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Monday, August 1st, 2005, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:00] mchou: sigh, this a64 crap is gonna take a long time :)
[00:01:00] mchou: charlesv: you decided against going to frys for instant gratification?
[00:02:00] charlesv: mchou: i had some family stuff come up
[00:02:00] charlesv: my wife's grandfather passed away yesterday morning
[00:02:00] charlesv: and i don't drive in the city
[00:02:00] XAD: ahhhhh, does anyone know if ivtv has a irc channel?? (after testing a lot of ivtv 0.3.? versions I finally found the bad code causing no-sound on my mythtv PVR500 system so I now can run ivtv 0.3.7a)...
[00:02:00] mchou: oops. sorry to hear that.
[00:02:00] charlesv: also i wanna wait til i ahve all my hardware that's coming in the mail before i get aything else
[00:02:00] charlesv: to make sure if i have problems i can put it together before the return policy runs out
[00:02:00] mchou: charlesv: hmm??? [15:02:11] <charlesv> and i don't drive in the city
[00:03:00] mchou: charlesv: where else are you supposed to drive? :)
[00:04:00] mchou: XAD: ivtv-dev is the irc channel
[00:04:00] mchou: XAD: and do share what you found with us here :)
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[00:06:00] mchou: charlesv: haha, I feel sorry for that Black (live) lady that's sitting all by her lonesome self in that pic. That's CLASSIC :)
[00:07:00] mchou: looks like she is holding on tight to her purse :)
[00:07:00] directhex: zombies need no money! they need BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSs
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[00:08:00] mchou: it's weird there is only one zombie chick :)
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[00:08:00] mchou: guess zombies cant reproduce :)
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[00:11:00] mchou: sigh, I'm soo confused.
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[00:12:00] charlesv: mchou: we just moved to SF
[00:12:00] charlesv: and i dont drive in the city of SF
[00:12:00] charlesv: but outside the city
[00:12:00] charlesv: i will drive :P
[00:12:00] charlesv: i just get freaked out, too many cars
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[00:12:00] mchou: charlesv: OK. fair enough.
[00:12:00] mchou: charlesv: driving on 101 is worse than SF, trust me
[00:13:00] fman: SF would be cool to drive around in
[00:13:00] mchou: SF is a cakewalk by comparison
[00:13:00] fman: I've never had a car when I was there
[00:13:00] fman: Brussels is the worst I've seen, that and Paris
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[00:13:00] mchou: fman: I dont really think you wanna drive IN SF.
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[00:14:00] mchou: maybe outskirts, but not in SF itself.
[00:14:00] fman: why not?
[00:14:00] fman: I've driven in most big cities around the world
[00:14:00] mchou: fman: dude, I grew up in NYC and now live by SF.
[00:14:00] fman: :)
[00:14:00] mchou: there is no way I'd drive NYC.
[00:14:00] mchou: I'd bike NYC :)
[00:14:00] charlesv: well i take that back
[00:15:00] charlesv: it's not the driving so much as the parking that freaks me out :P'
[00:15:00] mchou: like as in lance armstrong bike :)
[00:15:00] fman: I've driven NYC
[00:15:00] mchou: fman: you dont get anywhere.
[00:15:00] fman: ah, is that the problem
[00:15:00] mchou: I used to be a bike messenger in NYC. We beat cars everytime.
[00:15:00] fman: I though you were refering to caos traffic and drivers
[00:16:00] mchou: I'm sure he meant that as well :)
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[00:16:00] mchou: but parking is a bitch.
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[00:16:00] fman: yeah, parking in NYC was stupid
[00:17:00] mchou: you pay more in NYC for a garage than you do a house :)
[00:18:00] mchou: $10 for 10 minutes :)
[00:18:00] mchou: I can get a prostitute for cheaper :)
[00:18:00] fman: :)
[00:19:00] fman: so, these aopen pentium-m motherboards looks quite sweet
[00:19:00] mchou: but they I'd have to worry about where to park :)
[00:19:00] mchou: s/they/then
[00:20:00] mchou: fman: link pls?
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[00:22:00] fman: http://global.aopen.com.tw/products/mb/i915GMm-HFS.htm
[00:22:00] mchou: well, linux a64 has been an interesting experiment
[00:22:00] fman: difficult to set up?
[00:22:00] mchou: dont think it's for me.
[00:22:00] fman: you wanna try getting myth running on a PPC
[00:22:00] mchou: fman: lol
[00:23:00] fman: took me several days
[00:23:00] fman: most of the code expects x86
[00:23:00] fman: so lots of makefiles to dick with
[00:23:00] mchou: the issue for me is getting win32 sound codecs to work
[00:23:00] mchou: video codecs work fine but I dont get jack sound.
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[00:24:00] mchou: fman: what is that, mATX?
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[00:25:00] fman: matx
[00:25:00] mchou: dude you need more slots :)
[00:25:00] fman: :)
[00:25:00] fman: what for ?
[00:25:00] mchou: pci-e and old pci is one big clustef**k
[00:25:00] fman: what would you rather have?
[00:25:00] mchou: you dont get enough of either.
[00:26:00] fman: for a myth box you need a couple of video inputs, this thing has all the outputs onboard
[00:26:00] fman: DVI, Dvideo, HDTV stuff
[00:26:00] mchou: right now legacy pci and agp wont be too bad.
[00:27:00] fman: back in 5
[00:28:00] enyc: Hrrrm
[00:28:00] enyc: Im confused r.e. directfb mode
[00:28:00] enyc: I get idea it doenst work properly and you need x11 for sane mythtv ??????
[00:29:00] slide23_: How long is guide data stored for?
[00:32:00] xris: enyc: I think directfb is for pvr-350 output
[00:32:00] enyc: Hrrm
[00:32:00] enyc: I have a g400
[00:32:00] laga: xris: i dont think so ;)
[00:32:00] enyc: which does really good RGB-tv-out
[00:33:00] Ashlar_: mysql> select min(starttime) from program;
[00:33:00] Ashlar_: +---------------------+
[00:33:00] Ashlar_: | 2005-07–30 00:03:00 |
[00:33:00] enyc: but all this isnt supported on gentoo's builds really for mythtv ;-(
[00:33:00] xris: laga: well, then I think wrong.
[00:33:00] Ashlar_: program data gets cleaned up pretty well
[00:33:00] xris: enyc: why don't you want X?
[00:33:00] mchou: xris: cause he is a gentoo lamer
[00:33:00] enyc: xris: because I dont know how to make that run rgb tv-out on g400
[00:34:00] xris: enyc: does your g400 have a composite or svideo output plug?
[00:34:00] enyc: xris: it can do, with the acdapter plugged in
[00:34:00] xris: then doesn't it just work?
[00:34:00] enyc: xris: it can also have component (in RGB form, not Y, By Ry form)
[00:35:00] enyc: xris: its supported under directfb.. seemingly not under x.org
[00:35:00] mchou: enyc: your tv takes RGB?
[00:35:00] enyc: mcho: yes...
[00:35:00] xris: over svideo?
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[00:36:00] enyc: mcho: no, RGB over RGB ;-)
[00:36:00] enyc: RGB != svideo
[00:36:00] xris: enyc: hence my confusion.
[00:36:00] xris: you have component video out, then.
[00:36:00] enyc: xris: you can make a rgb-scart cable for it...
[00:36:00] charlesv: assuming i have a card with DVI out (FX 5200), i should be able to just rock a DVI->HDMI cable to my TV, yes?
[00:36:00] mchou: maybe.
[00:36:00] charlesv: afaik, HDMI is the same pinout as DVI + audio + encryption?
[00:37:00] charlesv: i mean, assuming i can get the right modeline for the TV
[00:37:00] charlesv: but the adapter wouldnt need to be supported or recognized
[00:37:00] xris: charlesv: it's a different connector
[00:38:00] charlesv: right
[00:38:00] charlesv: but what i'm saying is that if i have a TV with HDMI ina and a card with DVI out, the signal itself should be the same
[00:38:00] xris: dunno.
[00:38:00] Ashlar_: you can get a cable for it.. DVI-I – DVI-M
[00:38:00] charlesv: i guess i'll find out!
[00:38:00] charlesv: i have a cable coming dvi to hdmi
[00:39:00] ** xris doesn't have any of that fancy hdtv stuff. **
[00:39:00] Ashlar_: http://www.theavguide.co.uk/dvidigitalaudiovideo.html
[00:40:00] enyc: well.. xris theres 4 forms of ''normal'' pal/ntsc output.. theres the separate-component forms  — red,green,blue and then luminance,red-luminance,blue-luminance, and then s-video which is luminacnce with colour (chrominance) signal (Y,C connection i think)  — and then the combined Y+C signal (C is 'embedded' high up in the video signal band) known as composite  ;-)
[00:40:00] xris: don't forget rf
[00:41:00] xris: Ive never seen anything other than RGB for component
[00:41:00] mchou: xris: huh?
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[00:42:00] enyc: xris: indeed, thats composite though ;-) — just AM modulated, with one of the 'sidebands' chopped off to save frequency space... iwth audio/etc. put above the video.. basically afaik ;-)
[00:47:00] Ashlar_: good primer on component / composite / s-video.. http://www.projectorcentral.com/component.htm
[00:47:00] mchou: enyc: Is the G400 you have a pci or agp card?
[00:47:00] enyc: AGP card
[00:48:00] mchou: enyc: how much is your time worth? :)
[00:48:00] enyc: mchou: unsure
[00:48:00] mishehu: bah.
[00:48:00] mchou: enyc: let's say 3 hrs
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[00:48:00] mchou: enyc: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814133143
[00:49:00] mchou: enyc: look at all the goodies :)
[00:50:00] mchou: enyc: what kind of inputs does your tv have?
[00:53:00] fman: pity the G450 dosn't work properly...
[00:53:00] fman: got one sitting here doing nothing
[00:53:00] mchou: fman: indeedy
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[00:54:00] fman: have to work out how to get my radeon 9200 that has s-video to actually spit something out that port
[00:54:00] mchou: hehe
[00:55:00] mchou: probably need to plug and boot with only TV attached :)
[00:55:00] fman: :)
[00:55:00] fman: need to go give that a go I suspect
[00:55:00] mchou: or you can map a hot key
[00:56:00] mchou: but that's only if you use windoze
[00:57:00] mchou: it's really too bad there are no other viable linux options for graphics.
[00:57:00] mchou: nvidia should not be allowed to corner that market.
[00:58:00] laga: mchou: it's not their fault that ati's driver suck.
[00:58:00] mchou: heh, no doubt.
[00:59:00] mchou: I wonder if good programmers are really hard to come by in Canada :)
[01:00:00] laga: heh
[01:00:00] mchou: or at least ppl who know opengl inside out.
[01:00:00] laga: they should open source it
[01:00:00] mchou: lol
[01:00:00] mchou: that aint ever gonna happen :)
[01:02:00] laga: yep. :/
[01:03:00] mchou: all right, enough BS. I'm off to Fry's :)
[01:03:00] laga: have fun
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[01:25:00] catisonh: anyone here successfully get zsnes to work?
[01:25:00] charlesv: mchou get me that 3000+ combo and ship it to me
[01:25:00] charlesv: i'll give you 5 bucks + shipping!
[01:26:00] laga: charlesv: why don't you use your online shop of coice?
[01:27:00] laga: choice?
[01:27:00] charlesv: cause it's a better deal at fry's :)
[01:27:00] charlesv: 89.99 for sempron 3000+ and a mobo
[01:27:00] laga: hehe
[01:28:00] charlesv: off to the video store
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[01:33:00] laga: heh.
[01:34:00] laga: --enable-xmvc won't work vry well. --enable-xvmc is much better
[01:34:00] ** laga bands his head repeatedly against the wall **
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[01:37:00] me23453: is there any way to have the song title show in the mythmusic visualizations?
[01:43:00] ** tdonahue is back **
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[02:11:00] fman: is there any tweaking I have to do to get tvout working on a powercolor radeon 9200
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[02:23:00] rabies_: hi, whenever i run mythtv or mythfrontend and do watch tv X crashes
[02:23:00] rabies_: and not in a good way
[02:23:00] rabies_: is there any way to find out whats causing the crash?
[02:24:00] rabies_: mythtv crashes when i run it on top of the ivtv drivers...
[02:25:00] rabies_: mplayer works, though i cant change the channel
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[02:29:00] awstott: abarbaccia, your webpage is down?
[02:29:00] rabies_: awstott: you have any experience w/ ivtv and mythtv?
[02:30:00] awstott: I havn't got my box up and running yet.... I was just gonna work on it and abarbaccia has a kick ass tutorial
[02:31:00] abarbaccia: lol
[02:31:00] awstott: whats up with your webpage?
[02:31:00] Ashlar_: rabies_: if mplayer works fine, try using ptune.pl or ptune-ui.pl to change channels.. if that works, it's not the ivtv drivers
[02:31:00] abarbaccia: i know my damn hosting provider sucks
[02:32:00] rabies_: Ashlar_: um, ptune isnt working
[02:32:00] Ashlar_: rabies_: how so? erroring out, or wot?
[02:32:00] rabies_: sec
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[02:33:00] rabies_: mythtv@debian:~/ivtv-0.3.7a/utils$ ./ptune-ui.pl
[02:33:00] rabies_: Video::Frequencies version 0.03 required--this is only version 0.01 at ./ptune-ui.pl line 9.
[02:33:00] ** awstott wants that tutorial....... :( **
[02:33:00] rabies_: BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./ptune-ui.pl line 9.
[02:33:00] rabies_: and this is the CPAN version
[02:33:00] rabies_: mythtv@debian:~/ivtv-0.3.7a/utils$
[02:33:00] Ashlar_: so upgrade em
[02:33:00] rabies_: how?
[02:33:00] rabies_: where?
[02:35:00] Ashlar_: depending on whether you're using fedora, debian, etc.. there's packages.. or get it directly via CPAN
[02:35:00] abarbaccia: awstott, sorry – yea my site is down
[02:35:00] abarbaccia: hosting provider reliability is only so so
[02:36:00] Ashlar_: ie, perl -MCPAN -e shell ... then install video::frequencies
[02:36:00] awstott: :(
[02:36:00] Ashlar_: err two colons there
[02:37:00] awstott: any idea when it'll be up again?
