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| [00:00:00] | opello: | i don't have that problem |
| [00:00:00] | Buckabooboob: | since i upgraded past 2.0 |
| [00:01:00] | Buckabooboob: | brb.. gonna backdate my drivers to 3.2o... you find your is stable? |
| [00:03:00] | Leebier: | aiiie, anyone around who can help with any of the following problems |
| [00:03:00] | Leebier: | 1) getting audio to be picked up by my PVR350 |
| [00:03:00] | Leebier: | 2) outputting X to my TV |
| [00:03:00] | Leebier: | 3) "video steam not found" when trying to watch livetv in myth |
| [00:04:00] | Leebier: | 4) ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO) when trying to access MySQL to restore the backed up mythconverg |
| [00:04:00] | Leebier: | that's the end of the list :) |
| [00:05:00] | Buckabooboob: | are you using your 350 for tvout? |
| [00:05:00] | Leebier: | trying to, yes :) |
| [00:06:00] | Leebier: | oh, and 5) my remote isn't working in myth but irw works fine |
| [00:06:00] | Buckabooboob: | did you patch the sound back into your soundcard or direct to your stereo? |
| [00:07:00] | Leebier: | previously (before my current upgrade) i needed to do nothing extra with audio as the PVR-350 outputs the audio to the TV with the video (composite cable) |
| [00:07:00] | Leebier: | however, i think we're not even to that problem |
| [00:08:00] | Leebier: | because if i run a "cat" to capture video and output back on the monitor, i have no audio either (but i do have audio for non-video capture things) |
| [00:08:00] | Buckabooboob: | Have you checked a recording on a diffrent computer? (isolate the issue of not recording sound VS outputing sound) |
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| [00:09:00] | rjune: | anybody use mythgame? it keeps telling me it can't use the version of xmame I have. |
| [00:10:00] | opello: | Buckabooboob: sorry, missed your message, yeah, i find mine pretty stable — sometimes mythtv just up and crashes (with 0.17 and 0.18) haven't seen that yet with 0.18.1 though |
| [00:10:00] | Leebier: | i have not, altough now i have the problem that it's just recording a black screen now and not the video input |
| [00:10:00] | Leebier: | which is just wonderful |
| [00:11:00] | Buckabooboob: | opello: Ack.. 3.2o is baaad... Holy errors when i rebooted... Your running a standalone 500? or have another PVR in the mix? |
| [00:11:00] | Buckabooboob: | Did you set your tuner? (I know its a bumb question :) ) |
| [00:11:00] | opello: | Buckabooboob: standalone |
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| [00:11:00] | opello: | Buckabooboob: yup, nothing manual on my part (57 iirc) |
| [00:12:00] | Leebier: | am just trying something like cat /dev/video0 > /tmp/test_capture.mpg |
| [00:12:00] | Leebier: | which generally hasn't required any other settings to get going |
| [00:12:00] | Buckabooboob: | What is your setup script like for the 500? |
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| [00:13:00] | opello: | Buckabooboob: setup script? |
| [00:13:00] | Buckabooboob: | You should be doing something to init it.. |
| [00:14:00] | Buckabooboob: | #PVR-500 tuner 1 – NTSC, 1:1 scaling, tuner input (6 on 500), good DNR |
| [00:14:00] | Buckabooboob: | Oops.. can't cut and paste in here :) |
| [00:15:00] | opello: | Buckabooboob: i am using gentoo, and added 'ivtv' to their autoloading modules, everything else is autoloaded based on modules.conf |
| [00:15:00] | opello: | Buckabooboob: which, i just aliased the 0.3.2o modules to 'xxxx-ivtv' so that i could make sure i was loading the right ones |
| [00:16:00] | Buckabooboob: | What are you passing in your modules.conf? No extra params? just aliasing the modules? |
| [00:16:00] | opello: | yup |
| [00:16:00] | Buckabooboob: | Dang.. YOu have life good :) |
| [00:16:00] | opello: | if i could ssh to the box i would get it exactly |
| [00:16:00] | opello: | but i didn't pass anything |
| [00:16:00] | opello: | heh, i was happy |
| [00:17:00] | Buckabooboob: | I should pull my 350 and see if the 500 comes up.. |
| [00:18:00] | Buckabooboob: | Lee: Anyway you should be using mythtv as the username and password to access the database unless you changed it... That would kill that error |
| [00:18:00] | rjune: | Hrm, ok. has anybody set the plot for a vidieo manually? I went into the database and set the plot for some Full Metal Alchemist, but when I look via mythtv it still says None |
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| [00:20:00] | Buckabooboob: | Lee: I was very unhappy about the 350's output.. I stopped using it... Its aweful for non-Mpeg2 video... but I had it running on a via M10K so I had no processing power. |
| [00:20:00] | alainm: | so you are saying that 350's are not good? |
| [00:21:00] | alainm: | i only read good things about those cards |
| [00:21:00] | Buckabooboob: | I wouldn't say that |
| [00:21:00] | Buckabooboob: | I didn't like my experience with a 350 |
| [00:21:00] | alainm: | oh.. i just bought one.. and i will be trying it out tonight |
| [00:22:00] | Buckabooboob: | I would say if you have a via M10K and are thinking of using a 350... Don't.. get a 150 or a 250 and use the Via's onboard decoder. |
| [00:22:00] | opello: | there are others here that i believe are happy with it — i don't know much about it though |
| [00:22:00] | Leebier: | sorry, zoned out a bit, and yeah, if i had to do it all over, i may not get a 350, but once i got it working last time, it worked fine |
| [00:22:00] | Leebier: | and i don't really do any transcoding |
| [00:23:00] | Leebier: | buckabooboob- i'm not sure what you mean for accessing the mysql, if i just type mysql (or put a -u root after it) i get the error |
| [00:23:00] | Buckabooboob: | opello: Yeah.. I didn't say I didn't like the 350... I just found for non Mpeg2 video it was horrible.. It may have been helped along withthe lack of CPU that the M10K has. |
| [00:23:00] | Leebier: | i'm not sure what else i can do differently |
| [00:24:00] | Buckabooboob: | You should be connecting as mythtv not root |
| [00:24:00] | opello: | Leebier: did you set a root password (or does your distribution?) when you installed it? |
| [00:24:00] | Leebier: | yeah |
| [00:24:00] | opello: | (relative to mysql, not the user 'root' account) |
| [00:24:00] | opello: | mysql -u root -p |
| [00:24:00] | Leebier: | i've been following the FC walkthrough |
| [00:24:00] | opello: | you need the -p so that it'll prompt for the password |
| [00:24:00] | Leebier: | ahhh, the -p |
| [00:24:00] | Leebier: | there we go |
| [00:25:00] | Buckabooboob: | Ah! That reminds me.. Your sound problem! |
| [00:25:00] | opello: | audio group? |
| [00:25:00] | Buckabooboob: | its cause there is a stale msp3400.o kickin about |
| [00:26:00] | Buckabooboob: | find all the msp3400.o's and kill them and install the ones you build with ivtv |
| [00:26:00] | Leebier: | yeah, i saw something about it on the walkthrough, but i've tried w/ both names and it doesn't seem to change anything |
| [00:26:00] | Buckabooboob: | That happened to me. |
| [00:26:00] | Leebier: | i've not built anything, just using rpms |
| [00:26:00] | Buckabooboob: | Well.. try rebuilding ivtv.. |
| [00:27:00] | Buckabooboob: | what version of ivtv you uising? |
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| [00:27:00] | Buckabooboob: | no sound on capture but picture is a very good sign of conflicting msp3400.o's |
| [00:27:00] | Leebier: | well, i have two in there now, which coudl also be a source of the problem :) |
| [00:27:00] | Leebier: | which one should i keep? |
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| [00:28:00] | Buckabooboob: | The newest one ? :) |
| [00:28:00] | Leebier: | they're copies of one another |
| [00:28:00] | opello: | you can modinfo /path/to/module and maybe see more information about that one |
| [00:28:00] | Leebier: | actually, i have only one now anyway |
| [00:29:00] | Buckabooboob: | what version you using? 2.0? or 1.9? |
| [00:29:00] | Leebier: | /lib/modules/2.6.10–1.770_14.rhfc3.at/kernel/drivers/media/video/msp3400.k o is what i have |
| [00:29:00] | Leebier: | of ivtv? |
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| [00:29:00] | Buckabooboob: | Yup |
| [00:30:00] | Leebier: | 2.0–68 |
| [00:30:00] | Buckabooboob: | That should be good.. Just rebuild it and install it.. your sound should come back.. |
| [00:30:00] | Leebier: | um, so i've never built anything before |
| [00:31:00] | Leebier: | i've tried twice and hosed things pretty bad |
| [00:31:00] | Buckabooboob: | Its easy if you have the kernel src installed :) |
| [00:31:00] | Buckabooboob: | type make install in the driver directory |
| [00:31:00] | Buckabooboob: | can't go wrong :) |
| [00:31:00] | Leebier: | but i need to find the driver somewhere? |
| [00:31:00] | Leebier: | i mean, do i need to download a different version of what i have? |
| [00:32:00] | Buckabooboob: | just the ivtv src file. |
| [00:32:00] | Leebier: | or is it somethign that came down with the rpms |
| [00:32:00] | Buckabooboob: | get the srpms for it. |
| [00:32:00] | Buckabooboob: | well the rpms should be good though. |
| [00:32:00] | Buckabooboob: | try reinstalling the rpms |
| [00:33:00] | Buckabooboob: | make sure something else didn't include a bad one that over wrote it. |
| [00:33:00] | Leebier: | apt-get install ivtv netted me nothing |
| [00:34:00] | Buckabooboob: | try the version |
| [00:34:00] | Buckabooboob: | Naa.. Sec. |
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| [00:35:00] | Leebier: | pardon? |
| [00:35:00] | Buckabooboob: | I am lookin for a apt source for ya for ivtv |
| [00:36:00] | Leebier: | ah, ok, thanks :) |
| [00:39:00] | Buckabooboob: | you on fc3? |
| [00:39:00] | Leebier: | yes |
| [00:39:00] | Leebier: | sorry, should have mentioned that before :) |
| [00:40:00] | Buckabooboob: | its ok |
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| [00:41:00] | Leebier: | is this what i want ? http://dl.atrpms.net/production/packages/fedo . . . .at.i386.rpm |
| [00:43:00] | Buckabooboob: | That should work |
| [00:43:00] | Buckabooboob: | Just found this one |
| [00:43:00] | Buckabooboob: | atrpms.physik.fu-berlin.de/dist/fc3/ivtv-0.2.x/ivtv-0.2.0–68_rc3j.rhfc3.at .i386.rpm |
| [00:43:00] | Buckabooboob: | But it should be the same |
| [00:43:00] | Leebier: | says it is already installed |
| [00:44:00] | Leebier: | d'oh, i'm buliding this and not rpming it, right? |
| [00:44:00] | Buckabooboob: | try remove then install |
| [00:44:00] | Buckabooboob: | RPM will be better for you i think.. |
| [00:44:00] | Leebier: | lol, ok |
| [00:44:00] | Leebier: | i figured :-d |
| [00:44:00] | Leebier: | :-D |
| [00:44:00] | Buckabooboob: | you will need the source for the kernel you have installed aswell |
| [00:45:00] | Buckabooboob: | if you were to build |
| [00:45:00] | Leebier: | hmm, how do i remove w/ the rpm command? |
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| [00:46:00] | Buckabooboob: | Not sure |
| [00:46:00] | Buckabooboob: | :) |
| [00:46:00] | Leebier: | glad i'm not the only one :) |
| [00:46:00] | Leebier: | ah -e |
| [00:46:00] | Buckabooboob: | Or you could try knoppmyth r5a15.1 |
| [00:46:00] | Buckabooboob: | That should just work ;) |
| [00:47:00] | Leebier: | why is it every time that i've gotten 90% of the way done and have a couple last problems, somebody starts extolling the virtues of knoppmyth |
| [00:47:00] | Leebier: | and then beirdo comes along and says it's better to use FC because there's more people on it to give help and there's the walkthroughs in case thigns don't "just work" |
| [00:47:00] | Buckabooboob: | I am not gonna ramble on on knoppmyth :) |
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| [00:48:00] | Leebier: | ok, i'm reinstalled ivtv |
| [00:48:00] | Buckabooboob: | Any audio? |
| [00:48:00] | Leebier: | lemme rty |
| [00:49:00] | Buckabooboob: | and knoppmyth blows hard for a via M10K :) |
| [00:49:00] | Buckabooboob: | minimyth much better :) |
| [00:49:00] | Buckabooboob: | if you don't have any encoders on it :) |
| [00:50:00] | Buckabooboob: | really happy with that setup... for a diskless fontend.. |
| [00:50:00] | Leebier: | probably help if i reinitialized the driver and all |
| [00:50:00] | Buckabooboob: | Big |
| [00:50:00] | hyper\: | Buckabooboob: what kind of box are you using for you diskless front end? |
| [00:51:00] | Buckabooboob: | via M10K |
| [00:51:00] | hyper\: | ah how is the performance? |
| [00:51:00] | Buckabooboob: | Perfect |
| [00:51:00] | Buckabooboob: | Mpeg4 plays without framedrop |
| [00:51:00] | hyper\: | sweet |
| [00:52:00] | Buckabooboob: | some of the hardcore music visulizations will cause music stutter but thats it |
| [00:52:00] | hyper\: | how much ram you using with it? |
| [00:52:00] | Buckabooboob: | Havn't got any emu's on it yet |
| [00:52:00] | hyper\: | emus used to play fine on 200mhz boxes lol |
| [00:53:00] | Buckabooboob: | It shouldn't have a problem at all.. |
| [00:53:00] | Leebier: | still no audio |
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| [00:53:00] | Buckabooboob: | Still none? are there any msp3400's other than the link and the origonal? |
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| [00:54:00] | Leebier: | /lib/modules/2.6.10–1.770_14.rhfc3.at/kernel/drivers/media/video/msp3400.k o |
| [00:54:00] | Leebier: | /lib/modules/2.6.9–1.667/kernel/drivers/media/video/msp3400.ko |
| [00:54:00] | Leebier: | that's it |
| [00:55:00] | Buckabooboob: | sec |
| [00:56:00] | Buckabooboob: | oh... is /dev/dps linked to /dev/adsp? |
| [00:56:00] | Leebier: | um, no idea |
| [00:56:00] | Buckabooboob: | sorry |
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| [00:56:00] | Buckabooboob: | ls -al /dev/dsp |
| [00:57:00] | Leebier: | crw------- 1 mythtv root 14, 3 May 28 12:09 /dev/dsp |
| [00:57:00] | Buckabooboob: | No that shouldn't be it.. ivtv doesn't use that device. |
| [00:58:00] | Buckabooboob: | thinkin out loud here |
| [00:58:00] | Buckabooboob: | don't mind me |
| [00:58:00] | Leebier: | ok, i appreciate it though :) |
| [00:58:00] | Leebier: | not that i'm in here all that often, but i don't think i've ever seen old beirdo quiet for this long, he must be gone for the weekend |
| [00:58:00] | Buckabooboob: | I remember I had problems like that with my via.. |
| [01:01:00] | Buckabooboob: | You have audio for everything but anything to do with your pvr350 recording right? |
| [01:01:00] | iggy: | Leebier: he's gone to nashville for something |
| [01:01:00] | Leebier: | i have audio in xmms |
| [01:01:00] | alainm: | ok, whats everyones suggestions.. should i go the KnoppMyth route or Ubuntu + MythTV? |
| [01:01:00] | Leebier: | aha |
| [01:02:00] | Buckabooboob: | Whats your hardware ? |
| [01:03:00] | Ashlar: | alainm: if you're building a box to just do myth stuff, and you really don't need to tweak it, knoppmyth is usually the easiest, fastest route |
| [01:03:00] | alainm: | AMD 1800 1 gig RAM and a PVR-350 |
| [01:03:00] | Leebier: | i think i got it |
| [01:03:00] | Leebier: | a kmix issue |
| [01:03:00] | Leebier: | bah! |
| [01:03:00] | alainm: | yeh it's only going to be my PVR box |
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| [01:04:00] | alainm: | Ashlar: what version of KnoppMyth do you recomend, should i go with the latest |
| [01:05:00] | Ashlar: | well, I'm using A15.1, but 16 should be on the mirrors soon |
| [01:06:00] | alainm: | Ashlar: do you have any suggestions to make things go smooth? |
| [01:06:00] | Ashlar: | 15.1 has been rock solid, but 16 has mythtv 0.18.1 |
| [01:06:00] | Leebier: | ok, one more problem down |
| [01:06:00] | Leebier: | and i got my mysql database restored |
| [01:06:00] | Ashlar: | alainm: with those specs, it should be pretty straightforward.. |
| [01:07:00] | alainm: | Ashlar: now i have another videocard in there so that i can plug in a monitor, do you think that will cause issues? |
| [01:07:00] | Leebier: | ok, buckabooboob, know anything about getting X to output on the TV (lowest priority)? |
| [01:07:00] | Buckabooboob: | 15.1 is very solid.. |
| [01:07:00] | Leebier: | or why myth won't yet output to the TV |
| [01:08:00] | Ashlar: | no, shouldn't be a problen.. there's an X config file for doing pvr-350 out that you can swap in a moment |
| [01:08:00] | Buckabooboob: | You need to get X to use a driver that works with the pvr350 |
| [01:08:00] | Buckabooboob: | its got something to do with your XF86config-4.. can't remember :) |
| [01:09:00] | Buckabooboob: | You got your sound lee? |
| [01:10:00] | Ashlar: | there's a sample XF86Config-4 for tv out using a pvr-350.. straight forward |
| [01:10:00] | Leebier: | i think the sound is working |
| [01:11:00] | Buckabooboob: | alainm: Try knoppmyth and when you wanna start to customize it.. leave enough room for another rootFS so you can run knoppmyth and your costom sideby side :) |
