| Friday, May 20th, 2005, 00:01 UTC | ||
| [00:01:00] | gnarface: | 0.7.1 |
| [00:01:00] | gnarface: | i don't get how to set it up though. |
| [00:02:00] | gnarface: | all the documentation on transmitters is for serial transmitters |
| [00:02:00] | gnarface: | this is usb |
| [00:02:00] | gnarface: | i can't even figure out which driver to use |
| [00:02:00] | gnarface: | its extra confusing because the hauppage remotes need you to compile lirc --with-driver=hauppage or something like that.... but the parameter only seems to be for one option |
| [00:03:00] | gnarface: | you can use --with-driver=any but that didn't seem to change anything for me. i can't find any references to the usb-uirt in the setup script |
| [00:11:00] | Agrajag-: | mornin |
| [00:11:00] | gnarface: | 'morning :) |
| [00:11:00] | Agrajag-: | lol still here gnarface |
| [00:11:00] | Agrajag-: | you were here 12 hours ago asking about usb-uirt :/ |
| [00:11:00] | gnarface: | yea. i took a nap. |
| [00:11:00] | gnarface: | still trying to figure it out though. |
| [00:12:00] | gnarface: | so far everything else seems to work though. |
| [00:12:00] | gnarface: | so that's the last part. |
| [00:12:00] | gnarface: | then i will be the mythmasta |
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| [00:16:00] | gnarface: | lol |
| [00:16:00] | gnarface: | everyone has seen this right? |
| [00:17:00] | gnarface: | http://www.funroll-loops.org/ |
| [00:17:00] | Beirdo: | of course :) |
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| [00:19:00] | Agrajag-: | Gentoo Linux causes global warming! Needlessly recompiling everything uses power. Fossil fuels are used to generate that power. Hug a tree, use Debian! |
| [00:19:00] | Agrajag-: | http://bash.org/?464385 |
| [00:20:00] | ethics: | morning... |
| [00:20:00] | gnarface: | hehe. |
| [00:20:00] | gnarface: | 'morning :) |
| [00:22:00] | ethics: | Agrajag-, i managed to get my pvr-150 working last night but the picture is substandard atm....i dont think its cableing but im going to try playing around with them anyway to confirm.....is there anything other than tuning i could do to make the picture notiblely cleaner? |
| [00:22:00] | Agrajag-: | no idea i dont use pvr-* |
| [00:23:00] | gnarface: | turn the capture res up ethics |
| [00:24:00] | gnarface: | does anyone know how much it would cost to have your bellybutton surgically removed? |
| [00:24:00] | Beirdo: | WTF? |
| [00:24:00] | gnarface: | seriously |
| [00:24:00] | gnarface: | i wanna get rid of mine |
| [00:26:00] | Agrajag-: | rofl |
| [00:26:00] | ethics: | gnarface, : cool ill play with it hehe.... |
| [00:26:00] | ethics: | gnarface, on the bellybutton aspect....umm why? |
| [00:28:00] | gnarface: | *shrug* |
| [00:28:00] | gnarface: | why not? |
| [00:28:00] | gnarface: | its in the way |
| [00:28:00] | gnarface: | its a blemish |
| [00:28:00] | gnarface: | and i could make a lot of money betting drunk people |
| [00:29:00] | gnarface: | that and its hard to make the case that you just spontaneously materialized when you have proof of actually having been born. |
| [00:30:00] | ethics: | gnarface, hmm the betting thing has merit.......i wonder where i can get my bellybuTTon removed... |
| [00:30:00] | Agrajag-: | it's in the way? what sort of belly button do you have? |
| [00:30:00] | Beirdo: | well, this ain't #cosmetic-surgery |
| [00:30:00] | Beirdo: | so we wouldn't know :) |
| [00:31:00] | ethics: | gnarface, apparently the right place to as is #cosmetic-surgery |
| [00:31:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [00:31:00] | gnarface: | awesome |
| [00:31:00] | gnarface: | :-p |
| [00:31:00] | Beirdo: | call a cosmetic surgeon, they could likely tell ya |
| [00:31:00] | ethics: | 8) |
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| [00:40:00] | Beirdo: | hey, who let Cardoe in? :) |
| [00:41:00] | Cardoe: | hey Beirdo |
| [00:41:00] | Cardoe: | how's it going? |
| [00:41:00] | Cardoe: | Been pinging you back |
| [00:41:00] | Cardoe: | but timings been hell |
| [00:41:00] | Beirdo: | not too bad... got a bitchy cold |
| [00:41:00] | Cardoe: | my mother's been in the hospital |
| [00:41:00] | Beirdo: | ahhh |
| [00:41:00] | Cardoe: | now I've had to go home to take care of her |
| [00:41:00] | Beirdo: | that's unfortunate |
| [00:41:00] | Cardoe: | But I've going back to my place probably Monday |
| [00:42:00] | Beirdo: | well, take care of yer mom :) |
| [00:42:00] | fryfrog: | crud, someone said my name like 12 hours ago :/ |
| [00:42:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: heh |
| [00:43:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: I just barely managed to squeeze 0.18.1 into Gentoo before disappearing again |
| [00:43:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: and this time I got rid of the previous maintainer's crap |
| [00:43:00] | Cardoe: | and re-wrote the builds myself. |
| [00:43:00] | Beirdo: | well done :) |
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| [00:43:00] | fryfrog: | is there some kb shortcut to scroll back to when someone said your name in irssi? |
| [00:43:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: There's no reason that upstream should not support them then |
| [00:43:00] | fryfrog: | Cardoe: have you re-done the plugin ebuilds? I just moved em to the new name and it worked for mythvideo and myth... |
| [00:43:00] | fryfrog: | Cardoe: something else |
| [00:44:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: I haven't rewritten the plugins |
| [00:44:00] | Cardoe: | just the main build. |
| [00:44:00] | Cardoe: | also there's no more mythfrontend package |
| [00:44:00] | Cardoe: | it's a USE flag on mythtv |
| [00:44:00] | fryfrog: | btw, that creates a fun upgrade/downgrade looop :) |
| [00:44:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: I wrote a new eclass for the plugins |
| [00:44:00] | fryfrog: | all the 0.18 plugins want 0.18 back :) |
| [00:44:00] | Cardoe: | it's called myth-plugins |
| [00:44:00] | fryfrog: | ohhh cool |
| [00:45:00] | Cardoe: | like I said |
| [00:45:00] | Cardoe: | I would have loved to complete all this stuff |
| [00:45:00] | Cardoe: | but I've been a slave here |
| [00:46:00] | fryfrog: | moms come first :) |
| [00:46:00] | Beirdo: | they sure do :) |
| [00:47:00] | Agrajag-: | fryfrog: not sure exactly how to do it with irssi, but in bitchx i make it so whenever someone says my name it logs it to another window |
| [00:48:00] | fryfrog: | oh, that'd prolly be a good idea |
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| [00:51:00] | gnarface: | a ha |
| [00:51:00] | gnarface: | ! |
| [00:51:00] | gnarface: | i know what the problem is |
| [00:51:00] | gnarface: | i don't have any beer! |
| [00:51:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: irssi has a /cmd |
| [00:51:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: that when you use it, it shows you when your name has been said |
| [00:51:00] | Cardoe: | it's the same as xchat's |
| [00:52:00] | Cardoe: | but xchat only shows in the scroll back buffer |
| [00:52:00] | Cardoe: | where as irssi goes back farthre |
| [00:52:00] | fryfrog: | happen to know what the /command is? |
| [00:53:00] | Beirdo: | /rtfm ? |
| [00:54:00] | fryfrog: | i don't even know what you'd call it |
| [00:54:00] | fryfrog: | its hard to search when you don't have a clue about its possible name or title |
| [00:54:00] | Beirdo: | true nuf |
| [00:54:00] | Cardoe: | I think it's like /lastsaid or spoke |
| [00:54:00] | Beirdo: | something about highlighting or something might be a good start |
| [00:55:00] | Cardoe: | name highlighting |
| [00:55:00] | fryfrog: | kk |
| [00:56:00] | Beirdo: | oh, Cardoe... if you feel like beating on someone, find who made the realplayer ebuild and smack them |
| [00:56:00] | Beirdo: | realplayer should NOT require xterm |
| [00:56:00] | Cardoe: | Cardoe !metadata realplayer |
| [00:56:00] | Cardoe: | jeeves Cardoe: Package: media-video/realplayer Herd: media-video Maintainer: media-video |
| [00:56:00] | Cardoe: | does it specifically? |
| [00:56:00] | Cardoe: | or based on it's X depend? |
| [00:56:00] | Beirdo: | not specifically, no |
| [00:56:00] | fryfrog: | Beirdo: are you... trying gentoo? |
| [00:56:00] | Beirdo: | but it insisted on it |
| [00:57:00] | Beirdo: | so I told it to go fuck itself |
| [00:57:00] | fryfrog: | wtf... are you installing gentoo? |
| [00:57:00] | Beirdo: | fryfrog: I've been using gentoo for like 3 months for asterisk |
| [00:57:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: well X requires that you install a term |
| [00:57:00] | Beirdo: | that's fucking retarded |
| [00:57:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: and that's where your term depend comes in |
| [00:57:00] | Beirdo: | you can use X with no terminals |
| [00:57:00] | fryfrog: | what is asterisk? |
| [00:58:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: /etc/portage/package.provided |
| [00:58:00] | Beirdo: | google it |
| [00:58:00] | Cardoe: | echo "x11-terms/xterm" >> /etc/portage/package.provided |
| [00:58:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: and it'll never bother you again |
| [00:58:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: open source PBX |
| [00:58:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [00:58:00] | fryfrog: | i was about to say that :) |
| [00:58:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: trying to setup asterisk in my dad's company |
| [00:58:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: sure sure |
| [00:59:00] | Cardoe: | us developers have faster Portage response times |
| [00:59:00] | fryfrog: | why gentoo for it? |
| [00:59:00] | Beirdo: | and I don't want X anyways |
| [00:59:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: oddly enough... Some people could only get it to work on Gentoo |
| [00:59:00] | Agrajag-: | how are you gonna use realplayer without X |
| [00:59:00] | fryfrog: | so set "USE=-X"? |
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| [00:59:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: get yourself ufed |
| [00:59:00] | Beirdo: | gentoo because I wanted an absolutely mininum setup |
| [00:59:00] | Beirdo: | ufed? |
| [00:59:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: supposidly a friendly USE flag editor |
| [00:59:00] | fryfrog: | ahha, yeah what is realplaer for? |
| [00:59:00] | Beirdo: | oh |
| [01:00:00] | Beirdo: | I have -X |
| [01:00:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: or just |
| [01:00:00] | Beirdo: | but mplayer +real now means to install realplayer (didn't used to) |
| [01:00:00] | Beirdo: | which then requires X, which requires xterm |
| [01:00:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: emerge -av package |
| [01:00:00] | Beirdo: | oh I did |
| [01:01:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: it'll tell you the packages that it's going to pull as depends |
| [01:01:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: as well as the USE flags you can configure |
| [01:01:00] | fryfrog: | how is -av different from -pv or -ptv? |
| [01:02:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: and then say continue yes or no |
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| [01:02:00] | fryfrog: | oh, neat |
| [01:02:00] | fryfrog: | i like "emerge <package> -pv" or -ptv more |
| [01:03:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: using * @ home? |
| [01:03:00] | Beirdo: | yep |
| [01:03:00] | Beirdo: | fuck |
| [01:03:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: the non-RealPlayer libraries stopped working |
| [01:03:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: so it uses the RealPlayer libraries |
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| [01:03:00] | Cardoe: | and the licensing requires us to install the whole RP |
| [01:03:00] | Beirdo: | fucking mplayer REQUIRES realplayer to play the damned realplayer |
| [01:03:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: try it |
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| [01:03:00] | Beirdo: | I hate you all :) |
| [01:03:00] | fryfrog: | i did, neat yes/no :) |
| [01:03:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: we love you too |
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| [01:04:00] | fryfrog: | why do you want to play realplayer files on a PBX? |
| [01:04:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: yeah I found it out a while back |
| [01:04:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [01:04:00] | Cardoe: | saves typing steps |
| [01:04:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: why play realplayer crap? |
| [01:04:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: on hold music |
| [01:04:00] | Beirdo: | fryfrog: streaming audio streams for music on hold |
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| [01:04:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: what's your source? |
| [01:04:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: not possible to transcode? |
| [01:04:00] | Beirdo: | KPLU |
| [01:04:00] | Cardoe: | ah |
| [01:04:00] | Agrajag-: | i say blame gentoo |
| [01:04:00] | Agrajag-: | :) |
| [01:04:00] | Beirdo: | and also BBC and ABC (Australia) |
| [01:04:00] | fryfrog: | BLAME CANADA! |
| [01:05:00] | Beirdo: | so I want realplayer JUST for the damn libs |
| [01:05:00] | Beirdo: | no X |
| [01:05:00] | Beirdo: | I'll fight it again later |
| [01:05:00] | Cardoe: | lemme talk to the guys about the libs only version |
| [01:05:00] | Cardoe: | Cause I too want that |
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| [01:05:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
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| [01:05:00] | fryfrog: | you could just let it compile X |
| [01:05:00] | fryfrog: | so the libs are there, which is all it really needs |
| [01:05:00] | Beirdo: | no, I will NOT emerge X |
| [01:05:00] | Agrajag-: | ahahahah |
| [01:06:00] | fryfrog: | you could build it as a binary package so you can remove it when done |
| [01:06:00] | fryfrog: | and then re-add it later w/o compiling if needed |
| [01:06:00] | fryfrog: | have you "emerge ccache" yet? |
| [01:06:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [01:06:00] | Beirdo: | I tried to use distcc, but it sucks |
| [01:06:00] | Beirdo: | as the other two boxes are different architecture |
| [01:06:00] | Beirdo: | mucho bitchy |
| [01:07:00] | Beirdo: | so right now it all works except playing realaudio, it seems |
| [01:07:00] | Beirdo: | I completely forgot to test it. hehe |
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| [01:08:00] | Beirdo: | so Cardoe, if you can convince a "libs only" for realplayer, let me know :) |
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| [01:10:00] | fryfrog: | whats wrong with just having the X headers? |
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| [01:10:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: will do |
| [01:11:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: one thing you can do |
| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | yeah? |
| [01:11:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: echo "x11-base/xorg-x11" >> /etc/portage/package.provided |
| [01:11:00] | Cardoe: | or |
| [01:11:00] | Cardoe: | better yet |
| [01:11:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: echo "virtual/x11" >> /etc/portage/package.provided |
| [01:11:00] | Cardoe: | and set USE="-X" |
| [01:12:00] | Beirdo: | hmm, not a bad plan |
| [01:12:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm, seems my g729 is borked a bit too |
| [01:12:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [01:12:00] | fryfrog: | what does * use for telephone cards? |
| [01:12:00] | Beirdo: | the g729 destination column is all > 900ms |
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| [01:13:00] | Beirdo: | fryfrog: go read the site :) |
| [01:13:00] | Cardoe: | yeah I was told g729 is gonna be the way to go for corp |
| [01:14:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: important to set both |
| [01:14:00] | Beirdo: | wonder why the encode is that slow now |
| [01:14:00] | Cardoe: | cause if virtual/x11 is "met" |
| [01:14:00] | Cardoe: | then Portage assumes USE="X" |
| [01:14:00] | Beirdo: | I have had USE=-X since day one |
| [01:15:00] | fryfrog: | what are you going to use? |
| [01:15:00] | Beirdo: | hmm? |
| [01:15:00] | Beirdo: | what are you talking about? |
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| [01:15:00] | Beirdo: | X and asterisk are a BAD combination |
| [01:15:00] | fryfrog: | sorry, i mean what phone interface hardware are you going to use? |
| [01:16:00] | Beirdo: | and that box runs on serial console :) no monitor |
| [01:16:00] | Beirdo: | going to? |
| [01:16:00] | Beirdo: | I've been running it for months |
| [01:16:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [01:16:00] | Beirdo: | X100 clones |
| [01:16:00] | Beirdo: | and SPA-2100, SPA-3000 |
| [01:16:00] | fryfrog: | 20:10 <+mindless> fryfrog, if you change isOptional in install/InstallStep.class to 'return true;' |
| [01:16:00] | fryfrog: | crap |
| [01:16:00] | fryfrog: | "Wildcard X100P" clones? |
| [01:17:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [01:17:00] | fryfrog: | cool |
| [01:17:00] | Beirdo: | they are cheap on ebay... and crappy |
| [01:17:00] | fryfrog: | how much are they? |
| [01:17:00] | fryfrog: | oh, its just a modem? |
| [01:17:00] | Beirdo: | it's a DSP :) |
| [01:18:00] | fryfrog: | ahhhh |
| [01:18:00] | Beirdo: | the clones are very specific modems that use that DSP |
| [01:19:00] | fryfrog: | ahh |
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| [01:22:00] | rtsai: | set join_new_window on |
| [01:22:00] | rtsai: | set join_new_window on |
| [01:22:00] | fryfrog: | so instead of picking up and dialing, they just pick up and act as phone sound cards? |
| [01:22:00] | fryfrog: | kinda? |
| [01:22:00] | Beirdo: | kinda |
| [01:23:00] | rtsai is now known as rtsai1111 | |
| [01:23:00] | fryfrog: | how does the wiring in your house work? |
| [01:23:00] | fryfrog: | or do you just use it for like one phone? |
| [01:23:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: what cards do you have? |
| [01:23:00] | Beirdo: | asked and answered, Cardoe :) |
| [01:23:00] | ** Cardoe wants a cheap ATA ** | |
| [01:23:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: sorry been away |
| [01:23:00] | Beirdo: | I run my phones on Sipura devices |
| [01:24:00] | Beirdo: | and have X100 clones |
| [01:24:00] | Beirdo: | which suck |
| [01:24:00] | Beirdo: | they work, but damn they suck |
| [01:25:00] | fryfrog: | in what way do they suck? |
| [01:25:00] | Beirdo: | the phones are connected to the sipura devices which are bridged over 802.11g :) |
| [01:25:00] | Beirdo: | echo, etc |
| [01:25:00] | fryfrog: | ah |
| [01:25:00] | Beirdo: | go read up :) |
| [01:25:00] | Beirdo: | voip-info.org is your friend |
| [01:27:00] | Cardoe: | now why couldn't the ./configure script for plugins support --compile-type=debug/release like the mythtv one does? |
| [01:27:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: so the X100 clones suck or the wireless type sucks? |
| [01:27:00] | Beirdo: | x100 |
| [01:27:00] | Beirdo: | the sipura devices are standard SIP -> ethernet ATAs |
| [01:27:00] | Beirdo: | I bridge them using WRT54G |
| [01:29:00] | Cardoe: | grrr |
| [01:29:00] | Cardoe: | I'm about to cut a large portion of the freaking configure script from mythtv into mythplugins |
| [01:29:00] | Cardoe: | and send that in as a patch |
| [01:29:00] | Beirdo: | have fun :) |
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| [01:30:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: seriously though |
| [01:30:00] | Cardoe: | why couldn't that have been in there |
| [01:30:00] | Cardoe: | the release/debug |
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| [01:30:00] | Cardoe: | the mmx stuff |
| [01:30:00] | Cardoe: | it's already coded. |
| [01:30:00] | fryfrog: | thanks, i will |
| [01:30:00] | Cardoe: | it was a simple copy and paste. |
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| [01:30:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, well |
| [01:30:00] | Beirdo: | they likely ran out of time |
| [01:31:00] | Beirdo: | damn, I need food |
| [01:31:00] | Beirdo: | but I dunno what to get |
| [01:31:00] | fryfrog: | pizza! |
| [01:32:00] | Beirdo: | cheese + congestion = more congestion |
| [01:33:00] | Beirdo: | and I already made that mistake today |
| [01:33:00] | Beirdo: | I had lasagna at lunch |
| [01:33:00] | Beirdo: | hmm, I'll think about it |
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| [01:36:00] | Cardoe: | omg |
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| [01:37:00] | Cardoe: | I'm not copying the configure script |
| [01:37:00] | MrEd: | Anybody Here? Looking for help on IR Blaster |
| [01:37:00] | Cardoe: | who did that |
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| [01:37:00] | sunilonln|away: | how do i change apt to pull from stable instead of testing? |
| [01:37:00] | Cardoe: | someone did a terrible copy and paste of ffmpeg |
| [01:37:00] | fryfrog: | monkeys sitting on a kb? :) |
| [01:37:00] | sunilonln|away is now known as sunilonln | |
| [01:37:00] | Cardoe: | sunilonln: isn't that a #debian |
| [01:37:00] | sunilonln: | yeah, but i figured this might be faster :) |
| [01:38:00] | Cardoe: | edit a file |
| [01:38:00] | Cardoe: | replace "testing" |
| [01:38:00] | Beirdo: | well it won't be :) |
| [01:38:00] | Cardoe: | with "stable" |
| [01:38:00] | sunilonln: | yeah |
| [01:38:00] | MrEd: | /etc/apt/sources.list |
| [01:38:00] | sunilonln: | ok |
| [01:38:00] | sunilonln: | see, it was faster |
| [01:38:00] | Cardoe: | rm -rf / |
| [01:38:00] | Cardoe: | kill -9 -1 |
| [01:38:00] | Cardoe: | sudo kill -9 -1 |
| [01:38:00] | Beirdo: | insert an FC3 CD and reboot |
| [01:39:00] | sunilonln: | MrEd: thanks |
| [01:39:00] | MrEd: | No problem |
| [01:39:00] | Beirdo: | mmmmmmm. |
| [01:40:00] | Beirdo: | cold vodka |
| [01:40:00] | MrEd: | Beirdo are you pissed? |
| [01:40:00] | Beirdo: | huh? |
| [01:40:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [01:41:00] | Beirdo: | i'm taking my cough medicine :) |
| [01:41:00] | Beirdo: | yummy vodka |
| [01:41:00] | MrEd: | It's ten in the morning right now for me. Sounds a bit strange right now |
| [01:42:00] | MrEd: | Tonight however... |
| [01:42:00] | Beirdo: | well, here at the center of the universe, it's 8:42pm |
| [01:42:00] | MrEd: | The centre of the universe? |
| [01:43:00] | MrEd: | You must be American |
| [01:43:00] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [01:43:00] | Beirdo: | Canadian |
| [01:43:00] | Beirdo: | Toronto is the center of the universe |
| [01:43:00] | Beirdo: | ask any Canadian |
| [01:43:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:43:00] | sunilonln: | Toronto is the center of the universe |
| [01:43:00] | Beirdo: | I so hate this city's arrogance |
| [01:43:00] | sunilonln: | lol |
| [01:43:00] | MrEd: | lol |
| [01:44:00] | Agrajag-: | i heard the funniest convo between two americans in some game earlier today |
| [01:44:00] | Beirdo: | wow. 5 Everwood to catch up on |
| [01:44:00] | Agrajag-: | "are you canadian?" "no, im in western new york" "oh, well you could pass as a canadian, you're silly enough" |
| [01:44:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:45:00] | Beirdo: | Western New Yorkers are practically honorary Canadians anyways |
| [01:45:00] | Agrajag-: | haha |
| [01:45:00] | gnarface: | mwahahha |
| [01:45:00] | Beirdo: | especially the poor bastards in Buffalo |
| [01:45:00] | gnarface: | i'm back |
| [01:45:00] | gnarface: | and tanked up on caffinated beer |
| [01:45:00] | gnarface: | it all makes sense now |
| [01:45:00] | gnarface: | i don't see why i didn't think of it before |
| [01:45:00] | Beirdo: | nothing like vodka at 0F |
| [01:46:00] | gnarface: | i just need to start *two* instances of lircd |
| [01:46:00] | gnarface: | duh |
| [01:46:00] | gnarface: | hehehe. |
| [01:46:00] | gnarface: | btw |
| [01:46:00] | gnarface: | you're wrong canada boy |
| [01:46:00] | gnarface: | hollywood is the center of the universe |
| [01:46:00] | MrEd: | gnarface: Your setting up an iR Blaster right |
| [01:46:00] | gnarface: | thats why everyone's looking in and nobody's looking out |
| [01:47:00] | gnarface: | MrEd: actually usb-uirc but close. |
| [01:47:00] | gnarface: | MrEd: have you done it before? this is my first time. |
| [01:47:00] | gnarface: | brb. need more beer. |
| [01:47:00] | MrEd: | Nope just about to set up an IR Blaster today. noidea |
| [01:48:00] | MrEd: | I'm hoping brewing my own wont be too hard |
| [01:48:00] | MrEd: | Looks pretty easy from the diagram thou |
| [01:48:00] | gnarface: | soldering iron? |
| [01:49:00] | gnarface: | hmm. yea, it looks easier actually |
| [01:49:00] | MrEd: | Yep |
| [01:49:00] | gnarface: | if i'd realized how much more documentation there would be out there on the serial connection, i would have saved 60$ and gone that way |
| [01:49:00] | ** egsavage wonders what he still is doing wrong in his X config with the ATI fglrx drivers ** | |
| [01:49:00] | gnarface: | right now i'm trying to use the usb-uirt module, and discovering that documentation is scarese |
| [01:49:00] | egsavage: | still no TV out for XV :-( |
| [01:50:00] | ** gnarface for the record, loves canadians. ** | |
| [01:51:00] | MrEd: | Youve bought a usb ir blaster gadjet huh? |
| [01:51:00] | ** j-rod will be hanging out in Canada starting tomorrow night... ** | |
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| [01:53:00] | gnarface: | MrEd: yea, this one: http://www.usbuirt.com/ |
| [01:53:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: too bad you'll likely not be in Toronto :) |
| [01:53:00] | Beirdo: | gnarface: Hollywood is full of Canadians, don't kid yourself |
| [01:54:00] | j-rod: | nope, Victoria |
| [01:54:00] | Beirdo: | you lucky man |
| [01:54:00] | Beirdo: | I'd love to be out there |
| [01:54:00] | j-rod: | baseball tournament |
| [01:54:00] | gnarface: | Beirdo: hollywood is full of everyone. its the frickin city of runnaways. i wasn't born here either you know. |
| [01:54:00] | j-rod: | I was born here. |
| [01:54:00] | Beirdo: | Canadian actors all over the place |
| [01:56:00] | kormoc: | victora rocks |
| [01:56:00] | gnarface: | yea, they're popular cause they're silly :) |
| [01:56:00] | j-rod: | I heard Samuel L. Jackson is Canadian. |
| [01:56:00] | j-rod: | And so is Bob DeNiro |
| [01:56:00] | gnarface: | canada rules |
| [01:56:00] | j-rod: | (or not) |
| [01:56:00] | gnarface: | i want to move to vancouver when i'm old and rich |
| [01:56:00] | j-rod: | (the actor stuff) |
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| [01:56:00] | kormoc: | I want to move to Vancouver now :P |
| [01:56:00] | Beirdo: | Hmm, I think I will order pizza. fuck congestion, I want 'za |
| [01:57:00] | GeckoFiend: | heh you know it's funny. they joke about the 300 baud modem with couplers. I actually have one of those in a closet |
| [01:57:00] | gnarface: | you'll never guess what's in my closet... |
| [01:58:00] | GeckoFiend: | your mom? |
| [01:58:00] | gnarface: | lol |
| [01:58:00] | gnarface: | no |
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| [01:58:00] | gnarface: | a good guess though |
| [01:58:00] | GeckoFiend: | couldn't resist |
| [01:58:00] | gnarface: | anyone ever hear of sparks? |
| [01:58:00] | gnarface: | its like a malt-liquor energy drink |
| [01:58:00] | gnarface: | it fricking rules for some reason |
| [01:58:00] | gnarface: | but it doesn't even taste good |
| [01:59:00] | ** j-rod hides his mom in his closet ** | |
| [01:59:00] | gnarface: | and it turns your mouth orange |
| [01:59:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:59:00] | Agrajag-: | i dont think any of those energy drinks can be any good for you at all |
| [01:59:00] | Beirdo: | Keifer Sutherland... Canadian |
| [01:59:00] | gnarface: | really? |
| [01:59:00] | Beirdo: | Phil Hartman (RIP) Canadian |
| [01:59:00] | gnarface: | wasn't he in dark city? |
| [01:59:00] | gnarface: | dark city ruled |
| [01:59:00] | Beirdo: | Eugene Levy... Canadian |
| [01:59:00] | j-rod: | Marlon Brando... Canadian |
| [01:59:00] | j-rod: | Chevy Chase... Canadian |
| [01:59:00] | ** gnarface has forseen his own death at the hands of energy drinks ** | |
| [01:59:00] | ** j-rod loves starting false rumors ** | |
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| [02:00:00] | Beirdo: | John Candy (RIP)... Canadian |
| [02:00:00] | j-rod: | Canadian Bacon!!!!!!!!! |
| [02:00:00] | j-rod: | That movie was sweet, dude |
| [02:00:00] | Beirdo: | Elisha Cuthbert (drooool)... Canadian |
| [02:00:00] | Beirdo: | Mike Myers.... Canadian |
| [02:00:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [02:01:00] | j-rod: | apt-cache search mod_jk... |
| [02:01:00] | sunilonln: | j-rod: how do i get 'mount /dev/VGforMyth/video /var/video' to mount on boot? |
| [02:01:00] | Beirdo: | man fstab |
| [02:01:00] | j-rod: | ^^^ |
| [02:01:00] | j-rod: | should be fairly evident if you just open up /etc/fstab |
| [02:01:00] | sunilonln: | ok |
| [02:02:00] | Beirdo: | yep |
| [02:02:00] | j-rod: | apt-cache policy mod_jk... |
| [02:02:00] | Beirdo: | newbies. :) |
| [02:02:00] | sunilonln: | hey, i'm trying :) |
| [02:02:00] | j-rod: | hm, mod_jk is finally part of FC4... |
| [02:02:00] | Beirdo: | yes you are, sunilonln. :) |
| [02:02:00] | Beirdo: | you'll learn it all soon enough |
| [02:04:00] | Cardoe: | who wants to try 0.18.1 plugin ebuilds for Gentoo |
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| [02:04:00] | Cardoe: | mod_jk? |
| [02:04:00] | Beirdo: | not me, Cardoe :) |
| [02:04:00] | gnarface: | Cardoe: only if you help me get usb-uirt working first |
| [02:09:00] | Cardoe: | and usb-uirt is... |
| [02:09:00] | gnarface: | think ir blaster but usb instead of serial |
| [02:09:00] | gnarface: | http://www.usbuirt.com/ |
| [02:09:00] | gnarface: | got my hauppage remote working for input |
| [02:09:00] | gnarface: | now i just need to use this for output |
| [02:09:00] | gnarface: | (to keep the directv box synced) |
| [02:09:00] | j-rod: | Cardoe, mod_jk = Tomcat mod_jk connector for Apache |
| [02:09:00] | j-rod: | nothing to do with myth, just yappin' |
| [02:09:00] | j-rod: | :) |
| [02:09:00] | MrEd: | Debian has had it for ages ;) |
| [02:09:00] | j-rod: | and? |
| [02:09:00] | MrEd: | Superior Operating System |
| [02:09:00] | j-rod: | jpackage has had it for ages too, but now its in the distro proper |
| [02:09:00] | j-rod: | Linux? I agree. |
| [02:09:00] | MrEd: | Do you write java apps? |
| [02:09:00] | j-rod: | hell no |
| [02:09:00] | j-rod: | I just maintain all the servers they run on |
| [02:09:00] | jams: | hehe |
| [02:09:00] | j-rod: | typical web-app-db-san tiered stuff |
