| Sunday, June 19th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | johnboy: | should look something like the one that is on that website that I gave you |
| [00:00:00] | johnboy: | depending on your remote that is |
| [00:02:00] | rben: | I've got one of the grey and black remotes |
| [00:02:00] | johnboy: | with the colored buttons on the bottom? |
| [00:03:00] | johnboy: | hauppauge one? |
| [00:03:00] | rben: | nope, the colored buttons are in a square around the arrow keys |
| [00:04:00] | rben: | yeah, it's happauge |
| [00:04:00] | rben: | or rather hauppauge |
| [00:04:00] | johnboy: | ok then the file you need i think is http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/lircrc-haupgrey.txt |
| [00:04:00] | rben: | both lircrc files are there the .lircrc file in the mythtv directory and the lircrc file in the ./mythtv directory under /mythtv |
| [00:07:00] | johnboy: | i think one of them is for lircd and the other is telling myth what the commands from lircd should do in myth |
| [00:07:00] | rben: | k |
| [00:08:00] | rben: | I'll wget that file and see if it helps |
| [00:08:00] | rben: | saving the old one first |
| [00:09:00] | johnboy: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/lircd-g.conf.txt turns into /etc/lircd.conf and that tells lirc what the buttons mean, then the other one (lircrc-haupgrey) tells myth what the buttons do i believe |
| [00:09:00] | rben: | now, I guess I need to restart frontend? |
| [00:09:00] | johnboy: | yeah, maybe lircd too |
| [00:09:00] | rben: | k |
| [00:09:00] | johnboy: | i dont know how to restart services in debian thou :/ |
| [00:10:00] | Notorious: | as root |
| [00:10:00] | Notorious: | /etc/init.d/servicename restart |
| [00:10:00] | rben: | yeah, pretty easy |
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| [00:11:00] | johnboy: | oh ok, im a redhat guy so i dont know my way around debian distros |
| [00:12:00] | rben: | hot damn, works |
| [00:12:00] | rben: | very nice help there guys |
| [00:12:00] | rben: | my wife will be very happy |
| [00:12:00] | rben: | now I just have to make sure that lirc starts up on boot and all is golden |
| [00:13:00] | abarbaccia: | anybody here with an asus pundit? i have a question for them |
| [00:14:00] | rben: | anyone know where the lircd shoudl be started in rc5.d? |
| [00:14:00] | johnboy: | to auto start the service? |
| [00:14:00] | rben: | yeah |
| [00:15:00] | rben: | like should it be S45lirc? |
| [00:15:00] | johnboy: | daemonize, you tried googling "daemonize service knoppmyth" or something? thats something else I dont know with debian |
| [00:15:00] | rben: | debian uses directories rc5.d is run when you pick runlevel 5 |
| [00:15:00] | johnboy: | in fedora its something like: |
| [00:15:00] | johnboy: | # echo "/usr/bin/mtd --daemon" >> /etc/rc.d/rc.local |
| [00:15:00] | rben: | so you put in symbolic links to the service scripts in init.d |
| [00:16:00] | abarbaccia: | rben, usually you use the command "update-rc.d" |
| [00:16:00] | johnboy: | where mtd would be the command to start your lirc service |
| [00:16:00] | abarbaccia: | well, for debian its that |
| [00:16:00] | rben: | you just name them Sxxservice, where xx controls the order they are started in |
| [00:16:00] | abarbaccia: | rc.local would be kinda like a quick cheating workaround |
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| [00:17:00] | abarbaccia: | rben, you shouldnt have to make all those links – usually the command update-rc.d "startup script name" defaults ## |
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| [00:17:00] | rben: | abarbaccia: ah, ok |
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| [00:17:00] | rben: | that would be easier |
| [00:18:00] | Notorious: | you could also install lirc via apt:) |
| [00:19:00] | rben: | lirc is already installed |
| [00:19:00] | johnboy: | thats what i say :) apt-get is the best thing sense sliced bread man |
| [00:19:00] | rben: | just not set to start automagically |
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| [00:24:00] | abarbaccia: | rben, the quickest way to get what you want done, is just place a line in rc.local (if you use fedora which im guessing) |
| [00:24:00] | rben: | no, I'm on KnoppMyth, but I got it all set up now |
| [00:25:00] | rben: | now just have to reboot and make sure it works |
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| [00:28:00] | abarbaccia: | rben, knoppmyth has lirc configured for you and starts it automatically |
| [00:29:00] | johnboy: | i personally had problems with knoppmyth |
| [00:29:00] | abarbaccia: | johnboy, yea, myself as well, i prefer to customise things more |
| [00:29:00] | abarbaccia: | i mean, its a great distro – a LOT of stuff in there |
| [00:29:00] | iggy: | LFS 4 l1f3 |
| [00:29:00] | Bogus8: | anyone have any experience converting RM to VCD in linux (what programs to use)? |
| [00:29:00] | abarbaccia: | i just dont like the fact that if you go to add something extra, everything needs to be updated and then everything breaks |
| [00:29:00] | abarbaccia: | iggy LFS? |
| [00:30:00] | Bogus8: | linux from scratch |
| [00:30:00] | iggy: | it's teh ul71m@73 in customization |
| [00:30:00] | abarbaccia: | iggy, and the ul71m@73 in frustration |
| [00:31:00] | iggy: | teh |
| [00:31:00] | iggy: | you spelled it wrong |
| [00:31:00] | Bogus8: | LFS for the linux masochist |
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| [00:34:00] | johnboy: | abarbaccia, thats why i am using fedora, i kniow my way around and i can set up a tftp server for a mediamvp, setup a smb share to burn files to dvds on other machines and all sorts of stuff |
| [00:35:00] | johnboy: | im not advanced enough to LFS, although i DO want to make my myth box boot faster |
| [00:35:00] | johnboy: | and ideas on how to tackle that bad boy? |
| [00:36:00] | rben: | all is working! |
| [00:38:00] | johnboy: | sweet dude :D |
| [00:38:00] | johnboy: | im just trying to fight with myth mainly now because its 1) tearing on the TV screen and 2) the brightness/contrast is way off and if i try and fix it, it wont automattically apply after I come back to that channel |
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| [00:43:00] | rben: | huh, what board are you using? |
| [00:43:00] | johnboy: | pvr150 |
| [00:44:00] | rben: | that's the new cheap one? |
| [00:44:00] | johnboy: | i can use "g" to adjust it (mapped to red on my controller) and it will change the brightness and all, but myth wont apply the settings when i come back until i hit g again |
| [00:44:00] | johnboy: | yeah, $100, same as the 250 |
| [00:44:00] | rben: | we've got a 250 in one box and a 350 in the one I'm working on |
| [00:45:00] | rben: | huh |
| [00:45:00] | johnboy: | im planning on getting a 500 on top of this one... three tuners all together :) |
| [00:45:00] | johnboy: | the 150 is the same as the 250... it just uses less chips on the board |
| [00:45:00] | rben: | ah |
| [00:45:00] | rben: | nice |
| [00:45:00] | rben: | I'm going to put the 250 in this box along with the 350 so we have 2 tuners |
| [00:46:00] | rben: | then use the old box just for a frontend |
| [00:46:00] | rben: | of course, first have to get the wireless working again |
| [00:46:00] | johnboy: | wireless in linux... ewww |
| [00:46:00] | johnboy: | i just have cat5 cables taped down |
| [00:46:00] | rben: | well, this version of KnoppMyth comes with ndiswrapper, which is what I need |
| [00:47:00] | rben: | I hate cables |
| [00:47:00] | rben: | they are ok in the office |
| [00:47:00] | rben: | but not all over appartment |
| [00:48:00] | johnboy: | lol, i wanted to try and use wireless, but i got it working like this and didnt want to tempt fate |
| [00:48:00] | rinco: | i found wireless was alright after recordings have been transcoded |
| [00:48:00] | rben: | It's a chore if you don't have a wireless card with the right chipset |
| [00:49:00] | rben: | so you have them transcoded automatically? |
| [00:49:00] | rinco: | yeah |
| [00:49:00] | johnboy: | how do you set that up? |
| [00:49:00] | johnboy: | after they record it transcodes to mpeg4? |
| [00:50:00] | rinco: | its a tickbox in video settings of mythfrontend |
| [00:50:00] | rinco: | recording profiles etc |
| [00:50:00] | johnboy: | well, nevermind, that would prolly bring my little athlon xp 1800+ to its knees |
| [00:50:00] | johnboy: | oh yeah ive seen that |
| [00:50:00] | rinco: | i use celeron 900 |
| [00:50:00] | rben: | I've got a celeron 2.4G |
| [00:50:00] | rinco: | mythtranscode runs with a nice of -20 or something, so it doesnt get in the way |
| [00:50:00] | rinco: | although transcoding a 13 gig recording takes a while |
| [00:50:00] | johnboy: | i want to get a sempron to put in here, |
| [00:51:00] | rben: | so is that going to mean that I can't watch livetv over the network? |
| [00:51:00] | johnboy: | probably want to be wired for that i would think |
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| [00:51:00] | rinco: | well i can do livetv over wireless but the bandwidth is so tight that if i do anything else, it jerks |
| [00:52:00] | rinco: | but i reckon my g equipment is running like b |
| [00:52:00] | rben: | I'm thinking of getting a better antenna for mine, since it has to go through 2 walls |
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| [00:55:00] | johnboy: | that new mimo stuff might be worth looking at |
| [00:55:00] | johnboy: | and when the new N standard catches up that will probably rock the house |
| [00:55:00] | rben: | mimo? |
| [00:55:00] | rben: | haven't heard of the N standard either |
| [00:56:00] | johnboy: | mimo is some new technology... like the extreme G stuff that gives you a supposed 108mpbs |
| [00:56:00] | abarbaccia: | I need to find someone running an asus pundit because i have a quick performance question to ask them |