[02:37:00] abarbaccia: awstott, i mean, i'm here and could help ya if you want it
[02:37:00] awstott: I gotta start over again
[02:37:00] awstott: hehe
[02:37:00] abarbaccia: no biggie
[02:37:00] awstott: I fawked it up big time
[02:37:00] abarbaccia: its always fixable
[02:37:00] abarbaccia: what did you mess up
[02:37:00] awstott: so I reinstalled (hooray for having /home as a seperate partition)
[02:38:00] abarbaccia: alright
[02:38:00] awstott: I messed up something with mysql, so I tried to fix it, and really broke it
[02:38:00] abarbaccia: hahaha – dont forget – if you mess it up bad, you can always remove the package completely and install it again – and all configs are gone too
[02:38:00] awstott: so I have a fresh install of hoary and thats it
[02:38:00] awstott: I tried that
[02:38:00] abarbaccia: alright
[02:38:00] abarbaccia: no biggie – lets go through it then
[02:38:00] awstott: thats how I broke it more
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[02:38:00] awstott: lemme get on here from my box
[02:39:00] abarbaccia: k
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[02:39:00] awstott^n: aight i'm here
[02:40:00] abarbaccia: alright – so lets get your capture card working
[02:40:00] awstott^n: need ot install ivtv or something right?
[02:40:00] abarbaccia: yea
[02:40:00] abarbaccia: get the source
[02:40:00] awstott^n: yah i have that on my deskopt
[02:41:00] abarbaccia: alright
[02:41:00] abarbaccia: do an apt-get install build-essential
[02:41:00] rabies_: wtf
[02:41:00] rabies_: im getting no video
[02:41:00] rabies_: none!
[02:41:00] rabies_: its all static
[02:41:00] rabies_: and i have everything plugged in right
[02:41:00] rabies_: o_o
[02:42:00] ** awstott^n needs to remove the cdrom repository..... **
[02:42:00] awstott^n: hehe
[02:42:00] abarbaccia: yea- good call
[02:42:00] awstott^n: I really need to spend more time on here and less time on windows
[02:42:00] awstott^n: k thats done...
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[02:43:00] abarbaccia: alright – now you should be able to compile
[02:43:00] rabies_: i should be getting picture from /dev/video0 right?
[02:43:00] abarbaccia: go into the directory do the ./configure
[02:43:00] abarbaccia: rabies_, what card?
[02:44:00] rabies_: PVR150
[02:44:00] rabies_: set to tuner 0
[02:44:00] rabies_: NTSC ntsc-cable channel 3
[02:44:00] abarbaccia: alright then yes
[02:45:00] abarbaccia: /dev/video0 shoudl give you mpeg video – but you need to tune it to the correct channels or let myth do it for you
[02:45:00] rabies_: myth crashes...
[02:45:00] awstott^n: I need to compile the driver and utils or something like that right abarbaccia
[02:45:00] rabies_: ptune.pl is only giving me static
[02:46:00] abarbaccia: yes
[02:46:00] abarbaccia: do the driver
[02:46:00] abarbaccia: then the utils dir
[02:46:00] abarbaccia: you need to run ./configure
[02:46:00] abarbaccia: make
[02:46:00] awstott^n: ./configure doesn't work in there
[02:46:00] abarbaccia: then make install
[02:46:00] awstott^n: in the driver folder
[02:46:00] abarbaccia: alright- whats the error
[02:46:00] abarbaccia: kernel source
[02:47:00] abarbaccia: crap
[02:47:00] abarbaccia: sudo apt-get install linux-source
[02:48:00] abarbaccia: sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10
[02:49:00] awstott^n: wow thats huge
[02:49:00] abarbaccia: should be like 40 megs
[02:49:00] abarbaccia: if you think that its bad, wait till you need to compile one someday
[02:49:00] abarbaccia: start it and come back in a few hours
[02:49:00] awstott^n: lol
[02:49:00] GreyFoxx: Sweet! I got official approval to use the Project mayhem backgrounds/icons to make a MythTV theme
[02:50:00] awstott^n: 37.5mb
[02:50:00] Ashlar_: GF, what's project mayhem?
[02:50:00] GreyFoxx: Ashlar_: A Gorgeous skin for XBMC
[02:50:00] Ashlar_: ahh, lol.. I was thinking fight club
[02:51:00] abarbaccia: me too
[02:51:00] abarbaccia: lol
[02:51:00] abarbaccia: GreyFoxx, you got a preview?
[02:51:00] GreyFoxx: I already started playing around with it but was gonna keep it just for me unless they didn't mind me passing ti around
[02:51:00] GreyFoxx: abarbaccia: http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/theme/mythvideosnap2.jpg
[02:52:00] awstott^n: k now what abarbaccia ?
[02:52:00] GreyFoxx: Those were just a few basic screens I did for my box here. The GF loves them
[02:52:00] Ashlar_: nice
[02:52:00] abarbaccia: you gotta make a link
[02:52:00] ** awstott^n really wishes your page was up.... **
[02:52:00] abarbaccia: me too
[02:52:00] abarbaccia: do this
[02:53:00] awstott^n: can't get in via google cache... I got the home page up
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[02:53:00] abarbaccia: yea, didnt submit the sitemap and google only did my homepage
[02:53:00] abarbaccia: sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10 /usr/src/linux
[02:54:00] abarbaccia: then try the configure again
[02:54:00] me23453: you guys ever run into a problem where the tvoverscan in xorg.conf is either fully on or fully off no matter what value you put?
[02:54:00] abarbaccia: GreyFoxx, i love the porn folder in that picture
[02:54:00] awstott^n: sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10 /usr/src/linux
[02:54:00] awstott^n: damn it
[02:54:00] awstott^n: wrong windo
[02:54:00] Ashlar_: me23453: yah.. epia?
[02:55:00] abarbaccia: GreyFoxx, i WANT that theme
[02:55:00] abarbaccia: its real slick
[02:55:00] GreyFoxx: abarbaccia: Lots of people pick up on the porn folder heh
[02:55:00] awstott^n: bahh... I gotta run.... I'll try and get back in a few... thanks for the help abarbaccia
[02:56:00] abarbaccia: no problem
[02:56:00] abarbaccia: yea, so you've been developing that
[02:58:00] abarbaccia: GreyFoxx, that was for you
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[02:58:00] UncleBill: hello friends
[02:58:00] GreyFoxx: What?
[02:59:00] UncleBill: what is the format of .vob files that are produced by mythdvd in the "perfect" format?
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[02:59:00] rabies_: well
[02:59:00] rabies_: mythtv crashed me comp...AGAIN
[02:59:00] Ashlar_: UncleBill: direct file copy
[03:00:00] UncleBill: is it mpeg1? other?
[03:00:00] GreyFoxx: UncleBill: DVD's are MPEG2
[03:01:00] Ashlar_: http://www.videohelp.com/dvd
[03:01:00] UncleBill: GreyFoxx, you have mvpmc going, yes?
[03:01:00] GreyFoxx: Yes
[03:01:00] UncleBill: thanks, Ashlar_
[03:02:00] UncleBill: I just got it going. pretty cool. but I can't play my perfect dvd rips on it via nfs. they play ok for a bit, then skip now and then
[03:02:00] UncleBill: I was thinking maybe the format of the .vobs aren't supported
[03:02:00] UncleBill: but it claims full mpeg1 and mpeg2 support.
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[03:02:00] UncleBill: do you play .vobs on it, GreyFoxx?
[03:02:00] GreyFoxx: No, the hardware can play it. Assuming the player software deals with it properly
[03:02:00] GreyFoxx: no I don't
[03:03:00] GreyFoxx: I use it for myth stuff pretty much exclusively
[03:03:00] UncleBill: ok
[03:03:00] GreyFoxx: I did once, just to try it, but had audio sync issues
[03:03:00] UncleBill: I wonder if my exerience is typical.
[03:03:00] GreyFoxx: haven't tried it since
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[03:03:00] rabies_: well
[03:03:00] UncleBill: yes, I have bad sync issues as well. it's not as bad playing mythtv
[03:03:00] rabies_: anyone have any ideas?
[03:04:00] rabies_: i didnt get anything cause i crashed again...
[03:04:00] rabies_: all i get is static!
[03:04:00] rabies_: or crashing
[03:05:00] UncleBill: what video format requires the least cpu to play? I'm assuming that's part of my problem.
[03:05:00] GreyFoxx: If it's crashing the entire system it's more likely a problem with the drivers/hardware. mythtv itself might crash but there is nothing it oculd do to takedown the whole OS
[03:05:00] Ashlar_: rabies_: check dmesg to see what tuner type is detected
[03:05:00] GreyFoxx: UncleBill: I highly doubt that is it
[03:05:00] rabies_: ivtv: Setting Tuner 50
[03:05:00] rabies_: tuner: type set to 50 (TCL 2002N) by ivtv i2c driver #0
[03:05:00] UncleBill: well, I can see cpu going very high in a top when it's playing a video
[03:06:00] GreyFoxx: Uncle and playing a regular mpeg2 via nfs works without a problem ?
[03:06:00] Ashlar_: rabies_, did you specify that, or did it autodetect it?
[03:06:00] rabies_: Ashlar_: autodetect
[03:06:00] UncleBill: I haven't tried that, GreyFoxx
[03:07:00] rabies_: Ashlar_: it detected the PVR150 part right
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[03:07:00] UncleBill: I've only tried perfect .vobs and .nuvs (renamed to mpeg). the second didn't work
[03:07:00] Ashlar_: rabies_, is ptune working for you now?
[03:07:00] GreyFoxx: UncleBill: What kind of capture card are you using?
[03:07:00] UncleBill: pvr-250
[03:07:00] rabies_: ivtv: XXX PCI device: 0x2530 vendor: 0x8086
[03:07:00] rabies_: tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 26032, rev = C199, serial# = 7700538
[03:07:00] rabies_: tveeprom: tuner = TCL 2002N 5H (idx = 99, type = 50)
[03:07:00] rabies_: tveeprom: tuner fmt = NTSC(M) (eeprom = 0x08, v4l2 = 0x00001000)
[03:07:00] rabies_: tveeprom: audio_processor = TDA9850 (type = 3)
[03:08:00] rabies_: ivtv: i2c attach [client=tveeprom[50],ok]
[03:08:00] GreyFoxx: Then that should work without a problem
[03:08:00] rabies_: Ashlar_: define working
[03:08:00] GreyFoxx: In fact you don't even need to rename them
[03:08:00] rabies_: Ashlar_: im getting static on every channel
[03:08:00] UncleBill: should. but isn't I'm afraid
[03:08:00] UncleBill: yes, I tried non-renamed as well
[03:08:00] GreyFoxx: mvpmc will play them even with .nuv
[03:08:00] Ashlar_: working = not crashing :)
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[03:08:00] UncleBill: hmmmm. wonder why it's not
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[03:08:00] rabies_: Ashlar_: :)
[03:08:00] GreyFoxx: Login and run the command manually and watch the output
[03:08:00] UncleBill: I can play mp3s fine. but that's different
[03:09:00] rabies_: Ashlar_: actually if i use randr and reduce the resolution it doesnt crash
[03:09:00] Ashlar_: try ptune-ui.pl and make sure you've got the correct freq table
[03:09:00] rabies_: Ashlar_: but i only see a small part of it
[03:09:00] UncleBill: I've done that with .vobs, but not .nuvs. great idea
[03:09:00] rabies_: it zooms in to the upper left hand corner
[03:09:00] Ashlar_: ahh, but no static then?
[03:10:00] rabies_: Ashlar_: static..
[03:10:00] rabies_: Ashlar_: still static
[03:11:00] Ashlar_: ahh.. well, first thing to check is the freq table..
[03:11:00] rabies_: its the right table..
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[03:11:00] Ashlar_: hrmm.. might try different ones with ptune-ui, just to be sure
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[03:15:00] UncleBill: GreyFoxx, the console output looks like all is fune. just says "opened /videos/comedy/UncleBuck.nuv" "write threads released" "screensaver disable" "videoaspect ratio 4:3"
[03:15:00] UncleBill: and that's it
[03:15:00] UncleBill: it sits there as if it's playing something. but no audio or video
[03:15:00] UncleBill: s/fune/fine/
[03:15:00] rabies_: well crap
[03:15:00] rabies_: its the source
[03:16:00] rabies_: i've been using the wrong input
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[03:17:00] Ashlar_: lol
[03:19:00] UncleBill: mvpmc is breathing heavy too. two mvpmc processes at 41% and rpciod (nfs) is at 14%. we're loaded down.
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[03:23:00] rabies_: wtf is this
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[03:27:00] gary_: Finally got mythtv up and running and all is well with the world. I did notice however, that there is a blue outline around the screen when I am watching anything – has anyone else experienced this?
[03:28:00] rtsai: gary_: that's probably overscan/underscan. You can adjust those settings somewhere to get rid of it.
[03:29:00] charlesv: phew
[03:29:00] charlesv: thankfully it appears to be a problem with my firewire cable itself, not the drive, causing the slowness in transfers
[03:29:00] gary_: Cool, the blue border is only at the top and left, so I thought it may be picture centering. But I will try the overscan. Should I try the overscan on the nvidia driver or wihtin mythtv
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[03:30:00] rtsai: gary_: my NBC here gives me a stripe only at the top of the picture
[03:30:00] rtsai: I used mythtv settings to get rid of it, maybe nvidia also works
[03:31:00] gary_: Cool – thanks will give it a try
[03:31:00] Ashlar_: hrmm.. xvattr
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[03:31:00] Ashlar_: gary_: xvattr -a XV_COLORKEY -v 0
[03:32:00] Ashlar_: from the ml.. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . attr;#118224
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[03:34:00] gary_: Ashlar_ – Reading the post now – thanks. Sounds like exactly the issue I am having.
