| Monday, May 16th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | xris: | it adds freqid/etc to the channels that DO have xmltvid |
| [00:00:00] | dopester: | the data from the actual transmitter shoudl override whatever dd says |
| [00:00:00] | dopester: | cause thats what YOU can get |
| [00:00:00] | dopester: | not what it THINKS you can get |
| [00:00:00] | xris: | blech. just made a mess in the kitchen. was making hummingbird food (sugar water) and left it on the stove. whole house is full of smoke now. |
| [00:00:00] | SarahEmm: | xris: oops :( |
| [00:01:00] | xris: | dopester: correct. which is why I've just removed those channels I can't get from the dd listing. |
| [00:01:00] | Beirdo: | nice one, xris :) |
| [00:01:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:01:00] | xris: | Beirdo: yeah. blech. |
| [00:02:00] | xris: | thank god for smoke alarms or it'd be a lot worse. |
| [00:02:00] | Beirdo: | nothing like burnt sugar smell to reek the place up |
| [00:02:00] | dopester: | xris: i'll see what i can put together today and throw it in cvs.. |
| [00:02:00] | xris: | dopester: looking forward to it. |
| [00:02:00] | xris: | would be really nice if that was easily automated. |
| [00:03:00] | dopester: | yeah it shoudl be trivial to do |
| [00:03:00] | dopester: | you not happy with the ota guide you can get there? |
| [00:03:00] | xris: | esp. if you could just attach a dd subscription to a particular scan listing. |
| [00:03:00] | dopester: | it would just be attached to a videosource like normal |
| [00:03:00] | dopester: | just you would have to scan |
| [00:03:00] | xris: | ota guide was only there on a couple of channels. |
| [00:03:00] | dopester: | and then run mythfilldatabasew AFTER you scaned |
| [00:03:00] | xris: | plus, I like the numbering better from zap2it. |
| [00:03:00] | dopester: | xris: how long did you wait for it to show up/ |
| [00:03:00] | xris: | 4_1 vs 41 |
| [00:03:00] | xris: | couple of hours |
| [00:04:00] | dopester: | you tuned to each channel via livetv? |
| [00:04:00] | xris: | no |
| [00:04:00] | dopester: | well its going to stay 41 for now :) |
| [00:04:00] | dopester: | it only gathers data when you are tuned to the channel |
| [00:04:00] | xris: | ah |
| [00:04:00] | dopester: | thats code i still have to write to make it do that in the background |
| [00:05:00] | xris: | yeah. need to get that into mythfilldatabase. |
| [00:05:00] | xris: | otherwise, stuff would never get recorded, since I don't watch livetv via myth |
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| [00:06:00] | dopester: | xris: the freqid isn't used by the dvb code |
| [00:06:00] | dhofstra: | I get no OTA guide data here (at least what I setup last night) |
| [00:07:00] | dopester: | dhofstra: are you going to livetv on each channel and waiting a minute or two? |
| [00:07:00] | dopester: | takes about 30 seconds ot load here |
| [00:07:00] | xris: | dopester: I didn't know that. |
| [00:07:00] | dhofstra: | no, didnt know that |
| [00:08:00] | dopester: | yeah it doesn't really matter much for the dvb world since they have 3–4 days of data and with recordigns goign on it keeps it filled |
| [00:08:00] | dhofstra: | I also would have conflicts like 16–1 here is 161 which is also a sat channel |
| [00:08:00] | dopester: | but in atsc land you only get 18 hours of data |
| [00:08:00] | jams: | dhofstra, forgot to say hi :) |
| [00:08:00] | dhofstra: | hey jams |
| [00:08:00] | dhofstra: | good reviews on your theme so far. nice job |
| [00:09:00] | jams: | good |
| [00:09:00] | jams: | lot's of tweaks have been made |
| [00:10:00] | dopester: | did someone say new themes? |
| [00:10:00] | dhofstra: | I've been messing with dvb lately, and have run into the channel nightmare of assigning a datadirect source to match the dvb scanned stuff... luckily it looks like dopester and xris are about to pounce on the problem |
| [00:10:00] | dhofstra: | part of the lxmsuite |
| [00:10:00] | dopester: | ive been avoiding it honestly |
| [00:10:00] | dopester: | ahh yes |
| [00:10:00] | dopester: | i prefer to get my guide ota since dd for me was always horribly wrong hoping someone else would make it work |
| [00:10:00] | dopester: | but i'll jsut make it work and not use it here :) |
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| [00:22:00] | dopester: | xris: when can i expect mythweb-new? |
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| [00:30:00] | lucas333: | anybody knows how to get the mythplugins-0.18's configure to use a userspecified -march flag? My CPU gets misdetected as pentiumpro, while its athlon-xp. |
| [00:31:00] | Beirdo: | stupid mythweb's still crapping my backend, it seems |
| [00:31:00] | Beirdo: | or something else is |
| [00:32:00] | xris: | dopester: mythweb-new? |
| [00:33:00] | xris: | mm.. good cricket cola. |
| [00:33:00] | dopester: | well where is mythweb in cvs? |
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| [00:35:00] | Beirdo: | is it made with real crickets? :) |
| [00:35:00] | Beirdo: | dopester: under mythplugins |
| [00:36:00] | dopester: | oh man this is going to suck |
| [00:36:00] | dopester: | first channel.. |
| [00:37:00] | dopester: | from OTA "WRAL HD" from DD "WRALDT" |
| [00:37:00] | dopester: | "UNC-TV" "WUNCDT" |
| [00:37:00] | Beirdo: | unc unc unc |
| [00:37:00] | dopester: | crap how does one map that shit.. hehe |
| [00:37:00] | dopester: | Univerisy of North Carolina |
| [00:37:00] | Beirdo: | I know |
| [00:37:00] | dopester: | not UNCorrectable :) |
| [00:37:00] | Beirdo: | it just sounds a bit dirty |
| [00:38:00] | SarahEmm: | woohoo. myth starts automatically when i boot the box now :) |
| [00:38:00] | SarahEmm: | now just lirc support to add in. task for tomorrow, methinks. |
| [00:38:00] | dopester: | WNCNDT-1 -> NBC17HD |
| [00:38:00] | dopester: | easy mapping there too.. geezzz... |
| [00:38:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:39:00] | dhofstra: | mine would never map either I dont think there is a standard |
| [00:39:00] | Beirdo: | you should take that up with zap2it |
| [00:39:00] | dopester: | oh there is no standard |
| [00:39:00] | dopester: | its just the name field |
| [00:39:00] | dopester: | going to HAVE to use majorminor number |
| [00:39:00] | dopester: | get a minor channel shuffle and mythfilldatabase should still adapt |
| [00:40:00] | EricAnderson: | Hmm |
| [00:40:00] | EricAnderson: | IS the viewing quality w/ MythTV decent? |
| [00:40:00] | dopester: | no it looks terrible thats why we all use it |
| [00:40:00] | SarahEmm: | captioning is broken again in 0.18-r1 :P |
| [00:40:00] | SarahEmm: | *hisses* |
| [00:40:00] | dhofstra: | it would be enough for me to have a place in the channel editor where I could copy the few atscid fields to the correct zap2it channel |
| [00:40:00] | SarahEmm: | EricAnderson: it's great :) |
| [00:40:00] | dopester: | dhofstra: i think i can automate it at least for atsc |
| [00:41:00] | EricAnderson: | Comparable to TIVO and the rest? |
| [00:41:00] | SarahEmm: | EricAnderson: from what i can see, yes. |
| [00:41:00] | EricAnderson: | hmm |
| [00:41:00] | EricAnderson: | Cool |
| [00:41:00] | dhofstra: | EricAnderson: my opinion is that my PVR250s do as good of job as my friend's tivo, and they are capturing off s-video from a sat box |
| [00:41:00] | EricAnderson: | Hmm |
| [00:42:00] | dhofstra: | EricAnderson; oh and my HDTV card recieves better than tivo =) |
| [00:42:00] | EricAnderson: | dhofstra: But of course :) |
| [00:42:00] | dopester: | is dd_v_station a temp table? |
| [00:42:00] | EricAnderson: | Im about to turn in my Cable Company's Set Top Box... and build my own |
| [00:42:00] | EricAnderson: | Since my FileServer has plenty of power |
| [00:42:00] | Beirdo: | think so, dopester |
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| [00:42:00] | dhofstra: | Myth is a way of life, you wont find many people talking you out of it here.. |
| [00:43:00] | EricAnderson: | Im mostly questioning whether I have the time to go this route |
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| [00:44:00] | dopester: | berido: thanks thats sure what its looking like |
| [00:44:00] | dhofstra: | It does take some setup time, you wont have it working in a day, but once you know what you are doing, I could set it up in a day. |
| [00:44:00] | EricAnderson: | dhofstra: Ive got the *nix experience... |
| [00:44:00] | dopester: | i set it up here minus compile time in about 10 minutes.. hehe |
| [00:44:00] | EricAnderson: | heh |
| [00:44:00] | SarahEmm: | EricAnderson: it takes time but once you get it up and running you'll wonder how you ever did without it. |
| [00:44:00] | EricAnderson: | Hmm |
| [00:44:00] | ** SarahEmm *loves* it. it's great. ** | |
| [00:44:00] | SarahEmm: | (except the fact that closed captioning keeps getting semi-broken) |
| [00:45:00] | EricAnderson: | Radeon 9250 or GeForce FX 5500 ?? |
| [00:45:00] | SarahEmm: | shouldn't matter |
| [00:45:00] | EricAnderson: | They are both on sale this week |
| [00:45:00] | dhofstra: | nvidia has had better support in the past |
| [00:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dopester: hell yeah myth is worth it I have been working on mine for a week adding and adding |
| [00:45:00] | SarahEmm: | i'm running onboard intel video, geforce4mx, geforce3 in the xbox, and onboard intel laptop video |
| [00:45:00] | SarahEmm: | (on various frontends) |
| [00:46:00] | EricAnderson: | This GeForce has integrated hardware mpeg2 decoder |
| [00:46:00] | SarahEmm: | err |
| [00:46:00] | SarahEmm: | does myth suppor tthat tho? |
| [00:46:00] | EricAnderson: | Question is... does X support it |
| [00:46:00] | EricAnderson: | or does Myth even |
| [00:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | EricAnderson: I would seriously advise getting the mythweb it rocks. I am totally in love with it haha |
| [00:46:00] | SarahEmm: | i don't think so, but i'm not 100% sure ericanderson |
| [00:46:00] | dhofstra: | EricAnderson: you will definitley ant a PVR card for best picture quality |
| [00:46:00] | SarahEmm: | i use MPEG4 doing software encoding because the PVR-xxx cards don't have features i need |
| [00:46:00] | EricAnderson: | dhofstra: Yes, I plan on getting a 250 |
| [00:46:00] | dhofstra: | I dont think the nvidia capture works yet |
| [00:47:00] | EricAnderson: | dhofstra: Im questioning my tv out though... |
| [00:47:00] | EricAnderson: | dhofstra: its not a capture |
| [00:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | EricAnderson: why not the 350? |
| [00:47:00] | EricAnderson: | I have a linux box working like a server... it has no video :) |
| [00:47:00] | EricAnderson: | Does X/Myth support hardware mpeg2 DEcoders? |
| [00:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am running prv-350 with both encode/decode on the card |
| [00:47:00] | dhofstra: | EricAnderson, I use a component video transcoder to output to a HDTV , and have never messed with s-video except on xbox frontend |
| [00:48:00] | EricAnderson: | SlicerDicer: Is that decent? I thought I read about some problems with that |
| [00:48:00] | SarahEmm: | EricAnderson: from waht i've heard, the -350 is great |
| [00:48:00] | SarahEmm: | awesome output quality |
| [00:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | EricAnderson: without it my mac would not have the juice to play the video |
| [00:48:00] | SarahEmm: | i've not used any PVR-xxx cards tho |
| [00:49:00] | EricAnderson: | SlicerDicer-: I thought I read that that card played DVDs and games like crap though |
| [00:49:00] | dhofstra: | but the 350 doesnt acellerate other things as well as just a plain nvidia card.. no x-acelleration I believe |
| [00:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I run 3 frontends mac, and 2 linux boxes and my mac is a 400mhz well I can run the videos just fine on it without the onboard decode I would not be able to |
| [00:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hell no EricAnderson I have great luck with it my videos are outstanding |
| [00:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont run a video card at all on that box though |
| [00:50:00] | EricAnderson: | Right |
| [00:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | only for initial setup I did but there is not nvidia drivers on that box |
| [00:50:00] | EricAnderson: | You just use the 350 for out |
| [00:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | out and inputs |
| [00:50:00] | dhofstra: | SlicerDicer can you use the 350 for DVD playback? |
| [00:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | to record and playback |
| [00:50:00] | EricAnderson: | dhofstra: Thats what I was questioning |
| [00:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | dhofstra: I just store my dvd's on the drive but I am able to playback dvds sure |
| [00:51:00] | dhofstra: | cool, I may have misconceptions about the 350 then, so dont listen to me |
| [00:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I use my external dvd player that is for my tv and just route it through mythtv then back to tv |
| [00:51:00] | EricAnderson: | dhofstra: Everything I read online about the 350 seemed to suggest it was kinda weak |
| [00:51:00] | dhofstra: | I'd rather have the 5500 myself |
| [00:51:00] | EricAnderson: | dhofstra: That the dual tuner? |
| [00:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dunno its extra cash EricAnderson hehe I dont see how it could be weak |
| [00:51:00] | dhofstra: | no the nvidia you mentioned before |
| [00:51:00] | SarahEmm: | hrm, i've read the complete opposite about the -350.. weird. |
| [00:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its got encode/decode I dont think the others have that do they? |
| [00:52:00] | EricAnderson: | dhofstra: Oh yea... Thats where I am leaning |
| [00:52:00] | SarahEmm: | it's the only one with decoding |
| [00:52:00] | SarahEmm: | the others are all encode-only |
| [00:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah |
| [00:52:00] | EricAnderson: | dhofstra: Does X/Myth support mpeg decoding |
| [00:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats what I thought |
| [00:52:00] | dhofstra: | EricAnderson: a pvr250 and a nvidia card can do whatever you want |
| [00:52:00] | EricAnderson: | Cool |
| [00:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | EricAnderson: when i activated decoding my mac was able to play with the decoding disabled it is extremely lurchy |
| [00:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so decoding obviously works |
| [00:53:00] | EricAnderson: | SlicerDicer-: Right, but Im looking at another card |
| [00:53:00] | EricAnderson: | SlicerDicer-: Not that one... A seperate video card for decoding |
| [00:53:00] | dhofstra: | but the 350 gets rave reviews for its tv-out, I dont think it handles everything myth can do as well as the nvidia would |
| [00:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | right I am just saying that obviously decoding works |
| [00:53:00] | EricAnderson: | SlicerDicer-: Specifically for that card... I meant genericly though |
| [00:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh I dont know about generic but I dont see why it would not work |
| [00:54:00] | EricAnderson: | I know that shit all works in windows |
| [00:54:00] | EricAnderson: | But who wants to __PAY__ |
| [00:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [00:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I doubt its as stable :) |
| [00:54:00] | EricAnderson: | exactly |
| [00:54:00] | EricAnderson: | Who wants to reboot their PVR daily :) |
| [00:55:00] | EricAnderson: | What remotes do you guys use??? |
| [00:55:00] | SarahEmm: | most of my frontends just use wireless keyboards. the new living room frontend is an XBox, which will use the xbox dvd remote. |
| [00:55:00] | mchou: | bah, ther e is no point in getting 350. Get hauppauge mvp instead if you want tv-out :) |
| [00:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I am waiting on my irblaster to finish off my dose of insanity here |
| [00:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: now you tell me :P |
| [00:55:00] | mchou: | mvp even does divx now..... |
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| [00:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: I got my due to the fact of decode/encode actually that was the main selling point haha |
| [00:56:00] | EricAnderson: | SlicerDicer-: Its a big point... but I think Im gonna go more generic |
| [00:56:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: how much did you pay for $350? |
| [00:56:00] | SarahEmm: | heck, if you want encode only you can even get the PVR-500 which has two tuners in it |
| [00:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh 180$ it was like 40$ more than the 250 at my local store IIRC |
| [00:56:00] | mchou: | sorry, pvr350 |
| [00:57:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: what a rip.... |
| [00:57:00] | mchou: | MVP retail is $80. |
| [00:57:00] | mchou: | 150 can be had for ~$60..... |
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| [00:58:00] | mchou: | you do the math :) |
| [00:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: I wanted the decode man.... |
| [00:58:00] | SarahEmm: | two cards though, for the MVP + 250 |
| [00:58:00] | EricAnderson: | SarahEmm: Thats what I am considering |
| [00:58:00] | mchou: | MVP does decode. |
| [00:58:00] | SarahEmm: | my backend only has one PCI slot :) |
| [00:58:00] | SarahEmm: | the -500 will be great as it'll only take up one slot for two tuners, but i need to find time to hack the drivers some |
| [00:58:00] | mchou: | 2 cards??? |
| [00:58:00] | mchou: | MVP is not a card. |
| [00:58:00] | SarahEmm: | err... what is it? |
| [00:58:00] | SarahEmm: | oh, duh! |
| [00:58:00] | SarahEmm: | sorry :P |
| [00:58:00] | SarahEmm: | nevermind. |
| [00:59:00] | jasoncohen: | heh, i'll ask again- has anyone here compiled mythtv on debian? |
| [00:59:00] | EricAnderson: | SarahEmm: Yeah, the 500 looks nice... Im not sure I can front the money for that right now though, so I'll have to just upgrade later |
| [00:59:00] | SarahEmm: | EricAnderson: ahh. |
| [01:00:00] | SarahEmm: | i'll pick one up in a few weeks i think. been saying that for awhile, but haven't had spare time much lately heh. |
| [01:00:00] | EricAnderson: | What distro are you all using? |
| [01:00:00] | SarahEmm: | gentoo on backend and all frontends (including the xbox) |
| [01:01:00] | EricAnderson: | i was gonna put linux on the xbox... but I love my damn halo 2 too much |
| [01:01:00] | EricAnderson: | (Thats half the reason I need a dvr) |
| [01:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | mchou: on another topic I love mythweb!!! it rocks! |
| [01:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so much easier to search and what not compared to the frontend hehe |
| [01:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I barely use my frontend anymore :) |
| [01:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Gentoo |
| [01:01:00] | jasoncohen: | lol, no one here uses debian? |
| [01:02:00] | EricAnderson: | Alright, so I gotta find out about linux support for the 5500 |
| [01:02:00] | mchou: | SlicerDicer-: mvp is probably better at decoding than 350, probably has better PQ too. |
| [01:02:00] | Beirdo: | jasoncohen: what's there to do? just compile it already |
| [01:02:00] | jasoncohen: | Beirdo, i can't! |
| [01:02:00] | SarahEmm: | SlicerDicer-: if you don't use a frontend, what do you use? |
| [01:02:00] | jasoncohen: | Beirdo, it goes for 20 minutes and then spits out an error. I believe i have all the deps installed |
| [01:02:00] | Beirdo: | then you don't have the prereqs installed |
| [01:03:00] | Agrajag-: | jasoncohen: yeah |
| [01:03:00] | jasoncohen: | Beirdo, i followed the mythtv.org instructions |
| [01:03:00] | mchou: | Chutt uses (used) debian, so it must be able to compile. |
| [01:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | SarahEmm: I only use the frontend to watch the videos on my computer is what I am saying otherwise to do my schedule I use mythweb :) |
| [01:03:00] | jasoncohen: | Agrajag-, how did you install? |
| [01:03:00] | Agrajag-: | jasoncohen: what's teh error? |
| [01:03:00] | jasoncohen: | one sec |
| [01:03:00] | SarahEmm: | SlicerDicer-: oh me too. |
| [01:03:00] | SarahEmm: | i never schedule via the frontend.. |
| [01:03:00] | Agrajag-: | jasoncohen: compiled from source |
| [01:03:00] | Beirdo: | "it stops with an error" means SFA |
| [01:03:00] | EricAnderson: | Do all of you strip your harddrives? |
| [01:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | SarahEmm: yeh its to hard and the web interface just kicks total ass |
| [01:03:00] | jasoncohen: | Beirdo, i pasted it here 4–5 times yesterday |
| [01:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | props to xris for that one :) |
| [01:03:00] | dopester: | xris: how do you make a _ with your remote? |
| [01:03:00] | SarahEmm: | EricAnderson: 'strip'? what? |
| [01:04:00] | EricAnderson: | SarahEmm: It makes multiple hd's look like one big one |
| [01:04:00] | Agrajag-: | i think he means stripe |
| [01:04:00] | jasoncohen: | Agrajag-, http://pastebin.com/284914 |
| [01:04:00] | SarahEmm: | SlicerDicer-: plus, combined with my VPN to home from work, if someone in the NOC at work is talking about a show that sounds nifty, i can set up to record it from work :) |
| [01:04:00] | Agrajag-: | a lot of people use lvm yeah |
| [01:04:00] | SarahEmm: | oh, stripe! |
| [01:04:00] | SarahEmm: | nooooo. |
| [01:04:00] | SarahEmm: | redundancy++ |
| [01:04:00] | SarahEmm: | striping halves the reliability |
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| [01:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | SarahEmm: I will actually be doing a VPN from USA to Australia and zapping shit across that way :) |
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| [01:05:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: you're a dumbass. |
| [01:05:00] | EricAnderson: | SarahEmm: But its just recorded tv... |
| [01:05:00] | Agrajag-: | jasoncohen: is there stuff before that? |
| [01:05:00] | SarahEmm: | EricAnderson: *Shrug* up to you :) |
| [01:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | just got to think real hard of how to set it up being on the other side of the globe..... haha |
| [01:05:00] | jasoncohen: | Agrajag-, yes, it goes on for quite a while. I'll see if i can get all of it |
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| [01:05:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou, care to elaborate? |
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| [01:05:00] | SarahEmm: | i live by the redundancy philosophy due to the work i do |
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| [01:05:00] | SarahEmm: | so it carries over to home and the rest of my life a lot |
| [01:05:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: RTFM on setting the QT paths and libs. |
| [01:05:00] | bobc: | what happens if you lose one drive in a lvm which several drives in it. do you lose everything? |
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| [01:06:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou, i had QTDIR set to /usr/lib/qt3 |
| [01:06:00] | SarahEmm: | bobc: i'd imagine so |
| [01:06:00] | xris: | dopester: I don't use a remote |
| [01:06:00] | SarahEmm: | bobc: unless the LVM is on top of RAID :) |
| [01:06:00] | mchou: | bobc: yes. lose everything. |
| [01:06:00] | ** SarahEmm 's server runs RAID-5 with a cold spare ** | |
| [01:06:00] | xris: | nor do I watch live tv with myth. |
| [01:06:00] | dopester: | xris: thats what everyone who likes the _ system says.. |
| [01:06:00] | xris: | lol |
| [01:06:00] | xris: | you do have a point, though |
| [01:06:00] | EricAnderson: | No one watches livetv through myth? |
| [01:06:00] | jasoncohen: | Agrajag-, http://pastebin.com/284916 it's the same errror |
| [01:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | SarahEmm: how well does it work over VPN beings you said you did it :) |
| [01:07:00] | xris: | personally, I'd be totally cool with attaching a dd listing to a "scanned" channel list. |
| [01:07:00] | SarahEmm: | EricAnderson: i do, but rarely |
| [01:07:00] | xris: | pull the dd stuff down and import it into the scanned list as things matched. |
| [01:07:00] | SarahEmm: | SlicerDicer-: i was talkign about running mythweb through a VPN, the web interface itself works great |
| [01:07:00] | EricAnderson: | The program guide is where its at though! |
| [01:07:00] | SarahEmm: | i tried using the frontend itself at a remote location via the VPN, which works sortakinda, but i didn't have nearly enough bandwidth at home to do it, and it was very very choppy |
| [01:07:00] | dopester: | xris: thats what im going to do |
| [01:07:00] | xris: | perfect, then. |
| [01:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | SarahEmm: yeah the rest is kinda foggy but it cant hurt to try :) |
