| Sunday, June 5th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | briand: | the capture card is a Hauppauge PVR-350 |
| [00:01:00] | briand: | twisted_one: okay. there is a diagonal staccato pattern of alternating grey-ish snow and black. much like if your little sister turned the horizontal hold control on your television during your favorite episode of Star Trek |
| [00:02:00] | twisted_one: | briand: awesome, thats a great special effect, I wish my card did that =P |
| [00:02:00] | briand: | I'll trade ya. |
| [00:02:00] | twisted_one: | lol |
| [00:02:00] | twisted_one: | sweet! |
| [00:02:00] | Riff-Raff: | briand, what are you feeding to the card, are you sure the input is ok |
| [00:02:00] | twisted_one: | briand: PVR-350, correcT? |
| [00:02:00] | briand: | cable television feed |
| [00:02:00] | briand: | yes, a pvr-350 |
| [00:03:00] | briand: | the same cable was in the back of the tv, and looks fine. |
| [00:03:00] | twisted_one: | briand: It sounds like the driver/firmware |
| [00:03:00] | briand: | twisted_one: yes, i know. that'd be ivtv, yes? |
| [00:03:00] | twisted_one: | briand: are you on that box now? or is it another box |
| [00:03:00] | twisted_one: | briand: just go with me here =) |
| [00:03:00] | briand: | I'm on another box, but ssh'd into the mythtv box |
| [00:03:00] | twisted_one: | ok |
| [00:04:00] | twisted_one: | try halting the myth box, leave it of for an hour |
| [00:04:00] | twisted_one: | It fixed my firmware issue |
| [00:04:00] | twisted_one: | and it sounds like you are getting the same sort of behavior |
| [00:04:00] | twisted_one: | I know an hour of down time kinda sucks |
| [00:04:00] | briand: | are you using a pvr-350 as well? |
| [00:04:00] | twisted_one: | I turned mine off after I gave up for the night |
| [00:05:00] | twisted_one: | the next day it worked magically =P |
| [00:05:00] | twisted_one: | no, I am using a PVR-500, but there are many similiarites |
| [00:05:00] | twisted_one: | Oh, turn it off and unplug it |
| [00:05:00] | twisted_one: | and then give the power switch a few pushed |
| [00:05:00] | briand: | twisted_one: I started this at 4:00pm yesterday. Stopped at 2:00am. Started again today at 10:00am. It is now 7:00pm |
| [00:06:00] | twisted_one: | was the machine off and unplugged? |
| [00:06:00] | briand: | no, it was up |
| [00:06:00] | twisted_one: | it has to be off and unplugged for the caps to drain |
| [00:06:00] | twisted_one: | just try this for me =) |
| [00:06:00] | twisted_one: | At best, it works, at worst, you lose an hour |
| [00:06:00] | briand: | true |
| [00:06:00] | twisted_one: | I spent 13 hours working on the damn drive |
| [00:06:00] | twisted_one: | r |
| [00:06:00] | twisted_one: | and then thats what fixed mine |
| [00:07:00] | briand: | the drive I got. |
| [00:07:00] | briand: | ;) |
| [00:07:00] | twisted_one: | I had many of the regulars here stumped |
| [00:07:00] | twisted_one: | briand: I know, so do I |
| [00:07:00] | twisted_one: | I thought it was driver issue |
| [00:07:00] | rtsai: | dEdd: are you trying to do DVD rip transcoding, or recorded TV transcoding? They are different. |
| [00:07:00] | twisted_one: | rtsai: hey, you helped me earlier... had a Q for ya |
| [00:07:00] | dEdd: | rtsai: recorded TV postprocessing |
| [00:07:00] | rtsai: | twisted_one: apparently not enough, shoot :) |
| [00:08:00] | twisted_one: | you said I had to enable auto-transcoding in the recording profile |
| [00:08:00] | twisted_one: | I did that |
| [00:08:00] | rtsai: | dEdd: then you shouldn't need to install anything else |
| [00:08:00] | rtsai: | twisted_one: and ... ? |
| [00:08:00] | twisted_one: | you said there was somehting else I had to do as well |
| [00:08:00] | twisted_one: | =) |
| [00:08:00] | twisted_one: | something about the recording setting |
| [00:08:00] | rtsai: | twisted_one: the recording schedule needs to select that recording profile |
| [00:08:00] | twisted_one: | I was jsut wondering if you meant that I ahd to set myth to record with that profile |
| [00:09:00] | twisted_one: | oh ok =) |
| [00:09:00] | rtsai: | twisted_one: what version? |
| [00:09:00] | twisted_one: | I set autotranscode on default |
| [00:09:00] | dEdd: | rtsai: So where the fiddle do I enable it in 18.1 ? I read and re-read and google'd ... |
| [00:09:00] | twisted_one: | rtsai: 0.18.1 iirc |
| [00:09:00] | twisted_one: | rtsai: I ahvent tested it yet, just was curious if you meant selecting the profile I edited. |
| [00:09:00] | twisted_one: | rtsai: thank you for your help =) |
| [00:09:00] | rtsai: | twisted_one: yes |
| [00:09:00] | twisted_one: | briand: let me know how that goes. |
| [00:09:00] | twisted_one: | = ) |
| [00:09:00] | rtsai: | twisted_one: well, it's not help until you try it out |
| [00:10:00] | twisted_one: | its help, just not solved until I can confirm |
| [00:10:00] | twisted_one: | YAY! |
| [00:10:00] | twisted_one: | The driver built! |
| [00:10:00] | rtsai: | dEdd: in the "watch recordings", you can right-arrow on the recording and get a popup menu with options that include "commercial flag" and "transcode" |
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| [00:12:00] | twisted_one: | anyone here good with X? I need to figure out how to have it allow 1280x768 for my HDTV |
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| [00:12:00] | twisted_one: | It seems to not recognize that as a valid mode and then goes to the next one in the list, I ahve added the modeline but its still not working right =\ |
| [00:13:00] | twisted_one: | I dont see anything in /var/log/Xorg.0.log about an invalid mode either. =\ |
| [00:13:00] | dEdd: | rtsai: Tada!! Thank you, Sir — found it. |
| [00:13:00] | briand: | twisted_one: will do. so far, it's extremely quiet and the leds are all extinguished. |
| [00:13:00] | dEdd: | rtsai: Is there a way to globally set it? I though twice I'd done but evidently not too successfully. |
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| [00:14:00] | rtsai: | dEdd: first figure out what recording profile the schedules are set up for (most likely default). Then go to the Recording Profiles, and check the "automatically transcode recordings" checkbox |
| [00:15:00] | rtsai: | dEdd: what kind of capture is this? Is this PVR-xxx or digital TV (HDTV)? |
| [00:15:00] | dEdd: | rtsai: pvr500 |
| [00:15:00] | dEdd: | rtsai: Makes sense re 'default profile' and attributes of the default profile. |
| [00:15:00] | rtsai: | dEdd: why not just fix up the recording profile to output your desired bitrate, quality, etc.? That way you don't have to wait for the extra transcode step. |
| [00:15:00] | briand: | twisted_one: i believe the resolution for X is set in xorg.conf |
| [00:16:00] | twisted_one: | briand: make sure its unplugged P |
| [00:16:00] | briand: | twisted_one: it is. |
| [00:16:00] | twisted_one: | briand: yes the resolution is there, but its a bit more complicated than that. =P |
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| [00:19:00] | dEdd: | rtsai: Yes indeed. Gotta dash now — will you be around in two hours or so? |
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| [00:36:00] | duende: | Help: I'm trying to setup mythtv so that i have the backend running on this system, and the frontend running on another in the network. When i run mythfrontend on this system, everything is smooth and fine, but when we try to connect from the other computer, the video is choppy and the audio is non-existant. We're running on a 100mbit network. Any ideas on ways to fix? |
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| [00:38:00] | jcollins: | I'm trying to run just the MythTV front end on a separate PC and it appears that the frontend is ignoring my configuration and still trying to connect to local host |
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| [00:38:00] | jcollins: | even though the personal configuration directory contains the backend IP, anyone else seeing this behavior? |
| [00:38:00] | duende: | jcollins: what's it saying in console? |
| [00:39:00] | jcollins: | duende: that's it's trying to connect to localhost... |
| [00:39:00] | jcollins: | that's how I know it's ignoring my configuration |
| [00:39:00] | jcollins: | 2005-06–04 17:34:23.706 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5) |
| [00:40:00] | duende: | what is your personal config directory? |
| [00:40:00] | jcollins: | $ cat ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [00:40:00] | jcollins: | DBHostName=192.168.10.104 |
| [00:40:00] | twisted_one: | jcollins: I was in the past |
| [00:40:00] | twisted_one: | I dont dont knwo what fixed it, I wiped it all and started over and I dont see it anymore (due ot many reasons). Is it hanging on certain menus? |
| [00:40:00] | twisted_one: | (for about 10–30 seconds) |
| [00:41:00] | jcollins: | twisted_one: everything that requires the backend complains that it can't reach the backend (obviously since it's trying localhost) |
| [00:41:00] | twisted_one: | yes, exaclty what I was seeing |
| [00:41:00] | twisted_one: | but is it manifesting itself as hangs while navigating through the menus? |
| [00:41:00] | jcollins: | only when the backend is needed |
| [00:42:00] | twisted_one: | ok, yes. |
| [00:43:00] | twisted_one: | I just wanted to confirm that is what was causing myhangs, I had a few other issues as well, but I assumed it was that one. |
| [00:43:00] | twisted_one: | I guess the only thing I can suggest is to make sure that the ips listed in mythsetup and in your mythfrontend config are the same |
| [00:44:00] | twisted_one: | I knwo the mythsetup defualts to 127.0.0.1, but I think thats what would showup in mysql.txt then |
| [00:44:00] | jcollins: | mythsetup only runs on the backend, right? |
| [00:44:00] | twisted_one: | I would think so, yes. |
| [00:44:00] | twisted_one: | jcollins: I have had myth running all of one day now so I unfortunatly am not the best person to debug this with. Hope I can help. |
| [00:45:00] | jcollins: | hmmm that might be it, I don't think I have the backend referencing anything other than 127.0.0.1 |
| [00:45:00] | briand: | twisted_one is at least one day ahead of me. ;) |
| [00:45:00] | twisted_one: | Try that out and let me know how that goes. |
| [00:45:00] | twisted_one: | briand: lol, were we racing? |
| [00:45:00] | briand: | i dunno.. if so, i forgot to pin my number on the back of my shorts |
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| [00:47:00] | twisted_one: | heh, I had a handicap, my card doesnt have driver support yet, well its "experimental" |
| [00:48:00] | briand: | and, yet, fairly stable.. from what I've read. |
| [00:48:00] | briand: | can you report the same from the "real world" ? |
| [00:48:00] | jcollins: | twisted_one: that appears to have been it |
| [00:48:00] | twisted_one: | jcollins: =) |
| [00:48:00] | jcollins: | needed to get the backend using it's external IPs |
| [00:48:00] | twisted_one: | glad I could help |
| [00:48:00] | briand: | in what way(s) does the pvr500 differ from the pvr350 ? |
| [00:48:00] | jcollins: | now to find out why I have a black screen remotely |
| [00:48:00] | twisted_one: | briand: no output |
| [00:49:00] | twisted_one: | briand: but two tuners |
| [00:49:00] | briand: | so you output thru the video card? |
| [00:49:00] | twisted_one: | yes |
| [00:49:00] | briand: | ah. |
| [00:49:00] | twisted_one: | which is alright by me since my tv has a DVI input |
| [00:49:00] | briand: | the pundit includes tv-out, but i haven't played with it. |
| [00:49:00] | briand: | ..heck, the box has only been assembled since late Thursday night. |
| [00:50:00] | jcollins: | yea, the pvr500 would have to come out right after I get my pvr250.... grrr |
| [00:51:00] | twisted_one: | jcollins: ouch =\ |
| [00:51:00] | briand: | i looked at it (well, not physically), but didn't want to use a lot of processor running video.. thus the 350 |
| [00:51:00] | twisted_one: | briand: how fast is yoru CPU? |
| [00:52:00] | briand: | it's a 2.0G Celeron D with a 533FSB |
| [00:52:00] | jcollins: | briand: the cpu is mostly idle with my pvr250 and another video output |
| [00:52:00] | briand: | hmm. |
| [00:52:00] | twisted_one: | briand: you shoulda got the 500 |
| [00:52:00] | briand: | they were about the same price. |
| [00:52:00] | twisted_one: | encoding two streams my cpu is 70 idle still |
| [00:53:00] | jcollins: | yea, the 500 would be the way I'd have gone |
| [00:53:00] | twisted_one: | sempron 2200 |
| [00:53:00] | jcollins: | the cards encode the stream not the CPU |
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| [00:53:00] | briand: | yes, hardware encoding, tho... how is it while simultaneously viewing a third? |
| [00:53:00] | shifter7: | so i run mythtv-setup and it asks me about clearing capture info and channels. then it exits and doesn't let me do anything else. ideas ? |
| [00:53:00] | twisted_one: | briand: fine |
| [00:53:00] | briand: | hmm. |
| [00:53:00] | twisted_one: | briand: at last it doesnt lag |
| [00:54:00] | twisted_one: | briand: all while transcoding with my idle cycles |
| [00:54:00] | briand: | something to look at a bit, if I build another one... |
| [00:54:00] | twisted_one: | =P |
| [00:54:00] | briand: | i have a dual 450MHz Celeron motherboard.. i thought about putting it online and using it for commercial flagging, transcoding, etc |
| [00:55:00] | twisted_one: | briand: meh, you should just use that with your 350 =P |
| [00:55:00] | briand: | well, it won't fit into this cute little pundit case. :) |
| [00:56:00] | twisted_one: | ah, meh, i dont have a case for mine, well its just a normal pc case |
| [00:57:00] | twisted_one: | im building a case for my main pc and the case from the main might hit the HTPC |
| [00:57:00] | twisted_one: | or I might just dump the money and get my Ahanix 305 |
| [00:57:00] | twisted_one: | I do very much like the asthetics |
| [00:57:00] | briand: | i am going to throw some cat5 into the attic and wire up the living room.. then the pundit will be in there (with the home theater system) and the rest of the computers will be back here in the computer room. |
| [00:59:00] | shifter7: | where does mythtv look for its themes by default ? |
| [00:59:00] | twisted_one: | computer room |
| [00:59:00] | twisted_one: | every room should be the computer room =) |
| [00:59:00] | briand: | heheh. you've seen my house! |
| [00:59:00] | twisted_one: | shifter7: /usr/share/mythtv/themes iirc |
| [00:59:00] | briand: | it was listed as a "second bedroom" when i moved here... but it's the computer room. |
| [00:59:00] | twisted_one: | good =) |
| [00:59:00] | briand: | well, half of it is. the other half is the "radio room" |
| [00:59:00] | GotD0t: | radio room?> |
| [01:00:00] | briand: | yes. |
| [01:00:00] | twisted_one: | HAM? |
| [01:00:00] | briand: | I'm an Extra class Amateur radio operator |
| [01:00:00] | GotD0t: | call? |
| [01:00:00] | jcollins: | shifter7: you're probably missing a theme I was there about an hour ago myself |
| [01:00:00] | briand: | AI4AI |
| [01:00:00] | GotD0t: | i see... KI4IGJ here |
| [01:00:00] | duende: | Help: I'm trying to setup mythtv so that i have the backend running on this system, and the frontend running on another in the network. When i run mythfrontend on this system, everything is smooth and fine, but when we try to connect from the other computer, the video is choppy and the audio is non-existant. We're running on a 100mbit network. Any ideas on ways to fix? |
| [01:00:00] | briand: | hail, and well met. |
| [01:00:00] | shifter7: | jcollins: i was just thinking that. i don't know where to get the "blue" theme though |
| [01:00:00] | jcollins: | shifter7: which distro |
| [01:00:00] | twisted_one: | duende: whats the routing hardware like? |
| [01:01:00] | shifter7: | jcollins: FC3 with ATRpms |
| [01:01:00] | duende: | twisted_one: we're using a linksys befsr81 |
| [01:01:00] | GotD0t: | hehe... i saw radio and woke up |
| [01:01:00] | twisted_one: | and its just passing through that (no hubs/switches)? |
| [01:01:00] | duende: | twisted_one: yip, just that, it's just a small home network |
| [01:01:00] | twisted_one: | GotD0t: welcome to reality =) |
| [01:02:00] | twisted_one: | duende: odd, any way you can bypass the router? (routers can muck things up on the rare ocassion) |
| [01:02:00] | briand: | GotD0t: and a 4-call at that. :) hot & muggy in Miami, is it? sure is here in tallytown |
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| [01:02:00] | shifter7: | jcollins: ha! i updated to 0.18.1 from ATRpms and now blue is in the theme pack. that's an awful bug |
| [01:02:00] | duende: | twisted_one: you mean do a crossover connection? |
| [01:02:00] | GotD0t: | briand: yea... been raining for the past week or so |
| [01:02:00] | twisted_one: | duende: yes |
| [01:02:00] | twisted_one: | duende: or just use a hub/switch for testing purposes |
| [01:02:00] | duende: | twisted_one: not really, we don't have the cabling for it |
| [01:02:00] | twisted_one: | duende: but a C/L cable would be best. |
| [01:03:00] | briand: | yeah, rain here on and off, too. not as much as you guys have apparently gotten, tho |
| [01:03:00] | twisted_one: | bleh, its hot and humid as piss outside today |
| [01:03:00] | twisted_one: | not looking forward to the summer =\ |
| [01:03:00] | briand: | in illinois? |
| [01:03:00] | twisted_one: | briand: yep |
| [01:03:00] | GotD0t: | briand: yea... i was out in the keys all day today... rained all morning and the sun came out for about 20 mins in the afternoon |
| [01:03:00] | briand: | pfft. it doesn't get "humid" there. |
| [01:04:00] | duende: | twisted_one: i know that we can send files to each other and good speeds. With the default mythtv setup for livetv, how much bandwidth is needed for networked frontends? |
| [01:04:00] | briand: | try 98% humidity... all day and all night. from may to november. |
| [01:04:00] | twisted_one: | briand: where? |
| [01:04:00] | briand: | tallahassee, florida |
| [01:04:00] | GotD0t: | hehe |
| [01:04:00] | twisted_one: | duende: meh, not 100mbit thats for sure |
| [01:04:00] | twisted_one: | bleh, florida |
| [01:04:00] | GotD0t: | yes |
| [01:04:00] | twisted_one: | briand: im sorry to hear that, you got wind down there? |
| [01:04:00] | GotD0t: | i agree... "bleh, florida" |
| [01:04:00] | briand: | yeah, well we've got hurricanes and you don't! :P |
| [01:05:00] | duende: | twisted_one: well, i would assume we would have more then enough bandwidth seeing that it's only our two client computers and one small file server that's not being used at the same time |
| [01:05:00] | briand: | currently, 81F, Humidity at 88%, wind out of the south at 8mph |
| [01:05:00] | twisted_one: | duende: yeah, I doubt its BW |
| [01:05:00] | twisted_one: | briand: I get tornados |
| [01:05:00] | twisted_one: | had one a few miles from me two weeks ago =) |
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| [01:05:00] | twisted_one: | briand: chekc out the hail |
| [01:05:00] | GotD0t: | tornados are fun... you can chase those |
| [01:05:00] | briand: | we get those, as well.. usually on the outer bands of the hurricanes. |
