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| [00:22:00] | ole_schoola: | I broke my ALSA :( |
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| [00:23:00] | Bogus8: | ole_schoola: how so? |
| [00:23:00] | ole_schoola: | bumped the kernel and kmdls up and my AC-3 shows are spitting nasty crackle |
| [00:23:00] | Bogus8: | i'm having sound issues but alsa is actually working... just either not my pvr 150 or not myth |
| [00:23:00] | Bogus8: | ah |
| [00:23:00] | ole_schoola: | mine worked fine until the bump |
| [00:24:00] | Bogus8: | how did you "bump" them? |
| [00:24:00] | ole_schoola: | the kernel and the modules reved up |
| [00:25:00] | ole_schoola: | specifically.... |
| [00:25:00] | ole_schoola: | rpm -qa --qf '%{name} ' \*kmdl\*${OLD}\* | sed -e"s,$OLD,$NEW,g" | xargs apt-get -y install |
| [00:25:00] | ole_schoola: | worked like a charm |
| [00:25:00] | Bogus8: | wonder if it's related to my sound issues |
| [00:25:00] | Bogus8: | I didn't have any problems till I did apt-get upgrade |
| [00:25:00] | ole_schoola: | prolly not. |
| [00:26:00] | Bogus8: | and updated about 30 programs |
| [00:26:00] | Bogus8: | no aplay works but myth via pvr 150 has nothing |
| [00:26:00] | ole_schoola: | any digital sound gurus out there willing to take a stab at this? |
| [00:26:00] | Bogus8: | just went back to older drivers and still got nothing on audio :/ |
| [00:26:00] | Bogus8: | crackling is usually a clock sync problem |
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| [00:27:00] | Bogus8: | I know audio but not linux audio |
| [00:27:00] | ole_schoola: | .asoundrc at 48k per the digital guide on the wiki |
| [00:27:00] | Manolis: | Hello – Are there any HD-3000 owners in here by chance? |
| [00:27:00] | ole_schoola: | sorry, a2pc |
| [00:28:00] | Bogus8: | ole_schoola: but it matters if the two devices that are connected via digital link are on the same clock |
| [00:28:00] | Bogus8: | might just try cycling some stuff and see if it doesn't sync back up |
| [00:29:00] | ole_schoola: | this was all working prior to the rev up |
| [00:29:00] | ole_schoola: | clock includedc |
| [00:29:00] | Bogus8: | did you restart the pc (I know you normally don't need to, but I don't know how else to maybe resync the clock) |
| [00:29:00] | ole_schoola: | hmmm ... it hasn't been rebooted in ages. could be kinda fun |
| [00:30:00] | ole_schoola: | brb |
| [00:30:00] | Bogus8: | I just had a power outage here, first one in like 90 something days :( |
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| [00:35:00] | ole_schoola: | wow, rebooted fine. i guess i'm not such a newb hack anymore |
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| [00:36:00] | ole_schoola: | PCM plays fine, it's the AC-3 stuff going crackly, i'ma gonna go search the list a little better ... |
| [00:38:00] | Bogus8: | yeah, not sure |
| [00:38:00] | ole_schoola: | well crackle is a poor description – steady violent hiss on the order of painful is more apt |
| [00:39:00] | Bogus8: | digital is digital the only reason for it to crackle USUALLY is if it has the wrong clock or they aren't synced up right |
| [00:40:00] | Bogus8: | a lot of people new to digital will think that something is broken if they hear an out of sync system for the first time |
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| [00:41:00] | Bogus8: | I updated ALL my packages apt-get upgrad and dist-upgrade and I still don't get audio from myth :( |
| [00:42:00] | intrade: | rest got sound? |
| [00:42:00] | Bogus8: | intrade: aplay plays fine |
| [00:43:00] | intrade: | ok well i dont got mythtv it looked my machine up so i dumped it again |
| [00:43:00] | intrade: | i use kdetv |
| [00:43:00] | intrade: | and klirc for my remote |
| [00:44:00] | Bogus8: | did you try different distros? |
| [00:44:00] | intrade: | some run it fine aperantly on this |
| [00:44:00] | intrade: | i run kanotix |
| [00:44:00] | intrade: | CPU[AMD Duron clocked at 1294.560 Mhz] Kernel[Linux 2.6.11-kanotix-7 i686] Up[-1:16-] Mem[-496.832/502.75MB-] HDD[-140GB(7%used)-] Procs[-81-] Client[X-Chat 2.4.3] |
| [00:45:00] | Bogus8: | I am barely a mythtv user so i really don't have any advice... was just curious |
| [00:45:00] | intrade: | only got 512 ram and have problems when amarok is runing |
| [00:45:00] | intrade: | it chewd all my ram + half my swap |
| [00:46:00] | intrade: | i guess myth needs loads of ram also |
| [00:49:00] | Bogus8: | hmm I don't have much more ram than that and I don't have issues.. I run windowmaker though |
| [00:49:00] | Bogus8: | ok, found out that my backend is what is broken |
| [00:49:00] | intrade: | yea i run kde latest |
| [00:50:00] | Bogus8: | recordings play fine via front end and knoppix live front end doesn't get any audio on another pc |
| [00:52:00] | intrade: | get kanotix |
| [00:52:00] | intrade: | its way better |
| [00:53:00] | intrade: | made for install |
| [00:53:00] | intrade: | unlike knoppix that shits it self if you dont know how to fix it like knopper |
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| [00:53:00] | Bogus8: | I only have it as a live cd |
| [00:54:00] | intrade: | kanotix is the same |
| [00:54:00] | intrade: | but kano you can install savely |
| [00:54:00] | intrade: | like me it runs grub as bootloader |
| [00:54:00] | intrade: | i dumped knoppix from version 3.4 on |
| [00:55:00] | Bogus8: | I use fedora on my installs |
| [00:55:00] | intrade: | yea i had core1 |
| [00:55:00] | Bogus8: | they are almost on 4 now ;) |
| [00:55:00] | intrade: | took me 6 month to get macromedia flash player working |
| [00:55:00] | intrade: | with kanotix its just apt-get |
| [00:55:00] | intrade: | piss easy |
| [00:56:00] | intrade: | and it seems to be top documented the debian stuff |
| [00:56:00] | intrade: | i got a supybot runing now and i did know 0 about em took 1/2 a day to suss most of it |
| [00:57:00] | intrade: | i suspekt amarok has memory leeks it chews ram and swap |
| [00:57:00] | Bogus8: | yeah, that sounds a bit much |
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| [00:57:00] | intrade: | kde rocks however |
| [00:57:00] | Serbitar: | hail all |
| [00:57:00] | intrade: | its faster then winblows here |
| [00:58:00] | intrade: | hi |
| [00:58:00] | intrade: | how mutch ram is mythtv using? |
| [00:59:00] | intrade: | i had it on but not configured and it locked my machine up as well so i uninstalled and purget it again |
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| [01:00:00] | Serbitar: | is there a way i can import shows that i have recorded using my capture card but not using mythv to mythtv's archive? |
| [01:00:00] | Bogus8: | are they nuv files? |
| [01:01:00] | Serbitar: | no. they have been transcoded to .avi |
| [01:01:00] | intrade: | Serbitar: how mutch ram do you run? |
| [01:01:00] | intrade: | i just wonder if i need more |
| [01:01:00] | Bogus8: | I would imagine you would just have to use myth videos to view it |
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| [01:02:00] | Bogus8: | intrade: I'm running 640 and I got heaps free |
| [01:02:00] | Bogus8: | alsmost 500 |
| [01:02:00] | intrade: | hmm |
| [01:02:00] | intrade: | i got 512 |
| [01:02:00] | Serbitar: | intrade: sorry, wrong person to ask. i havent got my mythtv "live" yet (but my pc has 1G) |
| [01:02:00] | intrade: | ok |
| [01:03:00] | intrade: | i want 4 gig |
| [01:03:00] | intrade: | so i could run kino |
| [01:03:00] | Bogus8: | don't think 4gig is needed for anything that doesn't have a massive user load on it |
| [01:04:00] | Bogus8: | userS < plural |
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| [01:04:00] | Serbitar: | hmm. would a dual P3 500 machine be any good as a capturing machine? |
| [01:04:00] | intrade: | dont know sayd need 3 gig ram or more |
| [01:05:00] | Serbitar: | (640M ram) |
| [01:05:00] | intrade: | its video editing |
| [01:05:00] | intrade: | the kino progy |
| [01:05:00] | Bogus8: | is it any good? |
| [01:05:00] | intrade: | well could not try it |
| [01:05:00] | Bogus8: | I got 1gig on my windows box where I use Vegas and it's fine |
| [01:05:00] | intrade: | it installed ok |
| [01:05:00] | intrade: | here |
| [01:05:00] | intrade: | but then i found out how mutch ram i need lol |
| [01:06:00] | Bogus8: | my buddy runs a mac with 1 gig and Final Cut Pro and we do full length stuff just fine |
| [01:06:00] | intrade: | i recon its neede to edit and all |
| [01:07:00] | Bogus8: | Final Cut Pro is like no. 2 editing suite around... vegas is competing for a share of that but I wouldn't say they are capturing much... but they do have a serious editor... just name brand loyalty mostly |
| [01:07:00] | intrade: | intrade: Search took 0.392995 seconds: Kino International: The Best in World Cinema: <http://kino.schirmacher.de/article/static/61/>; Kino Flo, Kinoflo Lighting for (1 more message |
| [01:07:00] | intrade: | look there |
| [01:07:00] | intrade: | linux |
| [01:07:00] | mchou: | which NLE is no !? |
| [01:07:00] | Bogus8: | kinoflo lighting kicks ass ;) |
| [01:07:00] | mchou: | 1*? |
| [01:08:00] | Bogus8: | avid *roll eyes* |
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| [01:08:00] | mchou: | what do the pro's use? avid or better? |
| [01:09:00] | Bogus8: | i think avid does like 80+% of major motion pictures |
| [01:09:00] | mchou: | wow, no kidding |
| [01:09:00] | Bogus8: | and then FCP has like 70'sh % of the rest |
| [01:09:00] | Bogus8: | then all the windows programs like Vegas and Premeir fight it out for the rest of the crumbs |
| [01:10:00] | Bogus8: | not that they are bad but you know how the multimedia industry is when it comes to macs vs pc |
| [01:10:00] | mchou: | Premier sux. |
| [01:10:00] | mchou: | Primier runs on a mac :) |
| [01:10:00] | Bogus8: | it's not too bad.. but requires XP and I hate XP |
| [01:10:00] | intrade: | get xplight |
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| [01:10:00] | Bogus8: | yeah, but when there is avid and FCP premier is pretty much left out to dry except for the old school die hards |
| [01:11:00] | Bogus8: | f*ck xp all around |
| [01:11:00] | intrade: | yup lol |
| [01:11:00] | Bogus8: | 2k is nice and lean (for windows) |
| [01:11:00] | intrade: | i have not booted it since month now |
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| [01:11:00] | intrade: | nt used to be for business |
| [01:11:00] | Bogus8: | I have it on my main box because of Vegas |
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| [01:11:00] | Bogus8: | that's why I asked about this Kino |
| [01:12:00] | intrade: | xp is just a nicer nt |
| [01:12:00] | Bogus8: | with a price though |
| [01:12:00] | mchou: | I like Vegas but audio sync leaves much to be desired. |
| [01:12:00] | intrade: | i had it apt-get install kino |
| [01:12:00] | Bogus8: | well 2k is a stable updated NT ;) |
| [01:12:00] | Bogus8: | and XP is a pretty 2k |
| [01:12:00] | intrade: | needs firewire access |
| [01:12:00] | Bogus8: | I don't really have a linux desktop |
| [01:13:00] | Bogus8: | file/www server and myth |
| [01:13:00] | intrade: | i do best one i found after meny distros |
| [01:13:00] | intrade: | is kanotix |
| [01:13:00] | Bogus8: | you've said this |
| [01:13:00] | mchou: | haha |
| [01:13:00] | intrade: | i dislike gnome |
| [01:13:00] | mchou: | dude keeps raving about it.... |
| [01:13:00] | intrade: | ugly |
| [01:13:00] | Bogus8: | hey mchou anyone else complaining about backend breaking after an apt-get? |
| [01:13:00] | Bogus8: | recently |
| [01:14:00] | mchou: | lol, how should I know? I dont use deb or fc. |
| [01:14:00] | Bogus8: | I just asked if ANYone had complained ;) |
| [01:14:00] | intrade: | only heard about problems on dist-upgrade |
| [01:14:00] | intrade: | i never dist upgrade |
| [01:14:00] | mchou: | Bogus8: when all else fails, use the source. |
| [01:14:00] | intrade: | nor do i install notehr kernel |
| [01:15:00] | Bogus8: | mchou: sorry thought you hung out in dev also |
| [01:15:00] | Bogus8: | mchou: might try that... seems some what scary though... so many packages |
| [01:16:00] | mchou: | huh??? |
| [01:16:00] | Bogus8: | compiling from source |
| [01:16:00] | Bogus8: | would I need to do the whole suite? |
| [01:16:00] | mchou: | you install max 10 dev packages and stat compiling is it. |
| [01:16:00] | mchou: | start* |
| [01:16:00] | Bogus8: | looking now |
| [01:17:00] | Bogus8: | mind looking at this and telling me if this is still a valid set of instructions http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.4 |
| [01:18:00] | mchou: | it's always up2date :) |
| [01:18:00] | mchou: | never steered me wrong. |
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| [01:19:00] | Bogus8: | cool... guess i'll give it a run *gulp* |
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| [01:19:00] | Bogus8: | that means I need to remove my current stuff that I apt-get'd |
| [01:19:00] | Bogus8: | right? |
| [01:19:00] | mchou: | depends. |
| [01:20:00] | Bogus8: | I used j-rod's guide |
| [01:20:00] | mchou: | apt get out to tell you if what you have is stale. |
| [01:20:00] | mchou: | ought* |
| [01:20:00] | Bogus8: | not following |
| [01:20:00] | Bogus8: | it only knows what it's updated right? |
| [01:21:00] | mchou: | yeah, it will update to latest. |
| [01:21:00] | mchou: | apt-get pkgxxx will get the latest and greatest pkgxxx. |
| [01:21:00] | Bogus8: | so if I install manually then a new apt ver. comes out it will mess things up no? |
| [01:22:00] | mchou: | that depends on the packages :) |
| [01:22:00] | mchou: | I wouldnt worry too much about it. |
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| [01:22:00] | maddhaggis: | Hi guys....I know this may be way off topic but, in regards to patching your kernel what is the difference between the prepatch and the snapshot from kernel.org? |
| [01:23:00] | mchou: | just get the lastest dev pkgs necessary to compile is all. |
| [01:24:00] | Serbitar: | wooo |
| [01:24:00] | Bogus8: | mchou: :/ hmm still not sure... maybe I just don't fully understand how apt interacts with the system.. i'll read |
| [01:24:00] | Serbitar: | Bogus8: excellent thanks. exactly what i wanted |
| [01:25:00] | Bogus8: | Serbitar: what is that? |
| [01:25:00] | Serbitar: | the tip about mythvideo |
| [01:25:00] | Bogus8: | AH... glad I was finally able to help someone ;) |
| [01:26:00] | maddhaggis: | Anyone? |
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| [01:27:00] | Bogus8: | maddhaggis: I just get my new kernels for my distro via yum |
| [01:28:00] | ** maddhaggis tosses mchou a beer ** | |
| [01:28:00] | mchou: | sorry dude, dont drink :) |
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| [01:29:00] | shadh0e: | is it normal for the video plugin updating it's database to be slow as ass? |
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| [01:32:00] | maddhaggis: | Ok let me rephrase the question; If I want to update my 2.6.11.11 kernel to 2.6.12-rc5 should I use the prepatch or the snapshot? |
| [01:32:00] | maddhaggis: | or are snapshots only for CVS? |
| [01:33:00] | Serbitar: | i used patch-2.6.12-rc5.bz2 |
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| [01:34:00] | maddhaggis: | That would be the prepatch. thankx Serbitar |
| [01:35:00] | ** maddhaggis hands out beers to everyone in the channel....except mchou.....he's the dd:) ** | |
| [01:35:00] | Serbitar: | can i have a coke? |
| [01:35:00] | maddhaggis: | sure |
| [01:35:00] | Serbitar: | thanks :) |
| [01:35:00] | maddhaggis: | but its Friday |
| [01:36:00] | intrade: | saturday here |
| [01:36:00] | maddhaggis: | Beer30.....Miller time. |
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| [01:37:00] | maddhaggis: | I'm celebrating.... I finaly got LIRC working today. |
| [01:37:00] | Rigga: | congrats |
| [01:38:00] | Bogus8: | i'd like a cherry pepsi myself |
| [01:38:00] | maddhaggis: | had to compile from source....for some reason |
| [01:38:00] | Rigga: | anyone here usign the pvr 350 tvout ? |
| [01:39:00] | Rigga: | dont all answer at once :) |
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| [01:40:00] | Rigga: | anyone? |
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| [01:43:00] | Rigga: | is there anyone here? |
| [01:43:00] | Bogus8: | I am, but I have a 150 |
| [01:45:00] | maddhaggis: | Anyone ever use a M$ bluetooth keyboard /w myth? |
| [01:46:00] | Bogus8: | I don't trust anything with blue teeth ;) |
| [01:47:00] | maddhaggis: | I just shelled out big money for one for my main XP system....which I just converted to linux. Just wanted to know if I could still use this keyboard. |
| [01:51:00] | maddhaggis: | Bogus8: You just reminded me of a saying that an old army sargent of mine used to say in regards to women...."I don't trust anything that bleeds for seven days and doesn't die" |
| [01:51:00] | Bogus8: | Mr. Garrison on south park said that once too ; |
| [01:51:00] | Bogus8: | ;) |
| [01:52:00] | Bogus8: | in the movie I think |
| [01:52:00] | Bogus8: | and Wendy and Gregory get all uppity about it being a sexist statement |
| [01:53:00] | ** Bogus8 has watched that movie a little too much ** | |
| [01:54:00] | maddhaggis: | hehe |
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| [01:57:00] | exempla: | Hi all. Anybody here got any experience with GOP settings in NUV files? |
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| [02:03:00] | Rigga: | no pvr 350 tvout users here? |
| [02:03:00] | exempla: | I've just fixed an issue I had with ivtv_std not being set. The result of that was that the times reported by mythtv for recordings were too short, most apparent when I edited a file, setting a cut mark at the actual beginning of the show. when I exit and re-enter the show, it starts further on than where the cut mark was set. I tracked this down to the IVTV_STD driver parameter being missing, which is now fixed, |
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| [02:04:00] | exempla: | Rigga: I'm pvr350, not using tvout |
| [02:05:00] | Rigga: | ok need someone thats using tvout as that appears to be the issue for me |
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| [02:06:00] | sunilonln: | xris: dhofstra told me to ask you about backend crashes when using mythweb's recorded programs page |
| [02:07:00] | bomba: | does " ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/qt/3/include/qvaluelist.h (373)" look familiar to anyone? |
| [02:07:00] | xris: | sunilonln: it's hopefully fixed in cvs |
| [02:07:00] | sunilonln: | ok |
| [02:08:00] | sunilonln: | so.. currently i have it installed from atrpms |
| [02:09:00] | sunilonln: | would i need to apt remove before getting the cvs version? |
| [02:09:00] | twisted_one: | GreyFoxx: you around? |
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| [02:10:00] | Serbitar: | is there any way i ca organise my videos into sections? |
| [02:10:00] | Mrgoose: | different folders? |
| [02:11:00] | Serbitar: | they are well organised on the filesystem |
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| [02:13:00] | twisted_one: | is there a known issue wiht mythvideo and its metadata lookup from imdb? |
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| [02:38:00] | xris: | sunilonln: sorry, didn't realize you were still talking.. yeah, if you really wanted to try cvs, you'd have to remove mythtv from atrpms and start over with just the source. might be best to wait unless it's a real problem. |
| [03:03:00] | Bogus8: | can I just build the backend by itself? |
| [03:04:00] | djperegrine: | I tried to get alsa working but it says cannot load emu10k1 at boot |
| [03:04:00] | djperegrine: | ( using gentoo) |
| [03:05:00] | Serbitar: | hmm. can anyone tell me what perl stuff i need to install for mythvideo imdb lookup stuff to work? |
| [03:05:00] | Serbitar: | djperegrine: try snd-emu10k1 |
| [03:08:00] | djperegrine: | no such command |
| [03:08:00] | Serbitar: | ... |
| [03:08:00] | djperegrine: | oh youo mean emerge? |
| [03:08:00] | Serbitar: | no |
| [03:08:00] | Serbitar: | modprobe |
| [03:08:00] | djperegrine: | yes |
| [03:08:00] | djperegrine: | that works |
| [03:08:00] | djperegrine: | well does nothing |
| [03:09:00] | Serbitar: | now try your alsa stuff |
| [03:11:00] | djperegrine: | doesn't seem to work |
| [03:12:00] | Serbitar: | mixers are all muted most likely |
| [03:12:00] | Serbitar: | give alsamixer a go |
| [03:12:00] | djperegrine: | I did |
| [03:12:00] | djperegrine: | it works |
| [03:12:00] | djperegrine: | unmuted I think |
| [03:12:00] | djperegrine: | Ohh |
| [03:13:00] | djperegrine: | still no |
| [03:13:00] | djperegrine: | its unmuted ( I pressed m) |
| [03:13:00] | djperegrine: | and still doesn't work |
| [03:13:00] | Serbitar: | PCM channel? |
| [03:14:00] | dhofstra: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-7.html#ss7.2 |
| [03:14:00] | djperegrine: | now it is |
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| [03:19:00] | djpere-gentoo: | hrm |
| [03:19:00] | djpere-gentoo: | still doesn't work |
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| [03:27:00] | sunilonln: | Beirdo: is there a search interface to your channel logs? |
| [03:33:00] | reel: | try google with site:mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/ as one of the terms |
| [03:33:00] | djpere-gentoo: | Lol |
| [03:33:00] | djpere-gentoo: | I got it working |
| [03:33:00] | djpere-gentoo: | REALLY load |
| [03:33:00] | djpere-gentoo: | Lol |
| [03:33:00] | twisted_one: | djpere-gentoo: good to hear =) |
| [03:33:00] | djpere-gentoo: | no |
| [03:33:00] | djpere-gentoo: | its not good to hear |
| [03:33:00] | twisted_one: | lol |
| [03:33:00] | djpere-gentoo: | it was really bad to hear |
| [03:34:00] | twisted_one: | better than not hearing it = |
| [03:34:00] | twisted_one: | =P |
| [03:34:00] | jemarcks: | crap.. i created a file called -f How do i delete it |
| [03:34:00] | jemarcks: | ? |
| [03:34:00] | djpere-gentoo: | ironcily it was a jackhammer noise |
| [03:34:00] | djpere-gentoo: | I was trying to find the gun, jackhammer but stoopid me, lol |
| [03:34:00] | jemarcks: | i mean i created a dir named -f |
| [03:34:00] | djpere-gentoo: | anyway I will brb |
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| [03:35:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, howdy |
| [03:36:00] | twisted_one: | djperegrine: try rmdir "./-f" |
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| [03:50:00] | dmaneice: | has anyone ever used a pvr-500 |
| [03:50:00] | reel: | you'd be the first |
| [03:51:00] | GotD0t: | yup... we're all too poor in here to have one |
| [03:51:00] | dmaneice: | how do you check to see what the card has detected as |
| [03:52:00] | reel: | /sbin/lspci -v |
| [03:53:00] | sunilonln: | dmaneice: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php#capture > some info on setting up the pvr-500 |
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| [03:53:00] | djpere-gentoo: | lol |
| [03:54:00] | djpere-gentoo: | how do you connect your video card to a tv ? |
| [03:54:00] | djpere-gentoo: | what do I have to buy? |
| [03:54:00] | sunilonln: | djpere-gentoo: i bought a cheap ati card from newegg that had tv-out |
| [03:55:00] | sunilonln: | but know that most people prefer nvidia |
| [03:55:00] | djpere-gentoo: | Well I don't have one ( I think ) |
| [03:55:00] | djpere-gentoo: | I have a radeon 7200 |
| [03:55:00] | sunilonln: | i got a 9200se |
| [03:55:00] | sunilonln: | i can try to find the link if you want to buy one |
