| Tuesday, July 26th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | juski: | lol Beirdo |
| [00:00:00] | Beirdo: | heck, my TV's been off for over a week |
| [00:00:00] | juski: | LasseL: what was it called... tv_grab_something is a little more than vague |
| [00:01:00] | LasseL: | if I select the danish channel guide from the mythtv-setup it compains that it can't find tv_grab_dk |
| [00:01:00] | LasseL: | when i try to fill the database |
| [00:01:00] | Beirdo: | did you install xmltv? |
| [00:01:00] | LasseL: | yes |
| [00:01:00] | juski: | is xmltv installed to the right path? |
| [00:01:00] | juski: | I mean do you have a symlink in /usr/bin |
| [00:01:00] | LasseL: | I think so, I just used the mythtv packages for ubuntu |
| [00:02:00] | juski: | from /usr/share/xmltv/whatever |
| [00:02:00] | vegbox: | when the zap2it subscription expires |
| [00:02:00] | vegbox: | will we have to pay for that service? |
| [00:02:00] | LasseL: | actually I don't have it installed *blush* |
| [00:02:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [00:02:00] | Beirdo: | go read their forums |
| [00:03:00] | Beirdo: | you renew it |
| [00:03:00] | Beirdo: | by filling in another survey |
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| [00:05:00] | juski: | it's a small price to pay for erm... not paying a price |
| [00:05:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [00:05:00] | Beirdo: | precisely |
| [00:05:00] | mchou: | sigh, I'm listening to MacHeil News Hour on PSB |
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| [00:05:00] | mchou: | the Brits screwed up BIG TIME |
| [00:06:00] | juski: | what have we done now? |
| [00:06:00] | Beirdo: | like the Yanks haven't |
| [00:06:00] | mchou: | killing an innocent Brazilian |
| [00:06:00] | juski: | oh yeah that |
| [00:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | what happened ? |
| [00:06:00] | juski: | it was our govt & police – not us brits |
| [00:06:00] | mchou: | who had nothing to do with terrorism |
| [00:06:00] | ** Beirdo remembers the 100k innocent Iraqis... ** | |
| [00:06:00] | juski: | GreyFoxx... our plain clothes police shot dead a suspected terrorist |
| [00:06:00] | Beirdo: | everybody screws up |
| [00:06:00] | mchou: | juski: well, that's what I meant |
| [00:07:00] | juski: | pinned him to the ground, restrained his arms and shot him 5 times in the head |
| [00:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh |
| [00:07:00] | mchou: | juski: except he was not a terrorist. |
| [00:07:00] | Beirdo: | oh that was a class act |
| [00:07:00] | juski: | and then it turned out he wasn't a terrorist |
| [00:07:00] | juski: | not even vaguely |
| [00:07:00] | mchou: | just some guy wearing an overcoat in JUly. |
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| [00:08:00] | Beirdo: | just someone nuts |
| [00:08:00] | Beirdo: | ? |
| [00:08:00] | variant: | I have a question that i would like to copy/paste anyone mind? (its 9 lines) |
| [00:08:00] | Beirdo: | put it on pastebin.com |
| [00:08:00] | mchou: | I think the brits should all go out nekkid :) |
| [00:08:00] | Beirdo: | or .ca |
| [00:08:00] | juski: | and you can hardly blame him for running away when people without uniforms on, with guns confront him |
| [00:08:00] | Randall64: | pastebin.com is better for that |
| [00:08:00] | Beirdo: | juski: especially where guns are basically forbidden |
| [00:08:00] | mchou: | that way there would be a differnt kind of terror :) |
| [00:09:00] | Randall64: | Clearly if guns are banned, only the good guys have them. |
| [00:09:00] | Beirdo: | Randall64 |
| [00:09:00] | Beirdo: | not getting into that |
| [00:09:00] | juski: | well, I was confronted by plain clothes police once who just said "get in the car NOW!" |
| [00:09:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [00:09:00] | Randall64: | heh |
| [00:09:00] | mchou: | juski: really?? |
| [00:09:00] | juski: | really |
| [00:09:00] | juski: | was a few years ago |
| [00:09:00] | mchou: | juski: what the hell for? |
| [00:09:00] | Randall64: | juski: Did you run? |
| [00:09:00] | mchou: | thought you were IRA? |
| [00:09:00] | Beirdo: | my first question would be who the fuck are you and why should I get in your car ever? |
| [00:10:00] | juski: | turned out (after several failed attempts to run away and being brought to the ground)... |
| [00:10:00] | juski: | that they were looking for a guy, 6 foot 6 tall, with no hair |
| [00:10:00] | Randall64: | ahh, no wonder .xemacs is hosed: the filenames have all been uppercased |
| [00:10:00] | juski: | and I'm 5'6" for starters |
| [00:10:00] | juski: | we have drive-bys here |
| [00:10:00] | mchou: | juski: you are bald? :) |
| [00:11:00] | Beirdo: | good to know that the British oinkers are as stupid as in Canada |
| [00:11:00] | juski: | no, mchou, despite gentoo's best efforts |
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| [00:11:00] | Beirdo: | how's Fredericton? |
| [00:11:00] | variant: | ok guys here is the link, please take a look and let me know your opinions. |
| [00:11:00] | variant: | http://pastebin.com/320594 |
| [00:12:00] | juski: | manchester is pretty bad for gun crime, so if plain clothes people pointed a gun at me I'd run away too |
| [00:12:00] | Beirdo: | juski: for sure, unless they whipped out the badge |
| [00:12:00] | mchou: | variant: dude, sorry, gotta do your own HW first. |
| [00:12:00] | variant: | mchou: what? |
| [00:12:00] | juski: | I asked them why they didn't say they were police |
| [00:12:00] | mchou: | variant: the question is way too broad. |
| [00:13:00] | juski: | dumbest answer ever... "because you would have ran away if you were a criminal" DUH |
| [00:13:00] | Beirdo: | juski: yeah. if they identify themselves, and then say get in the car... I'd get in the car and wonder WTF was going on |
| [00:13:00] | juski: | I shoulda sued their ass |
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| [00:13:00] | mchou: | variant: HW==Homework |
| [00:14:00] | Beirdo: | but plainclothes, no ID... Fuck you, I'm not getting in your car willingly, that's called kidnapping |
| [00:14:00] | juski: | anyway – this business is making us brits very jittery – and not doing a whole lot of good for racial integration either |
| [00:14:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [00:14:00] | Beirdo: | I can believe it |
| [00:14:00] | mchou: | yeah, I believe that. |
| [00:14:00] | mchou: | No more curries and beer :) |
| [00:14:00] | mchou: | hehe |
| [00:15:00] | juski: | watched a great TV programme about our roots in the UK |
| [00:15:00] | Beirdo: | I expected better from UK cops though |
| [00:15:00] | juski: | we're a 'mongrel' nation |
| [00:15:00] | mchou: | haha |
| [00:15:00] | Beirdo: | so is almost every nation in the world |
| [00:15:00] | juski: | true |
| [00:15:00] | juski: | almost |
| [00:15:00] | mchou: | with bad food too :) |
| [00:16:00] | Beirdo: | not all food there is bad |
| [00:16:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [00:16:00] | Beirdo: | Scottish food is good... |
| [00:16:00] | mchou: | like what? |
| [00:16:00] | Beirdo: | never tried Welsh |
| [00:16:00] | mchou: | hagis? :) |
| [00:16:00] | Beirdo: | like haggis |
| [00:16:00] | juski: | ugh – what? like haggis? |
| [00:16:00] | juski: | roflmao |
| [00:16:00] | Beirdo: | I like it |
| [00:16:00] | mchou: | blood sausage? |
| [00:16:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [00:16:00] | Beirdo: | good stuff |
| [00:16:00] | juski: | not a fan of that either |
| [00:16:00] | mchou: | nasty. |
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| [00:17:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [00:17:00] | juski: | chinese... french, italian.. indian, thai... |
| [00:17:00] | Beirdo: | fish & chips... good stuff |
| [00:17:00] | juski: | anything but english lol |
| [00:17:00] | Beirdo: | boiled meat... I'll pass |
| [00:17:00] | mchou: | juski: my point exactly :) |
| [00:17:00] | Beirdo: | Irish is good too |
| [00:17:00] | juski: | roast beef |
| [00:17:00] | juski: | that's what we do really well |
| [00:17:00] | Beirdo: | roast beef is good stuff |
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| [00:17:00] | juski: | and yorkshire puddings |
| [00:18:00] | mchou: | Irish is only good for breakfast :) |
| [00:18:00] | Beirdo: | you boil a good chunk of beef, I kick yer butt |
| [00:18:00] | juski: | pint o guinness |
| [00:18:00] | juski: | god no! |
| [00:18:00] | Beirdo: | some of the potato/cabbage meals from Ireland are good stuff |
| [00:18:00] | juski: | oven and nothing else for the beef |
| [00:18:00] | juski: | poitin... yumm |
| [00:19:00] | Beirdo: | but I'd rather eat Italian... |
| [00:19:00] | Beirdo: | or Austrian |
| [00:19:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [00:19:00] | Beirdo: | mmmmm. Wiener Schnitzel |
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| [00:19:00] | Beirdo: | I soooo miss schnitzelhaus in Vienna |
| [00:19:00] | mchou: | British cusine is an oxymoron :) |
| [00:20:00] | Beirdo: | mchou: some would say the same about intelligent American |
| [00:20:00] | mchou: | I dont see why ppl like snitzel |
| [00:20:00] | Beirdo: | soooo |
| [00:20:00] | Beirdo: | because it's tasty! |
| [00:20:00] | mchou: | I mean it's not even tasty or hard to make. |
| [00:20:00] | Beirdo: | it sure is tasty |
| [00:20:00] | mchou: | it's average at best. |
| [00:20:00] | Beirdo: | you musta had it at crappy places |
| [00:20:00] | mchou: | nope, good places. |
| [00:21:00] | mchou: | only germans and austrian patrons in there. |
| [00:21:00] | mchou: | (except me) |
| [00:21:00] | Beirdo: | OK... I guess it's not your style |
| [00:21:00] | variant: | mchou: fair enough |
| [00:21:00] | rawdlite: | mchou: was thin, did it it cover the whole plate ? |
| [00:21:00] | Beirdo: | but I'll go to schnitzelhaus over mcdonalds ANY day |
| [00:21:00] | mchou: | yeah, itw as very thin. |
| [00:22:00] | mchou: | and fairly generous portion |
| [00:22:00] | Beirdo: | very thin, cover the whole plate... and a big plate... couple slices of lemon |
| [00:22:00] | Beirdo: | mmmm |
| [00:22:00] | variant: | mchou: but is mythtv capable of all those tasks? minus the games and web browsing |
| [00:22:00] | mchou: | variant: yup. |
| [00:22:00] | mchou: | even games. |
| [00:22:00] | mchou: | and emulators :) |
| [00:22:00] | Beirdo: | tried other types of schnitzel too, liked them too |
| [00:22:00] | variant: | even the streaming to other boxes (windows boxes) |
| [00:22:00] | variant: | ? |
| [00:23:00] | mchou: | with other SW, of course |
