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    datetime:  2010-12-04 03:24:26 (UTC)
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Details:
    datetime:  2010-12-04 03:24:26 (UTC)
    errornum:  2
  error type:  Warning
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Wednesday, July 27th, 2005, 00:07 UTC
[00:07:00] metallikop: ideas?
[00:07:00] Randall64: Combine some holidays to save decorating costs.
[00:07:00] metallikop: good idea
[00:08:00] metallikop: how about any ideas referring to my problem?
[00:08:00] Randall64: Do I have to come up with _everything_?
[00:09:00] metallikop: only if I ask you to come up with _everything_... otherwise I'll be satisfied with an answer to this _one_ question.
[00:09:00] Randall64: heh
[00:09:00] Randall64: Hi Randall,
[00:09:00] Randall64: Yes, I'll send both to you.
[00:10:00] Randall64: DFI rocks!
[00:10:00] Randall64: kind of
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[00:12:00] metallikop: ok, where can I get help then?
[00:12:00] metallikop: if the official support channel is nothing but witty responses
[00:12:00] Randall64: Oh crap, this is official?
[00:12:00] Randall64: Will it go on my record?
[00:12:00] metallikop: i'll let it pass, this once
[00:12:00] laga: *snicker*
[00:13:00] Randall64: You realize I'm the only guy unidle atm, and I don't have a pvr card.
[00:13:00] laga: metallikop: why don'tya give us more input? like meaningful error messages?
[00:13:00] metallikop: pastebin?
[00:13:00] laga: sounds good
[00:13:00] metallikop: is there one for this chan?
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[00:14:00] metallikop: http://pastebin.arslinux.com/2152
[00:15:00] Randall64: heh, did you forget to configure your encoders?
[00:15:00] metallikop: yep
[00:15:00] laga: Randall64: no he didn't
[00:16:00] metallikop: MPEG-2 Encoders
[00:16:00] laga: metallikop: go back to the setup. and configure your tv-card properly.
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[00:16:00] metallikop: i wish i knew how I set it up improperly firstly
[00:16:00] laga: meaning: chose mpeg2 hardware encoders instead of v4l card
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[00:17:00] Randall64: You mean the setup program doesn't probe and make intelligent choices the first time?
[00:17:00] ** Randall64 giggles **
[00:17:00] Randall64: I'm feeling a bit giddy today.
[00:18:00] ** laga polishes the trout **
[00:18:00] metallikop: Anyone know the "Stream Type" for a PVR-350?
[00:18:00] laga: metallikop: you mean the TS and Ps stuff?
[00:18:00] metallikop: right
[00:19:00] metallikop: And everything in my Recording Profiles is set to either MPEG2 or MPEG4
[00:19:00] laga: i use DVD special
[00:19:00] laga: and i did not talk about your recording profile. i was talking about the setup, as in mythtv-setup
[00:20:00] metallikop: Video device is set to /dev/video0
[00:20:00] metallikop: Default input is Tuner 0
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[00:21:00] EL_Whistey: Moop
[00:21:00] Randall64: poop?
[00:21:00] Randall64: crunchy poop!
[00:21:00] Randall64: or would you prefer chewy?
[00:21:00] laga: disgusting
[00:22:00] EL_Whistey: I have decided that trying to access 1000 songs using an IRC is bound to be slow and cumbersome.
[00:22:00] metallikop: laga: should that be correct for a PVR350?
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[00:22:00] kormoc: EL_Whistey, irc?
[00:23:00] EL_Whistey: mythtv, and my massive pirate booty of modern music.
[00:23:00] Randall64: Since irc doesn't do audio, I'm inclined to agree.
[00:23:00] EL_Whistey: err, IRC, bah. RC.
[00:23:00] EL_Whistey: remote control.
[00:23:00] laga: metallikop: sounds good to me. but set the card type to 'mpeg hardware encoder'
[00:23:00] kormoc: EL_Whistey, ahh, makes more sense :)
[00:24:00] laga: shit, the epg grabber for grmany seems to be broken.
[00:24:00] princess: does mythtv only use mplayer for video playback, or can it use something else, like xine?
[00:24:00] metallikop: MPEG-2 Encoder Card (PVR-250 PVR-350) <-- That one?
[00:24:00] GreyFoxx: \prince: Configurable to any you want
[00:24:00] Randall64: princess: You can assign the video player ...
[00:24:00] GreyFoxx: or use the internal one
[00:24:00] laga: princess: mythtv uses it very own player. mythvideo and mythvideo, however, call external players.
[00:24:00] laga: metallikop: yeah!
[00:24:00] princess: okay, cheers
[00:24:00] laga: metallikop: congrats! you got it right at the fifth time!
[00:25:00] laga: SCNR ;)
[00:25:00] metallikop: laga: that's what it was set to :(
[00:26:00] laga: metallikop: ok, that's bad then.
[00:26:00] metallikop: indeed
[00:27:00] laga: metallikop: umm. try dropping the information about the cards – mythtv-setup asks you when starting
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[00:27:00] metallikop: k
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[00:28:00] MrSpiffy: dudes – minimyth diskless is really friggin hard!
[00:29:00] MrSpiffy: pxeboot syslinux
[00:29:00] MrSpiffy: arg!
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[00:32:00] GreyFoxx: I should sit down and do up a diskless myth walkthrough. I really need to setup a wiki or something and start writing up all the stuff I keep meaning to write
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[00:33:00] LasseL: please do!
[00:34:00] MrSpiffy: please!
[00:34:00] MrSpiffy: man
[00:34:00] LasseL: i am not impressed with the state of mythtv documentation
[00:34:00] MrSpiffy: I have the hardware on order
[00:34:00] Krazylegz: Just change the URL of the #mythtv-users log to wiki.beirdo.ca or whatever.
[00:34:00] MrSpiffy: my thinking was to run it as a diskless client which led me to mini myth which led me to pxelinux which led me to syslinux
[00:35:00] MrSpiffy: there must be an easier way
[00:35:00] LasseL: they are quite friendly over at mythtv-users, i give you that
[00:35:00] Krazylegz: Isn't that where you are?
[00:35:00] laga: *yawn*
[00:35:00] MrSpiffy: like putting a laptop hard disk and installing fc2 on it@
[00:35:00] LasseL: hehe
[00:35:00] laga: i am currently preparing some stuff for my own diskless frontend project, but it will be based on www.ltsp.org
[00:35:00] LasseL: i thought i was in #ubuntu
[00:35:00] ** MrSpiffy tosses peanut m&m's into laga's open mouth **
[00:35:00] GreyFoxx: MrSpiffy: Diskless frontends are quite convienient
[00:35:00] MrSpiffy: GreyFoxx, indeed
[00:35:00] laga: yummy, M&m's!
[00:36:00] MrSpiffy: GreyFoxx, how did you do it?
[00:36:00] MrSpiffy: I have a fedora 2 server as my backend
[00:36:00] GreyFoxx: simple etherboot floppy, dhcp, tftp and nfs :)
[00:36:00] EL_Whistey: mythtv ought to provide something like this: http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/
[00:36:00] MrSpiffy: it's a screamer
[00:37:00] GreyFoxx: they boot and load everything from the fileserver/backend in the basement
[00:37:00] kormoc: EL_Whistey, EL_Whistey ought to code something like that;
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[00:37:00] EL_Whistey: kormoc, we've had the discussion about scripting, I think.
[00:37:00] MrSpiffy: the mini-tx has lan boot support
[00:37:00] MrSpiffy: I have dhcpd running
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[00:37:00] MrSpiffy: I have tctpd installed (not configures)
[00:38:00] MrSpiffy: I have nfs up and running also
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[00:38:00] EL_Whistey: kormoc, I'm unsure whether you are aware of the existence of a fully worked solution to the problem of entering text from a limited interface – dasher is one.
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[00:39:00] MrSpiffy: GreyFoxx, so how is a diskless client work without a floppy?
[00:40:00] kormoc: EL_Whistey, I honestly perfer my palms way of allowing the job dial to enter text
[00:40:00] kormoc: *jog
[00:40:00] EL_Whistey: kormoc, as a RC? Do palms have the IR range now?
[00:40:00] kormoc: sure do
[00:41:00] kormoc: well, the high ir power sony ones do
[00:41:00] GreyFoxx: MrSpiffy: I've never bothered to setup one without a floppy or a CF card. PXE looks simple enough though
[00:41:00] GreyFoxx: to me diskless means no harddrive, not completely without a boot disk :)
[00:41:00] ** MrSpiffy goes back to the pxe site **
[00:42:00] ** laga goes to bed, night. **
[00:44:00] EL_Whistey: kormoc, btw, you really don't need to be so defensive. If you're ever looking for a way to provide predictive text entry for mythtv, dasher is a possibility.
[00:44:00] ** kormoc raises a eyebrow **
[00:44:00] kormoc: defensive?
[00:44:00] ** kormoc blinks **
[00:44:00] EL_Whistey: Yah.
[00:44:00] MrSpiffy: ok the pxe site blows
[00:44:00] MrSpiffy: here's a good tutorial
[00:44:00] MrSpiffy: http://dev.brantleyonline.com/wiki/index.php/ . . . E%29_Booting
[00:44:00] kormoc: EL_Whistey, huh?
[00:46:00] EL_Whistey: kormoc, man, did you know about dasher? Can you not see the possible utility of the thing to mythtv? What I got from your riposte was like 'STFU about things myth might need, unless you are prepared to code them yourself.'
[00:46:00] EL_Whistey: Whether or not that was your intent.
[00:47:00] kormoc: huh, I was just making the nomal laudable joke I normally make, and I looked at dasher and said, wow, but I perfer my palm and said as much...
[00:47:00] EL_Whistey: Oh. Ok. Local style. My misunderstanding.
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[00:48:00] metallikop: Anyone know what this means? IVTV_IOC_GET_FB: Invalid argument
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[01:17:00] etnoY: hello all
[01:17:00] etnoY: I am having problems populating my channels database with mythfilldatabase
[01:17:00] etnoY: and I get an error after xmltv output ends:
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[01:18:00] etnoY: ------------------ End of XMLTV output ------------------
[01:18:00] etnoY: Error in 122:47: letter is expected
[01:18:00] etnoY: that is the only thing I get
[01:18:00] etnoY: I have never been able to populate my database, and I am using tv_grab_se_swedb (Im from sweden)
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[01:21:00] etnoY: I have already started going deep and running strace, but I cannot extract any information
[01:23:00] EL_Whistey: Jeez, you shouldn't need to use strace to debug this.
[01:24:00] EL_Whistey: isn't the tv_grab stuff part of xmltv? You ought to be able to see if you get a valid looking xml document by hand, no?
[01:24:00] etnoY: EL_Whistey: I am fully confident of that
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[01:24:00] etnoY: EL_Whistey: I get a large XML dump by running it manually
[01:25:00] EL_Whistey: I should note, btw, I still haven't gotten tv_grab_au to work, so it's the blind leading the blind here.
[01:25:00] etnoY: there seems to be an error _after_ xmltv here
[01:26:00] Moulinex: Does anyone know is there available mythtv frontend(python) for xbox media center?
[01:26:00] EL_Whistey: python?
[01:27:00] Moulinex: El_Whistey: python script for xbox media center
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[01:28:00] Moulinex: El_Whistey: i just found it! here... http://www.visi.com/~erl/
[01:29:00] EL_Whistey: Hey, cool
[01:30:00] etnoY: no idea with my stupid error?
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[01:33:00] Moulinex: El_Whistey: http://sourceforge.net/projects/xbmcmythtv/
[01:35:00] CanadaBoy: Moulinex: so it it a full mythtv fronend via xbmc ?
[01:36:00] Moulinex: CanadaBoy: I haven't test it yet.. sound good
[01:37:00] CanadaBoy: i wonder how slow/fast it will be i heard xboxmyth was a little laggy
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[01:43:00] vegbox: Can anyone help me see why the tvtuner is not being loaded when i run modprobe ivtv on a PVR150?
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[02:03:00] riddlebox: hello, has anyone gotten mythtv working with Mandriva LE2005?
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[02:13:00] vegbox: Anyone here get a pvr150 to work in gentoo?
