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| [00:06:00] | ** Jouster is back (gone 03:37:19) ** | |
| [00:06:00] | Jouster: | Okay, woohoo! I've got __SOMETHING__ on screen. |
| [00:06:00] | Jouster: | Slight downside--what I have is... er.... nothing. |
| [00:06:00] | Jouster: | That is, it's quasi-random static. |
| [00:06:00] | Jouster: | Colorful static, though. |
| [00:06:00] | Jouster: | Purply/Reddish, depending on how you're looking at it. |
| [00:06:00] | jonK: | using what kind of setup? |
| [00:07:00] | Jouster: | Plextor ConvertX PX-TV402U |
| [00:07:00] | Jouster: | Connected via USB. |
| [00:07:00] | Jouster: | I moved hotplug ahead of Mythbackend startup in rc5.d to get it to this point. |
| [00:07:00] | jonK: | cool, I've been thinking about acquiring one of those |
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| [00:07:00] | Jouster: | It's a super-awesome unit. |
| [00:07:00] | Jouster: | Now I want it to work! |
| [00:07:00] | Jouster: | :-P |
| [00:07:00] | jonK: | what are you using to play it? |
| [00:08:00] | jonK: | err. to playback a video stream |
| [00:08:00] | Jouster: | Okay, I'm showing my Myth ignorance here--"MythFrontend" is my answer to that. |
| [00:08:00] | jonK: | that's works |
| [00:08:00] | Jouster: | I've got a tuner source on right now. |
| [00:08:00] | jonK: | and static? |
| [00:09:00] | jonK: | stupid question:do you have a cable line plugged into the wall and into theplextor? |
| [00:09:00] | Jouster: | heh |
| [00:09:00] | Jouster: | Well, I'm actually using rabbit ears. |
| [00:10:00] | Jouster: | But the composite, s-video, and tuner connections all look the exact same. |
| [00:10:00] | jonK: | can you change the channel in myth? |
| [00:10:00] | Jouster: | It's like the two (Plextor, Myth) are using different formats for the shared-memory area where they communicate. |
| [00:10:00] | Jouster: | Yeah, I think I can change it. |
| [00:10:00] | Jouster: | Just type in the number and hit enter, right? |
| [00:10:00] | jonK: | y |
| [00:11:00] | jonK: | make sure num lock on |
| [00:11:00] | Jouster: | Yep, I'm watching TV-3 right now. |
| [00:11:00] | Jouster: | No, really. |
| [00:11:00] | Jouster: | They're just broadcasting static. |
| [00:11:00] | ** Jouster whistles innocently. ** | |
| [00:12:00] | jonK: | err? |
| [00:12:00] | Jouster: | The alarm, in my mind, is that the composite video shows the same thing, when I know it should be showing something very different. |
| [00:12:00] | Jouster: | Well, I'm unsure where to look for errors. Mythfrontend sprouts them, as does /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log. |
| [00:12:00] | Jouster: | Which appeal to you? |
| [00:13:00] | Jouster: | Lots of "CheckChannel" errors in Mythbackend.log--perhaps related to me having only set up a single channel? |
| [00:14:00] | Jouster: | Then, "Error, couldn't find any available channels." |
| [00:14:00] | Jouster: | "Your database is most likely setup incorrectly." |
| [00:15:00] | Jouster: | And some stuff like "Channel(/dev/video0)::SwitchToInput(in 0, set ch): Error -1 while setting input (v2): Device or resource busy" |
| [00:15:00] | simon_c: | Hi All. |
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| [00:16:00] | simon_c: | Is there a standard place to upload myth RPMs ? I've rebuild some redhat RPMs as SuSE ones, and wondering where I can put them for others to use. |
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| [00:22:00] | Jouster: | What's the correct "channel" setting for the composite input? |
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| [00:27:00] | jonK: | jouster, i think the real error is "device or resource busy" |
| [00:27:00] | jonK: | what are you using for a driver, and what type of card did you specifiy in mythtv-setup? |
| [00:28:00] | Jouster: | Plextor ConvertX PX-TV402U via USB. |
| [00:28:00] | Jouster: | go7007 is the driver, but it's autodetected by hotplug. |
| [00:28:00] | Jouster: | I concur; "device or resource busy" strikes me as the real error, as well. |
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| [00:31:00] | Jouster: | So how do I debug "device or resource busy"? |
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| [00:35:00] | Agrajag-: | Jouster: lsof |
| [00:35:00] | Agrajag-: | can you dont pvmsg me |
| [00:36:00] | Jouster: | About a quadrillion entries. Anything you'd like? |
| [00:36:00] | Jouster: | Er, sorry. |
| [00:36:00] | Agrajag-: | well how about you look for whatever it is that's busy |
| [00:36:00] | Agrajag-: | and you'll see what's using it |
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| [00:38:00] | Jouster: | Nobody has /dev/video0 open. |
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| [00:41:00] | jonK: | does dev viddeo produce any actual output |
| [00:41:00] | jonK: | ? |
| [00:42:00] | jonK: | try cat /dev/video/ > test.mpg and see if you actually have a hot device? |
| [00:45:00] | Jouster: | Ooh, smart one! Let's play with that! Thanks... I'll be back if I get lost again! |
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| [00:51:00] | Jouster: | Hmm, okay. /dev/video0 doesn't seem to want to push hot. I've modprobe'd all the drivers for it, just to be extra sure, and it still won't do anything for me. |
| [00:52:00] | Jouster: | ... /sys/class/video4linux/video0/name = go7007 |
| [00:52:00] | Jouster: | and /sys/class/video4linux/video0/dev = 81:0, which is correctly set on /dev/video0 |
| [00:53:00] | Jouster: | root@nyctv:~# cat /dev/video0 |
| [00:53:00] | Jouster: | cat: /dev/video0: Invalid argument |
| [00:53:00] | Chutt: | err, you can't just cat it |
| [00:54:00] | Jouster: | "<jonK> try cat /dev/video/ > test.mpg" |
| [00:54:00] | iggy: | you may want to try finding help amongst people that have actually used this product |
| [00:54:00] | Jouster: | As it didn't make sense to cat a directory, I [perhaps-incorrectly] assumed he meant /dev/video0 |
| [00:55:00] | Jouster: | iggy: ?? |
| [00:55:00] | iggy: | I didn't st-st-st-stutter |
| [00:56:00] | Jouster: | iggy: jonK, at the absolutely least, seems to be exceedingly knowledgeable. Others definitely have had some good points to make. |
| [00:56:00] | Jouster: | iggy: As such--am I in the incorrect channel, and have just happened to find experienced people? |
| [00:56:00] | Jouster: | iggy: Or are you insulting all of the other people on the channel? |
| [00:56:00] | iggy: | well, your problem doesn't seem to be mythtv specific |
| [00:57:00] | iggy: | I'm actually trying to be helpful... but I guess I'll just stick with being an asshole from now on |
| [00:57:00] | Jouster: | I concur, at this point. But it's a "stock" KnoppMyth install; I would have imagined that I'd have found a fair number of people with similar boxen here. |
| [00:58:00] | Jouster: | So, even now that I know it's not Myth-specific, it was my hope that this continued to be the place to search for debugging advice and help. |
| [00:58:00] | iggy: | it's your "card" that's the oddity |
| [00:59:00] | Jouster: | Do you have a suggestion for a more-knowledgeable pool of users to ask? |
| [00:59:00] | Jouster: | Or is it your contention that, whether or not such a pool exists, my question is nonetheless inapproriate for this one? |
| [00:59:00] | iggy: | there's got to be some mailing list or irc channel specific to the card itself |
| [00:59:00] | iggy: | i.e. pvr-x50 cards have #ivtv-dev |
| [01:00:00] | Jouster: | Ooh, cool. |
| [01:01:00] | Jouster: | See http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/index.php?date=2005-06-12 for evidence of my card being supported, BTW. |
| [01:02:00] | iggy: | I imagine it's supported... at least in mpeg2 mode if nothing else |
| [01:03:00] | Jouster: | For that matter, http://blog.zoeloelip.be/index.php/page/2/ got it to work, apparently. |
| [01:03:00] | Jouster: | It seems well-supported. |
| [01:03:00] | Jouster: | It just won't work for me. |
| [01:03:00] | iggy: | I don't think I'd go so far as to say well supported |
| [01:03:00] | iggy: | I don't even consider the pvr-x50's to be well supported |
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| [01:04:00] | iggy: | mostly because the driver is very young |
| [01:04:00] | Jouster: | Well, the driver for these units is actually written by Plextor themselves. |
| [01:05:00] | iggy: | promise writes some of their own drivers too |
| [01:05:00] | iggy: | they are still shitty drivers |
| [01:05:00] | Jouster: | Okay, but now we're getting a little off of the topic, no? |
| [01:05:00] | Chutt: | the driver wasn't written by plextor |
| [01:05:00] | iggy: | no more than before |
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| [01:10:00] | Jouster: | Chutt: It was written by the h/w developers, though, no? |
| [01:10:00] | Chutt: | nope |
| [01:10:00] | smoke_: | anyone here using a firefly remote control? |
| [01:10:00] | ** Jouster learns more? ** | |
| [01:10:00] | Jouster: | By whom was it written? |
| [01:10:00] | Chutt: | someone plextor paid to do so |
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| [01:11:00] | Jouster: | Er, okay, fine. |
| [01:11:00] | Jouster: | But they had access to hardware specs. No reverse-engineering. |
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| [01:11:00] | Chutt: | sure |
| [01:11:00] | Chutt: | but it still wasn't written by plextor, or the hardware developers |
| [01:14:00] | Jouster: | Okay, I can accept that contention. |
| [01:14:00] | Chutt: | it's not a contention |
| [01:14:00] | Chutt: | that's fact. |
| [01:14:00] | Jouster: | How does that fold back on whether or not the unit is well-supported, though? |
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| [01:15:00] | Chutt: | it doesn't |
| [01:15:00] | Chutt: | you're the one who brought it up |
| [01:15:00] | Jouster: | Well, I argue that it's merely a contention because I disagree with it on a philosophical level; by your logic, Plextor has never released a driver, ever. |
| [01:15:00] | Chutt: | no |
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| [01:15:00] | Chutt: | this was an outside consulting guy that's unrelated to plextor that wrote the driver |
| [01:15:00] | Chutt: | not an internal team |
| [01:16:00] | term: | whee |
| [01:16:00] | Jouster: | Ah. That wasn't part of your original statement of support. |
| [01:16:00] | Jouster: | Very well, your contention is now fact. |
| [01:16:00] | Chutt: | because i thought it'd be obvious to anyone with half a brain |
| [01:16:00] | Chutt: | it's always been fact. |
| [01:17:00] | Chutt: | it doesn't magically become so just because you say so |
| [01:17:00] | laptopconte: | For some reason, when i'm recording (now), i'm not getting the 'you're recording now' error message when i try to 'watch tv' |
| [01:18:00] | Jouster: | It becomes fact when it's true. It becomes fact to me, however, only once I accept it. It may be a fact that you're wearing blue underwear right now, but I won't accept that as a fact--and, therefore, in my mind it is _NOT_ a fact--until I have more proof than your simple contention that that is the case. |
| [01:18:00] | Jouster: | Each person has a unique view of "fact". |
| [01:18:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [01:19:00] | Jouster: | The universe also has a view of "fact" that is universally correct. |
| [01:19:00] | Chutt: | so it's fact that you're an idiot? |
| [01:19:00] | Jouster: | Perhaps to you. |
| [01:19:00] | laptopconte: | is there a flag i can set in the database or something? |
| [01:19:00] | Agrajag-: | lol |
| [01:19:00] | Jouster: | To me, it is definitely a fact; I know that my knowledge is a relatively small subset of all knowledge available in the world. |
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| [01:20:00] | Jouster: | Nonetheless, I must act as though that is not the case, because, otherwise, those with even smaller subsets would have control. |
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| [01:20:00] | Agrajag-: | joins rather |
| [01:21:00] | Jouster: | That is, those with knowledge that they don't have knowledge must actively pursue activities contrary to the knowledge that they have. |
| [01:21:00] | Chutt: | you'd get better discussion there |
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| [01:21:00] | Jouster: | lol |
| [01:21:00] | Jouster: | I didn't start it! :-P |
| [01:21:00] | hubcap: | hiya |
| [01:21:00] | Chutt: | sure you did. |
| [01:21:00] | Jouster: | Both of my housemates are postgrad philosophy majors. |
| [01:21:00] | Jouster: | I fall into it all too easily. ;) |
| [01:23:00] | hubcap: | whats up guys |
| [01:23:00] | Jouster: | So what is __THE__ best-supported card/dongle/small, pci-compliant bitmonkey? |
| [01:23:00] | Jouster: | I'm looking for MJPEG output. |
| [01:24:00] | Chutt: | well, nothing much will give you mjpeg anymore |
| [01:24:00] | Chutt: | so you'll probably want to change your requirements. |
| [01:24:00] | Jouster: | The Plextor unit does. |
| [01:24:00] | Chutt: | not really |
| [01:24:00] | Jouster: | And nothing else is legal in courtrooms, because it doesn't store the full frame for each frame. |
| [01:24:00] | Chutt: | it does really crappy mjpeg, and not in myth. |
| [01:24:00] | Chutt: | myth only uses its mpeg4 support. |
| [01:25:00] | Jouster: | Interesting. |
| [01:25:00] | iggy: | and it probably only does mjpeg by converting the mpeg/divx to mjpeg in software |
| [01:25:00] | Chutt: | naw |
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| [01:26:00] | Chutt: | just disabled p/b frames |
| [01:26:00] | Chutt: | but the hardware starts failing at high bitrates, and you need high bitrates with mjpeg |
| [01:26:00] | Jouster: | "p/b"? |
| [01:27:00] | iggy: | so, his court room requirement probably wouldn't be fulfilled |
| [01:27:00] | Chutt: | not with a usb capture card, no |
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| [01:28:00] | hubcap: | I'm guessing Hauppague WinTV pvr 150 annd hauppague pvr 150 are one and the same ? |
| [01:28:00] | iggy: | should be |
| [01:28:00] | iggy: | but hauppauge are masters of obscure and random naming schemes |
| [01:28:00] | hubcap: | lol |
| [01:29:00] | emes: | i'm getting a segfault when playing any video, gentoo mythtv-0.18.1-r2 on ppc |
| [01:29:00] | hubcap: | never tried mythtv before, and dont' wanna get a card that wont work |
| [01:29:00] | iggy: | emes: try without Gentoo and then without ppc |
| [01:29:00] | Jouster: | Woah! |
| [01:29:00] | Jouster: | It works! |
| [01:30:00] | emes: | iggy: works on os x |
| [01:30:00] | iggy: | and? |
| [01:30:00] | Jouster: | IT WORKS IT WORKS IT WORKS |
| [01:30:00] | emes: | and not on linux |
| [01:30:00] | ** Jouster dies ** | |
| [01:30:00] | Jouster: | IT WORKS! |
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| [01:30:00] | ** Jouster finishes hyperventilating now. ** | |
| [01:31:00] | iggy: | emes: okay, I said try without Gentoo first, tried that yet? |
| [01:31:00] | emes: | iggy: yes, on os x |
| [01:31:00] | iggy: | okay... |
| [01:31:00] | iggy: | ANOTHER LINUX THAT ISN'T GENTOO |
| [01:32:00] | emes: | i'm not installing another distro just so I can try mythfrontend.. |
| [01:32:00] | emes: | unless they make the mythtv livecd for ppc |
| [01:33:00] | iggy: | well, I'd guess it's Gentoo's fault then |
| [01:33:00] | kormoc: | emes, my understanding is that it won't work on linux on ppc as of now, tho I could be really wrong |
| [01:34:00] | hubcap: | is mythtv a pain in the ass to set up? |
| [01:34:00] | iggy: | hubcap: not really |
| [01:34:00] | emes: | kormoc: its marked as testing on ppc, so someone got it to work |
| [01:34:00] | iggy: | if you follow the instructions completely, it shouldn't take more than a few hours to go from bare distro to watching tv |
| [01:35:00] | kormoc: | emes, or they are testing each release hoping it it will? :P |
| [01:35:00] | hubcap: | lol |
| [01:35:00] | iggy: | emes: that doesn't necessarily mean anything |
| [01:35:00] | hubcap: | iggy ahh so I shoudl be ready to spend a few hours on it ? |
| [01:35:00] | emes: | it means that someone thinks that it might work on ppc |
| [01:36:00] | iggy: | it means that some person on the ppc team listens to inexperienced testers too often |
| [01:37:00] | iggy: | hubcap: yes, if that's too much time for you, might I suggest a tivo |
| [01:40:00] | emes: | spending hours on something to get it working one of the best parts of linux :) |
| [01:40:00] | emes: | s/one/is one/ |
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| [01:41:00] | hubcap: | iggy lol naaah, I'm just curious |
| [01:41:00] | iggy: | hubcap: some people (who don't follow the instructions, and don't have a clue) spend weeks on it |
| [01:41:00] | hubcap: | emes yeah, can be aggravating at times though lol |
| [01:41:00] | iggy: | emes: I'd suggest asking dholm who he had test it |
| [01:41:00] | iggy: | he's on irc |
| [01:41:00] | hubcap: | iggy don't wanna spend weeks on it |
| [01:42:00] | hubcap: | guess I'll follow instructions |
| [01:42:00] | emes: | iggy: one step ahead of you :P |
| [01:43:00] | hubcap: | how long you been using mythtv ? |
| [01:45:00] | hadees: | GeckoFiend, you there? |
| [01:46:00] | GeckoFiend: | hadees somewhat |
| [01:50:00] | hadees: | GeckoFiend, http://www.kom.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de/acmmm99/ep/merialdo/ |
| [01:50:00] | hadees: | GeckoFiend, that is pretty much what i was talking to you about before, i really can't make it my self |
| [01:50:00] | hadees: | but it is a great idea |
| [01:51:00] | hadees: | that company might be intrested |
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| [02:01:00] | jasoncohen: | on my laptop i don't have a debian menu in KDE but i do have a debian menu in gnome. am i missing a package i need? |
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| [02:02:00] | jasoncohen: | lol, sorry |
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| [02:05:00] | garrick: | with a PVR-350, anyone know why I get audio and blank video trying to watch a recorded show while it is recording |
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| [02:13:00] | emilylove: | hello again everyon! |
| [02:13:00] | jonK: | hello! |
| [02:14:00] | emilylove: | I installed mythtv on a 6gb drive...I have a 250gb that just arrived...I was assuming I could just mount it and it would work fine...did I assume correctly? |
