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| [00:01:00] | Squidy: | ok |
| [00:03:00] | jd86: | nevermind i'm done. i give up |
| [00:04:00] | kormoc: | welp, that sucks. |
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| [00:09:00] | fryfrog: | Squidy: i don't think the bttv driver supports any mpeg2 cards, does it? |
| [00:11:00] | Squidy: | fryfrog, i dont know.. im trying a long time... but nothing to work :( |
| [00:11:00] | fryfrog: | did you search the intarweb to see what driver others use? |
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| [00:11:00] | Squidy: | no yet |
| [00:11:00] | Squidy: | not yet |
| [00:12:00] | fryfrog: | my first guess would be ivtv |
| [00:12:00] | fryfrog: | but, thats just a wild guess based on the fact that they are mpeg2 cards too :) |
| [00:14:00] | Squidy: | fryfrog, but my chip is conexant bt878a :/ |
| [00:14:00] | fryfrog: | ohhhhh |
| [00:15:00] | Squidy: | i think that this use bttv.. but i try others |
| [00:15:00] | Squidy: | ok |
| [00:15:00] | fryfrog: | no, wait |
| [00:16:00] | fryfrog: | <M> Conexant 2388x (bt878 successor) support |
| [00:16:00] | fryfrog: | do you have that selected in your kernel? |
| [00:16:00] | fryfrog: | under device drivers, multimedia, video for linux? |
| [00:18:00] | Squidy: | i dont have this |
| [00:18:00] | Squidy: | but all options in v4l are marked with <M> |
| [00:19:00] | fryfrog: | what kernel version? |
| [00:19:00] | Squidy: | 2.4.30 |
| [00:19:00] | fryfrog: | all i have are pvr250 cards, i picked them cause i knew they were well supported :( |
| [00:20:00] | fryfrog: | i don't really have any clue, asside from searching google to find out what driver they use |
| [00:20:00] | Squidy: | im serching now |
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| [00:29:00] | Squidy: | =( i hate this card... |
| [00:30:00] | fryfrog: | did you already have it, or buy it? |
| [00:38:00] | bigslam: | hmm |
| [00:39:00] | bigslam: | where can i get perl? |
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| [00:44:00] | xris: | bigslam: you need a new distro if it didn't come with perl |
| [00:45:00] | fryfrog: | ahahha |
| [00:46:00] | fryfrog: | wtf distro doesn't have perl ? |
| [00:46:00] | fryfrog: | bigslam: just use the package system to install *their* version of perl, i think you have to try really really really hard to find one that doesn't have perl |
| [00:46:00] | kormoc: | Squidy, if you really hate the card, feel free to mail it my way :P |
| [00:46:00] | fryfrog: | no no, me! i promise to shoot it with an ar15~ |
| [00:48:00] | bigslam: | hmm i thought i had it installed lol one min i might just need addons or something |
| [00:48:00] | bigslam: | yea i have it installed umm |
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| [00:53:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | argh! myth used to work, then i ugraded to latest cvs, now mythfrontend cant find the backend |
| [00:55:00] | fryfrog: | did you restart the backend? |
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| [01:20:00] | maddhaggis: | Hello Sports fans |
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| [01:42:00] | maddhaggis: | Hello? |
| [01:44:00] | maddhaggis: | nobody is talkin today??? Hmm they must all have perfectly running systems:) |
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| [01:48:00] | pyrodex: | is there a commandline option for mplayer to play back pal dvds at ntsc speeds with no issues or is that not going to happen? |
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| [01:52:00] | maddhaggis: | pyrodex you might have to re encode the pal files to ntsc. |
| [01:53:00] | pyrodex: | dang, thought there was some flag in mplayer to make it do it on the fly. |
| [01:58:00] | maddhaggis: | Nope Not that I know of. did you look at mplayer -h? |
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| [02:03:00] | maddhaggis: | Welcome home mchou:) |
| [02:04:00] | mchou: | haha, this is funny..... |
| [02:04:00] | maddhaggis: | Do tell |
| [02:04:00] | mchou: | taking viagara make you blind....Guess all those stories about spanking the monkey are true :) |
| [02:04:00] | kormoc|afk is now known as kormoc | |
| [02:05:00] | maddhaggis: | Where did you here this? |
| [02:05:00] | mchou: | Just heard on NPR :) |
| [02:05:00] | fryfrog: | i saw it on fark just now :) |
| [02:05:00] | maddhaggis: | hear?? |
| [02:05:00] | mchou: | maddhaggis: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4670195 |
| [02:06:00] | maddhaggis: | wow thats funny |
| [02:07:00] | maddhaggis: | mchou do you know if the lookup script for video files in mythvideo will work for an .iso? |
| [02:08:00] | mchou: | no idea, sorry. |
| [02:08:00] | maddhaggis: | dammit |
| [02:08:00] | maddhaggis: | thanks anyhoo |
| [02:10:00] | maddhaggis: | I create an iso extention under mythvideo setup but my command "xine -pfhq --no-splash dvd://%s" isnt working? any thoughts? |
| [02:11:00] | mchou: | you probably need to mount the iso vial loop device. Just a swag |
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| [02:13:00] | maddhaggis: | but if I set my default video player to "xine -pfhq --no-splash dvd://%s" it works....but that kills any chance of viewing other file types. |
| [02:13:00] | Leebier (~chatzilla@12-216-244-136.client.mchsi.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [02:15:00] | maddhaggis: | right now my default viewer is set to "xine -pfhq --no-splash %s" and my iso file type command is set to "xine -pfhq --no-splash dvd://%s" |
| [02:15:00] | maddhaggis: | and now worky |
| [02:16:00] | maddhaggis: | I mean NO WORKEY |
| [02:17:00] | ** maddhaggis is frustrated ** | |
| [02:18:00] | mchou: | I think you need some viagara :) |
| [02:18:00] | ** maddhaggis pops a couple o' VIAGRA ** | |
| [02:20:00] | mchou: | ok, see you in about 1 hr :) |
| [02:20:00] | maddhaggis: | AGGGHHHH!!!! I'M BLIND!!!!! |
| [02:20:00] | fryfrog: | mchou: so... an hour after he takes the pill (when its kicking in) you are going to go visit maddhaggis ? |
| [02:20:00] | mchou: | yeah, but you no longer frustrated. |
| [02:21:00] | mchou: | fryfrog: I dont swing that way :) |
| [02:21:00] | fryfrog: | i sure hope that one or both of you are really hot chicks :) |
| [02:21:00] | fryfrog: | and in the case of both of you being really hot chicks, i sure hope you have a free webcam site! |
| [02:21:00] | mchou: | speaking of hot chicks, that female indy chick driver is HOT! |
| [02:21:00] | fryfrog: | anyone ever watch "Evanglion"? |
| [02:22:00] | ** maddhaggis is now blind but curiously satisfied ** | |
| [02:22:00] | mchou: | check her out: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4669584 |
| [02:27:00] | ** rpete thinks jimmy spencer is a hottie ** | |
| [02:28:00] | fryfrog: | that is a very cruel page sir |
| [02:28:00] | mchou: | fryfrog: huh??? |
| [02:28:00] | fryfrog: | SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE! |
| [02:28:00] | fryfrog: | do you see that picture of the OMG WTF woman? |
| [02:29:00] | mchou: | fryfrog: lol, I wasnt referring to that one :) |
| [02:29:00] | fryfrog: | its like "mmm, hot..." scroll scroll "mmmm ACK!!!!" |
| [02:30:00] | fryfrog: | wow, the first indy 500 took 6 hours to complete |
| [02:30:00] | fryfrog: | last years took 3 hours :) |
| [02:31:00] | mchou: | actually closer to 7 hrs. |
| [02:31:00] | fryfrog: | oh yeah, dang you are right |
| [02:31:00] | fryfrog: | thats a big speed icnrease |
| [02:31:00] | rpete: | mchou, if you like fast women, http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcracing/mcphotos/katja01.jpg |
| [02:32:00] | fryfrog: | i've been playing Forza Motorsports, its fun :) |
| [02:32:00] | fryfrog: | wow, she has good balance! |
| [02:32:00] | mchou: | fryfrog: hmm, hot..... |
| [02:32:00] | fryfrog: | that was rpete not me :) |
| [02:32:00] | rpete: | katja poensgen |
| [02:32:00] | mchou: | rpete: sorry |
| [02:32:00] | fryfrog: | my favorite is http://asiacarrera.com/ :) |
| [02:33:00] | mchou: | either of them can shift my gears anytime :) |
| [02:33:00] | fryfrog: | haha |
| [02:34:00] | gnarface: | i dunno |
| [02:34:00] | gnarface: | asiacarrera is okay |
| [02:34:00] | gnarface: | just okay |
| [02:34:00] | mchou: | yeah, asia is not a catch. |
| [02:34:00] | gnarface: | this is the evil goddess of temptation though: http://www.iamtrouble.com/ |
| [02:34:00] | fryfrog: | i dunno, i think she's pretty hard to beat |
| [02:34:00] | j-rod is now known as j-rod|afk | |
| [02:34:00] | gnarface: | lol |
| [02:34:00] | fryfrog: | computer dork AND porn star? |
| [02:34:00] | fryfrog: | rich? |
| [02:34:00] | gnarface: | masuimi max |
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| [02:35:00] | gnarface: | nothing beats her live shows |
| [02:35:00] | gnarface: | you'll never love again after seeing her bathe in milk. |
| [02:35:00] | fryfrog: | ahhahaha |
| [02:35:00] | fryfrog: | porn star? |
| [02:36:00] | fryfrog: | (blocked by websense, so i have to assume yes?) |
| [02:36:00] | gnarface: | yea |
| [02:36:00] | gnarface: | lol. |
| [02:36:00] | gnarface: | yea |
| [02:36:00] | kormoc: | so she bathes in milk and I'll never love again cause it's so aweful eh? |
| [02:36:00] | fryfrog: | i've got an asian fetish though :/ |
| [02:36:00] | gnarface: | seriously |
| [02:36:00] | gnarface: | go see one of her live shows |
| [02:36:00] | fryfrog: | is she white or? |
| [02:37:00] | gnarface: | oh, she's asian |
| [02:37:00] | gnarface: | but its not about that |
| [02:37:00] | fryfrog: | oh, mmmm! |
| [02:37:00] | Leebier: | i think this is a bit OT, but is there a way to get FC1 to play nice with a monitor that maxes at 800x600? |
| [02:37:00] | gnarface: | its about the fact that she's... unreal. |
| [02:37:00] | fryfrog: | Leebier: just set X to 800x600 sir? |
| [02:37:00] | gnarface: | Leebier ctrl-alt-num+ |
| [02:37:00] | fryfrog: | speeking of resolutions, is there some place to find the native resolution of a tv so you can decide what to set your pc to when hooked up to say, a sony widescreen tv? |
| [02:38:00] | Leebier: | gnar, thanks! |
| [02:38:00] | Leebier: | i forgot to mention that i was just getting horrorendously scrolling lines all over |
| [02:38:00] | Leebier: | making it impossible to navigate anything |
| [02:38:00] | fryfrog: | you can use ctrl-alt-F1 to get to a console |
| [02:38:00] | fryfrog: | then alt-F7 (usually) to get back to X |
| [02:38:00] | gnarface: | Leebier ctrl-alt-num+ and ctrl-alt-num- are your friends. |
| [02:39:00] | fryfrog: | assuming you have an 800x600 in your screen size definitions :) |
| [02:39:00] | gnarface: | sony sidescreen? check the manual |
| [02:39:00] | gnarface: | normal tv's should all accept ntsc though |
| [02:39:00] | gnarface: | look up resolution and refresh rates of NTSC stanard |
| [02:39:00] | fryfrog: | no, i mean like from DVI / HDMI input |
| [02:39:00] | gnarface: | what is it again 648x484 or something like thaT? |
| [02:39:00] | Leebier: | gnar- awesome, i only need it hooked up to this monitor to reinstall FC (3) and everything else until the point when i hook it back up to the TV |
| [02:40:00] | fryfrog: | its a 16:9 tv |
| [02:40:00] | fryfrog: | so i assume its probably like 1280x720 or something |
| [02:41:00] | Leebier: | hey, here's another OT question, i'm in the market for notebooks and no one in town carries any notebooks with a resolution above 1024x768 (XGA) and its WXGA equivilent, anyone think it's worth the cash for a higher resolution or does 1024 suffice on that size screen? my CRTS are 19" and 13", making it tough to visualize 1024 on a 15" |
| [02:42:00] | fryfrog: | Leebier: it probably really depends on how you plan to use the laptop |
| [02:42:00] | fryfrog: | you usually sit much closer to a laptop, so 1024 on a 15" screen isn't to bad |
| [02:43:00] | Leebier: | well , true. 95% office and internet apps, i'm just spoiled by having so much work space on my desktop |
| [02:44:00] | Leebier: | but i wonder if it's a waste ot get a notebook with a nice video card for the occasional time i DO game if i can't run higher than 1024, plus i'm used to seeing so much of my spreadsheet on screen at one time :) |
| [02:45:00] | fryfrog: | if money is no object, get a nice WS laptop with like 1280x720 or so |
| [02:45:00] | fryfrog: | a good video card in it never hurts, but i think its probably hard to find one w/o a gf2go or ati mobility tyhpe chpi now? |
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| [02:47:00] | Leebier: | oh, there are plenty with shitty intel chips in 'em |
| [02:48:00] | Leebier: | though i think i've narrowed it to ones w/ nVidea or ATi chips |
| [02:49:00] | Leebier: | but the resolutions, optical drives, and HDs vary (well, i can make them equal but then the prices skyrocket in a couple of 'em) |
| [02:49:00] | fryfrog: | guess it all depends on what you wanna do :) |
| [02:49:00] | fryfrog: | i'm not a big fan of laptops cause they are so limiting |
| [02:49:00] | fryfrog: | but i think you can get "whitebox" laptops now-a-days |
| [02:49:00] | Leebier: | well, i entirely agree with you |
| [02:50:00] | fryfrog: | that let you pick a few components |
| [02:50:00] | fryfrog: | like cpu, ram, hd, video on your own |
| [02:50:00] | fryfrog: | like a generic laptop chassis |
| [02:50:00] | Leebier: | however, i'm going to be in europe for a year, so i can't bring the desktop (or the mythbox :( ) with me |
| [02:50:00] | fryfrog: | but i dont really know anything about em |
