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Thursday, May 26th, 2005, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:00] darkfire: Beirdo, i believe it's on the east side of nashville, it's off of I-24/Briley Pkwy
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[00:00:00] Beirdo: thanks
[00:00:00] darkfire: but dont plan your trip around that info without checking it ;)
[00:00:00] Beirdo: my friend's picking me up anyways
[00:00:00] bigslam: where u going beirdo?
[00:00:00] darkfire: kormoc, damn, 1K and that's for bulk packaging? i'd hate to pay the extra $ for a box.
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[00:01:00] Beirdo: yup, by I24/I40 intersection, south-east
[00:01:00] Beirdo: bigslam: Nashville, then Memphis
[00:01:00] xris: bigslam: why do you need such a powerful box?
[00:02:00] Beirdo: doing the redneck thing for a week :)
[00:02:00] xris: bigslam: save your money, and donate the rest of it to the developers.  :)
[00:02:00] bigslam: because i want a powerful box
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[00:03:00] xris: but why waste money when that power wouldn't be used?
[00:03:00] xris: better to disperse your funds to where they'd best be used.
[00:04:00] xris: like a small, quiet good-quality frontend, and a beefy backend.
[00:04:00] xris: myth uses very little cpu except for playing back hd streams
[00:05:00] Beirdo: and commercial marking, but that's backend
[00:05:00] xris: Beirdo: but that can work on slower machines.
[00:06:00] shibz: Xboxes make good frontends
[00:06:00] bigslam: yea they do
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[00:06:00] ** j-rod hates slow commercial flagging **
[00:06:00] xris: xboxes are noisy, as I hear it.
[00:06:00] bigslam: noisy
[00:06:00] bigslam: wtf they dont have any fans but 1.0
[00:06:00] bigslam: oh but the back fan
[00:06:00] rpete: mine is noisy
[00:06:00] bigslam: what u can replace
[00:06:00] ** j-rod runs a dual Athlon MP 2000 for his backend so even a 1hr HDTV show commflags in 30 minutes. :) **
[00:06:00] shibz: you can turn down fan speed or replace the fan
[00:06:00] bigslam: i own the Offical xbmc
[00:06:00] bigslam: for MCE
[00:07:00] bigslam: i like the remote:P
[00:07:00] xris: but if you're shelling out big bucks, a fanless epia would make a great frontend.
[00:07:00] bigslam: http://www.pcalchemy.com/product_info.php/pNa . . . e/htpc-cases
[00:07:00] bigslam: i would love that case
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[00:08:00] Beirdo: xris: but of course
[00:08:00] shibz: I set up my 4 year old dell as backend/frontend and it works fine
[00:08:00] shibz: it isn't too loud
[00:08:00] bigslam: i was thinking of making mine water cooled
[00:09:00] shibz: I have always been afraid to do that, what happens if you get a leak O.o
[00:09:00] xris: http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-lc11.htm
[00:09:00] bigslam: http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-lc09.htm
[00:09:00] bigslam: that would make a good front end
[00:09:00] iggy: I have epia M10000's, it wouldn't take much to put a bigger fanless heatsink on them
[00:09:00] kormoc: shibz, not much to be honest
[00:09:00] bigslam: case
[00:10:00] xris: bigslam: 11 is nicer than 9
[00:10:00] shibz: you would just get your case filled with water
[00:10:00] shibz: and everything would short circuit
[00:10:00] xris: iggy: can they play HD?
[00:10:00] kormoc: shibz, yeah, and you dry it out and it's fine
[00:10:00] bigslam: yea but i need more pci slots
[00:10:00] xris: shibz: water doesn't conduct
[00:10:00] bigslam: then3
[00:10:00] iggy: xris: doubt it, but they can do divx
[00:10:00] kormoc: shibz, my bro's case sprung many a leak, it takes a little to really hurt the eq
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[00:10:00] xris: bigslam: why would you need pci in a frontend?
[00:11:00] DMJC: it works!
[00:11:00] Beirdo: heh
[00:11:00] bigslam: oh frontend
[00:11:00] bigslam: lol ok never mind then
[00:11:00] DMJC: got my stupid runlevels configured
[00:11:00] DMJC: now i can boot into mediabox mode by default using grub
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[00:12:00] DMJC: can X be configured to run without keyboard or mouse support?
[00:12:00] Beirdo: WTF for?
[00:12:00] Beirdo: just disable it in the config
[00:12:00] bigslam: by shell
[00:13:00] xris: bigslam: who cares what the backend looks like? just toss it in a closet.
[00:13:00] DMJC: simple... so I can take my case places without the other crap
[00:13:00] bigslam: m> by shell
[00:13:00] bigslam: [19:11] <+x
[00:13:00] bigslam: err
[00:13:00] bigslam: xris>
[00:13:00] DMJC: I have a remote that works in lirc
[00:13:00] bigslam: thats better im going to use this as both
[00:13:00] bigslam: because its going to be an amd 64bit
[00:13:00] xris: ah
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[00:27:00] BattousaiX: What does everyone convert the files to? I was trying nuv2avi and received a few errors.
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[00:27:00] Agrajag-: use nuvexport
[00:28:00] Beirdo: define "errors"
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[00:30:00] bigslam: hmm is there anything wrong with running the Frontend and backend on the same box?
[00:31:00] BattousaiX: Thanks Agrajag.
[00:31:00] BattousaiX: Beirdo, :(
[00:32:00] Beirdo: what?
[00:32:00] BattousaiX: nuvexport seems slow. :( It's on an athlon 800mhz. :(
[00:32:00] fryfrog: so my new comcast HD PVR recorded 6 shows (1 was a 2 hr movie).... and it was 50% full
[00:32:00] Beirdo: you're saying you're getting errors with nuv2avi. did you post them on the trac setup?
[00:32:00] bigslam: hmm how is comcast stuff?
[00:32:00] bigslam: i have comcast and i saw that
[00:32:00] fryfrog: i'd say it rightly sucks, their pvr that is :)
[00:32:00] Beirdo: http://trac.beirdo.ca/projects/nuvtools
[00:32:00] BattousaiX: Beirdo I'm trying nuvexport.
[00:33:00] fryfrog: BattousaiX: GITS:SAC?
[00:33:00] Beirdo: please report bugs if you find em :)
[00:33:00] BattousaiX: I was looking at the forums. It seemed to be a Lame issue.
[00:33:00] bigslam: i have tivo and i dont like it:/
[00:33:00] Beirdo: and nuvexport will be slow
[00:33:00] BattousaiX: Then now it seems to be a memory issue.
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[00:33:00] Beirdo: what forums?
[00:33:00] BattousaiX: I'll see if I can find the bug.
[00:33:00] fryfrog: any transcoding is gonna be slow on an amd 800mhz cpu
[00:33:00] Beirdo: I don't have forums for nuvtools
[00:33:00] bigslam: a waste of $50 for the tivo
[00:33:00] BattousaiX: http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t= . . . ighlight=nuv
[00:34:00] Beirdo: well, if people don't post the bugs where I ask, I'll never find them
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[00:35:00] mchou: bigslam: hmm?? tivo only cost you $50?
[00:35:00] BattousaiX: It's going to probably take 6 days to convert this nuv. :( 3.3 gig.
[00:35:00] BattousaiX: Yay, I was able to recreate the error.
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[00:36:00] bigslam: yea and a monthly fee
[00:37:00] mchou: bigslam: how much do you pay/mo?
[00:37:00] mchou: for tivo....
[00:37:00] bigslam: i think its $10
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[00:37:00] mchou: bigslam: where did you get tivo for $50? :)
[00:37:00] BattousaiX: Is nuvexport easy to install on gentoo64?
[00:37:00] bigslam: from TiVo
[00:38:00] Beirdo: nuvexport is a perl script with modules
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[00:38:00] Beirdo: it should be easy to install anywhere
[00:38:00] bigslam: refurbished
[00:38:00] BattousaiX: I'm going to try to install on a faster computer. :)
[00:38:00] defy: you guys seen www.craftytv.com yet? bad quality and it streams, but entire seasons for free is still pretty good.
[00:38:00] Beirdo: and I think the ebuilds are relatively up-to-date for the dependencies
[00:39:00] fryfrog: its hard to get used to beirdo saying "ebuilds" :)
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[00:39:00] Beirdo: hehe
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[00:39:00] BattousaiX: I'm not the most patient person, but something about a 3.3 gig file going at 1.3fps is just insane.
[00:39:00] Beirdo: MajestiK_: how are the nuvexport ebuilds? are they reasonably up-to-date dependency-wise?
[00:40:00] fryfrog: yikes, 1.3fps is quite slow :/
[00:40:00] fryfrog: have you tried it some other way to see if its a nuv issue or a slow puter issue?
[00:41:00] BattousaiX: My computer meets the requirements. Hehe.
[00:41:00] BattousaiX: 800mhz athlon, 384 mb. :)
[00:42:00] BattousaiX: I assumed the card would handle most the work.
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[00:43:00] fryfrog: the card?
[00:43:00] fryfrog: do you have some sort of magical mpeg2->mpeg4 transcoding card?
[00:43:00] kormoc: I think he thinks the tv card does that
[00:43:00] fryfrog: ah :/
[00:44:00] fryfrog: if you have a PVRX50, then it does the work of recording in MPEG2 format
[00:44:00] fryfrog: thats all
[00:44:00] riksta: fryfrog++
[00:44:00] riksta: :)
[00:44:00] gnarface: besides, mpeg4 is gay. you should be using theora.
[00:44:00] kormoc: speaking of mpeg4 cards, has anyone tried out the px cards?
[00:44:00] fryfrog: OMG MPEG4 IS NOT GAY!
[00:44:00] gnarface: hahaha.
[00:44:00] fryfrog: i saw him out on a date with a hot woman just yesterday!
[00:44:00] riksta: mpeg4 is the shnizzle
[00:44:00] riksta: fo shizzle
[00:44:00] fryfrog: kormoc: px cards?
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[00:45:00] kormoc: hardware mpeg 4 encoding cards
[00:45:00] fryfrog: from what i understand, direct tv is moving to mpeg4
[00:45:00] Beirdo: BattousaiX: some decade we may have the video cards doing the grunt work, but not yet
[00:46:00] kormoc: fryfrog, http://www.plextor.com/english/products/TV402U.htm
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[00:46:00] kormoc: linux drivers and all that jazz already
[00:46:00] fryfrog: haha, plextor makes tv cards?
[00:47:00] kormoc: http://www.plextor.com/english/news/press/LinuxPVR_pr.htm
[00:47:00] kormoc: yuppies
[00:47:00] fryfrog: wow, it spits out divx, mpeg4, mpeg2
[00:48:00] ** kormoc nods **
[00:48:00] kormoc: hence why I'm intrested in how it works and if myth will ever support it :P
[00:48:00] fryfrog: wow
[00:48:00] fryfrog: they even released a linux sdk and opensource drivers!
[00:49:00] mchou: myth supports it already.
[00:49:00] mchou: Isaac has one
[00:49:00] fryfrog: freakin hauppage should hire ckennedy and do the same damn thing
[00:49:00] fryfrog: looks like it has coax, rca and svideo inputs?
[00:49:00] kormoc: mchou, got any info on it anywhere?
[00:49:00] kormoc: fryfrog, yeah, it's a awesome card...
[00:50:00] fryfrog: i wonder how possible/impossible a card with DVI / HDMI inputs is?
[00:50:00] mchou: kormoc: mythtv-setup :)
[00:50:00] fryfrog: i have to assume impossible due to encryption and patents and stuff :?
[00:50:00] fryfrog: :/
[00:50:00] kormoc: mchou, when I went though it last, I didn't see any options for it, but then I havn't really looked too hard...
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[00:50:00] fryfrog: kormoc: it looks like its just a V4L device, prolly doesn't need anything special
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[00:52:00] kormoc: fryfrog, yeah, I just wanna know for sure before I shell out $200, ya know? :P
[00:52:00] Batty_us: Wow, a lot of masked packages but trying anyway.
[00:52:00] mchou: kormoc: I think it's a tad overpriced myself :)
[00:52:00] Batty_us: I'm also BattousaiX.
[00:53:00] kormoc: mchou, imho, the disk space savings of mpeg4 is worth a little bit more cash :)
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[00:53:00] mchou: kormoc: disks are cheap these days.
[00:53:00] bigslam: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820144145
[00:53:00] bigslam: that would be nice
[00:53:00] kormoc: bigslam, why get ecc?
[00:54:00] mchou: lol, what are you foing to do with all that memory?
[00:54:00] mchou: goining*
[00:54:00] kormoc: mchou, he's putting 4 gigs into his mythbox...
[00:54:00] mchou: going*
[00:54:00] mchou: that's the most ridiculous thing I've heard.
[00:55:00] kormoc: mchou, a pink elepahnt sat on my foot today while eating a clown...
[00:55:00] mchou: my swap doesnt get touched with 512MB :)
[00:56:00] fryfrog: 1G is even enough for teh winblows usually :)
[00:56:00] mchou: sigh, my experiment went awry.....
[00:57:00] fryfrog: i also agree, $200 is a little much for one device
[00:57:00] kormoc: I told ya you shouldn't chain little girls up in your basement...
[00:57:00] mchou: I had they put sugar in McD fries....so I tried it myself.
[00:57:00] fryfrog: i'd rather have a pvr500 or a couple air2pc cards
[00:57:00] fryfrog: ew
[00:57:00] mchou: I had caramel fries instead :)
[00:58:00] fryfrog: hahaha
[00:58:00] kormoc: mchou, they spreay them with beef broth powder, hence why they arn't veggitarian.
[00:58:00] fryfrog: i like wendys fries more
[00:58:00] fryfrog: oh yeah, the comcast HD box has 2 tuners.... but aparantly can only record 1 thing at a time
[00:59:00] fryfrog: i really hope the two firewire ports are 1 for each tuner
[00:59:00] mchou: I like Wendy's more in general, but Weny's friess are decidely average at best.
[00:59:00] mchou: Wendy's
[00:59:00] fryfrog: mmm, no way when they are fresh mmmmm
[00:59:00] fryfrog: though they are nothing like mcd fries
[00:59:00] kormoc: when they are soft and potatoy!
[00:59:00] mchou: well, that the problem, 90% of the time they are stale :)
[00:59:00] fryfrog: so if thats what you like, then can't like wendys :)
[00:59:00] fryfrog: ahaha, true :)
[01:00:00] fryfrog: LOST!
[01:00:00] mchou: but I have a good trick for that. ask for frys "no salt"
[01:00:00] kormoc: wendys around here don't salt their fries.
[01:00:00] mchou: they have to make a fresh batch :)
[01:00:00] kormoc: neather does burger king
[01:00:00] mchou: kormoc: really? They got smart :)
[01:02:00] mchou: lol, at the rate some places put salt on frys, it's not the oil that's going to kill ya, it's the salt :)
[01:03:00] ** Beirdo messes with audioscrobbler's matching algorithms **
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[01:04:00] Beirdo: I dare you to categorize my tastes, beotches
[01:04:00] davred: good morning all...
[01:04:00] riksta: liverpool++
[01:04:00] bigslam: lol
[01:05:00] ** riksta smacks Beirdo round the head with a big fat trout **
[01:05:00] bigslam: u guys are right
[01:05:00] bigslam: maybe i should not do 4GB
[01:05:00] ** Beirdo slaps riksta with a salmon **
[01:05:00] mchou: lol, someone came to their senses.....
[01:06:00] bigslam: nah im going todo 2
[01:06:00] riksta: save your money bigslam
[01:06:00] bigslam: i came to the sence that 4gb is over over over kill
[01:06:00] riksta: salmon is for the poor peeps
[01:06:00] bigslam: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820144322
[01:06:00] fryfrog: 512MB-1G would be plenty :)
[01:06:00] bigslam: i will get that
[01:06:00] mchou: more $ than brains, eh?
[01:07:00] riksta: just don't listen to mchou whatever you do :)
[01:07:00] bigslam: nah i would like to use the box not just for mythtv
[01:07:00] mchou: bigslam: so name some apps you gonna run.....
[01:07:00] Beirdo: salmon rules
[01:07:00] Beirdo: what are you smokin?
[01:07:00] riksta: rainbow trout?
[01:07:00] bigslam: hmm lol
[01:07:00] bigslam: Mythtv:)
[01:08:00] Beirdo: I'll take a pacific salmon over rainbow trout, although it's yummy
[01:08:00] riksta: grrrrrr
[01:08:00] mchou: there is just no call for >1GB for a "personal use" desktop.
[01:08:00] riksta: kippers++
[01:09:00] Beirdo: how.... British of you
[01:09:00] mchou: A big monster server, or CAD, maybe I might consider or memory.
[01:09:00] riksta: stinky kippers hehehe
[01:09:00] bigslam: but the GeIL Value 1GB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM System Memory is sooo pretty
[01:09:00] riksta: bigslam: shut up
[01:09:00] Beirdo: hmm?
[01:09:00] riksta: pretty schmitty
[01:10:00] bigslam: i dont see what the problem is me getting a amd 64bit
[01:10:00] Beirdo: you getting all jealous, riksta?
[01:10:00] bigslam: and 2gb OR 4gb of ram
[01:10:00] Beirdo: there is no problem
[01:10:00] riksta: Beirdo: only of you, my darling ;)
[01:10:00] Beirdo: > 1GB RAM is a waste of your money
[01:10:00] darkfire: oooh, this logitech wireless gamepad is sleek.
[01:10:00] Beirdo: but it's YOUR money
[01:10:00] mchou: even if memory is "cheap" these days.....
[01:10:00] bigslam: i might just use the 64bit in my computer and run windows 64bit and put a 1.3GHZ althon xp in it
[01:11:00] ** Beirdo continues to confound audioscrobbler **
[01:11:00] darkfire: argh, windows 64bit :(
[01:11:00] darkfire: what a headache
[01:11:00] Beirdo: argh, windows
[01:11:00] darkfire: i used windows 64bit for a while. good luck with the drivers, because they arent there.
[01:11:00] Batty_us: Beirdo what was the link again? I'm on another computer.
[01:11:00] mchou: bigslam: still more $ than brains :)
[01:11:00] bigslam: they will come out soon
[01:12:00] darkfire: bigslam, they are out NOW for linux
[01:12:00] riksta: iom off to bed nite nite
[01:12:00] Beirdo: Batty_us: http://trac.beirdo.ca/projects/nuvtools
[01:12:00] Batty_us: Good night.
[01:12:00] Batty_us: Thanks.
[01:12:00] riksta: cya Beirdo mchou etc
[01:12:00] bigslam: darkfire> i never said they wernt
[01:12:00] Beirdo: night, riksta
[01:12:00] darkfire: and they will always be out, even if you upgrade to 128bit, as long as there is a compiler
[01:12:00] mchou: lol. "soon" in Microsoft terminology means forever minus one day.
[01:12:00] fryfrog: "...nitro glycerine is very tempermental BOOOOM"
[01:13:00] darkfire: eh, sorry, i've turned into one of those linux advocates that hates windows. i'll take the linux brand of pain in the ass computer problems over the windows brand any day.
[01:13:00] Beirdo: hehe
[01:13:00] Beirdo: yeah
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[01:13:00] davred: many mythtv users using DVB?
[01:13:00] Beirdo: although I still use 'blows. XP on an AMD64 actually :)
[01:13:00] Beirdo: it's for playing games
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[01:14:00] fryfrog: i've been running 64bit XP for a while, had drivers for everything i needed
[01:14:00] bigslam: :)
[01:14:00] fryfrog: only thing that didn't work in 64bit xp was daemon-tools
[01:14:00] Beirdo: WTF is that?
[01:14:00] bigslam: ahh theres alot of other then d-tools
[01:14:00] fryfrog: its a virtual cdrom tool, lets you mount isos
[01:15:00] bigslam: like alochol 120%
[01:15:00] Beirdo: oh right
[01:15:00] Beirdo: meh
[01:15:00] fryfrog: easier to mount an iso than keep all my cds
[01:15:00] fryfrog: bigslam: i'll have to look into another one, any other suggestions?
[01:15:00] fryfrog: i like deamon cause its free
[01:15:00] bigslam: hmm yea
[01:15:00] mchou: hmm, that's asuuming your CDs arent copy-protected. :)
[01:15:00] bigslam: d-tools is nice
[01:15:00] BattousaiX: Beirdo getting a 404 on the formmail page.
[01:15:00] fryfrog: uh
[01:16:00] Beirdo: hmmm?
[01:16:00] fryfrog: daemon-tools emulates them :)
[01:16:00] Beirdo: what are you talking about, BattousaiX?
[01:16:00] darkfire: daemon-tools emulates the cd-protection schemes?
[01:16:00] mchou: fryfrog: huh???
[01:16:00] bigslam: yea
[01:16:00] bigslam: like safedisc and shit
[01:16:00] mchou: I doubt daemon-tools will deal very well with SafeDisk and the like......
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[01:17:00] Beirdo: what formmail page?
[01:17:00] bigslam: i doesnt:P
[01:17:00] bigslam: but thats if its a cd clone
[01:17:00] mchou: all those "weak sectors"
[01:18:00] fryfrog: mchou: its not a copy program
[01:18:00] fryfrog: it lets you mount existing iso/bin/cue/ccd
[01:18:00] Beirdo: anyways, that's just SO far off topic. hehe
[01:18:00] bigslam: fryfrog> looks like in there next rls they will have support for 64bit
[01:18:00] mchou: fryfrog: lol. but you have to sucessfully make a good iso first :)
[01:18:00] bigslam: k:)
[01:19:00] BattousaiX: Batty_us: http://trac.beirdo.ca/projects/nuvtools I thought you wanted me to submit the error.
[01:19:00] fryfrog: mchou: that surely is true :)
[01:19:00] Beirdo: yeah
[01:19:00] Beirdo: put in a ticket
[01:19:00] darkfire: can anyone point me at a good HOWTO for setting up a gamepad?
[01:19:00] Beirdo: google
[01:19:00] Beirdo: :)
[01:19:00] fryfrog: did you try tubgirl.com?
[01:19:00] mchou: darkfire: huh??? Just plug it in man :)
[01:20:00] bigslam: dont post that shit fryfrog
[01:20:00] darkfire: oh yeah, lemme try tubgirl
[01:20:00] bigslam: dont goto it
[01:20:00] darkfire: before or after i hit ctrl alt backspace?
[01:20:00] bigslam: hmm anyone have a good wireless keyboard they like i want one?
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[01:20:00] ** Beirdo slaps mchou with a large trout **
[01:20:00] Beirdo: err
[01:20:00] darkfire: misfire!
[01:20:00] Beirdo: fryfrog, not mchou
[01:20:00] Beirdo: sorry, mchou
[01:22:00] mchou: darkfire: shut down computer. plug in gamepad. turn on computer. play.
[01:22:00] BattousaiX: Beirdo: http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/ticket/1596#preview Sent. Thanks.
[01:22:00] Beirdo: ummm, no
[01:22:00] Bob-Laptop: bigslam: I have one I hate
[01:22:00] darkfire: hrmm, i always thought there'd have to be /dev/ and other things involved.
[01:22:00] Beirdo: submit a ticket on trac.beirdo.ca/projects/nuvtools
[01:23:00] BattousaiX: I need to call comcast back out, my video had bad quality.
