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| [00:23:00] | mchou: | so I wondered what happened to the Broadcast Flag amendment in the Senate subcommittee today..... |
| [00:24:00] | twisted_one: | mchou: im scared to ask |
| [00:24:00] | mchou: | twisted_one: there is no need to be scared. |
| [00:25:00] | twisted_one: | why not? |
| [00:25:00] | mchou: | In order for it to pass it need to be approved by both House and Senate. |
| [00:26:00] | mchou: | but it wouldnt hurt to let your reps know your stance on BF :) |
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| [00:46:00] | mchou: | hey, isnt that uncle jr. soprano in the pic? http://apnews.excite.com/image/20050621/CIVIL . . . id=D8AS92580 |
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| [00:49:00] | D-side: | LostSole: so did it work? |
| [00:50:00] | LostSole: | D-side: no, still got the same error. |
| [00:50:00] | D-side: | LostSole: disabled mmx, all that? jeez. |
| [00:51:00] | LostSole: | (sorry for the spam) sudo ./configure --disable-audio-arts --disable-audio-jack --disable-lirc --disable-joystick-menu --disable-firewire --disable-ivtv --enable-xvmc --disable-xrandr --enable-opengl-vsync --enable-memalign-hack --enable-proc-opt --disable-mmx --arch=k8 |
| [00:57:00] | D-side: | LostSole: and k8 is a valid arch target? |
| [00:58:00] | LostSole: | D-side: it should be... let me double-check... |
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| [01:00:00] | LostSole: | bah! no it isn't... "CPU specific ./configure options failed compile test |
| [01:00:00] | LostSole: | what should that be then? |
| [01:00:00] | D-side: | hm. |
| [01:01:00] | LostSole: | --arch=x86_64 doesn't work either... |
| [01:02:00] | D-side: | use athlon-xp |
| [01:02:00] | lithi: | Can someone explain to me the difference between the Hauppauge PVR-150/250? |
| [01:02:00] | D-side: | theres apparently no x86_64 specific option |
| [01:02:00] | Rhapsody-2: | 150 isn't compatible |
| [01:02:00] | D-side: | Rhapsody-2: not entirely true. |
| [01:02:00] | D-side: | the 150 has been working for some people, and support for it has been backported from the devel ivtv driver to the latest stable. |
| [01:02:00] | Rhapsody-2: | works way worse |
| [01:03:00] | D-side: | i havent heard that from anyone. |
| [01:03:00] | Rhapsody-2: | does it do mpeg-2 encoding? |
| [01:03:00] | D-side: | of course it does mpeg2 encoding |
| [01:03:00] | mchou: | Rhapsody: huh?? |
| [01:03:00] | mchou: | my pvr150 work just fine (both of them) |
| [01:03:00] | Rhapsody-2: | the 250 is the officially supported one |
| [01:03:00] | D-side: | lithi: the 150 is cheaper and newer |
| [01:03:00] | Rhapsody-2: | it is newer? |
| [01:03:00] | iggy: | the 250 is hard to get |
| [01:04:00] | lithi: | Would you guys recommend a 250 then? |
| [01:04:00] | D-side: | lithi: you'd probably save about $30 by getting a 150. |
| [01:04:00] | mchou: | Rhapsody-2: officially??? Who is the official? |
| [01:04:00] | iggy: | and both of my 150's have been working charmingly since Feb. |
| [01:04:00] | LostSole: | D-side: same result with athlon-xp. (But at least no ./configure error, so I suppose that's something. ;) ) |
| [01:04:00] | D-side: | the 150 is "officially" supported in the latest ivtv anyway. |
| [01:04:00] | D-side: | so what a crap argument that is. |
| [01:04:00] | Rhapsody-2: | u can get a 250 on eBay with remote for under $100 |
| [01:04:00] | mchou: | D-side: exactly :) |
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| [01:04:00] | iggy: | Rhapsody-2: that's the roslyn card more than likely |
| [01:05:00] | D-side: | iggy: yeah you beat me to it. |
| [01:05:00] | D-side: | the 150 will work. |
| [01:05:00] | rtsai: | LostSole: amd64-specific options are supported until gcc-3.4, so if you're using gcc-3.3 I think you're out of luck |
| [01:05:00] | Rhapsody-2: | im going to get a 250 off of eBay |
| [01:05:00] | iggy: | roslyn doesn't work with ivtv (if at all) |
| [01:05:00] | mchou: | yup. Better be careful w/fleabay. |
| [01:05:00] | D-side: | Rhapsody-2: then you're most likely not going to have a working card. |
| [01:05:00] | rtsai: | ^are not supported until gcc-3.4 |
| [01:05:00] | D-side: | LostSole: he might be right. |
| [01:05:00] | Rhapsody-2: | which 250's aren't supported? |
| [01:05:00] | mchou: | lol |
| [01:05:00] | D-side: | Rhapsody-2: ivtv.sourceforge.net |
| [01:05:00] | rtsai: | i have same situation with my amd64 system |
| [01:05:00] | D-side: | go read yourself. |
| [01:06:00] | D-side: | LostSole: based on his above comment, i'm sure he IS right. :) |
| [01:06:00] | LostSole: | Yeah, but gcc-3.4 is installed though... |
| [01:06:00] | mchou: | dude comes in here claiming 150s work way worse but isnt aware which 250 arent supported...... |
| [01:06:00] | rtsai: | you probably have both gcc-3.3 and gcc-3.4 installed |
| [01:06:00] | D-side: | LostSole: gcc --version ? |
| [01:06:00] | rtsai: | and default is likely gcc-3.3 |
| [01:07:00] | mchou: | not to mention he doesnt have 150 or 250 to speak knowledgeably on the matter..... |
| [01:07:00] | lithi: | Are all 150s supported? Or what exactly should I look for (I want one with a remote pref) |
| [01:08:00] | LostSole: | yup --version is gcc3.3 . Damn. :/ |
| [01:08:00] | D-side: | mchou: i think we can safely ignore him from now on. |
| [01:08:00] | D-side: | lithi: i *think* so |
| [01:08:00] | D-side: | lithi: www.pcalchemy.com |
| [01:08:00] | D-side: | i've used them twice. i love their prices and service. |
| [01:08:00] | Rhapsody-2: | is the 150 better? does it have hardware encoding/decoding? |
| [01:08:00] | LostSole: | Rhapsody-2: go read that Hauppage webpage :) |
| [01:09:00] | D-side: | jesus. "the 150 stinks dont buy it" |
| [01:09:00] | mchou: | it's not "better." Just cheaper. |
| [01:09:00] | D-side: | "whats on a 150?" |
| [01:09:00] | D-side: | ridiculous. |
| [01:09:00] | JonK: | 150 stinks? |
| [01:10:00] | Rhapsody-2: | maybe i will get one |
| [01:10:00] | D-side: | JonK: thats basically what this guy was aiming at. |
| [01:10:00] | D-side: | JonK: having no knowledge of what he was talking about. |
| [01:10:00] | JonK: | which guy? — I've missed something |
| [01:10:00] | mchou: | JonK: dont worry, guy was clueless :) |
| [01:10:00] | JonK: | but then again, i'm awful slow |
| [01:10:00] | D-side: | JonK: yeah i noticed. lets just drop it, this is going to go nowhere fast. :D |
| [01:10:00] | iggy: | yeah, don't worry about it |
| [01:10:00] | JonK: | ok |
| [01:10:00] | D-side: | so. |
| [01:10:00] | iggy: | the 150 supposedly has a better comb filter |
| [01:10:00] | D-side: | anyone ever make a learning remote work with an IR keyboard? |
| [01:11:00] | Rhapsody-2: | my mistake, i thought the 150 was older, not newer, sorry |
| [01:11:00] | JonK: | many have, however, not me |
| [01:11:00] | iggy: | but some people seem to think the newer tuners are going down hill, so you won't really see much better quality out of it |
| [01:11:00] | D-side: | iggy: really? |
| [01:11:00] | mchou: | some newer tuners are flakey...... |
| [01:11:00] | JonK: | im using a snapstream firefly, and a pvr350 remote, although i borked the ir receiver for the 350, and need a replacement |
| [01:12:00] | mchou: | JonK: borked? how so? broken wire? |
| [01:12:00] | JonK: | yes, seperated the jack from the rest of the appartus |
| [01:12:00] | Rhapsody-2: | is the 150MCE compatible? |
| [01:12:00] | JonK: | sub optimal handling |
| [01:12:00] | iggy: | D-side: yeah, from what I understand of the situation (which arguably isn't a great amount) |
| [01:12:00] | mchou: | JonK: bah, solder a new one on :) |
| [01:13:00] | JonK: | I tried that once with an earphone jack and got nowere, was afriad I'd have the same experience, and if it's sub $10 replaceable, i'd just as soon replace |
| [01:14:00] | JonK: | or get the tivo remote working, anyone ever get a tivo remote working witth lirc? |
| [01:14:00] | mchou: | I do wonder how much hauppauge will charge for a replacement for that thing...... |
| [01:14:00] | JonK: | or the Ipaq pda? I'm about to buy one with remote capabilities... thought I'd code up a pda interface to mythconverg |
| [01:15:00] | iggy: | they aren't hauppauge specific |
| [01:15:00] | JonK: | know where I can obtain one iggy? |
| [01:15:00] | iggy: | I've got like 20 of them that I.... borrowed... from a client |
| [01:15:00] | JonK: | well, iggy, let me introduce you to my home address |
| [01:15:00] | iggy: | no idea |
| [01:15:00] | mchou: | haha!! |
| [01:15:00] | D-side: | heh |
| [01:15:00] | D-side: | LostSole: well?! |
| [01:15:00] | JonK: | was thinking I could use the pda to generate mp3 playlists |
| [01:16:00] | JonK: | and send em via bluetooth, and control via lirc |
| [01:16:00] | mchou: | JonK: man, that's abit extreme :) |
| [01:16:00] | LostSole: | D-side: well what? I'm stuck with gcc3.3, and trying to figure out how to build it with 3.4 (if it would at all)... |
| [01:16:00] | iggy: | LostSole: what distro? |
| [01:17:00] | lithi: | Will the "Hauppauge WinTv-PVR 150 MCE" work with MythTV or does that ONLY work with windows? |
| [01:17:00] | JonK: | you think? I thought the pda would be a great to to display mythconverg data, select things for playback, etc... |
| [01:17:00] | LostSole: | iggy: was trying to put together mythtv 0.18 packages for Ubuntu on an AMD64... |
| [01:17:00] | JonK: | i think IVTV is linux only, |
| [01:17:00] | iggy: | lithi: I have 2 of them in my mythbackend |
| [01:18:00] | JonK: | alright... no more disinformation |
| [01:18:00] | JonK: | lithi, hauppague makes their cards for windows |
| [01:18:00] | JonK: | the MCE stands for media center edition |
| [01:18:00] | iggy: | JonK: so does every other hardware manuf in the world |
| [01:18:00] | JonK: | not pchd3000! |
| [01:18:00] | iggy: | that doesn't mean it _can't_ work |
| [01:18:00] | mchou: | lol! |
| [01:18:00] | JonK: | he asked |
| [01:19:00] | JonK: | if it was linux only |
| [01:19:00] | mchou: | JonK: touche! |
| [01:19:00] | iggy: | okay, you found 1 out of 3579654729378575 companies |
| [01:19:00] | JonK: | that's all i need to disprove your "every" |
| [01:19:00] | lithi: | JonK: I asked if it was Windows only.. but thanks |
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| [01:19:00] | JonK: | i misunderstood then, sorry |
| [01:19:00] | mchou: | spoken like a true mathematician/lawyer!! |
| [01:19:00] | iggy: | THE PVR 150 MCE WORKS IN LINUX JUST FINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| [01:19:00] | JonK: | we know |
| [01:19:00] | lithi: | iggy: Thanks :D |
| [01:20:00] | JonK: | even johnnyquest got one running |
| [01:20:00] | mchou: | haha!! |
| [01:21:00] | JonK: | mchou: you think the pda control/command interface would be overkill? |
| [01:22:00] | mchou: | JonK: I really dunno. mythmusic interface is rather sucky :) |
| [01:22:00] | JonK: | part of my point |
| [01:22:00] | JonK: | build my own |
| [01:23:00] | D-side: | LostSole: does dpkg agree that 3.3 is the only version you've got? :) |
| [01:25:00] | mchou: | JonK: I just think a iPod woud be cheaper after all is said and done :) |
| [01:26:00] | JonK: | I have a Rio carbon — quite like it... |
| [01:26:00] | mchou: | I thought Rios all had some issues..... |
| [01:26:00] | xris: | JonK: "media center edition" doesn't refer to Windows Media Center. |
| [01:26:00] | xris: | it refers to "media center computers" |
| [01:26:00] | JonK: | Really? cool |
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| [01:27:00] | xris: | which are "all the rage" these days. |
| [01:27:00] | mchou: | xris: huh??? |
| [01:27:00] | JonK: | I thought it MCE meant hardware that was approved to run on windows mce |
| [01:27:00] | mchou: | exactly. |
| [01:27:00] | xris: | mchou: companies all over the places are making media center pc's, and not all of them run windows MCE |
| [01:27:00] | mchou: | dunno what xris is referring to. |
| [01:28:00] | mchou: | MCE means "certified for use with MCE" |
| [01:28:00] | xris: | ok, well maybe on the hauppauge cards it does. but I do know that those cards are being used in non-windows media center machines. |
| [01:28:00] | LostSole: | D-side: I'm probably being more clueless than usual – how would I check that with dpkg? |
| [01:28:00] | JonK: | and hardware not "certified" wont run, or at least the os wont install, or so i thought |
| [01:28:00] | xris: | JonK: in my experience, it doesn't run either way. |
| [01:28:00] | xris: | (well, my boss' experience) |
| [01:28:00] | mchou: | haha! |
| [01:29:00] | JonK: | never used it, so no idea |
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| [01:29:00] | JonK: | microsoft has such shiny pretty people on their website |
| [01:29:00] | xris: | mchou: he even took a class from M$ (got him a free card and ir blaster)... but he never could even get it to work with analog cable. |
| [01:30:00] | mchou: | xris: haha!! |
| [01:30:00] | mchou: | xris: which card did he get? |
| [01:30:00] | xris: | he'll be setting up a mythbox once he gets the hardware together again (his wife appropriated the media box for her own use) |
| [01:30:00] | JonK: | maybe he should go to the expert zone at microsoft.com they say it's for everyone with tipes, downloards and friendly experts! |
| [01:30:00] | xris: | 150, dunno if it was mce or retail |
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| [01:30:00] | JonK: | im intrigued and going to read more |
| [01:31:00] | mchou: | if he got irblaster it's most likely 150 retail. |
| [01:32:00] | xris: | mchou: no guarantees, though. it was a packet given out by M$. but probably. |
| [01:32:00] | xris: | nice goodies we get as vendors, I guess. |
| [01:32:00] | ** xris still wishes that intel would hurry up with the good deal on a system board. ** | |
| [01:32:00] | mchou: | MCE definitely doesnt work with QAM. |
| [01:34:00] | JonK: | do any of the pvt-x50 cards? |
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| [01:35:00] | mchou: | JonK: nope :) |
| [01:35:00] | Mez: | hmm |
| [01:35:00] | mchou: | I was referring to ATSC/QAM cards....... |
| [01:35:00] | Mez: | I have no idea to set this fecking thing up |
| [01:35:00] | D-side: | xris: there was an amd event in my hometown today (couldnt make it, hand to work) |
| [01:35:00] | Mez: | does mythtv have to run as a seperate X session – cant it run in my current session? |
| [01:35:00] | xris: | D-side: yeah, we have one here soon. kormoc is thinking of going. |
| [01:35:00] | xris: | $250 for cpu and mobo |
| [01:35:00] | D-side: | xris: $250 for an Athlon64 3200+ w/ Asus motherboard |
| [01:36:00] | D-side: | yeah |
| [01:36:00] | mchou: | D-side: you didnt got get the nice proc/mobo combo? |
| [01:36:00] | mchou: | go* |
| [01:36:00] | D-side: | mchou: couldnt get out of work. |
| [01:36:00] | xris: | my thing is that I kind of want a shuttle |
| [01:36:00] | D-side: | and i'm more broke than i've ever been. |
| [01:36:00] | xris: | don't need a big beefy case for a workstation. |
| [01:36:00] | D-side: | no dental insurance and a $1200 root canal on saturday |
| [01:36:00] | xris: | ouch |
| [01:36:00] | mchou: | ouch!!! |
| [01:36:00] | D-side: | $500 for a dual opteron system though. :/ |
| [01:36:00] | D-side: | yeaht ell me about it. |
| [01:36:00] | D-side: | medical isnt bad at all, but dental is a frigging joke. :/ |
| [01:36:00] | xris: | wish I had a use for something like that. |
| [01:36:00] | Mez: | can anyone help me with getting mythtv set up |
| [01:37:00] | Mez: | I've no idea whats going on |
| [01:37:00] | xris: | Mez: depends on what your problem is. :) |
| [01:37:00] | SarahEmm: | mez: what's the issue? |
| [01:37:00] | D-side: | xris: for that price i'd find a use. :) |
| [01:37:00] | Mez: | well... I'm not seeming to receive any channels or anything |
| [01:37:00] | Mez: | and the setup program is confusing as hell |
| [01:38:00] | xris: | D-side: I'd rather put money into my yard. |
| [01:38:00] | D-side: | you wacky homeowners. |
| [01:38:00] | ** xris still has about $300 in dirt to buy. ** | |
| [01:38:00] | D-side: | needing things like gutters and fences |
| [01:38:00] | Mez: | to be fair – I'd rather thry and confirugre it through mysQL |
| [01:38:00] | xris: | Mez: what card/distro? |
| [01:39:00] | Mez: | Winfast PVR ... |
| [01:39:00] | Mez: | Leadtek * |
| [01:39:00] | Mez: | and ubuntu |
| [01:39:00] | SarahEmm: | mez: uhh, you want to use mythsetup, not mysql... |
| [01:39:00] | SarahEmm: | mez: you're RTFM'ed? |
| [01:39:00] | SarahEmm: | does your tuner work in other apps? |
| [01:39:00] | kormoc: | You Are Read The Fucking Manualed? |
| [01:39:00] | kormoc: | :P |
| [01:39:00] | Mez: | it works fine under tvtime |
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| [01:40:00] | Mez: | kormoc – where is the manual |
| [01:40:00] | kormoc: | mythtv.org |
| [01:40:00] | xris: | Mez: you run xmltv? |
| [01:40:00] | SarahEmm: | kormoc: oops. that was supposed to be "you've RTFMed?' |
| [01:41:00] | kormoc: | SarahEmm, I figured, I just found it rather amusing :) |
| [01:41:00] | Mez: | I intalled xmltv yes xris |
| [01:41:00] | xris: | Mez: did you run it? |
| [01:41:00] | mchou: | oh, anyone running a wireless laptop here? |
| [01:41:00] | Mez: | ? |
| [01:41:00] | JonK: | even still sarahemm the "ed" at the end makes no sense |
| [01:41:00] | mchou: | with linux, of course. |
| [01:41:00] | xris: | run mythtvsetup, configure your listings provider (as an input source), exit, then run mythfilldatabase. |
| [01:42:00] | SarahEmm: | mchou: yep |
| [01:42:00] | mchou: | $300 for dirt is not "dirt cheap" :) |
| [01:42:00] | mchou: | SarahEmm: what wireless chip you got on laptop? |
| [01:42:00] | Mez: | xris... I've got stuff in my database wihcih seems to have come from xmltv |
| [01:42:00] | kormoc: | JonK, it does if the RTFM is now it's own word. |
| [01:42:00] | D-side: | anyone ever see the "100 calorie packs" of snacks in the stores? i'm trying the oreo ones for the first time. |
| [01:43:00] | xris: | Mez: you didn't answer my question. |
| [01:43:00] | Mez: | but it has channum and freid set to the same thing |
| [01:43:00] | SarahEmm: | mchou: centrino |
| [01:43:00] | Mez: | xris – I did that |
| [01:43:00] | Mez: | and that filled my DB |
| [01:43:00] | SarahEmm: | one sec, lemme grab the more specific name |
| [01:43:00] | Mez: | apparently |
| [01:43:00] | D-side: | i've decided these aren't bad enough for me, so i'm sticking a tablespoon of peanut butter on it to compensate. |
| [01:43:00] | mchou: | SarahEmm: hmm. That works in linux no problems :) |
| [01:43:00] | xris: | Dibblah: you awake? (or any other UK users?) |
| [01:44:00] | xris: | Mez: maybe there's something special to do for UK setups... |
| [01:44:00] | SarahEmm: | mchou: *nods* it does, why? |
| [01:44:00] | Mez: | xris – i think it might have errored out before |
| [01:44:00] | mchou: | SarahEmm: looking at lappy with broadcom...... |
| [01:44:00] | gr8nash: | anyone know the name of the import script for importing previously recorded tv shows into the database |
| [01:44:00] | gr8nash: | ? |
| [01:44:00] | SarahEmm: | mchou: ahh |
| [01:45:00] | mchou: | SarahEmm: no idea how much a pita ndiswrapper is. |
| [01:45:00] | mchou: | SarahEmm: want someone to boost my confidence |
| [01:45:00] | Mez: | xris – all i'm getting is a blue screen |
| [01:45:00] | mchou: | what I dont get is wrt54g has broadcom, so howcom no broadcom driver in linux? |
| [01:46:00] | Mez: | oh, btw, any way to ge thte damn thing to work with arts? |
| [01:46:00] | mchou: | how come* |
| [01:46:00] | mchou: | weirdness. |
| [01:46:00] | SarahEmm: | mchou: a Lot. |
| [01:46:00] | SarahEmm: | (re: ndiswrapper) |
| [01:46:00] | xris: | Mez: yeah, you might have to compile it in manually, though. |
| [01:46:00] | ** Mez rolls eyes ** | |
| [01:46:00] | SarahEmm: | mchou: because linksys bought a license for it |
| [01:47:00] | Mez: | probably for the bext anyways |
| [01:47:00] | Mez: | best |
| [01:47:00] | Mez: | xris – can i /query you |
| [01:47:00] | xris: | Mez: if you think your channel table is messed up, just rerun mythtv-setup and answer yes to the both "wipe" questions. |
| [01:47:00] | xris: | Mez: not at the moment, about to walk off to a meeting. |
| [01:47:00] | Mez: | fair enough |
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| [01:57:00] | Mez: | godamnit mythtv is a pain in the arse |
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| [01:57:00] | mchou: | go get a tivo then :) |
| [01:58:00] | rjune: | SarahEmm: but did linksys ever comply with the gpl? |
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| [01:59:00] | mchou: | rjune: sure, they release code. |
| [01:59:00] | SarahEmm: | rjune: it's a module... |
| [01:59:00] | SarahEmm: | they release code for what they have to |
| [01:59:00] | SarahEmm: | the broadcom stuff, they don't have to |
| [01:59:00] | rjune: | just because it's a module don't mean it' |
| [02:00:00] | rjune: | it doesnt have to be gpl. I thought linksys didn't want to comply for a while |
| [02:00:00] | mchou: | no, they complied...... |
| [02:00:00] | SarahEmm: | modules have different requirements |
| [02:00:00] | SarahEmm: | look at nvidia, for example |
| [02:01:00] | mchou: | after they because aware of the "consequences" |
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| [02:01:00] | rjune: | yeah I know. i was just curious if they ever complied. |
| [02:01:00] | JonK: | *cough* lpgl v. gpl *cough* |
| [02:01:00] | rjune: | JonK: heh |
| [02:01:00] | SarahEmm: | rjune: yeah, they did |
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| [02:02:00] | mchou: | rjune: if they didnt comply I dont think there would have been hacked firmware :) |
| [02:02:00] | mchou: | which is one of the main selling points for wrt54 :) |
| [02:02:00] | rjune: | heh |
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| [02:03:00] | rjune: | found out today that the WG511 has two different controller chips. one works great, the other... dont' |
| [02:03:00] | mchou: | I'm using openwrt right now even :) |
| [02:03:00] | mchou: | what is that, a router or a nic? |
| [02:03:00] | JonK: | does my wcg 200 fit anywhere within this? |
| [02:03:00] | rjune: | mchou: nic |
| [02:04:00] | rjune: | 802.11G nic. i had a couple of the 511s from one batch, they worked fine, got one recently and it don't work, come to find out it's revision two and they changed everything |
| [02:04:00] | mchou: | the "made in china" ones dont work in linux :) |
| [02:05:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [02:05:00] | rjune: | they're all made in china |
| [02:06:00] | JonK: | his point remains... |
| [02:06:00] | mchou: | heh |
| [02:07:00] | mchou: | rjune: do you need to use ndiswrapper? |
| [02:08:00] | rjune: | yeah |
| [02:08:00] | mchou: | how much of a pita is that? |
| [02:08:00] | rjune: | it kinda works with ndiswrapper. has a tendancy to crash. I like the prism based cards better |
| [02:09:00] | mchou: | hmm. that sux. |
| [02:09:00] | rjune: | ayup |
| [02:09:00] | rjune: | but still, kinda crashes is better then nothing |
| [02:09:00] | rjune: | at least the centrino stuff works |
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| [02:36:00] | JonK: | evening |
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| [02:39:00] | benklop: | hello everyone |
| [02:42:00] | benklop: | i'm having an odd issue with my mythtv istallation. recording doesnt seem to work; selecting a program for recording will either do nothing, or crash mysql. |
| [02:42:00] | benklop: | any ideas? |
| [02:43:00] | SarahEmm: | nothing in the backend log? |
| [02:44:00] | benklop: | hmm.. ill see |
| [02:44:00] | JonK: | or the mysql log.. |
| [02:44:00] | benklop: | i'll tail both of them |
| [02:44:00] | benklop: | jas |
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| [02:52:00] | benklop: | well, mythbackend keeps saying an error |
| [02:52:00] | benklop: | its a few lines long though |
| [02:52:00] | SarahEmm: | pastebin it |
| [02:52:00] | SarahEmm: | (pastebin.ca) |
| [02:53:00] | benklop: | aight |
| [02:53:00] | benklop: | http://pastebin.ca/15448 |
| [02:53:00] | SarahEmm: | uhh |
| [02:54:00] | SarahEmm: | did you import the database? |
| [02:54:00] | benklop: | well, it has been working fine for about 2 months now... |
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| [02:54:00] | benklop: | then today this started happening |
| [02:54:00] | SarahEmm: | oh... |
| [02:54:00] | JonK: | do you have any backups of the db? |
| [02:54:00] | SarahEmm: | umm, the jobqueue.myi file is missing.. |
| [02:54:00] | SarahEmm: | your database is Broken |
| [02:54:00] | benklop: | how does that happen |
| [02:54:00] | benklop: | no i didnt |
| [02:54:00] | JonK: | login to mysql |
| [02:54:00] | JonK: | mysql -u root -p mythconverg |
| [02:55:00] | JonK: | then |
| [02:55:00] | JonK: | table repair jobqueue |
| [02:55:00] | JonK: | err |
| [02:55:00] | JonK: | table repair jobqueue; |
| [02:55:00] | JonK: | or the other way around |
| [02:55:00] | JonK: | repair table jobqueue; |
| [02:55:00] | benklop: | heh |
| [02:55:00] | SarahEmm: | .myi is index? |
| [02:55:00] | benklop: | now.. what did that passwd get set to... |
| [02:56:00] | Chutt: | hrm, newegg's got 4400+'s in stock, but only oem |
| [02:56:00] | benklop: | ok it said mythconverg.jobqueue | repair | status | OK |
| [02:57:00] | JonK: | try runningi mythbackend again |
| [02:57:00] | JonK: | did it set any rows? |
| [02:57:00] | benklop: | ok, need to restart it? |
| [02:57:00] | benklop: | yes |
| [02:57:00] | benklop: | 1 row |
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| [02:58:00] | JonK: | also run mysqlcheck -r -umythtv -p<password> mythconverg |
| [02:58:00] | JonK: | should repair any other tables |
| [02:59:00] | JonK: | (could have just ran that from the beginning) |
| [02:59:00] | doughecka: | I have a question, what kind of hardware would I need to record up to 2 satellite streams at one time, while at the same time, possibly playing that to 4 diferent computers? |
| [02:59:00] | benklop: | hmm.output from mythbackend doesnt look right |
| [02:59:00] | SarahEmm: | benklop: how so? |
| [02:59:00] | JonK: | kill it and run the mysqlchck -r |
| [02:59:00] | JonK: | line above |
| [02:59:00] | benklop: | about to paste |
| [02:59:00] | doughecka: | and is there a good website that has info like that, I had one awhile back, but I forgot the link |
| [02:59:00] | JonK: | i think you'd need a WOPR |
| [03:00:00] | benklop: | http://pastebin.ca/15450 |
| [03:00:00] | doughecka: | chess? |
| [03:00:00] | SarahEmm: | err |
| [03:00:00] | SarahEmm: | is mysql running, benklop? |
| [03:00:00] | SarahEmm: | it looks like it's not |
| [03:00:00] | JonK: | good question |
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| [03:01:00] | JonK: | the WOPR had many blinking lights; it very smart |
| [03:01:00] | benklop: | it says it is but desnt seem to be |
| [03:01:00] | JonK: | what says it is? |
| [03:01:00] | benklop: | it must have just died |
| [03:01:00] | JonK: | start it, run mysqlcheck -r .... |
| [03:01:00] | benklop: | it doesnt want to start |
| [03:02:00] | JonK: | hmm.... why not? |
| [03:02:00] | benklop: | ok, i got it |
| [03:02:00] | JonK: | blinking LED's == smartness for computer |
| [03:02:00] | doughecka: | JonK: very true, thats why I push the button on the front of dell servers, to get it to flash its light |
| [03:03:00] | SarahEmm: | doughecka: just be Really Careful you push the 'identify' and not the 'power' ;) |
| [03:03:00] | doughecka: | indeed |
| [03:03:00] | doughecka: | :) |
| [03:03:00] | benklop: | http://pastebin.ca/15451 still having an issue, mysql IS running |
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| [03:04:00] | SarahEmm: | is it still running now, benklop? |
| [03:04:00] | JonK: | damn i find trillian annoying sometimes |
| [03:04:00] | SarahEmm: | looks like it died partway through? |
| [03:04:00] | JonK: | It's no WOPR |
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| [03:05:00] | leOn: | hello |
| [03:05:00] | doughecka: | JonK: : get miranda |
| [03:05:00] | JonK: | usually i just use bitchx |
| [03:05:00] | benklop: | says it is still running, ps -aux|grep mysqld shows about 8 processes |
| [03:06:00] | SarahEmm: | benklop: can you connect with mysql? |
| [03:06:00] | JonK: | easy fix... reboot |
| [03:06:00] | SarahEmm: | from command line? |
| [03:06:00] | benklop: | using? |
| [03:06:00] | SarahEmm: | 'mysql' |
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| [03:06:00] | JonK: | i know people have a thing about that, but damn sometimes it just works |
| [03:06:00] | benklop: | yes i can |
| [03:06:00] | SarahEmm: | hrm |
| [03:06:00] | SarahEmm: | anything in the mysql logs/ |
| [03:06:00] | leOn: | i've just installed mythtv, i run mythtv-setup, but after asking about keeping the channels or not, it just freezes, and i watch XFree86 using up 90+% of cpu usage |
| [03:07:00] | leOn: | and it stays that way until i kill the X session |
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| [03:07:00] | leOn: | any ideas on what might be causing this..? |
| [03:07:00] | benklop: | SarahEmm: nothing abnormal looking |
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| [03:08:00] | SarahEmm: | i dunno then, sowwy :( |
| [03:08:00] | JonK: | sometimes, patent examiners are clueless |
| [03:08:00] | benklop: | any way i can fix this in a destruxctive manner.. eg reset the DB |
| [03:08:00] | JonK: | sometimes, the're albert einstein, but mostly, the former |
| [03:08:00] | benklop: | anythingto make it work |
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| [03:08:00] | JonK: | ben, yes, you will lose all of your current programs and guide data |
| [03:09:00] | JonK: | you might be able to reimport current recordings later |
| [03:09:00] | JonK: | did you try rebooting and then running mysqlcheck? |
| [03:09:00] | benklop: | yeah, just now |
| [03:09:00] | benklop: | it found one warning |
| [03:10:00] | JonK: | which one |
| [03:10:00] | benklop: | warning : Number of rows changed from 332091 to 332116 |
| [03:10:00] | benklop: | status : OK |
| [03:10:00] | JonK: | sweet |
| [03:10:00] | benklop: | mythconverg.recordedmarkup |
| [03:10:00] | JonK: | try again |
| [03:10:00] | benklop: | ok |
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| [03:10:00] | JonK: | you might be fine now, it found and corrected an error |
| [03:10:00] | benklop: | ok cool |
| [03:10:00] | benklop: | seems to look ok |