| [00:56:00] | johnboy: | and N is supposed to be some crazy new spec that uses three antennas per access point and has a big boost on throughput |
| [00:56:00] | johnboy: | abarbaccia, is that a SFF computer? |
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| [00:57:00] | rben: | huh |
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| [00:57:00] | abarbaccia: | johnboy, yea, www.asus.com – its a barebones, like 3" wide and 10" tall |
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| [00:57:00] | abarbaccia: | like 14" deep |
| [00:58:00] | abarbaccia: | real small – but i am having trouble getting Xv on the video card working, which is giving me terrible looking stuff on the TV |
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| [01:00:00] | johnboy: | nvidia card? |
| [01:00:00] | rben: | I picked up a little personal DVD player to help me debug getting TV OUT on the PVR 350 to work |
| [01:00:00] | johnboy: | fx5200? |
| [01:00:00] | abarbaccia: | no, its onboard SiS card, remember SFF |
| [01:03:00] | rben: | later guys, thanks for the help |
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| [01:05:00] | Bogus8: | is there a command line tool to convert rm to vcd |
| [01:05:00] | opello: | probably not directly ... |
| [01:07:00] | Bogus8: | opello: basically meaning it's more trouble than it's worth? |
| [01:07:00] | johnboy: | abarbaccia, i dont know that xvmc cooperates well with non-nvidia cards |
| [01:08:00] | opello: | Bogus8: not necessarily, but anything that you have that is realmedia probably is as good quality as another format that may be available |
| [01:08:00] | Bogus8: | opello: yeah, I'm just looking to be able to play it on set top dvd players |
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| [01:10:00] | opello: | there seem to be a lot for windows that the authors want you to pay for ... |
| [01:11:00] | Bogus8: | opello: yeah, I'm sure I can find something in windows... just I'm addicted to CLI tools ;) |
| [01:11:00] | abarbaccia: | I'm making a mythtv Ubuntu website – i have it on my comptuer and i'm working on it, but do you know any good place to go for webhosting thats cheap, but lets you use a mysql database? |
| [01:12:00] | opello: | Bogus8: oss would be nice too :) |
| [01:12:00] | Bogus8: | oss? |
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| [01:13:00] | johnboy: | abarbaccia, youre working on a ubuntu myth website, like a howto? |
| [01:14:00] | abarbaccia: | johnboy, yes, more of like a portal – its got forums and the whole deal |
| [01:14:00] | abarbaccia: | its running on my computer |
| [01:15:00] | abarbaccia: | and im adding content as we speak – its going to be all real nice – with files that are easy to download and hopefully everything will be great – but the site needs mysql (i got the whole package from www.drupal.org but it needs mysql) |
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| [01:17:00] | opello: | Bogus8: free software, requires real player/real one installed called 'tinra' for windows :( can't seem to find one for linux, but maybe you could do some ffmpeg or mencoder fu if you installed the real player codecs in linux |
| [01:18:00] | Bogus8: | opello: thanks... I do have an old laptop here that has real player installed ... just will take a while on a 600mhz system ;) |
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| [01:22:00] | Bogus8: | looks like mencoder might be able to do something... got to keep looking (comes with mplayer) |
| [01:23:00] | abarbaccia: | anybody know how much webhosting costs? All i need is one mysql database- i found one for $2 a month |
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| [01:25:00] | johnboy: | abarbaccia, is it viewable to the whole net? have you tyhought of using www.dyndns.org to setup your computer as the webserver (or a linux box?)\ |
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| [01:26:00] | abarbaccia: | johnboy, i don't want all the traffic going through my computer – nor do i trust my webskills so my computer will be at risk |
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| [01:27:00] | johnboy: | lol alright |
| [01:28:00] | abarbaccia: | johnboy, i could probably just use my mythbox but still, my webskills are ehhh |
| [01:34:00] | johnboy: | webskills as in setting ujp apache? |
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| [01:35:00] | abarbaccia: | webskills as in php and possibly having security holes that would put my sensitive data at risk |
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| [01:38:00] | johnboy: | make sure to setup firewalls at your router and you should be fine |
| [01:39:00] | johnboy: | i ran a webserver for about a month with SSHd open and httpd open... all that happened was attempted brute force attacks that never succeeded with my 15+ character passwords :) |
| [01:46:00] | dhofstra: | you could also enable/disable the port on your router pretty easily from it's web interface; sloppy, but works well |
| [01:47:00] | dhofstra: | or even just open the ports during hours you might actually need them open |
| [01:47:00] | abarbaccia: | I work for a large security firm, I know what goes on and what can happen – i don't have the time or effort to lock down my box to prevent attacks – its bad enough without any ports open – last thing i need to do is open the door |
| [01:47:00] | abarbaccia: | its worht the $20 a year for my frustration |
| [01:49:00] | abarbaccia: | I think 1.99 a month, that gives me php + mysql + cron job access is good enough for me!! |
| [01:49:00] | dhofstra: | until they steal your credit card number from the company, ha ha ha |
| [01:50:00] | dhofstra: | well, I guess you're only liable for 50 bucks anyway on fraud, so it wasn't really that funny |
| [01:51:00] | abarbaccia: | hahaha – you have a good point |
| [01:51:00] | johnboy: | had my debit card number stolen once |
| [01:51:00] | abarbaccia: | from a hacker? |
| [01:51:00] | johnboy: | they charged $1000 to it and i got all my money back... plus $8023 :) |
| [01:51:00] | abarbaccia: | woah |
| [01:52:00] | johnboy: | not sure, im from TX in the US though and someone in canada was using it at gas stations |
| [01:52:00] | abarbaccia: | you should calll the guy who stole it and tell them to do it again |
| [01:52:00] | johnboy: | $80.23 i mean |
| [01:52:00] | abarbaccia: | oh |
| [01:52:00] | abarbaccia: | lol |
| [01:52:00] | abarbaccia: | not nearly as cool |
| [01:52:00] | johnboy: | i wish 8023 :D |
| [01:53:00] | johnboy: | abarbaccia, let me know when you get it posted, i'll post a little blurb on the site i work for |
| [01:55:00] | abarbaccia: | awesome – thanks man – hopefully i'll get it figured out by the end of the week |
| [01:55:00] | abarbaccia: | and by then, i'll have some decent content on it – right now, its only a welcome page |
| [01:56:00] | abarbaccia: | sorry lol |
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| [02:08:00] | johnboy: | lol what was that |
| [02:08:00] | johnboy: | wondering what time it was? |
| [02:11:00] | abarbaccia: | yea – no idea – lol – i thought i was clicking on my name , but i missed |
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| [02:16:00] | m: | Does anyone have a pvr250 with the small black remote and a ~/.mythtv/lircrc file they can share with me |
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| [02:19:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | Heya |
| [02:19:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | I cannot change channels from within mythfrontend |
| [02:20:00] | m: | nah, I gots it. |
| [02:20:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | I googled it and some people seem to have problems with their "freqid" column in the database. Mine contains the same numbers as were in xawtv... is this right (I am from the UK) |
| [02:20:00] | m: | DaCrayZeeOne, did it ever work? |
| [02:20:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | m: I only just tried setting it up again yesterday |
| [02:20:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | (I havent used it for over a year due to not having a TV-license) |
| [02:20:00] | m: | DaCrayZeeOne, I would check mythtv-setup and under channel list (or something similiar) see if there are any channels there |
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| [02:21:00] | m: | a tv-license! I don't even want to know |
| [02:21:00] | m: | really |
| [02:21:00] | m: | no |
| [02:21:00] | m: | heh |
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| [02:21:00] | ** DaCrayZeeOne goes and does ** | |
| [02:21:00] | m: | You might need to populate your database with xmltv if that's what your using |
| [02:21:00] | m: | and associate your listings with your card's input |
| [02:22:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | Done that.... had to use mythfilldatabase --file |
| [02:22:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | Thats what I think I aint done – it says "Unassigned" |
| [02:22:00] | m: | yea try and select it to your tv listings you setup |
| [02:22:00] | m: | but hopefully you can make sense of what I'm thinking |
| [02:22:00] | m: | maybe by telepathy hhe |
| [02:23:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | Erm... |
| [02:23:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | Well... |
| [02:23:00] | johnboy: | tv license? you have to have a license to watch tv in the uk? |
| [02:23:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | I dont have anything listed in "Video sources" |
| [02:23:00] | m: | ah |
| [02:23:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | Thats a problem, right? :) |
| [02:23:00] | m: | that's one of those words I couldn't remember |
| [02:23:00] | m: | yea you need to set that up, and use xmltv to populate the uk listings |