[01:23:00] Beirdo: not on trac
[01:23:00] mchou: darkfire: of course.
[01:23:00] bigslam: BattousaiX> it could be your drop
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[01:23:00] mchou: darkfire: the gamepad will be probed.
[01:23:00] darkfire: poor little fella
[01:23:00] Beirdo: http://trac.beirdo.ca/projects/nuvtools
[01:23:00] Beirdo: then click on "new ticket"
[01:24:00] Beirdo: you put your ticket on trac's site, not on my trac site
[01:24:00] Beirdo: hehe
[01:24:00] darkfire: mchou, no need to restart, it probed it and gave it js0
[01:24:00] bigslam: u guys use IR Remotes for your mythtv boxes?
[01:24:00] BattousaiX: Beirdo I was there a few times. I'm tired.
[01:24:00] darkfire: bigslam, i just bought a niveusmedia RF remote, hopefully that'll work out
[01:25:00] BattousaiX: Going to sleep now. I'll probably fall to sleep at work again. My brain cannot function on 2 hours of sleep/night over the last 3 weeks.
[01:25:00] BattousaiX: http://trac.beirdo.ca/projects/nuvtools/ticket/4#preview Done.
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[01:25:00] mchou: lol, RF remotes suck.
[01:25:00] darkfire: before that, i used the PVR-350's remote, which worked well
[01:25:00] bigslam: i have the XBMC remote i could try that hmm
[01:25:00] BattousaiX: Cya, beirdo and xiran thanks for all the help.
[01:25:00] darkfire: bah, don't say that, it JUST got here
[01:25:00] darkfire: why would RF remotes suck?
[01:26:00] mchou: try using a learning remote on an RF remote :)
[01:26:00] Beirdo: BattousaiX: thanks, you may need to add more details later, but get some sleep
[01:26:00] darkfire: mchou, the niveusmedia remote is RF/IR learning :-p
[01:26:00] mchou: darkfire: I have one, and I dont use it.
[01:27:00] darkfire: why?
[01:27:00] mchou: I have one for all (OFA) remote, that's all I need.
[01:27:00] mchou: works on everything. JP1 compatible too.
[01:27:00] Beirdo: BattousaiX: what is the source format of these files?
[01:28:00] mchou: not to mentions the stick feel to the buttons on niveus remote
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[01:29:00] darkfire: yeah, they do feel a bit odd.
[01:29:00] darkfire: <insert mchou pissing on my parade here>
[01:29:00] mchou: hehe, plenty more where that came from. My bladder feels rather full right now.
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[01:30:00] Skaface: hey, is it just me or does mythmusic always revert to "random" even after you change it in the settings
[01:36:00] darkfire: ok, off topic, but i can't find any information on how to configure Xorg/Xmame/this durned computer to use a gamepad. any pointers? google is letting me down.
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[01:44:00] Beirdo: kormoc: I'm busily confusing audioscrobbler
[01:44:00] ** Beirdo is not a one-genre music lover **
[01:45:00] ** kormoc laughs **
[01:45:00] kormoc: hehe :)
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[01:46:00] Beirdo: I do tend to listen to entire CDs at once sitting though
[01:48:00] bigslam: if i wanted to watch Digital TV i would need a PVR and if i want to watch cable tv i would need a WintTV Card right?
[01:48:00] fryfrog: no
[01:49:00] fryfrog: you could use either card to do both
[01:49:00] fryfrog: to watch "digital" cable, you'll need the cable company's digital box and a card with rca/svideo inputs
[01:49:00] bigslam: put for Ditital Satellite i need DVB right?
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[01:49:00] jd86: I just installed mythtv, when i try to "Watch TV" all i see is green, what can i have done wrong?
[01:49:00] fryfrog: if you are in the US, i think you'll still need to use a tv card with svideo/rca inputs
[01:50:00] fryfrog: but i don't know much about DVB
[01:50:00] Beirdo: jd86: sounds like it might be an XV issue
[01:50:00] Beirdo: not sure
[01:50:00] bigslam: whats a good PVR card?
[01:50:00] jasoncohen: bigslam, you can use the svideo/RCA output on your digital cable or satellite box and connect to a PVR card
[01:50:00] Beirdo: bigslam: in US, you will need a normal receiver for satellite, then capture off svideo
[01:50:00] fryfrog: the PVR250 has great support, the PVR150 is getting great support
[01:50:00] jasoncohen: what's the status on pvr-150 support?
[01:51:00] bigslam: im looking for one with a decoder
[01:51:00] fryfrog: i believe quite a few people in the chan use it
[01:51:00] Beirdo: bigslam: then you want a PVR350
[01:51:00] fryfrog: bigslam: you mean a hardware mpeg2 encoder?
[01:51:00] jasoncohen: i'm still glad i got my pvr-250
[01:51:00] bigslam: yea
[01:51:00] Beirdo: they all have encoders
[01:51:00] Beirdo: the 250, 150, 350 and 500
[01:51:00] fryfrog: or do you mean the PVR350 whcih has TV output?
[01:51:00] Beirdo: but only the 350 has the decoder
[01:52:00] jasoncohen: anyone have the motorola 15db signal booster (amp)?
[01:52:00] bigslam: the 350 is like $191 right?
[01:52:00] jd86: Beirdo: what do you think it can be?
[01:52:00] fryfrog: unless you like torture, i'd go for a PVR250 or 150 and use an nvidia based GF4+ card for tv out :)
[01:53:00] Beirdo: likely xv not setup right
[01:53:00] jasoncohen: is the tv-out on the radeon that bad?
[01:53:00] bigslam: hmm yea i would do that
[01:53:00] jd86: Beirdo: how do you setup xv?
[01:53:00] Beirdo: it's part of the X setup stuff
[01:53:00] jasoncohen: Beirdo, you're still doing tv-out on your radeon 9600 pro, right?
[01:53:00] jd86: alrighto
[01:53:00] fryfrog: jasoncohen: i dunno, probably not but nvidia has classicly good support in teh linux
[01:53:00] Beirdo: jasoncohen: yes
[01:54:00] jasoncohen: Beirdo, do you know if you have xv support on both screens? i.e can you play videos on either?
[01:54:00] bigslam: hmm
[01:54:00] Beirdo: the TV-out on the radeons is BETTER than nvidia
[01:54:00] Beirdo: better
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[01:54:00] bigslam: whats a good site to get a 250?
[01:54:00] bigslam: newegg doesnt have it that i can see
[01:54:00] johnl: hey, need some help please
[01:54:00] jasoncohen: bigslam, pcalchemy.com
[01:54:00] Beirdo: no you can ONLY to XV overlay on the primary display
[01:54:00] Beirdo: do even
[01:54:00] Beirdo: and I'm fairly sure the same is true with nvidia
[01:54:00] johnl: somehow my pvr150 started capturing only the left half of the video feed from my cable... how can I fix that?
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[01:55:00] jasoncohen: why is that Beirdo?
[01:55:00] Beirdo: that's the way the chips work
[01:55:00] jasoncohen: how about if you use the dual head support with seperate drivers?
[01:55:00] Beirdo: huh?
[01:55:00] Beirdo: I dunno, search the web
[01:55:00] Beirdo: it's a hardware limitation
[01:55:00] Beirdo: and I'm pretty sure both will have it
[01:56:00] jasoncohen: Beirdo, i thought you could have two seperate screens using their own driver on the dual-head radeons
[01:56:00] Beirdo: there's only so much the chips can do at once PCI-wise
[01:56:00] jasoncohen: it's one of the options
[01:56:00] bigslam: will the MCE still work for Mythtv?
[01:56:00] jasoncohen: yes
[01:56:00] johnl: mine does
[01:56:00] jasoncohen: i have a MCE
[01:56:00] johnl: except the image is off center
[01:56:00] bigslam: ahh nice sweet
[01:56:00] bigslam: ok
[01:56:00] jasoncohen: johnl, not here
[01:56:00] johnl: i really need some help fixing it :)
[01:56:00] jasoncohen: it's fine here
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[01:56:00] johnl: jason, what do you mean?
[01:57:00] jasoncohen: my video is not off center
[01:57:00] jasoncohen: it's perfectly fine
[01:57:00] johnl: somehow mine got off center
[01:57:00] bigslam: Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-250MCE (OEM) or Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-250MCE 975 ?
[01:57:00] johnl: i just did my install today and it was fine, then i messed with some settings in the front end and now its off cnter
[01:57:00] jasoncohen: johnl, ah, one sec
[01:57:00] Beirdo: so unmess with the settings :)
[01:58:00] johnl: i did
[01:58:00] johnl: lol, it didnt work :(
[01:58:00] jasoncohen: johnl, go to setup, then appearance
[01:58:00] johnl: i changed the recording resolution from 480x480 to 720x480, then back because it didnt like that
[01:58:00] jasoncohen: on the second page make sure X and Y offset are 0
[01:58:00] jd86: Beirdo: i wouldn't know how to fix such xv problems
[01:58:00] jasoncohen: you didn't like 720x480?
[01:59:00] johnl: they are set to zero, i think its an IVTV problem, because if i stream the feed through mplayer outside of myth its off
[01:59:00] johnl: jason, it didnt like it... that was the beginning of it screwin up
[01:59:00] jasoncohen: when then unload the driver and reload it...see if it fixes it
[01:59:00] bigslam: whats the differents from OEM and 975?
[01:59:00] johnl: ...linux newbie (well mostly anyways) how can i do that
[01:59:00] johnl: modprobe?
[02:00:00] johnl: or like uninstall the ivtv drivers
[02:00:00] jasoncohen: johnl, you can restart or rmmod ivtv and then modprobe ivtv
[02:00:00] jasoncohen: um...you don't need to uninstall them
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[02:00:00] zacs: has anyone in here got lircd working with a scientific atlanta 3200 dtv terminal?
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[02:01:00] johnl: ive tried restarting and it hasnt helped either
[02:01:00] Nod51: anyone played around with IR Blaster?
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[02:01:00] johnl: like rebooting the computer
[02:01:00] zacs: Nod51: i'm fighting with the ACT-200L right now
[02:02:00] jasoncohen: johnl, ok, then nevermind
[02:02:00] travolta: i'v manually deleted some *.nuv files with rm, but the recorded shows still show up in mythtv, how can i remove them?
[02:02:00] Beirdo: by not doing that
[02:02:00] Nod51: yeah mine is unpredictible
[02:02:00] johnl: lol
[02:02:00] Beirdo: delete them only from the frontend
[02:02:00] zacs: travolta: that's in the db
[02:02:00] Beirdo: to fix it
[02:02:00] Nod51: about 1/10 of the time it actually changes to the right channel
[02:02:00] jasoncohen: travolta, lol, why did you do that?
[02:03:00] Beirdo: do "touch file" for every file you rm'd
[02:03:00] Beirdo: then delete them from the frontend
[02:03:00] jasoncohen: travolta, you should delete it from mythfrontend or mythweb so it deletes from the db
[02:03:00] travolta: i didnt delete them i formated the partition the recordings where on and are now gone
[02:03:00] opello: myth is crashing on me when it kicks me off of livetv to record — have to restart the backend, and both the back and frontend die silently (no logging, frontend just says 'Killed')
[02:03:00] zacs: Nod51: how long are you pausing between digits
[02:03:00] travolta: i cant delete them from the frontend
[02:03:00] Nod51: .7 sec
[02:03:00] Beirdo: yes you can, travolta
[02:03:00] Beirdo: pay attention
[02:03:00] travolta: let me try again
[02:03:00] Nod51: zacs: it was like .3, just as bad
[02:03:00] Beirdo: recreate the files with the correct names
[02:04:00] jasoncohen: travolta, you can do what Beirdo said or you can delete them directly from the db. If you have webmin installed, you can go into the recorded table of mythconverg and search for the shows you deleted and delete the entry
[02:04:00] Beirdo: then delete them
[02:04:00] Nod51: zacs: is there a module that could cause the parport to not respon all the time?
[02:04:00] Beirdo: yeah, or go in and mess in the db using phpmyadmin, or whatever
[02:04:00] Nod51: zacs: it like works the first few times then gets worse and worse, could just be my imagination...
[02:05:00] zacs: are you on dtv?
[02:05:00] zacs: sorry, dish
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[02:05:00] Nod51: zacs: yes, and I got the right controller according to LIRC
[02:05:00] Nod51: zacs: codes, I have a SAT_301
[02:06:00] zacs: i reas something about having to build a custom kernel for that
[02:06:00] zacs: with hertz set to 1024
[02:07:00] Nod51: hmmm... thats quite high!
[02:07:00] Nod51: arn't most like 54khz
[02:07:00] Nod51: oh wait is that 10khz?
[02:08:00] zacs: its jiffies / second
[02:08:00] zacs: default is 100
[02:08:00] zacs: on x86 linux anyways
[02:09:00] Nod51: zacs: yeah thats what I got, x86...
[02:09:00] zacs: i dunno if it will fix it, but there's even a comment about it in the the remote definition
[02:11:00] Nod51: hmm ok I will read it again...
[02:12:00] jemarcks_: What is the best GUI for burning a dvd with recorded programs?
[02:12:00] Nod51: zacs: you have a link?
[02:12:00] ** Beirdo yawns **
[02:15:00] zacs: http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/echostar/DBS
[02:16:00] jd86: my tv tuner works ( faces are blue but w/e) in tvtime but i have green screen in mythtv, i have a happauge and lspci calls it this: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11) i dont know how to
[02:16:00] jd86: pick which settings in mythtv-setup
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[02:18:00] Beirdo: OK this is ODD
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[02:18:00] Beirdo: GeckoFiend: have you ever seen recordings NOT show up in the frontend even though they are in the recorded table, and the files exist?
[02:19:00] Nod51: zacs: thanks, I will mess around with this
[02:20:00] GeckoFiend: Beirdo not that I can think of. Closest I
[02:21:00] Beirdo: hehe, I'm not the only person who hits enter when aiming for '
[02:21:00] GeckoFiend: closest i've come to that is accidently pointing to the wrong mysql server
[02:21:00] Beirdo: Hmm
[02:21:00] Beirdo: OK, I have a whole pile of these recordings, and I have no idea how this is possible
[02:21:00] Beirdo: like a 24 from February
[02:22:00] Beirdo: I'm pretty sure I deleted them
[02:22:00] Beirdo: but maybe delete was busted at some point...
[02:23:00] Beirdo: yup
[02:23:00] Beirdo: they are in oldrecorded as well
[02:23:00] Beirdo: that would be HOW they don't show up in the frontend
[02:24:00] Beirdo: I guess deletion was busted for a bit or something
[02:24:00] Beirdo: cleaning this up will be oh so fun. one of the joys of using CVS I guess :)
[02:26:00] jd86: how do i just show the guide?
[02:29:00] GeckoFiend: jd86 more keys.txt
[02:29:00] jd86: the front end is going so slooow for me :(
[02:29:00] jd86: 1.5 gb ram 2500+ figured it'd be a little snappier
[02:30:00] jd86: and it played tv before now it isn't
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[02:35:00] johnl: good lord im angry
[02:36:00] davred: do many people have problems with mythtv hanging when changing channels?
[02:36:00] johnl: that 2 second delay is there to build a buffer i think
[02:36:00] johnl: does anyone jhave a problem with their freakin tunder card reading the signal wrong?
[02:37:00] davred: i'm aware of that, but on some channels it just hangs
[02:37:00] johnl: cutting off half of the stream
[02:37:00] johnl: i dont know about that :/
[02:37:00] davred: i'm using a DVB-T card, otherwise it's working well
[02:38:00] johnl: for somereason my pvr150 started cutting off the right side of the picture
[02:38:00] davred: there was a bug posted a while ago, but it was left as new
[02:39:00] johnl: about it cutting off part of the stream?
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[02:39:00] Beirdo: johnl: set your captures to full-resolution, I think there's a bug with resizing with the PVR150 captures
[02:39:00] davred: johnl, sorry no, about hanging on channel changes
[02:41:00] johnl: in mytjh setup or in the mythfrontend
[02:41:00] Beirdo: in the frontend.
[02:41:00] iggy: in recording profiles
[02:41:00] johnl: default and live tv right?
[02:42:00] iggy: whatever is being used by the 150
[02:42:00] johnl: im not sure which profile is being used :/
[02:42:00] iggy: change them all then
[02:42:00] johnl: lol
[02:42:00] johnl: alright. 720x480?
[02:42:00] Beirdo: yes
[02:42:00] Beirdo: if NTSC
[02:43:00] Beirdo: x576 if PAL
[02:43:00] johnl: yeah, im in texas
[02:43:00] johnl: alright brb
[02:43:00] iggy: ouch, I feel for you
[02:44:00] Beirdo: hehe
[02:44:00] johnl: do i need to restart the backend or frontend or anything to make the changes take effect?
[02:44:00] Beirdo: no
[02:44:00] Beirdo: all future recordings will use the new settings
[02:45:00] johnl: ok, just go back to live tv, brb
[02:46:00] johnl: excuse my french, but i now feel like a f**kin moron :)
[02:46:00] johnl: i kept thinking i needed to have those at 480x480 to keep fps up
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[02:47:00] johnl: thank you very much for the help iggy and beirdo
[02:47:00] johnl: hey, do yall ever look in the byopvr linux forums?
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[02:49:00] iggy: johnl: nope, we deal with enough on irc
[02:49:00] Beirdo: why would I read forums?
[02:49:00] iggy: we don't need to go looking for pain
[02:51:00] GreyFoxx: man , the source to dhcpd is pretty ugly
[02:52:00] johnl: i was just wondering becuase thats where i started looking for help a few days ago, and ... there zero activity there
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[03:02:00] banyan: hey, anybody practiced in using avidemux2? I'm having a very annoying problem.
[03:02:00] johnl: is there a way to adjust the color/brightness/etc on the pvr150?
[03:03:00] johnl: i've tried changing the tv and the tvout, but its not working well, i think that the card is capturing it washed out
[03:03:00] banyan: related to "video starts/ends in lonely B frame. Please remove them." What does this mean? How do I get it to just shut up and save?
[03:05:00] banyan: is it just me or is nuvexport basically broken?
[03:05:00] darkfire: mchou, how did you go about configuring your niveus media remote?
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[03:07:00] rpete: speaking of remotes, logitech harmony look really nice
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[03:10:00] GreyFoxx: DarkBeer: You can configure it to work with lirc or use my modified ati_remote.c to treat it like a keyboard and avoid the headaches of lirc
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[03:10:00] GreyFoxx: oops, darn autocompletion
[03:11:00] darkfire: hrmm, avoiding headaches is always nice
[03:11:00] Beirdo: heh
[03:12:00] darkfire: does ati_remote.c involve compiling that into the kernel?
[03:13:00] ** GreyFoxx wonders why dhcpd sorts the in memory lease database each time a lease is added, making loading large lease files take horribly long **
[03:13:00] GreyFoxx: DarkBeer: yes
[03:13:00] GreyFoxx: ati_remote.c is akernel module
[03:13:00] jasoncohen: anyone know how to do a dual-head setup with the radeon or fglrx drivers?
[03:13:00] Beirdo: GreyFoxx: makes finding a lease easier later?
[03:13:00] GreyFoxx: you replace the ati_remote.c that comes with the kernel with the modified one. Then you compile it as a module
[03:13:00] GreyFoxx: Beirdo: No, I don't think so. it also has a hash lookup table
[03:14:00] Beirdo: oh
[03:14:00] GreyFoxx: and to top it off they are using an insertion sort
[03:14:00] darkfire: GreyFoxx, that seems like the best way to do it. teach me, oh wise one.
[03:14:00] GreyFoxx: and if you only have a couple hundred leases you might not notice, but if you have 60,000+ it is a killer :)
[03:15:00] GreyFoxx: I've been asked to shave a few seconds off the loadtime when starting it up, and 59% of the load timje is spent in that one routine
[03:15:00] GreyFoxx: yet I can see no reason in particular to sort them
[03:16:00] GreyFoxx: darkfire: www.phaze.org/mythtv/ati_remote.c (for 2.6.x kernels)
[03:16:00] mchou: sort so it assigns the next sequential address to the "next guy"
[03:16:00] GreyFoxx: replace the drivers/usb/input/ati_remote.c with that one
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[03:17:00] GreyFoxx: mchou: That's about the only reason I can imagine. I don't see a large benefit to that, at least not in any of the hundred or so implementations of it I've been involved with. I might get rid fo the sort and seee what I break
[03:18:00] GreyFoxx: If I really cared I could presort the dhcpd.leases before launching the app which takes a fraction of the time as the insertionsort in the dhcpd code itself
[03:18:00] mchou: yeah, no kidding.
[03:18:00] Beirdo: insertion sort!?
[03:18:00] Beirdo: fuck
[03:18:00] GreyFoxx: yes
[03:18:00] GreyFoxx: gros
[03:19:00] darkfire: GreyFoxx, how would i just compile that one module, as opposed to all of them? just do 'make' in the /drivers/usb/input/  ?
[03:19:00] mchou: mchou struggles to remember what an insertion sort is.....
[03:20:00] Beirdo: change it to a quick-sort and you would be better off
[03:20:00] darkfire: doesnt that iterate through the list from beginning to end and insert where it should go, shifting them all back?
[03:20:00] GreyFoxx: DarkBeer: You need to edit the kernel setup to compile that as a module, then make modules
[03:20:00] GreyFoxx: darkfire: correct
[03:20:00] darkfire: yeah, that's horrific with large lists.
[03:20:00] Beirdo: that's how I sort stuff by hand most of the time
[03:21:00] GreyFoxx: Beirdo: Even with that, using the dataset I've got of 60000 leases that's a huge amount of quick sorts as it would be called for each one
[03:21:00] mchou: 60k leases?? wtf you running, and isp?
[03:21:00] mchou: an*
[03:21:00] GreyFoxx: Especially since I see no performance or overall benefit to sorting at all, other than maybe so that you give out the lower leases first
[03:21:00] Beirdo: yeah, but quick sort is order logN
[03:22:00] GreyFoxx: mchou: I run several actually, This is a "smaller" dhcp server for one of the larger ones
[03:22:00] Beirdo: so it would be the best you can do
[03:22:00] darkfire: GreyFoxx, CONFIG_USB_ATI_REMOTE=m ?
[03:22:00] Beirdo: or just completely change it to not require sorting :)
[03:22:00] GreyFoxx: Beirdo I'm going to inplement a fast qsort and time it, then look at scrapping the sort altogether
[03:22:00] iggy: or use udhcpd
[03:23:00] GreyFoxx: iggy: I'd consider that if it handles everything I need it to :)
[03:23:00] iggy: it doesn't?
[03:23:00] mchou: GreyFoxx: what implementaion of dhcpd are you looking at?