| [03:11:00] | leOn: | could this problem i have be caused by the fact that it's a headless machine and i'm doing things displaying directly on tv? |
| [03:11:00] | benklop: | we'll see when i try to record somthing |
| [03:11:00] | JonK: | well it found somethign wrong in the recorded table no? |
| [03:13:00] | benklop: | yes |
| [03:13:00] | JonK: | a table i'd expect to be accesed when you record something |
| [03:14:00] | JonK: | so hopefully this will fix it |
| [03:17:00] | JonK: | waiting.... |
| [03:19:00] | leOn: | anyone has a clue why is X eating up 98% of CPU while running mythtv-setup ? |
| [03:19:00] | JohnnyQuest: | no |
| [03:20:00] | JonK: | you're not running on the WOPR? |
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| [03:20:00] | JohnnyQuest: | no one on earth does, were all clueless about it |
| [03:20:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but, i dont know |
| [03:21:00] | leOn: | JonK: was that for me? |
| [03:21:00] | JonK: | yes, but it was very unhelpful, sorry |
| [03:21:00] | leOn: | what is WOPR? |
| [03:22:00] | JonK: | War Operation Plan Response |
| [03:22:00] | JonK: | it's used to play global thermonuclear war |
| [03:22:00] | JonK: | god i love wikipedia |
| [03:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | and chess, and tic tac toe! :) |
| [03:23:00] | JonK: | yes, but what it really loved, what GTNW! |
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| [03:31:00] | mchou: | haha, I'm listening to the news and the studio execs are complaining "Batman Begins" opening wkend didnt have enough ticket sales. |
| [03:32:00] | JonK: | can you call in and tell them suck balls? |
| [03:32:00] | mchou: | 20-yr slump in movie weekend receipts. |
| [03:32:00] | JonK: | err them: suck balls |
| [03:32:00] | mchou: | and AMC wants to show more ads in theatres. |
| [03:32:00] | JonK: | missed a colon |
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| [03:33:00] | mchou: | they wanna to raise ticket prices to boot too :) |
| [03:33:00] | JonK: | I wonder if it's a felony to tape the ads, or just the movie |
| [03:34:00] | mchou: | you get to pay fore the privilege of watching more ads :) |
| [03:34:00] | mchou: | for* |
| [03:34:00] | mchou: | it's all the same to MPAA :) |
| [03:34:00] | mchou: | copyright infringement :) |
| [03:35:00] | JonK: | skipping commercials is theft! |
| [03:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya.... |
| [03:35:00] | JonK: | it breaks the fundamental contract of TV! |
| [03:35:00] | mchou: | I think nobody are going to threatres anymore because ticke prices are so expensive. |
| [03:35:00] | JonK: | soon: cats and dogs will be living in sin |
| [03:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its 5 bux here for a movie |
| [03:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but thats a student rate.. |
| [03:35:00] | JonK: | no, nobody goes to movies anymore becuase movies freakign suck, hollywood has been out of ideas for years |
| [03:35:00] | mchou: | like you can buy the whole dvd for price of one ticket now :) |
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| [03:36:00] | JonK: | for gods sake, dukes of hazard? bewitched? |
| [03:36:00] | mchou: | JonK: that too :) |
| [03:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [03:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [03:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i saw batman begins |
| [03:36:00] | mchou: | JonK: couldnt agree more. |
| [03:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it was suprisingly decent.. |
| [03:36:00] | mchou: | dukes of hazzard? that wasnt even good back in the day...... |
| [03:36:00] | Nodecam: | Hey all. Anyone know much about the xbox remote? |
| [03:37:00] | JonK: | mine needs batteries |
| [03:37:00] | Nodecam: | ;) |
| [03:37:00] | JonK: | and it won't control the WOPR |
| [03:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | theres one good thing in dukes of hazzard, and its not th emovie |
| [03:37:00] | Nodecam: | mine stops responding every now and then – It works fine after a reboot though. |
| [03:37:00] | JonK: | if you say jessica simpson, I will physically have to cause you pain |
| [03:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [03:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well thats the best thing in the movie.... |
| [03:38:00] | mchou: | JohnnyQuest: were do you live where tix are $5? |
| [03:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | florida |
| [03:38:00] | JonK: | her acting is so bad i fear watching it will give me cancer |
| [03:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [03:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it is horrible |
| [03:38:00] | Nodecam: | That's ok, someone else acts for her. |
| [03:38:00] | Nodecam: | or so I've heard. |
| [03:38:00] | leOn: | does one NEED to run mythfilldatabase --manual ? |
| [03:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok, i take that back, shes not the good thign in the movie, her tits are.. |
| [03:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah, like I'd watch her for her acting skills or her brains :) |
| [03:38:00] | JonK: | shouldn't |
| [03:39:00] | leOn: | the channel grabbing script keeps complaining about "no programmes found" |
| [03:40:00] | leOn: | god .. why can't providers just give xml with the stuff in it |
| [03:40:00] | mchou: | JohnnyQuest: did you like "batman begins?" |
| [03:41:00] | JonK: | using zap2it? or are you outside north america? (is zap2it only north america?) |
| [03:41:00] | AggiEmpeg: | anyone know if lirc supports the PVR150 IR blaster? |
| [03:41:00] | mchou: | leOn: what are you talking about. They do. |
| [03:42:00] | mchou: | AggiEmpeg: it supports the receiver but not the blaster, afaik. |
| [03:42:00] | AggiEmpeg: | mchou: yeah, that's what I'm finding |
| [03:43:00] | leOn: | damn this .. i'll have to enter info manually for 40+ channels ? |
| [03:43:00] | jemarcks_: | mchou, howdy |
| [03:43:00] | leOn: | wtf..? |
| [03:43:00] | mchou: | hi jemarcks_ |
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| [03:43:00] | JonK: | why bother? do you watch anything other then spice? |
| [03:43:00] | leOn: | who cares about the channel name!? |
| [03:43:00] | jemarcks_: | mchou, 'sup? |
| [03:43:00] | mchou: | not much. |
| [03:43:00] | AggiEmpeg: | I wanted so badly to use the ir blaster... oh well. |
| [03:43:00] | mchou: | leOn: huh??? |
| [03:43:00] | AggiEmpeg: | Can anyone recommend a good transmitter? |
| [03:44:00] | mchou: | AggiEmpeg: lirc.org :) |
| [03:44:00] | leOn: | mchou: i had to run mythfilldatabase --manual |
| [03:44:00] | mchou: | roll your own. |
| [03:44:00] | jemarcks_: | Anybody have a nice DVD burning flow script? |
| [03:44:00] | leOn: | i take not everybody else has to do so.. |
| [03:44:00] | mchou: | leOn: where you live? |
| [03:44:00] | leOn: | portugal |
| [03:44:00] | AggiEmpeg: | mchou: if I had the time, I'd write in support for the ir blaster |
| [03:44:00] | AggiEmpeg: | ;) |
| [03:44:00] | mchou: | leOn: dunno about portugal. |
| [03:45:00] | leOn: | there is a tv_grab_pt, but it's broke if you ask me... |
| [03:45:00] | mchou: | leOn: could be. but you using latest ver of xmltv? |
| [03:46:00] | leOn: | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| [03:46:00] | leOn: | xmltv is already the newest version. |
| [03:46:00] | leOn: | at least on debian unstable |
| [03:46:00] | JonK: | i say again... patent examiner == idiot |
| [03:46:00] | jemarcks_: | does anybody burn dvds? What tool do you use? |
| [03:46:00] | JonK: | blank dvd's and a dvd burner |
| [03:47:00] | briand: | former patent examiner != idiot |
| [03:47:00] | mchou: | JonK: you mean the US govt? |
| [03:47:00] | JonK: | some dont, but man |
| [03:47:00] | Nodecam: | I use mythtvburndvd |
| [03:47:00] | Nodecam: | doesn't work super well though. |
| [03:47:00] | JonK: | and i know it also has a lot to do with lack of time to properly review a case, but sometimes |
| [03:47:00] | jemarcks_: | so i noticed |
| [03:47:00] | JonK: | i get way frustrated |
| [03:47:00] | JonK: | don't take personally |
| [03:47:00] | sphing: | anyone know any software to convert dvd's to avi.. i'm trying to make a powerhour dvd |
| [03:47:00] | mchou: | JonK: sound like you in wrong line of work :) |
| [03:48:00] | JonK: | not at all, anything you do has it's low points |
| [03:48:00] | jemarcks_: | sphing, i am trying to get any2vob.sh to work... you might try it |
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| [03:48:00] | sphing: | cool t hanks |
| [03:48:00] | hadees: | all you MythTV users need to read this story about the broadcast flag, http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000073047473/ |
| [03:48:00] | hadees: | they are trying to sneak it in |
| [03:48:00] | mchou: | hadees: dude, you're too late |
| [03:48:00] | iggy: | yes, we've all seen it |
| [03:49:00] | iggy: | it's been cross posted on every list imagineable |
| [03:49:00] | mchou: | I wrote both my senators already last night. |
| [03:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | mchou, i liked batman begins |
| [03:49:00] | mchou: | hopefully it did some good. |
| [03:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i thought it was much better than recent super hero movies |
| [03:49:00] | hadees: | mchou, not to late because i want to make sure they don't do this crap |
| [03:49:00] | hadees: | again, i am more pissed about the sneaking it in |
| [03:49:00] | hadees: | i hate that |
| [03:50:00] | iggy: | I should have saved what I wrote |
| [03:50:00] | iggy: | it was one of my rare moments of clarity |
| [03:50:00] | mchou: | hadees: that's how laws get passed in Congress. Get used to it. |
| [03:50:00] | hadees: | mchou, thats one way they get passed |
| [03:50:00] | hadees: | mchou, i wish someone would sneak one in making it illegal |
| [03:50:00] | mchou: | I saved mine. Wanna see mine? |
| [03:51:00] | mchou: | It's got some choice phrases...... |
| [03:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | what is the broadcast flag? |
| [03:53:00] | mchou: | see mine here: http://pastebin.ca/15465 |
| [03:53:00] | iggy: | OMG, I'm down to 194G avail.... better start deleting |
| [03:53:00] | hadees: | iggy, out of how much |
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| [03:53:00] | iggy: | /dev/md/2 569G 376G 194G 67% /stuff |
| [03:53:00] | hadees: | i got about 500G left out of 1 terabyte |
| [03:53:00] | hadees: | but thats not for mythtv |
| [03:54:00] | hadees: | i have about 600 for mythtv |
| [03:54:00] | hadees: | 600G |
| [03:54:00] | iggy: | yay, I keep porn on that drive too |
| [03:54:00] | jemarcks_: | lol |
| [03:54:00] | leOn: | iggy: ever tried lvm ? |
| [03:54:00] | hadees: | iggy, how about writting some stuff for mythtvideo to orginize porn better |
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| [03:54:00] | iggy: | leOn: I'm already using raid5, lvm offers nothing but headaches |
| [03:55:00] | mchou: | iggy: what headaches? |
| [03:55:00] | kormoc: | yeah, lvm over different raids? nasty |
| [03:55:00] | iggy: | hadees: mine is organized just fine |
| [03:55:00] | ** leOn uses lvm plently ** | |
| [03:55:00] | iggy: | I just don't need it |
| [03:55:00] | hadees: | i like evms |
| [03:55:00] | iggy: | so no reason to complicate an already complicated system |
| [03:55:00] | hadees: | but i am just using hardware raid5 |
| [03:55:00] | hadees: | evms really is for software |
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| [03:56:00] | iggy: | I never did write up my "how to expand a raid5 set without losing all your porn" guide |
| [03:56:00] | ** leOn likes lvm over raid5 ** | |
| [03:56:00] | hadees: | iggy, first wash your hands, next... |
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| [03:56:00] | mchou: | haha! |
| [03:57:00] | ** briand snickers. ** | |
| [03:57:00] | iggy: | leOn: is the lvm just for s&g's or does it serve some purpose? |
| [03:57:00] | mchou: | 2. dont get distrcted while "expanding" |
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| [03:57:00] | mchou: | distracted* |
| [03:57:00] | leOn: | why am i getting prompted about channel numbers and finetune .. ? |
| [03:57:00] | iggy: | mchou: unfortunately, it's an offline process, so I was without porn for 8 hours |
| [03:57:00] | mchou: | iggy: say it aint so :) |
| [03:58:00] | iggy: | it was horrible |
| [03:58:00] | leOn: | iggy: i like it for the simplicity of extending the filesystem |
| [03:58:00] | iggy: | I started getting the shakes and stuff |
| [03:58:00] | ** leOn is fscked ** | |
| [03:58:00] | mchou: | iggy: with lvm it would have been a snap :) |
| [03:59:00] | iggy: | leOn: what? append a drive on to the end of the raid5... seems utterly pointless |
| [03:59:00] | hadees: | mchou, adding to my 3ware raid 5 card is a snap |
| [03:59:00] | iggy: | mchou: no it wouldn't, I'd have had to bought 3 more drives and lost the size of 2 total |
| [03:59:00] | leOn: | iggy: why not adding another raid5 to the end of that raid5 ? |
| [03:59:00] | leOn: | =) |
| [03:59:00] | iggy: | because I have limited space |
| [03:59:00] | briand: | iggy: is your mythtv set up so that you need to keep feeding it a dollar every couple minutes or the output goes black? |
| [03:59:00] | mchou: | iggy: 5 minutes + maybe a reboot and you are done. |
| [04:00:00] | hadees: | briand, dollar? try a nickel |
| [04:00:00] | briand: | heheh |
| [04:00:00] | iggy: | mchou: you don't understand |
| [04:00:00] | mchou: | briand: yeah, no doubt :) |
| [04:00:00] | JonK: | brilliant, absolutely brilliant |
| [04:00:00] | hadees: | who is the one with the wife who is a cook and is working on his own recipe software? |
| [04:01:00] | leOn: | iggy: i really don't use lvm at home |
| [04:01:00] | leOn: | =) |
| [04:01:00] | hadees: | because if the maker of mythrecipie doesn't want to combine the projects i would like to give it a shot |
| [04:01:00] | mchou: | lvm is da bomb! |
| [04:01:00] | iggy: | lvm has its uses, just not in my mythbox |
| [04:01:00] | leOn: | the most powerfull machine i have here is this 1.5 centrino laptop |
| [04:01:00] | briand: | I've got lvm set up on this machine, but not on my myth box... |
| [04:01:00] | leOn: | =) |
| [04:01:00] | mchou: | hmm, mythrecipe and mythpr0n, a winning combo |
| [04:01:00] | JonK: | as to both, always wash your hands |
| [04:02:00] | hadees: | mchou, if you have a food fetish |
| [04:02:00] | mchou: | hadees: who doesnt? |
| [04:02:00] | briand: | reason: my myth box is a pundit... only room for one physical drive. however... when I build up a fileserver, it'll have lvm support... and myth will access via NFS. :) |
| [04:02:00] | ** leOn starts to despair ** | |
| [04:02:00] | leOn: | briand: try smbfs |
| [04:03:00] | leOn: | nfs sucks big time |
| [04:03:00] | mchou: | leOn: huh???? |
| [04:03:00] | briand: | yeah? smbfs is to access windows drives, I thought |
| [04:03:00] | mchou: | what kind of BS you sprouting? |
| [04:03:00] | hadees: | i mean we are joking about mythP0rn but anyone using the control levels meant for parents to hide stuff you shouldn't be showing to everyone? i mean i don't just have porn, i got some stuff on growing weed (for educational use only) |
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| [04:04:00] | hadees: | i haven't tried it yet my self so i would like to know if it works well |
| [04:04:00] | leOn: | briand: smbfs is just a network fs like nfs |
| [04:04:00] | JonK: | the weed is for educational use only? |
| [04:04:00] | leOn: | briand: just set up a samba server |
| [04:04:00] | hadees: | JonK, you joke but i was a cop once and they had it for us to smell |
| [04:04:00] | leOn: | mchou: i highly dislike nfs |
| [04:04:00] | mchou: | leOn: lol. That's unnecessary in a unix-only environement. |
| [04:04:00] | leOn: | but that's just me |
| [04:04:00] | JonK: | the video? |
| [04:05:00] | briand: | well, I have a dual 450MHz Celeron motherboard with 8 IDE channels built in... that's 16 drives on one box. ;) |
| [04:05:00] | hadees: | JonK, weed, the videos i have on growing it they didn't |
| [04:05:00] | JonK: | and hmmm lets reiveiw |
| [04:05:00] | mchou: | briand: nice! |
| [04:05:00] | leOn: | mchou: i know about nfs, it's pros and cons |
| [04:05:00] | JonK: | (1) hadees was a cop |
| [04:05:00] | briand: | lessee.. 400G x 16 = nice mythtv storage space. |
| [04:05:00] | stang: | Hey guys, it looks like i'm about to go buy a wintv-pvr-150mce since it has the fm radio feature, but not having the remote is a big drawback. Is it possible to just buy a haupp. remote/receiver for these things @ a reasonable price? |
| [04:05:00] | JonK: | (2) hadees was given weed "to smell" |
| [04:05:00] | hadees: | JonK, a seasonal cop |
| [04:05:00] | JonK: | (3) refer to (1) hades was a cop |
| [04:05:00] | briand: | mchou: would you believe they were "throwing it out" at work? heheheh. the price was right... |
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| [04:06:00] | mchou: | stang: you can use any remote that lirc supports. |
| [04:06:00] | briand: | now, if I can get 'em to "throw out" a dozen or so 400G drives... |
| [04:06:00] | hadees: | JonK, i have a degree in criminal justice so i wanted to see how it was to be a cop, i did it for the summer |
| [04:06:00] | mchou: | briand: you need to get me one then :) |
| [04:06:00] | Esotericisms: | if I have recorded a program and it has auto-expire flagged how can I unflag it so it doesn't get deleted? |
| [04:06:00] | stang: | mchou, thanks for the help, makes me feel alot better about buying the mce |
| [04:06:00] | leOn: | the 150 is the one without hw mpeg encoder, right ? |
| [04:06:00] | JonK: | hadees just throwingt some sass at you |
| [04:07:00] | briand: | hadees: where did you do that? |
| [04:07:00] | mchou: | hadees: what do you do for a living? |
| [04:07:00] | leOn: | briand: dual celeron board .. ? |
| [04:08:00] | hadees: | briand, Rehoboth Beach, Delaware |
| [04:08:00] | leOn: | maybe dual PII ... ? |
| [04:08:00] | briand: | fun fun fun. |
| [04:08:00] | stang: | leOn, according to haupp., it has the mpeg-2 encoder |
| [04:08:00] | briand: | I enrolled in the academy "for fun" a few years ago.. graduated in '01 |
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| [04:08:00] | briand: | kept pace with all the sassy 20-somethings, so I proved something to myself, I guess. |
| [04:08:00] | stang: | leOn, no decoder, however |
| [04:08:00] | mchou: | briand: what academy? Quantico? :) |
| [04:09:00] | briand: | certified in FL, but not sworn. |
| [04:09:00] | JonK: | i love sassy 20 somethings |
| [04:09:00] | leOn: | stang: i have a pvr-250, no decoder either |
| [04:09:00] | briand: | sworn AT, at times. |
| [04:09:00] | briand: | ;) |
| [04:09:00] | hadees: | mchou, i am a computer programmer |
| [04:09:00] | briand: | so am I |
| [04:09:00] | briand: | ;) |
| [04:09:00] | JonK: | I used to be |
| [04:09:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i am not |
| [04:09:00] | briand: | and a radio engineer |
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| [04:09:00] | mchou: | hadees: hah, with a degree in criminal justice :) |
| [04:09:00] | JonK: | now i just play one on tv |
| [04:09:00] | briand: | and a satellite technician |
| [04:09:00] | hadees: | briand, whole lot of fun being sprayed in the face with pepper spray |
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| [04:10:00] | stang: | leOn, The 150 is supposed to be a low cost replacement for the 250, supposedly w/ no degredation of video quality |
| [04:10:00] | hadees: | mchou, yup |
| [04:10:00] | briand: | oh, yes. I set a new record for "longest snot string", I'm told. |
| [04:10:00] | JonK: | hades that's why i can't own a taser, eventually i'd tase my friends, myself, my cats... |
| [04:10:00] | JohnnyQuest: | the 150 has wonderful video/audio quality |
| [04:10:00] | JonK: | it'd get ugly |
| [04:10:00] | mchou: | hadees: you programming "Jailbreak?" |
| [04:10:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and its very stable so far for me in mythtv |
| [04:10:00] | briand: | all i remember of it is that it felt like someone was holding a blowtorch to my forehead/eyes. |
| [04:10:00] | hadees: | mchou, i might go back to school for computer forensics |
| [04:10:00] | stang: | JohnnyQuest, so the support for the 150 in mythtv is good? |
| [04:10:00] | JohnnyQuest: | seems to be |
| [04:10:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im brand new to linux.. |
| [04:10:00] | hadees: | mchou, hehe nope mailing list software |
| [04:10:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and i got it running |
| [04:10:00] | mchou: | hadees: they have a school for that? |
| [04:11:00] | stang: | JohnnyQuest, are you using the knoppmyth distro? |
| [04:11:00] | JohnnyQuest: | no |
| [04:11:00] | JohnnyQuest: | fc3 |
| [04:11:00] | hadees: | mchou, they have grad degrees in it |
| [04:11:00] | jemarcks_: | johnnyquest, i have a 150 too... its great! |
| [04:11:00] | JohnnyQuest: | yes it is great |
| [04:11:00] | mchou: | hadees: lol. |
| [04:11:00] | JohnnyQuest: | especially for the price |
| [04:12:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i paid 100, overpaid but that was cuz i could return it easily and it wa slocal |
| [04:12:00] | hadees: | mchou, its neat but i would most likely have to never pirate anything ever again |
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| [04:12:00] | briand: | JohnnyQuest: i have FC3 with a PVR-350... and just re-acquainting myself with *nix OS |
| [04:12:00] | JonK: | I have 2 500's so technically, I have 4 150's? |
| [04:12:00] | hadees: | mchou, don't know if i could do that |
| [04:12:00] | jemarcks_: | but.... i never could get svideo input to work. :( |
| [04:12:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol, nice jonk |
| [04:12:00] | JonK: | although I can only get 3 tuners to modprobe correctly |
| [04:12:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and woh needs to watch that much tv? |
| [04:12:00] | JonK: | spcie1 spice2 playboy, hot |
| [04:12:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [04:12:00] | hadees: | JohnnyQuest, i have that many, i record alot more then i watch, i like having alot of options |
| [04:12:00] | mchou: | JonK: you watch way too much TV :) |
| [04:12:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i dont watch much tv at all |
| [04:13:00] | stang: | JonK, so it would be an even trade for you if I bought a 150 and traded you for one of your 500's? :-) |
| [04:13:00] | briand: | JonK: are you doing any "intermediate processing" on those streams prior to writing to HD? |
| [04:13:00] | JonK: | it's the 350 that messes up the 500 |
| [04:13:00] | JonK: | i don;t know why |
| [04:13:00] | leOn: | "your grabber does not provide channel numbers" .. so what is the fscking point of having the grabber!? |
| [04:13:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i made my pvr so that i can record a few things at college when my roomates are watching tv |
| [04:13:00] | stang: | JonK, since you can only modprob 3 tuners @ once |
| [04:13:00] | briand: | such as, say, inserting a 15.7kHz pulse? |
| [04:13:00] | JonK: | god knows what will happen with the hd3000 i ordreed today |
| [04:13:00] | leOn: | sometimes i wonder if people do know what they're doing .. |
| [04:13:00] | hadees: | JonK, hehe i ordered two air2pc cards |
| [04:14:00] | JonK: | sweet |
| [04:14:00] | JonK: | new versions? |
| [04:14:00] | JonK: | do i want the air2pc over the hd3000? |
| [04:14:00] | leOn: | sh*t |
| [04:14:00] | JohnnyQuest: | you all have too much money |
| [04:14:00] | hadees: | JonK, yeah, one i am going to put in my parents house |
| [04:14:00] | mchou: | hadees: when does it ship? (a2pc) |
| [04:14:00] | hadees: | JonK, so i can watch the Redskins |
| [04:14:00] | hadees: | mchou, no clue, still waiting |
| [04:14:00] | JonK: | you need to finish that sentence: inevitably lose |
| [04:14:00] | hadees: | mchou, i need to look into that, i haven't been to the site in a while |
| [04:15:00] | JonK: | you could even flair it up with ", as much as it pains me to do so" |
| [04:17:00] | leOn: | wish i could run xawtv here .. |
| [04:17:00] | leOn: | =( |
| [04:17:00] | leOn: | i'm really fscked... |
| [04:17:00] | leOn: | hmmm.. maybe getting a xawtv file from some guy |
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| [04:19:00] | larrydag: | hello. i could use some LVM assistance please. when i try to umount /dev/vg/myth (my volume group) i get "/myth |
| [04:19:00] | kormoc: | anyone ever seen anything like this? |
| [04:19:00] | kormoc: | bttv0: OCERR @ 35c8f014,bits: HSYNC OFLOW OCERR* |
| [04:19:00] | larrydag: | "device is busy" |
| [04:19:00] | larrydag: | oops. skipped a line |
| [04:20:00] | kormoc: | larrydag, stop mythbackend and frontend? |
| [04:20:00] | hadees: | larrydag, you should try #lvm |
| [04:20:00] | larrydag: | ok thanks hadees |
| [04:20:00] | mchou: | kormoc: nforce2 mobo? |
| [04:20:00] | larrydag: | thanks kormoc |
| [04:21:00] | kormoc: | mchou, no |
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| [04:22:00] | kormoc: | mchou, intel 875 |
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| [04:25:00] | leOn: | one can use the xawtv channel list to configure mythtv, right ? |
| [04:26:00] | kormoc: | don't think so? |
| [04:28:00] | leOn: | tilde:~# mythfilldatabase --help| grep xaw |
| [04:28:00] | leOn: | --xawchannels <sourceid> <xawtvrcfile> |
| [04:28:00] | leOn: | Read channels as defined in xawtvrc file given |
| [04:28:00] | leOn: | <xawtvrcfile> = file to read |
| [04:29:00] | leOn: | looks like yes =) |
| [04:29:00] | kormoc: | anyone know how I could force my bttv card to a different interrupt? |
| [04:29:00] | kormoc: | huh, I didn't know you could do that leOn. |
| [04:29:00] | leOn: | kormoc: change slot |
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| [04:30:00] | mchou: | JonK: what CPU you have again? |
| [04:32:00] | JonK: | sorry was workign... |
| [04:32:00] | JonK: | have an athlon xp 2200 in the backend |
| [04:32:00] | JonK: | and an 2.4 p4 in the frontend |
| [04:32:00] | mchou: | OK. |
| [04:33:00] | mchou: | what video card you got in frontend? |
| [04:33:00] | kormoc: | leOn, it appears as if every single pci card in my box is sharing the same irq |
| [04:33:00] | kormoc: | leOn, 17: 130344056 0 IO-APIC-level Intel ICH5, bttv0, btaudio, nvidia, 3w-xxxx, uhci_hcd:usb4, eth0, uhci_hcd:usb3, ehci_hcd:usb1, uhci_hcd:usb2, uhci_hcd:usb5 |
| [04:33:00] | JonK: | fx5200 |
| [04:34:00] | JonK: | and using the pvr350 out for the frontend process running on the backend |
| [04:34:00] | mchou: | JonK: dont think you can use 350 for HDTV output, can you? |
| [04:35:00] | JonK: | main computer computer is a p4 3.2 ht |
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| [04:35:00] | JonK: | in a shuttle case that i swear is as loud as the garbage disposal |
| [04:35:00] | mchou: | haha! |
| [04:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [04:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | change the fans? |
| [04:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and heatsinks? |
| [04:36:00] | mchou: | should have gotten a64. less power and quieter. |
| [04:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i have an a64 |
| [04:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i like it |
| [04:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | my computer is pretty quiet |
| [04:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | unless i turn up the fans |
| [04:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but, i keep them low and my processor stays around 36 celcius |
| [04:36:00] | mchou: | p4s dissapates lots fo heat. |
| [04:37:00] | mchou: | of* |
| [04:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i hvea a massive heatsink on my processor tho.. |
| [04:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | 6 heatpipes |
| [04:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i think its 95mm tall.. |
| [04:37:00] | JonK: | long story: short version: have a FIC ice cube for pentium — first processor I bough didn't work, thought it must be the case so bought a shuttle sb75s still didnt work, so bought a new processor (the 3.2 HT P4) it worked |
| [04:37:00] | mchou: | JohnnyQuest: on A64?? Completely unnecessary. |
| [04:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | has an 80 mm fan on the side of it |
| [04:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | no |
| [04:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i overclock it |
| [04:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its a 3200 running at 2.4 ghz |
| [04:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | supposed to run at 2 ghz |
| [04:38:00] | mchou: | huh??? |
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| [04:38:00] | mchou: | that's not a64. |
| [04:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its running faster than its supposed to |
| [04:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | yes it is |
| [04:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | athlon 64? |
| [04:38:00] | mchou: | maybe a sempron. not a 64. |
| [04:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | yes it is |
| [04:39:00] | JohnnyQuest: | 3200 socket 939 |
| [04:39:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it runs at 2.0 ghz stock |
| [04:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | http://www.directron.com/ada3200bibox.html |
| [04:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | thers a link showing it |
| [04:41:00] | JohnnyQuest: | did everyone leave? |
| [04:42:00] | johnboy: | GreyFoxx, whats up? |
| [04:42:00] | JonK: | mchou: you started this with askign what processor in a backend, why the question? |
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| [04:46:00] | mchou: | JonK: just making sure you had enough juice to play HDTV :) |
| [04:46:00] | JonK: | if i need more it's a "throw money at it |
| [04:46:00] | JonK: | " problem |
| [04:46:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [04:46:00] | JohnnyQuest: | all problems are a throw money at them problem |
| [04:46:00] | JonK: | I know how to solve those |
| [04:46:00] | JohnnyQuest: | with enough of it, its not a problem anymore |
| [04:47:00] | briand: | not all problems willingly subside with the application of money. |