| [00:23:00] | Beirdo: | I like German and Austrian cuisine. |
| [00:23:00] | variant: | yeah |
| [00:23:00] | variant: | i was thinking videolan for data streaming |
| [00:23:00] | juski: | ugh did someone say Mcdonalds? |
| [00:23:00] | juski: | ffs! |
| [00:23:00] | Beirdo: | if you don't like pork or veal, your choices go way down though |
| [00:23:00] | kormoc: | juski, Mmm... McDonalds! |
| [00:23:00] | juski: | burger king! |
| [00:23:00] | mchou: | veal and pork is fine |
| [00:23:00] | ** kormoc throws a big mac at juski ** | |
| [00:24:00] | mchou: | BK makes a decent burger. |
| [00:24:00] | Beirdo: | mchou: then you'd be fine :) |
| [00:24:00] | ** juski throws an MCE install disk at kormoc ** | |
| [00:24:00] | kormoc: | BK makes fatty, tasty burgers. |
| [00:24:00] | Beirdo: | God help the vegetarians in Vienna |
| [00:24:00] | mchou: | Carls Jr. is probably better though |
| [00:24:00] | variant: | what sort of cpu does a typical pvr need for flawless performance? |
| [00:24:00] | kormoc: | McDonalds makes cheap, greese filled meat like pattys. |
| [00:24:00] | Beirdo: | I'm sure it's much the same where rawdlite is |
| [00:24:00] | juski: | variant: depends what kind of TV you wanna watch |
| [00:24:00] | mchou: | variant: that's the wrong question. |
| [00:25:00] | juski: | if HDTV – you need like 3GHz |
| [00:25:00] | rawdlite: | well berlin caters some foreign cuisine |
| [00:25:00] | juski: | my dual tuner 800mhz athlon worked just fine for recording & viewing SDTV in PAL |
| [00:25:00] | Beirdo: | ah, Berlin.. yeah, you'll get a variety |
| [00:25:00] | mchou: | hell, My P2 450Mhz works. |
| [00:25:00] | Beirdo: | it was interesting eating Greek food down at the Danube... |
| [00:26:00] | Beirdo: | just something wrong with that |
| [00:26:00] | rawdlite: | but for good german food you have to go down south |
| [00:26:00] | mchou: | heh, I bet |
| [00:26:00] | Beirdo: | aye |
| [00:26:00] | Beirdo: | I like Bavarian food, I guess |
| [00:26:00] | rawdlite: | below the old roman border, the Limes |
| [00:26:00] | mchou: | you guys ever try steak tatare? |
| [00:27:00] | Beirdo: | but damn is it fattening |
| [00:27:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [00:27:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, ever have moroccan? |
| [00:27:00] | Beirdo: | not interested in raw beef |
| [00:27:00] | mchou: | hehe |
| [00:27:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: not yet :) |
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| [00:27:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: you havent lived. |
| [00:27:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, ooh, it's *so* yummy |
| [00:27:00] | Beirdo: | I could live on Lebanese food alone though :) |
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| [00:27:00] | juski: | I was staying in Antibes once, had a real bad hangover & saw some people tucking into some steak tartare... it was nearly pizza at my table |
| [00:27:00] | Beirdo: | I'll try moroccan sometime |
| [00:28:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: how about Ethiopian? |
| [00:28:00] | Beirdo: | I've seen shows on it... |
| [00:28:00] | Beirdo: | never |
| [00:28:00] | Randall64: | I had a moroccan sandwich that was pretty good, but then dinner there was so bland. |
| [00:28:00] | Randall64: | Ethiopian is fun. |
| [00:28:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: honey wine. |
| [00:28:00] | mchou: | that's dome good stuff. |
| [00:28:00] | Beirdo: | I regret not having gone to the restaurant by the university though |
| [00:28:00] | mchou: | some* |
| [00:28:00] | Beirdo: | mead? |
| [00:28:00] | Beirdo: | yum |
| [00:28:00] | kormoc: | Randall64, moroccan where we went was better then any Ethiopian I've had. |
| [00:29:00] | Beirdo: | moroccan is on my list of "should try" |
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| [00:29:00] | kormoc: | "On the next course transliterations vary, but whether you say chicken bastilla, pastilla, b’stella, or something else, this chicken with almonds in a cinnamon and powdered sugar pastry is amazing. " |
| [00:29:00] | Randall64: | kormoc: I liked the communal, bit dosai-type thing. |
| [00:29:00] | Randall64: | s/bit/big/ |
| [00:29:00] | Beirdo: | with the tajik (I think it is) style cooking |
| [00:29:00] | juski: | beirdo.. go to marrakech ;-) |
| [00:30:00] | Beirdo: | why? |
| [00:30:00] | kormoc: | Bisteeya is the real name of that pastry thing |
| [00:30:00] | juski: | it's cool there... lots of great food etc.. |
| [00:30:00] | kormoc: | it caused me to gain 5 lbs, but it was so worth it... |
| [00:30:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: hehe |
| [00:30:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, some decade maybe I'll make it *to* Morocco, but I'm not holding my breath |
| [00:31:00] | juski: | this'll say something about french cuisine.. I went away on business for 7 weeks.. lost 2 stone in weight (36 lbs) |
| [00:31:00] | Beirdo: | I thought a stone was 14lbs? |
| [00:31:00] | juski: | and that was on the company tab |
| [00:31:00] | mchou: | juski: haha |
| [00:31:00] | Beirdo: | bad memory, I guess |
| [00:31:00] | juski: | well it was 2 stone anwyay lol |
| [00:31:00] | mchou: | juski: did you starve? |
| [00:31:00] | Beirdo: | impressive either way |
| [00:31:00] | juski: | we didn't do imperial measures at school |
| [00:31:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [00:31:00] | mchou: | juski: or it cleaned you out?? |
| [00:32:00] | mchou: | hehe |
| [00:32:00] | juski: | it was perfectly fine... |
| [00:32:00] | juski: | and no way did I starve |
| [00:32:00] | juski: | lol |
| [00:32:00] | juski: | not if the company was paying :D |
| [00:32:00] | mchou: | then how did you lose weight? |
| [00:32:00] | mchou: | I dont get it. |
| [00:32:00] | juski: | less fat? |
| [00:33:00] | juski: | ;-) |
| [00:33:00] | kormoc: | the food is just solid air |
| [00:33:00] | kormoc: | yum yum! |
| [00:33:00] | juski: | and long shifts on the beach lol |
| [00:33:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, I'm going home |
| [00:33:00] | ** kormoc waves ** | |
| [00:35:00] | juski: | tried commercial flagging last weekend... didn't work too well on DVB-T recordings... damn MPEG thingy |
| [00:36:00] | mchou: | Is it ever a good idea to reallocate blocks marked bad? |
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| [00:36:00] | mchou: | Assuming you go a "repave" |
| [00:36:00] | mchou: | s/go/do |
| [00:36:00] | Randall64: | Make them swap space. |
| [00:37:00] | juski: | btw – heads up here – been testing WD3200JB disks at work... fresh out of the box.. fatal SMART errors on all 70 I tested |
| [00:38:00] | mchou: | dude, for ral?? |
| [00:38:00] | mchou: | real* |
| [00:38:00] | mchou: | it sounds like bad cable :) |
| [00:39:00] | mchou: | are these retail or OEM? |
| [00:39:00] | juski: | not retail |
| [00:39:00] | juski: | random tests out of a couple of pallet loads |
| [00:39:00] | mchou: | juski: heh, that's probaly why. |
| [00:39:00] | mchou: | "Mishandling" |
| [00:40:00] | mchou: | or worse, factory seconds. |
| [00:40:00] | juski: | brand new |
| [00:40:00] | mchou: | factory seconds are brand new too :) |
| [00:40:00] | juski: | well these were allegedly full-spec units |
| [00:41:00] | mchou: | what capcities are these? |
| [00:41:00] | mchou: | 200GB? |
| [00:41:00] | juski: | 320GB |
| [00:41:00] | mchou: | hmm. |
| [00:42:00] | mchou: | what's the smart eroor msg? |
| [00:42:00] | juski: | WD have been silent about the root cause on 30 of them we sent back |
| [00:42:00] | mchou: | error* |
| [00:42:00] | juski: | shock counters off the scale |
| [00:43:00] | mchou: | heh, that's definitely mishandling then. |
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| [00:43:00] | mchou: | blame shipping ppl. |
| [00:44:00] | juski: | we would, but replacements sufferred the same fate |
| [00:44:00] | mchou: | well, replacements needed to be shipped too :) |
| [00:45:00] | juski: | well upshot of the whole debacle is we've dropped WD |
| [00:46:00] | mchou: | that's rather unfortunate |
| [00:46:00] | Randall64: | I learned not to buy WD 10 years ago. |
| [00:46:00] | juski: | maxtor bringing out 500GB units in september |
| [00:46:00] | Randall64: | I've been burned by most of them but Seagate. |
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| [00:47:00] | ** juski touches wood.. only ever had IBM deathstar die on me ** | |
| [00:48:00] | ** kormoc only buys WD ** | |
| [00:49:00] | amorphix: | SCSI is the way to go |
| [00:49:00] | juski: | SAS? |
| [00:49:00] | amorphix: | faster and more reliable |
| [00:49:00] | juski: | and smaller... and more expensive... |
| [00:49:00] | juski: | and hotter |
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| [00:50:00] | amorphix: | more heat = less on heating in winter |
| [00:50:00] | amorphix: | ;-) |
| [00:50:00] | amorphix: | my SCSI drive farts every 20 mins |
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| [00:54:00] | BillyBoBob: | anyone here know mythweather configuration-fu? |
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| [00:57:00] | ** juski takes a swig of some Jack Daniels... ** | |
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| [01:03:00] | juski: | BillyBoBob... configuration-fu? |
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| [01:06:00] | amorphix: | whisky will put hairs on yer chest |
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| [01:07:00] | juski: | whisky.. and compiling your own kernel |
| [01:07:00] | amorphix: | hehe yes |
| [01:08:00] | BillyBoBob: | juski: config expert. OK, I don't really need an expert, just how to turn of satellite photo part |
| [01:08:00] | juski: | hmmmm |
| [01:08:00] | juski: | you could fuddle the xml file I guess |
| [01:08:00] | ** BillyBoBob takes another drink of his screwdriver as his liquor cabinet is almost empty ** | |
| [01:09:00] | juski: | or rake into the source & bypass it there |
| [01:09:00] | BillyBoBob: | I was *trying* to avoid the source, but I am willing to bet it takes less time then otherwise... |
| [01:10:00] | juski: | I don't think many people are fond of dipping into the source... not us mere mortals anyway |
| [01:11:00] | BillyBoBob: | source I don't mind so much, it is the 1 zillion toolkits I will have to install |
| [01:11:00] | BillyBoBob: | well, guess I could do it on my devel machine... |
| [01:12:00] | juski: | toolkits? all you need is a text editor innit? |
| [01:12:00] | kormoc: | your mythbox isn't a dev machine?! |
| [01:12:00] | ** kormoc blinks. ** | |