| [01:06:00] | jcollins: | shifter7: I had the same problem with the Debian ones |
| [01:06:00] | jcollins: | Titivillus was missing for me. |
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| [01:06:00] | twisted_one: | http://malaeum.net/gallery/ACrazyStorm05-19-05 |
| [01:06:00] | briand: | 10 more minutes until my self-imposed hour break is finished. |
| [01:06:00] | twisted_one: | briand: hehe =) |
| [01:06:00] | briand: | twisted_one: if nothing else, I'd say my mood has improved a bit. ;) |
| [01:06:00] | twisted_one: | briand: I really hope this works for you |
| [01:07:00] | briand: | me too! |
| [01:07:00] | twisted_one: | briand: good, I knwo the feeling I was getting frustraed |
| [01:07:00] | duende: | twisted_one: ok, my friend just let it go for a while, and the video smoothed out without any choppiness, but when he switched channels, it got choppy again |
| [01:07:00] | twisted_one: | briand: sometimes you just have to step away |
| [01:07:00] | briand: | yep. |
| [01:07:00] | duende: | as well, there's no sound, i don't know if it's related |
| [01:07:00] | twisted_one: | duende: hrmm, how long is it until the video smooths out? |
| [01:08:00] | duende: | twisted_one: about 3–5 minutes |
| [01:08:00] | briand: | GotD0t: so, you've recently gotten your ticket.. what got you interested? |
| [01:08:00] | twisted_one: | duende: eek, no good. |
| [01:08:00] | duende: | i know :) |
| [01:08:00] | GotD0t: | briand: a friend |
| [01:08:00] | twisted_one: | duende: hrmm, not sure, I have not tried it yet using something other than local clients soryr |
| [01:08:00] | duende: | how does mythtv work tho, does it just send one stream with video/audio attached to all clients connected? |
| [01:09:00] | GotD0t: | briand: well... a former friend... wanted to get his and i liked the idea... so i got it as well |
| [01:09:00] | twisted_one: | duende: I would imagine its per client |
| [01:09:00] | briand: | cool. it's a fun hobby. :) do you have plans to upgrade and try HF ? |
| [01:09:00] | duende: | I would think that there should be no difference between a local client and a remote client |
| [01:09:00] | GotD0t: | briand: and he doesn't use the radio anymore (i think he sold is HT) and im sure the local hams are happier because of it |
| [01:09:00] | briand: | it's kinda fun talking to someone on the other side of the world... |
| [01:09:00] | GotD0t: | briand: maybe... when i've got time |
| [01:09:00] | duende: | twisted_one: because i was surprised to see that i couldn't watch tv the same time as my roomate. i would think we would both get the same stream |
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| [01:11:00] | twisted_one: | duende: hrmm, havent tried it yet but I woudl think it would allow per client streams with a finite limit (based on CPU or networking, I dont know which) |
| [01:11:00] | duende: | yeah |
| [01:12:00] | duende: | i just thought it would be cool to setup because my roomate doesn't have a tv in his room |
| [01:15:00] | twisted_one: | that would be nice and I think you should be able too, just a matter of figuring it |
| [01:15:00] | twisted_one: | otu* |
| [01:15:00] | twisted_one: | ./s/otu*/out |
| [01:17:00] | briand: | ...one more minute. just enough time to refill the coffee cup. |
| [01:18:00] | twisted_one: | nice =) |
| [01:18:00] | ** twisted_one crosses his fingers ** | |
| [01:18:00] | twisted_one: | for you and for me |
| [01:18:00] | twisted_one: | finally think I got this driver written correctly |
| [01:19:00] | briand: | monitors turned on... |
| [01:19:00] | briand: | computer plugged in... |
| [01:20:00] | twisted_one: | bah! |
| [01:20:00] | briand: | power on... and booting |
| [01:20:00] | twisted_one: | rebooting to often... |
| [01:20:00] | twisted_one: | stupid checkign hda every 30 boots |
| [01:20:00] | twisted_one: | tunefs /dev/hda NEVER! |
| [01:20:00] | twisted_one: | well, yeah, its a good thing, jsut sucks when testing drivers all the time. |
| [01:21:00] | rtsai: | actually i think it's every 30 *mounts*, not 30 boots. So if you mount /usr read-only, then every install/upgrade of new software counts as 2 mounts |
| [01:22:00] | rtsai: | (read-write, then read-only again) |
| [01:22:00] | twisted_one: | rtsai: yaeh,its mounts =P |
| [01:23:00] | twisted_one: | briand: verdict? |
| [01:25:00] | briand: | as soon as I "modprobe ivtv-fb" i get the "weird" video on the tv. prior to that, i have a black screen there |
| [01:25:00] | twisted_one: | bah |
| [01:25:00] | twisted_one: | im sorry |
| [01:26:00] | briand: | /var/log/messages seems to indicate everything is hunkey-dorey |
| [01:27:00] | briand: | if you do a "ll /dev/video?" what do you get as a return? |
| [01:27:00] | briand: | i get a single line: crw------- 1 mythtv root 81, 0 Jun 4 20:24 /dev/video0 |
| [01:28:00] | twisted_one: | same |
| [01:30:00] | briand: | hmm. |
| [01:30:00] | briand: | this, from the wilson tutorial: |
| [01:30:00] | briand: | $ ll /dev/video? |
| [01:30:00] | briand: | 1 root root 6 Feb 13 18:23 /dev/video -> video0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Feb 06 2005 /dev/video -> video0 |
| [01:30:00] | briand: | crw------- 1 mythtv root 81, 0 Feb 06 2005 /dev/video0 |
| [01:30:00] | briand: | crw------- 1 mythtv root 81, 24 Feb 06 2005 /dev/video24 |
| [01:30:00] | briand: | crw------- 1 mythtv root 81, 32 Feb 06 2005 /dev/video32 |
| [01:30:00] | twisted_one: | that doesnt seem right to me, btu meh |
| [01:30:00] | briand: | hm. |
| [01:30:00] | briand: | well, i don't know. |
| [01:31:00] | twisted_one: | sorry =\ |
| [01:31:00] | twisted_one: | you've got me stumped |
| [01:31:00] | briand: | perhaps there's some different parameters that need to be fed to ivtv, but i'd have no idea what |
| [01:31:00] | twisted_one: | I wonder about the fact that you're using the ivtv-fb driver |
| [01:31:00] | twisted_one: | mines just ivtv |
| [01:32:00] | twisted_one: | and I think you want to use the FB one if you didnt use X |
| [01:32:00] | twisted_one: | IIRC |
| [01:32:00] | twisted_one: | hrmm [ = bracket? |
| [01:32:00] | twisted_one: | ye |
| [01:32:00] | twisted_one: | s |
| [01:32:00] | twisted_one: | me thinks |
| [01:34:00] | twisted_one: | hrmm, not seeing it in /usr/include/linux/input.h though =\ |
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| [01:40:00] | briand: | ok. "lspci -v" reports (in part): |
| [01:40:00] | briand: | 00:0e.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC15 MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01) |
| [01:40:00] | briand: | Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc. WinTV PVR-350 |
| [01:40:00] | briand: | Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 10 |
| [01:40:00] | briand: | Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M] |
| [01:40:00] | briand: | Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2 |
| [01:41:00] | twisted_one: | what would "[" be called according to the kernel? (/usr/include/linux/input.h) |
| [01:41:00] | twisted_one: | briand: Im still saying its a driver/firmware issue |
| [01:41:00] | briand: | it's a "open bracket" |
| [01:41:00] | twisted_one: | briand: the kernel doesnt call it that |
| [01:42:00] | briand: | i don't know what you mean by what the kernel calls it. |
| [01:42:00] | twisted_one: | that file, input.h, is what defines how your kernel handles your key presses |
| [01:43:00] | twisted_one: | well, thats part of it anyways |
| [01:43:00] | briand: | ah. so you need the ASCII code for a '[' |
| [01:43:00] | twisted_one: | not quite |
| [01:43:00] | briand: | keyboard scan code? |
| [01:43:00] | twisted_one: | the kernel takes the input and generates the ascii |
| [01:43:00] | twisted_one: | bah |
| [01:44:00] | briand: | the UTF code for a |
| [01:44:00] | briand: | er, for a '[' is 0x005B |
| [01:45:00] | twisted_one: | not quite it, its KP_KEYNAME |
| [01:45:00] | twisted_one: | Hrmm |
| [01:45:00] | twisted_one: | I would think that "{" is a brac |
| [01:45:00] | twisted_one: | e |
| [01:45:00] | briand: | no, that's a brace |
| [01:45:00] | twisted_one: | but based on the layout of this file, I think they might call that [ a brace |
| [01:45:00] | twisted_one: | I know thats goofy |
| [01:46:00] | twisted_one: | but its actually in order of how your keys are layed out |
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| [01:46:00] | twisted_one: | qwertyuiop... |
| [01:46:00] | twisted_one: | etc |
| [01:46:00] | twisted_one: | im gonna try it =) |
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| [02:03:00] | briand: | do i need to make a symlink? /dev/video -> /dev/video0 ?? |
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| [02:11:00] | briand: | is there anybody here who can help me getting my PVR-350 working? |
| [02:25:00] | briand: | is there anybody here? |
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| [02:47:00] | briand: | is there anybody here who can help me getting my PVR-350 working? |
| [02:51:00] | shifter7: | did you look at ivtv.sf.net and such ? |
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| [02:57:00] | briand: | yes |
| [02:58:00] | briand: | all the various ways people have configured /etc/modprobe.conf ... either produce NO video, or approximately 22 black diagonal lines on the tv out |
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| [03:04:00] | briand: | is there anybody here who can help me getting my PVR-350 working? |
| [03:07:00] | shifter7: | if it does V4L you could use xawtv to try and tune something in |
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| [03:10:00] | jemarcks: | any transcode gurus here to look at this error? |
| [03:10:00] | jemarcks: | mpeg2video @ 0xb58bd430]only YUV420 is supported |
| [03:10:00] | jemarcks: | [export_ffmpeg.so] could not open FFMPEG codec |
| [03:10:00] | jemarcks: | [transcode] warning : (encoder.c) video export module error: init failed |
| [03:10:00] | jemarcks: | [transcode] critical: failed to init encoder |
| [03:10:00] | jemarcks: | Error: transcode failed, file not successfully encoded! |
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| [03:46:00] | xris: | jemarcks: pretty clear that you're missing export_ffmpeg.so |
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| [04:05:00] | ethics: | hey what proogy should i use to rip vob files on my hdd to a smallersize. |
| [04:05:00] | dopester: | have you read the topic? |
| [04:08:00] | ethics: | yeah what about it? |
| [04:10:00] | mchou: | dopester: hey, john send you the binaries yet? |
| [04:10:00] | dopester: | mchou: yeah i got em about 10 minutes after sending the email |
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| [04:11:00] | mchou: | ok, cool. get a change to try it yet? :) |
| [04:11:00] | dopester: | yeah i got it working |
| [04:11:00] | dopester: | im just re-compiling my backend which takes forever |
| [04:11:00] | mchou: | hmm, nice. |
| [04:11:00] | dopester: | proto mismatch |
| [04:11:00] | mchou: | yeah. |
| [04:11:00] | dopester: | my frontend was synched with my production box not my dev box |
| [04:12:00] | mchou: | dopester: you using distcc? |
| [04:12:00] | dopester: | yeah but it doesn't help out too much |
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| [04:12:00] | dopester: | my p4 3.4 still beats the other 3 boxes im distccing with |
| [04:13:00] | mchou: | heh. you got a p4 and myth compile takes forever??? |
| [04:13:00] | mchou: | should be max 20 minutes :) |
| [04:14:00] | dopester: | p4 is fast thats my frontend |
| [04:14:00] | dopester: | backend is an amd1800 |
| [04:14:00] | dopester: | well dev backend |
| [04:14:00] | dopester: | the p4 has been done for a while now |
| [04:15:00] | mchou: | well, can't you compile on the frontend machine and scp the stuff over? :) |
| [04:16:00] | dopester: | oo backend is done |
| [04:16:00] | dopester: | i could |
| [04:16:00] | mchou: | scp the whole compiled dir and do "make install" :) |
| [04:16:00] | dopester: | too much effort |
| [04:16:00] | dopester: | i can wait |
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| [04:21:00] | jemarcks: | yawn |
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| [04:24:00] | jemarcks: | Has anybody tried using any2vob.sh? |
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| [04:41:00] | briand: | this is, quite possibly, the most fucked-up, least clearly documented application i have ever attempted to install. |
| [04:48:00] | djperee-gentoo: | Ok this is a stupid question |
| [04:48:00] | djperee-gentoo: | but I accendently deleted the video player setting |
| [04:48:00] | djperee-gentoo: | for the exterenal video |
| [04:48:00] | djperee-gentoo: | what were the mplayer options ? |
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| [05:14:00] | skone: | anyone use avimanager? |
| [05:14:00] | Beirdo: | WTF is that? |
| [05:15:00] | skone: | http://avimanager.sourceforge.net/ |
| [05:15:00] | Beirdo: | not sure what that has to do with mythtv :) |
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| [05:15:00] | skone: | its part of the knoppmyth install package |
| [05:16:00] | Beirdo: | interesting |
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| [05:33:00] | briand: | i have been modprobe'ing all the damn day. i've tried every option i've been able to find in various wiki's and how-to's etc. some plain don't work. those that do, produce "weird" (?? what? how can i describe it? i can't take a screenshot) video on the PVR-350's TV out. There are *NO* error messages in the /var/log/messages file. All of the drivers for ivtv (and associated modules) load just fine, no complaints from any |
| [05:33:00] | briand: | of 'em. yet, it doesn't work. |
| [05:34:00] | djperee-gentoo: | can you burn cd videos from the menu ? |
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| [05:40:00] | Quan: | is there a way to kick a frontend off the backend without restarting the backend? |
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| [05:42:00] | djperee-gentoo: | what? |
| [05:42:00] | djperee-gentoo: | exit ? |
| [05:43:00] | djperee-gentoo: | exit the frontend |
| [05:43:00] | Quan: | no a box crashed while watching tv, but the backend thinks it's still connected so that encoder is locked |
| [05:44:00] | Quan: | I'm guessing the only way to fix it is to restart the backend... |
| [05:44:00] | Quan: | oh well |
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| [05:49:00] | djperee-gentoo: | oh its wireless ? |
| [05:49:00] | djperee-gentoo: | like backend is on a different comp ? |
| [05:49:00] | Quan: | yeah |
| [05:50:00] | Quan: | the frontend was running on my laptop, laptop crashed |
| [05:50:00] | djperee-gentoo: | I see |
| [05:50:00] | Quan: | restarting the backend fixed it, but it would be nice to have a way to disconnect from the backend without doing that |
| [05:50:00] | djperee-gentoo: | are you on 80211b ? |
| [05:50:00] | djperee-gentoo: | I might do that |
| [05:50:00] | djperee-gentoo: | but I only have 80211b :> |
| [05:50:00] | Quan: | i.e. if I had the second encoder recording that would have sucked |
| [05:50:00] | Quan: | I'm on b |
| [05:51:00] | Quan: | runs fine |
| [05:51:00] | djperee-gentoo: | and it accually works ? hrmm |
| [05:51:00] | Quan: | encoding at 320x240 |
| [05:51:00] | djperee-gentoo: | well I accually want to use my laptop so nm lol |
| [05:51:00] | Quan: | I have myth in a little window :) |
| [05:51:00] | djperee-gentoo: | :D |
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| [05:51:00] | Quan: | sitting on the back porch, drinking a beer, watching tv :P |
| [05:51:00] | djperee-gentoo: | lol |
| [05:51:00] | djperee-gentoo: | nice |
| [05:52:00] | rinco: | anyone had any success with xbmcmythtv and mythtv 0.18? |
| [05:52:00] | Quan: | djperee-gentoo: just install frontend on the laptop, it should run fine |
| [05:52:00] | djperee-gentoo: | yes |
| [05:52:00] | djperee-gentoo: | but its windows right now |
| [05:52:00] | djperee-gentoo: | pain to get it working |
| [05:52:00] | Quan: | djperee-gentoo: ah :( |
| [05:53:00] | djperee-gentoo: | Oh yea knopmyth runs frontend on the cd huh... |
| [05:53:00] | Quan: | djperee-gentoo: trouble getting linux on it? |
| [05:53:00] | djperee-gentoo: | no |
| [05:53:00] | djperee-gentoo: | just lazy :P |
| [05:53:00] | djperee-gentoo: | plus I do wnat a windows box :P |
| [05:53:00] | Quan: | hehe yeah just use knopmyth and a usb stick :) |
| [05:53:00] | rinco: | frontend works great in osx |
| [05:53:00] | djperee-gentoo: | :D |
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| [05:53:00] | Quan: | rinco: glad to hear that, about to help a friend set his up on an ibook |
| [05:54:00] | djperee-gentoo: | I still don't even have a tv tuner :P |
| [05:54:00] | Quan: | rinco: wouldn't be a problem if he could get the airport extreme to run under linux :( |
| [05:54:00] | rinco: | i can even run mythtv-setup from my headless linux box using xdarwin |
| [05:54:00] | Quan: | djperee-gentoo: so what do you use myth for? |
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| [05:54:00] | djperee-gentoo: | Nothig atm |
| [05:55:00] | Quan: | hehe |
| [05:55:00] | djperee-gentoo: | I just set up a hour ago :D |
| [05:55:00] | djperee-gentoo: | *set it up |
| [05:55:00] | Quan: | well cool, welcome to myth :) |
| [05:55:00] | djperee-gentoo: | I want to do everything I can before I get the tvtuner :P |
| [05:55:00] | djperee-gentoo: | my shitty vid card has no tv out :> |
| [05:56:00] | Quan: | I don't watch myth on the tv hehe |
| [05:56:00] | Quan: | I have way more pcs than tvs anyway |
| [05:56:00] | rinco: | i hope to watch some mythtv on my psp |
| [05:56:00] | Quan: | now THAT would rock |
| [05:56:00] | rinco: | but first i need to sort out this xbmcmythtv craziness |
| [05:57:00] | Quan: | rinco: when you're done with that, you can get some of this :P http://news.com.com/2061-10797_3-5730212.html |
| [05:57:00] | rinco: | yeah i read about that already ;) |
| [05:57:00] | Quan: | hehe |
| [05:59:00] | Quan: | rinco: have you played any umd movies on it yet? |
| [05:59:00] | rinco: | no |
| [05:59:00] | djperee-gentoo: | oh yea |
| [05:59:00] | fryfrog: | rinco: where do you find xbmcmythtv? |
| [05:59:00] | rinco: | just some mp4s off the net |
| [05:59:00] | rinco: | fryfrog: sourceforge |
| [05:59:00] | fryfrog: | xbmcmythtv.sf.net? |
| [05:59:00] | djperee-gentoo: | is there a way to burn VCDs ? |
| [05:59:00] | djperee-gentoo: | via the menu |
| [06:00:00] | rinco: | yeah but the website is bare, you gotta go to the sf page |
| [06:00:00] | Beirdo: | djpere-gentoo: do you see one? |
| [06:00:00] | djperee-gentoo: | ? |
| [06:00:00] | djperee-gentoo: | no ? |
| [06:00:00] | rinco: | it only looks like its 0.17 compatible... which is a shame because i went from 0.16->0.18 |
| [06:00:00] | Beirdo: | then likely no |
| [06:00:00] | Quan: | djperee-gentoo: use nuvexport from a command line |
| [06:00:00] | djperee-gentoo: | :> |
| [06:01:00] | djperee-gentoo: | Well I haven't configured any cd rom drivers |
| [06:01:00] | djperee-gentoo: | or anything |
| [06:01:00] | Beirdo: | there's nuv2disc or something like that... jams wrote it |