| [02:15:00] | jonK: | do you want to mingle any video data between the 6 and the 250, or |
| [02:15:00] | jonK: | or is the 6 only for "linux" |
| [02:15:00] | jonK: | and myth videos for everything else? |
| [02:15:00] | emilylove: | the 6 is basically just for linux |
| [02:15:00] | emilylove: | the videos and all that are gonna be on the 250 |
| [02:15:00] | jonK: | you should not have a problem |
| [02:15:00] | emilylove: | the 6 gig has now about half a gig free on it |
| [02:16:00] | jonK: | you need to create a partition, format it, and mount it |
| [02:16:00] | emilylove: | the swap space is set for 700megs I think, and only about a quarter of it seems to be in use... |
| [02:16:00] | jonK: | what directory are you going to use for mythtv data.... |
| [02:16:00] | emilylove: | I was planning on getting myth working a bit more first..my TV still isn't tuning right..*grumble* |
| [02:17:00] | emilylove: | johnk not sure..probably /mnt/media or something |
| [02:17:00] | jonK: | that works |
| [02:17:00] | jonK: | you might also consider making the dirve part of an lvm group |
| [02:18:00] | jonK: | It took me weeks to get everything running, and I still dont have it all (but I have limited time to work on it) |
| [02:18:00] | emilylove: | ive never done lvm but did some reading last night and yes that sounds defintly good... |
| [02:18:00] | jonK: | it's easy |
| [02:18:00] | emilylove: | I have another 250 gig drive coming too, so I'd get like what? 400 gigs total after lvming them? doesn't it do raid or something? |
| [02:19:00] | kormoc: | LVM is just like a dynamic JBOD raid array |
| [02:19:00] | kormoc: | but a bit cooler :) |
| [02:19:00] | jonK: | then you definitly want to do lvm |
| [02:19:00] | jonK: | with lvm you can create a virtual drive, mount it as /mnt/media |
| [02:19:00] | ** kormoc has 840 gigs of drives in the mail. ** | |
| [02:20:00] | jonK: | and when you get the 2nd drive can just grow the virtual size |
| [02:20:00] | ** kormoc is also heading home. ** | |
| [02:20:00] | emilylove: | <--- swoons for kormac |
| [02:20:00] | ** jonK has 660gb in the machine presently ** | |
| [02:20:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, ooh, that's ontop of my 240 gig array at home already! over a TB! Booya :P |
| [02:20:00] | emilylove: | thats cool..I'll have to play around with it... |
| [02:20:00] | ** kormoc waves and shall be back later ** | |
| [02:20:00] | emilylove: | <--- tries hard to avoid any jokes about size.... |
| [02:21:00] | ** kormoc laugh ** | |
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| [02:21:00] | jonK: | for lvm you have physical volumes that belong to volume groups |
| [02:21:00] | jonK: | and logical volmes created from them |
| [02:21:00] | jonK: | volumes |
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| [02:21:00] | emilylove: | jon: Im getting a green screen...do you, or does anyone else have an ati tv wonder? |
| [02:21:00] | ** jonK will never be done with work, nevertheless will go home soon ** | |
| [02:21:00] | jonK: | I dont, have hauppauge cards |
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| [02:22:00] | jonK: | and and an hd3000 on the way |
| [02:22:00] | emilylove: | I have a happauge card but the stupid connector is broken off |
| [02:22:00] | jonK: | 350? |
| [02:23:00] | emilylove: | I'm sure it isn't..its an OLD piece of crap...from AGES ago |
| [02:23:00] | emilylove: | like 7 years old or so I think |
| [02:23:00] | emilylove: | I barely remember my dad buying it..I was like 10 or so...but its sitting around.. |
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| [02:26:00] | emilylove: | what do you do if no matter how hard you try you just can't get your tuner card to pick up channels? Ive tried every combo, it will pick up SOME channels, but not all, and none very clearn |
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| [02:27:00] | jonK: | what card? |
| [02:27:00] | emilylove: | ati tv wonder |
| [02:27:00] | Chutt: | buy another card? |
| [02:27:00] | emilylove: | ha ha I'm poor. |
| [02:28:00] | jonK: | that may well be the problem |
| [02:28:00] | emilylove: | the card works in Windows, so I know its a good card (or a bad one depending on how that may be) |
| [02:28:00] | jonK: | good hardware != good driver |
| [02:28:00] | emilylove: | has no one gotten the tv wonder to work? |
| [02:28:00] | Chutt: | there isn't just one 'tv wonder' |
| [02:29:00] | Chutt: | there are lots of different variants, with different drivers and different tuners |
| [02:29:00] | emilylove: | oh.... |
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| [02:31:00] | emilylove: | once I get this running, how stable is it..its a real pain to get going... |
| [02:31:00] | emilylove: | Id hate to be fixing it all the time.. |
| [02:32:00] | jonK: | I think it's pretty good |
| [02:33:00] | emilylove: | cool |
| [02:33:00] | jonK: | not bulletproof, but not a delicate orchid |
| [02:33:00] | emilylove: | If I change something in mythsetup, does it take affect immediately in mythtvfront? |
| [02:34:00] | Chutt: | no |
| [02:34:00] | jonK: | no |
| [02:34:00] | Chutt: | mythtv-setup only affects the backend, and generally requires a restart |
| [02:34:00] | jonK: | you need to restart the backend |
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| [02:34:00] | emilylove: | *Slaps herself* so I've been doing all these changes and I havn't changed a friggin thing? |
| [02:35:00] | emilylove: | # mythbackend restart? |
| [02:35:00] | jonK: | other than your self esteem? |
| [02:35:00] | emilylove: | jon: ha ha :-) |
| [02:36:00] | emilylove: | how do I restart the backend without rebooting? |
| [02:36:00] | Chutt: | if you're using a normal tv card, get it working in xawtv first. |
| [02:36:00] | Chutt: | then worry about myth. |
| [02:37:00] | jonK: | emily, skill level with linux generally? |
| [02:37:00] | emilylove: | jon: I have a general skill level with it, Id still call myself a newb, but I managed to get this far...that accounts for something I hope... |
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| [02:38:00] | emilylove: | I tend to pick things up pretty quick I think *shrug* |
| [02:38:00] | jonK: | easy way to kill the backend is to find the process id for mythbackend and then kill it |
| [02:38:00] | jonK: | ps is the command to list processes currently running |
| [02:38:00] | emilylove: | oh thanks jon |
| [02:38:00] | jonK: | ps -ef |
| [02:38:00] | jonK: | ps -ef | grep myth |
| [02:39:00] | Agrajag-: | how about just killall mythbackend |
| [02:39:00] | emilylove: | I figured I could do that, but I thought maybe there was a restart option for it like apache or mysql have... |
| [02:39:00] | jonK: | that's one way, but trying to give some useful info too |
| [02:39:00] | Agrajag-: | or use pidof, that's what it's for.. |
| [02:39:00] | jonK: | emily, distro? |
| [02:39:00] | emilylove: | I apriciate all the help, really :-) the more information the better at this stage |
| [02:39:00] | emilylove: | fc3 |
| [02:40:00] | jonK: | hmmm... don't know where fc keeps init scripts |
| [02:40:00] | emilylove: | do I run mythbackend as root, myth user, or doesn't matter? |
| [02:40:00] | Agrajag-: | myth user |
| [02:41:00] | _JohnL: | Anyone here have a problem with a PVR150's image being way out of balance contrast wise? If I try and lower it in myth or with ivtvctl, it wont keep the setting after I exit livetv.... |
| [02:41:00] | emilylove: | thanks |
| [02:41:00] | _JohnL: | /etc/init.d/ |
| [02:41:00] | jonK: | same place then |
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| [02:42:00] | _JohnL: | the specific users (aka mythuser) init is in the home folder i think |
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| [02:43:00] | jonK: | emily google for setuid root |
| [02:43:00] | jonK: | you don't need to be root to run mythbackend |
| [02:43:00] | jonK: | but you can set it to run with root privileges |
| [02:43:00] | Agrajag-: | why would do that? |
| [02:43:00] | jonK: | realtime thread sceduling |
| [02:43:00] | Agrajag-: | ah. what's that required for? |
| [02:43:00] | _JohnL: | you'll want to make mythbackend a daemon |
| [02:43:00] | jonK: | may improve playback performance fro some people |
| [02:44:00] | jonK: | not sure if needed for front/back or both offhand — it's in the docs |
| [02:44:00] | _JohnL: | emily have you looked at http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php |
| [02:44:00] | Agrajag-: | i doubt it would be needed for the backend |
| [02:44:00] | jonK: | i wouldn't think so |
| [02:45:00] | _JohnL: | does anyone know what the deal is with my tuner not keeping my contrast/brightness/color and hue levels? |
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| [02:47:00] | emilylove: | johnL been using it like crazy |
| [02:47:00] | _JohnL: | good, it tells you everything you need and how to do it too |
| [02:47:00] | emilylove: | ok, where is xawtv? I can't find it anywhere using the find command... |
| [02:47:00] | emilylove: | did it not install with the packages? |
| [02:48:00] | _JohnL: | xawtv? you should have ivtv |
| [02:48:00] | _JohnL: | brb |
| [02:48:00] | emilylove: | ivtv..hmmm |
| [02:50:00] | _JohnL: | at the command prompt type ivtvctl |
| [02:51:00] | emilylove: | nope..nothing...and find -name ivtv* isn't finding anything... |
| [02:51:00] | _JohnL: | I am also having a problem with the image on my TV tearing during playback anyone have any ideas on thatone? |
| [02:51:00] | _JohnL: | "locate ivtv" ? |
| [02:52:00] | _JohnL: | did you use apt-get to install mythtv-suite? |
| [02:52:00] | jonK: | jonhn I don't think she has a pvrX5- card |
| [02:52:00] | emilylove: | john — yes... |
| [02:52:00] | emilylove: | I'll try the locate command |
| [02:52:00] | emilylove: | nope locate ivtv...nothing |
| [02:52:00] | _JohnL: | oh that would make sense |
| [02:53:00] | _JohnL: | hrm |
| [02:53:00] | jonK: | emily, you dont need ivtv uneless you have a pvr-x50 card from hauppauge |
| [02:53:00] | _JohnL: | is myth starting up and you just have no image in livetv? |
| [02:53:00] | _JohnL: | jonK, you have any ideas with my problems? |
| [02:53:00] | emilylove: | I get an image, but its mostly static..some channels come in staticy (the wrong ones) |
| [02:54:00] | emilylove: | Its like the tuner type isn't set right |
| [02:54:00] | Chutt: | get xawtv working right, first. |
| [02:54:00] | jonK: | i would think, but didn;t you say you were using a tv tuner card that was "years old" |
| [02:54:00] | ** jonK agrees with Chutt ** | |
| [02:54:00] | _JohnL: | thats probably it, have you tried googling the name of your card and mythtv? |
| [02:54:00] | ** _JohnL still needs help :( ** | |
| [02:55:00] | emilylove: | kill (pid) isn't ending mythbackend |
| [02:55:00] | emilylove: | jon, no I'm using a tv tuner card thats like 3 years old |
| [02:55:00] | emilylove: | chutt where is Xawtv? I can't find it on my system |
| [02:55:00] | Chutt: | install it |
| [02:55:00] | jonK: | then you may have run it ass root |
| [02:55:00] | jonK: | and need to be root |
| [02:56:00] | emilylove: | I am root |
| [02:56:00] | jonK: | do you have an /etc/init.d/myth***something |
| [02:56:00] | emilylove: | yes..mythbackend is in there |
| [02:57:00] | jonK: | run /etc/init.d/mythbackend stop |
| [02:57:00] | emilylove: | it worked! ok..whats so special about the init.d folder? |
| [02:58:00] | jonK: | holds startup scripts |
| [02:58:00] | jonK: | run it with "start" to turn it back on |
| [02:59:00] | jonK: | all the scripts in that folder should work pretty much the same way |
| [02:59:00] | jonK: | so /etc/init.d/mysql restart will restart your mysql server |
| [03:00:00] | jonK: | etc... |
| [03:00:00] | emilylove: | I see |
| [03:00:00] | emilylove: | so how did It get there? is that the chkconfig? |
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| [03:01:00] | FaithX: | Hey guys how does the parental lock on the video manager work... I cant figure it |
| [03:01:00] | jonK: | installed with the mythtv package |
| [03:05:00] | emilylove: | so If I do an mythbackend stop, mythsetup, mythbackend start, then it should take the settings? |
| [03:05:00] | Agrajag-: | yep |
| [03:06:00] | jonK: | yes |
| [03:06:00] | jonK: | in fact, you don't need to stop it before monkeying with the settings |
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| [03:13:00] | ledhed: | hello |
| [03:15:00] | ledhed: | I have modules that I'm trying to unload but claim to be in use. How can I find out what is using it? |
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| [03:15:00] | _JohnL: | antyone here use nvidia cards in their myth boxes? |
| [03:15:00] | ledhed: | yup |
| [03:15:00] | ledhed: | whats your prob? |
| [03:15:00] | _JohnL: | do yuo know how to get nvidia-settings to remember the settings after a restart? |
| [03:16:00] | jonK: | i thought lsmod told you what was using a given module |
| [03:16:00] | _JohnL: | everytime i restart my comp it reverts to defaults and it messes up tv-out (underscans, color, flicker, ttc |
| [03:16:00] | ledhed: | what distro? |
| [03:16:00] | _JohnL: | FC3 |
| [03:16:00] | ledhed: | ok, hold on. I have a howto for you. |
| [03:17:00] | _JohnL: | awesome thanks |
| [03:17:00] | ledhed: | how did you install? ATRPMS? |
| [03:17:00] | _JohnL: | yes |
| [03:18:00] | _JohnL: | apt-get |
| [03:18:00] | ledhed: | did you follow Jarods Howto? |
| [03:18:00] | _JohnL: | yup |
| [03:18:00] | _JohnL: | made the autostart script too |
| [03:18:00] | ledhed: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php#auto |
| [03:19:00] | ledhed: | oh, thats the howto I just sent you |
| [03:19:00] | ledhed: | it worked for me. |
| [03:19:00] | _JohnL: | im thinking its loading the defaults in the script or something |
| [03:20:00] | _JohnL: | does the nvidia-settings panel write that to a file somewhere? |
| [03:20:00] | ledhed: | if you run myth-load.sh does it restore your settings? |
| [03:20:00] | _JohnL: | nope |
| [03:20:00] | ledhed: | humm |
| [03:21:00] | JohnnyQuest: | whats going on? |
| [03:21:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i folloed jarods |
| [03:22:00] | _JohnL: | nvidia-settings is being a beeotch and not remembering my settings |
| [03:22:00] | ledhed: | he cant get his nvidia-settings to save |
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| [03:22:00] | _JohnL: | as a matter of fact, so is myth... when i set the contrast and leave livetv and come back, its at defaults, but if i hit g it pops back |
| [03:23:00] | ledhed: | when you created the auto start script were you root or mythtv? (user) |
| [03:24:00] | _JohnL: | ... not sure, but it is in /home/mythtv/.kde/autostart/myth-load.sh |
| [03:24:00] | _JohnL: | and its executable |
| [03:24:00] | _JohnL: | it runs fine at everystartup, myth comes up on boot |
| [03:25:00] | ledhed: | do your audio settings get restored? |
| [03:25:00] | _JohnL: | yeah |
| [03:25:00] | _JohnL: | the volume coming from the computer is always constant |
| [03:25:00] | ledhed: | humm. sounds like nvidia settings isnt writing the changes |
| [03:25:00] | _JohnL: | it is before i reboot, i can see the changes, but when i reboot, it reverts |
| [03:26:00] | ledhed: | maybe you have it in reverse. maybe the sattings are being reset to defaults by the autostart script. |
| [03:26:00] | ledhed: | settings |
| [03:27:00] | _JohnL: | thats what i just thought |
| [03:30:00] | ledhed: | _JohnL, http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t= . . . start=0& |
| [03:31:00] | ledhed: | I think the nvidia-settings is looking to the drong display... |
| [03:32:00] | _JohnL: | but its applying everything right now as I change it |
| [03:32:00] | _JohnL: | I think i may be done fooling with it for the time being anyways, i've been working on this thing all day |
| [03:33:00] | _JohnL: | I just have little things that are bothering me with it, otherwise its working like a charm |
| [03:33:00] | _JohnL: | i do have one question though while we are talking |
| [03:33:00] | ledhed: | I feel your pain. When ever I mess with my Myth boxes its always an all day (if not an all weekend) project... |
| [03:33:00] | _JohnL: | if I leave the computer idle for a few days, the lircd will die and wont work until I do a hard reboot, why is that? any ideas? |
| [03:34:00] | _JohnL: | but if I use it once a day or so, its fine and the lircd never dies |
| [03:34:00] | emilylove: | aaaaaargh! i still can't get this tuner working... |
| [03:35:00] | kormoc: | aww:/ |
| [03:35:00] | ledhed: | humm. I've never gone more than say 8 or 10 hor without using the remote. so I don't know. Is the PC going into sleep mode (APM)? |
| [03:35:00] | emilylove: | shouldn't of complained..mythbox just froze |
| [03:35:00] | emilylove: | it hasn't frozen yet, and Ive been using it for two hours straight |
| [03:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [03:35:00] | ledhed: | what tunner, emilylove ? |
| [03:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | that sucks |
| [03:35:00] | emilylove: | tv wonder |
| [03:35:00] | ledhed: | ATI? |
| [03:36:00] | emilylove: | yes |
| [03:36:00] | _JohnL: | ledhed, no, the screen is still there if I turn on the TV, the remote just doesnt work until I do a hard reboot |
| [03:36:00] | ledhed: | emilylove, thats your problem... |
| [03:36:00] | _JohnL: | ooh, tv wonder isnt nice with linux |
| [03:36:00] | emilylove: | oh? well, its all I have... |
| [03:36:00] | _JohnL: | lol |
| [03:36:00] | emilylove: | its not a tv all in wonder |
| [03:36:00] | emilylove: | its just a tv wonder |
| [03:36:00] | _JohnL: | pvr150s are pretty cheap |
| [03:36:00] | ledhed: | _JohnL, I know, but I noticed that my USB would not come back after the PC went to sleep. What kind of Lirc? |
| [03:36:00] | emilylove: | the docs say the tv all in wonders don't work but the tv wonders should |
| [03:37:00] | _JohnL: | ledhed, its the one integrated with the PVR150 |
| [03:37:00] | _JohnL: | emilylove, i persoanlly am anti ATI so I dont know what to say |
| [03:37:00] | _JohnL: | this is why, they have sh*tty support in linux |
| [03:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | other people have that problem too john |
| [03:37:00] | ledhed: | _JohnL, I never used them, I build the Homebrew Serial Lirc Device.. |
| [03:38:00] | _JohnL: | oh ok |
| [03:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | there was a command that oculd be run that woudl fix it |
