| Wednesday, August 3rd, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | fourcheeze: | hmm |
| [00:00:00] | fourcheeze: | actually if you a card that gave you an mpeg stream with c3 would be fine as a backend |
| [00:00:00] | fourcheeze: | it depends what it has to do |
| [00:00:00] | fourcheeze: | iceman: what kind of source do you have? |
| [00:00:00] | kormoc: | fourcheeze, he only has a software tvcard, and thus is why the c3 would get eathen alive. |
| [00:00:00] | fourcheeze: | aha |
| [00:00:00] | Chutt: | unless you were compiling on that c3 |
| [00:01:00] | Chutt: | then it'd take all day to recompile myth =) |
| [00:01:00] | iceman: | fourcheeze: i read somewhere of guys using the C3 with PVR-350 and not even touching the XvMC-VLD |
| [00:01:00] | fourcheeze: | yep |
| [00:01:00] | fourcheeze: | if you're going to do that then go ahead |
| [00:01:00] | Chutt: | i used to use a m10000 with a pvr-350 |
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| [00:01:00] | Chutt: | it was pretty damn crappy |
| [00:02:00] | iceman: | Chutt: please expound, wot u mean crappy? |
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| [00:02:00] | Chutt: | slow |
| [00:03:00] | fourcheeze: | I found a C3 barely adequate with DVB-T card |
| [00:03:00] | EL_Whistey: | How does mythtv work out which audio channel to use, and why does it get it soooo wrong? |
| [00:03:00] | fourcheeze: | on the edge of being usable |
| [00:04:00] | Chutt: | el_whistey, most channels present |
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| [00:04:00] | fourcheeze: | fine until it has to do two things at once |
| [00:04:00] | iceman: | EL_Whistey: I dont RIAA would be a problem if the Burning stuff is packaged as a plugin |
| [00:04:00] | EL_Whistey: | iceman, now you're applying logic to the RIAA. That's your first mistake |
| [00:04:00] | kormoc: | EL_Whistey, I don't know a single cd burning program that the RIAA sued, can you site a example? |
| [00:05:00] | Chutt: | there's half-finished cd burning stuff in mythmusic already |
| [00:05:00] | EL_Whistey: | kormoc, not counting DVDJohn? |
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| [00:05:00] | kormoc: | EL_Whistey, he was sued by the MPAA over DECSS, not burning music. |
| [00:05:00] | EL_Whistey: | I presume burning includes DVDs. |
| [00:05:00] | iceman: | EL_Whistey: What DVB-T card did you use, i suspect it didnt have hardware encoder, thus passed it onto the C3 |
| [00:06:00] | kormoc: | EL_Whistey, and he was sued over DeCSS not burning dvd's |
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| [00:06:00] | Chutt: | dvb-t doesn't come _without_ a hardware "encoder" |
| [00:06:00] | Chutt: | there is no encoding going on |
| [00:06:00] | EL_Whistey: | iceman, Divico, and I have no idea what a C3 is ... a kind of explosive? |
| [00:06:00] | fourcheeze: | iceman: DVB-T arrives as mpeg |
| [00:06:00] | kormoc: | EL_Whistey, Via Processor |
| [00:06:00] | EL_Whistey: | There's an heuristic to pick which audio track to use, I have read. |
| [00:06:00] | EL_Whistey: | And it seems to be getting it wrong here sometimes. |
| [00:07:00] | Chutt: | as i said before, it's "most channels" |
| [00:07:00] | Chutt: | with ac3 being preferred over other audio types |
| [00:07:00] | EL_Whistey: | Chutt, ah. Now I understand, I think. |
| [00:08:00] | iceman: | EL_Whistey: Looking at the NOVA-T specs seems to be low budget with no hardware encoder/decoder, don't actually know what that would mean, asuming that it sends raw mpeg2 data only to be decoded by the processor, thus you'll need the C3s XvMC-VLD patch |
| [00:08:00] | EL_Whistey: | So it could be that the popping I'm hearing is an ac3 stream, and I just have the audio set up wrongly? |
| [00:09:00] | Chutt: | quite possibly |
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| [00:09:00] | EL_Whistey: | iceman, I have a 3Gb P3 with 1Gb ram. C3 is a form of plastique, AFAIAC. |
| [00:09:00] | kormoc: | EL_Whistey, it's a via processor |
| [00:09:00] | iceman: | EL_Whistey: Damn straight! |
| [00:09:00] | kormoc: | EL_Whistey, http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/processors/c3/ |
| [00:10:00] | EL_Whistey: | I was thinking of getting a uATX solution, but decided I like PCI slots too much. |
| [00:10:00] | Chutt: | 3's enough for most things :p |
| [00:10:00] | fourcheeze: | iceman: yep that's right dvb gives you an mpeg2 stream |
| [00:11:00] | EL_Whistey: | dvico, wifi, video ... possibly sound. |
| [00:11:00] | iceman: | EL_Whistey: Though i still dont see where the problem is with including a buning feature within myth? RIAA doesnt sue anyone who video tapes a tv-show? |
| [00:11:00] | EL_Whistey: | iceman, they would if they could. |
| [00:11:00] | Chutt: | why'd you do video with pci, though? |
| [00:11:00] | EL_Whistey: | PCIe, as it happens. |
| [00:11:00] | kormoc: | why would the RIAA sue anyone who did anything with tv? |
| [00:11:00] | Chutt: | right, so that'd be separate |
| [00:11:00] | kormoc: | they're only intrested in Music under their control |
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| [00:12:00] | kormoc: | cable companys and/or networks would be the ones sueing for burning of tvshows |
| [00:13:00] | EL_Whistey: | kormoc, as I read the FAQ, one is not supposed to mention the word b1tt0rr3nt here, lest the ire of the IP barons be drawn upon our heads. |
| [00:13:00] | iceman: | kormoc:true, myth needs a feature that allows someone to burn 3/4hrs of TV episodes to CD and 5–10hrs to DVD depending on the hardware, but that would be nice from the Recorded shows screen |
| [00:13:00] | EL_Whistey: | I am extrapolating from that to an attitude on burning. Doesn't seem unreasonable to me. |
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| [00:13:00] | kormoc: | meh, I'm asking you why you keep saying the RIAA are the ones keeping burning from myth |
| [00:14:00] | kormoc: | esp given myth music has partly implimented burning already, as chutt pointed out. |
| [00:14:00] | iceman: | what burning, is that in CVS? |
| [00:14:00] | EL_Whistey: | kormoc, I was answering iceman's question 'why no burning' with: 'politics', the details are less relevant. |
| [00:15:00] | EL_Whistey: | Let's add a bittorrent and streaming player too. |
| [00:15:00] | fourcheeze: | EL_Whistey: reference for your FAQ statement? |
| [00:15:00] | Chutt: | know why there's no streaming player? |
| [00:15:00] | Chutt: | the people that have written the existing plugins just used mplayer |
| [00:15:00] | kormoc: | fourcheeze, link to wiki in topic. |
| [00:16:00] | fourcheeze: | ok |
| [00:16:00] | Chutt: | which is an absolutely horrible way to accomplish that |
| [00:16:00] | kormoc: | indeed |
| [00:16:00] | EL_Whistey: | fourcheeze, http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/index.php/FAQ#Bittorrent |
| [00:17:00] | kormoc: | EL_Whistey, see, there's no reason why there's no burning or streaming in myth other then there's noone who coded it correctly yet. |
| [00:17:00] | fourcheeze: | hmm |
| [00:17:00] | Chutt: | know why there's no bittorrent? aside from the fact that it _will_ be abused, there's precious little free content out there that can be used directly by myth |
| [00:17:00] | fourcheeze: | I think that FAQ is overy cautious |
| [00:17:00] | iceman: | kormoc: in the faq it says we can use the mythtv engine to playback videos, where is that configured? and is that a better player when looking at keybinding .lirc and all... |
| [00:17:00] | fourcheeze: | and I doubt the NYT does IRC |
| [00:17:00] | fourcheeze: | if they did they would be better informed |
| [00:17:00] | EL_Whistey: | kormac, proximate cause vs. ultimate cause |
| [00:17:00] | kormoc: | iceman, mythvideo, you can google it. |
| [00:18:00] | kormoc: | EL_Whistey, ooh? so you are saying all devs who coded plugins which sucked did so cause of the *IAA? |
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| [00:18:00] | EL_Whistey: | Yeah, yeah, it was a studio conspiracy to make them suck. |
| [00:18:00] | EL_Whistey: | The Dead Hand of Disney. |
| [00:19:00] | EL_Whistey: | SuckyMythPlugin (c) Bertelsmann |
| [00:19:00] | kormoc: | wow, how can you trust myth at all then? what if chutt is sending what you recorded to your cable company so they can build a case against ya? |
| [00:19:00] | EL_Whistey: | That's the giveaway |
| [00:20:00] | EL_Whistey: | kormoc, that's ok, I have wrapped my mythbox in tinfoil – they'll never detect it. |
| [00:20:00] | ** kormoc shakes his head. ** | |
| [00:20:00] | kormoc: | there's no tin in tinfoil anymore. |
| [00:21:00] | EL_Whistey: | sure, that's what they *want* you to think. |
| [00:21:00] | kormoc: | so if it still was tin, why would *they* let you buy something that allowed you to protect yourself from them? |
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| [00:22:00] | iceman: | kormoc,fourcheeze,El_Whistey, nice chatting to ya all... just wich my QT skill where upto scratch, and i could cotribute something to myth. i think its an excellent project! |
| [00:22:00] | EL_Whistey: | You know, I don't think I want to play net-paranoiac anymore. It's fun, but it's habit forming. |
| [00:22:00] | iceman: | ciao, have phun! |
| [00:22:00] | ** kormoc waves ** | |
| [00:22:00] | fourcheeze: | l8rz |
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| [00:23:00] | KungFu: | installed it |
| [00:24:00] | KungFu: | how to start it? |
| [00:24:00] | Chutt: | www.mythtv.org/docs/ |
| [00:24:00] | EL_Whistey: | heh |
| [00:26:00] | EL_Whistey: | Chutt, how does it break a deadlock, btw. Two stereo audio tracks, e.g. ... actually, can you point me to the source code file in question? |
| [00:26:00] | Chutt: | first one in the file |
| [00:26:00] | Chutt: | libs/libmythtv/avformatdecoder.cpp |
| [00:26:00] | KungFu: | mythbackend |
| [00:26:00] | KungFu: | mythbackend: error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.18.1.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| [00:26:00] | Chutt: | kungfu, use windows. |
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| [00:26:00] | KungFu: | PLONK! |
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| [00:29:00] | Chutt: | that was easy |
| [00:29:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
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| [00:45:00] | EL_Whistey: | Chutt, you're the code dude, right? Can I make a suggestion? tag the output of VERBOSE with an identifier for the flag which caused it to be emitted. |
| [00:47:00] | Chutt: | grep? |
| [00:47:00] | EL_Whistey: | reasoning: I initially started with verbose all, now I want to whittle it down a bit ... 1.8Gb logfiles are a bit large. |
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| [00:47:00] | rabies_: | hey |
| [00:47:00] | EL_Whistey: | Sure, it's not that the information isn't available upon exhaustive inspection, but still. |
| [00:47:00] | rabies_: | is there any support for the PVR150 IR Blaster? |
| [00:47:00] | rabies_: | in either LIRC or MythTV? |
| [00:48:00] | Chutt: | it's just adding extra junk to the output, is all |
| [00:48:00] | _Lya_: | when I try to schedule recordings mythbackend says this: |
| [00:48:00] | rabies_: | Chutt, well im just gonna leave my X res at 720x480, that seems to work the best |
| [00:48:00] | _Lya_: | 2005-08–02 18:48:25.107 Scheduled 0 items in 0.0 = 0.00 match + 0.00 place |
| [00:48:00] | rabies_: | Chutt, you know if lirc has PVR150 support for blasting? |
| [00:49:00] | Chutt: | no |
| [00:49:00] | _Lya_: | and there's nothing in the upcoming recordings |
| [00:49:00] | _Lya_: | what could be wrong (I imagine this is a database population problem)... |
| [00:49:00] | rabies_: | so how do i control my settop box... |
| [00:49:00] | EL_Whistey: | interesting 'Auto-selecting AC3 audio track (stream #2)' which confirms the clicky-hypothesis. |
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| [00:49:00] | EL_Whistey: | However, 'Initializing audio parms from audio track #1' ... seems ... odd |
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| [00:50:00] | Chutt: | the counting's off |
| [00:50:00] | EL_Whistey: | izza bug, seemingly. |
| [00:50:00] | Chutt: | just on display |
| [00:50:00] | Chutt: | not a terribly big deal :p |
| [00:51:00] | EL_Whistey: | Damn, I was hoping I could avoid setting up alsa/AC3 passthrough for another day |
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| [00:52:00] | EL_Whistey: | Chutt, you've checked and are sure it's just the reporting that's off, it's not actually using the wrong audio track for stream metadata? |
| [00:53:00] | EL_Whistey: | otherwise I'll check. It'll just take me a lot longer than that. |
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| [00:53:00] | rabies_: | Chutt, what do you recomend for a ir blaster? |
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| [00:54:00] | redfox: | could anyone comment on the visual quality of mythtv vs straight cable? |
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| [00:57:00] | abarbaccia: | redfox, obviously the fewer generations the better the quality – but i've found with the right video settings (interlacing and such) you can hardly tell the difference |
| [00:58:00] | _Lya_: | refox: depends on your card, i can't tell the difference from regular tv with mine.. |
| [00:58:00] | abarbaccia: | and if you are going high def with all digital signals – you can't tell the difference |
| [00:58:00] | redfox: | abarbaccia, _Lya_, thanks guys. What cards are you using? |
| [00:58:00] | redfox: | capture cards that is |
| [00:58:00] | abarbaccia: | pvr-150, onboard sis graphics |
| [00:58:00] | _Lya_: | http://pchdtv.com/ |
| [00:59:00] | abarbaccia: | see, thats why his quality is nuts – he's all HD |
| [00:59:00] | abarbaccia: | are you HD or SD? |
| [00:59:00] | redfox: | well I have digital cable from comcast, but most everything isn't HD |
| [00:59:00] | _Lya_: | with a crappy nvidia card for composite out |
| [00:59:00] | redfox: | so I assume I don't want to worry about HD for now... (?) |
| [01:00:00] | _Lya_: | i don't really use it to watch any hd shows.. |
| [01:00:00] | _Lya_: | i don't get any.. |
| [01:00:00] | _Lya_: | the setup is easier than with the hauppauge... |
| [01:00:00] | _Lya_: | which I used to have. |
| [01:00:00] | redfox: | really? I was thinking about going hauppauge |
| [01:00:00] | _Lya_: | and the price is comparable |
| [01:00:00] | redfox: | you are using the HD-3000? |
| [01:01:00] | _Lya_: | yeah, well some guy named chris kennedy makes the drivers you'll likely need to use if you go hauppauge, it took me several tries to get my hauppauge to work, and then when I did get it to work it would only work on a cold bootup, not a restart... |
| [01:01:00] | _Lya_: | yeah, the 3000 |
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| [01:02:00] | redfox: | hmm... was it tough to get it working with myth? |
| [01:02:00] | _Lya_: | i ended up selling the hauppauge with its software online for more than what I paid fo rthe 3000 |
| [01:02:00] | redfox: | haha |
| [01:02:00] | _Lya_: | the 3000? no, knoppmyth works, right now I just have a stock install of kubuntu and the proper sources to install mythtv and that seemed tow ork out of hte box. |
| [01:02:00] | _Lya_: | i haven't had any card related problems with it, so far. |
| [01:03:00] | redfox: | thats cool, I'm glad I asked about it |
| [01:03:00] | redfox: | do you use the coax input? |
| [01:03:00] | _Lya_: | but my mythtv database seems to be totally screwed up, and i'm reluctant to "refresh" it. |
| [01:03:00] | _Lya_: | yeah, coax input for regular cable.. |
| [01:04:00] | redfox: | I have a cable box for my digital cable, I wonder if I could get better quality with something other than coax |
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| [01:04:00] | rabies_: | is any support for the pvr150 blaster planned? |
| [01:06:00] | _Lya_: | redfox: unlikely..i'm not sure how the 3000 works with cable box equipped places, but they use coax so the quality can't be any better. |
| [01:06:00] | _Lya_: | rabies_: are you trying to use the ivtv drivers from chris kennedy? |
| [01:07:00] | EL_Whistey: | Is there a list of 'dark' plugins anywhere? |
| [01:08:00] | _Lya_: | El_Whistey: dark? |
| [01:08:00] | EL_Whistey: | e.g. t*rrent*cracy |
| [01:08:00] | EL_Whistey: | unofficial. |
| [01:08:00] | kormoc: | uhh, likly not. |
| [01:08:00] | _Lya_: | i don't believe i've seen any |
| [01:08:00] | EL_Whistey: | Note, I have no interest in t'rent as such, my bandwidth doesn't stretch to that. |
| [01:09:00] | kormoc: | I doubt anyone would write a plugin like that |
| [01:09:00] | kormoc: | it makes no sense |
| [01:09:00] | EL_Whistey: | There is one. |
| [01:09:00] | rabies_: | _Lya_, chris kennedy? |
| [01:09:00] | kormoc: | EL_Whistey, link? |
| [01:09:00] | rabies_: | _Lya_, ivtv, yes i am |
| [01:09:00] | rabies_: | _Lya_, works great for me, i just need a ir blaster |
| [01:09:00] | rabies_: | and i guess PVR150 isnt supported |
| [01:09:00] | _Lya_: | rabies_: yeah, the "official" ivtv only seems to work for cards that are like 4–5 years old.. chris kennedy keeps newer drivers. |
| [01:10:00] | redfox: | reading through this pchdtv.com page, I'm starting to wonder... If I have digital cable, do I need to use my cable box with a tv-capture card? |
| [01:10:00] | EL_Whistey: | http://www.torrentocracy.com/ |
| [01:10:00] | EL_Whistey: | that was for kormoc |
| [01:10:00] | rabies_: | _Lya_, ivtv is capture only, correct? |
| [01:10:00] | _Lya_: | redfox: i'm not sure |
| [01:10:00] | _Lya_: | rabies_: yep. |
| [01:10:00] | rabies_: | _Lya_, okay |
| [01:10:00] | rabies_: | _Lya_, im actually using the unstable branch, seems to work ok |
| [01:10:00] | kormoc: | intrestin |
| [01:10:00] | kormoc: | g |
| [01:11:00] | xris: | EL_Whistey: not allowed to talk of that here. |
| [01:11:00] | EL_Whistey: | xris, yes. It was an example of a dark plugin – reference not use, as it were. |
| [01:13:00] | xris: | EL_Whistey: that's the only plugin I know of that's verboten |
| [01:14:00] | EL_Whistey: | I was thinking simply non-official, non-mainstream, as much as streng verboten |
| [01:14:00] | xris: | mythrecipe, then. |
| [01:14:00] | EL_Whistey: | :) |
| [01:14:00] | xris: | I think nuv2disk has some frontend integration |
| [01:14:00] | xris: | but like isaac said, they're not "official" because there's usually something wrong with them |
| [01:15:00] | EL_Whistey: | Yeah, half-assed is ok too. |
| [01:15:00] | xris: | I'd much rather people fix the core plugins, anyway... |
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| [01:16:00] | Chutt: | xris, hey |
| [01:16:00] | Chutt: | fields = [f for f in tkt.fields if f['type'] != 'textarea'] |
| [01:16:00] | EL_Whistey: | fix and extend |
| [01:16:00] | Chutt: | how do i extend that so that it's kicking out 'summary' and 'keywords' as well? |
| [01:17:00] | abarbaccia: | lets talk about unofficial mythtv plugins – what ones exist and are still being used and what they do – because that's never talked about |
| [01:17:00] | Chutt: | (trac/Notify.py, line 223) |
| [01:17:00] | rabies_: | lack of support =\ |
| [01:17:00] | rabies_: | thats annoying |
| [01:17:00] | rabies_: | i guess ill just have to wait for ANOTHER part |
| [01:18:00] | rabies_: | *sigh* |
| [01:18:00] | abarbaccia: | wait – are we not allowed to talk of unofficial plugins in here? |
| [01:18:00] | Chutt: | talk about them all you want, just don't ask for support for them |
| [01:19:00] | xris: | Chutt: no clue.. I don't know python |
| [01:19:00] | _Lya_: | rabies_: i'd sell your 150 on ebay and get the hd 3000, your life will be easier. |
| [01:19:00] | Chutt: | bah |
| [01:19:00] | Chutt: | you're no fun |
| [01:19:00] | xris: | lol.. #trac :) |
| [01:19:00] | abarbaccia: | alright – sweet – so whos got a cool unofficial mythtv plugin? |
| [01:19:00] | abarbaccia: | _Lya_, they are 2 completely different things...one is standard definition and one is high definition no? |
| [01:19:00] | xris: | not me.. mine's not unofficial (nor really a plugin — either of them) |
| [01:20:00] | abarbaccia: | xris, whats your non-plugin |
| [01:20:00] | xris: | mythweb and nuvexport |
| [01:20:00] | ** xris thought everyone here knew that, though. ** | |
| [01:20:00] | abarbaccia: | "mythweb" being unofficial and not a plugin |
| [01:20:00] | xris: | no, being NOT unofficial, and not really a plugin. |
| [01:21:00] | rabies_: | _Lya_, heh, after all the effort i put into making this card work (plus i want the mpeg2 encoder) theres no way im doing that |
| [01:21:00] | xris: | nuvexport is unofficial only because I pulled it from the official tree and put it on my own server so I could have better section breakdowns for bug reports. |
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| [01:22:00] | rabies_: | speaking of mythweb, there a good guide on setup? |
