| Tuesday, May 31st, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | Ashlar: | true, I hunted for the 'automatically flag commercials' for a while, too |
| [00:00:00] | Leebier: | and my one other minor issue, i have a recordining that doesn't want to delete |
| [00:00:00] | Leebier: | either from Myth or MythWeb |
| [00:01:00] | Leebier: | everything else deletes fine, except this one episode of law and order |
| [00:01:00] | Ashlar: | any error? |
| [00:01:00] | Leebier: | let me restart the backend from the command line and check |
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| [00:03:00] | Leebier: | well, it's becaue the file doesn't exist |
| [00:04:00] | Leebier: | hmm |
| [00:04:00] | Leebier: | that makes it hard to delete :) |
| [00:04:00] | Leebier: | well, it says it doesn't remove the database metadata, how do i go about doing that manually? |
| [00:05:00] | Ashlar: | well, if the file is gone, you could touch it to recreate it |
| [00:05:00] | Ashlar: | then delete |
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| [00:05:00] | Leebier: | touch it? |
| [00:06:00] | Ashlar: | man touch.. |
| [00:06:00] | Ashlar: | :) |
| [00:06:00] | Leebier: | oh, it's a literal command |
| [00:06:00] | Leebier: | i figured it was slang for something :) |
| [00:06:00] | Ashlar: | touch /path/to/recordings/100x_200505110000_20050512000.nuv |
| [00:07:00] | Leebier: | and that will create a file w/ that name essentially (obviously i fill in my correct path and "missing" nuv file) |
| [00:07:00] | Ashlar: | yah |
| [00:08:00] | Leebier: | cool |
| [00:08:00] | Leebier: | curious |
| [00:08:00] | Leebier: | now it's not in the db at all |
| [00:09:00] | Ashlar: | ahh.. lol, then I misinterpreted your problem |
| [00:09:00] | Ashlar: | it deleted the metadata but couldn't find the file, eh? |
| [00:09:00] | Leebier: | no |
| [00:09:00] | Leebier: | you had it right |
| [00:10:00] | Leebier: | but there's nothing to delete now that i created the file |
| [00:10:00] | Leebier: | i "touched it" |
| [00:10:00] | Leebier: | but no delete to do afterwards |
| [00:10:00] | Ashlar: | yah, you can remove the file, too |
| [00:10:00] | Leebier: | which is fine, just surprising |
| [00:11:00] | Leebier: | just have to go back in the db and tell it to record that episode again sometime, but that's no big deal now |
| [00:12:00] | Ashlar: | yah, if you're up to it, you can remove it from the oldrecorded table |
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| [00:15:00] | Leebier: | that's what i was attempting to do |
| [00:15:00] | Leebier: | though it's not on the list that comes up in myth |
| [00:15:00] | Leebier: | so unless that is somehow different than the "real" one in mysql, it seems that myth never thought it recorded it at all |
| [00:15:00] | Ashlar: | ahh |
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| [00:18:00] | aim4min: | hello |
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| [00:22:00] | JeepJerk: | I can't get the latest CVS to compile |
| [00:22:00] | Agrajag-: | maybe you shouldn't be using cvs then |
| [00:23:00] | JeepJerk: | maybe I should because I think its fixing my segfault issue |
| [00:23:00] | JeepJerk: | I'm pretty sure its not me |
| [00:23:00] | JeepJerk: | tv_rec.cpp: In member function `bool TVRec::Init()': |
| [00:23:00] | JeepJerk: | tv_rec.cpp:130: error: cannot allocate an object of type `FirewireChannel' |
| [00:23:00] | JeepJerk: | tv_rec.cpp:130: error: because the following virtual functions are abstract: |
| [00:23:00] | JeepJerk: | channelbase.h:61: error: virtual int ChannelBase::GetFd() |
| [00:24:00] | Agrajag-: | i didn't say it was you.. but if you want to use latest cvs, expect things like that |
| [00:24:00] | JeepJerk: | right, |
| [00:24:00] | JeepJerk: | but I thought maybe it might be an issue that should be fixed |
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| [00:25:00] | Agrajag-: | well i can see the problem, but without looking at the code i don't know how to fix it |
| [00:27:00] | JeepJerk: | well here's the line in channelbase.h: virtual int GetFd() = 0; |
| [00:28:00] | Agrajag-: | well you could possibly just remove virtual |
| [00:28:00] | Agrajag-: | and the = 0; |
| [00:28:00] | Agrajag-: | and put "return 0" or something in the GetFd(); |
| [00:29:00] | Agrajag-: | if you're using firewire channels you'll most likely be breaking things and they wont work |
| [00:29:00] | Agrajag-: | but if you aren't, tha tmight make it compile, i dunno |
| [00:29:00] | JeepJerk: | I'm using them |
| [00:29:00] | Agrajag-: | ok then don't do that it'll probably not work :P |
| [00:33:00] | JeepJerk: | well I found the declaration of class FirewireChannel : public ChannelBase |
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| [00:33:00] | JeepJerk: | and sure enough theres no GetFd() in it |
| [00:34:00] | JeepJerk: | so what do you suppose GetFd() does? |
| [00:34:00] | Agrajag-: | i'd say it's reponsible for getting a file descriptor |
| [00:34:00] | Agrajag-: | for what file, i have no idea |
| [00:35:00] | JeepJerk: | well the inherited class is ./libs/libmythtv/channelbase.h |
| [00:36:00] | JeepJerk: | and the derived class is ./libs/libmythtv/firewirechannel.h |
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| [00:45:00] | herbalchild: | hey i want to get a tv tuner and setup myth, what would be the best one to buy? |
| [00:45:00] | JeepJerk: | well deleting the = 0 requirment made it compile, do you think that was a bad idea? |
| [00:46:00] | JeepJerk: | get an ATI all in wonder |
| [00:46:00] | herbalchild: | ati support for linux is a joke |
| [00:47:00] | herbalchild: | i jus want a tuner not a video card |
| [00:47:00] | JeepJerk: | just seeing if you were paying attention |
| [00:47:00] | JeepJerk: | :) |
| [00:47:00] | herbalchild: | XD |
| [00:47:00] | JeepJerk: | people seem to like the PVR-250 |
| [00:47:00] | JeepJerk: | I use firewire |
| [00:48:00] | herbalchild: | hmm firewire is nice but i got usb 2.0 so it wouldent be that bad |
| [00:48:00] | JeepJerk: | usb is unrelated |
| [00:49:00] | JeepJerk: | I just bought a $20 PCI firewire card and I was good to go |
| [00:49:00] | JeepJerk: | course you need the right cable box |
| [00:49:00] | herbalchild: | hmm, i have digital boxes |
| [00:50:00] | JeepJerk: | the motorola 6200 is the best supported here |
| [00:51:00] | herbalchild: | i have a motorola...not sure which model |
| [00:51:00] | JeepJerk: | is there firewire on the back? |
| [00:51:00] | herbalchild: | lemme see |
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| [00:52:00] | herbalchild: | nope |
| [00:52:00] | JeepJerk: | guess that hack didn't work: ../../libs/libmythtv/libmythtv-0.18.so: undefined reference to `ChannelBase::GetFd()' |
| [00:55:00] | JeepJerk: | who's your provider? |
| [00:56:00] | herbalchild: | adelphia |
| [00:56:00] | herbalchild: | theyre about to be bought out by comcast |
| [00:56:00] | JeepJerk: | they should allow you to upgrade to the 6200 for free |
| [00:57:00] | herbalchild: | theyve already filed for bankruptcy |
| [00:57:00] | JeepJerk: | they have closets full of them |
| [00:57:00] | herbalchild: | tru, imma give em a call and see |
| [00:57:00] | JeepJerk: | They're being bought by comcast now tho aren't they? |
| [00:57:00] | herbalchild: | yea but it will take awhile before it really becomes comcast |
| [00:58:00] | JeepJerk: | I have adelphia too |
| [00:58:00] | herbalchild: | im mad about it actually because with adelphia i get 4mbit/1mbit |
| [00:58:00] | herbalchild: | and comcast gives less than that |
| [00:59:00] | JeepJerk: | I've never gotten my 1mbit |
| [00:59:00] | JeepJerk: | >:O |
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| [00:59:00] | herbalchild: | my up isnt too bad i can pull like 110kb/s up |
| [01:00:00] | JeepJerk: | all I know is playing halo 2 has sucked big time since I switched |
| [01:01:00] | herbalchild: | well my only options are adelphia which gives me decent service or bellsouth....and theyre evil |
| [01:01:00] | JeepJerk: | my only options are adelphia |
| [01:01:00] | JeepJerk: | moved from an area with charter |
| [01:02:00] | JeepJerk: | and they were putting in door to door fiber when I left |
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| [01:02:00] | herbalchild: | heh, i guess ive been lucky with adelphia, ive had decent service...bellsouth was a nightmare, and theyre tech support was a joke |
| [01:02:00] | scotepi: | how do i change my program guid offset? it curently thinks my system time is GMT (i think) its 4–5 hours off |
| [01:04:00] | scotepi: | i saw it at one proint but i cant find it again, ive chack mythsetup and mythfrontend |
| [01:05:00] | cortezda1imp: | i highly recommend getting fiber |
| [01:05:00] | cortezda1imp: | fiber is the SHIT |
| [01:06:00] | Ashlar: | hah.. I work for Verizon, and I'll be getting FTTP this fall :) |
| [01:07:00] | Ashlar: | 10mbit down, 5 up |
| [01:07:00] | herbalchild: | holy shit |
| [01:07:00] | Ashlar: | LPB extreme! |
| [01:07:00] | scotepi: | anyone rember whare the guide offset option is? |
| [01:07:00] | JeepJerk: | see I miss Verizon |
| [01:08:00] | Ashlar: | scotepi: sources in mythtv-setup, i b'leve |
| [01:08:00] | JeepJerk: | scotepi: it uses your system time |
| [01:08:00] | scotepi: | k |
| [01:09:00] | scotepi: | my systemtime is 8pm but shows that are on at 8 are showing up at 12pm tonight in the guide |
| [01:09:00] | JeepJerk: | is your timezone correct? |
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| [01:11:00] | scotepi: | Ashlar, wasnt there |
| [01:11:00] | Ashlar: | hrmm.. let me look |
| [01:11:00] | Ashlar: | but also check your timezone as JeepJerk suggested |
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| [01:11:00] | scotepi: | date gives me Sun May 29 20:11:06 EDT 2005 so i dont think thats the problome |
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| [01:12:00] | Ashlar: | and you're in EDT? |
| [01:12:00] | scotepi: | yes |
| [01:12:00] | scotepi: | the guide is reading as PST |
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| [01:13:00] | JeepJerk: | have you changed the timezone since you loaded the program data? |
| [01:13:00] | cortezda1imp: | ashlar: thats cool. i have 5/2 cuz its only $35 and its plenty |
| [01:14:00] | cortezda1imp: | ^^^ mbps |
| [01:14:00] | scotepi: | nm, it just fixed its self |
| [01:14:00] | scotepi: | JeepJerk, yeah, i think that was the problome |
| [01:15:00] | scotepi: | is there and faster way to get to program guide thento go through recordings? |
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| [01:16:00] | Ashlar: | tv.. schedule recordings.. program guide |
| [01:16:00] | JeepJerk: | yes |
| [01:17:00] | JeepJerk: | live tv and then the program guide button |
| [01:17:00] | cortezda1imp: | or go to http://myth/mythweb ;) |
| [01:17:00] | JeepJerk: | I don't really watch live tv anymore so I don't remember the button |
| [01:17:00] | JeepJerk: | cortez: that'd be what I'd do |
| [01:18:00] | Chessman: | Hi all, I have a question. One that is driving me crazy. I have my PVR250 recording channels 3 – 70 through the tuner and want to set up my firewire port to records everything above channel 70. Do I just setup two accounts with Zapit? One for each tuner? |
| [01:18:00] | scotepi: | lol, shit i think i have a program recording how to i cancle it? |
| [01:18:00] | JeepJerk: | I think its r in the program guide? |
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| [01:19:00] | JeepJerk: | chessman that'd work but aren't they the same listings? |
| [01:20:00] | GeckoFiend: | scotepi you can always go to the upcoming recordings scren... |
| [01:20:00] | Chessman: | JeepJerk, they are the same listing. I'm I over thinking this? |
| [01:20:00] | GeckoFiend: | Chessman one account two lineups |
| [01:20:00] | Chessman: | How does myth know which line up to use? |
| [01:20:00] | GeckoFiend: | you tell it to |
| [01:20:00] | scotepi: | wtf, i keep cancling it and it goes to the next show |
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| [01:21:00] | Chessman: | Er... is that an option in the channel setup screen? |
| [01:23:00] | Chessman: | GeckoFiend, Is that an option in the channel setup screen? Since I haven't setup two lineups, I must have missed it. |
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| [01:25:00] | Chessman: | Either I'm split or I just asked a really dumb question. :-) |
| [01:29:00] | JeepJerk: | just tell both inputs to use the same lineup in mythtv-setup |
| [01:29:00] | scotepi: | watching TV live its really laged, but when i watch the recordings thers no lag at all. i have a bt878 card, any fix? or do i just have realy high setting for watching live? normaly it only takes 30% to watch live and 60% to record, mytv is only at about 40% cpu recording |
| [01:30:00] | Chessman: | JeepJerk, I'll give it a shot, brb. |
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| [01:30:00] | Cardoe: | Scorpi: it's your disk I/O that can't keep up probably |
| [01:31:00] | GeckoFiend: | JeepJerk that' |
| [01:31:00] | GeckoFiend: | that's the wonrg thing to do |
| [01:31:00] | JeepJerk: | whys that? |
| [01:31:00] | GeckoFiend: | because one gets <70 the other > 70 if you tell both to use the same line up myth will think they can both get all the channels |
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| [01:32:00] | scotepi: | Cardoe, lol, i have my buffer on 1 hdd and my recordings on the other, my buffers is the main hdd, but there both SATA |
| [01:32:00] | mortal5: | does anyone have a pvr 250? |
| [01:32:00] | GeckoFiend: | Chessman you just need to create the two sources and bind one to the 250 the other to the firewire |
| [01:32:00] | GeckoFiend: | mortal5 lots and lots of us do |
| [01:32:00] | mortal5: | GeckoFiend heh, i figured |
| [01:33:00] | JeepJerk: | hey, he found it |
| [01:33:00] | mortal5: | can it do hdtv, or fm radio? |
| [01:33:00] | scotepi: | also, is there any solution at all to the winmyth problome of Common Language Runtime Debuggin? |
| [01:33:00] | mortal5: | yup :^) |
| [01:33:00] | Cardoe: | mortal5: no HDTV |
| [01:33:00] | mortal5: | ok |
| [01:33:00] | GeckoFiend: | mortal5 and no fm unless you get the MCE version |
| [01:33:00] | Cardoe: | scotepi: get the right .NET runtime? |
| [01:33:00] | mortal5: | ok |
| [01:34:00] | scotepi: | its the latest from windows update |
| [01:34:00] | Cardoe: | scotepi: well then your processor isn't fast enough... or your settings are too high |
| [01:34:00] | mortal5: | I heard the hd 3000 can do hdtv, but I head it doesn't work with cable |
| [01:34:00] | Cardoe: | scotepi: maybe he built it with newer... like .NET 2.0 beta |
| [01:35:00] | scotepi: | i dobut anyone would releas a program on beta frameworks |
| [01:35:00] | GeckoFiend: | mortal5 the HDTV3k and Air2PC both can do QAM |
| [01:35:00] | mortal5: | you would think, it would be able to accept input from the cable or sat box, but so far nobody has replyed to me |
| [01:35:00] | JeepJerk: | scotepi: its not a release ;) |
| [01:35:00] | mortal5: | (hd email) |
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| [01:36:00] | GeckoFiend: | mortal5 neither of them will get you HD off a satellite |
| [01:36:00] | JeepJerk: | Mortal5: pretty sure that doesn't work |
| [01:36:00] | JeepJerk: | but I've never tried |
| [01:36:00] | GeckoFiend: | mortal5 you can always use firewire for Hd from your cable box |
| [01:36:00] | JeepJerk: | but if you have HD you should have firewire |
| [01:37:00] | JeepJerk: | Gecko types too fast :P |
