| Saturday, June 25th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | Gozar: | Woohooo. It's working. It's Alive :-) |
| [00:01:00] | CyberKnet: | Gozar: awexome |
| [00:01:00] | stoffel: | Gozar: great. what fixed it? |
| [00:02:00] | kormoc: | Johnny_Quest, what card? |
| [00:02:00] | CyberKnet: | alritey folks. |
| [00:02:00] | CyberKnet: | it's quitt'n time |
| [00:02:00] | CyberKnet: | adios |
| [00:02:00] | ** kormoc waves ** | |
| [00:02:00] | splat1 is now known as splAt1 | |
| [00:02:00] | kormoc: | have fun! |
| [00:02:00] | Gozar: | Donny, just typed the channel number everywere in mythtv-setup! |
| [00:03:00] | Johnny_Quest: | geforce mx2 |
| [00:03:00] | Johnny_Quest: | geforce2 mx.. |
| [00:03:00] | kormoc: | Johnny_Quest, drivers should work fine, if your using the nvidia ones |
| [00:03:00] | Johnny_Quest: | i just installed them |
| [00:03:00] | Johnny_Quest: | im gonna reboot |
| [00:03:00] | Johnny_Quest: | but i asumed it would have something better than this display... |
| [00:03:00] | kormoc: | try going to a older version, say 69xx one too, if that doesn't help |
| [00:03:00] | stoffel: | Gozar: afaik it should go in the freqid field |
| [00:03:00] | Johnny_Quest: | its really blurry |
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| [00:04:00] | Gozar: | stoffel: I thyed that a couble of times. with no changes! |
| [00:05:00] | splAt1 is now known as splat1 | |
| [00:09:00] | Gozar: | How do I fix the epg It's 4 houres and 30 minutes behind! |
| [00:14:00] | kormoc: | Gozar, set your clock correctly? |
| [00:22:00] | Gozar: | kormoc: It is set correctley. both local time anf GMT! |
| [00:23:00] | jonK: | i can't reboot :( |
| [00:23:00] | jonK: | i can't do anything |
| [00:23:00] | jonK: | it's very sad |
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| [00:25:00] | jonK: | uchar == unicode character? |
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| [00:34:00] | cortezdapimp: | good afternoon |
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| [00:39:00] | jonK: | hello |
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| [00:53:00] | monsoon: | hey folks |
| [00:53:00] | monsoon: | wondering if anyone could tell me if this card is hardware, or software based? ATI TV WONDER PRO PCI Tuner Card Model: 100–703138 |
| [00:54:00] | monsoon: | sorry can anyone read this? |
| [00:55:00] | jonK: | hang on |
| [00:55:00] | monsoon: | k thx jonK |
| [00:55:00] | jonK: | almost certainl;y software, but checking for the hell of it |
| [00:55:00] | jonK: | at least if you mean for mpeg encode/decode |
| [00:55:00] | monsoon: | yah for 65 bucks at bestbuy... :/ |
| [00:56:00] | monsoon: | I figured it was probably software also |
| [00:56:00] | monsoon: | unfortunatley that's all I can afford locally |
| [00:56:00] | jonK: | and i don't think the atiw tv donder cards work in mythtv anyway |
| [00:56:00] | monsoon: | ohh hmm :/ |
| [00:58:00] | jonK: | nvm it's the all-in-wonder carders that will not work with mythtv |
| [00:58:00] | monsoon: | uggh I think I may have to go software anyways... |
| [00:58:00] | monsoon: | ok |
| [00:58:00] | jonK: | ATI's spec for the card do not mention hw encoder |
| [00:59:00] | monsoon: | oh I see ok |
| [00:59:00] | monsoon: | seems like even online the cheapest hw card will be 80 usd up |
| [01:00:00] | jonK: | I'd wait and save for the pvr 500 then |
| [01:00:00] | jonK: | for two tuners, you can't beat the price |
| [01:01:00] | crash-x: | does someone know whether there are somwhere docs on how to write a mythtv plugin? |
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| [01:02:00] | Gozar: | Okay. Secund problem. No sound at all. My tv card is connected to my sound card through a cable. (mplayer can produce sound with the tv card) |
| [01:03:00] | cortezdapimp: | i got lirc working for about 5 minutes, but now nothing :( |
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| [01:07:00] | cortezdapimp: | quick question – anyone know which device lircd needs to use for a pvr150? |
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| [01:09:00] | jonK: | cortez, did you have it workgin, reboot and then not working? |
| [01:10:00] | cortezdapimp: | it was working for 5 minutes, i went to get a drink of water, then it stopped working |
| [01:10:00] | cortezdapimp: | i rebooted and fcuked around for like an hour and now when i run irw it gets connect: connection refused |
| [01:10:00] | Christopher: | cortezdapimp: how's your pvr doin??? I finally got mine playing video =D |
| [01:10:00] | cortezdapimp: | i think lirc isnt connecting to the right device |
| [01:10:00] | jonK: | well, then tell it what device to connect to |
| [01:11:00] | cortezdapimp: | its running great from composite. i dont need the tuner |
| [01:11:00] | cortezdapimp: | yes jonk, so i am trying to figure out which device it needs |
| [01:11:00] | jonK: | well, what devices do you have in /dev/lirc* |
| [01:11:00] | cortezdapimp: | thats why i asked which device lircd needs to use for a pvr 150 :) |
| [01:11:00] | jonK: | lirc0? |
| [01:12:00] | jonK: | and using the i2c_lirc module? |
| [01:12:00] | cortezdapimp: | i ahve /dev/lirc /dev/lircd /dev/lircm |
| [01:12:00] | cortezdapimp: | i forget how to list the modules? |
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| [01:12:00] | jonK: | lsmod |
| [01:13:00] | Christopher: | cortezdapimp: I have the pvr-500mce running. It's 2 pvr-150s... Maybe I can help. |
| [01:13:00] | cortezdapimp: | lirc_i2c is loaded |
| [01:13:00] | jonK: | he's talking about the remote |
| [01:13:00] | jonK: | and is an lircd process running? |
| [01:13:00] | Christopher: | cortezdapimp: what's your dmesg for init.ivtv say? |
| [01:13:00] | cortezdapimp: | not anymore. |
| [01:13:00] | cortezdapimp: | so when i run lircd i should do lircd /dev/lirc ? |
| [01:14:00] | jonK: | run it with lirc dev first, then lircd, second |
| [01:14:00] | jonK: | not sure which, but it wont be lircm |
| [01:14:00] | jonK: | that's a differnt deal for using the remote like a mouuse |
| [01:14:00] | jonK: | do lircd --device=/dev/lirc |
| [01:14:00] | cortezdapimp: | ok |
| [01:14:00] | jonK: | cristopher this is not an ivtv issue |
| [01:15:00] | cortezdapimp: | bah i'm gonna have to try stuff later, my sister is watching buffy |
| [01:15:00] | jonK: | if that does not work, kill the process and run it again with /dev/lircd instead |
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| [01:16:00] | cortezdapimp: | word |
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| [01:16:00] | cortezdapimp: | any other ideas? i want to try them all at once. |
| [01:16:00] | Christopher: | jonk: shouldn't dmesg report that ivtv controls the i2c for the lirc...? |
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| [01:16:00] | cortezdapimp: | it does give an i2c attach |
| [01:16:00] | cortezdapimp: | but nothing about lirc. |
| [01:17:00] | jonK: | no, but lirc_i2c will have info in dmesg, but not part of the ivtv init |
| [01:17:00] | cortezdapimp: | except lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61 |
| [01:17:00] | cortezdapimp: | so maybe i have to modprobe lirc_i2c? |
| [01:18:00] | jonK: | does lsmod tell you it's running already? |
| [01:18:00] | jonK: | lsmod | grep lirc |
| [01:18:00] | cortezdapimp: | yes |
| [01:18:00] | jonK: | then you shoudl be fine, that's the module |
| [01:18:00] | cortezdapimp: | k |
| [01:18:00] | jonK: | but does ps -ef | grep lirc |
| [01:18:00] | jonK: | giv you anything |
| [01:19:00] | cortezdapimp: | yea the lircd --device=/dev/lirc we ran just now |
| [01:19:00] | cortezdapimp: | i'm ssh'ed into the box, so irw doesn't work |
| [01:19:00] | cortezdapimp: | o/w id try that |
| [01:19:00] | jonK: | or |
| [01:19:00] | jonK: | ow |
| [01:19:00] | jonK: | err |
| [01:19:00] | jonK: | oh |
| [01:19:00] | jonK: | finally |
| [01:19:00] | jonK: | you can still run irw from the shell |
| [01:19:00] | cortezdapimp: | my main problem was that no matter what lircd.conf i used, irw didn't give any output except for the occasional 5 or 6 |
| [01:20:00] | jonK: | then go point remote at reciever and hit buttons |
| [01:20:00] | cortezdapimp: | from ssh, it just quits |
| [01:20:00] | jonK: | then theres a problem |
| [01:20:00] | cortezdapimp: | k |
| [01:20:00] | jonK: | kill the lirc process and run it again using lircd |
| [01:21:00] | cortezdapimp: | in a local xterm it runs and doesn't give any output... why would it do that there and quit in the shell |
| [01:21:00] | jonK: | i've never had a problem running irw from an ssh shell |
| [01:21:00] | jonK: | and getting output |
| [01:21:00] | cortezdapimp: | ok its running now with /dev/lircd |
| [01:21:00] | cortezdapimp: | but no output |
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| [01:22:00] | jonK: | then i would think the lircd.conf file is the next thing to check |
| [01:22:00] | jonK: | but, |
| [01:22:00] | cortezdapimp: | i uninstalled lirc and reinstalled it from apt, so i have the newest i believe |
| [01:22:00] | Christopher: | I dunno if this helps, but do you have to add the lirc chip modules to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6? I had to add my tda9887 there... but if like jonk said, the ivtv int doesn't have anything to do with lirc... then it probably won't matter. |
| [01:22:00] | cortezdapimp: | 0.7.1 or something |
| [01:22:00] | cortezdapimp: | well the modules are running |
| [01:22:00] | jonK: | if you reinstalled from apt you may have hosed your lircd.conf file |
| [01:22:00] | cortezdapimp: | so i don't think thats it. |
| [01:22:00] | cortezdapimp: | right so i pasted a new one |
| [01:23:00] | jonK: | using what? |
| [01:23:00] | cortezdapimp: | a couple online ones |
| [01:23:00] | jonK: | pasted from windows? |
| [01:23:00] | cortezdapimp: | os x |
| [01:23:00] | cortezdapimp: | in a ssh |
| [01:23:00] | cortezdapimp: | er terminal |
| [01:23:00] | jonK: | ok... i had problems once pasting an lircd.conf from windows |
| [01:24:00] | jonK: | had some embedded line feeds hosing it up |
| [01:24:00] | cortezdapimp: | and usually that converts the line endings properly |
| [01:24:00] | jonK: | try this |
| [01:24:00] | jonK: | kill the lirc process |
| [01:24:00] | jonK: | run it again with -n |
| [01:24:00] | cortezdapimp: | k |
| [01:24:00] | jonK: | lircd -n --device=... |
| [01:24:00] | jonK: | then in another shell window run irw |
| [01:24:00] | jonK: | make sure it's attaching |
| [01:25:00] | cortezdapimp: | it says lircd(any) ready |
| [01:26:00] | cortezdapimp: | then accepts a new client on /dev/lircd |
| [01:26:00] | cortezdapimp: | but still no output in irw |
| [01:26:00] | jonK: | got to be the conf file |
| [01:26:00] | cortezdapimp: | k |
| [01:26:00] | jonK: | batteries in remote? |
| [01:26:00] | jonK: | not dead? |
| [01:26:00] | cortezdapimp: | i double chekced |
| [01:26:00] | jonK: | thing's plugged in |
| [01:26:00] | jonK: | and not damaged? |
| [01:26:00] | cortezdapimp: | i guess its not damaged, the ir blaster lights up for a second when i plug in |
| [01:26:00] | jonK: | i broke mine and spent 1/2 hour tring to fix before i realized |
| [01:27:00] | cortezdapimp: | well i dont think its broken because before it worked for a bit |
| [01:27:00] | jonK: | pulled jack from the wire |
| [01:27:00] | jonK: | you're fine |
| [01:27:00] | cortezdapimp: | like why would it work for a bit and then stop working |
| [01:27:00] | jonK: | check /var/log/lircd |
| [01:27:00] | jonK: | see what's in there |
| [01:27:00] | jonK: | and that it's not exploded to 2gb for some reason |
| [01:27:00] | cortezdapimp: | i think the apt version puts messages to syslog |
| [01:28:00] | jonK: | i get that problem if I remove the usb hookup for a snapstream firefly |
| [01:29:00] | cortezdapimp: | theres no known conflicts with ati_remote is there |
| [01:29:00] | cortezdapimp: | ? |
| [01:29:00] | jonK: | ? |
| [01:29:00] | cortezdapimp: | cuz i do have that hooked up. i'd like to get this 150 one working so i cna put that upstairs and use it for controlling my airport express |
| [01:30:00] | cortezdapimp: | the remote wonder |
| [01:30:00] | cortezdapimp: | worked super easily |
| [01:30:00] | jonK: | ati_remote uses different module |
| [01:30:00] | cortezdapimp: | yea i know |
| [01:30:00] | cortezdapimp: | just wanted to be sure |
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| [01:32:00] | jonK: | and you could have more than one lircd running i'd suppose, each one attached to a different device for input |
| [01:32:00] | cortezdapimp: | word. |
| [01:33:00] | cortezdapimp: | have you used irrecord before? |
| [01:33:00] | jonK: | no, but was planning to pay with it this weekend, I'd love to get my tivo remote working if possible |
| [01:33:00] | jonK: | best remote design ever |
| [01:33:00] | cortezdapimp: | word |
| [01:34:00] | cortezdapimp: | yea i've used it its pretty good |
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| [01:37:00] | cortezdapimp: | hmm |
| [01:38:00] | cortezdapimp: | when i run irrecord with lircd running it quits out saying no data |
| [01:38:00] | cortezdapimp: | when i run irrecord with lircd not running, it quits out saying could not init hardware |
| [01:43:00] | Gozar: | Any ideas of why mplayer/mencoder can capture/playback audio when mythtv can't? |
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| [01:53:00] | rben: | I'm having remote troubles again. Originally it was because the lirc driver wasn't being started, but I used update-rc.d lirc defaults to install the script, rebooted and it still doesn't work. If I start the lircd daemon by hand, it works fine. |
| [01:55:00] | Ray__: | When installing Knoppmyth is the "Enable DHCP Broadcast" for actually receiving a ip adress or for giving out? I am getting conflicting reports while googling... |
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| [02:09:00] | dant: | Ray__, can't say I've used knoppmyth, but, broadcast is used by DHCP clients looking for a DHCP server |
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| [02:15:00] | Ray__: | For those that are using the PVR-150 what firmware version are you running? |
| [02:16:00] | Christopher: | Ray__: I'm running the version that came on the cd. |
| [02:16:00] | Ray__: | What about IVTV version? |
| [02:16:00] | Christopher: | Ray__> I'm running .3.6q |
| [02:17:00] | Ray__: | Christopher: woa... those just came out.. Thanks! Wasn't sure if starting with the latest ivtv drivers would be a good idea |
| [02:17:00] | Christopher: | http://www.ivtv.tv/ |
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| [02:25:00] | joev: | I get serval errors when starting mythbackend |
| [02:25:00] | joev: | anyone wanna help me get squared away? |
| [02:26:00] | Ray__: | Christopher: Just a side question, but when you installed the firmware for the PVR-150 did you delete the existing .bin files that were in that directory? |
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| [02:27:00] | Christopher: | Ray__: my /lib/modules directory has a symlink from ivtv-fw-enc.bin -> HcwFalcn.rom |
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| [02:28:00] | Christopher: | brb |
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| [02:29:00] | BlurredWe: | I just reinstalled my box (knoppmyth is AWESOME), but while watching a currently recording program, playback jitters, and even stops for a few seconds at a time. How can I diagnose this. DMA is on. |
| [02:31:00] | joev: | could not find dvb tuning parameters for transport 0 |
| [02:31:00] | Gozar: | When I set the frontend to use alsa, it then says it can't open /dev/mixer no sound! How do I correct this? |
| [02:31:00] | joev: | failed to get channel options for channel 2_1 |
| [02:31:00] | joev: | how can I fix this? |
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| [02:37:00] | Ray__: | Christopher: I have tried to create a symlink according to the instructions from http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-index.php?page=PVR150-500Firmware but I keep getting a "file exists error" |
| [02:43:00] | briand: | you cannot create a symlink with the same name as an existing file. |
| [02:43:00] | briand: | thus, a "file exists" error |
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| [02:55:00] | joev: | how do i get dvb_channel and dvb_pids popuklated? |
| [02:55:00] | joev: | shouldn't that happen when i run mythfilldatabase? |
| [02:56:00] | joev: | populated that is |
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| [03:07:00] | _JohnL: | anybody home today? |
| [03:09:00] | Ray__: | Is anyone getting a datadirect.webservices.zap2it.com host not found error? I keep getting that everytime I try to update the chanel listings... |
| [03:09:00] | _JohnL: | let me check.... |
| [03:10:00] | _JohnL: | no im connecting fine |
| [03:10:00] | _JohnL: | you have any firewalls? |
| [03:11:00] | Ray__: | yeah |
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| [03:11:00] | _JohnL: | you make sure that its opened up so that myth can get out? |
| [03:11:00] | _JohnL: | I have firewalls turned off on my mythbox totally, my router handles that |
| [03:13:00] | Ray__: | heh... I had this connected into another switch a few days ago and it went through find... now I have it connected to the main switch which is directly connected to my firewall and nothing is going through on the mythtv box... |
| [03:14:00] | _JohnL: | nothing at all? |
| [03:15:00] | Ray__: | nothing |
| [03:15:00] | Ray__: | well... I will mess with it later I guess... |
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| [03:17:00] | slide23: | Where can i get a list of the lirc drivers? Im using gentoos emerge so im there is not list or anything |
| [03:17:00] | slide23: | I have a Packard Bell "Fast Media Remote Control" |
| [03:17:00] | _JohnL: | Packard bell? |
| [03:18:00] | _JohnL: | damn that is ventage |
| [03:18:00] | slide23: | hehe yea |
| [03:18:00] | _JohnL: | are you using a howto to install? |
| [03:18:00] | slide23: | got it cheap along time ago |
| [03:18:00] | slide23: | trying, yes |
| [03:18:00] | slide23: | but it doesnt say anything about finding out what driver to use |
| [03:20:00] | _JohnL: | have you hit lirc's website to see what they have for download yet? |
| [03:22:00] | slide23: | dont see any driver downloads |
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| [03:22:00] | ** slide23 whimpers ** | |
| [03:22:00] | slide23: | heh |
| [03:23:00] | _JohnL: | i dont know man, im a fedora core guy myself |
| [03:23:00] | _JohnL: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php |
| [03:23:00] | _JohnL: | look in the lirc section there, it might be some help |
| [03:23:00] | joev: | can anyone give some help with dvb channel setup? |
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| [03:23:00] | _JohnL: | dvb is europe right? |
| [03:23:00] | joev: | no |
| [03:24:00] | joev: | kernel 2.6.12 |
| [03:24:00] | _JohnL: | im not sure what dvb is.... |
| [03:24:00] | JonK: | man.... my system really dislikes the pvr500's |
| [03:24:00] | joev: | it are the drivers that will be eplacin v4l |
| [03:24:00] | JonK: | beginning to think i is the board |
| [03:24:00] | JonK: | dvb is a standard for digital video broadcast |
| [03:25:00] | JonK: | used in europe |
| [03:25:00] | _JohnL: | oh |
| [03:25:00] | _JohnL: | im still using v4l |
| [03:25:00] | joev: | and now in the US |
| [03:25:00] | JonK: | just like ntsc is a standard for north american cable |
| [03:25:00] | JonK: | anyone around to help me with an hd3000? |
| [03:26:00] | markw_: | JonK: getting ready to fire one up with dvb and 2.6.12 kernel. |
| [03:26:00] | joev: | I'm working on it jon |
| [03:26:00] | _JohnL: | lol, im such a loser i cant help anyone :/ |
| [03:26:00] | joev: | might be some help |
| [03:26:00] | JonK: | running a 2.6.10 kernel, will i need to upgrade? |
| [03:26:00] | joev: | i have 2 with 2.6.12-rc5 |
| [03:27:00] | joev: | it will make your life easier using the 2.6.12 kernel |
| [03:27:00] | markw_: | pctv hd3000 drivers were in the kernel tree as of 2.6.12 |
| [03:27:00] | joev: | the dvb drivers are now part of the kernel |
| [03:27:00] | markw_: | JonK: what distro? |
| [03:27:00] | JonK: | ubuntu |
| [03:27:00] | JonK: | hoary |
| [03:27:00] | markw_: | argh!!! |
| [03:28:00] | markw_: | no kernel source for 2.6.12 in sid. |
| [03:28:00] | JonK: | ill just get one from kernel.org? |
| [03:28:00] | hadees: | can anyone recommend a good low profile heatsink for a AMD socket A chip? |
| [03:28:00] | markw_: | JonK: do "apt-cache search kernel-source" and see what comes up. |
| [03:28:00] | joev: | kernel.org |
| [03:28:00] | JonK: | sure |
| [03:28:00] | hadees: | it needs to be like 1U |
| [03:28:00] | markw_: | joev: yeah, that's the next choice... |
| [03:28:00] | markw_: | man, the fan on this nvidia 6600 card is loud. |
| [03:29:00] | hadees: | markw_, switch it |
| [03:29:00] | joev: | anyone know how to get the channels setup for dvb? |
| [03:29:00] | JonK: | something odd, only seeing kernel-2.4.27 with that |
| [03:29:00] | markw_: | hadees: need the component video. |
| [03:29:00] | JonK: | and other stuff,, but no kernel source other tan 2.4.27 |
| [03:30:00] | joev: | kernel.org latest stable release 2.6.12.1 |
| [03:30:00] | markw_: | JonK: ok... get the kernel source from kernel.org |
| [03:30:00] | JonK: | wgettign now |
| [03:30:00] | hadees: | markw_, i meant the fan |
| [03:30:00] | hadees: | markw_, if you are careful you can remove it |
| [03:30:00] | hadees: | and put another on there |
| [03:31:00] | hadees: | its like putting a heat sink on a cpu |
| [03:31:00] | _JohnL: | i know you guys have ethernet cables going everywhere... how do you hide them? |
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| [03:31:00] | _JohnL: | http://www.cableorganizer.com/surface-raceways/#A <-- was thinking of using this to hide, but they are all so expensive |
| [03:31:00] | JonK: | 1/2 way.... |
| [03:31:00] | hadees: | _JohnL, i try not too, i use wireless bridge to my mythtv box and game boxs |
| [03:31:00] | hadees: | video game systems |
| [03:32:00] | JonK: | now i've already built the 2.0 drivers... do i need to undo anything |
| [03:32:00] | joev: | no |
| [03:32:00] | _JohnL: | i want to avoid wireless... too slow and insecure for me |
| [03:32:00] | JonK: | wait there all in the 2.6.... dir so ishoudl be fine |
| [03:32:00] | joev: | they will confilct with the dvb |
| [03:32:00] | joev: | found this out the hard way |
| [03:32:00] | hadees: | _JohnL, eh you can keep it secure by rotating your wep key |
| [03:32:00] | markw_: | anyone get an hdtv 3000 card working with cox cable in sd? |
| [03:33:00] | markw_: | sd == san diego |
| [03:33:00] | hadees: | _JohnL, if they don't have enough packets of a given key they can't break it |
| [03:33:00] | _JohnL: | hadees, ive hear whispers that weps can be cracked real easy |
| [03:33:00] | hadees: | _JohnL, yeah it can |
| [03:33:00] | _JohnL: | hadees, anyways, its too slow |
| [03:33:00] | hadees: | _JohnL, but to crack wep you need alot of intresting packets |
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| [03:34:00] | _JohnL: | id rather not chance it, besides wireless support in linux is shit |
| [03:34:00] | hadees: | for a normal user you only generate mabey enough to use for cracking in a 3 week period |
| [03:34:00] | hadees: | so they would have to watch for 3 weeks |
| [03:34:00] | hadees: | if you rotate say every week |
| [03:34:00] | JonK: | unpacking new kernel |
| [03:34:00] | hadees: | they don't have enough packets |
| [03:34:00] | JonK: | oen thing, i also have hauppauge cards |
| [03:34:00] | markw_: | _JohnL: just leave it wide open and do ipsec over it. |
| [03:34:00] | mr_clark: | Hi guys. I've searched and tried so many different options with no luck. PVR350, A415-HPG remote, Some buttons work and some don't. How do I fix it? |
| [03:35:00] | joev: | dunno bout that JonK |
| [03:35:00] | hadees: | so no one has any suggestions for a low profile heat sink |
| [03:35:00] | joev: | I use pcHDTV |
| [03:35:00] | hadees: | my mythtv keeps over heating and turning off |
| [03:35:00] | JonK: | blow on it |
| [03:35:00] | Randall64: | woo, got another 6 month intro deal for cable Internet service because I'm moving |
| [03:35:00] | hadees: | because the heat sink is like 2 cms from the DVD player |
| [03:35:00] | JonK: | sff? |
| [03:36:00] | JonK: | how long have you had the current heat sink? |
| [03:36:00] | JonK: | make oldconfig? |
| [03:36:00] | JonK: | or do i need to set anything |
| [03:37:00] | joev: | if you don't already have 2.6.12, no |
| [03:37:00] | JonK: | i dont |
| [03:38:00] | JonK: | i had 2.6.11 |
| [03:38:00] | joev: | just run make menuconfig or make xconfig and choose the options |
| [03:38:00] | JonK: | bah! I wanted the easy wayout |
| [03:38:00] | JonK: | now i have to do this from the other room |
| [03:38:00] | joev: | well, you could copy over the 2.6.11 .config |
| [03:38:00] | joev: | load it and start from there |
| [03:38:00] | JonK: | what option to i need to make sure? |
| [03:39:00] | JonK: | is there |
| [03:39:00] | JonK: | this is going to require another beer.... i can tell |
| [03:39:00] | joev: | dvb-core must be built into the kernel |
| [03:39:00] | joev: | the others should be modules |
| [03:39:00] | joev: | same holds true for alsa |
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| [03:40:00] | joev: | does anyone know how to setup the dvb channels? |
| [03:41:00] | joev: | JonK, there is a could howto on the pchdtv fourm |
| [03:41:00] | JonK: | could? |
| [03:41:00] | joev: | good |
| [03:41:00] | joev: | i'm a bit frustarted and burnt right now |
| [03:41:00] | JonK: | no worries |
| [03:41:00] | joev: | wanna get something recording |
| [03:42:00] | JonK: | me too |
| [03:43:00] | joev: | just been working on this bloody project for soooo long |
| [03:43:00] | joev: | and i get close |
| [03:43:00] | joev: | but no cigar |
| [03:43:00] | JonK: | me too |
| [03:43:00] | JonK: | i just keep adding more stuff |
| [03:43:00] | JonK: | i 4 freaking tuner cards |
| [03:43:00] | JonK: | have 4 |
| [03:43:00] | joev: | damn |
| [03:44:00] | joev: | thought i was bad with 2 and 1 terrabyte of HD space |
| [03:44:00] | JonK: | started with the 350, then wanted add a 500 (but accidently bought 2) |
| [03:44:00] | JonK: | now just trying to add the HD |
| [03:44:00] | JonK: | only havd 600 gb space |
| [03:44:00] | joev: | after HD you'll never go back |
| [03:44:00] | joev: | i cannot watch anything but |
| [03:44:00] | JonK: | it should be the exuse i need to go buy the plasma screen |
| [03:44:00] | _JohnL: | how can i manually sync my server time to ntp? |
| [03:45:00] | JonK: | well, i'm off to run xconfig — on the pvr350 out (asspainery) |
| [03:45:00] | mr_clark: | ntpdate x.x.x.x |
| [03:46:00] | joev: | does anyone know how to get channels setup for dvb? |
| [03:46:00] | joev: | good luck |
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| [03:55:00] | _JohnL: | anyone know why lirc will die if its idle for a certain amount of time? |
| [03:56:00] | joev: | any help with channel setup? |
| [03:56:00] | hadees: | _JohnL, it shouldn't try running it in non spawn mode and see if it prints anything before dying |
| [03:56:00] | _JohnL: | i dont know anything about dvb |
| [03:57:00] | _JohnL: | hadees, non spawn mode? i have it daemonized right now and it just dies after a while (few days) and requires a hard restart |
| [03:57:00] | hadees: | _JohnL, and that ntp stuff isn't really something for this channel |
| [03:57:00] | _JohnL: | i know it did pertain to myth though, my box didnt sync like it was supposed to |