| [01:07:00] | dopester: | its just not as simple as i had origiannyl thougt |
| [01:08:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou, i used the instructions for debian on mythtv.org and installed all the deps – see http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html#ss3.2 bottom of page |
| [01:08:00] | xris: | yeah, didn't think it would be. |
| [01:08:00] | dopester: | my listings seem good here now last time i looked a few months ago they were total shit |
| [01:08:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: you're a dumbass. |
| [01:08:00] | dopester: | they are the cable version of the channels though. |
| [01:08:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou, i followed the damn instructions |
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| [01:08:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou, tell me what i did wrong |
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| [01:08:00] | SarahEmm: | oops. heh :) |
| [01:08:00] | xris: | actually, that would be sweet, since you could pull dd stuff in for long-term info, and use the atsc listings for short-term overrides. |
| [01:08:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: no you didn't. You installed the -devel packages?? |
| [01:09:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: I'd never fscking hire you as a lawyer. |
| [01:09:00] | jasoncohen: | http://pastebin.com/284917 |
| [01:09:00] | jasoncohen: | i installed those |
| [01:09:00] | jasoncohen: | notice all the -dev |
| [01:09:00] | jasoncohen: | :) |
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| [01:10:00] | hays_: | What do folks do about getting a remote control working with MythTV (hardware side) |
| [01:10:00] | dopester: | xris: thats sort of what i want to do, there are some other issues with it though like categories.. atsc guide doesn't have em but dd does.. so do you strip em out of dd, or attempt to fuzzy match events? |
| [01:10:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: where? I don't set qt-dev anywhere. |
| [01:10:00] | dopester: | and who is the difnitive source? atsc epg or dd? i think atsc |
| [01:10:00] | Agrajag-: | mchou: libqt3-mt-dev |
| [01:11:00] | jasoncohen: | If you have followed the instructions on the above page you should have added |
| [01:11:00] | jasoncohen: | deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv |
| [01:11:00] | jasoncohen: | to your /etc/apt/sources.list file. Running apt-get update and then executing apt-get build-dep mythtv should install all the pre-requisites required to compile MythTV. |
| [01:11:00] | jasoncohen: | that' what i did |
| [01:11:00] | jasoncohen: | sorry for the long paste |
| [01:11:00] | Agrajag-: | jasoncohen: just compile from source |
| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | you need libqt3c102-mt-dev |
| [01:11:00] | Beirdo: | I think |
| [01:11:00] | ** xris is in favor of fuzzy matches purely because it would involved regex. ** | |
| [01:11:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah |
| [01:12:00] | jasoncohen: | Beirdo, thanks |
| [01:12:00] | Agrajag-: | what Beirdo said |
| [01:12:00] | Agrajag-: | (and libqt3c102-mt) |
| [01:13:00] | Beirdo: | he has that, but not the -dev for it |
| [01:13:00] | Agrajag-: | ah right |
| [01:13:00] | Beirdo: | there may be more he's missing, I dunno |
| [01:13:00] | dopester: | xris: then you can code that shit up im going to go with the "choose a source and use just it" solution.. :) |
| [01:13:00] | jasoncohen: | apt-cache search doesn't show libqtc102-mt-dev ..just libqtc102-mt .. can you check if that exists Agrajag? |
| [01:13:00] | mchou: | xris: I'd appreciate if you could provide proper attribution in rhe perl script. |
| [01:13:00] | mchou: | the* |
| [01:14:00] | hays_: | What do folks do about getting a remote control working with MythTV (hardware side) |
| [01:14:00] | xris: | mchou: script not finished yet, but yes, I intended to. |
| [01:14:00] | xris: | mchou: mark or marc? |
| [01:14:00] | xris: | k |
| [01:14:00] | xris: | nevermind. |
| [01:14:00] | Agrajag-: | jasoncohen: it's libqt3c102-mt-dev |
| [01:15:00] | mchou: | xris: no, just mechou (pls do not identify by name) |
| [01:15:00] | xris: | ok |
| [01:15:00] | SarahEmm: | hays_: i only have one box with a remote, i'm working on setting it up now.. it's an xbox, so using the xbox dvd remote package |
| [01:15:00] | xris: | mechou or mchou? |
| [01:15:00] | mchou: | xris: either one is fine :) |
| [01:16:00] | xris: | you pick, I'm typing it in now. |
| [01:16:00] | xris: | (so I don't forget again) |
| [01:16:00] | mchou: | xris: mchou |
| [01:16:00] | xris: | ok |
| [01:16:00] | mchou: | xris: thx. |
| [01:16:00] | xris: | done, and posted |
| [01:16:00] | jasoncohen: | Agrajag-, apt-cache search libqtc102-mt-dev shows nothing and when i try to install it i get Package libqt3c102-mt-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package |
| [01:17:00] | jasoncohen: | apt-cache search libqt3c102-mt-dev i mean |
| [01:17:00] | Agrajag-: | hmm yeah actually you're right -dev of that doesn't exist |
| [01:18:00] | EricAnderson: | K |
| [01:18:00] | jasoncohen: | i already have libqt3c102-mt |
| [01:18:00] | jasoncohen: | Agrajag-, how did you go about installing the deps? |
| [01:18:00] | Beirdo: | well, you're missing some Qt stuff |
| [01:18:00] | EricAnderson: | So recap! GeForce 5500 & a -250 == about as good as it gets for the costs |
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| [01:19:00] | Agrajag-: | jasoncohen: i already had them all |
| [01:19:00] | jasoncohen: | how? |
| [01:19:00] | Agrajag-: | well once upon a time i must've installed them |
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| [01:21:00] | jasoncohen: | Agrajag-, do you have libmysqlclient12-dev or libmysqlclient10-dev? |
| [01:22:00] | Agrajag-: | libmysqlclient 4.0.24–5 |
| [01:22:00] | Agrajag-: | oh wait that's cut off |
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| [01:23:00] | Agrajag-: | i have libmysqlclient12-dev |
| [01:24:00] | Agrajag-: | hey in your list i dont see the qt3 mysql stuff |
| [01:24:00] | mchou: | yeah, no kidding.... |
| [01:24:00] | Agrajag-: | libqt3c102-mt-mysql |
| [01:24:00] | jasoncohen: | already installed |
| [01:25:00] | hays_: | setting up a remote control looks kinda complicated. |
| [01:25:00] | jasoncohen: | but i was wrong about xlibmesa3-gl. it's not installed |
| [01:25:00] | jasoncohen: | Package xlibmesa3-gl is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| [01:25:00] | Agrajag-: | i dont have that installed |
| [01:26:00] | jasoncohen: | ah, it's called xlibmesa-gl |
| [01:26:00] | SarahEmm: | hays_: it's not super simple :) |
| [01:26:00] | SarahEmm: | but hey, who likes super simple? That's not fun ;) |
| [01:27:00] | jasoncohen: | Agrajag-, now it says everything is installed- http://pastebin.com/284928 |
| [01:27:00] | jasoncohen: | the names were just slightly off |
| [01:28:00] | jasoncohen: | Agrajag-, although my QTDIR wasn't set automatically i had to set it manually with export. is that a problem? |
| [01:28:00] | jasoncohen: | and /usr/bin/qmake |
| [01:29:00] | Agrajag-: | i don't know. i dont have a QTDIR set, and i didn't have any problems |
| [01:29:00] | wlanfox: | Don't want to be rude an cut-in on any conversation, but does any one know where I can find infromation about transfering recordings from one backend to another? |
| [01:29:00] | jasoncohen: | Agrajag-, what does echo $QTDIR give you? |
| [01:29:00] | Agrajag-: | nothing |
| [01:30:00] | Agrajag-: | wlanfox: i dont think there are any tools to do that |
| [01:30:00] | Agrajag-: | you'll have to do it manually |
| [01:30:00] | mchou: | wlanfox: just copy over nfs. May have to modify the db. It will be self evident. |
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| [01:31:00] | quink: | hey. any of you using LVM? |
| [01:31:00] | wlanfox: | Thanks for the info... Yes I am using automount, and I can access any of my machines trough /net/<hostname>/path |
| [01:32:00] | mchou: | more like who isnt using lvm. |
| [01:32:00] | quink: | ah. |
| [01:33:00] | quink: | well i added a hdd that has an lvm share on it but isn't part of anything active on this system, and now my other lvm stuff isn't working |
| [01:33:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:33:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, it can get confused if you didn't wipe the disk before adding it |
| [01:33:00] | quink: | oh. |
| [01:33:00] | quink: | tahts waht i thought might be happening. |
| [01:33:00] | Beirdo: | ie. fdisk it, change the partition type so it doesn't get detected |
| [01:34:00] | Beirdo: | then reboot with the LVM stuff in there, and set it up |
| [01:34:00] | quink: | well i was planning on formating that partition then adding it to lvm |
| [01:34:00] | Beirdo: | I had that happen once too |
| [01:34:00] | wlanfox: | but I was hopping that some one had writting a script or tool that would extract the recording information from one server and then just having to insert that infor on the other server... |
| [01:34:00] | jasoncohen: | Agrajag-, now i'm getting this error when i try to make |
| [01:34:00] | jasoncohen: | http://pastebin.com/284930 |
| [01:35:00] | Beirdo: | I need the non-bleeped Daily Shows |
| [01:35:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [01:35:00] | quink: | that and now my fglrx module isn't happy |
| [01:35:00] | Beirdo: | you must have upgraded your kernel |
| [01:35:00] | quink: | no |
| [01:35:00] | mchou: | wlanfox: you dont need a script. one sql update statment suffices |
| [01:35:00] | Beirdo: | you have to rebuild that module every time |
| [01:35:00] | quink: | i ran some updates, upated xorg |
| [01:36:00] | Beirdo: | ah, maybe your drivers are for an older version of xorg |
| [01:36:00] | quink: | i am thinking of updating the kernel, but normally that is a headache cause it breaks some things and fixes others |
| [01:36:00] | quink: | yeah just recompiled ati-drivers with no luck |
| [01:36:00] | jasoncohen: | Agrajag-, any ideas what's going on? |
| [01:36:00] | jasoncohen: | *idea |
| [01:36:00] | Beirdo: | quink: you may need a newer version of the drivers, etc |
| [01:37:00] | quink: | yeah, i guess i should tackle one problem at a time |
| [01:37:00] | wlanfox: | quink: have you tried http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO.html? I found most everything I needed to know for LVM setup there. Even removing or replacing PVs... |
| [01:37:00] | quink: | yep |
| [01:39:00] | Agrajag-: | jasoncohen: nope. i dont have that file. i have a -mt version of it though. try make clean and try again |
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| [01:40:00] | jasoncohen: | Agrajag-, ok |
| [01:40:00] | quink: | after pvcreate for the new partition i just do vgextend? |
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| [01:40:00] | jasoncohen: | Agrajag-, can you do a dpkg --get-selections > packages.txt and DCC it to me? |
| [01:41:00] | Agrajag-: | haha.. ok |
| [01:42:00] | jasoncohen: | it's still giving the same error after make clean. i think i need to do a make dep clean |
| [01:42:00] | jasoncohen: | what happened? |
| [01:43:00] | Agrajag-: | accept dcc? |
| [01:43:00] | Agrajag-: | must be a nat problem |
| [01:43:00] | jasoncohen: | yup |
| [01:43:00] | Agrajag-: | http://home.whatsbeef.net:1339/~filip/packages.txt |
| [01:43:00] | jasoncohen: | one sec, i think my firewall wasn't setup |
| [01:44:00] | jasoncohen: | thanks |
| [01:45:00] | jasoncohen: | Agrajag-, are you on sarge or sid? |
| [01:45:00] | Agrajag-: | sarge |
| [01:46:00] | jasoncohen: | lol 449 packages |
| [01:46:00] | jasoncohen: | i was hoping our systems wouldn't be too dissimilar |
| [01:46:00] | quink: | hm. if i built lvm into the kernel, how do i make it 'restart' to rescan/mount filesystems? |
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| [01:49:00] | Agrajag-: | jasoncohen: do you still get that error when you've done distclean? |
| [01:50:00] | jasoncohen: | no, it just starts again |
| [01:50:00] | jasoncohen: | but i did that yesterday to no avail |
| [01:50:00] | Agrajag-: | jasoncohen: ignore what shingouz is saying in #debian, he's talking rubbish |
| [01:51:00] | jasoncohen: | ok...seems strange since all those 16,000 packages debian has in its repos had to be compiled by someone |
| [01:51:00] | Agrajag-: | heh |
| [01:52:00] | jasoncohen: | ah, sorry 16,000 x 11 architectures |
| [01:53:00] | Agrajag-: | anyway that problem you're getting |
| [01:54:00] | Agrajag-: | do you happen to have both -mt and non-mt qt3 lib stuff installed? |
| [01:54:00] | jasoncohen: | perhaps- one sec, i'll check |
| [01:54:00] | Agrajag-: | if so, remove the non mt stuff |
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| [02:03:00] | jasoncohen: | i hade libqt3c102-mysql and libqt3102-mt-mysql |
| [02:04:00] | jasoncohen: | i also had libqt3c102 and libqt3c102-ibase installed |
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| [02:05:00] | Agrajag-: | did you remove them? |
| [02:13:00] | jasoncohen: | yes |
| [02:13:00] | jasoncohen: | what luck i have |
| [02:13:00] | jasoncohen: | i purge mysql |
| [02:13:00] | jasoncohen: | then i do apt-get install mythtv and voila and deb packages work |
| [02:14:00] | jasoncohen: | then...i look at the terminal where i was compiling and guess what- it finished compiling! |
| [02:17:00] | jasoncohen: | Agrajag-, thanks for your help |
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| [02:21:00] | Agrajag-: | jasoncohen: no worries |
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| [02:38:00] | jasoncohen: | what's the debian version of libcdda0 libcdda0-devel |
| [02:38:00] | jasoncohen: | i have libcdaudio0 and libcdaudio0-dev installed but i'm not sure that's the same thing |
| [02:39:00] | jasoncohen: | because there's also a deb libcdaudio1-devel which debian doesn't have |
| [02:43:00] | jasoncohen: | i checked the summary of the file in mdk. It's apparnetly the cdparanoia dev files so i installed libcdparanoia0 and libcdparanoia-dev on debian. hopefully the install will go a bit longer this time |
| [02:45:00] | EricAnderson: | The -150 sucks right? |
| [02:46:00] | mchou: | where do ppl hear such rumors? |
| [02:46:00] | EricAnderson: | whats the diff between 150 and 250 |
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| [02:46:00] | UncleWilly: | hello friends |
| [02:46:00] | UncleWilly: | is cvs down? |
| [02:47:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou, can you explain why i was being a dumbass? I followed the instructions exactly. |
| [02:47:00] | EricAnderson: | mchou: So you like the 150? |
| [02:48:00] | mchou: | you were a dumbass cause you did not install all the dev packages. |
| [02:48:00] | mchou: | EricAnderson: I've 2 of them. Thank answer your question? |
| [02:48:00] | jasoncohen: | if i made instructions for installing the mythmusic & mythdvd deps for debian, would it be placed on mythtv.org? i had to apt-cache search each dep. I think it would be a lot easier if users could simply enter one apt-get install line. |
| [02:49:00] | mchou: | that* |
| [02:49:00] | EricAnderson: | mchou: Does the hardware encoder wrok well? |
| [02:49:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou, i did- it was your fault for making a comment when you didn't know what you were talking about. i needed qt3-mt-dev and you said i was an idiot for not installing qt3-dev |
| [02:50:00] | jasoncohen: | anyways, the problem wasn't lack of deps but rather i had conflicting deps |
| [02:50:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: huh?? I used that as shorthand. |
| [02:50:00] | jasoncohen: | i had non -mt qt3 packages installed |
| [02:50:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou, well, i had it installed and you called me an idiot for not having it |
| [02:50:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou jasoncohen: no you didn't. You installed the -devel packages?? |
| [02:50:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou jasoncohen: I'd never fscking hire you as a lawyer. |
| [02:50:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou jasoncohen: where? I don't set qt-dev anywhere. |
| [02:51:00] | mchou: | anyonce who has used myth (like yourself) ought to know you need the mt libs. |
| [02:51:00] | jasoncohen: | Agrajag- mchou: libqt3-mt-dev |
| [02:51:00] | EricAnderson: | mchou: What did you pay for the 150? |
| [02:52:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: what's your point? you like repeating stuff that appears in logs? |
| [02:52:00] | jasoncohen: | that's funny because you told me i didn't have it installed. if you knew i needed the mt deps, why did you say i didn't have qt3-dev when you knew i had qt3-mt-dev? |
| [02:52:00] | jasoncohen: | i'm repeating it because apparently you have forgotten |
| [02:53:00] | mchou: | I didn't know, you fool, I said I didn't see qt-devel libs. |
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| [02:53:00] | mchou: | and that's in the "generic" sense |
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| [02:54:00] | Esotericisms: | anyone know of a good deal on a pvr 150 or 250 right now? |
| [02:54:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: you pressing the point just further reinforces my opinion of you. |
| [02:55:00] | jasoncohen: | um...but, if it's true that "anyone who has used myth ought to know you need the mt libs", why would you say i didn't have the gt-devel libs if you saw i had qt3-mt-dev unless you just didn't see it in which case you were calling me a dumbass because you were too lazy to read |
| [02:55:00] | PoeticIntensity: | I've got a 250 working just fine with my system. |
| [02:55:00] | jasoncohen: | i don't care. It would have been a valid point if you were correct, but you weren't. |
| [02:55:00] | EricAnderson: | Esotericisms: Whats a good deal |
| [02:55:00] | PoeticIntensity: | my only problem is a blue-ish outline while playing movies or watching TV. |
| [02:55:00] | Esotericisms: | less then 100 preferably |
| [02:56:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: you post a crappy unreadable output and you complain about me not being able to read? |
| [02:56:00] | jasoncohen: | i'm not trying to change your opinion of me. I'm making a point that you shouldn't be such an ass in the future. |
| [02:56:00] | Agrajag-: | PoeticIntensity: that's been talked about a lot on the mailing list |
| [02:56:00] | EricAnderson: | Esotericisms: 150's at compusa and circuitcity for 99 |
| [02:56:00] | jasoncohen: | mchou, i then pasted it in pastebin where each dep was on its own line |
| [02:56:00] | PoeticIntensity: | Agrajag: Thanks... Can you point me to a subject? |
| [02:56:00] | PoeticIntensity: | I mean a URL. |
| [02:56:00] | PoeticIntensity: | ..? |
| [02:56:00] | Agrajag-: | PoeticIntensity: first try xvattr -a XV_COLORKEY -v 66048 |
| [02:56:00] | jasoncohen: | anyways, if you didn't feel like reading it- don't. You decided to comment that i was an ass because i didn't have something installed (which i did) |
| [02:56:00] | mchou: | jasoncohen: so? why didn't you post a sorted list in the first place?? |
| [02:57:00] | Agrajag-: | ahh quit this stupid argument |
| [02:57:00] | Esotericisms: | k ... anyone else? |
| [02:57:00] | EricAnderson: | bleh |
| [02:57:00] | PoeticIntensity: | Agrajag: Where do I put that in? I've never tinkered with the TV part of the setup in myth. |
| [02:57:00] | mchou: | heh, exactly. |
| [02:57:00] | jasoncohen: | he asked for it- and i wanted to get him something reasonably quickly. I didn't know i would be called an ass for bad formatting |
| [02:57:00] | EricAnderson: | So, the 150s work fine? Just have to use the dev branch??? |
| [02:58:00] | jasoncohen: | anyways, thank you very much for your help Agrajag |
| [02:58:00] | PoeticIntensity: | It just worked out of the box. |
| [02:58:00] | Agrajag-: | PoeticIntensity: it's a command. you need xvattr installed |
| [02:58:00] | PoeticIntensity: | gotcha. |
| [02:58:00] | PoeticIntensity: | I'll give that a try. |
| [02:58:00] | Agrajag-: | PoeticIntensity: just try running it as a command first to see if it fixes your problem before you put it in a script |
| [02:58:00] | jasoncohen: | do you think it would be worth it to write up a doc for installing the deps (now that i know what they are) for mythtv and especially the plugins where no deps exist? |
| [02:58:00] | jasoncohen: | or do most debian users use the binaries |
| [02:59:00] | Agrajag-: | jasoncohen: dont know.. if there are missing ones in the docs, tell whoever wrote the docs about them |
| [03:00:00] | jasoncohen: | Agrajag-, mythdvd and mythmusic have no instructions for debian so i had to do an apt-cache search on each damn dep and some weren't very obvious |
| [03:00:00] | jasoncohen: | like libcdda= libcdparanoia0 |
| [03:00:00] | jasoncohen: | i imagine the developers of those plugins don't use debian so they probably couldn't do instructions for it |
| [03:01:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah.. maybe just contact the authors saying which debian packages it requires so they can add it to their README's or whatever |
| [03:01:00] | Ashlar: | jasoncohen: I'm sure other debian users would appreciate the help |
| [03:01:00] | jasoncohen: | ok, i'll do that |
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| [03:04:00] | Beirdo: | dopester: you in? |
| [03:07:00] | Ashlar: | jasoncohen: I ran into similar issues with the pseudo-orphaned mythtv-xbox project.. I have a few grey hairs from jumping through those same hoops re mythmusic |
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| [03:07:00] | PoeticIntensity: | Agrajag: Thank you so much. Your command worked perfectly. |
| [03:07:00] | Agrajag-: | no worries |
| [03:07:00] | PoeticIntensity: | I assume I just put that in a start-up script somewhere so it runs every time the computer is booted, right? |
| [03:07:00] | Agrajag-: | yep |
| [03:07:00] | jasoncohen: | Ashlar, i'm making a packagelist of my machine so i can just clone it for my server |
| [03:07:00] | PoeticIntensity: | you da man... Much thanks. |
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| [03:24:00] | ZMorek: | quick question, is there an apt source I can get azureus from? |
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| [03:25:00] | Agrajag-: | ZMorek: wrong channel? |
| [03:25:00] | ZMorek: | yeah... oops... |
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| [03:29:00] | Ashlar: | hrmm.. anyone know of a way to manually run the transcode job so that I can get better debug output? -v jobqueue,commflag doesn't show enough for me to figure out why a transcode's failing |
| [03:32:00] | jasoncohen: | done- here it is |
| [03:32:00] | jasoncohen: | http://pastebin.com/284963 |
| [03:33:00] | Ashlar: | cool |
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| [03:34:00] | jasoncohen: | oh and libqt3c102-mt-mysql for mythtv |
| [03:35:00] | Ashlar: | stop that :P |
| [03:36:00] | jasoncohen: | huh, that was needed |
| [03:36:00] | Ashlar: | I know, but still.. hehe |
| [03:38:00] | m4lu6: | Anybody here happen to be using via VT8233 audio? |
| [03:41:00] | Ashlar: | yah.. mini-itx? |
| [03:42:00] | Ashlar: | (I'm using snd_via82xx) |
| [03:43:00] | m4lu6: | Ashlar, yeah. I have a wierd problem w/sound, wondering if i might trouble you for some advice |
| [03:44:00] | Ashlar: | sure, if I can help |
| [03:44:00] | m4lu6: | i am getting sound, i've got this plugged into my amp, and i have mixer settings on the box all capped out at 100%; |
| [03:44:00] | m4lu6: | my sound is WAY quiet. |
| [03:44:00] | m4lu6: | i have to put my amplifier up to like .. 8 before i get sound |
| [03:44:00] | jasoncohen: | Ashlar, i emailed the author |
| [03:45:00] | jasoncohen: | of mythdvd & mythmusic which happens to be the same person |
| [03:45:00] | Ashlar: | umm.. not to ask a blatantly obvious question, but you do have it hooked into the green jack, right? not the blue one? |
| [03:45:00] | m4lu6: | hehe. yeah. |
| [03:45:00] | Ashlar: | damn, there goes the easy solution |
| [03:46:00] | Ashlar: | OH! |
| [03:46:00] | Ashlar: | wait.. I had the same problem with a guy I built a box for |
| [03:46:00] | m4lu6: | exactly. |
| [03:46:00] | Ashlar: | did you get the case & mobo together? |
| [03:47:00] | m4lu6: | no, i don't think so (box is for a contract i'm working on; it was provided to me by boss) |
| [03:47:00] | Ashlar: | and is the front audio connected? there's a jumper on the mobo for the front audio / rear audio selector |
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| [03:47:00] | m4lu6: | VIA EPIA-PD2 iirc |
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| [03:47:00] | m4lu6: | hmm. that is a decent question. i should pop off the case top and take a look. |