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| [01:37:00] | mortal5: | GeckoFiend, you mean it's a straight firewire connection? |
| [01:37:00] | mortal5: | I have firewire in my sb |
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| [01:38:00] | scotepi: | its kind of funny, all the bugpost for winmyth are for the same problome with alot of people saying they have the same bug yet the developer says he cant reporduce it all, kind of funny, must be something he has that its accessing and he doesnt know |
| [01:38:00] | mortal5: | I'm kinda wondering if i really need hd right now, given the lack of programming for it |
| [01:39:00] | gnarface: | Cardoe: hints for compiling the latest unstable mythmusic on gentoo? |
| [01:40:00] | mortal5: | I have the opportunity to by a pvr 250 for $60 bucks, or I could buy a hd 3k for 150 |
| [01:40:00] | mortal5: | I think i'm going to go with pvr 2500 |
| [01:40:00] | JeepJerk: | mortal: if you have firewire you might as well just use that |
| [01:40:00] | mortal5: | JeepJerk well, I don't currently have dig cable |
| [01:41:00] | mortal5: | I have sat at my folks house |
| [01:41:00] | JeepJerk: | yeah those sat folks don't like firewire I noticed |
| [01:42:00] | scotepi: | i it worth upgrading froma bt878 card to one with onboard rendering? does it give alot of proformance boost? my CPU is midrange AMD 2800+ buarton (512k) |
| [01:42:00] | iggy: | gnarface: look through bugs.gentoo.org for workarounds/fixes |
| [01:43:00] | mortal5: | JeepJerk, so do you think a hd 3k would be a waste of money right now? |
| [01:43:00] | gnarface: | iggy: thanks. |
| [01:44:00] | iggy: | gnarface: oh, and stop using Gentoo, it's for ricer's and people that say 1337 |
| [01:45:00] | mortal5: | define 'ricer' lol |
| [01:45:00] | iggy: | if you want me to define it, you probably are one |
| [01:45:00] | gnarface: | haha. i've been told this. |
| [01:46:00] | gnarface: | it is for ricers. |
| [01:46:00] | JeepJerk: | mortal: I've never used one, but I'm not sure there's much to tune with it |
| [01:46:00] | gnarface: | but its still better than fucking redhat |
| [01:46:00] | mortal5: | so do you guys think the pvr 250 would be a better buy than hd 3k |
| [01:46:00] | mortal5: | esp since i can get the pvr 250 for like, a third less |
| [01:46:00] | JeepJerk: | for $60 I would |
| [01:46:00] | iggy: | mortal5: depends on what you want out of it, and how much local hdtv programming you can get |
| [01:46:00] | mortal5: | yeah |
| [01:46:00] | JeepJerk: | offer him $50 |
| [01:47:00] | mortal5: | JeepJerk nah, it's a friend, and he said he'd ship it for free |
| [01:48:00] | mortal5: | besides, there's a dude in my lug that would snatch it at the faintest chance |
| [01:49:00] | JeepJerk: | 60 it is |
| [01:49:00] | JeepJerk: | well I'm compiled |
| [01:49:00] | JeepJerk: | I've got some tv watching to do |
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| [01:50:00] | mortal5: | Oh, hey, is there anything you guys have noticed that you 'can't do in linux w the 250 vs windows? |
| [01:50:00] | mortal5: | trying to get a feel for how good the support is in linux |
| [01:53:00] | GeckoFiend: | mortal5 there's nothing you can do with it in windows that you can't do in linux. |
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| [02:01:00] | mortal5: | excelent |
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| [02:10:00] | Chessman: | GeckoFiend, Looks like Jeepjerk left, but I wanted to thank you guys, that did the trick. I didn't realize that the lineups showed as different in the channel setup screen. :-) |
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| [02:17:00] | scotepi: | whats a good sup $60 card on newegg? |
| [02:17:00] | scotepi: | *sub |
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| [02:23:00] | scotepi: | let me refrase, whats a good sub $60 card on newegg with a hardware mp2/4 encoder? |
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| [02:37:00] | Ashlar: | just found the http://mythic.tv site.. interesting "MythTV Store" |
| [02:38:00] | Ashlar: | heh |
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| [02:52:00] | ndb: | anyone know why i get ok audio when i use tvtime but when i use mythtv , i get some high pitch whining noise? |
| [02:54:00] | Chessman: | ndb, I'm not ignoring you, but I don't know. :-( |
| [02:54:00] | rpete: | scotepi, pvr150 is probably cheapest option these days |
| [02:55:00] | scotepi: | it had harware mp2? |
| [02:55:00] | rpete: | yes, but not mpeg4 |
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| [02:55:00] | scotepi: | top |
| [02:56:00] | scotepi: | hmmm... bug? i exited out of mythtv but the backen is still processing livetv |
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| [03:03:00] | scotepi: | kdetv |
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| [03:03:00] | scotepi: | too many windows :( |
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| [03:14:00] | scotepi: | anyone know why mythfrontent isnt muting the tv when it exits? |
| [03:14:00] | scotepi: | it can turn it on fine but it forgets to turn it off |
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| [04:41:00] | Mellofone: | does anyone know where the new mythtv stores its information for the database? |
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| [05:50:00] | Skif: | sigh, I had mythtv working at one point, then like an idiot, I said, "Hey, let's reinstall, so I'll know how to do it for sure next time." :) |
| [05:51:00] | Skif: | I think I've almost got it down, except the sound is loud and popping and making all sorts of weird noises besides the ones on the channel. I think it's the firmware version, but I can't seem to find one that doesn't suck. :) What's the best fw version for a pvr-150? |
| [05:52:00] | Skif: | I'm trying 0x02050032 right now, no love. I've tried 0x02040011, as the dmesg output recommends, but if I do that, I get a timeout when trying to watch live tv. |
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| [06:06:00] | GTswagger: | $ nuvexport |
| [06:06:00] | GTswagger: | Found 6 files, but no matching database entries. |
| [06:06:00] | GTswagger: | Perhaps you should try disabling require_cutlist? |
| [06:06:00] | GTswagger: | :( ... any ideas? |
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| [06:10:00] | Agrajag-: | what are you trying to do? |
| [06:10:00] | Agrajag-: | have you tried disabling require_cutlist? |
| [06:11:00] | GTswagger: | that's what I was after |
| [06:11:00] | GTswagger: | how to disable it |
| [06:11:00] | laga: | GTswagger: in your nuvexportrc |
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| [06:11:00] | GTswagger: | HOORAY! |
| [06:11:00] | GTswagger: | It works! |
| [06:12:00] | GTswagger: | Danke. I'm using the only nuvexport in portage.. I suppose the update to MythTV-0.18-r2 did it |
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| [06:21:00] | defaultro: | good evening guys |
| [06:21:00] | defaultro: | anyone seen xris? |
| [06:22:00] | kormoc: | not lately |
| [06:22:00] | defaultro: | or if anyone, I tried nuvexport but wondered why audio and video got out of sync starting at the middle of the recorded program |
| [06:22:00] | defaultro: | hi kormoc |
| [06:22:00] | defaultro: | do you use nuvexport? |
| [06:22:00] | kormoc: | hello |
| [06:22:00] | kormoc: | not really, no |
| [06:22:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:23:00] | Skif: | is anybody else here using a pvr-150 or 500? |
| [06:23:00] | defaultro: | nuvexport is cool but it could have been really ok if video and audio is synced until the end of the recorded program |
| [06:23:00] | defaultro: | i tried it 3 times but all the same results :( |
| [06:26:00] | Agrajag-: | defaultro: is the original nuv a dvb recording? |
| [06:26:00] | defaultro: | yup |
| [06:26:00] | defaultro: | via Air2pc |
| [06:27:00] | defaultro: | any tips how to fix it? |
| [06:27:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah – when you watch the video in myth, at the point where a/v sync goes out, does it look like the signal was weak for a second? |
| [06:27:00] | defaultro: | i never saw any issues when watching that nuv file in myth |
| [06:27:00] | Agrajag-: | does it jump just a little bit in myth? |
| [06:27:00] | defaultro: | nope |
| [06:28:00] | Agrajag-: | is it at a specific spot where the a/v sync goes out in the nuvexport'd file? |
| [06:28:00] | defaultro: | even when I go the the last 2 minutes of that show, a/v is still in sync |
| [06:28:00] | defaultro: | nope, starting 30 mins and to the end, it's out of sync |
| [06:28:00] | defaultro: | it's like audio is 2 secs ahead than video |
| [06:29:00] | Agrajag-: | so it does it gradually? |
| [06:29:00] | defaultro: | in the 30the minute, audio was 1 sec ahead |
| [06:29:00] | defaultro: | yup |
| [06:29:00] | xris: | defaultro: looking for me? |
| [06:29:00] | defaultro: | 30th was 1 sec audio ahead |
| [06:29:00] | Agrajag-: | http://gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/131411 |
| [06:29:00] | Agrajag-: | read that thread |
| [06:29:00] | defaultro: | 40th, was like 1/5 sec ahead |
| [06:29:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:29:00] | defaultro: | hi xris |
| [06:29:00] | Agrajag-: | not sure if it's the same problem though |
| [06:30:00] | defaultro: | xris, i was looking for help regarding nuvexport issue I am experiencing |
| [06:30:00] | xris: | ? |
| [06:30:00] | Agrajag-: | defaultro: pretty sure it's a dvb problem |
| [06:30:00] | Agrajag-: | well the way transcode/ffmpeg handles a/v sync of dvb mpeg recordings |
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| [06:32:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:32:00] | defaultro: | before I forget, I do remember that I used EPG once before |
| [06:33:00] | defaultro: | where does it get the program guide? Is it included in the broadcast stream? |
| [06:34:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah i think so |
| [06:34:00] | Agrajag-: | in the current transport stream i think |
| [06:34:00] | defaultro: | so I was right |
| [06:35:00] | defaultro: | my friend was insisting that my machine was getting the program guide from an internet site |
| [06:35:00] | defaultro: | but I told him that I didn't configure any URL during that time |
| [06:35:00] | Agrajag-: | nah that defeats the purpose of dvb epg |
| [06:35:00] | defaultro: | can you help me find a link that program guide is actually included in the stream? |
| [06:35:00] | defaultro: | so I can send it to him :) |
| [06:36:00] | defaultro: | but I also told him that it's only applicable to digital stream, im right right? |
| [06:36:00] | Agrajag-: | i think there's a tv_grab_dvb which does that |
| [06:36:00] | defaultro: | so it's really included in the broadcast stream right? |
| [06:36:00] | Agrajag-: | well dvb is digital video broadcast so i dunno what other kind of stream you're getting from dvb if it's not digital :P |
| [06:37:00] | Agrajag-: | http://www.darkskiez.co.uk/index.php?page=tv_grab_dvb |
| [06:37:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [06:37:00] | defaultro: | so it doesn't really pull the guide from a website |
| [06:38:00] | defaultro: | yeah, just so the ie there :) |
| [06:38:00] | Agrajag-: | tell him to get the source for tv_grab_dvb and see for himself |
| [06:39:00] | defaultro: | any other links? |
| [06:39:00] | defaultro: | somewhat like an RFC? |
| [06:39:00] | defaultro: | and tv_grab_dvb is a tool included in myth right? |
| [06:41:00] | Agrajag-: | no, did you even go to the link i just showed you |
| [06:41:00] | defaultro: | yep, i did |
| [06:41:00] | defaultro: | it's the tool used to extract the data from dvb broadcast |
| [06:42:00] | Agrajag-: | it's used to get the EPG info |
| [06:43:00] | defaultro: | ok. Btw, this reminds me of the program guide, how many days can we extract from it? |
| [06:43:00] | Agrajag-: | run it and run tcpdump at the same time and you'll see no internet site is being accessed. and you end up with epg data. so where else is it getting it from.. |
| [06:43:00] | defaultro: | cool |
| [06:43:00] | Agrajag-: | depends. here in australia there's only now/next info |
| [06:43:00] | defaultro: | but I remember back in Feb that I had about 6 days worth of data |
| [06:44:00] | defaultro: | some channels were empty though |
| [06:44:00] | Agrajag-: | well some channels might not be doing epg for you |
| [06:44:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [06:44:00] | defaultro: | so this tool is part of myth? |
| [06:45:00] | Agrajag-: | and in australia each channel has it's own TS, so you have to change to every single channel and get it's epg seperately |
| [06:45:00] | defaultro: | k |
| [06:46:00] | Agrajag-: | tv_grab_dvb isn't part of myth, no, but myth does have dvb epg handling |
| [06:47:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [06:47:00] | defaultro: | prolly the library that we used to compile myth |
| [06:47:00] | defaultro: | uses the same library that that tool you sent me use |
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| [06:49:00] | Agrajag-: | no.. that tool doesn't use a lib |
| [06:50:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [07:03:00] | defaultro: | Agrajag, btw, what is that Edit Recording when we play a recorded program? I noticed that we can insert cut point |
| [07:04:00] | defaultro: | is this useful only when transcoding? |
| [07:04:00] | Agrajag-: | err yeah that's the whole idea of editing a recording |
| [07:04:00] | Agrajag-: | no |
| [07:04:00] | Agrajag-: | when you watch it it'll skip the cuts |
| [07:04:00] | Agrajag-: | you dont need to transcode (transcoding will make it leave out those bits in the actual file though) |
| [07:21:00] | defaultro: | i tried it and it was quite cool |
| [07:22:00] | defaultro: | i added cutlist and it was awesome |
| [07:22:00] | defaultro: | i mean, before and after cutpoints :) |
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| [07:25:00] | Tarcastil: | what hardware not in a standard computer works best with mythtv? |
| [07:25:00] | mchou: | huh??? |
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| [07:26:00] | Tarcastil: | like, tv cards and such |
| [07:26:00] | mchou: | Tarcastil: you trying to be ridiculous on purpose?? |
| [07:26:00] | Tarcastil: | err, no |
| [07:26:00] | Tarcastil: | I don't know much about mythtv |
| [07:27:00] | Tarcastil: | someone said you need a tv card for it |
| [07:27:00] | defaultro: | hi mchou |
| [07:27:00] | mchou: | hey defaultro |
| [07:27:00] | defaultro: | it's just now that I tried Edit Recording, LOL |
| [07:27:00] | mchou: | defaultro: yeah, nice huh? |
| [07:27:00] | defaultro: | i thought it was cool |
| [07:27:00] | defaultro: | yeah |
| [07:27:00] | Tarcastil: | mchou: could you explain the hardware requirements? |
| [07:28:00] | mchou: | Tarcastil: consults jarods guide for mythtv. |
| [07:28:00] | Tarcastil: | this? http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html#ss3.1 |
| [07:28:00] | mchou: | google for it. |
| [07:28:00] | j-rod: | Tarcastil, read that too |
| [07:31:00] | mchou: | j-rod: hey, what (minimal) CPU decodes 1080i w/o skipping fro ya? |
| [07:31:00] | mchou: | for* |
| [07:32:00] | j-rod: | not sure on minimal exactly, but my Athlon XP 1800 couldn't quite cut it, while a 2600 can. |
| [07:32:00] | mchou: | j-rod: what vid card in XP2600+? |
| [07:32:00] | j-rod: | that's with deint filter though |
| [07:32:00] | j-rod: | w/o a deint filter, the 1800 could decode 1080i w/o skipping most of the time |