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[02:16:00] abarbaccia: vegbox, i bet you dont have your alias definitions loaded correctly – whats the error message?
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[02:19:00] vegbox: I keep getting this error ivtv: Failed to load module tuner, anyone know how to fix that on a pvr 150?
[02:26:00] abarbaccia: vegbox, its in one of your config files – did you put alias definitions into the proper places?
[02:26:00] vegbox: yeah
[02:26:00] vegbox: i put it in /etc/modules.d/ivtv
[02:27:00] abarbaccia: do you have tuner.ko
[02:28:00] abarbaccia: and did you remove the other module it said it might interfere with when you installed ivtv?
[02:28:00] vegbox: umm
[02:28:00] vegbox: it compiled a tuner.ko
[02:28:00] vegbox: but i am not aware of this other module
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[02:30:00] vegbox: brb
[02:30:00] vegbox: gonna try something
[02:30:00] vegbox: need to restart
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[02:33:00] vegbox2: Yeah I am still getting some errors
[02:34:00] vegbox2: ivtv: i2c client id: 0x02 not found!
[02:34:00] vegbox2: tuner: Unknown parameter `type'
[02:34:00] vegbox2: ivtv: Failed to load module tuner
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[02:55:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: how go the cards?
[02:56:00] kormoc: still nothing yet, I need to post to the ivtv mailing list. Lately, life has been... busy.
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[02:58:00] vegtv: That didnt work, i need help
[02:58:00] vegtv: lol
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[03:27:00] pucky: anyone know what this means?
[03:27:00] pucky: tveeprom: tuner = <unknown> (idx = 99, type = 4)
[03:27:00] vegeetz: How do i set my tuner type with a PVR 150?
[03:27:00] vegeetz: pucky you gotta set a type
[03:27:00] pucky: with a PVR 150
[03:27:00] pucky: lol
[03:27:00] vegeetz: like 35 through 55
[03:27:00] vegeetz: its 50
[03:27:00] vegeetz: but i dont know how to set it
[03:27:00] pucky: hey vegeetz
[03:28:00] pucky: I think we have the same issue
[03:29:00] vegeetz: yup
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[03:29:00] pucky: I think it's an option that you pass when loading the module
[03:29:00] pucky: But that's what I'm trying to figure out
[03:29:00] pucky: I think I need 47
[03:30:00] vegeetz: well
[03:30:00] vegeetz: when i pass it
[03:30:00] vegeetz: it gives me a voodo error
[03:30:00] vegeetz: saying tuner.ko does not recognize that argument
[03:30:00] pucky: how are you passing it
[03:30:00] pucky: Option tuner = 47?
[03:31:00] vegeetz: option tuner type = xx
[03:31:00] pucky: what distro
[03:31:00] vegeetz: gentoo
[03:33:00] pucky: have you checked out the install of ivtv at http://www.abarbaccia.com/
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[03:36:00] vegeetz: dunno
[03:36:00] vegeetz: nothing abuot pvt
[03:38:00] vegeetz: man
[03:38:00] vegeetz: screw it
[03:38:00] vegeetz: im going back to fedora core
[03:38:00] vegeetz: :(
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[03:38:00] pucky: that's what I'm on
[03:39:00] vegeetz: fedora core takes like 20 minutes for me to set up
[03:39:00] vegeetz: i wanted to try to do this on gentoo
[03:39:00] vegeetz: but damn its like voodoo magic
[03:40:00] pucky: lol
[03:41:00] vegeetz: bah this is bukkake
[03:42:00] pucky: so let me ask you a question then
[03:42:00] pucky: regarding fedora
[03:43:00] pucky: how do I load ivtv in /etc/modprobe.conf
[03:43:00] pucky: while setting the tuner
[03:43:00] vegeetz: you dont need to set it in fedora
[03:43:00] vegeetz: it should just pick it up
[03:44:00] pucky: well I'm getting an issue with ivtv not knowing it's tuner
[03:44:00] pucky: and I want to set it
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[03:54:00] vegeetz: man im going back to fedora
[03:54:00] vegeetz: core this is too much
[03:59:00] xris: vegeetz: that's not a surprising reaction from a fedora user... one of the main reasons I've never even bothered to try gentoo.
[03:59:00] xris: ubuntu, maybe....
[04:00:00] opello: lol
[04:00:00] opello: my gentoo mythtv box was up in 2 days, assembled hardware and fully installed and working with the pvr-500 (pundit, not -r)
[04:02:00] vegeetz: dang
[04:02:00] vegeetz: how did you do it
[04:02:00] vegeetz: im still battling
[04:02:00] vegeetz: gentoo right now
[04:02:00] vegeetz: but nothing i am doing works
[04:02:00] opello: really? i guess the gentoo install is easy (just follow the guide) if your hardware is pretty linux friendly
[04:03:00] vegeetz: yeah
[04:03:00] vegeetz: except the pvr 150
[04:03:00] vegeetz: everything else works great
[04:03:00] opello: heh, there's apparently quite a few versions of that
[04:03:00] opello: i used ivtv-0.3.2n after all was said and done, and that's where i'm still at until the backported support becomes more stable
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[04:04:00] vegeetz: man
[04:04:00] vegeetz: !!
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[04:05:00] CCFL_Man: well hello :P
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[04:07:00] raju: Hey everyone
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[04:10:00] CCFL_Man: i want to build a backend server, i want to have a cable tuner card, video/audio capture card, dbs card, and hdtv card, all in one system that could be doing recording on all 4 at one time, will this be possible or practical?
[04:12:00] opello: sticking it all in should be. the only problem i could see is disk i/o not liking you
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[04:12:00] CCFL_Man: i was going to use a motherboard with an intel chipset
[04:13:00] CCFL_Man: so i'm hoping it won't be a problem
[04:14:00] vegeetz: man
[04:14:00] vegeetz: anyone here use a pvr150
[04:14:00] vegeetz: with gentoo?
[04:18:00] opello: what's the problem?
[04:19:00] vegeetz: its not loading up the tuner type
[04:19:00] vegeetz: for some reason
[04:19:00] vegeetz: suppose to be 50
[04:19:00] vegeetz: i believe
[04:19:00] opello: did you build the module yourself?
[04:19:00] vegeetz: yeah
[04:20:00] vegeetz: i used 3.2r20
[04:20:00] vegeetz: i think
[04:20:00] vegeetz: for ivtv
[04:21:00] opello: i ended up aliasing mine in /etc/modules.d/ivtv then modules-update
[04:21:00] CCFL_Man: wonder if i should wait to get a new air2pc
[04:21:00] CCFL_Man: air2pc is free of encryption
[04:21:00] opello: vegeetz: so that i could be sure i was loading the right ones
[04:21:00] vegeetz: hmmm
[04:21:00] vegeetz: i did that too
[04:21:00] vegeetz: but it gives me
[04:21:00] vegeetz: an error
[04:22:00] opello: what error?
[04:23:00] vegeetz: something aobut
[04:23:00] vegeetz: an overflow
[04:24:00] vegeetz: bah
[04:24:00] vegeetz: back to fedora core
[04:24:00] vegeetz: this is too lame
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[04:27:00] CCFL_Man: think my xbox would be a good frontend?
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[04:42:00] kgbudz: lately
[04:42:00] kgbudz: my myth has been crashing a lot
[04:42:00] kgbudz: i cant figure it out
[04:42:00] kgbudz: the thing used to run pretty stable
[04:43:00] kgbudz: now my backend server keeps on freezing
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[04:43:00] mchou: POS western Digital.
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[04:45:00] mchou: I can believe I paid close to $100 for this crappy Western Digital drive
[04:46:00] CCFL_Man: so anyone playing around with dvb in the US?
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[04:47:00] mchou: lol, what's that mean?
[04:47:00] mchou: dvb as in driver model, or reception?
[04:47:00] mchou: like atsc cards use dvb driver model
[04:48:00] mchou: but that's not dvb reception :)
[04:48:00] mchou: CCFL_Man: or you just hacking satellite?
[04:49:00] Beirdo: good time to plead the 5th
[04:49:00] Beirdo: don't even ask such a dumb question
[04:49:00] mchou: Beirdo: you referring to me or CCFL_Man ? :)
[04:50:00] CCFL_Man: mchou: no, that'll be a pita, i just want fta
[04:50:00] kgbudz: ya, i usually stay away from both western digital and maxtor
[04:50:00] mchou: fucking western digital did a number on my ass.
[04:50:00] mchou: fuckers.
[04:51:00] mchou: never buy western digital crap.
[04:51:00] mchou: I wonder how many drive manufacturers print individualized labels on their drives.
[04:51:00] CCFL_Man: Beirdo: i'm talking about FTA
[04:52:00] CCFL_Man: Beirdo: i want DW TV
[04:52:00] kgbudz: mchou, drives crashing is a reality
[04:52:00] mchou: my drives LBA sector is less than the published spec.
[04:52:00] kgbudz: i expect it to happen to each and every one of my drives
[04:52:00] mchou: kgbudz: no, my drive did not crash.
[04:52:00] mchou: I'm pissed about something else.
[04:52:00] kgbudz: whats that?
[04:53:00] mchou: kgbudz: [19:52:20] <mchou> my drives LBA sector is less than the published spec.
[04:53:00] CCFL_Man: too bad there is no directv pc card
[04:53:00] mchou: they fucking put a host protected area on it to map out bad sectors (b4 it was ever used, that is)
[04:54:00] Beirdo: hah, like they'd ever provide that, CCFL_Man
[04:54:00] mchou: kgbudz: I was too dumb to check against specs at the time I bought it 3 yrs ago.
[04:55:00] mchou: the capacity was close, so I thought everything was A-OK.
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[04:55:00] CCFL_Man: Beirdo: problem is that i can only use my directivo for directv only
[04:56:00] mchou: CCFL_Man: lol.
[04:56:00] CCFL_Man: :P
[04:57:00] mchou: is the directivo supposed to be able to record anything else?
[04:57:00] CCFL_Man: Beirdo: i was even tempted to pick apart an old directv receiver, which i had access to the mpeg video and audio streams, or even the directv transport stream
[04:57:00] mchou: kgbudz: so you have seagates?
[04:57:00] CCFL_Man: used address and data lines
[04:58:00] CCFL_Man: mchou: for mythtv it's bad :P
[04:58:00] kgbudz: i have like 1 of every drive
[04:58:00] mchou: CCFL_Man: what's bad for myth?
[04:58:00] kgbudz: between me and my roommates 3 servers
[04:58:00] kgbudz: we have about 2.5 tb
[04:59:00] kgbudz: all myth
[04:59:00] mchou: kgbudz: one of every manufacturer?
[04:59:00] kgbudz: well
[04:59:00] kgbudz: not sure exactly
[04:59:00] kgbudz: but i know we have wd, maxtor, seagate, ibm, hitachi
[04:59:00] kgbudz: etc
[04:59:00] mchou: kgbudz: you have hitachi, by any chance?
[04:59:00] kgbudz: the wd and maxtor usually go out 1st
[05:00:00] mchou: kgbudz: I've never used hitachi.
[05:00:00] kgbudz: ya, but i cant tell you any details about it
[05:00:00] mchou: they used to be IBM deathstars.
[05:00:00] kgbudz: some of my friends are raid junkies
[05:00:00] kgbudz: they say seagate is good
[05:00:00] mchou: but there are some very tempting deals on hitachi.
[05:00:00] anonuser: anyone here have a successful freebsd setup of MythTV?
[05:00:00] kgbudz: ya, ibms arent good
[05:00:00] CCFL_Man: Beirdo: problem was that i still needed to pick apart the transport stream and have my card decrypt it, but i'd have to write that all in software or use the transport stream demux IC, and not only dump the mpeg data, but also utilize the card with all the receivers functions, etc
[05:00:00] kgbudz: mchou, it totally depends on your setup
[05:01:00] mchou: kgbudz: but I'm still very leery of hitachis.