[03:23:00] GreyFoxx: mchou: isc dhcpd
[03:23:00] GreyFoxx: with some custom mods, but mostly to load option82 stuff
[03:23:00] iggy: dnsmasq also supports quite a bit of the dhcp specs
[03:23:00] GreyFoxx: err log, not load
[03:24:00] GreyFoxx: iggy: I've never looked eat it so I would have to evaluate it :)
[03:24:00] Beirdo: or opendhcpd (I think it is) from openbsd
[03:24:00] Beirdo: it might be OK
[03:24:00] GreyFoxx: darkfire: yeah
[03:24:00] iggy: it's small, and it's written by people with half a clue (unlike anything by isc or gnu)
[03:24:00] GreyFoxx: might have to make sure input events are compiled in or loaded as a module as well
[03:24:00] Beirdo: iggy: the people at ISC have a clue :)
[03:25:00] Beirdo: a lot more of a clue than anyone in this channel
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[03:25:00] mchou: yeah, no kidding
[03:25:00] Beirdo: they are kinda stuck in old-style coding, but they are damn good at what they do
[03:25:00] iggy: noted
[03:25:00] GreyFoxx: Any mofo who writes bind or knows this ugly dhcpd code inside out gets props from me :)
[03:25:00] Beirdo: and innd
[03:25:00] Beirdo: don't forget that one too :)
[03:26:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[03:26:00] GreyFoxx: out [greg] ~$ ps -ef | grep innd
[03:26:00] GreyFoxx: news 190 1 0 2004 ? 00:00:00 /pub/inn/bin/innd -p4
[03:26:00] GreyFoxx: I can't, I use it all the time :)
[03:26:00] Beirdo: more isc goodness
[03:26:00] GreyFoxx: I've got local newsgroup archives of 50 or so mailing lists that get pumped into it all day long :)
[03:27:00] darkfire: GreyFoxx, cool, got the module loaded and the mouse function works, could you point me in the direction of something that will tell me how to configure this?
[03:27:00] GreyFoxx: darkfire: You have loaded the one I pointed you too ?
[03:27:00] iggy: google?
[03:27:00] darkfire: iggy, he modified this, so i didnt look there first, thought i'd ask
[03:27:00] darkfire: GreyFoxx, yup
[03:27:00] GreyFoxx: ok, unload it
[03:27:00] GreyFoxx: and load it with lolatype=1
[03:28:00] GreyFoxx: modprobe ati_remote lolatype=1
[03:28:00] GreyFoxx: The keys are premapped to Mythtv functions
[03:28:00] darkfire: done and done
[03:28:00] darkfire: sweet.
[03:28:00] darkfire: thanks a lot
[03:28:00] GreyFoxx: do admesg and show me the lines referring to the loading of the module from this last load
[03:28:00] GreyFoxx: I really should put up a webpage about this thing
[03:29:00] darkfire: drivers/usb/input/ati_remote.c: Weird data, len=1 ff 00 00 00 00 00 ...
[03:29:00] darkfire: ati_remote 3–2:1.0: Input registered: X10 Wireless Technology Inc USB Receiver on usb-0000:00:10.1–2(NIVEUS/ONEBOX(0bc7,0005))
[03:29:00] darkfire: usbcore: registered new driver ati_remote
[03:29:00] darkfire: drivers/usb/input/ati_remote.c: Registered USB driver ATI/X10 RF USB Remote Control v. 2.2.3c
[03:29:00] GreyFoxx: nice
[03:29:00] GreyFoxx: looks good
[03:29:00] ** darkfire bows. **
[03:29:00] darkfire: ty
[03:29:00] GreyFoxx: if you check the code, I have manually mapped the keys to what I wanted them to be, you can modify as needed
[03:30:00] GreyFoxx: I also keep an mplayer config file up that makes mplayer use the same keys and makes it more uniform between the two apps
[03:30:00] darkfire: 1
[03:30:00] GreyFoxx: www.phaze.org/mythtv/input.conf
[03:31:00] darkfire: excellent, i will use that too
[03:32:00] darkfire: yeah, that's really helpful, i wasn't able to find much on this remote via google
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[03:36:00] darkfire: now, time to take my new-found RF remote and RF gamepad into the room with the TV, and see if i've actually accomplished what i wanted to.
[03:36:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[03:36:00] Beirdo: fug
[03:41:00] darkfire: is there a way to transcode down from mpeg4 to mpeg2 in mythtv? i have a pvr-350 and decided that my mpeg2 decoder should have a go at mpeg4, because i'm dumb, and if i could fix my recordings without deleting and re-recording, that would be great
[03:42:00] banyan: hm, here's one — when I dvdauthor an mpg which definitely does have sound, there's nothing in the AUDIO_TS directory, and the resulting DVD has no sound.
[03:43:00] jemarcks_: you didnt extract the audio first
[03:44:00] banyan: I have a howto that says to mplex the video and the audio together into an mpg before running dvdauthor.
[03:45:00] banyan: is that not the right procedure?
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[03:45:00] jemarcks_: sounds right.. are you starting with a mpeg2 stream (.nuv)?
[03:46:00] banyan: yep.
[03:46:00] banyan: saved the m2v and the mp2, then mplex'ed them.
[03:46:00] jemarcks_: i have a script i use... mkdvd.sh
[03:46:00] banyan: oh! does it take the cuts into account?
[03:46:00] rpete: darkfire, you could do it with mencoder just to test
[03:47:00] jemarcks_: banyan... duno.. just got it to work with a recorded .nuv file
[03:47:00] banyan: can you maybe pastebin it for me?
[03:48:00] banyan: so, is it just me or is nuvexport kinda broken?
[03:49:00] rpete: darkfire, there's nuv2mpg in nuvtools and export to dvd in nuvexport
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[03:49:00] jemarcks_: banyan, http://pastebin.com/289872
[03:49:00] jemarcks_: banyan, i tried nuvexport and have a issue with a perl module... its broken
[03:49:00] alainm: hey, how do i find out which input my PVR-350 is on?
[03:50:00] jemarcks_: ivtvctl -a
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[03:51:00] jasoncohen: what controls the main menu fonts? the font setting in setup > appearances as well as the fonts in ui.xml don't seem to do anything
[03:51:00] dhofstra: jasoncohen; X controls that
[03:51:00] dhofstra: the idea is to run X at 100dpi now
[03:51:00] jemarcks_: as always
[03:51:00] dhofstra: (takes some playing around but I just did it last night
[03:51:00] jasoncohen: how do i do that?
[03:52:00] dhofstra: err. that is the SIZE of the fonts
[03:52:00] dhofstra: sorry, you prolly want to change the font types
[03:52:00] jemarcks_: banyan, did you get it?
[03:52:00] banyan: just opening it now.
[03:52:00] jasoncohen: dhofstra, font types?
[03:53:00] banyan: so this thing basically takes the nuv file as input and does it take the thing right to the DVD burner?
[03:53:00] dhofstra: yeah, changing X's dpi will make the fonts on myth's main menu larger or smaller... were you asking how to change the actual font (i.e. to tohoma or something)
[03:53:00] iggy: has anyone ever made a little tray/karamba/gdesklet notifier for the backend status?
[03:53:00] jemarcks_: banyan, it takes a .nuv file and processes it and burns a DVD that you can then play in any dvd player
[03:54:00] iggy: I was just thinking a little thing that shows most of the info from the mythweb backend status page would be cool
[03:54:00] dhofstra: theres also nuv2disc which can burn a show(s) to a dvd
[03:54:00] jemarcks_: i havent tried that.. .yet. i just started looking into burning dvds
[03:54:00] jasoncohen: dhofstra, no- i meant how to change it to 100 dpi
[03:54:00] darkfire: hrmm, when i am trying to run Xmame with mythgame on 0.18.1, the frontend lists all the games correctly, but when i select a game to play, myth acts as if Xmame ran and immediately exits, and the console says "/usr/games/bin/xmame -rompath /usr/share/games/xmame/roms -lr "smashtv" 2>/dev/null"
[03:55:00] jemarcks_: I would love to have a GUI to burn the shows onto a dvd but havent found one yet
[03:55:00] dhofstra: jasoncohen: in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (or your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4) you should have a size setting for your monitor's size in mm
[03:55:00] darkfire: it looks like myth is just listing something about the game instead of calling it with the options to play the game, any clue how i'd correct that?
[03:55:00] darkfire: if i run the command that myth uses minus the -lr, the game loads fine
[03:56:00] jasoncohen: dhofstra, why can i change all the other font sizes in myth?
[03:56:00] dhofstra: jemarcks_ nuv2disc is a <integrated> DVD burning solution you might look into... me, I have PVR cards and I just burn the shows right in Nero Vision Express on my m$ box
[03:56:00] dhofstra: jasoncohen. I dont make the rules, nor understand them. I'm just a follower of the rules =)
[03:57:00] jemarcks_: yeah... i have noticed that on some of the setup screens that the 'next' button in the lower right corner is below the screen... grrr
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[03:57:00] jasoncohen: dhofstra, what's the line called
[03:57:00] dhofstra: jasoncohen. it will also change the size of the text in your 'watch recordings' screen
[03:57:00] dhofstra: lemme look
[03:57:00] jasoncohen: i'll just take the size from my old one
[03:57:00] dhofstra: well, you gotta play with the size alot
[03:57:00] jasoncohen: old XF86Config-4. I backed it up before installing the ati drivers
[03:58:00] jasoncohen: dhofstra, i had my fonts setup perfectly before. The menu fonts were fine and i tinkered with ui.xml to make all the column sizes work with my chosen font size
[03:58:00] dhofstra: jasoncohen DisplaySize 292 241 in the monitor section
[03:58:00] iggy: xris: is there any docs on poking the backend manually?
[03:59:00] alainm: is there any special setting that i need to set to have the video come out of the SVideo out ?
[03:59:00] dhofstra: jasoncohen it is worth trying to achieve 100dpi now cuz the new mythui will use that resolution also
[03:59:00] darkfire: ah hah. mythgame is trying to use the option '-joytype 4' which xmame does not like. how can i stop that? there is no setting in the configure area to change it
[04:00:00] jasoncohen: dhofstra, i don't see a display size setting
[04:00:00] jasoncohen: dhofstra, what size monitor do you have?
[04:00:00] dhofstra: that is from my 17inch monitor, (it is not at 100dpi)
[04:00:00] alainm: all i see on my TV is black
[04:00:00] dhofstra: xdpyinfo | grep "resolution" is the command to check your current dpi
[04:00:00] jasoncohen: dhofstra, did you actually measure?
[04:01:00] darkfire: alainm, in the setup->tv->playback, check the box that says use PRV-350 output
[04:01:00] jasoncohen: resolution: 111x111 dots per inch
[04:01:00] alainm: it does
[04:01:00] jasoncohen: lol..yeah right
[04:01:00] jasoncohen: wait- does having more dots per inch make fonts smaller or larger?
[04:01:00] dhofstra: i measured, and then had to revise the numbers about 18 times to get 100dpi... this machine I just posted numbers for is not a frontend, so it is not a 100dpi
[04:01:00] darkfire: hrmm, have you tested the output using dd before trying it with myth?
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[04:01:00] alainm: darkfire: i clicked on Watch TV and now my Monitor is black
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[04:02:00] alainm: darkfire: how to i make it exit out of that?
[04:02:00] darkfire: alainm, that's normal, mythtv displays a black screen when playing tv through the PVR, is there anything on the TV?
[04:02:00] alainm: darkfire: no.. only black
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[04:03:00] darkfire: alainm, have you seen the http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-index.php?page=TvOutHowto
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[04:04:00] m0n0lith: anyone using mythtv on ubuntu?
[04:04:00] alainm: darkfire: pulling it up now
[04:04:00] banyan: I've never seen fifos used. Interesting.
[04:06:00] banyan: So, when making a DVD, I assume it's not a bad thing when there's nothing under the AUDIO_TS directory?
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[04:07:00] alainm: darkfire: one more quick question, is it alright if i have and All-In-Wonder in there at the same time as my PVR-350?
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[04:09:00] darkfire: should be, but i dunno
[04:09:00] darkfire: dont have an all-in-wonder
[04:09:00] alainm: k
[04:10:00] alainm: but multiple video cards shouldbe alright.
[04:10:00] darkfire: yup
[04:10:00] alainm: perfect..
[04:10:00] alainm: thanks..
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[04:14:00] dEdd: hi all. Having trouble getting going: knoppmyth r5a15.1installed, pvr500mce, and no signal when I try to watch tv. I followed http://www.bitbenderforums.com/~ralpha6/knoppmyth.
[04:15:00] banyan: hm, is there gonna be any sound on a DVD if I don't have anything in the AUDIO_TS directory?
[04:15:00] dEdd: One error is "tuner 2–0061: tuner type not set", but google finds little on that.
[04:18:00] alainm: dEdd: that link doesn't work
[04:19:00] banyan: ok, I see the actual file itself is encoded with the audio.
[04:19:00] banyan: so that leaves me the question: why might my DVD player not output any sound if the audio is there.
[04:20:00] dEdd: alainm: Try http://www.bitbenderforums.com/~ralpha6/knopp . . . ppmythtv.htm
[04:22:00] alainm: perfect that works
[04:22:00] xris: anyone want to come help paint my deck? blech. so much work.
[04:22:00] alainm: dEdd: i am setting up a similar setup except i have a PVR-350
[04:22:00] Beirdo: heh
[04:22:00] Beirdo: xris: too far away
[04:22:00] xris: lol
[04:22:00] xris: well, I got the built-in benches painted today.
[04:23:00] Beirdo: painting decks isn't that bad
[04:23:00] xris: it wouldn't be so bad except that the wood is old and full of cracks
[04:23:00] Beirdo: rent a wagner power sprayer and a big sander
[04:23:00] Beirdo: and use stain, not paint
[04:23:00] Beirdo: sand it down until it's the way ya like it
[04:24:00] Beirdo: then spray it down with stain
[04:24:00] Beirdo: let dry, repeat the stain
[04:24:00] xris: spray is apparently bad for decks..
[04:24:00] Beirdo: until it won't take any more
[04:24:00] Beirdo: how so?
[04:24:00] xris: but yes, it's stain (solid, so it looks like paint)
[04:24:00] xris: dunno, everyone tells me to use a brusjh
[04:24:00] Beirdo: bah
[04:24:00] Beirdo: why the HELL would you want to use a brush to stain a deck?
[04:25:00] Beirdo: I think they were trying to prolong your pain
[04:25:00] xris: better coverage to get into the cracks
[04:25:00] xris: sander would just take off the little bit of good wood that's left.
[04:25:00] xris: heh
[04:25:00] Beirdo: you've never used a Wagner Power sprayer, have you?
[04:25:00] xris: not in about 10 years.
[04:25:00] Beirdo: heh
[04:25:00] Beirdo: it will fill any crack...
[04:26:00] Beirdo: or if you're stuck on using roller/brush, they have a power roller now too
[04:26:00] Beirdo: of course, depends on the size of deck too
[04:26:00] xris: roller for the fence, maybe.
[04:26:00] Beirdo: we did a HUGE one in one day per coat
[04:26:00] xris: deck is big — about 550 sq feet
[04:27:00] Beirdo: the power sprayer has one disadvantage
[04:27:00] xris: but would be a pain to have to spray around the tree growing out of the deck, or the house, which butts up against much of it.
[04:27:00] Beirdo: some spray will deflect onto the walls, etc
[04:27:00] Beirdo: yeah
[04:27:00] Beirdo: so use a roller maybe
[04:27:00] Beirdo: power or otherwise
[04:28:00] Beirdo: but if you REALLY wanna brush it... you'd better have lots of brew for your helpers ;)
[04:28:00] xris: roller apparently doesn't work well on old decks.
[04:28:00] xris: well, I'll probably end up being my only helper.
[04:28:00] Beirdo: it would have to be a pretty thick pile on the roller
[04:28:00] Beirdo: damn, if I were down there, I'd be happy to help
[04:29:00] xris: not doing so bad... maybe 100 sq feet per 2 hours.
[04:29:00] Beirdo: I used to do that shit for a summer job as part of the general maintenence part of my uncle's contracting business
[04:29:00] xris: granted, I only get 2 hours of usable light during the work week.
[04:29:00] Beirdo: the worst is painting a house
[04:29:00] Beirdo: all the fucking scraping
[04:29:00] Beirdo: blech
[04:30:00] xris: well, no need for that on my house..  :) vinyl.
[04:30:00] Beirdo: :)
[04:30:00] Beirdo: the deck will likely want about 3 or 4 coats of stain too
[04:30:00] Beirdo: it's amazing how much will soak in
[04:30:00] xris: yeah
[04:31:00] xris: well, one coat to start... that's always the worst.
[04:31:00] Beirdo: hehe :)
[04:31:00] Beirdo: yeah
[04:31:00] xris: then brush on whatever I have left over.
[04:31:00] xris: I'm putting on VERY thick coats.
[04:31:00] Beirdo: the worst was a brand new cedar shake cottage
[04:31:00] xris: (have to in order to get it to fall into the cracks)
[04:31:00] xris: why paint cedar?
[04:31:00] Beirdo: it took 4 full coats before it stopped soaking in
[04:31:00] Beirdo: to preserve it
[04:32:00] Beirdo: and because the fuckers had money to throw around
[04:32:00] xris: heh
[04:32:00] xris: cedar is nice because you don't really HAVE to do anything to it. although a nice clear stain would be nice.
[04:32:00] Beirdo: it sucked
[04:32:00] Beirdo: there was a 4-story tower we had to stain
[04:32:00] Beirdo: blech
[04:32:00] Beirdo: we used grey
[04:32:00] dEdd: dude this is not the wood channel ...
[04:33:00] xris: dEdd: I don't see anyone asking questions about mythtv.
[04:33:00] Beirdo: dEdd: bah. and your question is?
[04:33:00] Beirdo: if no questions, then chill out
[04:33:00] dEdd: scroll baclto 22:19
[04:33:00] Beirdo: no
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[04:34:00] Beirdo: why would I scroll back over an hour?
[04:34:00] xris: 22 hours ago? damn.
[04:34:00] dEdd: 15 minutes
[04:34:00] Beirdo: not here it isn't
[04:34:00] xris: dEdd: ask again
[04:34:00] Beirdo: no idea about PVR500mce issues
[04:35:00] dEdd: hi all. Having trouble getting going: knoppmyth r5a15.1installed, pvr500mce, and no signal when I try to watch tv. I followed http://www.bitbenderforums.com/~ralpha6/knoppmyth.
[04:35:00] dEdd: One error is "tuner 2–0061: tuner type not set", but google finds little on that.
[04:35:00] xris: dEdd: join the ivtv mailing list
[04:36:00] dEdd: I must be overlooking something simple. 'dmesg | grep ivtv' looks good otherwise. New ivtv snapshot.
[04:36:00] dEdd: Any clues?Other than ivtv?
[04:36:00] Beirdo: joining the ivtv mailing list is likely still your best bet
[04:36:00] dEdd: ack
[04:36:00] Beirdo: as that's what's giving you troubles
[04:37:00] xris: dEdd: drivers are still unstable. we're not exactly ivtv experts here. if you can get a signal fine by pointing mplayer at /dev/video0, that's another issue.
[04:37:00] Beirdo: xris: I dunno why they wanted to stain cedar. struck me as a huge waste of money. A fool and his money are soon parted.
[04:38:00] dEdd: good point.mplayerr complains about no Xvideo ...
[04:38:00] xris: heh
[04:38:00] xris: dEdd: get the devices working first, then try mythtv.
[04:39:00] ** xris needs to eat **
[04:39:00] Beirdo: wuss :)
[04:39:00] dEdd: mplayer -vo x11 /dev/vdeo0 shows static/snow. How do I change "channels" in mplayer?
[04:40:00] Beirdo: tune.pl or something like that
[04:40:00] Beirdo: from a commandline
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[04:40:00] xris: there's a script called ptune_ui.pl or something like that. it's covered in jarod's guide, I think.
[04:40:00] Beirdo: ah, that sounds like it
[04:41:00] dEdd: thanks, had seen a ref to that too.
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[04:43:00] darkfire: when mythtv is recording via my PVR-350, the backend system hangs for about a quarter of a second every few seconds. what might be causing this?
[04:43:00] Beirdo: DMA issues maybe?
[04:44:00] darkfire: how would i investigate that?
[04:44:00] Beirdo: not sure
[04:44:00] Beirdo: does dmesg show any crap?
[04:45:00] dEdd: how do I tie ptune /ptune-ui to ivtv?
[04:45:00] dEdd: I.e. what do I do with ptune*
[04:45:00] darkfire: Beirdo, yes, actually. a lot
[04:45:00] darkfire: ivtv-osd: Error: prep osd dma to device rc=-5, Your time source seems to be instable or some driver is hogging interupts
[04:46:00] darkfire: two seperate lines, not one
[04:46:00] Beirdo: there's a good start
[04:46:00] darkfire: ivtv: Allocate DMA stream 0 using 128 16384 byte buffers 2097152 kbytes total
[04:46:00] Beirdo: you'll likely need to go to the ivtv mailing list for help.
[04:46:00] Beirdo: what chipset is your motherboard?
[04:47:00] darkfire: amd 64bit, it uses VIA chipsets, but it's not the ones plauged by the via bug, if i understand things correctly
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[04:48:00] Beirdo: hmm
[04:48:00] Beirdo: what (if anything) shares an IRQ with the 350?
[04:49:00] Beirdo: and are you sure DMA is on on the drive? (hdparm confirms it?)
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[04:50:00] darkfire: gah. using_dma = 0 (off)
[04:51:00] Beirdo: there ya go
[04:51:00] Beirdo: that's almost assured to be the cause of the issue
[04:51:00] darkfire: what's the options i pass hdparm to enable it again?
[04:52:00] Beirdo: man hdparm
[04:52:00] GreyFoxx: -d 1
[04:52:00] darkfire: nm, found it
[04:53:00] darkfire: hrmm. HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
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[04:53:00] Beirdo: make sure you have the chipset driver being used
[04:53:00] Beirdo: for IDE
[04:53:00] GreyFoxx: sounds like your kernel is using a generic IDE driver rather than one for your chipset
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[04:54:00] Beirdo: yup, that's what I'm thinking
[04:55:00] darkfire: do i have to set CONFIG_IDE_GENERIC=y to n, or just make sure the appropriate one is set to y ?
[04:55:00] GreyFoxx: you can leave generic enabled, but you will want to enable the right one for your chipset aswell
[04:56:00] GreyFoxx: otherwise no dma soup for you
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[05:00:00] darkfire: i'm not quite sure which driver is the right one. i have the VIA K8T800 Pro chipset
[05:04:00] darkfire: honestly i dont even rightly know which chipset i'm trying to find
[05:04:00] ChrisMacTire: hey guys, where are the setting to get the On Screen Display to stop overscanning?
[05:04:00] darkfire: only chipset info i can get for my board (AV8 Deluxe) is that it uses the VIA K8T800Pro + VT8237
[05:05:00] Beirdo: darkfire: lspci
[05:05:00] Beirdo: find the IDE chip
[05:05:00] Beirdo: that's the one you need to find the drivers for
[05:06:00] darkfire: alright, so it's the VT82C586A, and i modprobed the via82cxxx driver, but still couldnt set the DMA
[05:06:00] darkfire: do i have to reboot or unmount or anything?
[05:06:00] Beirdo: you need to have that inserted WAY early on
[05:06:00] Beirdo: or compiled in
[05:06:00] sunilonln: Realtime priority would require SUID as root. >> what exactly does this mean?
[05:07:00] Beirdo: sunilonln: exactly what it says
[05:07:00] darkfire: Beirdo, will adding that module to modules.conf do the trick, or is that not early enough?
[05:07:00] Beirdo: darkfire: it's best to have it built in. what distro?