| [07:32:00] | j-rod: | video card is a GF4MX in both cases |
| [07:33:00] | mchou: | hmm, maybe I need a vid card upgrade :) |
| [07:33:00] | j-rod: | whatcha pushin'? |
| [07:33:00] | mchou: | I have a GF4Ti that doesnt do mpeg decoding apparently. XP2800 |
| [07:34:00] | mchou: | gets skippy on L&O..... |
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| [07:34:00] | j-rod: | There are two pieces of decode assistance a GF4 or later can provide, the Ti cards only do one of the two |
| [07:34:00] | mchou: | j-rod: yeah, that's what I figured. |
| [07:35:00] | j-rod: | enabling opengl vsync helps, if you aren't already |
| [07:35:00] | mchou: | hmm, that's good to know. |
| [07:35:00] | j-rod: | isn't stable for everybody, but I've never had an issue w/it when using it w/an nVidia card |
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| [07:35:00] | j-rod: | (including a 4Ti) |
| [07:35:00] | mchou: | I was hoping not to do a wholesale upgrade to a64....... |
| [07:36:00] | j-rod: | no a64 here except the workstation I'm at |
| [07:36:00] | mchou: | j-rod: hmm?? 4Ti didn't skip for ya? |
| [07:36:00] | j-rod: | nope, but that was in a dual Athlon MP 2000 system |
| [07:36:00] | j-rod: | with opengl vsync enabled |
| [07:36:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [07:37:00] | j-rod: | got replaced by my current a64 3500 |
| [07:37:00] | mchou: | MP 2000 (MHZ) or MP2000+?? |
| [07:37:00] | defaultro: | mchou, remember my setup :) |
| [07:37:00] | j-rod: | 2000+ (1.67GHz procs, iirc) |
| [07:37:00] | mchou: | defaultro: what was your setup again? |
| [07:37:00] | defaultro: | 6600gt, and a64 3000+ |
| [07:38:00] | defaultro: | im very happy with the result |
| [07:38:00] | mchou: | defaultro: that's way too beefy for me right now. :) |
| [07:38:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [07:38:00] | j-rod: | 6600GT, a64 3500+ here, w/2GB of RAM and 3x160GB SATA drives |
| [07:38:00] | defaultro: | how;s the avermedia doing? |
| [07:38:00] | defaultro: | damn, that's a dream machine |
| [07:38:00] | j-rod: | that's my desktop tho :) |
| [07:38:00] | mchou: | defaultro: I havent touched it. |
| [07:38:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [07:38:00] | j-rod: | the dual Athlon MP 2000+ system is now my master backend |
| [07:38:00] | defaultro: | jarod, you do desktop publishing on that box/ |
| [07:38:00] | defaultro: | ? |
| [07:39:00] | j-rod: | cuts commercials out of HDTV wicked-fast. :) |
| [07:39:00] | j-rod: | nope |
| [07:39:00] | defaultro: | k |
| [07:39:00] | mchou: | j-rod: what mobo is that dual? |
| [07:39:00] | j-rod: | a bit of gimp and inkscape from time to time |
| [07:39:00] | defaultro: | really wondered why commercial flagging only worked once |
| [07:39:00] | defaultro: | on my setup |
| [07:39:00] | j-rod: | and umpteen programs open on 4 desktops across dual 19" displays |
| [07:40:00] | j-rod: | mchou, mobo is a Tyan Thunder K7 |
| [07:40:00] | defaultro: | so what is the latest on broadcast flag? |
| [07:40:00] | mchou: | defaultro: there is no latest :) |
| [07:40:00] | defaultro: | i know that they got stopped by court |
| [07:40:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [07:40:00] | j-rod: | yeah, dead, last I heard, but I've been busy... |
| [07:40:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [07:41:00] | mchou: | a more appropriate question to ask is when is cablecard gonna make it to a PC card :) |
| [07:41:00] | defaultro: | prolly, they're working on a new appeal |
| [07:41:00] | defaultro: | yeah, i would want to have that card |
| [07:41:00] | defaultro: | how is it different from QAM capable cards/ |
| [07:41:00] | defaultro: | ? |
| [07:42:00] | mchou: | rumor is that's coming with Longhorn..... |
| [07:42:00] | defaultro: | Microsoft? |
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| [07:42:00] | mchou: | yup. who else? :) |
| [07:42:00] | defaultro: | :( |
| [07:42:00] | mchou: | this whole Cablecard thing is Bullshit. |
| [07:43:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [07:43:00] | mchou: | the cable companies are dragging their feet. They have no interest in making it a success. |
| [07:43:00] | mchou: | there is nothing in it for them, afaik. |
| [07:44:00] | defaultro: | ok |
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| [07:44:00] | Tarcastil: | ooh |
| [07:44:00] | defaultro: | aight guys, it's quarter to 2, i'm so sleepy now |
| [07:44:00] | Tarcastil: | ok, mythtv is like a really powerful tivo |
| [07:44:00] | defaultro: | Have a good night mchou, jarod!!! |
| [07:44:00] | mchou: | later, defaultro |
| [07:44:00] | defaultro: | k |
| [07:45:00] | Tarcastil: | hmm...is there anything that lets you wirelessly transmit from the tv to the card? |
| [07:45:00] | j-rod: | later, defaultro |
| [07:45:00] | mchou: | huh??? |
| [07:45:00] | j-rod: | yeah, ... huh? |
| [07:46:00] | Tarcastil: | you normally connect from the tv to this thing http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/images/hauppauge_wintv_pvr_250.jpg |
| [07:46:00] | Tarcastil: | is there a way to do that wirelessly? |
| [07:46:00] | mchou: | Tarcastil: you can always use an antenna, lol |
| [07:46:00] | j-rod: | uh, no you don't... |
| [07:46:00] | Tarcastil: | lol |
| [07:46:00] | mchou: | that's wireless :) |
| [07:47:00] | j-rod: | you connect your antenna or cable feed to the PVR-250 |
| [07:47:00] | j-rod: | then some device is hooked to the TV to output the playback of the recording onto the TV |
| [07:48:00] | Tarcastil: | right...I'm not thinking technically |
| [07:48:00] | j-rod: | could be the computer that has the 250 in it, could be another computer or hauppauge mvp hooked to the tv, which could be wireless... |
| [07:48:00] | j-rod: | (though only for standard-def TV, and it'd need to be 802.11g) |
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| [09:39:00] | cygdev: | Can someone explain how channels in the xmltv grabbers' output are mapped onto channels in the DB ? |
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| [09:45:00] | BlastM: | in the db, in the channels table, in the xmltvid field |
| [09:46:00] | BlastM: | they'll look something like this: freehd.Sydney.2-HD.d1.com.au |
| [09:47:00] | BlastM: | you can find a list of available channels in ~/.mythtv/foobar.xmltv |
| [09:47:00] | BlastM: | where foobar is the configured video sourve |
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| [09:48:00] | BlastM: | you can change the settings with phpmyadmin or possibly mythweb |
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| [09:51:00] | truls: | Beirdo: i think somethings buggy with the nuvexport wiki (commenting trac issues with email-adresses for reporters) |
| [09:51:00] | truls: | Beirdo: you know who might want a bugreport? |
| [09:56:00] | Spida_: | morning |
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| [09:57:00] | Spida_: | anybody got a clue on where I can find the recent version of the mythtvburn-scripts? |
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| [10:04:00] | cygdev: | I do not have anything like foobar.xmltv in my .mythtv |
| [10:06:00] | cygdev: | should one populate the xmlltvid fields manually ?? |
| [10:06:00] | BlastM: | is there anything with a .xmltvid extension? |
| [10:06:00] | BlastM: | well if it's not working automatically, yes |
| [10:07:00] | BlastM: | but you still need an xmltv config file |
| [10:07:00] | BlastM: | you should have set one up during mythsetup |
| [10:07:00] | BlastM: | otherwise you can create your own |
| [10:08:00] | BlastM: | i'm australian so i run "tv_grab_au --configure" in a console, set it up, then copy the ~/.xmltv/tv_grab_au.conf file to ~/.mythtv/FreeToAir.xmltv (where FreeToAir is my video source) |
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| [14:29:00] | laga: | rjune: any success with the mythtv packages yet? |
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| [14:33:00] | rjune: | laga: had to work |
| [14:33:00] | rjune: | I did get your email though |
| [14:33:00] | rjune: | give a sec |
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| [14:34:00] | laga: | rjune: no stress ;) |
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| [14:34:00] | rjune: | which pkg? |
| [14:35:00] | laga: | mythtv |
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| [14:37:00] | cyberknet: | *yawn* |
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| [14:38:00] | laga: | re-yawn |
| [14:38:00] | cyberknet: | yes. |
| [14:39:00] | cyberknet: | even with a holiday monday I'm still tired on tuesday. |
| [14:39:00] | cyberknet: | Did get a nice drill bit kit for only $40 over the weekend though. |
| [14:39:00] | cyberknet: | that was a nice buy. |
| [14:39:00] | laga: | it took me a second to realize that it's actually tuesday. |
| [14:39:00] | laga: | *sigh* |
| [14:39:00] | rjune: | cyberknet: very cool, carbide tipped? |
| [14:41:00] | cyberknet: | http://203.89.231.185/index.cfm?ppage=product . . . 44253713A487 |
| [14:42:00] | rjune: | wow, they have a URL, those are geek bits |
| [14:43:00] | rjune: | Nice. |
| [14:43:00] | rjune: | you do much steel work? |
| [14:44:00] | cyberknet: | not a whole lot, no. |
| [14:45:00] | cyberknet: | Was a very good price, and couldn't walk past it =) |
| [14:45:00] | rjune: | I used to, back when I worked in a machine shop |
| [14:45:00] | cyberknet: | I have two drills, and had almost no drill bits |
| [14:45:00] | cyberknet: | heh |
| [14:45:00] | cyberknet: | so I thought "hey, its time I got some drill bits" |
| [14:46:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [14:46:00] | cyberknet: | and whammo. there was that set for $40. and it came home with me. |
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| [14:51:00] | cygdev: | any way to make the mouse work better with mythtv ? it works with some mythtv windows, but not all |
| [14:52:00] | cygdev: | also, the cursor is not really visible |
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| [14:54:00] | rjune: | cygdev: Uhm, myth was designed for use w/out a mouse |
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| [15:35:00] | rjune: | GeckoFiend: you're in Cincinatti and have dialup? |
| [15:36:00] | herbalchild: | LOL |
| [15:36:00] | GeckoFiend: | rjune nope but I do have dialup |
| [15:37:00] | herbalchild: | that must suck |
| [15:37:00] | herbalchild: | :( |
| [15:40:00] | rjune: | GeckoFiend: were you the one telling me that lost was a fabulous show? |
| [15:45:00] | cyberknet: | man is it hot in my office :| |
| [15:46:00] | rjune: | cyberknet: get your secretary out from under your desk |
| [15:46:00] | herbalchild: | LOL |
| [15:46:00] | herbalchild: | guys look what i jus ordered http://www.gopostal.com/store/postal2stp_Linux.php |
| [15:46:00] | ** herbalchild waits in anticipation ** | |
| [15:46:00] | laga: | herbalchild: woah |
| [15:46:00] | laga: | this game rocks. violent as hell, though. |
| [15:46:00] | herbalchild: | yup |
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| [15:47:00] | herbalchild: | and they have linux version, not a linux installer in the pc disc...but an actual packaged linux version |
| [15:47:00] | laga: | $20. wonder if they ship to europe...anyways, this ain't the right place to talk about this. keep the channel clean, dude :) |
| [15:47:00] | herbalchild: | laga, i belive tuxgames has it and is in europe |
| [15:47:00] | cyberknet: | rjune: nah, it's the A/C. not sure why it is so hot today. |
| [15:48:00] | laga: | herbalchild: great, thanks. |
| [15:48:00] | cyberknet: | what the heck is that logo? |
| [15:48:00] | cyberknet: | a potato? |
| [15:48:00] | herbalchild: | i wish i was in the UK, so much great linux stuff there, linux stores and all |
| [15:48:00] | herbalchild: | nothing like that here |
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| [15:49:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [15:50:00] | herbalchild: | lol, jus for linux magazines i gottas go to a select bookstore and pay like $15 cuz theyre all imported fro UK |
| [15:50:00] | rjune: | herbalchild: linuxformat? |
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| [15:51:00] | herbalchild: | linux user and developer, i get a few..they have like 4 or 5 at the store i go to...they come with distro's but $15 is still alot for a magazine |
| [15:52:00] | laga: | linuxuser is made by linux new media, right? |
| [15:53:00] | rjune: | herbalchild: yeah , linux format is about 15, but a great mag |
| [15:53:00] | herbalchild: | laga, doesent say which media company there owned by on it |
| [15:54:00] | laga: | ok, just wondering |
| [15:54:00] | herbalchild: | the whole thing is UK based though, i wish there was more stuff in the US |
| [15:54:00] | laga: | they had an article about mythtv a few months ago, right? |
| [15:54:00] | herbalchild: | last month, im holding the issue in my hands right now |
| [15:54:00] | herbalchild: | with the mythtv article |
| [15:55:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [15:55:00] | laga: | funny |
| [15:55:00] | cyberknet: | meh. I used to read computer magazines to keep up with the latest technology. Now that we have news sites online for that I have no need for computer magazines at all. |
| [15:55:00] | laga: | cyberknet: nice. do you have a internet terminal in your bath room? |
| [15:55:00] | herbalchild: | laga, hahaha exactly |
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| [15:56:00] | laga: | herbalchild: this month's issue of the german linuxuser also has an article about mythtv. nice too see that it's covered by the media |
| [15:57:00] | herbalchild: | yea the article in this one is really good, it praises mythtv bigtime... |
| [15:57:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [15:57:00] | laga: | this one is only three pages long |
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| [15:57:00] | laga: | but enough to praise mythtv a little bit |
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| [15:59:00] | herbalchild: | i still gotta buy a tuner....at least im upgrading my boxes to the 6200's today |
| [15:59:00] | herbalchild: | then it should be easier |
| [16:00:00] | cyberknet: | hopefully not the 6200 TC |
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| [16:00:00] | herbalchild: | tc? theyre motorola boxes |
| [16:01:00] | sunilonln: | hi, i'm getting a bunch of "i2c_adapter i2c-1: I2C level transfers not supported" in dmesg |
| [16:01:00] | sunilonln: | any idea where they're coming from? |
| [16:01:00] | rjune: | myth haave a radio option? |
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| [16:04:00] | herbalchild: | what would be the easiest possible setup? |
| [16:04:00] | laga: | rjune: google for mythfm |
| [16:05:00] | herbalchild: | whats the point of radio if its tv anyway? lol |
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| [16:07:00] | rjune: | herbalchild: well, I wanna put a frontend in every room of my house |
| [16:07:00] | herbalchild: | ah |
| [16:08:00] | laga: | i dunno if mythfm supported distributed frontends |
| [16:09:00] | laga: | supports* |
| [16:12:00] | epoch: | does mythfm support the fm tuner in the pvr350? |
| [16:13:00] | cyberknet: | gaaaah |
| [16:13:00] | cyberknet: | So you order digital cable and ask for a box with firewire and they say "Yes, we can get you that" then they drop off a piece of crap without it. |
| [16:14:00] | cyberknet: | then you call and say "what gives?" |
| [16:14:00] | rjune: | and they say? |
| [16:14:00] | cyberknet: | and they say "Oh, bring it in to us and we'll get you one." |
| [16:14:00] | cyberknet: | waste another hour of my time. |