| [01:12:00] | BillyBoBob: | lol |
| [01:12:00] | BillyBoBob: | the front-end isn't... |
| [01:12:00] | BillyBoBob: | toolkits, i.e. xxx-devel where xxx consists of a large set |
| [01:13:00] | juski: | all my myth boxes are now officially 'production' machines |
| [01:13:00] | LasseL: | a bttv cad translates to a "standard v4l card" in mythtv-setup, right? |
| [01:13:00] | LasseL: | s/cad/card |
| [01:13:00] | kormoc: | LasseL, indeed |
| [01:13:00] | juski: | got very bored with it since it just works all the time |
| [01:13:00] | LasseL: | thanks |
| [01:13:00] | BillyBoBob: | you know, it will want one lil ol header which will need a 10 MB tarball, which will need one more lil header whcih... |
| [01:13:00] | kormoc: | welcome |
| [01:13:00] | ** kormoc pets his gentoo machine ** | |
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| [01:16:00] | juski: | damn those dependencies |
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| [01:18:00] | BillyBoBob: | why can't apt-get support the 'search' command and just launch apt-cache? Grrr....that is just too obvious |
| [01:18:00] | juski: | ooo FC... eew |
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| [01:21:00] | LasseL: | the there a way to make the setup program run in a window instead of fullscreen? it tells me to go back to the console i used to start the setup program and check the output the script that is supposed to retrieve the list of channels for denmark (but hangs at 50%) |
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| [01:22:00] | juski: | press ALT-TAB, LasseL (if your window manager allows such things) |
| [01:22:00] | BillyBoBob: | assuming you started from an xterm, just use alt-tab |
| [01:22:00] | BillyBoBob: | heh |
| [01:23:00] | juski: | you can also side-step that move by running tv_grab_de (or whatever) --configure |
| [01:23:00] | LasseL: | i run it via vnc, it eats my alt-tab |
| [01:23:00] | LasseL: | i'll figure it out |
| [01:23:00] | juski: | or just manually edit a file... name of the file depends on what your video source is called |
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| [01:23:00] | juski: | e.g. if your source is called 'antenna' |
| [01:24:00] | juski: | edit a file in ~/.mythtv called 'antenna.xmltv' |
| [01:24:00] | juski: | and put the xmltv IDs of the channels you need in the file like this: |
| [01:24:00] | juski: | channel channel.xmltv.id |
| [01:24:00] | juski: | ;) |
| [01:24:00] | LasseL: | ok |
| [01:24:00] | LasseL: | how do i find which xmltv.id's is for what? |
| [01:25:00] | juski: | go into /usr/share/xmltv |
| [01:25:00] | juski: | then into the directory for your grabber |
| [01:25:00] | LasseL: | i use an antenna and all the tv_grab_dk programs i can find is for the cable companys channels |
| [01:25:00] | juski: | e.g. tv_grab_de |
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| [01:26:00] | juski: | there's a file called 'channel_ids' |
| [01:26:00] | juski: | look in there |
| [01:26:00] | LasseL: | ok, of course there is no "dk" one |
| [01:26:00] | juski: | hmmmm |
| [01:27:00] | juski: | cd / |
| [01:27:00] | juski: | find . -iname 'channel_ids' |
| [01:27:00] | ** pce-matty_ scratches his head ** | |
| [01:28:00] | LasseL: | i have it, de, and uk it seems .. i'll try to google for a list |
| [01:29:00] | juski: | tv_grab_de_tvtoday ? |
| [01:29:00] | pce-matty_: | got a problem here: mythdvd seems to be playing the wrong default audio track – it affects ripping as well: i select english but the resulting rip is in german |
| [01:29:00] | pce-matty_: | any pointers? |
| [01:29:00] | LasseL: | i am danish, not german :/ |
| [01:30:00] | juski: | oops sorry |
| [01:30:00] | ** juski is a bit pished ** | |
| [01:31:00] | juski: | depends very much on the source content I think, pce-matty |
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| [01:31:00] | juski: | if the first language track is german, maybe it'll default to that |
| [01:31:00] | juski: | and dvd authors aren't always the best at making rippers' work easy |
| [01:32:00] | pce-matty_: | nope, first is english, second german... it's like it's a track off... and this is in both ordinary playback and ripping |
| [01:33:00] | juski: | is that just on one dvd, or many, pce-matty? |
| [01:34:00] | juski: | if it's just the one disc it might be worth doing a manual rip |
| [01:34:00] | pce-matty_: | many, it's hard to tell if it's across the board since most dvds i have have english5,1 and english stereo as the first two tracks |
| [01:35:00] | pce-matty_: | but i have a gut feeling it's been a problem on every dvd i've used (i just haven't noticed) |
| [01:36:00] | juski: | well, I'm no expert on dvd ripping... |
| [01:37:00] | pce-matty_: | either am i :) |
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| [01:38:00] | LasseL: | I managed to find (and fix) a script that parses online listings into xml(tv) format, can i plug that in somewhere? |
| [01:38:00] | juski: | you can parse the xmltv file into the database |
| [01:39:00] | juski: | an option in the mythfilldatabase command, I believe |
| [01:39:00] | LasseL: | ok, cool |
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| [01:41:00] | juski: | mythfilldatabase --help should fill you in, I think |
| [01:41:00] | LasseL: | you are very helpful, thanks |
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| [01:45:00] | juski: | if only all mythtv issues were that simple |
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| [01:59:00] | Qwell: | You guys would know...probably moreso then anybody. I'm doing tv-out from my box, and I've got the cables and everything, but it seems to only work when its connected to the speaker port (making me have to unplug my speakers to do tv-out). Is there A) another port (I assume there is a line-out port?), and B) Do I have to do anything to make sound come out of it? |
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| [02:04:00] | juski: | Qwell: ??? |
| [02:05:00] | bradley: | hi |
| [02:05:00] | Qwell: | I'd look at the back, but I can't get to it...heh |
| [02:06:00] | bradley: | anyone got round to writing a command-line installer/setup tool for MythTV yet? to replace mythtv-setup (i.e. no need for X-Windows)? |
| [02:06:00] | Krazylegz: | You mean only for myth-backend setup? |
| [02:06:00] | juski: | well, if you want to see & hear TV on your television, you need to connect the LINE-OUT from your soundcard to the appropriate input on your TV, aswell as the requisite video connection |
| [02:07:00] | bradley: | Krazylegz: want to automate configuring a backend |
| [02:07:00] | Qwell: | juski: Thats what I'm asking...is line-out seperate from speaker? |
| [02:07:00] | juski: | or else just have the line-out connected to your speakers... but youd obviously need them switched on to hear TV sound |
| [02:07:00] | mchou: | bradley: i doubt if anyone wants to do that, and chutt probably would not accept it. |
| [02:08:00] | juski: | most soundcards only have one common output |
| [02:08:00] | Qwell: | ok, so its line-out, line-in, and mic, or something? |
| [02:08:00] | bradley: | chutt? |
| [02:08:00] | juski: | depends on the soundcard, Qwell |
| [02:08:00] | mchou: | bradley: chutt==isaac |
| [02:08:00] | juski: | my SBlive (spit!) has line-out.. no 'speaker out' |
| [02:09:00] | bradley: | Many months ago i saw someone talking about it |
| [02:09:00] | juski: | so if I want sound thru the TV I have to plug LINE OUT into the TV audio input |
| [02:09:00] | mchou: | bradley: whats the big deal anyways? |
| [02:09:00] | mchou: | bradley: hah, talk is cheap. |
| [02:09:00] | bradley: | basically building a simple distribution that will have a backend server and wanted to create the schema and set the basic up automagically upon installation |
| [02:09:00] | mchou: | bradleymust be a gentoo user. |
| [02:10:00] | mchou: | you only need x libraries, not X. |
| [02:10:00] | mchou: | so what's the big deal? |
| [02:10:00] | juski: | yeh I wasn't too fond of the 24 hour emerge time for X |
| [02:10:00] | juski: | lol |
| [02:10:00] | juski: | (that's why I used a package CD) |
| [02:11:00] | mchou: | bradley: write one yourself if you dont want the x version. |
| [02:11:00] | bradley: | mchou – not a Gentoo user, also need an X-Display to run mythtv-setup – want my mini-dist installer script to do it automagically |
| [02:11:00] | mchou: | lol. |
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| [02:12:00] | mchou: | how do you watch prerecorded myth w/o x-display? |
| [02:12:00] | mchou: | makes zero sense to me. |
| [02:12:00] | jay: | I'm getting this error when trying to compile mythtv-0.18.1: mpegvideo.c: In function `ff_copy_bits': \ mpegvideo.c:26: error: extended registers have no high halves |
| [02:12:00] | juski: | infact – why the f. does mythtv even need an OS? lol |
| [02:12:00] | bradley: | this is for a backend-only system |
| [02:12:00] | jay: | any ideas what may be causing this? |
| [02:12:00] | bradley: | backend == no display |
| [02:12:00] | mchou: | bradley: so? |
| [02:13:00] | mchou: | X forwarding over ssh. |
| [02:13:00] | jay: | I'm using debian w/ amd64 |
| [02:13:00] | mchou: | bradley: dont be a dumbass. |
| [02:14:00] | juski: | unless you're trying to squeeze it into a 32MB image... why the big fuss about not using X? |
| [02:14:00] | mchou: | exactly. |
| [02:14:00] | juski: | (amd even then...) |
| [02:14:00] | juski: | *and |
| [02:14:00] | bradley: | juski – the idea is basically stick a CD into server or boot it over network and it installs and configures everything without manual intervention.... |
| [02:15:00] | juski: | you COULD do it |
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| [02:15:00] | mchou: | bradley: hehe, how's that possible? |
| [02:15:00] | juski: | all you need to do is make a script to insert the requisite stuff into the database |
| [02:15:00] | juski: | well I say 'all' |
| [02:15:00] | mchou: | like the user would at least identify the NFS mount point. |
| [02:16:00] | mchou: | never mind the xmltv and location. |
| [02:16:00] | bradley: | juski – "all" indeed......................that's why if there was an official or semi-official command-line alternative it would beat having to reverse engineer db schemas and the like and change them after each MythTV version releaser |
| [02:16:00] | mchou: | I wonder if ppl ever think these things through. |
| [02:17:00] | juski: | well look at the database and work it out |
| [02:17:00] | bradley: | mchou – already have auto-partitin and install CD going for rest of OS |
| [02:17:00] | mchou: | yeah, it aint rocket science. |