[05:07:00] darkfire: gentoo
[05:07:00] darkfire: x64
[05:07:00] ChrisMacTire: sunilonln: SUID is a bit that lets the executable (mythfroontend) run with root priveledges. I can't quantify how much better the performance owuld get.
[05:07:00] Beirdo: hmm
[05:08:00] darkfire: the drive isn't the drive being booted off of, if that makes a difference
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[05:08:00] Beirdo: you'll have to as a gentoo expert on how to preload the module if you are going modular
[05:08:00] ChrisMacTire: sunilonln: If your performance is good enough you can safely ingnore it.
[05:08:00] darkfire: well, i'm really just being lazy. i'll compile it in
[05:09:00] Beirdo: ubuntu has an /etc/modules to list modules you want loaded at initrd time (I think it is)
[05:09:00] Beirdo: gentoo may have something similar
[05:09:00] Beirdo: but building it in is the best way
[05:09:00] ChrisMacTire: darkfire: Isn't it just /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.x and /etc/modules.d/ ?
[05:10:00] darkfire: ChrisMacTire, yes, but i don't know if this module needs to be loaded earlier than that
[05:10:00] Beirdo: that may not early enough
[05:10:00] Beirdo: built-in is best
[05:10:00] ChrisMacTire: darkfire: That's what the /edt/mudles.d/ does. It lets you specify module load order.
[05:11:00] Beirdo: ChrisMacTire: no, that may not be early enough
[05:11:00] ChrisMacTire: Beirdo: Gotcha.
[05:11:00] darkfire: but that's still during the init scripts, not before the OS is loaded
[05:11:00] Beirdo: you gotta make sure (if modular) that it loads before ide_generic
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[05:12:00] ChrisMacTire: Is anyone using the win pvr 350 as their sole output card?
[05:12:00] Beirdo: if ide_generic claims the device, you're sunk
[05:13:00] darkfire: ChrisMacTire, i use it on a TV in another room, but i still have a monitor hooked up.
[05:13:00] ChrisMacTire: darkfire: Does your onscreen display, turing tv playback, get cut off on the edges?
[05:13:00] darkfire: yes
[05:14:00] darkfire: haven't started trying to track that down and fix it yet
[05:14:00] ChrisMacTire: darkfire: Any idea how to fix that? The tv signal itself is fine. No cut off edges but the onscreen display is too big.
[05:14:00] ChrisMacTire: nevermind then darkfire
[05:14:00] darkfire: well, i was thinking that the overscan settings in the setup might help a bit, but i havent played with them
[05:15:00] ChrisMacTire: There are two distince overscan setup locations. One I've used to fix the non-tvplayback output. The second I'm not sure what it does.
[05:16:00] darkfire: yeah, i tweaked the GUI settings to fix the UI, and havent touched those other ones
[05:16:00] darkfire: i'm thinking those are the ones that will fix the osd
[05:16:00] darkfire: brb, rebootin with my new shiny kernel
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[05:21:00] ChrisMacTire: wb
[05:21:00] darkfire: yup, always good to have the new kernel load.
[05:22:00] darkfire: Beirdo, using_dma = 1 (on). thanks
[05:23:00] Beirdo: yay
[05:23:00] Beirdo: that should work way better now
[05:24:00] darkfire: is there a way to make the mythfrontend minimize itself when playing TV/recordings instead of just turning into a black box? when an application changes focus on my monitor, the mythfrontend goes on top of the PVR output, and completely blocks the screen. i've googled, but cant seem to find any info
[05:24:00] Beirdo: dunno
[05:25:00] ChrisMacTire: darkfire: Sorry, I use my tv instead of a monitor.
[05:25:00] Beirdo: I only use the TV
[05:25:00] GreyFoxx: Me too
[05:26:00] GreyFoxx: back when I had a monitor on it that was all it ever did :)
[05:26:00] darkfire: heh, figures. i wanted to get a new box for just myth, but apparently people want you to pay for that sort of thing :-p
[05:26:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[05:26:00] ChrisMacTire: Finallly got the UI to stop overscanning. Now I need the OSD to stop doing it.
[05:27:00] ChrisMacTire: Oh, hey, how do you get the log messages for mythfrontend?
[05:27:00] darkfire: ChrisMacTire, what numbers did you end up using to get the UI to fit?
[05:27:00] ChrisMacTire: hold on
[05:28:00] GreyFoxx: ChrisMacTire: You need to tell mythfrontend to log to a file, or redirect the stdout output to a file
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[05:30:00] darkfire: GreyFoxx, the remote works wonderfully with mythtv, but doesnt send keystrokes to xmame. any thoughts?
[05:30:00] GreyFoxx: Man I'm really gonna miss this particular Dr when they change the actor
[05:30:00] ChrisMacTire: Utilities/Setup -> Setup -> Appearance -> 2 second screen. 648-450-36–10. I had to fiddle with X before it quite worked. Everytime I exited tv playback it would reaply the settings and move the screen 30 pixels down because of the titlebar on the frontend window. Fixed that by getting rid of the title bad.
[05:31:00] GreyFoxx: darkfire: It sends them to the OS, it has no knowledge of any apps that might be running
[05:31:00] GreyFoxx: so if xmame is not reacting them either the keys being sent are not appropriate for xmame, or xmame is just ignoring the keyboard events
[05:32:00] darkfire: hrmm, pressing a button on the keyboard itself works, but not the remote, which is the puzzling thing
[05:32:00] darkfire: ChrisMacTire, how'd you set it to not have a title bar?
[05:32:00] GreyFoxx: What button in particular ?
[05:32:00] darkfire: 5
[05:32:00] GreyFoxx: Weird
[05:33:00] GreyFoxx: I've never tried using it under xmame to have noticed. Can;t imagine what it would be unless xmame has some weird keyboard handling routines that standard apps don't
[05:33:00] ChrisMacTire: darkfire: depends on your window manager. I use twm since it's nice and lite. Add "NoTitle" to your .twmrc file.
[05:33:00] darkfire: well, xmame was running fullscreen on my second display (PVR framebuffer) if that makes any difference
[05:34:00] GreyFoxx: darkfire: shouldn't. It literall just sends a simulated keyboard event. doesn't matter what app is running, doesn't require X
[05:36:00] darkfire: yeah, i figured it was something like that, but xmame doesnt recognize any of the keys. odd.
[05:36:00] GreyFoxx: yeah
[05:37:00] GreyFoxx: if I even install xmame on a system with the remote I'll take a look
[05:37:00] GreyFoxx: s/even/ever/g
[05:37:00] darkfire: ChrisMacTire, i'm going to play around with negative overscan percentages in Setup->TV->playback. i'll let you know if that helps
[05:38:00] darkfire: i'll let you know if i figure out what it is, grey
[05:38:00] GreyFoxx: cool
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[06:01:00] darkfire: ChrisMacTire, the overscan setting did absolutely nothin for me
[06:06:00] ChrisMacTire: darkfire: Odd. This is where I got it: http://www-isl.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de/~hi93/my . . . _walkthrough
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[06:13:00] bigslam: u think a 400–50W psu is fine for an amd64?
[06:13:00] bigslam: and more
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[06:25:00] CyberKnet: anyone know what the current status of firewire recording is?
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[06:29:00] iggy: works?
[06:32:00] darkfire: bigslam, definitely
[06:32:00] darkfire: bigslam, iirc i have a 400w in my amd64
[06:32:00] kormoc: depends on what else is in it
[06:32:00] kormoc: and the quality of the psu
[06:32:00] kormoc: and the quality of the power line to the psu
[06:33:00] darkfire: well, i have a nvidia 6800 ultra
[06:33:00] darkfire: and it seems to handle the draw pretty well
[06:37:00] darkfire: ChrisMacTire, bah, i read the settings thing wrong, i guess. negative values on the overscan don't do anything, but 8x8 works.
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[06:44:00] gnarface: whew
[06:44:00] gnarface: ok
[06:44:00] gnarface: anyone use irrecord at all?
[06:44:00] gnarface: i think i might have my usb-uirt working
[06:45:00] gnarface: it could in fact be working fine if only i had a remote profile for the DirecTivo i'd know for sure
[06:45:00] gnarface: as it is raw mode seems.... inaccurate
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[06:57:00] bigslam: darkfire> i will have a few pci cards
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[06:58:00] ChrisMacTire: later people
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[07:37:00] diomedes: is the pvr function supported in Australia?
[07:37:00] Agrajag-: yep
[07:37:00] diomedes: well? or just barely?
[07:37:00] Agrajag-: what do you mean?
[07:37:00] Agrajag-: works perfectly for me
[07:38:00] diomedes: cool will grab it and have a play then
[07:38:00] bigslam: he means support for it
[07:38:00] Agrajag-: only problem i have is that our stupid tv networks don't run shows on time
[07:38:00] bigslam: like are there alot of people in austraila using pvrs
[07:38:00] Agrajag-: so i record everything 2 minutes early and 20 minutes late
[07:38:00] diomedes: yeah but thats normally
[07:38:00] bigslam: damn
[07:38:00] bigslam: that sucks
[07:39:00] bigslam: do they mean todo that?
[07:39:00] diomedes: does myth do ad filtering?
[07:39:00] Agrajag-: yep
[07:39:00] Agrajag-: bigslam: yeah, it's a ratings sham
[07:40:00] bigslam: ?
[07:41:00] Agrajag-: well if one channel runs their show overtime – say it's supposed to finish a 5:30
[07:41:00] Agrajag-: they run it overtime, to 5:40 or whatever
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[07:41:00] Agrajag-: you can't change channels and watch something that starts at 5:30 on another channel
[07:41:00] bigslam: hmm
[07:41:00] bigslam: i see
[07:42:00] bigslam: lol i would of never thought of that
[07:42:00] bigslam: 2 tuner cards:)
[07:42:00] Agrajag-: every station does it now
[07:42:00] Agrajag-: yeah i have 2
[07:42:00] bigslam: hmm i never seen that happens here
[07:42:00] Agrajag-: i heard that in the US the gilmore girls ran 30 seconds overtime and there was a big uproar and the station apologised and ran that episode again
[07:42:00] Agrajag-: i wish that happened here!
[07:43:00] Agrajag-: g-code never took off here because of that too
[07:43:00] bigslam: hmm one time here in the usa they were running CSI. and the station stoped it and talked about someone getting killed and the person that said to stop the show and change it got fired
[07:43:00] bigslam: lol
[07:43:00] diomedes: is it at all possible (no likely) to get myth to work with pay tv? like how would you get it to change channel
[07:44:00] bigslam: diomedes> why wouldnt it workw ith pay tv?
[07:44:00] Agrajag-: diomedes: im pretty sure you can
[07:44:00] diomedes: how do u get it to change the channel?
[07:44:00] bigslam: its like a tv u have the cox and u plug it into the tuner and or tv
[07:44:00] adante: hey diomedes! small world
[07:44:00] Agrajag-: nah goes through a box first
[07:45:00] bigslam: oh!
[07:45:00] bigslam: digital cable
[07:45:00] Agrajag-: nup not digital cable
[07:45:00] bigslam: oh:/
[07:45:00] bigslam: lol
[07:45:00] diomedes: hey mate :-)
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[07:45:00] Agrajag-: diomedes: i think you can bypass the box though.. and just plug it straight into a tuner
[07:46:00] Agrajag-: not sure at all theough
[07:46:00] adante: diomedes: no longer hang in qpipe?
[07:46:00] Agrajag-: check the mailing list
[07:46:00] bigslam: u use a Remote dimedes
[07:46:00] bigslam: maybe i dont understand what hes talking about
[07:46:00] bigslam: like a cable box right?
[07:46:00] diomedes: adante yeah i do i just haven't had alot of time for idle chit chat lately, been working of project in my spare time
[07:47:00] bigslam: http://www.pricenetwork.ca/gallery/albums/use . . . le%20box.jpg
[07:47:00] bigslam: like that like a cable box right?
[07:47:00] Agrajag-: the cable box just decryps
[07:48:00] Agrajag-: decrypts rather
[07:48:00] bigslam: yea but what does he mean change channel?
[07:48:00] Agrajag-: you change channels with a remote that controls the box
[07:48:00] bigslam: some cable boxes have serial ports on the back and u plug that into say your computer or replaytv box, tivo
[07:48:00] bigslam: and it will change the channel on the box
[07:49:00] Agrajag-: yeah.. not sure if aussie ones have that
[07:49:00] Agrajag-: paytv is evil anyway :P
[07:49:00] bigslam: what do u do FTA?
[07:49:00] Agrajag-: yeah, dvb fta
[07:50:00] bigslam: i just bought a DVB card
[07:50:00] bigslam: Nexus-S
[07:50:00] bigslam: WinTV
[07:50:00] bigslam: it was $110
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[07:51:00] Agrajag-: i got two for AU$110 each
[07:51:00] Agrajag-: fair bit cheaper if you're talking US$
[07:52:00] bigslam: damn and i thought i got a good deal
[07:52:00] Agrajag-: maybe it's a better card :)
[07:52:00] Agrajag-: all mine has is the one input.. no outputs or anything
[07:52:00] bigslam: http://www.hauppauge.com/Pages/products/data_nexus.html
[07:53:00] Agrajag-: ah taht's dvb-s
[07:53:00] Agrajag-: mines dvb-t
[07:53:00] bigslam: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815116618
[07:53:00] bigslam: the WinTV Nexus-S:)
[07:54:00] bigslam: i still need a cam for paytv
[07:54:00] bigslam: CI
[07:54:00] bigslam: unit or whatever u call it
[07:55:00] bigslam: Agrajag the dvb-t or dvb-s cant control motors can it?
[07:56:00] Agrajag-: control motors? what?
[07:56:00] bigslam: DiSEqC
[07:57:00] fryfrog: DiSEqC?
[07:57:00] fryfrog: is that like a new way of spelling Disco?
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[07:57:00] Agrajag-: i dunno what that is. but i've seen options for it in mythtv-setup
[07:58:00] bigslam: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem . . . 895&rd=1
[07:58:00] bigslam: that
[07:58:00] Agrajag-: i dunno.. check in mythtv-setup, dvb card config. i've seen diseqc stuff there
[07:58:00] fryfrog: why would you want a motorized sat dish?
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[07:59:00] bigslam: no if the hardware card doesnt support diseqc then u cant doesnt matter about the settings in mythtv
[07:59:00] Agrajag-: so you can point it at a satellite? :P
[07:59:00] bigslam: after chaning of a FTA satellite
[07:59:00] bigslam: yea its faster then going out there and moving it
[07:59:00] fryfrog: i thought you pointed a dish at 1 bird?
[07:59:00] fryfrog: or is it for small adjustments?
[07:59:00] bigslam: there are alot of FTV salellites
[07:59:00] fryfrog: ahhhh
[07:59:00] bigslam: FTA*
[08:01:00] fryfrog: so you need a reciever that supports that digic thingie
[08:01:00] fryfrog: sounds neat
[08:01:00] bigslam: i think
[08:01:00] bigslam: i dont know
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[08:01:00] fryfrog: or a sat card i guess
[08:01:00] bigslam: DVB card:)
[08:01:00] fryfrog: i see
[08:01:00] fryfrog: what kind of chans?
[08:01:00] bigslam: dont know i just got into this stuff
[08:03:00] fryfrog: i'm thinking of jumping to directv after they make their switch to mpeg4 and toss up their new birds
[08:03:00] bigslam: u cant use any DVB cards with dtv
[08:04:00] fryfrog: i know, i'd just get their HD PVR
[08:04:00] smoke_: hey guys any of u using ivtv for a pvr250?
[08:04:00] fryfrog: smoke_: anyone with a PVRX50 uses it :)
[08:04:00] smoke_: well yeah ..
[08:05:00] bigslam: i need a PVR card
[08:05:00] bigslam: right now i have a WinTV-PCI card:/
[08:05:00] bigslam: and a nexus coming
[08:05:00] fryfrog: smoke_: rattle off your question :)
[08:05:00] smoke_: ok check this out, i installed ivtv, .. i know this isnt an ivtv support channel, but i isntalled it, and i keep getting these eeprom errors, i looked up the forums and googled it and it said about aliasing some modules, and i did it and im still getting the error.. so basically everytime i try to caqpture with my /dev/video0 it says read: input/ouput error .. anyone ever experience this same problem?
[08:05:00] smoke_: :)
[08:05:00] bigslam: anyone have pictures of there system?
[08:06:00] fryfrog: what version smoke_ ?
[08:06:00] smoke_: cuz i cat /dev/vide0
[08:06:00] smoke_: ummm
[08:06:00] smoke_: let me check
[08:06:00] smoke_: stable
[08:06:00] smoke_: 0.2.0
[08:06:00] smoke_: or whatever
[08:06:00] fryfrog: ahah, pictures of their system?
[08:06:00] bigslam: yea
[08:06:00] bigslam: there setup
[08:06:00] fryfrog: a pic of mine would be ugly :)
[08:06:00] fryfrog: its just a pc case with 3 cards in it
[08:07:00] fryfrog: smoke_: how does the output from dmesg look after a modprobe ivtv?
[08:07:00] bigslam: still i would like to see
[08:07:00] fryfrog: you can put it in pastebin.com
[08:07:00] smoke_: err
[08:07:00] smoke_: the machine isnt on the internet right now
[08:07:00] smoke_: it gets this error... let me tell u its just 1 line u need to know :))
[08:07:00] fryfrog: no, i'd like to see how its detecting your card
[08:07:00] fryfrog: and what modules, tuner, etc it loads
[08:07:00] fryfrog: thats like 10–30 lines
[08:08:00] fryfrog: its okay if its not on the intarweb, just echo the text to a file, copy it to a floppy (or over your network) and put it on pastebin
[08:08:00] smoke_: pok
[08:08:00] smoke_: at load it screw sup on the haugpagge eeprom
[08:08:00] smoke_: it doesnt load it..
[08:08:00] fryfrog: that'd do it :)
[08:08:00] smoke_: and then when its trying to capture, its getting an error from i2c adr
[08:08:00] smoke_: addr
[08:08:00] fryfrog: what kernel version?
[08:08:00] smoke_: 2.6.11
[08:08:00] smoke_: im on amd64 tho :/ ... i think that might be my problem..
[08:08:00] fryfrog: did you remove the ummm...
[08:09:00] smoke_: im usign the newest fw from the haugpauge site...
[08:09:00] fryfrog: msp3400 and other kernel modules that ivtv builds new versions of?
[08:09:00] fryfrog: you can use "modinfo tveeprom" or "modinfo ivtv" to get some information on them
[08:09:00] fryfrog: and what distro of linux?
[08:09:00] smoke_: gentoo
[08:09:00] fryfrog: using the ivtv ebuild?
[08:09:00] fryfrog: OH OH
[08:10:00] fryfrog: did you say PVR 150??
[08:10:00] fryfrog: no, nm you said pvr 250 :/
[08:11:00] smoke_: err
[08:11:00] smoke_: ok
[08:11:00] smoke_: im using the src
[08:11:00] smoke_: from the website, the stable src
[08:11:00] fryfrog: why not the ebuild?
[08:11:00] fryfrog: "emerge ivtv -pv"
[08:11:00] smoke_: ive done that before, so i tried using the sr,c but im still gettin ghte same errors
[08:11:00] fryfrog: i would go with the ebuild, since it *is* the source
[08:12:00] fryfrog: but done in the gentoo way
[08:12:00] smoke_: no i know
[08:12:00] fryfrog: if you want to get the latest latest version, youc an just make a "/usr/local/portage/" dir, turn on an overlay and modify the ebuild a little to get the very latest
[08:12:00] smoke_: so u think its just my ivtv ver thats messed?
[08:12:00] fryfrog: anyway, seeing the output from dmesg after a modprobe is prolly the best
[08:13:00] fryfrog: smoke_: it'd be my first guess, but computers are bitches so its still just a guess :)
[08:13:00] darkfire: smoke_, what do your modules look like?
[08:13:00] darkfire: and what ver of ivtv?
[08:13:00] darkfire: 2.x?
[08:14:00] fryfrog: 0.2.0-rc3j
[08:14:00] fryfrog: ?
[08:14:00] fryfrog: thats the "latest stable" according to his site http://www.ivtv.tv/
[08:14:00] darkfire: use the 0.3.x branch. i tried the for a while to get .2.x to work on amd64 to no avail
[08:14:00] smoke_: should i try and mess with the cvs srcs?
[08:15:00] fryfrog: darkfire: for a pvr250 card?
[08:15:00] fryfrog: smoke_: i wouldn't
[08:15:00] darkfire: pvr350
[08:15:00] smoke_: yeah
[08:15:00] smoke_: 2.0rc3j
[08:15:00] fryfrog: darkfire: weird, though i spose amd64 could do it
[08:15:00] smoke_: eeer
[08:15:00] smoke_: 0.2.0 rc3j
[08:15:00] smoke_: pvr250
[08:15:00] fryfrog: darkfire: but if it compiles, how could it be an amd64 issue?
[08:15:00] smoke_: ah
[08:15:00] darkfire: course, my problems were with the tv-out, so not exactly the same
[08:15:00] smoke_: ill use cvs
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[08:16:00] darkfire: fryfrog, i'd say it was a 0.2.0 issue, doing nothing but changing to 0.3.0 fixed the problem
[08:16:00] fryfrog: ah
[08:16:00] fryfrog: smoke_: try the 0.3 latest, not cvs
[08:16:00] fryfrog: you can probably even make an ebuild real easy
[08:16:00] fryfrog: just copy the ivtv-0.2 ebuild to 0.3.blah
[08:16:00] fryfrog: then edit it to point to the right dir
[08:17:00] darkfire: i just used source for mine, easier
[08:17:00] fryfrog: darkfire: you use gentoo?
[08:17:00] gnarface: oh yes
[08:17:00] gnarface: FUCK YES
[08:18:00] gnarface: YES YES YES
[08:18:00] gnarface: i win.
[08:18:00] darkfire: yep, gentoo 2005.0 x64_86
[08:18:00] k-man: is there any stats on the number of people on #myth-users over time?
[08:18:00] darkfire: gnarface, lottery finally pay off?
[08:18:00] gnarface: no, even better.
[08:18:00] gnarface: i got my usb-uirt to work
[08:18:00] gnarface: no thanks to the lirc maintainer
[08:18:00] fryfrog: darkfire: takes about 3 min to make the ebuild work, then its a single character change to update
[08:18:00] darkfire: kman, maybe at http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/
[08:19:00] fryfrog: darkfire: little more work now, tons less to get a later version :)
[08:19:00] gnarface: but this saved me: http://www.gemair.com/~neveld/ (and some brutal manual patching)
[08:19:00] darkfire: fryfrog, takes 0 minutes to make source work, and i have no interest in 'upgrading' a working version
[08:19:00] fryfrog: haha, true :)
[08:19:00] gnarface: 0 to usb-uirt in 1 wee, 4 days, 6 hours
[08:19:00] gnarface: s/wee/week
[08:19:00] fryfrog: whats usb uirt?