| [02:24:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | How? |
| [02:24:00] | m: | or you don't have to, there might be an option to let you setup all manually |
| [02:24:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | johnboy, Yeah: about ?150/year |
| [02:24:00] | m: | well when you make a new video souce you pick you listings, UK I guess fo ryou |
| [02:24:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | Yeah |
| [02:24:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | but that uses the "radio times" which no-longer works |
| [02:24:00] | m: | and i dunno where the listings come from, us in north american need to create an account with out tv listing provider |
| [02:24:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | I am getting my data from bleb.org and using a program bleb2xmltv to convert |
| [02:25:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | But I dont know how to get the xmltv into the database |
| [02:25:00] | m: | there might be an option to import xmltv files manually I can't be much help there without reading hte docs |
| [02:25:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | "mythfilldatabase --manual --file 1 -1 /var/cache/bleb/listings.0.xml" is the current command I am using... |
| [02:25:00] | m: | mythfilldata --file maybe |
| [02:26:00] | m: | lemme run the setup prog, see the options |
| [02:26:00] | m: | one sex |
| [02:26:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | And it works fine... only now I dont got anything in "Video Sources" |
| [02:26:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | K |
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| [02:27:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | Perhaps I could edit the tv_grab_uk_tv script? |
| [02:27:00] | iluciv: | how do do halt x so that you can install nvidia drivers |
| [02:28:00] | m: | bah I really don't know without doing more thinking then I'm willing. there must be a couple UK users who have documented the process |
| [02:28:00] | abarbaccia: | DaCrayZeeOne, your problem is probably that you didnt associate your channel listings with an input connection |
| [02:28:00] | m: | abarbaccia, problem is xmtlv won't grab any valid uk listings I guess, he needs to convert them from another service |
| [02:28:00] | iluciv: | I know its got something to do with init 2 do |
| [02:28:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | abarbaccia, huh? |
| [02:29:00] | iluciv: | do I just enter that at cli and reboot ?? |
| [02:29:00] | GeckoFiend: | iluciv /sbin/telinit 3 |
| [02:29:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | iluciv, without the reboot |
| [02:29:00] | m: | init 2 is normal run level for me |
| [02:29:00] | GeckoFiend: | rebooting is for adding hardware and upgrading kernels |
| [02:29:00] | m: | oh, heh i'm too slwo on the respond, n/m that |
| [02:30:00] | iluciv: | thanks heaps |
| [02:30:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | m: full single user? |
| [02:30:00] | GeckoFiend: | m then you're running a non standard init setup |
| [02:30:00] | johnboy: | anyone in here played with the hauppauge mediamvp? |
| [02:30:00] | iluciv: | oops probs |
| [02:30:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | GeckoFiend, halting is for sleeping. |
| [02:30:00] | m: | I'm not one to conform |
| [02:30:00] | m: | although I wish my lirc would conform to mythtv so my remote worked |
| [02:30:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | lol |
| [02:30:00] | m: | stupid pitta |
| [02:30:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | I wish I had a remote |
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| [02:31:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | Im getting one in a few days when I add a DVB card to my box |
| [02:31:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | :) |
| [02:31:00] | johnboy: | ping DaCrayZeeOne |
| [02:31:00] | m: | i'm spacing out into 'irw' |
| [02:31:00] | johnboy: | err |
| [02:31:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | Anyway: ideas? Add the normal british one, then do mythfilldatabase --file |
| [02:31:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | pong johnboy |
| [02:31:00] | m: | it's fun to push the buttons then see them come over my ssh conneection |
| [02:31:00] | johnboy: | wow, only .98 from the UK? |
| [02:32:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | *shrugs* I got 2 MBit |
| [02:32:00] | johnboy: | nice |
| [02:32:00] | iluciv: | that command just gave me new command line so I ctrl atl backspc and nothing x still running |
| [02:32:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | It was 0.5 but then they upgraded like the whole coutry from 0.5 to 2 for no charge |
| [02:32:00] | m: | The latest version is 0.5.39. This release has grabber fixes for tv_grab_fr, tv_grab_huro and tv_grab_uk_bleb. |
| [02:32:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | it was great! |
| [02:32:00] | m: | looks like if you upgrade xmltv it'll fix your woes |
| [02:33:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | (Seriously, I aint joking – all the ADSL providers in the UK upped their 512 service to 2048) |
| [02:33:00] | johnboy: | free of charge? |
| [02:33:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | yup |
| [02:33:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | Totall free |
| [02:33:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | m: thanks :) |
| [02:34:00] | johnboy: | when i ordered mine, they upped it from 768–1.5mb |
| [02:34:00] | johnboy: | tjhat was nice too |
| [02:34:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | m: should I clear the database before then? |
| [02:34:00] | m: | when I put my .mythtv/lircrc file there, should it just work? or do I need to do something |
| [02:35:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | Ive had 0.5 for like 2 years, and suddenly it was 2... lol |
| [02:35:00] | GeckoFiend: | iluciv are you running knoppmyth? |
| [02:35:00] | iluciv: | also why would I be able to tune channels in backend but only get black screen in frontend Visionplus dvb-t card |
| [02:35:00] | iluciv: | yep |
| [02:35:00] | m: | DaCrayZeeOne, it think when you make a new video soruce it must put listings in its own table or something |
| [02:35:00] | m: | i wouldn't worry about it unless your anal retentive, or it doesn't work the first time around |
| [02:35:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | So I should clear the channel table or not? |
| [02:36:00] | GeckoFiend: | that's why that command doesn't work then. Knoppmyth is borked in a few respects, that being one of them |
| [02:36:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | OK |
| [02:36:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | Good idea |
| [02:36:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | Whats anal retentive mean |
| [02:36:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | ? |
| [02:36:00] | rinco: | pedantic |
| [02:36:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | You hold stuff up your arse? |
| [02:36:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | lol |
| [02:36:00] | GeckoFiend: | m all the guide data is stoed in one table |
| [02:36:00] | iluciv: | GeckoFiend: do you know the command or the init file I can edit? |
| [02:36:00] | m: | but it can distinguish between different video sources still? |
| [02:37:00] | m: | question is will the old channel data cause problems for new program data, when before no source was defined. |
| [02:37:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | How do I get myth to notice I have upgraded xmltv? Please tell me I dont have to recompile it... |
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| [02:38:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | A restart of mythbackend hasnt done it |
| [02:38:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | :( |
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| [02:41:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | >>> Merging media-tv/xmltv-0.5.39 to /.... doesnt give tv_grab_uk_bebo |
| [02:41:00] | iluciv: | thanks anyway got to go :( |
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| [02:43:00] | johnboy: | can anyone here think of any reasons my mythtv output to the TV is tearing during playback> |
| [02:44:00] | m: | tearing? |
| [02:46:00] | m: | if tearing is your TV has a green tint to it, then no. |
| [02:46:00] | m: | happens to me too though |
| [02:47:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | I got green when I used PAL-M instead of just plain PAL |
| [02:48:00] | m: | it's something to do with my TV out on the video card. only seems to affect certain videos, I think it's overlay related not sure |
| [02:48:00] | m: | that's my next battle once I figure out why mythtv doesn't speak to lirc |
| [02:49:00] | rinco: | any mythstreamtv users here? i'm trying to build ffmpeg/vlc like the readme says, but i could really use a list of deb -dev packages required, or something |
| [02:50:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | w0000t!! |
| [02:50:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | It works! |
| [02:50:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | you guys rock |
| [02:50:00] | m: | heh congrats |
| [02:50:00] | DaCrayZeeOne: | Now Im going to bed... its 3 am :( |
| [02:52:00] | johnboy: | no its like the image on the TV has a line going through it and above it the picture is on the next frame and below it its still on the current frame |
| [02:53:00] | m: | lame |
| [02:54:00] | johnboy: | i am not |
| [02:54:00] | m: | you are not lame? okay |
| [02:54:00] | m: | me either |
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| [02:57:00] | johnboy: | damn i wish i could figure out what the deal is with this thing |