[03:35:00] me23453: are there any other mythmusic visualizations you can add? like one that will show the song title when its fullscreen?
[03:36:00] me23453: or can you think of any way to add that feature?
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[03:36:00] me23453: shouldnt be too hard i imagine
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[03:41:00] charlesv: so if i am a newbie to building a myth box (i've built linux boxes, but not since redhat 4.2), what distribution would you reccomend
[03:41:00] charlesv: knoppmyth?
[03:42:00] Ashlar_: yup
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[03:45:00] Krazylegz: Tip I found out the hard way today: KnoppMyth does not install the kernel sources, but provides them in the /usr/src/linux directory as a .bz2 file.
[03:45:00] charlesv: and if i wanted to futz with the interface just to get a feel for stuff (i.e., playing back movies / games) i could conceivably run the mythfrontend build from jeremiah morris?
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[03:52:00] charlesv: hmm, i gues si'd need the backend as well which doesnt run on os x
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[03:53:00] charlesv: unless someone has a backend they want to let me connect to and play with :)
[03:54:00] Tommck: you're not playing with my backend! that's exit only!
[03:54:00] charlesv: hee
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[03:59:00] charlesv: i wonder if you could use mythfrontend remotely to watch your shows if you had some of that verizon FIOS action
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[04:00:00] DJ_Necrogami: or Comcast 14Mbit service
[04:00:00] DJ_Necrogami: <--- on Comcast 14Mbit Service
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[04:01:00] charlesv: oooh
[04:01:00] charlesv: how much does that run??
[04:01:00] DJ_Necrogami: same as regular sercice
[04:01:00] DJ_Necrogami: service
[04:01:00] charlesv: wow
[04:01:00] charlesv: i think i'm locked into this DSL contract for a year
[04:01:00] charlesv: so maybe the time that's up, that'll be rolled out in SF
[04:01:00] awstott: lol
[04:01:00] awstott: we only have 7mbit cable up here :(
[04:02:00] DJ_Necrogami: the 14M service isnt avaliable to public
[04:02:00] charlesv: ah
[04:02:00] ** Tommck slaps everyone in here for whining about service he'd kill for **
[04:02:00] awstott: lol
[04:03:00] awstott: I only have 5mbit cable and 2.5mbit dsl in my house
[04:03:00] awstott: telco screwed up dsl by the sounds of things....
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[04:03:00] awstott: it's only supposed to be 1.5
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[04:04:00] ** Tommck is stuck with DirecWay **
[04:05:00] charlesv: mine is supposed to be 1.5–3
[04:05:00] charlesv: and i get like 1.54 :(
[04:05:00] ** Ashlar_ is getting FIOS in September **
[04:06:00] awstott: what's FIOS?
[04:06:00] DJ_Necrogami: Fios = 15Mbit download 2Mbit upload firber Optic Internet
[04:06:00] Ashlar_: fiber to the premises
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[04:07:00] awstott: Up to 30 Mbps/5 Mbps $199.95
[04:07:00] awstott: I'll order that in an instant
[04:07:00] awstott: NOT
[04:07:00] DJ_Necrogami: lol
[04:07:00] DJ_Necrogami: im running 14Mbit down 3Mbit upload
[04:07:00] Tommck: I'd order it right now
[04:08:00] xanderp: would someone please clue me in as to what I need to do to get ivtv to compile the wm8775 and cx25840 modules for my pvr150?
[04:08:00] Ashlar_: well, being a vz employee, I can get the 15/2 for less than the 5/2 price
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[04:08:00] abarbaccia: anybody know where to extract a theme file to?
[04:08:00] DJ_Necrogami: <--- Verizon DSL Tech Support
[04:08:00] DJ_Necrogami: but Its not avaliable here in my area  :(
[04:09:00] Ashlar_: lol.. APSC?
[04:09:00] Ashlar_: NSC?
[04:09:00] DJ_Necrogami: Calltech
[04:09:00] Ashlar_: ahh.. I've been in NY doing RGS's with vRepair, Delphi, ENSC.. for enterprise iobi
[04:09:00] DJ_Necrogami: awesome man
[04:10:00] UncleBill: how can I convert a divx to mpeg2?
[04:10:00] xanderp: UncleBill is the name of a pet store where I live :)
[04:11:00] Tommck: I would probably google... umm.... divx mpeg2 convert.
[04:11:00] UncleBill: tell 'em I sent you and they'll give you a discount on iguanas
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[04:11:00] xanderp: SWEET!! (if only i wanted an iguana!)
[04:11:00] DJ_Necrogami: yea same here
[04:12:00] xanderp: Ummm
[04:12:00] UncleBill: thanks for nada, Tommck. anybody want to give me a hint? I'm looking for a command line option like transcode
[04:12:00] xanderp: "I work for Mr. Fandango" (I liked those commercials)
[04:13:00] Tommck: UncleBill – often times, topics that are so common are quicker found by googling, rather than being lazy
[04:13:00] xanderp: i can't find anyone discussing what triggers ivtv to compile the previously mentioned modules anywhere. any clues?
[04:14:00] UncleBill: anyone?
[04:14:00] xanderp: (wm8775 and cx25840)
[04:15:00] ** Tommck gets ready to say "I told you so" **
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[04:41:00] ulitz: I have recently reset up mythtv and I can't seem to get the ivtv modules loaded in /etc/modprobe.conf.. can anyone show me there config for a pvr250?
[04:42:00] ulitz: I followed tried whats on the ivtv wiki and jarods guide.. but it doesn't seem to work
[04:46:00] Krazylegz: Connection Speeds: Up to 7 Mbps* upstream and 768 kbps* upstream
[04:46:00] Krazylegz: ???
[04:55:00] travolta: ulitz, i have that in my /etc/modules.conf
[04:58:00] slide23_: How do i delete a capture card?
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[04:58:00] travolta: from mythtv-setup
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[04:59:00] slide23_: yea im in there, and im on the capture card section
[04:59:00] slide23_: but i dont see any delete card
[04:59:00] slide23_: ahh 'd'
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[05:00:00] slide23_: And whats the different between 'Television' and 'Composite' inputs?
[05:01:00] UncleBill: still looking for that modprobe.conf, ulitz?
[05:01:00] ulitz: travolta: what kernel you running? like 2.4?
[05:01:00] travolta: yea
[05:02:00] ulitz: when I have the add below line.. modprobe complains about it
[05:02:00] ulitz: UncleBill: yeah.. I could use yours 2
[05:03:00] travolta: i have a working 2.6 kernel with mythtv, one sec
[05:03:00] ulitz: my problem seems to be that modprobe doesn't initialize the drivers on boot.
[05:04:00] ulitz: what is the msp3400?
[05:04:00] travolta: for sound i think
[05:04:00] ulitz: yeah.. thought so
[05:04:00] UncleBill: ulitz, just posted it for you on pastebin.com
[05:04:00] ulitz: so I can skip that part in your modprobe.conf
[05:05:00] travolta: i think i had to use the msp3400 module from the ivtv source, and delete the one with 2.6 kernel
[05:05:00] ulitz: UncleBill: so you just need those two lines? the alias char..?
[05:06:00] ulitz: is that for alsa or is it seperate?
[05:06:00] UncleBill: believe that's it, ulitz. it's a working system
[05:07:00] ulitz: and do you have to run the command /sbin/modprobe ivtv anywhere?
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[05:07:00] ulitz: like in /etc/init.d
[05:07:00] travolta: as soon as you access /dev/vidoe, it should auto load ivtv module
[05:08:00] travolta: if your kernel is setup like that
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[05:08:00] UncleBill: I don't have anything doing that modprobe, ulitz.
[05:09:00] UncleBill: well, there is that line in the modprobe.conf I posted
[05:09:00] ulitz: which one?
[05:10:00] UncleBill: line 5
[05:10:00] ulitz: so can I modify that and just have install /sbin/modprobe ivtv;?
[05:11:00] UncleBill: hmmm. don't know i'm afraid
[05:11:00] ulitz: never knew the formating in modprobe.conf. with these --ignore-install and stuff
[05:11:00] ulitz: seems like under 2.6 they quit using add above or below
[05:12:00] ulitz: I would just copy it but i don't use lircd
[05:13:00] UncleBill: have you tried adding modprobe ivtv to rc.local or such?
[05:13:00] ulitz: just a script in /etc/init.d
[05:13:00] UncleBill: you shouldn't need it, but I'd fiddle
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[05:25:00] xanderp: what do i need to do to get ivtv to compile the wm8775 and cx25840 modules? I have two pvr150's and am running gentoo 2.6.11-r3, with ivtv 0.3.7a. Help Please!!!
[05:26:00] xanderp: is there something i am probably missing in my kernel options that is causing ivtv to not compile them?
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[06:51:00] slide: I have a pvr150, what 'Input' Should i use? Composite(0–3) or Tuner(0–1)
[06:54:00] awstott: depends on what you want ot capture from
[06:55:00] awstott: if you want ot capture tv I'd imagine it'd be the tuner
[06:55:00] slide: standard cable
[06:55:00] awstott: if you were capturing from a camcorder or something you'd use composite
[06:55:00] slide: Coaxil or whatever it is
[06:55:00] slide: thatd be tuner0 then?
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[06:57:00] GotD0t: yes slide
[06:57:00] GotD0t: tuner0
[06:58:00] slide: ok lets see if this works heh
[06:58:00] slide: hrm, ok so far im just getting a big black screen lol
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[07:00:00] slide: is "VIDOCGMBUF:: Invalid argument" normal?
[07:02:00] awstott: you're further than i've gotten slide
[07:02:00] awstott: hehe
[07:02:00] slide: heh
[07:02:00] slide: a black screen?
[07:02:00] awstott: I havn't even gotten that far yet
[07:02:00] Chutt: try telling it the right kind of card
[07:02:00] awstott: i'm cheating and installing knoppmyth
[07:03:00] slide: Chutt, huh?
[07:03:00] slide: teling what?
[07:03:00] Chutt: myth, obviously
[07:03:00] Chutt: you have it setup for a bttv card
[07:03:00] slide: /dev/v4l/video0 is bttv?
[07:03:00] slide: what is it for ivtv
[07:03:00] Chutt: no, it's not for bttv
[07:04:00] Chutt: when you ran the setup app, there was a configuration option that selects the kind of card
[07:04:00] slide: i dont see any bttv specific things in the config
[07:04:00] Chutt: you have it set as bttv
[07:04:00] slide: uhm i never saw that heh
[07:04:00] Chutt: yeah, then you're blind
[07:04:00] Chutt: in the capture card setup section
[07:04:00] Chutt: there's a 'card type' option.
[07:04:00] slide: its not in the "Capture Cards' section atleast
[07:05:00] Chutt: it sure as hell is
[07:05:00] slide: mine says "Standard V4L capture card"
[07:05:00] Chutt: is yours?
[07:05:00] slide: and there is no bttv option in sight
[07:05:00] slide: its a pvr150
[07:05:00] Chutt: that's what 'standard v4l capture card' is
[07:05:00] Chutt: ie, bttv
[07:05:00] slide: then, yes
[07:05:00] slide: oh
[07:05:00] Chutt: a pvr150 is an mpeg encoder card
[07:05:00] slide: well, they should say bttv then eh? heh
[07:06:00] slide: mpeg-2 encode card? it just tells me in the list a pvr250/350
[07:06:00] Chutt: no, the setup options assume you can read, and know what kind of hardware you have
[07:06:00] slide: well, the setup options assumes too much
[07:06:00] Chutt: ok, so you bought a pvr-150 board, without knowing what it does?
[07:06:00] slide: i bought it b/c 1) its what people recommended 2) it was cheaper then most the others
[07:06:00] slide: heh
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[07:06:00] Chutt: so you didn't bother looking at the box
[07:07:00] Chutt: or doing any research at all?
[07:07:00] Chutt: geez
[07:07:00] slide: I got a generic box with no support info in it
[07:07:00] Chutt: maybe i should dumb down things
[07:07:00] slide: not even a manual
[07:09:00] slide: ok, im still getting a black screen :(
[07:09:00] Chutt: you're getting a different error, though
[07:09:00] Chutt: unless, of course, you didn't bother restarting the backend
[07:10:00] slide: oh i did
[07:10:00] slide: the last error i got was Remote file timeout.
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[07:10:00] slide: but for what exactly im not sure
[07:11:00] Chutt: why would the last error be useful?
[07:11:00] Chutt: wouldn't you think the first one would me slightly more important?
[07:11:00] Chutt: just a guess
[07:12:00] slide: well, there is no differentiation between errors and warnings, so im just taking a guess at what the first 'error' is, seems to be 'Took more than 10 seconds to be allowed to read, aborting. Couldn't read file: ruf:.....'
[07:12:00] slide: rbuf rather
[07:12:00] Chutt: that's from the backend?
[07:12:00] slide: no, i get no info from the backend
[07:12:00] slide: that was from mythtv
[07:12:00] Chutt: sure you do
[07:13:00] slide: not in my mythbackend.log i dont
[07:13:00] slide: last entry is 'Starting up as the master server.'
[07:14:00] Chutt: why are you running the backend from a script if you don't have it working yet?
[07:14:00] slide: b/c thats how it was installed, "emerge mythtv"
[07:14:00] slide: heh
[07:14:00] slide: ok, now im running it in console
[07:15:00] slide: ah ok
[07:15:00] slide: 2005-08–01 00:15:10.168 ERROR opening file in ThreadedFileWriter.
[07:15:00] slide: /home/mythtv/recordings/ringbuf3.nuv: Permission denied
[07:16:00] slide: and then it crashed
[07:16:00] Chutt: no, then it exited
[07:16:00] slide: ah
[07:17:00] slide: ok, now its saying it cant read data from capture card
[07:17:00] Chutt: that's an ivtv problem
[07:17:00] slide: ok
[07:17:00] ** slide goes to read up on ivtv heh **
[07:17:00] Chutt: i'll assume you didn't do anything to check that it was working first, before trying myth?