| [06:01:00] | djperee-gentoo: | I can read I dunno about write |
| [06:02:00] | Quan: | nuvexport will do dvd/vcd/wmv and uh...some more :P |
| [06:02:00] | Quan: | Xvid, svcd, vcd, dvd, and mpeg2 |
| [06:02:00] | rinco: | mp4? |
| [06:02:00] | Quan: | maybe the newer one |
| [06:03:00] | Quan: | used to do wmv too |
| [06:03:00] | Quan: | but it's gone in the new version for some reason |
| [06:03:00] | Beirdo: | because it still does |
| [06:03:00] | Quan: | in fact it used to do a LOT more formats |
| [06:03:00] | Beirdo: | ASF |
| [06:03:00] | Quan: | Beirdo ? |
| [06:03:00] | Beirdo: | no it didn't |
| [06:03:00] | Quan: | hrmm I musta fscked something up then |
| [06:03:00] | Beirdo: | it does more formats now than it ever did before |
| [06:04:00] | Beirdo: | what we had called WMV really was ASF, so it got renamed |
| [06:04:00] | Quan: | I used to get divx, wmv, OGM, mp3 only |
| [06:04:00] | djperee-gentoo: | arg |
| [06:04:00] | Quan: | now I just get the ones above |
| [06:04:00] | ** Quan upgrades ** | |
| [06:05:00] | Beirdo: | Well, I think it's time for bed |
| [06:05:00] | Quan: | nite Beirdo, thanks for the info I'm upgrading nuvexport now :) |
| [06:05:00] | Beirdo: | good luck, dude :) |
| [06:06:00] | Beirdo: | it should work well enough |
| [06:06:00] | Quan: | it should be part of the core :P |
| [06:06:00] | Beirdo: | nah |
| [06:08:00] | djperee-gentoo: | if I could burn vcd |
| [06:08:00] | djperee-gentoo: | s fomr the menu |
| [06:08:00] | djperee-gentoo: | where would it be? |
| [06:09:00] | Quan: | djperee-gentoo: you can't from the menu |
| [06:09:00] | djperee-gentoo: | oh |
| [06:09:00] | djperee-gentoo: | that is lame |
| [06:09:00] | Quan: | djperee-gentoo: you can use nuvexport to create the vcd files |
| [06:09:00] | djperee-gentoo: | I have to unmask it |
| [06:10:00] | Quan: | unmask? |
| [06:11:00] | djpere-gentoo: | gentoo thing :P |
| [06:11:00] | djpere-gentoo: | anyway its going |
| [06:11:00] | djpere-gentoo: | 1 out of 17 :> |
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| [06:15:00] | `: | does anyone know if the ivtv drivers in Gentoo's portage are OK to use.... or should i just use the drivers from ivtv's site |
| [06:19:00] | djperee-gentoo: | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV#ivtv |
| [06:24:00] | `: | djpere-gentoo, I disregarded much information on the page already, as I knew it couldn't possibly be the most currrent. It tells me to use XFree, when XOrg's been the standard for quite some time. |
| [06:25:00] | `: | to me, that says its quite old. I didn't see when it was last updated |
| [06:25:00] | NightMonkey: | `: Works For Me(tm. Follow the ivtv and mythtv.org docs. |
| [06:25:00] | NightMonkey: | Er, (tm) |
| [06:26:00] | `: | NightMonkey, the drivers in portage worked for you? |
| [06:26:00] | NightMonkey: | `: Yep, with my PVR-350. Dunno about other cards. |
| [06:26:00] | `: | ok i have a 250 |
| [06:26:00] | `: | It should be good ;) |
| [06:26:00] | `: | thanks |
| [06:26:00] | NightMonkey: | `: I've heard that works, but I can't tell you from experience. |
| [06:27:00] | `: | Rebuilding..... I last built it a year and a half ago..... |
| [06:27:00] | fryfrog: | does anyone watch adult swim? |
| [06:27:00] | `: | and it lost the OS drive |
| [06:27:00] | NightMonkey: | `: A suggestion: run stable, then selectively use unstable packages as needed. |
| [06:27:00] | fryfrog: | `: the gentoo ebuild is fine, and its very very easy to update it to be the "latest" |
| [06:28:00] | fryfrog: | `: i keep my ivtv ebuild updated to lates 0.2 series |
| [06:28:00] | NightMonkey: | `: Use /etc/portage/package.keywords to add unstable packages. |
| [06:28:00] | fryfrog: | also, ` is an annoying ass nick |
| [06:29:00] | fryfrog: | i feel like i'm talking to tinkerbell :p |
| [06:29:00] | NightMonkey: | `: Or Dan Qualye on Doonsbury. |
| [06:29:00] | `: | NightMonkey, thats what I do |
| [06:30:00] | NightMonkey: | `: Excellent. |
| [06:30:00] | NightMonkey: | `: Make sure to move the kernel msp3400.ko out of the way after you emerge ivtv. |
| [06:30:00] | `: | fryfrog, i don't know how my nick became `, but it did |
| [06:31:00] | NightMonkey: | Well, at least his nick isn't <CTRL-G> ;) |
| [06:31:00] | NightMonkey: | (or her) |
| [06:33:00] | `: | alrighty sounds good thanks guys |
| [06:33:00] | `: | & i am male :-P |
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| [06:35:00] | djperee-gentoo: | myth on PSP ? yea right lol |
| [06:35:00] | djperee-gentoo: | myth on palm!! :P |
| [06:36:00] | djperee-gentoo: | whats the cheapest tv tuner ? ever? |
| [06:36:00] | rtsai: | i've got an old 13" B&W TV I can sell you ... |
| [06:37:00] | ** rtsai listens to crickets chirping ** | |
| [06:37:00] | rtsai: | tough crowd |
| [06:37:00] | NightMonkey: | djperee-gentoo: What are you talking about – myth on palm? PSP? |
| [06:37:00] | djperee-gentoo: | someone earliesr said that |
| [06:37:00] | djperee-gentoo: | he wanted it working on psp |
| [06:37:00] | NightMonkey: | Hah! |
| [06:37:00] | djperee-gentoo: | I think he is insane :P |
| [06:38:00] | djperee-gentoo: | Anyway |
| [06:38:00] | djperee-gentoo: | http://www.softwareandstuff.com/card_cinpro.html |
| [06:38:00] | djperee-gentoo: | whould that work? |
| [06:38:00] | rinco: | dj: me |
| [06:38:00] | djperee-gentoo: | yes you :P |
| [06:38:00] | djperee-gentoo: | I think I might get that |
| [06:38:00] | djperee-gentoo: | its 5 bucks |
| [06:38:00] | djperee-gentoo: | what could I lose |
| [06:38:00] | djperee-gentoo: | ? |
| [06:39:00] | rinco: | many hours of your life |
| [06:39:00] | djperee-gentoo: | ? |
| [06:40:00] | djperee-gentoo: | hours of my life setting that up? |
| [06:40:00] | rinco: | sure |
| [06:41:00] | djperee-gentoo: | I wonder if it worksi cable |
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| [06:43:00] | djperee-gentoo: | http://www.softwareandstuff.com/CRD10186.html |
| [06:43:00] | djperee-gentoo: | worth the 10 bucks? |
| [06:44:00] | nixbased: | depends on if you enjoy headaches |
| [06:44:00] | djperee-gentoo: | lol |
| [06:44:00] | djperee-gentoo: | I am asking does it matter |
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| [06:44:00] | djperee-gentoo: | like which is more compatable |
| [06:45:00] | rtsai: | the second one has mpeg hardware encoding, i think. Wouldn't that alone be worth the extra $10? |
| [06:45:00] | djperee-gentoo: | ture |
| [06:45:00] | djperee-gentoo: | true |
| [06:45:00] | djperee-gentoo: | that is what i thought |
| [06:45:00] | nixbased: | 2nd 1 by far |
| [06:46:00] | rtsai: | i don't think the first one will give you TV. You only get 24fps at most, at 320x240 |
| [06:46:00] | nixbased: | i figure if we can make the pvr500MCE work that has potential lol |
| [06:46:00] | djperee-gentoo: | lol |
| [06:46:00] | djperee-gentoo: | Yea ok |
| [06:46:00] | rtsai: | this is a cool site |
| [06:46:00] | djperee-gentoo: | software and stuff ? |
| [06:46:00] | rtsai: | it resolves to "surpluscomputers.com" |
| [06:47:00] | rtsai: | how can they offer free shipping on a $3.99 item? |
| [06:47:00] | rtsai: | (and stay in business) |
| [06:47:00] | djperee-gentoo: | lol |
| [06:47:00] | nixbased: | the 1st will give you TV for sure but quality will be crap and it would be pointless |
| [06:47:00] | rtsai: | isn't TV like 59.94 fps? |
| [06:48:00] | djperee-gentoo: | ok ok I am getting the second one :P |
| [06:48:00] | nixbased: | like i said theres a quality issue there lol |
| [06:48:00] | djperee-gentoo: | even in the second one? |
| [06:49:00] | nixbased: | it would vbe like a flip book missing pics |
| [06:49:00] | djperee-gentoo: | the second one>? |
| [06:49:00] | djperee-gentoo: | or the first? |
| [06:49:00] | djperee-gentoo: | first is out of the question lol |
| [06:49:00] | rtsai: | second should be fine (assuming you get it to work) |
| [06:50:00] | djperee-gentoo: | ok |
| [06:50:00] | djperee-gentoo: | I think I compiled it in the kernel |
| [06:50:00] | djperee-gentoo: | for that |
| [06:50:00] | nixbased: | i dont see any specs on the 2nd about anything that matters but it works with cable so i assumne it would give you atleast mediocer tv |
| [06:51:00] | rtsai: | for an extra $15 on top of that, you get FM and a snazzy-looking remote: http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.as . . . tem=CRD10158 |
| [06:51:00] | rinco: | no steak knives? |
| [06:51:00] | nixbased: | i want someone to rework mythfm :( |
| [06:51:00] | djperee-gentoo: | http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.as . . . tem=CRD10158 |
| [06:51:00] | djperee-gentoo: | nm nm |
| [06:51:00] | djperee-gentoo: | sorry |
| [06:53:00] | djperee-gentoo: | Do the TV tuners have ir ports? |
| [06:53:00] | djperee-gentoo: | I don't |
| [06:53:00] | rinco: | i dont have an ir port either |
| [06:54:00] | nixbased: | pvr 250 does |
| [06:54:00] | rtsai: | and you know it works with mythtv: http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/HardWare_2fVideoCaptureCards |
| [06:54:00] | rtsai: | [the second one] |
| [06:55:00] | rtsai: | now your headache will be that much worse wondering why everyone else got theirs working :) |
| [06:56:00] | nixbased: | lmao reminds me of the 1st setup of LIRC |
| [06:56:00] | djperee-gentoo: | Buts its 100 dollars! |
| [06:56:00] | rtsai: | what's $100? It's like $15 ("extra $10 more than that cheapo $5 one") |
| [06:56:00] | djperee-gentoo: | http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-detail |
| [06:57:00] | djperee-gentoo: | pvr250 |
| [06:57:00] | djperee-gentoo: | is 15 bucks? |
| [06:57:00] | djperee-gentoo: | but fuck a remote |
| [06:57:00] | djperee-gentoo: | remote keyboard |
| [06:57:00] | rtsai: | no no, the wintv/go is $15 on this surpluscomputers.com website you showed us, and now I can't leave it |
| [06:57:00] | djperee-gentoo: | Lol |
| [06:57:00] | djperee-gentoo: | yes |
| [06:58:00] | djperee-gentoo: | I will just buy that shit and a wifi keyboard and all will be good |
| [06:58:00] | rtsai: | don't forget your IR (or RF) receiver |
| [06:58:00] | djperee-gentoo: | ? |
| [06:58:00] | djperee-gentoo: | a wifi keyboard instead of a remote |
| [06:58:00] | rtsai: | you need something to point your wireless keyboard/remote *at* |
| [06:59:00] | djperee-gentoo: | oh |
| [06:59:00] | rtsai: | haha |
| [06:59:00] | djperee-gentoo: | I thought it was like |
| [06:59:00] | djperee-gentoo: | nm |
| [06:59:00] | djperee-gentoo: | lol |
| [06:59:00] | rtsai: | well, wireless keyboard will come with something |
| [06:59:00] | rtsai: | if you want a real remote, you'll have to come up with something |
| [06:59:00] | rtsai: | some places will sell you a cheap wireless keyboard and then you realize you have no receiver |
| [06:59:00] | fryfrog: | that card is NOT a pvr250 |
| [06:59:00] | djperee-gentoo: | http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searc . . . =OTC-FROOGLE |
| [07:00:00] | rtsai: | fryfrog: correct |
| [07:00:00] | djperee-gentoo: | http://images.tigerdirect.com/itemdetails/F18 . . . 122-witb.jpg |
| [07:00:00] | djperee-gentoo: | notice the adapter |
| [07:00:00] | rtsai: | yeh. 6 feet is kind of short-range, no? |
| [07:00:00] | djperee-gentoo: | don't need it longer |
| [07:01:00] | djperee-gentoo: | my tv its really shitty prob isn't any better |
| [07:01:00] | rtsai: | well, if you ever want to get a real remote, I think RF remotes cost more than IR remotes |
| [07:01:00] | rtsai: | you should be able to find an IR keyboard for about the same price |
| [07:02:00] | djperee-gentoo: | how cheap are the infrared cards |
| [07:02:00] | djperee-gentoo: | ? |
| [07:02:00] | rtsai: | i think most people get a "winamp" remote on ebay for like $12, and throw away the remote |
| [07:02:00] | rtsai: | but then you have to deal with lirc |
| [07:02:00] | rtsai: | wireless keyboard is easier, no lirc |
| [07:02:00] | djperee-gentoo: | Yes |
| [07:02:00] | djperee-gentoo: | hrm |
| [07:02:00] | djperee-gentoo: | where is my stash :> |
| [07:03:00] | djperee-gentoo: | how could you lose 100 cds |
| [07:03:00] | djperee-gentoo: | LOL |
| [07:03:00] | djperee-gentoo: | its right there nm |
| [07:04:00] | rtsai: | dammit djperee i'm spending too much time on this stupid surpluscomputers.com site |
| [07:05:00] | djperee-gentoo: | Lol |
| [07:05:00] | rtsai: | haha: http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.as . . . tem=CRD10030 |
| [07:06:00] | rtsai: | also comes in a 30-pack! |
| [07:06:00] | djperee-gentoo: | lol |
| [07:06:00] | rtsai: | Free LBA Support: enables your system to breakthrough the 8.4GB Maximum hard drive capacity barrier up to 32GB |
| [07:06:00] | rtsai: | now i can run myth |
| [07:06:00] | djperee-gentoo: | lol |
| [07:07:00] | djperee-gentoo: | really? |
| [07:07:00] | djperee-gentoo: | for like my tv tuner + 200 bucks I could totaly pimp my box out |
| [07:07:00] | djperee-gentoo: | and be all good :D |
| [07:08:00] | rtsai: | for this $5 "y2k" card i can pimp out my old machine from a 8GB HD to a 32GB HD |
| [07:09:00] | nixbased: | does anyone know if their are debs out for 0.18.1 under ubuntu? |
| [07:10:00] | djperee-gentoo: | should |
| [07:10:00] | djperee-gentoo: | be |
| [07:11:00] | djperee-gentoo: | I dunno about 0.18.1 part |
| [07:11:00] | djperee-gentoo: | but 18.0 I would hope so |
| [07:11:00] | nixbased: | i dont see it tho i only see 0.17 |
| [07:13:00] | rinco: | im using mythtv 0.18 with debian |
| [07:13:00] | djperee-gentoo: | oh man |
| [07:14:00] | rinco: | http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/ |
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| [07:17:00] | nixbased: | ya i know its in debian just didnt know if anyone put it in ubuntu repositories |
| [07:17:00] | djperee-gentoo: | :? |
| [07:18:00] | j-rod: | same guy that builds the debian packages builds ubuntu packages (he works for canonical) |
| [07:18:00] | j-rod: | so the two are typically in sync |
| [07:19:00] | nixbased: | strange then why I only see 0.17 then but i can just use the debian debs im sure there wont be a diff |
| [07:22:00] | j-rod: | haven't actually looked in a while |
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| [07:29:00] | djperee-gentoo: | xmame takes a million years to compile |
| [07:29:00] | djperee-gentoo: | and has 40000 flags :P |
| [07:31:00] | ** j-rod doesn't care to hear any complaints about having to compile things from gentoo users... :) ** | |
| [07:32:00] | djperee-gentoo: | lol |
| [07:33:00] | j-rod: | http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/ |
| [07:33:00] | j-rod: | funny pix |
| [07:33:00] | djperee-gentoo: | Did you see the bug in xchat where the guy wanted to have a autoban on his irc channel for gentoo users because of things like that ? |
| [07:33:00] | djperee-gentoo: | lol |
| [07:34:00] | j-rod: | hah |
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| [07:41:00] | djperee-gentoo: | so do I spend 40 bucks on a harder system, more scattered ( two parts, tv tuner and winamp remote ) |
| [07:41:00] | djperee-gentoo: | or 80 on a pvr-250 |
| [07:41:00] | djperee-gentoo: | Hrm |
| [07:42:00] | fryfrog: | thoase are awsome! |
| [07:42:00] | fryfrog: | http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/slackware.jpg |
| [07:42:00] | djperee-gentoo: | yea :D |
| [07:43:00] | rtsai: | hey, slackware was pretty good in 1995 ... |
| [07:43:00] | djperee-gentoo: | :P |
| [07:44:00] | fryfrog: | i love the gentoo one :) |
| [07:45:00] | fryfrog: | do you know who has the copy right on those? |
| [07:47:00] | djperee-gentoo: | :O |
| [07:47:00] | djperee-gentoo: | http://www.magicitx.com/modules.php?name=cata . . . oducts_id=43 |
| [07:47:00] | djperee-gentoo: | I used to have debian |
| [07:47:00] | djperee-gentoo: | but I couldn't compile anything |
| [07:47:00] | djperee-gentoo: | at all |
| [07:47:00] | djperee-gentoo: | It drove me crazy |
| [07:48:00] | djperee-gentoo: | I mean I COULLD |
| [07:48:00] | djperee-gentoo: | but it took forever to get it right |
| [07:48:00] | djperee-gentoo: | alot of hte files were in wierd places |
| [07:49:00] | Cardoe: | did someone ping? |
| [07:49:00] | fryfrog: | http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg |
| [07:50:00] | fryfrog: | no, but you should go see that :) |
| [07:50:00] | rinco: | djperee-gentoo: you had trouble with apt-get source? |
| [07:50:00] | djperee-gentoo: | yes |
| [07:50:00] | djperee-gentoo: | and manual compling |
| [07:50:00] | djperee-gentoo: | moslty with manually compling stuff |
| [07:50:00] | rinco: | i use fink... its like the best of debian and the worst of gentoo |
| [07:51:00] | j-rod: | <--- rpm whore |
| [07:51:00] | j-rod: | w/apt |
| [07:51:00] | j-rod: | also a debian user |
| [07:51:00] | rtsai: | yeah, debian sources sometimes have weird patches that won't compile on "different" systems |
| [07:51:00] | j-rod: | tried gentoo, didn't care for the tedium ad infinitum |
| [07:52:00] | djperee-gentoo: | if you have alot of time on your hands then gentoo is good :D |
| [07:52:00] | djperee-gentoo: | otherwise , debian |
| [07:53:00] | fryfrog: | who ever did those images did a really really great job |
| [07:53:00] | fryfrog: | the mandrake and gentoo ones are so damn good |
| [07:53:00] | djperee-gentoo: | yes |
| [07:53:00] | djperee-gentoo: | lol |
| [07:54:00] | fryfrog: | i don't understand the ubuntu one |
| [07:54:00] | ** j-rod really likes Mac OS X 10.4 on his brand new PowerBook G4 ** | |
| [07:54:00] | fryfrog: | but prolly cause i don't really know what ubuntu is |
| [07:54:00] | rinco: | fryfrog: i wouldnt hang them on my wall |
| [07:54:00] | ** rinco hi5 j-rod powerbook rules ** | |
| [07:54:00] | djperee-gentoo: | mac OSX isn't even gnu right? |
| [07:54:00] | fryfrog: | rinco: i would :) |
| [07:54:00] | djperee-gentoo: | its freebsd or sth ? |
| [07:54:00] | rinco: | osx is darwin is bsd |
| [07:54:00] | fryfrog: | rinco: do you have any of the real "despair" posters? |
| [07:54:00] | djperee-gentoo: | :> |
| [07:54:00] | djperee-gentoo: | that sucks |
| [07:54:00] | rinco: | fryfrog: yeah 2 on my wall in front of me |
| [07:54:00] | fryfrog: | freebsd is not gnu |
| [07:54:00] | djperee-gentoo: | I konw |
| [07:55:00] | fryfrog: | rinco: which ones? |
| [07:55:00] | rinco: | pessimism and procrastination |
| [07:55:00] | j-rod: | the auto-dimming screen and light-up keyboard is just too cool... :) |
| [07:55:00] | fryfrog: | i'd like some of those to put in my photo gallery :) |
| [07:55:00] | fryfrog: | i mean, online |
| [07:55:00] | fryfrog: | but i don't wanna plagarize their stuff :) |
| [07:55:00] | j-rod: | time to start playing with the OS X Myth frontend again... |
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| [07:56:00] | djperee-gentoo: | Yay xmame is done!/ er finishing |
| [07:56:00] | fryfrog: | I'd love to see a couple more of those despair ones from the other site for like osx, freebsd and maybe something else :) |
| [07:57:00] | fryfrog: | oh, what was that short multi-media OS? |
| [07:57:00] | fryfrog: | short lived |
| [07:57:00] | fryfrog: | ummm |
| [07:57:00] | djperee-gentoo: | the dude who tries to start linux from scratch :P |
| [07:57:00] | fryfrog: | BeOS? |
