| Saturday, June 11th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | hadees: | ShockValue, best bet is search the mythtv mailing list archives for your direct tv box model number |
| [00:00:00] | hadees: | ShockValue, another option if you never can get it to work would be IR blasting |
| [00:00:00] | ShockValue: | did that.. lots of people havin the problem a few weeks ago, but the thread tapered off with no solution :( |
| [00:01:00] | GeckoFiend: | ShockValue yep |
| [00:02:00] | ShockValue: | yep what? :D |
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| [00:03:00] | Kronuz: | hey, where do I change the NTSC-PAL stuff for xv (mplayer and xine) |
| [00:03:00] | Kronuz: | ? |
| [00:03:00] | GeckoFiend: | sorry yep I have directv. |
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| [00:03:00] | GeckoFiend: | and I have no problem with channels <100 |
| [00:03:00] | ShockValue: | ah.. what reciever are you using? |
| [00:04:00] | GeckoFiend: | Sat-A65 from sony |
| [00:04:00] | ShockValue: | hrm.. reading more on gossamer it looks like this might be a d10–100 only problem.. i guess DirectV sent an upgrade via satelite that hozed it |
| [00:05:00] | hadees: | ShockValue, sounds like you need to get an IR blaster atleast temp |
| [00:05:00] | ShockValue: | sounds like i need a reciever that DIrectV cant "upgrade" for me :) |
| [00:06:00] | hadees: | or drop direct tv |
| [00:06:00] | GeckoFiend: | hadees that's not an option for a lot of folks |
| [00:06:00] | GeckoFiend: | like me for instance |
| [00:07:00] | hadees: | i wonder if i can sue direct tv for bombarding me from space with signals |
| [00:07:00] | hadees: | they could give me cancer |
| [00:07:00] | JonK: | of course you can, winning such a suit, however, quite another matter |
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| [00:16:00] | SarahEmm: | hihi! |
| [00:17:00] | ** SarahEmm finally picked up a PVR-500, woo! :) ** | |
| [00:17:00] | Kronuz: | :( |
| [00:17:00] | JonK: | do you have it working? |
| [00:17:00] | SarahEmm: | Kronuz: mew? |
| [00:17:00] | SarahEmm: | JonK: not yet. just opened the box right now |
| [00:17:00] | Kronuz: | I'm still having problems with xv (it's on b&n and with a green block on the bottom) |
| [00:18:00] | SarahEmm: | b&n? |
| [00:18:00] | Kronuz: | while playing something on either mplayer or xine using xv in my pvr350 |
| [00:18:00] | Kronuz: | I think it's a PAL-NTSC problem |
| [00:18:00] | JonK: | best of luck, I've only been able to get 1 tuner working, and then with a hideous tinny scracthy sound quality |
| [00:18:00] | SarahEmm: | JonK: it's going in my devel backend right now anyway, as i have to get some kind of closed captioning support working before i use it.. this'll let me hack away at that anyway tho |
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| [00:18:00] | mchou: | SarahEmm: did yours come with an extension bracket? |
| [00:18:00] | SarahEmm: | yeah, it did. that was unexpected..... |
| [00:18:00] | SarahEmm: | i thought that was a seperate buy |
| [00:18:00] | mchou: | hmm, nice. |
| [00:19:00] | Kronuz: | but I don't know how to fic it, I've read the ivtv mailing lists, but couldn't find how to fix it |
| [00:19:00] | mchou: | where did you buy it? |
| [00:19:00] | SarahEmm: | mchou: Canada Computers, a local store chain |
| [00:19:00] | JonK: | mine did too — what is that for? if i want to have seperate signal into each tuner? |
| [00:19:00] | SarahEmm: | jonk: if you feed it svideo or composite, the board itself only has one set of ports |
| [00:19:00] | mchou: | JonK: for anothe svid/composite input |
| [00:19:00] | SarahEmm: | so you need the bracket for the other ports |
| [00:19:00] | SarahEmm: | i'm feeding it cable input, so i don't need it |
| [00:19:00] | JonK: | oh... |
| [00:20:00] | JonK: | im feeding cable too, so i didn't use it either |
| [00:20:00] | mchou: | SarahEmm: how much was it in CDN$? |
| [00:20:00] | mchou: | SarahEmm: or US$ :) |
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| [00:22:00] | mchou: | JonK: where did you get your pvr500? |
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| [00:23:00] | SarahEmm: | mchou: $184 CDN |
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| [00:23:00] | mchou: | SarahEmm: hmm, not to bad. I think that translates to US$140 or so..... |
| [00:25:00] | SarahEmm: | yeah, something like that |
| [00:25:00] | Kronuz: | HELP!! |
| [00:25:00] | SarahEmm: | very reasonable imho for a dual tuner card :) |
| [00:25:00] | Kronuz: | :P |
| [00:25:00] | mchou: | SarahEmm: take a close up pic of it b4 you put it in the computer :) |
| [00:26:00] | SarahEmm: | hopefully i can get it running and hack up some CC code for it |
| [00:26:00] | SarahEmm: | mchou: whatcha looking for? |
| [00:26:00] | ** Kronuz is crying for help ** | |
| [00:26:00] | mchou: | what does the label on the tuner say? |
| [00:26:00] | mchou: | like what rev.... |
| [00:26:00] | SarahEmm: | ntsc/ntsc-j 23552 rev d592 |
| [00:26:00] | SarahEmm: | on each tuner module |
| [00:26:00] | mchou: | wow, thet have a 592 now?? |
| [00:27:00] | mchou: | there is 292,492, and now 592. |
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| [00:27:00] | SarahEmm: | evidently heh |
| [00:27:00] | mchou: | SarahEmm: be interested in what tuner type it comes up with in tveeprom :) |
| [00:27:00] | splat1 is now known as splAt1 | |
| [00:27:00] | SarahEmm: | *nods* we'll see |
| [00:28:00] | SarahEmm: | i'll drop it in my myth devel backend in a little bit |
| [00:28:00] | SarahEmm: | see what i can get out of it before i dig into code :) |
| [00:28:00] | splAt1 is now known as splat1 | |
| [00:29:00] | mchou: | JonK: you know what rev 500 you got? |
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| [00:31:00] | JonK: | no i don't but i have 2 to try |
| [00:32:00] | JonK: | stupid web shopping carts |
| [00:32:00] | SarahEmm: | heh |
| [00:32:00] | JonK: | i've only tried one |
| [00:32:00] | ** SarahEmm bought hers at a brick and mortar store.. ** | |
| [00:32:00] | SarahEmm: | been talking about getting one for months, but now i have a bit of time to work on it |
| [00:32:00] | JonK: | i actually ordered one from buy.com, they sent me a "it's backorded, click here to cancel" message |
| [00:33:00] | JonK: | so i did, and ordered one from another website |
| [00:33:00] | JonK: | then i get teh message "your order has shipped" |
| [00:33:00] | SarahEmm: | doh! |
| [00:33:00] | SarahEmm: | quad-tuner box? ;) |
| [00:33:00] | JonK: | quint! |
| [00:33:00] | SarahEmm: | nice! |
| [00:33:00] | JonK: | have a pvr350 in it already |
| [00:33:00] | SarahEmm: | i have a single bttv right now doing software MPEG4 because i wanted something working fast without coding anything |
| [00:33:00] | JonK: | but modprobe ivtv only gets one tuner loading |
| [00:33:00] | SarahEmm: | i've been running that for like 2 years now on myth... |
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| [00:34:00] | SarahEmm: | but when the -500 came out, i wanted one 'cuz i only have one PCI slot, so this will give me two tuners in that space, plus make it hardware encoded:) |
| [00:34:00] | SarahEmm: | recent CVS of ivtv? |
| [00:34:00] | mchou: | JonK: put ivtv log in pastebin pls. |
| [00:34:00] | Beirdo: | SarahEmm: you went to Canada Computers? |
| [00:34:00] | SarahEmm: | Beirdo: yeah, i get a lot of stuff there why? |
| [00:34:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [00:34:00] | Beirdo: | I thought so |
| [00:34:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: what's wrong with them? :) |
| [00:34:00] | Beirdo: | nothing |
| [00:35:00] | Beirdo: | I buy almost all my stuff from them |
| [00:35:00] | SarahEmm: | *confused* |
| [00:35:00] | SarahEmm: | okay |
| [00:35:00] | Beirdo: | the only place in town that had the -500 that I saw |
| [00:35:00] | SarahEmm: | Beirdo: finally got the PVR-500 i've been wanting to get for like the last 3 months :) |
| [00:35:00] | SarahEmm: | yeah, i know |
| [00:35:00] | Beirdo: | well done :) |
| [00:35:00] | SarahEmm: | and the north york store isn't far from me |
| [00:35:00] | mchou: | They must be the frys equivalent in canada :) |
| [00:35:00] | Beirdo: | the College St one is close to me |
| [00:35:00] | SarahEmm: | Beirdo: don't say that yet, it's not installed or working or coded on yet ;) |
| [00:35:00] | Beirdo: | ;) |
| [00:35:00] | SarahEmm: | mchou: not even close. |
| [00:35:00] | SarahEmm: | mchou: but they have a fair bit of geek gear. |
| [00:36:00] | SarahEmm: | i still make a frys run whenever i'm in CA. |
| [00:36:00] | mchou: | hehe, yeah. |
| [00:36:00] | Beirdo: | they are a Chinese-run computer chop-shop :) |
| [00:36:00] | mchou: | I think there might be one in Chicago area now :) |
| [00:37:00] | CyberKnet: | a Computers Canada in Chicago, eh? |
| [00:37:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: haha |
| [00:37:00] | SarahEmm: | mchou: coolies :) i'm in northern CA every couple months anyway so i head to frys then... |
| [00:37:00] | mchou: | do they recycle? |
| [00:37:00] | SarahEmm: | pick up enough penguin mints to get me through the next few months ;) |
| [00:37:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: no, fool, a frys in chicago. |
| [00:37:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: it was a joke, silly =) |
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| [00:40:00] | SarahEmm: | any info i should record off the PVR-500 board before i put it in? |
| [00:40:00] | SarahEmm: | on bttv cards i'm used to recording tuner and chipset info first.. |
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| [00:50:00] | mchou: | SarahEmm: nah, the tuner label is probably sufficient |
| [00:50:00] | SarahEmm: | k |
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| [00:50:00] | mchou: | There is always Murphys Law :) |
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| [00:58:00] | SarahEmm: | heh |
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| [01:08:00] | Kronuz: | hey, how come every time I tun xing when I exit from it, MythTV doesn't get the focus back? |
| [01:08:00] | Beirdo: | sigh |
| [01:09:00] | Beirdo: | it's called window managers |
| [01:09:00] | Beirdo: | we told you this before, did we not? |
| [01:09:00] | Kronuz: | Beirdo: :P |
| [01:09:00] | ** Beirdo is doing an emerge world to update the asterisk box ** | |
| [01:10:00] | mchou: | huh?? Since when did Beirdo becom a gentoo user? :) |
| [01:10:00] | SarahEmm: | Beirdo: yay for asterisk :) |
| [01:10:00] | Beirdo: | pay attention |
| [01:10:00] | ** SarahEmm has been coding on * lately... ** | |
| [01:10:00] | Beirdo: | I've been using gentoo for asterisk for months |
| [01:11:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: haha |
| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | SarahEmm: how's that stuff coming? TDD, right? |
| [01:11:00] | mchou: | Beirdo becomes a clueless gentoo use :) |
| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | I'm a clueful one |
| [01:11:00] | SarahEmm: | Beirdo: yeah, stabilizing the TDD/TTY support in asterisk. the core asterisk stuff is *almost* fully working, i have another 2 bugfix patches to submit... |
| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | and su is fucked |
| [01:11:00] | SarahEmm: | once that's done, i start writing apps for stuff like textmail and textconferencing |
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| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | coolness |
| [01:12:00] | SarahEmm: | but i think i take a little break from * for a bit to work on ivtv heh |
| [01:12:00] | Beirdo: | good idea :) |
| [01:12:00] | SarahEmm: | anyone know where the slot bracket with the extra connectors plugs into the PVR-500? |
| [01:12:00] | Beirdo: | gotta get your new toy running to your satisfaction |
| [01:12:00] | SarahEmm: | there's two sockets on the card, Header1 and Header2... i can assume header1, but with no docs.. |
| [01:13:00] | Beirdo: | hehe, they sell em OEM? |
| [01:13:00] | SarahEmm: | yeah |
| [01:13:00] | Beirdo: | cheap little bastards |
| [01:13:00] | SarahEmm: | there's no non-OEM 500 is there? |
| [01:13:00] | Beirdo: | not sure |
| [01:13:00] | Beirdo: | but Canada Computers are definitely cheap little bastards |
| [01:13:00] | JonK: | from dmesg: kernel: No module symbols loaded – kernel modules not enabled. |
| [01:13:00] | Beirdo: | which is why I shop there :) |
| [01:13:00] | JonK: | what the hell is going on? |
| [01:14:00] | Beirdo: | JonK: you have a kernel with no modules support |
| [01:14:00] | JonK: | then why does it probe and load modules? |
| [01:14:00] | Beirdo: | hmm |
| [01:14:00] | JonK: | why can I lsmod rmmod and insmod them? |
| [01:14:00] | ** Beirdo shrugs ** | |
| [01:14:00] | SarahEmm: | Beirdo: *nods* true :) |
| [01:14:00] | Beirdo: | that's what the error is seeming to say |
| [01:14:00] | Beirdo: | I have about $1500 slated to go to them soon |
| [01:14:00] | SarahEmm: | Beirdo: i'll assume it plugs into Header1... the doc link on hauppauge.com gives a 403 :P |
| [01:15:00] | Beirdo: | rebuilding my PVR from scratch |
| [01:15:00] | Beirdo: | AMD64, 2 PVR-500 |
| [01:15:00] | Beirdo: | hhee |
| [01:15:00] | Beirdo: | silverstone LC10 |
| [01:15:00] | Beirdo: | nvidia 6600GT |
| [01:15:00] | Beirdo: | should be fun |
| [01:15:00] | SarahEmm: | nice! |
| [01:16:00] | Beirdo: | dunno if it will physically fit where I want it, but I'll make do |
| [01:16:00] | Beirdo: | and it will be running ubuntu |
| [01:16:00] | Beirdo: | let me know if you want ubuntu CDs, I have a stack of em |
| [01:17:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:17:00] | sphing: | does anyone have myth on a mini-itx |
| [01:17:00] | Beirdo: | I'm sure someone does |
| [01:18:00] | j-rod: | Yay, FC4 isos are final and getting pushed to mirrors... |
| [01:18:00] | sphing: | i have a %cpu question |
| [01:18:00] | Beirdo: | and another $650 for a 3ware 9500S-8 |
| [01:18:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:18:00] | ** SarahEmm semihere for a bit shuffling cards around in her devel box to make room for the -500 and the other bracket ** | |
| [01:18:00] | sphing: | beirdo: side ? do you use asterisk? |
| [01:18:00] | Beirdo: | hmm? |
| [01:18:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [01:18:00] | Beirdo: | I use asterisk all the time |
| [01:19:00] | SarahEmm: | asterisk++ |
| [01:19:00] | sphing: | ... the pbx |
| [01:19:00] | Beirdo: | hell ya |
| [01:19:00] | sphing: | yea i saw you in the chat.. you like it? |
| [01:19:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [01:19:00] | mchou: | all pvr500 are OEM |
| [01:19:00] | Beirdo: | I am only on the phone like 1–2hr/day |
| [01:20:00] | sphing: | was it tough to setup? |
| [01:20:00] | Beirdo: | harder than myth |
| [01:20:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
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| [01:20:00] | Beirdo: | but it works pretty well |
| [01:21:00] | j-rod: | I'm getting there (asterisk) slowly |
| [01:21:00] | sphing: | alright.. cause i think i'm gonna start playing with it |
| [01:21:00] | j-rod: | we're switching to vonage to start |
| [01:21:00] | j-rod: | baby steps |
| [01:21:00] | sphing: | yea i'm gonna switch to packet8 |
| [01:21:00] | Beirdo: | eww |
| [01:21:00] | Beirdo: | vonage-- |
| [01:21:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [01:21:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:22:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: watch their termination fees, etc |
| [01:22:00] | sphing: | vonage doesn't have my area code |
| [01:22:00] | sphing: | amazingly |
| [01:22:00] | Beirdo: | and I think CyberKnet might have a PAP2 you can use |
| [01:22:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [01:22:00] | Beirdo: | unless he already sold it |
| [01:22:00] | sphing: | i gotta do alot of research |
| [01:22:00] | Beirdo: | Vonage has my area code, but then again, I'm at the center of the universe... |
| [01:23:00] | j-rod: | heh |
| [01:23:00] | Beirdo: | they can't do Canada without Toronto :) |
| [01:23:00] | sphing: | .. my front end is having some serious pause issues |
| [01:23:00] | sphing: | prebuffering pause.... is causing a half sec jolt |
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| [01:24:00] | j-rod: | the fun part might be making my ADT alarm system work with it |
| [01:24:00] | Beirdo: | sphing: what's the setup? |
| [01:24:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: yeah. :) |
| [01:24:00] | j-rod: | Ademco panel, which supposedly, is proprietarificationalized for ADT in a crappy way |
| [01:24:00] | fatmatt: | anyone having issues apt getting stuf (specifically source) from mdz? |
| [01:25:00] | ** Beirdo uses CS ** | |
| [01:25:00] | sphing: | Beirdo: its a M10000 as the front end |
| [01:25:00] | Beirdo: | CVS even |
| [01:25:00] | fatmatt: | Failed to fetch http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists . . . 0.18.1-1.dsc 404 Not Found |
| [01:25:00] | sphing: | I dont get the same jolt on the backend |
| [01:25:00] | Beirdo: | sphing: OK, what the CPU usage like? |
| [01:25:00] | sphing: | yea thats what i was asking earlier |
| [01:25:00] | j-rod: | not sure how nice vonage and asterisk will play together... |
| [01:25:00] | sphing: | like 89% |
| [01:25:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: they don't |
| [01:25:00] | j-rod: | probably should have read up on things, but hey |
| [01:25:00] | Beirdo: | not at all |
| [01:26:00] | SarahEmm: | woo. card and bracket installed, tokenring card moved to make room. |
| [01:26:00] | SarahEmm: | :) |
| [01:26:00] | j-rod: | TokenRing?!?!? |
| [01:26:00] | j-rod: | wow |
| [01:26:00] | j-rod: | oldskool |
| [01:26:00] | SarahEmm: | heh |
| [01:26:00] | SarahEmm: | that's my workbench PC |
| [01:26:00] | SarahEmm: | tokenring, ethernet, and FDDI in it |
| [01:26:00] | mchou: | SarahEmm: haha, you an old ibm geek? |
