| Tuesday, May 17th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | ** j-rod cackles ** | |
| [00:00:00] | ** kormoc quacks. ** | |
| [00:00:00] | Esotericisms: | http://pastebin.ca/11937 |
| [00:01:00] | bobc: | doesn't detect the tuner |
| [00:01:00] | j-rod: | yeah, first up, wrong tveeprom is loading |
| [00:01:00] | j-rod: | tveeprom: tuner = <unknown> (idx = 99, type = 0) |
| [00:01:00] | Esotericisms: | then I screwed up the system |
| [00:01:00] | j-rod: | do you have a line "alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv" in there? |
| [00:01:00] | j-rod: | in modprobe.conf? |
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| [00:02:00] | bobc: | Esotericisms: no, I get that with 0.2.0rc3j too, but not with 0.3.4 |
| [00:02:00] | Esotericisms: | alright, I am confused now |
| [00:02:00] | bobc: | listen to j-rod |
| [00:03:00] | Esotericisms: | I am listening to him ... where in your docs did it say to add that line? |
| [00:03:00] | licensetocode: | probably a stupid question: how do I store recorded television as a 'video'? |
| [00:03:00] | CygnusX1_: | Any of you that transcode for compression, what do you set your MP3 quality on (the slider)? |
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| [00:03:00] | j-rod: | I said on this irc channel just a while ago to add that alias line |
| [00:03:00] | j-rod: | its missing from my doc |
| [00:03:00] | CygnusX1_: | j-rod, Justin? |
| [00:03:00] | Beirdo: | not for long, I bet :) |
| [00:04:00] | j-rod: | Justin? |
| [00:04:00] | j-rod: | Not me. |
| [00:04:00] | Stonekeeper: | hi. Does anyone know how to get MythTV working with sky satellite tv in the UK? Is the only option a IR transmitter? |
| [00:04:00] | twitchmax: | anyone else have mythtv fail compiling at libmythsoundtouch on debian/amd64? |
| [00:04:00] | CygnusX1_: | Roger ;-) |
| [00:04:00] | j-rod: | j-rod == Jarod |
| [00:04:00] | Esotericisms: | ok adding line |
| [00:05:00] | CygnusX1_: | Jarod, sorry, that is what I meant. Fedora Myth hero! ;-) |
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| [00:05:00] | jemarcks: | howdy yall! |
| [00:06:00] | jemarcks: | j-rod, hi |
| [00:06:00] | j-rod: | hola |
| [00:06:00] | jemarcks: | j-rod, i tried installing nuvexport and something is broken with a perl module HiRes.pm. |
| [00:07:00] | Esotericisms: | j-rod, the at-testing isn't even a 3.x ivtv |
| [00:08:00] | Esotericisms: | j-rod, I am about ready to just reinstall from scratch ... |
| [00:08:00] | CygnusX1_: | Nobody transcodes their recordings? |
| [00:08:00] | bobc: | Esotericisms: so what happened when you added the line to modprobe.conf? |
| [00:09:00] | licensetocode: | CygnusX1_: transcoding just strips the commercials right? |
| [00:09:00] | bobc: | CygnusX1_: I just don't remember. |
| [00:09:00] | jemarcks: | cygnusx1_, im learning how to burn my recordings to a DVD. I am trying to get nuvexport to work |
| [00:09:00] | kormoc: | licensetocode, transcoding can compress the recording after it's recorded |
| [00:09:00] | jemarcks: | transcoding can change the bit rate too and thus the file size |
| [00:09:00] | kormoc: | but I just record it compressed. |
| [00:10:00] | Esotericisms: | j-rod, I thought you said my other problem was that I didn't have a 3.x ivtv |
| [00:10:00] | licensetocode: | kormoc: does the file remain stored in the 'recordings' directory? |
| [00:10:00] | Beirdo: | figuring ivtv is at 0.3.x, I'm not surprised you don't have 3.x, Esotericisms |
| [00:11:00] | jemarcks: | <-- is runing ivtv 3.4a |
| [00:11:00] | CygnusX1_: | licensetocode, It can just strip the commercials...but, it can also compress the video |
| [00:11:00] | Beirdo: | no you aren't |
| [00:11:00] | bobc: | Esotericisms: I think that was something I said |
| [00:11:00] | kormoc: | licensetocode, I donno, you see, I just change the bitrate of the actual recording, so it doesn't need to process the same file twice. |
| [00:11:00] | Beirdo: | you are runnin 0.3.4a |
| [00:11:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [00:11:00] | ** Beirdo is being pedantic ** | |
| [00:11:00] | bobc: | 0.2.0rc3j is fine – have you tried with the line added? |
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| [00:12:00] | licensetocode: | I see. I'm looking for a way to move files from the 'recording' directory to the 'video' directory. |
| [00:12:00] | licensetocode: | more importantly from the 'recorded tv' menu to the 'videos' menu. |
| [00:12:00] | licensetocode: | does mythtv not already have an option for this? |
| [00:12:00] | CygnusX1_: | jemarcks, I have only play with nuvexport a bit. The only thing I was really wanting to save, however, was Star Trek. I may now just go out and buy the DVDs with fruitless hope that a new Trek that rivals TNG will be released in a couple of years. |
| [00:12:00] | Esotericisms: | in mythtvsetup I need to use 'mpeg2 (pvr250 350 etc) with /dev/video0 and tuner0 right? |
| [00:12:00] | j-rod: | Esotericisms, I see ivtv 0.3.x in at-testing... |
| [00:12:00] | j-rod: | did you apt-get update after changing your sources.list? |
| [00:13:00] | Esotericisms: | yeah |
| [00:13:00] | j-rod: | jemarcks, no clue on the nuvexport thing |
| [00:13:00] | Esotericisms: | my system is all jacked to high heaven I guess |
| [00:13:00] | j-rod: | apt-cache policy ivtv |
| [00:14:00] | CygnusX1_: | licensetocode, and, the commercial detection has been going nutty on me too. Worked great the first week...now, it is missing them left and right, or worse, picking up the start but not the end. I can't let it autohack my shows. |
| [00:14:00] | j-rod: | on my system returns "Candidate: 1:0.3.4p-89.rhfc3.at" |
| [00:14:00] | licensetocode: | cygnusX1_: same here. I don't even bother letting it try to strip commercials. |
| [00:14:00] | bobc: | Esotericisms: you're right about the mythtvsetup for PVR150 |
| [00:15:00] | bobc: | someone important like j-rod or geckofiend should probably update the setup screen to show PVR150/250/350/500 |
| [00:16:00] | Esotericisms: | ok |
| [00:16:00] | Esotericisms: | mine says that for candidate too ... |
| [00:16:00] | Esotericisms: | is there a special option I need to use to get it? |
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| [00:17:00] | j-rod: | if that's what it says for candidate, then just 'apt-get install ivtv ivtv-kmdl-`uname -r`' |
| [00:17:00] | Esotericisms: | alright I will try ... |
| [00:17:00] | Esotericisms: | mythfrontend, when I do watch tv just freezes on me |
| [00:17:00] | Esotericisms: | even with that alias line added in |
| [00:19:00] | bobc: | did it detect the tuner properly? |
| [00:19:00] | bobc: | you could try modprobe ivtv tuner=50 to see if it works |
| [00:19:00] | j-rod: | until you have ivtv 0.3.x installed and you've reloaded all modules, don't try myth yet |
| [00:19:00] | Esotericisms: | I did a 'depmod -ae' then 'modprobe ivtv' |
| [00:19:00] | Esotericisms: | installing 0.3.x |
| [00:20:00] | j-rod: | but 0.2.x was already loaded, was it not? |
| [00:20:00] | Esotericisms: | yeah ... I just finished installing ivtv 0.3.x |
| [00:20:00] | Esotericisms: | I just did a 'depmod -ae' |
| [00:20:00] | Esotericisms: | now for the modprobe ivtv |
| [00:20:00] | j-rod: | restart |
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| [00:20:00] | Beirdo: | did you rmmod the currently loaded ones? |
| [00:21:00] | j-rod: | or do that |
| [00:21:00] | Esotericisms: | restart is probably best at this point |
| [00:21:00] | Esotericisms: | oh well ... |
| [00:21:00] | Beirdo: | reboot's easiest |
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| [00:22:00] | Esotericisms: | http://pastebin.ca/11940 |
| [00:22:00] | Esotericisms: | that is what I have in my modprobe.conf |
| [00:22:00] | smoke_: | hey guys for some reason when i watch tv from the frontend the backend says error reading: /dev/v4l/video0 reapeatedly .. how can i test to see if this device is working properly? |
| [00:23:00] | Esotericisms: | what capture card do you have? |
| [00:24:00] | Esotericisms: | j-rod, things still not working |
| [00:24:00] | Esotericisms: | I am getting my latest dmesg |
| [00:24:00] | smoke_: | umm ih ave pvr250 |
| [00:24:00] | smoke_: | im using ivtv |
| [00:25:00] | Esotericisms: | 'cat /dev/video0 > testfile.mpg' then playback with mplayer (that will tell you if the device is reading your tv input) |
| [00:26:00] | Esotericisms: | j-rod, I take that back my ivtv module didn't even load ... loading it now |
| [00:27:00] | Esotericisms: | well it works, except mythfrontend froze when I changed channels |
| [00:28:00] | Esotericisms: | "Waiting too long for decoder to pause" |
| [00:28:00] | j-rod: | get that dmesg dump, could still be something awry there |
| [00:28:00] | j-rod: | bobc, description field updated in CVS now |
| [00:28:00] | j-rod: | "MPEG-2 Encoder card (PVR-x50, PVR-500)" |
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| [00:29:00] | Esotericisms: | http://pastebin.ca/11942 |
| [00:30:00] | j-rod: | most of that looks good |
| [00:30:00] | Esotericisms: | yeah it isn't giving me an audio error yet ... |
| [00:30:00] | j-rod: | however, I'd go in and set your recording profiles to 720x480 for the moment |
| [00:31:00] | j-rod: | cx25840: decoder set size 480x480 (from 720x480) -> scale 524288x65536, filter 0 |
| [00:31:00] | j-rod: | not sure what the latest on scaling with the 150 and 500 is |
| [00:31:00] | Esotericisms: | recording profiles located in the mythfrontend? |
| [00:31:00] | j-rod: | I'm about 500 messages behind on the ivtv list.... |
| [00:31:00] | bobc: | thanks j-rod! I'm sure that will save a few questions to the list |
| [00:31:00] | j-rod: | yeah |
| [00:31:00] | j-rod: | bobc, no doubt — hopefully, the x isn't too confusing. :-) |
| [00:32:00] | j-rod: | "I have a PVR-250, is that like a PVR-x50?" |
| [00:32:00] | Esotericisms: | width: 720, height: 480??? |
| [00:32:00] | j-rod: | yeah |
| [00:32:00] | j-rod: | bbiab |
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| [00:33:00] | smoke_: | hrmmm |
| [00:33:00] | smoke_: | what u mean playback with mplayer? |
| [00:33:00] | Esotericisms: | mplayer testfile.mpg |
| [00:33:00] | smoke_: | like... stream it from lcoalhost? |
| [00:33:00] | smoke_: | ah k |
| [00:33:00] | smoke_: | while its doing cat /dev/video0 > mpg? |
| [00:33:00] | Esotericisms: | no |
| [00:34:00] | Esotericisms: | control-c it after you let it run for like 15 seconds |
| [00:34:00] | smoke_: | k |
| [00:34:00] | smoke_: | what should it do? |
| [00:34:00] | smoke_: | nothing? |
| [00:34:00] | smoke_: | or display it? |
| [00:34:00] | smoke_: | sorry ill find out |
| [00:34:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm. I hate feeling like shite |
| [00:34:00] | Esotericisms: | where is the frontend located? |
| [00:34:00] | smoke_: | cuz when i connect to the frontend, and watch tv, it keeps repeating, read: Input/output error |
| [00:35:00] | smoke_: | and error reading: /dev/v4l/video0 |
| [00:35:00] | Stonekeeper: | dumb question: Is it an irda transmitter i need for changing chanells on a sky satelite TV box? |
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| [00:38:00] | ATux: | When I go through adding a card, it is not added to the list :( |
| [00:38:00] | ATux: | What is going on? |
| [00:39:00] | bobc: | are you hitting enter or esc? |
| [00:39:00] | john__: | stonekeeper why dont u put in a DVB-S card it will give u great quality pics albeit only FTA channels |
| [00:39:00] | smoke_: | if u dont get ur channel list from zap2it, or whatever, u cant even display the tv at all? |
| [00:40:00] | Esotericisms: | bobc or j-rod: http://pastebin.ca/11943 ( when I start to watch tv the image pauses and then disappears ) |
| [00:40:00] | Esotericisms: | brb in 10 minutes or so ... dinner |
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| [00:40:00] | ATux: | bobc: enter |
| [00:41:00] | ATux: | I am also using KnoppMyth |
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| [00:47:00] | lane: | Evening all. I'm just looking for a sanity check. I'm trying to make a DVD from some recordings, and not having much luck. The following command should give me a plain ol' video mpg, playable with mplayer, right? |
| [00:47:00] | lane: | jpeg2yuv -n 50 -I p -f 29.97 -j menu.jpg | mpeg2enc -n n -f 8 -o menu.m2v |
| [00:47:00] | lane: | I only ask because the result menu.m2v, is nothing but black frames |
| [00:47:00] | lane: | and I didn't think that was right :) |
| [00:48:00] | braniff: | why not use nuvexport ? |
| [00:48:00] | lane: | I do use nuvexport to cut the commercials |
| [00:48:00] | lane: | but I have a pvr250 |
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| [00:48:00] | lane: | so I don't want to reencode; plus, I want a menu |
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| [00:52:00] | Esotericisms: | j-rod you around? |
| [00:53:00] | j-rod: | for a bit |
| [00:53:00] | Esotericisms: | http://pastebin.ca/11943 |
| [00:53:00] | Esotericisms: | that is what mythfrontend is returning when I try to watch tv |
| [00:54:00] | j-rod: | dunno what the hell that is |
| [00:54:00] | Esotericisms: | damn ... that is no good :/ |
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| [00:55:00] | j-rod: | fire up ptune-ui.pl (its in /usr/lib/ivtv, iirc) |
| [00:55:00] | j-rod: | then 'mplayer /dev/video0' |
| [00:55:00] | j-rod: | see if you can change channels that way |
| [00:56:00] | Esotericisms: | nah it happens when I just watch tv ... the image pauses and then exits back the menu |
| [00:57:00] | Esotericisms: | anyone else have issues with mythfrontend not being able to schedule recordings? |
| [00:57:00] | j-rod: | huh |
| [00:58:00] | Esotericisms: | when I click on "watch tv" it takes about 5 seconds for the display come up for the channel, then after about 1 second it freezes and after about 10 seconds it exits back to the main menu |
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| [00:59:00] | Esotericisms: | now I can't even schedule programs for recording :/ |
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| [01:00:00] | j-rod: | hm... |
| [01:00:00] | Beirdo: | pixmap generation's still fubar |
| [01:00:00] | j-rod: | on a whim, try restarting mythbackend |
| [01:00:00] | Esotericisms: | just kill -9 and restart? |
| [01:00:00] | lane: | Beirdo: do you have a minute for an nuvexport mpeg2->mpeg2 question? |
| [01:00:00] | j-rod: | I wonder if things aren't in a goofy state, because the backend was running before ivtv was loaded |
| [01:00:00] | j-rod: | /sbin/service mythbackend restart |
| [01:00:00] | Beirdo: | maybe |
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| [01:01:00] | Esotericisms: | guess I have to be root to do that :/ |
| [01:01:00] | Esotericisms: | :) |
| [01:01:00] | Esotericisms: | ok restarted ... going to try again |
| [01:01:00] | CygnusX1_: | Anyone else having post-Trek depression? |
| [01:02:00] | Beirdo: | hell no, I haven't even watched the last 6 episodes or so yet |
| [01:02:00] | lane: | same here, I'm rationing the remaining episodes |
| [01:03:00] | Beirdo: | lane: if you don't ask the question, there's no way I can answer it |
| [01:03:00] | CygnusX1_: | All I have left is DS9. I think I stopped watching it half way through. |
| [01:03:00] | Esotericisms: | nope .. |
| [01:03:00] | smoke_: | if i do mplayer /dev/v4l/video0 or whatever... it should technically display my cable? |
| [01:03:00] | smoke_: | what i have plugged in? |
| [01:03:00] | Esotericisms: | I have tried scheduling from mythweb and from the mythfrontend |
| [01:03:00] | lane: | I have nuvexport working fine for mpeg2->mpeg2, |
| [01:04:00] | smoke_: | i dont even need the myth stuff to even display the cable? |
| [01:04:00] | lane: | but if I install xvfb it hangs |
| [01:04:00] | smoke_: | the myth stuff just records? |
| [01:04:00] | lane: | I'm looking for a way to not have avidemux pop up |
| [01:04:00] | Beirdo: | then you need Xvfb |
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| [01:05:00] | Beirdo: | make sure you aren't firewalling port 6013 |
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| [01:05:00] | lane: | checking now... |
| [01:05:00] | Beirdo: | AFAIK, I set Xvfb to run on :13.0 |
| [01:05:00] | Beirdo: | which is port 6013 if I remember right |
| [01:06:00] | Esotericisms: | Beirdo, I am having issues with getting programs scheduled ... it isn't working |
| [01:06:00] | lane: | I didn't realize I needed to configure it. I just installed xorg-x11-Xvfb |
| [01:06:00] | Beirdo: | if it uses TCP of course |
| [01:06:00] | Beirdo: | you don't really need to configure it |
| [01:06:00] | Beirdo: | Esotericisms: dunno |
| [01:07:00] | Esotericisms: | damnit ... one problem after another ... |
| [01:08:00] | Esotericisms: | how do I get ivtv to load on system start? |
| [01:09:00] | Beirdo: | make sure to have your aliases correct |
| [01:09:00] | Beirdo: | then it should autoload as soon as something tries to use it |
| [01:09:00] | Beirdo: | same as any other modules |
| [01:10:00] | ** j-rod loves his postfix ** | |
| [01:10:00] | Esotericisms: | everything is in there and it works fine when I do 'modprobe ivtv' just seems not to work when I restart :/ |
| [01:10:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: postfix does rule, doesn't it? |
| [01:10:00] | Beirdo: | Esotericisms: until you start mythbackend, it won't load |
| [01:10:00] | Esotericisms: | well if anyone can help with my issue of schedule recordings not working I would appreciate it |
| [01:10:00] | Beirdo: | and make sure you have ALL the aliases |
| [01:10:00] | Esotericisms: | I should only need 3 |
| [01:10:00] | Beirdo: | alias char-major-81 videodev |
| [01:11:00] | Esotericisms: | yes |
| [01:11:00] | Esotericisms: | 81–0 ivtv – yes |
| [01:11:00] | Esotericisms: | and |
| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | alias char-major-81–0 ivtv |
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| [01:11:00] | Esotericisms: | yup |
| [01:11:00] | Esotericisms: | and alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv |
| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | alias msp3400 msp3400-ivtv |
| [01:11:00] | Esotericisms: | :/ |
| [01:11:00] | Esotericisms: | for a pvr150? |
| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | I need that in FC1, dunno if it's needed for PVR150 |
| [01:12:00] | Esotericisms: | k |
| [01:12:00] | Beirdo: | of course, you are likely using udev, right? |
| [01:12:00] | Esotericisms: | udev? |
| [01:12:00] | Esotericisms: | guess not ... |
| [01:12:00] | lane: | Beido: yeah, iptables is stopped, so that's not it |
