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Wednesday, May 25th, 2005, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:00] Beirdo: no
[00:00:00] Beirdo: to myself
[00:00:00] Beirdo: heh
[00:00:00] Beirdo: I keep forgetting to do it
[00:00:00] sunilonln2: ok
[00:01:00] Beirdo: although, if the shoe fits...
[00:01:00] sunilonln2: haha
[00:02:00] sunilonln2: i have to get the system working properly before i worry about commercial detection
[00:02:00] sunilonln2: my hope is that this card will solve some of my problems
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[00:21:00] fryfrog: anyone happen to have one of those crappy comcast hd pvrs?
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[00:31:00] sunilonln: is there an easy way to check the X version?
[00:31:00] sunilonln: the ati-provided script isn't cooperating with me
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[00:33:00] j-rod: X -version
[00:33:00] sunilonln: ok
[00:37:00] fryfrog: try "X -version"?
[00:37:00] fryfrog: bah
[00:38:00] fryfrog: i SWEAR "19:33 <+j-rod> X -version" wasn't there when i typed that :)
[00:40:00] sunilonln: hmm.. i guess i need to downgrade xorg to install fglrx
[00:41:00] j-rod: another reason why ATI sucks....
[00:41:00] kormoc: you needed other reasons?
[00:42:00] shibz: haha i hate ati, never buying from them again
[00:43:00] j-rod: kormoc, I don't. :)
[00:44:00] fryfrog: you sure you are using latest drivers, though i don't use ati for linux now... they were not TOO far behind nvidia
[00:44:00] kormoc: :P
[00:44:00] shibz: i can't use my all-in-wonder's tuner in linux, therefore ATI sucks
[00:44:00] shibz: if it doesn't have linux support it sucks
[00:45:00] kormoc: wow, lots o things suck
[00:45:00] shibz: yea, i know
[00:45:00] Beirdo: xorg sucks anyways
[00:47:00] Beirdo: interesting
[00:47:00] Beirdo: you can tell this negative got a bit bent
[00:47:00] Beirdo: that sucks
[00:49:00] Beirdo: there's one Cadfael gone
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[00:51:00] shibz: hmmm, anyone know what SVN is?
[00:51:00] kool: can anyone help me with ivtv install? I have a compile error.
[00:51:00] kormoc: svn is SubVersioN usually
[00:51:00] kool: i get "/bin/sh: scripts/genksyms/genksyms: No such file or directory
[00:51:00] kool: "
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[00:57:00] Beirdo: hmm
[00:57:00] Beirdo: these pictures suck a bit
[00:58:00] Beirdo: either that or I'm just not focused right on the scanner
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[01:00:00] gnarface: FUCK SBC
[01:00:00] gnarface: those bastards.
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[01:07:00] Beirdo: yeah, whatever
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[01:33:00] defy: can someone remind me where I can update my zap2it account ?
[01:34:00] rpete: labs.zap2it.com
[01:34:00] defy: cool thanks, and do you know what table needs updating if I need to enter a new user/pass into the db?
[01:34:00] Beirdo: try reading the email they send you
[01:35:00] Beirdo: videosources
[01:35:00] defy: they never send me anything
[01:35:00] Beirdo: then you gave them a bad email
[01:35:00] defy: I just updated my account, so i wont have to fix mysql, but my email address is valid in their system
[01:35:00] Beirdo: they email it out 7 days before it expires
[01:35:00] defy: they are probably hitting my spam filters
[01:36:00] Beirdo: then fix your damn spam filters
[01:36:00] defy: my DAMN spam filters? lol
[01:36:00] defy: its not a big deal
[01:36:00] Beirdo: you're blaming them for what is surely not their fault
[01:36:00] defy: umm
[01:36:00] defy: am I?
[01:37:00] defy: show me where i BLAMED anybody?
[01:37:00] ** defy waits.. **
[01:37:00] rpete: best to just nod your head, Beirdo lives for these confrontations
[01:37:00] fryfrog: we all know you blame them
[01:37:00] fryfrog: cause beirdo never over reacts :)
[01:37:00] defy: yea, never at all
[01:37:00] fryfrog: there are only 3 things you can count on: beirdo, death and taxes :)
[01:39:00] defy: heh, they have the correct address, it wasnt cought by spam filter, and haven't sent me a expirey email in over 8 months
[01:39:00] defy: so now I do blame them ;)
[01:40:00] Beirdo: <defy> they never send me anything
[01:40:00] Tr0gd0r: anyone know if the hauppage Nexus works with digital cable TV?
[01:41:00] Beirdo: they've always sent emails to every other user I know of
[01:41:00] defy: thats nice
[01:46:00] defy: sweet, all working now, thanks guys
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[01:47:00] defy: hrmm, another question...probably gets asked a lot but is there a "encode when recording is complete" function in mythtv? I haven't touched my remote mythtv box in a while, trying to get it updated a bit
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[01:57:00] smeagel: Hi — I'm trying to set up audio using line-in in ivtv, I did "ivtvctl -q 1" where 1 corresponds to the line-in input, it seems to switch fine, but no audio record
[01:58:00] smeagel: line-in works when I turn its volume up in my audio mixer
[01:58:00] smeagel: any idea's?
[01:58:00] smeagel: to record right now i'm simply doing "cat /dev/video > temp.mpg"
[01:59:00] Beirdo: ummm
[02:00:00] Beirdo: you are supposed to plug the line in into the capture card, not the sound card
[02:00:00] smeagel: ...argh
[02:00:00] smeagel: i'm dumb
[02:00:00] Beirdo: the PVR-x50 cards capture the audio directly
[02:00:00] smeagel: ;)
[02:00:00] smeagel: thx
[02:00:00] Beirdo: no prob
[02:01:00] smeagel: i didn't even see the line in
[02:01:00] smeagel: i'm used to using ati's AIW's
[02:01:00] smeagel: or actually it might have been on the card there too....i forget
[02:01:00] smeagel: works perfectly, of course, thx again
[02:03:00] Beirdo: no prob
[02:03:00] gnarface: ok god damnit
[02:03:00] gnarface: 1) sbc needs to die
[02:03:00] Beirdo: take it easy gnarface
[02:04:00] gnarface: 2) who is Ulrich Thatcher and where can i find him?
[02:04:00] Beirdo: how the hell should we know?
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[02:04:00] gnarface: i'll ask everyone i encounter until someone does.
[02:05:00] fryfrog: holey cow, thats the nick name i gave my little willie!
[02:05:00] fryfrog: talk about a small world
[02:05:00] Beirdo: you sure it's not you, gnarface?
[02:05:00] gnarface: yes. its not me
[02:05:00] gnarface: and its not fryfrog's little willie either
[02:05:00] gnarface: unless his little willie wrote an lirc patch in october last year and then abandoned it
[02:06:00] gnarface: wait wait
[02:06:00] gnarface: David Nevel
[02:06:00] gnarface: he'll do too
[02:07:00] gnarface: if i can find him or this Ulrich guy
[02:07:00] gnarface: i can make my usb-uirt work
[02:07:00] fryfrog: does anyone know if most cable tv boxes have more than 1 firewire port?
[02:08:00] fryfrog: i just got this comcast hd pvr with 2 tuners, and it also has 2 firewire ports
[02:08:00] gnarface: here's my guess
[02:08:00] gnarface: most cable boxes have 0 ports
[02:08:00] fryfrog: it'd be quite... grooovy if each port was for a tuner
[02:08:00] mchou: fryfrog: is the comcast pvr box any good?
[02:08:00] fryfrog: only had it for like 5 hours
[02:08:00] gnarface: Beirdo: do you work for SBC?
[02:09:00] Beirdo: no
[02:09:00] gnarface: they're on my list
[02:09:00] Beirdo: I'm sure you're on their list too
[02:09:00] fryfrog: so far my impression is borderline suck
[02:09:00] mchou: fryfrog: wouldnt urprise me if each port corresponded to one tuner......
[02:09:00] gnarface: yea. time for vigilante justice.
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[02:11:00] fryfrog: from what i can gather, even though it has 2 tuners it can only record one show at once
[02:11:00] fryfrog: but you can atleast watch 1 show and record another
[02:11:00] fryfrog: though its VERY un-intuitive how you do it
[02:11:00] mchou: fryfrog: thst's so comcast wouldn't have to support fools who say I wanna watch livetv :)
[02:12:00] Beirdo: comcast sucks
[02:12:00] gnarface: i hate them too
[02:12:00] fryfrog: also, i can't figure out if its ALWAYS recording what you are watching or just sometimes
[02:12:00] gnarface: they're the only isp that's worse than sbc
[02:12:00] gnarface: not that i use either anym0ore
[02:12:00] Beirdo: gnarface: not even close
[02:12:00] mchou: gnarface: huh???
[02:12:00] Beirdo: hehe
[02:12:00] Beirdo: AOL is far worse
[02:12:00] gnarface: wait wait
[02:13:00] Beirdo: AOhell
[02:13:00] gnarface: don't bring up that name
[02:13:00] gnarface: don't even say it
[02:13:00] Beirdo: AOL AOL AOL
[02:13:00] gnarface: you can't say they're worse
[02:13:00] Beirdo: hehe
[02:13:00] fryfrog: and the crappiest thing is that if you are watching a show that is current recording... you can FF and RW fine... but not pause!
[02:13:00] fryfrog: wtf?
[02:13:00] gnarface: because even if they are, you shouldn't have even mentioned them
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[02:13:00] fryfrog: AOL: You're so easy to use, no wonder we're #1!
[02:13:00] gnarface: AAARGGGH!
[02:13:00] gnarface: shut up shut up shut up
[02:13:00] Beirdo: so easy to scam...
[02:13:00] gnarface: i must not believe in the existance of AOL
[02:13:00] Beirdo: bah
[02:14:00] ** gnarface curls into the fetal position, gibbering to himself. **
[02:14:00] Beirdo: so quit bitching about SBC or we'll get you transferred to AOL
[02:14:00] mchou: lol
[02:15:00] gnarface: i just want a clean dry pair with no noise run to the CORRECT side of my house. is that so much to ask?
[02:15:00] gnarface: are they fucking with me just because i'm a speakeasy customer?
[02:15:00] gnarface: or is it because i don't use their phone service even once dispite the fact i pay for it?
[02:15:00] Beirdo: it's because of your attitude and their incompetence
[02:15:00] Beirdo: :)
[02:16:00] gnarface: damnit. i was hoping it was a fixable issue.
[02:16:00] gnarface: so anyone wanna help me apply a patch to usb-uirt manually?
[02:16:00] gnarface: er, to lirc manually, rather?
[02:16:00] mchou: damn, I think "House" finale is today.....
[02:17:00] mchou: Hey Beirdo, you still have air2pc on order?
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[02:21:00] jemarcks_: mchou, howdy
[02:21:00] mchou: hey jemarcks_
[02:22:00] jemarcks_: 'sup?
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[02:22:00] mchou: hmm, I looking for someone who has pvr150 but not "type 50" tuner......
[02:23:00] sunilonln: i have pvr150
[02:23:00] sunilonln: i can't remember my tuner type
[02:23:00] sunilonln: 1 sec
[02:23:00] jemarcks_: tuner: type set to 39 (LG NTSC (newer TAPC series))
[02:23:00] fryfrog: why not type 50?
[02:23:00] mchou: cause I think that tuner has problems.....
[02:24:00] fryfrog: i think i have a pvr250 with a type 50 tuner
[02:24:00] fryfrog: and they all work fine
[02:24:00] jemarcks_: mchou, i have a type 39
[02:24:00] fryfrog: though obviously it could still be a pvr150+tuner50 issue
[02:24:00] mchou: jemarcks_: hmm, you get channel 2 ok on yours (via cable?)
[02:25:00] jemarcks_: mchou, yep, KTBC on time warner digital cable
[02:25:00] mchou: hmm.....
[02:25:00] fryfrog: anyway to get tuner version w/o re-modprobing?
[02:25:00] mchou: I need someone local :)
[02:25:00] jemarcks_: ivtv: Tuner Type 39, Tuner formats 0x00001000, Radio: yes, Model 0x008d1612, Revision 0x00000000
[02:25:00] mchou: fryfrog: yeah, look in you logs :)
[02:25:00] mchou: your*
[02:25:00] fryfrog: oh yeah duh
[02:26:00] fryfrog: dmesg isn't the only place :)
[02:26:00] sunilonln: wow man.. installing this ati driver is painful
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[02:26:00] Beirdo: mchou: yeah, in theory
[02:26:00] mchou: my channel 2 is pretty fubar. Unwatchable w/tuner 50.
[02:26:00] jemarcks_: hmmm
[02:27:00] jemarcks_: my first pvr150 was a type 50
[02:27:00] jemarcks_: but i had so many problems then nothing worked
[02:27:00] fryfrog: damn, not in any logs
[02:27:00] mchou: jemarcks_: you the one who got yours at frys?
[02:27:00] jemarcks_: mchou, is it set to tuner0?
[02:27:00] jemarcks_: mchou, yes.
[02:28:00] mchou: jemarcks_: you in Los Gatos, no?
[02:28:00] jemarcks_: mchou, i returned it and got a new one. (type 39)
[02:28:00] jemarcks_: mchou, austin TX
[02:28:00] mchou: lol.
[02:28:00] jemarcks_: :D
[02:28:00] mchou: some other dude I was talking to in Los Gatos did the same thing as you.....
[02:28:00] jemarcks_: mine is set to tuner0. i never could get svideo input to work
[02:29:00] jemarcks_: I am runing ivtvc 3.4a
[02:29:00] mchou: bah, svid works just fine on mine.
[02:29:00] jemarcks_: grrrr
[02:29:00] jemarcks_: oh well.. tuner0 doesnt need a channel changer script heh
[02:29:00] fryfrog: mchou: the only nice thing about the comcast box so far is that it was just a plug in and its going thing :)
[02:30:00] jemarcks_: I have the Scientific Atlanta box from timewarner.