| [01:11:00] | Leebier: | yeah, ashlar, i have it, and i change the PCI address to where my card is and the fb to the correct one |
| [01:11:00] | alainm: | thats true |
| [01:11:00] | alainm: | ok i am grabbing 15.1 now.. |
| [01:11:00] | Leebier: | and then when i try to start X on the tv, it dies and the log says it can't find fb0 |
| [01:11:00] | Buckabooboob: | I have found that very helpful for building a customizing my diskless fronend |
| [01:12:00] | Buckabooboob: | sec |
| [01:12:00] | Ashlar: | Leebier: check the knoppmyth foums, there's a very detailed post on what you need to do |
| [01:12:00] | Leebier: | even though i'm on FC3? |
| [01:13:00] | Ashlar: | ( I use a geforce4 in one box, and via epia in two others) |
| [01:13:00] | Ashlar: | well, in that case, you might want to check Jarrod's howto |
| [01:13:00] | Buckabooboob: | http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=H . . . Installation and look at step 5 |
| [01:13:00] | Ashlar: | sorry, thought you were on knoppmyth |
| [01:13:00] | Leebier: | yeah, i'm all over that file :) |
| [01:13:00] | Leebier: | i'd be nowhere w/o Jarrod |
| [01:13:00] | Buckabooboob: | How ya liking your epia's Ashlar? |
| [01:14:00] | Leebier: | but i'm using his baes file and it doesn't work |
| [01:14:00] | Ashlar: | nice.. especially with knoppmyth supporting em out of the box |
| [01:14:00] | Buckabooboob: | Eeeks... Try minimyth on em.... Much smoother |
| [01:14:00] | Buckabooboob: | Especially if you wanan do diskless |
| [01:15:00] | Buckabooboob: | Only pain is there are very few modules in the base distrib |
| [01:15:00] | Ashlar: | eh.. I have disks in em.. they're ancillary storage for music & videos |
| [01:15:00] | Buckabooboob: | Ahh |
| [01:16:00] | Buckabooboob: | Have 617G in my backend and room for 2 more drives still. |
| [01:17:00] | Ashlar: | heh.. 418 on the backend and another 160 between ancillary storage on the epias |
| [01:17:00] | Leebier: | bah, trying to watch a video on the mythbox froze thigns so hard that i can't use the terminal from my other pc |
| [01:17:00] | Buckabooboob: | I keep a 120G in my windows boxen to backup my don't wanna loose from my backend |
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| [01:32:00] | Leebier: | ok, everything is working except output to the TV |
| [01:32:00] | Leebier: | it's recording |
| [01:32:00] | Leebier: | and if i view on the monitor |
| [01:32:00] | Leebier: | the video comes out with sound |
| [01:33:00] | Leebier: | but if i check the "output with the pvr 350" box, the OSD comes up saying "Tuner 0" but no image and no channel info |
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| [01:33:00] | truls: | hiya |
| [01:35:00] | truls: | any suggestions as to a nice parameters for nuvexport when archiving shows? been using xvid vid VBR quality/quantization 3, resolution 384x288, bitrate 960, but I get a lot of compression artifacts... |
| [01:35:00] | truls: | so trying out most nuvexport settings |
| [01:36:00] | truls: | on a one minute recording |
| [01:36:00] | truls: | so what do other people use? |
| [01:36:00] | ** xris uses the defaults (then again, I made them) ** | |
| [01:37:00] | Leebier: | hey xris |
| [01:37:00] | truls: | xris: defaults for xvid? |
| [01:37:00] | xris: | actually, that's not entirely true.. I use multipass |
| [01:37:00] | xris: | truls: yes |
| [01:37:00] | xris: | if you get compression artifacts at those levels, the problem is in your source files. |
| [01:38:00] | xris: | I also use transcode, not ffmpeg. |
| [01:38:00] | xris: | I've found that transcode's xvid stuff produces cleaner results. |
| [01:38:00] | truls: | you dont have problems with transcode on some mpegs? |
| [01:38:00] | xris: | heh. I recently added an option to use mythtranscode even with transcode. |
| [01:38:00] | xris: | --force-mythtranscode |
| [01:39:00] | xris: | it should all be documented in the nuvexportrc file |
| [01:39:00] | truls: | remind me, what was mythtranscode? |
| [01:41:00] | xris: | mythtranscode is the part of myth that transcodes things internally (usually to mpeg4 nuv).. it also has a fifo mode that spits out raw audio/video. |
| [01:41:00] | truls: | ah, right |
| [01:41:00] | xris: | which is the only way that anything other than myth can access nuv files. |
| [01:42:00] | truls: | what framerate do you have on transcoding with ffmpeg using those settings? |
| [01:42:00] | truls: | for each pass |
| [01:42:00] | xris: | 6–8 fps average (with ffmpeg, the first pass is much faster) |
| [01:42:00] | xris: | wait, I have that backwards. with transcode, the first pass is faster. |
| [01:43:00] | xris: | I can't figure out how to tell ffmpeg NOT to encode the audio on the first pass. |
| [01:44:00] | Leebier: | anyone give me a hand editing the mythweb conf.php file? |
| [01:45:00] | Leebier: | actually, it looks like only one line that i need assistance with |
| [01:45:00] | xris: | which line? |
| [01:45:00] | truls: | ack, transcode messes everything up for me though |
| [01:45:00] | truls: | skips my mpegs |
| [01:45:00] | Leebier: | just the server domain line, i'm not sure which parts i'm supposed to be putting the backend's ip address in |
| [01:45:00] | xris: | skips? |
| [01:46:00] | xris: | did you follow the apache config stuff in the readme? |
| [01:46:00] | truls: | creates avi of size 2056 bytes |
| [01:46:00] | xris: | truls: force mythtranscode |
| [01:47:00] | truls: | guess i need a newer nuvexport |
| [01:47:00] | xris: | :) |
| [01:48:00] | truls: | xris: great, you have a trac-page! |
| [01:48:00] | xris: | always best to use the latest. I don't release them if they're not stable. |
| [01:48:00] | xris: | truls: I love trac |
| [01:48:00] | truls: | me too |
| [01:48:00] | truls: | any reason why you dont use versions? |
| [01:49:00] | truls: | for nuvexport i mean |
| [01:49:00] | Leebier: | xris- any help with that line? |
| [01:49:00] | xris: | Leebier: (17:45:51) xris: did you follow the apache config stuff in the readme? |
| [01:49:00] | truls: | hmm.. i guess you do (0.2) |
| [01:49:00] | xris: | truls: I don't like versions. too much thinking involved. |
| [01:50:00] | truls: | heh |
| [01:50:00] | truls: | just bump them |
| [01:50:00] | xris: | I just haven't had time to set that stuff up in trac yet. |
| [01:50:00] | Leebier: | i was hoping to avoid it... is it actually necessary? my router hasn't ever changed the IP address of the backend |
| [01:50:00] | xris: | been too busy working on my house. |
| [01:50:00] | truls: | now i have to move/rename old nuvexport downloads before getting the latest ;) |
| [01:50:00] | xris: | Leebier: has nothing to do with configuring a specific IP. There are instructions in there for how to get the auto-detection stuff (default config) working. |
| [01:51:00] | Leebier: | ahh |
| [01:51:00] | xris: | canonical name |
| [01:51:00] | Leebier: | then i probably should do it :) |
| [01:51:00] | xris: | that's why it's there. |
| [01:51:00] | xris: | it also helps for cookies, etc.. which you still sort of need. |
| [01:52:00] | Leebier: | so ServerName and UseCanonicalName |
| [01:53:00] | xris: | using dns is the best way... as long as you don't mind editing hosts files. |
| [01:53:00] | xris: | if you don't set servername, but turn on canonical names, it *should* just pass the IP through. |
| [01:53:00] | Leebier: | so i can leave the servername blank? this is an extremely simple home network |
| [01:53:00] | truls: | xris: cant find anything about force-mythtranscode in the latest release |
| [01:54:00] | xris: | truls: look in the included nuvexportrc file |
| [01:54:00] | xris: | sorry, it's _, not - |
| [01:54:00] | truls: | heh |
| [01:54:00] | Leebier: | well, not really blank but commented out |
| [01:55:00] | truls: | hmm, somethings wrong withthe install |
| [01:56:00] | truls: | make install doesnt place the nuvexportrc in /etc |
| [01:56:00] | truls: | i still have the old one there |
| [01:56:00] | truls: | i guess thats by design |
| [01:57:00] | truls: | (installing as .dist) |
| [01:57:00] | Buckabooboob: | cat: /dev/video1: Input/output error |
| [01:57:00] | Buckabooboob: | anyone seen this error before ? cat: /dev/video1: Input/output error |
| [01:57:00] | Leebier: | hmm, i've done somethign wrong as the web pages are just timing out |
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| [02:01:00] | truls: | xris: can i wishlist saving show info as a txt for generic saves, just as you do when exporting nuv? |
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| [02:07:00] | xris: | truls: submit a feature request |
| [02:07:00] | truls: | done |
| [02:07:00] | Leebier: | xris- any help with the apache file then? i feel rather dumb, but i'm missing SOMETHING |
| [02:08:00] | jemarcks: | xris, how do i remove and reinstall transcode/ffmpeg? |
| [02:08:00] | truls: | great work adding the force_mythtranscode |
| [02:08:00] | truls: | finally i can use transcode again (which is twice as fast as ffmpeg) |
| [02:08:00] | jemarcks: | transcode is broken for me |
| [02:08:00] | xris: | Leebier: if nothing else, you should just be able to put the server ip into server_domain setting. |
| [02:08:00] | jemarcks: | fresh install of FC3/myth 0.18 2 weeks ago |
| [02:09:00] | xris: | jemarcks: rpm -e ffmpeg transcode ? |
| [02:09:00] | xris: | truls: odd, ffmpeg has always been slightly faster for me (and *way* faster for encoding mpeg) |
| [02:09:00] | truls: | and it seems transcode gives me alot better quality too |
| [02:09:00] | xris: | truls: transcode is definitely better quality. |
| [02:09:00] | ** truls blames all his recent problems on using ffmpeg since last nuvexport download ;) ** | |
| [02:10:00] | jemarcks: | xris, will that break anything else? to replace it i do a apt-get install ffmpeg transcode? |
| [02:10:00] | xris: | to restore, yeah |
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| [02:11:00] | xris: | you might want to enable atrpms "testing" (or bleeding) before you restore.. just make sure you turn it off again when you're done. |
| [02:11:00] | amax: | anyone here has compiled ivtv 0.3.x on Debian? |
| [02:11:00] | truls: | now i just need to get my xvid-patches in again... (for description saving) |
| [02:12:00] | truls: | amax: not yet |
| [02:12:00] | jemarcks: | xris, i have tried nuvexport and after i installed it i get this error.... [mythtv@htpc1 ~]$ nuvexport |
| [02:12:00] | jemarcks: | Can't locate loadable object for module Time::HiRes in @INC (@INC contains: |
| [02:12:00] | amax: | truls: i got the package, but I cant compile without editing the makefile, and the instructions on the ivtv wiki are not correct |
| [02:13:00] | truls: | theres a package? |
| [02:13:00] | truls: | i.e. deb? |
| [02:13:00] | amax: | truls: well... not a debian package |
| [02:13:00] | amax: | a tgz ;) |
| [02:13:00] | truls: | ah |
| [02:13:00] | truls: | stuff like that is hell on debian... |
| [02:13:00] | truls: | i just want to apt-get install itvt |
| [02:14:00] | amax: | that would be awesome |
| [02:14:00] | truls: | but not that easy with kernel-stuff |
| [02:14:00] | Leebier: | ok, i have still done something wrong, bah |
| [02:14:00] | amax: | yep |
| [02:14:00] | truls: | shite... my earlier changes to nuvexport are gone |
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| [02:15:00] | Gumby`: | xris, I was told that you are the author of nuvexport. I have been trying to convert a recording from live tv (pvr-250) to xvid and I keep getting the error "Waiting for mythtranscode to set up the fifos." about 20 times and then it tells me "Waited too long for mythtranscode to create its fifos. Please try again." and drops me back to a prompt. Any ideas? |
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| [02:16:00] | Gumby`: | running nuvexport as user mythtv and that user has access to /tmp and also the location I am writing the final file to |
| [02:16:00] | xris: | Leebier: the easiest way to set things up is to follow the readme and set up a server name with a domain name.. if you don't have your own dns, etc., you can just add entries into your "hosts" file (every OS has one — a google search will tell you what to do).. then the default config and all cookie stuff, etc will work. |
| [02:17:00] | xris: | Gumby`: https://svn.forevermore.net/nuvexport/wiki/debug |
| [02:17:00] | Leebier: | cool, i shall look into that |
| [02:17:00] | Gumby`: | thx, I'll have a read |
| [02:19:00] | Gumby`: | xris: ... |
| [02:19:00] | Gumby`: | "File not found: 'frameno.avi' |
| [02:19:00] | Gumby`: | Failed to open frameno.avi |
| [02:19:00] | Gumby`: | Option lameopts: Unknown suboption bitrate" |
| [02:19:00] | xris: | Gumby`: most likely there's a config issue with mythtranscode.. if mythtranscode gives an error and you want to do me a favor, email me the error message so I can add a trap for it in nuvexport. |
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| [02:19:00] | xris: | Gumby`: from transcode, or mythtranscode? |
| [02:19:00] | Gumby`: | "/usr/bin/nice -n19 mencoder -aspect 4:3 -noskip -idx /tmp/fifodir_5999/vidout -audiofile /tmp/fifodir_5999/audout -rawvideo on:w=720:h=480:fps=29.97 -rawaudio on:rate=32000:channels=2 -ovc xvid -oac mp3lame -lameopts vbr=3:br=128:bitrate=1800" |
| [02:20:00] | xris: | Gumby`: try using something other than mencoder |
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| [02:25:00] | Gumby`: | k, not too efficient with this. where in nuvexport do I set what it should be using? |
| [02:29:00] | amax: | a question, im trying to compile the ivtv driver, but the wiki talks about a firmware... can anyone explain what this file is for? and where can I get it for the pvr-150? |
| [02:30:00] | Buckaboobob: | Its on the CD that came with the card |
| [02:30:00] | opello: | it should be on the cd (on my cd i had it for quite a few cards: 250 350 150 500) — there should be info on which file it is (i don't remember off hand) |
| [02:30:00] | Buckaboobob: | its the firmware... The load the firmware vis the software driver rather than store it on a flash rom on the card |
| [02:31:00] | amax: | opello, Buckaboobob thanks! |
| [02:31:00] | Buckaboobob: | Eeks.. I should try speaking english one day... someone might understand what I am sayin :) |
| [02:31:00] | opello: | lol |
| [02:36:00] | truls: | xris: is it possible to know the filename of the newly generated (or about to be generated) file in nuvexport main perl script within the "foreach my $episode ($episodes) {" loop? |
| [02:37:00] | truls: | xris: trying to make a patch.. usually i just fix a version that just works in transcode.pm, but thought i'd try to make it abit more generic |
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| [02:39:00] | Buckaboobob: | anyone know what -p option is the tuner (0) on a pvr500? |
| [02:40:00] | opello: | it should list them with another argument |
| [02:40:00] | Ashlar: | input |
| [02:40:00] | Ashlar: | umm.. |
| [02:41:00] | Ashlar: | try 5 |
| [02:41:00] | Buckaboobob: | -n was the option to view :) Thanks! |
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| [02:42:00] | opello: | np |
| [02:42:00] | sphing: | does myth has a bootup splash screen? |
| [02:42:00] | Buckaboobob: | dang that wasn't it either |
| [02:42:00] | amax: | grrr... i cant find the firmware for my pvr-150! :( |
| [02:42:00] | Ashlar: | sphing: for myth itself, or are you talking about a bootsplash theme? |
| [02:43:00] | Buckaboobob: | It has to be on your cd |
| [02:43:00] | amax: | Buckaboobob: im browsing it, but cant find it... is it inside a zip / exe file? |
| [02:44:00] | Leebier: | ok, i've gotten php itself working, i can get to the apache test page |
| [02:44:00] | Leebier: | bbut all of the mythweb pages aren't loading |
| [02:44:00] | Buckaboobob: | Sec |
| [02:44:00] | Ashlar: | amax: yah, it's usually inside the driver |
| [02:44:00] | Ashlar: | ivtvfwextract.pl extracts it from the driver executable |
| [02:44:00] | Leebier: | wait, i may have found my problems |
| [02:45:00] | Baylink: | QUERY: Don't "Start Early" and "End Late" *lose* to collisions? |
| [02:45:00] | amax: | Ashlar: mmm,.... i got the latest driver from hauppauge's site, but the .pl file cant extract / find it |
| [02:45:00] | amax: | >:| |
| [02:46:00] | Ashlar: | hrmmm.. might need a newer version of ivtvfwextract, or an older version of the driver.. I know they have to match to get the offset right |
| [02:47:00] | amax: | Ashlar: i see a link on the ivtv wiki... im d/l that one! |
| [02:47:00] | amax: | it has three stars on it,... i will cross my fingers. |
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| [02:47:00] | Buckaboobob: | \WinTV-PVR-150500MCE_2.0.18.22316_WHQL_signed |
| [02:47:00] | alainm: | Ashlar: ok, so i got 15.1 installed.. |
