanks :) I'll look it up. |
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| [16:05:00] | GeckoFiend: | hey laga |
| [16:05:00] | GeckoFiend: | what does "Hier entsteht eine neue Internetpräsenz!" mean? |
| [16:07:00] | Tagada_: | "web site under construction" |
| [16:08:00] | laga: | *sigh* |
| [16:08:00] | laga: | ok ok. |
| [16:08:00] | k-man_: | sometimes when i change channel, it picks the wrong audio stream, and i have to press + to get it to change to the correct one |
| [16:08:00] | k-man_: | anyone else had that problem? |
| [16:08:00] | laga: | GeckoFiend: http://www.mythwiki.de/mediawiki-1.4.6/index.php/Hauptseite |
| [16:08:00] | laga: | i hate this crappy apache administration interface |
| [16:09:00] | GeckoFiend: | Tagada_ thanks babelfish was less than helpful |
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| [16:10:00] | k-man_: | anyway |
| [16:10:00] | k-man_: | i'm off to bed |
| [16:10:00] | k-man_: | night guys |
| [16:11:00] | laga: | GeckoFiend: what did it spit out? |
| [16:11:00] | GeckoFiend: | laga: "Here a new InterNet operational readiness level develops" |
| [16:13:00] | laga: | rotfl |
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| [16:25:00] | anaxagoras: | hello everybody |
| [16:25:00] | anaxagoras: | is there a possibility to get a mixer in the music-player of mythtv ? |
| [16:25:00] | anaxagoras: | i just want to turn the volume up and down |
| [16:25:00] | GeckoFiend: | anaxagoras of course there is. as long as you don't mind writing some code |
| [16:26:00] | anaxagoras: | GeckoFiend: hehe |
| [16:26:00] | anaxagoras: | i am not able to do that |
| [16:26:00] | GeckoFiend: | anaxagoras MythMusic *has* volume controls |
| [16:27:00] | anaxagoras: | really, could you please give me some hints where i can read all that .. |
| [16:27:00] | anaxagoras: | all i found were install howtos and tutorials. |
| [16:29:00] | anaxagoras: | GeckoFiend: or could you tell me the commands to regulate the volume ? |
| [16:29:00] | anaxagoras: | that would be kind |
| [16:29:00] | anaxagoras: | :) |
| [16:30:00] | Beirdo: | read the keys.txt file that comes with mythtv |
| [16:30:00] | anaxagoras: | okay i will do that |
| [16:30:00] | Beirdo: | it should tell you the default keybindings |
| [16:30:00] | anaxagoras: | thx .. |
| [16:30:00] | Beirdo: | not a problem |
| [16:33:00] | pirre: | I have a question: can you use a Hauppage pvr-150's tv-out to play other streams than from the cable input? |
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| [16:33:00] | laga: | pirre: the pvr 150 does not have a tv-out. |
| [16:33:00] | pirre: | laga: oh, bugger |
| [16:34:00] | pirre: | laga: I just saw the little yellow contact and assumed |
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| [16:34:00] | laga: | heh |
| [16:34:00] | pirre: | I seem to have misplaced my old geforce 2 :( |
| [16:35:00] | directhex|work: | the cat ate it |
| [16:35:00] | laga: | the geforce 4 does a better job at tv-out anyways ;) |
| [16:35:00] | cochi|away is now known as cochi | |
| [16:35:00] | directhex|work: | yes. gf2 tv-out is pretty poor compared to radeons of the same vintage |
| [16:35:00] | Beirdo: | "pretty poor"? |
| [16:36:00] | Beirdo: | it SUCKED compared to the radeons |
| [16:36:00] | directhex|work: | i think trying an SiS of the same vintage puyts it into perspective |
| [16:36:00] | pirre: | I might look for an older radeon then |
| [16:37:00] | Beirdo: | not really. Radeon was the best at that time, and even now is just as good as the geforce cards, I've found |
| [16:37:00] | Beirdo: | pirre: go with a 9200 or newer for best results, as far as I know |
| [16:37:00] | directhex|work: | at the time, a geforce 2 was light years ahead of an sis for tv out, though \o/ |
| [16:38:00] | pirre: | Beirdo: okay, thanks for the tip |
| [16:38:00] | Beirdo: | or alternatively... |
| [16:38:00] | Beirdo: | go with a geforce 4 |
| [16:38:00] | anaxagoras: | Beirdo: i cannot find this file |
| [16:38:00] | anaxagoras: | keys.txt |
| [16:38:00] | Beirdo: | they are likely easier to get behaving |
| [16:38:00] | Beirdo: | anaxagoras: it's in the distribution |
| [16:39:00] | pirre: | Beirdo: I'm trying to keep the budget down :) |
| [16:39:00] | Beirdo: | some of the new geforce4 are quite cheap |
| [16:39:00] | Beirdo: | I'm not telling you to get a 6800GT :) |
| [16:39:00] | anaxagoras: | Beirdo: i dont know what you mean with that .. i cannot find it in /etc/ or in the home-directory |
| [16:39:00] | directhex|work: | get a 6800Gt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| [16:39:00] | directhex|work: | there we go, _I_ am |
| [16:39:00] | Beirdo: | anaxagoras: it comes with the mythtv distribution files |
| [16:40:00] | directhex|work: | anyway, a geforce fx 5200 is silly cheap, and has reasonable tv out |
| [16:40:00] | Beirdo: | aye |
| [16:40:00] | Beirdo: | fx 5200 would be a good cheap card |
| [16:40:00] | directhex|work: | £20 or thereabouts. plus delvery |
| [16:42:00] | pirre: | directhex|work: dollars? |
| [16:42:00] | directhex|work: | GBP, the one true currency |
| [16:42:00] | pirre: | oh |
| [16:42:00] | Beirdo: | hah! |
| [16:42:00] | Beirdo: | directhex|work: you are truly deluded. |
| [16:42:00] | pirre: | I'll have to cough up about £45 here in sweden |
| [16:43:00] | Beirdo: | it should be about 40 euro or so, maybe a bit less |
| [16:43:00] | Krazylegz: | http://www.xe.com/ucc/ |
| [16:43:00] | directhex|work: | seems $37 or so for a 5200 with svideo, vga and dvi |
| [16:43:00] | Krazylegz: | Let's all just speak in Swiss Francs, okay? |
| [16:44:00] | Beirdo: | Italian lire |
| [16:44:00] | Krazylegz: | There will be no argument! |
| [16:44:00] | Krazylegz: | We'll use whatever Beirdo picks. :-) |
| [16:44:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:44:00] | directhex|work: | http://komplett.se/k/ki.asp?sku=308427&cks=PRL ? |
| [16:45:00] | pirre: | directhex|work: oh, cool |
| [16:45:00] | anaxagoras: | okay i dont find it. even not with the search |
| [16:46:00] | directhex|work: | step 1, look up product on komplett.co.uk, step 2, replace .co.uk with $someeuropeancountryending |
| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | other than the Swedish bork bork bork, that looks like a decent choice :) |
| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [16:46:00] | anaxagoras: | could you just tell me the default key for volume up and down? |
| [16:46:00] | pirre: | haha |
| [16:46:00] | pirre: | directhex|work: that card didn't seem to be available though :/ |