| [03:48:00] | Ashlar: | ahh.. specs might be different.. but check the manual.. there's a jumper that needs to be shorted if you're not using the front audio connector.. if it isn't there, the audio out on the back acts like line out |
| [03:48:00] | m4lu6: | really now. now THAT is very helpful information. |
| [03:48:00] | ** m4lu6 goes googling for manual ** | |
| [03:50:00] | Ashlar: | http://www.viavpsd.com/product/3/4/OG_EPIA-PD_111804.pdf |
| [03:50:00] | m4lu6: | these are kick ass little boards, btw. |
| [03:51:00] | m4lu6: | i've never used a mini-itx before. damn cool |
| [03:51:00] | Ashlar: | yah, I have two older M10k ones |
| [03:51:00] | Ashlar: | waiting for the nano-itx to have good linux support |
| [03:51:00] | m4lu6: | this little nehemiah chip ain't bad once you get kernel compiled for it |
| [03:51:00] | m4lu6: | i'll recompile sometime later this week with some different cflags, see what i come up with |
| [03:52:00] | Ashlar: | yah.. the latest alpha of knoppmyth has x compiled for epia hw decoder, etc etc |
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| [03:54:00] | m4lu6: | i'm working on a really tight deadline with this demo system. i hope to have a chance to test out a few other dists, and knopmyth is right on the top of the list (the demo is a hacked-up myth box) |
| [03:54:00] | m4lu6: | we'll just call it "prurientMyth" |
| [03:54:00] | Ashlar: | heh |
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| [03:58:00] | Ashlar: | m4lu6: check this link.. http://www.viavpsd.com/product/3/4/epia-pd_Ma . . . 0_121203.pdf .. looks like the front audio connector should have two jumpers installed if no front audio is connected |
| [03:59:00] | m4lu6: | what page did you find that on? |
| [03:59:00] | Ashlar: | 2–16 |
| [04:00:00] | Ashlar: | of the link I just posted.. the previous link looks to be the OEM integrator's specs |
| [04:00:00] | m4lu6: | yeah. i was having problems deciphering that 1st pdf ;) |
| [04:00:00] | m4lu6: | lessee. |
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| [04:06:00] | m4lu6: | very curious. |
| [04:06:00] | m4lu6: | looks like those audio ju.. hrmm. |
| [04:08:00] | m4lu6: | i have discovered what i believe to be "mystery wires" |
| [04:08:00] | Ashlar: | eh? |
| [04:10:00] | jasoncohen: | Ashlar, have you tried installing from the debs? |
| [04:10:00] | jasoncohen: | it installs everything but mythmusic |
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| [04:10:00] | jasoncohen: | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| [04:10:00] | jasoncohen: | mythmusic: Depends: libfaad2–0 (>= 2.0.0–0.5) but 2.0.0–0sarge0.5 isto be installed |
| [04:11:00] | twitchmax: | hello everyone |
| [04:11:00] | twitchmax: | i'm having a problem compiling mythtv on amd64 anyone here have any experience? |
| [04:12:00] | Ashlar: | jasoncohen: I ended up using Matt Z's debs |
| [04:12:00] | egsavage: | anyone here ever see ivtv keep thinking a pvr-250 card is really a pvr-150? As a result, it doesn't work (of course) |
| [04:13:00] | jasoncohen: | Ashlar, yeah, i can install everything but mythmusic using his debs |
| [04:13:00] | egsavage: | what is strange is I haven't messed with ivtv for a day or so and the pvr-250 was recognized before |
| [04:13:00] | jasoncohen: | can you install mythmusic? |
| [04:13:00] | Ashlar: | nope, no 0.18 one yet |
| [04:13:00] | Ashlar: | err wayt, that's mythgallery |
| [04:13:00] | Ashlar: | let me check the xbox |
| [04:14:00] | jasoncohen: | jason@jasonslaptop:~$ apt-cache search mythgallery |
| [04:14:00] | jasoncohen: | mythgallery – Image gallery/slideshow add-on module for MythTV |
| [04:14:00] | jasoncohen: | yes there is |
| [04:14:00] | twitchmax: | i'm getting "cc1: error: bad value (k8) for -march= switch |
| [04:14:00] | twitchmax: | cc1: error: bad value (k8) for -mcpu= switch" |
| [04:14:00] | Ashlar: | jasoncohen: it's 0.17 |
| [04:15:00] | m4lu6: | Ashlar, mystery cables are the bloody front panel audio connectors, which, as i have discovered, were all plugged in, but the end connector is sitting here doing nothing. |
| [04:15:00] | Ashlar: | (or it was yesterday) |
| [04:15:00] | m4lu6: | plugged into squat. |
| [04:15:00] | Ashlar: | lol |
| [04:15:00] | jasoncohen: | Ashlar, nope, it's 0.18 |
| [04:16:00] | jasoncohen: | http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists . . . binary-i386/ |
| [04:16:00] | Ashlar: | jasoncohen: you're right.. I just installed it fine |
| [04:16:00] | Ashlar: | phone, game, gallery have yet to be updated |
| [04:16:00] | jasoncohen: | ah, you're right |
| [04:17:00] | jasoncohen: | Ashlar, you were able to install mythmusic? |
| [04:17:00] | jasoncohen: | and you're on sarge? |
| [04:17:00] | Ashlar: | Setting up mythmusic (0.18–3) ... |
| [04:17:00] | jasoncohen: | what does dpkg -l libfaad2 show? |
| [04:18:00] | jasoncohen: | what does dpkg -l libfaad2–0 even |
| [04:18:00] | jasoncohen: | ii libfaad2–0 2.0.0–0sarge0. |
| [04:18:00] | Ashlar: | No packages found matching libfaad2. |
| [04:18:00] | jasoncohen: | libfaad2–0 2.0.0–0sarge0.5 |
| [04:18:00] | Ashlar: | ii libfaad2–0 2.0.0–0.5 |
| [04:18:00] | jasoncohen: | weird |
| [04:20:00] | jasoncohen: | must be from marrillat |
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| [04:21:00] | jasoncohen: | ah libfaad-2.0–0.5 is from unstable |
| [04:21:00] | jasoncohen: | now it works |
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| [04:22:00] | pookSter: | I have a question about the install FAQ Jarod put togther |
| [04:22:00] | pookSter: | He says in the initial configuration "Be sure to choose XFS (or JFS or ReiserFS) as the partition format type for the /video partition, as the selection will default to ext3" |
| [04:22:00] | pookSter: | Druid does not offer JFS or XFS file format |
| [04:23:00] | pookSter: | Should I use EXT3 and change it later? |
| [04:24:00] | jasoncohen: | Ashlar, thanks for the help. I got everything installed. BTW, are you using LVM with debian? |
| [04:24:00] | m4lu6: | christ. i need to find some jumpers :) |
| [04:24:00] | Ashlar: | jasoncohen: yup |
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| [04:25:00] | Ashlar: | m4lu6: completely missing, eh? |
| [04:25:00] | jasoncohen: | Ashlar, will i need to do anything special to have it recognize an existing LVM partition? |
| [04:26:00] | m4lu6: | Ashlar, yeah |
| [04:26:00] | Ashlar: | jasoncohen: when I auto-upgraded via knoppmyth, it recognized an existing volume group / volume |
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| [04:26:00] | UncleWilly: | hello friends |
| [04:27:00] | pookSter: | hello UncleWilly |
| [04:27:00] | UncleWilly: | trying to build the latest from cvs; I get an error: main.cpp:152: error: no matching function for call to 'MythContext::MythContext' |
| [04:27:00] | UncleWilly: | any ideas? |
| [04:27:00] | jasoncohen: | Ashlar, you're using a HD install of knoppmyth? how is it? |
| [04:27:00] | Beirdo: | make clean |
| [04:28:00] | Beirdo: | make distclean even |
| [04:28:00] | Ashlar: | jasoncohen: yah, works like a charm |
| [04:28:00] | UncleWilly: | I am doing a make distclean |
| [04:28:00] | jasoncohen: | Ashlar, how is a HD install of knoppmyth different than debian? |
| [04:29:00] | Ashlar: | jasoncohen: eh, it's been a while since I played with vanilla deb.. I'm too polluted by knoppix and knoppmyth to give you a good answer ;) |
| [04:30:00] | jasoncohen: | heh, ok |
| [04:30:00] | m4lu6: | Ashlar, you sir, are a f**king lifesaver. |
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| [04:31:00] | m4lu6: | snatched two jumpers off a partsbox, and bam. |
| [04:31:00] | m4lu6: | sounds. |
| [04:31:00] | Ashlar: | woot! loud and proud? |
| [04:31:00] | m4lu6: | yeah. |
| [04:31:00] | m4lu6: | waking up the whole neighborhood to "Uoh, YEAH, baybeee. f**K me" |
| [04:31:00] | UncleWilly: | any other thoughts on cvs compile failure in main, mission MythContext::MythContext? |
| [04:31:00] | Ashlar: | LOL |
| [04:31:00] | UncleWilly: | mission -> missin |
| [04:31:00] | m4lu6: | girlfriend just came out, "I knew you should've have taken that pr0n contract." |
| [04:31:00] | UncleWilly: | missing |
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| [04:35:00] | twitchmax: | anyone ever setup myth on amd64? |
| [04:35:00] | ChildeRoland: | I just bought the hardware to build a Myth box, not 64bit tho |
| [04:37:00] | twitchmax: | when i try to compile i get "cc1: error: bad value (k8) for -march/mcpu= switch" |
| [04:37:00] | tibbetts: | The sound on live tv and some recordings is out of sync by a fraction of a second. Is there a common way to fix that? |
| [04:38:00] | iggy: | twitchmax: what version of gcc? |
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| [04:41:00] | twitchmax: | 3.3.5 |
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| [04:50:00] | jasoncohen: | why can't mozplugger and mozilla-acroread be installed? |
| [04:50:00] | jasoncohen: | woops, sorry |
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| [04:53:00] | pookSter: | anyone have a quick answer to my /video partiton question before I do it? |
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| [04:53:00] | Bogus8: | I remember reading that there is no IR Blaster yet for the PVR 150... is this correct still? |
| [04:54:00] | Bogus8: | (driver support) |
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| [04:55:00] | TheUni3: | when i go to mythbrowser, i just see a grey screen and i can't do anything. is there anything i have to do to get it setup? |
| [04:57:00] | pookSter: | Let me ask it a different way. Is it easy to format a partition in XFS if it was originally EXT3? |
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| [05:04:00] | UncleWilly: | looks like mythvideo got merged in to mythtv recently (I don't see it in cvs). true? |
| [05:04:00] | Beirdo: | no |
| [05:05:00] | UncleWilly: | how come it isn't in the root of cvs anymore? |
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| [05:05:00] | Beirdo: | it's under mythplugins |
| [05:05:00] | tibbetts: | pookster: if you are just nuking the filesystem, it is easy to reformat as xfs. But you will lose the data. |
| [05:05:00] | Bogus8: | UncleWilly: I just did an apt-get upgrade and mythvideo was one of the packages updated (has to be recent) |
| [05:05:00] | pookSter: | ok, thanks |
| [05:05:00] | UncleWilly: | why so it is |
| [05:06:00] | pookSter: | tibbetts, I was just confused with Jarod's faq saying to format it with xfs when it doesn't give you that option |
| [05:06:00] | tibbetts: | antecedent failure, I don't know what you mean by "it". But if you don't have a question, don't feel obligated to explain. |
| [05:06:00] | Bogus8: | pookSter: not following you? I formated my /video xfs |
| [05:06:00] | Bogus8: | or something like that |
| [05:07:00] | pookSter: | 23:22] pookSter: He says in the initial configuration "Be sure to choose XFS (or JFS or ReiserFS) as the partition format type for the /video partition, as the selection will default to ext3" |
| [05:07:00] | pookSter: | [23:22] pookSter: Druid does not offer JFS or XFS file format |
| [05:07:00] | Bogus8: | pookSter: ahh.. I did it manually |
| [05:07:00] | pookSter: | or am I missing something in druid |
| [05:08:00] | pookSter: | ah, ok |
| [05:08:00] | Bogus8: | I set it up as an LVM so it was easier to do manually for me |
| [05:08:00] | pookSter: | well, I will format it ext3 first to get the files structure right |
| [05:08:00] | pookSter: | then change it if that is ok to do it that way |
| [05:09:00] | Bogus8: | pookSter: I just left it un partitioned... there is no "getting the file structure right" if you are going to hose it after anyway |
| [05:09:00] | pookSter: | lol, ok |
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| [05:09:00] | defaultro: | Good evening everyone. Is jarod around? |
| [05:11:00] | pookSter: | thanks guys |
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| [05:25:00] | Bogus8: | is there any way to flip the order of the program guide? |
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| [05:38:00] | dopester: | beirdo: now i am |
| [05:39:00] | Beirdo: | have you tried using mpeg2cut on a TS file? |
| [05:44:00] | Beirdo: | dopester: helloo? ;) |
| [05:44:00] | dopester: | hellllooooooo |
| [05:45:00] | dopester: | never |
| [05:45:00] | Beirdo: | ah |
| [05:45:00] | UncleWilly: | crud. re-updated from cvs, verified all was ok ownership/permission-wise, and still I get a failure in the make: no matching function for call to `MythContext::MythContext` |
| [05:45:00] | Beirdo: | I'm just wondering if it works at all for ts |
| [05:45:00] | dopester: | it should |
| [05:45:00] | UncleWilly: | any ideas, anyone? |
| [05:45:00] | Beirdo: | well, it would depend on how well avidemux deals with ts |
| [05:45:00] | dopester: | the ts creation is actually much simplier than the ps creation that is terribly buggy |
| [05:46:00] | dopester: | mpegts.c from ffmpeg is horrid |
| [05:46:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [05:46:00] | dopester: | but i dunno how much of thats dtks fucking around with it |
| [05:46:00] | Beirdo: | well, I'm talking about the external method using nuvexport |
| [05:46:00] | Beirdo: | it uses avidemux |
| [05:46:00] | dopester: | yes |
| [05:46:00] | dopester: | so damn many different mpeg demux apps... hhehe |
| [05:47:00] | dopester: | time for me to finish my "proper beer" and get to bed man.. |
| [05:47:00] | Beirdo: | well, for this, I'm gutting avidemux to take out just the shit I need |
| [05:47:00] | dopester: | ahh |
| [05:47:00] | dopester: | you need to work on archiving hd content :) |
| [05:47:00] | dopester: | my hdd is getting full |
| [05:48:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [05:48:00] | Beirdo: | well, SOMEONE decided to keep the HD2000 |
| [05:48:00] | dopester: | yeah im actually USING it now |
| [05:48:00] | dopester: | you want it? |
| [05:48:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [05:48:00] | Beirdo: | I could still use it |
| [05:48:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [05:48:00] | dopester: | its pretty much worthless to be |
| [05:49:00] | dopester: | er me |
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| [05:49:00] | dopester: | my nightly recordings of bbc news are so bad instead of being 30 minutes they are between 10 and 15 |
| [05:49:00] | Beirdo: | wow |
| [05:49:00] | mchou: | dopester: is the hd2k that bad? |
| [05:49:00] | dopester: | yeah with the air2pc i might loose a minute or two at most |
| [05:50:00] | dopester: | yeah its complete shit if you live in an area with multipath |
| [05:50:00] | mchou: | dopester: how far are your towers? |
| [05:50:00] | dopester: | that station 15 miles |
| [05:50:00] | mchou: | wow, that is crap. |
| [05:50:00] | dopester: | well north carolina has bad multipath |
| [05:50:00] | mchou: | Outdoor antenna? |
| [05:50:00] | dopester: | ive NEVER seen tv with an antenna here without ghosting |
| [05:51:00] | dopester: | yeah rooftop yagi pointed right at it |
| [05:51:00] | mchou: | nasty. |
| [05:51:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [05:51:00] | dopester: | i have 2 yagis stacked |
| [05:51:00] | dopester: | one for pbs and one for the other networks |
| [05:51:00] | Beirdo: | I get perfect from Buffalo across the lake with a loop of wire antenna |
| [05:51:00] | mchou: | dopester: well, maybe the new a2pc is the right thing for ya :) |
| [05:52:00] | dopester: | its the only thing that will help me at all |
| [05:52:00] | dopester: | the hd3k is supposedly about as good as the nxt2002 with reception |
| [05:52:00] | mchou: | (or cable) :) |
| [05:52:00] | dopester: | which is nto acceptable to me |
| [05:52:00] | dopester: | cable doesn't have all of the channels here |
| [05:52:00] | dopester: | i gotta get my univision :) |
| [05:52:00] | Beirdo: | ah sonvabitch, I gotta add support for damn AC3? |
| [05:52:00] | mchou: | yeah, no doubt. |
| [05:52:00] | Beirdo: | This is so annoying |
| [05:53:00] | mchou: | all those mexican buxom babes? |
| [05:53:00] | dopester: | thats the only station my hdtv picked up with rabit ears actually was kinda funny |
| [05:53:00] | Beirdo: | de-gtk'ing code is a PITA |
| [05:53:00] | dopester: | gotta get my jose luis fix |
| [05:53:00] | dopester: | but i think hes on telemundo |
| [05:53:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [05:53:00] | dopester: | at least he was in puerto rico |
| [05:53:00] | mchou: | is he some tele-evangelist?? |
| [05:53:00] | dopester: | hispanic jerry springer |
| [05:54:00] | mchou: | ok, maybe I'm confused :) |
| [05:54:00] | dopester: | seemed every insult just before the chair got thrown ended with tu madre! |
| [05:54:00] | mchou: | hehe. |
| [05:54:00] | dopester: | because i couldnt quite follow what was going on it was a fucking riot |
| [05:54:00] | mchou: | not "malicon!"? |
| [05:54:00] | dopester: | if i spoke fluent spanish it probbably would be no more entertaining than jerry springer |
| [05:55:00] | dopester: | its like watching the korean variety shows on satellite |
| [05:55:00] | dopester: | i have no fucking idea whats going on |
| [05:55:00] | dopester: | so its hillarious |
| [05:55:00] | dopester: | "why is that dude dancing around with a saddam hussien mask on |
| [05:55:00] | mchou: | what I dont get is why all the spanish stations come in super strong and the networks come in so badly..... |
| [05:56:00] | dopester: | my networks come in pretty decent here except for pbs |
| [05:56:00] | mchou: | I can get spanish staions without anything attached.... |
| [05:56:00] | mchou: | dont even need rabbit ears.... |
| [05:57:00] | dopester: | your in cali though right? |
| [05:57:00] | mchou: | yeah. |
| [05:57:00] | dopester: | thats all i needed to know :) |
| [05:57:00] | mchou: | that does explain some things (but not all) :) |
| [05:57:00] | dopester: | blame it on the tetons |
| [05:58:00] | mchou: | big titties?? :) |
| [05:58:00] | Agrajag-: | what do you guys reckon is better.. a projector or large tv |
| [05:58:00] | Beirdo: | ARGH |
| [05:58:00] | dopester: | what about a large projection tv? |
| [05:58:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: oohh, no you're getting religous :) |
| [05:58:00] | Agrajag-: | large tv is gonna cost way more |
| [05:58:00] | mchou: | now* |
| [05:58:00] | Agrajag-: | heh |
| [05:59:00] | Beirdo: | why are they using WAVHeader in an mp2 routine?! |
| [05:59:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: so you in the market for either? |
| [05:59:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah |
| [06:00:00] | mchou: | I dunno, a friend of mine bought an EDTV plasma.....BIG MOFO.... |
| [06:00:00] | Agrajag-: | i guess a projector has ongoing costs (damn those bulbs are expensive!) and probably wouldn't be so good in a bright room |
| [06:00:00] | mchou: | was preety cheap (in comparison to HDTV) |
| [06:00:00] | mchou: | pretty* |
| [06:01:00] | Agrajag-: | but otherwise i can't see why a projector isn't better value |
| [06:01:00] | mchou: | PQ was pretty nice too. |
| [06:01:00] | mchou: | well, that's the deal. You need a really dark room (like basement) |
| [06:02:00] | mchou: | and I'm not so sure the contrast ratio is all that good with PJ..... |
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| [06:02:00] | Agrajag-: | hmm |
| [06:03:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: if you were to get a PJ, which ones are you thinking of? |
| [06:05:00] | Agrajag-: | no idea at all |
| [06:05:00] | Agrajag-: | just been thinking about this in the last 10 minutes |
| [06:06:00] | Bogus8: | is there any way to flip the order of the program guide? |
| [06:06:00] | Agrajag-: | as my brother went to a sony store where they sell 2nds of stuff (sometimes the box it comes in is just a bit messed up, or there's a tiny scratch on the back of the tv or something, and you get heaps of a discount) |
| [06:06:00] | Agrajag-: | and said there was some pretty impressive tv's for quite cheap |
| [06:07:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: hmm, nice. |
| [06:07:00] | mchou: | If that's the case go score a plasma :) |
| [06:07:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah. but it's still a lot of money ($1500 or so, about the cost of a cheapish projector) |
| [06:08:00] | Bogus8: | fuck a plasma LCD is the way to go |
| [06:08:00] | Agrajag-: | and projector's gonna give me a bigger picture :) |
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| [06:08:00] | Bogus8: | Agrajag-: I agree projector is best bang for buck if you got the right space for it |
| [06:09:00] | Agrajag-: | hmm.. and a dark room. and more money when it's time for a new bulb |
| [06:09:00] | Agrajag-: | and see then i'd probably be a tight arse about using it |
| [06:10:00] | Agrajag-: | 'nah lets not watch this on the project. only good movies on the projector' :P |
| [06:10:00] | Agrajag-: | projector rather |
| [06:10:00] | Bogus8: | bulbs aren't THAT expensive |
| [06:10:00] | Agrajag-: | i thought they were > $500 or so |
| [06:11:00] | Bogus8: | I can't imagine that would be the case... definitely can get it cheaper from a better source (internet) |
| [06:15:00] | mchou: | Bogus8: what are you talking about? Bulbs go around $350 at a minimum. |
| [06:15:00] | Bogus8: | mchou: you are shopping at the wrong place |
| [06:15:00] | mchou: | That's the lowest I've seen. |
| [06:15:00] | Agrajag-: | i dunno, for a decent bulb, they do seem about that |
| [06:15:00] | mchou: | Bogus8: bullshit. Tell me where you shop for bulbs. |
| [06:16:00] | Bogus8: | I used to do lighting and used $10k fixtures and the bulbs in those were only like $150 and we are talking about some output! shit that blows up if you don't change it before it's too late |
| [06:16:00] | mchou: | Bogus8: stop bs'ing and cite a link. |
| [06:17:00] | Bogus8: | I don't have any links for tv bulbs but I'm saying that there is NO technology worth $500 in a bulb |
| [06:17:00] | mchou: | Bogus8: right. It's called vendor lock in, not technology. |
| [06:17:00] | Bogus8: | when arc bulbs aren't even that much... just seems fishy to me |
| [06:17:00] | Bogus8: | marketing |
| [06:17:00] | Bogus8: | like a "laptop inverter" |
| [06:18:00] | Bogus8: | smaller and weaker than the one that cost 1/3 as much |
| [06:18:00] | Bogus8: | but it's a "laptop" inverter |
| [06:18:00] | mchou: | Bogus8: yeah, whatever. You've just lost all credibility. |
| [06:18:00] | Bogus8: | wtf you talking about' |
| [06:19:00] | Bogus8: | I'm really not looking for a pissing contest so go fuck with some one else... I got no time |
| [06:19:00] | Beirdo: | Bogus8: behave, please |
| [06:20:00] | Bogus8: | Beirdo: i'm done |
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| [06:26:00] | Beirdo: | well, it's bed time |
| [06:26:00] | marc_in_lux: | just got up :-) |
| [06:29:00] | mchou: | Agrajag-: to bad you dont have costco in .au |
| [06:29:00] | mchou: | too* |
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| [06:34:00] | defaultro: | mchou? |
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| [06:34:00] | ChildeRoland: | Has anyone used a Sempron to build a machine? |
| [06:35:00] | dcfogg: | I am having trouble with my card it is a wintv go from haupaug |
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| [06:35:00] | ChildeRoland: | Shouldve bought a card with an MPeg2 encoder |
| [06:36:00] | dcfogg: | all I get is a green screen with static at the top |
| [06:36:00] | dcfogg: | MPeg2 card wasn't in the buget |
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| [06:37:00] | ChildeRoland: | I havent even built my machine yet, sorry but cant help |
| [06:37:00] | ChildeRoland: | you've tried all the Wikis and mailing lists? |
| [06:38:00] | dcfogg: | I saw a post on gentoo forums about another guy with the same problem but no soulution |
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| [06:45:00] | EricAnderson: | What makes the 250 better than the 150? |
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| [06:51:00] | ChildeRoland: | the 150 is more recent |
| [06:52:00] | ChildeRoland: | its smaller, but the driver support isnt up to par with the 150 yet |
| [06:52:00] | Bogus8: | is there any way to flip the order of the program guide? |
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| [06:57:00] | dcfogg: | do wintv go cards work????? |
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| [07:22:00] | Bogus8: | how do you change the theme if the current theme doesn't have a button for appearance? |
| [07:22:00] | Agrajag-: | manually in the db |
| [07:22:00] | Bogus8: | yikes.. ok |
| [07:23:00] | Agrajag-: | just the Theme setting |
| [07:23:00] | Agrajag-: | (in settings table) |
| [07:24:00] | Bogus8: | never messed with mysql really |
| [07:25:00] | Agrajag-: | echo "update settings set data = 'G.A.N.T.' where value = 'Theme'" > mysql -umythtv -p mythconverg |
| [07:25:00] | Agrajag-: | or somethign along those lines |
| [07:26:00] | Bogus8: | that's at the mysql prompt right |
