| Thursday, May 12th, 2005, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:00] | o_cee: | anyone tried lxnays gentoo livecd? need to grow an ext3 with parted |
| [00:00:00] | mchou: | slyboots: it's locked cause you have bad permissions. |
| [00:00:00] | slyboots: | It if was bad permissions, why does xawtv work? |
| [00:00:00] | slyboots: | and tvtool, and half a dozzen other programs |
| [00:01:00] | xris: | slyboots: um, maybe because xawtv is taking control of the card? |
| [00:01:00] | mchou: | cause you run those proggies as yourself. mythbackend might not be running as yourself. |
| [00:01:00] | slyboots: | mythbackend is |
| [00:01:00] | xris: | slyboots: do you have more channels imported into myth? (aka mythfilldatabase) |
| [00:01:00] | mchou: | only way to tell is if it works as root, then you got perm problemss |
| [00:02:00] | slyboots: | Yes, The listings show up corerctly |
| [00:02:00] | slyboots: | You just cant change the channel from inside myth |
| [00:02:00] | Shibz: | will my PVR500 work with the newest knoppmyth or will I have to get the latest ivtv drivers? |
| [00:02:00] | mchou: | lol, what does the frontend and BE say when you try to change channels? |
| [00:03:00] | slyboots: | Nothing, Just wont change the channel |
| [00:03:00] | j-rod: | Shibz, I'd suggest the latest ivtv drivers |
| [00:03:00] | xris: | slyboots: `mythfrontend -v all` |
| [00:03:00] | mchou: | slyboots: only real way to diagnose the problem..... |
| [00:03:00] | slyboots: | You type in the number, it waits for a second or so, then does nothing |
| [00:03:00] | xris: | slyboots: try hitting enter after typing the number |
| [00:03:00] | slyboots: | Tried that |
| [00:03:00] | mchou: | slyboots: whe dont care what the GUI does. We want the messages. |
| [00:03:00] | slyboots: | I even ordred myth to try and tape a show that is on right now |
| [00:04:00] | slyboots: | It just started recording the pre-set channel that xawtv was last on |
| [00:04:00] | mchou: | we* |
| [00:04:00] | xris: | slyboots: frequency table set correctly? (us-cable vs us-bcast vs something-non-us?) |
| [00:04:00] | slyboots: | Yup |
| [00:04:00] | j-rod: | or some other setting in the card setup that shouldn't be there... |
| [00:05:00] | mchou: | slyboots: why dont you past output of mythfrontend. |
| [00:05:00] | mchou: | paste* |
| [00:05:00] | slyboots: | Because its about 20 pages long |
| [00:05:00] | mchou: | in pastebin. |
| [00:05:00] | slyboots: | "waiting for space on soundcard.." |
| [00:05:00] | mchou: | lol, 20 pp. long means something is screwed up. |
| [00:05:00] | j-rod: | try enabling extra audio buffering |
| [00:05:00] | j-rod: | if it isn't already |
| [00:06:00] | j-rod: | and yeah, something is wonky |
| [00:06:00] | xris: | j-rod: I get that at work, too. |
| [00:06:00] | slyboots: | Its just the smae message over and over |
| [00:06:00] | j-rod: | hm... |
| [00:06:00] | slyboots: | All to do with the soundcard |
| [00:07:00] | slyboots: | Is there a way to disable sound totaly? |
| [00:07:00] | slyboots: | (Just to remove that issue for the moment) |
| [00:07:00] | mchou: | slyboots: paste the unique commands in pastebin 'sort mesg.txt | uniq' |
| [00:09:00] | slyboots: | Its now producing the errror message : |
| [00:09:00] | slyboots: | 2005-05–12 00:07:57.420 Channel(/dev/video0): CheckChannel failed. Please verify channel "A0" in the "setup" Channel Editor. |
| [00:09:00] | mchou: | That's it?? |
| [00:09:00] | slyboots: | .. Several times, each message the "A0" section changes |
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| [00:10:00] | mchou: | lol, you are from UK. No wonder you are scred up :) |
| [00:10:00] | mchou: | screwed* |
| [00:10:00] | slyboots: | Wtf is that ment to mean |
| [00:11:00] | mchou: | it means "take it easy" |
| [00:12:00] | gr8nash: | LOL |
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| [00:12:00] | mchou: | That message is probably saying channel A0 is not set up properly in myth. |
| [00:12:00] | slyboots: | There is no Channel A0, thats just static |
| [00:12:00] | slyboots: | And it produces that message for every possabel channel on the card, Im rerunning mythtv-setup, but I dont see how it will help |
| [00:13:00] | mchou: | heh. |
| [00:14:00] | mchou: | all you Europeans have funky channel assignments. |
| [00:14:00] | mchou: | need to read the European myth HOWTO :) |
| [00:14:00] | slyboots: | What european myth howto? |
| [00:15:00] | mchou: | slyboots: eurpeans need to use the channel editor in myth, iirc. |
| [00:16:00] | slyboots: | I would if it made any sence |
| [00:16:00] | slyboots: | There is no area to add a channel reference |
| [00:16:00] | mchou: | huh???? |
| [00:16:00] | j-rod: | xris, crap, now they want to do conditional rewriting, sending it to a different location if $1 is empty. :) |
| [00:16:00] | j-rod: | shoulda just kept quiet. |
| [00:16:00] | mchou: | j-rod: what are you referring to? |
| [00:17:00] | j-rod: | some mod_rewrite stuff to redirect urls and parameters. :) |
| [00:17:00] | mchou: | ahh.... |
| [00:17:00] | j-rod: | xris is my web programming manual |
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| [00:19:00] | ** slyboots streches out ** | |
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| [00:19:00] | slyboots: | Christ Im getting too old for this crap |
| [00:20:00] | slyboots: | Hold on, mythfilldatabase last messsage is "Unknown socket" (After it connects to the mythbackend |
| [00:20:00] | slyboots: | that supposed to happen? |
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| [00:21:00] | slyboots: | Bless the good god its working!! |
| [00:21:00] | slyboots: | Ish, the listings are wrong.. |
| [00:23:00] | xris: | j-rod: that's not too hard. |
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| [00:24:00] | xris: | anyone here ever mess with winmyth? |
| [00:24:00] | ZMorek: | when I boot, mythfrontend doesn't detect the backend as running, so I exited, and checked the status of it, it says "mythbackend dead but pid file exists" |
| [00:25:00] | Esotericisms: | anyone have experience with setting up a video card for a tv without having a true s-video or rca out? |
| [00:25:00] | tuxristo: | xris, just googled for it, god it's ugly eh |
| [00:26:00] | xris: | tuxristo: yes. but it supposedly works. I can't get it to work, though. keep getting "unknown codec" errors. |
| [00:26:00] | j-rod: | xris, yeah, I think I have a functional rule pairing |
| [00:26:00] | ** slyboots is tempted to write his own Howto for myth ** | |
| [00:26:00] | slyboots: | For us poor Euro bastards |
| [00:26:00] | kormoc: | go for it |
| [00:26:00] | ** j-rod was tempted, and look at all the trouble it got him into... ** | |
| [00:27:00] | xris: | slyboots: jarod usually happily takes additions to his guide |
| [00:27:00] | j-rod: | though he hasn't had much time to work in anything new lately |
| [00:27:00] | Esotericisms: | anyone have experience with setting up a video card for a tv without having a true s-video or rca out? ...? |
| [00:27:00] | ** slyboots nods "I just need to get Audio working, not sure quiet whats going wrong there just yet ** | |
| [00:28:00] | xris: | irc needs an in-sentence /me equivalent. |
| [00:28:00] | slyboots: | But just getting myth to work was a hell of a lot more work than it realy should have been |
| [00:28:00] | j-rod: | xris, I'm chaining off the HTTP_HOST rule and then looking for a null QUERY_STRING, and then forwarding to one url, then the next rule set is the original one |
| [00:28:00] | slyboots: | Mostly down to just daft mistakes |
| [00:28:00] | tuxristo: | xris, what codec did you install? |
| [00:28:00] | j-rod: | sound about right? |
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| [00:30:00] | xris: | tuxristo: dsmyth |
| [00:30:00] | j-rod: | er, wait, can I chain RewriteCond ?... (thinking outloud) |
| [00:30:00] | xris: | but I'm wondering if maybe the machine is missing the mpeg2 codec |
| [00:30:00] | slyboots: | And thats the channels listed right :) |
| [00:31:00] | ** j-rod goes to read some more exciting info about mod_rewrite ** | |
| [00:31:00] | slyboots: | Now for the audio.. Hmm. |
| [00:31:00] | ** slyboots fetches a stick ** | |
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| [00:33:00] | slyboots_: | Weird thing is, even if I plug the headphones into the back of the TV card, I still get no audio |
| [00:33:00] | j-rod: | oh, duh, okay, chain is for RewriteRule, just put another Cond, and they default to AND |
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| [00:37:00] | Shibz: | does anyone know how to get the PVR 500 tuner to work on knoppmyth R5A15? |
| [00:37:00] | Shibz: | I found a guide for R5A12, but I can't get it to work with R5A15 |
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| [00:38:00] | xris: | Shibz: you have to compile your own driver |
| [00:38:00] | maddhaggis: | Hello all |
| [00:38:00] | Shibz: | I compiled the newest ivtv driver |
| [00:39:00] | Shibz: | but it still won't work |
| [00:39:00] | xris: | Shibz: doesn't work how? |
| [00:39:00] | xris: | crashes? |
| [00:39:00] | xris: | does "cat /dev/video0 > foo.mpg" work? |
| [00:40:00] | slyboots_: | This lack of sound is disturbing |
| [00:41:00] | kormoc: | it's lord slyvader! run! run! |
| [00:41:00] | slyboots_: | ? |
| [00:41:00] | slyboots_: | I dont get it |
| [00:41:00] | kormoc: | in starwars, vader says, I find your lack of faith distrubing |
| [00:41:00] | j-rod: | heh, I do |
| [00:41:00] | kormoc: | you reminded me of it :P |
| [00:41:00] | slyboots_: | Ahh, I see |
| [00:41:00] | Shibz: | what should cat /dev/video0 > foo.mpg do? |
| [00:41:00] | ** slyboots_ uses Force choke on kormoc ** | |
| [00:42:00] | ** kormoc dies. ** | |
| [00:42:00] | ** slyboots_ looks unbelivably evil ** | |
| [00:42:00] | Beirdo: | and kormoc proves again... geeks are strange :) |
| [00:42:00] | slyboots_: | lol |
| [00:42:00] | j-rod: | Shibz, you likely need to yank the tveeprom, tuner and msp3400 modules from the main kernel tree so the ivtv-provided ones get used instead |
| [00:42:00] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [00:42:00] | Beirdo: | it's so fun being a geek |
| [00:42:00] | kormoc: | indeed |
| [00:44:00] | Shibz: | I did move the msp3400 and tuner modules |
| [00:44:00] | jemarcks: | Anybody have a working mythtvburn or some such script? |
| [00:44:00] | Shibz: | but not the tveeprom |
| [00:44:00] | j-rod: | Syth is mostly very nice looking... |
| [00:44:00] | Shibz: | all I get is static when I try to watch tv |
| [00:44:00] | j-rod: | get tveeprom out of there too, if you have an older one running, it probably didn't pick up and set the right tuner |
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| [00:47:00] | maddhaggis: | Got kind of a wierd one here for you guys; I have a HD3000 running DVB on FC3 which finaly works...yay...All my local HD channels come in great with the exception of the 3 digital channels from PBS 15_2, 15_3, and 15_4. the audio comes in all chirpy. All other HD and Digital channels are fine though....Any thoughts? |
| [00:48:00] | slyboots_: | Well, Im tired |
| [00:48:00] | Shibz: | http://mleh.net/shibz/output.txt |
| [00:48:00] | jemarcks: | hey, mchou |
| [00:48:00] | slyboots_: | I think I'll call it a day, Im pretty fucking shattered to be honest |
| [00:48:00] | Shibz: | that is what I get when I do dmesg|grep ivtv |
| [00:48:00] | slyboots_: | thans again for all your help again :D |
| [00:48:00] | slyboots_: | Cheers all |
| [00:50:00] | slyboots_: | Later |
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| [00:50:00] | Shibz: | argh I am getting really annoyed at this |
| [00:50:00] | Shibz: | I have been getting nothing but problems |
| [00:54:00] | Shibz: | can someone please help me get my pvr500 to work? |
| [00:54:00] | Esotericisms: | ok i am install knoppmyth .. enoug of this bullsh*t |
| [00:55:00] | TheAsp: | boo |
| [00:55:00] | maddhaggis: | FC3 works great :) |
| [00:55:00] | Shibz: | well, I am going to downgrade to R5A12 because I found a guide for it |
| [00:55:00] | Agrajag-: | as does debian |
| [00:55:00] | ZMorek: | in my experience knoppmyth is harder to deal with than fc3 |
| [00:56:00] | Shibz: | hmmm, fc3? |
| [00:56:00] | Shibz: | i will have to try that |
| [00:56:00] | ZMorek: | that might just be my hardware tho |
| [00:56:00] | maddhaggis: | I'll second that |
| [00:56:00] | Esotericisms: | Shibz, is there much difference between 15 and 12? |
| [00:56:00] | Shibz: | I have no idea |
| [00:56:00] | ZMorek: | I used the wilsonet guide... the only problems I've come across were linux-newbie related |
| [00:56:00] | Shibz: | I just found a guide telling me exactly how to set up my tuner on 12, but not on 15 |
| [01:00:00] | mchou: | maddhaggis: where do you live? |
| [01:03:00] | Esotericisms: | what card do you have? |
| [01:05:00] | Shibz: | pvr 500 |
| [01:05:00] | maddhaggis: | mchou: Virginia |