[08:19:00] gnarface: www.usbuirt.com
[08:20:00] gnarface: think ir blaster but in usb form for no apparent reason
[08:20:00] fryfrog: ah
[08:21:00] fryfrog: wonder if there is any reason to use 0.3 on a pvr 250 :)
[08:21:00] gnarface: (except perhaps to complicate things by taking what is already serial data, and then packaging it up as packets, and then passing it through a serially transmitted abstraction layer for said packets, then having to do that all in reverse to make the damn thing work as a serial device again in linux)
[08:21:00] gnarface: fryfrog: if there is let me know, since i'm using 0.3.3
[08:21:00] darkfire: fryfrog, no clue, my only problem with 0.2 was the tv out
[08:21:00] fryfrog: gnarface: 0.3 with a pvr250?
[08:22:00] gnarface: 0.3.3k to be exact, and gentoo 2005.0
[08:22:00] fryfrog: er, 0.3.3? looks like 0.3.5 is "stable" version of teh unstable branch
[08:22:00] fryfrog: gnarface: ebuild or just sefl install?
[08:22:00] gnarface: of ivtv? no, self install
[08:22:00] darkfire: course if you modify your own ebuilds, isnt that still a self install?
[08:22:00] gnarface: sorta
[08:22:00] fryfrog: not really
[08:23:00] fryfrog: maybe "self install" is the wrong term :)
[08:23:00] fryfrog: cause technically, if you install it... you self installed it :)
[08:23:00] darkfire: "it was a self install! i had to type emerge all by my self"
[08:23:00] fryfrog: hehe
[08:24:00] darkfire: anyway. sleepy time
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[08:24:00] fryfrog: i just prefer to use a systems package management :)
[08:24:00] fryfrog: well, lets see what happens when i emerge 0.3.5h :)
[08:24:00] gnarface: hmm. i've done it all by hand before on a redhat box
[08:24:00] dark|sleep: eh, to a certain extent system package management breeds bad sys-admins
[08:24:00] gnarface: its not that hard
[08:25:00] fryfrog: dark|sleep: ahhaha, i guess it depends on the sys admin :)
[08:25:00] gnarface: the hard part is when you realize the kt133 chipset doesn't sustain dma transfers without locking up
[08:25:00] dark|sleep: it's too easy to emerge yourself into a world of hurt if you're not careful.
[08:25:00] fryfrog: dark|sleep: if you are writing your own rpm/ebuild, chances are you don't suck THAT much :)
[08:25:00] dark|sleep: yup
[08:25:00] gnarface: that i learned too. emerge is very dangerous.
[08:25:00] fryfrog: "emerge -uD world hurt" :)
[08:25:00] gnarface: lol
[08:25:00] dark|sleep: lol
[08:26:00] fryfrog: either of you run ~x86 (or ~anything i guess) and use apache?
[08:26:00] gnarface: if you follow all the directions and emerge -pv everything first its hard to screw up though.
[08:26:00] dark|sleep: i never fail to chuckle when i see [ebuild FU ]
[08:26:00] gnarface: hmm. i'm only using ~x86 for the stuff that needed it (myth 0.18 and reqs)
[08:26:00] fryfrog: haha
[08:27:00] fryfrog: yeah, thats how i have done my myth box
[08:27:00] gnarface: here's the real thing: make sure you have enough disk space. like WAY ENOUGH
[08:27:00] fryfrog: runs x86 with keywords for ~x86 stuff
[08:27:00] dark|sleep: ya, i use amd64 with ~amd64
[08:27:00] gnarface: cause if you run outta space halfway though building mozilla you're FUCKED
[08:27:00] fryfrog: but my old server runs ~x86 and there were some HUGE apache layout changes one or two versions ago
[08:27:00] fryfrog: gnarface: ccache is your friend
[08:28:00] gnarface: hmm. indeed.
[08:28:00] fryfrog: well, 3.5h modprobed okay
[08:29:00] smoke_: po
[08:29:00] smoke_: ok
[08:29:00] smoke_: i updated
[08:29:00] smoke_: now iget i2c client addr: 0x44 not found!
[08:29:00] smoke_: its still not loading my eeprom :/
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[08:29:00] fryfrog: did you compile i2c support as a module?
[08:30:00] fryfrog: also, i have to select a tv card in the kernel that uses the "tuner" module to make sure all the needed stuff gets built
[08:30:00] fryfrog: it could just be that those modules weren't made for ya
[08:30:00] smoke_: ehh...
[08:31:00] smoke_: ivtv doenst supply those modules?
[08:31:00] fryfrog: what does "modinfo tuner" or "modinfo tveeprom" say?
[08:31:00] fryfrog: no sir :)
[08:31:00] fryfrog: it only supplies the ones it HAS to
[08:33:00] fryfrog: <M> Conexant 2388x (bt878 successor) support
[08:33:00] fryfrog: i pick that one, it should cause tveeprom and tuner to be built
[08:34:00] fryfrog: there are probably a few others that will too, but once i found that one i promptly stopped looking
[08:34:00] smoke_: i have
[08:34:00] smoke_: tuner and tveeprom modules already built ...
[08:34:00] fryfrog: ah, nm then
[08:34:00] fryfrog: so "modinfo tuner" and "modinfo tveeprom" work?
[08:35:00] smoke_: imma rebuild
[08:35:00] smoke_: yeah
[08:35:00] smoke_: they work
[08:35:00] fryfrog: k
[08:35:00] smoke_: but im gonna build the conexant 2388x stuff
[08:35:00] smoke_: no bt848?
[08:36:00] fryfrog: what ever you want :)
[08:36:00] fryfrog: you don't need either
[08:36:00] fryfrog: which is why i make it a module, so it won't load
[08:36:00] fryfrog: if you just make em modules, you can get away with just "make modules_install"
[08:36:00] fryfrog: no need to reboot or anything
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[08:39:00] smoke_: hrmm
[08:39:00] smoke_: its having problems loading it
[08:39:00] smoke_: still
[08:39:00] smoke_: but i can modinfo them :/
[08:39:00] fryfrog: seeing dmesg would help a lot :/
[08:40:00] smoke_: i can put it on the internet
[08:40:00] smoke_: give me one sec.
[08:41:00] smoke_: err
[08:41:00] smoke_: cant
[08:41:00] smoke_: the ethernet cable wotn reach :/.
[08:42:00] fryfrog: hehe
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[08:50:00] Batty_saix: Hey everyone.
[08:51:00] Batty_saix: Are any mods here?
[08:59:00] fryfrog: mods?
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[09:07:00] smoke_: is there an ivtv channel?
[09:07:00] smoke_: heh
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[09:09:00] Batty_saix: This channel is quiet.
[09:12:00] gnarface: shhh. we're watching tv.
[09:13:00] Batty_saix: Sets a 300 pound bag of popcorn in gnaface's vision. :)
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[09:28:00] gnarface: :-p
[09:28:00] gnarface: anyone seen this show full metal alchemist?
[09:28:00] gnarface: frickin scarring.
[09:34:00] gnarface: anyone seen a via-kt133 based board NOT suck?
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[11:50:00] hor: Hi
[11:51:00] hor: I have a problem with configuring mythtv. I get this message often "ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: YES)" . E.g when i want to do "mysql < /usr/share/mythtv/sql/mc.sql"
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[11:53:00] hor: hmm...i can't even do "mysql -u root mysql"
[12:09:00] maniacxs: Have you set a password for root (mysql)
[12:10:00] maniacxs: what does it say if you "mysql -u root mysql"?
[12:10:00] levon: hor, can't you run it as root (withouth -u root) ?
[12:10:00] levon: just su and run mysql w/o any args.
[12:11:00] maniacxs: looks like he wants to do the initial database ...
[12:11:00] ** levon nods **
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[12:28:00] hor: maniacxs: ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)
[12:28:00] hor: levon: same message ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)
[12:28:00] levon: hor: when doing it as root?
[12:28:00] levon: (not using the -u root option?)
[12:29:00] hor: yep
[12:29:00] levon: then you gotta go and reset your mysql password
[12:29:00] levon: see google for that ;)
[12:29:00] hor: hmm..or re-installing mysql? =)
[12:37:00] levon: dunno if that'll help, since the configuration/db files might be left there to be picked up by your next install.
[12:37:00] levon: better see google of how to reset the password.
[12:37:00] levon: had to do it once, too. but's been a while.
[12:38:00] hor: ok, i am trying to reset the pw right now
[12:40:00] hor: i shall execute safe_mysqld, but i don't have such a command...
[12:40:00] levon: try to locate it
[12:40:00] hor: ah ok...its mysqld_safe here ;)
[12:40:00] levon: aha ;)
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[12:48:00] FaithX: has anyone got AU DVB-T setup with tv_grab_au ?
[12:48:00] hor: levon: DANKE :-)
[12:49:00] levon: did it help? you're welcome.
[12:52:00] DMJC: FaithX...
[12:52:00] DMJC: I did it last night
[12:52:00] DMJC: channel guide won't work for me
[12:52:00] DMJC: did get the actual channels going though
[12:53:00] FaithX: Yup I have the DVB-T working... watching on my 80cm $399 TV I just bought today
[12:53:00] FaithX: But my channel guides are wacked
[12:53:00] DMJC: yeah
[12:54:00] DMJC: basically we're screwed in australia for guides
[12:54:00] FaithX: what card did you used
[12:54:00] DMJC: twinhan
[12:54:00] FaithX: I have the guides ok for Analog
[12:54:00] DMJC: i can only get sbs analog
[12:55:00] FaithX: and yahoo has ABC2 now
[12:55:00] DMJC: abc2's been available via RSS feed for a while now
[12:58:00] laga: hor: are you german?
[13:00:00] hor: laga: yep
[13:01:00] laga: hor: if you'd like to talk about myhtv in your native tongue, you're welcome to join #mythtv-de :)
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[13:02:00] hor: laga: Thx for the Tip :o) Didn't know, that this chan exists
[13:04:00] laga: hor: if you knew mythwiki.de, you'd know that there is a german channel ;)
[13:04:00] hor: laga: hehe ;) Now i know both!
[13:05:00] laga: :)
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[13:11:00] FaithX: DMJC: RSS feed? What is this?
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[14:23:00] smoke_: hey guys, can soemoen point me to where to look how to make my box bypass the login stuff?
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[14:26:00] opello: you could use gdm for that
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[14:50:00] Beirdo: Ugh
[14:51:00] laga: ack
[15:00:00] DickJanie: hey... how do I know that my Nova-T (90002) board is working properly? (running on Mandriva 2005LE) Are the cx88-drivers broken in it?
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[15:56:00] Beirdo: Cardoe: any news on the realplayer stuff?
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[16:20:00] zacs: anyone using lirc to drive a scientific atlanta 3200 dtv terminal?
[16:21:00] Beirdo: not me
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[16:35:00] cortezdapimp: good morning
[16:35:00] cortezdapimp: is there anything special that needs to be done to enable dvd ripping besides installing the lib whose name shall not be mentioned?
[16:36:00] cortezdapimp: my box says it cant connect to the transcoding daemon. transcoding shows seems to work fine though.
[16:36:00] Beirdo: maybe reading the documentation
[16:36:00] GeckoFiend: cortezdapimp you can say here. just not in knoppmyth
[16:36:00] cortezdapimp: gotcha.
[16:36:00] Beirdo: it's kinda grey area here, be careful not to anger the DMCA gods
[16:37:00] cortezdapimp: yea
[16:37:00] cortezdapimp: anyway, dvd playback works fine
[16:38:00] laga: you need to run 'mtd'
[16:39:00] laga: anyone here using ltsp with myhtv?
[16:39:00] zacs: i'm not... what's ltsp?
[16:39:00] laga: linux terminal server project – ltsp.org
[16:40:00] laga: www.myltsptv.org <- there is even a project which attempt to do that, but i dont like their approach
[16:42:00] cortezdapimp: ok so i ssh'ed in and manually ran mtd, it seems to be working.
[16:42:00] cortezdapimp: thanks!
[16:43:00] Beirdo: cortezdapimp: I'm sure that's documented :)
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[16:55:00] rjune: laga: why not?
[17:00:00] laga: rjune: well, they compile mythtv on their suse box and copy the binaries into the ltsp tree. i'm currently compiling my own ltsp tree so i can compile mythtv natively
[17:01:00] rjune: if you do, we want a pkg.def
[17:01:00] rjune: you're just doing the front end right?
[17:02:00] laga: pkg.def?
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[17:02:00] laga: are you a ltsp developer? ;)
[17:02:00] rjune: yup
[17:02:00] rjune: sound guy
[17:02:00] laga: nice
[17:02:00] laga: so you can actually make packages for ltsp. nice to know.
[17:02:00] rjune: yup
[17:03:00] rjune: look in ltsp-src in lbe
[17:03:00] rjune: there are a bunch of dirs, each one should have a file package.def
[17:03:00] rjune: it's pretty convoluted, but it works
[17:03:00] laga: heh
[17:03:00] laga: well, i'll do the whole mythtv package i guess, it's less work. ;)
[17:04:00] rjune: if you ask nice you could prolly convice me to start working on it. I want to use myth stuff in my house
[17:04:00] laga: well, i was going to do it myself. if it isn't very complicated, i should be able to make a package.def file
[17:04:00] rjune: you could also come hang out in #ltsp, I would wager quite a few of us would be interesed in helping you out
[17:05:00] laga: oh, cool!
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[17:05:00] laga: thanks
[17:05:00] rjune: ayup
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[17:11:00] jasoncohen: mythtv isn't filling my tv monitor. there are horizontal bars at the top and bottom. is there a tool for ati like the nvidia one to increase the size of the display?
[17:11:00] jasoncohen: can that be set in XF86Config-4/xorg.conf?
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[17:36:00] jasoncohen: hmm, i'm getting really crappy video performance when i use mythtv on my tv though it's fine on my monitor
[17:36:00] jasoncohen: Beirdo, apparently with the ATI dual head mode both monitors have 3d acceleration though from the performance on my TV, i'm wondering if it has xv support
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[18:06:00] jasoncohen: Beirdo, when i use clone mode, for some reason i only get xv support on the monitor even if i set the TV as the first device. how did you get xv support for your TV?
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[18:11:00] jasoncohen: i think the problem is that it doesn't want to make the TV the primary display. If i try to setup a single display with the TV it shows on my monitor!
[18:12:00] kormoc: soem cards just do not support XV on the tv out.
[18:12:00] Beirdo: jasoncohen: the TV MUST be the primary display
[18:12:00] Beirdo: you may have to edit the file by hand
[18:12:00] Beirdo: it should be MonitorLayout "STV, CRT"
[18:12:00] Beirdo: no AUTO
[18:13:00] jasoncohen: Beirdo, i did
[18:13:00] kormoc: the other option would to be to use twinview's unified back buffer, no?
[18:13:00] jasoncohen: the ONLY way i got it to work was to remove the CRT
[18:13:00] Beirdo: so remove the CRT
[18:13:00] Beirdo: maybe they busted that
[18:13:00] jasoncohen: Beirdo, if the CRT is physically connected it will make that the primary
[18:13:00] Beirdo: so remove the CRT
[18:13:00] jasoncohen: and while i can get video on both displays and do so on each seperately with the dual driver mode, the performance sucks on the TV
[18:13:00] Beirdo: you must have it in AUTO, AUTO then
[18:14:00] jasoncohen: Beirdo, no i had it TV, STV
[18:14:00] jasoncohen: i checked
[18:14:00] Beirdo: uh
[18:14:00] Beirdo: STV, CRT
[18:14:00] jasoncohen: lol, woops
[18:14:00] Beirdo: no TV
[18:14:00] jasoncohen: STV, CRT
[18:14:00] Beirdo: and STV has to be first
[18:14:00] jasoncohen: yeah, that's what i had. i can try again but i don't think i'll see a change
[18:14:00] Beirdo: well then don't run in clone mode, run single display to the TV
[18:14:00] kormoc: what's the xorg's logs say?
[18:15:00] jasoncohen: kormoc, this is on debian so it's still using xfree 4.3
[18:15:00] kormoc: what's the xfree logs say then?
[18:15:00] dark|sleep: heh
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[18:17:00] jasoncohen: kormoc, I think i found the problem
[18:17:00] jasoncohen: i see "video overlay enabled on CRT" but not STV
[18:17:00] kormoc: have you tried using nvidia's twinview?
[18:17:00] jasoncohen: i have an ATI card
[18:18:00] kormoc: have you tried using ATI's BigDesktop?
[18:18:00] jasoncohen: no
[18:18:00] jasoncohen: just dual display and clone
[18:18:00] Beirdo: what the hell good would that do?
[18:18:00] jasoncohen: how would that work?
[18:18:00] kormoc: Beirdo, it uses a unified back buffer so both displays get XV/etc...
[18:18:00] Beirdo: if it's all one desktop, mythtv would want to use the whole desktop
[18:18:00] Beirdo: meh
[18:18:00] kormoc: you can set that in myth, no?
[18:18:00] kormoc: I do...
[18:18:00] Beirdo: that's the same as clone mode, no?
[18:18:00] kormoc: xinerama screen #1 only...
[18:19:00] kormoc: no, it's not
[18:20:00] jasoncohen: hmm, i'll try that
[18:20:00] jasoncohen: kormoc, how do i set it up so mythtv runs on the second half of the display?
[18:20:00] Beirdo: good luck
[18:20:00] kormoc: *please note, I only know how it's suposto work, ati may have fucked it up like normal.
[18:21:00] kormoc: jasoncohen, in the myth frontend settings, there's a option to set which xinerama screen myth runs on, set it to #1 and it will use the second screen.
[18:21:00] jasoncohen: if you use dual display mode with independent drivers shouldn't both have xv?
[18:21:00] kormoc: no.
[18:21:00] jasoncohen: oh
[18:22:00] jasoncohen: i still find that my tv display is slightly too small..i have two horizontal black bands at the top and bottom. does ati have anything to expand it?
[18:22:00] kormoc: Beirdo, I'm using twinview with a ubb and I have myth running only on the second screen by setting just the xinerama screen myth runs on, because myth is happily xinerama aware.
[18:22:00] jasoncohen: kormoc, thanks for the suggestion
[18:22:00] kormoc: no problem.
[18:22:00] Beirdo: sounds like fun
[18:22:00] Beirdo: good luck :)
[18:23:00] jasoncohen: thanks
[18:23:00] Beirdo: and don't be afraid to search the web :)
[18:23:00] jasoncohen: lol, it probably wont' work but there's no loss in trying
[18:24:00] jasoncohen: heh, i'm doing all the configuration over SSH because trying to do anything on a TV is worthless
[18:25:00] Beirdo: smart man. That's the way you should always be configuring X
[18:26:00] Beirdo: I see our little lawyer wannabe is learning :)
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[18:26:00] jasoncohen: UPS is here with my motorola amp
[18:27:00] Beirdo: kormoc: get listening to music, what do you think this is? :)
[18:27:00] Esotericisms: yeah I am waiting for my RF/IR remote ... UPS should be bring it by today
[18:28:00] kormoc: Beirdo, I shall :P
[18:28:00] Beirdo: you too, xris :)
[18:28:00] Beirdo: hehe
[18:28:00] Beirdo: you can tell from my tracks played count... I listen to a lot of music :)
[18:29:00] Beirdo: almost 150 songs in a 24h period
[18:30:00] kormoc: hehe, yeah :)
[18:31:00] xris: me, too, what?
[18:31:00] xris: oh, music
[18:31:00] Beirdo: get listening to music, ya slacker :)
[18:31:00] xris: there. it's playing now.
[18:31:00] Beirdo: hehe
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[18:31:00] xris: doesn't mean I have to listen to it.
[18:31:00] Beirdo: hehe
[18:31:00] xris: need a plugin for mythmusic. heh.
[18:31:00] ** kormoc is listening to a funny commencement speach. **
[18:31:00] xris: not that I can use mythmusic.
[18:32:00] Beirdo: well, we look forward to your patches, xris :)
[18:32:00] Beirdo: hehe
[18:32:00] ** Beirdo hides **
[18:32:00] kormoc: gratz on graduating class of 2005, the world sucks and you can't do anything bout it, have fun!
[18:32:00] Beirdo: it's open source, it shouldn't be hard to add for a C++ programmer
[18:33:00] Esotericisms: I am trying to install nuvexport ... it says it is dependant on "lve" can anyone help?
[18:33:00] Beirdo: yeah, install lve
[18:33:00] xris: Esotericisms: fc3?
[18:34:00] Esotericisms: xris, yes
[18:34:00] ** Beirdo is a smartass today **
[18:34:00] xris: you're SOL, it doesn't compile.
[18:34:00] xris: you can install with --nodeps and just won't get mpeg2cut functionality.
[18:34:00] Beirdo: why doesn't it compile? what did FC3 fuck up?
[18:35:00] Esotericisms: what is lve?
[18:35:00] Beirdo: did you google?
[18:36:00] kormoc: of course not.
[18:36:00] Beirdo: :)
[18:36:00] kormoc: it's faster to bug you about it
[18:36:00] xris: Beirdo: something in the newer gcc
[18:36:00] Beirdo: ahh
[18:36:00] Beirdo: gotcha
[18:36:00] Esotericisms: yes I did google ... but not knowing what it is is difficult
[18:36:00] Beirdo: well, they should fix their borked code
[18:36:00] Esotericisms: lve is too generic
[18:36:00] Beirdo: the hell it is
[18:37:00] Beirdo: google for lve
[18:37:00] Beirdo: and look for things that are video-related
[18:37:00] xris: Esotericisms: second link on google.
[18:37:00] xris: or search for "lve linux"
[18:37:00] Beirdo: we shouldn't have to teach people how to use google
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[18:37:00] Beirdo: bye
[18:37:00] ** kormoc laughs **
[18:37:00] Darkfire: whats google?
[18:38:00] ** xris slaps Darkfire with a blunt trout. **
[18:38:00] rjune: google? isnt' that a really big number?
[18:39:00] kormoc: http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+goog . . . -US:official
[18:40:00] Darkfire: heh, i was just wondering if/what sort of answer i'd get.
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[18:40:00] Dark|WC3 is now known as Dark|WC3-TFT
[18:40:00] Beirdo: Darkfire is now known as Dark|WTF
[18:41:00] Dark|WC3-TFT: :-p
[18:41:00] Dark|WC3-TFT: warcraft 3.
[18:41:00] Dark|WC3-TFT: the frozen throne.
[18:41:00] Dark|WC3-TFT is now known as Dark|WC3-TFT_DoT
[18:41:00] kormoc: must get a cold ass after a little.
[18:41:00] rjune: that's what you're doing?
[18:41:00] Dark|WC3-TFT_DoT: damn, hit the lmint
[18:41:00] rjune: I thought you were doing web devel on a TFT screen
[18:41:00] Dark|WC3-TFT_DoT: it's what i will be doing when i finish playing with my nick.
[18:41:00] Beirdo: hehe
[18:41:00] Dark|WC3-TFT_DoT: heh, nothing quite as meaningful or productive
[18:42:00] Dark|WC3-TFT_DoT is now known as Dark|Elsewhere
[18:42:00] Dark|Elsewhere: anywho, off to the games
[18:42:00] rjune: your nick eh? is that what the kids are calling it these days
[18:42:00] laga: rjune: i guess it was a typo
[18:42:00] Beirdo: put little nick away
[18:42:00] Dark|Elsewhere: yeah, sometimes i find if i play with my nick too much, bad things happen
[18:42:00] rjune: laga: which was a typo?