| [16:46:00] | Beirdo: | I'm not gonna go look it up for you, anaxagoras. some of us are trying to do work :) |
| [16:47:00] | Beirdo: | you can just go to svn.mythtv.org, and browse source, and find it in there |
| [16:48:00] | anaxagoras: | Beirdo: okay thx anyway. i just cant find the txt file or any dokumentation where the default funktions or keys are written down. |
| [16:48:00] | directhex|work: | bah, i can't find the bork bork bork edition of opera |
| [16:48:00] | Beirdo: | the file is keys.txt |
| [16:48:00] | directhex|work: | i'll set google to bork, that'll make me feel better |
| [16:50:00] | Krazylegz: | directhex|work: I think they dropped it. |
| [16:50:00] | Krazylegz: | It was Opera 7.01. |
| [16:50:00] | directhex|work: | :'( |
| [16:50:00] | Krazylegz: | I know. I was looking for it a few weeks ago. |
| [16:50:00] | ** directhex|work starts work on libbork, compiles moz against it ** | |
| [16:50:00] | Krazylegz: | Eww, Mozilla. |
| [16:50:00] | anaxagoras: | Beirdo: i have one file ony my gentoo box named keys.txt which is in /usr/src/linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r7/Dokumentation/keys.txt |
| [16:51:00] | anaxagoras: | is that the right one. |
| [16:51:00] | anaxagoras: | because its really huge |
| [16:51:00] | anaxagoras: | there are no other files in my system with that name. |
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| [16:53:00] | Krazylegz: | anaxagoras: [ decreases volume. |
| [16:53:00] | Krazylegz: | anaxagoras: ] increases volume. |
| [16:54:00] | anaxagoras: | Krazylegz: I love you thanx ! |
| [16:54:00] | Krazylegz: | You'll love me less if it doesn't work. |
| [16:54:00] | anaxagoras: | it works :) |
| [16:54:00] | anaxagoras: | thats because i love you :) |
| [16:55:00] | Beirdo: | OK, now that's just getting disturbing.. |
| [16:55:00] | Beirdo: | no geek-love :) |
| [16:55:00] | Krazylegz: | Haha. |
| [16:55:00] | directhex|work: | do geeks not feel pain, and fele love, the same as everyone else? O_o |
| [16:56:00] | Krazylegz: | I suppose there are other channels on Freenode for that. |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:56:00] | directhex|work: | i mean, obviously dweebs, dorks & nerds don't |
| [16:56:00] | directhex|work: | but geeks! |
| [16:56:00] | Krazylegz: | Again, disturbing. |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, well... |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | I'm a geek.. I'm in love.. so I can't complain too loudly |
| [16:58:00] | Krazylegz: | Until someone hits you. |
| [16:58:00] | Krazylegz: | Then you feel the pain part. |
| [16:58:00] | directhex|work: | hooray for geeks! |
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| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | she won't hit me |
| [16:59:00] | laga: | no, never. |
| [16:59:00] | Krazylegz: | That's a shame. :-) |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | now now |
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| [17:00:00] | Krazylegz: | Sorry. I forgot that I wasn't on EFNet. |
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| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | and you're being indexed by google too |
| [17:02:00] | Krazylegz: | Is that something I should be worried about? |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:02:00] | Beirdo: | depends... |
| [17:03:00] | Beirdo: | if you wanna hide from your comments later, then yes :) |
| [17:03:00] | Krazylegz: | When I Google my own name, I'm the only person who comes up. |
| [17:03:00] | Krazylegz: | Ha. I've got nothing to hide! |
| [17:03:00] | ** directhex|work has his very own place on bash.org ** | |
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| [17:11:00] | laga: | rjune: guess who has just finished building mythtv for LTSP. |
| [17:11:00] | rjune: | not me |
| [17:11:00] | rjune: | :-DS |
| [17:11:00] | Beirdo: | certainly not me |
| [17:11:00] | laga: | .oO(...idiots...) |
| [17:11:00] | laga: | ;)) |
| [17:12:00] | ** Beirdo kicks the arrogant little laga with steel-toed boots :) ** | |
| [17:12:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:12:00] | laga: | rjune: well, it works. i have to fix some makefiles during the build, but it works. i haven't tried it yet because i lack a thin client ;) |
| [17:12:00] | directhex|work: | come back when you've built mythtv for netbsd/toaster |
| [17:12:00] | rjune: | very cool |
| [17:12:00] | Beirdo: | better than head-butting with a German WWI helmet |
| [17:12:00] | laga: | Beirdo: WWI? they were made of leather, iirc |
| [17:13:00] | ** laga googles for 'pickelhaube' ** | |
| [17:13:00] | Beirdo: | the ones with the nice spike on the top? |
| [17:13:00] | laga: | yep. |
| [17:13:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [17:13:00] | Beirdo: | that would hurt |
| [17:13:00] | laga: | heh. |
| [17:13:00] | Beirdo: | not for long |
| [17:13:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:13:00] | laga: | great. now i've got mythfrontend for ltsp, but i can't try it. |
| [17:14:00] | directhex|work: | can someone make RHEL suck less for me? -_- |
| [17:14:00] | Beirdo: | sure |
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| [17:14:00] | laga: | man debian_sarge ;) |
| [17:14:00] | Beirdo: | insert an Ubuntu CD and reboot |
| [17:14:00] | directhex|work: | Beirdo, that raises support issues |
| [17:14:00] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [17:14:00] | directhex|work: | laga, ^^ |
| [17:14:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:14:00] | ** Tommck_ would use ubuntu if my CDs ever showed up :) ** | |
| [17:14:00] | directhex|work: | if it were up to me, you think i'd run this shit? |
| [17:14:00] | Beirdo: | I have a huge stack of em, Tommck_ |
| [17:14:00] | Tommck_: | :) |
| [17:15:00] | Beirdo: | x86, PPC and AMD64 |
| [17:15:00] | directhex|work: | the machine that came with no os runs amd64 sarge happily, safely, easily, securely, and lots of other words ending in "ly" |
| [17:15:00] | Tommck_: | yeah... it's been a bout 4 weeks... no update on the "shipit" site or anything. |
| [17:15:00] | Beirdo: | shittily? |
| [17:15:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:15:00] | Beirdo: | debianly |
| [17:15:00] | Beirdo: | there :) |
| [17:15:00] | Beirdo: | that can mean different things to different people |
| [17:17:00] | Beirdo: | I still think ubuntu is a dumb name |
| [17:17:00] | Beirdo: | and so is debian... but ESPECIALLY Gentoo |