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| [02:48:00] | Ashlar: | sphing: I made a GANT bootsplash theme, integrates nicely if you're using the GANT myth theme |
| [02:48:00] | alainm: | Ashlar: now what |
| [02:48:00] | BlastM: | gahh! dvb + mythtv is killing me! |
| [02:48:00] | Ashlar: | alainm: lol, it should walk you rhrough setting up myth |
| [02:48:00] | bigslam: | hmm |
| [02:49:00] | abarbaccia: | I have to say ubuntu is the easiest system to set myth up on i've ever experienced! |
| [02:49:00] | amax: | Buckaboobob: wassat? |
| [02:49:00] | bigslam: | BlastM u have dvb card? |
| [02:49:00] | BlastM: | yeap |
| [02:49:00] | alainm: | Ashlar: yeh.. i ran thru all that setup.. i don't see anything on my TV only black |
| [02:49:00] | BlastM: | 2005-05–29 11:44:54.945 DVB#0 ERROR – No PIDS set, please correct your channel setup. |
| [02:49:00] | bigslam: | what kind? |
| [02:49:00] | rjune: | BlastM: don't feel bad, I'm going nutz with the db and mythgame |
| [02:49:00] | Gumby`: | anyone have an idea what might cause this using transcode in nuvexport. "(aud_aux.c) Error: Lame encoding error: (-3: lame_init_params() not called)" |
| [02:49:00] | BlastM: | thing is, i went into the database with phpmyadmin and set up all the PIDs in there |
| [02:49:00] | abarbaccia: | Gumby`, do you have liblame installed? |
| [02:49:00] | Gumby`: | google returns nothing unfortunately |
| [02:49:00] | bigslam: | why whats up rjune? |
| [02:49:00] | Gumby`: | abarbaccia: yep |
| [02:49:00] | bigslam: | use Webmin |
| [02:49:00] | bigslam: | has alot of nice shit |
| [02:49:00] | Ashlar: | alainm: ahh. you'll need to swap out the XF86Config-4 with the sample one that has pvr-350 and enable that in mythtv |
| [02:50:00] | BlastM: | the card works with mplayer, xine fine. it's a dvico fusion hdtv plus |
| [02:50:00] | alainm: | Ashlar: how do i do that? |
| [02:50:00] | rjune: | bigslam: two things. I got some Full Metal Alchemist. I wanted a plot in mythvideo, so I went to the db and did 'update videometadata set plot = 'a boy and his armor' where category = 5' |
| [02:51:00] | BlastM: | does anyone know where in the myth database it keeps the default channel it tunes to when you first go to "watch tv"? cause i think it's trying to tune to a non-existant channel |
| [02:51:00] | rjune: | bigslam: when I go into mythvideo, it still shows None in the plot |
| [02:51:00] | bigslam: | hmm rjune dont know about that:/ |
| [02:51:00] | Ashlar: | alainm: back up your existing config (cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.backup) and then copy the other one from that directory over the original |
| [02:51:00] | rjune: | bigslam: then mythgame keeps telling me that my version of xmame is incompatible with myth |
| [02:51:00] | alainm: | Ashlar: perfect.. let me go try that |
| [02:52:00] | Ashlar: | BlastM: go into mythtv-setup, input connections.. something like 'pre-tune to this channel' |
| [02:52:00] | Buckaboobob: | BlastM its in mythtv-setup under the capture card settings |
| [02:54:00] | BlastM: | ok will do |
| [02:54:00] | BlastM: | here's my db |
| [02:55:00] | BlastM: | 1000 401 v |
| [02:55:00] | BlastM: | 1000 402 a |
| [02:55:00] | BlastM: | that's from dvb_pids |
| [02:56:00] | bigslam: | what kinda dvb card do u have anyways? |
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| [02:56:00] | BlastM: | the card works with mplayer, xine fine. it's a dvico fusion hdtv plus |
| [02:56:00] | bigslam: | no no what kinda dvb card... |
| [02:57:00] | bigslam: | model make |
| [02:57:00] | rjune: | bigslam: no clue on the mythgame either eh? |
| [02:57:00] | Buckaboobob: | LOL... Thats just plain cool... my diskless frontend playing music.. Just "Pauses" while i reboot the backend thats holding the files.. Music picks up where it left off before reboot. |
| [02:57:00] | bigslam: | hmm one min rjune |
| [02:57:00] | rjune: | no worries |
| [02:57:00] | BlastM: | bigslam: does it really matter? it works |
| [02:58:00] | bigslam: | yes |
| [02:58:00] | bigslam: | because ive got a dvb card:P |
| [02:58:00] | bigslam: | just want to see what kinda u have |
| [02:58:00] | BlastM: | i think it uses a connexant cx88 chipset |
| [02:58:00] | bigslam: | ive got a Nexus-S |
| [02:58:00] | BlastM: | and a Z-something tuner |
| [02:58:00] | alainm: | Ashlar: ok.. did that and rebooted.. X failed to start, gave me the error No Screen Found |
| [02:58:00] | BlastM: | it's a terrestrial dvb card (i'm in australia) |
| [02:59:00] | Leebier: | alright, got mythweb going! |
| [03:00:00] | Ashlar: | alainm: let me take a peek at the sameple file.. if I don't find anything, I know there's a pretty detailed post on the knoppmyth forums for it |
| [03:00:00] | rjune: | Leebier: yay! |
| [03:00:00] | BlastM: | 2005-05–29 12:00:06.495 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV |
| [03:00:00] | BlastM: | 2005-05–29 12:00:06.505 DVB#0 Recorder: Card opened successfully (using PS mode). |
| [03:00:00] | BlastM: | 2005-05–29 12:00:06.505 DVB#0 ERROR – No PIDS set, please correct your channel setup. |
| [03:00:00] | Leebier: | just two problems left to fix, and they will NOT be fun |
| [03:00:00] | BlastM: | 2005-05–29 12:00:07.506 DVB#0 WARNING – No data from card in 1 second. |
| [03:00:00] | BlastM: | 2005-05–29 12:00:08.507 DVB#0 WARNING – No data from card in 1 second. |
| [03:00:00] | BlastM: | etc |
| [03:00:00] | rjune: | Leebier: which two? |
| [03:00:00] | opello: | wow, how'd you get such verbose logs? |
| [03:00:00] | opello: | i don't usually even get timestamps |
| [03:01:00] | BlastM: | that's just mythbackend standard out |
| [03:01:00] | Leebier: | 1) outputting shows to my TV is not working, i get the OSD saying "tuner 0" but no show info or actual video, i can output to the monitor just fine |
| [03:01:00] | BlastM: | i'm running it not as a daemon |
| [03:01:00] | Leebier: | 2) relatedly, getting X to run correctly on the TV so i can ditch the monitor |
| [03:01:00] | opello: | ah |
| [03:02:00] | bigslam: | sorry rjune i dont know |
| [03:02:00] | rjune: | bigslam: no worries |
| [03:02:00] | bigslam: | maybe u can do a better job in searching http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/ |
| [03:03:00] | Roots^ (Mani@cpc1-with2-5-0-cust26.bagu.cable.ntl.com) Quit ("Its all fun and games until someone loses a Hymen.") | |
| [03:04:00] | Ashlar: | alainm: the sample file looks good to me (but then again, I don't have a pvr-350).. so I'd suggest http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4557 |
| [03:04:00] | amax: | aha! found the roms! |
| [03:04:00] | alainm: | Ashlar: oh really.. damn.. ok.. let me have a look at the forum |
| [03:07:00] | abarbaccia: | does a dvb card use highdef signals? |
| [03:08:00] | Buckaboobob: | highdef isn't a signal type |
| [03:09:00] | abarbaccia: | you know what i mean |
| [03:09:00] | Buckaboobob: | highdef is a resoultion.. |
| [03:09:00] | abarbaccia: | is it for recording HDTV |
| [03:09:00] | abarbaccia: | is it for recording signals at HDTV QUALITy? |
| [03:09:00] | opello: | lol, high def is a marketing blurb |
| [03:09:00] | abarbaccia: | damn technicallities- can someone say yes or no?! |
| [03:09:00] | Buckaboobob: | It would depend if that card would accept the bitrate and resolution of the DVB stream |
| [03:09:00] | opello: | i don't know what dvb is, but if someone is correcting incorrectly ... that's just wrong :) |
| [03:10:00] | Buckaboobob: | DVB ... Digital Video Broadcast standard |
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| [03:11:00] | abarbaccia: | okay so if i had a highdef quality signal coming in from my cable line and i used this card would it be at 1080 lines? |
| [03:11:00] | abarbaccia: | or 480 |
| [03:11:00] | Buckaboobob: | I would think DVB card would grab Highdef out... unless they reject the MPG stream for what ever reason the manufaturer wants to give. |
| [03:11:00] | Buckaboobob: | It would have to be a DVB signal.. |
| [03:11:00] | abarbaccia: | better question – what is a dvb card intended for |
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| [03:12:00] | Buckaboobob: | Analogue is dying.. DVB is it replacement. |
| [03:12:00] | abarbaccia: | and thats where we get high def tv from correct |
| [03:13:00] | Buckaboobob: | Every TV out there right now like Analouge signals... when they turn off Analouge you will need a DVB compliant TV or a DVB compliant settop box to grab the video/audio off the cable ect.. |
| [03:13:00] | Buckaboobob: | HIGH Def is just a Video Format |
| [03:14:00] | Buckaboobob: | Its kinda like a 96KB Mp3 vs a 320KB Mp3 |
| [03:14:00] | Baylink is now known as Wazootyman | |
| [03:14:00] | Buckaboobob: | 96kb mp3 being what your used to seeing and 320kb mp3 being high definition. |
| [03:14:00] | Wazootyman is now known as Baylink | |
| [03:14:00] | Buckaboobob: | Does that make sence to you? |
| [03:15:00] | Buckaboobob: | I am not tryiung to correct ya for the hell of it... I am trying to stop a misnomer that everyone has :) |
| [03:16:00] | Buckaboobob: | DVB is just a method of transport. |
| [03:16:00] | bigslam: | one of many:) |
| [03:16:00] | Buckaboobob: | Yup |
| [03:19:00] | Buckaboobob: | Holy crap.. finally got my 500 workin... I thought I was gonna bleed to death bangin my head against a brick wall |
| [03:19:00] | opello: | heh, what'd it take? |
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| [03:19:00] | Buckaboobob: | And Illusion.... didn't cat the right video device.. It doesn't work |
| [03:19:00] | Buckaboobob: | *CRY* |
| [03:20:00] | opello: | aw |
| [03:20:00] | Buckaboobob: | crap |
| [03:20:00] | bigslam: | lol |
| [03:20:00] | ** bigslam points to the wall ** | |
| [03:20:00] | Buckaboobob: | I was all excited when I didn't get an error... I better order a few more pints of blood |
| [03:21:00] | opello: | heh |
| [03:21:00] | Gumby: | gah, figured it out. I had an audio bitrate of 196 instead of 192 |
| [03:23:00] | Leebier: | alright, i think i'll worry about getting the output tomorrow |
| [03:23:00] | Leebier: | thanks for everyone's help over the last 12 hours |
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| [03:29:00] | alainm: | how do i find what dev my PVR 350 is on? |
| [03:31:00] | Ashlar: | lspci -v |
| [03:31:00] | Ashlar: | or did you mean which /dev/videox ? |
| [03:32:00] | alainm: | no what /dev/fb |
| [03:32:00] | Ashlar: | check dmesg |
| [03:32:00] | Ashlar: | maybe try grep ivtvfb |
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| [03:34:00] | alainm: | hmm |
| [03:35:00] | alainm: | i'm not sure how to read this |
| [03:37:00] | Ashlar: | well, copy / paste it to http://pastebin.ca |
| [03:37:00] | Ashlar: | dmesg | grep ivtv |
| [03:37:00] | alainm: | i'm actually on 2 separate boxex |
| [03:37:00] | alainm: | boxes |
| [03:37:00] | alainm: | :) |
| [03:38:00] | Ashlar: | ahh |
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| [03:38:00] | alainm: | 0000:00:0f.0 |
| [03:38:00] | alainm: | thats what it shows |
| [03:39:00] | alainm: | what should i be looking for |
| [03:40:00] | Ashlar: | well, from that post, looks like you need two things.. the PCI BusID and the /dev/fbX |
| [03:40:00] | alainm: | so i know the BusID |
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| [03:42:00] | Ashlar: | hrmm.. with a pvr-250 I get a line in dmesg like 'registered new video device with major 82, minor 0'.. the 0 means /dev/video0 |
| [03:42:00] | Ashlar: | dmesg | grep ivtvfb .. does that return anything |
| [03:42:00] | Ashlar: | ? |
| [03:43:00] | Ashlar: | or ivtv-fb even |
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| [03:45:00] | alainm: | both don't return anything |
| [03:45:00] | Ashlar: | well, see if the module is loaded.. lsmod | grep ivtv |
| [03:46:00] | Ashlar: | if you followed that post, ivtv-fb should be loaded |
| [03:46:00] | alainm: | yes it's there |
| [03:46:00] | alainm: | not ivtv-fb |
| [03:46:00] | alainm: | just ivtv |
| [03:46:00] | Ashlar: | ahh |
| [03:46:00] | Ashlar: | so try modprobing it |
| [03:47:00] | Ashlar: | jsut out of curiosity |
| [03:47:00] | alainm: | that did it |
| [03:47:00] | alainm: | loaded it up |
| [03:47:00] | Ashlar: | coo... now check dmesg |
| [03:47:00] | alainm: | fb1 |
| [03:47:00] | Ashlar: | should be at the bottom of it |
| [03:47:00] | Ashlar: | coo |
| [03:49:00] | alainm: | now i don't think my busid is right |
| [03:50:00] | Ashlar: | lspci -v should list it |
| [03:50:00] | alainm: | so do i just put in that number from before |
| [03:51:00] | alainm: | 0000:00:0f.0 |
| [03:52:00] | Buckaboobob: | Ha! 1 out of 2 tuners is workin |
| [03:52:00] | opello: | Buckaboobob: odd that jsut 1 would? |
| [03:52:00] | Ashlar: | so PCI:00:16:0 |
| [03:52:00] | Buckaboobob: | Its a big upgrade from 0 |
| [03:52:00] | Buckaboobob: | \ |
| [03:53:00] | Buckaboobob: | I think i know whats up with the other tuner |
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| [03:54:00] | Buckaboobob: | Will see soon |
| [03:54:00] | rjune: | good luck |
| [03:54:00] | Buckaboobob: | Whats crappy is I need to manullay reload the ivtv driversafter boot |
| [03:54:00] | bigslam: | anyone have a 3sec mpeg sample file then can send me? |
| [03:54:00] | Buckaboobob: | They must be getting loaded at the wrong time. |
| [03:54:00] | rjune: | Buckaboobob: put it in /etc/rc.d/rc.local |
| [03:54:00] | rjune: | or wherever your rc.local script is |
| [03:55:00] | Buckaboobob: | Yup.. Just checking to see if both tuners are going to work |
| [03:56:00] | Buckaboobob: | I hope they are.. this is cutting into my WOW time :) |
| [03:56:00] | alainm: | so close.. but still the GDM won't start |
| [03:56:00] | alainm: | no screen found :( |
| [03:57:00] | Ashlar: | X still complaining about no valid scr.. k |
| [03:57:00] | alainm: | yes.. but when i look at the error |
| [03:57:00] | alainm: | it's saying bus id 15 and not 16 |
| [03:58:00] | Ashlar: | ahh.. well, you could change the busid to :0x0f:0 without the 'PCI:' in front of it |
| [04:00:00] | alainm: | same error |
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| [04:01:00] | Ashlar: | hrmm.. well I'm stumped.. search the forum, there are other posts on getting a 350 tvout to work |
| [04:02:00] | alainm: | oh noo.. |
| [04:05:00] | alainm: | thank you so much for all your help |
| [04:05:00] | Ashlar: | np, wish I could help more |
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| [04:07:00] | Buckaboobob: | Crap.. Only 1 tuner workin |
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| [04:12:00] | rjune: | Buckaboobob: bummer |
| [04:12:00] | rjune: | Buckaboobob: if it makes you feel better, my backend doesn't have any tuners working |
| [04:12:00] | rjune: | though that's mostly because I've not moved it to the new backend |
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| [04:18:00] | Buckaboobob: | hehe... Its really odd my 350 works fine (Not using video out on it :) ) and only the second tuner is working on my 500 |
| [04:19:00] | Buckaboobob: | Might toss it into my windows boxen tommorow to see if its a defect or something. |
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| [04:19:00] | rjune: | Buckaboobob: it could be |
| [04:19:00] | Buckaboobob: | Can't see how they both arn't workin unless its a ivtv issue |
| [04:20:00] | alainm: | Ashlar: yeh it's something to do with that BusId |
| [04:20:00] | Buckaboobob: | well I am off for the night... Tanks all and good luck! |
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| [04:50:00] | monolith: | could someone please paste their dvd ripper settings for xine in myth? |
| [04:51:00] | monolith: | i am able to transcode through the term |
| [04:51:00] | monolith: | but am having problems in myth |
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| [05:11:00] | alainm: | anyone familiar with Bus ID issues? |
| [05:14:00] | gnarface: | video card bus id's? |
| [05:14:00] | gnarface: | easy fix |
| [05:14:00] | gnarface: | find the bus id line for xorg.conf/xfree86.conf (whichever you're using) and then get the bus id's to match each video card from lspci or /proc/pci |
| [05:21:00] | alainm: | yes |
| [05:22:00] | alainm: | gnarface: ok.. i think what my problem is that i don't have the correct BusID in my XF86 config |
| [05:25:00] | alainm: | are you still there? |
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| [05:42:00] | gnarface: | sorry, wandered away |
| [05:42:00] | gnarface: | you have two video cards right? |
| [05:42:00] | gnarface: | and its freaking out because its guessing the wrong one in your configs? |
| [05:42:00] | gnarface: | i'm just presuming this based on your initial comment. |
| [05:42:00] | gnarface: | fixing bus id's is easy. just find out what the real bus id is and put it in your X config |
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| [05:52:00] | alainm: | gnarface: i think i did that correctly |