| [01:12:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:12:00] | Beirdo: | lane: dunno then |
| [01:13:00] | lane: | Beirdo: thanks for the help |
| [01:13:00] | Beirdo: | and are you sure it's hanging? |
| [01:13:00] | Esotericisms: | hey Beirdo, |
| [01:13:00] | Esotericisms: | the copy didn't work ... just sec |
| [01:13:00] | Beirdo: | i.e. you waited the normal amount of time for the indexing, ext? |
| [01:13:00] | Esotericisms: | Beirdo, http://pastebin.ca/11943 <-- ever seen anything like that before? |
| [01:14:00] | Beirdo: | Hmm, dunno |
| [01:14:00] | Beirdo: | you might want to do a full powercycle |
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| [01:14:00] | lane: | Beirdo: originally it was. It would get to "Indexing the file with avidemux2" and stay there, with the .idx file getting to 60K and then not getting any bigger |
| [01:14:00] | Beirdo: | in case the card got wedged, turn it RIGHT off. |
| [01:15:00] | cortezdapimp: | anyone get a stealing a buffer message? |
| [01:15:00] | lane: | Beirdo: now it seems to get farther, sort of |
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| [01:15:00] | Beirdo: | lane: I dunno, you could edit the scripts to tell it not to redirect to /dev/null, etc |
| [01:15:00] | braniff: | mythtvsetup gives: "mythtv: could not connect to socket / mythtv: No such file or directory" |
| [01:15:00] | Beirdo: | the user who's running nuvexport MUST have write access to the recording dir, lane |
| [01:15:00] | lane: | Beirdo: good call |
| [01:16:00] | Beirdo: | that could be part of the problem |
| [01:16:00] | lane: | Beirdo: Yes, user has permissions. |
| [01:16:00] | lane: | so that wasn't it |
| [01:16:00] | lane: | Now it gets to "Cutting out commercials with avidemux2" then errors out. But the strange thing is that no .idx file gets created |
| [01:16:00] | Beirdo: | OK. worth checking |
| [01:16:00] | Beirdo: | the .idx goes in the recording dir |
| [01:17:00] | Beirdo: | with the original recording |
| [01:17:00] | lane: | yes, that's where I'm looking |
| [01:17:00] | Beirdo: | and it gets deleted when it's done cutting (even on error) |
| [01:17:00] | lane: | with no xvfb, I get a 2 MB idx file |
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| [01:18:00] | Beirdo: | dunno |
| [01:18:00] | Beirdo: | check if that version of Xvfb needs funky extra commandline stuff |
| [01:18:00] | Beirdo: | all my testing is with XFree86 Xvfb, not xorg |
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| [01:18:00] | lane: | sure |
| [01:18:00] | Beirdo: | they may have changed something |
| [01:19:00] | Esotericisms: | arg ... |
| [01:19:00] | Esotericisms: | full restart didn't fix the issue with "scheduling programs" not working |
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| [01:20:00] | lane: | Beirdo: I took out the /dev/null. Now I'm getting something more useful. "(avidemux2:14961): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:" |
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| [01:22:00] | Beirdo: | hmm |
| [01:22:00] | Beirdo: | OK, that's good to hear |
| [01:22:00] | Beirdo: | man Xvfb |
| [01:23:00] | Beirdo: | make sure their expected command line isn't way different from what I used |
| [01:24:00] | Beirdo: | ${XVFB} :13 -screen 0 640x480x8 |
| [01:24:00] | Beirdo: | that's what I have now |
| [01:24:00] | lane: | checking.. |
| [01:25:00] | Beirdo: | it is saying it's running in Xvfb mode, right? |
| [01:25:00] | lane: | yes |
| [01:25:00] | Beirdo: | OK :) |
| [01:25:00] | lane: | yeah, the examples look about the same |
| [01:26:00] | lane: | Xvfb :1 -screen 0 1600x1200x32 |
| [01:26:00] | lane: | Xvfb :1 -screen 1 1600x1200x16 |
| [01:26:00] | Beirdo: | well, remove the /dev/nulls on the XVFB line, I guess |
| [01:26:00] | Beirdo: | see if it's throwing errors |
| [01:27:00] | Beirdo: | also make sure /bin/sh is actually bash |
| [01:27:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [01:27:00] | lane: | got some errors now |
| [01:27:00] | lane: | _XSERVTransSocketINETCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed |
| [01:27:00] | Beirdo: | I should code it as /bin/bash or something |
| [01:27:00] | Beirdo: | OK |
| [01:28:00] | Beirdo: | netstat -ta |
| [01:28:00] | lane: | _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running |
| [01:28:00] | Beirdo: | make sure nothing's using TCP 6013 already |
| [01:28:00] | lane: | yes, there is |
| [01:28:00] | Beirdo: | netstat -tap |
| [01:28:00] | Beirdo: | what is it? :) |
| [01:28:00] | Beirdo: | that should give the process |
| [01:28:00] | lane: | tcp 0 0 myth:6013 *:* LISTEN - |
| [01:29:00] | Beirdo: | umm |
| [01:29:00] | Esotericisms: | well I am having only two more issues ... can't schedule programs and 'watch tv' freezes and then exits back to the main menu |
| [01:29:00] | Beirdo: | that's not -tap |
| [01:29:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [01:29:00] | Beirdo: | is it? |
| [01:29:00] | lane: | yes |
| [01:29:00] | Beirdo: | damn, it is |
| [01:29:00] | lane: | - is listed in the process field |
| [01:29:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm, is an Xvfb still running? |
| [01:29:00] | lane: | maybe I should reboot |
| [01:29:00] | lane: | it might be |
| [01:29:00] | Beirdo: | ps auxww | grep Xvfb |
| [01:30:00] | lane: | nope |
| [01:30:00] | Beirdo: | tcp 0 0 *:6013 *:* LISTEN 14353/Xvfb |
| [01:30:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:30:00] | Beirdo: | I have one still running |
| [01:30:00] | Esotericisms: | maybe there is something wrong with my mysql server :/ |
| [01:30:00] | Beirdo: | lane: a reboot would catch whatever's keeping that open, but lsof should find it, I'd think |
| [01:31:00] | Beirdo: | lsof | grep 6013 |
| [01:31:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [01:32:00] | lane: | haha – nothing |
| [01:32:00] | lane: | I'm gonna reboot |
| [01:32:00] | Beirdo: | K :) |
| [01:32:00] | Beirdo: | something got bent |
| [01:32:00] | j-rod: | netstat -ntap | grep 6103 |
| [01:33:00] | j-rod: | nm |
| [01:33:00] | ** j-rod sticks head back in hole ** | |
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| [01:33:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:33:00] | Beirdo: | not a problem, j-rod |
| [01:33:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [01:34:00] | lane: | j-rod: thanks :) unfortunately I already rebooted |
| [01:34:00] | Esotericisms: | j-rod, any ideas on why I wouldn't be able to schedule programs? |
| [01:34:00] | Esotericisms: | I am not receiving any errors |
| [01:34:00] | Beirdo: | heh, my Xvfb has been running since May 6, it seems |
| [01:34:00] | j-rod: | No clue |
| [01:34:00] | Esotericisms: | damn |
| [01:35:00] | j-rod: | did you assign a channel listing to the tuner input on that card? |
| [01:35:00] | j-rod: | missing BuildReq on Dag's apt package... |
| [01:35:00] | Beirdo: | gah |
| [01:35:00] | Beirdo: | Go, dag |
| [01:35:00] | j-rod: | ew, and another one |
| [01:35:00] | j-rod: | bzip2-devel |
| [01:36:00] | braniff: | mythtvsetup gives: "mythtv: could not connect to socket / mythtv: No such file or directory" |
| [01:36:00] | j-rod: | and gcc-c++ |
| [01:36:00] | Esotericisms: | j-rod, I will go look |
| [01:36:00] | j-rod: | k |
| [01:36:00] | j-rod: | bad dag, no biscuit... |
| [01:36:00] | Beirdo: | dag-- |
| [01:37:00] | Esotericisms: | under what secton is that in the mythtvsetup, j-rod? |
| [01:37:00] | Esotericisms: | nm found it |
| [01:37:00] | defaultro: | j-rod, are you using a pci-based 1394 card or a built-in one? |
| [01:38:00] | j-rod: | FW port on an Audigy |
| [01:38:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [01:38:00] | j-rod: | I've also use a PCI one |
| [01:38:00] | defaultro: | any brand recommendation? |
| [01:38:00] | j-rod: | onboard on an Asus A7V333-WR sucked ass |
| [01:38:00] | defaultro: | i saw adaptec in compusa |
| [01:38:00] | j-rod: | adaptec ought to be fine |
| [01:38:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [01:38:00] | j-rod: | PCI card I used was a Western Digital card that came bundled with something |
| [01:39:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: do you know if /bin/bash is the proper location in non-Fedora distros too? :) |
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| [01:39:00] | j-rod: | for most of 'em, it should be |
| [01:39:00] | defaultro: | im planning to post what other people can record in their 6200 |
| [01:40:00] | Beirdo: | K. mpeg2cut should force bash, not /bin/sh |
| [01:40:00] | j-rod: | is on MDK10.1 |
| [01:40:00] | Beirdo: | as it definitely uses bash-only constructs |
| [01:40:00] | Beirdo: | why I never noticed before... |
| [01:40:00] | j-rod: | is on Ubu, I believe... |
| [01:40:00] | Esotericisms: | j-rod, that did it ... |
| [01:40:00] | lane: | Beirdo: ok... after the reboot we're back at my original problem. No Xvfb errors, it just hangs. I've got a bit more verbosity from avidemux as to *where* it's hanging, though :) |
| [01:40:00] | Esotericisms: | now if I can just solve my 'watch tv' issue |
| [01:40:00] | Esotericisms: | I will be very happy |
| [01:40:00] | Beirdo: | OK, that's good |
| [01:41:00] | j-rod: | live tv might be happier now too |
| [01:41:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [01:41:00] | defaultro: | im compiling .18.1 now |
| [01:41:00] | defaultro: | but going to install after 24 :D |
| [01:41:00] | Esotericisms: | k |
| [01:41:00] | j-rod: | heh, I hear that |
| [01:42:00] | defaultro: | saw your reply this morning regarding radeon cards :) |
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| [01:42:00] | j-rod: | they SUCK |
| [01:42:00] | j-rod: | :) |
| [01:42:00] | Beirdo: | OK, mpeg2cut in SVN now uses /bin/bash instead of /bin/sh |
| [01:42:00] | defaultro: | did he borrow it? |
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| [01:42:00] | j-rod: | not yet |
| [01:42:00] | defaultro: | im glad, I bought the right card |
| [01:43:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: my radeon cards have NEVER given me problems I couldn't fix |
| [01:43:00] | defaultro: | Beirdo, you might be able to help xris |
| [01:43:00] | j-rod: | ammendment: they suck for HDTV |
| [01:43:00] | j-rod: | does your work w/HD stuff? |
| [01:43:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: OK, I'll trust you on that :) |
| [01:43:00] | j-rod: | yours |
| [01:43:00] | Beirdo: | I don't have the air2pc yet |
| [01:43:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:43:00] | Esotericisms: | j-rod, live tv is not happy .. it is very very sad |
| [01:43:00] | j-rod: | couldn't ever get shit to work right for anything HD-sized |
| [01:43:00] | Beirdo: | on test-recordings, it does OK |
| [01:43:00] | defaultro: | Beirdo, you can try playing a .ts file |
| [01:44:00] | defaultro: | Eso, is it still the shitty card? :) |
| [01:44:00] | Beirdo: | but I think the frontend will need an upgrade for HD |
| [01:44:00] | j-rod: | Eso got a PVR-150 |
| [01:44:00] | j-rod: | what is the FE? |
| [01:45:00] | defaultro: | Eso has had problems for more than 1 week now |
| [01:45:00] | Beirdo: | my frontend? |
| [01:45:00] | j-rod: | yeah, sorry, too many conversations at once... :) |
| [01:45:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [01:45:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/myMyth/production.php |
| [01:46:00] | j-rod: | 2800 should be able to cut |
| [01:46:00] | j-rod: | it |
| [01:46:00] | j-rod: | my 2600 does |
| [01:46:00] | j-rod: | (though it doesn't do any of the recording or commercial cutting) |
| [01:46:00] | j-rod: | a 2.6 kernel helps too |
| [01:46:00] | Beirdo: | playing 352x480 is running 17% CPU for X, and 8% for mythfrontend |
| [01:47:00] | Beirdo: | at 720x480 is like 35% and 15% |
| [01:47:00] | j-rod: | 1920x1080i w/kernel deint on my 2600 is about like 65 and 25, IIRC |
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| [01:47:00] | Beirdo: | that would run it real close |
| [01:48:00] | j-rod: | yeah |
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| [01:48:00] | Beirdo: | I may have to switch to an nvidia when I go HD |
| [01:48:00] | defaultro: | jrod, when I play 1920x1080i, I get like between 35–45 |
| [01:48:00] | j-rod: | for? |
| [01:48:00] | Beirdo: | preferrably one with component out :) |
| [01:48:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:48:00] | defaultro: | then when i switch to xvmc, it goes down 20 27% |
| [01:48:00] | j-rod: | 35 and 45 for the frontend, for x? |
| [01:48:00] | j-rod: | and what cpu? |
| [01:49:00] | defaultro: | 3000+ |
| [01:49:00] | defaultro: | when playing a recording 1080i content |
| [01:49:00] | Beirdo: | if I can find a nice AMD64 microATX with 3 PCI... |
| [01:49:00] | defaultro: | also using 2.6.11 kernel |
| [01:49:00] | j-rod: | 3200 I get about 65% used for X and mythfe when also running kernel deint |
| [01:49:00] | j-rod: | on 1080i content |
| [01:49:00] | defaultro: | i can post my top output |
| [01:50:00] | defaultro: | it's a be/fe box |
| [01:50:00] | defaultro: | i wish i can upgrade to a nice case |
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| [01:52:00] | defaultro: | j-rod, I couldn't remember when I captured this, http://restricted.dyndns.org/athlon64_mythtv_cpu.gif |
| [01:52:00] | defaultro: | file stamp is April 15 :) |
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| [01:53:00] | defaultro: | however, that's the cpu if using xvmc |
| [01:53:00] | lane: | Beirdo: well, not sure if this is relevant, but I am getting a couple of X11 errors |
| [01:53:00] | j-rod: | was gonna say |
| [01:53:00] | lane: | Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, removing from list! |
| [01:53:00] | defaultro: | Spikes to 45% when I use Xv |
| [01:53:00] | lane: | Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list! |
| [01:53:00] | j-rod: | are you running a deint filter? |
| [01:53:00] | defaultro: | yup |
| [01:54:00] | defaultro: | linear |
| [01:54:00] | Beirdo: | that should be benign |
| [01:54:00] | lane: | Beirdo: the hang is a bit farther down at |
| [01:54:00] | lane: | >>>Other PTS = 30045 |
| [01:54:00] | j-rod: | I like the visual quality w/kernel deint the best |
| [01:54:00] | defaultro: | BADABING! Compile finished without issues :D W00T |
| [01:54:00] | j-rod: | though bob is starting to grow on me |
| [01:55:00] | j-rod: | it better, I compiled that damned thing like 80 times. :) |
| [01:55:00] | defaultro: | I've seen kernel too and I couldn't see the difference between linear |
| [01:55:00] | lane: | is there a good place online I could temporarily post output? |
| [01:55:00] | Beirdo: | lane: have you tried a different infut file? |
| [01:55:00] | defaultro: | lol, good job dude |
| [01:55:00] | lane: | Beirdo: yes |
| [01:55:00] | Beirdo: | it may just be a crappy file buggering avidemux? |
| [01:55:00] | Beirdo: | pastebin.ca |
| [01:55:00] | lane: | aha |
| [01:55:00] | lane: | I knew there was somewhere |
| [01:55:00] | lane: | I've tried a couple different files |
| [01:55:00] | defaultro: | I'm really interested in audio loss when changing channels |
| [01:56:00] | lane: | the weird thing is, they all work just fine w/out xvfb |
| [01:56:00] | Beirdo: | hmm |
| [01:56:00] | j-rod: | ack, stupid spec file... |
| [01:56:00] | Beirdo: | maybe try x16 color instead of x8 |
| [01:56:00] | Beirdo: | on the xvfb line |
| [01:57:00] | lane: | Beirdo: here we go http://pastebin.ca/11945 |
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| [01:57:00] | lane: | trying new colors... |
| [01:57:00] | defaultro: | j-rod, can you help me decide? I actually cancelled by 2nd air2pc which is pre-order. It's because, I really got very interested in firewire capture like the one on your site. Which route should I go, air2pc or firewire capturing in Comcast? |
| [01:58:00] | defaultro: | mchou is also thinking of cancelling it |
| [01:58:00] | defaultro: | he was hoping that avermedia 180 be supported |
| [01:58:00] | Beirdo: | I don't know why it would change anything... but it might |
| [01:58:00] | j-rod: | air2pc over cable or OTA? |
| [01:58:00] | defaultro: | air2pc QAM in cable |
| [01:59:00] | defaultro: | i have air2pc now using OTA |
| [01:59:00] | defaultro: | but would like to record non-OTA HD content |
| [01:59:00] | Beirdo: | lane: what are these files captured with? |
| [01:59:00] | j-rod: | the firewire connection flakes out once in a while, but you can also get the analog channels with it |
| [01:59:00] | lane: | Beirdo: pvr-250 |
| [01:59:00] | Beirdo: | OK |
| [01:59:00] | defaultro: | :) analog, that's interesting |
| [01:59:00] | j-rod: | air2pc w/qam might be more reliable, I dunno (don't have one that works w/qam (yet)) |
| [01:59:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [02:00:00] | j-rod: | both are pretty god |
| [02:00:00] | j-rod: | good |
| [02:00:00] | defaultro: | are you able to recording the analog? |
| [02:00:00] | defaultro: | record :) |
| [02:00:00] | j-rod: | haven't tried, don't have any need |
| [02:00:00] | defaultro: | when you say flakes, crashes? |
| [02:00:00] | j-rod: | no |
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| [02:00:00] | defaultro: | oh |
| [02:01:00] | j-rod: | I've seen a case where I *think* Comcast pushed down a new firmware or something that required the box to power-cycle |
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| [02:01:00] | defaultro: | ah |
| [02:01:00] | j-rod: | when it came back up, it grabbed a different FW node |
| [02:01:00] | j-rod: | so myth couldn't find it |
| [02:01:00] | defaultro: | so what was the fix? |
| [02:01:00] | lane: | Beirdo: yeah, the colors didn't change anything |
| [02:01:00] | j-rod: | unplug the FW cable, turn off the cable box, reconnect and power back up |
| [02:02:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [02:02:00] | Beirdo: | lane: not sure then. there should be no real difference between xvfb and a real x server |
| [02:02:00] | Beirdo: | increase the resolution a bit maybe? |
| [02:02:00] | Beirdo: | I dunno |
| [02:02:00] | Beirdo: | it will just use more memory |
| [02:02:00] | j-rod: | also, for the first time, I had the connection completely disappear mid-recording |
| [02:02:00] | j-rod: | 45 minutes into Desperate Housewives last night |
| [02:03:00] | j-rod: | Firewire: No Input in 15 seconds [P:0 N:1] (time) |
| [02:03:00] | defaultro: | even using the latest myth? |
| [02:03:00] | j-rod: | 0.18.1 |
| [02:03:00] | defaultro: | yup |
| [02:03:00] | j-rod: | the video stream started breaking up just before it cut out |
| [02:03:00] | ** Beirdo cues some Water Rats ** | |