| [02:57:00] | m: | i feel you |
| [02:57:00] | m: | not literally |
| [02:57:00] | johnboy: | i cant find anything with google either |
| [02:58:00] | m: | It sounds like tv out, maybe a loose cable? |
| [02:58:00] | johnboy: | no the cables are secure |
| [02:58:00] | johnboy: | someone suggested messing with the refresh rate but its not helping either "/ |
| [02:58:00] | m: | does it only happen on tv playback? or does it happen ont he myth menus too |
| [02:59:00] | johnboy: | tv playback |
| [02:59:00] | m: | trying to watch scrambled tv? |
| [02:59:00] | m: | :-P probably not |
| [02:59:00] | johnboy: | nah |
| [03:00:00] | johnboy: | the image doesnt tear on the monitor i have hooked up, only the TV |
| [03:00:00] | m: | oh weird. |
| [03:00:00] | m: | ah damn I wonder if the deb packages compile with lirc support by default |
| [03:01:00] | m: | stupid problem to be having, should have noticed |
| [03:01:00] | johnboy: | dunno |
| [03:01:00] | m: | typing outloud Iguess |
| [03:01:00] | m: | it does though |
| [03:03:00] | johnboy: | ? |
| [03:03:00] | m: | eh just ignore me |
| [03:03:00] | m: | play with your tv out on your video card I think |
| [03:03:00] | m: | maybe disable it, re-enable it, if you have any options tweak with them |
| [03:04:00] | m: | if it's going through a vcr you might try to hook the output up direct to the tv if you can |
| [03:05:00] | johnboy: | the TV only has an ANT in, no svidio so I have to run it through an RF adapter :/ |
| [03:06:00] | m: | is there a calibration on the rf adapter? |
| [03:06:00] | johnboy: | nope |
| [03:07:00] | johnboy: | its a pretty cheap one i think, its my girlfriends |
| [03:07:00] | johnboy: | but if i connect the computer to my tv it still does it |
| [03:09:00] | m: | finally it works |
| [03:09:00] | m: | johnboy, I thought the monitor it didn't go out of sync though? I'm confused |
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| [03:23:00] | johnboy: | the monitor doesnt, the TV does |
| [03:23:00] | johnboy: | thats why i think its a refresh rate issue or something |
| [03:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | hrm, some fucker appears to be sending out virii from a fake @phaze.org address with a message that makes it sounds like they are from this domain. sob's |
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| [03:49:00] | RossTFarian: | Do I want to enable OpenGL vsync in my mythtv builds? Where does it have problems? |
| [03:52:00] | hadees: | do be do be dooo |
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| [03:53:00] | iluciv: | anyone using knoppmyth?? |
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| [03:57:00] | Ashlar: | iluciv: yah.. there's even a channel just for it.. #knoppmyth :) |
| [03:59:00] | iluciv: | cool thanks |
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| [04:06:00] | iluciv: | ashlar: I need to get to init 3 to install nvidia driver don't I how come I can't ?? |
| [04:07:00] | iluciv: | init 3 nothing editing /etc/iniattb nothing |
| [04:08:00] | iluciv: | typing /sbin/telinit3 also nothing |
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| [04:20:00] | iluciv: | ok worked it out |
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| [04:27:00] | Chuji: | Anyone manage to get myth running on FC4? |
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| [04:30:00] | emes: | anyone know why when I play any nuv files not in mythfrontend, the aspect seems to be off |
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| [04:44:00] | Mrgoose: | hello |
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| [04:54:00] | zacs: | http://googlex.iamcannabian.com/ |
| [04:55:00] | rinco: | thats pretty cool |
| [04:55:00] | Mersault: | I'm setting up my first mythtv box by following the fedora/mythtv howto at wilsonet.com. However, I'm having trouble getting the tv out on my ati all-in-wonder 128 rage pro working right. I know the capture doesn't work (I already have capture covered), I just need the tv out working. Anyone have any suggestions? |
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| [05:01:00] | dhofstra: | zacs ... that'd be pretty cool if myth |
| [05:01:00] | dhofstra: | 's menu system worked zooming like that! |
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| [05:13:00] | zacs: | dhofstra: sorry, my kid pasted that |
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| [05:25:00] | levander: | What do yall think of the image quality of a PVR-350 encoded stream? |
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| [05:30:00] | m: | I think it's hot |
| [05:30:00] | m: | like me |
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| [05:33:00] | levander: | m, you talking to me? or just trying to get some people to flirt with you? |
| [05:34:00] | levander: | there is a good discussion somewhere of the various video codecs you can use with myth? |
| [05:35:00] | MonMotha: | not really |
| [05:35:00] | levander: | grrrrr |
| [05:47:00] | levander: | a lot of the people in the hardware database with a similar processor to me are using RTJPEG @ 320 x 256. What's better WinTV PVR hadware encoding, or RTJPEG @ 320 x 256? |
| [05:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | quite likely the pvr |
| [05:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | assuming you use a good bitrate |
| [05:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | plus using the hardware encoding uses basically no cpu unlike rtjpeg |
| [05:52:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: yeah, but I'd kind of rather use software encoding, just because in general software implementations (of many things, not just codecs) are of higher quality because it is easier for developers to fix bugs, and you can upgrade them |
| [05:52:00] | levander: | I'm trying to figure out if dual piii-550 is enough to run a software codec with myth |
| [05:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | It isn't |
| [05:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | And I can tell you that the captures off my pvr 250's looks as close to perfect as I could hope for |
| [05:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | The biggest issue is the quality of the TVout |
| [05:54:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: I've got no personal experience with the wintv pvr, but this is only review of it I've found: http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q2/tuner-comparo/index.x?pg=10 |
| [05:55:00] | levander: | isn't favorable, at all, to the pvr250 |
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| [05:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | They are comparing to the 150mce, not the 250 |
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| [05:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | Those I don't personally have, but I've yet to see anyone complain about them EXCEPT for that article which I read a while back |
| [05:56:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: hauppauge.com says that the 150 has the same quality encoding as the 250, lemme get the link for you |
| [05:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't need the link |
| [05:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | of course the maker of the card is gonna say that :) |
| [05:56:00] | levander: | lol |
| [05:57:00] | levander: | i was wondering why you would ever by a 250 instead of a 150, their comparison chart has the two as exactly the same |
| [05:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | "we are replacing the existing model with a newer and cheaper one we can make more money from....but it's just as good!" |
| [05:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | the 250's were out first |
| [05:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | the 150's are basically a newer model of the 250 |
| [05:57:00] | levander: | ohhhh, so you think there's actually a higher profit margin on the 150? |
| [05:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [05:57:00] | levander: | even though the 150's cost less |
| [05:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | despite the cheaper price |
| [05:58:00] | levander: | okay, now i'm getting somewhere |
| [05:58:00] | levander: | is the 350 any better, encoding wise, than the 250? |
| [05:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | though the chip that does the actual compression is the same on them, the tuners and control chips are different |
| [05:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | same compression as 250 |
| [05:59:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: ah! which explains why they can make the marketing claim about them being the same |
| [05:59:00] | levander: | same compression means same quality output? |
| [05:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | same chips :) |
| [05:59:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: oh, i understand same compression comment now, i was confused |
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| [06:00:00] | levander: | i was asking about the 350 and 250, the 350 produces any better video than the 250? |
| [06:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | The 350 however also has an mpeg decoder with tv out which is of really good quality as compared to chip vga cards |
| [06:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | no |
| [06:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | same |
| [06:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | the 350 is merely a 250 with a decoder |
| [06:00:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: now i'm really getting somewhere, finally |
| [06:00:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: can you recommend a tv out card? |