| [03:57:00] | hadees: | _JohnL, okay i would run it in non spawn mode inside a screen |
| [03:58:00] | hadees: | _JohnL, you got you know the diffrence between mythtv help and general linux help, there are other channels on this network for those things |
| [03:58:00] | hadees: | _JohnL, like #ntp |
| [03:58:00] | _JohnL: | ok |
| [03:58:00] | JonK: | okay for the DVB core support, module or in kernel? |
| [03:59:00] | joev: | DVB core in kernel |
| [03:59:00] | joev: | others module |
| [03:59:00] | JonK: | you're sure... remember i have other hauppauge cards to modprobe |
| [03:59:00] | joev: | then I'm not sure |
| [04:00:00] | joev: | these were the directions for the hd3000 |
| [04:00:00] | joev: | which is all i have |
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| [04:00:00] | JonK: | bah, can always build more kernels |
| [04:00:00] | JonK: | going to build it in |
| [04:00:00] | joev: | not sure what to do about multiple card manufacturers |
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| [04:05:00] | JonK: | ok.. i notice in customize dvbfrontends |
| [04:06:00] | JonK: | there is a reference to the hd3000 card that was unckecked |
| [04:06:00] | JonK: | told it to build the module |
| [04:06:00] | joev: | correct |
| [04:06:00] | JonK: | running make for my new kernell goodness |
| [04:07:00] | JonK: | ratio of modules i will never use to modules i will: at least 8:1? |
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| [04:07:00] | joev: | sounds about right |
| [04:08:00] | JonK: | compile ho! |
| [04:08:00] | joev: | and there will still be something missing |
| [04:08:00] | atomjack: | can anyone suggest a good IR learning remote that I can use to re-program all of the keys to send keystrokes that my IR keyboard sends? |
| [04:08:00] | JonK: | harmony? |
| [04:09:00] | JonK: | while compiling... a bit of trivia... finish this line |
| [04:09:00] | JonK: | my cat's breath... |
| [04:09:00] | atomjack: | smells like cat food? |
| [04:09:00] | JonK: | ding ding |
| [04:09:00] | JonK: | for doube... I bent my .... |
| [04:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | wookie |
| [04:10:00] | JonK: | we have a winner |
| [04:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ahh Simpsons, how it has penetrated modern culture. Just like Seinfeld |
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| [04:10:00] | JonK: | compile ho! continues |
| [04:11:00] | JonK: | sure ill be using that reiser fs.o module very soon |
| [04:11:00] | JonK: | but if not, it's sure comforting to know that i can |
| [04:12:00] | joev: | it would be more comforting to be able to get these channels setup |
| [04:12:00] | JonK: | indeed |
| [04:13:00] | JonK: | booting the frontend, going to compile and stream from the backend at teh same time |
| [04:14:00] | JonK: | ok... who took my cell phone |
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| [04:14:00] | bricks: | Yo. |
| [04:15:00] | bricks: | I need an opinion on if my system should be able to handle MythTV |
| [04:15:00] | bricks: | 1.2 GHZ AMD Athlon |
| [04:15:00] | GeckoFiend: | yes |
| [04:15:00] | bricks: | 120GB Hardrive |
| [04:15:00] | bricks: | tv-tuner win-tv go |
| [04:15:00] | bricks: | graphics card 8MB |
| [04:16:00] | bricks: | and Soundblaster live |
| [04:16:00] | bricks: | any thing that should be upgraded? |
| [04:16:00] | bricks: | i'm getting the signal over the air |
| [04:16:00] | GeckoFiend: | bricks what kind of graphics card |
| [04:16:00] | bricks: | SIS 8MB |
| [04:17:00] | GeckoFiend: | that might be pushing it. safest bet is a cheap nivida |
| [04:17:00] | hadees: | GeckoFiend, so was that on answer the other idea a blow off? you can tell me my ego can handle it, i think it would be a good plugin though, replace the crapy current mythnews |
| [04:17:00] | hadees: | GeckoFiend, and i have thought of some improvments on the paper |
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| [04:18:00] | GeckoFiend: | hadees I must have missed something. I've been afk since 3:30 my time (it's 10:20 now) |
| [04:18:00] | bricks: | well whenever i try to see any thing — (I'm using Knobbmyth ) The picture on the tv is horrible. even when i'm just recording. does the graphics card effect the quality of me recording the tv signal? |
| [04:18:00] | bricks: | because the cheap card works fine in my faster system |
| [04:18:00] | hadees: | GeckoFiend, hell i would work on it if you were willing to apprentice me on the ways of mythtv development |
| [04:18:00] | bricks: | although it has an nvidia card |
| [04:19:00] | GeckoFiend: | hadees I don't see anything in scrollback either |
| [04:19:00] | hadees: | GeckoFiend, this was a few days ago, but no matter, the article is this, http://www.kom.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de/acmmm99/ep/merialdo/ it was the idea i was talking about wanting to start a company around |
| [04:20:00] | hadees: | but your friend beat me to it |
| [04:20:00] | hadees: | so i figure i should put it out there int he hopes it still gets done |
| [04:20:00] | GeckoFiend: | heh you should probably be talking to him not me ;) |
| [04:20:00] | hadees: | and i would be intrested in helping but right now mythtv souce is like a jungle to me, still going through it |
| [04:21:00] | hadees: | GeckoFiend, well i figured you would end up being the one workong in it, what do you think |
| [04:21:00] | hadees: | it would be a great replacement to mythnews |
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| [04:22:00] | markw_: | JonK: if you build a kernel from kernel.org, use the kernel-package package, it will make debs for you. |
| [04:22:00] | joev: | can anyone help with setting up channels with a dvb card? |
| [04:23:00] | markw_: | joev: hehe.. Haven't gotten that far yet. going to run a cable from the front room to here later to get it setup before I unleash it on the family. |
| [04:24:00] | hadees: | GeckoFiend, my addition to the idea is to get very precise cuts around news you would use the close captioning as a base for the a time frame the story might end in, then you use open source voice reg software to compare it to the CC and find exactly where the story ends |
| [04:24:00] | Randall64: | My poor old bttv is dying (2 vertical lines) |
| [04:25:00] | GeckoFiend: | hadees it sounds interesting to say the least. |
| [04:26:00] | hadees: | GeckoFiend, it is pretty simple with pre existing tech |
| [04:26:00] | JonK: | good thing the whole isdn subsystem is compiling... |
| [04:27:00] | GeckoFiend: | gonna read over it a bit more but I'm going afk for a bit again |
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| [04:28:00] | hadees: | GeckoFiend, cool, I have an idea for an even crazy detection of stories also, using face reg on the news casters, although i don't know if any open source projects exist for that |
| [04:28:00] | hadees: | GeckoFiend, since you see in the paper most stories are cut between the news anchors |
| [04:30:00] | jams: | hadees, what happened to the music visulations you were working on? |
| [04:31:00] | hadees: | jams, i am still testing it, but i had trouble with gdb |
| [04:31:00] | hadees: | jams, also it only works with codeweavers version of wine |
| [04:32:00] | jams: | version 4? |
| [04:32:00] | JonK: | let no module go uncompiled! |
| [04:32:00] | JonK: | (although i'll need the tulip.o one) |
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| [04:32:00] | hadees: | jams, any of them, see i was trying to embed an wine window inside another x11 window |
| [04:33:00] | hadees: | regular wine won't do that because it is really alot of hacks |
| [04:33:00] | hadees: | and it seems there are no plans to add it in |
| [04:33:00] | jams: | I see |
| [04:33:00] | hadees: | jams, mainly though its gdb |
| [04:33:00] | hadees: | i don't know how to use it |
| [04:33:00] | jams: | well codeweavers wine is the only one I will/have install |
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| [04:35:00] | hadees: | jams, yeah thats not really a problem, its just hard, i am new to this and crossing alot of diffrent stuff |
| [04:36:00] | hadees: | i have to learn wine and mythtv |
| [04:36:00] | jswensen: | I have a WinTV-GO card and am having a problem that the video lags behind the audio. I have the audio source set to /dev/dsp. Is there a different device I can point it to in order to make them match up? |
| [04:37:00] | hadees: | jswensen, do you have dma on all your devices |
| [04:37:00] | joev: | no pids set error |
| [04:37:00] | joev: | can anyone help? |
| [04:37:00] | jswensen: | hdparm says so. Not sure about the bttv driver, but it should |
| [04:37:00] | hadees: | jswensen, run top while mythtv is on |
| [04:37:00] | JonK: | i think a little brood war is required; while the comiling continues |
| [04:37:00] | hadees: | jswensen, is anything spiking or maxing out? |
| [04:40:00] | hadees: | jswensen, also check for any options that could be slowing it down, pretty much i would uncheck all the extra stuff like instant commercial detection |
| [04:40:00] | jswensen: | My processor is maxing out at ~40% usage. |
| [04:41:00] | hadees: | jswensen, there is also an option to force the audio to sync with video |
| [04:41:00] | jswensen: | I am running ubuntu. When I try to start watching TV, it says something else is using /dev/dsp. |
| [04:41:00] | hadees: | and i take it nothing is in your processes that would be using it? |
| [04:42:00] | hadees: | that sounds like a ubuntu problem if something else is gettin to /dev/dsp |
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| [04:42:00] | hadees: | first |
| [04:42:00] | hadees: | i would still try the other stuff though |
| [04:42:00] | hadees: | since tracking that down might be more of a pain |
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| [04:42:00] | jasoncohen: | jswensen, i got the same error in ubuntu. the problem is due to esd. |
| [04:43:00] | jswensen: | What is esd? And how did you solve the problem? |
| [04:43:00] | jasoncohen: | jswensen, – http://ubuntuguide.org/ – look for the "how to configure sound properly in GNOME" question |
| [04:43:00] | hadees: | isn't esd something used with oss |
| [04:43:00] | jswensen: | jasoncohen: thanks! |
| [04:43:00] | jasoncohen: | esd is gnome's sound daemon daemon i believe |
| [04:44:00] | hadees: | you know what i always wanted to know, why there isn't like a xine mythtv frontend |
| [04:44:00] | jasoncohen: | jswensen, i'm not sure if that'll fix it for sure because i am actually using debian for my mythtv system but i know that that esd fix allowed me to use sound in multiple programs with esd |
| [04:44:00] | jasoncohen: | so it should fix your mythtv problem |
| [04:44:00] | hadees: | you could always just not use esd |
| [04:45:00] | jasoncohen: | if the system is just for mythtv that would be fine |
| [04:45:00] | hadees: | for mythtv you really shouldn't need it |
| [04:45:00] | jasoncohen: | but this might be a desktop system as well in which case you wouldn't have gnome sounds |
| [04:45:00] | hadees: | but if it was going through a second sound thing i would expect the sound to lag behind the video |
| [04:45:00] | jasoncohen: | or sound with programs that need esd or arts like gaim i think |
| [04:45:00] | hadees: | not the video behind the sound |
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| [04:46:00] | jasoncohen: | his problem is that he can't use sound because /dev/dsp is being used |
| [04:46:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, no you just couldn't hear them at the same time |
| [04:46:00] | jasoncohen: | hadees, no- without using that esd fix, you would have to kill esd before starting mythfrontend |
| [04:46:00] | jasoncohen: | the default esd setup in gnome 2.10 is broken |
| [04:47:00] | hadees: | eh what do i know about ubuuubtububu |
| [04:47:00] | jasoncohen: | heh, anyways i wanted a stable system so i used sarge |
| [04:47:00] | hadees: | gentoo here baby, all the way |
| [04:48:00] | jasoncohen: | i'm using sid on my desktop- will try breezy when it comes out |
| [04:48:00] | hadees: | lean and mean |
| [04:48:00] | jasoncohen: | hadees, isn't it annoying having to compile everything including security updates? |
| [04:48:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, nope, it goes pretty fast for most things |
| [04:48:00] | jasoncohen: | heh, what do you do if there's a fix for xorg or openoffice- wait a day for it to compile? |
| [04:48:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, and you can use binarys |
| [04:49:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, i mean comparied to other systems gentoo runs with only what is needed not what they guessed you needed |
| [04:49:00] | jswensen: | Well, time for the reboot....might be back :) |
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| [04:49:00] | hadees: | and your system is always up to date |
| [04:49:00] | jasoncohen: | good luck |
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| [04:49:00] | jasoncohen: | hadees, are you using the stable or unstable branch? |
| [04:49:00] | hadees: | my damn mythtv box keeps over heating |
| [04:49:00] | hadees: | and turing off |
| [04:49:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, a combination |
| [04:50:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, most people only use unstable for what is needed |
| [04:50:00] | joev: | do you have to manually setup dvb_channels and dvb_pids? |
| [04:50:00] | jasoncohen: | why are so many people anti-gentoo? |
| [04:50:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, well they don't like to wait |
| [04:50:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, it isn't simple |
| [04:50:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, and gentoo has come around new a new kind of help, the gentoo forums are amazing compaired to help anywhere else for other linux distros |
| [04:51:00] | jasoncohen: | how is it new? |
| [04:51:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, and gentoo people are like mormons |
| [04:51:00] | hadees: | they try to spread the word |
| [04:51:00] | Chutt: | s/r// |
| [04:51:00] | jasoncohen: | lol |
| [04:51:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, how is what new? |
| [04:51:00] | Chutt: | well, that's not right, but |
| [04:51:00] | jasoncohen: | you said that gentoo has a "new kind of help" |
| [04:52:00] | jasoncohen: | if i remember correctly, Beirdo hates gentoo/gentoo users :) |
| [04:52:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, the forums are just alot nicer, i mean i would say they got the people who didn't like debian calling them idiots |
| [04:52:00] | jasoncohen: | *raises hand* |
| [04:52:00] | jasoncohen: | i try to help the people who are called idiots- the debian people are knowledge but damn are they moody |
| [04:52:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, so the forums are a reble against debians kind of google it your self |
| [04:53:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, also people don't like the fact that there aren't ebuilds for every program they want |
| [04:53:00] | hadees: | but i mean it is easy to make one |
| [04:53:00] | jasoncohen: | #debian also seems to get a lot of questions from distros based on debian – knoppix, ubuntu, meppis etc. which pisses them off to no end |
| [04:54:00] | jasoncohen: | when i checked out the selection, gentoo seemed to have one of the largest choices of any distro |
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| [04:55:00] | jasoncohen: | and debian is probably a close second- they're at 17,000 packages are so i believe |
| [04:55:00] | jswensen: | I'm back...now it doesn't give me that error anymore, but once I start watching TV, it is like there is a feedback loop. |
| [04:55:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, i mean also it pisses you of when you spend like 12 hours installing and it won't work |
| [04:55:00] | jasoncohen: | do ebuilds fail? |
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| [04:55:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, yeah |
| [04:55:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, that why the forum comes in handy |
| [04:55:00] | jasoncohen: | does emerge have a function to install build dependencies like apt-get build-dep? |
| [04:55:00] | hadees: | ebuilds are also rather simple |
| [04:56:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, yup, mabey better |
| [04:56:00] | Cardoe: | jasoncohen: emerge mythtv |
| [04:56:00] | jasoncohen: | but, do you have to specify all the compile options you want/ and how do you know what options to use for so many programs? |
| [04:56:00] | Cardoe: | jasoncohen: it'll pull in every dependency |
| [04:56:00] | jasoncohen: | cool |
| [04:56:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, yeah they are use flags or other bash variables |
| [04:57:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, that is in a well written ebuild |
| [04:57:00] | jasoncohen: | so what if you don't specify options- you get the default? |
| [04:57:00] | Cardoe: | basically. |
| [04:57:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, well depends what you mean by default, some ebuilds have their own defaults |
| [04:57:00] | hadees: | which may or may not be the normal one the program does |
| [04:58:00] | jasoncohen: | so, what's the ease of use on gentoo like compared to debian? |
| [04:58:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, but since they are USE flags, you can do emerge -p mythtv which is pretend and it shows what USE flags are in uses |
| [04:58:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, if your intrested read through the install guide |
| [04:58:00] | hadees: | its long but detailed |
| [04:58:00] | jasoncohen: | hadees, i've already looked through it |
| [04:58:00] | Cardoe: | jasoncohen: thing is... there's no need to rebuild your .deb or .rpm |
| [04:58:00] | jasoncohen: | but isn't that just for the basic install- not administration/use ? |
| [04:58:00] | joev: | Googling has shown lots of hits for my dvb_channel problem but I can't find answer |
| [04:59:00] | Cardoe: | jasoncohen: every use, you need to go through the basic install guide. |
| [04:59:00] | jasoncohen: | ok |
| [04:59:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, basic? only root can emerge packages |
| [04:59:00] | joev: | can anyone help????? |
| [04:59:00] | jasoncohen: | i'll look through it now |
| [05:00:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, think of ebuilds as a bash script wrapper around the normal way you build from source, with ./configure make make install |
| [05:00:00] | jasoncohen: | so, why does debian look upon gentoo users like crazy rebels who don't care about stability? |
| [05:00:00] | Cardoe: | jasoncohen: because you're compiling the packages on your own system |
| [05:00:00] | Cardoe: | jasoncohen: rather then some magical developer's machine that's "uber" stable. |
| [05:00:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, i don't know you'll have to ask them, mainly the problem is you spend time compiling from source |
| [05:00:00] | hadees: | they say there is no speed increase |
| [05:00:00] | Cardoe: | jasoncohen: and cause there's a section of users that use stupid CFLAGS |
| [05:00:00] | hadees: | i think there has to be something but i don't really care i use gentoo for portage |
| [05:00:00] | jasoncohen: | i remember one conversation where a person was asking what FS they should use and everyone said ext3 – and the questioner asked about reiserfs and #debian responded that only a gentoo user would use reiser etc. |
| [05:01:00] | Cardoe: | hadees: portage is really good and easy to use.. it's a good package management system |
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| [05:01:00] | jswensen: | Has anyone ever had a feedback problem with MythTV? |
| [05:01:00] | Cardoe: | jswensen: need to mute a channel |
| [05:01:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, hehe, see in gentoo you can do what ever you want, there are people on the bleeding edge, most though only go for things that they want |
| [05:01:00] | Cardoe: | jswensen: or you have a ghetto cable that's picking up interference |
| [05:02:00] | jasoncohen: | hadees, and how do you specify if you want unstable or stable? |
| [05:02:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, like i only install unstable programs if they have an added value over the stable version |
| [05:02:00] | jasoncohen: | and gentoo provides security updates for both branches? |
| [05:02:00] | Cardoe: | jasoncohen: you can specify it on a per package basis or as a whole. |
| [05:02:00] | jswensen: | Cardoe: so does the bttv driver take care of capturing the sound, so I don't need the WinTV-GO lineout going into my PC linein? |
| [05:02:00] | Cardoe: | jasoncohen: there's no real seperate branches.. |
| [05:02:00] | hadees: | ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge |
| [05:02:00] | Cardoe: | jswensen: depends. btaudio |
| [05:02:00] | Cardoe: | jasoncohen: but yes.. security updates happen to both |
| [05:02:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, there are other ways that make it so you only have to emerge and it knows you always want the unstable |
| [05:03:00] | jasoncohen: | Cardoe, is there a tool to update the whole system? |
| [05:03:00] | Cardoe: | jasoncohen: emerge |
| [05:03:00] | hadees: | the real cool thing is when gentoo can do security updates automaticly because portage is updated so quick i could just emerge all the security updates in a cron |
| [05:03:00] | jasoncohen: | i read that gentoo was thinking of having a security only source so people could get just security updates rather than having to upgrade everything |
| [05:03:00] | hadees: | yup |
| [05:03:00] | Cardoe: | jasoncohen: well yeah the security updates happen to the entire tree. |
| [05:04:00] | Cardoe: | but sometimes people don't want to sync their entire tree |
| [05:04:00] | jasoncohen: | hadees, can't you do that with any system? i have the same with cron-apt- it updates and emails me the report |
| [05:04:00] | Cardoe: | they just want the security updates. |
| [05:04:00] | Chutt: | wow, like security.debian.org? that would be so l33t |
| [05:04:00] | Chutt: | :p |
| [05:04:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: no |
| [05:04:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, i could, its a pref, i like portage |
| [05:04:00] | Chutt: | it's just security updates to a dist |
| [05:04:00] | jasoncohen: | hadees, portage is what emerge uses? |
| [05:04:00] | Chutt: | separate source of packages than the main distro |
| [05:05:00] | JonK: | crap... suspended kernel building and forgot to restart |
| [05:05:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, portage is the package management system, emerge is part of it |
| [05:05:00] | Chutt: | updates before the regular stuff, generally |
| [05:05:00] | jasoncohen: | oh, ok |
| [05:05:00] | Cardoe: | jasoncohen: emerge is the program to run basically. |
| [05:05:00] | hadees: | Chutt, chill out, i just like gentoo |
| [05:05:00] | hadees: | do what you want |
| [05:05:00] | Cardoe: | seriously. |
| [05:05:00] | Chutt: | i was just poking fun |
| [05:05:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: learn how to write C++ |
| [05:05:00] | Cardoe: | kk thx! |
| [05:06:00] | Chutt: | i haven't had a gentoo user annoy me in a few months, actually |
| [05:06:00] | Chutt: | it's been rather nice =) |
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| [05:06:00] | jasoncohen: | Cardoe, are the default compile options for programs restrictive? debian's kernels for example provide nearly every module i would want. is it the same in gentoo or do you have to manually choose what you want? |
| [05:06:00] | hadees: | Chutt, do be fair those people are the newbies to linux who think gentoo is a good idea for a first distro |
| [05:06:00] | hadees: | to not do |
| [05:06:00] | Chutt: | of course |
| [05:06:00] | Chutt: | but they're still annoying |
| [05:07:00] | hadees: | gentoo is the worst first distro ever |
| [05:07:00] | hadees: | even with the docs |
| [05:07:00] | hadees: | its pretty much linux from scratch |
| [05:07:00] | JonK: | building building building... |
| [05:07:00] | hadees: | one step up |
| [05:07:00] | Cardoe: | jasoncohen: you configure a kernel yourself |
| [05:07:00] | jasoncohen: | the docs make it look somewhat simple but time consuming. is it difficult? |
| [05:07:00] | jasoncohen: | heh, so no apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.11-1–386 :( |
| [05:07:00] | Cardoe: | jasoncohen: it's really not that tough |
| [05:07:00] | JonK: | depends on whether you choose stage 1 2 or 3 install |
| [05:07:00] | hadees: | Jonk i can do it in less then like 7 and i only spend mabey 30mins really doing anything |
| [05:07:00] | Cardoe: | At least I don't think it is. |
| [05:08:00] | hadees: | 7 hours |
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| [05:08:00] | hadees: | thats from stage 1 |
| [05:08:00] | jswensen: | Well, I'm going to try KnoppMyth. We'll see if they solve my problems |
| [05:08:00] | Cardoe: | I provide Gentoo servers to companies. |
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| [05:08:00] | Cardoe: | I can have a new server done in about 40 minutes. |
| [05:08:00] | hadees: | Cardoe, hmm that doesn't seem like a good idea |
| [05:08:00] | JonK: | i will miss him |
| [05:08:00] | Cardoe: | hadees: why? |
| [05:08:00] | JonK: | joev you still around? |
| [05:08:00] | jasoncohen: | Cardoe, isn't Debian stable/RHEL 4 more of a server distro than gentoo? |
| [05:08:00] | hadees: | Cardoe, well because there isn't a real server branch of portage |
| [05:09:00] | Chutt: | i'd personally think you'd want to push security updates out on a server as fast as possible |
| [05:09:00] | Cardoe: | I don't use the upstream Portage tree. |
| [05:09:00] | hadees: | Cardoe, there are still crazy errors in the main tree |
| [05:09:00] | joev: | yep |
| [05:09:00] | JonK: | depends on the builds you emerge |
| [05:09:00] | Cardoe: | I have a seperate snapshot. |
| [05:09:00] | joev: | dying a slow painful death |
| [05:09:00] | JonK: | we all are |
| [05:09:00] | Cardoe: | and I drop in anything I want to add. |
| [05:09:00] | JonK: | it's just a question of when |
| [05:09:00] | JonK: | stupid aging |
| [05:09:00] | jasoncohen: | Cardoe, so you have to maintain security yourself? |
| [05:09:00] | Cardoe: | There's a P4 box that binary builds the packages |
| [05:09:00] | joev: | cannot for the life of me figure out the channel setup crap |
| [05:09:00] | Cardoe: | and all the servers phone home at night and grab updates. |
| [05:10:00] | JonK: | i assume you've posted to the hdtv forum |
| [05:10:00] | Chutt: | cardoe, that's cool. |
| [05:10:00] | joev: | yeah |
| [05:10:00] | hadees: | Cardoe, what gentoo needs is like a server that just compiles packages for you, so you could have it compiling away when new things come out for you to install |
| [05:10:00] | Cardoe: | jasoncohen: when there's a security notice out.. I just copy the new ebuild to my tree and it happens. |
| [05:10:00] | JonK: | any response or was post today? |
| [05:10:00] | joev: | they are slow usually to respond |
| [05:10:00] | JonK: | i suspended the kernel building |
| [05:10:00] | jasoncohen: | Cardoe, nice, is that automated or manual? |
| [05:10:00] | Chutt: | A respectable IDE drive and do 3000mb in 2.00 seconds. |
| [05:10:00] | Cardoe: | all automated |
| [05:10:00] | joev: | was really hopin to get some sort of image outta this thing tonight |