| [02:50:00] | fryfrog: | looks like the Sony KV-30HS420 does 1280x720 in progressive mode |
| [02:51:00] | Leebier: | sony is the one line i haven't checked out yet |
| [02:51:00] | fryfrog: | but you need to use powerstrip or ati/nvidia tools to pick a lower resoltuion |
| [02:51:00] | Leebier: | will have to do that later tonight |
| [02:51:00] | Leebier: | but now i'm off for a pint :) |
| [02:51:00] | fryfrog: | sorry, that was a 30" WS CRT TV :) |
| [02:53:00] | Leebier: | be back in a pint or two, then on to reinstalling FC and myth |
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| [03:10:00] | maddhaggis: | HMM all is quiet again |
| [03:11:00] | ** maddhaggis likes pizza ** | |
| [03:11:00] | maddhaggis: | yummy |
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| [03:28:00] | fryfrog: | PVR150 counts as MPEG2 (pvr 250/350) in mythsetup, yes? |
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| [03:33:00] | Squidy: | hi.. in /usr/src/linux-2.4.30/Documentation/video4linux/bttv/CARDLIST i saw only 41 tuners.. and i think that my tuner is 43... |
| [03:34:00] | fryfrog: | maybe its time to patch your tuner.h/c file? |
| [03:34:00] | fryfrog: | or switch to a 2.6.11 kernel? |
| [03:34:00] | Squidy: | yeah,, i think that i try to switch to 2.6.11 kernel |
| [03:35:00] | fryfrog: | my pvr250 has a tuner type of 49 on it, back in 2.6.9 i had to patch my tuner.h and tuner.c files |
| [03:35:00] | fryfrog: | but 2.6.10 added support for up to like type 51 or so |
| [03:35:00] | Squidy: | how you patch your tuner.h and tuner.c files? |
| [03:35:00] | fryfrog: | just make some changes to the file |
| [03:35:00] | fryfrog: | i found the patches at the ivtv site |
| [03:36:00] | fryfrog: | but its probably easier to just switch to 2.6.11 kernel |
| [03:36:00] | fryfrog: | unless you had some reason to use 2.4.30? |
| [03:37:00] | Squidy: | no.. no.. ill try to switch this kernel |
| [03:37:00] | Squidy: | :) |
| [03:37:00] | fryfrog: | don't hose your system! |
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| [03:38:00] | Squidy: | :) |
| [03:41:00] | alainm: | is there anything better than using KnoppMyth? |
| [03:42:00] | Agrajag-: | imo anything that isn't knoppmyth is better than knoppmyth |
| [03:42:00] | alainm: | oh really |
| [03:42:00] | Agrajag-: | well i guess it's sort of ok if you want to test your hardware or whatever |
| [03:42:00] | alainm: | so would i be better off setting up Myth on a linux box? |
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| [03:43:00] | Agrajag-: | but if you actually want a system that you can upgrade easily and stuff, doing it on a 'real' distro would be nicer |
| [03:43:00] | alainm: | yeh.. i was thinking that also.. |
| [03:43:00] | alainm: | i tried the knoppmyth way.. it's not working still.. |
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| [03:44:00] | jasoncohen: | Agrajag-, what's wrong with Knoppix? |
| [03:45:00] | alainm: | knoppix is good.. we were talking about Knoppmyth |
| [03:45:00] | jasoncohen: | Agrajag-, btw, thanks for your help before getting mythtv to compile on my debian box. I now have my mythtv system successfully up and running on my 27" TV. with near perfect video quality on my two tuners. MythTV is much better on a TV then a monitor, heh |
| [03:46:00] | alainm: | what card do you have? |
| [03:46:00] | jasoncohen: | alainm, sorry about that. I was actually referring to KnoppMyth, not Knoppix. |
| [03:46:00] | alainm: | ah |
| [03:46:00] | alainm: | :) |
| [03:46:00] | Agrajag-: | jasoncohen: if it works out of the box, it's fine.. but i dont think it would in a lot of cases, and if it doesn't, it's a lot easier to use a normal installed distro to get things working |
| [03:47:00] | jasoncohen: | alainm, a pvr-250MCE and a hauppauge wintv bttv card with btaudio for digital sound |
| [03:47:00] | alainm: | wow |
| [03:47:00] | jasoncohen: | Agrajag-, i never was even able to install KnoppMyth on a dual-boot system. it installed but wouldn't boot. |
| [03:48:00] | jasoncohen: | i guess it's really for a fresh install with a minimum of configuration |
| [03:48:00] | alainm: | yeh |
| [03:48:00] | jasoncohen: | Agrajag-, i'm glad i chose to use debian for mythtv. So far I'm having none of the strange issues I had with Mandrake. Everything is running great. |
| [03:48:00] | alainm: | i will give it another shot this weekend.. otherwise. |
| [03:49:00] | alainm: | going to build my ubuntu system and try installing myth on that |
| [03:49:00] | jasoncohen: | alainm, there's an ubuntu install guide you can use off mythtv.info |
| [03:49:00] | jasoncohen: | i used it when i installed on hoary |
| [03:50:00] | alainm: | oh really.. whats the link? |
| [03:50:00] | alainm: | do you know? |
| [03:50:00] | jasoncohen: | one sec |
| [03:50:00] | jasoncohen: | http://mythtv.info/moin.cgi/UbuntuInstallation |
| [03:51:00] | jasoncohen: | it's fairly straight-forward to find from the main page on mythtv.info but there you are anyways |
| [03:51:00] | alainm: | GOLDEN.. thank you so much |
| [03:51:00] | jasoncohen: | btw, i've had some problems getting ivtv to compile properly |
| [03:51:00] | maddhaggis: | Umm I still need some help here guys |
| [03:51:00] | jasoncohen: | i wasn't able to get 0.20rc3j to compile properly in debian testing |
| [03:52:00] | jasoncohen: | i'm using .0.2.0rc2f with the firmware on the ubuntu howto. you can also try the recommended firmware on ivtv.tv |
| [03:52:00] | maddhaggis: | does anyone know if the lookup script for video files in mythvideo will work for an .iso? |
| [03:52:00] | jasoncohen: | don't give up if you have problems with ivtv. just try different driver and firmware versions until it works |
| [03:52:00] | jasoncohen: | maddhaggis, you want to add an .iso to mythvideo..why? |
| [03:53:00] | maddhaggis: | for dvds |
| [03:53:00] | jasoncohen: | i'm not following. you can't play an iso and mythvideo doesn't burn dvds |
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| [03:55:00] | maddhaggis: | don't want to burn dvd's and I use xine. I just want to access all my dvd's fron one central location. |
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| [03:58:00] | djperegrine: | would installing myth on a 400mhz box be crazy ? |
| [03:58:00] | alainm: | i would say so |
| [03:58:00] | djperegrine: | hrm |
| [03:58:00] | djperegrine: | dammit >< |
| [03:58:00] | iggy: | if you have a hardware encoder, it could work |
| [03:58:00] | iggy: | but disks would probably be the most limiting factor in a 400mhz system |
| [03:59:00] | maddhaggis: | t'would be ok for mythmusic |
| [03:59:00] | djperegrine: | its 40 gigs I bieleve |
| [03:59:00] | iggy: | I meant speed, not size |
| [03:59:00] | djperegrine: | oh |
| [03:59:00] | iggy: | although size is important too |
| [03:59:00] | djperegrine: | I think the harddrive is realtivly new |
| [03:59:00] | iggy: | no matter what she tells you |
| [03:59:00] | LLyric: | Myth works okay on my 600Mhz box |
| [03:59:00] | djperegrine: | Its a dam nice PC though for its speed |
| [04:00:00] | djperegrine: | rome total war works |
| [04:00:00] | LLyric: | Using pvr-350 (hardware encode/decode) |
| [04:00:00] | djperegrine: | kind of :P |
| [04:00:00] | LLyric: | But it can't play avi/divx through the pvr-350 (it sucks for that) |
| [04:00:00] | djperegrine: | Yea I am going to be buying hardware for this |
| [04:00:00] | LLyric: | <20% cpu load recording and playing |
| [04:00:00] | djperegrine: | so what should I buy |
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| [04:01:00] | maddhaggis: | I have an extra hollywood+ mpeg decoder card....Should I use it? |
| [04:01:00] | iggy: | I'd spend a little extra, and get a fry's special motherboard+sempron, and a 150 instead of trying to make the 400 work with a 350 |
| [04:01:00] | djperegrine: | Well I don't want to spend to much |
| [04:02:00] | djperegrine: | like 150 max |
| [04:02:00] | djperegrine: | and I don't have a tvtuner |
| [04:02:00] | LLyric: | Not sure. I'd probably get I think an EPIA board with video out and a slot for hardware encoder (150 or 250 I guess?) |
| [04:02:00] | iggy: | well, a 150 is ~70 |
| [04:02:00] | iggy: | then 80 for a mb/cpu |
| [04:02:00] | jasoncohen: | iggy, how great is pvr-150 support currently? |
| [04:02:00] | iggy: | jasoncohen: WORKSFORME |
| [04:02:00] | kormoc: | djperegrine, it's gonna be iffy if it works, and like, if it doesn't work, you're out the cash. |
| [04:02:00] | iggy: | I've actually been using both of my 150's since the end of February |
| [04:02:00] | jasoncohen: | 80 for mobo+ cpu?? |
| [04:03:00] | djperegrine: | Yea no way |
| [04:03:00] | iggy: | jasoncohen: I said fry's special |
| [04:03:00] | djperegrine: | Still |
| [04:03:00] | jasoncohen: | damn..that's cheap |
| [04:03:00] | maddhaggis: | I just returned my PVR500 cause it isn't compatable w/ my 64bit asus mobo....grrr |
| [04:03:00] | djperegrine: | Plus I would rather not hack up the box to much |
| [04:03:00] | Beirdo: | YAY |
| [04:04:00] | djperegrine: | like what tv tuner should I get ? |
| [04:04:00] | Beirdo: | my fuckin computers at home decided to go on vacation too. |
| [04:04:00] | Beirdo: | bitches |
| [04:04:00] | ** maddhaggis pours benzine on his VIA chipset. ** | |
| [04:04:00] | gnarface: | ponder fried eggs on it. |
| [04:04:00] | jasoncohen: | Beirdo, huh? |
| [04:05:00] | kormoc: | Welcome back Beirdo |
| [04:05:00] | kormoc: | that was a fast trip |
| [04:05:00] | Beirdo: | I'm not back |
| [04:05:00] | jasoncohen: | damn..i purchased my amd 2700+ a long time ago and the prices still haven't dropped that much |
| [04:05:00] | Beirdo: | I'm in Nashville :) |
| [04:05:00] | kormoc: | hehe, sorta figured :P |
| [04:05:00] | jasoncohen: | you went south Beirdo? |
| [04:05:00] | Beirdo: | and my home network is fubar |
| [04:05:00] | Beirdo: | it crapped just as my flight took off |
| [04:06:00] | jasoncohen: | Beirdo, get a chance to check out Vanderbilt? The campus is beautiful. |
| [04:06:00] | iggy: | http://shop1.outpost.com/product/4202624?site . . . MAIN_RSLT_PG |
| [04:06:00] | iggy: | $75 you bitches |
| [04:06:00] | iggy: | take that |
| [04:06:00] | maddhaggis: | Beirdo: do you know if the lookup script for video files in mythvideo will work for an .iso? (DVD backup) |
| [04:07:00] | jasoncohen: | iggy, cool |
| [04:07:00] | Beirdo: | maddhaggis: I dunno, use the source |
| [04:07:00] | djperegrine: | Oh also I want this hooked up to a accually tv |
| [04:07:00] | djperegrine: | is that possible? |
| [04:07:00] | djperegrine: | without it being shittie ? |
| [04:07:00] | jasoncohen: | iggy, how does a sempron 2500+ compare to a 2700+ XP? |
| [04:07:00] | iggy: | more alcohol, brb |
| [04:07:00] | maddhaggis: | Beirdo: what do you mean? |
| [04:08:00] | iggy: | jasoncohen: it's likely slower, but I'd imagine cooler |
| [04:08:00] | jasoncohen: | holy crap....a 300 GB drive for $120 |
| [04:08:00] | jasoncohen: | damn |
| [04:08:00] | fryfrog: | jasoncohen: they are based on the amd64's type cores, so it'd prolly be a little faster |
| [04:08:00] | fryfrog: | or maybe it isn't? |
| [04:08:00] | iggy: | it kinda depends on the core, the semprons come in so many different shapes and sizes.... |
| [04:08:00] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [04:08:00] | jasoncohen: | is there an advantage to the 64 bit chips at this time for most purposes? |
| [04:08:00] | jasoncohen: | they're certainly pricey |
| [04:08:00] | fryfrog: | not the 64bit part |
| [04:08:00] | iggy: | 140 for a 3000+ |
| [04:09:00] | iggy: | that's not bad |
| [04:09:00] | kormoc: | they do have some advantages in calculating certain things. |
| [04:09:00] | Beirdo: | maddhaggis: I mean go read the source |
| [04:09:00] | Beirdo: | duh |
| [04:09:00] | fryfrog: | the 939 amd64 2800–3200 aren't to expensive |
| [04:09:00] | djperegrine: | can someone give me links to amazon what tvtuner and other hardware I should get ? |
| [04:09:00] | fryfrog: | they are very fast, but its more to do with chip advances than being 64bit :) |
| [04:09:00] | jasoncohen: | heh, i'm fine with my 2700+ at this point. It just seems like things haven't changed that much with CPU spec |
| [04:09:00] | jasoncohen: | *specs |
| [04:09:00] | kormoc: | djperegrine, amazon is not the place to buy computer hardware... |
| [04:09:00] | djperegrine: | I mean so I can shit about it |
| [04:10:00] | fryfrog: | djperegrine: i like newegg myself, a pvr150 or 250 would be a good tv card choice |
| [04:10:00] | jasoncohen: | lol, i actually found amazon customer service to be quite good |
| [04:10:00] | fryfrog: | djperegrine: you could always ebay an old bttv based card for like $5 for testing |
| [04:10:00] | djperegrine: | lol |
| [04:10:00] | kormoc: | a bttv card won't work in a 400 mhz. period. |
| [04:10:00] | maddhaggis: | I have a athlon64 FX $815 monster....decodes HD at less that 17% cpu like a mofo. |
| [04:11:00] | fryfrog: | no, but you can still use it for testing |
| [04:11:00] | jasoncohen: | UPS was supposed to re-route a package and like usual they fucked up. Amazon sent a replacement next day air at no cost to me and i don't even have to worry about the original (which btw never arrived!) |
| [04:11:00] | iggy: | if you get amd64, get the winchester or venis core |
| [04:11:00] | iggy: | they use very little power |
| [04:11:00] | fryfrog: | pensi? |
| [04:11:00] | rjune_away: | fryfrog: sempron is slower than athlon |