| [01:05:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, howdy |
| [01:05:00] | maddhaggis: | why? |
| [01:06:00] | mchou: | maddhaggis: I bet it's acually a problem with the PBS station streams, not the HW itself. |
| [01:06:00] | mchou: | hi jemarcks |
| [01:06:00] | j-rod: | Shibz, mleh.net: cannot locate server |
| [01:06:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, do you have a working process to burn .nuv files to DVD? |
| [01:07:00] | mchou: | maddhaggis: do you have a HDTV set thant you can verify this independently? |
| [01:07:00] | j-rod: | Host mleh.net not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) |
| [01:07:00] | maddhaggis: | hmmm. but my hd sat reciever pulls them in just fine. |
| [01:07:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: nope. |
| [01:07:00] | Shibz: | hmmm, try http://216.66.12.100/~shibz/shibz/output.txt |
| [01:07:00] | mchou: | maddhaggis: those are differnt feeds. |
| [01:07:00] | mchou: | different* |
| [01:07:00] | jemarcks: | mchou, same here... im trying to get the tools together. |
| [01:08:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: I've never archived anything on TV to DVD. |
| [01:08:00] | j-rod: | Shibz, you're not using the ivtv-provided tuner module, and I see no tveeprom loading |
| [01:08:00] | maddhaggis: | nope my sat reciever has a built in OFF Air HD tuner. |
| [01:08:00] | mchou: | jemarcks: I just store everything on HDD. |
| [01:08:00] | j-rod: | Shibz, though I do see it picking out the right tuner type |
| [01:09:00] | maddhaggis: | I don't use the sat part... I don't even own a dish. |
| [01:09:00] | j-rod: | but with the v4l tuner module you're loading, its incorrectly picking up the radio tuner at 0060 as the tv tuner, which is why you get static |
| [01:09:00] | Shibz: | aah |
| [01:09:00] | j-rod: | add an 'options tuner add=0x61' to your module params to fix that |
| [01:10:00] | j-rod: | er, 'options tuner addr=0x61' |
| [01:10:00] | mchou: | maddhaggis: hmm, then that's a mystery..... |
| [01:10:00] | j-rod: | I've got both a D292 and D492 PVR-500 working just fine |
| [01:10:00] | mchou: | j-rod: what does that option do? |
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| [01:11:00] | maddhaggis: | mchou: do you think I could have a PIDS conflict? |
| [01:11:00] | mchou: | PIDS?? what's that? |
| [01:12:00] | DarkBeer_: | so fc3 over knoppmyth? I haven't been able to get my pvr350 running reliably in knopp. any reason to believe it will be better in fc3? keep running into issues where livetv locks up |
| [01:12:00] | j-rod: | tells the tuner module that the tuners are at i2c address 0x61 |
| [01:12:00] | j-rod: | the radio tuner on the 500 is on the first i2c bus at 0x60, and gets falsely grabbed as the tv tuner |
| [01:13:00] | maddhaggis: | also channel 15_2 seems to come in slower.... like a 45 record played at 33 speed. |
| [01:13:00] | maddhaggis: | mchou: check out http://www.xmission.com/~pchdtv/forum/viewtopic.php?t=688 |
| [01:13:00] | mchou: | j-rod: hmm, interesting. what's the i2c address for the m179 tuner? |
| [01:14:00] | j-rod: | I don't recall, its either 0x61 or 0x60... |
| [01:14:00] | j-rod: | btw, I tried putting my m179 in my dev box w/a 500, and the thing won't even boot... :( |
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| [01:14:00] | j-rod: | So I have to juggle some hardware again to even be able to play with it. |
| [01:14:00] | j-rod: | :S |
| [01:15:00] | mchou: | j-rod: heh :) |
| [01:15:00] | j-rod: | not even POST |
| [01:15:00] | mchou: | hmm??? |
| [01:15:00] | j-rod: | (dev box is an older dual PIII board) |
| [01:15:00] | mchou: | nah, sounds like an unseated card...... |
| [01:16:00] | j-rod: | oh, it was seated |
| [01:16:00] | Shibz: | k, i added that addr thing, hope it works |
| [01:16:00] | j-rod: | I moved it around from slot to slot, pulled cards one by one to see if it just didn't like the other cards with it, etc |
| [01:16:00] | maddhaggis: | j-rod: I had the same problem. |
| [01:16:00] | j-rod: | the notches on the m179 are different than the 500, I forget what the hell they all mean |
| [01:17:00] | mchou: | weird. I put my m170 w/150, it boots ok. |
| [01:17:00] | j-rod: | probably like a 3.3v pci card, and the board will only take 5v, or somethin' |
| [01:17:00] | maddhaggis: | j-rod: what mobo are you using? |
| [01:17:00] | j-rod: | an old Asus P2B-DS |
| [01:17:00] | maddhaggis: | I use a Asus SK8V. |
| [01:17:00] | maddhaggis: | Same issue |
| [01:18:00] | Shibz: | nope, that addr line still gives static |
| [01:18:00] | j-rod: | Shibz, updated log dump? |
| [01:18:00] | Shibz: | 1 sec |
| [01:19:00] | maddhaggis: | I called hauppague, they said it was a hardware latency problem and that I would have to wait for Asus to release a new bios to fix it. |
| [01:19:00] | mchou: | lol!! |
| [01:19:00] | maddhaggis: | They are working on it though |
| [01:19:00] | mchou: | maddhaggis: who, asus or hauppauge? |
| [01:19:00] | Shibz: | ok, its updated |
| [01:20:00] | maddhaggis: | both, jointly |
| [01:20:00] | maddhaggis: | Asus is supposed to have a fix out soon. |
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| [01:21:00] | Shibz: | http://216.66.12.100/~shibz/shibz/ivtv.txt has the |grep ivtv thing in case you don't want all the extra crap |
| [01:22:00] | maddhaggis: | If you call hauppague they can give you a RA number and will agree to do a clean swap, Your PVR500 for 2 PVR250's. |
| [01:22:00] | j-rod: | Shibz, aha, I think I see the problem |
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| [01:22:00] | j-rod: | you're still loading the in-kernel tuner module |
| [01:22:00] | mchou: | lol, that's hardly a fair trade :) |
| [01:22:00] | j-rod: | tuner 1–0061: tuner type not set |
| [01:22:00] | j-rod: | because it doesn't know about type 57 |
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| [01:23:00] | j-rod: | find /lib/modules/2.6.11.7-chw-4/ -name tuner.ko |
| [01:23:00] | j-rod: | and remove the one(s) not in /lib/modules/2.6.11.7-chw-4/ivtv/ |
| [01:25:00] | Shibz: | ok, did that, restart? |
| [01:28:00] | Shibz: | YES!!! it works |
| [01:29:00] | Shibz: | thank you! |
| [01:29:00] | Shibz: | =) |
| [01:30:00] | j-rod: | you're welcome |
| [01:31:00] | Shibz: | heh I have had the worst luck with tuners |
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| [01:32:00] | ZMorek: | I broke my mythtv box |
| [01:32:00] | Shibz: | The first 2 tuners I bought were ATI all in wonders o.O |
| [01:32:00] | j-rod: | I only know a whole lot about the PVR-500 and 150 because I had to actually make changes to the code to support mine. :) |
| [01:33:00] | Shibz: | wow I wish I had smarts like that |
| [01:33:00] | bobc: | j-rod: is the 150 a MCE version? my retail is giving me problems with lirc |
| [01:33:00] | j-rod: | me too, I faked it. :) |
| [01:33:00] | Shibz: | but I'd imagine that my level of knowledge is good for someone still in highschool |
| [01:33:00] | j-rod: | took forever to read through tveeprom.c and figure out what the hell was going on — I'm VERY rusty w/my c/c++ |
| [01:34:00] | j-rod: | bobc, yeah, my 150 is an MCE |
| [01:34:00] | j-rod: | haven't even touched a retail 150 yet |
| [01:35:00] | bobc: | as long as I don't use my 150 to actually record anything, the remote works great. |
| [01:35:00] | j-rod: | bwah |
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| [01:35:00] | mchou: | haha.... |
| [01:35:00] | bobc: | after half an hour or so of recording the remote simply stops working. nothing in the logs. |
| [01:35:00] | j-rod: | icky |
| [01:35:00] | mchou: | lircd dead? |
| [01:36:00] | bobc: | so I've taken the 150 out of the recorder list and I'm just using it for the remote |
| [01:36:00] | bobc: | no, lircd is still there. |
| [01:36:00] | Shibz: | now I only have 2 more problems with my comp |
| [01:36:00] | mchou: | bobc: oh, you are saying the card stop recording. |
| [01:36:00] | Shibz: | I can't get lirc working with my MCE remote |
| [01:36:00] | mchou: | bobc: hmm? |
| [01:36:00] | bobc: | no, the recording works great, the remote simply stops responding |
| [01:37:00] | Shibz: | and my second problem is I can't fit my fingers behind my dvd-rw drive to plug it in =/ |
| [01:37:00] | bobc: | if I rmmod lirc_i2c and modprobe it again, the lirc_i2c shows in lsmod, but nothing appears in /var/log/messages |
| [01:37:00] | j-rod: | heh, can't help you on #2 |
| [01:37:00] | j-rod: | for #1, how new is your mce remote? |
| [01:37:00] | Shibz: | got it in december |
| [01:38:00] | j-rod: | hm |
| [01:38:00] | bobc: | I actually went with the retail 150 instead of the MCE remote because I had heard how much trouble the new ones were |
| [01:38:00] | j-rod: | I know many of the latest versions don't work with lirc 0.7.0's mceusb implementation, only the older ones do |
| [01:38:00] | Shibz: | =( |
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| [01:38:00] | j-rod: | however, someone sent me this link recently: |
| [01:38:00] | mchou: | bobc: what tuner type is on your 150? |
| [01:38:00] | Shibz: | heh i have had bad luck with remotes too, my first remote was ATI RWII |
| [01:38:00] | j-rod: | http://blatter.com/mceusb/ |
| [01:38:00] | bobc: | I have to cold boot the computer to get lirc_i2c to insert properly after that, simply rebooting won't help |
| [01:39:00] | bobc: | 50 |
| [01:39:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | hi – ive got extra channels but cant delete them (if i do, myth says "no data from card in 1 second" over and over when i try to watch tv) |
| [01:39:00] | bobc: | I posted on the ivtv list and two other people also have the same problem |
| [01:39:00] | ** j-rod needs to acquire a retail 150 one of these days... ** | |
| [01:40:00] | bobc: | mchou, why did you ask about tuner type? |
| [01:40:00] | mchou: | bobc: just wondering. Taking a survey..... |
| [01:40:00] | mchou: | there seems to be two tuners for 150 rtl so far. |
| [01:40:00] | bobc: | Shibz, the new MCE remotes are not supported with stable LIRC, you'll need to patch work i believe |
| [01:41:00] | bobc: | sorry, patch LIRC |
| [01:41:00] | mchou: | crappy tuner 50, and a slightly better tuner 37, iirc. |
| [01:41:00] | bobc: | I've seen mention of a patch, but don't know off hand |
| [01:41:00] | j-rod: | bobc, that may be the stuff at the link I pasted in here a second ago. :) |
| [01:42:00] | bobc: | mchou, figures I'd have the crappy one. the picture looked decent and comparable to my 250 |
| [01:42:00] | bobc: | j-rod: damn! I can't carry on two conversations at once |
| [01:42:00] | bobc: | my wife doesn't think I can effectively carry on one of course |
| [01:43:00] | j-rod: | heh |
| [01:45:00] | mchou: | tuner 50 is made by some no name company in china.....(merger betw. Thomson and TCN). Tuner 39 is made by LG. |
| [01:46:00] | mchou: | TCL* |
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| [01:47:00] | bobc: | well, considering I'm not using the tuner at ALL due to the lirc problem, I'm not too worried about the tuner type at the moment |
| [01:47:00] | mchou: | heh. |
| [01:47:00] | bobc: | I can't imagine the tuner having anything directly to do with lirc_i2c |
| [01:48:00] | bobc: | although I would think that it would have to be something associated with ivtv |
| [01:48:00] | mchou: | no, but it does have to do with i2c :) |
| [01:49:00] | bobc: | what the heck IS i2c any way? |
| [01:49:00] | mchou: | it's a pll bus for control and management. |
| [01:49:00] | bobc: | pll = phase lock loop? |
| [01:50:00] | mchou: | yup. |
| [01:50:00] | mchou: | bobc: http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/markets/mms/protocols/i2c/ |
| [01:50:00] | bobc: | that was one of those thinkgs I learned in EE about 16 yrs ago and never thought of again |
| [01:51:00] | mchou: | lol. |
| [01:51:00] | mchou: | pll has many useful applications, like ntp :) |
| [01:52:00] | Beirdo: | ntp isn't true PLL though :) |
| [01:52:00] | mchou: | true, but similar concept :) |
| [01:52:00] | Beirdo: | and I2C isn't really a "PLL" bus any more |
| [01:52:00] | Beirdo: | that may be what Philips designed it for, but hardly what it is now |
| [01:53:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | argh – ive got extra channels but cant delete them (if i do, myth says "no data from card in 1 second" over and over when i try to watch tv) – any idea's anybody? |
| [01:54:00] | maddhaggis: | Super_Cat_Frog: What tuner are you using? |
| [01:55:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | erm |
| [01:55:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | DVB-T bt878 |
| [01:55:00] | ** j-rod winces at the unread count in his mythtv-users mailing list folder ** | |
| [01:57:00] | ZMorek: | that bad? |
| [01:57:00] | bobc: | what wouldn't get reset from a warm reboot that will in a cold boot that could be the issue with my lirc_i2c? |
| [01:58:00] | mchou: | bobc: the 150 card :) |