| [03:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i dont know what it is |
| [03:38:00] | _JohnL: | well thanks for the help, i think i might put my keyboard, mouse and monitor back on my windows box for the first time in ...... weeks.... |
| [03:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and i havnt had to use it since my mythbox hasnt been running cuz, i dont have my graphics card for tvout yet |
| [03:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [03:38:00] | _JohnL: | i thought ivtvctl --reset-ir would, but it doesnt exist |
| [03:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i want a wireless keyboard and mouse for my mythbox |
| [03:39:00] | emilylove: | well its working...just not tuning right...I mean..the device is detecting and being acessed |
| [03:39:00] | ledhed: | _JohnL, when you loose the lirc/remote, check the modules with (lsmod) and see if the needed modules are still loaded. |
| [03:39:00] | _JohnL: | you may just need to adjust your chan offsets then, i dont know how though :/ |
| [03:39:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, you'll likly need to set the tuner type by hand |
| [03:40:00] | _JohnL: | ledhed, i do know that it dies and when I do a check of the service it says "service dead but pid still active" or something along those lines |
| [03:40:00] | emilylove: | kormoc how do you do that? |
| [03:40:00] | kormoc: | it's a option to the tuner module |
| [03:40:00] | _JohnL: | anyways, i am going to move this stuff |
| [03:41:00] | kormoc: | erm, well, bttv module |
| [03:41:00] | ledhed: | _JohnL, check your dmesg or the logs |
| [03:41:00] | emilylove: | is this the alias char-major yadda yadda stuff I keep finding through gogole searches? |
| [03:41:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, I do modprobe bttv card=70 tuner=2 and it works. |
| [03:41:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, it's related, aye |
| [03:41:00] | _JohnL: | ill ssh in here later and look around |
| [03:41:00] | _JohnL: | is it against chan rules to plug a website in here? |
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| [03:41:00] | kormoc: | any fedora gurus in here? |
| [03:41:00] | emilylove: | ok, I'll try the modprobe thing...how do I "unload" before modprobing again? |
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| [03:41:00] | _JohnL: | i use it, dont know how guru i am |
| [03:42:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, rmmod bttv |
| [03:42:00] | ledhed: | no, nut a Fedora n00b I am |
| [03:42:00] | emilylove: | thanks heh |
| [03:42:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, your card # amd tuner # will be different |
| [03:42:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i use fedora, but im a really big noob.. |
| [03:42:00] | _JohnL: | i know my way around fedora better than say.... debian :) lol |
| [03:42:00] | _JohnL: | dwebian is waaaay greek to me man |
| [03:43:00] | emilylove: | module is in use by bt878...rmmod bt878? |
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| [03:43:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, aye |
| [03:43:00] | emilylove: | when I do that modprobe bttv card=70.... will it reload the bt878 or will I have to modprobe the 878 again? |
| [03:44:00] | ledhed: | I have a module that I want to unload, but when I rmmod it says its in use. How can I find what is using it? lsmod shows 2 things using it but doesnt say what they are... |
| [03:44:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, your card won't be #70 tho |
| [03:44:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, it should load the bt878 automagically, in theory |
| [03:44:00] | emilylove: | oh mine would be the 64... |
| [03:45:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, there ya go, ya |
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| [03:45:00] | kormoc: | tuners are in the CARDLIST.tuner |
| [03:46:00] | emilylove: | *cries* the only channel I get is Joan rivers home shopping network...at least if it's not gonna work it should be such a torturous channel |
| [03:46:00] | emilylove: | Even mythtv isn't worth that abuse |
| [03:46:00] | ledhed: | LOL |
| [03:47:00] | kormoc: | hehe, you'll get it soon :) |
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| [03:47:00] | linagee: | is there anything besides crap on tv tonight? :-( |
| [03:47:00] | ** linagee hates reruns ** | |
| [03:47:00] | JohnnyQuest: | depends on how many channels you have |
| [03:47:00] | emilylove: | lol Johnny |
| [03:47:00] | JohnnyQuest: | if you have 60 or less, nothin good |
| [03:48:00] | ledhed: | keep at it, it took me 3 months to get my Myth's working right. Though I do have a complex setup. |
| [03:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | if you have 2309432084, maybe one good thing |
| [03:49:00] | emilylove: | cardlist.tuner? ist hat on my local box? I can't find it |
| [03:49:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, it is on my box, in the kernel sources |
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| [03:50:00] | emilylove: | oh I didn't find it when I did a search..ill do another one |
| [03:51:00] | hyper\: | I cant change the channel on my pvr 350 with myth, it changes but the video doesnt change |
| [03:51:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, /usr/src/linux-2.6.12-rc5/Documentation/video4linux/CARDLIST.tuner is mine |
| [03:52:00] | linagee: | JohnnyQuest: 3–99 |
| [03:52:00] | linagee: | JohnnyQuest: and there are some empty holes |
| [03:52:00] | emilylove: | nope not there |
| [03:52:00] | emilylove: | ill check that folder |
| [03:53:00] | emilylove: | nope..nothing eveil close to it |
| [03:53:00] | emilylove: | even lol |
| [03:54:00] | kormoc: | hrm, odd |
| [03:54:00] | linagee: | nothing evil? |
| [03:56:00] | emilylove: | find -name modules.conf...and it comes up with NOTHING? |
| [03:56:00] | emilylove: | what in the world? |
| [03:56:00] | emilylove: | is it modprobe.conf on FC3? |
| [03:57:00] | xris: | yes |
| [03:58:00] | Chutt: | xris, attach file at ticket creation time would be keen |
| [03:58:00] | emilylove: | I changed the card number...now ALL Channels are static..which is a good thing...I don't have to watch Joan Rivers anymore |
| [03:59:00] | ** Chutt bugs xris about stuff that's not under his control ** | |
| [03:59:00] | xris: | Chutt: could have sworn there was a way to do that. |
| [03:59:00] | Chutt: | =) |
| [03:59:00] | xris: | thought there was a link, but I guess not. |
| [03:59:00] | Chutt: | <shrug> |
| [03:59:00] | Chutt: | i don't think it's that big of a deal |
| [03:59:00] | xris: | bug cmlenz and mgood. :) |
| [04:00:00] | Chutt: | i should try attaching something |
| [04:01:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, try different tuner numbers till one works? |
| [04:01:00] | emilylove: | heh Ive been doing that |
| [04:01:00] | Chutt: | and yes, it doesn't |
| [04:01:00] | emilylove: | is there a way to make it permanant if I find one? |
| [04:02:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, the modules.conf file or whatever fc uses |
| [04:02:00] | ** kormoc peers at xris wondering if he knows. ** | |
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| [04:02:00] | emilylove: | i found cardlist.tuner through google, I tried before but I mispelled it heh |
| [04:02:00] | kormoc: | hehe, yay |
| [04:03:00] | jemarcks__: | Does anybody have NFS running on their mythtv box? |
| [04:03:00] | emilylove: | is there a way to check your tuner type? |
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| [04:03:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, you can look at the tuner sticker on the tuner itself, if it has one |
| [04:03:00] | xris: | ivtv drivers should autodetect just about any card out there. |
| [04:04:00] | kormoc: | xris, bttv card |
| [04:04:00] | xris: | fc should detect those, too |
| [04:04:00] | xris: | way better than with ivtv, even. |
| [04:04:00] | kormoc: | xris, it detects the wrong tuner type, or she only has one channel |
| [04:04:00] | xris: | but yeah, "options bttv tuner=###" |
| [04:04:00] | emilylove: | ok I'll check, I'm assuming I don't have to restart the backend each time when I do these modprobe things |
| [04:04:00] | Chutt: | geez |
| [04:04:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, you shouldn't, no, as long as it's not in use. |
| [04:04:00] | Chutt: | use xawtv to get your tuner working |
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| [04:05:00] | Chutt: | it's a hell of a lot quicker |
| [04:05:00] | kormoc: | Chutt, she doesn't have xawtv installed, I think the verdect was. |
| [04:05:00] | Chutt: | so install it |
| [04:05:00] | Chutt: | it'll take, what, maybe 10 seconds? |
| [04:05:00] | ** kormoc shrugs. ** | |
| [04:06:00] | Chutt: | xris, huh. apparently, adding an attachment doesn't count as modifying the ticket |
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| [04:06:00] | Chutt: | no mail sent out |
| [04:06:00] | Chutt: | doesn't show up in the timeline |
| [04:07:00] | xris: | weird.... |
| [04:07:00] | emilylove: | crap..nothing on the label but "made in singapore" and 'made in china"..the stupid thing doesn't even know where It came from |
| [04:07:00] | hyper\: | anyone know how i can manually change the channel on a pvr350 to see whats causing it to fail |
| [04:08:00] | emilylove: | got it! |
| [04:08:00] | joev: | can anyone help configure pchdtv 3000, 2.6.12 and myth settings? |
| [04:08:00] | emilylove: | tuner -2 |
| [04:08:00] | kormoc: | yay! |
| [04:08:00] | emilylove: | what about card=? |
| [04:08:00] | kormoc: | did you set it? |
| [04:08:00] | kormoc: | it may only need the tuner set if it's detecting the card right |
| [04:09:00] | emilylove: | ok..let me restart the machine |
| [04:09:00] | scottatron: | does anyone where I can find a log for mythmusic? is there one?? |
| [04:09:00] | scottatron: | specifically for the 'Scan for New Music' process |
| [04:09:00] | emilylove: | I had to turn it off to get the card out so I could see the label |
| [04:10:00] | emilylove: | ok, heres an interesting (well I think) question for the experts... |
| [04:10:00] | emilylove: | at home I have just normal broadcast tv |
| [04:10:00] | emilylove: | at my summer job I have an actual cable connection in my office |
| [04:10:00] | jsldub: | what would be considered decent system requirements for making a mythtv box with a regular bt878 card ? |
| [04:11:00] | emilylove: | how best to take advantage of that? |
| [04:11:00] | jsldub: | ram? cpu? |
| [04:11:00] | emilylove: | I can't run a backend at work and a frontend at home I'm assuming :-) |
| [04:11:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, tis true, unless you have a *FAT* network connection :) |
| [04:11:00] | JohnnyQuest: | like a t3? |
| [04:11:00] | emilylove: | ha ha well I have a great one at work, but my home is like 256k |
| [04:11:00] | emilylove: | ya we have like for t3's coming in here at work |
| [04:11:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i have a t3 in my dorm :) |
| [04:12:00] | emilylove: | is there an easy way like maybe bringing a hard drive back and forth or something? I dunno... |
| [04:12:00] | kormoc: | JohnnyQuest, t3 won't cut it, you'd need about a 50 mbit connection really |
| [04:12:00] | emilylove: | short of just bringing the box home once in awhile... |
| [04:12:00] | JohnnyQuest: | you could do an external hd |
| [04:12:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i like our t3, dls at 5–7 mb a second if the source is fast enough |
| [04:12:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, sure, just use nuvexport to export them to stand along file and transfer them over |
| [04:12:00] | emilylove: | I was thinking of just brining and IDE hard drive back and forth... |
| [04:13:00] | emilylove: | kormac I was thinking that made the most sense |
| [04:13:00] | emilylove: | so nuvexport is pretty easy to use? |
| [04:13:00] | kormoc: | ya |
| [04:13:00] | kormoc: | very |
| [04:13:00] | JohnnyQuest: | you could get an external case |
| [04:13:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its like 30 bux |
| [04:13:00] | emilylove: | I remember looking at this ages ago and people were saying "don't bother exporting your show data" |
| [04:13:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and put the ide into it |
| [04:13:00] | emilylove: | johnny ya I would heh, don't want to damage a 250gig drive |
| [04:14:00] | JohnnyQuest: | that would be less damage, it would stay in one case.. |
| [04:14:00] | JohnnyQuest: | unless you are bringing the whole computer back and forth.. |
| [04:14:00] | emilylove: | hmm..so it might NOT be a good idea to use LVM |
| [04:14:00] | emilylove: | ooor... |
| [04:15:00] | emilylove: | I have a 100 gig drive available..I could use that to transport shows |
| [04:15:00] | emilylove: | I could write cron jobs to transcode the shows and export them and then bring them home on a regular basis |
| [04:15:00] | JohnnyQuest: | or you could send them home if you set up an ftp at home.. |
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| [04:15:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and then stream them off that ftp |
| [04:16:00] | emilylove: | ya but that would take awhile wouldn't it? I mean over a 256k connection... |
| [04:16:00] | joev: | anyone know which capturecard settings to use for pchdtv with dvb drivers? dvb or pchdtv? |
| [04:16:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well, you can put them onto the ftp from work.. |
| [04:16:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and if its at your house.. |
| [04:16:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it will dl during the day |
| [04:16:00] | JohnnyQuest: | you get home, its there |
| [04:16:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and you stream it over your network |
| [04:16:00] | JohnnyQuest: | or if your ftp is your mythbox.. |
| [04:16:00] | JohnnyQuest: | just play it off of there.. |
| [04:17:00] | emilylove: | hmmm |
| [04:17:00] | emilylove: | not a bad Idea... |
| [04:17:00] | emilylove: | I'll have to get this one set up first... |
| [04:17:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [04:17:00] | emilylove: | I only ahve one tuner card... |
| [04:17:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well, those are my suggestions.. |
| [04:17:00] | JohnnyQuest: | that would work fine |
| [04:17:00] | emilylove: | course it wouldnt' matter for that I suppose |
| [04:17:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but, i dont know how to do that stuff.. |
| [04:18:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i could do it with multiple computers.. |
| [04:18:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but not with 2... |
| [04:18:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i dont know enough about mythtv to do it |
| [04:18:00] | emilylove: | well, let me get the darn thing working first heh... |
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| [04:18:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [04:18:00] | JohnnyQuest: | geta new card |
| [04:19:00] | JohnnyQuest: | return the one you hvae |
| [04:19:00] | JohnnyQuest: | get a pvr-150 |
| [04:19:00] | emilylove: | i can't return it..i bought it a couple years ago |
| [04:20:00] | JohnnyQuest: | oo |
| [04:20:00] | JohnnyQuest: | go buy a new card |
| [04:20:00] | JohnnyQuest: | :P |
| [04:20:00] | JohnnyQuest: | money grows on trees... |
| [04:21:00] | emilylove: | ive been writing my own pvr software in windows and then just realized I don't have the time to ever make it as good as mythtv... |
| [04:21:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [04:21:00] | JohnnyQuest: | why dont you use beyondtv or whatever that is? |
| [04:21:00] | emilylove: | 50 bucks... |
| [04:21:00] | emilylove: | I may as well buy a new card |
| [04:21:00] | JohnnyQuest: | eh... |
| [04:22:00] | emilylove: | and it doesn't have a dvd ripper :-) |
| [04:22:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it can be 50 bux... |
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| [04:25:00] | ghjsdf: | so we log in as MythTV; gnome plays a sound; but when we run mythtv, it compalins about problems with pcm (sound)'; ... now, if we log in as a regular user instead (at the commahnd line and start stuff up with startx), when we log in, gnome does not play anything, ubut then we can play wave files fine 9where as with mythtv we can't play even wave files ... any ideas what might be wrong? thanks in advance |
| [04:26:00] | jsldub: | you may have esd or artsd running, taking up your sound device, or you just dont have permisions to write to sound device |
| [04:27:00] | scottatron: | does anyone know if when mythmusic scans for new music it will have problems if there is unsupported files in the music directory? |
| [04:27:00] | scottatron: | for example jpegs, tar files etc |
| [04:27:00] | emilylove: | oh please no! give me back joan rivers...just PLEASE NO MORE DR PHIL! |
| [04:28:00] | garrick: | ghjsdf: yah, probably gnome starting up esd and holding the sound device, try running mythtv under esddsp |
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| [04:31:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, hehe, change the channel? |
| [04:32:00] | garrick: | with a PVR-350, anyone know why I get audio and blank video trying to watch a recorded show while it is recording |
| [04:32:00] | emilylove: | its the only channel that works :-( I am thinking of just gouging my eyes out |
| [04:32:00] | joev: | can anyone help with pchdtv configuration |
| [04:33:00] | rtsai: | depends |
| [04:33:00] | emilylove: | anyone know where I can get a list of cards under "card=" |
| [04:33:00] | joev: | lets start with, what capture card settings, dvb or pchdtv for a 2.6.12 kernel |
| [04:34:00] | rtsai: | dvb |
| [04:34:00] | rtsai: | hd-3000? |
| [04:34:00] | rtsai: | and you only care about high-def, and not standard TV? |
| [04:34:00] | joev: | i get an error saying to compile drivers even though the modules are loaded |
| [04:34:00] | joev: | yes 3000 |
| [04:34:00] | joev: | yes |
| [04:35:00] | jsldub: | emilylove: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/video4linux |
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| [04:36:00] | emilylove: | ok ill check thanks |