| [02:09:00] | MrEd: | Ah jk_mod is essential for a java developer |
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| [02:09:00] | j-rod: | building out new equipment to replace our shitty old PowerEdge 2300s |
| [02:09:00] | MrEd: | have you tried openexchange? |
| [02:09:00] | j-rod: | sliding in a 3U, 6 blade chassis, in place of 4 6U 2300s |
| [02:09:00] | j-rod: | yeah, I run OX at home |
| [02:09:00] | MrEd: | Yeah it's great to finally get an Exchange killer on Linux |
| [02:10:00] | j-rod: | *snort* |
| [02:10:00] | j-rod: | its not even close yet |
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| [02:10:00] | MrEd: | Yeah but it stops outlook users from bitching |
| [02:10:00] | Cardoe: | j-rod: I'll take your PE 2300s |
| [02:10:00] | Cardoe: | ;) |
| [02:10:00] | j-rod: | I believe they'll be for sale soon, but ya gotta come pick them up in Seattle |
| [02:11:00] | j-rod: | not gonna ship these beasts |
| [02:11:00] | j-rod: | I've actually already got two of them at home |
| [02:11:00] | j-rod: | dual PIII-450s, 1.5GB of RAM, HW SCSI RAID, 6x18GB hot-swap SCSI drives |
| [02:11:00] | jams: | eh barely worth the shipping costs |
| [02:12:00] | j-rod: | We also just decommissioned a Dell PowerVault 650T SAN, if anyone wants to buy |
| [02:12:00] | j-rod: | but its a ROYAL PILE OF SHIT |
| [02:12:00] | jams: | yes |
| [02:12:00] | ** j-rod pets the two new Hitachi SANs ** | |
| [02:12:00] | jams: | the only SAN I use these days are from xiotech |
| [02:13:00] | j-rod: | The Hitachi Thunder 9500 series ones we have kick ass |
| [02:13:00] | Cardoe: | j-rod: I'm in south florida |
| [02:13:00] | Cardoe: | j-rod: opposite side of the country |
| [02:13:00] | Cardoe: | ;) |
| [02:13:00] | j-rod: | eh, a bit of a drive |
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| [02:49:00] | darkfire: | Section "Device" |
| [02:49:00] | darkfire: | Identifier "Hauppauge PVR 350 iTVC15 Framebuffer" |
| [02:49:00] | darkfire: | Driver "ivtvdev" |
| [02:49:00] | darkfire: | etc |
| [02:50:00] | gnarface: | darkfire: it still sounds like bad refresh/res though |
| [02:50:00] | gnarface: | darkfire: check the xorg.conf documentation and figure out how to set horz/vert refresh/resoution per display device. |
| [02:51:00] | darkfire: | well, i have them set, according to every tv-out howto i could find, they are HorizSync 30–68 and VertRefresh 50–120 |
| [02:52:00] | darkfire: | the resolution is 720x480, which should be what NTSC needs |
| [02:52:00] | gnarface: | darkfire: uh... 720x480 is *NOT* ntsc |
| [02:52:00] | gnarface: | darkfire: in fact its dvd resolution, which is way too wide for ntsc |
| [02:52:00] | darkfire: | hrmm, 720x480 is the only resolution the tv-out supports, iirc |
| [02:52:00] | gnarface: | darkfire: which would explain why you're getting horizontal wrap-around |
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| [02:53:00] | gnarface: | darkfire: you're using ivtv? maybe your'e right, but try changing it. |
| [02:53:00] | darkfire: | well, what should i change it to? |
| [02:53:00] | gnarface: | hell if i know |
| [02:53:00] | gnarface: | does anyone know what NTSC officially is? |
| [02:53:00] | gnarface: | its gonna be effectively somewhere near 512/512 |
| [02:54:00] | gnarface: | or 512/480 |
| [02:54:00] | gnarface: | try messing with it. |
| [02:54:00] | gnarface: | it might even be 640x480 |
| [02:54:00] | gnarface: | start with that first |
| [02:54:00] | gnarface: | overscan alters the effective size, since most tv's overscan natively |
| [02:54:00] | darkfire: | 648x486 sound good? |
| [02:54:00] | gnarface: | but you'll know when you've got it right because you won't be getting wrap-around |
| [02:55:00] | gnarface: | *shrug* sure. where'd you come up with that number? |
| [02:55:00] | darkfire: | googled for "ntsc resolution" |
| [02:55:00] | gnarface: | aah. |
| [02:55:00] | gnarface: | sure. try it. it might not matter if you're not right on though. |
| [02:55:00] | Cardoe: | Any Gentoo users that use MythMusic? |
| [02:56:00] | darkfire: | gnarface, hrmm, what timings would i need to do that? i dont know the DotClock HTimings or VTimings that should be set for that mode |
| [02:56:00] | gnarface: | Cardoe: not yet but if you're having that problem with compiling it put this line in your /etc/portege/packge.keywords: media-libs/faad2 ~x86 |
| [02:57:00] | gnarface: | Cardoe: the missing header file is actually a bug in the current stable faad2 package |
| [02:57:00] | darkfire: | gnarface, wait, X will define those automatically if they aren't listed, right? |
| [02:57:00] | [Klatuu]: | I'm going to try and record at 720x480 |
| [02:57:00] | [Klatuu]: | but it probably will be too intensive |
| [02:58:00] | Cardoe: | gnarface: I'm looking for testers |
| [02:58:00] | gnarface: | darkfire: depends on your hardware. with most newer hardware i think so... but you should be sure. ntsc standard resolution also comes with standard horzontal/vertical refresh rates, fyi |
| [02:58:00] | gnarface: | Cardoe: havn't gotten that far yet. its compiled but i'm trying to wire up my usb-uirt first |
| [02:59:00] | [Klatuu]: | I belive NTSC tops out at 525 lines |
| [02:59:00] | opello: | doesn't mythtv realize that i have 2 tuners? i get the 'mythtv wants to record er, what do you want to do' but the other tuner is just sitting idle |
| [02:59:00] | gnarface: | opello: you gotta tell it about them all using mythsetup |
| [02:59:00] | [Klatuu]: | do you have 2 capture cards setup? |
| [03:00:00] | gnarface: | darkfire: do set the h/v refreshes manually, just to be sure. the dotclocks you might be able to get away without |
| [03:00:00] | opello: | gnarface: right, i do |
| [03:01:00] | gnarface: | opello: never tried it so i'm not sure. check all your setup variables over again. |
| [03:02:00] | opello: | i can hit 'y' to switch between them, so it knows about both of them :) |
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| [03:02:00] | opello: | and i can record 2 shows at once (and routinely do) |
| [03:02:00] | opello: | but why does it 'need' the one i'm using for tv :) |
| [03:02:00] | darkfire: | gnarface, hrmm, i am finding the numbers used in NTSC, but, no clue which ones should go where in the xorg.conf |
| [03:02:00] | Cardoe: | what is usb-uirt? |
| [03:03:00] | darkfire: | the refresh rate is 59.94 |
| [03:03:00] | gnarface: | Cardoe: think ir blaster but usb instead of serial. |
| [03:03:00] | darkfire: | should that be the horizsync? |
| [03:04:00] | gnarface: | opello: i saw an option somewhere about allowing it to change the livetv channel implicitly to do recordings. did you see that? |
| [03:04:00] | opello: | that's not what i want |
| [03:04:00] | opello: | but no, i didn't see it |
| [03:04:00] | gnarface: | opello: what do you want, exactly? |
| [03:05:00] | opello: | if i'm watching tv, and it wants to record something, and the other tuner is free, use that one |
| [03:05:00] | gnarface: | darkfire: man xorg.conf i don't know either. |
| [03:06:00] | gnarface: | opello: i'd have to check again, but i'm sure i saw an option for that in there somewhere.... can anyone else back me up on this? |
| [03:06:00] | fryfrog: | opello: if both tuners have equal ratings, it should |
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| [03:06:00] | opello: | fryfrog: where do you rate your tuners? |
| [03:06:00] | Cardoe: | opello: try this for me |
| [03:06:00] | fryfrog: | if ou didn't change it, the'll be equal |
| [03:06:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: you too |
| [03:07:00] | Cardoe: | mythmusic-0.18.1 ebuilds |
| [03:07:00] | fryfrog: | in portage? |
| [03:07:00] | opello: | Cardoe: i'm not on 0.18.1 yet |
| [03:07:00] | opello: | Cardoe: or doesn't it matter? |
| [03:07:00] | fryfrog: | i've already got my own mythmusic-0.18.1 ebuild, but i can re-merge it |
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| [03:11:00] | gnarface: | jams: building the modules you suggested, thanks. any advice on configuring? |
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| [03:13:00] | Cardoe: | opello: well this would move you there |
| [03:13:00] | opello: | i didn't get it after my sync just now |
| [03:15:00] | opello: | it's not on the web-cvs either |
| [03:15:00] | opello: | got a link? :) |
| [03:15:00] | fryfrog: | not on latest cvs i got either |
| [03:15:00] | fryfrog: | er, rsync |
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| [03:19:00] | gnarface: | aah at last |
| [03:19:00] | gnarface: | crw------- 1 root tty 188, 0 May 19 19:20 /dev/tts/USB0 |
| [03:19:00] | gnarface: | perhaps this is what i've been looking for all along |
| [03:19:00] | gnarface: | for just this one moment, i love everyone and everything |
| [03:20:00] | gnarface: | bask in it you bastards |
| [03:20:00] | dhofstra: | I cant believe that (mandrake and suse at least) LIRC packages have no way to setup a homebrew reciever as being able to transmit.. anyone know if it is somehow possible? |
| [03:20:00] | dhofstra: | (without just compiling a 2nd instance myself)? |
| [03:20:00] | opello: | Cardoe: anything? |
| [03:20:00] | gnarface: | dhofstra: i'm thinking you're S.O.L. |
| [03:20:00] | dhofstra: | heh |
| [03:20:00] | Cardoe: | opello: 0.18.1 is masked |
| [03:21:00] | Cardoe: | MythTV that is |
| [03:21:00] | Cardoe: | and mythmusic isn't commited |
| [03:21:00] | Cardoe: | you need 0.18.1 MythTV |
| [03:21:00] | opello: | ahh |
| [03:21:00] | gnarface: | dhofstra: http://www.lircsetup.com/lirc/blaster/index.php this might be of help though |
| [03:21:00] | opello: | i figured mythmusic-0.18.1 was in portage when you asked for testers |
| [03:21:00] | Esotericisms: | damnit .. my f-ing remote isn't working again ... |
| [03:22:00] | Cardoe: | opello: I want testers prior to commit |
| [03:22:00] | gnarface: | dhofstra: also the html files in the docs/html directory of the source tarball itself have some rare pointers on dual-device setups i didn't see anywhere else, and i've been looking for 32 hours straight now |
| [03:22:00] | dhofstra: | gnarface in the past I have just sucked it up and compiled a 2nd version myself, but it is always a horrible horrible process to get going,... mostly luck |
| [03:23:00] | dhofstra: | the package works so nicely for the reciever, I just wish they could build transmitting in it also |
| [03:23:00] | gnarface: | dhofstra: i agree. |
| [03:23:00] | Esotericisms: | damn I think I jacked things up |
| [03:23:00] | dhofstra: | of course, the main problem is that removing the package breaks so many other packages |
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| [03:27:00] | Esotericisms: | dhofstra, you dealt with ivtv directly from ivtv.tv? |
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| [03:28:00] | dhofstra: | Esotericisms I have installed ivtv from source.. is that what you mean? |
| [03:31:00] | defaultro: | hi dhofstra, nice seeing you again :) |
| [03:32:00] | dhofstra: | heh, I make my way round here alot lately |
| [03:32:00] | dhofstra: | Whenever my projects get so massively huge that I dont want to deal with them I end up in IRC for a few weeks to build up motivation |
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| [03:33:00] | defaultro: | :) cool |
| [03:34:00] | ethics: | dhofstra, he means the kennedy drivers |
| [03:34:00] | dhofstra: | Seems like I can setup a system as a fileserver, LVM, webserver, mythtv, all the apps in a couple of hours... then comes the beast they call LIRC |
| [03:34:00] | dhofstra: | Of course I install the CK drivers |
| [03:35:00] | dhofstra: | been using 0.2.0-rc2g absolutely stable for about 5 months |
| [03:36:00] | dhofstra: | (I know there is newer, but why? I dont think I've had a single issue in 5–6months |
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| [03:37:00] | Esotericisms: | ok problem .. |
| [03:37:00] | Esotericisms: | lircd is failing to start I think |
| [03:37:00] | Esotericisms: | when I manually start it ... it stays running |
| [03:38:00] | Esotericisms: | up until the point when I try running 'irw' to check to see if it is working |
| [03:38:00] | Esotericisms: | then lircd dies |
| [03:38:00] | dhofstra: | Esotericisms the best way to troubleshoot lirc is.. |
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| [03:38:00] | dhofstra: | 1) open a terminal, and as root, type lircd --nodaemon |
| [03:38:00] | dhofstra: | this will output messages right to that terminal |
| [03:39:00] | dhofstra: | then open a 2nd window and as regular user issue irw |
| [03:39:00] | dhofstra: | note what happens |
| [03:39:00] | Esotericisms: | ok just second |
| [03:39:00] | rtsai1111: | Esotericism, you could throw more money at the problem and just use a wireless keyboard IR receiver and progrma your remot to send keystrokes |
| [03:40:00] | Esotericisms: | ? |
| [03:41:00] | Esotericisms: | http://pastebin.ca/12208 |
| [03:42:00] | Esotericisms: | I think there is a problem with ivtv and it recognizing the ir receiver? |
| [03:42:00] | dhofstra: | Esotericisms: what distro? are you using rpms? or building yourself? |
| [03:43:00] | defaultro: | dhofstra, I was reading a topic in a different forum. Any idea what GTG means in GTG Chicago? |
| [03:43:00] | Esotericisms: | well I have been using rpms ... however ... my system keeps on stopping to respond to the remote (though lircd is still running) ... according to several people this is a known problem ... I look at the mailing list and someone stated that it had been fix in a patch. I contacted this person and they said it was in the latest version of ivtv |
| [03:44:00] | Esotericisms: | Fedora Core 3 |
| [03:44:00] | Esotericisms: | so I tried installing from source but that didn't seem to work |
| [03:44:00] | dhofstra: | defaultro: I'm embarrassed to say as a Chicagoan, Ive never heard of it |
| [03:45:00] | dhofstra: | Esotericisms, the latest version of ivtv is 0.3x and is not stable |
| [03:46:00] | Esotericisms: | it is the only thing to work with pvr15- |
| [03:46:00] | dhofstra: | do you have a pvr150? |
| [03:46:00] | Esotericisms: | pvr150 |
| [03:46:00] | dhofstra: | ahh |
| [03:47:00] | dhofstra: | man, I wish I could help more, but I have a serial homebrew reciever (I know a TON about how to set that up... just not about transmitting) |
| [03:47:00] | Esotericisms: | I am not trying to transmit |
| [03:48:00] | rtsai1111: | IR keyboard receiver == no need for LIRC |
| [03:48:00] | Esotericisms: | yes I guess that is true |
| [03:48:00] | defaultro: | dhosfta, looks like it Get ToGether |
| [03:48:00] | defaultro: | hmmm :) |
| [03:48:00] | Esotericisms: | well I guess I am fucked for now ... |
| [03:48:00] | Esotericisms: | damnit |
| [03:49:00] | dhofstra: | well, I've been away from Chi for about a decade, so my jargon is fading into Indiananess |
| [03:49:00] | defaultro: | ok :) |
| [03:51:00] | ethics: | Esotericisms, dont worry i have a pvr150 and the remote works a treat....just cant get a channel to be acceptable to watch......pvr-150 = many different versions of the same stuff i think |
| [03:54:00] | Esotericisms: | ethics, how does that help me? |
| [03:54:00] | Esotericisms: | my remote ... doesn't work at all now |
| [03:55:00] | ethics: | Esotericisms, it just means you can at least watch tv....i have a remote working 100 percent and cant even do that....just saying your situation is better than some of the pvr-150 users |
| [03:56:00] | ethics: | ethics, as drivers improve you will be happier....doesnt pay to buy the latest cards sometimes |
| [03:56:00] | gnarface: | argh. |
| [03:56:00] | Esotericisms: | I just don't get it ... it was working perfectly earlier |
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| [04:01:00] | kgbudz: | how do i convert my shit to VOB files |
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| [04:01:00] | kgbudz: | cause i used nuvexport -> dvd and its outputing mpeg2 |
| [04:02:00] | kgbudz: | do i rename that to .vob? |
| [04:02:00] | opello: | ...no |
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| [04:02:00] | kgbudz: | so how should i go about doing this? |
| [04:02:00] | opello: | since my dvd burner is in my windows box, i use tmpegenc to demux the mpeg to m2v and mp2, then dvdauthorgui to make an iso |
| [04:03:00] | kgbudz: | like i have a similar setup |
| [04:03:00] | kgbudz: | but i want to store my media as VOB |
| [04:03:00] | kgbudz: | cause i dont want to do any sort of transcoding to burn my shows on dvd |
| [04:04:00] | kgbudz: | is there an app which does mpeg2->vob? |
| [04:04:00] | opello: | then you can do it the same way ... just don't make the iso |
| [04:05:00] | kgbudz: | my burning software only accepts vob files |
| [04:05:00] | kgbudz: | otherwise it will transcode it |
| [04:05:00] | kgbudz: | which is what im trying to avoid |
| [04:05:00] | opello: | tmpegenc -> m2v, mp2 -> dvdauthorgui -> vobs |
| [04:05:00] | dhofstra: | kgbudz are you using a pvr card? |
| [04:06:00] | kgbudz: | ya |
| [04:06:00] | kgbudz: | so my stuff is already mpeg2 |
| [04:06:00] | kgbudz: | i use nuvexport to cut the commercials and dump to mpeg2 |
| [04:06:00] | dhofstra: | I setup my PVR card to record in DVD resolution (720x480) and a bitrate compatible with DVD, and I just use nerovision express to burn the .nuv files directly (they are already mpeg2 and in correct bitrate and frame size) |
| [04:06:00] | kgbudz: | i want to append a command after that to encode to VOB |
| [04:07:00] | kgbudz: | dhofstra, nero vision has to transcode |
| [04:07:00] | kgbudz: | and that takes like hours |
| [04:07:00] | kgbudz: | per dvd |
| [04:08:00] | kgbudz: | i want to do all of this trancoding on my mythbox |
| [04:08:00] | dhofstra: | kgbudz nerovision express will not transcode if you already are dealing with a dvd compliant mpeg2 stream |
| [04:08:00] | dhofstra: | takes like 20–30 min to burn a dvd here |
| [04:08:00] | dhofstra: | (4x) |
| [04:08:00] | opello: | dhofstra: no, but it still has to make it into a dvd |
| [04:08:00] | opello: | 4x should be able to do a full 4gb in 12 mins |
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| [04:09:00] | jams: | I would listen to dhofstra |
| [04:09:00] | dhofstra: | well, when I have my pvr set to some other resolution it takes hours |
| [04:09:00] | jams: | he knows this stuff |
| [04:09:00] | opello: | right, because it has to reencode it |
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| [04:09:00] | kgbudz: | so what do i do with all the shows i already have encoded? |
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| [04:10:00] | dhofstra: | err |
| [04:10:00] | opello: | kgbudz: what do you have them encoded to? |
| [04:10:00] | kgbudz: | default pvr mpeg2 encoded |
| [04:10:00] | kgbudz: | nuv files |
| [04:10:00] | opello: | ah |
| [04:10:00] | dhofstra: | I use 720x480 mpeg2ps 4500–6000 audio 3200 typeII and 384kbps |
| [04:11:00] | opello: | well, i guess i gave you a solution that will give you vobs |
| [04:11:00] | dhofstra: | you just have to select 'all files' in vision express to see the .nuv once you pick it nero recognizes it as mpeg video |
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| [04:12:00] | kgbudz: | im assuming dvdauthorgui isnt command line? |
| [04:12:00] | dhofstra: | you could also use nuv2disc to prepare a dvd on linux box for burning |
| [04:12:00] | opello: | kgbudz: no, it's a cheeky windows app |
| [04:12:00] | kgbudz: | i will have to look into nuv2disc |
| [04:14:00] | jams: | it will also do the burn if you have a dvd-burner |
| [04:14:00] | kgbudz: | hmm... |
| [04:15:00] | kgbudz: | i think im just going to stick with mpeg2 |
| [04:15:00] | dhofstra: | I hear the developer of nuv2disc is really cool too... |
| [04:15:00] | kgbudz: | is nuv2disc GUI based or command? |
| [04:16:00] | dhofstra: | it's (kinda) like a plugin for myth... you can use the remote and it is a menu in the myth main screen |
| [04:16:00] | kgbudz: | o |
| [04:16:00] | jams: | right you can do the entire process with only the remote or mouse |
| [04:17:00] | jams: | extras.mythtvtalk.com |
| [04:17:00] | kgbudz: | does it cut using the cut points? |
| [04:17:00] | jams: | it can..for some people it causes audio sync problems |
| [04:18:00] | kgbudz: | hmm |
| [04:19:00] | Esotericisms: | if anyone around can help with lirc it would be appreciated |
| [04:20:00] | jams: | Esotericisms, what sort of help |
| [04:20:00] | Esotericisms: | it keeps failing ... |
| [04:20:00] | mchou: | dhofstra: you're so wrong about lirc...... |
| [04:21:00] | Esotericisms: | http://pastebin.ca/12208 |
| [04:21:00] | mchou: | of course you can use homebrew. |
| [04:21:00] | Esotericisms: | basically this is what happened |
| [04:22:00] | Esotericisms: | my system would stop responding to my remote, but lirc was still running (this I found happened to be a known problem and required a reboot evertime it happens) |
| [04:22:00] | Esotericisms: | I checked the mailing list and one of the posters said he created a patch and that it was added to the latest version of ivtv to keep this from happening |
| [04:23:00] | Esotericisms: | however atrpms doesn't have the latest 0.3.x version available |
| [04:23:00] | Esotericisms: | so I need to install if from source ... I attempted to do this and now it won't work at all .. I have tried to revert back, but it doesn't work |
| [04:25:00] | jams: | sounds to complex for this time of night |
| [04:25:00] | jams: | i'm off to bed |
| [04:25:00] | Esotericisms: | no! ... |
| [04:25:00] | Esotericisms: | alright |
| [04:25:00] | Esotericisms: | night |
| [04:25:00] | mchou: | sigh, damn ppl ought to read the darn instructions. |
| [04:25:00] | Esotericisms: | mchou, am I missing something? |
| [04:27:00] | mchou: | yeah, compile from source and follow directions. |
| [04:27:00] | Esotericisms: | I did a make && make install ... said I might have four files that may be comflicting and to remove them so I did so ... |
| [04:27:00] | Esotericisms: | I restarted and nothing works |
| [04:28:00] | mchou: | wtf do you need to restart? |
| [04:28:00] | mchou: | modinfo is your friend. |
| [04:29:00] | Esotericisms: | alright I will remember that .. but still ... it doesn't work |
| [04:29:00] | mchou: | so is modprobe and rmmod. |
| [04:29:00] | mchou: | so RTFM. |
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| [04:29:00] | mchou: | whining about it certainly aint going solve it. |
| [04:29:00] | Esotericisms: | yes I know that ... |
| [04:29:00] | jams: | Esotericisms, just as a tip make sure your using the lirc you compiles and not the one from the rpm |
| [04:30:00] | Esotericisms: | I have reading the mailing lists ... |
| [04:30:00] | harryo: | anyone unable to get opengl-vsync to work on 0.18.1? (like me) |
| [04:30:00] | mchou: | I said read the instructions, not some mail-list. |
| [04:30:00] | Esotericisms: | jams, I will try .. I will go download the source right now |
| [04:31:00] | Esotericisms: | http://www.ivtv.tv/, where are the docs on that page ... I don't see any |
| [04:31:00] | mchou: | damn, you're daft. |
| [04:32:00] | Cardoe: | Esotericisms: there's this new invention out |
| [04:32:00] | Cardoe: | it's called Google |
| [04:32:00] | mchou: | take a wild ass guess where the docs are. |
| [04:32:00] | Cardoe: | go ahead |
| [04:32:00] | Cardoe: | try it |
| [04:32:00] | rtsai1111: | http://www.google.com/search?q=ivtv+documenta . . . -US:official |
| [04:32:00] | Esotericisms: | I guess everyone are just jackasses today |
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| [04:32:00] | Cardoe: | Esotericisms: when you ask for blatently obvious stuff |
| [04:33:00] | gnarface: | argh. |
| [04:33:00] | gnarface: | anyone in here done usb-uirt yet? |
| [04:33:00] | gnarface: | i can't get the thing to behave |
| [04:33:00] | NightStorm: | hello all... just updated to 18.1 via rpms and was wondering if anyone could help me... i am getting error messages saying 'unable to initialize plugin' for all the mythtv plugins (mythvideo, mythweather, etc) at mythfrontend startup...any ideas how i could fix |
| [04:33:00] | ** rtsai1111 shakes his head (not me) ** | |
| [04:33:00] | Esotericisms: | obviously not that obvious there is no link to docs on the damn fucking ivtv website ... so I don't see what I am missing ( maybe because it is late at night ) |
| [04:34:00] | harryo: | NightStorm: did you install the mythplugins rpm along with the mythtv rpm? |
| [04:35:00] | NightStorm: | harryo: yes, i pulled mythtv-suite... when i try apt-get install mythplugins it tells me i have the latest version |
| [04:35:00] | harryo: | NightStorm: was your previous myth version based on rpms or compiled? |
| [04:35:00] | NightStorm: | rpm |
| [04:35:00] | ethics: | Esotericisms, in the source code there is a readme on what to do to install.........i think you need to run depmod at a minimum |
| [04:36:00] | harryo: | NightStorm: same paths before and after (s/b /usr for rpms)? |
| [04:36:00] | NightStorm: | as far as i am aware |
| [04:36:00] | Esotericisms: | I have tried that too |
| [04:37:00] | ethics: | Esotericisms, i think the story went something like....make && make install.....rm the .ko files it tells you to remove......run depmod........modprobe -r ivtv modprobe ivtv.....start lirc test |
| [04:37:00] | harryo: | NightStorm: did you stop and restart mythbackend and did you do a /sbin/ldconfig ? |
| [04:37:00] | gnarface: | jams: you still here? i think i almost have this working but i can't figure out which --device and --output to use for my lircd |
| [04:37:00] | NightStorm: | livetv, recorded tv, mythdvd all work |
| [04:37:00] | NightStorm: | harryo: i rebooted, i didnt run /sbin/ldconfig though |
| [04:37:00] | ethics: | Esotericisms, also dont forget to go to the utils directory to make lirc etc |
| [04:38:00] | ethics: | Esotericisms, theres also some remote config files in utils i think |
| [04:38:00] | harryo: | NightStorm: check for old versions of the plugins and do a /sbin/ldconfig just to be safe (I always do) |
| [04:38:00] | Esotericisms: | k |
| [04:38:00] | Esotericisms: | I am checking |
| [04:38:00] | ethics: | Esotericisms, its all off the top of my head...but i installed them last night no probs.. |
| [04:38:00] | NightStorm: | where are the plugins stored by default? |
| [04:39:00] | ethics: | NightStorm, /usr/bin? |
| [04:39:00] | rtsai1111: | i think plugins are in /usr/[local/]/share/mythtv/ |
| [04:39:00] | harryo: | NightStorm: I compile so for me /usr/local/share/mythtv/plugins. for rpms I would think /usr/share/mythtv/plugins |
| [04:39:00] | NightStorm: | hmm |
| [04:40:00] | NightStorm: | there is nothing in /usr/local/share/mythtv/plugins/mythvideo except another directory called scripts |
| [04:41:00] | rtsai1111: | try 'cd /usr && find . -name 'libmyth*' -print' |
| [04:41:00] | harryo: | NightStorm: my mistake: /usr/local/lib/mythtv/plugins for me. probably /usr/lib/mythtv/plugins for you |
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| [04:42:00] | Esotericisms: | lircd-0.7.1[6058]: lircd(any) ready |
| [04:42:00] | Esotericisms: | lircd-0.7.1[6058]: accepted new client on /dev/lircd |
| [04:42:00] | Esotericisms: | lircd-0.7.1[6058]: could not get file information for /dev/lirc |
| [04:42:00] | Esotericisms: | lircd-0.7.1[6058]: default_init(): No such file or directory |
| [04:42:00] | NightStorm: | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 683952 Apr 21 10:53 libmythvideo.so |
| [04:42:00] | NightStorm: | apr 21 |
| [04:42:00] | NightStorm: | that would lead me to believe its old |
| [04:42:00] | rtsai1111: | what director is that in? |
| [04:42:00] | harryo: | NightStorm: which dir? |
| [04:43:00] | NightStorm: | in usr/lib/mythtv/plugins/libmythvideo.so |
| [04:43:00] | ** rtsai1111 bows before harryo's myth-fu ** | |
| [04:43:00] | harryo: | NightStorm: what does 'rpm -qf /usr/lib/mythtv/plugins/libmythvideo.so' show? |
| [04:44:00] | Esotericisms: | ethics, still having issues as you can see |
| [04:44:00] | NightStorm: | mythvideo-0.18–104.rhfc3.at |
| [04:44:00] | Cardoe: | NightStorm: so then you're mythplugins 0.18.1 didn't install |
| [04:44:00] | harryo: | NightStorm: I would think it should show mythvideo-0.18.1 |
| [04:45:00] | harryo: | NightStorm: what distro and kernel? |
| [04:45:00] | NightStorm: | fc3/latest kernel from atrpms i believe |
| [04:45:00] | NightStorm: | yeah it should show 18.1–106 |
| [04:46:00] | NightStorm: | i think |
| [04:46:00] | harryo: | NightStorm: maybe do an 'apt-get update' and try again for just mythvideo? |
| [04:46:00] | NightStorm: | so its not updating the plugins dir |
| [04:46:00] | Cardoe: | Esotericisms: look @ /dev/lirc |
| [04:46:00] | Cardoe: | Esotericisms: directory or file? |
| [04:46:00] | Cardoe: | Esotericisms: on my setup it's /dev/lirc/0 |
| [04:46:00] | Cardoe: | or /dev/lirc0 |
| [04:46:00] | Cardoe: | fix the scripts to whatever you actually have |
| [04:47:00] | NightStorm: | i dont think i can pull just mythvideo... i believe they are all packaged into mythplugins |
| [04:47:00] | Esotericisms: | do you know which scripts or which file? |
| [04:47:00] | harryo: | NightStorm: right. forgot new packaging. try 'apt-get update' and then 'apt-get -s install mythplugins' and see what you get |
| [04:47:00] | Esotericisms: | Cardoe, it is /dev/lircd |
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| [04:48:00] | NightStorm: | ok |
| [04:49:00] | NightStorm: | says mythplugins is already newest version |
| [04:49:00] | Cardoe: | Esotericisms: no. you need /dev/lirc and /dec/lircd |
| [04:49:00] | Esotericisms: | ok .. so create a soft link? |
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| [04:50:00] | kormoc: | Esotericisms, if they were the same thing, why would you need two of them? |
| [04:50:00] | NightStorm: | apt-get remove mythplugins, and then install mythplugins installs a very small file |
| [04:50:00] | NightStorm: | 12.9k |
| [04:50:00] | harryo: | NightStorm: well.. you could always download the package and install using rpm -ivh to force it |
| [04:50:00] | Esotericisms: | ok fine ... so how do I get this other device then? |
| [04:50:00] | harryo: | NightStorm: package on Axel's server says 975K |
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| [04:51:00] | Cardoe: | Esotericisms: one is the actual device |
| [04:51:00] | NightStorm: | hmm |
| [04:51:00] | Cardoe: | and one is the translated device by lircd |
| [04:51:00] | Cardoe: | what remote do you have? |
| [04:51:00] | Esotericisms: | ok |
| [04:52:00] | harryo: | sorry- that's mythweather. mythplugins is not the real package (9.7k). What happens if you try 'apt-get install mythvideo'? |
| [04:52:00] | Esotericisms: | the newer one for the pvr-150 |
| [04:52:00] | Esotericisms: | silver and black with the color buttons at the bottom |
| [04:52:00] | Cardoe: | and how did you compile lirc? |
| [04:53:00] | Esotericisms: | I didn't ... I followed jarods guide when I originally set it up .. |
| [04:53:00] | Esotericisms: | now that I have changed ivtv do I need to compile from source? |