[05:01:00] kgbudz: for me, i get the drive which has the most gigs per dollar
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[05:01:00] kgbudz: cause i run both raid servers and jbod servers
[05:01:00] mchou: kgbudz: lol, that automatically means WD :)
[05:01:00] kgbudz: if you have a single drive configuration
[05:01:00] kgbudz: i would make sure i get something of good quality
[05:01:00] kgbudz: and im not sure what that would be
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[05:02:00] anonuser: I'm trying to get either Freevo or MythTV working under FreeBSD o.O not so much luck
[05:02:00] kgbudz: whats the problem?
[05:02:00] mchou: anonuser: you must be a masochist.
[05:02:00] mchou: does myth even work under freebsd?
[05:02:00] anonuser: mchou: the cxm driver complains about the IR remote, which i didn't bother with
[05:03:00] anonuser: mchou: it will when im done with it
[05:03:00] mchou: haha!
[05:03:00] CCFL_Man: if i could code, dissasemble code, and read code, i would attempt such a project, but i can't
[05:03:00] NightBird: weee...
[05:03:00] NightBird: I managed to get all of my hd installed
[05:03:00] CCFL_Man: only way to get directv on mythtv is using a capture card
[05:03:00] anonuser: I have a pvr 250
[05:04:00] mchou: NightBird: that doesnt even make sense. That's like saying I'm half pregnant.
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[05:04:00] mchou: either you are or arent :)
[05:05:00] CCFL_Man: so who here might be interested in making a directv pci card? :P
[05:05:00] CTV1337: hey, can anyone help me compile my kernel with the lirc_i2c module?
[05:05:00] NightBird: heh
[05:05:00] anonuser: what is that lirc?
[05:05:00] NightBird: wel, I mean all of my hardware, not my hard drive..
[05:05:00] CTV1337: linux infra red controller
[05:06:00] ** NightBird installed a 250 gig sata2 disk, and is now useing it as a boot disk, and I also upgraded my ram to 2 gigs **
[05:06:00] CCFL_Man: i have yet to see schematics for a directv receiver
[05:06:00] mchou: NightBird: 2 gigs??
[05:06:00] mchou: for what?
[05:07:00] NightBird: Windows xp 64
[05:07:00] mchou: CCFL_Man: dude, what's the point? you gonna get a smartcard and get sued by Hughes? :)
[05:07:00] NightBird: (eventually)
[05:07:00] mchou: NightBird: lol
[05:07:00] mchou: NightBird: what the hell for?
[05:07:00] NightBird: I'm currently running windows xp 32... I'm thinking of installing xp 64 to my raptor drive, and then try emulating my current hd
[05:07:00] NightBird: I also do a fair amount of machine emulation as well
[05:07:00] mchou: NightBird: huh??
[05:08:00] NightBird: vmware
[05:08:00] mchou: emulating HD? what does that mean?
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[05:08:00] NightBird: mchou, have a virtual machine that boots from the hard drive
[05:08:00] mchou: ok, vmware.
[05:08:00] anonuser: NightBird: that sounds slow.
[05:09:00] CCFL_Man: mchou: it'll function as a rregular receiver, legal subscription required
[05:09:00] CTV1337: can anyone help me compile my kernel with the lirc_i2c module?
[05:09:00] NightBird: anonuser, it's not too bad
[05:09:00] NightBird: vmware doesn't really show too much of a slow down(in my experiences anyway)
[05:09:00] mchou: CCFL_Man: that hasnt prevented Hughes from taking ppl to court. :)
[05:09:00] NightBird: also I wanted some ram free so that I would have some avalible for my myth box
[05:10:00] mchou: NightBird: cut the cord already man. Why do you even use windows?
[05:10:00] mchou: like maybe if you do CAD.....
[05:10:00] NightBird: gameing
[05:10:00] mchou: but come on....gaming in VMWare??? You must be daft.
[05:10:00] NightBird: ...
[05:11:00] mchou: slower than molasses.
[05:11:00] CCFL_Man: mchou: release the pcb cad files anonymously :P
[05:11:00] NightBird: who said I was gameing in vmware?
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[05:11:00] NightBird: I'm gameing in the native windows machine
[05:11:00] mchou: NightBird: just get the next xbox and get it over with.
[05:12:00] NightBird: bah
[05:12:00] NightBird: I had an xbox
[05:12:00] NightBird: never used it
[05:12:00] mchou: NightBird: send it over here then :)
[05:12:00] NightBird: the games I mainly play are all emulated psx, gba, or snes games
[05:12:00] NightBird: already sold it
[05:12:00] NightBird: to my brother in law for $80
[05:13:00] mchou: lol.
[05:13:00] NightBird: which is a bit more then I was expecting to get honestly
[05:13:00] CCFL_Man: so can use use a dvb card to receveive dish network legally?
[05:13:00] mchou: so why would you want to go 64?
[05:13:00] mchou: no games in native 64 for quite some time.
[05:13:00] NightBird: mchou, so I could emulate a 64 bit linux?
[05:13:00] NightBird: :P
[05:13:00] NightBird: actually, a few do
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[05:13:00] NightBird: it's not a major movement as of right now, but there are ones with 64 bit versions
[05:14:00] mchou: NightBird: name one.
[05:14:00] mchou: no games moving over to 64 afaik.
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[05:15:00] mchou: HW is so ahead of SW right now it's not even funny.
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[05:15:00] anonuser: okay found a custom port of mythtv
[05:15:00] anonuser: its only 0.17 though o.O
[05:15:00] mchou: that's better than nothing :)
[05:16:00] anonuser: i'll probably do the port from 0.17 to 18
[05:16:00] NightBird: mchou, far cry has a 64 bit port
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[05:17:00] mchou: NightBird: lol. They are the ONLY one.
[05:17:00] anonuser: 64 bits in games don't really make all that much sense unless you're running a physic simulation o.O
[05:17:00] NightBird: you asked me to name just one :D
[05:17:00] CCFL_Man: http://www.twinhan.com/product_satellite_4.asp <--works with a nagravision cam (dish network cam), you guyd think i can receive dish network legally?
[05:17:00] mchou: NightBird: Fry Cry was put out by AMD to sell machines :)
[05:18:00] anonuser: Far Cry was horrid game
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[05:18:00] mchou: anonuser: I havent played it. was it really that bad?
[05:18:00] NightBird: mchou, so? you asked me to name one
[05:18:00] anonuser: mchou: yes, think mario physics for the monsters.
[05:19:00] CCFL_Man: i'm a nintendo fanboy
[05:19:00] ** NightBird likes nintendo **
[05:19:00] anonuser: i'm a nintendo hateboy
[05:19:00] mchou: anonuser: haha, maybe that's why they had 64-bit port :)
[05:19:00] mchou: improve the physics
[05:19:00] anonuser: mchou: i recieved the game free with my BFG 6800 GT OC and hated it
[05:19:00] mchou: anonuser: huh??
[05:20:00] anonuser: mchou: in other words its not worth buying.
[05:20:00] mchou: I have same card retail, I didnt get one.
[05:20:00] mchou: anonuser: where you buy your BFG?
[05:20:00] anonuser: chumbo.com ;D
[05:20:00] anonuser: they have sales on the things
[05:20:00] anonuser: 7800 GTX OC cheap there
[05:20:00] mchou: anonuser: oh, sorry. I have 6600GT :)
[05:20:00] mchou: hehe.
[05:21:00] anonuser: I only opt on the bigger cards ;D
[05:21:00] ** NightBird got his 6800 non retail, so no extra games for me **
[05:21:00] NightBird: meh
[05:21:00] CTV1337: can anyone help me compile my kernel with the lirc_i2c module?
[05:21:00] anonuser: CTV1337: did you google it?
[05:21:00] mchou: anonuser: I thought chumbo is mainly refurb???
[05:21:00] anonuser: chumbo is a bfg outlet.
[05:22:00] CTV1337: yeah i couldn't find anything
[05:22:00] CTV1337: i know to go to /usr/src/linux and do the make
[05:22:00] anonuser: http://www.bfgtech.com/buy_redux.html
[05:22:00] CTV1337: but after it compiles i don't know what to do
[05:22:00] anonuser: CTV1337: im sure you'll need to customize the kernel
[05:23:00] anonuser: jesus you run linux (which is just a kernel) and no nothing about it ;D
[05:23:00] anonuser: know* rather
[05:23:00] CTV1337: yeah theres a box you mark with X to load the lirc_i2c kernel so i do that and do a modules modules_install
[05:23:00] mchou: anonuser: lol, did I miss something??? 6800GT and 6600GT is SAME PRICE??
[05:23:00] anonuser: maybe
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[05:24:00] mchou: anonuser: http://www.chumbo.com/FeaturedMfr.aspx?id=5874&ptr=BFG
[05:24:00] anonuser: 6800 GT OC and 6800 GT are different
[05:24:00] mchou: no I said 6600GT
[05:24:00] mchou: lol
[05:24:00] anonuser: NO!
[05:24:00] anonuser: thats a 6800 OC
[05:24:00] anonuser: not 6800 GT
[05:24:00] mrproper_: anyone have an idea why im getting: "Unknown video codec:" when trying to transcode any of my recordings
[05:24:00] mchou: anonuser: ok :)
[05:25:00] anonuser: personally get the 6800 OC
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[05:25:00] mchou: anonuser: but still
[05:25:00] anonuser: there is a software hack to open up the piplines
[05:25:00] anonuser: you can go 6800 -> 6800 Ultra
[05:25:00] anonuser: AGP only
[05:25:00] mchou: BFG makes mobos now?
[05:26:00] mchou: haha
[05:26:00] anonuser: yeah its a decent mobo
[05:26:00] anonuser: just not my A8n SLI Deleux
[05:27:00] mchou: no firewire.
[05:27:00] anonuser: I adore my mobo
[05:27:00] mchou: anonuser: your ethernet didnt go out on you yet? :)
[05:27:00] anonuser: mchou: i know what im doing
[05:27:00] mchou: A*N are notorious for that.
[05:27:00] mchou: A8N*
[05:27:00] anonuser: most of the people who complained about that didn't read notes
[05:28:00] mchou: huh??
[05:28:00] anonuser: i have two nics anyway
[05:28:00] anonuser: a Yukon which uses some sk firmware
[05:28:00] mchou: HW failure caused by SW :)?
[05:28:00] anonuser: which is super standard
[05:28:00] anonuser: mchou: the Active Armomr was bugged
[05:28:00] anonuser: but you could not install that
[05:28:00] anonuser: and still use that nic
[05:28:00] anonuser: which i have
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[05:28:00] anonuser: i had zero problems
[05:29:00] anonuser: i wrote a guide on how to get all that shit working
[05:29:00] anonuser: wtf is nvidia thinking installing apache on a windows machine
[05:29:00] mchou: oh, it worked all right, like for one month :)
[05:29:00] mchou: then pooped out :)
[05:29:00] anonuser: mchou: no mine still works :)
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[05:29:00] jakeisawake: hey
[05:29:00] anonuser: I was tempted to write basic drivers
[05:30:00] jakeisawake: anyone out there wanna maybe give me a helpig hand?
[05:30:00] mrproper_: anyone have an idea why im getting: "Unknown video codec:" when trying to transcode any of my recordings
[05:30:00] anonuser: but that damn MPC is a tricky beast
[05:30:00] jakeisawake: trying to get LIRC working, i have my lirc.conf up and irw shows all my commands but i cant get it to work in my frontend
[05:30:00] CCFL_Man: anyone use twinhan cards?
[05:31:00] anonuser: okay im runing FreeBSD 5.2, im going to need to upgrade o.O
[05:36:00] anonuser: anyof you run electricsheep?
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[05:40:00] fatmatt: heyas
[05:41:00] fatmatt: anyone having issues with mythfrontend losing window focus occasionally after playing a recording?
[05:43:00] Beirdo: not since I got a reasonable window manager
[05:43:00] tomacco: not me
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[05:45:00] anonuser: i read that as "E"
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[05:48:00] riddlebox: hrmm what was that url for the howto using ubuntu?
[05:49:00] awstott: lol
[05:49:00] CCFL_Man: i found a dvb card i can use
[05:49:00] awstott: umm
[05:50:00] CCFL_Man: the twinhan Sat CI, i can put a dish network card in it
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[05:50:00] CCFL_Man: and get it legally
[05:51:00] CCFL_Man: so, what do you guys recommend as a cable tv tuner only card?