| [04:36:00] | joev: | under card setup when I choose dvb |
| [04:36:00] | joev: | card type reads: recompile with DVB Support |
| [04:36:00] | rtsai: | joev: how do you know the module are loaded? |
| [04:37:00] | emilylove: | jsl — that folder isn't there |
| [04:37:00] | rtsai: | joev: you should have done a "modprobe cx88-dvb", which should have cascaded into loading about 4 other modules |
| [04:38:00] | jsldub: | emilylove: well it's in the kernel documentation. do you have any linux* folders in /usr/src/ ? |
| [04:38:00] | emilylove: | yes...redhat |
| [04:38:00] | emilylove: | thats it |
| [04:38:00] | emilylove: | and under that no documentation folder |
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| [04:39:00] | joev: | well when a run ls -l /dev/dvb/adapter0/* /dev/radio/ /dev/video0 I get the proper returns according to the folks on the pchdtv forum |
| [04:39:00] | jsldub: | emilylove: http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=17651& |
| [04:39:00] | emilylove: | thanks |
| [04:39:00] | jsldub: | emilylove: what card do you have? |
| [04:39:00] | joev: | lsmod shows the cx88 modules |
| [04:39:00] | emilylove: | aww not there |
| [04:39:00] | emilylove: | tv wonder |
| [04:39:00] | emilylove: | the tv wonder ve is card#64 |
| [04:40:00] | emilylove: | Ive been trying that with no real success... |
| [04:40:00] | jsldub: | emilylove: my card wasn't there either. i had to use process of elimination. i still buggy too. volume doesnt work right, and remote doesnt work |
| [04:42:00] | rtsai: | you should also have a or51132 module (firmware) |
| [04:42:00] | rtsai: | (joev) |
| [04:42:00] | jsldub: | emilylove: that is an old list. let me find you a better link. newer driver version has 120 cards |
| [04:42:00] | emilylove: | oh thanks! :-) |
| [04:42:00] | joev: | sorry just saw that |
| [04:42:00] | jsldub: | emilylove: i can pm you the list if that is ok |
| [04:42:00] | emilylove: | sure |
| [04:43:00] | joev: | ok that added more modules |
| [04:43:00] | joev: | lemme try mythtv-setup again |
| [04:44:00] | joev: | still same results for card type dvb |
| [04:44:00] | emilylove: | dammit...locked up again... |
| [04:45:00] | linagee: | myth.tv? heh |
| [04:45:00] | rtsai: | joev: can you "dmesg | grep or51132"? You should see "firmware upload complete" |
| [04:46:00] | joev: | returns nothing |
| [04:46:00] | rtsai: | joev: wait, did you compile mythtv yourself, or is this some binary package? |
| [04:46:00] | joev: | compiled from tarball |
| [04:46:00] | rtsai: | so when you did ./configure, you used --enable-dvb, etc.? |
| [04:46:00] | joev: | .18.1 |
| [04:47:00] | joev: | just followed the howto |
| [04:47:00] | joev: | ./configure make make install |
| [04:47:00] | ** xris grumbles.. darn on-topic discussion. heh. ** | |
| [04:47:00] | rtsai: | heh |
| [04:47:00] | rtsai: | i don't know off hand what the howto says, but it soudns like DVB support isn't compiled into your mythtv |
| [04:48:00] | joev: | hmmmmm |
| [04:48:00] | xris: | for the rpm's, you need to --enable-dvd *and* pass in the path to the dvd library |
| [04:48:00] | rtsai: | you will need at the least --enable-dvb --dvb-path=... |
| [04:48:00] | rtsai: | DVB, not DVD |
| [04:48:00] | rtsai: | (xris) |
| [04:48:00] | rtsai: | :) |
| [04:48:00] | xris: | http://linuxtv.org/download/dvb/ |
| [04:48:00] | xris: | rtsai: sorry. eating, hard to type with dirty fingers. |
| [04:48:00] | rtsai: | heh |
| [04:49:00] | rtsai: | trac sends too much e-mail |
| [04:49:00] | joev: | what's the path to dvb? |
| [04:49:00] | rtsai: | depends on your machine |
| [04:49:00] | rtsai: | probably /usr/src/kernel-headers/... |
| [04:49:00] | rtsai: | just do ./configure --help; it'll tell you what it wants |
| [04:49:00] | xris: | joev: follow that URL I gave, you. grab linuxtv-dvb-1.1.1cvs20050228 (or newer if there is one) |
| [04:49:00] | xris: | untar, there's your path. |
| [04:49:00] | joev: | that switch is for ./configure? |
| [04:49:00] | rtsai: | dvb comes with kernel-2.6.12 |
| [04:49:00] | rtsai: | (at least, I've never seen this webpage) |
| [04:49:00] | xris: | rtsai: this is newer |
| [04:50:00] | joev: | that's what I have 2.6.12-rc5 |
| [04:50:00] | xris: | or different. |
| [04:50:00] | ** rtsai perks up ** | |
| [04:50:00] | emilylove: | ok I have the right card# and tuner# |
| [04:50:00] | emilylove: | stupid thing STILL won't tune |
| [04:50:00] | rtsai: | this website looks older. Everything is dated 2004 |
| [04:50:00] | xris: | I just know that it's required for dvb building in the fedora packages. |
| [04:50:00] | emilylove: | its getting channels ocasionally as I surf, but none in good quality, and only one every 8 or so |
| [04:50:00] | rtsai: | ah |
| [04:50:00] | ** rtsai doesn't touch fedora ** | |
| [04:51:00] | joev: | using SuSE 9.2 |
| [04:51:00] | xris: | rtsai: just saying that it mythtv pulls something out of there that's better/newer than what's in the kernel |
| [04:51:00] | rtsai: | if your kernel is from kernel.org, you don't need anything else; DVB is included |
| [04:51:00] | joev: | ok-that's solved |
| [04:51:00] | joev: | do I need to recompile with that dvb switch? |
| [04:51:00] | jsldub: | emilylove: what are the messages in dmesg? |
| [04:51:00] | rtsai: | yes |
| [04:52:00] | rtsai: | (two dvb switches, --enable-dvb and --dvb-path=/usr/src/linux-xxx/include |
| [04:52:00] | rtsai: | and you may as well --enable-dvb-eit, but i don't know what that does |
| [04:52:00] | joev: | just found that |
| [04:53:00] | rtsai: | xris: http://linuxtv.org/download/dvb/patches/ so I think all this stuff is in stock kernel now (anything newer than 2.6.12rc4) |
| [04:53:00] | rtsai: | anyway, whatever. Lots of choices to confuse people with |
| [04:53:00] | xris: | ah. axel must include it in case the OS uses an older kernel |
| [04:53:00] | xris: | or people don't have the kernel source handy. |
| [04:53:00] | rtsai: | yeh |
| [04:53:00] | emilylove: | come on..NO ONE in the room has a TV Wonder? |
| [04:54:00] | rtsai: | not me, emilylove |
| [04:54:00] | joev: | do I need to add the dvb directory ...include/dvb? |
| [04:54:00] | rtsai: | what does ./configure --help say? |
| [04:55:00] | ** rtsai waits ... ** | |
| [04:55:00] | xris: | --enable-dvb --enable-dvb-eit --dvb-path=/path/to/dvb/include |
| [04:55:00] | rtsai: | joev: short answer: no, but you need .../include |
| [04:55:00] | ** rtsai was trying to teach joev to fish ** | |
| [04:55:00] | xris: | emilylove: :( |
| [04:55:00] | joev: | nope. |
| [04:56:00] | emilylove: | wait an minute... |
| [04:56:00] | rtsai: | joev: nope? |
| [04:56:00] | ** xris goes to check on his pet yeasts. ** | |
| [04:56:00] | emilylove: | its loading an btv878 module...the card is a bt848 |
| [04:56:00] | emilylove: | anyone know antyhing about that? |
| [04:56:00] | emilylove: | that doesn't seem right... |
| [04:56:00] | smoke_: | hey guys, when i start my frotnend it says Couldn't fidn theme Titvillus from my previous emerge in gentoo, how do i fix this? i tried deleting .mythtv in my home dir but nothing happened |
| [04:56:00] | joev: | I see acouple of errors |
| [04:56:00] | jsldub: | thats ok emilylove , they use the same driver |
| [04:57:00] | rtsai: | joev: only a few? :) |
| [04:57:00] | joev: | one says dvb support no and the path |
| [04:57:00] | emilylove: | oh ok |
| [04:57:00] | rtsai: | do you have kernel sources installed? (does /usr/src/kernel-headers-xxx/include exist?) |
| [04:58:00] | joev: | the other cat: /etc//etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf: No such file or directory |
| [04:58:00] | rtsai: | joev: i don't know about that one, sorry. My Ubuntu system doesn't have that path |
| [04:59:00] | joev: | don't have a /usr/src/hernel-headers..... |
| [04:59:00] | rtsai: | joev: /usr/src/linux/? |
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| [04:59:00] | rtsai: | joev: where did you get your kernel from? |
| [05:00:00] | joev: | kernel.org |
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| [05:00:00] | rtsai: | so you used make-kpkg? |
| [05:00:00] | joev: | no |
| [05:01:00] | rtsai: | how did you build/install? |
| [05:01:00] | emilylove: | theres a ton of people using tv wonder with myth...none of them seem to have problems...wonder why I am...bad luck? |
| [05:01:00] | rtsai: | what distro linux? |
| [05:01:00] | joev: | make mrproper, make xconfig, make clean bzImage.... |
| [05:01:00] | rtsai: | joev: anyway, this is at least one problem (no header files installed for --dvb-path) |
| [05:01:00] | joev: | SuSE 9.2 |
| [05:01:00] | rtsai: | is SuSE rpm or debian-based? |
| [05:02:00] | joev: | rpm |
| [05:02:00] | joev: | hate rpms |
| [05:02:00] | rtsai: | basically, you need to package up the kernel header files and install them |
| [05:02:00] | joev: | package up? |
| [05:03:00] | rtsai: | I use make-kpkg, but that is a debian-ish tool; I don't know the RPM way |
| [05:03:00] | emilylove: | maybe my settings are wrong..maybe I'm just an idiot |
| [05:03:00] | emilylove: | I have just a normal cable connection right now...no cable box, but it just plugs into a tv |
| [05:03:00] | emilylove: | do I use b-cast? |
| [05:03:00] | rtsai: | joev: do a "make help", maybe something in there can help you |
| [05:03:00] | xris: | emilylove: us-catv |
| [05:04:00] | joev: | hmmmmmmm |
| [05:04:00] | xris: | b-cast is for OTA broadcast |
| [05:04:00] | joev: | looks like more book time |
| [05:04:00] | emilylove: | us-cable or us-cable-hrc? |
| [05:04:00] | emilylove: | it set to us-cable now |
| [05:04:00] | rtsai: | joev: maybe "make rpm" will build header-file RPMs? |
| [05:04:00] | joev: | thanks for the help |
| [05:04:00] | rtsai: | joev: no prob; good luck |
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| [05:04:00] | emilylove: | and hwo is cable different from broadcast? I can plug the cable line into a normal tv antenna hookup and it works fine |
| [05:05:00] | emilylove: | tv format is NTSC |
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| [05:05:00] | jsldub: | emilylove: broadcast channels stop at like 57 or something like that. cable keeps going past 100 |
| [05:06:00] | emilylove: | oh I see |
| [05:06:00] | JonK: | digital cable does.. |
| [05:06:00] | xris: | emilylove: your tv also has a setting for broadcast vs cable. |
| [05:06:00] | emilylove: | ya we don't have digital cable, just analog |
| [05:06:00] | JonK: | analg cable does not |
| [05:06:00] | smoke_: | hi guys i just installed from the source |
| [05:06:00] | JonK: | tv's are not digital cable ready |
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| [05:06:00] | smoke_: | and for some reason when i run mythtv, it says couldn't find theme Titivillus .... whats going on? |
| [05:06:00] | JonK: | analog cable ready, accordign NTSC standard |
| [05:06:00] | smoke_: | i had it emerged into portage |
| [05:06:00] | emilylove: | there is a stupid colon that appears over the channel number when it loads up..is that normal? |
| [05:07:00] | smoke_: | but i unmereged it and compiled it myself with the source... anyone have any idea why it keeps saying it cant find titivillus? i even ereased my .myhttv dir ... |
| [05:07:00] | emilylove: | what is "master backend override"? |
| [05:07:00] | mchou: | smoke_: most likely you didnt install the theme. |
| [05:08:00] | JonK: | mchou: care to help me compile driver for hd3000? |
| [05:08:00] | smoke_: | ehhh |
| [05:08:00] | smoke_: | nm, im going to redo it. |
| [05:09:00] | smoke_: | when u compile from soruce it doenst automatically give u the default theme? |
| [05:09:00] | emilylove: | there is a "1:" over the stupid channel numbers..its been there for ages if that means aything |
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| [05:11:00] | mchou: | JonK: compile driver? |
| [05:12:00] | mchou: | I thought you d/l dvb and compile, that's it, no? |
| [05:13:00] | rtsai: | yeah, a friend of mine has all these food-making appliances: bread, espresso, ice cream, etc. |
| [05:13:00] | rtsai: | oops |
| [05:13:00] | mchou: | rtsai: camp ove their house :) |
| [05:13:00] | mchou: | over* |
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| [05:15:00] | rtsai: | jonk/mchou: what i meant to type *here* was, DVB comes with stock kernel 2.6.12rc5-ish and later, so no need to separately download stuff |
| [05:16:00] | emilylove: | what is VBI? |
| [05:16:00] | Agrajag-: | it comes with kernels a fair bit before that iirc |
| [05:17:00] | Agrajag-: | i know my 2.6.10 did |
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| [05:18:00] | emilylove: | just doing another check in case someone else came in ---------- anyone have a tv wonder? |
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| [05:21:00] | emilylove: | the svideo input seems to work on the thing..just not hte friggin tuner |
| [05:21:00] | garrick: | what is a "channel change buffer warning"? (it's a frontend config option) |
| [05:21:00] | JonK: | are you asking, and then answering your question? |
| [05:22:00] | JonK: | what is.... (it's a....) |
| [05:22:00] | garrick: | I don't know what the option does |
| [05:22:00] | garrick: | I was just noting where I'm looking at it |
| [05:25:00] | garrick: | and I'm still trying to figure out why I can't record and watch a recording at the same time |
| [05:28:00] | garrick: | I'm running X on the pvr350's video out, is it possible that mythtv "takes over" that output during playback, or is playback in a fullscreen X window? |
| [05:29:00] | emilylove: | ok can someone tell me what PLL is? I put that in my modprobe and although it still isn't working the channels that DO come in are coming in WAAAY better |
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| [05:30:00] | garrick: | emilylove: was that the name of a module, or an option to a module? |
| [05:31:00] | smoke_: | where does the frontend get the theme info from? |
| [05:31:00] | emilylove: | it was an option int he module pll=1 is what I put |
| [05:31:00] | emilylove: | I have no idea what it means though |
| [05:31:00] | smoke_: | my mythtv setup keeps trying to load the titillus theme but i dont have it :/ |
| [05:31:00] | rtsai: | smoke_: i think theme name is in database, but theme files themselves are in /usr/share/mythtv (or /usr/local/share/mythtv) |
| [05:31:00] | garrick: | emilylove: 'modinfo <modname>' generally tells you what the options are |
| [05:31:00] | smoke_: | k |
| [05:31:00] | jsldub: | has anyone here gotten a generic bt878 card to work with it's build in remote feature? |
| [05:31:00] | jsldub: | wilh lirc that is |
| [05:32:00] | emilylove: | oh thanks garrick |
| [05:32:00] | xris: | jsldub: I had a pctvpro remote working for awhile. it's serial, though. |
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| [05:33:00] | jsldub: | my card has a special port with a dongle, and a remote |
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| [05:33:00] | _JohnL: | wow.... windows again.... at home |
| [05:34:00] | _JohnL: | anyone got any idea why vnc server wont run on fc3? |
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| [05:34:00] | garrick: | _JohnL: define "wont run" |
| [05:34:00] | _JohnL: | i do /sbin/service vncserver start |
| [05:35:00] | _JohnL: | and then when i do /sbin/service vncserver status, it says its stopped |
| [05:35:00] | garrick: | did you define any servers? |
| [05:35:00] | _JohnL: | its supposed to be the server, im trying to set up the vncserver on my mythbox so that I can login from my windows box to work on it |
| [05:36:00] | _JohnL: | im trying to download cygwin as an alternative (with ssh) |
| [05:36:00] | garrick: | _JohnL: vncserver isn't a system daemon like, say, crond |
| [05:36:00] | jsldub: | why dont you just run x11 remotely |
| [05:36:00] | _JohnL: | with ssh? |
| [05:36:00] | _JohnL: | i need cygwin to do that, right? |
| [05:36:00] | jsldub: | get a windows xserver, and tunnel x11 over ssh |
| [05:37:00] | garrick: | _JohnL: vncserver is run as regular users, you can define some in /etc/sysconfig/vncservers so that they are started at boot |
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| [05:37:00] | garrick: | _JohnL: but the first time, run vncserver as yourself to set the password |
| [05:37:00] | _JohnL: | is there a good windows xserver besides cygwin? |
| [05:38:00] | jsldub: | damn. mythtv only allows me to have keyboard input to control mplayer about 1 in 5 times. i cannot figure it out |
| [05:38:00] | jsldub: | with mythtv-video that is |
| [05:38:00] | JonK: | johnL starnet |
| [05:39:00] | _JohnL: | startnet? google |
| [05:39:00] | _JohnL: | all i see is some dial up isp |
| [05:39:00] | _JohnL: | and a domain for sale |
| [05:41:00] | _JohnL: | god cygwin is a fat ass |
| [05:41:00] | _JohnL: | way to big |
| [05:42:00] | jsldub: | _JohnL: download the free xwin32 demo. run it, add your linux host to the xhosts option. then export your ssh display to your windoze host. that all there is to it |
| [05:42:00] | emilylove: | what is xawtv? do I have to configure any of that? |
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| [05:43:00] | garrick: | emilylove: it's another TV watching application |
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| [05:44:00] | emilylove: | ok, so I don't have to configure that then...thought maybe it was a plugin of some sort |
| [05:44:00] | _JohnL: | is there a way to view the current xwindow session thats running from a remote computer? |
| [05:44:00] | joev: | rtsai: I made a little headway |
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| [05:45:00] | joev: | I used the --enable-dvb switch and was able to get a positive result from ./configure |
| [05:45:00] | _JohnL: | crap man, after I run vncserver and set my password, then what do i need to do? |
| [05:45:00] | garrick: | _JohnL: run 'x0rfbserver' on the machine running X |
| [05:46:00] | garrick: | _JohnL: vncserver should be running, just have you client connect (or use a web browser) |
| [05:46:00] | joev: | now I get an undefined LircEvent Lock cause the make to fail |
| [05:46:00] | _JohnL: | when i try and connect with the client, it gets a connection refused error |
| [05:47:00] | garrick: | _JohnL: are you specifying the correct display or port number? |
| [05:47:00] | _JohnL: | all i see in the VNCviewer dialog is a place to put the IP of the server |
| [05:47:00] | _JohnL: | do i need to export display=192.168.1.100 ? |