| [04:53:00] | NightStorm: | sorry trying that now\ |
| [04:53:00] | Cardoe: | run lsmod |
| [04:54:00] | NightStorm: | hmm |
| [04:54:00] | NightStorm: | it is updating now |
| [04:54:00] | NightStorm: | lets see if that worked |
| [04:54:00] | NightStorm: | it grabbed a 2.6mb package |
| [04:54:00] | NightStorm: | 18.1–106 |
| [04:54:00] | harryo: | NightStorm: sounds better |
| [04:54:00] | NightStorm: | yep that works now |
| [04:54:00] | NightStorm: | thanks a bunch |
| [04:54:00] | Cardoe: | Esotericisms: do you see lirc_i2c in there? |
| [04:55:00] | NightStorm: | not sure why it wasnt pulling the right one through mythplugins |
| [04:55:00] | NightStorm: | looks like ill need to update them manually |
| [04:55:00] | Esotericisms: | yes |
| [04:55:00] | Esotericisms: | http://pastebin.ca/12212 |
| [04:55:00] | Cardoe: | Esotericisms: give me ls -l /dev/lirc* |
| [04:56:00] | Esotericisms: | srw-rw-rw- 1 root root – May 19 23:47 /dev/lircd |
| [04:56:00] | NightStorm: | thanks harryo |
| [04:57:00] | harryo: | NightStorm: np. |
| [04:57:00] | Cardoe: | what file system do you use... |
| [04:57:00] | Cardoe: | ext3 as a module... |
| [04:57:00] | Cardoe: | geez |
| [04:58:00] | Esotericisms: | what? |
| [04:58:00] | Cardoe: | dmesg | grep lirc |
| [04:58:00] | Esotericisms: | I am just using Fedora Core 3 install |
| [04:59:00] | Esotericisms: | lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61 |
| [05:00:00] | Cardoe: | and you're fully updated? |
| [05:00:00] | Esotericisms: | in what regards? |
| [05:01:00] | Cardoe: | with Fedora crap |
| [05:01:00] | Esotericisms: | as of like 3 or 4 days ago |
| [05:01:00] | Cardoe: | # Support for i2c and lm_sensors |
| [05:01:00] | Cardoe: | alias char-major-89 i2c-dev |
| [05:01:00] | Esotericisms: | when I installed the system |
| [05:01:00] | Cardoe: | and you have that somewhere in /etc/modules.conf? |
| [05:01:00] | Beirdo: | Cardoe: don't make me start dissing Gentoo :) |
| [05:01:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [05:01:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: you know what I meant |
| [05:01:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: Fedora updates |
| [05:01:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, I know |
| [05:02:00] | Beirdo: | and I'm pretty pissed with Fedora lately anyways :) |
| [05:02:00] | Esotericisms: | um .. Cardoe, I have alias char-major-61 lirc_i2c |
| [05:02:00] | Cardoe: | what'd it do? |
| [05:02:00] | Beirdo: | all the damn politics |
| [05:02:00] | Cardoe: | Esotericisms: but not what I said huh? |
| [05:02:00] | Esotericisms: | no |
| [05:02:00] | Esotericisms: | I guess I can add it |
| [05:02:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: is it safe in Fedora to edit /etc/modules.conf or is there another file? |
| [05:02:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: and then re-gen? |
| [05:03:00] | Beirdo: | it's safe |
| [05:03:00] | Beirdo: | in FC1, you directly edit |
| [05:03:00] | Beirdo: | and I don't think they changed it |
| [05:03:00] | Esotericisms: | ok .. Cardoe, I made the change ... how do I reload or do I have to or whats next |
| [05:04:00] | Beirdo: | depmod -a |
| [05:04:00] | Beirdo: | then try whatever you were doing again |
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| [05:04:00] | Cardoe: | Esotericisms: rmmod all the lirc modules |
| [05:05:00] | Cardoe: | Esotericisms: then modprobe lirc_i2c |
| [05:05:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: See there's some safety stuff I like how Gentoo has |
| [05:05:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: /etc/modules.d/ |
| [05:05:00] | Cardoe: | if I have specifics for my sound card |
| [05:05:00] | Cardoe: | I use ALSA |
| [05:05:00] | Beirdo: | blech |
| [05:05:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [05:05:00] | Cardoe: | so I have a file there called "alsa" |
| [05:05:00] | Cardoe: | and it brings it in |
| [05:05:00] | Esotericisms: | what are the lirc modules exactly .. cause 'rmmod lirc' doesn't work |
| [05:05:00] | Cardoe: | Esotericisms: run lsmod |
| [05:05:00] | Beirdo: | lsmod |
| [05:05:00] | Beirdo: | jeez |
| [05:06:00] | Cardoe: | help me... |
| [05:06:00] | Cardoe: | help you... |
| [05:06:00] | Esotericisms: | sorry still learning about module crap |
| [05:06:00] | rtsai1111: | Cardoe: debian has /etc/modprobe.d/, a similar thing |
| [05:06:00] | rtsai1111: | (I think) |
| [05:07:00] | Cardoe: | I think they do too |
| [05:07:00] | Esotericisms: | ok reloaded modules |
| [05:07:00] | Beirdo: | I think that methodology just obfuscates it |
| [05:07:00] | Cardoe: | ls -l /dev/lirc* |
| [05:07:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: yeah but morons shouldn't touch modules.conf |
| [05:07:00] | Esotericisms: | just still the one ... |
| [05:07:00] | Esotericisms: | should I install the latest version of lirc from source? |
| [05:07:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: cause they tinker with stuff they shouldn't |
| [05:07:00] | Beirdo: | morons shouldn't run Linux at all |
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| [05:10:00] | Cardoe: | Esotericisms: if you want |
| [05:10:00] | Cardoe: | there should be some guide about lirc on Fedora |
| [05:12:00] | Esotericisms: | this is annoying .. |
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| [05:13:00] | Cardoe: | There always is Gentoo |
| [05:13:00] | Cardoe: | which basically you setup a basic system |
| [05:13:00] | Cardoe: | configure your kernel right |
| [05:13:00] | Cardoe: | which there's a detailed desc of it |
| [05:13:00] | Cardoe: | then you just emerge mythtv |
| [05:13:00] | Cardoe: | if you have a hauppauge card |
| [05:13:00] | Cardoe: | add a good ol' modprobe lirc-i2c |
| [05:13:00] | Cardoe: | and everything is done |
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| [05:34:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [05:34:00] | Beirdo: | 10h later |
| [05:36:00] | Beirdo: | "just emerge mythtv" |
| [05:37:00] | Beirdo: | that's the understatement of the year, Cardoe |
| [05:37:00] | Beirdo: | emerge mythtv and come back tomorrow |
| [05:37:00] | Beirdo: | qt would take an exceedingly long time to build |
| [05:39:00] | Cardoe: | heh |
| [05:40:00] | rtsai1111: | conveniently, us yankees can kick that off and have it be done when we come back from Memorial Day vacations end of May. |
| [05:41:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [05:41:00] | Beirdo: | pretty much |
| [05:42:00] | sunilonln: | anyone here use a Radeon 9200SE for tv-out? |
| [05:42:00] | Beirdo: | I did for over a year |
| [05:42:00] | sunilonln: | how's the quality? |
| [05:42:00] | Beirdo: | using a 9600 Pro now |
| [05:42:00] | Beirdo: | not bad at all |
| [05:42:00] | sunilonln: | i'm thinking of getting one (it's only $23 on newegg) |
| [05:42:00] | Beirdo: | mine didn't have s-video, that's why I swittched |
| [05:42:00] | sunilonln: | wondering if it's the best route |
| [05:44:00] | fryfrog: | anyone watching Samurai Champloo? |
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| [06:01:00] | Cardoe: | fryfrog: got one recorded for a friend |
| [06:01:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: did you have to use gatos for out? |
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| [06:04:00] | sunilonln: | Beirdo: would it make a significant difference between a 9200se with 64 or 128mb? |
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| [06:05:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [06:05:00] | Beirdo: | no gatos |
| [06:05:00] | Beirdo: | ATI binary drivers |
| [06:05:00] | Cardoe: | ah |
| [06:06:00] | sunilonln: | was the first no directed at me? |
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| [06:18:00] | Beirdo: | sunilonln: I expect it woould only make a difference in the resolutions you can use |
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| [06:18:00] | sunilonln: | ok |
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| [06:18:00] | sunilonln: | newegg is giving me the choice between the same card with 64 and 128, but the latter is refurbished, and i'm trying to decide whether it's worth giving up the retail warranty for a 15-day one |
| [06:19:00] | Beirdo: | meh, whatever |
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| [06:22:00] | sunilonln: | if myth will perform fine with 64, i'm thinking i'll go with that |
| [06:22:00] | Beirdo: | I think mine was a 64 |
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| [06:29:00] | Beirdo: | jeez, rtsai1111... fix your crap client |
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| [06:33:00] | Agrajag-: | hey rtsai1111 enough already |
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| [06:36:00] | rtsai1111: | sorry |
| [06:36:00] | rtsai1111: | how else can I test my new .bitchxrc file? |
| [06:36:00] | rtsai1111: | the good news is I think I'm done :) |
| [06:38:00] | Agrajag-: | test it on a different server :P |
| [06:38:00] | rtsai1111: | won't they just tell me the same thing? I figured 130am would be idle and quiet, but I suppose I forgot about Aussies and such |
| [06:39:00] | Agrajag-: | there wont be people in #myth channels on other servers :P |
| [06:39:00] | Agrajag-: | by other servers i mean other networks of course |
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| [06:42:00] | lioux: | hi, I would like to know if there is a preferred (ppl know is good and it's cheap) usb ir transmitter that would work with lirc and mythv. I want my computer to be able to control the satellite decoder. I think a usb (can't use serial) ir transmitter would be best. I don't care much about also having a IR receiver for remote controlling the computer. I want cheap but good is 1st priority |
| [06:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | rtsai1111: Why not just create your own channel and test your stuff there out of the way |
| [06:42:00] | lioux: | I am aware of irboy-usb but I can't buy all the parts. I live in Brazil. The motorola IC is hard to get by. I couldn't find it in my city |
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| [07:47:00] | LaggyMcGee: | is there any way to "clean" the recordings directory – i.e. – delete any files that do not have a corresponding record in the database? |
| [07:48:00] | Agrajag-: | yes |
| [07:48:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Awesome. |
| [07:48:00] | LaggyMcGee: | Can you tell me what it is? |
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| [07:49:00] | Agrajag-: | well you could run that script in the contrib dir that finds files that dont have db entries that attempts to add them |
| [07:50:00] | Agrajag-: | or you could just check every file against your db by hand and delete ones you can't see an entry for |
| [07:58:00] | ** linagee just watched TheOC and Lost. lol. i hate that they jurk you around like that. ****CLIFFHANGER**** ** | |
| [07:58:00] | linagee: | my point is, there needs to be an option in mythtv that prevents this. lol. |
| [08:00:00] | Agrajag-: | there is |
| [08:01:00] | Agrajag-: | "don't record this show" |
| [08:01:00] | Agrajag-: | more to the point it's a user error |
| [08:01:00] | Agrajag-: | 'dont watch rubbish shows' |
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| [08:11:00] | fryfrog: | Agrajag-: what is that script called? |
| [08:12:00] | Agrajag-: | myth.rebuilddatabase.pl |
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| [08:13:00] | fryfrog: | thanks |
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| [10:27:00] | Ray-Ven: | hello again |
| [10:27:00] | Ray-Ven: | today someone here who wants to help with my "no sound" problem? |
| [10:29:00] | Ray-Ven: | :-/ |
| [10:29:00] | Ray-Ven: | thx Buddies |
| [10:32:00] | karim: | ? |
| [10:33:00] | Ray-Ven: | lol – just got a few probs with my mythtv sound i can't solve |
| [10:33:00] | Ray-Ven: | got sound with tvtime or KDEtv but not with mythtv |
| [10:35:00] | Ray-Ven: | no one can/want's to help? |
| [10:35:00] | fryfrog: | i just looked up the tennesse aquairum site and you can buy tickets online |
| [10:35:00] | fryfrog: | but they say there is a $1 per ticket fee AND $1 to the total order fee |
| [10:36:00] | ** Ray-Ven is totally confused ** | |
| [10:36:00] | fryfrog: | who the hell makes ONLINE tickets more expensive than IRL! |
| [10:37:00] | fryfrog: | Ray-Ven: bttv card? |
| [10:37:00] | Ray-Ven: | terratec cinergy 400 with saa7134 |
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| [10:37:00] | Ray-Ven: | ähm – good luck with you aquarium anyway ¿? |
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| [10:39:00] | fryfrog: | what driver does it use? |
| [10:39:00] | fryfrog: | do you use a pass through cable for audio? |
| [10:40:00] | Ray-Ven: | I think the driver iss called like the chip – saa7134. pass trough? U mean is it plugged to my soundcard or in a stereo? Tried both |
| [10:41:00] | johnp_: | Rey-Ven – (I thought you narrowed it down to a mixer issue somewhere – ran tvtime at the same time and got audio ? ) |
| [10:41:00] | Ray-Ven: | sorry – I'm from germany – and my english isn't that well |
| [10:41:00] | fryfrog: | i see, simple english then |
| [10:41:00] | fryfrog: | when tvtime works, how is audio setup? |
| [10:41:00] | Ray-Ven: | john – that s true – wenn i start mythtv – and tvtime – it works |
| [10:41:00] | fryfrog: | cable from tv card to sound card? |
| [10:42:00] | Agrajag-: | Ray-Ven: when tvtime exits, it messes with your mixer stuff and mutes things |
| [10:42:00] | Ray-Ven: | at this moment it s plugget into my stereo – but can change it – if nessaecary |
| [10:42:00] | Agrajag-: | so exit tvtime, fix your mixer settings, then try myth |
| [10:42:00] | fryfrog: | myth has to get audio some how |
| [10:42:00] | fryfrog: | myth RECORDS audio/video THEN plays it back |
| [10:42:00] | fryfrog: | ALWAYS |
| [10:43:00] | fryfrog: | so: if you send audio from tv card -> stereo ONLY |
| [10:43:00] | fryfrog: | myth NEVER actually gets any audio to record |
| [10:43:00] | Ray-Ven: | agrajag – but what does it mute?!?! |
| [10:44:00] | Agrajag-: | run alsamixer to find out |
| [10:44:00] | Ray-Ven: | fryfrog – so I have to plug into my soundcards Linein? |
| [10:44:00] | Agrajag-: | do what fryfrog is saying too |
| [10:44:00] | Agrajag-: | Ray-Ven: yes |
| [10:44:00] | fryfrog: | Ray-Ven: yes, BUT sometimes you can get lucky |
| [10:44:00] | fryfrog: | Ray-Ven: does your tv card feature built in audio? |
| [10:44:00] | fryfrog: | Ray-Ven: some bttv cards use alsa driver "snd-bt8x" and create /dev/dsp1 |
| [10:45:00] | fryfrog: | Ray-Ven: then you do NOT need audio cable from tvcard to line in on sound card |
| [10:45:00] | Ray-Ven: | built in audio? I don't know |
| [10:45:00] | fryfrog: | terratec cinergy 400 |
| [10:45:00] | fryfrog: | exact name/brand/model of card? |
| [10:45:00] | Ray-Ven: | fryfrog – well – it usually works – when plugged into stereo |
| [10:45:00] | Ray-Ven: | one sec |
| [10:46:00] | Agrajag-: | Ray-Ven: you gotta understand what fryfrog just said |
| [10:46:00] | Agrajag-: | how myth records the sound, then plays it back to you |
| [10:46:00] | Agrajag-: | if you dont have it plugged into the soundcard, myth wont be recording anything, so wont play you back anything |
| [10:47:00] | Ray-Ven: | i have one thing to add... |
| [10:47:00] | Ray-Ven: | when tvtime was on while mythtv was on – i could lower volume – and mythtv had sound |
| [10:47:00] | Agrajag-: | was it out of sync? |
| [10:47:00] | fryfrog: | let mey try to explain :) |
| [10:47:00] | Ray-Ven: | if not mutet – I could her that audio vomes 2times |
| [10:48:00] | Ray-Ven: | -v +c |
| [10:48:00] | Ray-Ven: | hmm – hard to explain |
| [10:48:00] | fryfrog: | do you know linux? |
| [10:48:00] | Agrajag-: | ok, i think it's just a mixer issue then |
| [10:48:00] | Ray-Ven: | well – I'm using it |
| [10:48:00] | fryfrog: | okay, do you understand what "cat /dev/video0 > file.mpg" would do? |
| [10:49:00] | Ray-Ven: | create a MPG from the source video0 I guess |
| [10:49:00] | fryfrog: | exactly |
| [10:49:00] | Ray-Ven: | plugged into soundcard now |
| [10:49:00] | fryfrog: | okay, this is how myth works: |
| [10:50:00] | fryfrog: | "cat /dev/video0 > file.mpg &" "mplayer file.mpg" |
| [10:50:00] | Ray-Ven: | I understood what you ment – by saying lineout has to go to linein of soundcard |
| [10:50:00] | fryfrog: | ah, kk |
| [10:50:00] | fryfrog: | now |
| [10:50:00] | fryfrog: | fire up alsamixergui |
| [10:50:00] | fryfrog: | turn line in up to 80% volume |
| [10:50:00] | Ray-Ven: | burns |
| [10:50:00] | fryfrog: | press the <space bar> (to make it "CAPTUR" device) |
| [10:51:00] | fryfrog: | then press the "M" key to MUTE it |
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| [10:51:00] | fryfrog: | understand? |
| [10:51:00] | Ray-Ven: | got it |
| [10:51:00] | fryfrog: | when you press space bar, do you see "CAPTUR" in red? |
| [10:51:00] | fryfrog: | some cards don't work like that |
| [10:52:00] | Ray-Ven: | is red |
| [10:52:00] | fryfrog: | with word "CAPTUR"? |
| [10:52:00] | fryfrog: | try myth now :) |
| [10:52:00] | fryfrog: | don't run tvtime at all |
| [10:52:00] | fryfrog: | tvtime will mess up mixer settings |
| [10:52:00] | Ray-Ven: | didn't |
| [10:53:00] | Ray-Ven: | sound was muted in alsamixer before mythtv was startet |
| [10:53:00] | Ray-Ven: | right? |
| [10:53:00] | fryfrog: | sort of |
| [10:53:00] | fryfrog: | line in is muted |
| [10:53:00] | fryfrog: | normal output is not |
| [10:53:00] | Ray-Ven: | sure – sorry – that s wat i ment |
| [10:54:00] | fryfrog: | k, yup hopefully it works. not sure though :( |
| [10:54:00] | Ray-Ven: | restarting myth – one sec |
| [10:54:00] | fryfrog: | that is why i like mpeg2 cards |
| [10:54:00] | fryfrog: | pvr250 makes "/dev/video0" which spits out mpeg2 with video AND audio :) |
| [10:56:00] | Ray-Ven: | :-( |
| [10:56:00] | Ray-Ven: | maybe I'm deaf |
| [10:56:00] | Ray-Ven: | :-D |
| [10:57:00] | Ray-Ven: | if i change volume – it changes in my mixer to – so this one should be right |
| [10:57:00] | Ray-Ven: | too |
| [10:57:00] | Ray-Ven: | and device is ALSA:default |
| [10:57:00] | Ray-Ven: | is there something wrong in myth-setup? |
| [10:59:00] | Agrajag-: | are you sure you're plugging it in the right place on your sound card? |
| [10:59:00] | Agrajag-: | and that line in is set to line in? my line in can act as two different things, in alsa it says "Line in as surround", and it's a on/off toggle (pressing the mute button) |
| [10:59:00] | fryfrog: | Ray-Ven: what is the sound device pointed to in mythsetup? |
| [11:00:00] | Ray-Ven: | definetely |
| [11:00:00] | fryfrog: | for example, maybe "/dev/video0" is the video and "/dev/dsp0" is your sound card? |
| [11:00:00] | Ray-Ven: | "/dev/dsp |
| [11:00:00] | fryfrog: | can you do "ls /dev/sound/*"? |
| [11:01:00] | fryfrog: | does that show you anything? |
| [11:01:00] | Ray-Ven: | line out of tvcard – into line in of soundcard – can't toggle to something else on this soundcard – but got to – the otherone can |
| [11:01:00] | fryfrog: | or do you see "/dev/dsp0" and "/dev/dsp1" maybe? |
| [11:01:00] | Ray-Ven: | mom |
| [11:02:00] | fryfrog: | for testing |
| [11:02:00] | Ray-Ven: | "ls /dev/sound/*" file not found |
| [11:02:00] | fryfrog: | what you can do is fire up tvtime NOW and see if you have sound |
| [11:02:00] | fryfrog: | i don't think you should |
| [11:02:00] | Ray-Ven: | got sound :-D |
| [11:02:00] | Ray-Ven: | in tvtime |
| [11:02:00] | fryfrog: | even with pass through cable? |
| [11:02:00] | fryfrog: | okay, with tvtime running |
| [11:02:00] | fryfrog: | open "alsamixergui" |
| [11:03:00] | fryfrog: | and change the volume of line in |
| [11:03:00] | Ray-Ven: | pass throug? |
| [11:03:00] | Ray-Ven: | oki |
| [11:03:00] | fryfrog: | cable from tv card -> sound card, line input |
| [11:03:00] | Ray-Ven: | yeah – got ot |
| [11:03:00] | Ray-Ven: | it |
| [11:03:00] | fryfrog: | if you change volume of "line in" / mute does it CHANGE? |
| [11:03:00] | Ray-Ven: | yes |
| [11:04:00] | fryfrog: | okay, if you unplug cable |
| [11:04:00] | fryfrog: | lose audio? |
| [11:04:00] | Ray-Ven: | yes |
| [11:04:00] | fryfrog: | okay, hummm |
| [11:04:00] | Ray-Ven: | strange hmh :-D |
| [11:04:00] | fryfrog: | is alsamixer still say "CAPTUR" on line input? |
| [11:04:00] | Ray-Ven: | yes |
| [11:05:00] | Ray-Ven: | 2 lights red |
| [11:05:00] | fryfrog: | volume is UP, MM buttons to mute it? |
| [11:05:00] | fryfrog: | exit tv time |
| [11:05:00] | Ray-Ven: | no – if mutet i got no sound |
| [11:05:00] | fryfrog: | thats okay |
| [11:05:00] | Ray-Ven: | backend is still runnin |
| [11:05:00] | fryfrog: | exit tvtime and mute lineinput |
| [11:05:00] | Ray-Ven: | should i restart it? |
| [11:05:00] | fryfrog: | should not need to |
| [11:05:00] | fryfrog: | just run mythfrontend |
| [11:06:00] | fryfrog: | you know [ and ] key is volume UP / DOWN in myth? |
| [11:06:00] | Ray-Ven: | maybe i have to add that we hav PAL in Germany – maybe he can't split audio from video or something?! Can that be? |
| [11:06:00] | fryfrog: | if tvtime makes audio, myth can record it :) |
| [11:07:00] | Ray-Ven: | changing volume in myth has no effect |
| [11:07:00] | fryfrog: | still no sound? |
| [11:07:00] | fryfrog: | bah! |
| [11:07:00] | fryfrog: | in alsamixergui |
| [11:07:00] | fryfrog: | can you change "CAPTUR" device and see if it works? |
| [11:07:00] | fryfrog: | then change back to line input? |
| [11:07:00] | Agrajag-: | maybe plug the cable from soundcard out to soundcard line in, play an mp3 or something and try using and soundrecorder to record it.. see if it works |
| [11:08:00] | Ray-Ven: | one sec |
| [11:08:00] | fryfrog: | is card FULL DUPLEX? |
| [11:08:00] | Ray-Ven: | yes |
| [11:08:00] | fryfrog: | OLD sound card cannot record and play at same time |
| [11:08:00] | fryfrog: | oh, tvtime works |
| [11:08:00] | fryfrog: | of course its full duplex |
| [11:09:00] | fryfrog: | hard problem, i do not have card like you |
| [11:09:00] | fryfrog: | somehow it must work, but i don't know |
| [11:09:00] | fryfrog: | try asking in 12 hours when more people around |
| [11:09:00] | fryfrog: | 6:00AM in USA |
| [11:09:00] | Ray-Ven: | oh – 12 here |
| [11:10:00] | Ray-Ven: | :-) |
| [11:10:00] | fryfrog: | germany? |
| [11:10:00] | Ray-Ven: | yes sir :-D |
| [11:10:00] | fryfrog: | what city? |
| [11:10:00] | Ray-Ven: | Freiburg |
| [11:10:00] | Ray-Ven: | u konw it? |
| [11:11:00] | Agrajag-: | i reckon you should just try recording anything with line-in.. just to see if it really is set to capture |
| [11:11:00] | Ray-Ven: | never done that before – hmm – record with audacity or something? |
| [11:11:00] | fryfrog: | Agrajag-: i do not think that is the problem |
| [11:11:00] | fryfrog: | tvtime obviously proves that sound is playing from the tv card -> sound card |
| [11:11:00] | Ray-Ven: | should i try my other soundcard maybe? |
| [11:12:00] | fryfrog: | how many columns in alsamixer? |
| [11:12:00] | fryfrog: | do you see one farther down that says "capture device"? |
| [11:12:00] | Agrajag-: | hey i just noticed my alsamixer has a seperate volumne control (right over on the right) for Capture |
| [11:12:00] | Ray-Ven: | at all? or line in columes |
| [11:12:00] | Agrajag-: | try pushing the volume on that up |
| [11:12:00] | Agrajag-: | if you have it |
| [11:12:00] | fryfrog: | see what agra says? |
| [11:12:00] | Ray-Ven: | oh |
| [11:12:00] | Ray-Ven: | one sec |
| [11:12:00] | fryfrog: | SOME cards, you goto ANOTHER "column" in the sound card |
| [11:12:00] | fryfrog: | and press the <space bar> |
| [11:13:00] | fryfrog: | and it will choose the "CAPTUR" device. |
| [11:13:00] | fryfrog: | might say "CD" or "LINE IN" or "AUX" or something |
| [11:14:00] | fryfrog: | http://fryfrog.com/gallery/Miscellaneous/aat |
| [11:14:00] | fryfrog: | he is alsamixergui with "CAPTUR" set |
| [11:14:00] | Ray-Ven: | hmm – says something about line LiveDrive |
| [11:14:00] | fryfrog: | that is OLD SB16 ISA sound card |
| [11:14:00] | Ray-Ven: | and Line2 LiveDrive |
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| [11:14:00] | fryfrog: | keep looking, it will have NO BAR to change volume |
| [11:15:00] | Ray-Ven: | and IEC958 LiveDrive – what ever THAT is |
| [11:15:00] | Ray-Ven: | has a bar :-) and changed it to 100% |
| [11:15:00] | Ray-Ven: | tryin frontend – brb |
| [11:15:00] | fryfrog: | i show picture |
| [11:15:00] | fryfrog: | did you see first picture? |
| [11:16:00] | Agrajag-: | Ray-Ven: here's what my alsamixergui looks like http://home.whatsbeef.net:1339/~filip/alsamixergui.png |
| [11:17:00] | Agrajag-: | you want the Line and Capture settings the same |
| [11:18:00] | fryfrog: | http://fryfrog.com/gallery/Miscellaneous/abt |
| [11:18:00] | fryfrog: | that is what yours MIGHT look like |
| [11:18:00] | fryfrog: | see "Mic Sele" option? |
| [11:18:00] | Ray-Ven: | kind of |
| [11:18:00] | fryfrog: | if i press space "Mic1" changes to "Mic2" |
| [11:18:00] | Ray-Ven: | but got no 2nd capture column |
| [11:19:00] | fryfrog: | YOURS would probably say <Capture> and change from "Line" or "CD" or something |
| [11:19:00] | fryfrog: | not even farther to the right or left, maybe a LONG ways away? |
| [11:19:00] | Agrajag-: | gtg bbl |
| [11:19:00] | Ray-Ven: | how about tryin the other card – it's way more simple |
| [11:19:00] | fryfrog: | okay :) |
| [11:19:00] | Ray-Ven: | oh – there s a Capture Column |
| [11:20:00] | Ray-Ven: | but cant change volume |
| [11:20:00] | fryfrog: | yes!? |
| [11:20:00] | fryfrog: | press <space bar> |
| [11:20:00] | Ray-Ven: | just on – or off |
| [11:20:00] | fryfrog: | does it change? |
| [11:20:00] | fryfrog: | turn it to "on"? |
| [11:20:00] | fryfrog: | what was it before? |
| [11:20:00] | Ray-Ven: | D'oh – even can't change that |
| [11:20:00] | Ray-Ven: | but it s on |
| [11:20:00] | fryfrog: | oh, sorry not "space" but up and down key |
| [11:21:00] | Ray-Ven: | huh?! That works |
| [11:21:00] | Ray-Ven: | strange |
| [11:21:00] | Ray-Ven: | tryin frontend |
| [11:21:00] | fryfrog: | on/off? |
| [11:21:00] | fryfrog: | see any others like it? |
| [11:21:00] | fryfrog: | to change text from "cd" or something to "line"? |
| [11:22:00] | Ray-Ven: | couldn't change volume by mouse – only bi arrow keys – strange – but still no sound |
| [11:23:00] | fryfrog: | need person with experience with bttv or that card |
| [11:23:00] | fryfrog: | since bttv works very simliar |
| [11:23:00] | fryfrog: | try other sound card i guess? |
| [11:24:00] | Ray-Ven: | oki – one moment |
| [11:24:00] | gnarface: | hello everyone. |
| [11:24:00] | gnarface: | how's shit? |
| [11:24:00] | splAt1 is now known as splat1 | |
| [11:24:00] | gnarface: | any lirc_serial geniuses in the house? |
| [11:25:00] | Ray-Ven: | hey – I'm not :-D |
| [11:25:00] | gnarface: | fryfrog: what's your bttv problem? |
| [11:26:00] | Ray-Ven: | no sound with second card |
| [11:27:00] | Ray-Ven: | oh – none with tvtime too |
| [11:27:00] | Ray-Ven: | one sec |
| [11:28:00] | gnarface: | not using cables right? |
| [11:28:00] | Ray-Ven: | ouch! got sound in Tvtime |
| [11:28:00] | Ray-Ven: | :-D |
| [11:28:00] | gnarface: | to get sound with both cards you need the alsa btaudio device, right? and a bt878 card instead of 848 |
| [11:28:00] | gnarface: | ... or something like that. |
| [11:28:00] | Ray-Ven: | gnarface – thy – but got sound in TVtime – not in mythtv |
| [11:29:00] | Ray-Ven: | -y +x |
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| [11:30:00] | gnarface: | Ray-Ven: aah. does myth use oss? |
| [11:31:00] | Ray-Ven: | hmm – my device is ALSA:default |
| [11:31:00] | Ray-Ven: | in frontend |
| [11:31:00] | gnarface: | maybe this is something you have to use jack for? |
| [11:31:00] | gnarface: | to mux the two sound outputs into a single device so mythfrontend can use it..? |
| [11:31:00] | gnarface: | hmm. i'm in over my head. i'm just speculating. |
| [11:31:00] | Ray-Ven: | two sound outputs? |
| [11:32:00] | gnarface: | well |
| [11:32:00] | gnarface: | both tv cards have a sound output right? |
| [11:32:00] | Ray-Ven: | ah – got one TVcard – but 2 Soundcards |
| [11:32:00] | gnarface: | *blink* |
| [11:32:00] | gnarface: | what the hell for? |
| [11:32:00] | gnarface: | two sets of speakers? |
| [11:33:00] | Ray-Ven: | lol – no – got 5.1 with the first one – and Headphones with the 2nd |
| [11:33:00] | gnarface: | ok. interesting. |
| [11:33:00] | fryfrog: | gnarface: its not me with the problem, its ray. also, he has a different sound card (not bttv) |
| [11:33:00] | Ray-Ven: | right |
| [11:33:00] | gnarface: | noted. ok. i'm catching up. |
| [11:33:00] | fryfrog: | oops |
| [11:33:00] | gnarface: | i've had a few drinks. |
| [11:33:00] | fryfrog: | differnt tv card :) |
| [11:33:00] | Ray-Ven: | do you need something specific of my card? |
| [11:33:00] | fryfrog: | ahha |
| [11:33:00] | gnarface: | yea, that one i filled in. |
| [11:33:00] | gnarface: | ok |
| [11:33:00] | gnarface: | so you have two soundcards |
| [11:34:00] | Ray-Ven: | sir yes sir :-d |
| [11:34:00] | gnarface: | and tvtime outputs to both of them but myth only one? |
| [11:34:00] | gnarface: | sounds like more of a feature than a bug |
| [11:34:00] | gnarface: | have you ever heard of the alsa's jack plugin? |
| [11:34:00] | Ray-Ven: | noooo :-D got no sound at all – with mythtv |
| [11:34:00] | Ray-Ven: | but works with both cards in tvtime |
| [11:34:00] | gnarface: | oooh. i see. |
| [11:35:00] | gnarface: | ALSA:default |
| [11:35:00] | gnarface: | ? |
| [11:35:00] | gnarface: | have you tried replacing that with whatever alsa's notation is for either of your soundcards? |
| [11:35:00] | gnarface: | wait a minute. isn't it past your bedtime? |
| [11:36:00] | fryfrog: | gnarface: his problem is not that myth isn't PLAYING sound |
| [11:36:00] | fryfrog: | gnarface: its that myth isn't RECORDING it |
| [11:36:00] | Ray-Ven: | lol – no 12:30 in the morning :-D |
| [11:36:00] | fryfrog: | Ray-Ven: you might check out mythsetup |
| [11:36:00] | fryfrog: | I think you can point the "audio input" option to "ALSA:default" instead of /dev/dsp |
| [11:36:00] | fryfrog: | but that would probably be sound card 1 |
| [11:36:00] | fryfrog: | also, i really really suck with ALSA :) |
| [11:37:00] | gnarface: | alsa's notation is like grub's isn't it? |
| [11:37:00] | gnarface: | hw:0,0 |
| [11:37:00] | gnarface: | like that |
| [11:37:00] | gnarface: | for the first soundcard |
| [11:37:00] | gnarface: | i think |
| [11:37:00] | gnarface: | try that |
| [11:37:00] | Skaface_: | card number, device number |
| [11:38:00] | Ray-Ven: | like 1, /dev/dsp0 or something? |
| [11:38:00] | Skaface_: | no |
| [11:38:00] | Skaface_: | 1,0 |
| [11:38:00] | Ray-Ven: | ah |
| [11:38:00] | Ray-Ven: | in myth-setup? |
| [11:39:00] | Skaface_: | i guess so |
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| [11:40:00] | Ray-Ven: | as audiodevice |
| [11:40:00] | Skaface_: | yeah |
| [11:40:00] | Ray-Ven: | he only accepts /dev/dsp* |
