| Wednesday, July 6th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | xris: | quink: google adsense ads on things like the irc channel faq page. |
| [00:00:00] | quink: | too much work. |
| [00:01:00] | Beirdo: | heh, whatever |
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| [00:01:00] | xris: | at this point, I think I want to just get to $100 to get my check and will take them down. |
| [00:02:00] | xris: | people can make micropayments with paypall if they want. |
| [00:02:00] | gr8nash: | micropayments? |
| [00:02:00] | gr8nash: | heh never heard of that |
| [00:03:00] | xris: | gr8nash: well, people ask if they can donate for mythweb/nuvexport... (no one actually does, but they do ask if they can).. I think you can send as little as $.01 through paypal |
| [00:04:00] | quink: | I'll send you 10$ if you incorporate mythstreamtv and let it stream videos and music |
| [00:04:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:04:00] | Beirdo: | that's a wussie bounty |
| [00:04:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [00:04:00] | quink: | i know. |
| [00:05:00] | xris: | quink: I'll take you up on it (it's already on my todo list) |
| [00:06:00] | xris: | problem is that there are other things lower on the list. heh. |
| [00:06:00] | quink: | yeah well, you have a 10hr deadline. |
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| [00:06:00] | quink: | heheh |
| [00:06:00] | quink: | plus i never use paypal |
| [00:07:00] | quink: | i'd not be opposed to putting some cash in an envelop and putting it in the mail thoug |
| [00:07:00] | quink: | h |
| [00:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | mutt -f ml-ivtv |
| [00:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | doh |
| [00:08:00] | rjune: | quink: he might be more willing if you threw in a pizza and some beer |
| [00:09:00] | quink: | isn't that 10$? |
| [00:09:00] | quink: | personal pan pizza and 1 beer. |
| [00:09:00] | quink: | heheh |
| [00:09:00] | rjune: | that's so weak |
| [00:09:00] | quink: | hey i'm a poor college kid. |
| [00:09:00] | xris: | ok. now the nuvexport website has google ads. |
| [00:09:00] | quink: | i'm making 300$ less then i need a month |
| [00:09:00] | rjune: | so you can't afford pizza and beer? I've never met a college kid that poor |
| [00:09:00] | kormoc: | quink, so spending it on myth hardware is prudent? :P |
| [00:10:00] | quink: | nah it was spent a long time ago |
| [00:10:00] | quink: | my box is like 2 years old |
| [00:10:00] | quink: | or more |
| [00:10:00] | quink: | i think i've been in since myth .10 or .11 i forget |
| [00:11:00] | xris: | heh, that's why I set up the ads. figured people'd be more likely to click ads than shell out their own money. |
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| [00:12:00] | quink: | i clicked. |
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| [00:15:00] | xris: | quink: thanks. and for that, someday, you'll get mythstreamtv in the official mythweb. ;) |
| [00:15:00] | _Nero_: | I finally got a traceback.. |
| [00:15:00] | quink: | hahah |
| [00:15:00] | quink: | super awesome. |
| [00:16:00] | _Nero_: | can anyone make anything of this? Opening OSS audio device '/dev/dsp'. Couldn't get registers: No such process. |
| [00:16:00] | xris: | should click on the "therainforestsite.com" link on forevermore.net, too — I don't get money for that one, and it goes to a good cause (should click that daily, anyway) |
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| [00:37:00] | gr8nash: | xris, you plan on incorperating mythstreamtv? |
| [00:37:00] | xris: | gr8nash: someday. |
| [00:37:00] | gr8nash: | is isaac ok with that.. since its vlc? |
| [00:38:00] | xris: | would be an optional flag to enable. and it wouldn't require vlc.. just need support in mythweb to better integrate with it. |
| [00:38:00] | xris: | then people can install vlc and mythstreamtv if they want, but not have to patch mythweb. |
| [00:38:00] | gr8nash: | ahh good idea.. makes sense |
| [00:39:00] | gr8nash: | what about that remote control from the web i saw |
| [00:39:00] | gr8nash: | what ever happened with that? |
| [00:39:00] | xris: | needs some help from the mythstreamtv author, too. I won't add it unless it's more easily configurable than it was when I last looked at it. |
| [00:41:00] | gr8nash: | did that guy with a web gui remote ever submit a patch? |
| [00:41:00] | xris: | no clue |
| [00:41:00] | gr8nash: | did you ever see it? |
| [00:41:00] | xris: | I mark patches when they come into my mailbox, but I don't really look at them until I have time to devote to them. |
| [00:41:00] | gr8nash: | the interface i mean |
| [00:42:00] | gr8nash: | uh ohh computer starting to crash |
| [00:43:00] | xris: | no, don't think I did |
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| [00:43:00] | kormoc: | gr8nash, turn left and break! |
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| [01:01:00] | Beirdo: | OK, time for me to go home |
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| [01:03:00] | riddlebox: | can someone tell me what this means http://nigmatech.gotdns.com/mythweb/program_listing.php |
| [01:04:00] | kormoc: | riddlebox, you need to update your mythweb |
| [01:04:00] | riddlebox: | thats soo wierd because I urpmi'd it the other day and all of this worked find and then I put it on a different box and it doesnt |
| [01:05:00] | kormoc: | your mythbackend is protocal version 17, and mythweb is talking version 15 |
| [01:06:00] | riddlebox: | I even went to the mythtv.org site and pulled down the newest one and did what the readme says |
| [01:06:00] | kormoc: | I donno |
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| [01:07:00] | gr8nash: | well that was fun |
| [01:07:00] | gr8nash: | my computer screamed bloody murder when i put that drive on.. |
| [01:08:00] | gr8nash: | i barely got an S.O.S off before i sunk =) |
| [01:08:00] | kormoc: | hot swap a non how swap drive? :P |
| [01:09:00] | gr8nash: | it was a portable USB enclosure.. so it was hotswap |
| [01:09:00] | gr8nash: | but it crashed one of our severs when i tried to copy files to it.. so i tried on my workstation =) |
| [01:14:00] | gr8nash: | rjune, you around? |
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| [01:18:00] | riddlebox: | koroc:does that mean that the backend is version 18.1? |
| [01:19:00] | kormoc: | riddlebox, iirc my mythbackend and mythweb both talk protocal version 17 and they are both 18.1. So yes, the backend seems to be 18.1 in your case |
| [01:19:00] | riddlebox: | do you think I should just compile it on my own? |
| [01:20:00] | kormoc: | mythweb doesn't get compiled. |
| [01:20:00] | riddlebox: | qmake make make install? |
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| [01:20:00] | kormoc: | mythweb doesn't get that. |
| [01:21:00] | riddlebox: | for mythtv |
| [01:21:00] | akaais: | how can I tell of my mythconrvg db is created properly? |
| [01:21:00] | riddlebox: | then do whatever the readme says for mythweb? |
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| [01:21:00] | kormoc: | riddlebox, just do what the readme says, and are you sure you're installing the new one in the right directory? |
| [01:21:00] | twisted_one_: | kormoc, can you help me for a minute, trying to help a buddy get myth going and we are troubleshooting his machine |
| [01:22:00] | kormoc: | twisted_one, what's up? |
| [01:22:00] | twisted_one_: | I need to know how I can tell if hte db is getting created properly, well created at all for that matter |
| [01:22:00] | riddlebox: | kormoc: for mandrake the one I had going before it was in /var/www/html/ |
| [01:22:00] | twisted_one_: | I dont see anything in /var/lib/mysql which is where I thought it went (at least for my distro) |
| [01:23:00] | kormoc: | twisted_one, mysql -u root -p mythconverg |
| [01:23:00] | kormoc: | twisted_one, then inside of mysql |
| [01:23:00] | kormoc: | twisted_one, show tables; |
| [01:23:00] | kormoc: | and see waht it does |
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| [01:24:00] | kormoc: | riddlebox, what's that page again? it has the path on that page. |
| [01:24:00] | twisted_one_: | ok, thanks |
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| [01:25:00] | riddlebox: | /var/www/html/mythweb/includes/init.php |
| [01:25:00] | kormoc: | are you sure you don't have a /var/www/html/mythweb/mythweb? |
| [01:25:00] | twisted_one_: | kormoc, seems the db is not even being created... =\ |
| [01:25:00] | ** kormoc 's done that before ** | |
| [01:25:00] | kormoc: | twisted_one, icky |
| [01:25:00] | kormoc: | twisted_one, mysql logs say anything? |
| [01:26:00] | riddlebox: | kormoc:nope no extra mythweb in there |
| [01:26:00] | twisted_one_: | kormoc, its a new setup so doubtful |
| [01:27:00] | twisted_one_: | looking at the setup script it is there, but the fs is 0 so Im going to copy over the script from my box |
| [01:28:00] | kormoc: | riddlebox, if you move /var/html/mythweb to /var/html/mythweb.old and refresh the page, does it change? |
| [01:28:00] | kormoc: | twisted_one, icky, yeah |
| [01:28:00] | twisted_one_: | working on it, I'll most likely be back =P |
| [01:29:00] | ** kormoc waves ** | |
| [01:29:00] | riddlebox: | http://nigmatech.gotdns.com/mythweb/ |
| [01:30:00] | kormoc: | kk |
| [01:30:00] | kormoc: | now install following the directions in the readme |
| [01:30:00] | riddlebox: | ok |
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| [01:31:00] | riddlebox: | do I need to do a mythfilldatabase before it will all work? |
| [01:31:00] | kormoc: | you shouldn't need to, no |
| [01:31:00] | kormoc: | but it wouldn't hurt |
| [01:32:00] | riddlebox: | I will try that too |
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| [01:44:00] | twisted_one: | kormoc: well we got it installed but we are back to where he was stuck before |
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| [01:44:00] | twisted_one: | whenever we start myth it locks the system |
| [01:45:00] | twisted_one: | Im thinking it might be his video driver, are there any known issues with recent nvidia drivers (I would imagine I would have seen something if there was) |
| [01:45:00] | twisted_one: | I ran through mythsetup just fine |
| [01:45:00] | twisted_one: | and then I ran mythfrontend and it locked |
| [01:45:00] | kormoc: | twisted_one, don't think so... |
| [01:45:00] | twisted_one: | and now whenever I go to use mythsetup it locks as well |
| [01:45:00] | twisted_one: | I half wonder if its the theme |
| [01:45:00] | kormoc: | odd |
| [01:45:00] | twisted_one: | is there a way to change that outside of the mythgui? |
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| [01:48:00] | kormoc: | I don't think so |
| [01:49:00] | twisted_one: | I think it can be done in mythweb but thats gonna be a bitch to get going seeing as how he would need to build apache as well as mod_php and get everything configured... bah! |
| [01:49:00] | kormoc: | yeah... |
| [01:49:00] | kormoc: | what bout just dropping the db and recreating ti again? |
| [01:49:00] | iggy: | mysql -p mythconverg |
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| [01:49:00] | iggy: | it should be somewhere in the config table |
| [01:49:00] | twisted_one: | well, its a fresh db, created a minute ago... |
| [01:50:00] | twisted_one: | hrmm, wonder if I delete the skin if it will default to another (delete, move same thing) |
| [01:50:00] | twisted_one: | gonna try a different version of the video driver first though |
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| [01:52:00] | twisted_one: | iggy I agree, poking around |
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| [02:01:00] | emilylove: | any mythmusic people here? |
| [02:01:00] | emilylove: | Ive been tryign to get freedb lookups to work |
| [02:02:00] | emilylove: | they don't work unless I load in kscd first |
| [02:02:00] | emilylove: | or if I run myth as root they work too |
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| [02:02:00] | ignatius: | hiya |
| [02:03:00] | emilylove: | any ideas oh people smarter than me? :-) |
| [02:04:00] | ignatius: | I can't even get xawtv to work, let alone mythtv yet |
| [02:04:00] | ignatius: | I've got a msi tv@nywhere plus (phillips 713x) |
| [02:04:00] | emilylove: | heh ouch man |
| [02:04:00] | emilylove: | I have a tv wonder pci..it works after alot of fussing... |
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| [02:06:00] | ignatius: | when I do an xawtv -hwscan, it lists my card |
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| [02:07:00] | ignatius: | but under name it says "UNKNOWN/GENERIC" |
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| [02:26:00] | twisted_one: | GreyFoxx: can you please link me to that ati_remote.c edited file you have. I have my own customised one now and I removed support for the various remotes and a buddy of mine just got a snapstream firefly and that also uses the X10 driver. |
| [02:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | www.phaze.org/mythtv/ati_remote.c |
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| [02:30:00] | ignatius: | no one knows about the msi @nywhere? |
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| [02:30:00] | ** GreyFoxx has never used one, so that's a no from me :) ** | |
| [02:30:00] | ignatius: | :| |
| [02:31:00] | ignatius: | my dmesg says weird things like "tuner type not set" and "unkown symbol: saa7134_ts_apps |
| [02:31:00] | twisted_one: | GreyFoxx: thanks =) |
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| [02:50:00] | simprix: | What happens if i happen to have something scheduled to record and im watching something on tv and the thing i have scheduled hits the time to start ? |
| [02:51:00] | Agrajag-: | depends on your config i think |
| [02:51:00] | Agrajag-: | mine gives me a message warning me it's going to start recording |
| [02:52:00] | simprix: | well will it default to recording |
| [02:52:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah i think so |
| [02:52:00] | simprix: | by default |
| [02:52:00] | simprix: | thanks |
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| [02:53:00] | CanadaBoy: | anyone her eusing xbox mythtv ? |
| [02:55:00] | riddlebox: | in zap2it can you only access it once a day or something to do a mythfilldatabase? |
| [02:55:00] | simprix: | if i am watching tv and i pause it can i stop watching tv and then go continue where i left off |
| [02:57:00] | adante: | simprix: yes |
| [02:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you set a bookmark yeah |
| [02:58:00] | simprix: | how do i set a bookmark |
| [02:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | I just hit enter and it will say something about "position saved" |
| [02:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | enter again will clear it |
| [02:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | once you have it saved, the next time you go in it will jump to that spot |
| [02:59:00] | simprix: | it doesn't do that for me |
| [03:01:00] | simprix: | it looks like that is only for a recording |
| [03:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | nope, I use it all the time |
| [03:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't think I had to enable it anywhere |
| [03:01:00] | simprix: | hmm |
| [03:01:00] | simprix: | give me the steps |
| [03:02:00] | simprix: | say im watching tv right now which i am |
| [03:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | While watching a recording: |
| [03:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | - SPACE or ENTER will set a bookmark at that point. Next time you start the |
| [03:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | recording, you will automatically jump forward to this point and clear the |
| [03:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | bookmark. |
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| [03:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's from the keys.txt file |
| [03:02:00] | simprix: | thats a recording |
| [03:02:00] | simprix: | im watching tv |
| [03:02:00] | simprix: | not a recording |
| [03:02:00] | simprix: | live |
| [03:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | Oh, sorry, You are right, There is no way to do that for |
| [03:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | "live tv" |
| [03:02:00] | simprix: | ok thanks |
| [03:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | when you exit live tv the buffer is cleared |
| [03:03:00] | simprix: | ok |
| [03:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | I never use livetv so I forgot it wasn't possible in there :) |
| [03:03:00] | simprix: | ok |
| [03:03:00] | simprix: | thanks |
| [03:04:00] | simprix: | where is the keys.txt |
| [03:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | Comes with the source, most packages and if not I'm sure it's somewhere in the mythtv.org docs |
| [03:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | I just read the one in the source tree when I need to reference it |
| [03:05:00] | simprix: | found it |
| [03:05:00] | simprix: | thanks alot |
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| [03:09:00] | dougl: | where do I go to set up a datadirect account? |
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| [03:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | The somewhere in the documentation link of the mythtv.org is a URL and info about where to go |
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| [03:11:00] | pete: | hey guys, is anyone using an irblaster with multiple Starchoice 305/315 receivers (other models are compat)? I'm looking for an lirc file with conf for alternate remote codes |
| [03:12:00] | AlHaz: | zap2it's developer site. but rtfm anyway, you need magic data |
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| [03:12:00] | dougl: | tha nks |
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| [03:38:00] | dougl: | I cannot seem to get my mythtvfilldatabase to connect anywhere... I thot I signed up... they e-mailed me a password |
| [03:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | and you entered your username/password/etc into the videosource in mythtv-setup ? |
| [03:39:00] | dougl: | GreyFoxx: yes |
| [03:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | and you picked the lineup from it after it loaded it ?:) |
| [03:40:00] | dougl: | err... no |
| [03:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | and you attached the videosource to an input from your card ? |
| [03:40:00] | dougl: | yes on that |
| [03:40:00] | dougl: | but no to the lineup |
| [03:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | When you enter the username/password in the video source there is a button to grab the lineup info I believe |
| [03:41:00] | dougl: | ok... can I just mythtv-setup and answer no to the first 2 questions? |
| [03:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | should be able to |
| [03:41:00] | dougl: | thanks |
| [03:44:00] | dougl: | GreyFoxx: console keeps saying authorization failed... did I go to the right place to set up account... that is not documented anywhere I have read yet |
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| [03:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | which place are you talking about, on zap2it.com or in myth ? |
| [03:47:00] | dougl: | on zap2it.com |
| [03:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | you create the account under labs.zap2it.com |
| [03:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | which is documented under the mythtv docs :) |
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| [03:48:00] | dougl: | GreyFoxx: thanks |
| [03:49:00] | ** braniff 's MythTV box is finally working — now if only there were some good shows to record !! ** | |
| [03:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [03:50:00] | braniff: | maybe i should get HBO |
| [03:50:00] | hadees: | so you can have one more channel with nothing on it to watch? |
| [03:50:00] | braniff: | hehe |
| [03:51:00] | hadees: | don't get me wrong i love hbo and their shows but they mostly show movies and movies have sucked for a while |
| [03:51:00] | hadees: | most of them anyway |
| [03:51:00] | braniff: | good to know |
| [03:52:00] | braniff: | maybe British TV is good |
| [03:52:00] | hadees: | ssh you can't do that with mythtv |
| [03:52:00] | braniff: | oh ok |
| [03:54:00] | braniff: | i did just get the LOGO channel — i'm looking forward to watching lesbians heh |
| [03:57:00] | dougl: | GreyFoxx: does the docs mention anything about a certificate code :) |
| [03:58:00] | fatmatt: | hadees .. what can't youdo with ssh? |
| [03:59:00] | braniff: | not secure shell |
| [04:00:00] | braniff: | everyone knows secure shell is omnipotent |
| [04:04:00] | AlHaz: | Anybody wanna take a potshot at guessing why i'm getting this? -- |
| [04:04:00] | AlHaz: | 2005-07–05 20:02:11.916 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| [04:04:00] | AlHaz: | 2005-07–05 20:02:11.973 DVB#0 Recorder: Card opened successfully (using PS mode). |
| [04:04:00] | AlHaz: | 2005-07–05 20:02:11.974 DVB#0 ERROR – No PIDS set, please correct your channel setup. |
| [04:04:00] | AlHaz: | 2005-07–05 20:02:12.974 DVB#0 WARNING – No data from card in 1 second. |
| [04:04:00] | AlHaz: | been following the manual, downloaded guide data from datadirect |
| [04:05:00] | AlHaz: | so, *shrug* |
| [04:07:00] | dougl: | where do I find the certificate code for zap2it? |
| [04:07:00] | AlHaz: | in the Fine Manual |
| [04:08:00] | dougl: | in the documentation manual? |
| [04:08:00] | AlHaz: | yes |
| [04:08:00] | dougl: | I have searched the mythbackend config section and have not found it? |
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| [04:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | dougl: Did you actualy read the docs? Cause it's there in bold |
| [04:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | in the suprise suprise "Configuring the Zap2It.com DataDirect service" section |
| [04:11:00] | AlHaz: | search the documentation for zap2it |
| [04:11:00] | AlHaz: | it's there |