| [01:22:00] | xris: | um, untar and read the README? |
| [01:22:00] | xris: | I tried to make it as easy as possible. |
| [01:22:00] | DCG: | anyone know why i'm not seeing all my recording profiles in mythweb? i added 4 extra profiles and i only see the default 4 |
| [01:23:00] | DCG: | on my frontends all 8 profiles show up |
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| [01:23:00] | xris: | DCG: "special" profiles (like searches), or normal ones? |
| [01:23:00] | DCG: | normal ones |
| [01:23:00] | rabies_: | xris, well its installed as a debian package so all the basic config is done...i just get this weird apapche message at startup |
| [01:23:00] | rabies_: | xris, weird cause i have no clue on how to run it, heh |
| [01:23:00] | xris: | which is...? |
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| [01:24:00] | rabies_: | apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 192.168.1.10 for ServerName |
| [01:24:00] | xris: | means you don't have a servername defined. |
| [01:25:00] | rabies_: | oh |
| [01:25:00] | rabies_: | well i dont need one do it? |
| [01:25:00] | rabies_: | i* |
| [01:25:00] | xris: | either hard-coded it into the config file (search for ServerName), or set it in /etc/sysconfig/network |
| [01:25:00] | xris: | no, you don't need it. that's a warning, not an error |
| [01:25:00] | xris: | mythweb might need it, though, for cookies. |
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| [01:26:00] | DCG: | hrm, i'm only seeing the default 4 when i goto choose a profile for recording |
| [01:26:00] | DCG: | but when i goto recording profiles -> software encoders i see 8 |
| [01:26:00] | xris: | DCG: odd |
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| [01:26:00] | xris: | wait, no... how can you have multiple recording profiles? There are only 4.. high, low, normal and livetv |
| [01:26:00] | rabies_: | xris, i don t have /etc/sysconfig |
| [01:27:00] | xris: | rabies_: dunno where debian puts it, then. |
| [01:27:00] | rabies_: | k |
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| [01:27:00] | xris: | DCG: unless someone turned that back on again to have multiples. |
| [01:27:00] | DCG: | is it hard coded somewhere to 4? |
| [01:27:00] | xris: | DCG: used to be. |
| [01:27:00] | ** DCG grumbles ** | |
| [01:28:00] | _Lya_: | abarbaccia: it supports analog television...i dunno maybe everything here is hdtv but I seem to not have a problem getting the shows I want recorded... |
| [01:28:00] | rabies_: | xris, what is the servername? |
| [01:28:00] | xris: | DCG: devs decided people would only need a max of 3 + live tv |
| [01:28:00] | DCG: | when i goto setup->tv->recording profiles->software encoders i can see all 8 of my profiles, but not anywhere else |
| [01:28:00] | xris: | rabies_: what's the name of your server? mythtv.mydomain.com, etc |
| [01:28:00] | DCG: | thats kinda dumb. |
| [01:28:00] | kormoc: | Chutt, I beleive fields = [f for f in tkt.fields if f['type'] != 'textarea' and f['type'] != 'summary' and f['type'] != 'keywords' ] should do what you want |
| [01:28:00] | rabies_: | xris, no domain |
| [01:28:00] | DCG: | arbitrary decisions arnt good decisions |
| [01:28:00] | xris: | DCG: how do you have 8, though? mythtv doesn't let you have more than the defaults. |
| [01:28:00] | rabies_: | xris, im only running apache for remote programming of shows |
| [01:28:00] | xris: | rabies_: then you should be fine with ip |
| [01:29:00] | rabies_: | xris, should i put the internal or external one? |
| [01:29:00] | _Lya_: | abarbaccia: in the faq it says the 2000 doesn't support regular cable, which leads me to believe that the 3000 does.. |
| [01:29:00] | DCG: | xris: i created a new profile group, then in the db i modifed the profile groups that they belonged to and deleted the extra recording group |
| [01:29:00] | xris: | or if your box is directly on the net (in which case, don't forget to turn on authentication), the name of the cable connection. |
| [01:29:00] | rabies_: | xris, its through a router so im just gonna stick it on a weird port |
| [01:29:00] | xris: | DCG: yeah.... that's sort of the problem. |
| [01:29:00] | DCG: | heh |
| [01:30:00] | rabies_: | xris, something above the 1024 barrier |
| [01:30:00] | xris: | rabies_: still, auth is good... |
| [01:30:00] | DCG: | oh well |
| [01:30:00] | kormoc: | rabies, cause it's not like the script kiddies have all the time in the world and don't just randomly port scan... |
| [01:30:00] | DCG: | thing is i have profiles for cartoons, things i want to watch on my psp, and things i want to stream over my wifi |
| [01:30:00] | abarbaccia: | _Lya_, i was unaware – thats great to hear tho |
| [01:31:00] | xris: | anyway, if you access the machine by IP, you'll need to hard-code the IP into the server_domain setting in conf.php |
| [01:31:00] | DCG: | then a profile for the shows i archive |
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| [01:31:00] | xris: | DCG: never said it was a good idea not to have lots... I missed the old feature to add more. |
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| [01:31:00] | rabies_: | xris, that in apache or mythweb?> |
| [01:31:00] | xris: | personally, I just record everything in HQ and export it. |
| [01:31:00] | DCG: | i hope multiple get added back in 18.2 |
| [01:31:00] | xris: | rabies_: conf.php is mythweb |
| [01:31:00] | mchou: | wow, that toronto airplane skid sounds pretty serious. |
| [01:31:00] | DCG: | though id be happy with 8 instead of 4 |
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| [01:32:00] | rabies_: | xris, internal or external ip? |
| [01:33:00] | rabies_: | xris, i dont know php...how do i code it? |
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| [01:35:00] | rabies_: | er...i connected to my website and i just get the apache placeholder |
| [01:36:00] | _Lya_: | forum also confirms this: |
| [01:36:00] | _Lya_: | http://pchdtv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=918 |
| [01:36:00] | rabies_: | i guess i gotta set a default website |
| [01:37:00] | rabies_: | actually this works... |
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| [01:38:00] | EL_Whistey: | mchou, yeah, fireball seconds after it stopped. |
| [01:39:00] | rabies_: | :) |
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| [01:40:00] | xris: | rabies_: that's sort of the problem.. cookies don't work well by IP.. |
| [01:41:00] | xris: | if you don't care about cookies (and saved settings) then you're fine. |
| [01:41:00] | xris: | the conf file is fairly easy to read, though |
| [01:41:00] | hadees: | anyone know Chris Kennedy's ivtv site |
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| [01:43:00] | Fosten: | anybody know how to get sound working with the pvr-500? |
| [01:44:00] | xris: | hadees: http://ivtv.tv ? |
| [01:45:00] | hadees: | xris, yeah i figured it out, i couldn't remember it, he should get the sf site |
| [01:46:00] | hadees: | now i just need an ebuild |
| [01:47:00] | hadees: | does ivtv-0.3.7b.tgz work well with m179 and pvr-250 |
| [01:50:00] | mchou: | only way to tell is by trying it. |
| [01:51:00] | mchou: | damn, that space shuttle must be held together with duct tape. |
| [01:51:00] | kormoc: | hadees, you have a m179 working? |
| [01:51:00] | mchou: | m179 has worked for a long time. |
| [01:51:00] | kormoc: | mchou, do you have one working? |
| [01:52:00] | mchou: | I have 2 working |
| [01:52:00] | kormoc: | mchou, kernel version, ivtv version, tuner version, module options used? |
| [01:52:00] | mchou: | there is nothing extraordinary. |
| [01:53:00] | hadees: | kormoc, i had one |
| [01:53:00] | mchou: | 0.2 ivtv iirc |
| [01:53:00] | mchou: | cant get to that comp right now. |
| [01:53:00] | hadees: | i had to use the tuner option |
| [01:53:00] | kormoc: | did you have to force busmastering enabled with setpci 4.w? does your mobo support busmastering? default on or off? |
| [01:53:00] | hadees: | it was not detecting the tuner |
| [01:53:00] | kormoc: | did you have to set the pci latency higher or lower? any special irq settings needed? |
| [01:54:00] | hadees: | but no i don't have sound |
| [01:54:00] | hadees: | kormoc, nope |
| [01:54:00] | mchou: | you must have a REALLY CRAPPY mobo if you have to worry about that. |
| [01:54:00] | kormoc: | no, I don't have a crappy mobo. |
| [01:55:00] | mchou: | then you barking up the wrong tree as usual |
| [01:55:00] | kormoc: | with ivtv .2.x, it requires ide busmastering to be enabled for the m179, and the only way to do so is to use setpci to set bit two of word 4 for it to be forced on, at that point the ivtv module loads, but the tuner module doesn't. |
| [01:55:00] | kormoc: | as usual? |
| [01:55:00] | mchou: | ide busmastering? |
| [01:56:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [01:56:00] | kormoc: | yes. |
| [01:56:00] | hadees: | i had it working for a long time and never heard that before |
| [01:56:00] | hadees: | infact i have no clue what your talking about |
| [01:56:00] | mchou: | how would m179 know about the ide subsystem? |
| [01:56:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [01:56:00] | kormoc: | ide busmastering is not about the ide subsystem, it's a term about a specific form of DMA |
| [01:57:00] | hadees: | still what does that have to do with a pci card |
| [01:57:00] | mchou: | pci bustmastering. |
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| [01:57:00] | hadees: | and how do you explain me using it for 1 1/2 years |
| [01:57:00] | kormoc: | hadees, let me show you the error message |
| [01:57:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [01:57:00] | hadees: | and not doing that |
| [01:57:00] | hadees: | anyway back to real problems |
| [01:57:00] | hadees: | i have no sound |
| [01:57:00] | mchou: | hadees: hehe |
| [01:57:00] | hadees: | the sound problem is from ivtv |
| [01:58:00] | hadees: | never had this before |
| [01:58:00] | kormoc: | mchou, hadees, http://pastebin.ca/19138 |
| [01:59:00] | kormoc: | mchou, notice the end of the ivtv init? the error? |
| [02:00:00] | kormoc: | now, I force it on and it loads, and then the tuner module does not. |
| [02:00:00] | mchou: | kormoc: you're so fucking retarded |
| [02:00:00] | kormoc: | hadees, and I take offence that you think I'm making up errors. |
| [02:00:00] | kormoc: | mchou, excuse me? |
| [02:00:00] | mchou: | ivtv: Encoder ivtv: and ivtv: Decoder ivtv: Firmware is Dead, RELOADING... |
| [02:00:00] | kormoc: | yup |
| [02:01:00] | mchou: | it needs bustmastering to load firmware?? |
| [02:01:00] | kormoc: | till I enable bus mastering. |
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| [02:01:00] | kormoc: | once I enable busmastering, it loads and comes up fine |
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| [02:01:00] | mchou: | then like I said, you got crappy mobo. |
| [02:02:00] | mchou: | why would you turn busmastering off anyways?? |
| [02:02:00] | kormoc: | it's default off for certain cards. |
| [02:02:00] | kormoc: | it's on for my 3ware, my geforce fx5200 |
| [02:02:00] | kormoc: | off for my sound and m179 |
| [02:03:00] | kormoc: | that's the defaults based on what the card requests |
| [02:03:00] | hadees: | kormoc, whats your problem? no sound? |
| [02:03:00] | kormoc: | http://pastebin.ca/19139 |
| [02:03:00] | kormoc: | hadees, turner will not tune, I get sound perfectly well |
| [02:03:00] | hadees: | damn |
| [02:03:00] | hadees: | why don't i have sound |
| [02:03:00] | mchou: | haha!! |
| [02:03:00] | hadees: | wtf |
| [02:03:00] | kormoc: | hadees, I had it working once, but it just stopped and never started again |
| [02:04:00] | kormoc: | I have two cards that have done this in 3 different mobos |
| [02:04:00] | mchou: | between the two of you m179 is working just fine! |
| [02:04:00] | hadees: | that monkey in ypur closet must have turned off the bus mastering |
| [02:04:00] | kormoc: | hadees, then why's it on for the 3ware and the GeForce? |
| [02:04:00] | hadees: | kormoc, what am i a computer expert |
| [02:04:00] | mchou: | lol, kormoc is being an ass again |
| [02:04:00] | hadees: | oh wait |
| [02:04:00] | kormoc: | mchou, your the ass. |
| [02:05:00] | hadees: | oh lets all shut up |
| [02:05:00] | hadees: | and help me |
| [02:05:00] | mchou: | haha! |
| [02:05:00] | mchou: | hadees: rever to ivtv 0.2x and you'd be fine. |
| [02:05:00] | mchou: | revert* |
| [02:05:00] | hadees: | mchou, i did that first |
| [02:05:00] | hadees: | mchou, thats why i moved to 3.x |
| [02:06:00] | mchou: | hadees: huh?? |
| [02:06:00] | hadees: | dmesg says http://pastebin.ca/19140 |
| [02:06:00] | hadees: | .3x |
| [02:07:00] | mchou: | screw .3x |
| [02:07:00] | mchou: | use .2x |
| [02:07:00] | mchou: | why the fuck is that so hard to understand? |
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| [02:08:00] | hadees: | mchou, dude, i did use .2x had the error there, couldn't figure it out |
| [02:08:00] | hadees: | then tried .2x |
| [02:08:00] | hadees: | .3x |
| [02:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | 23~ |
| [02:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | oops |
| [02:08:00] | mchou: | then show me the error from 0.2x |
| [02:08:00] | hadees: | mchou, going to take a min i have to install it again |
| [02:08:00] | mchou: | recompile if you have to. |
| [02:09:00] | hadees: | although while looking at it on .2x i had a green bar at the top and in .3x i didn't |
| [02:09:00] | mchou: | thats cause you didnt set the right norm |
| [02:10:00] | DCG: | anyone have an example of a setup to move a file after its been recorded? |
| [02:10:00] | mchou: | at least that was working. |
| [02:10:00] | _Lya_: | anyone know where I can get the mysql db schema for mythtv? |
| [02:10:00] | hadees: | mchou, well video works both places just better with .3x |
| [02:11:00] | DCG: | bah |
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| [02:11:00] | mchou: | I know for a fact 0.2-rc3f works great on m179. |
| [02:12:00] | hadees: | i am getting ivtv-0.2.0-rc3k.tgz right now |
| [02:12:00] | hadees: | it might be the one in portage is fscked |
| [02:12:00] | mchou: | that should be fine too. |
| [02:12:00] | mchou: | screw gentoo too. |
| [02:13:00] | mchou: | both you lamers using gentoo and having problems. Get the drift? |
| [02:13:00] | hadees: | mchou, first i am really good at gentoo, and distro hardly matters |
| [02:14:00] | mchou: | hadees: you better turn on SMART and perform an extensive self-test on hda |
| [02:14:00] | hadees: | huh? |
| [02:14:00] | hadees: | why |
| [02:14:00] | mchou: | looks like it's headed south real soon. |
| [02:14:00] | mchou: | hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } |
| [02:14:00] | mchou: | hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC } |
| [02:15:00] | hadees: | yeah i saw that, i thought you ment it had something to do with ivtv |
| [02:15:00] | mchou: | you lamers using marginar HW with crappy SW. |
| [02:15:00] | mchou: | marginal* |
| [02:16:00] | hadees: | mchou, what are you the distro nazi |
| [02:17:00] | mchou: | no myth for you! |
| [02:17:00] | hadees: | just to piss your off i'll start recommending lindows |
| [02:17:00] | mchou: | shit, even lindows beats gentoo. |
| [02:18:00] | mchou: | which says a lot for gentoo. |
| [02:18:00] | hadees: | in your opion |
| [02:20:00] | hadees: | mchou, dmesg with ivtv-0.2.0-rc3k http://pastebin.ca/19142 |
| [02:20:00] | mchou: | haha, that's a buggy driver |
| [02:21:00] | mchou: | Configuring WinTV PVR 150 card with 5 streams |
| [02:21:00] | mchou: | get it from ivtv.tv rc3f |
| [02:21:00] | hadees: | alright |
| [02:21:00] | hadees: | brb |
| [02:22:00] | mchou: | just for kicks take the pvr 350 out. |
| [02:22:00] | mchou: | for the time being. |
| [02:22:00] | _Lya_: | when i had a 350 the thing would be recognized as a 150 on boot... |
| [02:22:00] | mchou: | ivtv: User specified WinTV PVR 350 card |
| [02:22:00] | mchou: | WTF??? |
| [02:23:00] | kormoc: | mchou, m179 does the same thing for me on a amd 3000+ on a nforce 2 running fedora core 3, so no, it's not a gentoo problem. |
| [02:23:00] | mchou: | that driver or your user config must be seriously screwed. |
| [02:23:00] | mchou: | kormoc: sure it's your problem. |
| [02:23:00] | mchou: | I have it working. |
| [02:23:00] | mchou: | you don't. |
| [02:23:00] | mchou: | figure it out. |
| [02:24:00] | kormoc: | mchou, and you won't even tell me what you did to get it working. |
| [02:24:00] | kormoc: | why do you sit in help channels when all you do is be a ass? |
| [02:24:00] | mchou: | I told you exactly what I did to get it working. |
| [02:24:00] | kormoc: | yeah, but you didn't tell me what I asked |
| [02:24:00] | mchou: | like ivtv 0.2rc3f for starters. |
| [02:24:00] | kormoc: | you called me a retard for reading driver errors. |
| [02:25:00] | mchou: | dude, there are many ways to get to the same place. |
| [02:25:00] | mchou: | except you happen to be in lala land right now..... |
| [02:25:00] | kormoc: | ooh? why's that? |
| [02:25:00] | hadees: | mchou, i would love ivtv if it worked but it isn't compiling... http://pastebin.ca/19143 |
| [02:26:00] | mchou: | you can spend all your time debugging ivtv or start with one that has a track record. |
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| [02:26:00] | mchou: | haha, lame gentoo. |
| [02:27:00] | mchou: | you better use generic kernel source :) |
| [02:27:00] | kormoc: | mchou, uhh, that's why I'm using a generic kernel source direct from kernel.org and am now using ivtv 0.2.0-rc3f |
| [02:27:00] | hadees: | alright that makes no sense |
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| [02:28:00] | mchou: | hadees: ok, I remember now. |
| [02:28:00] | mchou: | I had that error I think. |
| [02:28:00] | kormoc: | hadees, you need to go below 2.6.11 iirc? |
| [02:28:00] | dagar: | what could I check if mythtv isn't skipping commericals? |
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| [02:28:00] | mchou: | no you dont |
| [02:28:00] | dagar: | the commercials have been flagged |
| [02:29:00] | kormoc: | mchou, then what is it? |
| [02:29:00] | mchou: | hadees: I dont remember what I did but it was ereal easy to correct. |
| [02:29:00] | mchou: | real* |
| [02:29:00] | hadees: | yeah i am looking on the ivtv mailing list right now |
| [02:29:00] | mchou: | you nned to change the id, or maybe even comment it out, I forget. |
| [02:30:00] | mchou: | but it's pretty obvious. |
| [02:30:00] | kormoc: | http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php? . . . rum_id=27233 |
| [02:31:00] | Fosten: | anybody know how to get sound working with the pvr-500? |
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| [02:47:00] | MrSpiffy: | yo |
| [02:48:00] | MrSpiffy: | still working on mini-tx set top box project |
| [02:48:00] | MrSpiffy: | kill me now |
| [02:48:00] | EL_Whistey: | re-making / -installing / -dicking with alsa seems to fix problem of machine-gun audio |
| [02:49:00] | mchou: | bah. Just get a real computer. problem solved :) |
| [02:49:00] | MrSpiffy: | sigh |
| [02:49:00] | MrSpiffy: | I'm currently on FC2 |
| [02:50:00] | MrSpiffy: | I have the console fram buffer driver that works |
| [02:50:00] | MrSpiffy: | lit up the TV |
| [02:50:00] | MrSpiffy: | groovy |
| [02:50:00] | MrSpiffy: | compiled alsa 1.09 from source |
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| [02:50:00] | MrSpiffy: | now it's compiling x.org from source |
| [02:50:00] | MrSpiffy: | to hell with distribs and repositories |
| [02:50:00] | MrSpiffy: | conflict conflict conflict |
| [02:50:00] | MrSpiffy: | .com |
| [02:51:00] | MrSpiffy: | :) |
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| [02:51:00] | MrSpiffy: | after x I'll start on the myhtv deps |
| [02:52:00] | MrSpiffy: | but getting x wunning with a via display driver is the next hurdle |
| [02:52:00] | MrSpiffy: | kill me now |
| [02:52:00] | mchou: | haha! |
| [02:52:00] | mchou: | you might as well use gentoo |
| [02:57:00] | MrSpiffy: | sigh |
| [02:57:00] | MrSpiffy: | so FC2 from cd for the os kernel source compilers |
| [02:58:00] | MrSpiffy: | kernel moduls from viarena for the console and frame buffer driver |
| [02:58:00] | MrSpiffy: | dri modules and x driver from dripkg |
| [02:58:00] | MrSpiffy: | x from source |
| [02:58:00] | MrSpiffy: | that's as far as I got |
| [02:58:00] | MrSpiffy: | so far |
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| [03:02:00] | MrSpiffy: | kill me now |
| [03:03:00] | hadees: | mchou, i had to go with another version of ivtv because it was patched for that error but it should be pretty much the same |
| [03:03:00] | hadees: | mchou, dmesg though http://pastebin.ca/19149 |
| [03:03:00] | sphing: | how can I test to see if lirc isnt working or if myth just isnt responding to lirc |
| [03:05:00] | xris: | sphing: irw |
| [03:05:00] | MrSpiffy: | hi xris |
| [03:05:00] | xris: | :) |
