| Monday, June 20th, 2005, 17:22 UTC | ||
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| [17:23:00] | Beirdo: | OK, that's fixed |
| [17:23:00] | Rince: | Hi Beirdo ;) |
| [17:23:00] | Rince: | Beirdo: does your ticketsystem work again? I got some errors this morning... |
| [17:23:00] | MrChook_: | JohnnyQyest: what does "ls /dev/video* | wc -l " give ? |
| [17:23:00] | Beirdo: | I dunno, I haven't looked at it yet today |
| [17:24:00] | Rince: | ok |
| [17:24:00] | JohnnyQyest: | 3 |
| [17:24:00] | Beirdo: | looks working to me |
| [17:24:00] | jonK: | mrchok he has video24, 32, and video4linux |
| [17:24:00] | JohnnyQyest: | ya |
| [17:25:00] | MrChook_: | JohnnyQyest: "cd /dev; ./MAKDEV video" |
| [17:25:00] | MrChook_: | dunno why they would be missing though |
| [17:25:00] | jvs: | hmm |
| [17:25:00] | MrChook_: | erm, MAKEDEV |
| [17:25:00] | Beirdo: | and xris' looks working too |
| [17:25:00] | JohnnyQyest: | ok |
| [17:25:00] | JohnnyQyest: | now what? |
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| [17:26:00] | MrChook_: | now /dev/video0 should be there |
| [17:26:00] | Beirdo: | Ahoy! |
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| [17:26:00] | JohnnyQyest: | yep |
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| [17:26:00] | MrChook_: | and now everything should Just Work |
| [17:26:00] | MrChook_: | but I bet it doesn't 8^) |
| [17:26:00] | JohnnyQyest: | along with 77 other videos now.. |
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| [17:27:00] | MrChook_: | sounds about right |
| [17:27:00] | MrChook_: | might need to fix the permissions on the ones you need to use if you arne't running as root |
| [17:27:00] | m4lu7: | Anybody gotta line on prebuilt all-in-wonder(tm) HTPC boxen? |
| [17:27:00] | JohnnyQyest: | its working.. |
| [17:27:00] | JohnnyQyest: | somewhat |
| [17:27:00] | jonK: | which should only be /dev/video0 shouldnt it? |
| [17:27:00] | JohnnyQyest: | but now i get a picture |
| [17:28:00] | ** MrChook_ shrugs ** | |
| [17:28:00] | JohnnyQyest: | ty |
| [17:28:00] | JohnnyQyest: | now i have ohter problems to fix.. |
| [17:28:00] | ** rjune is away: stepped outside, if you need me, call my cell, if you don't know my cell #, you don't need me ** | |
| [17:28:00] | jonK: | what's it doing |
| [17:28:00] | JohnnyQyest: | it plays for like 2 seconds and then it stops |
| [17:28:00] | JohnnyQyest: | ill see what mythfrontend says |
| [17:29:00] | JohnnyQyest: | ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/lib/qt-3.3/include/qvaluelist.h (373) |
| [17:29:00] | JohnnyQyest: | 2005-06–20 11:28:48.001 WriteStringList: Bad socket |
| [17:29:00] | JohnnyQyest: | 2005-06–20 11:28:48.001 ReadStringList: Bad socket |
| [17:29:00] | JohnnyQyest: | Remote encoder not responding. |
| [17:29:00] | JohnnyQyest: | that over and over |
| [17:29:00] | jonK: | you did have a line in dmseg about a buggy firmware version, you might double check |
| [17:29:00] | jonK: | which firmware version you're using |
| [17:29:00] | JohnnyQyest: | how do i check taht? |
| [17:29:00] | jonK: | well, where did you get the firmware |
| [17:29:00] | JohnnyQyest: | apt-get |
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| [17:30:00] | jonK: | go to the ivtv.sourceforge.net site and find the firmware page — it has a list of a bunch of versions, one with three stars |
| [17:30:00] | jonK: | get that one, follow the directions and see if that helps |
| [17:30:00] | JohnnyQyest: | ok |
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| [17:46:00] | JohnnyQyest: | i cant figure out how to uninstall my firmware to get the older version |
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| [17:48:00] | travolta: | johnny |
| [17:48:00] | travolta: | kill the mythbackend and restart it |
| [17:48:00] | jonK: | johnny, just delete the two files ivtv-fw-enc and dec |
| [17:49:00] | JohnnyQyest: | ok |
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| [17:50:00] | JohnnyQyest: | do i remove HcwMakoA.rom |
| [17:50:00] | JohnnyQyest: | also? |
| [17:50:00] | jonK: | no |
| [17:51:00] | JohnnyQyest: | ok |
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| [17:53:00] | JohnnyQyest: | what do i do with the .exe file? how do i open it? |
| [17:53:00] | jonK: | did you read the instructions on the ivtv site? |
| [17:53:00] | ** Beirdo chuckles ** | |
| [17:53:00] | Beirdo: | slap him with RTFM, you know you wanna |
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| [17:53:00] | JohnnyQyest: | i couldnt find them, i read this page http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-index.php?page=PV . . . h+kernel+2.4 |
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| [17:53:00] | JohnnyQyest: | whoops |
| [17:53:00] | JohnnyQyest: | wrong page |
| [17:54:00] | JohnnyQyest: | http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-index.php?page=FirmwareVersions |
| [17:54:00] | JohnnyQyest: | that page |
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| [17:54:00] | travolta: | when i start mythfrontend between windowed and full screen mode, it always does that "prescalling ..." stuff, can i make it cahce that stuff? |
| [17:55:00] | jonK: | JohnnyQyest: from ivtv.sourceforget.net wiki --> firmware --> extracting the firmware |
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| [17:57:00] | ** Jouster sets mode +question. ** | |
| [17:58:00] | Jouster: | Anyone familiar with the ADS Tech DVDExpress? It's the Cirrus Logic USB-PVR 8.0 reference design PCB stuffed in an ADS-stamped bit of thermoplastic. |
| [17:58:00] | ** rjune is back ** | |
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| [18:05:00] | JohnnyQyest: | i extracted the firmware |
| [18:06:00] | jonK: | woot! |
| [18:06:00] | jonK: | ivtvfwextract.pl? |
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| [18:07:00] | JohnnyQyest: | ya |
| [18:07:00] | JohnnyQyest: | i ran that |
| [18:07:00] | JohnnyQyest: | and got it to work |
| [18:07:00] | jonK: | good |
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| [18:07:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [18:07:00] | jonK: | now you need to reload the modules, |
| [18:07:00] | jonK: | easy way — reboot |
| [18:07:00] | JohnnyQyest: | ok |
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| [18:09:00] | Jouster: | Further investigation reveals the DVDXpress is a dud under Linux. Any hints on a WalMart-buyable unit? |
| [18:17:00] | ** xris kicks yum for being overly verbose ** | |
| [18:18:00] | jonK: | xris you have a minute for a question? |
| [18:18:00] | ** Beirdo kicks yum for existing ** | |
| [18:18:00] | Beirdo: | Good morning, xris |
| [18:18:00] | xris: | I can't get apt to work in fc4 |
| [18:19:00] | Beirdo: | see there's the problem :) |
| [18:19:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:19:00] | xris: | the new yum looks nice, but I can't get just a list of searched packages, it returns the whole info record. |
| [18:19:00] | rjune: | xris: wrong channel |
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| [18:19:00] | ** xris slaps /me ** | |
| [18:19:00] | rjune: | xris: what is it you want? |
| [18:19:00] | Beirdo: | how lovely |
| [18:19:00] | xris: | jonK: sure, what's up. |
| [18:19:00] | rjune: | Beirdo: genpoo? |
| [18:19:00] | Beirdo: | FC4 should FOAD |
| [18:19:00] | xris: | rjune: ubuntu |
| [18:19:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:19:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [18:19:00] | rjune: | xris: what is it you want yum to do? |
| [18:19:00] | jonK: | xris: I'm having ghost images in video -- |
| [18:20:00] | Beirdo: | My FC1 boxes are still limping along for now |
| [18:20:00] | jonK: | image of a persons head appears a few CM |
| [18:20:00] | Beirdo: | and that RH8 box is still going... for now |
| [18:20:00] | jonK: | CM's to the right of the actual image |
| [18:20:00] | jonK: | for example |
| [18:20:00] | xris: | I searched the ub package list for things like java and acroread and couldn't find anything. at least big companies occasionally put out rpm's of things. |
| [18:20:00] | xris: | jonK: huh? in watching tv? |
| [18:20:00] | Beirdo: | xris: that's on purpose for licensing reasons |
| [18:20:00] | jonK: | I'm thinking it's most likely the video splitter |
| [18:20:00] | jonK: | yes |
| [18:20:00] | Beirdo: | nothing a little google can't fix for ya |
| [18:21:00] | xris: | rjune: functionality like `apt-cache search` (not to meantion something like "policy") |
| [18:21:00] | xris: | Beirdo: thought those kind of things lived in universe. |
| [18:21:00] | rjune: | xris: I don't know what apt-cache search does |
| [18:21:00] | Beirdo: | most do |
| [18:21:00] | rjune: | xris: yum -C list |
| [18:21:00] | Beirdo: | but some like java are too problematic even for that |
| [18:21:00] | Beirdo: | I'm using kaffee for the logbot, I think |
| [18:22:00] | jonK: | apt-get search [search pattern] searches the package list |
| [18:22:00] | jonK: | err apt-cache search |
| [18:22:00] | Beirdo: | good to know I'm not the only one that mistypes that |
| [18:22:00] | xris: | rjune: that works. I guess it just wants me to type in a full regex.. since "xmms" finds ONLY xmms, not *xmms* |
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| [18:22:00] | rjune: | xris: oh you want that |
| [18:22:00] | rjune: | yum -C list '*xmms*' |
| [18:23:00] | rjune: | though half the time I pipe it to grep |
| [18:23:00] | xris: | oh, nice... so the man page says regex but means file-glob |
| [18:23:00] | dhofstra: | or you could use synaptic search to do the same thing, but any true linux afficianado would prefer apt-cache search |
| [18:23:00] | jonK: | xris: does that make sense? a ghost image in the display showing up |
| [18:23:00] | Beirdo: | nothing like a little Megadeth on Monday morn |
| [18:23:00] | jonK: | due to signal splitting |
| [18:23:00] | rjune: | xris: I dunno, regex might work. you need to put ' around it though so the shell doesn't grab it |
| [18:23:00] | jonK: | (last monday it was metallica) |
| [18:23:00] | xris: | jonK: yeah, but you may have already answered it if you have a video splitter. |
| [18:24:00] | Beirdo: | yup, I think it was. |
| [18:24:00] | xris: | rjune: doesn't work. * works, .* doesn't return results |
| [18:24:00] | jonK: | I do, a 1 to 4 splitter |
| [18:24:00] | rjune: | xris: then apparently the manpage is b0rked |
| [18:24:00] | xris: | rjune: apparently |
| [18:24:00] | jonK: | suggestions? |
| [18:24:00] | xris: | jonK: try it without the splitter? |
| [18:24:00] | dhofstra: | you should amplify the signal before doing a splitter |
| [18:25:00] | jonK: | I have more than 1 tuner card — need to split it at some point |
| [18:25:00] | dhofstra: | (assuming it's cable or broadcast) |
| [18:25:00] | jonK: | cable |
| [18:25:00] | xris: | jonK: to test |