| [05:52:00] | alainm: | it's still complaining |
| [05:52:00] | alainm: | No device |
| [05:53:00] | alainm: | No screen |
| [05:54:00] | alainm: | i think it will be working after we figure out this part |
| [05:54:00] | alainm: | all i see on my tv is while and black lines |
| [06:01:00] | JeepJerk: | anyone know where I can get mplex? |
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| [06:04:00] | alainm: | no sorry |
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| [06:26:00] | cortezdapimp: | hi everyone |
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| [06:27:00] | cortezdapimp: | if i use a .18.1 frontend with a .18 backend is it going to fuck shit up? (maybe start a fuckin' riot) |
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| [06:28:00] | opello: | why not just update both? |
| [06:29:00] | JeepJerk: | well there's a problem there |
| [06:29:00] | JeepJerk: | they use different versions of the protocol |
| [06:29:00] | JeepJerk: | which are not compatible |
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| [06:31:00] | JeepJerk: | so cortez you can't fo it |
| [06:31:00] | JeepJerk: | s/fo/do/ |
| [06:31:00] | cortezdapimp: | because my backend is on knoppmyth and i'm not so sure about updating it yet... i usually wait till cecil gives the go-ahead, but i couldn't get .18 frontend to compile on os-x tiger |
| [06:32:00] | cortezdapimp: | does that make sense? |
| [06:32:00] | JeepJerk: | well, if you're using knoppmyth I'd wait |
| [06:33:00] | cortezdapimp: | one thing i don't understnad is why connecting different versions of a frontend to a backend can totally hose the backend. |
| [06:33:00] | JeepJerk: | it can be upgraded but I broke it once |
| [06:33:00] | JeepJerk: | because they change the protocol version and they don't make them compatible |
| [06:33:00] | JeepJerk: | so they don't know how to talk to one another |
| [06:33:00] | cortezdapimp: | right but the frontend totally hoses the backend database |
| [06:34:00] | cortezdapimp: | isn't there a way to gracefully fail? |
| [06:34:00] | JeepJerk: | ! |
| [06:34:00] | JeepJerk: | whats the frontend trying to do? |
| [06:35:00] | JeepJerk: | well then each version usully has a schema update to the database as well and the older version won't be expecting it |
| [06:35:00] | JeepJerk: | so that could cause database problems |
| [06:35:00] | cortezdapimp: | its not trying anything in praticular, but why does the frontend initiate the schema update? |
| [06:36:00] | cortezdapimp: | shouldn't it just say that there was an error, you are using a different version blah blah blah without actually changing it.. |
| [06:36:00] | JeepJerk: | because the backend doesn't know what plugins to update |
| [06:36:00] | JeepJerk: | yes |
| [06:36:00] | JeepJerk: | when you try to connect it should say that they are using different protocol versions and then stop |
| [06:37:00] | cortezdapimp: | shouldn't the frontend just do the plugin updates then? |
| [06:37:00] | cortezdapimp: | wish i had time to help development. |
| [06:37:00] | JeepJerk: | me too |
| [06:38:00] | JeepJerk: | all I have time to fix is what doesn't work that I use everyday |
| [06:39:00] | JeepJerk: | so just to recap connecting to a .18 backend with .18.1 frontend shouldn't corrupt the database |
| [06:39:00] | JeepJerk: | but it WILL fail |
| [06:40:00] | JeepJerk: | well thats the end of this night |
| [06:40:00] | JeepJerk: | later |
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| [06:43:00] | cortezdapimp: | oh well. thanks |
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| [06:52:00] | gnarface: | damnit. anyone know of an easy work-around to get mythmusic 0.18.1 to compile in gentoo? |
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| [07:57:00] | MajestiK: | I've got a weird problem.. all of my tv listings seem to be shifted or something, so all the recordings are wrong.. |
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| [07:59:00] | maddhaggis: | Hello all |
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| [08:10:00] | Qwertys: | i keep getting mythtv crashing and gives the error: 2005-05–29 00:04:03.854 Timed out waiting for free video buffers. |
| [08:11:00] | Qwertys: | this is on gentoo with a PVR250 |
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| [08:24:00] | BlastM: | MajestiK: check xmltv time offset |
| [08:24:00] | BlastM: | i think it's in general in mythsetup |
| [08:26:00] | BlastM: | and also check your system time is accurate |
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| [08:42:00] | j-rod: | and also let us know if you happen to be running something earlier than 0.18... |
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| [09:12:00] | Qwertys: | It works! haha, it works! |
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| [09:12:00] | Qwertys: | on the gentoo wiki site there was a myth tv tutorial... |
| [09:13:00] | Qwertys: | it was the nvidia driver |
| [09:13:00] | Qwertys: | i skipped the step to edit xorg.conf to #Load "dri" |
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| [09:26:00] | Qwertys: | ok, display works now, but no channels, only static. even on a good cable connection... |
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| [10:41:00] | iver: | is the pvr 150's picture as good as the 250/350's? |
| [10:44:00] | adante: | gentoo users – why does xorg-x11–6.8 block mythtv 18.1-r1? |
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| [10:47:00] | Cardoe: | adante: what? |
| [10:47:00] | Cardoe: | adante: oh |
| [10:47:00] | Cardoe: | any version older then 6.8 |
| [10:47:00] | Cardoe: | Cause I got annoyed with all the stupid bugs. |
| [10:48:00] | adante: | fair enough |
| [10:48:00] | adante: | were these bugs present in 18.0? |
| [10:48:00] | adante: | as in for xorg 6.8 vs mythtv 18.0 |
| [10:49:00] | Cardoe: | just things compiled weird |
| [10:49:00] | Cardoe: | so I added a dep. |
| [10:49:00] | adante: | fair enough |
| [10:50:00] | Qwertys: | is there a way to change module options without rebooting the system? |
| [10:50:00] | Qwertys: | i need to go through the tuner types in ivtv to find out which my card is |
| [10:51:00] | Cardoe: | rmmod |
| [10:51:00] | Cardoe: | edit stuff |
| [10:52:00] | Cardoe: | update-modules |
| [10:52:00] | Cardoe: | modprobe |
| [10:52:00] | Qwertys: | ok thanks |
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| [10:54:00] | Qwertys: | hmm, ok, on the pvr250, what chip am i looking for the tuner |
| [10:56:00] | Qwertys: | i found some documentation and it says to check under a chip. but i'm not sure which... |
| [10:58:00] | Qwertys: | and it says ivtv is in use, even after a reboot. :( |
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| [11:22:00] | yakman: | hi, anyone fancey helping me with a cron problem pls? |
| [11:24:00] | yakman: | i can execute mythfilldatabase fromthe shell and also the mythfilldatabasecron – sucessfully |
| [11:24:00] | yakman: | but when i try and execute either from the crontab entry I get an error |
| [11:25:00] | yakman: | I have looked at ecporting environment variables, but I don't understand wht it is I am doing, nor can I find a guide on the net that is easy to follow |
| [11:25:00] | yakman: | I have set up sym links from the users home dir to the /root dir for mythtv and xmltv |
| [11:26:00] | yakman: | so i can execute the scripts as either the user or root in the shell |
| [11:26:00] | yakman: | any help warmly welcomed |
| [11:28:00] | Qwertys: | so what is going on? whats the error cron gives? |
| [11:30:00] | yakman: | well mythtv reports in the status 'xmltv returned error code 2' |
| [11:30:00] | yakman: | or xmltv returned error code 6580 |
| [11:30:00] | yakman: | that last number may not be exactly right – sorry cant remember exactly |
| [11:30:00] | Qwertys: | heh, thats pretty vague |
| [11:31:00] | Qwertys: | did you try to google it? |
| [11:31:00] | yakman: | is there a place i can find a cron log? |
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| [11:31:00] | yakman: | oh yes |
| [11:31:00] | yakman: | nothing |
| [11:31:00] | iver: | . /var/log/cron or something |
| [11:31:00] | iver: | withouth the dot (.) |
| [11:31:00] | yakman: | ok ty i'll take a looksee |
| [11:31:00] | yakman: | k |
| [11:32:00] | iver: | i got some questions regaring mythtv |
| [11:33:00] | iver: | if i install a pvr150 card in my future 1ghz p3 w/2gb ram server |
| [11:34:00] | iver: | would i be able to watch livetv on the clients, or just on the machine running the backend? |
| [11:34:00] | laga: | on the clients and on the backend :) |
| [11:34:00] | iver: | great! |
| [11:34:00] | iver: | what if i have many clients |
| [11:34:00] | Qwertys: | yea, the point of ivtv is it can serve to other clients |
| [11:34:00] | iver: | would they all be able to watch livetv? |
| [11:34:00] | Qwertys: | err mythtv |
| [11:34:00] | laga: | however, you can only watch on one client (server is a client, too) because you only have one card :) |
| [11:34:00] | iver: | ofcourse the same channel |
| [11:35:00] | Qwertys: | only the same channel |
| [11:35:00] | laga: | nope. |
| [11:35:00] | iver: | so only one client could watch livetv, is that right? |
| [11:35:00] | laga: | only *one* client per card. |
| [11:35:00] | iver: | ow |
| [11:35:00] | iver: | ok |
| [11:36:00] | laga: | of course, you could always watch your recordings :) |
| [11:36:00] | iver: | yeah |
| [11:36:00] | iver: | thats true :p |
| [11:36:00] | iver: | what about the hardware of my servern then |
| [11:36:00] | iver: | its a p3 1ghz with 2gb sdram |
| [11:36:00] | iver: | and a lot of harddrives ofcourse |
| [11:37:00] | iver: | would it be able to host a couple of streams |
| [11:37:00] | iver: | and record..at the same time? |
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| [11:38:00] | Qwertys: | it'll take a lot of bandwidth |
| [11:38:00] | iver: | ill propably get a gigabit switch soon |
| [11:38:00] | Qwertys: | and for recording, i would recommend a card with a hardware encoder |
| [11:39:00] | Qwertys: | and lots of ram. |
| [11:39:00] | iver: | yeah, im going to use the pvr150..i thing |
| [11:39:00] | iver: | think* |
| [11:43:00] | Qwertys: | i can't rmmod ivtv... its in use... |
| [11:43:00] | yakman: | are you using the frame buffer as well? |
| [11:44:00] | yakman: | ivtv_fb |
| [11:44:00] | Qwertys: | no, its a 250, no FB |
| [11:44:00] | yakman: | reboot then, thats the easy way |
| [11:45:00] | Qwertys: | hehe, sure, i'll just need to reboot 45+ times to go through all the tuners until i find one that works... |
| [11:46:00] | yakman: | you have 45 tuners ? |
| [11:46:00] | yakman: | you can use a util to select the input without unloadiing ivtv i think |
| [11:46:00] | Qwertys: | no but i cant find the right tuner chip setup |
| [11:46:00] | Qwertys: | not input |
| [11:46:00] | Qwertys: | tuner |
| [11:46:00] | Qwertys: | its not working, all i get is static |
| [11:47:00] | Qwertys: | its a 5 year old card too... |
| [11:47:00] | yakman: | cant help you there sorry – i use component vidoe in – no tuner |
| [11:49:00] | Qwertys: | component? like hdtv? |
| [11:50:00] | Qwertys: | or composite |
| [11:50:00] | yakman: | the latter |
| [11:50:00] | yakman: | its scart out to the svideo in |
| [11:50:00] | Qwertys: | oh |
| [11:51:00] | yakman: | channel crontrol is thoough the ir blaster |
| [11:51:00] | Qwertys: | did you make the connector yourself? |
| [11:52:00] | yakman: | nope, i went to a local cable maker and he made it for me |
| [11:52:00] | yakman: | cost me £5 |
| [11:52:00] | yakman: | bargain |
| [11:52:00] | Qwertys: | i mean the ir blaster |
| [11:52:00] | yakman: | yas |
| [11:52:00] | yakman: | i made that |
| [11:52:00] | Qwertys: | cool. |
| [11:52:00] | yakman: | using the guide from the net |
| [11:53:00] | Qwertys: | i've been looking into a setup like that because most hdtv tuners dont decode cable |
| [11:53:00] | yakman: | its fairly easy to set up once tou have the kernel sources set up |
| [11:54:00] | yakman: | and you can buy the ir blaster hardware as cheaply as you can make it |
| [11:54:00] | yakman: | i'll make another one to control my 2nd cable tv stb and pipe that into a 2nd bbtv capture card when i get round to it |
| [11:56:00] | Qwertys: | nice. |
| [11:56:00] | Qwertys: | i just want to get mine working again. i had it working before but my HD crashed... |
| [11:56:00] | yakman: | dang :( |
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| [11:57:00] | yakman^bbl: | well i have to get on with the decorating :( |
| [12:06:00] | Qwertys: | this failed to load module tuner message doesnt mean anything for ivtv 2.0 does it? |
| [12:06:00] | Qwertys: | and kernel 2.6 |
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| [12:33:00] | davred: | anyone having problems with sound using DVB-T card? |
| [12:35:00] | Spida: | hm, anybody got a clue where the ivtv guys got there webserver now? that is, th -ck one... |
| [12:36:00] | laga: | ivtv.tv |
| [12:36:00] | laga: | http://ivtv.tv |
| [12:36:00] | adante: | davred: what sort of problems? |
| [12:37:00] | davred: | adante, i'll be watching channel 10, switch to 9 and i get no sound |
| [12:37:00] | davred: | adante, chan 2 and 10 have sound, 9 doesn't |
| [12:37:00] | adante: | hmm can't say I do, 9 works fine for me |
| [12:37:00] | Spida: | thx laga |
| [12:38:00] | laga: | Spida: np :) |
| [12:38:00] | davred: | adante, i had 9 working if it were the first channel i start with |
| [12:39:00] | adante: | davred: hm, odd |
| [12:39:00] | davred: | adante, if I go back to the main menu, then Watch TV again, 9 will work... |
| [12:39:00] | adante: | thats quite baffling |
| [12:39:00] | davred: | extremely :) |
| [12:39:00] | brejc8: | Have you guys had a look at this?: http://brej.org/mythtv/recommendations/program_listing.php.htm |
| [12:40:00] | davred: | adante, haven't looked at logs yet |
| [12:40:00] | adante: | davred: i know when i get reception problems (damaged frame), the sound will die for me |
| [12:40:00] | davred: | adante, i got good reception here |
| [12:40:00] | adante: | i have to change channels to get it working |
| [12:40:00] | adante: | (this is 18.0 btw, i'm actually in the process of upgrading as we speak) |
| [12:41:00] | adante: | well, i guess best check and see if the logs say anything |
| [12:41:00] | adante: | did you autoscan the channels? |
| [12:41:00] | davred: | adante, ow... it only just started when I went to 0.18-r4 |
| [12:41:00] | davred: | yeah, autoscanned |
| [12:43:00] | adante: | brejc8: hot damn you get a lot of channels |
| [12:43:00] | adante: | guess you guys do pay tv tax however :] |
| [12:43:00] | brejc8: | What do you think of the recommendation things? |
| [12:43:00] | brejc8: | The tax is well worth it |
| [12:44:00] | brejc8: | Hover over the links for a review by other sites |
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| [12:45:00] | davred: | adante, how far away you from upgrade? |
| [12:45:00] | adante: | brejc8: sorry you'll have to give me more specific instructions, i'm not that familiar with mythweb |
| [12:46:00] | brejc8: | if you hover over the titles of the program it will give you the description of what is on |
| [12:46:00] | adante: | davred: well i'm upgrading xorg-x11 right now.. so quite a ways :] |
| [12:46:00] | brejc8: | if you hover over the little radioTimes or tiscali icons it will show you what other websites reccomend for viewing |
| [12:46:00] | adante: | davred: where are you and what card just out of the curiousity? |
| [12:47:00] | davred: | adante, Fusion DVB-T Plus |
| [12:47:00] | davred: | adante, gentoo? |
| [12:47:00] | davred: | adante, i'm in SA |
| [12:47:00] | _dave: | Where do I find out how to use jack audio with mythtv? |
| [12:47:00] | adante: | brejc8: oh, that's quite cool :] |
| [12:47:00] | adante: | davred: yep, gentoo |
| [12:48:00] | davred: | adante, same |
| [12:48:00] | adante: | davred: visionplus, qld here.. always good to see another aussie |
| [12:48:00] | davred: | adante, heh... you have trouble with grabbing program listings? |
| [12:49:00] | adante: | davred: yeah pretty much perpetually :] |
| [12:49:00] | adante: | davred: fortunately Agrajag- helped me out so everything seems to be working now |
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| [12:49:00] | davred: | adante, ah nice... i'm yet to get that working |
| [12:50:00] | adante: | brejc8: just out of curiousity, is there any way to turn mythweb into some sort of "read only" mode, so i can show it to friends without them deleting my recordings? :] |
| [12:51:00] | Spida: | adante: cool idea... *g* |
| [12:51:00] | brejc8: | What I did was to just save the page |