| [02:03:00] | j-rod: | looked like a signal quality issue |
| [02:03:00] | lane: | Beirdo: other weird thing is that after I kill mpeg2cut, it doesn't hang, it just gives me different errors |
| [02:03:00] | j-rod: | rare, but happens |
| [02:03:00] | defaultro: | might be |
| [02:04:00] | Beirdo: | dunno |
| [02:04:00] | lane: | http://pastebin.ca/11946 |
| [02:04:00] | defaultro: | box is not powerful enough to handle simultaneous data sending over to different ports |
| [02:04:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [02:04:00] | Beirdo: | what CPU? |
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| [02:05:00] | Beirdo: | lane: what CPU are you using? |
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| [02:05:00] | lane: | Beirdo: sorry – I thought you were talking to defaultro. Athlon 1 GHz |
| [02:06:00] | ethichs: | hey im geting the QT error when i start the mythtv backend....anyonr know the fix for it? |
| [02:06:00] | Beirdo: | hmm |
| [02:06:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [02:06:00] | defaultro: | j-rod and I are talking |
| [02:06:00] | defaultro: | I know lane you were talking to Beirdo |
| [02:06:00] | Beirdo: | last time I saw something like this, avidemux was built for P4 or something, and it crapped on the Athlon |
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| [02:06:00] | lane: | I'm temporarily on my old box since my mobo died on the real one |
| [02:07:00] | defaultro: | j-rod, can we do this in comcast? I haven't tried it though. Get their promo, and after 6 months, don't renew. Get another package |
| [02:07:00] | gnarface: | greetings room. |
| [02:07:00] | gnarface: | how's everyone's monday? |
| [02:07:00] | lane: | Beirdo: you may have hit on it |
| [02:08:00] | j-rod: | defaultro, dunno... |
| [02:08:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [02:08:00] | Beirdo: | avidemux is somewhat of a bitch at tims |
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| [02:08:00] | defaultro: | I'll ask mchou about it again |
| [02:08:00] | j-rod: | so's my wife... |
| [02:08:00] | lane: | Beirdo: I have a copy that I compiled myself on this machine |
| [02:08:00] | defaultro: | coz I remember, he mentioned that to me :) |
| [02:08:00] | Beirdo: | now why it would act differently in X than Xvfb.. dunno |
| [02:08:00] | gnarface: | does anyone know when they're moving .18 to gentoo stable? |
| [02:08:00] | Nod51: | what is a good video editor to open up a xvid and cut out the commercials? |
| [02:08:00] | lane: | just added that avidemux to the front of the path |
| [02:09:00] | lane: | I thought I'd done that earlier to the same result |
| [02:09:00] | lane: | but now I'm getting a growing idx file |
| [02:09:00] | Beirdo: | ahah |
| [02:09:00] | Beirdo: | and avidemux buggers someone again :) |
| [02:09:00] | lane: | egghhh |
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| [02:10:00] | lane: | the moral of the story is: lane needs to hurry up and send his motherboard in to Asus for RMA |
| [02:10:00] | defaultro: | j-rod, thanks for the inputs |
| [02:10:00] | defaultro: | BRB, I'll just watch 24 |
| [02:10:00] | defaultro: | Beirdo, do you watch 24? |
| [02:10:00] | j-rod: | np |
| [02:10:00] | Beirdo: | yes, when I get time |
| [02:10:00] | ** j-rod watches 24 in HD ** | |
| [02:10:00] | Beirdo: | they are queued up |
| [02:11:00] | ** Beirdo slaps j-rod with the trout :) ** | |
| [02:11:00] | j-rod: | with 5.1 surround — MUCH better that way |
| [02:11:00] | defaultro: | aight |
| [02:11:00] | defaultro: | oh yeah |
| [02:11:00] | defaultro: | 5.1 works in my nforce3 board |
| [02:11:00] | ** j-rod pulls out a mackerel ** | |
| [02:11:00] | Beirdo: | I so want HD some decade |
| [02:11:00] | ** j-rod challenges Beirdo to a duel ** | |
| [02:11:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [02:11:00] | defaultro: | im happy with this built-in audio card |
| [02:11:00] | defaultro: | not the analog though, just the digital side |
| [02:11:00] | Beirdo: | I think the holy trout of slapping will beat the holy mackerel |
| [02:11:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [02:12:00] | lane: | Beirdo: yes, all seems well now |
| [02:12:00] | monrad: | anyone playing around with the new ivtv drivers and xv on the pvr-x50? |
| [02:12:00] | defaultro: | ok, guys, brb |
| [02:12:00] | ** j-rod pulls out the big guns — dual swordfish ** | |
| [02:12:00] | Beirdo: | and shouldn't you have a pacific salmon? :) |
| [02:12:00] | Beirdo: | lane: good :) |
| [02:12:00] | j-rod: | maybe a copper river salmon... |
| [02:12:00] | lane: | /lane hands Beirdo a halibut for a shield |
| [02:12:00] | lane: | oops |
| [02:12:00] | j-rod: | nah, copper river I'd eat |
| [02:12:00] | ** Beirdo remembers he has some smoked salmon in the freezer ** | |
| [02:13:00] | ** j-rod starts thinking about dinner... ** | |
| [02:13:00] | Beirdo: | so love smoked salmon |
| [02:14:00] | j-rod: | mmm... fire-grilled salmon with a lemon butter sauce... |
| [02:14:00] | Esotericisms: | whats the link to the mailing list again? |
| [02:14:00] | j-rod: | gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ |
| [02:14:00] | Esotericisms: | thanks |
| [02:14:00] | j-rod: | np |
| [02:14:00] | lane: | j-rod: btw, are there any Seattle MUGs planned near the beginning of July? I'm going to be out there for a friend's wedding, and I do believe I owe you a beer for writing your excellent guide |
| [02:14:00] | j-rod: | :) |
| [02:15:00] | j-rod: | xris set up the last one, maybe we should ping him... |
| [02:16:00] | j-rod: | I'm game for one though |
| [02:17:00] | lane: | my schedule's not completely set, but it's looking like I'll be getting to Seattle the night of July 4th, and be in town through the morning of the 6th |
| [02:17:00] | lane: | the wedding is in Port Townsend the weekend of the 2–3rd |
| [02:18:00] | lane: | doesn't look like xris is on right now |
| [02:18:00] | j-rod: | he's hiding |
| [02:18:00] | lane: | ah |
| [02:18:00] | Esotericisms: | alright I am still having issues, watching tv doesn't work ... it works for a few seconds and then it freezes and then 10 seconds later it exits to main menu ... can anyone help? are there any logs that I can supply to help figure out the issue? |
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| [02:19:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v xris | |
| [02:19:00] | xris: | laga: well, you lost. it got cut. |
| [02:19:00] | j-rod: | we were just talking about you, xris (well, sorta) |
| [02:19:00] | j-rod: | about maybe a little SeaMUG action around the beginning of July |
| [02:21:00] | ** j-rod beats dag's apt spec with a halibut ** | |
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| [02:21:00] | j-rod: | okay, who remembers what bit is needed to build man pages?... |
| [02:22:00] | xris: | MajestiK: does |
| [02:22:00] | j-rod: | dag is missing buildreqs like a mofo |
| [02:22:00] | cortezdapimp: | hello |
| [02:23:00] | cortezdapimp: | on my mac i have something called target disk mode, where i can boot my computer into being just a firewire hd... is there anything like that for linux? I want to copy some files from my mythbox before i reformat it but SMB is being wicked slow... |
| [02:24:00] | lane: | cortezdapimp: have you tried scp? |
| [02:24:00] | lane: | that might be faster |
| [02:25:00] | cortezdapimp: | hmm |
| [02:25:00] | cortezdapimp: | i'll try that. |
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| [02:25:00] | j-rod: | depending on processing power, scp can be extremely slow too |
| [02:25:00] | cortezdapimp: | i think theres something preventing me from getting full speed though, like a program using a ton of disk access or soemthing thouhg |
| [02:26:00] | cortezdapimp: | i have enough processing power, i'd just rather have that target disk mode so i can eliminate any processes that could be keeping it from working right. |
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| [02:26:00] | lane: | I don't know of anything equivalent on linux |
| [02:26:00] | j-rod: | no tdm in Linux |
| [02:27:00] | lane: | if you have an external enclosure you could put the hd in it |
| [02:27:00] | lane: | and hook it straight up to your other box |
| [02:27:00] | cortezdapimp: | ya if i had one i would |
| [02:27:00] | cortezdapimp: | thanks though. |
| [02:27:00] | j-rod: | or just hook it to an internal cable... |
| [02:27:00] | cortezdapimp: | i only have a laptop |
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| [02:27:00] | cortezdapimp: | actually |
| [02:27:00] | j-rod: | I guess pimpin' ain't easy |
| [02:27:00] | ethichs: | cannot create /.qt anuyone hav e any clues on thins? |
| [02:27:00] | j-rod: | :) |
| [02:28:00] | cortezdapimp: | now that i think of it that wouldnt work anyway, cuz i'd need to get an ext3 fs driver for my mac |
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| [02:28:00] | cortezdapimp: | pimpin 8 ez |
| [02:28:00] | ethichs: | hmm can type well today 8( |
| [02:28:00] | j-rod: | there is an ext3 driver for OS X |
| [02:28:00] | cortezdapimp: | oh there is? |
| [02:28:00] | j-rod: | yup |
| [02:28:00] | cortezdapimp: | huh so i'm back at teh beginnign lol |
| [02:28:00] | cortezdapimp: | ugh its gonna take 4 hrs to copy 500 MB |
| [02:29:00] | lane: | ethichs: huh? |
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| [02:29:00] | j-rod: | something is really jacked up if it takes 4 hrs to coyp 500MB... |
| [02:29:00] | cortezdapimp: | yea thats what i'm saying. |
| [02:29:00] | j-rod: | start turning off services on the myth box |
| [02:30:00] | cortezdapimp: | that i'm not really sure how to do. |
| [02:30:00] | lane: | ethichs: are you trying to compile qt? |
| [02:30:00] | j-rod: | what Linux dist? |
| [02:30:00] | cortezdapimp: | knoppmyth |
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| [02:31:00] | ethichs: | lane no just trying to get myth backend up and running...it says that error on starting |
| [02:31:00] | ethichs: | cant figure out why oit wont fire off |
| [02:32:00] | lane: | cortezdapimp: I'm not sure how debian does things, but look in /etc/init.d |
| [02:32:00] | cortezdapimp: | k |
| [02:32:00] | pookSter: | goodnight myth people |
| [02:32:00] | cortezdapimp: | nite |
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| [02:33:00] | ethichs: | lane any clues? |
| [02:34:00] | lane: | ethichs: not really |
| [02:34:00] | lane: | sorry |
| [02:34:00] | lane: | well, I've gotta run |
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| [02:35:00] | Esotericisms: | anyone know who I could talk to that would know more about the watch tv issue? |
| [02:35:00] | lane: | j-rod: could you post a note to the list if you do get a MUG set up for July? |
| [02:35:00] | j-rod: | sure |
| [02:36:00] | lane: | thanks. Like I said, I'd love to stop by and say hi if the schedule works out. |
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| [02:36:00] | j-rod: | cool |
| [02:36:00] | Esotericisms: | is the best way to export to xvid, divx, and the likes to use 'nuvexport'? |
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| [02:38:00] | Mrgoose (~none@cpe-065-190-101-245.triad.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [02:38:00] | Mrgoose: | hello |
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| [02:43:00] | ** j-rod loves it when mail queues get backed up to about 25,000 messages per server across 14 servers... ** | |
| [02:46:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: always fun |
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| [02:46:00] | Beirdo: | should try 300k messages in a sendmail queue |
| [02:46:00] | j-rod: | ew |
| [02:46:00] | Beirdo: | thankfully those machines are no longer |
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| [02:50:00] | j-rod: | 300k... ouch |
| [02:50:00] | j-rod: | that would not be fun |
| [02:50:00] | j-rod: | takes long enough to recover from 25k |
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| [02:51:00] | j-rod: | well, time to hit the road |
| [02:51:00] | j-rod: | later, boys and girls |
| [02:52:00] | egsavage: | speaking of mail queues, is there some new, big email virus going around? Is that there reason for the sizes you're talking about? |
| [02:52:00] | egsavage: | I notice people/lists that send to my address seem to be bouncing lately |
| [02:52:00] | Beirdo: | http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp . . . amp;class=mb |
| [02:52:00] | j-rod: | yeah |
| [02:52:00] | Beirdo: | hmmm, I wonder how crappy that chipset is |
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| [02:54:00] | egsavage: | Beirdo, you run ATI on your Myth box, right? |
| [02:54:00] | Beirdo: | yep |
| [02:55:00] | ATux: | mysql> drop database mythconverg; |
| [02:55:00] | ATux: | ERROR 1051: Unknown table 'program,programgenres,programrating,recgrouppassword,record,recorded,recordedma rkup,recordingprofiles,recordmatch,recordoverride,settings,videosource' |
| [02:55:00] | ATux: | Anyone know how I can fix that? |
| [02:55:00] | egsavage: | Do you have your X .conf up somewhere? The samples I have seen for configuring TV didn't seem to work for me... At least not for the XV layer. |
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| [02:56:00] | gnarface: | god damnit |
| [02:56:00] | Beirdo: | http://www2.beirdo.ca/~gjhurlbu/files/ |
| [02:56:00] | egsavage: | thx, i'll look it over! |
| [02:57:00] | Beirdo: | AbTux: maybe repair the database |
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| [03:08:00] | slePP: | Beirdo: time to join ipv6 |
| [03:09:00] | Beirdo: | bah to IPv6 |
| [03:09:00] | slePP: | no bah |
| [03:09:00] | slePP: | join now |
| [03:09:00] | slePP: | or you will melt in the eternal fires of NAT! |
| [03:09:00] | Beirdo: | NAT is good, mmkay? |
| [03:09:00] | ** slePP wonders what you've been smoking... ** | |
| [03:10:00] | Beirdo: | the only things that NAT breaks are shite to start with |
| [03:10:00] | ** Beirdo glares at SIP ** | |
| [03:10:00] | ** Esotericisms is very sad ... watch tv doesn't work :9 ** | |
| [03:10:00] | Esotericisms: | :) |
| [03:10:00] | Esotericisms: | :( |
| [03:13:00] | Esotericisms: | my nuvexport just keeps repeating this message 'Waiting for mythtranscode to set up the fifos' |
| [03:14:00] | Esotericisms: | what does that mean? |
| [03:14:00] | Beirdo: | exactly what it says |
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| [03:29:00] | sunilonln: | is there a way to create playlists for mythmusic outside of the frontend? |
| [03:30:00] | Esotericisms: | in the frontend it says there was an error in playback |
| [03:30:00] | Esotericisms: | in the logs from the frontend it says ..... |
| [03:31:00] | Esotericisms: | http://pastebin.ca/11943 |
| [03:31:00] | Esotericisms: | damnit now my myth is not recording the channel it says it is ... |
| [03:31:00] | Esotericisms: | now I have to figure that out |
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| [03:36:00] | Esotericisms: | Beirdo, can you help with my channels being off |
| [03:36:00] | Beirdo: | not really |
| [03:37:00] | Beirdo: | read the documentation |
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| [03:38:00] | Esotericisms: | yeah I am trying to sift through the v4l lists |
| [03:38:00] | egsavage: | anyone ever has issues related to start order? For example, maybe mythbackend starting before ivtv? I'm wondering if that could be one of my problems... Ivtv suddenly (no changes on the install) started incorrectly seeing my pvr-250 card as a pvr-150... |
| [03:40:00] | Esotericisms: | shouldn't matter |
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| [03:40:00] | Esotericisms: | I can't get lirc or ivtv to load at all at startup ... very annoying |
| [03:41:00] | egsavage: | my ivtv starts, but again, thinks i have a different card than what it really is... strange thing is, the day before, exactly the same install, it booted fine and saw the pvr-250 |
| [03:42:00] | egsavage: | i just followed jarod's FAQ and put those entries in the modprobe.conf file |
| [03:43:00] | Esotericisms: | idk, my channels are off, by a lot .. so I am not going to be any help right now |
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| [03:51:00] | Esotericisms: | hey Beirdo, you running a pvr-150? |
| [03:54:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [03:54:00] | akira: | i got a pvr 150, when i do a "cat /dev/video0 >test.mpg", the test.mpg has color, but mythtv produces a black and white picture, anybody know why? |
| [03:55:00] | Esotericisms: | go to the mailing lists ... there are several articles on that |
| [03:55:00] | Esotericisms: | akira, what is your modprobe.conf file look like? |
| [03:57:00] | Esotericisms: | akira, what are the lines of your modprobe.conf file for your card? |
| [03:57:00] | sunilonln: | i'm running a pvr-150 and can't get sound working correctly |
| [03:57:00] | sunilonln: | and it screws up everything else along with it (can't change channels) |
| [03:57:00] | Esotericisms: | what os? |
| [03:57:00] | sunilonln: | fc3 |
| [03:57:00] | akira: | Esotericisms, do you mind if i pm you my ivtv modules.conf file? |
| [03:58:00] | Esotericisms: | yes please do |
| [03:58:00] | akira: | i also have a minor sound problem, i can hear just fine, but there is a loud whine in the background |
| [03:58:00] | Esotericisms: | sunilonln, you should really have to do much with sound it should be automatic ... |
| [03:58:00] | sunilonln: | well it works |
| [03:58:00] | sunilonln: | but it's garbled |
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| [03:59:00] | sunilonln: | and changing channels gives 'Waited too long for decoder to pause' |
| [03:59:00] | sunilonln: | but changing channels is fine if no sound is used |
| [03:59:00] | sunilonln: | ie /dev/dsp is used by something else before watching tv |
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| [04:01:00] | Esotericisms: | sunilonln, I have that problem except it happends as soon as I try to watch tv |
| [04:01:00] | Esotericisms: | hrm |
| [04:01:00] | sunilonln: | i can watch whatever channel it is on fine (with the garbled sound) |
| [04:01:00] | Esotericisms: | see I can't do that |
| [04:01:00] | sunilonln: | but as soon as i try to change channels, i get weird lock-ups of the frontend |
| [04:01:00] | Esotericisms: | akira, you using lirc? |
| [04:02:00] | sunilonln: | sometimes it resolves itself and goes back to the watch tv screen |
| [04:02:00] | sunilonln: | other times, i have to kill it |
| [04:02:00] | Esotericisms: | hrm, I don't know ... I will let you know if I fix mine |
| [04:02:00] | sunilonln: | k |