| [07:26:00] | Agrajag-: | add " and hostname = 'whatever' " if you want to set it for a sepcific host |
| [07:26:00] | Agrajag-: | no |
| [07:26:00] | Bogus8: | oh I see the end |
| [07:26:00] | opello: | mysql -u mythtv -p -e "query;" mythconverg |
| [07:26:00] | Agrajag-: | if you're at the mysql prompt just |
| [07:26:00] | Agrajag-: | update settings set data = 'G.A.N.T.' where value = 'Theme' |
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| [07:27:00] | TV_Dunce: | hello all |
| [07:27:00] | TV_Dunce: | the dunce is back |
| [07:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hey Bogus8 how goes mythtv these days get your setup workin? |
| [07:28:00] | TV_Dunce: | can anyone tell me how to check if a driver is installed for my pvr250 card ? and if not, how to install the ivtv driver ? |
| [07:28:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: not with S-Vid but composite works... OH and audio finally ;) |
| [07:28:00] | TV_Dunce: | i am running ubuntu – 5.04 a64 version |
| [07:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Bogus8: nice |
| [07:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Bogus8: http://www.bbspot.com/News/2005/01/microsoft_antispyware.html check that out its great |
| [07:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so nogo on svideo eh :/ |
| [07:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats a bummer |
| [07:29:00] | TV_Dunce: | i dl the ivtv drivers, but i can't seem to install them |
| [07:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | TV_Dunce: run umm ivtvctl and see if it does anything that will tell ya if its installed |
| [07:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Usage: |
| [07:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | -h, --help display this help message |
| [07:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | should say something like that |
| [07:30:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and alot more |
| [07:31:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: is that real? I'm thinking that's a spoof |
| [07:31:00] | TV_Dunce: | command not found |
| [07:31:00] | TV_Dunce: | :( |
| [07:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont know I havent had time to google it yet Bogus8 |
| [07:31:00] | TV_Dunce: | i guess there is not a driver installed |
| [07:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | TV_Dunce: did you manually install it? |
| [07:31:00] | TV_Dunce: | i tried |
| [07:31:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: the MS dude is quoted as saying "tough shit"?? |
| [07:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what distro? |
| [07:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Bogus8: that was weatherbee thats not a microsoft company |
| [07:31:00] | ** KarlosII curses ** | |
| [07:31:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I would tell microsoft tuff shit too |
| [07:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and laugh like a madman |
| [07:32:00] | TV_Dunce: | i tried the 'make' and it gets an error 'no such directory" |
| [07:32:00] | Bogus8: | "Elias Weatherbee, a Microsoft representative," |
| [07:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | my bad |
| [07:32:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I thought it was talking about that stupid ass spyware thing that weather thingo |
| [07:32:00] | TV_Dunce: | i have the 2.6.10.5 kernel, so I think it should install ok |
| [07:33:00] | TV_Dunce: | i just can't make it compile |
| [07:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | btw TV_Dunce when all installed and run ivtvctl it should say this http://rafb.net/paste/results/0YDXEd16.html |
| [07:33:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats the fulll information |
| [07:33:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: but what is funny I heard IE 7 was going to have some fancy pants tabbed browsing and I looked at MS's site about IE 7 and all they talked about was security... not mentioning any other features |
| [07:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Bogus8: I bet they scale back the features to deliver it on time |
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| [07:34:00] | ** SlicerDicer- uses the microsoft motto 'lash back we cant do what we said we suck' ** | |
| [07:34:00] | TV_Dunce: | i will try to do a make again and tell you the error i get |
| [07:34:00] | SlicerDicer-: | alright TV_Dunce although keep in mind I use gentoo and just ran emerge ivtv and it was done like buttah for me |
| [07:34:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: I just think it's funny they have such a bad rep that that is the most important "feature" of "what's coming in IE 7" |
| [07:35:00] | SlicerDicer-: | haha |
| [07:35:00] | TV_Dunce: | nautilus |
| [07:35:00] | Bogus8: | still not getting this theme thing changed :( |
| [07:35:00] | TV_Dunce: | oops |
| [07:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Bogus8: I love that though security is a big feature |
| [07:36:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well I mean who can argue with that anyway lets be honest its a major selling point of the leeenux |
| [07:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and even apples stuff |
| [07:37:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: yeah but most other browsers don't have to tout it as a MAJOR feature... it's almost just understood |
| [07:37:00] | Agrajag-: | Bogus8: did you restart the frontend? |
| [07:37:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well they want to get it out there that they are "secure" and "safe" I cant blame them BWA HA HA! |
| [07:37:00] | Bogus8: | Agrajag-: yeah, but I don't think mysql is taking the command correctly |
| [07:37:00] | Bogus8: | it just drops down to an -> |
| [07:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Bogus8: what differnece does it make anyway to microsoft if anybody uses their browser |
| [07:38:00] | SlicerDicer-: | makes no sence for them to expell that much cash and should be happy that others are making a better browser |
| [07:38:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: good question.. why should they care... but yet they do so very much |
| [07:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its a act of lunacy imo |
| [07:39:00] | TV_Dunce: | here is the error |
| [07:39:00] | TV_Dunce: | /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-amd64-generic/build: No such file or directory |
| [07:39:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: obviously it's a control issue... or a big brother type of thing |
| [07:39:00] | Agrajag-: | Bogus8: add a ; at the end |
| [07:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yeah well Bogus8 you just brought up a interesting point there |
| [07:39:00] | TV_Dunce: | wtf is that ? |
| [07:39:00] | TV_Dunce: | why does it do that ? |
| [07:39:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no idea TV_Dunce perhaps you did not build something right with the kernel |
| [07:39:00] | TV_Dunce: | i follow the direcition |
| [07:40:00] | Bogus8: | Agrajag-: oh yeah! |
| [07:40:00] | TV_Dunce: | the kernel is what came with ubuntu |
| [07:40:00] | TV_Dunce: | i haven't modified it |
| [07:40:00] | TV_Dunce: | i'm just trying to install this driver |
| [07:40:00] | Cardoe: | score |
| [07:40:00] | Cardoe: | new Gentoo ebuild |
| [07:40:00] | Cardoe: | :) |
| [07:40:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: like you said it's lunacy to expend that much time and money on something that they don't profit from |
| [07:40:00] | TV_Dunce: | the direction say 'make' |
| [07:40:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Bogus8: see microsoft wants to control "server" market and by making IE only work with that stuff then they can further dominate and knock out linux or so they think?!?! I mean it does not make sence in the slightest as IE can still read linux servers data just fine unless they are going to go to bad renderings and total screwball jobs done ont hem |
| [07:40:00] | TV_Dunce: | 'make install' |
| [07:40:00] | Cardoe: | any Gentoo users? |
| [07:41:00] | TV_Dunce: | where am i going wrong here ? |
| [07:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe: lookin at one |
| [07:41:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: 0.18-r1? |
| [07:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | TV_Dunce: when I did mythtv with gentoo I had to redo my kernel to accept it |
| [07:41:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe: yep |
| [07:42:00] | TV_Dunce: | aaargh |
| [07:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | if I had not redone my kernel ivtv would not have worked TV_Dunce |
| [07:42:00] | TV_Dunce: | like i know how to do that |
| [07:42:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: yeah, it would be kind of silly to make IE not work with linux/apache systems as everyone would be forced to use a different browser vs forcing webhost to use windows boxes |
| [07:42:00] | SlicerDicer-: | exactly its a totally screwball plan anyway you slice it and is just a total act of lunacy like I said Bogus8 |
| [07:42:00] | TV_Dunce: | it says @ ittv, that kernel 2.6.10 should work with it |
| [07:43:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: makes you think that they must be up to something more underhanded |
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| [07:43:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: do you use the Mythfrontend ebuild? |
| [07:43:00] | TV_Dunce: | i'm totally lost here |
| [07:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont know TV_Dunce I just know I had to rebuild my kernel and add custom modules to make it work |
| [07:43:00] | TV_Dunce: | i don't know how to do it |
| [07:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe: yeppers want the /etc/portage/package.keywords I use for frontend? |
| [07:43:00] | TV_Dunce: | i even tried knoppmyth, (didn't work) |
| [07:43:00] | MiX-MaN: | every time i try to compile mythgallery it keeps erroring with: make[2]: *** [qtiffio.o] Error 1 ... any clue what im doing wrong or what i need to install? |
| [07:43:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: would you be opposed if I moved the frontend script with the mythtv ebuild |
| [07:43:00] | TV_Dunce: | it all works great in Windows XP |
| [07:43:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: and make it triggered on USEflag? |
| [07:43:00] | SlicerDicer-: | TV_Dunce: use gentoo :) the documentation thats with it you cant go wrong may take some time but you cant go wrong just follow the instructions step by step |
| [07:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what do you mean Cardoe? |
| [07:44:00] | Cardoe: | MiX-MaN: gotta go higher up. |
| [07:44:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: USE="frontendonly" emerge mythtv |
| [07:44:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: would be the replacement for mythfrontend |
| [07:44:00] | TV_Dunce: | there must be a way to make this work with what i have |
| [07:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no Cardoe |
| [07:44:00] | Cardoe: | TV_Dunce: what do you have |
| [07:44:00] | TV_Dunce: | i'm sure others have it working |
| [07:44:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe: hang on |
| [07:44:00] | TV_Dunce: | ununtu a64 |
| [07:44:00] | TV_Dunce: | 5.04 |
| [07:44:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: I'm asking you if you'd be opposed to it |
| [07:45:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I would not advise it |
| [07:45:00] | TV_Dunce: | i just need to install the ittv driver |
| [07:45:00] | MiX-MaN: | we gotta pastebin here? |
| [07:45:00] | TV_Dunce: | for the hauppauge card |
| [07:45:00] | TV_Dunce: | it can't be that hard to install a driver |
| [07:45:00] | Bogus8: | Agrajag-: that worked thanks! |
| [07:46:00] | MiX-MaN: | Cardoe: where can i paste this at? |
| [07:46:00] | TV_Dunce: | i'd be happy even if TVtime would play |
| [07:46:00] | TV_Dunce: | lol |
| [07:46:00] | Agrajag-: | Bogus8: no worries |
| [07:46:00] | Cardoe: | MiX-MaN: pastebin.ca .com .whatever |
| [07:46:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe: add http://rafb.net/paste/results/iAnOWF78.html that to /etc/package.keywords and run 'emerge mythvideo mythdvd mythbrowser mythgallery mythmusic mythnews mythweather mythtv-themes mythfrontend' should fire away just fine |
| [07:46:00] | MiX-MaN: | k |
| [07:47:00] | TV_Dunce: | surely it can't be that difficult to install a driver here |
| [07:47:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: I'm the Gentoo dev who handles MythTV |
| [07:47:00] | TV_Dunce: | or, am I nuts |
| [07:47:00] | Cardoe: | I'm just asking if you'd be opposed to that change happening |
| [07:47:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well shit Cardoe color me stupid |
| [07:47:00] | riksta: | Cardoe: i just replied to you in dev chan |
| [07:47:00] | MiX-MaN: | Cardoe: http://pastebin.com/285000 — thats everything that came up after make |
| [07:48:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe: I thought you were asking something else haha scuse me let me reread |
| [07:48:00] | TV_Dunce: | is there a channel that is more geared to the help i need ? i don't want to ask in the wrong place .... |
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| [07:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well Cardoe I do use the mythfrontend ebuild |
| [07:49:00] | Cardoe: | MiX-MaN: http://www.libtiff.org/ |
| [07:49:00] | Cardoe: | MiX-MaN: download the tiff lib. you're missing it |
| [07:49:00] | MiX-MaN: | thanks |
| [07:49:00] | SlicerDicer-: | are you wanting to remove that ebuild and make it to where you have to add the useflag to get the frontend by itself? |
| [07:50:00] | TV_Dunce: | i've been trying to make it go for over a week, and i'm stumped by this driver problem |
| [07:50:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: did you see that move Antitrust? |
| [07:50:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Bogus8: yep |
| [07:50:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: rather obvious that they were taking a shot at MS |
| [07:51:00] | TV_Dunce: | can anyone recommend where i can go for help with this ? if not here ? |
| [07:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Bogus8: ohh hell yeah |
| [07:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | TV_Dunce: like I said give gentoo a whirl it was next to plug and play for me minus the compile times |
| [07:51:00] | SlicerDicer-: | and you said your doing it on 64bit so it will take crap for compile times |
| [07:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe: did you see what I said above? |
| [07:52:00] | TV_Dunce: | i can't wipe out my whole computer for this |
| [07:52:00] | TV_Dunce: | i need to make this one work |
| [07:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ohh.... |
| [07:52:00] | TV_Dunce: | everything else works great |
| [07:52:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: exactly |
| [07:52:00] | Cardoe: | remove the mythfrotnend |
| [07:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I would rather see it stay |
| [07:52:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its nice to just run emerge mythfrontend and be done with it |
| [07:52:00] | Cardoe: | and make it USEflag to only get the frontend |
| [07:52:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: no one really cares in this country, as long as McDonald's is open and they can super size it they are happy |
| [07:52:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: wouldn't be much of a diff |
| [07:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Bogus8: I go to burgerking kkthx |
| [07:53:00] | Bogus8: | :p |
| [07:53:00] | TV_Dunce: | might as well just go back to XP |
| [07:53:00] | TV_Dunce: | lol |
| [07:53:00] | TV_Dunce: | at least i can install a driver in XP |
| [07:53:00] | TV_Dunce: | fock |
| [07:53:00] | TV_Dunce: | i feel so damn stupid |
| [07:53:00] | SlicerDicer-: | TV_Dunce: I went to gentoo cause no other distro did what I wanted or offered the flexibilty |
| [07:53:00] | TV_Dunce: | i understand |
| [07:54:00] | TV_Dunce: | but, i have a lot of time invested in my system |
| [07:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | everything was a nightmare cept gentoo I tried fedora, debian, slackware and the lot when I got my new 64bit system and ran into nothing but trouble so I went back to gentoo and have no reason to take my sights off it |
| [07:54:00] | TV_Dunce: | it shouldn't be hard to put in a driver for the card |
| [07:54:00] | TV_Dunce: | why would it be difficult |
| [07:54:00] | TV_Dunce: | if i knew how to do it |
| [07:54:00] | Cardoe: | emerge ivtv |
| [07:54:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe: I just think its nice having the mythfrontend ebuild seperate cause it causes for less confusion for newbies like me I would have been lost if I had to use a useflag |
| [07:54:00] | ** Cardoe gets a drink. ** | |
| [07:55:00] | Cardoe: | Oh look |
| [07:55:00] | Cardoe: | driver is done |
| [07:55:00] | Cardoe: | TV_Dunce: that's the Gentoo way |
| [07:55:00] | Cardoe: | ;) |
| [07:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe: exactly |
| [07:55:00] | TV_Dunce: | what is the gentoo way ? |
| [07:55:00] | TV_Dunce: | emerge ? |
| [07:55:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well its portage and its very clever |
| [07:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | most things all you have to do is emerge foo and it just works |
| [07:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no fuss no muss |
| [07:56:00] | TV_Dunce: | mine is debian |
| [07:56:00] | TV_Dunce: | should be easy, too |
| [07:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | may take a while to compile somethings but its great no dependencies etc if there is something special you need to do such as mythtv there is usually a howto that is well well written |
| [07:56:00] | SlicerDicer-: | let me show you a example |
| [07:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV |
| [07:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | look at that |
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| [07:57:00] | SlicerDicer-: | tells you how to do your kernel and everything so simple :) |
| [07:58:00] | TV_Dunce: | that looks very complicated for me ..... |
| [07:58:00] | challenged: | im trying to setup the mysql database for mythtv but i seem to have screwed up the mythtv-database |
| [07:58:00] | TV_Dunce: | i think maybe i too stupid to do linux |
| [07:58:00] | TV_Dunce: | :( |
| [07:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | its not just follow what it says after you have installed gentoo with the documentation |
| [07:58:00] | TV_Dunce: | i had high hopes |
| [07:58:00] | SlicerDicer-: | you should be able to handle that no problem |
| [07:59:00] | challenged: | anyone have any idea where i can change the hostname that the mythtv-databse.deb uses? |
| [07:59:00] | TV_Dunce: | i can't destroy mywhole distro |
| [07:59:00] | TV_Dunce: | it works fine |
| [07:59:00] | TV_Dunce: | doesn't anybody use a debian in here ? |
| [07:59:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hang on a sec TV_Dunce cause I have seen you here for days trying to figure this out I feel kinda sorry for ya |
| [08:00:00] | TV_Dunce: | lol |
| [08:00:00] | Agrajag-: | challenged: i think you want a ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [08:00:00] | NightMonkey: | So, anybody sign up with LxMSuite yet? |
| [08:00:00] | SlicerDicer-: | TV_Dunce: you said you use AMD64 right? |
| [08:00:00] | TV_Dunce: | yes |
| [08:00:00] | TV_Dunce: | it took me weeks to get this thing working good |
| [08:01:00] | TV_Dunce: | i have audio, video working great, samba etc |
| [08:01:00] | TV_Dunce: | all work perfect |
| [08:01:00] | TV_Dunce: | it was hard for me to even do that stuff |
| [08:01:00] | SlicerDicer-: | http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml give that a lookover just follow what it says to type step by step dont skip things unless it tells you too. You will be very suprised how easy everything works |
| [08:01:00] | TV_Dunce: | so, i don't want to wipe it out |
| [08:01:00] | TV_Dunce: | ok |
| [08:02:00] | challenged: | Agrajag-, /etc/mythtv has that file and the contents relate to mythtv user which is after what im doing i thnk |
| [08:02:00] | TV_Dunce: | i will look at it |
| [08:02:00] | TV_Dunce: | but, i really need to make this one work |
| [08:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | just give it a look :) it may look like a heap to look at but as you do it you knock it down |
| [08:02:00] | challenged: | Agrajag-, : im litterally up to creating the new database but i put in the wrong hosename 8/ |
| [08:02:00] | challenged: | hostname |
| [08:02:00] | TV_Dunce: | it's only a driver install |
| [08:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | it does not take long I do it all by memory now cause I have installed gentoo so much :) |
| [08:02:00] | TV_Dunce: | shouldn't be hard |
| [08:02:00] | Agrajag-: | challenged: i dunno what you mean |
| [08:02:00] | Agrajag-: | challenged: as in your creating the mythconverg database? |
| [08:03:00] | Agrajag-: | just use mysql -umythtv -p mythconverg -h whateverhostnameyouwant < mc.sql |
| [08:03:00] | Agrajag-: | (if that's what you're talking about.. not sure what you're on about) |
| [08:03:00] | UncleWilly: | just installed the latest cvs, and recordings don't show full screen. anyone seen this? |
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| [08:03:00] | challenged: | Agrajag-, im creating the actuall db and users i think |
| [08:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | TV_Dunce: if its your only computer its highly advised to print the manual I did and I keep it as my bible by my desk just incase of a rainy day :) |
| [08:04:00] | Agrajag-: | UncleWilly: try changing the aspect ratio? is that the problem? |
| [08:04:00] | TV_Dunce: | thanks for the help |
| [08:04:00] | TV_Dunce: | i give up |
| [08:04:00] | TV_Dunce: | lol |
| [08:04:00] | TV_Dunce: | l8rz |
| [08:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | TV_Dunce: :/ |
| [08:04:00] | TV_Dunce: | it can't be hard to do this in debian |
| [08:05:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah debian is where it's at |
| [08:05:00] | Agrajag-: | :) |
| [08:05:00] | TV_Dunce: | maybe there is a debian channel that can tell me how to install a driver |
| [08:05:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well obviously it is.. I dont mean to stab debian I know quite a few people who run it but its obviously not working |
| [08:05:00] | TV_Dunce: | i just am missing something obvious |
| [08:05:00] | challenged: | TV_Dunce, im a deb user what you need? also the channel is #debian |
| [08:05:00] | TV_Dunce: | because i'm a newbie |
| [08:06:00] | TV_Dunce: | i need to install an ivtv driver |
| [08:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | challenged: sweet glad somebody can help him I just dont have the debian knowing I just use emerge :) |
| [08:06:00] | TV_Dunce: | lol |
| [08:06:00] | TV_Dunce: | emerge works in debian ? |
| [08:06:00] | Agrajag-: | TV_Dunce: no |
| [08:06:00] | TV_Dunce: | oh |
| [08:06:00] | challenged: | ahh kk.....sec i did that earlier today |
| [08:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Agrajag-: I am sure with a huge headache you could :P |
| [08:07:00] | UncleWilly: | good thought, Agrajag-, but that's not it. funny thing is, after you open a recording, then exit back to the menu, the menu isn't full screen anymore either |
| [08:07:00] | Agrajag-: | oh. check your appearance settings? |
| [08:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe: anyway thanks for asking about that |
| [08:07:00] | Agrajag-: | there are settings for playback window size and stuff |
| [08:07:00] | challenged: | there is no deb file for it 8/ but i did this and it worked on the current ivtv source http://ivtv.writeme.ch/tiki-index.php?page=debian-compile-ivtv |
| [08:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Cardoe: I really would rather see that frontend ebuild stay its alot nicer to have it seperate. I think that having to use a useflag could cause confusion as I never hardly ever use them |
| [08:08:00] | TV_Dunce: | i'll look at that page |
| [08:08:00] | challenged: | im on a pvr-150 so i just modprobe ivtv once ive installed etc |
| [08:08:00] | TV_Dunce: | i can't get it to compile |
| [08:08:00] | TV_Dunce: | i get an error of 'directory not found' |
| [08:09:00] | TV_Dunce: | /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-amd64-generic/build: No such file or directory |
| [08:09:00] | challenged: | in what section? paste it to #flood or somewhere |
| [08:09:00] | challenged: | and what filename you using? |