[05:53:00] awstott: riddlebox let me look up that url
[05:53:00] riddlebox: awstott:nm I got it running in debian
[05:54:00] riddlebox: I had to install the nvidia drivers, I didnt know I had to do that to get a picture
[05:54:00] awstott: www.abarbaccia.com/
[05:54:00] awstott: I have an ati card
[05:54:00] awstott: hopefully that works for me
[05:54:00] awstott: i havn't had a chance to finish mine yet
[05:55:00] riddlebox: I am becoming a pro at getting it to work with a pvr500
[05:55:00] awstott: cool.... you can help me then :P
[05:55:00] riddlebox: no prob
[05:55:00] awstott: I can't get into my box tho... i didn't setup remote access
[05:56:00] riddlebox: ahh I use knoppmyth it has ssh installed by default :)
[05:56:00] CCFL_Man: and with a cable tv tuner card, is it best to get one that encodes mpeg2 or can i use the mpeg4 software encoder with decent performance?
[05:58:00] awstott: prolly mpeg 2 on the card..... software isn't as good as hardware unless you got a lot of horsepower
[05:58:00] riddlebox: doesnt really matter right, mythtv saves them as nuv files right?
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[06:01:00] CCFL_Man: awstott: well, the dvb card and hdtv card will just dump the raw streams to the hard drive
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[06:15:00] ** CCFL_Man reads lots of documentation **
[06:15:00] riddlebox: hrmm well for some reason I can only get sound out of one tuner
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[06:16:00] vegbox: ANyone got any good xorg.conf for nvidia svideo out?
[06:19:00] GreyFoxx: This is my current file : http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/xorg.conf
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[06:44:00] Krazylegz: Gavin!
[06:46:00] Krazylegz: MythLogBot: help
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[06:47:00] CCFL_Man: what kind of cable tuners do you guys use?
[06:47:00] awstott: hauppage pvrs
[06:47:00] travolta: pvr 250
[06:48:00] CCFL_Man: they have video input or no?
[06:48:00] Krazylegz: PVR-350.
[06:48:00] travolta: 555–9562
[06:48:00] CCFL_Man: i'm looking for one that just tunes cable, no video input
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[06:49:00] Must4: hi
[06:49:00] awstott: I have a 500
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[06:51:00] tomacco: avertv for me
[06:51:00] tomacco: has a video input, you dont have to use it
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[06:53:00] CCFL_Man: well
[06:53:00] CCFL_Man: i want to be able to record cable and video input at the same time
[06:53:00] tomacco: youll need two capture cards
[06:54:00] tomacco: and a fast bus
[06:54:00] awstott: my card has 2 tuners on it
[06:54:00] tomacco: ah, yeah, nevermind, i forgot they make em like that
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[06:55:00] Krazylegz: Is the PVR-500 the only dual-tuner card?
[06:56:00] mchou: Krazylegz: nope.
[06:56:00] mchou: but it is probably the only one that works in linux :)
[06:57:00] mchou: Avermedia might have a dual tuner by now too.
[06:58:00] CCFL_Man: they make cable tv only cards with mpeg2 encoding?
[06:58:00] HankH: anyone know where I can get that script that puts nuv files back in your mysql database??
[06:58:00] HankH: I accidentally deleted my mysql DB
[06:59:00] HankH: I used it once bfore but I forgot the name of it and now I can't find it
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[07:12:00] nada: hello, i am using ubuntu hoary and want to install my hd-3000 and i can not find good install instructions for the life of me
[07:12:00] nada: anyone have a good link?
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[07:15:00] CCFL_Man: hmm..
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[07:15:00] CCFL_Man: i was thinking of getting an air2pci card
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[07:24:00] vegeetz: How do you load up the modules at boot for pvr150
[07:24:00] vegeetz: i tried using the how to but it doesnt seem to want to load
[07:25:00] Krazylegz: Which distro?
[07:25:00] vegeetz: fedora core
[07:25:00] vegeetz: it says to use this line
[07:25:00] vegeetz: install lirc_i2c /sbin/modprobe ivtv; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install lirc_i2c
[07:25:00] vegeetz: but it doesnt work
[07:25:00] vegeetz: doesnt load
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[07:27:00] CCFL_Man: is a nagravision cam illegal?
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[07:29:00] pucky: vegeetz, I'm workin on that right now
[07:29:00] Krazylegz: Did you check your modules.conf, or whatever it is in RH?
[07:29:00] vegeetz: modprobe.conf
[07:29:00] vegeetz: is what you are suppose to use
[07:29:00] vegeetz: so thats what i am using
[07:29:00] Krazylegz: That looks okay?
[07:29:00] vegeetz: yeah
[07:29:00] Krazylegz: You can pastebin if you want.
[07:29:00] willy: How do I turn off the feature of using my ati remote as a pointer in X?
[07:29:00] pucky: I think the issue might be the --ignore-install
[07:29:00] pucky: remove that
[07:29:00] vegeetz: hmmm
[07:29:00] pucky: nada regard what I just said
[07:30:00] vegeetz: huh
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[07:30:00] vegeetz: pucky?
[07:30:00] vegeetz: does that work ornot?
[07:30:00] pucky: vegeetz, ya me. I'm working on it, but that didn't do it
[07:30:00] pucky: can you post me your ivtv print out?
[07:30:00] vegeetz: i just deleted it
[07:30:00] vegeetz: and put it in the autostart
[07:31:00] pucky: I've having issues getting the tuner to work
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[07:31:00] pucky: where is autostart?
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[07:33:00] pirre_: /etc/rc.boot or such ?
[07:34:00] CCFL_Man: i've been reading
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[07:35:00] CCFL_Man: seems like dishnetwork uses a modified version of nagravision, so i need a cam that will support than and i'd have a legal subscription
[07:35:00] vegeetz: pucky
[07:35:00] vegeetz: when i talked to you earlier today
[07:35:00] vegeetz: i had gentoo
[07:35:00] pucky: yup
[07:35:00] vegeetz: now i am up and running
[07:36:00] vegeetz: on fc4
[07:36:00] vegeetz: lol
[07:36:00] vegeetz: what are you doing
[07:36:00] vegeetz: lol
[07:36:00] pucky: I have kids
[07:36:00] pucky: ;)
[07:36:00] pucky: bath time and all
[07:36:00] vegeetz: sure you do
[07:36:00] vegeetz: hehe
[07:37:00] pucky: any chance you wanna help me with my tuner being detected
[07:37:00] vegeetz: it should auto detect
[07:37:00] pucky: ya it doesn't
[07:38:00] pucky: I've got a PVR 150 retail
[07:38:00] pucky: I've been at this for days
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[07:40:00] CCFL_Man: where is a good resource for DVB-S cards?
[07:40:00] vegeetz: i got mine retail too
[07:40:00] pucky: tveeprom: tuner = <unknown> (idx = 99, type = 4)
[07:40:00] pucky: this is my issue
[07:41:00] pucky: I just put /sbin/modprobe lirc_i2c in /etc/rc.local
[07:41:00] pucky: and its all there at boot now
[07:42:00] pucky: lirc_i2c loads ivtv
[07:43:00] pucky: here is my model, is it the same as yours?
[07:43:00] pucky: tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 26032, rev = C199, serial# = 8004500
[07:44:00] vegeetz: ummm
[07:44:00] vegeetz: i dunno
[07:45:00] pucky: what do you see when you run dmesg
[07:46:00] vegeetz: hold on
[07:46:00] vegeetz: my box is already hook up to svideo
[07:46:00] vegeetz: mine says tuner 50
[07:46:00] vegeetz: on it
[07:47:00] pucky: oh so your going digital tv svideo to pvr150?
[07:47:00] pucky: or no.
[07:47:00] vegeetz: huh
[07:47:00] vegeetz: no nvidia
[07:47:00] vegeetz: svideo out
[07:47:00] pucky: ya that's what I have
[07:47:00] pucky: sorry I just see in the load that it's setting my tuner to 4
[07:48:00] pucky: and I have no idea what that is
[07:48:00] pucky: my pvr 150 has svideo in
[07:48:00] pucky: as well
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[07:51:00] xris: svideo in is nice.  :)
[07:51:00] pucky: ya has the ir blaster as well so I could just use my cable box svideo out into my card
[07:51:00] pucky: but
[07:52:00] pucky: I wanna get the tuner workin
[07:53:00] xris: I use svideo + blaster for my Dish stuff. works like a charm when lirc doesn't break.
[07:53:00] pucky: lol
[07:56:00] CCFL_Man: hmm..
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[08:00:00] vegeetz: okay
[08:00:00] vegeetz: it just says
[08:00:00] vegeetz: tuner type 50
[08:00:00] vegeetz: for me
[08:00:00] pucky: I guess I should upgrade to Fedora core 4
[08:00:00] pucky: that might be the issue
[08:01:00] pucky: so did you just follow the fedora guys instructions and it worked
[08:01:00] pucky: minus the auto load on boot
[08:01:00] vegeetz: yup
[08:01:00] vegeetz: in seconds
[08:01:00] vegeetz: get the dvd
[08:02:00] pucky: I had FC4 install 2 weeks ago but they didn't have the apt-get rpms up for myth yet
[08:02:00] pucky: so I bailed and went back to FC3
[08:02:00] pucky: starting new install now. :)
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[08:05:00] CCFL_Man: you can't receive dish network using a dvb-s card
[08:05:00] pucky: then what's a dvb-s card for?
[08:05:00] CCFL_Man: dish uses 8psk modulation, the dvb-s standard is qpsk
[08:05:00] CCFL_Man: satellite dvb streams
[08:06:00] pucky: oh you mean "dish" the network
[08:06:00] CCFL_Man: yeah
[08:06:00] pucky: ah
[08:06:00] CCFL_Man: it's a pathetic shame, as receiving dish network on a dvb card would rock
[08:08:00] CCFL_Man: dvb-s2 is compatible with dish network, but then you'll need a nagravision 2 cam, and dish network will not activate anything that isn't in their own receivers
[08:08:00] CCFL_Man: so it's discusting
[08:08:00] CCFL_Man: there is very limited dvb stuff in the US
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[08:09:00] CCFL_Man: digital cable is worthless, directv is limited to tivo, and dish network is limited to their pvrs
[08:10:00] CCFL_Man: so all 3 tv providers can suck my ass
[08:16:00] CCFL_Man: damn shame i cant get the science channel into my mythtv box digitally
[08:17:00] GreyFoxx: CCFL_Man: Uhhhh I know plenty of people that receive Dishnet on their DVB-S cards
[08:17:00] GreyFoxx: And Dishnet and Bell Expressvu use identical receivers and I have gotten bell off my dvb-s card
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[08:49:00] Russ: every now and then, irexec stops being able to relay signals with irsend
[08:49:00] Russ: and I have to kill and restart it :(
[08:50:00] Russ: I can see it forking and execing irexec
[08:50:00] Russ: and I can see irexec talking to lirc, and a reassuring "[pid 10046] read(4, "BEGIN\nSEND_ONCE K12K-C5 POWER\nSUCCESS\nEND\n", 256) = 42"
[08:50:00] Russ: coming back, but the tv doesn't turn on
[08:51:00] Russ: hmmm...irsend from the commandline doesn't work
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[08:55:00] Russ: bummer, my transmitter is actually dead this time
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[09:16:00] fatmatt: Beirdo: what window manager do you use?
[09:17:00] GreyFoxx: blah
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[09:58:00] EL_Whistey: I have a question. If I select on program table, I see it has like 2300 or so entries, but when I go into program guide it's full of 'unknown'
[09:58:00] EL_Whistey: My question is: what might be causing that?
[10:00:00] EL_Whistey: Hey ... perhaps that's a FAQ. I'll check
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[10:04:00] EL_Whistey: Ok. Not an FAQ.
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[10:18:00] EL_Whistey: Aha, here's a clue. Status in DB was: FAILED: xmltv returned error code 5632
[10:18:00] EL_Whistey: mythfilldatabaseLastRunStatus that is
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[10:30:00] Araldit: Has anyone the problem that when you play a dvd, and choose a different subtitle, the OSD disappears. I dont mean when you choose it from the dvd menu, but when you change subtitle during playback.