[07:17:00] slide: of course not
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[07:18:00] poonj: hey guys...I'm kind of confused on how I can use the scan program to obtain the channels.conf for my dvb
[07:18:00] poonj: anyone here have experience with that?
[07:18:00] slide: but i dont really know what i can do to test it, since i only just installed it =\
[07:23:00] slide: hrm, the stuff that most of the help pages ive been reading say to do to see if ivtv is working, isnt working
[07:23:00] slide: i cant find much more help on it
[07:25:00] slide: Is it ok that /dev/video0 is a link to /dev/v4l/video0 ?
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[07:27:00] awstott: ut oh
[07:27:00] awstott: that can't be good
[07:27:00] awstott: I just tried to watch tv and my box rebooted
[07:27:00] awstott: went ot a black screen adn the rebooted
[07:28:00] slide: see, you can get to the black screen too! hehe
[07:28:00] awstott: I cheated and used knoppmyth tho
[07:28:00] slide: that like a package or something?
[07:29:00] awstott: it's a whole distro
[07:29:00] slide: ahh
[07:29:00] awstott: http://mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html
[07:30:00] slide: coo thanks :)
[07:32:00] awstott: oh oh oh
[07:32:00] awstott: static
[07:33:00] awstott: grrr
[07:33:00] awstott: then it rebooted again
[07:33:00] slide: arg, cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg gets me nothing
[07:33:00] mchou: slide: you dont say.....
[07:34:00] slide: mchou, thats what this help site is telling me to do to see if it works :(
[07:34:00] slide: Is that not right?
[07:35:00] mchou: of course it's right.
[07:35:00] mchou: you not doing it b4 myth is what's not right
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[07:35:00] mchou: sigh.....
[07:35:00] mchou: I'm SO confused.
[07:35:00] slide: before myth? like before i started myth (which part, front/back or what)
[07:36:00] mchou: like b4 you INSTALLED myth.
[07:36:00] slide: am i suppose to?
[07:36:00] mchou: verify ivtv is working b4hand
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[07:36:00] slide: what would that change exaclty? shouldnt that device work even after myth is installed?
[07:36:00] mchou: lol
[07:36:00] slide: well, actually, i had myth working with bttv beforehand with an old card
[07:37:00] slide: so now im trying to get it to work with this pvr150
[07:37:00] mchou: if the device didnt work, why would you expect myth to work?
[07:37:00] slide: mchou, im not using myth right now, im trying to get ivtv to work
[07:37:00] slide: myth isnt even running atm
[07:37:00] mchou: yeah, who's on first?
[07:37:00] slide: uhm, yea
[07:38:00] slide: so, you gonna actually help me? heh
[07:38:00] ** mchou curse gentoo lamers **
[07:38:00] slide: wah
[07:38:00] slide: you keep talking about myth, im not even using myth atm
[07:39:00] slide: i can install myth any time i want, before/after i verify ivtv, i dont think that would make a different
[07:39:00] slide: err difference
[07:39:00] slide: as im not even using myth atm, im trying to verify ivtv
[07:40:00] mchou: slide: there is no need to repeat yourself.
[07:40:00] slide: shrug
[07:44:00] Krazylegz: What do you NTSC guys use for a DisplaySize in your XF86Config?
[07:45:00] xris: 800x600
[07:45:00] xris: and something funky for the widescreen plasma at work
[07:45:00] Krazylegz: xris: That's your screen resolution, or your DisplaySize?
[07:45:00] xris: oh, res.
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[07:46:00] Krazylegz: I forgot to mention that I need this for a regular television set.
[07:46:00] xris: don't have a displaysize for my mythbox.
[07:46:00] xris: and the one at work is set to whatever `X -configure` detected
[07:46:00] Krazylegz: My config is a bit wider than it should be. I can move the mouse over the edge of the screen.
[07:46:00] Krazylegz: Alrighty. Thanks.
[07:47:00] xris: Krazylegz: I don't think that's the same thing.
[07:47:00] xris: you're dealing with overscan
[07:48:00] Krazylegz: OH.
[07:48:00] Krazylegz: So, I want to use underscan?
[07:48:00] xris: dunno. my sis drivers have a control panel to adjust that in a gui.
[07:49:00] Krazylegz: BOO!! GUI. Blah.
[07:49:00] xris: it's nice. spits out the x config and I just paste it in
[07:49:00] Krazylegz: I have an ATI 9100 builtin to the Pundit-R.
[07:50:00] Krazylegz: Not sure if it supports over/underscan. Let's find out.
[07:50:00] ** xris curses the -r and pets his nice original pundit. **
[07:50:00] Krazylegz: What's wrong with the R?
[07:50:00] Krazylegz: I haven't used the original.
[07:50:00] xris: ati is what's wrong.
[07:50:00] Krazylegz: Ah.
[07:50:00] xris: ati drivers and linux don't get along wello
[07:51:00] slide: hrm, so is it bttv i should be using? as i only see that ivtv supports 250/350
[07:51:00] xris: slide: what card?
[07:51:00] slide: pcv150
[07:51:00] slide: err pvr
[07:51:00] slide: lol
[07:51:00] xris: ivtv unstable tree
[07:51:00] xris: mine works great.
[07:51:00] slide: the 3.x?
[07:51:00] xris: yeah
[07:55:00] awstott: my ati 9000 work fine in linux
[07:56:00] xris: awstott: ati and linux is a PITA. possible to get working, but if you have anything other than a standard setup, it's a huge hassle.
[07:56:00] slide: PITA?
[07:56:00] slide: ah n/m lol
[07:57:00] awstott: lol
[08:01:00] Krazylegz: I just barely go over the edges, and only on the sides of the screen. Is that something I should solve with over/underscan?
[08:02:00] xris: Krazylegz: yes
[08:02:00] xris: understan
[08:02:00] xris: underscan, that is
[08:02:00] Krazylegz: I'll look into that more later, then.
[08:02:00] Krazylegz: At the moment, I want to figure out why the tv-in looks more like a 3:4 format than a 4:3...
[08:04:00] xris: ouch
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[08:04:00] Krazylegz: xris: Did you nick your finger whlie shaving your cat? :-)
[08:04:00] xris: wtf?
[08:05:00] slide: ok lets see, ivtv0.3.7 installed
[08:05:00] Krazylegz: I made that up. Pretty funny, if you have a cat.
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[08:13:00] Krazylegz: I'm not sure what to search for about this tv-in size issue. Any hints?
[08:14:00] slide: okay, finally got video (yay!), but its in black and white and all staticy ever like 4 seconds
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[08:15:00] slide: er i mean all staticy and pauses like every 4 seconds
[08:17:00] linux2: how do i use directdata? cause it needs a username and password and i can't figure it out
[08:17:00] xris: slide: try a different version of the driver. heh.
[08:18:00] slide: ligdfsg
[08:18:00] xris: it's sort of hit and miss with some of it.
[08:18:00] slide: lol
[08:18:00] slide: i should just give up lol
[08:18:00] xris: what port are you using?
[08:18:00] slide: port?
[08:18:00] xris: 0.3.6o works great with svideo
[08:18:00] xris: svideo vs composite vs rf
[08:19:00] slide: i believe tuner0
[08:19:00] slide: yea
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[08:23:00] Krazylegz: Do people still have to use the CK-ivtv stuff?
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[08:36:00] Krazylegz: Live tv looks pretty good here.
[08:36:00] Krazylegz: Sound is wonky, though.
[08:39:00] poonj: anyone here have dual PVR-150s?
[08:50:00] Krazylegz: I think I'm done for the night.
[08:50:00] Krazylegz: Thanks for the help guys, good times as usual.
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[08:59:00] Krazylegz: Yeah, I lied.
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[09:11:00] BMOC: hi
[09:11:00] Krazylegz: Yo.
[09:11:00] BMOC: anyone using nuv2cd?
[09:11:00] BMOC: Building VMGM-Menu...Creating dvd layout
[09:11:00] BMOC: Hey, something went wrong in this script! Check for error messages in the log.
[09:11:00] BMOC: The last command returned a Non-Zero Return-Code (1)
[09:11:00] BMOC: So I guess it's better to stop here and let you analyze the situation
[09:11:00] BMOC: Hope you'll find the error. ;-)
[09:11:00] BMOC: Finished DVDwizard with Error 08/01 02:10:17 AM
[09:11:00] BMOC: woops, sorry. i don't know where to look for the "log"
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[09:12:00] Krazylegz: Ah.
[09:12:00] Krazylegz: I presume that happens when you start nuv2cd?
[09:12:00] Krazylegz: I've never used it.
[09:12:00] BMOC: nuv2disc
[09:12:00] BMOC: i mean
[09:12:00] BMOC: no, near the end, aparently
[09:12:00] BMOC: apparently
[09:13:00] Krazylegz: So, it's running for a while, and then it exits unexpectedly?
[09:13:00] BMOC: well,l at that point
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[09:17:00] Krazylegz: You checked the obvious places?
[09:20:00] BMOC: huh?
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[09:22:00] DJ_Necrogami: ?
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[09:27:00] Krazylegz: BMOC: Poke around in /var/log .
[09:32:00] DJ_Necrogami: can anyone help me
[09:32:00] DJ_Necrogami: ive got myth installed from ubuntu Via Apt-get w/ Synaptic and mysql fails
[09:33:00] DJ_Necrogami: i need to reconfigure the mysql user and password for myth
[09:37:00] travolta: i dont have any experience with apt-get :/
[09:37:00] DJ_Necrogami: does anyone know where
[09:37:00] DJ_Necrogami: i can get the configs for mysql user/password/
[09:37:00] DJ_Necrogami: ?
[09:38:00] travolta: you want to know the root password for mysql ? google it , its like the first hit
[09:39:00] travolta: "mysql reset password"
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[09:41:00] DJ_Necrogami: no
[09:42:00] DJ_Necrogami: i need to know how to reset the password for mythtv login/password
[09:42:00] DJ_Necrogami: The Password it use's to login to mysql
[09:42:00] Krazylegz: Do you know SQL?
[09:42:00] DJ_Necrogami: yep
[09:43:00] DJ_Necrogami: but if i dont know the password for mythtv users in mysql
[09:43:00] Krazylegz: You can just do an update on the mysql.users table. Just use the PASSWORD('pass') function.
[09:43:00] Krazylegz: Oh. I thought you wanted to reset it. It's probably mythtv ?
[09:44:00] DJ_Necrogami: ?
[09:44:00] DJ_Necrogami: what is the password for the account?
[09:45:00] Krazylegz: The password is probably 'mythtv'.
[09:45:00] DJ_Necrogami: ok
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[09:50:00] DJ_Necrogami: thank you very much that fixed it
[09:52:00] DJ_Necrogami: whats the program for the mythtv backend
[09:52:00] Krazylegz: If you have it working properly, then you want to start it as a service.
[09:53:00] Krazylegz: Ugh.
[09:53:00] ** Krazylegz shows his Windows-ness **
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[09:55:00] DJ_Necrogami: lol
[09:55:00] DJ_Necrogami: does mythtv run on windows?!
[09:56:00] Krazylegz: No.
[09:56:00] Krazylegz: I just use Windows all day because we use PHP/IIS/MS SQL, etc.
[09:56:00] Atamido: OGM, IIS.
[09:57:00] Atamido: *evil*
[09:57:00] Krazylegz: I haven't been able to play with Linux for a while, until I started working on this Mythbox. Anyway, I said "service" instead of "daemon".
[09:57:00] Krazylegz: Indeed.
[09:57:00] DJ_Necrogami: necrogami@svr1:/etc/init.d$ /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend force-reload
[09:57:00] DJ_Necrogami: Restarting MythTV server: mythbackendNo /usr/bin/mythbackend found running; none killed.
[09:57:00] DJ_Necrogami: .
[09:57:00] DJ_Necrogami: start-stop-daemon: Unable to set gid to 115
[09:57:00] Krazylegz: I'm not sure that ISA is better, though.
[09:57:00] Krazylegz: Hmm.
[09:57:00] Krazylegz: Does a group with id 115 exist?
[09:57:00] Atamido: ISA is *uber evil*
[09:58:00] Krazylegz: Atamido: No! ISA is the solution to all of our problems!! :-)
[09:58:00] Atamido: Apache is great, except for it's braindead .conf design.
[09:58:00] DJ_Necrogami: donno
[09:58:00] DJ_Necrogami: how do i check
[09:59:00] DJ_Necrogami: mythtv has gid 115
[09:59:00] fweeee: Does anyone here run an Avermedia 771 DVB-T on Fedora Core 4? I'm been trying to get mine to work for days with no luck :(
[09:59:00] Krazylegz: Open /etc/group .
[09:59:00] Krazylegz: Okay, that's good.
[09:59:00] Atamido: I have Apache running about 15 virtual hosts, support for PHP and Perl, a webforum, and it has two .exe using a total of 24MB.
[10:00:00] Krazylegz: Apache 2?
[10:00:00] Atamido: Yeah.
[10:00:00] ** EL_Whistey 2 **
[10:00:00] DJ_Necrogami: Windows?
[10:00:00] DJ_Necrogami: thats common
[10:00:00] Atamido: Strange, I don't have IIS installed right now.
[10:00:00] DJ_Necrogami: mine always has 2 apache.exe's running in process's list
[10:01:00] Atamido: Oh, and total CPU time for both is 0.
[10:01:00] EL_Whistey: why would anyone run a network service under windows.
[10:01:00] Atamido: Errr...4 seconds.
[10:01:00] EL_Whistey: No, on second thoughts, don't answer.
[10:01:00] Atamido: Because I am running Windows?
[10:01:00] DJ_Necrogami: lmfao
[10:02:00] Atamido: Because it is non-critical?
[10:02:00] EL_Whistey: yeah, it rather begs the question, doesn't it.
[10:02:00] ** DJ_Necrogami only used windows cuz i could find port forwarding software for it **
[10:02:00] Atamido: Because it crashes less often than MythTV under Linux?  :P
[10:03:00] Atamido: Actually, I don't think Apache has ever died for me in the year that I've used it.
[10:03:00] Puuhis: DJ_Necrogami: ever heard about iptables?