[18:42:00] Dark|Elsewhere: like just then, i was playing with my nick, and the end got cut off :(
[18:42:00] rjune: Dark|Elsewhere: like you get your keyboard messy?
[18:42:00] laga: rjune: nick ;)
[18:43:00] rjune: heh
[18:43:00] rjune: most of you guys build myth by hand?
[18:43:00] laga: yep
[18:43:00] kormoc: if by hand you mean ebuild, then yet :P
[18:43:00] Beirdo: hahaha
[18:43:00] rjune: I'm trying to build for sles9 but I'm running into a dep problem
[18:44:00] xris: rjune: I build rpm's from cvs, and install the rpm.
[18:44:00] rjune: kormoc: close enough
[18:44:00] rjune: xris: for which distro?
[18:45:00] xris: fc3
[18:45:00] rjune: my problem is mythtv deps on libiec61883
[18:45:00] rjune: I've only found version 1.0 of that lib, and it deps on libraw1394–1.2
[18:46:00] rjune: I don't want to update libraw, because I have to update a bunch of other stuff.
[18:46:00] rjune: but I can't find a version of libiec < 1.0
[18:48:00] rjune: I asked if people built by hand because they would have a better idea how to work around that bit
[18:49:00] GreyFoxx: rjune are you intending to record from firewire ?
[18:49:00] rjune: nope
[18:50:00] GreyFoxx: then don't compile with with firewire suppose and you shouldn;/t need that library
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[18:50:00] Beirdo: welcome back, Esotericisms
[18:50:00] Esotericisms: damnit internet
[18:50:00] Esotericisms: damn*
[18:51:00] Esotericisms: so I guess I am out of luck with nuvexport on FC3 from what I can find out ... has issues compiling
[18:51:00] Beirdo: just install it
[18:51:00] Beirdo: install all the prereqs other than lve, then force it to install with a --nodeps
[18:51:00] Beirdo: like xris said ;)
[18:52:00] Esotericisms: yeah I did that ... hrm ... it won't run other then by root
[18:52:00] Esotericisms: odd
[18:52:00] Beirdo: hmm?
[18:52:00] Beirdo: make install needs to be run as root
[18:52:00] Esotericisms: I did that
[18:53:00] Beirdo: after that it should run fine as any user with permissions on the directory where the video is stored and the current directory
[18:53:00] xris: Esotericisms: it'll warn you if you run as root, but just hit enter and it'll go.
[18:53:00] xris: oh, NOT as root. um, odd. should work fine.
[18:53:00] Esotericisms: yes I know this .. but this is the error I get when I try running as normal user (http://pastebin.ca/12726)
[18:54:00] xris: oh. well, do you have mythtv installed?
[18:54:00] Beirdo: so setup the mysql.txt
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[18:54:00] Esotericisms: yes mythtv is installed
[18:54:00] Esotericisms: sheesh
[18:55:00] Esotericisms: why would I try to run this if I didn;t have nuvexport installed
[18:55:00] Esotericisms: doh! mythtv installed*
[18:55:00] xris: you need mysql.txt somewhere that nuvexport can read it.. which is in /etc/mythtv, /usr/share/mythtv, ~/.mythtv, etc
[18:55:00] Beirdo: I dunno, people do all kinds of strange things
[18:55:00] Esotericisms: ok
[18:55:00] Esotericisms: I haven't done anything weird
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[18:55:00] naddar: anyone can help
[18:56:00] naddar: i have problems with installing mythtv
[18:56:00] naddar: i use debian
[18:56:00] xris: naddar: more info
[18:56:00] naddar: and did ./configure
[18:56:00] naddar: but then
[18:56:00] xris: (why not just use apt to install it?)
[18:56:00] naddar: dont find it :(
[18:57:00] Esotericisms: xris, does mythtv or nuvexport create the mysql.txt
[18:57:00] naddar: i use debian sarge and dont find a ftp with myth on it
[18:57:00] xris: Esotericisms: mythtv does when you first run it.
[18:57:00] xris: naddar: google?
[18:57:00] Esotericisms: xris, mythbackend creates it?
[18:57:00] xris: the devs use deb/ubuntu, so I know there are packages out there.
[18:57:00] xris: Esotericisms: mythtvsetup and mythfrontend
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[18:58:00] Dark|Elsewhere: BLARG! I am getting 10.3 Kbps in my 'high speed internet' apartment
[18:58:00] Esotericisms: hrm .. must have at some point accidentally ran it as root ... cause it exists in .mythtv/ in the roots home
[18:58:00] xris: Esotericisms: if nuvexport runs as root, you probably ran mythtv as root.. just `cp -r /root/.mythtv /home/username/`
[18:58:00] xris: and then chmod
[18:59:00] xris: or move mysql.txt to /etc/mythtv/ and call it good
[18:59:00] Dark|Elsewhere: why chmod instead of chown?
[18:59:00] Esotericisms: ok
[18:59:00] kormoc: chown would be perfered imho.
[18:59:00] xris: Dark|Elsewhere: typo on my part
[18:59:00] Esotericisms: nm, I figured it out ...
[19:01:00] Esotericisms: xris, you have any recommendations on what options to answer yes/no to during nuvexport ... I am wanting to convert these to DVD format to burn to a DVD
[19:03:00] Esotericisms: or anyone?
[19:04:00] naddar: xris: ok i give it aa try hope it works
[19:05:00] kormoc: yes/no/yes/no/no/no/yes/yes/monkey/grape/wine/vodka/vodka/teddy/bear/sleep/rocke t/tulip/howard/stern's/penis!/babba/booey/babba/booey/zoop/zoop/yes/no/no/hell/n o
[19:05:00] Beirdo: hehe
[19:05:00] Esotericisms: what is Myth cutlist?
[19:06:00] naddar: notting
[19:06:00] naddar: :(
[19:07:00] Esotericisms: what is a good FPS rate during transcoding
[19:07:00] naddar: anyone knows a good ftp for mythtv in sources.list
[19:07:00] GreyFoxx: what is sources.list?
[19:07:00] zacs: apt
[19:08:00] GreyFoxx: ahh
[19:08:00] GreyFoxx: no wonder I didn't know what it was :)
[19:08:00] kormoc: Esotericisms, a million fps is a WONDERFUL speed
[19:08:00] Esotericisms: everyone is a smart ass around here :)
[19:09:00] Beirdo: better a smartass than a dumbass, I say
[19:09:00] Esotericisms: 10? 20? 30? (what is average)
[19:09:00] ** GeckoFiend insert obligitory "better than a dumbass" comment **
[19:09:00] Beirdo: heh
[19:09:00] GeckoFiend: Beirdo bah!
[19:09:00] Beirdo: beat ya, GeckoFiend  :)
[19:09:00] Beirdo: Esotericisms... depends on CPU, etc
[19:09:00] Beirdo: so just see what you get
[19:10:00] Esotericisms: I am getting around 20–25 ish
[19:10:00] ** CyberKnet is getting digital cable for a few months :( **
[19:11:00] Beirdo: that's decent
[19:12:00] CyberKnet: meh
[19:12:00] CyberKnet: oh, to eso. heh
[19:12:00] CyberKnet: *grin*
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[19:12:00] naddar: anyone use debian
[19:12:00] naddar: sarge
[19:13:00] rtsai: yes, sort of
[19:13:00] naddar: rtsai: you got a link for apt for mythtv install
[19:13:00] rtsai: naddar: oh, no i use CVS for mythtv
[19:14:00] naddar: cvs???
[19:14:00] laga: naddar: google for "mdz packages" or something like that
[19:15:00] naddar: laga: i just find for woody and unstable
[19:15:00] naddar: not for testing
[19:16:00] laga: well, the stable packages probably work, too. or get the sources and rebuild the packages.
[19:16:00] rtsai: naddar: search the mailing list archives, someone else put up a link to debian packages, maybe they will work for you
[19:16:00] rjune: libXvMCW <-- anybody know what this is for?
[19:16:00] rtsai: umm, xvmc?
[19:17:00] rjune: rtsai: I think you're thinking of vnc
[19:17:00] rjune: rtsai: aka desktop sharing
[19:19:00] laga: xvmc is some kind of hardware acceleration for mpeg2 videos
[19:20:00] Dark|Elsewhere: out of sheer curiousity, does anyone know of a software package for windows that would allow me to install it on a couple systems, and have them share the bandwidth and me connect through them?
[19:20:00] kormoc: rjune, http://www.xfree86.org/~mvojkovi/XvMC_API.txt
[19:20:00] kormoc: rjune, google is your friend
[19:20:00] rjune: oh, cool
[19:20:00] Dark|Elsewhere: these damn apartments set a 250MB a day limit, and then they cut you down to 10kbps. =/
[19:20:00] rjune: kormoc: was getting at-rpms
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[19:21:00] Dr_Barnowl: Is there any kind of http based remote for mythfrontend?
[19:21:00] naddar: i'm new on it and not easy but a good try is allways ok :(
[19:21:00] kormoc: Dr_Barnowl, mythweb
[19:21:00] Dark|Elsewhere: Dr_Barnowl, google for mythweb
[19:21:00] Dark|Elsewhere: well, thats more a remote for the backend, i guess
[19:21:00] kormoc: tis all there is really
[19:21:00] Dr_Barnowl: Yeah, I've got that, I wanted one to run the frontend
[19:22:00] kormoc: vnc would work in theory
[19:22:00] jasoncohen: Beirdo, what did you have to do to make mythtv fill your whole TV screen?
[19:22:00] Beirdo: nothing
[19:22:00] Beirdo: it just does it
[19:22:00] jasoncohen: Beirdo, i've decided to just use the single display setup. it's easy and it works
[19:22:00] Dr_Barnowl: kormoc: Hmm, I could try that.
[19:22:00] Beirdo: precisely
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[19:22:00] naddar: exit
[19:22:00] Beirdo: you may need to tweek the overscan stuff in the X config to get it to look "perfect" though
[19:22:00] naddar: exit
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[19:22:00] jasoncohen: Beirdo, hmm, do you know of any utility that can make it larger? the nview gui tool that comes with the nvidia drivers works but i doubt it would work with an ATI card
[19:23:00] jasoncohen: Beirdo, you can set an overscan setting in X config
[19:23:00] Beirdo: there is one that comes with the ati drivers
[19:23:00] Dr_Barnowl: jasoncohen: You can fiddle the values in xorg.conf
[19:23:00] Beirdo: yes
[19:23:00] jasoncohen: Beirdo, what's the tool called?
[19:23:00] Dr_Barnowl: jasoncohen: But I don't know for ATI..
[19:23:00] Beirdo: there is a program to tweak it, then you put the values in the conf
[19:23:00] Beirdo: I dunno
[19:23:00] Beirdo: rpm -ql fgrlx
[19:23:00] Beirdo: or whatever the RPM was called
[19:23:00] Beirdo: it builds it
[19:25:00] jasoncohen: hmm, maybe someone will know on debian
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[19:27:00] darkfire: Beirdo, i need a tool to allow me to use multiple window's machines (on a LAN) network ports instead of my own for outgoing connections. any thoughts?
[19:27:00] darkfire: it's hard to google when i only have a vague idea of what i need
[19:27:00] Beirdo: yeah
[19:27:00] Beirdo: go search google
[19:27:00] Beirdo: :)
[19:28:00] opello: ssh tunnels :)
[19:28:00] darkfire: yeah, because google only has a few listings for "proxy" =/
[19:28:00] opello: look for 'tunnel' not 'proxy'
[19:29:00] darkfire: opello, ssh tunnels would work, but i need an easy way to configure my linux box to use more than one server transparently
[19:30:00] Beirdo: bah
[19:30:00] darkfire: in short, i want to circumvent this stupid 250mb a day limit on my network port, and i have no idea how the best way would be :-p
[19:31:00] darkfire: because i'm not a friggin file-sharer, i just USE the internet.
[19:31:00] CyberKnet: darkfire: you would use whatever ip filters that the kernel is using these days
[19:32:00] CyberKnet: in combination with ssh tunnels
[19:32:00] darkfire: CyberKnet, can you point me in the direction of a good place to start researching that? i havent done much work with this sort of thing
[19:32:00] CyberKnet: nope, I have a decent internet connection, and have never needed to look into it. try google.
[19:32:00] CyberKnet: ipfilters should start a good search
[19:33:00] ** CyberKnet hasn't used that kind of kernel stuff since ipfwadm **
[19:33:00] CyberKnet: back in 98
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[19:33:00] CyberKnet: it's been rewritten twice since then
[19:33:00] CyberKnet: ipchains and ipfilters I think
[19:33:00] rtsai: darkfire: if you are talking about using Windows machines to do your dirty work, look for "vnc" or "winvnc"
[19:35:00] darkfire: searching while under the iron fist of the 10kbps limit != good times
[19:35:00] darkfire: i cant believe this is the best way that these guys thought of to control sharing
[19:35:00] CyberKnet: darkfire: so do it from one of those windows machines
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[19:35:00] darkfire: CyberKnet, that'd be too easy :-p plus they are in another building
[19:36:00] CyberKnet: darkfire: they don't belong to you?
[19:36:00] darkfire: erm
[19:36:00] darkfire: they are made availible for my usage?
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[19:36:00] CyberKnet: I think you shouldn't be asking about this in here any more.
[19:37:00] darkfire: fair enough
[19:37:00] darkfire: not trying to do anything wrong, just examining my options
[19:37:00] marcelJ: does anyone know how to record from radio on a pvr-350 ? Not necessary with mythtv.
[19:38:00] Beirdo: I'm sure google can help
[19:40:00] marcelJ: been googling for about an hour and found nothing useful
[19:40:00] CyberKnet: j-rod: ping me when you get in please?
[19:41:00] CyberKnet: marcelJ: search the ivtv-dev lists
[19:42:00] marcelJ: I'll try, thanks
[19:42:00] bigslam: yo
[19:43:00] j-rod: CyberKnet, I'm in, but about to head out for a few... What's up?
[19:43:00] marcelJ: it's just that the show I want to record starts in about 2 hours and I now can only record by hooking up my laptop to the output of my myth box. There should be soemthing more simple I guess.
[19:44:00] jasoncohen: Beirdo, i can't seem to find any info on an ati utility for tv-out other than some unofficial and very old project called ativout
[19:45:00] Beirdo: who said anything about for tv-out?
[19:45:00] jasoncohen: Beirdo, i think i'll just use trial and error to get the overscan setting through XF86Config-4.
[19:45:00] bigslam: SBT TV+FM Tuner/Capture PCI Card ($24)
[19:45:00] bigslam: ----------------------------------------------------
[19:45:00] bigslam: (Posted: 5/25/05 1:00 PM, Expires: 5/26/05 11:00 PM)
[19:45:00] bigslam: Computer Geeks has the SBT Television + FM Radio Tuner/Capture PCI Card on sale for $23.99 plus shipping. Unlike bulk OEM models for the same price, this retail package includes software, antenna, remote control, and various cables. Stock will probably sell out fast.
[19:45:00] Beirdo: there's a utility for tweaking video settings, and it comes with the drivers
[19:45:00] jasoncohen: Beirdo, well, i thought you said there was a tool that allowed you to tweak the overscan settings..i would imagine that was for tv-out
[19:46:00] jasoncohen: Beirdo, you mean fglrxconfig?
[19:46:00] Beirdo: no
[19:46:00] Beirdo: that generates a config file
[19:46:00] Beirdo: it's something else
[19:54:00] jasoncohen: Beirdo, i checked the contents of the fglrx-driver and the fglrx-kernel-source and the only binaries i see are fgl_glxgears, fglrxconfig, fglrxinfo, fglrx_xgamma
[19:54:00] Beirdo: oh well
[19:54:00] Beirdo: tweak it by hand
[19:55:00] jasoncohen: the problem is that ati documentation sucks. i looked through their "manual". they don't have a list of command line options so i don't know the syntax for the overscan setting
[19:55:00] jasoncohen: but instructions for nvidia are everywhere
[19:55:00] Beirdo: command line options?!!
[19:56:00] Beirdo: edit the damn config
[19:56:00] Beirdo: vi
[19:56:00] jasoncohen: sorry, meant configuration option for XF86Config-4
[19:56:00] jasoncohen: i.e the line to use to set the overscan setting
[19:57:00] Beirdo: TVHSizeAdj
[19:57:00] Beirdo: TVVSizeAdj
[19:57:00] Beirdo: etc.
[19:57:00] Beirdo: they are option lines
[19:57:00] jasoncohen: thanks
[19:58:00] Esotericisms: damn I am down to 16 FPS
[19:59:00] xris: Esotericisms: encoding what?
[19:59:00] Esotericisms: to DVD
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[19:59:00] GreyFoxx: What are you recording with?
[20:00:00] xris: I'm used to xvid encoding speeds of like 6fps. heh.
[20:00:00] Esotericisms: I am using nuvexport (idk)
[20:00:00] GreyFoxx: Esotericisms: What type recording is the source? Mpeg4 or Mpeg2 from a pvrx50 card ?
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[20:00:00] Esotericisms: pvr150 (mpeg2)
[20:01:00] GreyFoxx: You could likely get away with not having to reencode it :)
[20:01:00] GreyFoxx: I don't reencode mine
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[20:01:00] Esotericisms: then how do I burn the nuv to a dvd so that it is playable in a dvd?
[20:02:00] GreyFoxx: Esotericisms: the file is already in a format that the DVD player will understand. You just need to "import" it into something that will create the proper DVD directory structure to burn
[20:02:00] Esotericisms: sweet!
[20:02:00] Esotericisms: learn something new every day ...
[20:02:00] GreyFoxx: At least, I've never had a problem doing that
[20:03:00] Esotericisms: can nero do it?
[20:03:00] GreyFoxx: A DVD is just a bunch of mpeg2 files with some special indexes and other junk
[20:03:00] xris: Esotericisms: it might, actually.
[20:03:00] Esotericisms: ok
[20:03:00] Esotericisms: I will have to check it out
[20:03:00] xris: you need to demux and remux the file (it's not really a nuv file) so it's dvd-friendly, and nero might do that.
[20:03:00] Esotericisms: k
[20:03:00] GreyFoxx: Exactly
[20:03:00] Esotericisms: time to turn samba on in fc3
[20:03:00] xris: would be better if we could get mpeg2cut working in fc3 to cut commercials, though.
[20:03:00] GreyFoxx: I've never tried in Nero, but it ight do it. It's rare I do it
[20:04:00] Esotericisms: yeah I wish
[20:04:00] GreyFoxx: I use avidemux to cut commericals, then import into another app and burn. Mostly just a few episodes of something my father missed
[20:04:00] GreyFoxx: but since I setup his mythbox it's rare I do that :)
[20:04:00] Esotericisms: that is why I am doing it
[20:04:00] Esotericisms: ok .. what program do you use to burn to dvd?
[20:05:00] GreyFoxx: I think the last few times I used tmpegenc or something like that.
[20:05:00] jasoncohen: Beirdo, lol, TVHsizeAdj, TVVSizeAdj, TVVPosAdj and TVHPosAdj don't seem to do anything. i've tried settings between .5 and 25 with no discernable affect
[20:05:00] GreyFoxx: It;'s so rare I just figure it out all over again each time in whatever app is handtyt
[20:06:00] Esotericisms: jasoncohen, what are they suppose to do?
[20:06:00] marcelJ: if you have an mpeg file you can create a DVD in Linux using dvdauthor.
[20:06:00] jasoncohen: Esotericisms, TVVSizeAdj and TVHSizeAdj should allow you to increase the size of the tv image allowing you to do over or underscan
[20:06:00] marcelJ: dvdauthor --title -f some.mpg -o DVD
[20:06:00] marcelJ: dvdauthor -T -o DVD
[20:06:00] marcelJ: growisofs -dvd-compat -dvd-video -speed=4 -Z /dev/dvd ./DVD/*
[20:07:00] Esotericisms: marcelJ, so what would I need to do to convert from the myth nuv to mpg to use dvdauthor?
[20:07:00] marcelJ: Didn't try it with the nuv things yet.
[20:07:00] GreyFoxx: Esotericisms: The .nuv is only a mpeg file with a different file extension. rename the file or copy it to newname.mpg
[20:07:00] marcelJ: let's google for that....
[20:07:00] Esotericisms: hrm ..
[20:08:00] Esotericisms: ok cool
[20:08:00] Esotericisms: looking for dvdauthor right now
[20:08:00] Esotericisms: hey marcelJ, how can I take two .mpg and put them on one dvd with dvdauthor
[20:09:00] ** xris curses the devs for using .nuv on non-NUV files. **
[20:09:00] GeckoFiend: Esotericisms try avidemux
[20:09:00] GreyFoxx: xris: heh yeah
[20:09:00] Esotericisms: GeckoFiend, why?
[20:09:00] GeckoFiend: to combine mpegs
[20:09:00] xris: avidemux has occasionally some sync issues with cutting commercials and/or remuxing.
[20:09:00] marcelJ: avidemux could work, or transcode. but I also think dvdauthor can hanle multiple files.
[20:09:00] GreyFoxx: It should make a DB entry containing the filename(which could include a path) and not just assuming its channel-timestamp.nuv
[20:09:00] GreyFoxx: that would be quiet handy
[20:10:00] xris: GreyFoxx: it was determined that that would be too much effort to maintain.
[20:10:00] Esotericisms: hey marcelJ, you are referring to the dvdauthor on sourceforge correct?
[20:10:00] GreyFoxx: I must have missed that convo
[20:10:00] xris: Esotericisms: look at nuv2disk
[20:11:00] Esotericisms: damnit, how many different programs are you all going to suggest to me :) :P
[20:11:00] marcelJ: yes
[20:11:00] Esotericisms: alright, what does that one do?
[20:12:00] ** kormoc would love /home/nobody/myth/Show_Name/Show_Name_Num_Name.mpg4 **
[20:12:00] GeckoFiend: Esotericisms takes a myt hrecording an makes a dvd
[20:12:00] Esotericisms: I like that .. looking for the app now
[20:12:00] GeckoFiend: kormoc look in the contrib directory for "mythlink"
[20:12:00] marcelJ: I'll try it here with the nuv file.
[20:12:00] marcelJ: see if it really works.
[20:13:00] Esotericisms: ok
[20:13:00] Esotericisms: let me know ...
[20:13:00] Esotericisms: any idea on where to get that app?
[20:13:00] kormoc: GeckoFiend, ooh, I shall take a look :)
[20:13:00] xris: jams probably knows.  ;)
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[20:15:00] johnboy12358: anyone here?
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[20:16:00] rjune: nope
[20:16:00] johnboy12358: ok well i got a question then :)
[20:16:00] johnboy12358: the input on my pvr150 is waaaaay bright
[20:16:00] Esotericisms: xris, you know where I can get nuv2disk?
[20:16:00] johnboy12358: and pushing 'g' in myth and changing those settings doesnt do anything at all
[20:16:00] xris: Esotericisms: google doesn't come up with anything?
[20:17:00] zacs: Esotericisms: http://extras.mythtvtalk.com/
[20:17:00] zacs: google found it for me
[20:17:00] zacs: maybe your google is broken :P
[20:17:00] johnboy12358: is there someway to change the input brightness/hue/contrast on ivtv?
[20:18:00] Esotericisms: zacs, what was your search string?
[20:18:00] zacs: nuv2disk
[20:19:00] rjune: zacs: don't joke about that, google was broken
[20:19:00] xris: johnboy12358: in mythtv... hit G while watching livetv.