| [18:25:00] | Beirdo: | amplify right at the wall |
| [18:25:00] | jonK: | would radio shack have a signal amp? |
| [18:25:00] | dhofstra: | try without the splitter, and if it is better, then buy an amp |
| [18:25:00] | Chutt: | amplify it before the splitter, and make sure something in the chain's grounded |
| [18:25:00] | Beirdo: | then long cables... then split |
| [18:25:00] | jonK: | split right before box, or just out of wall?? |
| [18:25:00] | dhofstra: | jonk radio shack does have signal amp. I got a cheaper magnavox from menards that works fine also |
| [18:25:00] | Beirdo: | with optional second amp directly before the splitter (or incorporated) |
| [18:25:00] | xris: | Beirdo: no lve in ubuntu, either. |
| [18:26:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm, that can be fixed |
| [18:26:00] | jonK: | I'd love it if it's a problem solveable buy "throw money at it" |
| [18:26:00] | jonK: | there the easiest kind of problems |
| [18:26:00] | Beirdo: | jonK: http://www2.beirdo.ca/~gjhurlbu/files/cable_wiring.png |
| [18:26:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [18:26:00] | Beirdo: | that's how mine is done |
| [18:26:00] | jonK: | gracias |
| [18:26:00] | dhofstra: | my pool installation is being solved by 'throw money at it' to the tune of $1225 |
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| [18:26:00] | Jouster: | Ouch. |
| [18:27:00] | Beirdo: | with the second amp being integrated with the 1:4 splitters |
| [18:27:00] | Jouster: | Any insight on h/w for MythTV? I just want something that'll accept RCA input; there's only one channel that it'll ever record. |
| [18:27:00] | Beirdo: | and between the first amp and the 1:2 splitter is about 40ft of coax |
| [18:27:00] | dhofstra: | you can even buy an inline amp at ratshack that you 'inject' dc power near the tv, and the amplifier could be way out by your house |
| [18:28:00] | Beirdo: | (can you tell I have an engineering background?) |
| [18:28:00] | dhofstra: | http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog . . . 5Fid=15-1170 |
| [18:28:00] | dhofstra: | but you would also need a dc block on all the terminals that didnt lead to the amplifier |
| [18:29:00] | Beirdo: | jonK: also make sure any unused outputs on your splitter are terminated |
| [18:29:00] | Beirdo: | that's a leading cause of crappy split signals |
| [18:29:00] | jonK: | nope all used |
| [18:29:00] | Jouster: | dhofstra: We use those at the wireless ISP I work for. Amp is on a tower, 100 feet over my head, but power comes from the outlet at the base. |
| [18:29:00] | Beirdo: | jonK: gotcha. |
| [18:30:00] | jonK: | for the 1 1:4 splitter, will the +8db be enough, without the prior +10db? |
| [18:30:00] | jonK: | and you've still got a VCR on there? |
| [18:31:00] | jonK: | when was the last time you used that? |
| [18:31:00] | xris: | stupid yum won't control-C, either. |
| [18:31:00] | Beirdo: | the 8dB is built-in, and yes, it should be nominally sufficient |
| [18:31:00] | Beirdo: | depends on the length of your cabling |
| [18:31:00] | jonK: | all short, under 2M |
| [18:31:00] | Beirdo: | as I have 40–50ft of cabling, I'm getting non-negligible loss in the cable |
| [18:32:00] | jonK: | and the vcr use? |
| [18:32:00] | Beirdo: | but yeah, the 1:4 splitter with amp is an integrated unit from Radio Shack |
| [18:32:00] | Beirdo: | I rarely use the VCR, but I wanted it hooked up :) |
| [18:33:00] | jonK: | old megadeath convert bootlegs? |
| [18:33:00] | jonK: | concert |
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| [18:33:00] | ** Beirdo is listening to "The System Has Failed"... loud... on headphones... at work ** | |
| [18:33:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:34:00] | jonK: | nice puffy cloud on the rogers analog cable |
| [18:34:00] | Beirdo: | so I have a net +9dB gain not including cable loss |
| [18:34:00] | Beirdo: | so likely +7dB or so, I could calculate it if I really cared |
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| [18:36:00] | JohnnyQyest: | so now, should everything be wokring Jonk? |
| [18:36:00] | jonK: | have you tried it? |
| [18:37:00] | JohnnyQyest: | ya |
| [18:37:00] | JohnnyQyest: | it didtn work |
| [18:37:00] | jonK: | and? |
| [18:37:00] | JohnnyQyest: | im getting errors in mythfrontend and backend |
| [18:37:00] | jonK: | start with the backend errors |
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| [18:37:00] | jonK: | did you re-modprobe ivtv after restarting? |
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| [18:37:00] | JohnnyQyest: | Channel()::Open(): Can't open video device, error "No such file or directory" |
| [18:37:00] | JohnnyQyest: | no |
| [18:37:00] | JohnnyQyest: | ill try that now |
| [18:37:00] | jonK: | you should probably consider doing so |
| [18:38:00] | jonK: | do it with a second window open |
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| [18:38:00] | jonK: | running tail -f /var/log/messages |
| [18:39:00] | jonK: | then, so it loads on it's own next time type "echo ivtv > /etc/modules |
| [18:39:00] | jonK: | " |
| [18:40:00] | laga: | http://pastebin.ca/15093 <- has anyone ever seen such compile errors? this is a debian sarge box with mdz's patches to make debian packages and levon's dboxII patch. i used to have trouble compiling libmythtv but i got that fixed. |
| [18:40:00] | Jouster: | Okay, perhaps I should ask my question differently.... |
| [18:41:00] | Jouster: | I am an experienced Linux user and developer. I wrote portions of SQUID. I'm a not a clueless user. |
| [18:41:00] | Jouster: | I have read the FAQ. |
| [18:41:00] | Jouster: | I cannot understand what the heck they're talking about when the get into "DVB" cards and the like; I don't want to _BROADCAST_ video; I want to receive it on an RCA jack. |
| [18:42:00] | Jouster: | I just want the functional equivalent of a dumb RCA-to-USB dongle that functions alongside Myth. |
| [18:42:00] | Jouster: | Can anybody help me with that, or at least acknowledge the question? |
| [18:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | Most any capture card will do that. The real question is if you want hardware compression or software compression of the incoming signal |
| [18:43:00] | Jouster: | I'd love to have hardware MPEG-2 or MPEG-4, but I have absolutely no problem taking it in as 29.9x fps. |
| [18:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | not (some cards only have svideo for the video port and you migth need a cheap little rca -> svideo adapter) |
| [18:43:00] | Jouster: | RCA<=>S-Video won't kill me. |
| [18:43:00] | LostSole: | I'm having a problem with mythbackend – I get an error with "Authentication Rejected" when I do an /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart, however it's still running when I ps -ef|grep myth. Anyone have any suggestions about what to check? |
| [18:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | The PVR-x50 cards have hardware compression of the incoming stream and spit out mpeg2 streams |
| [18:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | takes basically 0% cpu to capture from them |
| [18:43:00] | Jouster: | LostSole: are you sudo'ing that restart? |
| [18:44:00] | LostSole: | Jouster: yup. |
| [18:44:00] | Jouster: | Alas, I really need USB. |
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| [18:44:00] | Jouster: | For a laptop, donchaknow. |
| [18:44:00] | Jouster: | (And, no, no free PCMCIA slots. :() |
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| [18:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | There is a Plextor USB basic capture device for which there is some sort of support. I've never used one however. I think they spit out mpeg4, and possibly mpeg2 if you'd prefer |
| [18:44:00] | jonK: | so is the real question are there any signal capture devices that work with linux/mythtv that you can use with USB? |
| [18:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | A search of the mailing lists should find you the exact device name if you'd like |
| [18:46:00] | Jouster: | It's all so garbled up, and, alas, I'm bad at decoding. Can you hit me with a couple keywords? I know "+usb -dvb +(rca or s-video)". Anything else? |
| [18:46:00] | jonK: | if so i was going to point to the plextor one Plextor TV402 or 420 i think |
| [18:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.everythingusb.com/hardware/index/P . . . X-TV402U.htm |
| [18:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've never used it so I can't speak to driver stabilty or capture quality |
| [18:47:00] | Jouster: | rgr rgr |
| [18:47:00] | Jouster: | Appreciated nonetheless. |
| [18:47:00] | Jouster: | :-D |
| [18:47:00] | Jouster: | Thanks. |
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| [18:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | "rgr" ? :) |
| [18:48:00] | JohnnyQyest: | my power turned off for a second, what was that tail command? |
| [18:48:00] | jonK: | tail -f /var/log/messages |
| [18:48:00] | jonK: | roger roger |
| [18:48:00] | LostSole: | It seems like this authentication error is preventing me from watching anything. Mythfrontend will load, but the backend doesn't seem to be connecting correctly to the database. Both are on the same machine, and running mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg works, so I'm stuck. |
| [18:49:00] | jonK: | lost, try myth-backend stop, check ps -ef, then start, i think i've received the same error sometimes |
| [18:49:00] | jonK: | but that i've been able to disregard |
| [18:49:00] | jonK: | as everything seems to still run fine |
| [18:49:00] | Jouster: | hehe, 'rgr rgr' is local slang. It's our way of simultaneously honoring Lucas for the cool idea of having a remotely-controlled robot army, and disparaging him for having them communicate with one another verbally. |
| [18:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | hahaha |
| [18:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [18:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | roger roger |
| [18:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [18:50:00] | jonK: | having them communiate otherwise would make for very bad movie.. cam you picture just to robots standing there? |
| [18:50:00] | Jouster: | We have presumed that the double-roger is in there for error protection. |
| [18:50:00] | Jouster: | Y'know, if the CRC on the first 'rgr' fails, send another. |
| [18:50:00] | jonK: | it'd be worse than jar jar, and that's pretty bad |
| [18:50:00] | ** Jouster lol. ** | |
| [18:51:00] | Jouster: | Nice. |
| [18:51:00] | JohnnyQyest: | it seemed to load just fine jonk |
| [18:51:00] | jonK: | although using dialoge for exposition that way suckss in its own right, technical considerations notwithstanding |