| [16:14:00] | rjune: | so then you say, blow me |
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| [16:15:00] | cyberknet: | tried to, at any rate. "Well, can't you bring it to *me*? You're supposed to get this right the FIRST TIME!" |
| [16:15:00] | herbalchild: | cyberknet, theyre gonna give me the 6200's i gotta go pick them up so i know ill get what i want, they will charge me to send em to me :P |
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| [16:15:00] | cyberknet: | herbalchild: Yeah, I'm gonna see about the 6200 as well. |
| [16:15:00] | cyberknet: | I'm pretty sure that is what Cox in tulsa uses. But it's an HD receiver, and they normally charge extra for it. |
| [16:16:00] | cyberknet: | Gotta make sure they aren't gonna charge me any extra for it. |
| [16:16:00] | herbalchild: | yea the ones imma get are HD and DVR |
| [16:16:00] | herbalchild: | they charge $3 a month for the DVR so im not too worried |
| [16:16:00] | cyberknet: | "tsk tsk. The FCC says you can't charge me more for a firewire port. It's not my fault the only box you have with firewire is HD." |
| [16:16:00] | cyberknet: | the 6200 is a DVR? |
| [16:16:00] | herbalchild: | yea DVR and HD |
| [16:16:00] | cyberknet: | bugger. |
| [16:17:00] | cyberknet: | I didn't see anything about that on the stats sheet |
| [16:17:00] | herbalchild: | hmmm it better be...imma be mad if they give me one with dvr and hd but no firewire |
| [16:18:00] | cyberknet: | I thought the 6200 was no dvr or hd, but did have firewire |
| [16:18:00] | cyberknet: | http://broadband.motorola.com/consumers/produ . . . /DCT6200.pdf |
| [16:18:00] | herbalchild: | maybe the person i talked to on the phone lied |
| [16:18:00] | herbalchild: | lol |
| [16:19:00] | cyberknet: | maybe |
| [16:19:00] | D-side: | whats the current state of mythtv+firewire? |
| [16:20:00] | D-side: | last I heard, it worked fine with "free" content, like basic cable channels, but not at all with what my digital cable features offer |
| [16:20:00] | herbalchild: | im gonna WIG if all the shitty channels work and science channel doesent |
| [16:21:00] | cyberknet: | D-side: My understanding is that it can only record unencrypted content still. |
| [16:21:00] | D-side: | cyberknet: bummer. :/ |
| [16:21:00] | cyberknet: | D-side: I dont know that it will ever be able to record encrypted content... |
| [16:21:00] | D-side: | I don't know the specifics. |
| [16:21:00] | cyberknet: | Nor do I. |
| [16:22:00] | herbalchild: | o...does anyone know about hacking the boxes itself...you know how tv guide provides th listings and puts embedded ads in it...i wanna find a way to kill the ads |
| [16:22:00] | D-side: | doesnt amke a hell of a lot of sense from a procedural standpoinit. |
| [16:22:00] | cyberknet: | I dont have the cable box yet. Hopefully tonight. |
| [16:22:00] | D-side: | if you can output via s-video the encrypted content, why not through fw? |
| [16:22:00] | cyberknet: | herbalchild: no idea. I dont watch tvguide channel anyway. |
| [16:22:00] | D-side: | why bother with the tvguide channel at all, really? |
| [16:22:00] | cyberknet: | D-side: I guess because they dont want a digital out enabled? I dunno. |
| [16:23:00] | herbalchild: | not the cnhannel...the ads are embedded in the guide and all |
| [16:23:00] | cyberknet: | herbalchild: I wouldn't bother with the cable company's tv guide. |
| [16:23:00] | D-side: | use the integrated mythtv guide and you wont have that problem |
| [16:23:00] | herbalchild: | its not run by the cable company, tv guide charges the cable company to provide the listings |
| [16:24:00] | D-side: | cyberknet: do you have any idea what he's talking about? |
| [16:25:00] | cyberknet: | D-side: flibber jabber gobber gooky |
| [16:25:00] | herbalchild: | ill explain |
| [16:26:00] | cyberknet: | sure you will. |
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| [16:26:00] | ** cyberknet kicks into BOFH mode ** | |
| [16:26:00] | herbalchild: | when you pull up the channel listings in the menu, or the bar that shows whats on there are embedded ads, the cable company doesent keep track of the listings, thats outsourced to the tvguide people, they charge the cable company to provide the listing from their databases |
| [16:26:00] | herbalchild: | and hence they put their own ads in it |
| [16:26:00] | D-side: | okay. thats terrific. |
| [16:26:00] | D-side: | no one here uses that. |
| [16:26:00] | mellofone: | anyone have problems updating from .17 to .18.1? The new version seems to ignore my database settings in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [16:26:00] | cyberknet: | herbalchild: very slowly. So. do. not. use. that. tv. guide. |
| [16:27:00] | D-side: | we're perplexed as to why YOU do |
| [16:27:00] | cyberknet: | herbalchild: use. the. guide. in. mythtv. |
| [16:27:00] | cyberknet: | mellofone: no idea, sorry. |
| [16:27:00] | herbalchild: | ok nevermind...lol |
| [16:28:00] | mellofone: | cyberknet: thanks, I also tried .18 and that did the same thing |
| [16:28:00] | D-side: | cyberknet: i say he still doesn't get it, but doesn't want to fight either. |
| [16:28:00] | D-side: | i suggest we call it a draw. :) |
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| [16:28:00] | cyberknet: | D-side: yessir. from his point of view, anyway. |
| [16:28:00] | cyberknet: | D-side: You and I... we know we're winners. |
| [16:29:00] | herbalchild: | XD |
| [16:29:00] | cyberknet: | D-side: If a wookie lives on Endor, you must acquit! |
| [16:30:00] | herbalchild: | not the chewbacca defense!!! |
| [16:30:00] | cyberknet: | It's unstoppable. |
| [16:30:00] | rjune: | mellofone: I went from 0.16 to 0.18.1 |
| [16:31:00] | D-side: | psst: wookies don't live on Endor |
| [16:31:00] | D-side: | i declare a mistrial. |
| [16:31:00] | mellofone: | rjune: since I have mysql on a different box then the backend, I can't start the backend, it gives an error about the upgrade schema |
| [16:32:00] | rjune: | D-side: aha, but ewoks are decended from wookies, thus proving that wookies colonized the planet millions of years ago |
| [16:32:00] | D-side: | rjune: where is your proof? |
| [16:32:00] | rjune: | mellofone: not tried that trick |
| [16:32:00] | D-side: | I've never hehard this! |
| [16:32:00] | D-side: | heard even |
| [16:32:00] | rjune: | D-side: I made it up. duh |
| [16:32:00] | D-side: | mellofone: what, and editing mysql.txt doesnt work? |
| [16:32:00] | ** herbalchild refuses to see episode 3 ** | |
| [16:32:00] | D-side: | rjune: i find you in contempt. |
| [16:33:00] | laga: | herbalchild: in saw it. lots of eye candy. |
| [16:33:00] | D-side: | herbalchild: well then you're an ass :D |
| [16:33:00] | herbalchild: | heh friends on mine are in federal prison because of it |
| [16:33:00] | D-side: | oh, i'm sorry, I'll take that back. |
| [16:33:00] | rjune: | herbalchild: do tell |
| [16:33:00] | D-side: | your friends are asses. :D |
| [16:34:00] | D-side: | cyberknet: start up the BS meter. |
| [16:34:00] | D-side: | this should be a new record. :D |
| [16:34:00] | sunilonln: | what could be the cause of seemingly random crashes of mythbackend? |
| [16:34:00] | cyberknet: | D-side: hah |
| [16:34:00] | herbalchild: | people i knew who ran bt sites....got raided...and criminally charged |
| [16:34:00] | sunilonln: | i'm not seeing anything particularly interesting in the log |
| [16:34:00] | rjune: | herbalchild: they were infringing on copyright? |
| [16:34:00] | mellofone: | D-side: no, it ignores the setting for the hostname of the server and uses the local ip |
| [16:34:00] | herbalchild: | yes |
| [16:35:00] | rjune: | herbalchild: and they got arrested for it? |
| [16:35:00] | D-side: | mellofone: yeesh. i've never seen that before. |
| [16:35:00] | herbalchild: | yes |
| [16:35:00] | cyberknet: | herbalchild: I don't see anything wrong with that. |
| [16:35:00] | mellofone: | it did it with both .18 and .18.1 |
| [16:35:00] | rjune: | and you're pissed at episode 3? |
| [16:35:00] | D-side: | mellofone: but then, I *do* run mysqld on the same box as the backend. |
| [16:35:00] | herbalchild: | maybe sued but criminally charged? |
| [16:35:00] | mellofone: | only during the upgrade of the database though |
| [16:35:00] | rjune: | cyberknet: most of us probably are in violation of copyright in some form or another. |
| [16:35:00] | D-side: | rjune: its going to hurt your head if you continue with this conversation. |
| [16:35:00] | cyberknet: | herbalchild: They were distributing copyrighted material. |
| [16:36:00] | herbalchild: | so is wine and cedega |
| [16:36:00] | herbalchild: | soon enough that will be illegal too |
| [16:36:00] | D-side: | no... |
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| [16:36:00] | cyberknet: | rjune: Yes, and we all deserve to get caught. But most of us are not actively distributing copyrighted material, most of us are only making use of an illegally obtained piece of software if anything at all. |
| [16:36:00] | herbalchild: | yes actually...its just like emulating a console |
| [16:36:00] | D-side: | but then, I really don't have any interest in picking apart that argument. |
| [16:36:00] | mellofone: | D-side: I know, most people do which is why I have gotten nowhere :) |
| [16:36:00] | rjune: | cyberknet: fair enough |
| [16:37:00] | D-side: | herbalchild: thats an absolutely FASCINATING viewpoint. really. |
| [16:37:00] | rjune: | herbalchild: wine != emulating a console |
| [16:37:00] | rjune: | and emulating a console violates the dmca, not copyright |
| [16:37:00] | D-side: | mellofone: so you know what to do then. :) |
| [16:37:00] | cyberknet: | rjune: And you'd be hard up finding software on my computers that is not legally obtained. =) |
| [16:37:00] | rjune: | cyberknet: and media? |
| [16:37:00] | cyberknet: | rjune: heh |
| [16:37:00] | mellofone: | D-side: well that was a last resort since I already have mysql on another box, but so be it I guess :) |
| [16:38:00] | D-side: | mellofone: ugh. i entirely agree its a crap solution. |
| [16:38:00] | herbalchild: | you see my point though im sure, MS wants to make using wine or that type of software illegal unless you own a copy of windows |
| [16:38:00] | D-side: | but hey, if it works... |
| [16:38:00] | mellofone: | yeah |
| [16:38:00] | cyberknet: | rjune: I do not advocate violating copyright =) |
| [16:38:00] | rjune: | herbalchild: don't get me wrong, distributing stuff that's about impossible to get legitimately I got no problems with. but distributing stuff that's readily available? that's silly |
| [16:38:00] | rjune: | herbalchild: ok, but wine is a re-implemenation o fwindows, it doesn't violate copyright |
| [16:38:00] | cyberknet: | that's right. Wine is not an emulator. |
| [16:39:00] | cyberknet: | wine is merely a translator. |
| [16:39:00] | rjune: | cyberknet: I advocate violating the people that came up with the current implemenation of copyright |
| [16:39:00] | herbalchild: | cyberknet, nor do i, i jus think that criminal charges is a bit overboard...especially the way the did it, homeland security got them...like theyre terrorists |
| [16:39:00] | rjune: | or simulator |
| [16:39:00] | cyberknet: | rjune: I dunno. |
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| [16:39:00] | herbalchild: | rjune, it will be against the law....ms is already fighting for it |
| [16:39:00] | rjune: | herbalchild: homeland security is overboard. but copyright has been deemed a criminal charge, you don't like it, vote the bums out of office and make sure other people do to |
| [16:40:00] | herbalchild: | well hopefull those people were jus to be made an exaple out of |
| [16:41:00] | D-side: | cyberknet: damnit. now i want to try a firewire enabled cable box. |
| [16:41:00] | cyberknet: | "Let's make an example out of a major illegal distributer of copyrighted material by sending him to jail." ... No. I think they should send them all to jail. |
| [16:41:00] | cyberknet: | D-side: aaah, that's too bad friend. |
| [16:41:00] | cyberknet: | :| |
| [16:41:00] | D-side: | it would indeed be nice to grab content in pure digital form. |
| [16:41:00] | laga: | man dvb |
| [16:41:00] | laga: | :> |
| [16:42:00] | herbalchild: | cyberknet, yea thats an awesome idea lets waste millions of tax dollars putting hundreds of thousands of people in jail |
| [16:42:00] | ** laga pats his ethernet enabled cable box ** | |
| [16:42:00] | D-side: | laga: wow. |
| [16:42:00] | cyberknet: | herbalchild: I am here to tell you right now that if someone started putting links to illegal torrents on my website I would be taking them down as fast as I could. And I dont even run a torrent search engine. |
| [16:42:00] | laga: | D-side: yeah. tuxbox.org |
| [16:42:00] | rjune: | D-side: Uhm, but that would most likely violate copyright. |
| [16:42:00] | rjune: | heheh |
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| [16:42:00] | D-side: | laga: oh? going. europe only? |
| [16:42:00] | cyberknet: | herbalchild: there are not hundreds of thousands of torrent sites out there that specialize in illegal trading of copyrighted material. |
| [16:42:00] | laga: | D-side: i think so. can you receive dvb-s or dvb-c? |
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| [16:43:00] | herbalchild: | there are that many users though, you said all copywright infringers not distributors |
| [16:43:00] | D-side: | not that i'm aware of. ofw for me. |
| [16:43:00] | laga: | D-side: :/ |
| [16:43:00] | cyberknet: | "Let's make an example out of a major illegal distributer of copyrighted material by sending him to jail." ... No. I think they should send them all to jail. |
| [16:43:00] | D-side: | laga: s'okay, i dont watch THAT much tv as it is. :0 |
| [16:43:00] | cyberknet: | there is the word "distributer" in tehre. |
| [16:43:00] | laga: | D-side: hehe |
| [16:43:00] | herbalchild: | and i agree torrents are a GREAT means of legal distribution, and it gives them a dirty name |
| [16:43:00] | cyberknet: | even if I did mis-spell it. |
| [16:44:00] | D-side: | but i have to say, most shows i watch are on network (read: "likely unencrypted") tv. |
| [16:44:00] | D-side: | maybe i'll try it anyway. |
| [16:44:00] | cyberknet: | herbalchild: let me say this. If every piece of copyrighted work disappeared from every torrent site and p2p client out there in under an hour, I would not be unhappy. I would be overjoyed. |
| [16:44:00] | herbalchild: | i agree |
| [16:44:00] | cyberknet: | where by "copyrighted work" I mean "copyrighted work that is not authorized for distribution in that manner" |
| [16:45:00] | sunilonln: | cyberknet: if that happened, the interenet would suddenly feel so much faster |
| [16:45:00] | sunilonln: | it would be amazing |
| [16:45:00] | cyberknet: | sunilonln: indeed. |
| [16:45:00] | herbalchild: | yea |
| [16:45:00] | herbalchild: | lol |
| [16:45:00] | rjune: | heh. |
| [16:45:00] | cyberknet: | I want torrent for linux isos... and that's about it. |
| [16:45:00] | rjune: | but then I would havea hard time with avatar |
| [16:45:00] | herbalchild: | yup |
| [16:45:00] | ** laga wants open source pron ** | |
| [16:45:00] | cyberknet: | and video files. |
| [16:45:00] | rjune: | laga: gnaughty |
| [16:45:00] | cyberknet: | but not illegal video files =) |
| [16:46:00] | herbalchild: | its awesome for linux iso's especially when the ftp's are jammed up |
| [16:46:00] | rjune: | laga: and lesbian linux |
| [16:46:00] | cyberknet: | laga: You want RMS pr0n. that's sick. |
| [16:46:00] | D-side: | cyberknet: please stop typing. |
| [16:46:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [16:46:00] | cyberknet: | D-side: tubgirl =) |