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| [17:18:00] | directhex|work: | you don't think "canonical ubuntu breezy badger" settles well in a coroporate environment? |
| [17:18:00] | Beirdo: | better than whorey hedgehog |
| [17:18:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:18:00] | Tommck_: | Badgers!? We don't need no stinking Badgers! |
| [17:18:00] | directhex|work: | should have called it bendy badger |
| [17:18:00] | Beirdo: | which is how people will think of it forever |
| [17:18:00] | Beirdo: | I have a bunch of whorey machines |
| [17:19:00] | laga: | rjune: would you enjoy a 0.18.1 package for ltsp? |
| [17:19:00] | directhex|work: | i have a whorey laptop. it plays Uplink. |
| [17:19:00] | rjune: | laga: sure |
| [17:19:00] | Beirdo: | my whorey laptop needs more RAM |
| [17:19:00] | Beirdo: | and the bastards gave me PC133 when I specifically asked for PC100 |
| [17:19:00] | Beirdo: | and it doesn't work |
| [17:19:00] | directhex|work: | mine has 1gb. it'd be nice if it was either lighter/smaller, or had a decent gfx card |
| [17:20:00] | laga: | rjune: do you need xvmc? |
| [17:20:00] | Beirdo: | so it's going back, and I'm gonna have to fight them for a refund |
| [17:20:00] | rjune: | what is xvmc? |
| [17:20:00] | Beirdo: | mine has 256MB, and I play a java game on it |
| [17:20:00] | rjune: | is it part of stock ltsp? |
| [17:20:00] | Beirdo: | it gets bitchy |
| [17:20:00] | laga: | rjune: no. it's kind of mpeg acceleration for mpeg |
| [17:21:00] | laga: | rjune: you'll need my Qt and lame packages. are you aware of the fact that you're doing alpha-testing here? ;) |
| [17:21:00] | Beirdo: | alpha, schmalpha :) |
| [17:23:00] | directhex|work: | alpha's just another word for "exciting" |
| [17:23:00] | directhex|work: | or "defunct architecture", depending on who you ask |
| [17:24:00] | Beirdo: | kick-ass architecture you mean |
| [17:24:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:24:00] | directhex|work: | we had one as a door stop when i was at uni |
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| [17:28:00] | laga: | darn, uploading packages sucks when you only have 128kbit/s uplink |
| [17:28:00] | cochi: | ;) |
| [17:28:00] | Beirdo: | how true |
| [17:28:00] | cochi: | <- waiting for upgrade to 6m/640k O:) |
| [17:29:00] | laga: | cochi: i'll be going that route soon enough, too ;) |
| [17:29:00] | cochi: | ;) |
| [17:29:00] | rjune: | laga: I figured as much |
| [17:29:00] | ** Beirdo has 3m/800k ** | |
| [17:29:00] | Beirdo: | for home |
| [17:29:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, reboot time for this work laptop |
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| [17:32:00] | ** GreyFoxx hugs his cable modem. i wuv u ** | |
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| [17:57:00] | laga: | if i had to pass an additional include path to mythtv, how would i do that? |
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| [18:16:00] | Beirdo: | FUCK I HATE WINDOWS! |
| [18:18:00] | Hoxzer: | :D |
| [18:18:00] | Hoxzer: | only reason why I have to use it is BF2 :< |
| [18:18:00] | Beirdo: | they just forced a Windows update at work |
| [18:18:00] | Beirdo: | and it ATE my Firefox config |
| [18:18:00] | Beirdo: | all the extensions, bookmarks, everything |
| [18:18:00] | Beirdo: | gone |
| [18:18:00] | Hoxzer: | windows realy sucks |
| [18:19:00] | Beirdo: | WTF is Winblows update fucking with my Firefox profile for? |
| [18:23:00] | xris: | it's viral-like infectious software. of course they have to prevent it from working. |
| [18:24:00] | Beirdo: | I'm wanting to beat our Windows admins to a pulp |
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| [18:26:00] | Beirdo: | I think what happened is that it didn't sync my fucking profile |
| [18:31:00] | xris: | sucks |
| [18:33:00] | Beirdo: | no kidding |
| [18:33:00] | Beirdo: | sigh |
| [18:34:00] | Beirdo: | sigh |
| [18:34:00] | Beirdo: | fuck it |
| [18:34:00] | Beirdo: | I'm gonna try to get work done in spite of it, and re-setup firefox later |
| [18:34:00] | Beirdo: | what a bitch |
| [18:35:00] | Beirdo: | and the area beside the start menu with all the little icons... wiped |
| [18:35:00] | Beirdo: | grr |
| [18:35:00] | Beirdo: | there will be a paddlin' for sure |
| [18:37:00] | xris: | damn |
| [18:37:00] | Beirdo: | I hope this hits my boss too, I'd love to see him lose it too |
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| [18:42:00] | laga: | rjune: expect your packages in 1–2 hours :) |
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| [18:44:00] | rjune: | laga: cool |
| [18:46:00] | laga: | if you feel like it, there's already lame and qt at http://laga.ath.cx/~laga |
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| [18:57:00] | rjune: | laga: very cool |
| [18:58:00] | rjune: | laga: where do you have the .pkg files? |
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| [19:16:00] | laga: | rjune: they aren't onine yet. |
| [19:16:00] | laga: | online* |
| [19:17:00] | rjune: | ok |
| [19:17:00] | laga: | wait a sec... |
| [19:17:00] | rjune: | no rush |
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| [19:19:00] | Beirdo: | beautiful |
| [19:19:00] | Beirdo: | xchat won't let me relocate the log files?! |
| [19:19:00] | laga: | rjune: http://laga.ath.cx/~laga/ltsp |
| [19:20:00] | laga: | Beirdo: it's because xchat sucks |
| [19:20:00] | Beirdo: | shut up :) |
| [19:20:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:20:00] | MajestiK: | xchat is a dirty whore |
| [19:21:00] | Beirdo: | you'd know :) |
| [19:21:00] | Beirdo: | better than mIRC |
| [19:21:00] | MajestiK: | who's using mIRC? |
| [19:21:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: well, as he made XChat his dirty whore. |
| [19:22:00] | sona: | mIRC is pretty good |
| [19:22:00] | travolta: | :) |
| [19:22:00] | travolta: | sorry |
| [19:22:00] | sona: | but irssi owns them all |
| [19:22:00] | laga: | sona: ack |
| [19:22:00] | MajestiK: | _/topic #mythtv-users, where mythtv is rarely the topic for discussion : today IRC clients |
| [19:23:00] | Beirdo: | irssi doesn't run natively on Windoze |
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| [19:24:00] | ** MajestiK doesn't run on windows either ** | |
| [19:24:00] | sona: | yes another great thing with irssi |
| [19:24:00] | rjune: | MajestiK: Line forms to the left |
| [19:24:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, link ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs to the dir you want them to be? |
| [19:25:00] | ** Beirdo slaps kormoc with a Windows manual ** | |