| [01:59:00] | bobc: | do you think changing to a differnt firmware might make a difference? |
| [01:59:00] | mchou: | could. |
| [01:59:00] | bobc: | I figured it was the 150, but know idea WHAT on it that it could be |
| [01:59:00] | bobc: | might as well try a different firmware, what else do I have to do? |
| [02:00:00] | mchou: | the connexant chip has remote functionality controlled by fw..... |
| [02:00:00] | bobc: | besides finish the basement and everything else my wife left on the honey do list |
| [02:00:00] | Shibz: | I want to completly delete lirc from my system, how would I do it? |
| [02:00:00] | Shibz: | would I just do something like rm -f *lirc* |
| [02:01:00] | mchou: | if the bus gets hosed (either by ivtv or fw) then that would explain remote dying. |
| [02:02:00] | bobc: | Shibz: go to http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.2 |
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| [02:03:00] | bobc: | the docs have a section on lirc for the 250 in which he takes you through removing all lirc related files |
| [02:04:00] | j-rod: | ZMorek, yeah, been neglecting it for irc and work on the stable branch for at least two weeks, there are a few thousand messages backed up now... |
| [02:05:00] | j-rod: | and now, its time for me to hit the road for my daily punishment |
| [02:05:00] | j-rod: | later all |
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| [02:08:00] | ZMorek: | didn't know he was a runner.... |
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| [02:23:00] | Shibz: | hey, I did that lirc patch, but it still doesn't work |
| [02:23:00] | Shibz: | root@mythtv:~/lirc-0.7.0# lircd -n & |
| [02:23:00] | Shibz: | lircd 0.7.0: lircd(mceusb) ready |
| [02:23:00] | Shibz: | [1] 8781 |
| [02:23:00] | Shibz: | root@mythtv:~/lirc-0.7.0# irw |
| [02:23:00] | Shibz: | lircd 0.7.0: accepted new client on /dev/lircd |
| [02:23:00] | Shibz: | lircd 0.7.0: could not open /dev/lirc |
| [02:23:00] | Shibz: | lircd 0.7.0: default_init(): No such device |
| [02:23:00] | Shibz: | lircd 0.7.0: caught signal |
| [02:23:00] | Shibz: | [1]+ Terminated lircd -n |
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| [02:26:00] | bobc: | I recompiled ivtv and the dang system locked up tight when I did the modprobe ivtv |
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| [02:32:00] | egsavage: | Any ATI video card users here? I'd be interested on what drivers you're using for TV out for use with MythTV... |
| [02:34:00] | egsavage: | I did some reading and it sounds like GATOS with TV out support will be part of XOrg 6.9, but I don't want to wait for that |
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| [03:06:00] | Beirdo: | egsavage: if it's Radeon >= 8500, use the ATI binary drivers |
| [03:08:00] | egsavage: | R350/9800 Pro |
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| [03:09:00] | egsavage: | yes, i'm leaning that route now... Trying to get the livna ati-fglrx going |
| [03:09:00] | egsavage: | but it seems they don't have a ready made version for the kernel i'm running |
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| [03:14:00] | Beirdo: | get it from ATI |
| [03:14:00] | Beirdo: | you have to recompile part of it |
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| [03:15:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | there is a video to test for hdtv quality where is it? |
| [03:15:00] | egsavage: | yes, it seems that way... I'm reading this page now: http://rpm.livna.org/kernel-modules.html |
| [03:17:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | anyone know? |
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| [03:18:00] | Beirdo: | ask google |
| [03:19:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | tried cant find it |
| [03:19:00] | Beirdo: | ah well |
| [03:22:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | do you know about it? |
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| [03:24:00] | galrog: | hey. ... i bought this viewsonic N4 Video processor to output to my TV ... does that mean that i wouldnt need a hardware decoder on whatever card i buy for my box ? |
| [03:25:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | there is a video to test for hdtv quality where is it? |
| [03:26:00] | Beirdo: | you already asked |
| [03:26:00] | Beirdo: | nobody knows, move along... |
| [03:26:00] | Beirdo: | try again in a few hours or something maybe, but not every few minutes, please |
| [03:27:00] | galrog: | Beirdo: not me right ? |
| [03:28:00] | Beirdo: | sorry, that was to IMTheNachoMan |
| [03:28:00] | Beirdo: | galrog: I dunno for that device, I've often considered trying one |
| [03:28:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | sorry thx |
| [03:28:00] | Beirdo: | don't really understand how it works though, and how that would tie into myth |
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| [03:30:00] | galrog: | Beirdo: well i figure the hardware decodes and in essence "tricks" the computer into thinking im using a monitor which is really my TV |
| [03:30:00] | Tommck: | does anyone know if the DVB drivers for pcHDTV do better with lower signals? or just have clearer recordings than the pcHTDV 1.6 drivers? |
| [03:30:00] | Shibz: | yay I got my remote kinda working |
| [03:30:00] | Beirdo: | could be, galrog |
| [03:31:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | to watch hdtv you need an hdtv antenna right? |
| [03:31:00] | Agrajag-: | no |
| [03:31:00] | Tommck: | IMTheNachoMan – yeah |
| [03:31:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | it works with antenna? |
| [03:31:00] | Tommck: | IMTheNachoMan – yes |
| [03:31:00] | Agrajag-: | eh? |
| [03:31:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | ok is this written down samewhere for proof i want to show my dad and cant find anything online |
| [03:31:00] | galrog: | Bierdo: is it necessary to go with an encoder/decoder to watch smooth live TV or not necessarily? |
| [03:31:00] | Agrajag-: | you don't need an hd antenna |
| [03:32:00] | Shibz: | Ok, I got my remote working so that it shows stuff in irw, but it still doesn't do anything in myth tv |
| [03:32:00] | Agrajag-: | IMTheNachoMan: someone linked to example hd vids on the mailing list recently, search that |
| [03:32:00] | bobc: | Shibz: you have to configure lircrc |
| [03:33:00] | Shibz: | how? |
| [03:33:00] | Shibz: | http://blatter.com/mceusb/lircrc_MYTH_EXAMPLE |
| [03:33:00] | bobc: | did you get a copy from wilsonnet? |
| [03:33:00] | Shibz: | Would I use that? |
| [03:33:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | Agrajag- i would but im kinda short on time dont know wehre the mailling lits are or how to find them if someone can send me a link id appreciate that otherwise il have to pick it up next month |
| [03:34:00] | Agrajag-: | mythtv.org |
| [03:34:00] | bobc: | well, the formatting on that sucks, but it work |
| [03:34:00] | Agrajag-: | click mailing lists.. searchable archives |
| [03:34:00] | Agrajag-: | do some work yourself you lazy arse |
| [03:34:00] | bobc: | sorry, it might work, I don't kow |
| [03:34:00] | bobc: | kow->know |
| [03:34:00] | Shibz: | how do I set it up with that file though? |
| [03:35:00] | Agrajag-: | and there's dvb antenna info here somewhere (specific to .au, but the principles still apply) dba.org.au |
| [03:36:00] | Shibz: | where do I put that lircrc file? |
| [03:36:00] | bobc: | in .mythtv |
| [03:36:00] | Shibz: | aah |
| [03:37:00] | bobc: | ~/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [03:38:00] | Shibz: | hmmm, it doesn't work =/ |
| [03:38:00] | Shibz: | err, nm |
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| [03:38:00] | Shibz: | it kinda works |
| [03:38:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | anyone here have a test hdtv clip? |
| [03:39:00] | Agrajag-: | IMTheNachoMan you retard if you had done what i said you'd have found one by now |
| [03:39:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | im lookin still cant find one |
| [03:39:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | people saying they use em but nobody say where i can get one |
| [03:39:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | the only one i found the link is down |
| [03:39:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | on pchdtv.org |
| [03:39:00] | Tommck: | anyone know why I would get errors recording HDTV on a pcHDTV 3000 card with a signal in the mid 80s? |
| [03:40:00] | bobc: | everyone I've seen is nicely formatted. hit enter before every "begin", "prog, "button, "repeat", "config" and "end" |
| [03:40:00] | bobc: | then put extra lines between each end and begin – it will be much more readable and easy to tweak |
| [03:41:00] | dhofstra: | Tommck: I have seen people in mid 80s get bad reception due to 'multipath' on dtvsignal instead of being in 80s 90s with $$$$$$$$$$ they have ############ |
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| [03:41:00] | bobc: | you can change what button does what function in lircrc but just changing the config to be whatever keypress you want |
| [03:42:00] | Tommck: | dhofstra – the character changes? $ or # ? |
| [03:42:00] | Tommck: | I have $$$ |
| [03:42:00] | bobc: | Shibz, where did you get your MCE remote? |
| [03:42:00] | Shibz: | newegg |
| [03:42:00] | dhofstra: | in dtvsignal, on mine it is in the 80s and the bar is represented by $$$$$$$$$$ but I have seen people here where the bar is represented by all ######## |
| [03:42:00] | Shibz: | and it seems that the only button that works is the "ok" button |
| [03:42:00] | Tommck: | mine's all $$$ |
| [03:43:00] | Shibz: | im stuck on Spike TV |
| [03:43:00] | dhofstra: | hrm, oh well, it was a thought |
| [03:43:00] | Tommck: | aroudn 86... but I get craploads of errors recording |
| [03:43:00] | Shibz: | oh, the play, pause, record buttons work too |
| [03:43:00] | bobc: | If it's working for you, I may just go ahead and get one rather than messing with the PVR150 remote |
| [03:43:00] | Shibz: | but not the numbers |
| [03:43:00] | Tommck: | dhofstra – thanks |
| [03:43:00] | dhofstra: | I've used mine for 7 or 8 months and only have problems on FOX cuz the signal here is crappy.. sorry i couldnt actually help |
| [03:44:00] | bobc: | do the numbers show up in irw? |
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| [03:44:00] | Tommck: | dhofstra – interesting.. this is FOX too |
| [03:44:00] | Shibz: | yes |
| [03:44:00] | dhofstra: | Tommck: I actually cant even get fox on the same antenna with my set top box.. whereas the pchdtv actually tries to pull it in, but not so well |
| [03:45:00] | bobc: | do they show as 9 or Nine? |
| [03:45:00] | dhofstra: | My FOX affiliate is gracious enough to broadcast a whopping 10.5 Watts (yes there is no kilo there for a reason) |
| [03:45:00] | Shibz: | Nine |
| [03:45:00] | Tommck: | dhofstra – nice :) |
| [03:45:00] | Shibz: | maby syntax of that rc file is messed up |
| [03:46:00] | dhofstra: | if I could find the damn fcc website where I discovered that, we could look up your fox affilliate |
| [03:46:00] | bobc: | if the other buttons work, then the numbers should |
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| [03:46:00] | bobc: | the numbers are about the easiest ones to get to work |
| [03:48:00] | Shibz: | 000000037ff07bfc 01 Three mceusb |
| [03:48:00] | Shibz: | thats what i get when I press 3 |
| [03:49:00] | bobc: | then Three is what you should put into lircrc and that's what's there |
| [03:49:00] | bobc: | if it's showing up in irw – then it should translate to whatever key you tell it to in lircrc – 3 |
| [03:50:00] | Shibz: | ya |
| [03:50:00] | Shibz: | could it be loading the wrong rc file somehow? |
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| [03:52:00] | Shibz: | aah well, i give up. Im goin to bed i'll fix it later |
| [03:52:00] | Shibz: | thanks for your help anyways |
| [03:52:00] | bobc: | np good luck |
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| [03:54:00] | dhofstra: | tommck, actually it was 10.5 kilowatt , but that is still miserably low power.. what is your stations callsign? |
| [03:54:00] | Tommck: | dhofstra – WBFF |
| [03:57:00] | dhofstra: | Tommck looks like they are under special permit also and only broadcasting 35kw ... I think the FCC's minimum is upper 600kw, so that may be why..you may be in the same fox boat as me ... http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?call=WBFF |
| [03:57:00] | Tommck: | but my signal strength shows as 86... I'm only 12 miles from the tower |
| [03:58:00] | Tommck: | dhofstra – what driver are you using? |
| [03:58:00] | dhofstra: | just my little old theory that a weak output might be more subject to multipath (but then I am a regular joe who knows nothing really) |
| [03:58:00] | Tommck: | dhofstra – ah.. interesting idea though |
| [03:59:00] | dhofstra: | pchdtv 1.5 |
| [03:59:00] | Tommck: | I'm on 1.6 |