| [05:48:00] | garrick: | _JohnL: when starting vncserver, did you specify a display number, or did you tell you something like ":1" |
| [05:48:00] | _JohnL: | i just did vncserver |
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| [05:48:00] | garrick: | _JohnL: so it's probably display :1, put a ":5901" or ":1" after the IP in the dialog |
| [05:48:00] | slide: | Does mytv use X? |
| [05:49:00] | slide: | er mythtv even |
| [05:49:00] | _JohnL: | ok |
| [05:49:00] | garrick: | slide: yes |
| [05:49:00] | slide: | k |
| [05:49:00] | _JohnL: | that did it, but its not KDE, its some nothing window manager |
| [05:51:00] | garrick: | _JohnL: the default is usually twm (which will perform better in vnc) |
| [05:51:00] | _JohnL: | is it possible to use kde? |
| [05:52:00] | _JohnL: | its running over my ethernet network, it wont be going over the internet at all |
| [05:52:00] | garrick: | _JohnL: sure, edit the startup script in .vnc |
| [05:52:00] | _JohnL: | okie |
| [05:52:00] | garrick: | _JohnL: of course, you probably don't want 2 instances of kde running as the same user at the same time |
| [05:54:00] | _JohnL: | will that kill the server totally? |
| [05:54:00] | emilylove: | alright...I have a crazy idea... |
| [05:54:00] | emilylove: | be back in a few |
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| [05:55:00] | garrick: | _JohnL: I'm not a kde user, but IIRC it has concurrency issues |
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| [06:00:00] | binaryboy: | lol...irc log bot |
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| [06:01:00] | joev: | ahhh forgot I had to do qmake |
| [06:01:00] | joev: | looks like I am getting a good build now |
| [06:02:00] | binaryboy: | so...i was reading bout this mythtv |
| [06:02:00] | binaryboy: | do you need the hdtv card to work it |
| [06:02:00] | binaryboy: | or can you use a normal tv card |
| [06:03:00] | garrick: | binaryboy: hardware docs: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html#ss3.1 |
| [06:03:00] | _JohnL: | cool vnc works now |
| [06:03:00] | _JohnL: | thanks |
| [06:03:00] | smoke_: | anyone here experienced with theming mythtv? |
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| [06:22:00] | binaryboy: | so basicly your ripping the satilite tv off |
| [06:22:00] | binaryboy: | to state that u can get any channel around the world free...is a bit weird |
| [06:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | wtf are you talking about ? |
| [06:31:00] | laptopconte: | huh |
| [06:32:00] | laptopconte: | anyone aware of a bug where all the scheduled recordings are in one file – the first recording (all the others are marked as completed, but contain no file) |
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| [06:47:00] | psm321: | hi |
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| [09:44:00] | cortezdapimp: | hello |
| [09:44:00] | cortezdapimp: | anyone awake? |
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| [09:45:00] | Christopher: | I'm awake |
| [09:47:00] | cortezdapimp: | I'm having trouble getting my pvr150 remote to work. Fresh batteries, connected, installed lirc 0.7.1 and used a config file from the intarweb. irw doesn't show any output :( heres my dmesg http://pastebin.ca/15742 |
| [09:48:00] | cortezdapimp: | any advice? |
| [09:52:00] | Christopher: | cortezdapimp hmm... I can't even tune in video yet... so I doubt I'll be of help. I have the pvr-500mce. without a remote. |
| [09:53:00] | cortezdapimp: | lol |
| [09:53:00] | cortezdapimp: | ok |
| [09:53:00] | smoke_: | hey |
| [09:53:00] | smoke_: | any of u guys know anyhting about adding options to the mythtv main menu? |
| [09:53:00] | cortezdapimp: | what version ivtv are you using? and are you connecting to the coax or composite or what |
| [09:53:00] | cortezdapimp: | i use composite with no problems |
| [09:53:00] | Christopher: | cortezdapimp: I'm using 3.6q and I'm connecting with coax to the cable-tv tuner. |
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| [09:54:00] | Christopher: | cortezdapimp: my /etc/modules.d/ivtv isn't setup correctly for the option cx25840 line |
| [09:54:00] | Christopher: | why do you have bttv loaded? |
| [09:54:00] | Christopher: | doesn't the pvr-150 use the same cx25840 chp that I'm supposed to be using? |
| [09:55:00] | cortezdapimp: | yes |
| [09:55:00] | cortezdapimp: | i didn't try to load bttv, it just did when i opened lirc |
| [09:55:00] | cortezdapimp: | thats why it says cx2388x afterward i suppose? |
| [09:57:00] | smoke_: | can someone help me out adding a menu to the mainmenu? |
| [09:57:00] | Christopher: | smoke_ I dunno what to do |
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| [09:58:00] | Christopher: | cortezdapimp: check your /etc/modules.d/lirc file to see if it's loading the bttv...cause if it's not then it's happening in /etc/modules.d/alias or something like that. |
| [09:58:00] | cortezdapimp: | k |
| [09:59:00] | Christopher: | cortezdapimp: is this in your /etc/modules.d/ivtv out of curiousity? options cx25840 no_black_magic=1 i2c_enable=1,1 |
| [10:00:00] | cortezdapimp: | nope... i guess in the forum someone solved it by jiggling his reciever cord, i'm going to try that |
| [10:01:00] | Christopher: | lol |
| [10:01:00] | Christopher: | cortezdapimp: or shutdown your computer, remove the power cable, push the on button... wait. then plug the computer in again and turn it on. |
| [10:01:00] | Christopher: | That's a cold boot. |
| [10:03:00] | cortezdapimp: | heh |
| [10:03:00] | cortezdapimp: | yea i tried that too. |
| [10:04:00] | cortezdapimp: | arrgh. |
| [10:05:00] | Christopher: | you could tell the bios to refresh the pnp settings. |
| [10:05:00] | Christopher: | I'm gonna reboot |
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| [13:11:00] | LinuxUser: | hi all |
| [13:12:00] | _paul: | all hi |
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| [14:05:00] | Christopher: | What do I do about this...? I can't watch livetv! Couldn't read file: rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/mnt/store//ringbuf1.nuv |
| [14:08:00] | Peit|work: | double check your permissions on that folder/file |
| [14:08:00] | Christopher: | Peit|work: what should the permissions of /mnt/store be??? I have it to root:users |
| [14:09:00] | Peit|work: | make sure mythtv can read and write to it |
| [14:10:00] | Christopher: | Peit:work: my /etc/init.d/mythbackend stays it's getting ran by root.... what's the front end getting run by? |
| [14:11:00] | Peit|work: | i dunno |
| [14:11:00] | Peit|work: | :) |
| [14:11:00] | Peit|work: | you have a double / in there, but that shouldn't be causing the issue, are you running both f/e and b/e on the same box? |
| [14:12:00] | Christopher: | I fixed the double / |
| [14:12:00] | Christopher: | Peit:work: yes I am running f/e and b/e on the same box. |
| [14:14:00] | Christopher: | Peit:work: Now it's saying. Couldn't read file: rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/mnt/store/ringbuf1.nuv |
| [14:14:00] | Peit|work: | a quick test to rule out permissions would be to chmod the directory 777 and re-start both ends, |
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| [14:15:00] | Christopher: | Peit|work: I'm thinking it might be because I haven't defined a decoder. |
| [14:15:00] | Christopher: | Peit|work: It is saying that it can't write. |
| [14:15:00] | Christopher: | Peit|work: It could be an ivtv error |
| [14:16:00] | Peit|work: | you shouldn't need to define a decoder, it will do it in software |
| [14:16:00] | Peit|work: | or perhaps you mean an encoder |
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| [14:17:00] | Christopher: | Peit|work: I have the pvr-500mce. It acts like a dev/video0 and a dev/video1 |
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| [15:28:00] | purplefrog: | The time stretch feature gets pretty stupid when what you're watching catches up with live TV. |
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| [15:29:00] | Baylink: | So who watches *anything* live anymore? :-) |
| [15:29:00] | purplefrog: | I watch CNNHN in the morning before I go to work. |
| [15:29:00] | purplefrog: | I start out with anywhere from 2–10 minutes of buffer. |
| [15:30:00] | Baylink: | Ah... |
| [15:30:00] | Baylink: | Timestretch doesn't automatically fade away, then? |
| [15:30:00] | purplefrog: | I actually had to write a perl script to kludge the database so I could tell it "record half-hour chunks from 7am to 9:30, but not if anything better is on". |
| [15:30:00] | purplefrog: | timestretch does NOT deactivate. It gets choppy. |
| [15:31:00] | Baylink: | RFE time, I guess; I should think it would drop to realtime at about minus a minute. |
| [15:32:00] | rtsai: | purplefrog: couldn't you just set up a low-priority schedule for those 30-min. chunks, with a limit of 1 episode each? |
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| [15:33:00] | purplefrog: | rtsai, actually I limit it to 2 episodes of "A Morning Bob Show". The problem is that CNNHN is in blocks of 3 hours, so I have to chop it up, and give the chunks in the time period I want their own name ("A Morning Bob Show"). |
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| [15:35:00] | jonK: | hello |
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| [15:36:00] | jonK: | chances of getting assistance with hd3000 installation? |
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| [16:18:00] | bjohnson: | you should check out the videos at http://www.drummerworld.com/ |
| [16:18:00] | bjohnson: | I especially like the Buddy Rich ones |
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| [16:21:00] | Beirdo: | ahhh, morning with a half-decaf venti latte |
| [16:21:00] | Beirdo: | and the really cute friendly girl is working there again this summer |
| [16:21:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:22:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: romantic interest? or just nice to have around? |
| [16:23:00] | Beirdo: | not romantic |
| [16:23:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [16:23:00] | Beirdo: | just pleasant on the eyes, and all |
| [16:24:00] | Beirdo: | romantic interests lie a lot further from home |
| [16:25:00] | Beirdo: | and I think *she* is still playing puzzle pirates right now. |
| [16:25:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:27:00] | Beirdo: | I had to go to work :( |
| [16:27:00] | Beirdo: | and she has the day off.. so not fair |
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| [16:29:00] | rjune: | it does happen sometimes |
| [16:29:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [16:29:00] | rjune: | though its awful nice to have eye-candy around |
| [16:29:00] | Beirdo: | heh, ain't that the truth |
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| [16:35:00] | Beirdo: | Oh NICE |
| [16:35:00] | Beirdo: | the MUD I play is giving connection refused |
| [16:35:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:35:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [16:36:00] | Beirdo: | I just wanted to check up and see when they were gonna wipe the players |
| [16:36:00] | rjune: | I thought you weren't gonna play because they were bitches |
| [16:36:00] | Beirdo: | looks like it's now |
| [16:36:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:36:00] | Beirdo: | I'm not gonna play |
| [16:36:00] | Beirdo: | not until like October or so |
| [16:36:00] | Beirdo: | I have a summer to have |
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| [16:49:00] | Randall64: | Anyone using debian-amd64 and mythtv? |
| [16:50:00] | rtsai: | yep |
| [16:51:00] | Randall64: | sweet, it didn't work very well when I tried it some months back |
| [16:51:00] | Randall64: | Maybe I can finally dump fc3. |
| [16:51:00] | rtsai: | i've been using it for a few months |
| [16:51:00] | Chutt: | you'd need that ringbuffer patch, unless they've fixed that |
| [16:51:00] | Randall64: | I would always get weird freezes in the gui. |
| [16:51:00] | Randall64: | rtsai: Are you using debs or build it yourself? |
| [16:51:00] | rtsai: | i roll my own |
| [16:51:00] | Randall64: | hmm, that's less attractive |
| [16:52:00] | rtsai: | yes, the amd64 threading bug is not fixed |
| [16:52:00] | Chutt: | i wonder if that's something the debian people can roll in easily |
| [16:52:00] | Randall64: | What are the effects of it being broken? |
| [16:52:00] | Chutt: | it's apparently fixed on other distros |
| [16:52:00] | rtsai: | I dunno; never experienced it. And it doesn't hurt anything to leave the patch in :P |
| [16:53:00] | Randall64: | It didn't make it into 0.18.1? |
| [16:53:00] | rtsai: | AFAIK, debian people need to fix it, myth shouldn't have to work around it |
| [16:54:00] | Randall64: | So it's a glibc bug or another library? |
| [16:54:00] | rtsai: | something in pthreads |
| [16:54:00] | Randall64: | IC |
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| [16:55:00] | Chutt: | reader/writer locks don't work |
| [16:55:00] | Randall64: | damn, gossamer search is broken |
| [16:55:00] | Chutt: | but apparently not many people actually use them |
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| [16:56:00] | Randall64: | Well, the fact the fedora can't upgrade itself w/o a 4GB DVD on-hand is proof enough that it's time to abandon my little experiment |
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| [16:57:00] | Chutt: | i wonder if ubuntu has that pthreads bug |
| [16:57:00] | rtsai: | Hmm. I run Ubuntu, but have no real urge to experiment. |
| [16:57:00] | Randall64: | I liked the ubuntu desktop experience well enough when I tried it, but not being Quite Debian made it somewhat of a pain. |
| [16:58:00] | rtsai: | ubuntu is exactly debian what are you talking about |
| [16:58:00] | Chutt: | heh |
| [16:58:00] | Randall64: | rtsai: It doesn't have all the same software, some of which I actually need |
| [16:58:00] | Chutt: | i'll have to decide what to install next week |
| [16:58:00] | Randall64: | Then I have to build it and all its dependencies myself. |
| [16:58:00] | Randall64: | Might as well be running fedora or gentoo or something. |
| [16:58:00] | rtsai: | I'm pretty sure it has everything debian-amd64 has, you just have to point it at universe, etc. |
| [16:59:00] | rtsai: | I've not had to build anything (except for mythtv) |
| [16:59:00] | Randall64: | rtsai: I try to stick to stable/ testing. |
| [16:59:00] | rtsai: | that's what I'm talking about |
| [16:59:00] | Randall64: | multiverse is the unstable stuff? |
| [16:59:00] | rtsai: | no |
| [16:59:00] | rtsai: | you need to go read |
| [16:59:00] | rtsai: | multiverse, universe, etc. is the ubuntu version of contrib, non-free, etc. |
| [16:59:00] | Randall64: | I just don't remember. |
| [17:00:00] | Randall64: | And it wasn't enough to compel me to fork from debian. |
| [17:00:00] | rtsai: | stable/testing/unstable is ubuntu releases hoary/warty/breezy/etc |
| [17:00:00] | rtsai: | debian is fine |
| [17:00:00] | rtsai: | I just though ubuntu would be more up-to-date for 64-bit stuff |
| [17:00:00] | rtsai: | amd64 was not a full-fledged port for debian when I was deciding. |
| [17:00:00] | Randall64: | yes, although I do like the OS X-like sudo in the gui vs. root |
| [17:00:00] | rtsai: | I was unwilling to wait |
| [17:00:00] | rtsai: | that has nothing to do with ubuntu/debian |
| [17:01:00] | Randall64: | ubuntu asked for my user password, debian asks for root |
| [17:01:00] | Randall64: | That may just be a default, but I liked it. |
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| [17:03:00] | stoffel: | Randall64: debian's sudo also asks for the user password (on my systems at least) |
| [17:03:00] | Randall64: | stoffel: I don't mean /usr/bin/sudo, but the gui stuff. |
| [17:03:00] | jamesp: | Hey all. Anyone using DVB-S in the UK? trying to work out why I'm getting the audio description sound track! |
| [17:03:00] | Randall64: | synaptic, etc. |
| [17:04:00] | stoffel: | Randall64: oh, ok |
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| [17:10:00] | ** Beirdo yawns mightily ** | |
| [17:10:00] | ** Randall64 sucks out Beirdo's soul ** | |
| [17:10:00] | Randall64: | Anyone want to buy a used soul? |
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| [17:18:00] | GeckoFiend: | *sigh* This guy mkaes my themes look like such utter crap http://www.lxmsuite.com/members/index.php?opt . . . amp;Itemid=2 |
| [17:18:00] | Chutt: | most of those images don't load |
| [17:19:00] | Beirdo: | does look nice though |
| [17:20:00] | rtsai: | Meh, titivillus works for me |
| [17:21:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, me too, but that Midnight Snack mockup does look nice |
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| [17:22:00] | stoffel: | i prefer to watch tv/recordings than some nice-looking menues ;) |
| [17:23:00] | GeckoFiend: | Chutt hrm I wonder if they need propagated out |
| [17:23:00] | Chutt: | they work now |
| [17:23:00] | Chutt: | only 2 of em loaded before |
| [17:24:00] | GeckoFiend: | http://72.3.251.206/members/index.php?option= . . . amp;Itemid=2 should work. |
| [17:24:00] | GeckoFiend: | I have one IP hardcoded here for lxmsuit.com |
| [17:24:00] | Beirdo: | I love the color scheme |
| [17:25:00] | GeckoFiend: | yeah I was worried about it for a little whle when I started my redesign of minimalist. Till I saw his mockups coming in. They're both clean and blue based but they're different enough to stand apart I think |
| [17:26:00] | Beirdo: | blue++ |
| [17:26:00] | GeckoFiend: | dhofstra around |
| [17:26:00] | GeckoFiend: | ? |
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| [17:29:00] | Beirdo: | ccache rules. I wish I had bothered with it ages ago :) |
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| [17:31:00] | Beirdo: | compiling from CVS... then I'll switch later to SVN. |
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| [17:48:00] | rtsai: | xris: here? |
| [17:49:00] | laga: | Beirdo: it does, indeed. saves me a lot of time on the old athlon 700 |
| [17:54:00] | rjune: | GeckoFiend: nice, you have that availble for download? |
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| [17:59:00] | stoffel: | i like this elkin theme for mythweb |
| [18:00:00] | Chutt: | yeah, it's clean looking |
| [18:00:00] | GeckoFiend: | rjune those are all mockups. jams is working on integration. |