| [03:06:00] | MrSpiffy: | started over from source on the whole mini tx thing |
| [03:08:00] | sphing: | xris: I ran that and nothing happened |
| [03:10:00] | sphing: | xris: "Connection refused" with irw /dev/lircd |
| [03:12:00] | xris: | sphing: that should answer your question, then |
| [03:13:00] | sphing: | fair enough... now how can i get the connection accepted |
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| [03:20:00] | xris: | start lirc? |
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| [03:50:00] | sphing: | xris: lirc is started, after i run irw... and no output appears, but if i try to run it again, it says "connection refused" |
| [04:00:00] | [shodan]: | anyone got a recent imdb.pl script for mythvideo ? |
| [04:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | what's wrong with the one that comes with it? Or I should say the one in the latest svn works for me as of two days ago |
| [04:08:00] | [shodan]: | yeah that's the one I want , I can only use stable versions (of myth) , so the one I have is from .18 |
| [04:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | just grab it from the svn source |
| [04:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | I imagine it would work with .18, but I wouldn't know for sure |
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| [04:20:00] | abarbaccia: | okay – anybody have any ideas why the dvd-rip part of mythdvd wouldn't work? it just doesn't load anything at all... |
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| [04:24:00] | abarbaccia: | mtd was built without transcode – it won't do anything...... think that has to do with it maybe? |
| [04:30:00] | abarbaccia: | okay i'm going to downgrade to 0.17 and see if it magically works so i can isolate the bug as being the updated mtd (without transcode support) and notify the package maintainers. great job me. |
| [04:35:00] | riddlebox: | wohoo got mythdvd ripping |
| [04:35:00] | riddlebox: | man I love knoppmyth :) |
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| [04:43:00] | abarbaccia: | riddlebox, i got mythdvd ripping as well now that I reverted back to 0.17 |
| [04:43:00] | abarbaccia: | I'll have em update the new pacakge and be golden right after that |
| [04:43:00] | abarbaccia: | and as far as knoppmyth goes, its great.....if all you want is mythtv |
| [04:44:00] | abarbaccia: | i mean, i found it very scarse in terms of what else you can do with it – you cant log in as a desktop user (easily) you cant setup print servers and file servers and hell, you can't even apt-get upgrade without breaking the damn thing |
| [04:46:00] | mchou: | hadees: lemme see your modules.conf |
| [04:46:00] | travolta: | when using "U" or "J" to increase/decrease playback speed, is there a way to make it do it in smaller increments? |
| [04:48:00] | riddlebox: | I am not worried because it is debian, so I slowly add what I need |
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| [04:52:00] | riddlebox: | abarbaccia:I am slowly building my knoppmyth box into a multimedia station that will handle anything music and video and maybe a database server for me :P |
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| [05:37:00] | hadees: | . |
| [05:37:00] | hadees: | mchou, http://pastebin.ca/19160 is my modules.conf |
| [05:38:00] | hadees: | although i usally only have the line options ivtv cardtype=1,3,3 tuner=2,2,2 |
| [05:38:00] | hadees: | for ivtv |
| [05:38:00] | hadees: | the rest was just me playing around to try to get it to work |
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| [05:41:00] | LedHed: | hello all |
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| [05:45:00] | LedHed: | I'm doing a Clean Install if FC4 and I'm moving to MythTV 0.181, I've backed up Mythconverg, and dumped the program info to restore.sql per the Mythtv.org docs. And I've backed up the Data as well. Is there anything else I need to do before I Start from scratch? |
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| [05:49:00] | LedHed: | Hello Krazylegz |
| [05:49:00] | Krazylegz: | Hey LedHed. |
| [05:49:00] | Krazylegz: | I'm still having wireless problems in my house. :-( |
| [05:49:00] | LedHed: | are you Myth Savy? |
| [05:49:00] | Krazylegz: | Not really, but you can ask anyway. |
| [05:50:00] | hadees: | anyone around who migh that able to help me with my ivtv no sound problem |
| [05:51:00] | LedHed: | I'm moving to FC4 and MythTV 0.181, I've backed up the MythConverg, Program Info, and Videos. Is there anything else I should do so that I can restore everything to the new Install? |
| [05:53:00] | xris: | woah, we're up to .181 now? ;) |
| [05:53:00] | LedHed: | hadees, does the captured video have Audio if played on another computer? |
| [05:53:00] | Krazylegz: | I think that's it, but you could dd the disk to another disk just to be sure. |
| [05:53:00] | LedHed: | xris, 0.181 isnt that the latest? |
| [05:53:00] | xris: | .18.1 is the latest |
| [05:53:00] | xris: | .181 is WAY off in the future. |
| [05:53:00] | hadees: | LedHed, nop |
| [05:53:00] | LedHed: | oh, sorry. 0.18.1 |
| [05:54:00] | xris: | ;) |
| [05:54:00] | LedHed: | LOL, linux versions still confuse me |
| [05:54:00] | hadees: | LedHed, its an ivtv i did a cat on /dev/video0 and it only gave me video |
| [05:54:00] | hadees: | sound works |
| [05:54:00] | hadees: | on the computer |
| [05:55:00] | LedHed: | hadees, are you loading msp3400 |
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| [05:55:00] | hadees: | LedHed, yup |
| [05:55:00] | hadees: | and its the correct one |
| [05:57:00] | ** xris is beginning to wonder why he likes php so much over perl ** | |
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| [05:57:00] | BoarderXT: | i'm bought a new hauppauge pvr-250 and turned an old dell into a knoppmyth box, everything seems golden except the remote...i thought lirc was ready for the haupauge grey remote out of the box but i guess not, any thoughts? |
| [05:58:00] | LedHed: | BoarderXT, wou have to load the right .lircrc file for your remote |
| [05:58:00] | BoarderXT: | well i think so umm |
| [05:58:00] | BoarderXT: | i saw a forum someone said they got it to work by running /usr/local/bin/lirc-reconfig.sh |
| [05:58:00] | BoarderXT: | so i did that and made what i thought to be the best answers, still nothing |
| [05:58:00] | hadees: | xris, i am wondering that also |
| [05:59:00] | hadees: | php stinks |
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| [05:59:00] | LedHed: | BoarderXT, what Distro? |
| [05:59:00] | BoarderXT: | ledhed: knoppmyth |
| [05:59:00] | BoarderXT: | so knoppix i suppose |
| [05:59:00] | LedHed: | ;) |
| [06:00:00] | LedHed: | take a look at Jarods Howto it has a lot of good Lirc info related to the PVR-250 |
| [06:00:00] | BoarderXT: | the /etc/lirc/lircd.conf file says at the top its for the pvr-350 but it definitely isn't working on my 250 |
| [06:00:00] | xris: | hadees: so do all languages. |
| [06:00:00] | xris: | except maybe C |
| [06:01:00] | BoarderXT: | is there a repository of conf files out there? i mean if i replace the lircd.conf file and restart it will run from there right>? |
| [06:01:00] | hadees: | xris, yeah but so long as there is good debugging its okay |
| [06:02:00] | LedHed: | BoarderXT, there is another file you need to configure for your remote... its called .lircrc |
| [06:02:00] | xris: | php has good debugging. |
| [06:02:00] | BoarderXT: | ok |
| [06:02:00] | xris: | also does a lot of things for me automatically that I'd have to do manually in perl. |
| [06:02:00] | BoarderXT: | does lirc-reconfig.sh help? |
| [06:02:00] | xris: | but I miss =~ |
| [06:03:00] | LedHed: | BoarderXT, is lirc_i2c loaded? |
| [06:03:00] | LedHed: | BoarderXT, I dont know. I've never had to use lirc-reconfigure.sh |
| [06:05:00] | BoarderXT: | how can i tell if its loaded? |
| [06:05:00] | xris: | BoarderXT: lsmod |
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| [06:06:00] | BoarderXT: | yea its listed |
| [06:06:00] | BoarderXT: | what is that list of? |
| [06:06:00] | LedHed: | loaded modules |
| [06:07:00] | BoarderXT: | cool |
| [06:07:00] | [shodan]: | hmm this is strange, I tried to run a search imdb on a movie from the videomanager and I got this in the console |
| [06:07:00] | [shodan]: | 2005-08–03 00:22:04.917 Movie Search: Executing '/usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/imdb.pl -M 12 Angry men BW DVD EN' |
| [06:07:00] | [shodan]: | 2005-08–03 00:22:06.615 |
| [06:07:00] | [shodan]: | 2005-08–03 00:22:06.615 GetMovieList returned 0 possible matches |
| [06:07:00] | [shodan]: | but if I run that exac same command from a terminal I get |
| [06:07:00] | [shodan]: | shodan@glitch ~ $ /usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/imdb.pl -M 12 Angry men BW DVD EN |
| [06:07:00] | [shodan]: | 0050083:12 Angry Men (1957) |
| [06:07:00] | [shodan]: | 0248845:Hedwig and the Angry Inch (2001) |
| [06:07:00] | [shodan]: | 0118528:12 Angry Men (1997) |
| [06:07:00] | [shodan]: | 0222722:Angry (1991) |
| [06:07:00] | BoarderXT: | lirc_dev is also there |
| [06:07:00] | [shodan]: | any explaination ? |
| [06:07:00] | hadees: | [shodan], ever hear of a pastebin |
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| [06:10:00] | MrGhoose: | hello |
| [06:10:00] | BoarderXT: | ledhed: so could you recommend a good course of action? i'm pretty good with linux but am new to all of this. |
| [06:10:00] | MrGhoose: | Anyone using a Geforce2 MX100 video card? |
| [06:10:00] | LedHed: | xris, I backed up my MythVideo Drive lastnignt. +3 Hours.... I backed up mythconverg and backed up the program info to restore.sql. is there anything else I need to do to backup Myth so that I can move it to my new FC4 install? |
| [06:12:00] | LedHed: | BoarderXT, go here: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php#lirc |
| [06:12:00] | LedHed: | if that doesnt help you then I don't know what will.... |
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| [06:12:00] | xris: | mysql.txt? |
| [06:13:00] | xris: | LedHed: I generally: mkdir /old && mv /* /old |
| [06:13:00] | xris: | then pinky the machine |
| [06:13:00] | BoarderXT: | ledhed: thanks i appreciate it |
| [06:13:00] | LedHed: | BoarderXT, No Prob |
| [06:13:00] | LedHed: | xris, you duplicate your entire install? |
| [06:14:00] | xris: | LedHed: mv, not cp |
| [06:14:00] | xris: | once the new install is up and running, I go through the old directories and move out things I forgot from /usr/local, /etc, etc. |
| [06:14:00] | LedHed: | ok, thanks.... |
| [06:15:00] | xris: | call me over-paranoid. heh. |
| [06:15:00] | LedHed: | ;) |
| [06:15:00] | LedHed: | ok, time to nuke the drives. wish me luck |
| [06:16:00] | MrGhoose: | xris: you know anything about Geforce 2 MX100 with mythtv? |
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| [06:17:00] | xris: | nope |
| [06:17:00] | travolta: | what do you want to know about it? |
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| [06:21:00] | MrGhoose: | travolta: i want to know if tvout will work with it |
| [06:21:00] | MrGhoose: | in linux |
| [06:22:00] | travolta: | probably will |
| [06:24:00] | travolta: | lol |
| [06:24:00] | travolta: | its the same card i got in my backend |
| [06:24:00] | travolta: | yea it will work |
| [06:25:00] | MrGhoose: | cool |
| [06:25:00] | MrGhoose: | was it hard to get it working? |
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| [06:26:00] | travolta: | define hard |
| [06:27:00] | travolta: | with google and reading the docs, you can get it working |
| [06:27:00] | travolta: | nvidia docs |
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| [06:28:00] | MrGhoose: | ok |
| [06:28:00] | MrGhoose: | cool |
| [06:31:00] | MrGhoose: | do you have any sync problems or video problems playing back files? |
| [06:31:00] | mchou: | hadees: for the time being dont put cardtype in modules.conf |
| [06:31:00] | travolta: | no |
| [06:32:00] | mchou: | hadees: and get rid of all other ivtv related stuff in there. |
| [06:33:00] | hadees: | mchou, okay |
| [06:35:00] | mchou: | hadees: you compile ivtv from source? |
| [06:37:00] | hadees: | mchou, yup |
| [06:37:00] | mchou: | then gimme path printed out bu modinfo ivtv |
| [06:38:00] | mchou: | by* |
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| [06:42:00] | hadees: | mchou: http://pastebin.ca/19162 |
| [06:45:00] | mchou: | wtf. I asked you for the file path |
| [06:45:00] | mchou: | where the fuck is it? |
| [06:46:00] | mchou: | it should on the first line. |
| [06:47:00] | Atamido: | What is the command to configure mythtv? |
| [06:47:00] | hadees: | Atamido, mythsetup |
| [06:48:00] | hadees: | mchou, i don't know what to tell you thats what modinfo gives me |
| [06:48:00] | mchou: | hadees: wtf |
| [06:48:00] | mchou: | then go find it on the path if you have to and stop using lame gentoo |
| [06:49:00] | Atamido: | Ah, I probably have to be root? |
| [06:49:00] | hadees: | mchou, /lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r4/ivtv/ivtv.ko |
| [06:49:00] | hadees: | Atamido, nope but you should read the docs and stop asking dumb questions |
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| [06:50:00] | Atamido: | I've read the docs, but it's been a while and I just need to make a quick change. |
| [06:50:00] | mchou: | hadees: what other files are in this dir? pastebin ls -al |
| [06:50:00] | Atamido: | One command is hardly a sin. |
| [06:50:00] | mchou: | '/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r4/ivtv/ |
| [06:50:00] | Atamido: | Besides, I had already tried typing mythsetup. |
| [06:51:00] | hadees: | mchou, http://pastebin.ca/19163 |
| [06:52:00] | adante: | Atamido: try mythtv-setup |
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| [06:54:00] | mchou: | hadees: so what happened when you tried it w/o cardtype parameter? |
| [06:54:00] | hadees: | mchou, no sound and the channel won't change on the m179s |
| [06:54:00] | mchou: | hadees: you know the drill. ivtv output. |
| [06:54:00] | mchou: | giving info I cant do shit with. |
| [06:55:00] | slePP: | does anyone know the part number for the s-video bracket for the Asus Terminator series? |
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| [06:58:00] | hadees: | mchou, dmesg = http://pastebin.ca/19164 |
| [06:58:00] | MrGhoose: | anyone have a xorg config where the CRT and tv show the same desktop? |
| [07:02:00] | mchou: | hadees: ivtv: i2c client id: 0x02 not found! |
| [07:02:00] | mchou: | that's probably not a good sign as far as ivtv is concerned. |
| [07:03:00] | hadees: | yeah i saw that, i was trying to find something on it |
| [07:03:00] | hadees: | but does that have to do with audio? |
| [07:03:00] | mchou: | lol: saa7115: now setting Composite input |
| [07:03:00] | mchou: | that's what you wanted? |
| [07:04:00] | mchou: | dont you want tuner? |
| [07:04:00] | hadees: | yeah |
| [07:04:00] | mchou: | haha! |
| [07:04:00] | hadees: | but thats with out anything |
| [07:04:00] | mchou: | you better start using ivtvctl |
| [07:05:00] | hadees: | i did when testing |
| [07:05:00] | mchou: | no, but it explains why channel wont change and no audio. |
| [07:06:00] | hadees: | so why does the pvr250 change |
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| [07:07:00] | mchou: | beats me. |
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| [07:07:00] | hadees: | mchou, so what am i supposed to do with ivtvctl? |
| [07:07:00] | J14607: | Does anyone know about changing channels via Firewire on the SA 3250HD? |
| [07:08:00] | mchou: | hadees: start by reading the ivtvctl --help instructions |
| [07:08:00] | mchou: | -G and -P are your friends |
| [07:09:00] | Atamido: | adante |
| [07:09:00] | Atamido: | adante: Thanks. |
| [07:10:00] | mchou: | I meant -P and -Q. -a also helps. |
| [07:12:00] | mchou: | hadees: lines 16 and 17 is why 250 works. nor correspondings lines for you there on m179 |
| [07:12:00] | mchou: | in your last ivtv output in pastebin. |
| [07:14:00] | mchou: | I think that version of ivtv driver is severely bugged. |
| [07:15:00] | hadees: | Kennedy says it is stable |
| [07:15:00] | mchou: | kennedy is wrong. |
| [07:15:00] | hadees: | so that help tells me how to use it but not really waht to do |
| [07:15:00] | mchou: | look at the source code. |
| [07:15:00] | travolta: | MrGhoose, look in /usr/share/doc/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0/XF86Config.sample |
| [07:15:00] | mchou: | and the output. It's fubar. |
| [07:16:00] | mchou: | he's not probing the right i2c addrs. |
| [07:16:00] | MrGhoose: | travolta: yea lookin at it now and set it up but still no output to tv. I dont even get output when the pc first boots up |
| [07:17:00] | mchou: | hadees: put your brain on |
| [07:17:00] | mchou: | start with ivtvctl -a -d /dev/video1 |
| [07:18:00] | mchou: | I dont get why ppl are so lazy they cant engage in some simple debugging. |
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| [07:18:00] | hadees: | Input = 0: Tuner Audio In |
| [07:19:00] | hadees: | mchou, i do debugging all the time, never really had a problem with ivtv though except the tuner thing |
| [07:19:00] | mchou: | huh?? |
| [07:19:00] | mchou: | that's it from ivtvctl -a? |
| [07:19:00] | hadees: | mchou, oh no that is my guess at the problem right |
| [07:20:00] | hadees: | http://pastebin.ca/19167 |
| [07:20:00] | hadees: | that is the output |
| [07:21:00] | mchou: | so set the frequency |
| [07:24:00] | mchou: | lines 86 and 97 at least are set to corrct values |
| [07:24:00] | hadees: | yeah i noticed that, what else is there to set |
| [07:25:00] | mchou: | line 99. |
| [07:25:00] | J14607: | Does anyone know about channel changing via Firewire on the SA 3250HD? |
| [07:27:00] | mchou: | hadees: you need to revert to an earlier version of ivtv. This version definitely fubar. |
| [07:27:00] | mchou: | i2c is what allows your tuner to be detected and set. |
| [07:27:00] | hadees: | mchou, i couldn't get the one you gave me to compile but i think you might be right |
| [07:27:00] | mchou: | no successful i2c init, dont expect to use tuner. |
| [07:27:00] | hadees: | mchou, yeah but if the video is working could that really be the cause |
| [07:27:00] | hadees: | mchou, i was able to change the channel when i set the tuner my self |
| [07:27:00] | mchou: | huh?? |
| [07:27:00] | hadees: | in the options |
| [07:27:00] | hadees: | module options |
| [07:27:00] | mchou: | tuner=2,2,2 in modules.conf, no? |
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| [07:28:00] | hadees: | mchou, yeah |
| [07:28:00] | mchou: | so? |
| [07:28:00] | hadees: | i also set the card type |
| [07:29:00] | mchou: | it obviously didnt set tuner to 2 on m179s this time. |
| [07:29:00] | hadees: | well you said if no i2c i can't use the tuner, it seems like it is only screwing up audio |
| [07:29:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [07:29:00] | hadees: | mchou, i had the options off like you said |
| [07:29:00] | mchou: | except ivtv tought cardtype was 150 :) |
| [07:29:00] | mchou: | huh?? |
| [07:29:00] | mchou: | I told you to delete cardtype (but leave tuner in there) |
| [07:30:00] | hadees: | <mchou> hadees: for the time being dont put cardtype in modules.conf |
| [07:30:00] | hadees: | <mchou> hadees: and get rid of all other ivtv related stuff in there. |
| [07:31:00] | mchou: | that meant other lines |
| [07:31:00] | mchou: | wtf. |
| [07:33:00] | hadees: | well there seems we had some miss communcations, that what the "fuck" is about |
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| [07:40:00] | rabies: | hey, im trying to figure out how to set how the video is initally encoded |
| [07:40:00] | rabies: | there any docs or info on that? |
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| [07:40:00] | rabies: | i wanna make sure that the video is initally captured using the hardware mpeg2 compression and not the rtjpeg codec |
| [07:41:00] | rabies: | anyone know where to look? |
| [07:46:00] | rabies: | hello? |
| [07:46:00] | pirre: | hm |
| [07:47:00] | pirre: | there's an application for windows called G-spot that will tell you what codecs was used for creating a video file |
| [07:47:00] | pirre: | maybe try that? |
| [07:47:00] | pirre: | not sure if there's an equivalent for linux |
| [07:49:00] | adante: | you can dump codec info with transcode/mplayer.. possibly (probably?) xine as well |
| [07:49:00] | xris: | adante: mplayer -identify has a ton of info. |
| [07:51:00] | Atamido: | I want to auto-transcode recorded shows to MPEG-4 from the MPEG-2 they are recorded in, to take less space. But I am unable to find the option to enable auto-transcode. |
| [07:51:00] | Atamido: | I assume it is in mythtv-setup? |
| [07:52:00] | adante: | Atamido: mythfrontend->setup->recording profiles |
| [07:52:00] | Atamido: | Ah, thank you. I will do that. |