| [02:17:00] | juski: | it's not rocket science |
| [02:17:00] | juski: | eeks – stereo |
| [02:17:00] | bradley: | guys: I know its not rocket science – just not wanted to reinvent the wheel if someone else has already done it |
| [02:18:00] | mchou: | bradley: I wasnt talking partionimg. I was talking xmltv and locale. |
| [02:18:00] | juski: | look at messed-upmythtv |
| [02:18:00] | juski: | err I mean knoppmyth |
| [02:18:00] | jay: | is there any special editing I need to do to compile mythtv for the amd64 architecture? |
| [02:19:00] | bradley: | locale not relevant as dist is only designed for a single locale. Same for xmltv – hardcoded with single country/region.... |
| [02:19:00] | mchou: | bradley: an auto install w/o manual user intervention is IMPOSSIBLE. |
| [02:19:00] | juski: | all the DB stuff... it's just capture card settings, channels & xmltv settings really – as far as mythtv-setup goes |
| [02:19:00] | mchou: | bradley: huh??? |
| [02:19:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [02:20:00] | pce-matty_: | mchou: i auto install mythtv daily with hardset backend and frontend options |
| [02:20:00] | mchou: | all of UK is on same schedule and stations? |
| [02:20:00] | LasseL: | in mythfilldatabase --file it wants a first argument <sourceid> = cardinput |
| [02:20:00] | juski: | as if... |
| [02:20:00] | LasseL: | what might that be? |
| [02:20:00] | juski: | sourceid ... is the name of the video source |
| [02:21:00] | LasseL: | and where might that be? |
| [02:21:00] | LasseL: | /dev/video0 ? |
| [02:21:00] | mchou: | pce-matty_: that's user intervention. |
| [02:21:00] | juski: | er.. what did you call the video source? |
| [02:21:00] | mchou: | pce-matty_: someone had to do the hardset options. |
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| [02:22:00] | mchou: | and know it was good for your locale. |
| [02:22:00] | LasseL: | ah, I skipped that step in the setup wizard and just created a ~./mythtv/antenna.xmltv file |
| [02:22:00] | mchou: | not to mention things like video sources. |
| [02:22:00] | juski: | LasseL.. you need to link you capture source to a 'video source' |
| [02:23:00] | juski: | I think it's time for bed.. got w*** at 8am.... |
| [02:23:00] | juski: | night all |
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| [02:23:00] | LasseL: | but all the options inside the video source screen just seems wrong .. |
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| [02:30:00] | LasseL: | the channels setup page is driving me nuts |
| [02:30:00] | LasseL: | every time i edit a channel a new one appears |
| [02:30:00] | LasseL: | and I can't delete any of them |
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| [03:01:00] | systemofadown: | can some one help me with mythweb |
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| [03:03:00] | abarbaccia: | systemofadown, whats troubling you |
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| [03:04:00] | systemofadown: | heh sorry just fixed it |
| [03:05:00] | abarbaccia: | good job |
| [03:05:00] | awstott: | I broke mine good last nite abarbaccia |
| [03:05:00] | ** pce-matty_ mutters ** | |
| [03:06:00] | awstott: | messed up mysql |
| [03:06:00] | pce-matty_: | damn non-standard audio cds |
| [03:06:00] | systemofadown: | does mythweb work with php 5 yet? |
| [03:06:00] | awstott: | and now I have broken packages |
| [03:07:00] | pce-matty_: | anyone know of a nice cd autoripping script that gracefully handles so called 'enhanced' cds? |
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| [03:14:00] | EvilBarney: | hello |
| [03:16:00] | EvilBarney: | anyone get a good workaround to the disapearing apt-get in FC3? |
| [03:19:00] | systemofadown: | yeah emerge ;) |
| [03:19:00] | EvilBarney: | emerge? |
| [03:19:00] | systemofadown: | gentpp |
| [03:19:00] | systemofadown: | *gentoo |
| [03:19:00] | EvilBarney: | ah |
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| [03:20:00] | EvilBarney: | played with lots of nix, but not gentoo yet |
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| [03:20:00] | EvilBarney: | go ahead, brainwash me why |
| [03:20:00] | EvilBarney: | I'm a clean slate, trust me... |
| [03:22:00] | systemofadown: | ur using debian i take it |
| [03:22:00] | EvilBarney: | fedora core 3 |
| [03:23:00] | EvilBarney: | also a bit of xebain on me xbox |
| [03:24:00] | EvilBarney: | there is a lot of people here for no one talking..so hush hush... |
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| [03:56:00] | TheUni: | do you guys recommend using KnoppMyth? |
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| [04:01:00] | Krazylegz: | TheUni: I'm using it to setup the system and poke around, but my real install with be Gentoo. |
| [04:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | The the best one to use is what you are most familiar with. If you are not familiar with any then knoppmyth might be a good choice since it "should" do a lot of the heavy lifting for you |
| [04:04:00] | TheUni: | Krazylegz: i've gotta admit, i'm not great with linux. i've used a few builds for a few months at a time. i can survive just fine but i'm in no way a power user. KnoppMyth seemed great because i assumed things were optimized for Mythtv, as i dont really know how to get any linux build down to it's "barebones" on my own. |
| [04:06:00] | TheUni: | is that a decent assumption? or should i start with say Gentoo and learn how to chop out the stuff i dont need? |
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| [04:07:00] | LasseL: | you might as well start with a basic install of ubuntu and add the stuff you need |
| [04:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've never actually used it :) |
| [04:07:00] | pce-matty_: | lassel: newbie's run into problems with restricted formats under ubuntu |
| [04:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | I keep meaning to look at it if only so that I can answer peoples questions about it, but never get around to it |
| [04:07:00] | TheUni: | what package management system does ubuntu use? |
| [04:07:00] | LasseL: | i have been running gentoo for the last 2,5 years and I don't miss it a second |
| [04:07:00] | TheUni: | something like apt-get ? |
| [04:08:00] | pce-matty_: | theuni: probably the easiest method to running up a system would be fedora + jarod's guide |
| [04:08:00] | TheUni: | pce-matty_: i've run a Myth system using FC3 and Jarod's guide, but it seemed clunky |
| [04:08:00] | LasseL: | I "almost" have mythtv working on ubuntu |
| [04:08:00] | pce-matty_: | the-uni: ubuntu has great package management.. synaptic over apt-get |
| [04:08:00] | TheUni: | like i installed WAY too much of fedora. |
| [04:08:00] | LasseL: | it isn't totally painful and impossible like i found it was on gentoo |
| [04:08:00] | TheUni: | k |
| [04:09:00] | TheUni: | i think i'll start with KnoppMyth and see how i feel. If it's a no-go i'll go to Ubuntu or FC3 |
| [04:09:00] | TheUni: | is fc4 out yet, btw? |
| [04:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've done so many installs now I can practically do it in my sleep |
| [04:10:00] | TheUni: | heh |
| [04:10:00] | TheUni: | GreyFoxx: what build do you use? |
| [04:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | Slackware |
| [04:10:00] | LasseL: | of mythtv? |
| [04:10:00] | TheUni: | mmm |
| [04:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | LasseL: yeah |
| [04:10:00] | TheUni: | does Mythtv install well in slack? i've never used it at all |
| [04:10:00] | ** pce-matty_ built half a dozen different myth boxes on gentoo from scratch before making his own semi-auto install disk ** | |
| [04:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've install around 20 systems for other people |
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| [04:11:00] | LasseL: | on ubuntu? |
| [04:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | pce-matty_: I setup an auto install. Takes about 4 minutes from start to finish |
| [04:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | but from scratch is 2 – 2.5 hours |
| [04:11:00] | TheUni: | mmm |
| [04:11:00] | Krazylegz: | GreyFoxx: Care to share? |
| [04:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | Krazylegz: Not really. |
| [04:12:00] | pce-matty_: | greyfoxx: takes longer for my installs, but I haven't culled the bzip file down... it's 670mb, expanding to just over 2gb |
| [04:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's very specifically customized |
| [04:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | and there are no menus. You gotta know what you are going when you install it :) |
| [04:12:00] | Krazylegz: | I figured it would be pretty custom. |
| [04:13:00] | pce-matty_: | greyfoxx: goes from zero to mythbox (with preset channels already configured for my region), guessing you've got something similar happening.. |
| [04:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | Everything preinstalled and configured. Assumes ivtv/bttv, no lirc, assumes nvidia |
| [04:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | pce-matty_: No, I just get the user to setup a zap2it account ahead of time. and they gotta have the hardware put together and ready |
| [04:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | then assuming it's not totally crap an install is about 4 minutes |
| [04:14:00] | pce-matty_: | four minutes... four minutes of user time + extraction? or including extraction? |
| [04:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | I pop in the cd, execute a couple scripts which setup/format the partitions, then extracts the distro |
| [04:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | maybe 5 minutes of user setup menus to make it the way they like |
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| [04:15:00] | pce-matty_: | and extraction time is on top of that? how big's the final install? |
| [04:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | pce 4 minutes to fdisk/format and extract the distro |
| [04:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | 5 minutes of user specific config |
| [04:16:00] | ** pce-matty_ whistles softly ** | |
| [04:16:00] | pce-matty_: | damn tight |
| [04:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | set ip, create them a system account, and configure the devices+video source to their already setup zap2it account |
| [04:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | I setup the same thing for my last unix consulting job.. installs where a breeze. I got sick of doing the same stuff over and over for every box |