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| [18:52:00] | LostSole: | jonK: I'll check it out. It hasn't worked for me yet. :\ I had it working for about 3 weeks straight, no problems, then a disk error hosed my system. Now I've been struggling back with this for a week and a half. :P |
| [18:52:00] | jonK: | so now run cat /dev/video0 | mplayer and see if you get a picture |
| [18:52:00] | johnboy: | anyone in here play with the media MVP? |
| [18:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | johnboy: I've got work. Works pretty well |
| [18:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | got one I mean |
| [18:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm doing too many things at once. I'm missing words from one to the other heh |
| [18:53:00] | johnboy: | you use mvpmc to get it to be a front end for myth? |
| [18:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [18:54:00] | johnboy: | you use their howto? im looking through it and it looks kinda confusign |
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| [18:54:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: you're hte one that found the slick settop looking case with the blue LEDs in the front aren't you? |
| [18:54:00] | JohnnyQyest: | i got permission denied, i ran it as root |
| [18:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | johnboy: Yeah, it was fairly straight forward I thought |
| [18:55:00] | jonK: | then you need to change the file permissions on /dev/video |
| [18:55:00] | jonK: | to allow more than root to access it |
| [18:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | rjune: If you are referring to the ThermalTake Tenor then yes :) |
| [18:55:00] | jonK: | di you get a picture? |
| [18:55:00] | johnboy: | there in the beginning, do I need to be doing all of this in a certain location, or just anywhere in my linux box? |
| [18:55:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: maybe, lemme look |
| [18:56:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: yeah, that was it |
| [18:56:00] | ** Mersault just got MythTV up and running and outputting to his TV ** | |
| [18:56:00] | johnboy: | where i mkdir opt and opt/crosstool |
| [18:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | johnboy: which part specifically are you talking about? |
| [18:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahh ok |
| [18:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | it says right there that you are making "/opt" not "opt" |
| [18:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | But for the part about setting up the buildchain it can be anywhere you have space |
| [18:57:00] | Mersault: | So any tips for a new mythtv user? Anything to watch out for or that you've found really improves the setup any? |
| [18:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | you don't have to compile your own though if you don't want too |
| [18:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | you can just install the precompiled dongle.bin and use that |
| [18:57:00] | JohnnyQyest: | it just gave me a list of options now |
| [18:57:00] | johnboy: | the dongle.bin for mvpmc? |
| [18:58:00] | jonK: | Mersault: read the docs.. not just the webpages, but ones in the /doc directories for things like ivtv, lircd, etc... |
| [18:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | johnboy: yes |
| [18:58:00] | JohnnyQyest: | and still told me permission denied |
| [18:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | if you don't want to compile your own, you can grab one of the snapshots and use that |
| [18:58:00] | jonK: | johnny, type chmod 666 /dev/video0 |
| [18:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | just put the file in place and you are done |
| [18:58:00] | JohnnyQyest: | i did 777,, |
| [18:58:00] | laga: | Mersault: i'd try to give the various filters a shot, they're documented in the umm docs |
| [18:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | assuming dhcp and tftp/nfs are setup :) |
| [18:58:00] | jonK: | as root? |
| [18:59:00] | JohnnyQyest: | ya |
| [18:59:00] | jonK: | then it's something else — try cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg |
| [18:59:00] | jonK: | wait a few seconds |
| [18:59:00] | jonK: | hit ctl-c |
| [18:59:00] | jonK: | then mplayer test.mpg |
| [18:59:00] | JohnnyQyest: | playing |
| [19:00:00] | jonK: | Mersault: i had multiple problems that were ultimately fixed by reading docs |
| [19:00:00] | JohnnyQyest: | it closes after a few seconds |
| [19:00:00] | jonK: | johnny , fire up mythtv |
| [19:00:00] | johnboy: | is there a howto that you know of for setting this up on a redhat based distro, GreyFoxx? |
| [19:00:00] | JohnnyQyest: | is it supposed to? |
| [19:00:00] | jonK: | it should you only recorded a few seconds |
| [19:00:00] | JohnnyQyest: | o ok |
| [19:00:00] | laga: | i'm wondering about the standard date format in linux/unix. let's say i want to build CVS packages of mythtv, how would i name them? mythtv_0.18-yyyyddmm? |
| [19:00:00] | jonK: | the first command was taking the output of the decodeer and copying it to the test file |
| [19:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: most people prefer yymmdd |
| [19:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | yyyymmdd |
| [19:01:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: thank you very much. |
| [19:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can sort yyyymmdd numerically :) |
| [19:01:00] | JohnnyQyest: | didnt work |
| [19:01:00] | jonK: | what did it do? |
| [19:01:00] | rjune: | laga: use this... |
| [19:02:00] | JohnnyQyest: | black scren |
| [19:02:00] | JohnnyQyest: | lots of errors |
| [19:02:00] | rjune: | mythtv-VERSION-0.YYYYMMDD |
| [19:02:00] | jonK: | such as? |
| [19:02:00] | JohnnyQyest: | in mythfrontend and backend |
| [19:02:00] | jonK: | start with backend |
| [19:02:00] | rjune: | laga: you wont' clobber official rpms then |
| [19:02:00] | laga: | rjune: i don't use official packages ;) |
| [19:02:00] | rjune: | laga: you gonna share yours? |
| [19:02:00] | JohnnyQyest: | 2005-06–20 13:00:50.203 Channel()::Open(): Can't open video device, error "No such file or directory" |
| [19:02:00] | jonK: | stop there |
| [19:02:00] | laga: | rjune: nope, i don't think so. |
| [19:03:00] | rjune: | then no worries |
| [19:03:00] | jonK: | run mythtv-setup as user mythtv |
| [19:03:00] | laga: | rjune: why? are you interested in debian packages? ;) |
| [19:03:00] | rjune: | laga: oh, bah |
| [19:03:00] | laga: | heh |
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| [19:03:00] | SarahEmm: | hihi |
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| [19:04:00] | jonK: | hi |
| [19:04:00] | JohnnyQyest: | yey, finally mythtvsetup works |
| [19:04:00] | JohnnyQyest: | it hasnt been letting me set and input |
| [19:05:00] | jonK: | well, with no ivtv module properly loaded, what would you expect? |
| [19:05:00] | JohnnyQyest: | lol |
| [19:05:00] | JohnnyQyest: | why did that stop loading? any ideas? |
| [19:05:00] | LostSole: | dammit! It worked for a moment, then I tried to log out and log back in, and now it doesn't. What the hell. :P |
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| [19:07:00] | JohnnyQyest: | omg, it works and no high pitched hissing |
| [19:08:00] | JohnnyQyest: | thank you jonk, for helping me again, for like the 1 millionth time |
| [19:09:00] | jonK: | so it works, you have a working pvr? |
| [19:09:00] | JohnnyQyest: | well, i cant change channels, but i think thats cuz i dont have the database updated |
| [19:09:00] | JohnnyQyest: | cuz that fixed it last time |
| [19:10:00] | jonK: | run mythfilldatabase |
| [19:10:00] | jonK: | with the backedn running |
| [19:10:00] | JohnnyQyest: | how do i get it to load properly everytime i boot? |
| [19:10:00] | JohnnyQyest: | ya im doing that right now |
| [19:10:00] | jonK: | add ivtv to the modules |
| [19:10:00] | jonK: | echo ivtv >> /etc/modules |
| [19:10:00] | JohnnyQyest: | how do i add it to the modules? with taht command? |
| [19:10:00] | jonK: | open /etc/modules |
| [19:11:00] | jonK: | instead, let you see what's there |
| [19:11:00] | jonK: | add ivtv |
| [19:11:00] | jonK: | plus I'd hate to see you f it with echo ivtv > /etc/moduels |
| [19:12:00] | JohnnyQyest: | i would hate for that to happen to |
| [19:12:00] | JohnnyQyest: | i dont see a /etc/modules |
| [19:12:00] | JohnnyQyest: | you mean modprobe.conf? |
| [19:12:00] | jonK: | so knopmyth does it differently |
| [19:12:00] | JohnnyQyest: | fc3 |
| [19:12:00] | jonK: | anyone, where does fc3 keep the list of modules to load at boot? |
| [19:13:00] | JohnnyQyest: | is that the file that says alias? |
| [19:13:00] | rjune: | jonK: /etc/modprobe.conf |
| [19:13:00] | rjune: | or something close to that |
| [19:13:00] | JohnnyQyest: | ya, im in there |
| [19:13:00] | jonK: | add ivtv |
| [19:13:00] | JohnnyQyest: | i have my ivtv in there |
| [19:13:00] | JohnnyQyest: | but it may not be correct... |
| [19:14:00] | JohnnyQyest: | if it wasnt loadign correctly.. |
| [19:14:00] | jonK: | that's the aliases |
| [19:14:00] | jonK: | try creating /etc/modules |
| [19:14:00] | JohnnyQyest: | ok |
| [19:14:00] | jonK: | add the line ivtv, reboot and seewhat it does |
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| [19:14:00] | JohnnyQyest: | nothing else in it? |
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| [19:14:00] | JohnnyQyest: | just ivtv? |
| [19:15:00] | jonK: | not unless you have another module you want to load |
| [19:15:00] | jonK: | but it may do nothing |
| [19:15:00] | JohnnyQyest: | ok |
| [19:15:00] | JohnnyQyest: | im rebooting |
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| [19:16:00] | jonK: | i once said if we can talk him through setting up a pvr, i could talk my gradma through doing it |
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| [19:17:00] | rjune: | jonK: that's mean |
| [19:17:00] | jonK: | you shoudl have seen the first night he was here |
| [19:17:00] | jonK: | a bottomless pit of |
| [19:17:00] | jonK: | "ok and how do i do that..." |
| [19:17:00] | jonK: | no worries, have to start learning somewhere |
| [19:17:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [19:17:00] | rjune: | you play with theora at all? |
| [19:18:00] | jonK: | down to how do i untar a file, how do i run a shell window etc... |
| [19:18:00] | jonK: | now hat's that? |
| [19:18:00] | jonK: | what's that |
| [19:18:00] | rjune: | video codec that goes with vorbis |
| [19:18:00] | Chutt: | crappy "opensource" video codec |
| [19:18:00] | rjune: | Chutt: looking pretty good to me so far |
| [19:18:00] | jonK: | vorbis audio? |
| [19:18:00] | rjune: | jonK: yeah |
| [19:18:00] | Chutt: | video quality's equivalent to mpeg2, roughly |
| [19:18:00] | jonK: | or is vorbis now video codec too |