| [04:11:00] | iggy: | which means slower fans |
| [04:11:00] | iggy: | which means less noise |
| [04:11:00] | fryfrog: | sempron is slower than amd64 |
| [04:11:00] | djperegrine: | PVR150 works out of the box ? |
| [04:11:00] | iggy: | which means more enjoyable tv |
| [04:12:00] | djperegrine: | I want something that won't be a pain to load drivers etc |
| [04:12:00] | iggy: | djperegrine: nothing ever works out of the box |
| [04:12:00] | fryfrog: | but i think they are fairly comparable to the XP cpus, depending on speed |
| [04:12:00] | djperegrine: | lol |
| [04:12:00] | rjune_away: | Uhm, why do we want amd64 for a mythbox? maybe for the backend, but not for int he living room |
| [04:12:00] | jasoncohen: | djperegrine, the pvr250 doesn't work out of the box. you have to compile the ivtv driver |
| [04:12:00] | fryfrog: | i'd say that a PVR250 (or 250MCE) would be the best no-hassltes bet |
| [04:12:00] | jasoncohen: | the only thing that'll work out of the box is a bttv card |
| [04:12:00] | iggy: | rjune_away: why not? |
| [04:12:00] | jasoncohen: | as the driver is stable and mature and should already be a loadable module for nearly every distro |
| [04:13:00] | iggy: | jasoncohen: even they require manual settings for cardtype, etc. in most cases |
| [04:13:00] | jasoncohen: | iggy, they used to..not now |
| [04:13:00] | djperegrine: | is PVR250 better then the 150 ? |
| [04:13:00] | kormoc: | jasoncohen, depends on the card... |
| [04:13:00] | iggy: | the one I have does |
| [04:13:00] | rjune_away: | iggy: personally? fans, etc. I would just as soon use a Celeron 1200 in my living room |
| [04:13:00] | jasoncohen: | iggy, i used to have to manually set type 2 or i would get b/w video |
| [04:13:00] | fryfrog: | djperegrine: no, just older and better supported |
| [04:13:00] | iggy: | rjune_away: my amd64 that's sitting right next to me is barely audible |
| [04:13:00] | kormoc: | jasoncohen, as well as, he wants to put it in a 400 mhz box, there's no way in hell a bttv card will run in a 400 mhz box. no way in hell. |
| [04:13:00] | djperegrine: | ok |
| [04:13:00] | fryfrog: | djperegrine: i'd actually call the PVR150 better, if you don't mind trying to get it working that'd be a fine pick |
| [04:14:00] | jasoncohen: | iggy, in mandrake 10+, debian and ubuntu hoary it was autodetected fine |
| [04:14:00] | jasoncohen: | kormoc, of course not but he asked what would work out of the box |
| [04:14:00] | jasoncohen: | kormoc, just not in his box |
| [04:14:00] | djperegrine: | Yea I will prob use debian or gentoo |
| [04:14:00] | jasoncohen: | anyways a pvr-250 card might take a little bit longer to setup but it will be better over all in 99% of cases |
| [04:14:00] | djperegrine: | I need to reformat everything anyway |
| [04:14:00] | iggy: | jasoncohen: that's why I said most cases, I think most bttv cards don't have eeproms, so they are impossible to setup completely automatically |
| [04:15:00] | kormoc: | jasoncohen, my bttv card still doesn't get auto detected correctly, even today and it's just a pixelview pro, a very common card. |
| [04:15:00] | jasoncohen: | even on my 2700+ i couldn't watch a show while recording 2...it slowed to a crawl and skipped like crazy |
| [04:15:00] | jasoncohen: | even when just recording 2 shows the menus slowed down |
| [04:15:00] | djperegrine: | Tivo's cannot even record a show and have you watch live tv right ? |
| [04:15:00] | kormoc: | dual tuner tivo's can |
| [04:15:00] | djperegrine: | so a hacked up one can :P |
| [04:16:00] | jasoncohen: | kormoc, huh- both my hauppauge wintv and my old leadtek 2000xp were auto-detected (but they were both tuner 2) |
| [04:16:00] | iggy: | they sell dual tuner tivos |
| [04:16:00] | kormoc: | jasoncohen, mine's a tuner 2 as well, it's detected as a tuner 3 and a wintv card, when it's not at all. |
| [04:16:00] | djperegrine: | ah |
| [04:16:00] | iggy: | jasoncohen: I have an ati tv wonder that doesn't get auto detected, so it depends on the card |
| [04:16:00] | jasoncohen: | the max HD size on a tivo would annoy me. I have 400 GB for mythtv currently and i'll probably add a 300 GB drive when prices go down |
| [04:17:00] | jasoncohen: | iggy, wait...i thought the ati tv wonder doesn't work |
| [04:17:00] | ** iggy strokes his 4x200G raid5 array ** | |
| [04:17:00] | fryfrog: | jasoncohen: you can hack new HDs into tivo |
| [04:17:00] | iggy: | jasoncohen: WORKSFORME |
| [04:17:00] | ** fryfrog strokes his 14x75G raid5 + hotspare array ** | |
| [04:17:00] | djperegrine: | Also are there any major glitchs ? |
| [04:17:00] | iggy: | jasoncohen: maybe you are thinking all-in-wonder |
| [04:17:00] | jasoncohen: | fryfrog, yeah, but 400 is the largest size available and that's quite expensive |
| [04:17:00] | djperegrine: | like something that I should know |
| [04:17:00] | jasoncohen: | fryfrog, i have 3 160GBs and an 80 and i can add up to two more drives |
| [04:18:00] | bigslam: | how do i check what kernel im running? |
| [04:18:00] | jasoncohen: | and that's simply with a $30 ide controller |
| [04:18:00] | fryfrog: | $ uname-a |
| [04:18:00] | fryfrog: | erk |
| [04:18:00] | fryfrog: | "uname -a |
| [04:18:00] | djperegrine: | but it looks sexual :P |
| [04:19:00] | jasoncohen: | uname -r ? |
| [04:19:00] | fryfrog: | christ, has anyone seen Gungrave? |
| [04:19:00] | bigslam: | 2.6 k |
| [04:19:00] | fryfrog: | i can't figure out wtf its about |
| [04:19:00] | jasoncohen: | iggy, how much did you pay for your 800 GB RAID 5? |
| [04:20:00] | fryfrog: | how is 4x200G raid5 800G? |
| [04:20:00] | LLyric: | It aint 800GB |
| [04:20:00] | fryfrog: | i think you mean 600G :) |
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| [04:20:00] | jasoncohen: | oh..i thought it was 4 data drives and one hotswap |
| [04:20:00] | fryfrog: | of course, thanks to marketing speak its prolly more like 550G |
| [04:20:00] | LLyric: | raid isn't hotswap either |
| [04:20:00] | LLyric: | not just hotswap |
| [04:20:00] | fryfrog: | raid 5 gives you (N-1)*drive size of space |
| [04:21:00] | jasoncohen: | yeah |
| [04:21:00] | jasoncohen: | i thought he had 5 200 GB drives |
| [04:21:00] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [04:21:00] | bigslam: | has anyone here compiled dvb drivers before? |
| [04:21:00] | jasoncohen: | lol, i'm living on the edge with my 400 GB LVM. if any drive goes i lose my videos. |
| [04:21:00] | djperegrine: | yay knoppmyth |
| [04:22:00] | jasoncohen: | heh, but my system partitions are on another drive |
| [04:22:00] | djperegrine: | is knoppmyth evil ? |
| [04:22:00] | fryfrog: | jasoncohen: prolly not, you should be able to recover everything that isn't on the HD that fails |
| [04:22:00] | bigslam: | /home/bigslam/linuxtv-dvb-1.1.1/build-2.6/dvb_net.c: In function `dvb_net_eth_type_trans': |
| [04:22:00] | bigslam: | /home/bigslam/linuxtv-dvb-1.1.1/build-2.6/dvb_net.c:81: error: union has no member named `ethernet' |
| [04:22:00] | jasoncohen: | fryfrog, really...i was told i couldn't |
| [04:22:00] | fryfrog: | if you care enough to bother |
| [04:22:00] | bigslam: | whats that mean? |
| [04:22:00] | jasoncohen: | fryfrog, how would i do that? |
| [04:22:00] | fryfrog: | hummm |
| [04:23:00] | fryfrog: | well, you'd use LVM's tools to pull the failed drive out of the VG, bring up the VG then mount it |
| [04:23:00] | fryfrog: | of course, some shit on the failed part of the VG won't be available |
| [04:23:00] | fryfrog: | if you are using anything modern, you should run SMART monitoring tools |
| [04:24:00] | bigslam: | who me? |
| [04:24:00] | fryfrog: | it'll give you a good idea if a drive is about to fail, then you can LVM to clear the blocks off the failing drive, replace it, then expand it |
| [04:24:00] | fryfrog: | bigslam: no, jasoncohen |
| [04:24:00] | jasoncohen: | ok |
| [04:26:00] | jasoncohen: | fryfrog, should i have smartd run as a service on boot? |
| [04:26:00] | djperegrine: | Ok so is it worth the 120 bucks for a pvr-250 if I only have a 400 mhz machine ? |
| [04:26:00] | Beirdo: | so my trac stuff will be inaccessable for a week while I'm away |
| [04:26:00] | Beirdo: | stupid computers |
| [04:30:00] | djperegrine: | hrmn |
| [04:30:00] | bigslam: | so can anyone help me on this ? |
| [04:30:00] | bigslam: | /home/bigslam/linuxtv-dvb-1.1.1/build-2.6/dvb_net.c: In function `dvb_net_eth_type_trans': |
| [04:30:00] | bigslam: | /home/bigslam/linuxtv-dvb-1.1.1/build-2.6/dvb_net.c:81: error: union has no member named `ethernet' |
| [04:34:00] | djperegrine: | hrm |
| [04:35:00] | djperegrine: | get gentoo :D |
| [04:35:00] | bigslam: | i didnt ask that |
| [04:35:00] | djperegrine: | lol but I dunnoo I am would guess a dependicy problem like you don't have a lib or somethhing |
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| [04:36:00] | bigslam: | so why wouldnt gentoo do the same thing? |
| [04:36:00] | djperegrine: | no |
| [04:36:00] | djperegrine: | emerge installs all the dependicys for you |
| [04:37:00] | djperegrine: | like if foo depends on bla it downloads and compiles foo for you |
| [04:37:00] | djperegrine: | and bla |
| [04:37:00] | djperegrine: | so if you did emerge foo it would download and compile bla first |
| [04:39:00] | rpete: | bigslam, what version kernel do you have? |
| [04:39:00] | bigslam: | 2.6 |
| [04:40:00] | rpete: | full version? |
| [04:40:00] | bigslam: | its fedora |
| [04:40:00] | bigslam: | core 3 |
| [04:40:00] | rpete: | 2.6.???? |
| [04:40:00] | bigslam: | yea |
| [04:40:00] | rpete: | what is the ???? |
| [04:40:00] | bigslam: | Kernel 2.6 |
| [04:41:00] | rpete: | okay, I give up, 2.6.8 skbuff.h has the union member |
| [04:41:00] | rpete: | that's all I'll say about this |
| [04:42:00] | bigslam: | [bigslam@localhost build-2.6]$ uname -a |
| [04:42:00] | bigslam: | Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.11–1.27_FC3 #1 Tue May 17 20:27:37 EDT 2005 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux |
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| [04:42:00] | shadh0e: | im having some problems building mythplugins |
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| [04:43:00] | shadhoe: | looks like the ./configure is having problems finding some kde stuff |
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| [04:44:00] | shadhoe: | and its while it is tryign to configure the browser stuff |
| [04:44:00] | shadhoe: | looks like the files its looking for is also in one of the include paths |
| [04:44:00] | shadhoe: | anyone have some ideas? |
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| [04:59:00] | rpete: | bigslam, I see that 2.6.11 struct sk_buff does indeed omit the mac union ethernet member |
| [05:02:00] | rpete: | bigslam, I'd say it's just a case of linuxtv being not quite up-to-date |
| [05:02:00] | rpete: | bigslam, try cvs |
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| [05:06:00] | bigslam: | hmm linuxtv cvs? |
| [05:06:00] | rpete: | yes, they even mention that on the download page |
| [05:07:00] | bigslam: | hmm ok |
| [05:11:00] | bigslam: | ahh nice |
| [05:11:00] | bigslam: | looks like its working thanks rpete |
| [05:13:00] | rpete: | excellent |
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| [06:19:00] | rpete: | ooh aah I just discover new mythweb "movies 3.5 stars or more" |
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| [07:31:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Can someone point me to the right direction on this question: Why do I need to re-encode the mpeg output from a Win 350 card to burn it into a DVD? |
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| [07:32:00] | rpete: | what is a win 350? a pvt350? |
| [07:33:00] | rpete: | is it a hauppauge card? |
| [07:33:00] | ChrisMacTire: | yes |
| [07:33:00] | rpete: | maybe you didn't encode to the correct resolution? |
| [07:35:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Let me rephrase the question then. How do I setup Myth + pvt350 card in such a way that the raw.nuv files can be used to burn a DVD without re-encoding it? |
| [07:37:00] | fryfrog: | set your resolution to 720x480 |
| [07:38:00] | fryfrog: | then just use what ever dvd writing software you use to do video dvds |
| [07:38:00] | ChrisMacTire: | fryfrog, where would I do that? There are a lot of config screens. |
| [07:38:00] | fryfrog: | been a long time, i don't specifically recall |
| [07:38:00] | fryfrog: | i think its with the recording quality type options |
| [07:38:00] | fryfrog: | "recording profiles" ring a bell? |
| [07:38:00] | ChrisMacTire: | fryfrog: Alright, thanks, I'll look around. Ah. Yeah, I have an idea where that is. |
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| [08:39:00] | Gumby: | can anyone recommend a good bitrate to start with when using nuvexport. My main goal is to reduce size and then burn to a disk using xvid and play on a pc that will output its display to a tv. |
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| [08:40:00] | rpete: | what size disk? |
| [08:40:00] | Gumby: | I will be burning multiple episodes onto a single layer dvd burner |
| [08:40:00] | rpete: | like, two hours? |
| [08:41:00] | Gumby: | sure. as many as I can fit yet still not be blocky |
| [08:41:00] | rpete: | so five hours? what do you want? |
| [08:42:00] | Gumby: | lets go with two. I am just testing right now. |
| [08:42:00] | rpete: | well, I have 5 Mbps gives me 2.4 GB per hour |