| [12:52:00] | Spida: | hm, who was the guy who mirrored hie whole mythweb to some other box and delete some TB worth of recordings because his mirror-script used the delete-links, too? |
| [12:54:00] | adante: | sounds kind of painful |
| [12:55:00] | laga: | Spida: hahaha, i remember that |
| [12:55:00] | davred: | adante, well good luck with the emerge... i might check back in a day or two and see if you have similar problems to me with sound |
| [12:56:00] | adante: | davred: thanks, yeah i idle here so give me a yell and i'll let you know |
| [12:56:00] | davred: | adante, np |
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| [14:19:00] | rjune: | hiya GeckoFiend |
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| [14:27:00] | laga: | hi rjune |
| [14:30:00] | rjune: | laga: sup? |
| [14:31:00] | laga: | rjune: not much. compiling Qt, again :) |
| [14:31:00] | rjune: | joy |
| [14:31:00] | laga: | yep |
| [14:31:00] | laga: | and it's so hot here |
| [14:32:00] | rjune: | where is here? |
| [14:32:00] | laga: | germany :) |
| [14:33:00] | rjune: | ach, Deutschlad |
| [14:33:00] | rjune: | ach, Deutschland |
| [14:35:00] | laga: | yep ;) |
| [14:36:00] | rjune: | you far from Guadec? |
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| [14:36:00] | laga: | GNOME User and Developer European Conference? |
| [14:37:00] | rjune: | yeah, it's in Stuttgart |
| [14:38:00] | laga: | dunno, let me take a look... |
| [14:39:00] | laga: | 200km, not very far away :). but i'm not very interested in gnome stuff, so why bother ;) |
| [14:39:00] | rjune: | Jammcq is gonna be there |
| [14:40:00] | rjune: | he's giving a talk in 90 mins |
| [14:40:00] | laga: | yeah, i read it |
| [14:42:00] | rjune: | you play with mythgame ever? |
| [14:44:00] | laga: | yeah, i wish i had enough time for that |
| [14:44:00] | laga: | but i bought a gamepad ;) |
| [14:47:00] | rjune: | I got one too, but mythgame is telling me the version of xmame isn't supported |
| [14:47:00] | laga: | i ignore that error because i dontg use xmame ;) |
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| [15:23:00] | marc_in_lux: | hello |
| [15:24:00] | laga: | hi |
| [15:24:00] | marc_in_lux: | I get regular situations where playback of a show is stopped |
| [15:24:00] | marc_in_lux: | it just goes up to a point and then returns to the selection screen |
| [15:24:00] | marc_in_lux: | If I look on the command line what happened it just says >> Player timeout |
| [15:25:00] | marc_in_lux: | nothing dies, I can actually rewatch the show. Up to the same point |
| [15:27:00] | laga: | hey marc_in_lux. i guess i read your blog a long time ago when i was setting up my first mythtv box, nice job. especially the epg data.. ;) |
| [15:27:00] | marc_in_lux: | laga, thanks |
| [15:27:00] | marc_in_lux: | right now myth has gone from toy to convenience item here :-) |
| [15:27:00] | marc_in_lux: | and works perfectly for shows less than an hour |
| [15:28:00] | marc_in_lux: | but with longer shows I always run into that trouble |
| [15:28:00] | marc_in_lux: | or nearly always... |
| [15:28:00] | Ashlar: | marc_in_lux: maybe run the frontend with -v playback and see if the error message is a bit more descriptive? |
| [15:29:00] | marc_in_lux: | Ashlar, trying out right now... |
| [15:29:00] | Ashlar: | is it always at a certain point, or is it always after a certain amount of time? |
| [15:30:00] | Ashlar: | ie, if you fast forward past that point, does it continue past it... |
| [15:30:00] | marc_in_lux: | Ashlar, same error, nothing else |
| [15:31:00] | Ashlar: | poop.. anything interesting in the backend log? |
| [15:31:00] | marc_in_lux: | it's a different point for different shows. But I can't get past it, even with ff'ing |
| [15:34:00] | marc_in_lux: | the backend actually says nothing. |
| [15:34:00] | marc_in_lux: | I started it with -v all |
| [15:37:00] | marc_in_lux: | :-( |
| [15:38:00] | Ashlar: | hrmm.. recording from a pvr-x50?? |
| [15:38:00] | marc_in_lux: | yes. record and playback |
| [15:38:00] | laga: | well, it's probably a broken cut point, but i think it's unlikely. |
| [15:38:00] | Ashlar: | (I'm wondering if it's a damaged mpeg-2).. |
| [15:38:00] | marc_in_lux: | what is a cut point? (duck, i've not been here for a long time) |
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| [15:39:00] | marc_in_lux: | how could I check the mpeg-2? And why would it damage all files longer than an hour or an hour and a half? |
| [15:39:00] | marc_in_lux: | it's not Windows, after all ;-) |
| [15:40:00] | GeckoFiend: | marc_in_lux have you tried watching the recordings with xine or mplayer? |
| [15:40:00] | marc_in_lux: | well, no, actually not. But let me check... |
| [15:40:00] | GeckoFiend: | heh that's the first step |
| [15:41:00] | marc_in_lux: | have to admit, you're right |
| [15:41:00] | ** GeckoFiend wonders if he's hitting a 2gb FS limit due to a crappy fs like ext3 ** | |
| [15:41:00] | marc_in_lux: | but why would that break long files after a 20 odd minutes? |
| [15:41:00] | laga: | GeckoFiend: i guess it's the apps which need to be compiled with large file support |
| [15:42:00] | D-side: | laga: thats correct. |
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| [15:42:00] | marc_in_lux: | fs is jfs here |
| [15:45:00] | marc_in_lux: | I need a couple minutes, to boot another computer with a media player. My mythsetup is not general purpose... |
| [15:54:00] | GeckoFiend: | marc_in_lux I take it you don't use mythVideo / MythDVD |
| [15:54:00] | marc_in_lux: | GeckoFiend, no |
| [15:55:00] | marc_in_lux: | but I'm just making a very strange discovery |
| [15:55:00] | marc_in_lux: | I have an office computer that runs a mythfrontend |
| [15:55:00] | marc_in_lux: | purely software, no decoder in there |
| [15:56:00] | marc_in_lux: | when I try to FF in a show there, it shows the OSD but continually updates the length of the show |
| [15:56:00] | GeckoFiend: | ahhhh |
| [15:56:00] | marc_in_lux: | starts with a phantasy value like 7422 |
| [15:56:00] | GeckoFiend: | on your myth box do mythsqlcheck mythconverg |
| [15:56:00] | GeckoFiend: | err mysqlcheck evern |
| [15:56:00] | GeckoFiend: | sounds like your recordedmarkup table might be corrupt |
| [16:00:00] | marc_in_lux: | nope, didn't fix it |
| [16:00:00] | Ashlar: | then mysqlcheck -r mythconverg to repair, if it finds issues |
| [16:00:00] | marc_in_lux: | did that |
| [16:01:00] | Ashlar: | did it say it found and fixed any problem? |
| [16:02:00] | marc_in_lux: | yes, it did |
| [16:02:00] | marc_in_lux: | but it didn't change this specific behaviour |
| [16:02:00] | Ashlar: | okay.. so you'll want to now recommflag one recording |
| [16:02:00] | marc_in_lux: | what the hell is recommflagging? |
| [16:02:00] | Ashlar: | mythcommflag --rebuild will rebuild em all |
| [16:03:00] | marc_in_lux: | it's running... this is about commercial flagging? Don't use that, actually |
| [16:03:00] | Ashlar: | basically, it's scanning the recordings and rebuilding the seektable |
| [16:03:00] | marc_in_lux: | ok |
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| [16:04:00] | marc_in_lux: | it'll take a minute or two, right? |
| [16:06:00] | Ashlar: | it's actually pretty fast for --rebuild |
| [16:07:00] | clay: | hic |
| [16:07:00] | marc_in_lux: | I just noticed, Ashlar. It ran through the first 3 hour show in 3 minutes |
| [16:09:00] | D-side: | thats a little too quick it seems. |
| [16:09:00] | D-side: | from memory anyway |
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| [16:10:00] | Ashlar: | nah.. --rebuild is wicked fast in 0.18.. not like it used to be |
| [16:10:00] | marc_in_lux: | well, it seemed not to have any effect :-\ |
| [16:10:00] | Ashlar: | damn.. does the end time still fluctuate? |
| [16:10:00] | marc_in_lux: | yes |
| [16:11:00] | Ashlar: | and that's for the recording that just finished rebuilding the seektable? |
| [16:11:00] | marc_in_lux: | yes |
| [16:12:00] | Ashlar: | hrmm.. no clue.. that's the symptom and --rebuild is usually the solution. I'm stumped |
| [16:13:00] | marc_in_lux: | It's actually getting 'a little bit' quicker in adjusting to something close to the real time |
| [16:14:00] | D-side: | i wonder. |
| [16:14:00] | D-side: | whats your capture device? |
| [16:14:00] | marc_in_lux: | PVR250 on the server |
| [16:14:00] | marc_in_lux: | Playback is PVER350 on the client |
| [16:14:00] | rjune: | I got some Full Metal Alchemist. I wanted a plot in mythvideo, so I went to the db and did 'update videometadata set plot = 'a boy and his armor' where category = 5;' only when I look in the frontend, it doesn't show a lot |
| [16:14:00] | rjune: | anybody familiar enough to know what I'm missing? |
| [16:14:00] | D-side: | marc_in_lux: you said you also tried it with a software decoder with the same problems? |
| [16:15:00] | marc_in_lux: | yes, this is actually on the software decoder, D-side. The hardware decoder didn't show that behaviour, but just stopped playback after 20-seomthing minutes |
| [16:16:00] | marc_in_lux: | I am actually getting past the 20 minute barrier on the software decoder now |
| [16:16:00] | marc_in_lux: | but it's very slow in FF'ing |
| [16:16:00] | Ashlar: | rjune: dod you go to manage recordings to refresh the videos list? |
| [16:16:00] | marc_in_lux: | maybe that has to do with mythcommflag loading the server... |
| [16:16:00] | rjune: | Ashlar: yes |
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| [16:16:00] | D-side: | i'm wondering if theres a problem with your source material. meaning, the capture dev. |
| [16:16:00] | D-side: | or ivtv. |
| [16:17:00] | rjune: | Ashlar: I'm not sure if there's some other flag in the db I need to trigger or what |
| [16:17:00] | Ashlar: | rjune: dunno.. wouldn't think so |
| [16:18:00] | marc_in_lux: | I can watch livetv pretty much eternally |
| [16:18:00] | Ashlar: | is this in the videometadata table? |
| [16:18:00] | marc_in_lux: | so I tend to believe ivtv is happy |
| [16:19:00] | rjune: | Ashlar: yeah |
| [16:19:00] | Ashlar: | hrm |
| [16:19:00] | D-side: | marc_in_lux: same recording profile? meaning bitrates and such? |
| [16:19:00] | D-side: | i think you're right though, doesnt seem like ivtv after that. |
| [16:20:00] | marc_in_lux: | no, bigger actually. Livetv is turned up to 11 ;-) |
| [16:20:00] | D-side: | jeez. :) |
| [16:20:00] | marc_in_lux: | D-side, the wife claims she sees the difference. |
| [16:21:00] | marc_in_lux: | and who am I to disagree... ;-) |
| [16:22:00] | D-side: | marc_in_lux: oh i understand. |
| [16:22:00] | D-side: | wife != disagree |
| [16:22:00] | D-side: | girlfriend == disagree |
| [16:22:00] | D-side: | theres a huge difference. |
| [16:23:00] | marc_in_lux: | :-) |
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| [16:35:00] | rjune: | Ashlar: no ides then eh? |
| [16:36:00] | Ashlar: | no, I just tried changing one of mine, and it worked.. not sure what's up.. wait.. did you do a 'commit' after making the change? heh |
| [16:37:00] | rjune: | Uhm, a commit? |
| [16:37:00] | Ashlar: | yah.. that actually commits the changes |
| [16:37:00] | Ashlar: | or did you exit mysql client |
| [16:37:00] | rjune: | done in mysql? or in myth? |
| [16:37:00] | Ashlar: | in mysql |
| [16:37:00] | rjune: | didn't commit, but I did exit |
| [16:38:00] | GeckoFiend: | Ashlar commit shouldn't be reuired |
| [16:38:00] | Ashlar: | shouldn't, no.. |
| [16:38:00] | rjune: | did commit too |
| [16:38:00] | rjune: | no love |
| [16:38:00] | GeckoFiend: | rjune stilly question but were you hitting the right database? i.e. mythconverg on the correct server |
| [16:38:00] | marc_in_lux: | while I'm wayting for my commflagging... could somebody enlighten me about power searches? |
| [16:39:00] | marc_in_lux: | I can put some in using mythfrontend, but apparently not with mythweb |
| [16:39:00] | rjune: | GeckoFiend: I believe so |
| [16:39:00] | marc_in_lux: | and, how Do i get rid of them? |
| [16:39:00] | rjune: | I addded Fifth element today, and it's showing up |
| [16:39:00] | rjune: | and the other machine that had a backend running isn't running it currently. |
| [16:40:00] | rjune: | although.... I just stopped the db on that machine. |
| [16:41:00] | rjune: | doh, I think I may have found it |
| [16:41:00] | rjune: | yup |
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| [16:47:00] | GeckoFiend: | gonna keep us hanging? |
| [16:49:00] | rjune: | running two dbs |
| [16:49:00] | rjune: | one on old backend, one on new backend |
| [16:49:00] | Ashlar: | uhh |
| [16:49:00] | Ashlar: | hehe |
| [16:49:00] | rjune: | doh! |
| [16:49:00] | rjune: | ok, so why do I have to setup directories on every frontend? |
| [16:50:00] | Qwertys: | anyone seen the message in ivtv "failed to load tuner module? |
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| [16:50:00] | Ashlar: | rjune: becasue they could be different on each frontend |
| [16:50:00] | Qwertys: | i think that may be causing all of my problems, because all i get is static |
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| [16:53:00] | MajestiK: | My backend's being wierd, it's shifted all the schedule back an hour, system time is right, system timezene is good, I've played with the xmltv time offset, and that doesn't change anything |
| [16:53:00] | rjune: | I understand that, but shouldn't it default to the backend setting? |
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| [16:54:00] | Ashlar: | well, there is no backend setting for mythvideo / mythmusic |
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| [17:00:00] | Qwertys: | anyone else here using an old (4–5 year) PVR250? i cant get mine to tune... |
| [17:01:00] | Ashlar: | Qwertys: do a modprobe tveeprom to see what kind of tuner it reports |
| [17:01:00] | Qwertys: | it reports it as type 8 |
| [17:01:00] | Qwertys: | i looked at the dmesg |
| [17:02:00] | Qwertys: | however, when i looked at the tuner itself, the descriptions in that and tuner.h didnt match |
| [17:02:00] | Qwertys: | which makes me wonder if its right. |
| [17:02:00] | Ashlar: | interesting.. did you get a model # off the tuner itself? |
| [17:02:00] | Ashlar: | philips? |
| [17:02:00] | Qwertys: | microtune 4036 FY5 |
| [17:03:00] | Qwertys: | funny cause the only 4036 FY5 listed is Temic |
| [17:03:00] | Ashlar: | yah.. altho I think tuner 9 is also a 4038 |
| [17:03:00] | laga: | http://pastebin.ca/12902 <- has anyone ever seen this error? |
| [17:03:00] | Ashlar: | err wait, that's a 4036 |
| [17:04:00] | laga: | interesting. make says 'too many levels of symbolic links' |
| [17:04:00] | Qwertys: | well i'll try anything at this point |
| [17:05:00] | Qwertys: | and unfortunatly the only way i've found to change tuners is to reboot. :( |
| [17:06:00] | Ashlar: | rmmod'ing then modprobing them again doesn't work? |
| [17:07:00] | Qwertys: | it says its in use |
| [17:07:00] | Qwertys: | even after first bootup |
| [17:07:00] | Ashlar: | ahh.. yah, you have to unload em all in the right order, it is a pain in the ass |
| [17:07:00] | Qwertys: | !!! |
| [17:08:00] | Qwertys: | than i'll make a script to do it for me. :P |
| [17:08:00] | Qwertys: | but what order? |
| [17:09:00] | Ashlar: | check the ivtv faq.. reverse the order that they say to load em |
| [17:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | this is what I use to kiadand unload without a problem: http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/rc.ivtv |
| [17:11:00] | Qwertys: | ivtv: Failed to load module tuner < I still think this may be a problem though. ivtv version 2.0.latest |
| [17:11:00] | Qwertys: | thanks grey |
| [17:12:00] | Ashlar: | nice script |
| [17:12:00] | Qwertys: | very well written. :) |
| [17:12:00] | Ashlar: | Qwertys: check to see if you have multiple tuner modules, maybe? |
| [17:14:00] | Leebier: | anyone here using a PVR350? I'm having issues getting myth to output to my TV |
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| [17:16:00] | Qwertys: | Ashlar: i dont think i have ANY tuner modules |
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| [17:17:00] | Ashlar: | lol, that would explain it then.. heheh |
| [17:17:00] | Qwertys: | i thought it would be installed with ivtv? |
| [17:17:00] | Ashlar: | yah, it should |
| [17:18:00] | Qwertys: | where does ivtv put its modules? |
| [17:19:00] | Ashlar: | .. /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ivtv/tuner.ko |
| [17:21:00] | Qwertys: | i dont see an ivtv directory |
| [17:21:00] | Ashlar: | well try locate ivtv.o or locate ivtv.ko and see where that lives |
| [17:22:00] | Qwertys: | .. /lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r8/extra/ivtv.ko |
| [17:23:00] | Qwertys: | nope, no tuner.ko |
| [17:23:00] | Qwertys: | is it installed by the kernel? |
| [17:24:00] | Ashlar: | well, one version usually is, which is the problem a lot of times (using the one installed with the kernel instead of ivtv) |