| [08:09:00] | TV_Dunce: | that is what happens on 'make' |
| [08:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | TV_Dunce: use rafb.net/paste to paste errors :) great place |
| [08:09:00] | TV_Dunce: | that was the error |
| [08:10:00] | challenged: | your on amd? |
| [08:10:00] | TV_Dunce: | yes |
| [08:10:00] | challenged: | custom kernel? |
| [08:10:00] | TV_Dunce: | no, generic kernel |
| [08:10:00] | TV_Dunce: | i don't know how to build a kernel |
| [08:10:00] | challenged: | hmm you have your kernel sources/headers & build-essential loaded? |
| [08:11:00] | TV_Dunce: | i don't think so |
| [08:11:00] | SlicerDicer-: | challenged: does he have to build a custom kernel for ivtv? |
| [08:11:00] | TV_Dunce: | the dirctions just say 'make' and 'make install' |
| [08:11:00] | TV_Dunce: | for ivtv |
| [08:12:00] | TV_Dunce: | the kernel sources etc, i dunno about that |
| [08:12:00] | TV_Dunce: | maybe is the problem, |
| [08:12:00] | challenged: | ok well run apt-get install build-essential and apt-get install kernel-headers-2.6.10-5-amd64 |
| [08:12:00] | challenged: | see if they make a difference |
| [08:12:00] | TV_Dunce: | just like that ? exactly ? |
| [08:12:00] | challenged: | SlicerDicer-, shouldnt...only reason i made a new kernel was nvidia drivers |
| [08:13:00] | challenged: | yeah should be right |
| [08:14:00] | TV_Dunce: | cool – i need to find my disk .... brb |
| [08:14:00] | challenged: | kk |
| [08:14:00] | SlicerDicer-: | interesting that the kernel headers are not installed automagicly... |
| [08:15:00] | challenged: | ivtv-0.2.0-rc3j.tgz worked for me earlier with just those installed i thinks.. |
| [08:15:00] | challenged: | SlicerDicer-, we have prebuilt kernels....various versions just as easy as apt-get install NEWKERNEL VERSION |
| [08:15:00] | TV_Dunce: | thanks fer helping .... |
| [08:16:00] | challenged: | different kernel has different headers specific to it |
| [08:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | challenged: of course it does |
| [08:16:00] | SlicerDicer-: | challenged: just kinda odd that it requires you to manually add them thats all |
| [08:16:00] | challenged: | SlicerDicer-, : i just meant that we have images already compiled so we dont need the headers very often |
| [08:16:00] | TV_Dunce: | couldn't find package 'kernel headers' |
| [08:16:00] | TV_Dunce: | :/ |
| [08:17:00] | challenged: | SlicerDicer-, only 1 step tho no symlinking etc needed |
| [08:17:00] | TV_Dunce: | hmmm |
| [08:17:00] | challenged: | kernel-headers-2.6.10-5-amd64\ |
| [08:17:00] | SlicerDicer-: | challenged: Prebuilt kernels are nice but can be a pain. I prefer to build them how I want and remove any excess garbage I dont need :) |
| [08:18:00] | challenged: | apt-cache search kernel-headers-2.6.10 |
| [08:18:00] | TV_Dunce: | 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic |
| [08:18:00] | TV_Dunce: | would that be the one ? that is what i am running |
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| [08:18:00] | TV_Dunce: | ? |
| [08:18:00] | challenged: | SlicerDicer-, : yeah the prebuilt can be a bit cumbersome but it also just works for alot of people hehe.... |
| [08:18:00] | SlicerDicer-: | yep that they do :) |
| [08:19:00] | challenged: | SlicerDicer-, a comiler in the hands of a noob can be an amazing weapon of mass destruction heh |
| [08:19:00] | SlicerDicer-: | but hell I still run 2.6.7 kernel on oneof my boxes and 2.6.9 on this one with the latest nvidia drivers "they say not to lol" |
| [08:19:00] | TV_Dunce: | lol |
| [08:20:00] | challenged: | if you get rid of agart dri and rivafb then any should be ok |
| [08:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I never run it anyway |
| [08:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | so its not a problem |
| [08:20:00] | challenged: | fuck i hate it when im trying to find 1 variable in one script and i cant find the bugger |
| [08:20:00] | TV_Dunce: | it can't find kernel headers at all |
| [08:20:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I have had agart disabled for hell since I started using gentoo hehe |
| [08:21:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Bogus8: you still around? |
| [08:21:00] | Bogus8: | is there a key that goes straight to the program guide? |
| [08:21:00] | Bogus8: | no :p |
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| [08:21:00] | TV_Dunce: | no kernel headers, i guess |
| [08:21:00] | TV_Dunce: | that is probably the problem |
| [08:22:00] | challenged: | TV_Dunce, is this a brand new install? |
| [08:23:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: I was joking, what's up? |
| [08:23:00] | TV_Dunce: | it's about 5 weeks old |
| [08:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Bogus8: well thats just too bad |
| [08:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | lol |
| [08:23:00] | SlicerDicer-: | typed that in response to the 'no :p' and it looked a bit wrong lol |
| [08:24:00] | SlicerDicer-: | your using the pvr-500 correct? |
| [08:24:00] | Bogus8: | close enough pvr 150 |
| [08:24:00] | ** SlicerDicer- slaps face ** | |
| [08:25:00] | TV_Dunce: | where would i find kernel headers ? there's not much info at ubuntu about them |
| [08:25:00] | challenged: | pvr-500 = 2x 150s on one card.....tuner = 57,57 |
| [08:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I was thinking your svideo in might be a bad ebuild of ivtv something went fubar did you try a different version? |
| [08:25:00] | challenged: | TV_Dunce, are you ubuntu or sarge? |
| [08:25:00] | Bogus8: | well in that case I should point out that I have a type 39 tuner |
| [08:25:00] | TV_Dunce: | ubuntu |
| [08:25:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: how many ;) |
| [08:25:00] | SlicerDicer-: | errr... |
| [08:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | what you mean how many? |
| [08:26:00] | Bogus8: | I tried a "few" different drivers |
| [08:26:00] | challenged: | TV_Dunce, unbutu do their kernel source different to debian i thinkg...best try the #ubuntu forum fr more info.... |
| [08:26:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Bogus8: gentoo correct? |
| [08:26:00] | Bogus8: | SlicerDicer-: close enough fc3 (ok that one wasn't "close enough" ;) ) |
| [08:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | Bogus8: well that just shot a shithole in my plan |
| [08:27:00] | UncleWilly: | argh. played with all the setup options, and can't fix: in the latest cvs build, when I view a recording, it's displayed in a window (bordered). and when I exit the recording, the menu is in a window as well. |
| [08:27:00] | SlicerDicer-: | sorry Bogus8 I had a plan but its gone now :/ |
| [08:28:00] | Bogus8: | is it normal for when you first go live for it to hiccup a few times every few seconds for like the first 20 – 30 seconds/ |
| [08:28:00] | SlicerDicer-: | no not for me |
| [08:28:00] | Bogus8: | lol no prob... composite is ok till they fix it |
| [08:28:00] | Bogus8: | doesn't make sense to do that here either.. my system resources have heaps of headroom |
| [08:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | maybe your driver is fubar like I thought initially |
| [08:29:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I just dont know how to compare what I am using to yours |
| [08:29:00] | TV_Dunce: | seems weird that there are no kernel header packages |
| [08:30:00] | Bogus8: | the hiccups are tollerable since they only last for a few seconds.. and they are VERY small |
| [08:30:00] | challenged: | TV_Dunce, there will be some it just where they live |
| [08:30:00] | challenged: | mc |
| [08:30:00] | TV_Dunce: | they could live on a different planet |
| [08:30:00] | TV_Dunce: | lol |
| [08:30:00] | TV_Dunce: | because they ain't on this one :) |
| [08:32:00] | challenged: | try finding 'comiling ubuntu kernel......you need them to compile a kernel so hopefully that would shhed light on how to get them |
| [08:32:00] | TV_Dunce: | ok --- i'll google that |
| [08:35:00] | Bogus8: | is there a key that goes straight to the program guide? |
| [08:36:00] | TV_Dunce: | hmmm |
| [08:36:00] | TV_Dunce: | maybe the build essentials contained them ? |
| [08:37:00] | TV_Dunce: | nope |
| [08:37:00] | TV_Dunce: | i still get .. /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-amd64-generic/build: No such file or directory. Stop. |
| [08:37:00] | TV_Dunce: | and 'error 2' |
| [08:39:00] | TV_Dunce: | i think this is not going to happen :( |
| [08:39:00] | TV_Dunce: | too hard fer a noob |
| [08:40:00] | TV_Dunce: | would this be something ? |
| [08:40:00] | TV_Dunce: | linux-headers-2.6.10-5-amd64-k8 |
| [08:40:00] | TV_Dunce: | ?? |
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| [08:43:00] | challenged: | TV_Dunce, umm yeah thats a headers version....but you want generic not k8 |
| [08:43:00] | challenged: | if there is one |
| [08:43:00] | TV_Dunce: | i don't see a generic |
| [08:43:00] | TV_Dunce: | one |
| [08:44:00] | challenged: | hmm well you could grab those...shouldnt make much diff |
| [08:44:00] | TV_Dunce: | i think they are on the computer |
| [08:44:00] | challenged: | hmm |
| [08:44:00] | TV_Dunce: | i did an apt-cache search for kernel |
| [08:45:00] | TV_Dunce: | but it doesn't say where they are |
| [08:45:00] | laga: | any idea how i can tell mythplugins from CVS to use a prefix? it installs everything into /share and /lib instead of /usr/local/something. |
| [08:45:00] | TV_Dunce: | anyway, i have to crash ---- thanks fer the help ---- maybe i can get back here tomorrow ...... |
| [08:46:00] | TV_Dunce: | i'm stumped right now --- seems a really tricky thing for me |
| [08:46:00] | TV_Dunce: | l8rz :) |
| [08:47:00] | laga: | you can make it ;) |
| [08:47:00] | laga: | have a spiffy night ;) |
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| [09:48:00] | Bogus8: | any idea why I'm getting this error when trying to apt-get upgrade : |
| [09:48:00] | Bogus8: | myththemes >= 0.18 is needed by (installed) mythtv-suite-0.18–52.at.i386 |
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| [09:49:00] | laga: | myththemes >= 0.18 is probably not available |
| [09:49:00] | laga: | BleedAway: tried an apt-get update first? |
| [09:50:00] | Bogus8: | laga: I did |
| [09:50:00] | laga: | oh. dunno then. |
| [09:50:00] | laga: | be glad, my rpm is way more broken than yours. |
| [09:51:00] | laga: | depency hell, and i cant fix it because my rpm doesnt install most of the packages anymore ;) |
| [09:51:00] | Bogus8: | hehe |
| [09:52:00] | Bogus8: | the themes package should be availible |
| [09:52:00] | Bogus8: | The following packages will be upgraded |
| [09:52:00] | Bogus8: | mythtv-themes |
| [09:52:00] | Bogus8: | that's what apt-get upgrade gives me |
| [09:55:00] | Cardoe: | laga: you're a Gentoo guy right? |
| [09:57:00] | laga: | Cardoe: some of my boxen run gentoo, yessir. not my mythtv box, though. |
| [09:57:00] | Cardoe: | oh |
| [09:57:00] | Cardoe: | ok |
| [09:57:00] | laga: | Cardoe: do you need testing for some new ebuilds? ;) |
| [10:00:00] | Cardoe: | yeah |
| [10:00:00] | Cardoe: | I just pushed 0.18.1 ebuilds in |
| [10:00:00] | Cardoe: | but masked them |
| [10:00:00] | Cardoe: | since I have to clean up the plugins first. |
| [10:00:00] | laga: | well, sorry, i have to run CVS for now. :/ |
| [10:00:00] | Cardoe: | there's no more mythfrontend ebuild |
| [10:01:00] | Cardoe: | it lives with mythtv |
| [10:01:00] | Cardoe: | as a USE flag |
| [10:01:00] | laga: | nice one |
| [10:01:00] | Cardoe: | I wonder how many "HEY 0.18.1 is OUT!!!" bugs I'm gonna get. |
| [10:01:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [10:02:00] | SlicerDicer-: | hi Cardoe |
| [10:02:00] | laga: | i really have to fix my portage first, though. i cant upgrade things because some stupid package blocks it, and i cant get it fixed. i probably should read the portage manual again more carefully. |
| [10:03:00] | SlicerDicer-: | thats to bad that the frontend ebuild is gone :/ |
| [10:03:00] | Cardoe: | laga: unmerge the blocker |
| [10:03:00] | Cardoe: | SlicerDicer-: It makes more sense |
| [10:03:00] | Cardoe: | no newbie is gonna know "mythfrontend" |
| [10:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I did :P |
| [10:04:00] | Cardoe: | cause no where but Gentoo is it referenced that way |
| [10:04:00] | Cardoe: | trying to see if I can get the frontend to build without mysql installed |
| [10:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | ahh |
| [10:04:00] | Cardoe: | but probably not |
| [10:04:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I did... cant tell you how but Idid |
| [10:06:00] | Cardoe: | well QT needs mysql bindings |
| [10:06:00] | Cardoe: | so it'll need MySQL |
| [10:06:00] | laga: | Cardoe: sounds good to me, but it was a vital package, iirc. i'll take a lot later, got some mythtv-related things to get done first ;) |
| [10:06:00] | Cardoe: | after that you might be able to get rid of it |
| [10:06:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dunno I just remerged qt and emerged the frontend |
| [10:07:00] | Cardoe: | emerge -pv mysql says what? |
| [10:07:00] | SlicerDicer-: | my computer is going slow now |
| [10:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | well apparently its installed |
| [10:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | I dont know how it got sneeked past me |
| [10:08:00] | SlicerDicer-: | odd |
| [10:09:00] | Cardoe: | night |
| [10:09:00] | SlicerDicer-: | gnite I am off to sleep too |
| [10:09:00] | laga: | night |
| [10:09:00] | laga: | Night Cardoe |
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| [10:35:00] | Bogus8: | err umm... some how I scheduled a shit pile of things to record (everything matching "Paid programming" nice huh) How do I kill all that? |
| [10:35:00] | Bogus8: | all i did was hit record on one to test it out and now it's got them scheduled all over |
| [10:36:00] | Bogus8: | and I hit record during live tv |
| [10:36:00] | Bogus8: | not sure why it would schedule that |
| [10:37:00] | o_cee: | look at upcomming recordings, hit i, and change it not to record |
| [10:38:00] | Bogus8: | o_cee: on every single one on every single channel? |
| [10:38:00] | Bogus8: | it's everywheres! crazy I tell you |
| [10:40:00] | Bogus8: | there has to be like 40 of them |
| [10:40:00] | Bogus8: | and even then it still stays in the list |
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| [11:34:00] | esoteric|atwork: | eVGA GeForce%u2122 FX 5200 Personal Cinema (128A8N301DX) |
| [11:34:00] | esoteric|atwork: | eVGA GeForce%u2122 FX 5200 Personal Cinema (128A8N301DX) |
| [11:35:00] | laga: | so? |
| [11:35:00] | esoteric|atwork: | oops ... anyone know if that card will work with mythtv? how about the remote with lirc? |
| [11:35:00] | esoteric|atwork: | sorry, didn't mean to paste it twice |
| [11:35:00] | laga: | are you talking about its tv capture capabilities? |
| [11:35:00] | esoteric|atwork: | yeah |
| [11:36:00] | laga: | no. |
| [11:36:00] | laga: | i dont think so. |
| [11:36:00] | riksta: | has anyone any idea how to use the filter from tvtime with myth when watching livetv, tvtime looks so much better than myth with any of the current filters |
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| [11:37:00] | laga: | riksta: use the kerneldeint deinterlacer. |
| [11:37:00] | riksta: | laga the one in the dropdown in myth? it doesn't look anywhere near as good |
| [11:37:00] | laga: | yep. |
| [11:37:00] | laga: | umm... |
| [11:38:00] | riksta: | best here out of the few, i found was linear |
| [11:38:00] | laga: | try a different algorithm then. are you usin a software encoder? |
| [11:39:00] | riksta: | yeah atm my dvb is broken (antenna bad) so i'm using a bt848 crappy card |
| [11:39:00] | esoteric|atwork: | bummer, I was hoping that card would work |
| [11:39:00] | laga: | yeah. adjust the profile for livetv. |
| [11:39:00] | riksta: | actually, you are right, the kerneldeint looks better |
| [11:39:00] | riksta: | not quite as good as tvtime |
| [11:39:00] | riksta: | laga, adjust it to what exactly |
| [11:39:00] | laga: | riksta: to higher values. resolution & bitrate. depends on what your machine can handle |
| [11:40:00] | riksta: | atm it's only on 30% usage... |
| [11:40:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [11:41:00] | riksta: | ill mess with the bitrate. thanks |
| [11:41:00] | esoteric|atwork: | anyone else know if that card will work or not? (laga, says he doesn't think so) |
| [11:42:00] | riksta: | sounds silly, but i never actually knew you could change the resolution :$ |
| [11:42:00] | laga: | riksta: RTFM ;)) |
| [11:43:00] | riksta: | haha be quiet ;) |
| [11:43:00] | riksta: | there's always stuff you don't know with this app, it's settings are immense! hehe |
| [11:43:00] | laga: | hehe ;) |
| [11:43:00] | laga: | yep |
| [11:43:00] | laga: | and if you're using DVB, there is no need to fiddle with the resolution |
| [11:44:00] | riksta: | yeah, im not right now |
| [11:44:00] | riksta: | but cheers for the heads up |
| [11:44:00] | laga: | np ;) |
| [11:44:00] | esoteric|atwork: | anyone know of a good gfx card for tv out (which is rather inexpensive?) |
| [11:45:00] | riksta: | stuck the res up a bit 60% usage now, still acceptable i suppose |
| [11:45:00] | laga: | riksta: do you know if its possible to apply filters only to a certain source? i have dvb and analog and dont want to denoise dvb. |
| [11:45:00] | laga: | riksta: yep |
| [11:45:00] | laga: | esoteric|atwork: geforce 4 mx/fx 5200 |
| [11:45:00] | riksta: | laga, not that i can see |
| [11:45:00] | riksta: | but that would be a good feature |
| [11:45:00] | laga: | riksta: sucks. gotta apply the filters to each channel then. |
| [11:45:00] | riksta: | yeah i guess so |
| [11:46:00] | ** laga pats the dboxII ;) ** | |
| [11:47:00] | riksta: | i just had an exam :( |
| [11:47:00] | riksta: | wasn't too bad actually |
| [11:47:00] | riksta: | was Peer2Peer Networks |
| [11:48:00] | laga: | nice |
| [11:48:00] | esoteric|atwork: | laga, how much does that run? |
| [11:48:00] | laga: | esoteric|atwork: probably around 30–50 euro here in germany. |
| [11:48:00] | laga: | riksta: are you studying computer science? |
| [11:48:00] | esoteric|atwork: | yeah I just say that ... |
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| [11:52:00] | fweeee: | Hi – I have a simple question. How do I make a service (like webmin) start on bootup? |
| [11:53:00] | riksta: | laga: pretty much yeah |
| [11:53:00] | riksta: | fweeee: that depends on your distro |
| [11:53:00] | fweeee: | riksta: Oh. Sorry – Knoppix |
| [11:54:00] | fweeee: | I suppose thats more of a general linux question then a mythtv question... |
| [11:54:00] | riksta: | it is indeed |
| [11:54:00] | riksta: | and i don't know for knoppix |
| [11:54:00] | riksta: | if you are using it from the CD you can't it's read only |
| [11:54:00] | fweeee: | No – installed on CD. |
| [11:55:00] | riksta: | installef FROM CD ? |
| [11:55:00] | riksta: | argh, can't type |
| [11:55:00] | fweeee: | Yeah. Installed from cd. |
| [11:55:00] | fweeee: | Damn. You cant type, I cant think. |
| [11:56:00] | riksta: | :) ask in #knoppix if it exists |
| [11:56:00] | fweeee: | I meant installed *HDD* |
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| [12:00:00] | riksta: | wb ChanServ |
| [12:00:00] | riksta: | haha |
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| [12:19:00] | beavis: | fweeee: update-rc.d webmin defaults |
| [12:21:00] | fweeee: | Oh, I have a question which *is* mythtv related – is there some thing within mythtv to watch avi's and mpg files you already have? |
| [12:22:00] | fweeee: | There seems to be something there, but it looks like its only for DVD's you have ripped. |
| [12:22:00] | fweeee: | Oh, thanks beavis. |
| [12:23:00] | beavis: | mythvideo |
| [12:25:00] | laga: | fweeee: mythvideo is the thing you're looking for. |
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| [12:31:00] | fweeee: | Ahhh, ok. Thanks. |
| [12:41:00] | fweeee: | Thats what I thought before – but I copied some files into the video directory, and I still cant see anything in mythvideo. |
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| [13:25:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | hi – how can i find out which tuner my tv card should use? it worked in gentoo, but in debian, the tuner is set to 4(no tuner) |
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| [13:58:00] | jams: | .18.1 is out |
| [14:01:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | hi – how can i find out which tuner my tv card should use? it worked in gentoo, but in debian, the tuner is set to 4(no tuner) |
| [14:01:00] | dopester: | morning jams |
| [14:02:00] | jams: | morning |
| [14:02:00] | jams: | "morning jams" sounds likes a radio show |
| [14:03:00] | Cromz_: | lol |
| [14:04:00] | Cromz_: | maybe it's a internet radio show :P |
| [14:04:00] | Cromz_: | hey you could if you have a winblows box shoutcast one hahaha |
| [14:05:00] | jams: | no thank you |
| [14:05:00] | Cromz_: | throw in ads for MythTv do interviews.. and shit.. |
| [14:05:00] | Cromz_: | hahaha |
| [14:05:00] | jams: | internet radio show's are not my sort of thing |
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| [14:06:00] | Cromz_: | aw... coule be funny.. you could hook up ventrillo and interview Beirdo.. ahhaahhaha |
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| [14:07:00] | Cromz_: | if you have a kid you could have it record a MythTv commercial. ahahah :> |
| [14:08:00] | BaZiL: | anyone here have the engery to explain to me how2 record from the aux on a pvr350 on myth |
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| [14:27:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | hi – how can i find out which tuner my tv card should use? it worked in gentoo, but in debian, the tuner is set to 4(no tuner) |
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| [14:28:00] | laga: | Super_Cat_Frog: look at the tunder and write the numbers down. look at /usr/src/linux/Documentation/bttv/TUNERS (iirc) |
| [14:31:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | laga – what do you mean look at it? |
| [14:31:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | also, i have no bttv dir |
| [14:32:00] | laga: | its polly called video4linux/ |
| [14:32:00] | laga: | Super_Cat_Frog: look at it. with your eyes and a pen in your hand |
| [14:33:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | ok |
| [14:33:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | ta |
| [14:35:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | laga – at the risk of sounding stupid, what exactly am i looking for? |
| [14:37:00] | laga: | Super_Cat_Frog: for a white sticker on the tuner |
| [14:38:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | ok |
| [14:40:00] | laga: | Super_Cat_Frog: the tuner is the metal thingie, btw. |
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| [14:41:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | the big thing that says "Hauppauge WinTV" among other things? |
| [14:41:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | takes up most of the card |
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| [14:44:00] | laga: | Super_Cat_Frog: usually on top of the card. |
| [14:44:00] | laga: | Super_Cat_Frog: it's the thing where you plug the coax in. |
| [14:46:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | ok |
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| [14:46:00] | esoteric|atwork: | morning all |
| [14:46:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | morning |
| [14:47:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | laga – i cant find it, so im gonna have to wait until that box finishes compiling myth before i take the card out and have a gander, thanks for your help |
| [14:47:00] | laga: | Super_Cat_Frog: k |
| [14:47:00] | laga: | np |
| [14:48:00] | esoteric|atwork: | hey laga, you have an experience with wintv go cards and sound issues? |
| [14:48:00] | laga: | esoteric|atwork: nope, i only use hardware encoder card/dvb. |
| [14:48:00] | esoteric|atwork: | which card you have? |
| [14:48:00] | laga: | esoteric|atwork: it's always the best thing to just ask your question ;) |
| [14:49:00] | laga: | pvr 250 and a dboxII. |
| [14:49:00] | esoteric|atwork: | cool |
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| [14:49:00] | laga: | yep. really worth the money, imho |
| [14:49:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | esoteric – i have a wintv to go card (bttv) – whats your problem? |
| [14:49:00] | esoteric|atwork: | I have major sound problems ... I am using on board sound on my asus mb ... |
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| [14:50:00] | esoteric|atwork: | my sound is really faint and has a nasty static overlay |