| [05:10:00] | Chutt: | uh, that's not true, is it? |
| [05:10:00] | JonK: | and went a battling on battle.net |
| [05:10:00] | JonK: | forgot to fg |
| [05:10:00] | jasoncohen: | does gentoo have the largest package selection of any linux distro? |
| [05:10:00] | Cardoe: | Chutt: what? |
| [05:11:00] | Chutt: | someone on the users list |
| [05:11:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, i would guess not |
| [05:11:00] | Chutt: | complaining that his sata drive is too slow |
| [05:11:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, there are just so many rpms |
| [05:11:00] | jasoncohen: | hadees, what does? |
| [05:11:00] | JonK: | or .deb's |
| [05:11:00] | Cardoe: | jasoncohen: It might. I think all the rpm sites combined |
| [05:11:00] | jasoncohen: | hadees, yeah- but they don't all work together |
| [05:11:00] | Cardoe: | but gentoo has the one single source |
| [05:11:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, yeah or debs, although it might have the largest central location |
| [05:11:00] | hadees: | for debs and rpms you need to give it servers |
| [05:11:00] | JonK: | good thing the bluetooth drivers all compiled |
| [05:11:00] | JonK: | ... |
| [05:12:00] | jasoncohen: | Cardoe, look at fedora for example- they have like 60,000 total rpms- but only a small fraction of that are unique packages and worse yet half of them or more conflict |
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| [05:12:00] | JonK: | mchou, can you help joev with channel tuning and dvb? |
| [05:12:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, also do you know fedora has like 4 versions of glib installed |
| [05:12:00] | mchou: | darn, fries has a 120GB drive for $20 after rebates..... |
| [05:12:00] | JonK: | while my shiny new 2.6.12 kernel continues to compile all the modules i'm never going to use |
| [05:12:00] | mchou: | frys* |
| [05:12:00] | jasoncohen: | Cardoe, for example, you need extras for amarok which conflicts with dag that i would need for openvpn which conflicts with axel which has mythtv, and nessus (and is also unbelievably unstable i hear) |
| [05:13:00] | JonK: | raidable? |
| [05:13:00] | mchou: | JonK: what makes you think I know anything about dvb? |
| [05:13:00] | JonK: | thought you had 2 hd3000 cards |
| [05:13:00] | jasoncohen: | in debian – i just do apt-get install and i'm 95% sure that debian has it and it works even on sid |
| [05:13:00] | Cardoe: | jasoncohen: yeah that crap is not in Portage. |
| [05:13:00] | hadees: | is dvb legal? |
| [05:13:00] | Cardoe: | jasoncohen: I'd say it has the largest central repo. |
| [05:13:00] | mchou: | JonK: nope. not me. |
| [05:13:00] | JonK: | what makes you think it would not |
| [05:13:00] | JonK: | nm then |
| [05:13:00] | Chutt: | hadees, 'slong as you're not using softcam |
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| [05:13:00] | JonK: | ? |
| [05:14:00] | JonK: | softcam? dvb legal? |
| [05:14:00] | mchou: | haha!!! |
| [05:14:00] | hadees: | Chutt, what sucks is i couldn't use softcam and still pay for it |
| [05:14:00] | jasoncohen: | Cardoe, i think that's what makes debian so good- all the packages are tested to work together and run well. on fedora you're taking a bet everytime you install something |
| [05:14:00] | JonK: | that makes no sense dvb is a standard |
| [05:14:00] | hadees: | Chutt, doesn't dvb have the best picture quality |
| [05:14:00] | Chutt: | you're grabbing the digital signal |
| [05:14:00] | hadees: | is anyone working on any hardware mpeg4 cards |
| [05:14:00] | Chutt: | picture quality depends on whatever they're sending |
| [05:14:00] | jasoncohen: | and it's why ubuntu and knoppix etc. use debian as their base- even sid is pretty damn stable most of the time |
| [05:14:00] | JonK: | plextor has a usb one |
| [05:15:00] | Chutt: | the mpeg4 hardware in the plextor isn't so hot |
| [05:15:00] | JonK: | i like ubuntu |
| [05:15:00] | Cardoe: | jasoncohen: at that point might as well use Gentoo |
| [05:15:00] | JonK: | mostly becuase i liek saying ubuntu |
| [05:15:00] | JonK: | say it with me now |
| [05:15:00] | JonK: | u |
| [05:15:00] | JonK: | bunt |
| [05:15:00] | JonK: | u |
| [05:15:00] | Chutt: | compression doesn't go much better than a hauppauge mpeg2 card |
| [05:15:00] | jasoncohen: | Cardoe, what do you mean? |
| [05:15:00] | jasoncohen: | Cardoe, i'm running sid now w/o issue- you just have to use your brain when running upgrades |
| [05:15:00] | JonK: | think ill ever use an ip6 module in this box? |
| [05:15:00] | hadees: | Chutt, really? mpeg4 wouldn't be an improvement? |
| [05:16:00] | JonK: | just in case baby i'll have all the modules i need |
| [05:16:00] | Chutt: | it _would_ if the hardware were better |
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| [05:16:00] | JonK: | or ipx? |
| [05:16:00] | Chutt: | the codec on there just doesn't have enough power for better compression, really |
| [05:16:00] | JonK: | lol netware ipx??? |
| [05:16:00] | hadees: | need some open hardware |
| [05:16:00] | JonK: | i reallyshould have looked at the xconfig more closely |
| [05:16:00] | Chutt: | JonK, heh, it takes longer to disable all that crap than it does to compile it on reasonable hardware |
| [05:17:00] | mchou: | yeah, but you only need to do it once :) |
| [05:17:00] | bluesdogg: | hi guys, newb here. I've installed Myth on a FC3 box following the Mythtvology guide, and i'm trying to start the back end for the first time so i can populate my db (per his instructions)... however i get the following error: /varvid/captures/nfslockfile.lock: Permission Denied |
| [05:17:00] | hadees: | i like portage on mac osx |
| [05:17:00] | hadees: | thats something that only really gentoo could do |
| [05:17:00] | bluesdogg: | i've checked and the directory exists, and i think its chmodded correctly |
| [05:17:00] | jasoncohen: | bluesdogg, you need to run the backend as root |
| [05:18:00] | jasoncohen: | Cardoe, is gentoo like debian in that you don't really ever have to re-install – just update? |
| [05:18:00] | bluesdogg: | Oh, can't run it as a regular user? |
| [05:18:00] | Chutt: | when would you ever have to reinstall any linux distro? |
| [05:18:00] | Cardoe: | jasoncohen: yup |
| [05:19:00] | jasoncohen: | Chutt, the upgrade process on the FCs were pretty terrible and not so great on mandrake before 10.1 |
| [05:19:00] | JonK: | i think my cat is horking up hairballs |
| [05:19:00] | Cardoe: | jasoncohen: I still have my original install from 2000–2001 on my old desktop. |
| [05:19:00] | Chutt: | i took a fc2 box up to fc3 rather easily |
| [05:19:00] | hadees: | Chutt, i think he means not have to wait for a staged update and follow with updates based when they come out |
| [05:19:00] | Chutt: | ah |
| [05:19:00] | jasoncohen: | Chutt, i heard that there were some major problems upgrading for some |
| [05:19:00] | Chutt: | quite possibly =) |
| [05:19:00] | Chutt: | i didn't have any problems |
| [05:20:00] | jasoncohen: | also, did you have to burn an ISO or were you able to simply change your rpm sources to FC3? |
| [05:20:00] | Chutt: | just did an apt based update |
| [05:21:00] | Chutt: | i've had more problems updating debian |
| [05:21:00] | ** GreyFoxx hasn't update the distro on phaze.org in 5 years :) ** | |
| [05:21:00] | hadees: | Chutt, do use apt for mythtv? |
| [05:21:00] | Chutt: | hah |
| [05:21:00] | Chutt: | no |
| [05:21:00] | jasoncohen: | Chutt, you use debian? |
| [05:21:00] | Chutt: | yeah |
| [05:21:00] | jasoncohen: | GreyFoxx, what distro? |
| [05:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | Slackware |
| [05:21:00] | Chutt: | though one of my machine's uses ubuntu |
| [05:21:00] | jasoncohen: | ah, my mistake- i asked you before |
| [05:21:00] | Chutt: | and i'll be installing ubuntu on my new machine next week |
| [05:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | I update any network facing processes, and the kernel anytime a local exploit comes out |
| [05:21:00] | Chutt: | i _had_ a debian install from '96 that was always running current unstable |
| [05:21:00] | hadees: | GreyFoxx, i hope that doesn't include security updates |
| [05:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I have had no reason to do full updates |
| [05:22:00] | jasoncohen: | wow...gentoo already has KDE 3.4.1? |
| [05:22:00] | Chutt: | but the harddrive died last summer :( |
| [05:22:00] | mchou: | I tried kubuntu on live cd and was not impressed. Crashed too. |
| [05:22:00] | JonK: | I'm watching a lifetime movie about teenagers addicted to internet porn |
| [05:22:00] | jasoncohen: | Chutt, what did you use it for? |
| [05:22:00] | JonK: | it's like an afterschool special written by oprah |
| [05:22:00] | Chutt: | everything |
| [05:22:00] | mchou: | JonK: haha, mighty fine taste you got there :) |
| [05:22:00] | hadees: | JonK, are they using PSP porn? if you use that i think you got problems |
| [05:23:00] | hadees: | should come with a splater guard |
| [05:23:00] | Chutt: | was the mythtv dev box for a while |
| [05:23:00] | jasoncohen: | Chutt, #debian really tries to push people away from sid but testing takes forever to get security updates and sid hasn't caused me problems |
| [05:23:00] | JonK: | dooo doo doo stage too |
| [05:23:00] | Chutt: | yeah |
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| [05:23:00] | Chutt: | "don't use unstable if you don't want stuff to break" |
| [05:23:00] | Chutt: | "unstable's not for users" |
| [05:23:00] | JonK: | I don't think I could act in this... I could not keep a straight face |
| [05:23:00] | Chutt: | "oh, if you want that, you'll have to use unstable" |
| [05:24:00] | jasoncohen: | and wtf is up with security.debian.org- they haven't updated any packages for over 3 weeks and there a are several vulnerable packages including a critical exploit on sudo |
| [05:24:00] | bluesdogg: | just for reference, i had made a mistake with my chmod, didn't have the captures subdirectory writable by non-root people..changed that and it works.. i can run mythbackend from a regular user account fine now |
| [05:24:00] | JonK: | oh no mom's about to bust him looking at boobies |
| [05:24:00] | jasoncohen: | Chutt, they just don't like newbies who use sid and bitch about it breaking |
| [05:25:00] | Chutt: | they don't like people who've been using it for ten years and bitch about it breaking, either =) |
| [05:25:00] | jasoncohen: | heh, so no bitching then |
| [05:25:00] | JonK: | my god it's so bad, i think it's going to give me cancer |
| [05:25:00] | JonK: | cyberseduction: his secret life |
| [05:25:00] | jasoncohen: | Chutt, have you noticed that fam is missing a dependency – libfam0c102 i believe and if you do apt-get install fam on sid it tries to uninstall several hundred packages including all of KDE & GNOME? |
| [05:25:00] | Chutt: | debian's too political, really |
| [05:26:00] | Chutt: | naw, i haven't done my weekly update recently |
| [05:26:00] | Chutt: | been out of town |
| [05:26:00] | hadees: | its the gnu nazis |
| [05:26:00] | hadees: | gnu is like the religious right of OS |
| [05:26:00] | Chutt: | haha |
| [05:26:00] | jasoncohen: | ubuntu looks nice but hoary is missing packages i use and it trashed my mdk install so i'm still pissed at it- i'll wait for breezy |
| [05:26:00] | Chutt: | yeah |
| [05:27:00] | mchou: | hadees: you mean the "left" |
| [05:27:00] | hadees: | mchou, i was refering to tatics |
| [05:28:00] | jasoncohen: | heh, like the RC bugs on packages that are using the DFSG and therefore must go to non-free! |
| [05:28:00] | jasoncohen: | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=280803 |
| [05:28:00] | Chutt: | debian might get xorg in a year or two, though, so i'm all ramped up about that! |
| [05:28:00] | mchou: | haha!! |
| [05:29:00] | jasoncohen: | hey, i'm using gnome 2.10 on sid, heh |
| [05:29:00] | hadees: | i guess they are rebeling against linux desktops |
| [05:29:00] | jasoncohen: | 2.10.1 actually |
| [05:29:00] | jasoncohen: | nothing like a debian stable system though...set it up and forget about it (with automated security updates) – works great |
| [05:29:00] | hadees: | i still don't gut why xfree did that |
| [05:29:00] | hadees: | it tank itself |
| [05:29:00] | hadees: | tanked |
| [05:30:00] | jasoncohen: | so, is gentoo targeted at desktop users? |
| [05:30:00] | hadees: | it is targeted to everything |
| [05:30:00] | JonK: | finally! |
| [05:30:00] | JonK: | compile complete |
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| [05:31:00] | jasoncohen: | hadees, how can you use it as a server unless you do what cardoe does and have a central server to compile binary security updates? |
| [05:31:00] | joev: | yheah...but will it boot :) |
| [05:31:00] | jasoncohen: | it just seems that debian is much easier to maintain as a server because it has a stable base for quite a long time with security support backported |
| [05:31:00] | JonK: | still need to install and load it into grub |
| [05:31:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, i just sync up with the repository |
| [05:31:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, he does that not for security but to keep things stable |
| [05:32:00] | hadees: | jasoncohen, thats just over doing it because he is selling them |
| [05:32:00] | Chutt: | seems like more work for multiple servers |
| [05:32:00] | hadees: | it really isn't what a normal home user would do |
| [05:32:00] | jasoncohen: | he updates to keep it stable? |
| [05:32:00] | jasoncohen: | usually things are stable because they aren't updated- you fix the bugs until it's stable and then backport security |
| [05:32:00] | hadees: | Chutt, could be really simple if they are all very similar |
| [05:33:00] | JonK: | installing modules |
| [05:33:00] | JonK: | .... |
| [05:33:00] | Chutt: | but you'd be doing essentially what he said |
| [05:33:00] | JonK: | ooh look at all those media/dvb modules fly by |
| [05:34:00] | joev: | anyone know why transport would be an unavailable option under scan type? |
| [05:34:00] | hadees: | Chutt, oh you mean my home servers? i mean mabey ever once in a while i get a conflict, the inital time is just invested in installing once |
| [05:34:00] | hadees: | then a simple emerge -vuD world |
| [05:34:00] | Chutt: | well, any group of machines |
| [05:34:00] | Chutt: | i dunno |
| [05:35:00] | Chutt: | i don't see the attraction =) |
| [05:35:00] | hadees: | updates everything and every thing that depend on it |
| [05:35:00] | hadees: | Chutt, its more of a BSD way of doing installs |
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| [05:36:00] | Chutt: | oh, so, the lesson for today is: don't order stuff from tigerdirect |
| [05:37:00] | Ashlar: | pfft, who hasn't learned that one yet? sucker ;) |
| [05:37:00] | JonK: | apparently chutt |
| [05:37:00] | Chutt: | i wonder if that cpu is still listed as in stock |
| [05:37:00] | Chutt: | they were the only ones with a 4400+ last night :( |
| [05:37:00] | mchou: | heh, speaking of BSD, didnt De Raadt call linux "garbage" recently? |
| [05:37:00] | Chutt: | well, only ones _saying_ they had a 4400+ in stock |
| [05:37:00] | mchou: | Chutt: 4400+? Nice :) |
| [05:38:00] | hadees: | mchou, yeah, it was more of a openbsd is the best rant |
| [05:38:00] | Chutt: | they didn't actually |
| [05:38:00] | Chutt: | but didn't bother updating their website |
| [05:38:00] | Ashlar: | theo can bit my left nut |
| [05:38:00] | mchou: | Chutt: that's gonna be your new machine? 4400+? |
| [05:38:00] | Chutt: | yeah |
| [05:38:00] | Chutt: | mwave shipped the cpu out today |
| [05:38:00] | Chutt: | everything else was already on its way |
| [05:39:00] | mchou: | Chutt: what m/b did you get for it? |
| [05:39:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou, heh, i think i heard that as well |
| [05:39:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou, probably just jealous :) |
| [05:39:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/06/17/de_ra . . . els_ballmer/ |
| [05:39:00] | Chutt: | asus a8n-sli premium |
| [05:40:00] | jasoncohen: | and what does openbsd support? |
| [05:40:00] | Chutt: | antec p180 case (which is quite neat) |
| [05:40:00] | mchou: | Chutt: you actually gonna get 2 vid cards too? :) |
| [05:40:00] | jasoncohen: | isnt' their networking support crap/non-existent? |
| [05:40:00] | Chutt: | and the usually randomass other stuff |
| [05:40:00] | Chutt: | naw, just a 6600gt for now |
| [05:40:00] | JonK: | ok... joev... im getting confused, what to do with the shiny new kernel |
| [05:40:00] | JonK: | ks |
| [05:40:00] | hadees: | anyone else use atechfabrication.com cases or know anyone else who does? |
| [05:40:00] | joev: | did it boot? |
| [05:41:00] | JonK: | installing... |
| [05:41:00] | Chutt: | i was really impressed with some of the stuff on the p180 |
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| [05:41:00] | JonK: | but the guide is for lilo, not sure how to add it for gurb |
| [05:41:00] | JonK: | grub |
| [05:41:00] | Chutt: | like, there's a little strip of foam on the bar that goes across the case, where it would touch the side panels |
| [05:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | hadees: I've been drooling over those for a couple years now :) |
| [05:42:00] | Chutt: | just to keep it from rattling. there aren't any metal on metal joints that aren't riveted/etc |
| [05:42:00] | mchou: | Chutt: damn, that's one monstrous looking case. |
| [05:42:00] | Chutt: | yeah, it's kinda big |
| [05:42:00] | Chutt: | i'm worried that the axt12v connector will reach, actually :( |
| [05:43:00] | Chutt: | don't have the power supply yet, so i may get a fun little surprise when that shows up |
| [05:43:00] | mchou: | haha!! |
| [05:43:00] | hadees: | GreyFoxx, i got one from the 3rd batch of them, i love the powermate but i man the second vga touch screen in the face plate would be cool to use |
| [05:44:00] | joev: | if I deselect visble in the channel editor, will that make those channels not show up in my guide? |
| [05:44:00] | Chutt: | yup |
| [05:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm very interested in one (not the ones with the screen, though I can see how that would be nifty). just can't justify the cash |
| [05:44:00] | Chutt: | hadees, isn't aluminum kindof rattlely? |
| [05:45:00] | joev: | what does rank do? |
| [05:45:00] | JonK: | and the reboot |
| [05:45:00] | Ashlar: | makes you more cool? |
| [05:45:00] | hadees: | Chutt, nope, i have one of the earlyer ones, they are better now, its so quiet |
| [05:46:00] | Chutt: | that's cool |
| [05:46:00] | joev: | and tv format, default or atsc? |
| [05:46:00] | mchou: | I think the old dell (picasso) cases are quiet as heck. Nothing beats plastic (as case material) for damping sounds :) |
| [05:46:00] | Randall64: | I'm convinced this rage pro can drive my display at 1680x1050. |
| [05:46:00] | hadees: | Chutt, http://www.atechfabrication.com/products/heatsync_6000.htm this one has these two heat sinks you can get that take the heat to the case wall |
| [05:46:00] | hadees: | one for the cpu and one for the video card |
| [05:47:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [05:47:00] | hadees: | then it uses negitive presure to draw air over the vga card to cool it also |
| [05:47:00] | Chutt: | i wouldn't have enough room in my stereo rack for something like that |
| [05:47:00] | mchou: | I think atech is way overpriced...... |
| [05:47:00] | hadees: | Chutt, man it is rack mountable too |
| [05:47:00] | mchou: | as nice as it is. |
| [05:48:00] | Ashlar: | if money were no object.. |
| [05:48:00] | Chutt: | yeah, but you'd need lots of space around it |
| [05:48:00] | hadees: | well the nice thing about it is you can always go back and just get an updated face plate for what ever |
| [05:48:00] | mchou: | if money were no object I can design a better case than atech :) |
| [05:48:00] | hadees: | i plan on using mine for alot of htpcs |
| [05:48:00] | hadees: | i am on my second mother board |
| [05:49:00] | Chutt: | only a 92mm fan? |
| [05:49:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [05:49:00] | joev: | i kinda like my lianli |
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| [05:49:00] | hadees: | Chutt, be carefull of his modified power supplys though |
| [05:49:00] | Chutt: | hadees, running a fanless powersupply in it? |
| [05:49:00] | hadees: | i had a problem with mine |
| [05:49:00] | Chutt: | oh, i'm not buying one : |
| [05:49:00] | mchou: | haha! |
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| [05:50:00] | hadees: | Chutt, you should put it up as a donation goal |
| [05:50:00] | mchou: | nice. a freebie,eh? |
| [05:50:00] | hadees: | i'll donate |
| [05:50:00] | Chutt: | naw |
| [05:50:00] | JonK: | well that was sub-optimal |
| [05:50:00] | JeepJerk: | heyo |
| [05:50:00] | Chutt: | i like my little aria for my myth box in the theater room |
| [05:50:00] | JeepJerk: | anyone here at FC4? |
| [05:50:00] | JonK: | fudcon4? |
| [05:50:00] | joev: | settings for tv format default or atsc, rank number? |
| [05:50:00] | hadees: | Chutt, i know how you can get a freebie, write an article for a tech site and just use that as the case |
| [05:50:00] | JeepJerk: | JonK: something like that |
| [05:50:00] | joev: | what happened JonK? |
| [05:51:00] | JeepJerk: | trying to decide if i should go with apt or yum |
| [05:51:00] | Chutt: | i don't like getting free hardware |
| [05:51:00] | hadees: | get it with the mini vga screen |
| [05:51:00] | JonK: | shortly after selecting 2.6.12 -- |
| [05:51:00] | JonK: | nothing |
| [05:51:00] | JonK: | nothing happened |
| [05:52:00] | joev: | did you make the bzImage and set up all the sym links? |
| [05:52:00] | hadees: | Chutt, eh your not a cop, plus it would be worth it so see what could be done with the mini touch vga screen |
| [05:52:00] | joev: | initrd? |
| [05:52:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [05:52:00] | Chutt: | i'd get annoyed at the light spill of the lcd |
| [05:52:00] | Chutt: | i like it completely dark when i'm watching stuff |
| [05:52:00] | hadees: | have it go off then after a set time, i wonder if you could convert a vga screen to touch |
| [05:52:00] | hadees: | the playstation screens are cheap |
| [05:52:00] | hadees: | and are simple to mod to vga |
| [05:52:00] | Chutt: | probably – i used to have an add-on touch screen for a laptop |
| [05:53:00] | hadees: | and like $15 |
| [05:53:00] | Chutt: | thing just sat on top of the laptop's display |
| [05:53:00] | mchou: | Chutt: I like the "grenade pins" in p180 :) |
| [05:53:00] | Chutt: | yeah |
| [05:53:00] | Chutt: | _and_ they've got little clips to keep them from rattling |
| [05:53:00] | Chutt: | it's really well thought out |
| [05:54:00] | Chutt: | except for the power supply wire length issues |
| [05:54:00] | Chutt: | and only $120, not $600 =) |
| [05:54:00] | mchou: | you can prob get an extender for that, I'd think...... |
| [05:54:00] | joev: | I always run make clean bzImage, make modules, INSTALL_PATH= /boot make install, make modules_install |
| [05:54:00] | Chutt: | i've found _one_ place that has one of those 4pin atx12v extenders |
| [05:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | hadees: You don't even need to mod it. Just use the TVout from your video card right into the ps screen :) |
| [05:55:00] | Chutt: | 'course, i could just cut the wires and make my own |
| [05:55:00] | hadees: | GreyFoxx, yeah but the other one is a touch screen |
| [05:55:00] | mchou: | Chutt: yeah, that too :) |
| [05:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | You were last talking about a playstation screen, so I was only referring to that :) |
| [05:56:00] | Chutt: | i wonder how hard it'd be to make myth display the non-video parts of the ui on two screens |
| [05:56:00] | joev: | not sure |
| [05:57:00] | joev: | do you have a bzImage and initrd? |
| [05:57:00] | Ashlar: | that would be sweet.. I have a 7" automotive monitor that would work great for that |
| [05:57:00] | Chutt: | though, it'd be better to have it be two separate instances |
| [05:57:00] | JonK: | chutt — that's kind of what i have in mind for the pda |
| [05:57:00] | Chutt: | so you could separate em (ie., same thing would work for a pda) |
| [05:57:00] | Chutt: | hehe |
| [05:58:00] | hadees: | Chutt, i thought of that too |
| [05:58:00] | hadees: | you just need xinerama |
| [05:58:00] | Ashlar: | would be cool for mythmusic, too.. |
| [05:58:00] | JonK: | if i ever get done with the freaking samba code |
| [05:58:00] | Chutt: | naw, no xinerama |
| [05:58:00] | hadees: | cause of xv |
| [05:58:00] | hadees: | what can't it use it? |
| [05:59:00] | Chutt: | normal dual head'd work fine |
| [05:59:00] | Chutt: | you're not spanning the display |
| [05:59:00] | JonK: | i was more thinking of just hooking into the database and then scripting remote commands |
| [05:59:00] | Chutt: | naw |
| [06:00:00] | Chutt: | would want more interaction than that |
| [06:00:00] | JonK: | that's waht you said earlier |
| [06:00:00] | Chutt: | yup |
| [06:01:00] | hadees: | Chutt, this is perfect, http://www.promixis.com/products.php?section=netremote |
| [06:01:00] | hadees: | it is a pronto clone |
| [06:01:00] | hadees: | for pdas |
| [06:01:00] | Chutt: | yeah, but using it as just a remote is a waste, i think |
| [06:01:00] | hadees: | but it costs $20 |
| [06:01:00] | Chutt: | really want two way communication |
| [06:01:00] | hadees: | it can do that |
| [06:01:00] | hadees: | over wifi |
| [06:01:00] | Ashlar: | isn't that what that mythwifi plugin is? |
| [06:02:00] | Chutt: | pretty much |
| [06:02:00] | hadees: | Ashlar, sort of, its just a way to do it |
| [06:02:00] | hadees: | i think you need a better way then a web browser |
| [06:02:00] | hadees: | have you ever seen the Mozilla UI? |
| [06:03:00] | hadees: | XUL |
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| [06:03:00] | hadees: | that could run as a thin client inside firefox |
| [06:03:00] | Ashlar: | interesting |
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| [06:05:00] | hadees: | oh how sick would this be, http://www.wedgwood-group.com/plasma_screen_overlays.htm |
| [06:05:00] | hadees: | touch screen overlay for a plasma screen tv |
| [06:07:00] | Ashlar: | pshaw.. like I want to get my butt off the couch |
| [06:07:00] | Ashlar: | ;) |
| [06:07:00] | hadees: | Ashlar, think about like a security system though |
| [06:08:00] | Ashlar: | yah, would be cool |
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| [06:13:00] | joev: | well, i'm ouuta here for tonight |
| [06:13:00] | joev: | maybe tomorrow some will be able to help with this dvb channel scanning issue |
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| [06:17:00] | JonK: | hello? |
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| [06:19:00] | hadees: | hi |
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| [06:25:00] | JonK: | i assume kernel panic is a bad thing |
| [06:25:00] | JonK: | lol |
| [06:25:00] | JonK: | where'd i put that hoary hedgehog cd? |
| [06:42:00] | smoke_: | how do i get the plugins to work with amd64? |
| [06:43:00] | smoke_: | err compile? |
| [06:46:00] | bluesdogg: | dear me... i'm having issues |
| [06:47:00] | bluesdogg: | everytime i reboot, i have to manually load the driver for my tv card, start the remote service.e.tc... did i miss a step somewhere in the guide? |
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| [06:50:00] | Cardoe: | smoke_: what distro? |
| [06:51:00] | bluesdogg: | FC3 |
| [06:52:00] | bluesdogg: | do i have to do something special to make them load on startup? i mean they load fine when i load them manually (i'm having issues inside of myth, but first things first) |