[10:03:00] EL_Whistey: hardly anything ever crashes for me, ever.
[10:03:00] Atamido: Compared to MythTV, it's....
[10:04:00] EL_Whistey: evenso.
[10:04:00] DJ_Necrogami: yea
[10:04:00] EL_Whistey: and when mythtv crashes, it's restarted before I really notice.
[10:04:00] DJ_Necrogami: never used it enough to know about it
[10:04:00] Atamido: I had MySQL die on me for the first time a few days ago, but I don't think it was it's fault.
[10:05:00] Atamido: I think only Mythfrontend crashes for me.
[10:05:00] DJ_Necrogami: i cant get mythtv-backend to start
[10:06:00] Krazylegz: Check your log.
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[10:09:00] DJ_Necrogami: where would the log be>
[10:09:00] DJ_Necrogami: ?
[10:10:00] Krazylegz: /var/log/mythbackend.log or something like that.
[10:11:00] DJ_Necrogami: No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP.
[10:11:00] DJ_Necrogami: Please run setup on this machine and modify the first page
[10:11:00] DJ_Necrogami: of the general settings.
[10:11:00] Krazylegz: There ya go.
[10:11:00] DJ_Necrogami: where is setup?
[10:12:00] Krazylegz: mythtv-setup
[10:14:00] Puuhis: I read that overscan doesn't work with GF2? only with GF4 or newer, is this correct?
[10:14:00] Puuhis: my tv-out isn't filling tv screen properly
[10:14:00] Krazylegz: Is that what Google says? :-)
[10:15:00] Puuhis: some mailing-list answer, don't remember
[10:15:00] EL_Whistey: it doesn't work for a 6600
[10:15:00] Puuhis: but I've tried TVOverScan 0.0 – 1.0 = no efect
[10:15:00] Puuhis: effect
[10:15:00] Krazylegz: I can't figure out why Myth's Watch TV feature doesn't scale the picture properly. I have an ATI chipset, though.
[10:16:00] Puuhis: tried different aspect ratios? (press M for menu)
[10:16:00] Krazylegz: Hmm.
[10:17:00] adante: what do you mean by not scale it properly (hi again btw :)
[10:17:00] Krazylegz: NICE.
[10:17:00] Krazylegz: I had to change it to 16:9, which is odd since my television is 4:3.
[10:18:00] Puuhis: heh
[10:18:00] Puuhis: what resolution you're using to tv-out?
[10:18:00] Krazylegz: 800x600.
[10:18:00] Puuhis: same here
[10:18:00] Krazylegz: Myth looks fine, but watch tv is weird.
[10:18:00] Puuhis: must be ATI's feature :b
[10:19:00] Krazylegz: Must be. I also don't have sound at first when I use Watch TV.
[10:19:00] Krazylegz: If I skip back, then it works fine.
[10:19:00] Krazylegz: If I just do Watch TV, the sound goes in and out.
[10:22:00] Puuhis: Overscan is currently only available on GeForce4 or newer GPUs with either NVIDIA or Conexant TV encoders.
[10:22:00] Puuhis: :-(
[10:22:00] Krazylegz: What did you need it for?
[10:22:00] adante: i had that problem, turned out to be due to cpu contention
[10:22:00] Puuhis: black borders around tv picture..
[10:22:00] Puuhis: need to get those smaller
[10:23:00] Krazylegz: adante: It works fine if I skip back and then go back to realtime, though. Also, it's a 2.26Ghz Celeron D. Should be fine.
[10:23:00] adante: Puuhis: you mean for tv output in general?
[10:24:00] Puuhis: picture in CRT is fine, but TV has those borders around picture
[10:24:00] adante: Krazylegz: yeah, just saying i experienced the same thing
[10:24:00] Krazylegz: Ah.
[10:25:00] Krazylegz: Puuhis: My screen runs off just a bit on the left and right sides. I was looking into over/underscan too.
[10:25:00] Puuhis: there may be better support with ATI gpu's to scan functions
[10:26:00] DJ_Necrogami: i still cant get the backend started
[10:27:00] adante: what's the error now
[10:27:00] DJ_Necrogami: one sec
[10:27:00] DJ_Necrogami: im earsing the log
[10:28:00] Krazylegz: Can I fix my issue with a different resolution in X?
[10:29:00] Puuhis: mythtv has settings for gui resolution
[10:29:00] Puuhis: but those don't go over than X's resolution, you can only make gui smaller
[10:29:00] Krazylegz: It's an X problem, and I'd like to fix the X desktop as well.
[10:29:00] Krazylegz: Yeah, mine is too big.
[10:31:00] DJ_Necrogami: 2005-08–01 03:46:14.043 Unable to connect to database!
[10:31:00] DJ_Necrogami: 2005-08–01 03:46:14.046 Driver error was [1/1045]:
[10:31:00] DJ_Necrogami: QMYSQL3: Unable to connect
[10:31:00] DJ_Necrogami: Database error was:
[10:31:00] DJ_Necrogami: Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[10:31:00] DJ_Necrogami: Couldn't open database
[10:32:00] adante: changing res in X does alter the scan borders (ime anyway)
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[10:33:00] Puuhis: I tried 640x480 & 800x600 = no effect to borders..
[10:34:00] adante: DJ_Necrogami: what does mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg do?
[10:34:00] DJ_Necrogami: comes up w/ the mysql prompt
[10:35:00] adante: huh well that's baffling
[10:35:00] adante: and that's the pw set in mythtv-setup?
[10:35:00] DJ_Necrogami: how do i check the password
[10:36:00] Puuhis: DJ_Necrogami: you should read some how-to relating mythtv setup
[10:36:00] Puuhis: otherwise we're here helping you till next christmas
[10:36:00] DJ_Necrogami: i installed via apt-get
[10:38:00] adante: password is setup somewhere in mythtv-setup (coincidentally enough)
[10:38:00] DJ_Necrogami: checking now
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[10:39:00] DJ_Necrogami: im not finding it anywhere
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[10:40:00] Krazyleg1: Ooo, if he stays until Christmas, maybe he will buy us presents.
[10:40:00] DJ_Necrogami: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/865
[10:41:00] DJ_Necrogami: thats what i get
[10:41:00] DJ_Necrogami: errrrr
[10:41:00] DJ_Necrogami: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/866 try that
[10:41:00] Krazyleg1: Damn that Ubuntu "no root" thing.
[10:42:00] DJ_Necrogami: no
[10:42:00] DJ_Necrogami: ubuntu has root
[10:42:00] DJ_Necrogami: i login to root all the time
[10:42:00] DJ_Necrogami: sudo passwd root
[10:42:00] DJ_Necrogami: root is there
[10:42:00] DJ_Necrogami: just disabled
[10:42:00] DJ_Necrogami: change KDM/GDM to allow root desktop logion
[10:42:00] DJ_Necrogami: login
[10:43:00] ** DJ_Necrogami couldnt live w/out su **
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[10:44:00] Krazyleg1: Yeah, but I guess you're just supposed to sudo everything?
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[10:47:00] DJ_Necrogami: Krazylegz: What OS are you using?
[10:47:00] Krazylegz: Right now, KnoppMyth.
[10:47:00] DJ_Necrogami: knoppmyth?
[10:47:00] Krazylegz: Yeah.
[10:49:00] Krazylegz: Now it's really time for bed.
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[10:49:00] DJ_Necrogami: arg
[10:49:00] DJ_Necrogami: anyone else help?
[10:49:00] DJ_Necrogami: w/ the whole user problem
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[10:52:00] danpolt: can anybody tell me if there is a way to check if any frontends are watching recordings/livetv? (sorry bit of a dev question)
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[10:59:00] DJ_Necrogami: Boo @ Googling may become illegal in canada .. ~.~ http://www.globetechnology.com/servlet/story/ . . . /Technology/
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[15:00:00] laga: has anyone an idea why that would happen?
[15:01:00] laga: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root src 32 Aug 1 15:01 Makefile -> /ltsp-src/mythtv/mythtv/Makefile
[15:01:00] laga: that's way too um mrecursive ;)
[15:05:00] levon: is `pwd` == /ltsp-src/mythtv/mythtv ?
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[15:09:00] laga: levon: good question. let me see...
[15:09:00] laga: oh, many is still here ;)
[15:10:00] laga: LBE is driving me nuts. ;)
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[15:11:00] laga: levon: yep, it is the 'right' path.
[15:15:00] levon: then it indeed seems to be recursive. This cannot work ;-)
[15:15:00] laga: yep.
[15:15:00] laga: i've experienced this before. and oddly enough, it worked before with the same build script.
[15:19:00] laga: oh, yeah. *hacks the configure script*
[15:20:00] laga: the script think that mythtv is build in a different dir, for some reason
[15:20:00] laga: i really wish there was better documentation for this LBE stuff :/
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[15:43:00] XAD|onoff: mchou, thanks for the channel link but I was told there that no developer has been in there for months... anywhow there is already a patch out removing the same code as I did, so assume it's "safe"... ;-)
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[15:44:00] DCG: there a good place to get themes for mythtv from?
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[15:58:00] GeckoFiend: DCG you mean aside from the myth svn trunk?
[15:59:00] DCG: uhm, yea
[16:02:00] DCG: cause i'm having display issues with GANT not fitting on my screen
[16:02:00] DCG: and the others seem to be missing peices
[16:03:00] DCG: mainly gallery-ui.xml and some other misc ui peices
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[16:17:00] GeckoFiend: DCG anything in svn is only kept up to date there. There's no other download links for them.
[16:18:00] GeckoFiend: As for missing gallery UI, most themes don't override every -ui file
[16:18:00] DCG: ok
[16:19:00] DCG: wish i could get better speed out of my wireless here, 340KB/s is nowhere near good enough to stream with
[16:19:00] DCG: and i can't figure out why its that slow either
[16:20:00] fatmatt: 11b doesn't work well for me
[16:21:00] DCG: looks like i either get to update to pre-n (dont like that idea) or wire up the parts that need to be fast
[16:21:00] DCG: somehow i dont think i'm getting that 22mbit/s that dlink advertised.
[16:22:00] fatmatt: I don't think anyone does,
[16:22:00] laga: you get 11mbit/s at best ;)
[16:22:00] DCG: i've barely been getting 340KB/s to my myth boxes
[16:23:00] DCG: its strange though cause i've been able to pull down 480KB/s in the past from the internet, so why is it so slow just on my wifi?
[16:24:00] DCG: and its consistent 340KB/s no matter if i'm using SMB, NFS, HTTP, or FTP over the wireless
[16:25:00] DCG: the frontend (which is on the same wired switch with the backend) gets enough to keep it playing 2200kbit streams so i know the problem isnt there
[16:25:00] laga: i can use etherboot with my wlan card. too bad that 802.11b won't suffice for my setup, now i have to route some cat5 to me sleeping room
[16:25:00] DCG: guess its outside the scope of #mythtv-users thou
[16:26:00] DCG: laga: same here, but i get to run 2 drops, livingroom -> router, router -> bedroom
[16:26:00] laga: hehe
[16:26:00] fatmatt: DCG, its probably a bandwidth thing, maybe look for a bandwidth units converter and see what all the units mean, I'd be surprised if you were getting more than 5.5mbit on the dlink wireless
[16:27:00] DCG: fatmatt: i've got 6mbit cable and have pulled down upto 500ish KB/s
[16:27:00] laga: my DVB stream works perfectly well over 802.11b, but my pvr 250 stuff does not. *sigh*
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[16:28:00] fatmatt: I've got (theoretically) 10mbit cable, and pull down up to 650KB/s, so 300 on a 5.5 wireless sounds about right
[16:28:00] DCG: though with the garbage cisco card i have in the bedroom right now i'm down to showing 1152kb/s (115KB) on the tests, weird
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[16:29:00] DCG: still able to grab from the mythbackend at 340KB/s
[16:29:00] fatmatt: the dlink AP I have only does 22mbit with compatible dlink cards
[16:29:00] DCG: yea
[16:29:00] DCG: but going from the mythbackend to a smb server (maxtor drive enclosure) i'm getting 340KB/s there too
[16:29:00] fatmatt: this is wireless?
[16:29:00] DCG: yea
[16:30:00] fatmatt: whats 340KBsec in mbits?
[16:30:00] DCG: the drive enclosure and the mythbackend are on opposite sides of a pair of dlink AP's
[16:30:00] DCG: uhm, around 3400ish
[16:30:00] DCG: er 3.3mbits about
[16:31:00] DCG: only think i can thinkof is the dtim interval might need changing
[16:31:00] fatmatt: the wireless speeds stated are generally asynchronous, ie 11mbit = 5.5 in each direction,
[16:32:00] fatmatt: throw in a bit of overhead if you're using encryption and youre 3.3 is probably about right.. maybe
[16:32:00] DCG: hrm
[16:32:00] DCG: think i'm gonna spend the day in the basement or attic running some cat6
[16:34:00] DCG: would changing the basic rates have any effect?
[16:34:00] fatmatt: what do you mean by basic rates?
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[16:35:00] DCG|ZZz: argh
[16:37:00] DCG|ZZz: and every time i change a setting on my client mode ap it forgets the mac addresses of the clients behind it
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[16:37:00] fatmatt: lol
[16:38:00] DCG|ZZz: so i have to send a broadcast ping to get things going again
[16:39:00] fatmatt: yeah, I think mine does a soft reboot when you change settings
[16:40:00] fatmatt: have you tried it with encryption off? does the speed improve?
[16:40:00] DCG|ZZz: wow
[16:41:00] DCG|ZZz: i just did a test with dd if=/dev/zero of=/myth/video on the mythbackend (myth/video is a smb share on my maxtor mss)
[16:41:00] DCG|ZZz: 85KB/s
[16:42:00] DCG|ZZz: thats painful
[16:42:00] fatmatt: yup
[16:43:00] DCG|ZZz: though that looks like it was my fault for trying to use too large a buffer
[16:43:00] DCG|ZZz: running again with 8K buffer got me 353KB
[16:45:00] DCG|ZZz: still too slow to stream rtjpeg or decent quality mpeg4 streams
[16:46:00] XAD|onoff: ZZz, almost (best to be safe) every resource on the net writes that wireless is not ready for video... yet...