| [11:40:00] | Ray-Ven: | can't save something else |
| [11:40:00] | Skaface_: | backspace it |
| [11:40:00] | Skaface_: | and type in the new value |
| [11:40:00] | Ray-Ven: | sure |
| [11:40:00] | Ray-Ven: | i did |
| [11:40:00] | Ray-Ven: | but he doesn't save it |
| [11:41:00] | Skaface_: | alsa:hw,0,0 |
| [11:41:00] | Skaface_: | ? |
| [11:41:00] | Skaface_: | er |
| [11:41:00] | Skaface_: | alsa:hw:0,0 |
| [11:41:00] | Skaface_: | i guess? |
| [11:41:00] | Skaface_: | ive always used a .asoundrc |
| [11:42:00] | ** Skaface_ un-butts in ** | |
| [11:42:00] | Ray-Ven: | still not saving it |
| [11:42:00] | Ray-Ven: | strange |
| [11:42:00] | Ray-Ven: | worked in frontend though |
| [11:42:00] | Skaface_: | try just alsa:default |
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| [11:44:00] | Ray-Ven: | nope – alsa:default doesn't work – only in frontend |
| [11:44:00] | Ray-Ven: | http://tvde.terratec.net/modules.php?op=modlo . . . b0df2fb572f4 |
| [11:44:00] | Ray-Ven: | my card – by the way |
| [11:44:00] | Ray-Ven: | didn't find a english site |
| [11:45:00] | Ray-Ven: | hey look at that : http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2003-April/003273.html |
| [11:46:00] | gnarface: | uh |
| [11:46:00] | gnarface: | can it be changed in the database or something? |
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| [11:47:00] | Ray-Ven: | hmm – i dunno how?! |
| [11:47:00] | gnarface: | one sec. |
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| [11:47:00] | gnarface: | i havn't bothered looking at the tables yet |
| [11:47:00] | gnarface: | it can't be hard. |
| [11:47:00] | AndyCap: | Hmm, is there any legit and inexpensive way to develop software for the xbox? |
| [11:48:00] | Ray-Ven: | I think it's using oss – not alsa |
| [11:48:00] | gnarface: | omg |
| [11:48:00] | gnarface: | lol |
| [11:48:00] | gnarface: | +----------------------------+ |
| [11:48:00] | gnarface: | | Tables_in_mythconverg | |
| [11:48:00] | gnarface: | +----------------------------+ |
| [11:48:00] | gnarface: | | callsignnetworkmap | |
| [11:48:00] | gnarface: | | capturecard | |
| [11:48:00] | gnarface: | | cardinput | |
| [11:48:00] | gnarface: | | channel | |
| [11:48:00] | gnarface: | | codecparams | |
| [11:48:00] | gnarface: | | conflictresolutionany | |
| [11:48:00] | gnarface: | | conflictresolutionoverride | |
| [11:48:00] | gnarface: | | conflictresolutionsingle | |
| [11:48:00] | gnarface: | | credits | |
| [11:48:00] | Agrajag-: | oi dont do that....... |
| [11:48:00] | gnarface: | | dtv_multiplex | |
| [11:48:00] | gnarface: | | dtv_privatetypes | |
| [11:48:00] | gnarface: | | dvb_channel | |
| [11:48:00] | gnarface: | | dvb_pids | |
| [11:48:00] | gnarface: | | dvb_sat | |
| [11:48:00] | gnarface: | | dvb_signal_quality | |
| [11:48:00] | gnarface: | | favorites | |
| [11:48:00] | gnarface: | | filemarkup | |
| [11:48:00] | gnarface: | | gallerymetadata | |
| [11:48:00] | gnarface: | | housekeeping | |
| [11:48:00] | gnarface: | | jobqueue | |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | jumppoints | |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | keybindings | |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | keyword | |
| [11:49:00] | Ray-Ven: | what the hell?! |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | musicmetadata | |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | musicplaylist | |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | mythlog | |
| [11:49:00] | Skaface_: | ... |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | networkiconmap | |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | oldfind | |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | oldprogram | |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | oldrecorded | |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | people | |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | profilegroups | |
| [11:49:00] | Skaface_: | i have to pay for this data |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | program | |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | programgenres | |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | programrating | |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | recgrouppassword | |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | record | |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | recorded | |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | recordedcredits | |
| [11:49:00] | Ray-Ven: | what das he want to tell us? |
| [11:49:00] | Ray-Ven: | :-D |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | recordedmarkup | |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | recordedprogram | |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | recordedrating | |
| [11:49:00] | Ray-Ven: | does |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | recordingprofiles | |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | recordmatch | |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | recordoverride | |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | schemalock | |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | settings | |
| [11:49:00] | gnarface: | | smartplaylist | |
| [11:50:00] | gnarface: | | smartplaylistcategory | |
| [11:50:00] | gnarface: | | smartplaylistitem | |
| [11:50:00] | gnarface: | | videobookmarks | |
| [11:50:00] | gnarface: | | videocategory | |
| [11:50:00] | gnarface: | | videocountry | |
| [11:50:00] | gnarface: | | videogenre | |
| [11:50:00] | Skaface_: | ill be back in 5 mins |
| [11:50:00] | gnarface: | | videometadata | |
| [11:50:00] | gnarface: | | videometadatacountry | |
| [11:50:00] | gnarface: | | videometadatagenre | |
| [11:50:00] | Ray-Ven: | lol |
| [11:50:00] | gnarface: | | videosource | |
| [11:50:00] | gnarface: | | videotypes | |
| [11:50:00] | gnarface: | | websites | |
| [11:50:00] | gnarface: | +----------------------------+ |
| [11:50:00] | gnarface: | 60 rows in set (0.00 sec) |
| [11:50:00] | Agrajag-: | gnarface i cannot believe you just did that..... |
| [11:50:00] | gnarface: | sorry |
| [11:50:00] | Skaface_: | ...and im back |
| [11:50:00] | gnarface: | that was rude i know |
| [11:50:00] | gnarface: | very sorry |
| [11:50:00] | gnarface: | didn't think |
| [11:50:00] | gnarface: | someone take a guess at which one has it |
| [11:50:00] | gnarface: | i thought you were having a problem changing the audio device |
| [11:50:00] | gnarface: | but that was right before you mentioned oss |
| [11:50:00] | gnarface: | Agrajag-: am i in trouble? |
| [11:51:00] | Skaface_ is now known as Skaface | |
| [11:51:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah, your mum wants to talk to you |
| [11:51:00] | Agrajag-: | go and see her |
| [11:51:00] | Ray-Ven: | lol |
| [11:51:00] | gnarface: | Skaface: you're paying volume bandwidth seriously? |
| [11:51:00] | AndyCap: | it is in settings afaik, and dont freaking paste the dump. |
| [11:51:00] | Skaface: | no |
| [11:51:00] | Skaface: | :P |
| [11:51:00] | Ray-Ven: | I have to add somethin – i use suse RPMs |
| [11:51:00] | gnarface: | AndyCap: no problem. |
| [11:51:00] | Ray-Ven: | :-O |
| [11:52:00] | AndyCap: | use a web pasting service. |
| [11:53:00] | gnarface: | it won't happen again. |
| [11:53:00] | gnarface: | i swear. |
| [11:54:00] | gnarface: | i see AudioDevice and AudioOutputDevice |
| [11:54:00] | gnarface: | they're both set to /dev/dsp |
| [11:54:00] | gnarface: | on mine |
| [11:54:00] | Skaface: | hold on, let me paste mine |
| [11:54:00] | gnarface: | but i only have one soundcard |
| [11:54:00] | gnarface: | do it do it |
| [11:54:00] | gnarface: | DecodeExtraAudio |
| [11:54:00] | gnarface: | ? |
| [11:54:00] | gnarface: | PVR350InternalAudioOnly? |
| [11:55:00] | Ray-Ven: | huh? |
| [11:55:00] | Skaface: | +----------------------------+ |
| [11:55:00] | Skaface: | | Tables_in_mythconverg | |
| [11:55:00] | Skaface: | +----------------------------+ |
| [11:55:00] | Ray-Ven: | D'Oh |
| [11:55:00] | Agrajag-: | ahahaha |
| [11:55:00] | Skaface: | tricked you |
| [11:55:00] | Ray-Ven: | hrhr |
| [11:56:00] | Ray-Ven: | "i see AudioDevice and AudioOutputDevice" where? |
| [11:56:00] | AndyCap: | mythconverg.settings i guess |
| [11:57:00] | gnarface: | do you want to change them? |
| [11:57:00] | gnarface: | i'm not clear on that anymore |
| [11:57:00] | Skaface: | yeah, in my capture card settings, it uses /dev/dsp |
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| [11:58:00] | Ray-Ven: | is there a difference between a capture card and a normal TV Card? |
| [11:58:00] | Skaface: | when i say capture card i mean tv card |
| [11:59:00] | Ray-Ven: | allright – just wanted to be 100% clear |
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| [11:59:00] | Skaface: | in my frontend i am using ALSA:nforce as the sound device |
| [12:00:00] | Skaface: | and i have nforce specified in ~/.asoundrc |
| [12:00:00] | Skaface: | to go to card 0 device 2 |
| [12:00:00] | Skaface: | device 2 is the digital sound out on card 0 |
| [12:00:00] | Skaface: | on my sound card |
| [12:01:00] | Ray-Ven: | I have analog Cards?! Do I get something wrong?! Sorry – I'm german – and not that experienced in english |
| [12:01:00] | Skaface: | no, analog is normal |
| [12:02:00] | Ray-Ven: | maybe i have to give a "sound on" command into my mic – like on Enterprise |
| [12:02:00] | Ray-Ven: | :-D |
| [12:03:00] | Skaface: | lol |
| [12:03:00] | Ray-Ven: | hmm – didn't work – hehehe |
| [12:04:00] | Skaface: | cat /proc/asound/devices |
| [12:04:00] | Ray-Ven: | i don't have a ~./asound thing |
| [12:04:00] | Skaface: | doesn't matter |
| [12:05:00] | Ray-Ven: | /proc/asound/ that one i have |
| [12:05:00] | Ray-Ven: | but no device folder in there |
| [12:05:00] | Skaface: | maybe you are using oss, not alsa |
| [12:05:00] | Ray-Ven: | that s what i think – but how to change that? |
| [12:06:00] | Skaface: | do you need to change it? |
| [12:06:00] | Skaface: | hang on, im confused as to what we are doing |
| [12:06:00] | Ray-Ven: | the devices should be okay – with /dev/dsp0 in setup and ALSA:default in frontend |
| [12:06:00] | Ray-Ven: | I have no sound in MYthtv – but in other tv applications |
| [12:06:00] | Ray-Ven: | that s the prob |
| [12:07:00] | Skaface: | ok |
| [12:07:00] | Skaface: | i guess you could try something like cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp0 |
| [12:07:00] | Skaface: | and see if it makes noises |
| [12:07:00] | Agrajag-: | that's not the problem |
| [12:07:00] | Agrajag-: | he has sound |
| [12:07:00] | Agrajag-: | tvtime gives him sound |
| [12:07:00] | Skaface: | yeah, but i want to verify that its dsp0 |
| [12:08:00] | Skaface: | and not something odd |
| [12:08:00] | Agrajag-: | just his capture doesn't seem to be working, or mixer settings are wrong |
| [12:08:00] | Agrajag-: | ah ok |
| [12:08:00] | Ray-Ven: | cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp0 doesn't bring sound?! Should it? which source is it recording? |
| [12:09:00] | Ray-Ven: | got sound on amarok with gstreamer alsasink on dep0 |
| [12:09:00] | Ray-Ven: | dsp0 |
| [12:09:00] | Ray-Ven: | if that helps?! |
| [12:09:00] | gnarface: | hey Skaface you're an alsa fiend so you know how to setup jack right? |
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| [12:10:00] | Skaface: | never played with jack |
| [12:11:00] | Skaface: | Ray-Ven: open your mixer software |
| [12:11:00] | Skaface: | aumix or something? |
| [12:12:00] | Skaface: | is your tv card plugged into the sound cards line-in? |
| [12:12:00] | karim: | hi |
| [12:13:00] | karim: | anyone have a wintv pvr ? |
| [12:13:00] | karim: | I am wondering how is the capture quality trough composite and s vhs |
| [12:13:00] | karim: | I currently have a PC TV RAVE |
| [12:13:00] | karim: | and the capture is ugly with composite |
| [12:14:00] | karim: | I am interested in the wintv pvr 150, but I am not sure it's supported on linux |
| [12:15:00] | Ray-Ven: | got alsamixergui – kmix – qamix – kamix.... which one do you want? |
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| [12:15:00] | Skaface: | Ray-Ven: you are the one using it :P |
| [12:15:00] | Skaface: | is your tv card plugged into the sound cards line-in? |
| [12:16:00] | Ray-Ven: | okay – kmix then |
| [12:16:00] | Skaface: | with a cable |
| [12:16:00] | Ray-Ven: | si senor |
| [12:16:00] | Skaface: | ok |
| [12:16:00] | karim: | is there a a command line editor to mythtv ? |
| [12:16:00] | Ray-Ven: | with what else?! If not a cable? |
| [12:16:00] | karim: | I want to know if I can make a programm remotely |
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| [12:16:00] | karim: | without the front end |
| [12:16:00] | Agrajag-: | karim: mythweb ? |
| [12:16:00] | Skaface: | line-in volume should be up, set to mute, and set to record |
| [12:16:00] | Skaface: | pcm volume should be up and not muted |
| [12:16:00] | karim: | Agrajag-: oh intersting |
| [12:17:00] | Ray-Ven: | is |
| [12:17:00] | karim: | Agrajag-: I am currently at work, I can ssh through https, so I was thinking installing the front end on windows |
| [12:17:00] | karim: | but that's the heavy solution |
| [12:18:00] | Skaface: | Ray-Ven: what tv card do you have? |
| [12:19:00] | Agrajag-: | what do you want to do exactly? mythweb will let you view the guide, set/chagne recordings etc. |
| [12:19:00] | Ray-Ven: | terratec cinergy 400 using saa7134 |
| [12:19:00] | Skaface: | hmm ok |
| [12:19:00] | karim: | Agrajag-: I want to set a recording |
| [12:20:00] | Skaface: | so set your capture card sound input to use /dev/dsp0 |
| [12:20:00] | Agrajag-: | karim: mythweb is what you want |
| [12:20:00] | Skaface: | and also your frontend setup, tell that to use /dev/dsp0 |
| [12:20:00] | Ray-Ven: | oki – one moment |
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| [12:21:00] | Skaface: | maybe tell mythtv to not touch your capture card volume settings in the capture card config |
| [12:21:00] | karim: | Agrajag-: ok |
| [12:21:00] | karim: | Agrajag-: is it apache cgi or does it use own web server ? |
| [12:22:00] | karim: | I can't acces outside to all the ports |
| [12:22:00] | Agrajag-: | karim: it's php |
| [12:22:00] | karim: | I stil can forward them through tunnel |
| [12:22:00] | karim: | ok |
| [12:22:00] | Agrajag-: | so if you can do https apache should be fine |
| [12:23:00] | Agrajag-: | bbl |
| [12:23:00] | Skaface: | my saa7134 picture is heaps better than the bt878 |
| [12:23:00] | Skaface: | ^random fact |
| [12:24:00] | karim: | Agrajag-: I don't have setted up https |
| [12:24:00] | karim: | I don't know how to by the way |
| [12:25:00] | karim: | I mean https server on my PC |
| [12:25:00] | Ray-Ven: | no sound |
| [12:26:00] | Skaface: | hmm |
| [12:27:00] | Skaface: | i have a script here that manually sets the tv capture card settings |
| [12:27:00] | Skaface: | but i'm not sure if its for a bt878 or a saa7134 card |
| [12:27:00] | Skaface: | /usr/bin/test_ioctl -y volume=60000 |
| [12:27:00] | Skaface: | /usr/bin/test_ioctl -y mute=0 |
| [12:27:00] | Skaface: | try that i guess |
| [12:28:00] | Ray-Ven: | file or folder not found |
| [12:28:00] | karim: | there is an infrared module that can control cable or sattelite demodulator on the wintv PVR150. Anyone know if linux supports this ? |
| [12:28:00] | Skaface: | i thought you would have that problem...... i forget where i got that program from |
| [12:28:00] | Skaface: | linux is fun! |
| [12:29:00] | Skaface: | i think test_ioctl comes with ivtv |
| [12:30:00] | Ray-Ven: | hmm – while all these changes is never restarted the backend?! Is that a problem? |
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| [12:30:00] | Ray-Ven: | didn't install ivtv |
| [12:30:00] | Skaface: | i think you should be restarting the backend |
| [12:30:00] | Skaface: | maybe try installing the backend |
| [12:30:00] | Skaface: | er |
| [12:30:00] | Skaface: | ivtv i meant |
| [12:31:00] | Ray-Ven: | but i got picture – just no sound |
| [12:31:00] | Skaface: | i'm pretty sure i had the same problem, which is why i had that script run before myth |
| [12:31:00] | Skaface: | with my saa7134 card |
| [12:32:00] | Ray-Ven: | ivtv installed |
| [12:33:00] | Skaface: | now try those 2 commands |
| [12:33:00] | Skaface: | close the backend, then run those commands, then start the backend |
| [12:33:00] | Skaface: | then the frontend |
| [12:34:00] | Skaface: | ah, it shouldnt really matter if myth is already running though i suppose |
| [12:34:00] | Ray-Ven: | test_ioctl has been renamed to ivtvctl. Use that instead! |
| [12:35:00] | Ray-Ven: | oki |
| [12:35:00] | Ray-Ven: | using ivtvctl |
| [12:35:00] | Ray-Ven: | ioctl: VIDIOC_S_CTRL |
| [12:35:00] | Ray-Ven: | ioctl: VIDIOC_S_CTRL success |
| [12:36:00] | Ray-Ven: | what the hell am i doing here?! |
| [12:36:00] | Ray-Ven: | lol |
| [12:36:00] | Skaface: | just temporarily changing the mixer settings in the actual tv card |
| [12:37:00] | Ray-Ven: | S-O-U-N-D |
| [12:37:00] | Ray-Ven: | YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH |
| [12:37:00] | Skaface: | :D |
| [12:37:00] | Skaface: | sweet |
| [12:37:00] | Ray-Ven: | *jump* *giggle* |
| [12:37:00] | Ray-Ven: | :-D |
| [12:37:00] | Skaface: | so yeah, you will probably have to get it to run those 2 commands before it starts myth |
| [12:37:00] | Ray-Ven: | but f***ing loooooud |
| [12:38:00] | Skaface: | as well as those 2 lines, i also had the following 2: |
| [12:39:00] | Skaface: | /usr/bin/amixer sset Aux,0 80%,80% mute cap |
| [12:39:00] | Skaface: | /usr/bin/amixer sset Capture,0 30%,30% cap |
| [12:39:00] | Skaface: | might need to change Aux to Line |
| [12:39:00] | Skaface: | or Line1 |
| [12:39:00] | Skaface: | or something |
| [12:39:00] | Skaface: | whatever your line input is called |
| [12:39:00] | Ray-Ven: | line |
| [12:39:00] | Ray-Ven: | is right |
| [12:40:00] | Skaface: | cool |
| [12:40:00] | Ray-Ven: | sounds great now! |
| [12:40:00] | Ray-Ven: | Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssss |
| [12:40:00] | Skaface: | excellent |
| [12:40:00] | Ray-Ven: | :D |
| [12:41:00] | Ray-Ven: | but – hmm – what was the problem then?! |
| [12:42:00] | Skaface: | i think mythtv accidently mutes the tv capture card sound |
| [12:42:00] | Skaface: | like, on the actual tv card |
| [12:42:00] | Skaface: | either a glitch in mythtv or a glitch in the driver |
| [12:42:00] | Skaface: | the mythtv developers will blame the driver |
| [12:43:00] | Skaface: | the driver developers will blame mythtv |
| [12:43:00] | Skaface: | :P |
| [12:43:00] | Ray-Ven: | lol |
| [12:43:00] | Ray-Ven: | hmm |
| [12:43:00] | Ray-Ven: | so i have to script that – right |
| [12:43:00] | Ray-Ven: | ? |
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| [12:44:00] | Skaface: | yeah, i just put it in a bash script and get .Xsession to execute it |
| [12:44:00] | Skaface: | i stuck them in a file called "soundon" |
| [12:45:00] | Ray-Ven: | hmm – I'm not that experienced with that – can you help me out with it? |
| [12:45:00] | Skaface: | sure |
| [12:45:00] | Skaface: | just make a new file called soundon |
| [12:45:00] | Skaface: | and put the following in it |
| [12:45:00] | Ray-Ven: | did it |
| [12:45:00] | Ray-Ven: | soundon.? |
| [12:46:00] | Skaface: | #!/bin/sh |
| [12:46:00] | Skaface: | then those 4 commands |
| [12:48:00] | Ray-Ven: | oki |
| [12:48:00] | Ray-Ven: | so is it soundon.sh? |
| [12:48:00] | Skaface: | then save and close that file |
| [12:48:00] | Skaface: | if you want..... i just called it soundon |
| [12:48:00] | Skaface: | linux files dont need extensions |
| [12:49:00] | Ray-Ven: | that s true – but still people use extensions – so i thougt i might need it |
| [12:49:00] | Skaface: | its up to you :) |
| [12:49:00] | Ray-Ven: | well – maybe the wiki shoud be extended? |
| [12:49:00] | karim: | how to acces myhthweb page on ubuntu/debian ? |
| [12:50:00] | Ray-Ven: | uhm – how do i run this script on startup? |
| [12:50:00] | lucas333: | karim: a bit more specific question would help |
| [12:52:00] | Ray-Ven: | Skaface? |
| [12:52:00] | Skaface: | Ray-Ven: make the script executable if you havent done so already |
| [12:53:00] | Ray-Ven: | hmm |
| [12:53:00] | Skaface: | chmod 700 soundon.sh |
| [12:53:00] | Skaface: | should do |
| [12:54:00] | Ray-Ven: | well – I made it as user – not root – should be enough?! no? |
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| [12:55:00] | Skaface: | if you stick it in the init scripts, it will be run as root |
| [12:55:00] | Skaface: | depends where you run it from |
| [12:55:00] | Skaface: | init script is probably the way to go |
| [12:56:00] | Ray-Ven: | where do i have to put it? |
| [12:56:00] | Skaface: | what dist do you use? |
| [12:56:00] | Ray-Ven: | suse |
| [12:56:00] | Skaface: | oh |
| [12:56:00] | Skaface: | youll have to find out from someone who knows suse |
| [12:56:00] | Skaface: | you just want to execute that script that you just made from the init scripts |
| [12:57:00] | Ray-Ven: | i'm googleing ;-) |
| [12:57:00] | Ray-Ven: | one sec |
| [12:58:00] | Ray-Ven: | should they run indirectly or directly?! |
| [12:59:00] | Skaface: | hmm |
| [12:59:00] | Skaface: | dont know? |
| [12:59:00] | Ray-Ven: | what ever that means :-d |
| [12:59:00] | Skaface: | do you have a file called /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh ? |
| [13:00:00] | Ray-Ven: | no – but a lot other boot*.sh things :-) |
| [13:01:00] | Skaface: | lol ok then |
| [13:01:00] | Ray-Ven: | but afaik – i just have to put it into the indirect folder |
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| [13:01:00] | Skaface: | ok then, well i'll leave it with you, as ive never used suse in my life |
| [13:01:00] | Skaface: | i need some sleep too :) |
| [13:02:00] | Ray-Ven: | oh |
| [13:02:00] | Ray-Ven: | then thanks a lot Skaface – and Agrajag, gnarface and the others who helped me out! |
| [13:02:00] | Skaface: | no problem |
| [13:03:00] | Ray-Ven: | next time I'll drink a Wodka it'll be for you guys :-d |
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| [14:25:00] | duckeo: | Anyone ever see 'floating point exception' errors when loading mythfrontend? |
| [14:25:00] | duckeo: | is there a more detailed log I can look at to see what's going on? |
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| [14:28:00] | NightStorm: | i usually just run 'mythfrontend -v' and switch back to the terminal window to see the output |
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| [14:36:00] | duckeo: | i think i found the cause, mythfrontend doesn't seem to like the resolution i'm running at |
| [14:36:00] | duckeo: | 1280x720 |
| [14:36:00] | duckeo: | i put it back to 1024x768 on my CRT and it loads up fine |
| [14:37:00] | NightStorm: | yeah i had some issues with resolution before as well |
| [14:37:00] | NightStorm: | finally got it running at 960x540 |
| [14:38:00] | duckeo: | it must be in the code that rescales the theme images |
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| [14:50:00] | NightStorm: | anyone here know why i keep getting console messages telling me kernel: Disabling IRQ #7 |
| [14:51:00] | NightStorm: | irq7 is being used by ehci_hcd |
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| [15:04:00] | FaithX: | Does anyone know why when you watch ripped DVD or TV on PC it has a band of jibberish down at the bottem? |
| [15:06:00] | FaithX: | As if part of the top of the screen wraps at the bottom. |
| [15:06:00] | CyberKnet: | *yawn* |
| [15:06:00] | CyberKnet: | FaithX: no idea |
| [15:07:00] | ** CyberKnet doesn't watch DVDs on his myth box ** | |
| [15:07:00] | CyberKnet: | or rip them, for that matter |
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| [15:15:00] | Beirdo: | yay |
| [15:15:00] | Esotericisms: | morning everyone |
| [15:15:00] | Beirdo: | just used Winamp to decode a ripped CD (from RealAudio) to WAV |
| [15:15:00] | Beirdo: | then ogg encoded it :) |
| [15:15:00] | Beirdo: | yay |
| [15:16:00] | Beirdo: | saves me finding the CD to rip it again |
| [15:16:00] | Esotericisms: | well my remote still doesn't work ... |
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| [15:17:00] | Beirdo: | I guess I should either go to work or call in sick... |
| [15:17:00] | gnarface: | 'morning |
| [15:17:00] | gnarface: | hey |
| [15:17:00] | gnarface: | anyone know a way to force cedega to play nice with dmix? |
| [15:17:00] | gnarface: | world of warcraft desperately needs a weezer soundtrack :-p |
| [15:18:00] | Esotericisms: | Beirdo, that would probably be a good thing |
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| [15:18:00] | Esotericisms: | anyone with knowlege of ivtv and lirc care to help me troubleshoot my remote now working issue? |
| [15:18:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: not feeling well? |
| [15:18:00] | Esotericisms: | now = not* |
| [15:19:00] | Beirdo: | had a nasty cold all week |
| [15:19:00] | CyberKnet: | Esotericisms: weren't you searching the ivtv list for help with that? |
| [15:19:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: aah. I've had allergies all year. |
| [15:19:00] | Beirdo: | but I had to train the support staff the last couple days so I had to be in. |
| [15:19:00] | Esotericisms: | yeah, I can't seem to get it working though ... |
| [15:19:00] | Beirdo: | today I can work from home, so I think I'll call in and say that. |
| [15:20:00] | Esotericisms: | CyberKnet: this is the error that I get when lircd is running and I try using irw -> http://pastebin.ca/12208 |
| [15:20:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: did you catch the sfgate article that said the FCC gave voip providers 120 days to implement 911 access for all their clientelle? |
| [15:21:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [15:21:00] | Beirdo: | why would I care? |
| [15:21:00] | CyberKnet: | Esotericisms: I can't help you. I use an ir keyboard to avoid those kind of issues |
| [15:21:00] | Beirdo: | CRTC already made that ruling a month ago here |
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| [15:22:00] | Ray-Ven: | back again |
| [15:22:00] | Esotericisms: | hrm ... |
| [15:22:00] | Ray-Ven: | hello :-) |
| [15:23:00] | Esotericisms: | yeah I am waiting for j-rod to get back ... he might be able to point me in the right direction |
| [15:23:00] | Ray-Ven: | can someone tell me where my prefs and channels are saved? |
| [15:23:00] | gnarface: | tell me your trouble Esotericisms |
| [15:24:00] | Ray-Ven: | gnarface – hey :-) sound is solved |
| [15:24:00] | gnarface: | Ray-Ven: rockin! what'd it take? |
| [15:24:00] | ** Beirdo is working from home ** | |
| [15:24:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [15:25:00] | ** gnarface is too, but working is a relative term ** | |
| [15:25:00] | Ray-Ven: | gnarface – öhm – this guy skaface had a script wanna see what's in there? |
| [15:25:00] | gnarface: | sure |
| [15:26:00] | Ray-Ven: | "/usr/bin/ivtvctl -y volume=<font size="3">60000 /usr/bin/ivtvctl -y mute=0 /usr/bin/amixer sset Line,0 80%,80% mute cap /usr/bin/amixer sset Capture,0 30%,30% cap "</font> |
| [15:26:00] | Esotericisms: | gnarface: well my remote had been working beautifully for a day or two ... then it would just stop working and would have to cold boot to get it working again. So I did some research and found out that this is a known problem with the PVR-150 and its remote. I searched the IVTV mailing list and found that someone had wrote a patch to fix it and that is was bundled with the latest version of IVTV. So I downloaded the source did a ' |
| [15:27:00] | Esotericisms: | my next step is to compile lirc from source too |
| [15:27:00] | Esotericisms: | if necessary that is |
| [15:28:00] | gnarface: | did a '? |
| [15:28:00] | Beirdo: | my coworkers have had enough of my plague this week anyways |
| [15:28:00] | Esotericisms: | I downloaded the lates version of ivtv ... doesn't required a configure from what I could find ... so I just did a 'make' and then a 'make install |
| [15:29:00] | Esotericisms: | sorry I put ' around my commands .. make then stand out when typing up messages |
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| [15:31:00] | gnarface: | Esotericisms: what about the patch? |
| [15:31:00] | gnarface: | already appled? |
| [15:31:00] | gnarface: | applied |
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| [15:31:00] | gnarface: | what about the updated utils? ... if they were any? did you copy them over too? |
| [15:32:00] | Esotericisms: | according to the person who wrote it, it is included in the latest version of ivtv ... I even emailed him to check about it |
| [15:32:00] | Esotericisms: | yes |
| [15:32:00] | riksta: | someone remind me of that home integration website/software that uses mythtv |
| [15:32:00] | riksta: | and it has like a core server |
| [15:32:00] | riksta: | the page is blue and white |
| [15:32:00] | riksta: | with a flash animation |
| [15:33:00] | Beirdo: | eww |
| [15:33:00] | gnarface: | Esotericisms: and so the problem is what exactly? |
| [15:34:00] | ** Beirdo flashes riksta for effect ** | |
| [15:34:00] | riksta: | hehe |
| [15:34:00] | Esotericisms: | lirc now dies all the time ... |
| [15:34:00] | Esotericisms: | here is the error |
| [15:34:00] | riksta: | no but seriously do you know what im on about |
| [15:34:00] | Esotericisms: | http://pastebin.ca/12208 |
| [15:34:00] | riksta: | Esotericisms: did you upgrade your kernel? |
| [15:35:00] | Esotericisms: | recently? |
| [15:35:00] | Esotericisms: | 2.6.11.-1.14_FC3 (this is what I am running) |
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| [15:35:00] | gnarface: | Esotericisms: i get that same problem too, but i'm not getting it with the hauppage remote, i'm getting it with a seperate usb-uirt thingy that i can't get configured correctly. what device do you have lircd pointing to? |
| [15:36:00] | Esotericisms: | not sure ... where do I look to see for sure ... |
| [15:36:00] | Esotericisms: | in the error (http://pastebin.ca/12208) it seems that it points to /dev/lircd and /dev/lirc |
| [15:36:00] | Esotericisms: | however /dev/lircd is the only one that exists |
| [15:37:00] | gnarface: | ah ha |
| [15:38:00] | gnarface: | lirc probably won't exist either... i think its supposed to be /dev/lirc0 but that's later |
| [15:38:00] | Esotericisms: | gnarface: the only lirc devices that exist in /dev is /dev/lircd |
| [15:38:00] | Esotericisms: | that is it |
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| [15:39:00] | gnarface: | Esotericisms: lsmod |
| [15:40:00] | Esotericisms: | gnarface: http://pastebin.ca/12258 |
| [15:40:00] | rtsai1111: | riksta: are you talking about "D1": http://www.d1.com.au/hmc/welcome.htm |
| [15:41:00] | gnarface: | Esotericisms: did you compile that lircd yourself? |
| [15:41:00] | Esotericisms: | no |
| [15:41:00] | riksta: | rtsai1111: nah not that mate |
| [15:41:00] | gnarface: | Esotericisms: you need to make sure you had (i think) --with-driver=hauppage in your config |