| [19:25:00] | kormoc: | oh, right, windows... :P |
| [19:25:00] | Beirdo: | it put them in my profile |
| [19:25:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [19:25:00] | Beirdo: | I want them on local disk |
| [19:25:00] | Beirdo: | no way to change it |
| [19:25:00] | sona: | anybody here who knows their way around grub ? |
| [19:25:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, recompile xchat... |
| [19:25:00] | sona: | cant get this peace of *** working |
| [19:25:00] | kormoc: | sona, a lil, what's up? |
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| [19:26:00] | laga: | rjune: FYI: i've just noticed that mythtv will build fine with my latest version of the build script. so if you have a really fast development box, you could try to race me ;) |
| [19:26:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [19:26:00] | rjune: | I do not |
| [19:26:00] | rjune: | I also have to get some laptops booting as terminals |
| [19:27:00] | laga: | heh. good luck :) |
| [19:28:00] | rjune: | I've already done it. really it's just updating it to support Centrino |
| [19:28:00] | laga: | oh, nice |
| [19:31:00] | rjune: | yeah |
| [19:31:00] | rjune: | it'll make a lovely mythtv frontend |
| [19:31:00] | rjune: | Mmmm baby |
| [19:33:00] | sona: | kormoc: a lil, what ? |
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| [19:34:00] | kormoc: | <sona> anybody here who knows their way around grub ? |
| [19:34:00] | sona: | oh |
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| [19:35:00] | sona: | when running grub-install /dev/sda I get Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device. |
| [19:35:00] | sona: | /dev/sda1* |
| [19:36:00] | notanyone: | anyone have trouble with the nvidia driver messing with their capture cards (ivtv)? |
| [19:37:00] | sona: | so it's satadisc, should it still be hd0,0 in grub.conf ? |
| [19:37:00] | Beirdo: | is /boot in a separate filesystem? |
| [19:37:00] | sona: | no |
| [19:37:00] | Beirdo: | then that's likely the problem |
| [19:37:00] | sona: | :/ |
| [19:37:00] | Beirdo: | you probably have to tweak your config a bit |
| [19:38:00] | Beirdo: | it's seeming to be looking for a DEVICE for /boot |
| [19:38:00] | Beirdo: | I think you should be able to tweak it around a bit |
| [19:38:00] | sona: | could I create another partition and mv /boot to new partition ? |
| [19:38:00] | kormoc: | actually, I have /boot on my main partition fine |
| [19:38:00] | Beirdo: | normally, grub wants /boot as a separate mountpoint |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | but with proper config, you should be able to do it either way |
| [19:39:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: normally, linux wants /boot as a separate mountpoint |
| [19:39:00] | kormoc: | sona, have you tried running grub and not grub-setup? |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | normally, Linux doesn't give two shits |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | your *distro* may want it |
| [19:39:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, normally grub doesn't give two shits honestly :P |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | but Linux don't care |
| [19:39:00] | ** kormoc 's setup is assbackwards. ** | |
| [19:40:00] | sona: | running grub now, then what ? :) |
| [19:40:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, but "standard" configs assume /boot is on a separate mountpoint |
| [19:40:00] | notanyone: | i have an nvidia geforce fx 5200 and 2 pvr-500's. when i use "nv" as my driver in my xorg.conf file everything works. when i replace "nv" with "nvidia", i lose audio on 3 of the tuners |
| [19:40:00] | kormoc: | sona, one sec |
| [19:40:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: linux bootloaders, better? lilo historically likes that, as does grub |
| [19:40:00] | sona: | I've always used lilo but gentoo tells me I shouldn't use it with amd64 |
| [19:40:00] | kormoc: | notanyone, that shouldn't affect anything. |
| [19:40:00] | rjune: | and it's generally a good idea |
| [19:40:00] | Beirdo: | aye |
| [19:40:00] | Beirdo: | it is a good idea to be sure |
| [19:41:00] | kormoc: | sona, grub is better overall |
| [19:41:00] | Beirdo: | grub >> lilo |
| [19:41:00] | sona: | so I've heard |
| [19:41:00] | Beirdo: | just takes some getting used to :) |
| [19:41:00] | kormoc: | sona, http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handboo . . . 10#doc_chap2 |
| [19:41:00] | kormoc: | sona, read "Alternative: Setting up GRUB using manual instructions" |
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| [19:42:00] | sona: | lynx <3 |
| [19:42:00] | sona: | :/ |
| [19:42:00] | kormoc: | lynx not a boot loader :P |
| [19:42:00] | sona: | I only have lynx :) |
| [19:42:00] | sona: | to read that shit with :/ |
| [19:43:00] | kormoc: | tis simple enough to do |
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| [19:43:00] | kormoc: | assuming hd(0,0) is your sata it's just |
| [19:43:00] | kormoc: | root (hd0,0) |
| [19:43:00] | kormoc: | setup (hd0,0) |
| [19:43:00] | kormoc: | quit |
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| [19:45:00] | sona: | is on sda2 |
| [19:45:00] | sona: | / is on sda2 |
| [19:46:00] | sona: | still 0,0 ? |
| [19:46:00] | kormoc: | I donno, realistically, you need to figure that out for your system |
| [19:46:00] | travolta: | k.i.s.s. :) lilo is so simple to use |
| [19:46:00] | kormoc: | for example, I have three ide drives and two sata and a pci raid controler, my /boot is hd(4,0) |
| [19:47:00] | laga: | travolta: knights in satan's service? |
| [19:47:00] | kormoc: | travolta, lilo is not totally 64 bit compatable yet iirc |
| [19:47:00] | sona: | I only have one hdd which is a sata |
| [19:47:00] | travolta: | keep it simple stupid |
| [19:47:00] | kormoc: | sona, then likly it would be hd0,0 |
| [19:47:00] | sona: | grub says Error 27... |
| [19:47:00] | kormoc: | sona, the ,0 refers to which partition it is |
| [19:47:00] | sona: | but windows on sda1 and / on sda2 |
| [19:48:00] | kormoc: | sona, try hitting root (h<tab><tab> and see hwat it says |
| [19:48:00] | kormoc: | ooh |
| [19:48:00] | kormoc: | sona, try hd0,1 |
| [19:48:00] | ** kormoc totally missed your partition number for awhile. ** | |
| [19:48:00] | sona: | tried already, error 27: Unrecognized command |
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| [19:49:00] | kormoc: | sona, you have the space between the root and the (hd0,1) ? |
| [19:49:00] | kormoc: | it must be exactly |