| [08:42:00] | Gumby: | I have a recording transcoding using nuvexport. I just have to wait to see the result so I figured I'd ask while its doing so |
| [08:42:00] | laga: | BTW, what's the protocol version in latest CVS? |
| [08:43:00] | Gumby: | rpete: so when using nuvexport and it asks for a bitrate you put 5000 ? |
| [08:43:00] | Gumby: | seems a bit much to me |
| [08:43:00] | Gumby: | my default recordings from livetv are already that big |
| [08:43:00] | rpete: | that would probably be 2.4GB/hr, yeah |
| [08:43:00] | Gumby: | I'm transcoding them to xvid |
| [08:45:00] | Gumby: | I guess I'll just try using the defaults that nuvexport puts in and go from there. |
| [08:45:00] | ** Gumby waits 30–45 min for the transcode to complete ** | |
| [08:45:00] | rpete: | well yeah, one test run and then scale |
| [08:45:00] | rpete: | if it's 1.3x too large for your dvd then scale down bitrate accordingly |
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| [08:50:00] | Squidy: | hi... when i try mythtv command i receive this that could not connect to the backend address... |
| [08:51:00] | Gumby: | start the backend and/or make sure its setup properly |
| [08:52:00] | Gumby: | check to see that mysql allows connections from the user you are trying to connect with and also from the IP you are trying to connect from |
| [08:53:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Squidy: Are you running both the backend and frontend on the same machine? |
| [08:53:00] | Squidy: | ok.. but now.. when i connect i receive 2005-05–28 03:53:30.361 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_rea |
| [08:53:00] | Squidy: | and: Couldn't read file: rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/mnt/store-tv/ringbuf1.nuv |
| [08:54:00] | Squidy: | ChrisMacTire, yes |
| [08:54:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Did you configure the backend? |
| [08:54:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Off Topic: Anyone know any good, free, dvd authoring soft for Windows? |
| [08:54:00] | Squidy: | ChrisMacTire, i configured mythtv-setup |
| [08:55:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Does /mnt/store-tv/ exist? What does the mythbackend log say? |
| [08:56:00] | Squidy: | yes.. |
| [08:57:00] | ChrisMacTire: | A) Are you sure the backend is running? You may have started it but it may have crashed so... B) What does the backend logfile say? Anyting in if? |
| [08:57:00] | ChrisMacTire: | it? |
| [08:59:00] | Squidy: | ChrisMacTire, when i run mythbackend.. the daemon ups ok... i will past the log in pastebin.ca ok?1 |
| [08:59:00] | ChrisMacTire: | sure |
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| [09:02:00] | Squidy: | ChrisMacTire, http://pastebin.ca/12830 |
| [09:02:00] | Squidy: | are there |
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| [09:03:00] | Squidy: | i dont know what happened |
| [09:04:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Uhm, what is mythtv? Do you have that aliased to mythfrontend or something? |
| [09:04:00] | laga: | mythtv launches mythfrontend in livetv mode, i guess |
| [09:05:00] | Squidy: | yes laga |
| [09:05:00] | laga: | morning , btw :) |
| [09:06:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Two things. 1) Run a 'ps auxw | grep mythbackend' to see if the backend is actually up. 2) Try just mythfrontend instead. Jumping right into tv is asking for a lot first time out. |
| [09:06:00] | ChrisMacTire: | morning laga |
| [09:07:00] | Gumby: | Squidy: check the permissions on ringbuff |
| [09:07:00] | Squidy: | 1) mythbackend is up. |
| [09:08:00] | Squidy: | 2) when i try just mythbackend instead and jump to livetv i receive the similar message |
| [09:08:00] | Squidy: | Gumby, hmmm |
| [09:10:00] | Squidy: | Gumby, the /mnt/store-tv/ringbuf1.nuv dont exist |
| [09:10:00] | Gumby: | probably cause myth doesnt have permission to create it |
| [09:10:00] | Gumby: | ls -ld /mnt/store-tv |
| [09:11:00] | ChrisMacTire: | ... |
| [09:11:00] | Squidy: | drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 80 2005-05–28 04:12 /mnt/store-tv/ |
| [09:11:00] | Gumby: | as root chown mythtv:mythtv /mnt/store-tv |
| [09:12:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Squidy: Which user are you running these commands as? |
| [09:12:00] | Squidy: | root |
| [09:12:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Both mythbackend and mythfrondend are running as root? |
| [09:12:00] | Gumby: | which user are you running mythfrontend as? |
| [09:13:00] | Squidy: | Gumby, a normal user |
| [09:13:00] | Gumby: | chown user:user /mnt/store-tv |
| [09:13:00] | Squidy: | ChrisMacTire, only mythbackend |
| [09:13:00] | Gumby: | Squidy: which distro are you on? and how are you starting mythbackend? |
| [09:13:00] | Squidy: | Gumby, slackware |
| [09:14:00] | Gumby: | (and for the chown, use the user that you are running the frontend as) |
| [09:14:00] | Squidy: | just running mythbackend |
| [09:14:00] | Gumby: | does slack use init.d ? |
| [09:14:00] | ChrisMacTire: | If mythbackend is running as root it should have no problem creating /mnt/store-tv/*.nuv now shouldn't it? |
| [09:14:00] | Gumby: | /etc/init.d/myth-backend start (if it does) |
| [09:15:00] | Squidy: | in the inid.d dont exist myth-backend file |
| [09:15:00] | Gumby: | ChrisMacTire: all my recordings are owned by the user mythtv |
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| [09:16:00] | Gumby: | Squidy: ps aux |grep mythbackend |
| [09:16:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Gumby: How'd you manage that? mythbackend runs as root and generates the recordings... No? |
| [09:17:00] | Gumby: | ChrisMacTire: depends |
| [09:17:00] | Squidy: | 7674 pts/1 Sl+ 0:00 mythbackend |
| [09:17:00] | Gumby: | ie: I start my mythbackend through an init script as root, but it runs the backend as user mythtv |
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| [09:17:00] | Gumby: | Squidy: which user is it running as? |
| [09:18:00] | Squidy: | root 7674 0.2 2.4 129692 12556 pts/1 Sl+ 04:17 0:00 mythbackend |
| [09:18:00] | Gumby: | then yes, I believe you shouldnt have a permission problem at all |
| [09:19:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Gumby: By setting MYTH_USER I gather? |
| [09:19:00] | Squidy: | :( |
| [09:20:00] | Gumby: | ChanServ: in my init its just USER= |
| [09:20:00] | Gumby: | but yes |
| [09:20:00] | Gumby: | same difference |
| [09:21:00] | Gumby: | Squidy: have you checked the logs? |
| [09:21:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Squidy: What is in /mnt/store-tv/ anyhow? |
| [09:21:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Gumby: He pasted them here: http://pastebin.ca/12830 |
| [09:21:00] | ** Gumby is curious is touch /mnt/store-tv/newfile works ** | |
| [09:21:00] | Gumby: | (as root) |
| [09:22:00] | Squidy: | only have this: nfslockfile.lock |
| [09:22:00] | Gumby: | its an nfs share? |
| [09:22:00] | Gumby: | ah |
| [09:22:00] | Squidy: | no |
| [09:23:00] | Gumby: | what is your mount line for that partition? |
| [09:23:00] | Gumby: | in fstab (I assume) |
| [09:24:00] | Squidy: | /dev/hda2 / reiserfs defaults 1 1 |
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| [09:24:00] | Gumby: | mount |grep hda2 |
| [09:24:00] | Squidy: | hey.. i use bttv.. its a problem? |
| [09:24:00] | Gumby: | 2005-05–28 04:00:55.142 adding: fran as a remote ringbuffer <--- where is "fran" |
| [09:25:00] | Squidy: | is local |
| [09:25:00] | Gumby: | mount |grep hda2 |
| [09:26:00] | Gumby: | and no, bttv should be an issue if you are using a bttv card. test it with tvtime |
| [09:26:00] | Squidy: | tvtime is working |
| [09:26:00] | Squidy: | /dev/hda2 on / type reiserfs (rw) |
| [09:28:00] | Gumby: | ok, you really shouldnt put your ringbuffer in /mnt especially considering you arent using a separate partition or nfs/samba share |
| [09:29:00] | Gumby: | it doesnt hurt anything really. Its just not that great as far as directory structure goes |
| [09:29:00] | Squidy: | where is ringbuffer? |
| [09:29:00] | Gumby: | not to mention if you put it there you could quite possibly fill up your root drive very quickly |
| [09:29:00] | Gumby: | its in /mnt/store-tv |
| [09:30:00] | Gumby: | Couldn't read file: rbuf://127.0.0.1:6543/mnt/store-tv/ringbuf1.nuv |
| [09:31:00] | Gumby: | unless of course you only have one partition for /, /home, /usr etc . |
| [09:31:00] | Gumby: | then you should just be spanked |
| [09:31:00] | Gumby: | :) |
| [09:31:00] | ChrisMacTire: | shot |
| [09:31:00] | Squidy: | ;/ im just have / and /home partitions |
| [09:31:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Oy vey |
| [09:33:00] | ChrisMacTire: | You know, mythtv could seriously use a post installation, post configuration, user guide. |
| [09:33:00] | Gumby: | Squidy: how large are your partitions? |
| [09:34:00] | Squidy: | 600M available |
| [09:35:00] | Gumby: | yikes, thats not going to be nearly enough |
| [09:35:00] | Squidy: | but i will not record noghing |
| [09:35:00] | Gumby: | I dont even think its enough for livetv. I think 1GB is the lowest you can use for ringbuff |
| [09:35:00] | Gumby: | which could be the problem. |
| [09:36:00] | Gumby: | anything in /home? |
| [09:37:00] | Gumby: | if you run livetv and you have your ringbuff being saved to / you are going to run into a heck of a lot of troubles when you fill up your hdd. |
| [09:37:00] | Gumby: | first, mythbackend will crash |
| [09:37:00] | Squidy: | now. i have 5GB available.. :) |
| [09:37:00] | Gumby: | hehe |
| [09:37:00] | Gumby: | make sure to set your ringbuff to 1 or 2 GB then in mythsetup\ |
| [09:38:00] | Gumby: | and I strongly suggest moving it to /home |
| [09:39:00] | Gumby: | if you leave it in / and it fills up first mythbackend will crash and leave the file there. then you will have a heck of a time trying to get rid of it as logging into root will have issues because it wont be able to write the log files when you try and login due to a lack of space |
| [09:40:00] | Squidy: | but.. you really think that this problema is space? |
| [09:40:00] | Gumby: | well, if you have 5GB now in / (not including /home) try starting the frontend again (and try both as root) |
| [09:41:00] | Gumby: | something else I just noticed.... |
| [09:42:00] | Gumby: | IVTV_IOC_G_CODEC:: Endereço inválido <--- if you are using bttv I dont think that should be there. did you set the cardd up properly in mythtv-setup? |
| [09:43:00] | Gumby: | ivtv is the driver for pvr-x50 cards |
| [09:43:00] | Gumby: | not bttv |
| [09:45:00] | Squidy: | yeah.. now its working |
| [09:46:00] | Gumby: | excellent |
| [09:47:00] | Squidy: | thx so much |
| [09:48:00] | ChrisMacTire: | yay |
| [09:48:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Squidy: Thanks for the heads up on postbin.ca. Didn't know about that. |
| [09:49:00] | Gumby: | rafb.net/paste is another |
| [09:50:00] | Squidy: | yeah.. |
| [09:50:00] | Squidy: | :) |
| [09:50:00] | ChrisMacTire: | So apparently there is no good free DVD authoring software for windows. :( Ah well. |
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| [09:55:00] | Gumby: | dvd authoring? Doesnt adobe premiere do that? |
| [09:55:00] | ChrisMacTire: | free |
| [09:55:00] | Gumby: | lol, in the windows world? |
| [09:55:00] | ** Gumby lol's again ** | |
| [09:57:00] | ChrisMacTire: | yeah, yeah, I know I'm asking for too much. |
| [10:02:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Is there any discussion of the merits of various resolutions vs disk usage anywhere? |
| [10:04:00] | BlastM: | Try DVD Styler |
| [10:04:00] | BlastM: | it's for linux though |
| [10:04:00] | intrade: | shrink dvd is for winblows |
| [10:04:00] | BlastM: | it isn't a dvd authoring program |
| [10:04:00] | ChrisMacTire: | if it's linux it's command line only for me |
| [10:04:00] | ChrisMacTire: | which means dvdauthor. |
| [10:05:00] | intrade: | i love gui solide runing ones |
| [10:08:00] | fryfrog: | ChrisMacTire: its not really the resolution that changes the size of files |
| [10:08:00] | fryfrog: | its the bitrate |
| [10:08:00] | Squidy: | Hi... now its ok.. but dont listen sound... my sound work in mono.. how i set mythtv to work with it? |
| [10:10:00] | ChrisMacTire: | fryfrog: Alright... That makes sence but is still puzzing to some degree |
| [10:14:00] | fryfrog: | well |
| [10:14:00] | fryfrog: | i guess they are KINDA related |
| [10:14:00] | fryfrog: | but a 720x480 @ 2200 and 310x480 @ 2200 are gonna take up the same space |
| [10:14:00] | fryfrog: | the 2200 is the bitrate |
| [10:15:00] | fryfrog: | i think the 2nd will have more detail, because it uses more data to describe a smaller area |
| [10:15:00] | fryfrog: | i use 720x480 cause its dvd standard |
| [10:15:00] | ChrisMacTire: | fryfrog: Well, look at this way. DVD MPEG2 NTSC allowed resolutions are 720 × 480, 704 × 480, 352 × 480, 352 × 240. |
| [10:15:00] | fryfrog: | then i just fiddle with bitrate till i find something i'm happy with |
| [10:16:00] | ChrisMacTire: | fryfrog: Now they mention a framerate which may corelate to bitrate but I haven't found a conversion yet. |
| [10:16:00] | fryfrog: | bit rate his how much data per second |
| [10:16:00] | fryfrog: | thats not frame rate |
| [10:16:00] | fryfrog: | imagine each frame is taken with a digital camera |
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| [10:16:00] | fryfrog: | a bitrate of 2200 might be a 2.2 MPixel camera |
| [10:17:00] | fryfrog: | a bitrate of 4400 might be a 4.4 MPixel camera |