| [19:19:00] | rjune: | jonK: vorbis is audio, theora is video |
| [19:19:00] | Chutt: | it's basically some company's old junky codec that they released the source to |
| [19:19:00] | rjune: | that's the starting point |
| [19:19:00] | johnboy: | damn that mvpmc-uclibc.sh script does an ass load of stuff |
| [19:19:00] | jonK: | gee chutt, you're making it sound so fascinating |
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| [19:19:00] | Chutt: | they really haven't changed it terribly much |
| [19:19:00] | jonK: | johnny type lsmod / |
| [19:19:00] | jonK: | lsmod | grep ivtv |
| [19:19:00] | jonK: | forget the line1 |
| [19:19:00] | LostSole: | I'm still having problems with mythbackend not connecting to the database. Driving me crazy. :) |
| [19:20:00] | JohnnyQyest: | ok |
| [19:20:00] | jonK: | have you given permissions to have the database be accessed by just anyone? |
| [19:20:00] | JohnnyQyest: | i believe so |
| [19:20:00] | Chutt: | jonK, well, considering it was 'alpha' status back when i started myth |
| [19:20:00] | jonK: | talking to lostsole |
| [19:20:00] | Chutt: | and it's still on alpha4, i believe, 3 years later.. =) |
| [19:21:00] | JohnnyQyest: | lsmod, no command found |
| [19:21:00] | rjune: | took vorbis a number of years to get moving too |
| [19:21:00] | JohnnyQyest: | or command not found* |
| [19:21:00] | Chutt: | yeah, but they're making stupid mistakes, especially with the container format |
| [19:21:00] | LostSole: | jonK: Grant all priveleges on mythconverg.* to mythtv@localhost identified by 'passwd'; |
| [19:21:00] | Chutt: | and by 'stupid', i mean completely braindead |
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| [19:22:00] | jonK: | ok.. try /sbin/lsmod |
| [19:22:00] | JohnnyQyest: | ok |
| [19:22:00] | JohnnyQyest: | that worked |
| [19:22:00] | jonK: | did you pipe to grep? |
| [19:23:00] | Chutt: | rjune, basically, the quality's no better than existing codecs. it's no less patent encumbered than existing codecs. it's slower than most existing codecs... =) |
| [19:23:00] | JohnnyQyest: | didnt display anything with grep |
| [19:23:00] | jonK: | "grep ivtv" |
| [19:23:00] | jonK: | ? |
| [19:23:00] | rjune: | Chutt: it is less patent encumberd than other codecs |
| [19:23:00] | Chutt: | no, it's not |
| [19:23:00] | Chutt: | they just say it is |
| [19:23:00] | rjune: | yes it is |
| [19:23:00] | jonK: | I love patents |
| [19:23:00] | johnboy: | patents suck |
| [19:23:00] | johnboy: | software ones anyways |
| [19:23:00] | rjune: | johnboy: indeed |
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| [19:24:00] | JohnnyQyest: | does nothing |
| [19:24:00] | jonK: | johnny, just run modprobe ivtv on your own |
| [19:24:00] | jonK: | then |
| [19:24:00] | JohnnyQyest: | or freezes up |
| [19:24:00] | rjune: | http://www.theora.org/theorafaq.html#24 <-- sounds like it's not so encumbered to me |
| [19:25:00] | jonK: | I think I'll go write some patents |
| [19:25:00] | jonK: | encumber up some stuff |
| [19:25:00] | Chutt: | rjune, they're completely ignoring everyone else's patents |
| [19:26:00] | johnboy: | GreyFoxx, you still here? |
| [19:26:00] | rjune: | such as? |
| [19:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [19:26:00] | Chutt: | such as everything remotely related to video being covered :p |
| [19:26:00] | Chutt: | a lot of stuff in there isn't _that_ different than mpeg2/4simple |
| [19:26:00] | johnboy: | how much did mvpmc-uclibc.sh do when you ran it? its doing like 14 million things right now |
| [19:26:00] | rjune: | myth is patent encumberd using that logic |
| [19:26:00] | jonK: | that's a lot of things |
| [19:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | johnboy: that sounds about right |
| [19:27:00] | Chutt: | of course it is |
| [19:27:00] | jonK: | myth may well be patent encumbered |
| [19:27:00] | johnboy: | oh ok :) |
| [19:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | So you are choosing to compile your own rather than use a precompiled versions ? |
| [19:27:00] | johnboy: | i'm just following the howto on the mvpmc site |
| [19:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cause that script is building the cross compiling environment and tools |
| [19:27:00] | jonK: | i've seen some of tivo's patents that come awfully damn close |
| [19:27:00] | JohnnyQyest: | jonk, what do i do after modprobe ivtv? |
| [19:27:00] | jonK: | run mythtv |
| [19:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | johnboy: The howto assumes you are compiling your own |
| [19:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | you don';t have too |
| [19:28:00] | johnboy: | argh :/ |
| [19:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | just download the latest snap shot and use it |
| [19:28:00] | jonK: | johnny modprobe just loads a kernel module |
| [19:28:00] | johnboy: | off CVS? |
| [19:28:00] | jonK: | so onece there you can run software that access teh pvr 150 through the /dev/video device |
| [19:29:00] | johnboy: | like this part of the howto says to do: http://mvpmc.sourceforge.net/mvpmc-HOWTO-singlehtml.html#toc4 |
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| [19:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | First news item on the main page is the latest "release" , there are snapshots as well |
| [19:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | no |
| [19:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | You do not need to do that |
| [19:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's telling you how to grab a hauppage version of it :) |
| [19:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | which is not what you want in this case |
| [19:30:00] | johnboy: | just setup the dhcp and tftp and use the 0.1.6 mvpmc? |
| [19:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | that's pretty much it |
| [19:30:00] | JohnnyQyest: | and now it works after i run modprobeivtv |
| [19:30:00] | mrplum: | heh, stupid buffers too short, someone said my name though |
| [19:30:00] | JohnnyQyest: | how do i get it to automatically load? |
| [19:30:00] | johnboy: | i guess i could ctrl-C this script then, eh? i hope i didnt break anything with this script |
| [19:30:00] | jonK: | I dont know for fedora |
| [19:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | Though you have the option of using either nfs or the myth protocol for playback,, |
| [19:31:00] | johnboy: | id like to use myth |
| [19:31:00] | JohnnyQyest: | ok |
| [19:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | I nfs mount my video and my mythtv recordings directory to the mvp |
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| [19:31:00] | jonK: | but how often are you going to shutdown the backend? |
| [19:31:00] | johnboy: | doesnt that just show you the nuv files and not the name/desc on the mvp? |
| [19:32:00] | johnboy: | should i let this script finish sense its already started? |
| [19:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | John, It shows file names if I choose the option to move through the directory, but if I use the mythtv option it shows the info about the show |
| [19:32:00] | JohnnyQyest is now known as JohnnyQuest | |
| [19:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | johnboy: completely up to you |
| [19:32:00] | jonK: | did I somewhere once see a reference to using mythtv to grab and view tivo files? |
| [19:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | you could just ctrl-c it and remove /opt/crosstool |
| [19:33:00] | johnboy: | just killed it |
| [19:33:00] | johnboy: | so should i follow that howto to figure out how to get my dhcp and tftp servers running? |
| [19:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [19:36:00] | mrplum: | anyone here use nvtv? |
| [19:36:00] | johnboy: | where should i put the dongle.bin and the dongle.bin.mvpmc.config files? |
| [19:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | whereever you point your tftp software to use as the root tftp directory |
| [19:37:00] | johnboy: | which distro do you use? |
| [19:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | though, fyi the .config file has to have an almost identical name to the dongle.bin |
| [19:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | so dongle.bin would have dongle.bin.config and dongle.bin.mvpmc would have dongle.bin.mvpmc.config eytc etc |
| [19:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | Slackware |
| [19:38:00] | johnboy: | just with .mvpmc.config tagged on the end? |
| [19:38:00] | johnboy: | oh ok |
| [19:39:00] | johnboy: | is that a redhat base distro? |
| [19:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | haha no |
| [19:39:00] | johnboy: | oh ok, just wondering where to get a tftp daemon from |
| [19:40:00] | johnboy: | dont know if fc3 comes with one |
| [19:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | I would assume it does |
| [19:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | if not fedora likely has a package of one |
| [19:43:00] | mrplum: | ugh I get this annoying bug where anything that (I think) uses my video's overlay functions it turns my video green and purple. all the regular X stuff is fine, but it's as if the hue on the movies is way out of whack |
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| [19:43:00] | mrplum: | occasionally it works, very occasionally, anyone seen this before. |
| [19:43:00] | Chuji: | Can you watch live tv on frontend that isn't a fe/be ? |
| [19:44:00] | SarahEmm: | a frontend that isn't a frontend? |
| [19:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | Saw something similar once on an old video card. Turned out to be a driver bug |
| [19:44:00] | SarahEmm: | ooh nM |
| [19:44:00] | SarahEmm: | one that isn't a combo one |
| [19:44:00] | Chuji: | Exactly |
| [19:44:00] | mrplum: | GreyFoxx, no doubt! nvidia drivers, i'm sure they don't do something right |
| [19:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | mrplum: What version? I'm still running 6629 I believe |
| [19:45:00] | SarahEmm: | Chuji: err, are you asking if myth can do it, or are you helping someone with an issue? *Confused* |
| [19:45:00] | Chuji: | SarahEmm : Can myth do it? |
| [19:45:00] | SarahEmm: | yeah |
| [19:45:00] | SarahEmm: | same as if it's a combined one, remote ones work just the same |
| [19:46:00] | Chuji: | SarahEmm : I only have a combo unit right now |
| [19:46:00] | mrplum: | 7174 |
| [19:46:00] | SarahEmm: | ahh okay |
| [19:46:00] | SarahEmm: | yes, it works fine watching livetv on a remote fe |
| [19:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | I had issues with 7174 when I installed it so I went back to 6629 |
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| [19:46:00] | Chuji: | I'm intalling a new fe, just wanted to make sure I didn't lose that functionality |