| [19:49:00] | sona: | only an empty tab-space hitting tab |
| [19:49:00] | kormoc: | root (hd0,1) |
| [19:49:00] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [19:49:00] | kormoc: | that's odd... |
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| [19:52:00] | kormoc: | sona, you're gonna have to dig into grub docs a bit, sorry :/ |
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| [20:20:00] | laga: | rjune: packages are online now. |
| [20:20:00] | rjune: | sweet |
| [20:21:00] | T`: | hey guys, does mythtv support channel scanning on mpeg cards? (like pvr 150) ? |
| [20:21:00] | T`: | that option is greyed out in my mythtvsetup |
| [20:21:00] | laga: | my mythtv does, but it's the developer version ;) |
| [20:21:00] | laga: | rjune: let me know how it goes |
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| [20:21:00] | rjune: | laga: I will, I hope to be playing with it in just a little bit |
| [20:22:00] | laga: | T`: but it's possible that it won't work on a pvr 150 due to limittions in the driver |
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| [20:24:00] | laga: | rjune: great :) |
| [20:24:00] | rjune: | with one of my wifi terminals |
| [20:24:00] | rjune: | mwa ha ha |
| [20:24:00] | js2638: | It's raining here |
| [20:25:00] | laga: | rjune: heh. my prism2 card is supported by etherboot, iirc :) |
| [20:25:00] | cochi: | And i'm hungry. so what ;) |
| [20:26:00] | js2638: | I just ate 1/2 a turkey sandwhich |
| [20:26:00] | laga: | i'm going to have abbq with some friends because it's good weather ;) |
| [20:26:00] | js2638 is now known as jonK | |
| [20:27:00] | T`: | laga, but i was able to use scantv |
| [20:27:00] | T`: | laga, i am not sure how a driver can affect scanning though, i thought all we need from the driver is ability to tune to a freq. we want |
| [20:27:00] | agile (N=mike@office.cavoksolutions.com) Quit (Remote closed the connection) | |
| [20:28:00] | laga: | T`: you've got a point here. i was thinkg of scantv which doesn't work without vbi. |
| [20:28:00] | laga: | anyways, gotta go |
| [20:28:00] | T`: | ok cya |
| [20:29:00] | T`: | anyone here have a frequency chart for comcast's channel line up? |
| [20:30:00] | laga: | T`: zap2it should provide the channel line up |
| [20:33:00] | robin_: | how do I set registers like CCOMB_ERR_LIMIT ? |
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| [20:40:00] | Beirdo: | WTF? |
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| [20:40:00] | Beirdo: | behave, bish |
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| [20:41:00] | Beirdo: | damn you, bot! |
| [20:41:00] | Beirdo: | deal with netsplits better |
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| [20:57:00] | [SemTeX]: | is there no option to disable xml_tv_grabber? |
| [20:58:00] | [SemTeX]: | can't use it with the standard list, but there is no "don't use it" in mythsetup |
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| [21:14:00] | cosmo_: | Is it possible to view and pause live tv on a seperate frontend machine? Will it simply stream live feeds from the backend? |
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| [21:17:00] | kormoc: | cosmo_, iirc, yup |
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| [21:26:00] | rarrr: | im using a wintv pvr-250 and some channels appear fuzzy, even though when I plug in the same aerial cable into my smallish portable tv the pictures fine.. is it just a shite tuner on the card or can I improve it? |
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| [21:27:00] | robin_: | I have some channels on cable which are according to ptune not in the europe-west freq table.. so i won't add the channels. I do have the frequecy, but there is no table in mythtv to add the frequency ? |
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| [21:27:00] | robin_: | i mean ptune won't add them |
| [21:27:00] | simcop2387-vnc: | are the hauppauge pvr-150's any good? |
| [21:27:00] | robin_: | how do i add them manualy ? |
| [21:28:00] | robin_: | or is the finetune for that ? |
| [21:28:00] | XAD2000: | robin_: using the setup program?? |
| [21:30:00] | XAD2000: | cosmo_: each live tv session will require its own tuner and its own stream... ie two different tuners but tuned to same channel... therefor the problem doesn't occur... |
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| [21:35:00] | robin_: | XAD2000: using whatever.. I have 3 channels which are not in the pal-europe-west freq table, so I can add them with the setup |
| [21:35:00] | robin_: | XAD2000: can't |
| [21:35:00] | robin_: | XAD2000: but I have the frequencies |
| [21:36:00] | robin_: | It is Nederland 1 Nederland 2 en Nederland 3 |
| [21:36:00] | robin_: | (dutch) |
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| [21:43:00] | robin_: | XAD2000: how do I set registers like CCOMB_ERR_LIMIT ? |
| [21:43:00] | robin_: | sorry for the many questions :) |
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| [22:01:00] | xris: | simcop2387-vnc: I like mine |
| [22:02:00] | xris: | anyone want to try my hard-link music organization script? http://forevermore.net/files/musicdirs.pl.txt |
| [22:02:00] | simcop2387-vnc: | xris: so they work decently well at least then? |
| [22:02:00] | xris: | simcop2387-vnc: with a little poking, yeah. |
| [22:02:00] | simcop2387-vnc: | what kind of poking? |
| [22:03:00] | xris: | beta drivers don't always work |
| [22:03:00] | xris: | have to poke through the versions |
| [22:03:00] | simcop2387-vnc: | got a link to them handy? i'd like to check them out before i decide i want one, (i've been wanting a good mpeg2 encoder for a while) |
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| [22:04:00] | xris: | link to the drivers? or the card? |
| [22:04:00] | simcop2387-vnc: | drivers |
| [22:04:00] | xris: | ivtv.tv |
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| [22:04:00] | simcop2387-vnc: | unknown host ivtv.tv |
| [22:05:00] | xris: | www? |
| [22:05:00] | simcop2387-vnc: | i hate badly setup domains... |
| [22:05:00] | xris: | me, too |
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| [22:09:00] | simcop2387-vnc: | xris: what kind of quality comes in through them? |
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| [22:09:00] | Beirdo: | I hate stupid users :) |
| [22:09:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [22:10:00] | knewt: | go uml |
| [22:10:00] | knewt: | whoops |
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| [22:11:00] | xris: | simcop2387-vnc: quality compared to what? for the most part it depends on your input signal. |