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| [04:03:00] | sunilonln: | same here |
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| [04:08:00] | sunilonln: | my myth box won't really have much use till that's fixed |
| [04:08:00] | sunilonln: | though it's coming in handy for playing music over the network |
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| [04:10:00] | dcfogg: | something is wrong with my sound :-( |
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| [04:10:00] | dcfogg: | it wont shut down when I close mythtv |
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| [04:12:00] | dmaneice: | does anyone have this file mythtv-xbox.0.4.5-beta.tar.gz |
| [04:12:00] | dmaneice: | I am trying to update my xbox frontend |
| [04:13:00] | rpete: | the xbox mythtv site isn't up? |
| [04:13:00] | Flimzy: | What kind of hardware is used to interface mythtv with digital cable service? |
| [04:14:00] | dmaneice: | no |
| [04:14:00] | sunilonln: | Flimzy: take component/svideo out with an ir blaster |
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| [04:15:00] | akira: | Esotericisms, sorry, i got disconnected. Did you see anything funky in my setup? |
| [04:15:00] | dcfogg: | I have an audigy sound card and when I shut down mythtv the sound stays on |
| [04:15:00] | rpete: | dmaneice, let me see if it's still on my xbox |
| [04:16:00] | dmaneice: | thanks |
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| [04:17:00] | rpete: | afraid I don't have it dmaneice |
| [04:17:00] | dmaneice: | thanks for looking |
| [04:17:00] | dmaneice: | I wonder why it is down |
| [04:18:00] | rpete: | I've wondered why it hasn't been updated in so long |
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| [04:19:00] | dmaneice: | I hope he puts it up soon |
| [04:19:00] | dmaneice: | I need to get that file :) |
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| [04:23:00] | argon: | 2005-05–17 05:20:13.403 Video timing method: RTC |
| [04:23:00] | argon: | 2005-05–17 05:20:14.350 prebuffering pause |
| [04:23:00] | argon: | after swtiching to live tv |
| [04:23:00] | argon: | and the tv freeze |
| [04:23:00] | argon: | using a pvr350/ivtv lastest stable |
| [04:25:00] | argon: | hm |
| [04:26:00] | dcfogg: | can anyone help me configure sound correctly????? |
| [04:30:00] | defaultro: | YES, .18.1 fixed audio loss when changing channels :D |
| [04:31:00] | sunilonln: | defaultro: how new is .18.1? i can't remember what i'm running |
| [04:32:00] | dopester: | defaultro: can still happen but much less likely |
| [04:34:00] | ** Beirdo sneezes all over the channel ** | |
| [04:35:00] | sunilonln: | is .18.1 on the atrpms repository yet? |
| [04:35:00] | Beirdo: | why don't you just look and find out? |
| [04:35:00] | defaultro: | .18.1 is cool |
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| [04:36:00] | sunilonln: | i could, but that would mean going downstairs to turn on the computer :p |
| [04:36:00] | defaultro: | some weird sound when I change channel but it's ok |
| [04:36:00] | Beirdo: | huh? |
| [04:36:00] | defaultro: | it sounds like a whip |
| [04:36:00] | Beirdo: | you're on a computer right now, silly |
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| [04:37:00] | defaultro: | is that for me Beirdo? |
| [04:37:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [04:37:00] | defaultro: | oh ok, sorry |
| [04:37:00] | Beirdo: | pay attention |
| [04:37:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [04:37:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [04:37:00] | defaultro: | the sound though is like a girl spanking her butt but very high pitch :) |
| [04:38:00] | defaultro: | like a clap |
| [04:38:00] | Beirdo: | whatever |
| [04:38:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [04:38:00] | sunilonln: | Beirdo: sadly, i don't run linux on anything but the myth box |
| [04:38:00] | Skif: | my disk was fillng up pretty bad until I figured out I had to manually enable autoexpire. As a result, I deleted some mythtv recordings manually, but I can't figure out how to delete them in the UI |
| [04:38:00] | defaultro: | i tried changing many times, the sound didn't go away :D |
| [04:38:00] | Beirdo: | sunilonln: who said anything about running linix |
| [04:38:00] | Beirdo: | linux rather |
| [04:38:00] | sunilonln: | well, i have to check apt right |
| [04:38:00] | Beirdo: | ever heard of a web browser? |
| [04:38:00] | sunilonln: | (i'm new at this) |
| [04:39:00] | Beirdo: | atrpms.net |
| [04:39:00] | Skif: | is there a program or command to rescan the cache dir and delete any recordings from the db that don't exist in the filesystem? |
| [04:40:00] | defaultro: | dopester, I have noticed that when I record this program "America's Next top Model", I am not able to record their talking, but I do hear background music. But during commercial, I can hear the voice |
| [04:40:00] | sunilonln: | ok, it's not on atrpms .. what's the next best way to install it? |
| [04:40:00] | Flimzy: | defaultro: That sounds like a feature to me :) |
| [04:40:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [04:40:00] | Beirdo: | you wait for the rpms or you compile it yourself |
| [04:40:00] | defaultro: | Flimzy, why you say it's a feature? |
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| [04:41:00] | Flimzy: | defaultro: You can see the pretty faces without listening to them talk :P |
| [04:41:00] | defaultro: | LOL :) |
| [04:41:00] | defaultro: | actually, it's cool |
| [04:41:00] | Flimzy: | and the background music part sounds cool, too |
| [04:41:00] | Flimzy: | hehe |
| [04:41:00] | defaultro: | yup |
| [04:41:00] | defaultro: | very soothing |
| [04:41:00] | Flimzy: | anyway, I'm gonna watch some Star Trek now... with music _and_ voices |
| [04:41:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [04:41:00] | sunilonln: | haha, have fun Flimzy |
| [04:42:00] | defaultro: | i've noticed some changes in Star Trek |
| [04:42:00] | defaultro: | as compared to the previous star treks |
| [04:42:00] | ** Skif looked in mythtv.og/docs, but couldn't find anything useful ** | |
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| [04:42:00] | Mrgoose: | anyone here? |
| [04:42:00] | defaultro: | looks like, it's not for kids anymore, LOL |
| [04:42:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [04:42:00] | Flimzy: | Mrgoose: not any more... |
| [04:42:00] | Mrgoose: | heh |
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| [04:42:00] | Mrgoose: | lol |
| [04:42:00] | Mrgoose: | when i go to watch tv . it says Mythtv is already using all available inputs for recording |
| [04:42:00] | Mrgoose: | however im not recording anything |
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| [04:43:00] | Beirdo: | if you'd just sit and wait for you NOT to be interrupting, Mrgoose, you'd see |
| [04:43:00] | sunilonln: | Mrgoose: is your capture card configured correctly? |
| [04:43:00] | defaultro: | Mrgoose, ps ax|grep mythfrontend |
| [04:43:00] | sunilonln: | maybe it doesn't see a card |
| [04:43:00] | Mrgoose: | sunilonln: yea cause if i do cat /dev/video0 > /mnt/test.mpg |
| [04:43:00] | Mrgoose: | it captures and i can view it |
| [04:43:00] | defaultro: | that happened to me last week, found out i had 2 instance of FE |
| [04:43:00] | defaultro: | check it if so |
| [04:43:00] | Mrgoose: | ps aux|grep mythfrontend |
| [04:43:00] | Mrgoose: | root 1832 0.2 3.1 38856 16184 pts/1 S 23:32 0:01 mythfrontend |
| [04:43:00] | Mrgoose: | root 1862 0.0 0.0 1484 460 pts/2 S 23:42 0:00 grep mythfrontend |
| [04:44:00] | defaultro: | badabing |
| [04:44:00] | sunilonln: | yeah, but is it set up right in mythsetup? |
| [04:44:00] | defaultro: | :D |
| [04:44:00] | Mrgoose: | defaultro: so killall mythfrontend |
| [04:44:00] | defaultro: | but wait |
| [04:44:00] | defaultro: | you only have 1 |
| [04:44:00] | defaultro: | ps ax|grep mythfrontend |grep -v grep |
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| [04:44:00] | Mrgoose: | 1832 pts/1 S 0:01 mythfrontend |
| [04:44:00] | defaultro: | oh ok |
| [04:44:00] | defaultro: | that's fine |
| [04:45:00] | defaultro: | im thinking what i did |
| [04:45:00] | defaultro: | wait |
| [04:45:00] | defaultro: | i killall backend and frontend |
| [04:45:00] | defaultro: | then killed mysql |
| [04:45:00] | defaultro: | started mysql |
| [04:45:00] | defaultro: | started backend |
| [04:45:00] | defaultro: | started frontend |
| [04:46:00] | defaultro: | try that |
| [04:46:00] | Mrgoose: | ok |
| [04:46:00] | defaultro: | see the order? ;) |
| [04:46:00] | Mrgoose: | how do you kill mysql |
| [04:46:00] | defaultro: | should be in init scripts |
| [04:47:00] | Skif: | So is there a program or command to rescan my mythtv recordings dir and delete from the db any programs whose .nuv files aren't there anymore? |
| [04:47:00] | defaultro: | it should be like, /etc/rc.d/init/mysql stop |
| [04:47:00] | sunilonln: | if i did http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.4 would it transparently update? |
| [04:47:00] | defaultro: | i was looking at mine, it's mysqld |
| [04:48:00] | Mrgoose: | defaultro: when i try to start mythbackend it says Can't connect to local mysql server through socket |
| [04:48:00] | defaultro: | so, /etc/rc.d/init/mysqld stop |
| [04:48:00] | Mrgoose: | couldn't open db |
| [04:48:00] | defaultro: | of course |
| [04:48:00] | Mrgoose: | Would you like to configure the database connection now |
| [04:48:00] | defaultro: | i told you |
| [04:48:00] | defaultro: | it should be in order |
| [04:48:00] | Mrgoose: | yea i see , i read that wrong |
| [04:48:00] | Mrgoose: | sorry dsylexia |
| [04:48:00] | defaultro: | kill be again |
| [04:48:00] | defaultro: | start mysql |
| [04:48:00] | defaultro: | start be |
| [04:48:00] | defaultro: | start fe |
| [04:49:00] | defaultro: | i troubleshot many things but i wasn't able to fix that "card already in use", until I did what I told you |
| [04:49:00] | defaultro: | simple |
| [04:50:00] | defaultro: | if it still happens, then problem is way profound |
| [04:50:00] | Mrgoose: | heh yea it does |
| [04:50:00] | Mrgoose: | still happen |
| [04:50:00] | defaultro: | do you have a backup of settings table? |
| [04:50:00] | defaultro: | working backup? |
| [04:50:00] | Mrgoose: | no |
| [04:50:00] | defaultro: | :( |
| [04:50:00] | Mrgoose: | heh |
| [04:50:00] | Mrgoose: | whats the next step? |
| [04:50:00] | Mrgoose: | reinstall mythv? |
| [04:50:00] | defaultro: | hmmm |
| [04:50:00] | defaultro: | if it's ok with you |
| [04:50:00] | Mrgoose: | heh |
| [04:51:00] | Mrgoose: | sure why not |
| [04:51:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [04:51:00] | defaultro: | cool |
| [04:51:00] | defaultro: | might as well rename mythconverg |
| [04:51:00] | defaultro: | and recreate a new one |
| [04:51:00] | Mrgoose: | ? |
| [04:51:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [04:51:00] | defaultro: | oh don't |
| [04:51:00] | defaultro: | i remember what i did |
| [04:51:00] | defaultro: | i had multiple entries in settings |
| [04:51:00] | defaultro: | glad i had a good backup |
| [04:52:00] | defaultro: | which screwed up mine 2 weeks ago |
| [04:52:00] | defaultro: | just go ahead and overwrite existing |
| [04:52:00] | defaultro: | wait |
| [04:52:00] | defaultro: | have you tried restarting your box? |
| [04:52:00] | defaultro: | rebooting? |
| [04:52:00] | defaultro: | try that, last shot |
| [04:52:00] | defaultro: | if it doesn't help, reinstall |
| [04:53:00] | Mrgoose: | yea |
| [04:53:00] | Mrgoose: | i did reboot |
| [04:53:00] | defaultro: | when? |
| [04:53:00] | Mrgoose: | earlier today |
| [04:53:00] | Mrgoose: | for some reason when i booted up the other day my mythfrontend settings were gone |
| [04:53:00] | defaultro: | so the problem was already there? |
| [04:53:00] | defaultro: | i have a question |
| [04:53:00] | Mrgoose: | yes |
| [04:53:00] | defaultro: | is your mythbox accessible on the internet? |
| [04:54:00] | defaultro: | i hope not |
| [04:54:00] | Mrgoose: | yes |
| [04:54:00] | defaultro: | do you have a firewall |
| [04:54:00] | Mrgoose: | oh |
| [04:54:00] | Mrgoose: | what do you mean by accessible on the internet |
| [04:54:00] | defaultro: | someone can connect to your box |
| [04:54:00] | Mrgoose: | oh |
| [04:54:00] | defaultro: | have you change the root password for mysql |
| [04:54:00] | Mrgoose: | dont think so |
| [04:54:00] | defaultro: | that will prevent damage |
| [04:55:00] | defaultro: | is it accessible |
| [04:55:00] | defaultro: | is it connected to the internet? |
| [04:55:00] | Mrgoose: | i mean i can get on the internet on my mythbox yes |
| [04:55:00] | Mrgoose: | and i did have mythweb installed |
| [04:55:00] | defaultro: | oh no :( |
| [04:55:00] | defaultro: | but |
| [04:55:00] | defaultro: | are you sure that no one can access it? |
| [04:55:00] | Mrgoose: | no im not sure |
| [04:55:00] | defaultro: | ihope it's behind a firewall |
| [04:56:00] | defaultro: | if we can see your webserver, oh NO |
| [04:56:00] | Mrgoose: | heh |
| [04:56:00] | defaultro: | do you have phpMyAdmin installed too? |
| [04:56:00] | Mrgoose: | no |
| [04:56:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [04:56:00] | defaultro: | that sounds better |
| [04:57:00] | akira: | I have a pvr150, when i watch tv, there is no color and a loud whine in the back ground, has anybody heard of this? |
| [04:57:00] | defaultro: | but you haven't answered me yet |
| [04:57:00] | defaultro: | coz I was thinking that someone might be playing with your mythconverg tables |
| [04:57:00] | Mrgoose: | hmm |
| [04:57:00] | Mrgoose: | i hope not |
| [04:57:00] | defaultro: | since you told us, your settings were all gone |
| [04:58:00] | Skif: | akira: are you sure it's being detected as a pvr150? Sounds like it's trying to use the wrong tuner modul |
| [04:58:00] | Skif: | e |
| [04:58:00] | dcfogg: | can anyone help me configure sound so that it stops when I exit mythtv??? |
| [04:58:00] | defaultro: | anyways, I'm just giving you tips when connecting to the internet |
| [04:58:00] | akira: | dcfogg, it's getting detect fine |
| [04:58:00] | akira: | errr detected |
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| [04:59:00] | dcfogg: | yes it works but it doesnt shut down and the timing is off |
| [04:59:00] | dcfogg: | it is with an audigy card and the emu10j\k1 driver |
| [05:00:00] | defaultro: | what do you think guys about new Prison Bars on FOX channel? |
| [05:00:00] | rpete: | who has time for tv? |
| [05:02:00] | Skif: | are there docs for the mythtv db schema anywhere? |
| [05:09:00] | Mrgoose: | defaultro: so i gotta do all the mysql stuff again? |
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| [05:16:00] | dcfogg: | now I get the sound with an echo |
| [05:17:00] | dcfogg: | akira, any ideas??? |
| [05:18:00] | dcfogg: | I think I am getting live sound and recorded sound but I know I only want recorded |
| [05:27:00] | Beirdo: | RTFM :) |
| [05:27:00] | Beirdo: | that's covered in the docs |
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| [05:29:00] | Beirdo: | bed time |
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| [05:48:00] | Mrgoose: | yo defaultro |
| [05:51:00] | dopester: | defaultro: sounds like you are playing back 5.1 with 2 speakers |
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| [06:22:00] | Mrgoose: | anyone here? |
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| [08:21:00] | gnarface: | ping |
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| [08:57:00] | gm78: | Hey all. I am running CentOS 4.0. I have just compiled MythTV and also install Lame and all that other stuff like MySQL from the Red Hat RPMS. I imported the MythTV MySQL configuration by issueing the command mysql -u root < mc.sql Then I run MythTV setup and do like the guide on mythtv.org says, but MythTV cannot access the database. Is there anything I could possibly be missing (please... |
| [08:57:00] | gm78: | ...ask for more info as I don't know what info to give you :-P ) |
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| [09:07:00] | gnarface: | gm78: did you check the database for the table? |
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| [09:07:00] | gm78: | gnarface : lol, im going to be honest with you. i know nothing about databases. is there a command i can issue to do this? |
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| [09:29:00] | gnarface: | gm78: mysqldump [database name] |
| [09:29:00] | gnarface: | woops. |
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| [10:48:00] | fweeee: | I'm having troubles watching a video file I downloaded from the net – in windows it says the video codec is "Nero Video Decoder". Is this going to be a problem in mythtv/linux? |
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| [11:27:00] | esoteric|atwork: | morning |
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| [11:38:00] | esoteric|atwork: | my remote intermitently works ... like I can press the left button to move to a different option ... and it works then it won't work at all for a while .. then it might move when I hit a button later ... |
| [11:38:00] | esoteric|atwork: | it worked fine before the rebooot |
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| [12:30:00] | elgoog: | hi all |
| [12:32:00] | elgoog: | anyone here using ubuntu as their myth box OS? |
| [12:33:00] | elgoog: | or is anyone running a Hauppauge Nova-T card that may be able to give me a data point on channel tuning speed? |
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| [12:35:00] | elgoog: | ie how long typically does it take to tune to an arbitrary channel? I'm getting pretty average timings – between 5 and 10 seconds to obtain lock. |
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| [13:00:00] | elgoog: | Anyway, if I figure out how to get the tuning working quicker on ubuntu, it'll appear at http://dvlinux.blogspot.com |
| [13:01:00] | elgoog: | I'll check the logs for this channel if anyone feels like replying once I've gone – take care all! Bye. |
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| [13:10:00] | esoteric|atwrk: | hello |
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| [13:33:00] | wsy: | question: does anyone here run multiple tuners? |
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| [14:01:00] | sidd: | hi! has anyone tried the new pvr 150 card from hauppage? |
| [14:01:00] | sidd: | am unable to get tuner audio with tuner video. |
| [14:01:00] | sidd: | i do get tuner audio with AV video if i set mixer=1 while loading the wm8775 module. |