| [16:46:00] | D-side: | cyberknet: "hot ESR on RMS action!" |
| [16:46:00] | cyberknet: | because you know you were thinking it. |
| [16:46:00] | rjune: | goatse |
| [16:46:00] | cyberknet: | D-side: that was uncalled for! |
| [16:46:00] | laga: | D-side: ack |
| [16:46:00] | cyberknet: | *shudder* |
| [16:46:00] | laga: | D-side: you, stop typing, too! |
| [16:47:00] | laga: | *shiver* |
| [16:47:00] | laga: | ESR wrote an tutorial. something like 'the geek guide to sex' |
| [16:47:00] | cyberknet: | And Carly Fiorina in the middle. |
| [16:47:00] | rjune: | cyberknet: that's just wrong |
| [16:47:00] | D-side: | OKAY |
| [16:47:00] | D-side: | i'm sorry. enough of this! |
| [16:47:00] | cyberknet: | hah |
| [16:48:00] | ** cyberknet waves a white flag ** | |
| [16:48:00] | D-side: | i thought about what i typed and nearly vomited. |
| [16:48:00] | ** laga uses the white flag to clean the vomit off the channel floor ** | |
| [16:48:00] | cyberknet: | D-side: The rest of us did too =) |
| [16:48:00] | laga: | brb, gotta fill my stomach again |
| [16:48:00] | D-side: | so, I win! |
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| [16:50:00] | cyberknet: | D-side: lets call it a tie. |
| [16:50:00] | D-side: | :/ |
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| [16:50:00] | cyberknet: | Or I'll need to break out some Hilary Rosenberg |
| [16:50:00] | cyberknet: | and nobody wants to think about that. |
| [16:51:00] | herbalchild: | ill break out some B.Aurthor |
| [16:51:00] | herbalchild: | :P |
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| [16:51:00] | D-side: | better break out the spellcheck first. :D |
| [16:51:00] | cyberknet: | I know. |
| [16:51:00] | cyberknet: | I was just googling for the correct spelling because it looked so attrocious =) |
| [16:52:00] | herbalchild: | i was too lazy to google it |
| [16:52:00] | ** laga blames all the herb ** | |
| [16:52:00] | cyberknet: | way too much herb in this channel. |
| [16:52:00] | laga: | *cough* |
| [16:52:00] | ** cyberknet points out to herbalchild that his hair is on fire ** | |
| [16:52:00] | laga: | he probably likes it that way. hehe. :) |
| [16:52:00] | cyberknet: | ahh yes. Hillary Rosen. |
| [16:52:00] | cyberknet: | my bad. |
| [16:53:00] | cyberknet: | http://www.jci.cc/images/33/30/Carly%20Fiorina%206-18-03.jpg |
| [16:53:00] | laga: | amazon rocks. ordered some stuff yesterday at 11pm and it they shipped it today. nice |
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| [16:54:00] | cyberknet: | imagine waking up between those. |
| [16:54:00] | cyberknet: | now that would be fearsome. |
| [16:54:00] | laga: | would probably be normal for some people |
| [16:54:00] | laga: | "hi darling" |
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| [16:55:00] | D-side: | guess who's not going to those urls? |
| [16:55:00] | D-side: | ME. |
| [16:55:00] | laga: | i did it. |
| [16:55:00] | cyberknet: | D-side: they're safe for work. |
| [16:56:00] | cyberknet: | it's just Carly and Hillary's faces. |
| [16:56:00] | laga: | cyberknet: but not for your mind. |
| [16:56:00] | cyberknet: | although Hillary looks like she's mid-orgasm listening to some music player. |
| [16:56:00] | cyberknet: | laga: very not for your mind. |
| [16:56:00] | laga: | it's the vibepod probably |
| [16:57:00] | cyberknet: | I hear they're coming out with an accessory for that... iTrippin |
| [17:00:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [17:01:00] | rjune: | cyberknet: the iVibe? |
| [17:01:00] | cyberknet: | as well as a new dedicated Pause button in the accompanying software labelled iCommin' |
| [17:02:00] | laga: | rotfl |
| [17:02:00] | cyberknet: | and now iSearchin for another joke |
| [17:05:00] | laga: | yay, 22 postings left till the magical 500 on mythtvtalk.com for me. |
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| [17:07:00] | sphing: | i'm having some sound issues with alsa |
| [17:08:00] | sphing: | can anyone help me out... its not giving any output |
| [17:10:00] | cyberknet: | xris and kormoc car pool, or just get to work at the same time? |
| [17:10:00] | cyberknet: | sphing: no idea, sorry. |
| [17:11:00] | kormoc: | just get to work around the same timeish |
| [17:12:00] | cyberknet: | and then onto irc at the same timeish |
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| [17:39:00] | cyberknet: | wow. I'd like to hear Beirdo's take on the ATi Crossfire and his gputrans project. |
| [17:40:00] | cyberknet: | couple of cards with 512mb memory linked up via that DVI cable. (or one with 512 and the other with nada)... that would be nice. |
| [17:40:00] | Beirdo: | cyberknet: y'all suck :) |
| [17:41:00] | cyberknet: | you were a long way from me, friend =) |
| [17:41:00] | Beirdo: | hmm? |
| [17:41:00] | Beirdo: | I'm not all that far from ya |
| [17:41:00] | cyberknet: | a good days drive at least. |
| [17:42:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:42:00] | Beirdo: | but more than a day's drive closer |
| [17:42:00] | cyberknet: | true that. |
| [17:43:00] | cyberknet: | that crossfire stuff looks very interesting only because so many of the inter-card calls happen over a dvi cable instead of the pci-express bus |
| [17:43:00] | Beirdo: | in Milan, TN right now |
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| [17:43:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, I'll have to look at such stuff later |
| [17:43:00] | cyberknet: | get a monsted card with 512mb memory on it and you could process 15 minutes worth of video without ever having to hit main memory |
| [17:44:00] | Beirdo: | but gputrans will likely be primarily PCI-bandwidth outta necessity |
| [17:44:00] | Beirdo: | you need to load in frame by frame into the texture maps |
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| [17:44:00] | cyberknet: | couldn't load the raw video data into the video card and pull frame by frame? |
| [17:44:00] | Beirdo: | not necessarily |
| [17:44:00] | cyberknet: | s/card/card memory/ |
| [17:44:00] | cyberknet: | aah |
| [17:44:00] | cyberknet: | well that bites. |
| [17:45:00] | cyberknet: | would be nice to be able to use some kind of innate mpeg decoding to pull the frames =) |
| [17:45:00] | Beirdo: | I'd have to investigate, but everything will be using OpenGL calls to drive it (is the current plan) |
| [17:45:00] | cyberknet: | yeah, I figured. |
| [17:45:00] | Beirdo: | BTW, Lynchburg, TN is worth a visit |
| [17:45:00] | cyberknet: | really? I never would have known. |
| [17:46:00] | cyberknet: | did you hit Memphis yet? |
| [17:46:00] | Beirdo: | we did one night there, we'll go back |
| [17:47:00] | xris: | Beirdo: you back? |
| [17:47:00] | Beirdo: | xris: no :) |
| [17:47:00] | cyberknet: | niiiiiiiice: http://www.mirrordot.org/stories/80e1adc0b3f8 . . . 6/index.html |
| [17:48:00] | Beirdo: | I'm in Milan, TN right now at the hotel |
| [17:48:00] | cyberknet: | now *there* is a HSF. |
| [17:48:00] | cyberknet: | what a monster. |
| [17:49:00] | cyberknet: | requires 1400 Watts of power. |
| [17:50:00] | xris: | Beirdo: having a good trip so far? |
| [17:54:00] | Beirdo: | so far :) |
| [17:57:00] | Beirdo: | went to Nashville, avoided country music crap |
| [17:57:00] | Beirdo: | went to Lynchburg... Jack Daniels Distillery rules |
| [17:58:00] | Beirdo: | Went to Memphis for one night, was on Beale St, great stuff |
| [17:58:00] | Beirdo: | will go back |
| [17:58:00] | Beirdo: | right now, my friend needs to work for a couple days (trucking), and I'm riding along :) |
| [17:59:00] | Beirdo: | we went up nearly to Bowling Green today |
| [17:59:00] | cyberknet: | free samples at the distillery? |
| [17:59:00] | Beirdo: | (KY) |
| [17:59:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [17:59:00] | cyberknet: | :| |
| [17:59:00] | Beirdo: | dry county |
| [17:59:00] | cyberknet: | hah |
| [17:59:00] | cyberknet: | a dry county distilling JD? |
| [17:59:00] | Beirdo: | how's that for odd |
| [17:59:00] | cyberknet: | that's irony for you. |
| [17:59:00] | Beirdo: | yep |
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| [18:00:00] | Beirdo: | they can sell in the store (by special dispensation), but there's no selling liquor in TN on Sunday. |
| [18:00:00] | Beirdo: | Except on Beale St. |
| [18:01:00] | Beirdo: | so we were at both in one day |
| [18:01:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
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| [18:08:00] | rjune: | cyberknet: yeah, you didn't know that? |
| [18:08:00] | cyberknet: | no selling liquor on Sunday on Oklahoma either. |
| [18:09:00] | rjune: | or Indiana |
| [18:09:00] | rjune: | unless it's a restaurant or something goofy |
| [18:11:00] | GeckoFiend: | or Ohio |
| [18:11:00] | GeckoFiend: | wine is ok though |
| [18:12:00] | Beirdo: | Beale St in Memphis is an exception to the rules :) |
| [18:12:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [18:12:00] | GeckoFiend: | blood of christ and all |
| [18:14:00] | rjune: | heh, |
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| [18:25:00] | Beirdo: | damn is this screen hard to read :) |
| [18:25:00] | ** Beirdo is out by the pool, full sunlight, wearing sunglasses ** | |
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| [18:38:00] | AggiEmpeg: | so can anyone answer my question? |
| [18:38:00] | AggiEmpeg: | I'm new to MythTV, read all online docs, and half the list archives... no answers yet |
| [18:38:00] | AggiEmpeg: | if a backend has two tuners, and three frontends try to watch LiveTV, what happens? |
| [18:38:00] | Cardoe: | AggiEmpeg: considering I didn't see a question. I can't answer it |
| [18:39:00] | Cardoe: | AggiEmpeg: and being snotty doesn't help with getting people to help |
| [18:39:00] | rjune: | AggiEmpeg: two get to watch |
| [18:39:00] | rjune: | AggiEmpeg: or one can do picture in picture |
| [18:39:00] | Cardoe: | or 2 can watch |
| [18:39:00] | Cardoe: | and 1 can watch a recording |
| [18:39:00] | AggiEmpeg: | does the third just get a Fuck-off error message? |
| [18:40:00] | Cardoe: | If it tries to watch Live TV it's told that currently all tuners are in use. |
| [18:40:00] | Cardoe: | similar to TiVo and a cable company's PVR |
| [18:40:00] | Cardoe: | when it's recording a show |
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| [18:40:00] | AggiEmpeg: | ahh. nice. |
| [18:40:00] | Cardoe: | and you want to watch something else. |
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| [18:41:00] | AggiEmpeg: | Tivo is my basis for comparison... that's pretty cool. This whole frontend/backend concept creates so many possibilities |
| [18:43:00] | AggiEmpeg: | thanks Cardoe and rjune for the answers |
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| [19:02:00] | sphing: | can anyone help with an alsa problem on a via board |
| [19:03:00] | AggiEmpeg: | uh, maybe |
| [19:03:00] | AggiEmpeg: | what seems to be the problem? |
| [19:03:00] | sphing: | well basically |
| [19:03:00] | sphing: | i have no sound |
| [19:03:00] | AggiEmpeg: | have you tried the usual stuff... loading modules, etc |
| [19:04:00] | sphing: | yes the modules are loaded |
| [19:04:00] | sphing: | its the right sound card |
| [19:04:00] | sphing: | i've looked up the problem, i've changed the card options... nothing |
| [19:04:00] | AggiEmpeg: | did you remember to unmute the alsa micer? |
| [19:04:00] | AggiEmpeg: | mixer |
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| [19:04:00] | AggiEmpeg: | by default I think Alsa mutes the sound channels |
| [19:05:00] | sphing: | sorry.. yes I did |
| [19:05:00] | sphing: | everything is 100% |
| [19:05:00] | sphing: | xine doesnt give audio nor does cat'ing a wav file |
| [19:06:00] | AggiEmpeg: | are you getting any sound at all? |
| [19:06:00] | AggiEmpeg: | or just nothing from your TV card? |
| [19:06:00] | sphing: | nothing |
| [19:06:00] | sphing: | at all |
| [19:07:00] | AggiEmpeg: | what snd_ modules show up when you lsmod? |
| [19:10:00] | sphing: | http://pastebin.com/292786\ |
| [19:11:00] | AggiEmpeg: | none of your snd_mods are in use... that is weird |
| [19:11:00] | AggiEmpeg: | is your alsasound service? |
| [19:11:00] | AggiEmpeg: | running? |
| [19:12:00] | sphing: | yes |
| [19:12:00] | sphing: | i'll double check |
| [19:12:00] | AggiEmpeg: | what distro are you running btw |
| [19:12:00] | sphing: | gentoo |
| [19:12:00] | AggiEmpeg: | nice |
| [19:12:00] | AggiEmpeg: | ok, that'll make it easier for me to help |
| [19:12:00] | sphing: | goodly |
| [19:12:00] | sphing: | btw i'm new to gentoo.. i'm a debian guy normally.. so it could be something very dumb |
| [19:13:00] | cygdev: | do you have sound in mythtv ? |
| [19:13:00] | AggiEmpeg: | understood |
| [19:13:00] | sphing: | i have no sound anywhere |
| [19:13:00] | sphing: | i haven't touch myth yet.. i'm going step by step |
| [19:13:00] | AggiEmpeg: | so does a '/etc/init.d/alsasound status' show started? |
| [19:14:00] | sphing: | started |
| [19:14:00] | sphing: | i have to recompile my kernel cause i just realized that i can't unload modules |
| [19:15:00] | riksta: | sphing: you must unmute the mixer |
| [19:15:00] | sphing: | did that |
| [19:15:00] | AggiEmpeg: | ok, so I gotta ask, speakers all plugged in and turned on? |
| [19:16:00] | sphing: | everything is 100% and unmuted |
| [19:16:00] | sphing: | AggiEmpeg: normal question.. yes verified with another machine |
| [19:17:00] | riksta: | sphing: use alsaplayer to confirm things are working |
| [19:18:00] | sphing: | aplay gives: Playing WAVE '/home/sphing/R.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo |
| [19:21:00] | AggiEmpeg: | try stopping and starting alsasound |
| [19:21:00] | sunilonln: | i'm getting a bunch of "i2c_adapter i2c-1: I2C level transfers not supported" in dmesg |
| [19:21:00] | sunilonln: | any idea where they're coming from? |
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| [19:23:00] | sphing: | ok |
| [19:23:00] | sphing: | so get ready to laugh |
| [19:23:00] | AggiEmpeg: | ? |
| [19:23:00] | sphing: | it was plugged in the wrong jack |
| [19:23:00] | AggiEmpeg: | oh man |
| [19:23:00] | sphing: | hahahaha |
| [19:23:00] | AggiEmpeg: | done that a few times myself |
| [19:23:00] | sphing: | this sounds dumb... but windows uses the other jack |
| [19:23:00] | AggiEmpeg: | even after they started color coding the damn plugs |
| [19:23:00] | sphing: | so i assumed so did alsa |
| [19:23:00] | sphing: | no.... the color codes don't match |
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| [19:25:00] | AggiEmpeg: | sunilonln: you remember to compile in or modularize support for i2c? |
| [19:25:00] | sunilonln: | probably not |
| [19:25:00] | AggiEmpeg: | I'm not sure about ivtv drivers but bttv support requires i2c support |
| [19:26:00] | sphing: | AggiEmpeg: simple questoin: how do i get a module to auto-load |
| [19:26:00] | sunilonln: | AggiEmpeg: how exactly would i do that? i've been using apt for everything |
| [19:27:00] | AggiEmpeg: | in Gentoo there's a /etc/modules.autoload.d/ dir |
| [19:27:00] | sphing: | ahh |
| [19:27:00] | AggiEmpeg: | inside there you would add a line in the appropriate kernel filename |
| [19:28:00] | sphing: | yea i got it.. not the same place as debian.. |
| [19:28:00] | AggiEmpeg: | cool |
| [19:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | too many distros, too many ways of doingthings :) |
| [19:29:00] | sphing: | ...exactly... |
| [19:29:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: I need to thank yo uagain for the ati_remote.c |