| [19:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | but there is a newer version than 71744 and I haven't bothered trying since I don't have anything wrong with what I'm using now |
| [19:46:00] | SarahEmm: | nope you won't |
| [19:46:00] | JohnnyQuest: | does anyone know how to setup ivtv to load on startup? |
| [19:46:00] | Chuji: | What happens when the two fe's compete? |
| [19:47:00] | sphing: | JohnnyQuest: what distro |
| [19:47:00] | SarahEmm: | Chuji: 'compete'? for tuners for livetv you mean? |
| [19:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | Chuji: Only 1 will get the tuner, the other gets told that it's in use |
| [19:47:00] | JohnnyQuest: | fc3 |
| [19:47:00] | Chuji: | GreyFoxx : Cool... |
| [19:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | both can read an inprogress recording, or a already recorded item. But only one can have the tuner at a time |
| [19:47:00] | jonK: | saraemm, he needs the ivtv module to be modprobed at startup, I put stuff in /etc/modules, but apparently fc puts it somewhere else |
| [19:47:00] | SarahEmm: | jonK: huh? *confused* |
| [19:48:00] | ** SarahEmm wasn't dealing with anyone on any issues ** | |
| [19:48:00] | sphing: | JohnnyQuest: not sure I imagine its like redhat which I believe was /etc/modules.d/ |
| [19:48:00] | johnboy: | brb |
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| [19:48:00] | Chuji: | Thanks guys (and gal) ;) |
| [19:48:00] | SarahEmm: | heh np :) |
| [19:48:00] | j-rod: | sphing, nope |
| [19:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use my own initscript to load mine, but I wouldn't know where you would put it in fedora |
| [19:48:00] | j-rod: | no /etc/modules.d/ in rh |
| [19:48:00] | jonK: | where in fc is it then |
| [19:48:00] | sphing: | i havent used redhat in a long time |
| [19:48:00] | j-rod: | can use your own init script or you can set up some stuff in rc.sysinit |
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| [19:49:00] | j-rod: | I patch rc.sysinit to recognize ivtv and load it just after udev starts |
| [19:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ya |
| [19:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | you're patch |
| [19:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | on your website |
| [19:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | wasnt up |
| [19:49:00] | j-rod: | yup |
| [19:49:00] | j-rod: | ah |
| [19:49:00] | j-rod: | hm... |
| [19:49:00] | JohnnyQuest: | if you can remedy that, then i might get it to work.. |
| [19:50:00] | sphing: | I'm a little confused on this Job Queue, I want things to happen in this order: ComFlag -> Transcode -> Execute a sh script I wrote |
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| [19:50:00] | sphing: | and i'm not sure how to do it |
| [19:50:00] | j-rod: | its up |
| [19:50:00] | JohnnyQuest: | ok |
| [19:50:00] | JohnnyQuest: | why was it down? |
| [19:51:00] | j-rod: | for some reason, server restarted |
| [19:51:00] | j-rod: | apache requires password input to unlock the ssl key |
| [19:51:00] | j-rod: | so it doesn't auto-start |
| [19:51:00] | mrplum: | hey someone posted a debian bug of my problem, awesome |
| [19:51:00] | j-rod: | and I'm too lazy to implement anything better |
| [19:51:00] | j-rod: | :) |
| [19:51:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lol |
| [19:51:00] | j-rod: | well, too busy, actually |
| [19:51:00] | j-rod: | curious why the hell the machine bounced though... |
| [19:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well thank you for making it available for me to dl |
| [19:52:00] | j-rod: | np |
| [19:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | it was working for me, and then stopped a few days ago |
| [19:52:00] | j-rod: | bounced 2 days ago for some reason |
| [19:52:00] | j-rod: | power is flaky sometimes |
| [19:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | well it was in the middle of me getting files.. |
| [19:52:00] | JohnnyQuest: | like, it worked |
| [19:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | and the next file didnt |
| [19:53:00] | j-rod: | hm... |
| [19:53:00] | j-rod: | doubt it was your doing |
| [19:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | im pretty sure at least |
| [19:53:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i doubt it to |
| [19:53:00] | sphing: | does mythtranscode output to a stdout or a file or what... i cant find it with --help and i dont have a man page |
| [19:54:00] | SarahEmm: | sphing: you sure you want to use mythtranscode directly? |
| [19:54:00] | sphing: | no |
| [19:54:00] | SarahEmm: | what are you trying to do? |
| [19:54:00] | sphing: | comflag -> transcode -> my sh script |
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| [19:54:00] | SarahEmm: | ahh okay. so you're doing something custom.. |
| [19:54:00] | sphing: | yea |
| [19:54:00] | SarahEmm: | i just asked 'cuz a lot of people seem to want nuvexport when they play with mythtranscode :) |
| [19:55:00] | sphing: | i'm cataloging a season, and enconding into divx/xvid |
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| [19:55:00] | SarahEmm: | cool |
| [19:57:00] | travolta: | i'm also looking to do commflag->transcode with ffmpeg-> cp to a dir |
| [19:57:00] | sphing: | mythtranscode will honor commflag stuff right? |
| [19:57:00] | travolta: | :) |
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| [19:57:00] | sphing: | well I have my sh script pretty much done, its not much.. but i'll send to you when i'm done if you want |
| [19:59:00] | travolta: | what does your script do? |
| [20:00:00] | j-rod: | just got un-lazy, threw a line in to drop me an email when that boxes gets restarted... |
| [20:01:00] | sphing: | it justs gonna commflag, transcode, then make it an avi, encode it, and rename it |
| [20:01:00] | Beirdo: | puzzlepirates... sigh |
| [20:01:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [20:02:00] | JohnnyQuest: | so now that loads fine |
| [20:02:00] | SarahEmm: | Beirdo: lol, still addicted? |
| [20:02:00] | JohnnyQuest: | the remote is my next problem |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | just opened a distillery last night |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | ;) |
| [20:04:00] | Beirdo: | you'll find it on Dragon's Nest |
| [20:04:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:04:00] | SarahEmm: | coolies |
| [20:04:00] | ** SarahEmm is working at her partner's distillery right now ** | |
| [20:04:00] | SarahEmm: | :) |
| [20:04:00] | ** SarahEmm meows ** | |
| [20:04:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:04:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i am getting my remote to work in the terminal with irw |
| [20:04:00] | Beirdo: | regard the competition... I'm just starting out though |
| [20:05:00] | SarahEmm: | hehe |
| [20:05:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i cant get it to do anything in mythtv |
| [20:05:00] | sphing: | anyone successfully got myth on an xbox |
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| [20:11:00] | sphing: | can anyone explain the profile option of mythtranscode |
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| [20:24:00] | mrplum: | Anyone know what file I should edit in Debian if I want xfree86 to execute mythfrontend when I type startx instead of any window manager |
| [20:25:00] | Beirdo: | the same as any other distro |
| [20:25:00] | Beirdo: | .xinitrc |
| [20:25:00] | mrplum: | that have all this fancy /etc/X11/Xsession.d stuff which is foreign to me. |
| [20:25:00] | mrplum: | eh okay, guess so |
| [20:25:00] | kormoc: | guess you'll have to learn something, the horror, the horror |
| [20:25:00] | mrplum: | :-O |
| [20:26:00] | mrplum: | I wasn't asking for you to ssh in and do it for me ;) |
| [20:26:00] | kormoc: | heh, that's just asking for trouble if you would :P |
| [20:28:00] | JohnnyQuest: | what is the command to start lirc? irexec? |
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| [20:33:00] | travolta: | modprobe first, then irexec |
| [20:33:00] | travolta: | irw to test |
| [20:34:00] | JohnnyQuest: | irw works |
| [20:34:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i cant get it to work in mythtv |
| [20:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | any ideas/ |
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| [20:35:00] | JohnnyQuest: | irexec 0.7.1: too many arguments, thats what i get wehn i run modprobe lirc |
| [20:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | nm |
| [20:36:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i had somethign in front of it |
| [20:37:00] | travolta: | sorry, modprobe first, then run lircd |
| [20:37:00] | travolta: | then irexec |
| [20:37:00] | mrplum: | JohnnyQuest, you tring to use mythtv's internal lirc support? is it compiled for lirc? |
| [20:37:00] | mrplum: | err or use irexec, n/m |
| [20:38:00] | JohnnyQuest: | lircd? |
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| [20:38:00] | travolta: | yea, might need to edit some config files first |
| [20:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | the remote is now working.. |
| [20:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | umm |
| [20:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | i guess it was just the modprobe |
| [20:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | now i need to auto star tthat :( |
| [20:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | any clues for fc3? |
| [20:41:00] | travolta: | sorry, i dont know |
| [20:42:00] | JohnnyQuest: | its ok |
| [20:42:00] | JohnnyQuest: | now i found my problem |
| [20:42:00] | JohnnyQuest: | thank you |
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| [20:44:00] | johnboy: | GreyFoxx, you still here? |
| [20:44:00] | johnboy: | or anyone that has setup the mediamvp for that matter? |
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| [20:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | barely |
| [20:51:00] | johnboy: | hey youre back |
| [20:51:00] | johnboy: | got a question |
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| [20:51:00] | johnboy: | its stalling out after the dhcp server gives the mvp a ip |
| [20:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | likely failing to tftp the config file |
| [20:51:00] | johnboy: | then the mvp just stops on the fourth square (its boot process i assume?) |
| [20:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | or the boot file |
| [20:52:00] | johnboy: | i've got tftp installed from my fedora disk, is there more configuration involved? I dont see anything about configuring tftpd in the howto |
| [20:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, isthe tftp daemon running? Is it pointing to the directory where you have placed the dongle.* files ? |