| [07:58:00] | djperee-gentoo: | are you joking its still gonig >><< |
| [07:58:00] | fryfrog: | xmame? |
| [07:58:00] | djperee-gentoo: | yes |
| [07:58:00] | djperee-gentoo: | I need to figure out how the binarys work |
| [07:58:00] | djperee-gentoo: | for gentoo |
| [07:58:00] | fryfrog: | i never tried mame |
| [07:58:00] | fryfrog: | sorry |
| [07:59:00] | djperee-gentoo: | comping for myth :D |
| [07:59:00] | djperee-gentoo: | shit its 12 |
| [07:59:00] | djperee-gentoo: | FUCK |
| [07:59:00] | djperee-gentoo: | I will have to do that over again if I restart |
| [07:59:00] | djperee-gentoo: | lol |
| [08:00:00] | ** Cardoe yawns ** | |
| [08:00:00] | ** Cardoe has been hacking at the MythTV code a lot. ** | |
| [08:01:00] | Cardoe: | I replaced some of it with C#/Mono |
| [08:01:00] | Cardoe: | XMLTV + DataDirect is so much faster + better code in C# |
| [08:01:00] | djperee-gentoo: | :DD |
| [08:01:00] | djperee-gentoo: | Yea |
| [08:01:00] | djperee-gentoo: | C# is awesome |
| [08:02:00] | fryfrog: | djperee-gentoo: emerge ccache |
| [08:02:00] | djperee-gentoo: | ccache? |
| [08:02:00] | Cardoe: | yes |
| [08:02:00] | Cardoe: | it'll speed stuff up |
| [08:02:00] | djperee-gentoo: | ok? |
| [08:02:00] | djperee-gentoo: | in general? |
| [08:02:00] | fryfrog: | it'll speed up re-compiles |
| [08:02:00] | fryfrog: | a lot |
| [08:02:00] | djperee-gentoo: | :D |
| [08:02:00] | rtsai: | only if you "make clean" a lot |
| [08:03:00] | djperee-gentoo: | How long does it take to emerge that |
| [08:03:00] | fryfrog: | and if you kill emerge in the middle of a compile, a restart of emerge won't hurt as bad |
| [08:03:00] | djperee-gentoo: | I gtg soon |
| [08:03:00] | fryfrog: | 2 seconds |
| [08:03:00] | djperee-gentoo: | DAmmit |
| [08:03:00] | fryfrog: | its tiny |
| [08:03:00] | djperee-gentoo: | lol |
| [08:03:00] | djperee-gentoo: | now you tell me |
| [08:03:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: actually it'll speed up regular stuff too |
| [08:03:00] | djperee-gentoo: | I will install the xmame binnarys later |
| [08:03:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: because sometimes parallel builds re-build stuff |
| [08:03:00] | fryfrog: | oh, true |
| [08:04:00] | fryfrog: | but it'll only speed up compiling i mean :) |
| [08:04:00] | fryfrog: | and it gives the most speed up to recomiling the same thing |
| [08:05:00] | djperee-gentoo: | ok cool |
| [08:05:00] | djperee-gentoo: | fuck mame, its all about snes :D |
| [08:06:00] | djperee-gentoo: | dam hella faster |
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| [08:09:00] | djperee-gentoo: | yay snes9x merged |
| [08:10:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: https://dev.cardoe.com/myth/wiki/MythFillDatabaseHelp |
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| [08:13:00] | fryfrog: | so how do you use c# code in linux? |
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| [08:17:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: mono |
| [08:17:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: that's just mythfilldatabase as it is now |
| [08:17:00] | Cardoe: | just patched by me |
| [08:17:00] | Cardoe: | compare it to your current mythfilldatabase --help |
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| [08:26:00] | fryfrog: | ah |
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| [08:34:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: how's it look/ |
| [08:34:00] | Cardoe: | ;) |
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| [08:39:00] | xris: | yay, no more recordings left on my mythbox. |
| [08:42:00] | fryfrog: | rm -Rf /? :) |
| [08:43:00] | fryfrog: | omg, wtf where is netflix? |
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| [10:35:00] | fryfrog: | anyone know much about ubuntu? |
| [10:38:00] | intrade: | its crap |
| [10:38:00] | intrade: | is all i know |
| [10:39:00] | intrade: | its some screwd up version of not debian claiming to be debian |
| [10:39:00] | fryfrog: | http://fryfrog.com/gallery/DespairLinux/aah |
| [10:39:00] | fryfrog: | why is that funny then? |
| [10:40:00] | fryfrog: | or, i mean why is it *supposed* to be funny |
| [10:40:00] | fryfrog: | cause out of all of em, its the only one that doesn't even make me smile |
| [10:40:00] | rinc: | i suspect because the ubuntu cover it looks like the chicks arent wearing much |
| [10:41:00] | rinc: | cover/logo whatever |
| [10:42:00] | intrade: | no idea |
| [10:43:00] | intrade: | i wont be installing it had live cd in removed it after 4 minutes again |
| [10:43:00] | intrade: | worse then suse |
| [10:43:00] | ** laga doesn't like ubuntu either ** | |
| [10:44:00] | laga: | it just doesn't feel right. |
| [10:44:00] | intrade: | yea and they dont make debian compatible pakets |
| [10:44:00] | intrade: | aperantly |
| [10:45:00] | intrade: | minde you there is worse like linspire |
| [10:45:00] | rinc: | mythtv on ubuntu is easy |
| [10:45:00] | intrade: | root only lol |
| [10:45:00] | rinc: | and using ubuntu repository i put mythtv on linspire |
| [10:45:00] | intrade: | if then xandros of these |
| [10:46:00] | intrade: | but i wont use anything else but kanotix |
| [10:46:00] | intrade: | got it all tops lirc with kde and my coolcomand remote |
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| [10:50:00] | laga: | i've installed debian sarge on my server yesterday and i really like it. |
| [10:50:00] | intrade: | ok kano is sid |
| [10:51:00] | laga: | i dont like kanotix. |
| [10:51:00] | laga: | because i dont like KDE. |
| [10:51:00] | intrade: | reason? |
| [10:51:00] | intrade: | oh ok |
| [10:51:00] | intrade: | fluxbox? |
| [10:51:00] | laga: | fluxbox rocks. ;) |
| [10:51:00] | intrade: | loads on kano dont run kde |
| [10:51:00] | intrade: | i love kde |
| [10:52:00] | intrade: | dislike gnome ugly |
| [10:54:00] | rinc: | then perhaps you should have tried kubuntu instead of ubuntu |
| [10:56:00] | intrade: | dont know i got the free cds |
| [10:56:00] | intrade: | they sent |
| [10:57:00] | intrade: | i will try install ubuntu on a mac one day when i get my hands on one |
| [10:57:00] | intrade: | for fun lol |
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| [11:43:00] | fryfrog: | Bitterness: Never be afraid to share your dreams with the world, because there's nothing the world loves more than the taste of really sweet dreams. |
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| [13:02:00] | cygdev: | anyone online ? |
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| [13:03:00] | [kf]naddar: | can't connect to database what is that problem? |
| [13:03:00] | [kf]naddar: | anyone |
| [13:05:00] | rinc: | there is no database |
| [13:05:00] | cygdev: | what kind of error message do you get? is mysqld running ? |
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| [13:06:00] | [kf]naddar: | it ask for setting up ip ect |
| [13:06:00] | [kf]naddar: | but i dont know how to do that |
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| [13:07:00] | [kf]naddar: | rinc: how should i set that good? |
| [13:07:00] | [kf]naddar: | it ask language then settings |
| [13:08:00] | [kf]naddar: | cygdev: can you help |
| [13:08:00] | rinc: | all the cool kids use mysql |
| [13:09:00] | [kf]naddar: | so i need to install that, sorry i'm new |
| [13:11:00] | [kf]naddar: | rinc: do i need to install thaty |
| [13:11:00] | rinc: | yeah but the fun doesnt stop there... then youll need myth-backend |
| [13:12:00] | [kf]naddar: | what linux you use rinc |
| [13:12:00] | rinc: | anything based on debian |
| [13:12:00] | [kf]naddar: | so can you help me with the line's |
| [13:12:00] | [kf]naddar: | apt-get install mysql |
| [13:13:00] | rinc: | if you install mythtv packages it will probably install mysql for you |
| [13:13:00] | [kf]naddar: | i did |
| [13:14:00] | rinc: | which mythtv packages did you install |
| [13:14:00] | [kf]naddar: | i install mythtv and he installed all for me |
| [13:15:00] | [kf]naddar: | i just need myhtv for recording from my vcr |
| [13:15:00] | [kf]naddar: | why need that sql |
| [13:15:00] | rinc: | if you type 'apt-cache show mythtv' youll see what it depends on |
| [13:15:00] | rinc: | you should have mythtv-database, mythtv-frontend, mythtv-backend |
| [13:15:00] | fryfrog: | [kf]naddar: if you just want to record something off your vcr, myth is WAY WAY not what you want |
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| [13:16:00] | [kf]naddar: | you know a program then? |
| [13:16:00] | fryfrog: | [kf]naddar: what kind of tv card are you using, hardware mpeg2 based or not? |
| [13:16:00] | [kf]naddar: | yeah |
| [13:16:00] | fryfrog: | that wasn't an appropriate response to an "or" question ;p |
| [13:16:00] | rinc: | xawtv, mplayer and zap should all record from a composite input (linked to a vcr) |
| [13:17:00] | fryfrog: | if its one of the mpeg2 cards, you can get away with doing "cat /dev/video0 > /path/to/your-new-file.jpg" |
| [13:17:00] | fryfrog: | don't need anything but the mpeg2 card and its driver |
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| [13:21:00] | fryfrog: | you trying to transfer home movies -> pc/dvd? |
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| [13:24:00] | [kf]naddar: | fryfrog |
| [13:24:00] | [kf]naddar: | yeah i try to put vhs to dvd |
| [13:24:00] | fryfrog: | what kind of tv card are you using? |
| [13:25:00] | [kf]naddar: | its working i have xawtv |
| [13:25:00] | [kf]naddar: | but its records bad |
| [13:25:00] | fryfrog: | doesn't look good? |
| [13:25:00] | [kf]naddar: | not at al |
| [13:25:00] | fryfrog: | how are you using the card? |
| [13:25:00] | fryfrog: | coax from vcr to tv card, on channel 3? |
| [13:25:00] | [kf]naddar: | what you mean |
| [13:25:00] | [kf]naddar: | ? |
| [13:25:00] | fryfrog: | RCA cables? |
| [13:26:00] | [kf]naddar: | oh composite 1 |
| [13:26:00] | rinc: | you are probably viewing it in grab mode not overlay |
| [13:26:00] | rinc: | or saving to a disk not fast enough for a raw dump |
| [13:27:00] | [kf]naddar: | its play's perfect |
| [13:27:00] | [kf]naddar: | only record is not easy |
| [13:28:00] | fryfrog: | how do you get xawtv to record? |
| [13:28:00] | [kf]naddar: | in kde |
| [13:28:00] | [kf]naddar: | right klik |
| [13:28:00] | [kf]naddar: | click there |
| [13:30:00] | fryfrog: | .. |
| [13:31:00] | fryfrog: | in kde? |
| [13:31:00] | fryfrog: | not xawtv? |
| [13:31:00] | fryfrog: | right click where? |
| [13:31:00] | fryfrog: | click what? |
| [13:31:00] | fryfrog: | anyway, mythtv isn't your solution. mythtv is like tivo on steroids, its not just a tv viewing app |
| [13:31:00] | fryfrog: | you might want to try "tvtime" but i don't know if it can record |
| [13:31:00] | rinc: | it could be a solution, but its like using a jack hammer |
| [13:32:00] | fryfrog: | technically it would work, but if he is having trouble *now*... he'll certainly never get it installed and working, let alone figure out how to record from the vcr |
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| [13:33:00] | fryfrog: | hell, it took *ME* 2 or 3 tries to get it installed... and i'm not sure if i'd even know how to setup a "right now, record from the vcr" thing :) |
| [13:33:00] | [kf]naddar: | ok i found to captyure nice |
| [13:33:00] | [kf]naddar: | just sound thanks gyuyu's |
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| [13:34:00] | fryfrog: | weird guy :) |
| [13:34:00] | fryfrog: | wonder if he was esol? |
| [13:34:00] | rinc: | theres one on every channel |
| [13:35:00] | fryfrog: | i have my credit card number memorized now :/ |
| [13:36:00] | fryfrog: | does anyone else have that problem? |
| [13:36:00] | rinc: | i remember more important things, like my dvb scan frequencies |
| [13:36:00] | fryfrog: | hahah |
| [13:36:00] | fryfrog: | it wasn't a consious effort |
| [13:36:00] | fryfrog: | i just realized one day when i forgot my wallet at home and wanted to order something |
| [13:37:00] | fryfrog: | i went to order it, then went looking for my wallet... and found that i could put in the entire # plus security code from memory :/ |
| [13:38:00] | rinc: | i have also memorised your # + security code |
| [13:38:00] | fryfrog: | hahah |
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| [13:39:00] | fryfrog: | i've got a referer from http://www.parkcitiestactical.com, but i can't figure out from where :/ |
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| [13:41:00] | kernoman: | I have just transcoded a recording to remove the adverts (my first time) and find that when playing it back it appears to run at a slower frame rate, im usng the pvr 350 tv out, has anyone else noticed this? |
| [13:45:00] | kernoman: | quiet here? |
| [13:46:00] | stoffel: | yes |
| [13:46:00] | kernoman: | im new to irc, is everyone just logged in but not using the channel? |
| [13:47:00] | stoffel: | ah, yes |
| [13:48:00] | kernoman: | do you use the pvr 350 tvout? |
| [13:48:00] | stoffel: | no |
| [13:48:00] | kernoman: | nads :( |
| [13:49:00] | fryfrog: | kernoman: what format did you transcode from and to, sir? |
| [13:50:00] | kernoman: | well it was from a recording so whatever the dafault is and converted it to divx |
| [13:51:00] | fryfrog: | ah, and there in lies the rub sir |
| [13:51:00] | fryfrog: | a pvr 350 records in mpeg2 format, and the tvout of a pvr 350 only accelerates mpeg2 |
| [13:52:00] | fryfrog: | so by transcoding it to divx (mpeg4 i think you mean?), the pvr 350 is no longer able to do the output in an acceptable manner :/ |
| [13:52:00] | kernoman: | so its no good for TV out really then? is this a limitation of the driver or the hardware? can it not just pass the signal through without trying to decode it? |
| [13:53:00] | fryfrog: | its one of the couple of "problems" with a 350, which is why i prefer a 250 + nvidia card |
| [13:53:00] | fryfrog: | kernoman: what cpu is in the systeM? |
| [13:53:00] | fryfrog: | in *theory* it should still be able to output non-mpeg2, it just requires that the system do all the work |
| [13:53:00] | fryfrog: | but since you are probably using ivtv-fb driver, X has to do all this stuff and send it to the frame buffer |
| [13:54:00] | kernoman: | i have a 250 and nvidia card as well but I thought the quality of the tvout from nvidia card was not too good, looked very washed out and not very sharp (i.e. in focus). PC is acting as a back and frontend and is a athlon xp2700 with 1gb ram |
| [13:54:00] | fryfrog: | humm, well i would imagine the cpu is powerful enough to do the work |
| [13:54:00] | fryfrog: | but that said, i've never had a 350 :) |
| [13:54:00] | fryfrog: | and i use a pc monitor to watch tv |
| [13:55:00] | fryfrog: | so, i think you probably have only one *real* option... don't transcode out of mpeg2 |
| [13:55:00] | GeckoFiend: | kernoman there are LOTS of factors that can affect your picture quality. |
| [13:55:00] | fryfrog: | i think there is a way to "transcode" to remove the commercials, and when you do it mpeg2->mpeg2, it actually just drops the frames and doesn't do any hard work |
| [13:56:00] | kernoman: | ahh ok, i must admit the quality of the tvout on the 350 is excellent but it does seem to cause me a lot of problems with lockups and black screens going from the guide back to live tv etc, if only I could get nice tv out from the nvidia card... |
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| [13:56:00] | fryfrog: | kernoman: i bought an HDTV with HDMI (DVI) inputs |
| [13:56:00] | fryfrog: | when i hook my pc up to that, it looks fantabulous :) |
| [13:56:00] | kernoman: | im in the UK no such thing here as HDTV yet.... |
| [13:56:00] | fryfrog: | oh, suke-tastic :/ |
| [13:57:00] | kernoman: | yep :) |
| [13:57:00] | GeckoFiend: | kernoman I don't do SDTV anymore but when I did you couldn't tell the difference between my straight satellite feed and the myth box |
| [13:57:00] | fryfrog: | there are probably some tweaks you can do on your XF86Config file and maybe with the nvidia-settings tool |
| [13:57:00] | fryfrog: | GeckoFiend: were you using svideo? |
| [13:57:00] | GeckoFiend: | yep |
| [13:57:00] | fryfrog: | did pc stuff look bad, i mean like a console or real x? |
| [13:57:00] | kernoman: | GeckoFiend: and outputting to a standard tv? |
| [13:57:00] | fryfrog: | i imagine myth looks nice cause it was designed to be viewed on a tv |
| [13:58:00] | kernoman: | looks great to me on 350 tvout ... looked very fuzzy and lacked colours using nvidia |
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| [13:58:00] | fryfrog: | i hear the 350's out looks great, just hard to use |
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| [13:59:00] | GeckoFiend: | kernoman well yeah that's kinda how you do SDTV |
| [13:59:00] | fryfrog: | i have an old mpeg2 accelerator card that is supposed to have one of the best tv outputs |
| [13:59:00] | GeckoFiend: | fryfrog that's not true |
| [13:59:00] | kernoman: | GeckoFiend: whats SDTV |
| [13:59:00] | fryfrog: | Standard Definition |
| [13:59:00] | fryfrog: | (vs. High( |
| [13:59:00] | fryfrog: | GeckoFiend: whats not true? |
| [13:59:00] | GeckoFiend: | there'd be a LOT different if we targeted monitors instead of TVs |
| [13:59:00] | kernoman: | ahh ok, we only have SD |
| [14:00:00] | kernoman: | my tv does 100hz though :) |
| [14:00:00] | fryfrog: | 08:57 < fryfrog> i imagine myth looks nice cause it was designed to be viewed on a tv |
| [14:00:00] | fryfrog: | that? |
| [14:00:00] | kernoman: | right im off for some food, back later |
| [14:00:00] | fryfrog: | have you ever seen a windows desktop on a tv, over svideo or rca? |
| [14:00:00] | fryfrog: | it looks like crap |
| [14:00:00] | GeckoFiend: | kernoman you want your refresh tied to the video source though for the best picture |
| [14:00:00] | GeckoFiend: | yeah |
| [14:00:00] | fryfrog: | but myth has big text, big pictures and not a ton of stuff on the screen |
| [14:01:00] | kernoman: | GeckoFiend: er in english please :) |
| [14:01:00] | fryfrog: | so it looks very nice |
| [14:01:00] | kernoman: | back soon... |
| [14:01:00] | GeckoFiend: | fryfrog nvm I'm not awake yet and misread that |
| [14:01:00] | fryfrog: | a 24fps movie looks best played at 24fps :) |
| [14:01:00] | rinc: | hdtv looks great on my lcd |
| [14:01:00] | fryfrog: | not a 24fps movie at like 55fps :) |
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| [14:01:00] | fryfrog: | hdtv looks teh awsome on my new tv :) |
| [14:02:00] | fryfrog: | i need to try this crap-cast PVR's two firewire ports in myth |
| [14:02:00] | fryfrog: | see if i can record HDTV from them |
| [14:02:00] | fryfrog: | its got two tuners, i'm hoping each firewire port is for 1 tuner |
| [14:05:00] | rinc: | i got 2 tuners for pic in pic... but my xbox has not enough ram |
| [14:06:00] | GeckoFiend: | I never understood the appeal if pic in pic |
| [14:06:00] | GeckoFiend: | don't think I've ever used it |
| [14:06:00] | rinc: | what i really wanted was pic * 4 in pic |
| [14:11:00] | fryfrog: | i've never used pic-in-pic :) |
| [14:11:00] | fryfrog: | on myth |
| [14:11:00] | fryfrog: | i don't watch any live tv |