| [01:26:00] | SarahEmm: | to connect to the lab |
| [01:26:00] | Beirdo: | sphing: hmmm, you may need to tweak some bitrates, etc to make it easier on the frontend |
| [01:26:00] | SarahEmm: | mchou: yes, but that's only partially related :) this is the workbench box which connects into the cisco lab |
| [01:27:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:27:00] | sphing: | Beirdo: under setup? |
| [01:27:00] | Beirdo: | you have a cisco lab at HOME? |
| [01:27:00] | SarahEmm: | yeah |
| [01:27:00] | SarahEmm: | working on my CCIE |
| [01:27:00] | sphing: | this is the first time i've actually got myth working |
| [01:27:00] | Beirdo: | you ARE a geek |
| [01:27:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:27:00] | SarahEmm: | lol |
| [01:27:00] | SarahEmm: | yeah, i am |
| [01:27:00] | SarahEmm: | it's my job.. :) |
| [01:27:00] | Beirdo: | sphing: yes, recording profiles, etc |
| [01:27:00] | Beirdo: | oh FFS... it's emerging net-snmp |
| [01:28:00] | j-rod: | I'm gonna start super-cluster-geekin' it in two weeks... |
| [01:28:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:28:00] | ** j-rod does another happy dance ** | |
| [01:29:00] | ** Beirdo does a happy dance too... invoiced for 9 weeks today ** | |
| [01:29:00] | hadees: | if i want to use gdb on mythmusic do i only need to enable debug in the inital mythtv install or is there something i need to set in the configure for mythplugins |
| [01:30:00] | Beirdo: | hadees: I think you need to hack it, that was missed or something |
| [01:30:00] | ** j-rod has a new employer, for those who don't know: http://www.linuxnetworx.com/ ** | |
| [01:30:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: you start when again? |
| [01:30:00] | j-rod: | I'm the model on the front page. |
| [01:30:00] | j-rod: | :) |
| [01:30:00] | j-rod: | 27th |
| [01:30:00] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [01:31:00] | j-rod: | I fly to SLC the evening of the 26th for a lovely two weeks in Bluffdale |
| [01:31:00] | mchou: | I'm surprised that Uath is the home for linux clustering :) |
| [01:31:00] | Beirdo: | congrats again, j-rod |
| [01:31:00] | j-rod: | cheap rent |
| [01:31:00] | j-rod: | danke |
| [01:32:00] | Beirdo: | hopefully you will enjoy not working for spamming bastards anymore :) |
| [01:32:00] | j-rod: | Its pretty cool, my cohorts here are all really happy for me too. Was mildly afraid they'd all hate me suddenly. :) |
| [01:32:00] | j-rod: | true dat |
| [01:33:00] | ** Beirdo can't wait to get paid :) ** | |
| [01:33:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:33:00] | SarahEmm: | hehe |
| [01:33:00] | j-rod: | And of course, I'm doing back-flips over not having to be ashamed of what the company I work for does... :) |
| [01:33:00] | Beirdo: | my bank must fuckin hate me |
| [01:33:00] | j-rod: | Mine likes me. |
| [01:33:00] | Beirdo: | bring in 5-figure cheques every few months when I remember to finally invoice |
| [01:33:00] | j-rod: | I just used them to help finance a Chevy Tahoe LT last night. |
| [01:34:00] | j-rod: | Beirdo, you work for MCI CN as a contractor? |
| [01:34:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [01:34:00] | Beirdo: | MCI CA |
| [01:34:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [01:34:00] | j-rod: | pthbt |
| [01:34:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:34:00] | j-rod: | CA to me = California |
| [01:34:00] | j-rod: | :) |
| [01:34:00] | Beirdo: | CN is somewhere else |
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| [01:34:00] | ** KarlosII ponders if talking about whether talking about tvshows on freenode as long as it don't relate p2p, or torrents, or torent websites is a against freenode policy? ** | |
| [01:34:00] | Beirdo: | CA.US is California |
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| [01:34:00] | j-rod: | thinking state abbreviations, not TLDs, sorry |
| [01:34:00] | SarahEmm: | why would it be KarlosII? |
| [01:34:00] | sphing: | Beirdo: I made a recording profile, I don't see how it knows which to use? |
| [01:34:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:35:00] | mchou: | KarlosII: why? |
| [01:35:00] | KarlosII: | exegesis in #azureus thinks it is and has blacklisted me fromt he channel |
| [01:35:00] | Beirdo: | sphing: you tell it which to use when you setup a recording |
| [01:35:00] | Beirdo: | jeez |
| [01:35:00] | mchou: | KarlosII: you can talk about the Sopranos :) |
| [01:35:00] | KarlosII: | :) |
| [01:35:00] | Beirdo: | #azureus is a fuckin torrent program |
| [01:35:00] | sphing: | live tv is having the problem |
| [01:35:00] | j-rod: | FC4 final, disc 1, download almost complete... |
| [01:35:00] | Beirdo: | hence any tv shows there are related to torrent |
| [01:36:00] | mchou: | hehe. |
| [01:36:00] | Beirdo: | sphing: then tweak the livetv profile |
| [01:36:00] | mchou: | so what can you talk about in #azereus??? |
| [01:36:00] | mchou: | hehe |
| [01:37:00] | KarlosII: | Beirdo, so talking about tvshows theres is talking warez? |
| [01:37:00] | SarahEmm: | non-tv BT stuff |
| [01:37:00] | mchou: | like linus distros? |
| [01:37:00] | Beirdo: | not much, legitimately according to freenode policy |
| [01:37:00] | KarlosII: | oh |
| [01:37:00] | SarahEmm: | mchou:y eah. |
| [01:37:00] | sphing: | rather... how do I tell it which profile group to use? |
| [01:37:00] | Beirdo: | live TV always uses Live TV |
| [01:37:00] | KarlosII: | geepers the guy could have avoided being anal and explained it better |
| [01:37:00] | KarlosII: | anhywho |
| [01:37:00] | Beirdo: | in the group that matches your capture card type |
| [01:37:00] | sphing: | ah.. ok |
| [01:38:00] | Beirdo: | KarlosII: where's the fun in that? |
| [01:38:00] | mchou: | KarlosII: hehe, you did learn the lesson :) |
| [01:39:00] | KarlosII: | dun matter I just use another ip and I'm in |
| [01:39:00] | KarlosII: | Beirdo, heh |
| [01:40:00] | Beirdo: | heh, I'd ban you on sight doing that |
| [01:41:00] | KarlosII: | Beirdo, heh like I said I just go around the ban to obtain the support and avoid discussing what the guy is up in arms about |
| [01:41:00] | KarlosII: | which is what i meant |
| [01:41:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:41:00] | Beirdo: | still, you go around my ban, I extend the ban |
| [01:41:00] | Beirdo: | you're lucky he didn't :) |
| [01:41:00] | KarlosII: | he doesn't know |
| [01:42:00] | KarlosII: | and what he don't knwo won't hurt him |
| [01:42:00] | Beirdo: | we could fix that |
| [01:42:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:42:00] | KarlosII: | I know you could |
| [01:42:00] | KarlosII: | :) |
| [01:42:00] | Beirdo: | not worth the effort |
| [01:42:00] | Beirdo: | besides, you have to deal with a drunk premier, so I'll give you a break |
| [01:43:00] | KarlosII: | anyhow I gotta see what i can do to help get these ubuntu backports of 0.18.1 mythtv done |
| [01:43:00] | KarlosII: | rotflol |
| [01:43:00] | Beirdo: | mdz is working on it, I think |
| [01:43:00] | Beirdo: | but whatever works |
| [01:44:00] | Kronuz: | aghrrr... I can't make my zsnes's keys work |
| [01:44:00] | Kronuz: | the arrows aren't working |
| [01:44:00] | KarlosII: | Beirdo, well then I'll tlak to him about helping him |
| [01:44:00] | Kronuz: | could anyone please send me his working zsnes config file? |
| [01:44:00] | Beirdo: | I know he was asking about where to put mythjobqueue earlier today |
| [01:45:00] | KarlosII: | hmm |
| [01:45:00] | Beirdo: | so he's gotta be working on packaging some version |
| [01:45:00] | Beirdo: | whether for ubuntu or debian, I dunno |
| [01:45:00] | KarlosII: | I need to take on one project to dedicate my time |
| [01:45:00] | KarlosII: | I'm a ubuntu convert from kanotix now |
| [01:46:00] | Beirdo: | I use ubuntu (replacing FC1) |
| [01:46:00] | ** SarahEmm is a gentoo convert from debian ** | |
| [01:46:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:46:00] | KarlosII: | ehehe |
| [01:46:00] | KarlosII: | SarahEmm, I was for awhile then I came back to kanotix and then finally ended up at ubuntu |
| [01:46:00] | j-rod: | I'm about to become a SUSE user |
| [01:47:00] | Beirdo: | whatever for, just to try it? |
| [01:47:00] | j-rod: | still plenty of RH, but also a whole lot more SUSE |
| [01:47:00] | j-rod: | Novell's office is just down the road from Linux Networx HQ. |
| [01:47:00] | j-rod: | translation: good deals on SUSE for LN |
| [01:47:00] | Ashlar: | god I love using my xbox to play xmame / zsnes :) |
| [01:48:00] | Ashlar: | it's just _so_ wrong :) |
| [01:48:00] | j-rod: | so most new stuff at LN is SLES9 or SUSE Pro |
| [01:48:00] | Beirdo: | ah |
| [01:50:00] | jams: | SLES is soo much better then RHAS |
| [01:50:00] | jams: | but that's just my .02 |
| [01:50:00] | ** SarahEmm loves using her xbox as a myth frontend :) ** | |
| [01:50:00] | SarahEmm: | works great.. |
| [01:51:00] | j-rod: | eh |
| [01:51:00] | j-rod: | SUSE is over-engineered |
| [01:51:00] | SarahEmm: | lol, my lspci is up to 18 lines on this box |
| [01:51:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:52:00] | j-rod: | and their cli management stuff SUCKS |
| [01:52:00] | j-rod: | at least in my experience |
| [01:52:00] | Beirdo: | SuSE sucks, you say? :) |
| [01:52:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:52:00] | j-rod: | sokay |
| [01:52:00] | Beirdo: | just reading between the lines :) |
| [01:52:00] | Ashlar: | SarahEmm: yah, that too, but the sheer evil of using a MS product to run linux, running an emulator, to run SNES / arcade games.. all without contributing a $ to MS.. that tickles me every time |
| [01:52:00] | tallywag: | pro&cons on xandros pls |
| [01:52:00] | sphing: | does it take like 5 secs to change channels? |
| [01:52:00] | j-rod: | nah, I don't think it sucks, but there are things I certainly don't like about it |
| [01:53:00] | j-rod: | but there are things I like about it too |
| [01:53:00] | Beirdo: | any distro will have that, especially at first |
| [01:53:00] | mchou: | haha. I'm listening to NPR. NYC just passed a bill to legislate 2 female public bathrooms for every guy bathroom |
| [01:53:00] | SarahEmm: | Ashlar: hehe :) |
| [01:53:00] | sphing: | mchou: yea i heard that |
| [01:53:00] | sphing: | npr too actually |
| [01:53:00] | SarahEmm: | Ashlar: true. i don't have any emulators on my xbox yet, just mythfrontend.. |
| [01:53:00] | j-rod: | auto-yast is a joke compared to RH's kickstarts |
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| [01:54:00] | ** KarlosII is not a fan of rh, as for suse I've never tried it so i can't comment ** | |
| [01:55:00] | jams: | ok I may disagree with some of the stuff you pointed out..but not last one |
| [01:55:00] | sphing: | anyone got myth on mini-itx? |
| [01:55:00] | KarlosII: | mchou, what the freak |
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| [01:55:00] | mchou: | KarlosII: huh??? |
| [01:55:00] | KarlosII: | 2 f for every m |
| [01:55:00] | j-rod: | jams, heh, yeah, I have lots to back up that last one. |
| [01:56:00] | Ashlar: | sphing: yah |
| [01:56:00] | j-rod: | less so on the others |
| [01:56:00] | sphing: | Ashlar: Nehemiah? |
| [01:56:00] | mchou: | KarlosII: to reduce the lone lines for female bathrroms |
| [01:56:00] | mchou: | long* |
| [01:56:00] | KarlosII: | uhh |
| [01:56:00] | jams: | hehe it's just a slightly different way of doing things |
| [01:56:00] | Ashlar: | sphing: yup, 2 of em.. m10k |
| [01:56:00] | j-rod: | but I REALLY bites when you manually change a server config file, then someone runs yast, and the change gets blown away |
| [01:56:00] | KarlosII: | makes me wonder why it takes women long in the bathroom |
| [01:56:00] | mchou: | KarlosII: they dont have urinals :) |
| [01:57:00] | sphing: | Ashlar: Mine is skipping quite a bit, how is yours setup? |
| [01:57:00] | Kronuz: | Ashlar: have you ever experinced problems with the keyboard and zsnes |
| [01:57:00] | jams: | j-rod, that was my number one complaint..but that has been addressed |
| [01:57:00] | Kronuz: | has anyone? |
| [01:57:00] | j-rod: | oh? |
| [01:57:00] | KarlosII: | mchou |
| [01:57:00] | j-rod: | good to know |
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| [01:57:00] | jams: | yes you can tell yast to ignore certian files or at least tell you it changed before it blows it away |
| [01:57:00] | j-rod: | Haven't used SLES9 yet, or SUSE Pro later than 9.1 at all extensively |
| [01:57:00] | Ashlar: | sphing: I used knoppmyth for the most recent, which has all the -epia goodies |
| [01:57:00] | mchou: | KarlosII: that wasn't a joke. |
| [01:57:00] | sphing: | Ashlar: I think the problem is that the Recording Profile is using "MPEG-2 Hardware Encoder" which is causing me problems |
| [01:57:00] | j-rod: | that's a significant improvement then |
| [01:58:00] | Ashlar: | Kronuz: nope, but then again, all I use is an xbox controller, never kb |
| [01:58:00] | ** SarahEmm uses the xbox dvd remote ** | |
| [01:58:00] | SarahEmm: | seems to work well |
| [01:58:00] | j-rod: | jams, I guess that mostly nullifies my first two complaints |
| [01:58:00] | mchou: | KarlosII: guys would probably take just as long as women if they had to use the potty insteady of urinals. |
| [01:58:00] | j-rod: | :) |
| [01:58:00] | jams: | well I still find myself doing thing outside of yast |
| [01:59:00] | j-rod: | oh, suse's text mode installer is brutal too |
| [01:59:00] | Ashlar: | sphing: nope, I've got pvr-250s and the frontend plays em back smooth as butter |
| [01:59:00] | jams: | cli yast is annoying at times |
| [01:59:00] | j-rod: | for any service I know well, I don't touch yast or rh's config tools |
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| [01:59:00] | KarlosII: | mchou, heh women need the toilets that they have in the uk |
| [01:59:00] | sphing: | Ashlar: thats exactly what I have but the frontend is choppy |
| [01:59:00] | mchou: | KarlosII: I'm not familar with those :) |
| [02:00:00] | Ashlar: | sphing: before I upgraded to knoppmyth, I was running RH9 and the propritary via drivers |
| [02:00:00] | jams: | yep same here...well except the network setup. |
| [02:00:00] | KarlosII: | bidettes |
| [02:01:00] | KarlosII: | badettes |
| [02:01:00] | KarlosII: | u know those toilets |
| [02:01:00] | mchou: | KarlosII: those are even slower. |
| [02:01:00] | sphing: | jams: the official via drivers make a big diff? |
| [02:01:00] | j-rod: | Will probably get a copy of 9.3 Pro and SLES9 while in Utah |
| [02:01:00] | mchou: | KarlosII: you gotta wait for your ass to dry :) |
| [02:01:00] | j-rod: | 6pm... time to roll out... |
| [02:01:00] | KarlosII: | nah |
| [02:02:00] | j-rod: | later all |
| [02:02:00] | sphing: | Ashlar: how much time between changing channels? |
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| [02:02:00] | jams: | later |
| [02:02:00] | Ashlar: | sphing: eh, on my direct connect to cable box, about 3–4 secs.. a little longer on the box w/ ir blaster |
| [02:03:00] | sphing: | mine is a solid 5 secs with analog cable |
| [02:04:00] | Ashlar: | eh.. depends on a lot of things.. network, filesystem of the partition where the ringbuffer lives, etc etc.. |
| [02:04:00] | Ashlar: | OSD fade in / out (which used to be problematic on the epia, but works like a dream w/ KM) |
| [02:05:00] | sphing: | and your %CPU? |
| [02:05:00] | Ashlar: | 1ghz nehemiah |
| [02:05:00] | Ashlar: | stepping 3 and 5, IIRC |
| [02:05:00] | Ashlar: | (I have two boxes) |
| [02:06:00] | sphing: | no i mean how much %CPU is the frontend using |
| [02:07:00] | Ashlar: | oh.. on playback? eh.. 10–20 (heavy while ffw or rew sometimes, maybe 25%) |
| [02:07:00] | sphing: | i'm at 60–90% |
| [02:07:00] | Ashlar: | ouch |
| [02:08:00] | sphing: | i'm watching baseball and its like high 60s |
| [02:09:00] | Ashlar: | when I was on via proprietary drivers, it hovered at about 30% |
| [02:09:00] | Ashlar: | but it also fluctuated wildly |
| [02:10:00] | Ashlar: | in a really dark show / scene, it'd go up to 50 |
| [02:10:00] | sphing: | .... its pretty choppy |
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| [02:12:00] | sphing: | did you play with nice values at all? |
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| [02:12:00] | Ashlar: | nope, but did enable realtime priority |
| [02:12:00] | sphing: | how? |
| [02:12:00] | Ashlar: | it's a setting under tv settings, playback, I seem to recall |
| [02:13:00] | sphing: | hmm ... i wasn't running it as root |
| [02:18:00] | Ashlar: | did you also enable XvMC VDL or whatever the heck it's called? |
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| [02:19:00] | sphing: | Ashlar: I have no idea what you're talking about so probably no |
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| [02:20:00] | Ashlar: | it's a via specific setting also under tv settings, playback |
| [02:21:00] | sphing: | use Xv picture controls |
| [02:21:00] | sphing: | ? |
| [02:22:00] | Ashlar: | no, a couple of pages past that |
| [02:22:00] | adante: | assuming you compiled with xvmc |
| [02:23:00] | Ashlar: | I loaded knoppmyth a15.1, which has all the epia stuff already compiled in |
| [02:23:00] | sphing: | .. i'm not seeing it... does that help with the playback... cause i'll recompile it |
| [02:24:00] | Ashlar: | hang on, let me find the exact page |
| [02:24:00] | sphing: | thanks |
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| [02:24:00] | hadees: | anyone here do any gdb debuging with mythtv |
| [02:25:00] | Ashlar: | 5th page, below the PVR-350 output section |
| [02:26:00] | sphing: | in Playback? |
| [02:26:00] | Ashlar: | yup |
| [02:26:00] | sphing: | hmm.. .my 5th page is seeking... are you using 0.18.1 |
| [02:27:00] | Ashlar: | yup.. let me count again |
| [02:27:00] | Ashlar: | page before seeking |
| [02:27:00] | sphing: | i dont have that option |
| [02:27:00] | Ashlar: | 'hardware decoding settings' |
| [02:28:00] | Ashlar: | ahh.. well, prolly need to compile myth with XvMC.. or just load the latest knoppmyth and be done with it :) |