| [10:17:00] | fryfrog: | the 4.4 MP camera image looks "better" cause it has twice the number of pixles / detail |
| [10:17:00] | ChrisMacTire: | I thought MPEG encoded some frames a "how diffrent is this fron the last one?" which would save you some bits on those types of frmaes, no? |
| [10:17:00] | fryfrog: | yeah, sorry that was just an example of how bitrate effects quality :) |
| [10:18:00] | fryfrog: | ie, a 500 bitrate might look fine at 320x240 |
| [10:18:00] | fryfrog: | but it'd suck at 720x480 |
| [10:18:00] | fryfrog: | and here is where i don't get tv |
| [10:19:00] | fryfrog: | i THINK that its the ???x480 that really changes how good the image looks |
| [10:19:00] | fryfrog: | like, the first part doesn't matter to much but the horizontal resolution is what maeks it look good |
| [10:19:00] | fryfrog: | so "352 × 480" @ 1100–2200 would probably look fine |
| [10:20:00] | fryfrog: | play around till you find what looks "okay" to you |
| [10:20:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Alright, so it varies from bitrate to max bitrate depending how hard the image is to encode. |
| [10:20:00] | ** ChrisMacTire sighs ** | |
| [10:20:00] | fryfrog: | i hate that setting, i really don't know what that means :) |
| [10:20:00] | fryfrog: | and i THINK it works the opposite way of how i thought it'd work |
| [10:20:00] | fryfrog: | like raising it messes up the quality or something |
| [10:21:00] | ChrisMacTire: | I'm just looking to setup one recording provile as DVD archival quality. I guess I'll tryp 720x420 with the default bitrates. Now, what the hell is stream type? |
| [10:22:00] | fryfrog: | MPGET PS and TS? |
| [10:22:00] | fryfrog: | damn, someone told me once but now i don't recall |
| [10:22:00] | ChrisMacTire: | There is more tahn that available. |
| [10:22:00] | ChrisMacTire: | DVD DVD-special 1 DVD-special 2 MPGET PS and TS are all choices |
| [10:23:00] | fryfrog: | MPEG PS (Program Stream) or MPEG TS (Transport Stream) |
| [10:23:00] | fryfrog: | i think MPEG PS is what you want |
| [10:27:00] | fryfrog: | i can't really find anything about wtf PS and TS are |
| [10:29:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Well, now I've got a bunch of recordings to delete. :( |
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| [10:41:00] | fatmatt: | heyas |
| [10:41:00] | fatmatt: | anyone had issues with mythbrowser in 0.18? |
| [10:41:00] | fatmatt: | I've just installed matt zimmermans 01.8 debs and mythbrowser has disappeared and mythgallery doesn't work |
| [10:51:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Haven't installed mythbrowser, sorry. |
| [10:51:00] | ChrisMacTire: | man I should get to bed |
| [10:51:00] | fatmatt: | mythgallery? |
| [10:52:00] | ChrisMacTire: | nope |
| [10:52:00] | ChrisMacTire: | mythweb (works) mythdvd (doesn't) mythvideo (doesn't) |
| [11:05:00] | fatmatt: | bugger, debian packages for mythgallery are still 0.17 |
| [11:06:00] | fatmatt: | and the mailing list has something about a bug in mythbrowsert |
| [11:06:00] | ChrisMacTire: | bugger indeed |
| [11:06:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Then again it's debian... I don't expect them to be on time. |
| [11:06:00] | fatmatt: | haha, wish I could flame you for that but |
| [11:07:00] | ChrisMacTire: | you can't |
| [11:07:00] | ChrisMacTire: | because someone built and entire distribution around the fact that debian is out of date. |
| [11:08:00] | fatmatt: | not out of date, just a little late... |
| [11:08:00] | ChrisMacTire: | <quote>It's just a little slimy, it's still good, it's still good...</quote> |
| [11:09:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Hey, I have nothing against debian. I tried it. It's not my cup of tea. |
| [11:11:00] | Bob-Laptop: | "Avoid Change — Run Debian" Is my favorite bumper sticker ever |
| [11:11:00] | fatmatt: | I switched from redhat when they started charging and I realised their tweaks were making my life more difficult |
| [11:11:00] | fatmatt: | apart from the late thing, debian has been good |
| [11:11:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Debian is great in a lot of ways |
| [11:12:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Mostly on other people's machines |
| [11:12:00] | ChrisMacTire: | eh. I've done Slackware, Debian, Gentoo, Fedora as well as NetBSD. I like gentoo best of all. |
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| [11:13:00] | fatmatt: | I'd switch to gentoo but everything I use at the moment can't afford to be down for the time it would take me to figure out how to use a new dist, and I don't have a spare pc to install and play on |
| [11:14:00] | fatmatt: | maybe if I lost my job and had time on my hands... |
| [11:14:00] | ChrisMacTire: | I hear you. |
| [11:15:00] | Bob-Laptop: | fatmatt: not sure unemployment would give you enough time |
| [11:15:00] | fatmatt: | lol |
| [11:15:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Random question: Dual sided, dual layered. Does it exist? Can it exist? |
| [11:15:00] | Bob-Laptop: | gentoo just seemed to painful and never ending |
| [11:16:00] | fatmatt: | theres a program that makes debian packages... can;t remember the name |
| [11:16:00] | ChrisMacTire: | Bob-Laptop: True, but it's helpful if you have an unusual platform. |
| [11:17:00] | Bob-Laptop: | ChrisMacTire: I have quite a few friends that run Gentoo, I just can't do it |
| [11:17:00] | ChrisMacTire: | to each his own |
| [11:17:00] | Bob-Laptop: | ChrisMacTire: they have a VPN set up just for distcc |
| [11:22:00] | ChrisMacTire: | of what, what the hell do they need to compile so much? |
| [11:23:00] | Bob-Laptop: | ChrisMacTire: I don't get compiling at all, so don't ask me |
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| [11:33:00] | Cardoe: | any Gentoo AMD64 users? |
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| [13:30:00] | KaLiF: | greetings to anyone |
| [13:36:00] | laga: | greetings to KaLiF |
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| [13:47:00] | KaLiF: | mythtv-setup is asking me for "XMLTV listng grabber" but i cant choose Italy.. is that really needed? |
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| [14:05:00] | KaLiF: | Could someone help configuring MythTV? |
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| [15:09:00] | jemarcks: | morning |
| [15:10:00] | rjune_away: | sup |
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| [15:11:00] | jemarcks: | i cant get mythmusic to show the artist and song titles when i import a CD. this is what i have in .cdsercerrc SERVER=http://freedb.freedb.org:80/~cddb/cddb.cgi CDDB |
| [15:11:00] | jemarcks: | is this correct? |
| [15:13:00] | rjune: | dunno,l where's the .cdsercerrc file? |
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| [15:22:00] | jemarcks: | its in my home dir |
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| [15:42:00] | rjune: | ACCESS=REMOTE |
| [15:42:00] | rjune: | SERVER=http://freedb.freedb.org:80/~cddb/cddb.cgi CDDB |
| [15:42:00] | rjune: | jemarcks: ^ that's mine |
| [15:43:00] | jemarcks: | huh? |
| [15:43:00] | laga: | hi rjune |
| [15:43:00] | jemarcks: | rjune, thats what i have too |
| [15:44:00] | jemarcks: | hmmm |
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| [15:44:00] | jemarcks: | rjune, mythmusic doesnt show the song titles and artist when i import a CD |
| [15:44:00] | laga: | rjune: i'm currently compiling the dependencies of mythtv |
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| [16:09:00] | iver: | is there any drivers for the pvr 150 yet? |
| [16:09:00] | laga: | ivtv.tv |
| [16:10:00] | iver: | doesnt work |
| [16:11:00] | iver: | aah, needed the www. |
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| [16:11:00] | iver: | are they any got? |
| [16:12:00] | laga: | oops, sorry ;) |
| [16:12:00] | laga: | dunno, but many people seem to be using them successfully |
| [16:12:00] | iver: | good* |
| [16:12:00] | iver: | aah, cool |
| [16:12:00] | iver: | the local computer shops only sells pvr 350, which is way too expensive |
| [16:13:00] | iver: | if the pvr 150 works that would be great |
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| [16:20:00] | GeckoFiend: | iver get an avermedia M179 on ebay |
| [16:22:00] | rjune: | jemarcks: dunno then |
| [16:22:00] | rjune: | laga: sweet |
| [16:22:00] | rjune: | laga: how goes it? |
| [16:22:00] | rjune: | iver: ivtv version 0.3.0 |
| [16:22:00] | rjune: | gah, 0.30 |
| [16:23:00] | laga: | rjune: not well. 'make' complains...fsck i'm stupid, never mind |
| [16:23:00] | rjune: | heh |
| [16:23:00] | pyrodex: | is it abnormal for the firewire cable box to show up as node 0 and the firewire bus itself as node 1 |
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| [16:25:00] | laga: | sweet, this wrt54g rocks. wlan in the garden \o/ |
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| [16:29:00] | D-side: | LostSole: well imagine that. :) |
| [16:29:00] | laga: | hey D-side |
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| [16:30:00] | LostSole: | heh. Fancy meeting you here, D-side |
| [16:30:00] | D-side: | laga: hey. hows it going |
| [16:30:00] | laga: | D-side: fine, fine :). and on your side of the world? ;) |
| [16:30:00] | D-side: | eh. |
| [16:30:00] | Zugot: | if i purchase a pvr350, could i also use the mpeg encoder for when i'm converting avi to mpeg2 in prep for creating dvds? |
| [16:30:00] | iggy: | no |
| [16:30:00] | D-side: | Zugot: no. |
| [16:31:00] | Zugot: | ok |
| [16:31:00] | Zugot: | thanks |
| [16:31:00] | D-side: | laga: last we spoke, you were getting hammered. :) |
| [16:32:00] | laga: | D-side: well, let's forget about our chat and talk to me again in 3 hours. |
| [16:32:00] | D-side: | oh? |
| [16:32:00] | laga: | D-side: when i'll be getting hammered again, but not at home, unfortunately. stupid parties :) |
| [16:32:00] | D-side: | hah. |
| [16:32:00] | Leebier|sleepy: | so if i'm reformatting and starting over, is it necessary to also remove all the recordings i have or will a new install of myth be able to detect the video files already present? I seem to recall there is a command to do this but I don't remember what it is |
| [16:32:00] | D-side: | nonstop since you've been able to eh? :) |
| [16:33:00] | Leebier|sleepy is now known as Leebier | |
| [16:33:00] | D-side: | Leebier|sleepy: well, if you're going to be using the same version of myth, you can just dump your db and restore it when the system is reinstalled. |
| [16:33:00] | D-side: | i hope you've got a seperate partition for all the mythtv recordings |
| [16:33:00] | Leebier: | well, i'm not using the same version, will that prevent me from reusing the database? |
| [16:33:00] | Leebier: | and yes, i do :) |
| [16:34:00] | D-side: | honestly, i'm not sure. |
| [16:34:00] | Leebier: | i've already gotten a dump of the DB |
| [16:34:00] | Zugot: | today i get my pvr150MCE working |
| [16:34:00] | Zugot: | hopefully |
| [16:40:00] | D-side: | I don't want to touch a THING on my box. |
| [16:40:00] | D-side: | its working perfectly, and I plan on letting it stay that way. :) |
| [16:44:00] | iggy: | if you restore your database, then start up the backend on the new install, it would be just like starting up an updated copy |
| [16:45:00] | D-side: | so no problems? excellent. |
| [16:45:00] | iggy: | iow, it should be handled correctly |
| [16:45:00] | D-side: | i'll keep that in mind. |
| [16:46:00] | Leebier: | iggy, was that a response to me? |
| [16:46:00] | iggy: | yes |
| [16:46:00] | Leebier: | cool, sorry, wasn't lookin at the window there :) |
| [16:47:00] | Leebier: | i've been reluctant to make any changes as i feared it would break something, but i hit a point where i won't be able to take in any new features due to running FC1 |
| [16:47:00] | D-side: | aha |
| [16:50:00] | Leebier: | 18.1 breaks very badly with FC1 |
| [16:51:00] | D-side: | FC1 is pretty old anyway. |
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| [16:51:00] | Leebier: | well, i had subscribed to the "I don't want to touch a THING on my box... it's working perfectly, and I plan on letting it stay that way" philosophy :) |
| [16:52:00] | iggy: | that's a good one to have |
| [16:53:00] | Leebier: | but i also want commecial skipping to work on Law and Order, so here i am upgrading :) |
| [16:53:00] | D-side: | Leebier: oh i agree. |
| [16:53:00] | D-side: | if it works, who cares if its old. |
| [16:53:00] | D-side: | do you REQUIRE .18.1 though? |
| [16:53:00] | Leebier: | it'd be nice |
| [16:54:00] | Leebier: | plus, perhaps i'll want .19 or .20, so i might as well get to something with some headroom |
| [16:58:00] | D-side: | true. |
| [16:59:00] | D-side: | afaik though, .18.1 just affords you the LXM listings. maybe a few bugfixes too, but none of them really effect me enough to take the plunge. :) |
| [17:01:00] | Leebier: | shit, i just remembered something i wish i'd done before i started the install |
| [17:01:00] | Leebier: | would have been nice to make a copy of my fstab file |
| [17:01:00] | D-side: | heh. |
| [17:01:00] | opello: | Leebier: what was that about commercial skipping on law & order? it always did for me |
| [17:02:00] | D-side: | i get real nervous about that sort of thing, so i always install to a spare drive |
| [17:02:00] | Leebier: | oh, it works alright, but i remember on the release notes it mentioned improvements to the flagging |