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[11:19:00] mdew: anyone use an ati-remote?
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[11:21:00] mdew: trying to slow the acceleration/repeat rate on it, xset just isnt helping :/
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[11:39:00] travolta: look at ~/.lircrc
[11:39:00] travolta: ~/.mythtv/lircrc
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[11:46:00] Araldit: I have the exact opposit problem. How do I speed things up with the remote. Scrolling through 1000 mp3 in mythmusic is a pain as it is now.. Tried setting repeat to 1, 2, 3 but no difference
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[13:02:00] fatmatt: Beirdo: are you awake>
[13:03:00] Beirdo: no
[13:03:00] Beirdo: heh
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[13:06:00] fatmatt: what were you saying before about a decent window manager, ie which one do you use?
[13:07:00] fatmatt: I'm using fvwm, basically because when I first set up myth I had some reports of fvwm being light on resources
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[13:41:00] Tommck: I just tried (for the first time) to play a DVD in Myth... I got a few messages about the DVD contents... and a "DVD Successfully opened" message...
[13:41:00] Tommck: and it didn't play anything.
[13:41:00] Tommck: and the frontend doesn't respond anymore... anyone know why this is happening?
[13:41:00] Beirdo: I use ratpoison
[13:42:00] Tommck: mplayer is actually running... but the UI is nowhere to be foudn
[13:42:00] Tommck: found*
[13:45:00] ** Tommck has to go to the IRC log to go over the deluge of responses ;) **
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[14:36:00] fatmatt: Tommck: now and then for some reason after using mplayer, mythfrontend doesn't take focus, the commands go to the desktop.
[14:37:00] fatmatt: Beirdo reckons he used to have the same problem until he got a decent window manager
[14:37:00] fatmatt: I'm browsing for the ratpoison wm right now
[14:37:00] Tommck: fatmatt – but mplayer never got a UI.
[14:38:00] fatmatt: the mplayer packages I use don't have a gui in them,
[14:39:00] fatmatt: wtf
[14:39:00] fatmatt: there actually is a window manager called ratpoison, I thought Beirdo was taking the piss
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[14:40:00] fatmatt: lol
[14:41:00] Tommck: fatmatt – well, I never got a DVD playing either :)
[14:42:00] fatmatt: I ended up using xine to play dvds
[14:42:00] Tommck: xine's bitching about a plugin :)
[14:43:00] fatmatt: but I never managed to get it to work without the mouse to select the dvd menu stuff
[14:43:00] fatmatt: whcih plugin?
[14:43:00] Tommck: "There is no input plugin available to handle dvd:/"...
[14:44:00] fatmatt: ahh
[14:45:00] fatmatt: I have no idea how to fix that.
[14:45:00] Tommck: I'll figure it out
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[15:24:00] laga: if i add another slave backend to my setup, does the master backend automagically distribute stuff like commflagging to the new backend?
[15:32:00] DonLKSAB: Hi all
[15:32:00] DonLKSAB: Anyone here that know something about apache and php?
[15:41:00] sphing: ... yes
[15:41:00] DonLKSAB: Have time for a non myth question?
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[15:41:00] DonLKSAB: Do you*
[15:42:00] sphing: ask away
[15:42:00] DonLKSAB: I try to run differnet php scripts. Vbulletin ans several php portals
[15:42:00] sphing: laga: i think you have to setup your options in setup so that it happens, but i think it does
[15:42:00] DonLKSAB: And no relative paths work
[15:43:00] DonLKSAB: I have to edit them to absolute paths for the scripts to work
[15:43:00] DonLKSAB: So "include once ./config.php" wont work
[15:44:00] DonLKSAB: But "include once /www/htdocs/bla/config.php" works
[15:44:00] DonLKSAB: It must be a setting that is wrong somewere in php
[15:44:00] DonLKSAB: Or in Apache mabey
[15:45:00] DonLKSAB: Any idea were to start looking?
[15:45:00] sphing: i doubt its a setting
[15:45:00] sphing: are you taking about one page?
[15:45:00] DonLKSAB: Nope
[15:45:00] sphing: i'm sure you're setting them up wrong
[15:46:00] sphing: theres no way whatever portal would make you change the code on every php page
[15:46:00] laga: sphing: ok, thanks
[15:46:00] laga: too bad that i'm too lazy to bring mythtv-setup now
[15:46:00] sphing: laga: but i dont think its enabled by default... but i'm not sure
[15:47:00] DonLKSAB: sphing: Last days i have downloaded and tryed 3 different portals and vbulletin
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[15:47:00] DonLKSAB: Vbulletin i managed to get installed after changing ALOT of paths
[15:47:00] sphing: you're not reading the docs
[15:47:00] laga: DonLKSAB: i like phpBB, but it's a rootshell with additional bulletin board capabilities
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[15:47:00] DonLKSAB: Yes
[15:47:00] DonLKSAB: Spent a week on vbulletin
[15:47:00] sphing: tried make a symlink?
[15:48:00] DonLKSAB: It should be so simple. Copy and run a php file
[15:48:00] sphing: ... thats how i make my portals
[15:49:00] DonLKSAB: But it cant find any of the requerd files. Unless i edit to absolute paths
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[15:49:00] DonLKSAB: So somethng is wrong :-)
[15:49:00] sphing: well if you cant find the required files i doubt heavily that its an apache/php problem.. sounds like a portal problem
[15:50:00] DonLKSAB: Nope. i dont think all 5 portals and vbulletin have errors in them
[15:50:00] DonLKSAB: And noone else on vbulletin forum had this problem
[15:50:00] sphing: well you just said you cant find files
[15:51:00] DonLKSAB: It cant find ./config.php for ecample
[15:51:00] sphing: is it there.. with read and execute perms for all?
[15:51:00] DonLKSAB: Its there
[15:51:00] DonLKSAB: And all permissions correct
[15:52:00] sphing: make a test script
[15:52:00] sphing: test.php that includes ./test2.php
[15:52:00] DonLKSAB: And if i edit the install php page from "./config.php" to "/www/htdocs/forum/config.php" it works
[15:52:00] sphing: ahhh
[15:53:00] sphing: you mean the script cant find the files, not you
[15:53:00] DonLKSAB: Yes
[15:53:00] DonLKSAB: Absolute paths works
[15:53:00] sphing: i thought you mean you were missing files... yea thats sounds like a config problem
[15:53:00] sphing: but i've never seen it, so check out php config
[15:56:00] DonLKSAB: Any idea what i should look for?
[15:56:00] DonLKSAB: Thats the bog problem
[15:56:00] DonLKSAB: big*
[15:56:00] DonLKSAB: I dont know what to look for in the manual :-)
[15:57:00] sphing: i'd grep for path
[15:57:00] sphing: or search for relative or absolute
[15:57:00] Krazylegz: Check your include_path in your PHP config.
[15:57:00] Krazylegz: You may not be including . by default.
[15:58:00] sphing: anyone know how to get my nfs root to not mount read only
[15:58:00] DonLKSAB: ok checking
[15:58:00] Beirdo: maybe by checking on google
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[15:58:00] Beirdo: this isn't a general Linux support channel, ya know :)
[15:58:00] Beirdo: I'm sure there are good howtos out there
[15:59:00] DonLKSAB: Beirdo Yes
[15:59:00] DonLKSAB: Wont ask anymore :-)
[15:59:00] Beirdo: that was to sphing more specifically
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[15:59:00] ** sphing ashamed **
[16:00:00] DonLKSAB: Dont blame him. Im the one that needed help
[16:00:00] Beirdo: I mean, the channel is idle, so no harm :)
[16:00:00] Beirdo: but still, you can get better help elsewhere :)
[16:00:00] sphing: you ever been in ##linux
[16:00:00] Beirdo: did I say to go there? :)
[16:00:00] sphing: haha.. where to then?
[16:00:00] sphing: i could seriously use some help on nfs mounting... if you know a good place
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[16:27:00] Beirdo: google
[16:27:00] Beirdo: there are rafts of documentation out there
[16:32:00] Beirdo: I am Cornholio!
[16:32:00] Beirdo: I think it's good that I'm drinking decaf today
[16:33:00] Krazylegz: Decaf with a bit of Bailey's, that's the way to go.
[16:33:00] Beirdo: not while at work
[16:33:00] Beirdo: decaf venti latte
[16:33:00] Beirdo: heh
[16:33:00] CyberKnet: sphing: nfs mounting is very easy =)
[16:33:00] Beirdo: and if I were to spike my coffee, it would be with sipiced rum
[16:34:00] Beirdo: spiced rather
[16:34:00] CyberKnet: mmmmm. captain morgans.
[16:34:00] CyberKnet: speaking of which, I need to go buy more spiced rum.
[16:34:00] Beirdo: CyberKnet: he's trying to get the nfs root RW
[16:34:00] Beirdo: I don't have any spiced right now
[16:34:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: *shrug*. Minor details =)
[16:34:00] Beirdo: got Bacardi 151, Bacardi Gold, Havana Club 8 yr, Havana Club white
[16:34:00] CyberKnet: I used the last of my spiced rum (the whole bottle, really) on a bucket of pina coladas
[16:35:00] Beirdo: and of course... lots on puzzle pirates... barrels of it
[16:35:00] Beirdo: hehe
[16:35:00] CyberKnet: Too bad we can't get Havana Club down here in JesusLand
[16:35:00] Beirdo: blame the govt
[16:35:00] Beirdo: they are protecting you from evil good rum
[16:35:00] Beirdo: and evil good cigars
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[16:40:00] sphing: CyberKnet: I'm trying to do this on my xbox
[16:40:00] sphing: i got it mounting... but i want to build a small distro.. which is where i'm having problems
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[16:49:00] CyberKnet: sphing: If you want small, you can't beat lfs
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[16:51:00] vegeetz: Whats teh best setting for transcoding to mpeg4?
[16:52:00] Beirdo: the one that gives the output you like
[16:52:00] CyberKnet: bing bing bing bing bing!
[16:52:00] CyberKnet: We have a winner!
[16:53:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo, tell vegeetz what he's won!
[16:53:00] Beirdo: You have won a trout.... *splat*
[16:53:00] vegeetz: Doh?
[16:53:00] Beirdo: hehe
[16:53:00] vegeetz: Did i do somethign wrong?
[16:54:00] Beirdo: you will have to fiddle with settings to get something you like, dude
[16:54:00] Beirdo: it's all subjective, what's best for me won't likely be the best for you
[16:54:00] vegeetz: ohh
[16:54:00] vegeetz: Hmmm
[16:54:00] CyberKnet: Congratulations Vegeetz, you've won an all expenses paid trip to Google.com, where all your desires become reality! Relax in the easy going atmosphere while you type in pertinent keywords and look at the results. Proudly sponsored by Google, "Do No Evil!".
[16:54:00] Beirdo: we all have different requirements..
[16:55:00] vegeetz: Hmmm
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[16:55:00] vegeetz: I thought there was a good general setting
[16:55:00] CyberKnet: ;)
[16:55:00] vegeetz: for cable tv
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[16:55:00] CyberKnet: vegeetz: It highly depends on the quality of your incoming signal, as well as what you watch.
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[16:55:00] Beirdo: start playing until you find some settings you like for the content
[16:55:00] CyberKnet: Queer Eye might want different settings than CSI, for example.
[16:55:00] vegeetz: I mean i want to get it down to a point where a 30 minute cartoon show
[16:55:00] vegeetz: is roughly 200 megabytes
[16:55:00] Beirdo: Queer Eye wants the delete key
[16:55:00] vegeetz: with out commercials
[16:55:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: but of course.
[16:56:00] Krazylegz: Oooo, cartoons!
[16:56:00] CyberKnet: Cartoon Cartoon!
[16:56:00] Beirdo: vegeetz: you have the time length
[16:56:00] Beirdo: you have the file size
[16:56:00] stoffel_: Beirdo: CyberKnet get out off the sun, now! :)
[16:56:00] Beirdo: you can calculate the required bitrate
[16:56:00] CyberKnet: I sometimes wonder about the origin of the word cartoon.
[16:56:00] vegeetz: but are the nuv files after transcoding
[16:56:00] CyberKnet: stoffel_: lmao =)
[16:56:00] Beirdo: whether or not it looks like shit... dunno
[16:56:00] vegeetz: the same as like regular mpeg4 files
[16:56:00] vegeetz: in avi?