[02:30:00] mchou: fryfrog: heh, not what I heard. FW upgrades :)
[02:30:00] fryfrog: musta done that all in house, or it happened before i started using it
[02:31:00] jemarcks_: who has the coolest DVD burner GUI for myth?
[02:31:00] mchou: fryfrog: Daylight/standard time fubars too :)
[02:31:00] fryfrog: wouldn't surprize me
[02:31:00] fryfrog: comcast missed or screwed up FIVE appointments to install HD
[02:31:00] jemarcks_: I have a command line script that only burns one .nuv to the dvd. i need to be able to pic multiples.
[02:31:00] fryfrog: this was their last chance before i just said fuck em and went with directv
[02:31:00] mchou: fryfrog: lol. I would have sued comcast.
[02:32:00] mchou: five days of work missed.....
[02:32:00] fryfrog: they must all be on crack
[02:32:00] fryfrog: the only one they showed up for, they came 2 days early
[02:32:00] fryfrog: and only installed a cable modem, but told comcast they did the HD too
[02:33:00] mchou: I think directtv would have been better deal.....
[02:33:00] fryfrog: and i was even like "you gonna do the HD?" and he was like "nah"
[02:33:00] fryfrog: well, directv + hdtivo is $700
[02:33:00] fryfrog: comcast gave us the pvr for free due to screwing up so bad
[02:33:00] fryfrog: though i have no idea how much it costs / month
[02:33:00] mchou: lol.
[02:33:00] mchou: it's like <$10/mo.
[02:34:00] fryfrog: for PVR?
[02:34:00] mchou: yup.
[02:34:00] jemarcks_: geezzz
[02:34:00] fryfrog: damn, a cable box is only like $5/mo
[02:34:00] mchou: they got you on the cheap :)
[02:34:00] fryfrog: yeah, they really did :/
[02:34:00] fryfrog: i still have to call and raise hell though
[02:34:00] fryfrog: they FUCKED Up the billing like nobodys buisness
[02:34:00] fryfrog: charged us for like 3 or 4 installs :/
[02:34:00] fryfrog: also, i've already returned the cable modem
[02:35:00] mchou: hehe, doesnt surprise me at all.
[02:35:00] fryfrog: 2x 4 hour outages in the first 3 days!
[02:35:00] fryfrog: i was like screw this, i'll stick to dsl
[02:35:00] jemarcks_: stupid techs
[02:35:00] mchou: fryfrog: where was this?
[02:35:00] fryfrog: atlanta, ga
[02:35:00] mchou: hehe. stupid comcast.
[02:35:00] fryfrog: i ditched comcast inet when dsl came out here like 1–2 years ago
[02:35:00] mchou: 4 hr outtages
[02:35:00] fryfrog: i'd hoped they'd fixed their shit cause the cable was MUCH faster
[02:36:00] jemarcks_: yeah.. comcast sux even worse in Amarillo tx LOL
[02:36:00] mchou: comcast does a better job than SBC in SF Bay area.
[02:36:00] jemarcks_: amazing
[02:36:00] mchou: as far as inet is concerned
[02:36:00] jemarcks_: SF is a cool place
[02:36:00] jemarcks_: just to expensive to live
[02:37:00] mchou: in fact comcast is upgrading the cable plant here too.
[02:37:00] mchou: ok, bbl
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[02:43:00] dhofstra_: ok, so I just setup another frontend here, and I get the 'using SUID root would give you realtime priority' message; I have done the chmod a+s thing, and it doesnt seem to do anything; if I run sudo mythfrontend, I get realtime priority, but I have to enter a password. any thoughts?
[02:44:00] monkeyBox: mythfrontend keeps trying to use DirectFB for video output, how do I just get it to use X?
[02:45:00] adante: did you use gentoo?
[02:45:00] adante: uh, *do*
[02:45:00] monkeyBox: adante: yep
[02:46:00] adante: did you emerge it with the directfb USE flag?
[02:46:00] monkeyBox: adante, it looks like I did, yes.. Is there a way to disable directfb without recompiling?
[02:47:00] fryfrog: monkeyBox: probably not, but if you emerged ccache in the past it'll only take a few sec to recompile
[02:47:00] EricAnderson: stupid index.php/page crap
[02:47:00] fryfrog: monkeyBox: also, if you haven't already i would "emerge ccache" :)
[02:47:00] EricAnderson: oops, wrong window
[02:47:00] monkeyBox: fryfrog: ccache? never heard of it :-P
[02:47:00] fryfrog: dhofstra_: what if you just do "chmod +s `which mythfrontend`"
[02:48:00] dhofstra_: lemme try.. thanks (I'm desperate)
[02:49:00] dhofstra_: fryfrog: no, doesnt change anything.. still not getting realtime priority
[02:50:00] fryfrog: can you "ls -al `which mythfrontend`"?
[02:50:00] fryfrog: is it owned by root?
[02:50:00] monkeyBox: ok, guess I'll recompile. fryfrog: thanks for the tip on ccache. I can't beleive I haven't heard of it yet :-P
[02:50:00] fryfrog: monkeyBox: you weren't being sarcastic?
[02:51:00] dhofstra_: fryfrog -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 5823307 2005-04–19 19:39 /usr/bin/mythfrontend
[02:51:00] monkeyBox: fryfrog: no, I wasn't being sarcastic
[02:51:00] ** monkeyBox hurridly installs ccache on all his gentoo boxen **
[02:51:00] fryfrog: monkeyBox: ah, then np and don't forget to set your cache size :)
[02:51:00] fryfrog: it makes re-compiling much nicer
[02:51:00] monkeyBox: I can imagine...
[02:51:00] fryfrog: and portage will use it totally transparently, no need to change anything
[02:52:00] fryfrog: if you have a lot of gentoo boxes (or linux boxes) distcc might also be worth a look at
[02:52:00] dhofstra_: I wouldnt mind launching mythfrontend as sudo from a script, but I would like NOT to have to enter a password to do it..
[02:52:00] fryfrog: thats really weird that the +s isn't working for you dhof
[02:53:00] dhofstra_: yeah, maybe I should see if there is some way to allow this one app not to require a password for sudo
[02:54:00] fryfrog: i would try to figure out why +s isn't working
[02:54:00] dhofstra_: yeah. well this time I installed via rpm I usually build it myself
[02:55:00] dhofstra_: dont know if that has anything to do with it
[02:55:00] fryfrog: can you run ifconfig?
[02:55:00] fryfrog: as the user i mean?
[02:55:00] fryfrog: (not root)
[02:55:00] dhofstra_: nope
[02:55:00] fryfrog: try giving it +s
[02:55:00] fryfrog: see if you can then run it?
[02:56:00] fryfrog: maybe for some reason suid bit isn't working
[02:56:00] fryfrog: are you using FC3 maybe?
[02:56:00] fryfrog: SELinux?
[02:56:00] gnarface: http://www.somafm.com/
[02:56:00] dhofstra_: command not found : suse 9.3
[02:56:00] fryfrog: oh, "ifconfig" just isn't found?
[02:56:00] gnarface: su -
[02:56:00] gnarface: /sbin/ifconfig
[02:57:00] dhofstra_: fryfrog: if I type the path, it works as a user
[02:57:00] fryfrog: ah, nm
[02:57:00] fryfrog: any one know how to test suidbit?
[02:57:00] gnarface: no idea
[02:57:00] gnarface: unless its on group
[02:57:00] gnarface: if its on group
[02:57:00] fryfrog: my only suggestion is to install showeq and try running it :)
[02:57:00] dhofstra_: heh, I'll look that up
[02:58:00] gnarface: then files in that directory should keep same default group
[02:58:00] fryfrog: then give it suidbit and try running it :/
[02:58:00] fryfrog: its the ONLY app i know of that uses suid cause it has to use libpcap
[02:58:00] fryfrog: oh, maybe you could try tcpdump?
[02:58:00] fryfrog: i think that needs root for libpcap
[02:59:00] dhofstra_: not familiar with any of those.. just for kicks.... can I try -s on the ifconfig to set it back?
[02:59:00] dhofstra_: so I can try that command as a regular user?
[02:59:00] fryfrog: dhofstra_: oh, umm sure
[03:00:00] fryfrog: dhofstra_: i don't know if ifconfig does anything special with the suid bit
[03:00:00] dhofstra_: ahh
[03:00:00] fryfrog: tcpdump is just a packet analyzer, pretty small package
[03:01:00] dhofstra_: its already installe
[03:01:00] dhofstra_: installed
[03:02:00] dhofstra_: oh, so try running tcpdump as a normal user /me thinks that is what you are saying
[03:02:00] fryfrog: ah, yeah
[03:03:00] fryfrog: if it doesn't work, then try with +s and see if it does or doesn't
[03:03:00] fryfrog: i'm not sure what it'll say
[03:03:00] dhofstra_: socket not permitted as regular user.. trying +s
[03:03:00] fryfrog: k
[03:03:00] dhofstra_: yeah, after +s it lets me run it
[03:04:00] fryfrog: well, at least you now know that +s works :/
[03:04:00] dhofstra_: thanks.
[03:04:00] fryfrog: wonder whats wrong with the myth :/
[03:05:00] fryfrog: what does "ls -al `which tcpdump`" result?
[03:05:00] fryfrog: does it look simliar to ls -al `which mythfrontend`"?
[03:06:00] dhofstra_: -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 392292 2005-03–19 16:10 /usr/sbin/tcpdump looking at mythfrontend
[03:06:00] dhofstra_: perms look the same for both
[03:06:00] fryfrog: oh well, i'm spent! :)
[03:06:00] dhofstra_: -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 5823307 2005-04–19 19:39 /usr/bin/mythfrontend
[03:06:00] dhofstra_: thanks for your help fryfrog, I appreciate it
[03:06:00] Esotericisms: in the recording file name scheme what is the first four numbers mean?
[03:07:00] Agrajag-: channel id
[03:07:00] Esotericisms: ah ok
[03:07:00] ** dhofstra_ goes to check my other box to see if it works on another version of suse **
[03:07:00] Esotericisms: thanks
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[03:08:00] Esotericisms: somehow a couple files don't exist that exist in my mysql database so it won't delete the entry from myth
[03:08:00] Agrajag-: what version of myth are you using?
[03:08:00] Esotericisms: 0.18
[03:08:00] Agrajag-: if you're using .18, they should be greyed out, and you should be able to delete them
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[03:09:00] Esotericisms: nah I look at the mythbackend logs and it says error deleting file doesn't exist
[03:09:00] Esotericisms: not sure what is going on ... if it was a connection to the mysql server I won't have been able to schedule and recordings today
[03:11:00] gratuit: I have a frontend/backend running on one computer and working well, but I'm trying to set up a frontend on another computer, first off, can I use a newer version of myth on the frontend, and secondly, I keep getting errors like Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.1.25' (111) how do I make the database on the backend open? nmap shows ports 6543 and 6544 open, should there be another port open?
[03:11:00] Agrajag-: no you can't use a newer version of myth on the frontend
[03:12:00] Agrajag-: gratuit: run mysql from the command line to try and connect and see what it says
[03:12:00] Agrajag-: as in mysql -umythtv -p mythconverg -h192.168.1.25
[03:12:00] gratuit: Agrajag-: what port should I try to connect on?
[03:12:00] Agrajag-: default
[03:12:00] Agrajag-: (unless you've changed it)
[03:13:00] gratuit: ERROR 2003: Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.1.25' (111)
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[03:14:00] fryfrog: gratuit: your mythtv user is probably only allowed to connect from localhost
[03:14:00] Agrajag-: fix your mysql config to listen on the network
[03:14:00] Agrajag-: (remove skip-networking i think it is..)
[03:14:00] fryfrog: gratuit: or what Agrajag- said :)
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[03:14:00] Agrajag-: mysql runs on 3306 from memory
[03:14:00] shibz: wow mythtv is taking forever to compile on my xbox, its been going for 8 hours now.
[03:14:00] fryfrog: ahhaha
[03:14:00] gratuit: Agrajag-: where would I find that?
[03:14:00] fryfrog: damn
[03:15:00] fryfrog: probably in /etc/my.cnf or maybe /etc/mysql/my.conf?
[03:15:00] fryfrog: conf
[03:15:00] fryfrog: cak, cnf
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[03:15:00] Agrajag-: ahah 8 hours compile
[03:15:00] Esotericisms: the file doesn't exist ... here is the error from the backend ...
[03:15:00] shibz: aah i know what your problem is
[03:15:00] Esotericisms: 2005-05–24 22:15:02.889 ERROR when trying to delete file: /video/recordings/1006_20050521223200_20050522003000.nuv. File doesn't exist. Database metadata will not be removed.
[03:15:00] shibz: with the mysql server
[03:15:00] braniff: how do i convert avi to vcd ??
[03:15:00] Agrajag-: i compile my myth stuff on my fastest box and just do 'make install' over nfs from the slow ones
[03:15:00] fryfrog: braniff: with nuv-export :)
[03:15:00] Agrajag-: braniff: transcode
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[03:16:00] shibz: its not listening for connections from outside and you need to comment out a line in the my.cnf file
[03:16:00] fryfrog: oh, avi -> vcd nm
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[03:16:00] braniff: transcode — ok
[03:16:00] Esotericisms: nuv-export is good (which reminds me) what is the website to get nuv export .. I reinstall my system .. need to install it again
[03:16:00] Agrajag-: google.com
[03:16:00] Esotericisms: Agrajag- (this is the error) --> 2005-05–24 22:15:02.889 ERROR when trying to delete file: /video/recordings/1006_20050521223200_20050522003000.nuv. File doesn't exist. Database metadata will not be removed.
[03:16:00] fryfrog: anyone use a DVI->HDMI cable?