| [04:47:00] | JonK: | no, you're wrong version of ivtv firmware was not |
| [04:47:00] | JonK: | you had to track int down |
| [04:47:00] | JonK: | and fix it |
| [04:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | with enough money |
| [04:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | someone could hvae done ti for me |
| [04:48:00] | iggy: | I would |
| [04:48:00] | mchou: | JonK: if we paid conexant ahd hauppauge to release specs thos problems wouldnt have been there in the first place :) |
| [04:48:00] | mchou: | and* |
| [04:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but id ont have enough money... |
| [04:48:00] | JonK: | yes, and you could hire engineers to write code.... |
| [04:48:00] | briand: | JohnnyQuest: if you're going that route, just buy a Tivo and be done with it. |
| [04:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | so i cant solve my problems with throwing money at them |
| [04:48:00] | JonK: | i have a tivo |
| [04:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but a tivo doesnt play my music |
| [04:49:00] | JonK: | i thought i'd solve the throw $13 a month at tivo by starting to play iwth mythtv |
| [04:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i use my mythbox for a stereo too |
| [04:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [04:49:00] | mchou: | JonK: haha, collosal mistake. |
| [04:49:00] | JonK: | i've paid for the lifetime subscription twice over |
| [04:49:00] | briand: | JonK: that was a side-benefit for me. I don't have a home wired telephone. so a Tivo would have cost me an extra $50 per month or so |
| [04:49:00] | mchou: | penny wise, pound foolish :) |
| [04:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | anyone have any ideas why a program called emule causes my whole network not to stay connecting to the internet for aim and irc? |
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| [04:50:00] | JonK: | briand:? i've hacked the tivo to include network access and large drive |
| [04:50:00] | briand: | but you still have to subscribe for the sked, no? |
| [04:50:00] | JonK: | it has a webserver running on it |
| [04:50:00] | JonK: | yes |
| [04:50:00] | mchou: | tivo is now ofeering free tivos if you pay for lifetime sub. |
| [04:50:00] | JonK: | I wouldn't steal service from tivo |
| [04:51:00] | mchou: | offering* |
| [04:51:00] | JonK: | apple should buy tivo |
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| [04:51:00] | mchou: | good lord no. |
| [04:51:00] | JonK: | oh yes |
| [04:51:00] | briand: | well, if I'm gonna do hacking, why not hack together a better system for less money, rather than buy a something less (Tivo) and try to make it work |
| [04:51:00] | JonK: | im holding onto my tivo stock in hopes that this happens |
| [04:52:00] | mchou: | JonK: haha. Keep on dreaming. |
| [04:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | news on cnn ticker tomorrow |
| [04:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | apple buys tivo |
| [04:52:00] | johnboy: | anyone here use the media MVP? |
| [04:52:00] | briand: | I spent less than 400 for the hardware for my mythtv setup — Asus Pundit, 2.4GHz Prescott, 512MB, 300G drive, PVR-350. |
| [04:52:00] | mchou: | JonK: I'm sorry, I just dont see that happening anytime soon. |
| [04:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i spent 110 on my mythbox |
| [04:53:00] | mchou: | lol, a pvr 350 costs around 150 at least...... |
| [04:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | pvr150, geforce 2 |
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| [04:53:00] | leOn: | just got a freqs.conf file from a mythtv-pt user |
| [04:53:00] | leOn: | how can i import that ? |
| [04:53:00] | mchou: | so I doubt if you spent only $400..... |
| [04:53:00] | JonK: | with the pile of cash apple has — and the branding, marketing, and design they could through it would be a great combo, plus the IP tivo has (both from the strangeberry acquisition, and a purchase of patents from IBM) it would be fanstastic |
| [04:54:00] | JohnnyQuest: | the rest of what i used was an old comptuer |
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| [04:54:00] | JonK: | apple could f with mircosoft and MCE for years |
| [04:54:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i also have an old pentium 3 733 |
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| [04:54:00] | psm321: | hi |
| [04:54:00] | mchou: | JonK: foget about it! |
| [04:54:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i thikn i want to try turning that into a front end |
| [04:54:00] | briand: | true, mchou. plus: 109 for case/mobo, 38 for ram, 47 for DVD-R, 56 for the processor, 109 for the 300G drive |
| [04:54:00] | psm321: | can someone tell me where the setting is that controls min free disk space for new recordings? |
| [04:55:00] | briand: | psm321: in the mythbackend setup |
| [04:56:00] | JohnnyQuest: | someone needs to make a mythpr0n plugin |
| [04:56:00] | mchou: | briand: 109 for 300GB drive? where did you get that deal? |
| [04:56:00] | JonK: | plus, it's really the only way tivo may be able to survive... they'll never survive selling boxes, they either need to do somethign drastic, or finally get some could licensing deals worked out with the cablecos |
| [04:56:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i saw a deal for a 300gb like that the toher day |
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| [04:56:00] | briand: | mchou: newegg.com |
| [04:57:00] | mchou: | JonK: so why would apple wanna bail tivo out? |
| [04:57:00] | leOn: | hmmm .. how can i enable the "scan for channels" option in mythtv-setup ? |
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| [04:57:00] | mchou: | I've not seen deal for >250GB drive for less than $0.35/GB..... |
| [04:58:00] | psm321: | scratch that... how does it figure out how large a program will be, and how do i disable that? |
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| [04:58:00] | briand: | mchou: short-time deal near the end of last month, I think. I saw it when I logged on there to get the processor, DVD burner, and RAM. Couldn't resist the offer. ;) |
| [04:58:00] | mchou: | briand: need to figure in shipping and taxes too :) |
| [04:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | damn it.... I had so many issues with my gentoo box with mythtv I nuked it and put on ubuntu now I am really sorry.... all I can say is @*%#!@# #*!@ lol |
| [04:58:00] | psm321: | with my quality recordings take ~125 megs for half hour, yet it estimates 2.7 gigs and thus doesnt record because it thinks there isnt euf free space |
| [04:58:00] | briand: | 99 cent FedEx saver shipping, per item |
| [04:59:00] | briand: | so, 3.96 for shipping. |
| [04:59:00] | psm321: | which is a big problem because my space is always low and i missed a bunch of recordings today that wouldnt have been a problem |
| [04:59:00] | briand: | arrived here from LA, Cal and Edison, NJ in two days. |
| [04:59:00] | psm321: | any ideas? |
| [04:59:00] | mchou: | briand: you got everyting in that box from newegg? |
| [04:59:00] | JonK: | IP, customer base, merge of iLife, iTunes, iPhoto, and iDVD |
| [05:00:00] | briand: | except for the PVR-350, yes. |
| [05:00:00] | mchou: | JonK: what IP does tivo have? :) |
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| [05:01:00] | mchou: | it's not like myth is violating tivo's IP :) |
| [05:01:00] | JonK: | at least: purchase of patents from IBM, acquisition of strangeberry, and a number of patents of thier own, they own the IP in their code, and in their brand |
| [05:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I just love eating IP for breakfast its so yummy although it can taste rather rubbery at times :P |
| [05:02:00] | mchou: | branding, maybe, but hardly "IP" |
| [05:02:00] | iggy: | there's actually other companies that have patents on things like on screen tv guides and things like time shifting, etc. |
| [05:02:00] | briand: | mchou: I'm thinking of picking up another 512M stick next payday... I noticed that the box is typically hovering around ~12M free memory |
| [05:02:00] | mchou: | iggy: yeah, like gemstar. :) |
| [05:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, havent you got the most recent memo? IP is a all covering branding now that allows joe fucknut to sue whoever he wants |
| [05:02:00] | briand: | i don't think it's had to swap yet, but no need to get that desperate. |
| [05:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, or at least waste taxpayers dollars to try to sue :/ |
| [05:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [05:03:00] | dhofstra: | getting internal server error when doing mythfilldatabase |
| [05:03:00] | JonK: | lol I can just picture it: Joe Fucknut v. Everyboy |
| [05:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [05:03:00] | JonK: | is that anything link Joe versus the volcano? |
| [05:03:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: I meant IP like as in patents :) |
| [05:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh yeah I know mchou |
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| [05:04:00] | dhofstra: | err, guess my subscription expired.. damn |
| [05:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it covers everything now its just retarted nothing is out of the scope of IP they have taken it beyond patents now I guess |
| [05:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou, question for ya if you have a few spare mins? |
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| [05:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I kinda made a big mistake lol and I need to figure out the best way to fix it I dont really want to spend a few days doing it if I dont have to |
| [05:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I fried out my gentoo mythtv "long story" I nuked it off put on ubuntu that was even worse cause I cant get ivtv to work at all now... I am trying to figure out a way to get my system back up and running in short order I dont really want to wait 3 days while my box compiles gentoo again :/ |
| [05:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | fc3 is my suggestion |
| [05:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I wont touch Fedora with your dick sorry |
| [05:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | can you tell I dislike it? |
| [05:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [05:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im sorry, i made a suggestion |
| [05:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it works for a mythbox.. |
| [05:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no problem I just hate fedora |
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| [05:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | put it this way last time I went to use fedora I had all the disks verified and then went to install well it said that cd 2 was not cd2 lol |
| [05:09:00] | jasoncohen: | SlicerDicer-, my debian sarge system is running great |
| [05:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | all distros suck in someones opinion :) |
| [05:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | GreyFoxx, its a fact |
| [05:09:00] | jasoncohen: | GreyFoxx, what distro do you use? |
| [05:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | jasoncohen: Slackware |
| [05:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | jasoncohen, just how hard is it to do ivtv and the lot? |
| [05:10:00] | psm321: | anybody? |
| [05:10:00] | jasoncohen: | SlicerDicer-, why do people think things are hard in debian? it's just like any other distro. you need to compile ivtv and install the firmware. it's no easier or harder than any other distro i've used |
| [05:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | does it require you to bypass everything and manually install every bit of the ivtv driver by hand cause its a stupid peice of shit.... |
| [05:10:00] | SlicerDicer-: | then half of it does not work ARGH!!! |
| [05:10:00] | jasoncohen: | every bit of the ivtv driver? |
| [05:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah the stupid driver compiled but did not install to the proper location so I had to manually change it |
| [05:11:00] | jasoncohen: | i installed ck's latest driver and experimented with firmware versions until it worked |
| [05:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it was a massive pain in the ass |
| [05:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am at the end of my ropes here |
| [05:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [05:11:00] | jasoncohen: | that usually happens when your Makefile has the wrong extraversion |
| [05:11:00] | opello: | mpeg2cut seems to be failing on a certain episode, any way to see debugging/verbose output? |
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| [05:11:00] | jasoncohen: | once i set my extraversion to -2–386 for 2.6.8-2–386 it worked fine |
| [05:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | jasoncohen, I want to strangle something! |
| [05:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [05:12:00] | jasoncohen: | and sarge is rock solid |
| [05:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah I just dont want to go through the hassle of compiling gentoo again |
| [05:12:00] | jasoncohen: | using my ati card for tv-out and i have a pvr-250 MCE + a hauppauge wintv w/ btaudio |
| [05:12:00] | SlicerDicer-: | gentoo was really simple to do mythtv just takes forever to install :/ |
| [05:12:00] | jasoncohen: | and a 450 GB LVM- everything just works now |
| [05:12:00] | jasoncohen: | SlicerDicer-, it was simple in debian too, apt-get build-dep mythtv, ./configure, make, make install |
| [05:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah but what about ivtv/ptune and firmware? |
| [05:13:00] | jasoncohen: | if something is missing apt-file search filename and it'll give you the packagename |
| [05:13:00] | johnboy: | AWESOME! it works! |
| [05:13:00] | fatmatt: | I should get my acto together and set up lvm |
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| [05:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | johnb: ? |
| [05:14:00] | jasoncohen: | SlicerDicer-, i tried 3 firmware versions until i got one to work properly |
| [05:14:00] | jasoncohen: | ivtv wouldn't start correctly until i got one that worked |
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| [05:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | jasoncohen, what about the install though? |
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| [05:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | is there clear cut distructions on how to do it or am I going to have to pick apart how to do it from 50 forum posts? |
| [05:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've always found the ivtv install to be as simple as "cd driver; make; make install; cd ../utils; make; make install" |
| [05:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | Then a manual copy of the firmware to /lib/modules |
| [05:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I must just be doing something stupidly wrong then |
| [05:16:00] | kormoc: | okay guys |
| [05:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hi kormoc |
| [05:16:00] | kormoc: | http://www.kormoc.com/screenshot.jpg |
| [05:16:00] | kormoc: | what do you think could cause that? |
| [05:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I killed my gentoo mythtv :/ |
| [05:16:00] | kormoc: | hihi slicer! |
| [05:16:00] | kormoc: | ooh? |
| [05:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeh I want to stab something |
| [05:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kormoc, I saw that with my cable box |
| [05:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I cleared it up by using s-video |
| [05:16:00] | kormoc: | figure out what caused it? |
| [05:17:00] | ** kormoc frowns ** | |
| [05:17:00] | kormoc: | I don't have a cablebox |
| [05:17:00] | jasoncohen: | SlicerDicer-, of ivtv? |
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| [05:17:00] | jasoncohen: | SlicerDicer-, make, make install? |
| [05:17:00] | jasoncohen: | the install isn't the problem |
| [05:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | jasoncohen, I dont know I did that on the box and nothing worked right |
| [05:17:00] | ** GreyFoxx taps his fingers while waiting for adrive to be rsync'd ** | |
| [05:17:00] | jasoncohen: | the hard part is finding the right firmware/driver combo to make it work. then you're golden |
| [05:18:00] | opello: | so, any takers? mpeg2cut from nuvexport is faililng: http://pastebin.ca/15471) |
| [05:20:00] | fatmatt: | where does nuvexport come from? I can't seem to find that package |
| [05:21:00] | jasoncohen: | SlicerDicer-, don't know what to tell you- i had to fight to get the right firmware and ivtv driver version but after that things just worked. apt-get build-dep mythtv missed some dependencies but i can give you a list of ones you need for mythtv, mythvideo, mythmusic (with all visualazations) and mythdvd (transcode support) |
| [05:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah |
| [05:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I got all that installed with synaptic |
| [05:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | just ivtv fails to work |
| [05:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | i cant get ptune to work |
| [05:21:00] | jasoncohen: | what version of ivtv are you using? |
| [05:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | everything fucks up its a giant mess I dont feel like sorting I am just going to go back to gentoo I know how to do it there lol |
| [05:22:00] | dumpus2: | mythfrontend crashing with "QPainter::begin: Cannot paint null pixmap" when watching recordings. Any ideas on this? I can play the same nuv file with mplayer no problem. |
| [05:22:00] | jasoncohen: | i used ivtv-0.2.0-r3cj |
| [05:22:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I think I was using the latest stable ivtv |
| [05:23:00] | jasoncohen: | i used this firmware – wget http://hauppauge.lightpath.net/software/pvr25 . . . _18a_inf.zip |
| [05:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | be back in a bit I got to go lay down I am just really frustrated |
| [05:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I should not have nuked my gentoo install and just repaired it |
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| [05:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats what happens when you are pissed off though |
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| [05:25:00] | jasoncohen: | SlicerDicer-, might want to look at the ivtv section of the ubuntu guide- http://mythtv.info/moin.cgi/UbuntuInstallation |
| [05:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | jasoncohen, it pissed me off cause my database went corrupt I tried to repair it blew it apart my recordings somehow went "POOF" and I hit the roof lol |
| [05:25:00] | jasoncohen: | SlicerDicer-, that's why i run daily db backups + backups of /home and /etc |
| [05:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thank you for that jasoncohen on the guide |
| [05:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | would have really came in handy heh |
| [05:26:00] | jasoncohen: | np- good luck |
| [05:26:00] | jasoncohen: | SlicerDicer-, don't give up |
| [05:27:00] | jasoncohen: | i was really frustrated after using ubuntu |
| [05:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | jasoncohen, this box is ubuntu it works great |
| [05:27:00] | jasoncohen: | and then i installed sarge. i was pissed about the ivtv weirdness but after that everything works |
| [05:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | kubuntu actually |
| [05:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have my reasons for using this box but no justified reason for my otehrs |
| [05:27:00] | jasoncohen: | ubuntu trashed my mdk install – kernel panics on all kernels on my desktop and the sound didn't work on my laptop properly |
| [05:28:00] | jasoncohen: | i'm using debian sid with gnome 2.10 + kde 3.3.2 and i'm quite happy |
| [05:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well my mythtv box is in the other room I got to go there and do some work once I get x-chat on I will pop back in and let you know how things are going |
| [05:28:00] | jasoncohen: | ok, good luck |
| [05:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | any special partition type you would reccomend? cause I am going to just start over |
| [05:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I was thinking ext3 but feel free to advise a different |
| [05:28:00] | jasoncohen: | SlicerDicer-, for large videos? |
| [05:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | aye |
| [05:29:00] | jasoncohen: | i use XFS + LVM2 |
| [05:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | good deal |
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| [05:29:00] | jasoncohen: | XFS is fast at large deletes |
| [05:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | alright cya in a few |
| [05:29:00] | jasoncohen: | and it's supposed to be pretty stable- not as good as ext3 but much better performance with big files |
| [05:30:00] | jasoncohen: | also you can't shrink XFS- only enlarge- but i use it with LVM so that's not really a problem- i can just add a new drive and remove the old small one |
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| [05:47:00] | mchou: | slicer, sorry, was afk |
| [05:48:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: you reinstallinf system? |
| [05:48:00] | mchou: | reinstalling* |
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| [05:53:00] | feef: | i'm using a bt848 based card and i was wondering if it's possible to get the same brightness and saturation controls passed to the live tv recorder as I can have when just using mplayer to watch tv |
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| [06:11:00] | Chutt: | this is just too funny |
| [06:11:00] | Chutt: | "I have an email account, <blah>@cox.net." |
| [06:12:00] | Chutt: | "I also use <blah>@<blah>.net as an alias because, well, I hate the domain name cox.net! Sounds like a male homosexual porn site to me. Not that there is anything wrong with male homosexuals, it is just that it is not for me." |
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| [06:13:00] | Christopher: | mythbackend server isn't starting. mythfilldatabase complains about the master server settings... I'm using gentoo. can anybody help? |
| [06:13:00] | SlicerDicer-: | jasoncohen, you still here? |
| [06:13:00] | Chutt: | and he goes on to ask if i can do crap for him to his subscription |
| [06:14:00] | jasoncohen: | SlicerDicer-, yup |
| [06:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | if everything went as slick as the install has gone so far with that guide you gave me you are my hero |
| [06:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | :) |
| [06:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ivtv modprobed just fine |
| [06:15:00] | jasoncohen: | Christopher, is mythbackend running (ps -ax | grep mythbackend) and did you run mythtv-setup and set the backend server ip? |
| [06:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats a feat I tell you compared to the hell from earlier |
| [06:15:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I am going back to it will let you know how it is a bit later on if your still around |
| [06:16:00] | Christopher: | JasonCohen I set it to both 192.168.0.6 and then 127.0.0.1 but it doesn't matter. |
| [06:16:00] | jasoncohen: | SlicerDicer-, awesome, glad it worked |
| [06:16:00] | Christopher: | JasonCohen: and /etc/init.d/mythbackend restart doesn't work... i have to do /etc/init.d/mythbackend zap and then /etc/init.d/mythbackend start |
| [06:16:00] | jasoncohen: | SlicerDicer-, ivtv is the hardest part. after that setup is usually pretty easy |
| [06:17:00] | jasoncohen: | Christopher, perhaps you should ask SlicerDicer then. he uses gentoo |
| [06:17:00] | jasoncohen: | i use debian |
| [06:17:00] | Christopher: | ty |
| [06:17:00] | jasoncohen: | np |
| [06:18:00] | Christopher: | SlicerDicer: I'm using a Hauppauge 500MCE with the IVTV 3.6p driver I just compiled... but I still haven't seen my first frames of video. ivtvctl -I says check SAA7115 input signal |
| [06:18:00] | Christopher: | ioctl: VIDEO_STATUS = Bad |
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| [07:05:00] | Christopher: | my mythtvlog says that mythbackend can't find my capture card... I have the hauppauge 150 with current ivtv drivers... can anybody help me get mythtv going? |
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| [07:39:00] | gavin: | any australian users here? |
| [07:40:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah |
| [07:42:00] | gavin: | arga: u in oz? |
| [07:42:00] | Agrajag-: | yep |
| [07:42:00] | gavin: | are you using high definition? if so, any probs? |
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| [07:43:00] | Agrajag-: | im using dvb yeah, and my signal strength isn't quite good enough for HD channels, but SD channels work great |
| [07:43:00] | gavin: | fair 'nuff. What distro? |
| [07:43:00] | Agrajag-: | debian |
| [07:43:00] | gavin: | XFS filesystem? |
| [07:44:00] | Agrajag-: | nah ext3 |
| [07:44:00] | MonMotha: | I'm using HD, though I'm in the US |
| [07:44:00] | Agrajag-: | i do get a 7 HD fine and it's great |
| [07:44:00] | MonMotha: | I don't remember if OZ is DVB or ATSC land |
| [07:44:00] | MonMotha: | DVB I believe |
| [07:44:00] | gavin: | yep |
| [07:45:00] | gavin: | I om only about 10kn from the transmitters and I am having a hard time with HD |
| [07:45:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah.. me too |
| [07:45:00] | Agrajag-: | a friend of mine is further away than me |
| [07:45:00] | Agrajag-: | and sticks a coathanger into his tuner and gets HD channels fine |
| [07:45:00] | Agrajag-: | i have an outdoor antenna on my roof :/ |
| [07:45:00] | gavin: | and he is using myth? |
| [07:46:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah |
| [07:46:00] | MonMotha: | gavin: you may be too close, actually. Most antennas used for broadcast tend not to radiate downward |
| [07:46:00] | MonMotha: | that's especially true of UHF, which is usually used for digital TV (at least in USA land) |
| [07:46:00] | Agrajag-: | ours is vhf |
| [07:47:00] | gavin: | I'll give you the scenario. I am in a block of units using a shared ant. HD is blocky. I am thinking of trying an indoors ant. |
| [07:47:00] | gavin: | except SBS |
| [07:47:00] | gavin: | I think |
| [07:47:00] | Agrajag-: | as in your get SBS HD fine? |
| [07:47:00] | Agrajag-: | you gotta check that they're actually broadcasting HD |
| [07:47:00] | gavin: | no sorry. SBS is UHF isnt it |
| [07:47:00] | Agrajag-: | oh yeah |
| [07:48:00] | Agrajag-: | because our stations are only required to do 80hours week of HD |
| [07:48:00] | gavin: | is that all!!!! buggers! |
| [07:48:00] | Agrajag-: | why do you want HD though? SD is pretty good |
| [07:48:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah but by 2007 everything has to be HD |
| [07:48:00] | fatmatt: | hmm, this is weird, I can play .nuv files recorded by my dvb card in mplayer fine, but the ones from the analoge card only play in mythfrontend |
| [07:48:00] | gavin: | SD is cool (and less HDD space I am sure) but it would be nice..... |
| [07:48:00] | kormoc: | fatmatt, what's the analog card? |
| [07:49:00] | Agrajag-: | fatmatt: are you transcoding? |
| [07:49:00] | fatmatt: | old old bt878 one, bought it so long ago I don't even remember the brand |
| [07:49:00] | fatmatt: | Agrajag-: nope |
| [07:49:00] | kormoc: | fatmatt, the analog is being recorded in myth's semi nuv format, the hd ones are likly mpeg2. that would be why |
| [07:50:00] | fatmatt: | "semi nuv" greaaat |
| [07:50:00] | kormoc: | it's nuv with some improvements that break standard nuv support |
| [07:50:00] | fatmatt: | any idea on how i can make it readable? |
| [07:50:00] | Agrajag-: | try transcoding? |
| [07:50:00] | Agrajag-: | to mpeg2 or mpeg4 |
| [07:50:00] | kormoc: | nuvexport would also work |
| [07:51:00] | fatmatt: | can't get nuvexport to compile, there aren't debs are there? btw, I don't have access to the mythbackend, I just copied the files across asuming mplayer would handle them |
| [07:51:00] | kormoc: | fatmatt, if you have it record as mpeg-4 in the settings |
| [07:51:00] | kormoc: | fatmatt, mplayer will play them |
| [07:52:00] | MonMotha: | gavin: if you're that close, an indoor ant should be fine. Probably better than a long run of coax to an antenna anyway |
| [07:52:00] | Agrajag-: | you dont need to compile nuvexport.. it's a perl script |
| [07:52:00] | gavin: | Tx MonMotha, I will try it. |
| [07:53:00] | MonMotha: | my ant is in my BASEMENT (with the server), I can pull in 5 of 7 local broadcasters with no problem |
| [07:53:00] | MonMotha: | the other two are hardly local |
| [07:53:00] | gavin: | Mon: How far? |
| [07:53:00] | MonMotha: | gavin: about 10 miles |
| [07:53:00] | MonMotha: | for the 5 I can get |
| [07:53:00] | MonMotha: | UPN is about 25 miles out and I can almost get it |
| [07:54:00] | MonMotha: | I can get data, but it drops out |
| [07:54:00] | Agrajag-: | what's this miles business |
| [07:54:00] | MonMotha: | WB (WTTK) is about 35 miles away and I can tell there's a station there |
| [07:54:00] | Agrajag-: | thought that was outdated long ago |
| [07:54:00] | Agrajag-: | :P |
| [07:54:00] | MonMotha: | Agrajag-: go ask google for the conversion factor |
| [07:54:00] | fatmatt: | kormoc: mplayer starts looking at the file, then about 10min later the swap partition fills up |
| [07:54:00] | gavin: | Agra: They are living in the past :) |
| [07:54:00] | MonMotha: | I'm much better at estimating distances in miles than kilometers |
| [07:54:00] | Agrajag-: | heheh :P |
| [07:54:00] | MonMotha: | that's just what gets used around here. I know about how long a kilometer is, but I'm much better at estimating in mils |
| [07:54:00] | MonMotha: | miles |
| [07:54:00] | gavin: | 35 Miles is quite far |
| [07:55:00] | MonMotha: | (not mils, that's totally different :) |