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| [06:01:00] | egeekial: | i just upgraded my nvidia drivers to 1.0.7664, i have a geforce4 mx 420, and i'm trying to use xvmc, but i get this error: "Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7664, but |
| [06:01:00] | egeekial: | this library is version 1.0.7174 |
| [06:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | the most popular as nvidia cards. better driver support in general, easy to setup and overall pretty good unless you get unlucky and get a bad one |
| [06:01:00] | levander: | egeekial: the kernel is still finding the old libraries on your system? |
| [06:02:00] | egeekial: | levander: i guess so... i uninstalled them... but i guess it missed them |
| [06:02:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: i thought neither nvidia nor ati had very good linux support? although nvidia is supposed to be better than ati for support |
| [06:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | nvidia releases drivers regularly unlike ati, and the support is "pretty good" |
| [06:03:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: i was wondering about the matrox cards, although I don't know how well the linux support is for them, and the intel cards, which I believe X.org uses as reference cards in their development |
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| [06:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | no iea |
| [06:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | no idea |
| [06:03:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: okay, thanks for recommending the nvidia cards though |
| [06:03:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: does make me feel better about getting one |
| [06:04:00] | egeekial: | any idea on how i can clean the old deps? |
| [06:04:00] | levander: | egeekial: i've never done what you're doing, i guessed that from the error message you put up, sorry |
| [06:04:00] | levander: | no idea how to clean the deps |
| [06:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | The TVout from my cards is pretty sweet. not quite as good as the output of my mvp but as close as I can hopefor |
| [06:05:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: any advantage to getting anything above a 6200 for a tv out? I like the low end just because it has a passive heatsink, e.g. no fan to make noise on the heatsink |
| [06:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | I can only tell the difference if I use them side by side and keep flipping beteen them |
| [06:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | levander: Not likely |
| [06:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | Most people are using GF4 MX440 or fx5200s |
| [06:06:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: you are using a nvidia card? |
| [06:07:00] | ** GotD0t rasises hand for the gf4 mx440 ** | |
| [06:07:00] | levander: | GotD0t: what you using for encoding? |
| [06:07:00] | GotD0t: | 250 |
| [06:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | 3 of my frontends have nvidia cards |
| [06:07:00] | levander: | 3 of your frontends?? |
| [06:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | the 4th is a mediamvp, |
| [06:07:00] | levander: | what's a mediamvp? |
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| [06:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | small hardware device with tvout and an ethernet jack. streams the video over and decodes it to the tv |
| [06:08:00] | levander: | when you said "output from my mvp, i thought you meant dvd instead" |
| [06:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | also make my hauppage |
| [06:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | made by |
| [06:08:00] | levander: | oh, i see... |
| [06:09:00] | levander: | GotD0t: what kind of processor you got that you decided to go with a pvr 250 for encoding |
| [06:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | there is a frontend on every tv in the house |
| [06:09:00] | GotD0t: | levander: i run a 1.8ghz |
| [06:09:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: so is a dual p3–550 strong enough to decode a wintv pvr 250 stream? |
| [06:09:00] | levander: | GotD0t: why not go with software encoding then?? |
| [06:09:00] | GotD0t: | levander: why? |
| [06:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | levander: there is no benefit to software encoding |
| [06:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | And it is a waste of cpu |
| [06:10:00] | GotD0t: | yea |
| [06:10:00] | Mrgoose: | yo |
| [06:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | levander: barely |
| [06:10:00] | Mrgoose: | anyone living near an office max |
| [06:10:00] | Mrgoose: | tomorrow |
| [06:10:00] | Mrgoose: | you can get a 120GB netdisk external drive for $40 |
| [06:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I have run a frontend on a 600mhz laptop once |
| [06:10:00] | Mrgoose: | no rebates |
| [06:10:00] | GotD0t: | and i got my card for like $75 american... how much do raw capture cards cost? |
| [06:10:00] | levander: | GotD0t: i don't know about myth specifically, but in general, it's "better" to do things in software because it's easier for developers to fix bugs, and it's easier for users to upgrade. |
| [06:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | levander: hardware is merely software burned to a chip |
| [06:11:00] | GotD0t: | hmm... interesting prospect Mrgoose |
| [06:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | and in this case the firmware is uploaded when the drivers are loaded so you can replace the firmware |
| [06:11:00] | Mrgoose: | yea im gonna go get one |
| [06:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | that's the direction most hardware is going |
| [06:11:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: yeah, but after you burn it to the chip, you can't fix bugs in it, and it's harder to upgrade |
| [06:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | levander: Which is why most new stuff these days using uploaded firmware |
| [06:11:00] | GotD0t: | well levander.... i havent had any issues with my 250 |
| [06:12:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: ahhh, didn't know about the firmware upgrades being so easy |
| [06:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | trivial |
| [06:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've changed mine several times over the years |
| [06:12:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: changed your firmware? |
| [06:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes, it's literally "uploaded" to the card when the driver is loaded |
| [06:13:00] | zacs: | uhm, firmware is usually written to an eeprom, so it can be rewritten... the new stuff is just saving the cost of the eeprom by having the driver load it |
| [06:13:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: i can overclock my dual piii-550 to a dual piii-612 mhz, I should probably do that to decode the streams from the pvr250? |
| [06:13:00] | zacs: | saying "it's burned to the chip" is downright wrong |
| [06:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | zacs. It's a description people understand. That'sgood enough for me |
| [06:14:00] | levander: | zacs: yeah, think grey was more making an analogy... |
| [06:14:00] | levander: | when i asked, he explained further |
| [06:14:00] | GotD0t: | "burned to a chip" is a quicker and easier description than zacs uhm, firmware is usually written to an eeprom, so it can be rewritten... the new stuff is just saving the cost of the eeprom by having the driver load it |
| [06:14:00] | zacs: | GreyFoxx: ok, well i must have taken it wrong |
| [06:14:00] | zacs: | burned to the chip implies never to be changed |
| [06:14:00] | zacs: | to me anyways |
| [06:14:00] | GotD0t: | hmm |
| [06:15:00] | GotD0t: | haven't you heard of a cd-rw? |
| [06:15:00] | GotD0t: | hehe |
| [06:15:00] | GotD0t: | :-P |
| [06:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | assuming you aren't programming a onetime programmable PIC :) |
| [06:15:00] | GotD0t: | you burn to those... but they're erraseable |
| [06:15:00] | levander: | does the nvidia 5200 or 6200 do any hardware decoding of the stream, or is it all on my processor? |
| [06:15:00] | zacs: | i think my concern was due to the initial question about hardware being worse than software |
| [06:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | levander: The cards do have onboard mpeg2 decoding abilities that myth can utilize |
| [06:16:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: so, it doesn't really matter that my processors are only piii-550's? |
| [06:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | levander: Not if you use an nvidia, and use xvmc for playback. |
| [06:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | xvmc is the library interface to the mpeg decoding abilities off the card. |
| [06:17:00] | levander: | is xvmc an alternative to some part of myth, or is it just an internal codec? |
| [06:17:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: i see, so it's not switching out some internal part central to myth |
| [06:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | no, it's an optioon that you can enable or disable |
| [06:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | assuming support is compiled in :) |
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| [06:18:00] | levander: | some guy in the hardware database said he was using mplayer instead of some myth player because mplayer used less resources on his slow cpu, i'd rather avoid something like that |
| [06:18:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: i got you |
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| [06:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't use it, but lots of people do |