| [04:18:00] | ** pce-matty_ agrees ** | |
| [04:18:00] | pce-matty_: | greyfoxx: every play with mondo as a deployment tool? |
| [04:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | I do about 1 a week for someone at work now |
| [04:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | nope |
| [04:19:00] | pce-matty_: | www.mondorescue.org |
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| [04:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'll have to take a look at it, I've seen others mention it |
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| [05:04:00] | TheUni: | anyone ever tried using mythtv off of a Flash drive? |
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| [05:05:00] | TheUni: | i'm looking at a mobile setup, and i'm trying to speed up boot time. i figure a hibernate-like setup to a flash drive would be neat. |
| [05:05:00] | TheUni: | then obviously using a regular HD for storage |
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| [05:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | anybody familiar with transcodiing via cluster? |
| [05:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am getting tired of these 2 hour transcodes |
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| [05:17:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer: yet another reason not to transcode. |
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| [05:17:00] | mchou: | I dont think a cluster will provide speedup for transcoding jobs. |
| [05:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah I guess thats true |
| [05:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am transcoding my dvds |
| [05:18:00] | mchou: | it will allow you to transcode more than one file at a time (faster) though |
| [05:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ahh I see |
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| [05:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | my 3500+ AMD64 is really dogging down on transcoding :/ |
| [05:19:00] | mchou: | hey, send if over here then :) |
| [05:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | must.... have.... more...... POWER!!!! |
| [05:19:00] | mchou: | it* |
| [05:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [05:19:00] | mchou: | I'm not joking :) |
| [05:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nah its fast a hell of alot faster than the 2700+ or my 1.4ghz AMD |
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| [05:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, I have no doubts it will be retired soon just to run servers :) |
| [05:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am going to be upgrading to dual opterons |
| [05:20:00] | mchou: | what the hell for? |
| [05:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | fun |
| [05:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | they are cheap |
| [05:20:00] | mchou: | just upgrade that to dual core |
| [05:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nah |
| [05:21:00] | mchou: | that's probably cheaper. |
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| [05:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | umm... not really |
| [05:21:00] | twisted_one: | dual core is most likely cheaper |
| [05:21:00] | twisted_one: | get like a 3800 |
| [05:21:00] | twisted_one: | and OC it |
| [05:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | let me get the prices |
| [05:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont overclock |
| [05:21:00] | mchou: | I had a chance to snap a dual opteron + mb combo for $500 but missed it |
| [05:21:00] | twisted_one: | its not like you ahve to try |
| [05:22:00] | twisted_one: | just set up it up as if it were a 4400 or something, there is no work involved |
| [05:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | my computer is dogslow right now |
| [05:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | sorry its transcoding |
| [05:22:00] | mchou: | it's hard to oc dual cores :( |
| [05:22:00] | twisted_one: | not the 3800's |
| [05:22:00] | mchou: | bah. |
| [05:22:00] | twisted_one: | from what I have read they easily acieve the medium levels |
| [05:22:00] | mchou: | what's the point? |
| [05:23:00] | twisted_one: | meh, cheaper than paying for the 4400 |
| [05:23:00] | mchou: | less reliable too. |
| [05:23:00] | twisted_one: | nah |
| [05:23:00] | twisted_one: | basically from what I have read the 3800s have no problems at all |
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| [05:23:00] | twisted_one: | in fact most of the 4400s are fine |
| [05:23:00] | twisted_one: | so they just bin them that way |
| [05:23:00] | twisted_one: | almost all of the 3800's will run as a 4400 just as well |
| [05:24:00] | twisted_one: | basically the 4400 is the lowest quality bin, and then they just mark some as 3800 |
| [05:24:00] | mchou: | maybe, but I have my douts. |
| [05:24:00] | twisted_one: | meh, I trust AMD |
| [05:24:00] | mchou: | doubts* |
| [05:24:00] | twisted_one: | but yes, its real hard to OC the hgih end DC's |
| [05:24:00] | twisted_one: | the 4800's dont OC very well |
| [05:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103551 2 of those would just be out of control though :) |
| [05:25:00] | twisted_one: | meh |
| [05:25:00] | twisted_one: | 2MB cache is damn nice |
| [05:25:00] | twisted_one: | but 1ghz... |
| [05:26:00] | twisted_one: | thats more for server apps then home use |
| [05:26:00] | twisted_one: | for DB work and the like though, thats a damn nice chip |
| [05:28:00] | twisted_one: | oh well, bedtime |
| [05:28:00] | twisted_one: | g'nite |
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| [05:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I just dont like overclock at all |
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| [07:16:00] | vegbox: | i am having problems loading tveeprom |
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| [08:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | anybody know what the $ with the circle/ through it means? like no smoking + Dollarsign or how can I find a index of these icons? |
| [08:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | HELP!!!! :P |
| [08:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah like its really that important..... |
| [08:25:00] | Qwell: | No money allowed? |
| [08:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hell if I know |
| [08:27:00] | travolta: | no commercials |
| [08:27:00] | travolta: | press f1 |
| [08:27:00] | travolta: | shows legend |
| [08:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont have f1 on that box |
| [08:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no keyboard |
| [08:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | tombstone? |
| [08:28:00] | travolta: | no $ sign means commercials are flagged |
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| [08:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh |
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| [08:54:00] | KaZeR: | when a show is aired both the morning and the evening, is it possible to record only the evening one? |
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| [08:55:00] | k-man: | hello |
| [08:55:00] | KaZeR: | hi km |
| [08:55:00] | KaZeR: | hi k-man |
| [08:55:00] | KaZeR: | stupid fingers |
| [08:55:00] | k-man: | how can one find compatability of a dvb-t card? |
| [08:55:00] | k-man: | ie, will the twinhan dtv mini ter card work? |
| [08:55:00] | k-man: | hi KaZeR |
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| [09:06:00] | ebbemonke: | hello |
| [09:07:00] | ebbemonke: | does mythtv can use softcam.key |
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| [09:59:00] | pucky: | anyone know why I get a black screen when trying to watch tv with my pvr 150 card? |
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| [10:00:00] | pucky: | could it be trying to use the svideo instead of the tuner |
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| [10:55:00] | Xayd: | anyone awake? and happen to be familiar with xbmc as a client.. |
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| [10:59:00] | travolta: | client to mythtv ? |
| [10:59:00] | Xayd: | yah using xbmc-mythtv |
| [11:00:00] | Xayd: | it seems i can't get the two to play nice together |
| [11:00:00] | travolta: | got a link? |
| [11:00:00] | Xayd: | http://sourceforge.net/projects/xbmcmythtv/ |
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| [11:59:00] | KaZeR: | Xayd, i'm using it. |
| [11:59:00] | KaZeR: | but it's far from perfect imo. |
| [12:00:00] | KaZeR: | i mainly run xebian mythtv instead. longer to boot, but more stable/useable. |
| [12:00:00] | KaZeR: | and here's something new: nuvexport complains about a pvr recorded stream : Unrecognized mpeg stream type. Please execute the following and see if you |
| [12:00:00] | KaZeR: | notice errors (make sure that you don't have the "really quiet" option set |
| [12:00:00] | KaZeR: | in your mplayer config). If not, email the output to the nuvexport author. |
| [12:01:00] | KaZeR: | woops didn't saw it was that long, sorry |
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| [13:27:00] | Xayd: | sorry Kazer, was already downgrading to 0.18.1 to try it out, i found the problem |
| [13:27:00] | Xayd: | mythcvs is using protocol 17 |
| [13:28:00] | Xayd: | but not the same protocol 17 from the 0.17 releases, xbmc-mythtv chokes on it cause the protocol query response is different somehow |
| [13:29:00] | Xayd: | i'm not that worried about most of its functions, mainly i want the ability to simply play back recordings on it, since i play back everything else i have via the xbox |
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| [14:19:00] | Randall64: | Raw: when booting |
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| [14:25:00] | KaZeR: | Randall64, ? |
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| [14:29:00] | Randall64: | wrong channel |
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| [14:47:00] | Randall64: | These Pentium M's in that Asus socket adapter could make for nice mythboxen. |
| [14:48:00] | laga: | yep. |
| [14:48:00] | laga: | expensive ones, though |
| [14:49:00] | Randall64: | Well, Intel always means expensive. |
| [14:49:00] | laga: | my celeron was cheap ;) |
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| [14:54:00] | Randall64: | 1.9GHz P-M for $231 seems to be the sweet spot + $42 adapter |
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| [14:57:00] | laga: | that's a lot of money |