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| [04:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.3 |
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| [04:11:00] | dmesg: | hiya |
| [04:12:00] | dmesg: | anyone in here? |
| [04:12:00] | kormoc: | nope |
| [04:12:00] | dmesg: | awesome! |
| [04:12:00] | AlHaz: | just us chickens |
| [04:12:00] | dmesg: | you know anyhting about saa713x? |
| [04:12:00] | kormoc: | sorry :P |
| [04:12:00] | dougl: | hmmm... under compiling mythtv... I wonder why I didn't find it? |
| [04:12:00] | AlHaz: | dmesg: remind me what that is |
| [04:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | the section is called "Configuring the Zap2It.com DataDirect service".. Can't get much more clear than that |
| [04:13:00] | dmesg: | AlHaz: it's a chipset made my philips for capture cards |
| [04:13:00] | dmesg: | my card has it, but the driver isn't loading correctly – I get no audio or video, and can't change the input in either tvtime or xawtv |
| [04:14:00] | AlHaz: | dmesg: analog or dvb? |
| [04:14:00] | dmesg: | analog |
| [04:14:00] | AlHaz: | dmesg: 2.6 kernel? |
| [04:14:00] | dmesg: | yes |
| [04:14:00] | AlHaz: | dmesg: build your own? |
| [04:15:00] | dmesg: | no – precompiled debian 2.6.11-1-k7 |
| [04:15:00] | AlHaz: | hmm |
| [04:15:00] | __Ace__: | how do I make mythtv recognice an .avi file (divx/xvid), when its put in the /video folder? |
| [04:15:00] | AlHaz: | well, I've noticed in my own romps through 2.6 that it's much more possible than in 2.4 to fail to meet the actual dependencies of a given driver |
| [04:15:00] | dmesg: | but 2.4x might do it? |
| [04:15:00] | __Ace__: | I mean, mythtv seems to be using mplayer, so should be able to play it |
| [04:16:00] | AlHaz: | the dvb core has to be monolithic before you can build drivers for nearly all of the dvb front ends, for example |
| [04:16:00] | dmesg: | don't I have to load a bunch of kernel patches? |
| [04:16:00] | AlHaz: | there might be something in there that needs to be built differently |
| [04:16:00] | dmesg: | AlHaz: actually, I'm thinking that the "type" parameter that the saa7134 module is loading under is wrong, but I can't find a list of card types |
| [04:16:00] | AlHaz: | dmesg: what kernel messages do you get when that driver loads and you try to use it? |
| [04:17:00] | dmesg: | however, 2.6 kern autodetects the card and uses that driver |
| [04:17:00] | AlHaz: | oh, there should be a file called CARDLIST |
| [04:17:00] | AlHaz: | somewhere in the kernel source documentation |
| [04:17:00] | AlHaz: | probably under bttv, if that driver is one of the ones maintained by the bttv guy |
| [04:18:00] | dmesg: | in my dmesg I get "tuner 2–004b: tuner type not set" |
| [04:18:00] | AlHaz: | that's certainly a problem |
| [04:18:00] | dmesg: | yeah |
| [04:18:00] | dmesg: | but I'm clueless |
| [04:18:00] | AlHaz: | which card do you have? |
| [04:19:00] | dmesg: | it's an msi tv@nywhere plus (philips saa7133 chipset as listed by lspci) |
| [04:19:00] | steven_h: | hey, stupid question: how come in mythtv-setup, in the cahnnel editor, I can't get to the Scan Channels or Advanced buttons? |
| [04:19:00] | steven_h: | the cursor skips right over them when using arrow keys... any help? |
| [04:19:00] | iggy: | need a newer tuner module |
| [04:19:00] | AlHaz: | iggy: or it isn't detected |
| [04:19:00] | dmesg: | yaeh |
| [04:20:00] | iggy: | I believe that one is detected |
| [04:20:00] | dmesg: | tuner module is loaded, however |
| [04:20:00] | Agrajag-: | steven_h: i think those are just for dvb cards |
| [04:20:00] | iggy: | that card has a silicon tuner? |
| [04:20:00] | AlHaz: | in 2.6.12.2 there isn't an entry in the list for the msi card |
| [04:20:00] | dmesg: | AlHaz: I don't know |
| [04:21:00] | AlHaz: | so you'll have to figure out what tuner it has, and pass the right arguments |
| [04:21:00] | dmesg: | yeah |
| [04:21:00] | dmesg: | that's how it's looking |
| [04:21:00] | dmesg: | or take it back to the store and get an ati ve instead ;) |
| [04:21:00] | AlHaz: | which isn't a big deal |
| [04:21:00] | dmesg: | because i know that shit works heh |
| [04:21:00] | iggy: | dmesg: that card has a silicon tuner? |
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| [04:21:00] | dmesg: | iggy: yes |
| [04:21:00] | steven_h: | Agrajag-: Ok, makes sense. So for an elcheapo terristral thing, I have to add channels by hand, right? |
| [04:22:00] | Agrajag-: | as in analogue? can't remember.. haven't used an analogue card in myth for a while :P |
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| [04:22:00] | Agrajag-: | i think you can choose a frequency list for your location or something though? |
| [04:22:00] | iggy: | dmesg: do you have a tda8290.c in your kernel tree? |
| [04:22:00] | Agrajag-: | can't rememger |
| [04:22:00] | steven_h: | k, will look into it, thanks! |
| [04:23:00] | dmesg: | iggy: it doesn't appear so through "locate". I'm doing a find / | grep now |
| [04:24:00] | steven_h: | Ace: you need to go to tools/utilities, then to video manager and add the video there, afaik (I'm new to this too) |
| [04:24:00] | iggy: | dmesg: what about TUNER_PHILIPS_TDA8290 in tuner.h? |
| [04:24:00] | iggy: | if you don't have those, you need to grab a newer tuner module (video4linux snapshot or new kernel) |
| [04:25:00] | dmesg: | I'm thinking of just getting 2.6.12–2 from kernel.org |
| [04:25:00] | dmesg: | but I know that my debian system is going to scream about that |
| [04:26:00] | AlHaz: | meh |
| [04:26:00] | AlHaz: | I've never used a debian binary kernel for more than long enough to compile my own |
| [04:26:00] | ** dmesg nods ** | |
| [04:26:00] | AlHaz: | it doesn't give me much trouble |
| [04:26:00] | dmesg: | I guess that's what I'm doing tonight then ;) |
| [04:27:00] | dmesg: | first time doing that with deb in over two years tho lol |
| [04:27:00] | dmesg: | so I'm uh... gonna need to google a bit |
| [04:27:00] | dmesg: | heh |
| [04:27:00] | dmesg: | but it should be pretty straightforward |
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| [04:34:00] | banyan: | Hey, anybody know something about avidemux2? I'm having a time trying to get it to save video for me... it keeps saying something about a lonely B frame. |
| [04:37:00] | AlHaz: | use mencoder instead, with -ovc copy and -noaudio |
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| [04:40:00] | gr8nash_home: | dmesg im running 2.6.12rc2 on my debian system.. no worries |
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| [04:43:00] | banyan: | will mencoder do the trick tho? what I want to do is commercial-edit a movie I taped before I burn it to DVD. |
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| [04:57:00] | AlHaz: | what does demuxing have to do with that? |
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| [05:00:00] | steven_h: | a quick question: Is there a way to install mythtv so it doesn't need internet connection? IE: totally disable prgoram guides? |
| [05:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | You could, but I don't see how useful it would be :) |
| [05:01:00] | steven_h: | Well, can you tell me how to do it? I'm setting up a box for a flat with no internet... thanks |
| [05:01:00] | iggy: | then you basically just have full screen xawtv/tvtime |
| [05:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | just don't setup a video source |
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| [05:01:00] | gr8nash_home: | GreyFoxx, does your new mythgame patch change the rom filtering for snes games? |
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| [05:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | gr8nash_home: yes and no |
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| [05:02:00] | kormoc: | well |
| [05:02:00] | gr8nash_home: | well does it still try and guess which roms it wants me to play? |
| [05:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | The same file extensions are used to detect the files, but it's not currently doing any crc checks |
| [05:02:00] | Rhapsody2: | how do i get to the video source and tuner card setting screen on KnoppMyth? |
| [05:03:00] | steven_h: | GreyFoxx: but if I don't define a video source, I can't define any tv channels, right?? |
| [05:03:00] | steven_h: | Rhapsody2: run mythtv-setup from the command line |
| [05:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | gr8nash_home: huh? guess at what roms you want to play? I'm not sure exactly what you mean |
| [05:03:00] | Rhapsody2: | k, thx |
| [05:03:00] | gr8nash_home: | currently mythgame scans for games and leaves out ~60% of my collection |
| [05:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | steven_h: you could make one up, and fill the database manually |
| [05:03:00] | ignatius: | welp |
| [05:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | gr8nash_home: Oh |
| [05:04:00] | ignatius: | looks like this kernel compile is going to take a minute ;) |
| [05:04:00] | gr8nash_home: | so its still does that i take it =( |
| [05:04:00] | Rhapsody2: | steven_h: perfect, that is what i wanted |
| [05:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | well, with the current version (of mine) it will detect them based on file extension, so as long as the extensions are matching it will find them . Also does proper recursive directory searching |
| [05:05:00] | gr8nash_home: | sweet so if its a good extension for snes it will add it! nice! |
| [05:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [05:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | and you can edit the extensions you want to associate with each game player |
| [05:05:00] | steven_h: | well, what I did was I defined a video source, connected it to the Television input, and added in three channels in the channel editor. But MythTV won't then let me change channels – it always is stuck on the first one... |
| [05:05:00] | gr8nash_home: | you fixed mythgame! |
| [05:05:00] | gr8nash_home: | sweet .. !! |
| [05:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've got a couple screenshots of the new screens in www.phaze.org/mythtv/mythgame/ |
| [05:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | you can add/remove emulators/pc games at will. So no code changes are needed to add a new one or to change stuff if the parameters for an emulator changes |
| [05:06:00] | gr8nash_home: | well nice.. didnt know you can code.. |
| [05:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | plus when setting something as a favourite game it's updated immediatly in the favourite list, no more needing to go out and back into mythgame for it to show up |
| [05:07:00] | banyan: | I'm only using avidemux2 to remove commercials and convert to dvd format. |
| [05:07:00] | banyan: | though there may be far better ways to do that. |
| [05:08:00] | gr8nash_home: | very nice GreyFoxx that is a HUGE improvement to mythgame! |
| [05:08:00] | gr8nash_home: | huge |
| [05:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | gr8nash_home: heh, It's been an experience learning more of the myth internals, but I've been coding since I was 9 :) |
| [05:08:00] | steven_h: | could this have anything to do with the "rank" option in the channel editor – can't find any info about it |
| [05:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | so while I'm not the greatest, I can usually figure my way through just about anything :) |
| [05:09:00] | CyberKnet: | *yawn* |
| [05:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | gr8nash_home: I'm looking to see what it will take to setup auto downloading of screen shots when scanning games |
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| [05:11:00] | gr8nash_home: | GreyFoxx, wow.. that would be cool |
| [05:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | steven_h: can't say I've personally tried adding channels manually so I'm not 100% sure exactly what stepped you would need to go through |
| [05:11:00] | gr8nash_home: | i never use the screenshots cause its too much work |
| [05:11:00] | gr8nash_home: | =) |
| [05:11:00] | gr8nash_home: | the game DB (cant remember the exact name) doesnt have a primary key |
| [05:11:00] | gr8nash_home: | so you cant edit it |
| [05:12:00] | gr8nash_home: | you could add that as well once you have subversion access |
| [05:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sure you can, don't need indexes or keys to edit it :) |
| [05:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I've already got keys/indexes added in my version :) |
| [05:12:00] | gr8nash_home: | sweet |
| [05:12:00] | gr8nash_home: | webmin doesnt seem to want to edit it.. it just wants me to make a primary key |
| [05:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | Crappy :) |
| [05:13:00] | CyberKnet: | Crapp-o |
| [05:13:00] | CyberKnet: | (tm) |
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| [05:17:00] | xris: | man, I wish php could overload functions. |
| [05:17:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [05:17:00] | CyberKnet: | I wish php could require variable declaration. |
| [05:18:00] | CyberKnet: | we all wish php could do something it can't. |
| [05:18:00] | gr8nash_home: | CyberKnet, not me.. i wish i could do php ;) |
| [05:19:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: yeah, that, too |
| [05:19:00] | xris: | gr8nash_home: it took me a day to learn it. |
| [05:19:00] | steven_h: | so, does anyone else here have any idea how to configure mythTV to work without the channel listings? IE: set up channels manually? |
| [05:19:00] | gr8nash_home: | lol.. nice.. not to rub it in or anything |
| [05:20:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: Apparently if we set debug level to E_ALL in php.[ini|conf] then it will show variable use prior to assignment... which isn't quite the same thing, but it approximates it fairly nicely. |
| [05:21:00] | xris: | ah |
| [05:21:00] | gr8nash_home: | xris did you come from a "C" background? |
| [05:21:00] | xris: | well, I'd like it to have certain global variables, along with real local variables. |
| [05:21:00] | xris: | gr8nash_home: perl |
| [05:21:00] | xris: | and pascal before that. |
| [05:22:00] | xris: | but I've been coding for long enough that aside from minor differences, most programming languages all look the same. |
| [05:22:00] | gr8nash_home: | VB and C(blah) dont look anything alike |
| [05:23:00] | gr8nash_home: | the fact that i am faily profecient in visual basic is killing me on cpp |
| [05:23:00] | Rhapsody2: | what video card tv out ports work with linux, not requiring any extra drivers, mainly KnoppMyth? |
| [05:23:00] | CyberKnet: | gr8nash_home: C[++] and Visual Basic look similar enough. |
| [05:23:00] | gr8nash_home: | not to me they dont.. |
| [05:23:00] | gr8nash_home: | NOTHING alike by my eye |
| [05:24:00] | CyberKnet: | gr8nash_home: take C# (c++/java related language) and VB.NET ... essentially the same languages, just they use different keywords and C# has semicolons at the end. |
| [05:24:00] | gr8nash_home: | ok.. not NOTHING..but not ALOT either |
| [05:24:00] | AlHaz: | Rhapsody2: heh, i've never seen knoppmyth but I'm going to posit that it won't work out of the box on tv-out in any configuration |
| [05:24:00] | gr8nash_home: | never tried C# |
| [05:24:00] | gr8nash_home: | i stoped really at VB 6 |
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| [05:24:00] | CyberKnet: | gr8nash_home: it's all syntax rules and keywords. other than that, like xris says, they pretty much all look alike. |
| [05:24:00] | gr8nash_home: | i still use it |
| [05:24:00] | CyberKnet: | gr8nash_home: aah. you got jipped. |
| [05:24:00] | Rhapsody2: | alright, i just got my pvr-150 set up but the remote is not working |
| [05:25:00] | gr8nash_home: | got jipped? |
| [05:25:00] | CyberKnet: | Rhapsody2: buy an infrared keyboard and keep your sanity. |
| [05:25:00] | Rhapsody2: | it was suppose to install it, what should i do? |
| [05:25:00] | CyberKnet: | gr8nash_home: Yes. VB6 is an inferior programming language. |
| [05:25:00] | Rhapsody2: | it was suppose to load in the drivers |
| [05:25:00] | xris: | Rhapsody2: generally, people say that nvidia cards/drivers work best with linux. |
| [05:25:00] | CyberKnet: | Rhapsody2: sorry, I have no idea. I use the 500 which doesn't include the remote. |
| [05:25:00] | gr8nash_home: | lol.. its inferior compared to what.. thats like saying dos is infereior.. |
| [05:25:00] | gr8nash_home: | it was fine for its time |
| [05:25:00] | xris: | gr8nash_home: DOS *is* inferior. it lacks tab-completion. ;) (well, without some serious hacking) |
| [05:26:00] | CyberKnet: | gr8nash_home: inferior for an object oriented language. Look up the meaning of polymorphism. |
| [05:26:00] | Chutt: | my pvr-500's not working :( |
| [05:26:00] | gr8nash_home: | *IS* yes.. *WAS* no.. it was fine |
| [05:26:00] | CyberKnet: | Chutt: oh? |
| [05:26:00] | Chutt: | just get static on either tuner |
| [05:26:00] | CyberKnet: | Chutt: what revision of the driver? |
| [05:26:00] | Chutt: | guess i should try a few other firmware revisions |
| [05:26:00] | CyberKnet: | Chutt: also, what firmware? |
| [05:26:00] | Chutt: | i've tried 0.3.5f and 0.3.6x |
| [05:26:00] | CyberKnet: | try w |
| [05:26:00] | Chutt: | latest firmware from hauppauge's site |
| [05:27:00] | CyberKnet: | Mine worked fine on w |
| [05:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | I think some people had to manually specify the tuner type as well |
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| [05:27:00] | CyberKnet: | Chutt: 1 second, let me see what version of firmware I have. |
| [05:27:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: Hmm... I didn't have to, but I don't mean to infer that I have the exact same card as Chutt. |
| [05:28:00] | Chutt: | it's detecting it as 57 |
| [05:28:00] | Chutt: | only have the ivtv modules here, no kernel ones |
| [05:28:00] | Chutt: | encoder firmware is 0x02050032 |
| [05:29:00] | Chutt: | audio firmware has a md5 of 3a4803384f749d644ee1f1ca9dcb12fa |
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| [05:29:00] | Chutt: | you using any special module load options? |
| [05:29:00] | CyberKnet: | I have tuner type 57 |
| [05:29:00] | CyberKnet: | I don't think so |
| [05:29:00] | CyberKnet: | 0x02040024 |
| [05:30:00] | CyberKnet: | that's my encoder version |
| [05:30:00] | Chutt: | 0.3.6w, you said? |
| [05:31:00] | CyberKnet: | Yes, sir. |
| [05:31:00] | CyberKnet: | 305dba74bbe5905447add8883f3ecb68 ivtv-fw-dec.bin |
| [05:31:00] | CyberKnet: | 6e2012d919fa48811c27e25e54a0a5dc ivtv-fw-enc.bin |
| [05:31:00] | CyberKnet: | [root@natasha modules]# md5sum HcwMakoA.ROM |
| [05:31:00] | CyberKnet: | aa4d1e3dd17667957d8fe5b8d2d19395 HcwMakoA.ROM |
| [05:31:00] | CyberKnet: | those are the md5sums of the firmwares I am using |
| [05:31:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [05:31:00] | Chutt: | all different =) |
| [05:31:00] | CyberKnet: | I can make them available to you. |
| [05:31:00] | Chutt: | that'd be cool |
| [05:31:00] | CyberKnet: | no problem. give me a minute and I'll set it up. |
| [05:32:00] | Chutt: | greyfoxx, you know how to use svn? |
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| [05:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | Chutt: I've been reading through the docs on the svn website, looks pretty straightforward |
| [05:33:00] | Chutt: | what username would you like? |
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| [05:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | greg or greyfoxx are good |
| [05:35:00] | CyberKnet: | I sent an address via privmsg for you to get the firmware and my modprobe configuration. |
| [05:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'll probably convert my local cvs archive over to svn if only so I only have 1 set of commands to remember :) |
| [05:38:00] | Chutt: | still doesn't work |
| [05:38:00] | CyberKnet: | bloody hell |
| [05:38:00] | Chutt: | ah well |
| [05:38:00] | Chutt: | thanks anyway =) |
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| [05:38:00] | CyberKnet: | well... |
| [05:38:00] | Chutt: | [ 9152.069862] tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 23552, rev = D592, serial# = 2995715 |
| [05:39:00] | Rhapsody2: | can i access a KnoppMyth box thru the network? |
| [05:39:00] | CyberKnet: | stupid question, but are you sure that tveeprom, tuner and msp3400 modules are being provided by ivtv? |
| [05:39:00] | Chutt: | i do have a newer rev than what i see pasted around |
| [05:39:00] | Chutt: | absolutely certain |
| [05:39:00] | CyberKnet: | fair enough |
| [05:39:00] | banyan: | what would y'all use to remove commercials from a movie? since I am having no success with avidemux2... |
| [05:39:00] | mchou: | yeah, D592 is relatively new...... |
| [05:39:00] | Chutt: | everything else seems to be 492 |
| [05:40:00] | mchou: | or 292 :) |
| [05:40:00] | CyberKnet: | tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 23552, rev = D492, serial# = 8006242 |
| [05:40:00] | Chutt: | i can't use this tuner card _at all_ |
| [05:40:00] | CyberKnet: | aaaah |
| [05:40:00] | Chutt: | doesn't work in linux |
| [05:40:00] | Chutt: | no windows x64 drivers |
| [05:40:00] | mchou: | Chutt: ivtv output in pastebin, pls? |
| [05:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | banyan: I use avidemux for the rare occasions I'm clipping commercials before converting it to something else |
| [05:40:00] | CyberKnet: | I hadn't seen the D592 before. |
| [05:40:00] | banyan: | there was a howto on the mythtv website that suggested using avidemux2 but I cannot get the thing to save! it complains about lonely b frames and tells me to remove them. |
| [05:41:00] | mchou: | a few ppl have mentioned 592 on this channel...... |
| [05:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | banyan: when you are cutting jump to the nearest keyframe, and then backup 1 frame and try cutting at that point |
| [05:41:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: heh, you like you picture quality? |
| [05:41:00] | banyan: | hm, okee... |
| [05:42:00] | Chutt: | http://pastebin.com/308184 |