| [20:53:00] | johnboy: | its running |
| [20:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | can you test tftp the file ? |
| [20:53:00] | johnboy: | but i havent setup the conf files.... duh me :/ |
| [20:53:00] | johnboy: | they in etc like everything else? |
| [20:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't use a config file for the tftp server |
| [20:54:00] | johnboy: | i dont have a conf file |
| [20:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's just a commandline parameter to tell it where the tftproot is |
| [20:54:00] | johnboy: | root or boot? |
| [20:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | same thing |
| [20:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | the tftproot directory is the tftpboot directory |
| [20:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | all depends on what you choose to call it |
| [20:56:00] | rjune: | johnboy: yum -y install tftp-server |
| [20:57:00] | rjune: | johnboy: chkconfig tftp on |
| [20:57:00] | rjune: | that should install it and turn it on |
| [20:58:00] | levander`: | Any has tried the hdtv out on the leadtek geforce 6200 cards? |
| [20:59:00] | johnboy: | this command at root level then: export TFTPBOOT=/tftpboot |
| [20:59:00] | johnboy: | rjune: its installed right now, and I turned it on with the services panel, im pretty sure its running just dont know hwo to configure it |
| [20:59:00] | rjune: | johnboy: you don't |
| [20:59:00] | rjune: | it either runs or it doesn't |
| [20:59:00] | levander`: | Am wondering if the HDTV decoding occurs on the card itself in the hardware decoder, or, if you still have to use your CPU for the decoding. |
| [21:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | the most you would configure is where the tftpboot directory is |
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| [21:00:00] | rjune: | johnboy: put your file in /tftpboot |
| [21:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | and you only have to configure that if you want it in a non default location like I do |
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| [21:00:00] | rjune: | as far as any tfp clients are concerned they get /filename |
| [21:00:00] | johnboy: | is the export TFTPBOOT=/tftpboot command how i tell it to look in /tftpboot |
| [21:01:00] | rjune: | johnboy: where are you getting export TFTPBOOT from? |
| [21:01:00] | johnboy: | mvpmc howto |
| [21:01:00] | rjune: | ok that line runs on the mvpmc itself then? |
| [21:01:00] | johnboy: | no it says to run that on the server |
| [21:02:00] | rjune: | ok |
| [21:02:00] | johnboy: | http://mvpmc.sourceforge.net/mvpmc-HOWTO-singlehtml.html |
| [21:02:00] | johnboy: | sec. 2.3 |
| [21:02:00] | rjune: | good plan |
| [21:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | That is not needed |
| [21:03:00] | johnboy: | oops |
| [21:03:00] | rjune: | that's for your use |
| [21:03:00] | johnboy: | i already issued the command :/ |
| [21:03:00] | rjune: | the tftp server looks in /tftpboot by default |
| [21:03:00] | johnboy: | really? |
| [21:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | johnboy: It wont adversely affect anything |
| [21:03:00] | rjune: | yeah, really |
| [21:03:00] | rjune: | To simplify this HOWTO, execute the following command to create a shell variable for the actual location of your tftpboot directory: |
| [21:05:00] | johnboy: | i just turned on the mvp and in my log i get this: |
| [21:05:00] | johnboy: | jun 20 14:03:47 MythTV dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:0d:fe:00:7c:83 via eth0 |
| [21:05:00] | johnboy: | Jun 20 14:03:47 MythTV dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.1.3 to 00:0d:fe:00:7c:83 via |
| [21:05:00] | johnboy: | eth0 |
| [21:05:00] | johnboy: | and it stops |
| [21:05:00] | johnboy: | after that tftp should pick it up i think |
| [21:06:00] | rjune: | in your dhcpd.conf file, did you specify a host for mthe mvp? |
| [21:06:00] | rjune: | aka, do you have host mvp somehwere? |
| [21:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's not finishing the dhcp, there are 4 steps. DISCOVER, OFFER, REQUEST and ACK |
| [21:06:00] | johnboy: | hang on let me pull it up |
| [21:07:00] | johnboy: | yeah i have a host mvp with the mac and ip address, filename and option root path |
| [21:07:00] | johnboy: | GreyFoxx, if you look at the bottom of that howto, his log shows tftp doing something right there |
| [21:08:00] | johnboy: | http://mvpmc.sourceforge.net/mvpmc-HOWTO-singlehtml.html#s6 |
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| [21:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | johnboy: I don't care what his log shows. If the device is skipping those steps fine, except that's it's not a proper dhcp process :) |
| [21:09:00] | johnboy: | ok :) i just want it to work i dont really care how |
| [21:09:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: what do you think of the thing? |
| [21:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | oh what ? |
| [21:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | the mvp ? |
| [21:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | or his troubles ?> |
| [21:09:00] | rjune: | yeah |
| [21:10:00] | johnboy: | hmmm what the hell is causing it to be bitchy? |
| [21:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | The Mvp is nice. small, quiet, low power and cheap |
| [21:10:00] | levander`: | There are any good mythtv online forums? |
| [21:10:00] | rjune: | how do you get it to be a myth frontend? |
| [21:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | rjune: With what johnbo: is setting up |
| [21:10:00] | rjune: | johnboy: test tftp |
| [21:10:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: Ah, missed that. |
| [21:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | the mvpmc project makes the mvp a frontend for myth, replay tv and some other |
| [21:10:00] | johnboy: | how? |
| [21:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | "tftp ipofserver" |
| [21:11:00] | rjune: | johnboy: tftp localhost |
| [21:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | "get dongle.bin" |
| [21:11:00] | rjune: | get "filename" |
| [21:11:00] | johnboy: | bash: tftp: command not found |
| [21:11:00] | rjune: | johnboy: yum -y install tftp |
| [21:11:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: basic linux distro I take it |
| [21:12:00] | johnboy: | -y? |
| [21:12:00] | rjune: | yes |
| [21:12:00] | johnboy: | fedora core |
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| [21:12:00] | rjune: | johnboy: i know you have fc |
| [21:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | rjune: Yeah, it has a little uclinux install which is contained in the dongle file that gets tftp'd at bootup |
| [21:12:00] | johnboy: | installed it |
| [21:12:00] | johnboy: | yum finished Successfully! |
| [21:13:00] | johnboy: | lets try this again then |
| [21:13:00] | rjune: | interesting. |
| [21:14:00] | johnboy: | hmm, if i do /sbin/service tftp restart, it says the service is unrecognized |
| [21:14:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: you played with the mvp portable? |
| [21:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | never heard of it :) |
| [21:15:00] | rjune: | http://www.expansys.com.au/product.asp?code=116963 |
| [21:15:00] | johnboy: | mvp portable? |
| [21:15:00] | rjune: | I wouldn't mind a portable myth frontend |
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| [21:15:00] | johnboy: | $1K |
| [21:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | Nifty |
| [21:15:00] | rjune: | yeah |
| [21:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | all of the portable stuff is too much money, unless you look at a psp whcih aren't too bad |
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| [21:16:00] | ** GreyFoxx heads home ** | |
| [21:18:00] | johnboy: | any ideas? |
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| [21:22:00] | rjune: | johnboy: did the test work? |
| [21:22:00] | johnboy: | i can run tftp now and it gives me a command prompt like "tftp>" and i can issue commands |
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| [21:23:00] | johnboy: | just tried booting the mvp again and no go |
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| [21:23:00] | johnboy: | still stops after DHCPOVFFER in my logs |
| [21:24:00] | rjune: | johnboy: and did you get "filename" ? |
| [21:25:00] | johnboy: | i tried it and it did something but i ctrl-c'd it, let me try again |
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| [21:25:00] | johnboy: | just did tftp localhost |
| [21:25:00] | JohnnyQuest: | anyone here used an older ati radeon card for tvout? |
| [21:25:00] | johnboy: | get dongle.bin.mvpmc16 and its just sitting there |
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| [21:26:00] | johnboy: | transfer times out |
| [21:26:00] | rjune: | JohnnyQuest: 9200SE work? |
| [21:26:00] | rjune: | johnboy: sounds like tftp isn't setup right |
| [21:26:00] | johnboy: | hmm... what else do i need to setup? |
| [21:26:00] | rjune: | johnboy: chkconfig --list |grep tftp |
| [21:27:00] | johnboy: | k hang one |
| [21:28:00] | johnboy: | tftp: off |
| [21:28:00] | johnboy: | the service is started though....? |
| [21:28:00] | rjune: | johnboy: open /etc/xinet.d/tftp |
| [21:28:00] | rjune: | if disable = yes is there, make it disable = no |
| [21:28:00] | rjune: | then run service xinetd restart |
| [21:29:00] | MonMotha: | anyone happen to know if the ens1371 ALSA driver got changed from 2.6.11 to 2.6.12? I'd check the changelogs, but well, yeah... |
| [21:29:00] | johnboy: | no directory, only file named xinet.d |
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| [21:30:00] | johnboy: | oh i was missing s d |
| [21:31:00] | johnboy: | ok it was set to disable, changed it and restarted service |
| [21:31:00] | johnboy: | lets see if it works now |
| [21:33:00] | johnboy: | tftp get on localhost works now |
| [21:33:00] | johnboy: | but the mvp is being wierd now |
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| [21:35:00] | johnboy: | and in the log its still only doing discover and offer |
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| [21:41:00] | johnboy: | SWEET it works |
| [21:41:00] | johnboy: | well almost, it boots but wont play the recordings |
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| [21:48:00] | johnboy: | if my recordings are in .nuv its a safe bet that they are in mpg2 right? |
| [21:48:00] | jonK: | are they being generated from a pvr x50? |
| [21:49:00] | johnboy: | yeah |
| [21:49:00] | jonK: | then yes, i think that's right |
| [21:49:00] | johnboy: | hmm why wont my mvp play the files then |