| [19:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | np |
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| [19:29:00] | AggiEmpeg: | sunilonln: you'll have to recompile your kernel cuz I don't think i2c support is added by default |
| [19:30:00] | sphing: | one thing: nothing but the mouse works... is that because i haven't done lirc yet? |
| [19:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | it doesn't use lirc |
| [19:30:00] | sunilonln: | ahh |
| [19:30:00] | sunilonln: | that doesn't sound fun |
| [19:30:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: so the numbers should be working? |
| [19:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's cause you didn't load it right :) you have to pass it "lolatype=1" to tell it's that it's a niveus and not just a lola remote |
| [19:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | modprobe ati_remote lolatype=1 |
| [19:30:00] | AggiEmpeg: | sunilonln: it isn't too bad... becomes second nature after a while |
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| [19:31:00] | sphing: | Grey... you're a hero |
| [19:31:00] | sunilonln: | is there a simple way of doing this? |
| [19:32:00] | sunilonln: | (i'm new at "this linux stuff", if you haven't figured out already) |
| [19:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | the lola a nd the niveus have identical product ids, but use difference key codes and a different data structure when sending the keys, so you just need to tell it to look for the niveus way of doing things |
| [19:32:00] | AggiEmpeg: | sunilonln: hehe... not a problem. You will, unfortunatley, need to roll up your sleeves for this project. |
| [19:33:00] | sunilonln: | that's no problem |
| [19:33:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: so to add custom keymapping i need to edit the .c file? |
| [19:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | you are correct |
| [19:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've been too busy/lazy to add support for an external method |
| [19:33:00] | sphing: | i might look into that... |
| [19:33:00] | sphing: | i'm trying to get my feet wet when it comes to writing drivers |
| [19:33:00] | sunilonln: | i want to become as familiar as possible with linux... just takes time because documentation is usually for very specific conditions |
| [19:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | and it's so rare I change the keys I just recompile it when I do |
| [19:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | but since I give it to others I should make it externally configurable one of these days |
| [19:35:00] | sphing: | i just wish there was a way to capture the keys and have it change depending on which program its on |
| [19:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | You will have to go the lirc route for this |
| [19:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | that |
| [19:35:00] | sphing: | is that what lirc does? |
| [19:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | This emulates a keyboard, nothin more |
| [19:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | lirc is configured on a per application basis |
| [19:36:00] | sphing: | could you use your drive with lirc |
| [19:36:00] | sphing: | *driver |
| [19:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | no |
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| [19:36:00] | zacs: | lirc is awful |
| [19:36:00] | sphing: | no one has maybe a program to catch keystrokes and have it change depending on the program? |
| [19:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | there is a atiusb or some such driver under lirc that I've heard supports these remotes. but I've never looked into it |
| [19:36:00] | AggiEmpeg: | sunilonln: my advice would be to google 'linux kernel compiling' and work through compiling your own kernels... make sure you have a boot disk of some sort because you WILL render your machine unbootable at some point |
| [19:37:00] | sunilonln: | ok |
| [19:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: Nothing that isn't really ugly |
| [19:37:00] | sunilonln: | what do i need to do for i2c support? |
| [19:37:00] | AggiEmpeg: | sunilonln: most important: have fun |
| [19:37:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: can you point me in the right direction? |
| [19:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: What apps are you trying to use it with that require different keys? |
| [19:37:00] | sunilonln: | i'm sure i will |
| [19:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | Can't configure the other apps to use a common set of key strokes? |
| [19:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | For example I configured mplayer to use the same keys as I use in mythtv |
| [19:38:00] | sphing: | is there a .conf file for that you could send me way? |
| [19:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | www.phaze.org/mythtv/input.conf |
| [19:38:00] | sphing: | you're so good to me |
| [19:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | I only bothered with configuring the audio stuff, ffwd , rew, pause etc. I'm sure there are others that could be changed but I don't use them so I didn't care enough to bother |
| [19:40:00] | sphing: | just out of curiousity... this is the remote you use with your myth setup? |
| [19:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [19:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | in my main room |
| [19:41:00] | sphing: | what system? |
| [19:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | huh? what do you mean ? |
| [19:42:00] | sphing: | mini-itx? |
| [19:42:00] | sphing: | or full blown |
| [19:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | on, full |
| [19:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | s/on/sh/ |
| [19:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don/'t use mini-itx at all for anything |
| [19:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | mostly cause I already had these regular atx b oards around |
| [19:43:00] | sphing: | ahh.. they're nice... as front ends |
| [19:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | I already had the gear for my current setup, only thing I didn't have originally was the MediaMVP which is one of the frontends |
| [19:46:00] | GreyFoxx: | Wont be changing any else until my media room is done. even though I don't need to :) |
| [19:47:00] | adante: | anybody using dtv – i'm noticing that the quality of reception i need varies considerably depending on the particular show – is this normal? |
| [19:48:00] | adante: | also, if my reception is bad enough, mythbackend seems to go into a spinlock and eats 100% cpu |
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| [19:53:00] | GeckoFiend: | adante different shows use different bitrates and resolutions in HD land so yeah it makes sense |
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| [19:56:00] | sphing: | hey GreyFoxx you still there? |
| [19:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | just about to leave |
| [19:57:00] | sphing: | alright the left click does'nt work sometime.. |
| [19:57:00] | sphing: | just wanted your input |
| [19:57:00] | sphing: | (no pun intended) |
| [19:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | no idea :) |
| [19:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | I reallly never use the mouse aspect |
| [19:57:00] | sphing: | k |
| [19:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | myth doesn't respond to a mouse so I don't use it :) |
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| [20:05:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: the mediaMVP? |
| [20:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | what about it ? |
| [20:05:00] | rjune: | never heard of it |
| [20:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | google is your friend |
| [20:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | made by the same people that make the pvr250's and such |
| [20:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | small little settop box with ethernet, and onboard mpeg decoder and tvout |
| [20:06:00] | rjune: | cool |
| [20:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | boots of the network and runs a little linux image |
| [20:07:00] | rjune: | it work as a myth frontend? |
| [20:07:00] | rjune: | oh, ala ltsp |
| [20:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use the mvpmc project software to use it with myth |
| [20:07:00] | rjune: | very cool |
| [20:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | rjune: No, but same concept |
| [20:07:00] | rjune: | I hope laga gets that done, that'll be slick |
| [20:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | gets what done ? |
| [20:08:00] | rjune: | myth for ltsp |
| [20:08:00] | rjune: | he's working on a native build |
| [20:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | cool |
| [20:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | Make it easier for people who want netbootable frontends. Though I gotta say setting up diskless stuff is not very difficult |
| [20:08:00] | rjune: | no, but LTSP is known and easy to deal with |
| [20:09:00] | rjune: | having myth as an option on that would be cool |
| [20:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | I love diskless setups. I use it for all my frontends and dev boxes |
| [20:10:00] | rjune: | I love them too |
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| [20:18:00] | cyberknet: | does anyone have a link to the appropriate FCC document that requires firewire enabled digital set top boxes to consumers that request them? |
| [20:18:00] | cyberknet: | cox is giving me grief |
| [20:19:00] | cyberknet: | being real cox about it. |
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| [20:27:00] | jchillerup: | Hey.. If I have a MythTV server, will a 54Mb (6.75MB/sec) Wifi be enough to send live video losslessly? |
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| [20:30:00] | rjune: | should be ok |
| [20:33:00] | laga: | jchillerup: do you actually get 54mbps throughput? |
| [20:33:00] | jchillerup: | I don't think so |
| [20:33:00] | jchillerup: | It's just theoreticalloy |
| [20:33:00] | jchillerup: | -o |
| [20:33:00] | rjune: | laga: never do |
| [20:34:00] | sphing: | how can i have the machine automatically login and start x? |
| [20:34:00] | laga: | jchillerup: that's why im asking. |
| [20:34:00] | laga: | jchillerup: do some benchmarks and compare it with your recordings profiles. |
| [20:34:00] | jchillerup: | sphing, add some su-stuff to one of your init scripts and startx to .initrc |
| [20:34:00] | jchillerup: | laga, I haven't bought any hardware yet. |
| [20:34:00] | opello: | sphing: or you can use gdm and set it up that way |
| [20:34:00] | laga: | sphing: this has been beaten to death on the ML ;) |
| [20:34:00] | jchillerup: | I'm considering it |
| [20:35:00] | laga: | jchillerup: oh, ok. the ML also has a lot of info on this |
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| [20:35:00] | laga: | BTW, i'm not trying to piss people off, i want to help them ;) |
| [20:35:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [20:36:00] | jchillerup: | ;) |
| [20:36:00] | jchillerup: | I'm not pissed off |
| [20:37:00] | jchillerup: | Thank you. |
| [20:37:00] | D-side_: | I do 802.11g at home. |
| [20:37:00] | D-side_: | it works. |
| [20:37:00] | jchillerup: | Cool |
| [20:37:00] | jchillerup: | Thank you |
| [20:37:00] | xris: | jchillerup: it'll work, depending on how big your recorded files aer |
| [20:37:00] | D-side_: | + for me |
| [20:37:00] | jchillerup: | Live TV |
| [20:41:00] | laga: | *sigh* |
| [20:42:00] | D-side_: | laga: wha? |
| [20:42:00] | laga: | ok. how can i install mythtv to a different dir after i've compiled it? 'INSTALL_DIR=/foo make install' doesn't work :/ |
| [20:42:00] | D-side_: | GreyFoxx: howdy. long time. :) |
| [20:44:00] | D-side_: | laga: ./configure? |
| [20:44:00] | laga: | umm. |
| [20:44:00] | laga: | nope, sorry – i'm trying to build some packages for a distro. |
| [20:44:00] | laga: | sweet. |
| [20:44:00] | laga: | INSTALL_ROOT=something works. |
| [20:44:00] | laga: | i wonder if this is going to work. |
| [20:46:00] | D-side_: | oh, wow. |
| [20:46:00] | D-side_: | didnt know PVR-150/500 support was backported to 0.2.0 |
| [20:46:00] | opello: | really? |
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| [20:48:00] | D-side_: | opello: yeah. http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-index.php?page=DownloadIvyTv |
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| [20:48:00] | D-side_: | 4/24/05 |
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| [20:49:00] | ** laga *thinks* that he's going insane. ** | |
| [20:49:00] | laga: | computers hate me |
| [20:50:00] | D-side_: | could be. |
| [20:50:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [20:50:00] | opello: | you can't just ./configre --prefix=/other/dir ? |
| [20:50:00] | D-side_: | i'd say "send me your pundit" but after you hacked it up, no thanks. :D |
| [20:50:00] | laga: | D-side_: i didn't hack it. it was the ebay guy. ;) |
| [20:50:00] | D-side_: | opello: apparently not with his packaging system. |
| [20:50:00] | opello: | ohh |
| [20:50:00] | D-side_: | laga: oh, right i remember. my apologies. :) |
| [20:50:00] | laga: | D-side_: hehe. |
| [20:50:00] | D-side_: | opello: OUR packaging system though... :D |
| [20:51:00] | opello: | D-side_: we don't need to bother :) |
| [20:51:00] | D-side_: | opello: i'm about to break everything in sight by trying this new ivtv version |
| [20:51:00] | opello: | lol |
| [20:51:00] | D-side_: | i dont know why i'm fixing something thats not broken. |
| [20:51:00] | opello: | just remember, it's trivial to roll it back |
| [20:51:00] | laga: | it's the same sad old story every time. |
| [20:51:00] | D-side_: | opello: remember our conversation yesterday? apparently i'm too stupid to listen to my own advice. :) |
| [20:51:00] | laga: | 'it's shiny, i want it!' |
| [20:51:00] | opello: | heh :) |
| [20:51:00] | opello: | exactly! :) |
| [20:52:00] | D-side_: | boy did you just hit the nail on the head |
| [20:52:00] | opello: | what's that hacking of pundit? |
| [20:52:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx: you there? |
| [20:52:00] | laga: | opello: added holes for 'better' airflow. |
| [20:52:00] | opello: | ...yuck |
| [20:52:00] | laga: | opello: nothing serious. |
| [20:52:00] | opello: | my dremel met the pundit, but only because the pvr-500 was too tall |
| [20:53:00] | laga: | opello: it's under my TV set anyways. i'm afraid it'll melt there, though |
| [20:53:00] | laga: | opello: don't worry, it's the same for the pvr 250 :) |
| [20:53:00] | opello: | heh |
| [20:53:00] | laga: | ARGH |
| [20:54:00] | D-side_: | soon i want to further break crap by trying out a firewire tuner. |
| [20:54:00] | laga: | make -n install...and i wonder why it isn't where it's supposed to be, |
| [20:55:00] | sphing: | anyone using greyfoxx's ati driver |
| [20:56:00] | opello: | D-side_: sounds fun |
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| [21:01:00] | D-side_: | opello: hm. i've come to a conclusion. |
| [21:02:00] | opello: | oh? |
| [21:02:00] | D-side_: | all the shows i MUST record have aired their season finales. |
| [21:02:00] | opello: | lol |
| [21:02:00] | D-side_: | what the hell do i care? time to break everything. |
| [21:02:00] | opello: | that means it's ok to break things |
| [21:02:00] | opello: | heh |