| [07:55:00] | kormoc: | fatmatt, I donno, mplayer plays mine fine, and I have them encoded as mpeg-4 + mp3 in the nuv container. |
| [07:55:00] | fatmatt: | Agrajag-: does nuvexport need the backend/database |
| [07:55:00] | MonMotha: | gavin: yeah, I can see that a station exists, but I can't even pull PID information |
| [07:55:00] | Agrajag-: | fatmatt: yeah |
| [07:55:00] | fatmatt: | bugger |
| [07:55:00] | MonMotha: | 8VSB also has some nasty multipath issues, so that could also be a problem, though with something that far away it shouldn't be |
| [07:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | does anybody know off hand how I can find out what IRQ my serial port is? |
| [07:57:00] | MonMotha: | SlicerDicer-: setserial may be able to tell you, or ask /proc/interrupts |
| [07:57:00] | MonMotha: | that's if linux already knows and you want to know |
| [07:57:00] | gavin: | Its about time that they had repeater on every cell tower. I'd love to have myth for my Palm smartphone :) |
| [07:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thx monkeyBox |
| [07:57:00] | MonMotha: | otherwise, ask your BIOS or something |
| [07:57:00] | MonMotha: | yea, more bad nick complete :) |
| [07:57:00] | fatmatt: | so, (and I'm not flaming here I swear) mythtv uses a format that is not easily played on other machines AND they've altered it from the standard format? lol |
| [07:58:00] | MonMotha: | gavin: there are cell networks in the world fast enough to handle SD |
| [07:58:00] | MonMotha: | Japan has them everywhere, they're in various places in the US. Europe is still mostly GSM I gather |
| [07:58:00] | MonMotha: | Korea has them everywhere |
| [07:58:00] | Agrajag-: | fatmatt: mythtv records in a way designed to be played by mythtv |
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| [07:58:00] | gavin: | They could use the EVDO network. Can you imagine the cost per kb??? WOW! |
| [07:58:00] | Agrajag-: | fatmatt: there are ways to play them in other apps |
| [07:58:00] | fatmatt: | I wonder if I can tunnel back to my mythbox at home ... |
| [07:59:00] | MonMotha: | gavin: you can get "all you can eat" EVDO plans in the US |
| [07:59:00] | MonMotha: | like $100USD/mo |
| [07:59:00] | Agrajag-: | fatmatt: i wouldn't say that it's "not easily played on other machines" because really, it is easy |
| [07:59:00] | gavin: | You guys are lucky with that. Comms in Aus have always been pricey |
| [07:59:00] | MonMotha: | gavin: true |
| [07:59:00] | MonMotha: | Europe's telecom is also outrageous from what I've gathered |
| [08:00:00] | MonMotha: | bandwidth in the USA is relatively cheap, at least anywhere but the last mile |
| [08:00:00] | fatmatt: | Agrajag-: any suggestions as to how I can convert? there's not a "use file / local" option for nuvexport is there... searches man pages |
| [08:01:00] | gavin: | Yeah. Costly here due to sparseness. EU is costly due to carrier linkage |
| [08:01:00] | MonMotha: | well, most of the US is pretty sparse too, but bandwidth is also expensive out in the sticks here |
| [08:01:00] | Agrajag-: | .au isn't all that bad |
| [08:01:00] | MonMotha: | you can only get reasonably priced bandwith in more populated areas |
| [08:01:00] | Agrajag-: | fatmatt: im trying to thikn of a way.. but without myth handy, i dont think it's possible |
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| [08:02:00] | fatmatt: | theres an nuv2avi thing written by beirdo, but.. I can't get it to compile |
| [08:02:00] | gavin: | Agra: Not bad but comparitivly not as cheap. It has improved over recent years. |
| [08:02:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah. at least my net connection is comparably quite good i reckon |
| [08:02:00] | MonMotha: | bandwidth, especially to residences, is still cheaper in Korea and Japan |
| [08:02:00] | MonMotha: | I pay ~$45/mo for 7M/768k |
| [08:03:00] | Agrajag-: | US$45? |
| [08:03:00] | MonMotha: | I saw ads in Japan for 25M/5M (I think that was the upstream) for like 2500yen/mo |
| [08:03:00] | MonMotha: | yeah, 45USD/mo |
| [08:03:00] | Agrajag-: | i pay about that for 10M/something pretty small |
| [08:04:00] | gavin: | same |
| [08:04:00] | Agrajag-: | korean government is pretty keen for everyone to have bandwidth over there.. they subsidise it heaps |
| [08:04:00] | gavin: | Even their toilets have IP addresses :P |
| [08:04:00] | Agrajag-: | heh |
| [08:05:00] | MonMotha: | I want my god damn IPv6 |
| [08:05:00] | Agrajag-: | hmm yeah that's not really taking off is it |
| [08:05:00] | MonMotha: | no, unfortunately not |
| [08:05:00] | MonMotha: | which is why I'm still behind NAT |
| [08:05:00] | Agrajag-: | i guess people have just semi-solved it with nat |
| [08:05:00] | MonMotha: | my ISP charges $10/mo for another DHCP assigned address |
| [08:05:00] | gavin: | It has stalled. I guess ipv4 is just so entrenched |
| [08:06:00] | Agrajag-: | MonMotha: yeah.. but do you realyl need one? |
| [08:06:00] | MonMotha: | the problem is that most people see NAT as a solution, not just a stop gap measure |
| [08:06:00] | gavin: | I missed what was being said about nuv2avi before |
| [08:06:00] | MonMotha: | Agrajag-: I'm getting really tired of having to unbreak things that NAT breaks |
| [08:07:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah. but it's not normally a big issue |
| [08:07:00] | gavin: | I love NAT |
| [08:07:00] | Agrajag-: | i suppose in a way it's more secure |
| [08:08:00] | gavin: | Yeah. It does have some benefits |
| [08:10:00] | gavin: | So is there a GUI to take recorded progs and stick them on a DVD? |
| [08:10:00] | Agrajag-: | hmm.. i've always just used nuvexport then q/dvdauthor |
| [08:11:00] | gavin: | No plugin? |
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| [08:14:00] | SlicerDicer--: | hey is anybody around at this time of the evening :) |
| [08:14:00] | SlicerDicer--: | mchou, or kormoc perhaps? |
| [08:14:00] | kormoc: | hihi |
| [08:14:00] | kormoc: | indeed I am Mr. Slicer |
| [08:14:00] | SlicerDicer--: | hehe |
| [08:15:00] | SlicerDicer--: | I got a question for you if you are able to answer |
| [08:15:00] | kormoc: | shoot! |
| [08:15:00] | SlicerDicer--: | I am trying to figure out why my irq is all fubar |
| [08:15:00] | ** kormoc falls over dead. ** | |
| [08:15:00] | gavin: | shoot |
| [08:15:00] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [08:15:00] | SlicerDicer--: | I am trying to setup my IR-Blaster I ordered it from irblaster.info |
| [08:15:00] | kormoc: | I had to set the irqs in my bios to fix my irq's. |
| [08:15:00] | kormoc: | yeah? |
| [08:15:00] | SlicerDicer--: | hmm ok |
| [08:15:00] | SlicerDicer--: | I may need to do that |
| [08:16:00] | SlicerDicer--: | I tried setting the IRQ myself but it bitches at me |
| [08:16:00] | SlicerDicer--: | let me get the IRQ I chose see what you think |
| [08:16:00] | kormoc: | it doesn't work? |
| [08:16:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [08:16:00] | SlicerDicer--: | 2f8/3 |
| [08:16:00] | SlicerDicer--: | hi gavin btw :) |
| [08:17:00] | kormoc: | I'd try irq 11 or 13 if I was you, they tend to be emptier. |
| [08:17:00] | SlicerDicer--: | hmm how do I set that in the bos? |
| [08:17:00] | SlicerDicer--: | bios rather |
| [08:17:00] | kormoc: | depends on the bios, a lot don't allow it at all :/ |
| [08:17:00] | SlicerDicer--: | I only have a choice of a few IRQ;s I think |
| [08:17:00] | SlicerDicer--: | so what do I do if I cant chose it myself? |
| [08:18:00] | SlicerDicer--: | attack the computer with a pencil and use graphite to bridge something? |
| [08:18:00] | SlicerDicer--: | lol |
| [08:18:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [08:18:00] | kormoc: | well, pick another one and pass it to the module if it supports? |
| [08:18:00] | SlicerDicer--: | hmm I can give it a shot I guess |
| [08:18:00] | SlicerDicer--: | its kinda annoying to reboot reboot reboot reboot blah |
| [08:19:00] | kormoc: | yeah... |
| [08:19:00] | kormoc: | I know whatcha mean |
| [08:19:00] | SlicerDicer--: | ohh well I will give it a shot I guess |
| [08:19:00] | SlicerDicer--: | what do you think about IRQ 4?> |
| [08:20:00] | SlicerDicer--: | is that a better choice or what does use IRQ 4 |
| [08:20:00] | SlicerDicer--: | cause I think I can only chose between IRQ 3 and 4 I dont know let me look I will see |
| [08:20:00] | SlicerDicer--: | brb |
| [08:20:00] | kormoc: | cat /proc/interupts |
| [08:20:00] | kormoc: | and you can see what's used where |
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| [08:20:00] | milkyflava: | hello |
| [08:20:00] | kormoc: | unless you mean the serial port irq? |
| [08:21:00] | SlicerDicer--: | well 0/1/8/9/12/14/15/18/21/22/23 are in use |
| [08:21:00] | SlicerDicer--: | yeah I am talking about serial port IRQ |
| [08:21:00] | SlicerDicer--: | this is a serial port IR Blaster |
| [08:21:00] | SlicerDicer--: | let me get you a linkage |
| [08:21:00] | kormoc: | ahh, I tend to use 3 for serial ports |
| [08:21:00] | milkyflava: | Is anyone trying to watch LiveTV and having myth say all devices are recording when nothing is recording? |
| [08:21:00] | SlicerDicer--: | http://irblaster.info/ thats what I got |
| [08:21:00] | kormoc: | milkyflava, you haven't linked up the devices right in the mythsetup likly. |
| [08:22:00] | Christopher: | milkyflava: what card are you using? |
| [08:22:00] | milkyflava: | It works perfectly all day long then at night it does what i said, would this still be a problem with linking? |
| [08:22:00] | milkyflava: | pvr350 |
| [08:22:00] | SlicerDicer--: | kormoc, i will go reset the IRQ i was trying IRQ3 with the blaster but that was not orking right |
| [08:22:00] | SlicerDicer--: | drat |
| [08:22:00] | SlicerDicer--: | argh |
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| [08:23:00] | milkyflava: | wait |
| [08:23:00] | milkyflava: | maybe myth is messin with my mind now |
| [08:24:00] | milkyflava: | after a reboot it now shows that it is recording but it definitely wasnt showing a recording before the reboot |
| [08:24:00] | milkyflava: | in Watch Recordings it now shows a show being recorded |
| [08:24:00] | kormoc: | odd |
| [08:24:00] | milkyflava: | very |
| [08:25:00] | milkyflava: | it is 18.1 |
| [08:26:00] | milkyflava: | now after stopping and deleting the show and backing back out of Watch Recordings it crashes the frontend |
| [08:26:00] | milkyflava: | is anyone seeing this or is it just me? |
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| [08:28:00] | Christopher: | milkyflava what linux distro are you running? |
| [08:29:00] | milkyflava: | FC2 |
| [08:29:00] | milkyflava: | I had to rebuild it recently so maybe I missed something, I am going to go back over everything again and see if I did |
| [08:30:00] | gavin: | Hi Slicer |
| [08:31:00] | milkyflava: | The only difference is Myth version and ivtv version, so i was asking to see if I was not alone but it seems that I am so it must be my mistake |
| [08:33:00] | gavin: | Anyone running xmame through myth? |
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| [08:35:00] | gavin: | Hi Slicer |
| [08:35:00] | SlicerDicer--: | hi |
| [08:35:00] | SlicerDicer--: | still getting the same error |
| [08:35:00] | SlicerDicer--: | FATAL: Error inserting lirc_serial (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5–386/misc/lirc_serial.ko): Device or resource busy |
| [08:36:00] | SlicerDicer--: | I cant get it to work no matter what IRQ i put it at |
| [08:36:00] | SlicerDicer--: | as soon as I change the IRQ to the right one that I have bios set to it pukes |
| [08:36:00] | SlicerDicer--: | but if I change it to a IRQ that is not used by the serial port just to test it works |
| [08:36:00] | SlicerDicer--: | but the irblaster does not |
| [08:37:00] | SlicerDicer--: | so i cannot get this shit to work at all |
| [08:37:00] | milkyflava: | SlicerDicer, have you tried using the other serial port? |
| [08:37:00] | SlicerDicer--: | I dont have but 1 serial port |
| [08:38:00] | SlicerDicer--: | any ideas? |
| [08:38:00] | milkyflava: | what distro? |
| [08:38:00] | SlicerDicer--: | ubuntu |
| [08:38:00] | milkyflava: | don't know it, sorry |
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| [08:46:00] | milkyflava: | thanks all |
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| [08:51:00] | SlicerDicer--: | does anybody use a serial IR-Blaster? |
| [08:56:00] | fatmatt: | SlicerDicer-: do you have the serial port working/enabled? |
| [08:57:00] | SlicerDicer--: | I assume its working |
| [08:57:00] | SlicerDicer--: | how can I tell if tis working |
| [08:58:00] | SlicerDicer--: | its enabled |
| [08:58:00] | fatmatt: | usual module for serial port is... 8250 or 8250_pnp I think.. hmm I've got both |
| [08:58:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer--: read the lirc docs. |
| [08:58:00] | SlicerDicer--: | dun and dun |
| [08:58:00] | fatmatt: | just do an lsmod and see if those modules are there, hten maybe check dmesg to see the serial port was detected and enabled at boot? |
| [08:59:00] | SlicerDicer--: | already did a lsmod |
| [08:59:00] | SlicerDicer--: | lirc_dev is there |
| [08:59:00] | mchou: | tells you to disable the kernel sserial driver. |
| [08:59:00] | SlicerDicer--: | mchou, I dont have a kernel serial driver on do i? |
| [08:59:00] | fatmatt: | man setserial |
| [09:00:00] | fatmatt: | maybe? |
| [09:00:00] | SlicerDicer--: | no manual entry for setserial |
| [09:00:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer--: if you read lirc docs you would have known about it. |
| [09:01:00] | SlicerDicer--: | let me check my bloody kernel |
| [09:02:00] | fatmatt: | ahhh the bloody kernel |
| [09:03:00] | SlicerDicer--: | haha |
| [09:04:00] | SlicerDicer--: | well I guess part of my problem is I use a stupid kernel its stupid lol |
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| [09:06:00] | SlicerDicer--: | mchou, http://www.lirc.org/html/install.html#testing is that the docs you were talking about that I should have read? |
| [09:06:00] | SlicerDicer--: | cause thats what I have been reading |
| [09:07:00] | mchou: | nope. back up to the beginning. |
| [09:07:00] | SlicerDicer--: | well yeah |
| [09:07:00] | SlicerDicer--: | it says you dont have to disable it |
| [09:07:00] | fatmatt: | ahhh avidemux is the key I think |
| [09:08:00] | mchou: | it says use setserial to disable it. |
| [09:08:00] | fatmatt: | http://avidemux.sourceforge.net/ looks like it does nuppelvideo |
| [09:09:00] | mchou: | and since you arent using setserial, guess what your problem is..... |
| [09:09:00] | SlicerDicer--: | :) |
| [09:09:00] | SlicerDicer--: | well I just put setserial on this box hehe |
| [09:09:00] | fatmatt: | I can't believe I made a semi useful suggestion |
| [09:10:00] | SlicerDicer--: | mchou, sorry I am kinda tired heh |
| [09:10:00] | fatmatt: | if not useful, then at least on-topic |
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| [09:11:00] | fatmatt: | woot avidemux is playing my rtjpeg nuppelvideo files |
| [09:11:00] | mchou: | you guys are pitiful, groping about in the dark when the docs tell you what to do on the 2nd/3rd paragraph. |
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| [09:19:00] | SlicerDicer--: | mchou, I am a idiot i admit it can you forgive me :) |
| [09:21:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer--: you married? |
| [09:22:00] | SlicerDicer--: | no lol |
| [09:23:00] | fatmatt: | has anyone ever tried one of those multiple monitor output cards with multiple frontends running off the one machine? |
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| [09:51:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer--: what distro you finally settle on? |
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| [09:58:00] | SlicerDicer--: | brb mchou |
| [09:58:00] | SlicerDicer--: | ubuntu for nowe |
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| [10:00:00] | Aneurysm9: | anyone know how the svn repository is setup? http://cvs.mythtv.org doesn't seem to work and both svn:// and https:// hang |
| [10:01:00] | mchou: | checking in or out? |
| [10:01:00] | Aneurysm9: | out |
| [10:01:00] | mchou: | works for me here. |
| [10:01:00] | Aneurysm9: | can you paste your co command? |
| [10:02:00] | mchou: | well, http does, at least. |
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| [10:05:00] | Aneurysm9: | here's the error I'm getting: |
| [10:05:00] | Aneurysm9: | svn ls http://cvs.mythtv.org/svn/trunk qq(Wed,Jun22)qj |
| [10:05:00] | Aneurysm9: | svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/trunk' |
| [10:05:00] | Aneurysm9: | svn: PROPFIND of '/svn/trunk': 405 Method Not Allowed (http://cvs.mythtv.org) |
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| [10:10:00] | SlicerDicer--: | strange now when I run irw to test my remote it crashes lircd :/ |
| [10:17:00] | SlicerDicer--: | brb again |
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| [10:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey mchou you here? |
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| [11:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I am off |
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| [12:12:00] | f00bar: | good morning |
| [12:15:00] | stoffel: | moin |
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| [12:49:00] | gnarface: | hello everybody |
| [12:49:00] | gnarface: | good morning! |
| [12:49:00] | brejc8: | 10 mins of it left |
| [12:57:00] | laga: | 2 |
| [12:59:00] | laga: | 0. |
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| [13:06:00] | f00bar: | good afternoon |
| [13:06:00] | f00bar: | :p |
| [13:07:00] | f00bar: | has anyone been able to control myth's menus with a joystick, it doesnt work for me |
| [13:10:00] | ** f00bar assumes no ** | |
| [13:10:00] | laga: | *sigh* |
| [13:10:00] | f00bar: | :) |
| [13:10:00] | laga: | someone at www.mythtv.info did. |
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| [13:14:00] | f00bar: | laga: I think they are talking about using one with mythgame rather than controlling the menus, unless I have found the wrong page |
| [13:16:00] | laga: | i could have sworn that they have a howto. sorry. |
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| [13:17:00] | f00bar: | thanks anyway though |
| [13:17:00] | f00bar: | gentoowiki mentions something about just making a config file but that doesnt work |
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| [13:59:00] | f00bar: | laga: apparantly it is a compile time option, oops |
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| [15:28:00] | purplefrog: | I vaguely recall that mythtv had added a feature where you could hear audio while playing faster than normal. Is that feature in 0.18? I couldn't find any setup option to enable it. |
| [15:29:00] | jonK: | look for time stretch in the remote keys.txt |
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| [15:29:00] | jonK: | or do you mean more general, while fastforwarding? |
| [15:29:00] | jonK: | time stretch can speedup/slow down playback slightly |
| [15:30:00] | jonK: | although whenever I've tried to speed up it just sounds like the chipmunks |
| [15:30:00] | purplefrog: | I was thinking of while fastforwarding. |
| [15:30:00] | bhursey: | I have a question I want to change toe default tv watching from myth tv to tvtime what xml config file would I change? |
| [15:30:00] | bhursey: | I searched on google no dice. |
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| [15:31:00] | bhursey: | Because untell I get enough money to get a good decoder card im stuck with software encodeing.. And in myth tv tv is not even watchabul. |
| [15:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | purplefrog: You use timestretch to playback the video at a faster than normal rate, including the audio |
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| [15:32:00] | purplefrog: | Ahah, timestretch is bound to A |
| [15:32:00] | purplefrog: | Although, it sounds kind of choppy when I get close to 2x. |
| [15:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | I never play faster than 1.5 or 1.6 |
| [15:33:00] | jonK: | anythning I can do to cure the "chipmunk effect" |
| [15:33:00] | brejc8: | Time stretch is a god send. When you go back to normal speed everyone sounds slow |
| [15:33:00] | purplefrog: | It doesn't sound like a chipmunk for me. |
| [15:33:00] | jonK: | i know, i think it's something on my end |
| [15:33:00] | bhursey: | do any of yall know how to have tv time start when you click Watch tv? |
| [15:33:00] | purplefrog: | I'm not sure what "tv time" is. |
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| [15:34:00] | bhursey: | tvtime is a verry good tv application for linux |
| [15:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | bhursey: You've already said what you need to know. but no I don't remember off hand exactly which xml file to edit |
| [15:34:00] | brejc8: | it is in one of the theme xml files |
| [15:34:00] | brejc8: | grep for xawtv |
| [15:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah, there is already a commented out example showing xawtv |
| [15:35:00] | bhursey: | In the documentation? |
| [15:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | in the xml files |
| [15:35:00] | bhursey: | all I found wa menu configs |
| [15:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | then you didn't look hard enough :) |
| [15:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythtv@woop:~$ grep -ir xawtv /usr/local/share/mythtv/* |
| [15:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | /usr/local/share/mythtv/tvmenu.xml: <action>EXECTV xawtv -f -device %s -dspdev %s -vbidev %s</action> |
| [15:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes/classic/tvmenu.xml: <action>EXECTV xawtv -f -device %s -dspdev %s -vbidev %s</action> |
| [15:36:00] | bhursey: | Thanks!!!! |
| [15:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | /usr/local/share/mythtv/tvmenu.xml: <action>EXECTV xawtv -f -device %s -dspdev %s -vbidev %s</action> |
| [15:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | your file location may vary as packagers often put them in /usr/share instead of the default /usr/local/share |
| [15:37:00] | jonK: | when I install the HD3000 card, what happens if i try to playback hdtv recorded content on a non-hdtv television? |
| [15:37:00] | jonK: | or do i have the excuse i need to go get the 50" plasma? |
| [15:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | It would get scaled down to whatever your resolution is |
| [15:37:00] | bhursey: | Gray: Thank you so much. |
| [15:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | np |
| [15:38:00] | jonK: | damn... was hoping it wouldn't work at all, leaving me no choice but to head to best buy |
| [15:38:00] | purplefrog: | I have to wonder, why would anyone watch live tv? |
| [15:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | purple *shrug* :) |
| [15:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's extremely rare for me |
| [15:38:00] | jonK: | I bought my brother a tivo for christmas, a couple weeks ago he came to me and said "now I get it" |
| [15:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahah |
| [15:39:00] | bhursey: | because i have a leadtek2000xp capture card and it does not have hardware decoder. So I have a major lag issue. |
| [15:39:00] | purplefrog: | The last time I watched live TV was immediately after I upgraded to 0.18. I was checking to make sure nothing had exploded. |
| [15:39:00] | jonK: | my system often crashes if i try to watch livetv |
| [15:39:00] | jonK: | so I don't even bother trying anymore |
| [15:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | purplefrog: That's basically how I use it, s a diagnostice tool. Load up livetv, set pip to verify everything is cool, and close it. |
| [15:40:00] | purplefrog: | My Hauppauge PVR250 doesn't have a hardware decoder, but my Athlon XP 2600 CPU is fast enough to decode it |
| [15:40:00] | bhursey: | hehe |
| [15:40:00] | bhursey: | ya I decided to use my server as my myth box. I dont want to dedicate my 3000barton desktop to it.. |
| [15:40:00] | jonK: | plus, from the frontend, to buffer enough live tv between channel changes is PITA |
| [15:40:00] | jonK: | takes 5 seconds to change channel |
| [15:41:00] | bhursey: | My myth tv box is an 1.3gig t-bird with 512 pc133 |
| [15:41:00] | jonK: | i'm far to impatient for that |
| [15:41:00] | bhursey: | I just wish I had cable and did not have to deal with direct tv.. |
| [15:42:00] | purplefrog: | I wish I had more RAM. I picked up a 512M stick, but my ASUS motherboard is too picky to use it. |
| [15:42:00] | purplefrog: | CRAP, gotta fly. work. |
| [15:43:00] | bhursey: | anywyas I got the system working this past week end. Here is a pic of my crappy setup. http://168.28.53.66/~thehole/mythtv/mythtv.jpg |
| [15:43:00] | bhursey: | its running gentoo. |
| [15:44:00] | bhursey: | The thing that stinks is my tv is only coaxul so I dont have the quality I would like to have. |
| [15:46:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i cant even output to my coaxl only tv |
| [15:47:00] | bhursey: | Well I used a rfmodularo to convert s-video to coaxl |
| [15:47:00] | bhursey: | rfmagulator |
| [15:47:00] | bhursey: | gerr |
| [15:47:00] | bhursey: | o well dam dislexia |
| [15:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and those are like 100 bux? |
| [15:48:00] | bhursey: | 20 |
| [15:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | hmm |
| [15:48:00] | bhursey: | a good one is 20 |
| [15:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i had one of those.. |
| [15:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it was 20 |
| [15:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but it didtn work.. |
| [15:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | my computer didnt detect it |
| [15:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | there was one for 100.. |
| [15:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i might not have been an rf modulator...but it would work supposidly.. |
| [15:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i didnt try it |
| [15:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im just using my mythbox on my tv with svideo |
| [15:49:00] | bhursey: | what do you have out? |
| [15:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | svideo out |
| [15:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well, i will |
| [15:49:00] | bhursey: | well an rf modulator should be totaly independent |
| [15:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | as soon as i get the card i bought yesterday |
| [15:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well, my computer wont do tvout without detecting the tv |
| [15:50:00] | JohnnyQuest: | crappy windows drivers |
| [15:50:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and then my linux box, there arnt drivers for the radeon i have |
| [15:50:00] | bhursey: | ohh ya ati cards suck |
| [15:50:00] | JohnnyQuest: | so it wont do tvout yet |
| [15:50:00] | bhursey: | i got a nvidia card and it was so easy to get tv out |
| [15:50:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i bought a geforce2 yesterday for 10 bux |
| [15:51:00] | bhursey: | hehe |
| [15:51:00] | JohnnyQuest: | so that should fix it |
| [15:51:00] | JohnnyQuest: | my windows machine has a 6600gt |
| [15:51:00] | bhursey: | ya you know how to set up your xorg config for tv out |
| [15:51:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and it wont work unless i boot with the tv on the correct channel |
| [15:51:00] | JohnnyQuest: | not yet, but i odnt have the card yet |
| [15:51:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ill owrry about that later |
| [15:51:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ill find a tutorial or something |
| [15:51:00] | bhursey: | If I was at home I could find you teh code |
| [15:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its cool |
| [15:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | someone will know it when i need to know it |
| [15:52:00] | bhursey: | If you get grey when you send tv out |
| [15:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im actually building my case today |
| [15:52:00] | bhursey: | just set out to composit and it will work |
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| [15:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [15:52:00] | bhursey: | i think it stays the same quality |
| [15:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ill see |
| [15:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i hope the guy i bought the card from lives close |
| [15:53:00] | bhursey: | well I wish you lick I finaly got my box most of the way up this past weekend. |
| [15:53:00] | bhursey: | luck |
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| [15:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i got mine up over the weekend too |
| [15:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but, no tvout |
| [15:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and no case yet |
| [15:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | hey man, we don't judge. If you wanna wish him lick go for it |
| [15:54:00] | bhursey: | What capture card are you using? |
| [15:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [15:54:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [15:54:00] | JohnnyQuest: | pvr-150 |
| [15:54:00] | bhursey: | good |
| [15:54:00] | bhursey: | I wish I would of read up on decoders. |
| [15:54:00] | bhursey: | Because mins has to use software and on an 1.3 it chokes |
| [15:54:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i have a 1.4 |
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| [15:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, in this case the 150 is an encoder |
| [15:55:00] | bhursey: | yes |
| [15:55:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [15:55:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i have to use the processor as my decoder.. |
| [15:55:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but it works fine |
| [15:55:00] | bhursey: | you shouldent isent the 150 an iv card? |
| [15:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | no |
| [15:56:00] | bhursey: | so its a bttv |
| [15:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | the 250, 150, adn 500 are capture cards which have tv encoding |