| [14:12:00] | fryfrog: | i just let it record, then come in about 20min later and watch it "almost live" and skip all the commericals :) |
| [14:12:00] | fryfrog: | http://fryfrog.com/gallery/DespairLinux |
| [14:12:00] | fryfrog: | just in case anyone hasn't seen those and needs a good laugh |
| [14:15:00] | fryfrog: | join #gentoo |
| [14:15:00] | fryfrog: | oops |
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| [14:23:00] | GeckoFiend: | fryfrog you're army? |
| [14:24:00] | fryfrog: | i am? |
| [14:24:00] | fryfrog: | no sir |
| [14:24:00] | kernoman: | I is back! |
| [14:24:00] | fryfrog: | what made you think that? |
| [14:25:00] | GeckoFiend: | saw shots in your gallery. Thought they were of you |
| [14:25:00] | kernoman: | do you guys use your xbox as a frontend to myth? |
| [14:25:00] | laga: | i wish i had an xbox ;)O |
| [14:26:00] | GeckoFiend: | kernoman I bought an xbox to mod for that purpose but never got around to it |
| [14:27:00] | kernoman: | Ive got gentoox on mine but I have not tried myth on it, takes so long to boot up and runs like a dawg due to the lack of memory... |
| [14:27:00] | fryfrog: | kernoman: not yet, but i want to |
| [14:27:00] | fryfrog: | GeckoFiend: ah, my dad is a military groupie :) |
| [14:27:00] | fryfrog: | thats prolly what gave you the idea |
| [14:27:00] | fryfrog: | does anyone know any FreeBSD stereo types? |
| [14:27:00] | rinc: | kernoman: i do |
| [14:28:00] | rinc: | although i just upgraded to 0.18 and im having issues |
| [14:28:00] | kernoman: | find it slow? |
| [14:29:00] | rinc: | no works great |
| [14:29:00] | rinc: | not for hd but my tv isnt hd anyway |
| [14:29:00] | kernoman: | even playing back recordings/videos with such little memory |
| [14:30:00] | kernoman: | on another note, can I set transcode to just chop out commercials from an mpeg stream and leave it as mpeg? |
| [14:30:00] | fryfrog: | kernoman: i swear there was some way, but fuck if i remember :/ |
| [14:30:00] | fryfrog: | i just use the cut list and press the z key while i'm watching |
| [14:30:00] | laga: | nuvexport, mpeg2->mpeg2. |
| [14:31:00] | fryfrog: | cause the commerical flag list isn't 100% accurate about 99.9% of the time :) |
| [14:31:00] | fryfrog: | laga: that only works if you don't need it to stay in the myth menu |
| [14:31:00] | laga: | fryfrog: well, i wonder if he fiddle with nuv2disc then. but that approach would be too hackish, imho |
| [14:33:00] | kernoman: | yeah ive not found the commercial flagging to be very accurate also, im not to bothered its just that i record cartoons for my kids and some they like to watch over and over so i wanted to remove the commercials |
| [14:35:00] | laga: | heh |
| [14:36:00] | laga: | i think it's funny that the male, adult population tinkers with mythtv while the rest uses it ;) |
| [14:37:00] | rinc: | women... cant program a vcr... cant configure mythtv |
| [14:37:00] | kernoman: | :) |
| [14:37:00] | laga: | heh |
| [14:37:00] | kernoman: | if it wasnt for tinkers we wouldnt have myth :) |
| [14:38:00] | fryfrog: | kernoman: ahhh, that makes sense |
| [14:38:00] | fryfrog: | can you try to create a transcode profile? |
| [14:39:00] | fryfrog: | and just make it from mpeg2, to mpeg2? |
| [14:39:00] | fryfrog: | i'm not in front of my mythbox now, so i'm not sure if this is actually possible |
| [14:39:00] | brejc8: | GeckoFiend: I would like to restructure the showDetails window into something more interactive. Currently the all details are placed into a single text DialogBox which often runs over the bottom of the page. I was thinking making it look more like Watch recordings menu where you can select the details which appear in the bottom box which would be scrollable. This would allow other things to be added like viewing and writing recommendations. Do you think |
| [14:39:00] | kernoman: | ill take a look in a min good idea though |
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| [14:42:00] | adante: | what mame emulator do you guys use? |
| [14:42:00] | stoffel: | none ;) |
| [14:43:00] | brejc8: | xmame |
| [14:44:00] | adante: | have you tried advancemame at all? |
| [14:44:00] | brejc8: | I use advance tools but not advancemame |
| [14:45:00] | brejc8: | Advancemame is just normal xmame with drivers for the 15KHz monitors right? |
| [14:45:00] | adante: | i have.. no idea |
| [14:46:00] | GeckoFiend: | brejc8 Yeah something like a top pane with basic info, a middle pane that changes based on the list selection and a list to select which details to view? |
| [14:46:00] | brejc8: | GeckoFiend:Yeah |
| [14:47:00] | brejc8: | GeckoFiend:Left pain to select between: Guide details, Recommendations, Own recommendation |
| [14:47:00] | GeckoFiend: | yeah, hurry up and write it. we'll need it for MythUI and I can steal it to stick in MythMovieTime for the movie details screen |
| [14:48:00] | brejc8: | GeckoFiend: Guide details: Description, Details, Actors Recommendations: (list of recommendations) .... |
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| [14:49:00] | brejc8: | I was just gonna strip the Watch recordings system and redo the details |
| [14:50:00] | Esotericisms: | I think Myth needs a "watched/unwatched" feature for all the recordings |
| [14:50:00] | Esotericisms: | so they show up a different color in the media library |
| [14:51:00] | brejc8: | That is what I was thinking but with users too. So you can see if the Mrs has seen something and it is ok to delete it |
| [14:52:00] | Esotericisms: | that works too ... not sure how you would do the whole users thing though |
| [14:52:00] | GeckoFiend: | Esotericisms it's been discussed but some of the other devs poo pooed it. But yeah I agree. Such a feature willl be in before too long though. |
| [14:52:00] | fryfrog: | i just say "hey, hun have you seen this?" |
| [14:52:00] | fryfrog: | gives me a good excuse to speak with her :) |
| [14:52:00] | GeckoFiend: | fryfrog haveing a watched flag makes it easier to train recommendation egines |
| [14:53:00] | fryfrog: | come on, that was obviously a joke ;p |
| [14:53:00] | GeckoFiend: | heh I know |
| [14:53:00] | fryfrog: | i think simple users would be a good idea |
| [14:53:00] | fryfrog: | woudln't really even need passwords |
| [14:53:00] | fryfrog: | or, if you did they could just be numbers |
| [14:53:00] | fryfrog: | it'd be cool to be able to tailor things, like maybe a favorite shows and/or theme |
| [14:54:00] | fryfrog: | er, own theme |
| [14:55:00] | Esotericisms: | join #winmyth |
| [14:55:00] | Esotericisms: | doh! |
| [14:55:00] | Esotericisms: | guess that isn't a channel |
| [14:55:00] | fryfrog: | perhaps to "encourage" user switching, myth could automatically log out after like 30min of in-activity |
| [14:57:00] | Esotericisms: | does winmyth have a irc channel? |
| [14:57:00] | GeckoFiend: | and each user could have their own portrait on the login screen... |
| [14:58:00] | brejc8: | But that would mean logging in and out |
| [14:58:00] | brejc8: | Easier to just select "seen it" and then pick who you are |
| [14:59:00] | brejc8: | With a nice icon of you though |
| [14:59:00] | fryfrog: | that'd work too |
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| [15:00:00] | fryfrog: | maybe you could create some feature where you can switch between users w/o logging the other user out... maybe we could call it "quick user switching" |
| [15:00:00] | braniff: | kde has that by default |
| [15:01:00] | fryfrog: | that was a joke, you came in mid-conversation :) |
| [15:01:00] | ** braniff likes to jump in the middle of conversations :) ** | |
| [15:01:00] | fryfrog: | i see! |
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| [15:03:00] | Technicium: | Hey i have tryed searching the website for the answer to this but am unable to find anything, im up to installing the dvico driver and everything goes ok but when i compile it, it errors can anybody help me |
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| [15:10:00] | Esotericisms: | hrm ... anyone familiar with winmyth? |
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| [15:13:00] | fryfrog: | dvico driver? |
| [15:14:00] | Technicium: | can anybody tell me when i compile why do i get these error messages at the bottem |
| [15:14:00] | Technicium: | create symbolic link `saa7146_vbi.c' to `../linux/drivers/media/common/saa7146_vbi.c' |
| [15:14:00] | Technicium: | create symbolic link `saa7146_vv_ksyms.c' to `../linux/drivers/media/common/saa7146_vv_ksyms.c' |
| [15:14:00] | Technicium: | create symbolic link `saa7146_video.c' to `../linux/drivers/media/common/saa7146_video.c' |
| [15:14:00] | Technicium: | create symbolic link `saa7146_core.c' to `../linux/drivers/media/common/saa7146_core.c' |
| [15:14:00] | Technicium: | create symbolic link `saa7146_fops.c' to `../linux/drivers/media/common/saa7146_fops.c' |
| [15:14:00] | Technicium: | create symbolic link `saa7146_i2c.c' to `../linux/drivers/media/common/saa7146_i2c.c' |
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| [15:15:00] | dopester: | technicium: turn off the saa7100 support |
| [15:15:00] | dopester: | well when he gets back someone paste that to him |
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| [15:18:00] | briand: | good [insert appropriate time of day here], folks. (here, it's morning) |
| [15:18:00] | stoffel: | dopester > technicium: turn off the saa7100 support |
| [15:20:00] | Technicium: | sorry im a lil new to linux what is saa7100 |
| [15:21:00] | dopester: | in your kernel |
| [15:21:00] | dopester: | under dvb cards |
| [15:21:00] | dopester: | that crap is always broken |
| [15:21:00] | Technicium: | how do i get into my kernel to turn it off |
| [15:21:00] | Technicium: | most of the stuff i have been reading doesnt tell you stuff like this |
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| [15:32:00] | cygdev: | make xconfig |
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| [15:37:00] | Technicium: | what does make xconfig do and then dont you have to recompile your kernel which is quite difficult |
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| [15:45:00] | laga: | Technicium: you'd have to recompile your kernel. |
| [15:51:00] | Techno: | ok cool |
| [15:52:00] | Techno: | so how do i remove saa from the kernel is it fairly easy as im not to good with linux |
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| [15:52:00] | laga: | you'd have to recompile your kernel. try google, i bet there are a lot ofn howtos |
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| [15:52:00] | Techno: | cool |
| [15:53:00] | Techno: | thanks for the help |
| [15:53:00] | mortal5: | hey guys, could anyone look at some error output from my myth compile? |
| [15:53:00] | mortal5: | in #flood |
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| [15:54:00] | mortal5: | this is just a snip of the error : [libmythavcodec-0.18.1.so.0.18.1] |
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| [16:09:00] | cygdev: | make xconfig |
| [16:09:00] | cygdev: | make |
| [16:09:00] | cygdev: | make modules_install |
| [16:09:00] | cygdev: | make install |
| [16:09:00] | cygdev: | the last two as root or sudo |
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| [16:11:00] | GeckoFiend: | mortal5 use pastebin for crying out loud. |
| [16:20:00] | ** braniff waits patiently for fedora core 4 to fix his problems ** | |
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| [16:32:00] | mortal5: | ok now i have a new problem |
| [16:32:00] | mortal5: | my myth database isn't configured, or something |
| [16:33:00] | brejc8: | Did you set up your mysql database? |
| [16:33:00] | mortal5: | I have it running |
| [16:34:00] | brejc8: | Did you feed it the initialization file? |
| [16:34:00] | mortal5: | ? |
| [16:34:00] | mortal5: | how do i do that? |
| [16:35:00] | brejc8: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html |
| [16:35:00] | brejc8: | mysql < /usr/share/mythtv/database/mc.sql |
| [16:40:00] | mortal5: | no such file or directory |
| [16:42:00] | braniff: | mortal5, what distro ? |
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| [16:44:00] | mortal5: | braniff: slackware :^/ |
| [16:44:00] | braniff: | anyway, "slocate mc.sql" |
| [16:46:00] | mortal5: | i found it ...now '@localhost' to database 'mythconverg' |
| [16:46:00] | mortal5: | wait |
| [16:46:00] | mortal5: | ERROR 1044 at line 1: Access denied for user: '@localhost' to database 'mythconverg' |
| [16:46:00] | mortal5: | bullmess |
| [16:47:00] | opello: | mysql -u root -p < /path/to/sql |
| [16:47:00] | braniff: | mysql -u root < mc.sql |
| [16:49:00] | mortal5: | k |
| [16:53:00] | mortal5: | ok it did it |
| [16:53:00] | mortal5: | now i just have to run the backend |
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| [16:58:00] | mortal5: | No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP. |
| [17:01:00] | mortal5: | where do i set a backserver ip? |
| [17:04:00] | opello: | mythsetup iirc |
| [17:05:00] | GeckoFiend: | mortal5 mythtv-setup |
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| [17:07:00] | Keithamus: | hi all. |
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| [17:08:00] | Keithamus: | i have come here for some advice, if someone is willing to give it. |
| [17:08:00] | briand: | heh |
| [17:08:00] | briand: | "stop now. do not go any further. avoid pulling hair out, etc." |
| [17:09:00] | Keithamus: | LOL |
| [17:09:00] | briand: | plant a garden |
| [17:09:00] | briand: | perhaps some nice flowers. |
| [17:09:00] | Keithamus: | haha |
| [17:09:00] | mortal5: | GeckoFiend: heh, yeah, but now it says that I can't connect to the server |
| [17:09:00] | Keithamus: | I wasnt looking for that kind of advice o_O |
| [17:09:00] | briand: | okay, tell us how you'd like to abuse yourself. |
| [17:09:00] | mortal5: | screw it, I'm off to play some et |
| [17:10:00] | mortal5: | I'll eventually do a full reinstall from the ground up just so i can get all this crap straight |
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| [17:10:00] | Keithamus: | Basically, I have a spare PC (AMD 2500, GForce5500 512mb RAM 80gbHDD) that I was hoping to turn into a mythtv box... Obviously I need a TV card, and to find out what the hell I would do, (UK, using Tellewest cable service) to connect my cable to it. |
| [17:10:00] | ** briand is on hour # 154 (no, i'm *not* exaggerating, and yes, I _am_ keeping track!) of trying to get ivtv to produce some sort of reasonable output on his pvr-350. ** | |
| [17:11:00] | Keithamus: | I also wanna know if anyone else has a similar setup, and what are the loads using a framegrabber or a hardware decoder card. |
| [17:11:00] | Keithamus: | LOL |
| [17:11:00] | briand: | you'll want to buy a bigger hard drive. |
| [17:11:00] | Keithamus: | really? |
| [17:11:00] | briand: | yes, really. |
| [17:11:00] | Keithamus: | what if I slam another 30gb in there? |
| [17:11:00] | briand: | what if you slam another 300gb in there? ;) |
| [17:11:00] | Keithamus: | LOL |
| [17:11:00] | Quan: | Keithamus: I've got a P4 3GHZ with a cheap framegrabber card, load is usually below 10% :) |
| [17:11:00] | Keithamus: | erm |
| [17:12:00] | Keithamus: | Quan, thanks for that, I figured it wouldnt be too bad, but I didnt wanna waste money ;) |
| [17:12:00] | Quan: | Keithamus: load only jumps up if you're transcoding or something |
| [17:12:00] | Keithamus: | umm, sorry, you've lost me with transcoding. /me == video n00b. |
| [17:12:00] | Quan: | Keithamus: if you just want to play around get a cheap $30–40 bttv card first |
| [17:12:00] | Keithamus: | ok wkd. |
| [17:13:00] | Keithamus: | cheerd Quan |
| [17:13:00] | briand: | lets say you put the OS on the 30g drive, and used the 80g drive exclusively for video. You could only store a few hours of video there. |
| [17:13:00] | Keithamus: | hmm |
| [17:13:00] | braniff: | holy jesus!! hour 154 ?? |
| [17:13:00] | Quan: | briand: depends on the quality |
| [17:13:00] | briand: | well, true, Quan. |
| [17:13:00] | briand: | braniff: yes. |
| [17:13:00] | braniff: | and i thought i was bad at hour 15 ! heh |
| [17:14:00] | Keithamus: | I wouldnt want major quality, I wanna hook it up to a TV tv, not a monitor, so low res 480x320, prolly xvid or divx if I can get away with it. |
| [17:14:00] | Quan: | I get about 1 hour / GB |
| [17:14:00] | Keithamus: | hmm |
| [17:14:00] | briand: | braniff: ivtv loads, without errors or other untoward output in /var/log/messages, and yet the video out shows crap. |
| [17:14:00] | Keithamus: | seems reasonable. |
| [17:14:00] | Quan: | at 320x240 |
| [17:14:00] | Keithamus: | sounds good enough for me ;) |
| [17:15:00] | Quan: | example – 1 hr 33 mins = 1.2 GB |
| [17:15:00] | Keithamus: | Yea, I could be happy with that. |
| [17:15:00] | braniff: | briand, what distro? |
| [17:15:00] | briand: | braniff: i have been through all the various ivtv-related steps on Fedora Myth(TV)ology::HOWTO (started working through that on last Tuesday) |
| [17:15:00] | Keithamus: | Is it near tv or above tv quality? |
| [17:15:00] | briand: | braniff: Fedora Core 3, latest errata kernel |
| [17:15:00] | braniff: | oh fedora yeah i'm about to give up on fedora 3 |
| [17:16:00] | Quan: | Keithamus: I'd say near, a little lower |
| [17:16:00] | braniff: | fedora 4 comes out next Monday |
| [17:16:00] | Keithamus: | Im not fully erm... learned about the ins and outs of this whole thing, basically getting my feet wet. |
| [17:16:00] | Keithamus: | Oh cool. |
| [17:16:00] | Keithamus: | erm, I found this card: http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index . . . ct_uid=51198 |
| [17:16:00] | briand: | braniff: I've also been through the IVTV TikiWiki, which allows me to see a few warnings from modprobe about ignoring some lines, but otherwise produces identical crap output on the tv-out. |
| [17:16:00] | Keithamus: | you think it is any good Quan? |
| [17:16:00] | braniff: | also i'm downloading knoppmyth to see if that will work |
| [17:16:00] | Keithamus: | for my situation I mean. |
| [17:16:00] | Quan: | Keithamus: oh yeah |
| [17:16:00] | Keithamus: | Cool. |
| [17:17:00] | Quan: | Keithamus: I think that's a good system for myth, you can always add more hd space if you find you need it :) |
| [17:17:00] | Keithamus: | Yea true. |
| [17:17:00] | briand: | Keithamus: careful about the "getting your feet wet" bit.. there is no shallow end to this pool. ;) |
| [17:17:00] | Keithamus: | More, when and if I ever get the money lol |
| [17:17:00] | Keithamus: | haha |
| [17:17:00] | Quan: | I started cheap, just threw a wintv framegrabber in my main server |
| [17:18:00] | Keithamus: | Were you satisfied enough? |
| [17:18:00] | Quan: | though I do plan to get a PVR350 *some day* |
| [17:18:00] | Keithamus: | LOL |
| [17:18:00] | braniff: | i would go with a mainstream capture card definitely — it ain't worth the time to mess with crap |
| [17:18:00] | Keithamus: | whats the sort of price on them? |
| [17:18:00] | briand: | Quan: do it. |
| [17:18:00] | Quan: | Keithamus: it works great for me, though I mostly record cartoons for my kids so the quality doesn't have to be super high |