| [14:58:00] | laga: | but 1.9ghz is helluva fast |
| [14:58:00] | laga: | my laptop has 1.4ghz pentium m and kicks ass |
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| [15:20:00] | Randall64: | My wife's 1.[56] have all played ut2004 nicely. |
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| [15:25:00] | Randall64: | ooh, new minis and iBooks |
| [15:26:00] | Jimmmy: | ibook *cough* *vomit* |
| [15:28:00] | Randall64: | These specs are nice. I had one for ~1.5 years. |
| [15:29:00] | Jimmmy: | maintenance on ibooks are stupid |
| [15:29:00] | Jimmmy: | parts are so expensive, hard to replace, mac vendors are idiots |
| [15:29:00] | Randall64: | You mean the crappy keyboard? |
| [15:29:00] | Jimmmy: | that for one |
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| [15:29:00] | Randall64: | I thought Apple was working hard to drive all the vendors out of the market. |
| [15:29:00] | Jimmmy: | heh |
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| [15:59:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: you around? |
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| [16:13:00] | EL_Whistey: | I'm quite impressed by the tv playing on mythtv (now I've got it going) |
| [16:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: barely |
| [16:15:00] | sphing: | well my netboot, is kinda working, but now it gets the ip information from the kernel arguments except for rootpath |
| [16:15:00] | sphing: | it gets rootserver but not the path |
| [16:15:00] | sphing: | append init=/linuxrc root=/dev/nfs ip=192.168.1.202:192.168.1.200:192.168.1.1:255.255.255.0:xbox:eth0:off nfsroot=/diskless/192.168.1.202 |
| [16:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't use append info on mine |
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| [16:22:00] | sphing: | ugh... ok |
| [16:22:00] | sphing: | thanks |
| [16:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sorry, but it's been almost two years since I set the sucker up, I don't remember all of the specifics. I would have to refigure it out :) |
| [16:25:00] | EL_Whistey: | Yow. netboot is hard. |
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| [16:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | Actually it's pretty trivial to setup, assuming you understand DHCP/TFTP and NFS |
| [16:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'd just need to sit down for an hour and write out the steps |
| [16:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | which I might do anyway |
| [16:26:00] | sphing: | *yey* |
| [16:27:00] | sphing: | EL_Whistey: yea i'm trying to netboot on my xbox |
| [16:27:00] | Randall64: | Still no digital audio on the mac mini ... kind of rules it out for htpc applications. |
| [16:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | Randall64: Only if you require Digital audio :) |
| [16:28:00] | Randall64: | errr |
| [16:28:00] | Randall64: | Sure, I can build _yesterday_'s htpc ... :) |
| [16:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm willing to bet that most people don't have the equipment to require digital audio, though that number will of course increase over time |
| [16:29:00] | Randall64: | receivers have had DA for years and years |
| [16:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Yeah, and most of the people whose houses I go into don't have receivers |
| [16:30:00] | Randall64: | heh |
| [16:30:00] | Randall64: | You think those people overlap with htpc users? |
| [16:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | and heck, my receiver doesn't have Digital Audio. Mainly because I don't have a need for it at the moment |
| [16:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | Randall64: Hell yeah |
| [16:30:00] | ** Randall64 shrugs ** | |
| [16:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | But, like I said it certainly is important if you want it for your setup :) |
| [16:31:00] | EL_Whistey: | have they plugged the hole whereby you can install linux on an xbox? |
| [16:31:00] | laga: | me receiver doesnt have digital audio beause it's shitty ;). however, it has dolby sourround, but i believe there is no way i can use that with mythtv. |
| [16:31:00] | Randall64: | EL: They've tried, but no. |
| [16:32:00] | EL_Whistey: | Yay. |
| [16:32:00] | EL_Whistey: | MS scum. |
| [16:32:00] | Randall64: | When I was looking at one in December people were saying the latest rev had a different video chipset. |
| [16:33:00] | Randall64: | Which didn't Quite Work for Things (that's all I remember) |
| [16:33:00] | Randall64: | Lesson: do careful research. |
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| [16:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | Interesting. I' |
| [16:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | ,m goofing around with making a theme, and changing some text from centered to right aligned instead of doing what I expected made it left justified, no bold and slightly smaller font |
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| [16:52:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [16:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | Weird |
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| [17:17:00] | BillyBoBob: | well, from yesterday, it *looks* like if you set "WeatherWantAnimated" to "0" in the settings, MythWeather won't try to animate the sat. map, which was my beef with MythWeather... |
| [17:17:00] | Krazylegz: | You didn't like the animated map? |
| [17:18:00] | BillyBoBob: | It looks nice, but I cannot exit out of it (i.e. cursor keys, esc key doesn't work), so it is a PITA |
| [17:18:00] | Krazylegz: | Ah, weird. |
| [17:18:00] | BillyBoBob: | so I have to just wait till it goes to the next page |
| [17:18:00] | BillyBoBob: | actually, I am inclined to remove the automated page-2-page thing, would rather scroll through myself... |
| [17:19:00] | Krazylegz: | Can't you do it either way? |
| [17:19:00] | BillyBoBob: | you can do it manually, but it will still switch after a bit |
| [17:19:00] | Krazylegz: | Right. |
| [17:19:00] | BillyBoBob: | so I tend to end up keeping pressing the arrow key to go back to where I was |
| [17:19:00] | BillyBoBob: | as I contemplate my activities w.r.t. the weather :) |
| [17:20:00] | BillyBoBob: | the code is cleaner then I expected; a nice surprise |
| [17:26:00] | Randall64: | So can I buy something to hook up to the irda header on my motherboard that'll work wwith my learning remote? |
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| [18:34:00] | Randall64: | Has anyone ever actually had to buy an s/pdif bracket for a motherboard? |
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| [18:41:00] | BillyBoBob: | Randall64: Funny you should ask that |
| [18:41:00] | BillyBoBob: | Randall64: I was trying to buy one just yesterday |
| [18:41:00] | BillyBoBob: | Randall64: and the weekedn |
| [18:41:00] | BillyBoBob: | Randall64: they seem to be hard to come buy; looks like some kind of special order is in order |
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| [18:46:00] | Randall64: | Billy: impossible by my estimation. I'm waiting for a call back from DFI in San Jose. |
| [18:51:00] | Beirdo: | dumb f*** incorporated? |
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| [18:59:00] | Randall64: | I'll guess I'll compose NiceMail, followed closely by NastyMail when they don't respond adequately. |
| [18:59:00] | Randall64: | After that will come RMAmail. |
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| [19:03:00] | squirrel_hunt: | hi, i can only start mythbackend as root? |
| [19:09:00] | stoffel: | no |
| [19:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | As long as the user has access to the storage directory and to the capture devices it can be any user |
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| [19:11:00] | BillyBoBob: | Randall64: G/L with it. Let us know... |
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| [19:39:00] | Global-Notice: | Global Notice: We're sorry to inform you that Freenode will nolonger run IRCD, Please join the new network of Vaccus IRC Network at irc.vaccus.com |
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| [19:39:00] | laga: | idiot |
| [19:39:00] | ** xris swats Global-Notice with a trout, for good measure. ** | |
| [19:40:00] | Beirdo sets mode +b *!*@70-35-150-46.ironoh.adelphia.net | |
| [19:40:00] | Beirdo sets mode -o Beirdo | |
| [19:40:00] | Beirdo: | if he comes bak, more will get banned :) |
| [19:40:00] | xris: | Beirdo: can you block a global freenode notice like that? |
| [19:40:00] | Beirdo: | that's not a notice |
| [19:40:00] | laga: | *cough* |
| [19:40:00] | Beirdo: | that's an idiot |
| [19:40:00] | xris: | ahh |
| [19:40:00] | Beirdo: | he set his nick to Global-Notice |
| [19:40:00] | xris: | ahhh |
| [19:41:00] | Beirdo: | granted, the global notices ARE annoying |
| [19:41:00] | Beirdo: | but he can piss off |
| [19:42:00] | ** laga goes on to work on his own myltsptv implementation ** | |
| [19:42:00] | xris: | gotcha. I just figured it had something to do with the new testing server. |
| [19:42:00] | Beirdo: | nah |
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| [19:51:00] | Randall64: | froogle actually turns up stuff when you search for "spdif bracket," some of which could probably be rewired |
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| [19:56:00] | MrSpiffy: | yo! |
| [19:56:00] | laga: | yo. |
| [19:56:00] | ** MrSpiffy figures he can build a mini-tx frontend for about $400+ ** | |
| [19:57:00] | MrSpiffy: | min-tx fanless cases are expensive |
| [19:57:00] | MrSpiffy: | any luck building one for less? |
| [19:57:00] | Randall64: | microATX is cheap |
| [19:57:00] | MrSpiffy: | hmm |
| [19:58:00] | Randall64: | You can probably slide a pundit anywhere. |
| [19:58:00] | Randall64: | My Antec Aria won't slide anywhere though. |
| [19:58:00] | Randall64: | not just anywhere anyway :) |
| [19:58:00] | MrSpiffy: | I started with the m10000 mb – from the minimyth site – it has on board tv-out |
| [19:59:00] | Randall64: | I got this microatx DFI expecting to use the unichrome linux drivers with the on-board K8M800 chipset but that didn't really work out. |
| [19:59:00] | Randall64: | I wonder if they work yet. |
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| [20:14:00] | MrSpiffy: | here's one fanless case dor the price of $315 |
| [20:14:00] | MrSpiffy: | http://www.logicsupply.com/product_info.php/products_id/368 |
| [20:14:00] | MrSpiffy: | ow |
| [20:15:00] | MrSpiffy: | or this one for $180 |