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| [06:18:00] | levander: | don't use the myth player? |
| [06:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | don't use xvmc |
| [06:19:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: ah, i see, you must have faster processor |
| [06:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | depends on what you call fast. 2 of the frontends are 1.2Ghz athlons, the backend + frontend is a XP2500+. |
| [06:20:00] | levander: | so, it sounds like about 120 * 2 for 2 wintv pvr 250's, ~60 for a nvidia 5200 / 6200, ~$60 for a bigger hard drive, oh and $100 for that cool antec case I like... |
| [06:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | which case ? |
| [06:20:00] | levander: | i'm getting a link... |
| [06:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | the name is fine :) |
| [06:21:00] | levander: | don't remember name |
| [06:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahh ok |
| [06:21:00] | ** GreyFoxx giggles as he gets rid of 4 more source files from mythgame ** | |
| [06:21:00] | levander: | the overture II, http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=15730 |
| [06:21:00] | levander: | oh damn, forget a dvd/rw drive, another $40-$50 |
| [06:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, I can see they have added more holes in the case for airflow |
| [06:22:00] | levander: | sounds like for about $500 I can turn this old dual piii-550 i'm on now into a pretty kick ass pvr |
| [06:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I personally wont get another overture |
| [06:22:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: why not? you are comparing it to the original overture? |
| [06:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have the original. It's too big (imho) badly laid out, and has really bad airflow so you have temperature issues. They added the holes in the top of the case because of the overheating :) |
| [06:24:00] | zacs: | xvmc works for me until i put any OSD shit up |
| [06:24:00] | zacs: | then my video gets all stuttery |
| [06:24:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: surprises me that antec did bad air flow in a case, i've got two towers from them, never had a problem |
| [06:24:00] | zacs: | and once it's gone, it all fixes up |
| [06:25:00] | levander: | brb |
| [06:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | The case I REALLY want is like $800 USD, ehhe so I'll likely get one of these next : http://www.bytesector.com/data/bs-article.asp?id=493 |
| [06:25:00] | levander: | lol @ $800 USB |
| [06:25:00] | levander: | USD* |
| [06:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | Just can;t justify the $800+ :) |
| [06:25:00] | levander: | i'm checking it |
| [06:26:00] | levander: | wonder what kind of customer spends $800 on a case? we don't spend that much on $20K servers at work |
| [06:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | I would |
| [06:26:00] | levander: | lol |
| [06:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | if I wasn't such a tightwad :) |
| [06:27:00] | levander: | why is that thing $800+? i'm finding nothing special about it |
| [06:27:00] | GotD0t: | my question exactly |
| [06:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | Sorry I wasn't clear, let me rephrase "the case I REALLY want is 800, but INSTEAD I would get a thermaltake Tenor" |
| [06:28:00] | levander: | yeah, then that case looks pretty nice, now that i know it's not $800 |
| [06:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | I want one of these http://www.atechfabrication.com/HTPC_cases.htm |
| [06:28:00] | levander: | it's not my style though, i like more traditional styled stuff than the funk post-modern look like on that thing |
| [06:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | though I'll likely never buy one |
| [06:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | The Atech 3000,4000,5000 are pretty sweet |
| [06:30:00] | levander: | now i've seen everything, they really do want ~$800 for that thing |
| [06:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | Custom made to your specs |
| [06:30:00] | levander: | there's no front audio port on the 3000? |
| [06:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | vfs, volume knob(griffen power mate), media control buttons, purdy |
| [06:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | why would you want audio ports on the front of it ? |
| [06:32:00] | mchou: | anyone here seen "Batman Begins?" |
| [06:32:00] | levander: | one thing i see a reference to that I've been wanting, has anybody seen a slot loading dvd/rw drive? I know about a dvd slot loading drive, but not one that I can burn to. I don't think they exist in pc world. |
| [06:32:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: to plug in headphones |
| [06:32:00] | levander: | GreyFoxx: but maybe your right, i won't buy a desktop case that doesn't have front audio port for headphones, but on a HTPC, prolly doesn't matter as much |
| [06:33:00] | GotD0t: | i saw it tonight mchou |
| [06:34:00] | mchou: | GotD0t: was it really as good as ppl said it is (worth $10)? |
| [06:34:00] | GotD0t: | hell yea |
| [06:35:00] | mchou: | GotD0t: Stars wars was worth negative $10 in my book (saw that last wk). Lucas Should have paid me to see it. |
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| [06:35:00] | GotD0t: | mchou: amen to that |
| [06:38:00] | levander: | anybody think they'll ever do a CableCard tuner we can use under myth? They were telling me earlier today in this channel never. |
| [06:39:00] | MonMotha: | I wouldn't get your hopes up |
| [06:40:00] | MonMotha: | basically, you're asking them to give up their control of the stream to some random app. Basically, the cable card is the cable industry's version of the broadcast flag + some actual access control |
| [06:40:00] | levander: | You saw that the broadcast flag was struck down in court? |
| [06:40:00] | MonMotha: | yes |
| [06:41:00] | MonMotha: | difference is that the cable card is legal :) |
| [06:41:00] | MonMotha: | and a good idea, really...if only it were relatively open |
| [06:41:00] | levander: | So was the broadcast flag though, till it was struck down in court |
| [06:41:00] | MonMotha: | that's really kinda a contradiction there |
| [06:41:00] | MonMotha: | the bcast flag was untested legally, then found illegal |
| [06:42:00] | MonMotha: | the cable card is still in the first category I guess, but cable companies are given a lot more leeway |
| [06:42:00] | levander: | the cable card has been tested in the courts? |
| [06:42:00] | mchou: | levander: not unless M$ decides to bribe everyone re CableCARD. |
| [06:42:00] | levander: | mchou: who bribed everyone to get rid of the broadcast flag? |
| [06:42:00] | mchou: | levander: maybe bill gates was right, Without windows there would have been no linux :) |
| [06:43:00] | GotD0t: | why was the broadcast flag struck down in court? |
| [06:43:00] | levander: | I really don't know, but it would be the sweetest thing to have a cable card tuner in my myth box |
| [06:43:00] | levander: | GotD0t: not sure, eff.org has a bunch of info on it |
| [06:43:00] | GotD0t: | eh |
| [06:43:00] | mchou: | levander: no one. American Library Association and Public Knowlege won that in the courts :) |
| [06:44:00] | levander: | mchou: so why would we have to bribe everyone to get rid of restrictions on cable card? |
| [06:44:00] | mchou: | GotD0t: bottom line was FCC exceeded its authority to regulate the universe :) |
| [06:44:00] | GotD0t: | oh ok |
| [06:44:00] | levander: | mchou: so why is the FCC not exceeding it's authority keeping these restrictions on the CableCARD? |
| [06:44:00] | GotD0t: | well amen to that |
| [06:44:00] | mchou: | levander: cause of RIAA and MPAA and dirty politicians :) |
| [06:45:00] | levander: | mchou: lol, i'm kind of beating a dead horse aren't I? |
| [06:45:00] | MonMotha: | levander: the cable companies actually came up with the CableCARD standard amongst themselves, at least partially. The FCC says they have to offer them, though. |
| [06:45:00] | mchou: | levander: yup. |
| [06:45:00] | MonMotha: | the other thing is that the cable market is regulated differently than the broadcast market |
| [06:46:00] | mchou: | CableCARD is bs. Cable companies have no interest in making them successful. |
| [06:46:00] | MonMotha: | the broadcast market is considered to be more of a public property type thing. Cable is all privately owned |
| [06:46:00] | levander: | in my ignorant guess, the cable companies are playing right into our hands, introduce the technology that we want in the way they want, then, we'll find ways to use it the way we want. In this early stage of the CableCARD, I wouldn't expect it to be hacked, or available the way we want yet. |
| [06:46:00] | MonMotha: | mchou: they know that people don't like to rent boxes. They also know that they like to rent "things". People are much more likely to rent something small from them for $45/mo than a STB for $50/mo |
| [06:46:00] | MonMotha: | they're not dumb |
| [06:46:00] | mchou: | FCC mandated Cablecard only to level the playing field for technology companies. |
| [06:46:00] | levander: | MonMotha: I thought the broadcast flag protected dvd's also? |
| [06:46:00] | MonMotha: | levander: that's CSS. Totally different |
| [06:47:00] | MonMotha: | 100% completely different |
| [06:47:00] | MonMotha: | and broken, too |
| [06:47:00] | GotD0t: | heh |
| [06:47:00] | levander: | oh, didn't know the broadcast flag wasn't used for dvds |
| [06:47:00] | mchou: | MonMotha: huh???? |
| [06:47:00] | mchou: | what has more value? an integrated PVR from cableco or a plain jane cablecard? :) |