[03:17:00] rpete: Esotericisms, just touch the file and then delete it
[03:17:00] Agrajag-: Esotericisms: hmm well you could just delete it from the database yourself. or upgrade to 0.18.1. i think it's fixed in that.. not sure
[03:17:00] Agrajag-: or what rpete said
[03:17:00] shibz: comment out the skip-networking in my.cnf so it looks like #skip-networking and then restart mysqld and it will work
[03:17:00] Esotericisms: sounds good ..
[03:18:00] Esotericisms: not sure if I want to upgrade my system works really good :) ... nah, I will upgrade eventually just not at the moment ...
[03:19:00] braniff: yah don't take a working system for granted :/
[03:24:00] iggy: I constantly have at least 4 things in my job queue
[03:25:00] iggy: and I know I'm never going to watch all this stuff
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[03:44:00] gnarface: gnar!
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[03:53:00] gnarface: so this pirate walks into a bar
[03:53:00] gnarface: with a ship tiller (the steering wheel) attached to the crotch of his pants
[03:53:00] gnarface: and the bartender says "hey, what's with the steering wheel?"
[03:53:00] gnarface: to which the pirate replies
[03:53:00] gnarface: "yarr, its drivin me nuts!"
[03:54:00] ** gnarface lol **
[03:54:00] Ashlar: *snort*
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[04:00:00] cortezdapimp: hello
[04:00:00] sunilonln: hi
[04:00:00] cortezdapimp: anyone here use an os-x frontend?
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[04:01:00] sunilonln: not me
[04:01:00] cortezdapimp: d'oh.
[04:01:00] gnarface: is there one?
[04:01:00] sunilonln: i believe so
[04:01:00] cortezdapimp: i'm having trouble building one for .18. I had one that worked fine for .17
[04:01:00] sunilonln: http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/MythOnMacOsx
[04:01:00] gnarface: you could compile myth for osX if you had fink right?
[04:01:00] cortezdapimp: you don't need fink
[04:01:00] cortezdapimp: theres a packager pl script that does it
[04:02:00] gnarface: have you tried it WITH fink?
[04:02:00] cortezdapimp: but what it built doesn't seem to have worked.
[04:02:00] cortezdapimp: it doesn't error out
[04:02:00] cortezdapimp: i havne't with fink but i haven't read anything online or seen anyone that has done it that way
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[04:02:00] cortezdapimp: plus... fink doesn't usually make .app bundles
[04:03:00] iggy: Beirdo was playing with that a while back, afaik he gave up in disgust
[04:03:00] cortezdapimp: lol
[04:03:00] cortezdapimp: well .17 works great. no problems whatsoever
[04:03:00] laiqu: how ru alls
[04:03:00] iggy: and he's a peristent little (big?) bastard if I've ever seen one
[04:04:00] cortezdapimp: but there is no nightly past 3/25 (last .17 afaik) on the nightly builds page
[04:04:00] laiqu: mp how ru
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[04:05:00] iggy: Ashlar-: hsd1?
[04:06:00] Ashlar-: dunno.. dfw
[04:06:00] Ashlar-: always wondered what that stood for
[04:07:00] iggy: I live close to Houston
[04:07:00] Ashlar-: ahh
[04:08:00] iggy: I was just curious, hsd1 didn't sound familiar, figured I would ask ;)
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[04:09:00] Ashlar-: yah.. comcast usually has more descriptive names for their centers
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[04:10:00] Beirdo: hehe
[04:10:00] Beirdo: I haven't compiled for OSX in a while
[04:11:00] Beirdo: but if I remember right, you HAVE to compile Qt, not use the one from fink
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[04:12:00] reel: I would be a better anakin
[04:12:00] reel: oops wrong window
[04:12:00] GotD0t: hahahaha
[04:13:00] reel: at least it wasn't something really embarassing or a credit card number :O
[04:13:00] GotD0t: true
[04:14:00] GotD0t: but why would you give that out in IRC anyways?>
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[04:16:00] cortezdapimp: beirdo what vers did you compile?
[04:16:00] cortezdapimp: .17?
[04:16:00] Beirdo: 0.16, I think
[04:16:00] Beirdo: a long time ago
[04:16:00] cortezdapimp: oh word up that is a long time ago
[04:16:00] cortezdapimp: well theres a packager script now that is mostly automagic
[04:17:00] cortezdapimp: but the app it creates bounces a couple times then doesnt do anything
[04:17:00] cortezdapimp: (quits)
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[04:24:00] cortez1apimp: argh flaky connection lately
[04:26:00] sunilonln: Beirdo: was it you that used to use fglrx?
[04:27:00] Beirdo: used to?
[04:27:00] Beirdo: I still do
[04:28:00] sunilonln: do you mind helping me install?
[04:29:00] EricAnderson: Is there a reason why transcoding would fail?
[04:30:00] EricAnderson: Do I need another package
[04:32:00] sunilonln: i upgraded the kernel and successfully installed the package from livna, but on boot it
[04:32:00] Beirdo: just follow ATI's directions
[04:33:00] Beirdo: screw livna
[04:33:00] Beirdo: get it from ATI
[04:33:00] sunilonln: ok
[04:33:00] sunilonln: so.. should i uninstall?
[04:33:00] Beirdo: who knows what livna did to it?
[04:34:00] sunilonln: ok, i will uninstall, then reset x through the configuration thing that comes up and try at
[04:34:00] sunilonln: *ati
[04:36:00] sunilonln: is there a simple way to make sure i've completely gotten rid of the nvidia driver?
[04:37:00] Beirdo: I dunno
[04:38:00] gnarface: should be a file list in the readme
[04:38:00] gnarface: somewhere
[04:39:00] sunilonln: meaning i would have to re-download it?
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[04:42:00] gnarface: i dunno. probably.
[04:43:00] sunilonln: i had a feeling switching cards would be difficult
[04:43:00] sunilonln: but i wasn't expecting to run in to undocumented territory
[04:44:00] sunilonln: if i run "apt-get remove nvidia*"
[04:44:00] sunilonln: it finishes with a bunch of
[04:44:00] sunilonln: E: Package nvidia-graphics7174-kmdl-1:1.0_7174–68.rhfc3.at is a virtual package with multiple good providers.
[04:45:00] sunilonln: or similar, and doesn't do anything
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[04:49:00] gnarface: all i can tell you is to read the apt-get manpage
[04:49:00] mindseye: hey does anyone know if the debian-mythtv source is down?
[04:49:00] ** rpete is not connecting **
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[04:52:00] mindseye: anybody up at this late hour?
[04:52:00] gnarface: no
[04:52:00] rpete: mindseye, the rit.edu source is not responding
[04:55:00] mindseye: ok, it's not just me. thanks :)
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[05:03:00] NightMonkey: Hi all. I haven't been brave enough to try 0.18.1 and my LXM membership. Anyone here using LXM? How's the service?
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[05:04:00] Beirdo: you paid for it, you try it
[05:04:00] NightMonkey: Beirdo: I paid so I can vote ;).
[05:05:00] NightMonkey: Beirdo: Just polling the channel. :)
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[05:05:00] Beirdo: doubt many here use LXM
[05:06:00] NightMonkey: Beirdo: Apparently so. I knew when, after Slashdot, my registration ID was something like "23", they probably didn't have a hit on their hands.
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[05:07:00] Beirdo: we'll see
[05:07:00] Beirdo: not all of us CAN use them yet
[05:07:00] NightMonkey: Beirdo: I do like the idea of compensation for devs, tho.
[05:08:00] NightMonkey: Beirdo: Because it's only US, you mean?
[05:09:00] Beirdo: yes
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[05:09:00] Beirdo: it's US-only at this point
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[05:09:00] NightMonkey: Beirdo: Yeah. They say in their FAQ that they and TMS might extend it to Europe, pending demand. But, that's not a promise, of course.
[05:11:00] Beirdo: fuck Europe
[05:11:00] NightMonkey: whoah
[05:11:00] Beirdo: I want it for Canada
[05:11:00] Beirdo: :)
[05:12:00] NightMonkey: Beirdo: For a minute there, I wondered if you were Donald Rumsfeld on IRC.
[05:12:00] sunilonln: Beirdo: are you running fedora?
[05:12:00] sunilonln: i think i want to reinstall fedora and start over
[05:12:00] Beirdo: Buck Fush
[05:12:00] NightMonkey: heh
[05:12:00] Beirdo: yes, I use FC1
[05:13:00] sunilonln: people in #fedora have essentially told me to start over as apparently my system has turned into a mess by using j-rod's faq
[05:13:00] sunilonln: *howto
[05:13:00] Beirdo: what the hell do they know?
[05:14:00] sunilonln: i don't know
[05:14:00] sunilonln: but i'm getting frustrated
[05:14:00] NightMonkey: AARGH! I hate Mozilla's middle click! I was just about to post a wonderful explanation of the Apache 2GB file problem, and, poof, webmail zapped.
[05:14:00] Beirdo: so go to bed
[05:15:00] sunilonln: meh, i'm determined
[05:15:00] sunilonln: i'm trying to uninstall the nvidia rpms
[05:16:00] Beirdo: there is no try, only do
[05:16:00] sunilonln: but one of them has a failed dependency:
[05:16:00] sunilonln: libXvMCNVIDIA_dynamic.so.1 is needed by (installed) mplayer-1.0–44_pre7.rhfc3.at.i386
[05:16:00] Beirdo: force it
[05:16:00] Beirdo: you've already broke it anyways
[05:16:00] sunilonln: wouldn't that come back and bite me later?
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[05:17:00] Beirdo: I have the libs installed
[05:17:00] Beirdo: nvidia-graphics-libs
[05:18:00] sunilonln: k, so i don't touch them then?
[05:18:00] Beirdo: I dunno, seems to work for me
[05:18:00] sunilonln: k
[05:19:00] sunilonln: so the only nvidia rpm i have installed now is nvidia-graphics7174-libs-1.0_7174–68.rhfc3.at
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[05:19:00] Beirdo: that's probably safe
[05:20:00] sunilonln: fedorafaq.org says to install ati using "yum install ati-fglrx kernel-module-fglrx-`(uname -r)`"
[05:20:00] sunilonln: i'm guessing your opinion is to go directly to ati?
[05:20:00] Beirdo: blah
[05:20:00] Beirdo: get it from ATI
[05:20:00] sunilonln: ok
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[05:21:00] sunilonln: now i don't know whether i have xfree86 or xorg, and what the version is
[05:22:00] gnarface: damn man
[05:22:00] gnarface: that's pathetic
[05:22:00] Beirdo: heh
[05:22:00] sunilonln: i know
[05:22:00] gnarface: check your log foo
[05:22:00] ** Beirdo starts heading for bed **
[05:23:00] sunilonln: and which log would that be
[05:23:00] gnarface: the X log
[05:23:00] gnarface: foo
[05:23:00] gnarface: ls -l /var/log
[05:23:00] gnarface: what do you see?
[05:23:00] ** sunilonln is cringing for asking all the newbie questions **
[05:23:00] NightMonkey: Ah, finally killed that middle mouse clicking disaster.
[05:23:00] ** NightMonkey done talking about mozilla **
[05:23:00] ** gnarface clicks the middle mouse button **
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[05:24:00] NightMonkey: Hah
[05:26:00] sunilonln: file /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 from install of fglrx_6_8_0–8.12.10–1 conflicts with file from package xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL-6.8.1–12
[05:26:00] gnarface: no shit
[05:26:00] gnarface: overwrite
[05:26:00] gnarface: back it up first though
[05:26:00] Beirdo: remove the Mesa one
[05:27:00] gnarface: stupid mesa
[05:27:00] sunilonln: ok
[05:27:00] ** sunilonln knows how to do that much **
[05:27:00] Beirdo: you can always put it back later
[05:27:00] Beirdo: heh
[05:28:00] sunilonln: yay, it installed
[05:28:00] sunilonln: now i'm guessing that i edit the xorg conf file? or is there a fglrx config utility?
[05:29:00] gnarface: god only knows.
[05:29:00] Beirdo: fglrxconfig
[05:29:00] gnarface: i'd do it by hand.
[05:29:00] Beirdo: sheesh :)
[05:29:00] Beirdo: run their config
[05:29:00] Beirdo: then edit from there
[05:30:00] ** sunilonln thanks the powers that be for a graphical utility **
[05:30:00] sunilonln: ..and also everyone that's helping me
[05:30:00] sunilonln: someday soon i will know how to do all this
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[05:34:00] sunilonln: what's the difference between NTSC-M and -N?
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[05:46:00] Beirdo: goooogle
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[06:00:00] william: ls
[06:00:00] william: oops :/
[06:00:00] william: anyone awake?
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[06:37:00] BMOC: does anyone have degraded video performance due to their via chipsets?
[06:40:00] Agrajag-: yes
[06:41:00] BMOC: Agrajag-: is there a workaround?
[06:41:00] BMOC: should i not use via-agp?
[06:41:00] Agrajag-: i dont know, i don't have a via chipset, i've just heard that people have that problem.
[06:41:00] BMOC: you haven't heard of any solutions?
[06:42:00] Agrajag-: hmm not sure – check the mailing list, people were talking about it on there i think
[06:42:00] BMOC: k
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[06:51:00] mastag17: howdy
[06:51:00] intrade: hi
[06:54:00] mastag17: is mythtv digital only or does it accept analog channels?
[06:54:00] BMOC: mastag17: you mean like analog cable?
[06:55:00] mastag17: yea
[06:55:00] Agrajag-: it does dvb if that's wha tyou're asking
[06:55:00] BMOC: yes
[06:55:00] mastag17: i thought dvb was digital video broadcasting
[06:55:00] Agrajag-: well what kind of digital are you talking about?
[06:55:00] mastag17: i said analog...