| [15:56:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [15:56:00] | JohnnyQuest: | they encode |
| [15:56:00] | JohnnyQuest: | decoding is playing back |
| [15:56:00] | bhursey: | good |
| [15:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | the 350 is a capture card which has hardware encoding plus a hardware decoder |
| [15:56:00] | bhursey: | thats what I need |
| [15:56:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and if you get a good nvidia card, it helps with hardware decoding |
| [15:56:00] | bhursey: | how much is the 350? |
| [15:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | no idea |
| [15:56:00] | JohnnyQuest: | 180 |
| [15:57:00] | bhursey: | good god |
| [15:57:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i think thats what it iwas |
| [15:57:00] | bhursey: | I paid 35$ for my card LOL |
| [15:57:00] | JohnnyQuest: | was* |
| [15:57:00] | JohnnyQuest: | what do you have? |
| [15:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | you are much more flexible using a 250/150 and a regular nvidia card since the 350's decoder is mpeg1/2 only |
| [15:57:00] | bhursey: | leadtek 2000xp Expert |
| [15:57:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i paid 100 for my pvr150 |
| [15:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | So you are software encoding to rtjpeg or mpeg4 |
| [15:57:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i paid too much for it but that was cuz i didnt want to wait on shipping |
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| [15:58:00] | bhursey: | I got it because it got great reviews for linux. But for some reason myth tv chokes the sound is 10 seconds ahead and it laggs every 2 seconds |
| [15:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | lots of possible reasons |
| [15:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | dma not enabled on your drives |
| [15:58:00] | JohnnyQuest: | mine lags every 2 seconds occasionally |
| [15:58:00] | bhursey: | it is |
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| [15:59:00] | bhursey: | i used hdparm to check |
| [15:59:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and i get prebuffer pause |
| [15:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | processor just can't keep up (which I would expect a 1.3 to keep up) |
| [15:59:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but, if i restart it fixes it |
| [15:59:00] | JohnnyQuest: | 1.3 what? |
| [15:59:00] | bhursey: | tbird |
| [15:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | his processor |
| [15:59:00] | bhursey: | amd |
| [15:59:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [15:59:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i have a 1.4 tbird |
| [15:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | and as for sound being that far off. It's likely cause you didn't follow the directions onmmythtv.org :) |
| [15:59:00] | JohnnyQuest: | mine is a little, fried i think.. |
| [16:00:00] | JohnnyQuest: | mine will randomly get 100% cpu, for no reason on any operating system.. |
| [16:00:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i dont have a clue as to why.. |
| [16:00:00] | bhursey: | i think it could also be that Ihad to go back to an older mother bord that only suports ata-66 also I read that via chipsets have known problems with dma. |
| [16:00:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i have a via chipset |
| [16:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | they have yeah |
| [16:00:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but it wasnt the problem set |
| [16:00:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but, i have ata 100 on my mobo |
| [16:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | but for the big audio lag of several seconds it's the way your mixer is configured |
| [16:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | second 7 of the docs on mythtv.org describes it and what you need to do |
| [16:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | second = section |
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| [16:02:00] | bhursey: | second section is introduction sure you dont mean the third which is hardware |
| [16:02:00] | JohnnyQuest: | has anyone hooked up game controlers to their mythbox for use with the emulators? |
| [16:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | "section 7" |
| [16:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | JohnnyQuest: I have |
| [16:02:00] | bhursey: | ahh |
| [16:03:00] | JohnnyQuest: | how hard is it to get them to work and what kind did you use? |
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| [16:03:00] | bhursey: | this may help |
| [16:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | Gravis USB Gamepads, was as simple as configuring it in my kernel or loading the proper modules |
| [16:03:00] | bhursey: | Man Grey your on a role today. |
| [16:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | there is nothing you need to coinfigure in myth about it |
| [16:03:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [16:04:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i think thats the usb gamepad i own already.. |
| [16:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | You do of course need to configure your emulator seperately for it |
| [16:04:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i need to repair a joystick on it though |
| [16:04:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [16:04:00] | bhursey: | Ya you need to add usb suport for it In the kernel |
| [16:04:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but, just getting the controls drivers and such to work, i thought that would be hard |
| [16:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | This is the gamepad I use . (Old picture, but it's the same) http://pics.phaze.org/?album=albums/2000/09-2 . . . 019.jpg& |
| [16:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [16:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | thats different than mine |
| [16:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | 5 year old photo, but the same ones (I have 3) still chug along |
| [16:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but i belive i have the same brand |
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| [16:06:00] | brad: | I need some help getting the HDTV card running in linux could somebody please help me, in private chat if easier |
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| [16:06:00] | bhursey: | I think its under device drivers > usb support |
| [16:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use to use it with the TVout on my old vodo3 card :) |
| [16:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | voodoo3 |
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| [16:06:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [16:06:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and the voodoo3 would work on linux? |
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| [16:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [16:06:00] | JohnnyQuest: | wow |
| [16:06:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i almost got a hurcules yesterday...but then i found a geforce |
| [16:06:00] | CyberKnet: | sorry Brad, I don't use HDTV. |
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| [16:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | does it matter if i only got a 32mb card for my tvout? |
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| [16:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | as long as you can get the card to work it shouldn't matter |
| [16:07:00] | bhursey: | device drivers>usb support >[*] X-Box gamepad support |
| [16:07:00] | bhursey: | maby |
| [16:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
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| [16:07:00] | ** CyberKnet used to use his voodoo2 on linux ** | |
| [16:07:00] | brad: | ok, anybody else? its a Visionplus card im running Kernel 2.6.11–1.27 |
| [16:08:00] | bhursey: | brad did you check to see if linux supported it befor you bought it? |
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| [16:09:00] | brad: | yes, i have searched the mailing list and it seems that a fair few people have |
| [16:09:00] | bhursey: | so this is a hd capture card? |
| [16:09:00] | brad: | but they all seem to be talking about different kernel revisions and having to patch the kernel\ |
| [16:09:00] | brad: | yes |
| [16:10:00] | bhursey: | so they are probibly talking about 2.4 with a patch right? |
| [16:10:00] | brad: | from what i have read its based on the BT8X8 chipset |
| [16:10:00] | brad: | nah the 2.6.something |
| [16:11:00] | bhursey: | device drivers > Multimedia devices > |
| [16:11:00] | bhursey: | opps one sec |
| [16:11:00] | brad: | when i list the PCI devices as stated in wilsonet's howto i can see it their |
| [16:11:00] | brad: | but its not in the /dev/ directory |
| [16:12:00] | bhursey: | device drivers > Multimedia devices > <*> Video for Linux > Video For Linux ---> <M> BT848 Video For Linux (NEW) |
| [16:12:00] | bhursey: | im runing an older kernel so it should still be in tehre im runing 2.6.4 on my work desktop |
| [16:13:00] | brad: | wheres that in |
| [16:13:00] | brad: | konquerer |
| [16:13:00] | bhursey: | cd /usr/src/linux |
| [16:13:00] | bhursey: | then you |
| [16:13:00] | brad: | NOTE: i would say im a novice linux user |
| [16:13:00] | bhursey: | make menuconfig |
| [16:13:00] | bhursey: | its how you configure your kernel |
| [16:14:00] | bhursey: | you navigate and the use space bar to select |
| [16:14:00] | bhursey: | * means built in |
| [16:14:00] | brad: | the src directory is empty |
| [16:14:00] | bhursey: | M means modual I think for capture cards I would sugest a Module |
| [16:14:00] | bhursey: | crap |
| [16:14:00] | bhursey: | what distro are you using? |
| [16:14:00] | brad: | Fedora 3 |
| [16:14:00] | bhursey: | i bet its teh default kernel |
| [16:15:00] | bhursey: | YAY |
| [16:15:00] | bhursey: | i hate that distro |
| [16:15:00] | brad: | yeah its fresh install |
| [16:15:00] | bhursey: | LOL I had to build a kluster using it |
| [16:15:00] | bhursey: | cluster |
| [16:15:00] | bhursey: | ok |
| [16:15:00] | brad: | the only reason i used it is because i had this howto handy |
| [16:15:00] | bhursey: | what we are going to need to do is download a new kernel source from kernel.org |
| [16:15:00] | brad: | ok |
| [16:16:00] | bhursey: | and extract it un /usr/src |
| [16:16:00] | brad: | i have installed apt-get, can i get it with that |
| [16:16:00] | bhursey: | you can but I only know how to do it from scratch |
| [16:16:00] | brad: | ok |
| [16:16:00] | bhursey: | i dono where fedora stores its defalt kernel.... |
| [16:17:00] | bhursey: | what boot loader are you using? |
| [16:17:00] | bhursey: | lilo or grub |
| [16:17:00] | brad: | grub |
| [16:17:00] | bhursey: | crap haha all the stuff I dont use. |
| [16:17:00] | brad: | the latest kernel is 6.2.12 do u want me to get that |
| [16:17:00] | brad: | yeah it was just the default |
| [16:17:00] | bhursey: | i think it may be like /etc/grub.conf |
| [16:18:00] | brad: | yep |
| [16:18:00] | bhursey: | you need to find out where your current curnel is. and coppy the config file over.. unless youw ant to hand config your kernel to your hard ware. That can be a pain but it acualy will make your system boot and run faster. |
| [16:20:00] | brad: | whats the name of it? do u know |
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| [16:21:00] | bhursey: | its normal .config but sence your kenal was auto configed it is a vmlinux kernel it may not be in there. |
| [16:21:00] | bhursey: | im searching for you |
| [16:22:00] | bhursey: | I use gentoo and debian |
| [16:22:00] | brad: | yeah ive heard some good things about gentoo, and debian supposed to be pretty advanced |
| [16:23:00] | bhursey: | ya I would sugest gentoo it takes for ever to install but things mesh better than debian |
| [16:23:00] | bhursey: | and the documentation is teh best |
| [16:24:00] | bhursey: | ok I dislike fedora core |
| [16:24:00] | bhursey: | i cant find anything on how to config their kernel |
| [16:24:00] | brad: | hey i found this |
| [16:25:00] | mocker: | Gentoo – http://funroll-loops.org/ |
| [16:25:00] | mocker: | :) |
| [16:25:00] | Beirdo: | gentoo is only if you have tons of spare time |
| [16:25:00] | bhursey: | ya |
| [16:25:00] | bhursey: | well if you have a week end. I can do base install in 5 houers |
| [16:26:00] | bhursey: | but stage 3 it will take 2 |
| [16:26:00] | bhursey: | but it runs liek a dream |
| [16:26:00] | brad: | lib/modules/2.6.9–1.667/build/.config |
| [16:26:00] | bhursey: | ahh |
| [16:26:00] | bhursey: | cd into lib/modules/2.6.9–1.667/build/ |
| [16:26:00] | bhursey: | and see if it will let you make menuconfig as root |
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| [16:27:00] | brad: | but i think the how to im reading got me to upgrade from that to 6.2.11–1.27 |
| [16:27:00] | bhursey: | ohh |
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| [16:28:00] | bhursey: | I have to go back to work but basicly you extract the new kernel to /usr/src and sim link it to /usr/src/linux |
| [16:28:00] | brad: | i found a dir with my current rev in it, but theirs no .config file |
| [16:29:00] | brad: | ok thanks |
| [16:29:00] | bhursey: | then you coppu your old .config file into it and cd to /usr/src/linux and then you use make menuconfig to config it and add the bt module. then you exit the config and run make |
| [16:29:00] | bhursey: | after that you need to point grub to the kernel I dont rember if grub does it automaticly or not. |
| [16:29:00] | bhursey: | lilo you have to point in the config file |
| [16:30:00] | brad: | ok i will have a go at that and see how it goes, thanks for all your help |
| [16:30:00] | bhursey: | maby that config is pointing to the old one |
| [16:31:00] | brad: | yeah |
| [16:31:00] | bhursey: | good luck and keep a live disk handy |
| [16:31:00] | bhursey: | hehe |
| [16:31:00] | bhursey: | if you screw up |
| [16:31:00] | brad: | if it doesnt work do you know of a howto for Gentoo |
| [16:31:00] | bhursey: | you can acess your configs and re make it |
| [16:31:00] | bhursey: | to install? |
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| [16:31:00] | brad: | to get gentoo up and running with Mythtv |
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| [16:32:00] | bhursey: | here is the install |
| [16:32:00] | bhursey: | http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml |
| [16:32:00] | bhursey: | and i will get you the mythtv how too |
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| [16:32:00] | brad: | i sort of know enough to get around but some of the more complicated stuff im not to confident with |
| [16:32:00] | bhursey: | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV |
| [16:33:00] | bhursey: | well if you do the getoo install I garentey you will learn comand line |
| [16:33:00] | bhursey: | hehe |
| [16:33:00] | bhursey: | there is no gui |
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| [16:33:00] | bhursey: | but its step by step |
| [16:33:00] | brad: | hbey didnt find that site in my googling |
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| [16:33:00] | bhursey: | ya haha that wiki is the bomb |
| [16:33:00] | bhursey: | gento has a large comunity |
| [16:34:00] | brad: | yeah command line im pretty good with for windows and i have had to learn some command line Unix stuff at work |
| [16:34:00] | bhursey: | well try gentoo if youe ageek you will love it |
| [16:34:00] | brad: | no worries thanks for that, and have fun at work |
| [16:34:00] | bhursey: | just give yoru self a week end and go watch tv while it compiles |
| [16:34:00] | bhursey: | hehe |
| [16:35:00] | bhursey: | i can give you my aim if you have any questions |
| [16:35:00] | brad: | yeah i will probably just do a bit here and their |
| [16:35:00] | brad: | dont have aim sorry, only MSN and ICQ |
| [16:35:00] | bhursey: | well i can give you my msn |
| [16:35:00] | bhursey: | haha |
| [16:35:00] | bhursey: | or my icq |
| [16:35:00] | brad: | haha yeah if thats ok |
| [16:35:00] | bhursey: | thats fine |
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| [16:35:00] | bhursey: | bkh81@msn.com |
| [16:36:00] | brad: | done, thanks |
| [16:36:00] | bhursey: | np |
| [16:37:00] | bhursey: | i help alot of people use gento here at my university. |
| [16:37:00] | bhursey: | We have a small following. |
| [16:37:00] | brad: | which uni, Country |
| [16:37:00] | bhursey: | US |
| [16:37:00] | brad: | i went to Deakin uni, Aus |
| [16:37:00] | bhursey: | Atlanta |
| [16:37:00] | bhursey: | cool Australia? |
| [16:37:00] | brad: | yeah |
| [16:38:00] | brad: | its not bad to far away at times |
| [16:38:00] | bhursey: | cool haha how the weather. cold? |
| [16:38:00] | bhursey: | its wintere there right? |
| [16:38:00] | brad: | at the moment 13DegC |
| [16:38:00] | brad: | yeah |
| [16:38:00] | brad: | right in the middle |
| [16:38:00] | bhursey: | heh. |
| [16:39:00] | bhursey: | its 21c here |
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| [16:39:00] | bhursey: | well im out talk to you all later. |
| [16:39:00] | brad: | damm, its going to be partly sunny on sat here the first time in a while |
| [16:39:00] | brad: | seeya |
| [16:39:00] | bhursey: | heh |
| [16:39:00] | bhursey: | bye |
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| [16:56:00] | CyberKnet: | I need to stay out of #mythtv |
| [16:56:00] | CyberKnet: | I see questions asked in there, and I have opinions, and its all I can do to keep my mouth shut =) |
| [16:57:00] | jonK (js2638@xmission.xmission.com) Quit ("User abort with 5 Ctrl-C's") | |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | you always have opinions |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
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| [16:59:00] | CyberKnet: | Yes, I know =) |
| [17:00:00] | jasoncohen: | SlicerDicer-, did you get mythtv working on debian last night? |
| [17:00:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: that makes it all the more difficult to keep my trap shut when someone says "anyone have any thoughts on _____" |
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| [17:01:00] | f00bar: | # |
| [17:01:00] | f00bar: | whoops |
| [17:01:00] | Beirdo: | I have some thoughts... but they ain't printable, and they ain't about what he asked |
| [17:01:00] | f00bar: | which x dev packages do i need to compile myth from source |
| [17:02:00] | rjune: | most of them |
| [17:02:00] | rjune: | f00bar: which distro? |
| [17:02:00] | f00bar: | debian |
| [17:02:00] | jonK: | lol, I'm disappointed about missing the earlie rconversation |
| [17:02:00] | rjune: | jonK: which one? |
| [17:02:00] | jonK: | "but they aint't printable" |
| [17:03:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [17:03:00] | jasoncohen: | f00bar, did you do apt-get build-dep mythtv ? |
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| [17:04:00] | f00bar: | jasoncohen: i did indeed |
| [17:04:00] | jasoncohen: | but it's still missing some deps? |
| [17:04:00] | f00bar: | well |
| [17:04:00] | jonK: | and by the way, the contraction "ain't" is a contraction of "am" and "not" so, as wrong as it sounds to most people, the phrase "I ain't ____________" is correct, and the use "they ain't" corresponds to "they am not" which is clearly icorrect |
| [17:04:00] | f00bar: | I want to build with xvmc |
| [17:04:00] | f00bar: | and when the debian build script runs configure it is not enabled, i assume this is because of missing devs |
| [17:04:00] | jonK: | most people seem to use "ain't" in place of "isn't" |
| [17:04:00] | jonK: | or "aren't" |
| [17:04:00] | Beirdo: | stupid @$@$#@#ing cfengine |
| [17:05:00] | rjune: | jonK: English Nazi today? |
| [17:05:00] | Beirdo: | no English for you! |
| [17:05:00] | jonK: | grammar! |
| [17:05:00] | jasoncohen: | f00bar, you have to enable it. i actually think the one on that site has xvmc enabled so it must include the deps |
| [17:05:00] | jonK: | conjunction junction baby |
| [17:05:00] | rjune: | ain't isn't a conjunction though, it's a contraction |
| [17:06:00] | rjune: | which seems to indicate that the baby is coming soon |
| [17:06:00] | f00bar: | jasoncohen: I've got --enable-xvmc and --enable-xvmc-vld set |
| [17:06:00] | jonK: | yes, but i can't think of a schoolhouse rock quote for contractions |
| [17:06:00] | Beirdo: | In Soviet Russia, the baby contracts YOU! |
| [17:06:00] | rjune: | neither can I, don't remember the english ones and they didn't cover contractions in the body ones |
| [17:06:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: LOL |
| [17:07:00] | jasoncohen: | f00bar, and it's not compiling with xvmc support? if you don't have the right deps the compile would just fail |
| [17:07:00] | f00bar: | jasoncohen: it is coming up with disabled |
| [17:07:00] | jasoncohen: | have you tried the binaries? i believe they have xvmc support. |
| [17:07:00] | jonK: | I write for a living, so I get pickyl my IRC typing skills notwithstanding. |
| [17:07:00] | jasoncohen: | deb http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv |
| [17:08:00] | f00bar: | jasoncohen: I wanted to tailor the compile |
| [17:08:00] | f00bar: | i dont think they have xvmc-vld |
| [17:08:00] | Beirdo: | Woohoo |
| [17:09:00] | Beirdo: | my distillery on puzzle pirates got some orders |
| [17:09:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:09:00] | f00bar: | the worrying thing is it turns off other things like: x11 support no |
| [17:09:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: yay |
| [17:09:00] | rjune: | so puzzle pirates is fun then ya? |
| [17:09:00] | jonK: | I started playing that last weekend, holy shit..... |
| [17:09:00] | jonK: | must.... fight |
| [17:09:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:09:00] | jonK: | urges...\ |
| [17:09:00] | Beirdo: | it's so much fun |
| [17:10:00] | jonK: | if i start playing it the next likely question is |
| [17:10:00] | jonK: | Why is it getting light out? |
| [17:10:00] | Beirdo: | and now the mud I play on... they decided to do a player wipe "to make it more fun"... so I'm not going to play it for a few months, screw them |
| [17:11:00] | Beirdo: | so I don't have to worry about splitting my time |
| [17:11:00] | jasoncohen: | f00bar, want me to send yu a list of the mythtv deps i have? |
| [17:11:00] | f00bar: | jasoncohen: please |
| [17:13:00] | jasoncohen: | what's the command to start a new conversation in a different window? /msg just sends a private message in the current chat |
| [17:13:00] | Beirdo: | use /query |
| [17:13:00] | jasoncohen: | ok |
| [17:13:00] | Beirdo: | depends on your client, but that's the usual way |
| [17:14:00] | jasoncohen: | yeah, that worked |
| [17:14:00] | jasoncohen: | thanks |
| [17:14:00] | Beirdo: | no prob |
| [17:16:00] | rjune: | jonK: new toy? |
| [17:16:00] | Beirdo: | jonK: I've seen a few sunrises due to puzzle pirates already |
| [17:16:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:18:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: he /queried me |
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| [17:25:00] | jonK: | just learning bitchx |
| [17:26:00] | rjune: | jonK: heh |
| [17:27:00] | Beirdo: | irssi is much nicer, I've found |
| [17:27:00] | Beirdo: | but whatever works for you |
| [17:28:00] | LostSole: | irssi is really nice... running it from a ssh session somewhere else is convienient. |
| [17:29:00] | Beirdo: | and the proxy functionality rules |
| [17:29:00] | ** LostSole nods. ** | |
| [17:29:00] | Beirdo: | I run it as a proxy on my linode |
| [17:29:00] | Beirdo: | and connect to it from whereever (ssl is good, mmkay?) |
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| [17:34:00] | jonK: | irssi console-based? |
| [17:34:00] | laga: | jonK: yep. |
| [17:34:00] | Beirdo: | aye |
| [17:34:00] | jonK: | i'll apt-get it |
| [17:35:00] | laga: | good boy |
| [17:35:00] | Beirdo: | Oh wow |
| [17:35:00] | Beirdo: | Santana's putting me to sleep today |
| [17:36:00] | Beirdo: | I think I need more sleep |
| [17:37:00] | EdMcMan: | hi |
| [17:39:00] | Beirdo: | did we win? |
| [17:41:00] | jonK: | it was already there... |
| [17:41:00] | jonK: | but not configured, I'll have to play with it later |
| [17:41:00] | jonK: | maybe it is on this system |
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| [17:42:00] | jonK_: | well what do you know? |
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| [17:43:00] | Beirdo: | and I'm heading for lunch. |
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| [17:46:00] | jonK: | Bierdo: what do you like abot irssi, or dislike about bitchx |
| [17:46:00] | EdMcMan: | (+Beirdo) and I'm heading for lunch. |
| [17:46:00] | crash-x: | jonk tab completation |
| [17:47:00] | crash-x: | i wonder how people can live without it |
| [17:47:00] | laga: | crash-x: rotfl |
| [17:47:00] | jonK: | aha.. |
| [17:47:00] | crash-x: | why rofl? |
| [17:48:00] | laga: | because he got beirdo's name wrong – he'd have got it right if he used tab |
| [17:48:00] | EdMcMan: | is there any way to increase a frontend's buffering? |
| [17:50:00] | jonK: | damn, i usually use ATP to make sure I get that right too... |
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| [17:52:00] | stoffel: | EdMcMan: there's a ringbuffer setting in the frontend |
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| [17:55:00] | EdMcMan: | stoffel: thanks, I think that is what I need |
| [17:59:00] | stoffel: | on /. 'Politics: Broadcast Flag Sneak Not Attempted' |
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| [18:08:00] | LedHed: | morning all |
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| [18:16:00] | xris: | man, I really need to remember to tell the janitor NOT to touch my screens. |
| [18:16:00] | xris: | now they're all uneven. |
| [18:16:00] | Beirdo: | leave a note on them |
| [18:16:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [18:16:00] | xris: | I just keep forgetting. |
| [18:16:00] | Beirdo: | "touch these and I will hunt you down" |
| [18:16:00] | LedHed: | that'll work |
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| [18:18:00] | LedHed: | any thoughts on Dovecot vs. Courier. I'm vorking on setting up a Mail server with Webmail access. |
| [18:19:00] | ** LedHed has a russian accent today ** | |
| [18:20:00] | ** Beirdo thinks... just what the hell does that have even remotely to do with MythTV? Screw it, let's talk booze ** | |
| [18:20:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [18:20:00] | xris: | I use courier |
| [18:20:00] | xris: | don't know anything about dovecot, though. |
| [18:20:00] | Beirdo: | for IMAP, I am using courier |
| [18:21:00] | xris: | postfix + courier imap seems to be the preferred method |
| [18:21:00] | xris: | although I use courier mta, too. |
| [18:21:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [18:21:00] | Beirdo: | postfix++ :) |
| [18:21:00] | xris: | doesn't matter for webmail — most packages out there do imap. |
| [18:21:00] | LedHed: | why use postfix mta & courier mta? |
| [18:21:00] | Beirdo: | huh? |
| [18:22:00] | Beirdo: | you can only use one mta |
| [18:22:00] | Beirdo: | silly |
| [18:22:00] | LedHed: | xris said he uses courier mta also |
| [18:22:00] | xris: | LedHed: I don't use postfix |
| [18:22:00] | LedHed: | ah. |
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| [18:22:00] | xris: | I may switch someday, but don't have time. |
| [18:23:00] | LedHed: | I didn't realize that courier does smtp |
| [18:24:00] | LedHed: | I've been using Communigate Pro for 2 years now, but I want to try opensource on my home server |
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| [18:30:00] | xris: | LedHed: both courier and postfix are easy to set up. postfix has more goodies, courier handles better under extremely (and I mean *extremely*) high load. |
| [18:30:00] | xris: | and there's a lot more community support for postfix, including Beirdo here. :) |
| [18:30:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:30:00] | Beirdo: | I'm just starting to use it, but it's nice |
| [18:31:00] | Beirdo: | I still like sendmail though |
| [18:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've been happily using postfix for years. It's nice |
| [18:31:00] | Beirdo: | I wouldn't subject it on unsuspecting newbies, but sendmail is nice too |
| [18:31:00] | LedHed: | well, I doubt that beirdo is gonna give me postfix support in the MythTV-USers forum. I think I'm going Postfix, Courier, Squirrelmail |
| [18:31:00] | Beirdo: | postfix is considerably more scalable |
| [18:31:00] | Beirdo: | that's a good combo to go with |
| [18:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | stable, easily configurable (english config files!), lots of native support for different things like sql backends and such. Overall nifty stuff |
| [18:32:00] | Beirdo: | a good start, the nice thing is... once your IMAP stuff is right, you can switch the web frontend relatively easily |
| [18:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've still got one machine running sendmail only because I haven't cared enough to change it :) |
| [18:32:00] | Beirdo: | sendmail just rules though :) |
| [18:32:00] | Beirdo: | you need a black belt in sysadmin ninja to get it right if you do any customization though |
| [18:33:00] | Beirdo: | tis a BITCH to figure out. |
| [18:33:00] | Beirdo: | postfix is way easier |
| [18:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use to have to deal with it daily, but after we found postfix we dropped it like a hot potatoe |
| [18:33:00] | LedHed: | comming from Communigate and iMAil for Win32, I'm lazy. I want a web interface or GUI, but I doubt there are any Linux MTA's with GUI other than Webmin. |
| [18:34:00] | Beirdo: | good luck with that |
| [18:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | We use to have sendmail (with custom mysql) patches running on a P166 handling mail for 100k users. Ahh those were the days |
| [18:34:00] | Beirdo: | such fun |
| [18:34:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [18:34:00] | LedHed: | I'll get use to text files eventually... |