| [14:50:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | laga – isn't it more cost effective to get a dvb card? or do the pvr250's encode much smaller files? |
| [14:50:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | esoteric – are you using btaudio or a cable? |
| [14:50:00] | esoteric|atwork: | cable, can I use btaudio? |
| [14:51:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | you could try – there's an option in mythtv somewhere (probably mythfrontend although im not suer) |
| [14:51:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | you'l have to modprobe btaudio first (or whatever the module is called now) |
| [14:51:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | be sure to load the btaudio module *after* your soundcards module, or it'l mess up programs like alsamixer (the first module loaded is the default card) |
| [14:52:00] | esoteric|atwork: | I have tried .. it says the module doesn't exist |
| [14:52:00] | laga: | Super_Cat_Frog: i only get dvb-c here. and there aint much on dvb-c except for paid programming. i want to have regular cable and the paid programming |
| [14:52:00] | esoteric|atwork: | where do I get the module? |
| [14:52:00] | laga: | esoteric|atwork: are you using microphone in or line in? |
| [14:52:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | laga – ah, im in the uk, where all the terrestrial channels are DVB, plus free ones you cant get terrestrial |
| [14:52:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | (analogue terrestrial) |
| [14:52:00] | laga: | Super_Cat_Frog: oooh, nice. |
| [14:53:00] | laga: | Super_Cat_Frog: in my part of germany, i'll get dvb-t 2006. i'm really looking forward to it ;) |
| [14:53:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | esoteric – did you compile your own kernel? |
| [14:53:00] | esoteric|atwork: | laga: line in |
| [14:53:00] | laga: | esoteric|atwork: sounds good to me then, sorry. |
| [14:53:00] | esoteric|atwork: | Super_Cat_Frog: no ... using fedora core 3 |
| [14:53:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | esoteric – ok, lemme find the module name |
| [14:53:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | esoteric – try modprobe btaudio |
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| [14:54:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | if that works, look up your distro's modules file (loads modules on boot), then put your sound cards module in first, then btaudio on the next line |
| [14:54:00] | esoteric|atwork: | ok |
| [14:55:00] | esoteric|atwork: | you gonna be around later today like after 2:30 PM EST? |
| [14:55:00] | esoteric|atwork: | I am at work right now and I can't really mess with it too much other then read up on documentation |
| [14:55:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | on debian its /etc/modules (with the name of the modules on each line), gentoo is something like /etc/modules.autoload.d/2.6), slackware's is just a shell script (modprobe %MODULENAME% on each line), not sure about fedora |
| [14:56:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | esoteric – where is EST? |
| [14:57:00] | esoteric|atwork: | -4 of GMT |
| [14:57:00] | esoteric|atwork: | off* |
| [14:57:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | esoteric – im not sure, maybe, although most people would beable to help you out with module autoloading |
| [14:57:00] | esoteric|atwork: | eastern unided states |
| [14:57:00] | esoteric|atwork: | united states (damn I can't type today |
| [14:58:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | my gf's pissed at me (probably PMT), so i might have to stay off the computer 2nite to keep her happy |
| [14:59:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | right – back to that assignment..... |
| [15:00:00] | BaZiL: | anyone here have the engery to explain to me how2 record from the aux on a pvr350 on myth |
| [15:00:00] | BaZiL: | ? |
| [15:00:00] | laga: | PMT? pre mens...t...? |
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| [15:02:00] | esoteric|atwork: | PMS I think, laga |
| [15:03:00] | Pookie: | can someone advise me on an apt-get error on F3? |
| [15:03:00] | pridkett: | BaZiL: are you just trying to dub something or tune? |
| [15:03:00] | esoteric|atwork: | Super_Cat_Frog: so you are using btaudio? |
| [15:04:00] | pridkett: | BaZiL: if you're just taking the input in, you don't need myth (ie dubbing from a VCR tape) |
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| [15:04:00] | pridkett: | if you're trying to tune, you're going to need to set up the external channel change command and in mythsetup hook up your input (composite1 or svideo etc) to the channel set |
| [15:05:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | laga – PMT is PMS. estoeric – no, i use cables on my card (not bttv) and my gf uses a cable for her bttv card |
| [15:06:00] | laga: | Super_Cat_Frog: oh, ok ;) |
| [15:08:00] | BaZiL: | pridket .. i wanna record from the aux .. like a vcr . but i have linux and i am not a linuxwiz .. so i dont know how2 record from the aux as is |
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| [15:11:00] | esoteric|atwork: | Super_Cat_Frog: I am confused now ... you have a WinTV Go card right? |
| [15:11:00] | esoteric|atwork: | what linux install are you running? |
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| [15:26:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | esoteric – my GF has a winTV to go card which uses the BTTV chipset. she's running debian (as am i) |
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| [15:31:00] | beavis: | esoteric|atwork: i wasn't using btaudio, as it's crappy |
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| [15:32:00] | beavis: | I was using win tv go for years, with a line in cable from the tv card to the soundcard |
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| [15:40:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | beavis- the reason i recommended trying btaudio is because esoteric is having problems with crappy audio, and btaudio might be better than what he's getting now |
| [15:41:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | im getting mythbackend: error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.18.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| [15:41:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | any idea's why anybody? |
| [15:42:00] | saltstang: | Hi, I'm having a problem with myth. Have .18, using a pvr 150 pal. Everything, including audio works, but I can only change channels to # 6 & 16. Any ideas? |
| [15:42:00] | laga: | Super_Cat_Frog: make sure that the path to your libmythtv-foo is in /etc/ld.so.conf and run ldconfig |
| [15:43:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | ok thanks |
| [15:48:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | can somebody help me make mqsql listen on the network? i think its currently bound to localhost (although its set to 192.168.0.15 in my.conf) |
| [15:49:00] | saltstang: | isn't there a setting where you explicitly have to tell it to accept non-localhost connections? In addition to the 192.168... part |
| [15:50:00] | laga: | Super_Cat_Frog: --skip-networking? |
| [15:50:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | i dont think that's there |
| [15:50:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | hmm, i cant connect from localhost now |
| [15:51:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | but my password works when i run mysql from the commandline |
| [15:51:00] | GreyFoxx: | Supercat: Put a copy of your my.cnf up on pastebin |
| [15:52:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | http://rafb.net/paste/results/cC0msa31.html |
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| [15:53:00] | GreyFoxx: | That looks fine. Are you sure it's not being run with --skip-networking ? |
| [15:53:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | i dont think so – im running the default initscript that comes with debian sarge |
| [15:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | That doesn't tell me anything since I don't use debian :) |
| [15:54:00] | GreyFoxx: | check the init script :) |
| [15:55:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | its working now, from localhost |
| [15:55:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | i'l check the initscript |
| [15:56:00] | laga: | Super_Cat_Frog: check /etc/conf.d/ too |
| [15:56:00] | saltstang: | no one out there who couldn't tune to more than two channels? it's 6 and 16 and before that it was 7 and 17. 17 was the last chan, now it's 16. I've been trying to resolve this for 4 weeks now, beginning to feel just a little dumb... :/ |
| [15:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | saltstang: Have you consulting the ivtv mailing list? Or the #ivtv-dev channel ? |
| [15:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | s/ing/ed/g |
| [15:58:00] | saltstang: | well, I can tune just fine with the perl tuner script. I'm only getting this problem in myth. |
| [15:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ahh |
| [15:58:00] | saltstang: | but yes, I've looked everywhere |
| [15:58:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | the initscript does't contain any --skip anywhere |
| [15:58:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | laga – ok |
| [15:59:00] | GreyFoxx: | and when you run mythbackend with debug logging turned up what does it show when you try to pick a different channel ? |
| [15:59:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | laga – debian doesn't have a conf.d directory – thats gentoo |
| [15:59:00] | GeckoFiend: | GreyFoxx -v channel should be enough |
| [16:00:00] | GreyFoxx: | GeckoFiend: I assumed it would be :) |
| [16:00:00] | saltstang: | well, myth just puts me on the closest channel, 6 or 16. nothing in the logs, or in the console |
| [16:01:00] | GreyFoxx: | saltstang: And have you turned up/on verbose debug logging on both frontend and backend ? |
| [16:01:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | here's my mythfrontend's output on the remote host: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ygwisH11.html |
| [16:03:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | ive gtg |
| [16:03:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | back later |
| [16:04:00] | laga: | Super_Cat_Frog: oh, ok. |
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| [16:15:00] | saltstang: | GreyFoxx: no noise on the bckend, but the frontend says QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range 5 times, then av_remove_stream 0x1c0, and then 3 more QDate etc. Then it drops me to the channel I was at |
| [16:16:00] | saltstang: | but the parameter out of range still appears when I don't actually change the channel, just go through the channels i the gui. |
| [16:17:00] | saltstang: | in |
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| [16:34:00] | esoteric|atwork: | is a 32mb on board for a gfx with tv out good enough for output to a tv? |
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| [16:45:00] | reel: | does anyone have any recommendations for a cheap but good wireless keyboard/mouse set? |
| [16:46:00] | esoteric|atwrk: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16823126156 |
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| [16:50:00] | mchou: | Well, it didn't take the MPAA long: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050513 . . . 70&23710 |
| [16:53:00] | Beirdo: | rumor-monger |
| [16:54:00] | pridkett: | mchou: be careful, that hasn't even been introduced yet |
| [16:56:00] | Beirdo: | tis all rumors at this point |
| [16:56:00] | esoteric|atwrk: | well it is in the news :) |
| [16:56:00] | mchou: | well, if you follow the links, once the grokster case has been decided it will likely be introduced. |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | and alarmist rumors |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | "reportedly got a copy of something the MPAA reportedly is drafting" |
| [16:57:00] | Beirdo: | bah |
| [16:57:00] | mchou: | what alarmist? Public Knowledge is a better watchdog than EFF. They are the ones who sucessfully defeated BF. |
| [16:58:00] | Beirdo: | oh, I'm sure the EFF would disagree with you there |
| [16:58:00] | mchou: | no, the EFF does not disagree. They've said as much re BF. |
| [16:59:00] | mchou: | that PK did the "heavy lifting" on BF. |
| [16:59:00] | pridkett: | Technically, the american library association won the case, but who actually reads the decisions anyway. We've got snippets and irc chat to provide all the news we need. |
| [16:59:00] | esoteric|atwrk: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102523 (anyone know if this card will work on a fedora install) |
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| [16:59:00] | Beirdo: | and alarmist rumors |
| [16:59:00] | esoteric|atwrk: | I am thinking of using it for TV out for myth |
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| [17:05:00] | esoteric|atwrk: | Beirdo: ... |
| [17:05:00] | Beirdo: | yeees? |
| [17:05:00] | esoteric|atwrk: | doh ... Beirdo: you think that card would work (the one I linked to) |
| [17:05:00] | Beirdo: | I dunno |
| [17:05:00] | Beirdo: | get 8500 or better |
| [17:06:00] | laga: | i guess an nvidia card would be cheaper |
| [17:06:00] | laga: | Beirdo: any news concerning cputranscode? |
| [17:06:00] | Beirdo: | huh? |
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| [17:06:00] | laga: | gpu* |
| [17:06:00] | laga: | ;) |
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| [17:06:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, there is no news |
| [17:06:00] | Beirdo: | I have limited spare time |
| [17:06:00] | esoteric|atwrk: | laga: a nvidia card would be cheaper? you have a link to one? |
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| [17:07:00] | laga: | sucks. ;) |
| [17:07:00] | dcfogg: | does anyone know if a wintv-go card will work with mythtv??? |
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| [17:07:00] | laga: | esotericisms: www.nvidia.com? ;) |
| [17:07:00] | beavis: | dcfogg: it works |
| [17:07:00] | laga: | dcfogg: if it works in linux, it should work with mythtv!!!!111 |
| [17:07:00] | dcfogg: | I am having trouble with mine |
| [17:07:00] | beavis: | which chip? bt8x8? |
| [17:07:00] | dcfogg: | I am using the bttv drivers |
| [17:08:00] | dcfogg: | but all I get is a green screen with static at the top |
| [17:08:00] | esotericisms: | dcfogg: I have had nothing but trouble with the wintv go card and sound, others have had success |
| [17:08:00] | esotericisms: | dcfogg: what linux install you ahve? |
| [17:09:00] | dcfogg: | gentoo x86–64 |
| [17:09:00] | dcfogg: | 2,6,11 kernel |
| [17:10:00] | dcfogg: | card 10 with tuner 50 is auto detected |
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| [17:10:00] | esotericisms: | when you run mythtvsetup |
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| [17:10:00] | esotericisms: | does it auto detect /dev/video0 |
| [17:10:00] | esotericisms: | or is it blank? |
| [17:10:00] | esotericisms: | for video source that is |
| [17:11:00] | dcfogg: | it auto detects /dev/v4l/video0 |
| [17:11:00] | esotericisms: | hrm ... |
| [17:11:00] | esotericisms: | is the coax cable ok? |
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| [17:11:00] | esotericisms: | good I should say? |
| [17:12:00] | dcfogg: | yes I used it with a all-in-wonderr and the gatos drivers on another box |
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| [17:14:00] | dcfogg: | should I use /dev/video0 instead of /dev/v4l/video0??? |
| [17:15:00] | esotericisms: | dcfogg: is it an option? |
| [17:16:00] | dcfogg: | I can change the entry manually |
| [17:16:00] | esotericisms: | nah, it auto detected it leave it alone |
| [17:16:00] | dcfogg: | the device exists as a sym link |
| [17:17:00] | dcfogg: | ls v4l -l |
| [17:17:00] | esotericisms: | what happens when you type 'modprobe tuner' |
| [17:18:00] | dcfogg: | chip found at addr 0xc2 i2c-bus bt878 #0 [sw] |
| [17:18:00] | dcfogg: | tuner: type set to 50 (TCL 2002N) by bt878 #0 [sw] |
| [17:18:00] | dcfogg: | that is from dmesg |
| [17:19:00] | esotericisms: | hrm .. I didn't know the list went that high, I thought it stopped at 44 or 45 |
| [17:20:00] | braniff: | if i just have my 0.17 mythconverg database and no other evidence of myth-suite, will 0.18 use the database info, or just blow it away ?? |
| [17:21:00] | braniff: | on fedora using apt |
| [17:21:00] | dcfogg: | brb |
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| [17:21:00] | esotericisms: | what kernel are you using braniff ? |
| [17:21:00] | braniff: | 2.6.10–1.770_14.rhfc3.at |
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| [17:21:00] | esotericisms: | hrm you aren't using an axel kernel and you running myth .. interesting |
| [17:22:00] | esotericisms: | I can't answer your question .. it should delete anything, but don't take my word for it |
| [17:23:00] | braniff: | heh ok |
| [17:24:00] | braniff: | i'll just do an apt-get install mythtv-suite and see what happens |
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| [17:25:00] | esotericisms: | ok |
| [17:25:00] | esotericisms: | sorry |
| [17:26:00] | braniff: | hmm "mythtv-suite: Depends: mythplugin (>= 0.18) but it is not installable" |
| [17:27:00] | esotericisms: | yeah |
| [17:27:00] | esotericisms: | thought you might run into that |
| [17:27:00] | esotericisms: | you will have to go to .... |
| [17:27:00] | esotericisms: | http://wilsonet.com/packages/mythtv/ |
| [17:27:00] | esotericisms: | download the rpms manually and install using 'rpm -Uvh' |
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| [17:30:00] | braniff: | so i need libmyth, mythtv, and mythplugins ? |
| [17:31:00] | esotericisms: | start there |
| [17:31:00] | esotericisms: | you will probably need all the rpms listed under MythTV |
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| [17:32:00] | braniff: | ok |
| [17:32:00] | dcfogg: | hey it works |
| [17:32:00] | ** braniff puts his bandwidth to good use dling mythtv ** | |
| [17:32:00] | dcfogg: | forgot to load the tuner with the kernel I compiled last night |
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| [17:44:00] | esotericisms: | lol |
| [17:44:00] | esotericisms: | glad I could help dcfogg :) |
| [17:44:00] | esotericisms: | j/j |
| [17:44:00] | esotericisms: | j/k** |
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| [17:54:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | im back – can somebody help me with this (output of mythfrontend on a remote host: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ygwisH11.html |
| [17:55:00] | GreyFoxx: | Well, it would seem to be pretty self explanitory |
| [17:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | It either cannot reach, or cannot authenticate with the database |
| [17:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded |
| [17:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | QSqlDatabase: available drivers: |
| [17:56:00] | pridkett: | have you tried running "mysql -u mythtv -pmythtv -h BACKENDNAME mythconverg"? |
| [17:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | QT can't load the qt mysql driver ? |
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| [17:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/wiki/index.php/FAQ#Wh . . . L3_errors.3F Might be of some use |
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| [18:24:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | greyfoxx – sorry, i posted that, then forgot i was on irc |
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| [18:38:00] | twitchmax: | anyone have any experience compiling myth on amd64 |
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| [18:47:00] | CyberKnet: | nice day there j? |
| [18:52:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:53:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: Guess what |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | you went blind from too much wanking? |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [18:53:00] | CyberKnet: | err... no. |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | whew. good |
| [18:53:00] | Beirdo: | got yourself an AU DID? |
| [18:53:00] | CyberKnet: | I was at a garage sale on saturday... and I heard a mind numbing crunch |
| [18:53:00] | CyberKnet: | someone hit my car AGAIN$!@# |
| [18:54:00] | CyberKnet: | FSCKERS! |
| [18:54:00] | CyberKnet: | gah |
| [18:54:00] | Beirdo: | oh good god |
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| [18:54:00] | CyberKnet: | seriously, this is twice in two months. |
| [18:54:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: :/ |
| [18:54:00] | FITH: | at a garage sale?? Wow... that takes more then the usual ammount of talent... |
| [18:54:00] | CyberKnet: | I had *just that day* gotten the check from the ass that hit me last time. |
| [18:54:00] | CyberKnet: | I had teh release contract on my back seat. |
| [18:54:00] | braniff: | hitting a parked car? that's pretty stoopid |
| [18:54:00] | CyberKnet: | and then this stupid woman backs her truck into my headlight and front bumper. |
| [18:55:00] | CyberKnet: | We're talking about some REAL smarts here. |
| [18:55:00] | Beirdo: | you'll have all new body parts within a year at this rate |
| [18:55:00] | CyberKnet: | no fucking joke |
| [18:55:00] | kormoc: | try to get her to replace the drive chain! |
| [18:55:00] | CyberKnet: | I want some money for all the frigging time this is costing me. |
| [18:56:00] | CyberKnet: | One wreck a year... so you have to invest two or three days worth of work in getting everything set in order... but this is ridiculous. |
| [18:56:00] | j-rod: | CK, pretty nice day today, yesterday sucked ass though |
| [18:56:00] | kormoc: | I guess you are getting my share of bad luck cyber :/ |
| [18:56:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: wonder how many people will really read what I posted :) |
| [18:57:00] | j-rod: | I did! |
| [18:57:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: heh. I just have to cross my fingers and hope for no more wrecks. I can't take this too much more =) |
| [18:57:00] | j-rod: | (assuming you're talking about your email to atrpms-devel) |
| [18:57:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [18:57:00] | j-rod: | I replied to everyone too |
| [18:57:00] | ** CyberKnet isn't subscribed there ** | |
| [18:57:00] | j-rod: | was sorta playing devil's advocate and forgot about the number of folks still on FC1 |
| [18:58:00] | CyberKnet: | I'm on FC2. You can drop FC1 support any time you like =) |
| [18:58:00] | CyberKnet: | so long as you dont drop FC2 support =) |
| [18:58:00] | laga: | drop FC3 in favor of slackware, my FC3 annoys the hell outta me lately. |
| [18:59:00] | CyberKnet: | drop laga on his head =) |
| [18:59:00] | kormoc: | Mmm... <insert a few dozen distros here> |
| [18:59:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: i guess that my parents already did that... ;) |
| [18:59:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: why would anyone on slackware want atrpms? =) You *must* have been dropped on your head. man pkgadd =) |
| [19:00:00] | CyberKnet: | and that's if you use packages at all. |
| [19:00:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | i installed libqt3c102-mysql but im still having this problem on a remote host: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ygwisH11.html |
| [19:01:00] | laga: | CyberKnet: mv atrpms.net attgz.net ;) |
| [19:02:00] | CyberKnet: | laga: heh |
| [19:05:00] | braniff: | j-rod: i saw the 0.18.1 myth packages on your site...is there a certain order i should install them in ?? |
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| [19:06:00] | j-rod: | braniff, I'd download them all to one directory, then "rpm -Fvh *myth*rpm" |
| [19:07:00] | j-rod: | or wait for Axel to push out 0.18.1 builds, shouldn't be long |
| [19:07:00] | TheUni3: | mmmm, 18.1 eh |
| [19:08:00] | braniff: | "rpm -Fvh *myth*rpm" it is |
| [19:08:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | i installed libqt3c102-mysql but im still having this problem on a remote host: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ygwisH11.html |
| [19:10:00] | j-rod: | Beirdo, whatcha think about globally distributed build systems for some of the older dists? |
| [19:10:00] | Beirdo: | sounds like a decent plan to me |
| [19:11:00] | laga: | something like distributed.net for RPMs. hehe. ;) |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | better than Charlie and his "so are you going to pay Axel" crap |
| [19:11:00] | j-rod: | yeah, was just reading that and about to reply |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | I already did |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:11:00] | j-rod: | I'll hold off on mine then |
| [19:11:00] | j-rod: | and go read yours |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | I felt like just saying "get a fucking clue" |