[06:55:00] mastag17: i didnt say digital
[06:55:00] mastag17: heh
[06:55:00] Agrajag-: oh right
[06:55:00] Agrajag-: heh
[06:56:00] mastag17: you know channels that are broadcasted without the need for a DCTV box
[06:56:00] Agrajag-: yeah of course it does analogue stuff
[06:56:00] mastag17: ok
[06:56:00] mastag17: i read that a card doesnt support it or something
[06:56:00] mastag17: a lot of this is confusing for me...
[06:56:00] mastag17: what type of tv tuner card would be the best for me...i have some card an ATI something VE
[07:02:00] Agrajag-: no idea
[07:03:00] BMOC: what do you want to do?
[07:03:00] BMOC: and how much do you want to spend? and what country are you in?
[07:04:00] mastag17: i really dont know, and i would prefer to use my tv card if possible...and the USA
[07:05:00] BMOC: what tv card do you have?
[07:05:00] mastag17: i dont remember, dont even have the drivers installed for it, it was an ATI TV Wonder VE or something along those lines
[07:06:00] BMOC: well, you need to find that stuff out:)
[07:06:00] mastag17: yea
[07:06:00] mastag17: that sounds right
[07:07:00] sunilonln: if i'm ssh-ed into a computer, how do i start the frontend on its display
[07:07:00] sunilonln: johnny69 (~Yeah@pcp593974pcs
[07:08:00] Agrajag-: export DISPLAY=:0 ; mythfrontend
[07:10:00] sunilonln: is there a way to get keyboard control of the other computer via ssh, or would i need vnc for that?
[07:11:00] Agrajag-: what do you mean?
[07:11:00] Agrajag-: ssh gives you keyboard control... ?
[07:11:00] sunilonln: i want to be able to work within the frontend
[07:11:00] sunilonln: basically use my laptop as a remote
[07:12:00] Agrajag-: yeah vnc
[07:14:00] sunilonln: how would i get the vnc server to run on the same desktop that the frontend is running on?
[07:15:00] BMOC: hey
[07:15:00] BMOC: why not use mythweb?
[07:15:00] BMOC: that's far more practical
[07:15:00] BMOC: that's all i use, even locally, anymore
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[07:21:00] sunilonln: hmm
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[07:21:00] sunilonln: good idea
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[07:33:00] ** xris is glad to hear that people like mythweb. **
[07:37:00] xris: yay, down to below 20G of stuff on the mythbox.
[07:42:00] BMOC: all i use is mythweb anymore
[07:42:00] BMOC: to schedule recordings
[07:44:00] xris: yup. someone (me) should get off his a$$ and get the keyword-search recording schedule stuff implemented, though.
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[17:01:00] Beirdo: stupid bitch bot
[17:01:00] Beirdo: thanks
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[17:02:00] Beirdo: there musta been a netsplit and the stupid thing flooded on reconnect
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[17:17:00] xris: last night, I think
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[18:10:00] Beirdo: hmph
[18:10:00] Beirdo: stupid bot
[18:10:00] xris: heh
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[18:13:00] ** Beirdo cues Extreme – Pornograffitti **
[18:14:00] Cardoe: hrm
[18:15:00] Cardoe: Thinking about the Media Center Extender
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[18:15:00] Cardoe: maybe get one and see if I can make Myth talk to it
[18:18:00] Beirdo: why is music NEVER loud enough at work?
[18:19:00] ** xris likes his job **
[18:19:00] Cardoe: xris: is the music loud enough?
[18:20:00] xris: no music at the moment.
[18:20:00] xris: but yes, I can crank it up as much as I want. good headphones.
[18:21:00] Beirdo: Momma says boys will be boys.. That's little Jack horny...
[18:21:00] Beirdo: Oh, I crank it
[18:21:00] Beirdo: but these are half-open headphones
[18:21:00] Beirdo: heh
[18:21:00] Beirdo: so my coworkers are getting treated to some Extreme too
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[18:22:00] Beirdo: and I know this kinda music will carry nicely
[18:22:00] Beirdo: heh
[18:22:00] k0rnz: anyone here running mythtv on Fedora Core 3?
[18:22:00] ** xris does **
[18:23:00] xris: mine are, too. but kormoc doesn't care since he just puts his on, too.
[18:23:00] k0rnz: I'm currently in the middle of installing mythtv on using YUMEX. My tv-card is a Hauppauge PVR-150
[18:23:00] xris: k0rnz: good luck. drivers are still pretty unstable.
[18:23:00] kormoc: hehe
[18:23:00] k0rnz: *crosses fingers* thanks
[18:24:00] xris: k0rnz: SOME version of the driver will work. it's just a matter of figuring out which one does.
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[18:24:00] xris: I'm running 0.3.2y to get usable svideo with audio.
[18:24:00] Beirdo: xris: as long as you're both happy :)
[18:24:00] xris: newer ones don't work
[18:24:00] k0rnz: well hopefully this automated install in Fedora core 3 using Yumex will work ok
[18:25:00] xris: k0rnz: you'll still need to compile ivtv on your own (though you *can* get the firmware from atrpms)
[18:25:00] xris: s/need/probably want/
[18:25:00] k0rnz: xris: yeah I think I saw ictv on some of the main yum repositories
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[18:26:00] Beirdo: Yo, slePP
[18:26:00] xris: k0rnz: it's there. but I've had better luck compiling the drivers by hand for the unstable stuff.
[18:28:00] k0rnz: xris: thanks I'll make a note of that. Well the yum install for mythtv suite on fedora core 3 went well everything is installed. Now I just need to compile ictv drivers and setup mySQL database
[18:28:00] Beirdo: ahhhh.
[18:29:00] Beirdo: if you don't like what you see here, get the funk out...
[18:29:00] Beirdo: this should be the theme song for the channel
[18:29:00] Beirdo: :)
[18:29:00] xris: k0rnz: grab the ivtv firmware via yum, too
[18:29:00] xris: heh
[18:32:00] Beirdo: followed immediately by More Than Words
[18:32:00] Beirdo: that's a pretty sudden change
[18:34:00] xris: Beirdo: you should just start using audioscrobbler and have your bot paste in your song choices as they happen.
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[18:34:00] Beirdo: hehe
[18:35:00] Beirdo: that's not the worst idea I've ever heard, but I dunno that I wanna subject this channel to such treatment
[18:36:00] Beirdo: OMG
[18:36:00] Beirdo: they have a WMP plugin too
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[18:40:00] xris: and xmms and itunes and rhythmbox
[18:40:00] Beirdo: heh, like I use them
[18:41:00] Beirdo: well, I use iTunes, but primarily to sync the iPod
[18:41:00] xris: heh
[18:41:00] Beirdo: use WMP at work, use Winamp at home
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[18:44:00] ** kormoc loves itunes **
[18:45:00] Beirdo: I'm not willing to pollute the corporate image at work with it
[18:45:00] xris: lol
[18:45:00] Beirdo: it's a waste of my time the next time they reinstall my image
[18:46:00] kormoc: they reinstall your image?
[18:46:00] Beirdo: occasionally
[18:46:00] Beirdo: "they" being the people sitting 2 cubicles away
[18:46:00] Beirdo: heh
[18:47:00] kormoc: odd
[18:47:00] kormoc: ahh well
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[18:48:00] Beirdo: how is that odd?
[18:49:00] kormoc: well, it's your box, your image, why would they restall it :P
[18:49:00] Beirdo: it's not MY box
[18:49:00] Beirdo: it belongs to the company
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[18:49:00] Beirdo: and maintaining our Winblows boxes is their job
[18:49:00] kormoc: ooh
[18:49:00] kormoc: fair nuff
[18:50:00] Beirdo: they usually leave us UNIX admins alone as much as possible though
[18:50:00] Cardoe: YES!
[18:51:00] Cardoe: My roommate bought Chapelle Show season DVDs
[18:52:00] ** slePP waves at beirdo **
[18:52:00] Beirdo: just setup my asterisk to let me call out if I enter a PIN
[18:52:00] Beirdo: so I can call in from whereever, and call out. :)
[18:52:00] Cardoe: nice
[18:52:00] Cardoe: I was wondering what you had setup with Asterisk
[18:52:00] Beirdo: which is good as I'm flying to TN Friday
[18:52:00] Cardoe: my dad's got a full 3mbit DSL pipe
[18:53:00] Cardoe: and he complains that 1 call isn't too clear.
[18:53:00] Beirdo: uhh
[18:53:00] Beirdo: it should be
[18:53:00] Cardoe: yeah
[18:53:00] Cardoe: cause I have shitty cable
[18:53:00] Beirdo: unless his provider is causing jitter, etx
[18:53:00] Cardoe: and it's fine for me
[18:53:00] Cardoe: So what do you have setup?
[18:53:00] Beirdo: in what way?
[18:54:00] Beirdo: I use 3mbit DSL
[18:54:00] Cardoe: what's your * do
[18:54:00] Beirdo: and I have about 6 VoIP providers right now
[18:54:00] Cardoe: why so many?
[18:54:00] Beirdo: :)
[18:54:00] Beirdo: diversity, etc
[18:54:00] Cardoe: fail overs?
[18:54:00] Beirdo: pretty much
[18:54:00] Cardoe: Beirdo: /msg?
[18:54:00] Beirdo: sure, whatever
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[18:58:00] rjune: if my backend and frontend are diffreent machines, do I have to mount the dir from the backend on the front end?
[18:59:00] xris: shouldn't
[18:59:00] rjune: so does the backend stream the file to the frontend?
[18:59:00] rjune: and is it an encoded or decoded stream?
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[19:06:00] xris: encoded stream, I think
[19:07:00] xris: decoded would be WAY too much bandwidth
[19:10:00] rjune: cool.
[19:14:00] iggy: IT WORKED!!!!!
[19:14:00] Beirdo: it did?
[19:15:00] iggy: Beirdo: indeed
[19:15:00] beavis: is the new mythui stuff integrated in the mythtv source now?
[19:15:00] Beirdo: better fire it then. this channel's for slackers
[19:16:00] iggy: Beirdo: I added a drive to my raid5 array, and expanded my fs to fit, and all my data is still there
[19:16:00] Beirdo: nice
[19:16:00] Beirdo: I bet it didn't rebuild the array though, likely linearly added the new drive to the end
[19:17:00] iggy: no, it's a member
[19:17:00] GreyFoxx: beavis: not even close to complete
[19:17:00] Beirdo: OK, cool
[19:17:00] beavis: xris: how can mythweb be used on debian (with make/make install?)
[19:17:00] ** kormoc raises a eyebrow. **
[19:17:00] kormoc: php uses make?
[19:17:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[19:17:00] beavis: GreyFoxx: but there's already mythui in mythtv/libs
[19:17:00] xris: beavis: it's a web app. you untar it in your web tree and read the README
[19:18:00] GreyFoxx: beavis: the libraries are not complete, and I had assumed you were looking to see if the gui functions had been converted to use them
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[19:19:00] Vapor|Zappa: hi
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[19:19:00] BattousaiX: Hey everyone.
[19:19:00] beavis: xris: I've been using it with mdz's packages for a long time but now I'm make&&make installing here, so it doesn't copy the package to /var/www.
[19:19:00] Vapor|Zappa: does mythtv support the analog sat card "Mediafocus" ?
[19:20:00] iggy: holy crap, half that other channel is here
[19:20:00] xris: beavis: no, it doesn't. and it shouldn't.
[19:20:00] iggy: BattousaiX: hi
[19:20:00] xris: it shouldn't even be in mythplugins, but isaac wants to keep it there.
[19:20:00] Vapor|Zappa: could somebody help me?
[19:20:00] BattousaiX: I have my incoming cable -> switch -> cable box + cable modem -> (from cable box to PC): I get channel information, but not any picture just static. The same wires were used for my TV and I had a signal and watch TV just fine. Any solutions?
[19:21:00] iggy: Vapor|Zappa: there's a page on the mythtv site that tells what works
[19:21:00] xris: Vapor|Zappa: stfw (aka, you'll find more info with google)
[19:21:00] iggy: BattousaiX: probably a tuner problem
[19:23:00] GreyFoxx: BattousaiX: So you can watch TV when the cable box plugs into the TV, but get static when plugging the cable box into the pc ?
[19:23:00] beavis: GreyFoxx: so the only way to see an example is the little mythuitest?
[19:23:00] GreyFoxx: beavis: Only stuff I've seen
[19:23:00] beavis: does mfe/mfd use mythui?
[19:24:00] GreyFoxx: do you have access to the source code ?
[19:24:00] beavis: what is mfe/mfd exactly? is it the new ui stuff or a new sound engine?
[19:25:00] beavis: GreyFoxx: yes, but it doesn't compile here on 64bit
[19:25:00] GreyFoxx: You can still read it to answer most of your questions :)
[19:26:00] BattousaiX: GreyFoxx, yes. Weird once it worked fine.
[19:26:00] GreyFoxx: BattousaiX: And let me guess, you set your TV to channel 3 or 4 and control the cable box with a remote to change channels ?
[19:27:00] BattousaiX: Yes, same setup on mythtv also.
[19:27:00] GreyFoxx: And have you set the Tuner in your PC to channel 3/4 as needed ?:)
[19:27:00] BattousaiX: Yes.
[19:27:00] xris: cable box doesn't have a composite output?
[19:27:00] GreyFoxx: So in live TV, you have changed to both 3 and 4 and still get static ?
[19:27:00] xris: quality will be much better than rf
[19:27:00] GreyFoxx: True, I had assumed he was using coax for this
[19:28:00] xris: (composite is also coax)
[19:28:00] Beirdo: hehe
[19:28:00] GreyFoxx: Hehe true enough
[19:28:00] xris: most wires these days are, actually
[19:28:00] Beirdo: except twisted pair :)
[19:28:00] GreyFoxx: But like the word "ain't" You know what I mean when I say it :)
[19:29:00] xris: ain't is in the OED by now, I'm sure.