| [03:56:00] | djpere-gentoo: | I have a S/PDF out on my mobo |
| [03:56:00] | djpere-gentoo: | can that work ? |
| [03:56:00] | sunilonln: | that's sound |
| [03:56:00] | djpere-gentoo: | oh |
| [03:56:00] | reub2000: | I've got a geforce 6600, and I'm going to use dvi-hdmi cable to connect it to my hdtv |
| [03:57:00] | djpere-gentoo: | lol |
| [03:57:00] | djpere-gentoo: | mythtv is emerging |
| [03:57:00] | djpere-gentoo: | 1 out of 45 >><< |
| [03:57:00] | reub2000: | I *heart* gentoo |
| [03:57:00] | djpere-gentoo: | me to |
| [03:57:00] | djpere-gentoo: | but 45 depencies ? |
| [03:58:00] | reub2000: | new install? |
| [03:58:00] | djpere-gentoo: | of gentoo? |
| [03:58:00] | reub2000: | yes |
| [03:58:00] | djpere-gentoo: | no |
| [03:58:00] | djpere-gentoo: | I am on it right now |
| [03:58:00] | djpere-gentoo: | but I am doing a emerge mythtv mythvideo mythdvd mythbrowser mythgallery mythmusic mythnews mythweather |
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| [03:59:00] | djpere-gentoo: | so kind of makes sense >< |
| [03:59:00] | reub2000: | yeah |
| [03:59:00] | djpere-gentoo: | all of them are pretty small |
| [03:59:00] | djpere-gentoo: | its not like x windows or kde or anything |
| [03:59:00] | reub2000: | my myth box will be using an athlon 64 3700+, should I run x86 or amd64 on it? |
| [04:00:00] | djpere-gentoo: | so its impossible to hook a tv up using a regular graphics card? |
| [04:00:00] | reub2000: | most gfx card have svidia, dvi, and vga |
| [04:01:00] | reel: | you can buy a vga-tv convertor |
| [04:01:00] | djpere-gentoo: | I know |
| [04:01:00] | djpere-gentoo: | That is what I was asking :P |
| [04:01:00] | digitalboy: | amd64 works nicely on my Opteron64 Gentoo Install |
| [04:01:00] | reub2000: | svidia for sdtv, dvi for hdtv output |
| [04:01:00] | djpere-gentoo: | does it look shity? |
| [04:01:00] | reel: | never tried it |
| [04:02:00] | reel: | i just got a gf4 mx420 used for about $20 |
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| [04:02:00] | djpere-gentoo: | :D |
| [04:02:00] | djpere-gentoo: | hrm |
| [04:03:00] | reel: | works great, no fan |
| [04:03:00] | djpere-gentoo: | wouldn't it be easier to get a converter though? |
| [04:03:00] | reub2000: | geforce 2+2 mx420 |
| [04:03:00] | reel: | if you have an expensive graphics card probably |
| [04:03:00] | reel: | mine are crappy cards that I just use for occasional command line configuration or installs |
| [04:04:00] | reel: | so it made sense to upgrade them to one with the right outputs |
| [04:06:00] | reub2000: | so does anyone know if mythtv would greatly benifit from amd64 gnu/linux? |
| [04:06:00] | djpere-gentoo: | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| [04:06:00] | djpere-gentoo: | * Qt is missing MySQL support. Please add |
| [04:06:00] | djpere-gentoo: | * 'mysql' to your USE flags, and re-emerge Qt. |
| [04:07:00] | djpere-gentoo: | great |
| [04:07:00] | reub2000: | recompiling qt, you need a good book |
| [04:08:00] | Chutt: | you could install a whole other real distribution in the same amount of time! |
| [04:08:00] | reel: | what's qt stand for anyhow? |
| [04:08:00] | Chutt: | and not have to worry about stupid stuff like that |
| [04:08:00] | djpere-gentoo: | http://www.grandtec.com/wirelessVGA.htm <-- lol |
| [04:09:00] | sunilonln: | djpere-gentoo: that's overpriced and not what you want |
| [04:09:00] | sunilonln: | the terminus of that is vga |
| [04:09:00] | djpere-gentoo: | Thus the lol |
| [04:09:00] | djpere-gentoo: | Also alot of QT doesn't need to be compiled again |
| [04:09:00] | djpere-gentoo: | just part of it |
| [04:10:00] | reub2000: | i see |
| [04:10:00] | Chutt: | it'd still only take about 3 seconds to fix that problem on a different distro |
| [04:10:00] | reel: | here is one: http://www.smarthome.com/7743C.html |
| [04:10:00] | reub2000: | so does anyone know if mythtv would greatly benifit from amd64 gnu/linux? |
| [04:11:00] | Chutt: | reub2000, no, since there's no such thing. |
| [04:11:00] | Chutt: | i think you should call it gnulix |
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| [04:11:00] | Chutt: | instead, and really look like a wacko =) |
| [04:12:00] | sunilonln: | i have the same thing that reel just linked to, in different casing |
| [04:12:00] | sunilonln: | i used it before i got the radeon |
| [04:12:00] | sunilonln: | got fed up with the flicker |
| [04:13:00] | sunilonln: | actually mine didn't have component out; only composit |
| [04:13:00] | reub2000: | alright. does anyone know if mythtv would greatly benifit from amd64 linux? |
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| [04:16:00] | djpere-gentoo: | This is lame |
| [04:17:00] | djpere-gentoo: | that is it so hard |
| [04:17:00] | djpere-gentoo: | expensive to convert VGA to TV |
| [04:17:00] | Chutt: | so, uh, buy a half modern video card that does it all on the card? |
| [04:18:00] | djpere-gentoo: | Yes but I don't have one :P |
| [04:18:00] | reel: | hence buy one |
| [04:18:00] | Chutt: | you'll be sitting watching things compile for long enough to run to the store and buy one |
| [04:18:00] | Chutt: | and still have time to wait when you get back |
| [04:18:00] | djpere-gentoo: | lol |
| [04:19:00] | djpere-gentoo: | orr |
| [04:19:00] | djpere-gentoo: | I can just get the pvr-350 with tv out right? |
| [04:19:00] | reel: | you could but the reports on that have been spotty |
| [04:19:00] | djpere-gentoo: | I doint have a tvtuner yet |
| [04:20:00] | reel: | you could probably get a 150mce + cheap video card for less than 350 |
| [04:22:00] | djpere-gentoo: | 50 bucks.... |
| [04:22:00] | djpere-gentoo: | how much is a cheap gfx card? |
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| [04:24:00] | reel: | if you watch ebay, you can get one for 20 no problem |
| [04:25:00] | djpere-gentoo: | http://store.linkexpresspc.com/s3saixvica8m1.html |
| [04:25:00] | djpere-gentoo: | does that work? |
| [04:25:00] | djpere-gentoo: | or is it to crappy? |
| [04:29:00] | djpere-gentoo: | Neverrmind |
| [04:29:00] | djpere-gentoo: | I will steal my bros video card :D |
| [04:30:00] | reel: | it might work but no telling how good the quality is |
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| [04:34:00] | alex77: | quick question, mythfilldatabase doesn't update the db, it gives lots of 500 errors |
| [04:34:00] | alex77: | could it be because zap2it expired ? |
| [04:35:00] | sunilonln|away: | why don't you check? |
| [04:35:00] | alex77: | they usually email me before the subscribtion expires |
| [04:35:00] | kikisli: | just login |
| [04:35:00] | kikisli: | i didn't get a notice last time, either |
| [04:35:00] | alex77: | oh, I see |
| [04:36:00] | alex77: | Status: Active |
| [04:36:00] | alex77: | Subscription Expires: 2005/07/14 |
| [04:38:00] | alex77: | now I don't know what's wrong hm |
| [04:38:00] | twisted_one: | ok, now that I have myth setup, any suggestions as to tweaks? |
| [04:39:00] | twisted_one: | also, is transcoding worth it? or does it slam the CPU and cause myth to suffer? |
| [04:41:00] | alex77: | any ideas anyone ? |
| [04:42:00] | twisted_one: | whats the full output (pm me) |
| [04:43:00] | twisted_one: | better yet, pastebin it. |
| [04:45:00] | alex77: | http://pastebin.com/294916 |
| [04:45:00] | alex77: | just a bunch of those errors |
| [04:45:00] | alex77: | it worked fine last week, I have not changed any settings |
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| [04:46:00] | twisted_one: | that would seem to be something on their end, im trying it now to see if I can get it to work locally |
| [04:47:00] | twisted_one: | Hrmm, its working here |
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| [04:48:00] | twisted_one: | Dont know, the 500 ISE would be remote so I dont know of the cause |
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| [04:48:00] | briand: | I'm having a problem installing MythTV, following the Fedora Myth(TV)ology howto... |
| [04:48:00] | twisted_one: | you're not getting a 401 so i doubt its your account expiring |
| [04:49:00] | alex77: | there is a 401 there |
| [04:49:00] | alex77: | line 5 |
| [04:49:00] | twisted_one: | I see that |
| [04:49:00] | twisted_one: | but thats normal |
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| [04:50:00] | twisted_one: | I dont know why but the first request is always a 401 |
| [04:50:00] | alex77: | I don't remember |
| [04:51:00] | twisted_one: | I have one in mine |
| [04:51:00] | briand: | can't find package: ivtv-kmd1–2.6.11–1.27_FC3 |
| [04:51:00] | twisted_one: | I dont know if it trys to login wiht more privileges first then falls back or what, but my first response is always 401 |
| [04:51:00] | twisted_one: | Resolving datadirect.webservices.zap2it.com... 206.18.98.160 |
| [04:51:00] | twisted_one: | Connecting to datadirect.webservices.zap2it.com[206.18.98.160]:80... connected. |
| [04:51:00] | twisted_one: | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Unauthorized |
| [04:51:00] | twisted_one: | Connecting to datadirect.webservices.zap2it.com[206.18.98.160]:80... connected. |
| [04:51:00] | twisted_one: | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK |
| [04:51:00] | alex77: | looks familiar |
| [04:51:00] | briand: | likewise with alsa-kmd1–2.6.11–1.27_FC3 |
| [04:51:00] | twisted_one: | brian, just build ivtv by hand |
| [04:51:00] | alex77: | I hate that 500 heh |
| [04:51:00] | twisted_one: | alex77: I would too =P |
| [04:52:00] | twisted_one: | alex77: how long has this been going on for/ |
| [04:52:00] | twisted_one: | ? |
| [04:52:00] | alex77: | a few days now |
| [04:53:00] | twisted_one: | hrmm |
| [04:53:00] | twisted_one: | Well it seems specific to you, so I wonder if they have something wrong with your account |
| [04:54:00] | briand: | do I not have the latest errata kernel, or what? |
| [04:56:00] | alex77: | ok, duh lol |
| [04:56:00] | alex77: | somehow zap2it erased my channel lineup |
| [04:56:00] | twisted_one: | odd |
| [04:56:00] | twisted_one: | that would do it though =) |
| [04:56:00] | twisted_one: | bastards |
| [04:56:00] | sunilonln|away: | how do i start a vnc server to mirror the x server running on the linux box? |
| [04:57:00] | alex77: | yea, but it's weird |
| [04:57:00] | briand: | anyone?? |
| [04:57:00] | alex77: | why would they erase my lineup all of a sudden heh |
| [04:57:00] | alex77: | briand no idea here |
| [04:58:00] | twisted_one: | briand: sorry, dont know any other distros other than gentoo =\ |
| [04:58:00] | twisted_one: | alex77: I doubt they did it on purpose |
| [04:58:00] | alex77: | yea |
| [04:58:00] | alex77: | well, it's updating now, sweet |
| [04:58:00] | twisted_one: | good to hear |
| [04:59:00] | twisted_one: | I wouldn't worry about it unless they screw you over again. |
| [04:59:00] | ** briand sighs. ** | |
| [04:59:00] | briand: | okay. how do I find out what the latest errata kernel is? |
| [04:59:00] | ** GreyFoxx declares that computers sucketh ** | |
| [04:59:00] | twisted_one: | GreyFoxx: =) |
| [04:59:00] | twisted_one: | how are you doing sir? =) |
| [04:59:00] | briand: | ..since it seems that all the apt-get commands that refer to my kernel revision are the ones that are failing... |
| [04:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | not so special |
| [05:00:00] | twisted_one: | bleh, whats wrong? |
| [05:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | got a dying drive that I need to replace |
| [05:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | luckily I picked up a new drive today for my GF's system |
| [05:00:00] | twisted_one: | eek |
| [05:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | so it |
| [05:00:00] | twisted_one: | nice =) |
| [05:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | 's going into my box in 5 minutes |
| [05:00:00] | twisted_one: | how big is the drive? |
| [05:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | 320G |
| [05:00:00] | twisted_one: | that you are replacing |
| [05:00:00] | twisted_one: | wow, ouch. |
| [05:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | the dying one is 250 |
| [05:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | going back to the store tomorrow :) |
| [05:01:00] | twisted_one: | ah, that new still? |
| [05:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [05:01:00] | twisted_one: | bleh, what brand? |
| [05:01:00] | twisted_one: | maxtor? |
| [05:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | actually no. a Seagate |
| [05:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | first problem I've ever had with a seagate |
| [05:01:00] | twisted_one: | oh, odd. |
| [05:01:00] | alex77: | people say maxtor's aren't good, but I had a 60gig maxtor for 4 years, not 1 problem |
| [05:02:00] | alex77: | my wd crapped out after 1 year |
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| [05:02:00] | twisted_one: | I have had EVERY maxtor I buy fail on me. |
| [05:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | AggiEmpeg: If you really want to know why not ask ? |
| [05:02:00] | AggiEmpeg: | GreyFoxx: sorry, wrong damn command |
| [05:02:00] | briand: | apparently. |
| [05:03:00] | AggiEmpeg: | I apologize profusely |
| [05:03:00] | twisted_one: | lol |
| [05:03:00] | briand: | well, do i need to have alsa-kmd1-* and/or ivtv-kmd1-* installed for MythTV to work? |
| [05:03:00] | AggiEmpeg: | I feel like a tool now... and I thought I had switched channels too |
| [05:03:00] | sunilonln|away: | briand: yeah |
| [05:04:00] | twisted_one: | AggiEmpeg: its ok I dont mind getting poked and prodded |
| [05:04:00] | briand: | okay. guess i'll just wait here until someone knows the answer, then. |
| [05:04:00] | twisted_one: | =P |
| [05:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | init 0 |
| [05:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | oops, wrong xterm |
| [05:04:00] | sunilonln|away: | briand: are the modules for your kernel on the repository? |
| [05:04:00] | briand: | apparently not |
| [05:05:00] | sunilonln|away: | is your kernel up to date? |
| [05:05:00] | briand: | i don't know how to find out which ones are there. |
| [05:05:00] | briand: | i have no idea how to find out what the latest errata kernel is for FC3 |
| [05:05:00] | briand: | i'm just plodding along using the directions on Fedora Myth(TV)ology: HOWTO |
| [05:05:00] | sunilonln|away: | can't you just type 'apt-get kernel-update' |
| [05:06:00] | briand: | will that do it? |
| [05:06:00] | sunilonln|away: | i believe so |
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| [05:06:00] | sunilonln|away: | then you apt-get install all of the kernel modules |
| [05:07:00] | briand: | E: Invalid operation kernel-update |
| [05:07:00] | sunilonln|away: | ok |
| [05:07:00] | sunilonln|away: | 1 sec |
| [05:07:00] | sunilonln|away: | let me figure out how i did it |
| [05:07:00] | twisted_one: | GreyFoxx: feel like helping me with ati_remote.c? |
| [05:07:00] | twisted_one: | =) |
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| [05:07:00] | twisted_one: | (after you get your drive situation sorted out) |
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| [05:13:00] | Beirdo: | fucking hell |
| [05:13:00] | sunilonln|away: | briand: try "apt-get install kernel#2.6.11–1.27_FC3" w/o the "s |
| [05:13:00] | sunilonln|away: | Beirdo: what's wrong |
| [05:13:00] | Beirdo: | so it seems the powersupply in my old mail/news/etc server died |
| [05:13:00] | sunilonln|away: | that sucks |
| [05:13:00] | Beirdo: | a week ago, just after I left for a week vacation |
| [05:13:00] | Beirdo: | I know what I'm doing tomorrow |
| [05:13:00] | Beirdo: | bitchy computers |
| [05:13:00] | Beirdo: | it was also my DHCP server |
| [05:14:00] | Beirdo: | so my entire network ate itself |
| [05:14:00] | briand: | sunilonln|away: that's the kernel i currently have installed |
| [05:14:00] | fryfrog: | what do you use as a router? |
| [05:14:00] | fryfrog: | or was that your router too? |
| [05:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | twisted_one: Sorry, tomorrow. after this I'll be sleepin |
| [05:14:00] | Beirdo: | no, it wasn't my router |
| [05:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: heh |
| [05:14:00] | sunilonln|away: | briand: hmm |
| [05:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | I had to tame the bitch that is the DHCPD source last week for work |
| [05:14:00] | Beirdo: | but the machines all lost their DHCP lease, and promptly dropped off the network |
| [05:14:00] | fryfrog: | i've always wanted to try one of those linksys with the opensource firmware |
| [05:15:00] | Beirdo: | fryfrog: I have 3 of em |
| [05:15:00] | fryfrog: | oh, is that what you use as your router? |
| [05:15:00] | Beirdo: | but I use a PC running OpenBSD as my firewall |
| [05:15:00] | fryfrog: | or do you just have 3 of em? |
| [05:15:00] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [05:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | Lowered the loadtime of the server from 1 minute 25 seconds on alarge network with 60,000+ leases down to 19 seconds :) |
| [05:15:00] | fryfrog: | what do you do with em then? |
| [05:15:00] | Beirdo: | I have three bridging my wireless across the room |
| [05:15:00] | sunilonln|away: | briand: http://atrpms.net/dist/fc3/ivtv/ > the third one on the list should work for you, then |
| [05:15:00] | fryfrog: | hahaha |
| [05:15:00] | fryfrog: | i guess they are cheap for a WAP too |
| [05:16:00] | twisted_one: | GreyFoxx: how hard is it |
| [05:16:00] | twisted_one: | ? |
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| [05:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | twisted_one: trivial |
| [05:16:00] | twisted_one: | GreyFoxx: hrmm, i just dont understand what I see in the .c file |
| [05:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | Replace he ati_remote.c in the kernel source with the one I gave ya, after it contains your key mappings just compile it as a module |
| [05:17:00] | twisted_one: | ok |
| [05:17:00] | twisted_one: | why dont you give it to me and I will play with it |
| [05:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | I told you the URL earlier |
| [05:17:00] | twisted_one: | if you have it handy |
| [05:17:00] | twisted_one: | oh... |
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| [05:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | www.phaze.org/mythtv/ati_remote.c |
| [05:17:00] | twisted_one: | hrmm |
| [05:17:00] | briand: | E: Couldn't find package ivtv-kmdl-2.6.11–1.27_FC3 |
| [05:17:00] | twisted_one: | ok thank you |
| [05:18:00] | trissmo: | can some one help me install mythtv? |
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| [05:19:00] | sunilonln|away: | try installing the rpm from the website |
| [05:19:00] | briand: | is it KMDL or KMD1 ? |
| [05:19:00] | sunilonln|away: | letter l |
| [05:19:00] | sunilonln|away: | as in kernel module |
| [05:19:00] | briand: | okay, that's what i'm typing |
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| [05:22:00] | sunilonln: | xris: is the database query bug also affecting deletes from within the frontend? it freezes for me if i try to delete something |
| [05:22:00] | xris: | what db query bug? |
| [05:22:00] | sunilonln: | never mind |
| [05:22:00] | sunilonln: | it's working now |
| [05:22:00] | xris: | the mythweb bug causes the backend to segfault (sometimes). |
| [05:22:00] | sunilonln: | ok |
| [05:22:00] | sunilonln: | i thought it was database related |
| [05:22:00] | sunilonln: | anyways, ignore my questiong |
| [05:23:00] | xris: | if you don't have asynchronous deletes enabled, a slow filesystem (basically, ext3) can take 5–10 seconds to delete a large file. |
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| [05:25:00] | briand: | well, since that's obviously not going any further... |
| [05:25:00] | briand: | anyone here running FC3 on a Pundit-S ? |
| [05:26:00] | fryfrog: | xris: can you disable async deletes on ext3? |
| [05:26:00] | briand: | when I type 'reboot' it goes thru the whole shutdown, unmounts filesystems, etc... and 'hangs' right after displaying "Restarting system" ... i have to manually power down and back up. ideas? |
| [05:26:00] | sunilonln: | in mythtvsetup, auto-commercial flagging when recording starts isn't recommended for low powered systems |
| [05:26:00] | fryfrog: | briand: you got APM or ACPI enabled? |
| [05:26:00] | sunilonln: | what's the benchmark? |
| [05:26:00] | briand: | fryfrog: i dunno. in BIOS? |
| [05:26:00] | fryfrog: | you mean, what is a low powered systeM? |
| [05:26:00] | sunilonln: | yeah |
| [05:26:00] | fryfrog: | briand: in your linux distro |
| [05:26:00] | fryfrog: | sunilonln: i use comm autoflag on an amd 1600+ |
| [05:27:00] | briand: | i have no idea |
| [05:27:00] | sunilonln: | ok |
| [05:27:00] | sunilonln: | i'm running a p3 1ghz, so i'm guessing it's not a good idea |
| [05:27:00] | fryfrog: | sunilonln: really, when you get down to it... since it runs with such a low priority it'd only really matter if you had SUCH a slow processor that it took like 2 days for one show to flag :) |
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| [05:27:00] | fryfrog: | sunilonln: nah, i think you'd be fine |
| [05:27:00] | sunilonln: | ok |
| [05:27:00] | fryfrog: | sunilonln: it shouldn't ever steal cpu time from anything that *needs* it |
| [05:28:00] | fryfrog: | just make sure it set to the low priority thing |
| [05:28:00] | fryfrog: | briand: is this newish or oldish hardware? |
| [05:28:00] | sunilonln: | you mean "CPU Usage: low"? |
| [05:28:00] | fryfrog: | yah, that sounds good sir! |
| [05:29:00] | briand: | it's a brand spankin' new pundit-s, 533FSB 2.0G Celeron D processor |
| [05:29:00] | sunilonln: | where do i enable automatic transcoding? i don't see it in mythtvsetup |
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| [05:30:00] | fryfrog: | its somewhere around the recording profiles |
| [05:30:00] | fryfrog: | pick a profile for like, mpeg2 then check the "autotranscode" |
| [05:30:00] | sunilonln: | ok, so that's in frontend setup, right |
| [05:30:00] | fryfrog: | i would NOT do auto-transcode on a p3 1ghz |
| [05:31:00] | sunilonln: | ok |
| [05:31:00] | fryfrog: | yeah, that is in front end setup |
| [05:31:00] | sunilonln: | in that case it doesn't matter |
| [05:31:00] | fryfrog: | THAT is a cpu hog and would probably take 4–8 hours / show |
| [05:31:00] | fryfrog: | comm flagging prolly take 1–3 hours, i'd guess |
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| [05:32:00] | fryfrog: | i don't transcode on my amd 1600+ :) |
| [05:32:00] | sunilonln: | how about automatically removing commercials? |
| [05:32:00] | fryfrog: | i don't think you can |
| [05:32:00] | fryfrog: | it turns out its a bad idea |
| [05:32:00] | sunilonln: | ok |
| [05:32:00] | fryfrog: | since it is not always right, you'd end up with portions of your show missing |
| [05:32:00] | sunilonln: | yeah |
| [05:32:00] | fryfrog: | law & order is super-bad for fake commercials :) |
| [05:32:00] | fryfrog: | you can use the ummm |
| [05:32:00] | fryfrog: | z key? |
| [05:33:00] | fryfrog: | while watching |
| [05:33:00] | fryfrog: | it'll skip tho where the flag is |
| [05:33:00] | sunilonln: | right now i have a silver hauppage remote using j-rod's keymap |
| [05:33:00] | fryfrog: | do you plan on saving your shows? |
| [05:33:00] | sunilonln: | i'll look up where that is |