| [07:54:00] | rabies: | pirre: i dunno where the files are saved |
| [07:54:00] | rabies: | you know? |
| [07:54:00] | rabies: | where are the video files saved? |
| [07:55:00] | Atamido: | adante: I cannot find a "recording profiles" |
| [07:55:00] | ** Atamido is feeling like he is doing something really dumb right now. ** | |
| [07:55:00] | didj: | under tv settings |
| [07:55:00] | rabies: | let me see if i can be more specific: where are myth's video recordings saved |
| [07:55:00] | rabies: | :) |
| [07:56:00] | adante: | Atamido: my bad (memory).. what didj said |
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| [07:56:00] | didj: | rabies: iirc, in general backend setup |
| [07:56:00] | didj: | you can find where |
| [07:56:00] | rabies: | didj: how do i access that? |
| [07:56:00] | adante: | mythtv-setup :) |
| [07:56:00] | didj: | ya ;P |
| [07:56:00] | adante: | (the strangest feeling of deja vu) |
| [07:57:00] | rabies: | :) |
| [07:57:00] | rabies: | thanks |
| [07:58:00] | rabies: | looks like rtmpegs |
| [07:58:00] | rabies: | er, rtjpegs |
| [07:58:00] | rabies: | how do ichange that? |
| [07:58:00] | didj: | what card have you got? |
| [07:58:00] | rabies: | im getting really bad motion trails |
| [07:58:00] | rabies: | its annoying |
| [07:59:00] | rabies: | PVR150 |
| [08:00:00] | didj: | ah, mmm,i *guess* tv settings->encoders |
| [08:00:00] | didj: | [dunno what that card is :p] |
| [08:01:00] | didj: | i just got dvb which just saves the mpeg2 stream regardless of encoder settings (the only option it appears to honour is auto transcode) |
| [08:01:00] | rabies: | that in -setup or frontend? |
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| [08:01:00] | didj: | frontend, same place Atamido was |
| [08:02:00] | didj: | setup->tv settings->recording profiles i think |
| [08:02:00] | MrGhoose: | travolta: you around? can you send me your xorg.conf |
| [08:02:00] | rabies: | how do i specify the recording profile before recording? |
| [08:02:00] | didj: | "encoders" |
| [08:02:00] | rabies: | it lets me choose from default, high qual, low qual, etc, but thats it |
| [08:02:00] | didj: | yea |
| [08:02:00] | rabies: | not the 3 before that |
| [08:02:00] | rabies: | the uh... |
| [08:03:00] | didj: | if your card supplies uncompressed data, it uses the Encoder profile |
| [08:03:00] | Atamido: | didj: Thanks, found it. But how do I set it to auto-transcode? |
| [08:03:00] | didj: | otherwise, afaik, it just dumps in the compressed format |
| [08:03:00] | rabies: | well its a mpeg2 encoder card, so i guess it provides a mpeg2 compressed stream? |
| [08:03:00] | rabies: | okay |
| [08:03:00] | didj: | Atamido: in the respective profile, 'Automatically transcode after recording' |
| [08:04:00] | rabies: | i cant change the bitrate or anyhing? |
| [08:04:00] | didj: | rabies: well, if its anything like mine, (DVB->mpeg2), it doesnt matter |
| [08:04:00] | didj: | caus it just dumps mpeg2 directly to disk |
| [08:04:00] | didj: | so i generally auto transcode to mpeg4 |
| [08:04:00] | rabies: | k |
| [08:05:00] | rabies: | does mpeg2 always have such bad motion trails? |
| [08:05:00] | didj: | the cool thing is, because it dumps the stream directly == almost no cpu usage |
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| [08:05:00] | rabies: | how do you do that? |
| [08:05:00] | didj: | do what ? |
| [08:05:00] | rabies: | er, first the motion trail question :) |
| [08:05:00] | rabies: | i dont really need to autotranscode |
| [08:05:00] | didj: | im ripping off SDTV, so its near perfect quality |
| [08:06:00] | rabies: | as in 640x480, or as in higher? |
| [08:06:00] | didj: | iirc, 720x576 (here atleast) |
| [08:07:00] | adante: | didj: have you ever tried to transcode mpeg4's? i might have already asked this |
| [08:07:00] | didj: | adante: as in to .avi ? |
| [08:08:00] | adante: | didj: nah just to mpeg4 or whatever again :) i just want to edit out the cutlist (after watching) |
| [08:08:00] | rabies: | wow, im lagigng |
| [08:08:00] | didj: | adante: yea, should fine ? |
| [08:08:00] | didj: | just internally transcoding |
| [08:09:00] | adante: | didj: comes out spastic for me – seeking is horrific, some other problems i forget now |
| [08:09:00] | didj: | mmm, weird |
| [08:10:00] | adante: | i think major keyframe distortion anyway |
| [08:10:00] | adante: | someone i asked on this channel said mpeg4->anything transcoding would be painful because of the nature of the codec |
| [08:11:00] | didj: | hmmm, ive done mpeg2[direct stream]->mpeg4[auto transcode]->cutlist->mpeg4 w/o errors |
| [08:11:00] | didj: | seems to play fine, and no commercials, woot ;) |
| [08:12:00] | adante: | eh i'll have to try again then |
| [08:12:00] | didj: | maybe whacky libraries |
| [08:12:00] | adante: | was the 2nd transcode with the same options? |
| [08:12:00] | didj: | yea |
| [08:12:00] | adante: | hurr actually now that i think about it i might have disabled all the quality options on the 2nd.. |
| [08:14:00] | didj: | mm, "shouldnt" of made a diff, but 'shouldnt' is a big word in anything computer related ;P |
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| [08:40:00] | [shodan]: | in mythvideo , when a file has "play file after this", where, in the database, is stored the name of the file to play after ? (which table/column) |
| [08:42:00] | rabies: | um |
| [08:42:00] | rabies: | is there any way to eliminate motion trails from a video? |
| [08:42:00] | rabies: | i've never seen it so bad w/ mpeg2 |
| [08:43:00] | [shodan]: | enable deinterlacing |
| [08:44:00] | rabies: | where? |
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| [08:44:00] | rabies: | its hardware mpeg2, is there a way to deinterlace it? |
| [08:46:00] | rabies: | [shodan]: how do i deinterlace? |
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| [08:47:00] | [shodan]: | setup>setup>tv settings>playback> check deinterlacing |
| [08:50:00] | rabies: | huge difference |
| [08:50:00] | rabies: | thanks man |
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| [09:44:00] | Atamido: | Yay! I finally got most of my auto-recording set up for different quality settings. |
| [09:45:00] | Atamido: | Anyone know what version of vorbis encoder is default with knoppmyth? |
| [09:45:00] | fourcheeze: | attempting to install myth on my athlon64/gentoo box |
| [09:45:00] | fourcheeze: | emerge -a mythtv |
| [09:45:00] | fourcheeze: | wants to install linuxtv-dvb |
| [09:46:00] | fourcheeze: | which I think is the dvb driver |
| [09:46:00] | fourcheeze: | but I already have a 2.6 kernel |
| [09:46:00] | fourcheeze: | or am I missing something? |
| [09:46:00] | fourcheeze: | in fact it's libdvb that wants to install those |
| [09:47:00] | fourcheeze: | how do I stop this? |
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| [09:55:00] | Atamido: | Why do you want to stop that? |
| [09:55:00] | Atamido: | Does it matter if an extra lib is emerged? |
| [09:56:00] | Atamido: | (Although I'm pretty sure you can just un-merge it afterwards.) |
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| [09:57:00] | Atamido: | fourcheeze: I am guessing these people might be more help? irc://irc.freenode.net/gentoo |
| [09:57:00] | ** Atamido wonders. ** | |
| [09:57:00] | fourcheeze: | hehe |
| [09:57:00] | fourcheeze: | yeah, possibly |
| [09:58:00] | fourcheeze: | I just know there are some gentoo/mythtv users here |
| [09:58:00] | fourcheeze: | the problem is that the linuxtv drivers don't build |
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| [09:58:00] | ** Atamido once spent two strait weeks trying to get Gentoo to work with MythTV before giving up. ** | |
| [09:58:00] | fourcheeze: | because they are for 2.4 I thnk |
| [09:58:00] | fourcheeze: | aha |
| [09:59:00] | Atamido: | :P |
| [09:59:00] | fourcheeze: | I had it working before on i386 |
| [09:59:00] | ** fourcheeze uses gentoo for work ** | |
| [10:00:00] | Atamido: | There are a number of people in the channel using it with Gentoo, but I never got it to work. |
| [10:00:00] | Atamido: | Of course, that was a year ago so many things may have changed. |
| [10:00:00] | fourcheeze: | gentoo is a very manual OS |
| [10:00:00] | fourcheeze: | I was going to use ubuntu |
| [10:01:00] | fourcheeze: | but it's missing transcode on amd64 |
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| [10:04:00] | ** Atamido went the easy route and installed KnoppMyth to have an install up in a couple of hours. ** | |
| [10:04:00] | fourcheeze: | I don't think that's built for amd64 though |
| [10:04:00] | fourcheeze: | otherwise I might have tried it |
| [10:06:00] | fourcheeze: | I know you can run i386 stuff on athlon64 but that kinda defeats the object :-) |
| [10:07:00] | Atamido: | I'm sure it's not, but hey. ;) |
| [10:07:00] | fourcheeze: | this box really flies though |
| [10:08:00] | fourcheeze: | it's going to be quite different to my last myth box which was a 1GHz Via |
| [10:08:00] | Atamido: | Kinda seems like overkill. |
| [10:08:00] | fourcheeze: | not really, these are very cheap processors |
| [10:09:00] | Atamido: | Unless you're decoding some serious HDTV. |
| [10:09:00] | fourcheeze: | ahh, well I'm going to be putting all my music on it too |
| [10:09:00] | fourcheeze: | so lots of mp3 generation |
| [10:09:00] | fourcheeze: | and probably dvd ripping also |
| [10:10:00] | Atamido: | Yeah, overkill. :P |
| [10:10:00] | fourcheeze: | he |
| [10:10:00] | fourcheeze: | well it depends how long you want that to take |
| [10:10:00] | fourcheeze: | speed can never hurt |
| [10:10:00] | ** Atamido wishes he had enough $$$ to afford overkill. ** | |
| [10:10:00] | fourcheeze: | how much do you think this box cost? |
| [10:10:00] | Atamido: | Well, I don't really know anything about it. |
| [10:11:00] | Atamido: | But I don't have enough money for any new box. |
| [10:11:00] | fourcheeze: | AMD Athlon 64 2800+, 1GB RAM, 80GB hdd (soon to be upgraded) |
| [10:11:00] | Atamido: | I'm using a system that is about 3 years old. |
| [10:12:00] | fourcheeze: | whereabouts are you? |
| [10:14:00] | Atamido: | Austin, Texas, USA |
| [10:14:00] | fourcheeze: | ok |
| [10:14:00] | fourcheeze: | well this box cost me £300 UKP which is about $500 |
| [10:14:00] | fourcheeze: | which is pretty cheap I think |
| [10:17:00] | Atamido: | Not to shabby. |
| [10:17:00] | Atamido: | I really want to get one of the dual core chips. |
| [10:17:00] | fourcheeze: | yeah |
| [10:17:00] | fourcheeze: | I'm about to spec a dual cpu/dual core opteron for a customer |
| [10:18:00] | Atamido: | :O |
| [10:19:00] | Atamido: | At work we're looking at putting in a server with 2.5TB just to store video from police cars. |
| [10:19:00] | Atamido: | The original proposal called for dual Xeons, but I'm thinking Opterons. |
| [10:20:00] | Atamido: | I don't know about dual cores though, that's pretty insane. |
| [10:22:00] | Atamido: | Insane like the guy on the IVTV mailinglist that was trying to put 16 video capture cards in a single system. |
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| [10:48:00] | fourcheeze: | opterons rock |
| [10:48:00] | fourcheeze: | what OS will you use for that? |
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| [11:13:00] | Delgul: | A question: Qould it be possible to set somewhere that mythtv reads its data at a one second delay from the ringbuffer when watching TV? I found that it greatly reduces the system load (and improves smoothness) when I hit the "left arrow" once during playback, so that it will read a bit delayed... |
| [11:13:00] | Delgul: | But I dont want to hit this button every time. |
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| [12:06:00] | Fosten: | anybody have suggestions on getting atitvout configured on a gentoo system? all i get is a jumbled picture |
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| [13:45:00] | Smirk: | will i beable to get drivers to work for an pvr-250 if im using a 64 bit system |
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| [13:52:00] | Smirk: | hello |
| [13:57:00] | cochi: | hiya |
| [13:59:00] | _Lya_: | Smirk: yes. |
| [13:59:00] | _Lya_: | You will be able to get your drivers to compile/work on a 64 bit system. |
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| [14:02:00] | Smirk: | cool thank you |
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| [14:38:00] | bjohnson: | Beirdo: you in TO? |
| [14:38:00] | bjohnson: | Summer Cruise with Stars and Cigars – Wednesday, 24 August $99 |
| [14:38:00] | bjohnson: | http://cigarbodega.sites.toronto.com/page/16b34/What_s_New.html |
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| [14:43:00] | samlow_: | is there a way of programming mythv using the command line? |
| [14:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | No |
| [14:44:00] | _Lya_: | telnet localhost:6543, or mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg |
| [14:44:00] | _Lya_: | ;-) |
| [14:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | the answer didn't change, I just pointed out that the question was more appropriate for here |
| [14:46:00] | samlow_: | thanks again GreyFoxx .. but .. telnet localhost 6543 doesn't allow me to enter |
| [14:48:00] | fourcheeze: | samlow_: what does it do? |
| [14:48:00] | samlow_: | Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. and nothing more |
| [14:48:00] | fourcheeze: | you're in :-) |
| [14:48:00] | _Lya_: | no, no, its owrking. |
| [14:48:00] | _Lya_: | you just have to figure out what commands to send it now. |
| [14:49:00] | _Lya_: | which, i have no idea what they are off hand.. look at the source code. |
| [14:49:00] | samlow_: | ah |
| [14:49:00] | samlow_: | okok |
| [14:49:00] | fourcheeze: | strange it doesn't have a banner |
| [14:49:00] | samlow_: | i understand |
| [14:49:00] | fourcheeze: | that would be cooler |
| [14:49:00] | _Lya_: | I would recommend installing mythweb or something, and using lynx |
| [14:49:00] | fourcheeze: | or write a command line app |
| [14:49:00] | fourcheeze: | record news bbc1 18:30 |
| [14:49:00] | samlow_: | yeah.. but i didn't whant to install apache+php in this machine |
| [14:50:00] | fourcheeze: | why not? |
| [14:50:00] | samlow_: | a command line app would be nice |
| [14:50:00] | samlow_: | link mldonkey |
| [14:50:00] | samlow_: | like mldonkey |
| [14:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't see it worth the development effort to make a commandline util with mythweb available, but you are more thanw elcome to work on one |
| [14:52:00] | fourcheeze: | never tried mythweb |
| [14:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use it all the time |
| [14:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | I do all my scheduling in it |
| [14:52:00] | fourcheeze: | aha |
| [14:52:00] | fourcheeze: | I'll have to give it a go |
| [14:53:00] | samlow_: | where can i find the documentation for the myth protocol (or whaterver) |
| [14:53:00] | fourcheeze: | try running tcpdump on the connection |
| [14:53:00] | fourcheeze: | on a working installation |
| [14:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | samlow_: Honestly the best documentation is the source code, but I belive there is a wiki/page out there somewhere |
| [14:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nothin officially maintained though |
| [14:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | and certainly a tcpdump of the traffic between a working frontend and backend would help you immensely I would expect |
| [14:56:00] | samlow_: | is it as simple as inserting a new record in the recordings table in mysql? or more tables are involved in a program scheduling? |
| [14:57:00] | Cromz: | mythweb is awesome. just wished it didn't show the whole listing for that time period. maybe half so it could be alittle faster.. I mean over my cable to work it takes a bit to load the listing :/ |
| [14:57:00] | laga: | Cromz: mod_gzip? |
| [14:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | samlow_: You should use the myth protocol. It will handle all of that |
| [14:59:00] | Cromz: | laga: that'll help? |
| [14:59:00] | laga: | Cromz: i think so, but it's possible that it's already activated. try phpsysinfo (google for that, it's just one command for php) |
| [15:00:00] | Cromz: | already got that ;) |
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| [15:22:00] | MrGhoose: | anyone using a geforce 2 mx100/200? |
| [15:24:00] | laga: | i used to do so. it sucked. :) |
| [15:24:00] | MrGhoose: | what sucked? |
| [15:24:00] | MrGhoose: | about it |
| [15:25:00] | laga: | umm, no 'real' overscan, the picture quality was bad, an annoying blue line at the top of the screen... |
| [15:25:00] | cochi: | aaaapropos |
| [15:25:00] | fourcheeze: | I've got an mx400 |
| [15:25:00] | cochi: | Matrox G400 DH... option or not? |
| [15:25:00] | MrGhoose: | laga: ahh what would you recommend? |
| [15:25:00] | MrGhoose: | is a geforce 2 mx400 ok? |
| [15:25:00] | fourcheeze: | ok for what? |
| [15:25:00] | MrGhoose: | tvout |
| [15:26:00] | laga: | cochi: i have one lying around. It's a PITA, imho. but get another opinion. |
| [15:26:00] | MrGhoose: | laga: what would you recommend? |
| [15:26:00] | fourcheeze: | ahh dunno |
| [15:26:00] | fourcheeze: | I don't use tv out, my tv has RGB in |
| [15:26:00] | laga: | MrGhoose: geforce 4 mx 400. and i've heard good things about the fx 5200. |
| [15:26:00] | cochi: | laga, well i bought one as it was recommended for superiour tv out. indeed it has, but is DX6 and the windows htpc solutions all needed dx9 |
| [15:26:00] | laga: | MrGhoose: the geforce 2 mx 400 is the same crap. same chipset, but different clock frequencies, iirc |
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| [16:02:00] | sphing: | anyone help with http://pastebin.com/328375 |
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| [16:44:00] | directhex|work: | any guesses? --> mythtranscode: mpeg2trans.cpp:668: bool MPEG2trans::process_video(AVPacket*, bool): Assertion `0' failed. |
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| [16:49:00] | pirre: | directhex|work: when are you getting that? What are you trying to do=? |
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| [16:50:00] | directhex|work: | pirre, mythtranscode keeps failing when the frontend (or back, they're the same machine) tries to run it. if i run it manually, i get the following output: |
| [16:50:00] | directhex|work: | bloaty:/usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/config# mythtranscode -p autodetect -i /mnt/mythtv/Recordings/1002_20050731190000_20050731194500.nuv /tmp/ |
| [16:50:00] | directhex|work: | Stream: 0 Type: 0 |
| [16:50:00] | directhex|work: | Stream: 1 Type: 1 |
| [16:50:00] | directhex|work: | Input #0, mpeg, from '/mnt/mythtv/Recordings/1002_20050731190000_20050731194500.nuv': |
| [16:50:00] | directhex|work: | Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg2video, 720x576, 25.00 fps, 6500 kb/s |
| [16:50:00] | directhex|work: | Stream #0.1: Audio: mp2, 48000 Hz, stereo, 256 kb/s |
| [16:50:00] | directhex|work: | mythtranscode: mpeg2trans.cpp:668: bool MPEG2trans::process_video(AVPacket*, bool): Assertion `0' failed. |
| [16:50:00] | directhex|work: | Aborted |
| [16:51:00] | pirre: | no idea, sorry :/ |
| [16:51:00] | directhex|work: | heh. "else // something went terribly wrong!" |
| [16:51:00] | Chutt: | the mpeg2->mpeg2 transcoding doesn't work right |
| [16:52:00] | Chutt: | so, don't use it. |
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| [16:52:00] | laga: | what about the new patch? ;) |
| [16:52:00] | Chutt: | there's that, sure |
| [16:53:00] | ** laga still needs to try it ** | |
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| [16:53:00] | laga: | Chutt: isn't mfd supposd to be a replacement for this kind of stuff? |
| [16:53:00] | directhex|work: | Chutt, so what's the correct way to transcode a dvb recording to something a bit more... windows-friendly |
| [16:53:00] | Chutt: | use another tool |
| [16:54:00] | Chutt: | windows should play a dvb recording fine, though |
| [16:54:00] | laga: | directhex|work: nuvexport? |
| [16:54:00] | Chutt: | it's standard mpeg |
| [16:54:00] | directhex|work: | despite the .nuv extension? |
| [16:55:00] | Chutt: | uh, yes |
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| [16:56:00] | directhex|work: | okay, well i'll poke about with that later. |
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| [16:58:00] | fun: | ive got a tuner that plays the first few seconds of video, then freezes, then returns me to the main menu screen. says something about a prebuffering pause and bad sockets. heres the message: http://pastebin.com/328406 |
| [16:58:00] | fun: | anyone have any idea what to do? |