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| [14:07:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | hi – im having problems with my gf's tv card. in gentoo it worked (ive removed gentoo now), in debian the tuner was set to 4(no tuner), i followed laga's instructions (i think it was laga) yesterday, but /usr/src/linux/Documentation/video4linux/bttv/Tuners doesn't give much in the way of help. i think the tuner is a |
| [14:07:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | 1236: NTSC |
| [14:07:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | 1246: PAL I |
| [14:07:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | oops, 1246: PAL I |
| [14:09:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | hmm thats parculiar – its now a type 17 tuner, and its working perfectly |
| [14:09:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | i didn't do anything |
| [14:09:00] | sidd: | Super_Cat_Frog, what does dmesg say? what tuner do you have? |
| [14:14:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | sidd – it works now, dmesg told me its a type 17 tuner (it wasn't the other day). its a PAL I BTTV card |
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| [14:33:00] | esoteric|atwork: | morning (hopefully I won't get disconnected this time) |
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| [14:41:00] | esoteric|atwork: | anyone around yet? |
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| [14:54:00] | Beirdo: | Failed to fetch http://kde-redhat.atrpms.net/apt/kde-redhat/1 . . . glist.stable 404 Not Found |
| [14:54:00] | Beirdo: | grrrrrrrr |
| [14:54:00] | ** Beirdo swings the trout at Axel ** | |
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| [15:20:00] | esoteric[work]: | is freenode having issues? |
| [15:20:00] | Beirdo: | not more than usual |
| [15:21:00] | esoteric[work]: | hey Beirdo, I my pvr-150 is stuck on channel 4 |
| [15:21:00] | Beirdo: | good for it :) |
| [15:21:00] | Beirdo: | you don't have it set up right |
| [15:21:00] | esoteric[work]: | that is what I read |
| [15:22:00] | esoteric[work]: | mailing lists said that I am missing 'alias char-major-81–0 ivtv' (most likely) |
| [15:22:00] | esoteric[work]: | tha tis in there though |
| [15:23:00] | esoteric[work]: | plus ivtv doesn't load on restart, I have to modprobe ivtv |
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| [15:24:00] | esoteric[work]: | whats the link to where the log location is at for this channel? |
| [15:24:00] | Beirdo: | MythLogBot: help |
| [15:24:00] | Beirdo: | scroll back, silly, it tells you when you enter the channel |
| [15:24:00] | esoteric[work]: | I already looked ... it didn't tell me |
| [15:25:00] | esoteric[work]: | normally it does, this time it didn't |
| [15:28:00] | Beirdo: | 1116339496587 >>>NOTICE esoteric[work] :This channel is logged – http://mythtv.b |
| [15:28:00] | Beirdo: | eirdo.ca/ircLog/ |
| [15:28:00] | Beirdo: | sure it did |
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| [15:31:00] | kaptk2: | Hi, I am looking for a motherboard recomendation it needs to be mini atx and have onboard sound video and vga any recomends? |
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| [15:53:00] | kaptk2: | Hi, I am looking for a motherboard recomendation it needs to be mini atx and have onboard sound video and vga any recomends? |
| [15:53:00] | Beirdo: | we heard you the first time, and no. you'll have to do some research |
| [15:55:00] | kaptk2: | just checking, I do have one that has all that now but am not happy with the onboard sound. So I was wondering if anybody had a similar setup that they would share |
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| [16:02:00] | maddhaggis: | hello all |
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| [16:09:00] | maddhaggis: | anybody home? |
| [16:12:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [16:12:00] | m1ke: | i work at home, so yeah, i'm at home |
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| [16:39:00] | Snecklifter: | hi folks. Just installed mythtv. Picture shakes whilst menu is displayed on screen. Any ideas? |
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| [16:45:00] | epoch: | take the tv off your washing machine while it's running? |
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| [16:50:00] | esoteric[work]: | hello |
| [16:52:00] | Snecklifter: | hi |
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| [16:54:00] | Beirdo: | heya, xris |
| [16:54:00] | Beirdo: | how goes the vacation? |
| [16:55:00] | xris: | it's all good. |
| [16:55:00] | xris: | have to pack, though |
| [16:55:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [16:55:00] | Beirdo: | pack? |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | still at home then? |
| [16:56:00] | xris: | of course. |
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| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:57:00] | ** Beirdo eats some chicken noodle soup ** | |
| [16:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | Man, You gotta love broadband internet |
| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | damn skippy |
| [16:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | ncftp /pub/linux/kernel/v2.6 > get linux-2.6.11.9.tar.bz2 |
| [16:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | linux-2.6.11.9.tar.bz2: ETA: 0:30 18.26/ 35.38 MB 582.55 kB/s |
| [16:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | makes me all giggly sometimes |
| [16:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | not bad for a home connection |
| [17:04:00] | m1ke: | yeah i'm getting that kind of speed on my comcast connection since a couple weeks ago |
| [17:04:00] | m1ke: | seems they upgraded something |
| [17:05:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've been getting it for a while (not comcast) but every once in a while I just remember how bad it use to be when I first started on IRC over my old dialup |
| [17:06:00] | esoteric[work]: | hey Beirdo, my work lost is pipe to the net |
| [17:06:00] | esoteric[work]: | I am back now |
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| [17:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: I've never seen any |
| [17:12:00] | metalac: | hey guys |
| [17:12:00] | metalac: | <metalac> I'm geting ready to build a PVR and I have a questionI'm gona have it hooked up to my TV and also have a small 5" lcd on front of the case |
| [17:12:00] | metalac: | the small lcd connects via s-video |
| [17:12:00] | metalac: | so I was wondering if there are video cards that suppor dual s-video? |
| [17:12:00] | GreyFoxx: | but you could probably "split" the one output into two.. though I don't know what that would do to the picture quality |
| [17:12:00] | metalac: | i would relly like not to use 2 video cards |
| [17:12:00] | metalac: | the thing is that i'm gona be using 2 screens for 2 different things |
| [17:13:00] | metalac: | and does Haupauge PVR-500 work with mythtv?? |
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| [17:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: The biggest problem with 500's right now is good clean driver support. While a lot more people are reporting success with them, they still seem to be a little on the flaky side |
| [17:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | but the guys in #ivtv-dev could better answer that |
| [17:14:00] | metalac: | oh ok |
| [17:14:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don;'t have one so my info could be out of date :) |
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| [17:15:00] | metalac: | k thnx |
| [17:15:00] | metalac: | and also do you know what's the s-video on pvr150's for? |
| [17:15:00] | metalac: | is it just for encoded stuff? |
| [17:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's an svideo input, for recording from an svideo connected device |
| [17:16:00] | GreyFoxx: | digital cable, dvd, vhs, whatever you connect via s-video. |
| [17:17:00] | metalac: | oh it's an input |
| [17:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | yup |
| [17:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | the only pvr card with an output is the 350 |
| [17:17:00] | GreyFoxx: | everything else is input |
| [17:18:00] | metalac: | yeah and 350 output is not all that great from what i hear |
| [17:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | the output is awesome |
| [17:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | almost perfect |
| [17:18:00] | metalac: | really? |
| [17:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | the problem is that people want to use it like a video card which it is not intended for |
| [17:18:00] | metalac: | i read some reviews and they compared it with all in wonder cards and it said it wasn't that great |
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| [17:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: I've seen the same review, but everyone I know who has used it has said it was pretty much perfect from what they could tell |
| [17:19:00] | GreyFoxx: | and being less than another card doesn't mean it sucks :) |
| [17:19:00] | metalac: | heheh |
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| [17:20:00] | metalac: | so i guess the video cards that are out there with bot s-video and composite can only utilize one at a time |
| [17:20:00] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: likely, or they are transmitting over both the same thing at the same time. Eitherway it would be considered a single output |
| [17:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | some transmit via both at the same time |
| [17:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | the onboard tv out on my mother board does that |
| [17:21:00] | GreyFoxx: | but the tvencoder chip sucks so the image looks like crap :) |
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| [17:25:00] | metalac: | yeah this sux, i'm gona have to rethink this whole thing now |
| [17:25:00] | metalac: | i'm building a case for this pc, so i figured max 2 pci slots |
| [17:25:00] | metalac: | but it seems like i'll need 3 |
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| [17:27:00] | esoteric[atwork]: | alright, damn internet connection |
| [17:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | metalac: So you want the lcd to have a different screen than the regular screen right ? |
| [17:28:00] | esoteric[atwork]: | anyone know why live tv would start playing for a second then pause then exit and return the error "there was a problem with playback" (or something of that nature) |
| [17:28:00] | esoteric[atwork]: | http://pastebin.ca/11943 |
| [17:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | using one of the psone lcd's ? |
| [17:28:00] | esoteric[atwork]: | that is what the frontend returns |
| [17:28:00] | metalac: | GreyFoxx: yep, you're right on it. |
| [17:28:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've got one of those as well :) |
| [17:29:00] | metalac: | GeckoFiend: i know they can go vga, but not sure if i want to solder on that board |
| [17:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | Just do the VGA input mod , and treat the vga output differently than the s-video |
| [17:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh |
| [17:29:00] | ** Beirdo does the beer mod ** | |
| [17:29:00] | metalac: | i'm still thinking though |
| [17:29:00] | metalac: | might just do that |
| [17:29:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use mine with composite inuts into the avinput port |
| [17:30:00] | metalac: | oh how do you power it? |
| [17:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | I connect it to my wireless video camera and chase my cats around the house with my RC car |
| [17:30:00] | metalac: | ahahahahahahaah |
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| [17:30:00] | esoteric[atwork]: | anyone? |
| [17:30:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've got it in a case and everything, with a av switch to flip to the tvout of my old laptop if I want a pc view |
| [17:31:00] | metalac: | ohhh |
| [17:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | looks just like a regular business breif case |
| [17:31:00] | metalac: | well i still have to buy it and crack it open and see what it's all about |
| [17:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm gonna hook it up to a RC Helicopter one of these days |
| [17:31:00] | metalac: | ahahah |
| [17:31:00] | ** metalac welcomes you to voyering in 21st century ;) ** | |
| [17:32:00] | ** Beirdo hopes there are no high schools near GreyFoxx's house ** | |
| [17:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | It's fun chasing the cats with it. Or driving the car under the house/shed with a flashlight to look around :) |
| [17:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | Beirdo: Two close by :) |
| [17:32:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [17:32:00] | metalac: | ahahahah |
| [17:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have 2 cars, one for indoor use, and one picktruct thing with big tires for outdoors just incase I get stuck :) |
| [17:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | I need to add a GPS to the thing eventually |
| [17:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | cause sooner or later I'll get lost and have to go find it :) |
| [17:34:00] | metalac: | how much was the wireless camera? |
| [17:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | the camera + transmitter/receiever were around $200CDN |
| [17:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | the camera is freakin tiny |
| [17:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm VERY tempted to put it into a waterproof enclosure and take it out Kayaking this summer. Either on the end of a rope or in a RC sub |
| [17:35:00] | metalac: | or on a nude beach ;) |
| [17:35:00] | GreyFoxx: | Makes me consider picking up one of the USB pvr's for the recording to the laptop |
| [17:35:00] | metalac: | the price is not bad though, seems like a fun toy |
| [17:36:00] | GreyFoxx: | My cats hate it, but I love it. hehe |
| [17:36:00] | metalac: | well guys lectures are about to start |
| [17:36:00] | metalac: | been nice talking to you |
| [17:36:00] | metalac: | thnx fro help |
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| [17:37:00] | BaZiL: | anyone here know if htere is a apt-get version of myth 18.1 ? |
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| [17:58:00] | Snecklifter: | BaZiL, Not yet (for me anyway) still on 0.18 |
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| [18:00:00] | sphing: | has anyone had luck with apt-get and a epia board? |
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| [18:26:00] | cortezdapimp: | hello |
| [18:29:00] | sphing: | hey |
| [18:31:00] | cortezdapimp: | do you know how to stop xf86? I'm having a brainfart |
| [18:31:00] | cortezdapimp: | i'm installing nvidia drivers and i forgot how i did it before. |
| [18:31:00] | sphing: | ctrl + alt + backspace |
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| [18:34:00] | cortezdapimp: | thx |
| [18:34:00] | maddhaggis: | BaZil: I just did a apt-get dist-upgrade after the initial setup and install. It pulled 18.1 from freshrpms....I think |
| [18:35:00] | cortezdapimp: | that puts me back to gdm |
| [18:35:00] | cortezdapimp: | but then i can stop gdm cool thx |
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| [18:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | Hrm, with the advances in the YUV frame writing on the ivtv drivers I might pick up a 350 afterall |
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| [18:45:00] | chapin: | QInputContext: cannot create input context for non-toplevel widgets when i try to run mythtvsetup |
| [18:46:00] | chapin: | can't get past first screen of setup |
| [18:46:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: what kind of advances? |
| [18:47:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: They've added XV support to their driver to allow mplayer/xine/whatever to write yuv frames directly to the card, so people are playing divx and xvid stuff through the card without pegging their CPU |
| [18:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | ongoing beta work, but very promising |
| [18:48:00] | m1ke: | yeah GreyFoxx it looks like it's still got some bugs but i'm going to give it a shot tonight with some divx files |
| [18:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'd love to give it a shot if I had a 350 :) |
| [18:48:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: woohoo, that rocks! |
| [18:48:00] | m1ke: | the machine my 350 is in is nowhere powerful enough to play them without some hardware acceleration |
| [18:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm a month behind on thee ivtv-dev maillist list so I just read through and saw the yuv stuff. Should make for a surge of 350 purchases :) |
| [18:52:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: hehe |
| [18:52:00] | laga: | ebay sucks sometimes. *sigh* |
| [18:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | ebay sucks a lot |
| [18:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | people rip you off with shipping |
| [18:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | OR wont ship to anywhere but the US |
| [18:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | I use to be a big ebay fan, but now it's a pain trying to get anything from there |
| [18:53:00] | laga: | i ordered a set top box and some prepaid paytv account (from an different seller). i got both from the same seller and thought they made a mistake, but it seems that its one seller with two different accounts. |
| [18:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | laga: Sounds shady to me |
| [18:54:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: well, we have our own ebay here in germany. but indeed, i paid 25 euro for 70 euro worth of stuff. |
| [18:54:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: well, i dont care. they should have just put the stuff in the same box. |
| [18:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh yeah |
| [18:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | they want that extra shipping money :) |
| [18:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | I miss the days where people would go out and find out exactly what it would cost to ship to you. now everyone wants an exacty amount no matter where you are |