| [05:33:00] | sunilonln: | i don't plan on saving them long-term; i'll probably accumulate a library of movies though |
| [05:34:00] | sunilonln: | which is why i wanted to transcode the movies |
| [05:34:00] | fryfrog: | ah, yeah you can just fire off a transcode manually |
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| [05:34:00] | sunilonln: | ok |
| [05:34:00] | fryfrog: | highlight a recording (like where you watch) and use the right arrow key to bring up menu |
| [05:34:00] | fryfrog: | or i think press "t" while watching? |
| [05:35:00] | briand: | okay, let's try it this way. what is APM or ACPI, how do I tell whether it's enabled, and possibly un-enable it? |
| [05:35:00] | fryfrog: | briand: ACPI and APM are both power managment thingies |
| [05:35:00] | fryfrog: | you'd want them enabled |
| [05:36:00] | fryfrog: | its what lets windows actually turn *off* your computer |
| [05:36:00] | fryfrog: | briand: did you ever tell me what age your hardware is? |
| [05:36:00] | briand: | yes, i did |
| [05:36:00] | sunilonln: | if i want to start the frontend over ssh, how do i make it so it doesn't get killed when i close the ssh session? |
| [05:36:00] | sunilonln: | right now i'm using "export DISPLAY=:0 ; mythfrontend" |
| [05:36:00] | fryfrog: | ah, gotcha i see it now |
| [05:36:00] | briand: | it's a brand new Asus Pundit-S, with a 533FSB 2.0GHz Prescott Celeron D processor |
| [05:37:00] | fryfrog: | sunilonln: run "screen" then run that command |
| [05:37:00] | sunilonln: | ok |
| [05:37:00] | fryfrog: | if you need to get back to it, just use "screen -r" |
| [05:37:00] | fryfrog: | and to detatch, use ctrl-a d |
| [05:37:00] | xris: | "S"? did they rev it again? |
| [05:37:00] | briand: | the -S, as far as I know, denotes that it has Prescott support |
| [05:37:00] | fryfrog: | ctrl-a <space> will cycle screen tabs and ctrl-a c will make a new screen |
| [05:38:00] | sunilonln: | -bash: screen: command not found |
| [05:38:00] | fryfrog: | sunilonln: use your distro's thingie to install it |
| [05:38:00] | fryfrog: | "emerge screen" in gentoo |
| [05:39:00] | fryfrog: | "apt-get install screen" in a debian based system or maybe FC? |
| [05:39:00] | sunilonln: | yeah |
| [05:39:00] | xris: | briand: I'm pretty sure that prescott uses a different socket |
| [05:40:00] | briand: | it's a socket 478 chip |
| [05:40:00] | sunilonln: | cool |
| [05:40:00] | xris: | hmm, maybe I didn't read far enough in wikipedia. you'd think I knew more about this given how close my company is with intel about these things. |
| [05:40:00] | sunilonln: | exactly wha ti wanted |
| [05:41:00] | briand: | i'm sure it's available in a number of different configurations.. |
| [05:41:00] | xris: | I guess they made some for each. |
| [05:41:00] | briand: | but they do make a socket 478 chip (a few of them, actually) in Prescott |
| [05:41:00] | briand: | I got the Celeron D for $42 ... rather than the P4 (no hyperthreading) for $172 |
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| [05:42:00] | fryfrog: | i run irssi irc client inside screen, then ssh from anywhere i want and i am on my same irc session :) |
| [05:42:00] | xris: | briand: not bad. |
| [05:42:00] | fryfrog: | briand: is that the *only* difference between the celeron and p4 now? |
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| [05:42:00] | briand: | is what? |
| [05:42:00] | xris: | so does the new pundit have an ati video card or did they revert to SiS? I can't find the "s" on the website. |
| [05:42:00] | fryfrog: | hyperthreading |
| [05:42:00] | xris: | fryfrog: celeron has smaller cache and no HT |
| [05:42:00] | briand: | both chips are available in Prescott, fryfrog |
| [05:43:00] | fryfrog: | last time i looked at celerons was at the 366A that ran at 550 :) |
| [05:43:00] | briand: | don't think so... because the P4 is available with or without hyperthreading |
| [05:43:00] | xris: | that's all it's ever been. each time intel revs the P4, the old ones become "celeron" |
| [05:43:00] | xris: | briand: all new p4's are HT |
| [05:43:00] | xris: | anything else is old stock, or stuff intel has made up to keep backwards compatible for replacement parts. |
| [05:44:00] | sunilonln: | fryfrog: for a manual transcode, do i have to be watching the recording the entire time? |
| [05:44:00] | xris: | sunilonln: no |
| [05:44:00] | fryfrog: | no sir :) |
| [05:44:00] | fryfrog: | it just fires it off :) |
| [05:44:00] | fryfrog: | in the background |
| [05:44:00] | xris: | in fact, when the transcode finishes, if you are replacing the original, it'll kick you back to the menu. |
| [05:44:00] | briand: | so... about this reboot "hang" ... any suggestions to try? |
| [05:44:00] | xris: | (unless that's changed recently — it used to) |
| [05:45:00] | fryfrog: | briand: don't reboot? :)( |
| [05:45:00] | xris: | briand: hang on reboot? |
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| [05:46:00] | briand: | you asked if i had ACPI or APM enabled... how do I check? |
| [05:47:00] | briand: | xris: yes. if I type 'reboot', linux goes through the whole shutdown procedure, killall, etc.. dismounts the filesystems, and after it types "Restarting system" it just 'hangs' there until I power cycle it. |
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| [05:48:00] | xris: | briand: weird. which distro? |
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| [05:49:00] | briand: | Fedora Core 3 |
| [05:49:00] | briand: | same as on this machine |
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| [05:49:00] | fryfrog: | its unlikely, but could you make sure acpi is enabled in the BIOS? |
| [05:49:00] | xris: | briand: then power management is enabled. |
| [05:50:00] | briand: | fryfrog: yes, i can check that. |
| [05:50:00] | fryfrog: | you might try "lsmod | grep -i acpi" and see if any acpi modules are loaded |
| [05:50:00] | xris: | but like fryfrog said, check the bios.. you'll want to look there for some pundit-specific power/fan adjustments, too (haven't looked at mine in ages, so I don't know what to look for) |
| [05:50:00] | fryfrog: | it would be REALLY strange for such a modern system to not have it enabled |
| [05:50:00] | ** briand is typing 'reboot' ... ** | |
| [05:50:00] | fryfrog: | i think you'd need a pentium classic or very early p2 to NOT have good/working acpi |
| [05:52:00] | sunilonln: | in the view recordings page, i have a recording that has an icon that looks like a book in the bottom right corner of the screen |
| [05:52:00] | sunilonln: | what does that mean? |
| [05:52:00] | briand: | 'ACPI Suspend to RAM' ?? |
| [05:52:00] | fryfrog: | means you have watched that show and escaped out |
| [05:52:00] | fryfrog: | if you go back in, it will start from where you escaped out |
| [05:52:00] | fryfrog: | (means it has a bookmark) |
| [05:52:00] | sunilonln: | ok |
| [05:52:00] | sunilonln: | what about one that looks like a gravestone |
| [05:53:00] | fryfrog: | ummm |
| [05:53:00] | fryfrog: | auto-expires? |
| [05:53:00] | fryfrog: | oh, press F1 |
| [05:53:00] | fryfrog: | it'll show ya |
| [05:53:00] | sunilonln: | ok |
| [05:53:00] | sunilonln: | hmm, i need a wireless keyboard |
| [05:54:00] | nixbased: | get a logitech mines pretty good I just got the wireless mouse/keyboard combo |
| [05:54:00] | fryfrog: | you and everyone else! |
| [05:55:00] | fryfrog: | RF or IR? |
| [05:55:00] | briand: | 'ACPI Suspend to RAM' ?? |
| [05:55:00] | nixbased: | IR |
| [05:57:00] | xris: | briand: no clue |
| [05:57:00] | nixbased: | wait no it is a RF lol |
| [05:58:00] | nixbased: | if u call 27Mz RF anyway |
| [05:58:00] | nixbased: | Mhz* |
| [06:03:00] | briand: | okay, on the off-chance that i accidentally enabled or disabled something BIOS, i reset factory defaults. still the same issue. |
| [06:03:00] | sunilonln is now known as sunilonln|away | |
| [06:03:00] | briand: | so, that's not solved. |
| [06:04:00] | briand: | and, after 7 hours of this, i guess i'll ask the next crew that shows up about ivtv and alta installation |
| [06:04:00] | fryfrog: | alta? |
| [06:04:00] | fryfrog: | or alsa? |
| [06:05:00] | briand: | alsa |
| [06:05:00] | briand: | neither are apparently available to be installed via apt-get |
| [06:05:00] | fryfrog: | well, fortunatly the "reboot" issue isn't a show stopper :) |
| [06:05:00] | fryfrog: | did you try "apt-cache search ivtv"? |
| [06:05:00] | fryfrog: | and if all else fails, you can just goto ivtv.tv and get the source and compile it yourself :) |
| [06:05:00] | briand: | well, no I didn't. this is the first i've heard of it. |
| [06:05:00] | briand: | well, not quite that easy... |
| [06:06:00] | fryfrog: | give that a shot, maybe you have the name wrong :) |
| [06:06:00] | briand: | there are no devel tools on that machine |
| [06:06:00] | fryfrog: | so install em |
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| [06:06:00] | sunilonln|away: | briand: you are set up to use the atrpms repository right? |
| [06:07:00] | sunilonln|away: | (it's worth checking) |
| [06:07:00] | briand: | yes |
| [06:07:00] | sunilonln|away: | ok |
| [06:08:00] | ** sunilonln|away just wants to accomplish solving someone else linux problems for once :) ** | |
| [06:09:00] | briand: | okay, then figure out why this is going on. |
| [06:09:00] | briand: | typing the same damn thing I've typed all night, is now working. |
| [06:09:00] | sunilonln|away: | fryfrog: mythtranscode doesn't seem to be using that much in terms of resources |
| [06:10:00] | sunilonln|away: | is it worse when it's autotranscoding? |
| [06:10:00] | sunilonln|away: | briand: so it works now? |
| [06:11:00] | briand: | yeah, go figure. |
| [06:11:00] | sunilonln|away: | cool |
| [06:11:00] | briand: | so, mythtv gurus.. lemme ask an easier question. |
| [06:11:00] | ** sunilonln|away isn't a guru by any means but i'll try to answer ** | |
| [06:11:00] | briand: | i have a pvr-350. Should I use the TV-out on that card, or the TV-out on the pundit box? |
| [06:12:00] | sunilonln|away: | i would think it's better to use the 350 since it'll do hardware decoding |
| [06:14:00] | sunilonln|away: | also check out http://www.mattmarsh.net/computing/pundit/ |
| [06:14:00] | sunilonln|away: | although it looks a bit stale |
| [06:14:00] | briand: | yes, and also for a front-end only |
| [06:17:00] | briand: | anyway... i need to catch some z's... i'll attack this again tomorrow. meanwhile, i appreciate your help... and your patience (even while my patience was wearing thin) |
| [06:18:00] | sunilonln|away: | try the 350, it's probably easier to configure |
| [06:18:00] | sunilonln|away: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php?SID& . . . open#capture |
| [06:18:00] | fryfrog: | the 350's tv out is *not* fun to setup and use, from what i've read |
| [06:18:00] | sunilonln|away: | ok, never mind then |
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| [06:19:00] | briand: | sunilonln|away: the wilsonet.com tutorial/how-to is what i've been following. |
| [06:19:00] | sunilonln|away: | ok |
| [06:19:00] | sunilonln|away: | that's what i did also |
| [06:19:00] | sunilonln|away: | j-rod wrote it, so he'd be the best person to ask specific questions |
| [06:19:00] | briand: | well, and yours is working.... |
| [06:19:00] | sunilonln|away: | after much grief |
| [06:19:00] | briand: | so, i'll keep pluggin' away at it |
| [06:19:00] | sunilonln|away: | live tv still has audio problems |
| [06:20:00] | sunilonln|away: | recording is working flawlessly |
| [06:20:00] | briand: | what card are you using? |
| [06:20:00] | sunilonln|away: | pvr-150 |
| [06:20:00] | briand: | well, we'll see how i fare with the -350. i've got a ways to go before I get that far, tho... |
| [06:20:00] | briand: | ;) |
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| [07:12:00] | ricochet: | Remote encoder not responding. |
| [07:12:00] | ricochet: | ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/include/qt3/qvaluelist.h (373) |
| [07:12:00] | ricochet: | 2005-06–03 22:53:12.745 WriteStringList: Bad socket |
| [07:12:00] | ricochet: | 2005-06–03 22:53:12.745 ReadStringList: Bad socket |
| [07:12:00] | ricochet: | Remote encoder not responding. |
| [07:12:00] | ricochet: | 2005-06–03 22:53:12.856 Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None |
| [07:12:00] | ricochet: | anyone know what is causing this? |
| [07:13:00] | stoffel: | read the backends log messages |
| [07:14:00] | ricochet: | I dont see anything interesting |
| [07:16:00] | ricochet: | stoffel ^ |
| [07:16:00] | stoffel: | increase the log level |
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| [07:19:00] | ricochet: | stoffel, hm.. I just killed and restarted the backend and it worked. arg |
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| [07:22:00] | fryfrog: | does anyone recall if someone from this channel racred mazda miatas? |
| [07:22:00] | ** rpete bets lots of people do ** | |
| [07:22:00] | rpete: | they are a great little car after all |
| [07:22:00] | fryfrog: | lots of people *from this channel*? |
| [07:22:00] | rpete: | well, okay, maybe not |
| [07:23:00] | fryfrog: | i remember talking to someone about them and was hoping to get their opinion on one i am considering buying, thats all :) |
| [07:23:00] | fryfrog: | but i can't recall which of the 3 channels i hang out in it was on :/ |
| [07:23:00] | fryfrog: | rpete: you like em? |
| [07:23:00] | rpete: | well yeah, but I'm more of a motorcycle guy so can't really say much about them other than the usual |
| [07:24:00] | fryfrog: | gotcha |
| [07:24:00] | fryfrog: | yeah, i am more of a big old people's car |
| [07:24:00] | fryfrog: | person |
| [07:24:00] | fryfrog: | i think they are small, fun but kinda *girly* |
| [07:24:00] | fryfrog: | but... in that price range, there ain't SHIT that is better |
| [07:24:00] | rpete: | my bike was designed by the m5 designer, so I'm biased |
| [07:24:00] | fryfrog: | what bike is that? |
| [07:24:00] | fryfrog: | do you have pictures? |
| [07:24:00] | rpete: | kawasaki z1000 |
| [07:25:00] | fryfrog: | you an engines person? |
| [07:25:00] | rpete: | http://www.motorcycledaily.com/021703rear.jpg |
| [07:25:00] | fryfrog: | nice looking, but i assume thats not a picture of *yours*? |
| [07:25:00] | rpete: | well it's the exact same :-) |
| [07:26:00] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [07:26:00] | fryfrog: | i like personal pictures of vehicles :) |
| [07:26:00] | rpete: | haven't taken any, only had it a month or so |
| [07:26:00] | fryfrog: | http://fryfrog.com/gallery/SLK |
| [07:26:00] | fryfrog: | thats what i'd get *if* i could afford it :) |
| [07:27:00] | rpete: | ooh, I know a car that would sway you to bmw |
| [07:27:00] | fryfrog: | looks like a nice bike, i've always wanted to ride a motorcycle as my vehicle... but the safeness of them in places like atlanta makes me want to cry :/ |
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| [07:27:00] | rpete: | mclaren f1 road car |
| [07:27:00] | fryfrog: | AHAHAHHA |
| [07:27:00] | fryfrog: | if wishes were pee! |
| [07:28:00] | fryfrog: | in the convertibles, i really like hard-tops |
| [07:28:00] | rpete: | I really like the mazda speed miata, seems like a great car for the money |
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| [07:29:00] | fryfrog: | the one i'd been looking at right this second is a 10th anniversary, 1999 edition |
| [07:29:00] | fryfrog: | 1.8L, 6 speed manual |
| [07:29:00] | rpete: | you can't go wrong really, eh? |
| [07:29:00] | fryfrog: | i'd wanted a 2001 for the 1.8L, 6 speed manual *and* body re-design |
| [07:29:00] | fryfrog: | but i don't recall which of those 3 features was only available in 2001 |
| [07:30:00] | fryfrog: | i *think* it was the 6 speed manual, and that the 10th anniversarry '99 might be the only one before then that has it |
| [07:30:00] | fryfrog: | ~loggrep miata |
| [07:30:00] | fryfrog: | !loggrep miata |
| [07:30:00] | fryfrog: | !help |
| [07:30:00] | fryfrog: | ~help |
| [07:30:00] | fryfrog: | oh well :( |
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| [07:33:00] | rpete: | you know what I think would be a great budget sports car? '91 or so twin turbo 300zx |
| [07:34:00] | rpete: | I've always wanted a 240z but those things are always rust buckets |
| [07:35:00] | fryfrog: | actually, not really looking for a *sports* car |
| [07:35:00] | fryfrog: | i want a big, fun car. she wants a small, economy car |
| [07:35:00] | fryfrog: | so we compromised on small and fun :) |
| [07:36:00] | fryfrog: | i've always wanted a '96 Impalla SS, big ol' 5.7L V8 |
| [07:36:00] | fryfrog: | and get it a supercharger, sir |
| [07:36:00] | fryfrog: | mmmmmmmm, gravey |
| [07:36:00] | ** KarlosII goes nvidia crazy with the new features ** | |
| [07:36:00] | fryfrog: | "Unlike the penis of a small child, Michael Jackson's fate is not in his hands" |
| [07:36:00] | fryfrog: | ahhaha |
| [07:36:00] | KarlosII: | gah |
| [07:37:00] | ** KarlosII goes crazy, I can't get away fromthe MJ crap ** | |
| [07:37:00] | KarlosII: | freaking media |
| [07:37:00] | ** Cardoe_ keeps raping mythfilldatabase. ** | |
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| [07:39:00] | Cardoe: | speed, effiency, half the crap. |
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| [07:39:00] | rpete: | fryfrog, see if she'd like a mazda3 5-door |
| [07:39:00] | rpete: | fryfrog, if she likes manual transmission you'll both be happy |
| [07:40:00] | fryfrog: | neither of us can drive a stick, yet :) |
| [07:40:00] | Cardoe: | https://dev.cardoe.com/myth/wiki/MythFillDatabaseHelp |
| [07:40:00] | rpete: | and you want a miata!? |
| [07:40:00] | fryfrog: | mazda3's are new, yes? |
| [07:41:00] | fryfrog: | well, i should rephrase that |
| [07:41:00] | fryfrog: | i *can* drive a stick, but not well |
| [07:41:00] | fryfrog: | i understand the concept 100%, and in perfectly normal conditions i can do it just fine |
| [07:41:00] | fryfrog: | starting up hill gets me, but only cause i've only driven stick like 3 times |
| [07:42:00] | fryfrog: | i'm looking at the $10–12k range, thats the main limit on a car |
| [07:42:00] | rpete: | oh, hm |
| [07:42:00] | fryfrog: | also, mazda maitas are CR good used car |
| [07:43:00] | fryfrog: | what is a mazda3 vs. mazda6? |
| [07:43:00] | fryfrog: | oh, mazda3 is *brand* new |
| [07:43:00] | rpete: | mazda6 is more hp and more luxury |
| [07:43:00] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [07:43:00] | fryfrog: | wow, 6 speed automatic |
| [07:43:00] | fryfrog: | my mom's SLK has a 5 speed auto and its nice |
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| [07:44:00] | rpete: | mazda3 is very slick for an economy price, but it's well outside 10–12K |
| [07:44:00] | fryfrog: | " A six-speed manual and a light exterior restyling arrived in 2001" |
| [07:45:00] | fryfrog: | so the 1999 10th anniversary is nice for having the 2001 6 speed :) |
| [07:45:00] | fryfrog: | the 2001's are also 12–14k |
| [07:47:00] | fryfrog: | miata tops are manual, that i didn't know |
| [07:48:00] | fryfrog: | and this '99 has no ABS :/ |
| [07:48:00] | rpete: | when the significant other comes into consideration everything changes |
| [07:48:00] | rpete: | I'm surprised she'd even consider a miata |
| [07:49:00] | fryfrog: | why? |
| [07:49:00] | rpete: | my wife seems to thing every car should come with a back seat and at least four doors |
| [07:49:00] | xris: | why would anyone want a miata? |
| [07:49:00] | fryfrog: | fun, small, cheap |
| [07:49:00] | rpete: | xris could be my wife |
| [07:50:00] | ** xris just doesn't like miatas ** | |
| [07:50:00] | fryfrog: | *she* wants a honda civic hybrid |
| [07:50:00] | fryfrog: | *i* want something with a big ol' V8 :) |
| [07:50:00] | xris: | blech. that's not even a good hybrid. |
| [07:50:00] | fryfrog: | no, but its FAR less ugly than the pryus |
| [07:50:00] | xris: | prius is so much nicer than a civic. heh. |
| [07:50:00] | fryfrog: | i agree, its a far better hybrid |
| [07:50:00] | fryfrog: | but it is SOOOOOOOOOO UGLY |
| [07:50:00] | ** xris likes the prius, except for its nasty blind spot ** | |
| [07:51:00] | fryfrog: | its like they took that aztec and made it into a car |
| [07:51:00] | xris: | fryfrog: matter of opinion. civic is bad engineering (there's a reason why ford, et. al. went with toyota's hybrid system over the honda stuff) |
| [07:51:00] | fryfrog: | "humm, lets take this really great hybrid tranny and stuff" other guy : "hey, this body looks AWSOME!" |
| [07:52:00] | xris: | fryfrog: I kind of like how the prius looks. |
| [07:52:00] | xris: | then again, I drive an '87 camry that I paid $500 for. |
| [07:52:00] | fryfrog: | oh, no i totally agree |
| [07:52:00] | fryfrog: | the pryius blows the PANTS off the civic |
| [07:52:00] | fryfrog: | ah, well... |
| [07:52:00] | fryfrog: | you probably like that pontiac aztec :) |
| [07:52:00] | ** xris hates big cars ** | |
| [07:52:00] | fryfrog: | the pryius has to much ass for me |
| [07:53:00] | fryfrog: | daaang, gimme an Impalla SS '96 (not that new *shit*) and i'll be happy :) |
| [07:53:00] | xris: | were I to get a new non-hybrid, maybe a matrix. |
| [07:53:00] | rpete: | wow, discussing which slow-boat hybrid is best |
| [07:53:00] | fryfrog: | sir, i bet you like the focus :/ |
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| [07:53:00] | xris: | but frankly, $500 car suits me well. don't care what happens to it. |
| [07:54:00] | fryfrog: | i'm tired of boring, functional cars |
| [07:54:00] | xris: | rpete: how slow? It's not like you can legally drive much more than 75mph in this state (WA) |
| [07:54:00] | fryfrog: | i want to drive something i get into and enjoy driving |
| [07:54:00] | ** xris would rather just not drive. ** | |
| [07:54:00] | rpete: | I can get to 60 mph in a legal 2.5 seconds thank you very much :-) |
| [07:54:00] | fryfrog: | move to europe :) |
| [07:54:00] | xris: | rpete: so can one of my best friends. in first gear. |
| [07:54:00] | xris: | (granted, it's a motorcycle) |
| [07:55:00] | rpete: | hey, me too |
| [07:55:00] | fryfrog: | the "accepted" speed limit around atlanta is like 80mph in the city |
| [07:55:00] | fryfrog: | 85–90 is accepted outside where its "70" :) |
| [07:55:00] | fryfrog: | it KILLS me to try and drive in other states |
| [07:55:00] | xris: | fryfrog: can get 70–80 on the highways here, but you'll still occasionally get pulled over. |
| [07:55:00] | fryfrog: | i just wanna floor it behind some slow fucker and push em off the road |
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| [07:56:00] | ** xris thinks that people like fryfrog are why he doesn't like to drive. ** | |
| [07:56:00] | rpete: | heh |
| [07:56:00] | ** xris drives the speed limit just to piss off people like fryfrog. ** | |
| [07:56:00] | fryfrog: | 80 is for people in the 2nd left lane |
| [07:56:00] | fryfrog: | left lane is like 85–90 |
| [07:56:00] | xris: | left lane here is carpool. |
| [07:56:00] | fryfrog: | i drive "slow" at 75–80 and get passed *all* the time |
| [07:56:00] | fryfrog: | ah, well some here are too |
| [07:57:00] | fryfrog: | but thats not really the "left lane" |
| [07:57:00] | rpete: | xris, where do you live? |
| [07:57:00] | xris: | rpete: seattle |
| [07:57:00] | rpete: | I know traffic there isn't so different than here |
| [07:57:00] | fryfrog: | even the 18 wheelers are going along at 75–80 if there isn't traffic :) |
| [07:58:00] | fryfrog: | i don't mind slow people neccessarily, its the ones that don't understand the concept of moving over to the right |