| [18:01:00] | rjune: | GeckoFiend: ah well |
| [18:03:00] | GeckoFiend: | I'm going to start checking in the minimalist update soon.. http://www.jdonavan.net/min3.jpg |
| [18:04:00] | Beirdo: | ever planning a non-wide version? |
| [18:04:00] | rtsai: | how do you change the mythweb theme? I can't get it to work (there is also a new "Attic" mythweb theme) |
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| [18:07:00] | stoffel: | rtsai: in the mythweb settings page, after you installed the new theme (for elkin you also need to copy config/theme_Default.php to config/theme_elkin.php) |
| [18:08:00] | reel: | when you pause watching a recording, it shows the time in the top right but the time doesn't update. it just shows the time you paused it and doesn't advance. is this intended? |
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| [18:08:00] | tristan77x: | hi |
| [18:09:00] | stoffel: | reel: it's updated for paused live-tv |
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| [18:09:00] | reel: | but not when watching recorded tv? |
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| [18:09:00] | stoffel: | didn't try that, reel |
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| [18:11:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [18:11:00] | jonK: | well I've gone and borked it up good |
| [18:12:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:12:00] | Beirdo: | good thing you have a weekend for unborking it |
| [18:12:00] | laga: | huh? it's weekend? indeed. |
| [18:12:00] | jonK: | updated to latest ivtv driver — hangs system hard |
| [18:12:00] | jonK: | that usually means I just get to come to work in shorts |
| [18:13:00] | Beirdo: | that's every day for me |
| [18:13:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:13:00] | jonK: | before doing so, i compiled, but did not install the hd3000 drivers |
| [18:13:00] | Beirdo: | in the summer, shorts, t-shirt, sandals... |
| [18:13:00] | Beirdo: | that's my normal attire |
| [18:13:00] | jonK: | anything I need to do to get them to peacefully coexist |
| [18:13:00] | jonK: | and i notice the hd3000 included it's own tuner module |
| [18:14:00] | Beirdo: | no clue |
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| [18:16:00] | tristan77x: | i've got a kinda weird problem with mythbackend dying randomly...any idea bout that? |
| [18:17:00] | tristan77x: | there's nothin in the logs etc |
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| [18:19:00] | GeckoFiend: | tristan77x have you run it under gdb? |
| [18:19:00] | tristan77x: | i cannot reproduce that :( |
| [18:21:00] | tristan77x: | it can happen now or tomorrow or few days later...on different action, like for example starting recording or deleting a file...happens also when accessing it throoug mythweb |
| [18:22:00] | Beirdo: | ahhh |
| [18:22:00] | Beirdo: | you running a release version? |
| [18:22:00] | tristan77x: | yep |
| [18:22:00] | tristan77x: | .18.1 here |
| [18:22:00] | Beirdo: | OK, I think that was fixed if it's what I think it is |
| [18:23:00] | Beirdo: | but it's not in the releases yet |
| [18:23:00] | tristan77x: | the database is on another machine than backend |
| [18:23:00] | tristan77x: | i'd then try cvs, if it doesnt break too much :) |
| [18:23:00] | Beirdo: | I had that for a while, and it got fixed a few weeks ago, the issue was something in the socket handling code that mythweb triggered |
| [18:25:00] | tristan77x: | ah, and another thingy: backend won't start if i run it from init.d, strange though, it's looking for the socket file however the database is only accessible over IP...when it's ran manually then everything is fine and it connects...the mysql.txt file has correct data |
| [18:25:00] | Beirdo: | odd |
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| [18:28:00] | tristan77x: | where do i find the cvs? |
| [18:29:00] | stoffel: | in the svn repository ;) |
| [18:29:00] | stoffel: | see http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ |
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| [18:29:00] | tristan77x: | is the fix for black screen after exiting EPG already merged there? |
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| [18:30:00] | stoffel: | the old cvs repo is still working, but is missing the latest patches committed since yesterday |
| [18:30:00] | stoffel: | i dunno, check the -commits mailing list archive |
| [18:31:00] | tristan77x: | the project just recently moved to svn? |
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| [18:31:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [18:31:00] | Beirdo: | and I'll be recompiling from the SVN repo soon. :) |
| [18:31:00] | jonK: | nice... |
| [18:31:00] | tristan77x: | cool :) |
| [18:32:00] | jonK: | I've worked with svn more than I have cvs |
| [18:32:00] | jamesp: | hey all, new to mythtv and it's working well so far except fast forward seems a bit unstable. is this normal? i can define "unstable" if needed :) |
| [18:32:00] | kormoc: | you should |
| [18:33:00] | tristan77x: | for the ff/rew prob here i've switched to "video as timebase" and it helped a lot, the seeking is somehow faster, too |
| [18:34:00] | jamesp: | ok, well, if I ff, lets say 30sec manually, I press up to cancel ff and it might just go back to where I started from |
| [18:35:00] | jamesp: | or if I leave it on 5x for a few seconds the screen goes totally blue with no OSD and I have to reboot :( |
| [18:35:00] | tristan77x: | jamesp: same here :) |
| [18:36:00] | jamesp: | ah, ok, lol. Did your fix help? |
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| [18:36:00] | tristan77x: | for me, yes, it has work, though it seems to cancel few frames before but it's a lot better |
| [18:37:00] | jamesp: | where do you set that option? |
| [18:37:00] | heinz: | hi. I've a problem with mythtv on an amd64 system with nvidia binary module and latest testing mythtv. If I do some Task that uses a bit more CPU (e.g. emerge sync) while watching mythtv my videos jitter |
| [18:37:00] | tristan77x: | let me look up, i've switched 3 things there... |
| [18:37:00] | heinz: | using xine, mplayer or whatever else doesn't have these problems. My cpu is fast enough and has enough idle time and my disks are sata2 and also should be fast enough |
| [18:37:00] | jamesp: | tristan77x: thanks |
| [18:37:00] | heinz: | anyone else having such problems or could give me advice to solve this problem? |
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| [18:40:00] | tristan77x: | jamesp: i've switched "libmpeg2 library for decoding" and "use video as timebase" to ON and "reposition after ff/rew" to OFF, that are all setup->tv settings->playback |
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| [18:41:00] | tristan77x: | the first one, i'm not sure it's actually used |
| [18:41:00] | jamesp: | ah, thanks. May give that a go. I might leave the libmpeg2 alone since I'm using CLE266 for mpeg... |
| [18:41:00] | tristan77x: | lucky you :) |
| [18:42:00] | jamesp: | Well to be honest I'd prefer some hardware with more output options that composite or S-video |
| [18:43:00] | smoke_: | anyone here familiar with running external programs with mythtv? and adding a menu option on tvmenu.xml? |
| [18:43:00] | tristan77x: | jamesp: you're using the propertiary driver? |
| [18:44:00] | stoffel: | smoke_: huh? see the EXEC part |
| [18:44:00] | jamesp: | I *think* I'm using the open source unichrome whatsit. Minimyth lets me not have to think about that sort of thing... :) |
| [18:44:00] | stoffel: | smoke_: EXECTV |
| [18:44:00] | smoke_: | stoffel, no, but ... it doesnt add anything to the menu... do i have to do something with the theme? |
| [18:44:00] | stoffel: | smoke_: it's commented out by default, use it as an example how to do it |
| [18:45:00] | smoke_: | k |
| [18:48:00] | smoke_: | yeah i used it as an example, what theme will work with it default? |
| [18:48:00] | tristan77x: | mh, i can't checkout from svn, getting REPORT req. failed and error 400 bad request... |
| [18:48:00] | stoffel: | i dunno, some themes might provide their own tvmenu.xml |
| [18:49:00] | smoke_: | stoffel, k |
| [18:49:00] | smoke_: | im using g.a.n.t. but ill look into it more |
| [18:50:00] | smoke_: | so thats all i need to really modifiy is the tvmenu.xml and if i do it correctly it should just show up? |
| [18:50:00] | stoffel: | yeah |
| [18:51:00] | jamesp: | Hmm. another random issue. I'm watching a recording, press space to bookmark a scene then exit. When playing that recording again it just starts from the beginning again. Should that feature work? |
| [18:51:00] | tristan77x: | jamesp: IIRC you need to switch an option so it remembers your bookmark... |
| [18:52:00] | jamesp: | err, ok. I will have to twiddle some buttons |
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| [18:57:00] | tristan77x: | ahh, my proxy is blocking that...stupid me |
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| [19:03:00] | _joey: | cold someone recommend the best/most suitable card for tv out? |
| [19:03:00] | _joey: | perferably nVIDIA |
| [19:03:00] | _joey: | $100 budget |
| [19:05:00] | GeckoFiend: | you should be able to get a fanless geforce4 MX for $40 or so |
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| [19:05:00] | _joey: | will the quality of out be acceptable ? |
| [19:06:00] | _joey: | I've got spare ati radeon 9250 agp x8, 128Mb |
| [19:06:00] | _joey: | and ATI RAGE IIC agp 8Mb |
| [19:06:00] | _joey: | :)) |
| [19:06:00] | _joey: | both with tv out |
| [19:07:00] | tristan77x: | the IIC doesnt have good quality of output IMO |
| [19:08:00] | _joey: | what type of cable do I need to connect my ati radeon ? |
| [19:09:00] | _joey: | I think it has s-video and another female connector |
| [19:09:00] | _joey: | On linux, would I need to use special config in X to get tv out working ? |
| [19:10:00] | rjune: | _joey: svideo and maybe rca? |
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| [19:10:00] | _joey: | let me grab the matches and have a look:) |
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| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | don't forget to open the gas tank |
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| [19:11:00] | _joey: | and put the hose in your sphincter |
| [19:12:00] | _joey: | it has 3 rows of pin holes on one side |
| [19:12:00] | Tommck: | I just sent my cousin off to Iraq yesterday with the promise that I would send him some of his favorite shows on DVD. Now, I was wondering if there's a simple way to cram commercial-free TV shows onto DVDs with functional menus without too much trouble :) |
| [19:12:00] | Tommck: | anyone got any tips/tricks? |
| [19:12:00] | _joey: | and 2x2 on the side, what connector it is |
| [19:13:00] | _joey: | could someone recommend a cable for it please |
| [19:13:00] | GeckoFiend: | Tommck I use avidemux to eliminate commercials on mpeg2 files. You can use something like qdvdauthor to master the disks. |
| [19:13:00] | GeckoFiend: | _joey for an ATI card? |
| [19:14:00] | Tommck: | GeckoFiend – you don't (somehow) use MythTV's commercial flagging? |
| [19:14:00] | Tommck: | GeckoFiend – you do it manually? |
| [19:14:00] | _joey: | GeckoFiend yes |
| [19:14:00] | _joey: | for ati radeon 9250 |
| [19:18:00] | Tommck: | GeckoFiend – I went to avidemux.sourceforge.net and the "about" section goes to "news" and the screenshots won't load... what, exactly, does this thing do? what OSes does it support? |
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| [19:21:00] | jonK: | anyone have an hd3000 card installed? |
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| [19:21:00] | Tommck: | jonK – 2 of them |
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| [19:22:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: I cut off my hair! |
| [19:22:00] | CyberKnet: | not all of it, but 90% of it. |
| [19:22:00] | kormoc: | ooh? |
| [19:22:00] | CyberKnet: | donated it to the cancer kids |
| [19:22:00] | CyberKnet: | ;)) |
| [19:22:00] | kormoc: | nice :) |
| [19:22:00] | CyberKnet: | four 12" pony tails. enough to make a hair piece for some kid |
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| [19:23:00] | kormoc: | coolness |
| [19:23:00] | CyberKnet: | It's not looking good for getting the 500 in this weekend, but I'm gonna try. |
| [19:23:00] | CyberKnet: | my wife went and made *more* plans |
| [19:23:00] | CyberKnet: | gah |
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| [19:24:00] | Randall64: | I'm finally moving into a place with enough space for a projector. |
| [19:24:00] | kormoc: | CyberKnet, tell her you need to get the 500 working so you get some money :P |
| [19:24:00] | CyberKnet: | "Err... hon, did you not remember I was fscking with the myth box friday!?!?" "oooooh... right.... well, I already made the plans." |
| [19:24:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: heh |
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| [19:24:00] | CyberKnet: | plus I have an xbox power supply to fix. egads. |
| [19:24:00] | Randall64: | I could have sworn mythtv was packaged for debian. |
| [19:25:00] | CyberKnet: | and if you knew me well, you'd know that me plus a soldering iron usually results in house fires. |
| [19:25:00] | CyberKnet: | or severe burns. |
| [19:25:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
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| [19:25:00] | CyberKnet: | and good lord, why can I not get ssh public key authentication working on my myth box? |
| [19:25:00] | CyberKnet: | am I that damn stupid? |
| [19:26:00] | tristan77x: | Randall64: yes it's been, however i didnt look there recently |
| [19:27:00] | jonK: | tomck-- you don't happen to also have a pvrx50 card with the hd3000's do you? |
| [19:27:00] | Tommck: | jonK – yes... a 500 |
| [19:27:00] | Randall64: | tristan: trying to find an apt line for it |
| [19:28:00] | tristan77x: | Randall64: let me see if i still have it somewhere...recently i prefer to build on my own :) |
| [19:28:00] | jasoncohen: | CyberKnet, are your permissions correct? |
| [19:29:00] | tristan77x: | Randall64: http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/ |
| [19:29:00] | jonK: | 'anything special i need to do to config? Have a 350, 2x500 and the hd3000 |
| [19:30:00] | smoke_: | whats the best remote for mythtv? |
| [19:30:00] | CyberKnet: | jasoncohen: yep |
| [19:30:00] | smoke_: | any recommendations? |
| [19:30:00] | jonK: | i notice the drivers for the hd3000 included a tuner.o |
| [19:30:00] | jasoncohen: | CyberKnet, i believe ~/.ssh must be 700 and id_rsa should be 600 |
| [19:30:00] | jonK: | module |
| [19:30:00] | CyberKnet: | jasoncohen: cygwin client, linux server. ~/.ssh is 700 and id_rsa is 600 |
| [19:30:00] | smoke_: | right now im using firefly and its a bitch to setup, and ive been reading the howtos, and it seems kinda to do alot of work for a crappy windows remote when i can just buy a new one |
| [19:30:00] | Randall64: | tristan: yesh, evidently the answer is always google (not mailing list archives) |
| [19:30:00] | Tommck: | jonK – I'm running kinda old stuff... pcHDTV 1.6 drivers... and ivtv 0.3.2z with an old CVS build (pre-0.18, I think) of MythTV |
| [19:30:00] | jonK: | smoke, I have a working firefly are you having issues |
| [19:31:00] | jasoncohen: | CyberKnet, and you copied the client's public key to the server's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file? |
| [19:31:00] | CyberKnet: | jasoncohen: yep |
| [19:31:00] | CyberKnet: | jasoncohen: it's the only key, so I just renamed the id_rsa.pub to authorized_keys |
| [19:31:00] | jonK: | i just upgraded to the latest ivtv drivers and it hosed the machine, will have to boot from disk and downgrade when i get home |
| [19:32:00] | jasoncohen: | CyberKnet, are you specifying the username? |
| [19:32:00] | Tommck: | jonK – I don't have everything working the way it ought to (not working on boot...). I actually run the pcHDTV drivers "make install" and a script I wrote to get the ivtv stuf working. |
| [19:32:00] | jasoncohen: | CyberKnet, if the usernames are different you must do ssh ip -l user |
| [19:33:00] | jonK: | i notice that the hd3000 drivers include some duplicates (mainly tuner.c) which one should i be using? |
| [19:33:00] | CyberKnet: | I think it's having difficulty with the -l ... I'll look into it |
| [19:33:00] | jasoncohen: | CyberKnet, run with -vv |
| [19:33:00] | CyberKnet: | hmmm |
| [19:33:00] | CyberKnet: | actually |
| [19:33:00] | Tommck: | jonK – can we switch to private messages, I'm too busy to filter messages from this channel/room |
| [19:33:00] | CyberKnet: | it's taking issue with my private key on cygwin |
| [19:33:00] | CyberKnet: | how does it expect me to 600 the private key in windows? =) |
| [19:34:00] | jasoncohen: | does it really check the permissions on the windows client? |
| [19:34:00] | CyberKnet: | appears to |
| [19:35:00] | jasoncohen: | when i set up winscp/putty to use an openssh key i created- converted to the putty format, it ignored permissions i think |
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| [19:35:00] | CyberKnet: | yeah, I'm about to ditch cygwin for this purpose and try again with putty =) |
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| [19:36:00] | jasoncohen: | just create an openssh key, and convert it with puttygen |
| [19:36:00] | CyberKnet: | yep |
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| [19:36:00] | Randall64: | You can chmod in cygwin. |
| [19:36:00] | CyberKnet: | Randall64: it isn't having any effect though. |
| [19:36:00] | Randall64: | Who knows what permissions 600 actually map to in windoze, but it does do something ... |
| [19:36:00] | Randall64: | CyberKnet: ntfs or fat ? |
| [19:38:00] | CyberKnet: | NTFS |
| [19:38:00] | CyberKnet: | aha. |
| [19:38:00] | CyberKnet: | that was all the problem was. |
| [19:39:00] | CyberKnet: | cygwin trying to enforce 600 |
| [19:39:00] | CyberKnet: | not to worry. |
| [19:39:00] | CyberKnet: | putty is nicer for my purposes anyway. |
| [19:39:00] | CyberKnet: | now to just drop the private key onto my usb keychain and I'm golden. |
| [19:39:00] | Randall64: | yeah, decent terminal emulation is nice |
| [19:40:00] | CyberKnet: | the only thing putty doesn't do on my box is handle extended character sets well |