| [17:02:00] | D-side: | once i know its working right, i star it over to the original drive. |
| [17:02:00] | Leebier: | particularly for shows like L&O that have lots of internal black space |
| [17:02:00] | D-side: | or Alias for me. |
| [17:03:00] | Leebier: | well, i don't have anything that complicated set up, the biggest thing was getting it to talk to my Windows PC and see my music directory |
| [17:03:00] | Leebier: | i'l llive if i don't get that working today :) |
| [17:03:00] | D-side: | samba isnt too hard, you'll get that going. :0 |
| [17:03:00] | D-side: | :) even |
| [17:03:00] | Leebier: | yeah, i did it last time, i'm sure i'll get it again :) |
| [17:04:00] | opello: | ah |
| [17:04:00] | jemarcks: | I get this error when i transcode :[encode_ffmpeg] mpa codec not found ! |
| [17:04:00] | jemarcks: | [transcode] warning : (encoder.c) audio export module error: init failed |
| [17:04:00] | jemarcks: | [transcode] critical: failed to init encoder |
| [17:04:00] | jemarcks: | Error: transcode failed, file not successfully encoded! |
| [17:06:00] | Leebier: | i was always kind of surprised myth does fine with Arrested Development since it uses a white screen rather than black at the cut out |
| [17:06:00] | D-side: | shh |
| [17:07:00] | D-side: | it might hear you and stop working. |
| [17:09:00] | pyrodex: | Anyone know anyway to prevent crackling in Audio from Alsa in mythtv? |
| [17:10:00] | pyrodex: | I have recordings that it occurs in sometimes but it tends to stop after a few minutes. |
| [17:11:00] | iggy: | what tv card |
| [17:12:00] | pyrodex: | hauppage pvr350 |
| [17:12:00] | iggy: | that doesn't use audio in from alsa |
| [17:12:00] | iggy: | the audio is embedded in the mpeg stream from the card itself |
| [17:13:00] | iggy: | try different drivers, tuner modules, cleaner signal, etc. |
| [17:13:00] | pyrodex: | Ok, so a test would be to play the audio back on another PC and see if the crackling exists? |
| [17:13:00] | iggy: | sure |
| [17:14:00] | jemarcks: | Any transcode gurus here to look at an error message? |
| [17:18:00] | Leebier: | gotta love this skanky old CD drive, my remaining install time is going up |
| [17:19:00] | D-side: | get a dvdrw and burn a dvd of the install disc. damn fast install times. :) |
| [17:19:00] | Leebier: | yeah, no DVD burner at the moment, though my new notebook may have one when i get it |
| [17:20:00] | Leebier: | but i think the bigger issue here is just that it's a 20X reader |
| [17:20:00] | laga: | rjune: got a few minutes for me? |
| [17:20:00] | Leebier: | though this marks exactly the second time i've used the cd drive, the last time was when i installed linux the first time |
| [17:20:00] | D-side: | oof. |
| [17:21:00] | opello: | so are banks going to be open today until noon like usual? |
| [17:22:00] | opello: | whoops, haha – wrong channel :) |
| [17:22:00] | Leebier: | taht seemed like an odd question :) |
| [17:22:00] | opello: | well, holiday weekend |
| [17:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | what Holiday is it? |
| [17:22:00] | opello: | memorial day |
| [17:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh |
| [17:23:00] | Leebier: | i think it only affects business hours on monday |
| [17:23:00] | jemarcks: | Any transcode gurus here to look at an error message? |
| [17:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | I knew there was one in the US on Monday, just ot which :) |
| [17:23:00] | jemarcks: | My transcode fails with this error. |
| [17:23:00] | jemarcks: | [transcode] warning : (encoder.c) audio export module error: init failed |
| [17:23:00] | jemarcks: | [transcode] critical: failed to init encoder |
| [17:23:00] | jemarcks: | Error: transcode failed, file not successfully encoded! |
| [17:23:00] | iggy: | opello: they have to be |
| [17:24:00] | jemarcks: | [encode_ffmpeg] mpa codec not found ! |
| [17:24:00] | iggy: | banks aren't allowed to be closed more than 2 days at a time |
| [17:24:00] | opello: | really? that's kinda wierd, although good to know |
| [17:24:00] | Leebier: | hmm, that's something i should have known |
| [17:24:00] | Leebier: | makes sense though |
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| [17:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | jemarcks: you might consider #transcode |
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| [17:32:00] | Leebier: | i think i burned the 4 CDs in less time than it took to install the packages off them |
| [17:33:00] | Leebier: | and downloading them took only twice as long, which is completely perposterous |
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| [17:37:00] | Squidy: | hi guys.. where i found the lircrc.example for my pixelview playtv remote control to use with mythtv? |
| [17:39:00] | D-side: | google :D |
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| [17:40:00] | D-side: | xris: hey. how goes it |
| [17:41:00] | xris: | dunno. just woke up. |
| [17:41:00] | laga: | heh. |
| [17:41:00] | ** xris double checks to make sure it's saturday. ** | |
| [17:41:00] | ** laga hands a nice cup of coffee to xris ** | |
| [17:42:00] | xris: | not a fan of coffee in the morning. |
| [17:42:00] | xris: | or coffee in general.. good espresso, yes.. coffee, not so much. |
| [17:43:00] | pyrodex: | hmm compile error in CVS |
| [17:44:00] | laga: | xris: well, either is caffeine ;) |
| [17:46:00] | xris: | laga: yeah. dunno how I live in seattle and just don't go for that artificial stimulation thing. |
| [17:46:00] | laga: | hehe |
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| [17:50:00] | Leebier: | so i'm trying to do download axel's kickstart package and I enter "rpm -Uvh http://blah.com/blahblah/blah/" and i get : |
| [17:50:00] | Leebier: | Retreiving http://blah blah |
| [17:51:00] | Leebier: | warning: /var/tmp/rpm-xfer.IaTKki: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 66534c2b |
| [17:51:00] | Leebier: | error: can't create transaction lock |
| [17:51:00] | Leebier: | any ideas? |
| [17:52:00] | Leebier: | wait, i think i have it |
| [17:52:00] | Leebier: | i'm an idiot |
| [17:52:00] | laga: | su -.... |
| [17:52:00] | Leebier: | yeah, i just figured that out :-p |
| [17:53:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [17:54:00] | Leebier: | not a good sign when the first command you run blows up in your face because you can't remember to su :-p |
| [17:55:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [17:56:00] | ** xris wonders how mythrecipe will deal with this: http://cooktools.forevermore.net/test ** | |
| [17:56:00] | xris: | I think I need to write it to be more easily compatible with other languages. |
| [17:56:00] | laga: | does mythrecipe actually work? |
| [17:56:00] | LostSole: | mythrecipe? |
| [17:56:00] | Leebier: | we have a mythrecipie now? |
| [17:57:00] | xris: | dunno if it works now. I'm writing something separate, and WAY better, for web access. |
| [17:57:00] | xris: | but once that's done, mythrecipe should be able to link to it. |
| [17:57:00] | xris: | problem is, mythrecipe is xml-based, mine is plaintext (plus wiki) |
| [17:58:00] | Leebier: | holy crap, i just saw 450 kB/s on this apt-get download |
| [17:58:00] | laga: | poser |
| [17:59:00] | Leebier: | ? |
| [17:59:00] | laga: | s/poser// && slap laga |
| [17:59:00] | Leebier: | my cable company is hellspawn but they do seem to keep ramping up the speeds |
| [18:00:00] | ** GeckoFiend glances over at his 56k modem and sighs ** | |
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| [18:00:00] | laga: | GeckoFiend: ouch, that sucks |
| [18:00:00] | Leebier: | how do you live? |
| [18:00:00] | GeckoFiend: | yeah DSL was suppoused to have been here "this year" 3 years ago when I moved in |
| [18:01:00] | laga: | :/ |
| [18:01:00] | xris: | GeckoFiend: that sucks. |
| [18:01:00] | laga: | do you have to pay a fee per minute? |
| [18:01:00] | GeckoFiend: | nah flat monthly rate |
| [18:01:00] | GeckoFiend: | we use two modems one for me one for the wife. |
| [18:01:00] | GeckoFiend: | mines on a deidcated line |
| [18:03:00] | xris: | GeckoFiend: not even cable available? where are you? |
| [18:03:00] | rjune: | laga: sup? |
| [18:03:00] | GeckoFiend: | xris nope it stops around 3/4ths a mile from my house |
| [18:03:00] | iggy: | move |
| [18:03:00] | xris: | man, that really sucks. |
| [18:04:00] | Leebier: | just need to buy a very long Cat5 cable |
| [18:04:00] | iggy: | fiber |
| [18:05:00] | xris: | GeckoFiend: yeah. move out to seattle. then we can all hang out. ;) |
| [18:05:00] | pyrodex: | Damn you virtual int GetFd() = 0; causing CVS not to compile |
| [18:05:00] | laga: | rjune: sorry, gotta go now. |
| [18:05:00] | laga: | rjune: let me tell you, the lack of documentation sucks :) |
| [18:06:00] | rjune: | yeah I know |
| [18:06:00] | GeckoFiend: | pyrodex umm CVS compiles. |
| [18:06:00] | xris: | btw, anyone who feels like pasting recipes into my test program is welcome to — I need to see what breaks it (and nothing is stored) |
| [18:06:00] | GeckoFiend: | might not for DVB though |
| [18:07:00] | pyrodex: | GeckoFiend not for me, I got this. |
| [18:08:00] | pyrodex: | tv_rec.cpp: In member function `bool TVRec::Init()': |
| [18:08:00] | pyrodex: | tv_rec.cpp:130: error: cannot allocate an object of type `FirewireChannel' |
| [18:08:00] | pyrodex: | tv_rec.cpp:130: error: because the following virtual functions are abstract: |
| [18:08:00] | pyrodex: | channelbase.h:61: error: virtual int ChannelBase::GetFd() |
| [18:08:00] | GeckoFiend: | ahhh firewire. |
| [18:08:00] | pyrodex: | Yea. |
| [18:11:00] | rjune: | GeckoFiend: why two modems? |
| [18:12:00] | GeckoFiend: | rjune so that she and I don't steal each others bandwidth. Nothing like lagging out mid game becasue you husband is doing a commit or your wife wants to balance the checkbook online |
| [18:13:00] | rjune: | heh |
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| [18:27:00] | xris: | hmm, I'm missing something for compiling cvs... /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext |
| [18:27:00] | GeckoFiend: | that should be where your X11 libs are... |
| [18:28:00] | xris: | that's not -lX11 ? |
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| [18:29:00] | rjune: | xris: add -L/usr/X11R6/lib |
| [18:29:00] | iggy: | it's part of X11 for me |
| [18:30:00] | xris: | I want to know why it compiles on my mythbox but not my workstation. obviously missing a dependency that needs to go into the rpm |
| [18:31:00] | iggy: | X11-devel? |
| [18:32:00] | xris: | yeah. xorg-x11-devel |
| [18:34:00] | shadhoe: | does the video plugin not automatically detect new stuff in the video folder when you go to browse? |
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| [18:36:00] | rjune: | noep |
| [18:36:00] | rjune: | you have to go to the manager first |
| [18:36:00] | shadhoe: | any way around that? |
| [18:37:00] | Ragge: | Anyone having a HowTo on how to Burn DVDs with menus? Maybe there is a script/software around doing it already? |
| [18:38:00] | xris: | ok, no difference between the x libs on my mythbox and my workstation, and the mythbox compiles |
| [18:44:00] | Zugot: | anyone have tips for encoding video quicker to put on dvd? |
| [18:44:00] | Zugot: | ragge: i may have a solution for you... hold one sec |
| [18:44:00] | ** Ragge waits ** | |
| [18:45:00] | Zugot: | this is gentoo based, but I'm sure you can figure out the rest if you aren't using gentoo: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-117709-p . . . ec5befd6ae08 |
| [18:45:00] | Zugot: | i have the whole season of lost in avi format now |
| [18:45:00] | Zugot: | i'm working on putting it on dvd to give to a friend |
| [18:45:00] | rjune: | lost? |
| [18:46:00] | Ragge: | thanks |
| [18:46:00] | Zugot: | Lost... it was a show on ABC. |
| [18:46:00] | rjune: | never heard of it |
| [18:46:00] | Zugot: | something about some folks who were in a plane crash on some deserted island |
| [18:46:00] | rjune: | ah |
| [18:46:00] | GeckoFiend: | rjune wow |
| [18:46:00] | Zugot: | supposedly it is real good. i haven't had time to watch it |
| [18:46:00] | rjune: | GeckoFiend: wot? |
| [18:46:00] | Ragge: | seen a couple of shows.. looks promising.. but then.. sweden is one season or two after everything. :) |
| [18:47:00] | GeckoFiend: | you should check it out. |
| [18:47:00] | GeckoFiend: | very high production quality, writing and acting |
| [18:47:00] | Zugot: | i have 13GB of hdtv quality of avis to encode |
| [18:47:00] | rjune: | Uhm, ok |
| [18:47:00] | Zugot: | i'm new at authoring dvds |
| [18:47:00] | rjune: | I only have 4 channels I care about, and only about 6 shows |
| [18:48:00] | Zugot: | i don't watch much tv reguarly, and i usually miss what i want to watch. i need to hurry and get my pvr150 working |
| [18:48:00] | Zugot: | i have had it for about 2 months now |
| [18:49:00] | Zugot: | ragge: what did you think about the link i sent you? |
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| [18:50:00] | GeckoFiend: | Zugot check out QDVDAuthor |
| [18:50:00] | Ragge: | Zugot: It looks promising.. I don't have time to read it all but I have some ideas I want to complete. The hd in my pvr is getting full. :) |
| [18:50:00] | Zugot: | i have two athlon mp 2600s in a box. i need to get a motherboard and some HDs so I can get them working. I'm quite sure those can handle video encoding better than my pentium M 1.8 laptop |