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| [06:52:00] | JeepJerk: | anyone know a repo for ivtv on FC4? |
| [06:53:00] | Randall64: | I dunno, but I think fedora should definitely be repo'd. |
| [06:54:00] | JeepJerk: | right, but where? |
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| [06:57:00] | bluesdogg: | anyone help? |
| [06:59:00] | Ashlar: | sorry, dunno FCx |
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| [06:59:00] | JeepJerk: | modprobe.conf |
| [06:59:00] | JeepJerk: | bluesdogg |
| [06:59:00] | JeepJerk: | check it out |
| [07:00:00] | bluesdogg: | i did, everything looks to be there |
| [07:00:00] | bluesdogg: | i added all the stuff the guide said to add |
| [07:00:00] | JeepJerk: | if its in there and its not loading then something is wrong with the driver |
| [07:00:00] | smoke_: | cardoe im using gentoo but i dont want to emerge it |
| [07:00:00] | JeepJerk: | does "dmesg" give you any clues? |
| [07:01:00] | bluesdogg: | let me see what it spits out.. its odd.. because if i manually start the driver and stuff, i can cat video off of it |
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| [07:03:00] | bluesdogg: | hmm, is it rude to cut and paste from dmesg to here? |
| [07:04:00] | Ashlar: | pastebin |
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| [07:04:00] | monsoon: | hi |
| [07:04:00] | Cardoe: | smoke_: ok. why not? |
| [07:05:00] | JeepJerk: | bluesdogg: use the pastebin |
| [07:06:00] | bluesdogg: | sorry, i'm a newb...pastebin? |
| [07:06:00] | monsoon: | after installing knoppmythtv is it supposed to run off the cd? or the hdd? (mines not booting of hdd) |
| [07:06:00] | JeepJerk: | bluesdogg read the topic |
| [07:06:00] | Ashlar: | monsoon: come over to #knoppmyth ... but it will do either.. if you did install, eject the CD |
| [07:08:00] | bluesdogg: | what am i supposed to be seeing? |
| [07:08:00] | JeepJerk: | oh, I'm in the wrong room sorry |
| [07:08:00] | JeepJerk: | :P |
| [07:08:00] | smoke_: | cardoe cuz i compiled myth myself |
| [07:08:00] | JeepJerk: | I dunno if mythtv has a pastebin |
| [07:08:00] | Ashlar: | http://pastebin.com/ |
| [07:09:00] | JeepJerk: | yeah, thats the ticket |
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| [07:10:00] | blues2: | Ok, logged in from my myth box |
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| [07:11:00] | blues2: | ok... i had missed a step where he talkeda bout loading the modules with a small hack to a file in udev |
| [07:11:00] | blues2: | i think they are loading correctly now |
| [07:12:00] | quink: | any interesting mythtv news? i haven't really checked into this for a month or more now |
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| [07:13:00] | Cardoe: | smoke_: well then compile the plugins yourself. |
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| [07:15:00] | smoke_: | cardoe i tried but it says its not compatible with x86_64 ... |
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| [07:17:00] | JonK: | let me confirm: kernel panic != good thing |
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| [07:19:00] | GotD0t: | JonK: no... kernel panic == very bad thing |
| [07:19:00] | JonK: | lol |
| [07:19:00] | JonK: | where did I put that hoary hedgehog cd... |
| [07:19:00] | GotD0t: | uhh |
| [07:19:00] | GotD0t: | cant help with that one |
| [07:20:00] | kibbles: | i'm confused... i can manually access the database using mysql -p, but when i start mythfrontend, it gives me the "access denied: using password (YES)" error... anyone know what's wrong? |
| [07:21:00] | briand: | sounds like you either didn't set a root password in mysql, or you forgot to tell mythtv about it |
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| [07:21:00] | JonK: | well, at least i could boot with the ubunutu cd, and managed to grab a copy of mythconverg |
| [07:21:00] | JonK: | time to start over... |
| [07:21:00] | kibbles: | i correctly filled out the password field |
| [07:22:00] | JonK: | not hte password kibble, you may need to grant access permissions to the mythtv user |
| [07:22:00] | kibbles: | i'm just trying to run it as root at the moment |
| [07:22:00] | briand: | yes... next question was whether you initialized the database after you set that password |
| [07:23:00] | kibbles: | running mythfrontend as root, that is |
| [07:23:00] | briand: | i'll be back in a min or so.. need to recycle this Xwindows session |
| [07:23:00] | briand: | ouch.. you realize that running X as root is a no-no, right? |
| [07:23:00] | JonK: | kibbles linux user permissions are differnt than mysql user permissions |
| [07:23:00] | briand: | not recommended, generally, and usually more trouble than it's worth. |
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| [07:23:00] | JonK: | speaking personally, just borked whole system |
| [07:23:00] | JonK: | "kernel panic" |
| [07:24:00] | briand: | ouch. howd' you do that, Jonk? |
| [07:24:00] | JonK: | be careful with root |
| [07:24:00] | kibbles: | i'm aware of that, but i'm just trying to get it working, then make it good |
| [07:24:00] | blues2: | ok..so i get into myth..and say "watch tv" it starts tv feed..and goes to open the program guide and i get: 2005-06–25 01:13:58.257 ReadStringList: Bad socket |
| [07:24:00] | blues2: | Remote encoder not responding. |
| [07:24:00] | blues2: | Segmentation fault |
| [07:24:00] | JeepJerk: | you have gdb? |
| [07:24:00] | JeepJerk: | thats the next step |
| [07:24:00] | briand: | back in a min |
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| [07:25:00] | JeepJerk: | recompile in debug and then backtrace in gdb after the seg fault |
| [07:25:00] | JonK: | briand, was trying to upgrade to 2.6.12 |
| [07:25:00] | blues2: | don't think it has seomthing to do with the whole "remote encoder not responding" thing? |
| [07:26:00] | JeepJerk: | I dunno, even still it shouldn't seg fault |
| [07:27:00] | JonK: | but suspect the beer may have something to do with it |
| [07:27:00] | JonK: | now ... after init.rd ... uncompressing the kernel.. |
| [07:27:00] | JonK: | kernel panic |
| [07:27:00] | JonK: | thta's bad right? |
| [07:27:00] | JonK: | lol |
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| [07:32:00] | hadees: | whats that companies website that is working on mythtv? |
| [07:34:00] | kibbles: | mythconverg is the only db that mythtv sets up, right? |
| [07:35:00] | mchou: | anybody seen a good deal on >=300GB drive lately? |
| [07:36:00] | briand: | newegg.com has a decent deal on a 350 (or was it 320?) |
| [07:36:00] | mchou: | briand: rememeber how much? |
| [07:36:00] | blues2: | zipzoomfly as well |
| [07:40:00] | mchou: | frys has 120GB for $20 after rebates. nice $/GB but drive too small :( |
| [07:41:00] | briand: | mchou: seems like i remember $120 or thereabouts? |
| [07:41:00] | mchou: | yeah, $119 for 320GB |
| [07:41:00] | briand: | it was on one of the 4 pages of dals |
| [07:41:00] | briand: | er, deals |
| [07:41:00] | briand: | yeah, that's it. |
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| [07:47:00] | briand: | mchou: are you building another mythtv setup, or expanding one? |
| [07:47:00] | mchou: | nah, just trying to extend my backend storage. |
| [07:47:00] | briand: | cool |
| [07:47:00] | briand: | i've got a 300G in my Pundit right now.. |
| [07:47:00] | mchou: | I've got 4 mythboxen here already. |
| [07:48:00] | briand: | no room in there for more drives... but I have a dual celeron mb with 8 IDE interfaces built-in... so there's room for 16 new drives on the network, eventually |
| [07:48:00] | briand: | that'll probably be my next (long term) project... |
| [07:48:00] | mchou: | having consolidated storage is nice. |
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| [07:49:00] | briand: | not for consolidation, per se.. but I can set 'em up as an LVM, and NFS mount it from the myth box. |
| [07:49:00] | mchou: | briand: it's almost getting to the point that I'm debating to run diskless (on clients) |
| [07:49:00] | briand: | and, at the same time, maybe put some of the post-processing chores off on another processor |
| [07:50:00] | blues2: | this si maddening .. i get 1 second of video..then it crashes |
| [07:50:00] | briand: | diskless? you gonna netboot linux, then? |
| [07:50:00] | mchou: | briand: yeah, thinking about it. |
| [07:50:00] | mchou: | swap might be a bit problematic :) |
| [07:50:00] | briand: | sounds like a project... |
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| [07:51:00] | kibbles: | so how do i manage my mysql user accounts? is there a command line tool? |
| [07:51:00] | briand: | that and different architecture in different clients... can get hairy |
| [07:51:00] | kibbles: | or do you do it mysql? |
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| [07:51:00] | briand: | usually, you do it in mysql |
| [07:52:00] | briand: | if you've installed PHP support and apache, you can do it through MySQLAdmin or PHPMyAdmin, or whatever it's called |
| [07:52:00] | briand: | (i don't use it, so I don't remember what it's called) |
| [07:52:00] | kibbles: | i'm still confused by this... i mean i can type mysql -u root -p mythconverg and get in, but when i run mythfrontend as root, and tell it to connect to mysql as root user, i get access denied |
| [07:52:00] | mchou: | nah, myslclient works fine too. (no php or apache needed) |
| [07:53:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [07:53:00] | mchou: | you shouldnt really be running myth as root anyways |
| [07:54:00] | briand: | that should be the third time he's been warned about that.... |
| [07:54:00] | ** briand grins ** | |
| [07:54:00] | kibbles: | i'm aware of that, but in any case it's irrelevant |
| [07:55:00] | kibbles: | should i just reinstall mysql and start this business from scratch? |
| [07:55:00] | mchou: | nope |
| [07:55:00] | briand: | it sounds like mysql is installed just fine. |
| [07:55:00] | mchou: | you should rtfm on myth |
| [07:55:00] | slide23: | wow, to get all the stuff im for this mythtv box its going to install 118 packages lol |
| [07:56:00] | mchou: | huh??? |
| [07:56:00] | briand: | slide23: yeah, it seems like a lot, but it's not, really |
| [07:56:00] | slide23: | yea =\ |
| [07:56:00] | slide23: | ill just let it go all night, its got some big things in there |
| [07:56:00] | mchou: | I've never had myth install anywhere close to even 20 pkgs, never mind 118. |
| [07:56:00] | kibbles: | mchou: i have. the documentation is skimpy with regard to mysql. if you don't want to help me, then don't. but your attitude is not appreciated |
| [07:56:00] | briand: | dunno what kinda computer you're on, but it took less than 10 minutes on my machine |
| [07:57:00] | slide23: | mchou, with apache2, php5, mod_php5, kde stuff, gnome stuff, mplayer stuff and their dependencies it comes out to be 118 on my box heh |
| [07:57:00] | mchou: | kibbles: "not appreciated." go fsck yourself. |
| [07:58:00] | briand: | mchou: he's installing his system in support of myth... not to the myth package(s) yet |
| [07:58:00] | mchou: | slide23: hehe, well, if you use mythweb, I can see that :) |
| [07:58:00] | slide23: | dont worry kibbles, it also says on the myth website that the geeks in here often get upset easily when posed with questions they feel are too easy |
| [07:58:00] | slide23: | hehe |
| [07:58:00] | mchou: | briand: that's what I was referring to. |
| [07:58:00] | slide23: | mchou, yea ;) |
| [07:58:00] | briand: | incidentally, you don't really need the gnome stuff, slide23 ... unless you like gnome for some reason |
| [07:59:00] | slide23: | hrm, actually im not sure if its installing anything gnome related..shrug |
| [07:59:00] | briand: | you doing a fedora install, slide23 ? |
| [07:59:00] | slide23: | arg, wish the stupid distcc would work again hehe |
| [07:59:00] | slide23: | gentoo |
| [08:00:00] | briand: | ah, k... not familiar with that distro |
| [08:00:00] | slide23: | Im following a howto hehe |
| [08:00:00] | slide23: | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV |
| [08:00:00] | briand: | mchou: besides.. what's wrong with mythweb ??? I love it! that's one of the best parts of mythtv! |
| [08:00:00] | mchou: | briand: too much overhead. |
| [08:01:00] | slide23: | you're too much overhead! |
| [08:01:00] | slide23: | hehe :) |
| [08:01:00] | mchou: | my fav about myth is skipping commercials. |
| [08:01:00] | mchou: | that's enough for me :) |
| [08:01:00] | briand: | ..if i have to be out of town for a few days, I can surf in to my myth box and schedule recordings, resolve conflicts, etc |
| [08:01:00] | briand: | yeah, commercial skipping is nice.. as is pausing 'liveTV' |
| [08:01:00] | mchou: | I do that using ssh. |
| [08:02:00] | mchou: | no need to do it over a web browser. |
| [08:02:00] | blues2: | ok... i've tried googling and i can't seem to find a definitive solution to my problem..but its not totally unique |
| [08:02:00] | Randall64: | So which of you said you were running debian-amd64? |
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| [08:02:00] | blues2: | anyone else here experience "remote encoder not responding" ? |
| [08:02:00] | slide23: | mchou, yea, but we like the pretty stuff :) |
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| [08:03:00] | briand: | mchou: i don't think my processor in my backend/frontend box has ever seen a load above about 15% |
| [08:03:00] | slide23: | ok im going to sleep |
| [08:03:00] | mchou: | briand: hmm??? you obviously dont use hdtv :) |
| [08:03:00] | briand: | 2.0GHz Celeron D Prescott. |
| [08:04:00] | briand: | no, standard television... and a PVR-350, so no need for processor for encode or decode |
| [08:04:00] | mchou: | briand: and CPU util is not what I meant by "overhead" |
| [08:04:00] | briand: | well, it doesn't take up THAT much space. |
| [08:04:00] | mchou: | 118 pkgs on the other hand, is :) |
| [08:05:00] | briand: | I set aside 150M on my 300G disk for everything not video-related |
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| [08:06:00] | briand: | so, there's room for all kinds of stuff for me to experiment/play with |
| [08:06:00] | mchou: | lol, my db is > 115 M :) |
| [08:06:00] | defaultro: | hey mchou |
| [08:06:00] | blues2: | someone shoot me |
| [08:06:00] | mchou: | he defaultro |
| [08:06:00] | mchou: | hey* |
| [08:06:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [08:06:00] | briand: | heh.. well, I only have a cable-tv feed, and only 80 channels on it, at that. |
| [08:06:00] | briand: | so my db is fairly small, relatively speaking |
| [08:06:00] | defaultro: | any updates on mythtv? |
| [08:06:00] | mchou: | updates?? |
| [08:06:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [08:07:00] | mchou: | check out cvs man :) |
| [08:07:00] | defaultro: | i should |
| [08:07:00] | mchou: | or svn. |
| [08:07:00] | defaultro: | read somewhere that caption has been included DVB |
| [08:07:00] | defaultro: | close captioning i mean |
| [08:08:00] | mchou: | maybe. I wouldnt know. |
| [08:08:00] | briand: | still seems somewhat problematic with PVR-350 TV out, though... so I'm waiting to hear how that fares |
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| [08:08:00] | briand: | meanwhile, I don't -need- it... so I'm happy with the 0.18 distribution |
| [08:08:00] | defaultro: | mchou, do you know of any stable or cool surveillance camera solution, opensource based? |
| [08:08:00] | defaultro: | coz I would like to put one or two in front of my house |
| [08:09:00] | briand: | defaultro: interesting question... |
| [08:09:00] | mchou: | defaultro: not really. There is a mythbased solution which I forget atm...... |
| [08:09:00] | defaultro: | briand, know any on top of your head? |
| [08:09:00] | briand: | i have two surplussed videoconferencing cards/cameras that i wanted to use under linux... searching for support for those cards is what allowed me to stumble across MythTV. |
| [08:10:00] | briand: | so, I spent the last few weeks collecting hardware and installing/configuring, etc... |
| [08:10:00] | briand: | haven't gotten back to those cards yet. |
| [08:10:00] | defaultro: | i have create labs but it's only good near 2 ft :( |
| [08:10:00] | defaultro: | creative labs |
| [08:10:00] | defaultro: | what about X10? |
| [08:10:00] | mchou: | defaultro: plutohome.com |
| [08:11:00] | defaultro: | that's for home automation |
| [08:11:00] | defaultro: | let me look again |
| [08:11:00] | briand: | oh.. i was _given_ two brand-new-in-the-box VideoONE Communicator setups... |
| [08:11:00] | mchou: | nah, it says security too. |
| [08:11:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [08:11:00] | briand: | they retail (or retailed???) for ~ $1000 ea. |
| [08:11:00] | blues2: | ok... so i start myth back end... the only thing i see that isn't "ok" looking is: ChannelBase: Could not find input: Television on card when setting channel 3 |
| [08:11:00] | blues2: | ... start front end, loads fine, go to watch televions, and i get 1 second of TV, then it locks, and the error output ig et from the front end is : 2005-06–25 02:09:01.969 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| [08:11:00] | blues2: | 2005-06–25 02:09:02.051 Video timing method: USleep with busy wait |
| [08:11:00] | blues2: | 2005-06–25 02:09:02.887 prebuffering pause |
| [08:11:00] | blues2: | 2005-06–25 02:09:21.972 ReadStringList timeout (quick). |
| [08:11:00] | blues2: | Remote encoder not responding. |
| [08:11:00] | mchou: | defaultro: http://plutohome.com/index.php?section=securi . . . ctLoaded=100 |
| [08:11:00] | blues2: | 2005-06–25 02:09:21.972 WriteStringList: Bad socket |
| [08:11:00] | blues2: | 2005-06–25 02:09:21.973 ReadStringList: Bad socket |
| [08:12:00] | blues2: | Remote encoder not responding. |
| [08:12:00] | briand: | hardware MPEG-2 encoder cards... and nice hi-rez cameras... :) |
| [08:12:00] | blues2: | 2005-06–25 02:09:21.973 WriteStringList: Bad socket |
| [08:12:00] | blues2: | 2005-06–25 02:09:21.973 ReadStringList: Bad socket |
| [08:12:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [08:12:00] | blues2: | Remote encoder not responding. |
| [08:12:00] | blues2: | ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/lib/qt-3.3/include/qvaluelist.h (373) |
| [08:12:00] | blues2: | 2005-06–25 02:09:21.975 WriteStringList: Bad socket |
| [08:12:00] | blues2: | 2005-06–25 02:09:21.975 ReadStringList: Bad socket |
| [08:12:00] | mchou: | blues2: stop flooding |
| [08:12:00] | blues2: | Remote encoder not responding. |
| [08:12:00] | blues2: | 2005-06–25 02:09:22.104 Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None |
| [08:12:00] | blues2: | 2005-06–25 02:09:22.110 Changing from None to None |
| [08:12:00] | defaultro: | mchou, how is your hd card going? |
| [08:12:00] | blues2: | sorry, didn't mean for that to come all at once |
| [08:12:00] | mchou: | I smell a ban |
| [08:12:00] | blues2: | its late, i pasted into the wrong thing, i apologize |
| [08:12:00] | mchou: | blues2: use pastbin for stuff like that. |
| [08:12:00] | mchou: | pastebin* |
| [08:13:00] | blues2: | yeah, i was, i just pasted to the wrong place |
| [08:13:00] | briand: | yeah, anything bigger than a couple lines.. easier to go that route. :) |
| [08:13:00] | mchou: | defaultro: no time to mess with it so far. |
| [08:13:00] | defaultro: | k |
| [08:14:00] | mchou: | and when is the a2pc shipping?? |
| [08:14:00] | mchou: | it's almost july. |
| [08:14:00] | defaultro: | heard 2nd week of july |
| [08:14:00] | defaultro: | i emailed them a week ago |
| [08:14:00] | mchou: | from who? |
| [08:14:00] | defaultro: | bbti |
| [08:14:00] | mchou: | fsckers.... |
| [08:14:00] | defaultro: | but then, he told me to contact cyberestore |
| [08:15:00] | mchou: | I'm seriously pissed with them. |
| [08:15:00] | defaultro: | did you see the post regarding broadcast flag laterly? |
| [08:15:00] | defaultro: | lately |
| [08:15:00] | mchou: | really should just cancel my order. |
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| [08:15:00] | mchou: | defaultro: yeah. |
| [08:16:00] | defaultro: | i'll email plutohome and ask what camera is recommended :) |
| [08:16:00] | mchou: | defaultro: I wrote my senators but maybe it was a bit of an over-reaction. |
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| [08:17:00] | mchou: | defaultro: check out their techie link. |
| [08:17:00] | blues2: | Ok, here in non-bannable form: http://pastebin.com/303733 |
| [08:18:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [08:18:00] | defaultro: | you mean eff.org? |
| [08:19:00] | defaultro: | of pluto :) |
| [08:19:00] | mchou: | eff.org and publicknowledge.org |
| [08:19:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [08:20:00] | mchou: | like they couldn't identify which senator was going to introduce it. |
| [08:20:00] | morphish: | is a mythfrontend only setup nearly as heavy as a full mythtv setup? |
| [08:20:00] | mchou: | so it wasnt all that credible to me...... |
| [08:21:00] | defaultro: | oh k |
| [08:22:00] | defaultro: | i can't reach publicknowledge |
| [08:23:00] | mchou: | they turn their site off >12am for some reason..... |
| [08:23:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [08:23:00] | defaultro: | btw, do you use Solaris? |
| [08:23:00] | mchou: | try them tomorrow > 8am. |
| [08:23:00] | briand: | hmm... this is looking promising: there's a Bt829KPF video decoder chip on the card... maybe ivtv will recognize it and i can PiP my security cams.... |
| [08:23:00] | mchou: | used to. not any more. |
| [08:23:00] | defaultro: | briand, spent 1 week on bt829 :( |
| [08:24:00] | defaultro: | there is a special driver |
| [08:24:00] | defaultro: | site is something like ruleoftheearth.com |
| [08:24:00] | briand: | i have the software (for WinNT)... |
| [08:24:00] | briand: | but i wanna use it in linux, if i can |
| [08:24:00] | mchou: | defaultro: you live in a bad neighborhood or ? |
| [08:24:00] | defaultro: | nope |
| [08:24:00] | defaultro: | very nice neighborhood buy |
| [08:24:00] | defaultro: | but |
| [08:24:00] | defaultro: | lately, 2 incidents |
| [08:25:00] | mchou: | why you need camera surveillane? |
| [08:25:00] | defaultro: | vandalism on mailbox |
| [08:25:00] | defaultro: | on my 2 neighbors |
| [08:25:00] | defaultro: | and mailbox hit by a baseball bat |
| [08:25:00] | blues2: | lol.. the logs for this place show someone named shaya with same problem..and all they said was "fixed" |
| [08:25:00] | mchou: | bah, damn kids. |
| [08:25:00] | briand: | no incidents in my neighborhood (yet), but there are quite a number of young women who go jogging by, every afternoon.... |
| [08:25:00] | defaultro: | and a garage door with the huge go hitler text |
| [08:25:00] | mchou: | haha!! |
| [08:25:00] | mchou: | defaultro: for real? |
| [08:26:00] | monsoon: | does knoppmythtv happen to have a java package? |
| [08:26:00] | defaultro: | oh hell yah, i love those women who jog |
| [08:26:00] | defaultro: | mchou, yep, true |
| [08:26:00] | defaultro: | with the nazi logo |
| [08:26:00] | defaultro: | the neighborhood had a hunch who did it |
| [08:26:00] | defaultro: | school kids |
| [08:26:00] | mchou: | there is no need for camera surv. for joggers. Go jog with them :) |
| [08:26:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [08:26:00] | defaultro: | not them |
| [08:27:00] | defaultro: | but it happens at night |
| [08:27:00] | defaultro: | everyweekend, anna does sunbating |
| [08:27:00] | defaultro: | my neighbor |
| [08:27:00] | defaultro: | hhaah |
| [08:27:00] | briand: | mchou: can't. used to x-country in high school / college.. but now my knees can't take it. I bicycle (used to race)... and I'd end up lapping them too often... |
| [08:27:00] | defaultro: | lol |
| [08:27:00] | briand: | hmm. just read that in another light..... |
| [08:28:00] | briand: | might not be such a bad thing. ;) |
| [08:28:00] | mchou: | briand: what bikes? |
| [08:28:00] | mchou: | used to race myself. |
| [08:28:00] | defaultro: | looks like my area is still conservative |
| [08:28:00] | briand: | I have a Lemond Alpe d'Huez and a BiKyle criterium (my old race bike) |
| [08:28:00] | defaultro: | they still wear bra when they jog, LOL |
| [08:28:00] | mchou: | hmm, nice. |
| [08:29:00] | mchou: | used to race on a De Rosa myself. |
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| [08:29:00] | briand: | nice. :) |
| [08:29:00] | briand: | do you still have the bike? |
| [08:29:00] | mchou: | Flaming Pink. |
| [08:29:00] | defaultro: | i wish they can bike with wet upper shirt :) |
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| [08:29:00] | mchou: | yup. |
| [08:29:00] | briand: | and, do you ride it? |
| [08:29:00] | mchou: | yeah, still do. |
| [08:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey mchou question for ya if you have the time |
| [08:29:00] | mchou: | old dura ace gruppo. |
| [08:30:00] | briand: | there's a mish-mash of equipment on the BiKyle... it's due for a complete overhaul. Want to put a campy ergopower gruppo on it |
| [08:30:00] | mchou: | like 90's vintage dura ace. |
| [08:30:00] | briand: | (which is what's on the lemond) |
| [08:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I was looking at my lirc stuff and I dont see a way to do both my haupagge and irblaster at the same time is that possible? do I have to do something special to use 2 IR devices? |
| [08:30:00] | mchou: | I used to work in a bike shop (when Campy went downhill, Shimano on the scent) |
| [08:31:00] | mchou: | ascent* |
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| [08:31:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: what irblaster? |
| [08:31:00] | briand: | campy never went downhill. bite your tongue! |
| [08:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, I want a greenspeed |
| [08:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, serial one that I got from irblaster.info |
| [08:31:00] | mchou: | briand: yes it did. After Tulio passed away. |
| [08:31:00] | briand: | "friends don't let friends buy shitmano" |
| [08:32:00] | defaultro: | mchou, i'm taking off now. GOod night |
| [08:32:00] | mchou: | briand: now shimano is the shits. |
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| [08:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | grehttp://greenspeed.com.au/NewGSweb/web-cont . . . homeaus.html thats what I want mchou :) |
| [08:32:00] | briand: | yeah, it's better than it used to be... i'll give ya that. |
| [08:32:00] | mchou: | Dura ace shiter go bad after 500 miles. |
| [08:32:00] | briand: | but i like the sleekness of the campy ergopower over the shimano |
| [08:32:00] | mchou: | shifter* |
| [08:33:00] | mchou: | Campy has regained some ground...... |
| [08:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://www.greenspeed.com.au/GTSESRsf768.jpg thats the one I am going to get actually |
| [08:34:00] | mchou: | I like them cause everything is user-replaceable. parts cost a mint though. |
| [08:34:00] | mchou: | (if you can even find them) |
| [08:34:00] | briand: | true |
| [08:34:00] | briand: | you can always order 'em from italy |
| [08:34:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [08:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what do you think mchou ? |
| [08:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | of the greenspeed :) |
| [08:34:00] | briand: | i signed up on their website a few years ago... |
| [08:35:00] | mchou: | be cheaper to get the whole darn thing new :) |
| [08:35:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: ooh, nice. |