[16:57:00] Beirdo: very similar but not the same
[16:58:00] vegeetz: Cool
[16:58:00] vegeetz: What BitRate are you using
[16:58:00] vegeetz: ?
[16:58:00] Beirdo: GAH
[16:58:00] vegeetz: for mpg4 trancoding
[16:58:00] Beirdo: I don't transcode
[16:59:00] vegeetz: i decided to krank it down to 1300
[16:59:00] vegeetz: from 2200
[16:59:00] Beirdo: you want to fit a certain amount of time into a certain number of bytes
[16:59:00] Beirdo: that directly calculates to a bitrate
[16:59:00] vegeetz: yeah
[16:59:00] vegeetz: i know
[16:59:00] vegeetz: sheeshk
[16:59:00] vegeetz: how come you dont transcode?
[16:59:00] Beirdo: so why are you asking?
[16:59:00] vegeetz: you dont give balls?
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[16:59:00] CyberKnet: vegeetz: stop asking stupid questions.
[16:59:00] Krazylegz: CyberKnet: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=cartoon
[16:59:00] Beirdo: I don't transcode because disk is cheap
[17:00:00] vegeetz: these are stupid questions?
[17:00:00] CyberKnet: Krazylegz: And stoffel thought *I* was in the sun =)
[17:00:00] Beirdo: I wouldn't say stupid...
[17:00:00] Krazylegz: Pfft. I don't go outside.
[17:00:00] Beirdo: Mmmm, outside
[17:00:00] Beirdo: if it were sunny, I'd go out
[17:00:00] Krazylegz: Well, I got the mail today, but I didn't have to step completely outside of the house.
[17:00:00] Beirdo: it's raining
[17:00:00] Krazylegz: It's about 100 here.
[17:00:00] vegeetz: I mean i dont encode videos everyday, so i dont know if its worth cranking up the bitrate for analog cable
[17:00:00] vegeetz: lol
[17:00:00] Krazylegz: Sunny.
[17:00:00] stoffel_: Beirdo: come on, you asked for rain
[17:01:00] Beirdo: 64F and raining
[17:01:00] Beirdo: and about time
[17:01:00] Krazylegz: Yikes, where are you?
[17:01:00] stoffel_: Beirdo: ~30 degrees celsius here
[17:01:00] Beirdo: hey, I didn't say I was complaining
[17:01:00] Beirdo: Toronto
[17:01:00] CyberKnet: It has been running 104F/40C here for a week. I think it will tone down today some.
[17:01:00] Krazylegz: I thought they used the C scale in C-A-N-A-D-A.
[17:01:00] Beirdo: the bot I use is in US
[17:02:00] Beirdo: and the entire world uses C except the US
[17:02:00] Beirdo: and in Canada is ejumacated in both
[17:02:00] Beirdo: hehe
[17:04:00] Krazylegz: I have to say it. "My car gets 40 rods to the hog's head, and that's the way I likes it!"
[17:04:00] CyberKnet: Down here in JesusLand, we use the OneTrueMethod for measuring the temp.
[17:04:00] laga: stoffel_: way too hot.
[17:04:00] CyberKnet: In science. Oh and we use Fahrenheit too.
[17:04:00] Beirdo: you mean the stupid way :)
[17:04:00] CyberKnet: ;P"
[17:05:00] Beirdo: use metric for science, stupid units for real life
[17:05:00] Beirdo: heh
[17:05:00] Beirdo: go, USA
[17:05:00] CyberKnet: celsius rocks.
[17:05:00] CyberKnet: metric rocks.
[17:05:00] Krazylegz: Can't we all just switch to Kelvins?
[17:05:00] Beirdo: kelvin = celcius
[17:05:00] CyberKnet: "standard" (Imperial to the rest of the world) sucks in very vivid ways.
[17:05:00] Beirdo: let's change to Rankins
[17:06:00] Krazylegz: Well, the units are the same as Celsius, but the 0 is in a different spot.
[17:06:00] stoffel_: laga: oh yes
[17:07:00] CyberKnet: anyone here write any atom/rss feeds for their website?
[17:07:00] laga: stoffel_: but i convinced my mom to buy me some ice cream, so it's all good.
[17:07:00] Krazylegz: CyberKnet: You'd think differently if you liked something other than base10. You still wouldn't like Imperial, though.
[17:07:00] CyberKnet: Krazylegz: I am thoroughly enamored with base10 and imperial.
[17:07:00] CyberKnet: gack
[17:07:00] CyberKnet: s/imperial/metric/
[17:07:00] stoffel_: laga: lol, hmm, and you are how old again? :)
[17:09:00] CyberKnet: stoffel_: he's 12. leave him alone =)
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[17:09:00] CyberKnet: also, if my mom bought me some ice cream, it would make things all good too.
[17:09:00] CyberKnet: =P"
[17:09:00] laga: yeah
[17:09:00] Krazylegz: My mom would MAKE me ice cream. :-P
[17:09:00] laga:
[17:10:00] laga: KaZeR: your mom is bad for economy
[17:10:00] stoffel_: yeah, esp. if mom buys it
[17:10:00] laga: i meant Krazylegz
[17:10:00] Krazylegz: Haha.
[17:10:00] KaZeR: np :)
[17:10:00] laga: stoffel_: it's just that i'm too lazy to walk to the gas station. and i dont want to spend money on it. ;)
[17:10:00] KaZeR: time to leave.
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[17:11:00] KaZeR: bye
[17:11:00] laga: bye KaZeR
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[17:12:00] CyberKnet: laga: look, now you went and scared KaZeR off.
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[17:13:00] laga: CyberKnet: no, he's gone because he wants to buy some ice cream
[17:14:00] vegeetz: When i am watching live tv it feels a bit blurry, and whatn scenes move face it gets really blurry
[17:14:00] vegeetz: any one experience this or have a fix?
[17:14:00] Beirdo: raise your bitrate, perhaps
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[17:14:00] vegeetz: For live tv?
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[17:15:00] Beirdo: for whatever it is you are doing
[17:16:00] specialsauce: Hello, I am trying to compile mythtv for my system. I get all the way to make but halfway through make I get the error distcc[5336] ERROR: compile /home/captainhog/.ccache/lcddevice.tmp.swamp.5332.ii
[17:16:00] specialsauce: has anyone else experienced this error and know how to fix it?
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[17:16:00] Dejv: hi ppl
[17:16:00] Dejv: About Video sources.... I dont understand what to do there in mythtv setup because I live in Serbia...
[17:18:00] Dejv: or is video source required?
[17:18:00] specialsauce: I keep getting an internal compiler error, is there an issue with compiling mythtv and gcc 3.3.6?
[17:19:00] GreyFoxx: Dejv: what are you using for input? cable or DVB ?
[17:19:00] GreyFoxx: You usually want a videosource of some sort
[17:19:00] GreyFoxx: It's usually how you get the program guide and channel information
[17:20:00] Dejv: GreyFoxx: well I cant get anywhere program guide and channel information
[17:20:00] Beirdo: maybe stop using distcc and get a real error message
[17:20:00] Dejv: I have TV antenna
[17:21:00] Dejv: good old antenna (TV aerial?)
[17:22:00] Dejv: I hope I will soon have cable, but it does not have anything on the web for channel infoprmation and program guide
[17:22:00] specialsauce: has anyone experienced any issues with compiling or know of anything I might be missing?
[17:22:00] GreyFoxx: Ok.... hrm. in North America most use Zap2it, and in most other countries people use the xmltv grabbers but I don't see one listed for Serbia. You might be able to find one from google or by emailing the mythtv-users mailing list
[17:23:00] Dejv: there isn't any
[17:23:00] Dejv: I know for sure, because I know how bad this country is
[17:23:00] GreyFoxx: well, you could fill it in with dummy data manually I suppose
[17:24:00] Dejv: but which setting to use?
[17:24:00] GreyFoxx: I've never had to setup a fake one before
[17:24:00] GreyFoxx: There are several people that do however, so I know it's doable
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[18:33:00] Dejv: does anyone know hos to translate tv channels (Sxx, Kxx) into frequencies (MHz)?
[18:34:00] Beirdo: I'm sure google can help :)
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[18:37:00] GreyFoxx: Most people who do it use one of the various softcams
[18:37:00] GreyFoxx: Most people who do it use one of the various softcams
[18:37:00] Dejv: I am trying with google but can not find any table
[18:37:00] GreyFoxx: And thank you to my daughter for pasting even more crap into the channel
[18:38:00] laga: dude. softcams are illegal. if you care about your daughter, dont let her use one
[18:38:00] hadeees: anyone know where i can get a ivtv 3.x ebuild?
[18:38:00] GreyFoxx: bite me :)
[18:39:00] laga: Dejv: i guess i know
[18:39:00] laga: Dejv: look for frequencies.c inside of the mythtv tarball
[18:39:00] Dejv: thnx
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[18:39:00] Dejv: will look it up
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[18:46:00] vegbox: Hey all
[18:48:00] laga: hey vegbox
[18:48:00] Krazylegz: Hey laga.
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[18:53:00] vegbox: hey all
[18:53:00] vegbox: anyone here got XvMC working?
[18:53:00] vegbox: Is it better than the libmpeg2
[18:54:00] vegbox: ?
[18:59:00] travolta: i dont know.
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[18:59:00] MrSpiffy: yo!
[19:00:00] MrSpiffy: anybody get a mythfrontend started without a window manager? I used startx /usr/bin/mythfrontend
[19:00:00] MrSpiffy: it worked well but no kb control for mplayer
[19:00:00] kormoc: that's right
[19:00:00] kormoc: cause the wm is incharge of that
[19:00:00] MrSpiffy: ah
[19:00:00] laga: MrSpiffy: use ratpoison, fluxbox or something other lightweight
[19:00:00] MrSpiffy: bunner
[19:01:00] MrSpiffy: laga, I saw a refernce to blackbox
[19:01:00] MrSpiffy: I wonder what mini-myth uses
[19:01:00] kormoc: MrSpiffy, use your lightweight wm of choice, they'll all work.
[19:02:00] MrSpiffy: that's cool
[19:02:00] MrSpiffy: I'm working on a mini-tx frontend set box
[19:02:00] MrSpiffy: I may end up putting a disk in it to user ndsiwrapper for a wireless nic
[19:02:00] laga: MrSpiffy: ratpoison is helluva lightweight
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[19:03:00] MrSpiffy: man sourceforge is slow as hell today
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[19:17:00] MrSpiffy: hooray! my mini-itx hardware arrived
[19:19:00] Randall64: Which case did you get?
[19:21:00] didj: whats the freebsd frontend like, any major probs ?
[19:23:00] Beirdo: heh
[19:23:00] Beirdo: freebsd? I'm sure not many people would know
[19:34:00] vegbox: freebsd has mythtv
[19:34:00] kormoc: so continue vegbox, how is it? any major problems?
[19:34:00] MrSpiffy: Randall64, I got one with a fan
[19:34:00] MrSpiffy: the fanless was just too much $
[19:35:00] MrSpiffy: the case will fit 1 pci / laptop cd/dvd and a reg. hard drive
[19:35:00] MrSpiffy: I was going to go net boot – but now I'm thinking put a HD in it and use ndiswrapper with a wireless nic
[19:36:00] CCFL_Man: anyone in here use dvb cards?
[19:37:00] didj: CCFL_Man: dvico dvt-t lite
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[19:38:00] CCFL_Man: didj: no dvb-s?
[19:38:00] CCFL_Man: i'm in the US and i'm looking for a decent dvb-s card to use for free to air
[19:38:00] didj: neh, ive only got T
[19:39:00] CCFL_Man: ahh, you are in au
[19:40:00] CCFL_Man: the rest of the world uses DVB-T, we use ATSC
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[20:09:00] BillyBoBob: Sempron 2300+, no accelerated playback, during playback, CPU %: X.Org, 40%. Mythfrontend, 30%. Does this sound right?