| [19:40:00] | CyberKnet: | but I think that's a configuration problem with my box, not putty |
| [19:40:00] | CyberKnet: | (where box = machine where sshd is running) |
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| [19:41:00] | CyberKnet: | thanks for the input jason =) |
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| [19:44:00] | jasoncohen: | np CyberKnet |
| [19:44:00] | jasoncohen: | CyberKnet, btw, vfat ignores all permission settings |
| [19:44:00] | jasoncohen: | CyberKnet, i wrote a small script to set id_rsa to 600 before ssh'ing |
| [19:45:00] | CyberKnet: | jasoncohen: I think that it is because the key was residing on a network share. |
| [19:45:00] | jasoncohen: | otherwise i got file permission errors |
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| [19:45:00] | CyberKnet: | even though the network share is NTFS |
| [19:45:00] | CyberKnet: | jasoncohen: but ... putty is better for my uses than cygwin + openssh |
| [19:45:00] | CyberKnet: | jasoncohen: and putty doesn't bother checking file permissions |
| [19:46:00] | jasoncohen: | ah, i was referring to using an openssh key off a usb key on linux |
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| [19:47:00] | CyberKnet: | jasoncohen: aha |
| [19:47:00] | jasoncohen: | i have it also forward ports for VNC & mythweb |
| [19:47:00] | jasoncohen: | when i'm not using my VPN- (brandeis wireless network doesn't allow port 1194 through yet) |
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| [19:47:00] | CyberKnet: | I was hoping to use a tunnel to encrypt my RDP connection to the windows machine at home, but it would appear it does some checking to ensure you dont try to connect to a local ip address :| |
| [19:48:00] | CyberKnet: | where "it" is the RDP client. |
| [19:48:00] | jasoncohen: | you could use openvpn- then you wouldn't have a local IP address |
| [19:48:00] | jasoncohen: | you can run the client/server as a service on windows & linux |
| [19:49:00] | CyberKnet: | I'm pretty sure that RDP is already encrypted... I just don't trust it too much =) |
| [19:49:00] | darkfire: | does anyone know where i might find someone to ask a question about MS Access? I have to do something for work and googling is killing me, thousands of "learn everything at a low level" sites :-p |
| [19:49:00] | Randall64: | Cyber: a worthy precaution |
| [19:49:00] | darkfire: | a bit off topic, i'm sure, but maybe you guys know. |
| [19:49:00] | CyberKnet: | darkfire: what's the question? |
| [19:50:00] | stoffel: | darkfire: nothing is off-topic in this channel ;) |
| [19:50:00] | CyberKnet: | not that I would ever admit to using MS Access |
| [19:50:00] | CyberKnet: | ever. |
| [19:50:00] | dant: | I use RDP over SSH all the time |
| [19:50:00] | Randall64: | darkfire: monster.com for a new job |
| [19:50:00] | darkfire: | lol |
| [19:50:00] | darkfire: | well, i need to make a form for data entry for a survey, and the survey is very long, so it takes up a couple tables. |
| [19:50:00] | CyberKnet: | dant: using port forwarding? |
| [19:50:00] | dant: | CyberKnet, yep |
| [19:50:00] | jasoncohen: | CyberKnet, doesn't RDP use some pitifully weak encryption? |
| [19:50:00] | rtsai: | stoffel: the mythweb settings page isn't saving -any- of my selections (theme, weather icons, etc.) |
| [19:51:00] | CyberKnet: | dant: and mstsc.exe doesn't barf and say "You're already connected to the console of this machine" when you try to connect to your own ip address? |
| [19:51:00] | CyberKnet: | darkfire: okay |
| [19:51:00] | jasoncohen: | CyberKnet, it uses a 56 or 128 bit key- hope you're using 128 bit :) |
| [19:51:00] | darkfire: | i need to know how to link the subforms so that they will be synchronized and the data people can add all this stuff by using tab controls to view the subforms, etc, and it will all have the same key |
| [19:51:00] | CyberKnet: | jasoncohen: it wouldn't surprise me. |
| [19:51:00] | dant: | CyberKnet, not sure if I've tried it on windows, but give me a mo |
| [19:51:00] | rtsai: | stoffel: i think i have something misconfigured somewhere. cookies or something. blah. |
| [19:51:00] | CyberKnet: | jasoncohen: not sure what size key I just generated. |
| [19:51:00] | stoffel: | rtsai: afaik cookies are used to store user settings |
| [19:51:00] | darkfire: | CyberKnet: i have the tabs and subforms set up, i just cant figure out how to make the main form create the new records in all of the subforms, etc. |
| [19:52:00] | CyberKnet: | darkfire: without using any vbscript, I take it? |
| [19:52:00] | darkfire: | i am comfortable with VBScript, i just dont know tooo much about ADO and DAO |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | Gah! |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | MS Access... |
| [19:52:00] | CyberKnet: | ADO is cake |
| [19:52:00] | ** darkfire hides ** | |
| [19:52:00] | ** Beirdo pukes ** | |
| [19:53:00] | darkfire: | Beirdo, they make me do it at work, i beg forgiveness. |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | I'll MS Access you! |
| [19:53:00] | CyberKnet: | DAO is less natural. and MS Access seems to prefer DAO. |
| [19:53:00] | ** CyberKnet mutters about DAO being ten year old technology ** | |
| [19:53:00] | darkfire: | well, access 2000 uses ADO by default, but you can reference in DAO |
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| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | you two MS-lovers need to get a room |
| [19:54:00] | CyberKnet: | aha. I haven't looked at Access in a while. good. ADO is where you want to be at if you have to want something wrt ms access. |
| [19:54:00] | darkfire: | lol, using by choice and getting paid to use is a bit different ;) |
| [19:54:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: let's get this straight. I am NOT an Access lover. |
| [19:54:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: let me first and foremost say that I HATE MS Access. with a passion. |
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| [19:54:00] | darkfire: | CyberKnet, can you point me in the direction of the control that i need to manipulate, reference sheets, any of that? |
| [19:55:00] | CyberKnet: | I abhor it. I despise it. I burn it, piss on its ashes, then burn it again. |
| [19:55:00] | ** Beirdo points at /dev/null ** | |
| [19:55:00] | CyberKnet: | Just so that we're clear. |
| [19:55:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:55:00] | CyberKnet: | darkfire: I can point you to an ADO object model reference that should make this very easy, would that help? |
| [19:55:00] | darkfire: | that'd be perfect |
| [19:55:00] | dant: | CyberKnet, just done RDP over SSH on windows too |
| [19:56:00] | darkfire: | i take it i can just write code that fires when they hit new record on the main form to synch the subforms, or something of that manner? |
| [19:56:00] | dant: | CyberKnet, forwarded local port 1234 to remote box:3389 |
| [19:56:00] | jasoncohen: | CyberKnet, well, if you were wondering about SSH, at least Debian's uses 4096 bit moduli for DH key exchange and 128 bit AES for data encryption with SHA-1 for integriy |
| [19:56:00] | jasoncohen: | *integrity |
| [19:56:00] | dant: | CyberKnet, then in RDC connect to localhost:1234 |
| [19:58:00] | CyberKnet: | dant: that says "You are already connected to the console of this machine" |
| [19:58:00] | CyberKnet: | "The client could not connect. You are already connected to the console of this computer. A new console session cannot be established." |
| [19:59:00] | CyberKnet: | weird. |
| [19:59:00] | CyberKnet: | mstsc.exe / Remote Desktop Connection |
| [19:59:00] | dant: | CyberKnet, XPSP2 here, same there? |
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| [20:00:00] | dant: | CyberKnet, file version of my mstsc.exe 5.1.2600.2180 |
| [20:00:00] | CyberKnet: | xp SP1 |
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| [20:00:00] | laga: | it would be cool to use mythmusic to put new mp3s ond my usb stick. *ponders at learning c++* |
| [20:01:00] | CyberKnet: | version 5.1.2600.1106 |
| [20:01:00] | rtsai: | laga: what's wrong with "cp"? |
| [20:01:00] | dant: | CyberKnet, maybe it was fixed in sp2? |
| [20:01:00] | laga: | rtsai: cp doesn't have a spiffy interface. |
| [20:01:00] | Beirdo: | rtsai: too old-school for a punk like laga :) |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | laga: cp has the best interface possible. |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | bash$ |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:02:00] | Randall64: | If you take the crap out of the debian/rules to override cpu detection, it gets a lot farther. |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | or you could try midnight commander |
| [20:02:00] | CyberKnet: | dant: in RDC under computer, you put localhost:1234 ? |
| [20:02:00] | dant: | CyberKnet, yep |
| [20:03:00] | Beirdo: | which if you ever used Norton Commader under dos... should look familiar |
| [20:03:00] | rtsai: | Beirdo: my problem with laga's thought is that it pushes mythtv into become a glorified remote-controllable xterm |
| [20:03:00] | Beirdo: | Commander even |
| [20:03:00] | laga: | Beirdo: umm...maybe, i want to impress some friends without looking too geeky? 'look, this linux stuff is really cool. let's say i want to put some new mp3s on my usb stick' 1.) mount /dev/sda1 or fix fstab first 2.) use cp to put them on the stick 3.) umount the stick, et voila!' |
| [20:03:00] | laga: | rtsai: mythmusic already burns CDs. |
| [20:04:00] | dant: | mythmusic sucking mp3s off usb sticks it a better idea |
| [20:04:00] | Beirdo: | so use KDE or Gnome |
| [20:04:00] | rtsai: | laga: yeah, I know |
| [20:04:00] | laga: | Beirdo: now, that's lame – my ir keyboard sucks and i don't think kde/gnome stuff will work well with lirc. |
| [20:04:00] | rtsai: | I'm not knocking your idea. I'm just wondering where all this is headed :) |
| [20:04:00] | Beirdo: | lirc-- |
| [20:04:00] | Chutt: | better integration with external memory/portable players would be nice |
| [20:05:00] | Randall64: | But are you knocking his wife? |
| [20:05:00] | dant: | laga, in FC, plug in the stick, click on the icon it created on the desktop when it mounted it |
| [20:05:00] | laga: | yeah, listen to the master ;) |
| [20:05:00] | Chutt: | it'd be the same thing, really |
| [20:05:00] | laga: | dant: listen and repeat after me: i don't wanna click on a fscking icon. |
| [20:05:00] | Chutt: | integrated into mythmusic/etc |
| [20:05:00] | dant: | laga, navigate to icon with keyboard, press enter |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | ssh in and do it like a man :) |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:06:00] | jonK: | i'm thinking about building a interface to mythmusic for a ipaq pda |
| [20:06:00] | laga: | dant: i don't want to run any fc3/kde/gnome bloat on my machines. |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | some integration would be nice though |
| [20:06:00] | ** laga wonder is he would at least understand the source ** | |
| [20:06:00] | jonK: | use both bluetooth and lirc |
| [20:07:00] | jonK: | waiting for the new pda to arrive |
| [20:08:00] | Chutt: | heh |
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| [20:08:00] | Chutt: | i've always wanted a pda interface |
| [20:09:00] | Chutt: | got a dell x50v here that would be perfect for such a thing |
| [20:09:00] | jonK: | should be fairly straigtforward |
| [20:09:00] | travolta: | anyone know of a linux livecd for xbox that has mythtv frontend on it ? |
| [20:09:00] | jonK: | compose some db queries |
| [20:09:00] | Chutt: | well, if you wanted it to be more than just a dumb remote |
| [20:09:00] | jonK: | format results |
| [20:09:00] | jonK: | display |
| [20:09:00] | Chutt: | it'd be nice if it was more two-way communication |
| [20:09:00] | jonK: | that's the bluetooth side |
| [20:09:00] | Chutt: | right |
| [20:10:00] | jonK: | and then lirc for generic myth commands |
| [20:10:00] | Chutt: | yeah, but lirc wouldn't work _that_ well |
| [20:10:00] | Chutt: | you'd want a different way to send specific events, and not keypresses |
| [20:10:00] | jonK: | want to be able to sgen playlists, see what's in tables etc... |
| [20:10:00] | crash-x: | get a smartphone ;) |
| [20:11:00] | jonK: | then i'd have to lear symbian development |
| [20:11:00] | ** rtsai has none of these portable toys ** | |
| [20:11:00] | jonK: | <-- does too |
| [20:11:00] | Randall64: | Isn't Symbian dead? |
| [20:11:00] | crash-x: | well, i have a program that connects my smartphone with my mac and that program can be extended by apple scripts |
| [20:11:00] | jonK: | but really all i ever use it for is a phone |
| [20:11:00] | crash-x: | its pretty easy to make with it a remote |
| [20:11:00] | jonK: | nokia still runs symbian i thought |
| [20:12:00] | Randall64: | on new phones? |
| [20:12:00] | crash-x: | yeah it does |
| [20:12:00] | crash-x: | of course! |
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| [20:12:00] | jonK: | on the one I bought 5 months ago |
| [20:12:00] | crash-x: | symbian is the best cell os! |
| [20:12:00] | Randall64: | It's slooow |
| [20:12:00] | jonK: | errr. demanded from my provider in exchange for another year |
| [20:12:00] | jonK: | i've noticed |
| [20:12:00] | crash-x: | better than windows at least |
| [20:12:00] | crash-x: | ;) |
| [20:12:00] | Randall64: | no idea, I couldn't imagine running M$ on a phone |
| [20:13:00] | jonK: | freaking amazing though, has 4mb memory ... my first 486 came with 4 mb of memory, damn near peed my pants once i saved up enough money to double it to 8 |
| [20:13:00] | Beirdo: | I could crap a better OS than Windows... just feed me some All-Bran |
| [20:13:00] | crash-x: | heh |
| [20:13:00] | crash-x: | my phone has a faster cpu than one of my compiters |
| [20:13:00] | crash-x: | ;) |
| [20:13:00] | crash-x: | computers |
| [20:13:00] | crash-x: | phone 120mhz and compiter 100 ;) |
| [20:14:00] | Beirdo: | compiters -> ass-biters? |
| [20:14:00] | crash-x: | computers |
| [20:14:00] | crash-x: | ;) |
| [20:14:00] | jonK: | I prefer the "thousand typing monkies" analogy rather than sany references to beirdo ass |
| [20:14:00] | jonK: | or ass product |
| [20:14:00] | crash-x: | lol |
| [20:15:00] | Beirdo: | jonK: you leave those monkeys alone... |
| [20:16:00] | Randall64: | There are laws, you know. |
| [20:16:00] | jonK: | i once fired a secretary with that line "a thousand typing monkies could produce better work product" |
| [20:16:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: that's right. it's the sheep he should be after. |
| [20:16:00] | Beirdo: | to quote a command that gets used for fun a lot on the mud... "spank monkey" |
| [20:16:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:16:00] | Beirdo: | "CyberKnet spanks the small monkey... hard..." |
| [20:16:00] | Beirdo: | or something like that |
| [20:17:00] | Beirdo: | that'd be the result seen by others. |
| [20:17:00] | Beirdo: | yes, we tend to be immature at times |
| [20:18:00] | laga: | at times? *cough* |
| [20:18:00] | Beirdo: | laga: you leave the monkeys alone too |
| [20:18:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, I donno, another channel I was in was attempting to do goatse.cx ascii art on a single line and see who could get it the cloest.... |
| [20:18:00] | Beirdo: | Oh jeez |
| [20:18:00] | kormoc: | so no, this is one of my more mature channels :P |
| [20:19:00] | ** kormoc ponders getting new channels to hang in ** | |
| [20:19:00] | jonK: | can i use high ascii? |
| [20:19:00] | kormoc: | jonK, join #lanc-lug and as them :P |
| [20:20:00] | kormoc: | jonK, just be like, hey, I wanna make ascii goatse.cx too, can I use high ascii and see what they say :P |
| [20:20:00] | laga: | /{o}\ |
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| [20:21:00] | ** Beirdo slaps laga with a trout ** | |
| [20:22:00] | jonK: | that might be fun... if i was stupid |
| [20:22:00] | kormoc: | http://groups.google.com/groups?q=aa+ae+ao+ea . . . g.google.com <-- now that's absolutely grand |
| [20:22:00] | jonK: | (to quote the mighty morphin meatwad) |
| [20:22:00] | kormoc: | jonK, they'd laugh I'd say :P and be confused |
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| [20:32:00] | laga: | Beirdo: heh |
| [20:32:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:32:00] | Beirdo: | apparently, our distillery stall on puzzlepirates is doing booming business, but we need more employees :) |
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| [20:37:00] | dh0: | hello, I wanted to doubled check something before i buy. If i get a Hauppauge pvr-350 and i want to connect to my tv I dont need a video card that has a tv-out. right? Will the tv-out on the card work fine with mythtv? |
| [20:39:00] | dh0: | anyone? |
| [20:40:00] | jonK: | yes, the pvr350 has tvout |
| [20:40:00] | jonK: | and yes, it works with mythtv |
| [20:40:00] | Chutt: | mostly |
| [20:40:00] | dh0: | alright cool. |
| [20:41:00] | dh0: | Am i going to need to have amonitor atached to the computer anyway? Or just while i set it up? |
| [20:41:00] | dh0: | a monitor* |
| [20:42:00] | darkfire: | i can use my pvr-350 as the only output |
| [20:43:00] | dh0: | So even when you need to switch to a shell or whatever. it treats it as any other video-card |
| [20:43:00] | dh0: | ? |
| [20:43:00] | jonK: | dh0, you'll need a monitor or shell access |
| [20:43:00] | darkfire: | not so much with the console, but X uses it as just a display |
| [20:43:00] | jonK: | from anotyhere machine |
| [20:44:00] | darkfire: | shell access would work |
| [20:44:00] | dh0: | alright cool |
| [20:44:00] | jonK: | you can't just plug it in and run it like a monitor |
| [20:44:00] | dh0: | yeah, i can ssh in from my pbook |
| [20:44:00] | jonK: | then you're fine |
| [20:44:00] | dh0: | yeah okay. thanks |
| [20:46:00] | dh0: | i havnt read about anyone running this with linux ppc, it should be okay right? I have a c86 machine i can use, but my ppc is faster |
| [20:46:00] | dh0: | x86 |
| [20:46:00] | Randall64: | dh0: ppc support has been sketchy historically (endian issues) |
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| [20:47:00] | Randall64: | It does run on OS X, but I still got artifacts during playback the last time I tried it on linux. |