| [21:49:00] | johnboy: | :/ |
| [21:49:00] | jonK: | I've changed files from .nuv to .mpg and they play fine |
| [21:50:00] | johnboy: | on the mvp? |
| [21:52:00] | jonK: | since i dont know what you're referring to probably not |
| [21:52:00] | jonK: | mvp == ? |
| [21:52:00] | johnboy: | mediaMVP |
| [21:52:00] | jonK: | just a softwrae player? |
| [21:53:00] | johnboy: | the hauppauge thing, a thinclient myth frontend |
| [21:53:00] | johnboy: | its got mpg1/2 decode on it |
| [21:53:00] | jonK: | cool, this in windows then? |
| [21:54:00] | johnboy: | no, hang on let me link you |
| [21:54:00] | johnboy: | http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_mediamvp.html |
| [21:54:00] | johnboy: | http://mvpmc.sourceforge.net/idx.php?pg=main |
| [21:54:00] | jonK: | have to look later, i keep a web block on my computer at work.... |
| [21:55:00] | mrplum: | web block? |
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| [21:56:00] | jonK: | net nanny |
| [21:56:00] | jonK: | :) lol :) |
| [21:56:00] | johnboy: | lol |
| [21:56:00] | jonK: | but it's true.... |
| [21:56:00] | johnboy: | hmmmm |
| [21:56:00] | jonK: | and when i get really ADHD, i shut down the shh daemon on my box at home, so I can't even do this (irc over bitchx) |
| [21:57:00] | mrplum: | wow this mvp thing is new to me, what's so special about it though? |
| [21:57:00] | jonK: | oh the public shame... |
| [21:57:00] | johnboy: | haha what do you do? |
| [21:57:00] | mrplum: | ohh it's for windows? |
| [21:57:00] | johnboy: | mrplum-- its a little box that can stream video over your network |
| [21:57:00] | mrplum: | oh yea I get it |
| [21:58:00] | johnboy: | its designed to be a windows thing, but mvpmc has been made to make it into a frontend for mythtv |
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| [21:58:00] | johnboy: | jright now mine wont stream jack shiznat |
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| [21:58:00] | jonK: | can it also access tivo files, i swear i've seen a reference to something that allows myth to access tivo files |
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| [21:59:00] | mrplum: | tivo files are wma encrypted afaik |
| [21:59:00] | jonK: | only series 2 |
| [21:59:00] | jonK: | series one are not |
| [21:59:00] | mrplum: | damn US laws. |
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| [22:00:00] | jonK: | there's no law that makes them encrypt it, in fact for years exporting a tivo using strong encryption would have been tantamount to being a weapons dealer |
| [22:00:00] | jonK: | its AOL/TimeWarner/Vivendi/Universal... |
| [22:01:00] | mrplum: | right, money is the law |
| [22:01:00] | jonK: | for my series one tivo i have shell access, ftp/web server |
| [22:01:00] | mrplum: | afraid their going to be sued |
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| [22:01:00] | jonK: | and can pull files off and muck with them |
| [22:02:00] | mrplum: | that's neat |
| [22:02:00] | mrplum: | If I can ever get a build of mythphone as a debian package I'm looking forward to using that |
| [22:02:00] | mrplum: | video phone on my tv is going to be wicked neat |
| [22:02:00] | jonK: | after being perfectly happy with a tivo for the last couple years, i thought damn, why am I paying them $13 when i can build a mythtv box |
| [22:03:00] | jonK: | lol hundreds of dollars later.... |
| [22:03:00] | mrplum: | :-P |
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| [22:03:00] | jonK: | i have 3 tunercards, 2 300gb drives a second frontend |
| [22:03:00] | mrplum: | Well I've spent $800+ on the box I ended up using just for mythtv |
| [22:03:00] | mrplum: | heh |
| [22:03:00] | mrplum: | /13 ... |
| [22:03:00] | jonK: | and have ordered another tuner card (For HDTV) |
| [22:04:00] | jonK: | i could have paid my little $13 fee to tivo for YEARS |
| [22:04:00] | mrplum: | I have a bunch of tv cards someone gave me, haven't tried them yet. stupid me bought a microatx case and doesn't have any more room |
| [22:04:00] | jonK: | btw, anyone ever get a tivo remote working with lirc? |
| [22:05:00] | laga: | you can waste a lot of money on myhtv |
| [22:05:00] | laga: | mythtv* |
| [22:05:00] | mrplum: | wavewatcher by aitech, never herd of them, probably ancient |
| [22:05:00] | mrplum: | i originally built it as a media center pc :-O |
| [22:05:00] | mrplum: | I got soo sick of re-encoding the damn ms recorded shows. |
| [22:06:00] | jonK: | WASTE?! |
| [22:06:00] | jonK: | it's this or the strippers pants |
| [22:06:00] | rjune: | jonK: strippers pants? |
| [22:07:00] | mrplum: | yea, what else do you spend money on |
| [22:07:00] | mrplum: | duh |
| [22:07:00] | jonK: | fine, allow me to correct stripper's pants |
| [22:07:00] | jonK: | maybe panties? |
| [22:08:00] | rjune: | that works |
| [22:09:00] | laga: | heh |
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| [22:10:00] | ** laga compiles some plugins ** | |
| [22:10:00] | jonK: | so were agreed, then strippers' panties |
| [22:10:00] | laga: | this is going to be cool. |
| [22:10:00] | jonK: | anyone ever think of doing an X10 plugin? |
| [22:10:00] | laga: | jonK: the remote? |
| [22:10:00] | rjune: | that would be neat |
| [22:10:00] | mrplum: | damn I crashed my myth box AGAIN. |
| [22:11:00] | jonK: | y |
| [22:11:00] | jonK: | yes |
| [22:11:00] | jonK: | i thought X10 was more home automation, have a plugin to display status of things |
| [22:11:00] | laga: | jonK: it's already supported via a kernelmodule and by lirc. |
| [22:11:00] | laga: | oh, ok , sorry |
| [22:11:00] | laga: | jonK: check out www.plutohome.com |
| [22:11:00] | jonK: | ok |
| [22:12:00] | laga: | home automation sounds expensive. |
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| [22:12:00] | jonK: | or live feed webcams |
| [22:13:00] | Beirdo: | plutohome can eat me |
| [22:13:00] | Beirdo: | spamming bastards |
| [22:14:00] | laga: | yeah, they spammed a little bit ;) |
| [22:14:00] | jonK: | beirdo lacks a setting other than mass intensity |
| [22:14:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [22:14:00] | laga: | they posted at mythtvtalk.com, being one of the mods, i replied and they pm'ed me with the same text as in their posting |
| [22:14:00] | Beirdo: | you spam, you are shite |
| [22:14:00] | Beirdo: | they comment-spammed my blog |
| [22:14:00] | jonK: | kind of like my last gf, she had two settings, crisis and catastrophe |
| [22:15:00] | Beirdo: | they emailed everyone who posted to the mailing list for a couple days, apparently |
| [22:15:00] | jonK: | well i'd agree that's a special kind of gay |
| [22:16:00] | laga: | so there's nothing now on lxmsuite.com. kinda disappointing taking into account that they want my money. |
| [22:17:00] | mrplum: | I say F pluthome because they use flash |
| [22:17:00] | mrplum: | so lame |
| [22:17:00] | mrplum: | :) |
| [22:18:00] | jonK: | i like pie |
| [22:23:00] | jonK: | (friend brought me pie) |
| [22:24:00] | mrplum: | lucky |
| [22:24:00] | laga: | i like pie, too, but my friends usually dont bring me pie. which makes me very sad. |
| [22:25:00] | Beirdo: | mmmm. floor pie |
| [22:26:00] | Beirdo: | jonK: I have plenty of other settings. but those wankers don't deserve them |
| [22:26:00] | jonK: | do they include reserved and cautious? |
| [22:27:00] | jonK: | or maybe "understaded" ? |
| [22:27:00] | jonK: | understated? |
| [22:31:00] | abarbaccia: | hey – anybody ehre use an asus pundit – i need them to run glxgears for me and give me an idea of the fps you get |
| [22:31:00] | Beirdo: | what does that have to do with MythTV? |
| [22:31:00] | jonK: | about as much as floor pie |
| [22:32:00] | abarbaccia: | it has to do with me not having accel in my graphics card and my tv looks like poo |
| [22:32:00] | jonK: | "tv looks like poo" lol |
| [22:32:00] | abarbaccia: | lol – just trying not to cuss |
| [22:32:00] | jonK: | Sorry abarbaccia, don't use a pundit |
| [22:33:00] | jonK: | (meaning I don't, not that one shouldn't) |
| [22:35:00] | abarbaccia: | its cool – thanks tho – im thinking of building another box not using a pundit down the road |
| [22:35:00] | abarbaccia: | currently im working on my ubuntu mythtv guide |
| [22:35:00] | abarbaccia: | that should soon be on the web |
| [22:35:00] | jonK: | hosted where? |
| [22:35:00] | jonK: | I am using ubuntu, and might have some contributions |
| [22:36:00] | abarbaccia: | jonK, i would greatly appreciate them |
| [22:36:00] | jonK: | also, had good luck using the FIC ice cube as the living room front end |
| [22:37:00] | abarbaccia: | well, i just bought abarbaccia.com, and got some cheap hosting ($21 for the year + 10G transfer + 400MB sdata + mysql) |
| [22:37:00] | jonK: | php, perl as well then? |
| [22:37:00] | Beirdo: | glxgears doesn't necessarily map to what MythTV uses |
| [22:38:00] | abarbaccia: | Beirdo, i know, but i thought that itm ight give me a clue as to if its enabled |
| [22:38:00] | abarbaccia: | jonK, php only really, sql backend |
| [22:38:00] | Beirdo: | it will tell ya if OpenGL is on, past that, not much |
| [22:39:00] | Beirdo: | useful for playing games |
| [22:40:00] | jonK: | let me know once you have something for me to comment about, or page to look at, |
| [22:41:00] | abarbaccia: | jonK, im working on it right now – i have it running on my computer...if i could only ssh to the site then i would be fine – but i've never done this before |
| [22:47:00] | mrplum: | oh damn I fixed my tv problem, DAMN! sweet. something called PAL_MD did it |
| [22:47:00] | mrplum: | wonder what the hell that is |
| [22:56:00] | levander`: | Anybody has tried the HDTV outs on the Leadtek geforce 6200 cards? |
| [22:56:00] | levander`: | Am wondering if the video decoding is done on the CPU or on the video card. |
| [22:58:00] | mrplum: | hdtv is pretty intense, most likely on the video card |
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| [23:03:00] | j-rod: | any ssh gurus in the crowd? |
| [23:03:00] | rjune: | sup j-rod ? |
| [23:03:00] | j-rod: | I've got a puzzle... :) |
| [23:03:00] | rjune: | ask away |
| [23:04:00] | j-rod: | trying to ssh to a machine using a host key |
| [23:04:00] | j-rod: | it no work |
| [23:04:00] | j-rod: | server is set to allow host key auth |
| [23:04:00] | j-rod: | strict mode is enabled, but ~/.ssh is 700, authorized_keys is 400 |
| [23:04:00] | j-rod: | password login works fine |
| [23:04:00] | j-rod: | debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply |
| [23:04:00] | j-rod: | never get a reply from that |
| [23:04:00] | j-rod: | not sure why though |
| [23:05:00] | rjune: | i've had problems where /home didn't hvae the right perms |
| [23:05:00] | rjune: | and /home/user |
| [23:05:00] | Beirdo: | you did ssh -v? |
| [23:05:00] | Beirdo: | I assume? |
| [23:05:00] | j-rod: | heh, -v -v -v |