| [17:18:00] | Keithamus: | yea. |
| [17:18:00] | Keithamus: | Cool |
| [17:19:00] | braniff: | like maybe a pvr 150 at least |
| [17:19:00] | briand: | ...then, maybe, you'll have the same problems with the 350's tv-out as I'm having, and can help me fix mine. |
| [17:19:00] | Keithamus: | I mainly watch cartoons/comedies, so the picture doesnt have to be great. |
| [17:19:00] | Quan: | briand: :P |
| [17:19:00] | Keithamus: | in terms of software, how easy is it? I have heard it can be a real.. annoyance to put it lightly. |
| [17:19:00] | ** Cardoe thinks the pvr-350 is pointless. ** | |
| [17:19:00] | Quan: | Keithamus: depends how you do it, I started using the packages for mandrake, but build it myself now, it's not to bad |
| [17:19:00] | briand: | i suppose i _could_ just skip this part, and move on towards setting up and configuring MythTV and mysql, etc... but, what's the point, if I can't view anything? |
| [17:19:00] | braniff: | i used to install mythtv in about 2–3 hours before fedora core 3 came out |
| [17:20:00] | Keithamus: | Would you recommend one of the pre-done-up distros, like the erm.. Knopmyth or whatever it is called. |
| [17:20:00] | Cardoe: | braniff: cause fc3 is a piece of crap |
| [17:20:00] | braniff: | cardoe, i WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree |
| [17:20:00] | briand: | braniff: what sort of problems are you running into with FC3 ? |
| [17:20:00] | braniff: | my god there are about 3 intractable problems |
| [17:21:00] | briand: | pick one |
| [17:21:00] | braniff: | i think my hardware just isn't supported anymore |
| [17:21:00] | braniff: | nvidia mx440 driver problem |
| [17:21:00] | Cardoe: | blending selinux by default is annoying |
| [17:21:00] | Quan: | Keithamus: do you already have a distro set up? If so see if there aren't already myth packages for it |
| [17:21:00] | braniff: | i use it for tv out |
| [17:21:00] | Keithamus: | Quan, I dont really. |
| [17:22:00] | Keithamus: | The pc is a windows box atm, I just dont use it, and wanna make something useful out of it. |
| [17:22:00] | braniff: | now the driver makes X use 100% of CPU in mythtv |
| [17:22:00] | Quan: | Keithamus: you could try knoppmyth, or if you want a full blown distro I use mandrake erm...mandriva |
| [17:22:00] | Keithamus: | LOL |
| [17:22:00] | Keithamus: | ok |
| [17:22:00] | Cardoe: | or Gentoo |
| [17:22:00] | Keithamus: | ack |
| [17:23:00] | Cardoe: | cause unless you're an idiot... Gentoo's probably the easiest. |
| [17:23:00] | Quan: | gentoo isn't a bad choice for myth because the packages are all in portage |
| [17:23:00] | Quan: | if you can get over the fact that it's gentoo :) |
| [17:23:00] | Cardoe: | and they work |
| [17:23:00] | Cardoe: | ;) |
| [17:23:00] | Keithamus: | I wanna get it done this year tho.. lol |
| [17:23:00] | Cardoe: | please |
| [17:23:00] | braniff: | emerge, baby, emerge heh |
| [17:23:00] | briand: | Keithamus: we all started out that way.. |
| [17:23:00] | Keithamus: | LOL |
| [17:23:00] | ** braniff is downloading knoppmyth right now ** | |
| [17:23:00] | Keithamus: | Also, how the hell does it fetch data for channel listings? I am completely lost on how I would hook it up to my tellewest service. Anyone use telewest? |
| [17:24:00] | briand: | do you have cable internet? |
| [17:24:00] | Keithamus: | yesm |
| [17:24:00] | briand: | put the mythtv box on the net |
| [17:24:00] | briand: | it grabs listings from zap2it |
| [17:24:00] | Cardoe: | I couldn't install MythTV on Fedora Core 3 |
| [17:24:00] | Keithamus: | right. |
| [17:24:00] | Cardoe: | so freaking easy with Gentoo |
| [17:24:00] | Keithamus: | does zap2it have uk listings too? |
| [17:24:00] | Quan: | before you run gentoo read this :) http://funroll-loops.org/ |
| [17:25:00] | briand: | hmm. i dunno. you might need to check out XMLTV |
| [17:25:00] | ** briand is stateside ** | |
| [17:26:00] | briand: | and i'm gonna let my future myth-tv box just sit here and vegetate, while i go watch some real-time television (since I cannot [yet] record it to watch later). |
| [17:26:00] | Keithamus: | LOL |
| [17:26:00] | briand: | ...then, I'll come back and start composing a nice loooooooooooooooooooooooooong message for the ivtv-devel list. |
| [17:27:00] | briand: | Keithamus: good luck... read up on all you can re: mythtv before you get started. |
| [17:27:00] | Keithamus: | Thanks briand, I will do lol |
| [17:27:00] | Keithamus: | good luck to you too. |
| [17:28:00] | briand: | thanks. :) |
| [17:28:00] | briand: | i bought new hardware, thinking i'd avoid any "weird" problems... |
| [17:28:00] | Keithamus: | LOL |
| [17:29:00] | Keithamus: | lemme guess, you were wrong to think that? |
| [17:29:00] | briand: | Asus Pundit-S, 2.4GHz Celeron D, 512MB Ram, 300G disk, CD/DVD read/write drive, and a PVR-350. |
| [17:29:00] | briand: | so far, everything has gone very smoothly |
| [17:29:00] | Keithamus: | oh nice.. |
| [17:29:00] | briand: | up until i try to get the PVR-350 to show me something reasonable on the composite tv-out |
| [17:29:00] | Cardoe: | Quan: please such an old retarded site. |
| [17:30:00] | Cardoe: | 350... waste.. |
| [17:30:00] | briand: | and the tv-out on the pundit (from on-board video) isn't working right, either.. but it's closer than the 350's. |
| [17:30:00] | Cardoe: | use a POS nvidia |
| [17:30:00] | Cardoe: | or just configure the pundit to work |
| [17:30:00] | Cardoe: | 350 sucks |
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| [17:30:00] | Cardoe: | it'll only show the recorded stuff |
| [17:30:00] | Cardoe: | very well |
| [17:30:00] | Cardoe: | but nothing else |
| [17:30:00] | Cardoe: | wanna watch some DivX movies? |
| [17:30:00] | Cardoe: | nope... |
| [17:31:00] | briand: | well, anyway.. that show i wanted to watch is on. bbl |
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| [17:36:00] | rtsai: | briand: i actually did TV *last* on my system (e.g., got mythvideo, mythmusic to all work first before tackling TV) |
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| [18:10:00] | rjune: | I setup mythtv on a fedora 3 box. I'm attampting to rip a CD, output clains that the cdrom device is unavailable. I've not found where to set the cdrom device. can n somebody point me in the right direction? |
| [18:10:00] | djpere_gentoo: | a vcd ? |
| [18:11:00] | rjune: | no, regular cd |
| [18:11:00] | rjune: | i found it |
| [18:12:00] | laga: | hi rjune ;) |
| [18:12:00] | rjune: | laga: sup |
| [18:12:00] | rjune: | laga: you tried to play a DVD and use the RCA jack as the output? |
| [18:12:00] | laga: | not much. setting up a new server here, and with you? |
| [18:12:00] | laga: | rjune: nope, i dont do DVDs on my mythtv machine yet |
| [18:13:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [18:13:00] | mirak: | SIP listening on IP Address 192.168.1.1:5060 NAT address 192.168.1.1 |
| [18:13:00] | mirak: | SIP: Cannot register; proxy, username or password not set |
| [18:13:00] | mirak: | Segmentation fault |
| [18:13:00] | mirak: | I got this after installing various pluggins of mythtv |
| [18:13:00] | laga: | mirak: uninstall mythphone |
| [18:14:00] | mirak: | ok, it was the first thing I wa going to do :) |
| [18:14:00] | laga: | :) |
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| [18:15:00] | emes: | has anyone been able to play a standalone nuv file on os x? |
| [18:15:00] | mirak: | is it possible to use other codec to record video ? |
| [18:15:00] | mirak: | emes: I can't on linux |
| [18:15:00] | mirak: | I don't know how to |
| [18:17:00] | XAD|onoff: | sorry if this is documented somewhere (tried search without luck)... can I config MythTV to not use ringbuffer during non-timeshifted use?? |
| [18:20:00] | mirak: | I have a problem |
| [18:20:00] | mirak: | I deleted a pending recording from the medialibrary menu |
| [18:20:00] | mirak: | but it's still recording in background |
| [18:20:00] | mirak: | and I can't stop the recording |
| [18:21:00] | mirak: | the delete recording menu doesn't list this pending recording |
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| [18:21:00] | mirak: | however the upcmoing menu, shows it, but the stop action doesn't stop it |
| [18:24:00] | XAD|onoff: | mirak have you tried to select it in the record program menu and then stop?? |
| [18:24:00] | lespiggo1: | hi, I'm thinking of upgrading my mythtv system by adding either a Hauppage PVR 150 or 250. Can anyone give me any indication on which card is better to use/work with? thanks |
| [18:25:00] | mirak: | XAD|onoff: record menu ? |
| [18:26:00] | mirak: | I tried from delete record menu |
| [18:26:00] | braniff: | well i was thinking of getting a 150 myself |
| [18:26:00] | XAD|onoff: | "Schedule Recordings"... |
| [18:27:00] | mirak: | me too |
| [18:27:00] | XAD|onoff: | mirak, why not PVR-500 if you are OK with 150 (both are in the development branch) ;-) |
| [18:28:00] | mirak: | they still don't release the specs ? |
| [18:29:00] | XAD|onoff: | PVR-500 (and 150 I think) are supporting YUV 4:2:2 which the older cards are not (but ivtv might not support it yet)... |
| [18:29:00] | laga: | what's the advantage of YUV 4:2:2? |
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| [18:30:00] | XAD|onoff: | better picture quality... (if it's used, I still only get YUV 4:2:0 in my MythTV installation :-( ) |
| [18:31:00] | laga: | heh |
| [18:31:00] | laga: | BTW, there is no way to turn off the buffering in livetv. |
| [18:32:00] | XAD|onoff: | laga... that's my question, just a couple of lines above!! ;-) ... |
| [18:32:00] | XAD|onoff: | ohh,... it's the answer... (darn me)... |
| [18:33:00] | laga: | hehe. |
| [18:34:00] | laga: | XAD|onoff: you can edit the mainmenu.xml and add tvtime or xawtv, though. |
| [18:34:00] | XAD|onoff: | anyone knows why they design it that way?? it's pretty bad to use the harddisk while doing regular watching... think most other systems only activate the buffer when pausing... |
| [18:35:00] | XAD|onoff: | laga.... then I would have to switch to the regular menu option when I want to pause, or?? |
| [18:35:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | XAD|onoff: and if they do that, then they don't give you the ability to rewind LiveTV. |
| [18:35:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | TIVO is always recording, even when you're not watching. |
| [18:36:00] | mirak: | I still can't delete the pending recording |
| [18:36:00] | mirak: | it's wierd |
| [18:37:00] | XAD|onoff: | ahh OK (tivo).... that's true but my wife have the TV on all day long and would probably never use rewind... an option would be nice but at least then I can understand why designing it this way (as it is TiVo replacer) |
| [18:37:00] | twisted_one: | Is there a way to have MYTH to continue to buffer live tv while I go back through the menus? |
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| [18:37:00] | twisted_one: | I dont like losing a buffer because I want to check the weather or miss part of the show because of it. |
| [18:37:00] | twisted_one: | Itd be nice to check RSS while commercials are on (and im caught up in the buffer). |
| [18:38:00] | twisted_one: | Im pretty certain TiVo does something like this |
| [18:38:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | Most devs would probably recommend never using LiveTV. if you want to watch something, then record it (even if it is live) and then watch the recording. |
| [18:38:00] | twisted_one: | Bleh, I dont like that solution, it works, but its not the proper one (No offense devs, I love your product) |
| [18:38:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | twisted_one: I think that's because TiVo is constantly recording. |
| [18:39:00] | XAD|onoff: | Murdoch, do you know if there is an arhictecture document/picture of MythTV?? |
| [18:39:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | proper is in the eye of the beholder, aka developer. :) |
| [18:40:00] | twisted_one: | meh, I'd bet even they would admit that it is not the most elegant solution |
| [18:40:00] | XAD|onoff: | I really would like one and would hate to spend time to understand and making one and then find out it alreayd exist... |
| [18:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | XAD|onoff: If one exists I've never seen it mentioned :) |
| [18:40:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | devs usually record things and not watch LiveTV. it's a PVR, it's main purpose is delayed viewing |
| [18:41:00] | XAD|onoff: | Well it's called MythTV, not MythPVR.. ;-) |
| [18:42:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | XAD|onoff: there is a simple diagram someone drew up but I can't remember where it is. it might be on the wiki at www.mythtv.info |
| [18:42:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | that's cause it records TV :p |
| [18:42:00] | mirak: | twisted_one: I agree |
| [18:42:00] | mirak: | twisted_one: I miss that feature |
| [18:42:00] | mirak: | as well as instant recording that I can't make work |
| [18:43:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | can't say how accurate this diagram still is because I haven't looked over the whole page, but here's a link to one. http://wiki.cs.uiuc.edu/cs427/MythTV+Architecture+Overview |
| [18:44:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | I've seen a few others, google for things like "mythtv architecture" and you'll proably find more. |
| [18:45:00] | twisted_one: | uiuc, bastards |
| [18:45:00] | XAD|onoff: | murdoch.... thanks... |
| [18:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | mirak: By instant recording I assume you mean "hit" record while watching livetv and have it save it ? |
| [18:45:00] | mirak: | GreyFoxx: yes |
| [18:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Do you get and error of some sort when you try it ? |
| [18:45:00] | mirak: | GreyFoxx: no, nothing |
| [18:45:00] | mirak: | I don't know what's wrong |
| [18:46:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | the reason that no-one has implemented the ability to kep recording livetv in the background while you do other things, or to watch unbuffered livetv without touching the harddisk is that none of the devs want it bad enough to code it up because they usually record things instead of using LiveTV mode. |
| [18:46:00] | mirak: | by the way where can this be set ? |
| [18:46:00] | twisted_one: | GreyFoxx: Hey! |
| [18:46:00] | mirak: | I men where can we set instant recording properties ? |
| [18:47:00] | XAD|onoff: | btw, I have PVR500 and have added filter to get a much better picture (well noise is bad for compression) but haven't found an option in MythTV... have I missed something (playing filter but recording) |
| [18:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | mirak: All you do is hit R/r when watching livetv. It's been a while since I've used it so I don't remember if there is any special menu or visible indicator that pops up |
| [18:47:00] | twisted_one: | Captain_Murdoch: I understand that completely. Its just an idea to add to the list of possible improvements. I know many devs will want to just improve their project after they add everything they need. |
| [18:47:00] | mirak: | GreyFoxx: I think we discussed about that alreqy |
| [18:47:00] | mirak: | already |
| [18:47:00] | twisted_one: | GreyFoxx: I got the driver working well. I was way over complicating things when I was looking at it and talking to you =P |
| [18:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | certainly possible |
| [18:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [18:48:00] | mirak: | but nothing happens exept showing : record "" |
| [18:48:00] | twisted_one: | GreyFoxx: only thing I cannot get owkring is a the generation of a control&b event |
| [18:48:00] | mirak: | GreyFoxx: does instant recording is dependent of TV programms ? |
| [18:48:00] | mirak: | I mean numeric schedul that a retrieved via internet |
| [18:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | mirak: I'm not sure what you mean by that |
| [18:49:00] | mirak: | I think that it shows "" |
| [18:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | mirak: I've never tried it without guide data |
| [18:49:00] | mirak: | because it doesn't know what it is recording or something |
| [18:49:00] | twisted_one: | GreyFoxx: Somethign I completely forgot to mention... nice nick, I'm a fan =) |
| [18:49:00] | mirak: | GreyFoxx: ok, so maybe that's the problem since I don't use guide data |
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| [18:49:00] | [stu]: | hello, #mythtv-users! |
| [18:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | twisted_one: It's only designed to send single keycodes. So if the CTRL-B is a defined keycode it should do it. Though I've only used it for regular keys |
| [18:49:00] | twisted_one: | Hello =) |
| [18:49:00] | XAD|onoff: | fyi: I have recorded in liveTV without a problem... |
| [18:50:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | mirak, I think it needs guide data since it tries to record the current chanid/starttime that you're watching. |
| [18:50:00] | twisted_one: | GreyFoxx: Its not, I checked /usr/include/linux/input.h and dont see it |
| [18:50:00] | ** GreyFoxx looks and sees that his backend is not running then remembers he turned it off a couple nights ago :) ** | |
| [18:50:00] | twisted_one: | GreyFoxx: is there a conf file for myth so I can change the "jump to beginning of buffer/recording" to something other than control&b |
| [18:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | twisted_one: Then you might be out of luck for a CTRL-B |
| [18:50:00] | [stu]: | I have been wrestling with mythtv on a FC3 box all weekend, I finally got ivtv to recognize my PVR-150, but when I try to Watch TV i'm getting nothing but static |
| [18:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | At least without making code changes :) |
| [18:51:00] | twisted_one: | GreyFoxx: meh, working on a "KIND_CTL" |
| [18:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | twisted_one: Check out the key bindings. Currently configurable under mythweb |
| [18:51:00] | twisted_one: | bah |
| [18:51:00] | twisted_one: | mythweb |
| [18:51:00] | twisted_one: | the bain of my existance |
| [18:51:00] | twisted_one: | thats my next project |
| [18:51:00] | twisted_one: | looks like its my first one now =) |
| [18:51:00] | XAD|onoff: | stu, have you tried to watch video in?? |
| [18:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | I love mythweb. I use it all the time |
| [18:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | I do 99% of my scheduling in it |
| [18:52:00] | twisted_one: | I want to get mythweb running on a different machine than the backend. IE this machine is my webserver and I want to run it here while running the backend on another machine. |
| [18:52:00] | [stu]: | XAD|onoff, no, I haven't been able to verify signal coming in, when I run xawtv, for some reason the monitor reads "no signal" until i reboot the box |
| [18:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | twisted_one: That should be simple |