| [05:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm pretty sure that's what I do. It's so rare I have to figure it out all over everytime I do it :) |
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| [05:42:00] | mchou: | Chutt: heh, does this card work on i586 kernel? :) |
| [05:42:00] | Chutt: | i dunno |
| [05:42:00] | Chutt: | never run one |
| [05:43:00] | banyan: | so, GreyFoxx, does "Save" save between the a and b markers? |
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| [05:44:00] | banyan: | and do u use avidemux or avidemux2? |
| [05:44:00] | mchou: | Chutt: nothing super suspicious in output....... |
| [05:44:00] | Chutt: | yeah, i don't see anything |
| [05:44:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: I sure do. |
| [05:44:00] | Chutt: | aside from that firmware version warning |
| [05:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | avidemux2, and honestly I'll have to try it to remember for sure. I convert something maybe once every 6 months or more |
| [05:45:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: what did I tell ya? :) |
| [05:45:00] | mchou: | Chutt: that fw I think should be ok...... |
| [05:45:00] | CyberKnet: | Chutt: I also get a firmware version warning. I saw a post by JCW that said the warning was bunk though, and that the firmware version you got from me was the latest recommended. |
| [05:45:00] | banyan: | hmm. same thing. I must be doing something simple-stupid incorrectly. |
| [05:46:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: Yep. I never disputed it either =) |
| [05:46:00] | Chutt: | right |
| [05:46:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: But also at the same time I removed about 3 splits in my signal and raised it by about 10db at the card. =) |
| [05:47:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: bah, the card has a splitter :) |
| [05:47:00] | CyberKnet: | Chutt: well crap. I thought I might have been able to contribute back for a change. out of curiosity, where did you buy it from? |
| [05:48:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: lose at least 4dB right there :) |
| [05:48:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: Yes. I wondered while looking at it if it was an amplified split or not =P" |
| [05:48:00] | Chutt: | amazon, few weeks back |
| [05:48:00] | CyberKnet: | aah. I got mine from buy.com a few weeks back |
| [05:48:00] | Chutt: | white box, but seemed full retail |
| [05:48:00] | banyan: | hmm, nope... need another way to kill the commercials. avidemux2 ain't doing it for me. |
| [05:48:00] | Chutt: | had the internal breakout cable/etc |
| [05:49:00] | CyberKnet: | mine was white box, I assumed MCE. it also had an internal breakout cable. |
| [05:49:00] | mchou: | Chutt: you just gonna have to be patient and try lots of ivtv revs. I had to try a whole bunch. |
| [05:49:00] | Chutt: | yeah |
| [05:49:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: is yours 492, or 592? |
| [05:49:00] | Chutt: | no time for that right now, though |
| [05:49:00] | mchou: | lol, I dont have a 500 :) |
| [05:49:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: Oh. =) |
| [05:49:00] | mchou: | 2 150s :) |
| [05:49:00] | CyberKnet: | aha. |
| [05:50:00] | Chutt: | i can always pull the 350 out of my not setup mini-itx box |
| [05:50:00] | mchou: | Chutt: hehe |
| [05:51:00] | CyberKnet: | heh. |
| [05:52:00] | CyberKnet: | well, sorry the firmware didn't help. hope you get it fixed soon =) |
| [05:52:00] | CyberKnet: | I need to go now. |
| [05:52:00] | mchou: | Chutt: I'd try the card on a i586 kernel (i.e. on an old machine) |
| [05:52:00] | Chutt: | that's too much work |
| [05:52:00] | dopester: | just sold my 350 on ebay.. hehe |
| [05:52:00] | mchou: | dopester: hey!! |
| [05:52:00] | derek88: | has anyone gotten a pvr-150 model 1047 to work? I've been trying for a few hours with no luck... |
| [05:52:00] | Chutt: | dopester, you never sent me a password for trac |
| [05:52:00] | dopester: | hey mchou |
| [05:52:00] | iggy: | dopester: how much for? |
| [05:52:00] | Chutt: | so i haven't been able to assign you bugs |
| [05:52:00] | mchou: | dopester: how's reception man? |
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| [05:53:00] | dopester: | im waiting to hear back from john @ bbti for one last qustion before i submit the driver |
| [05:53:00] | dopester: | he called me up and was semi rude the other day about it... |
| [05:53:00] | mchou: | dopester: huh?? |
| [05:54:00] | mchou: | I thought you working for free :) |
| [05:54:00] | dopester: | chutt: sorry i've been sidetracked.. |
| [05:54:00] | dopester: | yeah exactly |
| [05:54:00] | SexyBoBo: | ok srry i now it is stupid question but how do you get back in to the configuration menu? |
| [05:54:00] | SexyBoBo: | to set up new card |
| [05:54:00] | dopester: | iggy: i already sold it.. i have no idea what it went for was selling too much crap |
| [05:55:00] | iggy: | dopester: I actually want to sell mine, was wondering what others are going for |
| [05:55:00] | mchou: | dopester: you the one holding john up from shipping? :) |
| [05:55:00] | dopester: | mchou: no but i am sure he would like to use me as an excuse |
| [05:55:00] | mchou: | dopester: heh, no doubt :) |
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| [05:57:00] | Chutt: | neato |
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| [05:57:00] | Chutt: | reloaded the modules, and it worked. |
| [05:58:00] | Chutt: | kind of |
| [05:58:00] | mchou: | heh, when in doubt, reboot :) |
| [05:58:00] | Chutt: | made absolutely no changes |
| [05:58:00] | SexyBoBo: | any help |
| [05:58:00] | Chutt: | output is identical |
| [05:58:00] | |rt|: | mchou: that only works with windows |
| [05:58:00] | mchou: | now, it works with ivtv too :) |
| [05:59:00] | mchou: | no* |
| [06:00:00] | banyan: | is there a command-line utility that can be used on an nuv file to extract between specified frames? |
| [06:03:00] | mchou: | Chutt: you using Qfan at all in your new rig? |
| [06:03:00] | Agrajag-: | you should be able to use mythtranscode along with ffmpeg/transcode and their --skip options |
| [06:05:00] | Chutt: | nope |
| [06:05:00] | Chutt: | only thing it'd control would be the cpu fan, anyway, and that's fairly quiet |
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| [06:06:00] | mchou: | Chutt: I tried it and my stock amd fan failed to start on cold boot. |
| [06:06:00] | Chutt: | heh |
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| [06:08:00] | |rt|: | stock fan...ick :) |
| [06:09:00] | |rt|: | speaking of which my myth box really needs to be vaccumed out....we recently did some drywall work here in the house and there's all kinds of dust in there |
| [06:09:00] | mchou: | |rt|: nothing wrong with stock fan on a64. |
| [06:09:00] | mchou: | It's probably better than most aftermarket fans. |
| [06:09:00] | |rt|: | does the stock fan run quiet? |
| [06:09:00] | mchou: | yup. |
| [06:10:00] | Chutt: | my stock amd fan/heatsink's got big heatpipes, copper base, etc |
| [06:10:00] | |rt|: | that's always my concern when putting together a myth box |
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| [06:10:00] | |rt|: | i've never seen a stock a64 heatsink though |
| [06:10:00] | |rt|: | I guess OEM stuff is improving |
| [06:10:00] | mchou: | the heatsink is OK. Aluminum. |
| [06:11:00] | mchou: | dont really more than that on a64 3200+ though. |
| [06:11:00] | mchou: | need^^ |
| [06:11:00] | |rt|: | my myth box is built around a amd 2700+ |
| [06:11:00] | mchou: | axp? |
| [06:11:00] | mchou: | ==>LOUD :) |
| [06:12:00] | |rt|: | I have some huge heatsink on it...but it runs at 25C under load |
| [06:12:00] | |rt|: | yeah the stock stuff is loud |
| [06:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | nice, my backend runs hot. 2500+ and at 40–44 under minimal load |
| [06:13:00] | Chutt: | 35c, maxes out around 40 |
| [06:13:00] | Chutt: | 4400+ |
| [06:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | airflow in the case sucks are though. I really need to pop it into another one, |
| [06:13:00] | Chutt: | =) |
| [06:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | nice :) |
| [06:13:00] | mchou: | a64 is amazingly cool and quiet. |
| [06:13:00] | |rt|: | GreyFoxx: you should see the size of the heatsink though...I've seen smaller cars |
| [06:13:00] | |rt|: | yeah my laptop is a64...i really like it |
| [06:14:00] | |rt|: | wow they are up to 4400+ already |
| [06:14:00] | mchou: | I've been running mprime (99%) CPU usage all day and HSF is cool to the touch. |
| [06:15:00] | Chutt: | hrmph |
| [06:15:00] | mchou: | stress testing out my new rig. |
| [06:15:00] | Chutt: | i think my audio driver was upgraded. getting not good video playback :( |
| [06:15:00] | mchou: | oops! |
| [06:16:00] | mchou: | upgraded by who/what? |
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| [06:16:00] | |rt|: | mchou: the dog did it |
| [06:16:00] | Chutt: | kernel update |
| [06:17:00] | mchou: | damn. I hope it wont affect me then. |
| [06:17:00] | mchou: | what kernel? |
| [06:17:00] | Chutt: | whatever's latest in ubuntu breezy |
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| [06:18:00] | |rt|: | Chutt: uname -a should tell you |
| [06:18:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [06:18:00] | Chutt: | uh, yeah |
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| [06:21:00] | banyan: | Does this look correct? ffmpeg -ss 150 -t 629 -i input.nuv -target dvd firstbit.nuv (where 150 sec is the start of the actual material and 629 sec is the length of the first segment) |
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| [06:22:00] | UncleBill: | hello friends |
| [06:22:00] | UncleBill: | how can I transcode a .vob file (from mythvideo) to mpeg2 from the command line? |
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| [06:23:00] | MonMotha: | wow, good to know I'm not an idiot |
| [06:23:00] | MonMotha: | my old PVR-150 was indeed defective |
| [06:23:00] | defaultro: | good evening guys |
| [06:23:00] | defaultro: | anyone here uses mythvideo? |
| [06:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | replaced it and everything works now ? |
| [06:23:00] | MonMotha: | GreyFoxx: yup, works great |
| [06:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | defaultro: I use it all the time |
| [06:23:00] | MonMotha: | excellent picture quality, too |
| [06:24:00] | MonMotha: | must have a much better digitizer than the crap bttv |
| [06:24:00] | defaultro: | Cool. I would like to know what field I need to modify so that it points to mplayer or xine |
| [06:24:00] | defaultro: | GreyFoxx, I'm creating an iso file now. I want to test it later. :) |
| [06:24:00] | UncleBill: | as opposed to? |
| [06:24:00] | banyan: | I have to say, I recently upgraded from red hat 9 to fc3, and the iec958 optical out playback quality went from really alias-y and bad to cd-quality, so they fixed something there. |
| [06:25:00] | MonMotha: | UncleBill: the easy way is to use nuvexport |
| [06:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | defaultro: Setup, Video Settings, Player Settings is where you specify the app/commandline to be run |
| [06:25:00] | defaultro: | in mythfrontend? |
| [06:25:00] | MonMotha: | UncleBill: however, you can do it by hand using mythtranscode and a couple named pipes into your favorite mpeg encoder |
| [06:25:00] | MonMotha: | oh wait, bleh |
| [06:25:00] | MonMotha: | I can't read apparently |
| [06:25:00] | MonMotha: | vobs? just grab it and pass it through transcode |
| [06:26:00] | defaultro: | can you please paste me your current configuration? |
| [06:26:00] | defaultro: | i mean, the command line |
| [06:26:00] | UncleBill: | what params should I use, MonMotha? |
| [06:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | default : yes in mythfrontend |
| [06:26:00] | defaultro: | o |
| [06:26:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | hold on, I'll grab my info |
| [06:26:00] | MonMotha: | UncleBill: my recommendation would be to find a good frontend. transcode is a beast |
| [06:27:00] | defaultro: | what about the value that you wrote there, can you share it to me please? |
| [06:27:00] | MonMotha: | but I can work out somethign that'll at least work if you like (btw, vob is already MPEG2, just a different container) |
| [06:27:00] | UncleBill: | what front end do you recommend? |
| [06:27:00] | MonMotha: | if you want to just take the vob and turn it into an mpeg2 a/v multiplex, you can use mplex |
| [06:27:00] | UncleBill: | I just want it to be smaller |
| [06:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | defaultro: my commandline is – mplayer -fs -zoom -quiet -framedrop -autosync 20 %s |
| [06:27:00] | MonMotha: | UncleBill: then why not encode to xvid? |
| [06:27:00] | defaultro: | bam ;) thanks GreyFoxx |
| [06:28:00] | UncleBill: | how can I do that after I alredy have the .vob? |
| [06:28:00] | defaultro: | do i need the first minus sign? |
| [06:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | no |
| [06:28:00] | MonMotha: | UncleBill: yeah, the vob is the raw file right off the DVD |
| [06:28:00] | MonMotha: | most anything can understand it as the input |
| [06:28:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:29:00] | MonMotha: | UncleBill: look at dvd::rip, it may let you point it at a vob file |
| [06:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | man, svn looks to be pretty sweet |
| [06:30:00] | UncleBill: | is that a perl package? |
| [06:30:00] | defaultro: | GreyFoxx, could it be this field in settings table? VideoDefaultPlayer |
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| [06:30:00] | defaultro: | GreyFoxx, svn tool or the latest myth you're talking about? |
| [06:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | defaultro: That's the one. though you do not need ot edit the database manually, just use the setup menus |
| [06:30:00] | MonMotha: | UncleBill: well, it's written in perl |
| [06:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | svn the tool. reading the user manual for it right now |
| [06:30:00] | defaultro: | I don't have a keyboard in my mythfrontend |
| [06:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | defaultro: Ahh |
| [06:31:00] | defaultro: | current setting is mplayer -fs -zoom -quiet -vo xv %s |
| [06:31:00] | defaultro: | yours is mplayer -fs -zoom -quiet -framedrop -autosync 20 %s |
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| [06:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [06:31:00] | defaultro: | ok |
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| [06:32:00] | UncleBill: | looks like dvd::rip is a full-featured gui-based ripper. I'm hoping for something command line. is transcode my boy? |
| [06:32:00] | MonMotha: | UncleBill: oh, if you just want command line, then yeah |
| [06:32:00] | MonMotha: | dvd::rip is just a frontend for transcode anyway |
| [06:32:00] | MonMotha: | but be aware, transcode is a beast... |
| [06:32:00] | ** UncleBill is old-school ** | |
| [06:32:00] | MonMotha: | you could also look at mencoder |
| [06:32:00] | defaultro: | GreyFoxx, what vo is yours using then? |
| [06:32:00] | MonMotha: | heh, normally I use command line stuff too, in preference to frontends at least, but transcode really is a beast |
| [06:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | defaultro: It defaults to use xv if it's available |
| [06:33:00] | MonMotha: | you can easily work out multi line transcode setups |
| [06:33:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:33:00] | UncleBill: | yer scaring me. should I even tackle transcode? |
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| [06:34:00] | UncleBill: | so on transcode, what am I actually converting to and from? you say .vob from mythvideo is really mpeg2? |
| [06:35:00] | MonMotha: | UncleBill: a vob file is just a raw rip from a DVD |
| [06:35:00] | MonMotha: | which is what mythvideo does on it's highest quality "perfect" option |
| [06:35:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [06:35:00] | MonMotha: | a VOB is MPEG2 video multiplexed with AC3 audio in a special way |
| [06:36:00] | Chutt: | no_timer_check was breaking my video playback |
| [06:36:00] | Chutt: | but, without no_timer_check, my system clock runs too fast |
| [06:36:00] | Chutt: | hmmmm |
| [06:36:00] | MonMotha: | you can remultiplex the video and reencode the audio into MPEG2 audio, then multiplex into an MPEG2 container with no quality loss on the video, but the file will be just abotu as big |
| [06:36:00] | UncleBill: | what does mythvideo do on the other excellent and good settings? |
| [06:36:00] | MonMotha: | if you want to save space, I'd recommend reencoding the video to xvid (whcih is mpeg4) and the audio to vorbis or MP3 and using an AVI container |
| [06:37:00] | defaultro: | GreyFoxx, where do you put your .iso files and where do you tell Myth? |
| [06:37:00] | UncleBill: | ok |
| [06:37:00] | MonMotha: | UncleBill: pretty much what I just described, but without asking you 1000 questions |
| [06:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | defaultro: I don't have any .iso files, so I don't put them anywhere :)\ |
| [06:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | all I playback in myth video are various .mpg/.avi files |
| [06:38:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:39:00] | ** GreyFoxx looks at the clock and thinks it' bedtime ** | |
| [06:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | night |
| [06:39:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [06:39:00] | defaultro: | thanks |
| [06:42:00] | laga: | re |
| [06:42:00] | defaultro: | hi laga |
| [06:43:00] | laga: | hi defaultro |
| [06:43:00] | laga: | bedtime for greyfoxx, and i have to go to school soon. it's very sad. :/ |
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| [06:46:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [06:46:00] | defaultro: | laga, have you tried playing .iso files in mythvideo? |
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| [06:47:00] | laga: | defaultro: that should be some kind of video CD. mplayer should be able to play them. |
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| [06:51:00] | UncleBill: | hey MonMotha, you may not believe this, but transcode is a beast. |
| [06:51:00] | MonMotha: | UncleBill: heh |
| [06:51:00] | MonMotha: | my suggestion is to have the manpage up in one terminal while you type out the line ina nother |
| [06:52:00] | UncleBill: | hell, I got the man page up in one window and a couple google pages in others. I'm swamped and not getting far. |
| [06:53:00] | MonMotha: | it's a beast |
| [06:53:00] | MonMotha: | mencoder is a bit easier to figure out, but not quite as configurable |
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| [07:30:00] | banyan: | ffmpeg is not too bad |
| [07:32:00] | MonMotha: | true, I guess I usually think of using that for real-time applications |
| [07:32:00] | MonMotha: | though it can be used for other stuff |
| [07:32:00] | MonMotha: | and dammit, I'm out of PCI slots |
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| [07:43:00] | UncleBill: | ugh |
| [07:44:00] | UncleBill: | I'm flailing, boys. can someone give me some suggestion params for mencoder or transcode. I need to compress some .vob files from mythvideo. |
| [07:45:00] | MonMotha: | UncleBill: what do you want to compress to? xvid/mp3? |
| [07:45:00] | MonMotha: | single pass VBR? |
| [07:45:00] | UncleBill: | xvid/mp3 sounds good |
| [07:46:00] | MonMotha: | ok, how about CBR since it's easy |
| [07:46:00] | UncleBill: | perfect |
| [07:47:00] | MonMotha: | let me work something out |
| [07:47:00] | UncleBill: | you're the man |
| [07:48:00] | stang: | Hey guys, wondering if someone can point me in the right direction. I'm getting a "Could not find suitable XVideo surface." and then another one saying it's falling back to X shared memory. I think this is my cause of horrible frame rates. Any tips? |
| [07:50:00] | stang: | Oh yeah, running 0.18.2 myth, ivtv 0.3.3, with a pvr-500mce |
| [07:51:00] | MonMotha: | dammit, my libavcodec is broken right now |
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| [07:55:00] | MonMotha: | UncleBill: something like transcode -i file.vob -o file.avi -y xvid4,lame -Q 5,5 -b 128 -w 2000 |
| [07:58:00] | UncleBill: | argh, I get a seg fault |
| [07:58:00] | UncleBill: | story o' my life |
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| [08:03:00] | MonMotha: | UncleBill: is there an error before the segfault? |
| [08:03:00] | MonMotha: | if not, try stracing it or hooking gdb up to it |
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| [08:11:00] | therealgalen: | hey can anybody talk minimum cpu requirements for mythtv hdtv playback? |
| [08:13:00] | Atamido: | What level of HDTV? |
| [08:13:00] | Atamido: | 480p? |
| [08:13:00] | therealgalen: | No, like 720p/1080i |
| [08:14:00] | Atamido: | 720p? 1080i? 1080p? |
| [08:14:00] | MonMotha: | therealgalen: XvMC or no? |
| [08:14:00] | therealgalen: | I would assume XvMC |
| [08:14:00] | MonMotha: | since when was 480p even considered HD? :) |
| [08:14:00] | ** Atamido wishes that broadcasters and such didn't pretend that 1080p didn't exist. ** | |
| [08:14:00] | MonMotha: | ok, then not too bad. My 2400+ AthlonXP can do 1080i w/ XvMC using about 35% CPU usage |
| [08:14:00] | MonMotha: | Atamido: 8VSB doesn't have the bandwidth required for 1080o |
| [08:14:00] | MonMotha: | er 1080p |
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| [08:15:00] | Atamido: | MonMotha: Anything above standard broadcast is HDTV. |
| [08:15:00] | MonMotha: | but yes, 1080p would be nice |
| [08:15:00] | MonMotha: | Atamido: 480p is essentially standard broadcast, it's just not interlaced. Most people call it "EDTV" (at least the marketroids) |
| [08:15:00] | therealgalen: | Here's what I'm trying to do. I'm currently in need of a RAID 5 box – I'm so sick of all my drives dying and taking my data with them – so I have found a handful of motherboards with hardware raid 5 support (and linux drivers) |
| [08:15:00] | UncleBill: | MonMotha, I paosted the output on pastebin.com |