[16:47:00] DCG|ZZz: yea
[16:47:00] DCG|ZZz: stinks i can stream nasatv in better quality than i can stream my own mythtv streams :P
[16:48:00] XAD|onoff: if you are using regular 11g or 11g+ it's also pretty hard to keep the speed if you move to other rooms...
[16:50:00] XAD|onoff: you know that trjpeg is really tuff as it is not compressed in the time domain...
[16:50:00] DCG|ZZz: yea
[16:50:00] DCG|ZZz: its just a bunch of jpegs isnt it
[16:51:00] XAD|onoff: AFAIK
[16:51:00] DCG|ZZz: i'm tempted to look into it and develop a portable mythtv frontend for the psp
[16:51:00] DCG|ZZz: but thats a bit too much messing with large libs (codecs) than i care for
[16:52:00] laga: DCG: jochen kühner wants to do that, too
[16:52:00] DCG|ZZz: well i've got the network code and the display code
[16:52:00] DCG|ZZz: <- also goes by NHD, and ported VNC to the psp
[16:53:00] laga: cool
[16:53:00] ** laga did nothing that made him famous :) **
[16:53:00] DCG|ZZz: heh
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[16:53:00] DCG|ZZz: i've also managed to get some stuff into the linux kernel here and there
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[16:53:00] DCG: wow
[16:53:00] DCG: someone regged my name.
[16:54:00] DCG is now known as TheGren
[16:54:00] TheGren: though mythtv quickly confuses the heck out of me
[16:57:00] XAD|onoff: ?
[16:58:00] TheGren: i tried to figureout how to fix the problems with firewire in pre-.17 svn
[16:58:00] TheGren: i ended up putting off installing mythtv for a few months.
[16:59:00] TheGren: you wanna hear a quick horror story?
[16:59:00] TheGren: past couple days i've been setting up the mythtv stuff, my dad had 2 maxtor hdds burst into flames within 24 hours of eachother
[17:00:00] laga: into flames?
[17:00:00] TheGren: quite literally the motor controller on each decided to shoot 4" flames
[17:00:00] laga: nice
[17:00:00] laga: sounds like the BOFH refurbished them
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[17:02:00] TheGren: http://www.drivesavers.com/disaster_recovery/ . . . nt-Board.jpg thats literally what it looked like
[17:02:00] laga: ouch
[17:02:00] TheGren: on 2 different drives
[17:03:00] TheGren: note to self: who needs thermite when you have maxtor harddrives laying around?
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[17:11:00] TheGren: anyone have a XM plugin for mythtv yet?
[17:11:00] laga: XM?
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[17:11:00] TheGren: sattelite radio
[17:11:00] TheGren: you can also stream over the internet
[17:11:00] laga: oh, ok
[17:11:00] laga: dunno, sorry
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[17:20:00] TheGren: i'll have to see how xm does it and make a plugin i guess :)
[17:23:00] TheGren: someone made a plugin for xmbc :/
[17:23:00] Atamido: xbmc?
[17:23:00] TheGren: xbox media center
[17:23:00] TheGren: plugins for it are messy stuff programmed in python
[17:24:00] TheGren: it uses mms for streaming
[17:25:00] Atamido: Ah, I thought xmbc didn't look right.  ;)
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[17:31:00] TheGren: looks simple enough, login, get the session cookie, request the channel stream
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[17:56:00] linux2: hi can someone help me with this error...
[17:56:00] linux2: One of your capturecard entries does not have a hostname.
[17:56:00] linux2: Please run setup and confirm all of the capture cards.
[17:56:00] linux2: it happens when i try to run the backend
[17:56:00] linux2: and i don't know how to set a host name cause i don't see it anywhere
[17:57:00] laga: well.
[17:57:00] laga: run setup and make sure [confirm] that all capture cards are there, and that there is no capture card which shouldnt be there
[17:58:00] linux2: there is only one capture card
[17:58:00] laga: remove it and add it again
[17:58:00] linux2: and that is the only tv card i have
[17:58:00] linux2: i tried that three times and it still didn't help
[17:58:00] laga: umm. the seztup can drop all card information when starting it, have you tried that?
[17:59:00] linux2: yep
[17:59:00] linux2: there is only my one card in the card list
[18:01:00] laga: umm. well, time to dive into the database i think. look for a card that hasnt a hostname assigned to it
[18:01:00] linux2: how do i get into the database to look around?
[18:02:00] laga: umm, for starters, i recommend phpmyadmin. it's easy to set up
[18:02:00] laga: or mysqlcc
[18:02:00] laga: if you dont want to install apache
[18:03:00] linux2: where is the database located?
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[18:04:00] laga: linux2: you can't look directly at it, you need a client
[18:06:00] linux2: ok i downloaded phpmyadmin
[18:06:00] linux2: and extracted it
[18:06:00] linux2: now what?
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[18:10:00] laga: linux2: follow their documentation, this is beyond the scope of this channel
[18:11:00] linux2: ok thanks
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[18:23:00] linux2: laga: phpmyadmin requires apache
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[18:24:00] linux2: are there any that don't
[18:27:00] stoffel_: the mysql cli
[18:28:00] stoffel_: debian has a package mysql-navigator
[18:28:00] stoffel_: it's a qt program
[18:30:00] travolta: success! got mythfrontend running on xbox :)
[18:30:00] xris: :)
[18:31:00] stoffel_: now you'll have to show us how travolta dances
[18:31:00] travolta: 0-|-<
[18:31:00] travolta: 0-|-/
[18:31:00] travolta: 0-|-\
[18:31:00] xris: lol
[18:31:00] stoffel_: hehe
[18:32:00] whosit: what is the cheapest way to build a myth client box?
[18:32:00] EL_Whistey: i'm going to become rich and famous after i invent a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet
[18:32:00] linux2: are there any mysql clients for mandriva linux
[18:33:00] EL_Whistey: http://bash.org/?4281
[18:33:00] xris: whosit: you mean a frontend?
[18:33:00] xris: or frontend+backend?
[18:33:00] whosit: yea
[18:33:00] whosit: frontend.
[18:33:00] xris: probably xbox
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[18:43:00] laga: EL_Whistey: rotfl
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[19:04:00] TheGren: where do i set the record volume at for my backends?
[19:06:00] linux2: how do i use a remote backend?
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[19:06:00] linux2: would the backend have the tv-card in it and it would all come through the internet
[19:06:00] linux2: or does the frontend have the tvcard
[19:06:00] TheGren: backends do the recording
[19:07:00] TheGren: frontends do the playback
[19:07:00] linux2: well i wanted to run the backend and frontend on one comp
[19:07:00] TheGren: thats possible.
[19:07:00] laga: linux2: works fine
[19:08:00] linux2: but the backend doesn't work on the comp im on now because of that error earlier. so i figured i would have my server be my backend
[19:08:00] linux2: but the server seems to go away when i connect to it
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[19:10:00] Equilibre: folks.
[19:10:00] linux2: 2005-08–01 13:09:11.952 Connecting to backend server: 192.168.1.120:6543 (try 1of 5)
[19:10:00] linux2: Connection timed out.
[19:10:00] linux2: You probably should modify the Master Server settings
[19:10:00] linux2: in the setup program and set the proper IP address.
[19:10:00] linux2: i get that error
[19:10:00] linux2: but at first it connect and then it stops
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[19:11:00] linux2: http://rafb.net/paste/results/o2gokG69.html there is the full backend log
[19:12:00] linux2: can someone help me figure out what went wrong?
[19:13:00] laga: most people aren't here atm, i think, so better ask your question again later. read the documentation in the mean time and try to find out what's wrong!
[19:13:00] Baylink: Well, I might take a crack at it.
[19:13:00] Baylink: Lemme scrool. Wait one.
[19:14:00] Baylink: linux2: recap your problem?
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[19:14:00] Mrgoose: Guillemot 3D Prophet DDR-DVI (Geforce 256) 32mb of DDR SGRAM, TV-Out, DVI, and VGA. anyone know if the nvidia drivers will work with that?
[19:14:00] Baylink: Your backend setup is borken
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[19:15:00] linux2: Baylink: how can i fix it?
[19:16:00] laga: Mrgoose: they will.
[19:16:00] linux2: the tvcard is in this comp and this will be the front end
[19:16:00] rw`: linux2, first, make sure your card is working with tvtime.
[19:16:00] Mrgoose: laga: great cause i just bought one
[19:16:00] linux2: yep it works with that
[19:16:00] rw`: linux2, looks like your drivers ins't loaded.
[19:16:00] laga: Mrgoose: this card is helluva old
[19:16:00] Mrgoose: laga: yea i know, i dont care about 3d performance as long as it will run mythtv fine
[19:16:00] Mrgoose: do you think it will?
[19:16:00] Baylink: Either your drivers aren't loading, linux2, or you've specified the wrong device name in backend setup.
[19:17:00] linux2: rw`: what comp is the tv card suppose to be in? backend or frontend?
[19:17:00] rw`: linux2, try mythtv-setup fix your card config.
[19:17:00] fatmatt: linux2: have you tried using tvtime as the same user as mythtv is using?
[19:17:00] rw`: linux2, backend.
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[19:17:00] linux2: o ok there is my problem
[19:18:00] linux2: need to put the tvcard in the backend
[19:18:00] kormoc: laga, Mrgoose, the GeForce 256 is not supported by newer nvidia drivers iirc
[19:18:00] linux2: but i would like to run the backend on this comp as well as the frontend but get this error when trying to run the backend
[19:18:00] laga: Mrgoose: a geforce 4 mx or fx 5200 would have been more suitable for the job, at least for tv-out.
[19:18:00] laga: KraMer: really?
[19:18:00] Mrgoose: oh ok
[19:18:00] laga: kormoc i mean.
[19:18:00] linux2: 2005-08–01 13:17:58.592 New DB connection, total: 1
[19:18:00] linux2: Running as a slave backend.
[19:18:00] linux2: One of your capturecard entries does not have a hostname.
[19:18:00] linux2: Please run setup and confirm all of the capture cards.
[19:18:00] laga: this card doesn't support overscan anyway, iirc
[19:19:00] rw`: linux2, "Please run setup and confirm all of the capture cards."
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[19:19:00] fatmatt: linux2: if you've only got the one card then you may as well put it in the master backend
[19:20:00] kormoc: laga, from the nvidia readme, anything lower then a GeForce 3 is unsupported now
[19:20:00] linux2: rw`: i only have one capture card
[19:20:00] rw`: linux2, run setup and fix it.
[19:20:00] kormoc: laga, ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7667/README.txt Appendix A
[19:20:00] linux2: rw`: i have run setup and tried to fix it but nothing works
[19:21:00] rw`: what means "nothing works"?
[19:21:00] linux2: rw`: i even cleared the card and channel setting and restarted and got the same error with the backend
[19:21:00] rw`: does this machine you're trying to run the backend has a capture card?
[19:21:00] fatmatt: don't you need to have at least 1 card in the master backend?
[19:22:00] laga: kormoc: i'm glad that i've sold the geforce 256 and the geforce 2 then
[19:22:00] laga: darn, i still have a geforce 2 mx!
[19:22:00] laga: :'/
[19:22:00] kormoc: fatmatt, nope
[19:23:00] linux2: rw`: the comp i am on now has a capture card and i would like to run the backend and frontend on the same comp. but when i kept gettting the same error about the cards not having hostnames i figured i would try to run the backend on my server but would rather have the backend and frontend on the same comp and the comp i am on now
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[19:24:00] rw`: linux2, can you run tvtime is this machine?
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[19:24:00] linux2: rw`: yea
[19:25:00] linux2: yes*
[19:25:00] chris: Question: What's so difficult about a 2-part movie? I have my video settings set to display the first part in the browse list... and I've unchecked the second parts "display while browsing" checkbox... but the second part still shows up when I'm browsing. Any ideas how to fix this?
[19:25:00] rw`: linux2, you are in the right way. Fix your setup config and you will be fine.
[19:25:00] rw`: backend is searching for a device (ex: /dev/video0) that doesn't exist.
[19:26:00] rw`: make it search for the right device in the setup.
[19:26:00] Mrgoose: laga: what about Geforce2 GTS 32MB (DDR SGRAM) AGP Video Card (OEM) VisionTek with DVI & S-Video
[19:27:00] laga: Mrgoose: please read the conversation above...
[19:27:00] Mrgoose: i see
[19:27:00] linux2: o sorry i haven't been being very specific. the comp i am on now is not the comp with that error i posted earlier. and i know how to fix that and that is to put in a tv card. but i would rather not use my server as the backend and use the comp i am on now as the backend and the frontend but i get this error.....
[19:27:00] linux2: 2005-08–01 13:27:04.235 New DB connection, total: 2
[19:27:00] linux2: One of your capturecard entries does not have a hostname.
[19:27:00] linux2: Please run setup and confirm all of the capture cards.
[19:27:00] linux2: and thats it
[19:29:00] fatmatt: wasn;t there an error about the backend on that machine being a slave backend?
[19:30:00] linux2: yeah but i fixed that
[19:30:00] ** laga recommends dropping the database and starting over. **
[19:30:00] chris: Does anybody here use MythTV to watch their existing videos? Such as providing the IMDB number etc...? I got that far, but I'm stuck on howto show only 1 entry for a 2 part movie in the browse videos menu.
[19:30:00] fatmatt: yah I agree
[19:31:00] linux2: laga: how do i drop the database?
[19:31:00] TheGren: anyone know about my backend volume problem?
[19:32:00] chris: TheGren: My backend volume works with alsa & my emu10K module just right under gentoo.
[19:33:00] TheGren: chris: but does mythbackend set the volume or rely on alsamixer/aumix to setup the volume
[19:33:00] chris: TheGren: But I didn't catch the earlier part of the convo where you described your problem.
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[19:33:00] TheGren: cause my recordings are really quiet
[19:33:00] chris: TheGren: I've used the checkbox to have mythtv control the volume.