| [03:59:00] | Tommck: | there is a 2.0, right? and the DVB drivers |
| [03:59:00] | dhofstra: | yeah, I am trying to install 2.0 on a 2nd test harddrive this weekend |
| [04:00:00] | dhofstra: | the last time I looked it happened to be 1.5 and everything has worked so well, I just havent tried any newer ones. |
| [04:00:00] | Tommck: | right.... I was thinking about either getting a new antenna or switching drivers |
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| [04:01:00] | Tommck: | my local channel 2 sucks ass signal wise |
| [04:01:00] | dhofstra: | I will be trying the 2.0 some more this weekend, but my first attempt was a miserable failure.. I think I need ivtv 0.3 to work properly with 2.0pchdtv |
| [04:01:00] | dhofstra: | and I like ivtv 0.2x |
| [04:02:00] | Tommck: | dhofstra – yeah, that's what I heard... I'm using ivtv 0.3.2z, since I'm using a PVR-500 though |
| [04:02:00] | dhofstra: | Tommck: It would be interesting if you hooked up a HD stand alone box and checked out this fox station just to see |
| [04:02:00] | Tommck: | check it out without ivtv? |
| [04:03:00] | dhofstra: | no, I mean like a satellite box or cable box.. just to see how the antenna picks up the signal ... old school .... |
| [04:03:00] | dhofstra: | i gotta go,, sorry .. goodluck |
| [04:03:00] | Tommck: | oh... I run the antenna into my TV too |
| [04:03:00] | Tommck: | I have a tuner |
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| [04:04:00] | Tommck: | cya later dhofstra |
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| [04:15:00] | jemarcks: | grrrr... why isnt my mythbox recording the correct channel after a power outage here caused a reboot? |
| [04:16:00] | jemarcks: | oh, and livetv freezes. didnt used to yesterday. |
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| [04:18:00] | IMTheNachoMan: | mythtv doesnt work with myhd right? |
| [04:18:00] | jemarcks: | duno |
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| [05:54:00] | banyan: | anybody using mythtv on ubuntu? |
| [06:03:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah |
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| [06:03:00] | banyan: | any major issues / hassles? |
| [06:03:00] | Agrajag-: | i dont know i don't use it myself, i was just saying people do, as that is what you asked |
| [06:04:00] | Agrajag-: | but no.. im pretty sure, as with debian, it's pretty piss easy |
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| [06:04:00] | topping: | 'evening |
| [06:07:00] | riksta: | lo |
| [06:07:00] | riksta: | morning |
| [06:07:00] | topping: | yo yo |
| [06:07:00] | topping: | did you sleep? |
| [06:07:00] | riksta: | no |
| [06:07:00] | riksta: | exam in 3 hours |
| [06:07:00] | riksta: | cramming |
| [06:07:00] | riksta: | you ok? |
| [06:07:00] | topping: | wow, good luck |
| [06:08:00] | riksta: | i need it |
| [06:08:00] | topping: | yah! |
| [06:08:00] | riksta: | its communication networks |
| [06:08:00] | riksta: | and theres a LOT of shit to learn |
| [06:08:00] | topping: | three different machines ripping all my plastic |
| [06:08:00] | riksta: | ripping your plastic? |
| [06:08:00] | topping: | cd/dvd |
| [06:08:00] | riksta: | *lost* |
| [06:09:00] | topping: | never mind |
| [06:09:00] | topping: | :-) |
| [06:09:00] | riksta: | bloody yanks :P |
| [06:09:00] | topping: | heh |
| [06:10:00] | riksta: | i have no idea what "Manchester encoding" is |
| [06:10:00] | riksta: | and i'm from manchester! |
| [06:10:00] | topping: | haha |
| [06:10:00] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [06:10:00] | riksta: | it's some shit i need to learn quick, anyway |
| [06:10:00] | riksta: | hi Beirdo |
| [06:10:00] | Beirdo: | google is your friend |
| [06:10:00] | Beirdo: | heya |
| [06:11:00] | riksta: | i know |
| [06:11:00] | riksta: | but there's fuck all that's useful |
| [06:11:00] | Beirdo: | manchester encoding is pretty simple really |
| [06:11:00] | riksta: | and i'm stressed and tired :) |
| [06:11:00] | Beirdo: | every bit transitions in the middle |
| [06:11:00] | riksta: | oh you know about it? |
| [06:11:00] | riksta: | ahh rite |
| [06:11:00] | riksta: | that makes sense to me now then |
| [06:11:00] | riksta: | so violations are at the end of the bit time it stays the same |
| [06:11:00] | riksta: | ? |
| [06:12:00] | Beirdo: | what I don't recall is whether the value of the bit is before or after the transition |
| [06:12:00] | Beirdo: | correct |
| [06:12:00] | Beirdo: | if there is no transition for a full bit time, it's a violation |
| [06:12:00] | riksta: | i think it's in the middle you know |
| [06:12:00] | riksta: | ah right |
| [06:12:00] | Beirdo: | the bit value has to be before or after the transition :) |
| [06:12:00] | riksta: | yeah its actually DIFFERENTIAL manc. enc. it wants |
| [06:12:00] | Beirdo: | but I don't remember which |
| [06:13:00] | riksta: | the question is pretty crazy |
| [06:13:00] | riksta: | it says: |
| [06:13:00] | Beirdo: | differential manchester... don't recall the distinction anymore |
| [06:14:00] | riksta: | 802.5 token ring uses differential manc. enc. The start of frame delimiter is JK0JK000 and the end delimiter is JK1JK1IE where I and E can be 0 or 1. J and K are Manc encoding violations. J retains the same polarity as the end of the preceding signal right across the bit time. K reverses polarity with respect to the preceding signal and then maintains its polarity right across the bit time |
| [06:14:00] | riksta: | *sighs* |
| [06:15:00] | ** topping only got as deep as framing ** | |
| [06:15:00] | riksta: | i have the answer written down here anyway |
| [06:15:00] | Beirdo: | gah, token ring :) |
| [06:15:00] | riksta: | am just trying to figure out how the hell i actually did it |
| [06:15:00] | Beirdo: | been a while |
| [06:15:00] | riksta: | i tihnk it's pretty simple |
| [06:16:00] | riksta: | basically wherever the isnt a 0 |
| [06:16:00] | riksta: | the letter extends the whole bit time |
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| [06:16:00] | riksta: | where there is an 0 it changes polatiry in the middle |
| [06:16:00] | Beirdo: | or a 1 |
| [06:16:00] | riksta: | looks as simple as that |
| [06:16:00] | riksta: | well yeah |
| [06:16:00] | riksta: | swaps |
| [06:16:00] | riksta: | i only had to sketch the start fram delimiter |
| [06:16:00] | riksta: | there's no 1's |
| [06:17:00] | Beirdo: | true |
| [06:17:00] | Beirdo: | there are in the end delimiter though |
| [06:17:00] | riksta: | god damn this complicated crap though |
| [06:17:00] | riksta: | it's a joke to have to remember all this crap |
| [06:17:00] | riksta: | i have another 10 different chapters of stuff to remember, along with this encoding shit and bit stuffing |
| [06:18:00] | riksta: | luckily bit stuffing is dead simple |
| [06:18:00] | Beirdo: | at one point I wrote VHDL to encode and decode manchester encoding |
| [06:18:00] | riksta: | VHDL? |
| [06:18:00] | Beirdo: | for making FPGA code |
| [06:18:00] | riksta: | the algorithm to enc/decode the encoding is pretty simple tbh |
| [06:18:00] | Beirdo: | hah |
| [06:18:00] | riksta: | i was looking at it on the net |
| [06:19:00] | Beirdo: | if you have a known good clock |
| [06:19:00] | Beirdo: | without that, decoding is a supreme bitch |
| [06:19:00] | riksta: | um ya good point |
| [06:19:00] | Beirdo: | with the clock it's an xor |
| [06:19:00] | Beirdo: | or an xnor |
| [06:19:00] | riksta: | well, at least stuff's making sense to me now |
| [06:20:00] | Beirdo: | forget which |
| [06:20:00] | riksta: | i have just been over the shannon and nyquist formulae, and done some crazy ass maths |
| [06:20:00] | Beirdo: | data xor clock |
| [06:20:00] | riksta: | i hope i got it all stored good |
| [06:20:00] | Beirdo: | or data xnor clock |
| [06:20:00] | Beirdo: | one or the other |
| [06:20:00] | riksta: | i hate rearranging formulas |
| [06:20:00] | Beirdo: | good luck dude. |
| [06:20:00] | riksta: | xor i think |
| [06:20:00] | topping: | just be sure to eat the same stimulants during the test as you are taking now... helps with memory for some reason |
| [06:21:00] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [06:21:00] | Beirdo: | or depressants |
| [06:21:00] | riksta: | im pepped up to fuck on caffine |
| [06:21:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [06:21:00] | topping: | exacary |
| [06:21:00] | riksta: | i gotta buy some pro-plus later |
| [06:21:00] | riksta: | before i go in |
| [06:21:00] | Beirdo: | bring some red bull or whatever in with you |
| [06:21:00] | riksta: | ya |
| [06:21:00] | topping: | chappelle show last night: "red balls" |
| [06:21:00] | riksta: | ew red bull at 8am |
| [06:21:00] | topping: | haha |
| [06:21:00] | riksta: | that's gonna be mingin |
| [06:21:00] | Beirdo: | I did one exam hopped up on caffeine |
| [06:22:00] | Beirdo: | brought in 6 Jolts |
| [06:22:00] | riksta: | and.... |
| [06:22:00] | riksta: | we dont get jokt cola |
| [06:22:00] | Beirdo: | drank em all during the exam |
| [06:22:00] | riksta: | jolt |
| [06:22:00] | Beirdo: | and I was already wired before that |
| [06:22:00] | Beirdo: | that was a "studied all night, did exam at 10am" exam |
| [06:22:00] | riksta: | yeah mines at 9:30 |
| [06:22:00] | riksta: | for 3 hours |
| [06:23:00] | riksta: | im gonna be fuckin fallin asleep |
| [06:23:00] | Beirdo: | fun |
| [06:23:00] | riksta: | and if not in the exam |
| [06:23:00] | riksta: | during the drive home |
| [06:23:00] | riksta: | : |
| [06:23:00] | riksta: | :s |
| [06:23:00] | topping: | good luck yo |
| [06:23:00] | Beirdo: | I walked out, and someone asked "what did you get on #6..." I was like "what the fuck WAS #6?!" |
| [06:24:00] | riksta: | lol |
| [06:24:00] | riksta: | have you ever done that shit where you're to answer 4 out of 6 |
| [06:25:00] | riksta: | and you fuckin answer all 6 |
| [06:25:00] | riksta: | like an idiot |
| [06:25:00] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [06:25:00] | Beirdo: | never |
| [06:25:00] | Beirdo: | I read the whole exam first |
| [06:25:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [06:25:00] | riksta: | yeah i've only ever done it once |
| [06:25:00] | riksta: | never again |
| [06:25:00] | riksta: | i remember in school |
| [06:25:00] | Beirdo: | but I know most people don't |
| [06:25:00] | riksta: | my maths teacher played a trick on us |
| [06:25:00] | riksta: | he put read the whole paper |
| [06:26:00] | riksta: | anyway question 50 or whatever was |
| [06:26:00] | riksta: | if you read this you don;t have to answer the questions, just stay quiet and pretend you are working |
| [06:26:00] | riksta: | or something like that |
| [06:26:00] | riksta: | i got to about question 30 before i realised hahaha |
| [06:26:00] | riksta: | whooopz |
| [06:27:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [06:27:00] | Beirdo: | oops |
| [06:27:00] | riksta: | ahh great, i just recompiled 0.18 with mmx flag |
| [06:27:00] | riksta: | and my usage is back to normal |
| [06:27:00] | riksta: | instead of damn 80% ish on livetv |
| [06:28:00] | topping: | haha, priorities |
| [06:28:00] | topping: | gotta love it |
| [06:28:00] | riksta: | well |
| [06:28:00] | riksta: | was pissing m eoff ;) |
| [06:28:00] | topping: | are you just cleaning up the used condoms as well? lol |
| [06:28:00] | riksta: | gentoo ebuild stripped out the mmx flag |
| [06:29:00] | Beirdo: | silly gentoo users |
| [06:29:00] | riksta: | not my fault i usually build from scratch |
| [06:29:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [06:29:00] | riksta: | Beirdo: you should say silly Cardoe |
| [06:29:00] | riksta: | :) |
| [06:30:00] | Beirdo: | nah, use CVS |
| [06:30:00] | Beirdo: | ebuilds are silly |
| [06:30:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [06:30:00] | topping: | damn, getting an error message on imdb lookup for video that is larger than the screen |
| [06:30:00] | riksta: | larger than the screen? |
| [06:30:00] | topping: | a ton of stuff with perl in it |
| [06:30:00] | riksta: | oh i see |
| [06:30:00] | topping: | overflows the screen space |
| [06:31:00] | riksta: | there was a fixup on the -dev list for that perl script last week |
| [06:31:00] | topping: | oh cool it's in the console too |
| [06:31:00] | topping: | whew |
| [06:31:00] | topping: | ah thats easy, missing perl module |
| [06:32:00] | riksta: | i think myth was using a ton of CPU because i had the blend? filter enabled without the MMX flag |
| [06:33:00] | Cardoe: | what |
| [06:33:00] | Cardoe: | riksta: no |
| [06:33:00] | Cardoe: | I didn't do that crap |
| [06:33:00] | Cardoe: | I had it out big time with the AMD64 team |
| [06:33:00] | Cardoe: | BIG TIME |
| [06:33:00] | riksta: | Cardoe: hehe ok dude i was only winding you up |
| [06:33:00] | Cardoe: | in #gentoo-dev last night |
| [06:33:00] | riksta: | i saw your commit |
| [06:33:00] | Cardoe: | I fixed the Gentoo ebuilds |
| [06:33:00] | riksta: | i know i saw it all |