| [16:59:00] | directhex|work: | and while people who know there stuff are present, any suggestions on 2.6 ide-cd cd burning? the drive isn't listed in the mythmusic (i think) config screens; presumably it wants a SCSI device instead, is there a way to force the issue? |
| [17:01:00] | Krazylegz: | Lookup the ide-scsi boot option. |
| [17:01:00] | directhex|work: | does that still work? it always seemed discouraged in 2.6 |
| [17:05:00] | Krazylegz: | Oh, no idea. I only tried that with 2.4. |
| [17:05:00] | Krazylegz: | It worked there! |
| [17:05:00] | directhex|work: | it was standard on 2.4 |
| [17:06:00] | directhex|work: | as far as i can tell (and i'm no expert), "cdrecord --scanbus" is being used to determine which devices are available – but jorg schilling is violently opposed to $not_solaris, so 2.6's $not_solaris ATAPI cd burning doesn't get shown up on --scanbus |
| [17:06:00] | laga: | directhex|work: cdrecord --scanbus dev=ATAPI |
| [17:07:00] | directhex|work: | laga, i know how to get things to show up in the console, but it's convincing myth to do it... |
| [17:07:00] | laga: | directhex|work: edit the database? |
| [17:08:00] | Atamido: | Delgul: There is an option about audio prebuffering. Perhaps if you forced it to buffer extra audio, it would force to buffer more TV also. |
| [17:08:00] | Atamido: | ? |
| [17:09:00] | ** Atamido is guessing wildly. ** | |
| [17:11:00] | directhex|work: | oh. handy. it's hardcoded in mythplugins-0.18.1/mythmusic/mythmusic/globalsettings.cpp |
| [17:11:00] | laga: | directhex|work: thanks, i still have to set up this, too |
| [17:11:00] | laga: | directhex|work: umm, or even better: send a patch ;)) |
| [17:12:00] | directhex|work: | laga, a ganeral patch, i'm not sure what to do, i'm no c++ programmer nor do i understand the myth codebase. a personal patch, i just change args += "--scanbus"; to args += "-dev=/dev/hdc --scanbus"; |
| [17:13:00] | directhex|work: | means bloody recompiling though. bah. |
| [17:14:00] | laga: | directhex|work: heh |
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| [17:15:00] | sphing: | anyone help me out with lirc? |
| [17:15:00] | directhex|work: | i'm a big girl-pants who uses aptitude for installing things, i dislike the idea of needing to compile this myself. especially when i'm not even sure which g++ version to use |
| [17:16:00] | laga: | directhex|work: gcc 3.2.x, 3.3.x, 3.4.x and 4.0.x work fine |
| [17:16:00] | directhex|work: | yeah, but you can't mix 4.0 and 3.x, due to the ABI change |
| [17:16:00] | laga: | yeah |
| [17:16:00] | directhex|work: | my myth machine uses 4.0 by default, and the rest of the myth packages were built with 3.4 |
| [17:17:00] | laga: | rcompile everything ;) |
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| [17:18:00] | directhex|work: | :| |
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| [17:18:00] | directhex|work: | Depends: libasound2 (>> 1.0.8), libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1–21), libfreetype6 (>= 2.1.5–1), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.4.1–3) |
| [17:19:00] | directhex|work: | hey....... myth uses OSS, why the libasound dependancy? *boggles* |
| [17:19:00] | laga: | directhex|work: umm |
| [17:19:00] | laga: | directhex|work: edit debian/control (iirc) |
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| [17:19:00] | laga: | directhex|work: the configure step and the dependencies |
| [17:20:00] | directhex|work: | i don't think i can actually install the build dependancies though, not at the moment |
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| [17:20:00] | laga: | well, that's why you'd edit the file |
| [17:20:00] | laga: | bullshit. i meant debian/rules |
| [17:20:00] | laga: | sry |
| [17:21:00] | directhex|work: | and the dependancy on qt libraries? kde is dead at the moment in debian unstable |
| [17:21:00] | laga: | umm, well, you totally need qt-dev |
| [17:21:00] | directhex|work: | s' my own fault for mixing sid & sarge, but still, it's annoying |
| [17:21:00] | laga: | that's what you get for running debian unstable ;) |
| [17:22:00] | laga: | my mythboxen run debian stable just fine |
| [17:23:00] | directhex|work: | there are things that force my hand |
| [17:23:00] | laga: | like, the voices in your head? |
| [17:24:00] | directhex|work: | e.g. my tv cards and sata controller need 2.6.12 and 2.6.11 respectively |
| [17:24:00] | directhex|work: | there was definitely something specific though..... |
| [17:25:00] | fun: | is there anyone with a pvr-500 that could help me get mine set up correctly? |
| [17:27:00] | stoffel_: | fun: cochi also has/had problems. maybe he can |
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| [17:28:00] | fun: | is there a way i can tell which /dev/videoX is set to which tuner in mythtv? |
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| [17:30:00] | Evenix: | Hi all |
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| [17:31:00] | cochi: | can i? |
| [17:31:00] | cochi: | oh probably |
| [17:31:00] | cochi: | ok regarding that /dev/video i can't :| |
| [17:31:00] | cochi: | i barely got the ivtv stuff to work ;) |
| [17:31:00] | cochi: | not to talk of full tv functions nor dual tuners ;) |
| [17:32:00] | fun: | ive got 2 pvr-500 cards – 2 of the 4 tuners dont work. im trying to first find out if one of the cards doesnt work or if the second input on both cards isnt working |
| [17:33:00] | fun: | but youre saying you havent gotten dual tuners to work? |
| [17:34:00] | directhex|work: | i use 2 cards |
| [17:35:00] | fun: | by dual tuners i meant the 2 tuners on one pvr-500 card |
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| [17:41:00] | cochi: | mh fun, i got the problem of /dev/video0 not outputting anything, while /dev/video1 does |
| [17:42:00] | cochi: | haven't yet checked how to fix that as i first wanted video1 run well |
| [17:42:00] | cochi: | ergo: yes i havent gotten dual tuners to work yet |
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| [17:44:00] | XAD|off: | fun, which one works (/dev/video?) |
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| [17:44:00] | fun: | what have you done to improve the video quality? mines not horrible, but certainly not good |
| [17:45:00] | fun: | XAD: ive got 2 pvr-500s. tuners 1 and 2 work, 3 and 4 dont |
| [17:46:00] | cochi: | mine's ok, had nothing to improve yet |
| [17:46:00] | fun: | 3 shows a black screen and has no audio, 4 plays for about 2 seconds and then freezes and exits back to the main menu |
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| [17:46:00] | XAD|onoff: | you mean video0 and 1 works, video2 and 3 dont... right?? |
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| [17:47:00] | fun: | yes, thats what i meant |
| [17:48:00] | XAD|onoff: | so you got one card working then... |
| [17:48:00] | fun: | dev/video0 corresponds to tuner0 in mythfrontend, right? |
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| [17:48:00] | fun: | i either have one card working, or one tuner one each card working, im not sure how to tell... |
| [17:49:00] | cochi: | pull one out ;) |
| [17:49:00] | cochi: | still two => out-card. one => tuner. zero => in-card |
| [17:49:00] | fun: | i tried that – even if i only have one cable hooked up tuners 0 and 1 both work |
| [17:49:00] | cochi: | wasnt one of the connectors radio? ;) |
| [17:49:00] | cochi: | and both worked with whatever card of the two? |
| [17:49:00] | fun: | that would explain quite a bit |
| [17:50:00] | fun: | hah, so one of the coax hookups is an fm tuner? |
| [17:51:00] | cochi: | well at least with my version it seems so |
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| [17:51:00] | fun: | wow – well then yes, i have both tuners on one of the cards working |
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| [17:51:00] | XAD|onoff: | fun, yes... |
| [17:52:00] | XAD|onoff: | do you have PAL or NTSC? |
| [17:52:00] | fun: | cochi: do you want to see any of my conf files to try to get both of yours working? |
| [17:52:00] | fun: | XAD|onoff: NTSC |
| [17:52:00] | cochi: | that'd be nice. although the machine's currently down. i'll have to compare then later |
| [17:52:00] | cochi: | perhaps you could mail the stuff? |
| [17:53:00] | cochi: | cochi@web.de that'd be |
| [17:53:00] | fun: | i followed the instructions here: http://www.bitbenderforums.com/~ralpha6/knopp . . . ppmythtv.htm |
| [17:53:00] | fun: | ill mail the conf files also |
| [17:53:00] | cochi: | superb. thanks :) |
| [17:54:00] | fun: | ok, so now my problem seems to be with the one card. the first tuner on it shows a black screen (i read that this could be an ivtv thing, where the input is set to svideo or composite, but havent had any luck fixing it) |
| [17:55:00] | fun: | and the second tuner plays for 2 seconds, freezes, and exits to the menu |
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| [17:55:00] | fun: | here is the output when the second tuner freezes: http://pastebin.com/328406 |
| [17:56:00] | fun: | i think it may be an audio thing? something about prebuffering and bad sockets – but i really dont know... |
| [17:56:00] | cochi: | that really looks like a driver issue somehow |
| [17:56:00] | cochi: | well it could prebuffer video, too |
| [17:57:00] | fun: | its set up exactly as the first card – i assume it uses the same driver, no? |
| [17:57:00] | cochi: | just a strange idea... |
| [17:57:00] | cochi: | exchange the cards in their slots |
| [17:57:00] | cochi: | if the problem stays on the later devices, it's driver. else card |
| [17:58:00] | cochi: | and if it's cards, try RMA ;) |
| [17:58:00] | fun: | ill give that a shot now... let you know how it went when im done.. |
| [17:58:00] | fun: | thanks for the help |
| [17:58:00] | cochi: | no prob. just guessing so far ;) |
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| [18:07:00] | Beirdo: | try RMA *after* trying it in Windows |
| [18:08:00] | laga: | hey beerdo |
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| [18:08:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [18:08:00] | Beirdo: | ugh |
| [18:10:00] | xris: | Beirdo: so what do you think of my xml format? http://cooktools.forevermore.net/test |
| [18:10:00] | laga: | freudian slip..i read cocktails instead of cocktools |
| [18:10:00] | xris: | laga: again, too. |
| [18:10:00] | xris: | it's not about sex toys. |
| [18:10:00] | Beirdo: | looks good, xris |
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| [18:11:00] | Beirdo: | although it's copyright you, not the site (nitpick) |
| [18:11:00] | xris: | need to add description and a couple other things, too |
| [18:11:00] | xris: | default if no company name is defined is to use the domain name |
| [18:11:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:12:00] | Beirdo: | well, to be an enforcable copyright, it must be a legal entity :) |
| [18:12:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:12:00] | fun: | maybe add steps to instructions – in case theyre longer |
| [18:12:00] | Beirdo: | looking good though |
| [18:13:00] | Discipulus: | Anyone in here ever driven a Saab? |
| [18:13:00] | Beirdo: | WTF? |
| [18:13:00] | Discipulus: | er, a Saab 9000 turbo ? |
| [18:13:00] | Beirdo: | again... WTF? |
| [18:13:00] | Discipulus: | oh, we were talking about cars in here one day |
| [18:13:00] | Discipulus: | is there a rpoblem with talking about cars? |
| [18:13:00] | Discipulus: | problem* |
| [18:13:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:14:00] | Beirdo: | not like we are talingk about anything important. |
| [18:14:00] | Beirdo: | jeez, I can't even type today |
| [18:14:00] | Beirdo: | I should just give up while I'm behind |
| [18:14:00] | xris: | fun: instructions are wiki text — you can put in steps if you want. most recipes I deal with are professional type, with paragraphs written out. |
| [18:14:00] | Discipulus: | Wel, has anyone ever driven a 9000 Turbo? |
| [18:16:00] | Beirdo: | I need food |
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| [18:19:00] | fun: | alright – i switched the cards and rebooted. now 0 and 2 work, 1 has video with no sound, and 3 has the same play for 2 seconds then freeze problem |
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| [18:21:00] | fun: | at least i have video on all 4 now – anyone know what to do about the freezing and returning to the menu? |
| [18:21:00] | xris: | fun: and btw, the actual recipe format is the raw text you see — xml is generated from that, not the other way around. |
| [18:22:00] | fun: | xris: cool. hows the mustard by the way? have you tried it? |
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| [18:23:00] | xris: | fun: yeah, it's one of the best I've tasted — commercial or otherwise. |
| [18:24:00] | xris: | man, I forgot how much a good tripod costs |
| [18:24:00] | Mrgoose: | xris: what you using for tvout? |
| [18:25:00] | xris: | Mrgoose: pundit onboard video |
| [18:25:00] | Mrgoose: | what motherboard? |
| [18:25:00] | xris: | pundit |
| [18:25:00] | xris: | asus pundit |
| [18:25:00] | xris: | (not r) |
| [18:26:00] | xris: | it's a platform — mobo + case |
| [18:26:00] | Mrgoose: | http://www.bestbargainpc.com/index.asp?PageAc . . . ;ProdID=2926 |
| [18:26:00] | Mrgoose: | im gonna try that |
| [18:27:00] | xris: | should work fine |
| [18:29:00] | Mrgoose: | word |
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| [18:30:00] | Equilibre: | Folks. |
| [18:31:00] | Equilibre: | xris, I'm told you've got 'insight' into patching MythWeb to do nvuexport.pl on recorded programs? |
| [18:31:00] | Chutt: | gotta go where the people are |
| [18:31:00] | Equilibre: | Indeed. |
| [18:32:00] | xris: | Equilibre: could do it, but haven't done it since neither program is ready yet. |
| [18:32:00] | Equilibre: | MythWeb and nvuexport.pl? |
| [18:32:00] | xris: | there is no nuvexport.pl, just nuvexport.. but yes. |
| [18:32:00] | Equilibre: | I've been looking at adding the patch, what's not ready and how, if you don't mind me asking? |
| [18:32:00] | Equilibre: | Pardon, you're right it's not a perl script. |
| [18:33:00] | xris: | yes, it *is* a perl script.. it's just not .pl suffix. |
| [18:33:00] | Equilibre: | Ah :) |
| [18:33:00] | xris: | neither is yet ready for integration yet — mythweb needs some serious redesigning of the recording details page, and nuvexport needs me to start/finish its client/server mode. |
| [18:33:00] | Equilibre: | Oh I see |
| [18:34:00] | Equilibre: | for folks running separate front/back end machines? |
| [18:35:00] | xris: | no, for people who don't like interacting with it directly. |
| [18:36:00] | xris: | it'll someday get hooked into the job queue, etc... but for now, there are just too many things that can go wrong and no way to track them if you just launch it from mythweb. |
| [18:37:00] | xris: | personally, I just open a screen session, and run something like: nuvexport --transcode --require_cutlist --mode=xvid --title Stargate |
| [18:39:00] | Equilibre: | Hrrm |
| [18:42:00] | xris: | automatically encodes all "stargate" shows with a cutlist according to my nuvexportrc settings. |
| [18:42:00] | Equilibre: | My end goal is to provide something that can be run from the web UI |
| [18:42:00] | Equilibre: | Because there are end users that I'd eventually like to give point and shoot access to AVI encoding |
| [18:43:00] | Equilibre: | But in the interim, "Ask me to do it" works I guess :) |
| [18:43:00] | Beirdo: | Equilibre: that would be... ummm... illegal |
| [18:43:00] | Beirdo: | in most places |
| [18:43:00] | Beirdo: | you have no rebroadcast rights |
| [18:44:00] | Equilibre: | Ah, I see, and the difference between a friend dropping by my house to put a tape in my VCR is? |
| [18:44:00] | Beirdo: | the *personal* part of the term personal video recorder (PVR) is the only reason we can do what we do |
| [18:44:00] | Equilibre: | Ok, pardon. I shant mention such a thing here again. |
| [18:44:00] | Beirdo: | gotta be careful :) |
| [18:44:00] | Equilibre: | Sure. |
| [18:45:00] | Beirdo: | there could be oinking federal employees or worse.. MPAA dweebs... around |
| [18:45:00] | Equilibre: | Point well taken sir. Thanks. |
| [18:45:00] | Beirdo: | now, to be able to reencode on the fly for yourself... that's another issue altogether, now isn't it? :) |
| [18:46:00] | Beirdo: | hehe :) |
| [18:46:00] | Equilibre: | Indeed :) |
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| [18:54:00] | Equilibre: | xris, So, though I'm not a huge fan of PHP, I know my way around in it. Are there any tasks anyone else can handle on the way towards getting the rewrite done? |
| [18:54:00] | Equilibre: | I'd love to contribute to the Myth project as a whole but am not much of a C hork hork fan. Qt is almost but not quite nice enough to make up for it :) |
| [18:55:00] | cochi: | php? rewrite? |
| [18:55:00] | ** cochi wakes up ** | |
| [18:55:00] | xris: | not really. |
| [18:55:00] | xris: | I'm working on redoing some of how I organize php programs, and until I get that done, I'm not going to make any major changes to mythweb |
| [18:56:00] | cochi: | ah so you're the one to blame if mythweb goes mad ;)) |
| [18:56:00] | cochi: | nice work btw ;) |
| [18:56:00] | Equilibre: | That's... unfortunate. Ok. thanks! |
| [18:57:00] | xris: | Equilibre: sorry.. just too many things to do for now... |
| [18:58:00] | Equilibre: | Totally understandable. |
| [18:58:00] | xris: | although if you wanted to hook up the keyword-search options, or rewrite the music or video portions of mythweb so they didn't suck (patches I shouldn't have accepted in that condition), I'd be happy to take them |
| [18:59:00] | Equilibre: | heh. I'll take a look at them, thanks. |
| [19:00:00] | xris: | (keyword search meaning record-by-keyword) |
| [19:00:00] | xris: | just been too busy working on this cooking script... |
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| [19:01:00] | kormoc: | Equilibre, the myth video really needs a rewrite, and it's a *cough*fun*cough* section to deal with. :P |
| [19:02:00] | rtsai: | kormoc: are you talking about myth video on the web, or MythVideo? |
| [19:04:00] | Equilibre: | xris, Cooking script? :) An automted cheef? |
| [19:04:00] | laga: | Equilibre: heh. i'm listening to a band called 'equilibrium' right now ;) |
| [19:04:00] | ** Equilibre envisions this crazed robotic chef running around the room thundering "BORK BORK BORK BORK!" and flinging things up to the ceiling :) ** | |
| [19:04:00] | Equilibre: | cool. |
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| [19:05:00] | xris: | http://cooktools.forevermore.net/test |
| [19:05:00] | kormoc: | rtsai, mythvideo 'section' of mythweb |
| [19:05:00] | Krazylegz: | Bork bork bork!!! |
| [19:05:00] | xris: | I'm using it as a chance to set up a new framework for my php stuff... |
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| [19:06:00] | Equilibre: | Gotcha. |
| [19:06:00] | Equilibre: | That mustard recipe looks good :) |
| [19:08:00] | xris: | it is. |
| [19:08:00] | laga: | i'm going to try the beer butt chicken very soon. |
| [19:08:00] | xris: | and once I get that stuff done, I'll start bugging the mythrecipe folks again to get that hooked up. |
| [19:08:00] | laga: | yummy. with fresh french fries |
| [19:09:00] | cochi: | frameworks for php... getting interesting ;) |
| [19:09:00] | kormoc: | Equilibre, it is very good mustard for sausage stuff imho :) |
| [19:09:00] | laga: | would be cool if it had some kind of dictionary. like automagically translating mustard into 'senf' (german) |
| [19:09:00] | Beirdo: | mmm. sausage |
| [19:09:00] | laga: | mmm, beer |
| [19:09:00] | kormoc: | laga, you're gonna shove a beer can up a chicken butt and bake? |
| [19:09:00] | laga: | kormoc: yep |
| [19:10:00] | Equilibre: | Lord knows PHP needs a framework :p Actually I've been very impressed at what people have been doing with it of late. I'm just still terribly disappointed that its designers opted for a whole, new, entirely arbitrary syntax for their language. |
| [19:10:00] | kormoc: | laga, good lord man, that's not food, that's a food like bomb! |
| [19:10:00] | laga: | kormoc: if it isn't bad for me (i consume my beer throu my mouth, though9, it an't be bad for the chicken, right? |
| [19:10:00] | laga: | kormoc: umm, is this good or bad? ;) |
| [19:10:00] | kormoc: | depends on what you're going for :P |
| [19:10:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: I think you OPEN the can of beer |
| [19:10:00] | laga: | Beirdo is da man. |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | otherwise it would be beer can shrapnel chicken |
| [19:11:00] | kormoc: | oh, of course, no chicken terristical bombing for you. |
| [19:11:00] | laga: | mm, shrapnels |
| [19:11:00] | laga: | sorry, i play too much enemy territory |
| [19:12:00] | laga: | 'you're near the chicken' |
| [19:12:00] | laga: | 'dynamite planted' |
| [19:12:00] | ** laga snickers ** | |