| [21:02:00] | D-side_: | that includes moving to 0.18.1 |
| [21:02:00] | GreyFoxx: | D-side_: hehe me too. nothing new til July :) |
| [21:03:00] | D-side_: | GreyFoxx: and i know EXACTLY what you're referring to. :) |
| [21:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [21:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | July 15th, & 16th a couple of my favourite shows start. Can't wait |
| [21:03:00] | D-side_: | too bad i'm not going to get it in HD though. |
| [21:03:00] | D-side_: | like last time... |
| [21:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've been watching the old '78 series |
| [21:04:00] | D-side_: | yeah? |
| [21:04:00] | D-side_: | i cant. i tried. |
| [21:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah, up to episode 10 |
| [21:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | It is painful heh |
| [21:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | But I have little else around until July :) |
| [21:04:00] | D-side_: | oh wow. while this is installing all its updates, i see cdrtools. "oh yeah! I do have a cdrw in there!" |
| [21:06:00] | ** laga drools ** | |
| [21:06:00] | laga: | suddenly, mythvideo stopped working. i can't watch any videos now. |
| [21:06:00] | laga: | it worked fine 15 minutes ago. |
| [21:06:00] | rjune: | yuck |
| [21:06:00] | D-side_: | GreyFoxx: i've decided i will own the dvd sets. |
| [21:07:00] | D-side_: | laga: dont feel bad. by the time i'm done fixing the non-broken box here, I'll have NOTHING working. |
| [21:07:00] | cortezdapimp: | what happens in july? battlestar? |
| [21:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | cortezdapimp: yup |
| [21:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | and the Stargates kick up again |
| [21:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | D-side_: me too |
| [21:08:00] | cortezdapimp: | wred |
| [21:08:00] | laga: | D-side_: grmpf |
| [21:08:00] | cortezdapimp: | i don t watch either of those shows. battlestar is cool? |
| [21:08:00] | rjune: | gotta love da stargate |
| [21:08:00] | laga: | rjune: joy. |
| [21:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's great imho |
| [21:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | good stories, good effects but not overdone, and the way they shoot it is really cool |
| [21:08:00] | laga: | rjune: mythtv now shows up in my ltsp file system. but there is no mythfrontend. |
| [21:08:00] | laga: | this is impossible. |
| [21:08:00] | cortezdapimp: | i'm watching samurai champloo, buffy, and tahts about it |
| [21:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | especially during space flight/battles |
| [21:09:00] | laga: | ok, mythvideo is working again. yay. |
| [21:09:00] | rjune: | laga: no just very hard |
| [21:09:00] | laga: | rjune: that has never happened to me before. |
| [21:09:00] | laga: | rjune: mythfrontend is supposed to be installed. |
| [21:09:00] | laga: | period. |
| [21:11:00] | laga: | this is ridicolous. |
| [21:11:00] | laga: | so is my spelling. |
| [21:11:00] | cortezdapimp: | is it recockulous? |
| [21:11:00] | laga: | ridiculous* |
| [21:11:00] | opello: | D-side_: what's on in july? 4400 on jun.5 :) |
| [21:11:00] | laga: | shit, libmyth is also missing. |
| [21:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | opello: There is gonna be a 4400 series ? |
| [21:12:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: already is |
| [21:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | cool, didn't know that. I liked the miniseries |
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| [21:12:00] | D-side_: | opello: i watched the first two eps, that was it. |
| [21:12:00] | opello: | GreyFoxx: another one --- season 2 |
| [21:12:00] | rjune: | laga: send me your latest defs before you got o bed for the night, I'll poke at them now that I have acces to lbe |
| [21:12:00] | laga: | rjune: one last try. :) |
| [21:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | All I saw was like 4–5 episodes of a miniseries. I didn't know they mean an actually "season" of it |
| [21:13:00] | laga: | going to bed? nice joke, i still have to read 200 pages in this stupid book ;) |
| [21:13:00] | rjune: | school? |
| [21:13:00] | D-side_: | aw shit. |
| [21:13:00] | D-side_: | mythtv compile is going to fail because of stupid firewire deps that wont be met. |
| [21:13:00] | D-side_: | goddamnit. |
| [21:13:00] | laga: | yep. going to have a class test in approximately 11 hours ;) |
| [21:14:00] | rjune: | dear god man, let that stuff be |
| [21:14:00] | rjune: | do your school bits |
| [21:14:00] | laga: | rjune: don't worry, i've read it before ;) |
| [21:14:00] | cyberknet: | D-side_: I saw something about that on the mythtv-dev list the other day. pretty sure I saw a patch for it too. |
| [21:14:00] | laga: | rjune: but you're right, i bet it won't work because i didn't set the QTDIR env. |
| [21:14:00] | D-side_: | cyberknet: who knows, maybe 0.18.1 fixes it? |
| [21:15:00] | rjune: | I do that sometimes. |
| [21:15:00] | cyberknet: | Cox is saying they while they do have to provide a firewire port, the fcc did not mandate that they have to provide firewire at no additional charge. Ergo cox charges $15 / month more fore it. |
| [21:15:00] | D-side_: | cyberknet: its simple enough to add --disable-firewire to the ./configure options. |
| [21:15:00] | cyberknet: | D-side_: indeed. |
| [21:15:00] | D-side_: | cyberknet: WHOA. |
| [21:15:00] | D-side_: | those guys can go f themselves |
| [21:15:00] | rjune: | cox or the fcc? |
| [21:15:00] | cyberknet: | D-side_: Because the STB that has the firewire built in is capable of more. |
| [21:16:00] | D-side_: | cyberknet: thats still utter crap. |
| [21:16:00] | cyberknet: | (HD capable box. not sure if it does PVR functions too) |
| [21:16:00] | cyberknet: | Yes. I think so too. |
| [21:16:00] | D-side_: | rjune: cox in this case. :) |
| [21:16:00] | xris: | cyberknet: I thought that the fcc thing DID state that as long as you were paying for HD content, they had to provide firewire |
| [21:18:00] | cyberknet: | xris: not paying for HD content here. |
| [21:18:00] | cyberknet: | just digital content. |
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| [21:20:00] | xris: | cyberknet: yeah, which is why you have to pay extra, then. |
| [21:20:00] | xris: | they don't have to provide you with ANYTHING if you don't get HD. |
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| [21:21:00] | cyberknet: | bugger. |
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| [21:22:00] | cyberknet: | they came out to install the digital cable and I told my wife to tell them to just leave the box. |
| [21:22:00] | cyberknet: | She bought it to me at work |
| [21:22:00] | cyberknet: | You should have seen it |
| [21:22:00] | cyberknet: | all dirty, and filthy |
| [21:22:00] | xris: | the NEW box? |
| [21:22:00] | cyberknet: | remote had cruft all over the buttons |
| [21:22:00] | cyberknet: | I highly doubt that it was new. |
| [21:22:00] | xris: | well, "new" |
| [21:22:00] | cyberknet: | yeah. "new" |
| [21:22:00] | xris: | that sucks. |
| [21:23:00] | cyberknet: | Took that puppy right back. |
| [21:23:00] | D-side_: | wheres your local office? |
| [21:23:00] | D-side_: | yeah. heh |
| [21:23:00] | cyberknet: | Now I'll tell them to stick their box and their digital service. |
| [21:23:00] | D-side_: | take it back, yell a lot, get a shiny new one AND a free month of service. |
| [21:23:00] | cyberknet: | D-side_: to quote you... they can go and f their digital service =) |
| [21:23:00] | laga: | rjune: you've got mail ;) |
| [21:24:00] | cyberknet: | I'm not about to go and pay for a IR blaster to test out digital cable for two months. |
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| [21:24:00] | cyberknet: | and I'm certainly not paying for HD content (another $15 a month) just to get a firewire port to play with digital. |
| [21:24:00] | cyberknet: | that's way too much. |
| [21:24:00] | laga: | ask d-side to solder you one, sounds like a good opportunity for him to set his house on fire ;) |
| [21:25:00] | rjune: | laga: coo |
| [21:25:00] | rjune: | i'll poke todauy and email you back |
| [21:25:00] | laga: | rjune: it almost works for me, at least $things get installed in the right path. expect for libmyth etc, but i guess it was the issue with WTDIR. |
| [21:25:00] | laga: | QTDIR* |
| [21:25:00] | laga: | rjune: thanks. |
| [21:26:00] | laga: | .oO(...everything is provided on a 'doesn't work for me' base. no warranties...gnu-yadda...) |
| [21:27:00] | AggiEmpeg: | ok guys, anyone know how supported the PVR-150 is by Myth? Everything I've read raves about the 250/350 support and only mentions partial 150 support |
| [21:27:00] | AggiEmpeg: | anyone care to chime in on this most likely beat to death topic? |
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| [21:29:00] | xris: | cyberknet: Dish |
| [21:30:00] | xris: | AggiEmpeg: mythtv supports it just fine. the linux drivers are the issue. and it's fairly well supported. |
| [21:30:00] | cyberknet: | xris: Cable Internet |
| [21:30:00] | xris: | cyberknet: so? |
| [21:30:00] | xris: | it's not like you NEED tv to get internet, is it/ |
| [21:30:00] | cyberknet: | not explicitly. |
| [21:31:00] | kormoc: | it's just cheaper |
| [21:31:00] | xris: | by what, $10? |
| [21:31:00] | cyberknet: | in the neighborhood of |
| [21:31:00] | rjune: | 30 for me |
| [21:31:00] | AggiEmpeg: | xris: thanks. Any serious performance gains for the 250 over the 150 that you know of? |
| [21:31:00] | xris: | at least here, digital cable is $10–20/month more than dishnetwork. |
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| [21:31:00] | xris: | AggiEmpeg: 150 supposedly has a better comb filter, but that's been disputed. |
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| [21:32:00] | D-side_: | thats another reason to try firewire input. |
| [21:32:00] | D-side_: | pure mpeg straight from the box. |
| [21:32:00] | xris: | ... since you don't have to pay taxes on satellite stuff, and cable has around $8–10 in tax on top of the monthly fees. |
| [21:32:00] | D-side_: | no need for a tuner card. |
| [21:32:00] | xris: | D-side_: yes. as long as you're already paying for HD, that's no big deal. |
| [21:33:00] | AggiEmpeg: | xris: in your opinion, would you say it isn't worth the additional $$ for the 250 then? |
| [21:33:00] | D-side_: | xris: i'm really considering it. it'd be great to have HD content for PC playback, as I don't have an HDTV set. |
| [21:33:00] | xris: | AggiEmpeg: 250 will be easier to deal with driverwise. |
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| [21:33:00] | xris: | D-side_: the firewire stuff is NOT hd. It's SD. |
| [21:33:00] | AggiEmpeg: | xris: thx for the advice |
| [21:33:00] | xris: | 480p is SD. |
| [21:34:00] | D-side_: | xris: oh thats right, we were just talking about that. |
| [21:34:00] | xris: | AggiEmpeg: but on that note, my 150 works fine. |
| [21:34:00] | D-side_: | its an encryption issue? |
| [21:34:00] | cyberknet: | $30 / month for dish |
| [21:36:00] | D-side_: | jeez. |
| [21:37:00] | D-side_: | thats cheap as hell. |
| [21:37:00] | rjune: | 25 for me |
| [21:38:00] | xris: | D-side_: no. that's just the law. HD content is broadcast-flaggish (even without the real broadcast flag), and encrypted. the FCC ruling is there to guarantee that you can get non-encrypted versions of that same content |
| [21:38:00] | xris: | D-side_: I pay $43/month for 180 Dish channels.. basic analog cable here is $50/month or so, plus another $8–10 in tax. |
| [21:39:00] | D-side_: | xris: ah now i understand. |
| [21:39:00] | xris: | you can get 60 Dish channels for a bit less than that. |
| [21:39:00] | xris: | or 120 |
| [21:39:00] | D-side_: | i was thinking about my actual usage as it is... 95% of my recordings are network tv anyway. |
| [21:39:00] | cyberknet: | dish lowest package costs about the same as the upcharge from basic cable to "expanded basic" from cox... |
| [21:40:00] | xris: | D-side_: yeah, and mine are mostly scifi and foodtv. |
| [21:40:00] | D-side_: | maybe i want to get rid of one of these PVR-250s. |
| [21:40:00] | D-side_: | xris: you're making a compelling argument for me to try this. :) |
| [21:40:00] | xris: | D-side_: I like Dish.. (and I'll even whore out my referral info if you decide to do it). quality is great over svideo, too. |
| [21:41:00] | xris: | only downfall is that it doesn't fall under that FCC ruling, so no firewire. |
| [21:41:00] | xris: | but seriously, svideo -> pvr-150 is great. |
| [21:42:00] | xris: | Directv is probably the same — I found it to be about $5–10/month more than Dish, so opted for Dish. |
| [21:42:00] | rjune: | but you need the dish tuner still, right? |
| [21:42:00] | D-side_: | i'm sure it is, but my crap cable company wont give me a box with svideo out. |
| [21:42:00] | D-side_: | firewire, sure. |
| [21:42:00] | xris: | rjune: it's included in the package |
| [21:42:00] | xris: | oh, yeah.. my $43/month includes two dual-tuner receivers. |
| [21:42:00] | D-side_: | cyberknet: you were right. i had no firewire compilation issues with 0.18.1 |
| [21:42:00] | xris: | I pay $5/month for the extra one.. and as long as you keep them plugged into dialtone, the second tuner in each receiver is free. |
| [21:42:00] | D-side_: | xris: jeez. is that a regional price, or nationwide? |
| [21:43:00] | rjune: | right, but 150 can't do it, so you can't program the myth box as well |
| [21:43:00] | xris: | D-side_: Dish is nationwide. |
| [21:43:00] | D-side_: | xris: i meant pricing |
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| [21:43:00] | xris: | D-side_: pricing. |
| [21:43:00] | D-side_: | nice. |
| [21:43:00] | xris: | biggest problem with the dual-tuner receivers is the second tuner is controlled via RF, so you can't set up two myth inputs on them. |
| [21:44:00] | cyberknet: | xris: so what are you saying about dish? that with them I can get firewire? |
| [21:44:00] | xris: | it's the 322: http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/products/r . . . /index.shtml |
| [21:44:00] | xris: | cyberknet: no, you can't. the FCC ruling applied only to cable. |
| [21:44:00] | cyberknet: | xris: then... |
| [21:44:00] | rjune: | dvb tuner cards will work with dish feed directly though, ya? |
| [21:45:00] | xris: | rjune: sort of.. encryption is different, so you have to break the law. |
| [21:45:00] | xris: | but I hear that it's possible. |
| [21:45:00] | xris: | cyberknet: just saying that it's better than analog cable, for about the same price. |
| [21:46:00] | cyberknet: | xris: aaah. my analog cable is just local channels. I just expanded it (for about the same price as dish, you are right) for a few months while my dad is over. |
| [21:47:00] | xris: | hmm, seems Dish raised their prices a bit higher for new customers. their advertised price is more than I pay. |
| [21:47:00] | cyberknet: | my cable tv cost is $13. My cable internet cost is $55. I get $10 discount for having both. My expanded basic that I just ordered costs an additional $25. |
| [21:47:00] | D-side_: | whats that give you? |
| [21:47:00] | xris: | cyberknet: that's much better than comcast. |
| [21:47:00] | rjune: | cyberknet: mediacom? |
| [21:47:00] | cyberknet: | rjune: Cox |
| [21:47:00] | D-side_: | xris: seems close. |
| [21:48:00] | D-side_: | i havent looked at my bill for quite a while (read as: I havent paid my bill for quite a while), so i dont know for sure. |
| [21:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | wow, 55 USD ? |
| [21:48:00] | D-side_: | for internet, yeah. |