[19:33:00] fatmatt: linux2: something like, mysqladmin ... then "drop mythconverg;"
[19:33:00] TheGren: i've seen that for the frontend, but not the backend
[19:33:00] TheGren: (my fronend has no volume control, xbox)
[19:34:00] TheGren: i dont see the option under capture cards, inputs,
[19:34:00] TheGren: and somehow the linein keeps getting set to 0 on my backend
[19:34:00] laga: linux2: drop mythconcerg;
[19:34:00] laga: converg*, yeah
[19:34:00] chris: The Gren: Well... I also have a frontend-only I compiled over here I can compare with for you. Have you told "myth-setup" to do anything? If you compiled the front-end only then use myth-setup instead of mythtvsetup
[19:35:00] linux2: error: 'Can't drop database 'mythconcerg'; database doesn't exist'
[19:35:00] TheGren: i didnt find the option in myth-setup
[19:35:00] chris: TheGren: Also, it would be utilities/setup -> setup -> general -> audio.... do it there
[19:35:00] chris: TheGren: from the front-end
[19:36:00] fatmatt: TheGren: check out aumix or alsamix man pages, you can just set a volume with that in one of the startup scripts, I haven't had much luck with the myth volujme controls
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[19:36:00] chris: chris: I set my to use internal volume controls... and I set the master & pcm mix to 100.
[19:37:00] linux2: is there anyway to find out what the names of the databases i have
[19:37:00] chris: linux2: mysql -u root -ppassword "show databases;"
[19:37:00] chris: do the show databases; once you're logged in to mysql
[19:39:00] linux2: ERROR 1049 (42000): Unknown database 'show databases;'
[19:40:00] chris: weird.
[19:40:00] chris: are you running gentoo?
[19:40:00] chris: you need to run the mysql-config ebuild
[19:41:00] linux2: no im running mandriva but i will give that a try
[19:41:00] TheGren: chris: think i got it now by adding aumix to rc defaults
[19:41:00] linux2: [root@ will]# mysql -u root -password "show databases;"
[19:41:00] linux2: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[19:41:00] chris: TheGren: cool... what's aumix? do you use alsa?
[19:41:00] chris: linux2: It's no -passwrd
[19:41:00] chris: it's not -password
[19:42:00] chris: it is.
[19:42:00] chris: mysql -uroot -ppassword
[19:42:00] TheGren: chris: one of the longest running mixer projects
[19:42:00] chris: TheGren: are you on x86 or sun hardware?
[19:42:00] TheGren: x86
[19:42:00] Krazylegz: Whoa, Myth on SPARC. That sounds like fun.
[19:42:00] linux2: [root@ will]# mysql -uroot -ppassword "show databases;"
[19:42:00] linux2: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[19:42:00] TheGren: i keep away from the sparcs/mips/alpha stuff if i can.
[19:43:00] chris: TheGren: Does aumix have better features than alsa?
[19:43:00] Krazylegz: Why is that?
[19:43:00] TheGren: uhm, aumix is just a volume control, you still need drivers (alsa / oss)
[19:43:00] chris: Krazylegz: If I could afford alpha chips I'd buy those... best processors ever made.
[19:43:00] TheGren: hehe
[19:43:00] TheGren: chris: i've got some vaxen, next best thing :)
[19:44:00] Krazylegz: Haha.
[19:44:00] chris: TheGren: Well... then if your alsa module is started in the system init... then do you also have alsamixer?
[19:44:00] TheGren: dont think i have alsamixer
[19:44:00] TheGren: hrm, i do
[19:44:00] kormoc: linux2, replace the -ppassword with -p<YOUR PASSWORD HERE>
[19:45:00] linux2: Enter password:
[19:45:00] linux2: ERROR 1049 (42000): Unknown database 'show databases;'
[19:45:00] chris: So... about the correct video settings... someobody figure this out for me please... I have movies that are in 2-parts... which is no problem.... I've added them to mythtv... and given the database the right IMDB number... the problem I'm having is that I can't make the second part of the video disappear from the video browse list. What should be the correct way to set this up?
[19:45:00] fatmatt: linux2: don't put anything after the password,
[19:45:00] TheGren: though it doesnt appear to be getting called by init.d/alsa
[19:45:00] Krazylegz: linux2: Do mysql -uroot -ppassword and then do show databases; at the prompt.
[19:45:00] fatmatt: you need to get to a mysql> prompt
[19:46:00] kormoc: chris, my understanding is you can't
[19:46:00] chris: linux2: then maybe you're connecting to the wrong mysql server. use.
[19:46:00] linux2: mysql> show databases
[19:46:00] linux2: ->
[19:46:00] linux2: ->
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[19:46:00] chris: mysql -h local.example.com -uroot -p<password>
[19:46:00] GreyFoxx: linux2: mysql commands terminate with a ; it's waiting for you to type that
[19:46:00] linux2: -> databases;
[19:46:00] linux2: ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual thatcorresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'databases' at line 2
[19:47:00] GreyFoxx: so what you essentiall typed was "show databases databases;"
[19:47:00] chris: linux2: what's your server version?
[19:47:00] linux2: ok i got it
[19:47:00] linux2: thanks
[19:47:00] linux2: | mysql |
[19:47:00] linux2: | mythconverg |
[19:47:00] linux2: | test |
[19:47:00] linux2: | tmp
[19:47:00] GreyFoxx: I would suggest you go read up on the mysql.com site for basic syntax
[19:48:00] chris: GreyFoxx: I really think the mysql reference manual is great.
[19:48:00] GreyFoxx: It is
[19:48:00] chris: linux2: also go get some mysql pdfs...
[19:48:00] fatmatt: linux2: now "drop mythconverg;"
[19:48:00] fatmatt: will let you start from scratch
[19:48:00] linux2: ok i dropped it
[19:49:00] linux2: now rerun setup and hope it works
[19:49:00] fatmatt: then "exit;" to get back to shell
[19:49:00] chris: good luck!
[19:49:00] GreyFoxx: no, you need to create it before running mythtv-setup
[19:49:00] GreyFoxx: the setup app will filling in the tables and such, but you need to recreate the blank database;
[19:49:00] linux2: Database error was:
[19:49:00] linux2: Unknown database 'mythconverg'
[19:49:00] linux2: 2005-08–01 13:49:05.405 Failed to init MythContext, exiting.
[19:49:00] GreyFoxx: exactly
[19:49:00] chris: kormoc: about those video settings. are the features broken? or am I reading the menus wrong?
[19:49:00] linux2: that happens when i run setup
[19:50:00] chris: linux2: paste the line you ran
[19:50:00] GreyFoxx: linux2: You have to create a blank database again
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[19:50:00] fatmatt: back into mysql, then "create mythconverg;"
[19:51:00] GreyFoxx: create database mythconverg;
[19:51:00] chris: GreyFoxx: is that all?
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[19:51:00] fatmatt: thats it, how do you set user permissions?
[19:51:00] GreyFoxx: yes
[19:51:00] chris: fatmatt: mysql user permissions are covered in the mysql reference manual
[19:51:00] GreyFoxx: Dropping the database does not get rid of the existing users/permissions
[19:51:00] fatmatt: ahhh, okay
[19:51:00] GreyFoxx: so if he had them before all he has to do is create the database again
[19:51:00] GreyFoxx: then -setup will create the tables and default info
[19:52:00] chris: fatmatt: do a google for "mysql user monty" and you'll find the imaginary user monty getting his permissions set.
[19:52:00] chris: in the mysql reference manual
[19:53:00] fatmatt: I was doing a database course at uni when I 1st set up myth, I forget it all now.
[19:55:00] fatmatt: is anyone using one of those HTPC remote controls? I'm thinking of getting one
[19:55:00] kormoc: chris, which features are you talking bout?
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[19:56:00] linux2: ok i redid everything and still get this error
[19:57:00] linux2: [will@ ~]$ mythbackend
[19:57:00] linux2: 2005-08–01 13:56:02.041 New DB connection, total: 1
[19:57:00] linux2: Starting up as the master server.
[19:57:00] linux2: 2005-08–01 13:56:02.130 New DB connection, total: 2
[19:57:00] linux2: One of your capturecard entries does not have a hostname.
[19:57:00] linux2: Please run setup and confirm all of the capture cards.
[19:57:00] GreyFoxx: linux2: Ummmmmmmm
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[19:57:00] GreyFoxx: type "hostname"
[19:57:00] GreyFoxx: and tell me the output
[19:57:00] linux2: its gets a blank output
[19:57:00] GreyFoxx: *sigh*
[19:58:00] chris: linux2: or if you compiled your own kernel... uname -a should show your hostname
[19:58:00] GreyFoxx: well, then of course your entry has no hostname since your SYSTEM has no hostname
[19:58:00] GreyFoxx: notice your command prompt will@BLANK
[19:58:00] linux2: that doesn't make sense it should be localhost
[19:58:00] linux2: let me reset my hostname to get localhost back. brb
[19:58:00] kormoc: linux2, localhost is a alias to your hostname
[19:59:00] kormoc: well, actually
[19:59:00] kormoc: localhost is a alias for 127.0.0.1
[19:59:00] kormoc: your hostname is a alias for your external ip address, 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x or whatever
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[19:59:00] joss: hi how to generate this database and stuff?
[20:00:00] GreyFoxx: joss: Read the documentation on www.mythtv.org
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[20:00:00] chris: joss: if you were lucky enough to use gentoo... after you emerge mythtv the command to build the database will be shown to your console if you emerge with verbose turned on.
[20:00:00] joss: GreyFoxx: yeah founf it
[20:01:00] joss: chris: mythfilldatabase
[20:01:00] kormoc: chris, if you emerge it with verbose turned off, it still displays it. Verbose only shows useflags.
[20:02:00] joss: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.2
[20:02:00] chris: kormoc: thanks :) BTW... what's up with the video settings? are those features I mentioned earlier broken...?
[20:02:00] joss: this is what i wanted;)
[20:02:00] GreyFoxx: chris: What settings are you referring to ?
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[20:03:00] kormoc: ChanServ, which settings?
[20:03:00] kormoc: erm, that was to chris
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[20:04:00] chris: kormox/GreyFoxx: I have movies that are in multiple parts... so I setup the video settings in the media settings setup to only show the first part of the movie... by unchecking the second part of the movies "browseable" checkbox... but it doesn't work for me.
[20:05:00] chris: In the list of videos... I want to see the number of movies... not the number of files & directories.
[20:05:00] kormoc: ooh, hrm. I never even noticed those settings in there.
[20:05:00] GreyFoxx: I pretty much only use the Video List, not the gallery or browser. But I've got a few setup to not show in the gallery and they worked last time I checked
[20:07:00] chris: basically I have the video.library exported as an nfs share on another machine... it's shared with -rw-r------ for the movies... and the directory is shared as drwxr-x---..... as for the movie posters... that directory is exported as drwxrwx---
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[20:07:00] chris: So I use groups and would like to rule out my nfs / groups configuration as the source of the problem.
[20:07:00] linux2: ok now i have a host name but a new error but i think i can fix it
[20:08:00] GreyFoxx: chris: The filepermissions wouldn't affect it
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[20:10:00] chris: GreyFoxx/kormox: how about vlc? is there an integrated vlc stream viewer menu for mythtv???
[20:10:00] linux2: and now im back at the same error
[20:11:00] linux2: [will@localhost ~]$ mythbackend
[20:11:00] linux2: 2005-08–01 14:09:51.943 New DB connection, total: 1
[20:11:00] linux2: Running as a slave backend.
[20:11:00] linux2: One of your capturecard entries does not have a hostname.
[20:11:00] linux2: Please run setup and confirm all of the capture cards.
[20:11:00] joss: mythtv latest versions dont still support mouse right?
[20:11:00] chris: linux2: you need to tell your my.cnf file not to bind to an ip address probably.
[20:11:00] GreyFoxx: chris: Not that I'm aware of.
[20:11:00] GreyFoxx: But I've seen people mention various methods of accessing streamed video but I didn't pay much attention to it at the time
[20:12:00] joss: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)
[20:12:00] joss: still that error here..
[20:12:00] joss: allthough i grabted privs. and did that database
[20:12:00] GreyFoxx: joss: It will likely never support a mouse. It's intentionally not used
[20:13:00] GreyFoxx: jobs: You are using the root mysql user to access the myth database ?
[20:13:00] linux2: i still don't know how to fix this....
[20:13:00] linux2: [will@localhost ~]$ mythbackend
[20:13:00] linux2: 2005-08–01 14:12:16.248 New DB connection, total: 1
[20:13:00] linux2: Starting up as the master server.
[20:13:00] linux2: 2005-08–01 14:12:16.349 New DB connection, total: 2
[20:13:00] linux2: One of your capturecard entries does not have a hostname.
[20:13:00] linux2: Please run setup and confirm all of the capture cards.
[20:13:00] linux2: i have run setup at least 50 times now and restarted it got a host name why won't it work
[20:14:00] chris: linux2 did you setup your capture cards? and mythtvsetup -> general?
[20:14:00] beavis: what's wrong with my mythweb? http://84.58.27.244/mythweb/program_listing.php
[20:14:00] GreyFoxx: linux2: you still need to deal with the entry that had no hostname. Now that you have your hostname set on your box when you run it then a hostname should be added to the entry
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[20:17:00] linux2: GreyFoxx: nope i still get the error
[20:17:00] joss: GreyFoxx: why that database error not using password?
[20:17:00] linux2: should i restart from scratch again now that i have a hostname
[20:18:00] joss: GreyFoxx: asking cause i cant run mythbackend here..
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[20:18:00] GreyFoxx: linux2: I would
[20:18:00] joss: GreyFoxx: privs should be ok, but ...weird
[20:18:00] fatmatt: linux2: do you have a hostname apart from localhost set?
[20:18:00] linux2: fatmatt: no
[20:19:00] linux2: [root@localhost will]# hostname
[20:19:00] linux2: localhost
[20:19:00] GreyFoxx: joss: Let's backup. Have you already run mythtv-setup to configure your video sources and capture cards ?