| [06:33:00] | riksta: | ;) |
| [06:33:00] | Cardoe: | they even strip ALL user CFLAGS |
| [06:34:00] | riksta: | yep |
| [06:34:00] | Cardoe: | so chutt can shove the Gentoo comments somewhere |
| [06:34:00] | sunilonln: | does anyone know what the current working merehod to pull channel logos is? |
| [06:34:00] | riksta: | well, who listens to Chutt anyway? :) |
| [06:34:00] | Beirdo: | bed time |
| [06:34:00] | ** xris does ** | |
| [06:34:00] | xris: | Beirdo: so early! |
| [06:34:00] | sunilonln: | the one on j-rod's site doesn't seem to work |
| [06:34:00] | Beirdo: | so passin out on the couch |
| [06:34:00] | sunilonln: | *method |
| [06:34:00] | riksta: | xris: suckup ;) |
| [06:35:00] | xris: | riksta: never said I liked what I heard, but I do listen to him. |
| [06:35:00] | riksta: | haha true |
| [06:37:00] | xris: | Beirdo: jes brought home a HUGE wasabi plant today. |
| [06:38:00] | xris: | it made much wasabi paste |
| [06:38:00] | xris: | (with enough left over to plant) |
| [06:38:00] | riksta: | wtf? |
| [06:38:00] | riksta: | is that |
| [06:38:00] | xris: | riksta: you don't know what wasabi is? |
| [06:38:00] | riksta: | no |
| [06:38:00] | xris: | the green stuff that you eat with sushi |
| [06:38:00] | riksta: | weed? |
| [06:38:00] | riksta: | oh |
| [06:38:00] | xris: | it's a type of horseraddish |
| [06:38:00] | riksta: | i haven't got a damn clue |
| [06:38:00] | riksta: | i have never eaten sushi in my life |
| [06:38:00] | xris: | except that the stuff you get with sushi is rarely real wasabi. |
| [06:39:00] | riksta: | i know what it looks like tho |
| [06:39:00] | riksta: | like greeny brown leaves |
| [06:39:00] | xris: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasabi |
| [06:39:00] | riksta: | oh wtf haha, i have never seen that! |
| [06:39:00] | riksta: | what do you eat it with |
| [06:40:00] | xris: | tonight, we made spring rolls and mixed the wasabi into a dipping sauce. |
| [06:40:00] | xris: | usually on sushi. |
| [06:40:00] | riksta: | sounds nice |
| [06:40:00] | xris: | if you like burn-your-nose mustard-hot, it's great. |
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| [06:41:00] | riksta: | ahh it burns your nose not like chili it says |
| [06:41:00] | riksta: | i dont like that |
| [06:41:00] | riksta: | i prefer chilli hot |
| [06:41:00] | riksta: | not nose hot |
| [06:42:00] | xris: | they're both good, depending on the mood. |
| [06:42:00] | xris: | fresh wasabi tastes completely different from the fake stuff they usually try to pass off as real |
| [06:42:00] | xris: | the fresh stuff isn't nearly as hot, and has much more of its own flavor. |
| [06:43:00] | riksta: | jacko is on the news again, that dude is so screwed |
| [06:43:00] | xris: | I try not to hear about it. |
| [06:43:00] | riksta: | he's a nutcase |
| [06:45:00] | riksta: | man |
| [06:45:00] | riksta: | i really wanna sleep |
| [06:45:00] | riksta: | this is not good |
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| [07:58:00] | MiX-MaN: | anyone here mess with winmyth any? |
| [07:58:00] | Agrajag-: | yeah once a while back, pretty broken |
| [07:59:00] | MiX-MaN: | looks pretty bare... havent got it start up yet |
| [07:59:00] | Agrajag-: | it seems to always be a protocol version or two behind |
| [07:59:00] | MiX-MaN: | heh |
| [07:59:00] | Agrajag-: | so i've never actually got it going |
| [08:01:00] | RossTFarian: | MiX-Man: take a look at mythstreamtv as an option to winmyth |
| [08:02:00] | MiX-MaN: | hmm |
| [08:02:00] | MiX-MaN: | looks a bit more devel.. then winmyth :) |
| [08:02:00] | linagee: | winmyth? |
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| [08:03:00] | linagee: | mythtv 0.18 fixed my incorrect channel problems. |
| [08:03:00] | linagee: | (was using 0.17) |
| [08:03:00] | RossTFarian: | anyone here running 0.18.1 from cvs yet? I'm building now |
| [08:07:00] | adante: | mythfrontend crashed and now when i try to watch anything that uses overlay i get a blue screen – any way to fix this (restart X didn't work) |
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| [08:39:00] | ** Cardoe ponders ** | |
| [08:44:00] | furfurfur (jamesp@hermes.hisser.org) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [08:46:00] | furfurfur: | hey all. I wanted to record 2 consecutive programs on the same channel, but only one got recorded – the first one. Is this normal? or a bug? |
| [08:47:00] | furfurfur: | I guess I should point out that I have configured a global extra minute each side of my programs |
| [08:48:00] | Cardoe: | furfurfur: your bad |
| [08:48:00] | Cardoe: | ;) |
| [08:49:00] | furfurfur: | is it the extra minute that's causing a crash?? |
| [08:50:00] | furfurfur: | a clash i mean |
| [08:50:00] | Cardoe: | yeah |
| [08:50:00] | Cardoe: | cause it works for me just fine |
| [08:50:00] | Cardoe: | I always record like that |
| [08:50:00] | Cardoe: | everyday |
| [08:50:00] | Cardoe: | 3 shows in a row |
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| [08:51:00] | furfurfur: | OK i'll do some testing. I just notice sometimes that I miss the first little bit of a program |
| [08:51:00] | furfurfur: | that's why I configured the +-1min |
| [08:51:00] | Cardoe: | ah |
| [08:52:00] | furfurfur: | Perhaps I should do a feature request :) |
| [08:52:00] | furfurfur: | a little more intelligence in the clash detection, to say "am I already recording this channel?" |
| [08:52:00] | eco: | I see the xvattr fix for the blue border while playing DVDs on the TV with Mplayer (XV output). Is there a better way? |
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| [09:42:00] | topping: | what's a good way to queue a uncompressed dvd rip for transcoding? |
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| [11:35:00] | riksta: | piecea cake! |
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| [12:24:00] | kazer_: | re |
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| [14:11:00] | Emigre: | Hi there. |
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| [14:11:00] | Emigre: | What are the system requirements for any sort of reasonable performance with MythTV? |
| [14:11:00] | Emigre: | What TV cards work with MythTV, specfically with the knoppmyth project? |
| [14:12:00] | GotD0t: | any card that has linux drivers |
| [14:12:00] | GotD0t: | check the mythtv page |
| [14:12:00] | GotD0t: | it will have all the information you need |
| [14:15:00] | Emigre: | How much does a MythTV system cost? |
| [14:20:00] | Emigre: | *sigh* You know what, My TV's a piece of crap anyway... |
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| [14:21:00] | Emigre: | Saw a Tivo for the first time at my girlfriend's parent's house. And I liked it, but thought I'd never get it. Then I realized: Hey, I can get Daily Show, Keith Olbermann, 60 Minutes... and not worry about missing them. Even save them to MP4. |
| [14:22:00] | Emigre: | But the thing is that it's really pipedreaming. I had two good interviews at this point. |
| [14:22:00] | Emigre: | There just aren't any jobs in my area. |
| [14:22:00] | Emigre: | God, I'm so frustrated... |
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| [14:26:00] | adante: | that was an odd little diatribe |
| [14:28:00] | Agrajag-: | hmm yes |
| [14:35:00] | CyberKnet: | what a nice day |
| [14:58:00] | Beirdo: | you call 39F nice? |
| [15:16:00] | laga: | re |
| [15:16:00] | Beirdo: | blah! |
| [15:17:00] | laga: | coming home only to see that there's no food and that the net connection is gone sucsk ;) |
| [15:17:00] | laga: | sucks* |
| [15:17:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [15:36:00] | Nod51: | I am trying to encode recorded videos to mpeg4 and I am getting about 2–3 gigs for an hour for 480x480, is this normal? |
| [15:37:00] | Nod51: | I would like it down to ~650 MB for an hour and have them [named].avi. |
| [15:37:00] | rpete: | have you played with bitrate setting? |
| [15:37:00] | laga: | nuvexport? |
| [15:38:00] | Nod51: | my bitrate is 2000, and according to the help 2200 ~1gig/hr |
| [15:38:00] | Nod51: | at default settings I was getting 7 gig /hr |
| [15:39:00] | Nod51: | I am only using 1/2 my 2800+ CPU |
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| [15:40:00] | Nod51: | basicly I want it to re-encode my recordings with 2pass mpeg4 and name it nice so I can copy it to another computer without mythtv |
| [15:41:00] | Beirdo: | nuvexport |
| [15:43:00] | Nod51: | Thats it, thanks Beirdo and laga |
| [15:43:00] | Beirdo: | no prob |
| [15:43:00] | Nod51: | I thought that was somoenes name in this chat room :-D |
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| [15:47:00] | Nod51: | this seems like a good feature to add into MythTV, I am sure there are people who would like their shows on mpeg4 CDs |
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| [15:51:00] | Beirdo: | nuvexport externally works well enough |
| [15:57:00] | defaultro: | hi Beirdo, quick question about your nuvexport |
| [15:57:00] | defaultro: | when using nuvexport on hdtv recorded files, does it downgrade the quality? |
| [15:58:00] | laga: | nuvexport is not lossless (except for mpeg2 cutting, i guess ;)). |
| [15:58:00] | laga: | it will affect the quality, of course. with the right settings, you wont be able to see it, though ;) |
| [15:58:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [16:01:00] | defaultro: | hey laga, can you send me an example parameter for nuvexporting an nuv file? |
| [16:02:00] | laga: | defaultro: nuvexport already has stanard settings that work well for most (SDTV) people |
| [16:02:00] | laga: | standard* |
| [16:03:00] | Beirdo: | defaultro: just play with it and find settings you like |
| [16:03:00] | Beirdo: | we aren't going to spoonfeed you |
| [16:03:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [16:03:00] | defaultro: | i just finished untarring it |
| [16:04:00] | ** laga is currently compiling 0.18 – let's hope that it will be able to upgrade the database. ** | |
| [16:04:00] | defaultro: | im gonna try it with hdtv |
| [16:05:00] | defaultro: | since im not familiar with xvid, is it a nice format? |
| [16:05:00] | laga: | yep, IMHO |
| [16:06:00] | Beirdo: | no, it's a naughty format |
| [16:06:00] | Beirdo: | what kinda silly question is that? |
| [16:06:00] | Beirdo: | it likes to do pr0n |
| [16:06:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [16:06:00] | defaultro: | looks like i am missing yuvdenoise |
| [16:06:00] | laga: | Beirdo: that's what we do to it. |
| [16:08:00] | laga: | so my smart card for pay tv got delivered today, and i wasnt at home. sucks to be me. |
| [16:08:00] | laga: | how is a normal human supposed to get his stuff when they deliver it art 12:05? grr. |
| [16:09:00] | Beirdo: | by being a lazy asshole and staying home from work :) |
| [16:10:00] | laga: | hehe. |
| [16:10:00] | laga: | i could do that now since i'm old enough, but i could get into trouble ;) |
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| [17:40:00] | allgood: | hi all |
| [17:40:00] | allgood: | can somebody help me? I'm with problems on tuning my second card, it is a DVB card |
| [17:41:00] | allgood: | I can tune channels on Composite and Television inputs of my BTTV (first card) normally |
| [17:42:00] | allgood: | but when I try to tune a channel from the DVB card, the front end does notting |
| [17:42:00] | laga: | check the backend logs then |
| [17:42:00] | allgood: | this happens only on livetv... I can schedule recording on DVB card normally, and the records are made |
| [17:42:00] | allgood: | no errors on backend logs |
| [17:43:00] | laga: | check the frontend logs |
| [17:44:00] | allgood: | you mean the output of mythfrontend? |
| [17:45:00] | laga: | yep |
| [17:45:00] | allgood: | brb... will check |
| [17:50:00] | allgood: | i started it with -v all |
| [17:50:00] | allgood: | the logs are huge, for only 3 seconds of use |
| [17:50:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [17:50:00] | allgood: | any idea of a string I can search? |
| [17:51:00] | allgood: | the only thing i did was entereing livetv (bttv card is the default) and tried to change to a channel of dvb card |
| [17:51:00] | laga: | allgood: hit "y" |
| [17:52:00] | allgood: | hit and the channel I choosed? |
| [17:52:00] | laga: | dunno. i havent really played with two cards. i only got my second "card" up and running two minutes ago. |
| [17:52:00] | allgood: | your luck it worked... :-D |
| [17:53:00] | laga: | well. my first card wont work anymore. the driver doesnt get loaded. |
| [17:53:00] | allgood: | is it a dvb card? |
| [17:53:00] | laga: | ivtv ;) |
| [17:54:00] | allgood: | what is this? |
| [17:54:00] | allgood: | hdtv card? |
| [17:54:00] | laga: | the driver for the pvr x50 cards |
| [17:54:00] | laga: | SDTV hardware encoder. |
| [17:54:00] | allgood: | very good |