| [21:48:00] | cyberknet: | D-side_: It $12 gets me next to nothing. Just local channels. 1-twenty something. Expanded gets me the 1->sixty something |
| [21:48:00] | cyberknet: | yes. 55 USD for internet. |
| [21:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | I pay $38.95 CDN |
| [21:48:00] | cyberknet: | GreyFoxx: I live in BFE, Oklahoma |
| [21:48:00] | D-side_: | cyberknet: ah. |
| [21:49:00] | D-side_: | i forget how much i pay for digital. |
| [21:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | 38.95 CAD |
| [21:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | Canada Dollars =31.0375 USD |
| [21:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | United States Dollars |
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| [21:50:00] | cyberknet: | D-side_: Digital costs another $2, and if I wanted HD that would cost me another $15 |
| [21:51:00] | D-side_: | hm. 2–171 |
| [21:51:00] | D-side_: | cyberknet: but with digital you get way more channels than 1–60 |
| [21:51:00] | cyberknet: | D-side_: correct. |
| [21:51:00] | D-side_: | probably worth it for $2/mo |
| [21:51:00] | cyberknet: | D-side_: at the expense of having to use a cable box |
| [21:51:00] | D-side_: | cyberknet: yeah, but thats not TOO bad. |
| [21:51:00] | D-side_: | my ir blaster was a cinch to set up. |
| [21:52:00] | xris: | cyberknet: yeah. quality of digital (cable or dish) is SO much better than analog |
| [21:52:00] | cyberknet: | D-side_: not if I was keeping it permanently, an IR blaster would solve it. But It would only be for two months, and I'm not ubying an ir blaster for now. |
| [21:52:00] | D-side_: | using clear duct-tape to attach it to the box was fun too. |
| [21:52:00] | xris: | since you can go over composite or svideo instead of rf. |
| [21:52:00] | D-side_: | cyberknet: what happens in 2 mos? |
| [21:52:00] | cyberknet: | D-side_: I only got the expanded for two months while my dad is over. |
| [21:52:00] | D-side_: | xris: precisely what i do with my digital box (composite) |
| [21:53:00] | D-side_: | although i really only record network tv stuff, i really LOVE having the option to watch more if i want. |
| [21:53:00] | D-side_: | which is why i pay. |
| [21:53:00] | cyberknet: | D-side_: so he doesn't get bored out of his mind while I'm at work. |
| [21:53:00] | D-side_: | understood. :) |
| [21:53:00] | cyberknet: | if I was keeping the expanded, I think I'd probably just switch to DISH since it provides so many more channels for the same cost. |
| [21:53:00] | cyberknet: | and I could control them with an IR blaster just as easily as the cable box. |
| [21:54:00] | wolog: | Hi, is there a way to change the default parental level for record inserted in database ? |
| [21:54:00] | cyberknet: | although the cable boxes had serial ports on the back of them for something. |
| [21:54:00] | cyberknet: | not ure what. |
| [21:54:00] | D-side_: | cyberknet: some of them let you use a serial cable for channel control. |
| [21:54:00] | D-side_: | the box i have does it, but my cable company is too stupid to comprehend turning it on |
| [21:55:00] | cyberknet: | D-side_: that's about what I figured. Although it also had a separate "IR" port on the back. |
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| [21:55:00] | cyberknet: | D-side_: cable companies are frigging retarded. |
| [21:56:00] | D-side_: | cyberknet: mine too. motorola? |
| [21:56:00] | cyberknet: | Yeah. |
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| [21:56:00] | D-side_: | DCT-2000? :) |
| [21:56:00] | cyberknet: | D-side_: probably. |
| [21:56:00] | cyberknet: | DCT22[##] |
| [21:56:00] | D-side_: | cyberknet: hey, maybe you wouldnt need that IR blaster after all. :D |
| [21:56:00] | cyberknet: | already got rid of the box =) |
| [21:57:00] | cyberknet: | D-side_: why do you say that though? |
| [21:57:00] | D-side_: | cyberknet: who knows? maybe that box would work with the serial channel change scripts. |
| [21:57:00] | D-side_: | gotta split. going home. |
| [21:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | The DCT 2000 , at least the one I use to have, had a serial port that if enabled by the ISP can be used to control it |
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| [22:03:00] | GeckoFiend: | holy crap! Some kid went apeshit and killed 6 people, wounded another and killed himself. most of the folks he shot were family |
| [22:03:00] | GeckoFiend: | not too far from my house |
| [22:03:00] | laga: | :/ |
| [22:04:00] | GreyFoxx: | some fscked up people out there |
| [22:04:00] | GeckoFiend: | heh yeah |
| [22:04:00] | GeckoFiend: | shit like that isn |
| [22:04:00] | GeckoFiend: | isn't supposed to happen out here in the country |
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| [22:09:00] | abarbaccia: | hey all – i have a few questions about DVD transcoding – the quality, even when on excellent (other than perfect) still has much to be desired. Anybody have any alternatives? |
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| [22:22:00] | nick125: | hi |
| [22:23:00] | ** nick125 is having problems with the 'Watch TV' thing on his mythtv box...it cuts off alot of stuff at the edges ** | |
| [22:23:00] | nick125: | PVR-150 btw |
| [22:26:00] | Bob-Laptop: | nick125: it is in the capture settings if you are seeing the same thing I saw |
| [22:26:00] | Bob-Laptop: | it is capturing a square picture |
| [22:28:00] | nick125: | yeah |
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| [22:29:00] | nick125: | hmm |
| [22:29:00] | nick125: | what does this mean: Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
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| [22:31:00] | nick125: | it cuts off the right side |
| [22:31:00] | abarbaccia: | nick125 you gotta change the size of the capture thing |
| [22:31:00] | abarbaccia: | change it to NTSC resolution |
| [22:31:00] | abarbaccia: | 740 x 480 |
| [22:31:00] | cortezdapimp: | 720 |
| [22:31:00] | cortezdapimp: | do you have a pvr150? |
| [22:31:00] | abarbaccia: | sorry, thanks – yea, he's got it i think |
| [22:32:00] | cortezdapimp: | i had the smae thing |
| [22:32:00] | abarbaccia: | nick125, change all your profiles – we all went through it |
| [22:32:00] | nick125: | its a pvr150, yes |
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| [22:32:00] | nick125: | k |
| [22:32:00] | abarbaccia: | anybody here use the DVD plugin to rip the DVDs to excellent quality |
| [22:32:00] | abarbaccia: | or anything other than perfect? |
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| [22:34:00] | nick125: | ok, that worked, now, I need to get the tuning to work |
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| [22:36:00] | cortezdapimp: | i do perfect |
| [22:36:00] | GeckoFiend: | abarbaccia I do excellent |
| [22:37:00] | cortezdapimp: | does mythvideo (mplayer i believe) play h.264 content? |
| [22:37:00] | kormoc: | mythvideo can use mplayer or xine or myth's internal player |
| [22:37:00] | GeckoFiend: | cortezdapimp mythvideo can use any player. |
| [22:37:00] | cortezdapimp: | ok well which ones play h.264? |
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| [22:37:00] | kormoc: | donno, did you try google? |
| [22:37:00] | cortezdapimp: | i decided thats what i'm importing to from now on if i can |
| [22:38:00] | cortezdapimp: | pssh that makes way too much sense |
| [22:38:00] | nick125: | anyone here know how to get the pvr150 tuner working? |
| [22:38:00] | cortezdapimp: | yes |
| [22:38:00] | cortezdapimp: | are you using knoppmyth? |
| [22:38:00] | cortezdapimp: | actually i dont use the tuner, jsut the composite input |
| [22:38:00] | nick125: | im using gentoo here...this is my box I do everything on hehe |
| [22:39:00] | cortezdapimp: | ok |
| [22:39:00] | cortezdapimp: | which ivtv version? |
| [22:40:00] | cortezdapimp: | i'm using 0.2.0 rc3 |
| [22:40:00] | nick125: | let me check |
| [22:40:00] | cortezdapimp: | it auto-detected everythign, i just needed to set the mixer channel for the wm8775 module to just capture composite sound |
| [22:40:00] | nick125: | everything is working here except tuning |
| [22:41:00] | cortezdapimp: | ok well that i cant help you with, on account of i dont use the turner |
| [22:41:00] | cortezdapimp: | tuner |
| [22:41:00] | cortezdapimp: | sorry |
| [22:41:00] | nick125: | 0.3.2-r18 |
| [22:41:00] | cortezdapimp: | try the 0.2.0 rc3 |
| [22:41:00] | nick125: | what settings did you use in the setup for the card? |
| [22:41:00] | cortezdapimp: | or 0.3.4 |
| [22:41:00] | cortezdapimp: | in myth setup? |
| [22:41:00] | kormoc: | iirc. you need the 0.3.x series for the 150/500;s |
| [22:42:00] | cortezdapimp: | i just picked it as a mpeg2 card (250/230 type |
| [22:42:00] | cortezdapimp: | the newest 0.2.0-rc3 as included in the newest knoppmyth works as well, kormoc |
| [22:42:00] | nick125: | ok, so, I got the setup right |
| [22:42:00] | cortezdapimp: | but you're probably going to need one newer than 0.3.2 |
| [22:43:00] | nick125: | video and audio work fine, tuning works if I use ptune |
| [22:45:00] | cortezdapimp: | what does the picture look like in myth/ |
| [22:46:00] | cortezdapimp: | flat black, static, or black with a wave through it occasionally |
| [22:47:00] | nick125: | right now, the picture im getting is pretty good, just a little bit of static |
| [22:47:00] | cortezdapimp: | bbl |
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| [22:51:00] | opello: | what's that fcc ruling business about firewire? |
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| [22:55:00] | ** nick125 waits for mythfilldatabase to finish up ** | |
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| [23:05:00] | nick125: | anyone got the tuner working on a pvr 150? |
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| [23:08:00] | cortezda2imp: | opello did you find out yet? |
| [23:08:00] | cortezda2imp: | basically they're required to offer cable boxes with firewire output. |
| [23:08:00] | opello: | oh |
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| [23:14:00] | brejc8: | If anyone is interested I started working on including the recommendation system in the mythfronend. |
| [23:14:00] | brejc8: | In mythweb you can now search for a recommendation source name http://brej.org/mythtv/recommendations/search.php.htm |
| [23:14:00] | brejc8: | On the front end you can browse through the list of recommended programs: http://brej.org/mythtv/recommendations/lists1.png .... lists4.png |
| [23:14:00] | brejc8: | And record if there is a recommendation. http://brej.org/mythtv/recommendations/rec_all1.png |
| [23:14:00] | D-side: | opello: only for HD content. |
| [23:15:00] | D-side: | opello: if you provide HD content, you're required to offer 1394 output. |
| [23:15:00] | opello: | what was that $15 thing? |
| [23:15:00] | opello: | "they didn't say ... free" |
| [23:15:00] | opello: | ? |
| [23:16:00] | D-side: | opello: your cable provider will charge you more for HD content. |
| [23:17:00] | opello: | right |
| [23:17:00] | ** xris kicks the stupid dell printer. ** | |
| [23:17:00] | ** nick125 sighs ** | |
| [23:17:00] | GeckoFiend: | hey brejc8 did you get my email? (jdonavan) |
| [23:17:00] | brejc8: | no sorry I didnt |
| [23:18:00] | ** nick125 kicks the stupid PVR-150....I cant tune it from mythtv :(:( ** | |
| [23:18:00] | brejc8: | GeckoFiend what address did you use? |
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| [23:20:00] | brejc8: | GeckoFiend send me again to "mythtv at brej dot org" |
| [23:21:00] | brejc8: | I have to go |
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| [23:21:00] | pyrodex: | Anyone where to get a listing of hdtv guide lineups that may not exist on zap2it? |
| [23:21:00] | xris: | pyrodex: the channels themselves. |
| [23:21:00] | xris: | tune in for 30 seconds or so and it should fill the listing. |
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| [23:25:00] | dunc_: | hi, are there any uk dvb users around? |
| [23:25:00] | pyrodex: | xris even if I capture via firewire? |
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| [23:26:00] | D-side: | xris: what you just said confused the hell out of me. |
| [23:26:00] | xris: | pyrodex: that's not hdtv |
| [23:26:00] | xris: | firewire is SD |
| [23:26:00] | D-side: | xris: lineups can be filled OTA? |
| [23:26:00] | pyrodex: | ok will SD then |
| [23:27:00] | xris: | D-side: for atsc and dvb, yes. |
| [23:27:00] | nick125: | anyone got a pvr-150 working with mythtv and gentoo? I cant tune it anymore :( |
| [23:28:00] | sunilonln: | nick125: what ivtv version are you running? |
| [23:29:00] | nick125: | 0.3.2-r18 |
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| [23:29:00] | D-side: | xris: thats pretty good. |
| [23:29:00] | xris: | D-side: yeah, it's kind of cool |
| [23:29:00] | D-side: | xris: solely for HD content on those specific channels? |
| [23:29:00] | D-side: | i'd have to imagine so |
| [23:30:00] | D-side: | how does mythtv populate the db with that? thats just... |
| [23:30:00] | D-side: | i'll shut up. |
| [23:30:00] | nick125: | sunilonln: the video and audio work great, it just wont tune |
| [23:31:00] | sunilonln: | nick125: video and audio meaning from component/svideo in? |
| [23:31:00] | nick125: | Im using tuner0 |
| [23:31:00] | sunilonln: | hmm |
| [23:31:00] | sunilonln: | well then |
| [23:31:00] | sunilonln: | not sure |
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| [23:34:00] | nick125: | it wont change the channels, even in ptune :( |
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| [23:40:00] | Peit|home: | does anyone here know how i can ensure only transcode jobs run on a specific (in this case master) backend? whithout scheduling them one at a time.. |
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| [23:44:00] | nick125: | ok, im emerging 0.3.5 |
| [23:44:00] | dunc_: | how long can i expect a dvb channel scan to take? |
| [23:44:00] | dunc_: | it's been like 10 mins and seems to be stuck on 10% |
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| [23:49:00] | opello: | hrm, scifi channel has an ~ 1" black bar on the left when stargate is on, but not for commercials/scifi ads for shows (like the bsg one that was just on) |
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| [23:50:00] | nick125: | 0.3.5 didnt help with the tuning issue :( |
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| [23:53:00] | nick125: | hmm |
| [23:54:00] | nick125: | what is the correct tuner type for a pvr-150/NTSC? |
| [23:54:00] | nick125: | getting alot of these errors in dmesg: tuner: tuner type not set |
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| [23:55:00] | kgbudz: | i have a master and slave mythtv setup |
| [23:55:00] | kgbudz: | and im getting this error |
| [23:55:00] | kgbudz: | frequently |
| [23:55:00] | kgbudz: | "Mutex destroy failure" |
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| [23:56:00] | kgbudz: | i read somewhere its cause the slave is exiting? |
| [23:57:00] | kormoc: | A mutual exclusion lock. A mutex serializes the execution of multiple threads. |
| [23:57:00] | kormoc: | it basically means it tried to kill a child thread and the child was busy and didn't exit cleanly |
| [23:57:00] | kormoc: | not really something to worry bout |
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| [23:59:00] | kgbudz: | well, my backend exits |
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| [23:59:00] | kgbudz: | which is something i worry about |
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