[20:10:00] kormoc: depending on what you're playing, but yeah, it could be quite right
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[20:11:00] BillyBoBob: TV Playback (i.e. MPEG-2, bitrate 4500–6000, 720x480 (i think))
[20:11:00] kormoc: yeah, that's bout right then
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[20:13:00] ** xris pokes kormoc **
[20:13:00] kormoc: mornin' there xris
[20:13:00] Beirdo: hey, no poking in the office
[20:13:00] Beirdo: heh
[20:14:00] kormoc: he's not here today
[20:14:00] Beirdo: ahh
[20:14:00] Beirdo: that's a bit safer then
[20:15:00] xris: my anniversary. I took the day off.
[20:15:00] Beirdo: ahhh, congrats
[20:15:00] xris: of course, my wife is still at work for a bit.
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[20:15:00] Beirdo: heh, so you can get ready...
[20:15:00] xris: or slack off.
[20:15:00] xris: need to clean house for a party on sunday
[20:15:00] Beirdo: heh
[20:16:00] Beirdo: I need to replace my laptop battery
[20:16:00] Beirdo: and I finally remembered to bring it in
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[20:16:00] Beirdo: puzzle pirates is f'ing impossible to play on a 500MHz G3 iBook
[20:18:00] BillyBoBob: kormoc: thanks. It was higher then I expected.
[20:19:00] kormoc: BillyBoBob, tis why we all love hardware accelleration :)
[20:20:00] xris: ahh, there she is. guess I go away now.
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[20:20:00] Beirdo: enjoy, xris
[20:20:00] Beirdo: well, enjoy your wife :)
[20:20:00] Beirdo: heh
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[20:27:00] didj: hmm
[20:28:00] didj: i need to cut out a really small section, but it keeps saying the "you are close to a cut-point", with move options n stuff
[20:28:00] didj: how can i tell it to insert a new cutpoint (if possible..)
[20:33:00] xris: didj: I hate that.
[20:34:00] Baylink: Is it possible to make the minimum-cutpoint-size configureable in setup? Or is this an MPEG-Long GOP issue?
[20:34:00] xris: cutpoint shouldn't have anything to do with gop
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[20:35:00] xris: but no clue about setup. would be a handy feature, though
[20:35:00] rjune: what library does myth's import CD fuctions use to lookup CDs?
[20:35:00] Baylink: Well, I can see that it might be hard to cut down below the GOP size, but...
[20:35:00] Beirdo: ldd it
[20:35:00] Baylink: 20 seconds seems to be the minimum length, from my experiments.
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[20:36:00] Baylink: Yes, rjune: ldd will tell you what libraries a binary wants to load.
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[20:37:00] xris: Baylink: cutlist is for playback, not cutting.
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[20:37:00] xris: well, not in that sense directly.
[20:37:00] xris: can playback and stop mid-gop if you want, no problem.
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[20:57:00] Baylink: xris: "huh?" (not cutting)
[20:58:00] xris: Baylink: it cuts during playback, not the files themselves... no need for GOP during playback.
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[20:59:00] Baylink: Well, yes, but the same cutlist is used for transcoding, no? So I assumed that was the source of the limit.
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[21:01:00] cassiopea: Hey. There isn't currently an XMLTV grabber program for my country, however I've found the apropriate XMLTV files on the net, can I manually enable them?
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[21:09:00] stoffel_: cassiopea: sure, have a look at mythfilldatabase
[21:15:00] cassiopea: stoffel_, what's that xmltv listings usefull for, anyway?
[21:16:00] stoffel_: they contain all the tv schedules
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[21:17:00] cassiopea: stoffel_, I don't care what the tv schedule is, do I need to have the listings?
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[21:18:00] Beirdo: just curious... why bother with mythtv if you aren't going to schedule recordings?
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[21:18:00] stoffel_: how do you want to schedule recordings?
[21:19:00] stoffel_: it could be possible to do without listings though, just not very conveniient
[21:20:00] Beirdo: yeah, not very convenient at all
[21:20:00] cassiopea: I've never used mythtv, but it's such a damn schlepp to get it installed. Thing is, I'm not gonna get listings, coz there aren't any for my country, except if you have satellite, which I don't
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[21:20:00] cassiopea: Can't I just set a date and time and have mythtv record then? MUST I have the listings if I want to schedule recordings?
[21:22:00] mchou: Does anyone know how to disable host protection area detection in 2.6 kernels?
[21:22:00] Beirdo: what does that have to do with myth?
[21:22:00] mchou: Beirdo: it has to do with partitioning for myth.
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[21:23:00] Beirdo: it's more a #linux type of question, I'd think
[21:23:00] Beirdo: or a google question :)
[21:23:00] Beirdo: I doubt any of us here have even considered such a thing
[21:23:00] mchou: google didnt have jack shit on this.
[21:24:00] Beirdo: then that's likely the collective knowledge out there, good luck
[21:24:00] mchou: crappy western digital.
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[21:25:00] Beirdo: that's a bit redundant
[21:25:00] stoffel_: cassiopea: i think it's possible to do without listings though, just not very conveniient. mythtv has a manual recording feature.
[21:26:00] stoffel_: afk, cy tomorrow
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[22:00:00] Moulinex: How can i fix this problem? "DVB#0 ERROR – No PIDS set, please correct your channel setup. "
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[22:07:00] cassiopea: I'm having a bunch of trouble with XMLTV. I have a file I'd like to use as a listing, which is supposed to be XMLTV-compatible, but when I try to run mythfilldatabase with that file, it complains that there's an error with the file. Could anyone perhaps just give me an example of such an XMLTV listing file, so I can try and figr out if what's wrong with the file I've got
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[22:17:00] _Nero_: Say, is there any list of what is new in the CVS version over 0.18?
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[22:18:00] ** Beirdo slaps _Nero_ with the channel FAQ :) **
[22:19:00] Beirdo: welcome back, BTW
[22:19:00] _Nero_: oh.. sorry.. :(
[22:19:00] _Nero_: Thanks Bierdo..
[22:19:00] _Nero_: sorry for violating the dumbass rule.. ;)
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[22:21:00] jonK: that's a pretty light trigger on the trout today
[22:22:00] ** kormoc trout slaps himself in the foot. **
[22:22:00] kormoc: Ow!
[22:22:00] mchou: jonK: not to mention that dude was from Princeton :)
[22:23:00] _Nero_: was???
[22:23:00] _Nero_: I still am.. :p
[22:23:00] ** kormoc laughs **
[22:23:00] mchou: _Nero_: you have much to learn then, my young jedi..... :)
[22:23:00] kormoc: or are you?
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[22:24:00] kormoc: oh christ, creepy guy in starfighter vibes from mchou again.
[22:24:00] kormoc: _Nero_, don't eat any candy he gives you!
[22:24:00] _Nero_: simple question, trying not to have to delve through "myth commit: rxxxx" after "myth commit: rxxxx" to get an idea of what is changing.. ;)
[22:24:00] mchou: kormoc: huh??
[22:24:00] jams: _Nero_, what happened to that theme you were workng on?
[22:24:00] _Nero_: thanks for the warning kormoc..
[22:24:00] kormoc: _Nero_, and if he asks if you want to suck on his lightsaber, say no...
[22:24:00] _Nero_: jams- my PhD thesis and getting married, unfortunately..
[22:24:00] kormoc: mchou, tring to be funny, and failing it appears :P
[22:24:00] jonK: you sound like you leanred that the hard way
[22:25:00] kormoc: jonK, nah, but others have, others have...
[22:25:00] mchou: _Nero_: you in the physics or mathe dept?
[22:25:00] _Nero_: mchou- nope. Civil Engineering.
[22:25:00] mchou: _Nero_: bah
[22:25:00] _Nero_: Those math and physics guys here are CRAZY.. ;)
[22:25:00] mchou: hehe
[22:26:00] mchou: _Nero_: more true than you can imagine :)
[22:26:00] _Nero_: I drink with em down at the D-Bar frequently.. Them, and the seminarians SCARE me..
[22:26:00] mchou: haha!
[22:27:00] jonK: nothing worse than the gang from cambridge i'd wager
[22:27:00] mchou: lol, I am from Cambridge, MA :)
[22:27:00] _Nero_: jams- there was also rumor that the theme format was going to change considerably, so I was kind of waiting for that to happen.. and it doesnt seem like it has happened yet.
[22:28:00] mchou: _Nero_: why you using xmltv anyways??
[22:28:00] mchou: like doesnt datadirect work for you?
[22:28:00] _Nero_: xmltv??
[22:28:00] _Nero_: that aint me.. I am using datadirect..
[22:28:00] mchou: oh, sorry, my mistal\ke :)
[22:28:00] _Nero_: I was the dope asking about the cvs stuff.. ;)
[22:28:00] mchou: yeah.
[22:29:00] mchou: well well.
[22:30:00] mchou: guys, do you think this is a good deal? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814133143
[22:30:00] mchou: look carefully at the breakout box.
[22:30:00] mchou: has component out too.
[22:31:00] _Nero_: humm.. does that remote work in lirc?
[22:31:00] mchou: never mind the tuner, it doesnt work in linux.
[22:32:00] mchou: it's the X10/ATI/Niveus remote.
[22:32:00] _Nero_: doesnt look like a bad deal for $70
[22:32:00] mchou: personally I wouldnt touch that remote, only because it's RF.
[22:32:00] _Nero_: gotcha..
[22:33:00] mchou: but it works in linux no problems
[22:33:00] _Nero_: whats wrong with RF then?
[22:33:00] mchou: are there any coponents tou have that are RF? :)
[22:34:00] mchou: components you*
[22:34:00] _Nero_: true.. true..
[22:34:00] _Nero_: though currently my only components are my myht box, and a TV..
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[22:34:00] _Nero_: oh.. and an IR controlled DTV box
[22:35:00] mchou: get a one-for-all JP1 remote from rat shack, you'd be set.
[22:35:00] mchou: no need for silly RF.
[22:35:00] _Nero_: Yeah.. I am using the Hughes remote for the DTV box..
[22:35:00] _Nero_: the aux button controlls the TV, and myth box..
[22:35:00] _Nero_: and the myth box controlls the DTV Box..
[22:36:00] _Nero_: but I've been thinking of getting a used Pronto..
[22:36:00] _Nero_: That will help the wife confusion/frustration factor by an order of magnitude..
[22:36:00] mchou: wonder if this card would be beefy enough for ATSC.
[22:37:00] mchou: _Nero_: no!!!
[22:37:00] mchou: dont get pronto.
[22:37:00] _Nero_: why not?
[22:37:00] mchou: tactile buttons, man!
[22:37:00] mchou: dont fumble in the dark!
[22:37:00] _Nero_: The wife really could use picture buttons, that change to tell her exactly what to do.. ;)
[22:38:00] mchou: all this new fangle tech dont work worth jack.
[22:38:00] _Nero_: A good buddy of mine has one, and is very happy with it.. shrug..
[22:38:00] mchou: when I use the remote I dont want to be looking down at it.
[22:39:00] _Nero_: remember.. I am saying this is for the wife factor..
[22:39:00] _Nero_: when it comes to technology (ex- using something more than a very basic remote) she needs to be hand held..
[22:39:00] Beirdo: _Nero_: don't diss the wife, this IS a logged channel :)
[22:39:00] mchou: what's wrong with the wife factor on a JP1 remote??
[22:40:00] mchou: works perfect. and intuitive too.
[22:40:00] _Nero_: I'm not dissing her..
[22:40:00] _Nero_: she would be the first to admit it.. she HATES trying to figure out all my damn remotes.. lol
[22:40:00] mchou: wives just have "higher standards"
[22:40:00] _Nero_: mchou- does it have buttons specifically for DVR functions??
[22:40:00] mchou: _Nero_: like what?
[22:41:00] mchou: need some examples.
[22:41:00] _Nero_: like "program guide" and "schedule recordings" etc...
[22:41:00] mchou: yeah, more or less.
[22:41:00] mchou: there is the cursor.
[22:41:00] _Nero_: the or less is the part where she loses it.. ;)
[22:41:00] mchou: and you can map functions to ANY button.
[22:42:00] _Nero_: I picture the pronto working like this- she clicks on "guide" and then the screen changes, and shows her all the guide buttons..
[22:42:00] mchou: bah, JP1 remote does that.