| [02:28:00] | sphing: | Ashlar: you just boot from CD? |
| [02:29:00] | Ashlar: | no, I actually installed to HD, but you can run it from CD |
| [02:30:00] | Ashlar: | or use that mini-myth distro to netboot it |
| [02:35:00] | sphing: | ugh... its choppy |
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| [02:36:00] | Ashlar: | what changes did you make? |
| [02:36:00] | sphing: | Ashlar: just out of curiousity.. but what stream type do you have |
| [02:36:00] | sphing: | i've been playing with the bitrates |
| [02:36:00] | sphing: | stream types... I can't get the codec to change |
| [02:37:00] | Ashlar: | mpeg2-ps, 4500 / 6000 is my default |
| [02:37:00] | sphing: | mpeg2-ps 2500 / 3000 |
| [02:37:00] | sphing: | and its still choppy |
| [02:37:00] | Ashlar: | 720:480 ? |
| [02:38:00] | sphing: | ... not actually sure |
| [02:38:00] | sphing: | how can I check the current rez? |
| [02:38:00] | Ashlar: | umm.. it's the step right before bitrate |
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| [02:38:00] | sphing: | duh... 480x480 |
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| [02:40:00] | sphing: | how can I change which recording profile is my default? |
| [02:40:00] | Ashlar: | umm.. change the one named 'default' ? |
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| [02:40:00] | sphing: | no i mean recording profile group |
| [02:40:00] | sphing: | sorry |
| [02:40:00] | Ashlar: | yah, I know, cheap shot, and I knoww hat you're really asking |
| [02:40:00] | sphing: | haha |
| [02:41:00] | Ashlar: | not sure how to make another profile be 'default'.. easiest is just to change the default one and make a new one for other uses |
| [02:41:00] | sphing: | yea thats what i'm trying but the problem is that the default one, wont let me change the codec |
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| [02:42:00] | Ashlar: | umm.. err |
| [02:43:00] | Ashlar: | it's a hardware encoding card.. that's what it does |
| [02:43:00] | Ashlar: | you could change it if you had a software encoding card, but, why? heh |
| [02:43:00] | sphing: | yea... but the card is on a diff computer? |
| [02:43:00] | sphing: | is this the backend playback settings or the frontend |
| [02:43:00] | Ashlar: | no, the recording profiles are global, not frontend specific |
| [02:44:00] | sphing: | o... i thought they were per frontend |
| [02:44:00] | sphing: | ok.. that makes more sense then |
| [02:44:00] | sphing: | its not choppy on the backend at all |
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| [03:03:00] | SarahEmm: | uhh |
| [03:03:00] | SarahEmm: | well, that driver certainly is alpha isn't it ;) |
| [03:03:00] | SarahEmm: | cat /dev/video0 reboots my box |
| [03:03:00] | Ashlar: | lol |
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| [03:17:00] | dhofstra: | SarahEmm you said above that your xbox is 'great' as a frontend, in my experience it is ok, but mighty slow.. do you have extra RAM or something? |
| [03:19:00] | SarahEmm: | *Shrug* it's a little slower than my other boxes, but not annoyingly so for me |
| [03:19:00] | SarahEmm: | i've pondered putting more RAM in it |
| [03:19:00] | SarahEmm: | afaik it's just adding a few extra chips or somesuch |
| [03:19:00] | SarahEmm: | but the speed doesn't bother me much now |
| [03:20:00] | Kronuz: | emulation is always slow or does it has to do with that I'm using a pvr350? |
| [03:21:00] | Kronuz: | (of SNES and NES, that is) |
| [03:21:00] | dhofstra: | ok, mine is a real drag, nice enough for casual viewing, but nowhere near responsive enough for a real frontend. Most people have a 'faster' experience than me. I wonder if mine is borked somehow |
| [03:22:00] | SarahEmm: | dhofstra: hrm. i dunno, i made it only start any processes absolutely required, no heavy window manager or anything, cronned stuff is pared down to only absolutely required stuff |
| [03:22:00] | SarahEmm: | it took some optimizing, and it's not lightning fast, but it doesn't bother me |
| [03:22:00] | dhofstra: | ok thats cool |
| [03:22:00] | Kronuz: | it seems it's the pvr350 |
| [03:22:00] | Kronuz: | if I play without it it's a lot faster |
| [03:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | the 350's framebuffer is pretty slow |
| [03:23:00] | dhofstra: | like for instance, pulling up the OSD to 'browse' channels definitley makes the video stutter on my xbox |
| [03:23:00] | Kronuz: | :( |
| [03:23:00] | Kronuz: | GreyFoxx: ther's no known way around? |
| [03:23:00] | Kronuz: | GreyFoxx: to make it work faster |
| [03:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | Don't use the 350's framebuffer |
| [03:23:00] | Kronuz: | GreyFoxx: but for tv output |
| [03:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | If there was an easy way it would be done already |
| [03:23:00] | GeckoFiend: | yeah use an nvidia card |
| [03:24:00] | mchou: | SarahEmm: which driver version you using? |
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| [03:24:00] | SarahEmm: | there's enough advantages to it like easy tv output, how small it is, integrated IRness (well, nice receiver), lowish power, etc... |
| [03:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | The 350's framebuffer was not intended to be used as a general video card |
| [03:24:00] | SarahEmm: | so i don't really mind if it's a little slower *Shrug* |
| [03:24:00] | SarahEmm: | mchou: 0.3.6g |
| [03:24:00] | dhofstra: | yeah, that IR reciever on the xbox works from under my dresser, its the best reciever Ive ever seen |
| [03:24:00] | Kronuz: | but if I use nvidia, then there goes the hardware decoding, right? |
| [03:25:00] | SarahEmm: | yeah, it's good stuff :) |
| [03:25:00] | SarahEmm: | and the LED on the front is handy hehe :) |
| [03:25:00] | mchou: | speaking of video cards, what a good cheap video card that can offload mpeg-2 from the processor? |
| [03:25:00] | SarahEmm: | and it's small and blends in with the living room |
| [03:25:00] | SarahEmm: | and is low power relatively |
| [03:25:00] | flindet: | When I try to launch mame from mythgame, it uses joytype 4, yet I need joytype 1. I can't find anywhere to configure this. Does anyone know how I can change the parameters mythgame passes to xmame? |
| [03:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kronuz: You could looks at using XvMC to use the decoding abilities of the nvidia card |
| [03:25:00] | GeckoFiend: | Kronuz not at all |
| [03:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | Not quite the same as the 350, but it will lessen the load on the CPU |
| [03:25:00] | mchou: | XvMC is a bit buggy, no? |
| [03:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've personally never had a problem with it |
| [03:26:00] | GeckoFiend: | mchou current CVS has had a lot of XvMC improvements |
| [03:26:00] | Kronuz: | GeckoFiend:what do you mean: "not at all"? |
| [03:26:00] | GeckoFiend: | <Kronuz> but if I use nvidia, then there goes the hardware decoding, right? <GeckoFiend> Kronuz not at all |
| [03:26:00] | Kronuz: | GeckoFiend: yeah, but how come not? |
| [03:26:00] | GeckoFiend: | <GreyFoxx> Kronuz: You could looks at using XvMC to use the decoding abilities of the nvidia card |
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| [03:27:00] | GeckoFiend: | am I the only one reading here? :-p |
| [03:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kronuz: The nvidia cards have onboard mpeg decoding whcih you can access through xvmc |
| [03:27:00] | mchou: | SarahEmm: try 0.3.4-x |
| [03:27:00] | Kronuz: | GeckoFiend: oh that's the reason |
| [03:27:00] | GreyFoxx: | GeckoFiend: Heh |
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| [03:27:00] | mchou: | it works nice on 150 :) |
| [03:27:00] | Kronuz: | GeckoFiend: I thought you meant pvr350 would still be working behind |
| [03:27:00] | mchou: | SarahEmm: but maybe not so well on 350..... |
| [03:28:00] | Ashlar: | flindet, go to mythgame, choose mame, then hit 'i' |
| [03:28:00] | Kronuz: | I should have bought a pvr250 instead then :( |
| [03:28:00] | dhofstra: | never heard that before.. heh |
| [03:28:00] | Kronuz: | is XvMC included with Xorg distro? |
| [03:28:00] | mchou: | Xorg doesnt have a distro :) |
| [03:28:00] | SarahEmm: | mchou: i'm not on a 350 |
| [03:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kronuz: the XvMC is a function of the drivers for the nvidia card |
| [03:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | the xvmc libs are installed with the Nvidia Driver |
| [03:29:00] | Kronuz: | GreyFoxx: so I need to get nvidia drivers, I suppose |
| [03:29:00] | mchou: | SarahEmm: oh, I inferred you were cause you seemed to rave about the decoder :) |
| [03:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kronuz: Yes |
| [03:29:00] | dhofstra: | does xvmc still have grey OSD and crash all the time? |
| [03:29:00] | ** Kronuz heading to nvidia.com ** | |
| [03:30:00] | mchou: | GeckoFiend: what vid card you use, and do you do 1080i? |
| [03:30:00] | SarahEmm: | mchou: mew? i did? |
| [03:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | Grey still last I looked, and mine never crashed. Though it is on the most unused frontend in the house :) |
| [03:30:00] | Kronuz: | :S 10MB!! |
| [03:31:00] | jemarcks_: | mchou, howdy |
| [03:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kronuz: How big is the harddrive you are installing on ? |
| [03:31:00] | mchou: | hi jemarcks_ |
| [03:31:00] | dhofstra: | cant remember the last time 10mb scared me... heh |
| [03:31:00] | GeckoFiend: | mchou I use an Fx5200 in my main FE, but since my display is a 720p natice I only output 720p. |
| [03:31:00] | GeckoFiend: | course I also don't use XvMC |
| [03:31:00] | dhofstra: | man I'd kill for 720p native |
| [03:31:00] | jemarcks_: | mchou, im burning some dvd's tonite... cleaning out my recordings. :D |
| [03:31:00] | mchou: | GeckoFiend: hmm?? you dont use xvmc? |
| [03:31:00] | Kronuz: | switching cards meanwhile.... :) |
| [03:32:00] | mchou: | GeckoFiend: why is that? |
| [03:32:00] | dhofstra: | 540p on my set, and 1080i modelines just give nasty picture, I still use Jarrods in540p for my best picture, even HDTV |
| [03:32:00] | GeckoFiend: | dhofstra still has the grey OSD, but it doesn't crash all the time. A full color OSD is on the way though |
| [03:32:00] | dhofstra: | hmm. nice |
| [03:32:00] | Kronuz: | done downloading drivers and installing :) |
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| [03:33:00] | GeckoFiend: | mchou because I have more than enough CPU on my FE for it. The little LV667-T machine I'm building now will us it though |
| [03:33:00] | mchou: | GeckoFiend: what CPU you got? |
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| [03:33:00] | dhofstra: | 2.5ghz celeron D does HDTV just fine and dandy for me |
| [03:33:00] | GeckoFiend: | main front end is a 2.5ghz celeron |
| [03:33:00] | GeckoFiend: | dhofstra heh |
| [03:34:00] | mchou: | lol. a 2.5 celeron is more than enough CPU? not for 1080i :) |
| [03:34:00] | dhofstra: | heh; I will note that I had to have dual-channel RAM enabled for a good smooth picture thought (512mb) |
| [03:34:00] | dhofstra: | 2.5 celeron does just fine on 1080i |
| [03:34:00] | GeckoFiend: | mchou you know I hear that alot... But oddly enough I have no issues at all |
| [03:35:00] | mchou: | a 2.5 celeron and Gforce4200ti aint got enough juice :) |
| [03:35:00] | dhofstra: | i beg to differ |
| [03:35:00] | mchou: | not for 1080i. Enough for 540p though. |
| [03:35:00] | mchou: | dhofstra: what vid card you got? |
| [03:35:00] | dhofstra: | nvidia 5200 |
| [03:36:00] | mchou: | well, that explains some things. |
| [03:36:00] | dhofstra: | I did use a 440MX before with no problems |
| [03:36:00] | dhofstra: | the 440mx was about 90 percent cpu, the 5200 is lower |
| [03:36:00] | mchou: | That cause Geforce4200Ti doesnt do mpeg2 offload...... |
| [03:36:00] | dhofstra: | well, a 5200 is like 30 bucks.. heh |
| [03:37:00] | Kronuz: | Geforce4200Ti that's what I have |
| [03:37:00] | Kronuz: | isn't that going to work then? |
| [03:37:00] | mchou: | a 5200 is $30?? where? |
| [03:37:00] | Kronuz: | GreyFoxx: will a Geforce4200Ti not work for mpeg accel? |
| [03:37:00] | mchou: | I've seen 5700 for $70 after rebates..... |
| [03:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kronuz: No idea |
| [03:38:00] | mchou: | FF4200 is mission one component to mpeg offload. Forget which....DCT? |
| [03:38:00] | mchou: | missing* |
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| [03:38:00] | dhofstra: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814133127 |
| [03:39:00] | mchou: | dhofstra: lol, no DVI |
| [03:39:00] | dhofstra: | aw, now your being picky... actually if you watch the sales you'll see an off brand with dvi |
| [03:39:00] | dhofstra: | for 30–40 bucks |
| [03:40:00] | jams: | heck I got my 5200 with dvi for $35 right off the shelf. |
| [03:40:00] | mchou: | dhofstra: recall what the diff in CPU util was between MX400 and 5200? |
| [03:40:00] | dhofstra: | damn, the new newegg site sucks for navigation |
| [03:40:00] | mchou: | jams: brand? |
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| [03:41:00] | kormoc: | can anyone help me troubleshoot a sound blaster live? |
| [03:41:00] | mchou: | I think 5200 has worse specs than GF4200Ti (in 3D), no? |
| [03:42:00] | kormoc: | it's bout the same mchou |
| [03:42:00] | dhofstra: | mchou, off the top of my head, I was surprised that the 5200 only beat the 440mx by like 10 percent cpu or so. the 440 actually scaled my HDTV better, both my 5200's push the image off to the right if it is std def broadcast |
| [03:42:00] | jams: | think it;s gigabyte |
| [03:43:00] | mchou: | dhofstra: hmm? push to the right? what does that mean? |
| [03:43:00] | jams: | it's been well over 7 months and I don't feel like opening the case to get a look a the label |
| [03:43:00] | sphing: | is there anyway to see if I have XvMC? |
| [03:43:00] | mchou: | jams: nah, that's cool :) |
| [03:43:00] | flindet: | Ashlar: Thanks. I didn't know there was an "i" option. |
| [03:43:00] | flindet: | Is there no way to play mame full screen on a pvr-350? |
| [03:44:00] | mchou: | mame is pretty cool. Just played some battlezone |
| [03:44:00] | Ashlar: | no clue.. not a pvr-250 owner, myself |
| [03:44:00] | mchou: | and Marble madness :) |
| [03:45:00] | Kronuz: | how do you make XvMC work? |
| [03:45:00] | Kronuz: | is it on the FAQ? |
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| [03:45:00] | dhofstra: | mchou: my 440MX scaled the image just perfect. now, the 5200's display HD perfect, but if the HD channel is in SD mode (like for news), the 4:3 content is off center to the right. It still is perfectly on the screen, but the SD stuff in a HD signal somehow gets pushed to the right of the screen |
| [03:45:00] | sphing: | Kronuz: I don't know but I need to find out |
| [03:45:00] | Kronuz: | sphing: you also configuring it? |
| [03:46:00] | dhofstra: | has happened on 3 5200's for me, same modeline, slap a 440mx in there and the SD stuff is centered |
| [03:46:00] | mchou: | dhofstra: so you saying I'd be better off getting 440MX? :) |
| [03:46:00] | dhofstra: | not really |
| [03:46:00] | dhofstra: | think of the right side shift as 'burn in' reducer... |
| [03:46:00] | dhofstra: | =) |
| [03:46:00] | mchou: | haha |
| [03:47:00] | sphing: | Kronuz: my mythtv was compiled with it... i'm trying to figure out how to install it |
| [03:47:00] | Kronuz: | isn't mythtv compiled with it by default?! |
| [03:47:00] | dhofstra: | my 2.5 was in the 90 percent cpu, maybe even high 90's but it never skipped with the 440mx |
| [03:47:00] | Kronuz: | do I need to re-compile it? |
| [03:47:00] | dhofstra: | i'd have to check, but the 5200 is more in the 80s |
| [03:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kronuz: Yes |
| [03:47:00] | Kronuz: | GreyFoxx: yes to it's there by default? |
| [03:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | No, Yes you need to recompile if it's not already compiled in |
| [03:48:00] | Kronuz: | :( |
| [03:48:00] | mchou: | dhofstra: bah, 90% is no freaking good. Not enough headroom :) |
| [03:48:00] | Kronuz: | I was trying to be optimistic :( |
| [03:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's not compiled in if XvMC isn't installed when you go to compile it |
| [03:48:00] | dhofstra: | mchou; it worked fine |
| [03:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | can't link to a library that isn't there :) |
| [03:48:00] | sphing: | Where/How do I get XvMC |
| [03:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: What kind of video card ? |
| [03:48:00] | sphing: | via |
| [03:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | then I have no idea :) |
| [03:49:00] | sphing: | CLE266 |
| [03:49:00] | Kronuz: | GreyFoxx: what's the name of the lib? |
| [03:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | I know it's possible with that, but I don't know any of the specifics |
| [03:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | libXvMC.so |
| [03:50:00] | Kronuz: | :( |
| [03:50:00] | Kronuz: | I'll have to get it from xorg, I think |
| [03:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | No |
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| [03:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | It should be installed with the nvidia driver |
| [03:50:00] | gnarface: | Beirdo: you here? |
| [03:51:00] | Beirdo: | n |
| [03:51:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [03:51:00] | Kronuz: | GreyFoxx: not the library, it isn't |
| [03:51:00] | gnarface: | heh. |
| [03:51:00] | gnarface: | what's the best way to get nuv files changed to ogg/theora? |
| [03:51:00] | Beirdo: | nuvexport |
| [03:51:00] | Beirdo: | then convert from something to that |
| [03:52:00] | Kronuz: | GreyFoxx: it seems it's in the xorg source |