| [18:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's how I feel when I'm forced to use a gui for something :) |
| [18:35:00] | Beirdo: | now if our postfix boxes at work get too busy, we just spark up another. and start blocking spammers |
| [18:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | "I guess I'll get use to it eventually" |
| [18:35:00] | LedHed: | GreyFoxx, lol |
| [18:35:00] | xris: | LedHed: hulaproject.org |
| [18:36:00] | Beirdo: | www.beerme.org? |
| [18:36:00] | ** laga beers beirdo ** | |
| [18:36:00] | Beirdo: | OMG, that domain's available :) |
| [18:36:00] | laga: | http://pumppuhuone.kicks-ass.org/~unzi/pics/166066fkMJ.jpg |
| [18:36:00] | Beirdo: | drinking Canada Dry right now, but thanks |
| [18:37:00] | Beirdo: | nice fake billboard :) |
| [18:37:00] | LedHed: | laga, thats a sweet billboard |
| [18:37:00] | laga: | yep |
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| [18:40:00] | laga: | http://www.rootcompromise.org/hhg/index.php <- hacker handle generator. :> |
| [18:40:00] | Beirdo: | Dumb@$$ |
| [18:40:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [18:41:00] | ** Beirdo needs a life ** | |
| [18:41:00] | crash-x: | Mr. Atom |
| [18:41:00] | crash-x: | lol |
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| [18:41:00] | ** Beirdo needs to book the next vacation... ** | |
| [18:42:00] | ** LedHed = Paranoid Flooder ** | |
| [18:43:00] | Beirdo: | not far off :) |
| [18:43:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:43:00] | LedHed: | ;p |
| [18:43:00] | Beirdo: | although you haven't flooded for quite a while :) |
| [18:43:00] | LedHed: | they just finished the wiring in my house. I now have a 28" can in my office closet. |
| [18:43:00] | LedHed: | its quite funny |
| [18:43:00] | Beirdo: | ?! |
| [18:44:00] | Beirdo: | I'm so tired |
| [18:45:00] | Beirdo: | damn you, puzzlepirates ;) |
| [18:45:00] | xris: | lol |
| [18:45:00] | LedHed: | I had my house wired for network, cable, full house audio, surveillance, Alarm, and Lighting automation.. Lotta wires... |
| [18:46:00] | xris: | wow |
| [18:46:00] | xris: | best I have is ethernet. |
| [18:46:00] | LedHed: | all routed to my office closet |
| [18:46:00] | xris: | man, I need to get under the house and staple up those wires, too. |
| [18:46:00] | xris: | mine goes to my garage. |
| [18:46:00] | Beirdo: | hehe, get to it, xris |
| [18:46:00] | Beirdo: | between rainstorms |
| [18:47:00] | Cardoe: | wireless |
| [18:47:00] | xris: | needs to be on dry days until I fix the river under my house. |
| [18:47:00] | Cardoe: | way to go |
| [18:47:00] | LedHed: | I figured that with the walls open it was easier to do it now vs. later... |
| [18:47:00] | Beirdo: | it's nice and toasty here |
| [18:47:00] | Chutt: | xris, you broke things :p |
| [18:47:00] | xris: | Cardoe: maybe when they come out with 100–1000bT wireless. |
| [18:47:00] | xris: | Chutt: what'd I break? |
| [18:47:00] | Chutt: | binary files that people didn't mark as binary files in cvs |
| [18:47:00] | Beirdo: | 72F, 50% humidity!? You lie! it's hotter than that |
| [18:48:00] | xris: | that wasn't me, that was cvs2svn |
| [18:48:00] | Chutt: | should've told me about the ignore mime-types/file-endings flag to the conversion script :p |
| [18:48:00] | Chutt: | yeah, but i could've fixed it |
| [18:48:00] | xris: | oh. I didn't know about that. heh. |
| [18:48:00] | LedHed: | I also had the contractor run Smurf tube to all AV, and Network outlets so that its future proof.... |
| [18:48:00] | jonK: | I've got 89 and 55% humidity |
| [18:48:00] | Chutt: | yeah, it's ok |
| [18:48:00] | xris: | but yeah, saw the notes and the huge commits. |
| [18:48:00] | Chutt: | stuff's fixed where it matters |
| [18:48:00] | jonK: | smurf tube? |
| [18:48:00] | xris: | hmm, I wonder if I should check mythweb. heh. |
| [18:49:00] | Chutt: | the old branches/tags probably don't checkout properly, anyway |
| [18:49:00] | Beirdo: | it's 98F/55% in PR. |
| [18:49:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:49:00] | Chutt: | yes, please do |
| [18:49:00] | Chutt: | and nuvexport |
| [18:49:00] | xris: | nuvexport doesn't have any binary stuff |
| [18:49:00] | Chutt: | ah |
| [18:49:00] | LedHed: | jonK, its a flex conduite. called smurf tube because its blue like a smurf |
| [18:49:00] | jonK: | like a vacuum hose? |
| [18:49:00] | jonK: | or rigid and holds shape? |
| [18:49:00] | xris: | I'll just update my fix_props function to set those flags properly. |
| [18:49:00] | LedHed: | jonK, similar, but much more rigid. |
| [18:49:00] | Chutt: | can't |
| [18:50:00] | Chutt: | has to be done at conversion time |
| [18:50:00] | jonK: | like a giant flexi-straw |
| [18:50:00] | Chutt: | i tried just fixing the props, didn't work :( |
| [18:50:00] | xris: | oh, so basically just copy in all of the old images... |
| [18:50:00] | Chutt: | yeah |
| [18:50:00] | xris: | sucky. |
| [18:50:00] | LedHed: | jonK, ya, but more stiff. |
| [18:50:00] | xris: | could re-convert the old branches. heh. probably too much work, though. |
| [18:50:00] | Chutt: | better to use the ignore commands to the script |
| [18:50:00] | Chutt: | yeah, i'm lazy |
| [18:51:00] | Chutt: | and, like i said, they probably won't be checked out in a compiliable way |
| [18:51:00] | Chutt: | due to how i've abused cvs in the past |
| [18:51:00] | Beirdo: | tsk tsk |
| [18:51:00] | Beirdo: | poor CVS |
| [18:51:00] | xris: | heh |
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| [18:54:00] | Chutt: | i could've reimported, but didn't want to confuse trac anymore =) |
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| [18:54:00] | Beirdo: | Oh damn, falling asleep again. BAH |
| [18:54:00] | Chutt: | oh, speaking of that, i managed to break trac by trying to browse the tree while a big commit was going on |
| [18:54:00] | Chutt: | it was completely unuseable, had to do a trac-admin resync |
| [18:54:00] | emilylove: | I'm trying to do apt-get install mythtv-suite and its saying "Couldn't find package" is the name changed? |
| [18:56:00] | emilylove: | heh wow..I know how to silence a room :-) |
| [18:56:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:56:00] | mocker: | emilylove: Does apt-cache search mythtv-suite show anything? |
| [18:56:00] | Beirdo: | more details, emilylove? |
| [18:56:00] | Beirdo: | what distro? |
| [18:57:00] | emilylove: | FC3 |
| [18:57:00] | emilylove: | mocker – nope |
| [18:57:00] | jonK: | emily or just apt-cache search mythtv to see what is there |
| [18:57:00] | jonK: | might have to install individual packages |
| [18:57:00] | Beirdo: | Hmm, should be FC3 RPMs |
| [18:57:00] | emilylove: | nothing |
| [18:58:00] | mocker: | emilylove: Did you apt-get update? |
| [18:58:00] | emilylove: | according to the wilsonnet site (which he sounds ilke the big guru on myth for FC3 — mythtv.org links to him) the apt-get should work |
| [18:58:00] | emilylove: | mocker yes...I can do it again just to be sure..should I? |
| [18:58:00] | xris: | heh. apparently the mythweb images are already correct. |
| [18:58:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod|afk: hide |
| [18:58:00] | Chutt: | i did try to fix everything |
| [18:59:00] | xris: | well, seems you did. |
| [19:00:00] | emilylove: | any other ideas? |
| [19:00:00] | CyberKnet: | everyday super heroes, every day. |
| [19:02:00] | emilylove: | is there an advantage to doing a manual install as opposed to just using knopp? |
| [19:03:00] | xris: | emilylove: using packages makes upgrading cleaner. |
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| [19:05:00] | emilylove: | I see |
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| [19:05:00] | emilylove: | did apt-get work for any of you? I'm a bit confused as to why it isn't working |
| [19:06:00] | jonK: | it's not finding the package you're asking to install it sounds like |
| [19:06:00] | LedHed: | emilylove, FC4 packages arent out yet.works for me |
| [19:06:00] | LedHed: | oops |
| [19:06:00] | emilylove: | im using fc3 |
| [19:06:00] | LedHed: | ahh, |
| [19:06:00] | LedHed: | you could try yum |
| [19:06:00] | emilylove: | why wouldn't it be able to find it? is there another explanation other than the package not existing? |
| [19:06:00] | emilylove: | doesn't apt-get do like a web search? |
| [19:07:00] | brejc8: | Im on FC4 and everything is fine compiling your self |
| [19:07:00] | jonK: | no, it checks the sources listed in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| [19:07:00] | jonK: | for the package you've requested |
| [19:07:00] | LedHed: | ya but the mythtv-suite doesnt exist |
| [19:07:00] | emilylove: | NOW it works |
| [19:07:00] | jonK: | after the "apt-get update" |
| [19:07:00] | LedHed: | emilylove, you need to do an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| [19:07:00] | emilylove: | stupid thing.. |
| [19:08:00] | jonK: | would you prefer it continue to not work? |
| [19:08:00] | brejc8: | It will take about a day to upgrade all the packages btw |
| [19:08:00] | emilylove: | ha ha jonk...no |
| [19:08:00] | jonK: | i'm sure we can make that happen for you |
| [19:08:00] | LedHed: | I've also noticed that if your firewall is running squid then sometimes apt gets mucked up |
| [19:08:00] | emilylove: | I've done the dist-upgrade |
| [19:08:00] | jonK: | and is it myth-suite or mythtv-suite |
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| [19:09:00] | CyberKnet: | mythtv-suite, last time I checked |
| [19:09:00] | jonK: | i mix those up for doezens of things |
| [19:09:00] | LedHed: | it only takes me 45min to upgrade brejc8 |
| [19:09:00] | emilylove: | well, I'll see how it goes....:-) hopefuly I'll be up and running soon... |
| [19:09:00] | brejc8: | LedHed: This is on FC3 and all packages selected over ADSL |
| [19:09:00] | LedHed: | Ya |
| [19:10:00] | LedHed: | I did it about a month ago. Full clean install of FC3 then did an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade.. |
| [19:11:00] | LedHed: | I get 5mbit down though... |
| [19:11:00] | jonK: | that's a lot of bits |
| [19:11:00] | LedHed: | Comcast residential cable |
| [19:11:00] | jonK: | probably have a lot of blinking lights to show that many bits |
| [19:12:00] | LedHed: | the led's stay lit |
| [19:12:00] | jonK: | like the WOPR |
| [19:12:00] | LedHed: | in war games |
| [19:12:00] | jonK: | evil computers always have lots of blinking lights |
| [19:12:00] | LedHed: | all computers are evil |
| [19:13:00] | jonK: | my point stands |
| [19:13:00] | xris: | das computer mit dem blinkenlights is nicht fur die gefingerpoken |
| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | computers define evil these days |
| [19:13:00] | jonK: | and evil germans always have strong accents |
| [19:13:00] | laga: | xris: ack |
| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | hey, be nice to the Germans |
| [19:13:00] | laga: | yeah |
| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | at least they know how to make beer |
| [19:13:00] | jonK: | in the movies* |
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| [19:13:00] | xris: | laga: that's not supposed to be german |
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| [19:13:00] | LedHed: | why? |
| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | unlike the Americans :) |
| [19:13:00] | laga: | xris: i know. |
| [19:13:00] | laga: | xris: more like netherlands |
| [19:13:00] | xris: | http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article09-100 |
| [19:14:00] | jonK: | good germans don't have accents -- |
| [19:14:00] | jonK: | go wach some 60's movies about WWII |
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| [19:14:00] | jonK: | you'll see what i mean |
| [19:14:00] | CyberKnet: | what is these "good germans" you speak of? |
| [19:14:00] | ** CyberKnet hides in the corner ** | |
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| [19:14:00] | CyberKnet: | =) |
| [19:14:00] | Beirdo: | take the sheep with you |
| [19:14:00] | Peit|home: | hey, Beirdo, question, is your nuv2avi disk or cpu bound would you say? |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | not sure |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | likely a bit of both |
| [19:15:00] | CyberKnet: | You're still *in* the sheep. how can I take it to the corner if you're still using it? |
| [19:15:00] | Peit|home: | just wondering if 222 fps is good or not |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | it needs to reencode audio |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | hehe, it's WAY better than using transcode... if the output's OK |
| [19:15:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: ssht. peta is watching you. |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | 10x or more faster than transcode or ffmpeg |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | I have it hit 700fps or so sometimes |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | I really should find the time to FIX that stuff and re-release |
| [19:16:00] | Peit|home: | o.k. so it may benefit from a faster CPu |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | sigh |
| [19:16:00] | Peit|home: | :) |
| [19:17:00] | CyberKnet: | "Das rubber-necken Sichtseeren keep die Hands in die Pockets — relaxen und watchen Das Blinkenlights." ... lmao |
| [19:18:00] | CyberKnet: | although I think it should have been Pocketsen |
| [19:18:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: you'd never seen that before? |
| [19:18:00] | CyberKnet: | Nope. =) |
| [19:18:00] | CyberKnet: | somehow missed out on that gem. |
| [19:18:00] | xris: | we had it posted on the wall of the computer lab in college. |
| [19:18:00] | CyberKnet: | love the "me-tooen" |
| [19:18:00] | CyberKnet: | =) |
| [19:19:00] | darkfire: | for us non german speakers? |
| [19:19:00] | CyberKnet: | that wasn't german =) |
| [19:19:00] | CyberKnet: | that was bastardized english =) |
| [19:19:00] | darkfire: | heh |
| [19:19:00] | darkfire: | so it was. |
| [19:19:00] | xris: | I should print it out and stick it up in the support area here. |
| [19:19:00] | CyberKnet: | The rubber-necked sight see-er keep the hands in the pockets — relax and watch the blinking lights." |
| [19:19:00] | jonK: | but pretty fine |
| [19:20:00] | CyberKnet: | "Ist nicht fuer gewerken bei die dummkopfen!" |
| [19:20:00] | CyberKnet: | now that one I'd understand if you weren't as sure about =) |
| [19:21:00] | jonK: | south park? |
| [19:21:00] | CyberKnet: | no... http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article09-100 |
| [19:22:00] | jonK: | sounded like Cartman in the mel gibson/passion episode |
| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | HEY, you stepped on my foot, you pig-fscker! |
| [19:22:00] | CyberKnet: | I did not, you fat fuck! |
| [19:23:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:23:00] | Beirdo: | don't call me fat, buttfscker! |
| [19:23:00] | Beirdo: | Cartmen rules. |
| [19:23:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [19:23:00] | CyberKnet: | "I'm not fat. I'm festively plump!" |
| [19:24:00] | CyberKnet: | "Dude, cartman, why are you eating a cardboard box for?" |
| [19:24:00] | CyberKnet: | that was the funniest ep =) |
| [19:24:00] | Beirdo: | hehehehe |
| [19:24:00] | CyberKnet: | eating a cardboard box... licking green carpet ... priceless |
| [19:24:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [19:25:00] | Beirdo: | and didn't he go after the cat too? |
| [19:25:00] | j-rod|afk is now known as j-rod | |
| [19:25:00] | darkfire: | heh, yeah |
| [19:25:00] | Beirdo: | that was a funny episode to be sure |
| [19:25:00] | darkfire: | "mom, kitty's being a dildo!" "...I know a kitty who's sleeping with mommy tonight." |
| [19:27:00] | CyberKnet: | touche |
| [19:27:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:27:00] | opello_ is now known as opello | |
| [19:27:00] | Beirdo: | Cartmen++ |
| [19:27:00] | darkfire: | heh |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | I have this little Cartmen that hung from my rear-view mirror while I had a car :) |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | his big-boned body swung around as I went over bumps. hehe |
| [19:29:00] | CyberKnet: | I love the oh holy night rendition that cart makes |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | heheheheh |
| [19:29:00] | CyberKnet: | "It is the night with the christmas tree, and pieeee." |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | "And now in French!" |
| [19:29:00] | CyberKnet: | yeah =) |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | WHAT?! |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | definitely good Christmas music when you are subjected to all the schmaltz for too long |
| [19:30:00] | CyberKnet: | aaah, I mostly only ever got to watch southpark on the computer |
| [19:30:00] | CyberKnet: | it didn't show for a *long* time in Australia |
| [19:30:00] | CyberKnet: | the networks ... they didn't get the idea of a bunch of little kids running around cussing. |
| [19:30:00] | LostSole: | Heh... I seem to like all the one-or-two episode characters like Towlie and Tweak, more than most of the rgular characters. |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [19:30:00] | CyberKnet: | I mean, ANY tv watcher can explain the genius of that plot... |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | they bleep it a lot up here |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | "Am I to understand there's some kinda towlie-ban?" |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:31:00] | LostSole: | heh – and I just saw that one of the local broadcast channels around here will start re-showing old eps. |
| [19:31:00] | CyberKnet: | I saw one the other day where kenny was controlling the angel army with a PSP ... although the idea was funny, the show just didn't seem as funny. |
| [19:31:00] | LostSole: | "do you wanna get high?" |
| [19:32:00] | CyberKnet: | oh, and the all time funniest ever episode of South Park.... |
| [19:32:00] | CyberKnet: | "Red Rocket, Red Rocket, Red Rocket!" |
| [19:32:00] | CyberKnet: | ;) |
| [19:32:00] | Beirdo: | oh GOD |
| [19:32:00] | CyberKnet: | hahahah |
| [19:32:00] | CyberKnet: | bet you'd forgotten about that one. |
| [19:32:00] | CyberKnet: | =) |
| [19:32:00] | Beirdo: | I sure tried |
| [19:32:00] | jonK: | no, "Ben Affleck spooge" |
| [19:32:00] | jonK: | funniest line ever |
| [19:33:00] | jonK: | my name is jennifer lopez; i like tacos and burritos |
| [19:34:00] | darkfire: | lol, remember the one where they bought ninja swords and starts and whatnot, and played ninjas |
| [19:34:00] | darkfire: | that was so friggin funny |
| [19:34:00] | jonK: | poor butters |
| [19:34:00] | CyberKnet: | remember that one where they said "Oh my god, they killed kenny! You Bastards!" |
| [19:34:00] | CyberKnet: | ? |
| [19:34:00] | darkfire: | they draw them all anime style until butters gets hit in the face |
| [19:34:00] | jonK: | "i've got some apples loo loo loo" |
| [19:34:00] | darkfire: | CyberKnet, sorry, drawing a blank |
| [19:34:00] | CyberKnet: | aaah... maybe it's from a different show. |
| [19:35:00] | CyberKnet: | saw the dodgeball one again the other day. good, old material =) |
| [19:40:00] | CyberKnet: | dammit. I did it again. thought something was said in here, and unshut my mouth in the dev channel. |
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| [19:43:00] | Beirdo: | hah |
| [19:43:00] | Beirdo: | you suck |
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| [19:44:00] | CyberKnet: | do I ever. |
| [19:46:00] | xris: | southpark got banned here at work... someone played lemmywinks at lunchtime. |
| [19:46:00] | j-rod is now known as j-rod|afk | |
| [19:46:00] | CyberKnet: | hah |
| [19:48:00] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [19:49:00] | CyberKnet: | Geez. I stopped reading the lists for just one week because they got too backed up while my cable was out |
| [19:49:00] | CyberKnet: | and now I hear that we're changing to svn |
| [19:50:00] | CyberKnet: | next thing I know, we'll switch to postgres while I'm on vacation next year! |
| [19:50:00] | CyberKnet: | *grin* |
| [19:51:00] | Beirdo: | dream on |
| [19:54:00] | LostSole: | gah – how much of a mess would that be, if myth had to support both postgres and mysql. |
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| [19:57:00] | sskk: | Has anyone had trouble with the sharpness of the PVR-150 card, using the (latest ivtv driver, firmware from the driver CDrom)... I think the picture is not really clear – It might be that the quality is very good in the first 30 secs or so after a reboot, but I'm not too sure about that – any advice? |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | it could work fine |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | but it would be slow |
| [19:58:00] | Beirdo: | sskk: dunno, don't have one |
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| [19:58:00] | sskk: | slow, how?... switching channels? |
| [19:59:00] | Beirdo: | no, that was to LostSole before you arrived |
| [19:59:00] | sskk: | right, sorry |
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| [20:06:00] | JohnnyQuest: | sskk, mine is perfect |
| [20:07:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i have the firmware on the ivtv website with 3 stars, and i have nte newst testing ivtv driver |
| [20:08:00] | JohnnyQuest: | channel changes take like 5 seconds for me though. |
| [20:08:00] | JohnnyQuest: | 5400 rpm hd 1.4ghz tbird :( |
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| [20:13:00] | Beirdo: | JohnnyQuest: using ext3, I bet |
| [20:13:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [20:13:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well, for a few of my partitions |
| [20:13:00] | JohnnyQuest: | jfs for my vido partition |
| [20:14:00] | Beirdo: | hmm, woulda thought jfs would be faster than that for deletion |
| [20:14:00] | JohnnyQuest: | what am i deleting? |
| [20:14:00] | Beirdo: | make sure that your ring buffer is on a non-ext3 partition |
| [20:14:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it is |
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| [20:15:00] | emilylove: | ok ok stupid question..where the heck to I get a zap2it username/pass? I can't find the @#%#@ link... |
| [20:15:00] | Beirdo: | it's in the documentation for mythtv |
| [20:15:00] | CyberKnet: | yes. |
| [20:15:00] | Beirdo: | RTFM :) |
| [20:15:00] | CyberKnet: | very prominently. |
| [20:15:00] | emilylove: | ill look again...sorry if its in there *blush* |
| [20:15:00] | CyberKnet: | If you just read the contents, you can't miss it. |
| [20:16:00] | sskk: | jonnyquest: can you see any difference between you recordings and the TV-signal with no myth/PVR-interference |
| [20:17:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya, but i have digital cable |
| [20:17:00] | rben: | My PVR-350 card died, so I need to replace it. Any suggestions? |
| [20:17:00] | JohnnyQuest: | pvr 150 |
| [20:17:00] | rben: | I want TV Out,too |
| [20:17:00] | JohnnyQuest: | geforce2 |
| [20:18:00] | JohnnyQuest: | 120 bux right there |
| [20:18:00] | CyberKnet: | a hundred and twenty bucks on a geforce2? |
| [20:18:00] | rben: | geforce2 mx? |
| [20:18:00] | emilylove: | ok, I'm an ass |
| [20:18:00] | emilylove: | sorry ... |
| [20:18:00] | JohnnyQuest: | no for a pvr 150 and a geforce2 |
| [20:18:00] | CyberKnet: | emilylove: no problem =) |
| [20:19:00] | JohnnyQuest: | 10 bux fora geforce2, 100ish for a pvr150, and shipping is something like 10 bux total |
| [20:19:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and you can even get the pvr150 cheaper |
| [20:20:00] | Chutt: | 100 for a pvr-150? |
| [20:20:00] | Chutt: | i just paid 130 for a 500 |
| [20:20:00] | laga: | blech. you recommend a geforce 2 for tv-out? |
| [20:20:00] | mocker: | Did anyone watch the systm episode on building a mythtv? |
| [20:20:00] | rben: | which model of geforce2? |
| [20:20:00] | Chutt: | so, um... |
| [20:20:00] | Chutt: | and a gf2 has pretty bad tv-out |
| [20:21:00] | rben: | I'd be happy to hear more suggestions |
| [20:21:00] | crash-x: | mocker: i did ,) |
| [20:21:00] | rben: | I want the best tv out I can get |
| [20:21:00] | mocker: | crash-x: Was it any good? |
| [20:21:00] | rben: | I have a pvr250 I can put in the box |
| [20:21:00] | crash-x: | yeah it was nice |
| [20:21:00] | laga: | mocker: i did. |
| [20:21:00] | mocker: | What distro did they use? |
| [20:21:00] | Chutt: | so get something with component out |
| [20:21:00] | laga: | mocker: knoppmyth |
| [20:21:00] | mocker: | Ahh. |
| [20:21:00] | Chutt: | and stop using svideo :p |
| [20:21:00] | mocker: | I've never tried knoppmyth. |
| [20:21:00] | Chutt: | or dvi, etc |
| [20:21:00] | rben: | knoppmyth is great |
| [20:21:00] | crash-x: | dont try it |
| [20:21:00] | rben: | I've been using it over a year |
| [20:22:00] | crash-x: | it sucks |
| [20:22:00] | mocker: | Hah. |
| [20:22:00] | mocker: | I'm up and stable so I'm not switching anytime soon. |
| [20:22:00] | rben: | I think it's one of the easier ways to get a system up and running mythtv |
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| [20:22:00] | JohnnyQuest: | knoppmyth is easy and so is fc3 |
| [20:23:00] | rben: | haven't used fc3 yet |
| [20:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it was easier for me.. |
| [20:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | to get the whole system running |
| [20:23:00] | rben: | is it possible to upgrade from fc1 to fc3 w/o losing everything? |
| [20:23:00] | crash-x: | for me nothing with knopmyth worked |
| [20:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i have no idea |
| [20:23:00] | crash-x: | would be same when i set up debian |
| [20:23:00] | crash-x: | :/ |
| [20:23:00] | rben: | I have had to tinker a bit with Knoppmyth, but there are some pretty good docs now |
| [20:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i suggest fc3 crashx |
| [20:24:00] | crash-x: | nah |
| [20:24:00] | crash-x: | i hate rpm based distros |
| [20:24:00] | JohnnyQuest: | gives you an os, and there are some really good tutorials and its realyl easy |
| [20:24:00] | rben: | apt-get is very nice |
| [20:24:00] | crash-x: | yep |
| [20:24:00] | JohnnyQuest: | yes it is |
| [20:24:00] | crash-x: | apt-get and freebsd ports are the best |
| [20:24:00] | JohnnyQuest: | you use that to install it on fc3 |
| [20:24:00] | Beirdo: | and rpm-based have apt |
| [20:24:00] | crash-x: | and probably gentoos emerge too, since it was stolen ;) |
| [20:24:00] | rben: | so what other cards are good for tv out? |
| [20:24:00] | JohnnyQuest: | 5200 |
| [20:25:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its like 40bux.. |
| [20:25:00] | JohnnyQuest: | my mythbox cant handle most 5200's though :( agp 4x. |
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| [20:26:00] | kormoc: | JohnnyQuest, pci 5200's |
| [20:26:00] | rben: | can't do that on this box |
| [20:26:00] | JohnnyQuest: | why not? |
| [20:26:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya i know, but they are less common |
| [20:26:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and cost more |
| [20:26:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i dotn care |
| [20:26:00] | kormoc: | pci 5500's are nice too |
| [20:26:00] | ** kormoc has a pci 5200 ** | |
| [20:26:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i hope my geforce2 will be good enough |
| [20:26:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ill see when it arives |
| [20:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it was 10 bux, so it wasnt a huge investment |
| [20:27:00] | kormoc: | total cost $45 :) |
| [20:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | more money than i have right now... |
| [20:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im home for the summer and i dont make money at home |
| [20:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | up at school i get money |
| [20:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | so in august/september i can upgrade |
| [20:28:00] | rben: | money isn't a big deal for us |
| [20:29:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya ive noticed |
| [20:29:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it is for me, im only 18 |
| [20:29:00] | rben: | I'm an old fart |
| [20:29:00] | laga: | JohnnyQuest: so am i. it really sucks to be a poor student ;) |
| [20:29:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i get like 600 a week up at school |
| [20:29:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but at home i get like 150 |
| [20:29:00] | laga: | 150 a week? |
| [20:29:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [20:29:00] | Beirdo: | you need to pimp yourself out better |
| [20:29:00] | laga: | JohnnyQuest: umm. turkish money? |
| [20:29:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i work 20 hours a week |
| [20:30:00] | JohnnyQuest: | us money |
| [20:30:00] | laga: | ummk. |
| [20:30:00] | JohnnyQuest: | minimum wage here is 6.15 an hour.. |
| [20:30:00] | jonK: | Im only interested in maximum wage |
| [20:30:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and i get better than that, but, its crappy pay |
| [20:30:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [20:30:00] | jonK: | for the pimping out |
| [20:31:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [20:31:00] | rben: | gonna be problems with the nvidia drivers, or is that all straigtened out now? |
| [20:31:00] | JohnnyQuest: | rben, if you are loaded, i suggest going to ebay and buying a mce computer, and then you can put mythtv on it |
| [20:32:00] | JohnnyQuest: | that will fix your system |
| [20:32:00] | rben: | not that loaded |
| [20:32:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [20:32:00] | JohnnyQuest: | dammit, i have homework to do for class tonight :( |
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| [20:33:00] | ** jonK has thoughts of going back for second graduate degree ** | |
| [20:33:00] | ** xris needs to pay off his FIRST graduate degree first. ** | |
| [20:34:00] | xris: | useless piece of paper. |
| [20:34:00] | ** JohnnyQuest needs to make it to though undergraduate school ** | |
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| [20:35:00] | jonK: | hah! |
| [20:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [20:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | so far, its been easy |