| [18:55:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: odd, though. the guys i got the box from had a perfect german, and the smart card guys...well, it was more like hick ;) |
| [18:55:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: they're "professionals". |
| [18:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [18:55:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: but hey, 1 euro for 12 months of paytv and bad. |
| [18:55:00] | laga: | ain't |
| [18:55:00] | laga: | * |
| [18:56:00] | laga: | sorry, spent the whole day in france, my english has suffered ;) |
| [18:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [18:56:00] | laga: | heh. sorry, i'm talkative ;) |
| [18:56:00] | chapin: | can't get past first screen of mythtvsetup http://pastebin.ca/11999 <-- someone please take a look |
| [18:56:00] | m1ke: | some would say ain't is poor english ;) |
| [18:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | I English is always bad, no need to appologize |
| [18:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | hehe |
| [18:57:00] | laga: | m1ke: i *never* calimed that my english was good :> |
| [18:58:00] | laga: | step 1: unplug the set top box from the network step 2: try to surf to its web interface step 3: slap yourself. |
| [18:58:00] | laga: | repeast as needed. |
| [18:58:00] | laga: | *sigh* |
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| [19:04:00] | Esotericisms: | hey all |
| [19:05:00] | cortezdapimp: | you mean poor english. |
| [19:05:00] | cortezdapimp: | ;) |
| [19:05:00] | cortezdapimp: | oh wait |
| [19:05:00] | cortezdapimp: | nm |
| [19:05:00] | cortezdapimp: | i'm on crack |
| [19:05:00] | Esotericisms: | Beirdo, you around? |
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| [19:16:00] | chapin: | this channel is just loads of help |
| [19:17:00] | laga: | chapin: yep |
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| [19:19:00] | chapin: | a load of something anyway |
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| [19:20:00] | m1ke: | mmm bitter |
| [19:20:00] | sunilonln: | anyone know how long it will be until .18.1 is up on atrpms? |
| [19:20:00] | laga: | oh, i didnt notice his sarcasm. |
| [19:20:00] | laga: | idiot. ;) |
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| [19:27:00] | Esotericisms: | I don't think my modprobe.conf is working for my pvr ... first off my ivtv and lirc don't load on startup ... second I can't change channels ... can you help? |
| [19:28:00] | mirak: | WARNING: couldn't find framebuffer base address, try manual |
| [19:28:00] | mirak: | configuration ("v4l-conf -a <addr>") |
| [19:28:00] | mirak: | I have a problem with xawtv |
| [19:28:00] | mirak: | it says me this |
| [19:28:00] | m1ke: | mine don't load either. i load everything via rc.local |
| [19:29:00] | m1ke: | i kinda like it because i can rename rc.local and reboot and load everything manually when i'm testing new drivers or troubleshooting something |
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| [19:42:00] | Esotericisms: | well I guess after enough restart things just start working |
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| [19:43:00] | Snecklifter: | it would seem so. I just got mythmusic grabbing from freedb |
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| [19:49:00] | Esotericisms: | http://www.mini-itx.com/news/32569733/ <- this is how I am building my next mythtv box (front or backend) |
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| [19:53:00] | Skif: | this is weird... for some reason, mythtv is recording like it's in fast-forward. |
| [19:54:00] | Skif: | the summary says it's a half-hour show, but there's only 7 or 9 minutes of it. |
| [19:55:00] | Skif: | the first, oh, 20–30 seconds are normal, and then it just skips forward |
| [19:55:00] | Skif: | until the end, of course. Any ideas? |
| [19:55:00] | m1ke: | i had a show get all messed up by commflagging once |
| [19:55:00] | m1ke: | except it was the opposite |
| [19:55:00] | m1ke: | it was an hour show, but when playing, it thought it was 4 hours long |
| [19:56:00] | m1ke: | kept skipping back in time at ad breaks |
| [19:56:00] | Skif: | When I first hit "i", it says it's like 287.43 minutes long, but if I wait a second, it goes back to 2–3 minutes orso |
| [19:57:00] | Esotericisms: | anyone know how to set up the IR transmitter to work with cable box and tv? (transmitter that comes withe the PVR-150) |
| [19:57:00] | m1ke: | how big is the .nuv file, does it look like the right size for 30 mins? |
| [20:08:00] | Skif: | this |
| [20:09:00] | Skif: | mike: how big should it be? |
| [20:09:00] | Skif: | I'm not used to what shows encode to ye |
| [20:09:00] | Skif: | t |
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| [20:11:00] | Skif: | does 77M seem right? |
| [20:11:00] | laga: | no. |
| [20:14:00] | Skif: | looking at shows recorded today, 30-minute shows seem to range from 77M to 340M |
| [20:18:00] | sphing: | GreyFoxx, you there? |
| [20:18:00] | Skif: | the 340M show, at least, I think it's the one (how can I tell for sure which files correspond to which recordings?) still skips around |
| [20:20:00] | Beirdo: | ah WTF? |
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| [20:20:00] | Skif: | I suspect, but I'm not sure, that this is related to why trying to watch tv gives me a dialog saying the connection to the backend was lost (both are on the same machine) |
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| [20:23:00] | m1ke: | skif the size really depends on how you are recording... my recordings take up 1.1gb per half hour |
| [20:24:00] | sphing: | wow |
| [20:24:00] | m1ke: | yeah it eats the disk right up :) |
| [20:24:00] | Esotericisms: | hey Beirdo, I have found that the solutions to all my problems are just to restart my system .. everything works after enough reboots |
| [20:25:00] | m1ke: | the easiest way i've found to map nuv name to which show it is is through mythweb |
| [20:25:00] | sphing: | anyone using an epia board? |
| [20:25:00] | ** Skif has some mythfrontend output at http://www.pastebin.com/285746 if anyone can glean something from that ** | |
| [20:25:00] | m1ke: | if you hover over the screenshot of the recording it has the nuv name in the link that it points to |
| [20:25:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:26:00] | sphing: | or a niveus remot? |
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| [20:26:00] | sphing: | *remote ? |
| [20:26:00] | m1ke: | (btw what good is that link? does anything understand myth://?) |
| [20:27:00] | ** Beirdo slaps himself with the trout ** | |
| [20:27:00] | Esotericisms: | Beirdo, you know how to get the ir transmitter that comes with the pvr-150 setup to work with a cablebox tv? |
| [20:27:00] | Beirdo: | dumbass let / get full |
| [20:27:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [20:27:00] | Beirdo: | I don't have a PVR-150 |
| [20:27:00] | iggy: | Esotericisms: the transmitter doesn't work |
| [20:27:00] | Beirdo: | and I don't have a cablebox tv |
| [20:27:00] | Beirdo: | and I don't use lirc |
| [20:30:00] | BobJensen: | I am using fedora core 3, Does a mythtv backend master or slave need to boot to "runlevel 3"? |
| [20:31:00] | BobJensen: | Errr |
| [20:31:00] | BobJensen: | can it boot to runlevel 3 I should say |
| [20:31:00] | Beirdo: | why not? |
| [20:31:00] | m1ke: | unless you really want to waste resources on X |
| [20:31:00] | Beirdo: | even if you do |
| [20:31:00] | BobJensen: | Beirdo: well felt logical to me that it would not but just though I would ask |
| [20:31:00] | Beirdo: | you can start X from a command line |
| [20:32:00] | BobJensen: | Man, I am not making any sense |
| [20:32:00] | BaZiL: | is there a package for updating mythtv to 0.18.1 ? for fedora ? |
| [20:32:00] | Beirdo: | go look on the site, BaZiL |
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| [20:32:00] | BobJensen: | Beirdo: well felt logical to me that it would not need X but just though I would ask |
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| [20:46:00] | Esotericisms: | question, would anyone be interested in a myth plugin that will let you schedule programs via your cell phones web browser? |
| [20:46:00] | laga: | Esotericisms: mythweb? |
| [20:46:00] | Esotericisms: | from your cell phone web browser |
| [20:46:00] | Esotericisms: | not a computer web browser .. |
| [20:46:00] | Beirdo: | Esotericisms: already is part of mythweb |
| [20:47:00] | Beirdo: | and no, I wouldn't be interested :) |
| [20:47:00] | Esotericisms: | really? hrm ... didn't know that |
| [20:48:00] | Beirdo: | it might not work quite right, but it's being worked on, last I heard |
| [20:48:00] | Esotericisms: | hrm .. who is the developer? |
| [20:48:00] | m1ke: | i use it a lot to schedule and manage recordings.... i don't think it'd be too much of a stretch to make it cell-browser friendly |
| [20:49:00] | Beirdo: | there's already a WAP theme last I looked |
| [20:49:00] | Beirdo: | xris is the main guy for mythweb, but he's on vacation |
| [20:49:00] | Esotericisms: | hrm .. cool |
| [20:49:00] | laga: | slacker |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | laga: hehe. have another beer. |
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| [20:50:00] | laga: | Beirdo: no beer for me, i'm on duty. |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | duty? |
| [20:50:00] | Esotericisms: | Beirdo, you military? |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | have a beer |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | Esotericisms: hell no |
| [20:50:00] | laga: | Beirdo: and i'm out of beer, i might add. |
| [20:50:00] | Esotericisms: | er.. |
| [20:50:00] | Esotericisms: | laga, |
| [20:50:00] | Esotericisms: | I mean |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | Ah, well, that's a bigger issue |
| [20:50:00] | Snecklifter: | would anyone be interested in a mythplugin that interfaces with shoutcast to get audio streams? |
| [20:51:00] | laga: | Beirdo: but i had a guiness for lunch. |
| [20:51:00] | laga: | Snecklifter: me. |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | Snecklifter: already exists, I think |
| [20:51:00] | laga: | Snecklifter: integrate it in mythmusic ;) |
| [20:51:00] | laga: | Beirdo: really? cool |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | mythstream or something |
| [20:51:00] | Snecklifter: | thats what i thought |
| [20:51:00] | Snecklifter: | its unnofficial thnough |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | so what? |
| [20:52:00] | Snecklifter: | dirty unofficial plugin looks for clean safe home |
| [20:52:00] | Esotericisms: | what is mythstream? |
| [20:52:00] | laga: | Snecklifter: adopt it. |
| [20:52:00] | Snecklifter: | i might |
| [20:52:00] | Snecklifter: | whats it coded in? |
| [20:52:00] | Beirdo: | Esotericisms: there's this nice invention known as google |
| [20:52:00] | Esotericisms: | kiss my ass |
| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | no thanks |
| [20:53:00] | Esotericisms: | :) |
| [20:53:00] | Snecklifter: | go on |
| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | you're not my type |
| [20:53:00] | Snecklifter: | okay, kiss mine then |
| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [20:53:00] | Snecklifter: | ah well |
| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | I'll kick both of them for ya though |
| [20:53:00] | Snecklifter: | cant blame a man for tryin |
| [20:54:00] | laga: | excuse me, i gotta puke. |
| [20:54:00] | Beirdo: | ?! |
| [20:54:00] | Bob-Laptop: | lol |
| [20:54:00] | Esotericisms: | video streaming .. interesting |
| [20:54:00] | ** Beirdo puts plastic wrap across the toilet bowl ** | |
| [20:55:00] | Snecklifter: | http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~moongies/streamtuned.html |
| [20:55:00] | m1ke: | mythstream == mythstreamtv? |
| [20:55:00] | Beirdo: | m1ke: don't think so |
| [20:55:00] | sunilonln: | mythstream looks interesting |
| [20:55:00] | Beirdo: | two people picked almost the same name |
| [20:56:00] | m1ke: | k |
| [20:56:00] | Beirdo: | the one Snecklifter posted is the one I was thinking of |
| [20:56:00] | Snecklifter: | dirty old c, i got no chance |
| [20:57:00] | Snecklifter: | java or python maybe |
| [20:57:00] | Beirdo: | Q: Why is MythStream not an official plugin? |
| [20:57:00] | Beirdo: | A: Not my decision, so don't ask me ... |
| [20:57:00] | Beirdo: | what a damn cop-out |
| [20:57:00] | Snecklifter: | politics |
| [20:57:00] | Beirdo: | why not say what the issue is |
| [20:57:00] | Snecklifter: | ask xirc |
| [20:57:00] | Snecklifter: | xris |
| [20:57:00] | Beirdo: | hmm? |
| [20:58:00] | Beirdo: | mythstream has nothing to do with mythweb |
| [20:58:00] | Snecklifter: | if he's the lead dev |
| [20:58:00] | Snecklifter: | who's lead on mythtv? |
| [20:58:00] | Snecklifter: | ask them |
| [20:58:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [20:58:00] | Snecklifter: | bah black sheep |
| [20:58:00] | Beirdo: | the lameass who wrote that page knows, he should just say it |
| [20:58:00] | Esotericisms: | hey Beirdo, do you know how to or where I could read on how to setup the IR transmitter for my PVR150, so I can change channels on my tv with my pvr remote? |
| [20:59:00] | Beirdo: | Esotericisms: google |
| [20:59:00] | Beirdo: | I think someone already told you today that it's not supported |
| [20:59:00] | Snecklifter: | whats wrong with lircd? |
| [20:59:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Esotericisms: search for IR Blaster |
| [21:00:00] | Snecklifter: | ah, on your tv |
| [21:00:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Esotericisms: on http://google.com/linux |
| [21:00:00] | sunilonln: | Esotericisms: you would have to map the remote keys to the ir blaster |
| [21:00:00] | sunilonln: | i have no idea how that would work |
| [21:00:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Esotericisms: I have the same cards, have not looked at it yet |
| [21:00:00] | sunilonln: | tell me if you figure it out :) |
| [21:00:00] | gnome42: | Is anyone here using with an Asus A7N8X-X(nforce2) motherboard? ( I am having stability issues ) |
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| [21:01:00] | Beirdo: | gnome42: I have the A7N8X-VM400 (I think it is) |
| [21:01:00] | gnome42: | Beirdo: nforce on that one? |
| [21:01:00] | Beirdo: | nforce2 |
| [21:02:00] | Beirdo: | http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/myMyth/production.php |
| [21:02:00] | gnome42: | Beirdo: mine is nforce2 as well, are you using a bttv card in it? |
| [21:02:00] | ** Beirdo points at the URL ** | |
| [21:02:00] | Beirdo: | my board is the microATX version of the one you have |
| [21:03:00] | Esotericisms: | alright ... I will look thanks Bob-Laptop |
| [21:04:00] | gnome42: | Beirdo: Hmmm, 3 x PVR no bttv on yours, I am using a PVR250 and a bttv card. |
| [21:04:00] | gnome42: | Beirdo: Do you have apic, acpi, lapic enabled? |
| [21:04:00] | Beirdo: | I dunno |
| [21:05:00] | CyberKnet: | *yawn* |
| [21:06:00] | gnome42: | Beirdo: you probably do then. Darn, I am a little frustrated... |
| [21:06:00] | CyberKnet: | my board is nforce 2 |
| [21:06:00] | CyberKnet: | but I'm 2xPVR |
| [21:06:00] | CyberKnet: | no bttv |
| [21:06:00] | Beirdo: | [root@pint root]# cat /proc/cmdline |
| [21:06:00] | Beirdo: | ro root=LABEL=/ hdc=ide-scsi vga=0x312 rhgb apm=off mem=nopentium |
| [21:07:00] | gnome42: | Hmm, what is that mem=nopentium business I wonder |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | 3: 743444583 XT-PIC eth0, ivtv0, ivtv1, ivtv2 |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | all 3 of em and the ethernet on the same IRQ |
| [21:08:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: nice =) |
| [21:08:00] | gnome42: | Beirdo: lol |
| [21:08:00] | gnome42: | Beirdo: It looks like you aren't using apic |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | looks that way :) |
| [21:08:00] | gnome42: | which kernel? |
| [21:09:00] | Beirdo: | 2.4.22–1.2199.nptl_52.rhfc1.at |
| [21:09:00] | ** CyberKnet laughs at Beirdo's old, stable kernel ** | |
| [21:09:00] | CyberKnet: | hmmm. |
| [21:09:00] | CyberKnet: | ;) |
| [21:09:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:09:00] | gnome42: | Ok, maybe my kernel is too new :) |
| [21:09:00] | ** Beirdo laughs at CyberKnet ** | |
| [21:10:00] | CyberKnet: | 2.6.10–1.770_FC2 |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | FC2, you poor bastard |
| [21:10:00] | ** CyberKnet is exceptionally happy on FC2 ** | |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | FC2 resembles a sheep? |
| [21:10:00] | gnome42: | mem=nopentium [BUGS=IA-32] Disable usage of 4MB pages for kernel |
| [21:10:00] | gnome42: | memory. |
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| [21:10:00] | CyberKnet: | certainly have no desire to move to FC3 |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | neither do I actually |
| [21:10:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: you ass =) |
| [21:11:00] | ** j-rod pets FC4 ** | |
| [21:11:00] | CyberKnet: | No desire to move to FC4, but unlike FC3 no specific desire to not move to it... =) |
| [21:11:00] | ** Beirdo pets the hoary hedgehog ** | |
| [21:12:00] | Beirdo: | as long as the ubuntu people don't go with "choked chicken" |
| [21:13:00] | ** CyberKnet neglects to pet anything whorey for fear of catching something ** | |
| [21:13:00] | Beirdo: | that's hoary, not whorey... it's not a sheep |
| [21:13:00] | CyberKnet: | Yes. I know. |
| [21:13:00] | CyberKnet: | But it's a fun pun, dammit. |
| [21:13:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [21:13:00] | CyberKnet: | #@! |
| [21:13:00] | CyberKnet: | ;) |
| [21:13:00] | Beirdo: | ..|._ |
| [21:13:00] | tuxristo: | j-rod, what do you think of having debug enabled RPMs available for ppl to try when they need to submit a backtrace, but don't know how (or don't want) to compile from source |
| [21:14:00] | CyberKnet: | ^> |
| [21:14:00] | Beirdo: | tuxristo: good call. |
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| [21:15:00] | laga: | doesnt chutt want backtraces only for CVS? |
| [21:16:00] | Beirdo: | I dunno, ask him. heh |
| [21:16:00] | Beirdo: | I don't recall seeing that in the docs though |
| [21:16:00] | Beirdo: | hey, j-rod: you should see what happens when / is full on a myth box :) |
| [21:16:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: half of what isaac things though is not in the docs =) |
| [21:17:00] | CyberKnet: | s/things/thinks/ |