| [20:15:00] | MrSpiffy: | http://www.logicsupply.com/product_info.php/c . . . ducts_id/366 |
| [20:15:00] | MrSpiffy: | less ow |
| [20:21:00] | Randall64: | There's a low-profile Antec case that looks like stereo equipment. |
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| [20:21:00] | Randall64: | The low-profile bit makes pci cards difficult though. |
| [20:22:00] | MrSpiffy: | true-dat |
| [20:23:00] | MrSpiffy: | now – there's an $80 one with fans – but an external PS so the fans are just to cool the box |
| [20:23:00] | MrSpiffy: | http://www.logicsupply.com/product_info.php/c . . . oducts_id/33 |
| [20:23:00] | MrSpiffy: | and this MB has integrated lan sound and tv-out |
| [20:23:00] | MrSpiffy: | http://www.logicsupply.com/product_info.php/c . . . oducts_id/32 |
| [20:24:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx? |
| [20:24:00] | MrSpiffy: | note hte cooling fan |
| [20:24:00] | MrSpiffy: | I'd need the fanless case to remove the fan from the cpu |
| [20:25:00] | laga: | http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/158 <- cool stuff. dvd-burning. |
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| [20:43:00] | BillyBoBob: | u can do true low-profile PCI with a riser card; lots of 1U/2U server boxes do it |
| [20:43:00] | CyberKnet: | wb jon |
| [20:43:00] | CyberKnet: | BillyBoBob: riser cards can be a real PITA |
| [20:44:00] | CyberKnet: | They can cause all sorts of problems, and should never be your first choice. |
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| [20:49:00] | xris: | BillyBoBob: no real need for low profile in a 1u/2u.... most are full-height. |
| [20:49:00] | BillyBoBob: | xris: Uh, 1U is only 1.75" high |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | I think he knows taht |
| [20:50:00] | BillyBoBob: | then I misunderstand |
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| [20:51:00] | BillyBoBob: | what is the "most" referring to? |
| [20:52:00] | xris: | BillyBoBob: you said "with riser" |
| [20:53:00] | xris: | with riser, lowpro isn't necessary, and rarely used (there are a few 2u boxes that have 2x full and 2x lowpro, both on risers) |
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| [20:54:00] | xris: | without a riser, you can't fit ANY card into a 1u.. and for a 2u, you don't use risers for lowpro cards. |
| [20:54:00] | BillyBoBob: | ah, I see. That is what I was actually what I was saying. the "lowpro" part was referring to the case, not the card (as per Randall64 comments up above) |
| [20:54:00] | BillyBoBob: | we are in agreement |
| [20:54:00] | BillyBoBob: | the term got overloaded |
| [20:54:00] | xris: | ah |
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| [21:04:00] | Moulinex: | Help me! Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.1.50' (111).. anyone had this problem? |
| [21:05:00] | kormoc: | a ton of people |
| [21:05:00] | kormoc: | usually about 20 every day |
| [21:06:00] | Moulinex: | Permission should be ok, i have checked my.cnf file.. |
| [21:06:00] | xris: | Moulinex: the full error message (like "why" instead of "that") would be helpful. |
| [21:06:00] | xris: | Moulinex: my.cnf has nothing to do with db permissions |
| [21:07:00] | xris: | GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@localhost IDENTIFIED BY 'mythtv'; |
| [21:07:00] | xris: | where "localhost" is the machine you're trying to connect from |
| [21:07:00] | xris: | then: FLUSH PERMISSIONS; |
| [21:07:00] | Moulinex: | xris: ok |
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| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | flush privileges; |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | I think |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | but whatever |
| [21:10:00] | Moulinex: | xris: ok, i have done that.. should i use word 'localhost' or my ip? |
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| [21:12:00] | Moulinex: | [jyrki@fast ~]$ mysql -umythtv mythconverg -p |
| [21:12:00] | Moulinex: | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| [21:14:00] | Moulinex: | and with mysql -h |
| [21:14:00] | Moulinex: | [jyrki@fast ~]$ mysql -h192.168.1.50 -umythtv mythconverg -p |
| [21:14:00] | Moulinex: | ERROR 2003 (HY000): Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.1.50' (111) |
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| [21:16:00] | xris: | Moulinex: sounds is 192.168.1.50the IP of your mythbox? |
| [21:16:00] | Moulinex: | I can connect to database only with "mysql -u root mythconverg" |
| [21:16:00] | xris: | Moulinex: that connects to mysql running on localhost. |
| [21:16:00] | xris: | -h192.168.1.50 says to connect to mysql running on 192.168.1.50 |
| [21:17:00] | Moulinex: | xris: backend and frontend is in the same machine and also mysqld |
| [21:19:00] | MrSpiffy: | I went with the fan case |
| [21:19:00] | Moulinex: | xris: but finally i will use xbox as my frontend |
| [21:19:00] | MrSpiffy: | 80 bucks |
| [21:19:00] | MrSpiffy: | if it doesn;t work out then I fork over more cash for a fanless solution |
| [21:20:00] | xris: | Moulinex: you're still not answering my question. |
| [21:20:00] | xris: | is 192.168.1.50 your mythbox, or is it localhost? |
| [21:21:00] | MrSpiffy: | may I offer help? |
| [21:21:00] | xris: | (as in, please describe your network situation to me) |
| [21:21:00] | MrSpiffy: | backend and frontend is in the same machine and also mysqld |
| [21:21:00] | MrSpiffy: | Moulinex, you should connect to "localhost" for mysql |
| [21:21:00] | xris: | MrSpiffy: doesn't matter if he's trying to test mysql from another host (which is what I'm trying to figure out) |
| [21:22:00] | MrSpiffy: | ah |
| [21:22:00] | MrSpiffy: | but but but |
| [21:22:00] | MrSpiffy: | er |
| [21:22:00] | xris: | since he gets "connection refused" when passing "-h 192.168.1.50" but "access denied" without it. |
| [21:22:00] | MrSpiffy: | um |
| [21:23:00] | Beirdo: | sounds like he has it bound only to localhost |
| [21:23:00] | xris: | so.. either his mysql db is on 192.168.1.50 but the port is closed via firewall settings, or his mysql db is on localhost, and 192.168.1.50 is the machine he's connecting from, but is confused, and thus put "-h 192.168.1.50" onto the cli and mysql is trying to connect to a completely different machine not running mysql |
| [21:23:00] | Moulinex: | xris: 192.168.1.50 is my computer ip, and all programs are runnig on it |
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| [21:23:00] | Moulinex: | sorry for delay.. |
| [21:23:00] | xris: | Moulinex: GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@192.168.1.50 IDENTIFIED BY 'mythtv'; |
| [21:24:00] | MrSpiffy: | if he's trying to connect to it from a different machine (why I don;t know) he will have to add a user mythtv@192.168.1.50 |
| [21:24:00] | xris: | Moulinex: FLUSH PRIVILEGES |
| [21:24:00] | xris: | if you pass in -h, then it'll report your IP. if you don't, it'll connect to localhost. |
| [21:25:00] | xris: | you probably want just localhost, since it'll connect via unix sockets instead of tcp sockets. |
| [21:25:00] | Beirdo: | netstat -tan | grep 3306 |
| [21:25:00] | xris: | and if you're running fedora, make SURE that you have SELinux disabled. |
| [21:25:00] | Moulinex: | ok, i used localhost instead of ip and it worked with root access.. |
| [21:25:00] | Moulinex: | this worked... "[jyrki@fast ~]$ mysql -hlocalhost -uroot mythconverg" |
| [21:26:00] | xris: | Moulinex: mysql is very picky about domain names vs ip's... |
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| [21:30:00] | Moulinex: | Beirdo: i tryed that but it didnt list anything |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | then mysql isn't listening to TCP |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | remove the "skip-networking" from my.cnf if you want to change that |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | then restart mysql, of course |
| [21:32:00] | Moulinex: | xris: i have mandrake 2005 with kernel 2.6.12.3 and NOVA-T-USB2 |
| [21:33:00] | xris: | Moulinex: if it's working now, fine.. but you may need some firewall help once you try to set up another frontend. |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | xris: it won't work with a second frontend as it is |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | he's not using TCP at all |
| [21:35:00] | xris: | yes |
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| [21:36:00] | Moulinex: | Beirdo; i have allready look that.. there is no 'skip-networking' flag |
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| [21:38:00] | Moulinex: | Beirdo & xris: ok, it will work with 'localhot' and root acces but not with -u mythtv |
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| [21:39:00] | jonK: | with localhot? |
| [21:39:00] | Moulinex: | xris: i did grant all again.. and flush privileges.. but didn't help.. |
| [21:39:00] | kormoc: | localhot? sweet! |
| [21:41:00] | Moulinex: | ok, now it will work also with -umythtv |
| [21:42:00] | Moulinex: | i just needed to do this: GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@localhost IDENTIFIED BY 'mythtv'; |
| [21:42:00] | Moulinex: | i was using my ip address... |
| [21:43:00] | Moulinex: | wonder why my mysql is not working over tcp |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | it's likely configured not to, that's a mysql setup question anyways, mysql has good documentation |
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| [21:45:00] | Moulinex: | Beirdo: is it using unix-socket when using localhost as my address? |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | likely |
| [21:46:00] | Moulinex: | Beirdo: ok, thaks! now i can try to continue and see how much problems i get with NOVA-T-USB2... :) |
| [21:46:00] | Moulinex: | xris&Beirdo: many thanks for help! |
| [21:46:00] | Beirdo: | have fun |
| [21:46:00] | Beirdo: | no prob |
| [21:49:00] | Moulinex: | Beirdo: ok, it instantly recocnised my nova card!! great |
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| [21:53:00] | BillyBoBob: | Q: is there a pre-build way to ship video ripped from DVD in the front-end to the back-end? |
| [21:53:00] | BillyBoBob: | err, pre-built |
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| [21:53:00] | jonK: | Moulinex you having a mysql connection issue? |
| [21:53:00] | laga: | BillyBoBob: nfs? |
| [21:54:00] | BillyBoBob: | laga: I expect ripping to a shared drive would be horribly inefficient... |
| [21:55:00] | BillyBoBob: | laga: though it is an idea that didn't occur to me I must say |
| [21:55:00] | laga: | BillyBoBob: is your DVD drive faster than 10mbyte/s? |