| [20:35:00] | jonK: | I'm down to about $15k in loans |
| [20:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | wow |
| [20:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i havnt taken out a loan yet. |
| [20:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | most if it is paid for with scholarships |
| [20:36:00] | rben: | how much is the pvr 150 going for? |
| [20:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | 100 |
| [20:36:00] | Aneurysm9: | consider yourself lucky JohnnyQuest, I just finished my JD and I'm at about $70k, which is kinda low |
| [20:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well at cc it is, online you can get it for about 85 |
| [20:36:00] | jonK: | I have one of thouse... |
| [20:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | jd? |
| [20:37:00] | jonK: | fancy shiny one |
| [20:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | what is a JD? |
| [20:39:00] | Aneurysm9: | Juris Doctorate, fancy word for lawyer degree |
| [20:39:00] | JohnnyQuest: | o ok |
| [20:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im just going for a bachelors degree, i dont think i even want a masters |
| [20:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i hate school |
| [20:40:00] | jonK: | you'll get over that |
| [20:40:00] | Aneurysm9: | so do I, I'm not sure how I made it through seven years after high school |
| [20:41:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i didnt go to my senior year of hs |
| [20:41:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i got a 1.4 my senior year... |
| [20:41:00] | JohnnyQuest: | cuz i didnt show up ever |
| [20:41:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well i showed up sometimes.. |
| [20:41:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but, not often enough |
| [20:41:00] | Aneurysm9: | I got kicked out my senior year, almost didn't graduate, look at me now ;) |
| [20:41:00] | Beirdo: | I want to go back to school... if I didn't have to pay for it and living expenses, I woudl |
| [20:42:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its fun tho, everything but the damn english classes that are required |
| [20:42:00] | JohnnyQuest: | those have been my only hard classes |
| [20:42:00] | jonK: | I did even less, I dropped out as a junior |
| [20:42:00] | JohnnyQuest: | wow |
| [20:42:00] | JohnnyQuest: | my parents wouldnt let me do that |
| [20:42:00] | JohnnyQuest: | they both are pertty strict, both have masters degrees |
| [20:44:00] | gr0mit_home: | hi – anyone found a solution to playing .nuv files from Myth 0.18.1 that have been recorded from a DVB-T stream? I seem to have problems playing them under Windows. They play fine on my Myth box |
| [20:44:00] | gr0mit_home: | Mediaplayer says 'unrecognized file' |
| [20:45:00] | Beirdo: | then play them on your myth box? |
| [20:45:00] | gr0mit_home: | my kids have wondoze boxes in their rooms |
| [20:45:00] | Beirdo: | my condolences |
| [20:45:00] | gr0mit_home: | hehe! |
| [20:45:00] | JohnnyQuest: | .nuv, does vlc play it? |
| [20:45:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i throw vlc at all my problems... |
| [20:46:00] | Beirdo: | the output of DVB-T is MPEG2-TS |
| [20:46:00] | JohnnyQuest: | at least with video codecs on windows |
| [20:46:00] | Beirdo: | AFAIK |
| [20:46:00] | Aneurysm9: | or MPC, seems to work with most everything |
| [20:46:00] | Beirdo: | so... |
| [20:46:00] | Beirdo: | or mplayer |
| [20:46:00] | jonK: | Aneurysm9: Clerking? working? drinking? |
| [20:46:00] | Beirdo: | which must have a winblows port by now |
| [20:47:00] | Aneurysm9: | jonK: mostly drinking, studying for the bar part time, still no job |
| [20:47:00] | jonK: | aneurysm: technical background? |
| [20:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mplayer has had a windows port forever |
| [20:48:00] | Aneurysm9: | CIS degree |
| [20:48:00] | Beirdo: | so then you might be able to play the DVB-T files in mplayer for 'blows |
| [20:49:00] | gr0mit_home: | will try mplayer..... |
| [20:49:00] | gr0mit_home: | last version I tried crapped out when the aspect ration changes though |
| [20:49:00] | LostSole: | gr0mit_home: why not use something like avidemux to convert the files? |
| [20:49:00] | gr0mit_home: | in .uk some shows atr shown in 4:3 but the commercials are in 16:9 |
| [20:49:00] | Beirdo: | heh, what fun |
| [20:49:00] | LostSole: | err, or transcode or something? |
| [20:49:00] | gr0mit_home: | and as soon as the aspect changes in the stream mplayer rashed |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | nuvexport? |
| [20:50:00] | gr0mit_home: | i just want an easy thing to tell the kids 'here are the files – double click and watch |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | or just tell them to boot a knoppmyth CD when they wanna watch TV |
| [20:50:00] | Aneurysm9: | Beirdo: exactly what I was just going to suggest |
| [20:50:00] | gr0mit_home: | tried that. too slow |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | if they're old enough |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | what do you mean "too slow"? |
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| [20:51:00] | gr0mit_home: | too slow to shut down Windoze, boot knopmyth, enter all the parameters each time etc |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | ah |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | set em up with dual boot? |
| [20:51:00] | gr0mit_home: | low WAF and KAF |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | well, try VLC maybe if mplayer gacks |
| [20:51:00] | gr0mit_home: | VLC gives no audio |
| [20:52:00] | Aneurysm9: | how about Media Player Classic, works for me with most everything |
| [20:52:00] | gr0mit_home: | just downloading it now ! |
| [20:55:00] | doubleuu: | hey, does anybody know of a list of desired features??? |
| [20:55:00] | gr0mit_home: | no audio on pmc |
| [20:58:00] | doubleuu: | There must be something |
| [21:02:00] | doubleuu: | ok then |
| [21:03:00] | doubleuu: | how'bout if I list stuff and you tell me if you want it |
| [21:03:00] | jonK: | Aneurysm9 CIS == ?? |
| [21:05:00] | doubleuu: | Program suggestions... not unlike tivo suggestions |
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| [21:08:00] | doubleuu: | so that was the only thing I could think of |
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| [21:14:00] | gr0mit_home: | Yes! |
| [21:14:00] | gr0mit_home: | it works. Thanks! |
| [21:15:00] | gr0mit_home: | on Ch4 anyway... |
| [21:15:00] | gr0mit_home: | need to see if the BBC streams play back ok... |
| [21:18:00] | jonK: | tivo suggestions started taping episodes of saved by the bell... very disturbing |
| [21:18:00] | doubleuu: | me too |
| [21:19:00] | doubleuu: | and fresh prince |
| [21:19:00] | doubleuu: | It did bring me back though |
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| [21:20:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i like fresh prince |
| [21:20:00] | doubleuu: | but I want something that can actually make good suggestions. |
| [21:21:00] | JohnnyQuest: | the need better categorizing to make better suggestions |
| [21:21:00] | JohnnyQuest: | they* |
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| [21:22:00] | doubleuu: | well I think it should be based on viewing habits i.e. the commonalities between the programs I watch |
| [21:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | thats why they need better categorizing |
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| [21:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | or better searching methods |
| [21:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | like actors |
| [21:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | or more specific genres |
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| [21:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | or length.. |
| [21:24:00] | JohnnyQuest: | like, most of what i watch on tv is an hour long.. |
| [21:24:00] | JohnnyQuest: | except aqua teen hunger force.. |
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| [21:31:00] | doubleuu_: | oops |
| [21:31:00] | JohnnyQuest: | oops? |
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| [21:32:00] | jonK: | yeah, let's just go code up a nice kernel based lerning algorighm to deteremine the probability that a particualr show should be recorded |
| [21:32:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [21:32:00] | doubleuu_: | I like it |
| [21:32:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and if it is above 50%? it gets recorded |
| [21:32:00] | JohnnyQuest: | now, the farthest i went in computer programming was c++ ap computerscience in high school.. |
| [21:33:00] | jonK: | we'll just add the weka engine to mythtv |
| [21:33:00] | JohnnyQuest: | weka? |
| [21:34:00] | jonK: | use bayesian classifiers — it will be fantastic |
| [21:34:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [21:34:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it would be cool if someone actually programmed that into mythtv |
| [21:34:00] | doubleuu_: | so thats kinda what I wanted to hear |
| [21:34:00] | jonK: | www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~ml/weka |
| [21:34:00] | doubleuu_: | even as a joke |
| [21:35:00] | psm321: | if we're talking about what i think we're talking about... it would be interesting to do as an experiment |
| [21:35:00] | jonK: | of course, we'll need a cluster to effeciently seardch through any sizeable amount of modelspace |
| [21:35:00] | psm321: | and see what it comes up with |
| [21:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it should run at sometime when no one watches tv |
| [21:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | to figure otu what to record |
| [21:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | that way slower computers can do it |
| [21:36:00] | jonK: | even better, we'll use distribted computing... why should SETI and protein folding have all the fun |
| [21:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [21:37:00] | jonK: | all to predict that I'd prefer the old three's company episodes over joni loves ciacci |
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| [21:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lmao |
| [21:37:00] | jonK: | now that's computin' |
| [21:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [21:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i do protien folding |
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| [21:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well, i did, it gave me some problems |
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| [21:37:00] | JohnnyQuest: | competing for cpu of other programs |
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| [21:39:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i still think it would be cool if someone programmed that into mythtv |
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| [21:42:00] | doubleuu_: | well we will see what happens then, I have to contribute to an opensource project for a class. |
| [21:43:00] | doubleuu_: | I refuse to make it distributed |
| [21:43:00] | JohnnyQuest: | isnt mythrtv distributed? |
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| [21:43:00] | JohnnyQuest: | mythtv* |
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| [21:44:00] | doubleuu_: | --the algorithm wont require a cluster |
| [21:46:00] | doubleuu_: | although It might be cool to have it run in parallel if you do happen to have a distributed myth setup |
| [21:46:00] | JohnnyQuest: | make it a plugin |
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| [21:48:00] | doubleuu_: | It has to monitor what/when you watch tv, and what recorded programs you actually watch |
| [21:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | have fun with it |
| [21:48:00] | JohnnyQuest: | seems like a challenge |
| [21:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | do you know enough about coding to do that? |
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| [21:50:00] | doubleuu_: | well the question is do I know about machine learning |
| [21:50:00] | doubleuu_: | the answer is not yet |
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| [21:51:00] | doubleuu_: | well thanks for the input |
| [21:51:00] | JohnnyQuest: | did you come in here for input? |
| [21:51:00] | doubleuu_: | I wanted to see if I was the only one who liked that bit about the tivo |
| [21:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ive never had a tivo |
| [21:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but i heard about that |
| [21:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and i liked it |
| [21:52:00] | doubleuu_: | well you should probably never go from a myth box to a tivo |
| [21:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [21:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | why not? |
| [21:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | my mom was gonna get a dvr from the cable company |
| [21:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its 3 bux a month |
| [21:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i guess thats even less than a tivo.. |
| [21:53:00] | doubleuu_: | much |
| [21:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but, wouldnt a tivo have better quality than a mythbox? |
| [21:53:00] | doubleuu_: | like twelve bucks |
| [21:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | like faster channel changing? |
| [21:53:00] | doubleuu_: | yeah |
| [21:53:00] | doubleuu_: | it does |
| [21:53:00] | doubleuu_: | but |
| [21:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and better picture? |
| [21:54:00] | doubleuu_: | it just doesnt have the features a mythbox does |
| [21:54:00] | JohnnyQuest: | like, mine is equivalent to my tv plugged into cable, but not as good as my digital cable |
| [21:54:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [21:54:00] | doubleuu_: | its a pain to modify |
| [21:54:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its possible to modify? |
| [21:54:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i guess anything iwth an operating system is.. |
| [21:54:00] | doubleuu_: | sure... it runs linux 2.4.x |
| [21:54:00] | JohnnyQuest: | my friend modified is ipod to play movies |
| [21:54:00] | JohnnyQuest: | his* |
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| [21:55:00] | doubleuu_: | I believe he put a slightly modified version of 2.4 on that aswell |
| [21:56:00] | staf: | dhofstra: awake ? |
| [21:56:00] | JohnnyQuest: | he didnt get sound |
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| [21:57:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but he got the video to play |
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| [21:59:00] | doubleuu_: | so, anyway thanks... All I wanted to see was if at least one other person would use it |
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| [21:59:00] | JohnnyQuest: | so my wanting it is enough for you to attempt it |
| [21:59:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ? |
| [21:59:00] | doubleuu_: | well that and my own... yes |
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| [21:59:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [21:59:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well, i look forward to it |
| [22:00:00] | doubleuu_: | right, later |
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| [22:04:00] | emilylove: | ok I'm getting closer... |
| [22:04:00] | JohnnyQuest: | to what? |
| [22:04:00] | emilylove: | to getting mythtv working |
| [22:04:00] | JohnnyQuest: | oo |
| [22:04:00] | JohnnyQuest: | what distro are you using? |
| [22:04:00] | emilylove: | anyone have a problem with it freezing? |
| [22:04:00] | emilylove: | FC3 |
| [22:04:00] | JohnnyQuest: | thats what i am using |
| [22:04:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i havnt had mine freeze yet.. |
| [22:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | what do you mean by freezing? |
| [22:05:00] | emilylove: | mythsetup freezes when it gets to that first yes/no question |
| [22:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | hmm |
| [22:05:00] | emilylove: | and the yes/no buttens have no lables |
| [22:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i havnt had that happen |
| [22:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | hmm |
| [22:05:00] | emilylove: | I thought mythvfrontend was working, but it froze in a similar way too |
| [22:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | wat is the appearence set as? |
| [22:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | is it blue? |
| [22:05:00] | emilylove: | yes |
| [22:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok, other settings like GANT, i had trouble with |
| [22:05:00] | emilylove: | mythsetup used to freeze when it was gant |
| [22:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [22:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i had that problem |
| [22:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but only with gant |
| [22:06:00] | emilylove: | but I changed to blue and it worked, but now it isn't working again |
| [22:06:00] | JohnnyQuest: | with blue, mythsetup wouldnt freeze for me |
| [22:06:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i dunno what to tell you... |
| [22:06:00] | emilylove: | well at least its running lol thats better than its been... |
| [22:06:00] | emilylove: | what video card are you using? |
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| [22:08:00] | emilylove: | ya it just froze up in mythfrontend when I went into the general tv settings |
| [22:08:00] | JohnnyQuest: | thats wierd, id ont know much about myth... |
| [22:08:00] | emilylove: | this is like the most madenning thing to troubleshoot because theres no error message AND I have to reboot every time |
| [22:08:00] | JohnnyQuest: | you dont have to reboot |
| [22:08:00] | emilylove: | yes I do |
| [22:09:00] | emilylove: | keyboard locks up |
| [22:09:00] | JohnnyQuest: | o wow |
| [22:09:00] | emilylove: | ya its like dead dead |
| [22:09:00] | JohnnyQuest: | hardware problem or outdated bios? |
| [22:09:00] | mocker: | emilylove: Can you ssh in from another server? |
| [22:09:00] | emilylove: | oooooo good idea mocker |
| [22:09:00] | emilylove: | I'll try that |
| [22:09:00] | emilylove: | *slaps herself* |
| [22:10:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [22:10:00] | emilylove: | ssh in to kill the process? how do you figure out what the pid is? I know...a pretty newbie question... |
| [22:11:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i dont know it.. |
| [22:11:00] | JohnnyQuest: | but ima noob |
| [22:11:00] | crash-x: | herself, a girl that uses linux? |
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| [22:11:00] | JohnnyQuest: | a girl that uses a computer? |
| [22:11:00] | emilylove: | whats wrong with girls using linux? |
| [22:12:00] | crash-x: | pidof mythbackend or frontend or whatever you want to kill |
| [22:12:00] | JohnnyQuest: | my girlfriend thinks computers are evil |
| [22:12:00] | crash-x: | lol JohnnyQuest |
| [22:12:00] | emilylove: | ha ha computers ARE evil |
| [22:12:00] | crash-x: | emilylove: you are the 3rd i know |
| [22:12:00] | crash-x: | ;) |
| [22:12:00] | stoffel: | lol crash-x |
| [22:12:00] | crash-x: | ;) |
| [22:12:00] | JohnnyQuest: | my gf has me help her with word... |
| [22:12:00] | emilylove: | well at least when they crash they are evil |
| [22:12:00] | emilylove: | they are cool when they work |
| [22:12:00] | emilylove: | ouch Johnny thats pretty bad |
| [22:12:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [22:13:00] | JohnnyQuest: | she cant figure out tabbing... |
| [22:13:00] | crash-x: | heh |
| [22:13:00] | JohnnyQuest: | or bullets, or autoformating |
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| [22:16:00] | emilylove: | bah |
| [22:17:00] | JohnnyQuest: | crash? |
| [22:17:00] | emilylove: | ya |
| [22:17:00] | emilylove: | anyway...I think it was a corrupt theme..it worked fine when I changed the theme *shrug* |
| [22:17:00] | JohnnyQuest: | are your bios up to date? |
| [22:17:00] | JohnnyQuest: | you mean you changed the theme again.. |
| [22:17:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and ti works? |
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| [22:20:00] | jonK: | that's no suprise microsoft has been unable to figure out tabbing bullets or numbering |
| [22:20:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [22:20:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i figured it out.. |
| [22:21:00] | JohnnyQuest: | while using microsoft.. |
| [22:21:00] | jonK: | Until word has a "reveal codes" section, i will never think of it as anyting but a second rate piece of crap |
| [22:21:00] | JohnnyQuest: | what do you use? |
| [22:21:00] | jonK: | wordperfect at home, word in the office |
| [22:21:00] | JohnnyQuest: | wordperfect? |
| [22:21:00] | JohnnyQuest: | what is that/ |
| [22:21:00] | jonK: | lol |
| [22:21:00] | jonK: | kids these dayx |
| [22:21:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya.. |
| [22:22:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i use wordpad sometimes.. |
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| [22:22:00] | jonK: | openoffice getting fairly mature |
| [22:22:00] | JohnnyQuest: | is that what wordperfect is? |
| [22:22:00] | JohnnyQuest: | is openoffice? |
| [22:23:00] | jonK: | no, wordperfect is the original mass market wordprocessor |
| [22:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | o ok |
| [22:23:00] | jonK: | word copied wordperfect |
| [22:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i always have had word |
| [22:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | even on my macs |
| [22:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | bac on os 6 |
| [22:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | back* |
| [22:23:00] | jonK: | then wordperfect was bought by corel and went to shit for years |
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| [22:23:00] | crash-x: | word was first for mac and then they ported it to windows ;D |
| [22:23:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i remember corel stuff, it was shit.. |
| [22:23:00] | jonK: | there is new versions of wordperfect available |
| [22:23:00] | jonK: | you can buy oem versions for about 30 bucks |
| [22:24:00] | JohnnyQuest: | of wordperfect? |
| [22:24:00] | jonK: | great piece of software |
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| [22:24:00] | jonK: | yes |
| [22:24:00] | JohnnyQuest: | does it actually iknow how to spell check and grammar check? |
| [22:24:00] | crash-x: | jonK: is it compatible to ms word? |
| [22:24:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya, thats another issue.. |
| [22:24:00] | crash-x: | if not, then its useless |
| [22:24:00] | Beirdo: | WTF? |
| [22:24:00] | crash-x: | the world uses damn ms |
| [22:24:00] | crash-x: | software |
| [22:24:00] | jonK: | MS uses file formats to block people |
| [22:25:00] | crash-x: | yup |
| [22:25:00] | jonK: | they claim the're going to use an open XML format, but I'll believe it when I see it |
| [22:25:00] | ** Beirdo wonders what ever happened to even a hint of mythtv? ** | |
| [22:25:00] | laga: | JohnnyQuest: well, the not-so-degenerate people prefer to use their brain to do the grammar checks ;) |
| [22:25:00] | jonK: | Beirdo you need soem help with mythtv? |
| [22:25:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [22:25:00] | jonK: | did you have a question/ |
| [22:25:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:25:00] | crash-x: | lol laga |
| [22:25:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i prefer to have the computer do it |
| [22:25:00] | JohnnyQuest: | actually |
| [22:25:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, I have a question |
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| [22:25:00] | jonK: | uh oh... |
| [22:25:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i dont proofread my papers |
| [22:25:00] | Beirdo: | WTF are you guys on? :) |
| [22:25:00] | ** jonK hides ** | |
| [22:25:00] | JohnnyQuest: | weed |
| [22:26:00] | laga: | <- water. |
| [22:26:00] | ** Beirdo passes JohnnyQuest a bag of cheetos ** | |
| [22:26:00] | ** JohnnyQuest inhales them ** | |
| [22:26:00] | ** laga brb, gotta inhale, too ** | |
| [22:26:00] | jonK: | wordperfect actually does very good job of import/export to word |
| [22:27:00] | jonK: | used wordperfect at old firm |
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| [22:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | thats good, i have to go to class now |
| [22:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i hate physics class |
| [22:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | soooo boring |
| [22:27:00] | jonK: | are you kidding me |
| [22:27:00] | jonK: | >?!>! |
| [22:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i dont mind physics |
| [22:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | just the class |
| [22:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | my teacher... |
| [22:27:00] | JohnnyQuest: | he is pretty boring |
| [22:27:00] | jonK: | start calculating what amount of force would be applied to your teacher if you engaged in activity X |
| [22:28:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [22:28:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i just do my hw in class |
| [22:28:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and i dont listen to him |
| [22:28:00] | JohnnyQuest: | he is absolutely horrible at explaining it |
| [22:28:00] | jonK: | so Beirdo, what's your mythtv question? |
| [22:28:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it was what are we on |
| [22:28:00] | emilylove: | dammit... |
| [22:28:00] | JohnnyQuest: | my cat is trying to go fishing in my fish tank right now, but he keeps not liking the water... |
| [22:28:00] | emilylove: | froze again |
| [22:29:00] | jonK: | I have one... anyone get lirc working with an ipaq PDA? |
| [22:29:00] | emilylove: | shoulda grabbed the @#%#@ IP off of it first... |
| [22:29:00] | jonK: | i'd like to write a frontend control application for the ipaq that can access mythconverg |
| [22:30:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im off to class |
| [22:30:00] | JohnnyQuest: | bye bye |
| [22:30:00] | emilylove: | bye johnny |
| [22:30:00] | jonK: | emily, what problem are you having? |
| [22:31:00] | emilylove: | mythtv freezing... |
| [22:31:00] | jonK: | when you do x? |
| [22:31:00] | jonK: | (please fill in) |
| [22:31:00] | emilylove: | oh, its within either mythtv or mythtvsetup |
| [22:31:00] | jonK: | freezing that you have to kill the process, or freezing that you have to reboot |
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| [22:31:00] | crash-x: | emilylove: its just because a girl trys to use a computer |
| [22:31:00] | crash-x: | ;) |
| [22:31:00] | emilylove: | ha ha |
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| [22:32:00] | emilylove: | its like the themes are getting corrupted |
| [22:32:00] | emilylove: | it will work for awhile with a new theme and then it will stop working and I'll have to pick a new theme |
| [22:36:00] | emilylove: | ok its frozen again...I can't kill the process cause its all locked up ..im gonna try sshing in |
| [22:37:00] | crash-x: | damn i want a girlfriend that can use ssh |
| [22:37:00] | crash-x: | :/ |
| [22:37:00] | emilylove: | :-) |
| [22:37:00] | crash-x: | but most girls cant even spell ssh i guess |
| [22:37:00] | crash-x: | :( |
| [22:37:00] | laga: | damn i want a girlfriend :> |
| [22:37:00] | emilylove: | well SSH isn't working |
| [22:37:00] | emilylove: | ha ha |
| [22:37:00] | emilylove: | well reboot time |
| [22:38:00] | xris: | laga: come to the US. girls dig accents. |
| [22:38:00] | crash-x: | oh sorry emilylove, since ssh isnt workking you cant be my girlfriend ;)) |
| [22:38:00] | emilylove: | *swoon* |
| [22:38:00] | jonK: | then ssh in twice run mythfrontend from one shell and mythbackend from the other |
| [22:38:00] | xris: | haven't you seen "Love Actually"? |
| [22:38:00] | laga: | xris: even my german has a strange accent, it doesn't work :> |
| [22:38:00] | laga: | xris: nope |
| [22:38:00] | laga: | emilylove: i'm pity. |
| [22:38:00] | emilylove: | at the screen where it says "do you want to reset your preferences" in mythtvsetup ...thats where it seems to freeze the most...the buttons become one grey blob |
| [22:38:00] | xris: | laga: most americans can't tell the difference. an accent is an accent. |
| [22:38:00] | crash-x: | lol laga arent oyu german? |
| [22:38:00] | jonK: | oh wait you're not even that far |
| [22:38:00] | CyberKnet: | Go to australia for a few months, then go to the USA. USA chicks really love an australian accent. |
| [22:38:00] | xris: | unless you're me when I had my spanish accent. spanish accent on a blond guy is just weird. |
| [22:39:00] | CyberKnet: | they go crazy for it. |
| [22:39:00] | laga: | crash-x: i am – i was referring to our dialect, mei bub. |
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| [22:39:00] | CyberKnet: | so long as you hide your sheep habit. |
| [22:39:00] | crash-x: | ah i seee |
| [22:39:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: you have one of the "preferred" accents, though. |
| [22:39:00] | emilylove: | any of you guys have a pic? online? |
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| [22:39:00] | xris: | aussie is just sexy, on men or women. |
| [22:39:00] | Beirdo: | xris: I'll have to learn some Spanish |
| [22:39:00] | crash-x: | emilylove: where are you from? |
| [22:39:00] | emilylove: | Washington State |
| [22:39:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: i'm afraid you're in the minority with your sheep 'habit' anyways |
| [22:39:00] | Beirdo: | emilylove: many of us do |
| [22:39:00] | xris: | Beirdo: yes, esp. given that you're courting a girl in a spanish speaking country. |
| [22:39:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: I so do not want to think about you thinking men's australian accents are sexy... |
| [22:39:00] | emilylove: | can I see? :-) |