| [08:16:00] | therealgalen: | I'm debating as to which CPU I need to get, because I would like to be able to do a little HDTV watching before I have to upgrade the CPU. |
| [08:16:00] | Atamido: | Right, 480p is one step above broadcast. |
| [08:16:00] | ** Atamido states this as progressive being better than interlaced. ** | |
| [08:17:00] | therealgalen: | How does de-interlacing work out with XvMC? |
| [08:17:00] | MonMotha: | yeah, in the end, it doesn't look all that much better (though it'll be sent digitally, so there won't be any analog noise). On high motion scenes, you won't have interface artifacts, whcih is nice |
| [08:17:00] | MonMotha: | oh yeah, I certainly like progressive better than interlace |
| [08:17:00] | MonMotha: | supposedly XvMC deinterlaces, but it doesnt' for me |
| [08:17:00] | MonMotha: | so I run my interlaced stuff through kerneldeint |
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| [08:17:00] | Atamido: | Althought the HDTV standard includes several refresh rates including 480p @24fps. |
| [08:18:00] | Atamido: | Which is lower fps than broadcast. |
| [08:18:00] | therealgalen: | monmotha – what sort of cpu hit does that have? |
| [08:18:00] | Atamido: | Although, since film is just 24fps, it should be peachy. |
| [08:18:00] | MonMotha: | yeah, they did that so that they could do film without the pulldown |
| [08:18:00] | MonMotha: | yup |
| [08:18:00] | ** Atamido wanders off to bed now. ** | |
| [08:18:00] | MonMotha: | therealgalen: 2400+ AthlonXP |
| [08:18:00] | ** Atamido hates silly pulldown.. ** | |
| [08:19:00] | therealgalen: | I'm currently looking at a socket 754 mobo + ? cpu. The semperons start ~$55, and I could later on stick an AMD64 3400 or something in there for cheap. |
| [08:19:00] | MonMotha: | I can do 720p entirely in software (since I can disable the deint filter and use libmpeg2), which I usually do since XvMC is buggy |
| [08:20:00] | therealgalen: | (I am not an expert with x86 hardware.) |
| [08:20:00] | MonMotha: | that's because x86 sucks ;) |
| [08:20:00] | MonMotha: | I'm not familiar with the latest offerings of AMD and Intel, though |
| [08:21:00] | therealgalen: | oh xvmc is buggy? |
| [08:21:00] | therealgalen: | define "buggy" |
| [08:21:00] | MonMotha: | it seems to have some problems, for me |
| [08:22:00] | MonMotha: | your OSD will be grayscale, but that's OK. I have some other OSD problems though. When the OSD is on screen, the video stutters and such. It can also crash things if you change the OSD too fast (like holding down the volume change button) |
| [08:22:00] | MonMotha: | XvMC also seems less tolerant of bad data (since I'm doing OTA hi-def, that happens) than libmpeg2 |
| [08:22:00] | therealgalen: | What happens when it gets bad data? |
| [08:23:00] | MonMotha: | most of the time Myth dies or locks up in such a way that you have to kill it |
| [08:23:00] | therealgalen: | Hmmm, and how often do you get bad data? |
| [08:24:00] | MonMotha: | therealgalen: often enough that it's an issue |
| [08:24:00] | MonMotha: | remember, this is over the air programming |
| [08:24:00] | MonMotha: | if someone walks in front of the antenna, it can blip |
| [08:24:00] | therealgalen: | lol |
| [08:25:00] | therealgalen: | is there any way you can do partial xvmc stuff? |
| [08:25:00] | therealgalen: | (to reduce the bugginess) |
| [08:26:00] | therealgalen: | So I guess that would put one between a rock a hard spot... |
| [08:26:00] | therealgalen: | What is your signal strength where XvMC causes issues? |
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| [08:27:00] | MonMotha: | I have excellent signal. The problem is when something happens (wind, someone walks in front of the antenna, etc) |
| [08:27:00] | poonj: | hey guys, anyone here setup .htaccess for their mythweb directory? |
| [08:27:00] | poonj: | it says that I should have the authuserfile in /var/www/htpasswd, which I created |
| [08:27:00] | poonj: | using htpasswd -c htpasswd poonj |
| [08:28:00] | MonMotha: | status 1f | signal da5d | snr f9c9 | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | FE_HAS_LOCK |
| [08:28:00] | poonj: | however, when I reload the directory, it doesn't ask for a password |
| [08:28:00] | therealgalen: | and you used htpasswd to create the file? |
| [08:28:00] | MonMotha: | that's my signal info, so it's a VERY good signal |
| [08:28:00] | MonMotha: | in fact, I'm so close to the broadcast site that at night I can get some nasty multipath |
| [08:28:00] | MonMotha: | I almost need an attenuator |
| [08:29:00] | poonj: | therealgalen, yeah |
| [08:30:00] | therealgalen: | poonj: sounds like an issue with apache, perhaps you should check #apache ? i could help further, but not right now :) |
| [08:30:00] | therealgalen: | monmotha: wow, so it's just really picky with bad data. XvMC is so close, yet so far.... |
| [08:31:00] | therealgalen: | monmotha: how usable would you say your mythtv system is? |
| [08:31:00] | poonj: | okay |
| [08:33:00] | MonMotha: | therealgalen: standard def is great (I have two tuners: a new PVR-150 that's working great now, and an old BTTV that works fine too) |
| [08:33:00] | MonMotha: | HD isn't bad. I only use XvMC for 1080i though. It would be nice if there was an option to auto switch my playback options for different types of content |
| [08:34:00] | MonMotha: | I also need some sort of filtering on my audio. A low-pass on my BTTV's audio would be great...there's a nasty high-pitch squeal on it |
| [08:39:00] | MonMotha: | though actually, MP3 compression seems to take that out |
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| [09:06:00] | therealgalen: | sorry, i had a serious connection issue |
| [09:06:00] | MonMotha: | heh |
| [09:06:00] | MonMotha: | happens |
| [09:06:00] | therealgalen: | yeah |
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| [09:07:00] | poonj: | hey guys, anyone here have a pchdtv3000 setup? |
| [09:07:00] | therealgalen: | monmotha – what air protocol is your HDTV? |
| [09:07:00] | MonMotha: | therealgalen: ATSC |
| [09:07:00] | MonMotha: | poonj: yes |
| [09:07:00] | poonj: | Hey MonMotha: do you use dvb in the 2.6.12 kernel? |
| [09:07:00] | MonMotha: | yes |
| [09:07:00] | MonMotha: | it works great |
| [09:08:00] | MonMotha: | I even had it patched into a 2.6.10 kernel when it was first written |
| [09:08:00] | poonj: | I'm having some confusion on the setup.. |
| [09:08:00] | didj: | ive read you can stream over 802.11g, but whats the deal with b, standard 11mb/s, "might work" or "bahaha" |
| [09:08:00] | poonj: | I'm also using a PVR-150 in my system, which works great |
| [09:08:00] | poonj: | however, in order to detect channels, I have to use the scan in the mythtv-setup, which generates a list of channels |
| [09:09:00] | MonMotha: | yes |
| [09:09:00] | poonj: | however, those channels are different from the ones that are downloaded for the program guide in mythfilldatabase |
| [09:09:00] | MonMotha: | yes |
| [09:09:00] | poonj: | is there a way around that? |
| [09:09:00] | MonMotha: | edit the database (use phpmyadmin or something, or just do it by hand with the command line mysql clien) |
| [09:09:00] | poonj: | edit the channels you mean? |
| [09:09:00] | MonMotha: | move the mplexid and serviceid fields from the detected channels to the ones imported by mythfilldatabase |
| [09:09:00] | poonj: | oh okay |
| [09:10:00] | poonj: | its not something I can edit in mythtv-setup? |
| [09:10:00] | MonMotha: | you have to do it by hand. the mythtv frontends aren't capable of this righ tnow |
| [09:10:00] | MonMotha: | not that I know of |
| [09:10:00] | poonj: | okay |
| [09:10:00] | MonMotha: | then just delete the channels detected with the scan |
| [09:10:00] | poonj: | got it |
| [09:10:00] | MonMotha: | you can also tell it to use the over the air guide data, but it's usually wrong |
| [09:10:00] | poonj: | I have to delete it through the database right? |
| [09:10:00] | MonMotha: | that's how I did it |
| [09:10:00] | poonj: | okay |
| [09:10:00] | MonMotha: | since you'll be modifying it by hand anyway, you might as well |
| [09:10:00] | poonj: | yeah, I noticed you can't delete channels in mythev-setup |
| [09:11:00] | MonMotha: | try hitting d or m |
| [09:11:00] | poonj: | okay |
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| [09:11:00] | poonj: | do you have a pchdtv/pvr-250 setup as well? |
| [09:11:00] | poonj: | or something comparable of course |
| [09:11:00] | poonj: | or just HD for now? |
| [09:11:00] | MonMotha: | I have a PVR-150, an old BTTV, and my pcHDTV 3000 |
| [09:12:00] | MonMotha: | all 3 work |
| [09:12:00] | poonj: | okay, I was also wondering |
| [09:12:00] | MonMotha: | was a pain in the ass, mostly because my first PVR-150 was defective |
| [09:12:00] | therealgalen: | monmotha or anybody else have any experience with surround sound output? |
| [09:12:00] | poonj: | is there a way to switch between cards to view during live tv? |
| [09:12:00] | poonj: | oh? that sucks.. |
| [09:12:00] | MonMotha: | therealgalen: not right now... |
| [09:12:00] | MonMotha: | poonj: yeah, hit y |
| [09:13:00] | MonMotha: | it would be nice if it would automagically change for uniquely numbered channels |
| [09:13:00] | MonMotha: | I have my OTA HD channels numbered 900+ |
| [09:13:00] | therealgalen: | (not right now = too busy) |
| [09:13:00] | poonj: | okay cool |
| [09:14:00] | MonMotha: | therealgalen: not right now = not set up yet |
| [09:14:00] | MonMotha: | if you use ALSA, it'll try to do it for you |
| [09:14:00] | MonMotha: | however, it'll get mad if you have surround sound programming but ALSA is told you only have stereo output |
| [09:15:00] | therealgalen: | monmotha: ooohhh ok. i'm just trying to get an understanding of how it's supposed to work and verify it'll work with the mobo i'm looking at |
| [09:15:00] | poonj: | MonMotha, so if you make different channels for both cable and hd |
| [09:15:00] | poonj: | it'll automatically switch to different cards? |
| [09:15:00] | MonMotha: | no, it won't |
| [09:15:00] | MonMotha: | it would be nice if it would |
| [09:15:00] | poonj: | so there isn't a way to specify which card to use |
| [09:15:00] | MonMotha: | hit y, it'll cycle through them |
| [09:15:00] | MonMotha: | kinda a silly system, actually |
| [09:15:00] | poonj: | y? |
| [09:16:00] | MonMotha: | hti the 'y' key |
| [09:16:00] | MonMotha: | while watching live tv |
| [09:16:00] | poonj: | what is that supposed to do? |
| [09:16:00] | poonj: | oh okay |
| [09:16:00] | MonMotha: | switches tv tuners |
| [09:16:00] | poonj: | what about during recording? |
| [09:16:00] | poonj: | I guess the channel number |
| [09:16:00] | MonMotha: | it'll pick the highest priority one that can tune that channel |
| [09:16:00] | poonj: | I see |
| [09:16:00] | MonMotha: | I have my HD tuner set to 5, my PVR-150 to 3, and my BTTV to 0 |
| [09:17:00] | MonMotha: | anything available over the air goes to my HD tuner, unless that is already in use, then the PVR-150 gets used for anything off cable, then the BTTV if the PVR-150 is in use and the program is either cable only or the HD is already in use |
| [09:17:00] | poonj: | but if the HD channels are in a different set compared to the cable ones |
| [09:17:00] | poonj: | then it should know when you set to record? |
| [09:18:00] | MonMotha: | no, setting up a recording, it sets up that SHOW to be recorded. The tuner to use is chosen when the recording starts based on what is available |
| [09:18:00] | poonj: | okay |
| [09:18:00] | poonj: | man |
| [09:18:00] | poonj: | I need to get more pvr cards |
| [09:19:00] | poonj: | but cable quality doesn't seem to cut it.. |
| [09:19:00] | poonj: | HD looks so amazing |
| [09:19:00] | poonj: | also, which bitrate did you choose to store your HD feeds at? |
| [09:19:00] | MonMotha: | um, I store them raw |
| [09:19:00] | MonMotha: | whatever it comes in at (usually around 10–15Mbit) |
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| [09:19:00] | poonj: | how do you do that? |
| [09:19:00] | MonMotha: | reencoding HD in real time is well nigh impossible |
| [09:19:00] | MonMotha: | that's the default |
| [09:19:00] | poonj: | doesn't it ask which format to use? |
| [09:20:00] | therealgalen: | poonj: that's why i'm getting setup with mythtv: hdt |
| [09:20:00] | MonMotha: | oh, it ignores that |
| [09:20:00] | therealgalen: | v |
| [09:20:00] | poonj: | oh? |
| [09:20:00] | MonMotha: | the capture codec and bitrate settings for DVB is ignored |
| [09:20:00] | poonj: | I see.. |
| [09:20:00] | MonMotha: | it just writes it to the hard drive however it comes in |
| [09:20:00] | MonMotha: | youc an transcode it later, if you like |
| [09:20:00] | poonj: | yeah |
| [09:20:00] | poonj: | what would you suggest for transcoding |
| [09:20:00] | poonj: | in terms of bit rate and such |
| [09:20:00] | poonj: | for a HDTV feed |
| [09:20:00] | MonMotha: | will you be downresing? |
| [09:21:00] | poonj: | well, I guess |
| [09:21:00] | poonj: | for a movie I'd like to fit it on a DVD |
| [09:21:00] | poonj: | if the movie is 2hrs long, I'd want it to be a perfect 4.7gb |
| [09:21:00] | MonMotha: | use nuvexport for that |
| [09:21:00] | poonj: | okay.. |
| [09:21:00] | poonj: | what about removing commercials |
| [09:21:00] | MonMotha: | you'll have to downres it to 720x480i |
| [09:22:00] | poonj: | would flagging them in myth |
| [09:22:00] | MonMotha: | run commflag and export that to a cutlist, check everything, then tell nuvexport to use the myth cutlist |
| [09:22:00] | poonj: | okay |
| [09:22:00] | MonMotha: | same as with SD |
| [09:22:00] | poonj: | is commflagging accurate? |
| [09:22:00] | poonj: | I've been doing some stuff manually |
| [09:23:00] | poonj: | therealgalen, HD is awesome |
| [09:23:00] | poonj: | therealgalen, its the best thing for mythtv in my opinion |
| [09:23:00] | poonj: | quality is just eye-catching, especially movies that you can record...dvd quality |
| [09:24:00] | MonMotha: | poonj: in theory, better than DVD quality |
| [09:24:00] | MonMotha: | DVDs are broadcast quality, just without the noise |
| [09:24:00] | poonj: | yeah |
| [09:24:00] | MonMotha: | I've had troublw with the commflagginc recetly |
| [09:24:00] | MonMotha: | I need to go play with the options |
| [09:24:00] | poonj: | those are found in the frontend right? |
| [09:25:00] | MonMotha: | it used to work until they made the "uber mega everything commercial detection" stuff that doesn't seem to work well for me |
| [09:25:00] | poonj: | I also wanted to ask you as well...how much HD space do you have? |
| [09:25:00] | MonMotha: | yeah...under playback I think, oddly enough |
| [09:25:00] | MonMotha: | HD space? not enough... :) |
| [09:25:00] | MonMotha: | 130GB righ tnow |
| [09:25:00] | poonj: | 1hr of HD is 9gb right? |
| [09:25:00] | poonj: | or 4.7gb? |
| [09:25:00] | poonj: | something to that nature.. |
| [09:25:00] | MonMotha: | hum, it's under general now |
| [09:26:00] | poonj: | commflag? |
| [09:26:00] | MonMotha: | around here, most broadcasters seem to be doing about 5GB/hr for H |
| [09:26:00] | MonMotha: | HD |
| [09:26:00] | MonMotha: | yeah |
| [09:26:00] | poonj: | yeah... |
| [09:26:00] | poonj: | so I mean...that'll eat up a ton of space.. |
| [09:26:00] | MonMotha: | yeah, it does |
| [09:26:00] | poonj: | I ask becasue I was thinkig of setting up a huge RAID |
| [09:26:00] | MonMotha: | I need to get a big SATA card and some HDDs |
| [09:26:00] | MonMotha: | but that costs money |
| [09:26:00] | poonj: | I was able to get a 3ware card |
| [09:27:00] | poonj: | so the costs will be with the HDs |
| [09:27:00] | MonMotha: | I need to go write this driver so I can make some money |
| [09:27:00] | poonj: | but I don't know if it'll be worth powering 6 HDs for 24hrs/7 days a week |
| [09:27:00] | poonj: | a driver? |
| [09:27:00] | MonMotha: | totally unrelated |
| [09:27:00] | poonj: | oaky |
| [09:27:00] | MonMotha: | need to port some old custom code from 2.4 to 2.6 |
| [09:27:00] | MonMotha: | the APIs changed quite a bit |
| [09:27:00] | poonj: | for what? |
| [09:28:00] | MonMotha: | USB, mostly |
| [09:28:00] | poonj: | cool |
| [09:28:00] | MonMotha: | I need to make it use hotplug for firmware loading too |
| [09:28:00] | poonj: | what kind of dev? |
| [09:28:00] | MonMotha: | little server daughterboard |
| [09:28:00] | poonj: | wow, sounds fun |
| [09:28:00] | MonMotha: | has an LCD screen, some pushbuttons (server runs headless), watchdog, and an I2C interface for stuff |
| [09:29:00] | therealgalen: | monmotha: i'm setting up a raid5, so my machine will be a file server and mythtv box |
| [09:29:00] | therealgalen: | mythtv will come a bit later |
| [09:29:00] | MonMotha: | my backend is pretty much dedicated to MythTV |
| [09:29:00] | MonMotha: | it's one hell of a box |
| [09:29:00] | MonMotha: | I have no free PCI slots |
| [09:30:00] | therealgalen: | I'm gonna start out with the cheapest CPU possible (semperon 2500 or so), then go to say an AMD64 3400 later on |
| [09:30:00] | MonMotha: | heh, this is a dual 1.4GHz AthlonMP |
| [09:30:00] | therealgalen: | I have my target set on this mobo: http://www.hothardware.com/printarticle.cfm?articleid=585 |
| [09:31:00] | therealgalen: | have you tried watching hdtv on the athlon? |
| [09:31:00] | therealgalen: | (with xvmc of course) |
| [09:31:00] | MonMotha: | that's a dedicated backend |
| [09:31:00] | MonMotha: | and MPEG decoding doesn't benefit much from dual procs |
| [09:32:00] | MonMotha: | my desktop (which is a 2400+ AthonXP) handles it fine |
| [09:32:00] | MonMotha: | 720p I can even do with no XvMC |
| [09:32:00] | therealgalen: | yeah, i know duals don't help mpeg2 decoding, i was just curious if with xvmc it could be done |
| [09:32:00] | therealgalen: | (on that low a cpu) |
| [09:33:00] | MonMotha: | oh, it's got like a Rage Pro in it :) |
| [09:33:00] | MonMotha: | it runs a text console :) |
| [09:33:00] | MonMotha: | I dont' even have X set up on it |
| [09:33:00] | therealgalen: | lol |
| [09:33:00] | MonMotha: | it's a dedicated backend |
| [09:33:00] | therealgalen: | you weren't kidding |
| [09:34:00] | MonMotha: | no, I wasn't |
| [09:34:00] | MonMotha: | it's actually rather overpowered |
| [09:34:00] | MonMotha: | I guess I could put a decent video card in it (the AGP slot is free) and use it when I'm in the room |
| [09:35:00] | MonMotha: | the Rage Pro is onboard |
| [09:35:00] | therealgalen: | i'm attempting to consolidate everything, cut power/space/complexity |
| [09:35:00] | MonMotha: | well, during the school year, this thing serves as a backend to about 5 people including myself |
| [09:35:00] | MonMotha: | we go in on a cable box :) |
| [09:36:00] | MonMotha: | (which I'm sure the cable company loves) |
| [09:36:00] | therealgalen: | why should they really care? it's not like you're using up a finite resource, and 1 box versus 0 boxes = cheaper |
| [09:37:00] | therealgalen: | :) |
| [09:37:00] | therealgalen: | i mean = more money for them |
| [09:39:00] | MonMotha: | well, remember, they consider sharing cable to be theft of service |
| [09:39:00] | MonMotha: | which it kinda is |
| [09:39:00] | MonMotha: | however, we all live on the same campus anyway, so I say it's like we're roommates :) |
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| [09:44:00] | ik1: | hi all |
| [09:46:00] | poonj: | MonMotha: does everyone use linux? |
| [09:46:00] | MonMotha: | poonj: yes |
| [09:46:00] | poonj: | MonMotha: or do some users use windows and such? |
| [09:46:00] | poonj: | okay.. |
| [09:46:00] | MonMotha: | we had someone who tried to get it working in windows...and failed miserably |
| [09:47:00] | poonj: | yeah..there is a frontend apparently |
| [09:47:00] | MonMotha: | yes, apparently |
| [09:47:00] | didj: | ive had 0 success with winmyth :\ |
| [09:47:00] | poonj: | heh |
| [09:47:00] | poonj: | well, I guess people are gonna have to export it in some viewable format |
| [09:47:00] | poonj: | and then just playback in WMP |
| [09:48:00] | didj: | if you install the DSmyth filters |
| [09:48:00] | didj: | you can play .nuvs |
| [09:48:00] | poonj: | .nuvs could be huge though right? |
| [09:48:00] | didj: | the aspect ratio is screwed (thinks everything is 4:3), but just override in your player |
| [09:48:00] | poonj: | well, I guess if you're on a home network |
| [09:48:00] | didj: | just transcode to mpeg-4 in myth |
| [09:48:00] | poonj: | transcoding takes a while.. |
| [09:48:00] | poonj: | heh |
| [09:48:00] | poonj: | btw |
| [09:48:00] | poonj: | which is a better cpu for multimedia like this? |
| [09:49:00] | poonj: | the amd or intel chips? |
| [09:49:00] | poonj: | for transcoding...don't you want higher clock speeds? |
| [09:51:00] | didj: | http://www.linuxis.us/linux/media/howto/linux-htpc/cpus.html, just some random's opinion |
| [09:55:00] | UncleBill: | anybody have any exerience with raid? |
| [10:00:00] | MonMotha: | actually, this is something that Pentium 4s are unusually good at |
| [10:01:00] | MonMotha: | I normally don't like P4s, but they're good at manipulating MPEG stuff |
| [10:01:00] | MonMotha: | not particularly branchy, easy to fill their huge pipeline |
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| [10:08:00] | poonj: | thank for your help MonMotha |
| [10:08:00] | poonj: | I appreciate it very much |
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| [10:12:00] | ik1: | anyone ever have an issue w/ the pvr-350 and not being able to tune anything? |
| [10:12:00] | ik1: | most posts in the mailing lists indicate that they have trouble with fine-tuning certain channels. |
| [10:13:00] | ik1: | I just can't get anything at all |
| [10:13:00] | MonMotha: | is it detecting your tuner? |
| [10:13:00] | ik1: | let me doublecheck. |
| [10:13:00] | ik1: | whenever i use ptune.pl and change the channel the tv output blinks for a second, then snow again. |
| [10:14:00] | ik1: | there it is: |
| [10:14:00] | ik1: | tuner: chip found at addr 0xc2 i2c-bus ivtv i2c driver #0 |
| [10:14:00] | ik1: | lsmod shows that the module is installed as well. |
| [10:14:00] | MonMotha: | did you just get this card? |
| [10:15:00] | ik1: | yep |
| [10:15:00] | ik1: | is it a common problem? |
| [10:16:00] | ik1: | it was working a couple of days ago. |