| [19:13:00] | Equilibre: | kormoc, Mmm :) I very fondly remember mustard like that they used to make at a deli here that no longer exists. That stuff on corned beef w/rye was heaven :) |
| [19:13:00] | ** Beirdo runs past laga with the flamethrower blasting ** | |
| [19:13:00] | ** laga feels crispy ** | |
| [19:13:00] | Equilibre: | Pity delis never survive on this side of the river. Most odd. |
| [19:14:00] | Equilibre: | Good ones, anyway :) |
| [19:14:00] | laga: | Beirdo: today, i got blown up by three land mines in a row. after that, i killed two of my team mates. 'xxx has called a vote: kick laga' |
| [19:14:00] | laga: | Beirdo: today isn't my day ;) |
| [19:14:00] | Beirdo: | hahah |
| [19:15:00] | laga: | Beirdo: BTW. my team planted the land mines. |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | I used to always shoot my teammates |
| [19:15:00] | Equilibre: | laga, Playing what? |
| [19:15:00] | laga: | Equilibre: enemy territory |
| [19:15:00] | laga: | Beirdo: yep, it happens. |
| [19:15:00] | Equilibre: | Ah, great game. |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | hey, they walked into my line of constant fire |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | not my fault |
| [19:15:00] | laga: | Beirdo: especially after switching to ther other team |
| [19:15:00] | laga: | Beirdo: ah, you're one of the mg-42 guys ;) |
| [19:15:00] | ** Equilibre has been playing _Gods of War_ a lot lately. ** | |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | I don't care what team you are on, you walk in front of my stream of bullets, you die |
| [19:16:00] | ** laga runs linux, so he doesn't play a lot ** | |
| [19:16:00] | laga: | but ET is a really nice game |
| [19:16:00] | laga: | 'complaint filed against beirdo, he has lost experience points' |
| [19:16:00] | laga: | :> |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | you walk in front of a firing weapon, you deserve to get hit |
| [19:17:00] | laga: | we could do some #mythtv-users gaming on my dedicated server, should be fun |
| [19:17:00] | Fosten: | anybody know how to get sound working with the pvr-500? |
| [19:17:00] | Beirdo: | and if you fire at me, I will empty my gun into you :) |
| [19:17:00] | stoffel_: | laga: -users vs. -dev ;) |
| [19:17:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:17:00] | laga: | Beirdo: and do lots of v-2–2 ;) |
| [19:17:00] | laga: | stoffel_: sounds like fun |
| [19:17:00] | laga: | stoffel_: #mythtv-de are spectators. especially oschni. :> |
| [19:18:00] | stoffel_: | hehe |
| [19:18:00] | laga: | 'chutt was teamkilled by laga with a panzerfaust' |
| [19:18:00] | Beirdo: | I haven't played ET forever |
| [19:18:00] | Beirdo: | I so sucked at it |
| [19:18:00] | laga: | "no more releases for the bloody krauts!!" |
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| [19:18:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [19:18:00] | laga: | Beirdo: i do, too. but it doesn't matter. |
| [19:18:00] | Beirdo: | but flamethrowers were always fun |
| [19:18:00] | jvs: | abend :) |
| [19:18:00] | laga: | nowed jvs. wrong language ;) |
| [19:19:00] | jvs: | oh, good evening |
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| [19:26:00] | kormoc: | laga, there's a linux native port of ET you know :P |
| [19:27:00] | laga: | kormoc: i know. that's why i'm playing it. |
| [19:27:00] | kormoc: | ooh, cause up there you said you don't play much cause you run linux and I was a tad confused :P |
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| [19:29:00] | laga: | kormoc: heh |
| [19:29:00] | laga: | kormoc: only two hours/day |
| [19:29:00] | laga: | ;) |
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| [19:39:00] | darkfire_: | heya guys. |
| [19:40:00] | darkfire_: | i had a general question about video compression and DVDs, specifically, i have 20 miniDV tapes that i would like to put on one (probably dual-layered) DVD, and i take it i will have to drop them to extremely low quality to get them to fit (which is acceptable) |
| [19:41:00] | darkfire_: | my question is, how? |
| [19:41:00] | darkfire_: | it's about 20 hours of footage |
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| [19:56:00] | Mrgoose: | any difference between the mx4000 and mx440 |
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| [19:58:00] | directhex: | who's the main developer of mythmusic? |
| [19:59:00] | charlesv: | darkfire: movies ripped to xvid generally look OK at 700megs for a two hour film. so, 350 megs an hour, that means on dual layer 9GB dvd you should be able to fit about 25hours |
| [19:59:00] | charlesv: | and have it come out looking OK |
| [20:00:00] | charlesv: | however, i don't know if you can convert them to an mpeg-2 format that would playback on DVD players if that's what you're asking about |
| [20:00:00] | mchou: | charlesv: you ever go to Frys? |
| [20:00:00] | charlesv: | mchou: haha nope |
| [20:01:00] | mchou: | ya lazy bastard :) |
| [20:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | directhex: I'm not sure if there is a specific person for mythmusic other than Isaac. At least all of the current active tickets in trac are assigned to him :) |
| [20:01:00] | charlesv: | hee |
| [20:01:00] | charlesv: | well I got a call for a job interview |
| [20:01:00] | charlesv: | been prepping for that |
| [20:01:00] | charlesv: | if i get the job, i'll buy some real HD tuners and build that machine |
| [20:01:00] | mchou: | charlesv: cool. good luck |
| [20:01:00] | charlesv: | thanks! |
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| [20:03:00] | mchou: | man, cool & quiet is fantastic! |
| [20:04:00] | tobo: | is there a plugin to make xine use lacproc to display the currently playing title? |
| [20:04:00] | tobo: | lcdproc even |
| [20:04:00] | mchou: | A desktop that acts like a laptop :) |
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| [20:06:00] | darkfire_: | charlesv, sorry i got pulled away at work |
| [20:07:00] | Mrgoose: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150055R , would that work? |
| [20:07:00] | darkfire_: | charlesv, ideally, i'd like this to play in a DVD player, so I was wondering if i could use low quality mpeg2 or something like that |
| [20:08:00] | mchou: | Mrgoose: most likely |
| [20:08:00] | directhex: | actually, call me dense, but how does one make mythmusic burn a cd? it's configured & all, but i see nothing in the actual frontend to DO it |
| [20:09:00] | directhex: | it's one thing being pleased with my glorious ide-cd trickery, but i need to test it really |
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| [20:09:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v stoffel | |
| [20:09:00] | Chutt: | create a playlist, hit menu on the playlist |
| [20:09:00] | Chutt: | it's not a terribly good interface |
| [20:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythmusic will burn the playlist to a CD? Cool. I didn't know that :) |
| [20:10:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: only mp3 cds. |
| [20:10:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: audio cd support is just a placeholder in the code |
| [20:10:00] | Chutt: | the original patch i was working from had the audio cd stuff |
| [20:10:00] | Chutt: | but it sucked |
| [20:10:00] | laga: | heh |
| [20:10:00] | Chutt: | and i never got around to fixing it as i did for the mp3 cd stuff |
| [20:10:00] | laga: | the mp3 cd stuff is hackish, imho |
| [20:11:00] | Chutt: | of course |
| [20:11:00] | Chutt: | it was much, much worse before, though |
| [20:11:00] | laga: | Chutt: trust me, you really don't want to see what i did to it. i wanted to use it for copying files to my mp3 player (just another directory) |
| [20:11:00] | Chutt: | hehe |
| [20:11:00] | laga: | i have to admit, that i made good progress, taking into account that i don't know c/c++. |
| [20:12:00] | ** laga failed at the sorting numbers stuff in computer science class ;) ** | |
| [20:12:00] | xris: | I wish that the jinzora folks would get off their a$$es and fix it so that I can integrate it into mythweb |
| [20:12:00] | laga: | xris: what's jinzora? |
| [20:12:00] | xris: | marged with netjuke awhile back. |
| [20:12:00] | xris: | web-based mp3 player/organizer/streamer |
| [20:13:00] | xris: | it *looks* cool.. but only works ok. |
| [20:13:00] | rjune: | Ooo that could be cool |
| [20:13:00] | charlesv: | darkfox i'm not sure |
| [20:13:00] | xris: | want something that |
| [20:13:00] | charlesv: | i think most dvd players expect a certain range of bitrates |
| [20:13:00] | xris: | that'll integrate nicely with mythweb, but allow control of mfd |
| [20:13:00] | charlesv: | my best advice would be to encode a small portion at the bitrate you'd need and see if it plays |
| [20:13:00] | directhex: | hm, no audio cd support yet? |
| [20:13:00] | directhex: | still can't find it, i'll poke that later |
| [20:13:00] | xris: | charlesv: there's a very specific dvd spec... vcdhelp.com has the info |
| [20:13:00] | Chutt: | not unless someone wants to finish it |
| [20:14:00] | directhex: | i don't like c++ though :/ |
| [20:14:00] | darkfire_: | xris, i've been looking a lot at that site, so, if i lower the bitrate to fit more on a DVD, it's a guarantee that DVD players will choke? |
| [20:14:00] | charlesv: | xris: i know there's a max bitrate but is there a lower floor? |
| [20:20:00] | bjohnson: | where the heck is Beirdo |
| [20:20:00] | bjohnson: | he's gonna miss on the TO cigar dinner boat cruise tickets |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | I'm right here |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | And I'm giving up cigars... |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | woman > cigar |
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| [20:21:00] | laga: | the evil that woman do... |
| [20:21:00] | ** laga sips some wine ** | |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [20:21:00] | kgbudz: | how do i clean my mythtv recorded shows db |
| [20:22:00] | kgbudz: | i just disconnected a few slaves |
| [20:22:00] | kgbudz: | so i have entries with no actual files |
| [20:22:00] | bjohnson: | poor bastard |
| [20:22:00] | kgbudz: | also, how do i post to the mythtv-list users |
| [20:22:00] | Beirdo: | GAH |
| [20:23:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, good cigar > woman > bad cigar :P |
| [20:23:00] | ** Beirdo runs away before a whole pail of trout flies at kgbudz ** | |
| [20:23:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: nope. |
| [20:23:00] | Beirdo: | woman > any cigar |
| [20:23:00] | kormoc: | depends on the worman |
| [20:23:00] | laga: | monca lewinsky, get outta my head |
| [20:23:00] | laga: | monica* |
| [20:24:00] | kormoc: | mystical sane woman > good cigar > insane normal woman > bad cigar |
| [20:24:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: hehe, OK, that works for you |
| [20:25:00] | kgbudz: | anyone? |
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| [20:30:00] | sphing: | anyone help with lirc |
| [20:30:00] | laga: | sphing: ask a question, please |
| [20:30:00] | sphing: | well nothing happens. |
| [20:31:00] | sphing: | lircd is running with -n so i see the clients connect... but irw spits nothing |
| [20:31:00] | sphing: | i'm on an xbox |
| [20:31:00] | laga: | sorry, dunno anything about the xbox |
| [20:32:00] | sphing: | from what i understand lirc handles the xbox remote just like any other |
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| [20:39:00] | sphing: | anyone got an xbox running myth? |
| [20:39:00] | laga: | tried xbox-mythtv.org ? |
| [20:40:00] | sphing: | ? |
| [20:41:00] | laga: | http://xbox-mythtv.org |
| [20:41:00] | laga: | or something like that |
| [20:41:00] | sphing: | theres xbox-linux.org |
| [20:42:00] | laga: | well, there's a site (phpBB) dedicated to running mythtv on the xbox. |
| [20:42:00] | sphing: | the phython script one? |
| [20:43:00] | darkfire_: | does anyone know if a dvd player can play a mpeg2 with a lowered bitrate? |
| [20:43:00] | laga: | sphing: no. |
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| [20:43:00] | laga: | sphing: i'm not talking about xbmc. |
| [20:43:00] | sphing: | ok i'll search |
| [20:48:00] | Beirdo: | darkfire_: stop asking dumb questions and use google |
| [20:49:00] | laga: | and have some wine. |
| [20:49:00] | Beirdo: | or just try it |
| [20:50:00] | darkfire_: | Beirdo, i'm sorry if the question seems dumb. i have searched google and found many things that specify a maximum bitrate for DVDs, but no mention of if there is a minumum bitrate that the standard allows. If you have any suggestions for a good google phrase or a link to a good howto i would be very appreciative. |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | look for the DVD spec |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | it's out there somewhere |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | failing that, try it and see |
| [20:50:00] | sphing: | hey Beirdo can your bot search google? |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | it logs |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | that's all it does |
| [20:51:00] | laga: | and it takes like 100mb of ram |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | Oh, and eats memory. stupid Java |
| [20:51:00] | sphing: | lol |
| [20:51:00] | laga: | heh |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | and this... |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | MythLogBot: help |
| [20:51:00] | jams: | google searchs the bot |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | that's it |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, google has the logs though |
| [20:52:00] | sphing: | ... why not switch bots to a non-java one? |
| [20:52:00] | Beirdo: | I intend to replace it with a trim C bot some decade that does exactly what I want |
| [20:52:00] | Beirdo: | but that requires time and energy |
| [20:52:00] | Beirdo: | neither of which do I have right now |
| [20:52:00] | sphing: | ah |
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| [20:56:00] | QBob: | I transcoded a stream that was already transcoded to mpeg-4 in order to delete the commercials — how can I tell if it really only re-encoded a few frames around the skip points? |
| [20:56:00] | QBob: | do I have to make some special settings in order to do that? |
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| [21:09:00] | xris: | QBob: if you're going mpeg4->mpeg4, then it shouldn't actually reencode. |
| [21:10:00] | xris: | but there's no real way to check other than the see how long it takes |
| [21:10:00] | QBob: | I guess it took a little less time than otherwise |
| [21:11:00] | QBob: | should it be almost instantaneous? |
| [21:14:00] | directhex: | hm, wonder if myth compiles with icc |
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| [21:15:00] | fun: | whats the best way to stop mythbackend? |
| [21:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | I would be suprised if there were no problems, but they might just be minor |
| [21:15:00] | fourcheeze: | pull the plug |
| [21:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | fun I just send a kill to the process |
| [21:16:00] | fourcheeze: | that'll stop it |
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| [21:16:00] | fourcheeze: | ;-) |
| [21:16:00] | fun: | "kill mythbackend"? |
| [21:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | kill PID |
| [21:16:00] | kormoc: | how did you start it? |
| [21:17:00] | directhex: | /etc/init.d/mythbackend stop |
| [21:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | This is what I use to start and stop it : http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/rc.mythtv |
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| [21:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | directhex: That assumes one has that script :) |
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| [21:17:00] | directhex: | well if they don't, they damn well should ahve ;) |
| [21:17:00] | kormoc: | directhex, depends on the distro :P |
| [21:18:00] | directhex: | kormoc, same definitely applies :P |
| [21:18:00] | directhex: | anyway, dinnertime |
| [21:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | well, I have a /etc/rc.d/rc.mythtv, so it's similar in theory :) |
| [21:18:00] | fun: | i actually dont know where i start – ive forgotten, looking for it now |
| [21:19:00] | fourcheeze: | fun: do you have anything |
| [21:19:00] | fourcheeze: | in /etc/init.d |
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| [21:19:00] | fourcheeze: | fun: which disto for a start |
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| [21:19:00] | fun: | fc3; and yes, i have lots in /etc/init.d |
| [21:20:00] | fourcheeze: | did you build myth or isntall packages? |
| [21:21:00] | fun: | packages, but i remember haveing a problem setting /sbin/chkconfig mythbackend on |
| [21:21:00] | fun: | so im pretty sure i start it up in a script somewhere |
| [21:21:00] | fourcheeze: | well if you have a mythbackend in /etc/init.d |
| [21:22:00] | fourcheeze: | you could try /etc/init.d/mythbackend stop |
| [21:22:00] | fun: | would that do the same thing as restarting? |
| [21:23:00] | fourcheeze: | it would if you did a start after |
| [21:23:00] | fun: | i need it to not save its state |
| [21:23:00] | fourcheeze: | dunno about that |
| [21:25:00] | fun: | my video is freezing after 2 seconds – in one of the old logs from this room someone had the same problem and restarting didnt fix it, but "rebooting puts it into the same state it's in, while restarting just the process seems to fix it" |
| [21:25:00] | fun: | will /etc/init.d/mythbackend stop restart just the process? |
| [21:25:00] | cochi: | ah fun. back again? made progress? |
| [21:26:00] | fun: | a bit – all 4 tuners work – checked using cat |
| [21:26:00] | kormoc: | fun, /etc/init.d/mythbackend stop will stop the process |
| [21:26:00] | fun: | now ive got 3 working with mythtv, trying to get the last to stop freezing on me |
| [21:26:00] | kormoc: | fun, /etx/init.d/mythbackend restart will restart the process |
| [21:26:00] | fun: | ok – thanks – trying it now... |
| [21:27:00] | Baylink: | Oh, and "fun" is a pretty confusing nick. :-) |
| [21:27:00] | Chutt: | baylink, wiki? :p |
| [21:27:00] | cochi: | ah :) mhh mind sending me the config? |
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| [21:27:00] | cochi: | not got anything yet ;) |
| [21:28:00] | fun: | yep – ill put it on pastebin right now |
| [21:28:00] | cochi: | cool :) |
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| [21:29:00] | fun: | the /etx/init.d/mythbackend restart fixed the video freezing problem – thanks alot |
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| [21:30:00] | directhex: | i can actually apt-get build-dep mythmusic? considering my horrible mess of stable & unstable, that makes a change :po |
| [21:30:00] | directhex: | *:o |
| [21:31:00] | fun: | cochi: http://pastebin.com/328626 |
| [21:31:00] | cochi: | oh that's simplistic |
| [21:32:00] | cochi: | thanks anyway :) |
| [21:32:00] | fun: | is there anything else i should put in there? |
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| [21:33:00] | cochi: | well some i2c stuff or so |
| [21:33:00] | fun: | have you tried using cat+mplayer to test the tuner? i thought mine werent working but it was myth problems the whole time |
| [21:33:00] | cochi: | don't have the machine at hand, girlfriend's playing around with it |
| [21:33:00] | fun: | whats the i2c stuff do? |
| [21:35:00] | cochi: | dont ask me. copy/paste is your friend ;))) |
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| [21:36:00] | fun: | hah – thats how i got into so much trouble – now i dont know what i do where |
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| [21:46:00] | Baylink: | Hey, Chutt. Yeah; I gotta tickle $MOVED_GUY again this week. RIght after that last burst of conversation... my (boss's) borrowed van got broken into, and my best friend's laptop stolen off the back seat. :-} |
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| [21:51:00] | Chutt: | baylink, i'd just like to get that live |
| [21:51:00] | Chutt: | so other people can start using it |
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| [21:51:00] | Chutt: | etc |
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| [21:51:00] | Chutt: | if it makes things faster, i'd be happy to switch to moin |
| [21:51:00] | Chutt: | don't care much at this point |
| [21:53:00] | ** Beirdo shudders at the thought of moin ** | |
| [21:53:00] | Chutt: | hey, if these people can't convert shit over |
| [21:53:00] | Chutt: | that's what it'll have to be :p |
| [21:53:00] | Chutt: | unless someone wants to finish the conversion script |
| [21:53:00] | Beirdo: | sounds that way |
| [21:53:00] | directhex: | what's the preferred way to actually contribute to mythtv? |