| [22:12:00] | xris: | analog cable sucks, digital via svideo is pretty good. |
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| [22:15:00] | simcop2387-vnc: | xris: i mean like how bad are the mpeg artifacts and such |
| [22:15:00] | simcop2387-vnc: | also what kernel are you using? |
| [22:17:00] | xris: | simcop2387-vnc: artifacts depend on the quality settings... on mine, I can't tell what's from the card, and what's from Dish.. it's good, though. way better than software encoder. |
| [22:17:00] | xris: | kernel... 2.6.something. |
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| [22:22:00] | simcop2387-vnc: | cool |
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| [22:26:00] | binarydigit_: | is it possible to inject your own videos into livetv in replace of commercials? |
| [22:27:00] | Chutt: | no. |
| [22:28:00] | Beirdo: | oooh, pr0n instead of commercials? :) |
| [22:28:00] | binarydigit_: | why not ;) |
| [22:28:00] | Beirdo: | that would, of course, have a fairly low WAF |
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| [22:36:00] | xris: | Beirdo: depends on the W |
| [22:36:00] | xris: | and the type of pr0n |
| [22:36:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:36:00] | Beirdo: | true. |
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| [22:36:00] | Beirdo: | I meant as a generality :) |
| [22:37:00] | xris: | heh |
| [22:37:00] | xris: | I mean, if it was fabio-pr0n, who knows... |
| [22:37:00] | Beirdo: | and an even lower PAF |
| [22:37:00] | fourcheeze: | what kinds of disk transfer rates am I going to need to watch livetv? |
| [22:37:00] | Beirdo: | fourcheeze: > 2* your bitrate |
| [22:37:00] | fourcheeze: | got a problem enabling DMA on this drive |
| [22:37:00] | fourcheeze: | and I'm wondering if that's causing the jerky livetv |
| [22:37:00] | Beirdo: | then replace it or the controller :) |
| [22:38:00] | Beirdo: | you will need DMA for it to be "flawless" |
| [22:38:00] | fourcheeze: | well, I'm going to keep it and ad a second drive (SATA) for data |
| [22:38:00] | xris: | fourcheeze: that's more likely related to the cpu being overtaxed than the drive being slow |
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| [22:38:00] | fourcheeze: | I don't think the cpu is overburdened |
| [22:38:00] | fourcheeze: | using tvtime I get a "flawless" picture |
| [22:39:00] | ** Beirdo takes the baseball bat to the Windows servers ** | |
| [22:39:00] | fourcheeze: | and that's from the wintv capture card |
| [22:39:00] | xris: | fourcheeze: are you using software encode? |
| [22:39:00] | Beirdo: | fourcheeze: mythtv != tvtime |
| [22:39:00] | Beirdo: | not even bloody close |
| [22:39:00] | fourcheeze: | sure |
| [22:39:00] | Beirdo: | tvtime just overlays directly to the screen |
| [22:39:00] | fourcheeze: | ok |
| [22:39:00] | Beirdo: | myth encodes it to disk, then plays it back and decodes from the disk |
| [22:39:00] | xris: | so you're using software encode + software decode and you think your cpu isn't hurting? |
| [22:39:00] | fourcheeze: | well using mplayer to decode a dvb stream is also pretty good |
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| [22:40:00] | ** Beirdo shows fourcheeze this cool program called "top" ** | |
| [22:40:00] | Beirdo: | run that in an ssh window while watching livetv |
| [22:40:00] | fourcheeze: | hehe |
| [22:40:00] | Beirdo: | see how much idle CPU you have |
| [22:40:00] | Beirdo: | it will be pretty low |
| [22:40:00] | fourcheeze: | which brings me to my second point |
| [22:41:00] | fourcheeze: | how do I do two things at once |
| [22:41:00] | Beirdo: | ? |
| [22:41:00] | fourcheeze: | e.g. listen to music and rip and cd |
| [22:41:00] | ** Beirdo shrugs ** | |
| [22:41:00] | fourcheeze: | is there some way to leave the music going |
| [22:41:00] | kormoc: | in myth, not at this point. |
| [22:41:00] | fourcheeze: | when I leave that part |
| [22:41:00] | Beirdo: | I don't rip CDs in myth |
| [22:41:00] | kormoc: | so no, you can't right now |
| [22:41:00] | fourcheeze: | ok |
| [22:41:00] | Beirdo: | nor do I usually play MP3s in myth :) |
| [22:42:00] | ** fourcheeze doesn't play mp3s either – prefer ogg ** | |
| [22:42:00] | fourcheeze: | however |
| [22:42:00] | Beirdo: | same difference |
| [22:42:00] | fourcheeze: | it's got this music player and it seems a shame not to use it |
| [22:42:00] | fourcheeze: | the lounge is now transformed |
| [22:42:00] | ** Beirdo is on the phone too much to be playing much music ** | |
| [22:43:00] | fourcheeze: | ahh |
| [22:43:00] | fourcheeze: | do you use the phone on mythtv? |
| [22:43:00] | Beirdo: | hell no |
| [22:43:00] | fourcheeze: | hehe |
| [22:43:00] | Beirdo: | I want something that doesn't piss me off. :) |
| [22:43:00] | fourcheeze: | well, I've not found a software phone that I like yet |
| [22:43:00] | Beirdo: | I use asterisk with normal phones on ATA devices |
| [22:43:00] | fourcheeze: | I've not tried mythphone but I doubt that will be it |
| [22:43:00] | ** fourcheeze has 2 sipuras on desk ** | |
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| [22:44:00] | fourcheeze: | however I don't run asterisk at home |
| [22:44:00] | fourcheeze: | I run it in my employers datacenter |
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| [22:46:00] | Bachus9000: | I've got a quick question. I'll be moving in a few days and I'll be changing cable providers in the process. With this change, all of the channels will be different. Once I download the new DataDirect information for this provider, how will Mythtv handle all of my recordings set to "record at any time on this channel"? |
| [22:46:00] | fourcheeze: | ok, another question – is myth using my native X resolution? |
| [22:46:00] | fourcheeze: | or is it changing when I go fullscreen |
| [22:46:00] | fourcheeze: | I ask because it seems to have a place to select a resolution |
| [22:46:00] | fourcheeze: | and none of my resolutions are there |
| [22:49:00] | xris: | fourcheeze: resolution is usually recording resolution |
| [22:49:00] | xris: | but you can also pick a display res if you compiled in the ability for it to change the X res |
| [22:50:00] | rjune: | I recently moved my mythtv box into the living room with a wifi connection to the rest of my network. Since then, mythaudio will stop partway into a song |
| [22:50:00] | kormoc: | rjune, how's the signal level? |
| [22:50:00] | pirre: | rjune: wifi speed? |