| [18:53:00] | Mrgoose: | any idea why sometimes on video out the reds show up as green? |
| [18:55:00] | XAD|onoff: | stu, I had some problem and started with ptune and mplayer to make sure ivtv worked ok (first with video and then tuner)... sorry need to go and have dinner... will be back later.... |
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| [18:55:00] | [stu]: | thanks XAD, i'll see if i can try that |
| [18:55:00] | twisted_one: | GreyFoxx: I havent done much with it yet |
| [18:56:00] | twisted_one: | GreyFoxx: im just hoping that I can just an IP in the code, but Im guessign its a bit more involved than that, hopefully not too bad though. |
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| [18:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | no, that's basically exactly what you do |
| [18:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | config/conf.php |
| [18:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | change the info about where the mysql database is |
| [18:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | and it gets the backend ip from the database |
| [18:58:00] | twisted_one: | awesome =) |
| [18:58:00] | twisted_one: | thank you sir. =) |
| [18:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | "hardest part" is to set mysql to accept the connections, and even that is a mysql 1 liners |
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| [18:59:00] | twisted_one: | yeah, I have done that already |
| [18:59:00] | twisted_one: | allowing from 90.0.0.* IIRC |
| [18:59:00] | [stu]: | anyone have mythtv running with a PVR-150 as the capture card? I'd love to have a look at a known good modules.conf for this card |
| [19:00:00] | twisted_one: | yes |
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| [19:04:00] | laga: | is it possible to have one host run mtd and rip DVDs on all frontends, so that the transcoding takes place on the machine with the mtd? |
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| [19:07:00] | Bachus9000: | Does anyone have experience using nuvexport to convert recordings to xvid? |
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| [19:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | man, you know it' a sad sad day when I use one of my daughters spoons to eat because I don't want to empty the dishwasher |
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| [19:19:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: that's lazy |
| [19:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [19:20:00] | rjune: | you know the internals of myth ok, right? |
| [19:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | well enough for myuses. anything I need to know is in the source :) |
| [19:23:00] | rjune: | heh |
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| [19:26:00] | twisted_one: | GreyFoxx: thats not lazy, thats efficient =P |
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| [19:31:00] | brush: | i've got a question (couldn't find the answer at gossamer) |
| [19:31:00] | brush: | i'm running ubuntu and can't find the latest libc6 and libqt3 libs |
| [19:31:00] | brush: | can anybody point me to the depended libs for myth18.1 |
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| [19:35:00] | JonK: | for the runtime? or for compiling? |
| [19:38:00] | brush: | nevermind, thanks though, i figured it out |
| [19:38:00] | brush: | the ubuntu repos don't have the latest libs (compared to sid) |
| [19:38:00] | JonK: | I'm running on ubuntu, so I'm curious as to the answer |
| [19:39:00] | brush: | JonK, what are you curious about? |
| [19:39:00] | JonK: | the ubunntu repos |
| [19:39:00] | twisted_one: | GreyFoxx: you still here? |
| [19:39:00] | JonK: | and what was misisng |
| [19:39:00] | brush: | mythtv 18.1 needed libc6 and libqt3 libs |
| [19:40:00] | brush: | and ubuntu didn't have new enough libs (as per mythtv) |
| [19:40:00] | brush: | am i making any sense? |
| [19:40:00] | Bogus8: | is there any free radio station controll room automation software for linux out there? |
| [19:40:00] | Bogus8: | OT but getting desparate |
| [19:40:00] | JonK: | I think, but I've compiled from cvs on ubunutu without issue |
| [19:40:00] | JonK: | hoary? |
| [19:40:00] | brush: | hoary, yes |
| [19:41:00] | brush: | maybe that's it, i didnt' try cvs |
| [19:41:00] | JonK: | actually i did need to install the xxfree86vm-dev package |
| [19:41:00] | brush: | hmmm |
| [19:42:00] | JonK: | took over a bleedin' half hour |
| [19:42:00] | brush: | yeah, we'll see how long this takes me |
| [19:43:00] | JonK: | and I have a question about running 18.1 without distrubing my existing, running .16 installation... |
| [19:43:00] | JonK: | is this possible? |
| [19:43:00] | twisted_one: | anyone know how to allow access to the mythdb from all machiens on the lan |
| [19:43:00] | JonK: | see the myth.org how to |
| [19:43:00] | brush: | JonK, don't know, haven't tried |
| [19:44:00] | JonK: | search for flush privileges |
| [19:44:00] | twisted_one: | I ahve tried this: grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"192.168.1.%" identified by "mythtv"; |
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| [19:44:00] | twisted_one: | but I think the local machine is beeing seen as 127.0.0.1 |
| [19:44:00] | twisted_one: | so it is denied accesss |
| [19:44:00] | JonK: | of course it is |
| [19:44:00] | JonK: | have you set mysql to allow remote connections in the mysql.conf file? |
| [19:44:00] | twisted_one: | dont htink so =P |
| [19:45:00] | twisted_one: | ill check the guide =) |
| [19:45:00] | twisted_one: | RTFM first, I apologize |
| [19:45:00] | JonK: | if there is the line bind=127.0.0.1 in /etc/mysql/mysql.conf comment this out |
| [19:45:00] | twisted_one: | I was following the gentoo wiki, but I should always check the offical docs |
| [19:45:00] | twisted_one: | JonK: ah, yes, I think I might have done that, dont know though. |
| [19:45:00] | JonK: | not a myth issue, maybe a mysql ocnfig issue |
| [19:46:00] | JonK: | and the line above you had 192.168.1.% |
| [19:46:00] | JonK: | are you sure it shouldnt be 192.168.0.%? |
| [19:46:00] | JonK: | are you running a local network on the 192.168.0.* address? |
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| [19:49:00] | twisted_one: | JonK: well its acutally 90.0.0.* |
| [19:49:00] | twisted_one: | and yes, I used 90.0.0.% in the code =P |
| [19:49:00] | JonK: | as long as you're using the right address for your interal network |
| [19:50:00] | JonK: | iare you familiar with nmap? |
| [19:50:00] | twisted_one: | yes |
| [19:50:00] | twisted_one: | well, not the advanced stuff |
| [19:50:00] | twisted_one: | but I have used it |
| [19:50:00] | JonK: | run it against both the localhost and the ip address for eth0 |
| [19:50:00] | JonK: | nmap localhost |
| [19:50:00] | JonK: | nmap 90.0.0.0.3 |
| [19:50:00] | twisted_one: | on the myth box I assume |
| [19:51:00] | JonK: | and see if mysql is showing up on both |
| [19:51:00] | JonK: | yes |
| [19:51:00] | twisted_one: | mysql should show up on localhost? |
| [19:51:00] | twisted_one: | err nm |
| [19:51:00] | twisted_one: | yeah |
| [19:51:00] | JonK: | should on both |
| [19:51:00] | JonK: | localhost == 127.0.0.1 |
| [19:51:00] | JonK: | it's the local loopback interface |
| [19:51:00] | twisted_one: | yeah |
| [19:51:00] | twisted_one: | its that in /etc/hosts.conf |
| [19:51:00] | JonK: | if mysql is bound to it, you won't even see mysql |
| [19:51:00] | JonK: | when you nmap the eth0 ip address |
| [19:52:00] | twisted_one: | I have the bind line commented out. |
| [19:52:00] | twisted_one: | ok |
| [19:52:00] | twisted_one: | building nmap now |
| [19:52:00] | JonK: | do now or did already? |
| [19:52:00] | twisted_one: | already did |
| [19:52:00] | twisted_one: | many restarts since then too |
| [19:52:00] | JonK: | (was going to make suer you restarted the mysql daemon) |
| [19:52:00] | twisted_one: | yeah, the machine has been rebooted many times |
| [19:52:00] | JonK: | then this probably isn't the problem, but lets verify that mysql is visible |
| [19:53:00] | JonK: | and i assume you also executed the "flush privileges" command |
| [19:53:00] | twisted_one: | grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"90.0.0.%" identified by "mythtv"; |
| [19:53:00] | twisted_one: | yes, I did |
| [19:54:00] | twisted_one: | thats just to verify,I just reset the perms |
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| [19:55:00] | twisted_one: | hrmm, that seems to have worked |
| [19:55:00] | twisted_one: | maybe a typo or something before |
| [19:55:00] | twisted_one: | well, let me try firing up mythfrontend here |
| [19:55:00] | JonK: | it was afraid i would have given it the beat down |
| [19:56:00] | JonK: | if it failed to comply |
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| [19:56:00] | twisted_one: | lol |
| [19:56:00] | twisted_one: | I dont know why it didnt work before |
| [19:56:00] | twisted_one: | but yeah =) |
| [19:57:00] | twisted_one: | hrmm, mythsetup is not isntalled wiht mythfrontend on gentoo |
| [19:57:00] | twisted_one: | bah |
| [19:57:00] | twisted_one: | how can I configure what IP mythfrontend tries |
| [19:57:00] | JonK: | mythtv-setup |
| [19:57:00] | JonK: | ran as mythtv |
| [19:58:00] | twisted_one: | ah |
| [19:58:00] | twisted_one: | command not found =\ |
| [19:59:00] | JonK: | are you sure mythtv-setup, not myth-setup |
| [19:59:00] | twisted_one: | yeah, I tried both actually |
| [20:00:00] | JonK: | with the "-" |
| [20:00:00] | twisted_one: | mmschnei@carbon mmschnei $ myth-setup |
| [20:00:00] | twisted_one: | -bash: myth-setup: command not found |
| [20:00:00] | twisted_one: | mmschnei@carbon mmschnei $ mythtv-setup |
| [20:00:00] | twisted_one: | -bash: mythtv-setup: command not found |
| [20:00:00] | JonK: | hmm.... |
| [20:00:00] | JonK: | what happens when you run the frontend? |
| [20:00:00] | twisted_one: | mmschnei@carbon mmschnei $ mythfrontend |
| [20:00:00] | twisted_one: | Unable to connect to database! |
| [20:00:00] | twisted_one: | Driver error was [1/1045]: |
| [20:00:00] | twisted_one: | QMYSQL3: Unable to connect |
| [20:00:00] | twisted_one: | Database error was: |
| [20:00:00] | JonK: | maybe emerge it? |
| [20:00:00] | twisted_one: | Access denied for user: 'mythtv@carbon' (Using password: YES) |
| [20:00:00] | twisted_one: | couldn't open db |
| [20:00:00] | JonK: | that's still a databas error, not mythgrontend |
| [20:01:00] | twisted_one: | its it hitting 90.0.0.202 and not localhost> |
| [20:01:00] | twisted_one: | ? |
| [20:01:00] | JonK: | from a shell try: |
| [20:01:00] | JonK: | mysql --host [mythbackend ip] mythconverg -u mythtv -p |
| [20:02:00] | twisted_one: | ok |
| [20:02:00] | JonK: | did it let you in? |
| [20:02:00] | twisted_one: | no |
| [20:02:00] | twisted_one: | ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'mythtv@carbon' (Using password: YES) |
| [20:02:00] | twisted_one: | oh wait |
| [20:02:00] | twisted_one: | wrong pw |
| [20:02:00] | twisted_one: | yes |
| [20:03:00] | JonK: | ok... so we know it's visible, but mythfrontend is not hitting |
| [20:03:00] | JonK: | try /usr/share/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [20:04:00] | JonK: | see if it has localhost |
| [20:04:00] | twisted_one: | ok |
| [20:04:00] | JonK: | cd /myth |
| [20:04:00] | twisted_one: | DBHostName=90.0.0.202 |
| [20:04:00] | JonK: | err... |
| [20:04:00] | JonK: | wrong place |
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| [20:04:00] | twisted_one: | ok |
| [20:04:00] | JonK: | is that correct? |
| [20:04:00] | twisted_one: | thats the ip of the myth machine though |
| [20:04:00] | twisted_one: | yes |
| [20:04:00] | twisted_one: | no the localhost |
| [20:04:00] | twisted_one: | not* |
| [20:05:00] | JonK: | are you running the frontend as mythtv? |
| [20:05:00] | JonK: | (you don't have to, just need to know what user) |
| [20:06:00] | twisted_one: | yeah |
| [20:06:00] | twisted_one: | oh |
| [20:06:00] | twisted_one: | wait |
| [20:06:00] | twisted_one: | no |
| [20:06:00] | twisted_one: | root |
| [20:06:00] | twisted_one: | or mmschnei |
| [20:06:00] | twisted_one: | either one |
| [20:06:00] | JonK: | look for /home/mythtv/.mythv/.mysql.txt |
| [20:06:00] | JonK: | err.. / |
| [20:06:00] | twisted_one: | where |
| [20:06:00] | twisted_one: | ? |
| [20:06:00] | twisted_one: | ~/...? |
| [20:06:00] | JonK: | not a command, for the file |
| [20:06:00] | twisted_one: | yeah |
| [20:07:00] | JonK: | does it exist? |
| [20:07:00] | twisted_one: | I have a ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [20:07:00] | twisted_one: | yes |
| [20:07:00] | twisted_one: | for mmschnei |
| [20:07:00] | JonK: | open it |
| [20:07:00] | twisted_one: | ok =) |
| [20:07:00] | JonK: | see if it has loclhost |
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| [20:07:00] | twisted_one: | yep =P |
| [20:07:00] | JonK: | i bet that's it |
| [20:07:00] | twisted_one: | most likely |
| [20:07:00] | twisted_one: | testing now |
| [20:07:00] | twisted_one: | yep =) |
| [20:08:00] | twisted_one: | thank you very much sir =) |
| [20:08:00] | JonK: | score for me! I helped! |
| [20:08:00] | twisted_one: | bah |
| [20:08:00] | twisted_one: | yes you did |
| [20:08:00] | twisted_one: | its working |
| [20:08:00] | twisted_one: | new issue =P |
| [20:08:00] | JonK: | sweet |
| [20:08:00] | JonK: | ? |
| [20:08:00] | twisted_one: | when I go to watch tv |
| [20:09:00] | twisted_one: | it gives me a mismatch of network protocols or something |
| [20:09:00] | JonK: | ? |
| [20:09:00] | twisted_one: | front end is using "Version 15" and the backend is using 13 |
| [20:09:00] | twisted_one: | err opposite |
| [20:09:00] | twisted_one: | server = 15, frontend = 13 |
| [20:09:00] | twisted_one: | let me check versions |
| [20:09:00] | JonK: | lol -- |
| [20:09:00] | JonK: | LOL |
| [20:09:00] | twisted_one: | ? |
| [20:10:00] | twisted_one: | lol, yeah |
| [20:10:00] | twisted_one: | wow |
| [20:10:00] | twisted_one: | apparntly .18 is marked unstable in gentoo, my front end right now is .16 |
| [20:10:00] | twisted_one: | =P |
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| [20:11:00] | Cardoe: | twisted_one: wrong |
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| [20:11:00] | Cardoe: | 0.18.1 is stable |
| [20:11:00] | twisted_one: | Cardoe: odd |
| [20:12:00] | twisted_one: | Cardoe: emerge -pv mythfrontend |
| [20:12:00] | twisted_one: | maybe just the frontend is marked wrong? |
| [20:12:00] | twisted_one: | or is it in the past 3 days become stable? |
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| [20:14:00] | Cardoe: | twisted_one: mythfrontend is replaced with just mythtv |
| [20:15:00] | Cardoe: | emerge -pv mythtv |
| [20:17:00] | twisted_one: | but mythtv also installs hte backend which I dont need |
| [20:17:00] | Cardoe: | twisted_one: read emerge -pv mythtv |
| [20:17:00] | Cardoe: | READ |
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| [20:17:00] | scuzzy: | hey |
| [20:17:00] | scuzzy: | having some issues with my mythtv setup |
| [20:18:00] | scuzzy: | was wondering if anyone could help |
| [20:18:00] | scuzzy: | I have a PVR250 capture card |
| [20:18:00] | twisted_one: | Cardoe: lol =) |
| [20:18:00] | scuzzy: | it comes with an IR dongle thingie |
| [20:18:00] | JonK: | no, no one can help |
| [20:18:00] | Cardoe: | twisted_one: it's not like mythfrontend has any less deps. |
| [20:18:00] | JonK: | it's hopeless |
| [20:18:00] | scuzzy: | and a remote |
| [20:18:00] | twisted_one: | Cardoe: true |
| [20:18:00] | scuzzy: | now, it works, intermittantly |
| [20:18:00] | JonK: | this is not teh dongle thingie support channel |
| [20:18:00] | scuzzy: | I have to press a key like 5 times sometimes for it to work |
| [20:18:00] | JonK: | LOL |
| [20:18:00] | JonK: | what's it doing? |
| [20:18:00] | JonK: | but it does work? |
| [20:19:00] | scuzzy: | it works |
| [20:19:00] | scuzzy: | but most of the time it misses key presses |
| [20:19:00] | JonK: | stupid question, it will do this if you point the remote at the dongle from a distance of 2–3 feet? |
| [20:19:00] | scuzzy: | and some keys sometimes don't work at all, for like 20 seconds |
| [20:19:00] | scuzzy: | and then they do... |
| [20:19:00] | scuzzy: | any distance |
| [20:19:00] | scuzzy: | I've tried from across the room |
| [20:19:00] | scuzzy: | and right close to the reciever |
| [20:19:00] | JonK: | stupid question: fresh batteries? |
| [20:19:00] | scuzzy: | *nod* |
| [20:19:00] | scuzzy: | fresh batteries |
| [20:20:00] | JonK: | does it do this when running irw? |
| [20:20:00] | XAD|onoff: | hmm, have a problem with separated front and backend... I have the famous pause problems BUT both on recorded and live but almost only after fastforward or pause... and never when viewing on the backend... |
| [20:20:00] | scuzzy: | yes |
| [20:20:00] | scuzzy: | if I press IRW the key presses are intermittant |
| [20:20:00] | scuzzy: | exactly the same |
| [20:20:00] | JonK: | i have no idea |
| [20:20:00] | JonK: | running a 350 and it's never had a problem |
| [20:21:00] | scuzzy: | I used it with my tv remote |
| [20:21:00] | scuzzy: | and the key presses are just as intermittant |
| [20:21:00] | scuzzy: | I wonder if you have the same controll |
| [20:21:00] | scuzzy: | silver one, with red yellow blue and gree buttons around the center set of directional buttons |
| [20:22:00] | scuzzy: | errr, don't know if that identifies it at all |
| [20:22:00] | scuzzy: | It's a pain in the ass, cus generally for the first like 15 seonds, it works fine |
| [20:22:00] | scuzzy: | then it goes all pear shaped |
| [20:23:00] | scuzzy: | I've even tried making my own config with irrecord |
| [20:23:00] | scuzzy: | and it does exactly the same thing |
| [20:23:00] | [stu]: | anyone have any tips or good links on how to reduce the delay when starting live tv or switching channels? right now i've got a 4 second delay between hitting the channel up button and seeing the next channel |
| [20:23:00] | scuzzy: | I am pretty close to just getting a wireless keyboard |
| [20:23:00] | scuzzy: | heh |
| [20:23:00] | rtsai: | just get one |
| [20:23:00] | rtsai: | you can always learn a remote to it later |
| [20:23:00] | scuzzy: | [stu]: I have the same problem |
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| [20:24:00] | JonK: | im going to try to get a firefly remote setup for my frontent |
| [20:24:00] | scuzzy: | rtsai: true |
| [20:24:00] | JonK: | has anyone done this? |
| [20:25:00] | scuzzy: | ok, second problem |
| [20:25:00] | scuzzy: | while I'm watching TV |
| [20:25:00] | scuzzy: | I get a skip every now and again |
| [20:25:00] | scuzzy: | just a split second |
| [20:25:00] | twisted_one: | scuzzy: you cant do anything about the delay |
| [20:25:00] | twisted_one: | scuzzy: CPU = ? |
| [20:25:00] | scuzzy: | and it's NOT because of slow hardware |
| [20:25:00] | scuzzy: | p4 3.2GHZ |
| [20:25:00] | twisted_one: | ok |
| [20:26:00] | scuzzy: | HDD = 32 bit io AND DMA |
| [20:26:00] | twisted_one: | ok |
| [20:26:00] | twisted_one: | and you dont ahve TimeStretch enabled? |