| [21:53:00] | ** laga likes mediawiki better ** | |
| [21:54:00] | laga: | especially because mythwiki.de runs on mediawiki ;) |
| [21:54:00] | Chutt: | laga, that's what's running on wiki.mythtv.org |
| [21:54:00] | Beirdo: | laga: you wanna help Baylink get the convertor done? |
| [21:54:00] | Chutt: | directhex, work on something you'd like, submit a patch |
| [21:54:00] | Chutt: | fix bugs if you can't think of anything you'd really want to work on |
| [21:54:00] | Chutt: | write docs if you can't code |
| [21:54:00] | directhex: | Chutt, submit *where*? |
| [21:54:00] | Chutt: | mailing list, or to trac |
| [21:55:00] | laga: | Beirdo: convertor? are you joking? i've been struggling with wget fopr 4 hours today... ;) |
| [21:55:00] | laga: | Beirdo: copy & paste all the way |
| [21:55:00] | Chutt: | or directly to me |
| [21:55:00] | Chutt: | doesn't really matter |
| [21:55:00] | Chutt: | stuff's less likely to get lost in trac, though |
| [21:55:00] | directhex: | i'd like to try & fix some of the annoyances in mythmusic, for starters. the fix for ide cd burning, if i'm correct, is painfully simple |
| [21:55:00] | laga: | IMHO, mythtv.info looks like my room. lots of interesting stuff in every corner with a lot of cockroaches |
| [21:56:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:56:00] | Beirdo: | we coulda manually imported it all by now |
| [21:56:00] | Chutt: | might as well, really |
| [21:57:00] | Chutt: | well, i need to upgrade the mediawiki instance on there |
| [21:58:00] | Beirdo: | sure, manual import takes time, but damn, this has been how many months now? |
| [21:58:00] | Chutt: | 6 or so |
| [21:58:00] | Beirdo: | heh. yeah |
| [21:58:00] | Beirdo: | sounds about right |
| [21:58:00] | Beirdo: | I knew it was before I got distracted by a woman, so 6 sounds about right :) |
| [21:58:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:59:00] | Chutt: | directhex, just work from the current sources, see info at cvs.mythtv.org |
| [21:59:00] | directhex: | hm, doing this *properly* is non-trivial. at least it is given my lack of c++ experience. settings should live in the mysql database, right? |
| [21:59:00] | Chutt: | they do |
| [22:00:00] | Chutt: | though from a programming standpoint, it's just those little classes/functions in the settings source files |
| [22:00:00] | directhex: | bleh, wouldn't need to be doing this if jorg schilling didn;t go out of his way to be an asshole |
| [22:00:00] | Chutt: | where they are is completely abstracted away |
| [22:00:00] | Beirdo: | directhex: that he can be... there are others at least as bad |
| [22:01:00] | directhex: | Beirdo, no doubt, but jorg manages to hit a raw nerve with me. |
| [22:01:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:01:00] | Beirdo: | I wish you luck |
| [22:01:00] | Beirdo: | don't deal with Theo... from OpenBSD fame |
| [22:01:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [22:02:00] | directhex: | problem: mythmusic uses "scanbus --cdrecord" to detect cd recorders. jorg designs cdrecord specifically to pretend 2.6 kernels don't exist, so if your cd recorder is a /dev/hd* device, it returns nothing |
| [22:02:00] | kormoc: | directhex, I don't believe that's true |
| [22:03:00] | directhex: | solution: add -dev=/dev/whatever to the cdrecord command, where whatever is the device, and lo and behold, it works |
| [22:03:00] | directhex: | kormoc, read the cdrecord docs, it's full of constant "linux sucks, use solaris" comments, with a particular rant against ide-cd |
| [22:04:00] | laga: | directhex: i like the 'no dma, operations will be slow' stuff ;) |
| [22:04:00] | Beirdo: | jorg is a dick |
| [22:04:00] | Beirdo: | that's a given |
| [22:04:00] | Chutt: | is that like the tabs v spaces rant in the manpage for 'top' that used to be in debian? |
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| [22:04:00] | Beirdo: | hehe, probably |
| [22:04:00] | Beirdo: | I guess I missed that jewel |
| [22:04:00] | kormoc: | directhex, yeah, but that's not to mean that he designed the software as if 2.6.x didn't exist |
| [22:05:00] | directhex: | so, since the cdrecord syntax is hard-coded in mythmusic's globalsettings.cpp, i need to give it the ability to add a -dev= setting |
| [22:05:00] | kormoc: | directhex, he wrote a scsi burning program, so it's actually sorta cool that it has any non scsi burning ability. |
| [22:05:00] | directhex: | kormoc, again, if you read the source, it's full of "2.5 kernels use a completely bad & non-nice & non-solarisy atapi cd recording method for atapiu cd recordsers. it's not solarisy, by the way, so i'll design things to break around it" |
| [22:06:00] | directhex: | hell, the makefiles are purposely mangled to produce garbage with gnu make |
| [22:06:00] | Beirdo: | directhex: he does have some point though |
| [22:06:00] | directhex: | you need to use solaris make, or his own clone, the "schilly makefile system" (smake) |
| [22:06:00] | Beirdo: | the Linux ATA-CD interface is kinda hideous |
| [22:06:00] | kormoc: | indeed |
| [22:06:00] | Beirdo: | be nice if he weren't such a dick about it though |
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| [22:07:00] | directhex: | Beirdo, but head-in-sand isn't an approach to fixing it. therre are stacks of other problems with his apps which are purposely designed to break |
| [22:07:00] | Beirdo: | if he'd work WITH the kernel devs instead of around them, it might get fixed |
| [22:07:00] | directhex: | e.g. mkisofs cannot deal with files over 2gb, in protest at something in the kernel |
| [22:07:00] | Beirdo: | sure it can |
| [22:07:00] | Beirdo: | I've done it before |
| [22:07:00] | directhex: | not IME |
| [22:07:00] | Beirdo: | mind you, that was on Solaris :) |
| [22:07:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [22:07:00] | directhex: | i've tried, constantly. in the end i resorted to mkudffs |
| [22:08:00] | Beirdo: | you need to compile in LFS |
| [22:08:00] | directhex: | and the syntax for that is non-trivial and unpleasant |
| [22:08:00] | Beirdo: | bitch bitch bitch :) |
| [22:08:00] | Beirdo: | to quote Grandpa Simpson |
| [22:08:00] | Chutt: | wouldn't you want to use cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATA |
| [22:08:00] | Chutt: | though, to probe for devices? |
| [22:08:00] | directhex: | anyone not interested in schillix isn't human, that one also annoyed me |
| [22:09:00] | directhex: | Warning: Using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface. |
| [22:09:00] | Beirdo: | so he's a dick, we know that, :) |
| [22:10:00] | directhex: | i just hate solaris with a passion, so a complete dick who's also a solaris addict annoys me intensely, especially when there's really nothing reasonable in the way of competing OSS tools |
| [22:10:00] | Beirdo: | hah! |
| [22:10:00] | Beirdo: | well, you won't get any sympathy from me there |
| [22:10:00] | Beirdo: | Solaris is my living |
| [22:10:00] | directhex: | anyway, Chutt's syntax appears to work, though it still needs some method for working via globalsettings.cpp |
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| [22:11:00] | Beirdo: | go, freenode. |
| [22:11:00] | directhex: | how do you think i develpoed a hatred of solaris? spent 9 months adminning the bloody thing |
| [22:11:00] | Beirdo: | dumbass network. |
| [22:11:00] | directhex: | better than quakenet |
| [22:11:00] | Beirdo: | and YES that was logged for google to see |
| [22:12:00] | directhex: | lilo will boot you off now! |
| [22:12:00] | Beirdo: | I've been doing Solaris admin a sight longer than that. I still like it |
| [22:12:00] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [22:12:00] | Beirdo: | his network split on us, he's gotta expect annoyed people |
| [22:12:00] | Beirdo: | mind you, it does better than most |
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| [22:13:00] | directhex: | as a solaris & redhat admin, what i've learnt is this: i really wish more places ran debian |
| [22:13:00] | Beirdo: | welcome back, splitees |
| [22:13:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [22:13:00] | Beirdo: | building Solaris packages... so much fun |
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| [22:15:00] | fp-: | Hi all |
| [22:15:00] | directhex: | i find myself runnign into brick wals placed by red hat constantly. at least the solaris machine sbroadly didsn't break if you didbn;t touch them. of course, if they DID break, they were an absolute nightmare to coax back intpo working order |
| [22:15:00] | directhex: | in the end we binned them instead of put up with them |
| [22:16:00] | fp-: | would it be possible to write my own module for MythTV that would fetch stats off my web site (such as users online) and display it on a semi-transparent block near the bottom of the TV screen like MythTV shows current channel info? |
| [22:16:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:16:00] | Beirdo: | we have about 100 Solaris servers that require very little TLC |
| [22:17:00] | directhex: | four sf6800's, two v880's, fair of t3 and pair of ls20, and when they were bad, they were very very bad |
| [22:17:00] | Beirdo: | T3.. ack. |
| [22:17:00] | Beirdo: | those can be supreme bitches when they are in a bad mood |
| [22:17:00] | Mrgoose: | whats up Beirdo |
| [22:17:00] | Mrgoose: | i ordered a gf4 mx4000 today |
| [22:17:00] | Beirdo: | not much |
| [22:17:00] | directhex: | yes, the t3 was the final straw, when it trashed all user data instead of rebuilding the array when fed new disks |
| [22:18:00] | Beirdo: | I let someone else deal with the T3s |
| [22:18:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:18:00] | Beirdo: | A1000 is bad enough |
| [22:18:00] | Beirdo: | but the servers are rock solid |
| [22:18:00] | directhex: | actually, the t3's are well behaved compared to our new disk array, an emc clariion ax100 |
| [22:18:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [22:19:00] | Beirdo: | oh no |
| [22:19:00] | directhex: | high-availability disk arrays should NOT run windows xp |
| [22:19:00] | Beirdo: | *choke* |
| [22:19:00] | Beirdo: | you gotta be shitting me |
| [22:19:00] | directhex: | nope. redundant storage processors, running windows xp embedded |
| [22:19:00] | Beirdo: | idiotic |
| [22:19:00] | directhex: | took us 2 days to even get them an IP, due to bugs in the xp network stack |
| [22:20:00] | directhex: | rather than the "run this tool" instructions |
| [22:20:00] | directhex: | oh, and they trashed all user data 3 times, because they were dusty as shipped |
| [22:20:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [22:21:00] | Beirdo: | ship bags of dog shit to the nearest EMC office... |
| [22:21:00] | directhex: | we're taking it up with the vendor (dell) |
| [22:21:00] | Beirdo: | Dude, you're getting a Dell... |
| [22:21:00] | directhex: | infact, we have a meeting tomorrow to discuss things. |
| [22:21:00] | Beirdo: | bring the dog and a pack of paper bags |
| [22:22:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [22:22:00] | Beirdo: | and a lighter |
| [22:22:00] | directhex: | to be fair, the dell hardware has been golden. it's the non-dell hardware, and the software, that have been inadequate |
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| [22:22:00] | directhex: | i really love my dell laptop, it's a sweet little machine, and runs ubuntu like a charm. only minor c hacking required for tvout to work ;) |
| [22:22:00] | Beirdo: | ewww |
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| [22:22:00] | Beirdo: | I hate Dell laptops |
| [22:23:00] | Beirdo: | cheap POS (at least the ones we had at my last employer) |
| [22:23:00] | Beirdo: | every one of them was RMAd within 2 years |
| [22:23:00] | Beirdo: | 15 for 15 |
| [22:23:00] | directhex: | we've only had them about 3 months. one had some issues on arrival, an engineer was out the next morning with replacement parts & fixed it within 20 minutes |
| [22:23:00] | Chutt: | my wife's dell laptop's been fine for a year and a half now |
| [22:24:00] | Beirdo: | well, either they fixed it all or you guys will see what I mean in a few months |
| [22:24:00] | ** laga likes his asus laptop ** | |
| [22:24:00] | Beirdo: | my IBM has needed a new disk, that is all |
| [22:24:00] | directhex: | we'll see. tbh, it's the office's laptop not mine, so i'm not too fussy |
| [22:24:00] | Beirdo: | well, and needs new batteries now |
| [22:24:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:24:00] | directhex: | if it goes down, then i can't play guild wars at the fiancee's place |
| [22:25:00] | Beirdo: | so I bought a used T22 instead for now |
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| [22:25:00] | laga: | IBM laptops are nice. are wonder what they are like now that they've outsourced their laptop business |
| [22:25:00] | directhex: | our previous cluster was ibm, and their customer support was going downhill |
| [22:25:00] | Beirdo: | the A30p is too heavy for travel anyways |
| [22:25:00] | Beirdo: | the T41 at work here is pretty nice |
| [22:25:00] | Beirdo: | but it's still new |
| [22:25:00] | Beirdo: | time will tell |
| [22:26:00] | directhex: | indeed |
| [22:26:00] | Beirdo: | Dell desktops are pretty nice though |
| [22:26:00] | directhex: | i have a dell tft, it's sexy |
| [22:26:00] | Beirdo: | so hopefully they fixed their laptop issues |
| [22:26:00] | directhex: | 1600x1200, 20.1", dvi/vga/composite/svideo |
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| [22:30:00] | Chutt: | i've got that display =) |
| [22:30:00] | Beirdo: | it sounds nice |
| [22:30:00] | Chutt: | been pondering buying another |
| [22:31:00] | Chutt: | or maybe their 24" widescreen |
| [22:31:00] | Beirdo: | but I think I'll save the money for travelling right now |
| [22:31:00] | directhex: | the 2001fp is a sexy, sexy screen. comes highly recommended, especially for the price |
| [22:32:00] | directhex: | paid less than i did on my original 15" iiyama |
| [22:32:00] | kormoc: | I got a 1905FP and I have to say, overall it's really nice |
| [22:32:00] | Chutt: | i'd really like to know if the 2405fpw is the same height |
| [22:32:00] | Beirdo: | hopefully they don't last like 1 year or something, but that's a risk with any new TFT, I guess |
| [22:32:00] | kormoc: | I have a few odd issues with it tho. |
| [22:32:00] | Chutt: | (as the 2001fp) |
| [22:32:00] | Chutt: | because then i could dual-screen em without too much trouble |
| [22:33:00] | kormoc: | in analog mode, I have a dead pixel, in digital mode I have a few off color lines, in dual mode, it looks great. |
| [22:33:00] | Beirdo: | I have one stuck pixel on my A30p. stuck cyan, I think |
| [22:33:00] | Beirdo: | not bad for a almost 5yr-old 15" TFT |
| [22:33:00] | Chutt: | no dead pixels, but the backlight's a tad uneven |
| [22:34:00] | kormoc: | yeah, my 'dead' pixel is totally dead in analog mode, but totally alive in digital/dual. |
| [22:34:00] | Beirdo: | odd |
| [22:34:00] | kormoc: | yeah, it's really odd to swap inputs and watch it light up and go dark |
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| [22:36:00] | BMOC: | xris: you there? |
| [22:36:00] | xris: | sort of |
| [22:37:00] | BMOC: | ok, so if i use nuvexport to dvd mode, where does it put the file i need to use? |
| [22:37:00] | BMOC: | as nuv2disc.sh has issues |
| [22:37:00] | xris: | right where you tell it to |
| [22:37:00] | BMOC: | no i mean |
| [22:37:00] | BMOC: | the files like avout and vidout or whatever |
| [22:37:00] | BMOC: | were of 0 size, but when i cat'ed them, they had binary stuff |
| [22:37:00] | xris: | it doesn't create the dvd structure, just the mpeg |
| [22:38:00] | BMOC: | ok, so i run nuvexport |
| [22:38:00] | xris: | oh, that's not nuvexport. those are fifos from mythtranscode. |
| [22:38:00] | BMOC: | oh |
| [22:38:00] | xris: | nuvexport sends those to ffmpeg or transcode |
| [22:38:00] | xris: | then you get a .mpg file from there. |
| [22:38:00] | BMOC: | well, where am i to look? |
| [22:38:00] | BMOC: | well, i told it use /tmp |
| [22:38:00] | BMOC: | so where would the .mpg be? |
| [22:38:00] | xris: | like I said, look where nuvexport was told |
| [22:38:00] | BMOC: | /tmp/foo.mpg? |
| [22:38:00] | xris: | if that's what you called it, then yes. |
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| [22:39:00] | directhex: | hands up if you have a cd writer, and use foo=ide-scsi to make scsi cd recording work |
| [22:39:00] | BMOC: | no, i don't see where to "call it" only Where would you like to export the files to? [.] |
| [22:39:00] | jams: | nuv2disc doesn't have issues..users have the issues |
| [22:39:00] | xris: | lol |
| [22:39:00] | BMOC: | jams: sure |
| [22:39:00] | xris: | BMOC: did you read nuvexportrc? there's a whole section on the export filename format |
| [22:40:00] | BMOC: | xris: ok, all i saw in ui was where would i like to export files to |
| [22:40:00] | xris: | if nuvexport is successful, you'll find a filename with that format in the directory you told it to put things. |
| [22:40:00] | BMOC: | yeah, i set underscores=yes and what not |
| [22:40:00] | xris: | but you have to let it FINISH first, too. |
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| [22:41:00] | BMOC: | ok, so it's doing it again, |
| [22:41:00] | BMOC: | processed: 130 of 98790 frames (0.13%), 21.67 fps |
| [22:41:00] | BMOC: | ai told it to use /tmp |
| [22:41:00] | BMOC: | ah, i see the mpg it's making |
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| [22:41:00] | BMOC: | so once it is finished, i should be able to stick that .mpg on a dvd? |
| [22:41:00] | Beirdo: | directhex: I use ide-scsi, and like it that way :) |
| [22:42:00] | BMOC: | why do you need scsi emulation for cd burning? |
| [22:42:00] | BMOC: | i don't use it on 2.6.x |
| [22:42:00] | Beirdo: | I use 2.4 kernels on my fileserver. |
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| [22:42:00] | directhex: | Beirdo, can you give me output from cdrecord --scanbus and cdrecord -dev=ATA --scanbus via private message or a paster page or something? |
| [22:43:00] | Beirdo: | and ATAPI is SCSI, basically |
| [22:43:00] | BMOC: | xris: once nuvexport is finished, and the .mpg resides there, i just need a program that can make a dvd out of an .mpg? |
| [22:43:00] | BMOC: | Beirdo: i'm just referring to the emulation thing |
| [22:43:00] | xris: | BMOC: yes |
| [22:43:00] | BMOC: | xris: thanks |
| [22:43:00] | Beirdo: | it's not emulation |
| [22:43:00] | BMOC: | jams: do you make nuv2disc.sh? |
| [22:43:00] | Beirdo: | it's an API |
| [22:43:00] | xris: | or maybe if you're nice to jams he can tell you how to get nuv2disk to work |
| [22:43:00] | BMOC: | well, he replied to a few of my emails, then stopped:) |
| [22:43:00] | jams: | heh |
| [22:43:00] | Beirdo: | directhex: kinda busy right now, but I could later. |
| [22:44:00] | directhex: | sure. it's just harder to track down a 2.4-and-ide-scsi user than you'd think |
| [22:44:00] | BMOC: | jams: ? |
| [22:44:00] | jams: | BMOC john H? |
| [22:44:00] | BMOC: | yessir |
| [22:45:00] | BMOC: | i fixed the font issue |
| [22:45:00] | BMOC: | but there's another issue that came up |
| [22:45:00] | jams: | yeah just got your last email |
| [22:45:00] | BMOC: | oh ok, thx |
| [22:45:00] | Beirdo: | directhex: give me a few minutes. I'm not logged into home right now |
| [22:45:00] | BMOC: | hey Beirdo how far are you from the toronto airport? |
| [22:46:00] | jams: | well after nuvexport finishes move the file to the "mpeg" dir and it should show for you |
| [22:46:00] | BMOC: | well, my problem was that it crapped out |
| [22:46:00] | BMOC: | nuv2disc.sh near the end |
| [22:46:00] | BMOC: | with the error i pasted |
| [22:47:00] | Beirdo: | BMOC: far |
| [22:47:00] | Beirdo: | I'm downtown |
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| [22:47:00] | darkfire_: | Beirdo, i looked at the DVD spec and found nothing mentioning a minumum bitrate, and i'm in the process of transcoding miniDV to a MPEG2 with 506kbps for the video and 160kpbs for the audio, so I'm testing this myself, but do you know if DVD players will be able to play it? I just can't find that info anywhere. |
| [22:48:00] | jams: | BMOC, kinda looks like your version of mjpeg tools is busted |
| [22:48:00] | Beirdo: | dunno |
| [22:48:00] | Beirdo: | just try it |
| [22:48:00] | Beirdo: | each DVD player may deal with it differently |
| [22:48:00] | BMOC: | mjpegtools-1.6.3–10_rc1.rhfc4.at |
| [22:49:00] | darkfire_: | Beirdo, ok, thanks, i just didn't know if anything in the spec addressed that issue |
| [22:49:00] | Beirdo: | well, I think most DVD player manufacturers will cut corners, and different ones |
| [22:49:00] | Beirdo: | low bitrate isn't standard for commercial DVDs so they may or may not support it well |
| [22:50:00] | BMOC: | jams: have you tried qcreatevob? |