| [22:39:00] | crash-x: | ok then it would senseless to send a pic ;) |
| [22:39:00] | Beirdo: | xris: aye |
| [22:40:00] | xris: | emilylove: which city? |
| [22:40:00] | laga: | Beirdo: spanish is quite easy |
| [22:40:00] | emilylove: | you can see mine if you wanted, but if its senseleless then I won't tell you where to go ha ha |
| [22:40:00] | emilylove: | Spokane |
| [22:40:00] | xris: | CyberKnet: I didn't say that *I* find them sexy... but in general, most americans tend to think tht way. |
| [22:40:00] | Beirdo: | my picture (old one) can be found on my webpage |
| [22:40:00] | crash-x: | lol emilylove |
| [22:40:00] | xris: | emilylove: wrong side of the state... heh. (there are a handful of us in seattle) |
| [22:40:00] | CyberKnet: | xris: hah =) |
| [22:40:00] | Beirdo: | http://www.beirdo.ca/~gjhurlbu/ |
| [22:41:00] | xris: | Beirdo: update your pic. |
| [22:41:00] | Beirdo: | also a bunch of newer pics of me in my pics site |
| [22:41:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [22:41:00] | emilylove: | mines at http://profiles.yahoo.com/emilylove900 |
| [22:41:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [22:41:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:41:00] | laga: | http://www.beirdo.ca/~gjhurlbu/pics/idcard.jpg <- bwahaha. |
| [22:41:00] | Beirdo: | that reminds me, my mom wanted a pic that I use on MSN |
| [22:41:00] | Beirdo: | hmm |
| [22:41:00] | crash-x: | damn you arent even fat |
| [22:41:00] | emilylove: | lol |
| [22:41:00] | crash-x: | i thought girls with linux are always fat |
| [22:41:00] | Beirdo: | Gender: No Answer... |
| [22:41:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [22:42:00] | CyberKnet: | crash-x: Wow. your use of tact astounds me =) |
| [22:42:00] | Beirdo: | Gender: if you can't tell, you're a retard |
| [22:42:00] | crash-x: | lol why CyberKnet ? |
| [22:42:00] | crash-x: | its just fun |
| [22:42:00] | splat1 is now known as splAt1 | |
| [22:42:00] | Beirdo: | now be nice to the girl :) |
| [22:42:00] | crash-x: | hehe ok |
| [22:42:00] | splAt1 is now known as splat1 | |
| [22:42:00] | crash-x: | sorry emily :/ |
| [22:42:00] | Beirdo: | don't be scaring off the women :) |
| [22:42:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [22:43:00] | crash-x: | lol |
| [22:43:00] | laga: | .oO(....today in #mythtv-users: we geeks don't get laid....) |
| [22:43:00] | crash-x: | how old are you emily? |
| [22:43:00] | Beirdo: | laga: except the married ones likely do... |
| [22:43:00] | kormoc: | laga, actually, geeks are the new hottness according to lots of folks, but the geek nerd is in trouble. |
| [22:43:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: I dispute that... I got laid last night. |
| [22:44:00] | laga: | Beirdo: yeah, probably. guess they entered the geek state after getting married. or they're good at hiding things. |
| [22:44:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: obligatory sheep comment |
| [22:44:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: send pixx. |
| [22:44:00] | kormoc: | CyberKnet, laying down doesn't count :P |
| [22:44:00] | emilylove: | ha ha ...sorry I was away for a bit |
| [22:44:00] | emilylove: | 17 |
| [22:44:00] | xris: | wow, not-fat, and cute, too... |
| [22:44:00] | emilylove: | so anyone know how to troubleshoot freezing problems |
| [22:44:00] | CyberKnet: | hah! |
| [22:44:00] | emilylove: | *blush* |
| [22:44:00] | kormoc: | you look older in that picture. |
| [22:44:00] | ** xris digs around for pictures. ** | |
| [22:44:00] | emilylove: | thank you xris |
| [22:44:00] | crash-x: | xris: exactly what i though too |
| [22:44:00] | emilylove: | oh? how old do I look? |
| [22:44:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: I *am* married you know... heh. |
| [22:44:00] | Chutt: | ah, irc |
| [22:44:00] | Chutt: | where the men are men, and so are half the women |
| [22:45:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: there's one on my webpage. |
| [22:45:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, I'd have assumed around 20ish to 22ish. |
| [22:45:00] | Beirdo: | OK, no trying to pick up the chicks :) |
| [22:45:00] | kormoc: | CyberKnet, so? laying down still doesn't count, even if it's next to a lady :P |
| [22:45:00] | xris: | I have so few pictures of myself... the few times my wife has the camera, she points it at the cats instead of me. |
| [22:45:00] | Beirdo: | emilylove: what are the conditions when things freeze? |
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| [22:45:00] | crash-x: | lol |
| [22:45:00] | emilylove: | oh wow..thats cool |
| [22:45:00] | emilylove: | the conditions are that its all screwed..I can't do anything |
| [22:45:00] | emilylove: | I can't even ssh in |
| [22:45:00] | emilylove: | its like toasted |
| [22:45:00] | Beirdo: | xris: you have the pics from your trip, no? |
| [22:45:00] | emilylove: | has to reboot |
| [22:45:00] | xris: | oh, and pics are all out of date, given that I cut off my hair a few weeks ago |
| [22:46:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: and the url is...? |
| [22:46:00] | crash-x: | |
| [22:46:00] | crash-x: | ? |
| [22:46:00] | Beirdo: | no, I mean what are you doing, etc... |
| [22:46:00] | xris: | oh yeah, bad pics. |
| [22:46:00] | emilylove: | everything |
| [22:46:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: oh come on... |
| [22:46:00] | crash-x: | hmm |
| [22:46:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: google a little, huh? |
| [22:46:00] | emilylove: | wait |
| [22:46:00] | Beirdo: | xris: you didn't cut it more, did ya? |
| [22:46:00] | crash-x: | then its probably not myth's problem but something else |
| [22:46:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, when you are watching live tv? recorded tv? deleteing a recording? randomly? |
| [22:46:00] | emilylove: | myth is the only thing that freezes, but when it freezes everything does |
| [22:46:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: naw. ;) |
| [22:46:00] | xris: | Beirdo: no, but waist-length to "business long" is enough. |
| [22:46:00] | emilylove: | it does it in menus and it seems to be random |
| [22:46:00] | kormoc: | crash-x, could be a issue with video/sound |
| [22:46:00] | xris: | here's some me pics: http://forevermore.net/san_juans/ |
| [22:47:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, true, dude. |
| [22:47:00] | crash-x: | yeah kormoc thought so it |
| [22:47:00] | crash-x: | something with drivers |
| [22:47:00] | ** stoffel notices a _lot_ of friendlyness towards newbies today ** | |
| [22:47:00] | crash-x: | just a program shouldnt freeze everything |
| [22:47:00] | emilylove: | hasn't frozen in "live tv" yet...although I'm not getting anything there but static |
| [22:47:00] | CyberKnet: | well, I have to go. |
| [22:47:00] | laga: | stoffel: they're female.:> |
| [22:47:00] | CyberKnet: | I'm tired, and tired of work. |
| [22:47:00] | kormoc: | stoffel, when they grace us with a cute picture and are friendly and grand, of course :P |
| [22:47:00] | CyberKnet: | adios amigos |
| [22:47:00] | Beirdo: | emilylove: either a driver issue or a realtime priority issue. are you running as root, or as a user? |
| [22:47:00] | xris: | stoffel: we're always friendly when there are girls around. even if they're not into guys. |
| [22:47:00] | xris: | (that'd be SarahEmm, or however she spells her name) |
| [22:47:00] | crash-x: | "what is root?" |
| [22:47:00] | crash-x: | :D |
| [22:48:00] | stoffel: | hehe |
| [22:48:00] | crash-x: | sorry i do it again |
| [22:48:00] | crash-x: | :( |
| [22:48:00] | ** Beirdo slaps crash-x with a trout ** | |
| [22:48:00] | Beirdo: | behave |
| [22:48:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [22:48:00] | emilylove: | im running as mythtv user |
| [22:48:00] | crash-x: | lol |
| [22:48:00] | Beirdo: | OK, is it running suid root? |
| [22:48:00] | crash-x: | what system at all emilylove ? |
| [22:49:00] | emilylove: | what system at all? |
| [22:49:00] | emilylove: | its running or FC3... |
| [22:49:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: no "root" comments, Aussie :) |
| [22:49:00] | emilylove: | or rather, failing to run... |
| [22:49:00] | stoffel: | Beirdo: i'm shocked, didn't expect RMS to be with us |
| [22:49:00] | crash-x: | emilylove: what does ls -l /usr/bin/mythbackend say? |
| [22:49:00] | Beirdo: | Hmm, I wonder... if xvmc is configured, but you aren't using it, that could cause issues |
| [22:49:00] | emilylove: | xvmc? |
| [22:49:00] | Beirdo: | stoffel: hmm? |
| [22:49:00] | laga: | heh. the hostname of my wrt54g is 'rooter' because we can never agreee on the pronounciation here. ;) |
| [22:50:00] | stoffel: | Beirdo: idcard.jpg |
| [22:50:00] | Beirdo: | stoffel: hehe, yeah, I know |
| [22:50:00] | emilylove: | no such file or folder :-) he he |
| [22:50:00] | Beirdo: | xvmc is an option used for some nvidia cards |
| [22:50:00] | crash-x: | hmm |
| [22:50:00] | GeckoFiend: | and epias |
| [22:50:00] | crash-x: | whereis mythbackend |
| [22:50:00] | emilylove: | its in this logrotate.d folder |
| [22:50:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: do you know if the FC3 build has xvmc enabled? |
| [22:51:00] | emilylove: | root root |
| [22:51:00] | GeckoFiend: | and it's safe to compile XvMC support in and not use it. least it hasn't hurt me here |
| [22:51:00] | crash-x: | and the permissions? |
| [22:51:00] | crash-x: | is it suid |
| [22:51:00] | xris: | Beirdo: the spec does by default. nvidia xvmc, that is. |
| [22:51:00] | emilylove: | Hmm how do I check that xvmc stuff..that makes sense..I am running nvidia |
| [22:51:00] | crash-x: | is there an s betweeen rwx... |
| [22:51:00] | Beirdo: | GeckoFiend: I've heard of some peopel with issues with it, especially when not using xvmc capable cards |
| [22:51:00] | hadees: | everyone remember to give money to freenode for their hosting of this great channel |
| [22:51:00] | Beirdo: | emilylove: what video card is in there? |
| [22:51:00] | emilylove: | crashx: the permsssions on it are root root |
| [22:52:00] | Beirdo: | ahh |
| [22:52:00] | emilylove: | Beirdo: geforce fx5700 |
| [22:52:00] | hadees: | http://freenode.net/fundraiser.shtml |
| [22:52:00] | Beirdo: | sorry, missed you saying nvidia above |
| [22:52:00] | crash-x: | na i mean -rwxr-xr-x is there a s ? |
| [22:52:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [22:52:00] | Beirdo: | hadees: blah, we gave at the office |
| [22:52:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [22:52:00] | emilylove: | crash: no..thers no s |
| [22:52:00] | crash-x: | then its not suid |
| [22:53:00] | Beirdo: | oh wait, which mythbackend are you looking at there, emilylove? |
| [22:53:00] | kormoc: | is realtime worth the suid realistically? |
| [22:53:00] | ** xris supports open source software by, well, contributing... ** | |
| [22:53:00] | xris: | my money/time go to other charities. |
| [22:53:00] | emilylove: | im looking at /etc/logrotate.d/mythbackend |
| [22:53:00] | emilylove: | is there another one? |
| [22:53:00] | Beirdo: | the one in /etc/logrotate.d is something else, you should look at /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin, not sure where FC3 puts it |
| [22:53:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [22:54:00] | crash-x: | emilylove: type whereis mythbackend |
| [22:54:00] | crash-x: | what does it say? |
| [22:54:00] | emilylove: | ahhh /usr/bin...ok hold on..ill check again |
| [22:54:00] | Beirdo: | OK :) |
| [22:54:00] | emilylove: | no s's there either |
| [22:54:00] | emilylove: | root root |
| [22:55:00] | crash-x: | i see |
| [22:55:00] | Beirdo: | Hmmm. |
| [22:55:00] | Beirdo: | OK, so it can't really be that. if you're running the backend and the frontend as mythtv, with no suid, the application shouldn't be able to directly mess up the machine |
| [22:56:00] | Beirdo: | sounds like a driver issue somehow |
| [22:56:00] | crash-x: | yep |
| [22:56:00] | emilylove: | could be..but how do you troubleshoot a driver issue? |
| [22:56:00] | Beirdo: | what TV capture card, first off? |
| [22:56:00] | Beirdo: | you may have said, but I missed it |
| [22:57:00] | emilylove: | ATI TV wonder |
| [22:57:00] | emilylove: | I know..everyone go ahead and laugh at me ...I hear they suck |
| [22:57:00] | crash-x: | emilylove: do you have more pics? |
| [22:57:00] | Beirdo: | OK, that's a bttv... |
| [22:57:00] | emilylove: | but it was cheap |
| [22:57:00] | emilylove: | no, sorry crash |
| [22:57:00] | Beirdo: | crash-x: you behave :) |
| [22:57:00] | crash-x: | lol |
| [22:57:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v GeckoFiend | |
| [22:57:00] | crash-x: | :/ |
| [22:58:00] | laga: | darn, my testosterone counter just blew up |
| [22:58:00] | Beirdo: | I haven't heard of many lockup issues with bttv |
| [22:58:00] | emilylove: | lol |
| [22:58:00] | emilylove: | hmm |
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| [22:58:00] | crash-x: | why laga |
| [22:58:00] | emilylove: | well, I'm wondering if it is my nvidia driver |
| [22:58:00] | Beirdo: | that could be |
| [22:58:00] | laga: | crash-x: heh |
| [22:58:00] | crash-x: | do you use the nvidia driver? |
| [22:58:00] | emilylove: | I installed the one from the website... |
| [22:58:00] | emilylove: | it locked up xwindows when I used it so I reverted to an old xorg.conf |
| [22:58:00] | Beirdo: | that's another option. I don't use nvidia at this point, so I can't really give pointers on the best version to use, etc |
| [22:58:00] | emilylove: | xwindows has worked fine ever since |
| [22:59:00] | crash-x: | emilylove: when x starts does it show the nvidia logo? |
| [22:59:00] | emilylove: | not any more, but it used to |
| [22:59:00] | emilylove: | once I reverted back it stopped |
| [22:59:00] | Beirdo: | OK, I think we have it tracked down to the culprit |
| [22:59:00] | emilylove: | I just switched it back to the nvidia driver again so we'll see |
| [22:59:00] | crash-x: | does myth crash since it doesnt show the logo? |
| [22:59:00] | GeckoFiend: | emilylove heh the open source drivers are not going to work for video playback |
| [22:59:00] | Beirdo: | how to fix it, I dunno |
| [22:59:00] | emilylove: | ok its showing it again |
| [23:00:00] | emilylove: | well its not freezing on playback, just in menus |
| [23:00:00] | crash-x: | crazy |
| [23:00:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, anything odd in dmesg? |
| [23:00:00] | emilylove: | we'll see if it locks up |
| [23:00:00] | emilylove: | dmesg? |
| [23:00:00] | emilylove: | in the logs? |
| [23:00:00] | crash-x: | just type dmesg |
| [23:00:00] | crash-x: | and enter |
| [23:00:00] | crash-x: | ;) |
| [23:00:00] | emilylove: | ok |
| [23:01:00] | emilylove: | nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel |
| [23:01:00] | crash-x: | damn star wars 1 sucks |
| [23:01:00] | emilylove: | what does that mean?> |
| [23:01:00] | crash-x: | that are some license things afaik |
| [23:01:00] | emilylove: | ok, there it goes again freezing |
| [23:02:00] | emilylove: | now just in KDE |
| [23:02:00] | GeckoFiend: | emilylove it means you're using a closed source driver is all. |
| [23:02:00] | emilylove: | it never freezes at the login screen, just in the desktop |
| [23:02:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, what's your videocard? |
| [23:02:00] | crash-x: | hmm |
| [23:02:00] | emilylove: | FX5700 |
| [23:02:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, what's your xorg version? and can you post the xorg config somewhere for us to glance at? |
| [23:03:00] | crash-x: | http://rafb.net/paste/ there for example |
| [23:03:00] | emilylove: | ok im going there now |
| [23:05:00] | emilylove: | stupid...hold on a sec |
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| [23:06:00] | emilylove: | rather than waste all your time while I look it up..is there a linux equivelant to the dos "type" command? |
| [23:06:00] | SteveHolt: | cat |
| [23:07:00] | emilylove: | thankx |
| [23:07:00] | xris: | man, shows what I know of dos. I figured it'd be `file` |
| [23:07:00] | emilylove: | heh |
| [23:07:00] | SteveHolt: | wasted youth |
| [23:08:00] | xris: | it's safer to use `less` than `cat`, though... unless you KNOW you have a text file. |
| [23:08:00] | xris: | SteveHolt: I was a mac user. |
| [23:08:00] | crash-x: | and now you arent? |
| [23:08:00] | xris: | mainly, I use linux. |
| [23:08:00] | crash-x: | why |
| [23:08:00] | crash-x: | os x rocks |
| [23:08:00] | emilylove: | bah..I think my browser is crapping out now...this sucks |
| [23:08:00] | xris: | well, osx doesn't run on my athlon box. |
| [23:09:00] | kormoc: | (yet) |
| [23:09:00] | emilylove: | stupid windows... |
| [23:09:00] | crash-x: | maybe in futer |
| [23:09:00] | emilylove: | um..hmmm |
| [23:09:00] | crash-x: | emilylove: now i love you! |
| [23:09:00] | xris: | and the imac dv on my desk at home is WAY too slow to use, and has a tiny 15" screen. |
| [23:09:00] | Beirdo: | size isn't everything, xris |
| [23:09:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:09:00] | crash-x: | lol i have 12" powerbook |
| [23:09:00] | crash-x: | with expose its enough |
| [23:09:00] | ** kormoc wants a 12" powerbook ** | |
| [23:09:00] | Beirdo: | I have a 12" iBook |
| [23:09:00] | xris: | I also don't like osx as an interface. |
| [23:09:00] | crash-x: | i love os x |
| [23:09:00] | crash-x: | linux is ugly |
| [23:09:00] | crash-x: | :) |
| [23:10:00] | Beirdo: | OS 9 purist |
| [23:10:00] | xris: | it's great for normal users, but I tend to way overuse my window managers. |
| [23:10:00] | ** kormoc won't get a mac till at least next year tho ** | |
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| [23:10:00] | ** xris runs 4 virtual desktops. ** | |
| [23:10:00] | crash-x: | desktop manager sucks |
| [23:10:00] | crash-x: | i used to use it |
| [23:10:00] | xris: | s/4/8/ |
| [23:10:00] | laga: | os x doesnt do virtual desktops? |
| [23:10:00] | crash-x: | i loved that change effect |
| [23:10:00] | kormoc: | sure does |
| [23:10:00] | Beirdo: | I love expose |
| [23:10:00] | crash-x: | laga: you can install programs that do |
| [23:10:00] | xris: | laga: it can, but expose sort of makes it meaningless. |
| [23:10:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [23:10:00] | crash-x: | yeah |
| [23:10:00] | laga: | oh, ok. |
| [23:10:00] | Beirdo: | and I always pile my windows on top of each other |
| [23:11:00] | emilylove: | ok I deserve a cookie |
| [23:11:00] | xris: | osx is too mouse-heavy. I hate mice as input devices. |
| [23:11:00] | emilylove: | I pasted it useing lynx he he |
| [23:11:00] | emilylove: | but how do I get the %#@%#@ url from that? |
| [23:11:00] | Beirdo: | emilylove: here have a brownie. |
| [23:11:00] | crash-x: | lol |
| [23:11:00] | Beirdo: | I think \ |
| [23:11:00] | Beirdo: | or = |
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| [23:11:00] | Beirdo: | forget wheich |
| [23:11:00] | Beirdo: | been a Looong time |
| [23:11:00] | xris: | not saying that I'm in love with gnome/kde as interfaces, either. |
| [23:11:00] | Beirdo: | gnome & KDE bite |
| [23:12:00] | Beirdo: | in my opinion |
| [23:12:00] | xris: | I'd probably switch to osx in a heartbeat if I didn't have to buy a mac to do it. |
| [23:12:00] | Beirdo: | I'll take OS X |
| [23:12:00] | crash-x: | fluxbox rocks |
| [23:12:00] | SteveHolt: | emilylove: http://rafb.net/paste/results/qwLHYY23.html |
| [23:12:00] | xris: | flux lacks WAY too many features. |
| [23:12:00] | gavin: | Hi all |
| [23:12:00] | crash-x: | for example xris ? |
| [23:12:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, first thing is, don't load the dri module |
| [23:12:00] | Beirdo: | hey |
| [23:12:00] | Beirdo: | who's masquerading as me? |
| [23:13:00] | xris: | crash-x: been too long, I forget what it lacked that made me dislike it. |
| [23:13:00] | Beirdo: | can't have two Gavins in one place at the same time, it's unheard of |
| [23:13:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [23:13:00] | crash-x: | lol |
| [23:13:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, and remove the DRI section, and see if that'll work then? |
| [23:13:00] | emilylove: | oooh heh thanks Stevehole..tehre you go everyone..thats a link to my xorg.conf |
| [23:13:00] | emilylove: | oh wow..ok.im removnig the DRI module..what is it anyway? |
| [23:13:00] | Beirdo: | gavin: enjoy our name, it's fairly unique :) |
| [23:13:00] | xris: | crash-x: osx gets a lot of stuff right, but it's targeted at the average user, which I am not. |
| [23:14:00] | crash-x: | then i am one |
| [23:14:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, it's a direct rendering interface, but nvidia wrote their own and they are incompatable. |
| [23:14:00] | crash-x: | and i thought im unique :(((( |
| [23:14:00] | Beirdo: | xris is an uberuser |
| [23:14:00] | xris: | Beirdo: no, just a wannabe uber-user |
| [23:14:00] | emilylove: | aparently its not frozen just slower than ...well you know |
| [23:14:00] | ** laga ** | |
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| [23:14:00] | crash-x: | lol laga |
| [23:14:00] | xris: | |
| [23:14:00] | laga: | heh |
| [23:14:00] | crash-x: | uber is the l33t spelling |
| [23:14:00] | laga: | u: |
| [23:14:00] | Beirdo: | laga: my stupid WinXP POS don't do umlauts, live with it |
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| [23:15:00] | laga: | Beirdo: heh |
| [23:15:00] | xris: | lol |
| [23:15:00] | Beirdo: | I know it's supposed to be there |
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| [23:15:00] | laga: | *snicker* |
| [23:15:00] | laga: | |
| [23:15:00] | xris: | Beirdo: hold down alt, and type the hex value of the keycode on the keypad. |
| [23:15:00] | jonK: | oboe is a wind instrument |
| [23:15:00] | Beirdo: | no essette either |
| [23:15:00] | laga: | xris: stop geeking out |
| [23:15:00] | gavin: | Does any experience jutter on hd playback? |
| [23:15:00] | xris: | laga: that's the official way to do it in windows. |
| [23:15:00] | emilylove: | ok changed |
| [23:16:00] | Beirdo: | xris: like I know the damn hex values |
| [23:16:00] | emilylove: | is there a way to restart x without rebooting? |
| [23:16:00] | xris: | Beirdo: exactly |
| [23:16:00] | xris: | emilylove: control-alt-backspace will kill X |
| [23:16:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, it might be that simple, if that doesn't work, we'll need to see your xlog file. |
| [23:16:00] | emilylove: | xris yes but its crashed remember? I can't do anything in it |
| [23:16:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, killall -9 X |
| [23:17:00] | xris: | emilylove: if control-alt-backspace doesn't work, it's usually best to just reboot the system |
| [23:17:00] | emilylove: | ahhh! excellent! |
| [23:17:00] | emilylove: | x is restarting |
| [23:17:00] | crash-x: | so only x is freezing not everything? |
| [23:17:00] | jonK: | elbow is a joint |
| [23:17:00] | Beirdo: | OK, I gotta go |
| [23:17:00] | crash-x: | bye |
| [23:17:00] | ** kormoc waves, have fun Beirdo. ** | |
| [23:17:00] | jonK: | elmo is a puppet |
| [23:17:00] | emilylove: | well its in KDE..the login page doesn't freeze...I'm not sure at which point X actually loads up |
| [23:18:00] | emilylove: | ok it just froze again |
| [23:18:00] | jonK: | emily, do you have any data on this computer? |
| [23:18:00] | kormoc: | okay, let's get your xorg log file |
| [23:18:00] | kormoc: | /var/log/Xorg.log or something similar |
| [23:18:00] | emilylove: | ok kor..hold on |
| [23:18:00] | xris: | Beirdo: do NOT go to the camera store! |
| [23:19:00] | emilylove: | I'm assuming you just want the end....? |
| [23:19:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, might as well post the entire thing |
| [23:19:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, it could be something when the card starts up or it might not be |
| [23:20:00] | emilylove: | oh its only 26k |
| [23:20:00] | emilylove: | ok...let me see here |
| [23:20:00] | jonK: | elmo is also a saint with fire |
| [23:20:00] | jonK: | but I prefer the puppet |
| [23:25:00] | ** j-rod just got back from lunch... ** | |
| [23:25:00] | j-rod: | Beirdo, yeah, FC3 build does have xvmc enabled |
| [23:26:00] | xris: | j-rod: you're on your last week, right? |
| [23:26:00] | j-rod: | yup |
| [23:27:00] | j-rod: | busy doing as little as possible for 2.5 more days... |
| [23:27:00] | xris: | nice |
| [23:27:00] | laga: | tough life |
| [23:27:00] | j-rod: | (actually, been going through my trac tickets. :) |
| [23:27:00] | xris: | heh |
| [23:27:00] | emilylove: | ok how did I end up pasting that text into putty? |
| [23:27:00] | j-rod: | mostly disassembled my workstation yesterday |
| [23:27:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, right clicked? :P |
| [23:27:00] | j-rod: | pulled off all my parts |
| [23:28:00] | j-rod: | (no more Linux on the box) |
| [23:28:00] | emilylove: | crap I gotta go...I'll be back as soon as I can! thanks for all your help guys! |
| [23:28:00] | ** kormoc waves ** | |
| [23:28:00] | kormoc: | gluck with your problem! |
| [23:30:00] | jonK: | j-rod, you can help make my pvr350, pvr500's and hd300 all play nice |
| [23:30:00] | jonK: | :) |
| [23:30:00] | jonK: | who knows thous, maybe it will all just work, out of the box :) |
| [23:30:00] | gavin: | Does any experience jutter on hd playback? |
| [23:32:00] | j-rod: | jonK, I can try... :) |
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| [23:35:00] | MrSpiffy: | Beirdo, is this the right place to ask an nuvexport question? |
| [23:36:00] | emilylove: | ok back! |
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| [23:36:00] | MrSpiffy: | I would like to export to DivX with better wuality. I currently rip dvds with transcode and the quality is excellent. using ffmeg and nuvexport – not so good |
| [23:37:00] | emilylove: | well I can't ssh in anymore (sigh) So I had to reboot |
| [23:37:00] | stoffel: | hey, anyone using the preview image option? new preview images are not scaled correctly here, their width is only 2/3 of what it should be. |
| [23:38:00] | ** laga blames irssi ** | |
| [23:38:00] | MrSpiffy: | beir-do beir-do beir-do |
| [23:38:00] | ** laga slaps MrSpiffy ** | |
| [23:38:00] | fatmatt: | stoffel, I get that, the dvb card stuff thats in widescreen is weird compared to the 4:3 stuff recorded on the analog card |
| [23:39:00] | emilylove: | http://rafb.net/paste/results/cuhLkq54.html |
| [23:39:00] | emilylove: | ok thats the xorg.0.log |
| [23:39:00] | stoffel: | fatmatt: hm, i only have analog cable. all recordings are in 4:3 |
| [23:40:00] | jonK: | mrspiffy: to the tune of rawhide? |
| [23:40:00] | MrSpiffy: | hed em up move em out beir-do? |
| [23:41:00] | fatmatt: | I managed to get my .nuv / rtjpeg files to play, in windows of all things |
| [23:42:00] | fatmatt: | someones written codecs/plugins for windows media that plays nuv |
| [23:44:00] | xris: | fatmatt: dsmyth.sf.net |
| [23:44:00] | xris: | been around for ages |
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| [23:45:00] | emilylove: | anyone see anything funk in there? |
| [23:45:00] | emilylove: | funky even |
| [23:45:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, the (WW) NVIDIA(0): WAIT is bad. |
| [23:45:00] | jonK: | in where? |
| [23:45:00] | jonK: | there above-- see link now |
| [23:45:00] | emilylove: | haha ya I figured that..but I have no idea what It means... |
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| [23:46:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, quick google seems to indicate it could be refresh rate caused |
| [23:46:00] | emilylove: | hmmm |
| [23:46:00] | emilylove: | so lower the refresh rate in xorg.conf? |
| [23:47:00] | kormoc: | emilylove, the other option would be to drop the agp bus to 2x from 4x or 4x from 8x |
| [23:47:00] | ** kormoc ndos ** | |
| [23:47:00] | emilylove: | ahhh THAT makes sense kormac..Its an old machine... |
| [23:47:00] | emilylove: | I wouldn't be surprised if it only had 2x |
| [23:48:00] | kormoc: | cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status will show you what agp speed it's currently running at |
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| [23:48:00] | fatmatt: | kormoc: how do you drop the agp bus speed down? |
| [23:48:00] | emilylove: | 4x |
| [23:49:00] | emilylove: | how do you slow it? |
| [23:49:00] | kormoc: | ReqAGPRate=2 iirc |
| [23:49:00] | kormoc: | as a module param |
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| [23:50:00] | kormoc: | or if you can set the speed down in the bios, that might work as well |
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| [23:50:00] | fatmatt: | kormoc: while we're on the subject of agp ... |
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| [23:51:00] | fatmatt: | kormoc: I get this in dmesg, "agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 16x mode" but cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status shows ag is 4x |
| [23:51:00] | fatmatt: | everything work, but it's been bugging me for a while |
| [23:52:00] | kormoc: | I've never used agpgart, so I wouldn't really know :/ |
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| [23:53:00] | fatmatt: | do you know what it does? do I need it? |
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| [23:53:00] | kormoc: | there's two types of agp drivers right now, agpgart is a open source agp driver, and nvidia has their own, nvagp |
| [23:53:00] | kormoc: | I perfer nvagp, which comes with the nvidia driver |
| [23:53:00] | kormoc: | others perfer agpgart |
| [23:54:00] | kormoc: | so no, you don't need it |
| [23:54:00] | kormoc: | you can use nvidia's fine |
| [23:54:00] | jonK: | for open source "purity" reasons or does one perform better than the other? |
| [23:54:00] | fatmatt: | I'm running the nvidia drivers, they both coexist happily? |
| [23:55:00] | kormoc: | jonK, depends on the chipset, some chipsets (nvidia's) nvagp performs better, others (via's) nvagp sucks for. |
| [23:55:00] | kormoc: | fatmatt, they can coexist happily, indeed. |
| [23:55:00] | kormoc: | fatmatt, to use nvagp, compile out agpgart from your kernel and the nvidia driver will use nvagp automatically. |
| [23:56:00] | jonK: | if I sign up for LxM, how do I use it? |
| [23:56:00] | fatmatt: | kormoc: thanks, I'll try that next time I compile, see if theres a difference |
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