| [08:35:00] | briand: | and about 5 months later, i got a nice little gold campy logo pin in the mail from them, right before the start of the tour |
| [08:35:00] | mchou: | I've never ridden a recumb, though. |
| [08:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, yeah I want one that I can just relax in |
| [08:35:00] | mchou: | briand: lol |
| [08:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | awesome man just awesome they go uphill so easy and you can haul ass |
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| [08:35:00] | briand: | can't draft behind 'em, so they can't be real bikes. |
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| [08:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | just watch it on turning too fast cause you can flip the fucker |
| [08:36:00] | briand: | ;) |
| [08:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I did that and beat myself up pretty bad |
| [08:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | testing out the greenspeed I flipped it |
| [08:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | tore up my leg good |
| [08:36:00] | briand: | ouch. |
| [08:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | got caught on the spokes of the front tire :/ |
| [08:37:00] | mchou: | I have the campy 50 anniversary gruppo gold logo everywhere :) |
| [08:37:00] | briand: | i got nudged off the road by a 1978 Monte Carlo... took to the sidewalk... |
| [08:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but I did not know that you cant corner them like a normal bike heh but then again thats why I want the GTS cause its lower you can turn faster |
| [08:37:00] | mchou: | never used, mint condition. |
| [08:37:00] | briand: | bike nestled itself quite neatly into the little ridge between grass & sidewalk, newton's third law demanded that I continue on past that point. |
| [08:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | briand, when I was 13 I flew off into a ditch in new mexico and hit a drainpipe went over the handlebars and smashed my face into concrete no helmet helps with that :P |
| [08:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha newtons 3rd law |
| [08:38:00] | mchou: | ouch!!! |
| [08:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | damn that law |
| [08:38:00] | briand: | landed atop a split-rail fence. slid across that until i face-planted the upright post. |
| [08:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, yeah it hurt like shit I bent my damn fork on my bike it was toast |
| [08:38:00] | briand: | broke nose, several teeth, and bicycle. |
| [08:38:00] | briand: | walked home 2.5 miles. |
| [08:39:00] | briand: | well, limped, really. |
| [08:39:00] | mchou: | new mexico??? |
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| [08:39:00] | briand: | had a nice welt from the top of that fence... went from upper right thigh to my left shoulder... and all filled with several splinters. |
| [08:39:00] | mchou: | can you ride bikes there w/o getting flats and being run off the road? |
| [08:40:00] | mchou: | nasty. |
| [08:40:00] | briand: | yep.. that was a short 1/2 hour pre-dinner ride. |
| [08:40:00] | briand: | surprised the hell outta my mom when I got home 2 hours later... |
| [08:40:00] | mchou: | I'm glad to say the only accident I've had was broadsiding a car (car ran throug red light) |
| [08:40:00] | blahblahblah: | hello all... is the lircrc file particular to mythtv, or is a different one required for each remote? I'm having trouble getting my remote to work, trying to figure out the problem.. |
| [08:41:00] | mchou: | got $8K outta that accident. |
| [08:41:00] | mchou: | and I didnt even have to go to the hospital :) |
| [08:41:00] | briand: | i got nothing but an overnight in ER, several weeks recovery, then every day at the dentist's office for 2.5 weeks straight. |
| [08:41:00] | mchou: | ouch!!! |
| [08:42:00] | briand: | driver never stopped. eyewitnesses "never saw anything" |
| [08:42:00] | mchou: | jaw reconstruction? |
| [08:42:00] | briand: | nope... jaw was fine. |
| [08:42:00] | briand: | three teeth broken off at gum line, several others cracked. |
| [08:42:00] | mchou: | nasty. |
| [08:42:00] | briand: | yeah, i stopped riding for about 3 years after that |
| [08:42:00] | morphish: | 'night |
| [08:42:00] | mchou: | still got back on the horse after that? |
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| [08:42:00] | briand: | friends talked be mack into it. |
| [08:43:00] | briand: | s/be mack/me back/ |
| [08:43:00] | mchou: | 3 yrs is a long time off the bike. |
| [08:43:00] | briand: | yup |
| [08:43:00] | briand: | that's when i bought the alpe d'huez |
| [08:43:00] | briand: | and moved from ny to fl |
| [08:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, what I hit was http://www.amafca.org/ one of those fuckers I got drove off into it |
| [08:43:00] | mchou: | heh, nyc? |
| [08:43:00] | briand: | so i can cycle year round in (relative) comfort |
| [08:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | cept it was not floodying |
| [08:43:00] | briand: | nope. upstate ny |
| [08:44:00] | mchou: | briand: I grey up in NYC :) |
| [08:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://www.amafca.org/Floods%20posted%20on%20 . . . ouisiana.JPG one of those outlet tubes you see there I hit it sucked |
| [08:44:00] | briand: | i grew up just a tad north of Saratoga |
| [08:44:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: for real? |
| [08:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yep |
| [08:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am serious |
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| [08:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | fucked me up good |
| [08:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | smashed my face bad |
| [08:44:00] | mchou: | briand: nice. |
| [08:45:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: yeah, I can Imagine. |
| [08:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://www.amafca.org/Floods%20posted%20on%20 . . . 20Bridge.jpg it was about that steep though like that |
| [08:45:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: how old were you when this happened? |
| [08:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and hit a tube |
| [08:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | 13 |
| [08:45:00] | briand: | mchou: if you don't mind my asking... how old are you? |
| [08:45:00] | mchou: | ouch. Probably scared your parents shitless. |
| [08:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I guess that was 10 years ago now... lol |
| [08:45:00] | mchou: | briand: 30. |
| [08:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, yeah it did |
| [08:46:00] | briand: | 42 |
| [08:46:00] | briand: | so, you missed out riding the dupont when it was up there... |
| [08:46:00] | mchou: | briand: yeah, I did. |
| [08:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, yeah flying over your handlebars and smashing your face so hard that everything smells like peanuts is not good |
| [08:47:00] | mchou: | but I do remember attending a classic race in NYC where lemod and phil anderson were riding..... |
| [08:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats the only thing I can discribe is peanut smell |
| [08:47:00] | briand: | mchou: cool. |
| [08:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | screws up your sensory stuff so I guess thats why I was smelling peanuts |
| [08:47:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: yeah, I know what you mean. Broken blood vessells inside nose smell :) |
| [08:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah exactly |
| [08:47:00] | briand: | i never met lemond in person.. have ridden (socially) with armstrong |
| [08:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, what dont kill you makes you stronger aye? |
| [08:48:00] | mchou: | I met lemond and his wie :) |
| [08:48:00] | mchou: | wife* |
| [08:48:00] | mchou: | this was b4 hunting accident, I think. |
| [08:48:00] | mchou: | I also met eddie merckx. |
| [08:48:00] | briand: | damn.. you must've been a young-un at the time, then |
| [08:49:00] | mchou: | the dude is super fat. |
| [08:49:00] | briand: | yep.. i've met merckx as well. |
| [08:49:00] | mchou: | yeah. |
| [08:49:00] | briand: | and smokes like a chimney! |
| [08:49:00] | mchou: | yeah. |
| [08:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, so you worked at a bike store? how long ago? |
| [08:49:00] | mchou: | I'm surprised he is not diabetic. |
| [08:49:00] | mchou: | mid 80's |
| [08:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ahh ok |
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| [08:50:00] | mchou: | I've never met armstrong. |
| [08:50:00] | mchou: | think he is gonna win a 7th? |
| [08:51:00] | mchou: | he doesnt seem all that motivated this year..... |
| [08:53:00] | briand: | i think he will |
| [08:53:00] | briand: | ullrich has nothing for him this year |
| [08:53:00] | briand: | (again) |
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| [08:53:00] | mchou: | heh, that's true. |
| [08:53:00] | briand: | and he's the only real contender in the field |
| [08:54:00] | mchou: | but how about iban mayo? |
| [08:54:00] | briand: | i think he's gonna retire after this tour |
| [08:54:00] | mchou: | he said he was gonna retire. |
| [08:54:00] | briand: | mayo peaks too soon and too short |
| [08:54:00] | briand: | he hasn't shown me he can last a tour yet, at the top |
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| [08:54:00] | mchou: | oops, sorry, no mayo. that itlian dude..... |
| [08:55:00] | briand: | but then.. remember armstrong wasn't long on endurance in the earlier motorola days, either |
| [08:55:00] | mchou: | the guy on CSC, what's his name... |
| [08:55:00] | briand: | damn.. you would ask.. now i can't remember his name! |
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| [08:55:00] | mchou: | had intestine problem at Giro..... |
| [08:55:00] | briand: | (it's hell getting old) |
| [08:55:00] | darkbluesun: | would anyone feel like giving me a hand with audio on myth? |
| [08:55:00] | briand: | ...but it beats the alternative! |
| [08:55:00] | isbarak: | hello, can anyone help with LIRC instalation on debian? |
| [08:56:00] | mchou: | Ivan Basso, that's it..... |
| [08:57:00] | briand: | ah, yes, basso. |
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| [08:57:00] | mchou: | he looks pretty strong. |
| [08:57:00] | briand: | perhaps next year. |
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| [08:57:00] | briand: | he might surprise us this year |
| [08:57:00] | darkbluesun: | I've looked at the troubleshooting pages, and I can't seem to find anything like what I'm experiencing. Basically aplay /dev/dsp1 doesnt produce any sound |
| [08:57:00] | briand: | but lance is too determined. |
| [08:57:00] | briand: | 6 in a row is incredible... 7 is unbeatable. |
| [08:57:00] | briand: | and he's headstrong enough to want it enough to get it |
| [08:57:00] | mchou: | I dunno..... |
| [08:57:00] | darkbluesun: | (and yes, line makes sound when unmuted, and capture is turned on and line is set as a capture source) |
| [08:58:00] | briand: | nobody has ever won 6, let alone 6 in a row |
| [08:58:00] | mchou: | armstrong is a wimp. Does he ride any other races besides TdF?? :) |
| [08:58:00] | darkbluesun: | anyone? |
| [08:58:00] | mchou: | j/k |
| [08:58:00] | briand: | sure, he just finished up a race. |
| [08:58:00] | briand: | anyway.. i need to hit the sack.. was great chattin' with ya.. |
| [08:58:00] | mchou: | briand: for training, but not to win :) |
| [08:58:00] | darkbluesun: | anyone at all? |
| [08:59:00] | briand: | mchou: he's not the only one with that strategy, these days... |
| [08:59:00] | briand: | anyways.. we'll see.. only a few days away, now... :) |
| [08:59:00] | mchou: | hehe :) |
| [08:59:00] | briand: | darkbluesun: not i, sorry. :/ |
| [08:59:00] | briand: | anyhow.. g'nite all |
| [09:00:00] | mchou: | later. |
| [09:00:00] | briand: | mchou: we'll chat s'more as the tour nears. :) |
| [09:00:00] | mchou: | yeah, sure. |
| [09:00:00] | briand: | [waves] |
| [09:00:00] | briand: | g'nite |
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| [09:01:00] | darkbluesun: | some support chanel this is |
| [09:02:00] | darkbluesun: | is there anyone here who is actually here to help people or to get help with myth tv? |
| [09:05:00] | darkbluesun: | well, you all suck, bye |
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| [09:06:00] | isbarak: | msg darkbluesun it seems there is no-one. I also need support |
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| [09:13:00] | blues2: | ok...so this is weird... i can record video from the tv just fine... i just can't watch it live |
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| [09:13:00] | blues2: | as an aside, this program is sooo damn slick |
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| [09:15:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v stoffel | |
| [09:15:00] | blues2: | can't figure out why it wont let me watch live though...1 second and then bam. |
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| [10:12:00] | stang: | has anyone got mythtv going on Fedora Core 4? |
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| [10:15:00] | mace: | hi all – i've a question relating to mythtv and mysql.. |
| [10:15:00] | mace: | i'm getting errors in the backend log from mysql about errors in syntax |
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| [11:49:00] | crash-x: | does someone have some docs on howto write own mythtv plugins? |
| [11:55:00] | stoffel: | the source is all there is |
| [11:55:00] | crash-x: | oh |
| [11:55:00] | crash-x: | that sucks |
| [11:55:00] | crash-x: | :/ |
| [11:56:00] | crash-x: | you should write a little doc :/ |
| [11:56:00] | stoffel: | mythnews/mythweather are pretty easy |
| [11:56:00] | stoffel: | i |
| [11:56:00] | crash-x: | ok ill look at them |
| [11:56:00] | stoffel: | 'm not a dev |
| [11:56:00] | laga: | umm. there is this doxygen stuff, iirc |
| [11:56:00] | crash-x: | doxygen? |
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| [12:20:00] | _joey: | fuckkk |
| [12:25:00] | laga: | nice offer, but no, thank you |
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| [12:53:00] | nybble: | why hello |
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| [12:57:00] | ** KarlosII awakens from his sleep ** | |
| [12:58:00] | nybble: | hmm. are there any optimizations for mythtv on 64bit.? |
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| [13:18:00] | _joey: | fucckkkkk |
| [13:18:00] | _joey: | encore for laga |
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| [13:52:00] | rben: | My remote is driving me nuts. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I thought it was because the driver wasn't being loaded, but I used update-rc.d to add the lirc script to the startup and that still didn't do it. I found, after reboot, that the driver still wasn't running. Then I started it manually and everything worked. |
| [13:53:00] | rben: | I rebooted again, just for grins, and the driver wasn't started. This time I started it, and things didn't work. irw shows that the remote is working, but mythtv isn't responding |
| [13:53:00] | rben: | Since I haven't changed the conf files and they worked before, I don't think they are the problem |
| [13:53:00] | rben: | any suggestions where to look? |
| [13:53:00] | _joey: | You dropped in toilet , didn't you ? |
| [13:54:00] | rben: | damn, you figured it out |
| [13:54:00] | _joey: | Now quiet |
| [13:54:00] | rben: | yeah, but it's all dried out now |
| [13:54:00] | rben: | so it should be working |
| [13:55:00] | _joey: | Ibviously it hasn't been, undo the screws, take it apart and dry it again |
| [13:57:00] | rben: | not a speck of moisture |
| [13:58:00] | _joey: | Bad luck...it's b0rked now. Replace it with a new one |
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| [13:59:00] | rben: | makes no sense at all |
| [14:10:00] | rben: | anyone know anything about webmin? |
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| [14:21:00] | _joey: | yeah |
| [14:21:00] | _joey: | it sucks |
| [14:21:00] | _joey: | balls |
| [14:21:00] | Tommck: | _joey – can I get its number then? |
| [14:22:00] | _joey: | Which number? |
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| [14:22:00] | Tommck: | webmin's phone number... if it sucks balls. Can I assume it's female? :) |
| [14:22:00] | Tommck: | I'm just in a weird mood.. |
| [14:22:00] | Tommck: | not enough coffee yet |
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| [14:32:00] | travolta: | lol, suntzutech was probably at work and you start talking about females sucking balls. |
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| [14:42:00] | _joey: | who's sunzutech ? |
| [14:42:00] | _joey: | Your pimp ? |
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| [14:55:00] | rsdvd: | does anyone here know how to get the IRBlaster 'transmitter' to work from a PVR-150?.........all I can get is 'Hardware does not support sending'.......any help will be really appreciate |
| [14:56:00] | rben: | what does irblaster do? |
| [14:57:00] | rsdvd: | sorry ....I mean the remote control lead.....I have it 'recieving' ok.....but I cannot use it to irsend to control my set-top box |
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| [14:57:00] | rben: | I don't think you can use the PVR-150 that way, doesn't it just have a receiver lead? |
| [14:58:00] | rsdvd: | it has a very long lead and a short one.......the short is a reciever and the long is a transmitter (according the the windows instrctions) |
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| [14:58:00] | rben: | oh, that's nice, I might need one of those then. I need some way to control my settop box |
| [14:59:00] | rben: | I'm still learning, just discovered webmin |
| [14:59:00] | rsdvd: | LOL.....it would be nice if it worked. |
| [15:00:00] | rben: | there's usually a way to get it working, it's a bit early for the gurus here |
| [15:00:00] | rsdvd: | anyone else here know anything about these remotes? |
| [15:01:00] | rsdvd: | Early......it is the middle of the afternoon :-) (but there again I am int UK) |
| [15:02:00] | rben: | I'm in New England |
| [15:02:00] | rben: | 9am here |
| [15:02:00] | travolta: | 6am on west coast of north america |
| [15:02:00] | rben: | wife woke me up at 6am and now she's back asleep |
| [15:02:00] | rsdvd: | LOL.....14:00 here....that explains why there are so few gurus in |
| [15:03:00] | rsdvd: | good morning travolta |
| [15:03:00] | rben: | there do seem to be a disproportionate number in the west coast time zone |
| [15:03:00] | rben: | Ok, confirmed that the 150 does have both transmitter and receiver |
| [15:04:00] | rsdvd: | LOL....well at least I am not going mad. Just cannot work out how to do it......all the HOWTOs refer to using Serial connections |
| [15:05:00] | travolta: | afternoon to you sir :) |
| [15:05:00] | rben: | yeah, because most are working with a device that's a serial connector hooked up to an ir emitter |
| [15:05:00] | rben: | like this http://www.irblaster.info/ |
| [15:06:00] | rsdvd: | yeah....but I don;t want to build a transmitter when I have this one |
| [15:06:00] | rben: | I can appreciate that |
| [15:09:00] | rben: | can you direct me to the docs? |
| [15:09:00] | rben: | I'll see if I can help you sort it out |
| [15:10:00] | rsdvd: | I wish there were some......I have followed Jarods famous docs to get the rest working......but the only docs for the IRBlaster are for windows |
| [15:11:00] | rben: | hmm, hard to believe that someone hasn't gotten it working in Linux yet |
| [15:12:00] | rsdvd: | that is what I thought......I was hoping that one of these 112 people might have ti working |
| [15:12:00] | rben: | I'm doing some googling |
| [15:13:00] | rsdvd: | thanks |
| [15:13:00] | rben: | not much luck yet |
| [15:14:00] | rsdvd: | :-( |
| [15:16:00] | rben: | beginning to think that $15 for the external irblaster isn't such a bad idea... |
| [15:17:00] | rsdvd: | LOL.......I know. I might go out and buy the parts and make one myself.............just won;t be for a week cause there are no electronics shops round here |
| [15:17:00] | rben: | what distro are you using? |
| [15:17:00] | rsdvd: | Fedora |
| [15:17:00] | rben: | I'm using Knoppmyth |
| [15:17:00] | rsdvd: | I might try that on a frontend later today |
| [15:18:00] | rben: | I've been happy with it mostly, but right now I can't get my remote to work reliably |
| [15:18:00] | rben: | I think it might be because I have a PVR-250 and 350 in the same box |
| [15:18:00] | rsdvd: | there are lots of pages about running 2 remotes |
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| [15:19:00] | rben: | two remote receivers or two remote units? |
| [15:19:00] | rsdvd: | both/either........just all talk about serial connections |
| [15:19:00] | rben: | ah |
| [15:20:00] | rben: | the problem is that I did have it working |
| [15:20:00] | rben: | and now for some reason it's stopped and I can't figure out what I changed |
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| [15:20:00] | rsdvd: | always the way with MythTV etc.....when one thing works another stops |
| [15:20:00] | rben: | If I can get everything working I'll move it to the living room and use it when I'm on the treadmill |
| [15:20:00] | rsdvd: | (in my experience) |
| [15:20:00] | rben: | yeah, not quite as easy as Tivo yet |
| [15:21:00] | obsidian: | haha |
| [15:21:00] | obsidian: | no not quite |
| [15:21:00] | rben: | I probably should have kept one of the cards in the other machine and just used one machine to support the database for both backends |
| [15:22:00] | rben: | But I wanted both on the machine in the LR so that I could have one hooked to digital box and one to reg cable |
| [15:22:00] | rsdvd: | rben; I am sure you will get it working |
| [15:22:00] | rben: | I hope so |
| [15:22:00] | nybble: | hey guys, i have a question. Is there currently a way to distribute the encoding of a file over a network. Like say record raw, then use a process running on all compys on the network to encode it to said... wait... nvm. i answered my own question. |
| [15:23:00] | obsidian: | ok :) |
| [15:23:00] | rben: | hey, is it possible to upgrade to the latest fedora core from fc1 w/o losing all the stuff on your machine? |
| [15:23:00] | nybble: | using apt probably? |
| [15:23:00] | nybble: | or yum or whatever it is |
| [15:23:00] | rben: | yum I think |
| [15:23:00] | obsidian: | I like debian myself; apt package always seemed to handle that better |
| [15:23:00] | nybble: | i've done it before |
| [15:23:00] | obsidian: | forget what FC is using now |
| [15:23:00] | rjune: | rben: using the CDs? yes but backup your data first |
| [15:23:00] | nybble: | i'm on ubuntu |
| [15:23:00] | nybble: | tee he heh |
| [15:24:00] | nybble: | has anyone here used knopmyth |
| [15:24:00] | rjune: | rben: you can even do it with yum, but that's not reccommended |
| [15:24:00] | obsidian: | yeah i did |
| [15:24:00] | obsidian: | gave it up |
| [15:24:00] | rben: | I use knoppmyth |
| [15:24:00] | rben: | I like it quite a bit |
| [15:24:00] | nybble: | sweet... |
| [15:24:00] | obsidian: | I found releases lagged behind too much, had various problems... |
| [15:24:00] | nybble: | i'm thinking of using it... |
| [15:24:00] | rben: | although at the moment I'm pulling my hair out trying to get the remote working again |
| [15:24:00] | Chuji: | hmm, is it normal for your mouse to go away in mythsetup? |
| [15:24:00] | obsidian: | for some reason it was easier for me to solve my own problems with straight debian |
| [15:24:00] | obsidian: | but ymmv |
| [15:24:00] | rben: | the latest release is up-to-date |
| [15:24:00] | nybble: | rben: i'm just going to use a wireless keyboard.. |
| [15:24:00] | nybble: | its easier |
| [15:25:00] | nybble: | and geekier |
| [15:25:00] | obsidian: | I learned a lot from looking at how they did knoppmyth, tho |
| [15:25:00] | rben: | I've been considering that too |
| [15:25:00] | obsidian: | that made it easier to build my own |
| [15:25:00] | rben: | I like that everything is set up for you |
| [15:25:00] | nybble: | rben: me too |
| [15:25:00] | rben: | and now that I've found webmin is on it, it's a lot easier |
| [15:25:00] | obsidian: | it's great when it works :) |
| [15:25:00] | nybble: | yay.. |
| [15:25:00] | obsidian: | There is a really cheap wireless keyboard I use and kind of like |
| [15:25:00] | nybble: | has anyone tried the rss feed grabber? |
| [15:25:00] | rben: | plus they put ndiswrapper on latest version, so my wireless card works |
| [15:26:00] | nybble: | that grabs like torrent files (i hope) |
| [15:26:00] | obsidian: | ah, ndiswrapper |
| [15:26:00] | rben: | I want one of the rf wireless keyboards |
| [15:26:00] | rben: | you mean the news thing? |
| [15:26:00] | obsidian: | I would say go that route only if you need to; ir so cheap and works really well |
| [15:26:00] | rben: | or torrentocracy? |
| [15:26:00] | nybble: | there is one to grab torrents, i watch alot of torrents.. |
| [15:26:00] | rben: | we've had terrible luck with ir |
| [15:26:00] | nybble: | etc etc. |
| [15:26:00] | obsidian: | I tried ndiswrapper but my wireless card was never stable with it :( |
| [15:26:00] | obsidian: | had to use madwifi |
| [15:26:00] | nybble: | mmmm...madwifi |
| [15:26:00] | rben: | Mine seems to be rock solid with it now |
| [15:27:00] | obsidian: | madwifi is stable at least, but can't do high speed mode with atheros :( :( |
| [15:27:00] | rben: | I think they include madwifi on the latest Knoppmyth, too |
| [15:27:00] | nybble: | ya.. |
| [15:27:00] | nybble: | its a stable driver |
| [15:27:00] | rben: | I got linksys WMP54gs |
| [15:27:00] | obsidian: | I tried that one |
| [15:27:00] | obsidian: | had problems with signal strength, also |
| [15:27:00] | rben: | I figure that's fast enough to serve video, probably |
| [15:27:00] | obsidian: | it was underpowered, so WPA cut throughput by 50% :( |
| [15:28:00] | obsidian: | it's plenty fast enough if you don't need encryption tho |
| [15:28:00] | rben: | If I have that problem I'll just change the antenna |
| [15:28:00] | nybble: | ah.. |
| [15:28:00] | rben: | I do have WEP set up |
| [15:28:00] | nybble: | i'm wiring all mine |
| [15:28:00] | nybble: | :D |
| [15:28:00] | rben: | I'm in apartment, have three neighbors with wifi |
| [15:28:00] | nybble: | tra la lal a la |
| [15:28:00] | obsidian: | WEP is fine (I mean, it's useless, but its fine) |
| [15:28:00] | rben: | one of them unsecured |
| [15:28:00] | obsidian: | I gotta say, in retrospect, wireless is such a pain, I wouldn't bother if I had to start again |
| [15:28:00] | rben: | haven't figured out WPA on linux yet |
| [15:28:00] | obsidian: | easier to do the wires than fight with everything else |
| [15:28:00] | nybble: | wpasupplicant |
| [15:28:00] | nybble: | thats what i use |
| [15:28:00] | obsidian: | yeah |
| [15:28:00] | obsidian: | it works really well actually |
| [15:29:00] | rben: | wires in apartment is pain |
| [15:29:00] | obsidian: | I know! |
| [15:29:00] | rben: | I need to read up on it, just haven't had time |
| [15:29:00] | nybble: | yea.. |
| [15:29:00] | obsidian: | but wireless was worse for me by the end |
| [15:29:00] | rben: | I'm working on a book, so I have to spend some time writing |
| [15:29:00] | nybble: | its gradually gone downhill |