| [21:17:00] | Beirdo: | was catching up on my Water Rats last night :) |
| [21:17:00] | CyberKnet: | blegh |
| [21:17:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:17:00] | Beirdo: | better than American Idol and all that shite |
| [21:17:00] | CyberKnet: | *cough*hack*cough*tv*cough*crap*cough* |
| [21:18:00] | laga: | well, it's the docs and not isaacs blog ;) |
| [21:18:00] | Beirdo: | especially when they have beach shots. hehe |
| [21:18:00] | CyberKnet: | At least baywatch had swimsuit scenes, and lots of nice looking girls running in said swimsuits. |
| [21:19:00] | CyberKnet: | water rats... cops in boats. |
| [21:19:00] | CyberKnet: | yeah. good stuff there. |
| [21:19:00] | Beirdo: | there are plenty of beach scenes |
| [21:19:00] | CyberKnet: | Definitely count me in to watch that. |
| [21:19:00] | tuxristo: | laga, well debug enabled automated nightly rpms then? |
| [21:19:00] | Beirdo: | what do you know, you never watch it :) |
| [21:19:00] | laga: | tuxristo: sounds good to me. i wonder if axel would like that... ;) |
| [21:19:00] | Beirdo: | and Baywatch was 90% silicone |
| [21:20:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: That's because six years ago when it came out I watched a few episodes and realized it for the crap tourism catch that it was. |
| [21:20:00] | gnome42: | how about whoring sheep in swimming suits on the beach! :) |
| [21:20:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: silicon ... fat ... it's all soft and squishy. |
| [21:20:00] | Beirdo: | heh. |
| [21:20:00] | laga: | you're so scottish |
| [21:20:00] | CyberKnet: | silicone |
| [21:20:00] | CyberKnet: | even |
| [21:20:00] | CyberKnet: | silicon is not soft and squishy. |
| [21:21:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: somehow I dont see Axel being thrilled about yet another configuration to build every time there's a release =P" |
| [21:22:00] | CyberKnet: | *ping* |
| [21:22:00] | Beirdo: | got another couple episodes to watch |
| [21:22:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:23:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: I need some non-US, non-Canadian crap TV to watch |
| [21:23:00] | CyberKnet: | So import Home and Away |
| [21:23:00] | CyberKnet: | there's some good australian drama |
| [21:23:00] | CyberKnet: | or A Country Practice. it's old, but it was good. |
| [21:24:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:24:00] | Beirdo: | I'm not gonna import squat |
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| [21:24:00] | CyberKnet: | But for $DEITY sake, not Neighbors or Water Rats |
| [21:24:00] | CyberKnet: | they're just awful. |
| [21:24:00] | Beirdo: | bah, what do you know? |
| [21:24:00] | CyberKnet: | good TV when I see it. |
| [21:24:00] | CyberKnet: | or rather, bad TV when I see it. |
| [21:24:00] | Beirdo: | that would be 99% of what's on |
| [21:25:00] | CyberKnet: | Yes. |
| [21:25:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: yep ;) |
| [21:25:00] | CyberKnet: | Including Water Rats. |
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| [21:25:00] | Beirdo: | heh. bah |
| [21:25:00] | CyberKnet: | And definitely Neigbours |
| [21:25:00] | CyberKnet: | gah. |
| [21:25:00] | Beirdo: | it's no crappier than most |
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| [21:26:00] | CyberKnet: | I would rather watch a 12 hour back to back Seinfeld marathon than one more episode of Water Rats. |
| [21:26:00] | CyberKnet: | With NO POTTY BREAKS! |
| [21:26:00] | CyberKnet: | and a minimum 1 beer per hour |
| [21:26:00] | Beirdo: | now that's crappy TV |
| [21:26:00] | CyberKnet: | and I don't even like BEER. |
| [21:26:00] | CyberKnet: | and i LOVE to SHOUT! |
| [21:26:00] | Beirdo: | you can't truly be Aussie then |
| [21:26:00] | laga: | you dont like beer? |
| [21:26:00] | laga: | o_O |
| [21:27:00] | Beirdo: | poser |
| [21:27:00] | laga: | an odd specimen |
| [21:27:00] | CyberKnet: | real aussies just liquor instead of blood. And that I do. |
| [21:27:00] | ** CyberKnet can hold his liquor better than anyone he knows. ** | |
| [21:27:00] | Beirdo: | ah go shag your dingo :) |
| [21:27:00] | gnome42: | hahah |
| [21:27:00] | Beirdo: | you ain't seen me drink then |
| [21:27:00] | Beirdo: | mind you, I likely have a few lbs on ya |
| [21:28:00] | CyberKnet: | Doubtful. You're a touch shorter, and we're both "stout" =P" |
| [21:28:00] | CyberKnet: | *grin* |
| [21:28:00] | laga: | reminds me that i have to loose weight for the summer ;) |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | 6'1", 350lbs on a good day... |
| [21:28:00] | Beirdo: | I think I can hold my own |
| [21:29:00] | CyberKnet: | aaah. Yes. You have me beat by about 55lbs. |
| [21:29:00] | laga: | 180cm@85kg. use real units! ;) |
| [21:29:00] | CyberKnet: | 6'4" |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | don't make me sit on you |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | laga: learn the nicer units. humans come in feet & inches, pounds :) |
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| [21:29:00] | laga: | *shiver* |
| [21:29:00] | gecko is now known as GeckoFiend | |
| [21:29:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: Learn to use google ;) |
| [21:29:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v GeckoFiend | |
| [21:29:00] | Beirdo: | the only thing I use non-metric for basically |
| [21:30:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: naw, to lazy to use google ;) |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | heya, GeckoFiend |
| [21:30:00] | CyberKnet: | and too lazy to spell properly, too. =) |
| [21:30:00] | tstm: | SI units are the way to go. Not some historical relics. |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | blah blah blah |
| [21:30:00] | CyberKnet: | sup Gecko =) |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | I like knowing both |
| [21:30:00] | Beirdo: | makes dealing with SI-challenged Yanks a lot easier |
| [21:30:00] | CyberKnet: | tstm: You're preaching to the choir there... australia is all metric and I had to come over here to the USA. gack. |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | Canada's all metric |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | but we know both systems, especially my generation |
| [21:31:00] | Beirdo: | my parents are on the old system... |
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| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | think I found my next watch |
| [21:32:00] | Beirdo: | http://www.uncommongoods.com/item/item.jsp?itemId=13601 |
| [21:33:00] | tstm: | Finland has been using the metric system foralmost 50 years, I've never heard of anyone actually using an old system here. |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, but who knows of anything from Finland? :) hehe |
| [21:34:00] | stoffel_: | linux anyone? |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | shhh |
| [21:34:00] | Beirdo: | quit spoiling my fun |
| [21:34:00] | tstm: | ;P |
| [21:34:00] | stoffel_: | ups, sorry |
| [21:35:00] | Beirdo: | and don't forget the reindeer. |
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| [21:35:00] | Beirdo: | and the hot chicks, but that's another issue altogether |
| [21:36:00] | Beirdo: | Canada's been metric since the mid 70s |
| [21:36:00] | iggy: | I like the metric system, it makes my penis seem larger than it is |
| [21:36:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:37:00] | Beirdo: | I like metric, it makes calculations easier |
| [21:37:00] | tstm: | Hm I have never been to Canada. I probably should visit some place there.. What's a good place to visit if visiting canada? |
| [21:37:00] | Beirdo: | what kinda place? |
| [21:37:00] | Beirdo: | for cities: Quebec City, Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal |
| [21:37:00] | Beirdo: | or Ottawa :) |
| [21:37:00] | gnome42: | Skip Ottawa :) |
| [21:37:00] | tstm: | Umm. An english-speaking one. I don't do french. |
| [21:38:00] | Beirdo: | Ottawa is a nice city, gnome42 |
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| [21:38:00] | Beirdo: | well, skip Quebec City then, they are French as it gets in Canada |
| [21:38:00] | Beirdo: | a beautiful city though |
| [21:38:00] | Beirdo: | and Montreal's fairly French too |
| [21:38:00] | Beirdo: | I personally hate Toronto even though I live here |
| [21:39:00] | tstm: | Haha. What's wrong with Toronto? |
| [21:39:00] | Beirdo: | too big and impersonal |
| [21:39:00] | Beirdo: | and the people think that Toronto's the most important part of Canada, and it pisses me off ;) |
| [21:39:00] | Bob-Laptop: | I went to Winnipeg as a child |
| [21:39:00] | Beirdo: | ooh, winterpeg, never been there |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | now for pretty sites, Banff and Jasper would be high on my list |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | sights rather |
| [21:40:00] | ** Beirdo slaps himself ** | |
| [21:40:00] | tstm: | Beirdo: Hm. How much up north is Toront? Is it summer there already?-) |
| [21:40:00] | Bob-Laptop: | I would need special permission to go to Canada legally now |
| [21:40:00] | tstm: | +o |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | Canada's frigging huge though |
| [21:40:00] | ** Beirdo raises an eyebrow at Bob-Laptop ** | |
| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | tstm: it's spring |
| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | we are further south than any of Finland, I think |
| [21:41:00] | iggy: | my brother went to Canada once..... |
| [21:41:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Beirdo: Differences in laws between The Great White North and the US |
| [21:41:00] | Beirdo: | although the weather's fairly similar in much of Canada and Finland |
| [21:41:00] | iggy: | in a stolen truck with 2 minors |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | Bob-Laptop: I'm not gonna ask what silly thing you got caught doing then. |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | the trick is... don't get caught |
| [21:42:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Beirdo: Young and stupid, Drunken Driving |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | ah |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | they'll overlook that eventually |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | or just go into politics |
| [21:42:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | GW Bush is allowed into Canada in spite of numerous DUI |
| [21:43:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Beirdo: Yeah just need a magistrate to approve it, Have not had a drink in 8 years |
| [21:43:00] | tstm: | Beirdo: So I hear. That's probably one of the reasons I've never been to Canada. It seems like a place just like home. I'd like it different. |
| [21:43:00] | Beirdo: | I hope that as soon as he's finally out of power, our immigration people stop him at the border |
| [21:44:00] | tstm: | Canada even has two official languages, just like we do. |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | tstm: it's fairly similar to Finland in a lot of ways from what I understand |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | including the big bad neighbour |
| [21:44:00] | tstm: | So they tell me. |
| [21:44:00] | tstm: | Well, your neighbour probably is bad in a very different way. =/ |
| [21:44:00] | Beirdo: | we had a fair number of Finnish chicks in our high school |
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| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [21:45:00] | tstm: | =) |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | tstm: not as different as you'd think |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | we are under their shadow just like you're under Russia's shadow |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | sucks |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | just like Austria's under Germany's shadow for that matter |
| [21:46:00] | Beirdo: | and, we have Finland to thank for nordic skiing :) |
| [21:46:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:46:00] | j-rod: | tuxristo: yeah, debug rpms might not be a bad idea |
| [21:46:00] | j-rod: | Beirdo, yeah, saw about full / over on #mythtv. Ew. |
| [21:46:00] | tstm: | Russia is very unpredictable and you can't get any reliable information what's actually going on there. At least with USA you can fairly well try to keep up with the politics and such. |
| [21:47:00] | Beirdo: | tstm: true, as best the biased media tells us |
| [21:47:00] | Beirdo: | and the USA hasn't annexed Canada in the last 100 years either |
| [21:47:00] | Beirdo: | so... |
| [21:47:00] | laga: | Beirdo: austria under germany's shadow? |
| [21:47:00] | Beirdo: | you're right, not quite as bad as Russia :) |
| [21:47:00] | Beirdo: | laga: yes |
| [21:47:00] | Beirdo: | big time |
| [21:47:00] | Beirdo: | they are the little brother |
| [21:47:00] | j-rod: | Beirdo, you're next on Bush's hit list. You guys have lots of oil up there... ;) |
| [21:47:00] | laga: | Beirdo: nowadays? ;) |
| [21:48:00] | laga: | Beirdo: umm, ok. |
| [21:48:00] | Esotericisms: | is there any way to get mythtv to recognize "movie" channels and/or digital channels? |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: yeah, well... Fuck Bush |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [21:48:00] | j-rod: | my sentiments as well |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | he'll be gone soon enough |
| [21:48:00] | ** Esotericisms goes back to minding his own business ** | |
| [21:48:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Can we avoid politics? |
| [21:48:00] | Beirdo: | laga: trust me, Austrians HATE being mistaken for Germans |
| [21:48:00] | j-rod: | hehe |
| [21:49:00] | Beirdo: | just like most Canadians hate being mistaken for Americans |
| [21:49:00] | laga: | heh |
| [21:49:00] | tstm: | j-rod: I hear they're chasing over North-Korea nowadays.. something about nuclear warheads. Canadians need not to worry..yet. |
| [21:49:00] | Beirdo: | we may share a language and 80% of our culture, but we ain't the same |
| [21:50:00] | Beirdo: | Bob-Laptop: what politics? hehe |
| [21:50:00] | Esotericisms: | is there any way to get mythtv to recognize "movie" channels and/or digital channels? |
| [21:50:00] | j-rod: | yeah, probably should do something about NK before we invade Canada... |
| [21:50:00] | Beirdo: | Esotericisms: yeah, by repeatedly asking |
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| [21:50:00] | Beirdo: | if you don't get the guide info, you don't get the info |
| [21:50:00] | ** j-rod hands Beirdo a freshly caught salmon ** | |
| [21:50:00] | Beirdo: | mmmm. |
| [21:51:00] | ** Beirdo swings it to test the heft... not bad ** | |
| [21:51:00] | Esotericisms: | I get the guide info ... my pvr just shows a scrambled channel |
| [21:51:00] | Beirdo: | then you can't record it |
| [21:51:00] | Beirdo: | if you can see it without mythtv on your TV, you can see it with mythtv |
| [21:51:00] | Beirdo: | instead of the TV, plug in your capture card |
| [21:51:00] | j-rod: | at least, not without piping it out of the cable box into an svid port on a capture card |
| [21:52:00] | Beirdo: | right |
| [21:52:00] | Esotericisms: | that is what I was wondering about |
| [21:52:00] | Beirdo: | however you'd watch it on your TV, that's how you plug it into your capture card |
| [21:52:00] | j-rod: | almost 2pm.... maybe I should go find some lunch... |
| [21:52:00] | Beirdo: | almost time for me to go meet my mom |
| [21:52:00] | Bob-Laptop: | j-rod: good idea |
| [21:53:00] | j-rod: | no doubt, bbiab |
| [21:53:00] | Beirdo: | taking her to a Sarah McLachlan concert tonight |
| [21:53:00] | CyberKnet: | almost four pm. maybe I should go find some lunch... |
| [21:53:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: ooooh. jealousy abounds =) |
| [21:54:00] | ** CyberKnet like Sarah McLachlan ** | |
| [21:54:00] | CyberKnet: | almost as much as I like Natalie Merchant. |
| [21:54:00] | Beirdo: | the nice thing about the US having term limits... you can't have dumbass presidents for too long. unfortunately, you can't have the good ones for long either |
| [21:54:00] | Beirdo: | you pick what kind they are :) |
| [21:54:00] | CyberKnet: | heh =) |
| [21:54:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: yeah, I like the music, and I just HAD to go :) |
| [21:54:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:54:00] | Esotericisms: | hey j-rod, you ever have an issue with your remote, that makes it not work when you are pointing directly at the receiver? |
| [21:55:00] | CyberKnet: | the problem is what is good and what is bad is so subjective. |
| [21:55:00] | Esotericisms: | or you are too close to the receiever? |
| [21:55:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: true. and what's good for the US isn't necessarily good for the world... |
| [21:55:00] | Beirdo: | and so on. |
| [21:55:00] | CyberKnet: | and that a popular majority is not necessarily the real majority. |
| [21:55:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [21:55:00] | CyberKnet: | or at least, the majority that counts. |
| [21:55:00] | ** CyberKnet is a huge fan australia's system ** | |
| [21:56:00] | Beirdo: | especially when the president got the vote of 30.5% of the eligible voters |
| [21:56:00] | Beirdo: | just sickening when you think of it |
| [21:56:00] | Beirdo: | 40% just didn't show up |
| [21:57:00] | Beirdo: | Yeah, I think the Aussie system's a better balance |
| [21:57:00] | Bob-Laptop: | 40% chose to not have a voice, it is one of our freedoms |
| [21:57:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:57:00] | Beirdo: | it shouldn't be |
| [21:57:00] | Beirdo: | there is no democracy when people don't vote |
| [21:57:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Everyone should be forced at gun point to vote? |
| [21:58:00] | Beirdo: | who said anything about guns? |
| [21:58:00] | CyberKnet: | Bob-Laptop: cast a ballot. blank, or not. but cast a ballot. |
| [21:58:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: educate the man :) |
| [21:58:00] | Bob-Laptop: | well that is what it would take to get some to the polls |
| [21:58:00] | Beirdo: | even if you show up, get marked off as being there and leave |
| [21:58:00] | Beirdo: | you STILL have an obligation to vote |
| [21:58:00] | CyberKnet: | Bob-Laptop: compulsory suffrage is not the ball and chain they make it out to be. |
| [21:59:00] | Beirdo: | if you don't care enough to vote, you have no right to live in a democracy in my mind |