| [21:56:00] | BillyBoBob: | laga: it isn't that, it is that protocols like nfs aren't exactly snappy, especially if the software doing the writing wasn't written to minimize activity |
| [21:56:00] | BillyBoBob: | hmm...lotta ambigious 'writing' in there |
| [21:57:00] | laga: | use a cron job that mv's the files |
| [21:57:00] | robin_: | I know that the PVR-150 is an other design than the PVR-250, but when I'm able to buy a 250 and 150 for the exact same price, what is the best choice ? |
| [21:57:00] | BillyBoBob: | laga: that is probably the best bet, but it will still need to be added to library listings, etc... |
| [21:57:00] | laga: | robin_: either the pvr 250 is really cheap or the 150 way too overpized |
| [21:58:00] | laga: | BillyBoBob: someone wrote a tool for the command line to update the video listings. search gossamer |
| [21:58:00] | robin_: | laga: i mean IF they are the same price.. |
| [21:58:00] | BillyBoBob: | laga: cool, thanks |
| [21:58:00] | BillyBoBob: | robin_: PVR-150 should be about US$65 IIRC |
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| [21:59:00] | robin_: | ok I will change my question into what is the best choice, despites the price, the pvr-250 or the pvr-150 :) |
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| [22:01:00] | MrSpiffy: | ok folks – the mini-tx hardware is on the way – I'm downloading the minimyth files |
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| [22:03:00] | sphing: | MrSpiffy: what'd you get? |
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| [22:03:00] | MrSpiffy: | mini-tx M10 board |
| [22:03:00] | MrSpiffy: | case |
| [22:03:00] | MrSpiffy: | 512M ram |
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| [22:03:00] | MrSpiffy: | IR keyboard / mouse combo |
| [22:04:00] | MrSpiffy: | I went with the fan case – the fanless was big bucks |
| [22:04:00] | sphing: | nice... i have an M10 board with a niveus remote |
| [22:04:00] | MrSpiffy: | perhaps a future upgrade |
| [22:04:00] | MrSpiffy: | sphing, did you use the mini myth stuff or build an image for it? |
| [22:05:00] | sphing: | i built one off gentoo |
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| [22:05:00] | MrSpiffy: | diskless? |
| [22:05:00] | sphing: | only thing is i got lazy around i2c |
| [22:05:00] | sphing: | no its an image.. |
| [22:06:00] | MrSpiffy: | I'm going to go diskless – ram boot |
| [22:06:00] | sphing: | i'm playing around with diskless right now with my xbox |
| [22:06:00] | sphing: | MrSpiffy: i didn't do diskless in case I ever wanted to boot the frontend without the backend... ie. at a party I could have it playing mp3s |
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| [22:07:00] | sphing: | how does linux know with shadow is being used |
| [22:07:00] | sphing: | with = when |
| [22:08:00] | sphing: | MrSpiffy: I have a stage 3 already compiled for the C3 if you're interested |
| [22:08:00] | CyberKnet: | sphing as opposed to passwd? |
| [22:08:00] | sphing: | yea |
| [22:10:00] | CyberKnet: | the binaries installed would be different, I guess. |
| [22:10:00] | CyberKnet: | google for shadow-passwd |
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| [22:16:00] | MrSpiffy: | sphing, yes I would be |
| [22:16:00] | MrSpiffy: | sphing, or perhaps FC4 ... |
| [22:16:00] | MrSpiffy: | fedora is my distro of choice |
| [22:17:00] | MrSpiffy: | I haven't figured out how to get an install together for a diskless mini-tx M10 system though |
| [22:18:00] | sphing: | hmm... you want totally diskless... not even a floppy? |
| [22:19:00] | MrSpiffy: | yep |
| [22:20:00] | MrSpiffy: | actually the server runs FC2 |
| [22:20:00] | MrSpiffy: | so that would be a good choice for the kernel and bzimage |
| [22:20:00] | sphing: | does the M10 have PXE on board? |
| [22:20:00] | MrSpiffy: | but I think I need to start with PXE |
| [22:20:00] | MrSpiffy: | it has a lan boot option and this article uses PXE |
| [22:21:00] | MrSpiffy: | http://linpvr.org/rel-0.5.1/README-0.5.1.html |
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| [22:25:00] | MrSpiffy: | here's a link to the MB |
| [22:25:00] | MrSpiffy: | http://www.viaembedded.com/product/epia_m_spe . . . erboardId=81 |
| [22:28:00] | sphing: | shouldn't be hard at all |
| [22:28:00] | sphing: | i read a bunch of step by step tuts on how to do it |
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| [22:33:00] | cassiopea: | I'm having some trouble running mythtv-setup, whenever I try to set up my video sources, I get this error in the console: "sh: tv_grab_uk_rt: command not found" – I can't find this file anywhere on my sytem |
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| [22:33:00] | cassiopea: | *system |
| [22:34:00] | LasseL: | cassiopea, did you install xmltv ? |
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| [22:35:00] | cassiopea: | LasseL, no, I haven't. Funny, coz I thought gentoo portage would've installed it as one of the dependencies for mythtv |
| [22:36:00] | cassiopea: | Anyway, I'm installing it now, but it's got a coupla hundred dependencies to resolve first |
| [22:36:00] | LasseL: | well, that's what I thought on ubuntu yesterday :) |
| [22:36:00] | LasseL: | I think that xmltv may be optional |
| [22:37:00] | sphing: | ok wtf... if i have sash as my /sbin/init the system boots, but if i have a sash script it doesn't |
| [22:38:00] | sphing: | anyone know why? |
| [22:38:00] | FITH: | silly question, the script is chmod'ed executable, and on a filesystem that isn't mounted noexec? |
| [22:39:00] | sphing: | the fs is certainly not noexec |
| [22:39:00] | cassiopea: | LasseL, I was not particularly impressed with ubuntu. They sent me 20 odd CD's through the mail, but none of them worked |
| [22:39:00] | sphing: | cause it runs it if its sash.. but i'm not sure about the perms.. someone told me perms didn't matter in init, so i didn't even consider it |
| [22:40:00] | sphing: | lets see |
| [22:40:00] | cassiopea: | LasseL, I'm gonna kill someone if emerging xmltv still doesn't work – I'm on a dial-up connection, so downloading all the necessary files will be a schlepp |
| [22:41:00] | sphing: | FITH: sure enough you were right |
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| [23:01:00] | sphing: | does sh need a library |
| [23:01:00] | sphing: | my simple /linuxrc isn't working with #!/bin/sh at the top but works with #!/bin/sash |
| [23:02:00] | Beirdo: | ldd /bin/sh |
| [23:02:00] | Beirdo: | learn the tools, dude :) |
| [23:03:00] | sphing: | wow thats helpfil |
| [23:04:00] | sphing: | *helpful |
| [23:04:00] | Beirdo: | what? |
| [23:04:00] | Beirdo: | you want to know if sh needs a library. |
| [23:04:00] | Beirdo: | that's how you find out |
| [23:05:00] | sphing: | no i was being serious |
| [23:05:00] | sphing: | it really is helpful |
| [23:05:00] | sphing: | i didnt know ldd existed |
| [23:05:00] | sphing: | so i just copied those libraries into /lib i could then run sh? |
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| [23:15:00] | Beirdo: | in theory |
| [23:16:00] | sphing: | it worked |
| [23:17:00] | Beirdo: | coool |
| [23:17:00] | Beirdo: | that's a powerful tool, you learned something today :) |
| [23:18:00] | Krazylegz: | ldd /#mythtv-users/beirdo |
| [23:19:00] | Beirdo: | good luck |
| [23:19:00] | Beirdo: | I'm statically linked |
| [23:19:00] | Dibblah: | What? Never visited a library? |
| [23:19:00] | Krazylegz: | Haha. |
| [23:19:00] | Beirdo: | I don't depend on libraries |
| [23:19:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [23:20:00] | Dibblah: | Never, ever try and get a serial port to usefully read a subscription card. It'll rot your brain. |
| [23:21:00] | Dibblah: | (Damn these Twinhan cards!) |
| [23:24:00] | Dibblah: | Only nice thing I can say about them is they're cheap. |
| [23:24:00] | Dibblah: | And even that can be taken both ways. |
| [23:24:00] | Beirdo: | and I'm sure they take it both ways |
| [23:24:00] | Dibblah: | Yup. They have a passthrough port. |
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| [23:25:00] | squirrel_hunt: | hello .. sudo echo "mythfrontend" | sudo tee /home/mythtv/.xsession |
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| [23:25:00] | Dibblah: | Is Daniel trying to set a world record as to the number of commits? |
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| [23:25:00] | Dibblah: | Uhhh... That was random? |
| [23:25:00] | Beirdo: | world record to the number of borked commits |
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| [23:26:00] | Dibblah: | Hey, as long as it gets the signal-monitor patch in, I'm not caring. |
| [23:27:00] | Dibblah: | Begone, dark screen of uncertainty! |
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| [23:41:00] | Randall64: | DFI called back to say they'll send me a s/pdif bracket for $cheap |
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| [23:44:00] | kormoc: | for large values of $cheap? |
| [23:47:00] | Randall64: | Actually, her email says free for a used one, $5 for a new one, $8 shipping. |
| [23:47:00] | Randall64: | So basically I should just buy a soundcard. |
| [23:48:00] | Randall64: | I'm hoping I can rip the bracket apart and save the slot for a fan. |
| [23:48:00] | Randall64: | Maybe she'll send me a new one and a used one. |
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| [23:53:00] | metallikop: | I just set up mythtv on Ubuntu, and I'm having a problem getting video to display, just getting a black screen. Clues anyone? |
| [23:53:00] | metallikop: | Couldn't read file: rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/var/cache/mythtv//ringbuf1.nuv |
| [23:53:00] | metallikop: | 2005-07–26 17:56:17.958 LiveTV not successfully started |
| [23:53:00] | metallikop: | if that's any help |
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| [23:53:00] | kormoc: | well, you sure the rest of it is setup right? |
| [23:55:00] | metallikop: | no |
| [23:55:00] | metallikop: | roughly |
| [23:56:00] | metallikop: | if I `cat /dev/video0 > foo.mpg` then open that with mplayer or totem I can see some sort of video |
| [23:56:00] | metallikop: | it looks really crappy, but I get something |
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| [23:57:00] | metallikop: | I'm fairly certian that I have ivtv set up correctly using a Haup. 350 |
| [23:57:00] | laga: | metallikop: look at the backend logs |
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| [23:59:00] | metallikop: | NVR: Error, unknown audio codec |
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