| [06:48:00] | MonMotha: | mchou: which would Joe Sixpack be more likely to do? Rent a CableCard from the cable co for $45/mo, or a STB for $50/mo? It's easier to shove this little device down their throats than a full STB. People aren't used to have STBs |
| [06:48:00] | GotD0t: | stb? |
| [06:48:00] | MonMotha: | mchou: I wasn't aware that 100% of cable co STBs had PVRs or that they didn't charge any extra for this "service" |
| [06:48:00] | MonMotha: | set-top box |
| [06:48:00] | GotD0t: | oh |
| [06:48:00] | mchou: | MonMotha: Joes sixpack would go for integrated STB/PVR from cableco. |
| [06:48:00] | levander: | i read the reason for the cablecard was that companies like Scientific Atlanta and Motorola were eating the cable companies profits with outrageous prices for proprietary equiptment. You buy one piece of equiptment for you cable network from Scientific Atlanta, you gotta buy all your pieces. This is my understanding of why the cable companies asked congress for the cable cards. |
| [06:49:00] | mchou: | MonMotha: Joe 6pack aint gonna go buy his own damn stb if cableco has an "alternative" STB. |
| [06:49:00] | levander: | With cable cards, the platforms open, sell your Scientific Atlanta stock, now. |
| [06:50:00] | MonMotha: | mchou: Joe sixpack doesn't want an STB. He wants to make his TV work. A CableCard does that |
| [06:50:00] | MonMotha: | everybody I've talked to hates set tops |
| [06:50:00] | mchou: | MonMotha: huh??? |
| [06:50:00] | GotD0t: | i dont hate set top boxes... i like them... they're purdy |
| [06:50:00] | MonMotha: | the only people I know who like their set tops are the ones who pay extra for the PVR model |
| [06:50:00] | levander: | so the broadcast flag was only for over the air broadcasts? CableCard's for cable systems, and css for dvd's. Those are the three DRM's for mainstream television? |
| [06:50:00] | mchou: | Joe sixpack doesnt care as long as he gets his PVR. |
| [06:50:00] | MonMotha: | levander: correct |
| [06:51:00] | GotD0t: | they make my entertainment system look more complete |
| [06:51:00] | MonMotha: | mchou: Joe sixpack doesn't know what a PVR is |
| [06:51:00] | MonMotha: | you vastly overestimate Joe sixpackl |
| [06:51:00] | mchou: | MonMotha: bs. everyone knows about tivo. |
| [06:51:00] | levander: | The CableCard has nothing to do with Joe sixpack, it has to do with the cable companies not wanting to pay through the nose for their cable equiptment. |
| [06:51:00] | MonMotha: | mchou: wanna bet? |
| [06:51:00] | mchou: | MonMotha: go find me someone that doesnt know what a tivo is and we can talk :) |
| [06:52:00] | MonMotha: | ok, I know of a couple people who have no CLUE what a TiVO is |
| [06:52:00] | mchou: | levander: you're wrong. |
| [06:52:00] | travolta: | whats tivo? |
| [06:52:00] | MonMotha: | all they know is that they hook the thick black wire up to their TV and pretty pictures show up |
| [06:52:00] | mchou: | CableCard is more expensive than STB for cableco. |
| [06:52:00] | MonMotha: | mchou: only because your cable co makes it that way |
| [06:52:00] | mchou: | MonMotha: huh??? |
| [06:53:00] | MonMotha: | oh please, which is more expensive? making a full STB or making a little PCMCIA formfactor card with a couple decryption keys? |
| [06:53:00] | mchou: | I'm talking about what Cableco pays, noth what they charge..... |
| [06:53:00] | MonMotha: | the market just needs to work that crap out |
| [06:53:00] | mchou: | BS. |
| [06:53:00] | levander: | mchou: if it all had to do with joe six pack, why go to congress? why not just do your own cable card? Reason they didn't do their own cable card: their cable network wouldn't work with CableCard's, and they had to get Congress to make Scientific Atlanta and Motorola make it work with their equiptment. See how much more simple that is than any joe sixpack explanation? |
| [06:53:00] | MonMotha: | set top boxes are remarkably expensive to build. All that RF stuff is difficult to design, difficult to make |
| [06:54:00] | levander: | If it were just Joe Sixpack, they'd just make the thing and not have to mess with Congress. |
| [06:54:00] | mchou: | levander: huh???? |
| [06:54:00] | levander: | MonMotha: and the set top boxes also have very high profit margins because of their proprietary designs, that lock you into a platform |
| [06:54:00] | MonMotha: | levander: true, though that's out the window these days, has been for a couple years |
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| [06:54:00] | mchou: | levander: you asserting it's cheaper for cableco to upgrade their whole infrastructure? |
| [06:55:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [06:55:00] | levander: | mchou: no, it's cheaper for cable companies to get Congress to make Scientific Atlanta make their existing network work with cable cards. |
| [06:55:00] | MonMotha: | the same thing happened with cable modems when they first showed up, before DOCIS was standardized |
| [06:55:00] | levander: | mchou: without Congress, Scientific Atlanta would never do it. |
| [06:55:00] | mchou: | CableCARD was pushed by technology vendors, not CableCo. |
| [06:55:00] | MonMotha: | sure they would, if the cable companies weren't such pansies that thing gubment regulation fixes anything. Just don't buy the damn thing |
| [06:56:00] | ** GreyFoxx shudders when thinking of the PRE-DOCSIS cable world ** | |
| [06:56:00] | MonMotha: | hell, go invent your own system if you want. You could make a killing |
| [06:56:00] | levander: | mchou: not what i read, i read cable companies wnated cable cards, to protect them from their equiptment makers, like above... |
| [06:56:00] | mchou: | levander: trust me, cablecos dont want cablecard to become a success. |
| [06:57:00] | levander: | mchou: why wouldn't they? |
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| [06:57:00] | mchou: | they've been dragging their feet for the last 4 yrs at least. |
| [06:57:00] | levander: | mchou: okay, they're slow and inefficient |
| [06:57:00] | MonMotha: | it is true that the cable companies like to rent out set top boxes, but if they can rent you anything on top of the normal monthly charge, they'll go for it |
| [06:57:00] | mchou: | and they just got another extension from FCC. |
| [06:57:00] | levander: | mchou: what have they got against cable cards? |
| [06:58:00] | levander: | and the $10/month for a stupid cable card is prolly 90% profit |
| [06:58:00] | MonMotha: | oh it is |
| [06:58:00] | MonMotha: | a full STB is MUCH more expensive |
| [06:58:00] | levander: | maybe even more than that, considering the rent the same cable card (no buying allowed) for years and years prolly |
| [06:58:00] | mchou: | losing their monopoly. They dont want companies like tivo to define your viewing experience (when they can be the ones) |
| [06:59:00] | MonMotha: | mchou: they don't have a monopoly. Many, MANY people have sat these days |
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| [06:59:00] | mchou: | MonMotha: go try buying a SAT PVR :) |
| [06:59:00] | MonMotha: | it's a perfectly valid alternative. If the cable co pisses them off, they'll go to digital sat. I know some people the only reason they don't have digital sat is that they don't want to haev to get like 15 sat STBs |
| [06:59:00] | levander: | and sat with cheap dual tuner tivos because directv broadcasts in mpeg, no expensive mpeg encoder required |
| [07:00:00] | MonMotha: | mchou: it's actually pretty easy anywhere outside of North America |
| [07:00:00] | levander: | mchou: i've got one, only reason i'm looking at myth instead of my beautiful directivo is I'm buying a condo |
| [07:00:00] | MonMotha: | everybody uses DVB-S, which mythtv can handle |
| [07:00:00] | mchou: | an open SAT PVR does not exist in North America. And guess why that is. |
| [07:00:00] | MonMotha: | with appropriate hardware of course |
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| [07:00:00] | MonMotha: | same reason an open digital cable PVR doesn't exist that can handle anything but unencrypted, free stuff |
| [07:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | mchou: Sure it does, just not public no without effort :) |
| [07:01:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: I said BUY :) |
| [07:01:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: for j. 6pack :) |
| [07:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | I didn't see buy in there :) |
| [07:01:00] | mchou: | [22:59:39] <mchou> MonMotha: go try buying a SAT PVR :) |
| [07:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | further up than what I was referring too :) |
| [07:02:00] | MonMotha: | mchou: in the USA? yeah, good luck |
| [07:02:00] | MonMotha: | sucks to live in the USA, huh |
| [07:03:00] | MonMotha: | in the rest of the world with digital sat (other than Japan and maybe South Korea)? DVB-S |
| [07:03:00] | MonMotha: | there is some DVB-S in the USA, but it's just the free to air stuff |
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| [07:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can get at the non free stuff , but it's certainly not a well supported thing :) |
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| [07:07:00] | mchou: | GreyFoxx: we talking j. 6pack :) |
| [07:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | fsck joe six pack :) |
| [07:08:00] | mchou: | j 6pack probably gets more than we do :) |
| [07:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | speak for yourself ;) |
| [07:09:00] | mchou: | haha!! |
| [07:22:00] | mchou: | MonMotha: where are you from? |
| [07:22:00] | MonMotha: | Indianapolis |
| [07:22:00] | mchou: | heh, you live in USA too, no? |
| [07:22:00] | MonMotha: | yes |
| [07:22:00] | MonMotha: | as I said, sucks, don't it |
| [07:23:00] | mchou: | haha! It sux, but not because of TV :) |
| [07:23:00] | mchou: | because of the damn ppl in office. |