| [03:52:00] | Kronuz: | xc/lib/XvMC/hw |
| [03:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | ok, do you have |
| [03:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | ./lib/libXvMCNVIDIA.* |
| [03:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | or justlibXvMCNVIDIA.* |
| [03:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | That is what the nvidia driver supplies |
| [03:53:00] | Kronuz: | GreyFoxx: I don't |
| [03:53:00] | Kronuz: | hmm |
| [03:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMCNVIDIA* |
| [03:54:00] | Kronuz: | hmm |
| [03:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | there are 3 files with similar names all installed when I install the nvidia drivers |
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| [03:54:00] | Kronuz: | yep, I have those |
| [03:54:00] | Kronuz: | :) |
| [03:54:00] | Kronuz: | GreyFoxx: I didn't check that directory :P |
| [03:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | Still need myth compiled with support for xvmc |
| [03:55:00] | Kronuz: | okay building MythTV :) |
| [03:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [03:55:00] | Kronuz: | :) |
| [03:55:00] | sphing: | is xvmc something in the kernel that needs to be compiled in? |
| [03:55:00] | Kronuz: | I just don't know how my bothers will manage to keep the mythtv box when I'm gone :P |
| [03:55:00] | sphing: | i dont even know how to get it |
| [03:55:00] | Kronuz: | hehe |
| [03:56:00] | flindet: | so, then, if we use XvMC, it does hardware decoding too like a 350? |
| [03:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: Here's a shot in the dark, try google |
| [03:56:00] | sphing: | I am... everything is for XFree... nothing for Xorg |
| [03:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | flindet: basically. Offloads some of the mpeg decoding to the videocard |
| [03:57:00] | flindet: | Hmm.. maybe I should try it. That would sure simplify stuff like mythgame. Do I have to give xorg a "xvmc" driver, or do I just use "nvidia"? |
| [03:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | no, just the nvidia driver |
| [03:57:00] | flindet: | nice! |
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| [03:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | and of course myth has to be compiled with xvmc support |
| [03:57:00] | flindet: | I'll give it a go. Thanks! |
| [03:58:00] | flindet: | yeah, I'm using the atrpms |
| [03:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | and you need to enable it in the playback setup menus |
| [03:58:00] | flindet: | not sure if they're compiled for xvmc |
| [03:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | I wouldn't know :) |
| [03:58:00] | flindet: | yeah, I'll check it out |
| [03:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | but running ldd on mythfrontend might show the libXvMC |
| [03:58:00] | flindet: | oh, okay... thanks! |
| [03:59:00] | iggy: | hmmm, anybody ever seen mythtv not change channels when recording? |
| [03:59:00] | iggy: | everything it records is UPN |
| [03:59:00] | iggy: | and UPN isn't all that great |
| [03:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | doh |
| [03:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [03:59:00] | SarahEmm: | iggy: internal tuner or an external box? |
| [04:00:00] | iggy: | internal |
| [04:00:00] | flindet: | GreyFoxx: Sweet, it's compiled in! ;-) |
| [04:00:00] | gnarface: | Beirdo: should i use 0.2_pre20050605 of nuvexport or would you recommend a different version? |
| [04:00:00] | Beirdo: | the latest |
| [04:00:00] | Beirdo: | whatever that might be |
| [04:00:00] | Kronuz: | GreyFoxx: I don't need to re-compile the plugins, do I? |
| [04:01:00] | iggy: | it's a pvr150 |
| [04:01:00] | iggy: | it just started this recently |
| [04:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kronuz: Nope, just mythtv |
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| [04:01:00] | Kronuz: | :) |
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| [04:03:00] | Kronuz: | GreyFoxx: are you using xvmc? could you send me your xorg.conf plz? |
| [04:04:00] | JohnnyQuest: | these drivers may help your pvr-150 http://plutohome.com/support/index.php?sectio . . . ;package=338 |
| [04:04:00] | iggy: | a 150 isn't a blackbird card |
| [04:04:00] | iggy: | it uses ivtv drivers |
| [04:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | Kronuz: There absolutely nothing referencing xvmc in my x config files |
| [04:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | and yeah, on one of my machines I'm using it |
| [04:05:00] | Kronuz: | GreyFoxx: okay, I suppoes I'll have to do it by trial and error |
| [04:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | do what ? |
| [04:06:00] | Kronuz: | configure my stuff to support XvMC |
| [04:06:00] | Kronuz: | and nvidia tv output |
| [04:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | You don't need to do much with regard to XvMC, install th envidia driver, compile support into myth, and enable it in the playback menu |
| [04:07:00] | Kronuz: | GreyFoxx: but what about tv output? |
| [04:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | go and read |
| [04:07:00] | Kronuz: | :P |
| [04:07:00] | Kronuz: | :) |
| [04:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | the mailing list is full of that crap |
| [04:07:00] | gnarface: | djbfft? |
| [04:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | or just read the driver docs |
| [04:08:00] | Kronuz: | I had to figure out pvr350, so how difficult could xvmc and nvidia tvout be, right? |
| [04:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | they are pretty trivial |
| [04:08:00] | Kronuz: | yeah, once you know they are :) |
| [04:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | No, once you take the time to look for the information |
| [04:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's all very well documented everywhere |
| [04:09:00] | Kronuz: | GreyFoxx: I won't stat a finght here :P |
| [04:09:00] | Kronuz: | ;) |
| [04:09:00] | Kronuz: | fight* |
| [04:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | Good, cause I'm totally in the mood for one :) |
| [04:09:00] | Kronuz: | hehe |
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| [04:10:00] | Ashlar: | GreyFoxx: vi is the best ever! hah! hehe |
| [04:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ashlar: Actually I 100% agree :) |
| [04:10:00] | Ashlar: | oh wait.. fight, not holy war.. heh |
| [04:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | Vi/ViM is my editor of choice :) |
| [04:11:00] | Ashlar: | then I change my mind.. joe! hehe |
| [04:11:00] | SarahEmm: | hmm |
| [04:11:00] | SarahEmm: | well it doesn't crash anymore, but video captured is just static |
| [04:11:00] | SarahEmm: | so i think i have a tuner issue still |
| [04:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | But I do not get into the vi/emacs , or distro wars crap. |
| [04:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | Usuallt stupid people talking about shit they don't understand :) |
| [04:11:00] | Ashlar: | ditto.. whatever works for you |
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| [04:11:00] | SarahEmm: | what's the easiest way to test ivtv-based cards? |
| [04:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | SarahEmm: Pretty much cat /dev/video0 > file.mpg |
| [04:12:00] | ananke: | SarahEmm : load the drivers, and mplayer /dev/video or /dev/video0 :) |
| [04:12:00] | [Klatuu]: | gmplayer /dev/video0 |
| [04:12:00] | Ashlar: | SarahEmm: yah, what he said ;) |
| [04:12:00] | SarahEmm: | okay.. but how do you tune? |
| [04:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | or mplayer -cache 8192 /dev/video0 |
| [04:12:00] | SarahEmm: | and set ntsc/pal and such? |
| [04:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | there are a couple of tuning apps/scrips with the driver |
| [04:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | it defaults to ntsc |
| [04:12:00] | Ashlar: | if you're ntsc, should be default |
| [04:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | but you can use the ivtvctl for that |
| [04:13:00] | SarahEmm: | *nods* ivtvctl seems to be the tool to use, i think? |
| [04:13:00] | SarahEmm: | okay... |
| [04:13:00] | Ashlar: | yup |
| [04:13:00] | SarahEmm: | it wants a frequency though, and i'm not sure in what format or whatever |
| [04:13:00] | Ashlar: | ptune / ptune-ui |
| [04:13:00] | SarahEmm: | what does that come with? |
| [04:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | This is the script I use to load the drivers and set my basic info at boot. but it doesn't tune a channel |
| [04:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/rc.ivtv |
| [04:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | SarahEmm: ivtv drivers/source |
| [04:13:00] | SarahEmm: | ahh n/m |
| [04:13:00] | SarahEmm: | ptune.pl :) |
| [04:13:00] | [Klatuu]: | I want more than black screen when I am watching live tv |
| [04:14:00] | Ashlar: | when I set up a new card, I usually use ivtvctl to set the input, then ptune to set the freq (if tuner input) then mplayer /dev/videoX |
| [04:15:00] | SarahEmm: | cool, thanks. getting ptune running now |
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| [04:19:00] | Kronuz: | hmm |
| [04:19:00] | Kronuz: | HD1080p |
| [04:19:00] | Kronuz: | :) |
| [04:19:00] | Kronuz: | meybe that will work :) |
| [04:23:00] | Kronuz: | TVOut is working :) |
| [04:24:00] | Ashlar: | dammit, enigma is kicking my ass.. stupid game |
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| [04:26:00] | SarahEmm: | hmm |
| [04:26:00] | SarahEmm: | still static. |
| [04:28:00] | SarahEmm: | i think i play more tomorrow.... |
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| [04:40:00] | Kronuz: | I guess I'll have to compile SDL again |
| [04:40:00] | JohnnyQuest: | anyone here have snes or nes roms? |
| [04:40:00] | Kronuz: | so it has the openGL support that nvidia provides |
| [04:43:00] | gnarface: | Beirdo: is there an easy way to find out title/time/description info for nuv files? |
| [04:43:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [04:44:00] | Beirdo: | use the database |
| [04:44:00] | Beirdo: | it's chanid_starttime_endtime.nuv |
| [04:44:00] | Beirdo: | you can use that to find stuff in the database's recorded table |
| [04:45:00] | Beirdo: | which is pretty much how nuvexport does things |
| [04:50:00] | gnarface: | oh, ok. thanks. |
| [04:58:00] | gnarface: | where's the cortado documentation? |
| [04:58:00] | gnarface: | in the src? |
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| [05:27:00] | gnarface: | anyone? |
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| [05:31:00] | Beirdo: | WTF is cortado? |
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| [05:31:00] | briand: | okay, i'm about to start stepping through mythtvsetup ... but I want to change my /video directory (and the corresponding partition) over to ReiserFS first... anyone here help me with that? |
| [05:33:00] | ananke: | briand : uhmm, what's the issue |
| [05:34:00] | briand: | the issue is, I don't know how to do that. :) |
| [05:34:00] | gnarface: | uh |
| [05:34:00] | briand: | and I don't appear to have a mkfs.reiserfs command |
| [05:34:00] | gnarface: | mkreiserfs /dev/hdwhatever |
| [05:34:00] | ananke: | uhmm, backup your data, format it with reiserfs, restore the data |
| [05:34:00] | briand: | there is no data to back up. brand new myth install, only a "lost+found" directory on that partition |
| [05:34:00] | gnarface: | Beirdo: java applet for streaming video. part of the flumotion.net project |
| [05:35:00] | Beirdo: | and why would we know about it here? |
| [05:35:00] | gnarface: | haha. |
| [05:35:00] | ananke: | briand : there are no directories on partitions. they can only exist on filesystems. this means, you already have a filesystem on it, and most likely it's not reiserfs |
| [05:35:00] | gnarface: | briand: fricking mkreiserfs [devicename] its nothard |
| [05:35:00] | gnarface: | not hard |
| [05:35:00] | Beirdo: | this isn't #flumotion ;) |
| [05:36:00] | gnarface: | Beirdo: btw which perl modules does nuvexport rely on? |
| [05:36:00] | briand: | well, without trying, I'm gonna gues that 'fricking' is not a valid command. |
| [05:36:00] | gnarface: | mythtv::db for one... |
| [05:36:00] | gnarface: | is there others? |
| [05:36:00] | Beirdo: | I don't remember, you'd have to look |
| [05:36:00] | briand: | also appears, as I stated at the outset, that I don't have mkreiserfs either. |
| [05:36:00] | briand: | thus the question. |
| [05:36:00] | Beirdo: | mythtv::db is part of nuvexport |
| [05:36:00] | Beirdo: | you have to make install |
| [05:36:00] | ananke: | briand : that question would be better suited for a channel that supports your distro |
| [05:36:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, I'm going to bed |
| [05:37:00] | ananke: | briand : as it has very little to do with mythtv |
| [05:37:00] | Beirdo: | you all have fun |
| [05:37:00] | briand: | 'mkay. sorry to have bothered you. |
| [05:37:00] | ananke: | sorry to point you to the right direction |
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| [06:15:00] | gnarface: | Beirdo: oh, i get it. its complaining because it wants a config file from the mythuser home dir and i wasn't trying to run it as mythuser |
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| [07:15:00] | Kronuz: | what's that about can't initialize stuff for XVideo: "you have a 64 bpp display" |
| [07:21:00] | rpete: | wow, that's new to me |
| [07:21:00] | rpete: | must be a funky new video card? |
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| [07:22:00] | Kronuz: | rpete: not really |
| [07:22:00] | Kronuz: | it's a nvidia 4200ti |
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| [07:23:00] | Kronuz: | nothing is working since I set this nvidia card :( |
| [07:24:00] | rpete: | well, uh, try 24bpp :-) |
| [07:24:00] | Kronuz: | I changed fbbpp to 32 in xorg.conf |
| [07:24:00] | Kronuz: | but now it says something else |
| [07:24:00] | fragmaste: | I own a Prolink Pixelview Playtv Pro HD, was wondering if anyone here knows if it works with v4l |
| [07:24:00] | Kronuz: | xine says: "can't find palete" or some shit |
| [07:25:00] | Kronuz: | fragmaste: don't know, sorry :( |
| [07:25:00] | rpete: | Kronuz, DefaultColorDepth 24 in screen section is what I have |
| [07:25:00] | fragmaste: | It uses CX23881 |
| [07:25:00] | rpete: | same video card, fwiw |
| [07:26:00] | Kronuz: | rpete: great! :) |
| [07:26:00] | Kronuz: | rpete: hey you have the opengl stuff working for the emulators? |
| [07:27:00] | fragmaste: | anyone know if knoppmyth has the cx88 v4l driver? |
| [07:27:00] | rpete: | not really, I've reverted to nv driver for stability sake since I don't do anything that needs hardware accel |
| [07:27:00] | Kronuz: | rpete: 'cause I recompiled everything with opengl support, but zsnes says it can't do the OpenGL |
| [07:28:00] | rpete: | Kronuz, try glx-gears, if you don't get a few thousand frame per second then it's a driver config issue |
| [07:30:00] | Kronuz: | rpete: I don't have it :( |
| [07:30:00] | Kronuz: | oh, I do have it ... |
| [07:30:00] | rpete: | do you know much about installing nvidia drivers? |
| [07:30:00] | rpete: | sounds like you haven't really looked into it :-) |
| [07:30:00] | Kronuz: | plenty of FPS |
| [07:31:00] | Kronuz: | yep, I did... hadn't used that gears thing |
| [07:31:00] | Kronuz: | but it's working |
| [07:31:00] | Kronuz: | zsnes is not... dunno why |
| [07:31:00] | Kronuz: | well, that's other thing |
| [07:31:00] | Kronuz: | the main problem is the TV and DVD and videos |
| [07:31:00] | Kronuz: | it all is not working |
| [07:32:00] | Kronuz: | videos and DVD it seems I don't have XV loaded |
| [07:32:00] | Kronuz: | you have something in xorg.conf to load xv? |
| [07:32:00] | Kronuz: | 'cause I accidentally delete my old working xorg.conf |
| [07:32:00] | Kronuz: | (well it worked with the pvr350) |
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| [09:48:00] | ShockValue: | anyone awake that uses a d10–100 and mythtv to get directv? I had a question |
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| [11:01:00] | guy24x: | hi folks...i need some help |
| [11:26:00] | fatmatt: | heyas |
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| [12:34:00] | guy24x: | folks, i'm getting this error when i run mythfrontend: |
| [12:35:00] | guy24x: | could not connect to the master backend server. is it running? is the ip address set for it in the setup program correct? |
| [12:35:00] | guy24x: | could someone help? i've tried for 2 hours now |
| [12:35:00] | Rince: | have you started mythbackend? |
| [12:36:00] | guy24x: | should it be running in the background? |
| [12:37:00] | guy24x: | yup its working now...thanx a lot :) |
| [12:38:00] | Rince: | sure it should... |
| [12:39:00] | guy24x: | btw i'm not located in usa...i'm in india...so mythfilldatabase wont work rite? |
| [12:40:00] | Rince: | if you have an indian source for the tv-stations, you will |
| [12:42:00] | guy24x: | i have the frequency of the stations i want to watch...is that sufficient? and where do i enter those frequencies so mythtv will pick it up? coz now, i just get static on the screen |
| [12:42:00] | Rince: | you enter it via mythtv-setup |
| [12:43:00] | Rince: | but mythfilldatabase is for the installation of recording information (time, station and so on) and is done via web |
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| [12:43:00] | guy24x: | ok...lemme try setting it up (thx btw rince) |
| [12:45:00] | guy24x: | is that "frequency id" ..where i enter the freq? |
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| [13:30:00] | rsdvd: | Hello All.....I am new to MythTV, and I have a problem with the sound.....works fine everywhere else...but not in LiveTV.....could anyone help me find out why? |