| [19:11:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:11:00] | laga: | is there any archive of this ML on the web? sounds like an interesting flame war to me. ;) |
| [19:12:00] | j-rod: | lists.atrpms.net |
| [19:12:00] | Beirdo: | there are a LOT of FC1 users left |
| [19:12:00] | j-rod: | not searchable though |
| [19:12:00] | Beirdo: | we have our reasons |
| [19:12:00] | laga: | j-rod: thx |
| [19:12:00] | j-rod: | at least, not without google's aid |
| [19:12:00] | Beirdo: | and as I said... if I upgrade them, there's a better than even chance it won't be to FC4, etc. WAY too much dependancy bloat |
| [19:13:00] | Beirdo: | and until the whole Fedora politics thing dies down, it's hard to say where to lend support |
| [19:13:00] | laga: | j-rod: stupid question, but are you using ccache? |
| [19:13:00] | j-rod: | nope |
| [19:13:00] | j-rod: | (nope to the ccache q) |
| [19:14:00] | Beirdo: | Axel's better to deal with than Warren though |
| [19:14:00] | j-rod: | heh |
| [19:14:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | are you talking about which distro's to make binary packages for? if so, what about autopackage? |
| [19:14:00] | j-rod: | I haven't dealt with Warren much, but I've seen plenty of evidence that he's an ass, over the course of a few years |
| [19:14:00] | laga: | j-rod: well. ccache.samba.org it probably helps with your issues. |
| [19:15:00] | Beirdo: | and immature punk is my basic synopsis |
| [19:15:00] | j-rod: | I've never tried ccache with rpm building |
| [19:16:00] | j-rod: | but generally, you always set up a clean build when building an rpm |
| [19:16:00] | j-rod: | the bigger issue, from what I understand though, isn't build time |
| [19:16:00] | j-rod: | its repository metadata generation |
| [19:16:00] | Beirdo: | I still have my FC3 build vserver (under ubuntu) running |
| [19:16:00] | j-rod: | Beirdo, yeah, seems he got too big for his britches too quick |
| [19:17:00] | Beirdo: | Warren was SO pissed that my host OS wasn't Fedora. |
| [19:17:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:17:00] | j-rod: | lol |
| [19:17:00] | j-rod: | wah |
| [19:17:00] | Beirdo: | yeah. I am still interested in helping straighten FC support out, but damn... |
| [19:18:00] | j-rod: | I still have an Athlon XP 2200 I can dedicate as a build system too |
| [19:18:00] | Beirdo: | this is AMD64 |
| [19:18:00] | laga: | j-rod: i dunno how ccache exactly works, i just thought that it might help. |
| [19:18:00] | j-rod: | along with resources on my a64 3500 |
| [19:18:00] | j-rod: | and my dual MP 2000 |
| [19:18:00] | j-rod: | and my xp 3200 |
| [19:18:00] | j-rod: | distcc |
| [19:18:00] | Beirdo: | so if at some point you have an idea how I can set it up to help build stuff, I'm willing |
| [19:18:00] | j-rod: | though Axel has an aversion to distcc |
| [19:19:00] | Beirdo: | distcc can be a royal PITA when cross-platform |
| [19:19:00] | j-rod: | yeah, I wouldn't try to get too fancy with it |
| [19:19:00] | Beirdo: | i.e. AMD64 with ix86 |
| [19:19:00] | j-rod: | dag has some nice distcc stuff though |
| [19:19:00] | j-rod: | laga, I'll have to take a look at ccache some more |
| [19:19:00] | Beirdo: | which is a shame as my build server and my new mail/news/web server are AMD64 |
| [19:19:00] | laga: | j-rod: HTH ;9 |
| [19:20:00] | Beirdo: | and my asterisk box (running gentoo) is a Celeron 566 and can really use the distcc help |
| [19:20:00] | riksta: | do you know what i have just realised that is totally missing from mythtv |
| [19:20:00] | j-rod: | Axel currently builds everything on an A64 system, FWIW |
| [19:20:00] | riksta: | REMINDERS |
| [19:20:00] | Beirdo: | I may set it up on my FC1/Athlon fileserver to help out the asterisk box |
| [19:21:00] | riksta: | hows it goin Beirdo |
| [19:21:00] | ** Beirdo has a cold from hell ** | |
| [19:21:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | i installed libqt3c102-mysql but im still having this problem on a remote host: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ygwisH11.html |
| [19:21:00] | j-rod: | I should find a cheap(ish) dual Athlon board, since I have two MP 2000 procs sitting around doing nothing... |
| [19:21:00] | riksta: | sucks :( |
| [19:21:00] | braniff: | just curious, but who has the final say on what goes into the myth binary packages ? that is to say — who builds the final version going into the repositories ? |
| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | Super_Cat_Frog: you need to make sure you have it setup to allow mysql connections from remote machines |
| [19:22:00] | j-rod: | For Red Hat/Fedora, Axel typically builds 'em |
| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | it's covered in the manual for MythTV |
| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | AND |
| [19:22:00] | GreyFoxx: | braniff: Well, "final" say would be Isaac |
| [19:22:00] | j-rod: | but he's open to additions |
| [19:22:00] | riksta: | i cant believe myth doesn't do "{program} is starting in 5 minutes, do you want to watch it?" |
| [19:22:00] | riksta: | without record |
| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | you need the qt-mysql on the remote machine too |
| [19:22:00] | Beirdo: | riksta: we look forward to your patches |
| [19:23:00] | riksta: | Beirdo: i'm on it |
| [19:23:00] | riksta: | :P |
| [19:23:00] | riksta: | you sarcy git ;) |
| [19:23:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | bierdo – i can connect on remote machines |
| [19:23:00] | j-rod: | I've done a number of build improvements over time that Axel has included in the packages he pushes out, but yeah, the final authority is Isaac. |
| [19:23:00] | Beirdo: | QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded |
| [19:23:00] | Beirdo: | QSqlDatabase: available drivers: |
| [19:23:00] | laga: | j-rod: the 'Tyan S2460 Tiger MP' is quite cheap here in germany. |
| [19:23:00] | Beirdo: | the first two lines |
| [19:23:00] | laga: | j-rod: dunno if it's any good, tho. |
| [19:23:00] | Beirdo: | you don't have qt-mysql support on whatever machine made that log |
| [19:24:00] | j-rod: | I had a Tiger MPX under these chips before, it was pretty good. Until I blew it up. |
| [19:24:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:24:00] | Beirdo: | kaBOOM |
| [19:24:00] | braniff: | Axel must be a busy man! maintaining all those packages must take some time |
| [19:24:00] | CyberKnet: | j-rod: aaah. I'm guessing it wasn't pretty good after you blew it up. |
| [19:24:00] | j-rod: | I've also got two Tyan Thunder K7 boards, very solid as well |
| [19:24:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | bierdo – ok, i'l look into that |
| [19:24:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | thanks |
| [19:24:00] | j-rod: | yeah, it sucked in a major way |
| [19:24:00] | CyberKnet: | j-rod: out of curiosity, how did you make it go boom? |
| [19:24:00] | Beirdo: | don't whiz on the electric fence |
| [19:25:00] | CyberKnet: | Yessir. |
| [19:25:00] | CyberKnet: | learned that one the hard way |
| [19:25:00] | CyberKnet: | eugh. |
| [19:25:00] | braniff: | my friend whizzed on an electric fence once hehe |
| [19:25:00] | CyberKnet: | braniff: no kidding eh? was it pleasant for him? |
| [19:25:00] | kormoc: | it hurts |
| [19:26:00] | j-rod: | power spike killed it, along with the Radeon 9000 Pro that was riding in the agp slot |
| [19:26:00] | ** kormoc crosses his legs with a pained expression ** | |
| [19:26:00] | Beirdo: | a nice pleasant tingle... or something |
| [19:26:00] | CyberKnet: | (btw, the "hard" way was having to watch ren & stimpy) |
| [19:26:00] | braniff: | sparks flew and he said every muscle tensed up |
| [19:26:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:26:00] | braniff: | i laughed my ass off |
| [19:26:00] | kormoc: | braniff, sparks flew? he had a computerized dick? |
| [19:26:00] | Beirdo: | way to electrocute yourself.. |
| [19:26:00] | braniff: | sparks and a few wisps of smoke |
| [19:27:00] | CyberKnet: | try not to imagine his muscle tensing up. |
| [19:27:00] | Beirdo: | "point of entry of the electricity... WTF? was this guy whizzing on the electric fence?" |
| [19:28:00] | CyberKnet: | braniff: did he expand upon the philosphical state of mind that led to this euphoric (and admittedly catastrophic) event? |
| [19:28:00] | braniff: | it had more to do with all the beer than anything |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | I'm betting alcohol was involved |
| [19:28:00] | kormoc: | CyberKnet, likly like myself, didn't realize it was a special fence... |
| [19:28:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:28:00] | CyberKnet: | hahahah |
| [19:28:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: no quantities of alcohol involved for you? |
| [19:29:00] | kormoc: | nopers |
| [19:29:00] | CyberKnet: | ooh man. |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:29:00] | CyberKnet: | we have a winner folks! |
| [19:29:00] | CyberKnet: | Kormoc's weiner is the winner. |
| [19:29:00] | Beirdo: | you're more likely to remember the experience too |
| [19:29:00] | CyberKnet: | "Dumbest Dick on the Net" |
| [19:29:00] | CyberKnet: | =) |
| [19:29:00] | kormoc: | Where should I go dad? over there would work. god damn that hurt! |
| [19:29:00] | kormoc: | :P |
| [19:30:00] | braniff: | ...this chat has been logged for posterity by MythLogBot... |
| [19:30:00] | CyberKnet: | your dad told you to whiz on the electric fence? man. that's harsh. |
| [19:30:00] | Beirdo: | next time piss on his car |
| [19:30:00] | kormoc: | CyberKnet, noone realized it was a 'special' fence :P |
| [19:30:00] | CyberKnet: | braniff: like all good converstations. |
| [19:30:00] | riksta: | wtf, so it electrocutes your cock when you piss on a fence? |
| [19:30:00] | riksta: | you gotta be kidding me |
| [19:30:00] | CyberKnet: | riksta: go try it out. |
| [19:30:00] | kormoc: | it's not like electrocute |
| [19:30:00] | kormoc: | it's more like, you get a jolt of odd feeling |
| [19:30:00] | riksta: | i cannot believe that |
| [19:31:00] | kormoc: | it's not pain as much as it's wtf was that |
| [19:31:00] | GreyFoxx: | riksta: Water is a conductor of electricty. Same thing as if you toss a toaster in a bathtub of water |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:31:00] | riksta: | hahaha that's mad |
| [19:31:00] | kormoc: | tho, I guess it depends on the fence's voltage/etc |
| [19:31:00] | Beirdo: | and urine has stuff in it that makes it conduct even better than water |
| [19:31:00] | riksta: | GreyFoxx: i realise that, i just didnt think it could travel up a stream of flowing piss |
| [19:31:00] | riksta: | hahaha |
| [19:31:00] | CyberKnet: | rule of thumb: don't whiz on *any* fence. |
| [19:31:00] | kormoc: | CyberKnet, yeah, I learned that one quite well :P |
| [19:32:00] | CyberKnet: | riksta: well... if you had a prostate problem I guess it couldnt. |
| [19:32:00] | GreyFoxx: | riksta: water is water, it's not likely you have to deal with gravity keeping it from going "up" :) |
| [19:32:00] | riksta: | i guess, i just never thought of it |
| [19:32:00] | CyberKnet: | riksta: you thought there'd be more breaks in the flow, eh? |
| [19:32:00] | kormoc: | CyberKnet, he writes his name on things, so there's lots o breaks |
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| [19:32:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: hahaha |
| [19:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | The main thing is that the muscle contraction usually stops the flow of pee before major damage can happen (if you are real lucky) |
| [19:33:00] | laga: | GreyFoxx: tried that one, too, right? ;) |
| [19:33:00] | CyberKnet: | man. Can you imagine having a limp dick for life because you peed on a fence too long? |
| [19:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | I've seen an idiot do it |
| [19:33:00] | CyberKnet: | that would really really suck. |
| [19:33:00] | riksta: | hahaha |
| [19:33:00] | CyberKnet: | "Sorry baby, I can't do this. I'm an electric fence survivor." |
| [19:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | If you are dumb enough to try it, you deserve what you get |
| [19:33:00] | riksta: | i am never pissing on a fence again |
| [19:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [19:34:00] | kormoc: | good call |
| [19:34:00] | riksta: | CyberKnet: hahahaha |
| [19:34:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: you see my response? :) |
| [19:35:00] | CyberKnet: | kormoc: I sympathize with your pain. ouch. |
| [19:35:00] | kormoc: | heh, tis okay, no harm done :P |
| [19:36:00] | j-rod: | yeah, you were amazingly restrained and un-rude. :) |
| [19:36:00] | Beirdo: | heh. I was thinking of flaming him, but it's not worth the trouble |
| [19:36:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: rarely is, unfortunately :| |
| [19:37:00] | CyberKnet: | Everyone could do with a good flame once in a while. |
| [19:37:00] | Beirdo: | but it's oh so fun |
| [19:37:00] | GreyFoxx: | But it's so refreshing |
| [19:37:00] | CyberKnet: | flaming at someone, being flamed at... it's all good every so often. |
| [19:37:00] | Beirdo: | who was it that I flamed a couple years ago? |
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| [19:37:00] | Beirdo: | Russell King, I think |
| [19:37:00] | CyberKnet: | it's just the protracted sessions that get really old. |
| [19:38:00] | Beirdo: | he was being his usual "I know everything" self on a mailing list and caught me on a bad day |
| [19:38:00] | Beirdo: | whoever it was |
| [19:38:00] | CyberKnet: | sounds like djb =P" |
| [19:38:00] | j-rod: | heh |
| [19:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | I have to deal with people like that |
| [19:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | I call them customers |
| [19:38:00] | Beirdo: | oh good god.. DJB is not worth thinking about |
| [19:38:00] | CyberKnet: | hahahah |
| [19:39:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: lol |
| [19:39:00] | ** CyberKnet tries to take an "I know nothing" stance when in a customer role ** | |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | hahaha |
| [19:39:00] | CyberKnet: | tech people HATE talking to other tech people in a support role. |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.os.l . . . 1133710557ca |
| [19:39:00] | Beirdo: | muhahah |
| [19:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | CyberKnet: Unfortunately I can't, since I am expected to know everything |
| [19:39:00] | GreyFoxx: | CyberKnet: heh yeah |
| [19:42:00] | GreyFoxx: | Ugh, the local PC stores all stock WD or Maxtor drives. If I want anything else I gotta order and wait *sigh* |
| [19:42:00] | CyberKnet: | I find people are nicer to me as a customer when i pretend I dont know anything and dont tell them I've already tried a, b, c, d, and e to fix x, y and z. Let them make their own mind up and if it wastes their time... so be it. |
| [19:42:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: that bites. |
| [19:43:00] | GreyFoxx: | Even if I order a SATA Seagate from one of them, they are all out |
| [19:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | I just don't trust ordering drives through the mail not to arrive busted |
| [19:47:00] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: Hmmm. I have good luck ordering from online, YMMV |
| [19:48:00] | GreyFoxx: | yeah, but I'm also suffering from the "I want it now, not tomorrow" syndrome :( |
| [19:48:00] | beavis: | my myth's crashing when i press M to change the recording group |
| [19:48:00] | Beirdo: | I was close |
| [19:48:00] | Beirdo: | it was Russell Nelson |
| [19:48:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:49:00] | Beirdo: | http://beowulf.es.embnet.org/listarchives/lin . . . 12/0029.html |
| [19:49:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:49:00] | Beirdo: | just a few years ago now |
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| [19:56:00] | _johnp: | dumb question : which is the tag for 0.18.1 ? |
| [19:56:00] | GreyFoxx: | I don't think there is one |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | release-0-18–1 I think, dunno if it exists yet |
| [19:57:00] | GreyFoxx: | 0.18.1 is just 0.18 release with hand picked patches from cvs. |
| [19:57:00] | Beirdo: | that doesn't mean it won't be tagged |
| [19:58:00] | _johnp: | was there no branch ? |
| [19:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | I'm speaking in "right now" terms, not "maybe later" terms :) |
| [19:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | _johnp: I don't think so |
| [19:58:00] | GreyFoxx: | at least nothing that was mentioned on -dev or -commits |
| [19:58:00] | Beirdo: | GreyFoxx: I think it might be tagged tonight if not already, I just haven't looked |
| [19:59:00] | _johnp: | I hate cvs when stuff like this crops up. |
| [19:59:00] | Beirdo: | don't blame the tool |
| [19:59:00] | _johnp: | but then I'm old and bitter |
| [19:59:00] | _johnp: | :) |
| [20:00:00] | _johnp: | just a guess, it might be release-0-18-fixes:, that looks like a branch. |
| [20:00:00] | Beirdo: | that's a branch |
| [20:00:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:00:00] | CyberKnet: | Beirdo: seems like you got your ass handed to you. |
| [20:00:00] | Beirdo: | I think there was a plan to use a tag at 0.18.1, I think |
| [20:01:00] | ** Beirdo pokes j-rod ** | |
| [20:01:00] | Beirdo: | wake up :) |
| [20:01:00] | ** CyberKnet considers the possibility of much ** | |
| [20:05:00] | ** j-rod wakes up, drool all over keyboard... ** | |
| [20:06:00] | kormoc: | drool on Beirdo! |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: _johnp was asking about a tag at 0.18.1 |
| [20:06:00] | j-rod: | release-0-18–1 is indeed tagged |
| [20:06:00] | Beirdo: | I figure you'd know :) |
| [20:06:00] | j-rod: | sorry if I got any drool on you, kormoc made me do it |
| [20:07:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:07:00] | j-rod: | there's a release-0-18–1 tag in the release-0-18-fixes branch |
| [20:07:00] | _johnp: | ah right |
| [20:07:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cool, have to remember that |
| [20:08:00] | j-rod: | crap cxoffice has gone out to lunch on me... |
| [20:08:00] | ** Beirdo is permanently out to lunch today ** | |
| [20:09:00] | CyberKnet: | s/much/lunch/ |
| [20:10:00] | j-rod: | probably didn't like the dist-upgrade to FC4 I did underneath it without restarting anything... |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | probably not |
| [20:11:00] | Beirdo: | you should see how happy my FC1 boxes are with dist-upgrade right now |
| [20:11:00] | j-rod: | xchat looks much nicer w/all its clearlooks goodness though |
| [20:12:00] | j-rod: | I can imagine... |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | I shit you not, they want to remove every package from the system |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | and install nothing |
| [20:12:00] | j-rod: | ow |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | so, needless to say... no dist-upgrade for me |
| [20:12:00] | j-rod: | so you really don't need atrpms support after all? |
| [20:12:00] | j-rod: | ;-) |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | yeah, I do |
| [20:12:00] | Beirdo: | I use upgrade |
| [20:12:00] | j-rod: | just no dist- |
| [20:13:00] | j-rod: | gotcha. :) |
| [20:13:00] | Beirdo: | dist-upgrade is pooched though |
| [20:13:00] | Beirdo: | and the KDE stuff I had to peg at FC2 |
| [20:13:00] | EricAnderson: | Is there anything special I need to do to get IVTV to work with a pvr-150?? Im on gentoo... Just bought the card |
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| [20:16:00] | CyberKnet: | man. mozdev.org is hammered today. |
| [20:17:00] | Beirdo: | I wish *I* was hammered |
| [20:17:00] | ** GreyFoxx takes a hammer to Beirdo ** | |
| [20:18:00] | Beirdo: | I'll make a dent in the booze when I finally get home |
| [20:18:00] | ** CyberKnet just started using the greasemonkey extension with the corralize script ** | |
| [20:18:00] | j-rod: | pass the hammer when you're done with it |
| [20:19:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:19:00] | Beirdo: | I could so use being totally hammered right now. |
| [20:19:00] | ** laga ran out of beer two days ago. ** | |
| [20:19:00] | Beirdo: | would be so much better than this Monday crap |
| [20:19:00] | ** CyberKnet wonders why greasemonkey doesn't appear to be working ** | |
| [20:20:00] | laga: | hahaha. you actually have to work today, i forgot |
| [20:20:00] | ** Beirdo slaps laga with the trout ** | |
| [20:21:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [20:22:00] | ** Beirdo tosses the hammer over to j-rod ** | |
| [20:23:00] | ** j-rod catches hammer, starts flailing about wildly with it ** | |
| [20:24:00] | j-rod: | Duck and run, you sonsabitches!!! |
| [20:24:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:24:00] | j-rod: | I hate Mondays. |
| [20:24:00] | EricAnderson: | Is there anythign special above the regular howtos that must be done to get a 150 working?? |
| [20:24:00] | CyberKnet: | hah |
| [20:24:00] | j-rod: | And I hate waiting... |
| [20:24:00] | CyberKnet: | I hate Mondays too. |
| [20:26:00] | _johnp: | there's a song in there somewhere/ |
| [20:26:00] | Beirdo: | Mondays su-diddley-uck |
| [20:26:00] | Beirdo: | at least I get next Monday off |
| [20:31:00] | Beirdo: | hhehe |
| [20:31:00] | ** Beirdo listens to some Monty Python ** | |
| [20:32:00] | laga: | i'll be seeing verdun, a battlefield in the WWI, tomorrow. should be interesting. |
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| [20:34:00] | ** j-rod listens to some Rolling Stones ** | |
| [20:35:00] | j-rod: | "let your body do the dirty work" |
| [20:35:00] | ** laga listens to some equilibirum ** | |
| [20:35:00] | laga: | equilibrium* |
| [20:35:00] | j-rod: | "find some loser, find some jerk" |
| [20:35:00] | Beirdo: | "I like Chinese.... they only come up to your knees..." |
| [20:36:00] | Beirdo: | Monty Python is funny, even if not politically correct |
| [20:37:00] | j-rod: | no doubt |
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| [20:39:00] | Beirdo: | wow, look who finally showed up :) |
| [20:39:00] | Beirdo: | heya xris :) |
| [20:39:00] | laga: | morning xris |
| [20:39:00] | xris: | give me a break. I'm on vacation |
| [20:39:00] | Beirdo: | oh right |
| [20:39:00] | Beirdo: | I forgot :)( |
| [20:39:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [20:40:00] | Beirdo: | how is the vacation treating you? |
| [20:40:00] | xris: | vacation is good. |
| [20:40:00] | xris: | supposedly getting my hair cut today, though. |
| [20:40:00] | xris: | not sure if that's good or not. |
| [20:40:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:40:00] | ** Beirdo hands xris' wife the sheep shearers ** | |
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| [20:41:00] | laga: | it's not good |
| [20:41:00] | Beirdo: | it's all good |
| [20:42:00] | Beirdo: | especially if it makes his wife happy :) |
| [20:42:00] | laga: | noma'am! |
| [20:42:00] | Beirdo: | you'll be single a while, laga :) |
| [20:42:00] | xris: | lol |
| [20:42:00] | Beirdo: | even *I* know that, and I'm 31 and single |
| [20:42:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:43:00] | laga: | i've been one for 4 years now ;) |
| [20:43:00] | Beirdo: | "yes dear" is the correct answer |
| [20:43:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [20:43:00] | xris: | I'm getting tired of my long hair. keeps getting in the way of things. |
| [20:43:00] | laga: | heh |
| [20:43:00] | xris: | and besides, I can always grow it back. |
| [20:43:00] | Beirdo: | and it's a lot of work too |
| [20:43:00] | laga: | yep. takes 2 years or so. |
| [20:44:00] | ** j-rod has almost no hair now, after shoulder-length stuff about two weeks ago ** | |
| [20:44:00] | ** Beirdo needs to buzz the dome again ** | |
| [20:44:00] | j-rod: | it'll take xris a lot longer than 2 years to grow all that back |
| [20:44:00] | laga: | this is causing phantom pain in my hair. |
| [20:44:00] | laga: | j-rod: yep. |
| [20:45:00] | m1ke: | man if i cut my hair i'd lose all my coding power! call me e-samson |
| [20:46:00] | laga: | i didn't have any coding power when my hair was short, and neither am i having now. i probably need to grow it longer. |
| [20:46:00] | laga: | well, i learnt some turbo pascal in school. |
| [20:46:00] | ** kormoc can't cut his hair this summer. ** | |
| [20:47:00] | Beirdo: | it took me about 4 to get it really long |
| [20:47:00] | Beirdo: | then I didn't want it long anymore |
| [20:47:00] | xris: | j-rod: 2–3.. I don't like it THIS long, anyway. 6–8 inches shorter is much easier to manage. |
| [20:47:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [20:48:00] | Beirdo: | then I went shoulder-length at most, now < 1/2" |
| [20:48:00] | j-rod: | mine was going for about a year, but grows really fast |