| [15:41:00] | Esotericisms: | ok I will do that right now |
| [15:41:00] | Esotericisms: | gnarface: or I will try |
| [15:42:00] | Esotericisms: | got to find the source for my kernel |
| [15:42:00] | gnarface: | Esotericisms: that's in the pre-compilation configuration. try using the setup.sh script |
| [15:42:00] | gnarface: | Esotericisms: not necessarily... at least, you might not have to recompile it. download the lirc tarball from the site |
| [15:42:00] | Esotericisms: | I did that already .. |
| [15:43:00] | gnarface: | ok ok. just run the setup.sh |
| [15:43:00] | Esotericisms: | just sec |
| [15:43:00] | Esotericisms: | running |
| [15:43:00] | Esotericisms: | is this Driver of Software ... |
| [15:43:00] | Esotericisms: | of = or* |
| [15:43:00] | gnarface: | driver |
| [15:44:00] | Esotericisms: | tv card, I assume |
| [15:44:00] | Esotericisms: | (is the next selection) |
| [15:44:00] | Esotericisms: | ok done |
| [15:44:00] | gnarface: | ok. |
| [15:45:00] | gnarface: | install that |
| [15:45:00] | Esotericisms: | so I assume I need to select "Save configuration and run configure" |
| [15:45:00] | gnarface: | yea |
| [15:45:00] | gnarface: | do that |
| [15:45:00] | gnarface: | then compile the bitch |
| [15:45:00] | gnarface: | then install it |
| [15:45:00] | Esotericisms: | says I need kernel source |
| [15:45:00] | gnarface: | doh. |
| [15:45:00] | gnarface: | guess you do then. |
| [15:45:00] | Esotericisms: | I have an axel kernel |
| [15:45:00] | gnarface: | and make sure you put in the right options. |
| [15:45:00] | gnarface: | a what? |
| [15:46:00] | Esotericisms: | nm |
| [15:46:00] | Esotericisms: | fedora crap |
| [15:46:00] | gnarface: | hrm. |
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| [15:46:00] | gnarface: | http://home.comcast.net/~alf_park/mythtv.html |
| [15:47:00] | gnarface: | just try to get it as close to the config in this howto as possible |
| [15:47:00] | gnarface: | the important part is i2c mostly |
| [15:47:00] | gnarface: | but you're gonna need it all |
| [15:47:00] | Esotericisms: | ok |
| [15:47:00] | gnarface: | that example is for i guess a bt848 based card, and an nforce board, so pick the appropriate settings for your own hardware |
| [15:48:00] | Esotericisms: | hrm ... |
| [15:48:00] | gnarface: | also that is a lirc patched kernel, which i'm assuming you don't have. |
| [15:48:00] | gnarface: | so just ignore that part |
| [15:49:00] | CyberKnet: | riksta: you're not talking about misterhouse? |
| [15:49:00] | Esotericisms: | I will see what I can do |
| [15:49:00] | Ashlar: | plutohome something something |
| [15:49:00] | Ashlar: | they're doing myth integration, into a bigger package, aren't they? |
| [15:49:00] | riksta: | CyberKnet: i dont think thats the name, it doesn't ring a bell. |
| [15:50:00] | riksta: | ive been googling for AGES i cant bloody find it |
| [15:50:00] | CyberKnet: | riksta: MisterHouse is OSS home automation software |
| [15:51:00] | Ashlar: | www.plutohome.com .. popped up on the list a while back |
| [15:51:00] | riksta: | Ashlar: bingo |
| [15:51:00] | riksta: | thats it |
| [15:51:00] | karim: | anyone in usa here ? |
| [15:51:00] | gnarface: | Esotericisms: since you're using a pvr thing just leave out the bt8x8 crap and the lirc crap and change the nforce crap to whatever your motherboard actually is... that includes the hardware sensors support... you may need your motherboard manual |
| [15:51:00] | karim: | I am curious about the cost of travaels inside the USA |
| [15:52:00] | riksta: | Ashlar: thanks was just wanting to show a buddy, |
| [15:52:00] | Ashlar: | np riksta |
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| [15:53:00] | Esotericisms: | ok |
| [15:54:00] | rtsai1111: | karim: if you can somehow find a way to make that question myth-related, i will try to answer your question :) |
| [15:54:00] | rtsai1111: | karim: otherwise, wouldn't #travel-usa or something be more useful to you? |
| [15:56:00] | Esotericisms: | it |
| [15:56:00] | Esotericisms: | oops |
| [15:56:00] | gnarface: | ? |
| [15:56:00] | Esotericisms: | nm |
| [15:56:00] | Esotericisms: | wrong window |
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| [15:58:00] | Esotericisms: | maybe I will just start over and reinstall my entire system :/ |
| [15:59:00] | Beirdo: | WTF? |
| [15:59:00] | Beirdo: | I guess you like wasting time. |
| [15:59:00] | CyberKnet: | karim: Try orbitz.com, travelocity.com, expedia.com, hotwire.com or pricematch.com ... and expand your google-fu.com |
| [15:59:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: of course he does |
| [15:59:00] | Beirdo: | you really should use gentoo if you like wasting time, Esotericisms |
| [15:59:00] | gnarface: | Esotericisms: jezus christ don't have a fit. its just a kernel recompile. its not gonna kill you. it might even be good for you. |
| [15:59:00] | Esotericisms: | no I don't like wasting my time |
| [15:59:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: otherwise he'd be asking in #ivtv-dev where they are familiar with these things instead of #mythtv-users |
| [16:00:00] | Esotericisms: | I am not having a fit ... I don't understand why I would need to recompile my kernel to get my remote working again when it was working in the first place |
| [16:01:00] | CyberKnet: | Esotericisms: because you fucked with your kernel module |
| [16:01:00] | CyberKnet: | Esotericisms: and you clearly dont have any idea how these things interact |
| [16:01:00] | CyberKnet: | Esotericisms: is that clear enough for you now? |
| [16:01:00] | Esotericisms: | yeah fine |
| [16:01:00] | CyberKnet: | good. |
| [16:01:00] | gnarface: | lol. man. |
| [16:02:00] | Beirdo: | NP: Metallica – For Whom The Bell Tolls |
| [16:02:00] | Esotericisms: | who is running fedora? where can I get AXEL's kernel source ... |
| [16:02:00] | Beirdo: | from his site?! |
| [16:02:00] | CyberKnet: | Esotericisms: lots of people are running fedora, and you can search the fucking web |
| [16:02:00] | Beirdo: | atrpms.net |
| [16:02:00] | CyberKnet: | damn it all to hell |
| [16:02:00] | gnarface: | CyberKnet: rough morning? |
| [16:03:00] | CyberKnet: | gnarface: no. just clueless fucking users who can't take a fucking hint |
| [16:03:00] | gnarface: | hey, happy friday everyone. |
| [16:03:00] | CyberKnet: | s/hint/directive/ |
| [16:03:00] | Beirdo: | ahhh, home sweet couch |
| [16:04:00] | gnarface: | Beirdo: i'll drink to that :-D |
| [16:04:00] | CyberKnet: | Seriously... why the hell would you use atrpms and then think "Oh hey, why don't I compile ivtv from source without knowing downloading the kernel source first!" |
| [16:04:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: have a valium, dude |
| [16:04:00] | CyberKnet: | where did he think that his modules were going to get the kernel headers from?!@# |
| [16:04:00] | Beirdo: | and wash it down with some vodka |
| [16:04:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
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| [16:05:00] | gnarface: | Esotericisms: its really not a bad idea to keep your kernel source on hand and well configured.... that way this type of thing is relatively easy to deal with. |
| [16:05:00] | gnarface: | Beirdo: he's in a different reality. its different being at home on a friday :) |
| [16:05:00] | Beirdo: | well, I am working from home |
| [16:06:00] | gnarface: | CyberKnet: Beirdo is a fool. you want to mix *zanax* with your vodka. |
| [16:06:00] | Beirdo: | so as not to further infect the coworkers with my damned cold |
| [16:06:00] | gnarface: | aah. well, that's not all that great. |
| [16:06:00] | gnarface: | i'm a mercenary. |
| [16:06:00] | gnarface: | i get to do what i want. |
| [16:06:00] | Esotericisms: | gnarface, yeah I am just trying to figure out how to get my kernel source with fedora, truthfully I am used to gentoo and debian ... I haven't touched a redhat install until now for over a year |
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| [16:06:00] | Beirdo: | so why the HELL did you not use gentoo or debian |
| [16:07:00] | ** Beirdo slaps Esotericisms with the trout ** | |
| [16:07:00] | gnarface: | Esotericisms: maybe you *should* re-install your whole system again... |
| [16:07:00] | CyberKnet: | Esotericisms: I'll tell you very nicely. Search the web for how to use apt. It is *very* easy to get the kernel source. You are just not trying. |
| [16:07:00] | Beirdo: | if you are used to debian, you should know apt very well by now |
| [16:07:00] | gnarface: | fuck apt-get |
| [16:07:00] | gnarface: | www.kernel.org |
| [16:08:00] | CyberKnet: | gnarface: well, yes. I just meant if he wanted to use the at kernel source |
| [16:08:00] | Beirdo: | gnarface: no, use the fedora kernels on a fedora system or go find all the patches by hand |
| [16:08:00] | CyberKnet: | gnarface: which would be recommended if he is using atrpms for everything else. |
| [16:08:00] | gnarface: | aaah. |
| [16:08:00] | Esotericisms: | I know how to use apt-get |
| [16:08:00] | gnarface: | Esotericisms: yea. just re-install the thing. |
| [16:09:00] | Beirdo: | then you know how to get the source |
| [16:09:00] | gnarface: | Esotericisms: gentoo is nice really. |
| [16:09:00] | Beirdo: | stop being dense |
| [16:09:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: You'd think he would, yes. |
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| [16:11:00] | Esotericisms: | fine .. whatever .. fedoras apt isn't the same fucking thing |
| [16:11:00] | Beirdo: | yes it is |
| [16:11:00] | Esotericisms: | apt-get install kernel-source-`uname -r` |
| [16:11:00] | Esotericisms: | doesn't work |
| [16:11:00] | gnarface: | hey, has anyone found more thorough multiple lircd setup docs than this: http://www.lircsetup.com/lirc/blaster/index.php |
| [16:11:00] | gnarface: | ? |
| [16:11:00] | Beirdo: | that's not how you get source for a package with apt |
| [16:11:00] | Esotericisms: | damnit |
| [16:11:00] | Esotericisms: | apt-get source |
| [16:12:00] | Esotericisms: | shit I just remembered |
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| [16:12:00] | Beirdo: | ahhh, the candle is flickering above Esotericisms' head again |
| [16:13:00] | CyberKnet: | Esotericisms: you'd think that you'd be tired of us bitching at you by now. |
| [16:13:00] | Esotericisms: | I am ... but I really really really want to get this working, so self humilation is bearable for now :) |
| [16:13:00] | Beirdo: | lirc is a bitch |
| [16:14:00] | Esotericisms: | it seems that way |
| [16:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | quite |
| [16:14:00] | Beirdo: | you could just do the smart thing... buy an IR keyboard, and fuck the remote |
| [16:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm glad I've avoided it all this time |
| [16:14:00] | Esotericisms: | I am tempted ... but that is more money |
| [16:14:00] | Beirdo: | I tried lirc, it pissed me off, and I never went back |
| [16:14:00] | Beirdo: | an IR keyboard is $20 |
| [16:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've seen more people pull their hair own from lirc stuff than a lot of stuff |
| [16:14:00] | Esotericisms: | well I had it working |
| [16:14:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: too right |
| [16:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | I skiped it from the beginning heh |
| [16:14:00] | gnarface: | myself, i didn't have any problem getting my hauppage remote working but now i need to re-transmit to a directv box... that's where i'm having trouble. |
| [16:14:00] | Beirdo: | you've spent more than $20 of time on it already |
| [16:14:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: I skipped it too |
| [16:15:00] | ** rtsai1111 pats wireless keyboard ** | |
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| [16:15:00] | Esotericisms: | I would love to see where you get a wireless keyboard for $20 |
| [16:15:00] | ** GreyFoxx pats his RF/USB remote ** | |
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| [16:15:00] | GreyFoxx: | but I keep a usb keyboard around when required |
| [16:16:00] | opello: | Esotericisms: got mine on ebay, old acer airkey, new in box, for $18 |
| [16:16:00] | Esotericisms: | ah |
| [16:16:00] | opello: | it's very nice for myth, and i wanted ir, not rf |
| [16:16:00] | CyberKnet: | Esotericisms: from newegg |
| [16:16:00] | Esotericisms: | great .. I installed the source ... doesn't work ... lirc still says it needs the source |
| [16:16:00] | gnarface: | rf kinda sucks if your cellphone rings alot |
| [16:17:00] | gnarface: | Esotericisms: make sure you've got a /usr/src/linux pointing to the src |
| [16:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | gnarface: I've never seen any interaction from my cell to my remote sensor |
| [16:17:00] | gnarface: | GreyFoxx: used to mess up my logitech all the time... it was an older one though. |
| [16:17:00] | Esotericisms: | yeah I need to find where the source got installed to on fedora |
| [16:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | gnarface: Ahh ok. I use an RF/USB + universla IR remote,. and an RF Gyration usb keyboard without any problem |
| [16:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | Though one of the two channels on my baby monitor pics up the signal from my keyboard heh |
| [16:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | so I use the other channel :) |
| [16:19:00] | Beirdo: | "the baby's typing again!" |
| [16:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [16:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's not funny, she is obsessed with typing on my keyboards / laptops |
| [16:19:00] | Esotericisms: | lol |
| [16:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | I finally cut the cord off one and gave it to her to play with |
| [16:19:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [16:19:00] | Beirdo: | she'll be a computer geek |
| [16:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hell yeah, she's obessed with all of the laptops and electronic gear around the house |
| [16:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | she has her own remote to play too :) |
| [16:20:00] | CyberKnet: | crap. niveus remote is up to $40 plus shipping |
| [16:20:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [16:20:00] | CyberKnet: | on newegg |
| [16:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's been $39 or so on pcalchemy for a long time |
| [16:21:00] | ** GreyFoxx curses newegg for not shipping to Canada ** | |
| [16:21:00] | CyberKnet: | yeah. pcalchemy has it for 36 right now |
| [16:22:00] | Beirdo: | newegg = shite |
| [16:22:00] | CyberKnet: | NewEgg is great if you don't live in NotAmerica |
| [16:22:00] | gnarface: | anyone use a remote with a mac? a friend is looking for a recommendation. |
| [16:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | nice double negative :) |
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| [16:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | All online sites that wont ship outside the US suck |
| [16:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [16:23:00] | GreyFoxx: | Or those that do charge ridiculous shipping fees |
| [16:23:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: Oooh, I hate the ridiculous shipping fee sites |
| [16:24:00] | CyberKnet: | 99% of ebay auctions |
| [16:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's like ebay, |
| [16:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah |
| [16:24:00] | CyberKnet: | yeah |
| [16:24:00] | CyberKnet: | $20 to ship a cd |
| [16:24:00] | CyberKnet: | no way |
| [16:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use to like it when they would actually find out the real shipping to you and you paid that |
| [16:24:00] | CyberKnet: | one person wanted $20 to ship an X100P ... there is no way it was going to cost that much. |
| [16:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | none of this inflated flat rate bullshit |
| [16:24:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah $5 max usps |
| [16:25:00] | CyberKnet: | heh. yeah. |
| [16:25:00] | CyberKnet: | $20 shipping on a $6 item |
| [16:25:00] | CyberKnet: | tell me that they're not trying to evade ebay fees. |
| [16:26:00] | Beirdo: | so? |
| [16:26:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:26:00] | Beirdo: | ebay allows it |
| [16:26:00] | CyberKnet: | I just refuse to buy from them |
| [16:26:00] | CyberKnet: | at least they're up front about being morons, I guess. |
| [16:26:00] | Beirdo: | meh |
| [16:26:00] | Beirdo: | I look at the total cost and decide based on that |
| [16:26:00] | Beirdo: | $25 for an x100p clone isn't that bad |
| [16:27:00] | CyberKnet: | it is when another auction has them for $16 =) |
| [16:27:00] | CyberKnet: | (shipped) |
| [16:27:00] | CyberKnet: | still neglected to buy as of yet though. |
| [16:27:00] | CyberKnet: | procrastination paid of. they were 9.99 + 6.99, now they're 8.99 + 6.99 |
| [16:27:00] | Beirdo: | also depends |
| [16:27:00] | Beirdo: | if the $25 one works and the $16 one doesn't... |
| [16:27:00] | CyberKnet: | true that |
| [16:28:00] | Beirdo: | but whatever |
| [16:28:00] | CyberKnet: | $16 seller had great feedback though. I dont think it was all schills either. |
| [16:28:00] | CyberKnet: | but yes. |
| [16:28:00] | Beirdo: | you can continue to be scottish :) |
| [16:28:00] | CyberKnet: | I do concede that it depends |
| [16:28:00] | CyberKnet: | if $price + $shipping <= $limit then I'd bid regardless of $shipping, I guess |
| [16:29:00] | Beirdo: | if the seller is nkans, I can tell you that his stuff does work |
| [16:29:00] | CyberKnet: | I'd be an idiot not to |
| [16:29:00] | Beirdo: | both of mine do |
| [16:29:00] | CyberKnet: | seller is indeed nkans |
| [16:29:00] | CyberKnet: | (the $16 seller) |
| [16:29:00] | Beirdo: | he rapes for shipping to Canada |
| [16:29:00] | CyberKnet: | well that sucks |
| [16:29:00] | Beirdo: | but it came to $25 or so |
| [16:29:00] | Beirdo: | which was OK |
| [16:29:00] | CyberKnet: | should have shipped it to me and I would have reshipped it on to you |
| [16:29:00] | CyberKnet: | for less |
| [16:29:00] | Beirdo: | at least he will ship here |
| [16:29:00] | CyberKnet: | any time you need that just let me know. |
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| [16:29:00] | CyberKnet: | be more than happy to. |
| [16:29:00] | Beirdo: | sure |
| [16:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | One of my coworkers moved down to cleveland and does that for a few of us now |
| [16:30:00] | CyberKnet: | having used to livei n australia and suffered the same lack of shipping, I completely empathise |
| [16:30:00] | CyberKnet: | =) |
| [16:30:00] | Beirdo: | damn I hate chest congestion |
| [16:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | brings stuff back when he flies home, or just dumps it in the regular mail |
| [16:30:00] | CyberKnet: | try living in australia and trying to buy an NTSC camcorder |
| [16:30:00] | CyberKnet: | man |
| [16:30:00] | CyberKnet: | that is a trial. |
| [16:30:00] | Beirdo: | 0h good luck |
| [16:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | It use to be ok, it just got worse a few years ago |
| [16:31:00] | CyberKnet: | I went to all the duty free stores, all the chinatown stores ... nobody carried them |
| [16:31:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, when the government became more xenophobic, the citizens decided to follow suit |
| [16:31:00] | CyberKnet: | in the end paid some outfit online, and they tried to steal my money and not ship |
| [16:31:00] | CyberKnet: | (dispute with visa though, and got the money back) |
| [16:32:00] | Beirdo: | (xenophobic Americans)-- |
| [16:33:00] | Beirdo: | thankfully not nearly all are that way |
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| [16:36:00] | CyberKnet: | *yawn* |
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| [16:45:00] | LedHed: | hello |
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| [16:48:00] | LedHed: | what are the minimum frontend system requirements for smooth HDTV playback |
| [16:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | A clean pair of underwear, cause you just never know |
| [16:49:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: lol |
| [16:49:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx, you have a niveus remote right? |
| [16:49:00] | CyberKnet: | never know when those sweaty balls will get the better of you. |
| [16:49:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: You are correct |
| [16:49:00] | CyberKnet: | one sweat drip onto the pcb, and it's all over. |
| [16:50:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx, how did you get it working... |
| [16:50:00] | CyberKnet: | sphing: he wrote a driver for it |
| [16:50:00] | sphing: | you sent me your ati_remote.c file, but i can't find where to replace it |
| [16:50:00] | gnarface: | i'll tell you where to place it |
| [16:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | I hacked up the ati_remote.c driver that comes with the kernel to handle the remote and the different data packet structure |
| [16:50:00] | CyberKnet: | gnarface: now now. be nice =P" |
| [16:50:00] | CyberKnet: | *grin* |
| [16:50:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: goes into your kernel source, drivers/usb/input/ati_remote.c |
| [16:50:00] | gnarface: | haha. |
| [16:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | you are replacing that old ati_remote.c |
| [16:51:00] | sphing: | thanks.. |
| [16:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | compile it as a module, not directly into the kernel |
| [16:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | cause you will want to pass it some parameters |
| [16:51:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: How's the work on making the driver file not need a recompile to change key bindings coming? |
| [16:51:00] | sphing: | i dont have that directory |
| [16:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | and I don't care to make those compile time options |
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| [16:51:00] | gnarface: | you guys seen this stuff? http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffeine/drinks/6b4f/ |
| [16:52:00] | ** gnarface rawr ** | |
| [16:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: What kernel version ? |
| [16:52:00] | sphing: | 2.4.25 |
| [16:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | That module is for 2.6.x |
| [16:52:00] | Beirdo: | I think it's time to go find coffee and lunch |
| [16:52:00] | sphing: | ahh... good reason.. |
| [16:53:00] | sphing: | so i'll get the new source... |
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| [16:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have a 2.4.x version that compiles outside of the kernel source, but I don't remember if this copy I have is the latest 2.4.x version or not |
| [16:53:00] | sphing: | no worries, i'll just get 2.6, theres an epia patch so i'm not too concerned |
| [16:53:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: where can I locate a copy of your ati_driver.c ? |
| [16:53:00] | sphing: | you will be here for a while, i have to run out for 10 mins |
| [16:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've only been tracking the 2.6.x version in my cvs server, the 2.4.x is a neglected bastard child :) |
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| [16:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | sphing: I have no idea how long I'll be here |
| [16:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | the joys of being at work is they get my attention over IRC :) |
| [16:54:00] | sphing: | fair enough ;) |
| [16:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | CyberKnet: www.phaze.org/mythtv/ati_remote.c |
| [16:54:00] | gnarface: | hey |
| [16:54:00] | CyberKnet: | thanks. Hopefully I'll purchase one of those remotes soon |
| [16:54:00] | CyberKnet: | and hopefully the RF stuff around my house wont interfere |
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| [16:55:00] | gnarface: | ever cat a binary and have your terminal charset get garbled and then have to log out to reset it? |
| [16:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | gnarface: Try typing "reset" at the commandline |
| [16:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | or if it's an xterm CTRL-Middlemousebutton |
| [16:56:00] | gnarface: | rawr~! |
| [16:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | and you can for a soft or full terminal reset |
| [16:57:00] | gnarface: | nice |
| [16:57:00] | gnarface: | ok |
| [16:57:00] | gnarface: | now if i could get it to happen again... |
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| [17:07:00] | gnarface: | so like |
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| [17:07:00] | gnarface: | i've got this old toshiba satellite laptop |
| [17:07:00] | Cardoe: | gentoo users? |
| [17:07:00] | gnarface: | it pretty much blows |
| [17:07:00] | ** gnarface raises hand ** | |
| [17:07:00] | Cardoe: | except you |
| [17:07:00] | Cardoe: | you don't have it installed |
| [17:07:00] | ** gnarface feels special :-D ** | |
| [17:08:00] | laga: | *raises hand* |
| [17:08:00] | gnarface: | so like, think its a good idea to take this laptop out of its casing and embed the guts into my coffee table? |
| [17:08:00] | Cardoe: | laga: don't you have cvs? |
| [17:09:00] | gnarface: | you know... just so i can have a network-enabled coffee table with a terminal and 1.5 gigs of storage? |
| [17:09:00] | laga: | Cardoe: yep ;) |
| [17:09:00] | ** Beirdo raises a finger. ** | |
| [17:09:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:10:00] | Cardoe: | thx Beirdo |
| [17:10:00] | Cardoe: | god forbid I can find a regular Gentoo user to test the 0.18.1 installs |
| [17:10:00] | Beirdo: | I have gentoo, but not for myth, so I can't help much with testing that stuff :) |
| [17:10:00] | Cardoe: | It compiles. I know that much. |
| [17:10:00] | DonLKSAB (~don@h57n2fls31o998.telia.com) Quit () | |
| [17:10:00] | Cardoe: | but I can't see if anything else works |
| [17:10:00] | Cardoe: | cause I'm almost 400 miles from my box. |
| [17:10:00] | Beirdo: | OK, all you rice-boy Gentoo users... help Cardoe out |
| [17:10:00] | Cardoe: | so I can't quite see if the TV displays. |
| [17:11:00] | Cardoe: | so basically, help me out. |
| [17:11:00] | Cardoe: | or I just unmask the crap and say suck it up for a while. |
| [17:11:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:12:00] | Cardoe: | well I'm going into my father's office to break some Windows 2003 domain controllers. |
| [17:12:00] | ** kormoc nudges Cardoe ** | |
| [17:13:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: test it. |
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| [17:13:00] | kormoc: | is it in portage? |
| [17:13:00] | Cardoe: | yes |
| [17:13:00] | Cardoe: | 0.18.1 has been in Portage for like 5 days |
| [17:13:00] | Cardoe: | I just got around to finishing my re-written eclass |
| [17:13:00] | Cardoe: | now all the plugins have the most pointless ebuilds. |
| [17:13:00] | kormoc: | yeah? |
| [17:14:00] | Cardoe: | they don't even include src_unpack, src_compile, src_install |
| [17:14:00] | kormoc: | looks like I am running .18.1, no problems yet |
| [17:14:00] | Cardoe: | in fact, they have no functions in them. |
| [17:14:00] | kormoc: | ooh? |
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| [17:14:00] | Cardoe: | eclass handles it all |
| [17:14:00] | kormoc: | nice |
| [17:14:00] | Cardoe: | so trivial mass upgrading |
| [17:14:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [17:14:00] | kormoc: | sounds good |
| [17:15:00] | hadees: | anyone know whats the deal with this, www.aldorf.no/mythtv |
| [17:15:00] | kormoc: | given it's worked the past few bit here, I'd say unmask .18.1 |
| [17:15:00] | hadees: | its got a news scroller pic in the upper right hand |
| [17:15:00] | hadees: | but i never heard of a news scroller for mythtv |
| [17:15:00] | kormoc: | did you fix the mythfrontend issue I told ya bout? |
| [17:16:00] | Beirdo: | trivial mass fuckups? |
| [17:17:00] | laga: | input: USB HID v1.10 Joystick [Mega World USB Game Controllers] on usb-0000:00:03.1–2 |
| [17:17:00] | laga: | w00t! mythgame, finally! |
| [17:17:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: what mythfrontend? |
| [17:17:00] | Cardoe: | there is no more mythfrontend package |
| [17:17:00] | kormoc: | yeah there is |
| [17:17:00] | Cardoe: | you tell mythtv USE=frontendonly |
| [17:18:00] | kormoc: | media-tv/mythfrontend |
| [17:18:00] | Cardoe: | right and 0.18 is the latest version in there. |
| [17:18:00] | kormoc: | yeah, and the .18-r1 ebuild is broken anyway :) |
| [17:18:00] | Cardoe: | watch what happens when I unmask |
| [17:18:00] | ** Cardoe shrugs. ** | |
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| [17:19:00] | Cardoe: | I hate supporting an ebuild that has 99.9% of the code identical. |
| [17:19:00] | Cardoe: | there 3 lines different |
| [17:19:00] | Cardoe: | S=${WORKDIR}/mythfrontend rather then S=${WORKDIR}/${PN} |
| [17:20:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [17:20:00] | Cardoe: | sed -e 's!linux backend!linux!' -i settings.pro || die "Failed to remove backend" |
| [17:20:00] | kormoc: | well, the useflag is fine to be honest |
| [17:20:00] | Cardoe: | and that's 2 lines. |
| [17:20:00] | kormoc: | but I do have one box that is frontend only |
| [17:20:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: USE=frontendonly will do the same thing as the seperate package. |
| [17:20:00] | Cardoe: | it also won't install any unnecessary crap in /usr/share/doc |
| [17:21:00] | Cardoe: | ok |
| [17:21:00] | kormoc: | yeah, that's newish isn't it tho? |
| [17:21:00] | Cardoe: | I'm going to the office? |
| [17:21:00] | Cardoe: | kormoc: what's newish? |
| [17:21:00] | kormoc: | the use flag frontendonly |
| [17:21:00] | Cardoe: | 0.18.1 release |
| [17:21:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [17:21:00] | kormoc: | righto then |
| [17:21:00] | Cardoe: | I'm asking you to test 0.18.1 |
| [17:22:00] | Cardoe: | just unmask it in /etc/portage/package.unmask |
| [17:22:00] | Cardoe: | it compiles just fine for me. |
| [17:22:00] | kormoc: | yeah, I'm running .18.1 on my main box and .18 frontend only on my second box |
| [17:22:00] | Cardoe: | and it seems to run |
| [17:22:00] | Cardoe: | any plugins? |
| [17:22:00] | kormoc: | dvd plugin worked this morning |
| [17:22:00] | kormoc: | that's the only one I use really |
| [17:23:00] | Cardoe: | k |
| [17:23:00] | Cardoe: | I'm out |
| [17:23:00] | Cardoe: | I'll be back in a little bit |
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| [17:25:00] | ** CyberKnet wonders why AT removed the FC2 kernels from atrpms ** | |
| [17:25:00] | ** laga fiddles with mythgame ** | |