| [22:50:00] | rjune: | is there a way to tell mythaudio to cache part of the song before it starts playing. |
| [22:50:00] | Chutt: | wtf is 'mythaudio'? |
| [22:50:00] | xris: | wtf is mythaudio? |
| [22:50:00] | rjune: | dunno, I'm new to wifi and I'm not 100% sure hwo everything works |
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| [22:50:00] | Beirdo: | hahah |
| [22:51:00] | Beirdo: | we got it in stereo :) |
| [22:51:00] | pirre: | rjune: if you're using mplayer, there's a -cache switch |
| [22:51:00] | rjune: | the mp3/ogg playing component |
| [22:51:00] | Chutt: | mythmusic? |
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| [22:51:00] | xris: | that'd be "mythmusic" |
| [22:51:00] | Chutt: | it's already buffering quite a bit of the file |
| [22:51:00] | Chutt: | you've got other problems, i'd say. |
| [22:52:00] | pirre: | rjune: again, what protocol/speed are we talking about? Have you tried doing bandwidth tests? |
| [22:52:00] | rjune: | yeah mythmusic. |
| [22:52:00] | rjune: | pirre: again no. I'm really new to wifi, it's still mostly magic to me as far as the low-level bits go |
| [22:52:00] | fourcheeze: | xris: ok I guess it makes sense for it to play at the recording resolution |
| [22:52:00] | fourcheeze: | ok, for all you guys interested in my %idle when I'm playing live TV |
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| [22:53:00] | fourcheeze: | my main mythfrontend is using 10.7% of cpu |
| [22:53:00] | fourcheeze: | I've got no mythbackends doing much |
| [22:53:00] | Beirdo: | backends?! |
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| [22:53:00] | Beirdo: | you only need one on the machine, usually |
| [22:53:00] | pirre: | rjune: 802.11b? 802.11g? 11mbit? 54mbit? |
| [22:53:00] | rjune: | pirre: iwconfig eth1 says it's 11Mb, and mythvideo doesn't skip at all |
| [22:54:00] | rjune: | 802.11b |
| [22:54:00] | kormoc: | fourcheeze, then it's obviously not software encoder card. |
| [22:54:00] | pirre: | rjune: oh, okay |
| [22:54:00] | fourcheeze: | Beirdo: I have 2 processes called mythbackend |
| [22:54:00] | pirre: | rjune: I'd try doing bandwidth testing |
| [22:54:00] | fourcheeze: | kormoc: no this is a dvb card |
| [22:54:00] | kormoc: | ahh |
| [22:54:00] | fourcheeze: | I threw out the crummy old bttv capture card thing |
| [22:55:00] | Beirdo: | come ON, 5pm |
| [22:55:00] | fourcheeze: | so in total I have around 75% of cpu idle |
| [22:55:00] | Beirdo: | gotta test those changes... |
| [22:55:00] | Beirdo: | you need DMA, dude |
| [22:55:00] | fourcheeze: | looks like it |
| [22:55:00] | fourcheeze: | stupid drive |
| [22:55:00] | fourcheeze: | or maybe motherboard |
| [22:56:00] | fourcheeze: | or maybe stupid me |
| [22:56:00] | ** Beirdo hands fourcheeze a baseball bat ** | |
| [22:56:00] | Beirdo: | smashy smashy |
| [22:56:00] | ** fourcheeze whacks drive ** | |
| [22:56:00] | pirre: | rjune: you're not using d-link, by any chance? |
| [22:56:00] | rjune: | dlink wap, linksys wifi card |
| [22:56:00] | Bachus9000: | Does anyone have experience changing cable providers with mythtv? |
| [22:56:00] | pirre: | rjune: ok |
| [22:56:00] | rjune: | I updated the wap last night, that cleared up all other problems I had |
| [22:56:00] | xris: | fourcheeze: then why'd you say you were using a software encoder? |
| [22:57:00] | fourcheeze: | becase that was the thing I tested tvtime with |
| [22:57:00] | fourcheeze: | but I guess that's not really relevant |
| [22:58:00] | fourcheeze: | do I need to do anything with mythfilldatabase for myth to go on grabbing stuff from the EPG? |
| [22:58:00] | rjune: | pirre: iwconfig says the link quality is 86/92 |
| [22:58:00] | fourcheeze: | or does it just keep on going? |
| [22:58:00] | kormoc: | rjune, that's good |
| [22:59:00] | XAD2000: | hmmm, hate that radio works so nicely on MCE and is so hard to get working on linux... :argh: |
| [22:59:00] | rjune: | it would seem so. |
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| [23:04:00] | daniel--: | Hia, could anyone tell me where I might've installed mythtv, I can't find the settings.pro file |
| [23:04:00] | xris: | daniel--: locate is your friend |
| [23:04:00] | daniel--: | and I'm not completely stupid, I just happen to be better at fishing than using linux |
| [23:04:00] | daniel--: | hehe, I'm sure it is, and I'd love to make further acquintance of it |
| [23:04:00] | daniel--: | but how do I use it? |
| [23:06:00] | daniel--: | back to google then I suppose, thanks anyway |
| [23:07:00] | xris: | daniel--: man locate? |
| [23:07:00] | xris: | usually, run "updatedb" as root (should be done automatically in most distros), then just "locate whatever" |
| [23:07:00] | Beirdo: | if if you don't know how to use man... try man man |
| [23:07:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [23:08:00] | daniel--: | did do that, but I have to admit I don't know what the stuff means |
| [23:08:00] | daniel--: | hehe thanks, that might help |
| [23:11:00] | daniel--: | umm.. I still can't find the settings.pro file |
| [23:12:00] | Beirdo: | did you build myth, or install a package? |
| [23:12:00] | daniel--: | actually all I need to do is make mythtv-setup find my card (nebula pci) and I read somewhere I might need to enable dvb-support in settings.pro |
| [23:12:00] | daniel--: | built it, and lame and xmltv and everything |
| [23:13:00] | Beirdo: | OK, so go to the source directory where you built it |
| [23:13:00] | Beirdo: | that's where settings.pro will be |
| [23:13:00] | Beirdo: | and if you are using a recent (0.18 or newer, I think) version, you don't use settings.pro directly, you use ./configure |
| [23:14:00] | daniel--: | oh yeah.. I tried using ./configure --enable-dvb with every possible combination, but it always said it wasn't enabled |
| [23:14:00] | hadees: | so anyone else here been having xorg lockup issues, i thought damn my luck till i found out so many people were having them and this isn't even with mythtv, just in general |
| [23:14:00] | daniel--: | so I figured I'd build it first and change then |
| [23:14:00] | xris: | daniel--: then you're likely missing the other configure option related to dvb |
| [23:15:00] | Beirdo: | I don't have DVB, so I can't really point out the specifics |
| [23:16:00] | hadees: | so is the pvr-500 still harder to use then the pvr-150 |
| [23:16:00] | daniel--: | xris: I did include the part about the path of frontend.h |
| [23:16:00] | daniel--: | but it still didn't do it for some reason |