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| [17:55:00] | allgood: | the weird thing is that if I activate picture-in-picture, the channel from the second card displays on the frame... but I'm unable to swap them. |
| [17:56:00] | laga: | oh my god. PiP. i forgot about that. i can do pip now! |
| [17:56:00] | allgood: | do you have different sources on each card? |
| [17:56:00] | laga: | YAY! |
| [17:56:00] | laga: | allgood: input sources? |
| [17:56:00] | laga: | yep. the pvr 250 does regular analog cable, and the second card does DVB. |
| [17:57:00] | laga: | dvb-c |
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| [17:57:00] | allgood: | yeah... on the bttv card I receive directv channels, tuned by serial port... so, i'm using 2 different video sources |
| [17:57:00] | allgood: | on dvb card, I receive dvb-s channels |
| [17:57:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [17:57:00] | laga: | no firewire for you? |
| [17:57:00] | allgood: | i'm in brazil... |
| [17:57:00] | laga: | oh, ok |
| [17:57:00] | allgood: | I think that my directv receiver didn't have firewire |
| [17:58:00] | allgood: | it was a pain to find the serial protocol... :-D but it worked |
| [17:58:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [17:58:00] | allgood: | it looks like that frontend aren't trying to change the channel |
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| [18:02:00] | allgood: | when I choose the channel from second card, live tv acts like when i type an inexistent channel |
| [18:02:00] | laga: | you gotta change the card with "y" |
| [18:02:00] | allgood: | will try |
| [18:04:00] | allgood: | it worked... woohooo |
| [18:04:00] | allgood: | hehe |
| [18:04:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [18:05:00] | allgood: | no audio... I think that mythtv new intelligent demuxer didn't found the correct audio PID |
| [18:05:00] | ** laga is still fiddling ** | |
| [18:05:00] | laga: | allgood: hit + |
| [18:05:00] | allgood: | what does + |
| [18:05:00] | allgood: | ? |
| [18:07:00] | laga: | changes the audio stream |
| [18:07:00] | allgood: | it worked |
| [18:08:00] | allgood: | well.. need to map more two keys on my remote |
| [18:08:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [18:08:00] | allgood: | do not know if there is spare keys on it |
| [18:08:00] | allgood: | the lirc mappings are 'y' and '+' ? or there is a name for them? |
| [18:08:00] | laga: | check keys.txt, the last section |
| [18:09:00] | allgood: | another question... how do I specify the audio stream when schedduling a record? |
| [18:09:00] | allgood: | on livetv I can hit the '+'... but when schedulling? |
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| [18:09:00] | laga: | i dont know. i guess it records all streams. |
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| [18:11:00] | allgood: | ahh... must be... then I 'll need to check only when transcoding to divx... :-D |
| [18:11:00] | allgood: | my keys.txt din't mention the lirc mapping for y and + |
| [18:12:00] | laga: | yeah, you get examples there |
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| [18:12:00] | laga: | i guess its just "y" and "+" |
| [18:12:00] | allgood: | maybe + is 'plus' |
| [18:12:00] | allgood: | well... this problem is very simple near my last one |
| [18:12:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [18:13:00] | allgood: | i tried to look at a lot of documents... never find about the 'y' key |
| [18:13:00] | allgood: | do you knwo why the swap didn't worked on PiP for me? |
| [18:13:00] | laga: | nope |
| [18:14:00] | allgood: | just found it |
| [18:14:00] | allgood: | it swap the channels on cards... as my cards have different video sources... it doesn't works! |
| [18:15:00] | allgood: | inteligently swapping capture cards based on the channel info would be a great feature |
| [18:15:00] | allgood: | I was expecting this... |
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| [18:22:00] | allgood: | laga: thx for your help... |
| [18:22:00] | allgood: | laga: gotta go now... best regards |
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| [18:28:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | hi – ive just coped cvs of mythtv over to my gf's box, and i did make distclean ; ./configure ---loadsofstuff ; qmake mythtv.pro ; make |
| [18:28:00] | laga: | hehe. |
| [18:28:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | and make failed with make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'. Stop. |
| [18:28:00] | laga: | qtmake.conf, right? |
| [18:28:00] | laga: | yeah, qmake.conf |
| [18:28:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | yep |
| [18:28:00] | laga: | happened to me, too, yesterday. |
| [18:28:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | bugger – did you fix it? |
| [18:28:00] | laga: | didnt know to fix it...tried a make distclean? |
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| [18:31:00] | kormoc: | http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type . . . lyEnoughNews |
| [18:32:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | yep, tried make distclean |
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| [18:32:00] | laga: | jemarcks: nice |
| [18:32:00] | laga: | Super_Cat_Frog: sorry, cant help you :/ |
| [18:34:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | s'ok |
| [18:36:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | laga – gentoo? |
| [18:36:00] | laga: | Super_Cat_Frog: copied from a debian box to a FC3 box |
| [18:36:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | o rite |
| [18:37:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | mines debian > gentoo |
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| [18:38:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | should yesterdays protocol be compatible with today protocol? |
| [18:39:00] | laga: | try it ;) |
| [18:39:00] | defaultro: | hi laga |
| [18:39:00] | defaultro: | the hdtv nuvexport finished |
| [18:39:00] | laga: | defaultro: nice |
| [18:39:00] | defaultro: | the quality isn't as good as the original :( |
| [18:39:00] | laga: | defaultro: pretty fast. |
| [18:39:00] | laga: | defaultro: did you us the default settings? |
| [18:39:00] | defaultro: | yep |
| [18:40:00] | laga: | defaultro: well. HDTV is supposed to be better quality than DVD ;) |
| [18:40:00] | defaultro: | yep |
| [18:40:00] | laga: | what happens in mythtv, stays in mythtv...i guess there arent any hdtv-compatible dvd players yet |
| [18:40:00] | defaultro: | i think, there is really no way of keeping the quality good |
| [18:40:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [18:40:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [18:41:00] | laga: | well. you could do mpeg2 -> xvid. |
| [18:41:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [18:41:00] | laga: | just adjust the rsolution and bitrate to your needs. |
| [18:41:00] | defaultro: | or wait for toshiba's 45g triple layer hd dvd |
| [18:41:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [18:41:00] | laga: | you've got too much money ;) |
| [18:41:00] | defaultro: | :D |
| [18:41:00] | laga: | i guess it's about time to have a beer. |
| [18:41:00] | defaultro: | :) |
| [18:44:00] | defaultro: | what width should we enter if I want 16:9 ratio? |
| [18:45:00] | kormoc: | depends on the height... |
| [18:45:00] | laga: | kormoc: lol ;) |
| [18:45:00] | defaultro: | it's a 1280x720 |
| [18:45:00] | defaultro: | should i just use that |
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| [18:46:00] | kormoc: | defaultro, ya, that's a 16:9 |
| [18:46:00] | defaultro: | ok |
| [18:48:00] | laga: | life is good to me today< |
| [18:48:00] | laga: | PiP works |
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| [19:00:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | laga – i checked out the sources again from my wench's box and its compiling fine |
| [19:01:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | hopefully this'l get rid of that jittery bug (when the osd is on, its jittery) |
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| [19:01:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | it was working great for me when i tried it yesterday with the kernel deinterlacer without XvMC though |
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| [19:02:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | laga – PiP – cool, i didn't know myth did that (presuming you mean Picture in Picture) |
| [19:02:00] | laga: | Super_Cat_Frog picture in picture, yes. |
| [19:03:00] | laga: | m -> PiP |
| [19:03:00] | laga: | in livetv |
| [19:03:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | "groovy" |
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| [19:03:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [19:03:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | a second (and third, hee hee) dvb card is on my "if i had a job, i'd buy" list, quite high up too |
| [19:03:00] | laga: | hehehe |
| [19:03:00] | laga: | i know that list way too well |
| [19:03:00] | ChanServ sets mode +v j-rod | |
| [19:04:00] | Super_Cat_Frog: | problem is, since im a lazy student bum, who doesn't really attend, i have plenty of time to accidently come across thnigs that i can add to the list |
| [19:06:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [19:06:00] | laga: | <- 8 hours of school, 8 hours of geeking, 8 hours of sleep ;) |
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| [19:24:00] | xris: | Flimzy: your system would actually be pretty usable if you got a hardware encoder card. |
| [19:24:00] | Flimzy: | I'll _mostly_ be using my system for video playback |
| [19:24:00] | xris: | svn up |
| [19:24:00] | xris: | oops |
| [19:25:00] | Flimzy: | Playback I currently do on my desktop computer... |
| [19:25:00] | ** xris had too much espresso.. typing without looking way too often. ** | |
| [19:25:00] | xris: | Flimzy: it's encoding that's the issue, though. |
| [19:25:00] | Flimzy: | but would like to do it to my TV, with a TV-out card I intend to put into a MythTV box |
| [19:25:00] | laga: | too much coffee is a bad and a good thing at the same time |
| [19:25:00] | Flimzy: | So if I'm not doing much encoding (or none), a K6–3/450 would be fine? |
| [19:25:00] | Flimzy: | I might just put my TV card in my 2Ghz desktop, and do any encoding on there |
| [19:26:00] | Flimzy: | and not even bother with all that in the K6–3 |
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| [19:28:00] | xris: | laga: it's good espresso, though. |
| [19:29:00] | laga: | heh |
| [19:29:00] | xris: | had my usual shot, and then discovered that the whip cream thingie had chocolate milk in it instead of cream, so I had to try that with another shot. |
| [19:29:00] | xris: | Flimzy: that'd work. |
| [19:31:00] | xris: | though you'll find that the hardware encoder cards also result in much better quality recordings. |
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| [19:49:00] | laga: | www.mythtv.org is experiencing problems, i guess. |
| [19:49:00] | laga: | murphy's law. i just wanted to get the plugins from cvs ;) |
| [19:51:00] | KillerBunny: | is the site down ? |
| [19:51:00] | laga: | obviously |
| [19:52:00] | KillerBunny: | It might have been my computer... |
| [19:52:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [19:52:00] | KillerBunny: | you never know. |
| [19:52:00] | laga: | and somestimes, you dont want to know |
| [19:53:00] | KillerBunny: | So true. |
| [19:54:00] | laga: | but i do want to know why my remote doesnt work anymore after the reboot. |
| [19:54:00] | laga: | brb |
| [19:54:00] | Esotericisms: | hey my "watch tv" is stuck on one channel |
| [19:54:00] | KillerBunny: | Anything new in the .18 version becides bugfixes and improvements of the tvin ? |
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| [19:55:00] | KillerBunny: | Cause i dont have a card, and i want to know if i should spend time on the upgrading. |
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| [19:56:00] | s34n: | has anybody had problem with a Hauppauge PVR250 locking up after a few minutes? |
| [19:57:00] | Esotericisms: | hey I am using knoppmyth, but my output to my monitor is like 1/3 the size of the monitor ... can anyone help? |
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| [19:59:00] | KillerBunny: | Maybe the monitor doesnt like the resolution ? |
| [19:59:00] | KillerBunny: | Tryed to change that |
| [19:59:00] | KillerBunny: | ? |
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| [20:00:00] | Esotericisms: | I have tried setting it at 640/480 ... it always displays the same |
| [20:01:00] | Esotericisms: | I have looked up my settings on monitorworld.com for my monitor and I have set it up in dpkg-reconfigure ... |
| [20:11:00] | xris: | Beirdo: you ever try nuvexport's xvid export on a file that's been run through mpeg2cut? I have one that I've encoded, and the sound keeps coming out at chipmunk pace. |