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[20:20:00] joss: mythsetup
[20:20:00] joss: Unable to read configuration file mysql.txt
[20:20:00] joss: Unable to connect to database!
[20:20:00] joss: Driver error was [1/1045]:
[20:20:00] joss: QMYSQL3: Unable to connect
[20:20:00] joss: Database error was:
[20:20:00] joss: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)
[20:20:00] fatmatt: if it still doesn't work, maybe try putting in a hostname as well,
[20:20:00] GreyFoxx: joss: What version are you running ?
[20:21:00] joss: dont know...
[20:21:00] joss: missing qpkg entry here:D
[20:21:00] joss: my gentoo dist is quite old here:)
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[20:22:00] GreyFoxx: normally mythsetup will jump up with a configuration screen if it can't find mysql.txt asking for the database connection info
[20:22:00] joss: have updated some things, but surely not mythtv for long time;)
[20:22:00] joss: so ill go for an update perhaps:D
[20:22:00] GreyFoxx: sounds like a plan
[20:22:00] linux2: ok i got the backend started. now to see if it works with the frontend
[20:26:00] fatmatt: actually, having localhost as a hostname seems like a bad idea, I run a frontend on my laptop and the entries for it in the database are differentiated from the combined backend/frontend by the hostname
[20:26:00] chris: joss: the state of ~x86 is good... mythtv should be excellent for you.
[20:27:00] chris: joss: under gentoo I'm saying.... that's my distro of choice for mythtv
[20:28:00] chris: fatmatt: if your laptop is the frontend... and your database is somewhere else... you need to grant mythtv@laptop.example.com or whatever the fqdn of the laptop is on your local network to your mysql database.... that's the same user permissions stuff agin.
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[20:33:00] linux2: ok now mytv started and worked but i don't have any of the tv guide show listing and the picture is all static mostly and it is still running even though i closed the frontend so i can still hear the sound
[20:34:00] chris: linux2: you need to add tuner0 and tuner1 or whatever your connections are and set them up to your video sources... I use zap2it.
[20:35:00] linux2: chris: yeah i set that up and it isn't working
[20:36:00] linux2: and i ran mythfilldatabase
[20:37:00] chris: linux2: user/password need to be set... and you need to have zap2it configured for your cable tv provider's selections... or directv etc.
[20:37:00] chris: what does mythfilldatabase tell you?
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[20:38:00] linux2: http://rafb.net/paste/results/5KLpVt60.html
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[20:41:00] linux2: brb tell me if you find anything on it
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[20:43:00] chris: linux2: where's line 23+++ where it says it connects to the master backend? what happens when you run mythfilldatabase on the master backend server ?
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[21:12:00] Salec: anyone here use a geforce video output to tv or their pvr350 video out??
[21:12:00] Salec: i'm trying to decide which one to use for myth
[21:12:00] kormoc: the only point in geting a 350 over a 250/150 is for the hardware tvout :P
[21:13:00] Salec: is the tvout good?
[21:13:00] Salec: i mean does it work well with myth?
[21:13:00] kormoc: in theory, yup
[21:13:00] Salec: anyone use it?
[21:13:00] Krazylegz: Well, getting the menus to work was a pain before. Also, if you wanted to play something other than MPEG2 content, you were kinda screwed.
[21:14:00] Krazylegz: You have to use ivtv-fb, if I remember correctly.
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[21:14:00] Salec: nah this is really just for tv video anyways
[21:15:00] Salec: i had it setup last year to use ivtv-fb
[21:15:00] Salec: but there was an issue where no XFree would blank out the regular screen anyways
[21:19:00] linux2: ok i got the tv listing to work but the picture quality is really bad and choppy but looks fine in tvtime so i know its not bad reception. anyone know how to fix this?
[21:23:00] GreyFoxx: What kind of capture card? What kind of Processor? Are both mythbackend and mythfrontend running on the same machine ?
[21:25:00] linux2: the capture card is a bttv card. aver media. its a budget card. and i have a pentium 3 1.0ghz processor and the backend and frontend are on the same comp
[21:25:00] GreyFoxx: well, processor wise it's pretty close to the bubble, but is dma enabled for your drive?
[21:26:00] linux2: i don't know
[21:26:00] linux2: im not trying to record now i just want to see if i can watch tv
[21:26:00] linux2: but the picture quality is bad
[21:27:00] GreyFoxx: The system encodes and streams livetv to/from the harddrive as well as during recordings
[21:27:00] GreyFoxx: so you need to ensure that dma to the drive is enabled, otherwise it wont be able to read/write the data fast enough
[21:28:00] linux2: how do i check that it is enabled?
[21:28:00] linux2: or how do i enable it?
[21:29:00] GreyFoxx: to check try "hdparm /dev/hda" assumoing hda is the drive it's being written to
[21:29:00] Salec: grr ivtv-fb isn't working
[21:29:00] Salec: it's missing ivtvdev or something
[21:30:00] Filip^: Salec: don't do it. Anything other than plain recordings playback looks like shit. For example: no opengl acceleration on games, no fast playback of downloaded videos
[21:30:00] linux2: bash: hdparm: command not found
[21:30:00] GreyFoxx: Filip^: Actually with the added yuv/xv support to ythe latest versions of the drivers playback of non mpeg2 content is much better
[21:30:00] GreyFoxx: linux2: you gotta be root
[21:30:00] Filip^: Really?
[21:30:00] GreyFoxx: yes
[21:30:00] linux2: using_dma = 1 (on)
[21:31:00] Filip^: is not having a separate graphics adapter a real option?
[21:31:00] GreyFoxx: Filip^: your pc will liekly want a video card of some sort, but the new xv support makes it much easier to use the 350 for most all output
[21:32:00] GreyFoxx: linux2: I'd check your recording profile and see what bitrare/resolutions and encoding type you are using.
[21:32:00] Salec: Filip^ is it then possibly to have my nvidia geforce 3 output to composite video and regular video then?
[21:32:00] linux2: ok let me check. but where is the static coming from?
[21:32:00] Salec: I want myth to run on my tv while I can still access the console on the monitor
[21:33:00] GreyFoxx: According to the docs 1Ghz is barely on the bubble for a software encoding/played back stream
[21:33:00] Filip^: Salec: yes, but it seems GreyFoxx 's knowloedge is more up-to-date then mine
[21:33:00] GreyFoxx: linux2: I can only guess it's not tuning properly to the channel
[21:33:00] Filip^: linux2: the bad image quality you're talking about: is it static as if the TV is not correctly tuned?
[21:34:00] Filip^: Salec: do you want my xorg.conf file? I have a PVR350, but I use the TVout of my Geforce
[21:34:00] Salec: sure send it my way
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[21:36:00] Filip^: afk, i hope you get the file, otherwise send a mail to F.S.vandenBergh@sterrenbos.demon.nl
[21:36:00] Filip^: dammit, forgot the spamtrap. Just imagine @ was 'at', ok?
[21:37:00] Salec: k
[21:37:00] linux2: Filip^: yeah the picture quality is bad and the sound is just static
[21:37:00] linux2: but i can kinda see the picture
[21:37:00] GreyFoxx: then it's not tuned properly
[21:37:00] GreyFoxx: You in north america
[21:37:00] GreyFoxx: ?
[21:38:00] Salec: welp I have it displaying to my tv
[21:38:00] Salec: but as soon as I start X
[21:38:00] Salec: my lcd monitor blanks
[21:38:00] Salec: and just the tv displays
[21:38:00] Salec: is there anyway to have both?
[21:40:00] linux2: GreyFoxx: yeah i got it somehow the region was set wrong but i fixed it
[21:42:00] Salec: greyfoxx: for ivtv, should I use the stable 0.2.0 release or unstable 0.3.x?
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[21:43:00] fryfrog: what is anyone's opinion on using an gforce 6200TC for possible HDTV output?
[21:45:00] linux2: ok now how do i fix the video being choppy when it shows the title of the station and get the audio to be in sync
[21:46:00] GreyFoxx: linux2: You go read the documentation from start to finish off mythtv.org
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[21:46:00] GreyFoxx: Salec: I don't use a 350 so I couldn't say. I';m not sure if 0.3.x is required for the new ivtv x stuff or not
[21:47:00] fryfrog: no one has used a 6200 on myth in here maybe?
[21:47:00] Salec: ok
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[21:51:00] Korban: Hi
[21:51:00] Korban: I just added a second PVR-250 and now when I go into mythsetup neither card has any inputs showing.
[21:52:00] Korban: Any ideas?
[21:52:00] fryfrog: Korban: I have 3x pvr250s, so it works :)
[21:53:00] Korban: If I leave it blank and come back it defaults to "Television" (which is no good)
[21:53:00] fryfrog: did you check dmesg to see if its all detected good?
[21:53:00] Korban: well, I know both cards "work" because I can cat /dev/v4l/video? > somefile and play it ok.
[21:54:00] Korban: Ohh, wait
[21:54:00] Korban: Couldn't open /dev/v4l/video1 to probe its inputs.
[21:54:00] Korban: Couldn't open /dev/v4l/video0 to probe its inputs.
[21:56:00] Korban: Grr, and for some reason the X11 connect through ssh only works some of the time.
[21:59:00] linux2: ok i read the documentation and it still can't play live tv
[21:59:00] linux2: the sound is off by a lot
[21:59:00] fryfrog: did you *just* read the docs or did you actually do anything it suggested?
[21:59:00] fryfrog: i'm gonna guess you have a bttv card and you haven't muted your line input
[22:00:00] fryfrog: and set it to the "capture" device
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[22:02:00] Korban: OK, it's all working now :)
[22:02:00] fryfrog: Korban: rar, what was the problem?
[22:02:00] Korban: Except the second 250 is twice as loud as the first, but I can play with that :)
[22:02:00] fryfrog: thats odd
[22:02:00] linux2: fryfrog: i have a bttv card
[22:02:00] fryfrog: awsome
[22:02:00] linux2: and i get no sound with the line input muted
[22:03:00] Korban: fryfrog: Permissions problem, silly me ;)
[22:03:00] fryfrog: so now you know how to fix it
[22:03:00] fryfrog: linux2: you have to make it the "captur" device
[22:03:00] fryfrog: linux2: i use alsamixer and press the <space bar> while i have line in selected
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[22:03:00] fryfrog: linux2: but you may have another way of doing it, like goofing around with one of the "sliders" that is not really a slider but is a selector
[22:03:00] Korban: linux2: if the sound is off by a lot you are probably listening to live audio, you need to set the capture line and then mute it.
[22:03:00] fryfrog: or something
[22:04:00] fryfrog: anyone have a PSU brand preference?
[22:04:00] linux2: Korban: how do i do that? is it in the setup?
[22:04:00] fryfrog: CHRIST
[22:04:00] fryfrog: can you even read?
[22:04:00] Korban: linux2: If you're using alsa then use alsamixer
[22:04:00] linux2: ok im in alsa mixer
[22:05:00] Korban: find the line in input, press space bar to select it then press m to mute it.
[22:05:00] linux2: ok its muted
[22:05:00] linux2: now what?
[22:06:00] fryfrog: SPACE BAR
[22:06:00] fryfrog: to set it to captur device
[22:06:00] fryfrog: for the ... 5th time?
[22:06:00] Korban: Try watching TV now
[22:06:00] Korban: If that doesn't work, make sure you have all the cables in the right places.
[22:06:00] linux2: well now it is in mono
[22:07:00] linux2: i think i only have a mono phono cable that connects from the card
[22:07:00] Korban: OK, I had that problem once ...
[22:07:00] Korban: Select CD player (or any other input) then select Line In again
[22:07:00] Korban: that fixed it
[22:07:00] Korban: for me anyway
[22:09:00] linux2: now i have no sound in mythtv
[22:09:00] Korban: Did you select Line In again?
[22:09:00] linux2: yeah
[22:10:00] Korban: Cables all in the right place?
[22:11:00] linux2: ok it works but i think im going ot use the mic input for sound cause that will make the mono come out of both speakers
[22:11:00] linux2: thanks
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[22:33:00] Salec: hmm
[22:34:00] Salec: now i'm having an error in which ivtvdev does not exist
[22:34:00] Salec: but yet i can't use fbdev
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[22:57:00] Salec: anyone else get the problem of having a black bar at the top of the screen?
[22:58:00] Krazylegz: How big of a bar?
[22:58:00] Salec: pretty thick
[22:58:00] Krazylegz: Nope.
[22:58:00] Salec: it goes away as soon as I make any actions
[23:00:00] Salec: i think it has something to do with ivtvfb
[23:00:00] Salec: and mythtv not handling alpha properly
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[23:01:00] shunter: can anyone tell me what would cause my mythtv make to fail with "../../libs/libavcodec/libmythavcodec-0.18.1.so: undefined reference to `postProcess_C'" ?
[23:01:00] jonK: do you mean other than an undefined reference to 'postProcess_C' ?
[23:02:00] shunter: jonK, i'm asking why this is happening
[23:02:00] jonK: I'm being to literal then
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[23:18:00] charlesv: http://www.netaffilia.com/ad/electronics/frys . . . 9/11603.html
[23:18:00] shunter: well, if anyone else runs across this problem i've found a fix for it at: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94696
[23:21:00] Chutt: i like how the gentoo people never submit patches back to me
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[23:30:00] kormoc: Chutt, the comments in the bug page says they sent it upstream (to the dev list likly) are you sure it just wasn't overlooked?
[23:31:00] Chutt: absolutely positive
[23:31:00] kormoc: huh
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[23:54:00] shunter: Chutt, hopefully you can get what you need from the bug posting and the attached patch.
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[23:55:00] Chutt: i can, obviously
[23:56:00] Chutt: it's just rather dumb that they never send me any simple patches like that
[23:56:00] shunter: Chutt, chill, I was just trying to help ;)
[23:56:00] Chutt: oh, it's not your fault
[23:58:00] shunter: Chutt, Yeah, I do agree it was rather stupid on their part for not sending you the patch. Adios.
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