| [20:48:00] | Immolo: | Hello, I'm setting up mythtv as a client-server setup and I was wondering if the plugins that myth uses need to be on the backend server or the frontend client? |
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| [20:49:00] | dh0: | Randall64: thanks |
| [20:49:00] | dh0: | I may give it a try to see what happens... I can always fall back on my slower intel machine |
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| [21:05:00] | xris: | going through my browser bookmarks... to tell you how old some of these are, I have some gopher:// ones.... |
| [21:06:00] | xris: | surprisingly, they don't work anymore. heh. |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | gopher? you haven't cleaned it up for THAT long? :) |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | wow |
| [21:08:00] | xris: | apparently not. heh. |
| [21:08:00] | xris: | that'd make these ca. 1995–1996. heh. |
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| [21:10:00] | CyberKnet: | nice ;) |
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| [21:14:00] | LostSole: | xris: do any of those gopher:// marks still work? |
| [21:15:00] | Beirdo: | I remember using the gopher client |
| [21:15:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:15:00] | Beirdo: | UMN++ |
| [21:16:00] | Beirdo: | that was before the weeeb existed |
| [21:16:00] | Beirdo: | I also remember using ytalk to chat with a friend at UMN |
| [21:16:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:17:00] | Beirdo: | good luck with that now |
| [21:18:00] | ** CyberKnet moves mail around folders ** | |
| [21:20:00] | xris: | LostSole: like I said, no. |
| [21:20:00] | xris: | were only 2, though. |
| [21:20:00] | xris: | ahh.. ytalk... I remember those days. |
| [21:20:00] | CyberKnet: | eeg. gmail seems to be screwing with the formatting of the commits list emails. |
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| [21:32:00] | CyberKnet: | I *really* need to trim my work inbox down by several hundred messages. |
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| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:32:00] | ** kormoc 's entile email history is only 4 megs. ** | |
| [21:32:00] | kormoc: | *entire |
| [21:33:00] | CyberKnet: | I'm a pack rat. I have work email from day 1 |
| [21:33:00] | ** Beirdo just looked at a retirement fund account he forgot all about ** | |
| [21:33:00] | stoffel: | kormoc: you've got a secretary? |
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| [21:33:00] | kormoc: | stoffel, haha, nopers :P |
| [21:33:00] | CyberKnet: | I'm sure it violates the company's email retention policy, but ... if someone says I was supposed to do something, I want to show them I wasn't =) |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | stoffel: he IS the secretary |
| [21:34:00] | stoffel: | lol |
| [21:35:00] | Beirdo: | he's xris' minion |
| [21:35:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
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| [21:39:00] | bricks: | Hey for MythTV when your recording for over the air tv what kind of graphics card do you need? |
| [21:39:00] | bricks: | is a nice one needed? |
| [21:40:00] | xris: | hey, kormoc's far better than a secretary... for one, he's male, so my wife is happy. ;) |
| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | true |
| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | no need to get her worried :) |
| [21:42:00] | Randall64: | (WW) (1680x1050,Generic Monitor) mode clock 188.07MHz exceeds DDC maximum 150MHz |
| [21:42:00] | Randall64: | flargh |
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| [21:43:00] | bricks: | is there any way to lower the quality of tv? for when i try to watch it on MythTV? |
| [21:43:00] | bricks: | because my signal is a poor quality |
| [21:43:00] | kormoc: | bricks, tune to fox? :P |
| [21:44:00] | stoffel: | hrhr |
| [21:44:00] | kormoc: | bricks, under the setup in the frontend, recording profiles, there's a place in there to set the recording bitrate. |
| [21:45:00] | bricks: | what should it be in your opinion for an over the air signal? |
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| [21:46:00] | kormoc: | bricks, I use 1100 mpeg4, 200 megs a half hour. it's good enough for my cable, for ota, I donno |
| [21:47:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: good one with the Fox jab :) |
| [21:47:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, thank you, thank you |
| [21:47:00] | ** kormoc bows. ** | |
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| [21:49:00] | jonK: | tune to fox, brilliant |
| [21:51:00] | xris: | guinness in a bottle.... (with a widget).. brilliant. |
| [21:51:00] | xris: | guinness in the US.. cold.. really not brilliant. |
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| [22:01:00] | Beirdo: | guinness cold anywhere... not brilliant |
| [22:01:00] | Beirdo: | even if it's the good guinness, that's not brilliant :) |
| [22:02:00] | CyberKnet: | guiness is a drink warm affair, eh? |
| [22:02:00] | ** CyberKnet makes a note to tell his little brother that the cold guiness he got from his place really should have been room temp. ** | |
| [22:04:00] | Beirdo: | guinness should be nearly room temperature |
| [22:04:00] | Beirdo: | 15C I think they recommend? |
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| [22:05:00] | Beirdo: | not ice cold for sure |
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| [22:15:00] | Gozar: | How do I delete channels from the challel list in mythtv-setup? |
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| [22:21:00] | ** Beirdo splats splAt1 ** | |
| [22:21:00] | Gozar: | Is it not possebill to remove a channel? |
| [22:22:00] | stoffel: | well, you can hide channels from the channels editor in mythtv-setup |
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| [22:24:00] | Gozar: | I want to delete the channel, cause I have manual added ít, then when i run mythfilldatabase the challel is added again, so now I have dublets channels :-( |
| [22:29:00] | Gozar: | deleted the channels with mysql |
| [22:31:00] | kormoc: | mythsetup has a clear channels option on startup doesn't it? |
| [22:32:00] | darkfire: | i cant friggin believe it, i finally finished with all my crappy MS Access work for the day, turns out when the interns printed my copy of the survey, they missed a whole section. |
| [22:32:00] | darkfire: | gah. |
| [22:32:00] | Randall64: | Now you must abuse them sexually. |
| [22:32:00] | CyberKnet: | darkfire: nice. |
| [22:33:00] | darkfire: | CyberKnet, i did get all that figured out and working though, thanks for your help |
| [22:33:00] | CyberKnet: | no problem. I hope the information I gave you was useful and able to be used in your solution. |
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| [22:47:00] | Gozar: | kormoc: Yes, but updating the database takes about 1 hour here! |
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| [22:51:00] | Beirdo: | argh |
| [22:52:00] | Beirdo: | I want to record the GMA Music Awards... but they aren't gonna be playing up here at all |
| [22:52:00] | markw_: | any issues I should expect when building a myth box with debian sarge? |
| [22:52:00] | ** Beirdo slaps the broadcasters ** | |
| [22:52:00] | CyberKnet: | good morning america? =P" |
| [22:53:00] | ** Beirdo slaps CyberKnet with a trout ** | |
| [22:53:00] | Beirdo: | Gospel Music Association |
| [22:53:00] | Beirdo: | silly |
| [22:53:00] | Beirdo: | aka the Dove Awards |
| [22:53:00] | CyberKnet: | I wonder why the broadcasters aren't carrying it.... |
| [22:53:00] | darkfire: | heh |
| [22:53:00] | Beirdo: | they don't think there's enough demand? |
| [22:53:00] | CyberKnet: | Gee, you think? |
| [22:53:00] | Beirdo: | it would preempt useless crap like Survivor that makes them more money? |
| [22:53:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [22:54:00] | Gozar: | hmm. mythfrondend only shows static? What could be wrong? |
| [22:56:00] | CyberKnet: | Gozar: perhaps df at the broadcasting station? |
| [22:56:00] | slide23: | Does mythtv take long to build? |
| [22:56:00] | CyberKnet: | slide23: a while. |
| [22:56:00] | Beirdo: | what a generic, impossible question to answer |
| [22:57:00] | slide23: | hrm yea, the download was prety big heh |
| [22:57:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: so answer it in kind: "a while" "not too long" "it gets done quickly enough" |
| [22:57:00] | CyberKnet: | or the infamous "not really" |
| [22:57:00] | slide23: | not, really. If its like kde or gnome or x, then 99.9999 percent of the time someone can answer yes |
| [22:57:00] | slide23: | heh |
| [22:57:00] | Beirdo: | "go make some coffee" |
| [22:57:00] | Gozar: | CyberKnet: ? I can watch stations with mplayer! In fact when i set a station with mplayer, the channel is active in mythtv. But can't switch channel! |
| [22:58:00] | CyberKnet: | Gozar: hmm... it would seem they aren't screwing the pooch at the station then, so you might want to look into other avenues. |
| [23:00:00] | Gozar: | Is channel formart: E8 not valid with mythtv? |
| [23:01:00] | CyberKnet: | E8? |
| [23:02:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: it's a channel naming convention used in Europe some places |
| [23:02:00] | Gozar: | Yes. That's the channel I use With mplayer! mplayer -tv driver=v4l2:channel=e8 tv:// |
| [23:02:00] | Beirdo: | and if you do a whois... |
| [23:03:00] | Beirdo: | Gozar is in Denmark. |
| [23:03:00] | Gozar: | Yes I am :-) |
| [23:03:00] | slide23: | Anyone running mythtv on gentoo? |
| [23:03:00] | kormoc: | indeed |
| [23:03:00] | Beirdo: | Gozar: there is a tv_grab for Denmark, no? |
| [23:03:00] | kormoc: | lots o folks slide23 |
| [23:03:00] | slide23: | ok, just wondering hehe :) |
| [23:03:00] | Gozar: | Yes. tv_grab_dk |
| [23:03:00] | Beirdo: | s/folks/crazy folks/ |
| [23:04:00] | ** slide23 hugs distcc ** | |
| [23:04:00] | Beirdo: | OK, you'll need to setup using that, and likely run it in --manual mode to get the channels mapped, I think |
| [23:04:00] | ** Beirdo gives distcc the finger. ** | |
| [23:04:00] | ** slide23 watches as distcc slaps beirdo ** | |
| [23:04:00] | Beirdo: | stupid nearly-impossible-to-setup-on-cross-platform POS :) |
| [23:04:00] | slide23: | lol |
| [23:04:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:05:00] | slide23: | i set it up in about 20 minutes |
| [23:05:00] | slide23: | and ive been using gentoo for 3 days hehe |
| [23:05:00] | Beirdo: | half my machines are x86 |
| [23:05:00] | Beirdo: | half are AMD64 |
| [23:05:00] | Beirdo: | it's a PITA to use distcc like that, and I gave up after a while |
| [23:05:00] | slide23: | pita? |
| [23:05:00] | Beirdo: | pain in the ass |
| [23:05:00] | slide23: | ah |
| [23:06:00] | stoffel: | AMD64 and still you need distcc? |
| [23:06:00] | Beirdo: | I want to offload compiling from my weaker machines ONTO the AMD64 boxes |
| [23:06:00] | Beirdo: | so yes |
| [23:07:00] | Gozar: | Could I use mplayers freq output with mythtv? Selected channel: E8 (freq: 196.250) |
| [23:07:00] | slide23: | 16:07:02 up 2 days, 18 min, 3 users, load average: 4.90, 3.26, 2.21 |
| [23:07:00] | slide23: | heh |
| [23:07:00] | Beirdo: | I don't know the specifics for Denmark, sorry |
| [23:07:00] | stoffel: | Gozar: can you read german? |
| [23:08:00] | markw_: | prefered fs for video storage? reiser, jfs, xfs?? |
| [23:08:00] | stoffel: | Gozar: http://de-mythwiki.ath.cx/mediawiki-1.3.11/index.php/Hauptseite |
| [23:08:00] | Beirdo: | markw_: xfs, generally |
| [23:08:00] | Beirdo: | ahh, yes, Gozar, talk with the friendly German :) |
| [23:09:00] | Beirdo: | he likely has a better idea than us North American types |
| [23:09:00] | stoffel: | Gozar: there's an article how to set up channels in europe/analog cable (you have to rename some channels, don't remember the details though) |
| [23:09:00] | Gozar: | No can't read german :-( |
| [23:10:00] | stoffel: | Gozar: this might help you: http://de-mythwiki.ath.cx/mediawiki-1.3.11/in . . . ei_Analog-TV |
| [23:11:00] | stoffel: | Gozar: ok, E8 should be working |
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| [23:11:00] | slide23: | Is there a themeing how to or anything? |
| [23:14:00] | Gozar: | Why does changing freq not work in mythtv-setup? |
| [23:16:00] | Randall64: | inferior engineering |
| [23:19:00] | CyberKnet: | oh really? |
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| [23:22:00] | kormoc: | CyberKnet, of course, it works, so it's sucky engineering, now, if it didn't work, that would be perfect! |
| [23:23:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: I guess inferior is the new rocking |
| [23:23:00] | kormoc: | sure :P |
| [23:23:00] | ** kormoc can't wait for hardware mpeg encoders. ** | |
| [23:24:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: cyberknet.net ... now with all the speed and reliability in order shipping as buy.com! |
| [23:24:00] | stoffel: | kormoc: www.hauppauge.com ;) |
| [23:24:00] | stoffel: | unless you mean mpeg4? |
| [23:24:00] | ** kormoc laughs at CyberKnet. ** | |
| [23:24:00] | kormoc: | stoffel, no, there's hardware mpeg 4 as well |
| [23:25:00] | kormoc: | stoffel, but i ment I can't wait to get my own set of hardware mpeg encoders :P |
| [23:25:00] | CyberKnet: | stoffel: yes. he is lamenting my unreliability =) |
| [23:26:00] | stoffel: | hehe |
| [23:26:00] | kormoc: | CyberKnet, the funny thing is, my bttv card is acting up, so like, yeah, it's now to the point, I do need them, not just want them :P |
| [23:26:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: sorry :| |
| [23:27:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: Not that I'm encouraging you not to wait, but certainly do not feel obligated to. |
| [23:27:00] | kormoc: | tis okay, no real hurry. |
| [23:27:00] | CyberKnet: | I'll try to hurry my wife at the liquor shop tonight. |
| [23:27:00] | CyberKnet: | she wanted to go there with some friends. |
| [23:27:00] | kormoc: | it's just, right now, every minute or so, audio repeats for about 2 seconds, it's annoying, but I can deal for a little bit. |
| [23:27:00] | CyberKnet: | hilarity usually ensues that. |
| [23:27:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [23:28:00] | JohnnyQuest (~pyropunk7@242851hfc72.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:31:00] | drd- (~cooter@12-210-19-23.client.insightBB.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:31:00] | darkfire (darkfire@pcp08707517pcs.shrpsr01.tn.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) | |
| [23:31:00] | dh0: | the pvr-350 doesnt need a pc bios, right? it will work on a mac right? My friend clames itwont work. I think he doesnt know what he is talking about, but i wanted to verify. |
| [23:32:00] | xris: | dh0: mac running linux? |
| [23:32:00] | dh0: | yeah |
| [23:32:00] | xris: | no clue |
| [23:32:00] | dh0: | out of curiosity, would it work on os x |
| [23:32:00] | xris: | no drivers |
| [23:33:00] | dh0: | :\ |
| [23:33:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it could work on a mac running linux.. |
| [23:33:00] | Randall64: | It probably won't though. |
| [23:33:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but a mac with osx....you need drivers for it |
| [23:33:00] | CyberKnet: | dh0: talk to the ivtv folks. they're the ones that would know if it would compile in PPC Linux |
| [23:33:00] | dh0: | Randall64, probobly wont what |
| [23:33:00] | dh0: | ivtv? |
| [23:33:00] | JohnnyQuest: | thts the driver for the pvr-150 |
| [23:34:00] | JohnnyQuest: | 350* |
| [23:34:00] | dh0: | okay |
| [23:34:00] | dh0: | do they have a chanel by any chance? |
| [23:34:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i dont know what the channel is for ivtv.. |
| [23:34:00] | dh0: | ok |
| [23:34:00] | kormoc: | #ivtv dh0 |
| [23:34:00] | xris: | #ivtv-dev |
| [23:34:00] | dh0: | lol, that works |
| [23:34:00] | kothog: | dh0? what's that, an amiga reference? |
| [23:34:00] | kormoc: | ooh, -dev :P |
| [23:35:00] | dh0: | no actually. My Name is David Hodge. Friends call me dho. Dho is taken on this network. so i figured i would be a little 1337 |
| [23:35:00] | CyberKnet: | indeed. |
| [23:36:00] | dh0: | kinda like J-lo except its d-ho |
| [23:36:00] | kothog: | Well, if you pretend that it's also an Amiga computer reference you can be really 1337. dh0: is a common and default volume name for an Amiga hard drive. |
| [23:36:00] | dh0: | well cool |
| [23:36:00] | kothog: | mmm... paranomasia... |
| [23:37:00] | CyberKnet: | if only that nick was dothog ... that would be way cooler. |
| [23:45:00] | LostSole: | heh, that reminds me of a friend – his name was Paul Nisbet. So, his J-Lo like nickname was P-Nis. |
| [23:46:00] | CyberKnet: | wouldn't be niz |
| [23:46:00] | CyberKnet: | ? |
| [23:46:00] | jonK: | still works |
| [23:47:00] | CyberKnet: | jonK: you around? |
| [23:47:00] | jonK: | same meme |
| [23:47:00] | jonK: | no |
| [23:47:00] | CyberKnet: | sure you are |
| [23:47:00] | jonK: | por que? |
| [23:47:00] | CyberKnet: | wonder if you might do me a small favor |
| [23:49:00] | CyberKnet: | nice xris =) |
| [23:50:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: yeah, well, brain overload today. |
| [23:51:00] | bjohnson (~bjohnson@ip172-172.dsl.istop.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:52:00] | CyberKnet: | Chutt probably doesn't mind from someone like you who produces more signal than noise usually. |
| [23:53:00] | kormoc: | anyone by chance mind signing up to help me get my lcd monitor? </me asks, way off topic like> |
| [23:54:00] | godsmoke (godsmoke@dsl254-096-007.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:55:00] | godsmoke: | hi — I just found out about firewire capture options in mythtv — anyone have experience capturing HDTV via the SA 3250? |
| [23:55:00] | Johnny_Quest (~mythtv@242851hfc72.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:55:00] | Johnny_Quest: | hello |
| [23:55:00] | Johnny_Quest: | im having some trouble.. |
| [23:56:00] | stoffel: | who hasn't? |
| [23:56:00] | Johnny_Quest: | lol |
| [23:56:00] | Johnny_Quest: | im not sure if my graphics card is broken, or if the drivesr are loaded incorrectly.. |
| [23:57:00] | splAt1 is now known as splat1 | |
| [23:58:00] | Johnny_Quest: | my monitor is displaying my screen once, and then again on then there is a little bit more |
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