| [20:12:00] | laga: | i wonder what happens if you use a recording of the chipmunks to do that. |
| [20:13:00] | xris: | lol |
| [20:14:00] | laga: | i had this recording where they were the "metalmunks". fun ;) |
| [20:17:00] | xris: | oohhh.. too much caffeine... I am so wired. |
| [20:17:00] | laga: | heh. |
| [20:18:00] | laga: | i only had three coffees today, but the last one really kicked in. 112.5mg caffeine per serving |
| [20:20:00] | xris: | I don't usually drink coffee, so it seems to hit me pretty hard. |
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| [20:22:00] | laga: | heh. |
| [20:22:00] | laga: | i usually have only one cup/day, but i didnt get much sleep this week. mythtv kept me up ;) |
| [20:23:00] | xris: | heh |
| [20:23:00] | laga: | gotta get used to 5hours of sleep/night again ;) |
| [20:23:00] | xris: | I've been eating more dark chocolate than usual (thank my wife the pastry chef for that), and so have been developing a taste for bitter things with complex flavor (which good espresso has) |
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| [20:24:00] | laga: | heh |
| [20:24:00] | xris: | shot of espresso with a little bit of chocolate milk to sweeten it. |
| [20:24:00] | xris: | quite good. |
| [20:24:00] | laga: | when i get the chance, i usually get a coffee at our local coffee dealer. real good stuff. |
| [20:25:00] | xris: | the owners here are coffee snobs.. we have a fully-automated ($1000+) espresso machine, and good beans. |
| [20:25:00] | laga: | when i'm at home and need some "wake the fuck up", i just get some instant cappucino. the taste isn't worth talking about, but this stuff can get really strong ;) |
| [20:25:00] | laga: | nice |
| [20:25:00] | laga: | sad that those machines are so darn expensive. |
| [20:26:00] | xris: | I think it's a $1500 machine that they got for $900 (floor model)... but consider that getting good coffee at starbucks costs $3–4/cup, and we go through probably 50 cups/day here |
| [20:26:00] | laga: | nice |
| [20:27:00] | laga: | i'd love to have good coffe at school, but we only get this stupid instant stuff. well, it's only like 40 cent per cup. unfortunately, they're going to take the machine away...that'll probably the first day a t lof people will bring guns to school... ;) |
| [20:28:00] | xris: | heh. you and your nearly-free school... |
| [20:28:00] | Esotericisms: | anyone have a set of good debian install instructions for mythtv? |
| [20:29:00] | xris: | Esotericisms: not that I know of (but I wouldn't be a good one to ask). |
| [20:29:00] | laga: | xris: heh ;) |
| [20:29:00] | xris: | most of the devs use ubuntu (and debian before that), but I think they all compile from source, anyway. |
| [20:30:00] | Esotericisms: | xris, what are you running? |
| [20:31:00] | xris: | fedora |
| [20:31:00] | Esotericisms: | what type of capture card |
| [20:31:00] | xris: | I tried ubuntu during my rebuild, but it was too different and I didn't have time to deal with the changes and switched back to fedora. |
| [20:31:00] | xris: | pvr-150 and air2pc |
| [20:32:00] | Esotericisms: | alright |
| [20:32:00] | Esotericisms: | hey you have a link to where the fedora isos are at? |
| [20:33:00] | laga: | xris: BTw, i got the hacked set top box finally to work with mythtv :) |
| [20:33:00] | Esotericisms: | what all do you have to change with the settings to schedule a channel? |
| [20:34:00] | Esotericisms: | can you just select "this show only" and save? |
| [20:34:00] | xris: | laga: cool |
| [20:34:00] | Machtyn: | ok, quick question for anyone to answer: (I'm relatively new to Linux, and trying my first MythTv install) |
| [20:34:00] | laga: | xris: my dad wants one, too, now. with some rewiring, i could use his paytv subscription. |
| [20:34:00] | ** laga is so cheap ** | |
| [20:34:00] | Machtyn: | I'm trying to decide between KnoppMyth and Gentoo, which would you all prefer? |
| [20:35:00] | laga: | Machtyn: new to linux? -> knoppmyth. or fedora. |
| [20:35:00] | Esotericisms: | yeah |
| [20:36:00] | Machtyn: | oh, one itty bitty caveat... I plan on extending the pc as an e-mail server (after I get the MythTv working proper) |
| [20:37:00] | Machtyn: | oh, and why Fedora over gentoo? |
| [20:37:00] | Esotericisms: | hey xris, to install fedora according to the howto on "fedora myth(tv)ology" do I really need all three .iso's |
| [20:39:00] | Esotericisms: | ... |
| [20:45:00] | Cromz: | beirdo you here? |
| [20:47:00] | Cromz: | xris here ya go ;) need to find a good home for this ahhah http://www.cromz.com/google_bart.gif I think.. |
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| [20:47:00] | laga: | hehe |
| [20:50:00] | Cromz: | so the other day, myth quit recording on me. cause my system became unstable. but I think it was cause I was playing city of heroes alot ;) heheheh |
| [20:51:00] | Cromz: | some day when I get settled in a differant house.. I will split everything to differant systems. |
| [20:52:00] | Esotericisms: | look: http://www.compuplus.com/insidepageNoLinks.ph . . . d=1003365887 |
| [20:56:00] | GeckoFiend: | Esotericisms and? |
| [20:56:00] | laga: | Cromz: heh. |
| [20:57:00] | Esotericisms: | good card? |
| [20:57:00] | laga: | Cromz: my lirc stopped working, but i dont care now...before lirc stopped working, my whole system/database got fucked, but someone helped me to restore it...so i rather have a few beers now instead of worrying about a remote ;) |
| [20:57:00] | Cromz: | lol |
| [20:57:00] | GeckoFiend: | Esotericisms support is spotty at best afaik |
| [20:58:00] | Esotericisms: | ? |
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| [21:03:00] | D4vid: | Hello everybody, I come to see you for a problem that I can't resolve i've compiled mythtv whisout problem, i've installed it, but when I launch mythtv-setup it say me "error while loading shared libraries: libmythavformat-0.18.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" |
| [21:03:00] | D4vid: | But the files are well in my /usr/local/lib directory |
| [21:03:00] | Beirdo: | sigh |
| [21:03:00] | Beirdo: | edit /etc/ld.so.conf |
| [21:03:00] | Beirdo: | add /usr/local/lib |
| [21:03:00] | Beirdo: | then do ldconfig |
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| [21:06:00] | nilaruz: | Table 'mythconverg.videosource' doesn't exist |
| [21:06:00] | nilaruz: | Anyone know how to fix that? |
| [21:07:00] | D4vid: | pfff it was so stupid, verry sorry and thanks Beirdo |
| [21:07:00] | D4vid: | it works fine |
| [21:07:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [21:08:00] | nilaruz: | database broke after upgrade.. tried purging everything and reinstalling.. still doesnt work :\ |
| [21:09:00] | kormoc: | kill and recreate the entire db? |
| [21:09:00] | nilaruz: | tried that like 10x |
| [21:09:00] | nilaruz: | compiled from deb-src |
| [21:11:00] | nilaruz: | its always empty for some reason |
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| [21:22:00] | nilaruz: | argh, can't find anything on google about this even |
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| [21:31:00] | TB2: | Hello, I'm trying to find some form of hack of toggle flag to turn off MythVideo's videomanager. I'm not a fan of how it sets up all the videos and would rather keep them in their original directory structure formatting (moved from Freevo to Myth). Would anyone have any ideas if this is available? |
| [21:31:00] | laga: | iirc, you can change the mode using "m" |
| [21:32:00] | TB2: | laga: *nod* I've tried to do that but it still ties in with the video manager data and not a standard file structure. I'm removing a few plugins to clean up the main menu and I'll try again though. |
| [21:33:00] | TB2: | basically I've got movies in one folder and downloaded TV shows in another. I'd like to keep that data seperate instead of them all bunching up. |
| [21:33:00] | ** D4vid is :'( grrrr i've forgotten the dvb on compilation !! :( >>>play again ** | |
| [21:36:00] | sc00p: | TB2: have you tried setting the Default View to Listings in setup? This may be what you want. |
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| [21:40:00] | TB2: | sc00p: I'll give it a whirl. I just finished rebooting the system. |
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| [21:42:00] | TB2: | The mailing lists seems to go into some detail over this issue. Seems from what I've read that it's not *that* big of an issue worth looking into. |
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| [21:53:00] | figital: | anyone around? |
| [21:53:00] | figital: | i'm trying to get mythtvfrontend running under xbmc on my xbox. I've got the python stuff running...sortof |
| [21:54:00] | figital: | The "Test connection" stuff fails with "error 15". I can, hwoever, see the program guide and the backend status stuff, so the xbox is definately talking to the backend. I cannot however, view shows. I get the same error |
| [21:54:00] | figital: | i guess I should first ask if it is ok to ask a mythtv-xbox specific question? |
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| [22:01:00] | figital: | hmmm |
| [22:01:00] | D4vid: | just one question for dvb support can I recompile over the first compilation (without dvb) or I must restart to 0 ? |
| [22:10:00] | Beirdo: | home time |
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| [22:20:00] | AndyCap: | Hmm, anyone have a patch for saa7134 driver to force the audiocarrier to a certain frequency? |
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| [22:27:00] | TehUni: | anyone running mythtv using firewire input from a motorola box? i'm thinking about using this setup and i wanted to get some opinions |
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| [22:30:00] | Shibz: | does anyone know how I would get knoppmyth to load lircd when booting up? |
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| [22:36:00] | nilaruz: | Hrm, for some reason I can't start mythbackend as root but it works fine as user |
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| [22:37:00] | Shibz: | anyone know how to set lircd to load on botting knoppmyth? |
| [22:37:00] | Shibz: | booting* |
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| [22:37:00] | D4vid: | nilaruz, per haps a protection, because i've tried to use the DB on root and it won't connect, and with a normal user it access to db |
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| [22:37:00] | D4vid: | it may be the same for execution |
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| [22:38:00] | m4lu6: | huzzah. |
| [22:38:00] | nilaruz: | yeah, but it should hand everything over to the mythtv user in the init.d script, and running that doesnt even work |
| [22:39:00] | TehUni: | so no one uses firewire to capture? :( |
| [22:39:00] | Machtyn: | where's a good place to get the KnoppMyth R5A15 iso in the Eastern US? (or Western if none on the East) |
| [22:40:00] | Shibz: | http://69.93.113.38/knoppmyth/ I think i used that one |
| [22:41:00] | Shibz: | anyone know how to set something to load when knoppmyth is booting up? |
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| [22:42:00] | Machtyn: | thx |
| [22:42:00] | Machtyn: | nice fast connection, goody |
| [22:42:00] | maddhaggis: | hello folks |
| [22:42:00] | TehUni: | so is knoppmyth the recommended build to install on, then? |
| [22:42:00] | D4vid: | Shibz, knoppmyth is a live cd no ? |
| [22:43:00] | Shibz: | its a live cd that also has an option to install on hard drive |
| [22:44:00] | Machtyn: | I'm giving Gentoo, KnoppMyth, and FC3 a try. not likely in that order, though. I may start with FC3 |
| [22:44:00] | maddhaggis: | I'm still having the same issue. I am using the DVB drivers for the HD3000. I can get all of my local HD and Digital channels to play fine but for some reason 15_2, 15_3, and 15_4 (PBS Digitals) all have very high pitched Chirping sound which repeats constantly; picture is fine though. any thoughts? |
| [22:44:00] | D4vid: | Shibz, so on hard drive i think you will find in knoppix doc... |
| [22:44:00] | TehUni: | Machtyn: what do most people use? |
| [22:45:00] | Machtyn: | That I don't know. I went here: |
| [22:45:00] | Machtyn: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . s%20;#116265 |
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| [22:45:00] | Machtyn: | to find out, then I came to this chat and asked the same thing. |
| [22:46:00] | ** D4vid used mandrake, gentoo, slackware, and now uses ubuntu ** | |
| [22:46:00] | Machtyn: | I'm still in the early learning stages of Linux, I'm going to make my pvr my mail server as well |
| [22:47:00] | Shibz: | argh I can't get this to start lircd up as service |
| [22:47:00] | TehUni: | thanks |
| [22:47:00] | TehUni: | i'm familiar with mandrake (mandriva LE). would that be a good start? |
| [22:48:00] | Shibz: | I would use either knoppmyth or FC3 |
| [22:48:00] | Shibz: | thats what most people seem to use |
| [22:48:00] | iggy: | use FC3 and jarod's guide |