[20:19:00] xris: it's configured per-channel.
[20:19:00] Esotericisms: I can take a screenshot of my results, but seriously ... with 'nuv2disk' there is not link to http://extras.mythtvtalk.com
[20:19:00] johnboy12358: i did that, it doesnt change anything
[20:19:00] zacs: Esotericisms: it's linked off littlegems – mythtv.info
[20:19:00] johnboy12358: the image is still to bright even if i set the brightness to 0%
[20:20:00] Esotericisms: that page was timing out for me
[20:20:00] johnboy12358: in fact, the image doesnt change at all when i use the g method
[20:20:00] Esotericisms: figures
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[20:20:00] marcelJ: Esotericisms: renaming the nuv file doesn't seem to work for dvdauthor.
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[20:21:00] zacs: btw, the problems i was having with controlling a SA3200 DTV box via lircd instantly went away when i ditched the ACT-200L and went with the homebrew adapter
[20:21:00] Esotericisms: I am going to try an app called nuv2disk, marcelJ
[20:21:00] marcelJ: I guess maybe nuvexport is needed for that.
[20:21:00] marcelJ: ok, it also seems to use nuvexport.
[20:22:00] johnboy12358: anyone have any ideas?
[20:22:00] marcelJ: nobody knwos how to record from the radio device properly on a pvr-350 ?
[20:23:00] CyberKnet: aah crap
[20:23:00] CyberKnet: my work got in the way sorry johnboy12358
[20:23:00] CyberKnet: ack
[20:23:00] CyberKnet: j-rod:
[20:23:00] johnboy12358: oh its cool man
[20:28:00] xris: johnboy12358: takes the image a few seconds to change... but it *should* work. worked fine for me with my bttv card, and works great with my pvr-150.
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[20:32:00] Esotericisms: wtf!
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[20:32:00] Esotericisms: all you were owned by niven
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[20:32:00] johnboy12358: xris, alright brb
[20:33:00] johnboy12358: xris, you were right, thanks for the pointer
[20:33:00] jasoncohen: damn, ati sucks
[20:34:00] jasoncohen: nvidia has a comprehensive readme that explains each option available
[20:34:00] jasoncohen: ati has a FAQ and a few bits of info
[20:35:00] johnboy12358: xris, is there a global setting that i can try instead of per-channel?
[20:36:00] hadees: jasoncohen, except nvidia keeps screwing up parts of their driver
[20:37:00] marcelJ: giving up on pvr-350 radio and hooking up an old analog tuner to the soundcard......
[20:37:00] hadees: does th pvr-350 even have radio?
[20:37:00] smoke_: hey guys, how do i make the system boot without a login?
[20:37:00] hadees: i thought that was on the newer cards
[20:37:00] smoke_: straight into x
[20:37:00] smoke_: to start mythtv?
[20:37:00] hadees: smoke_, gdm
[20:38:00] marcelJ: actually the radio even works, but only no proper software works with it (yet).
[20:38:00] marcelJ: I can play radio, but not record.
[20:39:00] smoke_: k
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[20:39:00] hadees: smoke_, have it auto log you in and then you have in your .xinitrc file or whatever exec mythfrontend
[20:40:00] Rigga: anyone help me to set up an ir blaster to change channels~?
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[20:41:00] hadees: can you change the channel over firewire yet?
[20:41:00] hadees: you can capture right?
[20:42:00] Rigga: are you talkin to me?
[20:42:00] hadees: Rigga, not really but if you can you should do that instead of IR blaster
[20:42:00] Rigga: my sky digibox does not have firewire
[20:42:00] hadees: Rigga, sky? oh is that sat?
[20:43:00] Rigga: yes i am in the UK
[20:43:00] hadees: ah never mind then you do need that, in the US digital cable companies have to provide a firewire port
[20:43:00] Esotericisms: well I can't get nuv2disk installed
[20:43:00] hadees: but alot don't do it unless you demand it
[20:43:00] Rigga: i can change channels using it from the command line but i need to be able to do it from within mythtv but I have no idea how to
[20:44:00] hadees: Rigga, wait so the blaster works from the command line?
[20:44:00] Rigga: yep works a treat from command line
[20:44:00] hadees: dude i know there is a guide there, you need to write a script or something
[20:44:00] hadees: use google
[20:44:00] hadees: the script gets called by mythtv
[20:44:00] hadees: when it wants to change channels
[20:45:00] Rigga: ive searched cant find a thing, how does mythtv pass the channel number to the script?
[20:45:00] hadees: no clue i don't use it, but there is one there, search the mythtv mailing lists
[20:45:00] Rigga: ive written a script based loosely on one provided with lirc but that does not appear to work – is that the one you are thinking of?
[20:46:00] hadees: like i said i don't know, i haven't used an iR blaster but i have used mythtv for almost 2 years and I know i saw a guide for that somewhere
[20:46:00] hadees: infact a few of them
[20:46:00] smoke_: do u hae to install the love kenrel package to get lirc working?
[20:46:00] smoke_: or is that just so its built into the kernel?
[20:46:00] hadees: smoke_, you shouldn't use love kernel
[20:47:00] hadees: smoke_, and for a module with lirc it depends on what kind of IR hardware you ahve
[20:47:00] Rigga: is there aneay way to search the myth-users lists?
[20:47:00] hadees: yeah there is a search engine
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[20:47:00] Rigga: that should read easy way
[20:47:00] hadees: saerch for mythtv mailing list
[20:48:00] Rigga: found it thanks, fingers crossed i get a solution cause this is the last peice of the puzzle
[20:49:00] hadees: Rigga, i hope you take this as in the future you need to search harder
[20:49:00] laga: the nuvola theme is very nice
[20:49:00] hadees: nuvola?
[20:49:00] hadees: where is that
[20:49:00] Rigga: roger roger
[20:49:00] laga: umich2.com
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[20:50:00] hadees: laga, eh its okay
[20:51:00] hadees: nothing that amazing
[20:51:00] Esotericisms: damnit ..
[20:51:00] hadees: although it is nice to start seeing new themes
[20:51:00] hadees: got stale there for a while
[20:51:00] mirak: hi
[20:51:00] laga: hehe
[20:51:00] laga: hadees: well, it's completely different from the other themes i've seen.
[20:51:00] laga: i'd like to have a theme with an icy land scape
[20:53:00] hadees: laga, look at http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythThemes
[20:53:00] hadees: besides the back ground it looks pretty similar
[20:53:00] hadees: i really liked the Visor Theme but no one is updating it
[20:53:00] laga: i was referring to the back ground ;)
[20:54:00] hadees: laga, well then put any background you want in, hehe
[20:54:00] laga: yeah, visor rocked. so did sleek. does sleek still work?
[20:54:00] ** laga uses julius atm **
[20:54:00] laga: hadees: i'm a slacker ;)
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[20:54:00] hadees: laga, i think it might still work but it is missing icons
[20:54:00] laga: :/
[20:54:00] hadees: thats the problem as mytthv grows themes have to keep up
[20:55:00] hadees: and they just really haven't
[20:55:00] laga: yeah
[20:55:00] laga: and it kinda sucks that the lxmsuite.com people wont give out their themes for free ;)
[20:55:00] hadees: they have no themes
[20:55:00] hadees: they have nothing yet really
[20:56:00] laga: yeah, but they have some nice mockups
[20:56:00] hadees: laga, and why does it suck they have a right to make money, i would like to do the same thing with mythtv
[20:56:00] hadees: think about the future, would you rather have someone selling mythtv addons or windows media player addons
[20:56:00] hadees: media center
[20:56:00] rjune: 1lxm, those are the guys that have the tv schedule subscription right?
[20:57:00] hadees: yeah
[20:57:00] laga: yeah, it's their right, indeed. and i'd pay them but i gotta ask them if they could provide EPG data for europe. $5 is too much for not getting epg data ;)
[20:57:00] hadees: laga, i think what they said is if there is enough users they will do it
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[20:58:00] hadees: i would like mytthv to be the defacto pvr platform and then have other companies mabey sell commerical plugins while at the same time improving the core plugins which are opensource and will always remain opensource
[20:59:00] laga: i'd be even better if the plugins would be open source, too
[20:59:00] laga: but there arent many projects that get supported like mythtv, it's nice.
[20:59:00] hadees: laga, yeah it would be nice if everything is free but you can't run a company on good intentions
[20:59:00] rjune: few things that would be nice about myth though.
[21:00:00] rjune: ability to edit all the info about a show would be good
[21:00:00] Beirdo: laga: I heard a rumor that the themes will be available to all
[21:00:00] ** laga totally wants a working mythburn thingie. **
[21:01:00] laga: Beirdo: nice
[21:02:00] rjune: sigh is it just me, or are the talk to me automated answering machines really annoying
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[21:02:00] laga: i think that downloading software with 123byte/s is more annoying.
[21:02:00] Beirdo: Umm, I think the software will be all open source, laga
[21:03:00] Beirdo: not that either of us care yet, we don't get service
[21:03:00] laga: yep
[21:04:00] laga: Beirdo: but themes aren't really 'software'. well, they are, but they aren't patches against mythtv's codebase.. ;)
[21:04:00] Beirdo: the plugins are opensource too
[21:04:00] Beirdo: and useless without an account
[21:04:00] Beirdo: at least that's my understanding
[21:05:00] laga: yeah
[21:06:00] laga: hey rjune, can i run simple shell scripts in a package.def?
[21:06:00] rjune: Uhm, yeah
[21:07:00] rjune: I think so, it's been a while since I've done it
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[21:08:00] laga: rjune: k, thanks
[21:08:00] laga: rjune: is there any documentations apart from the wiki that i probably have missed?
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[21:10:00] rjune: laga: nope
[21:10:00] rjune: way too little docs
[21:10:00] Beirdo: slePP: you awake?
[21:11:00] Esotericisms: GreyFoxx, you around?
[21:11:00] laga: rjune: sadly, yes. especially for the not-so-geeky ones like me ;)
[21:12:00] Beirdo: laga: don't fool yourself. you geek
[21:12:00] Esotericisms: Beirdo, I got my Niveus remote ... not everything is working 100% yet thought
[21:12:00] Beirdo: keep workin on it
[21:13:00] laga: Beirdo: hey. i was exposed to the sun today and i didn't melt!
[21:13:00] Esotericisms: yeah .. I am going to restart my system ...
[21:13:00] Beirdo: laga: not all geeks are adverse to sunlight
[21:13:00] Esotericisms: the mouse pad on the remote controls the mouse
[21:13:00] laga: Beirdo: well, and i took a shower.
[21:13:00] Beirdo: hehe
[21:15:00] Esotericisms: Beirdo, when I went and switched out my video card at CompUSA yesterday, I got a better one on accident ... instead of the it being a GeForce FX5500 (128DDR) like the packaging said, it was a GeForce FX5700 VE (256MB DDR)
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[21:17:00] Esotericisms: GreyFoxx, you around? I could use your help
[21:17:00] jasoncohen: Beirdo, the gui program is called fireglcontrol
[21:17:00] Beirdo: that could be it
[21:17:00] jasoncohen: i installed it but it's not helping much. It's not fixing the overscan issue
[21:17:00] telenieko: hi ppl. I just updated my CVS and found that new mess of modules... could somebody give me a clue on what are those modules? specially: MFE, MFD, mythmovietime, mythui and themestringstool. I never saw them :o thanks :)
[21:17:00] jasoncohen: though i can move the screen up or down
[21:17:00] jasoncohen: i can't make it larger
[21:18:00] Beirdo: edit the config file
[21:18:00] Beirdo: I already tolt you what lines to look for
[21:18:00] jasoncohen: and i did
[21:18:00] jasoncohen: it's not doing anything
[21:18:00] Beirdo: heh
[21:18:00] jasoncohen: i can move the screen up,down, left, right but it's not getting larger
[21:18:00] ** Beirdo shrugs **
[21:19:00] Beirdo: it works fine for me
[21:24:00] Esotericisms: hey Beirdo, so my new remote ... doesn't seem that any of the keybinds work in mythtv
[21:25:00] ** Beirdo shrugs **
[21:25:00] Beirdo: talk to GreyFoxx
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[21:26:00] jasoncohen: Beirdo, there's either a physical limitation on my TV or the ati driver is crap. I was able to get rid of the top border by increasing the vertical size by 50 and then moving the screen up 10 pixels to cover the top...unfortunately, even if i push the screen down 10–20 pixels the bottom black border remains
[21:27:00] jasoncohen: it's possible i never noticed because the TV is usually level with my sight rather than below it like it is in its new position
[21:27:00] kormoc: I vote for crappy ati drivers
[21:27:00] Beirdo: I vote for pebcak
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[21:32:00] LedHed: anyone using a Mac Mini for a frontend yet?
[21:32:00] rjune: probably not in linux, I don't think the audio card works
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[21:33:00] LedHed: won't Myth compile on OSX?
[21:35:00] smoke_: does mythtv have a mutlicast streaming mod?
[21:35:00] fryfrog: how the hell does monster cable get away with charging $150+ for a DVI->HDMI cable?
[21:36:00] LedHed: cuz morons will pay that much
[21:36:00] fryfrog: smoke_: what good would multi-cast streaming really do?
[21:36:00] LedHed: exactly
[21:36:00] fryfrog: god, what a crock of shit
[21:36:00] fryfrog: its a digital signal... it'll either get through or it wont
[21:36:00] rjune: flatronf700B: I could blast a movie to all monitors in my house
[21:36:00] LedHed: so dont buy monster
[21:36:00] rjune: fryfrog: ^
[21:37:00] fryfrog: duh ;p
[21:37:00] LedHed: it can already do that
[21:37:00] fryfrog: i got some $15 cable from tigerdirect
[21:38:00] kormoc: fryfrog, as it stands now, to send the same signal to three monitors, it takes 3x the bandwidth, multicasting would take 1x, iirc
[21:38:00] rjune: LedHed: syncronized?
[21:38:00] fryfrog: kormoc: true, but of course all 3 monitors would have to want to watch the same thing
[21:38:00] fryfrog: kormoc: and i'm 98% sure that the networking equipment between the multicaster and the destination has to support it
[21:38:00] LedHed: ah. that would be cool I guess
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[21:39:00] fryfrog: cool, but of limited usefulness
[21:39:00] LedHed: except I only have 2 eyes so the same movie on 3 TV's might be a bit excessive.  ;)
[21:39:00] rjune: I could see uses
[21:39:00] kormoc: fryfrog, indeed, but I wouldn't mind milticasting to say, moniros all over the house, so I could walk around and watch, but ya, not really practical
[21:39:00] rjune: places like wal mart
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[21:39:00] fryfrog: uh
[21:40:00] fryfrog: places like walmart just grab the signal and repeat it
[21:40:00] fryfrog: why would you spend $500 on each computer to dupe a signal that a device where you only need one?
[21:40:00] laga: fsck, half of the gnu ftp mirrors are down.
[21:40:00] fryfrog: bad english, but maybe you know what i mean :)
[21:41:00] fryfrog: what happens if somoene in one viewing station wants to pause it?
[21:41:00] kormoc: some people have multicastable routing eq already?
[21:41:00] kormoc: it pauses for everyone! :P
[21:41:00] fryfrog: does everyone have to wait while they pee?
[21:42:00] Beirdo: no
[21:42:00] kormoc: or just not let it pause
[21:42:00] GeckoFiend: kormoc rtsp support is planned...
[21:42:00] kormoc: or cache it locally.
[21:42:00] fryfrog: the network bw savings from "multicasting" would really require 10+ users before it became any real benefit
[21:42:00] Beirdo: they can watch it on the bathroom TV
[21:42:00] kormoc: GeckoFiend, awesome.
[21:42:00] fryfrog: but a sync'd playback could be interesting at the very least :)
[21:43:00] fryfrog: what would be cool is if we all implanted rfid, then when we walked away it would pause and when we went downstairs it would play what we were watching
[21:43:00] fryfrog: also, the goverment knowing when you poop
[21:43:00] kormoc: they do already
[21:43:00] LedHed: waste of developement time, unless he plans to write it himself
[21:43:00] kormoc: they run the sewers!
[21:44:00] kormoc: LedHed, it's all volenteer run, it's a waste of noones time...
[21:44:00] fryfrog: ahaha
[21:45:00] fryfrog: you could spend the $30 on that thing, get your 100 points, submit a feature request and then put all your points to it
[21:48:00] LedHed: I'd just rather see time spent on more usefull things thats all. My opinion means nothing
[21:48:00] fryfrog: i agree :)
[21:49:00] laga: night
[21:49:00] LedHed: c-ya laga
[21:51:00] Esotericisms: hey I am getting some interesting data in my dmesg Beirdo
[21:51:00] Esotericisms: about my remote .. wish GreyFoxx was around ... :/
[21:52:00] rjune: GeckoFiend: rtsp?
[21:53:00] Beirdo: goooogle
[21:53:00] Beirdo: don't expect people to educate you when you can educate yourself
[21:56:00] LedHed: What is LxMSuite? I pay for TV listings and get to vote on the development of MythTV?
[21:56:00] rjune: meh
[21:56:00] rjune: LedHed: that's my understanding
[21:56:00] LedHed: Strange Concept
[21:57:00] rjune: why do you say that?
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[21:58:00] LedHed: just seems weird
[21:58:00] rjune: well, assuming the implementation is better than transgaming, it might not be so bad
[21:59:00] LedHed: I would have no problem paying for MythTV. Only I think the project would loose its ass in Support costs!
[22:00:00] ** LedHed "from me alone" **
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[22:03:00] kormoc: rjune, transgaming's implimentation works quite well overall.
[22:03:00] Beirdo: what's an implimentation?
[22:03:00] rjune: kormoc: not for me, nobody votes for the games I care about.
[22:04:00] rjune: Beirdo: google
[22:04:00] kormoc: LedHed, you put your 'points' towards a bounty system, if you want feature x, then when coder impliments X, they got money.
[22:04:00] rjune: Beirdo: don't expect people to educate you when you can educate yourself
[22:04:00] Beirdo: rjune: you missed the point
[22:04:00] kormoc: beirdo, implementation I mean...
[22:04:00] Beirdo: there we go :)
[22:04:00] kormoc: Beirdo, I never claimed to be good at spelling or english :)
[22:04:00] rjune: heh. yeah I did :-)
[22:05:00] LedHed: so I could put my Bounty towards Free Support and they will give me free support?
[22:05:00] kormoc: rjune, you're gonna hit the same "problem" with lxm too, it's the popular stuff that gets voted on, tis how the model is designed.
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[22:05:00] rjune: kormoc: yea
[22:05:00] kormoc: LedHed, maybe, not sure how that would work.
[22:05:00] stop:
[22:05:00] stop: que me mande un mensaje...
[22:06:00] rjune: kormoc: if the stuff I care about doesn't get fixed, then from my perspective, that implementation don't work
[22:06:00] LedHed: Wait, if its popular then why pay to be involved? Its gonna get developed anyway. Now I would pay for features that weren't so popular because those features may never get done otherwise...
[22:07:00] Beirdo: xris: warm up yer Spanish :)
[22:07:00] xris:
[22:07:00] stop: hola xris...
[22:07:00] xris: puedo traducir un poco.
[22:07:00] ** xris frowns.. no #mythtv-es **
[22:07:00] stop:
[22:08:00] LedHed: yo como tacos! pretty good eh?
[22:08:00] stop: hay un canal de mythtv-es?
[22:08:00] ** DarkBeer grabs his Cap 'N Crunch secret decoder ring **
[22:08:00] xris: stop: ah.. solo conozco algunos en sudamerica (brazil)
[22:08:00] LedHed: Failed spanish 1 3 times
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[22:08:00] xris: LedHed: that sucks
[22:08:00] mmead: hi
[22:08:00] mmead: anyone here built .18 frontend for the mac?
[22:09:00] stop: i'm sorry if i anoyed using spanish
[22:09:00] xris: stop: no se donde es el mejor lugar para buscar gente en mexico...
[22:09:00] xris: stop: I'm the only one here that I know of who speaks spanish.
[22:09:00] stop: de donde eres xris?
[22:09:00] xris: USA. I grew up in peru, though.
[22:09:00] stop: oh i see...
[22:09:00] Beirdo: Hehe.
[22:10:00] xris: very rusty spanish, but it works well enough.
[22:10:00] Beirdo: I really should learn...
[22:10:00] Beirdo: heh
[22:10:00] j-rod: mmead, under OS X or PPC Linux?
[22:10:00] stop: no rusty, pretty well....
[22:10:00] mmead: j-rod: OS X
[22:10:00] xris: Beirdo: yes, esp. if you're thinking of moving to PR.
[22:10:00] j-rod: there was a build fix for OS X that went into 0.18.1
[22:10:00] Beirdo: yeah yeah
[22:10:00] xris: stop: you haven't heard me speak.
[22:10:00] Beirdo: :)
[22:10:00] stop: hahahaha
[22:10:00] mmead: j-rod: aha!
[22:10:00] mmead: j-rod: is there a CVS tag for 18.1?
[22:10:00] j-rod: yup
[22:10:00] stop:
[22:11:00] j-rod: or just grab the tarball
[22:11:00] j-rod: tag is release-0-18–1
[22:11:00] mmead: j-rod: thanks – let me try it real quick
[22:11:00] j-rod: no
[22:11:00] j-rod: no prob
[22:11:00] xris: necesito practicar. (and my spelling sucks, since I haven't written in spanish since 6th grade)
[22:11:00] rjune: mmead: better question, has anybody built a smallish wireless frontend.
[22:11:00] rjune: say, from a zaurus
[22:11:00] j-rod: oy
[22:11:00] mmead: rjune: I have a SL-5500 and cannot see the thing having the guts to play a myth stream
[22:11:00] stop: oye dime tu tienes un sistema de Myth-tv ya funcionando?
[22:11:00] j-rod: I have a zaurus, somehow I doubt there's enough juice
[22:12:00] rjune: it was an example
[22:12:00] j-rod: (SL-5500 here too)
[22:12:00] rjune: the 5500 prolly not
[22:12:00] mmead: j-rod: will a .18.1 frontend coexist properly with a .18 backend?
[22:12:00] rjune: tha'ts a 200Mhz Xscale
[22:12:00] Beirdo: no
[22:12:00] Beirdo: heh
[22:12:00] rjune: the 5600 or 6000 might
[22:12:00] rjune: 5600 == 400Mhz Xscale, not sure about the 6000
[22:12:00] xris: stop: si, pero tal vez es mas facil obtener tiempos/programas en US.
[22:12:00] Beirdo: mmead: standard rule: upgrade all of myth together
[22:12:00] j-rod: mmead, you should upgrade the backend to 0.18.1 too
[22:12:00] darkfire: why would you need a 'wireless' frontend? if you have wireless network protocols...
[22:12:00] mmead: ouch
[22:13:00] mmead: j-rod: I believe I have lost the ./configure string for my backend
[22:13:00] rjune: darkfire: wireless is hardware, the frontend software doesn't care what the network layer is
[22:13:00] j-rod: 0.18 and 0.18.1 *might* work together though, since there were no proto changes
[22:13:00] mmead: j-rod: what about schema?
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[22:13:00] j-rod: no schema changes either
[22:13:00] darkfire: rjune, yeah, that's my point.