[19:29:00] xris: though it's used far less than it was back in the 80's
[19:29:00] GreyFoxx: I still hear people bitch about how it isn't a word
[19:29:00] Beirdo: bah, people are stupid
[19:29:00] iggy: english teachers and prostites that think they are clever
[19:29:00] GreyFoxx: If you know what I mean when I make a sound, then it's a word
[19:30:00] iggy: *prostitutes
[19:30:00] xris: GreyFoxx: "towards" isn't a word, either.
[19:30:00] Beirdo: I'll trust you on that, iggy
[19:30:00] xris: well, not how people use it.
[19:30:00] GreyFoxx: heh
[19:30:00] BattousaiX: ain't is in Oxford I believe.
[19:30:00] ** GreyFoxx goes **
[19:30:00] ** Beirdo orders a round for the channel **
[19:30:00] Beirdo: drink up.
[19:30:00] BattousaiX: Hey GreyFoxx, yes, I do not know what i have changed since a working configuration.
[19:31:00] Esotericisms: well I took my video card out and I went to exchange it ... it must be my tv that is causing the display to be skewed
[19:31:00] ** xris thinks Beirdo is generous for paying for such nice port.  :) **
[19:32:00] Beirdo: hehe
[19:32:00] Beirdo: mmmm. port
[19:32:00] xris: heh
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[19:32:00] Beirdo: mmmm. Bacardi 151
[19:32:00] Beirdo: frigging firewater
[19:32:00] Beirdo: :)
[19:32:00] xris: lol
[19:32:00] xris: pour on a twinkie, and ignite.
[19:32:00] BattousaiX: Actually. I went straight from the splitter to the modem and computer last time and it worked, but didn't display channel information and maxed with 125 channels. Now I do get the channel information. Just this time static only no picture.
[19:32:00] beavis: Although widely disapproved as nonstandard and more common in the habitual speech of the less educated, ain't in senses 1 and 2 is flourishing in American English.
[19:32:00] Beirdo: that stuff likely took a week off my cold suffering though
[19:33:00] kormoc: BattousaiX, you have digital cable?
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[19:35:00] Esotericisms: I got a FX5700 instead of an FX5500 ... it was in the wrong packaging ... score for me
[19:36:00] BattousaiX: Yes.
[19:36:00] beavis: mfd doesn't still want to compile here
[19:36:00] BattousaiX: kormoc, Yes.
[19:37:00] Beirdo: the mother-f@$ing daemon?
[19:38:00] beavis: he
[19:38:00] opello: Beirdo: lol
[19:38:00] Beirdo: hi
[19:38:00] opello: howdy
[19:39:00] ** Beirdo still marvels at the bass response of these headphones **
[19:40:00] Beirdo: they literally are creating a positive pressure zone, and they are partial open ear
[19:40:00] opello: link?
[19:41:00] Beirdo: they are Sony MDR-CD380
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[19:46:00] BattousaiX: Hey Beirdo do you have any ideas?
[19:47:00] Beirdo: plenty, but they aren't all printable.
[19:47:00] Beirdo: what are you talking about?
[19:47:00] BattousaiX: Beirdo, hehe.
[19:48:00] BattousaiX: I relogged. :( I'm getting nothing but static and channel information. The lines are verified, and I once had this working without passing through my cable box, but with that way I get no channel informaiton.
[19:48:00] Beirdo: no ideas
[19:48:00] Beirdo: you likely messed something up somewhere
[19:49:00] BattousaiX: Hehe. :(
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[19:51:00] patch: Any gentoo users having issues with mysql?
[19:51:00] Beirdo: this song is well named
[19:51:00] Beirdo: "Too Long"
[19:51:00] Beirdo: hehe
[19:51:00] Beirdo: it's 10min long
[19:51:00] BattousaiX: Hehe.
[19:51:00] BattousaiX: I gave up trying on Gentoo 64 and installed KnoppMyth.
[19:51:00] Beirdo: and it's giving the headphones a workout
[19:52:00] Beirdo: the bass levels in Daft Punk are always a touch on the hot side
[19:53:00] BattousaiX: Beirdo: Do you find this weird? I'm now going directly from my line -> splitter -> Modem + computer and now I get channels (no static) and channel info.
[19:53:00] ** Beirdo shrugs **
[19:54:00] Beirdo: dunno
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[19:57:00] xris: BattousaiX: did you try using a composite connector instead of the rf connector?
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[20:00:00] pyrodex: Just reinstalled my box and I am trying to import my iconmap and I am getting the following error, Error unable to set document content: iconmap.xml:767c42 error occurred while parsing reference
[20:00:00] pyrodex: any ideas?
[20:00:00] pyrodex: using CVS from this morning
[20:01:00] BattousaiX: xris my cable box doesn't support composite. I'll need to go High Def to get that box.
[20:01:00] xris: so you only have RF out? that's lame defeats the point of having digital, since rf to the tv is analog
[20:01:00] xris: (sure you're not confusing composite and component?)
[20:01:00] pyrodex: Nevermind, fixed it. It was a & in the logo image name... Weird.
[20:01:00] xris: composite is a standard yellow RCA conmnector.
[20:02:00] BattousaiX: xris I do know the difference.
[20:02:00] xris: BattousaiX: well, that sucks of them.
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[20:03:00] BattousaiX: xris component has 3 is only for video, composite has audio/video. I used to know what each color did for component, but I stopped learning that stuff when I got out of the field.
[20:03:00] xris: composite is only video
[20:03:00] kormoc: http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i8358
[20:03:00] BattousaiX: xris, if I use composite I'll not be limited to 125 channels, also. Right?
[20:03:00] xris: no. composite should show exactly what the rf one does on channel 3, but will have better quality. and myth wouldn't be confused about switching channels.
[20:04:00] xris: sorry, yes, you will not be limited.
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[20:04:00] BattousaiX: Yes, that's what I thought. Coaxial sends channel information + audio + video.
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[20:04:00] xris: they're all coaxial
[20:04:00] BattousaiX: I think I may have line interference.
[20:04:00] xris: but yes, rf is audio + video on many channels. composite is JUST video
[20:05:00] xris: BattousaiX: rf has interference no matter what, and it's an analog signal which means that quality is relatively poor.
[20:05:00] mirak: while the hell time shift isn't preserved when you change the channel ??
[20:05:00] BattousaiX: But I can't do better if incomming is coaxial. Could I?
[20:06:00] xris: BattousaiX: thought you said you had digital cable.
[20:06:00] xris: mirak: um, because you changed channels.
[20:06:00] BattousaiX: I do. Just not High Definition.
[20:06:00] mirak: xris: why would time shift be not preserved ?
[20:06:00] xris: mirak: because you can only record one channel at a time.
[20:07:00] mirak: ?
[20:07:00] mirak: so what ?
[20:07:00] kormoc: because if you changed channels, wouldn't it be because you wanted to watch what's on channel blah?
[20:07:00] mirak: I change the channel
[20:07:00] BattousaiX: The incoming from the wall is coaxial. But, isn't high def just a resolution such as 1080i? I don't know. Maybe I'm just confused.
[20:07:00] mirak: I don't want the buffer to be deleted
[20:07:00] xris: BattousaiX: they're all coaxial cable.. it's the signal ON the cable that makes the difference.
[20:07:00] kormoc: then you can fix it up mirak :)
[20:07:00] xris: digital cable and anlog rf cable both run over that cable.
[20:08:00] BattousaiX: xris I'm sorry. :)
[20:08:00] mirak: kormoc: first step was to determine if it's a feature or a "non feature" :)
[20:08:00] xris: digital cable is better quality than analog cable (which is what you'd get if you just jacked that cable into your mythbox)....
[20:08:00] Beirdo: *can be* better
[20:08:00] xris: if your digital box ONLY has rf output, and no RCA jacks, your cable company is screwing you over.
[20:08:00] xris: Beirdo: yes....
[20:08:00] Beirdo: it isn't always. some providers way over-compress digital
[20:09:00] kormoc: mirak, tis how it was designed to be, if that answers your question.
[20:09:00] kormoc: mirak, you could theoritically switch using a external program, say tvtime and it would keep the buffer.
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[20:09:00] BattousaiX: I'd have to go through S-Video for my PVR-350. Then I'd probably have the same issue of seeing static. :(
[20:09:00] xris: mirak: has something to do with how the ring buffer is set up, since it would have to track channel changes inside of the stream.
[20:10:00] mirak: kormoc: in fact I accidentally changed the channel
[20:10:00] xris: BattousaiX: so you have svideo but no composite?
[20:10:00] xris: odd
[20:10:00] kormoc: mirak, outside of myth?
[20:10:00] BattousaiX: xris should i have different on a PVR-350?
[20:10:00] xris: no, on your cable box.
[20:10:00] mirak: no inside, in fact I paused, and wanted to go jump back, like in record mode, but arrows up and down happen to change the channel
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[20:10:00] xris: anyway, use svideo if you have it. quality blows away rf
[20:10:00] mirak: since I only have a capture card, I have only one channel
[20:11:00] kormoc: BattousaiX, your cable box is your tuner in this case, the card doesn't need to tune.
[20:11:00] mirak: but in fact I would have exepted, the stream to be displayed live, and happened to the end of the ring buffer
[20:11:00] mirak: without erasing everything
[20:11:00] xris: BattousaiX: I think your problem is that when you change channels in myth, it actually tries to tune to those channels on the rf input, rather than staying on 3 and sending the channel-change signal to the cable box....
[20:11:00] mirak: at least tht's how I would have done it
[20:11:00] kormoc: mirak, yeah, that's how it's designed. I was saying if you change the channel with tvtime, myth won't see it as a channel change and wouldn't have wiped it.
[20:12:00] xris: did you try to tune the mythbox to channel 3 (or 4 or whatever) and get a signal?
[20:12:00] kormoc: the ring buffer is display once only isn't it?
[20:12:00] mirak: but though, I guess that mythtv cannot happen like that, since the capture settings might be different
[20:12:00] BattousaiX: Never a signal when through the cable box.
[20:12:00] xris: but like I said, if you HAVE svideo or composite, use those, don't do the rf thing.
[20:12:00] mirak: I guess it can't record on another card
[20:12:00] BattousaiX: xris do you have comcast?
[20:12:00] xris: BattousaiX: no, Dishnetwork
[20:12:00] xris: should be the same deal as digital cable, though.
[20:13:00] mirak: kormoc: tvtime couldn't have opened the card control
[20:13:00] BattousaiX: xris, I'm trying to see though if I'd be able to record special feature channels that require navigation through onscreen menus.
[20:13:00] mirak: since it was already busy with mythtv
[20:13:00] kormoc: mirak, one would think, but it does indeed
[20:13:00] xris: BattousaiX: simplify this for me... tell me what kind of connectors you have on the back of your cable box.
[20:13:00] kormoc: mirak, my bro screwed up recordings by doing that...
[20:13:00] mirak: kormoc: ah.
[20:14:00] mirak: kormoc: one thing I would like is that live TV records are stored on disk
[20:14:00] mirak: and expire after a defined time
[20:14:00] kormoc: so why not set them to just record?
[20:14:00] mirak: kormoc: that's not very flexible
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[20:15:00] mirak: kormoc: you need to do a programm. That's why I asked once if there was an instant record fonction
[20:15:00] kormoc: set the shows you wanna watch and record them, you don't know what you wanna watch?
[20:15:00] mirak: it would be similar to live tv, but it would just keeps the records
[20:15:00] BattousaiX: 9 port serial, rf, composite (oops, just not on pvr-350), SPDif port is covered, stero audio
[20:15:00] xris: mirak: there is a command to record what you're currently watching, but I forget what it is.
[20:15:00] kormoc: there is a way to say, record this show now, yes
[20:15:00] mirak: I have not well searched
[20:15:00] mirak: I think it's R
[20:16:00] kormoc: so what's wrong with that?
[20:16:00] mirak: but all what it do is show an empty string ""
[20:16:00] mirak: I don't know how to configure that
[20:16:00] BattousaiX: This means it's recording. Right? 2025 root 5 -10 0 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 0:16.53 ivtv-enc
[20:16:00] mirak: kormoc: I didn't managed to use this feature
[20:16:00] mirak: I need to dig it more
[20:17:00] BattousaiX: Nice I think it is. The show started at 3 and it's been running for 18 minutes now. :)
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[20:18:00] kormoc: mirak, R/r Toggle recording of current program (cycles through types)
[20:19:00] kormoc: I'd assume it cycles though the tuner cards
[20:21:00] mirak: when I do that it shows : ""
[20:21:00] kormoc: did you hit it a few times?
[20:22:00] mirak: many :)
[20:22:00] kormoc: and only ""'s
[20:23:00] kormoc: ?
[20:23:00] mirak: this display : record ""
[20:25:00] mirak: kormoc: Record ""
[20:26:00] BattousaiX: Anyone use Comcast and MythTV?
[20:26:00] xris: BattousaiX: too bad the pvr-350 is missing the composite input, then... must be some way to get myth to lock it on a channel, but then use an external program to change channels.
[20:26:00] BattousaiX: Maybe the hi-def box has an svideo output.
[20:27:00] BattousaiX: xris Thanks for your help. :)
[20:27:00] xris: BattousaiX: yeah, but then you'd have to pay for high def and not use it.
[20:27:00] BattousaiX: xris it would be worth it to record ON DEMAND shows. :)
[20:27:00] xris: but can you at least tell us if you tune the mythbox to channel 3 (or 4 or whatever) and view the rf output from the cable box?
[20:28:00] BattousaiX: I have SO many wires under my desk.
[20:28:00] xris: I'll stick with my Dish stuff... costs less, same/better quality, and mythtv makes great on-demand.  :)
[20:28:00] BattousaiX: 2 computers, KVM, about 6 coaxials, 5.1 channel surrount, router, and more.