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| [14:50:00] | mejo: | hello |
| [14:51:00] | mejo: | i try to build mythtv 0.18.1 from mdz's debian package sources on my debian/unstable amd64 system, but it fails to build: |
| [14:51:00] | mejo: | gcc-3.4 -c -pipe -w -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -fomit-frame-pointer -D_REENTRANT -DPIC -fPIC -DMMX -Di386 -DUSING_IVTV -DUSING_DVB -DUSING_XRANDR -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DPREFIX=\"/usr\" -DHAVE_AV_CONFIG_H -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -DQT_SHARED -I/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default -I. -I.. -I../.. -I/usr/include/qt3 -o mpegvideo.o mpegvideo.c |
| [14:51:00] | mejo: | mpegvideo.c: In function `ff_copy_bits': |
| [14:51:00] | mejo: | mpegvideo.c:26: error: extended registers have no high halves |
| [14:51:00] | mejo: | {standard input}: Assembler messages: |
| [14:52:00] | mejo: | {standard input}:15144: Error: bad register name `%' |
| [14:52:00] | Beirdo: | oooh 72F, 100% humidity at 10am. wonderful |
| [14:52:00] | mejo: | make[3]: *** [mpegvideo.o] Error 1 |
| [14:52:00] | mejo: | make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/jonas/debian/mythtv/mythtv-0.18.1/libs/libavcodec' |
| [14:52:00] | mejo: | make[2]: *** [sub-libavcodec] Error 2 |
| [14:52:00] | mejo: | make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/jonas/debian/mythtv/mythtv-0.18.1/libs' |
| [14:52:00] | mejo: | make[1]: *** [sub-libs] Error 2 |
| [14:52:00] | mejo: | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jonas/debian/mythtv/mythtv-0.18.1' |
| [14:52:00] | mejo: | make: *** [build-arch-stamp] Error 2 |
| [14:52:00] | mejo: | any suggestions why this happens? |
| [14:52:00] | Beirdo: | please don't do that |
| [14:52:00] | Beirdo: | use pastebin.com, pastebin.ca, etc rather than flooding the channel |
| [14:52:00] | mejo: | Beirdo: what, pasting the lines, or what do you mean? |
| [14:52:00] | mejo: | ah, sorry. |
| [14:52:00] | mejo: | next time i'll do. |
| [14:53:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [14:53:00] | Beirdo: | you did do a ./configure, right? |
| [14:53:00] | mejo: | anyway, do you have any assumptions why it fails to build from source for me? |
| [14:53:00] | mejo: | the debian package is built the following way: |
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| [14:55:00] | mejo: | CC=gcc-3.4 CXX=g++-3.4 LINK=g++-3.4 ./configure --prefix=/usr --arch=k8 --enable-lirc --enable-audio-alsa --enable-audio-oss --enable-audio-jack --enable-audio-arts --enable-opengl-vsync --enable-dvb --dvb-path=/usr/include --enable-firewire --enable-ivtv --enable-joystick-menu |
| [14:55:00] | mejo: | CC=gcc-3.4 CXX=g++-3.4 LINK=g++-3.4 qmake -o Makefile PREFIX=/usr mythtv.pro |
| [14:56:00] | Beirdo: | dunno, it didn't look like the arch made it to the compile line there |
| [14:57:00] | mejo: | yea, i added the --arch=k8 now, i'll try again. just recognized that it was build with --cpu=i486 before that. |
| [14:57:00] | Beirdo: | that could make a world of differnce |
| [14:58:00] | mejo: | now i get an error: |
| [14:58:00] | mejo: | CC=gcc-3.4 CXX=g++-3.4 LINK=g++-3.4 qmake -o Makefile PREFIX=/usr mythtv.pro |
| [14:58:00] | mejo: | Project ERROR: Please run the configure script first |
| [14:58:00] | mejo: | make: *** [config.mak] Error 2 |
| [14:58:00] | mejo: | it's ok to paste three lines, isn't it? |
| [14:59:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, I guess. :) |
| [14:59:00] | Beirdo: | OK, you redid the ./configure? |
| [14:59:00] | brejc8: | So did you run configure or not? |
| [14:59:00] | brejc8: | ok |
| [15:01:00] | mejo: | yes, i ran configure before. |
| [15:01:00] | brejc8: | yeah, I just read it back that far now |
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| [15:02:00] | Beirdo: | dunn |
| [15:02:00] | Beirdo: | dunno rather |
| [15:02:00] | mejo: | strange, now it works |
| [15:02:00] | mejo: | let |
| [15:02:00] | mejo: | 's see whether it still breaks |
| [15:03:00] | mejo: | i use --cpu=x86_64 --tune=k8 now |
| [15:03:00] | mejo: | at least it compiles now |
| [15:05:00] | Chuji: | Any of you guys using via M10K mobo? |
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| [15:11:00] | Ashlar: | Chuji: yah, 2 of em |
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| [15:14:00] | Chuji: | Ashlar : Any complaints? The mailing list seems to have a lot of them, but it looks like such a nice box |
| [15:15:00] | mejo: | now, at compiling i got hundreds of these messages: |
| [15:15:00] | mejo: | atsc_huffman.h:635: warning: missing braces around initializer |
| [15:15:00] | mejo: | but it keeps compiling. |
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| [15:16:00] | ** BlueCamel would consider the via M10K if it had DVI ** | |
| [15:16:00] | BlueCamel: | no dvi, no use :) |
| [15:17:00] | Ashlar: | Chuji: no, no complaints now that I'm using knoppmyth.. the latest alpha has epia specific enhancements |
| [15:18:00] | Chuji: | I think I'm going to pick one up |
| [15:18:00] | Chuji: | DVI isn't as important to me |
| [15:18:00] | Chuji: | Ashlar : Where did you get yours? Do you remember? |
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| [15:19:00] | Ashlar: | eh.. bought one at Fry's, one at some online store (don't remember the name) |
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| [15:24:00] | Chuji: | try google |
| [15:24:00] | Chuji: | err froogle |
| [15:24:00] | Chuji: | tried froogle... heh, must be early |
| [15:24:00] | Chuji: | there's some good deals there. |
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| [15:33:00] | GeckoFiend: | Chuji pricewatch.com is better for computer stuff IMO |
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| [15:40:00] | g33kx0r: | hi guys |
| [15:40:00] | g33kx0r: | any australian users here? |
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| [16:09:00] | iggy: | okay, I tried rolling back to the last ivtv driver I was using, and I'm still having trouble getting mythtv to change to the correct channel before it starts recording |
| [16:10:00] | Ashlar: | iggy, can you change channels via ptune, or in livetv? |
| [16:10:00] | iggy: | well, I've never had much luck with livetv, but with ptune yes |
| [16:11:00] | iggy: | I can mplayer /dev/video0 and use ptune in another term, and it'll change channels just fine |
| [16:11:00] | ** BlueCamel feeds his projector with dvi. ** | |
| [16:11:00] | Ashlar: | well, that's good.. means it's not a tuner module issue |
| [16:11:00] | BlueCamel: | the lack of dvi on a epia board has me going the combinded badkend-frontend route |
| [16:12:00] | BlueCamel: | using nvidia *cough* I hope |
| [16:12:00] | Ashlar: | BlueCamel: I thought there was a mini-itx with dvi |
| [16:12:00] | BlueCamel: | I swore I would never buy nvidia for linux |
| [16:12:00] | iggy: | yeah, I'm guessing it's mythtv/mythtv's dislike for "beta" drivers |
| [16:12:00] | iggy: | just don't know how to go about narrowing it down |
| [16:12:00] | BlueCamel: | Ashlar: Hmm, I haven't seen it yet |
| [16:12:00] | iggy: | Beirdo: help a brother out here |
| [16:13:00] | BlueCamel: | Ashlar: with the ce266 mpeg decoder, 1ghz cpu, dvi, and output of hdtv would be nice |
| [16:13:00] | BlueCamel: | but I might be asking a lot :) |
| [16:13:00] | Beirdo: | hmm, what? |
| [16:13:00] | iggy: | BlueCamel: I don't think an epia could handle hdtv |
| [16:14:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, not bloody likely |
| [16:14:00] | Beirdo: | you be dreaming, BlueCamel |
| [16:14:00] | Ashlar: | BlueCamel: http://www.viavpsd.com/product/epia_ms_spec.j . . . rboardId=281 |
| [16:14:00] | BlueCamel: | I thought that was the point of the unichromie drivers with mpeg decoding |
| [16:14:00] | Ashlar: | dvi / lds header, it appears |
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| [16:15:00] | Beirdo: | feel free to prove us wrong |
| [16:15:00] | iggy: | there's much more than just mpeg decoding that has to be done to an hdtv stream I believe |
| [16:15:00] | BlueCamel: | using xvmc + unichrome on the via ce266 |
| [16:15:00] | BlueCamel: | Yeah, don't know one way or the other, just repeating what I see on the list |
| [16:15:00] | Beirdo: | but I'm pretty sure there ain't nearly enough oomph in a mini-itx board to possibly do HDTV |
| [16:16:00] | iggy: | I see people in here with >2 Ghz celerons that have trouble with it |
| [16:16:00] | Ashlar: | actually, one of the newer mini-itx's has both mpeg-2/4 hw decoding |
| [16:16:00] | BlueCamel: | I saw that Ashlar, was dual cpu as well iirc |
| [16:16:00] | Beirdo: | so? |
| [16:16:00] | BlueCamel: | iggy: using xmvc too? |
| [16:16:00] | iggy: | Beirdo: ignore them, help me |
| [16:16:00] | Beirdo: | so does the PVR-350, it can't do HDTV decoding last I heard |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | iggy: whazzup? |
| [16:17:00] | iggy: | BlueCamel: no idea what other people use |
| [16:17:00] | BlueCamel: | anyway |
| [16:17:00] | iggy: | Beirdo: mythtv hates me... fix it |
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| [16:17:00] | BlueCamel: | P4 2.8Ghz + nvidia + xvmc |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:17:00] | iggy: | 10:14 < iggy> okay, I tried rolling back to the last ivtv driver I was using, and I'm still having trouble getting mythtv to change to the correct channel before it starts recording |
| [16:17:00] | ** BlueCamel will try it soon ** | |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | have a shotgun |
| [16:17:00] | Beirdo: | OK, that's likely a tuner issue |
| [16:18:00] | iggy: | ptune works fine |
| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | also, make sure your "starting channel" is valid |
| [16:18:00] | iggy: | it worked fine last week |
| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | hmm |
| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | -150? |
| [16:18:00] | iggy: | yes |
| [16:18:00] | iggy: | where is starting channel? setup or frontend config? |
| [16:18:00] | GeckoFiend: | iggy the unichrome pro stuff does HDTV |
| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | too bad j-rod|afk's not up yet |
| [16:18:00] | Beirdo: | setup |
| [16:19:00] | Ashlar: | oooh, nano-itx w unichrome pro .. http://www.viaembedded.com/product/epia_N_spe . . . rboardId=221 |
| [16:20:00] | ** Beirdo looks at the satellite pic of Arlene drenching Alabama and Florida ** | |
| [16:20:00] | GeckoFiend: | http://www.jdonavan.net/projects has some biggish shots of the LV-667T from commel |
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| [16:23:00] | iggy: | Beirdo: that's odd, one of my cards was set to 41 as the default channel, wonder if that was causing trouble |
| [16:23:00] | Beirdo: | it could be. is 41 a valid channel at least? |
| [16:24:00] | iggy: | I think so |
| [16:24:00] | Beirdo: | likely not that then |
| [16:24:00] | iggy: | but some of the channels in my lineup are not really there |
| [16:24:00] | Ashlar: | check the backend logs, it usually complains about that |
| [16:24:00] | Beirdo: | I don't have any -150 experience, so I dunno specifics to look for |
| [16:25:00] | iggy: | any ideas how to narrow it down? |
| [16:26:00] | SarahEmm: | hihi |
| [16:27:00] | Beirdo: | hmm |
| [16:27:00] | Beirdo: | not off hand, sorry. need someone with a bit more of a -150 clue here |
| [16:27:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod|afk is likely still asleep, but he could potentially help |
| [16:27:00] | iggy: | I don't think it's a 150 problem personally |
| [16:28:00] | iggy: | so, what about this? |
| [16:28:00] | Beirdo: | OK, did you change anything other than ivtv? |
| [16:28:00] | iggy: | I had 3 set as the starting channel for one of the tuners, but I manually took 3 out of the lineup |
| [16:28:00] | Beirdo: | hmm, it may not like that |
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| [16:29:00] | Ashlar: | *nod*, that sounds like a likely culprit |
| [16:29:00] | iggy: | well, about a week or 2 ago, I updated everything, but I haven't had a succesful recording since May 31 |
| [16:30:00] | Beirdo: | hmm. |
| [16:30:00] | iggy: | been a little sidetracked for the past couple of weeks you know, so I'm not sure when things actually broke or when I made changes that could have done it |
| [16:30:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, I hear ya |
| [16:31:00] | iggy: | Maybe I'll just reboot or reinstall |
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| [16:31:00] | Beirdo: | start with a reboot, less drastic :) |
| [16:31:00] | Ashlar: | well, I'd change the starting channel, restart the backend and give it a whirl |
| [16:31:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [16:31:00] | iggy: | restart the backend? doh |
| [16:32:00] | Ashlar: | hehe |
| [16:32:00] | Beirdo: | ah crap, I forgot to say that :) |
| [16:32:00] | iggy: | OMFG, that may have actually worked |
| [16:32:00] | iggy: | I'll have to find out in 28 mins to be sure |
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| [16:33:00] | Beirdo: | heh :) |
| [16:33:00] | Beirdo: | of all the things not to think of.. a simple restart |
| [16:34:00] | Ashlar: | I've done that, too.. forget to restart the backend after making a change |
| [16:34:00] | SarahEmm: | hehe |
| [16:35:00] | Beirdo: | I've forgotten a few times myself |
| [16:35:00] | Beirdo: | sigh |
| [16:36:00] | Ashlar: | good idea for improvement.. add a confirmation for mythtv-setup so that when you exit, it asks if you want to restart :) |
| [16:36:00] | Beirdo: | ick |
| [16:36:00] | Beirdo: | nah, just remind you to |
| [16:37:00] | Ashlar: | (restart the backend) |
| [16:39:00] | Ashlar: | on second thought, I agree Beirdo, restarting the backend would be difficult |
| [16:39:00] | Ashlar: | different init scripts, etc etc |
| [16:39:00] | Beirdo: | yep |
| [16:39:00] | Beirdo: | at least reminding you to do it might be nice |
| [16:40:00] | Ashlar: | that actually should be a pretty simple change.. since there's already that text like 'now run mythfilldatabase if this is the master backend' |
| [16:41:00] | SarahEmm: | okay... back to working on getting the -500 working. :) |
| [16:41:00] | iggy: | Beirdo: what do you think about this idea, I've been toying with... a taskbar area applet that shows some of the info from mythweb's backend status page |
| [16:42:00] | Beirdo: | heh, taskbar?? what stinking taskbar? :) |
| [16:42:00] | Beirdo: | you mean for gnome/kde? |
| [16:42:00] | iggy: | the one that freedesktop wrote specs for |
| [16:42:00] | Beirdo: | that would be kinda cool, but I'd never use it personally :) |
| [16:42:00] | ** SarahEmm is a twm person heh ** | |
| [16:42:00] | SarahEmm: | no taskbar here.. |
| [16:42:00] | batdog|gone is now known as batdog | |
| [16:43:00] | iggy: | masochist |
| [16:43:00] | Ashlar: | iggy, I have a 27" LED sign in my office for that. hehe |
| [16:43:00] | SarahEmm: | twm is good once you get a good config on it.. out of the box it's ungood. |
| [16:43:00] | iggy: | batdog: where you at? |
| [16:43:00] | SarahEmm: | i use vtwm anyway, twm + virtual desktops |
| [16:43:00] | batdog: | iggy: houston |
| [16:44:00] | iggy: | obviously |
| [16:44:00] | iggy: | BMS |
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| [16:44:00] | batdog: | iggy: west side, beltway 8 and briar forest |
| [16:45:00] | iggy: | cool, I've got some clients near westpark and wilcrest |
| [16:45:00] | batdog: | iggy: what kind of work you do? |
| [16:46:00] | iggy: | just curious, carry on |
| [16:46:00] | iggy: | consultin |
| [16:46:00] | iggy: | +g |
| [16:46:00] | batdog: | iggy: my former game |
| [16:47:00] | iggy: | yeah, it blows |
| [16:47:00] | iggy: | but pays the bills |
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| [16:49:00] | mejo: | i've just upgraded to ivtv 0.3.6g and mythtv 0.18.1, and now all my channels are gone. |
| [16:49:00] | mejo: | ~/.mythtv/ contains only mysql.txt and theme configs. i don't remember whether it contained a channel config before the upgrade. |
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| [16:50:00] | mejo: | does mythtv upgrade overwrite ~/.mythtv (maybe at startup of new mythfrontend)? |
| [16:51:00] | brejc8: | mejo: the channel data is kept in the database |
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| [17:33:00] | iggy: | Beirdo: I think that did it, as an added bonus, livetv seems to work now |
| [17:33:00] | iggy: | not that I use it all that often, but.... |
| [17:33:00] | Beirdo: | woohoo |
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| [17:43:00] | SarahEmm: | anyone here have a PVR-500 working? |
| [17:48:00] | SarahEmm: | hmmmm |
| [17:48:00] | SarahEmm: | i get static on the tuner, but a good image for 5s on the composite |
| [17:48:00] | SarahEmm: | then it reboots ;) |
| [17:53:00] | iggy: | make sure it's using the ivtv tuner module (or a suitably new kernel version) |
| [17:54:00] | SarahEmm: | it is using the ivtv one |
| [17:54:00] | SarahEmm: | i blew away the old kernel one to make sure |
| [17:57:00] | SarahEmm: | isn't there something you have to do about getting firmware from the windows drivers or something? |
| [17:58:00] | iggy: | yes, but ivtv won't even load without it |
| [17:58:00] | SarahEmm: | err |
| [17:58:00] | SarahEmm: | *peers* |
| [17:58:00] | Ashlar: | SarahEmm: yah, ivtvfwextract.pl |
| [17:58:00] | SarahEmm: | i didn't do that.... |
| [17:58:00] | SarahEmm: | but it's loading |
| [17:58:00] | SarahEmm: | and i get a good image off the composite input |
| [17:58:00] | Ashlar: | not sire re pvr-500 tho |
| [17:58:00] | SarahEmm: | ahh |
| [17:58:00] | SarahEmm: | maybe not, i guess |
| [17:58:00] | SarahEmm: | so without it it'd not work at all, right? |
| [17:58:00] | Ashlar: | wouldn't think so, but can't confirm |
| [17:59:00] | iggy: | the driver won't even finish loading, so you shouldn't get useable video devices |