| [22:50:00] | laga: | well, if it isn't DVD-complaint, there's no reaso nwhy DVd-players should play it :y< |
| [22:50:00] | jams: | BMOC nope |
| [22:50:00] | BMOC: | jams: so that's a bad version of mjpegtools that i have? |
| [22:50:00] | jams: | BMOC this is the version i'm using mjpegtools-1.6.2–48 |
| [22:50:00] | Beirdo: | laga: even if it is, the players may not fully support the whole spec |
| [22:50:00] | darkfire_: | laga, but does the DVD standard specify a minumum bitrate? i haven't seen one |
| [22:51:00] | laga: | darkfire_: dunno. |
| [22:51:00] | jams: | BMOC it might be that would be the first place to look |
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| [22:54:00] | BMOC: | so you recommend i go back one version? |
| [22:54:00] | BMOC: | jams: do you have some good backgrounds to use? |
| [22:55:00] | jams: | BMOC yes fall back to mjpegtools 1.6.2 google shows 1.6.3 to have problems |
| [22:56:00] | BMOC: | k |
| [22:56:00] | BMOC: | i am doing so now |
| [22:56:00] | jams: | for backgrounds I use my gallery dir |
| [22:56:00] | directhex: | hang on a minute... someone this morning said I should use nuvexport because mythtranscode can't do mpeg2 to mpeg2 at the moment... nuvexport uses mythtranscode to set up the FIFOs -_- |
| [22:56:00] | kormoc: | mpeg2 to raw maybe? then transcode raw into mpeg2? |
| [22:57:00] | laga: | directhex: blame it on me. and nuvexport supports mpeg2 -> mpeg2 |
| [22:57:00] | Beirdo: | directhex: yes, and the fifos have raw video, raw audio |
| [22:58:00] | Beirdo: | which nuvexport passes to ffmpeg or transcode |
| [22:59:00] | directhex: | and when mythtranscode doesn't run? |
| [22:59:00] | BMOC: | jams: i mean, what pictures does it have:) |
| [22:59:00] | BMOC: | where did you get some pictures for it:) |
| [22:59:00] | Gamekiller: | ok i look throw the mail list and now i feel i can ask about this |
| [22:59:00] | jams: | BMOC our digital camera |
| [22:59:00] | Gamekiller: | only some recordeing not all get all mest up |
| [22:59:00] | BMOC: | oh ok |
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| [22:59:00] | k-man_: | morning all |
| [23:00:00] | Gamekiller: | the timer says 7 sec and there is a full show |
| [23:00:00] | jams: | most of the time I just use the default blue swirl as you can't really see the background |
| [23:00:00] | Gamekiller: | but all cut up |
| [23:00:00] | Gamekiller: | i just started to get this |
| [23:00:00] | Gamekiller: | also when i go to look at my recording it take for ever for the preview to come up |
| [23:00:00] | laga: | jams: have you noticed that there is a patch for mythtv that allows dvd burning? |
| [23:00:00] | BMOC: | there is? |
| [23:01:00] | laga: | ticket #158 or #160, dunno |
| [23:01:00] | BMOC: | too bad i use the rpms |
| [23:01:00] | BMOC: | but it should be in those soon, shouldn't it? |
| [23:01:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [23:01:00] | laga: | *probably* in the next release. which will be relased when..it's done. |
| [23:01:00] | kormoc: | depends on where you got the rpms and who made them. |
| [23:01:00] | laga: | make your own rpms *shrug* |
| [23:02:00] | BMOC: | laga: have you used the patch? |
| [23:02:00] | laga: | BMOC: i dont own a dvd burner, sadly |
| [23:02:00] | BMOC: | too bad, they've gotten really cheap |
| [23:02:00] | BMOC: | <$50 in some places |
| [23:02:00] | laga: | i know, but i'm a cheapskat ;) |
| [23:02:00] | laga: | skate* |
| [23:03:00] | BMOC: | the only problem with mine is i can't listen to audio cds in linux |
| [23:03:00] | BMOC: | i wish i had a digital cd player |
| [23:03:00] | jams: | laga, yeah I saw it |
| [23:03:00] | BMOC: | but grip doesn't do that |
| [23:03:00] | BMOC: | jams: have you used it? |
| [23:03:00] | jams: | didn't pay much attention to it |
| [23:03:00] | BMOC: | lk |
| [23:03:00] | BMOC: | laga: where can i see info on it, sir? |
| [23:03:00] | laga: | jams: k. |
| [23:03:00] | BMOC: | jams: so, with the linux tools, you can't do the animated dvd backgrounds? |
| [23:03:00] | laga: | BMOC: cvs.mythtv.org/trac/tickets/158 i think |
| [23:04:00] | jams: | BMOC sure you can |
| [23:04:00] | jams: | I just never got around todo it |
| [23:04:00] | BMOC: | No handler matched request to /tickets/158 |
| [23:04:00] | BMOC: | :) |
| [23:04:00] | Chutt: | bmoc, mythmusic 'plays' cds by ripping them |
| [23:04:00] | BMOC: | oh really? |
| [23:04:00] | laga: | BMOC: cvs.mythtv.org then, ticket number #158 or #160 |
| [23:04:00] | BMOC: | is there a big delay? |
| [23:04:00] | Chutt: | of course |
| [23:05:00] | Chutt: | why would there be a delay? |
| [23:05:00] | k-man_: | i remember seeing a site somewhere that explained how to test if your dvb cards are working before attempting to get myth working |
| [23:05:00] | Chutt: | it's not exactly difficult to rip a cd at 1x |
| [23:05:00] | BMOC: | laga: i meant can i see info on it from the web;) |
| [23:05:00] | directhex: | technically any DAE-based cd player is "ripping" in order to play |
| [23:05:00] | k-man_: | can anyone point me to it? |
| [23:05:00] | Chutt: | directhex, right |
| [23:05:00] | directhex: | k-man_, it involved tzap and a working channels.conf |
| [23:05:00] | kormoc: | BMOC, it's likly not documented, no |
| [23:06:00] | k-man_: | directhex, did it? i don't remember the details |
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| [23:06:00] | BMOC: | k |
| [23:06:00] | BMOC: | thx |
| [23:06:00] | directhex: | http://www.ethics-gradient.net/myth/mythdvb.html |
| [23:07:00] | BMOC: | err, the "play music" thing in front end is strange |
| [23:07:00] | k-man_: | directhex, ah, thanks |
| [23:07:00] | k-man_: | thats it |
| [23:07:00] | BMOC: | well, looks like i won't be compiling mjpegtools 1.6.2:( |
| [23:07:00] | BMOC: | maybe that's just the .src.rpm |
| [23:08:00] | BMOC: | Chutt: to play a cd, you just go to "play music" right? |
| [23:08:00] | BMOC: | err "listen to music" |
| [23:09:00] | Chutt: | yup |
| [23:09:00] | BMOC: | i hit the "p" once there, and the play button lights up, then nothing |
| [23:09:00] | Chutt: | you have to make a playlist. |
| [23:09:00] | Chutt: | hit 3 |
| [23:09:00] | Chutt: | i think |
| [23:09:00] | BMOC: | it crashed after i selected cd under playlist;) |
| [23:10:00] | Chutt: | libcdaudio, likely |
| [23:11:00] | BMOC: | hey jams, mjpegtools doesn't need libdv support for what i am doing, does it? |
| [23:11:00] | BMOC: | - libDV (digital video) support : false |
| [23:11:00] | BMOC: | - libDV PAL YV12 read support : false |
| [23:12:00] | BMOC: | jams: http://pastebin.com/328722 with mjpegtools compile |
| [23:14:00] | directhex: | gah, installing lvemux isn't exactly trivial is it O_o |
| [23:14:00] | BMOC: | k, i think i found an rpm that should work |
| [23:15:00] | BMOC: | okie dokie jams, i have 1.6.2 installe now |
| [23:15:00] | BMOC: | let me try nuv2disc.sh again |
| [23:15:00] | k-man_: | how do i work out where linux put the device nodes for my dvb cards? |
| [23:16:00] | k-man_: | maybe it didn't make device nodes? it certainly found my cards at boot time |
| [23:16:00] | directhex: | /dev/dvb for me |
| [23:16:00] | BMOC: | oo a crash |
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| [23:16:00] | BMOC: | Transcode of complete 08/03 04:16:16 PM |
| [23:16:00] | BMOC: | commonvars: line 164: osd_cat: command not found |
| [23:16:00] | MrSpiffy: | yo |
| [23:16:00] | k-man_: | hmmm... directhex , i don't have that directory |
| [23:17:00] | directhex: | k-man_, which cards? |
| [23:17:00] | MrSpiffy: | I have myth installed from at-rpms on a via system – watching recodring locks up system hard |
| [23:17:00] | MrSpiffy: | anybody see this before? |
| [23:18:00] | k-man_: | directhex, twinhan vision plus |
| [23:18:00] | directhex: | k-man_, which driver controls that hardware? |
| [23:18:00] | k-man_: | directhex, bt878 |
| [23:19:00] | k-man_: | bttv |
| [23:19:00] | directhex: | hm, not sure what to look for on those, mine are cx88xx |
| [23:20:00] | k-man_: | hmmm |
| [23:20:00] | k-man_: | directhex, maybe i just need to make the device nodes? |
| [23:20:00] | directhex: | k-man_, do you use udev? |
| [23:20:00] | k-man_: | thats what that document seems to indicate |
| [23:20:00] | k-man_: | what is udev? |
| [23:21:00] | k-man_: | directhex, no, i doubt it |
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| [23:21:00] | directhex: | udev is a daemon which creates a /dev on the fly, based on your actual hardware (as reported by /sys) |
| [23:21:00] | k-man_: | directhex, i'm using a very standard debian stable install |
| [23:21:00] | MrSpiffy: | xris, any knowledge of a pre-built myth locking on a via board? |
| [23:21:00] | directhex: | k-man_, debian 3.1? 2.4.27 or 2.6.8? |
| [23:22:00] | BMOC: | hmm, qdvdauthor page says it requires mjpegtools > 1.6.2 |
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| [23:22:00] | BMOC: | maybe he meant >= |
| [23:22:00] | k-man_: | directhex, 2.6.8 |
| [23:22:00] | directhex: | k-man_, dpkg -l udev |
| [23:23:00] | k-man_: | directhex, oh, i think its installed |
| [23:23:00] | k-man_: | ii |
| [23:23:00] | k-man_: | version 0.56–3 |
| [23:23:00] | directhex: | okay, so the device nodes aren't being created, becuase nothing in /sys/ is telling them to |
| [23:23:00] | xris: | MrSpiffy: that's a rather generic question.. pre-built by whom? and which via board? (but no, I don't know) |
| [23:23:00] | ivor: | MrSpiffy: what was your via problem |
| [23:23:00] | directhex: | it's possibly your bt8x8 is supported, but the tuner isn't – i had that on the stock 2.6.8 |
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| [23:24:00] | ivor: | (just read my #mythtv backlog) |
| [23:24:00] | MrSpiffy: | xris – at-rpms on fedora core 2 myth v 18 |
| [23:24:00] | k-man_: | directhex, oh.... how do i checck that? |
| [23:24:00] | directhex: | k-man_, paste your dmesg output on a paster bot for me to read through |
| [23:24:00] | ivor: | MrSpiffy: where are you getting your unichrome driver from |
| [23:24:00] | MrSpiffy: | via kernel module and x.org driver from dripkg – cvs – unichrome |
| [23:24:00] | MrSpiffy: | via drivers work running xserver and window manager |
| [23:25:00] | MrSpiffy: | also runs mythfronted |
| [23:25:00] | MrSpiffy: | when I try to watch anything – it locks up |
| [23:25:00] | k-man_: | directhex, which paster bot? |
| [23:25:00] | ** k-man_ is new to pasterbots ** | |
| [23:25:00] | ivor: | are you trying to use the via hardware accel |
| [23:25:00] | ** xris thinks he means something like pastebin.ca ** | |
| [23:25:00] | MrSpiffy: | I've tested the hardware with the minimyth image – works |
| [23:26:00] | directhex: | k-man_, doesn't make much difference. try http://channels.debian.net/paste/ – i just need to see some output |
| [23:26:00] | MrSpiffy: | ivor – I have that option commented out in xorg.conf |
| [23:26:00] | ivor: | does minimyth work with the hardware accel. |
| [23:26:00] | ivor: | eh? what option? |
| [23:26:00] | MrSpiffy: | # Option "EnableAGPDMA" "true" |
| [23:26:00] | ivor: | what type of board are you using. |
| [23:26:00] | Beirdo: | hometime |
| [23:27:00] | MrSpiffy: | the frame buffer module is accellerated |
| [23:27:00] | k-man_: | directhex, check out #pasty |
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| [23:27:00] | MrSpiffy: | the xorg driver did install lib... |
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| [23:27:00] | MrSpiffy: | um – what the hell was that |
| [23:27:00] | MrSpiffy: | libviaXvMC |
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| [23:27:00] | ivor: | what type of board are you using |
| [23:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | via epim |
| [23:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | M10 |
| [23:28:00] | abarbaccia: | hey all – im thinking of changing my mythtv site over to a wiki since i've been having so much trouble with mambo |
| [23:28:00] | MrSpiffy: | mini-itx |
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| [23:28:00] | abarbaccia: | how do you all think about that |
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| [23:28:00] | laga: | abarbaccia: your mythtv site? |
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| [23:28:00] | KungFu: | hi |
| [23:28:00] | ivor: | ok. if minimyth works and it uses the VLD hardware accelleration... then there's a problem with your build. |
| [23:28:00] | KungFu: | mythfrontend |
| [23:28:00] | KungFu: | mythfrontend: error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.18.1.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| [23:28:00] | abarbaccia: | laga, yea – unfortunatly its not working right now |
| [23:28:00] | laga: | hi KungFu |
| [23:28:00] | KungFu: | what can I do? |
| [23:29:00] | laga: | abarbaccia: heh. |
| [23:29:00] | kormoc: | KungFu, you could install mythtv correctly? |
| [23:29:00] | laga: | KungFu: we need more information. your distro, where you got mythtv from, etc. |
| [23:29:00] | KungFu: | good idea! |
| [23:29:00] | KungFu: | debain based (kanotix) |
| [23:29:00] | KungFu: | I got it from |
| [23:29:00] | laga: | KungFu: oh, and join #mythtv-de if you want to talk about mythtv in german. |
| [23:29:00] | MrSpiffy: | mu mistake – not running libviaXvMC |
| [23:29:00] | laga: | KungFu: great. we've got some kanotix nerds there. |
| [23:30:00] | KungFu: | deb http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv |
| [23:30:00] | KungFu: | deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv |
| [23:30:00] | KungFu: | and I had a CVS versino before – apt-get removed if then (mythtv*) |
| [23:31:00] | ivor: | MrSpiffy: are you planning on using libXvMC |
| [23:31:00] | KungFu: | then apt-get clean && apt-get install mythtv |
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| [23:31:00] | abarbaccia: | laga, i made a decent mythtv ubuntu site – and i was getting a lotta users – just damn webserver decided to only allow changes to 644 and the files are ownd by user apache – so i can't chagne config settings |
| [23:32:00] | MrSpiffy: | ivor, not planned |
| [23:32:00] | MrSpiffy: | ivor, I'd be happy if this thing just worked |
| [23:32:00] | MrSpiffy: | ivor, I'll try tweaking it up later |
| [23:32:00] | laga: | abarbaccia: it's possible that i've visited tht site when i tried ubuntu. |
| [23:32:00] | MrSpiffy: | ivor, it has been a long process – big integration problem |
| [23:32:00] | laga: | abarbaccia: i like mediawiki. |
| [23:33:00] | KungFu: | deb http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv |
| [23:33:00] | KungFu: | deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv |
| [23:33:00] | KungFu: | oops |
| [23:33:00] | laga: | abarbaccia: BTW. there is a mediawiki at mythtv.org. you could be the first person to use it! just sk chutt. |
| [23:33:00] | MrSpiffy: | ivor, here's where I'm at – fedora install from cd's core2, also installed x.org and xfontserver |
| [23:33:00] | KungFu: | apt-get install libmyth-0.18.1 |
| [23:33:00] | KungFu: | alreay there |
| [23:33:00] | MrSpiffy: | ivor, yum update the release |
| [23:33:00] | laga: | KungFu: run ldconfig? |
| [23:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | ivor, installed pre-compiled via frame buffer kernel mods – lit up the tv-out for the console (cool) |
| [23:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | ivor, installed via,drm and via x.org driver from cvs – unichrome |
| [23:34:00] | KungFu: | as root? |
| [23:34:00] | ivor: | hmm, shouldn't need those. |
| [23:34:00] | laga: | KungFu: yep |
| [23:34:00] | KungFu: | didn't bring anything to console |
| [23:34:00] | ivor: | MrSpiffy: the binary frame buffer kernel mod that is. |
| [23:34:00] | MrSpiffy: | ivor, didn;t need 'em but it's nice to have a command prompt with a tv |
| [23:35:00] | laga: | KungFu: that's normal, i think. |
| [23:35:00] | laga: | KungFu: do you happen to run dvb-s? |
| [23:35:00] | KungFu: | yes |
| [23:35:00] | ivor: | MrSpiffy: you should have that anyway if you have TV out enabled in BIOS and you boot text mode. |
| [23:35:00] | MrSpiffy: | ivor, xserver runs – display on TV – light twm window manager |
| [23:35:00] | laga: | KungFu: well. join #mythtv-de, please. I'm too drunk to speak english. |
| [23:35:00] | MrSpiffy: | ivor, as it turns out you only get it on the rca output not svideo |
| [23:36:00] | MrSpiffy: | ivor, my work around was to plug the rca into a vcr on chan 3 |
| [23:36:00] | ivor: | MrSpiffy: beg to differ. :) I get it on SVideo. |
| [23:36:00] | MrSpiffy: | ivor, hmm. I do not – you must have that module in the kernel already |
| [23:36:00] | ivor: | MrSpiffy: anyway. you say via, drm and via xorg driver from cvs. can you clarify. |
| [23:36:00] | MrSpiffy: | ivor, are you running in init level 5? |
| [23:36:00] | MrSpiffy: | ivor, if so that would explain it |
| [23:37:00] | ivor: | MrSpiffy: no I don't. you will get text mode on the TV out with no kernel modules. |
| [23:37:00] | MrSpiffy: | fc4 had the frame buffer driver in the kernel and onstall – lit up svideo – fc2 does not |
| [23:37:00] | MrSpiffy: | I found that out yesterday |
| [23:37:00] | MrSpiffy: | but |
| [23:37:00] | MrSpiffy: | that's not a show stopper |
| [23:37:00] | MrSpiffy: | myth locking up when viewing anything is a show stopper |
| [23:38:00] | ivor: | it is if the via binary frame buffer driver is fucking up the x driver memory allocation |
| [23:38:00] | MrSpiffy: | hmmm |
| [23:38:00] | MrSpiffy: | that's a thought |
| [23:38:00] | ivor: | :D |
| [23:38:00] | MrSpiffy: | hmm |
| [23:38:00] | MrSpiffy: | easy enough to find out |
| [23:38:00] | MrSpiffy: | hold on... |
| [23:38:00] | ivor: | esactly. |
| [23:39:00] | MrSpiffy: | gonna have to wait – it's compiling from source right now – I was going to try that |
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| [23:40:00] | MrSpiffy: | while I'm waiting – the x display on the tv looks like crap |
| [23:40:00] | MrSpiffy: | too bright |
| [23:40:00] | MrSpiffy: | too high contrast — fuzzy as hell |
| [23:40:00] | MrSpiffy: | some people out there suggested setting it to 720x480 |
| [23:40:00] | ivor: | you need to hang around the unichrome mailing list for tweaking tips then. |
| [23:40:00] | MrSpiffy: | didn;t help |
| [23:41:00] | MrSpiffy: | yeah |
| [23:41:00] | MrSpiffy: | the minimyth image looks like crap too |
| [23:41:00] | ivor: | although... if you're using FC2 then you should be able to use RPMS for all the unichrome stuff anyway. |
| [23:42:00] | MrSpiffy: | I found some guy's site with rpms – it means a kernel change |
| [23:42:00] | MrSpiffy: | and a wipe of everything I just did |
| [23:42:00] | ivor: | http://washington.kelkoo.net/epia |
| [23:43:00] | MrSpiffy: | yep |
| [23:43:00] | MrSpiffy: | that's the one |
| [23:43:00] | ivor: | but you should be o.k. 1. ifyou have a recent kernel. 2. you dont build drm into your kernel |
| [23:43:00] | ivor: | 3. you get and build drm from dri.sf.net |
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| [23:43:00] | MrSpiffy: | all 3 |
| [23:43:00] | ivor: | 4. you build the libXvMC wrapper library off unichrome |
| [23:44:00] | MrSpiffy: | didn't do 4 |
| [23:44:00] | ivor: | makes life easier. |
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| [23:44:00] | ivor: | 5. you build and install the unichrome driver either from cvs or from the snapshot. |
| [23:44:00] | ivor: | http://myth.ivor.org/unichrome |
| [23:44:00] | MrSpiffy: | did 5 from cvs |
| [23:44:00] | MrSpiffy: | using dripkg |
| [23:44:00] | ivor: | what instructions did you follow. |
| [23:44:00] | MrSpiffy: | from sf |
| [23:45:00] | MrSpiffy: | unichrome project |
| [23:45:00] | MrSpiffy: | the 3d page has a good tutorial |
| [23:45:00] | MrSpiffy: | one sec – I canceled that build – trying againg without the fram buffer modules |
| [23:46:00] | abarbaccia: | laga – my site is fairly new (< 1 month) |
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| [23:48:00] | ivor: | MrSpiffy: did you follow the "Unichrome on Fedora" guide from the sf.net site verbatim? (I'm just looking at it now) hmmm. you might want to try the snapshot build. I think the new version of the drm library might not be working with the copy that you've checked out. |
| [23:51:00] | MrSpiffy: | might be |
| [23:52:00] | ivor: | MrSpiffy: gotta go. if youre still having problems drop an email to the unichrome mailing lists and I'll pick it up in the morning. |
| [23:52:00] | MrSpiffy: | ivor, quick question – I have no music or video menu under media library. never saw that before |
| [23:53:00] | ivor: | you've built from source but havent build the plugins. |
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| [23:56:00] | MrSpiffy: | thanks |
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| [23:56:00] | ivor: | np |
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| [23:57:00] | MrSpiffy: | I am going to try again using the rpm |
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