| [07:23:00] | mchou: | and the stupid voters who put them there :) |
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| [07:27:00] | Mersault: | has anyone had luck making an all-in-wonder card work as a tv-out device? I have capture covered, it's just tv-out I need. |
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| [07:28:00] | mchou: | AIW video out should work just fine if using svideo |
| [07:28:00] | mchou: | dunno about DVI. |
| [07:28:00] | Mersault: | using svideo? what about composite? |
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| [07:28:00] | mchou: | same thing. |
| [07:28:00] | Mersault: | this is an AIW 128 rage pro |
| [07:29:00] | mchou: | should be no problem. |
| [07:29:00] | Mersault: | not one of the radeon based ones |
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| [07:29:00] | mchou: | rage pro?? |
| [07:29:00] | mchou: | that's like ancient. |
| [07:29:00] | Mersault: | agreed. |
| [07:29:00] | Mersault: | found hardware. |
| [07:29:00] | mchou: | then you on your own. |
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| [07:30:00] | mchou: | get a newer card would be my suggestion. |
| [07:30:00] | mchou: | $40 gets you a nice MX440 or whatever they are called these days...... |
| [07:30:00] | Mersault: | yeah, but everyone here is deriding me about linux's poor support... I figure if I can make this work I'll be able to drink beer in peace and enjoy my own smugness |
| [07:31:00] | mchou: | lol. What's more important, your price or getting myth working? :) |
| [07:31:00] | mchou: | pride* |
| [07:31:00] | Mersault: | I don't care about money or pride really, it would also be nice to get myth going tonight... |
| [07:32:00] | mchou: | well, go spend $40 and be done with it :) |
| [07:32:00] | Mersault: | they all know my choice of operating systems (mac on the desktop (laptop) and linux on the servers is vastly superior to windows anywhere |
| [07:32:00] | mchou: | you preaching to the chior man :) |
| [07:33:00] | mchou: | choir* |
| [07:33:00] | Mersault: | they just resent me for it. MX440. what about a decent remote? any suggestions? |
| [07:33:00] | mchou: | lirc has a nice list of remotes |
| [07:34:00] | Mersault: | oh, and anyone had any luck making mythtv work as a daap client for itunes music shares? |
| [07:34:00] | mchou: | choose one and be satisfied :) |
| [07:39:00] | rinco: | mersault: just run mt-daapd with the same music store? |
| [07:40:00] | Mersault: | I have mt-daapd running fine. I just want to access it from mythmusic. my myth box is not the one that contains my music. |
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| [07:43:00] | rinco: | ahh like mythstreamtv but for audio |
| [07:43:00] | brainwar: | i'd like to get some elses opinion on a bottleneck issue |
| [07:44:00] | rinco: | i also would like myth to front raop-play |
| [07:44:00] | brainwar: | mbe/fe and sbe/fe both play fine unless they both play at the same time |
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| [07:45:00] | brainwar: | the sbe/fe stutters w/packet loss when both are playing |
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| [07:47:00] | brainwar: | My first thought was network because of the pl, but the fact that there is no problem when mbe is not playing kindof rules that out |
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| [07:49:00] | brainwar: | so next I think disc access, but that just doesn't seem right either since disc access is only about 2.5Mb/s |
| [07:52:00] | brainwar: | anyone else having issues with xfs/nfs |
| [07:52:00] | xris: | nope |
| [07:53:00] | brainwar: | x86_64 by chance? |
| [07:55:00] | xris: | noep |
| [08:03:00] | xris: | hmm, well, seems that mythtv builds under fc4... |
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| [08:59:00] | crash-x: | is somebody here using lirc? |
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| [09:36:00] | crash-x: | can somebody who uses lirc test something for me please? |
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| [09:59:00] | zeeklancer: | Hye all :) |
| [09:59:00] | zeeklancer: | Can I run mythbackend with a tvtuer on it on a dual xeon and watch the vids with mythfrontend on my a64 system ? |
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| [10:08:00] | fryfrog: | zeeklancer: yes :) |
| [10:08:00] | fryfrog: | zeeklancer: that'd be a LOT of wasted cpu power though |
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| [10:09:00] | zeeklancer: | fryfrog: on wich end ? |
| [10:10:00] | fryfrog: | i run a 3 (formerly 4) tuner backend + frontend on an amd 1600+ |
| [10:10:00] | zeeklancer: | hmm |
| [10:10:00] | fryfrog: | BUT my 4 tuners are mpeg2 cards |
| [10:10:00] | zeeklancer: | I just hope that btaudio works, because this sytem does not have a sound card :( |
| [10:11:00] | fryfrog: | just 1 tuner? |
| [10:12:00] | fryfrog: | i'd give you about a 25% chance of btaudio working |
| [10:12:00] | fryfrog: | i tried 2 of my bttv based cards and neither of them worked |
| [10:16:00] | zeeklancer: | hmm |
| [10:17:00] | zeeklancer: | this system has no more pci slots, and no sound card :( |
| [10:17:00] | zeeklancer: | 0000:04:01.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 02) |
| [10:17:00] | zeeklancer: | that is what lspic shows me |
| [10:17:00] | zeeklancer: | the modules loads |
| [10:17:00] | zeeklancer: | and I have /dev/dsp1–4 |
| [10:17:00] | zeeklancer: | I just have no clue if they work :/ |
| [10:18:00] | zeeklancer: | looks like mythtv is compiled. |
| [10:18:00] | zeeklancer: | anybody know of any documentation for setting up mythtv without X well without X on the backend ? |
| [10:18:00] | zeeklancer: | hmm, could use vnc |
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| [10:29:00] | crash-x: | is here nobody who uses lirc with myth? :/ |
| [10:30:00] | zeeklancer: | no clue |
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| [10:42:00] | topside: | question – some may have a clue – anyone ever get yahoo messanger to broadcast tv from pvr-xxx device as webcam? |
| [10:43:00] | topside: | can do it on linux as a normal video source and it will output the last channel / source the tuner was set to |
| [10:43:00] | laga: | are you talking about windows? |
| [10:43:00] | topside: | yep |
| [10:43:00] | topside: | i can do it on linux just fine |
| [10:43:00] | laga: | you're sooo off topic |
| [10:43:00] | laga: | well, stay with linix, then |
| [10:44:00] | topside: | yea? doesnt mean people might not have done it |
| [10:44:00] | topside: | *might have done it |
| [10:44:00] | laga: | *snicker* |
| [10:44:00] | laga: | good luck |
| [10:45:00] | topside: | and – anything tvtuner for pc related is pretty near-topic |
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| [10:59:00] | Araldit: | Im using a 32" widescreen TV for mythtv. Which resolution does you guys use for a screen this size. Im currently using 1024x768, but havent played around with it yet. Any suggestions for a resolution to use? |
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| [11:15:00] | MonMotha: | Araldit: try putting it in its native res. Probably 720x480 or 1280x720 |
| [11:15:00] | MonMotha: | MAYBE 1920x1080 interlace if it's a fairly good hidef CRT |
| [11:16:00] | MonMotha: | I run my 46" DLP at native 720p (1280x720) and it looks great, though it's overscanned a bit more than I'd like |
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| [11:45:00] | veritanuda: | Morning/Evening/Aftenoon all.. :) |
| [11:46:00] | veritanuda: | Anyone any good and debugging nuvexport? Seems I have a broken pipe somewhere.. possibly from mythtranscode? |
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| [12:17:00] | Araldit: | MonMotha: Thx. MonMotha. It seems that the NVIDIA FX5200 cant handle other resolutions than 800x600, 640x480, 400x300 and 320x240, so the 1280x720 or 720x480 resolutions just falls back to 1024x768.. Did you do anything in particular to be able to use ur resolution set? The TV is the only screen connected, and Overscan in XF86 is not enabled. I use the nvidia-settings for that. |
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| [12:45:00] | Chuji: | Well, there went a day of my life I'll never get back trying to get Myth running under FC4 |
| [12:46:00] | laga: | hehe |
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| [12:55:00] | ** Chuji crawls under a rock ** | |
| [12:55:00] | ** laga searches the web for a good car mp3 radio ** | |
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| [12:57:00] | Chuji: | laga : Build you an epia |
| [12:57:00] | Chuji: | mp3car.com |
| [12:57:00] | laga: | Chuji: that'd cost me like 1k euro, and i dont have that money. |
| [12:58:00] | Chuji: | Boss has got one coming out soon that takes USB keys and memory sticks on the face |
| [12:58:00] | Chuji: | It's only like $200US |
| [12:59:00] | laga: | i just want a normal mp3 radio that will work with the integrated remote in the car – guess i'll be getting a sony cdx-r3300 with an adapter cable |
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| [14:23:00] | MrChook: | evening |
| [14:25:00] | MrChook: | got a bit of a problem I can't figure out yet |
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| [14:27:00] | MrChook: | i have a machine set up iwth debian unstable, a 2.6.11 kernel, mythtv 0.18.1, a twinhan DVB-T rx |
| [14:27:00] | MrChook: | oh, and no sound card, it's acting as a back end only |
| [14:28:00] | MrChook: | problem is that it seems to record the video just fine but no sound as far as I can tell... Im letting it recofrd something then downloading the file to a windows box and playing it in WMP |
| [14:29:00] | MrChook: | kinda stuck as to where to go looking for the problem |
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