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| [18:52:00] | Zugot: | ragge: i have a 250GB USB drive that comes in handy for projects like this |
| [18:52:00] | ** xris curses compilers. ** | |
| [18:52:00] | Zugot: | GeckoFiend: i'm installing qdvdauthor right now |
| [18:53:00] | xris: | oh well. I'll be reinstalling everything on this box in a week or so, anyway, when fc4 comes out. |
| [18:53:00] | Zugot: | i have gentoo on my myth box right now |
| [18:54:00] | Zugot: | i may just put fc3 on there |
| [18:54:00] | Zugot: | i need to put a larger HD in the myth box. 80GB isn't cutting it |
| [18:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh, yeah |
| [18:55:00] | Qwertys: | I have a problem with mythtv. when i try to watch live tv, i get a black screen and it seems to halt the console. |
| [18:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | there is neverenough :) |
| [18:55:00] | xris: | Zugot: my mythbox is fc3... my worstation is whatever the latest fedora is (meaning, I upgrade to 4 when it comes out) |
| [18:55:00] | Zugot: | i only have room for one drive |
| [18:55:00] | xris: | though I *could* try ubuntu... dunno. |
| [18:55:00] | Qwertys: | however when i cat /dev/video0 i can get a static channel. |
| [18:55:00] | GeckoFiend: | Zugot: heh /dev/mapper/system-media_files 568G 377G 192G 67% /storage |
| [18:56:00] | Zugot: | i wonder how much SATA drive I could get for $400 |
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| [18:56:00] | Zugot: | GeckoFiend: how much video do you have saved? |
| [18:56:00] | Zugot: | either that or buy a firewire disk box and put the video on there |
| [18:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've got 500G in my backend and even that isn't nough |
| [18:57:00] | GeckoFiend: | Zugot 220 or so recordings, 95 movies |
| [18:57:00] | Zugot: | GeckoFiend: sweet |
| [18:57:00] | ** xris feels so ungeekly.... ** | |
| [18:58:00] | Qwertys: | i view the mythtvbackend.log and all i see is "starting up as the master server" no error messages, nothing... |
| [18:58:00] | ** GreyFoxx wants one of the nice looking machines from Silicon Mechanics to fill with drives for a new fileserver ** | |
| [18:58:00] | Zugot: | i bought a msi mega 865 chassis a couple of weeks ago... pretty sweet. nice small form factor. if i could just get the remote working, it would be golden |
| [18:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | alas iot's not in the budget |
| [18:59:00] | ** Ragge bought a box from SilverStone... very nice.. ** | |
| [18:59:00] | Zugot: | i'm not trying to spend too much on the media pc |
| [18:59:00] | Zugot: | it is slowly creeping to $1000 |
| [18:59:00] | Qwertys: | i was getting an error saying VIDOCGMBUF:: Invalid arguement, but that seems to have gone away with updating the mythtv version and setting permissions |
| [19:00:00] | GeckoFiend: | Zugot good lord why? |
| [19:00:00] | Zugot: | if i add half a terabyte of disk... i think i may go over |
| [19:01:00] | Zugot: | well the computer was $280.. pvr card.. cables to hook to rest of media equipment... storage... plus i bought a new 15" lcd to use with the new computer as well |
| [19:01:00] | Qwertys: | how do i read the log from mythfrontend to find out what its doing? |
| [19:01:00] | Zugot: | lucky i already had the cpu and the memory |
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| [19:02:00] | Ragge: | I put 2 200Gb drives.. That's enough for me... It's not enought space for my gf but I tell here to actually delete some shows. Can't keep everything. :) |
| [19:03:00] | Zugot: | i'm going for a couple of 200GB of larger.... |
| [19:03:00] | Qwertys: | ... |
| [19:04:00] | ** iggy humps his 4x200G raid5 array ** | |
| [19:05:00] | Zugot: | iggy: what are you using for the raid controller? |
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| [19:06:00] | iggy: | promise sataII 150 TX4 |
| [19:06:00] | iggy: | software raid |
| [19:11:00] | Qwertys: | so watch TV is still crashing, that didn't help. it goes to a black screen, and the console completely crashes. mythfronted doesnt write logs does it? because i cant view the console or use it anymore. |
| [19:12:00] | Zugot: | everytime the phone rings, my wireless conection drops |
| [19:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | Qwertys: It will write logs if you tell it to when it/'s started |
| [19:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | and the amount of logging is controllable |
| [19:13:00] | Qwertys: | i want the highest verbosity! |
| [19:13:00] | Leebier: | well, looks like i can have lunch while apt-get is STILL doing it's thing |
| [19:13:00] | Leebier: | bbiab |
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| [19:13:00] | Leebier: | of course, i have no tv to watch, blah |
| [19:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | Qwertys: Thenj turn it on |
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| [19:13:00] | Qwertys: | how? :P |
| [19:13:00] | GreyFoxx: | mythfrontend --help should tell you everything :) |
| [19:14:00] | Qwertys: | ok |
| [19:15:00] | Qwertys: | unfortunatly, because it crashes, i'll hafta reboot, get me logs, reboot again. :/ |
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| [19:32:00] | Qwertys: | ok heres the error from the log: |
| [19:32:00] | Qwertys: | 2005-05–28 11:32:01.672 audio waiting for buffer to fill: have 1024 want 4096 |
| [19:32:00] | Qwertys: | 2005-05–28 11:32:01.672 Broadcasting free space avail |
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| [19:36:00] | Qwertys: | is there a way to disable sound output? |
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| [19:45:00] | rjune: | Qwertys: Uhm, completely? or just turn audio down? |
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| [19:48:00] | Qwertys: | completely |
| [19:49:00] | rjune: | remove the audio card seems to be the best reason |
| [19:49:00] | Qwertys: | i think it is causing that error. :/ |
| [19:49:00] | Qwertys: | its onboard... |
| [19:49:00] | GotD0t: | anybody ever put a myth frontend on an xbox? |
| [19:50:00] | rjune: | Qwertys: oh, Uhm... can you disable it in BIOS? |
| [19:50:00] | Qwertys: | yea, just did. trying it now |
| [19:51:00] | Qwertys: | it made the log like 5 gb |
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| [19:51:00] | Qwertys: | from all the report messages |
| [19:51:00] | rjune: | ouch |
| [19:52:00] | rjune: | in the MythNews section, is there a way to reload feeds? |
| [19:52:00] | Qwertys: | does it matter if i run mythfrontend or mythtv? |
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| [19:53:00] | rjune: | yeah, |
| [19:53:00] | rjune: | mythfrontend |
| [19:53:00] | kgbudz: | i have a slave backend, and when it records, it stores the recordings locally |
| [19:53:00] | kgbudz: | and when i try to watch them on the master backend |
| [19:53:00] | kgbudz: | they are unaccessable |
| [19:53:00] | kgbudz: | ? |
| [19:54:00] | rjune: | kgbudz: try setting up an NFS share |
| [19:54:00] | rjune: | I think it's mentioned in the docs, but I've not gotten there yet |
| [19:54:00] | kgbudz: | what do you mean |
| [19:54:00] | kgbudz: | like nfs which drive? |
| [19:55:00] | kgbudz: | the slave drive |
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| [19:55:00] | rjune: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-22.html#ss22.10 |
| [19:55:00] | kgbudz: | on the master machine? |
| [19:55:00] | rjune: | kgbudz: I've not done it yet, so I'm guess |
| [19:55:00] | rjune: | guessing |
| [19:55:00] | Qwertys: | 2005-05–28 11:55:08.434 Timed out waiting for free video buffers. |
| [19:55:00] | Qwertys: | new error message |
| [19:55:00] | Qwertys: | think running at 1600x1200 is a problem? |
| [19:56:00] | rjune: | duno, I use 800x600 |
| [19:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | Qwertys: running myth fullscreen? |
| [19:57:00] | rjune: | hiya foxx |
| [19:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | hey |
| [19:58:00] | Qwertys: | GreyFoxx: yes |
| [19:58:00] | Qwertys: | can i run it windowed? |
| [19:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | Qwertys: HDTV content ? |
| [19:58:00] | Qwertys: | no |
| [19:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | Qwertys: Yeah, it can |
| [19:59:00] | Qwertys: | but 720x480 |
| [19:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | I can't imagine 720x480 analog content scaled up to 1600x1200 not lookling like crap :) |
| [19:59:00] | Squidy: | why when i enter in channel edit.. the scan channel is not habillity? |
| [19:59:00] | Qwertys: | well, i have a very nice lcd. :) |
| [19:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | Squidy: using dvb ? |
| [19:59:00] | Qwertys: | how do i window it? |
| [20:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | Qwertys: It's on of the options in the setuip menus. probably in Appearance but I don't remember specifically |
| [20:01:00] | Squidy: | GreyFoxx, i think so not |
| [20:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | scanning for channels is used with a dvb capture card. Not for a bttv or pvrx50 card |
| [20:02:00] | Squidy: | :( then my card dont support in mythtv for scan channels |
| [20:02:00] | Squidy: | i use bttv card |
| [20:03:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah, I don't think myth supports scanning for channels on bttv cards. It's generally doesn't need to as it gets channel information from where ever your listings come from |
| [20:04:00] | Qwertys: | GreyFoxx: thanks, windowed is much better, no more rebooting everytime... |
| [20:05:00] | Squidy: | im from brazil.. and mythtv support the xmltv for my cabletv? |
| [20:05:00] | Qwertys: | nevermind... it still destroyed X |
| [20:05:00] | Qwertys: | but mouse moves around. :P |
| [20:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | Squidy: I don't know how you would get listings in Brazil |
| [20:06:00] | GreyFoxx: | You could try asking in the mythtv-users mailing list if noone here knows |
| [20:06:00] | Squidy: | okay |
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| [20:08:00] | Qwertys: | it looks like it might be an X problem |
| [20:10:00] | GotD0t: | anybody have any experience with putting a mythtv frontend on an xbox? |
| [20:11:00] | rjune: | Uhm, wow |
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| [20:12:00] | RoCkY: | hello, i compiled mythtv and mythplugins but mythfrontend does not see plugins ? where does that info about which plugins to use lie ? |
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| [20:13:00] | rjune: | ok, I want to update plot and rating info for some shows. |
| [20:13:00] | rjune: | so I go into the database and do this: update videometadata set plot = 'a boy and his armor' where category = 5; |
| [20:14:00] | rjune: | yet, for some reason, the frontend still shows None for plot |
| [20:14:00] | rjune: | anybody got any ideas? |
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| [20:14:00] | kgbudz: | ok, i got it working |
| [20:14:00] | kgbudz: | i NFS'ed the slave video directory |
| [20:15:00] | kgbudz: | onto my master backend server |
| [20:15:00] | Qwertys: | congrats, at least someone here can get stuff working. :/ |
| [20:15:00] | kgbudz: | and now the recordings are watchable |
| [20:15:00] | kgbudz: | and span different servers |
| [20:15:00] | kgbudz: | it seemed like the mythtv docs were telling you to do it the other way around |
| [20:16:00] | kgbudz: | NFS the master backend video directory onto the slave server |
| [20:16:00] | kgbudz: | so they both share 1 video directory |
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| [20:17:00] | Leebier: | great, no audio |
| [20:18:00] | Esotericisms: | afternoon all |
| [20:18:00] | RoCkY: | when compiling , does one have to compile plugins first and then mythtv? or is it irelevant |
| [20:21:00] | kgbudz: | what theme do you guys use? |
| [20:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | kgbudz: I prefer Classic Blue |
| [20:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | RoCkY: Compile mythtv first (and install it) then compile the plugins |
| [20:22:00] | RoCkY: | kgbudz : blue |
| [20:22:00] | jemarcks: | Any transcode gurus here to look at an error message? |
| [20:22:00] | RoCkY: | GreyFoxx : i did in such manor but mythtvfrontend does not c the plugins |
| [20:22:00] | jemarcks: | My transcode fails with this error. |
| [20:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | are you sure you installed them? |
| [20:23:00] | Gumby: | when trying to run nuvexport (as root) I get the following... |
| [20:23:00] | jemarcks: | [encode_ffmpeg] mpa codec not found ! |
| [20:23:00] | jemarcks: | [transcode] warning : (encoder.c) audio export module error: init failed |
| [20:23:00] | jemarcks: | [transcode] critical: failed to init encoder |
| [20:23:00] | jemarcks: | Error: transcode failed, file not successfully encoded! |
| [20:23:00] | rjune: | how do I set the fonts mythtv uses? specificly I would like mythnews to be a bit bigger |
| [20:23:00] | Gumby: | "Waiting for mythtranscode to set up the fifos. |
| [20:23:00] | Gumby: | Waited too long for mythtranscode to create its fifos. Please try again." |
| [20:23:00] | RoCkY: | make ; make install on both mythtv and plugins |
| [20:23:00] | Gumby: | anyone have any ideas? |
| [20:23:00] | RoCkY: | jemarcks : install the ffmpeg |
| [20:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | RoCkY: check /usr/local/lib for the libmyth* plugin libraries |