| [17:28:00] | ** CyberKnet ponders upgrading to FC3 ** | |
| [17:28:00] | Esotericisms: | FC3 is alright |
| [17:29:00] | laga: | "Configure complete, now type 'make' and pray." |
| [17:29:00] | laga: | gotta love zsnes ;) |
| [17:29:00] | CyberKnet: | FC4 should be around soon though |
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| [17:30:00] | CyberKnet: | hate to upgrade now just to want to upgrade to FC4 later |
| [17:30:00] | CyberKnet: | plus the upgrade procedure is not exactly straight forward |
| [17:30:00] | Esotericisms: | I would stick with FC3 since Jarods guide is written for it |
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| [17:31:00] | CyberKnet: | Esotericisms: I dont intend on reinstalling. |
| [17:31:00] | CyberKnet: | Esotericisms: that's why I we have apt-get |
| [17:31:00] | Esotericisms: | vgy |
| [17:32:00] | Esotericisms: | yeah |
| [17:32:00] | Esotericisms: | damn cat |
| [17:32:00] | Esotericisms: | walked on my keyboard |
| [17:32:00] | CyberKnet: | ever see three random letters and try to figure out what tla the person meant? |
| [17:32:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [17:32:00] | CyberKnet: | all I could come up with was "very good (for) you" |
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| [17:33:00] | Esotericisms: | or it could be a key bind for voice chat in a computer game |
| [17:33:00] | Esotericisms: | vgy (voice -> global -> yes) |
| [17:34:00] | laga: | Esotericisms: lets hope your cat doesnt walk on your keyboard when you have sex... |
| [17:35:00] | bob-lad: | i can tune channels with /usr/lib/ivtv/ptune-ui.pl. how does mythtv tune channels? |
| [17:35:00] | Esotericisms: | ... |
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| [17:37:00] | CyberKnet: | ... |
| [17:37:00] | laga: | c'mon, that'd be embarassing. |
| [17:38:00] | CyberKnet: | Esotericisms: think of the keybind you said... |
| [17:40:00] | Esotericisms: | must be too early in the morning for me |
| [17:40:00] | CyberKnet: | if your cat hit voice->global->yes whilst you were fornicating near the computer that would be embarassing for you. |
| [17:41:00] | CyberKnet: | your cries of passion (and hers of dismay) would go out ot everyone |
| [17:41:00] | Esotericisms: | lol |
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| [17:45:00] | CyberKnet: | Esotericisms: you are running atrpms on FC3? |
| [17:53:00] | Esotericisms: | CyberKnet: yes |
| [17:55:00] | gnarface: | what does it mean when irsend is just telling me: could not connect to socket and Connection refused? |
| [17:56:00] | Ashlar: | that lircd has dided, usually |
| [17:56:00] | Ashlar: | err died.. |
| [17:56:00] | Ashlar: | or that /dev/lircd or /dev/lirc doesn't have the right permissions |
| [17:56:00] | Esotericisms: | or /dev/lirc doesn't exist |
| [17:57:00] | Esotericisms: | and it dies because of that |
| [17:57:00] | Ashlar: | yup.. check the log file, or dmesg |
| [17:57:00] | gnarface: | hmm. the devices are there and have the right permissions |
| [17:57:00] | gnarface: | and all i'm doing is irsend LIST "" "" |
| [17:57:00] | Ashlar: | check the lircd log |
| [17:59:00] | gnarface: | yep. it freaked out and died. |
| [17:59:00] | gnarface: | is it something to do with not having a real serial device, but using one through the usb->serial conversion module? |
| [18:00:00] | Ashlar: | as in /dev/ttyUSB0 or somesuch? |
| [18:02:00] | gnarface: | yea, actually /dev/tts/USB0 |
| [18:03:00] | Ashlar: | hrmm.. I tried that, but never got it to work.. ended up getting extra serial port card.. wish I could help |
| [18:03:00] | Esotericisms: | hey I am just browsing through Jarods guide right now ... what is the medley-package exactly? |
| [18:05:00] | kormoc: | http://atrpms.net/name/medley-package-config/ |
| [18:05:00] | kormoc: | Configuration files for package managers. |
| [18:05:00] | kormoc: | or in other words, google knows all |
| [18:05:00] | kormoc: | :P |
| [18:06:00] | Esotericisms: | :P |
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| [18:10:00] | Beirdo: | engage brain before asking question :) |
| [18:11:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: can that be a channel moto? |
| [18:11:00] | Cardoe: | motto |
| [18:11:00] | ChanServ sets mode +o Beirdo | |
| [18:12:00] | Beirdo changes topic to '.:. Welcome to the official user-to-user support channel. .:. http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/ .:. Engage brain before asking question .:.' | |
| [18:12:00] | Beirdo sets mode -o Beirdo | |
| [18:12:00] | Beirdo: | there |
| [18:13:00] | CyberKnet: | there. |
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| [18:14:00] | ** CyberKnet runs pl/sql command like mad ** | |
| [18:14:00] | Esotericisms: | lol |
| [18:14:00] | CyberKnet: | stupid cyberknet for ignoring deadlines for too long |
| [18:14:00] | Beirdo: | <nelson> HA HA! </nelson> |
| [18:14:00] | CyberKnet: | shut up sick-boy =) |
| [18:15:00] | CyberKnet: | gah. unindexed table with 50,000 rows. I bet updating *that* wont take long. |
| [18:15:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:15:00] | Beirdo: | have fun |
| [18:15:00] | Beirdo: | I'm gonna go get food |
| [18:15:00] | CyberKnet: | not bloody likely. |
| [18:15:00] | CyberKnet: | me too |
| [18:15:00] | Esotericisms: | why do people charge such outrageous shipping prices on ebay, it is quite annoying |
| [18:16:00] | Cardoe: | Esotericisms: that's where people make their money |
| [18:16:00] | CyberKnet: | I wish ebay had an option to sort by BuyItNow+Shipping |
| [18:16:00] | Esotericisms: | yeah ... it is just annoying though ... |
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| [18:16:00] | Cardoe: | If I charge $10 shipping |
| [18:17:00] | Cardoe: | I'll sell the item for just as much as I would if I charged the $3.95 it takes to ship. |
| [18:17:00] | Beirdo: | and you don't pay ebay fees on the shipping |
| [18:17:00] | Esotericisms: | yeah |
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| [18:24:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: that too |
| [18:24:00] | ** Cardoe throws 0.18.1 @ the Gentoo users. ** | |
| [18:25:00] | kormoc: | whee |
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| [18:29:00] | ** iggy throws monkey fesces @ the Gentoo users ** | |
| [18:29:00] | ** kormoc flees the monkey iggy ** | |
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| [18:35:00] | Esotericisms: | hrm .. I can't download medley-package |
| [18:36:00] | Esotericisms: | says it doesn't have an installation candidate |
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| [18:40:00] | Esotericisms: | anyone |
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| [18:44:00] | iggy: | Esotericisms: wtf is medley-package? |
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| [18:45:00] | Esotericisms: | nm ... iggy, do you use fedora? |
| [18:45:00] | iggy: | what do I look like, some kind of ignorant clod? |
| [18:46:00] | kormoc: | do you really want a answer to that? :P |
| [18:46:00] | Esotericisms: | I will take that as a no |
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| [18:50:00] | ** w30 read that the law compounded M. Jackson's computer, I wonder if he used Windows98, or XP, or Fedora ** | |
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| [18:50:00] | CyberKnet: | compounded. |
| [18:50:00] | CyberKnet: | the law compounded a computer |
| [18:51:00] | CyberKnet: | I'm dying to hear how exactly they did that. |
| [18:51:00] | w30: | CyberKnet: the took the s.o.b. |
| [18:51:00] | CyberKnet: | that would not be compounded. |
| [18:51:00] | mchou: | more like impounded :) |
| [18:52:00] | CyberKnet: | they subpoena'd it for evidence. They confiscated it. but they did not compound it |
| [18:52:00] | mchou: | I wish my computer would compond :) |
| [18:52:00] | w30: | CyberKnet: impounded is ok with me if you like that better. |
| [18:52:00] | mchou: | compound* |
| [18:54:00] | j-rod|afk is now known as j-rod | |
| [18:54:00] | Esotericisms: | hey j-rod |
| [18:54:00] | j-rod: | hey |
| [18:55:00] | j-rod: | CyberKnet, I'm going FC4 on my boxes ever so shortly, and I've already dist-upgraded the box I'm on now from FC3 to FC4 |
| [18:55:00] | mchou: | hehe, where is bobc?? ivtv has a remote control patch: "remote control gpio reset patch included." |
| [18:55:00] | j-rod: | it'll be a bit rockier, but you should be able to more or less follow things for FC4 |
| [18:56:00] | j-rod: | Eso, what's up? |
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| [18:56:00] | Esotericisms: | j-rod, not much – problems as usual |
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| [19:02:00] | SarahEmm: | hihi |
| [19:02:00] | kormoc: | Mornin |
| [19:02:00] | SarahEmm: | hihi kormoc |
| [19:02:00] | SarahEmm: | afternoon ;) |
| [19:03:00] | kormoc: | :) |
| [19:03:00] | ** SarahEmm is actually *not* touching her myth setup today! hehe, it's finally all set up and working nicely. ** | |
| [19:03:00] | j-rod: | good evening, and goodnight |
| [19:03:00] | SarahEmm: | nini |
| [19:04:00] | j-rod: | not really |
| [19:04:00] | kormoc: | yay, lucky! |
| [19:04:00] | j-rod: | just completing the line |
| [19:04:00] | mchou: | damn, zap2it listings are wrong for next Monday...... |
| [19:05:00] | j-rod: | crap, what was that movie called?... |
| [19:05:00] | iggy: | truman show |
| [19:05:00] | SarahEmm: | j-rod: ahh hehe |
| [19:05:00] | lucas333: | Hey. I'm investigating backend crashes with .18 and .18.1.. backend dies frequently, but without a segfault. last debug statement that makes it is right before the fork() call in channelbase.cpp |
| [19:05:00] | j-rod: | yeah, that one |
| [19:05:00] | j-rod: | thankye iggy |
| [19:05:00] | SarahEmm: | kormoc: heh, it's a short-lived thing. i'm going to pick up a PVR-500 soon ;) |
| [19:05:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [19:06:00] | kormoc: | I've been pondering what one to get, once I get money, that is :) |
| [19:06:00] | iggy: | SarahEmm: at least you seem more qualified to get one than most of the people, but the advice still stands that it's very experimental |
| [19:06:00] | j-rod: | I've already decided my next purchase is a PowerBook G4, followed by a mobo w/unichrome pro graphics |
| [19:06:00] | mchou: | kormoc: I'd recommend 1 150 and 1 500 :) |
| [19:06:00] | gnarface: | so has anyone successfully gotten a usb-uirt to work? |
| [19:07:00] | SarahEmm: | iggy: it's going in my development backend for now. i have a seperate one for stuff i'm working on, that doesn't interfere with the production system that i actually use to watch TV :) |
| [19:07:00] | kormoc: | I've been looking at the pxtv's, hardware mpeg-4 encoding |
| [19:07:00] | lucas333: | I'm hoping anyone has a suggestion on where to look for for the problem... gdb says "invalid thread handle", and that log message is the last thing that comes trough. I actually don't know how a program can die without a segfault like that. |
| [19:07:00] | SarahEmm: | iggy: i can't drop the -500 into the live system until VBI is working anyway. |
| [19:07:00] | mchou: | kormoc: the plextors? |
| [19:07:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [19:07:00] | mchou: | kormoc: what's the street prices on those? |
| [19:08:00] | kormoc: | $200 for the full featured one, $150 for the basic one iirc |
| [19:08:00] | iggy: | lucas333: do you have logs with myth's verbosity set to max? |
| [19:08:00] | lucas333: | yes. -v all |
| [19:08:00] | lucas333: | I've included extra debug statements to the code to pin it down ever further. |
| [19:08:00] | mchou: | kormoc: hmm, that's a bit pricy...... |
| [19:08:00] | kormoc: | yeah, but mpeg-4 is quite nicer compaired to mpeg-2 |
| [19:08:00] | kormoc: | in size vs quality that is |
| [19:09:00] | lucas333: | fork() in channelbase.cpp right before calling the external tuner script. |
| [19:09:00] | iggy: | kormoc: only for space, mpeg2's quality is better for me |
| [19:09:00] | SarahEmm: | do people have issues with the -500 still? |
| [19:09:00] | kormoc: | yeah, given right now, I only have 20 gigs for myth, space is a issue :) |
| [19:09:00] | SarahEmm: | i keep getting some peopel saying 'it's completely not stable, don't use it in production yet' and some people say 'it's been fine for awhile, there's no issues, quit asking!' ;) |
| [19:09:00] | mchou: | kormoc: lol. Go get another HDD. |
| [19:09:00] | iggy: | SarahEmm: the ratio seems to be about 66% ok, 33% failure |
| [19:10:00] | kormoc: | tho at 400 megs a hour, it seems to be a bit more then it used to |
| [19:10:00] | iggy: | SarahEmm: which is better than a month ago where it was more like 20/80 |
| [19:10:00] | SarahEmm: | okay iggy. |
| [19:10:00] | mchou: | kormoc: that's a much better investment then pxtv. |
| [19:10:00] | SarahEmm: | well, i'll throw it in the devel box and see how it works :) |
| [19:10:00] | SarahEmm: | it'd be very nice to have dual tuners. |
| [19:10:00] | Beirdo: | mmmm. coffee |
| [19:10:00] | iggy: | kormoc: buy more hard drives |
| [19:10:00] | SarahEmm: | i'm missing one show on thursday nights that i'd like to record but i have something else higher priority at that time.. |
| [19:10:00] | ** Beirdo is considering 2 * PVR-500 ** | |
| [19:10:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:10:00] | kormoc: | mchou, to get a new hard drive, would involve quite a bit of money, I'd need to get a new controler and new pairs |
| [19:10:00] | SarahEmm: | heya Beirdo :) |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | heya, SarahEmm |
| [19:11:00] | kormoc: | and to get the controler I want, I'd need a 64 bit pci slot, which means new mobo+proc |
| [19:11:00] | ** Beirdo is working from home today to keep from further infecting the coworkers with this bitch of a cold ** | |
| [19:11:00] | mchou: | kormoc: believe me, you need a HDD even if you get pxtv..... |
| [19:11:00] | kormoc: | so it's just a chain reaction which I don't have the funds to start at the moment :P |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: just get some disc :) |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:12:00] | SarahEmm: | Beirdo: Aww =-/ |
| [19:12:00] | ** SarahEmm is on vacation :) ** | |
| [19:12:00] | SarahEmm: | so instead of supporting IT at work i'm at home on irc supporting.. IT :) |
| [19:12:00] | Beirdo: | I'm going on vacation 1 week from today |
| [19:12:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [19:12:00] | Beirdo: | and Monday's a holiday |
| [19:12:00] | Beirdo: | so next week will be super-short for me |
| [19:12:00] | kormoc: | Victora day? |
| [19:12:00] | kormoc: | I thought that was only a bc thing? |
| [19:12:00] | Beirdo: | yupper |
| [19:12:00] | Beirdo: | it's all of Canada |
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| [19:13:00] | kormoc: | coolness :) |
| [19:13:00] | ** SarahEmm 's schedule gives her the nice advantage that taking 4 days off gives me a 12 day-off period ** | |
| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | Queen Victoria was for all of Canada, after all :) |
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| [19:13:00] | kormoc: | ooh, I thought it was named after the city of Victora :P |
| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | the city was named after the Queen at the time |
| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | The city of Victoria was named after Queen Victoria |
| [19:14:00] | Beirdo: | as was Regina |
| [19:14:00] | kormoc: | fair nuff :) |
| [19:14:00] | Beirdo: | Regina being latin for queen |
| [19:14:00] | kormoc: | the story of kingsway (the oddest street in Vancouver) amuses me a lot too |
| [19:14:00] | ** j-rod will be in Victoria later tonight ** | |
| [19:14:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: you rule :) |
| [19:14:00] | kormoc: | lucky ducky :) |
| [19:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | I haven't been back to Victoria in years |
| [19:14:00] | j-rod: | getting utterly shit-faced, most likely |
| [19:14:00] | Beirdo: | taking any pictures? |
| [19:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use to live there a while back |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx: you need to do your time as a newfie soon |
| [19:15:00] | j-rod: | I'll have my treo, so maybe... |
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| [19:15:00] | j-rod: | mostly just playing ball and gettting hammered with teammates |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | sounds like fun |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | and you'll be using Canadian beer to do so :) |
| [19:16:00] | jasoncohen: | i find that my mdk mythtv backend ofen gets really slow (for video playback) for no apparent reason and i have to restart to remedy the problem. Would i be better off running my backend on debian? |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | make sure not to open the beer with the bat |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | jasoncohen: try it and find out. Dunno what difference it would make |
| [19:16:00] | j-rod: | nope, probably not so much Canadian beer |
| [19:17:00] | Beirdo: | no? |
| [19:17:00] | j-rod: | more likely hard stuff |
| [19:17:00] | Beirdo: | you better not be drinking Yank beer then |
| [19:17:00] | SarahEmm: | menu |
| [19:17:00] | Beirdo: | ahhh |
| [19:17:00] | Beirdo: | OK |
| [19:17:00] | j-rod: | wodka |
| [19:17:00] | jasoncohen: | Beirdo, what distro do you run on? Do you ever get such random slowdowns? |
| [19:17:00] | Beirdo: | mmmm |
| [19:17:00] | Beirdo: | FC1, and I don't know if the backend randomly slows down... |
| [19:17:00] | Beirdo: | I only watch the frontend |
| [19:17:00] | j-rod: | maybe some Canadian whiskey for good measure |
| [19:18:00] | Beirdo: | mmm :) |
| [19:18:00] | Beirdo: | Crown Royal? |
| [19:18:00] | j-rod: | we shall see |
| [19:18:00] | Beirdo: | or Canadian Club? |
| [19:18:00] | Beirdo: | should get some screech |
| [19:18:00] | Beirdo: | wrong coast though |
| [19:18:00] | Beirdo: | that's a newfie invention |
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| [19:18:00] | j-rod: | screech? the dude from saved by the bell? |
| [19:19:00] | Beirdo: | hehe, the drink |
| [19:19:00] | j-rod: | not familiar with it |
| [19:19:00] | jasoncohen: | video sometimes skips very badly (usually when something's recording). this happens randomly as i usually don't have any issues even when recording + flagging two shows |
| [19:19:00] | Beirdo: | you can drink him too, but I think you'd need to be quite drunk |
| [19:19:00] | jasoncohen: | it's always fixed by a reboot |
| [19:19:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: http://wikyonos.seos.uvic.ca/people/afanning/NFLD/screech.html |
| [19:20:00] | Beirdo: | really vile rum, apparently :) |
| [19:20:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:20:00] | Beirdo: | I wanna try it, but never done so yet |
| [19:21:00] | Beirdo: | I actually saw it in the store here once |
| [19:21:00] | Beirdo: | shoulda bought a bottle |
| [19:21:00] | Beirdo: | funny |
| [19:21:00] | j-rod: | "Arrrr, yer in the navy now, boy, have some rum drinks!" |
| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | that link is at UVictoria |
| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:22:00] | j-rod: | mai-tai: polynesian for dumb-fuck |
| [19:22:00] | j-rod: | (Robin Williams, Live at the Met) |
| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | there are a bunch of mai-tais in the channel most days :) |
| [19:22:00] | mchou: | hehe.... |
| [19:24:00] | mchou: | hmm, how do you tell mythfilldb to update/refresh the next 7 days? It only refreshes "today+tommorrow" by default..... |
| [19:25:00] | Beirdo: | use the source... |
| [19:26:00] | kormoc: | I am *so* gonna see Chronicles of Narnia in the theaters. |
| [19:26:00] | CyberKnet: | you arE? |
| [19:26:00] | CyberKnet: | that's nice. |
| [19:26:00] | Beirdo: | WHAT? |
| [19:26:00] | laga: | kormoc: me too. |
| [19:26:00] | Beirdo: | are they doing all the books? |
| [19:26:00] | mchou: | trailers link? |
| [19:26:00] | laga: | kormoc: saw the preview when i was watching episode III. |
| [19:27:00] | kormoc: | http://progressive.stream.aol.com/aol/us/movi . . . _high_dl.mov |
| [19:27:00] | kormoc: | laga, ya, same here :) |
| [19:27:00] | laga: | kormoc: heh. |
| [19:27:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, My understanding is they are if the first one sells well |
| [19:28:00] | laga: | kormoc: looked quite violent ;) |
| [19:28:00] | CyberKnet: | I have to wonder how well such an obviously pro-christian movie will do at the box office. The passion of the Christ was emotionally tearing and brought in almost the entire christian market, but I don't think Narnia is as universal... |
| [19:28:00] | kormoc: | just as the books were! |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: cool, I'm there, dude |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | those books rule |
| [19:28:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [19:28:00] | laga: | kormoc: i haven't read the books yet, unfortunately. |
| [19:28:00] | kormoc: | ooh, they are quite grand :) |
| [19:28:00] | laga: | i wonder if anyone here has read the sten-chronicles? |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: many people don't see the Christian allegory |
| [19:28:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: Not denying it, but that is quite hard to believe. |
| [19:29:00] | kormoc: | just cause it's christian doesn't make it bad imho |
| [19:29:00] | j-rod: | I'd rather see Piers Anthony's "For Love of Evil" |
| [19:29:00] | j-rod: | :) |
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| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: well, C.S. Lewis made it with strong Christian allegory, but then again, so did Tolkien for the LOTR, although not quite as blatantly |
| [19:30:00] | mchou: | hmm, looks pretty good. |
| [19:30:00] | CyberKnet: | Don't get me wrong. I very much enjoyed those books when I was a child. I just have to wonder if they are as universally cherished by people as was the passion of the Christ |
| [19:30:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: you're an idiot. |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | I didn't go see Mel's dramatization |
| [19:30:00] | mchou: | there's no comparison. |
| [19:30:00] | kormoc: | I didn't go see Passion neather |
| [19:30:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: no comparison between? |
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| [19:31:00] | kormoc: | Passion was about Jesus on a dramitic level |
| [19:31:00] | mchou: | Passion doesnt compare to narnia or rings. |
| [19:31:00] | kormoc: | Narnia is a story with christina undertones |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: not undertones |
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| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | it's an allegory |
| [19:31:00] | SarahEmm: | christina undertones? *giggle* |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | much like Pilgrim's Progress is |
| [19:31:00] | kormoc: | yeah... fine, allegory :) |
| [19:31:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: of course there is a comparison. They are both christian epics. One is fact and one is a fictional allegory. |
| [19:31:00] | kormoc: | pilgrim's progress is just odd... |
| [19:32:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: I doubt passion is "fact" |
| [19:32:00] | kormoc: | I had to memorize it in highschool. |
| [19:32:00] | FITH: | CyberKnet: Some might say both... |
| [19:32:00] | FITH: | (are fiction) |
| [19:32:00] | CyberKnet: | FITH: Some might. I wouldn't though. |
| [19:32:00] | mchou: | FITH: is right. |
| [19:32:00] | Beirdo: | mchou: doubt all you want |
| [19:32:00] | FITH: | Fair enough :) |
| [19:32:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: don't be a dumbass. |
| [19:33:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: yeah, Pilgrim's Progress is a much stranger allegory |
| [19:33:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: you're the dumbass if you think passion is remotely close to "fact" |
| [19:33:00] | Beirdo: | mchou: enough of that |
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| [19:34:00] | kormoc: | Honestly |
| [19:34:00] | Beirdo: | you don't hear anyone here telling you you're a dumbass for your beliefs. |
| [19:34:00] | Beirdo: | so shut it |
| [19:34:00] | xnor_: | Hi, when i start mythtvbackend i get the following message "DB scheduler connection is defined, but isn't attached to a cardinput"(the live tv dont work) and i also wonder how i can check the ir remote, when i run irw i get the right happague button assignments but in myth nothing works, please give me an evening with a working setup :) |
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| [19:35:00] | mchou: | So are dumbasses who subscribe to creationism and "irreducible complexity" |
| [19:35:00] | Beirdo: | xnor_: you didn't finish your setup |
| [19:35:00] | laga: | creationism is fun, heh. |
| [19:35:00] | kormoc: | mchou, there is no reason to bash people who beleive differently then yourself |
| [19:35:00] | Beirdo: | mchou: what part of "enough" did you not understand? |
| [19:36:00] | xnor_: | Beirdo: i thought i did |
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| [19:36:00] | Beirdo: | xnor_: it's saying your video source isn't attached to a card input.. sounds like it's not done to me |
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| [19:37:00] | xnor_: | Beirdo: Can you give me an example how i attach one? |
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| [19:37:00] | xnor_: | Beirdo: Witch menu? |
| [19:37:00] | laga: | burn it!! |
| [19:37:00] | Beirdo: | in mythtv-setup |
| [19:38:00] | Beirdo: | it's #3 or so, I think |
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| [19:39:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: what I am saying is that the passion of the christ was paramount picture of the generation for most christians, and to them the story it played out was core to their life beliefs. What I was pondering was whether the chronicles of Narnia would have anywhere near the same following. I personally doubt it. |
| [19:39:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: Now, if you want to piss on that because you personally are going to hell.. go ahead. But the question I was postulating is still valid. |
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| [19:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | Way to take the high road |
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| [19:40:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: I think MORE people will go watch Narnia |
| [19:40:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: I assume you are not talking about Crimson Skies? |
| [19:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | no :) |
| [19:40:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: time will tell, I guess. |
| [19:40:00] | Beirdo: | there's less political baggage related to it |
| [19:40:00] | GreyFoxx: | I will go see the Narnia stuff, but had no interest in Passion of the Christ |
| [19:41:00] | Beirdo: | it's based on an obvious work of fiction rather than a holy book |
| [19:41:00] | Beirdo: | so it won't offend people |
| [19:41:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: Narnia and Rings have much more universal appeal than "Passion" |
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| [19:41:00] | lucas333: | Cardoe: are you doing the .18.1 ebuild? |
| [19:41:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: care to let me know what you were responding to? my IRC client froze up for about four minutes and this all flooded in at once |
| [19:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | [03:39pm]<CyberKnet> mchou: Now, if you want to piss on that because you |
| [19:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | personally are going to hell.. go ahead. But the question |
| [19:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | I was postulating is still valid. |
| [19:41:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: Take it from me, a heathen, who has reall all the books you're alluding to. |
| [19:42:00] | Beirdo: | I know MANY Christians who refused to watch Mel's movie becuase it wouldn't (out of necessity) follow scripture |
| [19:42:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: in hindsight, "going to hell" was not exactly called for =) |
| [19:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: Yeah, I know a couple |
| [19:42:00] | mchou: | read* |
| [19:42:00] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [19:42:00] | Beirdo: | whereas Narnia won't have that |
| [19:42:00] | kormoc: | Narnia is also a very well known children's story |
| [19:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | But it's also so graphic that I can understand why anyone would not want to see it, regardless of reglious influence |
| [19:43:00] | Beirdo: | it may be too violent in a movie for a lot of people, but it has appeal on several levels |
| [19:43:00] | mchou: | to even compare "Passion" to Narnia or Rings is just ludicous. |
| [19:43:00] | kormoc: | a lot of people with no christian background fondly remember the story and will want to see it |
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| [19:43:00] | mchou: | ludicrous* |
| [19:43:00] | Beirdo: | mchou: no it's not |
| [19:43:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: I honestly dont have the statistics required to prove or disprove that statement you made... but my personal belief is that the audience for narnia is less than the audience that the passion of the christ saw. |
| [19:43:00] | Beirdo: | the movie representations are just that. |
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| [19:43:00] | Beirdo: | they are movies |
| [19:43:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: But that is solely my opinion. |
| [19:43:00] | Beirdo: | and as such, you can easily compare their draw |
| [19:44:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: heh, look at box office of Rings vs Passion. |
| [19:44:00] | kormoc: | I'd be willing to wadger that narnia's opening weekend will be a lot larger then you think |
| [19:44:00] | Beirdo: | Yeah, when does it open? |
| [19:44:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: I assume then that you have? |
| [19:44:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: your fallacy is that you think "Passion" has universal appeal just because it reflects YOUR beliefs. |
| [19:44:00] | kormoc: | Beirdo, Dec 8th |
| [19:44:00] | kormoc: | erm |
| [19:44:00] | kormoc: | 9th |
| [19:45:00] | Beirdo: | cool |
| [19:45:00] | kormoc: | quite a bit away :/ |
| [19:45:00] | Beirdo: | about when LOTR 4 woulda come out if it existed |
| [19:45:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:45:00] | kormoc: | hehe, true |