| [07:58:00] | xris: | rpete: we have nasty traffic here. but even worse is that despite all of the rain we supposedly get, NO ONE knows how to drive in wet weather. |
| [07:58:00] | fryfrog: | that bug me |
| [07:58:00] | fryfrog: | people in atlanta put their hazard lights on in the rain, ALL THE TIME |
| [07:58:00] | fryfrog: | i hate that |
| [07:58:00] | xris: | that's dumb. |
| [07:58:00] | rpete: | fryfrog, the more you say, the more I think a miata in that price range would be great |
| [07:58:00] | fryfrog: | its like great, now i can see you for sure... but i can't fucking tell when you are gonna change lanes dumbass |
| [07:58:00] | xris: | this is more along the lines of tailgaiting in the rain in the dark, not yielding right of way at stop signs at major intersections, etc. |
| [07:59:00] | rpete: | fryfrog, for instance just the fact your SO would go for it seals the deal |
| [07:59:00] | fryfrog: | ahha |
| [07:59:00] | fryfrog: | i wish i had a machine gun |
| [07:59:00] | fryfrog: | front and tail mounted |
| [07:59:00] | fryfrog: | i'd just pop tires |
| [07:59:00] | fryfrog: | pellet gun might work :) |
| [08:00:00] | fryfrog: | i have a gran marque, BIG ol' granny car |
| [08:00:00] | fryfrog: | people try to change lanes into my gf ALL the time |
| [08:00:00] | rpete: | fryfrog it's very rare that a woman would agree to drive a miata regularly despite its reputation as a girly car |
| [08:00:00] | fryfrog: | how do you miss a car that is probably twice the size of the one you are driving? |
| [08:00:00] | fryfrog: | rpete: man, i think here i see like 80% of people driving miatas are women :) |
| [08:01:00] | bretula: | How the heck do I get mythtv-setup to not cut off the buttons on the bottom of the screen? |
| [08:01:00] | fryfrog: | rpete: the thing that convinced her i think is driving my mom's SLK 320 |
| [08:01:00] | rpete: | fryfrog that's really strange, I never see women driving them |
| [08:01:00] | fryfrog: | open top, 2 person roadster is so damn much fun to drive |
| [08:01:00] | fryfrog: | bretula: deal with it, then fire up mythfrontend and use the over/underscan correction |
| [08:01:00] | xris: | bretula: underscan |
| [08:02:00] | fryfrog: | bretula: i don't know if changing that in mythsetup is possible, but maybe after you do it in frontend it'll take in the backend |
| [08:02:00] | bretula: | fryfrog, How am i supposed to deal with it if I can't even see the buttons to get through setup? |
| [08:02:00] | fryfrog: | if its only the bottom buttons, they are "prev/next/cancel" i think, in that order |
| [08:02:00] | rpete: | fryfrog, here's another idea, let your girlfriend get whatever she wants, then get a bike :-) you'll both be happy |
| [08:02:00] | bretula: | It's weird, even running it from a remote machine at a sufficient resolution, it still cuts off. |
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| [08:03:00] | fryfrog: | dude, i would get killed if i drove a bike |
| [08:03:00] | fryfrog: | i would probably die after 3 weeks |
| [08:03:00] | rpete: | no no, just take a class and go slow at first, a good first bike will cost no more than $2.5k |
| [08:03:00] | fryfrog: | its not *me* that will get me killed |
| [08:04:00] | fryfrog: | its the people who drive in atlanta |
| [08:04:00] | rpete: | I learned in boston, anyone can do it |
| [08:04:00] | fryfrog: | do cars in boston come with blinkers? or people who check before they change lanes? |
| [08:05:00] | rpete: | fryfrog, you're serious? this city is the *worst* |
| [08:05:00] | fryfrog: | hehe |
| [08:05:00] | bretula: | Where are the underscan/overscan controls? |
| [08:06:00] | fryfrog: | hummm |
| [08:06:00] | fryfrog: | not in mythsetup |
| [08:06:00] | fryfrog: | gotta run mythfrontend |
| [08:06:00] | fryfrog: | then, setup, tv settings i think? |
| [08:06:00] | fryfrog: | then maybe playback or general |
| [08:09:00] | bretula: | They're in general, deep in there. |
| [08:09:00] | bretula: | Gotta say, myth is fucking hard to set up |
| [08:10:00] | fryfrog: | dude |
| [08:10:00] | fryfrog: | no question there :) |
| [08:10:00] | fryfrog: | mysql by itself ain't easy :) |
| [08:10:00] | bretula: | I've been trying to get this to work on and off for five months, but never have more than two or three hours at a time to figure out the latest problem. |
| [08:10:00] | fryfrog: | haha |
| [08:10:00] | bretula: | So it's just sit here idle |
| [08:11:00] | fryfrog: | run through it 2 or 3 times |
| [08:11:00] | fryfrog: | i've got it down pat now :) |
| [08:11:00] | bretula: | Now my wife's out of town and I have more time to concentrate, and it's still not going well. |
| [08:11:00] | fryfrog: | still takes a while though :/ |
| [08:11:00] | bretula: | The whole point of me getting into the setup was to try to figure out why I'm getting audio underruns, but the setup interface is unusable due to the buttons being offscreen. This seems so basic, how can EVERYONE be using it like that? |
| [08:13:00] | fryfrog: | undercan |
| [08:13:00] | fryfrog: | underscan |
| [08:13:00] | fryfrog: | hooked to a tv now? |
| [08:13:00] | bretula: | Yes |
| [08:13:00] | fryfrog: | hook to pc monitor, change underscan settings, hook back up to tv |
| [08:13:00] | fryfrog: | its not a myth thing |
| [08:14:00] | fryfrog: | its a tv thing |
| [08:14:00] | bretula: | You've gotta be kidding. |
| [08:14:00] | fryfrog: | tv natrually overscans |
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| [08:14:00] | bretula: | Oh, in that case mebbe I can adjust it with the fglrx control panel |
| [08:14:00] | fryfrog: | worth a try |
| [08:14:00] | fryfrog: | i have to run like 1155x655 on my HD WS TV |
| [08:14:00] | fryfrog: | instead of 1280x720 which is its "native" resolution |
| [08:15:00] | fryfrog: | you could hook a monitor *and* a tv up |
| [08:15:00] | fryfrog: | can you see even a small portion of the buttons? |
| [08:15:00] | bretula: | I've already spent about six or ten hours there |
| [08:15:00] | bretula: | Some screens yes, some screens no... Not enough to read them. |
| [08:15:00] | fryfrog: | it shouldn't be that hard to predict where the buttons are |
| [08:16:00] | fryfrog: | as long as you can see the last option |
| [08:16:00] | bretula: | Maybe I can go down to 640x480 and my TV will handle it better. |
| [08:16:00] | bretula: | Can't see it. |
| [08:16:00] | fryfrog: | i'm almost certain the order (from pressing tab) is next, prev, cancel |
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| [08:16:00] | fryfrog: | but the buttons are layed out "prev / next / cancel" |
| [08:16:00] | bretula: | It's not the same on every screen |
| [08:16:00] | fryfrog: | yes it is |
| [08:16:00] | fryfrog: | cept the last |
| [08:16:00] | bretula: | I was just in the video card setup screen and it was different. |
| [08:16:00] | fryfrog: | then i think next or cancel becomes "finish" |
| [08:17:00] | fryfrog: | try 640 :) |
| [08:17:00] | fryfrog: | you can also just set X to use like 600x400 |
| [08:17:00] | bretula: | I end up creating more and more cards, because I can't even see how to delete them or get out of creating one by cancelling. |
| [08:17:00] | fryfrog: | or if you are doing 800x600, then try like 750x550 |
| [08:17:00] | fryfrog: | bretula: press "m" or the right key, there isn't actually a visible button to delete |
| [08:17:00] | bretula: | Lovely |
| [08:18:00] | fryfrog: | i learned that like a month ago, until a month ago i had like 2 extra cards and a profile or two :) |
| [08:18:00] | ** xris praises pre/post roll.... stupid sat signal dropped for half-second during a show intro, but I picked enough up at the end of another show to stitch it together. ** | |
| [08:18:00] | nixbased: | whats the proper make command for mythtv? I know it has to do with mythtv.pro |
| [08:18:00] | bretula: | Wow, I was in 640x480... I have to try dropping it to 512x384 |
| [08:18:00] | fryfrog: | i think "./configure && make? |
| [08:18:00] | fryfrog: | or is it qmake mythtv.pro? |
| [08:19:00] | xris: | qmake |
| [08:19:00] | xris: | I think |
| [08:19:00] | nixbased: | qmake doesnt seem to be on the box but mythtv 0.17 is |
| [08:19:00] | fryfrog: | i though *recent* versions just included that as part of the make or ./configure process |
| [08:19:00] | fryfrog: | qmake is a part of the qt-devel packages |
| [08:19:00] | fryfrog: | (or just qt if you are using a source based distro) |
| [08:19:00] | xris: | fryfrog: dunno |
| [08:20:00] | nixbased: | im using Ubuntu |
| [08:20:00] | xris: | nixbased: qt-devel |
| [08:20:00] | xris: | or whatever the package is called in ub. |
| [08:21:00] | fryfrog: | puntu is deb, yes? |
| [08:21:00] | ** xris is down to four total recorded shows on the mythbox. heh. ** | |
| [08:21:00] | xris: | fryfrog: basically |
| [08:21:00] | nixbased: | i just think its strange the package isnt on the box even tho mythtv is installed already lol |
| [08:22:00] | nixbased: | but ty very much ill install now |
| [08:22:00] | fryfrog: | think about it for a second |
| [08:22:00] | fryfrog: | and you may realize why |
| [08:22:00] | xris: | nixbased: qt-devel is for compiling. you have binaries. |
| [08:22:00] | fryfrog: | qt-devel is required to *compile* mythtv |
| [08:23:00] | fryfrog: | a mythtv package is binary and does not require compiling |
| [08:23:00] | nixbased: | xris no i dont |
| [08:23:00] | bretula: | fryfrog, changing resolutions did nothing for me. Even running mythfrontend or mythtvsetup remotely, and letting it take over my whole 1400x1050 screen, it scales everything such that the buttons are *still*not visible. |
| [08:23:00] | nixbased: | we dont use binaries lol |
| [08:24:00] | fryfrog: | ubuntu is source based? |
| [08:24:00] | nixbased: | no but just because something is availible as a bianary doesnt mean you always use it |
| [08:25:00] | nixbased: | ive found some binaries have some configs done i dont like so with something we use as a dev project we compile from src |
| [08:25:00] | fryfrog: | okay, so you are compiling from source |
| [08:25:00] | nixbased: | yep |
| [08:26:00] | fryfrog: | and is this a source package from your ubuntu distro? or did you just get the 0.18.1 source from mythtv.org? |
| [08:26:00] | nixbased: | i just got the box from my boss who installed 0.17 (from src as the src is on the box) was just surprised he removed the needed package for qmale is all |
| [08:26:00] | nixbased: | grabbed it from myth |
| [08:26:00] | fryfrog: | ahhhhhh, okay now that *is* wierd :) |
| [08:27:00] | nixbased: | qmake* |
| [08:27:00] | fryfrog: | it could be that qmake is just not in the path |
| [08:27:00] | fryfrog: | might try "slocate -u && slocate qmake" |
| [08:27:00] | nixbased: | ya ill look im gonna go play with it now thnks again |
| [08:27:00] | fryfrog: | or maybe apt-cache search qt-devel will help ya |
| [08:27:00] | fryfrog: | np, good luck |
| [08:27:00] | nixbased: | ty |
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| [08:32:00] | bretula: | I think I have to give up and chuck the box. I have buffer underruns and live tv freezes half a second in, and I can't even adjust the settings because I have so much cut off on the screen. I've spent two hours trying to figure out hot to get it to not lose so much in overscan, meanwhile never getting back the actual buffer underrun problem. |
| [08:33:00] | bretula: | I think I'm done... In fifteen years of figuring everything out for myself under Linux, nothing has been so impossible as troubleshooting Myth. I'm humbled and angry all at the same time. |
| [08:34:00] | fryfrog: | myth's a bitch :) |
| [08:34:00] | fryfrog: | when DTV switches to MPEG4, i'm prolly just gonna get one of their HD PVRs |
| [08:35:00] | fryfrog: | and get rid of comcast and myth all in one blow :) |
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| [08:37:00] | nixbased: | fry you will probably lose some features if you do that |
| [08:37:00] | bretula: | ...but regain sanity! |
| [08:40:00] | nixbased: | true, ill let you in on something im working with a group called starnix to rework some myth things and put out a automated install for this stuff then sell the box's getting the hardware requirements down and the right configs is a lil teduious lol |
| [08:43:00] | fryfrog: | i really only use myth to record tv |
| [08:43:00] | fryfrog: | so *i* wouldn't lose anything but perhaps playing my music collection |
| [08:43:00] | fryfrog: | but even then, winamp on one of my 4 windows pcs would work fine for that |
| [08:43:00] | fryfrog: | and my xbox with XBMC works fine too |
| [08:44:00] | nixbased: | windows.....why windows? |
| [08:45:00] | nixbased: | im just curious |
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| [08:48:00] | bretula: | Have to admit, with all the crap I'm going through for MythTV, MediaPortal looks might enticing... And I haven't run Windows as a desktop in about five years. |
| [08:50:00] | nixbased: | there are several other options to myth but try knoppmyth b4 u go to MediaPortal |
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| [08:52:00] | nixbased: | gotta admit though their stuff looks pretty user friendly |
| [08:52:00] | nobosuke: | Hei! does anybody know if a nagravision decoder module exists for mythtv? |
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| [10:53:00] | bretula: | The most useful link on the entire planet: http://www.users.on.net/~jani/dvico-mythtv-10.html#ss10.1 |
| [11:00:00] | laga: | is this supposed to be incorporated into the main mythtv docs? |
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| [12:21:00] | veritanuda: | Afternoon/morning all.. |
| [12:22:00] | veritanuda: | Anyone know much about MythNews? |
| [12:22:00] | exempla_: | nixbased: I just switched back to MythTV after an affair with Windoze PVR's over the last year and a half. I finally got sick of the problems that because of dependency on proprietary software, I couldn't fix. MythTV is a *much* more mature product than MediaPortal. I would consider MediaPortal to be similar in many ways to where MythTV was 2 years ago when I gave up on the LinuxPVR thing. ie, lots of promise, but |
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| [12:33:00] | brejc8: | veritanuda: What about mythnews? |
| [12:34:00] | brejc8: | veritanuda: Are some of the sources not downloading? |
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| [12:45:00] | veritanuda: | Oh sorry.. MythNews: NewsEngine: Failed to set content from xmlfile |
| [12:46:00] | veritanuda: | That applies to almost all the BBC one etc.. |
| [12:46:00] | veritanuda: | So i am guessing it is not parsing things right? |
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| [13:10:00] | brejc8: | veritanuda: remove them and reinsert the bbc ones. The address has changed |
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| [13:30:00] | veritanuda: | ahhh ok.. cheers... |
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| [14:57:00] | FrereJacques: | Hello everyone! |
| [14:57:00] | FrereJacques: | Maybe someone can help me? I want to use mythtv, but it doesn't work. "Connection to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543. Connection timed out." MySQL seems to be running and there seems to be a "mythconverg"-database in MySQL. My system: Debian Sarge, bttv878, PAL (germany). |
| [14:57:00] | FrereJacques: | What can I do? |
| [14:58:00] | Tommck: | FrereJacques – is mythbackend running? |
| [15:00:00] | FrereJacques: | Tommck: Oh, no, it wasn't. But it doesn't start: "Authentication Rejected reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed." |
| [15:00:00] | Tommck: | hmm... well... you have to get mythbackend to start in order to have the front end work, n'est-ce pas? :) |
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| [15:01:00] | FrereJacques: | Tommck: Well, of course. But how do I do the authentication? How does the backend know the password for the "mythtv"-user in MySQL? |
| [15:02:00] | Tommck: | I am just guessing here, but it sounds like there's a problem with your MySQL installation... mythbackend tries to log in to mysql when it starts... that's probably what is failing |
| [15:02:00] | Tommck: | FrereJacques – it's in the mthtv-setup program. |
| [15:02:00] | Tommck: | I think |
| [15:02:00] | Tommck: | it's been a while since I installed |
| [15:03:00] | FrereJacques: | Tommck: mythtv-setup (run as user 'mythtv') starts with a menu: 'allgemeines' (common), 'tv-karten' (tv-cards), 'videoquellen' (video sources) etc |
| [15:04:00] | Tommck: | I assume it would be the first one. |
| [15:04:00] | fryfrog: | actually, i think the mysql user/pass settings are in the mysql.txt or mythtv.txt somewhere |
| [15:04:00] | FrereJacques: | Tommck: In "common" I can choose ip adress, server port, server's status port, master server ip adress and master server port. that's all. |
| [15:04:00] | fryfrog: | you'll of course have to CREATE a mythtv user for mysql and give it access to the mythconverg db |
| [15:05:00] | Tommck: | fryfrog – that's where they're stored, but I thought the setup program saved them |
| [15:05:00] | Tommck: | fryfrog good point... |
| [15:05:00] | Tommck: | FrereJacques – did you create the mythtv user for your database? |
| [15:05:00] | fryfrog: | i don't recall them being in mythsetup, but its been a while since i visited each setting, so who knows :) |
| [15:05:00] | Tommck: | fryfrog – true... now that I think about it, it is probably not in there. Though I have no idea why it isn't.... |
| [15:06:00] | Tommck: | it certainly seems like it should be able to set the user/password there |
| [15:06:00] | FrereJacques: | Tommck: "mysql -u mythtv -p" works, I can input my password and get a "mysql> "-prompt. |
| [15:06:00] | Tommck: | FrereJacques – and there should be a mysql.txt file somewhere (wherever mythtv's docs go) that has the same user and password in it (if I am remembering correctly) |
| [15:07:00] | Tommck: | if you did not use "mythtv" as your password, you have to change it... someone correct me if I'm giving bad information |
| [15:07:00] | fryfrog: | what about "mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg" |
| [15:07:00] | FrereJacques: | Ah, there's a wrong password in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt. Wait a moment ... |
| [15:07:00] | fryfrog: | Tommck: sounds like you got it :) |
| [15:08:00] | Tommck: | cool |
| [15:10:00] | FrereJacques: | Hm. I changed the mysql.txt an restarted mysql. Then (as root): "/etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart". Result: "Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed." :-( |
| [15:11:00] | Tommck: | that kind of error makes me think something's wrong with the mysql installation or something... I have no idea |
| [15:11:00] | Tommck: | what do you have for the server IP in the mysql.txt? Is it correct? |
| [15:11:00] | fryfrog: | FrereJacques: can you check /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log? |
| [15:12:00] | fryfrog: | FrereJacques: that for some reason doesn't exactly sound like an error that mysql would spit out, though i could be wrong |
| [15:12:00] | fryfrog: | FrereJacques: what IP does mythbackend point to? |
| [15:12:00] | fryfrog: | is it 127.0.0.1 / localhost? |
| [15:12:00] | fryfrog: | or is it your "real" ip? |
| [15:12:00] | fryfrog: | bah, Tommck got that one out first |
| [15:12:00] | FrereJacques: | localhost |
| [15:12:00] | fryfrog: | hummm |
| [15:13:00] | fryfrog: | did you check the log file/ |
| [15:13:00] | fryfrog: | ? |
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| [15:13:00] | FrereJacques: | In the log-file: "No capture cards are defined in the database". So maybe I should run "mythtv-setup" again. Please wait a moment ... |
| [15:17:00] | FrereJacques: | Running "mythtv-setup" I get the error "MythTV couldn't find any channell information for your provider. Please see terminal windows for further information." when adding a video source with XMLTV Script "Germany (tvtoday)". The terminal windows says: "sh: line 1: tv_grab_de_tvtoday: command not found" |
| [15:18:00] | Tommck: | I believe that has to be downloaded separately, but I may be wrong |
| [15:18:00] | stoffel: | yeah, it's part of xmltv |
| [15:19:00] | FrereJacques: | ok, I'm doing "apt-get install xmltv" ... |
| [15:20:00] | fryfrog: | FrereJacques: you can't start mythbackend until you've run mythsetup |
| [15:21:00] | FrereJacques: | fryfrog: Ok. But actually I can't run mythtv-setup without errors. Well, I'm now trying it with "xmltv" being installed ... |
| [15:22:00] | FrereJacques: | A, I don't get the above error any more, MythTV trys to get a list of available cahnels ... that looks better ... |
| [15:23:00] | fryfrog: | super! |
| [15:25:00] | FrereJacques: | mythtv-setup seems to be ok, so I start "/etc/cron.daily/mythtv-backend" as "root" ... it's doing something ("new db connection" etc.) ... |
| [15:26:00] | FrereJacques: | Wow! MythTV seems to work! Thank you very much! |
| [15:27:00] | Tommck: | :) |
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| [16:16:00] | JonK: | hello |
| [16:22:00] | Tommck: | JonK – friendly advice: just ask a question... |
| [16:26:00] | JonK: | sure |
| [16:26:00] | JonK: | trying to get a pvr-500 to work, am not succeeding, any suggestions? |
| [16:28:00] | Tommck: | JonK – you need to actually supply some information... like what have you had problems with? What have you tried? Is there an error message? We're not just sitting here to walk people through their whole installation |
| [16:28:00] | JonK: | just trying to start a dialog — giving me some questions like you did is a great place to start -- |
| [16:29:00] | JonK: | i think ivtv is initializing the cards correctly, i can link you to the dmesg details if you'd like |
| [16:29:00] | Tommck: | what problem are you having? |
| [16:29:00] | JonK: | but $cat /dev/video1 and cat /dev/video2 gives static |
| [16:29:00] | Tommck: | what inputs are you using? |
| [16:30:00] | JonK: | the coaxial cable |
| [16:30:00] | Tommck: | so, the cat command gives you static video... does it give you audio? |
| [16:30:00] | JonK: | i dont think so |
| [16:31:00] | Tommck: | but it records an mpeg file? |
| [16:31:00] | JonK: | and actually, I dont think the static that im seeing is really "static video" |
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| [16:31:00] | Tommck: | you are doing a "cat /dev/video1 > test.mpg" ? |
| [16:31:00] | JonK: | it alternates between a black background with a pile of interference |
| [16:31:00] | JonK: | and just solid black |
| [16:31:00] | JonK: | well, "> foo" |
| [16:31:00] | JonK: | but yes |
| [16:32:00] | Tommck: | if it records a file, then you've gotten somewhere |
| [16:32:00] | JonK: | it does, there is something being written do the /dev/video1 and 2 files, but it's certainly not what i want |
| [16:33:00] | Tommck: | have you used ivtvctl to set the inputs? |
| [16:33:00] | JonK: | I have not, I was actually wondering if that was the issue |
| [16:33:00] | Tommck: | probably |
| [16:34:00] | Tommck: | you'll have to set the inputs and the sound inputs with that... that will help you test. |
| [16:34:00] | JonK: | i couldn't find a good example that pointed out doing this, or what the proper parameters would be |
| [16:34:00] | Tommck: | ivtvctl --help |
| [16:35:00] | Tommck: | do this: |
| [16:35:00] | Tommck: | ivtvctl -d /dev/video1 -a |