| [17:24:00] | Qwertys: | hmm |
| [17:26:00] | Leebier|mythbox: | anyone around with a PVR350? |
| [17:26:00] | Qwertys: | well, i just compiled the driver by hand, and your right, there it is |
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| [17:28:00] | pyrodex: | Leebier|mythbox: yea |
| [17:28:00] | Leebier|mythbox: | pyro i'm having trouble getting anything to output on the TV |
| [17:28:00] | Leebier|mythbox: | myth seems to run fine |
| [17:29:00] | pyrodex: | Oh your using TV output on PVR350? Sorry I don't use that |
| [17:29:00] | Leebier|mythbox: | and the tuner is recording fine as well (well, at least it was before i started messing with things again) |
| [17:29:00] | Leebier|mythbox: | yeah, i had it working once before but i've started over and i can't get any output from it |
| [17:29:00] | pyrodex: | Leebier|mythbox are you following any guides? |
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| [17:29:00] | Leebier|mythbox: | yep, and things worked fine as i followed them |
| [17:29:00] | Leebier|mythbox: | notably jarrod's guide |
| [17:30:00] | Leebier|mythbox: | well, there were bits taht didn't work that were irrelevant |
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| [17:30:00] | Leebier|mythbox: | but they're fixed now anyway |
| [17:30:00] | pyrodex: | Hmmm |
| [17:30:00] | pyrodex: | Not sure, I am not the guru of TV output on pvr350 since I've never used it personally sorry |
| [17:31:00] | Leebier|mythbox: | it's ok, thanks |
| [17:31:00] | Leebier|mythbox: | anyone else? |
| [17:33:00] | marc_in_lux: | Leebier, what is your problem? |
| [17:33:00] | marc_in_lux: | been some time since I configured it... |
| [17:33:00] | Leebier: | my PVR-350 is refusing to output to my TV |
| [17:33:00] | Leebier: | it is recording fine |
| [17:33:00] | marc_in_lux: | does the test screen work? |
| [17:33:00] | Leebier: | when testing everything i was able to take a sample caputre and output it to the tv |
| [17:33:00] | Leebier: | well, the test screen sorta works |
| [17:34:00] | Leebier: | saa7128 definately controls if there's an image up or not, but what comes up isn't the test screen |
| [17:34:00] | marc_in_lux: | ntsc/pal problems maybe? |
| [17:34:00] | Leebier: | well, what comes up is just a black screen |
| [17:34:00] | Leebier: | and i'm NTSC and i'm 99% sure i didn't follow any PAL directions |
| [17:35:00] | Qwertys: | should i just try ivtv version 3.3? is it pretty stable? |
| [17:35:00] | marc_in_lux: | I just wanted to paste you my XF86Config, but I'm in PAL land. |
| [17:36:00] | Leebier: | i'm on FC3 and it looks like it's not XF86Config anymore anyway, and would a problem with that file result in no output to the TV even when i'm not using the tv for X? |
| [17:36:00] | Leebier: | (trying to get the TV to display X is the NEXT problem to solve) |
| [17:36:00] | marc_in_lux: | did you play around with the local and global alpha settings? |
| [17:36:00] | marc_in_lux: | ivtvfbctl --someparameter |
| [17:37:00] | Leebier: | just the lines in jarrod's howto |
| [17:38:00] | Leebier: | /usr/bin/ivtvfbctl /dev/fb0 -alpha -on -globalalpha -nolocalalph |
| [17:38:00] | marc_in_lux: | I don't remember anymore in detail how they work – and they probably changed since I try |
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| [17:38:00] | marc_in_lux: | but try all combinations of local alpha and global alpha while the test screen is on |
| [17:38:00] | marc_in_lux: | see if it comes up |
| [17:41:00] | Leebier: | i think right now there's an issue with the fact that some other program seems ot have a hold of /dev/video0 |
| [17:41:00] | Leebier: | and i'm not sure what does |
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| [17:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | Leebier|mythbox: video0 is input, video32 is output I think |
| [17:47:00] | Leebier: | hmm |
| [17:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | lsof will show you all the open files and the process id that owns them |
| [17:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | lsof | grep video |
| [17:48:00] | Leebier|mythbox: | ah, mythbackend has it |
| [17:48:00] | Leebier|mythbox: | but i could swear i shut that down! |
| [17:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | which would make sense |
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| [17:49:00] | Qwertys: | for some reason an emerge on ivtv-0.2.0-rc3–4 doesn't install the tuner module |
| [17:51:00] | Ashlar: | Qwertys: that's just bizarre |
| [17:53:00] | Leebier|mythbox: | looking at the mythfrontend output, when i try to open a prerecorded show, i get "Writing to videodec: Operation not permitted" |
| [17:53:00] | Qwertys: | yea it compiles it, but no install |
| [17:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | Leebier|mythbox: check permissions on video32 |
| [17:54:00] | Qwertys: | so i do an insmod on it, but it just moves it to ./usr/src/linux/drivers/bla ... |
| [17:54:00] | Leebier: | yeah, i was just about to do that |
| [17:54:00] | Leebier: | because i got another message that made me wonder |
| [17:54:00] | Qwertys: | how do i get the module installed? |
| [17:54:00] | Leebier: | however, i know virutally nothing about permissions |
| [17:55:00] | Leebier: | i know i want to chmod |
| [17:56:00] | Ashlar: | Qwertys: if you compiled ivtv by hand then a make install should do it |
| [17:56:00] | rjune: | Leebier: do you know binary? |
| [17:56:00] | Leebier: | nope |
| [17:56:00] | Leebier: | /video is drwxr-xr-x for both buffer and recordings |
| [17:56:00] | Qwertys: | Ashlar: well i was trying to get it to work through emerge first... |
| [17:57:00] | rjune: | Leebier: then stick to the human form, o+rwx gives Owner Read, Write, and eXecute perms |
| [17:57:00] | Leebier: | how do i check who owns the directory, i have a feeling it's owener is root |
| [17:57:00] | rjune: | Leebier: that means owner has rwx, group and world have read and execute |
| [17:57:00] | rjune: | ls -ld /video |
| [17:57:00] | Ashlar: | Qwertys: ahh, no clue then, sorry |
| [17:58:00] | Leebier: | i assume 501 is the user who owns it? |
| [17:58:00] | rjune: | Uhm, that's bad |
| [17:58:00] | rjune: | that means it can't find the username |
| [17:58:00] | Leebier: | great |
| [17:58:00] | Leebier: | oh |
| [17:58:00] | Leebier: | i bet i know how that happened |
| [17:59:00] | Leebier: | how do i change the owner? |
| [17:59:00] | rjune: | chown |
| [17:59:00] | Leebier: | that's probably easier than explaining how it happened |
| [17:59:00] | rjune: | chown -R to do it recursively |
| [17:59:00] | rjune: | deleted the user? |
| [17:59:00] | Leebier: | reformatted to install FC3, kept the /video hard drive |
| [17:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | I was not referring to the permissions on your video storage directory. I believe that error was saying ti failed to open the video device output |
| [18:00:00] | Leebier: | oh, well then i need to change those permissions too probably |
| [18:00:00] | rjune: | Leebier: that'll do it too. Do you have multiple computers, or just one? |
| [18:00:00] | Leebier: | two |
| [18:00:00] | Leebier: | i'm not on the mythbox right now |
| [18:00:00] | Leebier: | but i'm at a terminal prompt |
| [18:00:00] | rjune: | ah, desktop and mythbox. |
| [18:00:00] | Leebier: | it's easier than sitting in front of my tv |
| [18:00:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: you ever play with mythgame? |
| [18:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | no |
| [18:01:00] | rjune: | Ah well. |
| [18:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | I launch my games manually during the once a year event that I play games |
| [18:01:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [18:01:00] | Qwertys: | why do so many unstable projects neglect gentoo portage. :( |
| [18:01:00] | rjune: | because gentoo is the work of the devil |
| [18:02:00] | Qwertys: | well... i hear the devil really isn't that bad of a guy |
| [18:02:00] | rjune: | I dunno, I saw futurama, he seemd to be a vindictive bastard |
| [18:03:00] | Leebier: | drwxr-xr-x 2 mythtv 501 8192 May 29 11:52 recordings |
| [18:03:00] | Leebier: | there's still a 501 in there, but i don't remember waht that column represents |
| [18:03:00] | rjune: | group |
| [18:03:00] | rjune: | chgrp |
| [18:04:00] | Ashlar: | or chown mythtv:mythtv |
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| [18:04:00] | Leebier: | awesome |
| [18:04:00] | Leebier: | i assume i should do the same to /video0? |
| [18:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | can you record as of right now ? |
| [18:05:00] | Leebier: | well, /dev/video |
| [18:05:00] | Leebier: | i can't tell |
| [18:05:00] | Leebier: | due to other issues |
| [18:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | dev/video is likely a symlink |
| [18:05:00] | Leebier: | actually, i don't think video0 is hte problem |
| [18:05:00] | Leebier: | as of last night, it could record |
| [18:06:00] | Leebier: | but i can't playback |
| [18:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | neighther do I, which is why I told you to look at video32 |
| [18:06:00] | Leebier: | right |
| [18:06:00] | Leebier: | well, i don't have a /dev/video32 |
| [18:06:00] | Leebier: | which doesn't seem good |
| [18:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | what /dev/videox devices are there ? |
| [18:06:00] | Leebier: | just 0 |
| [18:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | then that would be a problem |
| [18:06:00] | Leebier: | well, at least we know what the problem is now |
| [18:07:00] | Leebier: | any idea what i did wrong or how it can be fixed? |
| [18:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | why, no idea, how, try making the device |
| [18:08:00] | GreyFoxx: | usually whatever guide you are following would explain how to do just that |
| [18:08:00] | Qwertys: | works now |
| [18:08:00] | Qwertys: | thanks guys |
| [18:08:00] | Ashlar: | woot |
| [18:08:00] | Leebier: | it seems that jarrod's guide (at least the current version) assumes it will make itself correctly |
| [18:08:00] | Qwertys: | please note that the latest ivtv ebuild does not install the tuner module |
| [18:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | mknod /dev/video32 c 81 32 |
| [18:09:00] | Qwertys: | in case anyone else runs into what i did. |
| [18:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've never actually seen Jarrods guide, so it might assume that |
| [18:09:00] | Leebier: | file exists |
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| [18:09:00] | Leebier: | ok, it is there |
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| [18:09:00] | Leebier: | now i'm beginning to think i'm insane |
| [18:09:00] | Qwertys: | now how do i setup mythbackend to run mythfilldatabase daily? i dont want to dirty up my cron jobs |
| [18:10:00] | Leebier: | oh, cute |
| [18:10:00] | Ashlar: | Qwertys: in mythfrontend, setup, general |
| [18:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | You might need to reload the modules. It might work now, but might not |
| [18:10:00] | Leebier: | no, it was there all along |
| [18:10:00] | Leebier: | i'm a moron |
| [18:10:00] | Leebier: | crw------- 1 mythtv root 81, 32 May 28 15:17 video32 |
| [18:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | chmod a+rw /dev/vide32 |
| [18:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | oops |
| [18:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | video32 |
| [18:11:00] | Leebier: | same permissions/users for video16 and 24 and |
| [18:11:00] | Leebier: | should i also change 16 and 24? |
| [18:11:00] | Leebier: | well, 48 too |
| [18:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | sure |
| [18:12:00] | Leebier: | and which module would i need to reload? |
| [18:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | 48 is the yuv output I think |
| [18:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | try it first |
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| [18:14:00] | Leebier|mythbox: | myth is being very uncooperating, liveTV died a bad bad death and it's not wanting to bring up my recorded programs list |
| [18:14:00] | sphing: | hey GreyFoxx, I finally got the 2.6 kernel working and i wanted to thank you for the niveus driver |
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| [18:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: Cool :) |
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| [18:15:00] | Leebier: | there was something wrong, i'm rebooting |
| [18:16:00] | Leebier: | it took like 10 seconds to send that last message and then another 5 or 6 seconds to send the reboot command |
| [18:16:00] | Leebier: | we'll see what happens after the restart |
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| [18:23:00] | vividan: | hey guys |
| [18:23:00] | Leebier|mythbox: | same thing |
| [18:24:00] | Leebier|mythbox: | Writing to videodev: Operation not permitted |
| [18:26:00] | vividan: | Anybody feel like helping me solve a db error in upgrading the backend from .17 to .18? |
| [18:27:00] | Leebier: | should i be messing with the permissions of /lib/modules/2.6.11–1.27_FC3/build/include/linux/videodev.h |
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| [18:34:00] | Leebier: | still here grey? |
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| [19:01:00] | Servo888: | Anybody have the wintv pvr 150 low profile? I need some length specs |
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| [19:04:00] | goodtod: | is X absolutely necessary to install mythtv? |
| [19:05:00] | opello: | yes |
| [19:05:00] | goodtod: | opello: OK :-\ |
| [19:05:00] | opello: | myth uses qt, qt uses x headers |
| [19:05:00] | Servo888: | goodtod, depends – are you planning in using the backend only or both the frontend and backend? |
| [19:05:00] | opello: | Servo888: i was told even the backend needs qt |
| [19:05:00] | goodtod: | Servo888: On this machine, just the backend |
| [19:06:00] | rjune: | Servo888: if you would have asked me 3 days ago I could have told you |
| [19:06:00] | rjune: | Servo888: what do you need? |
| [19:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | ] |
| [19:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | A friend of mine uses 848x480 on his projector. It does 854x480 native but he couldn't get his PC to use a non divisible by 8 value :)""{"{"{"{ |
| [19:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | "{ |
| [19:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | "{ |
| [19:07:00] | Servo888: | opello, you can always just compile it remotly. But if you have the time run ldd mythbackend to see if it uses any of x / qt related libs. I don't have it installed right now so I can't =\ |
| [19:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | grrr |
| [19:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | fucking kids |
| [19:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | wont keep her hands off my keyboard |
| [19:07:00] | Cardoe: | opello: the backend does use QT |
| [19:07:00] | Cardoe: | I'd love to get rid of that dep so much |
| [19:08:00] | opello: | yay |
| [19:08:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: they're cute. |
| [19:08:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: mine likes to pull the spacebar off |
| [19:08:00] | opello: | Cardoe: it'd be nice, for those that use separate machines for the backend |
| [19:08:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: 854 is devisible by 8 |
| [19:09:00] | Servo888: | rjune, I need to know the length of the card. I'm building a slim pc and now that I've seen the size of the card I'm thinking it might run into my cdrom drive |
| [19:09:00] | goodtod: | opello, Cardoe, Servo888: will removing qt/X after the installation cause any problems? |
| [19:09:00] | rjune: | Uhm, I think it's to the back of the PCI bus and no further, but I don't know off the top of my head |
| [19:09:00] | Cardoe: | goodtod: yes |
| [19:09:00] | Cardoe: | goodtod: it uses QT libraries all over the place. |
| [19:09:00] | Cardoe: | in fact... all the MySQL calls I wrapped in QT crap |
| [19:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | rjune: No, it's not |
| [19:10:00] | goodtod: | Cardoe: ugh, I thought it was just mythsetup |
| [19:10:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: I said I thought. I thought they weren't that long either |
| [19:10:00] | rjune: | I saw the 150MCE just the other day, thought it was pretty small |
| [19:10:00] | goodtod: | Cardoe: It makes me depressed running X all day when it is sitting in the basement without a monitor |
| [19:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | thought what wderen't that long ? |