| [15:29:00] | nybble: | i'm just glad i dont live in a city where they are in every other house |
| [15:29:00] | obsidian: | heh |
| [15:29:00] | rben: | Hey, you can borrow the extra bandwidth... |
| [15:29:00] | rben: | lol |
| [15:30:00] | nybble: | lol. |
| [15:30:00] | obsidian: | watch what your neighbors surf; it's better than TV |
| [15:30:00] | obsidian: | lol |
| [15:30:00] | nybble: | tis.. |
| [15:30:00] | nybble: | *loves ethereal* |
| [15:30:00] | rben: | first time I set up wireless, took me forever to figure out it was connecting to neighbor |
| [15:30:00] | obsidian: | haha |
| [15:30:00] | obsidian: | lmao |
| [15:30:00] | obsidian: | me too! |
| [15:30:00] | nybble: | lol |
| [15:30:00] | rben: | wondered why downloads were so much faster |
| [15:30:00] | nybble: | LOL! |
| [15:30:00] | travolta: | lol |
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| [15:31:00] | rben: | Since I've reinstalled Knoppmyth about 8 times now, I'm getting pretty good at it |
| [15:31:00] | nybble: | lol |
| [15:31:00] | rben: | except the damn lirc |
| [15:31:00] | nybble: | torrentocracy .. |
| [15:31:00] | rben: | even irw works, but not the actual mythtv |
| [15:31:00] | nybble: | *googles it* |
| [15:32:00] | nybble: | yay |
| [15:32:00] | nybble: | thats it |
| [15:32:00] | nybble: | ! |
| [15:32:00] | nybble: | :D |
| [15:32:00] | rben: | I'm curious aobut torentocracy |
| [15:32:00] | obsidian: | me too |
| [15:32:00] | rben: | but haven't set it up yet |
| [15:32:00] | obsidian: | haven't gotten around to it yet |
| [15:32:00] | obsidian: | actually I was having stabillity issues lately so that's been taking all my time |
| [15:32:00] | nybble: | ah.. |
| [15:32:00] | rben: | I was too, found out the inlets to the comp box were covered up and it was overheating |
| [15:32:00] | nybble: | i want to buy my keyboard...TODAY! |
| [15:32:00] | obsidian: | funny, the box ran rock solid for 8 months, then out of the blue... |
| [15:33:00] | nybble: | lol... |
| [15:33:00] | obsidian: | yeah temp is such a problem on myth frontend boxes |
| [15:33:00] | rben: | what is wierd is that the kernel can stop because of overheating, but I can't find any indication of sensors in the bios |
| [15:33:00] | obsidian: | lol |
| [15:33:00] | obsidian: | u tried lm_sensors? |
| [15:33:00] | nybble: | there is a point when it just "gives up" lol |
| [15:33:00] | rben: | our knoppmyth box ran for about a year w/o problems |
| [15:33:00] | rben: | when I tired lm_sensors it broke mythtv |
| [15:33:00] | obsidian: | really? |
| [15:33:00] | nybble: | whats some good specs for a frontend.... |
| [15:33:00] | obsidian: | interesting |
| [15:33:00] | nybble: | xbox? |
| [15:33:00] | nybble: | lol |
| [15:34:00] | obsidian: | xbox is nice if u have a back end! |
| [15:34:00] | rben: | I'm on an e-machine, don't laugh |
| [15:34:00] | rben: | It was cheap |
| [15:34:00] | obsidian: | I'm afraid to mod mine cause I game on it all the time tho |
| [15:34:00] | nybble: | i'm *planning* on using my desktop, since i got my laptop, i dont use it at all |
| [15:34:00] | rben: | I can't find anything on using the PVR-150 and irblaster |
| [15:34:00] | obsidian: | oh yeah |
| [15:34:00] | nybble: | i really hope the rs232 isnt disabled on my dct2000 |
| [15:34:00] | obsidian: | those new fangled 150s |
| [15:35:00] | nybble: | or is it 1000 |
| [15:35:00] | nybble: | i cant remember anymore |
| [15:35:00] | rsdvd: | ok rben...........I canlt find anythin either |
| [15:35:00] | obsidian: | 2000 I think |
| [15:35:00] | rben: | Sounds like a great solution for people with digital cable boxes |
| [15:35:00] | obsidian: | never had one |
| [15:35:00] | obsidian: | Today I'm upgrading everything... |
| [15:35:00] | nybble: | it would be so damn easy if mine had firewire out |
| [15:35:00] | obsidian: | new kernel, new drivers etc |
| [15:35:00] | nybble: | i have more than enough firewire cra |
| [15:35:00] | obsidian: | there should be a law; they should all have firewire |
| [15:35:00] | nybble: | *crap |
| [15:36:00] | nybble: | ya.. |
| [15:36:00] | rben: | The great thing is that mythtv keeps getting better |
| [15:36:00] | obsidian: | yeah it's pretty active |
| [15:36:00] | obsidian: | which is good |
| [15:36:00] | nybble: | yea |
| [15:36:00] | rben: | can't understand why mine didn't have all the commercial spotting stuff turned on |
| [15:36:00] | obsidian: | it's CPU heavy? |
| [15:36:00] | obsidian: | if you set "all" it's really intense actually |
| [15:36:00] | rben: | yeah, but I turned it on now and the commercial spotting is much better |
| [15:36:00] | obsidian: | yeah it works great :) |
| [15:37:00] | obsidian: | ...unless you have antenna TV :( |
| [15:37:00] | rben: | I got a 2.7 GHz, so it's not a complete wimp |
| [15:37:00] | nybble: | that is a FEATURE!? |
| [15:37:00] | nybble: | yay! |
| [15:37:00] | rben: | although, I noticed that apache causes the video to pause |
| [15:37:00] | obsidian: | really? |
| [15:37:00] | rben: | yeah |
| [15:37:00] | obsidian: | maybe look at niceing down apache |
| [15:37:00] | obsidian: | you know, the old "renice `pidof httpd` 20" |
| [15:37:00] | rben: | probably a good idea |
| [15:38:00] | obsidian: | actually it's funny that even without that it causes video to pause |
| [15:38:00] | rben: | I'll just use webmin, easier for me to understand |
| [15:38:00] | nybble: | or turning down how many processes it uses aswell |
| [15:38:00] | obsidian: | I would check that your AGP is enabled |
| [15:38:00] | obsidian: | and that the other basics, dma etc are OK |
| [15:38:00] | nybble: | anyone have any success with Radeon 7500 |
| [15:38:00] | obsidian: | my AGP needed tweaking to work, that drove me to distraction |
| [15:38:00] | nybble: | ?s |
| [15:38:00] | rben: | everthing looks ok in biod |
| [15:38:00] | rben: | bios |
| [15:39:00] | obsidian: | 7500? nvidia guy myself |
| [15:39:00] | nybble: | me too. |
| [15:39:00] | obsidian: | rben, nah I mean in linux kernel |
| [15:39:00] | rben: | ah |
| [15:39:00] | obsidian: | you can cat some proc file to see the status, hold on |
| [15:39:00] | nybble: | but all i have right now that is nvidia.....is a TNT2 with no tv out |
| [15:39:00] | nybble: | :( |
| [15:39:00] | nybble: | so i have to make do |
| [15:39:00] | rben: | I did notice some errors in syslog, one about mterr or something like that |
| [15:39:00] | nybble: | unless i use the xbox as the head |
| [15:40:00] | nybble: | (frontend i meant) |
| [15:40:00] | nybble: | *is idiot* |
| [15:40:00] | obsidian: | cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status |
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| [15:40:00] | obsidian: | mtrr errors could mean another potential performance issue |
| [15:40:00] | nybble: | i've got some cleaning to do.. |
| [15:40:00] | nybble: | so ttyguys later |
| [15:40:00] | rben: | don't have nvidia chipset |
| [15:40:00] | obsidian: | byee :) |
| [15:40:00] | rben: | later nybble |
| [15:41:00] | rben: | everything is running on lirc and the remote doesn't work |
| [15:41:00] | rben: | what can I be doing wrong? |
| [15:42:00] | travolta: | you guys know of a linux livecd for xbox that has mythtv frontend on it ? |
| [15:42:00] | obsidian: | no |
| [15:42:00] | obsidian: | rben; if you run irw, you see keypresses? |
| [15:42:00] | rben: | yeah |
| [15:42:00] | rben: | irw sees the key presses just fine |
| [15:42:00] | obsidian: | ls -alt /dev/lirc* |
| [15:42:00] | obsidian: | tell me what that says |
| [15:42:00] | rben: | and the config files are the ones that worked befoe |
| [15:42:00] | obsidian: | files are readable by world? |
| [15:42:00] | obsidian: | rw-rw-r-- ? |
| [15:43:00] | rben: | rw-r--r-- |
| [15:43:00] | obsidian: | hmmm |
| [15:43:00] | obsidian: | user and group? |
| [15:43:00] | rben: | and /dev/lircd is rw-rw-r-- |
| [15:43:00] | rben: | root root |
| [15:43:00] | obsidian: | ok, try this |
| [15:43:00] | obsidian: | edit /etc/group |
| [15:43:00] | obsidian: | make yourself a lirc group |
| [15:44:00] | obsidian: | make sure you give it a unique gruop ID (the IDs in the file are never in order) |
| [15:44:00] | obsidian: | then chgrp lirc /dev/lirc* |
| [15:44:00] | obsidian: | THEN |
| [15:44:00] | obsidian: | chmod g+rw /dev/lirc* |
| [15:44:00] | obsidian: | try that... |
| [15:44:00] | obsidian: | I had a perm problem with mythtv and lirc myself, this is what fixed it |
| [15:44:00] | obsidian: | I don't know why, but I think maybe mythtv even writes to the lirc socket |
| [15:45:00] | obsidian: | oh yeah, I forget :O |
| [15:45:00] | obsidian: | when you make that lirc group, add the user mythtv runs as to it |
| [15:45:00] | rben: | huh, maybe ... I have an idea |
| [15:45:00] | obsidian: | also, if you built mythtv yourself, you have to make sure you enabled lirc support in the first place :) |
| [15:45:00] | obsidian: | I made that mistake once too |
| [15:46:00] | rben: | I know the support is there, since it worked earlier |
| [15:46:00] | obsidian: | oh yeah, you can sometimes see what the problem is if you run mythtv from an xterm |
| [15:46:00] | obsidian: | get some output about it on stdout/stderr |
| [15:47:00] | rben: | gonig to start lircd from mythtv user and see if that works |
| [15:47:00] | obsidian: | ironically, the programs communicate through that file-pipe in dev |
| [15:47:00] | obsidian: | so the permissions on those dev files are all that should matter |
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| [15:48:00] | travolta: | if irw shows keypresses, i think his permisions are setup right |
| [15:48:00] | obsidian: | i had this problem before |
| [15:48:00] | obsidian: | irw shows keypresses |
| [15:48:00] | rben: | it's worth a shot |
| [15:48:00] | travolta: | if it doesnt work in mythtv, it is probably config files |
| [15:48:00] | obsidian: | but mythtv ignores the remote |
| [15:48:00] | obsidian: | and when I checked, it was that mythtv was getting permission denied on those dev files |
| [15:48:00] | rben: | but I had it working with these config files |
| [15:48:00] | rben: | huh |
| [15:49:00] | rben: | and that was through the xterm? |
| [15:49:00] | obsidian: | yeah |
| [15:49:00] | obsidian: | mythtv was complaining about it on stdout |
| [15:49:00] | rben: | well that's easy to check |
| [15:49:00] | obsidian: | yeah go for it |
| [15:50:00] | obsidian: | see what it says, maybe you get lucky |
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| [15:52:00] | rben: | now it works |
| [15:52:00] | rben: | when I restarted mythfrontend from the xterm |
| [15:52:00] | rben: | argh!!!!! |
| [15:52:00] | obsidian: | I bet I know why |
| [15:52:00] | obsidian: | what user are you in your xterm? |
| [15:52:00] | obsidian: | whoami |
| [15:53:00] | obsidian: | you root or something, right? |
| [15:53:00] | rben: | mythtv |
| [15:53:00] | obsidian: | sure? |
| [15:53:00] | obsidian: | you run whoami and it says that? |
| [15:53:00] | rsdvd: | rben....check which users have ~/mythtv/lircrc files |
| [15:53:00] | obsidian: | yeah |
| [15:54:00] | rben: | now I started it the regular way and it's working |
| [15:54:00] | rben: | ok |
| [15:55:00] | rben: | well at least I'm improving my Linux skills |
| [15:55:00] | obsidian: | haha |
| [15:55:00] | obsidian: | did you change the perms or something? |
| [15:55:00] | rsdvd: | obsidian: you seem very knowledgable on lirc......have you ever doen anything witht he transmitter part of a PVR-150 IRBlaster? |
| [15:55:00] | obsidian: | or it just started working out of the blue? |
| [15:55:00] | rben: | no |
| [15:55:00] | obsidian: | haha |
| [15:55:00] | obsidian: | no, I never had a 150 |
| [15:55:00] | rben: | didn't change a thing except restarted lirc with webmin |
| [15:55:00] | ** obsidian shrugs ** | |
| [15:55:00] | rben: | It must be the moon phase |
| [15:55:00] | obsidian: | when it works, it works. just be happy :) |
| [15:55:00] | rben: | or my mouth position |
| [15:55:00] | rsdvd: | probablby the same on all Hauupague PVRS (he says grasping at straws) |
| [15:56:00] | obsidian: | the pvr-250 has no IR transmit |
| [15:56:00] | rben: | rsdvd as far as I know, only the 150 has the transmitter |
| [15:56:00] | obsidian: | yeah |
| [15:56:00] | rsdvd: | :-( |
| [15:56:00] | obsidian: | the 150 is kind of new; who knows if it works in linux at all? |
| [15:56:00] | rben: | rsdvd: save yourself some grief and get the $15 one or build one. In a few months someone will have the PVR-150 figured all out and you can configure it then. |
| [15:57:00] | rsdvd: | yeah it does......with the lastest ivtv drivers |
| [15:57:00] | rben: | I've seen plenty of stuff to show that the 150 works with mythtv |
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| [15:57:00] | rsdvd: | OK might have to.......but it will be mouch more than $15 for me as I am in the UK....will have to build one myself |
| [15:57:00] | rben: | but in order for the ir transmitter to work, someone has to figure out the addresses and protocols and stuff |
| [15:57:00] | rben: | they are easy to build |
| [15:58:00] | obsidian: | sorry I meant the ir blaster part |
| [15:58:00] | rben: | probably cost you less than $15 if you build it |
| [15:58:00] | obsidian: | yeah it's a fun project anyway |
| [15:58:00] | obsidian: | ir xmit is really simple |
| [15:58:00] | obsidian: | I built a few back in college |
| [15:58:00] | rsdvd: | probably........but there are no electronic shops near here...willhave to roder it all online |
| [15:58:00] | obsidian: | really? :( |
| [15:58:00] | rben: | Just make sure to get some surgical clamps to work as heat sinks between the soldering point and the transmitting LED |
| [15:59:00] | rben: | not even an english radio shack? |
| [15:59:00] | obsidian: | yeah in fact, its worth it to get a really nice soldering iron... those cheap ones you see all the time are shite |
| [15:59:00] | rben: | There are some great new ones that heat and cool almost instantly |
| [15:59:00] | rben: | much harder to start fires and such with them |
| [15:59:00] | rsdvd: | radio shack is called tandy int he UK....but there are very few. I have all the equiptment....just no IR LEDS |
| [15:59:00] | rben: | well, those are cheap enough |
| [16:00:00] | obsidian: | most people buy the $10 soldering iron and get really frustrated; it's such a huge diff |
| [16:00:00] | obsidian: | maybe go on ebay, somebody post them to you |
| [16:00:00] | obsidian: | cheap |
| [16:00:00] | rben: | I helped my dad build my first computer, a Heathkit H89 way back in the 70s |
| [16:00:00] | obsidian: | wow that's cool! |
| [16:00:00] | rben: | It was fun |
| [16:00:00] | obsidian: | I never built a whole computer, only ISA cards and suchlike |
| [16:00:00] | rben: | The cpu card came preassembled |
| [16:01:00] | rben: | I think we did the video and built the monitor |
| [16:01:00] | obsidian: | wow, tvs are scary |
| [16:01:00] | rben: | plus the keyboard, that was a bitch to solder |
| [16:01:00] | obsidian: | lol wow |
| [16:01:00] | rben: | nah, you just have to be careful |
| [16:01:00] | obsidian: | I had a flyback transformer melt my screwdriver in a blinding flash once |
| [16:01:00] | rben: | my dad built a TV kit. |
| [16:01:00] | rben: | that's why you have to be careful |
| [16:01:00] | obsidian: | TV had been unplugged for a whole day |
| [16:01:00] | obsidian: | lol |
| [16:01:00] | obsidian: | :o |
| [16:01:00] | rben: | or you short across the capaciter to discharge it |
| [16:02:00] | rben: | I worked in a Heathkit Electronics Center later on |
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| [16:02:00] | rben: | You know what was the leading cause of problems with the TVs? |
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| [16:02:00] | rben: | People's cats would sleep on top of them and sometimes they had bladder problems |
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| [16:03:00] | rben: | And the people thought it was the electronics making the smell |
| [16:03:00] | obsidian: | lmao!!! |
| [16:03:00] | obsidian: | I am keeping a closer eye on my cats from now on |
| [16:04:00] | rben: | Our techs were always having to fix kits that people messed up. |
| [16:04:00] | rben: | The best were when they put the wrong capaciters in the wrong spots |
| [16:04:00] | obsidian: | heh |
| [16:04:00] | rben: | They'd blow up and stick in the acoustic ceiling tile |
| [16:04:00] | obsidian: | capacitor popcorn |
| [16:04:00] | _joey: | what kind of remote control do you have? |
| [16:04:00] | rben: | One tech had a whole tile decorated with them. |
| [16:04:00] | obsidian: | lol |
| [16:05:00] | rben: | So, does anyone know about configuring some random remote to work with mythtv? |
| [16:05:00] | _joey: | i think we are wasting time with myth |
| [16:05:00] | _joey: | windows mce is the way to go |
| [16:05:00] | rben: | you go for it _joey |
| [16:05:00] | _joey: | but |
| [16:06:00] | _joey: | does it support my hauppauge nexus-s dvb-s |
| [16:06:00] | obsidian: | google? |
| [16:06:00] | _joey: | I don't think it does |
| [16:06:00] | obsidian: | rben; i have a pvr-250 with IR receiver |
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| [16:06:00] | obsidian: | that's kind of limited in what it can do; only really that remote will work |
| [16:06:00] | obsidian: | but it's fine for me |
| [16:06:00] | obsidian: | I use a universal anyway |
| [16:07:00] | rben: | ah, I've got the 250 and the 350 in my box |
| [16:07:00] | rben: | so how do you use a universal/ |
| [16:07:00] | obsidian: | If you buy or build a more general ir component then you can configure linux to use just about any IR signal |
| [16:07:00] | _joey: | easy, enter the code in it |
| [16:07:00] | rben: | huh, that might be worth doing |
| [16:07:00] | obsidian: | It's a learning remote, so I train it with the hauppauge remote |
| [16:07:00] | obsidian: | although I hear |
| [16:07:00] | _joey: | or place one in fron of another and let it learn :) |
| [16:07:00] | rben: | ah |
| [16:07:00] | obsidian: | there is also a code for some similar VCR or something |
| [16:07:00] | obsidian: | that works on the pvr-250 |
| [16:07:00] | obsidian: | never found it htough |
| [16:08:00] | obsidian: | easier just to use a learning one |
| [16:08:00] | rben: | wish I knew what that was |
| [16:08:00] | rben: | the buttons on the grey remote aren't clear enough |
| [16:08:00] | obsidian: | yeah I know |
| [16:08:00] | rben: | especially when you are using two tuners |
| [16:08:00] | _joey: | well, if you find the code use it |
| [16:08:00] | obsidian: | kind of lame |
| [16:08:00] | rben: | might just build a general ir receiver |
| [16:08:00] | obsidian: | take an afternoon :) |
| [16:08:00] | rben: | another way to avoid writing |
| [16:09:00] | obsidian: | haha |
| [16:09:00] | rben: | most of the book is written, I'm doing the first rewrite now |
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| [16:09:00] | rben: | way more work than the original writing was |
| [16:09:00] | obsidian: | funny |
| [16:09:00] | obsidian: | yeah procrastinating while writing is an ancient and noble pursuit |
| [16:10:00] | rben: | well I want to be a good writer, so I'm perfecting that skill |
| [16:10:00] | obsidian: | that's cool |
| [16:10:00] | _joey: | how cool is mythtv ? |
| [16:10:00] | obsidian: | it's THIIIIIS cool |
| [16:10:00] | ** obsidian holds out arms ** | |
| [16:10:00] | ** _joey is so annoyed he is resorted to linux solution for multimedia ** | |
| [16:10:00] | _joey: | kind of funny ms windows don't support hardware and linux does :) |
| [16:11:00] | obsidian: | you can use OGLE and fast-forward through copyright warnings |
| [16:11:00] | obsidian: | play mame games with your TV remote |
| [16:11:00] | rben: | not really _joey, we Linux geeks outnumber MS employees |
| [16:11:00] | obsidian: | and if something about it annoys you, rip open the hood and fix it :) |
| [16:11:00] | _joey: | you call yourself linux geek ? |
| [16:11:00] | rben: | windows is walking around dead |
| [16:11:00] | _joey: | you don't strike me as a geek |
| [16:11:00] | obsidian: | they even know it too |
| [16:11:00] | obsidian: | "you don't look like a geek" lol |
| [16:11:00] | rben: | that's okay, I don't have to |
| [16:12:00] | obsidian: | on irc... lol |
| [16:12:00] | _joey: | THe days have past since we had true unix geeks, now only pesky self-indulgent n00bs |
| [16:12:00] | obsidian: | oh yeah joey? |
| [16:12:00] | _joey: | uwsing linux just because they want to be different |
| [16:12:00] | obsidian: | tell us more |
| [16:12:00] | rben: | Hey, I resemble that remark! |
| [16:12:00] | _joey: | :) |
| [16:12:00] | rben: | really, I thought I was using it because it provided the best solution for my needs |
| [16:12:00] | rben: | damn |
| [16:13:00] | _joey: | how can fuck use linux for everything/ |
| [16:13:00] | rben: | thank's for that insight. That will save me megabucks at the shrink |
| [16:13:00] | _joey: | especially with rediculous X WIndow system that should have been replaced a long time ago |
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| [16:13:00] | rben: | Ever seen KDE or Gnome? |
| [16:13:00] | _joey: | and stupid support for graphics cards with bugs and omitted features |
| [16:13:00] | obsidian: | ah yes, X windows... bane of our time |
| [16:14:00] | _joey: | have you seen that nVIDIA driver ? it's 4 times larger than your entire running kernel |
| [16:14:00] | _joey: | :) |
| [16:14:00] | rben: | X windows is one of the strengths of Linux, it allows you to work on any machine in a network as if you were sitting in front of it. |
| [16:14:00] | _joey: | enough of whining |
| [16:14:00] | _joey: | :)) |
| [16:14:00] | rben: | well, Linux geeks didn't write the nVidia driver |
| [16:14:00] | _joey: | rben I had doubts about you being a geek , not anymore;) |
| [16:15:00] | rben: | glad I could help |
| [16:15:00] | _joey: | who cares who wrote it, the fact is we don't have it |
| [16:15:00] | _joey: | proper drivers |
| [16:15:00] | rben: | besides, geek is so much shorter than self-indulgent noob |
| [16:15:00] | _joey: | and X sucks big times |
| [16:15:00] | _joey: | oh yeah |
| [16:15:00] | rben: | But X allows you to develop your vocabulary of curses |
| [16:17:00] | rben: | well, it's been fun, thanks for all the help guys |
| [16:17:00] | rben: | c u later |
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| [16:18:00] | _joey: | I think it was heart braking for him ..:) |
| [16:19:00] | _joey: | To read all this about his beloved OS |
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| [16:21:00] | Ashlar_: | _joey: to a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail |
| [16:22:00] | Ashlar_: | everybody has their favorite hammer :) |
| [16:22:00] | Randall64: | Anyone using 0.18.1 on OS X? |
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| [16:28:00] | mchou: | ok, is this a good deal? Desktop Bundle – Price = $250 |
| [16:28:00] | mchou: | ? AMD Athlon? 64 3200+ 939 pin processor |
| [16:28:00] | mchou: | ? Asus A8N-E Socket 939 motherboard |
| [16:28:00] | mchou: | ? Microsoft® Windows® XP x64 Edition |
| [16:29:00] | mchou: | obviously I plan on selling useless windows :) |
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| [16:32:00] | _joey: | off topic, very off topic . Does anyone know if windows mce support hauppauge nexus-s dvb-s card ? |
| [16:32:00] | mchou: | lol |
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| [16:32:00] | mchou: | go to the #mce channel |
| [16:32:00] | mchou: | any you guy heard about the amd tech tour? |
| [16:32:00] | _joey: | empty |
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| [16:33:00] | mchou: | _joey: I suggest going to hauppauges web site in germany to find out :) |
| [16:33:00] | _joey: | don't fucking suggest anything |
| [16:34:00] | _joey: | don't know the answer --be quiet |
| [16:34:00] | ** _joey is losing his cool ** | |
| [16:34:00] | mchou: | _joey: got up on the wrong side of the bed today? |
| [16:34:00] | iggy: | YOU ARE ASKING IN THE WRONG CHANNEL |
| [16:34:00] | mchou: | fsck yourself |
| [16:35:00] | mchou: | that was for _joey , btw |
| [16:35:00] | iggy: | I know you wouldn't talk to me like that ;) |
| [16:35:00] | mchou: | you wanna bet? :) |
| [16:36:00] | mchou: | goobers coming in #mythtv asking about mce, dunbasses. |
| [16:36:00] | mchou: | dumbasses* |
| [16:37:00] | _joey: | :) |
| [16:37:00] | _joey: | pathetic , self-indulgent wankers |
| [16:37:00] | mchou: | haha. |
| [16:37:00] | _joey: | rub two brain cells together before you write anything here |
| [16:38:00] | mchou: | you dont have two brain cells to even rub together. |
| [16:38:00] | travolta: | ^ topic: "engage brain before asking question" |
| [16:38:00] | _joey: | there's another one |
| [16:38:00] | mchou: | _joey: so shut your trap |
| [16:38:00] | mchou: | I smell a ban coming on..... |
| [16:39:00] | _joey: | won't comment unless it's a stupid convesation |
| [16:39:00] | _joey: | are you inviting the ops, are you? |
| [16:39:00] | _joey: | :) |
| [16:39:00] | _joey: | you are the one who started all this crap |
| [16:39:00] | mchou: | yeah, keep tempting us to ban ya. |
| [16:40:00] | _joey: | us?! |
| [16:40:00] | _joey: | why don't you chat for yourself loser :) |
| [16:40:00] | iggy: | you prefaced your question with "off topic, very off topic"... what did you expect |
| [16:40:00] | _joey: | I expected the idiots to be quiet |
| [16:40:00] | _joey: | nothing less:) |
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| [16:40:00] | iggy: | we use mythtv because we don't like mce |
| [16:40:00] | iggy: | it stands to reason we'd have choice words for mce |
| [16:40:00] | _joey: | there's no other channel around , besides we all use tv tuners cards no matter what software we use |
| [16:41:00] | iggy: | and for asshats that ask questions about it in here |
| [16:41:00] | _joey: | so this is a relevant channel wankers |
| [16:41:00] | travolta: | support@microsoft.com |
| [16:41:00] | mchou: | haha, we dont use mce because we dont like windows drm :) |
| [16:41:00] | mchou: | never mind mce bugginess. |
| [16:41:00] | _joey: | Now, chill out , get yourself a drink and you'd be all right wankers;) |
| [16:42:00] | mchou: | I wish you drown in a 1000 gallons of bad fosters beer...... |
| [16:42:00] | mchou: | I would feed slugs in my yard that crap. |
| [16:42:00] | mchou: | wouldnt* |
| [16:42:00] | _joey: | someone should kick this retard off the channel |
| [16:42:00] | _joey: | mchou me don't understand you |
| [16:42:00] | _joey: | :)) |
| [16:43:00] | mchou: | _joey: it's clear it's your first time here then :) |
| [16:43:00] | ChanServ sets mode +o Chutt | |
| [16:43:00] | Chutt: | ok |
| [16:43:00] | _joey: | diesn't matter |
| [16:43:00] | _joey: | you started the rotten chat |
| [16:43:00] | Chutt sets mode +b *!*joey@*.tpgi.com.au | |
| [16:43:00] | _joey was kicked from #mythtv-users by Chutt | |
| [16:43:00] | Chutt sets mode -o Chutt | |
| [16:44:00] | ** iggy golfclaps ** | |
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| [16:55:00] | joev: | morning, can anyone help with with getting a channels setup for dvb tuning? |
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| [17:04:00] | GotD0t: | that was interesting |
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| [17:14:00] | fnx: | Anyone currently out there had any experiance with debugfs? My /usr/mythtv mount's just got hosed :-( |
| [17:14:00] | Chuji: | hmm, is it normal for your mouse to go away in mythsetup? |
| [17:14:00] | stoffel: | yes |
| [17:14:00] | stoffel: | ^ Chuji |
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| [17:15:00] | Randall64: | what an asshat |
| [17:16:00] | GeckoFiend: | ? |