[20:29:00] BattousaiX: xris, I know what you mean. I like Direct TV also, but cannot justify hacking down neighbors trees, even the 10ft pole extension didn't work well.
[20:29:00] xris: that sucks
[20:30:00] BattousaiX: But at least with comcast I get a discount on high speed internet. ;)
[20:30:00] ** kormoc smacks comcast around a bit.... **
[20:30:00] xris: heh. comcast won't provide me with the internet features I need.
[20:30:00] BattousaiX: Not many comcast users in here are there?
[20:30:00] kormoc: I'm a comcast user
[20:30:00] kormoc: I just don't like admiting it...
[20:30:00] BattousaiX: xris what do you require? They do have 6mbs/768kbps now for $55.00/month.
[20:30:00] BattousaiX: kormoc are you able to record the On Demand shows?
[20:31:00] xris: BattousaiX: actually, if you paid for high def, you could use the firewire stuff and actually get almost-high-def recordings.
[20:31:00] kormoc: nope, I don't have digital, I just have comcast analog.
[20:31:00] xris: BattousaiX: static IP(s), no ports blocked, reverse dns.
[20:31:00] BattousaiX: xris IPs are defintely not static.
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[20:31:00] BattousaiX: Comcast tells me that all the time. :)
[20:32:00] kormoc: that's why there's something called Dynamic IPS and Static IPS...
[20:32:00] xris: they're "close enough" for residential stuff... but I host about 10 domains on my dsl line, plus mail, dns, etc.
[20:32:00] BattousaiX: Yet, I've had them for about 4 years, IP changed once. :) I think they manually changed their layout which changed my IP.
[20:32:00] Beirdo: static IPs are static
[20:32:00] Beirdo: :)
[20:32:00] Pio: can anyone here recommend a good IR wireless repeater? I have these x10 ones but they dont work like they used to
[20:32:00] xris: I've pondered looking into the newer comcast small business stuff...
[20:32:00] iggy: xris: you should get a linode, it's better than hosting stuff on dsl
[20:32:00] xris: anyway, lunchtime. afk.
[20:32:00] BattousaiX: Hosting sites and you don't like reverse DNS. Some people need that for mail.
[20:32:00] iggy: and cheap as shit too
[20:33:00] xris: iggy: linode will connect to me at 100bT?
[20:33:00] BattousaiX: xris thanks for all of your help again. Have a great lunch.
[20:33:00] iggy: and tell them Beirdo and iggy sent you
[20:33:00] xris: that alone is worth having it close.
[20:33:00] Beirdo: heh
[20:33:00] Pio: i pump my myth into my house's cable wiring so i can pick it up in any room.. but i cant control it with a remote unless im in the room with the IR recevier.. if i had a repeater, i could use the remote in the other room
[20:33:00] Beirdo: to google with ya then, Pio. :)
[20:34:00] Beirdo: you know what you're looking for better than we do
[20:34:00] Pio: yeah im looking around but after these x10 things, im scared, because these were trash.. hoping someone could point me to a good one
[20:34:00] Pio: you cant trust a manufacturer's opinion of the range of their devices heh
[20:34:00] Pio: owell
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[20:47:00] LostSole: I've been fiddling with this for a little while, and seem to be stuck. mythfilldatabase can't connect to mysql. "mysql -u mythtv -p mythconverg" works just fine. I guess that means port 3306 is closed – what do I do to open it?
[20:49:00] Pio: what did you put in your mysql settings for myth?
[20:49:00] Pio: for hostname
[20:50:00] LostSole: Pio: localhost
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[20:50:00] Pio: try mysql -u mythtv -p -h localhost mythconverg
[20:51:00] LostSole: connects just fine.
[20:54:00] LostSole: ah dammit. I'm looking at the wrong mysql.txt file. :( it has hostname=127.0.0.1 . Changed that to localhost, everything runs just fine.
[20:54:00] Pio: huh weird
[20:54:00] Pio: if it works it works :)
[20:55:00] LostSole: yeah, no kidding. Thanks for the help though. I'm sure I'll be back.
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[21:02:00] ** kormoc wonders why localhost != 127.0.0.1 **
[21:04:00] LostSole: kormoc: beats the hell out of me. :) if it worked, I wouldn't have been asking about it. ;)
[21:05:00] j-rod: because if you use "localhost", you connect via a unix domain socket, if you use 127.0.0.1, you connect via a tcp socket
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[21:07:00] kormoc: ahh
[21:07:00] LostSole: j-rod: that makes sense. I wonder why my mysql isn't listening to the tcp socket though.
[21:07:00] j-rod: it is
[21:07:00] j-rod: you just don't have permission
[21:08:00] Beirdo: or you told it not to in my.cnf
[21:08:00] j-rod: or that
[21:09:00] LostSole: j-rod: hhmm, how would I get permission to do that? I thought I had my mythtv user set up right using the mythtv docs.
[21:10:00] j-rod: grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"127.0.0.1" identified by "mythtv";
[21:10:00] j-rod: but using the unix domain socket is better
[21:10:00] Beirdo: flush privileges;
[21:10:00] Beirdo: (just in case)
[21:10:00] LostSole: I thought the line mysql> grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"%" identified by "some_pass"; did that.
[21:11:00] Beirdo: it does in newer versions, but it can't hurt
[21:11:00] Beirdo: just in case
[21:11:00] j-rod: ew, ew, ew
[21:11:00] j-rod: :)
[21:11:00] j-rod: a bit too wide open for my taste
[21:11:00] Beirdo: oh
[21:11:00] LostSole: j-rod: yeah, I know, insecure. ;)
[21:11:00] Beirdo: the % might be a bit wide open :)
[21:11:00] Beirdo: you'd better hope your firewall works
[21:11:00] LostSole: I was just trying to get it to work though.
[21:12:00] j-rod: if that didn't work, could be something in my.cnf like Beirdo suggested
[21:12:00] LostSole: Beirdo: funny you should mention that – when I did an nmap localhost, 3306 didn't show up on the listed ports.
[21:12:00] Beirdo: go look at /etc/my.cnf (or whereever your distro hid it)
[21:12:00] Beirdo: get rid of any "bind 127.0.0.1" and "no-networking" lines
[21:13:00] Beirdo: or something like that
[21:13:00] Beirdo: comment them, I guess
[21:13:00] j-rod: "netstat -ntap | grep 3306" to see if its listening on any IP
[21:16:00] LostSole: j-rod: nothing. Beirdo: looking into the file now. :)
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[21:17:00] Beirdo: it's almost assuredly disabled then
[21:24:00] ChanServ sets mode +o Beirdo
[21:24:00] Beirdo sets mode +b *!*@c-24-3-15-166.hsd1.pa.comcast.net
[21:25:00] Beirdo sets mode -b *!*@c-24-3-15-166.client.comcast.net
[21:25:00] Beirdo sets mode -o Beirdo
[21:25:00] Beirdo: no fishheads allowed
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[21:29:00] j-rod: who is/was 24.3.15.166?
[21:29:00] LostSole: Beirdo: thanks for the suggestions with mysql and my.cnf. I appreciate the help.
[21:30:00] Beirdo: no problem
[21:30:00] Beirdo: j-rod: fishhead
[21:30:00] Beirdo: keep your eye on him in #mythtv, see if he misbehaves there again
[21:30:00] Beirdo: technically, he got banned there too, but Chutt hasn't updated the ban
[21:30:00] j-rod: oh, got it
[21:30:00] ** j-rod off to poke the irc logs... **
[21:31:00] Beirdo: I banned him here, what, 4–5 months ago
[21:32:00] kormoc: likly
[21:32:00] kormoc: nah
[21:32:00] kormoc: it was less
[21:32:00] Beirdo: less? could be
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[21:32:00] kormoc: I seem to recall him right before I moved, a tad over 2 months ago
[21:32:00] Beirdo: anyways, he just privmsged to be unbanned
[21:32:00] Beirdo: heh
[21:32:00] Beirdo: so I fixed his ban
[21:32:00] Beirdo: :)
[21:32:00] kormoc: hehe
[21:32:00] rjune2: when I'm setting up a Hauppage PVR 150MCE, I need to set it up as a mpeg2 encoder device correct?
[21:33:00] Beirdo: rjune2: correct
[21:34:00] j-rod: oh, if its that far back, nm
[21:35:00] j-rod: so what'd he do?
[21:35:00] Beirdo: constantly harassing people
[21:35:00] Beirdo: calling people rude names
[21:35:00] rjune2: does the 150MCE require a specific video driver?
[21:35:00] j-rod: damned 12 year olds
[21:35:00] Beirdo: even after being told several times to shut the fuck up
[21:35:00] Beirdo: so I banned him for a week
[21:36:00] Beirdo: he came back, started again
[21:36:00] Beirdo: so I banned him again, and I see no reason to lift it
[21:36:00] ** j-rod gives the thumbs up **
[21:36:00] Beirdo: and then he went to #mythtv and started being a dick there, and Chutt banned him
[21:36:00] Beirdo: hehe
[21:37:00] Beirdo: I think he told Chutt to go fuck himself and promptly got banned
[21:37:00] Beirdo: hehe
[21:37:00] rjune2: doh
[21:37:00] CyberKnet: hah
[21:37:00] j-rod: not too intelligent, that one...
[21:37:00] kormoc: no, not really
[21:38:00] CyberKnet: I think Chutt would ban you if you so much as told him you thought you found a bug, let alone tell him to go fuck himself =))
[21:38:00] Beirdo: he's actually pretty patient with dumbasses
[21:38:00] j-rod: heh, nah
[21:38:00] CyberKnet: actually, I think he's mellowed somewhat in the past year
[21:38:00] rjune2: he was polite when he told me I couldn't read
[21:38:00] Beirdo: he has a whole bunch of us to run interference and tell people to go to the correct place
[21:39:00] Beirdo: he doesn't have to do it nearly as often as before
[21:40:00] j-rod: M's get 3rd pick in the draft...
[21:40:00] Beirdo: either way. I'll be watching fishhead in #mythtv. if he starts acting human, I might unban him in a couple more months
[21:40:00] j-rod: :)
[21:40:00] Beirdo: over all, this channel's pretty serene
[21:41:00] Beirdo: very few people really need the foot up the ass like in some channels
[21:41:00] j-rod: I've been mostly impressed with the sanity here
[21:41:00] Beirdo: we do go off the deep end once in a while
[21:42:00] j-rod: constant flame-fests are one of the reasons I never really cared for irc much
[21:42:00] Beirdo: yeah
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[21:42:00] j-rod: but pleasantly surprised since I actually started hanging here. :)
[21:42:00] Beirdo: if people can't be civil, they can go elsewhere :)
[21:42:00] Beirdo: or at least do it in /msg :)
[21:43:00] j-rod: "/join #bitchfest"
[21:43:00] Beirdo: yeah
[21:43:00] maniacxs: does somebody knows how to get mythtv making cut positions in a video in the right place?
[21:43:00] Beirdo: it was fun right before the sham of an election
[21:44:00] j-rod: which one?
[21:44:00] Beirdo: maniacxs: not sure what you mean? there's the editor where you can set the cut points wherever you want
[21:44:00] j-rod: or is there only one?
[21:44:00] j-rod: :)
[21:44:00] Beirdo: j-rod: in the US :)
[21:44:00] Beirdo: heh
[21:44:00] j-rod: (US or Canada)
[21:44:00] j-rod: figured
[21:45:00] j-rod: just remembering the fun debate a bit ago about Canadian politics too
[21:45:00] ** Beirdo still holds the view that that election is meaningless as they can't account for a significant number of votes. **
[21:45:00] maniacxs: yes, but the first cut point is about 100 frames too late.
[21:45:00] Beirdo: maniacxs: so move it
[21:45:00] j-rod: my sister has a t-shirt with "FUCK BUSH" scrawled on it
[21:45:00] j-rod: she wears it to school
[21:45:00] Beirdo: heh, yeah, Canadian politics is always fun
[21:45:00] j-rod: (she's 17)
[21:46:00] Beirdo: j-rod: good for her :)
[21:46:00] j-rod: none of the teachers complain
[21:46:00] j-rod: I couldn't name all five Canadian provinces.
[21:46:00] Beirdo: I woulda gone with Buck Fush
[21:46:00] Beirdo: hehe
[21:46:00] j-rod: (yes, I know there are more than five. :)
[21:46:00] Beirdo: try 10 provinces, 3 territories
[21:46:00] maniacxs: i am using the cut ability of mythtv i put the place where it have to cut in the right place. but the frames from the database (the same one used by nuvexport) are not, where i cutted it in the video.
[21:47:00] Beirdo: maniacxs: dunno, it works for me in nuvexport
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[21:47:00] xris: maniacxs: mpeg4?
[21:48:00] maniacxs: no -> dvd
[21:48:00] xris: no. the source file
[21:48:00] Beirdo: politically, expecting people to think their preconceptions through logically seems to be too much to ask of Americans
[21:48:00] ** j-rod must go chill in the server room for a bit... **
[21:48:00] j-rod: true dat
[21:48:00] maniacxs: nuv -> mpeg2
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[21:48:00] xris: maniacxs: what KIND of nuv?
[21:48:00] j-rod: lots of REALLY stupid Americans...
[21:49:00] maniacxs: it's from a dvb-s card with no hw encoding
[21:49:00] xris: maniacxs: that doesn't help. is it mpeg4, rtjpeg, mpeg2 source?