| [19:11:00] | rjune: | goodtod: doesn't have to be running X |
| [19:11:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: the 150mce |
| [19:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | I said nothing about a 150, so you must be replying to someone else :) |
| [19:11:00] | beavis: | why is mythplugins installing everything to /lib/mythtv/plugins here? (instead of /usr/lib/mythtv/plugins) |
| [19:12:00] | goodtod: | rjune: oh, that's good |
| [19:14:00] | rjune: | goodtod: you said no it's not. |
| [19:14:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: ^ |
| [19:14:00] | rjune: | you must have been referring to your daughter being cute |
| [19:14:00] | goodtod: | goodtod: huh? |
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| [19:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | rjune: You are making no sense to me. It was obvious I was cursing about my daughter, and I said nothing about the 150, nor did I saw anything about the length of anything :) |
| [19:16:00] | Leebier: | grey- any more ideas about how/why i'm not getting video out? |
| [19:16:00] | opello: | goodtod: it doesn't need to run in x |
| [19:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | Leebier|mythbox: My only and last suggestion is to run mythfrontend with verbosity turned all the way up to see if it tells you EXACTLY what it was doing when it gfives that error |
| [19:17:00] | opello: | goodtod: just needs qt libs to do stuff |
| [19:17:00] | opello: | goodtod: my mythbackend runs before x is even ran ... |
| [19:17:00] | Leebier: | i can do that, what's the switch to turn on verbosity? |
| [19:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | -v all |
| [19:17:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: don't feel bad, I'm making no sense to me either |
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| [19:19:00] | goodtod: | opello: so do i never have to install X period? |
| [19:21:00] | Leebier|mythbox: | grey- i PMed you the output |
| [19:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't care about the output :) I like said it was my last and only suggestion for you :) I'm in too much fo a bad mood to be helping anyone right now |
| [19:22:00] | Leebier: | oh |
| [19:22:00] | Leebier: | um |
| [19:22:00] | Leebier: | alright |
| [19:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | My suggestion was to help you get closing to figuring it out. |
| [19:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | You could also learn how to use strace and see if you can verify what it is failing to open |
| [19:24:00] | Leebier: | nah, i apprecaite what you've done, i'm not like upset with you or anything, just feeling a little lost |
| [19:26:00] | Leebier: | maybe someone else will be around later with some more knowledge on the topic, or worst case i can wait for beirdo to return :) |
| [19:28:00] | rjune: | GreyFoxx: will me making no sense improve your mood? |
| [19:29:00] | laga: | *sigh* |
| [19:29:00] | laga: | anyone having problems with building latest CVS in signalmonitor.cpp? |
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| [19:34:00] | JeepJerk: | goodtod did you get your answer? |
| [19:35:00] | Qwertys: | i forgot to set my timezone file, not i have it set but all my schedules are off. how can i fix it? |
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| [19:42:00] | Cardoe: | goodtod: you don't have to run X |
| [19:42:00] | Cardoe: | goodtod: just have it |
| [19:46:00] | laga: | BTW, i have some spare gmail invites. ;) |
| [19:46:00] | dhofstra: | gmail rocks. |
| [19:47:00] | dhofstra: | isnt it open to the public now? |
| [19:47:00] | laga: | dunno, but i have 50 invites ;) |
| [19:47:00] | laga: | so i guess it ain't public yet |
| [19:48:00] | dhofstra: | me too, I heard that it randomly will give an invite to the public when they visit the page |
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| [19:48:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [19:48:00] | dhofstra: | nice how they do all their announcements on april 1st |
| [19:48:00] | laga: | hehe |
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| [19:49:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [19:49:00] | ** xris wonders who keeps taking his nick ** | |
| [19:50:00] | dhofstra: | dont you register it? |
| [19:51:00] | xris: | I do |
| [19:51:00] | xris: | you can still use a nick without a password. just means that I can take it back when I log in |
| [19:51:00] | dhofstra: | ah |
| [19:51:00] | dhofstra: | was wondering why you were talking about building mythporn... |
| [19:52:00] | dhofstra: | he he |
| [19:52:00] | laga: | heh |
| [19:52:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [19:52:00] | rjune: | I have that module, it's great |
| [19:52:00] | laga: | ok, third try to subscribe to the ml with my gmail account. |
| [19:53:00] | dhofstra: | laga what is going wrong? |
| [19:54:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | anyone around that can lend a hand with 350 output? |
| [19:55:00] | laga: | dhofstra: i tried it a few months ago and i didn't work, but now it works. yay! |
| [19:56:00] | laga: | You are currently using 5 MB (0%) of your 2241 MB. |
| [19:56:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [19:56:00] | dhofstra: | now you need to setup filters |
| [19:56:00] | laga: | yep |
| [19:56:00] | dhofstra: | I had a hard time getting them right |
| [19:56:00] | laga: | 'labels' ;) |
| [19:56:00] | dhofstra: | but I finally have something that works |
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| [19:56:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | hey, xris, the new mythweb is very pretty, i'm impressed :) |
| [19:57:00] | laga: | well, i get mythtv-users to my main mail account. and i've been to lazy to setzp filters. ;) |
| [19:57:00] | cortezdapimp: | there's a new mythweb? |
| [19:57:00] | dhofstra: | filters and Labels |
| [19:57:00] | laga: | new mythweb? is it time for a cvs up again? |
| [19:57:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | no |
| [19:57:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | i just put on .18.1 |
| [19:57:00] | cortezdapimp: | ah |
| [19:57:00] | laga: | oh, ok |
| [19:57:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | sorry, "new to me" |
| [19:57:00] | cortezdapimp: | lol |
| [19:57:00] | cortezdapimp: | does anyone know a way to hook up my mythbox as a airport-express style itunes speaker? |
| [19:58:00] | xris: | Leebier|350HELP: thanks |
| [19:58:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | and since i currently can't output to my tv, looks like i'll be doing most of my watching from my desktop for the time being, so i'll be spending lots of time with mythweb |
| [19:58:00] | rjune: | cortezdapimp: no, but that sounds cool, if you find out please share |
| [19:58:00] | cortezdapimp: | lol |
| [19:58:00] | cortezdapimp: | ok |
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| [19:59:00] | laga: | it takes bloody ages to compile mythtv on this celeron 2.4ghz. |
| [19:59:00] | dhofstra: | over 30 minutes |
| [19:59:00] | dhofstra: | then you get to do the plugins |
| [19:59:00] | rjune: | heh, try it on a P3 866 |
| [20:00:00] | ** xris grumbles about having to finish painting his deck today. ** | |
| [20:00:00] | laga: | dhofstra: are you joking? like a few hours. but this machine is being used otherwise, i guess. |
| [20:00:00] | laga: | rjune: heh. i used to use a p4–450 ;) |
| [20:00:00] | dhofstra: | my celeron 2.4 is about 45 minute compile |
| [20:00:00] | laga: | p3* |
| [20:01:00] | laga: | dhofstra: well, i'm building in some kind of crosscompiling setup, things aren't very optimized i guess. |
| [20:01:00] | dhofstra: | heh |
| [20:01:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | wanna write my thesis instead of painting your deck? :) |
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| [20:02:00] | xris: | Leebier|350HELP: what subject? |
| [20:02:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | economics |
| [20:02:00] | xris: | sorry, not my area... |
| [20:03:00] | ** xris did go to school with someone who is apparently teaching econ at harvard, though. ** | |
| [20:03:00] | xris: | (scary thing is he'd be about 27 now) |
| [20:03:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | hmm, i should know this guy :) |
| [20:04:00] | xris: | Roland Freyer (Fryer?) |
| [20:04:00] | xris: | nice guy, brilliant, got his PhD at 23. |
| [20:08:00] | rjune: | laga: that works ok for a audio player, not so great for video player |
| [20:10:00] | laga: | rjune: well, it worked 'ok' with an pvr 250 and Xvmc. but it wasn't a satisfying experience |
| [20:10:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [20:11:00] | egsavage: | Any ATI fglrx users out here? |
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| [20:12:00] | egsavage: | I finally got TV out for the XV layer going (missing a magic line from the examples I found up to now). But I see some weird color artifacts on bright colors such as red, orange, yellow... Now I'm assuming there is some other setting I need to tweak |
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| [20:15:00] | initrc: | Hi |
| [20:15:00] | initrc: | German here? |
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| [20:16:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | can he get me into their ph.d program? :-p |
| [20:16:00] | laga: | initrc: jawollja! |
| [20:16:00] | initrc: | Hallo laga |
| [20:16:00] | initrc: | Ich habe ein Problem mit mythtv, sehr primitic |
| [20:17:00] | laga: | initrc: kumm niwwa in #mythtv-de , do isses gemiedlicha |
| [20:17:00] | initrc: | s/c/v |
| [20:17:00] | initrc: | Joar da bin ich @ laga |
| [20:17:00] | rjune: | Was ist Joar en Englisch? |
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| [20:19:00] | laga: | rjune: 'yes' or 'yeah' |
| [20:19:00] | rjune: | Ah |
| [20:20:00] | rjune: | Danke schon |
| [20:20:00] | xris: | rjune: brauchts ein Umlaut? |
| [20:21:00] | ** xris möchte Umlauts. ** | |
| [20:21:00] | rjune: | my keyboard doesn't have that. |
| [20:21:00] | rjune: | and I never learned how to |
| [20:21:00] | Cardoe: | Are we all German in here? |
| [20:21:00] | xris: | you need to turn on the compose key. |
| [20:21:00] | ** xris is american. ** | |
| [20:21:00] | rjune: | nope, I'm from the US |
| [20:21:00] | xris: | rjune: you running linux? |
| [20:21:00] | rjune: | yup |
| [20:21:00] | xris: | xmodmap -e "keycode 116 = Multi_key" |
| [20:22:00] | xris: | turns your right windows key into the compose key |
| [20:22:00] | Cardoe: | Well you have German backgrounds then |
| [20:22:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [20:22:00] | xris: | Cardoe: nope. just studied it in school |
| [20:22:00] | rjune: | Gaelic mostly for me |
| [20:22:00] | ** xris speaks a TINY bit of gaedhlig ** | |
| [20:22:00] | initrc: | i have a problem with the mythtv-setup, i cant reach the button "searching channels" |
| [20:23:00] | xris: | rjune: anyway, run that xmodmap command, and then you can hit "compose, ", o" (separate keystrokes) to get umlaut... |
| [20:23:00] | xris: | compose, s, s, to get ß etc. |
| [20:23:00] | xris: | I've never found a complete list of what linux supports. |
| [20:23:00] | initrc: | i have no mousecusor in this menu |
| [20:24:00] | initrc: | an the tab key doesn't activate this button |
| [20:24:00] | xris: | initrc: mythtv disables the mouse, it's designed to be used with a remote. |
| [20:24:00] | xris: | try up/down arrors |
| [20:24:00] | xris: | arrows |
| [20:24:00] | rjune: | xris: I apparently have font fun too, I don't see the ess esset or your umloat chars |
| [20:24:00] | rjune: | gah, umlaut |
| [20:24:00] | initrc: | up down is the same effect like the tab – key |
| [20:24:00] | xris: | rjune: that's more likely your client configured for a different charset. |
| [20:24:00] | rjune: | could be |
| [20:25:00] | initrc: | xris: how can i use lirc in mythv? |
| [20:25:00] | xris: | initrc: then maybe you need to enable something else in that configuration screen? |
| [20:25:00] | xris: | initrc: google has plenty of info about lirc and mythtv. |
| [20:25:00] | rjune: | so does the mythtv website I thought |
| [20:26:00] | xris: | that, too |
| [20:26:00] | initrc: | google has given me no result for mythtv and lirc |
| [20:26:00] | xris: | rjune: you're probably running in utf-8 mode.. most irc needs to be hard-coded for latin1 |
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| [20:27:00] | xris: | initrc: huh? brings up tons for me. |
| [20:27:00] | Cardoe: | what umlauts? I don't see any, |
| [20:28:00] | xris: | ö ? |
| [20:28:00] | dhofstra: | http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/search.pl?query=lirc%20mythtv |
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| [20:31:00] | xris: | someone really needs to pass the encoding through in irc. would make things so much easier for people with different charsets. |
| [20:32:00] | xris: | someone being whoever sets the standards for things like irc. |
| [20:40:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [20:40:00] | laga: | there is an RFC. |
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| [20:49:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | and when was the last time i sandards setting committee did something sensible? |
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| [20:50:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | standards* |
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| [20:57:00] | laga: | is it possible to do a make prefix=/some/path/ install with mythtv? |
| [20:57:00] | laga: | or do i have to supply the correct value to the configure script? |
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| [21:00:00] | simon_c: | evening all. |
| [21:00:00] | laga: | hi simon_c |
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| [21:01:00] | simon_c: | What's the easiest way to chop sections out of a myth recording ? I had a look at the docs on the www.myth.org site, but it only seems to have a passing referance to comertial flagging. |
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| [21:05:00] | laga: | rjune: well, mythfrontend compiled, but it gets installed in the wrong path. *sigh* |
| [21:06:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [21:06:00] | rjune: | /usr/local? |
| [21:07:00] | laga: | yep. overwriting the install on my production system ;) |
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| [21:09:00] | rjune: | oops |
| [21:09:00] | rjune: | does it support DESTDIR= in the make install? |
| [21:09:00] | laga: | nope. |
| [21:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | no, but there is a PREFIX type declaration you can do earlier in the compile process to choose one |
| [21:10:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: yeah, i know. |
| [21:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | either an environment variable or something you pass to configure |
| [21:10:00] | GreyFoxx: | oh, sorry Ijust looked up and read what you said previously |
| [21:11:00] | laga: | but it's odd. rjune: the {LTSP_ROOT} var is empty, which results in the build scripts passing --prefix=/ to configure. |
| [21:11:00] | laga: | which, umm, sucks :) |
| [21:12:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: heh. |
| [21:12:00] | ** laga is trying to make a package for an distro that has almost no documentation for their package system ** | |
| [21:17:00] | rjune: | laga: I'm stepping out, but I'll check back and see if I can help you out some |
| [21:18:00] | laga: | rjune: well, i'll go to bed now, let's hope we can figure this out some time ;) |
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| [21:30:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | anyone around that can lend a hand with 350 output? |
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| [21:54:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | it works! |
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| [21:54:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | greyfoxx- output is video16, not 32 |
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| [21:56:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | brb |
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| [22:12:00] | Cardoe: | laga: ping |
| [22:12:00] | ChrisMacTire: | I'm getting some artifacts with my prv 350 card at 720x480. not a lot, just once or twice an hour. I'm having trouble googling. Anyone got some keywords to suggest? |
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| [22:14:00] | cortezdapimp: | hello |
| [22:15:00] | cortezdapimp: | quick question – what file do i edit to add to the main menu? i want to add a link to start a java app (applerecords) to stream music from my itunes library |