| [16:35:00] | Tommck: | this will print all the info about that "card" (since it's 2 cards as far as ivtv is concerned) |
| [16:35:00] | Tommck: | it will show the current settings and the options |
| [16:36:00] | JonK: | hang on, need to to open shell to the box |
| [16:36:00] | Tommck: | then you can set them so that they are correct |
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| [16:40:00] | jemarcks: | are there any transcode gurus here? I have this error [encode_ffmpeg] mpa codec not found ! |
| [16:40:00] | jemarcks: | [transcode] warning : (encoder.c) audio export module error: init failed |
| [16:40:00] | jemarcks: | [transcode] critical: failed to init encoder |
| [16:41:00] | ** Tommck has never transcoded anything... that's why big hard drives were invented :) ** | |
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| [16:43:00] | Tommck: | JonK – it's taking quite a while to open that shell :) |
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| [16:43:00] | JonK: | sorry got on the phone |
| [16:44:00] | Tommck: | np :) |
| [16:44:00] | JonK: | ok — post here? what to do with the output? |
| [16:44:00] | JonK: | am seeing "ioctl: VIDIOC_G_OUTPUT failed" |
| [16:45:00] | Tommck: | me too... ignore it |
| [16:45:00] | Tommck: | it's for PVR350s, I think |
| [16:45:00] | JonK: | i have a 350 in the box as well, but that should not be touching video1 |
| [16:45:00] | JonK: | its on video0 |
| [16:45:00] | Tommck: | right... that's fine |
| [16:46:00] | Tommck: | see the entry for "ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUMINPUT" ? |
| [16:46:00] | Tommck: | that lists all the inputs on the card |
| [16:46:00] | Tommck: | actually... |
| [16:46:00] | Tommck: | it lists the enumeration to be used for the setting.. |
| [16:46:00] | jemarcks: | tommck, i need to transcode some files because the wife wants to save her shows on dvd |
| [16:46:00] | Tommck: | you would want #6 on this card, I think... |
| [16:47:00] | Tommck: | thus, you would do "ivtvctl -d /dev/video1 -p 6 .... " |
| [16:47:00] | Tommck: | there is also a "VIDIOC_ENUMAUDIO" that tells you the audio enumeration... |
| [16:47:00] | JonK: | posted to sparqy.com/fooset.txt |
| [16:48:00] | Tommck: | OK.. input is 6... that's good (from the VIDIO_G_INPUT) section |
| [16:48:00] | JonK: | I see it |
| [16:48:00] | Tommck: | tuner audio is also correct |
| [16:48:00] | Tommck: | are you in the US? |
| [16:48:00] | JonK: | y\ |
| [16:48:00] | Tommck: | was that a yes or a "why?" |
| [16:48:00] | JonK: | it was a yes |
| [16:49:00] | Tommck: | ok... well, it looks like it's set up properly... |
| [16:49:00] | Tommck: | do you know that the input is connected and has signal on it? |
| [16:49:00] | Tommck: | if so, I think you need to use ptune to change it to a working channel |
| [16:49:00] | JonK: | yes, becuase when I move the coaxial cable from the pvr-500 input to the pvr350 input i get tunable viedeo channels |
| [16:49:00] | Tommck: | I think ptune is a script or something... I don't have it because I don't use tuner inputs |
| [16:50:00] | JonK: | maybe tune channels for the pvr500? you mean? |
| [16:50:00] | Tommck: | JonK – yeah... tell the tuner to set a certain channel |
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| [16:50:00] | EricAnderson: | Is there some sort of magic required to get mythbackend to transcode files!? mythweb's backend status keeps telling me all my transcode jobs fail, but I cannot find the reason. |
| [16:50:00] | Tommck: | JonK – here's a Wiki entry about ptune... http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-index.php?page=ptune |
| [16:51:00] | JonK: | is the transcode daemon running?" |
| [16:51:00] | Tommck: | EricAnderson – sorry.. no idea about transcoding |
| [16:51:00] | Tommck: | JonK – no idea if that wiki is up to date... |
| [16:51:00] | EricAnderson: | JonK: I dont know? |
| [16:52:00] | EricAnderson: | whats the app name for the transcode deamon? |
| [16:54:00] | JonK: | could they be cancelling each other out /dev/video2 is using the same input |
| [16:54:00] | JonK: | mtd |
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| [16:54:00] | JonK: | transcode daemon == mtd |
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| [16:55:00] | EricAnderson: | Nope, is that a seperate package, or does it come with mythtv?? |
| [16:55:00] | Tommck: | jonK – I don't know... I actually am only using one input of my PVR-500 right now :) |
| [16:55:00] | JonK: | 1 input, but both tuners? |
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| [16:56:00] | Tommck: | JonK – try changing the second device to a different tuner if that's the case... but I would _definitely_ get ptune to work... |
| [16:56:00] | JonK: | i'll have to do that when i get home later, i dont have the coaxial cable plugged into the pvr-500 right now |
| [16:56:00] | JonK: | it's in the 350 |
| [16:56:00] | Tommck: | JonK – you are probably on channel 3 or something that doesn't have any TV on it... you need to change the channel to something watchable |
| [16:56:00] | Tommck: | have you tried it in MythTV yet? |
| [16:56:00] | JonK: | yes, and nothing |
| [16:57:00] | JonK: | i'm telling you though, it does not look like a "no signal found" snow |
| [16:57:00] | Tommck: | JonK – you have to make sure you choose the right video inputs when you set it up though |
| [16:57:00] | Tommck: | the same stuff it's set up for now needs to be in MythTV |
| [16:57:00] | JonK: | i have three card settings |
| [16:57:00] | JonK: | /dev/video0 for the 350 |
| [16:57:00] | JonK: | video1 for the 500 |
| [16:57:00] | JonK: | video2 for the 500 |
| [16:58:00] | JonK: | and the inputs as tuner0 and tuner1 |
| [16:58:00] | Tommck: | right... but don't you map that to the connection too? svideo/tuner/etc? |
| [16:58:00] | Tommck: | ok |
| [16:58:00] | Tommck: | shouldn't that be tuner1 and tuner2? |
| [16:58:00] | Tommck: | wouldn't the 350 be tuner0? |
| [16:58:00] | JonK: | no option to do so, and no i dont think so, it's tuner0 and tuner1 for the video 1 or video 2 cards |
| [16:59:00] | JonK: | video0 only has tuner0 becuase it has only one tuner |
| [16:59:00] | Tommck: | what does the 350 use then? |
| [16:59:00] | JonK: | tuner0 for dev video 0 |
| [16:59:00] | Tommck: | oh... I thought it related to device names.. no? |
| [16:59:00] | JonK: | there is no tuner2 to select |
| [16:59:00] | Tommck: | ah |
| [16:59:00] | JonK: | maps from Card-->Tuner |
| [17:00:00] | Tommck: | and neither "card" is working on the 500? |
| [17:00:00] | JonK: | no |
| [17:00:00] | Tommck: | right |
| [17:00:00] | Tommck: | hmm... weird |
| [17:00:00] | JonK: | actually, i may not have checked the last possibility fully |
| [17:00:00] | JonK: | myth selects the first availble tuner to watch live tv |
| [17:00:00] | JonK: | i've never forced it down to tuner 1 on the 500 (tuner3) |
| [17:00:00] | Tommck: | JonK – yeah... then you have to switch cards to try them all |
| [17:00:00] | Tommck: | you should do that |
| [17:00:00] | JonK: | pull the 350? |
| [17:01:00] | Tommck: | JonK – no... I don't think so... |
| [17:01:00] | JonK: | good, I can't do that from here |
| [17:01:00] | Tommck: | Just hit the "switch card" button.. |
| [17:01:00] | Tommck: | "c" ? I can't remember |
| [17:01:00] | JonK: | ah -- |
| [17:01:00] | JonK: | didn't now I could do that |
| [17:01:00] | Tommck: | and it's "y" to switch inputs on a card ? |
| [17:01:00] | Tommck: | yeah |
| [17:01:00] | JonK: | but I'd be much happier getting the "cat /dev/video1" to work first |
| [17:02:00] | JonK: | and then f'ing witt myth |
| [17:02:00] | Tommck: | JonK – if you have ptune installed, use it |
| [17:02:00] | Tommck: | change it to a known working channel |
| [17:02:00] | JonK: | i can, but again can't test it |
| [17:02:00] | Tommck: | right... |
| [17:02:00] | Tommck: | test that first |
| [17:02:00] | Tommck: | it's probably the issue :) |
| [17:03:00] | JonK: | i'm skeptical, tuning different channels in myth was no help, but you're right I'll have to try that first once I get home |
| [17:03:00] | EricAnderson: | JonK: So, I have the mtd app on my system, but its not running |
| [17:03:00] | JonK: | then how do you expect to transcode anything? |
| [17:03:00] | EricAnderson: | I dont know, Im on gentoo... shouldnt that kind of thing be included in the init scripts!? |
| [17:03:00] | Tommck: | JonK – you had lots of "moving parts" when you're in mythtv... you were assuming everything else was set up right and that it was on the right tuner... |
| [17:03:00] | JonK: | i know |
| [17:03:00] | Tommck: | if you use ptune, you'll be lower level... less question marks |
| [17:04:00] | JonK: | that's why i want to get it working first with cat.... |
| [17:04:00] | JonK: | once i can grab raw video |
| [17:04:00] | Tommck: | JonK – right... so go home and try ptune first |
| [17:05:00] | JonK: | but I want to fix it remotely ! |
| [17:05:00] | Tommck: | I didn't have any of these issues because I'm using svideo :) |
| [17:05:00] | Tommck: | you said you don't even have the cable hooked up, right? |
| [17:05:00] | JonK: | that's why tuning a particular channel may not be very useful at this time |
| [17:06:00] | Tommck: | right... which is why it's impossible for you to fix from remotely anyway... |
| [17:06:00] | Tommck: | how are you going to have it working if it doesn't even have input data |
| [17:06:00] | Tommck: | ? |
| [17:06:00] | JonK: | that's testing for working, not fixing |
| [17:06:00] | Tommck: | huh? |
| [17:06:00] | JonK: | if we found something wrong in the ivtvctl we'd fix it |
| [17:06:00] | Tommck: | right, but it seems like that's OK, so nothing actually needs to be fixed |
| [17:07:00] | JonK: | if ther was something wrong in the /etc/modprobe.d file |
| [17:07:00] | JonK: | we'd fix it |
| [17:07:00] | JonK: | but now we're down to things I can't do here |
| [17:07:00] | JonK: | :( |
| [17:07:00] | Tommck: | it was your bad assumption that hooking up the coax would automatically give you video without tuning it to a channel that gets us where we are now :) |
| [17:07:00] | JonK: | maybe i should get some work donw |
| [17:07:00] | JonK: | done |
| [17:07:00] | Tommck: | hehe... yeah.. |
| [17:07:00] | Tommck: | good luck with that when you get home |
| [17:07:00] | JonK: | thx |
| [17:07:00] | Tommck: | np |
| [17:07:00] | JonK: | will come back for more help, in all liklihood |
| [17:08:00] | JonK: | still need to get firefly remote working on frontend |
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| [17:08:00] | JonK: | and dvd/cd ripping working |
| [17:08:00] | EricAnderson: | JonK: Well, now Im running mtd, and trasncoding still fails |
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| [17:08:00] | Tommck: | ahh... I just use an IR keyboard... then programmed it in my universal remote |
| [17:08:00] | JonK: | try running it as a daemon |
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| [17:08:00] | Tommck: | slick option |
| [17:08:00] | JonK: | but I already spent $50 on the firefly remote! |
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| [17:21:00] | ledhed: | anyone here running FC4 test 3? |
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| [17:29:00] | JonK: | tommyk? |
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| [17:32:00] | JonK: | hello, I need some help with a pvr-500 ivtv is not setting the tunner correctly |
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| [17:35:00] | JonK: | freaking trillian keeps killing my connection |
| [17:35:00] | JonK: | i need help with a pvr-500 ivtv does not appear to correctly set the tuner types |
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| [17:39:00] | JonK: | hello |
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| [17:47:00] | EricAnderson: | JonK: I ran it as a deamon... still nothing |
| [17:48:00] | EricAnderson: | The mtd log doesnt show anything ahppening either |
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| [17:51:00] | JonK: | hmm... |
| [17:52:00] | JonK: | what error are you getting when you try to transcode something |
| [17:52:00] | JonK: | (and with some candor, I've rather new to this, so don't know whether I can be of any help) |
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| [18:08:00] | ledhed: | does Mythtv Frontend Compile and run on Windows via cygwin? |
| [18:08:00] | Cardoe: | anyone using firewire? |
| [18:08:00] | ledhed: | for what? |
| [18:09:00] | JonK: | I thought I saw a refrence to a version of mythfrontend ported to windows |
| [18:10:00] | laga: | winmyth? |
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| [18:10:00] | JonK: | for cygwin, you'll still need an X server |
| [18:11:00] | JonK: | i don't think it provides you with one |
| [18:11:00] | Randall64: | So how do you recover mythtv when the machine runs out of disk space? It doesn't display any recordings where the list would normally be. |
| [18:11:00] | Randall64: | (I restarted mysql and mythtv-backend) |
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| [18:14:00] | ledhed: | how does the commercial flagging on Myth compare to say ReplayTV? |
| [18:15:00] | ledhed: | I would say that the Replay is about 85% to 95% accurate |
| [18:16:00] | Randall64: | I'd say mythtv does better than that. |
| [18:16:00] | ledhed: | Cool |
| [18:16:00] | ledhed: | does it do it on the fly? |
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| [18:17:00] | rtsai: | jonk: iirc cywgin does give you an X server |
| [18:17:00] | Randall64: | No, it does detection as a job post-recording. |
| [18:17:00] | Randall64: | Then does whatever you tell it to during playback. |
| [18:18:00] | GeckoFiend: | JonK Myth has a DirectX output layer |
| [18:18:00] | ledhed: | ah. Replay does it on the fly. so if you pause in the middle of live tv it will commercial skip upon playing again |
| [18:18:00] | JonK: | cool |
| [18:18:00] | Randall64: | I wish mythtv would just do the Right Thing when it disk space gets low, instead of just corrupting itself. |
| [18:18:00] | JonK: | thought you might have to use the one from starnet |
| [18:19:00] | rtsai: | JonK: if you have the CPU, you can do commflag on the fly |
| [18:19:00] | GeckoFiend: | Randall64 you know.... if you turn on auto expire it "does the right thing", and Myth doesn't corrupt itself at all. kinda hard for it to do that |
| [18:19:00] | GeckoFiend: | mysql might corrupt stuff... |
| [18:20:00] | Randall64: | GeckoFiend: The Right Thing in my opinion is to simply stop recording. |
| [18:20:00] | Randall64: | That seems pretty reasonable. |
| [18:22:00] | GeckoFiend: | there's settings for all of that stuff. like minimum disk space before starting a recording etc |
| [18:23:00] | Randall64: | Then the user is left to calculate (guess) how big the largest recording could be. |
| [18:23:00] | ledhed: | rtsai, where can I set Myth to Flag on the fly? |
| [18:25:00] | GeckoFiend: | Randall64 it's not exactly hard, or you can turn on auto expire and never have to worry about it, or buy bigger disks. We're not going to waste development time rpotecting people who refuse to use the tools rpovided to them |
| [18:25:00] | JonK: | i've never used the x server in cygwin, I'm going to have to give it a try |
| [18:25:00] | JonK: | buying bigger disks would onlypostpone the problem |
| [18:25:00] | Randall64: | Gecko: I propose that it's not that much work to safeguard against corruption, and what JonK said. |
| [18:26:00] | GeckoFiend: | well yeah, if you don't properly set the thresholds. |
| [18:26:00] | Randall64: | What if the machine actually does other things, that uses disk space? |
| [18:26:00] | GeckoFiend: | and really, all you have to do is do like I do and say "there must be at least 10g free" and then leave it alone |
| [18:26:00] | JonK: | bah, all it could ever do is overwrite my dedicated partition for myth recordings anyway |
| [18:26:00] | GeckoFiend: | Randall64 you mean like most people |
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| [18:27:00] | rtsai: | ledhed: "realtime" commflag option is in mythtv-setup |
| [18:27:00] | GeckoFiend: | peoples myth boxes? |
| [18:27:00] | JonK: | if you don't have it on a sepearte partition then well, you ahve other problems we should be discussing |
| [18:27:00] | ledhed: | rtsai, thatnks |
| [18:27:00] | JonK: | i just have everything on autoexpire anyway |
| [18:27:00] | ledhed: | does the flagging occur on the backend or on the playing fromtend? |
| [18:27:00] | JonK: | what's the objection to just using autoexpire |
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| [18:28:00] | rtsai: | ledhed: you can configure which machines can run commflagging |
| [18:28:00] | Randall64: | autoexpire and lose recordings you haven't watched?! |
| [18:28:00] | JonK: | heavens!! |
| [18:28:00] | rtsai: | ledhed: but i only have a single fe/be, so i'm not familiar with configuring that |
| [18:28:00] | JonK: | alert the military! |
| [18:28:00] | ledhed: | rtsai, cool thanks |
| [18:28:00] | Randall64: | indeed, my priorities are, in fact, different than yours! |
| [18:28:00] | Randall64: | OMFG |
| [18:28:00] | rtsai: | Randall64: it's either autoexpire and lose old recordings, or don't autoexpire and lose new recordings ... |
| [18:28:00] | Randall64: | rtsai: right, I'd rather have that choice, and mine would be the latter |
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| [18:29:00] | JonK: | I doubt i watch even a third of what I record |
| [18:29:00] | Randall64: | fascinating |
| [18:30:00] | JonK: | and cant you flag an individual recording against autoexpire? |
| [18:30:00] | Randall64: | yes, what's your point? |
| [18:30:00] | EricAnderson: | JonK: Sorry I stepped out |
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| [18:31:00] | EricAnderson: | The only error I get is when I look at the backend status in mythweb |
| [18:31:00] | JonK: | if you have something you don't want to autoexpire, flag it |
| [18:31:00] | EricAnderson: | it just says that the transcode errored |
| [18:31:00] | rtsai: | Randall64: anyway, what's wrong with setting up disk threshold, like gecko suggested? |
| [18:31:00] | Randall64: | Anything I record, I want to watch, so I'd have to flag everything if I changed the default to autoexpire. |
| [18:31:00] | EricAnderson: | Nothing in the mythbackend.log... nothing in the damn mysql db |
| [18:31:00] | JonK: | i don''t like not using all available space |
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| [18:32:00] | JonK: | now, onto something important, :) can anyone help me with the settings for a pvr500, i cant get ivtv to load correctly |
| [18:32:00] | rtsai: | JonK: not me |
| [18:32:00] | Randall64: | rtsai: Say I guess correctly (or overshoot a lot of be certain) that the max size of a recorded program is 3GB, then another program writes 2GB after mythtv has started recording: blam, mythtv and mysql engage in an orgy of corruption that leaves mythtv unusable. |
| [18:33:00] | JonK: | you say that like it was a bad thing |
| [18:33:00] | JonK: | last time i attended an orgy of corruption, well lets just say i left smiling |
| [18:33:00] | Randall64: | alas, I have no way to watch the 20 episodes of $show that are really there now |
| [18:33:00] | JonK: | what do you have writing 2gb to your myth recordings partition? |
| [18:34:00] | Randall64: | That's not your concern ;) |
| [18:34:00] | rtsai: | yeh, docs do recommend putting myth recordings on its own partition ... (namely, separately from your mysql data) |
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| [18:35:00] | JonK: | and use an LVM partition for it, |
| [18:35:00] | JonK: | after setting up my intial setup with 20gb for the viedeo partition (just to get the system working) |
| [18:35:00] | Randall64: | I probably will repartition when debian grows up and I can wipe out fedora. |
| [18:36:00] | JonK: | i added a 300gb drive to the partition in about 10 minutes |
| [18:36:00] | JonK: | and im going to add another one soon |
| [18:36:00] | ledhed: | storage question. I have an 8port SATA 3ware RAID card. I want to add another driver to the array (Online Capacity Expansion). Once the Array has grown I need to resize the Partition. The current array is setup as a Single LVM Partition Formatted XFS. Do I change the size via LVM & XFS_Grow or just with LVM? |
| [18:36:00] | ledhed: | drive not driver |
| [18:37:00] | GeckoFiend: | ledhed both |
| [18:37:00] | GeckoFiend: | first you lvextend onto the extra disk then grow the fs onto the extra space on the lvnm |
| [18:37:00] | ledhed: | ok thanks, anyone know of a good LVM & or XFS_Grow HowTo? |
| [18:38:00] | JonK: | there is a linux lvm howto |
| [18:38:00] | ledhed: | Googling now |
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| [18:39:00] | GeckoFiend: | yeah the lvm howto shoudl pretty much cover it |
| [18:39:00] | JonK: | man lvdisplay, lvcreate, pvdisplay, pvcreate |
| [18:39:00] | GeckoFiend: | tldp.org |
| [18:40:00] | JonK: | and man lgdisplay lgcreate too --- |
| [18:40:00] | JonK: | google on these command line options and you'll find lots of stuff |
| [18:40:00] | ledhed: | thanks |
| [18:40:00] | JonK: | also webmin has an lvm module, but I wouldn't recommend using it until you understand lvm |
| [18:40:00] | ledhed: | is growing a LVM & XFS generally safe? |
| [18:40:00] | ledhed: | for the data |
| [18:41:00] | JonK: | that's the whole point of LVM |
| [18:41:00] | rtsai: | don't you have to grow *both*? |
| [18:41:00] | ledhed: | ?? |
| [18:41:00] | rtsai: | e.g., tell LVM to use more disk, and tell XFS that it has more space underneath that it can use? |
| [18:41:00] | JonK: | i've done it with JFS |
| [18:41:00] | hadees: | anyone tried out mythwifi |
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| [18:42:00] | ledhed: | this new drive brings my Backend upto 1 terrabyte. :) |
| [18:42:00] | JonK: | i recall doing somthing with remounting the drive after growing it |
| [18:43:00] | rtsai: | ledhed: pvcreate, etc. just tells LVM it has more space. But you still have to do a resize_xfs or whatever to tell xfs that it now has more disk blocks and inodes to play with |
| [18:43:00] | rtsai: | (I think, I don't use xfs.) |
| [18:43:00] | ledhed: | I dont understand LVM all that well. Will I create a new partition and add it to the LVM? |
| [18:44:00] | rtsai: | yeah, google "resize xfs" talks about resizing, etc. The nifty xfs thing is that you can resize while the fs is online (e.g., no need to unmount) |
| [18:44:00] | ledhed: | ok. I'll google before I ask anymore dumb questions. Thanks all |
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| [18:45:00] | bretula: | I'm getting tons of these when I try to watch Live TV, can anyone help me out? 2005-06–04 10:44:38.480 New DB connection, total: 2 |
| [18:45:00] | bretula: | 2005-06–04 10:44:38.498 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5) |
| [18:45:00] | bretula: | 2005-06–04 10:44:38.506 Using protocol version 15 |
| [18:45:00] | bretula: | 2005-06–04 10:44:38.539 Using protocol version 15 |
| [18:45:00] | bretula: | 2005-06–04 10:44:39.582 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read(). |
| [18:45:00] | bretula: | 2005-06–04 10:44:39.791 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read(). |
| [18:45:00] | bretula: | 2005-06–04 10:44:40.000 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read(). |
| [18:45:00] | bretula: | 2005-06–04 10:44:40.209 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read(). |