[22:13:00] darkfire: rjune mmead: better question, has anybody built a smallish wireless frontend
[22:13:00] mich43l: is anyone using ivtv 3.5h with pvr500 card?
[22:13:00] rjune: darkfire: yeah.
[22:13:00] ** Beirdo yawns **
[22:13:00] mmead: j-rod: oh, so maybe it will be ok :)
[22:13:00] xris: stop: tal vez buscar google, o los archivos de la lista de email... ojala hay algun forum para mythtv-es.
[22:14:00] stop:
[22:14:00] Beirdo: mmead: might be, I wouldn't guarantee it
[22:14:00] mmead: j-rod: anyway to get the config string out of a myth-config binary or somesuch?
[22:14:00] j-rod: It might be, but no complaining if it doesn't. :)
[22:14:00] mmead: Beirdo: right :/
[22:14:00] mmead: j-rod: mysqldump is my friend!!!
[22:14:00] darkfire: rjune, hrmm, i sense a miscommunication. i was wondering what you meant because there's no need for that
[22:14:00] j-rod: heh, yeah, good idea
[22:14:00] j-rod: not sure where to get the config string from
[22:14:00] j-rod: I almost always build rpms, so its in my spec file. :)
[22:14:00] rjune: darkfire: think end user device. they don't care what the front
[22:14:00] rjune: [01:34:48 PM] <Jen> http://www.sciencedaily.
[22:15:00] xris: stop: sabes si hay xmltv para mexico?
[22:15:00] rjune: dammit
[22:15:00] mich43l: does anyone know which ivtv is most stable for using with hauppauge pvr500?
[22:15:00] stop: xris no lo creo....
[22:15:00] j-rod: crap, xris, I still haven't sent you those spec file changes...
[22:15:00] rjune: darkfire: think integrated device.
[22:15:00] darkfire: rjune, oh, you mean specifically FOR mythfrontend, gotcah
[22:15:00] darkfire: gotcha
[22:15:00] xris: j-rod: should get them to axel so he can use them. heh. but feel free to email to me, too.
[22:15:00] rjune: darkfire: porting to zaurus would be ok too. but yeah
[22:15:00] darkfire: hrmm, wonder how hard that would be
[22:15:00] rjune: the 5500 would be able to do audio for sure
[22:16:00] darkfire: probably could do it with a tablet-type thing
[22:16:00] xris: stop: entonces no se que hacer. es posible usar mythfilldatabase "a mano" pero no se como exactamente.
[22:16:00] rjune: really the only bits a 5500 would have trouble with would be video, games and a phone
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[22:16:00] mmead: the 5500 is so friggin' unstable :(
[22:16:00] stop: xris el problema realmente es que no he podido hacer funcionar myth-tv....
[22:17:00] mmead: I cannot read for more than 1h with it without opie-reader crashing
[22:17:00] rjune: mmead: how so? I've not had problems with mine.
[22:17:00] mich43l: anyone?
[22:17:00] j-rod: okay, xris, just sent you the little snippet w/comments explaining what's going on...
[22:17:00] rjune: mmead: oh, oz is iunstable
[22:17:00] mmead: ok, the 5500 isn't unstable, the OZ release and apps are :)
[22:17:00] stop: sin embargo se que la tarjeta de video si funciona porque con tvtime, la he hacer funcionar
[22:17:00] mmead: rjune: what do you use?
[22:17:00] rjune: oz actually, but mostly for addressbook
[22:17:00] darkfire: mich43l, i use the 0.3.x branch for my pvr-350, had no stability problems once i got it configured
[22:17:00] mmead: rjune: ahh
[22:17:00] xris: stop: qual distro usas?
[22:17:00] mmead: rjune: I'm loathe to go dump money on a Palm PDA I will not use for anything but reading ebooks
[22:18:00] mich43l: k thanks
[22:18:00] mmead: rjune: but plucker is awesome
[22:18:00] rjune: mmead: understood
[22:18:00] xris: anyone here know of any spanish-speaking mythtv support communities?
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[22:18:00] darkfire: ...you?
[22:18:00] mmead: hehe
[22:18:00] rjune: mmead: I'm really wanting kitchensync to sync my egroupware server to my zaurus
[22:18:00] Esotericisms: hey j-rod you around?
[22:18:00] mmead: ok, here goes a stab at .18.1
[22:19:00] stop: xris lo probe primero con slackware y despues con ubuntu linux.
[22:19:00] mmead: cpu_accel.c
[22:19:00] mmead: rjune: that would be nice
[22:19:00] stop:
[22:19:00] mmead: cpu_accel.c appears to have built.
[22:19:00] rjune: mmead: yeah, I use egw with kontact already, if my Z can sync as well, that covers everything
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[22:19:00] mmead: hmm, nope, not yet
[22:19:00] xris:
[22:20:00] stop: yes i do undestand english, is the guide on some web? or he has a document?
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[22:20:00] mmead: rjune: I've switched to OS X at home except for myth backend that also serves to mirror my dedicated server, runs MPD, and such
[22:20:00] xris: stop: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php
[22:20:00] mmead: rjune: OS X syncs well with palm, not at all with zaurus
[22:21:00] stop: ok great checking it...
[22:21:00] ** Beirdo cues up the rest of the Santana CD **
[22:21:00] rjune: mmead: I use linux everywhere, so it's not a problem
[22:21:00] rjune: :-)
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[22:21:00] mmead: rjune: I try to avoid linux on the desktop – I end up fiddling too much/too often to get things working exactly the way I want
[22:21:00] rjune: mmead: meh, to each his own
[22:21:00] mmead: rjune: yep – linux for some reason just turns me into a tweak
[22:21:00] Bob-Laptop: Sounds like user error
[22:22:00] Beirdo: you must be a gentoo freak then, mmead  :)
[22:22:00] mmead: Bob-Laptop: I wouldn't be surprised.
[22:22:00] mmead: Beirdo: yeah, I ran gentoo for a long time – got sick of the compiles and switched to deb unstable
[22:23:00] rjune: mmead: use gnome that fixes those urges
[22:23:00] LedHed: If I have a mix of HDTV and NTSC TV's will HD Recordings play on a NTSC TV? (Will the fromtend Scale it)?
[22:23:00] j-rod: LedHed, yes
[22:24:00] LedHed: cool
[22:24:00] j-rod: worksforme
[22:24:00] mmead: anyone know when air2pc will be available again?
[22:24:00] xris: mmead: "soon"?
[22:25:00] xris: if you want one, preorder.
[22:25:00] mmead: xris: heh
[22:25:00] LedHed: is there a way to have the HDTV Capture card specifically assigned to a specific Frontend?
[22:25:00] ** xris needs a better antenna for his hdtv card **
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[22:25:00] xris: stupid nearby airport.
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[22:26:00] mmead: j-rod: .18.1 did not fix it :(
[22:26:00] mmead: flood
[22:26:00] mmead: cc -c -pipe -faltivec -I/Users/mmead/.osx-packager/build/include -w -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -no-cpp-precomp -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-inline-functions -fPIC -fno-common -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DPREFIX=\"/Users/mmead/.osx-packager/build\" -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -DQT_SHARED -DQT_ACCESSIBILITY_SUPPORT -I/Users/mmead/.osx-packager/build/mkspecs/default -I. -I../../../../../build/include -I../../../../..
[22:26:00] mmead: {standard input}:65:Parameter syntax error (parameter 1)
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[22:27:00] mmead: I'm not even sure how to figure out what parameter problem it is
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[22:27:00] mmead: if I turn off -pipe it complains about the /var/tmp file it's working on – but it's been removed by the time cc exits
[22:27:00] j-rod: I haven't actually tried building on OS X myself, so no clue
[22:27:00] mmead: j-rod: is there a developers channel somewhere?
[22:28:00] xris: mmead: #mythtv
[22:28:00] j-rod: I'd search the -dev mailing list first
[22:28:00] j-rod: but then what xris said
[22:28:00] mmead: j-rod: k
[22:28:00] xris: just be careful how/what you ask or you'll get a stern talking to.
[22:28:00] xris: (but what you want is probably on-topic)
[22:28:00] mmead: yeah
[22:29:00] mmead: I've just not done a ton of C development in the past few years
[22:29:00] mmead: if I can get some pointers to solve it I'd just submit a patch
[22:29:00] mmead: ahh
[22:29:00] mmead: someone with the same problem got no answer on the dev list
[22:29:00] GeckoFiend: not much C code in Myth
[22:29:00] mmead: GeckoFiend: right, it's asm in there
[22:30:00] GeckoFiend: heh not much asm either, mostly C++
[22:30:00] mmead: GeckoFiend: cpu_accel.c  ? asm
[22:30:00] GeckoFiend: oh that file heh
[22:32:00] xris: j-rod: we really need to get on axel's case again about setting up svn access on his build boxes for stuff like that spec.
[22:32:00] j-rod: I haven't been talking to Axel much lately (just busy), but I can start pressing again
[22:33:00] j-rod: Its been like over a year since he first started talking about getting some of us on his build system, so I don't have the greatest confidence of anything happening too fast...
[22:33:00] j-rod: :)
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[22:34:00] j-rod: Ubuntu Myth(TV)ology... Debian Myth(TV)ology...
[22:34:00] j-rod: mmead, well put over there on #mythtv. :)
[22:35:00] mmead: j-rod: why?
[22:35:00] j-rod: much better approach than some people take
[22:35:00] mmead: j-rod: oh, heh
[22:35:00] rjune: now I'm curious
[22:35:00] xris: j-rod: hence my pondering switching to ub.
[22:35:00] j-rod: yup
[22:35:00] mmead: j-rod: I telecommute for work, so online collaboration is a must.
[22:36:00] ** j-rod ponders a wholesale switch to knoppmyth... **
[22:36:00] mmead: j-rod: knoppmyth was horrible on my hardware when I tried it.
[22:36:00] j-rod: heh
[22:36:00] mmead: j-rod: video could not keep up
[22:36:00] j-rod: hrm
[22:36:00] xris: I've even pondered gentoo for mythtv.
[22:36:00] j-rod: I honestly haven't played with KM very much
[22:36:00] mmead: j-rod: on either an athlon xp 2100+ w/ati 9200 and also on dell latitude c600
[22:36:00] xris: but dealing with new hardware, etc and different package names seemed too much trouble even with ub.
[22:37:00] j-rod: it boots and works on an old P3–933 I had to play with, but crashed and burned when trying to actually watch anything
[22:37:00] mmead: j-rod: fresh deb-unstable installs work well for me, so long as the X server install has xv drivers for the particular cards
[22:37:00] j-rod: I've run a few debian myth boxes
[22:37:00] j-rod: definitely some differences to get used to
[22:38:00] j-rod: this is my main setup: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php
[22:39:00] mmead: I have tried to steer clear of all RH-derived distros.
[22:39:00] rjune: mmead: why>?
[22:39:00] j-rod: heh
[22:39:00] mmead: I just can't figure out the thought process behind how they air laid out or how their package management works
[22:40:00] mmead: they work for lots of people, though, so it could be just me!
[22:40:00] j-rod: was gonna say, works quite well for me. :)
[22:40:00] Bob-Laptop: and me
[22:40:00] j-rod: (been a RH user since '97)
[22:40:00] rjune: mmead: it's not bad
[22:40:00] rjune: and myself
[22:40:00] mmead: we're a RH partner at work, so I have to use them now for a lot of stuff
[22:40:00] xris: I actually like rpm/spec much better than what I've seen of deb's version of "spec"
[22:40:00] rjune: yeah.
[22:40:00] mmead: using RH 7.3 in vmware (under deb unstable) to mirror some production stuff for development
[22:40:00] j-rod: same difference between rpm and deb for me on the install side w/apt
[22:40:00] mmead: I've never used spec
[22:41:00] rjune: mmead: 7.3? oy
[22:41:00] mmead: I use apt-get pretty consistently
[22:41:00] mmead: rjune: yes, OLD
[22:41:00] j-rod: but building a deb is something I've never really looked at
[22:41:00] mmead: rjune: but FC3 will not run the RH products I need to run
[22:41:00] j-rod: building rpms is easy
[22:41:00] xris: mmead: spec is what defines what goes into an rpm
[22:41:00] mmead: xris: ahh
[22:41:00] rjune: mmead: but will RH WS?
[22:41:00] mmead: rjune: RHEL 7.3 will
[22:41:00] j-rod: All our stuff at work has been running on RH7.3 for ages
[22:41:00] xris: in deb, it's a bunch of individual files in a directory, and they're not necessarily build into the package (and *rarely* included upstream)
[22:41:00] rjune: mmead: no such beast
[22:41:00] j-rod: I'm slowly replacing it with RHEL3, nothing hasn't worked yet
[22:42:00] rjune: mmead: ther'es rhel3 and rhel4 and RH 7.3
[22:42:00] xris: j-rod: yeah, redhat definitely has the larger portion of business linux usage, at least in the US.
[22:42:00] mmead: rjune: RH 7.3 – valhalla
[22:42:00] rjune: mmead: have you tried RHEL4? it's a lot newer
[22:42:00] mmead: nope
[22:42:00] j-rod: and despite all their Linux bravado, Novell's numbers are in the toilet...
[22:42:00] mmead: I haven't personally tried to install CMS 6.1 on it, but I've been told it's a no go
[22:42:00] rjune: mmead: being a partner, I would expect they would want your stuff running on enterprise
[22:43:00] j-rod: EL4 lots of difference from RH73
[22:43:00] mmead: we're using AS3 and AS 2.1 for some stuff
[22:43:00] j-rod: EL3, notsomuch
[22:43:00] rjune: j-rod: el3 was based on rh7.2
[22:43:00] mmead: ahh
[22:43:00] rjune: el4 was based on fc4 IIRC
[22:43:00] rjune: gah, fc2
[22:43:00] j-rod: no, el3 was based on rh9
[22:43:00] j-rod: el2.1 was based on 7.2
[22:43:00] j-rod: el3 forked somewhere between the release of rh9 and fc1
[22:44:00] rjune: j-rod: that's entirely possible, it's been a while
[22:44:00] j-rod: el4 forked shortly after the fc3 release
[22:44:00] ** j-rod is on LOTS of RH lists **
[22:44:00] Bob-Laptop: el3 was rh9 el4 is FC3
[22:44:00] rjune: I'm only on fedora lists.
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[22:45:00] mmead: well, I've got too much actual work to get done than to test every version of RH to see what will work with the products we use – that's for the people that do production deploys :)
[22:45:00] mmead: is there a way to get gcc to dump the stdin that it's compiling as it does it?
[22:46:00] rjune: we're a novell partner, we're supposed to verify against their enterpise stuff. I would expect the same from rh
[22:46:00] rjune: mmead: what?
[22:46:00] j-rod: we took ages testing el3 before deploying it to prod
[22:46:00] j-rod: just got my first el4 box a bit ago
[22:46:00] j-rod: won't see prod use anytime soon though
[22:46:00] mmead: rjune: well RH just recently acquired these products and hasn't made a new release yet.
[22:46:00] rjune: mmead: ahh
[22:46:00] mmead: rjune: trying to figure out how to get gcc to spit out the stream of precompiled data it's trying to compile so I can debug this
[22:47:00] j-rod: Red Hat Directory Server due out shortly...
[22:47:00] rjune: yeah, that's cool
[22:47:00] mmead: j-rod: that's one of the ones we use :)
[22:47:00] rjune: we're all eDir
[22:47:00] mmead: I hear it's pretty nice.
[22:48:00] rjune: yeah it seems to be, when I get some extra cash, I'm gonna rebuild my fileserver at home using OES(eDir)
[22:48:00] rjune: wanna make it the primary mythtv backend too.
[22:48:00] mmead: aha
[22:48:00] mmead: cc -E
[22:49:00] rjune: mmead: cool
[22:50:00] j-rod: bbiab...
[22:54:00] johnboy12358: when i set the brightness and contrast settings with the g button in myth, how can I make it remember them and apply them after a shutdown and restart?
[22:57:00] opello: use 'f' and enable xv support (i think in the frontend setup)
[22:58:00] mmead: AHA!
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[23:01:00] johnboy12358: opello: ok i'll try that, does that keystroke alone enable global settings?
[23:01:00] opello: it's the recording prefs vs. the channel prefs, it's what someone told me to use when i started, and i haven't done much research on it
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[23:03:00] johnboy12358: also, is there a keystroke that will bring up the channel guide?
[23:03:00] johnboy12358: i found M, but that only brings up the menu on the upper left of the screen
[23:05:00] GeckoFiend: johnboy12358 more keys.txt
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[23:07:00] johnboy12358: looked in keys, all i can see if M
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[23:12:00] opello: johnboy12358: dunno, i just hit 'm' and 'enter'
[23:13:00] Esotericisms: anyone using an ati or niveus remote in here with their system? (I know GreyFoxx does, but he is not around)
[23:14:00] johnboy12358: i can live with that i suppose, but i really need to get it to save the brightness settings and remember them (its remembering right now, but not applying them until i press g)
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[23:26:00] mmead: j-rod: I got it fixed.
[23:26:00] Esotericisms: I am trying to get lirc removed completely ... but it is still loading when the system starts ( at least according to dmesg )
[23:26:00] Esotericisms: can anyone help?
[23:27:00] mmead: Esotericisms: what type of system?
[23:27:00] Esotericisms: fc3
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[23:28:00] mmead: Esotericisms: I don't know much about how to get the modules loading/unloading in FC – in /etc there is probably some file that lists it
[23:28:00] Esotericisms: yeah modprobe.conf
[23:28:00] Esotericisms: but they aren't in there any more
[23:29:00] Esotericisms: how do I unload a module?
[23:29:00] Beirdo:
[23:29:00] mmead: Esotericisms: rmmod
[23:29:00] Beirdo: rjrj
[23:29:00] mmead: Esotericisms: rmmod <module name>
[23:29:00] Beirdo: WTF?
[23:29:00] Esotericisms: that is what I thought ...
[23:29:00] Beirdo:
[23:30:00] Beirdo:
[23:30:00] Esotericisms: says that the module doesn't exist
[23:30:00] Beirdo: rmmod
[23:30:00] mmead: Esotericisms: you may need to run update-modules or something similar
[23:30:00] Beirdo: stupid xchat :)
[23:30:00] Esotericisms: lol
[23:30:00] mmead: Esotericisms: does it show in lsmod?
[23:31:00] Esotericisms: just sec
[23:31:00] Esotericisms: yeah lirc_atiusb and lirc_dev
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[23:31:00] Esotericisms: do I need to get rid of them they are conflicting with a kernel module I have
[23:31:00] mmead: Esotericisms: unknown
[23:32:00] mmead: Esotericisms: what kernel module?
[23:32:00] Esotericisms: ati_remote.c (custom module for using my new remote
[23:33:00] johnboy12358: why is it that my livetv buffer is set to 14gb in mythtv-setup and in myhtfrontend it says its only 8.5? (information center>system status)
[23:35:00] mmead: Esotericisms: so can you nod to rmmod lirc_atiusb lirc_dev ?
[23:36:00] Esotericisms: will that remove them permanently
[23:36:00] mmead: Esotericisms: no
[23:36:00] mmead: Esotericisms: that will just removed them for the moment
[23:36:00] Esotericisms: how do I remove them permanently?
[23:36:00] mmead: Esotericisms: if they are loading on boot they will still load on boot after that call
[23:36:00] mmead: Esotericisms: do you have something like update-modules or somesuch?
[23:36:00] mmead: Esotericisms: remove them from modules.conf and then run it
[23:37:00] Esotericisms: mmead, they are not in modules.conf
[23:37:00] Esotericisms: j-rod, you around?
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[23:38:00] mmead: Esotericisms: under debian, you must run update-modules after editing modules.conf
[23:38:00] mmead: Esotericisms: is FC3 the same awy?
[23:38:00] mmead: s/awy/way/
[23:38:00] Esotericisms: I don't think so ...
[23:38:00] Esotericisms: not sure ... I am trying to find out
[23:39:00] mich43l: can anyone help pls, i have set up my freq's right for uk channels but no matter what i set them to i still get just fuzz, i have a pvr500 and ivtv 0.3.2s??
[23:41:00] mich43l: also using knoppmyth
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[23:47:00] j-rod: mmead, cool re: working build now
[23:47:00] j-rod: no update-modules on FC
[23:47:00] j-rod: edit modprobe.conf and depmod -ae
[23:47:00] j-rod: Eso, not for long. :)
[23:48:00] j-rod: back to the server room I go...
[23:48:00] Esotericisms: ok, I think I might have figured out what is wrong ...
[23:48:00] Esotericisms: lirc_atiusb conflicts with ati_remote.c
[23:48:00] Esotericisms: just trying to work it all out
[23:48:00] j-rod: yup
[23:48:00] GreyFoxx: well, yeah it would
[23:48:00] Esotericisms: GreyFoxx!!!!
[23:48:00] j-rod: shouldn't have two modules loading trying to control the same device
[23:48:00] Esotericisms: would that cause this ...
[23:49:00] Esotericisms: '/root/atiremote/remote.c: Weird data, len=5 20 ee 11 d3 2c 00 ...'
[23:49:00] Esotericisms: the mouse works
[23:49:00] Esotericisms: just none of the buttons :/
[23:49:00] Esotericisms: damn I still get those errors from 'dmesg'
[23:49:00] Esotericisms: I did a depmod -ae
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[23:50:00] Esotericisms: I guess I can restart ... GreyFoxx, what do you think?
[23:52:00] GreyFoxx: Esotericisms: You have a niveus remote right
[23:52:00] Esotericisms: yeah
[23:52:00] Esotericisms: I got the module compiled and installed
[23:52:00] GreyFoxx: and when you load the module are you passing the parameter lolatype=1  ?
[23:52:00] Esotericisms: because the mouse works on the remote
[23:52:00] Esotericisms: not that I know of ..
[23:52:00] GreyFoxx: that is likely your problem
[23:52:00] Esotericisms: what does your modules.conf look like?
[23:53:00] GreyFoxx: seen the niveus and the lola remotes look identical from a device id perspective, so you have to tell it what type of "lola" variant it is
[23:53:00] Esotericisms: I am using a udev rule (suggested by someone in fedora) to load the module automatically
[23:53:00] Esotericisms: how are you loading the module?
[23:53:00] GreyFoxx: I have a line in my rc.local file that calls modprobe
[23:54:00] GreyFoxx: modprobe ati_remote lolatype=1
[23:54:00] Esotericisms: hrm ..
[23:55:00] GreyFoxx: just add "alias ati_remote lolatype=1" to your modules.conf. I think that should be the proper syntax
[23:55:00] Esotericisms: http://pastebin.ca/12744
[23:55:00] Esotericisms: that is what happends when I run modprobe ati_remote lolatype=1
[23:56:00] GreyFoxx: ummm
[23:56:00] GreyFoxx: type this
[23:57:00] Esotericisms: k
[23:57:00] GreyFoxx: modinfo ati_remote
[23:57:00] GreyFoxx: and update that pastebin with the output
[23:58:00] Esotericisms: http://pastebin.ca/12745
[23:58:00] GreyFoxx: That is not my version of the ati_remote module :)
[23:59:00] Esotericisms: yeah I just noticed ..
[23:59:00] Esotericisms: just second

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