| [22:15:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | so i hosed my xorg.conf file (think XF86Config), anyone know how i can to a prompt where I can restore the old file? |
| [22:16:00] | ChrisMacTire: | cortezdapimp: That's a damn good question. Maybe unpack some of the addons and look at their code? |
| [22:17:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Leebier|350HELP: Hosed how? |
| [22:17:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | it's got some bad info in there |
| [22:17:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | so once it starts trying to load services |
| [22:17:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | the display gets messed up and it appears to hang |
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| [22:17:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | (fedora hangs, the monitor isn't levitating and tying a noose) |
| [22:17:00] | ChrisMacTire: | hehe |
| [22:18:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | though once i get X running on my TV, i'd love to give that monitor such a treatment |
| [22:18:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Define the display gets messed up. Or let me. The liness are still readable but there're all offset by variable inset sized. |
| [22:18:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | yeah, that would be it |
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| [22:19:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | well, it's actually a regular pattern, but yeah |
| [22:19:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Same problem for me. It happens when you load ivtv-fb module. Or that's what causes it for me. |
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| [22:19:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | so how do i get to a terminal so that i can copy back the old version (which ran fine) |
| [22:20:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | ah wait |
| [22:20:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | i can do it remotely (it didn't work last time, i swear) |
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| [22:21:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Leebier|350HELP: Wait a sec. You say your display is fubared but where is X displayed? On your tv? |
| [22:21:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | currently X is on the monitor |
| [22:21:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | i'm trying to set up X on the TV (i have a 350) |
| [22:22:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Well, pray you have sshd enabled and log in remotly. |
| [22:22:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | yeah, i did |
| [22:22:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | it's rebooting normally now |
| [22:23:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | i guess i just didn't give it enough time to load sshd the first time i tried to log in |
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| [22:25:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | is there any particular reason we can't just call it pico? it drives me upthe wall that i use pico all day at work and then i come home and it tells me it's not a real program and i have to remember to use another SI abbreviation :) |
| [22:25:00] | ChrisMacTire: | ... |
| [22:26:00] | ChrisMacTire: | I'm sorry. I don't follow... Oh, you mean nano? Well, you can alias pico to nano if you'd like. That woud fix it. |
| [22:26:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Nano is more like a merge of emacs and pico, I think. |
| [22:27:00] | cortezdapimp: | afaik nano is just a GNU pico... |
| [22:27:00] | ** ChrisMacTire shrugs ** | |
| [22:27:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Emacs key bindings work, mostly, so I'm happy. |
| [22:27:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | yeah, i could alias it |
| [22:27:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | just one of those minor annoyances |
| [22:27:00] | cortezdapimp: | i have it mapped to laod nano cuz i had the same prob as you leeb |
| [22:27:00] | Leebier|350HELP: | when i want to edit a flie |
| [22:28:00] | ChrisMacTire: | But it wouldn't solve your real rage would it Leebier|350HELP? :) |
| [22:28:00] | cortezdapimp: | in os x its mapped automatically (panther and earlier used pico, tiger uses nano) |
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| [22:28:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | if i have two different screens (with different names, of course) in my xorg.conf file, will that work? |
| [22:29:00] | ChrisMacTire: | It should |
| [22:29:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | how will X decide which to run on? |
| [22:29:00] | ChrisMacTire: | I can dump my xorg.conf if you wanna see. |
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| [22:29:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | well, i have the one from jarrod |
| [22:29:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | but it doesn't work every time |
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| [22:29:00] | ChrisMacTire: | how are you loading ivtv-fb? |
| [22:29:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | so i'm trying appending his section about the pvr350 to my exisiting one (and renaming it to screen1) |
| [22:30:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | modprobe.conf? |
| [22:30:00] | ChrisMacTire: | what distro? |
| [22:30:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | fc3 |
| [22:30:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | lord, i almost sound like i know what i'm talking about |
| [22:31:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | and by doesn't work every time, i mean "never works", not "sometimes works sometimes doesn't" |
| [22:32:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Leebier|350Fixed: http://pastebin.ca/12916 |
| [22:33:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | that appears to be what i've got now |
| [22:34:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | however, cntl+alt+bckspce just took me back to login on the monitor |
| [22:34:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Alright. So lets hit the basics. You've tested ivtv module and it works? You've installed ivtvdev module? |
| [22:34:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | (which is far better than halfcrashing like it did before) |
| [22:34:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | yeah, right now, everythign works, myth even outputs shows to the tv |
| [22:35:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | it's just a matter of getting X on the tv |
| [22:35:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Well, you could remove the monitor from the config file and just leave teh tV. |
| [22:35:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | wait |
| [22:36:00] | ChrisMacTire: | That's what I did. I never used the monitor for anything. |
| [22:36:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | on the top section that is "ServerLayout" |
| [22:36:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | what would happen if i changed Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 |
| [22:36:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | to |
| [22:36:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | what would happen if i changed Screen 0 "Screen1" 0 0 |
| [22:36:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | (which is what i've called the TV screen |
| [22:36:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | ) |
| [22:36:00] | ChrisMacTire: | That might work. |
| [22:37:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | but it didn't :-p |
| [22:38:00] | ChrisMacTire: | My suggestion is to remove the monitor from you Xorg config. Don't give myth the choice. |
| [22:38:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | it's not myth that is making the wrong choice, it's X |
| [22:38:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | system is rebooting before i can try removing the monitor |
| [22:38:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | will tyr it next though |
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| [22:41:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | do i need to remove the monitor or just the screen that references it? |
| [22:42:00] | ChrisMacTire: | I think the screen. |
| [22:42:00] | ChrisMacTire: | You can just comment it out. |
| [22:42:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | yeah |
| [22:42:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | i was definately only going to do that :) |
| [22:42:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | i may not be a linux expert, but i've written enough SAS programs to know not to kill lines willy-nilly |
| [22:43:00] | ChrisMacTire: | sorry, just a suggestion |
| [22:44:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | dont' apologize, i was agreeing with you :) |
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| [22:47:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | shit |
| [22:48:00] | ChrisMacTire: | hmm? |
| [22:48:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | it would help if i entered the right BusID |
| [22:48:00] | ChrisMacTire: | that might |
| [22:48:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | and now it works |
| [22:49:00] | ChrisMacTire: | there you go |
| [22:51:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | awesome |
| [22:51:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | thanks for your help! |
| [22:51:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | now just to get the underscan set right |
| [22:51:00] | ChrisMacTire: | don't think I helped but no problem. |
| [22:51:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | well, i've tried to do this off and on for a year now |
| [22:51:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Leebier|350Fixed: Underscan? I may have a link for that. Hold on |
| [22:51:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | so you must have done something right :) |
| [22:52:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | well, i'm trying the options in Myth first |
| [22:53:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Leebier|350Fixed: http://www-isl.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de/~hi93/my . . . _walkthrough Skip to the section "Setup Mythfrontend" |
| [22:54:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | +8 x +8? |
| [22:54:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | like |
| [22:54:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | i want to turn it to OVERscan |
| [22:54:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Setup/Appearence: |
| [22:54:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Set gui size to something like: 648x544+50+15 |
| [22:54:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | even though the OSD is off the edge? |
| [22:55:00] | ChrisMacTire: | That fixes the problem of the myth menus being too wide. The On Scree Display during tv playback I haven't fixed. |
| [22:56:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | lol, and i just fixed the other |
| [22:56:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | for OSD, set overscan/underscan percentage to +8 for each |
| [22:57:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | that's what i saw in the document you sent me and it seems to work |
| [22:57:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | though i might actually turn it down a little to 7 or 6, looks like i have some room to spare |
| [22:57:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | so GUI size will fix the menus being offscreen? |
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| [23:00:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Yeah. My menus were so tall and wide I could barely do the config cause I could never tell if I had the select on next, back or cancel. IT was a pain. |
| [23:01:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | yeah |
| [23:01:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | ok, that worked |
| [23:01:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | mostly |
| [23:02:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | now the taskbar won't go behind the mythfrontend display |
| [23:02:00] | ChrisMacTire: | taskbar? You mean the titlebar at the top of the window? |
| [23:03:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | no |
| [23:03:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | sorry, maybe i'm speaking windoweese |
| [23:03:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | but with the fedora button, the list of programs, clock and system tray |
| [23:03:00] | ChrisMacTire: | perhaps. Waht window manager are you usign? |
| [23:03:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | kde |
| [23:03:00] | ChrisMacTire: | hahah |
| [23:03:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | i'm glad that amuses you |
| [23:03:00] | ChrisMacTire: | you have performance cycles to spare. |
| [23:04:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Sorry, I hate kde and gnome. |
| [23:04:00] | ChrisMacTire: | I prefer something much lighter for my tastes. |
| [23:04:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | well, unless you wanted to walk me through the entire process of setting up the box, then i'm going with what there's a well-documented walktrhough to use |
| [23:04:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | no matter how good or bad the window manager is :) |
| [23:05:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Well, I don't like Fedora either but I'm not walking you through a complete reinstall so... :) |
| [23:06:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | exactly :) |
| [23:06:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | hopefully a reboot will kill the taskbar |
| [23:06:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | if not, i'm sure KDE has some sort of auto-hide feature |
| [23:08:00] | ChrisMacTire: | probably, or you can just disable it or set the window as always on top or something. |
| [23:08:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | right, well, it was before, that's the weird thing |
| [23:08:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | i have a feeling playing with all the setting just borked it temporarily |
| [23:09:00] | ChrisMacTire: | hmm? |
| [23:09:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | well, the taskbar didn't appear until i started messing with the GUI settings |
| [23:09:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | so i wonder if when they're stable (as they will be from now until time immortal), it may be ne an issue |
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| [23:11:00] | ChrisMacTire: | try getting the size right, then doing a reboot. Maybe the taskbar displayed because myth no longer took the full screen? |
| [23:12:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | that's what i figured |
| [23:12:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | unfortuantely i needed to reboot fist since i couldn't see the bottom of the screen to check that edge :) |
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| [23:28:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Well, I'm off to do dishes and such. |
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| [23:50:00] | xris: | yay, first coat of stain is finally completed on the deck. just in time for it to rain tonight. heh. |
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| [23:52:00] | Cardoe: | xris: heh |
| [23:52:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | that's why you're supposed to use thomson's water seal, right? :) |
| [23:52:00] | xris: | Leebier|350Fixed: well, good deck stain should do the trick, too. esp. since the deck is at least 10 years old. |
| [23:52:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | ah, i don't know much about these things, just waht i learned from commercials |
| [23:53:00] | Leebier|350Fixed: | and in hte last year, my commercial viewing is very down :) |
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| [23:56:00] | Leebier|COMPLETE: | it's scanning my music folder, that's how little more i have to do :) |
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| [23:58:00] | kgbudz: | is there some sort of auto clean which goes thru your video directory |
| [23:58:00] | kgbudz: | and clears out nuv/png files |
| [23:58:00] | kgbudz: | which are no longer in your db? |
| [23:58:00] | kgbudz: | cause i have quite a few extra png files |
| [23:58:00] | kgbudz: | and a few extra nuv files |
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