[22:42:00] _Nero_: She gets confused by things like this..
[22:43:00] _Nero_: she hits "guide".. it brings up the program guide.. she finds a program that is on, on another channel, and hits "enter".. instead of taking her to the channel, it takes her to the recording options..
[22:43:00] GreyFoxx: My GF loves my remote (she is also the only use of myth music in the house) . She can pause/mute/change volume from anywhere. She turns on the music while doing dishes and other stuff and just brings the remote with her
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[22:44:00] GreyFoxx: The VFD on this one looks nifty http://www.pcalchemy.com/product_info.php/pNa . . . ote-controls
[22:44:00] mchou: I think JP1'a are more than good enough for the spousal factor.
[22:45:00] mchou: lol.
[22:45:00] mchou: more useless junk.
[22:45:00] GreyFoxx: In your opinion
[22:46:00] GreyFoxx: If I have a use for it, it is by definition not useless
[22:46:00] mchou: how many times have you ever lokked at a VFD?
[22:46:00] mchou: looked*
[22:46:00] GreyFoxx: Of course the main thing I want is a frontpanel of a pause/play /etc
[22:46:00] GreyFoxx: Quite often actually
[22:46:00] mchou: then you doing something wrong.
[22:46:00] GreyFoxx: then you just can't see any situation but your own :)
[22:46:00] _Nero_: mchou- you are quite opinionated,a rent ya.. ;)
[22:47:00] mchou: I'm serious. Gimme a reason why you NEED a VFD
[22:47:00] GreyFoxx: I'd love a frontpanel with pause/play/volume/etc/. That'd be nifty
[22:47:00] _Nero_: mchou- give me a reason you NEED a MythTV Box??
[22:47:00] GreyFoxx: mchou give me a REASON by you NEED a mythbox ?
[22:48:00] _Nero_: haha
[22:48:00] mchou: it's not like you ever walk up to the front panel and start mucking with it.
[22:48:00] GreyFoxx: It's about personal convienience and choice
[22:48:00] mchou: I NEED a mythbox because I dont want to watch commercials.
[22:48:00] GreyFoxx: If I had a pause/play button I would use them a lot. That I would like most of all
[22:48:00] GreyFoxx: You just said it. "want" not need.
[22:48:00] mchou: (Which is a perfectly VALID reason.
[22:49:00] GreyFoxx: Oh, I see, anything YOU want is valid, anyone isn't.
[22:49:00] mchou: GreyFoxx: lemme rephrase then: I dont need to watch commercials.
[22:50:00] GreyFoxx: and I don't need a VFD/ frontpanel controls. However doesn't make my want invalid, nor does it make the item useless
[22:50:00] GreyFoxx: Uneeded sure, but that's another matter
[22:50:00] _Nero_: There are other solutions for that mchou.. this you dont "NEED" a mythbox..
[22:50:00] xris: new svn mythweb for those who are interested...
[22:50:00] mchou: Like how many times you walk up to your stereo receiver and start mucking with VFD?
[22:50:00] xris: (ajax support for deleting programs quickly)
[22:50:00] GreyFoxx: what's ajax ?
[22:51:00] _Nero_: nice xris! :)
[22:51:00] xris: GreyFoxx: wikipedia
[22:51:00] xris: _Nero_: not my patch, but it was a pain to get it to apply cleanly.
[22:52:00] _Nero_: I've been working on a good deal of ajax like code for an image gallery software.. very cool stuff..
[22:52:00] ** GreyFoxx ponders taking a nap. what a long sh*tty day **
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[22:53:00] _Nero_: GreyFoxx- just dont use sheets on your bed.. they are a complete waste and should never be used.
[22:53:00] _Nero_: (since I dont want sheets)
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[22:54:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[22:54:00] mchou: _Nero_: lol, you sound like a grad student
[22:54:00] GreyFoxx: He sounds like you :)
[22:54:00] mchou: dont need no stinking sheets :)
[22:54:00] GreyFoxx: At the moment I'm so tired it wouldn';t matter. I could sleep here on the flooy
[22:54:00] _Nero_: Bingo GreyFoxx.. ;)
[22:54:00] GreyFoxx: Just got my kid to bed. She has been up all night
[22:55:00] _Nero_: Grad students.. we sleep in our office, the library.. rarely at home..
[22:55:00] GreyFoxx: First she wouldn't sleep, then my father-in-law passed away at 2am, then a night/day of crying people and millionms of phone calls, and finally I got her to sleep
[22:56:00] _Nero_: GeryFoxx- terribly sorry to hear that! :(
[22:56:00] GreyFoxx: sucky stuff. Been coming for years, but still sucks when it happens
[22:56:00] laga: re
[22:56:00] _Nero_: Most definitely.. My grandmother is in the same boat- its going to happen soon, we all know it.. but it doesnt make it any easier..
[22:57:00] GreyFoxx: hrm, but I wanna see this theme I've been goofing with on the TV instead of just on my monitor first.
[22:57:00] laga: GreyFoxx: i'm sorry. hope you and your fmaily will be ok soon.
[22:57:00] laga: family*
[22:58:00] GreyFoxx: thanks
[23:02:00] CCFL_Man: a vfd or lcd display on the front of the box will look kick ass
[23:03:00] CCFL_Man: so anyone here use a dvb-s card?
[23:04:00] CCFL_Man: i want one to use with FTA
[23:04:00] GreyFoxx: laga: I started a theme, mostly just to goof around. a little Project Mayhem 3 clone. http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/mythvideosnap.jpg
[23:05:00] _Nero_: GreyFoxx- I like it! :)
[23:05:00] ** _Nero_ thinks maybe he should open source his theme so that someone can finish it.. ;) **
[23:05:00] laga: GreyFoxx: looks awesome. you got to work on the 'p' of 'player' ;)
[23:05:00] laga: i wish i knew how to make themes
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[23:05:00] GreyFoxx: yeah I know. Gonna put cover/posters under the list of directories
[23:06:00] GreyFoxx: laga: I just copied and existing one and started changing the xmls files. to see what would happen
[23:06:00] GreyFoxx: I've got a MUCH better idea now
[23:06:00] GreyFoxx: so I then started from scratch
[23:06:00] laga: nice
[23:06:00] GreyFoxx: and I'm using the backgrounds from project mayhem (obviously without permission, so I'll ask them about it)
[23:06:00] laga: i've got so many things to finish. thanks god that i have 6 weeks of vacation now, but i'm way too lazy to get anything done ;)
[23:07:00] GreyFoxx: if they complain I'll just keep it for my self. I just wanted something that looked nicer
[23:07:00] laga: i'd appreciate a private copy in my inbox ;)
[23:07:00] GreyFoxx: haha
[23:07:00] GreyFoxx: It's quite a ways from being done. though that could be arranged :)
[23:08:00] laga: looking forward to it ;)
[23:08:00] _Nero_: would this one be worth finishing? http://mdobossy.student.princeton.edu/~nero/oldfilmss.jpg
[23:08:00] ** GreyFoxx goes to sleep **
[23:08:00] laga: i'd love to continue working on my ltsp+mythtv stuff, but glibc won't build here. giotta look into it tomorrow.
[23:09:00] laga: GreyFoxx: have an awesome sleep, and feel better tomorrow! ;)
[23:10:00] laga: _Nero_: yep. even if _you_ don't consider it to be a good theme, it's refreshingly different from the other stuff
[23:10:00] _Nero_: maybe I should then.. I made it up for 0.16.. wonder how much theme stuff has changed since then.
[23:11:00] laga: dunno, but i don't want to know ;). i too wonder if it's a lot.
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[23:11:00] laga: the mythui stuff in 0.19 is going to be awesome.
[23:11:00] _Nero_: yeah??
[23:11:00] _Nero_: How soon is that coming out? is it in CVS already?
[23:11:00] _Nero_: if so, maybe I should run CVS, and start updating it for CVS..
[23:11:00] _Nero_: so that it would be ready to go for 0.19
[23:12:00] laga: _Nero_: there is mythuitest. but i'm afraid there's not much else in SVN yet
[23:12:00] _Nero_: gotcha..
[23:12:00] laga: you want SVN ;)
[23:12:00] _Nero_: SVN?
[23:12:00] laga: _Nero_: but take a look at mythuitest. it still makes me drool. it's like mythtv on steroids, with openGL and everything.
[23:12:00] _Nero_: I have a few other ideas for themes.. just keep hearing about the next be jump in theme stuff, so I keepputting them out..
[23:12:00] _Nero_: WOW.. thats what I am talking about! :)
[23:12:00] laga: _Nero_: subversion. mythtv changed vom cvs to svn
[23:13:00] _Nero_: ahhhhh.. gotcha..
[23:13:00] laga: :)
[23:13:00] laga: it looks really awesome
[23:13:00] _Nero_: not up to date on all this stuff.. ;)
[23:13:00] laga: heh ;)
[23:13:00] _Nero_: will it for sure be in 0.19?
[23:13:00] laga: that's what i hear.
[23:13:00] laga: ask Chutt the next time he's around :)
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[23:14:00] _Nero_: Will do..
[23:14:00] laga: brb, gotta have a smoke...
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[23:14:00] _Nero_: cool
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[23:20:00] cassiopea: Hey. I'm having some trouble getting audio in mythtv. Whenever I try to watch tv, it says that it can't create audio output, and then asks me if I want to continue without sound, or go back to the menu. In the console, it basically just says that I mustn't deactivate OSS audio, but I have OSS audio enabled on my system
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[23:21:00] CCFL_Man: Linux (none) 2.1.24-TiVo-2.5 #6 Tue Apr 9 19:18:29 PDT 2002 ppc unknown
[23:21:00] laga: re
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[23:23:00] laga: Trying 192.168.0.27...
[23:23:00] laga: telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No route to host
[23:23:00] laga: shit. now i was going to show off with my set top box, but it's unreachable.
[23:24:00] laga:
[23:24:00] laga: much better.
[23:25:00] snL20_: when I try to extract firmware from my cd using ivtvfwextract.pl I get and error
[23:26:00] snL20_: ./ivtvfwextract.pl: Can't open /tmp/ivtvex.1151/hcwpvrp2.sys: No such file
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[23:31:00] specialsauce: if I have just one system with a tv card and i do not want to setup myth in a multiple user environment, do I still need to setup mysql?
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[23:33:00] mchou: mysql must be used with mythtv regardless how many users you have.
[23:33:00] snL20_: specialsauce: apparently, yeah, the good thing is that there is a script for it
[23:34:00] specialsauce: snL20_, where could i find this script?
[23:34:00] snL20_: the bad thing for me, is that though i've setup mysql, backend, frontend and ivtv driver it still wont work
[23:35:00] snL20_: specialsauce: hang on
[23:35:00] snL20_: /mythtv-0.18.1/database/mc.sql
[23:35:00] specialsauce: snL20_, k, cool, thank you
[23:36:00] snL20_: specialsauce: what card do you have ?
[23:36:00] mchou: haha, this is rich: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4773390
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[23:38:00] specialsauce: snL20_, I have the pvr-250
[23:41:00] cassiopea: Hey. I'm having some trouble getting audio in mythtv. Whenever I try to watch tv, it says that it can't create audio output, and then asks me if I want to continue without sound, or go back to the menu. In the console, it basically just says that I mustn't deactivate OSS audio, but I have OSS audio enabled on my system
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[23:45:00] KillerBun: cassiopea, does sound work outside of Mythtv?
[23:45:00] Tommck: atchun – my /etc/fstab is: http://pastebin.ca/18660
[23:45:00] Tommck: oh.. damn... looks like he's gone :(
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[23:45:00] Tommck: crap... wrong friggin room.
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[23:50:00] Moulinex: Anyone awaik? i have problem.. mythfilldatabase has found channels ok(?) but when i start frontend i my backend will report eventually that "Couldn't read data from the capture card in 15 seconds. Stopping"
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[23:54:00] cassiopea: KillerBun, yes, it does
[23:56:00] cassiopea: KillerBun, well, I know that ALSA works, I'm not sure whether OSS works, coz all my applications are compiled for only ALSA support
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[23:59:00] snL20_: anyone have any idea on where to get the firmware I need ?

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