| [20:26:00] | twisted_one: | when it gets caught up in the buffer it blips |
| [20:26:00] | scuzzy: | it's set to 0 by default no? |
| [20:26:00] | twisted_one: | yes |
| [20:26:00] | twisted_one: | well 1.0 |
| [20:26:00] | scuzzy: | well, I havent change it |
| [20:26:00] | twisted_one: | ok |
| [20:26:00] | twisted_one: | just check |
| [20:26:00] | twisted_one: | key is a, iirc |
| [20:26:00] | scuzzy: | no problem |
| [20:26:00] | twisted_one: | ok |
| [20:27:00] | scuzzy: | I've been through a few things, really dont' know what the issue is |
| [20:27:00] | scuzzy: | might it be capture resolution? |
| [20:27:00] | scuzzy: | I've got it set at the higest |
| [20:27:00] | rtsai: | this is watching "live" TV or a recording? |
| [20:27:00] | scuzzy: | live |
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| [20:28:00] | rtsai: | like live live, or "watching a recording" of something that's still recording? |
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| [20:28:00] | scuzzy: | ioctl: VIDIOC_G_FMT |
| [20:28:00] | scuzzy: | Type : Video Capture |
| [20:28:00] | scuzzy: | Width : 480 |
| [20:28:00] | scuzzy: | Height : 480 |
| [20:28:00] | scuzzy: | live live |
| [20:28:00] | scuzzy: | as in, I press watch TV |
| [20:28:00] | rtsai: | haha, yeah i get it |
| [20:28:00] | scuzzy: | and in about 10 mins, I start getting these glitches |
| [20:29:00] | twisted_one: | odd |
| [20:29:00] | twisted_one: | check CPU/RAM with top? |
| [20:29:00] | rtsai: | what is your livetv size set to? maybe you're hitting that limit? |
| [20:29:00] | scuzzy: | they happen few and far between – ish |
| [20:29:00] | scuzzy: | yeah |
| [20:29:00] | scuzzy: | cpu is heavily underutilised |
| [20:29:00] | scuzzy: | it's at 20% max |
| [20:29:00] | scuzzy: | that including X |
| [20:30:00] | twisted_one: | ok |
| [20:30:00] | twisted_one: | odd |
| [20:30:00] | scuzzy: | in fact let me check now |
| [20:30:00] | twisted_one: | must be a buffer issue then |
| [20:30:00] | twisted_one: | you confirmed that timestretch is set to 1.0? |
| [20:31:00] | scuzzy: | Cpu(s): 13.3% us, 4.5% sy, 0.0% ni, 76.0% id, 4.0% wa, 0.2% hi, 2.2% s |
| [20:31:00] | scuzzy: | I'll check now |
| [20:32:00] | scuzzy: | errrr, what key again? |
| [20:32:00] | twisted_one: | a |
| [20:32:00] | twisted_one: | iirc |
| [20:33:00] | scuzzy: | 1x |
| [20:33:00] | twisted_one: | hrmm |
| [20:34:00] | scuzzy: | I think the remote thing annoys me more |
| [20:34:00] | scuzzy: | lol |
| [20:34:00] | scuzzy: | do I have to program in all the channel info myself? |
| [20:34:00] | scuzzy: | cus I get all the content |
| [20:34:00] | scuzzy: | just none of it is assigned channel numbers |
| [20:35:00] | twisted_one: | not in the guide? |
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| [20:35:00] | scuzzy: | it's all in the guid |
| [20:35:00] | scuzzy: | just no channel numbers |
| [20:36:00] | scuzzy: | so when I record stuff |
| [20:36:00] | scuzzy: | it goes Record "" |
| [20:36:00] | scuzzy: | and nothing gets recorded |
| [20:36:00] | twisted_one: | odd |
| [20:36:00] | twisted_one: | dont knwo about that |
| [20:36:00] | scuzzy: | at least I think thats the problem |
| [20:36:00] | twisted_one: | (granted im a n00b) |
| [20:36:00] | scuzzy: | I'm in the uk as well |
| [20:36:00] | scuzzy: | so I use an xml feed |
| [20:36:00] | scuzzy: | which seems to be hacked together in a percarious way |
| [20:37:00] | scuzzy: | don't know if anyone else has this problem, from the uk |
| [20:39:00] | scuzzy: | anyone here from the uk? |
| [20:39:00] | scuzzy: | running mythtv? |
| [20:39:00] | twisted_one: | might want ot check forums online |
| [20:39:00] | twisted_one: | mythtalk i think has one |
| [20:40:00] | scuzzy: | ta |
| [20:42:00] | djpere_gentoo: | How do you get snes9x running in fullscreen? |
| [20:42:00] | djpere_gentoo: | atm it pops up in a tiny window :> |
| [20:42:00] | scuzzy: | man, I can't get bloody xmame running, WHAT a mission |
| [20:42:00] | scuzzy: | it's such a configuration nightmare |
| [20:42:00] | djpere_gentoo: | :> |
| [20:42:00] | scuzzy: | and their own page is VERY vauge about it |
| [20:43:00] | djpere_gentoo: | I just compiled xmame |
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| [20:44:00] | scuzzy: | and? can you get it to work? |
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| [20:45:00] | twisted_one: | djpere_gentoo: man snes9x, its a startup flag iirc |
| [20:45:00] | djpere_gentoo: | I dunno |
| [20:45:00] | twisted_one: | -f maybe? |
| [20:45:00] | djpere_gentoo: | I don't think so |
| [20:45:00] | twisted_one: | how do I know which driver is being used for playback (Xv, XvMC...) |
| [20:45:00] | twisted_one: | ? |
| [20:47:00] | djpere_gentoo: | -f just makes it load a blank screen not even fullscreen |
| [20:47:00] | djpere_gentoo: | man snes9x is borked |
| [20:47:00] | twisted_one: | meh |
| [20:47:00] | djpere_gentoo: | (not man. snes9x :P ) |
| [20:48:00] | twisted_one: | I thought I used a diff emu |
| [20:48:00] | twisted_one: | dont remember |
| [20:48:00] | djpere_gentoo: | yea you use this otheron |
| [20:48:00] | djpere_gentoo: | e |
| [20:48:00] | djpere_gentoo: | I forget whats its called atm |
| [20:48:00] | djpere_gentoo: | but snes9x is better |
| [20:48:00] | twisted_one: | yeah |
| [20:48:00] | twisted_one: | oh well |
| [20:49:00] | twisted_one: | dont have my roms anymore anyways =\ |
| [20:49:00] | djpere_gentoo: | :> |
| [20:49:00] | djpere_gentoo: | I am going to write a script that will download mods for you from a site :> |
| [20:49:00] | twisted_one: | what sort of mods |
| [20:49:00] | twisted_one: | ? |
| [20:50:00] | scuzzy: | does snes9x need neogeo? |
| [20:51:00] | twisted_one: | anyways, bedtime for me, ttyl +) |
| [20:51:00] | twisted_one: | =) |
| [20:52:00] | djpere_gentoo: | who knows I just emerged snes9x : |
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| [20:56:00] | babyhuey: | hello, i have a problem with mythtv. i have my computer hooked up to the tv now and when i try to watch live tv it either seg faults or the output says killed. does anyone know why this would be? |
| [20:58:00] | iggy: | stop overclocking, don't use a hardened kernel, stop using Gentoo with ignorant CFLAGS, there's more if none of those help |
| [20:58:00] | babyhuey: | im not over clocking, no hardened kernel. what do you mean by ignorant cflags though? |
| [20:59:00] | iggy: | ding, ding, ding... Iggy guessed it |
| [20:59:00] | iggy: | try without any CFLAGS, and see if that fixes it |
| [20:59:00] | iggy: | CFLAGS="" emerge mythtv |
| [20:59:00] | babyhuey: | alright, but it did work when i had it hooked up to the crt, dunno if that makes any differences |
| [21:00:00] | iggy: | what are you using for the tvout? |
| [21:00:00] | babyhuey: | composite |
| [21:01:00] | iggy: | what inside the computer |
| [21:01:00] | iggy: | nvidia, ati, pvr-350, etc. |
| [21:01:00] | babyhuey: | nvidia geforce 4 mx440 |
| [21:02:00] | iggy: | do you have another video card you can try with? I actually just got rid of one of those because it was causing lots of weird crashes and stuff |
| [21:02:00] | iggy: | oddly enough, I have a 5700 and really old tnt2 that work fine |
| [21:02:00] | scuzzy: | I got an ati 9100, drivers are a mess |
| [21:02:00] | scuzzy: | nice card tho |
| [21:03:00] | babyhuey: | i read online that those cards are great for it, but the only other cards i have are like 32mb and no tv outs |
| [21:03:00] | iggy: | I think you are just stuck trying a bunch of different things until you find something that works |
| [21:04:00] | babyhuey: | alrihgt, ill try reemerging it like that |
| [21:04:00] | babyhuey: | thanks for your help |
| [21:07:00] | JonK: | anyone using a pvr500? |
| [21:08:00] | JonK: | anyone.... |
| [21:08:00] | JonK: | ? |
| [21:09:00] | scuzzy: | nah |
| [21:09:00] | JonK: | buhler? |
| [21:09:00] | scuzzy: | just a 250 |
| [21:09:00] | JonK: | i have a 350 and a 500, only ivtv is only configuring only one correctly |
| [21:09:00] | JonK: | one of the 500 tuners |
| [21:10:00] | scuzzy: | do they each configure in a diffirent manner? |
| [21:10:00] | JonK: | yes, ivtv sees the card as two pvr150's |
| [21:10:00] | scuzzy: | and, it might be getting confused with the fact that there are 2 |
| [21:10:00] | scuzzy: | you might have to specify a bus id? |
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| [21:11:00] | XAD|onoff: | JonK, search the net... I have seen configs for 350+500.... there are some tweaks needed as some options are skipped by 350 and some for 500... |
| [21:12:00] | XAD|onoff: | you configure them as 3 cards... except for the "tweaks"... |
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| [21:13:00] | mirak: | I have troubles configure sound |
| [21:13:00] | mirak: | there to many switch |
| [21:13:00] | mirak: | is |
| [21:13:00] | JonK: | I am configuring as 3 cards — and the ivtv module is loading for the 350 and the second tuner |
| [21:13:00] | JonK: | of the 500 |
| [21:13:00] | JonK: | but not the first.... |
| [21:13:00] | JonK: | mirak, your question is unclear |
| [21:15:00] | mirak: | yes |
| [21:15:00] | mirak: | the problem mostly come from the unrational beahavior of the sblive 5.1 digital |
| [21:15:00] | mirak: | for exemple |
| [21:16:00] | mirak: | I am talking about liveTV sound |
| [21:16:00] | mirak: | when I activate audio capture in the mixer |
| [21:16:00] | mirak: | I got the live sound as I would get it on my tv |
| [21:16:00] | mirak: | plus the sound of the liveTV |
| [21:16:00] | mirak: | delayed by 5 seconds |
| [21:17:00] | JonK: | that sounds very sub-optimal |
| [21:17:00] | scuzzy: | mirak: what capture card are you using? |
| [21:17:00] | mirak: | sblive 5.1 |
| [21:17:00] | mirak: | oh |
| [21:17:00] | mirak: | I have cable |
| [21:17:00] | scuzzy: | on your computer |
| [21:17:00] | mirak: | and I capture on compiste of a |
| [21:18:00] | mirak: | composite of PCTV Rave |
| [21:18:00] | Hamstaman is now known as Hamsta | |
| [21:18:00] | mirak: | the sound is captured by the sound card line in |
| [21:18:00] | twisted_one: | GreyFoxx: still around? |
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| [21:21:00] | twisted_one: | anyone here able to help with some mythweb issues |
| [21:21:00] | scuzzy: | I can't even get mythweb onto my box |
| [21:22:00] | mirak: | me either |
| [21:22:00] | mirak: | I failed |
| [21:22:00] | mirak: | I like more and more mythtv |
| [21:22:00] | babyhuey: | anyone using a pinnacle pctv pro tuner and have the remote working? |
| [21:23:00] | mirak: | only thing is that the menu browsing is a bit heavy |
| [21:23:00] | mirak: | why isn't it more reactive ? |
| [21:23:00] | scuzzy: | turn off transparency and stuff |
| [21:24:00] | scuzzy: | it might make it quicker |
| [21:24:00] | mirak: | hum transparency ? |
| [21:24:00] | scuzzy: | on the menus and stuff |
| [21:24:00] | scuzzy: | they overlay on the capture |
| [21:24:00] | twisted_one: | settings -> appearance -> ? |
| [21:24:00] | scuzzy: | it uses lots of cpu |
| [21:24:00] | mirak: | ah |
| [21:29:00] | scuzzy: | zsnes doesn't run .nes does it? |
| [21:30:00] | djpere_gentoo: | I just got znes |
| [21:30:00] | djpere_gentoo: | I dunno |
| [21:30:00] | djpere_gentoo: | its a pretty fast compile |
| [21:30:00] | scuzzy: | lol |
| [21:30:00] | scuzzy: | seems we are on the same trail |
| [21:30:00] | djpere_gentoo: | *zsnes |
| [21:30:00] | djpere_gentoo: | well I tried snes9x |
| [21:30:00] | twisted_one: | zsnes works for me, (not through myth though) |
| [21:30:00] | djpere_gentoo: | but fullscreen is borked ? |
| [21:30:00] | twisted_one: | thats the one =P |
| [21:30:00] | twisted_one: | dont know |
| [21:31:00] | djpere_gentoo: | I want fullscreen |
| [21:31:00] | twisted_one: | let me try |
| [21:31:00] | djpere_gentoo: | snes9x works in myth |
| [21:31:00] | djpere_gentoo: | its just a tiny window |
| [21:31:00] | scuzzy: | I keep on getting checksum failed |
| [21:31:00] | scuzzy: | twisted_one: you got super mario to run on sznes? |
| [21:31:00] | djpere_gentoo: | I am messing with xwit |
| [21:31:00] | scuzzy: | zsnes even |
| [21:31:00] | twisted_one: | scuzzy: dont have any roms, care to send me one to test? |
| [21:31:00] | scuzzy: | I got one that does |
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| [21:33:00] | mirak: | can the video out of pvr 350 be used as a video output for anything ? |
| [21:33:00] | mirak: | is it equivalent to the video out of a graphic card ? |
| [21:33:00] | twisted_one: | sorry, try again =P |
| [21:33:00] | JonK: | i don't think so |
| [21:33:00] | twisted_one: | no |
| [21:33:00] | twisted_one: | its not |
| [21:33:00] | twisted_one: | it can only be used to output mpeg2 streams IIRC |
| [21:34:00] | JonK: | does that include dvd rips? |
| [21:34:00] | JonK: | or, is the only thing you lose is emulators?" |
| [21:34:00] | mirak: | ok so it's not usable for a media box |
| [21:34:00] | JonK: | just not games |
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| [21:35:00] | twisted_one: | well |
| [21:35:00] | twisted_one: | Ive got zsnes full screen =) |
| [21:35:00] | djpere_gentoo: | :O |
| [21:35:00] | djpere_gentoo: | how ? |
| [21:35:00] | twisted_one: | one second |
| [21:35:00] | djpere_gentoo: | It says it cannot find openGL or sth for me |
| [21:35:00] | twisted_one: | i just ran it |
| [21:36:00] | djpere_gentoo: | :O |
| [21:36:00] | twisted_one: | and then I changed the settings throught he menu system |
| [21:36:00] | djpere_gentoo: | Yes that didn';t work |
| [21:36:00] | twisted_one: | odd |
| [21:36:00] | djpere_gentoo: | someting about openGL |
| [21:36:00] | twisted_one: | your video driver working? |
| [21:36:00] | djpere_gentoo: | yes |
| [21:36:00] | twisted_one: | glxgears = what fps? |
| [21:36:00] | djpere_gentoo: | Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". |
| [21:36:00] | djpere_gentoo: | glxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual. |
| [21:36:00] | twisted_one: | your video driver is not working =P |
| [21:37:00] | djpere_gentoo: | maybe it isn't ? |
| [21:37:00] | djpere_gentoo: | lol |
| [21:37:00] | twisted_one: | what card? |
| [21:37:00] | djpere_gentoo: | ati radeaon 7200 |
| [21:37:00] | twisted_one: | emerge ati-drivers |
| [21:37:00] | djpere_gentoo: | I did |
| [21:37:00] | twisted_one: | do it again |
| [21:37:00] | djpere_gentoo: | ok |
| [21:37:00] | twisted_one: | you ahve to do it evertime you rebuild your kernel |
| [21:37:00] | twisted_one: | =P |
| [21:37:00] | djpere_gentoo: | after I am done getting gcc 3.4 |
| [21:37:00] | djpere_gentoo: | Ohh |
| [21:37:00] | twisted_one: | hehe, yeah, I need to do that. |
| [21:37:00] | djpere_gentoo: | it takes forever |
| [21:37:00] | twisted_one: | yeah, the driver needs to be rebuilt after every kernel you build (well, once you are booted into the new one) |
| [21:38:00] | twisted_one: | anyways, bedtime for me |
| [21:38:00] | djpere_gentoo: | peace |
| [21:38:00] | twisted_one: | good luck,ill be on later if you still need help |
| [21:38:00] | twisted_one: | =) |
| [21:38:00] | djpere_gentoo: | aight |
| [21:38:00] | [stu]: | i just got mythtv working by following jarod wilson's Fedora Myth(TV)ology walkthrough, but now every time I boot I have to run 'modprobe ivtv' and 'modprobe lirc_i2c' to get capture and remote working again |
| [21:38:00] | [stu]: | how do i get these modules to load automatically on boot? |
| [21:39:00] | JonK: | what distrobuytion |
| [21:39:00] | [stu]: | fedora core 3 |
| [21:39:00] | JonK: | maybe /etc/modules |
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| [21:40:00] | JonK: | someone will know, i don't user fedora |
| [21:40:00] | braniff: | . /etc/modprobe.conf |
| [21:40:00] | JonK: | se |
| [21:40:00] | JonK: | see! |
| [21:40:00] | JonK: | isn't that for the alias lines? |
| [21:40:00] | [stu]: | that was my first guess too, but it's only got modules.conf, and all the relevant entries I can think of are there already |
| [21:40:00] | JonK: | try just /etc/modules |
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| [21:45:00] | JonK: | stu? |
| [21:46:00] | [stu]: | there's no /etc/modules in fedora :? |
| [21:47:00] | [stu]: | ls /etc/mod* -> /etc/modprobe.conf /etc/modprobe.conf~ /etc/modprobe.conf.dist |
| [21:48:00] | JonK: | hmmm.... |
| [21:50:00] | [stu]: | all the articles i've googled say if I have the alias in /etc/modprobe.conf, the modules will get loaded automatically, but they're there, and the don't get loaded until i do a modprobe |
| [21:54:00] | kormoc: | [stu], modprobe.conf doesn't autoload, the distros do, and not all distros do that. |
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| [21:55:00] | JonK: | try creating a file /etc/modules |
| [21:55:00] | JonK: | and list modules in there one line after another |
| [21:55:00] | JonK: | module1 |
| [21:55:00] | JonK: | module2 |
| [21:55:00] | JonK: | and nothing else |
| [21:55:00] | JonK: | then reboot and see what happens |
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| [21:58:00] | JonK: | I shall miss him |
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| [22:06:00] | XAD|onoff: | hmmm any developer here?? I have a problem with breaks in frontend and found out it is reduced when I run backend in "-v all" mode... any comments?? |
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| [22:22:00] | scuzzy: | anyone have any problems with xine and it looking interlaced when there is action on the screen? |
| [22:22:00] | babyhuey: | bah!!! why do i keep getting segmentation faults when i start mythfrontend |
| [22:24:00] | JonK: | scuzzy, there is a checkbox for "deinterlace playback" in one of the setting screens |
| [22:24:00] | JonK: | I don't know |
| [22:24:00] | JonK: | huey |
| [22:24:00] | JonK: | why do you keep getting segmentation faults when you start mythfrontend |
| [22:24:00] | scuzzy: | JonK: ta, it seems to be diffirent with diffirent dvd's |
| [22:25:00] | babyhuey: | jonk, i dont know, i was wondering if anyone knew |
| [22:25:00] | babyhuey: | its making me really mad |
| [22:25:00] | JonK: | oh, I thought you were telling a joke LOL |
| [22:25:00] | babyhuey: | oh, no |
| [22:25:00] | babyhuey: | haha |
| [22:27:00] | scuzzy: | JonK: -D in xine. ta. (: |
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| [23:45:00] | mirak: | hi |
| [23:45:00] | mirak: | is there a way to have better handling of the interface size |
| [23:45:00] | mirak: | ? |
| [23:45:00] | mirak: | it's only fullscreen or not |
| [23:45:00] | mirak: | it would be pleasant to be able to switch easily between window or full |
| [23:46:00] | iggy: | not easily |
| [23:48:00] | mirak: | not ? |
| [23:48:00] | mirak: | for the resize problem I see |
| [23:48:00] | mirak: | of the icons etcterra |
| [23:48:00] | mirak: | but in fact what would do it is a windowed mode for the interface |
| [23:49:00] | iggy: | yeah, it kinda sucks, I wish it worked better myself |
| [23:49:00] | mirak: | fixed |
| [23:49:00] | mirak: | but a resisable window for TV for exemple |
| [23:49:00] | mirak: | ok |
| [23:49:00] | mirak: | I must go to bed |
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