| [21:59:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Beirdo: Trust me I take my right to vote very seriously |
| [21:59:00] | Beirdo: | if you're sick, that's different |
| [21:59:00] | CyberKnet: | Bob-Laptop: people in australia are free to not vote. They just pay a fine. |
| [21:59:00] | Bob-Laptop: | I have voted in every election since my age of majority |
| [21:59:00] | Beirdo: | good, not everyone does |
| [22:00:00] | Beirdo: | I also have voted in every election I was eligible to vote in |
| [22:00:00] | CyberKnet: | I should say the same, but... =) |
| [22:00:00] | Beirdo: | and will again shortly when we kick our government out on it's ass |
| [22:00:00] | CyberKnet: | I've been overseas a long time now. |
| [22:00:00] | CyberKnet: | I should vote by mail, but I dont. |
| [22:00:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: no absentee ballots? |
| [22:00:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Even the "little elections" are important |
| [22:00:00] | ** Beirdo agrees with Bob-Laptop ** | |
| [22:01:00] | Beirdo: | that's what democracy's about |
| [22:01:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: not informed enough about the elections to make a responsible decision. I should vote by absentee ballot. I just dont. |
| [22:01:00] | CyberKnet: | See, I also am not required to by law because of my overseas status. |
| [22:01:00] | Bob-Laptop: | In Liberia there will be the first free elections coming up this october |
| [22:01:00] | CyberKnet: | I should, but I dont. |
| [22:01:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: well, you don't really live there now anyways, so that's a bit more excusable :) |
| [22:01:00] | Bob-Laptop: | and they are not allowing Absentee ballots |
| [22:02:00] | Bob-Laptop: | 50% of the citizens are not in liberia |
| [22:02:00] | CyberKnet: | ouch. |
| [22:02:00] | Beirdo: | I don't think democracy's necessarily the be-all and end-all of political systems, but it's what we have (to some extent), so we have the duty to participate |
| [22:02:00] | CyberKnet: | I think democracy works pretty well. |
| [22:02:00] | Bob-Laptop: | http://liberianabsenteeballot.org/ has more info if you are interested |
| [22:03:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Beirdo: I agree |
| [22:03:00] | Beirdo: | CyberKnet: we don't truly have democracy, and it's a good thing, or nothing would ever get done |
| [22:03:00] | Beirdo: | true democracy requires the people to vote on every damn decision |
| [22:03:00] | Beirdo: | blech |
| [22:04:00] | Beirdo: | what we have is a decent system when we let it work |
| [22:04:00] | CyberKnet: | so then your representative democracy works... *shrug* |
| [22:04:00] | Beirdo: | but 40% not showing up to vote is just sad |
| [22:04:00] | Beirdo: | and Canada's just as bad |
| [22:05:00] | iggy: | I don't vote |
| [22:05:00] | Beirdo: | we had 30% not show up last federal election |
| [22:05:00] | iggy: | I'd rather bitch about other people's bad decisions, than take any responsibility myself |
| [22:05:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:05:00] | CyberKnet: | australia would shit if 30% of eligible voters didn't show up =) |
| [22:05:00] | CyberKnet: | that would be ... catastrophic =) |
| [22:05:00] | Beirdo: | just think of the fine income |
| [22:05:00] | CyberKnet: | of course, the flip side is that you get a lot of Joe SixPack's who are actually influenced by television commercials. |
| [22:06:00] | CyberKnet: | *shudder* |
| [22:06:00] | iggy: | mmmm, 6-pack |
| [22:06:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, but that's who the government is supposed to be representing |
| [22:06:00] | Beirdo: | as sad as that may be |
| [22:06:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: and that right there is the truth. |
| [22:06:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: They choose to be ill-represented, but it's their right to choose that. |
| [22:07:00] | Beirdo: | well, they choose from the few crooks that run |
| [22:07:00] | CyberKnet: | there ought to be a competancy test to vote though =) heh. |
| [22:07:00] | Beirdo: | the candidate selection mechanism is seriously flawed too |
| [22:07:00] | CyberKnet: | "Err... you just said a snickers bar should be prime minister. You are NOt eligible to vote!" |
| [22:07:00] | Beirdo: | there should be a competency test to RUN |
| [22:07:00] | CyberKnet: | Absolutely. |
| [22:07:00] | CyberKnet: | but then you run into limited representation |
| [22:08:00] | CyberKnet: | and that can get very hairy. |
| [22:08:00] | Beirdo: | like that's not the case now? |
| [22:08:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:08:00] | Beirdo: | hellooo |
| [22:08:00] | CyberKnet: | "You must be white, over 50 and slightly crazy in order to run the country" |
| [22:08:00] | CyberKnet: | heheheh =) |
| [22:08:00] | Beirdo: | you have multi-millionaires running for congress in piss-poor areas |
| [22:08:00] | CyberKnet: | and male! |
| [22:08:00] | Beirdo: | how is that not limited representation? |
| [22:08:00] | CyberKnet: | there ought to be representative representation. |
| [22:08:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [22:09:00] | Beirdo: | good luck with that though :) |
| [22:09:00] | CyberKnet: | if a person does not reasonably fit the mean of their area, then they should not be eligible to run for that area. |
| [22:09:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [22:09:00] | Beirdo: | man, capitol hill would be COMPLETELY different |
| [22:09:00] | CyberKnet: | i.e. if you had a 90% rich black male state then they should not be to be represented by a poor white woman. |
| [22:10:00] | CyberKnet: | of course, like that would happen anyway. |
| [22:10:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:10:00] | Beirdo: | and a 90% poor black male state shouldn't have a rich white woman representative. |
| [22:10:00] | Beirdo: | far more likely to happen |
| [22:10:00] | Beirdo: | sad but true |
| [22:10:00] | CyberKnet: | But we routinely have rich white men representing poverty line minority groups, and to expect them to uphold the needs of their constituency is impossible, yet we do it all the time. |
| [22:10:00] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [22:11:00] | Beirdo: | and we do here in Canada too |
| [22:11:00] | Beirdo: | it's lame |
| [22:11:00] | Beirdo: | and then the whole "you must vote along party lines" bullshit |
| [22:11:00] | CyberKnet: | and I'm a middle-class white male, but I am definitely above the average for my neighborhood, and I should NOT be able to represent them. |
| [22:11:00] | CyberKnet: | I don't KNOW what it is like to be them. |
| [22:12:00] | Beirdo: | but you'd have a better chance than a multi-millionaire |
| [22:12:00] | CyberKnet: | I say... the hell with parties. They've never helped anyon except their members. |
| [22:12:00] | Beirdo: | PARTY! PARTY! |
| [22:12:00] | Bob-Laptop: | CyberKnet: I agree with that |
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| [22:13:00] | Beirdo: | ah well, time to go meet mom ;) |
| [22:13:00] | Bob-Laptop: | Have fun Beirdo |
| [22:13:00] | Beirdo: | seeya guys in a few hours or something |
| [22:13:00] | laga: | night. |
| [22:13:00] | Beirdo: | night, laga |
| [22:14:00] | j-rod: | ltr |
| [22:14:00] | j-rod: | Esotericisms, no such problems w/my remotes, they just work |
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| [22:22:00] | j-rod: | Beirdo leaves, and the place falls silent... :) |
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| [22:28:00] | dhofstra: | maybe he is logged in as 3 different people and just talks with himself |
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| [22:50:00] | sunilonln: | j-rod: do you have any idea when .18.1 will be up on atrpms? |
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| [22:56:00] | j-rod: | I believe Axel said 0.18.1 should be on ATrpms within a day or so |
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| [23:16:00] | sunilonln: | i still haven't found a solution to my myth problems.. i think it's sound related, which is why i hope that .18.1 might fix it |
| [23:21:00] | j-rod: | what is your problem? |
| [23:22:00] | lucas333: | I can name a few :).. my backend keeps dying when I schedule something. |
| [23:23:00] | lucas333: | traced it to the fork() call in channelbase.cpp |
| [23:23:00] | lucas333: | have no clue why that call would cause everything to go up in the air about 20% of the times its run. |
| [23:23:00] | lucas333: | the other 80% its fine |
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| [23:32:00] | gnarface: | ping |
| [23:32:00] | sunilonln: | pong |
| [23:37:00] | gnarface: | anyone know when .18 will go to gentoo stable |
| [23:37:00] | gnarface: | ? |
| [23:38:00] | gnarface: | for that matter, anyone here know alot about the specific kernel configs? |
| [23:38:00] | CygnusX1_: | Is there an easy fix for screechy sound on transcoded video? (PVR150 – straight recordings and LiveTV are fine) |
| [23:38:00] | kormoc: | it likly won't |
| [23:38:00] | iggy: | gnarface: people in here don't like Gentoo much |
| [23:38:00] | gnarface: | i'm trying to figure out if everything in this howto is strictly necessary: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV#Getting_Started |
| [23:38:00] | kormoc: | .18.1 is out nowish and likly that will go stable |
| [23:38:00] | gnarface: | aah. i see. |
| [23:38:00] | gnarface: | gentoo hatred. |
| [23:38:00] | ** kormoc raises a eyebrow ** | |
| [23:38:00] | gnarface: | perhaps i should have stuck with debian. |
| [23:39:00] | kormoc: | it's not gentoo hatred, it's more stupid gentoo user hatred... |
| [23:39:00] | gnarface: | oh. |
| [23:39:00] | iggy: | indeed |
| [23:39:00] | gnarface: | well, i'm certainly not that. |
| [23:39:00] | gnarface: | i know how to make the damn thing work |
| [23:39:00] | gnarface: | i'm just trying to figure out if i actually need i2c bit-banging interfaces on for my hardware, or if that's just for analog capture cards |
| [23:39:00] | gnarface: | the howtos i find aren't really clear but seem to recommend it anyway |
| [23:40:00] | iggy: | you just don't know not to ask questions about a distributions keywording policy in a channel about mythtv use |
| [23:40:00] | iggy: | you need it for ivtv drivers |
| [23:40:00] | iggy: | (pretty sure anyways) |
| [23:40:00] | kormoc: | yeah, ivtv/bttv needs it iirc |
| [23:40:00] | gnarface: | hmm. ok. i'd thought it was just for bt8x8 card stuff. |
| [23:40:00] | j-rod: | anyone know when gentoo will go stable? |
| [23:40:00] | ** j-rod ducks ** | |
| [23:41:00] | gnarface: | haha |
| [23:41:00] | kormoc: | j-rod, that's why there's x86 and ~x86! |
| [23:41:00] | j-rod: | pretty sure you need the i2c stuff also |
| [23:41:00] | gnarface: | yea, the rest of it looks reasonable |
| [23:41:00] | kormoc: | (semi broken and always broken)! |
| [23:41:00] | gnarface: | for the most part |
| [23:41:00] | j-rod: | heh, yeah, that sounds about right... |
| [23:41:00] | gnarface: | but like... |
| [23:41:00] | gnarface: | ISA bus support? |
| [23:41:00] | kormoc: | gnarface, well, given you know a bit, you could always try it and see, no? |
| [23:41:00] | iggy: | gnarface: most tv cards use i2c to some extent (especially for remotes) |
| [23:42:00] | j-rod: | I didn't have too many issues with any of the gentoo boxes I ran for a while |
| [23:42:00] | j-rod: | but sheesh |
| [23:42:00] | kormoc: | I have issues once in awhile, but I like fixing them, so it's a hobby :) |
| [23:42:00] | j-rod: | was even MORE fun with ppc and ~ppc |
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| [23:42:00] | gnarface: | hmm. yea, i could just give it a try to see if it fails when i turn it off |
| [23:42:00] | j-rod: | on a laptop, no less |
| [23:42:00] | iggy: | I feel bad for anyone who maintains Gentoo boxes, and isn't a Gentoo dev |
| [23:42:00] | j-rod: | gentoo was fun for a while |
| [23:42:00] | kormoc: | I'm not a gentoo dev |
| [23:42:00] | j-rod: | got tired of it |
| [23:43:00] | iggy: | it would be hell if I couldn't go bitch at someone in #gentoo-dev for being a total asshat |
| [23:43:00] | kormoc: | and no issues what so even on my server |
| [23:43:00] | j-rod: | lol |
| [23:43:00] | kormoc: | just my desktop I break every so often :P |
| [23:43:00] | gnarface: | could it really be as bad as debian? |
| [23:43:00] | iggy: | much worse |
| [23:43:00] | gnarface: | i mean, on the front of the gap between the tools and the documentation.... |
| [23:43:00] | gnarface: | *shrug* |
| [23:43:00] | iggy: | mostly because they let 14 year olds maintain stuff like apache and glibc |
| [23:44:00] | j-rod: | heh... |
| [23:44:00] | gnarface: | haha. ok. i see what you mean. |
| [23:44:00] | kormoc: | it depends, sometimes that 14 year old is damn good |
| [23:44:00] | kormoc: | other times, just a normal 14 year old |
| [23:44:00] | gnarface: | i'm just trying it out as something new. typically i just use redhat's installer and compile everything by hand (rpms suck my ass) |
| [23:44:00] | iggy: | s/sometimes/mostly/ |
| [23:44:00] | j-rod: | In the past week, I've been asked by three sources to write something Myth-related... |
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| [23:45:00] | j-rod: | rpms rock |
| [23:45:00] | iggy: | j-rod: go for oreilly |
| [23:45:00] | kormoc: | I dislike rpms myself... |
| [23:45:00] | j-rod: | that would be one of the three |
| [23:45:00] | kormoc: | but then, I was scared by rh 5.2... |
| [23:45:00] | iggy: | j-rod: isn't always |
| [23:45:00] | iggy: | j-rod: isn't it always |
| [23:46:00] | kormoc: | j-rod, write of orielly, would look good on a resume |
| [23:46:00] | kormoc: | *for |
| [23:46:00] | j-rod: | its only to write a few bits in a Linux Multimedia Hacks book, led by Kyle Rankin |
| [23:46:00] | kormoc: | least, tis what I would do |
| [23:46:00] | j-rod: | but I said sure |
| [23:46:00] | j-rod: | also got asked by Linux+ magazine (a european Linux rag) |
| [23:46:00] | j-rod: | for an article |
| [23:46:00] | j-rod: | not talking about #3 quite yet... |
| [23:47:00] | ** iggy gives j-rod a sheepish grin ** | |
| [23:47:00] | kormoc: | you got asked by comcast to make your guide as hard to follow in exchange for $1,000,000,000? go for it man! |
| [23:47:00] | kormoc: | :P |
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| [23:47:00] | j-rod: | :) |
| [23:48:00] | j-rod: | yeah, I have a feeling they might pull the plug on my service at home if they realized... |
| [23:48:00] | iggy: | they're listening |
| [23:48:00] | sunilonln: | comcast is watching you |
| [23:49:00] | gnarface: | comcast can bite me. |
| [23:49:00] | sunilonln: | ..how ironic |
| [23:49:00] | gnarface: | those fucking bastards. |
| [23:49:00] | kormoc: | follow the cable cord. |
| [23:49:00] | kormoc: | knock knock neo |
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| [23:49:00] | ** j-rod gets a sudden urge to follow a white rabbit ** | |
| [23:49:00] | ** j-rod also needs another Dew ** | |
| [23:50:00] | ** j-rod will return shortly, cool and refreshing beverage in hand ** | |
| [23:50:00] | gnarface: | lets do a poll on caffine intake |
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| [23:50:00] | gnarface: | how many milligrams of caffine do you all get every day? |
| [23:51:00] | kormoc: | 2 barqs worth |
| [23:51:00] | gnarface: | doesn't barq have no caffine? |
| [23:51:00] | kormoc: | barqs is the only root beer with caffine |
| [23:51:00] | kormoc: | it's what gives it it's byte |
| [23:51:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [23:52:00] | j-rod: | I think I'm on my 4th can of either Coke or Mountain Dew today... |
| [23:53:00] | kormoc: | I'm attempting to lower my calorie intake |
| [23:53:00] | kormoc: | limiting myself to how much I drink |
| [23:53:00] | kormoc: | and of course eat |
| [23:53:00] | j-rod: | tried the 'drink less' thing, just didn't work for me |
| [23:54:00] | j-rod: | I'm a caffeine junkie |
| [23:54:00] | kormoc: | I wanna try to drop down to 750 calories a day for awhile. |
| [23:54:00] | sunilonln: | 750... that's like... |
| [23:54:00] | sunilonln: | nothing |
| [23:55:00] | j-rod: | quick math says I've already drank 620 calories today |
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| [23:55:00] | kormoc: | my thinking is, just existing as a human, the body burns 1400 calories |
| [23:55:00] | kormoc: | so likly I burn maybe about 1500 right now |
| [23:55:00] | gnarface: | hmm. its possible |
| [23:56:00] | gnarface: | i've heard that body builders burn 1500 |
| [23:56:00] | kormoc: | so I wanna drop intake to half |
| [23:56:00] | gnarface: | and chair jockeys acutally burn much less |
| [23:56:00] | gnarface: | you're better up doing 20 pushups every hour all day than trying to control your calorie intake |
| [23:56:00] | kormoc: | I know a dude who burns like 5000 a day, it's nuts. |
| [23:56:00] | gnarface: | wow. |
| [23:56:00] | kormoc: | gnarface, simple excersize like that doesn't actually seem to do much for myself |
| [23:57:00] | gnarface: | kormoc ever try it all day? |
| [23:57:00] | kormoc: | I lift weights, 25 lbs like all evening long |
| [23:57:00] | gnarface: | kormoc: the first 20 are nothing. the second, third and 4th 20s are nothing either... but at the end of an 8 hour day you've done 120 pushups |
| [23:57:00] | kormoc: | just go till my arms get tired, stop for a little, then start again. |
| [23:58:00] | kormoc: | maybe it's s a pair of 7.5 lbs actually, so maybe it's 15 lbs. |
| [23:58:00] | gnarface: | kormoc: that shouldn't be bad, but there's something about spreading it out over the course of the day. it boosts your metabolism because it raises your average heart rate more |
| [23:58:00] | kormoc: | Well, I'm not gonna do that at work every day all day :P |
| [23:58:00] | gnarface: | pushups are about half your body weight too, so that's gonna be in the range of 100 or so lbs. |
| [23:58:00] | gnarface: | hahah. oh yea, i forget. i work from home so i can get away with it. |
| [23:59:00] | kormoc: | sadly, more like 140 |
| [23:59:00] | gnarface: | hey, that gives you an advantage! |
| [23:59:00] | gnarface: | do pushpus in the hallway every hour :-D |
| [23:59:00] | gnarface: | start an office cult |
| [23:59:00] | kormoc: | I was down to 260 but then this job started giving away free sodas and food, and I'm back up to 280 |
| [23:59:00] | kormoc: | that would be a bad thing here :P |
| [23:59:00] | gnarface: | hahah. |
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