| [10:16:00] | ik1: | then it stopped while I was trying to figure out why I can't see TV output when I start X. |
| [10:16:00] | ik1: | (I've followed most of the howtos to the 't') |
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| [10:16:00] | MonMotha: | ah, then I have no clue |
| [10:17:00] | ik1: | anyhow – that's secondary now. hehe no point if the device can't even tune to certain channels. |
| [10:17:00] | MonMotha: | I just had a PVR-150 that had a defective tuner module. Exchanged it for another and everything just worked |
| [10:17:00] | ik1: | did you experience the same thing? |
| [10:17:00] | ik1: | can't tune anything? |
| [10:17:00] | ik1: | (snow even though the tuner was detected) |
| [10:17:00] | ik1: | I'm changing the channels now, still no cookies. |
| [10:18:00] | ik1: | I've made sure I've got the type set to NTSC |
| [10:18:00] | MonMotha: | basically, yes |
| [10:18:00] | MonMotha: | however, if yours was working, that's probably not the cause |
| [10:18:00] | ik1: | I wonder if the tuner just crapped out on me. |
| [10:19:00] | ik1: | hr,m |
| [10:19:00] | ik1: | frustrating, to say the least. |
| [10:19:00] | ik1: | lol |
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| [11:12:00] | ik1: | I think I found the problem |
| [11:12:00] | ik1: | something is setting my tuner type on my pvr350 to type=2 instead of 47. |
| [11:13:00] | ik1: | I'm looking through my modprobe, but there seems to be no mention of type=2 :S |
| [11:13:00] | ik1: | here's the related line:tuner: type set to 2 (Philips NTSC (FI1236,FM1236 and compatibles)) by insmod option |
| [11:13:00] | ik1: | thing is that I don't declare that anywhere.... |
| [11:13:00] | ik1: | any ideas? |
| [11:16:00] | fatmatt: | ik1: just a sec... |
| [11:16:00] | fatmatt: | what kernel are you using? |
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| [11:16:00] | ik1: | 2.6.10–1.771_FC2 |
| [11:17:00] | ik1: | strnagest thing is that a couplke of days ago earlier my 350 worked fine. |
| [11:17:00] | ik1: | now it's snow no matter what channel I set it to |
| [11:17:00] | ik1: | (the card is a model 990, about 4 days old now.) |
| [11:18:00] | fatmatt: | its been removed from 2.6.12 and you'll get a "this is deprecated" warning in 2.6.10 but try,, |
| [11:18:00] | ik1: | I tried setting the tuner and the type parameters for the ivtv module, but I get the following error: ivtv: Setting Tuner 47 |
| [11:18:00] | ik1: | tuner: type already set to 2, ignoring request for 47 |
| [11:19:00] | ik1: | I'm going to re-do all of the sections in my modprobe pertaining to the ivtv sections. |
| [11:19:00] | fatmatt: | there's an insmod option for tuner, I hashed out the lines.. something like tuner=5 |
| [11:19:00] | fatmatt: | looking for it |
| [11:20:00] | fatmatt: | options bttv card=8 tuner=5 audiomux=0 automute=1 |
| [11:20:00] | fatmatt: | options tuner |
| [11:21:00] | ik1: | I have a bttv line there, but it's quoted out. |
| [11:21:00] | fatmatt: | "options tuner type=xx" |
| [11:21:00] | fatmatt: | is the one I think.. |
| [11:21:00] | fatmatt: | worth a shot anyway |
| [11:21:00] | ik1: | I'm not using a bttv tuner so I've quoted them out... |
| [11:21:00] | ik1: | #options tuner tuner=47 |
| [11:21:00] | ik1: | when I have it on, I get the same 'type already set...' error |
| [11:21:00] | fatmatt: | ahhh, |
| [11:22:00] | ik1: | so strange. |
| [11:22:00] | fatmatt: | I haven't used the ivtv stuff |
| [11:22:00] | ik1: | I must have munged something somewhere. |
| [11:22:00] | ik1: | thanks for the tip though :) |
| [11:22:00] | fatmatt: | can you rmmod and insmod the ivtv modules? |
| [11:22:00] | fatmatt: | btw, while we're talking about it, what is the advantage of ivtv? |
| [11:23:00] | ik1: | ahh – the ivtv drivers pertain to the hauppauge pvr-xxx cards |
| [11:23:00] | ik1: | (along with other cards that have the same chipsets, etc) |
| [11:23:00] | fatmatt: | ahh okay, don't have one of those, |
| [11:23:00] | ik1: | they'll capture directly to MPEG2 |
| [11:24:00] | ik1: | I'd say they're quite nice, but I don't really know cause mine isn't working. |
| [11:24:00] | ik1: | LoL |
| [11:24:00] | ik1: | and to think – I've been messing with mtyh on and of for a few months now and still no cookies. |
| [11:24:00] | ik1: | LoL |
| [11:24:00] | ik1: | makes me feel like a dope. |
| [11:24:00] | fatmatt: | any upgrrade I do will likely be another digital tuner |
| [11:24:00] | ik1: | nice |
| [11:25:00] | fatmatt: | yah, even the cheapo ones without onboard decoding do a good job for me |
| [11:26:00] | fatmatt: | down to my last pci slot in this one though |
| [11:27:00] | ik1: | haha hardcore |
| [11:27:00] | ik1: | I'm using the pvr=350 for TV out... that and the low CPU overhead. |
| [11:27:00] | fatmatt: | bbl |
| [11:27:00] | fatmatt: | dinner |
| [11:28:00] | ik1: | even though the output is huge, it's still attached to a 722GB array. |
| [11:28:00] | ik1: | so – plenty of space for now. |
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| [12:07:00] | mrkookz: | are there any channels that deal with troubleshooting DVB cards under Linux? |
| [12:15:00] | beavis: | #dvb |
| [12:16:00] | mrkookz: | beavis, chz |
| [12:17:00] | beavis: | or #linuxtv for questions regarding dvb only (not mythtv related) |
| [12:17:00] | mrkookz: | will try there too |
| [12:18:00] | mrkookz: | I've tried getting this thing working using tvtime, mythtv, xawtv etc etc etc and none work so I'm guessing it;s a driver thing.. |
| [12:20:00] | beavis: | you need a dvb application for watching tv |
| [12:21:00] | beavis: | I was using tvtime, xawtv and kdetv with my old bttv card |
| [12:21:00] | beavis: | and kaffeine now with dvb-t |
| [12:21:00] | mrkookz: | I only seem to be able to access the composite and svideo inputs on the thing – not the tuner |
| [12:21:00] | mrkookz: | haven't tried kaffeine |
| [12:33:00] | port80: | hrrrm interesting.... |
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| [12:54:00] | ik1: | has anyone seen an issue with the pvr-350 where I cannot tune to any channel at all? |
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| [13:16:00] | port80: | I'm having trouble tuning in Melbourne – Australia |
| [13:16:00] | port80: | I have an avermedia 771 setup etc |
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| [13:17:00] | port80: | the mt352 module is loaded, during the chan scan it looks to be working, it just can't lock |
| [13:18:00] | port80: | are there any particular settings I should be trying, I have been trying to get this card working for months :( |
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| [14:05:00] | Tommck: | I have still been getting zero length recordings with no errors shown until commercial flagging is attempted. Is there somewhere besides the backend console I should be looking for the error? |
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| [14:12:00] | fatmatt: | Tommck: have you looked at mythbackend.log? |
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| [14:14:00] | fatmatt: | Tommck: have you looked at mythbackend.log? |
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| [14:18:00] | Tommck_: | sorry... got disconnected |
| [14:18:00] | Tommck_: | fatmatt – where's mythbackend.log? |
| [14:19:00] | fatmatt: | /var/log/mythtv ... somewhere like that |
| [14:19:00] | fatmatt: | could be a large file.. mines gotten biggish |
| [14:19:00] | Tommck_: | nothing with the word "myth" in it below /var/log |
| [14:20:00] | fatmatt: | try "locate mythbackend.log" |
| [14:20:00] | Tommck_: | I don't have locate |
| [14:21:00] | fatmatt: | I don't know then, sorry, it should be there somewhere |
| [14:21:00] | AlHaz: | is it just me or is it really easy to get an hd3000 card into an unusable state? |
| [14:22:00] | Tommck_: | AlHaz – sounds like it's just you :) |
| [14:22:00] | AlHaz: | Tommck: I have this problem where it'll struggle to tune a particular station and then just give up |
| [14:22:00] | AlHaz: | and then it can't be used at all |
| [14:22:00] | Tommck_: | AlHaz – sounds like you have a bad signal? |
| [14:22:00] | Tommck_: | what's "can't be used" mean? |
| [14:22:00] | AlHaz: | Tommck: won't lock onto anything |
| [14:23:00] | AlHaz: | 2005-07–06 06:21:13.921 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| [14:23:00] | AlHaz: | 2005-07–06 06:21:13.929 DVB#0 Recorder: Card opened successfully (using PS mode). |
| [14:23:00] | AlHaz: | 2005-07–06 06:21:13.938 DVB#0 Data read from DMX – This is for debugging with transform.c |
| [14:23:00] | AlHaz: | 2005-07–06 06:21:28.950 Couldn't read data from the capture card in 15 seconds. Stopping. |
| [14:23:00] | AlHaz: | 2005-07–06 06:21:28.980 Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None |
| [14:23:00] | AlHaz: | 2005-07–06 06:21:28.987 Closing DVB recorder |
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| [14:23:00] | Tommck_: | AlHaz – ahh.. Myth can't... can you tune outside of myth? |
| [14:25:00] | AlHaz: | yeah, I can tune with azap and cat /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0 to mplayer |
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| [14:26:00] | AlHaz: | myth is still stuck |
| [14:26:00] | Tommck_: | so it sounds like it's Myth, not the card :) |
| [14:26:00] | Tommck_: | just kidding.. |
| [14:26:00] | Tommck_: | on the phone... bbl |
| [14:26:00] | AlHaz: | general question: how do i delete a channel in the channel editor? |
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| [14:42:00] | AlHaz: | I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest that mythfrontend shouldn't segfault when mythbackend can't get a good signal |
| [14:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | good assumption :) |
| [14:43:00] | Tommck_: | AlHaz – I'm sure that was a design decision |
| [14:43:00] | AlHaz: | Things are a little worse for my signal in a couple ways |
| [14:44:00] | AlHaz: | 1: We have a for-pay HD system out here called USDTV. Their signal looks just like any other HD signal except it's encrypted. |
| [14:45:00] | AlHaz: | myth doesn't properly detect them as encrypted, since they're probably not using a CA system that looks like regular dVB |
| [14:45:00] | AlHaz: | so i have a bunch of meaningless callsigns in the channel list |
| [14:45:00] | AlHaz: | channels i can't actually watch |
| [14:45:00] | AlHaz: | but myth is more than willing to sit there and try |
| [14:45:00] | AlHaz: | and lock up |
| [14:45:00] | AlHaz: | or crash |
| [14:45:00] | MonMotha: | mythtv is remarkably not hardy when it comes to digital TV |
| [14:46:00] | MonMotha: | it pretty much assumes you've got bog standard analog capture going on |
| [14:46:00] | MonMotha: | throw digital at it and it's like "OHHH! IT LOOKS GREAT! BTW, I'm crashing now!" |
| [14:46:00] | AlHaz: | "lock up" is perhaps the wrong term |
| [14:46:00] | MonMotha: | I know what you mean...it happens to me all the time |
| [14:46:00] | AlHaz: | "Waited too long for decoder to pause" over and over and over and over |
| [14:46:00] | AlHaz: | and i can't break out from it, have to kill it |
| [14:46:00] | MonMotha: | it like sits there and all you can do is let it time out and (hopefully) bump you back to the menu, or send it SIGTERM |
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| [14:47:00] | AlHaz: | I'm also in a 4plex that was built in the 60's |
| [14:47:00] | MonMotha: | then of course, it'll be stuck on that (bad) channel every time you try to use that tuner until you go into mythtv-setup and change the default channel (or just change it in the DB directly, since that's usually easier :) |
| [14:47:00] | AlHaz: | had shitty VHF antenna on the roof, 300ohm wire going to each apartment |
| [14:47:00] | AlHaz: | There's a damn good chance i'm the only one using it |
| [14:48:00] | AlHaz: | I, ahem, installed an enormous Winegard antenna |
| [14:48:00] | AlHaz: | but I might be getting multipath from the rats nest of 300ohm antenna wire |
| [14:48:00] | AlHaz: | or something |
| [14:48:00] | MonMotha: | heh |
| [14:48:00] | MonMotha: | you could put the matching network up in the attic |
| [14:49:00] | MonMotha: | s/in the attic/on the roof |
| [14:49:00] | AlHaz: | well, I sorta did |
| [14:49:00] | AlHaz: | the winegard has 75ohm out |
| [14:50:00] | AlHaz: | I brought it out to a splitter, stuck a matching . . . i hate calling it a transformer when i know it's a bunch of capacitors . . . . anyway, put the dongle on one side, and ran RG6 over to my dtv dish |
| [14:50:00] | MonMotha: | I'm so close to the tower here that I can pick up an acceptable signal for DTV using a couple pieces of random length wire put up as a dipole |
| [14:50:00] | AlHaz: | used a diplexer to hop onto the cable for the digital receiver |
| [14:50:00] | AlHaz: | satellite receiver rather |
| [14:50:00] | MonMotha: | eww....commercial TV diplexers... |
| [14:50:00] | AlHaz: | yeah, I know |
| [14:51:00] | AlHaz: | but the crappy 300ohm doesn't enter this room |
| [14:51:00] | MonMotha: | I just have a UHF loop and a VHF rabbit ear style dipole inside |
| [14:51:00] | MonMotha: | has a preamp that I turn off when I'm at home because otherwise I get horrible multipath, especially at night |
| [14:51:00] | MonMotha: | in fact, I may need to acqurie an attenuator |
| [14:51:00] | AlHaz: | I need to just buy a damn house so that i can do it right |
| [14:52:00] | MonMotha: | I've got a 10 foot (or so) dish I could acquire...if I had a place to put it |
| [14:52:00] | MonMotha: | would hav eto get myself a DVB-S card then though |
| [14:55:00] | AlHaz: | for some reason my atsc signal is pretty bad this morning |
| [14:56:00] | MonMotha: | I'm watching my local FOX station right now. Looks fine |
| [14:56:00] | MonMotha: | at least, looks as good as they normally make it look |
| [14:56:00] | MonMotha: | none of the local broadcasters do a good job with their HD DTV signals |
| [14:57:00] | AlHaz: | mostly just upconverted |
| [14:57:00] | AlHaz: | I'd like to know what compells some of them to broadcast everything in 16x9 and put big gray blocks on the sides of the 4x3 content |
| [14:58:00] | AlHaz: | I have no idea what they're playing at. Can't picture the scenario where a 16x9 tv needs help centering a 4x3 picture. |
| [14:58:00] | MonMotha: | would be nice to know, yes |
| [14:58:00] | MonMotha: | I get plenty of use out of my 16:9 zoom to 4:3 function (since I have a 4:3 TV, aka computer monitor) |
| [14:58:00] | MonMotha: | of course, the loacl CBS affiliate is really dumb |
| [14:58:00] | AlHaz: | where is that function? I haven't found it yet |
| [14:59:00] | MonMotha: | they take 4:3 content and stretch it to 16:9, and broadcast it taht way |
| [14:59:00] | MonMotha: | which really sucks if you're on a TV without aspect ratio override |
| [14:59:00] | MonMotha: | AlHaz: hit w |
| [14:59:00] | AlHaz: | k |
| [14:59:00] | MonMotha: | that's aspect ratio override |
| [14:59:00] | MonMotha: | the zooms are in there somewhere |
| [15:00:00] | MonMotha: | there's also a manual zoom if you have a 16:9 TV and are watching something that's widescreen, but not that wide (you can get it to where it's still barn doored, but not also letterboxed) |
| [15:02:00] | AlHaz: | I perhaps made a mistake in purchasing the winegard antenna. I have a friend who runs an AV consulting/retail/installation business, he tells me winegard antennae typically have a lot of gain but aren't particularly directional |
| [15:02:00] | AlHaz: | maybe I'd be better off with less gain, more directional |
| [15:02:00] | MonMotha: | gain and directionality generally go together |
| [15:02:00] | AlHaz: | yeah, I know |
| [15:03:00] | MonMotha: | but yes, if you have multipath problems, more directionality is better |
| [15:03:00] | MonMotha: | you can always compensate for excessive gain with an attenuator |
| [15:03:00] | AlHaz: | there are mountains, though, so i could be getting multipath |
| [15:04:00] | MonMotha: | yes, possibly |
| [15:04:00] | AlHaz: | there |
| [15:04:00] | AlHaz: | it's entirely possible that i'm the only person in the building trying to use the antenna |
| [15:04:00] | AlHaz: | but since i only speak to one of my neighbors, *shrug* |
| [15:04:00] | MonMotha: | wow, linux needs better documentation |
| [15:05:00] | MonMotha: | the current USB API is virtually undocumented |
| [15:05:00] | AlHaz: | I've been here 5 years, guy next to me – weirdo israeli programmer – has been here 7. the apartments on the back of the place never have anybody in 'em for more than a year. people come and go, and none of them are very interesting. |
| [15:06:00] | AlHaz: | I'm not against being neighborly but i have a hard time socializing with people that i have nothing in common with except a wall, so i mostly ignore them. |
| [15:07:00] | AlHaz: | need to buy a house, so i can ignore them from a safe distance. |
| [15:09:00] | AlHaz: | it's the little things that tip me off as to whether new tennants actually use their brains or are just going through the motions. Like if they choose to park their moving van on the lawn in front of their door, or in the parking lot where it makes it impossible for me to get in or out of my parking space. |
| [15:10:00] | AlHaz: | despite the words "NO PARKING" painted every 3 feet across where they parked it |
| [15:11:00] | honey is now known as honeyzzz | |
| [15:11:00] | AlHaz: | the next clue is the little painted wood decorations hung around their door. |
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| [16:12:00] | jonK: | good morning, anyone around? |
| [16:12:00] | Tommck_: | I am |
| [16:12:00] | jonK: | any thoughts on an "coulnd't upgrate database to new schema" error |
| [16:13:00] | Tommck_: | sounds like youre fooked |
| [16:13:00] | Tommck_: | ;) |
| [16:13:00] | Tommck_: | no idea |
| [16:13:00] | jonK: | poo |
| [16:14:00] | Tommck_: | did you google/search? |
| [16:14:00] | jonK: | not yet |
| [16:14:00] | jonK: | it looks like it's finding a duplicate primary key violation when inserting data into "xvmc_bugger_settings" |
| [16:15:00] | jonK: | was thinkign of just removing that row and seeing what happens |
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| [16:15:00] | Tommck_: | sure.. why not? |
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| [16:16:00] | jonK: | table has two rows |
| [16:19:00] | jonK: | looks to be trying to insert an identical row 1 to what's already there |
| [16:19:00] | Tommck_: | could be a bug |
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| [16:22:00] | jonK: | now it's doing the exact same thing for row 2 |
| [16:22:00] | Tommck_: | :) |
| [16:22:00] | Tommck_: | did you back up your DB? |
| [16:23:00] | jonK: | lol ... when i ran mythbackend the second time, it inserted row 1 again, and errored when it found row 2 |
| [16:24:00] | jonK: | i deleted row 2 and it erroed from the reinserted row 1 |
| [16:24:00] | jonK: | deleting both |
| [16:24:00] | Tommck_: | jonK – did you back up your DB before this? |
| [16:24:00] | jonK: | no, I prefer edge living |
| [16:25:00] | jonK: | that worked, deleted both rows |
| [16:25:00] | Tommck_: | I think the Romans would say "caveat dumbass" or something like that ;) |
| [16:25:00] | jonK: | i think I must have ran mythbackend and it began a schema upgrade that for some reason did not complete, or did not get marked as completed |
| [16:25:00] | jonK: | then, when ran a second time tried to do the upgrade |
| [16:26:00] | jonK: | but failed on duplicate data |
| [16:26:00] | Tommck_: | yeah |
| [16:26:00] | jonK: | now both of the 2 rows are in the particular table |
| [16:26:00] | jonK: | and all is well |
| [16:26:00] | Tommck_: | cool |
| [16:27:00] | jonK: | is there a way to add recorded shows to the database without trying to manually add data to mythconverg? |
| [16:27:00] | jonK: | i have a pile of recordings from prior installation |
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| [16:28:00] | pete_: | hey guys, is anyone using an irblaster with multiple Starchoice 305/315 receivers (other models are compat)? I'm looking for an lirc file with conf for alternate remote codes |
| [16:28:00] | jonK: | that i can either delete or add back to mythconverg if it can be done |
| [16:28:00] | jonK: | I don't know if show data (title, description...) is encoded in the .nuv file though |
| [16:28:00] | jonK: | if not, I'll just have to delete |
| [16:31:00] | Tommck_: | jonK – why weren't they carried forward in the upgrade? |
| [16:31:00] | Tommck_: | or do you mean you reinstalled the whole machine? |
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| [17:01:00] | jonK: | Tommck_: were not carreid forward when i installed the whole machien |
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| [17:01:00] | Tommck_: | ahh... that's that whole "not backing up the database" thing again :) |
| [17:02:00] | jonK: | i did backup the database, but still just wanted to selectively include somethings, but not others |
| [17:02:00] | jonK: | had to boot from an install cd, get shell prompt and pull the database |
| [17:02:00] | Tommck_: | you could always just take them all and delete the others later |
| [17:02:00] | jonK: | bah |
| [17:04:00] | jams: | jonk all you want is to transfer your recorded info from the old database? |
| [17:04:00] | jams: | do you have recordings you want to keep in the "new" database? |
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| [17:14:00] | jonK: | jams: i have around 200–220 .nuv files of recorded programs |
| [17:15:00] | Tommck_: | I see why you wouldn't want to back up your database ;) |
| [17:19:00] | jonK: | only a couple things i really care about though |
| [17:19:00] | jonK: | the rest is all stuff in syndication that will just build backup anyway |
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| [17:24:00] | jonK: | i'm still tryng to get everything to work, exactly the way i want it to work, |
| [17:27:00] | Tommck_: | jonK – aren't we all? :) |
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| [17:32:00] | ** Tommck_ thinks smoke's installing software on Windows based on the number of "signed off/joined" messages he sees ** | |
| [17:39:00] | jonK: | i still have a dead tuner on a pvr500 and the hd3000 to get working |
| [17:39:00] | Tommck_: | :) |