| [17:16:00] | joev: | anyone with experiece setting uo channels for hd3000 dvb? |
| [17:16:00] | Randall64: | That knob-gobbler asking about MCE |
| [17:16:00] | mchou: | wow, everyone is in such a cheerful mood today :) |
| [17:17:00] | rjune: | Randall64: your boss or your wife? |
| [17:17:00] | mchou: | haha:) |
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| [17:17:00] | Chuji: | stoffel : So you have to configure it all with the keyboard? |
| [17:17:00] | Chuji: | stoffel : seems odd |
| [17:17:00] | Randall64: | rjune: My boss or wife could take your boss or wife, sonny. |
| [17:17:00] | EricAnderson: | Hey, quick question, what settings do you use for recording (ie: widthxheight & bitrate) |
| [17:17:00] | mchou: | rjune: sounds like a challenge to me :) |
| [17:18:00] | Randall64: | Eric: 480x480, 4000Kbps |
| [17:18:00] | rjune: | mchou: indeed |
| [17:18:00] | EricAnderson: | why 480x480... thats no where close to 4:3 |
| [17:18:00] | EricAnderson: | ?? |
| [17:18:00] | rjune: | Randall64: my boss or wife isn't the knob-gobbling asshat asking about MCE |
| [17:18:00] | rjune: | he |
| [17:18:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [17:18:00] | mchou: | rjune: didnt you say you wouldn't ming swinging earlier? :) |
| [17:19:00] | mchou: | mind* |
| [17:19:00] | rjune: | not with an asshat. :-) |
| [17:19:00] | Randall64: | rjune: nor is mine ... |
| [17:19:00] | mchou: | haha!! |
| [17:20:00] | mchou: | joev: you in US? |
| [17:21:00] | EricAnderson: | Randall64: Why dont you use a 4:3 ratio? |
| [17:21:00] | joev: | yes |
| [17:21:00] | mchou: | joev: xris has a .pl script. search the mail archives. |
| [17:22:00] | joev: | is that the one for dvb-apps? |
| [17:22:00] | joev: | who/what is xris? |
| [17:22:00] | mchou: | joev: normalizes datadirect and your ATSC channels. |
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| [17:23:00] | mchou: | xris is the guy who works on mythweb. |
| [17:23:00] | obsidian: | Does anybody here use DVB? |
| [17:23:00] | joev: | well googling xris didn't help |
| [17:23:00] | mchou: | (the script is not mythweb specific though) |
| [17:23:00] | joev: | returned male sexual assualt sites |
| [17:23:00] | jemarcks__: | lol |
| [17:23:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [17:24:00] | mchou: | Try Peterson. |
| [17:24:00] | mchou: | or is it petersen? |
| [17:24:00] | mchou: | who knows :) |
| [17:25:00] | joev: | found a chris petersen – mythtv info |
| [17:25:00] | obsidian: | is setup for mythtv with ATSC DVB documented ANYWHERE??? |
| [17:25:00] | joev: | that's him |
| [17:25:00] | obsidian: | I've been looking all morning and nothing comes up |
| [17:25:00] | joev: | obsidian: using hd3000? |
| [17:25:00] | obsidian: | yes |
| [17:26:00] | joev: | what kernel? |
| [17:26:00] | obsidian: | I have everything working, but I have no idea what to do in mythtv-setup |
| [17:26:00] | obsidian: | 2.6.12 |
| [17:26:00] | joev: | what does lsmod say about cx88? |
| [17:26:00] | obsidian: | works! |
| [17:26:00] | obsidian: | with mplayer |
| [17:26:00] | obsidian: | the problem is channel setup |
| [17:26:00] | joev: | k |
| [17:26:00] | GeckoFiend: | Chuji myth is desinged to be used with a remote/keyboard on a TV not with a mouse on a monitor.. |
| [17:26:00] | mchou: | haha!! |
| [17:26:00] | obsidian: | I have no idea what the relationship is between the source and the channel scan, how they interact |
| [17:27:00] | mchou: | 2 birds with one stone! |
| [17:27:00] | obsidian: | all the scraps I can find on the internet leave me more confused after I read them |
| [17:27:00] | obsidian: | plus all of them are ancient |
| [17:27:00] | joev: | I had to run mythtv-set --dvb-path= and --enable-dvb |
| [17:27:00] | obsidian: | done |
| [17:27:00] | joev: | check ./configure --help for the syntax |
| [17:27:00] | joev: | good |
| [17:27:00] | obsidian: | dvb support is built into mythtv properly |
| [17:27:00] | obsidian: | the problem is channel setup |
| [17:27:00] | obsidian: | If I scan for channels, but I also pick my channels out in zap2it, something is defintely wrong here! |
| [17:28:00] | joev: | well, were're both in the same boat |
| [17:28:00] | rtsai: | obsidian: so you have two sets of channels? |
| [17:28:00] | obsidian: | actually I get to choose |
| [17:28:00] | joev: | lemme guess, transport ) error and pids |
| [17:28:00] | rtsai: | right; dvb scanning should have given you one set, and zap2it added another set |
| [17:28:00] | obsidian: | if I run mythfilldatabase after assigning the source to the dvb card, I get one set, then scan creates another |
| [17:28:00] | rtsai: | yes |
| [17:28:00] | rtsai: | so now you have two sets |
| [17:28:00] | fnx is now known as fnx_ | |
| [17:28:00] | rtsai: | good |
| [17:28:00] | obsidian: | but if I just assign the source, then scan, I have only one set until fill |
| [17:28:00] | rtsai: | are you comfortable with mysql? |
| [17:28:00] | obsidian: | extremely |
| [17:28:00] | joev: | yes |
| [17:29:00] | obsidian: | oh come on, do I really have to write SQL to make this work? |
| [17:29:00] | rtsai: | I think the simplest thing, then, for you is to examine the "channel" table |
| [17:29:00] | ** obsidian sighs ** | |
| [17:29:00] | obsidian: | ok |
| [17:29:00] | joev: | no problem |
| [17:29:00] | rtsai: | and copy the xmltvids from the zap2it entries (the ones with xmltvid values) into the corresponding rows for the dvb-scanned entries |
| [17:29:00] | mchou: | obsidian: the script has already been written. |
| [17:29:00] | obsidian: | ahhhhh omg |
| [17:29:00] | obsidian: | ok |
| [17:29:00] | fnx_ is now known as fnx | |
| [17:29:00] | obsidian: | I get it now |
| [17:29:00] | obsidian: | then delete the zap2it channels |
| [17:29:00] | rtsai: | yes |
| [17:29:00] | obsidian: | right? |
| [17:29:00] | mchou: | by xris. I'm the original author |
| [17:29:00] | mchou: | (with bash) |
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| [17:29:00] | obsidian: | mchou: so there's a script for this? |
| [17:30:00] | mchou: | yup. |
| [17:30:00] | obsidian: | how does it work? How can it match up one set of channels with another? Call letters? |
| [17:30:00] | mchou: | It works automagically :) |
| [17:30:00] | ** obsidian loves automagic ** | |
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| [17:30:00] | rtsai: | I've never heard of this script. Well, I only have like 10 chanels, so it wasn't a big deal |
| [17:30:00] | obsidian: | where does this script live now? |
| [17:31:00] | mchou: | rtsai: that's cause we dont support it :) |
| [17:31:00] | obsidian: | haha |
| [17:31:00] | mchou: | why is that funny? |
| [17:31:00] | mchou: | script is a PITA to support. |
| [17:31:00] | obsidian: | I'm sure it is |
| [17:31:00] | rtsai: | so just so I know, did I leave anything out, or is that all correct? |
| [17:31:00] | mchou: | considering all the noob questions we get. |
| [17:32:00] | obsidian: | it's funny just if you're a HD3000 user, and the dvb driver is "what you're supposed to use," and myth support of this approach is... |
| [17:32:00] | mchou: | rtsai: I wasnt paying attention :) |
| [17:32:00] | rtsai: | meh |
| [17:32:00] | obsidian: | zero documentation, write sql by hand... or undocumented scary script |
| [17:32:00] | rtsai: | obsidian, joev : there ya go |
| [17:32:00] | rtsai: | sql is not that scary |
| [17:32:00] | mchou: | the script is not scary :) |
| [17:32:00] | obsidian: | i agree, not for you and I |
| [17:32:00] | rtsai: | but you get what you pay for |
| [17:32:00] | mchou: | just dont wanna deal w/ dumbass folks is all :) |
| [17:33:00] | obsidian: | i agree with that too, but it tells me there must only be like a dozen other hd3000 owners for nobody to have proposed a better way yet (patch incl) |
| [17:33:00] | rtsai: | easier to muck with sql for a few minute just once, than it is to spend hours writing setup code |
| [17:33:00] | obsidian: | easier for you and I, anyway |
| [17:33:00] | joev: | rtsai, I don't have a dvb_scanned column in my channel table |
| [17:33:00] | rtsai: | I would say HD-3000 people are early adopters who are willing to figure thing out |
| [17:33:00] | joev: | dvb-scanned that is |
| [17:33:00] | rtsai: | joev: neither do i |
| [17:33:00] | obsidian: | that's true... I'm just lamenting that there must not be very many early adopters, either :/ |
| [17:33:00] | mchou: | this issue doesnt only affect hd3k users, btw :) |
| [17:34:00] | mchou: | also plagues air2pc users :) |
| [17:34:00] | joev: | so where do I find those values to put into the xmltvid column? |
| [17:34:00] | obsidian: | it's another column in the table I assume |
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| [17:35:00] | mchou: | sigh, just use xris script already, will ya? |
| [17:35:00] | obsidian: | haha |
| [17:35:00] | mchou: | it's all be figured out. |
| [17:35:00] | obsidian: | where is this script hiding anyway? |
| [17:35:00] | mchou: | been* |
| [17:35:00] | mchou: | ask xris :) |
| [17:35:00] | joev: | tired of running scripts that keep bombing |
| [17:35:00] | joev: | though I haven tried this one yet |
| [17:35:00] | mchou: | this script doesnt bomb. |
| [17:35:00] | obsidian: | someone set us up the bomb |
| [17:36:00] | obsidian: | hey mchou, set us up the bomb |
| [17:36:00] | mchou: | unless you screwed up :) |
| [17:36:00] | obsidian: | :) |
| [17:36:00] | joev: | odsidian, google xris petersen |
| [17:36:00] | joev: | you will find a link to chris petersen mythtvinfo |
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| [17:37:00] | joev: | it's like the fourth result |
| [17:37:00] | joev: | rtsai, where do I find those zap2it xmltvids to input into my channel table |
| [17:37:00] | obsidian: | joev, I'm just guessing here but |
| [17:38:00] | obsidian: | you should have two sets of channels in your channels table |
| [17:38:00] | obsidian: | one set is from the zap2it feed, that's the one that should have the ids |
| [17:38:00] | joev: | ahhh, you my the ones i removed this moring after doing a full scan |
| [17:39:00] | joev: | ok, gonna run the full scan again |
| [17:39:00] | rtsai: | the second set should be from your DVB scan (no xmltvids) |
| [17:39:00] | obsidian: | yeah |
| [17:40:00] | rtsai: | then you copy the xmltvds from the zap2it entries (typically have channel numbers of "4_1", etc.) into the DVB ones (typically don't have the "_" character) |
| [17:40:00] | rtsai: | then you should be set; mythfilldatabase will see the xmltvids already present and not re-populate you channel table |
| [17:40:00] | obsidian: | wow I just read your script |
| [17:40:00] | obsidian: | it is magical! |
| [17:40:00] | obsidian: | thanks you :D |
| [17:41:00] | mchou: | obsidian: http://forevermore.net/files/mythtv_misc/hdtvscan2dd.pl.txt |
| [17:41:00] | obsidian: | yeah that's the one |
| [17:41:00] | joev: | do you keep both setsh of data? |
| [17:41:00] | joev: | my "_" did not have any xmltids |
| [17:42:00] | rtsai: | once you've copied over the xmltvids, you can delete the original zap2it channels |
| [17:42:00] | obsidian: | I think after you're done you can get rid of the |
| [17:42:00] | obsidian: | yeah |
| [17:42:00] | obsidian: | :) |
| [17:42:00] | obsidian: | or in the case of the script it looks like you do it the other way around |
| [17:42:00] | mchou: | dudes, just try the script already :) |
| [17:42:00] | obsidian: | haha |
| [17:42:00] | obsidian: | ok |
| [17:42:00] | obsidian: | brb |
| [17:42:00] | rtsai: | desc videosource; |
| [17:43:00] | rtsai: | oops |
| [17:44:00] | rtsai: | nice script |
| [17:45:00] | mchou: | rtsai: bah. I'm a bash person myself. |
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| [17:45:00] | mchou: | xris' script is too much "overhead" :) |
| [17:46:00] | mchou: | Requires DBI. |
| [17:46:00] | mchou: | who has time for that :) |
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| [17:46:00] | mchou: | bash dont need such overhead :) |
| [17:46:00] | rtsai: | who has time to learn bash? :) |
| [17:47:00] | GeckoFiend: | riiiiiiiight |
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| [17:47:00] | mchou: | you ont need to learn bash to execute script :) |
| [17:47:00] | mchou: | dont* |
| [17:47:00] | rtsai: | i need to learn bash to trust your script :) |
| [17:47:00] | mchou: | haha! |
| [17:47:00] | mchou: | set off a few fork bombs :) |
| [17:47:00] | joev: | after rerunning the full scan, I did not get all the other channels like I did last night |
| [17:48:00] | rtsai: | I see 3 DELETE and UPDATE statements in there, in scary CAPS |
| [17:48:00] | mchou: | so? |
| [17:48:00] | rtsai: | joev: yeah, scanning can screw you over if atmospheric conditions aren't exactly right. I had to try a few times to get all the channels I knew I could get. |
| [17:48:00] | GeckoFiend: | not to mention the fact that if you have a full working install of Myth you have the reqs for xris's script |
| [17:49:00] | mchou: | GeckoFiend: ?? |
| [17:49:00] | mchou: | myth users Perl:DBI? |
| [17:49:00] | mchou: | uses* |
| [17:50:00] | rtsai: | anyone use xscreensaver? "Grab desktop images" seems to not want to grab the paused-TV image (it correctly grabs mythtv GUI screens) |
| [17:50:00] | GeckoFiend: | could have sworn one of the plugins had a persl script that uses it. |
| [17:50:00] | joev: | i just keep ending up with the "_" channels |
| [17:51:00] | rtsai: | joev: from zap2it or DVB scanning? |
| [17:51:00] | sphing: | is i2c in linux the same as i-squared-c |
| [17:51:00] | GeckoFiend: | rtsai you *can't* grab the live tv image unless you disable Xv |
| [17:51:00] | joev: | dvb scanning from mythtv-setup |
| [17:51:00] | rtsai: | GeckoFiend: I mean when watching recorded TV. But it sounds like XV is the thing that xscreensaver doesn't like? |
| [17:52:00] | mchou: | sphing: yup |
| [17:52:00] | rtsai: | joev: it sounds like dvb scanning is not picking up any new channels. Might be simpler to blow away your channel settings in mythtv-setup and start over |
| [17:52:00] | joev: | will try that |
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| [17:53:00] | GeckoFiend: | rtsai the "Grab desktop images" works in the same way that you would take a screenshot in Gimp for example... All it can do is end up with a crab of the color key not the image |
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| [17:55:00] | rtsai: | GeckoFiend: i don't know anything about graphics programming (nor have I used gimp), but it sounds like the "grab" functionality only operates in some visual plane used by the myth GUI but is not used when watching TV or watching recordings (e.g., XV)? |
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| [17:56:00] | GeckoFiend: | rtsai that's close enough |
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| [17:56:00] | rtsai: | GeckoFiend: :) thanks |
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| [18:03:00] | joev: | no I have NO channels after scanning |
| [18:04:00] | joev: | actually now |
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| [18:04:00] | rtsai: | So you have something wrong witha DVB scanning |
| [18:05:00] | rtsai: | You can always get the zap2it channels when you run mythfilldatabase |
| [18:05:00] | mchou: | joev: where you live? |
| [18:05:00] | rtsai: | does azap work? |
| [18:05:00] | joev: | no. problem with the perl scrit |
| [18:05:00] | mchou: | yeah, azap better work...... |
| [18:05:00] | rtsai: | joev: USA? |
| [18:05:00] | joev: | salt lake city, UT 84103 |
| [18:06:00] | mchou: | joev: how far are tv towere? |
| [18:06:00] | mchou: | towers* |
| [18:06:00] | joev: | close |
| [18:06:00] | mchou: | then aap better work :) |
| [18:06:00] | joev: | GREAT reception on STB |
| [18:06:00] | mchou: | aap* |
| [18:06:00] | rtsai: | joev: I'd download the CVS sources to azap (I think it's called "dvb-apps") and built it |
| [18:06:00] | mchou: | azap* |
| [18:06:00] | rtsai: | you'll get compile brekage, but it'll have gone far enough to build "azap". |
| [18:06:00] | joev: | did it |
| [18:07:00] | mchou: | azap compile didnt break for me. |
| [18:07:00] | rtsai: | right azap works, later stuff breaks |
| [18:07:00] | joev: | problem when I run the perl script |
| [18:07:00] | rtsai: | did you make a channels.conf? |
| [18:07:00] | rtsai: | ah |
| [18:07:00] | joev: | cannot open new object line 86 |
| [18:07:00] | mchou: | joev: lol |
| [18:08:00] | joev: | i downloade XMLPath and XMLParser from CPAN and still cannot get the script to run |
| [18:08:00] | mchou: | huh??? |
| [18:08:00] | joev: | and perl is not a foreign language to me |
| [18:08:00] | rtsai: | i just did "apt-get libxml-xpath-perl" |
| [18:09:00] | mchou: | you need to d/l DBI, not XML* |
| [18:09:00] | Randall64: | just an obfuscated one |
| [18:09:00] | joev: | the channels conf does not use dbi? |
| [18:09:00] | rtsai: | i don't think so |
| [18:10:00] | mchou: | the script does not use channels.conf. |
| [18:10:00] | rtsai: | I just did "perl make_atsc_chanconf.pl 02199" (zip code) and it spits out a channels.conf |
| [18:10:00] | joev: | I get an error at line 86 |
| [18:10:00] | rtsai: | then you can say "azap WBZ" and it'll tell you if it can get that channel |
| [18:10:00] | rtsai: | perl --version? |
| [18:10:00] | mchou: | joev: which script you referring to?? |
| [18:11:00] | mchou: | make_atsc* or hdtvscan? |
| [18:11:00] | joev: | perl make_atsc_chanconf.pl for .azap |
| [18:11:00] | mchou: | sigh..... |
| [18:11:00] | joev: | sorry for the confusion mchou |
| [18:11:00] | mchou: | read the darn DVB instructions, will ya? |
| [18:12:00] | mchou: | it's not rocket science |
| [18:12:00] | joev: | which ones? |
| [18:12:00] | mchou: | the azap instructions. |
| [18:12:00] | joev: | I understand that |
| [18:12:00] | rtsai: | azap won't work without a channels.conf, and he's haveing trouble making that |
| [18:12:00] | joev: | and I did I can only say what has happened to me |
| [18:12:00] | rtsai: | joev: what disro linux? You might have flubbed the CPAN download |
| [18:13:00] | mchou: | lol. "Overhead" |
| [18:13:00] | joev: | SuSE 9.2 |
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| [18:13:00] | mchou: | Bash, guranteed to work :) |
| [18:13:00] | mchou: | guranteed :) |
| [18:13:00] | rtsai: | rpm or deb? |
| [18:13:00] | mchou: | bah!! |
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| [18:13:00] | joev: | rpm but I usually build the binaries |
| [18:14:00] | rtsai: | hmm. My apt picked up "libxml-xpath-perl" and "libxml-parser-perl" |
| [18:14:00] | rtsai: | it sounds like you got those two |
| [18:14:00] | joev: | downloaded from cpan, ran perl Makefile.pl, make, make test, make install |
| [18:14:00] | rtsai: | I don't think that make_atsc_chanconf.pl script uses dbi |
| [18:15:00] | joev: | no problems on either on |
| [18:15:00] | rtsai: | all it does it go to antennaweb.org and grab stuff |
| [18:15:00] | mchou: | rtsai: no, it doesnt. |
| [18:15:00] | rtsai: | eh? I'm reading it right now |
| [18:15:00] | mchou: | rtsai: I thought joev meant xris/my script earlier...... |
| [18:15:00] | rtsai: | no, we're way beyond that |
| [18:15:00] | rtsai: | (I think, joev?) |
| [18:16:00] | joev: | yes |
| [18:16:00] | ** rtsai slaps mchou with trout ** | |
| [18:16:00] | mchou: | huh??? |
| [18:16:00] | mchou: | you guys should had azap working to begin with (b4 myth) |
| [18:16:00] | rtsai: | we're trying to get aza pto work. I think your bash/dbi/xris script thing is for merging dvb-scan results with zap2it mythfilldatabase results |
| [18:17:00] | rtsai: | yeh, just figured out what was wrong for joev |
| [18:17:00] | rtsai: | so dealing with that |
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| [18:17:00] | rtsai: | [I guess I meant "way *before* that", not way "beyond" :)] |
| [18:17:00] | mchou: | exactly :0 |
| [18:18:00] | rtsai: | joev: maybe the RPM way of getting your xml goop perl packages will get you exactly what you need. |
| [18:18:00] | mchou: | sigh..... |
| [18:18:00] | rtsai: | otherwise, here is a present: |
| [18:18:00] | mchou: | rtsai: yeah, generat his channels.conf for him :0 |
| [18:19:00] | mchou: | :) |
| [18:19:00] | rtsai: | yeah, just /q'd him |
| [18:19:00] | mchou: | but he better have azap working b4 doing anything...... |
| [18:19:00] | rtsai: | yeh |
| [18:20:00] | joev: | THANK YOU |
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| [18:21:00] | joev: | the folks at the pchdtv forum said that once the drivers were configured, just had to move into myth setup |
| [18:21:00] | joev: | was that some foul info |
| [18:21:00] | rtsai: | I still recommend that you get azap working, which requires you figure out what perl goop you need to get |
| [18:21:00] | mchou: | no, it was essentially correct :) |
| [18:21:00] | joev: | I will |
| [18:22:00] | mchou: | joev: you mormon? |
| [18:22:00] | joev: | nahhhh |
| [18:22:00] | joev: | originally from NYC |
| [18:22:00] | mchou: | haha!! |
| [18:22:00] | mchou: | same here. |
| [18:23:00] | joev: | where are you now? |
| [18:23:00] | mchou: | utah still has blue laws man..... |
| [18:23:00] | mchou: | SFO. |
| [18:23:00] | joev: | been in salt lake for about a year and a half |
| [18:23:00] | rtsai: | utah has good snow |
| [18:24:00] | mchou: | joev: I was about to say I thought mormons abstained from TV :) |
| [18:24:00] | joev: | yeah but I can go rock climbing/mountain bike/etc and still go out for dinner with friends on |
| [18:24:00] | joev: | nope, just watch the family values stations |
| [18:24:00] | joev: | GREAT snow |
| [18:25:00] | joev: | I kinda got hooked on knee deep powder |
| [18:25:00] | mchou: | skiing or boardin' ? |
| [18:25:00] | joev: | plus the highest HDTV towers in the continnetal 48 |
| [18:25:00] | rtsai: | mchou: that would be "riding" :) |
| [18:25:00] | joev: | skiing |
| [18:25:00] | joev: | i tried boarding about 12 years ago |
| [18:25:00] | joev: | those darn things didn't ride like my surfboard |
| [18:26:00] | mchou: | haha!! |
| [18:26:00] | joev: | my climbing buddies would get pissed when whe would go do glacier climbs |
| [18:26:00] | mchou: | joev: you have multipath in SLC? |
| [18:26:00] | mchou: | joev: why? |
| [18:26:00] | joev: | "if you knew how to ski we wouldn't have to walk" |
| [18:26:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [18:27:00] | joev: | no multipath |
| [18:27:00] | linagee: | http://img299.echo.cx/img299/2667/downloadpenis8sa.jpg |
| [18:27:00] | mchou: | joev: you dont live in a canyon? |
| [18:27:00] | joev: | so, I figured I'd learn to ski this past winter |
| [18:27:00] | joev: | nope, salt lake city proper |
| [18:27:00] | joev: | please it's small enough |
| [18:28:00] | mchou: | haha!! |
| [18:28:00] | joev: | couldn't deal with suburbia |
| [18:28:00] | joev: | I was actuallye pulled over by a motorcycle cop on my way to work the other morning |
| [18:28:00] | joev: | I ride my bicycle |
| [18:28:00] | mchou: | what for? |
| [18:29:00] | mchou: | busting a red light? |
| [18:29:00] | joev: | he didnot like the stop I made at the red light and my bike does not have lights on it |
| [18:29:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [18:29:00] | mchou: | just hassling ya. |
| [18:29:00] | rtsai: | bike lights are important, though (I blow through red lights) |
| [18:29:00] | joev: | he neglected to see that it was a fixed gear without brakes though |
| [18:29:00] | mchou: | joev: I used to be a bike messenger in NYC :) |
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| [18:30:00] | mchou: | hey, you tooo then :) |
| [18:30:00] | joev: | me too, many years ago |
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| [18:30:00] | mchou: | nice :) |
| [18:30:00] | joev: | fixies are always the bike of choice in NYC |
| [18:30:00] | mchou: | joev: the cop probably never seen a fixie in his life :) |
| [18:31:00] | mchou: | even kiddie bikes have 3 speeds :) |
| [18:31:00] | joev: | there's a small group of us here. Not many messengers though |
| [18:31:00] | joev: | hehehehe |
| [18:31:00] | joev: | I'm trying to find out about critcal mass |
| [18:31:00] | joev: | rumor is they do exist round here |
| [18:32:00] | mchou: | does your frame have inner tube wrapped all over? :) |
| [18:32:00] | joev: | not this one |
| [18:32:00] | joev: | I don't need to carry 30 pounds worth of lock either ;) |
| [18:32:00] | mchou: | joev: you exchange your kryptonite lock? |
| [18:33:00] | mchou: | joev: that's part of training :) |
| [18:33:00] | joev: | nope, still got the case hardened chain and the kryptonite |
| [18:33:00] | mchou: | better exchange it dude. |
| [18:34:00] | mchou: | bic pen can pick it. |
| [18:34:00] | joev: | no way |
| [18:34:00] | joev: | never now when the natives might get restless |
| [18:34:00] | mchou: | huh?? |
| [18:34:00] | joev: | my locks never failed me in over 15 years on NYC cylcling |
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| [18:35:00] | mchou: | joev, you havent heard??? |
| [18:35:00] | joev: | what?????? |
| [18:35:00] | mchou: | http://www.engadget.com/entry/7796925370303347/ |
| [18:35:00] | mchou: | http://www.kryptonitelock.com/inetisscripts/a . . . tn=home_home |
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| [18:36:00] | joev: | hmmmmmmmm |
| [18:36:00] | joev: | thanks |
| [18:36:00] | mchou: | watch the video.... |
| [18:36:00] | mchou: | no joke. |
| [18:37:00] | joev: | will do when I have some more time |
| [18:37:00] | joev: | thanks for all the help this morning |
| [18:37:00] | joev: | I'll be back at this tonight after work |
| [18:37:00] | rtsai: | on saturday? |
| [18:37:00] | mchou: | work?? on a sat? |
| [18:37:00] | joev: | yeahhhhh |
| [18:38:00] | joev: | those bloddy sales guys all sold projects do 1 August |
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| [18:38:00] | joev: | I gotta go make em all deliverable on time |
| [18:39:00] | joev: | cath you all later |
| [18:39:00] | joev: | again THANKS for all the help this morning |
| [18:39:00] | _JohnL: | whats the default name for the first xserver on xwindows? I'm trying to set it up so that I can change the nvidia settings remotely with VNC, but i dont know which server to tell nvidia-settings to control |
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| [18:40:00] | _JohnL: | why did that just cut off like half of what i typed |
| [18:43:00] | Randall64: | Perhaps there are limits. |
| [18:49:00] | Ashlar: | anyone messed with the mythwifi plugin? |
| [18:49:00] | _JohnL: | nope |
| [18:49:00] | _JohnL: | wifi blows in luinux, i dont even mess with it :/ |
| [18:49:00] | _JohnL: | is there a way to list the open Xservers at the command line or something? |
| [18:50:00] | _JohnL: | ... i know this isnt directly myth based question.... sorry |
| [18:52:00] | crash-x: | does someone know a really really simple myth plugin |
| [18:55:00] | _JohnL: | simple myth plugin? |
| [18:55:00] | crash-x: | yes just to understand how to write plugins |
| [18:56:00] | crash-x: | a hello world or something like that |
| [18:56:00] | crash-x: | just to get the basics |
| [18:56:00] | crash-x: | without spending hours of reading mythtv source |
| [18:56:00] | crash-x: | ;) |
| [18:58:00] | _JohnL: | i dont know |
| [18:58:00] | _JohnL: | whats yiour idea for a plugin? |
| [18:59:00] | crash-x: | an telephonebook |
| [19:00:00] | _JohnL: | ahh |
| [19:00:00] | crash-x: | i want to make it a client for my voip box so it could send to the box "dial the no xxxxx" so dont need to type the number |
| [19:00:00] | crash-x: | ;) |
| [19:00:00] | stoffel: | uh? mythphone does have a (simple) phonebook. and you can even use it as a telephone |