[21:49:00] Beirdo: I'm sure xris remembers the fun... Eszenia calling me a commie because I didn't agree with his narrow view. Meanwhile... I'm conservative :)
[21:49:00] shibz: I am having problems getting mythfrontend working on my xbox. When I try to start it, in the terminal it says "New DB connection, total:1" and then freezes up
[21:49:00] ** j-rod *is* American, for those that don't know **
[21:49:00] xris: shibz: -v all
[21:50:00] ** Beirdo is proudly Canadian. **
[21:50:00] Beirdo: we have our share of stupid people too
[21:50:00] ** xris is unfortunately a USian **
[21:50:00] ** CyberKnet is oz living in the usa and agrees **
[21:50:00] maniacxs: xris: mpeg2 (pes)
[21:50:00] j-rod: os?
[21:50:00] j-rod: oz?
[21:50:00] shibz: -v all didn't change anything
[21:50:00] xris: j-rod: au
[21:50:00] Beirdo: but both of xris and j-rod are from the PNW, so we'll forgive them.
[21:50:00] CyberKnet: australian
[21:50:00] j-rod: ah
[21:50:00] j-rod: duh
[21:50:00] shibz: no new messages
[21:50:00] kormoc: what bout myself?
[21:50:00] j-rod: PNW is mostly sane...
[21:51:00] xris: maniacxs: maybe the mythtranscode bug happens on those files, too.. have you tried nuvexport --transcode ?
[21:51:00] j-rod: bbiaw
[21:51:00] Beirdo: kormoc: you'll have to live there for a bit :) then your remaining US-ness might just rub off
[21:51:00] ** kormoc laughs **
[21:51:00] kormoc: fair nuff :P
[21:51:00] xris: kormoc, you are NOT from the PNW.. you haven't even lived here 3 months yet.
[21:51:00] xris: you still have a PA accent, too. heh.
[21:51:00] kormoc: Beirdo, I have spent a large admount of time in Vancouver too ya know :P
[21:51:00] kormoc: I do?
[21:51:00] maniacxs: xris:yes. the nuvexport transcodes the files.
[21:52:00] xris: maniacxs: no, I'm saying that there has been an issue with mythtranscode not properly honoring cutlists when sending stuff to nuvexport.
[21:52:00] Beirdo: although, to be honest, most Americans with enough brainpower to run myth will have enough brainpower to think their political ideals through. mostly
[21:52:00] shibz: adding -v all didn't give my any new output, it still has the DB connect message
[21:52:00] xris: transcode (as opposed to ffmpeg) uses its own cutlist routine.
[21:52:00] Beirdo: even if people don't agree, they should be able to be civil about it :)
[21:52:00] maniacxs: ok i try it
[21:53:00] xris: shibz: than strace is probably next, but it'll only help you if you know how to read the output yourself.
[21:53:00] shibz: if I delete mysql.txt, it loads fine and adks for the backend settings again, but after I put them in it crashes
[21:53:00] shibz: aaw
[21:53:00] xris: shibz: firewall?
[21:53:00] shibz: i don't think so
[21:53:00] shibz: on backend there isn't one
[21:54:00] xris: distro on the backend?
[21:54:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: I would like to politely disagree =P
[21:54:00] shibz: backend = knoppmyth
[21:54:00] shibz: I am able to connect to backend on this computer
[21:54:00] shibz: just not on my xbox
[21:54:00] wolog: shibz: try connecting to mysql server from command line
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[21:56:00] shibz: hmmm, if i try to connect from command line, it freezes up after asking for my password
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[21:56:00] xris: shibz: manually via mysql? that's what made me think of a firewall.. it's acting like dropped (as opposed to rejected) packets.
[21:57:00] wolog: does networking works between xbox and backend ?
[21:57:00] shibz: they are both connected to the same router
[21:57:00] wolog: maybe try something very simple, like a netcat
[21:58:00] Beirdo: CyberKnet: you're just disagreeable :)
[21:58:00] shibz: i think the problem is with the backend, im gonna restart it
[21:58:00] shibz: i tried ftping to fackend from xbox and it freezes too
[21:58:00] j-rod: ping?
[21:58:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: oh, the irony... =)
[21:59:00] Beirdo: hehe
[21:59:00] xris: shibz: you sure it's freezing and not just getting stuck waiting for a response?
[21:59:00] shibz: it pings it fine
[21:59:00] ** Beirdo wonders where CyberKnet's pet sheep is hiding... **
[21:59:00] xris: it just sounds similar to redhat's SELinux stuff.
[21:59:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: she's at work
[21:59:00] wolog: shibz: router ? don't you have some rules preventing network traffic from backend to xbox ?
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[21:59:00] rjune2: how do I find out which encoder chip my tuner card uses? I have a Hauppage PVR 150, and when I tell ivtv that it's type 2 my machine locks
[22:00:00] xris: rjune2: dmesg
[22:00:00] xris: or rather, remove all ivtv options from your modules|modprobe.conf file and load ivtv, then check dmesg.
[22:00:00] j-rod: rjune2: huh? why are you trying to tell it what your encoder chip is?
[22:00:00] rjune2: xris, Ah
[22:01:00] rjune2: j-rod, because that HOWTO says that
[22:01:00] kormoc: autodetection is good
[22:01:00] j-rod: what kormoc said
[22:01:00] j-rod: everything should be auto-detected now
[22:01:00] j-rod: are you talking about the little HOWTO ck put in the tarball?
[22:01:00] shibz: aah i found the problem, backend froze up
[22:01:00] xris: j-rod: except for those of us stuck using old versions of ivtv
[22:01:00] j-rod: ah
[22:02:00] j-rod: true
[22:02:00] xris: svideo is still broken post 0.3.2y
[22:02:00] j-rod: but auto-detection should work w/ 0.3.2y
[22:02:00] j-rod: I'm about 900 messages behind on the ivtv-dev list right now
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[22:02:00] j-rod: haven't looked at that box in like two weeks
[22:02:00] j-rod: (or more)
[22:03:00] xris: well, guess I didn't bother with auto detection.
[22:03:00] j-rod: we need more ip kvms here
[22:03:00] j-rod: really kicks ass to get console access remotely
[22:04:00] shibz: anyone here know a lot about rambus ram?
[22:04:00] j-rod: but we don't have it on all our stuff yet
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[22:04:00] shibz: i just installed 2 sticks in my backend and they are different brand from the 2 sticks that were already in there, should it matter?
[22:04:00] j-rod: which all prefaces me having to run back to the server room
[22:04:00] rjune2: wow that was cool
[22:04:00] rjune2: did modprobe ivtv and the box locked
[22:05:00] rjune2: xris, good idea. but no love
[22:05:00] xris: rjune2: which driver version?
[22:05:00] rjune2: 0.2.0
[22:05:00] xris: for a pvr-150? you need the unstable branch.
[22:06:00] xris: upgrade
[22:06:00] rjune2: Ah
[22:06:00] rjune2: joy
[22:06:00] xris: you also need to make sure that you have the firmware, etc.
[22:07:00] rjune2: using the atrpms stuff, that explains why the 150 don't work
[22:07:00] Beirdo: CyberKnet: I'll so have to quote you on that
[22:07:00] rjune2: ok, thanks for the info, prolly a weekend project
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[22:08:00] xris: rjune: well, atrpms will have the firmware. and the devel drivers are in "bleeding"
[22:08:00] xris: but compiling by hand is really easy.
[22:11:00] xris: j-rod: you need kvm's like the blade server has. built-in vnc server
[22:11:00] xris: (and java vnc client on the web page)
[22:12:00] j-rod: that would be nifty
[22:12:00] ** Beirdo vncs to xris' car to see what else is in the parking lot **
[22:12:00] j-rod: what we've got is avocent AV2000R kvm switches
[22:12:00] j-rod: gotta use their client, but it runs fine on my FC4 box
[22:13:00] xris: lol, like my POS car has anything remotely internet-capable in it.
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[22:14:00] j-rod: rjune2, a pvr-150 works fine with atrpms stuff if you follow directions
[22:14:00] ** j-rod uses atrpms stuff w/a pvr-150 and pvr-500 **
[22:14:00] ** j-rod also wrote directions on how to do it **
[22:14:00] j-rod: :)
[22:14:00] Beirdo: hehe
[22:14:00] CyberKnet: *yawn*
[22:14:00] ** xris agrees with j-rod. I'm just cursed. **
[22:15:00] Beirdo: it's the nordic blood cursing you
[22:15:00] j-rod: *should* work fine, anyhow
[22:15:00] Beirdo: threaten it with your axe, maybe it will get the idea
[22:16:00] j-rod: I find that generall works well, but sometimes a hatchet is better
[22:16:00] ** kormoc perfers a 9 volt battery. **
[22:16:00] kormoc: work card, or I shall slowly burn you out!
[22:16:00] Beirdo: oh, I think xris' axe would be a good deterrent
[22:17:00] Beirdo: start working, or I'll hack you into little bits!
[22:17:00] j-rod: but really, I prefer a good woody
[22:17:00] j-rod: North Carolina Ash
[22:17:00] ** kormoc laughs **
[22:17:00] j-rod: though I've seen some nice maple ones lately
[22:18:00] Beirdo: hhehe
[22:18:00] Beirdo: I prefer a good woody once in a while too
[22:18:00] j-rod: woody, of course, meaning wood bat, for those not in the club. :)
[22:18:00] Beirdo: yeah
[22:18:00] ** kormoc was hoppin. **
[22:18:00] CyberKnet: j-rod: it's okay. we're aware of Beirdo's problem =)
[22:18:00] j-rod: :D
[22:19:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: inchworm
[22:19:00] CyberKnet: =)
[22:19:00] Beirdo: bah
[22:19:00] Beirdo: sheep fscker
[22:19:00] CyberKnet: double bah
[22:19:00] CyberKnet: hah!
[22:19:00] ** kormoc laughs **
[22:19:00] CyberKnet: hey, at least I have the woody to do it =)
[22:19:00] Beirdo: hehe
[22:19:00] kormoc: so that's how you get them close enough?
[22:19:00] xris: Beirdo: aussies use sheep-based storage?
[22:19:00] CyberKnet: and that's enough of that topic. back to the baseball =)
[22:19:00] ** Beirdo should buy a new bat... **
[22:20:00] Beirdo: xris: yeah, I think so. they don't use RAM, they use EWE
[22:20:00] xris: lol
[22:20:00] ** j-rod should buy a new shoulder **
[22:20:00] Beirdo: anyways
[22:20:00] CyberKnet: I dunno. a little ramdisk now and then is okay
[22:20:00] ** xris whacks beirdo in PUNishment. **
[22:20:00] j-rod: mine is sore
[22:20:00] Beirdo: the last good bat I had, someone stole
[22:21:00] j-rod: last good wood I had broke in a game
[22:21:00] CyberKnet: aah dear god, the puns...
[22:21:00] Beirdo: hehe
[22:21:00] CyberKnet: they're everywhere
[22:21:00] CyberKnet: j-rod: you been throwing much lately?
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[22:21:00] Beirdo: yeah, I had a few good white smears down on the handle (black bat)
[22:21:00] j-rod: haven't been throwing often enough, then cranked it up all the way
[22:22:00] Beirdo: but almost all right out about 4" from the end
[22:22:00] j-rod: very sore
[22:22:00] CyberKnet: j-rod: ouch :|
[22:22:00] Beirdo: then some dillhole stole it
[22:22:00] j-rod: but my velocity is still really good
[22:22:00] Beirdo: I hope it broke on them right quick
[22:22:00] j-rod: just no stamina and recovery takes forever
[22:22:00] ** CyberKnet throws like a girl **
[22:22:00] ** kormoc throws like a geek. **
[22:22:00] ** Beirdo runs like a fatass... **
[22:23:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: about the same thing right there =)
[22:23:00] Beirdo: that's why you learn to hit HARD... let requirement to run :)
[22:23:00] kormoc: :P
[22:23:00] j-rod: well, I'm a geek...
[22:23:00] Beirdo: less rather
[22:23:00] ** xris throws axes well enough. **
[22:23:00] j-rod: but I throw like a baseball player
[22:23:00] CyberKnet: j-rod: undoubtedly. that's why I said "about". heh
[22:23:00] j-rod: :)
[22:23:00] Beirdo: I remember in public school cranking them right over the school and hitting the teachers' cars
[22:24:00] Beirdo: that was fun
[22:24:00] j-rod: hell yeah
[22:24:00] ** CyberKnet wonders if when j-rod makes the majors he'll disown us all **
[22:24:00] Beirdo: until I dented my dad's car
[22:24:00] Beirdo: hehe
[22:24:00] j-rod: heh, I think that boat sailed long ago
[22:24:00] Beirdo: he taught at my school
[22:24:00] Beirdo: ooops
[22:24:00] j-rod: was on the radar of a few scouts in college, then got injured sr. year
[22:24:00] CyberKnet: j-rod: you haven't seen The Rookie? =P
[22:24:00] j-rod: there would be that...
[22:24:00] j-rod: (yeah, seen it)
[22:25:00] j-rod: but he was a lefty that threw even harder than I do
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[22:25:00] CyberKnet: j-rod: I had a friend like that. Got shot in the elbow snr year. was heartbreaking for him
[22:25:00] j-rod: the bigs already have a glut of righties that throw around 90
[22:25:00] j-rod: I blew out my ankle
[22:25:00] Beirdo: one of these days i should teach my brain to hit hardball rather than softball
[22:25:00] Beirdo: cranking the softballs is SOoooo easy
[22:26:00] j-rod: heh, my *very first* pitch in four years, I absolutely DRILLED a guy
[22:26:00] Beirdo: nice.
[22:26:00] CyberKnet: j-rod: wtg =)
[22:26:00] Beirdo: first pitch, and you nail someone... did he rush the mound?