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| [18:00:00] | SarahEmm: | ok |
| [18:00:00] | SarahEmm: | so i guess somehow the -500 doesn't need it |
| [18:01:00] | SarahEmm: | hrm... |
| [18:01:00] | SarahEmm: | the directions do include loading video fimware and audio firmware |
| [18:01:00] | Rince: | where can I find the technical specs of the -500? I can not find it on hauppauge.de |
| [18:02:00] | iggy: | yeah, it needs encoder and audio firmware |
| [18:02:00] | SarahEmm: | iggy: hrm. how is it working at all now then? heh |
| [18:02:00] | iggy: | Rince: google? |
| [18:02:00] | iggy: | SarahEmm: no clue |
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| [18:02:00] | iggy: | SarahEmm: show us your dmesg |
| [18:03:00] | SarahEmm: | one sec |
| [18:06:00] | SarahEmm: | ahh |
| [18:06:00] | SarahEmm: | the two .bin files are there |
| [18:06:00] | SarahEmm: | something must have installed it |
| [18:07:00] | iggy: | you should also have a /lib/modules/HcwMakoA.ROM |
| [18:07:00] | SarahEmm: | that i do not... |
| [18:07:00] | iggy: | that's the audio firmware |
| [18:07:00] | SarahEmm: | okay |
| [18:07:00] | SarahEmm: | i'm going to go through and extract all the firmware again |
| [18:16:00] | SarahEmm: | hrm, still just static. |
| [18:17:00] | Ashlar: | SarahEmm: anything interesting in dmesg? |
| [18:17:00] | SarahEmm: | uhh |
| [18:17:00] | SarahEmm: | 'set norm PAL' |
| [18:17:00] | SarahEmm: | that's ungood ;) |
| [18:20:00] | Exstatica: | i upgraded to the new myth i and i think it upgraded some other packages now every movie i play is out of sync video to audio |
| [18:20:00] | SarahEmm: | hrm |
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| [18:23:00] | SarahEmm: | well, now it's showing NTSC at least.... |
| [18:28:00] | SarahEmm: | http://pastebin.ca/13970 <-- my log from modprobing the ivtv stuff |
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| [18:28:00] | SarahEmm: | still just getting static out of the tuner.. |
| [18:28:00] | SarahEmm: | should PVR-500s be detected as PVR-150s? |
| [18:28:00] | SarahEmm: | i assumed that was nromal.. |
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| [18:29:00] | Randall64: | Anyone try mythtv on debian-amd64 lately? |
| [18:29:00] | Rince: | well – I do |
| [18:29:00] | clrscrn: | Hello I have just installed winmyth and I get an error, I am running windows xp x64 and Ive read the mailing archive but havent found anything.. This is my error: Application has generated an exception that could not be handles. Process id=0x214 (532), Thread id=0x8d8 (2264) |
| [18:30:00] | clrscrn: | handles = handled |
| [18:30:00] | SarahEmm: | heh, i've never been able to get winmyth working because of errors like that clrscrn... |
| [18:30:00] | SarahEmm: | three machine.. i just use dsmyth |
| [18:31:00] | Ashlar: | ivtv: Encoder Firmware may be buggy, use version 0x02040011 |
| [18:31:00] | Ashlar: | maybe try that version of fw? |
| [18:31:00] | SarahEmm: | hrm.... |
| [18:31:00] | SarahEmm: | worth a try :) |
| [18:31:00] | iggy: | that's bogus |
| [18:31:00] | SarahEmm: | how do i find that tho? |
| [18:31:00] | SarahEmm: | iggy: oh? |
| [18:32:00] | iggy: | static wouldn't be caused by firmware version problems |
| [18:32:00] | SarahEmm: | ok.... |
| [18:32:00] | iggy: | and yes, the pvr-500 shows up as 2 150's on the same card |
| [18:32:00] | SarahEmm: | ok. |
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| [18:34:00] | iggy: | I don't really see anything wrong in that dmesg |
| [18:34:00] | Ashlar: | me either.. tuners detected |
| [18:34:00] | iggy: | what are you using to test video? |
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| [18:35:00] | SarahEmm: | ivtvctl -d /dev/video0 -u 0x0000000000003000 -p 7 ; ptune.pl 3 ; mplayer /dev/video0 |
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| [18:36:00] | iggy: | SarahEmm: it's not automatically setting the right tv standard? |
| [18:37:00] | SarahEmm: | it was detecting PAL if i didn't set that |
| [18:37:00] | iggy: | got any crazy modprobe.conf things set? |
| [18:38:00] | SarahEmm: | err |
| [18:38:00] | SarahEmm: | one sec |
| [18:38:00] | SarahEmm: | using -p 6 made my box reboot :P |
| [18:38:00] | SarahEmm: | coming back up now |
| [18:38:00] | iggy: | try setting "options ivtv ivtv_std=1" see if that helps |
| [18:38:00] | SarahEmm: | gaaah |
| [18:39:00] | SarahEmm: | no it's not, something wrong with the filesystem, kernel's corrupt |
| [18:39:00] | SarahEmm: | *sigh* |
| [18:39:00] | iggy: | time for the knoppix cd |
| [18:40:00] | SarahEmm: | err |
| [18:40:00] | SarahEmm: | power cycling it fixed it |
| [18:40:00] | SarahEmm: | weird |
| [18:42:00] | SarahEmm: | i'm loading all modules with debug=1, cx25840 with i2c_enable=1, and ivtv with ivtv_std=1 tuner=57 |
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| [18:42:00] | SarahEmm: | even with ivtv_std=1 it was picking it up as PAL |
| [18:42:00] | SarahEmm: | that's why i set it with -u.. |
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| [18:42:00] | iggy: | SarahEmm: I'd dump the i2c_enable and tuner options |
| [18:42:00] | SarahEmm: | k |
| [18:43:00] | iggy: | I'd probably dump the ivtv_std option at the same time, but you may need to add it back |
| [18:43:00] | SarahEmm: | so just debug=1 on everything? |
| [18:43:00] | iggy: | btw, you were using those wrong |
| [18:43:00] | SarahEmm: | oh? |
| [18:43:00] | SarahEmm: | using what wrong? |
| [18:43:00] | iggy: | for a 500, it would be i2c_enable=1,1 and same for the tuner, etc. |
| [18:43:00] | SarahEmm: | yeah, but i only really care about getting one working first :) |
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| [18:44:00] | Bogus8: | iggy: don't be using my name in vain ;) |
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| [18:45:00] | iggy: | okay, well, best to start with as little as you need, and add what's required than going the other way |
| [18:45:00] | iggy: | Bogus8: apologies ;) |
| [18:45:00] | Bogus8: | Ok, I won't smite you this time ;) |
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| [18:46:00] | SarahEmm: | still no go |
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| [18:51:00] | SarahEmm: | any other ideas? |
| [18:52:00] | JonK: | SarahEmm problems with the 500? |
| [18:52:00] | SarahEmm: | yeah heh :) |
| [18:52:00] | iggy: | try different ivtv versions |
| [18:52:00] | JonK: | I just walked in, what's it doing? |
| [18:52:00] | SarahEmm: | just getting static when i mplayer the device |
| [18:52:00] | JonK: | static like tv static? do you have a cable plugged in? |
| [18:52:00] | SarahEmm: | tv like static, yes |
| [18:53:00] | JonK: | and not in the fm slot |
| [18:53:00] | SarahEmm: | and yes, i have a cable plugged in :P |
| [18:53:00] | SarahEmm: | yes, the tv slot |
| [18:53:00] | JonK: | have you tried tuning with ivtvctl? |
| [18:53:00] | JonK: | the tune.pl script |
| [18:55:00] | SarahEmm: | i'm using ivtvctl -u 0x0000000000003000 -p 7 |
| [18:55:00] | SarahEmm: | then ptune.pl 3 |
| [18:55:00] | SarahEmm: | then mplayer /dev/video0 |
| [18:55:00] | SarahEmm: | that look like it should work? |
| [18:55:00] | JonK: | is -p the type? |
| [18:55:00] | iggy: | input |
| [18:55:00] | JonK: | should it be ntsc? |
| [18:56:00] | JonK: | or pal? |
| [18:56:00] | SarahEmm: | ntsc |
| [18:56:00] | SarahEmm: | -p is the input, i think it's 7? |
| [18:56:00] | SarahEmm: | 7 and 6 are both shown as Tuner |
| [18:56:00] | SarahEmm: | something i read said the -500 uses 7 |
| [18:56:00] | JonK: | mine i think is 6 for both, i'm in office so cant look at my notes |
| [18:56:00] | SarahEmm: | hrm |
| [18:56:00] | SarahEmm: | lemme try 6 again then |
| [18:56:00] | JonK: | (they at home) |
| [18:57:00] | JonK: | try 6 — couldn't hurt? |
| [18:57:00] | JonK: | do you get anything on /dev/video1? |
| [18:57:00] | JonK: | and is this your only card? |
| [18:58:00] | SarahEmm: | also just static |
| [18:58:00] | SarahEmm: | and yes, only card |
| [18:58:00] | SarahEmm: | this is my devel backend, took out the old card |
| [18:58:00] | JonK: | you're blessed enough to have a non-devl backend as well? |
| [18:59:00] | SarahEmm: | video1 does the same thing, static |
| [18:59:00] | SarahEmm: | yeah, i have a seperate one for testing and coding on before i promote it to the live one |
| [18:59:00] | SarahEmm: | so i don't screw up stuff on the one that's in main use |
| [18:59:00] | JonK: | does it look like no signal static? (snow) or more black |
| [18:59:00] | JonK: | i only have the main one, |
| [18:59:00] | JonK: | it's mass fux0red at the moment |
| [19:00:00] | JonK: | and a second frontend that's compiling everything right now |
| [19:00:00] | JonK: | anything funky in dmesg? |
| [19:01:00] | SarahEmm: | no sigfnal static |
| [19:02:00] | SarahEmm: | my log output from loading modules: |
| [19:02:00] | SarahEmm: | http://pastebin.ca/13973 |
| [19:04:00] | SarahEmm: | hmm, wait a sec.... |
| [19:04:00] | iggy: | it's setting ntsc |
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| [19:04:00] | iggy: | wow, wm8775 sure is noisy at debug=1 |
| [19:04:00] | SarahEmm: | iggy: right.. i'm in north america |
| [19:05:00] | iggy: | yeah, but you said it was setting pal |
| [19:05:00] | JonK: | i wondered about all the wm8775 output |
| [19:06:00] | SarahEmm: | if i don't force it iggy, when i go to play with mplayer it changes it to pal |
| [19:06:00] | JonK: | that all looks fine, what's in modprobe.conf |
| [19:06:00] | JonK: | or modprobe.d |
| [19:06:00] | iggy: | what kind of mplayer command line are you using? |
| [19:06:00] | SarahEmm: | iggy: just mplayer /dev/video0 |
| [19:07:00] | SarahEmm: | JonK: nothing related to the modules i'm using at all |
| [19:07:00] | iggy: | try: cat /dev/video0 > tmp.mpg & mplayer tmp.mpg |
| [19:07:00] | JonK: | anyone happen to be using a snapstream firefly? |
| [19:07:00] | iggy: | sounds like mplayer may be doing something funny |
| [19:07:00] | JonK: | i think that's what she's been doing |
| [19:07:00] | SarahEmm: | same exact thing iggy |
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| [19:08:00] | iggy: | damn you pvr-500 |
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| [19:08:00] | JonK: | hmnm |
| [19:09:00] | SarahEmm: | lemme yank the cable out of the card and plug it into a monitor to make sure it works :) |
| [19:09:00] | SarahEmm: | broken cable would make me feel silly. ;) |
| [19:09:00] | iggy: | SarahEmm: can you fresh load ivtv, then immediately start just mplayer (none of that other ivtvctl stuff, etc.), and then post the dmesg output all the way to the end |
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| [19:13:00] | sphing: | anyone have dri working? |
| [19:16:00] | SarahEmm: | iggy: okay. |
| [19:16:00] | SarahEmm: | with debug=1, or not? |
| [19:17:00] | JonK: | sarah, what do you have for module aliases? |
| [19:17:00] | SarahEmm: | nothing related to ivtv |
| [19:20:00] | JonK: | hang on... let me get mine |
| [19:20:00] | SarahEmm: | log of a clean log and then mplayer run: |
| [19:20:00] | SarahEmm: | http://pastebin.ca/13976 |
| [19:21:00] | JonK: | you don't have an alias-char-major-81–0 ivtv? |
| [19:21:00] | JonK: | line |
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| [19:22:00] | SarahEmm: | no, but i'm loading it manually jonh |
| [19:22:00] | SarahEmm: | jonk |
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| [19:22:00] | SarahEmm: | modul aliases shouldn't give static... |
| [19:23:00] | JonK: | you need the same line ending in 81–1 ivtv |
| [19:23:00] | JonK: | and then options cx25840 i2c_enable=1,1 |
| [19:25:00] | SarahEmm: | i don't need that line unless it want it to autoload the module when i access the video device.. i'm manually loading |
| [19:25:00] | SarahEmm: | i had the i2c_enable, iggy said to remove it heh |
| [19:25:00] | SarahEmm: | it doesn't work with or without it |
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| [19:27:00] | SarahEmm: | ... |
| [19:27:00] | SarahEmm: | i feel unbeleivably stupid. |
| [19:27:00] | SarahEmm: | SECOND TIME I'VE DONE THAT |
| [19:28:00] | SarahEmm: | it helps if you have an uninterrupted cable path from the incoming cable connection in the basement to the card ;) |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | I'd imagine so |
| [19:28:00] | Ashlar: | lol |
| [19:29:00] | JonK: | i asked if it was plugged in!! |
| [19:29:00] | SarahEmm: | second time i've done that in a few months, spent hours and hours... |
| [19:29:00] | SarahEmm: | JonK: the cable was plugged into the card |
| [19:29:00] | SarahEmm: | unfortunately, that cable did not quite go all the way... |
| [19:29:00] | JonK: | lol |
| [19:30:00] | JonK: | i have the enable line in my conf file, but i also need it with -1 for the pvr350 |
| [19:30:00] | iggy: | yeah, I think you only need it if you have mixed cards |
| [19:31:00] | SarahEmm: | i'm working on getting that cable hooked up.. bbiaf. |
| [19:33:00] | SarahEmm: | my partner must have unplugged that while we were cleaning a month ago, and i hadn't used the devel box since then... |
| [19:33:00] | SarahEmm: | lemme try now :) |
| [19:33:00] | JonK: | she's blaming partner! |
| [19:34:00] | SarahEmm: | lol |
| [19:34:00] | SarahEmm: | ex :P |
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| [19:34:00] | Beirdo: | but of course, can't blame yourself :) |
| [19:34:00] | SarahEmm: | well, i get a good signal plugging the cable into a monitor now |
| [19:34:00] | SarahEmm: | lemme try the card.... |
| [19:34:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | Hey, I gotta question for you really smart people out there |
| [19:34:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | I'm just starting with mythtv because of the functionality.... |
| [19:35:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | ....but I have direct tv, is there a way the program guides will still work with a composite capture? |
| [19:35:00] | JonK: | mythtv provides it's own program guide |
| [19:35:00] | Beirdo: | not off the sat |
| [19:35:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | I understand that |
| [19:36:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | does zap2it offer the program guide |
| [19:36:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [19:36:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | its hard to explain what exactly i mean |
| [19:37:00] | SarahEmm: | woo! |
| [19:37:00] | SarahEmm: | t'was it! |
| [19:37:00] | SarahEmm: | both tuners work great now:) |
| [19:37:00] | SarahEmm: | stupid sarahemm :P |
| [19:37:00] | JonK: | but now that it's working SWEET! |
| [19:37:00] | SarahEmm: | yeah! |
| [19:37:00] | JonK: | it's always the best part, whatever the reason it was not |
| [19:37:00] | SarahEmm: | and with no module options of any kind to any modules :P |
| [19:37:00] | SarahEmm: | i spent hours playing with options... |
| [19:37:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | do any of you actually use myth tv with direct tv, if so, does it work good, or it the fact that you have 2 interfaces (the dtv reciever and myth tv box) make changing channels and recording diffucult or confusing? |
| [19:38:00] | Ashlar: | woot |
| [19:38:00] | SarahEmm: | i checked if the outlet was conneted to the incoming cable feed at the demarc, and checked if the cable was plugged into the box, but never checked if the cable was plugged in at the outlet end.... |
| [19:38:00] | Beirdo: | analog cable here |
| [19:38:00] | JonK: | stupid ex |
| [19:38:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | aww... :( |
| [19:38:00] | JonK: | analog here too |
| [19:39:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | I want to use it, but the fact that you gotta change channels with the dtv remote, then record with the mythbox makes it seem too confusing |
| [19:39:00] | iggy: | google for ir blaster |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | no you don't |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [19:39:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | ir blaster? |
| [19:40:00] | iggy: | yes |
| [19:40:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | OHHH! Is that one of those dtv tuner cards?!?! |
| [19:40:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | I just remembered those |
| [19:40:00] | iggy: | GOOGLE FOR IT |
| [19:40:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | i will |
| [19:40:00] | JonK: | you tell him iggy |
| [19:40:00] | Ashlar: | RoflMyWaffle: ir blaster.. sends IR and changes channels on the dtv box |
| [19:40:00] | SarahEmm: | woooohoooo nice picture too :) |
| [19:42:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | ooo. THIS MAKES EVERYTHING EASY! |
| [19:42:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | But configuration with linux/myth tv, you sure this is linux capable? |
| [19:43:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | o wait |
| [19:43:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | says here works with myth tv |
| [19:43:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | skeet.... |
| [19:43:00] | JonK: | y |
| [19:44:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | looks like this one would be best for myth tv and dtv... |
| [19:44:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | http://mytvstore.com/product_id_004.html |
| [19:44:00] | Ashlar: | if you feel like paying too much, sure.. try http://www.irblaster.info/ |
| [19:44:00] | SarahEmm: | wow, this rocks :) Yay! |
| [19:45:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | hmmm, now dont yell at me if they already have this, but what would also be cool is an IR reciever for you mythbox so you can teach it like, when this button on the remote is pressed, do this function |
| [19:46:00] | SarahEmm: | that exists |
| [19:46:00] | SarahEmm: | i'm using it right now, in fact |
| [19:46:00] | SarahEmm: | *points in front of her* |