| [23:05:00] | j-rod: | could be something w/ /home |
| [23:06:00] | mrplum: | :) |
| [23:06:00] | j-rod: | /home/user is 770 |
| [23:06:00] | rjune: | j-rod: try 750 on /home/user |
| [23:06:00] | Beirdo: | have you ever sshed the other direction (to get the known hosts entry)? |
| [23:06:00] | rjune: | and 755 on /home |
| [23:06:00] | j-rod: | known_hosts is fine |
| [23:06:00] | j-rod: | unfortunately, the server I'm connecting to isn't mine |
| [23:07:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:07:00] | Beirdo: | Oh |
| [23:07:00] | rjune: | j-rod: this is of course /home and /home/user on the server I'm talking about. |
| [23:07:00] | j-rod: | yeah, got that |
| [23:07:00] | Beirdo: | it's likely perms |
| [23:07:00] | mrplum: | well if password mode works, maybe try to ssh into it, then ssh back, maybe that would accomplish was Beirdo is talking about |
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| [23:08:00] | j-rod: | chmod 750 /home/user and it works |
| [23:08:00] | j-rod: | k, thanks fellas |
| [23:08:00] | RetroMan: | hey everyone, I have a pretty unrelted question.. |
| [23:08:00] | j-rod: | whether or not that'll work w/their setup, I dunno... |
| [23:08:00] | RetroMan: | do you think its possible (via some application or something) to play music simultaneously on multiple computers across a LAN? |
| [23:08:00] | RetroMan: | so that your house is a huge stereo system? |
| [23:08:00] | mrplum: | icecast |
| [23:09:00] | RetroMan: | hmm, is that fast enough? |
| [23:09:00] | mrplum: | to serve multiple computers? sure |
| [23:09:00] | RetroMan: | but simultaneously enough so that it sounds like one stereo system |
| [23:09:00] | RetroMan: | I dont know, Ill try it |
| [23:10:00] | mrplum: | oh... well you may have some sync difficulties |
| [23:10:00] | RetroMan: | ya |
| [23:10:00] | mrplum: | but on a LAN it shouldn't be too hard I don't think |
| [23:10:00] | mrplum: | I've had some software based NIC cards before which might cause some weird buffering and bring it out of sync, but if you use all decent hardware you might get lucky |
| [23:10:00] | mrplum: | or maybe theres another way, why do you want to do that anyways ? |
| [23:10:00] | RetroMan: | youd think there be some app that can guess latency issues via some kind of pinging or something and play it based on that |
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| [23:11:00] | RetroMan: | so I can play music ethereally everywhere |
| [23:11:00] | mrplum: | well i'm sure someone could right a program based on the system clock, and as long as all the pc's were in sync it would play together. never seen anyting like that though |
| [23:11:00] | RetroMan: | how awesome would that be |
| [23:11:00] | RetroMan: | thats a good idea, system clock |
| [23:12:00] | Beirdo: | so what's this gotta do with MythTV? :) |
| [23:12:00] | RetroMan: | its uh.. mythical |
| [23:12:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:12:00] | RetroMan: | and special :) |
| [23:12:00] | Beirdo: | there is that |
| [23:12:00] | mrplum: | hehe |
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| [23:15:00] | RetroMan: | do you guys know of a channel that might know more about this? |
| [23:16:00] | Beirdo: | not off hand |
| [23:17:00] | Beirdo: | vlc might be able to multicast audio, not sure |
| [23:17:00] | Chutt: | mfd can. |
| [23:17:00] | Beirdo: | ahh, hadn't thought of that. too obvious :) |
| [23:18:00] | RetroMan: | mfd? |
| [23:19:00] | rjune: | j-rod: yay! happy to help |
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| [23:37:00] | mrplum: | I'm trying to compile mythplugins and when it starts doing what I think is the cdrip portion I get qprogressbar.h:115: internal compiler error: in push_class_binding, at cp/name-lookup.c:2691 |
| [23:38:00] | mrplum: | someone interperet that for me? |
| [23:38:00] | kormoc: | internal compiler error |
| [23:38:00] | kormoc: | sounds like you have some faulty hardware, faulty software or a combination of the two. |
| [23:41:00] | mrplum: | maybe, I see it tries -I/usr/lib/cdda which doesn't exist in any Debian package... but I'm sure it's not there, not sure if it could be causing the problem or where to find that dev package |
| [23:42:00] | mrplum: | that must be it |
| [23:42:00] | kormoc: | no, a missing include doesn't cause a compiler fault |
| [23:43:00] | kormoc: | it would error out saying it can't find the include |
| [23:44:00] | mrplum: | I can't find cp/name-lookup.c anywhere. wonder wth it's refering to |
| [23:45:00] | kormoc: | it's a gcc thing |
| [23:46:00] | mrplum: | yea, internal I guess |
| [23:46:00] | mrplum: | :) |
| [23:46:00] | mrplum: | *sigh* |
| [23:46:00] | kormoc: | it's there as a source code file somewhere in your tree |
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| [23:51:00] | abarbaccia: | jonK, my site should be up shortly – im ftping everything over right now |
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| [23:51:00] | doomed: | hi |
| [23:51:00] | mrplum: | hi |
| [23:51:00] | doomed: | wussup |
| [23:51:00] | doomed: | nice lotsa ppl's |
| [23:51:00] | doomed: | soo |
| [23:51:00] | doomed: | I have Gentoo |
| [23:51:00] | mrplum: | kormoc, damn i wish I knew what was causing my problem, but you must have been right about faulty hardware |
| [23:52:00] | doomed: | does MYTHTV work with FLUXBOX? |
| [23:52:00] | mrplum: | i was able to get by a second time without a crash |
| [23:52:00] | kormoc: | doomed, why wouldn't it? |
| [23:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | doomed: Isn't tied to any specific window manager |
| [23:52:00] | mrplum: | stupid nForce chipset, I blame it on that |
| [23:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | so fluxbox would be fine |
| [23:52:00] | kormoc: | nForce happens to be one of the best chipsets out there |
| [23:52:00] | mrplum: | hah |
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| [23:52:00] | doomed: | kormoc GreyFoxx 'cause I've read that MYTHTV uses some KDE thingies |
| [23:52:00] | mrplum: | I'd love to hear your argument for that |
| [23:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | doomed: It doesn't |
| [23:53:00] | mrplum: | maybe nForce2,3,4 ? not the first one |
| [23:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | It does use QT, but that's not a KDE thing. KDE just happens to also use QT |
| [23:53:00] | doomed: | aight here I have another question |
| [23:53:00] | doomed: | what's the best PCI tv tuner?? |
| [23:53:00] | doomed: | and external TV tuner? |
| [23:53:00] | kormoc: | MrChook_, my bro has a grand nForce mobo, never had a problem with it. |
| [23:54:00] | jonK: | speaking of hardware, bierdo, do I recall you saying that VIA north/southbridge sucks, especially for myhtv |
| [23:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | The PVR 250/150 are the best supported and most commonly recommended |
| [23:54:00] | iggy: | jonK: that is true |
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| [23:54:00] | doomed: | GreyFoxx PVR 250/150 ??? |
| [23:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes, the PVR 250 and PVR 150 |
| [23:54:00] | jonK: | I'm running a via kt7 ultra which uses the via chipsets for both |
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| [23:54:00] | kormoc: | doomed, you might wanna go to the site and read the faq. |
| [23:55:00] | jonK: | what would you suggest changing to for an AMD Athlon XP? |
| [23:55:00] | jonK: | Doomed, if you're going to go the 150 route, might as well get the pvr500 |
| [23:55:00] | doomed: | GreyFoxx are those PCI or external?? |
| [23:55:00] | iggy: | jonK: not a whole lot of choices |
| [23:55:00] | jonK: | pci |
| [23:55:00] | kormoc: | mrplum, that was to you |
| [23:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | pic |
| [23:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | pci |
| [23:55:00] | mrplum: | Well my beaf with it is this, the onboard NTSC encoder is horrible to use in Linux, the onboard ethernet drivers put a huge load on the CPU, having to use the proprietory drivers sucks, especially when they don't work right. I can't stand ahving a geforce2 mx |
| [23:55:00] | kormoc: | doomed, those are pci |
| [23:55:00] | doomed: | how about external?? |
| [23:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | *shrug* |
| [23:55:00] | kormoc: | doomed, as for external tuners, usually one would be using the cable box the cable company provided, so there's very little what is best as there is more what do I have. |
| [23:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't know many people using external tuners (not counting those using cable boxes) |
| [23:56:00] | doomed: | kormoc wait are you saying that PC can read cable directly without using the companies boxes?? |
| [23:56:00] | jonK: | i'm thinking about ordering one of the plextor ones with MPEG4 encoding, but frankly, i have more tuners than I'll ever need already |
| [23:57:00] | kormoc: | doomed, the pci cards can, aye, analog cable |
| [23:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | doomed Analog cable yes |
| [23:57:00] | doomed: | WOW |
| [23:57:00] | doomed: | that's awsome... |
| [23:57:00] | doomed: | I thought I neede the Companies box plus a PCI TV adapter |
| [23:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've been watching analog TV on my PC since back in 97 :) |
| [23:58:00] | doomed: | *needed |
| [23:58:00] | jonK: | for dish network you need box |
| [23:58:00] | abarbaccia: | jonK, www.abarbaccia.com — i have all my content in my notes, i just gotta add it in now |
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| [23:58:00] | doomed: | wait soo |
| [23:58:00] | doomed: | how about in case I have a LAPPIE?? |
| [23:58:00] | kormoc: | doomed, for any sort of digital cable you will need to use a box. |
| [23:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | wtf is a lappie |
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| [23:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | a laptop ? |
| [23:59:00] | kormoc: | doomed, a laptop isn't really ment for myth. |
| [23:59:00] | doomed: | kormoc ohh that's what I was talking about |
| [23:59:00] | Bearcat: | hey folks |
| [23:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | then you would look at a usb based tuner |
| [23:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | there are a couple out there |
| [23:59:00] | abarbaccia: | jonK, obviously i need to tweak the forum topics and a few other things – but it should be a good start |
| [23:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | the only one I know of people using with myth is the plextor |
| [23:59:00] | doomed: | GreyFoxx that's what I was refering to external |
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