| [20:24:00] | jemarcks: | rocky, it is installed. [mythtv@htpc1 edit]$ rpm -q ffmpeg |
| [20:24:00] | jemarcks: | ffmpeg-0.4.9–7_cvs20050418.rhfc3.at |
| [20:25:00] | jemarcks: | somehow its missing the mpa codec |
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| [20:25:00] | GreyFoxx: | RoCkY: Soory I mean /usr/local/lib/mythtv/plugins directory |
| [20:25:00] | RoCkY: | GreyFoxx : no such dir :( |
| [20:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | Then either it was installed somewhere else, or something didn't work when you did your make install |
| [20:26:00] | jemarcks: | xirs, can you help with transcode errors? |
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| [20:26:00] | jemarcks: | xris, can you help with transcode errors? |
| [20:26:00] | GreyFoxx: | Rock search /usr for a plugins directory |
| [20:26:00] | amax: | Hello! I just bought a WinTV PVR-150, what ivtv driver do you recommend? .2 or .3? |
| [20:26:00] | jemarcks: | amax, i have a pvr150 and i use ivtv 3.4a |
| [20:27:00] | RoCkY: | GreyFoxx : it appears i have bad symlink that points /usr/local/lib/mythtv to non_existing dir |
| [20:27:00] | amax: | rgr jemarcks |
| [20:27:00] | rjune: | RoCkY: that would do it |
| [20:27:00] | RoCkY: | GreyFoxx : tnx i's ok now:) |
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| [20:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | RoCkY: You have a symlink for that? Weird, I have an actually directory for usr/local/lib/mythtv and mythtv/plugins |
| [20:28:00] | RoCkY: | amax : pvr150 works only with 3.x driver |
| [20:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | but if it's working now then that's what matters :) |
| [20:28:00] | amax: | jemarcks: where can I get v3.4? :) I can only see til v .3.3 |
| [20:28:00] | mchou: | wow, a sub $500 laptop at circuit city..... |
| [20:28:00] | RoCkY: | GreyFoxx : i removed the symlinks and repeted make install on both plugins and base and it's ok now:) |
| [20:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | cool :) |
| [20:28:00] | jemarcks: | amax, change to 'testing' instead of 'stable' |
| [20:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://www.ivtv.tv/ |
| [20:29:00] | amax: | RoCkY: I saw, somewhere, that v 0.2 have the backported drivers for the 150 |
| [20:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | for the source |
| [20:29:00] | amax: | jemarcks: gotcha,... |
| [20:29:00] | jemarcks: | :) |
| [20:29:00] | Leebier: | um, "apt-get install mythtv-suite" |
| [20:29:00] | Leebier: | it can't find the package |
| [20:29:00] | Leebier: | that puts a bit of a crimp on setting up the mythbox |
| [20:29:00] | Qwertys: | i'm going to do an emerge -u world, be back in a couple days. :) |
| [20:29:00] | amax: | Leebier: try mythtv all by itself |
| [20:30:00] | Leebier: | still nothin |
| [20:30:00] | Leebier: | and my internet connection seems to be working fine :) |
| [20:30:00] | jemarcks: | leebier, is your /etc/apt/sources.list setup ? |
| [20:30:00] | amax: | Leebier: did you add the proper source to your sources file? |
| [20:31:00] | Leebier: | i setup the kickstart from ATPrms |
| [20:31:00] | RoCkY: | Leebier : the package name is mythtv |
| [20:31:00] | Leebier: | it downloaded a good 500MB of updates |
| [20:31:00] | RoCkY: | Leebier : not mythtv-suite |
| [20:31:00] | Leebier: | mythtv results in the same message |
| [20:31:00] | RoCkY: | apt-cache search myth |
| [20:32:00] | Leebier: | nothin |
| [20:32:00] | Leebier: | # |
| [20:32:00] | amax: | Leebier: add this to your sources.list |
| [20:32:00] | RoCkY: | then no packages are available |
| [20:32:00] | amax: | deb http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv |
| [20:32:00] | amax: | ^^^ add it |
| [20:32:00] | RoCkY: | Leebier : and after adding that to sources.list do apt-get update |
| [20:32:00] | RoCkY: | and then check apt-cache search myth |
| [20:33:00] | RoCkY: | if it shows do apt-get install mythtv and that's that (mostly);-) |
| [20:33:00] | amax: | RoCkY: mostly is an understatement. :) |
| [20:33:00] | amax: | hehe |
| [20:33:00] | Leebier: | i'm aware, this is setup #2, |
| [20:34:00] | RoCkY: | :-) |
| [20:34:00] | Leebier: | dumb question though... |
| [20:34:00] | Leebier: | in the sources.list, what goes in front of the address? rpm? |
| [20:35:00] | amax: | o_O |
| [20:35:00] | amax: | add it as I put it here... deb http://..... |
| [20:35:00] | Leebier: | ok, i did put deb |
| [20:35:00] | Leebier: | and it spat out an error |
| [20:35:00] | amax: | are you using debian? |
| [20:35:00] | Leebier: | no |
| [20:35:00] | Leebier: | which would be the problem :) |
| [20:35:00] | amax: | indeed |
| [20:35:00] | Leebier: | KDE |
| [20:35:00] | amax: | ooooook |
| [20:36:00] | amax: | debian is a linux distribution, kde is a windowing system |
| [20:36:00] | Leebier: | d'oh |
| [20:36:00] | Leebier: | FC3 |
| [20:36:00] | ** Leebier is hungover ** | |
| [20:36:00] | amax: | cant help ya then... im a debian user, not fedora |
| [20:36:00] | RoCkY: | m2 |
| [20:37:00] | RoCkY: | Leebier : check the fedora guide |
| [20:37:00] | Leebier: | i'm on it |
| [20:37:00] | jemarcks: | fedora here |
| [20:37:00] | Leebier: | that's how i've gotten this far :) |
| [20:37:00] | amax: | jemarcks: theres v .3.5,... would this be ok you think? |
| [20:37:00] | Leebier: | am trying something on there now, hopefully this does it |
| [20:38:00] | jemarcks: | amax, wow.. they have progressed a lot in the 2 weeks since i got mine. I duno... worth a shot. |
| [20:38:00] | Leebier: | rebuilddb |
| [20:38:00] | Leebier: | see if something got corrupted in there somehow |
| [20:38:00] | Leebier: | and it just occured to me, i wonder of Axel has myth as testing instead of stable |
| [20:39:00] | amax: | ok, if im able to get this going illl let you know... i've already set up mythtv, but on an ati tv wonder ve card... with that I just had to load the module, not compile it ;) |
| [20:40:00] | RoCkY: | any ideas why mythgallery would show only thumbs and when supposed to show full screen photo only black is shown :( |
| [20:42:00] | mace__: | has anyone tinkered with pvr350 (or 250) and svideo? |
| [20:43:00] | mace__: | i'm having problems getting a picture (although sound appears to be working correctly) |
| [20:44:00] | Leebier: | alright, here we go, |
| [20:46:00] | Gumby: | mace__: have you edited xorg/XF86Config and changed the monitor output? |
| [20:46:00] | mace__: | to give a little more info – i had myth set up with rf input, and that works fine (as does the OSD) |
| [20:46:00] | Gumby: | Option "TVOutFormat" "composite" <-- I have that for composite |
| [20:47:00] | Gumby: | ah |
| [20:47:00] | Gumby: | so its just livetv that doesnt work well |
| [20:47:00] | mace__: | the OSD is still working after i tweaked the video card and input connections, but i just get no picture |
| [20:47:00] | mace__: | yeah |
| [20:47:00] | mace__: | sound comes through fine though |
| [20:47:00] | Gumby: | no idea. havnt messed with it |
| [20:48:00] | mace__: | ah well. hopefully someone here'll know – i've tried searching the list but not hit on the answer yet |
| [20:49:00] | mace__: | hm, possibly i need to use something other than svideo0 |
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| [21:08:00] | GeckoFiend: | mace__ I use svideo0 on my PV250 and M179 |
| [21:08:00] | mace__: | m179? |
| [21:09:00] | mace__: | anyhow, i just cycled through svideo0 through to 3, restarting the back end each time, and no picture |
| [21:10:00] | mace__: | what're the chances that one of the composite inputs (0 to 4) will work? |
| [21:10:00] | mace__: | this is with a scart -> svideo cable from an ntl box |
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| [21:26:00] | mace__: | hm, looks like it might simply be due to the box not supporting svideo output |
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| [21:46:00] | lunasun: | ERROR appears at MAKE |
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| [21:55:00] | Leebier: | hey, dumb question, how do i get rpm to tell me the version of a module? |
| [21:55:00] | Leebier: | nevermind |
| [21:58:00] | Squidy: | hi.. when i try to compile xmltv i receive bad makefile line: ' $(NOECHO) $(NOOP)' at Makefile.PL line 963. |
| [21:59:00] | Squidy: | can anybory help me? |
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| [22:25:00] | huey: | does anyone know if there is a way that i can get my digital cable to work when i use mythtv on a pvr that i am building? |
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| [22:35:00] | xris: | huey: elaborate |
| [22:35:00] | xris: | short answer is "yes" though |
| [22:35:00] | rjune: | what version of xmame do I need to use with myth? |
| [22:35:00] | jemarcks: | xris, hello again |
| [22:36:00] | xris: | alo |
| [22:36:00] | jemarcks: | xris, transcode fails with an error on my box. |
| [22:36:00] | huey: | xris: well, i have adelphia digital cable at my house with a cable box, and i wanted to get digital cable on another computer without a cable box and i was wondering if there was some way to get the channels without another box |
| [22:36:00] | xris: | what error? |
| [22:36:00] | jemarcks: | [encode_ffmpeg] mpa codec not found ! |
| [22:36:00] | jemarcks: | [transcode] warning : (encoder.c) audio export module error: init failed |
| [22:36:00] | jemarcks: | [transcode] critical: failed to init encoder |
| [22:36:00] | jemarcks: | Error: transcode failed, file not successfully encoded! |
| [22:37:00] | xris: | huey: if it's not encrypted (highly unlikely), you can do it with an air2pc or pchdtv card. |
| [22:37:00] | jemarcks: | xris, any clues? |
| [22:37:00] | xris: | otherwise, if you pay for HDTV, by law you can request a firewire-capable cable box, and get your feed from there. but you do need the cable box. |
| [22:37:00] | huey: | alright, thanks |
| [22:37:00] | huey: | thanks a lot |
| [22:37:00] | xris: | jemarcks: sounds like it's missing the mpeg audio codec. |
| [22:38:00] | jemarcks: | xris, yeah.. .but how did that happen. i installed using jarods guide.... if i do a apt-get upgrade ffmpeg, will that fix it? |
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| [22:39:00] | xris: | ffmpeg != transcode. |
| [22:39:00] | jemarcks: | aahhh |
| [22:39:00] | xris: | but you may want to try removing/reinstalling transcode and ffmpeg, yes. |
| [22:39:00] | jemarcks: | ok.. ttyl |
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| [22:47:00] | Oshter: | hello.. i did configure my capture cards ok, i think so... but in the tvtime, when i change channel.. my audio (mono) mute |
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| [22:56:00] | Leebier|mythbox: | Am using a PVR-350, and ideas why I'm not getting audio when running a "cat" test ? |
| [22:57:00] | tyce: | having a hard time getting myth to update to .18 under gentoo. It keeps telling me to add mysql to my USE flags and re-emerge Qt. I thought I had done this a couple different ways and it still fails. Any help is appriciated. |
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| [23:23:00] | zacs: | anyone know how to work out scan rates from vendor spec sheets? mine says "Y: 1 Vp-p, 75 ohms negative or tri-level sync, PB: 0.7 Vp-p 75 ohms, PR: 0.7 Vp-p 75 ohms |
| [23:23:00] | zacs: | unfortunately that means nothing to me |
| [23:26:00] | defaultro: | good afternoon guys |
| [23:26:00] | defaultro: | anyone uses nuvexport here? |
| [23:28:00] | Leebier: | anyone around who can lend a hand with the PVR 350 to either figure out why it isn't capturing sound and/or how to get it to display X on my TV |
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| [23:28:00] | defaultro: | just wondering why sound gets out of sync with video starting in the middle until the end of the show |
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| [23:30:00] | defaultro: | are there other tools you guys use other than nuvexport to export nuv file? |
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| [23:54:00] | Buckabooboob: | Anyone know where a troubleshooting guide for ivtv and a pvr500 is? |
| [23:55:00] | opello: | Buckabooboob: i can try to help, mine works fine |
| [23:55:00] | Buckabooboob: | Getting a error trying to cat /dev/video1 or 2 (0 is a 350) |
| [23:56:00] | Buckabooboob: | cat: /dev/video1: Input/output error |
| [23:56:00] | opello: | using the 0.3.2x drivers, right? |
| [23:56:00] | Buckabooboob: | The modules seem to be loaded (Properly is another story of course :) ) |
| [23:56:00] | opello: | heh |
| [23:56:00] | Buckabooboob: | Actually I up on 3.5i |
| [23:57:00] | opello: | wow, didn't know they'd gotten that far |
| [23:57:00] | Buckabooboob: | Yeah... the change log had some entries for working with250/350 better |
| [23:58:00] | Buckabooboob: | so I i went up to 3.5i there was mention it was surpizingly stable ;) |
| [23:58:00] | Buckabooboob: | What Rev you running? |
| [23:58:00] | opello: | the problem i had initially was that i wasn't actually loading the built driver, but the ones built by the kernel |
| [23:58:00] | Buckabooboob: | I can backdate quite quickly |
| [23:58:00] | opello: | 0.3.2o |
| [23:59:00] | Buckabooboob: | I searched and zapped all the msp3400's I could find then placed in the new ones. |
| [23:59:00] | Buckabooboob: | Do you find you get brief pauses watching livetv? I find I need to pause and let it buffer a few seconds before I playback. |
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