| [17:40:00] | rsdvd: | Hi.......is there anyone around who knows how to install a Nova-T ? I am having a few problems |
| [17:41:00] | Tommck_: | [RedneckVoice] Is that some kinda Chevy? [/RedneckVoice] |
| [17:42:00] | rsdvd: | what's a chevy? |
| [17:42:00] | Tommck_: | Chevrolet... a brand of car |
| [17:42:00] | rsdvd: | LOL....ok ... we don;t gte them this side of the pond |
| [17:43:00] | Tommck_: | :) |
| [17:43:00] | rsdvd: | I was refering to the Hauppague Nova-T DVB-T card |
| [17:43:00] | Tommck_: | I don't know much about DVB |
| [17:44:00] | rsdvd: | have you ever heard of the module 2.6.11-kraxel1? the kernel won;t recompile becuase it is missng....but I have no idea what it is |
| [17:45:00] | Tommck_: | nope |
| [17:45:00] | rsdvd: | Sh1te......anyone else know anything about DVB-T ?.... please :-( |
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| [17:52:00] | CyberKnet: | Nope. |
| [17:53:00] | rsdvd: | is there noone in here today that is using DVB-T with MythTV? no UK users with freeview? |
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| [18:01:00] | CyberKnet: | rsdvd: It would appear not at this time. |
| [18:01:00] | rsdvd: | Arh well.... thanks anyway.......I might try back later |
| [18:01:00] | CyberKnet: | alritey. |
| [18:01:00] | CyberKnet: | Hope you get it fixed in the mean time. |
| [18:02:00] | rsdvd: | I doubt it.....my Linux expertise is rather limited (although I have been using it for 10 years) |
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| [18:07:00] | CyberKnet: | we all start somewhere. |
| [18:08:00] | rsdvd: | I know.......I was quite proud of myself when I got MythTv working on a frontend and a separate backend (with a PVR-150) now I need to add the Nova-T an dI am stuck |
| [18:09:00] | CyberKnet: | There must be several guides out there though. |
| [18:09:00] | CyberKnet: | Maybe one of them can help while you wait for someone who also has that hardware that wouldn't mind helping you out. |
| [18:10:00] | rsdvd: | there are....but they all seem to assume you understand about recompiling the kernel........something I have never done and when I try it screwws up on that module i mentioned before |
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| [18:17:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [18:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | Man, this work thing kinda sucks |
| [18:17:00] | jonK: | depends on what you do |
| [18:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'd so much rather be out Kayaking or something |
| [18:18:00] | jonK: | do you think the river guide thinks to himself: Damn this sucks, i wish i was in the office getting out my TPS reports |
| [18:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | jonK: I haven't really considered what he thinks since I am not him :) But I highly doubt he's worried about whether or not he got the memo about the new cover sheet :) |
| [18:20:00] | CyberKnet: | heh. |
| [18:20:00] | CyberKnet: | I wonder if the river guide hates his job =) |
| [18:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | And of course since I do ocean Kayaking I've never considered a river guide :) heh |
| [18:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | probably |
| [18:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | eventually most any job would get tedious and boring |
| [18:21:00] | CyberKnet: | hmmm |
| [18:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | Otherwise it wouldn't be a "job" :) |
| [18:22:00] | xris: | my job has gotten better. they gave me a minion. |
| [18:22:00] | xris: | who is late. |
| [18:22:00] | CyberKnet: | again? |
| [18:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [18:22:00] | CyberKnet: | tsk tsk. |
| [18:22:00] | jonK: | well i haven't been "missing it |
| [18:22:00] | xris: | well, he worked at least an hour late yesterday to work off taking some time off on friday. |
| [18:22:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: You're going to have to get your minion an alarm clock and a mega battery backup. both his power and alarm clock seem to be unreliable =P" |
| [18:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've been really bored, unchallenged and quite unsatisified with my current job. I need something involving more R&D and less customer facing :) |
| [18:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | OR move somewhere and become a dolphin trainer or something heh |
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| [18:23:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: I wonder if the dolphin trainer ever gets fed up with his job. |
| [18:23:00] | CyberKnet: | "No, kiki. No more fish. You're just not trying hard enough." |
| [18:23:00] | CyberKnet: | I wonder if the dolphin ever gets tired of his phb trainer... =P" |
| [18:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have no doubt |
| [18:24:00] | CyberKnet: | "Dammit. I want that fish. I'm gonna bite his hand off. Gimme that fish!" |
| [18:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | but it will be a something new for a while, til it's stale and boring again. Thenon to the next one! :) |
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| [18:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | MythThemedDialog.o: something is requesting a screen update of zero size. A widget probably has not done a calculateScreeArea(). Will redraw the whole screen (inefficient!). |
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| [18:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Blah, wonder what I did to cause that :) |
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| [18:28:00] | jams: | GreyFoxx, it's done that for some time |
| [18:28:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: I would guess that you made a widget miss its call to calculateScreenArea() |
| [18:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | jams: not what I'm seeing. This is something new I've introduced in the last couple days |
| [18:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | CyberKnet: Why thank you, I never would have gleamed that from the message :) |
| [18:29:00] | jams: | I'm just saying mythgame has done that to me for at least the last two months |
| [18:29:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: heh =) |
| [18:29:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: would be easier for me to help you if you had a stack trace from when that message was given ;) |
| [18:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | jams: The versions I've been messing with didn't do it until a few days ago. At the moment it doesn't seem to be having an adverse effect |
| [18:32:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: marginal video cards show up the full screen refresh issues much worse than recent ones though... for instance, my Riva TNT2 feels very marginal at times =) |
| [18:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [18:32:00] | ** CyberKnet will get around to upgrading that some day. ** | |
| [18:33:00] | CyberKnet: | would be nice to get TV out eventually instead of VGA->scan converter |
| [18:33:00] | CyberKnet: | scan converters are awful. |
| [18:33:00] | CyberKnet: | if you are using analog TV, that is. |
| [18:33:00] | ** GreyFoxx notes that the error message has a typo in it ** | |
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| [18:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah, I've got a couple scan converters laying around. Ugly stuff :) |
| [18:34:00] | CyberKnet: | mine is an AVerKey 3 ... better than a large portion of them. |
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| [18:45:00] | emes: | what's the name of the ivtv channel? |
| [18:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | #ivtv-dev |
| [18:51:00] | CyberKnet: | emes: google a little, eh? |
| [18:51:00] | CyberKnet: | =) |
| [18:53:00] | laga: | alias google "/join #mythtv-users" |
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| [19:01:00] | iznogood: | Hi, This might be an off topic question, but I presume a lot of you know how to hammer this one |
| [19:01:00] | iznogood: | Is there anywhere I can get a clue which IR device I should choose, in kernel and or in lirc? |
| [19:01:00] | iznogood: | I have an internal irda port in my barebone |
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| [19:02:00] | CyberKnet: | alias msg quit |
| [19:02:00] | CyberKnet: | =) |
| [19:02:00] | Kronuz: | hello |
| [19:02:00] | CyberKnet: | er.. that would be in response to laga's alias =) |
| [19:03:00] | kormoc: | hihi |
| [19:03:00] | CyberKnet: | iznogood: you choose an ir device that has a PS/2 interface |
| [19:03:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: wow. =) Simply wow. |
| [19:03:00] | Kronuz: | hey, what would be needed to make MythMusic not to stop playing the MP3s once you go back to other menues? |
| [19:03:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: heh |
| [19:03:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: I don't think even I could pull off being that late =P" |
| [19:03:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [19:03:00] | CyberKnet: | Kronuz: an architecture overhaul. |
| [19:04:00] | kormoc: | Luckly xris is awesome :P |
| [19:04:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: very lucky. |
| [19:04:00] | Kronuz: | like if you want to kepp the music while you configure MythTV or while you see some slideshows |
| [19:04:00] | Kronuz: | CyberKnet: would it really be that difficult? |
| [19:04:00] | iznogood: | CyberKnet: I'm not sure I understand completely, do I choose the driver which uses PS/2 or do I have to buy an external one? |
| [19:04:00] | CyberKnet: | Kronuz: aye. |
| [19:05:00] | CyberKnet: | iznogood: I was tongue-in-cheek inferring you should just get a PS/2 or USB infrared keyboard. |
| [19:05:00] | CyberKnet: | iznogood: they're a ton easier than setting up lirc. |
| [19:05:00] | Kronuz: | CyberKnet: I was thinking about launching a child process playing the MP3 and then exit the plugin while leaving the child running (then when you go back to the plugin it checks for the running child.... which would be more like a MP3 player server/client) |
| [19:05:00] | ** kormoc perfers RF ps/2 devices ** | |
| [19:06:00] | iznogood: | I want to use a remote control, not an keyboard :) |
| [19:06:00] | Kronuz: | then whenever you start liveTV or DVD or vide player, you just stop the MP3 player that's on the background (if any) |
| [19:06:00] | kormoc: | Kronuz, till you want to watch a recording and have to go to myth music to stop the music? |
| [19:06:00] | kormoc: | how do those plugins know to stop it? |
| [19:07:00] | Kronuz: | nope, it would be needed to change a bit the code for the other plugins probably... |
| [19:07:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: RF PS/2 device is good if you can still find a niveus media remote |
| [19:07:00] | kormoc: | sounds a bit... messy imho |
| [19:07:00] | Kronuz: | or to add a "before start plugin" callback list |
| [19:07:00] | CyberKnet: | iznogood: You hae a learning remote learn the IR codes from the IR keyboard, silly. |
| [19:07:00] | Kronuz: | to which any plugin could attach a function |
| [19:08:00] | iznogood: | That won't do, because I want to use the mediacentre remote |
| [19:08:00] | Kronuz: | (MythMusic would attach a stop playing routing if the plugin to be started is incompatible like a DVD player or LiveTV) |
| [19:08:00] | CyberKnet: | Kronuz: I think you should search the dev archives. this has been discussed before. |
| [19:08:00] | Kronuz: | hmm |
| [19:08:00] | Kronuz: | CyberKnet: and how did it all ended? |
| [19:09:00] | CyberKnet: | iznogood: well then you'll have to find an IR blaster and deal with lirc. I can't help you with that because I like to keep my sanity and not run lirc. |
| [19:09:00] | CyberKnet: | Kronuz: search and find out. |
| [19:09:00] | Kronuz: | lol |
| [19:09:00] | Kronuz: | :P |
| [19:09:00] | iznogood: | Is it that hard? |
| [19:09:00] | CyberKnet: | Kronuz: What? I don't use mythmusic. why would I remember the outcome? I didn't follow the threads very closely. |
| [19:10:00] | CyberKnet: | iznogood: I know that I personally prefer to avoid it, as do many other people. But you want the Media Center remote, so that's not an option for you. |
| [19:10:00] | Kronuz: | 'cause I think that's a must (to be able to hear music while you're in the gallery slideshow) |
| [19:10:00] | CyberKnet: | Kronuz: no, _TV_ is a must for MythTV |
| [19:10:00] | CyberKnet: | ;) |
| [19:10:00] | Kronuz: | lol |
| [19:10:00] | Kronuz: | and perhaps also while configuring/navigating MythTV |
| [19:10:00] | CyberKnet: | Music is a "nice to have" in MythTV |
| [19:10:00] | Kronuz: | (it would be nice) |
| [19:11:00] | CyberKnet: | that's why MythMusic is a plugin, and TV is integrated. |
| [19:11:00] | Kronuz: | nicer then |
| [19:11:00] | CyberKnet: | Kronuz: well, go find the archived copy of those threads. I'd try a search for MythTV music background |
| [19:11:00] | CyberKnet: | ymmv. |
| [19:12:00] | Kronuz: | the plugins can rally use some work (to add consistency and improve usability) |
| [19:12:00] | CyberKnet: | Kronuz: volunteering? =) |
| [19:12:00] | Kronuz: | I guess :) |
| [19:13:00] | Kronuz: | but I hope I can find the time :( |
| [19:13:00] | CyberKnet: | Kronuz: good. I'll anticipate your patches =) |
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| [19:13:00] | Kronuz: | I'm really really bussy most of the time... |
| [19:13:00] | CyberKnet: | yeah. ditto. |
| [19:13:00] | Kronuz: | but I'll work on it, I'll find some time :) |
| [19:14:00] | Kronuz: | I'm also wanting to try completing the UI |
| [19:14:00] | Kronuz: | the new one, that is |
| [19:14:00] | Kronuz: | is it stalled right now? |
| [19:14:00] | CyberKnet: | I'd really go check out those old threads though about backgrounding the music. I'm sure they can provide some insight as to why it would take an architecture change to facilitate it. |
| [19:14:00] | CyberKnet: | mythui? It's not stalled as far as I know. |
| [19:14:00] | Kronuz: | oh, cool :) |
| [19:15:00] | Kronuz: | 'cause the fading effect is really cool |
| [19:15:00] | CyberKnet: | Chutt was just bragging on it some a few nights ago =) |
| [19:15:00] | CyberKnet: | and I think I saw mythcontrols get checked in fairly recently. |
| [19:15:00] | CyberKnet: | although I do confess I don't watch the commits as closely as I should, or as closely as I used to. |
| [19:16:00] | Kronuz: | I just need to setup my SSH so I can work from this computer |
| [19:17:00] | Kronuz: | tho' what I hate are those ghosts I see on LiveTV with my PVR350 :( |
| [19:17:00] | CyberKnet: | ssh with PKI is a wonder =) |
| [19:17:00] | honeyzzz is now known as honey | |
| [19:17:00] | Kronuz: | :) |
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| [19:18:00] | Kronuz: | so, it's Chutt who's working on MythUI? |
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| [19:20:00] | rjune: | http://www.bravegnuworld.com/~rjune/janitor.txt |
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| [19:21:00] | CyberKnet: | Kronuz: I don't have a conclusive list of everyone working on MythUI |
| [19:21:00] | Kronuz: | I think there are several possible solutions for the background music (and some easy workarounds, which could probably be dirty tricks) |
| [19:21:00] | CyberKnet: | rjune: is that link sfw? |
| [19:21:00] | rjune: | CyberKnet: oh yeah |
| [19:22:00] | rjune: | unless taking potshots at MS isn't sfw |
| [19:22:00] | kormoc: | Kronuz, that's the main issue imho. if it's a dirty trick, it likly won't ever be accepted. |
| [19:22:00] | Kronuz: | CyberKnet: who are the project leaders? |
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| [19:22:00] | laga: | sounds like the usual 'american way of life' bullshit ;) |
| [19:22:00] | kormoc: | rjune, I work for MS, you insensitive clod! |
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| [19:22:00] | kormoc: | :P |
| [19:22:00] | rjune: | sorry for you kormoc |
| [19:22:00] | Kronuz: | kormoc: perhaps a temporary dirty trick that does the job |
| [19:22:00] | marc_in_lux: | good evening |
| [19:22:00] | laga: | kormoc: you do what? |
| [19:23:00] | marc_in_lux: | are ivtv questions welcome here? |
| [19:23:00] | marc_in_lux: | the #ivtv channel is eerily quiet |
| [19:23:00] | Kronuz: | #ivtv is always dead |
| [19:23:00] | marc_in_lux: | #ivtv-de... |
| [19:23:00] | marc_in_lux: | v |
| [19:24:00] | kormoc: | laga, rjune, it was a joke :P |
| [19:24:00] | kormoc: | Kronuz, ahh, but why do a temp dirty work around? why not just do it right the first time? |
| [19:24:00] | Kronuz: | CyberKnet: I mean, if I make a patch or add a plugin, who should I send it to? and who would decide if it's approved or not? |
| [19:24:00] | laga: | kormoc: not funny |
| [19:24:00] | Kronuz: | kormoc: 'cause the dirty trick would be fast |
| [19:25:00] | Kronuz: | (and would solve the problem while a better solution is implemented |
| [19:25:00] | kormoc: | Kronuz, the maintainer of mythtv would deal with the myth interface changes, and the maintainer of mythmusic would deal with that. |
| [19:25:00] | kormoc: | laga, meh. I thought it was |
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| [19:26:00] | Kronuz: | kormoc: that's what I thought, but who are they? who are the "maintainers" or project leaders? |
| [19:26:00] | sdog: | Anyone got a .lirc file for an iMon remonte ? |
| [19:26:00] | kormoc: | Kronuz, chutt/issac is the mythtv leader/maintainer |
| [19:26:00] | kormoc: | Kronuz, you'll ahve to google for the myth music one. |
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| [19:27:00] | Kronuz: | kormoc: oh, I see |
| [19:28:00] | Kronuz: | kormoc: and for patches, you know who's receiving them for approval? |
| [19:28:00] | kormoc: | Kronuz, chutt for mythtv, and google the maintainer for mythmusic :P |
| [19:29:00] | Tommck: | Someone should add a section to the MythTV Wikis with how the development process works |
| [19:29:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [19:29:00] | Tommck: | I had no friggin idea a while back and it's not documented anywhere |
| [19:31:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, you really should put a troubleshooting in your wiki. |
| [19:32:00] | Beirdo: | you put it in there if you want it :) |
| [19:32:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:32:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [19:32:00] | kormoc: | fair nuff :P |
| [19:32:00] | Beirdo: | that's how wikis work :P) |
| [19:32:00] | kormoc: | yeah, but I'm just as lazy as you are :P |
| [19:32:00] | Beirdo: | God knows I don't have the time |
| [19:32:00] | Chutt: | http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/MythTvDevelopmentHowTo |
| [19:33:00] | Chutt: | yeah, it's not documented anywhere. |
| [19:33:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:33:00] | Kronuz: | hi Chutt! :) |
| [19:35:00] | Tommck: | well, either I was missing something or this wasn't as thorough 6 months ago |
| [19:35:00] | Tommck: | (when I was trying to do something) |
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| [19:35:00] | Beirdo: | doubt that page has changed much |
| [19:35:00] | Tommck: | Guess I'm wrong |
| [19:36:00] | Tommck: | (cached 2005-01–24 09:49:25) |
| [19:36:00] | Chutt: | last edited 2005-02–16 20:17:16 |
| [19:36:00] | Tommck: | then again, I know I didn't know about mythtv.info at the beginning :) |
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| [19:36:00] | Tommck: | oh.. sorry. I moved on to SubmittingBugFixes |
| [19:39:00] | CyberKnet: | ;) |
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| [19:40:00] | Kronuz: | other thing to add to MythMusic is the ability to play from CDs more easily (without the need to modify the playlist, and perhaps without mounting them) |
| [19:41:00] | Chutt: | they don't get mounted now. |
| [19:41:00] | Kronuz: | hmm.. they don't? |
| [19:41:00] | Chutt: | nope |
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| [19:42:00] | Kronuz: | that's cool, trying right now :) |
| [19:42:00] | Kronuz: | what about DVDs with MP3s? |
| [19:42:00] | Chutt: | not supported, really |
| [19:42:00] | Chutt: | no concept of a set of stuff that's on removeable media |
| [19:43:00] | Kronuz: | Chutt: what do you mean? |
| [19:43:00] | ** laga has been hacking on mythmusic to add at least some kind of support for filling portable players with mp3s ** | |
| [19:43:00] | laga: | it's fun when you don't know c/c++ ;) |
| [19:43:00] | Chutt: | mythmusic has no support for a collection of songs that's on removeable media. |
| [19:44:00] | Kronuz: | oh |
| [19:44:00] | Kronuz: | that's something to add then :) |
| [19:44:00] | Chutt: | not really |
| [19:44:00] | Chutt: | belongs in mfd |
| [19:44:00] | Kronuz: | mfd? |
| [19:44:00] | Kronuz: | what's mfd? |
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| [19:44:00] | Chutt: | search the lists |
| [19:45:00] | Tommck: | whoa... my alter ego just signed off |
| [19:46:00] | Kronuz: | mfd/mfe everywhere, but it doesn't say what it is (except that's some sort of protocol) :P |
| [19:46:00] | Tommck: | anyone else having issues getting to www.mythtv.org? |
| [19:46:00] | Kronuz: | me |
| [19:46:00] | Kronuz: | it's down it seems |
| [19:47:00] | Tommck: | ah |
| [19:47:00] | Tommck: | glad it's not just me |
| [19:49:00] | Chutt: | minor hardware issues |
| [19:49:00] | Chutt: | it's supposedly resyncing the raid array now |
| [19:49:00] | Beirdo: | oh fun |
| [19:50:00] | Kronuz: | that sounds dangerous |
| [19:50:00] | Tommck: | ah.. cool |
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| [19:51:00] | kormoc: | meh, it could just be a gamma rays from the sun hit a turtle and caused it to byte a phone wire sending a surge to the colo, which sent it up the t3 into the box, around the nic and then to the raid controler where it say, oh, overwrite the boot sector? don't mind if I do! which caused the disks to have to resync. |
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| [19:51:00] | Tommck: | sounds reasonable |
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| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: you put the crack pipe down, dude :) |