| [22:48:00] | TehUni: | Shibz: i thought knoppix was a bootcd? |
| [22:48:00] | iggy: | under no circumstances use Gentoo |
| [22:49:00] | Machtyn: | I haven't had a lot of success with Mandrake. And got snears from the linux "experts" I went to for help. (The same type of snears you might flash towards an AOL user... okay, maybe not the same) |
| [22:49:00] | iggy: | mandrake does kernels weird, that's my main complaint |
| [22:49:00] | ** TehUni snears at just the thought.... ** | |
| [22:49:00] | Machtyn: | lol |
| [22:49:00] | TehUni: | so |
| [22:50:00] | TehUni: | btw knoppmyth and fc3.. you guys vote |
| [22:50:00] | Machtyn: | I liked the SUSe bootcd. I was able to troubleshoot my eMachines laptop with it. |
| [22:50:00] | j-rod: | TehUni: use whatever you're most comfortable with |
| [22:50:00] | Machtyn: | but, I haven't used it with mythtv |
| [22:50:00] | TehUni: | j-rod: that's the thing. i'm not comfortable with either. i'm trying to find a place to start. |
| [22:50:00] | Machtyn: | or, heard much of its use with it |
| [22:51:00] | j-rod: | and that comes from the guy who wrote Jarod's guide |
| [22:51:00] | j-rod: | aha |
| [22:51:00] | j-rod: | then just take your pick :) |
| [22:51:00] | TehUni: | j-rod: i guess you'd vote for fc3 then? hehe |
| [22:51:00] | Shibz: | anyone know how I can get lircd to start automatically when I boot knoppmyth? |
| [22:51:00] | j-rod: | not necessarily |
| [22:51:00] | ** iggy swings a giant clue bat with "FC3+Jarod's Guide" stenciled in it ** | |
| [22:51:00] | TehUni: | lol |
| [22:52:00] | Machtyn: | 9 mins and counting for the FC3 dvd install to be ready |
| [22:52:00] | j-rod: | soon that'll need to be FC4... :) |
| [22:52:00] | TehUni: | anyone ever capture using a motorola box and firewire? i've read that mythtv can do it, but info is sparse. |
| [22:52:00] | j-rod: | I haven't actually tried knoppmyth myself, but for a basic setup, it seems it should be less work |
| [22:52:00] | TehUni: | (Motorola DCT-6200) |
| [22:53:00] | j-rod: | if you've got more esoteric hardware, could be a tossup |
| [22:53:00] | TehUni: | j-rod: that'd save me the money of buying a vid-capture card, no? |
| [22:53:00] | j-rod: | and I have a DCT-6200, capturing off it via firewire |
| [22:53:00] | Shibz: | argh lirc is in the rc5.d folder but it doesn't load on startup |
| [22:53:00] | j-rod: | which I cover in my doc. :) |
| [22:53:00] | maddhaggis: | My mythtvsetup changes don't stay after I do a Cold Boot? I have to delete card settings and start over. |
| [22:53:00] | j-rod: | also just helped two friends set up their own dct-6200s |
| [22:53:00] | TehUni: | j-rod: works pretty well? for a first-timer? |
| [22:54:00] | j-rod: | works very well |
| [22:54:00] | TehUni: | awesome. no vid-capture needed, right? |
| [22:54:00] | j-rod: | it can be a bit finicky if either 1) the backend machine restarts or 2) your cable provider pushed down a new firmware that restarts the cable box |
| [22:54:00] | j-rod: | but generally, rock-solid, and all you need is a firewire port |
| [22:55:00] | TehUni: | k |
| [22:55:00] | TehUni: | i'm looking at only using 1 box... |
| [22:55:00] | TehUni: | is that out of the question? |
| [22:55:00] | TehUni: | (sorry for all the newb questions. i've done my best to read up, but i can't find the answers to some of these questions) |
| [22:56:00] | dhofstra: | no, only problem with one box is that when you keep adding drives and fans and such, the noise can be prohibitive |
| [22:56:00] | j-rod: | and hd needs lotsa space |
| [22:56:00] | TehUni: | oh, that's not a prob. |
| [22:56:00] | Beirdo: | Starbucks rules |
| [22:56:00] | j-rod: | and if you don't have enough cpu, when commercial flagging, playback could get choppy |
| [22:57:00] | j-rod: | so for an all-in-one, you want a pretty beefy proc |
| [22:57:00] | TehUni: | k |
| [22:57:00] | TehUni: | i'm just building a dinky 1ghz box right now, just to see if i like it |
| [22:57:00] | Beirdo: | the new Key Lime White Chocolate cookies.... Mmmmmm |
| [22:57:00] | TehUni: | if so, i'll go bigtime. |
| [22:57:00] | dhofstra: | you'll like it |
| [22:58:00] | TehUni: | hehe |
| [22:58:00] | TehUni: | so what do you guys recommend for hi-def (cable) capture? |
| [22:58:00] | TehUni: | would the firewire work ok for that too? |
| [22:58:00] | j-rod: | you'll like it, and you won't be able to test the firewire stuff much on that 1ghz box |
| [22:58:00] | j-rod: | not enough power for playback |
| [22:59:00] | j-rod: | My primary capture device is now my 6200 |
| [22:59:00] | TehUni: | really? HD works ok? |
| [22:59:00] | j-rod: | works very well |
| [22:59:00] | dhofstra: | the 1ghz wont play High Def in its wet dreams; you will need 2.5 or greater for that |
| [22:59:00] | TehUni: | lol i know |
| [22:59:00] | j-rod: | my secondary capture device is an HD capture card |
| [22:59:00] | TehUni: | i was just gonna mess around with this for a week or so |
| [22:59:00] | Machtyn: | Beirdo: Key Lime White...: I had some Key Lime Almond Joys a month ago (they're not out, yet. I have a bro.-in-law who works for Hersheys) They were good! |
| [22:59:00] | j-rod: | dhofstra, not necessarily... :) |
| [22:59:00] | TehUni: | it's a box i've got just laying around |
| [23:00:00] | Beirdo: | you second car is also a Porsche, j-rod? |
| [23:00:00] | dhofstra: | j-rod; what , xvmc? |
| [23:00:00] | iggy: | j-rod: what about tertiary, quarternary, etc, etc. |
| [23:00:00] | TehUni: | depending on how much i like it, i'll spend what i have to. |
| [23:00:00] | j-rod: | tertiary is anothe HD card. :) |
| [23:00:00] | j-rod: | quarternary and on are analog hardware mpeg2 encoders |
| [23:00:00] | iggy: | hah |
| [23:01:00] | j-rod: | my first car is a silver Volvo S40, the second is a black Toyota Tacoma quad cab, third is my crappy old Honda Civic |
| [23:01:00] | TehUni: | heh |
| [23:01:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [23:01:00] | TehUni: | nice |
| [23:01:00] | Beirdo: | how old of a Civic? |
| [23:01:00] | j-rod: | '92 |
| [23:01:00] | Beirdo: | that's not too bad |
| [23:01:00] | j-rod: | it sucks for someone 6'3" |
| [23:01:00] | TehUni: | j-rod: will this 1ghz machine be decent enough to test on till i get my feet wet? or should i not even bother? |
| [23:01:00] | Beirdo: | in my mind, a crappy old Civic is a 73 :) |
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| [23:02:00] | j-rod: | you can do some testing on a 1ghz box |
| [23:02:00] | j-rod: | lol, yeah, a '73 is rather crappy and old |
| [23:02:00] | Beirdo: | they were fun though |
| [23:02:00] | TehUni: | ok cool |
| [23:02:00] | j-rod: | the Civic is crappy and old compared to my Volvo though |
| [23:02:00] | Beirdo: | for sure |
| [23:03:00] | TehUni: | thanks for all the help, i really appreciate it |
| [23:03:00] | TehUni: | i'll be back when i'm more well-versed and hopefully, with a dinky working system. |
| [23:03:00] | ** j-rod loves the leather, heated seats, climate control, sunroof, alpine stereo system, etc., etc., etc... ** | |
| [23:03:00] | j-rod: | bbiab |
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| [23:04:00] | doubleoh: | I ran into this bug with "/usr/lib/mythtv/plugins/libmythgallery.so: undefined symbol: _ZN18ConfigurationGroup4loadEP12QSqlDatabase" One similar for games also. |
| [23:04:00] | Beirdo: | j-rod: the S40 is a decent vehicle :) |
| [23:04:00] | Machtyn: | my dad went through 2 engines on a volvo. he drives hard, and this was 15 years ago, heh |
| [23:04:00] | GeckoFiend: | doubleoh mast distclean && make on those |
| [23:04:00] | GeckoFiend: | err make distclean even |
| [23:04:00] | doubleoh: | GeckoFiend.. I am using debian. |
| [23:04:00] | Beirdo: | Machtyn: My dad's had 3 different Volvos with 1M miles on the original engines |
| [23:05:00] | doubleoh: | I guess I will have to build it. |
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| [23:08:00] | Shibz: | is there anything I need to do before I connect my computer to a TV via svideo? |
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| [23:10:00] | ** slePP gives beirdo a beer ** | |
| [23:10:00] | Beirdo: | why thank you |
| [23:10:00] | laga: | beer! |
| [23:10:00] | ** slePP gives laga a beer in exchange for the rest of de.po :> ** | |
| [23:11:00] | laga: | slePP: hehe. i translated a few strings, but i was really busy with mythtv ;) |
| [23:11:00] | j-rod: | my family is on its 6th Volvo |
| [23:11:00] | slePP: | :> |
| [23:11:00] | Beirdo: | Volvo++ |
| [23:11:00] | Beirdo: | too bad they are crappy Ford products now :( |
| [23:11:00] | j-rod: | dad had an old 240 turbo, then a 740 turbo, and now a V70 T5 |
| [23:12:00] | ** slePP wants to be a crappy ford product ** | |
| [23:12:00] | j-rod: | mom had a 2001 S60 T5, now has a 2005 S60 T5 |
| [23:12:00] | Beirdo: | I grew up with 144 and 142s |
| [23:12:00] | j-rod: | my S40 is a 2001 |
| [23:12:00] | Beirdo: | and a P1800E |
| [23:12:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [23:12:00] | j-rod: | my next vehicle might have to be an S60 R though |
| [23:12:00] | j-rod: | silver |
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| [23:13:00] | laga: | my next vehilce (and first ;)) vehilce is going to be an peugeot 206. it's a french car, though. |
| [23:13:00] | j-rod: | Audi RS-6 is high on my list, as are a few benzitos, a jag and a bmw... |
| [23:13:00] | ** j-rod loves nice cars ** | |
| [23:13:00] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [23:13:00] | ** j-rod loves nice FAST cars ** | |
| [23:14:00] | slePP: | since when was 'The Old Apartment' by bare naked ladies 23 minutes long. |
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| [23:14:00] | ** slePP kicks xmms ** | |
| [23:14:00] | ** laga loves cars that he can drive without stalling them ;) ** | |
| [23:14:00] | j-rod: | extended remix! |
| [23:14:00] | j-rod: | 6-speed manny S60 R... mmm... |
| [23:14:00] | slePP: | j-rod: highly extended |
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| [23:15:00] | j-rod: | super extended discoteq club remix |
| [23:15:00] | j-rod: | okay, back to the server room for a bit... |
| [23:15:00] | slePP: | i have one of those of BNL |
| [23:15:00] | slePP: | it's sad |
| [23:15:00] | rw (marcelo@201009097178.user.veloxzone.com.br) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [23:16:00] | Beirdo: | BNL is good stuff |
| [23:16:00] | Super_Cat_Frog (~bob@80-192-168-123.cable.ubr02.blac.blueyonder.co.uk) Quit ("leaving") | |
| [23:18:00] | slePP: | so is john williams |
| [23:19:00] | ** slePP listens to some schindler's list themes ** | |
| [23:20:00] | ** xris just got a mac mini ** | |
| [23:20:00] | ** slePP steals it by hiding it inside his hat ** | |
| [23:20:00] | ** slePP runs away ** | |
| [23:21:00] | Beirdo: | xris: at work, I assume? |
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| [23:21:00] | xris: | yes |
| [23:21:00] | xris: | didn't come with tiger. |
| [23:21:00] | xris: | sucks. |
| [23:21:00] | xris: | (not that I can't just get a copy for $10, but it's a hassle) |
| [23:21:00] | laga: | xris: the update it's only like 18 euro, i hear. |
| [23:21:00] | Beirdo: | hehe, of course not :) |
| [23:21:00] | laga: | hehe ;) |
| [23:22:00] | xris: | laga: but it should have COME with the machine, since it was ordered after tiger was released. |
| [23:22:00] | laga: | xris: they probably had some old stuff in stock |
| [23:22:00] | Beirdo: | bitch bitch bitch :) |
| [23:23:00] | xris: | yes. |
| [23:23:00] | xris: | cite box, though |
| [23:24:00] | xris: | s/cite/cute/ |
| [23:24:00] | Beirdo: | Hmmm, what to do... |
| [23:24:00] | laga: | Beirdo: booze? |
| [23:24:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:24:00] | Beirdo: | I'm tempted |
| [23:24:00] | laga: | ;) |
| [23:24:00] | ** laga has to get up in 5 hours...yay ** | |
| [23:25:00] | Beirdo: | sucker |
| [23:25:00] | laga: | yep |
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| [23:38:00] | Lanz: | Hello everyone, where can I get .debs for myth tv? |
| [23:38:00] | kormoc: | last I knew, debian's debs of mythtv were really fed up |
| [23:39:00] | Lanz: | ? |
| [23:40:00] | Lanz: | I tried apt-get install mythtv with standard sarge sources. |
| [23:40:00] | Lanz: | Doesn't exist. |
| [23:40:00] | iggy: | http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/ |
| [23:41:00] | iggy: | it was the first hit on google ;) |
| [23:41:00] | Lanz: | Thanks iggy :D |
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| [23:45:00] | mchou: | wow, latest ivtv driver is really working well for pvr150. |
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| [23:45:00] | mchou: | all the prior niggling problems seem to have been fixed. |
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| [23:50:00] | mshields is now known as m1ke | |
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| [23:57:00] | Machtyn: | start |
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