| [19:46:00] | JonK: | but she didnt yell |
| [19:46:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | w00t! |
| [19:46:00] | SarahEmm: | my xbox is a myth frontend, i'm using the xbox dvd receiver on that |
| [19:46:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | wow, thats crazy cool |
| [19:46:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | hows the xbox capture? |
| [19:47:00] | JonK: | it doesn't that why she said "Frontend" |
| [19:47:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | still new to this |
| [19:47:00] | JonK: | using mythtv, you can have many computers (each with a tv) |
| [19:47:00] | JonK: | attach to one backend |
| [19:47:00] | JonK: | and retreive and play content stored on the backend |
| [19:47:00] | iggy: | SarahEmm: soon, you'll be on your way to recording multiple things at once, and filling up your hard drives with stuff you are never going to watch like the rest of us |
| [19:47:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | i thought a front end was a small installation that drew the programs and stuff from the backend |
| [19:48:00] | JonK: | yes, and she has one installed on her xbox |
| [19:48:00] | JonK: | y |
| [19:49:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | but i thought the front end just basically, rather than saving all the files to the front end, it sends em straight to the back end |
| [19:49:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | guess not |
| [19:49:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | so a front end is just used to watch the recorded videos from another box? |
| [19:49:00] | JonK: | mythfrontend is a software program |
| [19:49:00] | JonK: | it runs on each computer you want to access media from |
| [19:49:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | oh ok |
| [19:49:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | ahh, now im getting it |
| [19:50:00] | JonK: | if you have mythfrontend running on the same amchine taht is running mythbackend then it's all self contained |
| [19:50:00] | SarahEmm: | the backend does the recording and storage of media, the frontend pulls said media from the backend and plays it to you |
| [19:50:00] | JonK: | but you can run mythfrontend on a machine different than the machine running mythbackend (another software program) |
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| [19:50:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | oh ok |
| [19:50:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | think i might just use my mac mini for a front end or something |
| [19:51:00] | SarahEmm: | does myth have a working frontend on ppc yet? |
| [19:51:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | believe so |
| [19:51:00] | Beirdo: | has for a long time in OSX |
| [19:51:00] | iggy: | definitely on linux/ppc |
| [19:51:00] | SarahEmm: | ahh okay |
| [19:51:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | honestly, i just got hyped about myth tv from an episode of systm |
| [19:51:00] | SarahEmm: | coolies |
| [19:51:00] | SarahEmm: | mythtv rocks :) |
| [19:51:00] | ** SarahEmm been running it for a few years ** | |
| [19:51:00] | JonK: | cd .. |
| [19:51:00] | JonK: | damnit |
| [19:51:00] | ** SarahEmm now trying to upgrade to hardware video decoding ** | |
| [19:52:00] | SarahEmm: | err, encoding |
| [19:52:00] | ** RoflMyWaffle is hyped and needs money to buy parts for mythbox ** | |
| [19:52:00] | SarahEmm: | heh |
| [19:52:00] | Beirdo: | RoflMyWaffle: that will always be the case |
| [19:52:00] | xris: | Beirdo: not true. *I* need money for a firewall box. my mythbox is happy. |
| [19:53:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | so whats that remote thing called, where you train it to your regular remote buttons to do functions on the mythbox |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | xris: you were *given* an HDTV card, don't pull that on me :) |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:53:00] | xris: | yeah, but I can't use it because of crappy reception. |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:53:00] | Beirdo: | see, you need more money... for antennas |
| [19:53:00] | SarahEmm: | RoflMyWaffle: ir receiver? |
| [19:53:00] | xris: | now, if someone were to give me a dvb card that I could use with my dish, that'd be something else. |
| [19:53:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | please read up, i dont think anyone saw that question..... |
| [19:54:00] | JonK: | question? |
| [19:54:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | so whats that remote thing called, where you train it to your regular remote buttons to do functions on the mythbox |
| [19:54:00] | SarahEmm: | RoflMyWaffle: ir receiver? |
| [19:54:00] | JonK: | just any learnging remote |
| [19:54:00] | SarahEmm: | again.... |
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| [19:54:00] | SarahEmm: | JonK: zie wants to have an ir receiver on zir mythtv box to control it |
| [19:54:00] | Beirdo: | Baylink: you need more wind, you're too far away |
| [19:55:00] | j-rod: | sad that 30 miles out, I get better HDTV reception than xris... :) |
| [19:55:00] | Beirdo: | xris: feel free to mail it up here :) |
| [19:55:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:55:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | but what program do you use to set up macros for the ir functions to say, change channels on your mythbox? |
| [19:55:00] | Beirdo: | lirc |
| [19:55:00] | xris: | j-rod: you have a bigger antenna, and are not 1/2 mile from an airport. heh. |
| [19:55:00] | JonK: | i dont understand |
| [19:55:00] | Beirdo: | some google might be good :) |
| [19:55:00] | SarahEmm: | RoflMyWaffle: 'lirc' is the software |
| [19:56:00] | SarahEmm: | jonh: don't understand what? |
| [19:56:00] | SarahEmm: | jonk rather |
| [19:56:00] | JonK: | do they pay you for each google pimping? |
| [19:56:00] | RoflMyWaffle: | ok, thanks sarah |
| [19:56:00] | JonK: | they really should make that part of their model |
| [19:56:00] | Baylink: | Henh? |
| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | people should just remember to do it :) |
| [19:56:00] | sphing: | can anyone help me with dri |
| [19:56:00] | JonK: | i just think it would be better if they paid you |
| [19:57:00] | ** JonK is only thinking of Beirdo ** | |
| [19:57:00] | Baylink: | I'm sure *someone* can, sphing... :-) |
| [19:57:00] | j-rod: | xris, yeah, I know |
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| [19:57:00] | sphing: | ahh... i'm so frustrated |
| [19:57:00] | SarahEmm: | okay! now that video is working, try to get vbi working.. this should be fun ;) |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod, xris: good morn |
| [19:57:00] | j-rod: | howdy |
| [19:57:00] | xris: | :) |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | SarahEmm: bonne chance |
| [19:58:00] | j-rod: | JonK, can I bounce your box right now? |
| [19:58:00] | Beirdo: | 82F at 79%... nice |
| [19:58:00] | Beirdo: | sorry, 89% |
| [19:58:00] | Beirdo: | all the more reason to stay inside today |
| [19:59:00] | Beirdo: | 88F/58% up at the airport |
| [20:03:00] | sphing: | anyone have DRI working with CLE266? |
| [20:07:00] | JonK: | are channel logos inserted using the VBI? |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | ??? |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | no |
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| [20:10:00] | SarahEmm: | err no |
| [20:10:00] | SarahEmm: | VBI is text |
| [20:11:00] | SarahEmm: | closed captioning, XDS, etc |
| [20:11:00] | iggy: | he's gone |
| [20:11:00] | SarahEmm: | yes... yes he is. |
| [20:11:00] | SarahEmm: | :) |
| [20:11:00] | SarahEmm: | oops. |
| [20:12:00] | iggy: | sphing: tried #epia? |
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| [20:30:00] | ShockValue: | ok, what did i screw up... i just upgraded from 17 to 18.1 and now livetv is black and white |
| [20:30:00] | ShockValue: | the interface is still color, and the recordings i made before the upgrade are color. just everything since the upgrade is black and white |
| [20:31:00] | ShockValue: | any clue what i might look at to fix this? |
| [20:31:00] | JonK: | you sure you're not just watching "I love lucy" |
| [20:31:00] | GeckoFiend: | did you accidently set your input to PAL when you need NTS or the other way around? Did you change drivers?. |
| [20:32:00] | GeckoFiend: | lots of people say i just upgraded from 17 to 18.1 when they really mean "i just updated my system including a move from .17 to .18.1" |
| [20:33:00] | ShockValue: | yes thats true, some dependencies were upgraded as well, but nvidia/kernel/x11/etc all stayed the same |
| [20:33:00] | ShockValue: | im using the 7174 nvidia drivers.. not upgraded there |
| [20:34:00] | ShockValue: | where can i check for PAL/NTSC settings? do you mean in xorg.conf or someplace else? |
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| [20:37:00] | ShockValue: | this is what my xorg.conf section for nvidia looks like: http://www.miraclesalad.com/webtools/clip.php?clip=2d |
| [20:37:00] | ShockValue: | hmm, i just noticed I have a couple duplicate lines in there :) |
| [20:38:00] | SarahEmm: | this would be a capture thing, not an output thing |
| [20:38:00] | SarahEmm: | NTSC/PAL selection |
| [20:39:00] | ShockValue: | yeah i suppose thats true since the interface seems to be just fine |
| [20:39:00] | ShockValue: | ok, let me go through all my settings and check for that |
| [20:40:00] | sphing: | iggy: i got it.. major problem was that emerge mythtv disables xvmc |
| [20:40:00] | SarahEmm: | well, VBI works better than i imagined it owuld... |
| [20:41:00] | SarahEmm: | in fact, i can read from /dev/vbi0 and it works great |
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| [20:42:00] | GeckoFiend: | ShockValue it's not your video card that's the problem it's your capture card |
| [20:42:00] | SarahEmm: | already said that GeckoFiend;) |
| [20:42:00] | GeckoFiend: | SarahEmm heh yeah, started typign before reading the rest of the scollback |
| [20:43:00] | ShockValue: | yeah, im goign through my settings now to see if i can narrow it down |
| [20:44:00] | GeckoFiend: | check the tv format for each of your inputs in mythtv-setup |
| [20:46:00] | ShockValue: | says tvformat NTSC and VBI = None |
| [20:46:00] | ShockValue: | i dont know about the VBI but NTSC is right I assume since i live in the USA |
| [20:46:00] | ShockValue: | this is in mythtvsetup program, not in the frontend settings.. am i in the right spot? |
| [20:46:00] | pastyone: | anyone capturing off of qam with hd3000? |
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| [20:47:00] | SarahEmm: | VBI doesn't matttr unless you're using closed captioning or such |
| [20:47:00] | SarahEmm: | so that won't cause it |
| [20:47:00] | SarahEmm: | if you are, set vbi to ntsc |
| [20:48:00] | ShockValue: | not using it |
| [20:48:00] | SarahEmm: | ok |
| [20:48:00] | SarahEmm: | then don't worry about VBI too much |
| [20:51:00] | ShockValue: | well thats damn wierd |
| [20:51:00] | ShockValue: | i just went through mythtvsetup and double checked all my settings were right (i flipped a couple to see my choices) but didnt change anything |
| [20:52:00] | ShockValue: | but now, low and behold, its color again |
| [20:52:00] | ShockValue: | <shrug> |
| [20:52:00] | laga: | re |
| [20:53:00] | ShockValue: | what the heck does "low and behold" mean anyway.. i mean, behold means "to look at" or something, but what is "low" doing in there? :) |
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| [20:57:00] | GeckoFiend: | heh it's "lo and behold" |
| [20:58:00] | GeckoFiend: | lo, an interjection meaning 'look! see! (frequently used in Biblical expressions) |
| [20:58:00] | ShockValue: | ah i see |
| [20:58:00] | ShockValue: | I'd do better with Avast! or Ahoy! :) |
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| [20:59:00] | ShockValue: | 2nd dumb question (related to myth) of the afternoon. Anyone using a d10–100 to control directv from myth? |
| [21:00:00] | SarahEmm: | yay for Avast! and Ahoy! :) |
| [21:01:00] | ShockValue: | I so want to be a pirate "when i grow up" but i just dont have the stomach to be mean to people, which seems to be a prerequisite for successfull pirating :) |
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| [21:06:00] | SarahEmm: | hehe :) |
| [21:06:00] | SarahEmm: | puzzlepirates! |
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| [21:07:00] | GeckoFiend: | buttpirates |
| [21:07:00] | ShockValue: | guess no one is cursed with the d10–100... the recently "upgraded" the firmware and now my directv script wont change channels below 100. seems they need a leading 0 because everything needs to be 3 digits, but i dont know how to fix :/ |
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| [21:11:00] | JonK: | exit |
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| [21:23:00] | iggy: | sphing: that'll teach you to use Gentoo |
| [21:24:00] | ** SarahEmm loves gentoo :) ** | |
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| [21:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: I've got those buttons working on the remote |
| [21:29:00] | ShockValue: | lol, puzzlepirates looks like fun :) |
| [21:32:00] | SarahEmm: | 'tis :) |
| [21:32:00] | SarahEmm: | and addictive :P |
| [21:32:00] | laga: | what's puzzlepirates? |
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| [21:35:00] | SarahEmm: | laga: puzzlepirates.com |
| [21:35:00] | SarahEmm: | a pirate-themed 2d MMORPG |
| [21:36:00] | SarahEmm: | mmmm, caffeinated dew. :o) |
| [21:39:00] | laga: | thanks |
| [21:40:00] | ** laga is finishing his diet coke before going to bed ** | |
| [21:40:00] | SarahEmm: | heh |
| [21:40:00] | SarahEmm: | we recently got caffeinated dew here in canada :o) |
| [21:40:00] | SarahEmm: | yay. |
| [21:40:00] | ** SarahEmm twiddles thumbs waiting for new backend to build ** | |
| [21:40:00] | Ashlar: | eww.. the idea of decaffeinated dew just makes me ill |
| [21:41:00] | SarahEmm: | heh, all dew was decaf here in canada until a few weeks ago |
| [21:41:00] | SarahEmm: | now we have Mountain Dew ENERGY |
| [21:41:00] | Ashlar: | (as I sip a diet dew) |
| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | when/?? |
| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | ahh |
| [21:41:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: can you send? |
| [21:41:00] | SarahEmm: | which is caffeinated.. and covered in warnings and cautions and recommended doses and DO NOT EXCEED x PER DAY |
| [21:41:00] | sphing: | iggy: first time using it... i kinda like it actually |
| [21:41:00] | laga: | umm, what's dew? some special kind of soda? |
| [21:41:00] | SarahEmm: | Beirdo: few weeks ago :) |
| [21:41:00] | SarahEmm: | laga: err... Mountain Dew. soda. |
| [21:41:00] | iggy: | sphing: I'm just giving you a hard time |
| [21:41:00] | laga: | SarahEmm: ummk. |
| [21:42:00] | SarahEmm: | ahh, sorry you're not in north america :) |
| [21:42:00] | SarahEmm: | didn't realize. |
| [21:42:00] | laga: | neither am i in south america ;) |
| [21:42:00] | SarahEmm: | this is true |
| [21:42:00] | ** SarahEmm is in north north america ** | |
| [21:42:00] | iggy: | batdog: are you je_fro? |
| [21:43:00] | ** laga has been in north germany for the last two days, on an island. friggin' cold wind ** | |
| [21:45:00] | laga: | http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1263 <- "mythtv for the whole college" |
| [21:45:00] | laga: | funny ;) |
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| [21:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/ati_remote.c |
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| [22:05:00] | gnarface: | wait a minute. did i hear SarahEmm is a twm user!? |
| [22:05:00] | gnarface: | my god. |
| [22:05:00] | SarahEmm: | yeah |
| [22:05:00] | SarahEmm: | vtwm actually |
| [22:05:00] | SarahEmm: | it's twm with virtual desktops |
| [22:05:00] | gnarface: | who are you really? |
| [22:05:00] | SarahEmm: | with a good config file, twm rocks :) |
| [22:06:00] | SarahEmm: | me? |
| [22:06:00] | SarahEmm: | err.. what? |
| [22:06:00] | gnarface: | what planet sent you here? |
| [22:06:00] | SarahEmm: | <-- sarahemm |
| [22:06:00] | gnarface: | so like |
| [22:06:00] | SarahEmm: | earth, afaik |
| [22:06:00] | gnarface: | no toolbar either huh? |
| [22:06:00] | SarahEmm: | no... |
| [22:06:00] | gnarface: | just consoles and virtual desktops |
| [22:06:00] | SarahEmm: | not even window decorations |
| [22:06:00] | ** gnarface *sob* ** | |
| [22:06:00] | SarahEmm: | move a window is hold-down-CAPS-and-drag, resize is hold-down-WIN-and-drag, etc |
| [22:06:00] | gnarface: | my one vanity... i cannot survive without decorations |
| [22:06:00] | SarahEmm: | no silly icons :) |
| [22:06:00] | SarahEmm: | wasted space tho |
| [22:06:00] | iggy: | .... why not just stick to the console |
| [22:06:00] | gnarface: | you are my hero, SarahEmm |
| [22:06:00] | brejc8: | At work I use "FVWM2" |
| [22:07:00] | SarahEmm: | iggy: err, because i run a fair amount of graphical apps? |
| [22:07:00] | SarahEmm: | gnarface: lol. why? |
| [22:07:00] | ** gnarface cause liking twm makes you 31337 ** | |
| [22:07:00] | gnarface: | haha. |
| [22:07:00] | SarahEmm: | lol |
| [22:07:00] | gnarface: | has anyone ever tried ratpoison? |
| [22:08:00] | SarahEmm: | <-- l33t k1+r1ch |
| [22:08:00] | laga: | free beer for all fluxbox users! |
| [22:08:00] | SarahEmm: | yeah, i have |
| [22:08:00] | SarahEmm: | didn't like it |
| [22:08:00] | SarahEmm: | but i'm weird ;) |
| [22:08:00] | gnarface: | what was it that you didn't like about it? |
| [22:08:00] | gnarface: | still like the mouse? |
| [22:08:00] | SarahEmm: | yeah, for some things. |
| [22:08:00] | gnarface: | or is it too close to emacs? |
| [22:08:00] | SarahEmm: | lol |
| [22:08:00] | SarahEmm: | yes :P |