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| [19:52:00] | Kronuz: | lol |
| [19:53:00] | laga: | sounds more like LSD to me |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | shrooms |
| [19:53:00] | Tommck: | paint thinner? |
| [19:53:00] | Kronuz: | is that what LSD makes you see? cool! |
| [19:53:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: I think he had it surgically implanted. |
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| [19:53:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: with a chainsaw? |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:53:00] | kormoc: | a dull butter knife |
| [19:53:00] | laga: | heh |
| [19:54:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: err... a spoon =) |
| [19:54:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: remember, there is no spoon. |
| [19:54:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: I'm still in the grid, and I have no desire to escape. The spoon is real =) |
| [19:54:00] | ** kormoc spoons CyberKnet's grid. ** | |
| [19:55:00] | CyberKnet: | gah! |
| [19:55:00] | Beirdo: | ewww, no spooning in the channel |
| [19:55:00] | CyberKnet: | I'll second that. |
| [19:55:00] | CyberKnet: | *please* |
| [19:55:00] | laga: | /help query |
| [19:55:00] | CyberKnet: | no more. =) |
| [19:55:00] | Kronuz: | all the i18n folders are just there for internationalization, right? |
| [19:55:00] | kormoc: | :P |
| [19:55:00] | CyberKnet: | Kronuz: of course not |
| [19:56:00] | Kronuz: | O_o |
| [19:56:00] | CyberKnet: | Kronuz: They're also pixie dust recepticles. |
| [19:56:00] | Kronuz: | lol |
| [19:56:00] | CyberKnet: | don't ask. |
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| [19:57:00] | ignatius: | anyone here use the ati tvwonder pro? |
| [19:58:00] | kormoc: | Well, hello there, how are ya? good to meet ya? staying long? |
| [19:58:00] | ** kormoc puts down the crack pipe to shake ignatius' hand. ** | |
| [19:58:00] | ignatius: | heh |
| [19:58:00] | Kronuz: | where can I find what's the API for plugins? |
| [19:58:00] | ignatius: | well I'm just trying to get my tvwonder pro cap card to work lol |
| [19:59:00] | Tommck: | kormoc – funny thing is that most people seem to get annoyed when people come in and say "hi" |
| [19:59:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [19:59:00] | kormoc: | at times, yeah |
| [19:59:00] | ignatius: | right |
| [19:59:00] | ignatius: | so you know |
| [20:00:00] | Beirdo: | especially if they do so a second after joining :) |
| [20:00:00] | ignatius: | I tried to be nice without incurring wrath |
| [20:00:00] | Tommck: | :) |
| [20:00:00] | Beirdo: | ignatius: not me, I use PVR250 |
| [20:00:00] | ignatius: | hmmm |
| [20:00:00] | CyberKnet: | Tommck: it' all about the timing. |
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| [20:01:00] | Tommck: | or the Benjamins |
| [20:01:00] | emilylove: | Hello again Gang!!!!!!!! |
| [20:01:00] | CyberKnet: | when you join a room, you should stop and wait a minute or so. make sure nothing else is going on before you potentially interrupt something. |
| [20:01:00] | Tommck: | hello emilylove |
| [20:01:00] | kormoc: | hihi emilylove \ |
| [20:01:00] | kormoc: | CyberKnet, unless you are female? :P |
| [20:01:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:01:00] | Tommck: | kormoc – sounds OK to me |
| [20:02:00] | emilylove: | what's going on today? |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | not much... just work for me |
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| [20:02:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: exactly. |
| [20:02:00] | emilylove: | ok, I've got the wierdest thing... |
| [20:02:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, evendently I convinced the channel that I'm on crack, but other then that, not much :P |
| [20:02:00] | CyberKnet: | bbiaf, lunch =) |
| [20:02:00] | Tommck: | Beirdo – maybe she already works for someone else, didn't you think of that? |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | _KonvIRC: you need a real nick :) |
| [20:02:00] | _KonvIRC: | beirdo: right :) |
| [20:02:00] | laga: | kormoc: not that we didn't know before |
| [20:02:00] | _KonvIRC is now known as gorkem_c | |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | Tommck: that was a statement, not an offer :) |
| [20:02:00] | gorkem_c: | Hi |
| [20:02:00] | emilylove: | Myth isn't working with freedb...but if it is cached through kscd it will read it... |
| [20:02:00] | Tommck: | hehe.. I know :) |
| [20:03:00] | kormoc: | laga, that obvious eh? |
| [20:03:00] | emilylove: | but myth WILL read freedb if I run it as root |
| [20:03:00] | kormoc: | odd... |
| [20:03:00] | emilylove: | some stupid perms thing and I can't for the life of me figure it out |
| [20:03:00] | ignatius: | hrm |
| [20:04:00] | ignatius: | bbl |
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| [20:04:00] | gorkem_c: | Hi.. I'm using ivtv with WinTV PVR 250 and I successfully installed ivtv modules. But I cannot get any video streaming signal from /dev/video since I think /dev/video is erroneously generated. Is there a URL link (or way) that shows me how to make /dev/videoXX nodes ? |
| [20:04:00] | kormoc: | gorkem_c, depends on your distro, iirc. |
| [20:04:00] | gorkem_c: | kormoc: I use suse 9.2, but would like to know about other distros too – maybe they can help. |
| [20:05:00] | emilylove: | argh hold on a minute |
| [20:05:00] | zuralin: | install udev :P |
| [20:05:00] | kormoc: | yeah, udev rox da sox |
| [20:06:00] | gorkem_c: | zuralin: suse 9.2 does not come with udev :( |
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| [20:07:00] | zuralin: | install it |
| [20:07:00] | Tommck: | gorkem_c – did you try other /dev/videoXX links? |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | udev = ARGH in my books |
| [20:08:00] | kormoc: | ooh? |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | it drives me nuts |
| [20:08:00] | zuralin: | i love udev.. early versions were a PITA tho |
| [20:08:00] | Tommck: | I once had an ARGH in my books... it was really painful |
| [20:09:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, any preticular reason? |
| [20:09:00] | Beirdo: | I like /dev entries that don't disappear and change on me |
| [20:09:00] | rw: | Beirdo, heya |
| [20:09:00] | rw: | Beirdo, cvs is down? |
| [20:09:00] | laga: | Beirdo: ack |
| [20:09:00] | Beirdo: | and udev busts all kinds of things for me |
| [20:09:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [20:09:00] | kormoc: | ooh? |
| [20:09:00] | Beirdo: | rw: I think the machine's in maintenence mode right now |
| [20:09:00] | gorkem_c: | It writes here: http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-pagehistory.php?p . . . amp;source=2 |
| [20:09:00] | gorkem_c: | tommck: Yes i did – until 64 and gave up :) |
| [20:10:00] | emilylove: | ok why would mythmusic not be allow to access freedb on the web? |
| [20:10:00] | Tommck: | kormoc – no.. it's Aaaarrgghh... from the back of the throat... |
| [20:10:00] | rw: | Beirdo, any idea when it will be available again? |
| [20:10:00] | Beirdo: | that would be a question for Chutt, I dunno |
| [20:10:00] | Chutt: | it'll be back when it's back |
| [20:10:00] | Tommck: | gorkem_c – you have 64 /dev/videoXX entries? |
| [20:10:00] | Tommck: | emilylove – it's been bad and is being punished? |
| [20:11:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, nothing in the term window or anythin? |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | Chutt: fair enough, I know how that goes :) |
| [20:12:00] | Chutt: | back in a few :p |
| [20:12:00] | rw: | Chutt, okie dokie |
| [20:12:00] | emilylove: | in the term window? |
| [20:13:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, run mythfrontend in a terminal, it'll spit out random stuff and you can see if it spits out a error |
| [20:13:00] | emilylove: | thats cool kor... I didn't know that... |
| [20:13:00] | emilylove: | alright im running it |
| [20:13:00] | rw: | we've hired a girl to translate the frontend to brazilian portuguese... |
| [20:14:00] | laga: | rw: cool stuff |
| [20:14:00] | emilylove: | ahhhhhh |
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| [20:14:00] | emilylove: | its trying to use a proxy |
| [20:14:00] | emilylove: | cannot register; proxy, username, or pasword not set |
| [20:14:00] | kormoc: | ahh, so there ya go, you have why it's doing that :P |
| [20:19:00] | jonK: | can you grab raw data from the device (e.g., try #cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg |
| [20:20:00] | jonK: | wait.. wrong channel |
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| [20:21:00] | emilylove: | where is myth configured to use a proxy? it works in freedb |
| [20:21:00] | Chutt: | stuff should be back now |
| [20:21:00] | kormoc: | #cat eh? unix util channel or feline fun? |
| [20:22:00] | emilylove: | and username/password? what do you need a username and password for? |
| [20:22:00] | kormoc: | some proxys require a user/pass to allow use |
| [20:22:00] | emilylove: | to acess a ficticious proxy? |
| [20:23:00] | rw: | Chutt, it's working, thanks. |
| [20:24:00] | emilylove: | what is SIP? |
| [20:24:00] | emilylove: | what you do with a fine wine? |
| [20:24:00] | kormoc: | indeed |
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| [20:25:00] | kormoc: | but it's also Session Initiation Protocol |
| [20:25:00] | jonK: | seesion initiation protocol |
| [20:25:00] | emilylove: | brb |
| [20:25:00] | jonK: | used for voip i believe |
| [20:25:00] | kormoc: | used for a lot of things |
| [20:28:00] | GeckoFiend: | emilylove those errors you're seeing are coming from MythPhone... |
| [20:30:00] | emilylove: | oh heh thanks gecko |
| [20:32:00] | emilylove: | so then no...there is no output |
| [20:32:00] | kormoc: | odd.... |
| [20:33:00] | emilylove: | but if i run as root it works |
| [20:33:00] | emilylove: | or if I load the cd in KSCD it works..and then myth will load it from the cache |
| [20:35:00] | emilylove: | and myth can write to .cddb because it actually puts a record in there for "unknown" |
| [20:37:00] | emilylove: | oh and by the way the ati tv wonder pci works perfect, just a small change to modprobe.conf... |
| [20:38:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, what bout removing .cddb totally and then tring? |
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| [20:41:00] | emilylove: | hmmm...alright kor...ill give it a shot |
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| [20:52:00] | emilylove: | ok im also having this funky problem where it isn't detecting the cd in the drive every time... |
| [20:52:00] | emilylove: | that is myth isn't...I havn't had a prob with kscd |
| [20:55:00] | emilylove: | nope deleting the .cddb didn't work |
| [20:56:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, did it create a new one? |
| [20:57:00] | sdog: | hoeveel poesjes zitten er bij u ? |
| [20:57:00] | laga: | sdog: bless ya |
| [20:58:00] | sdog: | grmbl.. wrong # ;) |
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| [20:58:00] | laga: | hehe |
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| [21:00:00] | emilylove: | kormac yes |
| [21:00:00] | ** kormoc strokes his beard in ponderance. ** | |
| [21:01:00] | ** laga hands kormoc the razor ** | |
| [21:02:00] | kormoc: | is it a black motorola razor phone? |
| [21:02:00] | ** kormoc gets excited. ** | |
| [21:02:00] | laga: | not the razor v3 ;) |
| [21:02:00] | kormoc: | drat :P |
| [21:02:00] | laga: | i'd prefer a hiptop anyways |
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| [21:02:00] | hadees: | i just like a smart phone that works with linux |
| [21:03:00] | hadees: | i just would like |
| [21:03:00] | laga: | yep |
| [21:03:00] | hadees: | i have heard some mixed reviews on the treo 650 and hence why i didn't buy one... |
| [21:03:00] | pete_: | hey guys, is anyone using an irblaster with multiple Starchoice 305/315 receivers (other models are compat)? I'm looking for an lirc file with conf for alternate remote codes |
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| [21:04:00] | hadees: | laga, some of us have to work for a living |
| [21:05:00] | laga: | hadees: and what's your point? |
| [21:05:00] | rjune: | hadees: that's just silly no we don't |
| [21:09:00] | Beirdo: | hahaha |
| [21:09:00] | Beirdo: | google maps directions are funny |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | they say it would take about 1 min to go like 10 blocks in downtown Toronto |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | yeah RIGHT |
| [21:10:00] | kormoc: | at 3 am! |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | you forget the like 10 traffic lights, retards |
| [21:10:00] | kormoc: | google encourages speeding and running of lights. |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | at 3am, maybe. |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | if you are lucky |
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| [21:13:00] | Baylink: | maptuit RealTraffic, if they cover your market. |
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| [21:33:00] | emilylove: | any more ideas anyone :-D |
| [21:34:00] | rah: | anyone here using dvb-s |
| [21:34:00] | rah: | ? |
| [21:39:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: heh |
| [21:39:00] | CyberKnet: | little bit late, but heh anyway |
| [21:46:00] | pete_: | hey guys, is anyone using an irblaster with multiple Starchoice 305/315 receivers (other models are compat)? I'm looking for an lirc file with conf for alternate remote codes |
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| [21:51:00] | Beirdo: | heh? |
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| [21:58:00] | iznogood: | pete_: you'd have to google for them |
| [21:59:00] | pete_: | iznogood : I did, many a time.. only to see people saying "hey, I got this and this to work, and multiple Starchoice receivers! |
| [21:59:00] | pete_: | bleh |
| [21:59:00] | pete_: | POST THE CODES :) |
| [22:00:00] | iznogood: | pete_: Then try using irrecord, and post them! |
| [22:00:00] | pete_: | you need a receiver for that |
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| [22:14:00] | rsdvd: | Hi...is there anyone in tonight that knows anthing about DVB-T (Nota-T)cards and how to install them? |
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| [22:18:00] | CyberKnet: | rsdvd: hmm... seems not yet =) |
| [22:20:00] | rsdvd: | LOL.....CyberKnet.......thought I might be lucky......seesm still not |
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| [22:35:00] | emilylove: | aaaaaargh |
| [22:36:00] | kormoc: | no go? |
| [22:36:00] | emilylove: | I think I have a perms issue on /dev/cdrom or something... |
| [22:36:00] | emilylove: | kscd won't eject the cd or detect that there is one in there |
| [22:36:00] | emilylove: | know anything about that? |
| [22:37:00] | kormoc: | not really, do a ls -l /dev/cdrom and see what it says? |
| [22:37:00] | emilylove: | root root |
| [22:37:00] | emilylove: | so I should chown mythtv? |
| [22:38:00] | kormoc: | chmod a+r /dev/cdrom would be better |
| [22:38:00] | emilylove: | still no disk |
| [22:38:00] | emilylove: | ah this is annoying |
| [22:38:00] | kormoc: | dmesg says anything? |
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| [22:39:00] | emilylove: | the drive appears confused |
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| [22:39:00] | emilylove: | cdrom: this dist doesn't have any trackes I recognize! |
| [22:40:00] | emilylove: | lots of hdg: cdrom_pc_intr: the drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) |
| [22:40:00] | kormoc: | odd |
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| [22:42:00] | emilylove: | when I do mount mount: no medium found |
| [22:42:00] | emilylove: | i'm rebooting |
| [22:42:00] | bhursey: | have you tried another cd? |
| [22:42:00] | kormoc: | you can't mount audio cd's |
| [22:43:00] | bhursey: | and that |
| [22:43:00] | emilylove: | oh... |
| [22:43:00] | emilylove: | well, I stick another cd in that wasn't audio and tried to mount it anyway and it didn't work either |
| [22:43:00] | kormoc: | icky |
| [22:43:00] | bhursey: | try mount -f /dev/cdrom |
| [22:43:00] | bhursey: | or is it -F |
| [22:44:00] | bhursey: | probibly wont work though but it is worth a try. |
| [22:44:00] | bhursey: | ohh and hay kormoc =D |
| [22:44:00] | bhursey: | hey |
| [22:44:00] | kormoc: | hihi |
| [22:44:00] | emilylove: | its disabling irq 9 at bootup |
| [22:44:00] | emilylove: | something also about ide_intr |
| [22:44:00] | emilylove: | i'm guessing an irq conflict? but with a cdrom? |
| [22:45:00] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [22:45:00] | bhursey: | hummmm maby kernel config is wrong |
| [22:45:00] | kormoc: | this is a bit outside of my knowledge. |
| [22:45:00] | bhursey: | I had a problem with one of my hard drives I got ide_intr |
| [22:45:00] | emilylove: | do you ever get to a point with linux where things just friggin work? |
| [22:45:00] | bhursey: | i added some support inlem. the kernel and it fixed my prob |
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| [22:45:00] | bhursey: | yes |
| [22:46:00] | bhursey: | every thing on my laptop worked using genkernel with gentoo |
| [22:46:00] | bhursey: | i still tweeked i think im compulsive |
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| [22:46:00] | iznogood: | emilylove: please do a #dmesg |grep hd |
| [22:47:00] | iznogood: | and see which device is recognised as your cdrom drive |
| [22:48:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, 95% of the time, once it's up, it's up for good, it's all the getting it to that point. |
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| [22:50:00] | emilylove: | hdg |
| [22:50:00] | iznogood: | ah ok |
| [22:50:00] | iznogood: | then do #ls -l /dev/cdrom |
| [22:51:00] | emilylove: | rwxrwxrwx |
| [22:51:00] | iznogood: | it should look at the end like : cdrom -> hdg |
| [22:51:00] | emilylove: | root root |
| [22:51:00] | emilylove: | yup thats at the end of it |
| [22:51:00] | iznogood: | ok |
| [22:51:00] | iznogood: | no try, put in a datacd |
| [22:52:00] | iznogood: | and try, (maybe as root), #mount /dev/cdrom /mnt |
| [22:52:00] | Kronuz: | hey, does mythtv has a bot for cvs commits? |
| [22:52:00] | Kronuz: | (in the IRC) |
| [22:52:00] | kormoc: | no? |
| [22:53:00] | emilylove: | mount: no medium found |
| [22:53:00] | kormoc: | that'd be sorta annoying... |
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| [22:53:00] | Kronuz: | yeah, probably |
| [22:53:00] | kormoc: | just sign up for the mailing list. |
| [22:53:00] | iznogood: | and there is an "working" data cd in the drive? |
| [22:54:00] | emilylove: | iz — yes |
| [22:54:00] | emilylove: | it works in my windows box |
| [22:55:00] | iznogood: | hmm |
| [22:55:00] | iznogood: | then try this: # dmesg |grep SCSI |
| [22:55:00] | TimmyJ: | anyone know of a program for ivtv drivers suited towards watching TV on your desktop (ability to resize, etc.) yet still be able to change channels |
| [22:55:00] | iznogood: | and check if you see the cdrom drive claimed as scdX |
| [22:55:00] | emilylove: | nothing came up |
| [22:56:00] | ** iznogood thinks ** | |
| [22:58:00] | emilylove: | <-- tears at her hair in frustration |
| [22:58:00] | iznogood: | please do #dmesg |
| [22:58:00] | iznogood: | and look at the last lines |
| [22:58:00] | iznogood: | do you see error output? |
| [22:59:00] | iznogood: | If not, try /var/log/syslog for errors on hdg. |
| [22:59:00] | emilylove: | hdg: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) |
| [23:00:00] | iznogood: | you did install your system with this cdrom-drive? |
| [23:00:00] | emilylove: | iz — yes |
| [23:00:00] | emilylove: | its a burner if that means anything |
| [23:01:00] | emilylove: | in fact it has been working fine and just stopped about an hour ago for no reason that I can tell |
| [23:01:00] | iznogood: | And you did try windows again, after it stopped working? |
| [23:02:00] | iznogood: | (Sorry for the stupid questions, I work @ an ISP helpdesk, it's a habit!) |
| [23:04:00] | emilylove: | ha ha its cool yes and the cd works in windows... |
| [23:04:00] | emilylove: | but NO cd works in the linux box... |
| [23:04:00] | emilylove: | this all started when myth wouldn't use freedb with my audio cds |
| [23:04:00] | iznogood: | you have started mythtv currently? |
| [23:06:00] | emilylove: | its not running now but yes, I hav started it |
| [23:07:00] | emilylove: | i was just trying to get the cd's to start detecting in kscd |
| [23:07:00] | emilylove: | I'm gonna shutdown and replace the ide cable..maybe its bad. |
| [23:07:00] | iznogood: | It's possible, but then again it also wouldn't work in windows |
| [23:08:00] | iznogood: | But I've never seen a drive mallfunction which wasn't broken in linux |
| [23:09:00] | emilylove: | oh no no I guess you misunderstood |
| [23:09:00] | emilylove: | I have two machines in here |
| [23:09:00] | emilylove: | one with windows, one with linux |
| [23:09:00] | emilylove: | I've swapped teh cd between the two |
| [23:09:00] | hadees: | emilylove, so mabey your cd drive in your linux machine is either broken |
| [23:10:00] | hadees: | or doesn't have the right driver |
| [23:10:00] | iznogood: | aaah |
| [23:10:00] | emilylove: | its possible, but the cd drive worked in windows just 4 days ago... |
| [23:10:00] | hadees: | emilylove, what is distro are you using? you are likely to find more help on this area in their channel |
| [23:11:00] | hadees: | just because this is a more general problem with your CD drive |
| [23:11:00] | iznogood: | Then I think there can be something wrong with the drive |
| [23:11:00] | hadees: | and likely doesn't have anything to do with mythtv |
| [23:11:00] | iznogood: | hadees: the drive gets detected by the ide lyaer |
| [23:11:00] | iznogood: | layer |
| [23:11:00] | iznogood: | no it hasn't |
| [23:11:00] | iznogood: | this is a bit off topic here |
| [23:11:00] | hadees: | emilylove, and you can't mount it |