[22:26:00] CyberKnet: must be nice to pitch in the 90s =)
[22:26:00] j-rod: hell no, he limped to first
[22:26:00] j-rod: :)
[22:26:00] Beirdo: and then spit in your beer later, I bet
[22:27:00] CyberKnet: hah
[22:27:00] Beirdo: ah well
[22:27:00] Beirdo: baseball's a fun sport
[22:27:00] j-rod: piper's pale ale that evening, followed by some black and tan they had on tap
[22:27:00] Beirdo: and I didn't make it out to a game on the weekend
[22:27:00] Beirdo: crap, blah
[22:27:00] j-rod: piper's was so-so
[22:27:00] Beirdo: I was hoping to go Sunday, so I didn't go Saturday
[22:27:00] j-rod: black and tan was good
[22:28:00] Beirdo: then Sunday was sucky and cold and I didn't feel like it
[22:28:00] j-rod: weather was pretty shitty up in Victoria, which didn't help my arm any
[22:28:00] CyberKnet: sunday was hot as hell here
[22:28:00] j-rod: took forever to warm up, then it tightened up real quick
[22:28:00] Beirdo: screwing up your shoulder not good
[22:29:00] j-rod: nope
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[22:29:00] j-rod: rotator is fine though
[22:29:00] Beirdo: oh good
[22:29:00] ** kormoc wants a detachable shoulder. **
[22:29:00] j-rod: full range of motion still
[22:29:00] Beirdo: whew
[22:29:00] j-rod: seems like just a strain
[22:29:00] Beirdo: still painful and sucky, but could be a whole lot worse
[22:30:00] j-rod: only hurts when going from full extension of my arm behind me toward the target
[22:30:00] CyberKnet: j-rod: so do you payto play, or do they pay you to play?
[22:30:00] j-rod: pay to play this time
[22:30:00] CyberKnet: nothing wrong with that, btw
[22:30:00] j-rod: nope
[22:30:00] Beirdo: of course there's nothing wrong with it :)
[22:30:00] j-rod: gotta cover league costs and all that
[22:30:00] kormoc: sure there is! it's wrong to do anything one enjoys! give me yourr money!!!
[22:30:00] j-rod: and we certainly aren't selling tickets
[22:31:00] CyberKnet: Just wanted to make sure nobody thought I was inferring there was =)
[22:31:00] Beirdo: now, selling your wife on the street corner to play... now there's something wrong with that
[22:31:00] j-rod: hey, you break it, you buy it...
[22:31:00] CyberKnet: Beirdo: yes. yes there is. it's illegal =P"
[22:31:00] j-rod: oh wait...
[22:31:00] Beirdo: hehe
[22:31:00] j-rod: I'd have a hard time selling a five-month-pregnant woman anyhow
[22:31:00] kormoc: CyberKnet, reread what Beirdo said...
[22:32:00] kormoc: j-rod, nah, two for one! what a investment!
[22:32:00] Beirdo: heh
[22:32:00] Beirdo: j-rod: there are all kinds of sick freaks out there, I wouldn't bet on that
[22:32:00] CyberKnet: kormoc: I was inferring there are no ethical issues with it, going for the +1 Funny
[22:32:00] kormoc: CyberKnet, heh
[22:33:00] CyberKnet: It seems instead I got the -1 Overrated. heh
[22:33:00] Beirdo: anyways, I'm going home
[22:33:00] CyberKnet: adios
[22:33:00] Beirdo: seeya guys in a bit
[22:34:00] kormoc: CyberKnet, I'm a tired kormoc, tis cool :P
[22:34:00] ** kormoc waves to Beirdo **
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[22:44:00] pyrodex: I am rebuilding my mythtv box and alsa is giving me a issue, i setup my .asoundrc file and cant get /dev/mixer to work right, its mythfrontend is giving me the following error: Mixer attach error -2: No such file or directory
[22:44:00] pyrodex: Check Mixer Name in Setup: /dev/mixe
[22:44:00] kormoc: mixe? nice.
[22:44:00] pyrodex: That got cut off
[22:44:00] pyrodex: its says /dev/mixer
[22:45:00] pyrodex: ALSA lib control.c:739:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL /dev/mixer
[22:45:00] ** kormoc starts singing, 'Mixe the Mixer, was a very lovely mixer, a very lovely mixer who is too lazy to mix any sound...' **
[22:45:00] pyrodex: There is another error
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[22:47:00] pyrodex: hmm ok i think i fixed it.
[22:48:00] pyrodex: yea I did
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[23:01:00] jasoncohen: GreyFoxx, thanks for your help yesterday. I installed eventd, set F10 to start mythfrontend and then bound eventd to /dev/input/event0. it works perfectly.
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[23:08:00] rjune: xris: thnks for everything
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[23:09:00] abarbaccia: hey all – im having some issues with mythDVD
[23:10:00] abarbaccia: when i try to put many movies in a queue – it tells me "my myth transcoding daemon has went away" — any ideas
[23:12:00] Cardoe: abarbaccia: ps aux
[23:12:00] Cardoe: has it?
[23:12:00] abarbaccia: nope
[23:12:00] abarbaccia: not running anymore
[23:12:00] abarbaccia: and it refuses to start because it can't bind to the port
[23:12:00] abarbaccia: maybe theres a max of 6 movies to be burned in the queue
[23:15:00] abarbaccia: urgh – frusturating
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[23:15:00] abarbaccia: im going to see if it'll go through with the rest of my transcodes or not
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[23:15:00] abarbaccia: one was susposed to be done in an hour
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[23:15:00] abarbaccia: so i'll check back in 2 hours and see if transcode is working on the next one
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[23:20:00] Cardoe: test it with debug
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[23:27:00] darkfire: i am having a problem with the MythTV configuration. I had it working through my PVR-350's tv output, but then something happened, and now, even though the option for the PVR-350 is still checked (i've tried unchecking it and then rechecking, to no avail,) mythTV tries to display the output on my monitor, which causes it to segfault when using ivtv-fb. Where does mythtv store the configuration info, or are there an
[23:27:00] darkfire: y other pointers someone could give me to try and figure this out?
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[23:30:00] bomba: what does the ever informative textual output say it is doin?
[23:30:00] bomba: "Using the PVR-350 decoder/TV-out
[23:31:00] bomba: "?
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[23:32:00] darkfire: 2005-05–25 18:32:20.694 Opening audio device '/dev/dsp'.
[23:32:00] darkfire: 2005-05–25 18:32:20.694 Opening OSS audio device '/dev/dsp'.
[23:32:00] darkfire: 2005-05–25 18:32:20.701 Using XV port 232
[23:32:00] darkfire: i just tried to watch live tv, and it used the PVR-350 correctly
[23:33:00] darkfire: then i tried to watch a recording made with myth, and it did taht
[23:33:00] darkfire: that
[23:33:00] bomba: has the recording been transcoded?
[23:33:00] darkfire: yes
[23:33:00] bomba: okay
[23:33:00] bomba: so the 350 is an MPEG2 decoder
[23:34:00] bomba: so it only decodes MPEG2
[23:34:00] darkfire: hrmm, i'm guessing mythtv doesnt transcode back to mpeg2 like i had thought it did then?
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[23:35:00] bomba: why even use a hardware decoder in that casE?
[23:36:00] bigslam: can someone help me on this motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813152052 do u think its good?
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[23:36:00] bomba: you are already completely uncompressing the video and recompressing it
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[23:36:00] darkfire: you know, when you put it that way, it kinda makes me feel like an idiot.
[23:36:00] darkfire: heh
[23:37:00] bomba: What I did was set up a 1TB lvm partition and keep everything in MPEG2
[23:37:00] darkfire: new question: can mythtv transcode back to mpeg2 on request, or what would be the easiest way to do that?
[23:38:00] kormoc: set the transcode profile to mpeg2 and it will transcode back to mpeg2
[23:38:00] darkfire: i thought the 'mpeg2' transcode profile transcoded FROM mpeg2?
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[23:40:00] darkfire: heh, i don't usually ask for help and then feel as if i missed the main sections of the manual, but it would seem there's a first for everything.
[23:42:00] bigslam: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814145118 is there any differents from theses and say the nvidia?
[23:44:00] kormoc: bigslam, it is a nvidia card, what are you asking?
[23:44:00] bigslam: HAINTECH SA62A-256 Video Card – Retail
[23:44:00] bigslam: CHAINTECH SA62A-256 Video Card – Retail
[23:45:00] darkfire: hipset
[23:45:00] darkfire: GPU Geforce 6200
[23:45:00] darkfire: powered by Nvidia
[23:45:00] bigslam: hmm ok so its the same just with a different brand or company?
[23:45:00] darkfire: afaik nvidia doesnt make whole cards, just the chips, right?
[23:45:00] kormoc: bigslam, they are both nvidia cards. You see, Nvidia doesn't make any cards themselves, they make chips and others make cards
[23:45:00] bigslam: oh
[23:46:00] kormoc: righto darkfire
[23:46:00] bigslam: hmm news to me
[23:46:00] kormoc: bigslam, tis how it's always been.
[23:46:00] bigslam: so do u guys think it will run on linux?
[23:46:00] darkfire: ::shrug::
[23:46:00] kormoc: any nvidia card will run on linux, reguardless of the brand.
[23:46:00] darkfire: my nvidia does.
[23:46:00] bigslam: one more thing
[23:46:00] bigslam: do u guys think it will be a good card?
[23:46:00] bigslam: for mythtv
[23:46:00] kormoc: chaintech, gainward, evga, bfg, etc, they all use the nvidia drivers.
[23:46:00] kormoc: it's overkill for mythtv
[23:47:00] Beirdo: hah
[23:47:00] bigslam: k i will get it
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[23:47:00] Beirdo: unless you start doing HD
[23:47:00] bigslam: i dont have an hdtv:/
[23:47:00] kormoc: Beirdo, it should do hd perfectly fine.
[23:47:00] kormoc: no?
[23:47:00] Beirdo: then it's slight overkill :)
[23:47:00] Beirdo: rather than massive overkill :)
[23:47:00] bigslam: only slightly damn
[23:47:00] kormoc: hehe, fair nuff :)
[23:47:00] bigslam: hmm im thinking about getting 4GB of ram
[23:48:00] bigslam: but i might go with 2GB
[23:48:00] kormoc: any reason?
[23:48:00] Beirdo: I plan on going with a 6600GT as my HD-capable card
[23:48:00] darkfire: money to burn?
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[23:48:00] bigslam: i dont want ahh FPS shit going down or lag
[23:48:00] kormoc: does your mobo even support 4 gigs of nonevv ram?
[23:48:00] bigslam: im going to buy a 64bit mobo
[23:48:00] kormoc: *nonecc
[23:48:00] Beirdo: Hmm, let's see if I can call Cingular's 888 number from here :)
[23:48:00] kormoc: ahh
[23:48:00] bigslam: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813152052
[23:49:00] bigslam: thats the one im going to get
[23:49:00] Beirdo: yup :)
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[23:49:00] bigslam: but then i need a soundcard
[23:49:00] BattousaiX: Beirdo, you're the most active IRC member I've ever seen.
[23:49:00] darkfire: kormoc, what menu would i select mpeg 2 as my transcoding profile under?
[23:50:00] bigslam: i want 8 channels
[23:50:00] kormoc: darkfire, not sure, myth's setup is a maze to myself, but it's there somewhere...
[23:51:00] rpete: setup->setup->tvsettings->recordingprofiles
[23:51:00] Beirdo: heheh'
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[23:51:00] Beirdo: I bet I can't normally call this from Canada'
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[23:52:00] Beirdo: Us-based VoIP is great
[23:52:00] darkfire: rpete, that menu does not allow me to set MPEG2 as the codec to transcode TO, just mpeg4 and rtjpeg
[23:52:00] kormoc: here ya go bigslam, http://www.pcuniverse.com/product.asp?pid=3046851&m_id=32
[23:53:00] rpete: darkfire, did you look under "Transcoders" ?
[23:53:00] darkfire: of course
[23:54:00] darkfire: there is a FROM mpeg2, but no way to specify a TO mpeg2
[23:54:00] rpete: you select from codec, then set to
[23:54:00] darkfire: unless i am just not seeing it
[23:55:00] rpete: if mpeg2 isn't an option, then it cannot do it
[23:55:00] Beirdo: Cingular still rocks
[23:55:00] Beirdo: :)
[23:55:00] Beirdo: I did this when I was in Santa Barbara (when they were still PacBell Wireless) too
[23:55:00] Beirdo: bring an unlocked GSM phone, get pre-paid service, avoid the roaming fee ass-rapage
[23:56:00] Beirdo: 10c/min rather than 99c/min roaming
[23:56:00] Beirdo: not much of a thought-process needed there
[23:56:00] Beirdo: and yes, I should be able to do so :)
[23:56:00] Beirdo: w00t
[23:57:00] gnarface: anyone good with C in here?
[23:57:00] kormoc: bigslam, I really recommend that card, it rocks!
[23:57:00] rpete: darkfire, I think you may have to live with nuvexport or nuv2avi
[23:57:00] rpete: probably not the latter, actually
[23:57:00] bigslam: the video card?
[23:58:00] darkfire: rpete, well, what i want to do is transcode it to mpeg2, but not export it, i want to leave it playable, etc, in mythtv, just under mpeg2
[23:58:00] bigslam: oh
[23:58:00] bigslam: the sound card
[23:58:00] bigslam: ummm
[23:58:00] Beirdo: anyone know which side of Nashville the airport is on?
[23:58:00] rpete: darkfire, doesn't look like that's an option
[23:58:00] bigslam: hmm kormoc its $1k
[23:58:00] darkfire: yeah, actually
[23:58:00] darkfire: lemme think Beirdo
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[23:58:00] kormoc: bigslam, yeah? you wanted a good card, no?
[23:58:00] darkfire: where are you coming from?
[23:58:00] bigslam: lol sure
[23:59:00] Beirdo: I'm flying in
[23:59:00] bigslam: do u have that card?
[23:59:00] Beirdo: I just wanna know where in the city the airport is :)
[23:59:00] kormoc: nope, I can't afford it :)
[23:59:00] kormoc: but oh, if I could...
[23:59:00] bigslam: hmm

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