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| [23:17:00] | xris: | daniel--: huh? I'm talking about the path to the dvb header files, which you sometimes have to download separately if they're not part of your kernel (and sometimes even when they are) |
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| [23:18:00] | daniel--: | crap.. I know they're part of the kernel, but I don't know where they are |
| [23:18:00] | daniel--: | well I'll have to research that then |
| [23:20:00] | daniel--: | thanks, I'll be back later if I feel like hanging myself over the tv-card again ;) |
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| [23:22:00] | XAD2000: | anyone used DebugView to trace windows (want to trace how MCE uses my TV-card to fix linux) |
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| [23:34:00] | simcop2387-vnc: | XAD2000: what card? |
| [23:35:00] | XAD2000: | pvr500/PAL FQ1216AME MK4... can't find any datasheet for a Philips MK4 tuner... |
| [23:36:00] | Bachus9000: | I'll be moving in a few days and I'll be changing cable providers in the process. With this change, all of the channels will be different. Once I download the new DataDirect information for this provider, how will Mythtv handle all of my recordings set to "record at any time on this channel"? |
| [23:40:00] | xris: | Bachus9000: you'll likely need to recreate them |
| [23:40:00] | dhofstra: | thats a good question; I would suspect that the new channel numbers would be different, so your only hope would be if myth uses the callsign, but really alot of those would be different also I'd expect. |
| [23:41:00] | kormoc: | Bachus9000, you have to recreate them, and even some of the on every channel ones too, given when I moved, some show id's changed too it appeared. |
| [23:42:00] | dhofstra: | I guess unless he uses directtv or something with pretty consistent channel naming and numbering |
| [23:42:00] | dhofstra: | 'cable providers' I'll read next time... sorry |
| [23:45:00] | dhofstra: | I'm glad I put rockstar INXS on 'record at any time on any channel' because apparently they are broadcasting the song selection show on vh1 on sundays now.. |
| [23:45:00] | dhofstra: | of course, they did not inform the viewers of this ((or I commercial skipped the information.. heh)) |
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| [23:47:00] | xris: | dhofstra: when you import the new channels, they get a new chanid from mythtv.. the "record on this channel" stuff references the chanid. |
| [23:47:00] | dhofstra: | ah, nice to know |
| [23:47:00] | xris: | I know that he'll have to recreate them because I had to do it when moving from cable to dishnetwork |
| [23:48:00] | dhofstra: | you might infer that if you were prone to moving alot, dishnetwork or directtv would actually be a better choice, then |
| [23:48:00] | Bachus9000: | I'll actually be switching from Insight to Comcast. So the process would be something like: 1) add new location to Zap2It Datadirect (done already) 2) Point mythtv to the new listing in mythtv-setup 3) run mythfilldatabase 4) reschedule any recordings "lost" in the channel switchup. Is there anything I'm missing? Is it possible that Mythtv will record a program in error? For example, say channel 28 is now Discovery and I wa |
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| [23:51:00] | dhofstra: | I might setup a bunch of the programs to 'record on any channel' before the change, and then move them back slowly after the change; this may very well be a seriously stupid way to do it though, |
| [23:52:00] | xris: | Bachus9000: my advice is to look through your recording schedules (mythweb is a good place to do this) once you make the switchover and make sure they're set up right. |
| [23:52:00] | xris: | you may also want to "wipe channel data" when you run mythtv-setup to configure the new provider |
| [23:52:00] | ** xris consoles Bachus9000 over the switch to comcast ** | |
| [23:53:00] | dhofstra: | heh, he had to go to the bathroom all of a sudden when you said 'wipe channel data' |
| [23:53:00] | Bachus9000: | What's wrong with Comcast? Surely they aren't worse than Insight... |
| [23:53:00] | xris: | I don't know anything about insight |
| [23:53:00] | xris: | I just know that comcast sucks and overcharges. |
| [23:53:00] | ** xris is happy to be rid of them ** | |
| [23:54:00] | xris: | in my area, they're crap, and don't even provide scifi in digital.. even if you sign up for digital cable, it comes in as an analog signal (with visible digital artifacts from their source) |
| [23:54:00] | xris: | the worst of both worlds |
| [23:54:00] | dhofstra: | overcharges .. yes.. sucks.. dunno I'm pretty happy with their broadband, but requiring basic cable is a thorn in my side |
| [23:55:00] | xris: | since when do they require basic cable? thought they just charged $10/month extra if you didn't use them for tv. |
| [23:55:00] | dhofstra: | well, they will give me broadband only, but it is like 3 dollars more than if I get basic cable |
| [23:55:00] | xris: | can't sign up for a $13/month "broadcast only" plan? |
| [23:55:00] | xris: | ah |
| [23:55:00] | Bachus9000: | How's their cable 'net service? Do they get angry if you run a web server? :) |
| [23:56:00] | dhofstra: | i got tons of servers, but they are all personal use, not business |
| [23:56:00] | xris: | Bachus9000: theoretically, yes. or just block the port |
| [23:56:00] | xris: | I can't use them because I need reverse dns and static ip (run my own mail and dns server) |
| [23:57:00] | dhofstra: | I just use a dynamic ip and it works fine, but again it is not business related and they dont bother me |
| [23:57:00] | Bachus9000: | Well, all I'd probably use was ftp and ssh...and probably just ssh. I'll have to read the ToS I guess..I had one run-in with Insight a few years back and it has made me slightly nervous. :) |
| [23:58:00] | xris: | dhofstra: root dns servers don't play well with dynamic ip's.... nor do security-conscious mail servers accept mail from machines with mismatched reverse dns |
| [23:58:00] | xris: | Bachus9000: TOS says you're not allowed to run servers (they probably wouldn't care about ssh, but ftp would set off flags) |
| [23:58:00] | xris: | that's what I use to get them off the phone when they call me with "deals" |
| [23:59:00] | dhofstra: | I run ftp for 6 years now, but it is rarely acessed |
| [23:59:00] | xris: | dhofstra: depends on your area and traffic if they bother. I've run into people who got C&D messages from them about ftp/web servers. |
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