| [23:12:00] | hadees: | iznogood, well even besides the off topic point, the people in this channel aren't experts with every distro |
| [23:12:00] | hadees: | so like #redhat would know more about redhat then most people in here |
| [23:12:00] | hadees: | etc |
| [23:12:00] | iznogood: | yes true |
| [23:12:00] | emilylove: | wow! i replaced the cable..no irq 9 error at startup...thats an improvement |
| [23:13:00] | hadees: | guess my work here is done |
| [23:13:00] | iznogood: | however, ide problems, are linux in general |
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| [23:13:00] | xris: | iznogood: as long as there aren't pending mythtv-related questions, we don't really mind off-topic here. |
| [23:13:00] | hadees: | iznogood, true but every distro has diffrent kerenel patches that can cause problems |
| [23:13:00] | xris: | in fact, Beirdo and I are known to go wildly off-topic quite often about brewing, cooking, drinking, etc. |
| [23:13:00] | hadees: | and libs diffrent places |
| [23:14:00] | iznogood: | xris: I didn't mind either, I was just making clear to hadees it hadn't anything to do with mythtv |
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| [23:14:00] | hadees: | hehe i think we are all clear on that |
| [23:15:00] | xris: | speaking of off-topic, time for espresso. |
| [23:15:00] | hadees: | i just though emilylove might get more and better help in anohter channel |
| [23:15:00] | iznogood: | hadees: not in the ide part, that has stabilized over so many years now in the main kernel |
| [23:15:00] | iznogood: | that could be true |
| [23:15:00] | iznogood: | but finding the right channel is hard, and I had the time :) |
| [23:15:00] | ** KarlosII curses freaking storm ** | |
| [23:15:00] | hadees: | um... |
| [23:16:00] | hadees: | ok |
| [23:16:00] | ** KarlosII it took out my power for a couple moments ** | |
| [23:16:00] | ** KarlosII says and just 20 minutes ago it was sunny ** | |
| [23:16:00] | hadees: | that hardly seems like an emotion |
| [23:16:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, workin now? |
| [23:17:00] | emilylove: | heh well im restarting again..did something stupid I'm not gonna repeat in public *blushes* |
| [23:17:00] | emilylove: | well see in a minute if it worked |
| [23:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, hi hi |
| [23:17:00] | kormoc: | :P |
| [23:18:00] | kormoc: | hihi SlicerDicer-! |
| [23:18:00] | kormoc: | waz up? |
| [23:18:00] | hadees: | how many of you guys have friends who keep pestering you to make them a mythtv box |
| [23:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | pissing with transcoding dvds now |
| [23:18:00] | hadees: | so annoying |
| [23:18:00] | kormoc: | yeah? |
| [23:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | aye |
| [23:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hadees, nobody why? |
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| [23:18:00] | emilylove: | "disabling IRQ #9" at startup again |
| [23:19:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, cat /proc/interrupts and see what it says? |
| [23:19:00] | ** kormoc has acpi and sound blaster and usb on irc 9 ** | |
| [23:19:00] | hadees: | SlicerDicer-, i don't know because it happens to me all the time, and these are people who would need me to keep their boxs fixed and updated |
| [23:19:00] | hadees: | an't going to happen |
| [23:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh hey kormoc I am back to 100% gentoo |
| [23:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I figured my sound and all that out |
| [23:20:00] | iznogood: | emilylove: do you have a bootable cd? |
| [23:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hadees, dont tell them you know computers |
| [23:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | act oblivious |
| [23:20:00] | iznogood: | Just to try, if the cdrom *is* working, but just ain't in your linux distro. |
| [23:20:00] | kormoc: | yay! |
| [23:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | be like wha? internet explorer whats that |
| [23:20:00] | kormoc: | I'm that way SlicerDicer- :P |
| [23:20:00] | emilylove: | ooo good idea izno..ya I have several..im assuming you want me to try booting from it and see if it works? |
| [23:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol kormoc |
| [23:20:00] | kormoc: | slePP, wha? windows? what's that? :P |
| [23:20:00] | hadees: | SlicerDicer-, i do that around girls all the time, this however is alittle diffrent because they are watching TV with me on MythTV |
| [23:20:00] | iznogood: | emilylove: yes |
| [23:21:00] | kormoc: | hadees, you paid me to set it up for ya :P |
| [23:21:00] | kormoc: | hadees, so send payment to paypal@kormoc.com ... :P |
| [23:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hadees, say a friend did it for you |
| [23:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | just dont ever tweek your system in front of them if it fails to work dont fix it in front of them say ohh damn... errrm HELP!!!!! |
| [23:22:00] | hadees: | SlicerDicer-, i don't know how well that is going to work, i mean i am a professional programmer and i have 7 computers in amy apt |
| [23:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and run around and light a 1 dollar bill on fire and say damn it I should have rented that movie |
| [23:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kill 2 birds with 1 stone |
| [23:22:00] | KarlosII: | severe thunderstorm and tornado wanrning for edmonton issued |
| [23:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | fix mythtv and ditch the work |
| [23:22:00] | hadees: | SlicerDicer-, you got some intresting ideas |
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| [23:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hadees, haha |
| [23:23:00] | rben: | I'm having an odd problem. My I |
| [23:23:00] | emilylove: | now when mount it sais it's already mounted |
| [23:23:00] | rben: | My remote works sometimes |
| [23:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hadees, yah I hear that I got a mess of computator in my place it looks like mission control or some shit |
| [23:23:00] | iznogood: | rben: using lirc? |
| [23:23:00] | rben: | for some reason, I have to start the lirc by runing the script and then restart the front end for it to work |
| [23:23:00] | rben: | yeah |
| [23:23:00] | hadees: | SlicerDicer-, tell me about it, i really want to move to rack computers to save space |
| [23:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | rben, do you use comcast digital cable? |
| [23:24:00] | rben: | yes |
| [23:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what is the model number of your box |
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| [23:24:00] | rben: | right now I'm just hooked to the cable, not using the box |
| [23:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hadees, haha I am not that worried about space |
| [23:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | rben, why not use the box |
| [23:24:00] | ** KarlosII notes a weather alert for edmonton and area of severe thunderstorms and tornado warning in effect as of now. ** | |
| [23:24:00] | rben: | plan on doing that once I get the irblaster |
| [23:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | umm |
| [23:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | rs232 is much better |
| [23:24:00] | hadees: | SlicerDicer-, well its not orginized either, and i have enough problems cleaning up after my dog |
| [23:24:00] | emilylove: | how can I tell what a drive is mounted to? |
| [23:25:00] | rben: | huh, just a regular rs232? |
| [23:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | if you have the right model box rben |
| [23:25:00] | iznogood: | just type #mount |
| [23:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah 9pin male to 9pin female |
| [23:25:00] | rben: | what model? |
| [23:25:00] | hadees: | fstab |
| [23:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dct 2244 IIRC rben |
| [23:25:00] | emilylove: | oh its busy |
| [23:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats what I have |
| [23:25:00] | emilylove: | its not mounted |
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| [23:25:00] | emilylove: | what in the world |
| [23:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hadees, I have no living room |
| [23:25:00] | rben: | letme check, brb |
| [23:25:00] | iznogood: | emilylove: did booting from cd work? |
| [23:25:00] | hadees: | SlicerDicer-, you live in a studio? |
| [23:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no.... |
| [23:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://home.comcast.net/~slicerdicer/entiredesk.jpg |
| [23:26:00] | flexy: | myth, dvb, subtitles in the stream, how to get subtitles working? |
| [23:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have my table covered with computers |
| [23:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | although thats the old place I lived at hadees |
| [23:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I just recently moved |
| [23:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but that will giv eyou a idea |
| [23:26:00] | emilylove: | @#$#@%^^%&#$%@##$%@#$^%$%$%^@$!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| [23:26:00] | emilylove: | now it won't even start! |
| [23:26:00] | hadees: | SlicerDicer-, do you have 3 heads and 6 arms? |
| [23:26:00] | emilylove: | its getting worse all the time |
| [23:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yes! |
| [23:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [23:27:00] | hadees: | SlicerDicer-, or ever hear of a kvm switch |
| [23:27:00] | emilylove: | bios beeps |
| [23:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hadees, what fun is that |
| [23:27:00] | iznogood: | emilylove: this means something is really worng |
| [23:27:00] | hadees: | emilylove, reset the bios |
| [23:27:00] | emilylove: | i know and its been working fine..I don't get it |
| [23:27:00] | iznogood: | try pushen every connector, and card/ memory slot |
| [23:27:00] | emilylove: | reset it? |
| [23:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hadees, its not hard to use the computers and the nice thing is I dont have to switch like that |
| [23:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | that does not show my myth setup either |
| [23:28:00] | emilylove: | long short short? |
| [23:28:00] | hadees: | SlicerDicer-, i don't know man, kvm is pretty freaking simple |
| [23:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | never! |
| [23:28:00] | iznogood: | amibios? |
| [23:28:00] | emilylove: | video failure!?????????? |
| [23:28:00] | rben: | SlicerDicer-: I got a DCT 2244 |
| [23:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://home.comcast.net/~slicerdicer/mythfront.jpg.jpg dedicated cablebox to mythtv on the bottom haha |
| [23:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | rben, use rs232 |
| [23:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | much better than irblaster |
| [23:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | in the mythtv source there is a controller for it |
| [23:29:00] | rben: | ok, will do. Got a link on instructions? |
| [23:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | sec |
| [23:29:00] | iznogood: | emilylove: that would be award, award beeps don't mean much beside that it is'nt working |
| [23:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | there is no instructions really but I can tell you how to do it |
| [23:29:00] | hadees: | SlicerDicer-, http://www.atechfabrication.com/products/atech_3000.htm |
| [23:29:00] | iznogood: | try pushing alle removable items in place |
| [23:29:00] | hadees: | SlicerDicer-, thats my case |
| [23:29:00] | rben: | ok, how do I do it? |
| [23:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | nice hadees |
| [23:30:00] | rben: | I'll take notes |
| [23:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | brb rben |
| [23:30:00] | hadees: | SlicerDicer-, look at their other cases, http://www.atechfabrication.com/HTPC_cases.htm |
| [23:30:00] | hadees: | fsck sweet |
| [23:30:00] | hadees: | best htpc cases on the market |
| [23:31:00] | flexy: | myth, dvb-s ff with CI, can that cards card interface be used to decrypt dvb-t budget cards stream? |
| [23:32:00] | emilylove: | oh thankx iz...I was gonna say I have an fx5700 in there...I can't afford a new one |
| [23:33:00] | kormoc: | still under warrentee I'd wager |
| [23:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok rben still here? |
| [23:33:00] | emilylove: | its been working fine until today |
| [23:33:00] | emilylove: | i don't get this |
| [23:33:00] | kormoc: | how's the voltages? |
| [23:34:00] | kormoc: | you can check that in the bios under system health iirc. |
| [23:34:00] | iznogood: | computers work in mysterious ways ;) |
| [23:34:00] | rben: | Im here |
| [23:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | rben, go to mythtv.org grab the mythtv sourcecode from downloads you will need it |
| [23:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | once you have it extract it |
| [23:34:00] | rben: | think I have it already on Knoppmyth, but no problem to get it if not |
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| [23:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | you have to have the source |
| [23:35:00] | rben: | k |
| [23:35:00] | rben: | I'v complied stuff from source before |
| [23:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh its nothing major to compile this peice |
| [23:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its very simple |
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| [23:36:00] | rben: | ok, got the tarballs and diffs |
| [23:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ok just extract mythtv source then go into that directory run a ./configure |
| [23:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | then cd contrib/dct-channel |
| [23:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | once you are in dct-channel folder you can run make and you should have a executable called channel |
| [23:38:00] | rben: | k |
| [23:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | then you can run that executable for testing to find out what serial port you are using for the rs232 |
| [23:39:00] | rben: | okay |
| [23:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | by running './channel --port /dev/ttyS*' |
| [23:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | err |
| [23:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | './channel --port /dev/ttyS* 50' and if it changes to channel 50 its correct |
| [23:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | otherwise it will say refused |
| [23:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | once you find the channel |
| [23:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | err port argh |
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| [23:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | then you can modify the source to say that /dev/ttyS* is for it |
| [23:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so it makes it rather simple |
| [23:41:00] | rben: | okay sounds easy enough |
| [23:41:00] | rben: | couldn't I just pass the port as argument as well? |
| [23:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah |
| [23:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but it does not work correctly with mythfrontend |
| [23:42:00] | rben: | ah, okay |
| [23:42:00] | kormoc: | you can use udev to make it /dev/blahblah :P |
| [23:42:00] | rben: | udev? |
| [23:42:00] | kormoc: | yeah, the 'new' devfs |
| [23:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | rben, line 230 in channel.c |
| [23:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | just modify that |
| [23:43:00] | rben: | okay, np |
| [23:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | char *port = "/dev/ttyS0"; |
| [23:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats what it says default |
| [23:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | just modify it to /dev/ttyS1 or whatever you n eed |
| [23:43:00] | rben: | only got the one serial port, so shouldn't be too hard |
| [23:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | then you will want to copy that folder to /usr/bin/dct-channel or at least thats what I did and then you can direct mythtv to use the external tuner there |
| [23:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its pretty cut and dry |
| [23:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | much more simple than lirc anyday |
| [23:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dont you agree? |
| [23:44:00] | rben: | true, but still need to get the remote to work that controls the front end |
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| [23:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | that is simple enough |
| [23:45:00] | rben: | But you just saved me a bunch of time |
| [23:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | rben, yeah its awesome with the rs232 |
| [23:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | if your cablebox is off for some reason it will turn it on |
| [23:45:00] | rben: | what is wierd is that I thought I had all the lirc stuff set up for the remote to work, and irw works |
| [23:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | all kinda stuff |
| [23:45:00] | rben: | that's really cool |
| [23:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yep |
| [23:46:00] | rben: | hope to move the tvbox out to livingroom tonight |
| [23:46:00] | rben: | make my wife happy |
| [23:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hehe |
| [23:46:00] | rben: | then going to set up front end back here in office |
| [23:46:00] | rben: | using wireless between the two |
| [23:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | rben, I got a dedicated box for mythtv |
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| [23:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it works great |
| [23:46:00] | rben: | we'll have 2 when I'm done |
| [23:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | covered the ir sensor with ducttape |
| [23:46:00] | rben: | one for backend and livingroom and one for office frontend |
| [23:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I run 2 cableboxes in my living room one for watching tv one for recording with mythtv |
| [23:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so they are independent |
| [23:47:00] | rben: | that's neat |
| [23:47:00] | rben: | got 2 tuners on my box |
| [23:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | if I want to watch say dog eat dog while shit on a stick records I can do that |
| [23:47:00] | rben: | so one will be hooked up to straight cable and one ot digital box |
| [23:48:00] | rben: | finally got PVR-350 tvout working |
| [23:48:00] | rben: | thanks to the knoppmythwiki |
| [23:49:00] | emilylove: | irq 9: nobody cared! |
| [23:49:00] | emilylove: | handlers: |
| [23:49:00] | emilylove: | blahblah |
| [23:49:00] | emilylove: | disabpling irq 9 |
| [23:49:00] | emilylove: | wha in th eworld does that mean? |
| [23:50:00] | iznogood: | emilylove: I presume it isn't beeping anymore? |
| [23:50:00] | emilylove: | no that correct |
| [23:50:00] | emilylove: | no idea why it was |
| [23:50:00] | rben: | Ok, so here's what is wierd. I have lirc set up so that it's started in the rc5.d init directory, but once it boots, I sometimes have to restart it and then restart the frontend before the remote works |
| [23:50:00] | emilylove: | i wonder if it overheated or something. I left it off for a few minutes and it came right back |
| [23:50:00] | iznogood: | I'm not sure irq 9 has something to do with your ide controller, or does it? |
| [23:51:00] | emilylove: | int he handlers it said ide something or other |
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| [23:51:00] | emilylove: | i didn't have time to type it |
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| [23:51:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, did you check the voltages in the bios? |
| [23:51:00] | emilylove: | it was on bootup and it was a bunch of seeminly meaningless numbers |
| [23:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | rben, let me know if you have problems once you get your rs232 |
| [23:51:00] | emilylove: | kormoc the voltages? its autodetect... |
| [23:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | rben, just grab one from radioshack too btw |
| [23:51:00] | rben: | SlicerDicer-: I will |
| [23:51:00] | emilylove: | and i have to admit it worked fine for a long time with windows on it |
| [23:51:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, no, the output voltages of the power supply, i.e. making sure it's still good. |
| [23:51:00] | emilylove: | oh thats a good idea...i can do tat |
| [23:51:00] | kormoc: | :) |
| [23:52:00] | rben: | might have a cable in a box around here somewhere |
| [23:52:00] | rben: | got 20 years of spare parts |
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| [23:53:00] | emilylove: | the cd is loading ok to a pint because its showing up on the kde desktop |
| [23:53:00] | emilylove: | when i double click it it says "already mounted or busy" |
| [23:53:00] | iznogood: | emilylove: at this point I would start interchanging hardware between 2 computers |
| [23:53:00] | iznogood: | 1 of them working off course |
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| [23:54:00] | emilylove: | well i can stick a new drive in but I really don't think that will solve it |
| [23:54:00] | kormoc: | if it doesn't, then it's not the drive, easy way to check |
| [23:55:00] | emilylove: | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| [23:55:00] | emilylove: | stupid BEEPING again |
| [23:55:00] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [23:55:00] | kormoc: | voltages okay? |
| [23:55:00] | emilylove: | ive got a brand spanking new ps sitting here..im gonna just swap them |
| [23:55:00] | emilylove: | brb |
| [23:56:00] | ** kormoc waves ** | |
| [23:56:00] | kormoc: | g'luck! |
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