| [18:45:00] | bretula: | 2005-06–04 10:44:40.418 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read(). |
| [18:45:00] | bretula: | 2005-06–04 10:44:40.627 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read(). |
| [18:45:00] | bretula: | Couldn't read file: rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/home/mythtv/buffer/ringbuf1.nuv |
| [18:45:00] | bretula: | 2005-06–04 10:44:40.642 LiveTV not successfully started |
| [18:45:00] | bretula: | 2005-06–04 10:44:40.651 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| [18:45:00] | bretula: | 2005-06–04 10:44:40.654 Changing from None to None |
| [18:45:00] | ledhed: | bretula, dont spam. use pastebin |
| [18:45:00] | bretula: | Sorry |
| [18:46:00] | rtsai: | bretula: sometimes see that kind of junk when my card fails to get a signal lock |
| [18:46:00] | bretula: | rtsai, what clears it up? |
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| [18:46:00] | rtsai: | bretula: change the starting channel for that card, or use some external program to change the channel on your card |
| [18:46:00] | rtsai: | pita |
| [18:47:00] | rtsai: | or wait for a scheduled mythtv recording to change the channel :) |
| [18:47:00] | bretula: | rtsai, I can run mplayer on /dev/video1 without a problem... Card looks like it's OK |
| [18:47:00] | rtsai: | bretula: i think myth can be more picky about what it gets from the card, compared with other programs |
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| [18:48:00] | EricAnderson: | rtsai: Dude, what do I need to debug to find out the why transcoding from the recordings->select show->job optoins->begin transcoding is not working |
| [18:48:00] | rtsai: | bretula: you mentioned /dev/video1, so i won't be able to help on specifics, i use dvb |
| [18:49:00] | rtsai: | EricAnderson: you can try runnng mythbackend with "-v all" and see if you get more information in your logs |
| [18:49:00] | EricAnderson: | k |
| [18:49:00] | JonK: | can anyone help me with ivtv module settings for a pvr-500, mine do not seem to be workign correctly |
| [18:49:00] | EricAnderson: | JonK: I have a 150... dont know if that will help |
| [18:49:00] | JonK: | that might, |
| [18:50:00] | JonK: | ivtv recognizes the 500 as two 150s |
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| [18:50:00] | JonK: | what do you have for module settings |
| [18:50:00] | EricAnderson: | I just followed then gentoo mythtv howto |
| [18:50:00] | JonK: | ill take a look |
| [18:50:00] | EricAnderson: | None, it just worked |
| [18:50:00] | JonK: | how do you like gentoo? |
| [18:50:00] | EricAnderson: | i like it alot |
| [18:51:00] | EricAnderson: | If you have a fast machine, its a good deal |
| [18:51:00] | JonK: | I've been using debian for years, but am thinking of switching |
| [18:51:00] | EricAnderson: | I dont run it in my emulator though |
| [18:51:00] | EricAnderson: | i hate debian |
| [18:51:00] | EricAnderson: | Too slow |
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| [18:51:00] | JeffH: | what's up? |
| [18:51:00] | JonK: | nah, you just have to optimize it correctly |
| [18:51:00] | EricAnderson: | no, I meant too slow to update packages |
| [18:51:00] | JonK: | way to slow a release schedule |
| [18:52:00] | EricAnderson: | yeah |
| [18:52:00] | JonK: | ubuntu is a great alternative |
| [18:52:00] | ledhed: | Hi JeffH, I'm a Jeff H also. :) |
| [18:52:00] | EricAnderson: | yeah? |
| [18:52:00] | JonK: | my mythbackend is running on ubuntu |
| [18:52:00] | EricAnderson: | Ive been looking for a good distro to run within VMWare |
| [18:52:00] | JonK: | debian based, releases every 6 months |
| [18:52:00] | JeffH: | I'm trying to decide what distribution to base my myth box on. Generally my distro of choice is Debian. Is that a good distro to use for Myth? |
| [18:53:00] | EricAnderson: | JeffH: If you have the time to compile and whatnot, I suggest Gentoo |
| [18:53:00] | ledhed: | Deb is good. Fedora & Gentoo are also popular |
| [18:53:00] | JeffH: | Eric: why? what will the extra hassle of building things myself gain? |
| [18:53:00] | JonK: | customization |
| [18:53:00] | EricAnderson: | JeffH: Freshest packages |
| [18:54:00] | JonK: | binaries compiled for YOUR system, not for a generic one |
| [18:54:00] | JonK: | and you learn things at a mad pace |
| [18:54:00] | EricAnderson: | When a fix comes out for a package or a new update, I can get it the same day usually |
| [18:54:00] | JeffH: | hmm.. I tried Gentoo once.. got tired of the hours and hours and hours of compiling. |
| [18:54:00] | EricAnderson: | JeffH: How old is your machine? |
| [18:54:00] | EricAnderson: | Also, did you look into distcc? |
| [18:55:00] | JeffH: | Eric: it's relatively new.. Athlon XP 2600+. My myth box will be a 3000+ |
| [18:55:00] | EricAnderson: | then you shouldnt have any trouble with the compile times |
| [18:55:00] | EricAnderson: | The initial stuff, sure that takes time |
| [18:55:00] | EricAnderson: | But after that, if you keep up on it |
| [18:55:00] | EricAnderson: | Not a problem |
| [18:55:00] | ledhed: | JeffH, there is a great HowTo for Fedora at: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/ uses apt-get and ATRPMS |
| [18:56:00] | ledhed: | no compiling |
| [18:56:00] | JeffH: | to really get customized packages in gentoo do I have to delve into all the ./configure options and understand them? |
| [18:56:00] | JonK: | why are you throwing that much horsepower for a mytthtv box? |
| [18:57:00] | EricAnderson: | JeffH: Nope |
| [18:57:00] | jedir0x: | JeffH, no |
| [18:57:00] | EricAnderson: | JeffH: it uses flags |
| [18:57:00] | jedir0x: | JeffH, USE variable in make.conf |
| [18:57:00] | EricAnderson: | JeffH: So you set some global flags, like "mmx ssl apache2 transcode" etc |
| [18:57:00] | EricAnderson: | Then all your packages will read the flags and compile accordingly |
| [18:57:00] | jedir0x: | heh, i have like 345234523452345 use flags |
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| [18:57:00] | JeffH: | couple of reasons.. it's gonna be more than just a mythtv box. Plus that's where the big change in price is.. so that's where the best price is. |
| [18:57:00] | jedir0x: | USE="X a52 aac aalib acpi aim alsa -apache2 apm -arts audiofile |
| [18:57:00] | jedir0x: | avi berkdb bluetooth -bonobo bzlib cdparanoia cdr curl curlwrappers |
| [18:57:00] | jedir0x: | directfb divx4linux dv dvb dvd dvdr dvdread encode -esd expat |
| [18:57:00] | jedir0x: | fbcon ffmpeg flac flash ftp gif glut -gnome gphoto2 gpm gstreamer |
| [18:57:00] | jedir0x: | gtk gtk2 gtkhtml icq imagemagick imap imlib inifile jabber jack |
| [18:57:00] | jedir0x: | java javascript jpeg -kde lcms libcaca libwww lirc lm_sensors |
| [18:58:00] | jedir0x: | mad mikmod mime mmx mozilla mp3 mpeg msn -mysql ncurses nptl |
| [18:58:00] | jedir0x: | offensive ogg oggvorbis openal opengl pam perl png -postgres |
| [18:58:00] | jedir0x: | python qt quicktime readline samba sdl sndfile sox ssl svg |
| [18:58:00] | jedir0x: | svga sysfs truetype usb v4l vcd vorbis win32codecs wmf wxwindows |
| [18:58:00] | jedir0x: | xine xinerama xml xml2 xosd xpm xv xvid yahoo zlib userlocales gd |
| [18:58:00] | jedir0x: | dba session bitmap-fonts font-server nvidia winbind" |
| [18:58:00] | jedir0x: | o shit, sorry |
| [18:58:00] | jedir0x: | son of a bitch, that was meant for another channel |
| [18:58:00] | jedir0x: | window* |
| [18:58:00] | JonK: | if you're not running hardware encoders (pvr350/250 etc) I don't know what you would need the power for. |
| [18:58:00] | twisted_one: | GreyFoxx: Im home from work now so if you get some freetime tonight =) |
| [18:59:00] | twisted_one: | JonK: transcoding |
| [18:59:00] | JonK: | ok there's one |
| [18:59:00] | jedir0x: | me USE flags: http://pastebin.com/295142 |
| [18:59:00] | JeffH: | does it hurt having that much power? |
| [18:59:00] | xris: | JeffH: only your electric bill |
| [18:59:00] | twisted_one: | JeffH: how much, I missed the statement |
| [18:59:00] | JeffH: | how much what? |
| [18:59:00] | twisted_one: | xris: meh, if its anything modern it'll save power with stepping |
| [18:59:00] | twisted_one: | power |
| [19:00:00] | JeffH: | twisted: either a 2800+ or 3000+ cpu.. forget which. |
| [19:00:00] | twisted_one: | ah |
| [19:00:00] | twisted_one: | I have a 2200 in mine |
| [19:00:00] | twisted_one: | I havent really done much, it just started working yesterday =) |
| [19:00:00] | twisted_one: | Speaking of which, does anyone know offhand where the option to automatically transcode recordings is? |
| [19:01:00] | jedir0x: | I have a dual AMD64FX55 for mine |
| [19:01:00] | twisted_one: | I had a look through the GUI last night and didn't see the switch, but I know that I hvae seen it before |
| [19:01:00] | jedir0x: | but it's also a render farm :) |
| [19:01:00] | twisted_one: | jedir0x: no such thing =P |
| [19:01:00] | jedir0x: | twisted_one, you got me ;) |
| [19:01:00] | rtsai|afk is now known as rtsai | |
| [19:01:00] | twisted_one: | =) |
| [19:01:00] | twisted_one: | Well... |
| [19:01:00] | jedir0x: | I have AMD54 FX55 in my workstation (this machine) |
| [19:01:00] | JeffH: | I'll take that back.. I speced a 2700+ |
| [19:01:00] | twisted_one: | Opteron 248's are basically 55's |
| [19:01:00] | twisted_one: | jedir0x: bleh, overkill |
| [19:02:00] | jedir0x: | nah, Opteron's suck compared to these processors |
| [19:02:00] | twisted_one: | jedir0x: not at all |
| [19:02:00] | rtsai: | twisted_one: you have to enable autotranscode in recording profile, and you also set it in per-recording schedules |
| [19:02:00] | jedir0x: | But they have to, they are 600 dollars less ;) |
| [19:02:00] | JeffH: | my total system cost is gonna be just over $600. |
| [19:02:00] | twisted_one: | rtsai: ah, thank you =) |
| [19:02:00] | jedir0x: | not bad |
| [19:02:00] | twisted_one: | JeffH: Mine was... $300 |
| [19:02:00] | rtsai: | twisted_one: you need to turn it on in both places otherwise you won't autotranscode |
| [19:02:00] | jedir0x: | i need to get a PVR350 from Frys today |
| [19:03:00] | JeffH: | twisted: is that for all new components? or did you have some laying around? |
| [19:03:00] | twisted_one: | rtsai: ok, thank you I shall do that soon |
| [19:03:00] | twisted_one: | rtsai: any chance that it will transcode my already recorded material? |
| [19:03:00] | JeffH: | I wish they'd build a fry's up here.. though online would still be cheaper. |
| [19:03:00] | jedir0x: | what i _really_ want is digital out (SP/DIF) to work. |
| [19:03:00] | twisted_one: | JeffH: all |
| [19:03:00] | rtsai: | twisted_one: no, you'll have to hit all your recordings and "start transcoding" :P |
| [19:03:00] | twisted_one: | JeffH: well, I put an extra HD in there |
| [19:03:00] | JeffH: | twisted: what kind of case? |
| [19:03:00] | twisted_one: | JeffH: the one that came with it |
| [19:04:00] | JeffH: | I'm getting a HTPC case. |
| [19:04:00] | JeffH: | don't want an ugly tower sitting next to my tv. |
| [19:04:00] | twisted_one: | JeffH: I got Sempron 2200, 256 MB ram, 40gb HDD PSU for $150 |
| [19:04:00] | twisted_one: | then I tossed in a PVR-500 |
| [19:04:00] | xris: | JeffH: silverstone lc-11 |
| [19:04:00] | twisted_one: | and some more ram to up it to 512 |
| [19:04:00] | twisted_one: | xris: I like the Ahanix 300's |
| [19:05:00] | JeffH: | twisted: sounds like a puny system. |
| [19:05:00] | xris: | blech. too big. |
| [19:05:00] | twisted_one: | JeffH: for $150, I dont care =P |
| [19:05:00] | twisted_one: | xris: the silverstone is bigger |
| [19:05:00] | twisted_one: | the 300's are the slim ones |
| [19:05:00] | twisted_one: | the max height is that of the PCI card |
| [19:05:00] | jedir0x: | wtf |
| [19:05:00] | twisted_one: | jedir0x: ? |
| [19:05:00] | xris: | twisted_one: maybe I'm looking at bad pictures. |
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| [19:05:00] | twisted_one: | xris: one sec, ill find a link I might have the numbers wrong |
| [19:05:00] | xris: | twisted_one: the silverstone lc-11 is tiny. |
| [19:06:00] | twisted_one: | http://www.pctoyland.com/prod_2562.htm |
| [19:06:00] | xris: | http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-lc11.htm |
| [19:06:00] | twisted_one: | xris: ah |
| [19:06:00] | xris: | twisted_one: but that's much better than the ones I saw. |
| [19:06:00] | twisted_one: | ah |
| [19:06:00] | xris: | lc-11 is $60 cheaper, too. |
| [19:07:00] | twisted_one: | I just have seen too many HTPC cases which are huge. I dont like them |
| [19:07:00] | twisted_one: | xris: mine comes with a VFD though =P |
| [19:07:00] | xris: | that's true |
| [19:07:00] | xris: | but is it worth $60? |
| [19:07:00] | twisted_one: | they sell a 300 series without it for less |
| [19:07:00] | twisted_one: | xris: to me, yes, I have to own one somewhere |
| [19:08:00] | xris: | heh |
| [19:08:00] | twisted_one: | in all the PCs I have built I have never done one yet |
| [19:08:00] | twisted_one: | I ahve wanted to since my very first |
| [19:08:00] | xris: | I'll stick with my pundit. |
| [19:08:00] | twisted_one: | that and watercooling, btu that has lost its edge |
| [19:08:00] | ** laga has a leak in his watercooling setup ** | |
| [19:08:00] | twisted_one: | I cant wait for the new liquid metal heat pipes, they are really ncie. |
| [19:09:00] | twisted_one: | laga: bleh, thats not good =\ |
| [19:09:00] | laga: | and i'm too lazy to fix it which is the reason why my main box hasn't been online in the last few weeks :/ |
| [19:11:00] | twisted_one: | rtsai: still around? |
| [19:11:00] | JonK: | i have a shuttle xpc — all the reveiws commented about how quite this particular box was, it's freaking loud as hell |
| [19:12:00] | twisted_one: | JonK: lol |
| [19:12:00] | laga: | my pundit has gotten loud lately, too. |
| [19:12:00] | twisted_one: | JonK: perhaps you have a bad bearing or just a cable in the wrong spot which totally f's over the air flow |
| [19:12:00] | twisted_one: | pundit? |
| [19:12:00] | twisted_one: | name of yoru pc? |
| [19:12:00] | twisted_one: | or is that a case? |
| [19:12:00] | laga: | twisted_one: asus pundit. nice little thing. |
| [19:12:00] | JonK: | it's the shuttle xb75s |
| [19:12:00] | twisted_one: | ah |
| [19:13:00] | JonK: | it has a lovely automotive paint finish on it |
| [19:13:00] | JonK: | also have a ice cube vg61 --- it's much quieter |
| [19:13:00] | JonK: | especially since one of the fans died |
| [19:13:00] | laga: | heh. |
| [19:16:00] | JeffH: | is an athlon xp 1900+ enough power for a myth box? |
| [19:21:00] | JonK: | I'm using an athon 2200 for mine |
| [19:21:00] | JonK: | are you going to be using hardware encoders"? |
| [19:21:00] | JeffH: | yeah.. the 250 |
| [19:21:00] | laga: | is it possible to have a (master) backend without any capture cards? |
| [19:21:00] | JonK: | you'll be fine |
| [19:22:00] | JonK: | to use just for videos?/Games?/mp3? |
| [19:22:00] | laga: | JonK: nope, i'm planning to make it run on my server which doesn't have any capture cards yet. |
| [19:22:00] | JonK: | it being? |
| [19:23:00] | laga: | the master backend ;) |
| [19:23:00] | JeffH: | JonK: I'm also going to use it for a low volume mail server and a file server. |
| [19:23:00] | laga: | and i want to make the backend with the capture cards run on my soon-to-be-diskless frontend. |
| [19:23:00] | JonK: | mythtv-setup is used to specify what cards you have |
| [19:24:00] | laga: | JonK: thank you, i've been using mythtv for a long time now |
| [19:24:00] | ledhed: | JeffH, I use mine for a File Server also. Though I moved the Mail server to another box |
| [19:24:00] | laga: | JonK: but your help is appreciated, of course :) |
| [19:24:00] | ledhed: | JeffH, what kind of storage? |
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| [19:24:00] | JonK: | i've been running this for about a month, i don't know what in gods name made me think the tivo was inadequate |
| [19:25:00] | laga: | JonK: hehe. |
| [19:25:00] | JeffH: | ledhed: nothing major.. just mp3s mostly. |
| [19:25:00] | laga: | JonK: the tivo didn't eat up your time ;) |
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| [19:25:00] | ** laga ponders and wonders. ** | |
| [19:25:00] | ledhed: | JeffH, I use an underclocked Mobile AthlonXP @ 133x9 (1200mhz) works fine |
| [19:25:00] | JonK: | or cash — I've bought a pvr 350/pvr500/a 300 gb drive, and am going to order the hd3000 card soon |
| [19:26:00] | laga: | JonK: nice set up! |
| [19:26:00] | laga: | should i make an lvm with the hdds in the server? |
| [19:26:00] | ledhed: | anyone tried FC4 test3? |
| [19:26:00] | laga: | what happens if one hdd fails? |
| [19:26:00] | JeffH: | I cain't wait to build a myth machine.. gotta buy a house first.. haha |
| [19:26:00] | JonK: | i am using lvm only for the drive that holds recordings |
| [19:26:00] | laga: | JonK: make sure to get some decent wiring there. |
| [19:26:00] | JonK: | wiring? |
| [19:27:00] | laga: | JonK: ethernet ;) |
| [19:27:00] | ledhed: | no joke |
| [19:27:00] | ledhed: | wire the house for networking! |
| [19:27:00] | laga: | do it. |
| [19:27:00] | JonK: | house hell, I'm in 1 bedroom apartment |
| [19:27:00] | JonK: | spent all my money on capture cards |
| [19:27:00] | JeffH: | ledhed: that's certainly possible.. though if nothing else I'll just go wireless. |
| [19:28:00] | ledhed: | I'm having a house built and I had them run smurf tube at each outlet!!! Future proof! |
| [19:28:00] | JeffH: | JonK: that's precisely why I'm going to get into a house first. |
| [19:28:00] | ledhed: | JeffH, 802.11g may be ok for a few streams |
| [19:28:00] | laga: | JonK: i'm afraid that I'll loose my mp3s and stuff. but mythtv can't handle multiple drives :/ |
| [19:29:00] | laga: | JonK: and sorry for mixing you up with JeffH, stupid tab key ;) |
| [19:29:00] | JeffH: | wired would certainly be my preference.. but wiring a pre-existing house is a pita. |
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| [19:29:00] | ledhed: | laga just create a LVM for all the drives |
| [19:29:00] | laga: | ledhed: and if one drive fails, the file system goes boom. |
| [19:29:00] | ledhed: | JeffH, a drill and a fish tape is all you need! |
| [19:29:00] | ledhed: | laga ever heard of RAID? |
| [19:29:00] | laga: | ledhed: ever heard of cheapskates? ;) |
| [19:29:00] | JeffH: | laga: how do you figure Myth can't handle multiple drives? |
| [19:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: Setup a raid array and run an lvm accross it |
| [19:30:00] | ledhed: | ah, its clear now! |
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| [19:30:00] | laga: | JeffH: it can, with lvm, but not natively like vdr. |
| [19:30:00] | ledhed: | cheap = no redundency |
| [19:30:00] | laga: | ledhed: heh. |
| [19:30:00] | ** laga is quite proud that he has a raid-1 for / in his server. ** | |
| [19:30:00] | JeepJerk: | anyone have success resizing their desktop to the full TV screen with nvidia tv out? |
| [19:30:00] | ledhed: | drivers are cheap man |
| [19:30:00] | JeffH: | can't you just mount the drive and then myth doesn't know the difference between one drive and another.. |
| [19:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | JeepJerk: It's called overscan. |
| [19:31:00] | JonK: | and besides, how bad will i really feel if all my spice channel recordings went up in smoke |
| [19:31:00] | laga: | ledhed: i've already spent all my money on mythtv, i'm way too broke tu buy a new hdd ;) |
| [19:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can configure it with the nvidia-settings util or in your X config file |
| [19:31:00] | JonK: | I wish I could fix the overscan on my pvr-350 |
| [19:31:00] | ledhed: | laga I hear you. I just spent all my $ on a new Ninja |
| [19:32:00] | JeffH: | I'm about to spend all my $$ on a house. |
| [19:32:00] | ledhed: | JeffH, I feel you too |
| [19:32:00] | laga: | ledhed: i think i'll use symlinks instead of lvm. :> |
| [19:32:00] | JeepJerk: | GreyFoxx: nvidia-settings sounds easier, no? |
| [19:32:00] | JeffH: | its all good.. better than throwing it away on rent. |
| [19:32:00] | laga: | ledhed: cool! does it know any nice tricks? |
| [19:32:00] | ledhed: | can you create multiple symlinks to one location? |
| [19:32:00] | JonK: | use lvm, it's easy |
| [19:33:00] | ledhed: | laga, I did an Endo yesterday |
| [19:33:00] | laga: | ledhed: symlinking the .nuv files should be easy. |
| [19:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | JeepJerk: No, nvidia-settings is not "permanent" unless you make ti auto run when X loads |
| [19:33:00] | laga: | ledhed: endo? ;) |
| [19:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or just add 1 line to your X config file and you are done |
| [19:33:00] | ledhed: | motorcycle (reverse wheelie) |
| [19:33:00] | JeepJerk: | GreyFoxx: how would I find out how to so the config method? |
| [19:34:00] | laga: | JonK: easy when you can afford redundancy. for now, i'll lvm-imize the 300gb hdd and add $things later |
| [19:34:00] | laga: | ledhed: nice! |
| [19:34:00] | ledhed: | not really about killed my self. |
| [19:34:00] | laga: | ledhed: yeah, gotta spend money on a car, too. |
| [19:34:00] | JeffH: | does a mythbox take a lot of care and feeding after setting it up? or is it pretty much set once setup right? |
| [19:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | JeepJerk: Go read the README for the nvidia drivers :) |
| [19:34:00] | ledhed: | go motorcycle. Fast Cheap and good on gas |
| [19:34:00] | laga: | ledhed: let's hope you learned something then ;) |
| [19:34:00] | laga: | JeffH: mine does. other people's boxes don't. |
| [19:35:00] | JeffH: | laga: why does yours? |
| [19:35:00] | laga: | JeffH: because i'm stupid and used to be low on disk space ;) |
| [19:35:00] | ledhed: | laga, nope brain memory was at capacity. |
| [19:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | JeepJerk: You add a "TVOverscan" option to the section where you define info about the card |
| [19:35:00] | laga: | ledhed: naw. my parents won't pay for a motorcycle. ;) |
| [19:36:00] | ledhed: | your parents. LOL |
| [19:36:00] | JeffH: | wonder if it would make sense to put 2 hds in the box.. a small one for the system files.. and a larger one where all the recordings live. |
| [19:36:00] | ledhed: | JeffH, YES! |
| [19:36:00] | ** laga is a spoiled brat ** | |
| [19:36:00] | JonK: | that's exactly what i did |
| [19:36:00] | JeepJerk: | GreyFoxx: thanks |
| [19:36:00] | ledhed: | put the OS on a small drive and use the other as Myth Storage |
| [19:36:00] | laga: | JeffH: the bigger drive can spin down then. |
| [19:37:00] | JonK: | a 60gb drive (25 to /, 20 to an old windows partitoin with backup files from my old firm, the rest to myth video) |
| [19:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ack, why would you want to spin down the drive? |
| [19:37:00] | JonK: | after getting myth running i added a 300gb drive to the |
| [19:37:00] | JonK: | myth video |
| [19:37:00] | JonK: | and am about to add another one |
| [19:38:00] | ledhed: | I wont even go into what I've spent on my storage.. Sad really |
| [19:38:00] | JeffH: | haha |
| [19:38:00] | JeffH: | I've got an old 40gb ide drive. |
| [19:38:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: well, i usually record one or two things/day. it doesn't make any sense to let the disk run 22hours/days for nothing. |
| [19:38:00] | JonK: | and again, how much pr0n can one person really use |
| [19:38:00] | ledhed: | it was the 3ware controller that broke the bank |