| [20:48:00] | laga: | concerts are no fun without long hair |
| [20:48:00] | m1ke: | i don't know, i've had hair mid-back for 10 years now |
| [20:48:00] | Beirdo: | laga: bah |
| [20:48:00] | laga: | Beirdo: heh. |
| [20:48:00] | xris: | m1ke: mine's almost to my waist |
| [20:48:00] | m1ke: | i guess it doesn't bother me... i don't spend much time on it and it looks (to me at least) fine |
| [20:48:00] | xris: | m1ke: I agree. wife doesn't. |
| [20:49:00] | m1ke: | yeah i let mine dip that long once but had to cut it shorter ;) |
| [20:49:00] | j-rod: | yup, wife was one reason mine got chopped |
| [20:49:00] | xris: | and I'm sort of curious what I'd look like with short hair again. |
| [20:49:00] | Beirdo: | "yes dear" |
| [20:49:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [20:49:00] | xris: | it's been about 8 years. |
| [20:49:00] | m1ke: | yeah my hair's longer than the wife's |
| [20:49:00] | j-rod: | bingo |
| [20:49:00] | Beirdo: | I had longer hair than both of my sisters for a while |
| [20:49:00] | xris: | ok, off I go shopping.. later, all. |
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| [20:49:00] | laga: | lotsa women dig long hair. |
| [20:49:00] | ** kormoc wave ** | |
| [20:49:00] | kormoc: | s |
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| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | I'll just stick with the beard |
| [20:50:00] | kormoc: | laga, ya, I just was told last night nope to myself cutting my hair |
| [20:50:00] | kormoc: | I was like, I should shave my head soon, and Ariel just said, NOPE! and I looked at her quizically, and she just said Nope! Not gonna happen, and so that's that I guess :P |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:50:00] | Beirdo: | there you go |
| [20:50:00] | laga: | kormoc: hehe. |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | shave it... :) |
| [20:51:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:51:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [20:51:00] | kormoc: | I was thinkin bout it... :P |
| [20:52:00] | Beirdo: | but if she doesn't want it shaved, I guess you'd better get to like it not shaved :) |
| [20:52:00] | kormoc: | I don't mind it long, it's just normal summer routine, just shave it all off and enjoy. |
| [20:52:00] | Beirdo: | you can likely at least take the hedge trimmer to it |
| [20:53:00] | kormoc: | yeah, it's gonna get at least a little shorter, it's all scruffy right now |
| [20:53:00] | j-rod: | I told my wife to shave it... Oh, wait, you guys are talking about your heads... |
| [20:53:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [20:53:00] | Beirdo: | haha |
| [20:54:00] | laga: | j-rod: well, what did seh say? |
| [20:54:00] | ** laga hides ** | |
| [20:54:00] | j-rod: | hehe |
| [20:54:00] | ** Beirdo points at MythLogBot ** | |
| [20:54:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:54:00] | j-rod: | ^H^H^H^H |
| [20:54:00] | twitchmax: | j-rod: what march/mcpu flags did you have to give myth to get it to compile on amd64? k8 doesn't seem to like me... |
| [20:55:00] | j-rod: | whatever RH decided to send it |
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| [20:55:00] | twitchmax: | oh, well... |
| [20:56:00] | twitchmax: | anyone else running myth on amd64? |
| [20:57:00] | j-rod: | rpmrc says: optflags: x86_64 -O2 -g |
| [20:58:00] | Beirdo: | k8 only will work with GCC 3.4, no? |
| [20:58:00] | Beirdo: | or is it 3.3.4? |
| [20:58:00] | Beirdo: | damn, I can never remember anything |
| [20:59:00] | j-rod: | beats me |
| [20:59:00] | Beirdo: | one version I had bitched loudly about it. |
| [20:59:00] | j-rod: | I'd have to shell over to another box, I'm gcc 4 here now... |
| [21:00:00] | j-rod: | 4 does have k8 as a mtune option |
| [21:00:00] | j-rod: | and march |
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| [21:02:00] | TheUni3: | if i'm using a firewire connection to my cablebox, can i watch\record at the same time? or would i need antother capture card for that? |
| [21:02:00] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [21:02:00] | Beirdo: | just don't know which one |
| [21:02:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [21:03:00] | kormoc: | actually |
| [21:03:00] | kormoc: | the cablebox is the tuner, no? |
| [21:03:00] | Beirdo: | normally, if you want to watch what you are not recording, you need separate tuners |
| [21:03:00] | kormoc: | so you'd need a second cablebox to watch and record at the same time, no? |
| [21:03:00] | TheUni3: | or just firewire + pvr150 ? |
| [21:04:00] | kormoc: | can the pvr150 tune the digital cable? |
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| [21:04:00] | TheUni3: | mmm... hadn't thought about that |
| [21:04:00] | Beirdo: | no it can't |
| [21:04:00] | Beirdo: | it can only do analog |
| [21:04:00] | TheUni3: | i could use the cable w/o the box, but then it'd be analog and the channels would be different |
| [21:05:00] | TheUni3: | so with digital cable, i'm screwed? |
| [21:05:00] | Beirdo: | you will need the digital cable boxes |
| [21:06:00] | TheUni3: | 2 of em? |
| [21:06:00] | kormoc: | for two inputs, aye |
| [21:06:00] | TheUni3: | yikes |
| [21:06:00] | kormoc: | three for three, and so on |
| [21:06:00] | TheUni3: | so all you guys use analog cable, then? |
| [21:07:00] | kormoc: | I do, indeed |
| [21:07:00] | TheUni3: | *sigh* |
| [21:07:00] | TheUni3: | i'd miss out on like 300 channels if i went back to analog |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | so get some cable boxes |
| [21:08:00] | TheUni3: | well if i'm gonna do that, i may as well just upgrade to the cable box w/ pvr built in : |
| [21:08:00] | TheUni3: | \:\ |
| [21:08:00] | TheUni3: | right? |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | if you want to |
| [21:08:00] | Beirdo: | whatever, it's your TV watching |
| [21:09:00] | TheUni3: | i'm just curious as to what the advantages would be. if i'm gonna spend $700 or so for the computer, then get another cable box, how would that be better than just getting a cable box w/ pvr? |
| [21:10:00] | kormoc: | honestly, in your case, likly it wouldn't be better |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | because you aren't tied down to whatever they tell you your PVR will be able to do |
| [21:10:00] | TheUni3: | what do you mean? |
| [21:10:00] | TheUni3: | oh, ok |
| [21:10:00] | Beirdo: | the cable company PVR may or may not let you skip commercials, etc |
| [21:11:00] | Beirdo: | likely will never let you burn DVDs |
| [21:11:00] | Beirdo: | etc |
| [21:11:00] | TheUni3: | right |
| [21:11:00] | TheUni3: | so i guess mainly at this stage, mythtv is used better\mainly for analog cable, then? |
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| [21:12:00] | Beirdo: | or HDTV, DVB, digital cable, etc |
| [21:12:00] | Beirdo: | you can use it for whatever you can capture |
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| [21:36:00] | EricAnderson: | Which filesystem works best on an lvm |
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| [21:39:00] | Esotericisms: | hey everyone |
| [21:39:00] | Esotericisms: | hey I just bought a pvr-150 ... can someone share with my who is running fedora what their modprobe.conf looks like |
| [21:39:00] | laga: | Esotericisms: www.wilsonet.com |
| [21:40:00] | Esotericisms: | you think his PVR-150MCE will work> |
| [21:40:00] | laga: | find out ;) |
| [21:40:00] | j-rod: | mine does |
| [21:40:00] | laga: | j-rod: i'd hope so... |
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| [21:41:00] | j-rod: | ah, though you may also need 'alias msp3400 msp3400-ivtv', 'alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv' and 'alias tuner tuner-ivtv' |
| [21:41:00] | EricAnderson: | Im gonna have to do that too |
| [21:41:00] | j-rod: | heh, yeah, you'd hope so... But really, I just make everything up |
| [21:41:00] | j-rod: | :) |
| [21:41:00] | EricAnderson: | I just bought a 150 |
| [21:42:00] | laga: | j-rod: i figured that when i was trying to install fedora. it doesnt even exist. ;) |
| [21:42:00] | j-rod: | I need to add those alias bits |
| [21:42:00] | Esotericisms: | ok |
| [21:42:00] | j-rod: | as in , I need to add them to the doc |
| [21:42:00] | j-rod: | laga, I think you're the first to figure me out... |
| [21:42:00] | laga: | j-rod: i know, i'm smart |
| [21:43:00] | Esotericisms: | the pvr150 still uses bttv right? |
| [21:43:00] | j-rod: | NO |
| [21:43:00] | j-rod: | ivtv |
| [21:43:00] | Esotericisms: | ok just checking |
| [21:43:00] | Esotericisms: | I don't want to have to reinstall everything |
| [21:43:00] | Esotericisms: | just saw that |
| [21:43:00] | j-rod: | there's hardly ever a reason to reinstall everything |
| [21:43:00] | laga: | with those hardware encoders, you have to write down each bit and generate md5sums with your calculator |
| [21:44:00] | j-rod: | I prefer to do sha1 checksums in my head |
| [21:44:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [21:44:00] | j-rod: | (I'm smrt) |
| [21:45:00] | Esotericisms: | how od I reload modprobe.conf ? |
| [21:45:00] | Beirdo: | I am so smart... S-M-R-T smart! |
| [21:45:00] | j-rod: | reload modprobe.conf? |
| [21:45:00] | Esotericisms: | if I just edit it takes effect immediately? |
| [21:46:00] | j-rod: | not exactly |
| [21:46:00] | j-rod: | you need to run "depmod -ae" to re-process module dependencies |
| [21:46:00] | Esotericisms: | thanks |
| [21:46:00] | j-rod: | (actually, I'm not certain if that's necessary or not) |
| [21:46:00] | Esotericisms: | learn something new every day |
| [21:46:00] | j-rod: | then reload the modules in question |
| [21:47:00] | j-rod: | (I'm REALLY smrt) |
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| [21:56:00] | Esotericisms: | alright now just to get the damn remote working :/ |
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| [22:00:00] | Esotericisms: | can anyone help with my remote setup? |
| [22:02:00] | Esotericisms: | alright my fedora install isn't recognizing my card! |
| [22:02:00] | Esotericisms: | arg |
| [22:02:00] | laga: | Esotericisms: just follow jarods guide ;) |
| [22:03:00] | Esotericisms: | I am trying ... remember I was using a wintv go .. now I have to switch over ... I don't want to start from square one though |
| [22:04:00] | laga: | install ivtv. |
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| [22:07:00] | Esotericisms: | got it recognized ... just trying to get it working now |
| [22:09:00] | Esotericisms: | damnit |
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| [22:12:00] | Esotericisms: | now my system is just jacked! |
| [22:17:00] | Esotericisms: | alright I have followed the steps in jarods guide ... I got nothing |
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| [22:20:00] | Esotericisms: | anyone around that has the PVR150 that can help me? |
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| [22:21:00] | j-rod: | Eso, what seems to be the problem? |
| [22:23:00] | Pookie: | Has anyone used Jarod's Guide to update with apt-get? |
| [22:23:00] | j-rod: | Esotericisms, post log output and I'll get you squared away |
| [22:23:00] | j-rod: | Pookie, ooh, ooh, I have! |
| [22:23:00] | ribaldjester: | Pookie – Yes..it's worked very well for me |
| [22:23:00] | Pookie: | did you get an error? |
| [22:23:00] | j-rod: | errors happen sometimes |
| [22:23:00] | j-rod: | what's the error? |
| [22:23:00] | ribaldjester: | couple of issues |
| [22:24:00] | laga: | "error running scriplets?" ;) |
| [22:24:00] | j-rod: | fyi, Pookie, I'm Jarod |
| [22:24:00] | Pookie: | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| [22:24:00] | Pookie: | W: There are multiple versions of "cyrus-sasl" in your system. |
| [22:24:00] | Pookie: | This package won't be cleanly updated, unless you leave |
| [22:24:00] | Pookie: | only one version. To leave multiple versions installed, |
| [22:24:00] | Pookie: | you may remove that warning by setting the following |
| [22:24:00] | Pookie: | option in your configuration file: |
| [22:24:00] | Pookie: | That happened for several packages |
| [22:24:00] | Esotericisms: | j-rod, I am trying to figure out if my PVR-150 is working (or recognized) |
| [22:24:00] | ribaldjester: | lol – hi Jarod – thanks for the guide |
| [22:24:00] | j-rod: | I gotta see a box that can't run scriptlets at all some day, laga... :) |
| [22:24:00] | ribaldjester: | :) |
| [22:24:00] | j-rod: | seems like it would be a fun challenge |
| [22:25:00] | laga: | j-rod: ssh 192.168.0.139 here ;) |
| [22:25:00] | Pookie: | Hi Jarrod lol |
| [22:25:00] | j-rod: | Eso, post some log output |
| [22:25:00] | j-rod: | Pookie, rpm -q cyrus-sasl |
| [22:25:00] | ** j-rod waves ** | |
| [22:25:00] | beavis: | how's called the value of the recording group in the settings table? |
| [22:26:00] | Pookie: | so do I do that for the 40 or so duplicate packages then try it again? |
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| [22:26:00] | j-rod: | Pookie, is that an Athlon 64 box? |
| [22:26:00] | Pookie: | yes it is |
| [22:27:00] | ** j-rod busts out the trout ** | |
| [22:27:00] | j-rod: | in the intro section, methinks you missed the little part that says "thou shalt not use apt on an Athlon 64 system" |
| [22:27:00] | j-rod: | apt barfs on multiarch systems |
| [22:27:00] | Pookie: | lol...really? |
| [22:27:00] | j-rod: | you gotta use yum or smart instead |
| [22:27:00] | Pookie: | ah, ok |
| [22:28:00] | Pookie: | I wondered why it didn't download the x86 versions |
| [22:28:00] | GotD0t: | just out of curiousity... why cant you use apt on an Athlon 64? |
| [22:28:00] | Pookie: | I did get the right version of atrpms though |
| [22:29:00] | CyberKnet: | ooooookay. |
| [22:29:00] | j-rod: | its not that you can't use it on an Athlon 64 per se |
| [22:29:00] | j-rod: | its that apt isn't multiarch aware |
| [22:29:00] | j-rod: | if you have a pure 64-bit system with no 32-bit pieces, it'll work |
| [22:29:00] | GotD0t: | oh |
| [22:29:00] | j-rod: | but not everything is 64-bit clean just yet |
| [22:30:00] | GotD0t: | i see |
| [22:30:00] | j-rod: | apt thinks it has to remove dupes if you have both the x86 and x86_64 versions of a package |
| [22:30:00] | Pookie: | j-rod, I understand.....they just love to make my install more interesting. I've been at it for some time. Guess I missed that part in the beginning. |
| [22:30:00] | GotD0t: | well i dont use debian or an athlon 64 so im good... i just never heard that before |
| [22:31:00] | Pookie: | back to reading I guess...thanks for the tip........nice FAQ |
| [22:31:00] | j-rod: | GotD0t, I'm not talking about debian. :) |
| [22:31:00] | j-rod: | (though it applies equally) |
| [22:31:00] | j-rod: | apt for rpm |
| [22:32:00] | GotD0t: | whatever... im a gentoo whore |
| [22:32:00] | GotD0t: | hehe |
| [22:32:00] | j-rod: | been there, done that |
| [22:32:00] | GotD0t: | i just use gentoo because i cant stand anything but portage |
| [22:33:00] | Pookie: | If I update the system with the GUI ...will that do most of it? |
| [22:33:00] | j-rod: | Pookie, what gui? synaptic? |
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| [22:33:00] | j-rod: | synaptic is a gui frontend to apt, so no |
| [22:33:00] | Pookie: | you know, the little exclaimation point that flashes on the KDE desktop |
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| [22:34:00] | j-rod: | oh, that thing |
| [22:34:00] | j-rod: | hm... |
| [22:34:00] | j-rod: | I don't think its set up with pointers to atrpms until after a dist-upgrade w/the kickstart |
| [22:35:00] | j-rod: | I'd add a yum repo file for atrpms (see http://atrpms.net/install.html ) then yum upgrade |
| [22:35:00] | kramman: | can someone tell me where to RTFM for what the question mark in this means: $this->name = isset( $servers[$server_id]['name'] ) ? $servers[$server_id]['name'] : ''; |
| [22:35:00] | Pookie: | alrighty...tnx |
| [22:35:00] | j-rod: | np |
| [22:35:00] | j-rod: | I'm long overdue to add A64-specific notes... |
| [22:36:00] | Riff-Raff: | kramman: terse form for if( $servers[$server_id]['name']) { $servers[$server_id]['name'] } else { '' }; |
| [22:36:00] | kramman: | sorry, wrong channel :| |
| [22:36:00] | kramman: | ok, thanks a lot Riff-Raff – sorry to ask in the wrong channel! |
| [22:36:00] | Riff-Raff: | np |
| [22:36:00] | j-rod: | bbiaw, gotta run to the broker, get some shit squared away so I can cash out on some options... =) |
| [22:37:00] | Beirdo: | cool |
| [22:38:00] | visit0r: | Riff-Raff: anything new with DVB Sub? |
| [22:38:00] | Pookie: | J-rod...if you are talking about this one "http://dl.atrpms.net/other/packages/fedora-3- . . . pm"...I did that one first as advised in the FAQ |
| [22:39:00] | Pookie: | So I should be able to do the exclaimation point one now |
| [22:42:00] | ribaldjester: | possible |
| [22:42:00] | Esotericisms: | in the mythtvsetup section ... is the PVR-150 a card-type 'standard v4l capture card' |
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| [22:47:00] | Esotericisms: | ... |
| [22:53:00] | braniff: | where do i put the MythTVMediaCenter theme so mythtvsetup can find it ?? |
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| [22:56:00] | Esotericisms: | alright ivtv isn't getting loaded on install |
| [22:57:00] | dcfogg: | ok so I have video and audio but when I exit mythfrontend the audio keeps playing |
| [22:57:00] | braniff: | Esotericisms, "apt-get install ivtv" |
| [22:58:00] | Esotericisms: | already installed |
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| [22:59:00] | braniff: | modprobe ivtv ? |
| [22:59:00] | Esotericisms: | yeah I have to do that each time my system reboots ... but I still can't get my pvr-150 working |
| [23:00:00] | braniff: | put "alias ivtv ivtv" in /etc/modprobe.conf |
| [23:01:00] | Beirdo: | home time |
| [23:01:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:01:00] | ribaldjester: | my system is the same way – each time I reboot – I loose /dev/video have to modprobe ivtv |
| [23:01:00] | Beirdo: | uhh, that alias will do squat |
| [23:01:00] | Beirdo: | anyways, going home |
| [23:02:00] | dcfogg: | does anyone know why the audio doesn't shut down when I exit mythtv???? |
| [23:02:00] | braniff: | is the audio behind the video in mythtv ? |
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| [23:02:00] | Esotericisms: | I am about ready to just reinstall fedora and start from scratch .. this is pissing me off |
| [23:03:00] | dcfogg: | the audio is on /dev/dsp |
| [23:04:00] | braniff: | dcfogg, i think your mixer settings are off |
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| [23:04:00] | CygnusX1_: | Hello. If I modify the default recording profile, will this modify the settings for already scheduled programs? |
| [23:05:00] | dcfogg: | what do you mean?? |
| [23:05:00] | ** braniff "uses the source, Luke" on his mythtvsetup problem ** | |
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| [23:06:00] | CygnusX1_: | dcfogg, I scheduled two weeks worth of Star Trek: TNG last night under the default profile. Upon checking today, transcoding is on on my default profile...I don't want this enabled. |
| [23:07:00] | CygnusX1_: | If I turn it off, will this be the effective setting for the next two weeks of TNG, or, do I need to reschedule them? |
| [23:07:00] | Esotericisms: | who has the PVR150 installed? |
| [23:07:00] | braniff: | CygnusX1_, yes it will modify your already scheduled programs |
| [23:07:00] | CygnusX1_: | braniff, Thank you! |
| [23:07:00] | CygnusX1_: | Esotericisms, I do |
| [23:07:00] | braniff: | np |
| [23:08:00] | Esotericisms: | what are your settings in mythtvsetup for your card? |
| [23:09:00] | CygnusX1_: | Any part specifically? |
| [23:09:00] | Esotericisms: | is it standard v4l capture card? |
| [23:10:00] | Esotericisms: | I am assuming you have a coax cable hooked up right? what is the Default Input? |
| [23:10:00] | CygnusX1_: | Hang on |
| [23:10:00] | Esotericisms: | k |
| [23:12:00] | CygnusX1_: | Card type: MPEG-2 Encoder (PVR250, etc), /dev/v4l/video0, tuner0 |
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| [23:13:00] | Esotericisms: | k |
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| [23:17:00] | neoshroom: | Hey. Is there any very kind person in the pacific time zone willing to record a show for me. My friend made an appearance on TV today, but nobody got a chance to see it because it was on daytime TV and everyone was at work. You guys are my only hope. |
| [23:17:00] | Esotericisms: | damnit it still doesn't work! |
| [23:18:00] | Esotericisms: | wtf! |
| [23:19:00] | kormoc: | neoshroom, what show/channel? |
| [23:19:00] | neoshroom: | The Ellen Degeneres Show (I know its horrible) |
| [23:20:00] | Esotericisms: | damnit damnit damnit |
| [23:21:00] | neoshroom: | My friend apparently danced with Ellen on stage on the show and made a complete fool of himself |
| [23:21:00] | neoshroom: | hehe |
| [23:21:00] | neoshroom: | a strait guy |
| [23:21:00] | neoshroom: | too |
| [23:21:00] | kormoc: | which epsode? :P |
| [23:22:00] | neoshroom: | he told me J Lo is the interviewee |
| [23:22:00] | neoshroom: | (barf again) |
| [23:22:00] | kormoc: | yeah, it's not on my lineup... |
| [23:22:00] | kormoc: | these are all running 11pm to midnight |
| [23:22:00] | kormoc: | sorry |
| [23:23:00] | neoshroom: | hmm |
| [23:23:00] | neoshroom: | 11pm to midnight tonight |
| [23:23:00] | neoshroom: | > |
| [23:23:00] | neoshroom: | ? |
| [23:23:00] | kormoc: | yeah, and it's neil diamond and some fat accresses actress, no jlo on the list at all |
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| [23:23:00] | neoshroom: | oh well |
| [23:24:00] | neoshroom: | anyone else willing to help in a place that actually has it? |
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| [23:27:00] | neoshroom: | :-/ |
| [23:28:00] | Esotericisms: | hello |
| [23:28:00] | Esotericisms: | CygnusX1_, you there? |
| [23:30:00] | Esotericisms: | anyone around? |
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| [23:35:00] | CygnusX1_: | Esotericisms, yes |
| [23:36:00] | CygnusX1_: | Esotericisms, just so you know, this is my first and a half Myth Box. |
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| [23:36:00] | neoshroom: | anyone in a time zone that ellen is yet to play and willing to record it for me (i hate the show too but my friend was on it today) |
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| [23:38:00] | CygnusX1_: | I started out with Knoppmyth a few weeks ago...couldn't get that to work right. Then, I installed Slack 10.1, compiled a 2.6.11.7 kernel (I think this is important...has a tuner missing from previous kernels), ivtv 0.3.3k (it came out the day I compiled it, works great, so, I have not tried anything later) |
| [23:38:00] | CygnusX1_: | I cannot get lirc wircing though. |
| [23:38:00] | CygnusX1_: | myth 0.18 btw as well |
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| [23:40:00] | Esotericisms: | this is driving me crazy |
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| [23:45:00] | CygnusX1_: | Esotericisms, what trouble are you having, exactly? |
| [23:45:00] | Esotericisms: | damn card doesn't work |
| [23:45:00] | Esotericisms: | nothing I do makes it work |
| [23:45:00] | j-rod: | post log output |
| [23:45:00] | j-rod: | I've become quite good at debugging these things. :) |
| [23:46:00] | j-rod: | (I'm back) |
| [23:46:00] | Esotericisms: | from what log |
| [23:46:00] | Esotericisms: | what log |
| [23:47:00] | Esotericisms: | do I follow 'for ivtv-based cards' or 'hauppauge pvr-150 and pvr-500 capture cards' or both |
| [23:47:00] | Esotericisms: | I am about to throw my damn pc out the f-ing window ... this is a headache |
| [23:47:00] | j-rod: | the pvr-150 stuff |
| [23:47:00] | j-rod: | which then points you back to the pvr-250/350 stuff |
| [23:48:00] | j-rod: | and includes a little script (tac something something something) |
| [23:48:00] | j-rod: | that grabs the required log output |
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| [23:48:00] | j-rod: | or just 'dmesg' |
| [23:48:00] | j-rod: | and grab everything between === START IVTV ===== and ==== END IVTV ==== |
| [23:49:00] | j-rod: | or whatever it is |
| [23:49:00] | Esotericisms: | k |
| [23:49:00] | j-rod: | should be able to tell from that output what's up |
| [23:50:00] | j-rod: | bbiab |
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| [23:51:00] | Esotericisms: | where do you want me to post it? |
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| [23:59:00] | NightMonkey: | So, anyone try the new LxMSuite yet? |
| [23:59:00] | Esotericisms: | j-rod? where do you want me to post it? |
| [23:59:00] | j-rod: | Esotericisms, pastebin.ca |
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| [23:59:00] | j-rod: | NightMonkey, the theme, yes, the rest, not yet |
| [23:59:00] | j-rod: | speak of the devil... |
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