| [19:45:00] | Beirdo: | good timing |
| [19:45:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: No, I am basing my opinion from numbers. I do not believe that the narnia following is nearly as large as the LotR following. And LotR did not eclipse the passion at the 50 day mark |
| [19:45:00] | kormoc: | I was told by some people that a lot of the LOTR folks did work on Narnia |
| [19:46:00] | CyberKnet: | I am speaking cumulative gross |
| [19:46:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: lol. |
| [19:46:00] | kormoc: | and the trailer does show quite a similar movie style imho |
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| [19:46:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: I wouldn't doubt it |
| [19:46:00] | Beirdo: | the books were written by friends |
| [19:46:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [19:46:00] | Beirdo: | why shouldn't the movies be similar? :) |
| [19:46:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: comparison is Return of the King vs Passion of the Christ |
| [19:46:00] | kormoc: | true enough :) |
| [19:47:00] | kormoc: | and honestly, the animated LOTR and animated Narnia were very similar too :P |
| [19:47:00] | jams: | yeah both were terrible |
| [19:47:00] | CyberKnet: | jams: heh =) |
| [19:47:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: http://www.the-numbers.com/features/Passion.php |
| [19:47:00] | mchou: | lol, return of the king?? Are you a creationist? |
| [19:47:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:48:00] | Beirdo: | mchou: get a clue already will you? |
| [19:48:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: Try the fellowship of the ring. |
| [19:48:00] | Beirdo: | kormoc: the animated versions... hehe, yeah they sucked |
| [19:48:00] | kormoc: | :) |
| [19:48:00] | gnarface: | is this for real? http://www.newturfers.com/mwf/attach/38/35583 . . . ng-Fight.htm |
| [19:48:00] | mchou: | Beirdo: what clue? I'm attacking his argument style, pointing that CyberKnet cherrypicks data. |
| [19:49:00] | mchou: | i.e. creationist argument style. |
| [19:49:00] | Beirdo: | and you are being abusive towards a large portion of the population of this continent |
| [19:49:00] | Beirdo: | if you can't be unoffensive, it would be best to shut the pie hole |
| [19:51:00] | xnor_: | What can this error depend on? Using resampler. From: 0 to 1000 |
| [19:51:00] | xnor_: | IVTV_IOC_GET_FB: Invalid argument |
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| [19:51:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: fellowship of the ring at the 50 day mark did about 380,000 |
| [19:51:00] | CyberKnet: | about 40,000 more than the passion of the christ |
| [19:51:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: I picked the 50 day mark because I dont have data beyond that |
| [19:51:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: it's not cherry picked at all. |
| [19:51:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: to compare the passion of the christ to the fellowship of the ring beyond 50 days would be pointless. |
| [19:53:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=fellowshipofthering.htm |
| [19:53:00] | mchou: | http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=passionofthechrist.htm |
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| [19:54:00] | mchou: | look at the worldwide gross and tell me which has more "universal" appeal, lol |
| [19:55:00] | CyberKnet: | hah |
| [19:55:00] | CyberKnet: | http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=passionofthechrist.htm |
| [19:55:00] | CyberKnet: | check out the total domestic gross |
| [19:55:00] | CyberKnet: | sheesh |
| [19:55:00] | CyberKnet: | you should have stuck with Return of the King |
| [19:56:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: and what's so "special" about 50 days??? |
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| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | with respect to movies? |
| [19:56:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:56:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: I already ANSWERED that. The data source I had for passion of the christ only had 50 days |
| [19:56:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: I dont need to. Your proposition was "universal" appeal. |
| [19:56:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: listen. |
| [19:56:00] | Dr_Barnowl: | Anyone using a WinTV Nova-T USB2.0 know where to get the dibusb firmware for it? |
| [19:57:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: Regardless, this comparison is moot. |
| [19:57:00] | gnarface: | god can the two of you stop your little lover's quarrel and work on figuring out why usb-uirt is broken on my machine? |
| [19:57:00] | CyberKnet: | gnarface: I don't care why your machine isn't working =) |
| [19:57:00] | CyberKnet: | gnarface: you're getting no less help from me than if we were not discussing this. |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | gnarface: no, usb-uirt is not likely to get help here as none of us have it :) |
| [19:58:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: why is it moot? Your proposition was "universal" appeal. I've just shown passion doesnt have "universal" appeal. |
| [19:58:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: Because, my friend, Lord of the Rings is not Narnia |
| [19:58:00] | Beirdo: | who fuckin cares? |
| [19:58:00] | mchou: | based on worldwide gross. |
| [19:59:00] | smeagel: | look cyberknet |
| [19:59:00] | smeagel: | are you honestly arguing |
| [19:59:00] | smeagel: | that it has universal appeal? |
| [19:59:00] | CyberKnet: | smeagel: not at all. |
| [19:59:00] | smeagel: | because universal implies appeal to everyone |
| [19:59:00] | Beirdo: | no movie ever has or ever WILL have true universal appeal |
| [19:59:00] | Beirdo: | move along, nothing to see here |
| [19:59:00] | smeagel: | but they can get a lot closer |
| [19:59:00] | smeagel: | than chiming in on a single religion |
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| [20:00:00] | smeagel: | if you write a movie based on Joseph Campbells writings (starwars for instance was) then you will have cross-cultural appeal |
| [20:00:00] | CyberKnet: | smeagel: I made pondered one question out loud and mchou got her panties in a wad. *shrug* |
| [20:00:00] | smeagel: | i obviously stepped into this conversation late ;) |
| [20:00:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: cause your proposition was so ludicrous.....lol |
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| [20:00:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: meh |
| [20:00:00] | mchou: | Passion==universal, lol. |
| [20:01:00] | Beirdo: | smeagel: over 1/5 of the world's population is nominally Christian. that's a large number of people |
| [20:01:00] | Beirdo: | so... |
| [20:01:00] | smeagel: | that's 1/5 |
| [20:01:00] | mchou: | you forgot all the other religions out there with your myopic world-view. |
| [20:01:00] | smeagel: | so at best you're going to please 20% |
| [20:01:00] | smeagel: | that's not exactly universal |
| [20:02:00] | CyberKnet: | smeagel: you came into this way too late and are focusing on mchou's misunderstanding of the context of the word universal. |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | get a clue people. mchou's the one stuck on "universal appeal" |
| [20:02:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: exactly. |
| [20:02:00] | mchou: | over half the world is female, lol. |
| [20:02:00] | FITH: | /topic God? Yes or no, please voice your opinion here! |
| [20:02:00] | mchou: | smeagel: check out the logs at http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLogs |
| [20:02:00] | Beirdo: | as a potential market for a film, 1/5 of the world's population's a pretty good start anyways |
| [20:02:00] | smeagel: | i've been on all day |
| [20:02:00] | smeagel: | so i can just scroll up ;) |
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| [20:03:00] | SarahEmm: | clear |
| [20:03:00] | SarahEmm: | oops. |
| [20:03:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: now that your position is untenable, you accuse me of getting stuck on "universal," lol. |
| [20:03:00] | smeagel: | "Don't get me wrong. I very much enjoyed those books when I was a child. I just have to wonder if they are as universally cherished by people as was the passion of the Christ" |
| [20:04:00] | mchou: | bot by box office stats and by world religion stats. |
| [20:04:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: just be quiet. seriously. It is not and never was a competition. |
| [20:04:00] | mchou: | both* |
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| [20:04:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: lol. |
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| [20:04:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: if you want to get hung up on one word, go ahead. |
| [20:04:00] | mchou: | smeagel hit the nail right on the head. |
| [20:05:00] | mchou: | one word??? That was your whole argument. |
| [20:05:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: I didn't *have* an argument. |
| [20:05:00] | mchou: | universal appeal |
| [20:05:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: I had a QUESTION. |
| [20:05:00] | Beirdo: | mchou: YOU made it an argument |
| [20:05:00] | smeagel: | you also have to think about something else |
| [20:05:00] | CyberKnet: | dumbass |
| [20:05:00] | smeagel: | when you consider passion of the christ |
| [20:05:00] | gnarface: | mythtv-users and you guys are arguing about whether there's a god? is that what's going on here? |
| [20:05:00] | smeagel: | i'm in a university town |
| [20:05:00] | smeagel: | I know about 3x as many people that went to laugh and be baffled that it was produced |
| [20:05:00] | smeagel: | as those who went to see it seriously |
| [20:06:00] | smeagel: | i doubt there's an influence like that in LOTR/Narnia |
| [20:06:00] | CyberKnet: | how can you "lose" a question like you do an argument. the idea is preposterous. |
| [20:06:00] | smeagel: | but I guess there are some hardcore anti-sci-fi out there ;) |
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| [20:06:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: your question was ludicrous to begin with. |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | there are quite a few, smeagel |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | mchou: and you've been nothing but abusive in general |
| [20:06:00] | smeagel: | but they're not the type that go to see something in to be shocked and baffled |
| [20:06:00] | CyberKnet: | mchou: But it *wasn't* an argument |
| [20:07:00] | smeagel: | it's like how republicans were buying tickets to go see farenheit just to hate it |
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| [20:07:00] | Beirdo: | smeagel: there is a certain amount of that I'm sure |
| [20:07:00] | mchou: | smeagel: I didnt know of any repubs who actually bought tickets for farenheit. |
| [20:08:00] | mchou: | smeagel: they were paid to go see it :) |
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| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | but there's also the large number of Christians who didn't want to see the Passion movie as it's not accurate to scripture |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | so it all evens out |
| [20:08:00] | smeagel: | not really |
| [20:08:00] | CyberKnet: | And some of us just cant see Jesus as looking like Mel Gibson =P" |
| [20:08:00] | smeagel: | those people have no influence |
| [20:08:00] | Beirdo: | and in the end, I don't think Mel Gibson gave a crap why people went to see it |
| [20:08:00] | smeagel: | if they have no interest in the movie, then it doesn't reach them |
| [20:09:00] | smeagel: | whether the reason is due to their christianity or not |
| [20:09:00] | Beirdo: | all he cared is that people DID go |
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| [20:10:00] | smeagel: | i suppose |
| [20:10:00] | Beirdo: | a lot of why people go to movies comes down to the marketing, and the surrounding controversy |
| [20:10:00] | smeagel: | i wasn't even referring to people going or not |
| [20:10:00] | smeagel: | I was referring to universal appeal |
| [20:10:00] | smeagel: | and i think that the Passion is quite low when compared to LOTR |
| [20:10:00] | smeagel: | for reasons that go beyond simply box office stats |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | not in the market it was aimed at |
| [20:11:00] | smeagel: | but confining it to a market |
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| [20:11:00] | smeagel: | does not make it universally appealing |
| [20:11:00] | smeagel: | that's like saying |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | they BOTH were high appeal in their respective markets (which overlap) |
| [20:11:00] | smeagel: | "100% of people believe in God" (when polling in church) |
| [20:11:00] | mchou: | lol :) |
| [20:11:00] | CyberKnet: | smeagel: would you like an honest to god explanation of what I meant by universal? |
| [20:11:00] | smeagel: | sure |
| [20:12:00] | CyberKnet: | I'll give it to you if mchou will shut up |
| [20:12:00] | CyberKnet: | when I said universal, *in context* it meant within the christian market segment |
| [20:12:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [20:12:00] | CyberKnet: | [14:28] <CyberKnet> I have to wonder how well such an obviously pro-christian movie will do at the box office. The passion of the Christ was emotionally tearing and brought in almost the entire christian market, but I don't think Narnia is as universal... |
| [20:12:00] | CyberKnet: | that's the quite right there |
| [20:12:00] | CyberKnet: | I mention the christian market, and then mention narnia as not being as universal within that market as the passion of the christ |
| [20:13:00] | kormoc: | ooh, I think it is indeed |
| [20:13:00] | kormoc: | I think every christina knows bout Narnia |
| [20:13:00] | CyberKnet: | having already mentioned prior to that comment that I thought most of the narnia audience would be christian |
| [20:13:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: that too is a fallacy. |
| [20:13:00] | smeagel: | why will most of the narnia audience be christian? |
| [20:13:00] | CyberKnet: | now, whether or not I am RIGHT about mosto f the audience being christian ... is irrelevant |
| [20:13:00] | mchou: | smeagel hits it on the head again |
| [20:13:00] | CyberKnet: | shut up mchou |
| [20:14:00] | smeagel: | hah this is getting a little aggressive |
| [20:14:00] | smeagel: | i'll just stop arguing |
| [20:14:00] | CyberKnet: | it's not aggressive |
| [20:14:00] | mchou: | CyberKnet: no, you just keep on digging a deeper grave for yourself...... |
| [20:14:00] | CyberKnet: | I'm just not going to argue with someone who is only out to contradict. |
| [20:14:00] | smeagel: | i just think american christians are taking a lot of things for granted, one large thing being their societal dominance |
| [20:14:00] | CyberKnet: | smeagel: I'm not american |
| [20:14:00] | Beirdo: | smeagel: because... the Chronicles of Narnia is a Christian allegory written by a prominent Christian, and is widely read by Christians |
| [20:14:00] | laga: | kormoc: i'm catholic and havent heard anything about narnia. |
| [20:15:00] | kormoc: | ooh? |
| [20:15:00] | smeagel: | Beirdo I had never heard of that before |
| [20:15:00] | smeagel: | and when younger I both read Narnia and went to church |
| [20:15:00] | Beirdo: | C.S. Lewis was a very prominent Christian |
| [20:15:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: 100% of christians know of christ... that's all I was saying. |
| [20:15:00] | smeagel: | do you really believe that will be a significant factor in the box office/appeal of it? |
| [20:15:00] | mchou: | C.S Lewis happens to be a great mathematician..... |
| [20:15:00] | smeagel: | I believe you |
| [20:15:00] | smeagel: | I"m not saying you're wrong at all |
| [20:15:00] | Beirdo: | go look up the other stuff he wrote :) |
| [20:16:00] | Beirdo: | smeagel: I really do think it will have a large effect on the box office appeal |
| [20:16:00] | CyberKnet: | absolutely it will |
| [20:16:00] | CyberKnet: | which way, who knows |
| [20:16:00] | smeagel: | again i think you overestimate the influence of christinianity on the masses |
| [20:16:00] | mchou: | That's like saying ppl went to see rings cause it had "christian" appeal, lol. |
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| [20:17:00] | smeagel: | do you really believe that a significant percentage of christians even know about this literary connection? |
| [20:17:00] | FITH: | http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch . . . sg_id=003KZC (About 1/3rd of the way down the page) |
| [20:17:00] | Beirdo: | AND as it's less controversial than Mel's adaptation of the biblical events... I think that within the Christian market, there will be a lot more widespread acceptance of the Narnia movies |
| [20:17:00] | Beirdo: | smeagel: yes, quite a large number will |
| [20:17:00] | CyberKnet: | FITH: that would be what I was talking about =) |
| [20:18:00] | Beirdo: | smeagel: I think you underestimate the influence of Christianity on it's adherents, which comprise a LARGE proportion of the USA |
| [20:19:00] | smeagel: | The largest denomination of which are Catholics |
| [20:19:00] | smeagel: | and then Southern Baptists |
| [20:19:00] | Beirdo: | so? |
| [20:19:00] | smeagel: | That's the two sides of my family |
| [20:19:00] | smeagel: | I grew up in both those churches |
| [20:19:00] | smeagel: | and never heard a thing about the Narnia connection when growing up |
| [20:19:00] | mchou: | smeagel: man, you must have been pretty fscked up :) |
| [20:19:00] | CyberKnet: | smeagel: aah. that is unfortunate |
| [20:19:00] | smeagel: | The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe also being myf avorite cartoon movie when i was a kid ;) |
| [20:20:00] | Beirdo: | smeagel: you missed the whole point of the books then :) |
| [20:20:00] | smeagel: | I don't think so |
| [20:20:00] | CyberKnet: | smeagel: the very best part of the books is the correlation of aslan to Jesus. |
| [20:20:00] | Beirdo: | still excellent books |
| [20:20:00] | smeagel: | And the best part of Dostoevskys the idiot is the correlation to Jesus |
| [20:20:00] | CyberKnet: | smeagel: sorry, in my opinion, that is |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: not in your opinion... in the author's opinion |
| [20:21:00] | smeagel: | but that doesn't mean you have to be a christian and believe in the correlation to enjoy it |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | true |
| [20:21:00] | CyberKnet: | smeagel: no, of course not. SOrry, I didn't mean to infer that you would have to be. |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | neither did I :) |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | but it will increase the draw |
| [20:21:00] | Beirdo: | as it can be enjoyed on many levels |
| [20:21:00] | smeagel: | the truth is the greatest masterpieces, usually far exceed and outreach anything the author could have dreamed |
| [20:22:00] | smeagel: | at that point interpretation is usually left up to the onlooker |
| [20:22:00] | Beirdo: | whereas the Passion really can only be appreciated on one level |
| [20:22:00] | smeagel: | exactly |
| [20:22:00] | smeagel: | that was somewhat my point |
| [20:22:00] | CyberKnet: | smeagel: But what I am saying is that for me, the correlation of Jesus to Aslan made the series more personal to me than if it were not there. And that made me enjoy it a lot more. |
| [20:22:00] | Beirdo: | which is why I think Narnia movies will do better |
| [20:22:00] | Beirdo: | given proper marketing |
| [20:22:00] | CyberKnet: | well, I hope they do. |
| [20:23:00] | CyberKnet: | I certainly have nothing against them. |
| [20:23:00] | Beirdo: | and if they are advertising it in the trailers for Episode III, they are getting a good start on the marketing |
| [20:23:00] | smeagel: | I agree beirdo |
| [20:23:00] | smeagel: | because as an atheist, Narnia reaches me, but Passion never could |
| [20:24:00] | smeagel: | and the atheist/agnostic market is not one to be looked lightly upon either — especially in the sci-fi/fantasy arena |
| [20:24:00] | CyberKnet: | smeagel: well, I'm glad you enjoyed the Narnia books. |
| [20:24:00] | Beirdo: | oh, for sure |
| [20:24:00] | smeagel: | about 1/8 the size of the christian market in America |
| [20:24:00] | smeagel: | but there's no reason a "universal" movie shouldn't reach atheists the same as christians |
| [20:25:00] | Beirdo: | true :) |
| [20:25:00] | CyberKnet: | smeagel: in my opinion, if it reaches the athiests, so much the better =) |
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| [20:25:00] | CyberKnet: | I hope they get a great story out of it. |
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| [20:26:00] | Esotericisms: | damn cox cable provider ... pos |
| [20:26:00] | CyberKnet: | hr hr |
| [20:26:00] | Beirdo: | I hope they don't mess up C.S. Lewis' masterpieces |
| [20:26:00] | CyberKnet: | it's like homestarrunner all over again |
| [20:26:00] | smeagel: | not as bad as Yahoo DSL |
| [20:27:00] | smeagel: | somedays I get 160KBPS...somedays I get 45 |
| [20:27:00] | smeagel: | so much for the steadiness of DSL |
| [20:27:00] | laga: | i get a constant of 115kbps |
| [20:27:00] | smeagel: | beirdo: it'll be interesting to see how they do it |
| [20:27:00] | Beirdo: | over-multiplexed DSL still sucks |
| [20:27:00] | Beirdo: | if they didn't over-multiplex, it would be rock solid |
| [20:28:00] | smeagel: | whatever the reason |
| [20:28:00] | smeagel: | I can't stand it |
| [20:28:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:28:00] | smeagel: | I've owned horid cable-modems several times that were 5x as stable and 5x as fast |
| [20:28:00] | Esotericisms: | Beirdo, you talking about the new Narnia movie? |
| [20:28:00] | smeagel: | but they charge too much with directtv ;) |
| [20:28:00] | smeagel: | lol |
| [20:29:00] | Beirdo: | we were |
| [20:29:00] | smeagel: | we have been a bit esto |
| [20:29:00] | smeagel: | *eso |
| [20:29:00] | Esotericisms: | well I wasn't around .. internet connection went down |
| [20:29:00] | kormoc: | tis too bad, was a good talk |
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| [20:30:00] | Esotericisms: | yeah sounds like it ... I just saw the trailer for it ... it was awesome |
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| [20:30:00] | Phr3x0r: | Hi room |
| [20:30:00] | Phr3x0r: | how is everyone? |
| [20:30:00] | Phr3x0r: | =) |
| [20:31:00] | Esotericisms: | j-rod, what is that line again that I need to add to my modprobe.conf regarding tveeprom for my card? |
| [20:31:00] | ** Phr3x0r was just wondering what some good hardware would be to use with a HTPC/PVR ** | |
| [20:32:00] | Phr3x0r: | besides hauppage. |
| [20:32:00] | Phr3x0r: | hauppauge* |
| [20:32:00] | j-rod: | alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv |
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| [20:33:00] | laga: | Phr3x0r: what's wrong with hauppauge? |
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| [20:33:00] | gnarface: | ARG |
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| [20:34:00] | Esotericisms: | damnit ... |
| [20:34:00] | Phr3x0r: | nothing, i was just wondering what other alternatives there are |
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| [20:35:00] | Phr3x0r: | i havent really looked into it, so i thought i'd ask some other peoples opinions first. |
| [20:35:00] | Esotericisms: | when I do 'apt-get install ivtv' I get the following error 'file /usr/share/man/man3/Video::Frequencies.3pm.gz conflicts between attempted installs of perl-Video-Capture-V41–0.225.1.1.fc3.rf and perl-Video-Frequencies-0.03.2.rhfc3.at' |
| [20:36:00] | Esotericisms: | any ideas? |
| [20:36:00] | laga: | Phr3x0r: the plextor convertx something. cant say anything about its quality, though. |
| [20:36:00] | Phr3x0r: | thanx, i'll google it. =) |
| [20:37:00] | laga: | Phr3x0r: it does *gasp* mpeg4 |
| [20:38:00] | Phr3x0r: | nice, it looks good |
| [20:38:00] | Esotericisms: | can anybody help? |
| [20:38:00] | Phr3x0r: | also looks pricey |
| [20:38:00] | laga: | Phr3x0r: heh |
| [20:39:00] | Esotericisms: | j-rod, you around? I could use your help on this one |
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| [20:41:00] | dcfogg: | I still could use some help with my sound problem |
| [20:42:00] | Cardoe: | rm -rf / |
| [20:42:00] | Cardoe: | kill -9 -1 |
| [20:44:00] | laga: | commit suicide --now |
| [20:44:00] | laga: | :> |
| [20:44:00] | j-rod: | apt-get install perl-Video-Capture-V4l- perl-Video-Frequencies+ |
| [20:45:00] | Esotericisms: | done thanks ... hey what is the extra line I need to add to my modprobe regarding tveeprom? |
| [20:46:00] | laga: | 21:32 <+j-rod> alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv |
| [20:46:00] | sunilonln: | if anyone cares to know, .18.1 solved my channel changing problems, but sound is still garbled somewhat when watching live tv |
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| [20:47:00] | Esotericisms: | k |
| [20:47:00] | dcfogg: | so does anyone know how to configure the sound correctly using an audigy and a haupague wintv that uses bttv??? |
| [20:48:00] | SarahEmm: | well, do you have the audio card and wintv working, seperately? |
| [20:48:00] | dcfogg: | yes |
| [20:49:00] | dcfogg: | but when the sound on line is muted I cant get it to capture and so no sound when the sound is not muted I get sound that isn't recorded and wont shut down when I close MythTV |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | thou shalt search the mailing lists |
| [20:50:00] | dcfogg: | I did and the solutions I found were get another card :-( |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | well, of to the store... |
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| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | off even |
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| [20:51:00] | Cardoe: | Beirdo: what are you getting me? |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | no, I mean for dcfogg to go off to the store |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:51:00] | Manolis: | Hello – I'm trying to get HD-3000 via the 2.6.12 kernel |
| [20:52:00] | Manolis: | Can I apply patch-2.6.12-rc4-git4.bz2 or patch-2.6.12-rc4.bz2 directly to 2.6.11.10? |
| [20:52:00] | dcfogg: | someone has to have figured out how to set up an audigy emu10k1 with a framegrabber |
| [20:52:00] | Cardoe: | Manolis: the 2nd one probably would work |
| [20:52:00] | Cardoe: | Manolis: the 1st probably on top of the 2nd |
| [20:53:00] | Cardoe: | dcfogg: use snd-bt87x |
| [20:53:00] | dcfogg: | I tried that it doesnt seem to work |
| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | dcfogg: they have |
| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | it's mixer settings |
| [20:53:00] | Esotericisms: | hrm remote still foobard at this point |
| [20:55:00] | Manolis: | Cardoe: Thanks – if I get questions like The next patch would create the file Documentation/SecurityBugs which already exists! Assume -R? [n] |
| [20:55:00] | dcfogg: | there was this long thread in the mailing list that there wasn't a way to enable capture on Line with emu10k1 after ALSA .98 |
| [20:55:00] | Cardoe: | Manolis: I think the 2nd would apply clean to 2.6.11 |
| [20:55:00] | Cardoe: | .10 probably has that stuff in it already |
| [20:55:00] | Cardoe: | ignore it |
| [20:55:00] | dcfogg: | that is the one that said get a different card |
| [20:55:00] | Manolis: | Cardoe: how should I answer? |
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| [20:57:00] | dcfogg: | there is not an option to enable capture on seperate inputs the emu10k1 page says it captures all the inputs together but that doesn't seem to work |
| [20:57:00] | Manolis: | Cardoe: Sorry I just got bitchX-slapped |
| [20:58:00] | Manolis: | Cardoe: If I get messages like "The next patch would create the file Documentation/SecurityBugs which already exists! Assume -R? [n]" |
| [20:58:00] | Manolis: | Cardoe: How should I answer? no then yes? |
| [20:59:00] | dcfogg: | the error I get with snd-bt87x is this from mythbackend output |
| [20:59:00] | dcfogg: | 2005-05–19 21:58:51.145 NVR: Only read -1 bytes of 4096 bytes from '/dev/dsp1 |
| [20:59:00] | dcfogg: | read audio: Input/output error |
| [21:00:00] | Cardoe: | Manolis: sure.. probably want to just download a kernel from kernel.org |
| [21:01:00] | Manolis: | Cardoe: I actually did just download it from kernel.org |
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| [21:05:00] | Esotericisms: | well lirc still doesnt' work .. guess I will go buy a wireless keyboard and mouse |
| [21:06:00] | SarahEmm: | what's the issue Esotericisms? |
| [21:06:00] | Esotericisms: | just sec |
| [21:07:00] | Cardoe: | Manolis: you want a 2.6.12-rc4 kernel? |
| [21:07:00] | Esotericisms: | http://pastebin.ca/12208 |
| [21:07:00] | Esotericisms: | be back in 5 minutes |
| [21:08:00] | Manolis: | Cardoe: yes, just 2.6.12-rc4 – just got my HD-3000 today :) |
| [21:08:00] | Cardoe: | how are you still having issues with the most common remote? |
| [21:08:00] | Cardoe: | any reason you want .12? |
| [21:08:00] | Manolis: | Cardoe: for DVB and HD-3000 support? |
| [21:08:00] | SarahEmm: | Esotericisms: err.. does /dev/lirc exist? |
| [21:09:00] | SarahEmm: | does the user lircd is running as have rw permissions on it? |
| [21:10:00] | hadees: | also try running lircd in non spawn mode |
| [21:10:00] | hadees: | it will print information to the terminal it is run in |
| [21:11:00] | SarahEmm: | that looked like the info from non spawn mode. |
| [21:11:00] | hadees: | ah i didn't look at it, most people don't know what non spawn mode is |
| [21:12:00] | hadees: | i sound like a broken record |
| [21:12:00] | hadees: | should get out of that habit |
| [21:12:00] | Cardoe: | Manolis: I would get the 2.6.11 plain kernel and apply the patches |
| [21:12:00] | Esotericisms: | ok back |
| [21:12:00] | Esotericisms: | SarahEmm, no that device doesn't exist |
| [21:13:00] | Esotericisms: | and I know that is the problem ... just don't know how to fix |
| [21:13:00] | hadees: | Esotericisms, what is your IR hardware? |
| [21:14:00] | Cardoe: | he's got a PVR-150 |
| [21:14:00] | Cardoe: | his lirc_i2c module is not adding a /dev |
| [21:14:00] | kormoc: | that's not supported yet is it? |
| [21:15:00] | Cardoe: | I dunno if he's using udev or not |
| [21:15:00] | kormoc: | Last I remember, the Ir receiver and the ir blaster on the 150 was not supported yet |
| [21:15:00] | hadees: | kormoc, yeah same here but it might be now although when thing are first supported they are buggy |