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| [19:38:00] | JeffH: | ledhed: you've got a raid setup? |
| [19:38:00] | ledhed: | JeffH, is the 40g quiet? |
| [19:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: it is worse to spin the drive up and down than to just leave it be |
| [19:38:00] | ledhed: | JeffH, ya |
| [19:38:00] | JeffH: | led: dunno. |
| [19:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | lowers the lifespan of the drive |
| [19:39:00] | JeffH: | led: sweet.. I've thought about doing that.. but I don't really need a raid setup.. haha |
| [19:39:00] | ledhed: | 7x 160g in RAID5 (960g capacity) |
| [19:39:00] | JonK: | woot! |
| [19:39:00] | JonK: | im going for 3 300–400 gb drives |
| [19:39:00] | ledhed: | Its about 1/2 full. Mostly SpongeBob |
| [19:39:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: i guess it's about 50/50 ;) |
| [19:39:00] | laga: | spongebob rocks. |
| [19:40:00] | JeffH: | JonK: I think my storage drive is gonna be 300gb sata drive. |
| [19:40:00] | JeepJerk: | any guesses on a value for TVOverScan? |
| [19:40:00] | JeffH: | ledhed: you have kids or something? |
| [19:40:00] | ledhed: | ya |
| [19:40:00] | ledhed: | 4 |
| [19:40:00] | JonK: | for nvida use values between 0 and 1 |
| [19:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | Jeep trial and error is the best option for you |
| [19:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | personally I use 0.979 |
| [19:40:00] | JeffH: | I was gonna be worried if you said no. haha |
| [19:40:00] | JeepJerk: | just keep resetting X? |
| [19:40:00] | JonK: | i use 2^(1/2) |
| [19:40:00] | JonK: | err.. not really |
| [19:40:00] | ledhed: | I actually loke sponge bob. lotta adult humor in it |
| [19:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | JeffH: Hey! Spongbob is cool :) |
| [19:41:00] | ledhed: | like |
| [19:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've been watching it long before I kid was born :) |
| [19:41:00] | laga: | ledhed: yep. |
| [19:41:00] | JeffH: | haha I've never actually sat through an episode. |
| [19:41:00] | ledhed: | its even better when I've taken an Ambien (sleeping pill) |
| [19:41:00] | JeffH: | ledhed: so is your raid setup in your myth box? |
| [19:42:00] | ledhed: | JeffH, watch about 3. and you'll be a fan |
| [19:42:00] | ledhed: | JeffH, Ya |
| [19:42:00] | ledhed: | RADI5 LVM XFS |
| [19:42:00] | JeffH: | doesn't that make it noisy? |
| [19:42:00] | ledhed: | no, Seagate 7200.7's |
| [19:42:00] | ledhed: | very quiet. |
| [19:43:00] | JeffH: | did you go the whole nine yards and get the pull out drives too? |
| [19:43:00] | ledhed: | I'm all about quiet computers... |
| [19:43:00] | ledhed: | JeffH, no. but my case does have quick release bays |
| [19:43:00] | ledhed: | I'm thinking about putting in a 19" rack in my new office |
| [19:44:00] | JeffH: | if I had unlimited $$ that would be sweet.. haha |
| [19:44:00] | laga: | a 19" rack. in your office. do you want ear plugs with that? |
| [19:44:00] | ledhed: | I'm gonna sound proof the closet |
| [19:44:00] | laga: | oh, yeah |
| [19:44:00] | ledhed: | It already has its own AC |
| [19:44:00] | JeffH: | I can see the day coming when a house has a server rack in a closet or basement as pretty much a standard deal. |
| [19:44:00] | JeepJerk: | TVOverScan isn't changing anything |
| [19:45:00] | laga: | JeffH: i can see the day coming when half of the smog over LA is acutally caused by nano computers. |
| [19:45:00] | ledhed: | laga, I have SoyFoam insulation in the walls and the doors |
| [19:45:00] | laga: | ledhed: sounds chinese. |
| [19:45:00] | ledhed: | and I'm gonna put in Egg Crate foam |
| [19:45:00] | ledhed: | I prefer Japanese |
| [19:45:00] | laga: | that should be enough ;) |
| [19:45:00] | JeffH: | led: you really have enough servers in your house to justify a rack? |
| [19:46:00] | ledhed: | including Myth Frontends I have 11 computers |
| [19:46:00] | JeffH: | wow. |
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| [19:46:00] | JeffH: | front ends have to be near the tv don't they? |
| [19:46:00] | ledhed: | yup |
| [19:46:00] | ledhed: | 4 frontends |
| [19:46:00] | ledhed: | 1 backend |
| [19:46:00] | ledhed: | and soon to be 1 commercial flagging server |
| [19:47:00] | dopester: | thats alot of tv watching :) |
| [19:47:00] | ledhed: | 4 autistic kids. They demand TV |
| [19:47:00] | JeffH: | I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.. right now I have 2 servers in my apartment and don't even have a myth box yet. |
| [19:47:00] | JeffH: | that's tough led. |
| [19:48:00] | ledhed: | Its not so bad |
| [19:48:00] | ledhed: | for me anyhow |
| [19:48:00] | JeepJerk: | could my driver version be causing TVOverScan to not work? |
| [19:48:00] | ledhed: | JeepJerk, is it Nvidia or OpenSource? |
| [19:48:00] | JeffH: | what is a commercial flagging server? |
| [19:49:00] | JeepJerk: | nvidia |
| [19:49:00] | dopester: | mine works with .997 but never with 1 |
| [19:49:00] | dopester: | no idea why |
| [19:49:00] | ledhed: | JeffH, you can have multiple backends. and 1 will be specifically for flagging commercials |
| [19:49:00] | JeepJerk: | mine doesn't work with anything |
| [19:49:00] | JeepJerk: | :( |
| [19:49:00] | laga: | has anyone ever experienced that mythfrontend and libmyth don't get build? |
| [19:49:00] | JeffH: | I didn't know such a thing existed.. how does it work? |
| [19:50:00] | ledhed: | It flags the commercials so that Myth can skip them |
| [19:50:00] | JeffH: | does it do a good job? |
| [19:50:00] | ledhed: | I'm not sure. I've never used it. LOL |
| [19:50:00] | JeffH: | haha |
| [19:51:00] | JeffH: | that would be sweet.. does myth skip them automatically? |
| [19:51:00] | ledhed: | I'm told that Myth is 9+5% accurate |
| [19:51:00] | ledhed: | +95% |
| [19:51:00] | JeffH: | wow, that's pretty solid. |
| [19:51:00] | ledhed: | ya if you tell it to |
| [19:52:00] | JeffH: | wow.. never watch a commercial again.. how cool would that be. Can you have that with a single backend? |
| [19:52:00] | ledhed: | you can watch a 1hr show in 40min |
| [19:53:00] | JeepJerk: | yeah |
| [19:53:00] | dopester: | i love it when people say to me "have you seen that commercial where.. " and i just cut them off "i don't watch commercials" |
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| [19:53:00] | ledhed: | :) |
| [19:53:00] | JeepJerk: | JeffH any backend can flag commercia;s |
| [19:53:00] | JeepJerk: | you just need to tell it to automatically flag them |
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| [19:53:00] | ledhed: | I hate it when I go to a friends house and watch tv.. I want to pause and cant! |
| [19:53:00] | JeffH: | sweet.. I'll definitely set that up. |
| [19:54:00] | ledhed: | JeffH, Go with Fedora and Jarod WIlsons Howto. You can get a Mack/Frontend up in a few hours |
| [19:54:00] | JeepJerk: | know what I hate is the way my computer isn't using the whole tv screen :( |
| [19:54:00] | ledhed: | back/frontend |
| [19:55:00] | ledhed: | JeepJerk, what resolution? |
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| [19:55:00] | JeffH: | led: what specs do your frontends have? |
| [19:55:00] | JeepJerk: | 640x480 |
| [19:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | JeepJerk: what version of the drivers ? |
| [19:56:00] | ledhed: | Underclocked AthlonXP's @ 100x11 (1100mhz) Nforce2 Mobos with 256mg ram & 10g Notebook HardDrives |
| [19:56:00] | ledhed: | Silverstone HTPC Cases |
| [19:56:00] | JeepJerk: | 1.0.611? |
| [19:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | I had issues with 7174/(I think) which would make overscan not have any effect. I reverted to 6629 and it works great |
| [19:57:00] | JeffH: | that's cool.. hm.. maybe seperate front/back end is the way to go |
| [19:57:00] | JonK: | remember too, the backend itself can run as a frontend |
| [19:57:00] | JeepJerk: | err, 6111 |
| [19:57:00] | ledhed: | JeepJerk, are you setting the overscan in the xconfig or with the nVidia Utility |
| [19:57:00] | JeffH: | true. |
| [19:58:00] | JeepJerk: | xorg.conf |
| [19:58:00] | ledhed: | try the nVidia Util |
| [19:58:00] | JonK: | jeep, also mythtv itself has some settings for size of the gui and size of output |
| [19:58:00] | JeepJerk: | I can see it in the log (**) NVIDIA(0): Option "TVOverScan" "0.2" |
| [19:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | try 0.9 |
| [19:58:00] | JeepJerk: | but no matter what the value is its always the same |
| [19:58:00] | JeffH: | I'll wait and see what kind of house I get.. seems if you separate front end and backend it would be better to have wired network. |
| [19:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | You can also try a new version of the driver. a new one came out this week but I haven't touched it yet |
| [19:59:00] | JonK: | I use sepearte frontends really for different tvs |
| [19:59:00] | JonK: | first tv (in bedroom) has the backend |
| [19:59:00] | laga: | JonK: what kind of nvidia do you have? |
| [19:59:00] | JonK: | second tv (in main frontroom) has the frontend |
| [19:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use 2 pc diskless frontends, 1 mediamvp as a frontend and 1 frontend/backjend combo |
| [19:59:00] | JeffH: | JonK: that makes sense.. how does your separate frontend talk to backend? wired or wireless network? |
| [20:00:00] | JonK: | In the frontend I have a geforce 5200 fx |
| [20:00:00] | JeepJerk: | wait, I only have a geforce2 |
| [20:00:00] | JonK: | I think? |
| [20:00:00] | JeepJerk: | will overscan work? |
| [20:00:00] | JonK: | the backend I"m using the tvout on a pvr350 |
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| [20:00:00] | laga: | JeepJerk: nope. |
| [20:00:00] | laga: | JeepJerk: not with the nvidia driver. |
| [20:00:00] | laga: | JeepJerk: try nvtv.sf.net |
| [20:00:00] | JeffH: | ooh.. diskless frontends sound cool.. where does it pick up the image from? The backend? |
| [20:00:00] | ledhed: | geforce2 Overscan isnt supported |
| [20:00:00] | JonK: | cdrom |
| [20:00:00] | ledhed: | you have to use another util |
| [20:00:00] | JeepJerk: | so is there anything I can do? |
| [20:01:00] | JonK: | have you tried mythtv settings? |
| [20:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | JeffH: Yeah, tftp the kernel from the dhcpserver/backend |
| [20:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | and nfs mount it's file systems |
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| [20:01:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: i was going to use ltsp for the diskless frontends, but i didn't get very far with the mythtv package. i hope that rjune has better luck ;) |
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| [20:01:00] | JonK: | you mean using bootp or pxe? |
| [20:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | I just use etherboot on afloppy |
| [20:01:00] | JeffH: | Grey: that seems pretty slick. |
| [20:01:00] | JeepJerk: | mythtv will only size to the screen |
| [20:01:00] | JeffH: | aah.. a netboot network card would be even slicker. |
| [20:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | JonK: It dhcps for it's info and boot config file |
| [20:02:00] | JonK: | you want it to size larger than the screen? |
| [20:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | tftp's the kernel |
| [20:02:00] | ledhed: | JeepJerk, http://sourceforge.net/projects/nv-tv-out/ |
| [20:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | and then nfs mounts it's file systems |
| [20:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | woo, my kid is up from her nap |
| [20:02:00] | JonK: | joy |
| [20:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | now it's time to go swimming |
| [20:03:00] | laga: | have fun :) |
| [20:03:00] | JeffH: | happy swimming |
| [20:03:00] | JeffH: | its about time for me to get going and play some poker. |
| [20:03:00] | ledhed: | JeffH, you can setup the backend to host the boot image |
| [20:03:00] | JeepJerk: | no documentation |
| [20:03:00] | JonK: | im in my office, I really should get some work done |
| [20:03:00] | laga: | JeepJerk: and you have fun, too |
| [20:04:00] | ** laga sits in his living room and should get his beer done ** | |
| [20:04:00] | JeffH: | led: yeah.. I'm somewhat familiar with diskless setups. |
| [20:04:00] | ledhed: | JonK, work is over rated |
| [20:04:00] | JeffH: | I guess the only real advantage to a diskless setup is no hd required. |
| [20:04:00] | laga: | and i can't believe that this big tower is full. 2 scsi discs, one ide disc, one streamer and one floppy. |
| [20:04:00] | ledhed: | no drive means less noise and heat.. I want to set mine up for diskless someday |
| [20:04:00] | ledhed: | but I'm not that Linux Savy |
| [20:04:00] | JeffH: | ooh, good point. |
| [20:05:00] | ledhed: | quiet is important in the bedroom and livingroom |
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| [20:05:00] | JeffH: | that would be cool. doesn't make sense for me to have more than 1 front end at this time.. I only have 1 tv. haha |
| [20:05:00] | laga: | ledhed: well, if i get LTSP up and running, i'll try to put some docs together. |
| [20:05:00] | laga: | and packages. |
| [20:05:00] | JeffH: | though, still contemplating 2 capture cards. |
| [20:05:00] | ledhed: | sweet |
| [20:05:00] | ledhed: | JeffH, I have 4. Its cool |
| [20:06:00] | JonK: | im still trying to get the 2nd capture card to load properly |
| [20:06:00] | JonK: | :( |
| [20:06:00] | JeffH: | led: yeah, but you've got enough people in your place to justify it.. I live alone. |
| [20:06:00] | ** laga lives alone and has two TVs ;) ** | |
| [20:06:00] | ledhed: | still. 2 is good. watch and record |
| [20:06:00] | JonK: | me too :) |
| [20:06:00] | ledhed: | ah, to be a loner |
| [20:06:00] | JonK: | and am about to switch one to a large plasma |
| [20:06:00] | JeffH: | yeah, I agree.. but 4 for a single guy would be overkill.. get out and watch less tv for god sake.. haha |
| [20:06:00] | JonK: | if i ever getmyth 100% configured the way I want it |
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| [20:07:00] | ledhed: | I'm waiting till after christmas for my Plasma |
| [20:07:00] | ** laga is trying to get mythtv set up before the summer comes ** | |
| [20:07:00] | JeffH: | I've thought about getting a bigger (maybe HD even) tv for the Living room when I buy my house. |
| [20:07:00] | laga: | so that i can go out and watch TV in winter ;) |
| [20:07:00] | ** JonK thinks memorial day was start of summer ** | |
| [20:07:00] | laga: | wtf? |
| [20:08:00] | laga: | it's summer already? |
| [20:08:00] | ledhed: | MythTV and HDTV is another ball of wax |
| [20:08:00] | JonK: | fraid so |
| [20:08:00] | JeffH: | laga: are you down under or something? |
| [20:08:00] | JeepJerk: | man do I hate samba |
| [20:08:00] | laga: | JeffH: heh. no. just geeking out ;) |
| [20:08:00] | JonK: | led, I"ve ordered the hd3000 |
| [20:08:00] | JeffH: | haha |
| [20:08:00] | ledhed: | cool |
| [20:08:00] | laga: | is gmail down? |
| [20:08:00] | JeffH: | is there such a thing as an HD capture card that is supported by Linux/Myth? |
| [20:09:00] | ledhed: | with HD, is it always 1080i or can you choose 720p? |
| [20:09:00] | JeepJerk: | laga: no |
| [20:09:00] | JonK: | it can be 540 |
| [20:09:00] | laga: | JeepJerk: gotta be a problem at my side, then |
| [20:09:00] | JonK: | JeffH yes, hd capure card at www.pchdtv.com |
| [20:09:00] | JonK: | in fact it's a linux ONLY capture card |
| [20:10:00] | JonK: | it does not have windows drivers |
| [20:10:00] | JeffH: | coool. |
| [20:10:00] | JeepJerk: | laga: I'll trade problems |
| [20:10:00] | JeepJerk: | :) |
| [20:10:00] | JeffH: | maybe I'll just go with a single pvr-250 on anticipation of getting a hd tv and hd tuner card. |
| [20:10:00] | JonK: | ? |
| [20:10:00] | JonK: | instead of? |
| [20:10:00] | laga: | JeffH: hehe. nope, thank you ;) |
| [20:11:00] | JeffH: | Is it easy to get myth to play nicely with cable/dish? |
| [20:11:00] | JonK: | have only tried with analog cable |
| [20:11:00] | ledhed: | Jeff No |
| [20:11:00] | JeffH: | laga: nope what? |
| [20:11:00] | JeffH: | ledhed: that sucks. |
| [20:11:00] | laga: | JeffH: sorry, i mixed up nicks again :/ |
| [20:12:00] | ledhed: | JeffH, are you handy with a Iron? |
| [20:12:00] | JeepJerk: | who makes a good TVout card? |
| [20:12:00] | JeffH: | led: sure. |
| [20:12:00] | ledhed: | PVR-350 |
| [20:12:00] | JonK: | agreed |
| [20:12:00] | ledhed: | JeffH, you can build your own LIRC transmitter/Reciever |
| [20:12:00] | JeffH: | that's cool. |
| [20:12:00] | JonK: | the pvr-350/ or 250 comes with a good remote |
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| [20:13:00] | ledhed: | I have a parts list for the reciever (RadioShack) when you need it |
| [20:13:00] | JeffH: | is getting HD reception easier than analog? or same type problems? |
| [20:13:00] | JonK: | no idea, I'll tell you in a week or so |
| [20:13:00] | ledhed: | I'm good at ehm after building 4+ recievers |
| [20:13:00] | JonK: | anyone using a snapstream firefily? |
| [20:13:00] | JonK: | firefly remote |
| [20:13:00] | JeffH: | led: is it a lot cheaper than buying one? |
| [20:14:00] | ledhed: | JeffH, I just use Standard cable. No box. 99 channels |
| [20:14:00] | JeepJerk: | think I could change my modelines to make the picture fit? |
| [20:14:00] | JeffH: | led: yeah, that's what I have now.. just wondering for later on down the line though. |
| [20:14:00] | ledhed: | JeffH, mine cost about $35 for all 4 |
| [20:14:00] | ledhed: | total |
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| [20:14:00] | ledhed: | now the remotes are a different story. |
| [20:14:00] | djperegrine: | I just got a zap2it account ,mysql and mythtv |
| [20:14:00] | JeffH: | I have no clue what one costs just to go buy. |
| [20:15:00] | djperegrine: | how do I set all of those up? |
| [20:15:00] | JonK: | the firefly remote is $49 |
| [20:15:00] | ledhed: | I built mine because I wanted them to be internal... |
| [20:15:00] | JeffH: | what do you mean internal? |
| [20:15:00] | ledhed: | The reciever |
| [20:16:00] | JeffH: | as opposed to usb or something? |
| [20:16:00] | ledhed: | the IR eye |
| [20:16:00] | JeffH: | where's the eye sit? |
| [20:16:00] | ledhed: | if you buy one vs build one its a box that sits outside your case |
| [20:16:00] | JonK: | I'm working on one that analyzes my brain waves |
| [20:16:00] | JeffH: | I see led |
| [20:17:00] | ledhed: | you put the eye near the tv. because thats where you naturally point the remote |
| [20:17:00] | JeffH: | led: don't you have to have the eye be somewhere that the signal will get to? doesn't seem like it would get to inside the box. |
| [20:17:00] | ledhed: | my cases have IR windows so I built them into the case and hard wired them to the motherboards |
| [20:18:00] | JeffH: | aah.. hmm.. wonder if the case I'm looking at has an IR window. |
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| [20:18:00] | ledhed: | doubt it |
| [20:18:00] | ledhed: | not many out there |
| [20:18:00] | JeffH: | me too. |
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| [20:18:00] | ledhed: | you can get creative. the eye is about the size of a LED. replace the HD indicator lite with the IR eye |
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| [20:18:00] | JeffH: | led: would you mind e-mailing me that parts list and the make/model of your case? |
| [20:19:00] | ledhed: | no prob. let me round it up |
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| [20:21:00] | djperegrine: | when I type mythtv |
| [20:21:00] | djperegrine: | it says |
| [20:22:00] | djperegrine: | sorry |
| [20:22:00] | djperegrine: | mythtvsetup |
| [20:22:00] | djperegrine: | it says |
| [20:22:00] | djperegrine: | bash-2.05b# mythsetup |
| [20:22:00] | djperegrine: | 2005-06–04 12:22:59.714 New DB connection, total: 1 |
| [20:22:00] | djperegrine: | then just hangs there |
| [20:22:00] | djperegrine: | it worked earlier :> |
| [20:22:00] | JonK: | mythtvsetup or mythtv-setup |
| [20:23:00] | djperegrine: | mythtvsetup not a command |
| [20:23:00] | djperegrine: | mythtv-setup sme thing |
| [20:23:00] | JeffH: | later all |
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| [20:24:00] | djperegrine: | :> |
| [20:24:00] | djperegrine: | wtf |
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| [20:27:00] | djperegrine: | where does mythtv install to in gentoo |
| [20:27:00] | djperegrine: | like all the config files |
| [20:32:00] | djperegrine: | ????????????/] |
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| [20:35:00] | djperegrine: | found it |
| [20:35:00] | __c4__: | anyone doing 1394 capture on a Motorola box? |
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| [20:38:00] | bretula: | I'm still getting messages like this, despite the capture card working flawlessly outside of MythTV, any ideas? 2005-06–04 12:37:54.523 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read(). |
| [20:38:00] | bretula: | Couldn't read file: rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/home/mythtv/buffer/ringbuf1.nuv |
| [20:39:00] | stoffel: | this is from the fe? check the be's messages |
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| [20:41:00] | JeepJerk: | don't suppose anyone knows the HFL and VFL for NTSC Tvs |
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| [20:42:00] | bretula: | stoffel, be isn't very informative: 2005-06–04 12:37:53.180 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| [20:42:00] | bretula: | 2005-06–04 12:37:53.200 Unknown video codec |
| [20:42:00] | bretula: | 2005-06–04 12:37:53.202 Please go into the TV Settings, Recording Profiles and |
| [20:42:00] | bretula: | 2005-06–04 12:37:53.204 setup the four 'Software Encoders' profiles. |
| [20:42:00] | bretula: | 2005-06–04 12:37:53.205 Assuming RTjpeg for now. |
| [20:42:00] | bretula: | 2005-06–04 12:37:53.206 NVR: Error, unknown audio codec |
| [20:42:00] | bretula: | 2005-06–04 12:37:53.224 NVR: Won't work with the streaming interface, falling back |
| [20:42:00] | bretula: | VIDOCGMBUF:: Invalid argument |
| [20:42:00] | sskk: | Hi – When I want to "watch TV", It says that the input is taken from "1: S-Video0". Now how do I change that to the Tuner0 instead? |
| [20:43:00] | stoffel: | bretula: try changing the master's ip address to it's public address, |
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| [20:46:00] | jcollins: | since attempting to upgrade from 0.17 to 0.18 I've been getting the following errors from either attempting to watch Live TV or fill the DB: 'Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION:' |
| [20:46:00] | stoffel: | jcollins: all fe/be need to run the same version of mythtv |
| [20:47:00] | jcollins: | stoffel frontend and backend are the same machine running 0.18 afaik |
| [20:47:00] | bretula: | stoffel, where do I do that? |
| [20:47:00] | stoffel: | bretula: in mythtv-setup |
| [20:48:00] | jcollins: | yes, frontend and backend are the 0.18 debian packages |
| [20:49:00] | stoffel: | jcollins: hm, try to shut down the fe and restart the be |
| [20:49:00] | bretula: | stoffel, no go, any other ideas? |
| [20:50:00] | djperegrine: | does mythfilldatabase take forever? |
| [20:50:00] | stoffel: | bretula: some driver problem? 'VIDOCGMBUF:: Invalid argument' |
| [20:51:00] | stoffel: | or you configured the wrong the type of capture card |
| [20:51:00] | stoffel: | maybe |