| [22:08:00] | gnarface: | hmm. hard to like ratpoison if you're a vim user. |
| [22:08:00] | gnarface: | noted. |
| [22:09:00] | ** SarahEmm is a vim user. ** | |
| [22:09:00] | gnarface: | guess how i could tell? |
| [22:09:00] | gnarface: | :) |
| [22:09:00] | SarahEmm: | how? |
| [22:09:00] | gnarface: | cause you don't like ratpoison |
| [22:09:00] | SarahEmm: | liking minimalistic things? |
| [22:09:00] | SarahEmm: | ahh. |
| [22:09:00] | SarahEmm: | *nods* |
| [22:11:00] | gnarface: | so i don't suppose anyone's actually had any luck making a kt133-based board behave will under sustained dma transfers? |
| [22:11:00] | iggy: | if by kt133, you mean nforce, then yes |
| [22:11:00] | Ashlar: | gnarface: yah.. under windblows :) |
| [22:11:00] | SarahEmm: | err |
| [22:11:00] | SarahEmm: | i think zie actually meant kt133 by kt133 |
| [22:12:00] | Ashlar: | damned via garbage |
| [22:12:00] | SarahEmm: | not nforce |
| [22:12:00] | iggy: | it was a joke |
| [22:12:00] | SarahEmm: | oh. okay :) |
| [22:12:00] | iggy: | it was my clever way of saying ditch the kt133, and buy an nforce board |
| [22:12:00] | gnarface: | hmm. fair 'nuff |
| [22:12:00] | gnarface: | oh wier |
| [22:12:00] | gnarface: | wierd |
| [22:12:00] | gnarface: | i just lost power at the house |
| [22:13:00] | gnarface: | huh. |
| [22:13:00] | gnarface: | ok. might just ditch the kt133 then. |
| [22:13:00] | gnarface: | man i was hoping it'd work though. |
| [22:13:00] | gnarface: | the only other spare boards i have around here are 440bx boards |
| [22:13:00] | gnarface: | great board |
| [22:13:00] | gnarface: | but so damn slow |
| [22:15:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: you there? |
| [22:16:00] | sphing: | nm, just saw your link |
| [22:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | nope, not here |
| [22:26:00] | ShockValue: | sheesh, as soon as i get the mythbox working right i get kicked off so my wife can watch her shows :) |
| [22:26:00] | SarahEmm: | hehe |
| [22:27:00] | iggy: | ShockValue: what's worse.... you are allowed _NO_ downtime from here on out |
| [22:28:00] | SarahEmm: | hehe |
| [22:28:00] | SarahEmm: | that's why i set up the devel backend here ;) |
| [22:28:00] | SarahEmm: | test and code there, then once it's stable migrate it over |
| [22:31:00] | Cardoe: | hey iggy |
| [22:31:00] | iggy: | WHAT????? |
| [22:34:00] | sphing: | how do you enable xvmc vld support in the configure |
| [22:34:00] | laga: | ./configure --help |
| [22:34:00] | sphing: | yea im doing htat its not coming |
| [22:34:00] | iggy: | USE="xvmc" |
| [22:34:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [22:35:00] | sphing: | yes I have xvmc in my use flag |
| [22:35:00] | sphing: | but i'm doing it from source... not emerge |
| [22:36:00] | iggy: | you're asking for trouble |
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| [22:37:00] | sphing: | ... why's that? |
| [22:38:00] | phi0x: | hi there, i was wondering if anyone could assist me with getting my ati hdtv wonder working with mythtv. |
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| [22:38:00] | SarahEmm: | phi0x: what chipset is that? |
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| [22:39:00] | iggy: | phi0x: it probably won't if that's an all-in-wonder like thing |
| [22:39:00] | phi0x: | well when i do this in fedora core 3: /sbin/lspci |
| [22:40:00] | iggy: | sphing: because I said so |
| [22:40:00] | phi0x: | i get this info for tv tuner: 00:0f.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Winfast TV2000 XP (rev 05) |
| [22:40:00] | phi0x: | now i dont have a winfast tv2000xp in my media box |
| [22:40:00] | phi0x: | only ati hdtv wonder |
| [22:40:00] | SarahEmm: | that's likely it then |
| [22:40:00] | SarahEmm: | do you know if it's supported at all? |
| [22:40:00] | sphing: | iggy: well is there anything you can i should look out for? |
| [22:40:00] | phi0x: | well what you mean by supported, on ati site under linux drivers section they have no tv tuner support link |
| [22:41:00] | phi0x: | for drivers |
| [22:41:00] | phi0x: | they dont have drivers for the tv tuner for linux. |
| [22:41:00] | iggy: | sphing: no, use portage, that's what it's there for |
| [22:41:00] | sphing: | i have xvmc already in my use |
| [22:41:00] | sphing: | and my ./configure from portage disables it |
| [22:42:00] | SarahEmm: | phi0x: okay.... i mean 'supported' as in 'is possible to use in linux' :) |
| [22:42:00] | SarahEmm: | sometimes that info is hard to find tho |
| [22:42:00] | SarahEmm: | especially if you don't even know what chipset.. can you look at the card? |
| [22:42:00] | iggy: | sphing: then figure out why, don't try to beat portage at it's own game.... work with it, not against it |
| [22:42:00] | phi0x: | chipsets on the hdtv wonder and theater 550 pro are encased in the metal box |
| [22:43:00] | SarahEmm: | phi0x: oh. hrm. |
| [22:43:00] | phi0x: | you know the metal encasement on tv tuners, well chipset is under it. |
| [22:43:00] | iggy: | |
| [22:43:00] | SarahEmm: | ahh, doesn't look supported as of end of march |
| [22:43:00] | sphing: | iggy: well how do i turn it on then? |
| [22:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Under the tuner? Odd. Normally they are away from the tuner to avoid the head and any rf interference |
| [22:43:00] | sphing: | i'm new to gentoo |
| [22:44:00] | iggy: | sphing: you have USE=unichrome too? |
| [22:44:00] | SarahEmm: | phi0x: doesn't look supported. |
| [22:44:00] | sphing: | mmm nope |
| [22:44:00] | sphing: | let me try |
| [22:44:00] | iggy: | you are using unichrome right? |
| [22:44:00] | sphing: | yes i am |
| [22:44:00] | ** iggy smacks sphing ** | |
| [22:44:00] | sphing: | i manually installed it... didnt use portage for it |
| [22:45:00] | iggy: | bad idea, but whatever floats your boat |
| [22:45:00] | sphing: | xvmc is still disabled with unichrome in my use |
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| [22:46:00] | iggy: | show me the mythtv line for emerge -pv mythtv |
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| [22:48:00] | sphing: | http://pastebin.com/299122 |
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| [22:49:00] | iggy: | my guess is the configure script can't find whatever crazy place you put the unichrome headers that are needed for xvmc-vld support |
| [22:49:00] | sphing: | so use portage to emerge unichrome |
| [22:50:00] | iggy: | USE PORTAGE FOR EVERYTHING |
| [22:50:00] | iggy: | that's what it's there for |
| [22:50:00] | sphing: | ok... so how do i emerge unichrome |
| [22:52:00] | iggy: | good question |
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| [22:53:00] | SarahEmm: | hrm.... |
| [22:54:00] | SarahEmm: | datadirect is giving me a 500 error, anyone else ever seen that? |
| [22:55:00] | SarahEmm: | hrm.... |
| [22:55:00] | SarahEmm: | my grabber has been failing for 2 nights now. |
| [22:55:00] | SarahEmm: | *ponders* |
| [22:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | Mine is working, maybe something relating to your query/account is making their CGI crash ?:) |
| [22:55:00] | SarahEmm: | doh! subscription expired :P |
| [22:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [22:56:00] | SarahEmm: | naw, it expired. evidently that makes it return a 500 |
| [22:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh |
| [22:56:00] | SarahEmm: | i would have noticed tomorrow anyway, because my NMS monitors how many days of TV listings i have in the DB.. |
| [22:56:00] | iggy: | sphing: okay, I think this is what you need to do |
| [22:57:00] | sphing: | i found this... http://epia.kalf.org/portage/x11-base/xorg-unichrome/ but eh? |
| [22:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | Man, I love vmware. gotta be one of the handiest apps for mocking up stuff |
| [22:57:00] | iggy: | echo x11-base/xorg-x11–6.8.9* >> /etc/portage/package.unmask |
| [22:58:00] | iggy: | then update to the latest masked version of xorg-x11 |
| [22:58:00] | iggy: | that should provide libviaXvMC.so that mythtv needs to see |
| [22:58:00] | sphing: | update the lastest masked version? |
| [22:58:00] | iggy: | do that echo command I said |
| [22:58:00] | SarahEmm: | that's better :) |
| [22:58:00] | sphing: | i did |
| [22:59:00] | iggy: | them emerge -u xorg-x11 |
| [22:59:00] | iggy: | then wait for a while |
| [22:59:00] | sphing: | --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.unmask: x11-base/xorg-x11–6.8.9* |
| [22:59:00] | iggy: | oh, go edit that file |
| [22:59:00] | iggy: | it should be =x11-base/xorg-x11–6.8.9* |
| [23:00:00] | iggy: | add an = sign at the beginning of that line |
| [23:00:00] | sphing: | echo x11-base/xorg-x11–6.8.9* >> /etc/portage/package.unmask |
| [23:00:00] | sphing: | sorry |
| [23:00:00] | iggy: | silly me |
| [23:00:00] | sphing: | >>> No outdated packages were found on your system. |
| [23:00:00] | iggy: | what version of xorg-x11 do you have? |
| [23:00:00] | iggy: | oh, what ACCEPT_KEYWORDS are you using? |
| [23:01:00] | sphing: | in my make? |
| [23:01:00] | iggy: | yeah |
| [23:01:00] | sphing: | http://pastebin.com/299128 |
| [23:02:00] | iggy: | okay, you can either set ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" in make.conf |
| [23:02:00] | iggy: | which will update a bunch of stuff |
| [23:03:00] | iggy: | or we can set it just for xorg-x11 |
| [23:03:00] | iggy: | echo x11-base/xorg-x11 ~x86 >> /etc/portage/package.keywords |
| [23:03:00] | sphing: | ok... i'll do the other one tonight |
| [23:04:00] | sphing: | or should i bother? |
| [23:04:00] | sphing: | >>> emerge (1 of 1) x11-base/xorg-x11–6.8.99.8 to / |
| [23:04:00] | epoch: | hrm |
| [23:04:00] | iggy: | what? setting it in make.conf? it depends what you're after, you get updates sooner, but risk occasional breakages in various packages |
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| [23:05:00] | epoch: | I keep getting these messages |
| [23:05:00] | epoch: | 2005-06–11 18:04:25.368 prebuffering pause |
| [23:05:00] | sphing: | epoch |
| [23:05:00] | epoch: | and my video playback is choppy |
| [23:05:00] | sphing: | what board? |
| [23:05:00] | iggy: | sphing: good, when that gets done, try mythtv again |
| [23:05:00] | epoch: | what gives? |
| [23:05:00] | sphing: | is it a epia board? |
| [23:05:00] | epoch: | sphing: nvidia geforce4 |
| [23:05:00] | iggy: | motherboard |
| [23:05:00] | epoch: | not an epia mobo |
| [23:05:00] | epoch: | asus |
| [23:05:00] | sphing: | epoch are you using xvmc |
| [23:05:00] | epoch: | yep |
| [23:06:00] | braniff: | epoch: could try setting the recording to lower quality |
| [23:06:00] | epoch: | lower quality eh.. hrm |
| [23:06:00] | iggy: | or google for that error, and get at least 20 things to try |
| [23:06:00] | iggy: | :o |
| [23:06:00] | epoch: | heh |
| [23:06:00] | epoch: | tx |
| [23:06:00] | sphing: | epoch: whats the %CPU when your watching tv |
| [23:07:00] | epoch: | how do I lower recording quality? |
| [23:07:00] | sphing: | recording profiles |
| [23:07:00] | epoch: | like 30–40% |
| [23:07:00] | epoch: | it's a P4 2.0ghz |
| [23:07:00] | braniff: | mythfrontend->Setup->Recording Profiles->Live TV->..-> |
| [23:07:00] | epoch: | er, no 2.4ghz |
| [23:08:00] | sphing: | iggy: thanks alot |
| [23:08:00] | sphing: | this is gonna take a while to finish the xorg |
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| [23:09:00] | epoch: | hrm |
| [23:09:00] | epoch: | braniff: I have 4 profiles defined, how can I tell which one I'm using? |
| [23:10:00] | braniff: | Live Tv for Live TV and Default for recordings <--- by default |
| [23:10:00] | epoch: | ah ok |
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| [23:13:00] | braniff: | brb |
| [23:14:00] | epoch: | hrm, setting the quality way down didnt' affect anything |
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| [23:16:00] | sskk: | Will a 10000 rpm harddisk improve the performance of my PVC in such a way, that it's worth a thought? |
| [23:19:00] | SarahEmm: | PVC? |
| [23:19:00] | SarahEmm: | i don't think it'll affect any plastics no... |
| [23:19:00] | sskk: | Video box then. |
| [23:19:00] | GotD0t: | heh |
| [23:19:00] | SarahEmm: | what's the PC used for? |
| [23:19:00] | SarahEmm: | ahh |
| [23:19:00] | SarahEmm: | a myth box? depends.. probably not a huge difference |
| [23:19:00] | SarahEmm: | 10k scsi you mean, or sata? |
| [23:20:00] | sskk: | had a sata in mind |
| [23:20:00] | SarahEmm: | probably not worth the extra money. |
| [23:20:00] | SarahEmm: | 10k costs a Lot more |
| [23:21:00] | sskk: | sure. Its just that I don't like the long time spend switching to another channel, I thought that maybe part of that latency was dye to a slow disk... |
| [23:23:00] | SarahEmm: | naw |
| [23:23:00] | SarahEmm: | i doubt you'd see any difference with a faster disk |
| [23:23:00] | braniff: | there's a certain amount of latency built into any PVR because it's recording and then playing back |
| [23:23:00] | epoch: | hrm |
| [23:23:00] | epoch: | does XvMC depend on GLX in any way? |
| [23:24:00] | epoch: | or, is it related to that? |
| [23:24:00] | epoch: | I've got glx disabled, because X won't start with it enabled (for some weird reason) |
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| [23:25:00] | sskk: | so, there's no known trick for speeding up channel switching? (not even with two input tuners?) |
| [23:27:00] | SarahEmm: | woooohooo! PVR-500 is working :) |
| [23:27:00] | SarahEmm: | of course, still no captions, but i'm getting there slowly |
| [23:28:00] | iggy: | epoch: not specifically dependent, but glx with nvidia cards means a lot more |
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| [23:28:00] | sskk: | SarahEmm – Have you had your machine turned completely off (not just rebooted) after you had it working...? you should better do that... After I halt my box, the tuner won't tune – then after a reinstall it works again – I have no solution... |
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| [23:29:00] | Kronuz: | hello |
| [23:29:00] | SarahEmm: | sskk: yeah, i have |
| [23:29:00] | SarahEmm: | seems ok to me |
| [23:29:00] | sskk: | hmm strange |
| [23:29:00] | SarahEmm: | you're on a -500 too |
| [23:29:00] | SarahEmm: | ? |
| [23:30:00] | sskk: | no, 150, but I understand a 500= 2 x 150s |
| [23:30:00] | SarahEmm: | yeah, basically |
| [23:30:00] | SarahEmm: | seems to work great other than myth's lack of captioning support for it |
| [23:30:00] | SarahEmm: | the driver itself seems to support it OK, i can get the data from the commandline, but myth doesn't usei t |
| [23:31:00] | SarahEmm: | so i start digging into code soon i think |
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| [23:31:00] | Kronuz: | hey, any ideas why I'm unable to see anything in the TV live? all is just black (I can see the OSD, tho')... I'm using nvidia for output and this morning sort of worked, just it seems it was connected to the composite when it should have been connected to the Super video (all black and white) |
| [23:32:00] | SarahEmm: | err, what? is it connected to svideo or composite? |
| [23:32:00] | SarahEmm: | and has that changed? |
| [23:32:00] | sphing: | Kronuz run it froma command line... then when you close the front end, you can see what error messages are |
| [23:32:00] | Kronuz: | ... but I changed something, and I don't know what it was (I was trying to fix the black and white stuff) |
| [23:33:00] | Kronuz: | sphing: froma? I'll try :) |
| [23:33:00] | Kronuz: | also I'm going to use that xvattr thing for the blue border |
| [23:33:00] | Kronuz: | (or is there other way to fix that?) |
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| [23:34:00] | Kronuz: | (other than the xvattr -a XV_COLORKEY -v 1 > /dev/null) |
| [23:34:00] | epoch: | iggy: ah, ok |
| [23:35:00] | epoch: | iggy: can you think of why X might be crashing as soon as I try to start it, when I have glx enabled? |
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| [23:36:00] | iggy: | epoch: nothing showing up in any of the X logs? |
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| [23:38:00] | epoch: | iggy: well, it inits the GLX extension, then sig11s |
| [23:39:00] | iggy: | that didn't answer my question |
| [23:39:00] | epoch: | that's what shows up in the X logs :) |
| [23:39:00] | iggy: | what version of glx are you using? |
| [23:40:00] | epoch: | not sure.. .the nvidia one, I thought |
| [23:40:00] | iggy: | version number |
| [23:40:00] | epoch: | oh hold on, there's probably a difference between glx and nv-glx, eh? |
| [23:40:00] | epoch: | well I'm using the latest nvidia driver, 7664 I think |
| [23:40:00] | epoch: | but this has been happening for a long time |
| [23:44:00] | epoch: | sigh |
| [23:44:00] | epoch: | if only this box wasn't also my firewall, I'd reinstall it from scratch ;/ |
| [23:45:00] | Kronuz: | sphing: what error whould I be looking for? |
| [23:46:00] | sphing: | no idea... |
| [23:46:00] | sphing: | "could not connect" |
| [23:46:00] | sphing: | something suspicious |
| [23:46:00] | Kronuz: | sphing: pm |
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| [23:54:00] | Kronuz: | hey, so anyone else here seen nvidia cards not showing tv output? |
| [23:55:00] | Kronuz: | (all black but sound working) |
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| [23:56:00] | sskk: | I install knoppmyth on my box with a hauppauge pvr-150 card inside. Then I compile an install some of the newest ivtv drivers and copy the HcwMakoA.ROM file from the CD, that came with my pvr-150. Almost everything works (even though I can't change the tuning through mythtv or via ptune.pl). No matter how much I reboot, I can't break the install. Now when I shutdown my box completely, waits a moment, and then boots, I can only see snow, and |
| [23:58:00] | sskk: | Guess it's something about the firmware, on the tuner chip? |
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