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| [19:01:00] | _JohnL: | nvidia-settings --ctrl-display localhost:0 <--- why cant nvidia-settings open the first xserver with this? |
| [19:02:00] | Randall64: | Maybe it's not listening to tcp |
| [19:02:00] | crash-x: | stoffel: yes but its not what i wnat |
| [19:02:00] | crash-x: | i want to call with my telephone and not with my pc |
| [19:02:00] | xlizard: | hi |
| [19:02:00] | crash-x: | hi |
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| [19:04:00] | xlizard: | i have problems whith mythfilldatabase ... |
| [19:04:00] | _JohnL: | Randall – if i tell it to open localhost:1 it will open the vnc server but i cant do anything because its not running on the nvidia card |
| [19:04:00] | _JohnL: | i gotta mess with this later anyways |
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| [19:06:00] | xlizard: | when i start it, it will begin to fetch a channellist with xmltv_de_tvtoday ... seems it works, but than it is grabbing some data ... for ~ 30 -50 min. after that it benins again ... looping ... |
| [19:07:00] | xlizard: | currently i have 14,654 records in database-table program .... |
| [19:07:00] | stoffel: | xlizard: can you put tv_grab_de_tvtoday's log messages online? |
| [19:08:00] | xlizard: | stoffel, where i can find this logfile? |
| [19:08:00] | xlizard: | did you mean STDOUT/ |
| [19:08:00] | xlizard: | ? |
| [19:08:00] | stoffel: | xlizard: yeah |
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| [19:10:00] | Johnny_Quest: | im having a problem with my new graphics card and mythtv |
| [19:10:00] | xlizard: | umpf ... im afaid ... but i closed the terminal whinin frustration ... will start it again :) |
| [19:10:00] | Johnny_Quest: | when i go to watch live tv or anything, my monitor powers down and all iget is sound and then if i hit esc the screen stays black |
| [19:11:00] | Johnny_Quest: | everything worked fine before i changed graphics cards.. |
| [19:11:00] | xlizard: | Johnny_Quest, sounds like a X-server-problem |
| [19:27:00] | Johnny_Quest: | xsever? |
| [19:27:00] | Johnny_Quest: | server* |
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| [19:31:00] | t0t3r: | i just recompiles mythtv with dvb-eit enabled ... but i cant switch to epg over air |
| [19:32:00] | t0t3r: | so does dvb-t epg over air work with 0.18.1 |
| [19:33:00] | t0t3r: | and another thing ... is there a known bug concerning mythmusic and mp3 tags messed up |
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| [19:39:00] | t0t3r: | join #mythtv |
| [19:40:00] | stang: | Does anyone have mythtv working under Fedora Core 4? Or even compilied with gcc 4.0? |
| [19:40:00] | stoffel: | stang: compiled with gcc4 on debian unstable, works fine for me |
| [19:41:00] | stang: | stoffel, did you not have to make any changes to the source? |
| [19:41:00] | stoffel: | not at all |
| [19:41:00] | stang: | and did you use the released version or the latest cvs version? |
| [19:41:00] | stoffel: | i'm using svn btw |
| [19:42:00] | xlizard: | stoffel, http://furhome.net/b.txt |
| [19:44:00] | stoffel: | xlizard: hm, just leave it running and wait what happens, or run tv_grab_de_tvtoday manually and import the xml file with mythfilldatabase |
| [19:45:00] | xlizard: | stoffel, mmm .... i think i'm stupid ... "Fetching data for Sat Jun 25 2005" he is looping because it is for miltiple days ... (?) |
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| [19:50:00] | obsidian: | does anyone here use DVB? |
| [19:51:00] | JonK: | lets recap: kernel panic, bad |
| [19:51:00] | slide23: | Im in mythtv but i dont see where to tell it to use the Zap2It service |
| [19:51:00] | slide23: | er the mythtv-setup |
| [19:52:00] | JonK: | it's in mythtv-setup |
| [19:52:00] | JonK: | when you configure an input source |
| [19:52:00] | JonK: | to continue the recap: |
| [19:52:00] | JonK: | alcohol, good |
| [19:52:00] | JonK: | alcohol leading to kernel panic, bad |
| [19:52:00] | slide23: | hrm |
| [19:53:00] | JonK: | that's my recap of yesterday's events |
| [19:53:00] | rjune: | JonK: quit getting your computer drunk |
| [19:53:00] | JonK: | rm bzImage |
| [19:53:00] | JonK: | bad |
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| [19:54:00] | JonK: | but man, my system does not like the pvr500's |
| [19:54:00] | JonK: | using the latest version of ivtv, it hangs the system so hard, that turning it off doesn't fix it |
| [19:54:00] | JonK: | i have to actually remove the power cord, or power down the power supply |
| [19:56:00] | stoffel: | anyone knows how to disable the pc-speaker alarm triggered by a high-temperature alarm in lm-sensors? |
| [19:58:00] | rtsai: | why not just change the alam threshold? |
| [19:58:00] | stoffel: | b/c i don't want to set it too high either. |
| [19:59:00] | stoffel: | i might do that later, i just configured lm-sensors a few weeks ago |
| [19:59:00] | Chutt: | i'd just not run lm-sensors |
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| [19:59:00] | Chutt: | prone to incorrect readings, in my experience |
| [20:00:00] | Chutt: | it's fun to have your computer randomly shut itself down with no information in the logs =) |
| [20:00:00] | stoffel: | hehe |
| [20:00:00] | stoffel: | with 2.6.12 it shows the same temperatures as the bios does |
| [20:01:00] | rtsai: | I'd actually be curious how to turn them *on*. I have like 6 alarms going on :) |
| [20:02:00] | slide23: | wow i cant seem to get my screens resolution to bettter then 640x480 lol |
| [20:02:00] | rtsai: | I think I left out my pcspkr module |
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| [20:04:00] | godsmoke: | Chutt, could easily be a psu failure |
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| [20:12:00] | Chutt: | naw, that was a problem with lm_sensors |
| [20:12:00] | Chutt: | but, whatever, he left :p |
| [20:14:00] | stoffel: | what tools are there to take appr. action on a sensor alarm, like shutting down a system, send a warning mail or whatever? |
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| [20:20:00] | JonK: | so now trying again to build a 2.6.12 kernel, sans the beer |
| [20:21:00] | xlizard: | hmmm ... muthfilldb hat inserted much stuff (still running) ... but the relation betreen the channel and the programtable is not correct ... :( |
| [20:22:00] | Darby: | hi all. I'm very close to getting mythtv working with a pvr-350. When i copy video0 to video16, I can watch tv with sound and everything is great. I have X working and mythfrontend works great. When I try to watch tv form mythfrontend, it plays for a couple seconds and then freezes. Any ideas? |
| [20:26:00] | slide23: | This may be a stupid question, but can I use a WinTV card in linux? heh |
| [20:26:00] | Ashlar: | hrmm.. mythwifi actually works good |
| [20:26:00] | t0t3r: | ja |
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| [20:26:00] | slide23: | t0t3r, that for me? |
| [20:28:00] | hadeees: | Ashlar, it should, it injects right into the Qt events |
| [20:28:00] | xlizard: | slide23, winTV ... classic analog with v4l, dvb-card with 2.6 kernel or linuxTV drivers |
| [20:28:00] | slide23: | cool thanks :) hehe |
| [20:29:00] | hadeees: | slide23, just a heads up though, most people go with hardware mpeg2 cards |
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| [20:29:00] | xlizard: | mmmm 2005-06–25 20:24:56.935 Invalid file handle when opening /root/.mythtv/channels/sat1.gif. 0 retries remaining. \n ERROR: file I/O problem in 'safe_read()': Bad file descriptor |
| [20:29:00] | slide23: | like what? |
| [20:29:00] | hadeees: | slide23, like the pvr-259 |
| [20:29:00] | hadeees: | 250 |
| [20:29:00] | slide23: | mpeg2 is like 2 gigs per hour right? |
| [20:30:00] | hadeees: | slide23, that depends on your quality |
| [20:30:00] | hadeees: | slide23, but it uses hardly any cpu so thats why people like it |
| [20:30:00] | slide23: | i think i have a seperate hardware encoding card |
| [20:31:00] | hadeees: | slide23, huh? i don't know if that will work, i haven't heard anyone using a bttv card with another mpeg2 card |
| [20:31:00] | hadeees: | you sure about that |
| [20:31:00] | slide23: | Matrox MGA G400 |
| [20:31:00] | slide23: | hrm |
| [20:31:00] | slide23: | these 2 vid cards came together (have had em for a while) |
| [20:31:00] | slide23: | and one connects to the other |
| [20:33:00] | slide23: | but im not sure why lol, thats just the way they came |
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| [20:35:00] | Darby: | Any ideas why playing tv from mythfrontend keeps freezing after a few seconds? |
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| [20:37:00] | slide23: | Ok, one of the cards is a Creative Lab DXR3 |
| [20:38:00] | slide23: | and then the Matrox MGA G400 |
| [20:38:00] | slide23: | the matrox has its vga port going to the vga in port of the dxr3 |
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| [20:39:00] | nybble: | back.. |
| [20:39:00] | nybble: | wee |
| [20:42:00] | stoffel: | slide23: i believe that's a add-on module for dvd playback |
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| [20:42:00] | Randall64: | Which of you is running debian-amd64? |
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| [20:43:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [20:43:00] | slide23: | stoffel, so its not what i need? |
| [20:44:00] | nybble: | hey,, has anyone tried torrentocracy? |
| [20:44:00] | stoffel: | slide23: depends on what you need |
| [20:46:00] | slide23: | What do you mean. Like if i want to playback dvds? heh |
| [20:49:00] | xris: | nybble: I believe that it's still a taboo subject on the official chanels. |
| [20:49:00] | xlizard: | hmm ... how can i setup mythfrontend to use alsa-api exept /dev/dsp ? |
| [20:50:00] | xlizard: | oss even |
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| [21:00:00] | slide23: | xlizard, how do i get dvb-card? |
| [21:01:00] | laga: | you can exchange money for goods. |
| [21:02:00] | xlizard: | slide23: ?? do in a store and buy one ? |
| [21:02:00] | xlizard: | laga, baahh ... :) |
| [21:02:00] | slide23: | no, you said that for my WinTV card i need dvb-card with a 2.6 kernel |
| [21:02:00] | laga: | xlizard: beat you to it ;) |
| [21:03:00] | xlizard: | laga, tzt tz |
| [21:03:00] | xlizard: | slide23, no, i asked if you have an winTV classic, normal tv or a digital dvb-hard like winTV nexus |
| [21:03:00] | slide23: | oh |
| [21:04:00] | xlizard: | sorry for crappy english :) |
| [21:04:00] | slide23: | no question mark so i didnt know lol ;) |
| [21:04:00] | slide23: | I think i have the WinTV GO |
| [21:05:00] | slide23: | but its in the computer and i cant see it lol |
| [21:05:00] | xlizard: | GO ?! |
| [21:05:00] | xlizard: | is this pcmcia? |
| [21:05:00] | slide23: | erm no |
| [21:05:00] | slide23: | pci |
| [21:05:00] | xlizard: | mmm ... |
| [21:05:00] | slide23: | 1 sec lemmy get it out of the machine to verify |
| [21:05:00] | xlizard: | can you typein lspci and paste the winTV lines? |
| [21:06:00] | xlizard: | removing hardware is only for this guys with a screwdriver ... :) |
| [21:07:00] | slide23: | Its a "Hauppauge WinTV-Go TV Tuner Card 44801" |
| [21:07:00] | slide23: | i have many a screwdriver hehe |
| [21:08:00] | xlizard: | 2.4 or 2.6 kernel ? |
| [21:08:00] | slide23: | 2.6 |
| [21:08:00] | xlizard: | uh uh .... i do not have much experience |
| [21:09:00] | stang: | Has anyone run into the error that ld cannot find -lqt-mt while compiling mythtv? |
| [21:09:00] | slide23: | maybe i should just got pick up a better card hee |
| [21:09:00] | xlizard: | stang, install QT devel package |
| [21:09:00] | stang: | xlizard, it is |
| [21:09:00] | stang: | xlizard, it's not finding it for some reason thouhg |
| [21:10:00] | xlizard: | slide23, you have to enable v4l and support for bt878 |
| [21:10:00] | slide23: | where in the kernel config? |
| [21:10:00] | xlizard: | slide23, and support vor c2-bus ... |
| [21:10:00] | stang: | xlizard, "rpm -q qt-devel" gives me "qt-devel-3.3.4–14" |
| [21:11:00] | xlizard: | slide23, menuconfig: devicedriver -> media support -> video4linux ... or something like this :) |
| [21:11:00] | stang: | xlizard, and libqt-mt.so is located in /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib |
| [21:11:00] | xlizard: | stang, mmm ... run ldconfig and try again |
| [21:12:00] | xlizard: | pahaps spec. path to qt in configure-parameter |
| [21:12:00] | stang: | tried that and didn't work, may try it again though |
| [21:12:00] | slide23: | ok, im inside the "Video For Linux" but i dont see anything about v4l or bt878 |
| [21:12:00] | xlizard: | stang, make clean? |
| [21:12:00] | stoffel: | the qt header files are installed? |
| [21:13:00] | xlizard: | stoffel, seems like a linking problem :) |
| [21:13:00] | stang: | stoffel, qt header files are there |
| [21:14:00] | stang: | I'm 99% sure it's a linking prob, just wasn't sure how to go about fixing it |
| [21:15:00] | xlizard: | stang, try make clean an configure with the qt3-path parameter .... im not sure how it is called |
| [21:16:00] | stang: | xlizard, I'll give it a shot, i think it's --with-qt-libs= |
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| [21:22:00] | xlizard: | stang, sounds correct :) |
| [21:22:00] | stang: | actually, incase anyone cares, it's --with-qt-libraries= :-) |
| [21:22:00] | xlizard: | mmm ... i still have my logo-problem :( 2005-06–25 21:20:07.432 Invalid file handle when opening /root/.mythtv/channels/sat1.gif. 0 retries remaining. =n ERROR: file I/O problem in 'safe_read()': Bad file descriptor |
| [21:23:00] | stang: | can you view that gif? |
| [21:24:00] | xlizard: | stang, eog can view this, yes |
| [21:26:00] | xlizard: | mmm ... now everything stoped working :( |
| [21:26:00] | xlizard: | 2005-06–25 21:24:20.116 DVB#0 ERROR – No PIDS set, please correct your channel setup. |
| [21:28:00] | stang: | sorry I can't help you xlizard, this will be my first time to ever use mythtv :-) |
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| [21:30:00] | qzzt: | anyone help with an LxM config problem? |
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| [21:32:00] | qzzt: | I can no longer retreive info from tmsdatadirect.com after modifying my channel lineup |
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| [21:36:00] | obsidian: | strangest thing |
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| [21:36:00] | obsidian: | I switched from the old hd3000 drivers to the new dvb ones |
| [21:36:00] | obsidian: | now half the channels dont come in |
| [21:37:00] | obsidian: | or the sound is consistently weird |
| [21:37:00] | obsidian: | or the video consistently jerky, but only on channel 7 |
| [21:37:00] | obsidian: | and NBC has high signal strength, but myth wont tune it |
| [21:37:00] | obsidian: | meanwhile, channels 2, 7, and 9 are great |
| [21:37:00] | obsidian: | bizarre... |
| [21:37:00] | xlizard: | :( ... mythtv has the features i want ... vdr is working |
| [21:37:00] | obsidian: | I guess I have to downgrade |
| [21:38:00] | obsidian: | unless, anyone get the new HD3000 drivers working?> |
| [21:39:00] | xlizard: | obsidian, sounds like that you are known in mythtv |
| [21:39:00] | obsidian: | yeah, |
| [21:39:00] | obsidian: | I know it pretty well by now |
| [21:39:00] | xlizard: | after restarting mythbackend i get 2005-06–25 21:38:31.150 DVB#0 ERROR – No PIDS set, please correct your channel setup.\n2005-06–25 21:38:32.151 DVB#0 WARNING – No data from card in 1 second. |
| [21:39:00] | xlizard: | any idea? |
| [21:39:00] | obsidian: | yeah thats funny |
| [21:39:00] | obsidian: | they didn't really document anything to do with dvb did they? |
| [21:39:00] | xlizard: | no ... thats not funny :) |
| [21:40:00] | obsidian: | did you do a channel scan in mythtv-setup? |
| [21:40:00] | xlizard: | obsidian, yes ... and it worked ... but now ... it down not work anymore .... |
| [21:40:00] | xlizard: | and dont hurt me, but i didnt changed anything ... |
| [21:40:00] | obsidian: | that was going to be my question |
| [21:40:00] | obsidian: | I've had the same thing happen to me |
| [21:41:00] | xlizard: | mmm ... |
| [21:41:00] | obsidian: | I'm stumped, though |
| [21:41:00] | xlizard: | resoultion? |
| [21:41:00] | obsidian: | not the same exact thing |
| [21:41:00] | obsidian: | just, I've had the box work for months and then stop working out of the blue |
| [21:41:00] | obsidian: | your particular problem I've not seen yet |
| [21:46:00] | xlizard: | mmm http://www.pvrguide.no-ip.com/bbs-old/viewtopic.php?p=88559 |
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| [21:57:00] | Darby: | hi all. I'm very close to getting mythtv working with a pvr-350. When i copy video0 to video16, I can watch tv with sound and everything is great. I have X working and mythfrontend works great. When I try to watch tv form mythfrontend, it plays for a couple seconds and then freezes. Any ideas? |
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| [22:07:00] | sloPP: | oi |
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| [22:11:00] | t0t3r: | anyone has experience with epg over air? |
| [22:11:00] | stoffel: | t0t3r: beavis in #mythtv-de has |
| [22:12:00] | xris: | t0t3r: for dvb? at the moment, you need to tune into the channel for 30+ seconds. |
| [22:13:00] | swim: | hey folks, Im curious, I have all my music files in /myth/music/ and mythtv audio is set to look at that directory. But when I open the audio player nothing is listed in there |
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| [22:15:00] | splat1 is now known as splAt1 | |
| [22:19:00] | Ashlar: | swim: 'scan for new music' ? |
| [22:19:00] | splAt1 is now known as splat1 | |
| [22:19:00] | swim: | Ashlar, how do I do that? is that to be run from console? |
| [22:19:00] | Ashlar: | no, it's in the ui |
| [22:20:00] | Ashlar: | utilities, music tools, |
| [22:20:00] | Ashlar: | scna for new music |
| [22:20:00] | swim: | oh great thx :) |
| [22:20:00] | Ashlar: | np |
| [22:26:00] | swim: | are there any other themes laying around somewhere? |
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| [22:27:00] | swim: | other than the ones that come with knoppmythtv |
| [22:27:00] | t0t3r: | anyone one of u using id3 tags in myth? |
| [22:27:00] | fiber0pti: | I have a pentium 400Mhz and an ATI 9200. If I get the right tv tuner and decoder code will this config be sufficent? |
| [22:27:00] | GeckoFiend: | heh most are |
| [22:27:00] | t0t3r: | so are they messed up? |
| [22:28:00] | t0t3r: | i got a fuckin "0" before the filename even if i didnnt have any titlenumbers defined |
| [22:29:00] | mirak_: | hi |
| [22:29:00] | mirak_: | anyone have an nforce 2 sound card ? |
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| [22:33:00] | t0t3r: | sure |
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| [22:34:00] | mirak_: | t0t3r: with 5.1 ? |
| [22:34:00] | t0t3r: | digital yes |
| [22:34:00] | mirak_: | not analog ? |
| [22:34:00] | t0t3r: | nope |
| [22:34:00] | mirak_: | I have problem configuraing sound |
| [22:35:00] | mirak_: | volumes |
| [22:35:00] | t0t3r: | yeah its a mess |
| [22:36:00] | t0t3r: | digital out quality is superiour |
| [22:36:00] | t0t3r: | but u cant change volumes anymore |
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| [22:43:00] | smoke_: | where do i change the fonts for the xml menu? |
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| [22:46:00] | slide: | Is a Pinnacle Systems PCTV Pro card ok to use with mythtv? |
| [22:46:00] | swim: | anyone happen to use or have used a compaq ia-1 as a frontend to mythtv? |
| [22:46:00] | t0t3r: | everythings ok |
| [22:47:00] | slide: | t0t3r, well, i have a WinTV card and this Pinnacle PCTV Pro card, which would be better? |
| [22:47:00] | slide: | or maybe i should use both hehe |
| [22:47:00] | t0t3r: | wintv i think |
| [22:47:00] | ** slide cant find out how to get the wintv to work or setup, and i cant find anything on the net =\ ** | |
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| [23:04:00] | xlizard: | hey ... i found the problem! :)))) |
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| [23:06:00] | stoffel: | xlizard: cool, btw there's also #mythtv-de |
| [23:07:00] | xlizard: | stoffel, but its nearly empty :) |
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| [23:10:00] | laga: | xlizard: it's not. |
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| [23:21:00] | [311]: | does anyone have a good list of what tvcards work with myth? i've only been finding vague outlines but would like something solid as i will be using 2–3 of them |
| [23:24:00] | [311]: | anyone? and yes i've searched many times and found a few that aren't availble around here. |
| [23:28:00] | JohnnyQuest: | something solid and cheap would be a pvr-150 |
| [23:29:00] | [311]: | from what i've read the pvr-150 isn't supported? |
| [23:29:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it is |
| [23:29:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it is what i am using |
| [23:29:00] | [311]: | on which distro? |
| [23:30:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but, the pvr-250 has even more support.. |
| [23:30:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im using fc3 |
| [23:30:00] | xris: | [311]: distro doesn't matter. just need to get the right drivers. |
| [23:30:00] | xris: | 150 works great for me in fc3, too |
| [23:30:00] | [311]: | know of any cards in the $50-$70 area |
| [23:30:00] | [311]: | ? |
| [23:30:00] | xris: | [311]: pvr-150 |
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| [23:31:00] | JohnnyQuest: | pvr-150 you can get for around 60 on ebay |
| [23:31:00] | [311]: | pvr-150 is about 100–149 aorund here |
| [23:31:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i paid 100 cuz i wanted a remote |
| [23:31:00] | iznogood: | Hi all |
| [23:31:00] | JohnnyQuest: | dont buy it locally... |
| [23:31:00] | [311]: | theres a couple on ebay, but wont ship to canada |
| [23:31:00] | iznogood: | I have a short question |
| [23:31:00] | JohnnyQuest: | oo |
| [23:31:00] | [311]: | or want $20+ to ship it |
| [23:31:00] | JohnnyQuest: | pvr-150 is the best choice... |
| [23:31:00] | iznogood: | if one is looking for a remote control that can be used together with mythtv |
| [23:31:00] | iznogood: | which one would be a good choice |
| [23:32:00] | JohnnyQuest: | one that is compatable with lirc |
| [23:32:00] | [311]: | does the 150 have onboard mpeg2 encoding? |
| [23:32:00] | JohnnyQuest: | yes |
| [23:32:00] | xris: | [311]: yes |
| [23:32:00] | [311]: | okay, maybe ill see if i can find one |
| [23:32:00] | iznogood: | ok |
| [23:32:00] | JohnnyQuest: | iznogood, it just needs to be compatable with lirc |
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| [23:32:00] | [311]: | thanks alot |
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| [23:32:00] | iznogood: | Doe you know if the M$ mediacentre one is? |
| [23:32:00] | iznogood: | Because I have one laying around in a drawer |
| [23:33:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [23:33:00] | JohnnyQuest: | that will work |
| [23:33:00] | xris: | iznogood: if you want to build your own receiver, you can use pretty much anything you want. |
| [23:33:00] | JohnnyQuest: | you just need a receiver for it |
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| [23:35:00] | iznogood: | Ah ok, I'm looking to replace my sat receiver, vcr and stuff in 1 box, so |
| [23:35:00] | slide: | For WinTV cards i should install ivtv? |
| [23:35:00] | iznogood: | do you have some advice on which sat-receiver card is best used? |
| [23:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i dont have any.. |
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| [23:37:00] | iznogood: | Ok, Thnx for the advice sofar! |
| [23:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | what is an sat-reciever card? |
| [23:39:00] | iznogood: | I have a sattelite dish |
| [23:39:00] | JohnnyQuest: | o ok |
| [23:39:00] | iznogood: | receivercard, might be a to straight translation from Dutch |
| [23:39:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i dont have a clue.. |
| [23:40:00] | iznogood: | Probably all cards supported in the linux kernel will do I presume |
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| [23:48:00] | blues2: | hey guys, was wondering if anyone might have a clue about my current predicament : http://pastebin.com/303997 |
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| [23:50:00] | stoffel: | blues2: you know that mythtv is made up of a backend and a frontend? check the backend logs as well |
| [23:50:00] | mchou: | blues2: it's most likely ivtv misbehaving. try another version of ivtv. |
| [23:50:00] | blues2: | i did, nothing specatcular. |
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| [23:51:00] | JohnnyQuest: | what is the ip adress set as in the sttings? |
| [23:51:00] | blues2: | if it was ivtv, wouldn't i have toruble capturing video period? and isn't it odd that it works fine if i do a short capture session before i try to watch live tv? |
| [23:51:00] | blues2: | just localhost, front and back on same machine |
| [23:51:00] | mchou: | blues2: not necessarily. |
| [23:51:00] | blues2: | how do i check my version of ivtv? |
| [23:52:00] | mchou: | modinfo ivtv |
| [23:52:00] | blues2: | i'm using whatever i got from atrpms |
| [23:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | what card are you using? |
| [23:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and firmware makes a difference... |
| [23:52:00] | blues2: | pvr 250 |
| [23:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [23:52:00] | blues2: | all my specs i thought were relevant are contained in the post i linked to |
| [23:53:00] | stang: | Would appreciate it if someone pointed me in the right direction regarding this problem: http://pastebin.com/303998 fresh compile of mythtv on Fedora Core 4 |
| [23:54:00] | mchou: | stang: the first 2 lines tell all. |
| [23:54:00] | JohnnyQuest: | you got that when doing mythtvsetup? |
| [23:54:00] | stang: | JohnnyQuest, yes |
| [23:54:00] | blues2: | http://pastebin.com/303999 here is the output of modinfo ivtv |
| [23:55:00] | stang: | mchou, I thought so, but why didn't I get problems while compiling? |
| [23:56:00] | mchou: | cause a running db has nothing to do with a successful compile :) |
| [23:57:00] | stang: | So how do i go about getting that driver? |
| [23:57:00] | JohnnyQuest: | you need to have the backend running.. |
| [23:57:00] | stang: | is it part of qt? |
| [23:57:00] | stang: | oh |
| [23:57:00] | JohnnyQuest: | no |
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| [23:57:00] | JohnnyQuest: | if the backend isnt running, the db wont work.. |
| [23:57:00] | stang: | mythtvbackend gives me the same errors |
| [23:58:00] | mchou: | huh? |
| [23:58:00] | JohnnyQuest: | when you start the backend? |
| [23:58:00] | stang: | yes |
| [23:58:00] | blues2: | can anyone see anything wrong with my modinfo output? |
| [23:58:00] | JohnnyQuest: | then you need to install mysql |
| [23:58:00] | mchou: | he has run setup successful. How you expect him to run backend successfully??? |
| [23:58:00] | mchou: | hasnt* |
| [23:58:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i dunno... |
| [23:58:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i wasnt thinking |
| [23:59:00] | stang: | JohnnyQuest, mysql is installed and the mythconverg database is created |
| [23:59:00] | stang: | and running |
| [23:59:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i dunno.. |
| [23:59:00] | mchou: | you need the qt3-mysql rpm or whatever. |
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