| [21:16:00] | ** kormoc nods ** | |
| [21:16:00] | hadees: | if the module is loaded in the kernel there is a way to bind /dev/lirc to it i belive |
| [21:18:00] | Beirdo: | ah crap another season of "Canadian Idol" |
| [21:18:00] | Beirdo: | when will they ever learn? |
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| [21:18:00] | Esotericisms: | it was working yesterday |
| [21:18:00] | Esotericisms: | this new version of lirc is kinda borked I guess or ivtv |
| [21:18:00] | Esotericisms: | one of the two |
| [21:19:00] | kormoc: | so downgrade back to the working version? |
| [21:19:00] | hadees: | problem solved |
| [21:20:00] | Esotericisms: | I guess ... um how do I do that with fedora and apt-get? |
| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | man apt-get |
| [21:20:00] | Esotericisms: | I should say my suspicions point to the version |
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| [21:26:00] | Esotericisms: | isn't xvattr apart of xvideo? |
| [21:26:00] | GeckoFiend: | Esotericisms nope |
| [21:26:00] | GeckoFiend: | it's a seperate app |
| [21:26:00] | GeckoFiend: | I had to DL and compile it from source |
| [21:27:00] | Esotericisms: | found where ... apt isn't returning it when I do a search |
| [21:27:00] | Esotericisms: | oh really...bummer |
| [21:27:00] | GeckoFiend: | course I use Suse |
| [21:27:00] | Beirdo: | found by using google |
| [21:27:00] | ** GeckoFiend is spoiled ** | |
| [21:27:00] | Beirdo: | damn, how many times do we need to remind you about google :) |
| [21:28:00] | kormoc: | Esotericisms, http://tinyurl.com/2rfwr :P |
| [21:29:00] | ZMorek: | so LxMSuite is going to "replace" zap2it correct? |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | not correct |
| [21:30:00] | Esotericisms: | yeah funny, kormoc |
| [21:30:00] | ZMorek: | misconception on my part then |
| [21:31:00] | Esotericisms: | Beirdo, I am not seeing a way do downgrade in the man pages for apt-get |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | you tell it to install a specific version |
| [21:31:00] | Esotericisms: | ah ok |
| [21:31:00] | Esotericisms: | but I have to first remove the current version correct? |
| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | hmph |
| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | it should downgrade |
| [21:33:00] | Esotericisms: | ok |
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| [21:37:00] | dcfogg: | ok there was an answer on the mailing list |
| [21:37:00] | Esotericisms: | http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info. . . . p;pfp=BROWSE <-- this should work with fedora right ... |
| [21:37:00] | dcfogg: | now I just have an echo |
| [21:37:00] | GeckoFiend: | ZMorek it *can* replace it |
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| [21:39:00] | Esotericisms: | I really want this remote to work ... hrm |
| [21:39:00] | Beirdo: | Esotericisms: if it's a standard keyboard as seen by the computer, of course it will work with Fedora. Dumb question :) |
| [21:41:00] | Esotericisms: | well .. it is wireless |
| [21:42:00] | dcfogg: | well thanks for the help |
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| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | it's a PS/2 keyboard |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | that's all that matters |
| [21:46:00] | GeckoFiend: | heh "girls don't like boys girls like cars and money" |
| [21:46:00] | GeckoFiend: | struck me as funny |
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| [21:49:00] | laga: | struck me as true... |
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| [21:50:00] | ** laga sploits xnor_'s irc client ** | |
| [21:50:00] | xnor_: | How can i scan to get some channel working? i dont know any frequencies? |
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| [21:52:00] | jspotjj: | (a little off topic) anyone have any experience installing/troubleshooting ATI Remote Wonder using lic? |
| [21:52:00] | jspotjj: | I keep getting "could not open /dev/lirc" – and I've checked the obvious stuff |
| [21:52:00] | Esotericisms: | anyone in here got their pvr-150 remote working in here? if so what version of lirc and ivtv are you running? |
| [21:53:00] | iggy: | jspotjj: I thought the ati remote showed up as a normal input device (i.e. mouse and keyboard) |
| [21:53:00] | xnor_: | does anyone know how to scan tvchannels?? |
| [21:53:00] | Manolis: | xnor – to get their frequencies you mean? You can use scantv |
| [21:54:00] | jspotjj: | yes it did, and I had that working, but some people suggested using lirc instead |
| [21:54:00] | xnor_: | Manolis ahh thanks!! really nice |
| [21:56:00] | Beirdo: | lirc is a bitch |
| [21:56:00] | Manolis: | xnor_ – seriously? or are you being sarcastic? I can't quite tell.. |
| [21:56:00] | Esotericisms: | anyone in here got their pvr-150 remote working in here? if so what version of lirc and ivtv are you running? |
| [21:57:00] | xnor_: | Manolis: no i really mean it, i have missed that command, just scanned but get no station on all :( |
| [21:57:00] | jspotjj: | the two things I was trying to addres are a) the qt crl-enter issue b) the ability to reboot from the remote. Is it better to stick with ati_remote? |
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| [21:59:00] | kjhmyth: | anyone have advice on how to get HD3000 drivers working on FC3? My PVR-250 system has been in production for 'bout 2 months (no problems). But no progress with the HD3000. |
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| [22:01:00] | Manolis: | xnor_ starting with the basics – what kind of card do you have – does it show somewhere in "dmesg|more" ? |
| [22:02:00] | Esotericisms: | when I try and downgrade my ivtv it says it is dependent on ivtv-kmdl-<VERSION TO DOWNGRADE TO> ... so I try and downgrade that too, however it says it is a virtual package and cannot be done |
| [22:02:00] | Esotericisms: | help? |
| [22:03:00] | iggy: | Esotericisms: ask distro questions in your distros channel |
| [22:04:00] | kjhmyth: | I'm running 2.6.11–1.14_FC3smp. dmesg says: cx88[0]: Your board isn't known (yet) to the driver. |
| [22:05:00] | GeckoFiend: | thinking of redoing minimalist-wide to something like http://www.jdonavan.net/min2.jpg ... What do ya'll think? |
| [22:07:00] | sunilonln: | GeckoFiend: i like the second screenshot |
| [22:07:00] | Beirdo: | I think it might be more useful to me if I had widescreen :) |
| [22:07:00] | sunilonln: | the first one is a little too minimalist for me :) |
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| [22:07:00] | iggy: | sunilonln: agreed |
| [22:08:00] | GeckoFiend: | sunilonln thta's the point of the theme... very little graphics. |
| [22:08:00] | sunilonln: | yeah i know |
| [22:08:00] | iggy: | oh, minimalist-wide |
| [22:08:00] | iggy: | heh |
| [22:08:00] | sunilonln: | even so, it's not sleek |
| [22:08:00] | Ashlar: | heh. water's a little too wet for me ;) |
| [22:08:00] | gnome42: | Beirdo: are you around? |
| [22:09:00] | Beirdo: | maybe |
| [22:09:00] | iggy: | you just messed up |
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| [22:09:00] | gnome42: | Thanks for your help the other day |
| [22:09:00] | Beirdo: | no problem. |
| [22:09:00] | Beirdo: | like I remember :) |
| [22:09:00] | gnome42: | beavis: yeah, I know what you mean :) |
| [22:09:00] | Manolis: | Cardoe: Thanks for the help, you were right – patching plain 2.6.11 did the trick |
| [22:10:00] | gnome42: | That for for beirdo not beavis |
| [22:10:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:11:00] | gnome42: | Beirdo: Could you send me an lspci -vvv -xxx for your loaded nforce2 box? |
| [22:11:00] | sunilonln: | out of curiosity, what is the avg lag from signal supposed to be when watching live tv? |
| [22:11:00] | gnome42: | s/for/from/ |
| [22:11:00] | Beirdo: | not at the exact second |
| [22:11:00] | SarahEmm: | sunilonln: software encoding on mine, about 5 seconds i seem to recall? |
| [22:11:00] | sunilonln: | ok, i was getting 3 seconds with a pvr150 |
| [22:11:00] | gnome42: | Beirdo: OK, no prob. I will ask again later? |
| [22:12:00] | mchou: | lol, I go on nvidia site to get a readme and I get this: Alienware Aurora?: Star Wars Edition featuring NVIDIA SLI graphics technology. "Which side will be your destiny?" |
| [22:12:00] | SarahEmm: | sunilonln: that seems reasonable. |
| [22:12:00] | sunilonln: | k |
| [22:12:00] | sunilonln: | is there no way to get true live tv, or is that time spent rendering the image? |
| [22:13:00] | SarahEmm: | 'live tv' is recording to disk, then playing that back |
| [22:13:00] | SarahEmm: | so there's going to be lag |
| [22:13:00] | SarahEmm: | that lets you pause/rewind/etc |
| [22:13:00] | sunilonln: | ok |
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| [22:13:00] | Beirdo: | sure |
| [22:13:00] | gnome42: | thx |
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| [22:14:00] | Ashlar: | Shibz: try df -i ... you could have no more inodes free |
| [22:15:00] | Shibz: | /dev/hda3 1056 1056 0 100% /cache |
| [22:15:00] | Shibz: | yep, i have 0 |
| [22:15:00] | iggy: | screwed |
| [22:15:00] | Shibz: | how do I get more inodes? |
| [22:15:00] | Ashlar: | that'll do it.. try rebuilding the fs with the setting for news server |
| [22:16:00] | Shibz: | do I have to do that mkfs thing? |
| [22:16:00] | Ashlar: | you're going to have to reformat |
| [22:16:00] | SarahEmm: | wait.. what? |
| [22:16:00] | iggy: | that's why I said screwed |
| [22:16:00] | SarahEmm: | you only have 1056 inodes total?? |
| [22:16:00] | SarahEmm: | how big is the partition? |
| [22:16:00] | Shibz: | 4gb |
| [22:16:00] | SarahEmm: | *blinks* |
| [22:16:00] | Ashlar: | Shibz: yah.. like -t news.. lemme get the command |
| [22:16:00] | SarahEmm: | err.. did you do something special when creating it? |
| [22:17:00] | SarahEmm: | my box has 4 billion inodes for 100gb |
| [22:17:00] | iggy: | use reiserfs and never run out of inodes again |
| [22:17:00] | Shibz: | knoppmyth installer made it |
| [22:17:00] | Ashlar: | prolly set it up that way to make deletes faster |
| [22:17:00] | SarahEmm: | weird. |
| [22:17:00] | SarahEmm: | 1056 is *WAY* low for anything |
| [22:17:00] | Shibz: | well, it was suposed to be the cache partition |
| [22:17:00] | gnome42: | I have 122K inodes on a 500MB ext3 |
| [22:18:00] | iggy: | I have 0 inodes |
| [22:18:00] | iggy: | total |
| [22:18:00] | Ashlar: | .. /cache should only need very few inodes.. assuming you're not using it for something else |
| [22:18:00] | SarahEmm: | cache partition? |
| [22:19:00] | SarahEmm: | what is /cache? |
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| [22:19:00] | Shibz: | knoppmyth makes a seperate partition for the TV cache stuff |
| [22:19:00] | SarahEmm: | ahh, okay. |
| [22:19:00] | Ashlar: | SarahEmm: knoppmyth sets up partitions for ya.. /cache is the livetv buffer.. so the most it _should_ need is room for 1 file per card for multiple ringbuffers |
| [22:19:00] | iggy: | 4G for the tv cache? seems a little small |
| [22:19:00] | Shibz: | I tried to do the advanced knoppmyth partitioning, but my iso must have been messed up because it wouldn't let me |
| [22:20:00] | SarahEmm: | what else are you using /cache for? |
| [22:20:00] | Shibz: | well, mythtv isn't using it for cache anymore |
| [22:20:00] | Shibz: | so I am making it into my /home |
| [22:20:00] | Ashlar: | ahhh |
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| [22:20:00] | iggy: | at least you only have to more 4G around |
| [22:21:00] | iggy: | *move |
| [22:21:00] | iggy: | I once had a 300G ext3 fs run out of inodes |
| [22:21:00] | iggy: | that was a bad day |
| [22:21:00] | Shibz: | wow |
| [22:21:00] | Ashlar: | I had to reformat my /myth partition because of tiny mame / nes / snes files.. filled up 100% inodes with 2gb of ROMs |
| [22:22:00] | gnome42: | Does anyone have a stable nforce2 board with at least one bttv card in it? |
| [22:22:00] | Shibz: | I do, but I don't use it for watching tv |
| [22:22:00] | Shibz: | just video capture ect |
| [22:23:00] | gnome42: | Shibz: you don't use the tuner card in it? |
| [22:23:00] | Shibz: | no, it isn't compatable with linux |
| [22:23:00] | Shibz: | plus its in the same room as my cable modem and if I split that cable wire, my modem dies on me |
| [22:24:00] | gnome42: | Shibz: oh, ok. |
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| [22:25:00] | Shibz: | what is the purpose of having reserved blocks in ext3? |
| [22:25:00] | Shibz: | is that space that only root can use or something? |
| [22:25:00] | gnome42: | less fragementation I think |
| [22:25:00] | iggy: | so root can always log in or something |
| [22:25:00] | Shibz: | whats a good value for that then? |
| [22:25:00] | gnome42: | scratch that |
| [22:26:00] | gnome42: | -m0 |
| [22:26:00] | Cardoe: | iggy: hey |
| [22:26:00] | Cardoe: | iggy: did ya see the 0.18.1 unmask? |
| [22:26:00] | SarahEmm: | Shibz: so if the entire partition is full, root can still log in to fix it |
| [22:26:00] | gnome42: | if it is just your mythtv file system that is |
| [22:26:00] | Cardoe: | iggy: I had no idea what that user was bitching about in his invalid bug report.. I think maybe a cache run didn't run right or something |
| [22:26:00] | Shibz: | i see |
| [22:26:00] | iggy: | Cardoe: yes, hopefully my computer at the house made it that far today, and I'll be able to test when I get home |
| [22:27:00] | iggy: | Cardoe: no, it was just bad mirror timing |
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| [22:27:00] | Shibz: | mkfs.ext3 -m 1 /dev/hda3 ;will that work? |
| [22:28:00] | gnome42: | mke2fs -j -m1 /dev/hda3 is the one I use and I think is the same as yours |
| [22:29:00] | gnome42: | it will reserve 1% though, that could be a lot |
| [22:30:00] | Cardoe: | iggy: I CVS'd the ebuild and the eclass @ virtually the same time. |
| [22:30:00] | Cardoe: | iggy: literally however long it took for cd ../path repoman ci |
| [22:30:00] | Shibz: | ok, now i have 525k free inodes there |
| [22:30:00] | iggy: | Cardoe: it happens |
| [22:30:00] | Shibz: | thanks |
| [22:31:00] | gnome42: | sure, no problem |
| [22:31:00] | iggy: | Cardoe: or maybe rsync crapped out on him, there's no telling |
| [22:31:00] | Ashlar: | Shdwdrgn mkfs.ext3 -m 1 -T news /dev/hda3 |
| [22:31:00] | iggy: | Cardoe: in any case, he closed it himself, so don't worry about it |
| [22:31:00] | Ashlar: | err Shibz, even |
| [22:31:00] | Ashlar: | (if you wanted a _lot_ of inodes) |
| [22:32:00] | Shibz: | what does the '-T news' part do? |
| [22:32:00] | Beirdo: | man mkfs.ext3 |
| [22:32:00] | Ashlar: | one inode per 4k block |
| [22:32:00] | Beirdo: | read the fucking man pages, people |
| [22:32:00] | kormoc: | but I know all about man, cause I am a man! |
| [22:33:00] | iggy: | Beirdo: I think you've gotten into a little bit of what I've had for the past couple of days |
| [22:33:00] | SarahEmm: | the news one may be excessive for your circumstance tho. |
| [22:33:00] | Beirdo: | iggy: hehe, could be |
| [22:33:00] | Ashlar: | true, it is excessive.. Beirdo's right.. the man page has other options.. you can set that ratio to something more realistic if you want to spend time thinking about what you expect to use the partition for |
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| [22:36:00] | Shibz: | heh that news thing gave me 1million inodes on a 4gb partition |
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| [22:37:00] | CyberKnet: | oops. |
| [22:38:00] | Beirdo: | duh |
| [22:38:00] | Beirdo: | 4GB / 4kB = 1M |
| [22:39:00] | Beirdo: | do the math... |
| [22:40:00] | Ashlar: | heh.. plenty, now, eh? |
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| [22:41:00] | Shibz: | yep |
| [22:42:00] | gnarface: | man |
| [22:42:00] | Beirdo: | soy un perdidor... I'm a luser baby... so why don't you kill me... |
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| [22:42:00] | Beirdo: | the BOFH version |
| [22:42:00] | Shibz: | soy un perdidor, is that spainish? |
| [22:43:00] | Beirdo: | umm, not sure. latin or a derivative of some sorts |
| [22:43:00] | Shibz: | the only spainish I know is "cago en tu leche" |
| [22:43:00] | Beirdo: | cervesa por favor |
| [22:44:00] | CyberKnet: | water-o please-o |
| [22:44:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [22:44:00] | Beirdo: | you don't want water |
| [22:44:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [22:44:00] | Beirdo: | you want beer |
| [22:44:00] | gnarface: | Shibz: turn me into milk? |
| [22:44:00] | iggy: | uno mas margarita |
| [22:44:00] | Ashlar: | donde esta la banyo.. bathroom.. heh |
| [22:44:00] | Beirdo: | better for you than water in Mexico for instance |
| [22:44:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [22:44:00] | Shibz: | cago en tu leche = I sh*t in your milk |
| [22:45:00] | gnarface: | ooh. |
| [22:45:00] | gnarface: | you don't use usb-uirt by any chance do you? |
| [22:45:00] | CyberKnet: | no. |
| [22:45:00] | gnarface: | i was asking Shibz |
| [22:45:00] | CyberKnet: | sorry man. |
| [22:45:00] | CyberKnet: | gnarface: =) |
| [22:45:00] | CyberKnet: | gnarface: I was predicting for you, man =) |
| [22:45:00] | Beirdo: | he shit on your usb-uirt |
| [22:46:00] | gnarface: | i see. |
| [22:46:00] | gnarface: | a shame really. |
| [22:46:00] | gnarface: | it seems to almost work... |
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| [22:46:00] | CyberKnet: | gnarface: it does suck when nobody uses your hardware, yes. :| |
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| [22:55:00] | Shibz: | when I try to import a DVD, i get this. "can not connect to myth transcoding daemon" |
| [22:55:00] | Shibz: | it tells me to press numbers on my controler to start it but nothing happens when I do that |
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| [23:00:00] | AndyCap: | hmm, is there any way to make a snapshot while watching a recording in mythfrontend? |
| [23:00:00] | sunilonln2: | print screen? |
| [23:01:00] | gnarface: | if you're not using an overlay like xv or something to draw the actual video buffer to the screen then you should be able to just capture it with gimp,right? |
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| [23:02:00] | AndyCap: | yeah, but I'm using xv at the moment. was hoping there was a function in mythfrontend. |
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| [23:03:00] | GeckoFiend: | AndyCap NO_XV=1; mythfrontend |
| [23:03:00] | Shibz: | when I try to import a DVD, i get this. "can not connect to myth transcoding daemon", it tells me to press numbers on my controler to start it but nothing happens when I do that |
| [23:04:00] | GeckoFiend: | Shibz it mtd on your path? |
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| [23:05:00] | AndyCap: | GeckoFiend: ok. thanks. |
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| [23:05:00] | AndyCap: | gnarface: you too. :) |
| [23:06:00] | Shibz: | mtd? |
| [23:06:00] | gnarface: | any time. |
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| [23:08:00] | GeckoFiend: | Shibz mtd == "myth transcoding daemon"... mtd is what the frontend connects to for ripping dvds |
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| [23:09:00] | Shibz: | oh |
| [23:10:00] | Shibz: | I started mtd from ssh and now it has a new message |
| [23:10:00] | Shibz: | it says that it is waiting for dvd |
| [23:10:00] | Shibz: | but I already have a dvd in the drive |
| [23:10:00] | Shibz: | I bet there is a config file i need to edit? |
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| [23:14:00] | Beirdo: | or another FM to R? :) |
| [23:14:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:15:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
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| [23:15:00] | CyberKnet: | wouldn't that be "or maybe just another FMTR?" =P |
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| [23:15:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, that's it |
| [23:16:00] | CyberKnet: | poor Shibz |
| [23:16:00] | CyberKnet: | Shibz is trying. |
| [23:16:00] | CyberKnet: | more than most, I guess. |
| [23:16:00] | Beirdo: | I know ;) |
| [23:16:00] | ** CyberKnet consoles shibz some ** | |
| [23:16:00] | Beirdo: | NP: Barenaked Ladies – Alcohol |
| [23:17:00] | Beirdo: | "I love you more... than I did the week before... I discovered alcohol" |
| [23:17:00] | CyberKnet: | hah |
| [23:17:00] | CyberKnet: | that's priceless |
| [23:17:00] | Beirdo: | BNL rule |
| [23:17:00] | Beirdo: | you really should check them out if you've never heard their stuff |
| [23:18:00] | CyberKnet: | I sure have |
| [23:18:00] | CyberKnet: | I can hide out under there... |
| [23:18:00] | CyberKnet: | heh |
| [23:18:00] | Beirdo: | and Jason Priestly (another Canadian) helped them get known in the USA |
| [23:19:00] | Beirdo: | it shows you how much our accent sounds like Hollywood... |
| [23:19:00] | Beirdo: | they cast him in a lead role in 90210, and he didn't have to change his accent to fit in |
| [23:19:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:20:00] | Shibz: | argh |
| [23:20:00] | Beirdo: | that too |
| [23:20:00] | Beirdo: | shiver me timbers! |
| [23:20:00] | Shibz: | heh |
| [23:20:00] | Shibz: | i cant get it to detect the dvd |
| [23:20:00] | ** Beirdo pirates some booty. ** | |
| [23:20:00] | Shibz: | i know the drive is working, i just burned a dvd on it last night |
| [23:21:00] | Beirdo: | it might be a /dev/dvd vs /dev/hda vs /dev/scd issue maybe |
| [23:21:00] | Beirdo: | I don't know how mtd uses it |
| [23:21:00] | GeckoFiend: | it's in the darn settings |
| [23:21:00] | CyberKnet: | bbl folks |
| [23:22:00] | Beirdo: | ah. |
| [23:22:00] | Beirdo: | well, I don't use mtd (don't rip DVDs) so I didn't know |
| [23:22:00] | Beirdo: | but that would be sensible |
| [23:22:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [23:22:00] | Ashlar: | sensible.. hence the last place anybody would look ;) |
| [23:22:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:23:00] | Shibz: | brb |
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| [23:23:00] | GeckoFiend: | utilies / setup -> setup -> media settings -> dvd settings – > general settings .... "Location of DVD device" |
| [23:24:00] | Beirdo: | w00t |
| [23:24:00] | GeckoFiend: | hmmmm: bet date="2005-05–22" expires="2005-05–23"> |
| [23:24:00] | GeckoFiend: | <program title="Robot Chicken"> |
| [23:24:00] | GeckoFiend: | <episode_id>EP7259620014</episode_id> |
| [23:24:00] | GeckoFiend: | <network>Cartoon Network</network> |
| [23:24:00] | GeckoFiend: | <showing> |
| [23:24:00] | GeckoFiend: | <date>2005-05–22</date> |
| [23:24:00] | GeckoFiend: | <time>12:00:00</time> |
| [23:24:00] | GeckoFiend: | </showing> |
| [23:25:00] | GeckoFiend: | <review>If you have yet to check out this bizarre stop-motion animation sketch comedy show (co-created by actor Seth Green), you're missing out. Its speed may induce seizures, but at least you'll seize while laughing. The world's most famous monkey busts loose in tonight's episode with "Ding Dong, Donkey Kong," and Hollywood gossip gets the Pat O'Brien treatment.</review> |
| [23:25:00] | GeckoFiend: | </program> |
| [23:25:00] | GeckoFiend: | </bet> |
| [23:25:00] | GeckoFiend: | anyone ever watched that? |
| [23:25:00] | kormoc: | yuppies |
| [23:25:00] | kormoc: | robot chicken rocks |
| [23:25:00] | kormoc: | but you didn't have to flood it to ask :P |
| [23:25:00] | jams: | robot chicken does't rock |
| [23:25:00] | jams: | it's just odd |
| [23:25:00] | kormoc: | it's hallarious |
| [23:26:00] | Beirdo: | hilarious maybe? |
| [23:26:00] | Ashlar: | twisted, but funny |
| [23:26:00] | Beirdo: | never watched it |
| [23:26:00] | kormoc: | yeah hilarious |
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| [23:33:00] | simon_c: | Hi All. I've a couple of mythTV problems I'm trying to get sorted. New to mythTV, but know my way around linux. |
| [23:33:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:33:00] | Shibz: | ok, the dvd device was set to /dev/dvd |
| [23:34:00] | simon_c: | I've a P4 2.4ghz, but when I try watching live TV, it's very jerky. My hardware is a winfast PVR card, so it's using the v4linux stuff. |
| [23:34:00] | simon_c: | and I can't figure out how to change channel on the card from myth either. |
| [23:35:00] | simon_c: | I'm running myth 0.18–9 rpms on suse9.3 Any pointers would be great. |
| [23:35:00] | SarahEmm: | simon_c: first htings to check: are you using XV for video output, and is your hard drive set with DMA on? |
| [23:35:00] | SarahEmm: | those are the leading causes of jerkyness :) |
| [23:36:00] | simon_c: | My hard disk is SATA, so hdparm doesn't seem to want to do anything to change DMA mode on it. |
| [23:36:00] | SarahEmm: | oh... |
| [23:36:00] | simon_c: | I'll check XV. Thanks. |
| [23:36:00] | SarahEmm: | and XV? |
| [23:36:00] | SarahEmm: | *nods* |
| [23:36:00] | SarahEmm: | what resolution are you capturing at, too? |
| [23:37:00] | simon_c: | checking. |
| [23:38:00] | Ashlar: | and you'll want to run mythfrontend as suid root |
| [23:38:00] | GeckoFiend: | Ashlar no need with that CPU |
| [23:39:00] | Ashlar: | true, but it sped up the initial pause on watching a recording.. dunno why, but tis cool :) |
| [23:39:00] | Shibz: | I get /dev/dvd is not a valid block device when I try to mount |
| [23:40:00] | Shibz: | what would that mean? |
| [23:41:00] | SarahEmm: | likely your /dev/dvd symlink is pointing wrong |
| [23:41:00] | GreyFoxx: | sounds like /dev/dvd doesn't point to the proper device |
| [23:41:00] | Shibz: | it is pointing to /dev/hdd |
| [23:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | and is /dev/hdd the dvd ? Secondary slave device ? |
| [23:42:00] | Shibz: | hmmm, it should be secondary master |
| [23:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | change the link to point to hdc |
| [23:42:00] | Shibz: | but i probably have the jumper messed up |
| [23:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | you chould check dmesg |
| [23:43:00] | simon_c: | SarahEmmsolution is 480x480. And I'm not sure where the XV bit is set |
| [23:43:00] | simon_c: | not sure how to change the channel either. :-/ |
| [23:43:00] | SarahEmm: | simon_c: up/down arrows change channel |
| [23:44:00] | SarahEmm: | run 'xvinfo' to see if you have xv |
| [23:44:00] | SarahEmm: | it's more than just a 'bit' |
| [23:44:00] | Shibz: | to change where a symlink is pointing i just delete it and make a new one? |
| [23:44:00] | simon_c: | 'k. thanks. I'll try that. |
| [23:45:00] | GreyFoxx: | Shibz: yes |
| [23:46:00] | Shibz: | ok, i'll try that |
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| [23:47:00] | Cardoe: | freaking hell |
| [23:47:00] | ** Cardoe has to drive to the office 30 min there and back ** | |
| [23:47:00] | Cardoe: | To hit the fucking "y" on the keyboard. |
| [23:47:00] | Cardoe: | that's it. |
| [23:47:00] | j-rod: | you need an ip kvm |
| [23:47:00] | simon_c: | xvinfo reports loads of bumff. So probably. |
| [23:48:00] | j-rod: | they're swell, we have several in our office now. :) |
| [23:48:00] | simon_c: | still can't get the chanels to change, and I'm (today) trying to read stuff from the svideo input, but the only settings the channel editor will take is arial. |
| [23:48:00] | simon_c: | Hummm. |
| [23:50:00] | Ashlar: | uhh.. simon_c: if you're getting input via s-video, how are you changing the channel? ir transmitter? serial cable? |
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| [23:50:00] | SarahEmm: | Cardoe: you need one of those drinking birds. :) |
| [23:50:00] | simon_c: | Ashlar: Just reading the docs again. When I set it up, I only setup the arial as a source, now I'm using svideo,I guess I need to add a new source before I add a new channel. |
| [23:50:00] | simon_c: | Thanks. |
| [23:51:00] | xxnor: | Ive been running ptune-ui for som hour now, i get very very grainy black and white picture, any ideas? |
| [23:51:00] | Cardoe: | SarahEmm: seriously. |
| [23:51:00] | Cardoe: | About to kill over this issue |
| [23:51:00] | Ashlar: | simon_c: yah.. mythfilldatabase will grab the channels for the source for ya |
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| [23:55:00] | simon_c: | But I'm grabbing from my video, so there's no channel info, |
| [23:55:00] | simon_c: | but, I seem to have got that bit sorted. |
| [23:55:00] | simon_c: | And, capturing from svideo seems to be without jittering too. |
| [23:55:00] | simon_c: | strange. |
| [23:56:00] | simon_c: | Next problem :-) |
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| [23:56:00] | simon_c: | the sound is out of sync. |
| [23:56:00] | simon_c: | :-( |
| [23:57:00] | SarahEmm: | rtfm :) |
| [23:57:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:57:00] | Beirdo: | you beat me to it |
| [23:57:00] | SarahEmm: | you need to make sure you're not getting sound played directly from the sound card, but instead getting the played back sound |
| [23:57:00] | simon_c: | :-) |
| [23:57:00] | SarahEmm: | it's in the fine manual :) |
| [23:57:00] | SarahEmm: | Beirdo: i need to set up a macro :) |
| [23:57:00] | SarahEmm: | ALT-R = RTFM |
| [23:57:00] | SarahEmm: | i seem to say it about 20 times a day ;) |
| [23:57:00] | Shibz: | ok, i got the /mnt/dvd thing working good now, but I cant figure it out still |
| [23:57:00] | Beirdo: | my boss has an RTFM sign that used to be on his office wall |
| [23:58:00] | Shibz: | I am on the screen where I pick what titles I want to rip, but I can't figure out how to start it |
| [23:58:00] | simon_c: | the manual does seem very good at buid/compile the components etc. It does seem a little short on configuring the application. |
| [23:58:00] | simon_c: | Just my 2p worth. |
| [23:58:00] | ** simon_c is rtfming. ** | |
| [23:58:00] | SarahEmm: | simon_c: it *is* in there, the sync issue |
| [23:58:00] | SarahEmm: | because it's a very common issue |
| [23:58:00] | Shibz: | libdvdread: Invalid title IFO (VTS_06_0.IFO). |
| [23:58:00] | Shibz: | dvdprobe.o: Can't get video transport for track 11 |
| [23:58:00] | Shibz: | dvdprobe.o: You have a title on your dvd in a format myth doesn't understand. |
| [23:58:00] | Shibz: | dvdprobe.o: Either that, or you haven't installed the dvdinput table. |
| [23:58:00] | Shibz: | dvdprobe.o: You probably want to report this to a mailing list or something: |
| [23:58:00] | SarahEmm: | yikes |
| [23:58:00] | SarahEmm: | please don't flood :) |
| [23:59:00] | Shibz: | sry |
| [23:59:00] | SarahEmm: | did you install the dvdinput table? |
| [23:59:00] | Shibz: | that is from that mtd thing |
| [23:59:00] | Shibz: | umm, what dvdinput table lol |
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| [23:59:00] | SarahEmm: | ... |
| [23:59:00] | SarahEmm: | i won't say it, because i don't know for sure if it's in the FM... |
| [23:59:00] | SarahEmm: | but you HAVE R'd T FM right? |
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