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| [20:51:00] | djperegrine: | for the first time |
| [20:51:00] | bretula: | stoffel, I can watch TV fine with "mplayer /dev/video1" |
| [20:52:00] | bretula: | I'll try changing the card type |
| [20:52:00] | mmschnei: | what do the little icons at the bottom of the recorded shows mean? I see a trash can, a heart, and a crossed out dollar sign. I think the trash = allow auto-exprie and the Dollar X'd out = commercials removed... |
| [20:52:00] | stoffel: | mmschnei: press f1 |
| [20:52:00] | mmschnei: | thanks =) |
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| [20:53:00] | mmschnei: | Hrmm, odd, wonder why some are "bookmarked" while others are not |
| [20:53:00] | ** briand is installing MythTV, following the Fedora Myth(TV)ology::HOWTO guide... ** | |
| [20:55:00] | jcollins: | stoffel: looks like the 0.17 lib was still present... |
| [20:55:00] | briand: | I've installed ivtv (including the ivtvdev), and his instructions go on to tell how to edit modprobe.conf for PVR-250, PVR-250MCE, and PVR-350 users who aren't using the 350's TV out. Well, I *am* using the 350's TV Out (or, at least, I hope to!)... so what do I do? |
| [20:56:00] | mmschnei: | OMFG, commercial skipping is SWEET! |
| [20:56:00] | ** mmschnei huggles myth ** | |
| [20:57:00] | djperegrine: | basicly why I am getting it :P |
| [20:57:00] | mmschnei: | meh, it has many other nice features, but yeah, its a definite plus |
| [20:58:00] | mmschnei: | I was worried about the algorithms effectiveness but I shall give it time to prove that. |
| [20:58:00] | bretula: | stoffel, card type was wrong, but it's changed nothing... Still get RingBuffer errors, same messages on backend. |
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| [20:58:00] | ** mmschnei goes back to re-writing the ati_remote driver ** | |
| [20:58:00] | briand: | I've installed ivtv (including the ivtvdev), and his instructions go on to tell how to edit modprobe.conf for PVR-250, PVR-250MCE, and PVR-350 users who aren't using the 350's TV out. Well, I *am* using the 350's TV Out (or, at least, I hope to!)... so what do I do? |
| [20:59:00] | stoffel: | bretula: you restarted the be? |
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| [20:59:00] | bretula: | stoffel, no, didn't realize I needed to! |
| [21:00:00] | bretula: | stoffel, YES, that was needed to get it to recognize the change in the card type. THANK YOU |
| [21:00:00] | stoffel: | he, cool |
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| [21:01:00] | djperegrine: | :> |
| [21:01:00] | djperegrine: | /etc/init.d/mythbackend stop |
| [21:01:00] | djperegrine: | * Stopping myth backend... |
| [21:01:00] | djperegrine: | start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 6975: No such process [ !! ] |
| [21:02:00] | djperegrine: | /etc/init.d/mythbackend status |
| [21:02:00] | djperegrine: | * status: started |
| [21:02:00] | djperegrine: | /etc/init.d/mythbackend start |
| [21:02:00] | djperegrine: | * WARNING: "mythbackend" has already been started. |
| [21:02:00] | djperegrine: | /etc/init.d/mythbackend start |
| [21:02:00] | djperegrine: | * |
| [21:02:00] | djperegrine: | * root is not in the audio group |
| [21:02:00] | djperegrine: | * root is not in the video group |
| [21:02:00] | djperegrine: | * |
| [21:02:00] | djperegrine: | * insufficient permissions discovered |
| [21:02:00] | djperegrine: | * mythbackend may not start correctly |
| [21:02:00] | djperegrine: | * |
| [21:02:00] | djperegrine: | * Starting myth backend... [ ok ] |
| [21:02:00] | djperegrine: | :> |
| [21:03:00] | djperegrine: | but they are |
| [21:03:00] | ** briand types "man ivtv" in a futile maneuver to ascertain some info. Receives a "No manual entry for ivtv" in response. ** | |
| [21:06:00] | ** briand starts counting ceiling tiles. ** | |
| [21:06:00] | briand: | damn. there aren't any ceiling tiles here. shit. |
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| [21:07:00] | bretula: | Holy crap, I have Live TV. |
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| [21:08:00] | bretula: | Now all I have to do is figure out how to get the remote working and get it to automatically change channels on the DirecTV box, and I'm where I thought I would be five months ago! |
| [21:08:00] | jcollins: | grrr this 0.18 upgrade has been a beast |
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| [21:12:00] | jcollins: | time to simply flush it and start over... |
| [21:13:00] | epoch: | anyone here used mythfm? |
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| [21:14:00] | ** Beirdo cues some A-Team ** | |
| [21:14:00] | Beirdo: | oh look, it's Captain_Murdoch :) |
| [21:14:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:14:00] | Beirdo: | dammit |
| [21:14:00] | Beirdo: | I can't drink coffee lying down |
| [21:15:00] | epoch: | Beirdo: you need a straw |
| [21:15:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:15:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [21:15:00] | ** Beirdo half sits up ** | |
| [21:15:00] | Beirdo: | home, sweet couch |
| [21:16:00] | Beirdo: | and no chain-smoked Marlboro Red... ahhhh! |
| [21:16:00] | epoch: | I've got the same thing going on |
| [21:16:00] | epoch: | except for the smokes |
| [21:16:00] | epoch: | filthy habit |
| [21:16:00] | Beirdo: | my friend smokes like 3 packs a day |
| [21:16:00] | xris: | Beirdo: welcome home |
| [21:16:00] | epoch: | ew |
| [21:16:00] | Beirdo: | I'm so glad to be away from THAT |
| [21:16:00] | Beirdo: | heya, xris :) |
| [21:16:00] | epoch: | ah |
| [21:16:00] | epoch: | that stuff is gross |
| [21:17:00] | Beirdo: | I'll smoke a cigar once in a while |
| [21:17:00] | Beirdo: | somewhere well ventilated |
| [21:17:00] | Beirdo: | but that ciggie crap is frigging annoying |
| [21:17:00] | epoch: | can't do cigars anymore |
| [21:17:00] | epoch: | they're too gross |
| [21:17:00] | Beirdo: | you bite your tongue :) |
| [21:17:00] | Beirdo: | no inhaling |
| [21:17:00] | epoch: | haha |
| [21:17:00] | epoch: | right |
| [21:18:00] | epoch: | I did that once |
| [21:18:00] | epoch: | bad plan |
| [21:18:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:18:00] | Beirdo: | so did I. |
| [21:18:00] | Beirdo: | once |
| [21:18:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:18:00] | Beirdo: | out of about 40 cigars I've smoked :) |
| [21:18:00] | epoch: | heh |
| [21:18:00] | Beirdo: | I coughed for about 20 minutes straight |
| [21:18:00] | Beirdo: | don't be inhaling that stuff |
| [21:19:00] | Beirdo: | maybe once it's nicely dispersed, but not right outta the cigar :) |
| [21:19:00] | ** epoch shudders ** | |
| [21:20:00] | laga: | hi Beirdo |
| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | heya, laga |
| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | how's life in Germany? |
| [21:20:00] | laga: | fine, fine. and in canada? ;) |
| [21:21:00] | Beirdo: | not bad, just got back last night |
| [21:21:00] | ** laga does the 'new hdd and no room in the friggin file server' dance ** | |
| [21:21:00] | laga: | heh |
| [21:21:00] | laga: | did you enjoy your trip? |
| [21:21:00] | Beirdo: | Tennessee was fun, but I'm glad to be home |
| [21:22:00] | laga: | heh |
| [21:22:00] | xris: | Beirdo: I think I'm about 11 episodes away from a complete good eats collection. :) |
| [21:22:00] | epoch: | holy shit |
| [21:22:00] | epoch: | ivtv fm tuner works perfectly |
| [21:22:00] | epoch: | this is hot |
| [21:22:00] | Beirdo: | had just about enough Marlboro smoking to last me a lifetime |
| [21:22:00] | Beirdo: | xris: now that's cool |
| [21:22:00] | Beirdo: | mmmm. Second Cup La Manita |
| [21:22:00] | Beirdo: | good Costa Rican coffee |
| [21:23:00] | laga: | <- jever pilsener. heh. |
| [21:23:00] | ** laga lights a gauloises blondes ** | |
| [21:23:00] | Beirdo: | ewww |
| [21:23:00] | laga: | way better than marlboro, trust me |
| [21:23:00] | Beirdo: | that's even worse |
| [21:23:00] | laga: | heh |
| [21:24:00] | Beirdo: | unfiltered yucky cigarettes :) |
| [21:24:00] | Beirdo: | I'll take unfiltered cigars any day of the week |
| [21:24:00] | laga: | filtered cigarettes. i'm not smoking gauloises prunes ;) |
| [21:25:00] | Beirdo: | the extra aging and fermenting makes a world of difference |
| [21:25:00] | laga: | yep |
| [21:25:00] | Beirdo: | we had fake Cohibas |
| [21:25:00] | laga: | heh |
| [21:25:00] | Beirdo: | they were OK for what they were, but they weren't Cohiba |
| [21:25:00] | ** laga ain't much of a cigar expert ** | |
| [21:26:00] | laga: | but i know a good one when i taste it :> |
| [21:26:00] | Beirdo: | and for $12 each, no WAY it was real Cohiba :) |
| [21:26:00] | laga: | :) |
| [21:26:00] | laga: | brb |
| [21:26:00] | Beirdo: | that size in a real Cohiba is > $50 |
| [21:28:00] | xris: | Beirdo: have you noticed lately that nuvexport doesn't get a total-frame count from transcode? |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | nope, haven't used it in a couple weeks :) |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | transcode-- |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | and I usually use ffmpeg for much of my stuff anyways |
| [21:28:00] | xris: | yeah. but ffmpeg sucks for xvid |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | does http://trac.beirdo.ca work after my reboots? |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | I don't do xvid :) |
| [21:29:00] | xris: | seems to hang |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | hang? |
| [21:29:00] | xris: | load...load...load... |
| [21:29:00] | xris: | but no content |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | OK, gimme a sec |
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| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | did that help? |
| [21:30:00] | jasoncohen: | how long would it take to do a divx/xvid transcode of a 640x480 hour show? |
| [21:30:00] | laga: | re |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | jasoncohen: try it and find out |
| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | xris: it works from internal |
| [21:32:00] | xris: | ahh, for mpeg files, the total frames is calculated from lastgup |
| [21:32:00] | xris: | last_gop |
| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [21:33:00] | xris: | and so if the file hasn't been flagged, it comes in as zero |
| [21:33:00] | Beirdo: | umm |
| [21:33:00] | xris: | so nevermind, it's just this one recording, then. |
| [21:33:00] | Beirdo: | it should |
| [21:33:00] | Beirdo: | the GOP markings go in as it's recorded |
| [21:33:00] | Beirdo: | AFAIK |
| [21:34:00] | xris: | I wipe out recordedmarkup occasionally if I want to reflag commercials. |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | ahhh |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | that would do it |
| [21:34:00] | xris: | but this particular file was an orphan that I reinserted manually |
| [21:34:00] | xris: | yeah, the rest of the files are fine. |
| [21:36:00] | Beirdo: | the sunburn don't sting like yesterday :) |
| [21:37:00] | Beirdo: | OK, Trac working externally again |
| [21:37:00] | laga: | and i thought geeks would melt in the sun |
| [21:38:00] | Beirdo: | at least it is from my linode |
| [21:38:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:38:00] | Beirdo: | I'm a country geek |
| [21:38:00] | laga: | oh, heh. |
| [21:38:00] | Beirdo: | I was out earlier in the week for 3h on a beautiful sunny day |
| [21:38:00] | Beirdo: | by the pool :) |
| [21:38:00] | Beirdo: | got a touch pink |
| [21:38:00] | laga: | you got the red neck from the cathode ray emissions, right? ;) |
| [21:39:00] | Beirdo: | then yesterday, I had my arm out the window of the car for 2h on the way to the airport |
| [21:39:00] | Beirdo: | and re-burned my right arm a bit |
| [21:39:00] | laga: | hehe. |
| [21:40:00] | laga: | my driving instructor yelled at me for doing that. idiot. ;) |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | were you driving at the time? |
| [21:40:00] | laga: | yep |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | that's why |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | I was a passenger :) |
| [21:40:00] | laga: | heh |
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| [21:40:00] | djpere_gentoo: | Ok |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | which is how I burned the rignt arm, not the left |
| [21:40:00] | laga: | he was one, too. so why does he complain?! ;) |
| [21:40:00] | djpere_gentoo: | mythtvbackend is not working |
| [21:41:00] | laga: | Beirdo: you're so not british. |
| [21:41:00] | djpere_gentoo: | bash-2.05b# /etc/init.d/mythbackend restart |
| [21:41:00] | djpere_gentoo: | * Stopping myth backend... |
| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | laga: doing it WHILE driving is not "supposed" to be done |
| [21:41:00] | djpere_gentoo: | bash-2.05b# /etc/init.d/mythbackend restart |
| [21:41:00] | djpere_gentoo: | * Stopping myth backend... |
| [21:41:00] | djpere_gentoo: | start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 6360: No such process [ !! ] |
| [21:42:00] | djpere_gentoo: | what do I do ? |
| [21:42:00] | djpere_gentoo: | mythsetup works |
| [21:42:00] | laga: | Beirdo: my arm wasn out of the window, i was just leaning it against the door |
| [21:42:00] | djpere_gentoo: | mythfrontend works ( it says it can't connect) |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | djpere_gentoo: why are you using restart instead of start? |
| [21:42:00] | djpere_gentoo: | start works |
| [21:42:00] | djpere_gentoo: | **worked |
| [21:43:00] | djpere_gentoo: | I already did start |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | then look at your logs |
| [21:43:00] | djpere_gentoo: | bash-2.05b# /etc/init.d/mythbackend start |
| [21:43:00] | djpere_gentoo: | * Starting myth backend... [ ok ] |
| [21:43:00] | djpere_gentoo: | where are the logs? |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | wherever they are put |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | I dunno |
| [21:44:00] | djpere_gentoo: | ? |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | ask Cardoe |
| [21:45:00] | ** xris is down to TWO shows in his mythtv recording list. ** | |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | wow |
| [21:45:00] | dopester: | tv-aholics |
| [21:45:00] | ** laga is an alcoholic. ;) ** | |
| [21:46:00] | Beirdo: | A-Team rules |
| [21:46:00] | ** laga wants to be mr. t ** | |
| [21:46:00] | clay: | sucka |
| [21:46:00] | dopester: | i pity da fool who don't use mythtv |
| [21:47:00] | Beirdo: | ah man. |
| [21:47:00] | Beirdo: | I gotta tear a computer apart and replace the powersupply |
| [21:47:00] | Beirdo: | blech |
| [21:48:00] | laga: | Beirdo: heh. |
| [21:48:00] | laga: | Beirdo: i got the old computer stuff from my dad's office. |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:48:00] | laga: | Beirdo: i powered the server on today and noticed that the fan in the PSU failed...they were lucky that they threw it out right in time |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, no shit |
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| [21:49:00] | Beirdo: | mine died just as my flight to Nashville took off |
| [21:49:00] | __c4__: | anyone doing 1394 capture? |
| [21:49:00] | laga: | i still gotta steal their usv. it sits there since 3 months, doing nothing because nobody knows what it is. |
| [21:49:00] | laga: | Beirdo: murphy's law. |
| [21:50:00] | Beirdo: | it's the law of vacations |
| [21:50:00] | Beirdo: | every fuckin time I go on vacation, my computers eat themselves |
| [21:50:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [21:51:00] | jcollins: | anyone here seen this error: 'audio waiting for buffer to fill: have 3072 want 4096' |
| [21:51:00] | Beirdo: | I was already starting to replace it though |
| [21:52:00] | jcollins: | Beirdo: it's their cry for attention |
| [21:53:00] | Beirdo: | they need to behave or I'll kill them good |
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| [21:54:00] | djpere-gentoo: | ok the logs say |
| [21:54:00] | djpere-gentoo: | No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP. |
| [21:54:00] | djpere-gentoo: | Please run setup on this machine and modify the first page |
| [21:54:00] | djpere-gentoo: | of the general settings. |
| [21:54:00] | Beirdo: | there ya go |
| [21:54:00] | djpere-gentoo: | but they are |
| [21:55:00] | jcollins: | alright, I've reinstalled 0.18 on my box and I'm right back to the same problem that was plaguing me since upgrading from 0.16 |
| [21:56:00] | jcollins: | if I run the bloody app under gdb it works fine... |
| [21:56:00] | jcollins: | if I run the app outside of gdb it segfaults... or halts at a black screen with the above error |
| [21:58:00] | jcollins: | ideas? |
| [21:58:00] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [21:59:00] | jcollins: | it wouldn't even be bad if I could find a way to run it under gdb automatically with no intervention |
| [21:59:00] | jcollins: | but I don't seem to be able to |
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| [22:06:00] | jcollins: | just found a way to... |
| [22:07:00] | jcollins: | so at least it works now... klunky as hell, but works |
| [22:07:00] | Beirdo: | it's funny how much space I regularly use now for video |
| [22:08:00] | Beirdo: | I remember the days of 30MB hard drives |
| [22:08:00] | Beirdo: | and now, 2G/hr is just fine. hehe |
| [22:08:00] | djpere-gentoo: | help anyone? |
| [22:12:00] | cygdev: | had the same problem. just touching the settings seemed to helped |
| [22:15:00] | sskk: | How can I avoid a full system reboot, after updating the ivtv – setup file, and still see my changes in action? |
| [22:16:00] | djpere-gentoo: | ok |
| [22:16:00] | djpere-gentoo: | I think I got it |
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| [22:18:00] | djpere-gentoo: | Yay! |
| [22:18:00] | djpere-gentoo: | it works! |
| [22:18:00] | mmschnei: | GreyFoxx: just an an FYI my brain finally started working and i am pretty certain I have the driver set up right, almost done editing now. I was thinking I should change the hex values before, but then I realized BOTH of them were inputs. |
| [22:19:00] | mmschnei: | GreyFoxx: also, I'm twisted_one, nick was ghosted earlier |
| [22:19:00] | mmschnei is now known as twisted_one | |
| [22:19:00] | twisted_one: | Bah the clock on my Mythbox was off by 12 minutes (never checked since install a month ago) |
| [22:20:00] | twisted_one: | and now my entire marathon of "Myth Busters" was askew |
| [22:20:00] | cygdev: | good. have no clue how and why that works :-) |
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| [22:55:00] | cygdev: | twisted_one: use ntp |
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| [23:19:00] | djpere-gentoo: | What is the defualt folder for the files ? |
| [23:19:00] | djpere-gentoo: | like the shows |
| [23:19:00] | djpere-gentoo: | where it records |
| [23:21:00] | xris: | djpere-gentoo: usually you have to set that up on first-run |
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| [23:23:00] | cygdev: | /mnt/store |
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| [23:30:00] | twisted_one: | cygdev: I'm going to use rdate instead =) |
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| [23:32:00] | briand: | when i load ivtv-fb ...i am not getting a reasonable video signal on the tv-out ... |
| [23:34:00] | briand: | well, nobody has responded to, or reacted to absolutely anything i've typed in this channel over the past 12 hours.. i don't know why I thought they might start now. |
| [23:35:00] | laga: | briand: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| [23:37:00] | twisted_one: | laga: =P |
| [23:37:00] | laga: | SCNR. |
| [23:39:00] | briand: | okay, fine. 1) i'm following the web tutorial, to the letter. 2) I don't have a manual for ivtv 3) I've read the FAQ 4) I've been experimenting for the last 10 hours. 5) I thought *this* was where I'd find the "skilled friend" |
| [23:39:00] | briand: | but, thanks for being a smartass, anyway. |
| [23:40:00] | laga: | np. |
| [23:43:00] | laga: | geez, you made me feel bad. |
| [23:43:00] | laga: | ah, never mind. you didn't even bother to give us an actual error. |
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| [23:45:00] | rtsai: | nuvexport, ffmpeg, etc. Are people using these to transcode recorded TV, or to transcode DVD rips? |
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| [23:46:00] | Riff-Raff: | ist the pvr-500 usable with ivtv drivers? |
| [23:49:00] | briand: | gee, sorry you feel bad. |
| [23:49:00] | briand: | the actual error is |
| [23:49:00] | briand: | the video on the video out is unviewable. looks like no horizontal hold |
| [23:49:00] | briand: | no errors in /var/log/messages, no errors during loading, booting, etc. |
| [23:50:00] | Riff-Raff: | briand, you do not give much data to anyone wanting to help you |
| [23:50:00] | Riff-Raff: | ack, too late :) you just did |
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| [23:53:00] | Riff-Raff: | briand: are there any options you could give to the ivtv driver for the tv-output? |
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| [23:53:00] | dEdd: | hi all — I'd appreciate hints regarding transcoding. I have 18.1 working fine (with a pvr500) but do not get transcoding started. Does it require anything else — mencoder, say ? |
| [23:53:00] | briand: | Riff-Raff: I'll bet there are. |
| [23:54:00] | Riff-Raff: | because I do not know them I suggest you try to find out about them |
| [23:54:00] | briand: | I do not know them, either. That is what I thought I was going to find here. |
| [23:54:00] | Riff-Raff: | well, because no-one present seems to know them you need to move to option #2 |
| [23:55:00] | briand: | option 2, being? |
| [23:55:00] | Riff-Raff: | finding them out |
| [23:55:00] | Riff-Raff: | what tutorial are you using, btw |
| [23:55:00] | briand: | the one titled "Fedora Myth(TV)ology::HOWTO |
| [23:56:00] | briand: | following it line for line, where it doesn't deviate from reality |
| [23:57:00] | briand: | I'm sure that last aside may have you wondering, so let me just say that, at the outset, where he suggests using xfs or ReiserFS for the /video partition, there is no such choice available within the Fedora Core 3 (or Core 2) Disk Druid |
| [23:57:00] | briand: | most of the rest of it has gone fine, until now. |
| [23:57:00] | Riff-Raff: | could you msg me the url, the links I get from google are out |
| [23:57:00] | briand: | if I unload the driver, the screen goes black |
| [23:58:00] | Riff-Raff: | you can also create the /video partition outside disk druid |
| [23:58:00] | Riff-Raff: | after installation |
| [23:58:00] | briand: | if i load it back (with or without test_image=1), I get the same weird output on the television |
| [23:58:00] | briand: | http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php?SID& . . . open#capture |
| [23:59:00] | splAt1 is now known as splat1 | |
| [23:59:00] | twisted_one: | weird is such a technical term =P |
| [23:59:00] | Riff-Raff: | in this tutorial there seem to be some commends for testing the outou http://www.willmer.com/kb/2005/04/mythtv-pvr-350-ubuntu/ |
| [23:59:00] | briand: | The machine is a Pundit-S (AB-P 2600) with an Asus motherboard, populated with a 2.0G Celeron D processor and 512MB of ram |
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